Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-09-16

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00:00 * Ponko has killed chat again
00:00 tonsofpcs obv
00:01 Ponko well i did mention the game
00:01 Ponko so i'm not surprised
00:03 egrsteve maybe botsteve should be programed to kick anyone who mentions the game to prevent the death of chat
00:03 Ponko hmmm
00:03 Ponko what about when the chat just dies
00:03 egrsteve just kick, no bannign needed
00:03 Ponko i'm definately gonna be kicked then
00:03 Ponko best start packing
00:04 egrsteve botsteve then intiates a netsplit
00:04 Sythen huh?
00:04 egrsteve in hopes that the huge log out/in will draw attention to everyones IRC clients
00:05 egrsteve and restart chat
00:05 Ponko hmm
00:05 Sythen did i miss something?
00:05 egrsteve probably
00:05 tonsofpcs egrsteve: mention the game?
00:05 egrsteve Ponko killed chat, again
00:05 Sythen im watchin high voltage stuffs, im happy
00:05 egrsteve which game the game or THE game
00:05 * Ponko does his british apology face
00:05 Sythen hehe
00:05 Ponko the thanskgiving game
00:06 tonsofpcs like http://xkcd.com/391/ ?
00:06 Ponko Pack @ Detroit
00:06 egrsteve so the game
00:06 Sythen the british apology face is a boot to the face
00:06 egrsteve thanks tonsofpcs
00:06 tonsofpcs Ponko: the thanksgiving game for me has been "ZOMG Power Failure, Phase lost on the street!" for the past two years.
00:06 Sythen what game?
00:06 egrsteve THE game
00:06 tonsofpcs egrsteve: thank randall
00:06 tonsofpcs also, crap, hdd full, brb
00:06 egrsteve good point
00:07 * egrsteve degausses tonsofpcs HD, problem solved
00:07 Ponko hmm
00:07 Sythen well, if you do that, you kill the drive
00:07 egrsteve and it's no longer full
00:07 Ponko well i can't play or watch that game tonsofpc
00:07 Ponko nor can i play the Pack-Lions game but i can still watch
00:08 egrsteve no cows in Britain?
00:08 Sythen loads of cows
00:08 Ponko yeah my ex
00:08 Ponko from uk
00:08 egrsteve then it should't be a problem
00:09 Sythen my ex wife qualifies
00:09 Ponko what the Pack-Lions game?
00:09 Ponko haha
00:09 egrsteve then the chances of wining the game have risen from zero to infinite minus one against
00:11 egrsteve ttyl, time for me to go home
00:11 tonsofpcs cya
00:11 Ponko all i think of is Hitchikkers Guide To The Galaxy
00:12 egrsteve at least you got that reference
00:22 * tonsofpcs needs to find something for dinner...
00:22 Ponko egrsteve is gone and chat has died
00:23 tonsofpcs Ponko: it was alive until you thought it dead, now it is dead.  (cya later)
00:23 pegasus five minutes into the pilot and i spot a problem that has never been addressed.
00:24 pegasus (SG-1)
00:24 * pegasus ponders
00:24 tonsofpcs pegasus: if you are watching Stargate and expect continuity (or anything similar), prepare to be upset
00:24 Sythen leave sg-1 alone
00:24 tonsofpcs "suspension of disbelief" is key.
00:24 Sythen sg-1 is like the bible dude
00:24 pegasus i've seen SG1, SGA, and SGU
00:24 pegasus most of the time they retcon mistakes away
00:24 pegasus but this one they've never bothered with
00:25 * tonsofpcs retcons pegasus away
00:25 pegasus that would be interesting.
00:25 Sythen thats the great thing about tv, its actually a story, and they say it is
00:26 pegasus i have no idea what you're talking about
00:26 pegasus but the series has several differences from the movie that are just givens, but the series is also pretty self-consistent overall
00:26 pegasus except for this gaping hole in S1E1, 5 minutes in
00:27 tonsofpcs ...
00:27 tonsofpcs what hole?
00:27 pegasus apophis comes out of the gate, right?
00:28 pegasus kills everyone, takes the girl
00:28 pegasus hammond and the reinforcements arrive
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00:28 pegasus and apophis goes BACK INTO THE GATE WITHOUT REDIALING
00:28 hopstafarian hoping that someone here has some experience with data recovery?
00:29 Sythen who cares?
00:29 tonsofpcs wait, this line of complaints is all just becaause they time compressed the show by removing things that you can just assume happened?
00:29 pegasus i care
00:29 Toastdude And what exactly is SG-1 about?
00:29 Sythen stop being so anal about it
00:29 pegasus ...seriously?
00:29 tonsofpcs pegasus: reread what I asked
00:29 Sythen enjoy it for what it is
00:29 Sythen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_SG-1
00:29 tonsofpcs if it still doesn't make sense, reread it again and again, I'm going to the store.
00:30 pegasus if anyone's being anal, it isn't me.
00:30 pegasus anyway, this series has entire forums dedicated to working out angular velocities for ship maneuvers in every episode and other insane nonsense like that
00:30 Sythen your bringing up flaws in a sco-fi series, that is really well done, but like fine wine, and good women, they all have flaws in them
00:31 Sythen thats being anal
00:31 eadthem pegasus he has a handheld dhd
00:31 Sythen dhd?
00:31 pegasus eadthem: that's the only explanation, but even then why was he standing in the same place when hammond burst into the room
00:32 pegasus Sythen: you are no longer allowed to participate in this conversation
00:32 hopstafarian specifically have questions about file carving?
00:32 Sythen ermm, yes, i can
00:32 pegasus if you don't know what a dhd is, your opinion is hereby disregarded for all things stargate.
00:33 Sythen why? becuase im not an elitist sci-fi nerd like yourself?
00:33 Sythen instead of casting me aside, teach me
00:33 pegasus watch the show and pay attention. 10 seasons of education right there in video format.
00:34 Sythen so instead of explaining the meaning of dhd, i still have to wait 7 hours and abit before i can learn? you elitist arsehat
00:34 pegasus QQ.
00:35 Sythen nah, its just twats like you really, go somewhere else, knobed
00:35 tonsofpcs pegasus: If you don't know what time-compression editing is, your opinion is disregarded for all things TV
00:36 pegasus tonsofpcs: i know what it is, i also know about standing in the same place, along with everyone else. do you?
00:36 * pegasus goes back to watching the show
00:36 Sythen the one thing that you dont understand, is a mistake, guess what, we all make em from time to time
00:36 Sythen deal with it
00:37 Sythen tonsofpcs, if you dont mind, what does dhd mean?
00:37 * hopstafarian is making mistakes at this very moment..
00:38 tonsofpcs Sythen: it is irrelevant for the topic at hand
00:38 Sythen ok then
00:41 Sythen i do apologise for my attitude previously, but elitist's really annoy me
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00:55 Toastdude Hi lwq
00:56 Toastdude Hi ajt
00:56 ajt Hiya!
00:56 ajt Toastdude: how's your evening sir?
00:56 lwq toast i ate 4 of your babies for breakfast today....
00:56 ajt oh that sounds delicious
00:56 ajt eggs I assume?
00:56 Toastdude Are you new, ajt?
00:56 ajt Toastdude: that sir I am
00:56 Toastdude Cool :) Welcome!
00:57 lwq no i just ate toast...5min breakfast
00:57 ajt new to #TheGeekGroup…been using freenode since before it was freenode :)
00:57 Toastdude Mine, was good, how was yours?
00:57 lwq im playing cod so i may not respond
00:57 Toastdude Lol, okay lwq
00:57 ajt I'm reconfiguring nginx & php-fpm to not timeout
00:57 ajt should be running this via CLI tbh but I'm lazy
00:57 Toastdude Talk to someone else on here....
00:57 Toastdude Lol
00:58 Toastdude I know nothing about PHP
00:59 ajt Toastdude: I'm just rambling…that's what I'm working on
00:59 ajt Toastdude: so where you from?
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01:02 Toastdude Us, you?
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01:03 Toastdude Hi egrsteve!
01:03 ajt Toastdude: likewise
01:03 Toastdude Ah. What state?
01:03 Sythen eelo egrsteve
01:03 ajt Toastdude: I'm in Grand Rapids, MI
01:03 Toastdude Aw... Lucky
01:04 egrsteve hello
01:04 ajt Toastdude: I randomly discovered The Geek Group some how so here I idle :)
01:04 ajt Surprised I hadn't heard of it before
01:04 Toastdude Well, it used to be in Kzoo
01:04 Toastdude Brb
01:07 tonsofpcs I randomly discovered TGG some how so I drove to GRR from upstate NY and worked on an audio console :-p
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01:07 SuperToast Back
01:08 tonsofpcs ajt: what's your geekspertise?
01:09 ajt tonsofpcs: computers & technology. I'm rather mechanically inclinded as well
01:09 SuperToast Are you quantum-mechanically inclined?
01:09 SuperToast :P
01:10 ajt nope
01:10 ajt can't say that I am
01:10 SuperToast Aw...
01:10 pegasus eadthem: 41 minutes in, he dials off abydos without a handheld dhd.
01:10 ajt soemthign I'd love to learn more about
01:10 ajt been considering going back to school for fun
01:11 ajprog_laptop what is your computer specialty?
01:11 SuperToast ajt: How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
01:11 ajt ajprog_laptop: programming mainly now a days. I used to do networking and sysadmin stuff years ago
01:11 ajt SuperToast: 29
01:11 ajprog_laptop what lang?
01:11 SuperToast Ah. Cool
01:12 ajt ajprog_laptop:  php, python, obj-c (learning), java, c++, & javascript
01:12 SuperToast Yay, Python!
01:13 ajt love me some python wish I could use it more often
01:13 SuperToast I'm in the middle of learning it
01:13 ajprog_laptop are you from Build Guild?
01:13 ajt Mainly write PHP all day. Looking to get into mobile app dev tho
01:13 hopstafarian python=cool
01:13 ajt ajprog_laptop: I've been wanting to goto that but havn't had a chance
01:14 ajprog_laptop there is a aj that heads it up, wondered if that was you
01:14 ajt oic. I'll have to check it out. thanks for reminding me so I can add it to my calendar
01:16 ajprog_laptop I am also a php programmer
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01:20 * tonsofpcs isn't a php programmer but he plays one on tv
01:22 Ponko-Cleaning damn this is tireing
01:23 ajt ajprog_laptop: nice you located in gr as well?
01:24 ajprog_laptop yep, I come into the lab most days
01:27 lwq .seen wannabe1987
01:27 BotSteve lwq: I last saw wannabe1987 1.95 hours ago at 2011-09-15 23:30:26 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:27:12 UTC
01:27 lwq damn
01:28 lwq .seen zozo120
01:28 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen zozo120 around.
01:28 lwq .seen zozo
01:28 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen zozo around.
01:29 ajt ajprog_laptop: I'll have to stop down there soon. which reminds me I need to go get my mountain bike rims from freewheeler
01:31 ajprog_laptop weren't you the one talking to ynos and was going to stop by the other day?
01:40 ajt got so much work coming at me it I can't keep up
01:40 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/user/Photonicinduction#p/u/0/JzdgzmVjWQk
01:40 ajt and ended up getting side tracked
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01:58 * wannabe-afk is completely exhausted
01:59 wannabe1987 .seen lwq
01:59 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw lwq 0.51 hours ago at 2011-09-16 01:28:31 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:59:15 UTC
01:59 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
01:59 BotSteve No problem, wannabe1987
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02:06 Toastdude Hi wannabe1987
02:06 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude
02:06 wannabe1987 lwq
02:27 Ponko-Cleaning ah i'm done for now
02:27 wannabe1987 what were you cleaning ponky?
02:30 Ponko-Cleaning my room
02:30 wannabe1987 ahhhh
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02:50 wannabe1987 .
02:54 Cprossu yay!
02:55 wannabe1987 yay what
02:55 Cprossu idk but YAY!
02:55 wannabe1987 party time?
02:56 Cprossu miller time... shit... Corona time!
02:56 wannabe1987 no beer here (none thats mine anyway....
02:56 wannabe1987 frost advisory tonight....there was frost on my windshield last night/this am as well :(
02:57 Cprossu it froze over here for a week. it was hell trying to find an ice scraper.
02:57 Cprossu ^true story.
02:57 wannabe1987 loli  believe it.  i keep one in the car all year long so i can find it come winter/fall
02:58 Cprossu in phoenix we need an ice scraper approx 7 times a year, and one of those times it's used for prying something instead of scraping ice.
02:58 wannabe1987 lol
02:58 Cprossu (which breaks said scraper so you don't have it the next time you need it)
03:03 wannabe1987 i know it snowed in albuqurque last year....did it snow by you?
03:05 Ponko it snowed in luton
03:05 CaptainNiobe morning all
03:12 wannabe1987 CaptainNiobe does it snow by you?
03:12 wannabe1987 :p
03:12 injektion|drwho I've watched enough Dr. Who for tonight
03:12 wannabe1987 is there such a thing as enough dr who?
03:13 CaptainNiobe lol... hell no, the climate where i am is way too warm for snow... get it down south though...
03:13 wannabe1987 k i'm moving there then
03:14 CaptainNiobe if it makes you feel any better, i've never seen real snow in my life... :D
03:14 wannabe1987 o.O
03:14 wannabe1987 i'lll bring some along
03:14 CaptainNiobe lol... thanks :P
03:15 injektion|drwho wannabe1987, It's late and I have painful indigestion once again
03:16 wannabe1987 awww :(
03:17 * wannabe1987 wanders around apt again waiting for browser to start responding
03:21 lwq it responded :P
03:21 lwq i see you online again
03:21 injektion|drwho I need to stop using so much siraicha
03:22 wannabe1987 lol its slow....
03:22 wannabe1987 yes, injektion|drwho its bad for your indigestion....
03:24 injektion|drwho But it's so fucking good
03:24 * Ponko is listening to Helena
03:24 Ponko by MCR
03:25 injektion|drwho lol
03:25 * injektion notices there is an empty corner in the room perfect for crying
03:25 wannabe1987 why cry?
03:26 Ponko hey shut it idk y but its a good song to go mad and head bang to
03:26 Ponko or just mime along to
03:26 Ponko i could of said i was listening to Erasure Sometimes
03:27 * lwq is sad now
03:27 lwq i dint like to see people sad
03:27 Ponko i'm perfectly happy
03:27 wannabe1987 lwq don't be sad
03:27 wannabe1987 Ponko we're not talking about you ....
03:27 Ponko i was just stating my status
03:27 wannabe1987 ok
03:28 Ponko but i assume injektion was suggesting that i cry in the corner for listening to MCR
03:28 wannabe1987 i didn't get that, but ok
03:28 wannabe1987 i'm glad you're happy.
03:29 Ponko or it could of been a good dr who episode but with a sad outcome
03:29 Ponko idk
03:29 injektion Ponko, I just watched one of those which was from last Sunday
03:30 Ponko but what was with the corner bit then o_O ehh? lol
03:30 wannabe1987 corners are good for crying in?
03:30 wannabe1987 idk
03:30 Ponko lol
03:30 Ponko oh well
03:30 wannabe1987 i prefer a pillow and a bed/couch
03:30 injektion Ponko, It's the phrase "go cry in the corner emo kid"
03:31 Ponko ;) gathered
03:31 Ponko but i ain't emo emo
03:31 Ponko i'm the outside of that
03:31 injektion There are stages of emoness now
03:31 Ponko yeah
03:31 injektion I didn't get that memo
03:31 Ponko unfortunately
03:32 wannabe1987 stages?
03:32 wannabe1987 such as?
03:33 Ponko not stages as such but types
03:34 wannabe1987 such as?
03:34 Ponko people on the apex of being emo that meaning they're NOT emo but they have some tendancies
03:35 Ponko idk really its hard to explain
03:35 wannabe1987 tendancies?
03:35 Ponko and yeah thats sad
03:35 Ponko well they like emo music and stuff like that
03:38 Ponko yeah wierd
03:38 Ponko i didn't make it up
03:39 wannabe1987 who are you talking to?  i don't think i have someone ignored.....
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03:39 Ponko i was just saying
03:39 wannabe1987 ah.  it looked like you were talking to someone
03:39 angy joined #thegeekgroup
03:39 Ponko yeah you
03:39 Ponko lol
03:40 wannabe1987 ANGY!
03:40 Ponko uh oh
03:40 angy wannabe1987! Ponkyyyy!
03:40 lwq when is chris's birthday
03:41 wannabe1987 march 15
03:41 * wannabe1987 gives angy tea
03:41 Ponko Photonicinduction needs to get on here
03:41 Ponko he's a flipping legend
03:42 lwq only half a year to this day
03:42 lwq ik what to get him for his birthday too
03:42 Ponko o_O
03:42 wannabe1987 waht?
03:42 lwq marienet
03:42 Ponko i'm sure he'd want money to help him start stuff going
03:42 Ponko just saying
03:43 Ponko if you don't know what to get someone give them money
03:43 Ponko helped my sis' mate give my nephew a present
03:43 wannabe1987 Ponko agreed
03:43 lwq being the bastard i am its going to be a crule sick joke because he hates them
03:43 Ponko which was money
03:43 Ponko yeah make sure you address it as Seroster then
03:44 Ponko lol
03:44 lwq XD OK
03:44 Ponko lol
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03:44 angy at least, its easy for you Ponko, just give tea :p
03:44 lwq DID YOU WATCH THE NEW CB...he hates marienets
03:44 Ponko ah yes PG Tips
03:45 Ponko even Tetleys
03:45 lwq .seen masterofmonks
03:45 BotSteve lwq: I last saw masterofmonks 5.85 hours ago at 2011-09-15 21:54:04 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:45:16 UTC
03:47 angy Nah, I'll offer you rare teas
03:47 angy a minima for birthays
03:48 angy I may even do it, tea is not really heavy to sent by parcels
03:49 wannabe1987 lwq come back to facebook....:(
03:50 wannabe1987 figures
03:50 lwq joined #thegeekgroup
03:50 wannabe1987 lwq come back to facebook....:(
03:56 Sythen someone left facebook?
03:58 wannabe1987 he's having router issues
03:58 angy I should left Facebook...
03:59 wannabe1987 why?
04:00 Sythen am i not good enough to talk too? lol
04:00 wannabe1987 no, he had messaged me on facebook
04:00 wannabe1987 and i wanted to know why he said what he said....
04:00 wannabe1987 besides, we're not fb friends....
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04:01 angy I don't like the Facebook philosophy
04:01 Sythen pfff,
04:01 Sythen heheh
04:01 Sythen same heh
04:01 splint What philosophy is that?
04:01 angy but I dislike more google and still use it from time to time, so...
04:03 wannabe1987 google or google +?
04:03 wannabe1987 i wish this DAMN COMPUTER would work omg
04:03 angy Google Inc.
04:04 * wannabe1987 is going back to chrome....at least it would work better than ff
04:05 wannabe1987 chrome'll onely kill a few webpages at a time, not all at once
04:05 tesla4d You know what I love the most about the Geek Group?
04:05 wannabe1987 what
04:05 angy dammit I did not had a chance to chez Toast tonight
04:06 tesla4d Judging by the videos, the members at the lab are half scientists, half artists, and all maintenance workers.
04:06 lwq screw off
04:06 wannabe1987 ?
04:06 lwq sorry to a friend on facebook
04:06 tesla4d (Well, more like, half technicians, half videographers, but still maintenance workers)
04:07 wannabe1987 :hugs: -> lee
04:07 wannabe1987 sorry, i'd talk on facebook, but (not responding)
04:07 lwq ha
04:07 lwq atleast ie didnt do it
04:08 BatSteve wannabe1987: depending on where you want to go and how expensive fuel is, the cost to do aerial picture taking is usually a three-digit number.
04:09 wannabe1987 i figured....i want an aerial of my parents neighborhood....hmmmmm
04:10 wannabe1987 for a possible artprize event next year...
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04:13 Druidic_Rifleman XD My Sp1 blackheart is fixed MUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
04:14 wannabe1987 hi Druidic_Rifleman
04:14 Druidic_Rifleman Also is it bad i wanna get perminat marking rounds made for police and sit ontop ofthe lab and light up any onetagging the building
04:14 wannabe1987 lol
04:14 Druidic_Rifleman ... with non delible LE grade paint...
04:15 Druidic_Rifleman Only 1200 rounds a minute max ROF
04:15 lwq hmmm.
04:15 wannabe1987 hm?
04:15 lwq talk to chris and he may give you a job at night
04:15 Druidic_Rifleman my Sp1 Can shoot 1200 shoots a minute
04:16 Druidic_Rifleman Freeze your under citizens arrest for trespassing and vandalism Get on the ground now
04:16 wannabe1987 lwq PM?
04:21 Druidic_Rifleman Also got another person interested in TGG OntCan
04:23 splint What's TGG?
04:23 lwq O.O
04:23 lwq the geek group
04:24 splint LMFAO, i am such a loswer
04:24 lwq and a fail?
04:24 splint i can't even spell loser right -_-
04:29 splint So so so! How's everyones evening or morning or afternoon going?!
04:32 splint That good huh? mine too!
04:32 wannabe1987 :P
04:32 wannabe1987 sorry, not responding computer
04:32 wannabe1987 my day was exhausting
04:32 wannabe1987 yours?
04:33 splint Hmmm i was going to do work and then i saw the minecraft update had come out.
04:33 wannabe1987 lol
04:33 splint aaaand nothing happened.  I cleaned my room though!  I realized that when all you own is a desk and a computer
04:33 splint a whole room is very empty
04:33 wannabe1987 lol
04:34 splint I opened a beer and i could hear it reverberate on the walls like 15 times... i feel like lain from serial experiments.  Just a bed folded up in the closet and my computer in the dark.
04:35 wannabe1987 you need more people!
04:36 splint yea i'm really aware =/  I live with two friends from college, we get along well enough!  The rest of my friends i had made though are just like... school work weed
04:37 splint which i mean you know that is cool now and then but it's all their about sooo i've had a falling out with pretty much everyone i know around here, and with no car and no bike it is hard to go to social things.
04:37 wannabe1987 :(
04:38 splint It's whatever! I needed to work on social skills anyways XD
04:39 wannabe1987 who doens't need towork on social skills
04:39 Druidic_Rifleman I might of recruited a new geek
04:39 splint Hmm true.  What's he like druid?
04:39 splint or she!
04:41 wannabe1987 Druidic_Rifleman who?
04:42 Druidic_Rifleman My buddy danny he was the one who fixed muh gun
04:42 wannabe1987 cool
04:47 Druidic_Rifleman we we're chatting and i said to check it out
04:48 splint Seemed interested??
04:48 * wannabe1987 feels bad
04:49 * splint ponders reasons why
04:49 * wannabe1987 also feels useless
04:51 * splint wonders who the other useless person is!
04:51 wannabe1987 ?
04:52 splint OH
04:52 splint it's you
04:52 splint haha...
04:52 splint why do you feel bad and useless?
04:53 wannabe1987 because i haven't worked in a year.  and i have all this "Stuff" that needs to be kept somewhere but i have nowhere to keep it.
04:55 splint It's like impossible to find a job, the only things i've been able to do in the past 2 years while i'm at school are work with my dad when i go home and do webdesign things online
04:55 splint Though webdesign has been fairly lucrative when i can get a good client and focus and get the work done quickly
04:55 wannabe1987 yeah.  i don't have that skill
04:56 splint Dude neither did i, lied through my teeth to atleast 3 people.
04:56 splint "Oh yea i can do that, no problem, i have a lot of school work though so it'll take me three weeks"
04:56 splint -THREE WEEKS of NONSTOP googling later
04:56 splint "hey it looks great!"
04:57 wannabe1987 lol
04:58 splint What are you skilled in?
04:59 wannabe1987 i have training for a nursing assistant, but everyone wants experience and i aint got none :(
04:59 splint ask to intern?
04:59 wannabe1987 i can't afford an unpaid internship....
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04:59 wannabe1987 i haven't worked in a year...i'll have no way to get there
05:00 splint hmmmm...... intern + shit job = unhappy for a while but good long term?
05:00 splint back to school to be a nurse?
05:00 wannabe1987 i don't know...i want to enter the mental health field
05:00 splint back to school for that!
05:00 Experimentonomen splint, wut kinda job do u have ?
05:02 Experimentonomen myself i work for this place: www.xavitech.com
05:02 splint Well i'm going to school for network security which i can do like 10298 things with so it's hard to say what i will be doing, as for now i try and freelance web esign work.
05:02 splint PHP, simple html + decent at CSS etc.
05:02 wannabe1987 splint can't afford school
05:03 splint Woa, those are super littler! haha i like the match pitcher.
05:03 splint And i could but not anymore, need to stop dicking around with grades.
05:03 splint @experimentonomen what exactly do you do?
05:04 Experimentonomen peoduct developement and assembly
05:05 splint @wannabe i am an idiot i thought you meant I couldn't XD.... Not even with student loans?
05:05 wannabe1987 i have 3 out already....that i can't pay
05:05 splint make it four! it's only debt =D
05:06 AndChat- Work at fedex its a good job while in school, that's what I do.
05:06 wannabe1987 i only have 36k in debt, splint
05:06 wannabe1987 its not that easy to get a lone
05:06 wannabe1987 loan*
05:06 wannabe1987 i want to open a restaurant someday
05:06 Experimentonomen loans are evil
05:08 Seroster Thank FSM it's friday
05:09 splint Wellll... Yea that's hard to know what to do then, you either got to bite the bullet and take out another loan and go for nursing so you can make good money, pay off the loans you have and then do what you want
05:09 splint even though you won't be doing what you REALLY want, or you gotta try and get into a mental health school *somehow* and do the same thing
05:09 Seroster Sup Experimentonomen?
05:10 Sgt_Lemming well, interesting one
05:10 Sgt_Lemming just pulled apart an older ibm laptop
05:10 Sgt_Lemming r31
05:10 Sgt_Lemming and it has a magnesium frame
05:11 Experimentonomen g'day Seroster
05:11 Sgt_Lemming so entirely possible the T40 TGG zapped, had one as well
05:11 splint brb
05:11 Experimentonomen i have a md player made outta magnesium
05:12 wannabe1987 life sucks
05:14 Experimentonomen why do u say that ?
05:16 mantere hakuna matata
05:16 wannabe1987 because it does...i'm sinking.
05:17 Experimentonomen nah
05:18 wannabe1987 how do you know?
05:18 wannabe1987 the friend i moved in with is having issues with my extra stuff here.....
05:18 Ponko omg that bloke is flipping hilarious
05:18 Experimentonomen cuz i used to feel like gthat during school
05:19 Ponko oh no he's gonna blow up an aerosol can
05:19 wannabe1987 i can't hold a job.  i can't even FIND a job....i havne' tworked in a year, and so employers aren't keen to hire me....
05:19 wannabe1987 without a job i can't get my meds
05:19 wannabe1987 without my meds i get depressed
05:19 wannabe1987 when depressed i don't feel like job hunting, and can't get a job
05:20 Experimentonomen here in sweden we have a place that helps u with job finding
05:21 Ponko so do we in britain
05:21 Ponko called the jobcentre
05:21 Experimentonomen and social services to back u up if u dont have a income
05:21 wannabe1987 we do here too, but they're so back logged
05:21 wannabe1987 i have food stamps....
05:22 Experimentonomen time for me to run off to work
05:22 Experimentonomen bbl
05:23 Seroster Are you going to the arbetsförmedlingen? =P
05:24 Ponko fucking hell Photonicinduction is flipping hilarious
05:25 Seroster No
05:25 Seroster He's a fucking retard.
05:25 Ponko typical south londoner
05:25 Cprossu he's a fucking hillarious retard.
05:25 Ponko thats why he's funny
05:25 Seroster With a speech impediment
05:25 Ponko a cockney speech impediment
05:26 Seroster You can call it whatever you want Its still irritating
05:27 Ponko yeah like my cousins wifes cousin
05:27 Ponko c'mon we know the stuff he does is really dangerous
05:28 Ponko but he's never got hurt and i think it would get about 2 mil views if he did a live show and got hurt
05:29 Seroster Yes. He is like nascar. We all just want the parcipitants to die in the most fiery way imaginable
05:29 Ponko he blew up a fucking aerosol can
05:30 Ponko oh god
05:30 Ponko today is the first time i've seen him before
05:30 Seroster .w Dysprosody
05:30 BotSteve "Dysprosody, which is also known as pseudo-foreign dialect syndrome, refers to a disorder in which one or more of the prosodic functions are either compromised or eliminated completely." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysprosody
05:31 Ponko i've heard of him but never seen him
05:31 Ponko .w Dybraxia
05:31 BotSteve "Apraxia is a disorder caused by damage to specific areas of the cerebrum." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apraxia
05:31 Ponko fucking hell
05:31 Ponko .w Dysbraxia
05:31 BotSteve "Developmental dyspraxia is a motor learning difficulty that can affect planning of movements and co-ordination as a result of brain messages not being accurately transmitted to the body." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Developmental_dyspraxia
05:32 Ponko hmm ok i have that aparently
05:32 Seroster Anyhow
05:32 Ponko lets move along
05:33 Seroster I can't listen to him speak. What he does is dangerous and stupid, and he takes too long to say what he wants to say (bad vlogger/actor/whatever)
05:33 wannabe1987 i don't know what you're talking about so whatev
05:34 Seroster Photy
05:36 Ponko but hang on some of the stuff you talk about are like that
05:36 Ponko dangerous and stupid ;) lol
05:36 Ponko i kid of course
05:36 * Seroster runs away and cries
05:36 Ponko i've never seen you blow up a TV
05:36 Seroster Indeed not.
05:37 Seroster I kinda like having eyesight.
05:37 Ponko i'm just wondering how he's not severely fucked up
05:37 Seroster Dumb luck
05:37 wannabe1987 guardian angels :P
05:37 Ponko i mean he's fucked up but i mean SERIOUSLY FUCKED UP
05:38 Seroster heh
05:38 Ponko he's like a typical south londoner
05:39 Ponko brash, loud, annoying as fuck and just plain irritating
05:40 Seroster Remind me not to go to S london.
05:40 Ponko they're not ALL like that though
05:40 Ponko just some
05:40 Ponko if you bump into him try and refrain from slapping him
05:42 Ponko anyways i'm knackered
05:43 Ponko night
05:43 wannabe1987 nigh
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05:43 wannabe1987 night
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05:55 wannabe1987 hi NeWtoz
05:55 wannabe1987 NeWtoz-phone*
05:55 NeWtoz-phone Yo
05:56 wannabe1987 sup
05:56 NeWtoz-phone Just enjoying my 10 hour shift
05:56 wannabe1987 are men THAT insensitive?!
05:57 wannabe1987 cool
05:57 wannabe1987 is it going well?
05:57 NeWtoz-phone Nothing noteworthy, but not bad
05:58 wannabe1987 i posted a status update about how "i can't do this anymore" and a "friend" goes "twss" (thats what she said) and i told him i had to delete it cuz i'm going through a crisis here and its insensitive and he goes "whatever"
05:59 NeWtoz-phone Twss doesn't really fit
05:59 wannabe1987 exactly
06:17 wannabe1987 god i hate mushy status updates :puke:
06:18 Sgt_Lemming ...?
06:19 wannabe1987 "all twenty six letters can't describe how beautiful she is"
06:20 * wannabe1987 needs a hug. or a shoulder. or both....
06:22 * Sgt_Lemming hands wannabe1987 a shoulder
06:24 * wannabe1987 puts the pork shoulder in the crock pot. thanks!
06:24 wannabe1987 :P
06:30 Sgt_Lemming that may taste like pork, but pork it was not...
06:31 wannabe1987 sorry, was it yours?
06:31 * Sgt_Lemming looks dejectedly at his arm that is now lying on the floor
06:31 wannabe1987 better get you BACK to the hospital :S
06:32 Sgt_Lemming heh
06:33 pegasus http://i.imgur.com/6wax8.jpg -- win
06:40 killakee^afk sunshine megatron hehe
06:42 killakee^afk coffeeee
06:43 Sgt_Lemming bbaassttaarrdd
06:43 Sgt_Lemming I need to go and get milk so I can make coffee
06:43 Sgt_Lemming should go and do it
06:43 wannabe1987 lol
06:43 Sgt_Lemming but cbf
06:43 * wannabe1987 gives lemming a cow
06:43 * Sgt_Lemming doesn't have a cow... man
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06:50 * wannabe1987 has fire
06:51 Sgt_Lemming bleh
06:51 Sgt_Lemming synchronizing the raid array on this server
06:51 Sgt_Lemming this is gonna take a little while
06:51 Sgt_Lemming 146GB to sync up
06:52 wannabe1987 o.O
07:07 wannabe1987 night
07:16 killakee^afk there coffie in the system booted me right up :D
07:23 killakee everyone gone to bed ?
07:25 HoboEngineer yes
07:26 killakee hehe
07:26 killakee thats what bites coming from norway :/
07:27 HoboEngineer Still no other nightcrawlers?
07:30 killakee huh?
07:32 killakee going to finnish my TC
08:02 pegasus <- not asleep. stargate marathon.
08:03 Druidic_Rifleman Wh else has insomnia
08:03 Sgt_Lemming <- not asleep. firefly marathon + setting up server
08:04 Sgt_Lemming not to mention it's only 18:00 here
08:04 Druidic_Rifleman Says the guy on another contenant
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08:05 Druidic_Rifleman Files a TGG form 30.7714 and has 3 geek points decuted from Sgt_Lemming's score
08:05 Sgt_Lemming ...?
08:05 Sgt_Lemming for what?
08:06 Druidic_Rifleman Sanswering a night crawler while it's day light where you are
08:06 Sgt_Lemming not daylight
08:06 Sgt_Lemming not daylight at all
08:06 Druidic_Rifleman 6 PM is dark allready?
08:06 * Sgt_Lemming nods
08:06 Sgt_Lemming sub tropical here
08:06 Druidic_Rifleman wow
08:07 Sgt_Lemming 27°s I think
08:07 Sgt_Lemming or might be 21°
08:07 Sgt_Lemming but yeah, not that far south of the equator
08:09 killakee^TCmakin its 0,5 c here ;)
08:09 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc brisbane
08:09 BotSteve 20°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Brisbane, AS!  'Enjoy.'
08:10 Sgt_Lemming annoys me that it says "AS", the country code for australia is AU
08:15 HoboEngineer Really? I thought it was Astralia
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08:21 Druidic_Rifleman tanilolli where are you frums
08:21 Druidic_Rifleman .tfwc oshawa
08:22 Druidic_Rifleman Bot steve doesn't like me
08:22 Druidic_Rifleman .tfwc toronto
08:22 BotSteve 6°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Oshawa, CA!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
08:22 BotSteve 7°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Toronto, CA!  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
08:23 Druidic_Rifleman oooooh Not long till winter
08:24 Druidic_Rifleman Did any one see The show andromida?
08:25 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXtATeQ7GKg&amp;ob=av3n if you have is it just me or does thechick in this look alot like the chick who played trancee gemini
08:27 HoboEngineer .tfwc Chicago
08:27 BotSteve THE INTERNET IS FUCKING BROKEN. Please try again later.
08:27 HoboEngineer nice
08:31 HoboEngineer .tfwc Chicago
08:32 BotSteve 9°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Chicago, IL!  'An Eskimo would beat your ass to be here'
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10:49 tonsofpcs lol BotSteve
10:51 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc nairobi
10:51 BotSteve 22°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Nairobi, KE!  'Quit your bitching'
10:51 Sgt_Lemming lol
10:55 tonsofpcs .tfwc 13760
10:55 BotSteve 7°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Endicott, NY!  'I've seen better days'
10:55 tonsofpcs .tfwc 12345
10:55 BotSteve 5°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Schenectady, NY!  'An Eskimo would beat your ass to be here'
10:57 Sgt_Lemming sigh
10:57 Sgt_Lemming this is taking a while
10:58 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc 24680
10:58 BotSteve 27°C?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Lamonzie-Saint-Martin, Aquitaine, !  'HOLY FUCK'
10:58 Sgt_Lemming lol
11:33 Sgt_Lemming http://www.overclockers.com.au/image.php?pic=images/newspics/16sep11/11.jpg <--- when you see it ....
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12:23 yNos|away hi all
12:23 yNos|away .tfw 49345
12:23 BotSteve 41°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Sparta, MI!  'Where life is mediocre'
12:24 Thermoelectric Morning yNos
12:24 Thermoelectric .tfwc Cairns, AU
12:24 BotSteve 20°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Cairns, AS!  'I approve of this message!'
12:24 yNos|away .tfwc 49345
12:24 BotSteve 5°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Sparta, MI!  'An Eskimo would beat your ass to be here'
12:24 yNos|away trade ya
12:24 Thermoelectric That's a little chilly.
12:25 yNos this is just a brisk fall morning.
12:25 BotSteve yNos: I have the following messages for you:
12:25 BotSteve At 15 Sep 17:42Z, pegasus asked me to tell yNos I know how they work, i want videos!
12:25 Thermoelectric We *rarely* hit single digits in Winter (in Celsius, that is, well atleast here in Cairns)
12:27 yNos we rarely dont hit negative single digits, in F
12:27 yNos a few times a year we hit negative double digits
12:28 yNos you know where Colac, Victoria is?
12:28 Thermoelectric I know where Victoria is, not Colac though.
12:28 yNos Ok, just wondering...
12:29 Thermoelectric I can't even imagine negative double digits... The walk in freezer at work only hits -5F or so, and that's pretty nippy after being in there for any non-short amount of time.
12:29 yNos i saw a sign when i was driving through Walker, Michigan that said "Welcome to Walker, sister city of Colar, Victoria, Austrailia"
12:30 yNos its not bad, it makes you enjoy the differences in the seasons more
12:30 yNos **Colac.. not Colar..
12:31 Thermoelectric Yeah, it'd be nice to notice Autumn and Spring...
12:31 yNos so your winter/summer transistion is from warm to warmer?
12:31 yNos :P
12:31 Thermoelectric Yeah, pretty much.
12:32 yNos granted, its all reletive..
12:32 Thermoelectric http://www.reflections.com.au/Cairns/Weather/index.html
12:32 Thermoelectric That it is.
12:33 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc cairns
12:33 BotSteve 20°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Cairns, AS!  'It is safe to take your ball-mittens off.'
12:33 Thermoelectric It's nice at the moment.
12:33 Thermoelectric .tfwc Brisbane
12:33 BotSteve 16°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Brisbane, AS!  'Everything's nice butter weather!'
12:34 Thermoelectric Little cooler down your way, Lem.
12:34 yNos http://aprs.fi/weather/a/KCYM4?range=year
12:35 Thermoelectric Looks like you guys have a nice level of humidity aswell. :P
12:35 yNos oh yes
12:35 yNos up and down
12:36 yNos the high 90 deg days usually have humidity in the high 80s+
12:36 Thermoelectric Oh yes, that's always fun.
12:37 yNos i dont remember if there is a way to toggle that to celcius.
12:39 yNos or does it have a geoip locator that auto-senses units and metrification?
12:39 yNos ;)
12:39 yNos aprs.fi is fun to play with..
12:41 yNos whats the difference between a wannabe that isnt here, and a wannabe that isnt here?
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12:47 Thermoelectric Yeah, it seems to toggle into Celsius for me.
12:48 yNos Thermoelectric: http://aprs.fi/weather/a/CW9904?range=year here is one a little closer to you.
12:50 yNos Sgt_Lemming: http://aprs.fi/weather/a/CW0343?range=year and for you.
12:51 Thermoelectric Nice.
12:52 yNos Sgt_Lemming's charts have an additional graph..
12:52 yNos Luminosity
12:52 yNos i wonder if that is measuring light pollution.
12:54 yNos or light averages for the day..
12:59 Thermoelectric Light pollution would definitely not surprise me in Brisbane.
13:01 yNos are either of you ham radio ops?
13:12 Sgt_Lemming nope
13:15 yNos APRS is fun stuff to play with
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13:36 Sythen Good morning all
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13:49 yNos hiya Sythen
13:50 yNos hiya angy
13:50 Sythen mornin yNos
13:50 angy hello yNos
13:50 angy & Sythen
13:50 Sythen morning angy
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13:57 angy does anyone got any spare motivation?
13:57 Sythen i have it in ample supply
13:58 angy Great! Can I have some to go to my office this morning?
13:58 Sythen sure "GET YOUR ARSE TO WORK!"
14:01 Sythen HAHAHA
14:10 yNos noice
14:10 yNos i cant leave you guys alone for 10 minutes w/o chasing someone off, now can i?
14:12 CaptainNiobe *grins* he's british, what do you expect? :P
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14:15 yNos CaptainNiobe: how are things down south?
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14:16 CaptainNiobe after a rather warm day, cooled off nicely... i think summer's almost here... :D howsit up your way?
14:18 yNos was pretty cool this morn.. nothing a hot cuppa coffee cant fix.
14:18 Seroster^Away Darn stralians
14:19 CaptainNiobe mmmmmmm, coffee.... i want one... :D
14:19 CaptainNiobe SEROSTER! *glomps* HAI! :D
14:19 Seroster I still think "glomp" sounds like some kind of vomiting
14:19 CaptainNiobe it's not, it's a tackle/hug
14:20 yNos take a look at the log.. about 2ish hours ago.. was playing with aprs.fi and finding local wx stations.
14:20 CaptainNiobe ?
14:20 yNos i'd trade you guys wx anyday
14:21 yNos you dont get as hot or as cold.. for better or worse..
14:23 Seroster bacon
14:24 CaptainNiobe hmm, bacon
14:24 CaptainNiobe mmmm, bacon rind...
14:25 yNos bacon rind?
14:26 CaptainNiobe the skin
14:26 CaptainNiobe yummy as when cooked with the rest of the bacon
14:27 Seroster Bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon bacon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYD_UXBszqw&amp;feature=related
14:28 yNos doesnt eat bacon :(
14:28 yNos /me
14:31 Sythen http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/Pork/
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14:40 CaptainNiobe welcome home, pj :)
14:42 SparkyProjects :)
14:47 Sythen hey SparkyProjects
14:47 SparkyProjects Hi :)
14:47 CaptainNiobe 'tis a smidgen quiet in here atm lol
14:48 SparkyProjects The Americans are still asleep :P
14:48 Sythen yup
15:01 yNos no
15:01 yNos we are working.
15:01 Sythen so am i heh
15:02 Sythen not really, im watching star trek
15:02 * CaptainNiobe grumbles at Sythen
15:15 Sgt_Lemming sigh
15:15 Sgt_Lemming freaking hollywood
15:16 Sgt_Lemming guy sitting in the doorway of a bus detonates 4 pounds of c4
15:16 Sgt_Lemming the bus is still intact
15:16 Sgt_Lemming methinks not
15:16 SparkyProjects Armour plated bus ?
15:16 SparkyProjects :D
15:17 Sgt_Lemming armour doesn't protect against an explosion when the bus doors are open and the guy is sitting in the buss
15:17 Sgt_Lemming in fact, it would generally make it worse, as it confines and focuses the explosion
15:18 yNos bus or buss?
15:18 Sgt_Lemming ...?
15:18 SparkyProjects This is more like the damage it would cause http://infowars.net/pictures/dec06/111206bus2.jpg
15:18 CaptainNiobe that's hollywood for you though
15:18 yNos one transports people.. one data :P
15:18 Sgt_Lemming err, they are both "bus" yNos
15:18 Sgt_Lemming at least they are here
15:18 yNos 4 lbs would cause more damage than that picture
15:19 Sgt_Lemming a lot more
15:19 yNos like.. hole in the ground
15:20 yNos no bus to be found
15:24 Seroster Bacon, eggs, potatoes
15:24 Seroster Throw them all in a frying pan. First bacon, then the potatoes in the bacon grease, and then the eggs in the leftover. Put it all in a pot and OMNOMNOM
15:24 Seroster Damn this is good.
15:25 yNos with cheese?
15:25 Sgt_Lemming Bacon, Banana and Cheese Toasted Sandwich == Epic Mega win
15:25 Seroster Screw cheese, this is awesome as is
15:26 Seroster The simplicity of it is
15:30 CaptainNiobe that's like a bachelor's breakfast, sero... lol...
15:31 Seroster Its dinner to me
15:31 Seroster Because I am a skinny guy
15:31 SparkyProjects That's why you're skinny :P
15:32 Sgt_Lemming night all, sleep time
15:32 yNos g'night
15:32 SparkyProjects 'night Lemming
15:33 yNos time to find some lunch
15:38 Sythen right, time to get my headbang on, and do cleaning, the metal way heheh
15:41 SparkyProjects Plenty of metal polish eh ?
15:41 Sythen fuck yeah! \m/
15:41 Seroster Lol
15:42 Seroster I found a pair of pliers in the garbage the other day
15:42 Seroster Rusty as hell
15:44 tesla4d I need to download that old Geek Group video about sirens, so I can clip out the bit about putting the car alarm on the inside and attach that to the email to my professor about why I'm not in class today.
15:45 tesla4d I've never been this knocked out by a cold before. The headache is of tectonic proportion.
15:58 CaptainNiobe|AFK 'night all
16:00 SparkyProjects 'night :)
16:02 Seroster .g second hand honda civic
16:02 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.autotrader.com/find/used-Honda-Civic-cars-for-sale.jsp
16:02 Seroster CaptainNiobe|AFK, Cya
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16:10 HoboEngineer Test
16:12 SparkyProjects it works :)
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16:17 angy Boo!
16:18 Seroster SparkyProjects,
16:18 Seroster I got a bunch of these: http://se.lgprodukter.se/PICTURE/1328-3-25-030.jpg
16:19 SparkyProjects Cool
16:19 SparkyProjects what size ?
16:19 Seroster So, grounding wire clamps
16:19 Seroster 6mm
16:19 Seroster A bit big
16:19 Seroster But the 4mm cost just as much
16:20 Seroster So just squishing the heck out of the copper, wont even bother to intertwine. The cable will happily handle 50amps anyway
16:20 SparkyProjects We used loads of those for attaching guy wires to aerial masts
16:21 Seroster Heh
16:21 Seroster Nice
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16:23 * Experimentonomen thinks abt making a quick n dirty single phase 0-1kHz VFD using an arduino and a mosfet fullbridge thing just for the heck of it
16:25 Experimentonomen but first i need to get an arduino, then i need to figure out how to make a ADC sample a 0-5V signal from a pot and control a sinewave pwm output for a 0-1kHz sine out
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16:27 HoboEngineer Why is everyone using arduinos?
16:27 Experimentonomen because analog opamp based sinewave oscillators suck
16:28 Experimentonomen and doing the pot input to pwm output in a arduino saves the work of building a class d amplifier to generate the pwm output
16:28 HoboEngineer Well I meant why not just use the avr without the aurdino boot loader
16:28 Experimentonomen and a arduino has the programmer built in so no external expensive programmer needed
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16:29 Experimentonomen yes there are cheap programmers too but their not supported by avrstudio and them freeware proggys that do support them suck
16:31 HoboEngineer I user avrdude to write the hex files from avrstudio using a serial single programmer
16:31 Experimentonomen and the arduino is designed for beginners like me, all i've done with a avr at this stage is blinking 8 leds in a sequence by just telling the abr which port to activate and when in a long list which meant i had no way of chanking the blink rate or anything
16:31 Experimentonomen next prollem is all i have is usb
16:32 HoboEngineer Ah I would say USB to serial but I tried that. Its a bad idea
16:33 Experimentonomen yeh they dont work, much like a usb to parallel port converter dont work for controlling the hd44780 lcd/vfd displays
16:33 Experimentonomen they only work for the intended purposes they were designed for
16:33 yNos and if you get a rbb kit from MD, they are only $13/per
16:34 yNos http://shop.moderndevice.com/products/rbbb-kit
16:34 Experimentonomen like allowing a serial mouse to be hooked to usb and such
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16:34 Experimentonomen and many of those cheap programmers kinda require u to have atleast some programming experience to be able to use them at all
16:35 Kafka how many people do you think are working on a More Ideal Amplifier?
16:35 Kafka I know it's a goal of mine, but
16:35 Kafka seems to not be a common thing
16:36 yNos more ideal amplifier?
16:36 Experimentonomen so an arduino is my best bet until i've gathered some knowlege and understaning in the C language and learned some basic programming
16:36 Kafka no amplifier that exists has the ideal characteristics of an amplifier
16:36 yNos if you find ideal transistors/resistors/capacitors.. i am sure it is possible...
16:36 AndChat- Well you can get closer but then the parts become more expensive
16:37 yNos but finding them is umm
16:37 Kafka AndChat-: yes, but closer than has been done is something I want to do
16:38 Kafka yNos: not as hard as it sounds, actually
16:39 Kafka well
16:39 Kafka nearly-ideal
16:39 HoboEngineer-Fou Also what type of amplifier?
16:39 Kafka nothing is ideal in practice
16:39 Kafka HoboEngineer-Fou: I'm most interested in opamps
16:39 Experimentonomen speaking of amplifiers, im also thinking about modifying an old boombox with a custom made amplifier module and a built in mp3 player
16:40 Kafka but differential amplifiers in general
16:41 HoboEngineer Well as far as Op Amps the only things you can really improve on are getting rid of input currents, offset biasing...
16:44 egrsteve fyi Arduino is C++ with a lot of libraries on top compiled with avr-gcc compiler
16:45 egrsteve they just pack it all up in any easy to use form
16:45 Kafka I don't really like arduino, honestly
16:45 Kafka it's nice to get people interested in embedded systems, but
16:45 Kafka I can't think of anything where you'd not be better suited by something else
16:45 angy arduino got the advantage to have a lot of pre-built lib
16:46 * wannabe1987 hugs angy
16:46 Experimentonomen the arduino is made for beginners so its understandable why seasoned avr users dont like it and consider it a toy
16:46 Kafka assuming you don't need to rely on being able to write your stuff in C++
16:47 Experimentonomen so pointing a beginner away from the arduino is about the worst thing u can do
16:47 egrsteve arduino is ment to be a learing platfom
16:48 angy-afk arduino is great for a lot of project, even production states one
16:48 SparkyProjects An electronics beginner should be using transistors so they get to know about how they work, then move onto IC's.
16:48 SparkyProjects As  far as i'm concerned an Arduino is more to do with computing.
16:48 egrsteve once you understand it you can go beyond  it write your own libraries (its a full AVR-gcc compiler) and make it do anythign you could do with an atmel 328
16:48 angy-afk if you can build you thing on it, you don't really have to bother creating your own emb platform
16:49 Experimentonomen i passed understanding how transistors and ic's works a long time ago
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16:49 Experimentonomen nowdays i build audio amplifiers from scratch class d included
16:50 egrsteve class D Solid state telsa coil anyone?
16:50 Kafka Experimentonomen: the best thing about making your own amplifiers is not paying hundreds of dollars more to drive your expensive headphones
16:51 Experimentonomen i have a homemade amplifier thats been plugged in and on 24/7 for a few months by now
16:51 Kafka looking at getting beyerdynamic DT880 600ohm soon, and of course i'm gonna build my own amp rather than drop $500 on one made by someone else
16:51 egrsteve ok, time to leave for class, ttyl
16:52 Experimentonomen http://experimentonomen.imgur.com/classabheadphoneamp <-- a headphone amp project i was working on for a while but nedver finished
16:53 Experimentonomen yes those heatsinks are brutally overkill for the power it put out
16:53 Experimentonomen but i dont really have anythinbg smaller
16:57 HoboEngineer Arduino Question: Is there an interrupt for ADC conversion complete? I know it exists in the AVR, but i've never seen it in Arduino
17:01 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.twitch.tv/tyger_wdr Live wow stream
17:03 * wannabe1987 pokes irc
17:15 obtuse aww man kafka, i love Beyerdynamic
17:15 obtuse i hae DT 770 Pro 80 ohm headphons
17:16 obtuse although right now i'm using Audio Technica ATH M50 headphones
17:17 * angy-afk hugs wannabe1987
17:17 wannabe1987 hi obtuse
17:17 wannabe1987 yay angy
17:18 obtuse hello
17:18 obtuse I just got my first pass arrangement of my song Blocks ... http://tindeck.com/listen/qigt
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17:19 obtuse HoboEngineer, there should be in the AVR datasheet somewhere
17:19 injektion|laptop I found an anwesome thrift store find today
17:19 obtuse oh, yea, i've never seen that in the arduino library
17:20 injektion|laptop It's a desktop with a BNC capture card
17:20 injektion|laptop Geovision GV-800
17:20 obtuse cool
17:21 injektion|laptop The video card is AGP and I see an SiS logo on it that cannot be good
17:23 Druidic_Rifleman tggmc1 any one there
17:24 injektion|laptop Fuck it is a SiS video card :(
17:25 injektion|laptop Would anyone happen to have the Geovision drivers?
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17:28 ajprog_laptop Druidic_Rifleman: noone is at the computer in mc
17:29 Druidic_Rifleman Any one going to the lab to the day ???
17:29 wannabe1987 no, theres noone at the lab today :P
17:30 ajprog_laptop I am at the lab (with a lot of other people) just not by that computer
17:31 Druidic_Rifleman Can someone Get a good photo of master control??
17:32 wannabe1987 y
17:32 ajprog_laptop why do you want a photo of master control?
17:33 angy-afk that remind me I still have to write down my last idea for you ajprog_laptop
17:34 ajprog_laptop I have a lot of other things on my plate so no rush
17:34 angy-afk great, I won't really have a chance before the 22nd, most probably before the beginning of october
17:35 Druidic_Rifleman I have a friend who i am trying to recruit who is an AV guy
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17:36 ajprog_laptop I think two weeks ago Chris did a captain blog up there
17:41 injektion|laptop I cannt download the software from geovision because the card does not have a serial number :(
17:51 Druidic_Rifleman The problem is the lab is a living organism
17:51 Druidic_Rifleman NOTHING will ever befinished cause every thing will eventually get an update
17:53 injektion|laptop Too bad the cafe's name isn't Ten Forward
18:10 wannabe1987 y
18:18 injektion|laptop It did come from a gas station
18:19 injektion|laptop Too bad most of the video clips from the cameras is corrupt :(
18:31 Sythen good evening all
18:31 angy-afk a cup of tea?
18:31 wannabe1987 afternoon sir
18:31 Sythen TEA!?
18:31 Sythen WHERE!?
18:32 angy-afk in front of my avalanche
18:32 Sythen GIMMIE!
18:32 angy-afk no!
18:33 angy-afk mine!
18:33 * Sythen runs for the tea
18:33 * angy-afk closes the door on Sythen
18:33 * Sythen boots the door in
18:33 Sythen GIMMIE THE TEA!
18:33 * angy-afk sharpens his scalpels
18:33 angy-afk no!
18:34 * Sythen starts throwing kittens at angy
18:34 angy kittttttttttttens!
18:34 * Sythen grabs the tea and legs it
18:36 * Sythen gives angry a kit-kat
18:37 wannabe1987 who is angry? :P
18:37 Sythen spelling fail on my part lol
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18:37 Sythen ive drank too much coke today
18:37 wannabe1987 i figured o.O
18:37 Sythen im bouncing in my seat heheh
18:37 wannabe1987 you're supposed to sniff coke, not drink it! :P
18:38 Sythen coke cola
18:38 wannabe1987 lol i  kno
18:38 angy お前を殺す!
18:38 Sythen ?
18:38 wannabe1987 squares?
18:39 Sythen japanease, or chinese text
18:39 angy damn, you're not utf-8 aware ><
18:39 angy it's japanese
18:40 wannabe1987 whats it jap for?
18:41 angy the fact that I'm going to kill you if you steal my tea
18:41 wannabe1987 http://i.imgur.com/8PAra.jpg
18:41 Sythen hehe, please, im british, i have more tea than you
18:41 wannabe1987 nice use of the periodic table
18:42 angy so don't steal _my_ tea
18:42 Sythen funny, but more of an insult
18:42 injektion|laptop Tea is still more popular then coffee in England?
18:42 wannabe1987 hey angy, when emphasizing something, we normally *bold* it not _underline_ it :P  or we italic it, but idk that thing....
18:43 angy let me go back in south-eastern asia, I'll have more tea
18:43 angy in the old world /italic/
18:43 wannabe1987 yes, taht
18:43 angy but I don't know if your client react
18:43 Sythen i will always have more muwhahahahhahahaa
18:44 angy let me buy a tea factory, we'll sort out after that :)
18:44 Sythen hehe
18:44 Sythen ill trade you for kittens and chocolate
18:45 angy depend on the chocolate :)
18:45 Sythen cadburys?
18:47 Sythen kit kats? ive got to send some to CaptainNiobe anyway
18:47 angy hum... you're trying to makes me consider migrating to the UK, right?
18:47 Sythen not really heheh
18:48 angy fear for your tea!
18:48 Sythen my tea is defended well
18:48 Sythen i shall see you on the battle feild heheh
18:48 angy you ought to retreat
18:48 Sythen heheh
18:48 angy I'll sent the lawyers first
18:48 Sythen never
18:49 angy the people that can bore you to death just by catching a glimpse
18:49 Sythen pfff, please, you underestimate me hehe
18:49 angy I don't underestimate the lawyers I have
18:49 injektion|laptop http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article5061465.ece
18:50 * wannabe1987 wonders why angy needs such fearsome lawyers
18:50 Sythen your lawyers have nothing on me
18:50 angy no need
18:50 angy wannabe1987: they can call you for roughly 4 hours to discuss a single coma in a document
18:50 wannabe1987 lol
18:50 Sythen hehe, good thing that i can hang up the phone
18:51 angy you can't when they are in the same room
18:51 angy you may try to hang them up, but that's don't really work
18:51 Sythen they have no reason to come to me, hehh
18:52 angy even better!
18:52 Sythen they well never come here ner ner ner ner
18:52 angy (they have no reason to come to be as well, part for harvesting dollars)
18:52 angy you're right, they don't like Brits
18:52 angy at least one of them hate you guys
18:53 Sythen great thing about being a brit, we dont care hehe
18:53 angy you're use to it :)
18:53 angy the whole world is mean to you
18:53 wannabe1987 injektion that was interesting
18:53 Sythen hey, atleast im not american
18:53 Sythen where the world hates you lol
18:54 angy let's for a group of non-americans :)
18:54 Sythen huh?
18:54 * angy is not american
18:54 Sythen where do you live?
18:54 angy I'm way closer to Brits than US
18:55 angy in north america ;)
18:55 Sythen do you hold an american passport?
18:55 angy nope
18:55 wannabe1987 hell no.  angy aitn american
18:55 Sythen shall we all agree that we all need to nuke france from orbit?
18:55 wannabe1987 aint*
18:55 angy americans tends to hate my home country(its)
18:56 wannabe1987 i stilld on't know why we hate france
18:56 wannabe1987 everytime i ask someone tehy get all technical and expect me to remember from history class :P
18:56 angy because we don't agree with US all the time
18:56 angy but we were the one to liberate USA!
18:57 angy I think that's what Toast is currently studying in history classes
18:57 wannabe1987 lol
18:57 angy and we tend to be mean to the world
18:57 angy escpecially to brits
18:58 injektion|laptop I don't hate the French I don't understand why they have to be so different
18:58 injektion|laptop Instead of using PAL the French designed SECAM
18:59 angy because PAL is 1961 and SECAM 1956?
19:00 wannabe1987 thats cuz you share a roadway (tunnel) with the brits, no?  :P
19:01 angy we also share electricity
19:02 angy but they have great fish & chips
19:02 injektion|laptop angy, Even more NTSC was 1953 for colour television
19:02 angy yep, but it was american
19:03 angy you know, time to travel accros the ocean
19:03 angy that put NTSC in europe close to 2987
19:03 angy give or take a few hundred years
19:04 angy but I think the Y/C encoding used in all these standards date back to something like 1932-1935
19:05 angy and it was *french*!
19:05 angy Georges Valensi, 1938
19:07 injektion|laptop lol
19:08 angy so it's because of French that color TV exists the way it does :)
19:08 angy or used to be
19:08 angy with digital signals, it's kind of not the same thing
19:11 injektion|laptop ATSC/DVB
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19:30 s2themach so, i just heard about this group at work, and i am very interested!  do you have any upcoming "public" days to come and check the place out?
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19:37 wannabe1987 s2themach where you located?
19:38 wannabe1987 hi Jimboy3625!  we were wondering if you and polishedball were coming back :P
19:39 wannabe1987 and s2themach, what do you mean public days?  you can stop by anytime to check it out, someone'll be there noon-8ish to give you a tour.
19:39 wannabe1987 fuck
19:41 tonsofpcs Science Friday (I think) on NPR had a piece about hackerspaces today.
19:41 Jimboy3625 Yes, It's been a while since I've been back here, Polishedball says he is afraid to come back after he almost got run off the highway by the blue geekgroup car...lol
19:41 wannabe1987 lol
19:41 wannabe1987 it wasn't anything personal....
19:41 tonsofpcs angy: what do the french have to do with color TV? huh?
19:42 Jimboy3625 lol yea, he is laughing about it. We still want to go down and visit the lab one of these days
19:42 tonsofpcs SEquential Color with (Avec) Memory is silly.
19:43 Jimboy3625 we've been busy organizing a laser enthusiasts meetup were going to host next may
19:43 tonsofpcs NTSC and PAL don't use "Y/C" in the way that SECAM did, they use mathematical transpositions of Luma and two difference signals applied to the phase of a sine wave.
19:43 tonsofpcs *color difference signals
19:43 tonsofpcs (well, NTSC-II and -III -- NTSC itself is a television system)
19:53 wannabe1987 jim - thats cool.  where you gonna host it?
19:54 Jimboy3625 we're thinking at an old theater in lowell called Larkin's Other Place, its big and cheap
19:54 Jimboy3625 perfect place to shoot lasers all over the place
19:55 Jimboy3625 gotta run tho, time to go home... take it easy
19:56 wannabe1987 ok
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19:57 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell s2themach, what do you mean public days?  you can stop by anytime to check it out, someone'll be there noon-8ish to give you a tour.
19:57 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when s2themach is around.
19:57 wannabe1987 thanks
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20:20 tlockley afternoon everybody
20:21 Sythen hey tlockley
20:21 tlockley hey there Sythen
20:22 tlockley up to anything interesting today?
20:22 Sythen not that i can see to be honest
20:22 tlockley watching the stream?
20:22 Sythen watching star trek
20:23 tlockley ah, which series. not that i know much star trek
20:23 Sythen voyager
20:23 tlockley cool, cool
20:23 Sythen in the process of *obtaining* sg-1
20:23 tlockley all or specific season?
20:23 Sythen all
20:24 tlockley very nice
20:24 tlockley you ever watch Eureka on SciFi?
20:24 Sythen negative, i dont own a tv
20:24 tlockley netflix?
20:25 Sythen we dont have netflix here
20:25 tlockley where you from?
20:25 Sythen england
20:25 tlockley ah. well i recomend atleast checking out the pilot for a show called Eureka...
20:25 Sythen ill have a mooch sometime soon
20:26 tlockley its a sort of adventrue a day kinda show, but ther is an overarching plot line
20:26 Sythen ive got to finish *obtaining* sg-1, then i need to *obtain* my gundam series again
20:26 tlockley which gundam? there are so manny
20:26 Sythen the only 2 im missing now is wing, and a decent copy of 00
20:27 tlockley nice
20:27 Sythen seed and seed destiny do not have a place in my collection
20:27 tlockley my first gundam series was Wing
20:27 Sythen my first was mobile suite gundam
20:27 tlockley nice
20:28 wannabe1987 hi tlockley
20:28 tlockley hey wannabe1987
20:30 tlockley ajprog_laptop: how did the next set of HDDs work out?
20:32 ajprog_laptop 6 out of 9, and one of the sleds is missing the power connector
20:32 tlockley aw shit
20:33 Sythen should be easy enough to fix the sled
20:33 tlockley yah, just hack up a dead PSU and use one of the molexes from there
20:33 Sythen yup
20:34 tlockley but were olny 6 out of the 9 working even with the busted sled?
20:34 Sythen were the discs completely dead? or were the still spinning up?
20:35 tlockley well I am not toally suprised some were dead
20:35 tlockley but 3 out of 9 is kinda bad
20:35 tlockley the last pile was 2 out of 9 doa
20:35 Sythen no spin up at all?
20:35 tlockley and considering that you really cant find PATA anymore that really sucks
20:37 tlockley the best i can find on newegg is 250GB
20:37 tlockley correction 350
20:39 tlockley yah all the standard sellers dont offer bigger than 350s now
20:40 Sythen i can get 500gb discs
20:40 Sythen but there rather exspencive
20:40 tlockley yah. even WD direct doesent sell 500GB anymore
20:41 Sythen the 500gb drives have 128bit aes encryption on em
20:41 tlockley o_O
20:41 Sythen a lil bit pointless for a dump station really
20:41 tlockley totally
20:42 Sythen well, ive not seen inside one of those mac disc arrays
20:42 tlockley ist just a fancy looking dual controller 3u setup
20:42 tlockley its not really extra special apple shit besides the sleds
20:43 Sythen couldnt it be retri fitted with some bits?
20:43 tlockley like a PATA to sata conversion?
20:43 Sythen possibly
20:44 Sythen ive done more difficult retri fits
20:44 Sythen retro*
20:44 tlockley i dont know. you may need to come up with a new rom for the RAID controllers
20:44 Sythen gimmie a dremel and some time, ill come up with something lol
20:44 tlockley but there are plenty of connectos to use on the existing sleds as they are designed for PATA
20:44 Sythen easy enough to make some sata ones
20:45 tlockley just a cursory look at google reveals that some people are tryin sata to pata converter chips to stick with the native PATA interface on the RAID controller
20:45 Sythen a freind of mine built a sata array out of a large steel lunch box
20:46 Sythen what i would do personnally, is gut the drive array, retro fit it to take sata, and rig it up to a computer
20:47 Sythen and power the array individually
20:47 tlockley meh, the issue you will find is that the raid controllers are going to be the bigest problem
20:48 tlockley the whole point is that it is a packaged system that fits on a standard rack
20:48 tlockley not some silly gheto thingy
20:48 Sythen heh, easy enough to work within those bounds, and make it look professional
20:49 tlockley well I am checking out the idea of using sata bridges and 2.5in "server drives"
20:49 Sythen no point using "server drives"
20:49 Sythen just used off the shelf laptop hdds
20:50 tlockley well i am just doing some research ATM
20:50 tlockley but I think the best idea moving forward is using sata bridges and using the TM1 to mass produce 2.5in carries to adapt to 3.5in
20:51 Sythen you could do
20:51 tlockley because even if you convert all the carriers to accpe 3.5in sata you still had to redo the raid controller which is going to be the most expensive part
20:51 Sythen not really
20:52 Sythen the way i saw it in mind, is that you pass on the drive controls to a seperate system using esata ports
20:52 Sythen the array is powered seperatly, but controlled from a sperate system
20:53 Sythen hell, if theres enough room, gut it, and fit a mini itx system within the chassis
20:54 tlockley but you are missing that fact that the system itself is is perfect working order there is just a lack of huge drives available for it
20:54 tlockley there is no reason to completely redo what already works
20:55 Sythen true
20:55 Sythen i guess my stigma against apple hardware makes things a lil cloudy heh
20:56 Druidic_Rifleman How badly could i hurt my self with almost 4 kilograms of potasium?
20:56 tlockley but that is the thing, its not apple HW. the only thing special apple put in this is the ability to monitor power-on time for individual drives
20:56 tlockley besides that it is a generic RAID unit
20:56 Sythen ok, i dont all that much about that system
20:56 tlockley that accepts PATA drives upto 1TB per drive
20:56 Sythen how do the interals work? can you give me sone links?
20:57 tlockley i dont have links as no one really has taken theirs apart because they all still work for the most part
20:57 tlockley but it works just like any raid array ever built does, it just has a custom backplane connecotr
20:57 Sythen okie doke, ill have to do some googling
20:58 tlockley the drive data is connected en-masse to the raid controller and the two PSUs provide power
20:59 Sythen is the raid controller on a card, or is it intergrated into a mianboard or some kind?
20:59 tlockley there are two replaceable raid controllers each handles its own 7drive array
20:59 tlockley so upper handles 1-7 and lower handles 8-14
20:59 Sythen right on
20:59 Sythen are those on a pci interface?
21:00 tlockley no, they use MOLEX high dnesity backplane connectors and the rad controller communicates to the computer of network over fibrechannel
21:00 tlockley the unit is designed with SAN dn iscsi in mind
21:00 tlockley *and
21:00 Sythen right on
21:00 tlockley that is why I dont want to just gut the thing
21:01 tlockley because you could get a fibrechannel switch/router and FC cards for all of AV and then do SAN and iSCSI
21:01 Sythen ill have to do some reading
21:02 Sythen mainly for my obsession on hardware heheh
21:02 tlockley its a very intelligently designed system, its just that its old
21:02 tlockley but those who bother to maintain them have had them for years
21:03 Sythen i guess i like my hardware in a modualler state, heh, im a strange one
21:03 tlockley we all are
21:05 Sythen i need to get myself a new camera, i need to start making content again
21:05 tlockley vid or still?
21:06 Sythen video
21:06 tlockley ah, not really my expertiese anymore
21:06 Sythen have you heard of bastard sons of dialup?
21:06 tlockley no
21:06 Sythen tis an open source tech show
21:07 Sythen were gonna start ramping up for content so we can push some new episodes
21:07 tlockley cool
21:07 SparkyProjects Sythen Depending on price and quality you want, take a look at the canon Legria series, i have the legria FS37
21:07 tlockley well like i said I am not good with video camera recomendations, but come to me if you want to get some digital still stuff. ill point you in the right direction
21:08 Sythen ill take a look in a few weeks
21:08 Sythen im putting together a series of segments on htpcs
21:08 Sythen hardware and software
21:08 Sythen with a lil bit of a history lesson too
21:09 Sythen so all the theories behind it, and i might include some info on home automation
21:09 Sythen being dhti certified, it should be no trouble
21:10 Sythen dhti = digital home technology intergrator
21:11 tlockley whats your prefered HA system?
21:12 Sythen x10 is good for retro fitting exsisting homes
21:13 Sythen but can be a lil bit of a bugger in areas that have line filteds, strong radio interfearence, and alot fo 2.4ghz activity
21:13 tlockley if you were doing a spec or new house?
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21:15 Sythen theres a system that used cat5e for audio, visual, and control, but its been awhile since i used it, i cant remember the name of it for crap hehe
21:16 Sythen we tend to bump up the cable to cat6 for better sheilding
21:16 tlockley ah, here in the us there are a few. the primary ones are Nuvo and Colorado vNet
21:16 tlockley though crestron is starting to play nice with cat5e/6
21:16 tlockley oh and niles
21:17 Sythen i think it was called habiteq
21:17 Sythen i think its a ge system
21:17 tlockley yah, interesting
21:17 tlockley it doesent look terribly extensible
21:17 Sythen i have a few bits some systems in storage, including a gsm modual heeh
21:18 Sythen yeah, it is, but if your looking at a home with that sort of system, i dont think your going to worry about how much it costs heheh
21:18 Sythen we also made a ghetto system that used a linksys slug and wifi
21:19 tlockley here in the states, the gold standard is called Crestron
21:19 tlockley they have been around since the beginning basically
21:19 tlockley its kinda like the arduino of home automation
21:19 Sythen the name sounds fimilar, but i cant cast any memories into it
21:20 tlockley well the systems that i have worked on recently are very advanced
21:20 Sythen nice
21:20 tlockley like you can tie the system into a univerdal media server and route AV to basically any endpoint in a house
21:20 Sythen hell, ive seen some systems that have controls for cirtians lol
21:20 Sythen yup
21:21 tlockley plus there are modules to interfaces with just about any other system separate or not
21:21 Sythen im still debating including stuff of home automation, cause it might be a little over the bounds of the subject
21:21 tlockley like HVAC, blinds, there is even a univesal contacter system so you can do custom integrations
21:21 Sythen yup
21:21 Sythen a system ive seen uses rj45 connectors
21:22 tlockley its actually 8P8C
21:22 tlockley rj45 is a misnomer
21:22 Sythen yup
21:22 Sythen i just call it rj45
21:22 tlockley as a real rj45 is not compatable with your standard 8p8c gear
21:22 tlockley yah, its just a pet peeve
21:22 Sythen yeah hehe
21:23 tlockley and it can really confuse the hell out of oldschool telco guys
21:23 tlockley but, i have to go do a job real quick. bbl
21:23 Sythen kk
21:23 Sythen have fun
21:31 wannabe1987 hello?
21:35 Druidic_Rifleman hey
21:38 wannabe1987 sup
21:42 Druidic_Rifleman not much
21:49 angy doh! I fall asleep for like 2h
21:49 wannabe1987 i want a nap....
21:49 angy and I'm cold
21:58 * wannabe1987 hugs angy to warm him up
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22:22 wannabe1987 angy!!!!
22:22 angy wannabe1987!
22:22 eadthem so what would be the best thing to encapsulate a digital temprature sensor in
22:22 angy a toast?
22:22 eadthem i was thinking epoxy     it has to be food safe up to the boling point of water
22:23 eadthem http://www.maxim-ic.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/5730 thats what im planning on using
22:24 angy how embed you want it? and how food safe?
22:24 eadthem just encased
22:25 eadthem able to put it in hot or up to boiling water
22:25 Sythen mmmm, chicken soup and toast
22:25 Sythen bostin!
22:25 angy I can't remember what we used to do it
22:25 eadthem but not water that will directly contact food
22:25 eadthem ie  Sous Vide
22:25 angy boiling water is not that hot, so you can use quite everything you have handy
22:25 eadthem i guess my real question is     is epoxy when cured food safe
22:25 angy vacuum cooking profiling?
22:26 eadthem i mean with the BPA and all
22:26 angy it depend on the epoxy you choose
22:27 angy you may want to go see 20-3062FDA
22:27 angy I can't remember off hand its characteristics when cured, but I think it's quite close
22:29 eadthem FDA approved
22:29 angy urethane may be a good choice as well
22:29 eadthem only thing is it dosent say if its ok at a given temp
22:29 angy I have the complete data sheet, somewhere
22:31 angy I think I can dig up a urethane that can be safe up to 95C (200F), but that will be too close for you?
22:31 eadthem its acceptable
22:31 eadthem but i wanted to be good to 225 for headroom
22:32 angy what will be the process max temperature?
22:32 angy sustained or not
22:32 eadthem my bigist fear is  leaching chemcicals  and not adhearing to the wire
22:32 eadthem sustaned
22:32 eadthem err srry
22:32 eadthem 160F typicaly
22:32 eadthem but i want to be flexable enuff to handle up to 180F witch i doubt ile ever use
22:33 angy pasteurization process though
22:33 eadthem ususaly 131F to 140F
22:33 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
22:33 eadthem almost alwase
22:33 angy that's definitly low
22:33 angy TOAST!
22:33 * angy hugs Toastdude
22:33 Toastdude ANGY!
22:33 wannabe1987 OMG TOAST!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:33 * Toastdude hugs angy
22:33 Toastdude wannabe1987!!!!!!!!!!!
22:34 wannabe1987 sup?
22:34 angy the non adhesion is mostly not a problem I think, it depend on how you want to coat the sensor
22:34 angy like just film coating or having something like a casting around it
22:34 Toastdude Just got back from a weird day... 18 yo were chasing us
22:34 wannabe1987 why
22:34 Toastdude Cause they're weird...
22:35 wannabe1987 strange
22:36 Toastdude And cause they are not very good friends... A kid in our grade picked a fight with one of my friends at the park, so the person called a bunch a 18 yo and started a very slow chase...
22:37 angy nuke them?
22:37 angy Sythen: TEA TIME!
22:38 Sythen WOOT!
22:38 angy :)
22:38 Toastdude Hmm... good idea... Except we live within a mile of them
22:38 angy precision nuke :p
22:38 Sythen i need snuggles and tea hehe
22:38 Toastdude And a forse field
22:39 angy you'll have scones
22:39 Toastdude *force
22:41 wannabe1987 so whats everyone doing tonight?
22:41 angy chirurgical nuke
22:41 Sythen watching star trek
22:42 angy so bored that I'm cleaning up at home
22:43 Sythen im cleaning too
22:44 angy so you do other things than drinking tea? :p
22:44 Sythen oh yes heheh]
22:44 Sythen i work, i work out, i clean, i cook
22:44 wannabe1987 wait...men cook? :P
22:45 angy perfect gentleman
22:45 Sythen i do
22:45 wannabe1987 good!~
22:45 wannabe1987 do you cook well tho
22:45 Sythen i can also wash clothes, sow, knit, and iron too
22:45 Sythen i do
22:45 wannabe1987 i'm knitting ATM .......
22:45 Sythen nah, i was knitting earlier tho
22:45 SparkyProjects wannabe, what's the percentage of men Vs women chef's ? :D
22:46 angy can you wash the dishes? :)
22:46 Sythen yup
22:46 angy Can I have a clone of you?
22:46 Sythen hehe
22:46 wannabe1987 i strangely enjoy washing dishes..........
22:47 Sythen i enjoy it too
22:47 angy that's the part I quite don't like, it takes time that I tend not to have
22:47 Sythen and, i can actually stay awake after sex heheh
22:48 wannabe1987 Sythen i wouldn't know.......
22:48 * wannabe1987 is virgin.....
22:48 Sythen cool
22:49 wannabe1987 anything else has to be said in tgg_NSFW
22:49 Sythen i have no intentions on going any further than that
22:49 wannabe1987 lol  ok
22:50 angy don't really need the details, at least for me
22:50 wannabe1987 no, i meant on this topic :P
22:50 angy I won't start on that topic
22:51 * wannabe1987 digs into bin of topics to discuss
22:52 angy let's discuss curvation of the temporo-spatial spinal node when bending
22:52 angy or not
22:52 wannabe1987 no
22:53 Sythen i need to spend some time on my hait
22:53 Sythen hair*
22:53 Sythen i needs recoloring again
22:53 angy pink! go for pink!
22:53 angy or electric blue
22:53 Sythen pink wont take to my hair
22:54 angy first, bleach, then go to pool
22:54 Sythen i go red, it turns my hair and highlights my natural oburn lowlights
22:54 angy pink is close to red ;)
22:55 Sythen i dont like pink anyway, its too bright
22:55 angy bright yellow ˆ^
22:55 Sythen nope
22:55 angy bold black
22:55 Sythen my hair is black anyway
22:55 angy damn
22:56 Sythen https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Eux_UHHXcQScKmfUWalUq1NoVgruNkrXGQ-ord9QbKE?feat=directlink
22:56 Sythen thats what it looks like not long after
22:56 angy (you can't trust anything I say on color btw)
22:57 Sythen heh, my eyes are pretty much perfect
22:57 Ponko joined #thegeekgroup
22:57 angy Ponkyyyy!
22:57 angy Tea time
22:58 Ponko yep
22:58 angy India black? two sugars, milk?
22:58 Ponko nah PG tpped
22:59 angy so no tea for you tonight
22:59 Sythen oooooo pukka
22:59 Ponko i fancy a pie now
22:59 angy I have one in the oven :)
22:59 angy I won't eat it, but I made it
22:59 Sythen heheh, chippy ftw
23:00 Ponko its too bleeding late
23:00 Ponko but inded
23:00 wannabe1987 if you wont eat it who will?
23:00 Sythen we have pukka pies here, there tasty!
23:00 angy friends tomorrow night
23:00 Ponko Red Dwarf FTW
23:00 Sythen curry and larger night?
23:01 angy I really hate sugar-things
23:02 Ponko ooo i fancy a pint
23:02 angy if there is something left, I'll mail it to Ponk
23:02 Ponko but i'm T-Total for this month
23:02 Ponko lol
23:03 Sythen i dont drink larger anymore
23:03 angy larger or lager?
23:03 angy you eat larger lager :p
23:03 angy s/eat/drink/
23:03 Sythen lol
23:03 Ponko lol
23:03 angy you eat Guiness
23:03 Ponko larger lager is a Pitcher right?
23:03 Ponko lol
23:04 Sythen i only drink JD these days
23:04 angy we had a 140oz pitcher last night
23:04 Sythen that all?
23:04 Ponko fliping JD
23:04 angy with lots of shooters, was shooter night where we were
23:05 Ponko my ex is from the state of Jim Beam
23:05 Sythen tis a shame really that you could class american beer as beer
23:05 angy I don't really like bourbons/whiskies usually
23:06 Sythen its the same class as australian beer
23:06 Sythen e.g. piss
23:06 angy I did not say that was american beer :)
23:06 Sythen what beer was it?
23:06 angy microbrew in quebec
23:06 Sythen ahhh, so not crap beer then
23:06 angy I don't drink beer that are just colored wee
23:07 Ponko how about some Glenturret Whiskey
23:07 Ponko from 1965 cask
23:07 angy but some in a box and send it to me
23:07 Ponko a large bottle only costs £25K
23:07 Ponko lol
23:07 angy or wait til october that I'll be in UK
23:08 Ponko go to the famous grouse tour in glenturret
23:08 Sythen i have a 25 year old bottle sat in my drinks cabinet
23:08 Ponko when was it bottled?
23:08 Sythen it only comes out when im courting a lady heh
23:08 Ponko lol
23:08 Ponko when was it bottled?
23:08 Sythen 1985
23:09 wannabe1987 PONKO!
23:09 Ponko so its possibly only a 10 year
23:09 angy so she is the one that called asleep _after_ :p
23:09 Ponko it doesn't age in the bottle only in the cash
23:09 Ponko cask*
23:10 Sythen still tastes good
23:10 angy it ages with you cash :p
23:10 Sythen its all good
23:10 Ponko shut it
23:10 wannabe1987 i want cash!
23:10 Ponko have some Jonny Cash
23:10 Sythen nah mate, only get that after a vindaloo
23:10 wannabe1987 nah
23:11 wannabe1987 he's good, but i can't buy things with him
23:11 angy try to trade
23:11 wannabe1987 actually theres a coffee shop opening up here in gr that'll trade you coffee
23:12 wannabe1987 for other "things"
23:12 wannabe1987 like cookies!
23:12 Ponko ahh
23:12 Ponko i love cookies
23:13 angy .cookie Ponko
23:13 BotSteve Here you go, Ponko, I baked you an almond cookie!
23:13 Ponko mmm thanks botsteve
23:13 angy I love baking cookies
23:13 angy but as I bake them for me, there are nearly sugar free, so no one likes them
23:14 wannabe1987 o.O
23:14 wannabe1987 i'll give them my cookies
23:14 wannabe1987 why do you need them sugar free?
23:14 angy I hate eating sugarish food
23:14 Ponko fair enough
23:15 angy I dislike sugar taste
23:15 wannabe1987 ...
23:16 angy that's because I'm weird
23:19 angy and I killed the cant again
23:21 * angy is going to make tea
23:22 angy I think I'm going to cook curry tonight
23:24 Ponko some people say
23:24 Ponko hello i'm Victor Kiam
23:24 Ponko well only Victor Kiam really
23:27 Seroster http://www.wimp.com/recordsflood/ 6:25 server room
23:31 angy TOAST!
23:31 Toastdude ANGY!
23:31 angy a plate of punjab masala?
23:37 Ponko wtfudge
23:39 angy you want fudge in your tea?
23:39 Ponko -_- no
23:40 * Ponko slaps angy to calm him down
23:40 * angy bites Ponko
23:40 * Ponko snarls and turns into a tiger then mauls angy
23:41 Seroster SparkyProjects?
23:41 * angy turns into reinforced steel
23:41 Ponko to late
23:41 angy damn!
23:42 * angy splashes his tea on Ponko
23:42 Seroster How do I charge a ni-mh battery pack without the proper charger? The 12volts it wants and low amperage, positive to positive, negative to negative?
23:42 Ponko thats cold
23:42 angy that's why I did not drink it
23:42 Ponko ok
23:42 Ponko lol
23:44 angy I could have microwaved it, but I don't like the idea
23:44 Ponko nah not a good idea
23:45 angy I prefer brewing a new cup
23:47 Ponko me too
23:50 Seroster I just saw a guy refer to Nicola Tesla as "Inventor and genious"
23:51 Seroster Forgot "Insane maniac" but sure.
23:54 angy .cookie Ponko
23:54 BotSteve Here you go, Ponko, I baked you a kleicha cookie!
23:54 Ponko hmm
23:56 angy we need a .tea command
23:57 Seroster cya
23:57 wannabe1987 angy make one!
23:57 angy I don't do python :)
23:57 tesla4d joined #thegeekgroup
23:58 angy but I can fork the cookie into tea
23:58 wannabe1987 tesla4d! hi :P
23:58 Toastdude I can do it for you angy
23:58 angy is it a temporal or a topological 4th dimension?
23:58 angy Yey! Great Toast! :)
23:59 tesla4d I have an impressive fever.
23:59 angy passed 104 yet?
23:59 tesla4d 103.2, or 39.5 for the people from smart areas of the globe.

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