Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-09-12

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00:00 angy I have to go into the wood, chop branches and start a fire
00:00 tlockley i call shenanigans
00:00 Ponko use a bloody kettle man
00:00 wannabe1987 angy what house, france or montreal?
00:00 tlockley though i also use a kettle
00:01 angy Montreal
00:01 angy in France, I got a nice bulthaup kitchen
00:02 wannabe1987 bul-huh?
00:02 angy http://bulthaup.com/
00:03 tlockley ummm, dayum
00:03 lwq joined #thegeekgroup
00:05 wannabe1987 mmm popcorn
00:05 tlockley pot or microwave?
00:05 wannabe1987 pot!
00:05 angy can you trow some into the phone line? I'll gather them here
00:05 tlockley good, though i am too lazy most of the time to do that myself
00:05 wannabe1987 yes
00:06 angy thanks
00:06 wannabe1987 mom makes it this way...
00:06 wannabe1987 i'm at her house
00:06 tlockley ah
00:06 wannabe1987 its her sunday night supper
00:06 Ponko NeWotz as a lions fan you have to admit the Packs game was an exciting one
00:06 tlockley though I personally thing the microwave popcorm bag to bowl thing is about the best thing since pre-zliced bread
00:06 tlockley *think
00:08 wannabe1987 i fixed the tv :P
00:08 SparkyProjects Nothing better than popcorn in a pot with a glass lid so you can watch it pop, can't do that in a bag :P
00:08 * angy tea is ready!
00:08 tlockley indeed you cant
00:08 wannabe1987 has a metal lid but stull
00:08 tlockley making pocorn without a lid... even better
00:08 wannabe1987 ...
00:09 wannabe1987 ruth doesn't havce a stock pot
00:09 angy new game! catch them before they hit the ground!
00:09 wannabe1987 ow....
00:09 wannabe1987 hotpop corn
00:10 SparkyProjects They had a programme here the other day, cinemas are making up to 1000% on the price of popcorn
00:10 wannabe1987 this is why we make stuff at moms house....she has a pastry blender :D
00:10 Ponko yay
00:10 Ponko hey angy did i make you want a tea?
00:10 angy damn you Brit!
00:11 Ponko lol
00:11 Ponko take that as a yes then
00:11 angy you should
00:13 angy my tea consumption is quite high these day though
00:17 wannabe1987 tea is good for you!
00:18 angy can I put gin in it?
00:18 wannabe1987 yes
00:18 angy But I won't
00:19 angy that tea is too tasty to ruin it with gin
00:19 Toastdude Lol
00:19 Toastdude Tea is good
00:19 angy Are you sure you're not a brit Toast?
00:19 Toastdude Yes, I'm sure
00:19 Toastdude But I do have British genes
00:20 tlockley tea is good if prepaired right
00:20 wannabe1987 <in a british accent> how do you know for sure?
00:20 angy I have a few resurgence of brit accent when I speak
00:20 angy that makes all my friend laugh usually
00:23 wannabe1987 i can have one if i want when i speak....our driver in england had a fake british accent contest and he judged us and i was 3rd place :)
00:23 angy mine is not really faked, come from when I was near Manchester
00:23 wannabe1987 lol i figured
00:25 angy but I'm the one other make fun of when we were at conferences in english the 2 past years
00:25 angy The Brits and the Aussies did not however
00:28 SparkyProjects Funny story, i got chatting to a young lad from California, we used to chat while he was in school, during English he kept asking me for 'the correct English spelling' of words.
00:28 SparkyProjects When the teacher tried to correct him, he said, 'this is an English class, so i'll write in English, not American English'
00:29 angy I _have_ to remember to use this one
00:30 angy that said, I think I will not have any other english classes ever
00:30 angy maybe a few physics one
00:30 wannabe1987 lol
00:31 SparkyProjects Just like i wish i knew now what i should have known in my school days, when the teacher says 'I before E except after C' i would have told them 'Science is Weird'
00:31 angy :)
00:32 Toastdude Haha, nice
00:35 angy wannabe1987: two days since I had a drink!
00:35 * angy fist pump!
00:36 wannabe1987 whoa....why?
00:37 Toastdude That's crazy...
00:37 angy I don't know
00:37 Toastdude Have you been drinking lately :P
00:37 angy I'm starting to feel dry
00:38 angy I must be a robot, like Bender in Futurama :p
00:38 wannabe1987 lol
00:38 tonsofpcs angy: same here :(
00:39 angy I already drink, and smoke cigars
00:39 angy just have to transform my skin into metal
00:39 tonsofpcs i figure drinking when I might get a call at a moments notice to either work or help someone clean up is a bad idea
00:39 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cXlXC5_gr0
00:39 Hackbat :D!
00:40 angy I tend to develop a sense of working when I'm fried
00:40 Sythen ugh, i wish i could switch off, i'd like to sleep
00:40 angy I can turn you off, but it might be permanent
00:40 Sythen heh, you could try
00:41 angy I have to check if there is a free OR
00:43 Sythen i might have to head to dr daniels
00:43 angy you can head to me, I'm not licensed ;)
00:43 Sythen heh
00:43 Sythen people tend to run when i appear
00:44 Sythen its entertaining
00:44 Sythen and i like dr daniels, he tastes great in coke lol
00:44 Hackbat I think that's pretty decent for my first video
00:44 Hackbat besides the LP thing i did for steam
00:44 Hackbat doesn't count in my opinion
00:44 Hackbat I did that for a ticket
00:44 angy at least, you played Revenge of the Titans :)
00:45 Sythen i still need to finish space marine
00:45 angy the kitten saves the whole video, if there is a kitten, my opinion is biased
00:46 Hackbat it's adorable at 12x
00:46 Hackbat also +1 for it being at 4:04
00:47 Sythen lol
00:47 NeWtoz NO 720P!!!
00:47 NeWtoz OMG
00:47 * NeWtoz kids
00:47 angy I want $k!
00:47 angy *4K
00:47 Hackbat this si as large as the recording was
00:47 Sythen sounds like dr who on the zx spectrum
00:48 Hackbat for some reason procaster records at the same quality it streams
00:48 wannabe1987 grandma's going home, so it'll be just me and sleeping kids here....
00:48 wannabe1987 i won't have to attempt to make conversation...
00:48 angy have a tea!
00:48 Sythen tea!? where!?
00:49 angy In the OR. Coooome here
00:49 wannabe1987 or?  operating room?
00:49 wannabe1987 please no.....
00:49 angy sterilized tea though
00:49 wannabe1987 lol
00:49 wannabe1987 i would like to watch surgery sometime tho
00:49 angy first time, you'll either vomit or passout
00:50 angy usually the 2, first vomit, then pass out
00:50 wannabe1987 lol
00:51 wannabe1987 i don't mind blood and guts and gore....why do you think i'm in the nursing profession?
00:51 Sythen nah, surgery is fun!
00:51 SparkyProjects I watched them do the surgery to my thumb, including when the filed the bone :D
00:51 angy I was in the orthopedic surgery
00:51 angy fusing vertebrae bodies, things like that
00:52 tlockley gnight
00:52 Sythen good night
00:52 angy night
00:52 angy you tend to see another gore factor when you open up someone
00:53 angy crush the rib-cage to go to your objectice
00:53 wannabe1987 niught
00:53 wannabe1987 night* even
00:53 angy using tools like the one you use to build your house
00:53 Sythen seeing people getting hit by a high speed train :)
00:53 wannabe1987 ...
00:53 angy a little too fast
00:54 angy most fun is when someone catch fire on the operating table
00:54 Sythen heheh
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00:54 wannabe1987 lwq!!!!!!
00:54 angy one of the surgeon and a colleague of mine got covered in intestinal fluids and poo in that particular event
00:54 Sythen nice!
00:55 angy that particular case ended well
00:55 * angy is more into organ harvesting
00:55 SparkyProjects ah, so not spontaneus combustion then
00:55 Sythen my liver is mine, you cant have it heeh
00:56 angy nope, was the fax contained in the intestine that caught fire
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00:56 Sythen nice
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00:57 SparkyProjects I'm not going to your OR :P
00:57 angy Why? It's clean!
00:57 angy Just have to ask for experimental surgery department
00:57 SparkyProjects It's dangerous :D
00:57 angy that is true
00:58 angy that's why there is experimental into the name
00:58 angy I'm still in beta stage :)
00:58 wannabe1987 HOLY CRAP ITS DARK ALREADY
00:58 wannabe1987 its like...8:58!
00:58 angy it's dark for like 30 minutes
00:58 Sythen its 2am, and i want to sleep hehe
00:58 SparkyProjects I've seen loads of animals catch fire, but that's because we threw them in the incinerator :P
00:59 lwq god damn playstation network
00:59 Sythen heheh nice
00:59 angy that tend to help thje combustion fact
00:59 lwq woulnt let me log in
00:59 wannabe1987 i know....but i just realized it.
00:59 wannabe1987 Sythen go to bed?
00:59 Sythen cant sleep
00:59 Sythen cant switch off
00:59 angy try drinking, it won't work
00:59 angy it will be worse even
01:00 Sythen its somewhat annoying
01:00 angy I know that rather well
01:00 Toastdude Brb
01:00 wannabe1987 i wish there was a way to ask the dishwasher when it was last run....
01:01 Sythen hey, atleast im not bothered by my ex-wife anymore, bitch used to do my nut in
01:02 wannabe1987 i hate not being able to sleep.  i hear you there
01:02 wannabe1987 stupid brain don't shut off
01:02 angy I'm trying to have a more normal sleep schedule theses days, hard
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01:02 Toastdude Back
01:03 Sythen hellooo
01:03 angy that was fast
01:03 angy you must be half toasted
01:03 Toastdude Lol
01:03 Toastdude Hi Sythen
01:03 Sythen hello toast
01:03 Toastdude Have to homework.....
01:04 wannabe1987 awwww
01:04 angy I can do your physics, if it has to do with MRI
01:04 wannabe1987 yes, very hard.  i went to sleep around 5am today....
01:04 wannabe1987 normal whats normal :P
01:04 Toastdude I'm in 8th grade angy...
01:05 Toastdude .seen CaptainNiobe
01:05 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw captainniobe 22.85 hours ago at 2011-09-11 02:13:59 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:05:09 UTC
01:05 * angy have to find something to understand the concept of grades in the US
01:05 Toastdude thanks BotSteve
01:05 BotSteve You're welcome, Toastdude
01:05 SparkyProjects CaptainNiobe is still asleep according to my radar
01:05 Toastdude The most we're doing is simple algebra
01:06 Toastdude We're getting into quadratic equations this year, though
01:06 wannabe1987 do i make the frosting too?
01:06 Toastdude Radar?
01:06 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i frost my muffins?
01:06 BotSteve Reply hazy, try again later
01:06 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i frost my muffins?
01:06 BotSteve Nope
01:06 wannabe1987 ok
01:06 Toastdude BotSteve: Should wannabe frost her muffins?
01:06 BotSteve Yep!
01:06 Toastdude Frost away wannabe!
01:06 Toastdude :P
01:06 Sythen hahahah
01:06 SparkyProjects Toastdude, i have her as a Gtalk contact, and she is idle at the moment
01:07 wannabe1987 .......
01:07 Sythen "frost her muffins"
01:07 wannabe1987 CaptainNiobe
01:07 angy Toast, I read it quadric
01:07 wannabe1987 Sythen get mind out of gutter
01:07 angy I was starting to think you were way ahead of 8th grade
01:07 Toastdude Lol, no, not quadric
01:07 Toastdude Quadratic
01:08 angy It's been ages since I used that name, so I read it wrong :p
01:08 Sythen mind in the gutter? sorry, the goverment has it
01:08 Toastdude The rest of my grade is doing simple math...
01:08 angy second order polynomial equation is what I read know
01:09 angy s/know/now
01:09 Toastdude By the time we do quadratic equations, they will be on to 2(x-4)-4x+12y
01:10 Sythen i suck at math
01:10 Toastdude Whoops
01:10 Toastdude Did not mean that
01:10 angy :)
01:10 Toastdude Meant 2x + 15 = 13x +14
01:10 angy quadratics are very easy once you've mastered the monic form
01:11 Sythen again, i suck a math
01:11 Toastdude That'd be  15 = 11x + 14
01:11 angy -11x + 1 + 0 though
01:11 angy -11x + 1 = 0
01:11 Toastdude then 1 = 11x
01:12 angy finally x=\frac{1}{11} :)
01:12 Toastdude then 1/11 = x
01:13 angy it's so weird to see that kind of math again
01:13 Toastdude Lol
01:13 angy I though it was quite difficult a while back
01:14 angy now I just read and resolve it before finish reading it
01:14 Toastdude What kind? The kind we were just doing?
01:14 NeWtoz makes me want to take my pants off
01:14 Toastdude :O
01:14 Toastdude ....
01:14 NeWtoz heh
01:15 Sythen ooook lol
01:15 angy that's a strange feeling when doing math
01:15 angy I tend to pour myself a glass of wine when I do math
01:15 NeWtoz I like to make awkward moments
01:15 Toastdude Lol, there is a person at the high school who does that...
01:16 angy it's quite hard to create an awkward moment with me
01:16 Toastdude NeWtoz: That was pretty funny...
01:16 Toastdude In a weird, awkward way
01:17 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i make pumpkin cream cheese frosting?
01:17 BotSteve Definitely
01:17 wannabe1987 ok
01:17 Toastdude Oooh, Can I come over Kelly? :P
01:17 wannabe1987 yes
01:17 wannabe1987 its for my pumpkin muffins
01:17 wannabe1987 start walking
01:18 Toastdude Ok, I'll take a spare jet from the local military base and fly :P
01:18 Toastdude Jk
01:18 wannabe1987 ok
01:18 angy Toast, I won't share with you the kind of equation I'm dealing with
01:18 Bat-Mobile share it!
01:18 angy you'll have to have access to the journal
01:18 Toastdude Please don't... I don't want my brain fired before I do homework
01:19 angy hum... have to find a way to share a picture
01:20 wannabe1987 imgur?
01:20 Bat-Mobile angy: http://bayimg.com/
01:21 angy http://bayimg.com/OaKhEaadA
01:22 Toastdude Fun stuff....
01:22 angy it's a lot less (or more) frightening when you understand it :)
01:24 angy that's in fact a fitting equation
01:24 Sythen understanding it, for me, is an understatment lol
01:25 angy but don't worry Toast, you won't deal with that for a long time
01:27 angy and after digging it from a (referenced) article, you have to code it, and that way less fun
01:29 angy now Toast, go do your homework!
01:29 Toastdude I am right now
01:30 * angy hugs Toastdude, and start eating a corner in the process
01:31 * Toastdude hugs angy, then swats him away from the chewed corner
01:31 wannabe1987 ...
01:31 * Toastdude hugs wannabe1987 also
01:32 * Toastdude bro hugs Steve
01:33 Bat-Mobile BROMANCE
01:33 Sythen the amount of hugging going on is making me uncomfortable
01:33 * Toastdude hugs/ bro hugs Sythen
01:33 Bat-Mobile Sythen: welcome to The Geek Group.
01:34 wannabe1987 awwwww
01:34 Toastdude :P
01:34 Bat-Mobile (:
01:34 wannabe1987 poor Sythen
01:34 Bat-Mobile .yt welcome to the internet
01:34 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvl5qFuWfxs
01:34 Toastdude How true, Bats
01:34 Toastdude :P
01:34 angy Sythen: don't chew on Toast!
01:34 Sythen i dont want to chew on toast lol
01:35 Toastdude That's Still Alive in the background
01:35 Bat-Mobile (linked mostly because I like the song)
01:35 Bat-Mobile yep
01:35 Bat-Mobile Still Alive: Raddox Remix
01:35 Toastdude And I just got to the vocals
01:36 Sythen bat
01:36 Sythen i hate you
01:36 Toastdude LOL
01:36 Bat-Mobile Sythen
01:36 Bat-Mobile why?
01:36 Bat-Mobile (:
01:36 Sythen so very much, for that video
01:36 Bat-Mobile :D
01:36 Toastdude Don't be haten'
01:36 Toastdude :D
01:36 Toastdude Stiil Alive
01:36 Sythen the fact that moron could break a perfectly good hard disk in that machine doing that,
01:36 Toastdude *Still
01:37 Sythen the tune is good tho
01:37 Sythen almost as catchy as this lil number
01:37 * wannabe1987 group hugs with lwq, Toastdude, Sythen, and Bat-Mobile
01:38 Sythen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGooQ8yYC0c
01:38 Toastdude Love still alive
01:38 Bat-Mobile I like Still Alive better than I like the song from Portal 2
01:38 wannabe1987 I LOVE HUGGING
01:38 Sythen I NEED AN ADULT! I NEED AN ADULT!
01:38 wannabe1987 then again, i'm female....it happens
01:38 wannabe1987 i'm an adult!
01:38 angy same here
01:38 angy most of the time
01:38 angy maybe
01:38 Bat-Mobile I threw it on the ground!  I'm an adult!
01:38 Sythen dont hug the aspie lol
01:38 Toastdude I'm not!
01:39 wannabe1987 awww sorry i didn't know
01:39 * wannabe1987 doesn't hug any aspies
01:39 wannabe1987 esp boden :P
01:40 Toastdude Boden's not aspie.... Is he?
01:40 Toastdude :P
01:40 wannabe1987 he says he is :P
01:40 angy you may be badly hurt if you hug me
01:40 Toastdude Lol
01:40 wannabe1987 angy don't hit girls
01:40 * Toastdude doesn't hug angy
01:40 * wannabe1987 hugs angy
01:41 * Toastdude hugs angy
01:41 Sythen im gonna go hide under my rock
01:41 wannabe1987 noes!
01:41 angy you should build yourself a shell
01:42 * wannabe1987 coaxes Sythen out with cookies and muffins
01:42 Toastdude Have fun under th-- I mean Don't go under the rock! Wannabe has cookies
01:42 * Sythen sends out the badgers
01:42 Bat-Mobile .cookie Sythen
01:42 BotSteve Here you go, Sythen, I baked you a butter pecan cookie!
01:42 Toastdude .element Sythen
01:42 BotSteve Here you go, Sythen, I'm giving you 20kg. of pure Nobelium !
01:43 Toastdude .skittles Sythen
01:43 BotSteve Here you go, Sythen, I got you some grape skittles!
01:43 Sythen i already have 20kg of unobtainium thank you! lol
01:43 Toastdude Lol
01:44 Toastdude Oh yeah? Well I have 200kg of Wonderflonium!
01:44 Toastdude :P
01:45 Sythen hehe
01:45 Toastdude Oh yeah....
01:45 Sythen yeah, im not that big on hugging, the whole personal space thing
01:45 Toastdude BROMANCE
01:45 angy I want wolfram
01:45 Toastdude Sorry Sythen...
01:46 Toastdude @ Bat-Mobile
01:46 Sythen tis nobodies fault, its just one of those things heheh
01:47 wannabe1987 .wa angy
01:47 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
01:47 angy :)
01:47 wannabe1987 Sythen we don't know until we're told
01:47 Sythen very true
01:49 * Toast-Away is bored with homework
01:49 angy You ought to finish!
01:49 Toast-Away I am typing a paper...
01:50 angy on what subject?
01:50 Toast-Away English clash
01:51 Toast-Away :P
01:51 angy I used to have fun in my english classes in engineering school
01:55 wannabe1987 how
01:55 angy BotSteve: should I have a drink?
01:55 BotSteve Definitely
01:55 angy bad bot!
01:55 wannabe1987 no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:57 wannabe1987 pumpkin banana muffins
01:57 angy add gin
01:57 Sythen i like banana
01:57 angy london dry gin
01:57 wannabe1987 mom done's thave gin, nor do i
01:58 wannabe1987 doesnt*
01:58 angy I'll bring you a bottle
01:58 wannabe1987 ok
01:58 angy hopefully I'll find vermouth and olives
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02:01 wannabe1987 i hear gin is an acquired taste....
02:01 angy you have to be brit to love it :)
02:01 wannabe1987 im not?
02:02 angy it's strange I have to say
02:02 Sythen gin is supreme
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02:02 Sythen i love the stuff
02:02 angy you're a brit :)
02:02 Sythen yup
02:03 wannabe1987 my rhum is from haiti....its kinda expensive :P
02:03 angy I tend to not drink rhum, it's a assassin alcohol
02:03 wannabe1987 huh
02:03 Sythen i am fully stocked on rum, gin, and jd
02:04 angy I have vodka, gin, vermouth and olives
02:04 angy and very old whyskies
02:05 Sythen i do have an 18 year old bottle of glen fiddich
02:05 angy I drink whiskies that have been aged in cherry cask mainly
02:05 wannabe1987 i now have rhum and diet coke :P
02:06 wannabe1987 the flower just fell over wtf :(
02:07 NeWtoz drugs are bad
02:07 injektion Alcohol isn't bad for you in moderation
02:07 angy it's bad when you're predisposed to certain types of cancer
02:07 wannabe1987 drugs?
02:07 angy alcohol
02:07 angy drugs are mainly bad in every situation
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02:08 injektion Cancer runs on my moms side of the family but do I care? Absolutely not
02:08 angy though I know some situation where heroin is a good helper
02:08 injektion The quicker I die the better
02:08 angy there are a lot of different cancer kinds...
02:09 wannabe1987 angy i know....theres 2 diff kinds in my family, well, 3....
02:09 Bat-Mobile angy: there are places that use heroin as a painkiller
02:09 Bat-Mobile Similar to morphine
02:09 Bat-Mobile or codiene
02:09 Sythen i survived 2 years homeless, and lived through the dead of winter in a carpark, if i get something like that, i will be pissed
02:09 Bat-Mobile or so I'm told
02:09 angy not really like these
02:10 angy but it's a very strong painkiller
02:10 angy and has a very interesting path of action for people that are resistant to painkillers
02:11 angy but nowadays, they tend to use methadone instead of heroin
02:11 angy has the same path for the painkiller part
02:12 angy but has a shitload of sides you have to be careful of
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02:14 injektion I got addicted to morphine in the hospital
02:15 angy that's usual
02:15 Sythen i tend to refuse pain killers
02:15 wannabe1987 moms in the ER now w/ dad.....
02:15 angy if you use morphine for more than 5-10 days, you're addicted
02:15 injektion I don't refuse painkillers
02:15 angy I'm mostly painkiller resistant
02:17 angy the last time I broke a rib, I was under codeine, and that barely dented the pain
02:17 injektion I shouldn't be given opiates for any reason due to my past history
02:18 Sythen i remember the last time i broke my leg, jesus wept, that was fun L)
02:18 Sythen :)*
02:18 injektion The complexities of what causes addiction
02:19 angy that generally depend on the person
02:19 tonsofpcs the last time I broke a toe, uh... I duct taped it to the one next to it for a few weeks :-p
02:19 angy :)
02:19 angy you can't really do anything with broken toes
02:19 tonsofpcs you can duct tape them to the one next to them (and possibly stick in mini splints)
02:19 tonsofpcs that's about it
02:19 Sythen i love techie first aid, last time i broke a finger, it was tissue paper and black electrical tape
02:20 tonsofpcs I'm not sure if I've ever broken a finger
02:20 Sythen it hurts
02:20 tonsofpcs yea, so does spraining a finger.
02:20 tonsofpcs like, I've definitely not broken one all the way through
02:21 angy the worst is when you crack a bone in your finger
02:21 wannabe1987 owwwwwww
02:21 Sythen ive been through what some would consider a few wars, kinda fun when i look back at it
02:21 * tonsofpcs broke a wrist in second grade
02:21 wannabe1987 i havn't broken anything yet *knock on wood*
02:21 tonsofpcs well, arm near wrist
02:21 tonsofpcs my wrist doesn't fully sit in the sockett
02:21 angy I mostly break toes and ribs
02:21 tonsofpcs i can roll it all day between the two halves...
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02:22 wannabe1987 hi BIZZAROHACKBAT
02:22 angy and tear a lot of muscle in the groin region
02:23 tonsofpcs I forget how I broke taht toe... all I know is I knew it was broken, set it myself, had someone else check it, then just cleaned it up and held it in place for a few weeks
02:23 injektion For one if your in Europe or anywhere that believes in giving local anesthetics for body piercings you do not know pain
02:23 angy it was very simple for me, I stopped a boat, and crushed all toes in the process
02:23 wannabe1987 my friend stabbed his leg and gave himself stitches.....
02:24 Sythen i got pretty good at stiches
02:24 angy another time, I did it with a door, walking in the morning
02:24 Sythen stitches*
02:24 angy I tend to be not that bad when stitching, but i'm very slow :p
02:24 wannabe1987 better slow and steady than fast and ugly
02:25 Sythen yup
02:25 angy Ok, I'll attack the next stranger I see in the street and give him stiches
02:25 Sythen i used to self harm, so i learned quickly
02:25 Katemonster ...
02:25 wannabe1987 ahhhh
02:25 Katemonster ...the people i associate with...  geez.
02:25 Katemonster http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/9806/caprisun.png
02:26 wannabe1987 lol Katemonster
02:26 Sythen if you wanna comment on it, go ahead hehe
02:26 wannabe1987 do you anymore?
02:27 Sythen no, i learned how to deal with my depression, i still deal with it today, but its rather controlable
02:27 wannabe1987 ahhh.  fuck depression.  i want mine to go away as well
02:27 Katemonster angy, why are you attacking strangers?
02:27 angy to stitch them
02:28 wannabe1987 need practice?
02:28 Katemonster it's not nice to attack strangers.  (do as i say, not as i do)
02:28 angy or to sell their organs, haven't decided yet
02:28 Katemonster lol
02:28 wannabe1987 Katemonster that was a weird link
02:28 Katemonster that was a conversation that just happened.  i was not part of it.
02:28 Sythen heh
02:28 Toast-Away Katemonster: !
02:28 wannabe1987 right
02:29 Katemonster toast!
02:29 * Katemonster turns power to 10 and depresses toast-making lever
02:29 angy He's my Toast!
02:29 Toast-Away How is you?
02:29 angy and he's doing his homework!
02:29 Bat-Mobile kate, that's a heck of a link
02:29 Toast-Away Not anymore... Have to take a shower... Then on to typing the paper
02:29 Katemonster lol
02:30 angy the bottom-most left corner is mine, I already start chewing on it
02:30 * wannabe1987 's parents don't know if they'll spend the night in the ER or not
02:30 Toast-Away Brb
02:30 Katemonster i'm thinking i might have to submit it to failbook.
02:30 wannabe1987 do it!
02:31 wannabe1987 .c oz in cup
02:31 BotSteve 8 US fluid ounces
02:31 wannabe1987 so if 8oz = 1 cup, and they want 15 oz, i need almost 2 cups?
02:31 wannabe1987 someone check my math!
02:32 wannabe1987 please?
02:32 wannabe1987 i suck
02:32 angy I don't know imperial maths!
02:33 wannabe1987 take away the cups/oz....then
02:33 angy you're right
02:33 wannabe1987 ok
02:33 wannabe1987 thx
02:33 angy get a cup and 7/8th of another one :)
02:34 angy or 1 cup, 1/2 cup, 1/4 cup and 1/8th of a cup
02:34 wannabe1987 well because i took about 1/2 cup out for the frosting, i used 1.5 c instead of 1 and 7/8ths
02:35 angy Массаракш
02:36 angy whoops, wrong window
02:36 wannabe1987 leeeeeeee
02:37 Sgt_Lemming morning all
02:37 Sgt_Lemming well... it's not even technically morning here
02:37 wannabe1987 morning sgt lemon king
02:38 Katemonster sergeant lemon king!
02:38 Sgt_Lemming lol
02:38 Katemonster hi
02:38 Sgt_Lemming lo
02:38 Katemonster i take full responsibility for your new nickname.
02:38 Sgt_Lemming s'ok
02:38 Katemonster i never said it wasn't :p
02:39 angy Danny Boodman T. D. Lemon 1900 ?
02:40 Katemonster ....?
02:40 Katemonster angy speak english.
02:40 angy from the movie ``The legend of 1900''
02:40 angy lemon king just made me thing of that
02:41 angy mais je peux aussi parler Français si tu veux Kate :)
02:41 angy ça ne me dérange pas du tout
02:42 angy and the strangest fact is that it's more difficult for me in some ways to speak french than english
02:42 Katemonster please don't taunt me with your strange words
02:42 angy anticonstitutionellement
02:43 angy variation synchrone
02:43 Bat-Mobile BotSteve: "mais je peux aussi parler Français si tu veux Kate ça ne me dérange pas du tout"?
02:43 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: "but I can also speak French if you like Kate that does not bother me at all" (fr to en, translate.google.com)
02:43 angy :)
02:43 Bat-Mobile Wow!
02:43 Bat-Mobile Good job BotSteve!
02:43 Katemonster yes, i already translated it :p
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02:43 angy that's no fun to have a translating bot
02:43 Katemonster lol
02:43 Katemonster what amazes me is how well translation software works for french to english.
02:44 Katemonster i've translated entire technical patents that way before and they were completely intelligible
02:44 Katemonster that doesn't work so well with some other languages.
02:44 angy they were huge progress in the past couple of years
02:44 Katemonster also: angy, you're fuckin' weird.
02:44 angy maybe because french people are lazy and don't learn enlgish
02:44 angy that I am, for sure
02:45 Katemonster lol
02:45 angy One of my brain hemisphere is lost, and the other did got try to find it
02:45 angy so I'm left without anything
02:46 wannabe1987 yay!  they're on their way home soon :D
02:47 Katemonster LOL
02:47 angy I hope
02:47 angy I'll need them both for my defense
02:48 angy btw, you're all invited :)
02:48 wannabe1987 shoulda seen the look on my brothers face seeing me in his door way....oops
02:49 angy I think my brother is currently in Japan
02:49 Katemonster wait what
02:49 Katemonster what are we invited to?
02:49 angy my thesis defense
02:49 angy all in French
02:49 Katemonster fuck that.
02:49 wannabe1987 who you talkin to kate
02:49 angy with strange big words ;)
02:49 Katemonster ...angy?
02:50 Katemonster if it were in russian i would go.  i wouldn't understand it any better but i'd try harder :P
02:50 wannabe1987 ok....i won't keep butting in :P
02:51 Katemonster do you have him set to /ignore?
02:51 wannabe1987 no....
02:51 Katemonster angy, what exactly is it that you do?
02:51 wannabe1987 i had said something and he replied and you went "wait what"
02:52 Katemonster i said "wait what" because i was confused about what angy had to defend himself from.
02:52 angy MRI imaging interpretation and intervertebral discs degeneration quantification
02:54 wannabe1987 ahhh
02:54 wannabe1987 sounds important :P
02:54 Katemonster fun.
02:54 angy mostly involve having fun with multi-million dollars machines
02:55 Toast-Away Back
02:55 Katemonster i knew a girl who went snowboarding her first time and decided the beginner slopes were boring so she went on a double black diamond slope after what, 2 or 3 hours of practice?  this resulted in a crushed disk
02:55 * angy starts chewing back his corner
02:56 Katemonster i have never seen someone so loopy from pain medication.
02:56 wannabe1987 lol
02:56 Katemonster she thought she was audrey hepburn for half an hour.
02:57 angy that should have been way fun
02:58 Toast-Away Lol
02:58 Toast-Away Why Audrey Hepburn, I wonder why...
02:59 Toast-Away *Why Audrey Hepburn, I wonder...
03:00 Katemonster i don't know.  i don't think she does either.
03:00 Katemonster i haven't talked to her in..... 7 years?  something like that.
03:00 Toast-Away Funny what medication does to you...
03:00 wannabe1987 audrey who?
03:00 Toast-Away Oh wow
03:01 Toast-Away I think she's a writer?
03:01 Katemonster lol
03:01 wannabe1987 i'm pretty sure she's an actress, toast
03:01 Toast-Away Shuddup
03:01 Toast-Away :P
03:01 Katemonster Audrey Hepburn is a famous actress from a looong time ago
03:02 wannabe1987 what, i can't poke fun of my own "shelteredness"?
03:02 Toast-Away Ooooh, yeah.....
03:02 Toast-Away Lol
03:02 Katemonster .wiki Roman Holiday
03:02 BotSteve "Roman Holiday is a 1953 romantic comedy directed and produced by William Wyler and starring Gregory Peck and Audrey Hepburn." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Holiday
03:02 Toast-Away Lol, you can wannabe
03:02 Sgt_Lemming 18 hours so far to do three full passes of memtest on this server
03:02 Sgt_Lemming less than I thought, but still a decently long time
03:02 wannabe1987 i was doing it for kate....
03:03 Katemonster :p
03:03 Sgt_Lemming for kate or with kate? :-P
03:03 Katemonster for.
03:03 angy with Kate is for me!
03:03 Sgt_Lemming lol
03:03 Katemonster that's right.
03:04 angy Kate, can I bring my Toast?
03:04 Katemonster ...no, no i don't think you can.  i think that would be illegal.
03:04 * angy have a lot of fun since Toast react to Toast
03:04 Katemonster give it 5 years.
03:04 Katemonster then we'll see
03:04 angy :(
03:05 Katemonster audrey hepburn was cute though.
03:06 Toast-Away angy :P
03:06 Sgt_Lemming yes, yes she was
03:06 Katemonster much better looking than katharine hepburn.
03:06 Toast-Away Hi Sgt_Lemming
03:06 Sgt_Lemming lo toast
03:07 * angy want his Toast!
03:07 Toast-Away *wants
03:07 Katemonster i want to strangle that woman every time she comes on screen.  and not in the good way.
03:07 Toast-Away And no
03:07 Toast-Away :P
03:07 Sgt_Lemming http://www.google.com.au/search?q=audrey+hepburn&amp;um=1&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;client=opera&amp;rls=en&amp;channel=suggest&amp;biw=1881&amp;bih=881&amp;tbm=isch&amp;source=lnt&amp;tbs=isz:l&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=SXdtToDiI8bjmAXoutSSBw&amp;ved=0CAoQpwUoAQ
03:08 Toast-Away Oh, Breakfast At Tiffany's
03:08 * angy is sad not to have his Toast
03:09 Katemonster she also fought in WWII.
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03:10 Sgt_Lemming I dunno if I would say fought
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03:10 Katemonster well
03:10 * lwq nibbles on the corner of toast
03:10 Katemonster semantics.
03:10 Sgt_Lemming she helped, but wasn't fighting
03:10 Sgt_Lemming so did a lot of other stars at the time
03:10 Toast-Away lwq
03:10 Katemonster mhm
03:10 Toast-Away Hi
03:13 lwq hi
03:13 lwq do you know how to set up a bluetooth ear thing with a ps3
03:14 Katemonster yes
03:14 Katemonster very carefully.
03:15 lwq can you tell me ive got it hooked up but it woulnt work in the game i want to use it in
03:15 lwq it say you can use one in it
03:15 * angy needs new business cards
03:15 Katemonster you talking about a bluetooth earpiece for a phone?
03:15 lwq yes...
03:16 lwq i found out how...
03:16 Katemonster i don't think you can use those as a gaming headset.
03:16 lwq it works on the ps3 menu
03:16 lwq yes you can
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03:17 wannabe1987 mom just asked me who weazer is...like i'm supposed to know :P
03:17 Katemonster HAHAHAHAHA
03:17 lwq lol
03:17 wannabe1987 i told her it was a band, plays kinda indie music
03:17 wannabe1987 :shrug:
03:18 Katemonster i don't think Weezer counts as indie rock
03:18 Katemonster they are listed as "alternative rock"
03:18 Katemonster .yt weezer buddy holly
03:18 BotSteve Katemonster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kemivUKb4f4
03:20 wannabe1987 Katemonster mom doesn't know the difference....so what does it matter?
03:20 Katemonster fair enough.
03:20 Toastdude Hi splint
03:21 splint Hey Toastdude
03:21 Bat-Mobile .yt weezer auto tune 13
03:21 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KucV8renOfI
03:21 Toastdude You new splint?
03:22 splint Yea, been wandering the channels most of the day trying to find a decent place to hang out...
03:22 Toastdude Lol
03:22 Katemonster LOL
03:22 Bat-Mobile hi splint
03:22 Toastdude Well, Welcome the The Geek Group!
03:22 Katemonster this is a plenty decent place to hang out.  welcome.
03:22 Bat-Mobile glad you're here
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03:22 lwq ok i got it working i think
03:22 * Katemonster starts dancing to weezer
03:23 splint Haha thanks everyone, seems like a legit place.
03:23 Toastdude Hi Bromance :P
03:23 Toastdude Warning: We are weird
03:23 wannabe1987 duh
03:23 Sgt_Lemming http://www.sinfest.net/comikaze/comics/2011-09-11.gif <--- lol
03:23 Toastdude Lol
03:23 splint Oh so interesting?
03:23 Toastdude Well, just telling him now...
03:23 wannabe1987 good way of putting it....interesting!
03:24 Toastdude Yeah, there you go..
03:26 splint Anyone seen serial experiments lain before?
03:27 Katemonster i've heard of it but haven't seen it.
03:27 splint Yea that's the same way i was, just started watching it today, it's way too good to be real.
03:27 Katemonster man i haven't watched anime in years.
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03:27 Toastdude Druidic!
03:27 Toastdude Hi
03:28 Katemonster why am i listening to auto-tune the news
03:28 splint Hah. i'm not that big into it usually, can't help it with this one though
03:28 Toastdude Idk...
03:28 Toastdude Which one?
03:28 Katemonster http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/lpo/
03:28 Toastdude No, which auto tune the news
03:28 Katemonster Toastdude: http://youtu.be/TpYIKF1wuyE
03:29 Katemonster i know.  have some patience.  geez
03:29 splint serial experiments lain, an anime.
03:29 Toastdude Lol
03:29 Katemonster lol, everyone is confused now.  i win
03:29 splint Fuck i just finished it actually -_-
03:29 Katemonster i think Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo ruined most other anime for me.
03:30 splint haha that's funny i was about to decide to make my way through Bebop.
03:30 Katemonster bebop is *fucking awesome*
03:30 Bat-Mobile kate: auto-tune 13 is the best one
03:30 Katemonster so much illegal product placement.
03:30 splint Yea i've seen a few episodes, love it..
03:31 Toastdude Bat-Mobile: I like #6 and #8
03:32 Katemonster http://youtu.be/Au1AO1xaEts
03:32 Katemonster ah, here comes that Nostalgia again.
03:32 splint Oh snap!
03:34 Katemonster Cowboy Bebop - Knockin' on Heaven's Door (official title of the movie)
03:35 splint that was pretty spiff.  I'd have to say out of any anime i think i like the intro to bebop the most.
03:37 Sgt_Lemming Bebop is by far and away my favourite anime
03:37 Katemonster ah, but
03:38 Katemonster by the same guy, Shinichiro Watanabe
03:38 Katemonster i gotta see if i can find a good fan-trailer
03:39 Katemonster http://youtu.be/6ANvMgx76SI
03:40 Katemonster there you go.
03:40 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
03:41 Sgt_Lemming eh, half the reason I really like bebop is because it's a sci-fi anime not about huge mecha
03:42 splint episode 1 here we go
03:42 Katemonster heh, that is true.
03:42 Katemonster splint: of which?  Bebop?
03:42 splint yea!
03:42 Katemonster sweet.
03:43 Katemonster heh.  Sgt_Lemming, you remember the episode Toys in the Attic?
03:43 Sgt_Lemming vageuly
03:43 Sgt_Lemming been a while since I watched it
03:44 Katemonster the "don't leave food in the fridge" episode
03:44 angy BotSteve: should I go vertical with my business cards?
03:44 BotSteve Reply hazy, try again later
03:44 angy damnit bot!
03:45 Toastdude BotSteve: should angy go vertical with his business cards?
03:45 BotSteve Definitely
03:45 Katemonster i had one of those scenarios today.  i found a dirty food container that had been forgotten about and had to wear my gas mask while i cleaned it out
03:45 Katemonster that was diiiiiiisgusting
03:45 splint could have just chucked it!
03:46 Sgt_Lemming grr, want this third pass to finish already
03:46 Sgt_Lemming getting more and more tempted just to cancel it and start installing the OS
03:47 Katemonster it was kind of an expensive piece, my mom would have been pissed.
03:47 Sgt_Lemming lol
03:47 Katemonster third pass of...
03:47 Katemonster ...?
03:47 Sgt_Lemming memtest
03:47 Katemonster ah
03:47 splint your mem is fine, promise
03:47 Katemonster my mem is terrible.
03:47 Katemonster ....what was i talking about?
03:47 splint your expensive plateware
03:47 Katemonster ohyeah
03:48 Katemonster i have no idea what it was that was growing in that thing but i decided it was best to kill it before it tried to talk.
03:49 Sgt_Lemming splint, I really have to be certain about this one
03:49 Katemonster what's this system you're working on?
03:49 splint Yea why so?
03:49 Sgt_Lemming cause it needs to be  reliable
03:50 Sgt_Lemming Katemonster, our new minecraft server
03:50 Katemonster oooooh.
03:50 Katemonster k
03:50 Katemonster <gir>i understand</gir>
03:51 Sgt_Lemming ...?
03:52 Toastdude GIR!
03:52 * wannabe1987 does not know of this GIR
03:53 Toastdude <Gir> Hi floor! Make me a sammich! </Gir>
03:53 splint What's it's use?
03:53 splint *its
03:53 Sgt_Lemming Katemonster, make me a sammich!
03:53 Toastdude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j41c8y9fyrQ
03:53 Toastdude THAT's Gir
03:53 Toastdude :D
03:53 splint sgt_lemming: you got a minecraft server?
03:54 Sgt_Lemming I help run one splint
03:54 Sgt_Lemming we are having performance issues atm though
03:54 Sgt_Lemming so trying to build up a new server for it
03:54 Katemonster .......
03:54 splint Yea? what was the issue? too many people, too many mods?
03:54 Sgt_Lemming bit of both
03:54 Katemonster see, this is the downside of being sheltered, wannabe.
03:55 wannabe1987 how does one get minecraft
03:55 splint minecraft.net
03:55 wannabe1987 what downside?
03:55 Katemonster not knowing about Invader Zim
03:55 Sgt_Lemming buys it wannabe1987
03:55 Katemonster and GiR
03:55 wannabe1987 i wonder if my computer can handle it
03:55 wannabe1987 o i know OF i just don't KNOW
03:55 splint not free, try playing the free online version
03:55 splint same place
03:56 angy Ok, I think I'm off, see ya!
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03:56 * angy hugs Toast
03:56 * angy hugs Kate
03:56 * Toastdude hugs angy and Kate
03:56 * Katemonster hugs angy in an inappropriate manner
03:57 * Katemonster does not hug Toast due to legal implications
03:57 * Toastdude tells Kate to wait five years
03:57 * Sgt_Lemming puts Toastdude in the time acceleration machine
03:57 Sgt_Lemming oops...
03:57 * Sgt_Lemming forgot to add food
03:58 * Sgt_Lemming removes Toastdude's dessicated husk from the machine
03:59 Katemonster LOL
03:59 Katemonster stale toast.
03:59 splint hah.
03:59 * Sgt_Lemming puts Toastdude's dessicated husk in the blender
03:59 Sgt_Lemming POWDERED TOAST MAN!
04:00 Toastdude YAY!
04:00 Toastdude Lol
04:01 Toast-Away Brb
04:01 Katemonster http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/4fqb/#by=sp
04:01 Toast-Away LOL
04:02 Sgt_Lemming harsh, so very harsh
04:03 Katemonster http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/1n45/#by=sp
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04:03 Toastdude Back
04:04 Katemonster http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/162199-staredad#.Tm2E2ezaJ8E
04:07 * Hackbat is sad
04:07 splint what's up?
04:07 Hackbat broke my laptop screen
04:07 Toastdude Aw... I'm sorry Hackbat
04:07 splint =/ failure.
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04:08 Toastdude splint: Failure
04:08 Toastdude :P
04:08 splint irony is the worst
04:08 Hackbat the latch on the table let loose and it tipped back
04:08 Hackbat it;s still usable
04:08 Hackbat just....ugly
04:09 splint maybe you can get a new one now that you have the reason to need it?
04:09 Hackbat lol no
04:09 Hackbat living at home on parents income
04:09 splint yea it never works like that huh
04:09 Hackbat plus
04:10 Hackbat my mom has to have surgery next monday
04:10 Hackbat after this one
04:10 splint Extensive?
04:10 Hackbat cosmetic
04:11 Hackbat one of her inplants deflated
04:11 Hackbat Implants
04:11 splint that's pretty unfortunate, never considered that that could happen.
04:11 Hackbat 10 year old water ballons?
04:11 Hackbat I'd of thought of it
04:12 splint i don't spend my days thinking about old fake boobs!
04:12 splint though maybe i should
04:12 Hackbat 11 years old in fact
04:12 Hackbat I would have thought of it
04:12 Hackbat I didn't
04:13 splint well that kind of blows.
04:14 Katemonster Tannerite: "We recommend only purchasing small amounts, as the temptation to blow it all up at once rises exponentially the more you have."
04:15 splint The heck is tannerite?
04:15 splint haha googled it, way cool
04:16 Katemonster lol
04:16 Katemonster correct answer: tannerite is *fun*
04:17 splint haven't shot anything in a long time, it's kind of lame =/
04:17 lwq -tackle hugs wannabe-
04:18 wannabe1987 o.O
04:18 lwq hi :P
04:18 * wannabe1987 is getting ready to head home for the night....
04:18 * Toastdude bor hugs lwq
04:18 wannabe1987 you be up when i get home?
04:18 Toastdude *bro hugs
04:18 lwq idk how long does it take you to get home
04:19 wannabe1987 20 min
04:19 lwq yes then
04:19 eadthem micro center now carrys sparkfun
04:19 wannabe1987 ok good
04:19 eadthem http://hackaday.com/2011/09/07/need-something-in-a-pinch-sparkfun-products-now-at-micro-center/
04:19 Katemonster Toastdude, in the interest of safety i cannot recommend hugging a boar.
04:20 wannabe1987 lol
04:20 Toastdude Thanks for the tip Kate
04:20 Toastdude :P
04:20 Katemonster of course.
04:20 wannabe1987 i'll be back /schwarzeneggar voice
04:20 Toastdude Lol
04:23 splint Hey anyone know where I could talk to anyone good with scripting, info / net security?
04:24 Toastdude Maybe Bat-Mobile?
04:24 Toastdude Idk
04:24 Bat-Mobile define "good"
04:24 Toastdude .seen CaptainNiobe
04:24 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw captainniobe 26.17 hours ago at 2011-09-11 02:13:59 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:24:28 UTC
04:24 Toastdude Darn...
04:24 Katemonster ...but she is still logged in.
04:25 CaptainNiobe i'm here, just not yet up to chatting... sorry...
04:25 Katemonster :(
04:25 splint hmmmm i'm pretty bad so really just anywhere i can bring it up
04:25 Katemonster bad day?
04:25 CaptainNiobe mmm... not really, just kinda preoccupied atm... :-\
04:25 Toastdude Sorry
04:26 Sgt_Lemming playing too much minecraft CaptainNiobe?
04:26 CaptainNiobe no worries, toast... :) i know you wanted me before, i'm sorry, i was sleeping then (pj told me)
04:26 Sgt_Lemming :-P
04:26 CaptainNiobe shut up, lemming :P
04:26 Toastdude Lol
04:26 CaptainNiobe lemming, what are you doing home? :D
04:27 Sgt_Lemming recuperating
04:27 CaptainNiobe ahh... fair enough... how many days off you got?
04:28 Sgt_Lemming just today
04:28 CaptainNiobe well, let us all hope it never happens again... *hugs*
04:30 * CaptainNiobe returns to building outdoor tree farm on minecraft
04:30 splint Captain, is it a public server?
04:31 Toastdude Btw splint: That's not Boden
04:31 CaptainNiobe no, i mostly play single player
04:31 CaptainNiobe and toast is right, i'm not chris
04:31 splint oh hah i just assumed you all played on the same server
04:31 CaptainNiobe i don't have the "parts" to be chris for one... :D
04:31 splint i'm a goof.
04:31 Toastdude Just to clarify...
04:31 splint lucky you!
04:32 Toastdude Lol
04:32 CaptainNiobe :P
04:32 Cprossu maybe you need to change your nick to 'notCaptainBoden' when in this channel.
04:32 Toastdude Hi Cprossu
04:32 Cprossu hi Toastdude
04:33 Toastdude "All the world seems in tune on a spring afternoon when we're "
04:33 CaptainNiobe hell no, i've been a captain longer than chris... i'm more than happy to keep telling ppl i'm not chris... :D i r rachael of australia... :D
04:33 Toastdude And I is Toast of Illinois :P
04:33 Cprossu either way you'd be explaining it, just one nick would be funnier to explain
04:34 CaptainNiobe lol... good point... :D
04:34 CaptainNiobe or... or...
04:34 TheOtherCaptain :P
04:34 Cprossu hahaha
04:35 Cprossu Captain Morgan?!
04:35 Toastdude Hi TheOtherCaptain
04:35 TheOtherCaptain who's captian morgan?
04:35 TheOtherCaptain :P
04:35 Toastdude Lol
04:35 TheOtherCaptain hey Toastdude :D
04:35 Toastdude TheOtherOtherCaptain
04:35 Cprossu a cheap brand of crappy rum...drink...stuff
04:36 Toastdude :D
04:36 TheOtherCaptain ahh... ok... lol... I'M NOT A BLOODY DRINK! :p
04:36 Cprossu there's a reason I ask
04:36 Sgt_Lemming Captain Morgan == Braincellicide
04:36 CaptainNiobe lol... ok... lol...
04:36 Cprossu CaptainNiobe: http://cdn.gunaxin.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Captain-Morgan.jpg
04:37 Cprossu ^ rofl.
04:37 Toastdude Wb CaptainNiobe
04:37 Sgt_Lemming siggh
04:37 Sgt_Lemming 3rd pass is still going on this damned thing
04:37 splint jesus.
04:37 CaptainNiobe yuk! :P and thankies, Toastdude...
04:38 Toastdude You left me hangin, Cprossu
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04:38 Cprossu wasm\t[auomg attemtopm
04:38 Cprossu *wasn't paying attention
04:38 Cprossu just like that
04:38 Toastdude Lol
04:39 Cprossu poisioning pidgeons in the park!
04:39 Toastdude Yay!
04:39 Cprossu sorry about that though
04:39 Cprossu watching some videos right now
04:39 Toastdude Lol, thats okay
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04:47 splint whois splint
04:47 splint lolz
04:48 Toastdude New Now Know How?
04:48 Toastdude Lol
04:49 splint well aren't you the poet!
04:49 Toastdude That's your "real name"
04:49 splint yea i uh, i'm not so sure on that
04:49 splint let me look at my interwebz
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04:52 Seroster OI!
04:53 lwq hi
04:54 ser0ster hi
04:54 * Katemonster is booooooooooooooooooooooooooooooored
04:55 Sgt_Lemming 19hours 43 minutes to do three full passes of memtest on this machine
04:55 * Sgt_Lemming is a happy Sgt_Lemming
04:55 Katemonster what's up lemon
04:55 Katemonster ah
04:55 Katemonster n/m
04:55 Sgt_Lemming lol
04:56 Sgt_Lemming just glad there are no errors
04:56 Sgt_Lemming 8 2GB memory sticks can be problematic
04:56 Katemonster i think you should run a fifth pass just to be safe.
04:56 Sgt_Lemming especially memory of this age
04:56 Sgt_Lemming hells no
04:56 Katemonster lol
04:56 Sgt_Lemming now I install an OS
04:56 Sgt_Lemming and start benching it
04:56 Katemonster debian!
04:57 Toastdude Hi Seroster
04:58 Sgt_Lemming indeed Katemonster
04:58 Sgt_Lemming debian is my favourite distro
04:58 Katemonster wow really?
04:58 Katemonster lol i just say that cause my mom's name is Deb so :p
04:59 Katemonster the only linux distro i have any experience with is Ubuntu.
04:59 Sgt_Lemming Ubuntu == Debian for nubs :-P
04:59 Katemonster LOL
04:59 Sgt_Lemming seriously
05:00 Sgt_Lemming Ubuntu is a simplified version of Debian :-D
05:00 Sgt_Lemming it uses the same package management system, lots of the same packages
05:00 Sgt_Lemming same basic structure
05:00 Katemonster i've always assumed Ubuntu == Linux for non-Linux people
05:00 splint I think that's what he is saying.
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05:01 Katemonster i'm the resident gun nut, i don't know shit about computers, compared to anyone else here.
05:01 Katemonster with the possible exception of wannabe and her minions
05:01 * wannabe1987 decided to come back, hope its ok
05:01 wannabe1987 what?
05:01 Katemonster what?
05:01 Bat-Mobile Ubuntu.  The Mac of Linux distros.
05:01 Experimentonomen i hate linux, its so friggin incompatible with everything, no manufacturers of puter parts supply drivers for linux because there are just not enuf users to justify it
05:01 NeWtoz Sgt_Lemming, I've had the same feelings
05:01 Katemonster LOL
05:01 Sgt_Lemming Debian may not be the most uptodate or fastest linux distro, but it's always stable and secure (well apart from one infamous lapse) and it's 100% open source code
05:02 wannabe1987 i think you and i know about the same amt of computer, kate :P
05:02 splint I've never had troube getting my stuff to work on *nix, never tried to do a terrible amount either but still
05:02 Toastdude Hi wannabe1987
05:02 wannabe1987 hi Toast-Away
05:02 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, most major manufacturers now do linux drivers, or at least support the community in creating drivers
05:02 wannabe1987 noes!  wrong toast!
05:02 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude
05:02 wannabe1987 hi lwq1996
05:03 lwq1996 poke
05:03 Sgt_Lemming IBM basically gave up on unix in favour of linux
05:03 NeWtoz the _only_ real problem I've ever had was getting 4 monitors to work together using two ATI cards, other then that, nothing
05:03 Sgt_Lemming and is one of the biggest corporate contributors of linux code
05:03 splint newtoz: that is a bitch anyway you look at it, not a huge deal but can be a problem or 2 anyways
05:04 Katemonster once upon a time i was pretty knowledgeable about hardware.  that was a long time ago, and it didn't hold my interest.  i was distracted by.... other things.
05:04 Sgt_Lemming under windows it's a lot easier these days
05:04 NeWtoz I found it impossible with ATI, but I could do it with nVidea
05:04 Sgt_Lemming but ATI's drivers are still pretty crappy, regardless of the OS
05:04 NeWtoz nvidia*
05:06 wannabe1987 Druidic_Rifleman what are you doing in toronto w/ guns?  so confused
05:06 Druidic_Rifleman traveling toa range
05:07 wannabe1987 ahhhh
05:07 wannabe1987 do it!
05:07 Katemonster .log
05:07 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
05:07 wannabe1987 piss em off!
05:07 NeWtoz Self-incrimination, beware
05:08 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
05:09 Druidic_Rifleman Th liberatrian party candidate a few years ago walked Down main street with a Swiss Arms PE90 a while back
05:09 Druidic_Rifleman Cops shat kittenswhen they realised they couldn't charge him with anything
05:10 wannabe1987 meow?
05:11 wannabe1987 exor674
05:11 exor674 meow
05:11 Seroster Morning, toastdude
05:11 wannabe1987 morning?
05:11 wannabe1987 eh.  it is past 12.....
05:11 Seroster Yeah
05:11 Seroster It's 7am
05:12 Bat-Mobile hi Seroster!
05:12 Seroster Gmorning battie
05:14 Sgt_Lemming lo bat
05:15 Bat-Mobile howdy sarge
05:15 Sgt_Lemming howsit?
05:16 Seroster Ahoy lemming
05:16 Sgt_Lemming lo seroster, how's things?
05:16 Seroster Crappy =D
05:16 Katemonster http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2011/09/12/sign-at-a-shooting-range-urinal/
05:16 Druidic_Rifleman Bat-mobile whats the smallest RC aircaft that Could carry a 20LBS pay load Ontop of fuel And every thing else
05:16 Sgt_Lemming heh, mines not too bad
05:16 Seroster lol kate
05:16 Sgt_Lemming Druidic_Rifleman, quite a large one
05:16 Sgt_Lemming probably 2m 6ft wingspan at least
05:17 Druidic_Rifleman I think i might know a way to make money
05:17 Sgt_Lemming aerial photos?
05:17 Druidic_Rifleman riot control UAV
05:17 Sgt_Lemming rofl
05:17 Bat-Mobile Katemonster: sign at an airport urinal:  "Pilots with low manifold pressure please taxi in, the next in sequence might not have a seaplane rating"
05:18 Sgt_Lemming ROFL!
05:18 Katemonster LOL
05:18 Katemonster very nice
05:19 Druidic_Rifleman I know i could sellone tochicago and toronto....
05:20 Druidic_Rifleman Cause i can prove where it could saved lives or propertyinboth case's
05:22 Druidic_Rifleman and i kill chat
05:22 Katemonster mmm frozen blueberry waffles.
05:23 Druidic_Rifleman I am hungry BRB
05:24 wannabe1987 ok eat food?
05:25 Toastdude Night all
05:26 wannabe1987 night toast!
05:26 wannabe1987 sleep well toast
05:26 wannabe1987 don't get buttered in the am! :P
05:26 Toastdude Okay... :P
05:26 Toastdude Sleep well whenever you do sleep
05:26 Katemonster kljagkjaf  groooooss.  i think it's time to clean the keyboard.
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05:32 wannabe1987 what'd you do to the keyboard, kate?
05:32 Katemonster i dropped a bit of waffle in between the keys and pulled the keys off to get it out.
05:32 Katemonster keyboards are gross.
05:34 Sgt_Lemming lol
05:34 wannabe1987 WAFFLE!
05:35 Sgt_Lemming http://uhhh.org/~lherzog/blog-images/board-chow.jpg <---- Katemonster
05:36 Katemonster LMAO
05:36 Katemonster yeah, like that.
05:37 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWO-EzoIbSs&amp;feature=related <--- fucking lol
05:37 Sgt_Lemming wearing a halter top and firing a weapon with an ejection port on top == bad idea
05:38 Katemonster erm.
05:38 Katemonster technically that's not a haltertop
05:38 Sgt_Lemming bah
05:38 Sgt_Lemming close enough
05:38 Katemonster lol
05:38 Sgt_Lemming it's still a bad idea
05:38 Katemonster i did that once with an SKS.
05:39 Katemonster i'd like to forget the experience.
05:39 Sgt_Lemming heh
05:39 Sgt_Lemming seen the movie blackhawk down?
05:39 wannabe1987 good movie
05:39 Seroster Aaaanyhow
05:39 Sgt_Lemming the seen where he gets a 7.62 shell from a GM134 down his shirt?
05:39 Seroster I'll be off to school now
05:40 Katemonster no, i haven't seen it
05:40 Katemonster but that would sting like a motherfucker
05:40 Katemonster (it's just M134)
05:41 Sgt_Lemming it can have multiple designations depending on mount, feed, rate and variant
05:41 wannabe1987 bye Seroster
05:41 Sgt_Lemming also different forces have different designations for it
05:41 Seroster And my board chow concists of pieces of metal and stray cat fur.
05:41 Bat-Mobile solong seroster
05:41 Seroster Omnomnomnom
05:41 Bat-Mobile I keep thinking that if she (in the video) would lean forward a little, the recoil wouldn't hit her as hard
05:42 Sgt_Lemming yeah
05:42 Sgt_Lemming commong mistake that one
05:42 Seroster Lol
05:42 Sgt_Lemming common*
05:42 Sgt_Lemming Bat-Mobile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyAl9qK3Rlg
05:42 Bat-Mobile Hey she did it!
05:42 Bat-Mobile Good for her
05:43 Bat-Mobile Right before the casing went into her shirt
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05:43 Katemonster that is true.  but according to the manufacturers, it's just the M134.
05:43 Katemonster GAU-17 in USAF service i'm pretty sure
05:43 * Hackbat is interested in airsoft
05:43 Katemonster but they don't count.
05:43 Seroster I've shot a weapon a total of like a dozen times in my life and I STILL know to lean forward.
05:44 Katemonster i want to build this. http://forum.saiga-12.com/index.php?/topic/65298-heavy-bull-barrel-psl-project/
05:45 Bat-Mobile Sgt_Lemming: yes, like that
05:45 Katemonster i want to do it with a fluted barrel, a muzzle brake, a more robust gas regulator and a more conventional and lighter buttstock, but i want it nonetheless
05:45 * wannabe1987 wants new feet please
05:45 Katemonster get in line, wanna.
05:45 wannabe1987 behind you or exor674?
05:46 Katemonster behind me.
05:46 * wannabe1987 gets in line
05:46 wannabe1987 ok
05:46 Katemonster exor674 wants a new spine.  that's two aisles over
05:46 * Sgt_Lemming just wants his old feet back
05:46 wannabe1987 where'd they go?
05:46 Sgt_Lemming i.e. from before I broke both heels
05:46 Seroster Stop handing guns to idiots, will ya?
05:46 wannabe1987 o.O
05:46 Katemonster yeesh
05:46 wannabe1987 Sgt_Lemming how'd you do that?
05:46 Seroster^Away He was out clubbing one night, and he fucked up his pumps...
05:47 Sgt_Lemming went down a dry water slide on a rubbish bin lid, hit the concrete pool wall feet first
05:47 Seroster^Away Is that so hard to believe? A guy having a good time?
05:47 Sgt_Lemming one heel in 9 pieces, the other in 3
05:47 * Bat-Mobile is no longer generating lift and begins to autorotate
05:47 Seroster^Away Ah. You were talking about THAT kind of heels?
05:47 * Sgt_Lemming nods
05:47 Katemonster i
05:47 Katemonster wait
05:47 Bat-Mobile goodnight all
05:47 Seroster^Away Are you in the air as we speak, Bat-Mobile?
05:47 Katemonster oooh
05:47 Seroster^Away I suppose not.
05:47 wannabe1987 night Bat-Mobile
05:47 Katemonster lol sleep well batsteve.
05:47 Sgt_Lemming bilateral fracture of calcaneus
05:47 Seroster^Away cya battie.
05:48 Bat-Mobile night wannabe1987, Katemonster, Seroster^Away, and everyone else
05:48 Bat-Mobile except you masterof monks.
05:48 Bat-Mobile for you it is only good morning
05:48 Katemonster goodnight Robert Zimmerman
05:48 * Seroster^Away giggles
05:48 Cprossu I know a doctor(former E.R. surgeon) who wants to make it mandatory to pass a class on how to properly kill yourself with before you're allowed to own a firearm
05:48 wannabe1987 Cprossu why
05:48 wannabe1987 and Sgt_Lemming that sounds painful
05:48 Seroster^Away Because people fuck it up
05:49 Cprossu because he was tired of fixing the fuck ups.
05:49 Seroster^Away And if you are going to kill yourself do it PROPERLY
05:49 Sgt_Lemming yes, it was painful enough they ended up putting me on ketamine in hospital
05:50 Katemonster if you're going to kill yourself, it should be done with high explosives.  that's hard to fuck up.
05:50 wannabe1987 Seroster^Away i'll ask for help.
05:50 Sgt_Lemming lol
05:50 wannabe1987 Katemonster what about thumper?
05:50 Katemonster i'm going to say that's possible (but not likely) to survive
05:50 Katemonster but idk for sure.
05:51 wannabe1987 i (sadly) have 2 friends who want to die via thumper
05:51 wannabe1987 i think they're crazy
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05:51 Cprossu I do too wannabe1987
05:51 Katemonster I do too.
05:51 wannabe1987 you want to die by thumper?
05:52 Katemonster They should want to go out with Gemini instead
05:52 Cprossu (the smartass comment here would be 'wait for stomper'
05:52 wannabe1987 or you think they're crazy
05:52 Katemonster LOL that works too.
05:53 wannabe1987 Cprossu why are men such jerks?
05:53 Cprossu to that I ask you why humans in general are such jerks :(
05:53 wannabe1987 i don't know
05:54 wannabe1987 but saying mean things then going "jk lol" doesn't work out well
05:54 wannabe1987 wish i had someway to enforce these things....
05:55 Cprossu meh, people do stupid things whether or not you enforce them from acting out a specific way of death.
05:55 Cprossu otherwise we wouldn't have the darwin awards
05:55 Cprossu alchohol seems to help out with that.
05:55 wannabe1987 the doing i don't mind (right now) its the saying thats continuing to bother me
05:56 wannabe1987 its a depressant and a depressed person should not drink
05:56 wannabe1987 makes it works
05:56 wannabe1987 will not do!
05:56 Cprossu people say things all the freaking time. especially if it seems ...what's a good word for it? fantastic but in a circus freak kind of fantastic??
05:57 Cprossu 'sensational' perhaps?
05:58 Cprossu my cat is talking to a moth.
05:58 Cprossu never mind it leaped up, grabbed the moth, and ate it.
05:58 Cprossu serves it right for hanging around
05:59 wannabe1987 smart cat!
05:59 Cprossu she's scary smart actually
06:00 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe
06:00 Cprossu she fetches objects too
06:00 Cprossu o_o
06:00 * wannabe1987 startles awake. yes?
06:01 * wannabe1987 should go asleep
06:01 lwq1996 yes you should
06:01 wannabe1987 so should you, young man
06:01 Katemonster wannabe1987: you'd never heard that before?
06:01 wannabe1987 and whats the face for, Cprossu
06:01 wannabe1987 its part of like a katy perry song or something
06:01 Katemonster erm, not that i'm aware of
06:01 wannabe1987 and yes i have hard
06:02 wannabe1987 not deaf
06:02 Katemonster then again i don't listen to her.
06:03 Katemonster ah, apparently it's in a Rihanna song.
06:03 wannabe1987 yeah.  that
06:03 wannabe1987 soemthing poppy
06:03 wannabe1987 idk
06:03 wannabe1987 and by "i never knew!" i' meant "I never knew you liked it that way"
06:05 * wannabe1987 must be invisible some places. gah. anyway bedtime before i go more crosseyed
06:07 Katemonster i'm all kinds of complicated :D
06:12 wannabe1987 you are girl.  so of course!
06:12 wannabe1987 its what we do/are
06:23 Katemonster this
06:23 Katemonster is
06:23 Katemonster AMAZING
06:23 Katemonster http://vimeo.com/redgiant/plotdevice
06:23 * wannabe1987 goes to sleep now
06:23 * wannabe1987 finds pants first....
06:25 Katemonster you don't need pants to sleep.
06:25 wannabe1987 yes i do.....
06:25 wannabe1987 i like pants
06:25 lwq1996 um i hate your not in your underwear
06:25 lwq1996 hope*
06:25 wannabe1987 no i'm in jeans
06:25 wannabe1987 i want sleep pants
06:26 * Katemonster decides to end this conversation before she gets too crude.
06:26 lwq1996 oh....i see pants and jeans as the same thing
06:26 * lwq1996 shuts up
06:27 Katemonster it's more fun if you use the non-american meaning of the word 'pants.'
06:27 lwq1996 VICOTRY I KILLED NAYN CAT
06:27 lwq1996 http://www.photoblip.com/pictures/3455/the-nyan-cat-is-dead.html
06:27 wannabe1987 lol
06:28 wannabe1987 trousers vs pants :P
06:28 lwq1996 lol
06:30 wannabe1987 *yawn*
06:30 wannabe1987 night lwq1996, kate
06:30 Katemonster bye.
06:31 lwq1996 night :(
06:31 wannabe1987 don't be sad
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07:03 Druidic_rifleman hey
07:05 splint yo, i'm peacing out for the night
07:05 splint sweet dreams ;)
07:06 lwq1996 hi druidic...im about to go too
07:06 lwq1996 i got school
07:11 lwq1996 night druidic
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09:05 Sgt_Lemming http://www.answersingenesis.org/get-answers/features/two-kinds-of-science?utm_source=homepage&amp;utm_medium=banner&amp;utm_campaign=two-kinds-of-science <--- fucking lol!
09:05 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, circular logic
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11:21 Sythen Good morning all
11:22 westmi sup!
11:22 Sythen hello westmi
11:34 MadManMarkAu1 Wow, stream is choppy as HELL
11:35 MadManMarkAu1 Even though it's the weather cam
11:35 Sythen that sucks. i wouldnt now, im not tuned it
11:43 yNos moin all
11:43 Sythen mornin yNos
11:44 yNos great ride in on the bike this morning, the sun was rising, poking through the clouds...
11:46 yNos pinks/oranges/reds and blues.
11:51 Sgt_Lemming what bike?
11:56 yNos st-1100
11:56 yNos my commuter
11:56 Sgt_Lemming not bad
11:56 yNos more bike than i should have..
11:57 yNos i have been running 350s and 500s for the past 15 years.
11:57 yNos a couple 125s mixed in there..
11:57 yNos i am a big fan of 500 singles.
11:58 yNos with or without balance shafts
11:59 yNos i rode an xr500 with an sr500 head for about 5 years, then the sr500 for about 3. and now this..
11:59 yNos i restored a honda ascot single earlier this year..
12:00 yNos that was a fun one.. the steering was a bit quick for me though.
12:00 yNos faster than the st 0.o
12:01 yNos the steering, not the bike..
12:05 tonsofpcs hi
12:07 yNos hey man
12:08 yNos the water receding yet?
12:09 tonsofpcs yea
12:09 tonsofpcs but it's raining....
12:09 yNos just what you need
12:09 tonsofpcs last I saw on the weather channel was that the conklin gage was at 11', flood stage is 12'
12:09 tonsofpcs not sure where the other gages are at
12:10 tonsofpcs mind you, it had crested to about 25'
12:12 yNos damn
12:12 tonsofpcs vestal crested at 35.26'... current is "broken", flood stage is 18', action stage is 15', predicted at 15.5' around noon today...
12:13 yNos how many cubic feet of water?
12:13 yNos :P
12:13 tonsofpcs http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph.php?wfo=bgm&amp;gage=vstn6&amp;view=1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1&amp;toggles=10,7,8,2,9,15,6&amp;type=0
12:13 tonsofpcs 129kcfs @ peak
12:15 tonsofpcs on Sept 4, we were at 5.36 ft @ vestal (4.64kcfs)
12:15 yNos damn.
12:15 tonsofpcs http://water.weather.gov/ahps2/hydrograph_to_xml.php?gage=vstn6&amp;output=tabular
12:16 yNos lemmy, did you read this one too?
12:16 yNos http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2009/04/03/feedback-does-science-need-god
12:16 yNos more poor logic..
12:34 yNos Sgt_Lemming ^
12:35 yNos http://www.prisonplanet.com/ron-paul-feds-preparing-for-%e2%80%9cbreakdown-of-law-and-order%e2%80%9d.html
13:14 * yNos wants to go goose hunting.
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13:19 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
13:29 yNos CaptainBoden: g'morinn
13:41 Sythen oh dban, you make my life soooo much easier
13:46 yNos easier than dd if=/dev/rand of=/dev/diskname bs=1024 ?
13:46 Sythen yup
13:47 yNos drop a disk in and walk away kinda easy?
13:47 tonsofpcs why set the bs?
13:47 yNos habit
13:48 Sythen yeah, alot of my time is devoted to supporting the users of the charity i work for, so dropping in a usb and pressing enter sames alot of time, and i dont even need to hook up a monitor 90% of the time
13:48 tlockley morning everuone
13:49 Sythen morning
13:49 Sythen well, afternoon heh
13:49 yNos g'mornin
13:49 yNos g'aftenoon!
13:49 tlockley afternoon Sythen
13:49 Sythen might need to put the kettle on in a moment
13:49 tlockley i do the same thing to people when its late here
13:51 yNos setup a macro that spits out g'mornin/aftnoon/evenin
13:52 Sythen heh
13:52 yNos tonsofpcs: bs sets the blocksize and speeds up the nuking of a disk
13:52 yNos i knew it speeds up the copying of disks, i wasnt sure if it did the same for /dev/rand.. but it does
13:54 Seroster Arr.
13:54 yNos arrrrrgggg
13:54 Sythen WAAARRRRGGGG
13:54 yNos aye maytee
13:58 Sythen mmm, i feel like playing some warhammer
14:04 Sgt_Lemming cp /dev/urandom /dev/null
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14:21 yNos yawn
14:21 Sythen tired?
14:25 yNos nah, boring meeting
14:25 Sythen i know the feeling
14:26 yNos meetings here in scase seem to be the requisite for managers breathing. meeting planning meetings are ridic
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14:27 yNos biggest waste of time
14:28 yNos ajprog_laptop: have you made a cantenna yet?
14:29 Sgt_Lemming yNos, working on making a waveguide for a friend
14:29 yNos aka "tin can waveguide antenna"
14:29 Sgt_Lemming 1GHz
14:29 yNos wghz?
14:29 yNos 1
14:29 yNos 1.5, or 1?
14:29 Sgt_Lemming 1GHz
14:29 Sgt_Lemming she is making a radar for her final year uni project
14:29 yNos hmm what is that band in your country of origin?
14:30 yNos ahh
14:30 yNos is that an ISM band, or similar?
14:30 Sgt_Lemming nfi, she asked for it, I'm doing it :-P
14:30 yNos cool
14:31 yNos gunn diodes, magnatron and cavity filter or something similar?
14:31 Sgt_Lemming no idea, just doing the waveguide for it
14:31 yNos ah
14:31 Sgt_Lemming steel pipe with slots milled in it most likely
14:31 yNos she is an ee?
14:31 Sgt_Lemming slotted waveguide
14:31 Sgt_Lemming doing it at uni yeah
14:32 yNos arent slotted waveguides normally kinda big and bi-directional?
14:32 Sgt_Lemming they are bi-directional if they have slots in both sides
14:32 yNos i have only seen 2 of them and they were slotted on 2 sides..
14:32 Sythen ii fittrd sma connectors to my routers, read for new antennas
14:33 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slotted_waveguide
14:33 yNos what is the beamwidth you are aiming for?
14:33 Sgt_Lemming 180° vertical, as narrow as possible horizontal
14:33 Sgt_Lemming slotted waveguide is ideal
14:35 yNos what are you making it out of?
14:35 Sgt_Lemming rectangular steel pipe
14:36 Sgt_Lemming if you check the wikipedia article there are links for how to make em for 2.4GHz stuff
14:37 Sythen there are a few videos ive seen that are rather good when it comes to 2.4ghz stuff
14:38 yNos didnt know if you were using rectangle stock or steel rain gutter.
14:38 yNos the ones that i have seen used rain gutter.
14:38 Sgt_Lemming rain gutter wouldn't work.... downpiping would
14:38 yNos thats what i meant, sorry
14:39 yNos am trying to stay awak during this gd meeting
14:39 Sgt_Lemming heh
14:39 yNos monotone speaker ftl
14:39 Sgt_Lemming your on irc in a meeting?
14:39 Sgt_Lemming you're*
14:41 Seroster When the teacher said "Do you know what resistor colour codes are?" the rest of the class was "Erm. What's a resistor?" and I was "Black Brown Red Orange Yellow  Green Blue Violet Grey White silver gold. "   I kinda want to kill myself.
14:42 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, why cause you're not completely ignorant?
14:42 Seroster Because I am so far in front of them I get bored
14:42 Sgt_Lemming yeah
14:42 Sgt_Lemming I had the same issue at school
14:42 Seroster And I have helped too much
14:43 Seroster So... People just ask me for help without even READING the question beforehand
14:43 yNos Sgt_Lemming:yes, we are doing a disaster recovery prep meeting.
14:43 yNos until 11:30
14:43 Sgt_Lemming ouch
14:43 yNos please shoot me.
14:44 * Sgt_Lemming shoots yNos with a NERF gun
14:45 Seroster Black Boys Rape Our Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly. Get Some Now.
14:45 Sgt_Lemming ...?
14:45 Seroster Yes?
14:45 yNos wow seroster.. that mnemonic device is....
14:45 yNos umm
14:45 Seroster Old?
14:46 Seroster Racist?
14:46 Seroster Sexist?
14:46 yNos yeah...
14:46 Seroster All of the above?
14:46 yNos uh-huh
14:46 ajprog_laptop yNos: nope, I have never made one
14:46 Seroster Yeah, fuck it being sexist, it's the sole purpose of it to be funny, witty, sexist, racist and MEMORABLE
14:46 Seroster And it's the only resistor mnemonic that actually forms a coherent sentence.
14:47 yNos Bad boys rail our young girls behind victory garden walls
14:47 Seroster That makes no sense to me
14:49 NeWtoz this explains a lot
14:49 Seroster The mekatronics teacher said a lot about actuators and cylinders, but what people remembered is when he took a contactor and ran it on mains power, it jumping all over the place.
14:49 yNos Better Be Right Or Your Great Big Vagina Gets Wet.
14:49 Seroster That's better, but still neither pg13 nor PC
14:50 yNos nop..
14:51 yNos ajprog_laptop: if you get the stuff needed to make one, i will make one with you.
14:51 yNos it is well documented on youtube and in text on teh inner-tubes
14:52 yNos .g "cantenna howto"
14:52 BotSteve yNos: http://www.turnpoint.net/wireless/cantennahowto.html
14:53 ajprog_laptop I checked the router I got from Cprossu and it doesn't have a detachable antenna and I don't think any of my other ones do either
14:56 Sgt_Lemming all mine do, one of the things I always look at when buying one
14:56 Sgt_Lemming my best AP's have twin SMA antenna connectors and do 200mW output
14:56 Sgt_Lemming they are awesome
14:57 yNos there was one in the sheep room. i am not sure if you can transplant one of the wrt's into a besfr(dont remember if that was its model name) and use it's antenna bits.. but we can at least mod a case to accept a remote antenna..
14:57 yNos time for meeting B
14:57 yNos :(
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14:58 kokona_ hi every one
14:59 Sgt_Lemming night all, sleep time
15:00 yNos g'night
15:00 kokona_ what i just got here
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15:10 Serostern ARRRRGH
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15:16 Sythen silly mirc, why you crash on me?
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15:41 angy hi there
15:42 Cprossu not sure why Sythen.. it's stable for me =/
15:45 Seroster Today I got 5 meters of heavy gauge ground cable
15:46 Seroster .... In one foot increments. :c
15:51 angy you can try modern art
15:56 Seroster Or solder
15:57 Seroster Eihter I'll crimp it, solder it, wireclamp it..
15:59 Sythen oooo weather warnings
15:59 Sythen lovely
15:59 angy ajprog_laptop: ping?
15:59 Sythen pong
15:59 SparkyProjects Sythen, there have been warnings for a few days now, the remnants of hurricane Katia
16:00 Sythen i just thought it was giants fans and jets fans causing the wind
16:00 SparkyProjects http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14880235
16:00 Sythen meh, tis only wind
16:01 ajprog_laptop angy: yep
16:01 angy you got access
16:01 ajprog_laptop thank you
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16:02 angy you familiar with git?
16:03 CaptainNiobe|AFK 'night everyone :)
16:03 Sythen g'night
16:03 Sythen depends how old he is angy
16:04 angy older than me ;)
16:04 Sythen then hes an old git
16:05 Sythen i think paul qualifies for the title of "old git"
16:07 angy git-scm was what I was talking about
16:10 SparkyProjects I think i qualify for 'ancient git' then :P
16:11 angy there is an esater egg into bossy for that:)
16:11 Experimentonomen my psp arrived today
16:13 Cprossu old enough firmware to hack easily?
16:21 angy I need another tea
16:32 Sythen mmmm tea
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16:39 Experimentonomen hack ? im not gonna hack it!!
16:40 Sythen thats like having a cup of tea and not drinking it lol
16:41 tlockley_mobile What are you hacking?
16:43 Experimentonomen i need a mem stick for it though, few seconds in, theb game pops up the "wanna quit the game?" screen
16:49 Seroster http://www.wimp.com/iceman/
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16:59 kokona :)
17:02 yNos Another lunch, well executed
17:03 Experimentonomen had anything nice ?
17:03 angy how did you killed it?
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17:05 kokona_ damn i can't change my nick
17:06 angy now you can
17:06 kokona_ cool
17:06 kokona yes
17:07 kokona i wanted to get rid of the "_"
17:07 angy you were still not time-out with the ``kokona'' so it couldn't take it
17:07 angy and that sentence is really incomprehensible
17:08 kokona the underscore
17:08 kokona _
17:08 SparkyProjects Also known as a tail
17:08 kokona yes
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17:09 kokona this was the first time that i was pinged out of the room from lag
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17:10 kokona what is crohakon doing
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17:10 SparkyProjects coming and going :P
17:10 kokona lol
17:11 kokona wow ur witty
17:11 angy writing lines into the channel :)
17:11 kokona that was smart
17:11 kokona coming and going :D
17:23 yNos anyone want a fugly car?
17:23 yNos http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/cto/2549720114.html
17:24 * Experimentonomen uploads a vid
17:24 yNos Experimentonomen: a chicken salad with almonds and apples...
17:24 kokona it has potential
17:25 yNos imho, the gremlin was an ugly fcking car.
17:25 yNos though, i am a big fan of the eagle..
17:25 kokona well yhea
17:25 yNos so i guess i cant say much
17:25 kokona lol
17:26 kokona i have a 1965 ford falcon
17:26 Experimentonomen i dont own a car, i have a license but i never drive
17:26 Experimentonomen i prefer to walk
17:26 kokona i put a hemmi in it
17:27 kokona lol
17:27 yNos i live 40ish minutes from work
17:27 yNos i have to drive
17:27 yNos unless i telecommute
17:27 Experimentonomen i live around 20-30 minutes away from work
17:28 yNos my other fun car was a '70 beetle with a subaru stuffed in back.
17:28 kokona i live on the property my shop is on
17:28 yNos a 11.6 second car that i couldnt keep CVs togather with.
17:28 Experimentonomen but i've walked for around 2-3 hours straight once, only stop was for a hotdog
17:28 kokona so im like 30 seconds away
17:28 yNos cant complain about that.
17:29 yNos i enjoy driving/riding too much.
17:29 Experimentonomen i dont like driving
17:29 yNos you in the city, or more country setting?
17:29 Experimentonomen me ?
17:29 yNos yupyup
17:30 Experimentonomen a small city
17:30 Cprossu I really need to make some money lol
17:30 yNos Cprossu? why now ?
17:30 yNos new project in mind?
17:30 Cprossu my minivan project needs cash to move.
17:30 Cprossu old project delayed
17:30 yNos Experimentonomen: i live outside a small/medium city.
17:30 yNos ahh
17:30 kokona the guy in the dog house says " my girl wanted me to get her something that goes from 0-200 in 3 seconds so i got her a scale."
17:30 yNos more country setting.
17:31 Experimentonomen if i wanna go somewhere i cant walk, i take a bus
17:31 yNos HAHAHA
17:31 Cprossu good one lopl
17:31 yNos 20 minutes to the closest bus stop
17:31 yNos for me
17:31 Experimentonomen i can be at the bus stop in 5 minutes from where i live
17:32 angy the bus stop is nearly right in front of my door, but I don't like buses
17:32 Cprossu kokona 1/4 mile in 13.5 @ or around 115 would be fine with me
17:32 kokona lol right
17:32 Cprossu 1989 dodge caravan.
17:32 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zg3vcus8eA <-- heres some scenery from around my place
17:32 yNos i am with angy.. to get to the places i need to go the bus would take a couple hours...
17:33 Cprossu (turbo though haha)
17:34 Cprossu which is enough to give 5.0's, cameros, and local ricers a run for their money.
17:35 Cprossu and the best part kokona is there is no 'losing'
17:36 kokona isn't that right?
17:36 yNos http://www.turbovan.net/van.html
17:36 yNos lololololol
17:37 Cprossu welll... if a guy in a lane beats a caravan, so what you beat a fricken' minivan.
17:37 Cprossu if the minivan wins though.
17:37 Cprossu heh heh heh
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17:37 kokona yNos: take a look at my facebook i got some carts that reach 100+ mph
17:37 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6-CADcY4KU
17:38 Cprossu ^ Hillarity ensues.
17:38 wannabe1987 hi kokona, yNos, Cprossu, etc
17:38 yNos hey there
17:38 kokona hi
17:38 angy I don't like turbos most of the time
17:38 kokona yNos: http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001519105422
17:38 kokona tell me what u think i built them myself
17:39 yNos back on the farm, we once pasted an 80something honda 750 dohc into a cart. stoopidfast...
17:40 kokona the beefy one got taged on another website so its not the origenal pic
17:41 yNos i dig the swingarm/no-diff setup on the one with the harbor freight motor.
17:41 kokona how is wannabe1987 today
17:41 yNos missing ifs though..
17:41 wannabe1987 alive
17:42 wannabe1987 i had artprize orientation this am :)
17:42 yNos at least for our area.. no front suspension == broken frames
17:42 kokona right i thought of that wile i was powernaping
17:42 kokona cool
17:42 yNos orientation?
17:42 kokona how did it go?
17:42 yNos what are you doing there?
17:43 wannabe1987 wayfinding
17:43 kokona yNos: it took me 1.5 years  to finnish that beefy cart
17:44 kokona it huals ass
17:44 Experimentonomen hauls :P
17:44 kokona ty
17:44 yNos naw, it goes so fast it mash's the spelling ;)
17:44 kokona yes
17:44 yNos fast or quick?
17:45 kokona can u say 235 on the freeway
17:45 kokona lol
17:45 kokona scared me shitless
17:45 yNos a land speed racer is fast.
17:45 yNos but not nessisarily quick
17:45 yNos how fast does it get up'n go?
17:46 yNos the 750 in a cart frame was fast and quick
17:46 kokona this littlel beast goes 1/4 mile in 5
17:46 yNos o.0
17:47 wannabe1987 hmmmm how to charge the computer outside.....theres not enough power outlets.  eh.  i'll let it sit in here and charge while i use the loud power equip (elec trimmer and the like) and grab it for vacuuming the pool (music!)
17:47 * yNos is dubious of you claim
17:47 kokona afk?
17:48 wannabe-afk away from keyboard
17:48 wannabe-afk ....
17:48 yNos kokona: this one? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=212603952133573&amp;set=a.136326756427960.23578.100001519105422&amp;type=1&amp;theater
17:48 kokona k
17:49 kokona yes what about it
17:50 kokona yNos: ?
17:51 yNos that is a how many horse engine? 3-4, right?
17:51 NeWtoz laffy taffy joke: where do computers go on a saturday night?
17:52 kokona its a 5 and i got a drailer hook up inbetween the 2 back tiers it tops out at 105 mph
17:52 angy 1/4 in 5, that would be a final speed of 267mph Oo
17:52 kokona the space bar
17:52 NeWtoz to a DISC-O
17:52 kokona lol
17:53 kokona something like that
17:53 yNos just doesnt sound right.. do you have a video?
17:53 kokona 267 sound right
17:53 yNos but the amt of torque required doesnt..
17:53 kokona no sorry ill get try and get one though
17:53 angy even with my racing prototype, I can't match that
17:54 kokona its all in the power to whight ratio
17:54 kokona really
17:54 angy hum... my pro to is less than 100Kg and is powered by a long stroke v8
17:54 kokona it went hella faster than i expected
17:54 angy that dev roughly 780bhp
17:56 kokona thats wicked cool
17:57 yNos kokona: my st-100 makes about 125 hp and weighs about 500 lbs. it does 0-60 in about 4 seconds, 1/4 in about 13.8, with 2 shifts.
17:57 yNos **st-1100
17:57 Cprossu yikes kokona at those speeds aero really f's with you though
17:58 yNos yeah...
17:58 Cprossu I refuse to get facebook so I can't see what I am looking at
17:58 kokona full body cevlar
17:58 angy I just looked at the picture
17:58 angy passing 180mph, you'll break your neck
17:58 angy impossible to stand on that kind of seat, you'll definitely die
17:58 Cprossu hell the pro stock motorcycle guys break 190...
17:58 kokona the over all weight is around 380lb
17:59 angy no the same position :)
17:59 angy let me grab my number crunching machine
18:00 kokona its a body supoting seat
18:00 Cprossu same here
18:00 kokona *suporting
18:00 yNos that suspension scares me...
18:00 yNos the front anyway...
18:00 yNos more than the seat..
18:01 kokona it was a sper of the moment reckless idea
18:01 yNos over 80ish little bumps will feel like really big ones..
18:01 Seroster In your average quartz crystal (the centimeter sized ones) - is the tuning fork big enough to see?
18:01 yNos and no brakes on the front going over 60ish is very dangerous..
18:01 kokona sounded fun  so i built it
18:02 kokona lol i never said it was safe
18:02 yNos the rear wheel locks up and that will fishtail like a madd mofo
18:02 kokona no i coasted to a stop
18:02 yNos unless you are used to dirt tracking/ice racing ;)
18:02 yNos ahh
18:02 Cprossu let's see, radprocalc-wrong calc, bombcalc-wrong calc, ddr3timingcalc-wrong calc, fsbmultiplyercalc-wrong calc...physicalcontrolcalc-wrong calc.... I know it's here somewhere.... Logiccalc-wrong calc, hp48calc-wrong calc, tiemucalc-wrong calc..... why didn't I put this damn thing in a easy to find place?!... grrrrrrr
18:03 kokona it took for ever too
18:03 yNos hf wheels too?
18:03 yNos Cprossu: too bad you arent sitting at a big freakinc calc right now...
18:03 angy use you hp48
18:03 angy that's what I'm using
18:04 Cprossu I have a 48G
18:04 kokona lol
18:04 Cprossu and a 32SII
18:04 angy 48GX :p
18:04 Cprossu and a bunch of others too
18:04 yNos echo "my calculation"|bc -l
18:04 Cprossu the 32SII gets the most use though.
18:04 kokona if only u guys acculy knew me
18:04 Cprossu because no one knows how powerful it was back when I was testing and shit
18:04 Cprossu you ever see a 32SII angy?
18:05 Cprossu it looks like a 'normal' scientific calculator
18:05 angy I had one, once
18:05 kokona i still use mine
18:05 yNos kokona: we see a lot of false claims... normal stance is strip ticket, video or some other sort of verification.
18:05 Cprossu great machines.
18:05 Cprossu http://www.voidware.com/calcs/images/hp32sii-1.jpg
18:06 Cprossu yeah we're big on time slips.
18:06 Cprossu if it didn't run it it didn't run it
18:06 Cprossu like my freaking dodge neon does all of 17.95 =P
18:06 yNos the new VholdRs have built in GPS
18:06 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eI179HB8r0
18:06 yNos datalogging is ba
18:07 angy 380lbs / 267mph in 5 seconds, I roughly calculate 400bhp
18:08 Cprossu so ~400 crank, ~50 lost in the transmission/tires = ~450 at crank?
18:08 brousch_ Has anyone heard of Xipherspace, a hackerspace starting in Kalamazoo? http://xipherspace.org/index.php/Main_Page
18:08 Cprossu *~400 wheel
18:08 angy I'd say more, I did not take in account the air resistance
18:09 Cprossu ok so the numbers about match up
18:09 angy I'd settle between 475-500
18:09 Cprossu the question is the old mass vs air resistance issue
18:09 angy you got it
18:09 yNos and the RPMs the little wheel's would have to be moving would kill most bearings..
18:10 Cprossu yeah ceramic bearings would be for the win there
18:10 angy you need alpha bhp to accelerate from 0-60, then you'll need alpha more to accelerate to 75
18:10 angy and so on
18:10 yNos but they look like harborfreight wheels..
18:11 kokona close
18:11 kokona not ceramic
18:11 Cprossu well they're not air bearings
18:11 kokona no
18:11 angy someone got a guess on the wheel size?
18:11 Cprossu and fluid bearings can't really take the forces
18:11 kokona guess again
18:11 Cprossu meaning angular
18:12 kokona the 4 back are 10"
18:12 yNos 10 inch rims, or 10 inches in total?
18:12 kokona the 2 front are 6"
18:12 kokona rim
18:13 Cprossu needle bearings could take it. but if they came apart it would truely suck to be you.
18:13 kokona no guess again
18:13 angy won't turn with needle
18:14 angy 2800 rpm, that can be done with any bearings
18:14 Cprossu they aren't maglev either... does anyone have a non-facebook-login pic I can look at?
18:15 angy hum,, messed my units :p
18:15 angy I hate imperial!
18:15 kokona no speatial bearings
18:15 Cprossu at least you don't work for NASA angy
18:16 angy I worked for airbus you know
18:16 Cprossu that's fine!
18:16 Cprossu I mean getting blamed for stupid metric/imperial failures that happen
18:16 angy and we had a f*cked up contractor that did it in inches
18:16 kokona anyone up?
18:16 angy INCHES!
18:16 Cprossu because we're too stupid to use just metric.
18:16 Cprossu rofl angy
18:16 angy we got a panel like 25 times too big
18:17 angy I was so mad that day
18:17 Cprossu well you didn't crash a space probe that took months to get to it's place at least
18:17 kokona the bearings i used were made of artificial ruby
18:17 angy nope, I sent it back :p
18:18 angy ceramic bearings though
18:18 kokona cuase there isnt enugh dimond that big naturaly avalable
18:18 kokona no artificial ruby
18:18 angy that _is_ ceramic
18:19 angy it's the low end of ceramic bearings
18:19 kokona well if u get technical yes i supose
18:20 * kokona makeing pizza
18:20 angy but I want to see the video of that doing the 1/4 in 5s
18:20 Cprossu and I want to see the video of anyone there shitting bricks
18:20 angy I'm with you Cprossu
18:20 kokona i dont have a big enough strip on my land
18:21 Cprossu though depending on the day you _could_ be thrown off the track
18:21 angy if you try to take a turn I bet you'll be
18:21 Cprossu where you at kokona? locationally?
18:21 angy it does not seems to have a gearbox, so I can't see it doing the 1/4 in 5s
18:21 tlockley Cprossu or yNos I have a quick fan question
18:22 yNos looks like 3 inches or rubber.. so lets say it is 16 inches in diam, 50 inches in circ. 1267ish rotations per mile. at 70 mph, how many rpms?
18:22 kokona NM i could build a strip though
18:22 Cprossu go ahead tlockley
18:22 angy like 1500-ish?
18:22 Cprossu the only strip that might be smooth enough is in charloette (zmax dragway)
18:22 angy I'm very bad with imperial :p
18:22 tlockley small pc style fan three wire red, black, yellow. is that 2 speed or something different?
18:23 tlockley i need to test if they are bad
18:23 kokona not too shur on rpm's i havent done a timing on it
18:23 Cprossu nah it's a tach @ tlockley
18:23 tlockley so one wire is speed measurement?
18:23 Cprossu sometimes they use it for other things, but most of the time it's a tach.
18:23 Cprossu yeah.
18:23 yNos yah, yellow is a pulse iirc..
18:23 tlockley what is the best way to test those fans?
18:24 yNos 9v batt?
18:24 tlockley they are from a netgear prosafe 48port
18:24 Cprossu plug them into 12v, if they buzz they are bad.
18:24 Cprossu if you can't move the blade very well, it's bad
18:24 tlockley shit
18:24 tlockley all 4 are toast
18:24 Cprossu ok now that I said this
18:24 Cprossu tlockley what brand are they?
18:24 Cprossu because here's what you need to do
18:24 kokona nore do i have meaters on it i calculated the speed with D/TxS formula
18:25 tlockley sunon
18:25 Cprossu ok, ball or sleeve bearing?
18:25 tlockley hangon i am gonna get one ouit
18:25 kokona ball
18:25 angy 70mph @ 16in is 735rpm
18:26 tlockley it doesent say, just says maglev under the brand name
18:26 Cprossu 1) rip label off of back, 2) take off plastic slip ring off (or if you are unlucky a metal one) with a small flathead screwdriver, 3) take blade assembly out, 4) get some turbine oil if you have any and lubricate everything..
18:26 Cprossu oh shit... maglev?
18:26 Cprossu well it's still worth a shot.
18:26 Cprossu are they at least 80mm's tlockley?
18:27 tlockley well one had  some shitty solder work so two of the wires came off of one of them
18:27 Cprossu or the really really small 40's and 50's?
18:27 tlockley really small
18:27 tlockley they came out of a 1u case
18:27 Cprossu just replace them.
18:27 tlockley best place to get some?
18:27 Cprossu get papst fans.
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18:27 Cprossu good question, those suckers are small
18:27 angy papst are great
18:27 Cprossu I'd chose them or NMB.
18:28 Cprossu for the smaller ones.
18:28 mashpriborintorg hello
18:28 tlockley hey mashpriborintorg
18:28 yNos papst blue ribbons ftl
18:28 angy hi mashpriborintorg
18:28 yNos hey there mashpriborintorg
18:28 tlockley well this is a PITA
18:28 Cprossu I knew that was coming yNos
18:28 yNos welcome to the internet :)
18:28 mashpriborintorg hiya
18:28 Cprossu PAPST not PABST!
18:28 yNos ;)
18:29 yNos http://www.lynxmotion.com/ViewPage.aspx?ContentCode=wheelspeed
18:29 yNos cool
18:29 mashpriborintorg I already saved some fans, there is sometimes a circlip behind the sticker
18:29 tlockley ofcourse if you want something to laugh at, this switch is supposedly "stackable" so you can internconnect them over HDMI
18:29 angy I like lymxmotion more and more :p
18:29 Cprossu damn sidewinder, although carrying some really annoying 40 and 50mm fans they don't have any papst this time around
18:29 kokona i just got don watching POWDER
18:30 kokona good movie
18:30 mashpriborintorg a good clean and a drop of oil can be enough
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18:30 angy tlockley: hdmi or weird old 40gbe cable?
18:30 tlockley the fan is in-seperable from the motor
18:30 tlockley legit hdmi
18:30 Cprossu yNos - http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/delfub.html <-HEARING LOSS FOLLOWED BY DEATH.
18:30 tlockley it  says so on the site and i have used them like that
18:31 tlockley just silly tho
18:31 yNos Cprossu: why?
18:31 Cprossu look at size vs rpm vs air flow
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18:32 Cprossu speaking of which tlockley
18:32 Cprossu give us a sunon model #
18:32 Cprossu so we can give you a similar cfm fan
18:32 tlockley KDE1204PFVX
18:33 Cprossu loud suckers those were.
18:33 Cprossu every one I've ever seen has been siezed.
18:33 ajprog_laptop dr_jkl: are you in?
18:38 tlockley fuck i hate 120
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18:38 Cprossu you going for low noise or high life tlockley?
18:38 tlockley preferably high life but ill take what i can get
18:39 Cprossu 40x10 kind of limits us
18:39 tlockley figured
18:39 Druidic_Rifleman Any one Wanna help a live stream channel that will become a Justin.tv channel thats wow/gamming related?
18:39 tlockley I just want the thing to work-ish without catching fire
18:39 Cprossu http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=52F6779&amp;CMP=AFC-GB100000001
18:39 Cprossu hrmmmm
18:40 Cprossu that looks like it should work.
18:40 Cprossu I'd rather get something ball bearing though
18:40 Cprossu even if papst's sleeves are nice.
18:40 Druidic_Rifleman Cprossu?
18:40 Cprossu nope I'm not into wow.
18:40 Cprossu or eve for that matter
18:40 Druidic_Rifleman ah
18:41 Druidic_Rifleman My friend runs the channel And needs help Figuing out the audio
18:41 Cprossu I'll answer any software questions/video card capture questions though if I am bored.
18:41 Cprossu win 7?
18:41 tlockley those are a little expensive tho
18:41 tlockley but worth it if they last
18:41 Cprossu if you wan't cheap we can do cheap.
18:41 Druidic_Rifleman windows XP
18:41 yNos http://www.woodtv.com/dpps/news/international/explosion-at-nuclear-plant-in-southern-france-wd11-jgr_3939923
18:42 Cprossu http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/de40ef.html
18:42 Cprossu oooh a wast facility phew
18:42 Cprossu *waste
18:43 Druidic_Rifleman Does any one know how to import the audio from lets play into live sream?
18:43 Cprossu Druidic_Rifleman he needs to change his recording device to 'stereo mix'
18:45 Cprossu just go to volume control, options, properties, click recording, make sure 'stereo mix' is checked' and click ok. then checkmark "select" under stereo mix and increase the volume.
18:47 Druidic_Rifleman Hee's trying this
18:47 Druidic_Rifleman thanks Cprossu
18:47 mashpriborintorg yeah we made it
18:47 tlockley Cprossu: I am gonna get them because i want it to last. just commenting on how expensive a tiny fan like that is
18:48 mashpriborintorg I believe they put something wrong in that furnace
18:50 Druidic_Rifleman If there are ay wow fans http://www.livestream.com/mud2mmo
18:51 Cprossu yeah tlockley
18:51 Cprossu papst doesn't ever come cheap
18:51 Cprossu sadly
18:52 tlockley well the swith is decent enough that i can justify it
18:53 tlockley netgear GS748TS
18:53 Cprossu nice
18:53 Cprossu netgear's pro stuff works well.
18:53 tlockley indeed. plus the for SFP ports are nice
18:53 tlockley *four
18:54 tlockley and the rackable stackable this is cool
18:54 tlockley though i dont know how i feel about trusting it
18:54 tlockley *thing
18:54 Cprossu I just like the fact for the most part netgears just work and don't complain.
18:54 tlockley exactly
18:54 Cprossu meaning not their consumer stuff.
18:54 tlockley their consumer shit is awful
18:55 Druidic_Rifleman We figured out the problem
18:55 Cprossu I wasn't a believer until I had 2 of their pro 24port 100mb'ers
18:55 Druidic_Rifleman It's bill gates fault
18:56 Cprossu ok, good deal.
18:56 Cprossu moving along I now am running one of their 16 port gb'ers and it uses just as much power as one of the 24port 100's dxid
18:56 Cprossu *did
18:57 Cprossu so on this rare occasion, yay netgear! http://www.tecs.com.au/shop/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/265x265/17f82f742ffe127f42dca9de82fb58b1/D/7/D7440R_4.jpg
18:57 mashpriborintorg I have a netgear cable modem and it is weird, some days it works well, other days it hangs every 5 minutes
18:57 tlockley yah. I have one 48port (the broken one) and a dell poweredge 8port 1GbE
18:57 Cprossu they were piles of shite.
18:57 tlockley i like the both
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18:58 Cprossu the linksys cable modems were worse though
18:58 mashpriborintorg oh it is the stuff we have at work
18:58 mashpriborintorg these rackable switches have never failed yet
18:58 Cprossu anything that didn't say "motorola SB5100" isn't a good cable modem in my book
18:59 Cprossu a rackmount cable model mashpriborintorg?
18:59 tlockley how do you like the rackable part mashpriborintorg
18:59 Cprossu *modem?
18:59 mashpriborintorg no the switches
18:59 Cprossu oh good you scared me for a moment there mashpriborintorg
18:59 mashpriborintorg my cable modem is platic feet mount ;p
19:00 Cprossu I run a sb5100, not a sb5101 or a sb5120, or any of the terrible docsis 3 modems.
19:00 Cprossu the only one of the docsis 3's I was looking forward to isn't supported by Cox yet.
19:01 tlockley so far i have had good luck with m ubee
19:01 mashpriborintorg our dsl routers are not rackmount tho, and it's stupid
19:01 Cprossu SB6180 was the one I was looking forward to
19:01 Cprossu I wonder if they approved it yet
19:02 mashpriborintorg we had a HP procurve switch in a dental cabinet
19:03 mashpriborintorg it failed very well
19:03 yNos ok
19:03 Cprossu yeah they suckeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
19:03 yNos time to go home..
19:03 tlockley cya yNos
19:03 Cprossu procurves sucked so bad. they sucked before HP made them.
19:03 mashpriborintorg bad capacitors + fried BGA chip
19:03 yNos later all
19:03 tlockley i have never been a fan of the procurnes
19:03 mashpriborintorg yo
19:03 tlockley now i have a good reason
19:03 Cprossu I just hated them because they never worked out of the box properly
19:04 Cprossu it was like bobbing for apples, bobbing for working procurves
19:04 mashpriborintorg and just before failure, it was doing a loud buzz noise
19:04 angy it4s been such a long time since I see another thing than cisco or juniper
19:04 Cprossu when 40% of something comes DOA you don't put much stock in them lasting
19:04 mashpriborintorg the dry capacitors oscillating in their cans I believe
19:04 Cprossu I am not happy with juniper anymore
19:05 Cprossu when I visited interop sealed their fate
19:05 angy hugely depend on the series for juniper
19:05 Cprossu *it sealed their fate
19:05 Cprossu the 'engineers' they sent
19:05 Cprossu god.
19:05 mashpriborintorg few months ago, I unboxes 9 LG lcd monitors
19:05 mashpriborintorg one was doa
19:06 Cprossu they basically admitted to me that they sourced their psu's from elsewhere, the capacitor brand information was 'proprietary', and that they had no idea what their switches did.
19:06 tlockley bbl gotta beat up a linksys VPN router
19:06 Cprossu they could tell me all the fucking useless certifications that it passed though
19:06 Cprossu and that their warranty was so good that I didn't have to worry what they built their units with.
19:06 Cprossu so screw juniper.
19:06 Cprossu I want something that will be built the same way every time.
19:06 angy ever came across force10?
19:07 Cprossu nope.
19:07 Cprossu I did like the guys at imagestream though.
19:07 angy it crashes most of the time
19:07 Cprossu they knew their shit. was very happy.
19:08 angy bad thing with cisco is that you pay to resolve bugs
19:08 Cprossu yeah.
19:08 Cprossu IOS is one kludgetastic thing to configure too
19:08 Cprossu on switches it's a dream
19:08 Cprossu on routers it's a nightmare
19:09 angy you spend all your time to enable disable things
19:09 angy in order to them to work
19:09 Cprossu ok, picture this
19:09 Cprossu I was going through my netacad training
19:09 Cprossu curiculum 1.01
19:09 Cprossu back in the day for cisco
19:10 Cprossu everything was looking bright and shiny for me to get my ccna.
19:10 Cprossu then I discovered iptables and linux.
19:10 Cprossu and wondered why anyone even bothered with cisco.
19:10 angy I so hate iptables
19:10 Cprossu compare it to IOS though.
19:10 Cprossu just getting routing done.
19:10 Cprossu if you type it in it works!
19:10 Cprossu can you imagine it?!
19:10 angy soft routing ;)
19:10 Cprossu you type in a route, and it routes!
19:11 Cprossu toss in a few good cached intel gb server network cards though
19:12 Cprossu or even some old decnet 100mb ethernet cards
19:12 Cprossu and it kicked tail.
19:12 angy I use too much vlan to be able to use really iptables
19:12 Druidic_Rifleman Does justintv support XP?
19:12 Cprossu of course it does.
19:12 Druidic_Rifleman apparently live stream does not
19:12 angy I tag like 200-600 vlan on one port
19:12 angy I don't think that iptables will be happy with it :)
19:13 Cprossu you mean he's not using flash media encoder live, Druidic_Rifleman?
19:13 Sythen ugh, i need to get my wusus server up again
19:13 Druidic_Rifleman Ummm
19:15 injektion Hmm I want to start xbox hacking
19:15 Cprossu and I have to make a phone call it seems
19:15 angy but now I'm free from routing and switching and cisco!
19:15 Sythen what do you want to do with it injektion?
19:16 Druidic_Rifleman Cprossu tyger says "no i don't have that"
19:18 injektion Sythen, I don't know exactly but I'll probably put linux on it
19:18 Sythen should be easy enough to do
19:18 Sythen tsop flashing is the way to go with it, being that mod chips are rare for the xbox these days
19:19 Druidic_Rifleman wouldnot using Flash media encoder live
19:19 Druidic_Rifleman cause issues?
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19:24 Cprossu booo netsplit
19:25 Sythen netshits
19:25 angy freenode maintaince
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19:25 angy updating servers i think
19:25 Cprossu well at least it wasn't another masq fuckup
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19:25 Cprossu had one of those a few nights ago, anyone that was on ircloud thing got nailed
19:25 angy :)
19:26 Cprossu freenode ain't kind to web users, what can I say
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19:26 Cprossu heh heh heh
19:27 angy connect using +Z :)
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19:27 Cprossu it also sucks when they ban someone with a wildcard in their mask
19:28 Cprossu I've seen that happen back in the day
19:28 lwq1996 hi
19:28 Cprossu fallout was very fun from that
19:28 angy yeah, that was lots of fun
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19:32 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe
19:32 Sythen i want this
19:33 Sythen http://tinyurl.com/5rw9s24
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19:34 Druid hey
19:34 Sythen helloooo
19:36 lwq1996 druid...your nick
19:36 Druid yeah I am doing 2 things right now
19:37 Druid nd was two lazy to type the whole thing
19:37 lwq1996 lol
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19:45 injektion What kind of printer could I find in a thrift store that would work with linux?
19:46 pegasus ...how did i miss this shot the first time i watched this
19:46 pegasus first N times
19:49 injektion Hmm
19:51 pegasus injektion: depends what you want to print
19:52 injektion just text
19:54 Cprossu injektion: anything HP.
19:54 wannabe-afk lwq1996
19:54 Cprossu +1 if it has a parallel connection.
19:54 lwq1996 hi
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19:55 wannabe-afk hi i was outside....
19:55 pegasus anything anything should work just fine if you can dump it text
19:56 wannabe-afk i have to go back out....but i'm taking a break
19:56 pegasus serial may be an issue with parity and baud
19:56 pegasus everything else, though
19:56 Cprossu injektion: if 8.5" wide is ok, go for a Deskjet 6122 or Deskjet 990CSE, preferably with duplexer if you need two sided print jobs. uses HP 78XL color and HP 45 black carts.
19:56 Cprossu unless you want old school
19:56 injektion I'm tired of fucking around with CUPS on Linux
19:57 Cprossu what printer are you having a bitch with?
19:57 injektion Brother laser printer networked via TCP/IP and zeroconf
19:58 Cprossu I wonder if you can use a jetdirect port on a brother
19:58 Cprossu try doing a tcp/ip port, port 9100 jetdirect with the brother print driver injektion
19:59 Cprossu use postscript if possible.
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19:59 Cprossu which gives me another idea
19:59 Cprossu what model injektion?
19:59 injektion HL-3040CN
19:59 pegasus cat somefile.txt > /dev/lp0
20:00 Cprossu that will not go where he wants it to I bet
20:00 Cprossu printer lacks a direct connection
20:01 pegasus i think you're thinking of something else
20:01 pegasus oh, wait
20:01 pegasus <injektion> Brother laser printer networked via TCP/IP and zeroconf
20:01 pegasus dubbya tee eff
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20:03 injektion Most network ready laser printers have bonjour/zeroconf
20:03 Cprossu but it's always best to if you can print on a compatible driver with postscript drivers under linux... at least IMO.
20:03 injektion All the macs in the house use bonjour to find the printer
20:04 pegasus i generally prefer to dump plaintext into the parallel port.
20:04 Cprossu it's for the birds =P
20:04 Cprossu @ injektion
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20:04 injektion It's simple and easy what more could I ask for
20:05 Cprossu painful stabbing yourself with manual configs of course!
20:05 Cprossu duh!
20:05 * wannabe-afk pokes lwq1996
20:06 wannabe-afk lwq1996 i'm afk for a reason.  can i go back outside now?
20:06 wannabe-afk i'll take  the computer along
20:08 injektion Cprossu, I used to have labels on all the computers and devices that had IP addresses but when we moved in 2010 I didn't care any more
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20:11 pegasus life is very simple when you have one whole server.
20:11 pegasus my laptop, angel's laptop, the server, and the router.
20:11 injektion The other option is to use ecomstation
20:11 pegasus no labels required.
20:12 pegasus ...isn't that OS/2?
20:12 pegasus yeah, why would you need that?
20:13 injektion OS/2 is good
20:13 pegasus not an answser
20:13 pegasus answer
20:14 injektion Well the computer my brother was going to use was going to be a thin client but I changed my mind
20:14 injektion I need a usable OS that can run on a 550MHz P3 that requires me not to even touch it to maintain it
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20:16 pegasus linux, bsd, os/x, windows (assuming it's firewalled)...
20:17 injektion Windows on a 550MHz P3 with less than 512MB of RAM *dies laughing*
20:17 wannabe-afk BotSteve: tell angy http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/09/12/english-is-confusing-usa-vs-uk-cartoon/
20:17 BotSteve wannabe-afk: I'll pass that on when angy is around.
20:17 pegasus you have a really distorted perception of windows.
20:18 pegasus just because vista and 7 require gigs and gigs of ram and CPU doesn't mean all windows is that fucked up
20:18 injektion <--- Doesn't?like windows due to its architecture
20:19 injektion The registry, NTFS (there are better file systems out there), kernel
20:20 injektion NTFS doesn't even defragment itself
20:21 injektion Even HFS+ defragments itsself
20:21 injektion itself*
20:22 pegasus do you intend to do lots of installing and removing of applications on the thin client?
20:22 tlockley i agree with injektion, the design of windows is backwards and long in the tooth
20:22 injektion pegasus, just the sheer thought of running a modern browser like chrome on a P3 makes me shudder
20:22 injektion Or even worse memory hogging firefox
20:23 wannabe-afk the sun.  so bright/hot!
20:23 injektion pegasus, I don't but I don't know what AV could even run on it
20:24 pegasus ...do you intend to do lots of installing and removing of applications on the thin client?
20:24 pegasus why do you need AV if you're not installing anything?
20:24 tlockley if it runs XP which is possible on a p3 just use MSSE
20:26 injektion pegasus, First of all I am having a hard time turning the mac pro into a server
20:29 tlockley injektion: whats giving you a hard time?
20:30 tlockley and what version of OS X are you using or are you not using OS X?
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20:33 injektion tlockley, Lion but OS X isn't a good server os
20:34 tlockley well os x lion server is total shit
20:34 tlockley go steal a copy of 10.6 and i will give you a unlimited client key
20:34 tlockley 10.6 server actually uses real server services
20:35 pegasus probably the most impressive thing i've ever seen OS/2 do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCiRd1bp-zc
20:36 tlockley I tried making the switch to 10.7 Server and it just isnt worth it
20:36 tlockley the cpanel is shit, the services are shit. the only thing good is the UI and that just get in the way
20:36 injektion OS/2 was way ahead of windows in its day
20:37 pegasus how i loathe the question of how much sarcasm and venom is appropriate in a given situation.
20:39 injektion I remember an old video on youtube with NT and OS/2 side by side
20:39 * pegasus wanders off
20:40 injektion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnLmtuA42N8
20:40 Toastdude Hi
20:40 tlockley hey toast
20:40 Toastdude What's going on?
20:41 tlockley nm, possilbly heling injektion
20:41 Toastdude heling?
20:41 tlockley helping
20:41 tlockley cant type today
20:42 Toastdude Lol, okay
20:42 injektion pegasus, It's not my fault that windows back then was a crappy OS :P
20:42 injektion Despite being a pile of steaming shit windows still one
20:42 injektion won*
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20:43 Toastdude ANGY!
20:44 angy Toast!
20:44 BotSteve angy: I have the following messages for you:
20:44 BotSteve At 20:17Z, wannabe-afk asked me to tell angy http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/09/12/english-is-confusing-usa-vs-uk-cartoon/
20:44 * Toastdude hugs angy
20:44 * angy hugs Toast
20:45 angy BotSteve: tell wanabee1987 So true!
20:45 BotSteve angy: I'll pass that on when wanabee1987 is around.
20:46 Toastdude Haha, it is...
20:46 lwq1996 me is playing cod before going to football game
20:46 Toastdude Hi lwq1996
20:46 angy hi lwq1996
20:48 injektion|afk bbl
20:48 Seroster Mrrrgh
20:49 Toastdude Hi Seroster
20:50 angy Hi Seroster!
20:51 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
20:52 wannabe1987 i can rock the family vehicle....wtf
20:52 wannabe1987 its in park :P
20:52 Toastdude wannabe1987!
20:53 wannabe1987 toast!
20:54 Toastdude How are you?
20:54 wannabe1987 hot and sweaty.  the sun is out.  you?
20:54 Toastdude Doing homework
20:54 wannabe1987 ooooo sounds boring :P
20:55 Toastdude It is... I'm doing Lit first... To get the boring stuff out of the way
20:55 wannabe1987 lit as in reading?
20:55 wannabe1987 or writing
20:55 wannabe1987 i'd rather proofread :P
20:55 Toastdude reading
20:56 wannabe1987 ah
20:56 wannabe1987 what are you reading?
20:56 Cprossu hrmmm
20:57 Sythen good evening everyone
20:58 wannabe1987 evening, Sythen
20:58 Sythen hello wannabe1987
20:58 Cprossu 92 hours 16min without a system freeze
20:58 Toastdude A short story called "The Landlady" by Roald Dahl
20:58 Cprossu (on the stream computer that is)
20:58 tlockley ot bad
20:58 wannabe1987 don't jinx it!
20:58 tlockley *not
20:58 Toastdude Hi Sythen
20:58 * tlockley knocks on wood
20:59 Cprossu we were up to a month before all hell broke loose
20:59 Sythen hello Toastdude
20:59 Seroster I want to kill something.
20:59 wannabe1987 .c 92hours to days
20:59 Cprossu crap we've been down that road
20:59 angy get a trainee Seroster
20:59 Seroster Btw, there's a cat sleeping on the table... =D
20:59 BotSteve 3.83333333 days
20:59 wannabe1987 why Seroster?
20:59 Seroster inbred class
20:59 Cprossu it went 1 whole month, then it went 24 hours, then 12, then it wouldn't go 1 hour
20:59 * wannabe1987 wants to know if angy got her link....
20:59 Cprossu now it's gone damn near 4 days.
21:00 wannabe1987 well, Cprossu looks lik eits going in the right direction
21:00 angy wannabe1987: yes
21:00 angy I tried to reply with the bot but I may have made a mistake
21:00 Cprossu hopefully one of the things me/egrsteve/ajprog_laptop did fixed it.
21:00 angy it's so true :)
21:01 Cprossu gotta say though I am happy with how MC turned out.
21:01 Druid Streaming video games is hard
21:01 Cprossu Druid: I wouldn't do it without fewer than 3 computers.
21:02 Cprossu and a good hdmi capture card.
21:02 Seroster Handling one idiot for a week.. That sucks.  Being exposed to 15 for a month...
21:03 Cprossu the gaming computer should have a geforce 460 or Radeon 6870 or better IMO.
21:04 Cprossu I'd setup the 'stream computer' with the cap card and a good firewire mixer. Then I'd run the application windowed and cloned on the gaming computer
21:04 Sythen mine still uses a gtx275
21:04 Cprossu that last computer would be stream validation/comments.
21:04 Cprossu you want all the detail you can manage so when it gets degraded by compression it doesn't look any worse than you intend it to
21:05 Cprossu a gtc 275 would be plenty
21:05 Cprossu *gtx
21:05 Sythen it still has no issues running todays games, thats why i havent upgraded yet
21:05 Cprossu but you want one computer to handle comments/other internet crap
21:05 Cprossu one for just streaming/audio
21:05 Cprossu and one just for gaming
21:05 Cprossu others don't do it that way
21:05 Cprossu but that's what I'd do =P
21:08 lwq1996 i got to go football game
21:08 angy bye!
21:08 lwq-football_gam bye
21:08 wannabe1987 bye lee :(
21:08 Sythen i have no interest in broadcasting game play, i dont see the point lol
21:08 Sythen bye bye
21:08 lwq-football_gam see ya later wannabe
21:09 Cprossu no one needs to see how I [strike]suck[/strike] own at counter strike.
21:09 wannabe1987 r u sure?
21:09 Sythen i tend to play single player or co-op games
21:10 Sythen or the vs saxton hale gamemode in tf2
21:10 Cprossu wannabe1987 those who want to see can hit me up on steam
21:10 wannabe1987 ah,  ok
21:12 Sythen i might look into picking up one of those volcano kits
21:15 Cprossu .seen egrsteve
21:15 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw egrsteve 160.32 hours ago at 2011-09-06 04:56:33 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:15:46 UTC
21:15 Cprossu .seen polishedball
21:15 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw polishedball 286.10 hours ago at 2011-08-31 23:09:39 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:15:51 UTC
21:16 Cprossu shit I am a bit worried now
21:16 Sythen ?
21:16 wannabe1987 why
21:17 Cprossu ^above .seen 's
21:17 wannabe1987 cuz they haven't been here?
21:17 Cprossu yeah.
21:18 wannabe1987 ah.  i'm sure they're still alive....
21:18 wannabe1987 esp if steve wasn't someone would say something.
21:19 Druid Cprossu if a guy couldn't afford 2 comps???
21:19 Cprossu then what the heck are you doing playing WoW?
21:19 ajprog_laptop who are you looking for?
21:20 Cprossu just wondering if the guy who goes by polishedball ever showed up at the lab
21:20 Cprossu trying to consolodate all our engineering team and get them all up to speed so I can finally forget key details of what I setup
21:20 Cprossu essentially
21:20 Cprossu heh
21:21 Sythen dude, you dont need alot to run wow
21:22 Cprossu money helps
21:22 Cprossu the point was without copious amounts of money and one computer why would one play WoW and not.... uh... get some way of obtaining money?
21:24 Sythen well, what do you have now?
21:24 ajprog_laptop I haven't seen anyone new, so I don't think polishedball ever showed up
21:24 Cprossu yeah I am thinking that too =/
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21:24 Cprossu I'm also guessing steve's been busy as the work days for him have been rather long
21:24 Sythen hello Katemonster
21:24 Katemonster hy sythen
21:24 Katemonster er
21:25 Katemonster hi
21:25 Sythen hehe
21:25 Sythen Hows yourself today?
21:25 Katemonster good question...
21:25 Katemonster i'll let you know when i figure it out.
21:25 angy Kate!
21:25 Sythen still posting?
21:25 Katemonster i was posting?
21:25 ajprog_laptop Cprossu: yep and school, I will let him know the next time I see him
21:25 * Katemonster kisses angy
21:26 wannabe1987 o.O
21:26 Katemonster angy my love.
21:26 Sythen lol
21:26 Katemonster i didn't sleep well last night
21:26 Sythen so you just woek up?
21:26 Sythen woke*
21:27 Toastdude Shit, it's Katemonster....
21:27 Katemonster no i woke up a few hours ago
21:27 Toastdude I mean Hi
21:27 Katemonster hi toast
21:27 Sythen right on
21:27 Toastdude :P
21:27 wannabe1987 lol
21:27 Katemonster but it was one of those nights where i couldn't shut my mind off.
21:27 Katemonster so i just laid in bed for 8 hours thinking.
21:28 Sythen i have days like that
21:28 Druid Cprossu what if said person can not afford 3 PC's?
21:28 wannabe1987 why would you need 3 pcs?
21:28 Katemonster ?
21:28 Sythen you dont need 3 machines to do game streaming
21:29 Katemonster why wouldn't you
21:29 Sythen thats overkill
21:29 Katemonster there's no kill like overkill. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMYnWTd8v8M
21:30 Druid XD
21:33 * Katemonster is going to go find lunch while waiting for todays PDS to be posted
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21:34 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m48j9INPICo&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=17s
21:34 Trebor Heylo All
21:34 wannabe-afk hi.  bye. dinner time!
21:35 Cprossu I never said you needed it to 'do it'
21:35 Cprossu but I will say you need it to do it well.
21:35 Cprossu and I gave my reasons.
21:36 Sythen still, its easily doable on one system
21:36 Cprossu not really
21:36 Cprossu it's a pain in the ass
21:36 Sythen is it?
21:36 Cprossu the act of streaming it will decrease the performance of everything else
21:36 Cprossu game included.
21:36 Sythen ok, lets test that theory
21:37 Cprossu goofing with the audio is a pain in the ass too
21:37 Cprossu especially in windows 7
21:37 Cprossu now I never said you needed 3 gaming grade pc's
21:37 Cprossu just one.
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21:42 Druid Could it be done with a gamming PC nd a shitty second pC
21:42 Druid Andwhats the esyest way for a guy who can't afford raman noodles to get Windows 7
21:43 Sythen find someone with a tech net subscription
21:43 Katemonster back
21:44 Cprossu yeah it could be Druid
21:44 Cprossu as I said it's more difficult to do with W7 oddly enough
21:47 Cprossu as each audio driver has it's quirks.
21:47 Cprossu or doesn't work at all
21:50 Toastdude .seen |red
21:50 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen |red around.
21:50 Toastdude .seen |red|
21:50 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw |red| 1152.45 hours ago at 2011-07-26 21:23:24 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:50:11 UTC
21:50 Toastdude :(
21:51 Druid itcan't bedone with XP
21:53 Druid or we can't
21:56 Cprossu yeah it can.
21:57 Cprossu does your friend at least have multiple monitors Druid?
21:59 Sythen well, ive just done it on a single machine, and would be fine if i had a more upload bandwidth
22:04 Cprossu if you like 15fps video uploaded that's fine I suppose
22:04 Cprossu but I've found dedicated systems remove quite a lot of the hassle
22:04 Cprossu it can be done, I never said it couldn't.
22:04 Cprossu I just said not well.
22:14 Cprossu what the fuck
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22:23 Druid he does Cprossu
22:25 Druid How does one get audio from and Video from and voice commentary from to broad cast wow fottage on live stream using an XP OS
22:26 Seroster Gnight folks
22:26 Druid he's using "livestream procaster"
22:27 Cprossu Druid that's his problem
22:27 Druid We had snarky commentsand video but not the game audio
22:27 Cprossu use flash media encoder live instead.
22:27 Cprossu and there's another piece of software you need to use
22:28 Druid Keep in mind this guy is having issues affording rammen noddles
22:29 Cprossu yeah it's free software
22:29 Cprossu even ramen noodle ridden people can afford free.
22:30 Cprossu http://www.adobe.com/products/flashmediaserver/flashmediaencoder/
22:31 Cprossu and the second thing you need I think is vh screen toolkit.
22:31 Cprossu http://download.splitmedialabs.com/downloads/VHScreenCapX86.msi
22:31 angy free... for a fee
22:31 Cprossu angy, what fee?
22:31 angy flash media server is quite pricey
22:31 Cprossu probably but justin.tv takes care of that for you.
22:31 Cprossu or whoever they stream to
22:32 angy they don't use FMS :)
22:32 angy they use another imprelemntation of RTSP
22:32 Cprossu either way no big deal
22:32 angy right
22:32 Cprossu so in their case it's freakin' free
22:32 angy with some ads to take care of the BW costs
22:34 Cprossu I've been happy with justin.tv thus far though
22:34 Cprossu livestream and ustream pissed me off though
22:34 angy they got a great platform
22:35 Cprossu livestream with the constant interupting at different length ads, ustream with it's version of that.
22:35 Cprossu at least if you pause+play with justin.tv or the stream is lost it doesn't force you to watch another ad
22:36 Cprossu (another likely the same ad at that)
22:36 angy the two got a package quite costly
22:36 Cprossu granted everyone seems to use the same ad servers.
22:36 angy justin.tv does not have a pay package I think
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22:41 Druidic_Rifleman any advice?
22:42 wannabe-lego noes!  theres no stargate atlantis legos!
22:43 Druidic_Rifleman awwww
22:43 Druidic_Rifleman that sucks
22:43 wannabe-lego i know
22:43 Druidic_Rifleman Soooo my friends live stream is not going well
22:43 wannabe-lego no?
22:44 tggmc egrsteve here
22:44 angy hi steve
22:44 angy ho're ya?
22:44 tggmc tired
22:44 wannabe-lego Cprossu steve is here!
22:44 tggmc and have too much homework
22:45 angy that's sad
22:45 angy may you ditch part of them?
22:45 tggmc not really
22:45 Cprossu yay tggmc
22:45 Cprossu yeah I bet
22:45 tggmc so whats up?
22:46 tggmc I heard you were lookign for mwe
22:46 Cprossu not too much, just trying to find where everyone went
22:46 tggmc *me
22:46 tggmc I went back to school
22:46 Cprossu stream computer seems to be stable for now
22:46 Cprossu for what reasons we'll never know
22:46 angy what for steve?
22:47 tggmc maybe phase of the moon
22:47 tggmc electrical engineering
22:47 Cprossu potentially.
22:47 angy Yey! that reminds me a lot of fun classes
22:47 Cprossu I was wondering if polishedball ever showed up
22:47 Cprossu but it seems he haden't
22:47 tggmc not that I am aware of
22:47 Cprossu he hasn't been back here in a while either
22:48 tggmc although apparently a meter reader/ linesman was introduced to gemini today
22:48 Cprossu btw the radio guys [strike]stole[/strike] borrowed the mic stan.
22:48 Cprossu ooh that's cool.
22:48 tggmc Chris figures he shat himself
22:48 Cprossu he probably did.
22:48 Cprossu did he see thumper too?
22:48 tggmc I noticed
22:48 tggmc not that chris mentioned, I wasn't here
22:49 Cprossu fair enough.
22:49 tggmc for a linesmen Gemini would be impressive
22:49 tggmc as would thumper i suppose
22:50 Cprossu it should be. especially the color of the sparks.
22:50 * angy goes to fetch food, under the rain :(
22:50 Cprossu color is everything and those are mighty white now.
22:50 tlockley you blew up some linesmans?
22:50 tggmc that they are, nice white streamers
22:50 Cprossu he shoulda done the 'photonic induction' arc with that 100kva transformer to the linesman though
22:51 tggmc no but a linesman saw gemini
22:51 Cprossu hahah
22:51 tggmc ya, gemini is more impressive
22:51 Cprossu but you know what I mean
22:51 tggmc not to say high current arcs aren't fun
22:51 Cprossu it is but to a linesman that white thick arc... is death.
22:51 Druidic_Rifleman EGRstevve is tggmc?
22:51 tlockley heh
22:51 Cprossu yes.
22:51 tggmc for now
22:52 Cprossu so I saw some GVG trickery
22:52 tggmc yes, jeff set that up
22:52 Cprossu and btw I noticed that our video switcher does some funky things with the output numbers.
22:52 tggmc this?
22:52 Cprossu yeah hah nice.
22:52 Cprossu I think they switch preview and program via output number
22:52 Cprossu internally
22:52 Cprossu but not physically
22:53 Cprossu making control via the ethernet function weird.
22:53 Cprossu btw I think I want to try something new.
22:53 Cprossu we got that CP32 control panel
22:53 tggmc ok, what are you thinking?
22:53 Cprossu I think we should see if we can interface it via the 10bt hub
22:53 tggmc the other saturn panel?
22:53 Cprossu just a thought I had
22:53 Cprossu no
22:54 tggmc oh that one
22:54 Cprossu remember the panels and GPIO boxes?
22:54 tggmc I know which one you mean now
22:54 Cprossu there's a possibility we can interface one or more of those to our system
22:54 Cprossu if we can interface the control panel the GPIO's would be next.
22:54 tggmc and have GPIO too
22:54 tggmc GPIO could be fun
22:54 Cprossu think we can control the 20-ten with the GPIO's was my idea.
22:55 tonsofpcs hi
22:55 Cprossu hey tonsofpcs
22:55 tggmc rewire the buttons to the GPIO or are you thinking bit banging
22:55 tonsofpcs does the big 20ten support gpis?
22:55 tonsofpcs tggmc: parallel data output > GPO is pretty simple circuitry.
22:55 tonsofpcs serial is a bit more complex but doable
22:56 tggmc not that I am aware of, it only has it's control net connection (looks like RS485)
22:56 Cprossu yeah but our 20-ten's are serial I think
22:56 Cprossu oooh that reminds me
22:56 Cprossu you know the magic rs232-rs485 box we have?
22:56 tggmc I should put a RS485 probe on the 20-ten
22:56 Cprossu producerbill's gonna need it.
22:56 Cprossu it appears this is how MPK works. ready for this?
22:56 tggmc yes, I don't know where it is right now but it's around
22:56 Cprossu Rs422 out to update the status.
22:56 tggmc ready
22:56 Cprossu like
22:57 Cprossu and rs485 for input
22:57 tonsofpcs wait, do you have a 422 20ten, a 232 20ten or a 3-wire 20ten?
22:57 tonsofpcs note that I have a third-party 20ten controller at work
22:57 Druidic_Rifleman Sooo Cprossu whats it like to go to the lab?
22:57 tggmc 3 wire 20-ten
22:57 tonsofpcs ugh
22:57 tggmc + _ and gnd
22:57 tonsofpcs the 3wire is completely weird interface
22:57 tggmc * + - and gnd
22:57 tonsofpcs not sure which one I have... I can check... uh... maybe thursday... maybe....
22:57 Cprossu the reasoning is only one panel needs full attention of the device. and every device needs to be updated at the same time
22:57 Cprossu therefore mpk is both.
22:57 tonsofpcs is it labeled as 'X-Y' or somesuch ?
22:58 Cprossu signalling is like rs-422 outputing to panels, and like rs-485 coming back from panels.
22:58 tggmc labeled at + - and S
22:58 tggmc interesting
22:58 tonsofpcs tggmc: keyword is "like"
22:58 tonsofpcs who is at tggmc right now?
22:58 tggmc steve
22:58 Cprossu yeah. we do have a nice pdf that explains it
22:58 tonsofpcs hi steve!
22:58 Cprossu rather well
22:59 Cprossu so let me nab it
22:59 tggmc the MPK bus?
22:59 Cprossu http://www.evertz.com/resources/7707DT-mpk.pdf
22:59 tonsofpcs Cprossu: well, tries to explain it... between the four PDFs with bits and pieces, you can pull everything out.  Including the actual data you need to send!
22:59 Cprossu ^yeah
22:59 Cprossu indeed.
22:59 Cprossu between astro and producerbill they'll get it.
22:59 tggmc there is no clear spec
22:59 Cprossu it's clear as mud.
23:00 tonsofpcs and I do believe that my Kayak has the control stuff in it.
23:00 Cprossu doesn't mean we can't interface to it though
23:00 tggmc cool
23:00 Katemonster oh shit new post http://caspianseamonster.blogspot.com/2011/09/we-arent-dead-yet.html
23:00 Cprossu at the very least the rs-232 to rs-485 will help us out.
23:00 tonsofpcs 485/422 is simple.
23:00 tggmc is should I have a USB to RS485 around somewhere
23:01 tonsofpcs a lot of USB <> 232 interfaces can be switched to 485/422 mode.
23:01 tonsofpcs the HP desktops we have at work can have their onboard serial ports switched to 485 too
23:01 Cprossu I'm hoping we can at worst bitbang the interface over and use a pc with a serial interface to make commands.
23:01 tonsofpcs (they were not purchased for this, it just happens to do it)
23:02 tonsofpcs Cprossu: one of those documents has the commands in it
23:02 Cprossu yeah I recall.
23:02 tonsofpcs i don't know which one
23:02 tonsofpcs i think it was "chapter 2" or somesuch
23:02 Cprossu technically we can use any of the ascii command list in our saturn manual
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23:02 douglas hello
23:02 wannabe-lego hi spd
23:02 Cprossu but it doesn't exactly say how it works.
23:02 douglas my server was bombed yesterday
23:02 tggmc figures
23:02 Cprossu hello douglas
23:03 douglas ;_;
23:03 wannabe-lego what?
23:03 Cprossu not cool =(
23:03 Cprossu hackers or actual?
23:03 Cprossu or hardware failure?
23:03 douglas ughh tnt in the mincraft world
23:03 douglas blew up everything
23:03 tlockley greefers
23:03 douglas idk who did it
23:03 Cprossu ooooh minecraft lol
23:03 Sythen shame, bloody greivers
23:03 Cprossu keep backups and pw the hell outa it
23:03 Cprossu that's the only way to keep one.
23:04 tlockley I prefer whitelists
23:04 douglas i should do that
23:04 Cprossu speaking of servers I've ignored
23:04 Sythen whitelists are decent
23:04 Cprossu I wonder if my garrysmod server is up
23:04 tlockley lol
23:04 douglas but im calling a manditory meeting with all the server admins tomorrow
23:04 Sythen gmod!? ooooo
23:04 wannabe-lego speed you need to hear this...my sister was asking me how babys get borned and i told her it was painful and that baby's come out "down there" and she goes "THATS THE PRIVATES no wonder boys can't have babies"
23:04 douglas in the server
23:04 wannabe-lego kids say the darnest things
23:04 douglas wannabe?
23:04 * douglas reads the big message
23:05 wannabe-lego hi douglas
23:05 tggmc how is babby made?
23:05 Sythen depends how you cook it
23:05 Toastdude H wannabe-lego
23:05 douglas o_o wannabe
23:06 Katemonster http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/How+to+kill+a+baby+reupload+i+submitted+it+at_209307_1045425.jpg
23:06 Toastdude Hi douglas/spdrnnr
23:06 Sythen HAHAHA
23:06 wannabe-lego tggmc lol
23:06 wannabe-lego what, douglas?
23:07 wannabe-lego she's 9
23:07 * Katemonster is a complete monster
23:07 douglas o_o
23:07 douglas hey Katemonster
23:07 Katemonster hi
23:07 * douglas hugs the monster
23:07 wannabe-lego and she wants to know what the middle finger means
23:07 douglas 0_0
23:07 Katemonster i'msorrydoiknowyou?
23:07 Cprossu gee my parents just told me when I asked, 'a man and a women have sex and 9 months later a baby might be born'
23:07 douglas you you do Katemonster
23:08 douglas yes you do
23:08 douglas idk what i was told
23:08 Katemonster ...yeah i'm drawing a blank, sorry.
23:08 douglas i dont think i ever asked
23:08 wannabe-lego speed!
23:09 douglas wannabe!
23:09 Katemonster eh?  douglas == speed
23:09 Katemonster ?
23:10 douglas what do you think carbon steel monster?
23:10 Katemonster this disguise doesn't suit you.  never be ashamed of who you are.  </zorg>
23:10 wannabe-lego sory
23:10 wannabe-lego sorry
23:10 douglas what?
23:10 Katemonster ....now i want to go watch 5th Element
23:14 Cprossu rebooted my gmod server after updates. wee.
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23:15 tonsofpcs hmmm
23:15 electrodynamic hey ppl, hows it goin
23:16 electrodynamic when are you going to be working on the lotus?
23:16 tonsofpcs so tggmc, has the former engineer / laser guy shown up?
23:16 tggmc not that I am aware of
23:16 Cprossu no he haden't.
23:16 Cprossu as far as anyone of us know anyway
23:16 tlockley laser guy?
23:16 Cprossu polishedball.
23:16 tlockley ah
23:16 tonsofpcs same guy
23:17 Cprossu he actually has the talent to bring the spectra physics laser online if it's possible
23:17 tonsofpcs he was an engineer at W??Z and plays with lasers
23:17 tlockley sweet
23:17 tlockley that thing looks awsome
23:18 Cprossu tggmc the postulated problem with it seemed that a research kid ran ionized water through it
23:18 Cprossu when the electrodes inside are bare if you get my drift.
23:18 tlockley but what would you do witha 50W laser
23:18 Cprossu with the right frequency doubler shoot the moon!
23:18 tlockley besides burning all the things
23:19 angy laser asisted cnc?
23:19 electrodynamic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-SduY4A2kE
23:19 tlockley its a frigging huge laser
23:19 tonsofpcs laser assisted burnination/thumpination
23:19 tonsofpcs thumper and laser simultaneous!
23:19 electrodynamic heres the worlds most powerful lazer, from wicked lazers. yours for $299
23:19 Cprossu hahah it's so tiny electrodynamic
23:19 Cprossu pffft
23:20 electrodynamic say that to its face
23:20 tonsofpcs lol
23:20 Cprossu any day
23:20 tlockley you talking about the wicked arctic?
23:20 tlockley or their green one
23:20 electrodynamic spyder ii
23:20 Cprossu especially with the spectra.
23:20 electrodynamic no blue
23:20 Cprossu do you even know what we are talking about electrodynamic?
23:20 electrodynamic they got this torch too, that lights fires and fries an egg!
23:20 tlockley they suppposedly have a green 1W one now
23:20 Cprossu the power supply for what we are talking about takes up a full pallet.
23:21 electrodynamic bet the battery lasts for about 30 secs once youve owned it a while
23:21 tonsofpcs who here wants to write a picture tagging app?
23:21 tlockley to do what?
23:21 tlockley one what os?
23:21 tlockley *on
23:22 Cprossu electrodynamic: http://www.evertz.com/resources/7707DT-mpk.pdf
23:22 Cprossu whoops
23:22 Cprossu damn thing
23:22 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OupSWz9TfcY&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=332s
23:22 tonsofpcs tlockley: to tag pictures.  windows and maybe linux and maybe os-x and maybe (choose an OS)
23:22 Cprossu ^ electrodynamic this ^
23:22 tonsofpcs tlockley: pm and I'll give details of the interfacce
23:22 tlockley metadata tags?
23:22 tonsofpcs ya
23:23 Cprossu electrodynamic I am not talking about some 'pen' laser.
23:23 electrodynamic ok lookin now lol.
23:23 Sythen Goodnight everyone
23:23 electrodynamic that wicked lazer is available to the public tho
23:24 electrodynamic "watercooled" holy wow
23:24 electrodynamic he says "its a beast"..think he means a mofo of a lazer! lol
23:24 douglas im going to make a whitelist on my server tomorrow
23:25 douglas how are you Katemonster
23:25 Sythen douglas, if you need help with your MC server, give me a shout
23:25 Katemonster kind of tired.
23:25 * douglas shoots Sythen
23:25 douglas lol
23:26 douglas that was lame >_>
23:26 Sythen lol, seriously, i admin and run an MC server this side, so if you need a hand, just gimmie a shout
23:26 Cprossu now see what I meant electrodynamic heh
23:26 electrodynamic where did that lazer come from?,..what was its purpose?
23:26 douglas Sythen: how do i run mods
23:27 Cprossu it came from a university
23:27 electrodynamic pity he didnt fire it up
23:27 douglas like how do i protect things/
23:27 Cprossu yeah no one has
23:27 Sythen bukkit
23:27 Cprossu rumor has it a research student bought it
23:27 Sythen start with bukkit and mcmyadmin
23:27 Cprossu and ran ionized water through it (!)
23:27 douglas how do i do that?
23:27 Cprossu the electrodes are external
23:27 douglas >_>
23:27 Cprossu so it's not a good mixure
23:28 Sythen i pm'ed you some links, have a read, if you need more help, ill be around tomorrow, i really do need to go to bed, its 00:28
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23:29 tggmc TGG has a 50 watt water cooled gas discharge laser, I belive it is IR with a frequency doubler (green) but it needs some optics work to be functional
23:29 * Sgt_Lemming just got up
23:29 Sgt_Lemming and I run a pretty decent mc server
23:29 Sgt_Lemming 88 plugins currently
23:29 injektion There isn't a free bare metal hypervisor is there?
23:30 tggmc the laser head is about 6ft long and the power supply is 100s of pounds
23:30 Sgt_Lemming yeah
23:30 Cprossu tggmc we actually found someone interested and qualified to get it running
23:30 Sgt_Lemming seen that one in the video, tis awesome
23:30 douglas wannabe?
23:30 Cprossu and he's the guy who hasn't been in yet.
23:30 wannabe-afk doug
23:30 douglas lego?
23:30 douglas idk
23:30 wannabe-afk yes.  legos!
23:30 douglas :D
23:31 tggmc time for me to head home, ttyl
23:31 wannabe-afk ok
23:31 Cprossu the frequency doubler should bring it to 532nm though
23:31 Cprossu which is perfect.
23:32 electrodynamic so this uni ran like common tap water thru that lazer? ha ha
23:32 Cprossu no a kid did
23:32 Cprossu who bought it in surplus
23:32 electrodynamic probably needs de-scaling and parts replaced
23:32 Cprossu as the legend goes anyway
23:32 Cprossu probably.
23:32 angy last laser I played with was ammonia cooled
23:33 tggmc when we have someone qualified I bet it will be worked on
23:33 angy we tried to do laser lathe, but it did not work as planned
23:33 Cprossu ammonia leaks suck. heh.
23:33 tggmc and made to work if possible
23:33 electrodynamic whats the lazer power rating of the one N.A.S.A use to measure the distance of the moon? anyone know
23:33 Cprossu we need to point it to the moon! TO THE MOON!
23:33 angy hit NASA reflector!
23:33 Cprossu electrodynamic rumor has it that university used it for that purpose.
23:34 tggmc where are those retoreflectors located again
23:34 Cprossu at least once.
23:34 tggmc lets se a rover and at least 2 from maned missions
23:34 tggmc on the ground
23:34 tonsofpcs yes, the retroreflectors are on the ground
23:35 electrodynamic id hate to see their calculations with running tap water thru it
23:35 angy I did not remember off hand where the reflector is
23:35 tggmc from what I understand you need a good sensor on the earth too due to atmosheric scatering losses both ways
23:36 Cprossu electrodynamic the uni used DI water
23:36 angy using backscatter signals, you can estimate pretty well the atmospheric part
23:36 Cprossu a research student who bought it from uni at a surplus auction used the tap water
23:36 electrodynamic said in the video it was mains water
23:36 electrodynamic ah ha got you
23:36 tggmc I know I can get my hands on DI (for now)
23:36 Cprossu ?
23:36 Cprossu got me on what?
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23:36 electrodynamic wonder what that guy is doing now lol
23:37 tggmc crying in a corner
23:37 Cprossu probably still fucking things up.
23:37 electrodynamic lol
23:37 electrodynamic think he might have a job for virgin media over here in the u.k
23:37 * wannabe-afk drives away, gonna ping out or disconnect soon
23:37 electrodynamic took the bitches like 3 x to set me up
23:37 tggmc ok, I need to leave for real now
23:37 tggmc ttyl
23:38 angy se ya Steve
23:38 electrodynamic addios dude!
23:38 Sythen shame that virgin media has gone down that route
23:38 Sythen most of there engineers are morons now
23:38 electrodynamic they still charge enough!
23:38 Ponko i'm back
23:38 Cprossu lates tggmc
23:38 Ponko HERE'S JOHNNY
23:38 electrodynamic last months bill 167
23:39 Sythen i had my bill come through today
23:39 Sythen 31 quid
23:39 angy Ponko!
23:39 electrodynamic who u with sythen?
23:39 electrodynamic talktalk
23:39 Sythen virgin media
23:40 electrodynamic mind you that 167 inc calls to the usa, before i added talk intl ha ha
23:40 electrodynamic 13p a min at all times
23:40 Sythen lol
23:40 Sythen my bill next month will be 21 quid
23:40 electrodynamic was on the fone for 6-8 hours some nights
23:40 Sythen jesus
23:40 Sgt_Lemming .y here's johnny
23:40 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CMmwVRAtaI
23:40 electrodynamic 3p a min now with talk intl.
23:40 Sythen thank the world for skype lol
23:40 Cprossu it sucks that the cell/internet companies have all started to go down the 'charging assloads for data'
23:40 angy or corporate phone plans
23:40 electrodynamic tried skype, it sucks long dis
23:41 Sythen really?
23:41 Sythen not had an issue with it
23:41 Cprossu they act like every kb costs them money at least here.
23:41 angy in a way, they're right
23:41 Cprossu and we're getting dinked with terms like 'unlimited' for 2gb cap and then they charge extra after that for every mb over
23:42 Sythen they implemented a traffic management system within my isp
23:42 electrodynamic i always read the small print! and the small print of the small print. and if i dont like it, they can stick it up their exhausts
23:42 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, they have been doing that for a long time here
23:42 Cprossu they did that years ago with comcast and called it a feature!
23:43 Cprossu that's why I don't have bloody internet on my cell.
23:43 Sgt_Lemming we get sooo gipped in terms of bandwidth and download allowances
23:43 Cprossu never mind that all the voice and text and picture messages is actually data
23:43 Cprossu at least I don't get charged for that crap.
23:43 electrodynamic you always get "UPTO" 20mbps and stuff like that too
23:43 angy I don't think they use a full IP backend
23:43 electrodynamic what u actually get is 1/2
23:43 angy so, calls and texts are not data as the way data is
23:43 Sgt_Lemming electrodynamic, that's the nature of DSL
23:43 Cprossu does not matter angy
23:44 Sythen i get what i should be getting
23:44 electrodynamic im not on dsl
23:44 angy it does Cprossu
23:44 Cprossu what's wrong is the people who own the fiber lines have been charging assloads for the use of them.
23:44 Sythen we be cable bro's lol
23:44 Sgt_Lemming cable is the same
23:44 Sgt_Lemming cable is shared bandwidth
23:44 angy SS7 cans handle a lot, if you're connected with small IP links, you overprice them
23:44 electrodynamic fibre optic. "UPTO" lol..10mb. i actually get 9.6 so its not to bad now
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23:44 Sythen its not fibre optic tho
23:44 Sythen its fuckin coax lol
23:45 Cprossu probably mocha
23:45 electrodynamic from the street aparantly
23:45 Sgt_Lemming the only dedicated guaranteed bandwidth line is a fibre line
23:45 electrodynamic coax from the st to the modem
23:45 angy coax got virtually unlimited bandwidth, so, in a way, it's like fiber :)
23:45 Sythen to the cables its fibre
23:45 Sythen but its all coax from there
23:45 Sythen cab box's*
23:45 angy FTTB
23:45 Cprossu what I hate about coax with coax amplifiers and such
23:45 angy not FFTH
23:45 Cprossu is take one link out everything's fucked.
23:45 angy I'm with you there Cprossu
23:45 Sgt_Lemming coax != FTTB
23:45 angy but same with fiber amplifiers
23:45 angy coax can be FFTB
23:46 angy in France, cable is mostly FFTB now
23:46 Cprossu it's reliable as concrete flow in a fish tube.
23:46 Sythen thats the thing, coax isnt fibre
23:47 angy coax is more resilient than fiber though
23:47 Sythen yup
23:47 Sgt_Lemming lol
23:47 Sgt_Lemming no it's not
23:47 Cprossu yes and no though
23:47 electrodynamic yes it is
23:47 Sythen its physically tougher
23:47 Sgt_Lemming coax involves copper cables
23:47 Cprossu moisture doesn't affect coax.
23:47 electrodynamic fibre optic is very fragile
23:47 Cprossu *fiber
23:47 electrodynamic its glass at the end of the day
23:47 Cprossu I said the wrong thing
23:47 Sgt_Lemming physically tougher sure, but not as long lived
23:47 Cprossu moisture penetration does not really affect fiber.
23:47 electrodynamic whereas coax or co-axle is copper
23:47 Sythen both have pros and cons
23:47 Cprossu it fucks coax up.
23:48 Cprossu well it's copper plated steel.
23:48 Cprossu technically.
23:48 Sythen depends where you get it from
23:48 Cprossu over here if the cable company ran it
23:48 angy depend on the cable
23:48 Cprossu it's copper coated steel.
23:48 Sythen the stuff they use here is actually copper
23:48 angy in France, cables are pure cooper for coax
23:48 Sythen same here
23:49 electrodynamic depends on its rating
23:49 angy connexion wise, coax is way over fiber
23:49 electrodynamic and what its use is. satalite coax is r6s rating, tv lesser quality
23:49 Sgt_Lemming fibre > coax ANYDAY
23:49 Cprossu once you T it off it looses that though angy
23:49 Sgt_Lemming coax is shit, if you have FTTP it shits all over coax
23:50 Cprossu the latencies induced by the tranceivers along the way suck too on coax.
23:50 electrodynamic i never seen a coax cable takin a dump! you should complaine to ur isp!!
23:50 Sythen lol
23:50 Cprossu my house needs complete rewiring every 2 years.
23:51 angy I get better latency on DSL than on fiber, but you're right on the transceivers fact in coax
23:51 Cprossu fuck coax.
23:51 Cprossu it doesn't stand the arizona sun or even the dirt for very long.
23:51 Katemonster in soviet russia coax fucks you?
23:51 Sgt_Lemming angy, if you are getting better latency on DSL than fibre, there is something very VERY VERY wrong with your fibre
23:51 angy don't get aerial cables
23:51 angy nope
23:52 Sgt_Lemming as DSL is shit for latency, because it reorders the packets
23:52 angy nope
23:52 angy depend on what you use
23:52 Cprossu all I know is my singals all go to shit, my SNR's in the toilet, and then I have connection problems.
23:52 electrodynamic is captain boden on today?
23:52 Sgt_Lemming it's the way DSL works, there is no getting around it angy
23:52 angy you think DSL = PPPoE or PPPoA
23:52 Cprossu plus docsis is an unreliable piece of crap.
23:52 angy there is
23:52 angy use IPoE
23:52 Sgt_Lemming no, it's part of the DSL spec
23:52 angy nope
23:53 Sgt_Lemming it is nothing to do with PPPoE or IPoE
23:53 Sgt_Lemming yes
23:53 Cprossu vDSL worked quite well when I set up my buds with it.
23:53 Sgt_Lemming it's how DSL, the physical transmission layer, works
23:53 angy explain why I'm 1ms away in DSL and 4 in fiber?
23:53 Cprossu I was in the covered area but good luck telling the phone company what is in their coverage area
23:53 Cprossu when they just got bought out.
23:53 Sgt_Lemming because you're fibre is shit by the sounds of it
23:53 angy same endpoint, same routing, same length roufly
23:53 angy to you all is shit apparently
23:53 Cprossu cox nor comcast know how to route anything.
23:54 Sgt_Lemming angy, there is a reason everyone in the world is trying to move to fibre
23:54 Sythen this was the state of my internal box before i complaing, please be aware, some of this images, might be disturbing
23:54 Cprossu I used to be 15 hops away from google.
23:54 Sythen https://picasaweb.google.com/syth3n/CableMess?authuser=0&amp;feat=directlink
23:54 Cprossu let me check what I am now
23:54 angy uping BW, not reducing latency
23:54 Sgt_Lemming because it's better than anything else for high speed high reliability connections
23:54 Sgt_Lemming yes, reducing latency
23:54 Cprossu Sorry, that page was not found.
23:54 Sgt_Lemming anyone who tells you otherwise is dreaming
23:54 angy everyone don't give a shit to latency
23:54 Sgt_Lemming actually, yes they do
23:55 angy you want bandwidth, not latency
23:55 Cprossu I sure as hell do. low latency and upload bw is what I like.
23:55 Sgt_Lemming actually no I want both
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23:55 Cprossu only 14 hops to google this time. =P
23:55 Sythen https://picasaweb.google.com/syth3n/CableMess?authuser=0&amp;authkey=Gv1sRgCMSat9P6g5n0UA&amp;feat=directlink
23:55 Sythen sorry
23:55 Sythen my bad
23:55 Cprossu how many hops are you to google angy?
23:55 IsopropylAlcohol Hello GG
23:55 Cprossu hey IsopropylAlcohol long time no see
23:56 angy let me see
23:56 angy if I can load my console :p
23:56 Cprossu I've got a mess like that only I have a amp in mine.
23:56 Cprossu I dare not open the box
23:56 electrodynamic who here knows how to "code" a new key for a BMW 320TD compact ///m tech sport????
23:56 electrodynamic BMW want 260!!!
23:56 injektion Charter was very professional here when they connected service here
23:56 Sgt_Lemming angy, I am not sure how you get the idea that copper is higher latency than fibre, but either the fibre equipment you have used is crap, or the laws of physics are wrong
23:56 Sythen i used to be a cable engineeer
23:56 electrodynamic fcuk that shit lol
23:57 Cprossu because it gets rewired as soon as my SNR's go into the toilet for free
23:57 angy 8
23:57 Sgt_Lemming signals in fibre move at 90% of light speed, signals on copper move at about 1/3 light speed
23:57 injektion AT&T made a huge mess when they did the U-verse install
23:57 angy for fiber you need a SFP at each end
23:58 angy and amplifiers the way it runs
23:58 Sgt_Lemming depends on the fibre system you are using
23:58 Cprossu in cable/coax you need lots of nodes and amplifiers
23:58 Cprossu and man does it suck when a ndoe goes down =P
23:58 Sgt_Lemming fibre can have a lot longer run without an amplifier with fibre than you can with copper
23:58 angy in fact, I'm more 4 hops away from google
23:58 Cprossu *node
23:58 angy the 4 lasts hops are within google network
23:59 Sgt_Lemming this is why they use fibre for transoceanic cables, rather than copper
23:59 Cprossu my first google hop starts at 13.
23:59 angy which end server you got?
23:59 angy I'm going to trace to the same :)
23:59 Cprossu 74.125.73.99
23:59 angy 10 hops to it

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