Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-09-02

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Time Nick Message
00:00 Cprossu I'm damn good at missing him =/
00:01 Toastdude Hi Cprossu
00:08 Cprossu hey Toastdude
00:08 Toast_Eating Brb
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00:18 masterofmonks Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this javaacript?
00:18 masterofmonks three = "hello".substring(0,2)
00:18 lwq-home hmmm idk
00:19 angy I'd say, you can't use "hello".substring?
00:19 angy you have to use a temp var to store hello
00:20 masterofmonks So..
00:21 masterofmonks var three = "hello".substring(0,2)
00:21 masterofmonks ?
00:21 angy var str = hello;
00:21 angy three = str.sub...
00:21 masterofmonks http://www.codecademy.com/courses​/programming-intro/3#!/exercise/5
00:22 lwq-home .seen batsteve
00:22 BotSteve lwq-home: I last saw batsteve 18.53 hours ago at 2011-09-01 05:50:41 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:22:22 UTC
00:22 lwq-home damn... i need to get that updated file from him again
00:23 angy ho I got it
00:23 angy " vs '
00:23 masterofmonks vs?
00:23 angy three = 'hello'.substring(0,2);
00:23 angy you need to use single quote, not double auotes
00:24 angy that should work
00:25 masterofmonks Nope.
00:25 angy that *works* I just did the link you showed
00:25 angy > three = 'hello'.substring(0,3);
00:25 angy ==> hel
00:25 angy >
00:25 masterofmonks It works, but does not satisfy the problem.
00:25 angy it *is* wrong, but it works
00:26 masterofmonks Ok, I see what I was doing.
00:26 masterofmonks I was not using the third position.
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00:35 angy that can be a problem for sure
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00:45 wannabe1987 hello?
00:45 wannabe1987 lwq-home
00:45 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55
00:45 lwq-home WANNABE -tackles hugs-
00:45 wannabe1987 :)
00:46 lwq-home i did work today...
00:46 wannabe1987 good.  you were at school...
00:46 wannabe1987 .sandwich lwq-home
00:46 BotSteve here you go, lwq-home, I made you a ham and cheese on italian sandwich!
00:46 lwq-home that and i did mowing
00:46 wannabe1987 ooo
00:46 wannabe1987 sounds fun
00:46 wannabe1987 do you have school tomorrow?
00:46 angy which of them is actually work?
00:46 wannabe1987 um i think mowing is
00:46 lwq-home yes i have school tomorrow
00:46 wannabe1987 strange.  schools here don't :P
00:46 lwq-home yes...mowing complete hills
00:47 lwq-home i dont have school monday tho
00:47 wannabe1987 hot damn :P
00:47 wannabe1987 schools here have friday AND monday off....
00:47 wannabe1987 :D
00:47 lwq-home im jelous
00:47 wannabe1987 you get more learning in tho :P
00:48 lwq-home i hate learning
00:49 * lwq-home is going to bed ealy tonight
00:49 wannabe1987 like now?
00:49 wannabe1987 or how early...
00:49 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Sparky Projects on Donated Dot-Matrix Signs (Time / Temp) and arduino integration project.
00:50 lwq-home idk...around 11
00:50 lwq-home 11:30
00:50 wannabe1987 ah ok
00:50 wannabe1987 i might be home by then...
00:50 wannabe1987 idk drew's out by the fire and i'm sitting inside....drew said something about "guy talk" so i know better than to go out there:P
00:52 lwq-home lol
00:52 wannabe1987 its like girl talk - the opposite gender isn't allowed
00:53 lwq-home yep
00:53 wannabe1987 except his dad said his sister could come out :P  but there are mosquitos and i've been eaten by them all summer...NO MORE MOSQUITOS
00:54 lwq-home repelent?
00:55 wannabe1987 doesn't work, i'm too sweet
00:58 exor674 wannabe1987: yes you are!
00:58 wannabe1987 :)
00:58 lwq-home yes...the sweetest person ive ever meet
00:59 wannabe1987 you havent met me yet
01:04 tonsofpcs ! http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/01/apple-pu​ts-legacy-final-cut-pro-studio-back-on-sale/
01:14 * lwq-home loves wannabe as if she is a big sister
01:14 wannabe1987 thats cuz she is...?
01:16 lwq-home no your not.....
01:16 wannabe1987 :(
01:17 lwq-home your like a big sister i said.....
01:17 eadthem anyone ever tryed burning a DVD as a 510Min audio cd?
01:17 lwq-home no
01:18 wannabe1987 i know lee.  i am SOMEONE's big sister....aka i am a big sister
01:18 eadthem im thinking in theory   if the player can access all the tracks  it shuld do ok
01:18 lwq-home yep
01:21 wannabe1987 i have *counts* 4 official siblings
01:22 lwq-home 0.o
01:23 eadthem ya i think my burning software choked
01:23 eadthem it burned the disk in less than 1 second
01:24 lwq-home lol
01:25 angy how much unofficials ?
01:25 wannabe1987 10?
01:25 wannabe1987 i'd have to coung
01:25 angy that's a little lot!
01:25 * lwq-home should do his homeowrk
01:26 angy you ought to
01:26 wannabe1987 greg, corwin, ruth, lee, april, maggie,raul, carolina, and 2 more i can't think of :P
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01:39 masterofmonks And now Sykpe has pissed me off completely.
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01:41 wannabe1987 masterofmonks how?
01:41 masterofmonks Keeps popping up uninvited.
01:41 wannabe1987 ah
01:41 wannabe1987 uninstall?
01:41 wannabe1987 :P
01:41 masterofmonks And there is no way to turn it off.
01:42 masterofmonks The popping up bs.
01:42 wannabe1987 i wouldn't know.  i don't have it installed on either computer.....
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01:47 wannabe1987 hi steve
01:49 Bat-Mobile joined #thegeekgroup
01:49 Bat-Mobile howdy all!
01:49 wannabe1987 hi Bat-Mobile
01:49 Bat-Mobile anything interesting happen while I was gone?
01:49 wannabe1987 teels for batsteve
01:49 wannabe1987 tells*
01:50 Bat-Mobile ah
01:50 BatSteve tell
01:50 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
01:50 BotSteve At 01 Sep 09:03Z, Sgt_Lemming asked me to tell BatSteve he needs to implement a function ".video" which shows the latest video updates
01:50 BotSteve At 01 Sep 14:54Z, Seroster asked me to tell BatSteve you STILL haven't implemented the link to the forums in the "last hour posts". No oil for you tonight!
01:50 BotSteve At 01 Sep 17:39Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell BatSteve http://jalopnik.com/5836525/this-is-wha​t-its-like-to-be-shot-at-with-an-ak+47
01:50 Bat-Mobile good deal
01:50 wannabe1987 :)
01:51 wannabe1987 you ate yourself?
01:51 Toastdude Hi Bat-Mobile and wannabe1987
01:51 wannabe1987 hi
01:51 Toastdude No
01:51 Bat-Mobile hi toast!
01:51 wannabe1987 k good
01:52 wannabe1987 cuz thats cannabalism
01:52 Bat-Mobile *cuz thats recycling
01:52 wannabe1987 lol
01:52 Bat-Mobile fixed that for you
01:53 Toastdude I like the way you think BatSteve ;)
01:53 Toastdude Lol
01:53 egrsteve hello
01:53 tonsofpcs hi
01:54 Toastdude Hi
01:54 Bat-Mobile howdy egrsteve and tonsofpcs
01:54 wannabe1987 lol sue's friend lives in LA and eddie murphy pulled up next to her and asked the name of her the name of her dog and she said "oprah" and got a eddie murphy laugh :)
01:54 wannabe1987 hi tonsofpcs
01:54 wannabe1987 o Bat-Mobile i want to make a tgg channel....
01:54 Toastdude Oo, whats it called?
01:55 wannabe1987 #tgg_cooking
01:55 wannabe1987 what else...srsly
01:55 Toastdude Lol
01:55 wannabe1987 better than lees :P
01:55 Bat-Mobile go ahead wannabe
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01:57 Toastdude Hi Hackbat
01:57 * Hackbat is exausted
01:57 Hackbat heyo
01:57 * wannabe1987 has ops :)
01:57 Hackbat I just rearranged my entire bedroom
01:58 Hackbat and moved a desk to my workroom
01:58 wannabe1987 y
01:58 Hackbat I used to have my PC in here
01:58 Hackbat I'm not taking it back into here so i moved the desk
01:58 wannabe1987 ah
01:58 Hackbat that left a hole
01:59 Hackbat so I moved stuff till it looked nice
01:59 Hackbat I;ve not not had a desk in here since I was like 13
02:00 Hackbat I saddened abit cause my surround sound system had to come down :c
02:02 Cprossu hey egrsteve
02:02 Cprossu I finally am on at roughly the same time frame!
02:03 egrsteve for now
02:03 Cprossu sounds like one of our mickey moused cables gave up it's ghost the other day
02:03 Cprossu good excuse to make the right ones.
02:04 egrsteve ya
02:04 Cprossu (refering to all the orban cables lol)
02:04 egrsteve I have not been in scense monday
02:04 Cprossu you've been busy as hell from what I could tell
02:04 egrsteve school started this week
02:04 Cprossu taking some rough classes too
02:05 egrsteve rough enough
02:05 tonsofpcs mickey moused cables?
02:05 Cprossu yeah 1/4" to balanced
02:05 wannabe1987 squeak squeak
02:05 Cprossu (SHUDDER)
02:05 Cprossu don't ask.
02:05 tonsofpcs huh?
02:06 tonsofpcs 1/4" TRS is balanced...
02:06 Cprossu it's not trs.
02:06 Cprossu hence mickey moused.
02:06 Cprossu (another SHUDDER for the record)
02:06 tonsofpcs you did read page 1 and 2 of the wheatstone wiring doc, right?
02:06 Cprossu this is something which you don't know about.
02:06 * exor674 hugs wannabe1987!
02:07 Cprossu mackie to orban to Lexicon.
02:07 Toastdude Hi exor674
02:07 wannabe1987 hi dredre
02:07 Cprossu lexicon and mackie are balanced 1/4" TRS, orban is balanced 3 pin.
02:07 tonsofpcs ah, so you had a balanced out but you only had a TS conn.
02:07 Cprossu exactly.
02:07 tonsofpcs yea, I do that all the time... Trying to order some prefab TRS <> XLR cables
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02:07 wannabe1987 heat index tomorrow of over 100....
02:08 Cprossu we have enough parts to make 4 tonsofpcs
02:08 exor674 wannabe1987: hnrgh OW
02:08 wannabe1987 o.O
02:08 tonsofpcs I think that orban actually has transformered inputs though, so it shouldn't be a huge deal... well, other than that whole AM thing that goes on there....
02:08 Cprossu but I wanted to move away from using the motherboard's soundcard like it was fire.
02:08 Cprossu for obvious reasons.
02:08 wannabe1987 .
02:09 Cprossu and it was a good decision too!
02:09 Cprossu we only had 1 balanced 3 pin to TRS,
02:09 Cprossu and I wanted stereo
02:09 wannabe1987 breaktime?
02:09 Cprossu so did your bnc's make it egrsteve?
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02:10 egrsteve idk
02:10 wannabe1987 welcome back BotSteve
02:11 Toastdude Hello BotSteve
02:11 BotSteve Hello Toastdude
02:13 wannabe1987 "why do guys modeling shots always look like porn"?  LOL
02:14 Bat-Mobile You mean they're not?
02:14 Toastdude Lol
02:15 wannabe1987 i dunno.  no paenis, but there is lots of abs.
02:17 Cprossu egrsteve you still around?
02:21 injektion I love Frank Lloyd Wright
02:21 Cprossu there's a shit ton of his work here.
02:21 Cprossu his churches were damn weird too
02:24 wannabe1987 i'll be back!
02:25 CaptainNiobe|AFK morning all :)
02:25 Bat-Mobile hi captain
02:25 Toastdude CaptainNiobe: HI!!!
02:26 CaptainNiobe hey bat, toast :)
02:26 eadthem never ceces to amase me   as soon as i load down the CPU  everything speeds up and improves    blu-ray burning, music crackling,  flash smoothness.
02:26 injektion I love architecture especially his
02:26 eadthem via did some strange shit to this chipset    i will not miss it
02:27 Cprossu blu ray burning is overrated
02:28 eadthem i do it every 3 weeks
02:28 eadthem couple 25GB disks of amazon unbox videos
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02:29 lwq-home anyone know what 2 numbers come after this patter....1,4,9,16
02:29 eadthem it was verifying at 1-3x   as soon as i start load.exe  it jumps up to 3-7X
02:29 CaptainNiobe hey lee :) but idk sorry
02:29 exor674 lwq-home: do your own homework?
02:30 eadthem load.exe is just a while loop calling  sleep(0); over and over  thus letting everything else get priority but pulling all extra load itself
02:30 lwq-home i dont get this problem....ive been 30min on this one problem
02:30 eadthem fixes a lot of via chipset issues
02:30 eadthem on athlon boards
02:31 CaptainNiobe lee, if you check around you might be able tofind some homework help forums?
02:31 Cprossu o_O
02:31 Bat-Mobile lwq-home: http://oeis.org/search?q=1%2C4%2C9%2C​16&amp;language=english&amp;go=Search
02:31 Cprossu lwq-home and here I thought the way to fix via chipset issues (kt133-kt400) was updaing your 4in1 drivers
02:32 Cprossu *eadthem
02:32 eadthem ya  latist 4in1 dosent do shit for my motherboards
02:32 eadthem motherboard*
02:32 Cprossu granted they changed the name to hyperion
02:32 Cprossu I think
02:32 Cprossu at some point
02:32 eadthem yep
02:32 Cprossu what motherboard do you have?
02:32 Cprossu specifically.
02:34 eadthem MS-6590  KT400 VT8377 chipset   VT8235 south
02:34 Cprossu MSI
02:34 eadthem it has sevear IRQ issues witch is charatiristic of a KT400 266 300 ish chipset
02:34 Cprossu and are there any smaller green capacitors with yellow stripes and a X vent on your motherboard?
02:34 Cprossu yeah it is
02:34 Cprossu but instability is not.
02:34 eadthem naw  caps are perfect
02:34 Cprossu you sure?
02:34 eadthem instablity isnt a issue
02:35 Cprossu what pieces are you having issues with?
02:35 eadthem poor and intermittent irq delays are
02:35 Cprossu with specific pieces of hardware
02:35 eadthem soundblaster crackling when hdd access's
02:36 Cprossu onboard or audigy2?
02:36 eadthem audigy2zs
02:36 injektion I've always found that normal eadthem
02:36 Cprossu it's the soundcard.
02:36 Cprossu go look
02:36 Cprossu g-luxon caps.
02:36 eadthem witch has a long history with the via ktxxx chips
02:36 eadthem it worked fine for the first year  witch i found odd
02:36 Cprossu it has a long history of SUCKING ON ANY CHIPSET
02:36 Cprossu the drivers were a pile of shite
02:37 Cprossu and so  was the hardware
02:37 Cprossu the audigy was their last good soundcard
02:37 Cprossu the audigy 2 sucked ass.
02:37 Cprossu noisy as fuck.
02:37 Cprossu filter caps were the most sucktastic they could find too
02:38 Cprossu and there's a shit ton on that board.
02:38 * Cprossu rages @ the non-usb audigy2's
02:40 Hackbat Did you know, when the mac was in development they pu the system speaker right next to the harddrive, anytime the volume would swell the computer would crash!
02:40 eadthem it works fine in my older KT200 based athlon slotA board   workes fine in my dads 870 or 890 based board
02:40 Cprossu Hackbat wrong.
02:40 Hackbat oh?
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02:40 Cprossu the original mac did not have a hard drive.
02:40 Cprossu you are thinking of a very specific mac,.
02:40 Cprossu I think it was a notebook or an LC model.
02:40 eadthem its purely a IRQ issue because as soon as i use load.exe  windows stops handling irq's on request and starts polling hardware in advance
02:41 eadthem all audio cleans up and HDD access is faster
02:41 Hackbat there's a documentary on apple where they mention it
02:41 Cprossu yeah there is but it was not "The mac"
02:41 injektion Was it the Mac SE?
02:41 clony FUCK
02:42 Cprossu I want to say it was the non-sony powerbook
02:42 Cprossu but let me check
02:42 Hackbat it's the one where they fisrt introduce quicktime on.
02:42 clony .sandwich Cprossu
02:42 BotSteve here you go, Cprossu, I made you a bologna on white sandwich!
02:42 Cprossu YAY
02:42 Hackbat .pie hackbat
02:42 Cprossu .sandwich clony
02:42 BotSteve here you go, clony, I made you a black forest ham with american cheese on whole wheat sandwich!
02:42 Hackbat :c
02:42 Hackbat no pie?
02:42 Bat-Mobile clony: get to work on pie
02:42 Cprossu want to trade clony?
02:43 Hackbat Pie is like the inverse of cake
02:43 Bat-Mobile At least until I can generalize everything into one food module
02:43 Hackbat Cake bland with a shell of awesome
02:43 clony ok...can you send me an updated copy of the file or should i just use the screwed up copy i have when i made the sandwiches
02:43 Hackbat Pie is awesome with a shell of bland
02:45 Cprossu oooh
02:45 Cprossu I remembered I think what it was
02:45 clony batsteve^ read what i wrote
02:45 Cprossu Hackbat if I recall.
02:45 Bat-Mobile You can just download it again from here - https://github.com/Steve-V/​tgg-BotSteve/zipball/master
02:45 Bat-Mobile that is always kept up to date
02:45 Cprossu it was the original mac LC development
02:46 Cprossu they placed the speaker below the hdd
02:46 Cprossu as in the pizza box max
02:46 Cprossu *mac
02:46 Cprossu and it wasn't the magnetic field
02:46 Cprossu it was whenever the volume got high enough
02:46 Cprossu it would vibrate the hdd enough that the heads would bounce.
02:47 Cprossu they also did something similar with the powerbook G4
02:47 CaptainNiobe ssd would have fixed that... :P
02:47 Cprossu with it's subwoofer.
02:47 Hackbat wellt he guy just said when the volume got loud the mac would crash D: he was the one working on it and had to bitch at the hardware guys
02:47 Cprossu SSD didn't fucking exist in 1990
02:47 Cprossu and also CaptainNiobe, LC= Low Cost
02:48 CaptainNiobe lol... good point
02:48 Cprossu just remember though Hackbat the original mac had one sound.
02:48 Cprossu BEEP
02:49 Hackbat which one was the one that introduced the BONG! noise
02:49 Cprossu Mac II
02:49 Cprossu and it sounded different
02:49 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y58u79RrK60
02:49 Cprossu ^ BEEP!
02:50 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRvbN-y06RE
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02:50 Cprossu ^granted
02:50 Cprossu the appleIIGS
02:50 Cprossu had the first 'bonk'
02:52 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OuoEqWfQqc
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02:52 Cprossu it also had the first 'mac style keyboard'
02:52 * Tiredmonster bites exor674
02:53 * exor674 bites the monster!
02:53 Cprossu did I just kill Hackbat with useless facts?
02:53 Hackbat hmmm?
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02:54 Cprossu Hackbat : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E26tE7sU​1Cs&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=5s <-this noise is my favorite 'apple startup noise' though
02:55 Bat-Mobile .yt law and order donk donk
02:55 Cprossu although the original appleII beep followed by the disk ][ access comes close
02:55 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OlCVNn9ZeY
02:56 Cprossu Hackbat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dub4nraPLlQ
02:56 Cprossu ^ mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
03:02 clony omg im trying to talk some scence into my friend that school is good
03:06 CaptainNiobe school is good because the better the education you have, the better the potential job you can get, which potentially means more money to live on, which potentially means a much better lifestyle, which means much better comfort...
03:09 injektion In middle school they were using LCs with the IIe card
03:10 Monstermonster aw shit it's the captain.
03:10 astro73|derrial chris likes his scavenging
03:10 Cprossu injektion that doesn't shock me
03:10 * Monstermonster grabs CaptainNiobe and shakes her violently
03:10 Cprossu it was a popular option
03:11 Cprossu the old IIE educational software rocked.
03:11 Monstermonster is Toastdude here?
03:11 Toastdude Yep, Hi
03:11 CaptainNiobe Monstermonster, you're gonna have to shake me later - got a visitor :P
03:11 CSMonster Toastdude: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3522yv/
03:11 CSMonster aaaw :(
03:11 CaptainNiobe be back soonish
03:12 Toastdude I love that :D
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03:16 * Bat-Mobile has decided to buy a UPS
03:16 Toastdude Bat-Mobile: http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3522yv/
03:16 astro73|derrial wait, they annotated that link
03:21 CSMonster BAT-MOBILE
03:21 Bat-Mobile CSMonster!
03:21 CSMonster what's up?
03:22 CSMonster hey i think i found exor674 http://qkme.me/3523zh
03:22 * exor674 bites CSMonster
03:23 CSMonster :D
03:23 exor674 don't make me throw a bag of giant jawbreakers at your head
03:23 exor674 cause I will
03:24 CSMonster :(
03:24 exor674 <3
03:26 astro73|derrial also, i wonder if the thing in the lift is a silicon controlled switch?
03:28 CSMonster http://qkme.me/CRF
03:34 wannabe1987 awwww i'm the only one in my channel :(
03:35 Bat-Mobile that's because there was no talking going on there
03:35 wannabe1987 i left....duh
03:35 wannabe1987 just cuz theres no talking going on doesn't mean you need to leave....gosh
03:36 wannabe1987 otherwise i'd leave here a coupla times a day when its dead
03:36 Bat-Mobile Well, the other thing is that I don't have a lot to say about cooking most of the time.
03:36 wannabe1987 thats cuz its for people like yaotzin, tonsofpcs, angy, etc who cook
03:37 wannabe1987 o yNos|away too.  he makes interesting sounding food
03:38 wannabe1987 like curdled milk/cheese products
03:39 wannabe1987 i should go make cookies
03:39 Bat-Mobile go for it!
03:41 CSMonster (wannabe does sometimes leave here a couple times a day when people are talking about things she doesn't understand or care about.)
03:41 wannabe1987 that too....
03:42 wannabe1987 hence my own channel.  i can talk to myself about things that I care about and can understand.  i'm always watching when i'm not here...i'm still on the computer
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03:46 * wannabe1987 was invited to a party tomorrow night, i'd go if it weren't so damn far away....gosh
03:47 Bat-Mobile how far?
03:47 wannabe1987 Wyoming....
03:47 Toastdude D:
03:47 wannabe1987 city of...not stat
03:47 wannabe1987 e
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03:47 Toastdude Oh... Lol
03:48 lwq-home wannabe
03:48 wannabe1987 lol
03:48 wannabe1987 lee
03:48 Toastdude Lee
03:48 wannabe1987 i'm having chrome issues again...
03:48 lwq-home i see that
03:48 wannabe1987 i dont want to swithch to opera.....:sigh:
03:48 wannabe1987 i just want to make my cookies but the recipe is online....
03:48 lwq-home ;p;
03:48 lwq-home lol
03:49 wannabe1987 ;p; to you too gosh :P
03:49 * lwq-home is depressed but deosnt know why
03:49 wannabe1987 :hugs:
03:49 lwq-home i want to cry
03:49 * Toastdude hugs Lee
03:50 lwq-home i put on a smile but deep down inside im crying
03:51 CSMonster alcohol is the solution to all of your problems.
03:51 CSMonster wait...
03:51 wannabe1987 i know how you feel
03:51 CSMonster disregard.
03:51 Toastdude CSMonster....
03:51 wannabe1987 CSMonster don't teach the younguns bad things!
03:51 CSMonster I SAID DISREGARD
03:51 wannabe1987 i also have a recipe for cinnamon roll cookies....
03:51 Toastdude We all know pyrotechnics is the answer CSMonster
03:51 lwq-home what the hell i should go get a fifth of jack danles
03:51 wannabe1987 no
03:51 wannabe1987 please don't
03:52 Toastdude ?
03:52 wannabe1987 jack daneils is alc, Toastdude
03:52 CSMonster i was very much kidding.  drinking is about the worst thing you can do for depression.
03:52 wannabe1987 i know
03:52 * lwq-home feels like flying
03:52 wannabe1987 ....
03:52 wannabe1987 drugs are bad too!
03:52 * lwq-home goes out on pourch
03:52 Bat-Mobile flying is awesome
03:52 Toastdude Flying is the answer
03:52 wannabe1987 yeah, in a plane...
03:53 lwq-home I WANNABE A BIRD
03:53 wannabe1987 ....
03:53 wannabe1987 i'm not a bird!
03:53 CSMonster i wanna be a reaper drone.
03:53 lwq-home lol
03:53 CSMonster :D
03:54 Toastdude I wanna be a.... I dont really know
03:54 egrsteve just load up python and import anti-gravity
03:54 CSMonster toast.
03:54 Toastdude I already am that
03:55 wannabe1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.c​om/2011/08/rainbow-cookies.html  these but with choc chips :D
03:55 CSMonster for reference http://xkcd.com/353/
04:01 Toastdude the xkcd pages never work for me...
04:01 wannabe1987 yyyyy
04:02 Toastdude Idk, but it doesn't show the images
04:02 wannabe1987 ...
04:02 lwq-home lol
04:02 wannabe1987 you broke it!
04:02 Toastdude twss...
04:02 tonsofpcs 353 is compiling?
04:03 Toastdude no, none of them work
04:03 Toastdude Never have
04:03 tonsofpcs oh, 353 is python flying
04:03 tonsofpcs 391 is "won the game" :)
04:03 tonsofpcs 386 is "someone on the internet is wrong"
04:04 Toastdude Only one?
04:04 tonsofpcs 303 is compiling
04:04 lwq-home which one is sandwich
04:04 tonsofpcs http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png
04:04 tonsofpcs 149
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04:05 CSMonster ...
04:05 CSMonster tonsofpcs do you just have these memorized?
04:05 NeWtoz http://www.wafb.com/story/15354485/man-arreste​d-for-having-sex-with-a-pink-blow-up-pool-raft
04:05 Bat-Mobile I'm pretty impressed
04:05 tonsofpcs CSMonster: only some of them.
04:06 tonsofpcs I got compiling wrong, had to look it up (also looked up 353, obviously)
04:06 Bat-Mobile ooh, do you remember which one has the stick figure people in it?!
04:06 tonsofpcs Bat-Mobile: no, but I remember which one doesn't :-p
04:06 tonsofpcs (not really, but it's one of the really early ones)
04:06 Bat-Mobile I'm fairly sure I do too.  1-15 or so
04:07 CSMonster LOL
04:07 Bat-Mobile the red spiders one
04:07 tonsofpcs http://xkcd.com/681/ is on the cube wall at my desk, on tabloid paper
04:07 CSMonster and the spiders have how many legs?
04:07 Bat-Mobile dunno.  six maybe?
04:07 CSMonster six
04:07 Bat-Mobile I guessed that only because I assumed it wouldn't be eight.
04:08 CSMonster lol
04:08 Toastdude Lol
04:08 tonsofpcs also, radiation chart doesn't have a stick figure
04:08 Bat-Mobile Neither does "mars rover"
04:08 Bat-Mobile or "mars rover improved"
04:08 tonsofpcs actually, wait, maybe it does...
04:09 tonsofpcs the real one doesn't
04:09 tonsofpcs http://xkcd.com/54/ doesn't either.
04:09 lwq-home D: where she goin
04:09 tonsofpcs nor does http://xkcd.com/55/ (usual approach)
04:10 Cheesecake Hi
04:10 tonsofpcs also, wtf is the deal with those family stick figure decals anyway?
04:10 tonsofpcs (see today's comic)
04:11 tonsofpcs oh, the map doesn't have a stick figure either: http://xkcd.com/802/ (this is the newer one)
04:11 tonsofpcs nor does the IP address space, I don't think
04:11 astro73|derrial you've never seen them?
04:11 tonsofpcs IPv4 space: http://xkcd.com/195/ (a bit out of date)
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04:12 wannabe1987 ....
04:12 Italic_ left #thegeekgroup
04:12 lwq-home YAY SHES BACK
04:12 wannabe1987 i unplugged and moved the omputer and this happened....
04:12 wannabe1987 it shut down.
04:12 wannabe1987 wtf
04:12 lwq-home LOL
04:12 tonsofpcs battery ded?
04:12 wannabe1987 no....
04:12 astro73|derrial tonsofpcs: they assigned all the IPs to RRs, right?
04:12 wannabe1987 its full
04:13 wannabe1987 .seen druidic_rifleman
04:13 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw druidic_rifleman 30.76 hours ago at 2011-08-31 21:27:29 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:13:05 UTC
04:13 wannabe1987 ....
04:15 * wannabe1987 makes cookies :D
04:15 lwq-home at 12?
04:16 wannabe1987 yes!
04:16 wannabe1987 who says i can't?
04:16 lwq-home father time
04:16 Toastdude No, 12:16 :P
04:16 lwq-home toast shut up
04:16 astro73|derrial you can also have bacon whenever you feel like it
04:16 tonsofpcs mmm cookies
04:17 tonsofpcs bACON cookies!
04:17 wannabe1987 ....bacon cookies?
04:17 wannabe1987 hmmmm
04:17 tonsofpcs do you need a recipe or three?
04:17 wannabe1987 for bacon cookies?
04:17 tonsofpcs i mean, you could just dip the bacon in chocolate and make them the same as chocolate chip cookies, using chocolate covered bacon instead of choccolate
04:18 wannabe1987 i was thinking using bacon bits instead of chocolate chips...
04:18 lwq-home tonsofpcs i wonder about you sometimes....did you get enough sleep
04:18 wannabe1987 lwq-home everything is better with bacon
04:18 tonsofpcs bacon bits? those usually aren't bacon
04:19 tonsofpcs lwq-home: have you never had bacon or something?
04:19 lwq-home ik
04:19 wannabe1987 these are....
04:19 tonsofpcs also, why do you only wonder about me sometimes? :-p
04:19 lwq-home it tasts like shit coved in shit
04:19 astro73|derrial chocolate-covered bacon isn't his idea
04:19 wannabe1987 kirkland signature 100% real crumbled bacon
04:19 lwq-home what the hell i wonder about everyone
04:19 Cprossu I call bullshit tonsofpcs
04:19 tonsofpcs Cprossu: hmm?
04:20 Cprossu "Hormel® bacon toppings are made from one hundred percent real bacon. To add a delicate, mild bacon flavor to salads, soups and other recipes choose our bacon toppings for real bacon, real fast, real easy."
04:20 astro73|derrial doesn't mean they just chopped up bacon
04:20 wannabe1987 mines from costco
04:20 lwq-home bull shit cprossu..
04:20 tonsofpcs http://www.amazon.com/Betty-Crocker-​Bacos-Flavor-4-4-Ounce/dp/B000EFBM4O
04:20 Cprossu yeah but that's not 'bacon bits'
04:20 lwq-home unless its dehydrated its not bacon
04:20 Cprossu 'bacon bits' is a hormel product.
04:21 astro73|derrial it just means that they produced all the ingrediants from bacon
04:21 tonsofpcs really? cus it says bits in like 500pt font right on the front of it
04:21 tonsofpcs anyway, you need the grease :D
04:21 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: iirc, you want the cookie dough to be extra sweet to cut against the salt from the bacon.  I could be wrong thoughh.
04:22 lwq-home omg yeah. bacon without grease is like -blank- without -blank-
04:22 wannabe1987 true...
04:22 tonsofpcs http://bacontoday.com/bacon-cookies/
04:22 Toastdude TTurkey bacon is the best
04:22 Cprossu I prefer my grease with bacon.
04:22 tonsofpcs uses bacon grease ^
04:22 egrsteve I prefer bacon with my grease
04:22 tonsofpcs also, both the domain and the path include bacon.
04:22 wannabe1987 lol
04:22 lwq-home hmmm...bacon grease to put on the ban
04:22 tonsofpcs I prefer bacon with my <>
04:22 lwq-home pan
04:23 wannabe1987 i asked facebook.
04:23 wannabe1987 we shall see
04:23 tonsofpcs asked them what? if you should use bacon?
04:24 lwq-home yes tonsofpcs
04:24 astro73|derrial .... why is the landline ringing?
04:24 lwq-home im going to bed...night
04:24 wannabe1987 nigh tlee
04:24 lwq-home night toastdude
04:24 lwq-home night wannabe
04:25 wannabe1987 night
04:25 lwq-home night astro
04:25 Toastdude Night lwq-home
04:25 lwq-home night tonsofpcs
04:25 lwq-home night all the rest
04:25 tonsofpcs night, baconhater ;)
04:25 lwq-home i like bacon just not in my cookies
04:25 tonsofpcs have you ever had bacon cookies?
04:25 lwq-home no
04:25 tonsofpcs then how do you know?
04:25 tonsofpcs anyway, g'nite ;)
04:26 lwq-home but i can imagine what they taste like
04:26 tonsofpcs ever have pancakes with bacon?
04:26 lwq-home night arguer
04:26 tonsofpcs yea, that.
04:27 tonsofpcs ok, so back to truely geeky things: I need a button (momentary) with a cover (to prevent accidental pressings), large enough to write three letters on, preferrably red.  Ideas?
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04:28 astro73|derrial does it have to be robust?
04:28 Bat-Mobile I have a button like that, but I don't have a cover for it.
04:28 Bat-Mobile Would you like it?
04:28 * Toastdude pushes the big red button
04:29 * AgCNO6 goes BOOM
04:30 tonsofpcs Bat-Mobile: I need the cover.  It's going to be mounted on a rack with a lot of buttons that need to be pressed regularly and it needs to not be pressed except when needed (which will be once a week)
04:30 tonsofpcs oh, also, preferably able to fit in a 1RU panel
04:31 Bat-Mobile hmm
04:31 Bat-Mobile I can't help you then
04:31 Bat-Mobile sorry
04:31 tonsofpcs I think I might spend an hour or two tomorrow morning researching buttons :)
04:31 wannabe1987 what for?
04:31 tonsofpcs pressing :-p
04:31 tonsofpcs (activating EAS tests)
04:32 Toastdude lol :P
04:32 astro73|derrial if you're good with plastic, could always make a cover over a smaller button
04:32 tonsofpcs I'm not and I lack the tools to do so even if I was
04:33 astro73|derrial the lab has a bin full of control buttons, but i don't remember any covers
04:34 tonsofpcs I wonder if egrsteve knows of any off the top of his head that I can order
04:35 egrsteve umm
04:35 Cprossu lol
04:36 egrsteve you could try allen bradly (rockwell automation) or schnider electric
04:36 tonsofpcs rockwell as in rockwell/collins?
04:36 egrsteve for industrial buttions I assume they also both make covers
04:36 egrsteve schnider will be cheaper
04:37 Cprossu a 1RU hrmmm
04:37 Cprossu that limits the options
04:37 tonsofpcs well, I'll make a 2RU panel if I need to
04:37 Cprossu who makes everyone's arcade buttons I wonder?
04:37 tonsofpcs it doesn't need to be a huge button.  If I can't write the three letters on it, I can put it on the panel next to it.
04:39 * wannabe1987 sneezes. ugh
04:39 * wannabe1987 hates allergies
04:41 Cprossu ooooh
04:41 Cprossu http://www.happindustrial.co​m/pushbuttons/57180900r.htm
04:42 tonsofpcs I so want to stick the "call attendant" button on the panel also :-p
04:42 Cprossu haha
04:42 tonsofpcs make a circuit to toggle it between unlit and blinking states like on an airplane :-p
04:45 tonsofpcs I suppose I could do something like
04:45 egrsteve does it need to be a pushbutton
04:45 tonsofpcs http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ignition-Switch-Pan​el-Push-Button-Starter-w-Flip-Cover-/130486871621
04:46 tonsofpcs egrsteve: it needs to be momentary.
04:46 tonsofpcs a bat switch with springs would work too, i guess
04:46 egrsteve would a momentary toggle w/ cover work
04:46 tonsofpcs yea
04:46 egrsteve link time
04:46 Cprossu woo!
04:46 tonsofpcs the more awesome looking, the better, of course.  This is getting installed in a radio studio :)
04:47 tonsofpcs (and later I'll probably install another in TV mc)
04:47 tonsofpcs oh, and rating really doesn't matter... I think the spec is 5V 3mA... or maybe it was 9V....
04:48 tonsofpcs (it's just a remote closure)
04:48 egrsteve http://www.mpja.com/prodinfo.asp?number=16083+SW
04:48 egrsteve http://www.mpja.com/prodinfo.asp?number=16101+SW
04:49 egrsteve it's on/momentay single pole dual throw so it should work, plus a cover
04:49 wannabe1987 this is seriously some of THE BEST cookie dough EVER....omg
04:49 tonsofpcs yea, looks like I can do that w/ ratshack parts too, http://www.radioshack.com/produ​ct/index.jsp?productId=2062493 and one of their momentary switches
04:49 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: does it have bacon added?
04:50 wannabe1987 no.  thats tomorrow
04:50 tonsofpcs "safety cover", maybe that's the keyword...
04:50 wannabe1987 today its chocolate
04:50 egrsteve ratshack does not look momentary
04:50 wannabe1987 choc chips
04:50 wannabe1987 :)
04:50 Bat-Mobile tonsofpcs: molly guard
04:50 wannabe1987 molly?  why do you need to guard her...
04:50 tonsofpcs no, you're guarding the switch from her.  she likes red buttons.
04:51 wannabe1987 ahhhh
04:51 wannabe1987 most people like to press buttons
04:53 egrsteve ok, time for sleep here
04:53 tonsofpcs thanks, g'nite :)
04:54 tonsofpcs if it weren't going to be in a publicly visible area, I'd just hack one of these: http://www.thinkgeek.com/c​omputing/accessories/9116/
04:55 wannabe1987 night steve
04:56 egrsteve http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9181
04:56 egrsteve http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9336
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04:57 egrsteve http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9807
05:05 Cprossu specifically you're guarding bring your daughter to work day molly against pressing the big red button on the IBM mainframe
05:05 Cprossu IIRC.
05:06 Cprossu so tonsofpcs are you going to have one of those toggles labeled "Xmas Lights - White House Lawn"
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05:07 tonsofpcs heh
05:08 tonsofpcs no, this button just makes the "OMG Emergency" noise that interrupts your TV/radio shows.
05:08 Cprossu haha
05:09 tonsofpcs (ok, the RWT just makes the 'duck farts' and not the attention tones, but same idea ;)
05:09 Cprossu tonsofpcs : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqqJ-tEMnbU <- oh fuck haha
05:11 tonsofpcs that's made up... I wonder what that tone decodes to...
05:12 Cprossu some of those are fun
05:13 tonsofpcs I have a brand new, updated list of alert types at work.... it's quite interesting
05:15 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
05:15 BotSteve Captain's Blog 9-1-11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BV-bHFswQBo
05:17 Cprossu tonsofpcs funny pm
05:18 Toastdude Night all
05:22 Cprossu I wonder if this is real
05:22 Cprossu http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5jK_iLl-fP​U/Tdrb6mIA1bI/AAAAAAAAAEA/kJ7uR-cOSP​k/s1600/Sub+Toilet+%25281%2529.jpg
05:23 Cprossu http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_U4qHfYUIKw8​/SxcqBWVgC2I/AAAAAAAAAho/qrKdt6-i3iY/​s400/Submarine+Toilet+Instruction.jpg
05:23 Cprossu ^ I think that must go with it
05:24 tonsofpcs I think i'm going to the electronics and electrics stores in the am
05:26 pegasus http://i.imgur.com/laDBj.jpg
05:26 pegasus s/Mom/Chris Boden/
05:26 pegasus shit HP printer autopsy
05:28 tonsofpcs http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=mome​ntary+safety+cover+button&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=​off&amp;client=ubuntu&amp;channel=fs&amp;prmd​=ivns&amp;um=1&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&amp​;biw=1024&amp;bih=421&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;tbm=sh​op&amp;cid=16665527864344150644&amp;sa=X&amp;​ei=7GZgTqfPPNHegQeXtI3JAQ&amp;ved=0CHQQ8wIwBw << overkill
05:28 Cprossu and not 1u
05:28 Cprossu Although the "head," or toilet, in a submarine looks like its terrestrial counterpart, there are major differences. Waste on a submarine is transferred into a holding tank below the commode via a hand-operated ball valve. To remove it, the tank is pressurized up to 700 psi (49.2 kg/sq. cm) and the waste is then blown outside the pressure hull.
05:28 Cprossu ^ I guess that explains the warning
05:29 pegasus don't flush when that happens.
05:30 Cprossu considering there's 8 steps for flushing
05:30 Cprossu I assume get one out of order...
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05:30 Cprossu or 1/2 way
05:30 pegasus you will look like a golgothan
05:30 Cprossu and god help you.
05:31 pegasus for reference: http://img37.imageshack.us​/img37/6416/golgothan.jpg
05:31 tonsofpcs bat pie!
05:34 Cprossu so AFTER you do your business 1. Charge Air bottle and Open Sea and N.R. Valves, 2. Open Flush Inlet Valve... 'with extreme care' 3. Free Lever and Bring to Pause 4. Bring Lever to Flushing 5. Bring Lever to Discharge 6. Bring Lever to Pause 7. Return Lever to Normal and Lock 8. Close All Valves
05:34 Cprossu step 2 would SUCK if the tank were pressurized.
05:35 pegasus also known as charging a tank
05:35 pegasus which may be the point of the joke
05:35 Seroster lol
05:35 Cprossu hence it should be possible to 'sabatoge' a toilet.
05:35 Cprossu for the next person.
05:36 pegasus a smart crewman would discharge before flushing
05:36 Seroster Erm
05:36 Seroster I would want to 1, take a shit.
05:37 Seroster 2, Close off the valve between the toilet and the tank
05:37 Seroster 3, pressurise the tank
05:37 pegasus 2, equalize pressure of sewage tank with pressure in the bathroom
05:37 Seroster 4, blow the shit out
05:37 Cprossu you messed up the steps
05:37 Cprossu you get covered in your shit Seroster
05:37 pegasus 3. flush
05:37 Cprossu try again
05:37 pegasus 4. whatever, not my problem at that point
05:38 Cprossu rofl pegasus
05:38 Seroster Cprossu, assuming there is no pressure difference when I start. =P
05:38 Cprossu no your step 2 was different
05:39 Seroster ERm
05:39 Seroster When I start to take my shit the valve is open
05:39 Seroster Then I close the valve
05:39 Cprossu well you have to mention that lol
05:39 Seroster Then I blow it out
05:39 Seroster I DID
05:39 Cprossu you didn't though
05:39 Cprossu <@Seroster> I would want to 1, take a shit.
05:39 Cprossu [22:37] <@Seroster> 2, Close off the valve between the toilet and the tank
05:39 Seroster Yes, the second one.
05:39 Cprossu you didn't say the ball valve was opened
05:40 Seroster To closethe valve it has to be open in the first place, eh?
05:40 Cprossu how would you be able to tell with all those levers Seroster
05:40 CSMonster http://youtu.be/VtRb4qEpWRg
05:41 Seroster Hopefully I'd know what each leverdid =P
05:41 Cprossu the point is if you screw up the order it blows your shit back on you
05:41 Cprossu @ 700psi or less
05:42 pegasus and yes, i would be unlikely to flush a submarine toilet (regardless of whether or not i'd use it) without understanding all the valves
05:42 pegasus so i second seroster's sentiment there
05:43 Seroster Would probably benefit from some safetys
05:43 Seroster Like... One way valves.
05:43 pegasus one-way valves cost money
05:43 Seroster Because if ONE crewman is covered in shit the rest of the crew will know, and they will know for the rest of the trip
05:44 pegasus this is the federal government, we spend all our money on hammers and toilet seats
05:45 pegasus http://i.imgur.com/M6PI5.jpg
05:45 Seroster lol peg
05:47 Cprossu haha
05:47 Cprossu good one
05:47 Cprossu HAHAHAHA
05:47 Seroster cya folks
05:48 Cprossu autocomplete on google is gunny
05:48 Cprossu *funny
05:48 pegasus you ever put your own name in there
05:48 pegasus takes 5 letters to get "cprossu"
05:49 pegasus takes "pegasus ep" to get me
05:49 Cprossu type in "Why was I"
05:50 tonsofpcs ok, nap time, g'nite Cprossu, Seroster, pegasus, other people still awake but hiding
05:50 Cprossu one thing first
05:51 pegasus my friend's real name is the #1 autocomplete result after typing 8 characters of his 11 character first + last name combo
05:52 pegasus he's famous, yo
05:52 pegasus seroster doesn't show up until you actually type the R
05:52 Cprossu http://oi51.tinypic.com/2nga63n.jpg
05:52 Cprossu ^ tonsofpcs pegasus rofl
05:52 Cprossu 3rd one is my favorite I think
05:52 pegasus "tonsofpcs" gets auto-completed to "tons of pics", no result
05:53 pegasus oh, you mean google instant
05:53 pegasus yeah, i have that crap off
05:53 Cprossu if you type in my real name it doesn't auto complete.
05:53 tonsofpcs try
05:53 tonsofpcs "help, i'm "
05:53 tonsofpcs And<tab>?
05:54 tonsofpcs pegasus: huh?
05:54 Cprossu alive, alive lyrics, im bored imdb and im alive chords @ tonsofpcs
05:54 tonsofpcs Cprossu: rightt, i can do it here too..
05:54 tonsofpcs I get "a fish" also though
05:55 pegasus tonsofpcs: i'm saying google auto-complete doesn't know you. it thinks i mean "tons of pics"
05:55 pegasus http://pegasus.pimpninjas.org/cprossu.png -- knows him though
05:55 Cprossu lol
05:56 pegasus "help, i'm being repressed" = win
05:56 Cprossu my callsign doesn't autocomplete either
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05:56 pegasus probably know's boden's
05:56 pegasus knows
05:57 pegasus KD8ZPH
05:57 pegasus nope, doesn't know him
05:58 pegasus not until you get to "chris bod", then he's #5
05:58 pegasus "the gee" = #3, "the geek " = #2, "the geek g" = #1
05:58 Cprossu http://oi51.tinypic.com/2cfpsx.jpg
05:58 Cprossu ^ hahahahaha
05:59 Cprossu 3rd = win
05:59 pegasus google knows a disturbing amount, but not everything
05:59 pegasus previously demonstrated thus:
05:59 pegasus https://encrypted.google.com/search?q=the​+speed+of+light+times+the+density+of+gold
05:59 pegasus http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=the+​speed+of+light+times+the+density+of+gold
06:00 Cprossu wow
06:00 Cprossu type in wol
06:00 pegasus a completely useless bit of trivia, but known by wolfram alpha, and not by google.
06:01 pegasus yep
06:01 Cprossu pegasus wol = first result wolfram alpha
06:01 pegasus wolfram|alpha = win
06:01 pegasus if someone tool wolfram alpha and google and bred them, the result would probably be self-aware
06:01 pegasus s/tool/took/
06:02 pegasus http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=co​ntinued+fraction+representations+of+pi
06:03 pegasus http://www.wolframalpha.com/input​/?i=series+representations+of+pi
06:03 Cprossu google autocomplete isn't that good for jokes either it seems
06:05 Cprossu http://oi52.tinypic.com/1zmjrs9.jpg
06:05 Cprossu ^ ok attempt though
06:05 pegasus http://www.wolframalpha.com/inp​ut/?i=pi+times+e+plus+c+over+i
06:06 Cprossu .wa the answer to life, the universe, and everything
06:06 BotSteve Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything;42, (according to Douglas Adams\' humorous science-fiction novel The Hitchhiker\'s Guide to the Galaxy)
06:06 pegasus i just like the completely ridiculous nonsense you can put into wolfram|alpha and get a reasonable answer back
06:07 Cprossu .wa the answer to life, the universe, and everything * pi
06:07 BotSteve (Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything) pi;42 pi~~131.947, (according to Douglas Adams\' humorous science-fiction novel The Hitchhiker\'s Guide to the Galaxy)
06:07 pegasus like this: http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=molar+ma​ss+of+one+cubic+parsec+of+oxygen+at+sea+level
06:07 Cprossu wow
06:07 pegasus i know, right?
06:09 * wannabe1987 starts bitching to herself
06:10 pegasus it seems to be missing some thermal data
06:10 pegasus like the condensation temperature curves for hydrogen
06:11 pegasus oh, there we go
06:11 pegasus just have to figure out how to say it
06:11 Cprossu wow
06:11 Cprossu if you type in 'where in '
06:11 Cprossu it comes up with the rest
06:12 pegasus google?
06:12 Cprossu I remember watching that as a kid
06:12 Cprossu yeah google
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06:12 Cprossu I never played the games
06:12 Cprossu but I did watch the tv series
06:12 pegasus http://www.wolframalpha.com/inp​ut/?i=melting+point+of+hydrogen
06:13 pegasus it doesn't know at various pressures though
06:14 pegasus and it doesn't know the vapor point, either
06:14 * pegasus shrugs
06:14 Cprossu .wa vapor point hydrogen
06:14 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
06:14 Cprossu pity
06:14 Cprossu ooh
06:14 Cprossu .wa pity
06:14 BotSteve pi t y y;pi t y^2;t = 0;y = 0;Delta = 0;(d)\/(dy)(pi t y y) = 2 pi t y;integral pi t y y dy = 1\/3 pi t y^3+constant;integral  integral_(t^2+y^2&lt;R^2)pi t y^2 dt dy = 0
06:14 Cprossu HAHAHAHA
06:14 pegasus hahahah
06:15 pegasus oh, wait, it's just buried in the results
06:15 Cprossu still funny
06:15 pegasus boiling point of hydrogen, -252.8C
06:15 pegasus http://www.wolframalpha.com/inp​ut/?i=boiling+point+of+hydrogen
06:15 pegasus gotta work out the right terms.
06:15 Cprossu pity came out really funny though
06:16 pegasus Assuming "pit" is concatenated variables | Use "pity" as a word instead
06:16 pegasus http://www.wolframalpha.com/inpu​t/?i=pity&amp;a=*MC.pity-_*Word-
06:16 Cprossu but that's not nearly as funny
06:16 pegasus i wasn't aware that they were teaching wolfram alpha languages now
06:16 pegasus that' shandy
06:16 pegasus that's handy, even
06:16 Cprossu .wa pitfall
06:17 BotSteve Pitfall  (movie);title->Pitfall, director->Andr&eacute; De Toth, release date->August 24, 1948  (63 years 0.3 months ago), runtime->86 minutes  (1 hour 26 minutes), writers->Jay Dratler -> Karl Kamb, genre->film-noir;actor->character(s), Dick Powell->John Forbes, Lizabeth Scott->Mona Stevens, Jane Wyatt->Sue Forbes, Raymond Burr->MacDonald, John Litel->District Attorney
06:17 Cprossu .wa pits
06:17 BotSteve pits  (English word);1->noun->a sizeable hole (usually in the ground), 2->noun->a concavity in a surface (especially an anatomical depression), 3->noun->the hard inner (usually woody) layer of the pericarp of some fruits (as peaches or plums or cherries or olives) that contains the seed, 4->noun->(Christianity) the abode of Satan and the forces of evil; where sinners suffer eternal punishment, 5->noun->an enclosure in
06:17 Cprossu damn.
06:18 pegasus nice
06:18 pegasus since i can't paste kanji...
06:18 pegasus oh, wait
06:18 pegasus http://www.wolframalpha.com/​input/?i=%E7%A7%81+japanese
06:18 pegasus that'll do
06:18 pegasus i like the response most
06:19 pegasus the response could stand to be in japanese though :)
06:19 Cprossu .wa pistes
06:19 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
06:19 Cprossu yay I broke wolfram!
06:19 pegasus Using closest Wolfram|Alpha interpretation: lead
06:20 pegasus Assuming "lead" is a chemical element | Use as a physical quantity or a periodical or a word instead
06:20 pegasus the problem with .wa in my experience is usually in botsteve rather than wolfram alpha
06:20 Cprossu n. - A flat rectangular area for fencing bouts
06:20 Cprossu or # n. - A ski run densely packed with snow
06:21 pegasus according to google, it's french for tracks
06:21 Cprossu it's in the scrabble dictionary so it's legit.
06:21 pegasus http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pistes
06:22 Cprossu well either way wa failed.
06:22 pegasus it's still new to language, give it a few years
06:22 Cprossu I know I am just being a pisser
06:22 pegasus it's a master of math and almost a master of science, language is more complicated
06:22 Cprossu ooh
06:22 Cprossu .wa pisser
06:22 BotSteve pisser  (English word);1->noun->a person who urinates, 2->noun->a very disagreeable difficulty;urinator;bed wetter -> bedwetter -> wetter;individual -> mortal -> person -> somebody -> someone -> soul -> difficulty   (total: 7);(none among common words);kisser -> passer -> pisses;(none);8   (International English) -> 8   (North American English);spires;(???)  ?74-7737
06:23 Cprossu good deal lol
06:23 pegasus .wa sod
06:23 BotSteve turf;density->0.4 g\/cm^3
06:23 pegasus http://www.wolframalpha.com/inp​ut/?i=sod&amp;a=*C.sod-_*Word-
06:23 Cprossu .wa 92kwh * 20,000J * speed of light / density of gold
06:23 BotSteve 92 kW h  (kilowatt hours)&times;20000 J&times;gold->speed of light\/gold->density;(insufficient data available)
06:25 pegasus 1.03C10^17 kg m^8/s^5  (kilogram meters to the 8 per second to the fifth)
06:26 pegasus .wa 92kwh * 20,000 joules * speed of light / density of gold
06:26 BotSteve 92 kW h  (kilowatt hours)&times;(20000 J c  (joule speed of light in vacuum))\/gold->density;95300 cm^3hr J kW c\/g  (centimeter cubed hour joule kilowatt speed of light in vacuum per gram);1.03&times;10^17 kg m^8\/s^5  (kilogram meters to the 8 per second to the fifth)
06:26 pegasus it's picky sometimes.
06:26 Cprossu .wa 92kwh * 20,000J *  c / (19.3g/cm^3)
06:26 BotSteve 92 kW h  (kilowatt hours)&times;20000 J  (joules)&times;(c  (speed of light in vacuum))\/(19.30 g\/cm^3  (grams per cubic centimeter));1.029&times;10^17 kg m^8\/s^5  (kilogram meters to the 8 per second to the fifth);1.007&times;10^17 in^4BTU_IT^2\/(lb s)  (inch to the fourth IT British thermal units squared per pound second);1.029&times;10^17 W^3\/Pa^2  (watts cubed per pascal squared);(no standard named quantities);[
06:27 Cprossu wow I am confused
06:27 Cprossu we ended up with differing results I think?
06:28 pegasus results in both watts cubed per pascal squared and inch to the fourth IT british thermal units squared and kilogram meters to the 8th per second to the 5th
06:28 pegasus it's trying so hard
06:28 pegasus and no, same results
06:28 Cprossu ok I just read it wrong then
06:29 Cprossu how did inches get into it?
06:29 pegasus density is a measure of weight over volume
06:29 pegasus cubic centimeters convert to cubic inches just fine
06:29 Cprossu yeah but the rest of the units were metricated.
06:29 pegasus it's struggling really hard with that question
06:29 Cprossu in fact all of them were
06:30 pegasus trying to find a standard result unit
06:30 Cprossu well I asked a question that makes no sense
06:30 Cprossu but it could have
06:30 pegasus of course, that's the point
06:30 pegasus let's see...
06:31 pegasus here's one that it legitimately fails
06:31 pegasus http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=rela​tive+mass+of+a+30+gram+object+at+1%2F2+c
06:32 Cprossu wow.
06:32 Cprossu oooh that gives me an idea
06:33 Cprossu .wa Mass of 50g weight in space
06:33 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
06:33 Cprossu wow I can't make this work
06:34 Cprossu .wa mass of 50gram mass in space
06:34 pegasus yeah, the question is nonsensical
06:34 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
06:34 Cprossu .wa mass of 50gram mass on mars
06:34 BotSteve skin swelling  (symptom)->(45 to 55) g, Mars->mass;(insufficient sample size), (based on a total sample size of 131748  patient visits to healthcare providers from NAMCS and NHAMCS, 2006 to 2007)
06:34 * pegasus blinks
06:34 Cprossu I am not asking a nonsensical question here though
06:34 pegasus .wa 50g weight on mars
06:34 BotSteve Mars->weight;0.0417 lbf  (pounds-force);185 mN  (millinewtons);0.185 N  (newtons);18500 dynes,  (unit officially deprecated);18.9 ponds;0.0189 kp  (kiloponds);Mass m of a body from w = mg:, ->0.0013 slugs, ->19 grams
06:35 pegasus 19 grams.
06:35 Cprossu WHAT?!
06:35 pegasus you're asking a question about weight, not mass
06:35 Cprossu no I am meaning to ask about mass.
06:35 Cprossu as in the output should be the same of the output
06:35 pegasus weight is about continuous downward force from gravity, mass is a property of matter which doesn't change at rest
06:35 Cprossu and grams shouldn't change
06:35 Cprossu exactly
06:35 Cprossu mass doesn't change.
06:36 Cprossu why in the world did it change there?
06:36 pegasus but the weight of 30 gram object on mars is the same weight as a 19 gram object on earth
06:36 Cprossu a 50gram object is 50grams whether it's on mars or earth.
06:36 pegasus which is what wolfram alpha is saying
06:36 Cprossu or in space.
06:36 Cprossu except it didn't.
06:36 pegasus i'm talking about relative weight :)
06:37 Cprossu but you don't measure relative weight in grams.
06:37 pegasus and so is wolfram alpha, but not being explicit, because science noobs ask questions like "how much would i weigh on the moon lol"
06:37 Cprossu hence it just said 50 grams = 19 grams because it converted grams to lb.
06:37 Cprossu and back again
06:38 Cprossu the point is 50 grams is 50 grams.
06:38 Cprossu right?!
06:38 pegasus it actually talks about pounds force higher up on the page
06:38 Av_Nekoroms some lost in translation
06:38 pegasus where "force" matters more
06:39 pegasus but the simplified answer for the masses is 19 grams
06:39 Cprossu lbs are based on the force of gravity, grams however are not.
06:39 pegasus it also spits out the formula, mass m of a body from weight = mass * gravity
06:40 Cprossu exactly so gravity is factored out of a mass.
06:41 pegasus so it takes Xg (mars normal) times 30 grams = weight, then that result over 1g (earth normal) gravity = 19g
06:41 pegasus get it?
06:41 Cprossu no.
06:41 pegasus it's a simplified answer for the people that don't understand the difference between mass and weight
06:41 Cprossu also I thought
06:41 Cprossu the gravity on mars....
06:41 Cprossu hrmmm
06:41 Cprossu .wa gravity on earth
06:41 Cprossu .wa gravity on mars
06:42 BotSteve Mars->gravity;12.2 ft\/s^2  (feet per second squared);146 in\/s^2  (inches per second squared);8.3 mi\/hr\/s  (miles per hour per second);3.71 m\/s^2  (meters per second squared);371 cm\/s^2  (centimeters per second squared);13.4 km\/hr\/s  (kilometers per hour per second);~~ 0.57 &times; acceleration from 0 to 100 km\/h of a 2008 Aston Martin DBS (~~ 6.5 m\/s^2 );~~ 0.98 &times; acceleration from 0 to 60 mph of a 2001
06:42 Cprossu .wa gravity on earth
06:42 BotSteve Earth->gravity;32.2 ft\/s^2  (feet per second squared);386 in\/s^2  (inches per second squared);21.9 mi\/hr\/s  (miles per hour per second);9.8 m\/s^2  (meters per second squared);980 cm\/s^2  (centimeters per second squared);35.3 km\/hr\/s  (kilometers per hour per second);~~ 0.35 &times; highest recorded average drag racer acceleration on a quarter-mile course (~~ 28 m\/s^2 );~~ 1.3 &times; acceleration from 0 to 100
06:42 wannabe1987 .seen exor674
06:42 BotSteve Earth->gravity;32.2 ft\/s^2  (feet per second squared);386 in\/s^2  (inches per second squared);21.9 mi\/hr\/s  (miles per hour per second);9.8 m\/s^2  (meters per second squared);980 cm\/s^2  (centimeters per second squared);35.3 km\/hr\/s  (kilometers per hour per second);~~ 0.35 &times; highest recorded average drag racer acceleration on a quarter-mile course (~~ 28 m\/s^2 );~~ 1.3 &times; acceleration from 0 to 100
06:42 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw exor674 3.29 hours ago at 2011-09-02 03:24:38 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:42:17 UTC
06:42 Cprossu yikes
06:42 Cprossu so that's weird then
06:42 pegasus Earth->gravity;32.2 ft/s^2
06:42 Cprossu it pulled mars first
06:42 pegasus Mars->gravity;12.2 ft/s^2
06:42 Cprossu so that's what it's doing
06:43 Cprossu it should still not put an answer in grams.
06:43 pegasus 30g * 12.2 / 32.2 = 19g
06:43 pegasus although my calculator says 11. something
06:43 pegasus 11.3664596273291925465838509316770186335403
06:43 Cprossu remember we're mixing things here
06:43 Cprossu I'm still sticking with 50g is 50g
06:43 pegasus oh, 50g
06:44 pegasus 50 * 12.2 / 32.2
06:44 pegasus 18.9440993788819875776397515527950310559006
06:44 pegasus 19 grams.
06:44 Cprossu which is wrong.
06:44 pegasus i agree that it's technically inaccurate
06:44 pegasus but it's what people want to know when they ask how much they'd weigh on mars
06:44 Cprossu not really
06:44 Cprossu their MASS would be the same
06:44 Cprossu just as their KG would be the same
06:44 pegasus normal people don't know that
06:45 Cprossu their weight would not be
06:45 Cprossu 18.9440993788819875776397515527950310559006g to lb
06:45 pegasus normal people don't understand the difference between mass and weight
06:45 Cprossu .wa 18.9440993788819875776397515527950310559006g to lb
06:45 BotSteve convert 18.944099378881987577639751552795031055901 grams to pounds;0.04176459004123457​2745656527583995804550021 lb  (pounds);0.0189440993788819​87577639751552795031055901 kg  (kilograms);0.66823344065975​316393050444134393287280033 oz  (ounces);10.69173505055605​0622888071061502925964805 drams;~~ 1.3 &times; mass of an empty 12-ounce aluminum soda can (~~ 15 g );~~ 3.3 &times; mass of a US quarter ( 0.0125 lb );~~ 7.6 &ti
06:45 Cprossu wait what the hell
06:45 Cprossu ok
06:45 Cprossu anyway the point is
06:45 Cprossu it's supposed to be scientifically accurate
06:45 Cprossu and it's not.
06:45 pegasus it does give a scientifically accurate answer
06:46 pegasus 50g weight on mars = 0.0417lbf (pounds force)
06:46 Cprossu if it was in different units it would pegasus
06:46 Cprossu yeah that is fine
06:46 Cprossu but when it takes it to grams
06:46 Cprossu it's in the wrong.
06:46 pegasus the "taking to grams" bit is under "corresponding quantity", not "result"
06:47 pegasus 0.0417lbf is under "result"
06:47 * Cprossu fills out a feedback form
06:47 pegasus ha
06:47 pegasus if you talk to a normal person about earth normal gravity their eyes will glaze over and they'll suggest you go talk to NASA about it.
06:48 Cprossu did normal people program wolfram alpha though?
06:48 pegasus no, but they wrote it to be useful to the scientific community *and* normal people
06:48 pegasus and it has both answers
06:49 Cprossu yes but it should not spit back anything technically wrong.
06:49 Cprossu if they added the gravitational force of mars attached to the grams answer
06:49 pegasus it's not technically wrong, the corresponding mass in earth normal gravity = 19 grams
06:49 Cprossu it would be correct.
06:49 Cprossu no because mass doesn't change.
06:49 pegasus "corresponding quantity"
06:50 pegasus the amount of grams that produce the same weight in earth normal gravity
06:50 pegasus 19 grams.
06:50 Cprossu it's still stretching it
06:50 pegasus if nothing else, this is a semantic argument and you're being a pedant, you ought to be able to accept that
06:51 Cprossu no but I will know what to ask of kids in a physics class if I am ever a teacher
06:51 pegasus you and me both.
06:51 Cprossu to see if they just 'wa'ed it'
06:51 Cprossu and wrote down the answer without understanding it
06:52 pegasus i have piles of little things that i'll drill into the heads of students
06:52 pegasus if i ever teach an HTML class, day 1 i'll write "<HTML>" on the board and ask what's wrong with that
06:52 Cprossu I told you about the A+ classes I taught right pegasus?
06:52 pegasus if nobody can answer, i'll just go home.
06:53 Cprossu good times.
06:53 pegasus i don't think you did
06:53 Cprossu ok
06:53 Cprossu first day middle school kids.
06:53 Cprossu keep in mind I was all of 15 or so
06:53 Cprossu 486's I specifically built up
06:53 Cprossu one piece AT style cases
06:53 Cprossu (towers, the bitchy kind)
06:54 Cprossu only thing onboard was the keyboard port.
06:54 pegasus the kind that demand blood
06:54 Cprossu everything else was a controller on it's own
06:54 pegasus apostrophe abuse
06:54 Cprossu so I had 11 boxes, 2 a team
06:54 Cprossu first day.
06:54 Cprossu Take it apart.
06:54 Cprossu we'll discuss it as we take it apart
06:55 Cprossu didn't even let them turn it on.
06:55 Cprossu here's a box, take it apart.
06:56 Cprossu they got to learn what a bitch it was to pull a AT motherboard out and eventually put it back in
06:56 pegasus lots of cables, other than that i've never been particularly bothered by it
06:57 pegasus the thing that i hate is the neato-keen snap-together cases that you have to take a hammer to, to get them apart
06:57 Cprossu I reset the jumpers after they left
06:57 Cprossu sadly some of the motherboards had ledgends on them
06:57 pegasus just give me a side-panel and i'm a happy camper
06:57 Cprossu but they still had to figure out what they meant.
06:58 Cprossu so after they set the jumpers to the hardware they had on the motherboard
06:58 pegasus please appreciate how much i'm not being a grammar nazi right now.
06:58 Cprossu no problem
06:58 Cprossu I could be much better at this if I wanted to
06:58 Cprossu but I need to express my compassion
06:58 Cprossu for what evil things I did
06:58 pegasus go nuts, just appreciate my restraint.
06:58 Cprossu pffft.
06:59 Cprossu So they learned to identify pin 1, what the stripes on the ribbon cables meant, what each port and controller card was for, and why polarity mattered on LED's
07:00 Cprossu . So we got to the power supply
07:00 Cprossu back then it was rather easy to put the plugs in backwards.
07:00 pegasus my ex-wife put a floppy power cable in upside down and caught her computer on fire
07:00 Cprossu so I taught them the black to black rule,  and the best technician to come out of that class
07:00 pegasus raw talent.
07:00 Cprossu pegasus I have a few good ones on that
07:01 Cprossu so black to black rule.
07:01 Cprossu and he asked why you can't put it on backwards
07:01 Cprossu so I said "The power supply will blow up-"  I got cut off.
07:01 Cprossu what I WAS going to say
07:02 Cprossu was "But most power supplies these days will just shut off on you"
07:02 Cprossu but I didn't get that far because
07:02 Cprossu "BANG!"
07:02 pegasus hahahah
07:02 Cprossu the primary caps in the supply blew out, smoke stacks came from the board
07:02 Cprossu man it was killer
07:03 pegasus "OH GOOD JOB, YOU LET THE MAGIC SMOKE OUT"
07:03 Cprossu The theory of magic smoke came later.
07:03 Cprossu they were too green to laugh at it then
07:04 Cprossu so getting back to floppy connectors
07:04 Cprossu there's a horrible thing you can do with one
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07:04 Cprossu you know how they are 12-G-G-5 right?
07:04 Cprossu well often the connectors on nearly everything have the 2 middle pins common.
07:05 Cprossu this isn't an issue with the big 4 pin molex
07:05 Cprossu but on a floppy connector, it's really easy to move it over 1 pin.
07:05 Cprossu if you short out 12 it usually doesn't do any damage, but if you short out 5.....
07:05 Cprossu the power supply generally doesn't shut down.
07:06 Cprossu and you know about how evil the 5volt rail is on a computer psu right pegasus?
07:06 wannabe1987 i dont' know what to do....
07:06 pegasus depends on the PSU
07:06 Cprossu a 250watt AT power supply just for starters
07:07 pegasus a crappy old AT like you're talking about above, i imagine it'd be a problem either way
07:07 pegasus wanna: what's the problem
07:07 Cprossu it's a problem with any power supply
07:07 Cprossu http://s3.amazonaws.com/kpsurplus_images/d0​77d8412503528de9b380ae83a2d8631a0afda9.jpg
07:07 Cprossu ^ a standard 250watt ATX for an example
07:07 Cprossu see the issue about the 5v rail?
07:08 pegasus i know a few of them, at least, have isolated rails for each wire and crazy switched everything
07:08 pegasus you wire anything wrong and that wire just shuts off
07:08 Cprossu think about this carefully.
07:08 pegasus nice, 26A on the 5v rail
07:08 Cprossu how much current do you have to draw for it to be considered an issue.
07:09 Cprossu for overcurrent protection
07:09 pegasus i'd think ~27A
07:09 Cprossu basically yes
07:09 Cprossu now think of that small ass floppy wire
07:09 Cprossu the wire ends up being the limiting factor.
07:09 pegasus yep
07:09 pegasus could well be what she did, i didn't do a whole lot of forensics on the charred remains
07:10 CaptainNiobe|AFK i are back... lol... finally...
07:10 Cprossu no way in hell you're getting 135watts out of that tiny ass wire and connector
07:10 Cprossu *or rather through it*
07:11 pegasus a decent PSU, though, would go ahead and put a reset-on-power-up breaker on each 5v line, though. should be able to make a solid-state one relatively tiny.
07:11 Cprossu that adds cost.
07:11 pegasus i did say decent
07:11 pegasus your cheap PSU deserves the bin anyway :D
07:11 Cprossu remember they use shared voltage regulation on 90% of the psu's you saw
07:11 wannabe1987 hi CaptainNiobe
07:11 Cprossu even good power supplies still use group voltage regulation
07:11 pegasus back in the 90s, i'd say 100%
07:11 CaptainNiobe hey wannabe1987 :)
07:12 pegasus nowadays maybe 80%
07:12 * CaptainNiobe curses hsbne's rollerdoor
07:12 Cprossu but still the point is that there are supplies that do have it and their overcurrent protection can sometimes trip due to a motherboard's requirements.
07:13 Cprossu so burning into a pile of char vs. working is a thin line
07:13 Cprossu but yeah
07:13 Cprossu BANG!
07:13 pegasus http://www.antec.com/Believe​_it/product.php?id=MTc2MA== -- ftw.
07:14 Cprossu antec screwed me hardcore.
07:14 CaptainNiobe Cprossu, i wish that would happen to our door controller so we could get a new one lol
07:14 pegasus what'd they do to you?
07:14 Cprossu Antec Truepower.
07:14 Cprossu and Smartpower
07:14 pegasus what'd they do to you?
07:14 Cprossu I had 15 of their PSU's die and they refused to replace any
07:15 pegasus ooh, ouch
07:15 Cprossu nor would they admit
07:15 Cprossu that they had a design defect
07:15 Cprossu (fuhjyyu capacitors)
07:15 Cprossu so if I use an antec it's one I paid all of $5 for
07:15 pegasus in that case may i recommend http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/P​roduct.aspx?C=1245&amp;ID=2061
07:16 Cprossu I'll never intentionally buy an Antec PSU ever again
07:16 Cprossu Antec cases though
07:16 Cprossu I love.
07:16 Cprossu but I will never ever ever
07:16 Cprossu buy another one of their power supplies.
07:16 wannabe1987 :sigh:
07:16 pegasus wanna: what's your quandary
07:17 wannabe1987 boy.
07:17 wannabe1987 x-bf issues
07:17 pegasus what's the issue, he's an ex, issues complete
07:17 wannabe1987 he's mkaing me move out, thankfully a friend had told me 15 min before to put gas in my car and come live with her
07:17 wannabe1987 pegasus we live together?
07:17 pegasus well there you go then
07:18 pegasus living with ex = issue, moving out = solution
07:18 wannabe1987 i have too much "stuff" and can't take it all in one trip.  THERES my issue...whats he gonna do with my shit when i'm not here?
07:18 Cprossu http://filedb.experts-exchange.com/incomi​ng/2010/01_w02/219232/ANTEC-True-380.JPG
07:19 * pegasus refrains from multiple obvious comments
07:19 wannabe1987 my friend has a 1 bedroom apt....i'm taking the couch
07:19 wannabe1987 he says he won't chuck it....
07:19 pegasus take what matters most, leave the rest behind.
07:19 CaptainNiobe wannabe, can you leave it at your parents' for the timebeing?
07:19 wannabe1987 food, clothing, electronics matter most....i have a 4 door car, thankfully
07:19 wannabe1987 my parents house is about the same distance as my friends house
07:19 Cprossu if I pay $130 for a power supply I expect it to come with good tech support if anything goes wrong
07:20 pegasus you can buy more food, you'd only eat it anyway
07:20 Cprossu enermax has never given me a bad psu so I couldn't say about them, and corsair's been good to me when I've had a problem.
07:20 Cprossu I am really liking how those XFX psu's look though
07:20 pegasus clothes don't matter that much either, as long as you have access to laundry and a week's worth
07:20 wannabe1987 pegasus i don't have more food money for this month....i only have 10 bucks right now, 5 on my card....
07:20 Cprossu well the appearance not so much, the insides yes.
07:21 wannabe1987 but i have a job interview coming up i need to wear good nice clothing for
07:21 pegasus then take a nice outfit too
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07:22 wannabe1987 i don't feel like sleeping...i feel like packing....
07:22 wannabe1987 i should clean out my trunk too, to fit more stuff in it
07:22 pegasus and if by "this month" you mean september, you're kind of fucked in the food department regardless
07:22 wannabe1987 till the 19th
07:22 wannabe1987 but trust me when i say i have LOTS of food
07:22 wannabe1987 like 2 18gallon rubbermaid totes full
07:22 wannabe1987 o.O
07:23 wannabe1987 maybe more....
07:23 pegasus the last time i had housing issues that severe, ramen cost $0.10/each
07:23 wannabe1987 ewww ramen
07:24 wannabe1987 i'm a cook.  i like to eat nicly
07:24 wannabe1987 nicely
07:24 pegasus 17 days worth would cost $3.40
07:24 wannabe1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.c​om/2011/08/breakfast-hash.html  like this and other things on my website
07:24 pegasus that's fine for when you have the money
07:24 pegasus you have to prioritize to save the things that matter at the moment
07:25 pegasus think long-term and forego the nice things in the short term for the important things long-term
07:25 Cprossu oh so some asshole was trying to seel one of my customers a solar system for his house
07:25 Cprossu and stated that he needed an inverter 'that could stand up to 185 celcius'
07:25 pegasus 356F
07:25 Cprossu yeah. heh
07:25 wannabe1987 i have pork tenderloin in the freezer, 3 lbs of beef, fish, two types of fish, actually, cheese, ice cream and other quickly melting things that i'll leave here....bread, bananas, hot dogs (leave hear), OJ (leave), pork sausage (one to leave, cuz its HOT), and so on and so forth.  o and kebabs i'm taking with me....
07:26 wannabe1987 and thats just the freezer
07:26 pegasus well, copper doesn't melt until 1084C
07:26 Cprossu he was also trying to sell him a "KVAR energy saver"
07:27 Cprossu and 'silver shielding'?
07:27 Cprossu and 'duct sealing'
07:27 pegasus aluminum at 660C, but burns colder than that
07:27 Cprossu so I called him on being a snake oil salesman
07:27 CaptainNiobe wannabe, pegasus is right, prioritise your feed... whatever you've got, taking or leaving, if you run  out, regardless of what you like, you then eat to survive, even things you don't like...
07:27 pegasus some things matter, some things don't
07:27 Cprossu surviving on ramen isn't really...surviving though hehhehe
07:28 pegasus ramen & vitamins & walking everywhere i went (which was often) = i gained weight
07:28 pegasus you can survive just fine.
07:28 CaptainNiobe ramen is food, doesn't matter if it isn't nutritious, in teh short term it's about not starving
07:28 Cprossu the vitamins woulda helped
07:29 wannabe1987 i don't need to gain weight...
07:29 wannabe1987 trust me guys, food is the least of my worries now
07:29 pegasus ramen = calories and staving off the hunger pains, honestly
07:29 pegasus for nutrition i had a generic multivitamin from wal*mart
07:30 pegasus as close to 100% USRDA of everything as i could get
07:30 wannabe1987 my mom gave me my vitamins back
07:30 wannabe1987 and i couldn't buy some if i had to anyway....they're not covered on food stamps...
07:30 pegasus and then water and lots and lots of walking
07:30 pegasus and it was the exercise that actually caused me to gain weight, i put on a lot of muscle
07:31 CaptainNiobe ahh... pegasus... that's isn't putting on weight, that's toning up :P
07:31 wannabe1987 lol
07:31 pegasus i had more grams. :b
07:31 CaptainNiobe still not considered "gaining weight" lol
07:32 pegasus ask cprossu about weight. we had a lovely discussion about it earlier. brb.
07:32 CaptainNiobe lol
07:32 CaptainNiobe dare i, Cprossu? :P
07:33 Cprossu haha
07:33 Cprossu we were more discussing mass vs weight
07:33 CaptainNiobe ahh
07:33 Cprossu and why wolfram was giving a result that wasn't useful
07:34 CaptainNiobe ? wolfram?
07:34 Cprossu .wa 50g weight on mars
07:34 Cprossu wolfram alpha
07:34 BotSteve Mars->weight;0.0417 lbf  (pounds-force);185 mN  (millinewtons);0.185 N  (newtons);18500 dynes,  (unit officially deprecated);18.9 ponds;0.0189 kp  (kiloponds);Mass m of a body from w = mg:, ->0.0013 slugs, ->19 grams
07:34 CaptainNiobe ahh, the botsteve thing
07:34 Cprossu no it's more than a botsteve thing
07:34 Cprossu http://www.wolframalpha.com/
07:36 Cprossu so yes it would take a 19g weight's weight on mars to be equivalent to a 50g weight's weight
07:36 Cprossu but that's not really what was asked.
07:36 CaptainNiobe i'll check it out another time, i'm still cursing at this rollerdoor failing to open yet again...
07:36 Cprossu or was that the other way around
07:37 Cprossu either way a 50g mass on mars is 50g on earth
07:39 CaptainNiobe weight is subjective to gravitational fields, earth gravity is know as 1... mars, i believe, has a lesser gravitational influence, so the lesser weight simply applies to that, BASED ON earth's "1" gravity... if it were based on mars' gravity, the results here would be heavier... that's all... it's perception and the recognised measurement (which is earth's gravity)
07:39 Cprossu the issue is the fact it's in grams.
07:40 Cprossu nothing more.
07:40 CaptainNiobe ?
07:40 Cprossu 19grams is not a weight
07:40 Cprossu as in it does not factor in the force of gravity
07:41 Cprossu that's one thing that differentiates lbs from grams
07:41 * wannabe1987 is happy to be moving out....i cause drama, did you know that?
07:42 CaptainNiobe i don't see how it's any different... else it would be the same with pounds and kilograms...
07:43 Cprossu ok F=M*A right.
07:43 Cprossu for the most part
07:43 Cprossu until you get 3/4 the speed of light at least
07:44 pegasus weight = mass * acceleration of gravity
07:44 Cprossu yes.
07:44 * CaptainNiobe just got lost
07:44 Cprossu 9.8 M/s^2 is the acceleration due to gravity follow
07:44 pegasus mars gravity = 12.2 ft/s^2, earth = 32.2 ft/s^2
07:44 Cprossu weight in lbs however.
07:44 Cprossu includes this.
07:45 Cprossu anything measured in grams is a 'mass'
07:45 Cprossu as opposed to a weight.
07:45 pegasus if you prefer metric, mars gravity = 3.71 m/s^2
07:45 Cprossu the point is if I asked it in lbs it would be correct.
07:45 pegasus but for equivalence, mars(19g) == earth(50g)
07:46 Cprossu but it's not.
07:46 pegasus where mars() and earth() return weight
07:46 Cprossu the weight is
07:46 Cprossu equivalient
07:46 Cprossu the mass is not
07:47 Cprossu .wa .11lb weight on mars
07:47 pegasus Niobe: weight is a measure of the force required to keep an object at a certain height away from the center of mass of a body of gravitational influence
07:47 BotSteve Mars->weight;0.04161 lbf  (pounds-force);185.1 mN  (millinewtons);0.1851 N  (newtons);18511 dynes,  (unit officially deprecated);18.88 ponds;0.01888 kp  (kiloponds);Mass m of a body from w = mg:, ->0.0013 slugs, ->19 grams
07:47 pegasus it's a term of acceleration between two bodies of given masses
07:48 Cprossu ^ the problem is that it thinks I am asking ^this question
07:48 pegasus weight varies depending on both objects, mass does not
07:48 CaptainNiobe so simplify it for me (not my area lol)... similier to net weight of a box of cereal, riight? the weight, in grams, signifies the amount of content in the box instead of actual weight, so the box might weigh the same, but the amount of contents varies... right? (probs over simplifying things, but that makes sense to me lol)
07:48 Cprossu or rather the forces which act upon each object pegasus
07:49 Cprossu yes CaptainNiobe
07:49 pegasus cprossu is of the opinion that wolfram alpha is just plain wrong rather than oversimplified for the easy consumption of data by the luddite masses
07:49 Cprossu so if I had 2 boxes of cereal with the 'same mass'
07:49 Cprossu the one on mars would 'weigh less'
07:50 pegasus i'm of the opinion that people are stupid, and wolfram alpha is just answering the question that most people would mean, rather than the technical question answered (which it actually does answer in the same results)
07:50 Cprossu but would contain the exact same mass.
07:50 * CaptainNiobe feels decidedly dumb at the moment
07:51 pegasus the question that i'm annoyed it can't answer is http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=re​lative+mass+of+a+50g+object+at+1%2F2+c
07:52 pegasus it understands 1/2 c just fine, but not the concept of relative mass, apparently
07:53 Cprossu if you were to eat the same exact size cereal package on either planet you'd get the same amount of calories out of it, it's mass would be the same, but it would weigh less on mars. it doesn't lose any of it's 'content' just by being acted on by differing forces. make sense CaptainNiobe?
07:54 pegasus so cprossu, are you familiar with the juno space probe?
07:55 Cprossu nope
07:55 pegasus the juno space probe is a craft launched last month, i think, on a 5 year cruise to jupiter
07:55 CaptainNiobe yeah, but that kinda *does* come back to weight and perception of weight... what i said earlier, it ONLY weighs less on mars because of human perception that earth's gravity is equal to 1, and marss gravity is less... doesn't it? i already knew mass didn't decrease because of various gravitational influences...
07:55 Cprossu I stopped following things about 4 years ago space program wise
07:55 Cprossu no, it actually does weigh less.
07:56 pegasus next year sometime it's going to come around in its solar orbit to grab a slingshot speed boost from earth to fling it out on its final approach to jupiter
07:56 Cprossu CaptainNiobe force of gravity is a 'real' force
07:56 pegasus the thing that gets me is, we keep doing this
07:56 Cprossu but it's exceptionally weak.
07:57 pegasus every time we give a little bit of our momentum to a probe to get it out of its orbit like this, we lose a little bit of our momentum
07:57 Cprossu it's such a weak force that the entire freaking planet's mass doesn't keep you from jumping off of it CaptainNiobe
07:57 pegasus given the differences in masses, it's very small, but the thing is, eventually, if we keep doing it, we'll lose enough to alter our orbit to the point that we'll start noticing
07:58 Cprossu pegasus eathquakes fuck up more than that
07:58 pegasus earthquakes fuck up our rotation, not our orbit
07:58 Cprossu the more dense a region is the more it screws up our orbit too
07:58 Cprossu remember we are on a tilted axis
07:58 Cprossu the tilted axis is why we can survive on this planet.
07:58 CaptainNiobe i know, but what matters is perception of a recognised measurement... i think mars' gravity is like.38 of earth's gravity (not sure), but the point is, it's .38 of EARTH'S gravity... it's perception... we perceive it as less because of earth's measurement of 1 gravity being the standard... or that's how i see it...
07:59 Cprossu I ignore that '1' standard myself
07:59 Cprossu because it's all relative anyway
07:59 pegasus 1G = 32.2f/s/s
07:59 pegasus accelerating upward at 32f/s/s = 2G
08:00 pegasus iirc astronauts get 4G at launch
08:00 pegasus might be more
08:00 CaptainNiobe maybe that's how we coulda crossed wires, i use 1 as the recognised measurement... lol...
08:00 Cprossu technically we can just say 9.8 m/s^2
08:01 pegasus m/s/s = m/s^2
08:01 Cprossu yep
08:01 pegasus according to this site it's 1.7g
08:01 Cprossu just m/s * 1/s = m/2^2
08:02 * CaptainNiobe is lost yet again
08:02 pegasus ah
08:02 CaptainNiobe lol
08:02 pegasus 3g at final burn
08:03 pegasus Niobe: just algebra. x/y/y = x/y^2
08:03 pegasus exponentiation of the denominator is the same as multiple divisions
08:03 Cprossu so much easier to produce g's with a rocket sled and a big ass concrete wall.
08:03 CaptainNiobe lol... i never completed year nine, so never did any of that
08:03 Cprossu if you catch my drift.
08:04 CaptainNiobe i think top gear did the rocket and concrete wall lol
08:04 Cprossu vectors are fun.
08:05 pegasus https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/J​ohn_Paul_Stapp#Works_on_effects_of_deceleration
08:05 Cprossu wait.
08:05 Cprossu deceleration?!
08:05 Cprossu XD
08:06 * CaptainNiobe makes a mental note not to get involved in any more technical chats in this channel
08:06 pegasus 46.2G, walked away
08:06 Cprossu kinda of amazing too
08:06 Cprossu there was also a guy on a different nasa testing note
08:06 Cprossu who survived being in a vacuum after his pressurized suit failed and decompressed
08:06 pegasus "walked away" after rehab and all that.
08:07 Cprossu and by walked away I mean after he gained conciousness again
08:08 pegasus "At NASA's Manned Spacecraft Center (now renamed Johnson Space Center) we had a test subject accidentally exposed to a near vacuum (less than 1 psi) in an incident involving a leaking space suit in a vacuum chamber back in '65. He remained conscious for about 14 seconds, which is about the time it takes for O2 deprived blood to go from the lungs to the brain. The suit probably did not reach a hard vacuum,
08:08 pegasus "... consciousness at around 15,000 feet equivalent altitude. The subject later reported that he could feel and hear the air leaking out, and his last conscious memory was of the water on his tongue beginning to boil."
08:08 pegasus http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/doc​s/ask_astro/answers/970603.html
08:08 Cprossu ok close enough anyway
08:08 Cprossu didn't sound like fun
08:09 pegasus water on the tongue boiling = more than close enough
08:11 wannabe1987 i still get to make a version of http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%​2F%2Fphoodinyoface.blogspot.com%2F2011%2​F08%2Fbreakfast-hash.html&amp;h=EAQBc0fq​TAQDXnsQVxTy73RQYI3VeOH65HHxWUPeLErkDRQ for dinner tho.... nothing in there is what my friend is deathly allergic to :)
08:13 pegasus oh wow
08:13 pegasus after being exposed to vacuum you go temporarily blind
08:13 pegasus as long as your heart keeps ticking, you'll survive
08:17 pegasus "An explosive or rapid decompression will cut this time in half due to the startle factor and the accelerated rate at which an adrenaline-soaked body burns oxygen."
08:25 wannabe1987 i just got drew up cuz max poo'd on the floor in teh bedroom EWWWWW it smells bad
08:25 wannabe1987 and i should go to bed......
08:26 pegasus nice, one of the fatal things about exposure to vacuum is that the gas in the intestines expands possibly to the point of putting enough pressure on the vagus nerve that you get a heart attack
08:28 pegasus so when exposed to vacuum, 1) breathe out, 2) let the farts go.
08:29 wannabe1987 night guys
08:29 wannabe1987 big day tomorrow
08:29 CaptainNiobe night wannabe, sleep well
08:32 pegasus decompression math: http://www.geoffreylandis.com/higgins.html
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08:33 pegasus disregards the possible effects of condensation and freezing occuring in the hull rupture, slowing down the vent
08:45 Cprossu well I am out tonight
08:45 Cprossu later all
08:48 Cprossu .- -. -..  .-. . -- . -- -... . .-.  -... .  ... ..- .-. .  - ---  -.. .-. .. -. -.-  -.-- --- ..- .-.  --- ...- .- .-.. - .. -. .
08:50 NeWtoz heh
08:51 NeWtoz for a brief second I wanted chocolate milk
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08:59 pegasus my client split up the D and as a result i got "AND REMEMBER BE SURE TO TIRINK YOUR OVALTINE"
09:05 NeWtoz I just used a bot from another channel
09:05 NeWtoz I cheated
09:06 * NeWtoz goes back to work
09:17 pegasus http://i.imgur.com/AQBgI.jpg
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09:40 pegasus https://encrypted.google.com/search?q="Chris+Jeon"&tbm=nws
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10:33 BearZahn hi all
10:34 CaptainNiobe hi again... might be quiet here atm, they're mostly in america
10:35 BearZahn k
10:35 BearZahn what is the time over there at present
10:36 CaptainNiobe uhh... early morning i think... not sure, but something like 2am or something...
10:36 pegasus 6:36am eastern time
10:37 pegasus 3:36am pacific
10:37 BearZahn well I would still be in bed too
10:37 CaptainNiobe there you go :P thanks, pegasus :)
10:43 pegasus hm.
10:44 CaptainNiobe hmm?
10:44 pegasus noticing that freenode's network structure is completely hidden
10:44 CaptainNiobe i don't think you can ping them, either
10:45 pegasus $ ping hubbard.freenode.net
10:45 pegasus PING hubbard.freenode.net (128.237.157.136) 56(84) bytes of data.
10:45 pegasus 64 bytes from HUBBARD.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU (128.237.157.136): icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=47.2 ms
10:45 CaptainNiobe i meant on the command window lol
10:45 pegasus i don't think you can ping a specific server, no
10:46 pegasus but you can ping a user on that server with CTCP and ping your server with a raw ping command
10:46 pegasus i'm 0.145425s away from my server
10:47 pegasus brb
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10:48 pegasus and now i'm 0.014915s from my server. so better.
10:48 pegasus http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml
10:50 CaptainNiobe i'm just on pidgin, i let it connect for me... lol...
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11:01 yNos hey all
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11:02 Y_Dirani hello all
11:03 Y_Dirani I'm interested in Electrical Installatino
11:03 Y_Dirani Installation*
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11:05 Y_Dirani !
11:05 Y_Dirani nobody answers
11:15 yNos it is still early in the day around here
11:15 yNos gone...
11:15 yNos hrm
11:33 CaptainNiobe hey yNos... don't worry, i'm still here even if some are too rude the fiind out what time it is before pissing off...
11:34 pegasus it's time to play the record again
11:34 pegasus http://pegasus.pimpninjas.​org/PLAY%20IT%20AGAIN.mp3
11:34 * CaptainNiobe is not in a good enough mood for it
11:37 yNos whay?
11:37 yNos i will have to check it out a bit later
11:37 yNos **what
11:37 CaptainNiobe i have no idea... i've been somewhat irritable for days :-\
11:38 yNos oh?
11:38 * pegasus slips niobe a small plastic zip-loc bag
11:38 yNos Need to take a solid BM?
11:38 CaptainNiobe ?
11:38 pegasus ...oregano.
11:39 yNos ahh
11:39 CaptainNiobe still ?
11:39 yNos .g BM
11:39 BotSteve yNos: http://www.urbandictionary​.com/define.php?term=B%20M
11:39 CaptainNiobe oh... lol... no... that's taken care of lol
11:40 yNos OK
11:40 yNos not going for days would make most anyone irritable
11:41 CaptainNiobe lol... that's an understatement, that would be freaking painful... lol...
11:43 CaptainNiobe i don't think it's monthly stuff either, i don't get irritable for days on end at that... bessides, it's not due again yet lol
11:43 pegasus try the oregano.
11:43 pegasus it's delicious.
11:43 CaptainNiobe what would that do?
11:43 yNos hmm.. oregano spagetti
11:44 yNos sometimes oregano is just oregano... right now is not one of those times.
11:44 CaptainNiobe huh?
11:44 pegasus best answer ever.
11:47 pegasus relevant: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzEio_1trro
11:49 yNos also relevant: http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/moto​rists-grab-free-marijuana-after-truck-crashes.html
11:49 pegasus nice.
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12:58 tlockley morning
13:00 tonsofpcs oh california, you're so socialist you even have free pot day
13:05 tlockley lol
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13:38 yNos http://www.facebook.com/cbailey4
13:38 yNos oop
13:38 yNos wrong window
13:38 yNos well, in case anyone wondered...
13:38 yNos thats me..
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13:55 producerbill I feel like crap
13:55 BotSteve producerbill: I have the following messages for you:
13:55 BotSteve At 29 Aug 22:47Z, astro73|derrial asked me to tell producerbill that I apparently need to discuss MPK
13:56 yNos did you hurt your back again?
13:56 producerbill yes and neck
13:57 producerbill do you know how to leave a message form someone?
13:59 yNos erm
13:59 yNos botsteve tell producerbill this is how its done
13:59 yNos botsteve: tell producerbill this is how its done
13:59 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when producerbill is around.
14:00 yNos like that?
14:00 yNos or on the forum?
14:00 yNos http://verydemotivational.memebase.c​om/category/hall-of-fame/#post-53012
14:02 * yNos *YAY*
14:02 yNos thinder!
14:02 yNos **thunder
14:04 wannabe1987 i love thunder.  kzoo isn't getting storms tho
14:04 producerbill botsteve:  tell astro73 ok I am at the lab Mon, Wed,Fri after 5. sat after 1 normally or you can email me at death.star.lag@gmail.com
14:04 BotSteve producerbill: I'll pass that on when astro73 is around.
14:04 BotSteve producerbill: I have the following messages for you:
14:04 pegasus i suddenly have an urge to give a bunch of monkeys a bunch of guns and ammo just to see how long it would take them to learn to use them.
14:04 BotSteve RuntimeError: dictionary changed size during iteration (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-​botsteve/modules/tell.py", line 40, in dumpReminders)
14:04 BotSteve At 13:59Z, yNos asked me to tell producerbill this is how its done
14:05 producerbill I like that idea.
14:05 pegasus once you show them a few times, they figure most tools out
14:07 pegasus of course it would also be amusing to teach one gorilla to fix watches
14:07 producerbill I wonder if we could get a grant from the national science foundation to try it.
14:07 pegasus guns or watches
14:07 pegasus i think most monkey species are officially listed endangered
14:08 pegasus apes too
14:08 producerbill well the project would start with a breading program
14:08 producerbill lol
14:08 pegasus mmmm...breaded monkey...
14:09 producerbill after all we will need replacements for the follow up study.
14:09 pegasus we'll have to use a beer batter, and i'm not sure what kind of oil we'd fry them in
14:09 producerbill lol,,,, that and to make sandwich from.
14:10 producerbill lol I knew you where on the same page.
14:11 pegasus ooh, or, we could do a breeding program, show them monkey porn, and make them have lots of kinky monkey sex
14:11 pegasus bobo's such a slut. totally gagging for it.
14:12 yNos lorf
14:12 yNos you'd touch yourself while watchign that, wouldnt you?
14:12 pegasus what kind of a pervert do you take me for
14:13 wannabe1987 .......
14:13 wannabe1987 this goes in #tgg_NSFW
14:13 pegasus ohai wanna
14:13 pegasus are you 12 and what is this?
14:14 wannabe1987 pegasus you didn't sleep...so you must not be in america
14:14 pegasus east coast, i'll sleep soon
14:14 wannabe1987 i'm not twelve, but thats what masterofmonks would say, or so would batsteve
14:14 wannabe1987 o.O
14:14 wannabe1987 you were up all night....
14:14 pegasus correct
14:14 wannabe1987 i just got up...5 hours of sleep!
14:14 wannabe1987 i'm moving today....
14:16 pegasus http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/im-​twelve-years-old-and-what-is-this
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14:16 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
14:17 wannabe1987 hi captn
14:19 yNos yoyo
14:20 yNos CaptainBoden: so when does the weekend o'HV begin?
14:21 * Hackbat is freaking tired
14:21 CaptainNiobe i'm glad chris is called chris and not niobe/rachael lol
14:22 wannabe1987 Hackbat why?
14:23 Hackbat well my arms are atleast, was holing up one of those segmented coat hangers things while I screwed it into the wall with a ratcheting screwdriver
14:23 Hackbat *holding
14:24 wannabe1987 ah
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14:26 wannabe1987 hi mashpriborintorg
14:26 mashpriborintorg hi
14:26 mashpriborintorg wow faster than light wannabe1987
14:27 Hackbat next I need to hang my speakers, and set up my stereo
14:27 wannabe1987 lol my computer is fast this AM :P
14:39 yNos pegasus: join #tgg_NSFW
14:39 tonsofpcs ok, deep button research time!
14:39 tonsofpcs Hackbat: hang your speakers?
14:41 Hackbat on the wall
14:47 tonsofpcs I hope you mean "attached to the wall, but on platforms off the wall so that they have space behind them"
14:49 wannabe1987 why
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15:18 MadManMarkAu God dammit, google
15:18 MadManMarkAu "arduino stack overwrites heap"
15:18 MadManMarkAu It takes that as 'arduino "stack overflow" cheap'
15:18 ajprog_laptop Cprossu: ??
15:19 SparkyProjects Did you use quotes around the search term ?
15:19 MadManMarkAu I had to use 'arduino "stack" "overwrites" "heap"' to get it to work >_<
15:20 SparkyProjects ah, ok
15:20 pegasus single segment memory model?
15:21 MadManMarkAu .g single segment memory model
15:21 BotSteve MadManMarkAu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Memory_Model
15:22 MadManMarkAu Ah, no
15:22 MadManMarkAu It's... berkley?
15:22 MadManMarkAu Data+stack in RAM, program in ROM, same address space
15:22 pegasus single segment = old CP/M and DOS (for .COM programs) memory model where the stack and the code and any overlay were in the same segment
15:22 MadManMarkAu Ah, yeah
15:22 MadManMarkAu I understand .com
15:23 MadManMarkAu ".tiny" directive :P
15:23 pegasus you could still access the MS-DOS equivalent of malloc and grab another segment for your stack pointer, though
15:23 pegasus which is what you'll have to do on the arduino if that's the problem you're having
15:23 MadManMarkAu There was an interrupt routine for that, iirc
15:23 pegasus yes
15:24 MadManMarkAu THe arduino only has 2K of ram
15:24 MadManMarkAu The heap starts at $0000
15:24 MadManMarkAu The stack grows downwards, and starts at $1FFF
15:24 pegasus i wrote a bit of code a few years ago out of boredom that displayed a bitmap image at 320x240 and the stack chewed up the end of the bitmap overlay
15:24 MadManMarkAu 2K? Hang on
15:25 MadManMarkAu Bleh, can't remember how much RAM
15:25 pegasus pissed me off, i had to come up with some clever tomfoolery to get around that
15:25 pegasus probably 2MB, 2k is really tiny
15:25 MadManMarkAu Huh, wow
15:25 MadManMarkAu Oh, no, NOWHERE near 2Mb
15:25 MadManMarkAu It's a 64K address space
15:25 MadManMarkAu But only something like 8K installed
15:26 pegasus hm.
15:27 pegasus well if you've only got the single segment to work with, malloc() isn't going to help you.
15:27 pegasus you're going to have to squeeze the system to make it fit
15:28 pegasus use the stack less, make the code/overlay smaller
15:30 MadManMarkAu Hrm
15:30 MadManMarkAu Dammit
15:30 MadManMarkAu I want to add external RAM to I han put the heap on external and let the internal SRAM be the stack
15:30 MadManMarkAu But nooo, the Arduino wasn't built withthat in mind :<
15:30 pegasus if you're actually calling functions or ISRs (assuming the arduino has such things), don't. inline everything, push nothing, accept data destruction, figure out how to work around it
15:31 pegasus use every register, even if you use it wrong
15:31 MadManMarkAu Hrm, ok, I'll make do
15:44 wannabe1987 http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/08/29/​astronomers-discover-planet-made-diamond/  planet made of diamond?
15:44 yNos a carbon planet with high gravity.. from itself or a nearby planet or star?
15:46 wannabe1987 i dunno
15:46 wannabe1987 didn't read the article
15:47 pegasus from itself
15:47 pegasus and the neutron star it orbits, but it's supposed to be the size of jupiter and pure carbon
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15:57 SparkyProjects Is it even spherical ?
15:57 SparkyProjects If not i wonder if it's dimensions are 1 x 4 x 9
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15:58 wannabe1987 job interview tuesday :D
15:59 SparkyProjects Good luckk with that :)
15:59 MadManMarkAu Good lick
15:59 MadManMarkAu Erm, luck
16:00 wannabe1987 lick!
16:00 wannabe1987 :P
16:00 wannabe1987 thanks
16:05 * exor674 licks wannabe1987?
16:06 * wannabe1987 pets cat?
16:06 * yNos is a dirty, dirty boy
16:06 * yNos goes to take a shower
16:06 ajprog_laptop yNos: what is the best nuke hd program
16:06 wannabe1987 ...
16:06 yNos dd
16:07 ajprog_laptop ??
16:07 yNos i dont know of any clicky apps..
16:07 MadManMarkAu hehe, nice yNos
16:07 MadManMarkAu dd is a block copy program
16:07 yNos dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/YOURDISK bs=2048
16:07 MadManMarkAu dd /dev/random /dec/dha
16:08 MadManMarkAu Heh, I was close
16:08 ajprog_laptop I don't want a clicky app, I want a bootable nuke hard cd
16:08 yNos if is in dile
16:08 yNos if is in file
16:08 yNos of is out file
16:08 yNos bs is block size
16:08 CaptainNiobe goodnight everyone, bedtime for meh... :)
16:08 yNos g'night
16:08 MadManMarkAu nini CaptainNairobi
16:09 yNos any linux boot disk will have it.
16:09 yNos you run ubuntu there, right?
16:09 yNos on your laptop?
16:09 * wannabe1987 gently tackle hugs exor674
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16:09 exor674 -yay!
16:09 ajprog_laptop ok
16:10 yNos if so, use a usb/ide adapter
16:10 yNos do it right there.
16:11 ajprog_laptop yep that will work
16:16 yNos MadManMarkAu: you have used dd before?
16:16 yNos on an ibm maybe?
16:16 yNos or just a stab in the dark?
16:17 MadManMarkAu I did "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/dsp"
16:17 yNos i bet that sounded great
16:17 MadManMarkAu Was awesome
16:17 yNos or was it a sample for a remix?
16:18 MadManMarkAu No, just to see what it sounds like
16:18 MadManMarkAu The old command.com sounds like aviolin at one point
16:18 yNos hashy
16:18 yNos lol
16:19 yNos wanted:frozen lake to run around :D
16:21 yNos ok
16:21 yNos time for shower..
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16:37 wannabe1987 astro73|derrial - thanks.  i need this job badly
16:41 exor674 wannabe1987: what job?
16:41 wannabe1987 nursing job
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16:45 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​QGPUhx8Iyuc&amp;feature=relmfu
16:45 Seroster NO.
16:45 Seroster NO NO NO NO NO.
16:45 Seroster ....NO!
16:48 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​0irMtOieAvk&amp;feature=relmfu
16:48 Seroster NOOOO
16:48 Seroster F...
16:48 Electronics ...
16:48 Seroster CaptainBoden, you REALLY need to make a point by point commentary at those IDIOTIC FUCKING VIDEOS
16:48 Seroster First tool he pulled up was tin snips..
16:48 Seroster FOR ELECTRICAL WORK
16:48 Seroster .....
16:48 * Electronics watches the videos
16:49 Seroster Tin snips and cable cutters before a multimeter and screwdrivers.
16:49 SparkyProjects Why does every electrician need a crescent wrench ?
16:49 Seroster Concidering what else that fucktard got wrong I don't even care about the damn crescent wrench
16:51 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​BdqFaS-hLR8&amp;feature=relmfu << How to shut off the circuit breaker.
16:51 Seroster Right
16:51 Seroster If you don't know that... Why are you fucking around with mains?
16:52 mashpriborintorg yay they are installing old electronics collecting bins in shops
16:52 Electronics woah
16:52 mashpriborintorg already picked up a camcvorder and an air ionizer
16:52 Seroster looool
16:53 mashpriborintorg it's a start since yesterday, Seroster, people are just beginning to put stuff into
16:54 SparkyProjects Seroster, i replied to that breaker changing vid
16:54 Seroster ...Right?
16:54 SparkyProjects Go read it
16:55 Seroster Ah
16:55 Seroster Yeah
16:55 Seroster Maybe you should adress it in a video too xD
16:56 SparkyProjects Maybe it would be best if expert village was shut down :P
16:56 Seroster In fucking deed.
16:57 SparkyProjects To be honest, if someone followed some of the advice given and seriously injured themselves doing it, people could sue EV
16:57 Seroster Just flag for "other dangerous acts"
16:59 SparkyProjects Probably won't get pulled, i've reported the ones with the morobike and childs roundabout, and they are still there
16:59 Seroster If enough people do it it will be taken down eventually
17:00 tonsofpcs Seroster: I think he was actually working on a hot panel in that first one...
17:00 Seroster It's like using your turn indicators while driving off a desert road. You should do it, even if it doesnt make any difference.
17:00 mashpriborintorg last time i was searching led lights demos, I found only vids about how to grow weed :p so yt censorship sucks
17:01 SparkyProjects I'm just looking to see if there is a report user button,all TGG members should click on it
17:01 tonsofpcs flagged.
17:01 tonsofpcs if you get enough videos flagged, they lock you down
17:02 Seroster People flagged the is it a good idea to microwave this - dildo experiment.
17:02 tonsofpcs lol romex strippers
17:02 Seroster The "Is it a good idea to microwave a bottle of gin" got flagged too
17:02 mashpriborintorg sure, it's a waste to do so
17:03 tonsofpcs is it a good idea to microwave a bottle of gin?
17:03 Seroster But the difference is that the microwave guys say "Don't try this at home" while the idiotic expertvillage guys say "DO this at home! this is even the proper way to do it!"
17:03 tonsofpcs (I mean, other than the obvious making gin evaporate side effect)
17:03 mashpriborintorg only if the bottle is empty
17:03 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: what happens? superheats?
17:03 SparkyProjects then it wouldn't be a bottle of gin, just a bottle :P
17:04 mashpriborintorg almost nothing i believe
17:04 mashpriborintorg btw the way lightbulbs melt in microwaves is pretty interesting
17:04 tonsofpcs lol @ this one... "AFTER you find out that there's no power there, make sure your breaker is off"
17:05 Seroster It got very warm and blew the cap
17:05 tonsofpcs also he's got metal on both wrists while he's working on these things...
17:05 Seroster mashpriborintorg, Yes, it is very interesting. And that was also flagged.
17:05 tonsofpcs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcgCa6LzVj4
17:05 Seroster Yeah, he's a true genious, tonsofpcs
17:05 Seroster How old are you, 14?
17:05 Seroster You are half his age and at least twice the electrical knowledge.
17:05 mashpriborintorg if there's still power, you found infinite energy source :D
17:06 SparkyProjects Romex looks the same as our 'twin and earth', all i do is use cutters down the end to expose the end of the earth, then grab the earth and use as a ripcord to open the sheath.
17:06 SparkyProjects http://www.tradingdepot.co.uk/external​/commerce/1/gfx/hires/6242YH100100.jpg
17:06 mashpriborintorg or just be wrong breaker
17:06 Seroster Yes indeed, SparkyProjects.
17:06 Seroster But I use the neutral
17:06 Seroster If I kill a part of the cable I want the ground to be the undamaged one
17:07 Seroster Ah, THAT kind.
17:07 mashpriborintorg this particular cable design is unusual here
17:07 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: eh, you can do it with cable cutters with a bit of skill.  (Romex is all solid core)
17:07 Seroster It's illegal here. =P
17:07 tonsofpcs Seroster: what is?
17:07 mashpriborintorg never seen it IRL actually
17:08 SparkyProjects I actually use the cutters to grab the earth, so once i get the length i need exposed, i cut off the damaged bit
17:08 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=lNaCgwFcFA8&amp;NR=1
17:08 tonsofpcs I don't know anyone who is a fan of romex...
17:09 Seroster I have no problem with romex
17:09 SparkyProjects He says power runs to ground quicker than through the neutral ?
17:09 tonsofpcs Seroster: would you rather run romex or 3 runs of individual stranded?
17:09 SparkyProjects But trough the ground it has to travel to the nearest transformer :P
17:10 Seroster Yep
17:10 mashpriborintorg Sony DSC-F717: If you can grab one, do it. This awesome digicam was featuring a very unique laser beam AF targeting system. Makes a laser grid on the subject before you shoot.
17:12 Hackbat OH god! Nyan cat progress bar
17:12 Hackbat so awesome
17:12 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​egHkOIr4RNE&amp;feature=relmfu
17:13 Seroster Go directly to 2:13
17:14 Hackbat I think I saw something
17:14 Hackbat but I can't get it back up
17:15 Hackbat nan:nan o.o
17:15 wannabe1987 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2​032230/Mountain-Holland-Engineers-brainst​orm-ideas-jokey-request-journalist.html  lets go build a mountain!
17:15 tonsofpcs lol Seroster
17:15 Hackbat http://instantelevatormusic.com/​download/NyanCatProgressBar.zip :3
17:16 yNos does it play music?
17:16 SparkyProjects I replied to this idiot :P http://www.youtube.com/wat​ch?v=lNaCgwFcFA8&amp;NR=1
17:16 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: qwertyboy on 8x8x8 LED Cube
17:17 Hackbat yes
17:17 tonsofpcs wait, electricity runs to earth?
17:17 Hackbat but you can adjust the volume in the settings
17:17 tonsofpcs always?
17:17 tonsofpcs I thought the point of alternating current was..... (wait for it)... alternating current.
17:17 Seroster DUN DUN DUUUUN!
17:18 tonsofpcs also, in most common DC systems, earth is on the negative (or SOURCE) side....
17:19 Seroster =)
17:20 SparkyProjects Electricity won't run to earth in an isolated system, that is the distribution transformer output connections are NOT grounded.
17:20 SparkyProjects And yes they do exist for special installations
17:20 Hackbat I wish I had this when I was activating windows
17:20 Hackbat 20 minutes of nayan cat
17:21 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: I found a nice 1kA isolator in a box when we were cleaning some racks here.  Not sure what I'm going to do with it yet.
17:22 tonsofpcs about 6" square core (from what I can see through the vented case -- I have no reason to open it)
17:22 SparkyProjects Is that an isolator switch or isolation transformer ?
17:23 tonsofpcs transformer
17:23 SparkyProjects What are input and output, i'm guessing same voltages
17:23 tonsofpcs NEMA 5-15P on a cord wired inside, rated 120v in 120v out, switch and fuse on the front panel, duplex NEMA 5-15R on the rear.
17:24 tonsofpcs copper filaments?
17:24 tonsofpcs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gIBFJZFMn0
17:24 SparkyProjects Could be handy for just the same as i posted above, but 1KA ?
17:24 SparkyProjects That would probably trip a household breaker with no load on it
17:25 tonsofpcs I think it's 1kA... might have been 1kW.... I'm not sure where we hid it, otherwise I'd go look
17:25 tonsofpcs probably 1kW
17:25 * tonsofpcs is tired
17:26 tonsofpcs I have much larger isolation transformers elsewhere, permanent installed.
17:27 SparkyProjects If you can pick it up, it's likely to be 1Kw
17:27 SparkyProjects They use that size on building sites, and the secondary is grounded as a center tap to give 55-0-55
17:28 tonsofpcs err, why would you do that?
17:28 tonsofpcs oh, nm, I see what you mean
17:28 injektion Hackbat, I've been seeing NaN:NaN on youtube a lot lately
17:29 tonsofpcs injektion: that's a good timestamp
17:29 SparkyProjects 55 volts is considered a safe voltage to ground if ever a wire is damaged
17:29 tonsofpcs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN-vd9QhckY << <3 this first comment
17:30 tonsofpcs I've reported 5 so far that required a captcha because I'm reporting so many...
17:33 tonsofpcs lol "make sure that the copper is exposed" followed by stripping a non-copper wire.
17:33 tonsofpcs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9J11QOmq8Y
17:33 tonsofpcs at least he didn't try killing himself on that one
17:33 SparkyProjects Why does he look so afraid to touch the wires if he KNOWS the power is off ?
17:33 SparkyProjects Hoow does he know the tester works ?
17:33 SparkyProjects And i would have tested again once the EARTHED plate was removed :D
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17:36 tonsofpcs in the first one you linked, he never actually killed the breaker.  The camera was probably plugged in inside.
17:36 speedrunnerG55 Rawer
17:36 SparkyProjects cameras have batteries
17:36 tonsofpcs but, at least he told you too....
17:36 tonsofpcs *to
17:36 speedrunnerG55 Rrqaawwweeerrrr
17:36 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: I know this, you know this....
17:38 SparkyProjects In the electrical industry you are supposed to prove that your test equipment works before testing for dead.
17:38 SparkyProjects Even better if you hold the tester on the wire and see it die when your mate turns the power off
17:39 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: and then test it on something live to prove that your batteries/wiring didn't just die at an inopportune time
17:39 tonsofpcs all of our fusible disconnects have testpoints on both sides (behind the cover, of course) for a reason...
17:40 SparkyProjects We usually turn it on and off a few times, your mate should let you know what he is doing, so he would be shouting 'On - Off - On - Off'
17:41 tonsofpcs we usually shut it off but assume it is hot anyway and work as if it is hot...
17:41 SparkyProjects And if there is any possibility that someone could turn it on, we also lock it off
17:41 tonsofpcs I need a good breaker LO/TO kit.
17:41 mashpriborintorg OMG i didn't see the number of videos EV posted
17:41 tonsofpcs yea, there's a series of 14 with oscar...
17:42 SparkyProjects heh, i've worked on hot stuff many times, and we use 240, not the relatively safe 120
17:42 mashpriborintorg we've got work for the next 150 years :D
17:42 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: I flagged em all.
17:42 tonsofpcs well, all the unsafe ones
17:42 tonsofpcs which was about 10-12 of them
17:42 mashpriborintorg you're a serial flagger now
17:42 tonsofpcs yup, I had to enter the captcha like 8 times.
17:45 mashpriborintorg btw I really dislike these wire nuts
17:46 mashpriborintorg bulky and not reliable enough to me
17:47 mashpriborintorg Cafe camera on stream, with an unidentified girl, Vicky maybe
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17:52 SparkyProjects I always remember sometthing that happened a few years ago, we were doing modifications to part of the control system in a grain handling building, we had to run some new wires to the new motor, this can normally be safely done while the circuits are live, we removed the cover on a length of 4x4 steel trunking packed full of wires, the cover has not been removed for many years, i immediately said we had to isola
17:52 SparkyProjects That's why i shudder when amateurs do some of the tasks shown in the EV vids
17:58 Cprossu I need something interesting to do.
17:58 Cprossu hrmmm
17:58 Cprossu yay pendulum cam!
17:59 Cprossu .seen tggmc
17:59 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw tggmc 58.35 hours ago at 2011-08-31 07:38:09 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:59:23 UTC
17:59 SparkyProjects Don't watch it too long, you'll be hypnotised :P
17:59 mashpriborintorg tggmc: Chris said it will be a HV week-end, so please switch to the HVL whenever sometings happens there, and it the HVL cam is still hooked
18:00 Cprossu it was unplugged when I left masterofmonks
18:00 Electronics =(
18:00 Cprossu * mashpriborintorg
18:00 Cprossu the literal power for it ran through janky conduit
18:00 mashpriborintorg oh too bad
18:01 mashpriborintorg that's why we only have boring cam
18:01 Cprossu and running extension cords in HVL....
18:01 Cprossu is not exactly the best idea
18:04 wannabe1987 exor674
18:04 * wannabe1987 beeps on exor674
18:04 exor674 yar?
18:04 ajprog_laptop Cprossu: what do you need at the lab?
18:05 Cprossu nothing that I know of I think
18:05 Electronics money
18:05 Cprossu just that HVL camera is dead for the moment right ajprog_laptop?
18:05 ajprog_laptop ok, you were checking on tggmc
18:05 Cprossu yeah
18:06 ajprog_laptop I believe so, I will check in a few
18:06 SparkyProjects A better camera view would be nice
18:06 Cprossu the reasoning that I know if is the circuit that the camera was on got pulled out ajprog_laptop
18:06 ajprog_laptop nothing has really happened in there so noone is in a rush to get it up again
18:06 Cprossu I figured as much =D
18:16 injektion At work instead of removing the microwave from the break room they put a lock out tag out cover on the plug
18:20 tggmc Hey EGRSteve, we need some of your assistance, if you read this before you come in, please call Dave.
18:29 Seroster Why do people feel the need to fuck with telemarketers?
18:29 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33B​CEPMGggU&amp;NR=1&amp;feature=fvwp
18:29 Seroster It's not like they call you because they think it's fun
18:30 Seroster It's not like ANYONE dreams about working as a telemarketers
18:30 Seroster How hard is it to say "Nope. Sorry, click" and not waste their time? -.-
18:37 SparkyProjects I don't even say anything, i just put the phone down
18:37 mashpriborintorg tomorrow I go to a gigantic flea market
18:38 mashpriborintorg 10.000 sellers
18:38 mashpriborintorg hope to find stuff, but it will be a surprise as always
18:38 Cprossu what's up tggmc?
18:39 SparkyProjects But also i'm registered with tps http://www.mpsonline.org.uk/tps/index.html
18:39 mashpriborintorg If I pick up a Sony CCU-M7, it will be for TGG, promised
18:39 SparkyProjects So i shouldn't be getting telemarketers
18:40 tonsofpcs why a ccu-m7?
18:40 mashpriborintorg Sparky, usually i tell them I have no money and I am onto bank blacklist, it works well
18:40 tonsofpcs does tgg even have the cables?
18:40 mashpriborintorg Chris wanted more of them
18:40 mashpriborintorg and cables also, but such stuff is so hard to find
18:41 tonsofpcs I might have ccu-m7s, but if I do I'm not getting rid of them....
18:41 tonsofpcs (and the cameras and cables are currently on loan to someone anyway)
18:42 mashpriborintorg there is some BTS LDK stuff very cheap onto ebay.de
18:42 tonsofpcs http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-CCU-M7-CAMERA-CO​NTROL-UNIT-/270810819175?pt=Camcorders_Profes​sional_Video_Cameras&amp;hash=item3f0d952a67
18:42 tonsofpcs BTS?
18:43 mashpriborintorg good gear http://www.ebay.fr/itm/380365599171?ssPageNam​e=STRK:MEWAX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
18:43 tonsofpcs oh, Bosch
18:43 mashpriborintorg the same kind as the Satun console at the tggmc
18:43 tonsofpcs we have Grass LDK cameras in our studio now
18:45 mashpriborintorg I try to pick up a very cheap broken 3-tube or 3-ccd camera to take it apart, not easy to find
18:45 Cprossu eh mashpriborintorg?
18:45 mashpriborintorg yeah
18:45 Cprossu most people don't give em up until they are forced to
18:46 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: why a 3-tube?
18:46 mashpriborintorg for the prism
18:47 mashpriborintorg I had a JVC By-110, but I did sell it :'(
18:47 tonsofpcs why do you want a bunch of prisms?
18:47 mashpriborintorg I will try to check the estate sales
18:48 mashpriborintorg just to play with it and get pure colors like Chris did :)
18:48 tonsofpcs http://www.ebay.com/itm/REDUCED-JVC-Pro-BY-110-C​CD-Video-Camera-/180716878211?pt=Camcorders_Prof​essional_Video_Cameras&amp;hash=item2a1390b983
18:48 mashpriborintorg They say 300$ for shipping :p
18:49 tonsofpcs to where?
18:49 mashpriborintorg this particular one is in my ebay watchlist actually
18:49 Electronics 'Worldwide'
18:49 mashpriborintorg France
18:49 Electronics seems to be the same worldwide
18:50 mashpriborintorg with economical surface parcel, if should be 40 dollars or so
18:50 mashpriborintorg still expensive vs item price tho
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18:51 mashpriborintorg http://www.marcelstvmuseum.com/photoalbum2.html
18:51 tonsofpcs well, you can have them send it here then I can reship it... it'll still cost quite a bit
18:51 tonsofpcs (or you can have me take a sledge to it and i'll send you the beamsplitter)
18:51 mashpriborintorg ^broadcast camera collection
18:51 tonsofpcs yours?
18:51 mashpriborintorg nope :'(
18:52 tonsofpcs I think we still have parts for a TK- out back...
18:52 Ponko AND ITS HITCHIN TOWN, HITCHIN TOWN FC, THE'RE BY FAR THE GREASTEST TEAM, THE WORLD HAS EVER SEEN.
18:52 Ponko hi :)
18:52 mashpriborintorg I'll rather try to get one more locally, less expensive for shipping
18:53 Ponko .seen BatSteve
18:53 BotSteve Ponko: I last saw batsteve 37.04 hours ago at 2011-09-01 05:50:41 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:53:08 UTC
18:53 Ponko .seen Bat-Mobile
18:53 BotSteve Ponko: I last saw bat-mobile 14.05 hours ago at 2011-09-02 04:50:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:53:33 UTC
18:55 tonsofpcs I think the JVC i have at home is either single or two tube
18:57 mashpriborintorg here's my photoset with broadcast equipment http://www.flickr.com/photos/6468​3169@N00/sets/72157624397419049/
18:58 mashpriborintorg the VCRs are been taken appart too bulky to keep :(
18:59 tonsofpcs is that a VO-9600P?  keep it!
18:59 tonsofpcs everyone has UVW-1[468]00s...
19:00 tonsofpcs I have an SVO-9600 (S-VHS)
19:00 mashpriborintorg If I keep everything, I'll need a hangar
19:00 tonsofpcs sure, a VO9800 would be nicer, but the 9600s were a very nice line.  We have BVW- series Umatic decks here, I hate them.
19:01 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: donate it to the 'restoring doctor who' group
19:01 tonsofpcs maybe you can even teach them how to do it.... when I offered my help, when I had access to a number of different NTSC UMatic and UMatic SP decks (which I know how to use and how to tweak), they shot me down...
19:02 mashpriborintorg Found them in a thrift store, I wanted to take one apart since a long time
19:03 tonsofpcs the 9800? it's like 6 screws to take apart, carriage slips right out, there's a plunger mechanism for 'emergency' eject though so it's very rare to need to take one apart
19:04 tonsofpcs (well, once inside, iirc it's 5 to take the cover off)
19:04 tonsofpcs err, 9600 ^
19:04 tonsofpcs the UVW-1x00 is a different story.  Still doable, not as simple.
19:04 tonsofpcs the front panel catches the tape carriage on removal, it's a pita to clear the heads, etc... (although if you're not wanting to put it back together, i guess it's not as much of an issue)
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19:05 yNos Ok everyont
19:06 yNos time for me to leave the house
19:06 yNos and see the outside world
19:06 yNos as i run to hide in tgg:leonard.
19:06 yNos later everone
19:06 mashpriborintorg it's your second house :)
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19:07 yNos only on thurs and the occasional friday.
19:09 mashpriborintorg OMG they stole my photo
19:09 mashpriborintorg http://ridicom.ru/Foto/Telemecanique-1096.html the bottom right photo is mine
19:10 mashpriborintorg http://www.flickr.com/photo​s/64683169@N00/4621446324/
19:11 injektion Whatever happened to Telemecanique
19:11 mashpriborintorg it still exists I believe
19:11 tonsofpcs they were nice enough to link to it.... not enough to ask for it though
19:12 tonsofpcs I've had my photos linked to from a photography forum
19:12 mashpriborintorg I always grand re-use upon request
19:12 tonsofpcs the flickr 'how people got here to see your picture' thing is nice
19:14 tonsofpcs also, I get a lot of hits from people looking for the Vivitar 1:2.5 28mm
19:14 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​teCYYLKJAME&amp;feature=related
19:14 tonsofpcs like, at least 3 per week
19:14 Seroster Stupid people never sieze to amaze me
19:14 mashpriborintorg sure, it allows me to refine my tags for better results in search engines
19:16 tonsofpcs Seroster: is that the 'world' thing that dubai is building? (I don't feel like watching the whole thing)
19:17 mashpriborintorg No, and anyways it does no look like the wolrd anymore. They did almost cancel the program during the finacial crises, and the not yet stabilized islands have been badly damaged
19:18 mashpriborintorg they need to move billions of tons of sand
19:18 tonsofpcs oh, i'm also getting a lot of hits for the vivitar 75-260
19:18 mashpriborintorg I had a very nice Minolta MD 1:1.7 50mm
19:19 mashpriborintorg it sells a good price
19:19 tonsofpcs really? The 1:1.8 was standard.  I have three of them and one 1.7.  The difference is negligible.
19:19 mashpriborintorg they are much more hard to find I belive
19:19 tonsofpcs (although iirc the 1.7 has more plastic than the 1.8)
19:20 tonsofpcs they are, but they're the same lens.
19:20 mashpriborintorg anyway the only serious lens is the Zenit Photosniper :)
19:21 mashpriborintorg I had one, this thing is weird and weights a ton
19:21 tonsofpcs http://camerapedia.wikia.c​om/wiki/Zenit_Photosniper
19:21 tonsofpcs I doubt it weighs much more than my 70-260
19:22 tonsofpcs err, 75-260
19:22 tonsofpcs http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonsofpcs/5305329530/
19:22 tonsofpcs that's in the fully collapsed position iirc.(it adds the length of that focus grip when focused near)
19:23 mashpriborintorg I would also like to find some big paparazzi Canon zoom, defective and at a cheap price, for putting onto a display Eos-3
19:23 tonsofpcs heh
19:23 tonsofpcs good luck.  It's usually worth fixing those
19:23 tonsofpcs you might be able to find a barrel sans-lens from an old dipslay though
19:23 tonsofpcs anyway, home time, cya
19:24 mashpriborintorg Even finding the motor drive was hard
19:24 mashpriborintorg ok bye
19:40 Ponko hmm
19:40 Ponko quiet
19:40 Electronics shhhh, it's a library
19:41 * Ponko whispers "sorry"
19:43 * Ponko picks up book sits down and reads
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19:47 tonsofpcs home
19:49 mashpriborintorg that was fast, warp driving tonsofpcs ?
19:49 Ponko he has delorean
19:50 masterofmonks http://hackaday.com/2011/09/01/​candlestick-phone-goes-modern/
19:50 masterofmonks Want to make one that is a cellphone.
19:50 Ponko with the additional flux capacitor
19:52 mashpriborintorg tggmc: please bring back this shopping cart to the store :D
19:57 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: actually, that was slow.  I didn't leave right away and there was traffic.
19:58 tonsofpcs I live less than 7 road miles away from work (2 miles straight-line)...
19:58 mashpriborintorg so if it was slow it means it was even more fast
19:59 mashpriborintorg great at least you do not spend a fortune in petrol
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20:01 iSasha Hello ;)
20:01 mashpriborintorg oh hai
20:01 mashpriborintorg and goodbye, I need to leavr
20:01 mashpriborintorg *leave
20:02 iSasha I'm watching The Hacker movie.....
20:03 iSasha .log
20:03 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
20:10 injektion Short trips destroy cars
20:11 injektion They do more damage than good
20:12 injektion 1) engine never reaches operating temp 2) Due to #2 expect more carbon buildup inside the engine because engines run rich until they reach the specified operating temp
20:12 injektion 3) Expect a lot of rust in your exhaust system since most tend to accumulate moisture
20:13 tonsofpcs injektion: you missed the possibility of condensation inside the engine
20:13 injektion whoops lol
20:14 injektion The tempo/topaz exhaust systems tend to rust within a year of making a lot of short trips
20:14 astro73|derrial i think the lab needs a http://www.thinkgeek.com/geek-kids/3-7-years/e7f7/
20:14 tonsofpcs this is also why, in winter and colder temps, I let my car warm up for 30 minutes, even if i'm only driving it for 2.
20:14 iSasha What counts as a short trip?
20:14 injektion Less than 5 miles
20:15 tonsofpcs i guess it's good that there's a river between here and work then!
20:15 injektion tonsofpcs, That's even worse for the engine
20:15 tonsofpcs injektion: I'm not driving through it!
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20:16 injektion When it came to both of the E28s at the house everyone says "start the engine and set off don't idle for as long as it takes you to put it in gear"
20:17 Toastdude Hi
20:17 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on Are you a ham?.....Radioactive on KC8YVE monitoring 52.525 out of Saginaw Michigan.
20:19 tonsofpcs E28s?
20:19 injektion BMW chasis code
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20:20 Toastdude Hi angy
20:20 injektion vThis is what I do when I leave: 1) set GPS if needed 2)open garage door 3) get in car 4) start engine 5) wait for oil pressure light to go out 6) put in reverse 7) leave driveway
20:21 angy hi Toast, hi everyone
20:21 angy how're ya Toast?
20:22 injektion 8) Before I start any kind of high RPM driving (over 3k RPMs) I wait 10 minutes after the temp gauge gets to the 10 o'clock position
20:22 Toastdude Good, about to see my father at 4:00
20:22 Toastdude You?
20:22 angy exhausted, but good
20:22 astro73|derrial injektion: i think your car is a bit touchy
20:23 injektion Why do you say that?
20:24 angy I've to say I got 2 step when I leave: Start the car, smash the accelerator down to the floor and try not to crash (ok, that's three)
20:25 injektion I never warm it up on cold days because the ECU will continue to run rich until the thermostat opens at 180C and letting it sit allows for more carbon buildup
20:26 injektion errr
20:26 injektion 180F
20:26 injektion All fuel injected engines operate that way during a cold start
20:27 * injektion bought the bosch fuel injection manual
20:28 astro73|derrial 1. turn on the car. 2. shift into reverse 3. back out of driveway 4. shift into drive 5. drive into the sunset
20:28 angy my car have weber carburetor, I don't care about injection ;)
20:29 injektion I'd rather have fuel injection I fucking hate carbs
20:30 angy I like them, there are funny little things
20:31 injektion My dad once had a truck with carbs he never could get it to pass an emission test
20:32 angy you usually have to tweak carbs to pass theses tests
20:33 injektion He tried several times
20:33 injektion He spent a year toying around with it
20:35 injektion Then he got rid of it
20:36 injektion It was the 5th generation mazda b series pickup truck before the ones sold in the us were badge engineered ford rangers
20:37 tonsofpcs hey, who was it that was looking for a broadcast job near GRR?
20:40 CSMonster ANGY
20:40 CSMonster HELLO
20:40 Toastdude CSMonster
20:40 angy Hello CSMonster
20:40 CSMonster aw shit.  i mean hi toast
20:40 * tonsofpcs hands CSMonster a caps-unlock key
20:40 Toast-Away :|
20:40 CSMonster capslock is cruise control for cool.
20:41 * tonsofpcs hands CSMonster a second caps-unlock key in case he loses the first
20:41 CSMonster lol
20:41 angy that can be handy indeed
20:42 * angy has his head hurting from the scream
20:42 CSMonster my apologies
20:42 * CSMonster bites exor674
20:42 * exor674 bites CSMonster
20:45 * angy clean all the blood pools
20:46 masterofmonks hey injektion Haloacetic acid.
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20:49 injektion hai2u masterofmonks
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20:54 angy hum... it's time to eat something
20:56 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zidiWe9yq88 <3
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21:33 tlockley .seen CaptainBoden
21:33 BotSteve tlockley: I last saw captainboden 246.07 hours ago at 2011-08-23 15:29:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:33:49 UTC
21:34 tlockley anyone here at the lab today?
21:40 tlockley or was there earlier?
21:46 Seroster http://www.wimp.com/thisshot/
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21:50 tlockley damn
21:50 tlockley that takes some faith
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22:03 BotSteve Welcome back, boss.
22:04 CSMonster batsteve
22:04 BatSteve csm
22:04 CSMonster what's up?
22:04 BatSteve I need a UPS
22:04 BatSteve I lost 32 days of uptime because of a 7 second power interruption
22:04 tlockley how big
22:04 CSMonster ouch.
22:05 tlockley yah bummer on the uptime loss
22:05 BatSteve Luckily, uptime is a meaningless statistic, used only for e-peen measuring.
22:05 BatSteve (:
22:05 tlockley tehe
22:05 BatSteve and tlockley, I'm thinking the smallest one I can find
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22:05 BatSteve all I need is for it to smooth the momentary interruptions
22:06 BatSteve Anything over...say...4 minutes and I accept that it's going down
22:06 tlockley ok, how many machines and what is the wattage on the PSU?
22:07 BatSteve One machine.  I think it's a 700W power supply...i think.  Might be 1k.  I forget.
22:07 tlockley if its one general purpose whitebox then a 450VA or 350VA APC will do the trick
22:07 BatSteve Awesome, thank you!  (What's an APC?)
22:07 tlockley ok then like a 450VA should be fine.
22:07 BatSteve .w apc
22:08 BotSteve "Adenomatous polyposis coli, a type of colon cancer caused by a defect APC-protein due to mutations in the APC-gene." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apc
22:08 tlockley APC is a company
22:08 BatSteve in before armored personnel carrier
22:08 BatSteve poop
22:08 BatSteve 450 VA APC
22:08 BatSteve Got it.
22:08 tlockley http://www.amazon.com/APC-BE450G-Back-UPS​-8-Outlet-Uninterrupted/dp/B001BTWQDS$56
22:08 tlockley oops
22:08 tlockley http://www.amazon.com/APC-BE450G-Back-U​PS-8-Outlet-Uninterrupted/dp/B001BTWQDS
22:09 tlockley 56 dollars
22:10 tlockley I run my intel xserve with a 350VA but at times the UPS fucks up so i recomend the 450
22:10 BatSteve Okay, cool.
22:11 BatSteve question
22:11 tlockley shoot
22:11 BatSteve Why is this one cheaper, and yet has a higher VA rating?  I assume VA is volt*amp (over time)?  http://www.amazon.com/APC-Back-UPS​-Outlet-550VA-120V/dp/B0019804U8/
22:12 BatSteve Maybe it's just a power smoother?
22:12 tlockley no its a UPS. power smoothers arent rated in VA
22:13 tlockley that is strange. go for the cheaper one
22:13 tlockley in reallity they are all built the smae
22:13 tlockley the difference is minor charger and battery changes
22:13 tlockley *same
22:13 BatSteve Oh, okay.
22:13 BatSteve (I know nothing about this topic, forgive any stupid questions)
22:14 tlockley NP, i know enough to be dangerous on this one
22:14 BatSteve (:
22:14 CSMonster FOUNDIT
22:14 CSMonster IFOUNDITIFOUNDITIFOUNDIT and holy shit that's kind of genius.
22:14 BatSteve Another question - how much waste heat does yours put out, tlockley?
22:14 tlockley not enough to be noticeable
22:15 BatSteve also, CSMonster, what did you find?  (I bet it's Dr. Livingston)
22:15 CSMonster i found the mechanical details on this rifle: http://img153.imageshack.us/im​g153/6550/1187672633539vc6.jpg
22:15 CSMonster directly from the maker.
22:15 BatSteve tlockley: fantastic.  you are my winner of the day.
22:15 BatSteve (:
22:15 tlockley sweet
22:15 Ponko BATSTEVE
22:16 BatSteve PONKO
22:16 * Ponko throws bullet of a pass towards BatSteve route.....
22:16 BatSteve CSMonster: how long is the barrel on that crazy rifle thingy?
22:16 BatSteve (points if you say "just long enough")
22:16 CSMonster 10"
22:17 CSMonster also that.
22:17 tlockley that thing is crasy
22:17 tlockley its a revolver with a stock and a rifle barrel
22:17 tlockley but why?
22:17 CSMonster it's quite a bit more than that.
22:17 CSMonster it's one of the quietest firearms ever made.
22:17 * Ponko sees ball go incomplete
22:18 tlockley what is it?
22:18 CSMonster you can't normally sound-suppress a revolver because of the gap between the barrel and the cylinder
22:18 tlockley huh
22:18 BatSteve incomplete!
22:19 * BatSteve jogs back to the line for the third down
22:19 CSMonster what they did is put a .30 bullet in the middle of an aluminum piston loaded into a .44 magnum casing, and put a .30 barrel on a revolver chambered for .44 magnum
22:20 tlockley who makes it?
22:20 Seroster http://www.wimp.com/worthwatching/
22:20 Seroster DAMN hes good
22:20 BatSteve hey seroster!
22:20 Seroster Both at his job AND philosophy
22:20 * Ponko urges fans on with a wave see's 10 secs left on the game clock down by a field goal inside the redzone
22:21 Seroster He's like the definition of karisma
22:21 CSMonster the aluminum piston moves forward with the bullet and closes the cylinder gap; sealed to the case with an o-ring and sealed to the barrel with a plastic washer, while the bullet then leaves the piston and goes down the barrel normally.  no need to completely contain the propellant gas inside the cartridge casing, and no need for a forward-moving cylinder like on the Nagant M1895
22:21 Seroster Hello battie
22:21 CSMonster and it was made by Knight's Armament Company.
22:21 * Ponko takes the snap and passes to batsteve and see's it batted down
22:21 CSMonster no need for proprietary brass either.
22:21 CSMonster man that is a thing of beauty.
22:22 * BatSteve kicks dirt on the umpire's shoes
22:22 tlockley i need to find a video of someone firing that thing
22:22 BatSteve (:
22:22 Ponko hey don't get penalised BatSteve
22:22 BatSteve Couldn't help it, I'm a loose cannon who doesn't play by the man's rules.
22:23 BatSteve But you're right, the game is hanging on this down
22:23 CSMonster "It was a fielded rifle.  Purpose was the same as most military weapons."
22:23 tlockley wow
22:23 Ponko well we've got 6 secs left in the super bowl and we're down by 4 and we need to score a td or else
22:24 BatSteve Purpose of most military weapons:  expend ammo in the nearest cardinal compass direction of the enemy?
22:24 CSMonster and now i want to build one.
22:24 CSMonster yes.
22:24 CSMonster or just "kill people and blow shit up"
22:24 * Ponko goes back in the huddle choses the call and gets under centre
22:24 BatSteve That usually requires aimed fire though.
22:25 * Ponko takes the snap and looks for Batsteve fires towards the endzone........
22:25 BatSteve I was thinking of the "3000 rounds per enemy killed" statistic from the 70s era.
22:25 CSMonster heh, that still holds true, more or less, for small arms fire.
22:25 * BatSteve cuts, looks back, looks back again, aaaaaand.....
22:25 BatSteve pulls it out of the air in the end zone!
22:25 tlockley bbl
22:26 * Ponko raises hands in celebration jumping for joy
22:26 Ponko TOUCHDOWN GREEN BAY PACKERS
22:26 BatSteve its pandemonium here!
22:27 BatSteve the field is flooding with spectators!
22:27 BatSteve Nobody bothers to kick the extra point!
22:27 BatSteve it's all over!
22:28 Hackbat we need to name the moon
22:28 BatSteve Ponko: if I had more time I was going to do this catch
22:28 BatSteve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07zsdF0y​sP0&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=63s
22:28 BatSteve I vote we name it Hackbat
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22:29 Hackbat D: I don't want to predicted to blow up in 6 months every year
22:29 speedrunnerG55 .seen |red|
22:29 BotSteve speedrunnerG55: I last saw |red| 913.11 hours ago at 2011-07-26 21:23:24 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 22:29:42 UTC
22:29 speedrunnerG55 BotSteve: ?
22:29 speedrunnerG55 Hi BotSteve
22:29 BotSteve Salutations speedrunnerG55!
22:30 speedrunnerG55 :(
22:32 speedrunnerG55 Awaymonster: ... Lol
22:32 speedrunnerG55 You monster... :)
22:33 Ponko BatSteve that catch was epic
22:34 speedrunnerG55 Catch?
22:34 speedrunnerG55 BatSteve: ?
22:34 BatSteve speedrunnerG55: before you came in I linked this
22:34 BatSteve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07zsdF0y​sP0&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=63s
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22:37 * wannabe1987 pokes irc
22:37 * wannabe1987 is in GR now :D
22:37 * speedrunnerG55 pokes wannabe bqck
22:38 speedrunnerG55 Cool, wannabe
22:38 wannabe1987 yep
22:38 wannabe1987 but my computer(s) won't connect to my friends internet (wtf) so she's lending me her laptop while she's at work (overnight)
22:39 BatSteve hi kelly
22:39 Ponko hey kelly
22:40 Ponko me and bat just won the super bowl XD
22:40 speedrunnerG55 Kelly. What type of network is it(why did i just type kelly)
22:41 speedrunnerG55 (looks up) oh
22:41 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve , Ponko
22:42 wannabe1987 i duno, but it doesn't ding me if my name is said...
22:42 speedrunnerG55 Are you tryi g to conect to wifi?
22:43 wannabe1987 yes
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22:45 speedrunnerG55 Hmmm, do you need to set up aos?  BatSteve < do you know more abbout this?
22:45 speedrunnerG55 A buttion you would have to press on the router and on the antenna. Idk why
22:45 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlvOUG8nuZ4 batsteve it could of been THIS catch
22:45 BatSteve Possibly.  Is it detecting the network at all?  Also, is the network SSID hidden?
22:45 wannabe1987 dude.  she does IT for amway
22:46 wannabe1987 i don't know....
22:46 wannabe1987 she needed my mac address so i just gave her the computer(s) becuas i had no clue
22:46 speedrunnerG55 Ohh. Mac filterig FTW
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22:46 speedrunnerG55 OH!
22:46 speedrunnerG55 Do you use an external antenna?
22:47 BatSteve ooh, do you have a cable?  Just plug in.  Usually ethernet isn't mac-filtered
22:47 BigTank hello all
22:47 speedrunnerG55 ... Hi BigTank
22:47 BatSteve taaaaaaaank
22:47 BatSteve also, Ponko, that was an amazing catch
22:47 BigTank no joke my captcha was NSFW...
22:48 speedrunnerG55 Wannabe?
22:48 speedrunnerG55 Oops
22:48 BigTank it was funny
22:50 Ponko and an amazing commentating BatSteve
22:50 BigTank so what are the goings on in the lab today?
22:51 BatSteve Not sure
22:51 BatSteve .stream
22:51 wannabe1987 the cable isn't long enough
22:51 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://justin.tv/thegeekgroup
22:51 BigTank im watching the stram
22:52 BigTank lol
22:52 BatSteve Whoa.  We have radio.
22:52 BatSteve What is that, the police radio?
22:52 BigTank ya'
22:52 BatSteve Cool
22:53 BigTank brb gtg eat some pizza
22:54 wannabe1987 so i'm now in the NE side of GR
22:54 Seroster I think I just creeped out the entire secondary chan xD
22:54 Ponko brb
22:56 wannabe1987 ....
22:57 wannabe1987 gah this computer is weird....i want my computer back :P
22:57 wannabe1987 later i'll get on the netbook, plugged into the cord
22:59 tggmc We have a lot of action coming from the high voltage room tonight! Our coverage from Master Control will start around 8:00 p.m.
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23:01 BatSteve it annoys me when students lie to me
23:01 BatSteve hi photography
23:01 BatSteve you came in at an awkward time
23:01 BatSteve (:
23:02 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i go to the party tonight?
23:02 BotSteve Nope
23:02 wannabe1987 BotSteve:  i don't like your answer
23:02 BatSteve that's 0000 UTC, for anyone who doesn't know that tggmc is in the -4 timezone
23:03 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now We have a lot of action coming from the high voltage room tonight! Our coverage from Master Control will start around 8:00 p.m. local (0000 UTC) || Lab's Live Stream: http://goo.gl/WBSiE | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2
23:05 Seroster Damn timezones
23:06 Seroster Katie, make up your mind, eh?
23:06 masterofmonks I would be perfectly fine if we used UTC everywhere.
23:06 Kate_Monster .yt avenue q kate monster the internet is for porn
23:06 BotSteve Kate_Monster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ0sZqO9EEQ
23:06 Seroster It would be rather dark here at noon
23:07 masterofmonks Seroster: I thought it was that way for like 3 months of the year for you anywat?
23:07 Seroster That is why we have dst....
23:08 masterofmonks I hate dst.
23:08 masterofmonks It's more useless than teats on a boar hog.
23:08 Seroster ...
23:09 Seroster Screw it. Night.
23:09 Kate_Monster by seroster
23:09 BatSteve so long Seroster
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23:15 BatSteve Holding the helicopter rotor to the rotor mast is a very special nut called the Jesus nut. It screws on to the top of the mast. The Jesus nut has a particular shape and strength that insure it remains tight. If the Jesus nut loosens the rotor comes off and the pilot calls out the nut’s name as the helicopter falls like a brick.
23:18 Kate_Monster See I always thought it was called the fuck nut.
23:20 BatSteve This comes from a letter from a helicopter firefighter to his daughter, so it probably is, and he just sanitized it.
23:24 Hackbat one or two of those popped off in nam
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23:42 BatSteve hey Kate_Monster:  http://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/letter-ten
23:48 * speedrunnerG55 rawerssss at wannabe
23:50 BigTank ok im back...
23:52 wannabe1987 mmmmm dinner
23:52 speedrunnerG55 Lol cool?
23:52 speedrunnerG55 What is it?
23:53 wannabe1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.c​om/2011/08/breakfast-hash.html  with different ingredients (peas, green onion, peppers, potatoes, and eggplant
23:53 BigTank just had dinner, spicy bbq chicken pizza with shredded sharp cheddar, provolone, and romano cheeses, Home made!
23:53 SparkyProjects Batsteve, i've heard it called the Jesus nut too
23:54 BigTank My grandfather is a jesus nut
23:54 Kate_Monster "The flames will reach the bare dirt of the hand line and go out, since dirt doesn’t burn."
23:55 Kate_Monster every time someone says that something doesn't burn, i want to prove them wrong.
23:55 Experimentonomen joined #thegeekgroup
23:57 wannabe1987 do it!
23:57 BatSteve do it!
23:57 Ponko DO IT DO IT NOW I'M HERE C'MON KILL MEE
23:57 BatSteve also, that sounds like a fun "day in the life"
23:57 masterofmonks Astrolite!
23:57 Kate_Monster doesn't it?
23:58 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Q9D4dcYng

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