Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-09-17

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00:00 tesla4d I wish I knew what the exact danger number was. >.> Because I'm getting close.
00:00 angy 104
00:00 angy depend on youy age though
00:01 angy 104 is for small children, for adults it's 40-42 depending on the condition
00:01 tesla4d 24
00:01 tesla4d I think it's just flu, honestly.
00:02 angy I'd say 41.5-42 if you were in prior good health
00:03 angy that is considered the morbidity threshold
00:03 angy if you pass 40-40.5, go to the nearest hospital to be sure
00:03 tesla4d Yeah.
00:04 angy <that was today health & safety point>
00:04 tesla4d I like how 40 C is a nice, even number in Fahrenheit: 104
00:04 tesla4d Haven't figured out how to make the fancy Braun ear thermometer switch to C.
00:04 angy :)
00:04 tesla4d Those crazy Germans.
00:05 angy Deutsch are not crazy!
00:06 tesla4d Of course they are! That's why I love them so much.
00:07 angy that's better :)
00:07 tesla4d I'm having a friend of mine from another IRC network send me a history book in his native language.
00:07 tesla4d It's going to be awesome.
00:07 angy es wird
00:08 tesla4d And hopefully I'll be able to read it by the time it gets here... but that seems a little unlikely.
00:08 angy did he choose super slow found fret?
00:09 tesla4d No, he hasn't sent it yet, apparently. I still don't know what to send him in return.
00:09 tesla4d Maybe one of Rush Limbagh's books.
00:09 tesla4d But I don't think he'd read it then. Terrifying reading isn't the best reading.
00:09 angy an history book :)
00:09 tesla4d Yeah.
00:10 tesla4d Maybe I'll send a Kansas History book, since I grew up there, even if I'm somewhere else now.
00:10 tesla4d Tell him about John Brown, the crazy abolitionist who my boyfriend is a descendent of.
00:10 angy :)
00:12 Toastdude Hi tesla4d
00:12 tesla4d Hello.
00:13 angy .c 66 f to c
00:13 BotSteve 18.8888889 degrees Celsius
00:13 angy that's cold!
00:14 tesla4d It's not so bad. I can do that in a t-shirt and shorts, as long as I don't have a fever.
00:14 angy maybe that's why you have now a fever
00:14 tesla4d I don't think so.
00:14 tesla4d Paul caught this first and living together means it's nearly inevitable that it'll go around.
00:15 tesla4d Also, he hates the cold.
00:17 SparkyProjects It's currently 17.5C in my living room, and i don't feel cold, i generally don't put the heating on till it drops below about 16
00:17 tesla4d FFFFF.
00:17 wannabe1987 i hate the coldddd
00:17 wannabe1987 and i live in MI
00:18 SparkyProjects People get too used to central heating, that's why a lot get colds
00:19 tesla4d I remember the time that I first had control of a thermostat. I went to Washington, DC for the NEDC nationals, and shared a room with a couple of teammates. We immediately agreed to set the thermostat as low as it could go, and it was AWESOME.
00:19 SparkyProjects A job i used to do when i was 16 was basically in front of an oven all day, then we went outside for lunch during the summer, i was always getting a cold
00:19 angy I used to work in a foundry
00:20 SparkyProjects I was an Impregnator :D
00:20 angy :)
00:20 SparkyProjects That's actually a transformer making process (varnishing etc)
00:20 tesla4d Ooooh. I can't do industrial jobs.
00:21 wannabe1987 i used to work doing screen printing in summer
00:21 tesla4d Not enough stimulation for my mind.
00:21 angy try being an engineer in a foundry
00:21 tesla4d That's why I'm in classes for an Engineering degree.
00:21 angy you'll have plenty of stimulation
00:21 tesla4d Ninja'd
00:21 SparkyProjects That's why i left within 9 months, plus i kept getting false promises
00:22 tesla4d I worked as a "Quality Assurance" guy for a subsidiary of Keiper.
00:23 tesla4d The job consisted of dumping bins full of gears onto a white table, marking the ones that were to spec and throwing the bad ones in the recycling bin. For 8 hours a day.
00:24 angy I did the thing above, getting the bin and try to improve the manufacturing process to get rid of quality assurance persons
00:24 tesla4d I've vowed never to work in light industrial again. I'd rather be a road worker, if it came to that.
00:25 angy being an engineer is kind of a complete other world
00:25 angy you're way better once you have really done the jobs under you, but it's very rare to find that
00:26 tesla4d Yeah, I really want to take courses in machining. I understand that's not "normal" for Engineers in the US, but it's ridiculous to have engineers designing things that they can't build/repair.
00:27 angy not unsual
00:27 angy that's why a lot of corp have another layer between design and manufacturing
00:27 angy lots of technician that makes the design do-able
00:29 tesla4d I don't get that, honestly.
00:29 angy it's a trade I see  lot in northern america
00:29 angy over-specialization
00:30 wannabe1987 yeah....
00:32 SparkyProjects I think even with CNC, it's possible to get a person who knows how to use a lathe (for example) to do a first piece by hand and let the computer record their movements, then subsequent pieces are produced by the machine.
00:32 angy it's totally doable
00:32 wannabe1987 i put on my old glasses and my depth perception is off....whoa
00:32 angy but is the first piece perfect?
00:32 angy if it has any kind of imperfection, they will be in the whole lot
00:33 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, AFAIK the HAAS machines that TGG has are capable of doing learn and repeat mode
00:34 Sgt_Lemming i.e. you do one, the machine learns it, optimises it and then does it repeatably again
00:34 angy you got quite a lot of modes to do that kind of things
00:34 tesla4d Heh. Not sure if relevant: http://imgur.com/gallery/ce4NI
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00:34 Ponko hmmmm
00:35 Sgt_Lemming lol
00:35 SuperToast Hi Sgt_Lamming
00:35 Sgt_Lemming lamming?
00:35 SuperToast :|
00:35 SparkyProjects I know the TL1 is capable of manual operation, so i would assume it can copy.
00:35 SparkyProjects Though i'm guessing the other 2 you need to use the controls to manually move the heads, unlike the lathe where you have real handles.
00:35 SuperToast Hi Sgt_Lemming
00:35 SuperToast :P
00:35 angy it's quite hard to do manual on that kind of CNC
00:35 Ponko what times had by all
00:36 angy but with other CNC equipment, you can actually use a full manual lathe connected to the CNC to export your tool path
00:36 Sgt_Lemming no angy
00:36 angy Yes you can Sgt_Lemming
00:36 Sgt_Lemming most CNC equipment uses Steppers and dead reckoning to control it
00:37 angy not really
00:37 angy that's crap CNC
00:37 angy high end CNC use optical scales and tool draft
00:37 Sgt_Lemming high end use
00:37 Sgt_Lemming most machines are not end
00:37 Sgt_Lemming -use+yes
00:38 Sgt_Lemming gah
00:38 Sgt_Lemming tired
00:38 wannabe1987 lol
00:38 wannabe1987 sleep?
00:38 angy we see that :)
00:39 angy but the particular machine we used to do manual working was a full very old Ernault-Somua precision lathe
00:39 angy coupled with full optical scales, connected to a NUM controller on the CNC lathe
00:39 angy but, again, NUM controller are not the thing you cross everyday for CNC
00:39 Sgt_Lemming most cnc machines, do not use any form of feedback from the motors, they yse VERY powerful steppers and dead reckoning
00:40 SparkyProjects When chris first showed off the TL1 he used the manual handles showing that it can also be used by a traditional lathe worker, i would assume the computer can read the sensors and know where it is and record the movements.
00:40 Sgt_Lemming some machines can do it, but most can't in my experience
00:40 Sgt_Lemming yeah
00:40 Sgt_Lemming the TL1 and TM1 can
00:40 angy yes
00:40 angy but it's not very practical for precision work
00:41 angy if you don't want precision, you can go for it
00:41 angy but if you need 1/100 mm, you can't do that
00:41 Sgt_Lemming err, 1/100 is easy by hand, 1/1000 is not
00:41 angy 1/100 is easy by hand, on a manual lathe
00:41 angy did you ever tried it on a CNC?
00:41 angy using manual commands, not the CNC
00:42 angy and I think you can't go for 1/1000 using TL1/TM1
00:43 tesla4d I think this is a question for Moose.
00:43 SparkyProjects angy, the TL1 is basically the same as a manual lathe, but with a computer.
00:43 SparkyProjects So if a conventional lathe operator can get that level of precision, the computer can copy it.
00:43 SparkyProjects And there are some very skilled lathe operators out there, they often make tiny engines for models they make
00:43 angy not at all!
00:44 angy or I used deformed lathes
00:44 angy there a no verniers scales on it
00:44 angy you have to depend on the servo feedback
00:44 Sgt_Lemming angy, I've used a 50 year old lathe and been able to get repeatable 1/1000mm accuracy
00:45 Sgt_Lemming because the lathe was designed for it
00:45 angy I saw lathe that can go way beyond that
00:47 angy but usually, using that particular setup, the precision asked was for 3/1000
00:48 angy so needing way more precise machines and tooling
00:49 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT4G-t4I-1c at 2 minutes
00:49 angy I'll ask moose for the precision of the haas next time I'll see her
00:50 SparkyProjects angy, also ask her about manual operation and copying a manual operator
00:50 angy that what I saw saying, no verniers scales
00:50 angy that it can do
00:50 angy or it's a very crappy CNC
00:51 angy I think all CNC lathes can do that if you can access the manual controls
00:51 Sgt_Lemming angy, by manual controls do you mean jogging the axes with buttons, or hand wheels?
00:51 angy hand wheels
00:51 angy if you use the CNC to move, it's not a manual control
00:52 angy like in a Saphir lathe, you can't use manual controls either than playing with the CNC
00:52 Sgt_Lemming most cnc lathes, do not have hand wheels, even manual ones that have been converted to cnc tend to not have hand wheels
00:52 angy I quite never saw manual converted to CNC
00:53 Sgt_Lemming it requires extra feedback which most cnc do not have to allow a cnc lathe to learn from a manual input
00:53 Sgt_Lemming angy, then you haven't looked very hard
00:53 angy not really
00:53 angy if we needed a CNC< we bought a CNC
00:53 Sgt_Lemming there are thousands, literally thousands of kits around to convert manual lathes to cnc
00:53 angy not convert a perfectly fine manual
00:53 Sgt_Lemming cnc zone forum has thousands of conversions
00:54 Sgt_Lemming yes, that is your work or whatever, most people can't afford that
00:54 Sgt_Lemming a manual lathe converted to CNC is a lot more common than a purpose built CNC lathe
00:54 angy in fact, it greatly depend on how you say it
00:55 angy can it interpret G code?
00:55 angy or is it just automated axes
00:56 Sgt_Lemming interpreting GCODE is not the definition of CNC
00:57 Sgt_Lemming if it has computer controlled axes, then it's CNC
00:57 angy computer calculater command...
00:57 Sgt_Lemming regardless of the coding system used
01:00 angy so I have seen quite a lot of NC lathe
01:02 SparkyProjects NC lathes have been around since the 40's, though they used paper tape.
01:02 SparkyProjects Just been reading the wiki article
01:03 angy We had a GSP that uses perforated cards to read the program
01:03 angy that was lot of fun
01:03 angy even though no-one was able to punch card for it
01:04 * wannabe1987 pokes irc.
01:05 wannabe1987 its all techie talk :P so i'll just observe from here
01:05 * wannabe1987 sits in corner
01:06 angy lathe wise, I'm use to that kind of machines http://sonemi.com/photos/11515864681.jpg
01:07 ajprog_laptop is that a cnc?
01:07 angy nop
01:07 angy fully manual
01:07 angy CNC wise it looks like that
01:07 angy http://www.besselle.fr/besselle/Usinage_files/IMGP0280.jpg
01:08 ajprog_laptop I used a manual one in wood shop in HS
01:08 angy I love manual carving
01:09 * tesla4d wishes that zero nicotine E-juice was actually healthy.
01:13 SparkyProjects Why shouldn't it be ?
01:14 SparkyProjects You're only taking in vapour, no different to a smoke machine in a disco
01:14 tesla4d Well, you're still getting glycerine and stuff in your lungs, which.
01:14 * tesla4d executes that "which" for dishonoring the motherland.
01:14 tesla4d I think my fever's breaking. Not sure if I'm getting better, or if it's the tylenol that I took.
01:16 tesla4d But basically, it'd be really nice to have something for my mouth and hands to do while I'm on the computer that doesn't involve calories. Idle snacking is the bane of my waistline.
01:16 angy I got the humidor close to the computer, but it's definitely not healthy
01:17 Sythen mmmmm tea time
01:17 angy Yey!
01:17 angy do you want a bloody kettle ? :p
01:17 tesla4d Hmm, I thought my fever was going, but it's still 102. :/
01:17 angy get a cup of tea
01:17 Sythen nah, i already have one lol
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01:20 eadthem mmm 102 is a bit high
01:21 wannabe1987 careful with that 102
01:21 wannabe1987 hi Killa-X
01:21 tesla4d I feel like I'm a horrible convesationalist. All I can think of/talk about right now is my fever and tectonic headache.
01:21 wannabe1987 awww :(
01:21 wannabe1987 its ok...
01:22 tesla4d Earlier, when my fever was higher, I wrote an email to the professor whose class I missed. It's in haiku, apparently.
01:23 wannabe1987 nice
01:26 Kafka tesla4d, check your blood pressure.
01:26 tesla4d Ummm.
01:26 tesla4d Can't
01:26 tesla4d No sphygmomanometer... Or however it's spelled.
01:26 Kafka severe headaches can be symptoms of migraines, which give you an increased risk of stroke
01:27 Kafka does light or sound bother you right now?
01:27 Kafka also, do you feel a sort of pulsating pressure behind your eyes
01:27 Kafka if so, most likely migraine, which means DO NOT take "migraine relief" medicine, ever
01:27 tesla4d Oh. Yeah, I know I have elevated blood pressure. I'm pretty sure it's the illness that's causing this headache.
01:27 Kafka because those constrict arteries further and make it even MORE likely for you to have a stroke
01:27 tesla4d I think it's a flu
01:27 angy what is you "migraine relief" thing?
01:28 wannabe1987 i have a blood pressure cuff....come over, i'll check it
01:28 Kafka angy: there are painkillers specifically for migraines
01:28 Kafka they ease the symptoms
01:28 angy which kind?
01:28 Kafka but the cause, constricted arteries
01:28 Kafka they make that worse
01:28 wannabe1987 Kafka like excedrin?
01:28 Kafka angy: it'll say on the box in big shiny letters. just use asprin.
01:29 wannabe1987 i don't ever take asprin
01:29 wannabe1987 Druidic_Rifleman: http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/6093_554977284064_15302638_32686284_1282114_n.jpg
01:29 Kafka asprin or ibuprofin
01:29 wannabe1987 motrin is what i use....
01:29 Kafka those should be the go-to "light painkiller for headache" of anyone who suffers from migraines
01:29 Kafka they help alleviate the root cause of the symptoms
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01:30 angy I never saw that migraine causes increase stroke risk btw
01:31 Kafka angy: nearly every stroke that people have happens during a migraine
01:31 Kafka around 96% or something, iirc
01:31 angy I disseacre
01:31 angy I disagree
01:31 Kafka you're wrong then
01:31 angy I'm afraid not
01:31 Kafka migraine is constricted arteries impeding bloodflow to the brain
01:31 Sgt_Lemming angy, remind me how old you are?
01:31 Kafka in other words, the main cause of stroke
01:32 angy it's the position of the migraine society
01:32 Kafka migraine society? this is a thing?
01:32 angy it is
01:32 Sgt_Lemming Kafka, there is no known cause for migraine, there are lots of theories though
01:32 Sgt_Lemming one of which is constriction of blood vessels
01:32 Kafka Sgt_Lemming: no, migraine is defined as such
01:32 Kafka Sgt_Lemming: the cause of that is unknown, however
01:32 angy I
01:33 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migraine#Cause
01:33 Kafka the headaches and such are simply symptoms
01:33 angy I agree with leeming
01:33 wannabe1987 so do i....and my mom is nurse, i am nurse aid.  idk what you are in the medical field tho
01:33 Sgt_Lemming angy, that doesn't fill me with confidence, and I am the one being agreed with
01:33 angy I know really well that field
01:34 Sgt_Lemming how old are you angy?
01:34 angy sadly
01:34 angy 24
01:34 wannabe1987 angy i know you know the medical field
01:34 angy I knoiw migraines
01:34 tesla4d I can't believe I started another argument. :<
01:34 angy I'm sadly a rare case of male migrainic person
01:35 angy but I have to give a point to Kafka, for ophthalmic migraine, the research tend to point to blood vessels contriction
01:35 Kafka angy: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20572569
01:35 Kafka angy: as am I
01:35 angy let me fin my ebsco credentials
01:36 Kafka angy: i'm the fourth generation of migraine suffer in my family
01:36 angy beware that ophthalmic migraine is *not* migraine
01:36 Kafka ooh, and i've had cancer!
01:36 angy it's a kind of migraine
01:36 Kafka hepatoblastoma
01:36 wannabe1987 blood cancer?
01:36 angy don't ever go theree with me
01:37 Kafka wannabe1987: a blastoma in the liver
01:37 wannabe1987 you make it sound like you're *proud* to have had cancer and be a migraine sufferer....
01:37 wannabe1987 ahhh
01:37 wannabe1987 still working on my prefixes
01:37 Ponko man i love this
01:37 wannabe1987 what, Ponko?
01:37 Kafka wannabe1987: also, there's been teo men in my family to live past 60 years in the last 100 years
01:37 Kafka *two, lol
01:37 wannabe1987 congrats.  my grandparents are still alive, so idk how long they'll last
01:38 Ponko some dick on PSN has the GAUL to call me a pussy ass and say i don't know how to play madden
01:38 wannabe1987 well, do you know how to play madden?
01:38 tesla4d Ponko: "Gall"
01:38 Ponko and i kicked his ass with the flipping st louis rams
01:38 Kafka Ponko: the solution is to not use PSN
01:38 angy I trade my hemispheric with your ophthalmic whenever you wnat
01:38 Ponko i know
01:38 wannabe1987 clearly
01:39 Ponko and then he said i was messing him up by fake hiking
01:39 SparkyProjects How about Hypertension for 35 years, beat that :P
01:39 Ponko heck i'm an ACTUALLY Quarterback those mind games work wonders
01:39 Ponko sees how jumpy the d is
01:40 Ponko it works
01:40 Ponko but it can backfire
01:41 Ponko anyways
01:43 * Ponko waits for someone to save chat
01:44 angy the article you send me is unavailable, care to send the pdf?
01:46 angy btw Kafka, from the mayoclinics trials of migraine "The brain events that initiate a migraine attack are not well understood. Given the emerging evidence that migraine is based on complex, heterogeneous genetics, migraine attacks may be initiated in several ways"
01:47 wannabe1987 love mayo clinic
01:47 angy want to work there
01:47 angy I have a PhD candidature with them
01:48 wannabe1987 they couldn't complete my dads surgery cuz it was too close to the spinal cord, but they did good work :)
01:49 angy it's always tricky when it's close to the aorta or spinal cord
01:49 wannabe1987 yeah....
01:50 Ponko definately
01:50 angy and it's quite often that you discover things you can't see on the MRI/CT
01:52 Kafka angy: somehow nothing you said hilighted me o-o
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02:02 wannabe1987 bot?
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02:02 SuperToast .c 155lb to kg
02:02 BotSteve 70.3068174 kilograms
02:03 Ponko .c 202lbs to st
02:03 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
02:04 Ponko .c 202lb to St
02:04 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
02:04 Ponko .c 202lb to Kf
02:04 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
02:04 SuperToast .c 12kva to kv
02:04 Ponko fuck me
02:04 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
02:04 angy that we can do Ponko
02:04 Ponko HAHAHAHA
02:04 SuperToast Pelvic thrust!
02:04 angy that said, a cup of tea?
02:04 Ponko yep
02:04 SuperToast Yay, tea
02:04 Ponko please
02:05 angy usual? milk & 2 sugar?
02:05 SparkyProjects toast, try KVA to KW :P
02:05 SuperToast :P
02:05 eadthem SparkyProjects so UK standard is ring circuts?!?!
02:05 SuperToast .c 12kva to kw
02:05 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
02:06 SuperToast Hi tlockley
02:06 angy .c 1lb to lb
02:06 BotSteve 1 pound
02:06 tlockley heyo
02:06 SuperToast .c 1g to kg
02:06 BotSteve 0.001 kilograms
02:06 Ponko pounds to stone
02:06 Ponko .c $1 to £
02:06 BotSteve 0.633312223 UK£
02:06 SparkyProjects For sockets, yes.
02:06 SparkyProjects Though we do have occasional radials, like for a dedicated main freezer  socket so it doesn't go off if other circuits trip
02:08 Ponko Chevrolet is the US Vauxhall
02:08 SparkyProjects If you think about a radial with several socket, the first part of the wiring would be taking full load, the last bit would take the least
02:08 SparkyProjects A ring spreads the loading better.
02:08 SparkyProjects We used to have radials until i think the 70's
02:08 eadthem just dont know what to think
02:09 Ponko GM is based in Detroit and Elsmere Port
02:09 Sythen careful people, there be badgers eating porn stars out there
02:09 Ponko mainly Detroit
02:09 Ponko O_O
02:10 SparkyProjects A 30 Amp ring can have as many sockets as you want, as long as the circuit doesn't cover more than 100 square metres
02:10 Ponko wha wha WHAATTTT!!11
02:10 eadthem GM is also in KC
02:10 Ponko :P
02:10 tlockley thats really cool SparkyProjects
02:10 eadthem ive accualy been in the GM plant that makes the malibu
02:10 Ponko but KC isn't in KS
02:10 Sythen http://gawker.com/5839596/gordon-ramsays-porn-dwarf-double-eaten-by-badger
02:10 Ponko or is it KA
02:10 eadthem accualy its in both KS and MO
02:10 eadthem the larger of the 2 is MO
02:11 SparkyProjects Remember, we also have fuses in our plugs, so you insert the right fuse for the application
02:11 Ponko yeah was gonna say
02:11 Ponko is the Arrowhead in KS
02:11 eadthem dont know  im not in to football
02:11 Ponko lol
02:11 Ponko .w Arrowhead Stadium
02:11 BotSteve "Arrowhead Stadium (commonly The Sea of Red or simply Arrowhead) is a stadium located in Kansas City, Missouri and home to the NFL's Kansas City Chiefs." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrowhead_Stadium
02:11 tlockley right so the need for individual breakers to deal with different appliances is handled in the cord instead
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02:12 wannabe1987 my good friend margaret's sister's house burned downtoday :(
02:15 SparkyProjects Yep, what we normally have is a ring for downstairs, a ring for upstairs, a ring for the kitchen, and if it's separate, another ring for the utility, though often the kitchen and utility is on the same circuit
02:15 eadthem what i have is 3 circuts for the kitchen   a 240 for stove   1 for living  1 for bedroom and one for furnace
02:15 eadthem iirc
02:16 eadthem but its all star format
02:16 tlockley very cool. in my house alone there is over 20 circuits
02:16 eadthem i think the NFPA would shoot you if you attempted a ring circut in the US
02:17 tlockley indeed they would
02:17 eadthem i might if you ring circuted my ground wires :p
02:17 tlockley lol
02:18 SparkyProjects We can wire a 3 bedroom house (including lighting, oven, water heater, electric shower) with a 8 way board
02:18 tlockley 8way?
02:20 SparkyProjects 8 breakers
02:20 SparkyProjects Biggest i've installed in a 3 bed house is 20 ways, but they had 2 ovens, outside lights, central heating control, alarm and some other stuff
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02:20 eadthem dam
02:20 tlockley with 8 breakers i could maybee do a 1person apartment
02:20 tlockley but it would be severly lacking in outlets
02:21 SparkyProjects And a 100Amp service is plenty, 80A is usual
02:21 eadthem my parents house they own atm  has 8 sub breakers   and 4 main breakers (pushmatic)
02:21 tlockley well the main difference on that front is that mains is 240 there right?
02:22 SparkyProjects Not short of outlets, as i said before, you can have as many outlets as you want on a circuit as long as it doesn't cover more than 100 sq metres
02:22 SparkyProjects yep 240 at 50Hz
02:23 eadthem then i installed a subpanel in the garage with another 4 20 amp breakers for the shop outlets  240 30 amp for the lathe  240 20 amp for table saw 240 20 amp for heatpump
02:23 tlockley ok so it is still 50Hz. i had someone try and tell me that england was/had moved to 60Hz
02:23 angy 240 split-phase?
02:24 eadthem for me  yes
02:24 Sythen lol. someone said that we moved to 60hz? ROFL
02:25 tlockley more like WTF
02:25 angy there is huge 40HZ grid in UK
02:25 eadthem i mean every house ive been in has been like that    no less than 14 breakers in the panel  usualy 1 or 2 subpanels  with 2 to 8 breakers in them
02:25 Sythen fuckin moron
02:25 tlockley inded and acording to the same person, PAL is a dead standard
02:26 eadthem sounds like they need to lay off the booze
02:26 SparkyProjects The supply in the street is 3 phase with 240 from any live to neutral, in a set of 3 houses in the street they take a phase to each house in turn, then repeat along the rest of the street
02:26 SparkyProjects Neutral is also ground but provided using a separate conductor
02:26 Sythen well, is this age of digital video, in terms of internal video, there all dead
02:26 eadthem true that
02:26 SparkyProjects angy, i'd like to know where that grid is, never heard of it
02:26 angy I
02:26 tlockley true, but occasionally i will run into that one video that is pal not ntsc
02:27 angy I don't know if it's still online
02:27 angy I'll try to retrieve that for you, saw that in electrical engineering
02:27 Sythen tvs made these days dont have any issue
02:28 tlockley i still have tubes all over my house
02:28 Sythen i dont own a tv
02:28 tlockley infact i still have a sony trinitron from the 70s that still works
02:28 tlockley but the IR is going so its a pain to change the volume
02:28 SparkyProjects I've heard about a 6 phase supply that was used for a special purpose, but that was still 50Hz
02:29 angy we used it to study hashers and all that jazz
02:30 angy but given the teacher, it's well possible that it was merge in the national grid in 1950
02:36 tlockley g'night everyone
02:36 angy bye
02:36 SuperToast night tlockley
02:37 SuperToast I have a question about transformers
02:37 Sythen there robots in disguise
02:37 SuperToast Can't you just wind wire around a core on 2 sides and it be a transformer?
02:38 Sgt_Lemming SuperToast, yesm, a rather inefficient one though
02:38 angy we used that to cheat in a robot competition
02:39 SuperToast But it would kinda work?
02:39 angy it will, very inefficient, but it will
02:39 Sgt_Lemming 400Hz yes, 40Hz no
02:39 Sgt_Lemming I have never seen any mention, let alone proof or equipment for a 40Hz system
02:39 CaptainNiobe g'day, everyone
02:39 SuperToast So at 60hz it wouldn't work?
02:39 SuperToast CaptainNiobe!
02:40 CaptainNiobe SuperToast! *glomps* HAI! :D
02:40 SparkyProjects Toast, Lemming was referring to an earlier discussion about 40Hz
02:40 SuperToast Oh...
02:40 SuperToast Lol
02:41 SparkyProjects Your transformer will work, but as said above, it may be inefficient.
02:41 angy if you're able not to burn it, it will work
02:41 angy beware of the temperature
02:41 Sgt_Lemming SuperToast, one of the things a transformer has to be designed for is the frequency
02:41 SuperToast So there are equations to make a better one?
02:42 Sgt_Lemming of course
02:42 Sgt_Lemming question is can you make sense of the equations?
02:42 angy all is down to magnetic flux if I remember correctly
02:42 SuperToast If I knew the variables, possibly...
02:42 Sgt_Lemming not just down to magnetic flux at all angy
02:42 Sgt_Lemming that is one of many variables
02:43 angy I had a whole series of courses, but never used them
02:43 Cprossu so what's new in this room?
02:43 Sgt_Lemming not alot Cprossu
02:43 angy that can help http://ecee.colorado.edu/copec/book/slides/Ch15slides.pdf
02:43 Sgt_Lemming building my MC server again after changing the disks and then doing the raid resync
02:43 Sgt_Lemming that took a while...
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02:44 Cprossu I bet.
02:44 Hackbat Woo!
02:44 Hackbat I just bought an Artifact
02:44 Hackbat :3
02:44 Sgt_Lemming raid resync took about 10 hours
02:44 Sgt_Lemming was mildly annoying
02:44 Hackbat now I can be cool like captain
02:44 Cprossu I just made an overglorified sine wave generator in garrysmod while trying to make my new engine control system for a V8 me and a buddy built.
02:45 Sgt_Lemming rofl
02:45 Cprossu problem is the gyro reads messed up.
02:45 Sythen nice
02:45 SuperToast So in order to change voltages, it uses low voltage and high amperage and converts it to high voltage and low amperage?
02:45 Hackbat the only down side is the box opener I ordered is in a box
02:45 Cprossu and a E2 gyro seems to be reading -80 to +80
02:45 Cprossu so I haven't figured that out yet
02:45 Cprossu I'd like to have 0-360 and back to 0
02:45 Sythen i love wire, and i hate wire
02:47 SparkyProjects SuperToast, yes in basic terms
02:47 SuperToast Ok
02:47 SuperToast Thank you :)
02:48 SparkyProjects you have to rate the wire and amount of turns to cope with the current and allow for losses.
02:48 SparkyProjects That's why a step-down transformer primary is tin wire, and the  secondary is thicker with less turns
02:49 Sgt_Lemming for a high current one
02:50 Sgt_Lemming with transformers SuperToast, the general thing is the ratio of turns is the ratio of voltages
02:51 Sgt_Lemming i.e. a 20:1 transformer with 240v input will give 12v out
02:51 Sgt_Lemming in practice it's not that simple
02:51 Sgt_Lemming but the amperage follows the inverse of the same rule
02:52 SuperToast so if you had a really weird transformer with 20 turns on the higher voltage side, and one turn on the other, its basically the same
02:52 SuperToast Only really inefficient
02:52 * Sgt_Lemming nods
02:52 Sgt_Lemming the amount of current your are pulling through it has a big effect on it as well
02:52 angy designing will vary a lot for what you seek from ir
02:53 SuperToast So a 2:1 transformer with 200 on the hv side would have 100 on the lv side to get that result, at the most basic level
02:53 * Sgt_Lemming nods
02:53 SuperToast so it'd be 240v down to 120v
02:53 Sgt_Lemming yup
02:54 SuperToast Okay
02:54 SparkyProjects It's possible that when you design the trasformer that you may read 12 volts with no load, but that will drop if you put enough load on  it.
02:54 SuperToast I'd like to make a crude step up transformer sometime
02:55 Sgt_Lemming step up transformers actually don't work very well
02:55 SparkyProjects If possible use an 'E&I' core, or a 'C&T' core and place the coils on the middle arm
02:56 SparkyProjects What sort of voltage are you thinking of for the secondary ?
02:57 SuperToast I r4eally don't know, just to see if I can make one
02:58 SuperToast *really
02:58 SparkyProjects Remember to use sufficeint insulation, especially if you're heading for the 1000's
02:58 SuperToast Oh, nothing that high
02:59 SuperToast I was thinking 9v to 18v :P
02:59 SuperToast Or 12v to 14v
03:00 SparkyProjects Ah, ok, you'd get awat with a paper former and no extra insulation
03:00 angy don't use DC :)
03:00 SuperToast Yeah, I'm going to learn properly before I play with hv
03:00 SparkyProjects You can use DC if you chop it
03:01 SuperToast Chop it?
03:01 * wannabe1987 nommed toast
03:01 Sgt_Lemming switch it on and off rapidly
03:01 SparkyProjects Turn it on and off, like with an electronoc circuit (inverter)
03:01 SuperToast Lol
03:01 tesla4d SuperToast: Pulsed DC is pretty much the same as AC with a DC component, at least to an inductor.
03:02 SparkyProjects DC is half cycle AC
03:02 SparkyProjects Though the transformer may see it as ac
03:02 SuperToast But DC is constant
03:02 tesla4d Look up Fourier
03:02 angy pure DC is
03:03 angy very rare to find it
03:03 Ponko night
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03:03 SuperToast And you need AC in order to get large pulsating fields?
03:03 Sgt_Lemming whether you see it as AC or DC depends entirely on your frame of reference
03:03 Sgt_Lemming SuperToast, no
03:03 tesla4d I'm probably not helping. I'll go away for now.
03:03 angy byt Ponko
03:03 SuperToast Bye Ponko
03:03 SparkyProjects Toast, get an old transformer, attach the higher voltage end to your hands, then connect and disconnect a battery on the low voltage ed :P
03:04 SuperToast :|
03:05 SuperToast No
03:05 SuperToast It's better to use your tongue :P
03:06 hopstafarian SparkyProjects, was that a nice way of saying go eat a bowl of nixons? if so, i'm gonna use that, with your permission
03:06 tesla4d Physics-wise, here's what happens: When you have a coil of wire in a stable magnetic field, nothing happens. But when that coil of wire is in a changing magnetic field, there's a little current induced in it...
03:06 SparkyProjects No, it was a scientific way to demonstrate what pulsed DC does with a transformer ;)
03:07 tesla4d On the other end, you have a coil of wire that that is magnetically coupled with the other one, so that when a current flows through it, it generates a magnetic field...
03:07 * hopstafarian admits that he usually doesn't read the backlog afore he dives in...sorry, only caught the backside of that convo
03:09 SuperToast Brb
03:09 tesla4d The important thing is that the unpowered coil only reacts to *changes* in the magnetic field, not the strength of the magnetic field. The way you get that magnetic field to change is to run a changing current through the primary coil. This can be AC, or pulsed DC.
03:09 SuperToast BatSteve!
03:09 tesla4d And that's why transformers work with AC or pulsed DC, but not steady DC
03:10 SuperToast Don't go before I get back!
03:10 * BatSteve wonders if hopstafarian is related to boozetafarian
03:10 * wannabe1987 wonders who hopstafarian is....
03:10 BatSteve SuperToast: depending on when you get back, I may or may not be able to manage that
03:10 SuperToast I'll be back in 15-30 minutes
03:10 * hopstafarian shrugs, and says he's never heard of such a thing b4
03:11 BatSteve it'll be tough, I'm super tired
03:11 SuperToast Aw...
03:11 angy I won't make it
03:11 BatSteve .g disco bandit kol
03:11 BotSteve BatSteve: http://kol.coldfront.net/thekolwiki/index.php/Disco_Bandit
03:11 * hopstafarian >>is disappointed that he's not as original as he thought he was..
03:11 SuperToast Ok then, Bye if I don't talk to you again
03:11 angy byt Toast
03:11 SuperToast Okay, now I'll brb
03:12 hopstafarian wannabe1987, wonder that too, but existentialistic musings aside, used to come here as nemosis
03:12 wannabe1987 ahhhh
03:12 wannabe1987 sounds cool :P
03:12 wannabe1987 i was busy all day and now i'm actually HERE
03:13 * wannabe1987 needs a basket for her knitting stuff
03:13 hopstafarian tesla4d, thank you for the lesson, even though i only unnerstood half of it...
03:13 hopstafarian what does magnetic coupling mean either absolutely, if that's appropriate, or the context of your explanation?
03:14 tesla4d You're welcome... But I thought I was talking to SuperToast? I can't think straight right now. Stupid splitting headache.
03:14 tesla4d In the context of my explanation, it means that the magnetic field affecting one coil would also affect the other coil.
03:14 hopstafarian tesla4d, sorry then, i was just butting in..hope u feel better sooner
03:14 tesla4d No, that's fine. I don't mind chatting.
03:15 tesla4d The most common way to ensure that the coils of a transformer is to wind the coils around the same "core" which is roughly a piece of iron.
03:15 hopstafarian thanks for that...so i have no formal training, and have misunderstood half of the things i've been taught, so forgive me..
03:16 tesla4d I don't know enough of the details  to go into core design, though.
03:16 * tesla4d is training to be an Engineer. Not an engineer yet.
03:16 hopstafarian so in a transformer, you have two opposing coils next to each other, no?
03:17 angy I've never see core design for small transformers, just go with off the shelf
03:17 tesla4d I don't think "opposing" is really the right word. They'll just be wound around the same core. Sometimes you can clearly see one coil seperate from the other. Other times one will be wrapped around the other so it looks like one big coil.
03:18 hopstafarian oh, ok , sorry...my head was elsewhere..
03:18 hopstafarian ty, not it is clearer..
03:18 hopstafarian *now
03:18 tesla4d You will see a polarity change depending on whether the coils are wound the same direction or in opposite directions, though. If you go into the archives of Geek Group videos, there's a video on "Phasing Neon Sign Transformers". It might help.
03:20 hopstafarian ty...that's why i love coming here, i always pick something up..
03:21 * hopstafarian bids all a good night
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03:22 * wannabe1987 needs a REAL backrub.....
03:22 wannabe1987 holycrapPAIN
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03:31 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFrfvbL5Syk&amp;feature=player_embedded#!
03:31 * Druidic_Rifleman tries to help wannabe but his arms are two short
03:32 eadthem thats what happens when electronic engineers get boord
03:32 wannabe1987 lol
03:32 wannabe1987 start walking?
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03:35 wannabe1987 MobileHobo?  hobos have smartphones?
03:36 MobileHobo Sure why not, as long as they don't have a home
03:37 BatSteve zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
03:37 BatSteve-Away sorry SuperToast
03:37 BatSteve-Away BotSteve: tell SuperToast I waited as long as I could
03:37 BotSteve BatSteve-Away: I'll pass that on when SuperToast is around.
03:37 wannabe1987 MobileHobo, don't they need an address to send the bill to? :P
03:42 MobileHobo Prepaid?
03:42 wannabe1987 most hobos don't have that kind of money....idk about your city/state/country
03:44 wannabe1987 when i was homeless i didn't have that kind of money....
03:44 wannabe1987 unless i woulda sold more FS, but they frown on that
03:46 Sgt_Lemming FS?
03:47 wannabe1987 food stamps
03:47 Sgt_Lemming ah, right
03:47 wannabe1987 yea
03:49 SuperToast Darn, I missed Bats...
03:49 BotSteve SuperToast: I have the following messages for you:
03:49 BotSteve At 03:37Z, BatSteve-Away asked me to tell SuperToast I waited as long as I could
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03:50 wannabe1987 awwww poor SuperToast
03:50 wannabe1987 so are you now not toastdude? :S
03:51 SuperToast I'm still Toastdude
03:51 * wannabe1987 has stickered letters on her keys.....
03:51 wannabe1987 no, you're supertoast
03:51 wannabe1987 so i can learn dvorak later :S
03:51 SuperToast In a parallel multiverse, I'm Toastdude
03:51 wannabe1987 o.O
03:52 SuperToast :D
03:54 * wannabe1987 knows at least 8 chris'
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03:55 wannabe1987 is 8 too many?  like seriously
04:00 AndChat- Sure
04:02 wannabe1987 lol
04:15 * wannabe1987 has headache. wtf
04:26 MadManMarkAu Okay, you know Batman from TGG?
04:26 MadManMarkAu Is he on IRC?
04:26 MadManMarkAu I have something for him.
04:31 SuperToast Bye all
04:31 tonsofpcs he is not
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04:32 douglas hi wannabe1987
04:32 wannabe1987 o.O
04:32 wannabe1987 speed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04:33 douglas well dont you look happy
04:33 douglas lol
04:33 wannabe1987 tonight is a MUCH better night than last night and i have fun to look forward to on sunday :)
04:35 MadManMarkAu http://everythingnew.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Batman-Equation-solved.png
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04:35 douglas im back
04:35 douglas sorry
04:35 wannabe1987 hi MadManMarkAu
04:36 wannabe1987 hows australia?
04:36 wannabe1987 and wb douglas
04:36 MadManMarkAu S'ok, I guess
04:38 wannabe1987 you guess?
04:38 wannabe1987 can't be that bad, can it?
04:38 wannabe1987 you don't have to deal with snow :P
04:38 douglas raahhhh im goin back to windows
04:39 wannabe1987 what are you on?
04:39 douglas klinux mint
04:39 douglas its not connecting to a minecraft server
04:39 douglas linux mint
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04:48 minecraftdude hi wannabe1987
04:48 wannabe1987 o.O
04:48 wannabe1987 hi minecraft
04:48 Hackbat yay <3
04:48 Hackbat yay
04:48 wannabe1987 hearts?
04:48 wannabe1987 ok
04:48 minecraftdude Hackbat: ?
04:49 * wannabe1987 thinks its speed
04:50 Hackbat I love my new GFX card <3
04:50 wannabe1987 google force ex?
04:51 wannabe1987 great fucking exploration?
04:51 wannabe1987 i can continue to make up things....
04:54 wannabe1987 hi devast8a
04:56 * minecraftdude devastates devast8a
04:57 Hackbat Graphics card :\
04:57 wannabe1987 ooooo ok
05:07 * wannabe1987 finds it funny her friend tries to talk sports (soccer) with her....it doesn't work
05:09 Sgt_Lemming ok
05:09 Sgt_Lemming our minecraft server currently consists of ~12'000 files
05:09 Sgt_Lemming not including backups
05:10 Sythen tasty
05:10 wannabe1987 ?
05:10 wannabe1987 why are you still up Sythen
05:10 Sgt_Lemming including the backups... it's 34GB
05:11 Sythen wait, your minecraft server is 34gb? jesus wept
05:11 Sythen i dont know why im still awake hehe
05:13 wannabe1987 i'm getting ready for bet...its 1:13am....
05:13 wannabe1987 its what, 613 there?
05:13 wannabe1987 713?
05:13 Sythen yup
05:13 Sgt_Lemming 15:13 here
05:13 wannabe1987 nice
05:14 wannabe1987 i was in england once.....thats why i semi-know the time difference. :P
05:14 Sythen heh
05:15 wannabe1987 what?  it was fun
05:15 wannabe1987 we got to play our instruments in carlisle cathedral :D
05:15 wannabe1987 and go everywhere....in a circl, counter clockwise, around england
05:16 Sythen likely chance you passed through my city
05:16 wannabe1987 which?
05:16 Sythen birmingham
05:17 wannabe1987 hmmmm
05:19 wannabe1987 reigate, stonehenge, salisbury, bath, coventry, barrow in turnes, cambridge, london, scotland (for a bit), carlsile, leeds, etc.
05:19 wannabe1987 i don't remember a birmingham, but that doesn't mean we didnt see it
05:19 wannabe1987 this was in 06
05:19 Sythen heh
05:20 Hackbat http://www.adultswim.com/shows/squidbillies/hat-contest/index.html
05:20 Hackbat :D
05:40 wannabe-zz night!
05:41 Sythen g'night
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06:01 [1]splint ahoy!
06:02 [1]splint holy shit what is that?
06:15 Cprossu .c 9.95 nzd to usd
06:15 BotSteve 8.2585 U.S. dollars
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06:54 Experimentonomen guten morgen peepz
07:09 Experimentonomen hmm i dont get this im looking sat a site for a pwm sinewave thing with the arduino, the code mentions the mega168 and the description on the site sez Arduino Duemilanove but all those i find have the mega328, im so confused :/
07:23 [1]splint me too!
07:28 Hackbat Experimentonomen, doesn't matter. It's just a mega with more power
07:28 Hackbat size mainly
07:34 Experimentonomen 8 vs 16kb of flash
07:34 Hackbat yep
07:36 [1]splint So what do you guys do with that stuff?  I could never think of something that would be fun and easy-ish to do with circuitry, mostly because i am uncreative.
07:36 Experimentonomen so with the 328 i should have less trouble generating three phase outputs with each respective sinewave shifted 120deg in phase from the one before than with the 168 ?
07:37 Experimentonomen me and analog circuitry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hox171sP3wM
07:37 Hackbat eeeh
07:37 Hackbat just means more space all in all
07:38 Experimentonomen me and discrete transistors: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHYBkm9tmbs
07:39 Hackbat me and analog circuitry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cXlXC5_gr0 ;p
07:41 [1]splint Haha, those were awesome, that amp is freaking.
07:47 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8eCFcsgkjs <-- thats my "daily driver" amp
07:50 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gHDi9HHdIE <-- and when i found the 10A outlet in the kitchen :P
07:57 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_nxQapTmQU
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08:04 Experimentonomen wb Hackbat
08:05 Hackbat Heyo
08:05 Hackbat dvd stopped working
08:05 Hackbat idk why
08:05 Hackbat had to reboot :3
08:05 Experimentonomen hm
08:05 Hackbat All good now
08:06 * Hackbat is installing Fallout 1-2 + tactics
08:06 * Experimentonomen listens to NES game tunes
08:08 Hackbat oooooh
08:08 Hackbat this disk has Player made mods on it!
08:08 Hackbat and it was published by the company! Very nice :3
08:09 Experimentonomen hm
08:10 Experimentonomen fallout, that game title sounds like its about the aftermath from a nuclear bomb gone off :P
08:27 Cprossu yay!
08:27 Cprossu http://www.boxtin.co.nz/
08:27 Cprossu I finally have a mincraft that isn't eye cancer!
08:28 Experimentonomen eye cancer ? o_O
08:31 Cprossu yeah eye cancer =P
08:33 Cprossu Experimentonomen: http://oi55.tinypic.com/23h3dcm.jpg
08:33 Cprossu it's rather deep too
08:35 Experimentonomen hm
08:36 Cprossu one of the coders of wiremod
08:36 Cprossu made it from the ground up
08:36 Cprossu (wiremod from garrysmod)
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10:30 Sgt_Lemming heh
10:31 Sgt_Lemming those of you who know linux will like this
10:31 Sgt_Lemming just made the 1m load average on my server hit 4420 :-P
10:31 Sgt_Lemming it's a Dual CPU dual core machine with 16GB ram
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11:54 Electricguy LOL! XD http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Jod1Wjkj6Ms/TnLoJMEwPbI/AAAAAAACYZw/hGOL0Yfx7kc/s1600/funny_demotivational_posters_22.jpg
13:12 wannabe-afk .tfw 49428
13:12 BotSteve 49°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Jenison, MI!  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
13:43 Toast-Away Hi
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14:05 masterofmonks hi Guest54606 formerally justme. You can choose another nick by using the following command /nick yournewnick
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14:09 Experimentonomen hm if this code works, im gonna add a LCD that tells the current PWM frequency and the set output sinewave frequency
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14:11 BotSteve Welcome back, boss.
14:12 BatSteve thanks BotSteve
14:12 BotSteve You're welcome, BatSteve
14:13 SparkyProjects Batsteve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pBXjAQX7W8
14:14 BatSteve click
14:15 BatSteve hahaha that's awesome that the captain still has to wear his jacket for the hop
14:18 BatSteve What's the distance on that trip, I wonder?  Maybe 8km?
14:19 SparkyProjects It's a commercial flight that follows all the regs
14:19 SparkyProjects The fastest time the flight has been done is 58 seconds
14:21 SparkyProjects Batsteve A to B http://g.co/maps/8sw7s
14:23 SparkyProjects i make it about 2Km in a straight line
14:23 SparkyProjects sorry, 3Km
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14:26 BatSteve Cool
14:26 BatSteve Unrelated (and I know I'll never be able to prove this) I believe that the "short link" option in google maps was because of me.
14:27 BatSteve I sent it in as a suggestion to Google and a week later it was there.
14:27 BatSteve Provable?  No.
14:27 SparkyProjects If that's the case, then cool :)
14:27 BatSteve Pretty big coincidence?  Yes.
14:27 BatSteve (:
14:28 angy when was that?
14:28 SparkyProjects I once sent an email to photobucket for a suggestion about sharing an account with collaborators, about a monnth later and it was done
14:29 BatSteve angy: between one and three months ago, if I remember correctly.
14:29 angy short link for google maps first show up in the beta around July 10th, if you're a few days before, it's you
14:29 angy google maps labs
14:31 BatSteve hm I wonder if I can check back and see when it was
14:32 angy if it made labs in first half of july, it was coded roughly a month ago
14:32 angy so check for 1-20 june
14:34 angy given it's an easy thing to code, which is to my opinion :)
14:34 SparkyProjects Problem is, there may have been several requests for short url, yours may have been ine that swelled the numbers enough for them to do it.
14:34 BatSteve Yeah.  And there's no way to know for sure, short of camping outside the google campus in california and questioning everyone who walks by
14:35 angy send them an email or call your google support representative
14:35 SparkyProjects Take a look at the forum to see if others were suggesting it
14:35 angy they're nice, even though they never got an answer
14:36 BatSteve haha - I care, but I don't care that much.  It's just nice that it's there.
14:37 angy you don't want to spend 2 days on the phone with google? not nice for them!
14:37 angy :)
14:39 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXsDfuVctFk <- haha my comment got approved :D
14:42 BatSteve haha nice
14:42 SparkyProjects Batsteve, apparently it was a popular request http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/maps/thread?tid=56572f3b2871390d&amp;hl=en
14:43 BatSteve Bah.  So it was a coincidence.
14:47 BatSteve Oh well.
14:48 Sythen morning all
14:48 angy Sythen: Teat time!
14:49 Sythen already beat ya to it
14:49 BatSteve morning Sythen
14:49 angy :)
14:50 Sythen morning BatSteve, morning angy
14:52 angy evening Sythen
14:53 Experimentonomen g'day Sythen
14:53 Sythen morning Experimentonomen
14:55 * Experimentonomen is kinda dieing to try his little code thing when the duino arrives in 3-8 weeks :/
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16:02 MoxieMike .tfw 04101
16:02 BotSteve 60°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Portland, ME!  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
16:05 Experimentonomen BotSteve
16:05 Experimentonomen you swear alot :P
16:06 BatSteve only when someone asks him about tfw
16:06 BatSteve (:
16:11 Cprossu BotSteve: tell BatSteve He can fucking curse by proxy too you know ;)
16:11 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
16:11 BatSteve ha!
16:12 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
16:12 BotSteve At 16:11Z, Cprossu asked me to tell BatSteve He can fucking curse by proxy too you know ;)
16:12 Cprossu or rather I should have used "I"
16:12 BatSteve yeah
16:12 Cprossu BotSteve: tell BatSteve I can fucking curse by proxy too you know ;)
16:12 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
16:12 Cprossu like that lol
16:12 BatSteve exactly
16:12 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
16:12 BotSteve At 16:12Z, Cprossu asked me to tell BatSteve I can fucking curse by proxy too you know ;)
16:13 BatSteve As soon as I figure out how to get the bot to realize what channel he's in, I intend to put him in tgg_nsfw and have every command contain cursing
16:13 Cprossu sounds like a plan.
16:13 Cprossu I'm trying to help report bugs in a minecraft-like-game (it's minecraft without the java or eye cancer)
16:14 Cprossu and I'm waiting for the damn thing to memory leak out and crash so I can play again and post the error for the coder lol
16:14 SparkyProjects Or name the Bot something with a swear word just for nsfw (so 2 bots)
16:14 SparkyProjects 'FuckingBotSteve' maybe
16:14 Cprossu http://www.boxtin.co.nz/
16:15 Cprossu what's freenode's position on curse word nick's though?
16:15 minecraftdude hi
16:16 * minecraftdude pokes Cprossu
16:16 SparkyProjects Good point
16:16 Cprossu hello
16:16 Cprossu o_o
16:16 minecraftdude Cprossu: ?
16:16 Cprossu we don't have nosh on this irc do we?
16:17 minecraftdude nosh?
16:17 Cprossu minecraftdude: I hate java.
16:17 minecraftdude lol cprossy
16:17 Cprossu and the textures in MC. too many friends have tried to get me to play it and I hate it due to the textures/stuff
16:17 Coderjoe i'm not sure notch uses irc. but it seems the quasi-official mc channel is on espernet
16:17 minecraftdude cprossu*
16:18 Cprossu ok Coderjoe heh
16:18 minecraftdude Cprossu: you can get texture packs, there easy to install
16:18 minecraftdude you can even up the resolution for some packs with a mod
16:18 Cprossu that just ensures other people can't see what I built correctly
16:18 Cprossu minecraftdude: download boxtin, give it a look.
16:19 Cprossu it was made by a wiremod (for garrysmod) coder
16:19 Cprossu it's pretty slick.
16:19 minecraftdude i googled it i cant find it
16:20 Cprossu minecraftdude: http://www.boxtin.co.nz/
16:20 Cprossu it's been out a whole week.
16:20 Cprossu forums have only been up since yesterday
16:20 minecraftdude what the....looks just like minecraft
16:20 minecraftdude is this not java?
16:21 Seroster Minecraftdude
16:21 Seroster Dude...
16:21 minecraftdude what
16:22 minecraftdude Seroster: ?
16:22 Seroster I never played minecraf
16:22 Seroster t
16:22 Seroster BWAHAHHAHAHA
16:23 minecraftdude i feel sad for you Seroster
16:23 Seroster =)
16:23 Cprossu minecraftdude: http://oi55.tinypic.com/23h3dcm.jpg
16:24 Seroster Wtfisthat?
16:24 Cprossu a screenshot from this weird ass game I'm messing with
16:25 minecraftdude looks like it is way easyer to make logic circuits
16:25 Cprossu it is.
16:25 minecraftdude i like minecrafts way better
16:25 minecraftdude only not gates
16:25 minecraftdude it forces you to be ccreative
16:25 Cprossu no it just means you can't do anything complex.
16:25 Cprossu like build a working engine.
16:26 minecraftdude yes you can
16:26 minecraftdude tits just bigger
16:26 minecraftdude its*
16:26 minecraftdude with pistions, you probably can build an engine
16:26 Cprossu there's also sand physics in this game.
16:27 minecraftdude sand physics?
16:27 Experimentonomen who is minecraftdude ?
16:27 Cprossu yes sand moves down.
16:27 Cprossu I don't know I've never seen him before.
16:27 Cprossu or her
16:27 minecraftdude sand moves down in minecraft
16:27 Cprossu slowly.
16:28 minecraftdude its fast, what are you playing classic?
16:28 * Experimentonomen has 1.8.1
16:28 minecraftdude i do too
16:28 Cprossu I stopped playing as soon as I started playing.
16:28 minecraftdude im lovving it
16:29 minecraftdude thats because you were plauing classic
16:29 Experimentonomen i also have a server but i rarely have it up since my connection likes to just die or reset itself randomly
16:29 minecraftdude beta is so mutch better
16:31 Cprossu I was playing beta minecraftdude
16:31 Cprossu on a firends account
16:31 Cprossu *friends
16:31 Cprossu I stopped playing it the same hour I started.
16:31 Cprossu eye cancer, too many mods that do or don't work, screw it!
16:31 Cprossu and it's bloody java.
16:33 minecraftdude you dont have to use mods. or be on a server with mods
16:33 minecraftdude i have a server that dosent have mods, if you wish to see
16:34 Cprossu I have been hosting a server for my other MC buddies minecraftdude.
16:34 Cprossu I still hate it.
16:34 Cprossu and I don't play it.
16:35 Cprossu hence why I am happy there's an alternative.
16:35 Cprossu (one with a lot more potential.)
16:37 minecraftdude what does it use instead of java?
16:38 Cprossu gotta go and find out because I can't remember
16:38 Experimentonomen infiniminer ? :P
16:38 Cprossu The whole thing is coded in Digital Mars D with the Tango runtime library
16:39 Cprossu The only third party libraries used are OpenGL, SDL and OpenAL
16:44 Cprossu ahhh speedrunner =P
16:44 Cprossu jerk.
16:44 Cprossu Java sucks =P speedrunnerG55 =P
16:44 minecraftdude lol Cprossu
16:57 Experimentonomen java sucks indeed, too much memory leakage
16:59 Experimentonomen and shipping from china sucks too, so fucking slow :/
17:00 Cprossu dealextreme?
17:00 Cprossu just curious.
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17:06 aEx155 anyone here good with linux? I need help troubleshooting something
17:07 Cprossu nearly everyone here. what's the issue, distro, and arch though?
17:07 angy and the boot loader
17:08 Cprossu lol angy I hope no one still uses lilo
17:08 angy I use lilo
17:08 Cprossu o_O and it works and everything?
17:08 aEx155 I just installed Ubuntu 11.04 to try and fix some problems with ports not forwarding but it didn't help so I'm wondering if there's something else I shold try
17:08 Cprossu ubuntu (damn I shoulda known)
17:08 angy indeed
17:08 angy way better than grub
17:09 Cprossu once you know your way around grub... oh never mind. the same could be said about debillitating diseases too
17:09 angy but the particular care I use it is quite non representative :p
17:10 Cprossu so anyway is your linux box directly connected to the inet or running through a router aEx155
17:11 aEx155 I have it connected to a router, and I was able to open the ports on the router before and it worked for some time
17:11 angy there is a weird fw shipped with ubuntu no?
17:11 Cprossu did it break in an update?
17:12 Cprossu eg what was the last thing you did before it stopped working aEx155
17:12 Cprossu also are you running a static internal IP or dhcp?
17:12 Experimentonomen crapbuntu :P
17:13 aEx155 Cprossu if I remember correctly it broke after a city-wide power outage, and I'm pretty sure my router is dhcp
17:14 Cprossu aEx155: you might want to check and make sure the local ip your ubuntu box has the same IP addr as you set to port forward
17:14 Cprossu in other words compare your local IP with the router's forwarded port IP
17:14 CaptainNiobe goodnight all, bed time... :)
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17:15 splint morning
17:15 Experimentonomen g'day splint
17:15 Seroster Hi there stralian
17:15 Cprossu morning splint
17:15 aEx155 I have an IP from my router, and it matches the one from whatismyip.com
17:15 Seroster Never seen you before splint, new here?
17:15 splint Yea, i've been lurking around for about a week now?
17:15 Cprossu it's another phoenix person, this makes me happy.
17:16 * Cprossu high fives splint for running GMT-7 without any DST bullshit!
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17:16 Seroster Crud. I'm just blind then =P
17:16 * splint Jumps up in a rainbow sparkle glory of not giving a fuck about clocks!
17:16 wannabe1987 o.O
17:16 * wannabe1987 entered at the wrong time?
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17:16 Cprossu he's in phoenix wannabe1987
17:16 wannabe1987 who
17:17 Cprossu splint
17:17 CaptainNiobe|AFK oh, btw, weed, it's goodnight for this 'stralian, not hi... :P :D g'night
17:17 wannabe1987 hi CaptainNiobe|AFK, night!
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17:17 CaptainNiobe|AFK hai wannabe1987 bai :P
17:17 Cprossu you missed a small bit of conversation wannabe1987
17:17 Cprossu [10:16] <Cprossu> it's another phoenix person, this makes me happy.
17:17 Cprossu [10:16] * Cprossu high fives splint for running GMT-7 without any DST bullshit!
17:17 Cprossu [10:16] * wannabe1987 (~wannabe@adsl-69-208-74-24.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net) has joined #thegeekgroup
17:17 * Experimentonomen impatiently waits for his arduino, just 3-8 weeks left to go :(
17:17 Seroster Gnite crazy stralian
17:17 wannabe1987 yeah?
17:17 wannabe1987 i know i joined, duh :P
17:17 Seroster Eaten any 'ngroos lately?
17:18 CaptainNiobe|AFK bloody weedy weeds...  :P
17:18 * CaptainNiobe|AFK shoots off to bed before Seroster makes a comeback
17:18 Seroster Horny damn stralians.
17:18 Cprossu tie me 'angaroo down sport, tie me 'angaroo down @ Seroster
17:18 Seroster Yer aint a stralian, seeprossu!
17:18 Cprossu nope
17:19 Cprossu but it is funny still
17:19 SparkyProjects btw Seroster, they are 'Roos
17:19 Seroster CRUD!
17:19 Experimentonomen puppy
17:20 Seroster The entire point was it not being correct thp.
17:20 Seroster tho*
17:20 splint @Experimentonomen why's it take so long to get one?
17:21 Seroster splint, This is irc, not twitter. Just sayin =P
17:21 splint well gosh! you're right!
17:22 wannabe1987 no wai! :P
17:22 wannabe1987 i'm gonna be afk....but wannabe-afk is here too :P (at home....)
17:22 Seroster Dun-Dun-DUUUUN!
17:24 Experimentonomen because them chinese are so slow on shipping
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17:26 Experimentonomen and im impatient since i recently finished a snippet of code which i cannot test until the duino arrives
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17:26 splint There's no way you can test it at all huh? That'd drive me insane
17:28 Experimentonomen tell me about it
17:29 Experimentonomen especially since i spent most of the day figuring out some stuff, considering i had before then never worked with C code
17:30 splint C node?
17:30 Experimentonomen C is a programming language
17:30 splint lol i know, C, never heard of C node.
17:30 splint oh i jsut suck at reading i'm sorry.
17:30 Experimentonomen :P
17:35 wannabe1987 omg need more memory please!
17:38 angy which kind and how much?
17:38 Seroster Wtf BatSteve-Away
17:39 wannabe1987 computer.
17:39 wannabe1987 and more than 1 gig more please....
17:39 wannabe1987 i have 1.66gig now
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18:39 Seroster lol wannabe
18:39 Seroster Hey masterofmonks do you want to hear something fucked up?
18:41 tonsofpcs so, building a board game/rpg inventory system.  is xampp still the quickest way to get php/mysql set up on windows?  any alternate suggestions?
18:42 tonsofpcs anyone already have a db schema for such?  know of a place that i can do automated isbn lookups against?
18:49 masterofmonks Seroster: from you it is all I expect
18:49 Seroster New swedish anti piracy law
18:50 Seroster For every gigabyte of hard drive you buy you have to pay one SEK to the record companies. (up to 80gigs, 80SEK (11bucks))
18:50 Seroster THAT's fucked up.
19:00 tesla4d Wow.
19:01 tesla4d So the record companies get to dip their fingers into a business that they have nothing to do with? How did they convince your government to do that?
19:09 tonsofpcs tesla4d - my guess would be that when the medium started being used by consumers for storing audio, they claimed the equivilant of a patent (just a guess)
19:10 exor674 "magnetic storage media used to store encoded audio waveforms"
19:10 exor674 there's probably some patent on *that*
19:10 exor674 ( I wonder if they get $ for SSDs too :P
19:11 tonsofpcs exor - there is in the US, it's held by dolby iirc
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19:11 tonsofpcs that said, he used tape and some analog encoding scheme (and his patents reflect that)
19:11 exor674 well, I guess I should say "I wonder if they get SEK too"
19:11 lwq1996 hi
19:12 exor674 speaking of tapes
19:12 exor674 I really want ti fogure out where that actual tape player I acquired is
19:12 exor674 and modify it to run off a hand-crank directly on the tape chain
19:12 tonsofpcs as opposed to the virtual one?
19:12 * exor674 wants to play with running the tape at diffrent rates and see what happens
19:12 exor674 I mean, like an actual OMG real tape player
19:13 exor674 given those things are rare fuckers *G*
19:13 tonsofpcs erm, why not just get an adjustable speed set?  or a belt driven set
19:13 tonsofpcs no they're not.  i've got quite a few 7/14 ips machines at work and a ton of enclosed cassettr/cartridge machines
19:14 exor674 because the one I got was free? :P
19:14 exor674 and a adjustable speed one might be harder to find?
19:14 tonsofpcs also, why not just adjust the speed control circuit?
19:15 tonsofpcs do remember, however, that there are both electrical and mechanical components that matter
19:16 exor674 I still need to figure out where I put the damn thing first
19:20 lwq1996 .seen ponko
19:20 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw ponko 16.28 hours ago at 2011-09-17 03:03:03 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:20:06 UTC
19:20 lwq1996 .seen ponko92
19:20 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw ponko92 572.48 hours ago at 2011-08-24 22:51:44 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:20:16 UTC
19:21 SparkyProjects lee, i think he dropped the 92
19:22 lwq1996 i see
19:22 lwq1996 should i drop the 1996 or would my name be two short
19:22 SparkyProjects .seen ponko
19:22 BotSteve SparkyProjects: I last saw ponko 16.33 hours ago at 2011-09-17 03:03:03 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:22:49 UTC
19:29 wannabe1987 keep!
19:30 lwq1996 ok
19:36 wannabe1987 does anyone have any good salsa recipes?
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19:47 lwq1996 toastdude you here
19:47 lwq1996 .seen toastdude
19:47 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw toastdude 19.58 hours ago at 2011-09-17 00:12:23 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:47:14 UTC
19:47 lwq1996 fuck i just ate him
19:48 Seroster lwq1996, You should TOTALLY drop the 1996
19:48 lwq1996 why
19:48 lwq Doesnt that look awesome?
19:48 lwq <
19:48 lwq KICK ASS MATE!
19:48 lwq1996 seroster you are one weird swede
19:49 lwq Guilty as charged =)
19:49 lwq1996 lol
19:49 lwq If possible avoid numbers in nicknames.
19:49 lwq1996 ok
19:49 ajprog_laptop .seen dr_jkl
19:49 BotSteve ajprog_laptop: I last saw dr_jkl 61.63 hours ago at 2011-09-15 06:12:20 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:49:51 UTC
19:49 lwq Hm..
19:50 lwq1996 i could use clony too
19:50 lwq /msg nickserv register ........
19:50 lwq1996 seroster i think you should change back
19:50 lwqqwl That would alsobe nie
19:50 lwqqwl ellweequ cewl < that would be the pronounciation
19:52 Seroster I was hoping you would change YOUR nick to Seroster, and then I could retrieve my nick and be all kickass.
19:53 lwq wtf i cant
19:53 wannabe1987 its cuz Seroster is still Seroster....
19:53 wannabe1987 he needs to change his nick first
19:53 lwq ah
19:53 wannabe1987 ...
19:54 lwq1996 wtf i got a infected cut i havent noticed
19:54 lwq1996 and its one my hand
19:55 * lwq1996 randomly tackle hugs wannabe
19:56 lwq1996 on* not one
19:56 lwq1996 damn i cant speel
19:56 lwq1996 afuck
19:56 lwq1996 fcuk
19:56 lwq1996 I STOP NOW
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19:59 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.kriss-tdi.com/products/kriss-crbso-45-acp.html i want this....
20:00 lwq1996 DRUIDIC YOU CRAZY ASS YOUR BACK
20:00 Druidic_Rifleman Any one know a way to earn 3 grand really fast
20:00 lwq1996 porn star?
20:00 Druidic_Rifleman Male porn starts don't make that much
20:01 lwq1996 be a ginalow
20:01 lwq1996 gigilow*
20:06 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell wannabe-afk to put dc talk on th ecomputer
20:06 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when wannabe-afk is around.
20:12 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&amp;v=YfY1lfFu8j8
20:12 Seroster Eh
20:13 Seroster Erm
20:13 lwq1996 ok masterofmonks is goin to have a baby
20:14 masterofmonks lwq1996: I was unaware that surgery had progressed that far yet.
20:15 lwq1996 ok?
20:15 lwq1996 you put up the link
20:15 masterofmonks I was more implying your physical capabilities.
20:16 masterofmonks And I had misread the is as "im".
20:17 exor674 masterofmonks: uh whut... that's just.... ....
20:18 masterofmonks Fucking disturbing?
20:18 exor674 yes
20:19 wannabe1987 you guys are crazy :P
20:20 masterofmonks And wannabe1987 liked it.
20:20 masterofmonks Also why do we have wannabe-afk and wannabe1987
20:21 wannabe1987 two computers, two houses, two cities?
20:22 masterofmonks But only one wannabe
20:23 exor674 one *awesome* wannabe
20:24 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCSA7kKNu2Y&amp;feature=youtu.be
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20:32 Druidic_Rifleman hmmmm
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20:55 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBTKJHa-W3I&amp;NR=1&amp;feature=fvwp
20:55 Seroster AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGH
20:56 Seroster That is a fucking TRANSFORMER! NOT A MOTOR
20:56 Seroster You inbred fucking jerkoff hillbilly  -.-
20:57 lwq1996 hey ass hole im hill billy
20:57 Seroster But you aint an inbred jerkoff
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21:00 Ponko hello all
21:01 Seroster Hello Ponko
21:01 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBTKJHa-W3I&amp;NR=1&amp;feature=fvwp
21:01 Seroster Watch this and say what you think.
21:03 Ponko thats someone from New Yoik
21:03 Ponko lol
21:03 lwq1996 white copper...is there a such thing
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21:05 lwq1996 ponko actually i think its bostan
21:05 Seroster lwq1996,
21:05 Seroster nnnNO THERE FUCKING SINT
21:05 Seroster ARRRGJ
21:05 Seroster What he COULD be refering to is "cupronickel"
21:05 Ponko lwq1996 you might be right
21:07 Seroster There are NO MOTORS IN TCS
21:07 Seroster I want to headbutt that retard.
21:08 Ponko but lwq1996 i went out with a girl from NY and i know that's an NY accent and he's even wearing a yankees cap
21:08 Ponko nuff said
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21:10 wannabe1987 ...
21:11 wannabe1987 gonna have to sleep early tonight, no sleeping in!
21:11 lwq1996 ah didnt see that
21:11 * wannabe1987 is so tired.....
21:11 wannabe1987 hi lee
21:11 Ponko lol but he's got the same accent as my ex's dad lol
21:11 lwq1996 lol
21:12 Ponko made me laugh
21:12 Ponko damn this guy is FUNNY seroster
21:12 Ponko funny in the stupid way
21:12 Ponko HIT WITH A HAMMER
21:12 lwq1996 funny as a fucking retart way
21:13 * Ponko nods head
21:13 lwq1996 sound like my dad
21:13 lwq1996 he knows nothing
21:13 * wannabe1987 wonders if her mic is on....
21:13 Seroster It's fun in the sense a 85 year old man falls out of his wheelchair and a bus drives over him.
21:13 wannabe1987 yeah, thats not funny
21:14 lwq1996 lol
21:14 Ponko not really Seroster
21:15 Seroster Yeah you are right, the scenario involving the elderly man would at least have ben a little slapstick funny.
21:16 Ponko it would of been typical but sad not funny
21:16 Ponko anyway
21:16 Seroster Exactly my point
21:17 Seroster He beats a crt envelope with a hammer with no safety glasses and says "gas rushes out"
21:17 Ponko that guy could of made more money SELLING the tv
21:17 Ponko $5 bucks for that TV
21:17 Ponko could of got like $20 selling it
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21:18 Seroster Eh
21:18 Seroster Ponko... My hombre...
21:18 lwq1996 not really ponko maby 13 at the most
21:19 Seroster http://www.bortskankes.se/index.asp
21:19 Ponko nah i'd say a bit more
21:19 Seroster That is a page DEVOTED to GIVING AWAY working electronics
21:19 Seroster You can't sell a tv.
21:19 Seroster Its hard to even give away a tv.
21:19 Ponko that actually is true
21:20 lwq1996 lol ik
21:20 Ponko and that site really helps ME
21:20 lwq1996 except a flat screen
21:20 * Ponko nods
21:20 Seroster http://www.bortskankes.se/view.asp?id=12228 36'' free when you pick it up
21:20 Ponko oh that would be very handy
21:20 Seroster http://www.bortskankes.se/view.asp?id=11790 32'' wide
21:20 Ponko IF I LIVED IN SWEDEN
21:20 wannabe1987 lol
21:20 wannabe1987 its not that long of a walk :P
21:21 Seroster http://www.bortskankes.se/view.asp?id=11824 http://www.bortskankes.se/view.asp?id=11824 28'' with a bench
21:21 Seroster Ponko, Craigslist.
21:21 lwq1996 i cant read it its in different language
21:21 Ponko its in Swedish lwq1996
21:21 Ponko well now THAT'S more helpful
21:22 Seroster http://london.craigslist.co.uk/zip/
21:22 Seroster Xbox 360
21:22 Seroster http://london.craigslist.co.uk/zip/2551140396.html Hey look a TV.
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21:23 Seroster http://london.craigslist.co.uk/zip/2541037355.html Computahs
21:23 Seroster http://london.craigslist.co.uk/zip/2534194788.html A few laptops.
21:25 Seroster http://london.craigslist.co.uk/ele/2584868273.html 26'' CRT free
21:25 Seroster http://london.craigslist.co.uk/ele/2576640150.html 23'' free.
21:25 Seroster Want me to get you more, or are you convinced you can get free CRT tvs in a heartbeat?
21:25 Seroster That's just the september section of london. Where did you say you lived?
21:25 lwq1996 hahaha seroster i see your comments
21:26 Seroster lwq1996, Aye.
21:27 Seroster http://london.craigslist.co.uk/app/2549360459.html hey look Ponko-Away! Two Free ACs!
21:27 Seroster http://london.craigslist.co.uk/app/2534594832.html "almost new fridge"
21:28 Ponko-Away don't need an AC its nearing winter
21:28 Seroster Copper or aluminium evaporators
21:28 Seroster Copper compressor
21:29 Ponko-Away those A/Cs aren't free
21:29 Seroster Well, they are <5£
21:29 Ponko-Away one's £50 and another is £75
21:30 Seroster They were listed in <£5
21:32 Ponko-Away lol
21:32 Ponko-Away its not important
21:32 Ponko-Away ANYWAY
21:32 Ponko-Away brb
21:40 Ponko-Away Sythen?
21:40 Ponko-Away http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyKF2qd0-iQ
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21:48 * minecraftdude glomps wannabe1987
21:48 minecraftdude wannabe!
21:49 wannabe1987 what
21:50 wannabe1987 its dinner time....
22:04 Seroster Glomping sounds like some kind of mutilation
22:12 Kafka lol
22:14 Cprossu so anything neat happen @ the lab today ajprog_laptop?
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22:41 lwq1996 does anyone know how to hook up a transformer
22:42 lwq1996 i mean it dont have 2 wires it has 4
22:42 lwq1996 2white and 2red
22:44 lwq1996 im kinda stupid when it comes to this stuff
22:44 lwq1996 its not a mot its a little radio transfromer
22:45 lwq1996 minecraftdude:^
22:45 minecraftdude what?
22:46 lwq1996 are you new
22:46 minecraftdude no
22:47 lwq1996 ok  are you toastdude?
22:49 wannabe1987 no
22:49 wannabe1987 hi minecraftdude!
22:49 lwq1996 ah
22:59 Seroster Damn. This 3ph motor got some nice bearings
23:00 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
23:00 wannabe1987 wtf
23:03 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrnJ11HXr9sLOL!
23:03 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrnJ11HXr9s < proper.
23:10 lwq1996 wow
23:10 lwq1996 his real voice
23:11 wannabe1987 he has a fake voice too?
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23:11 wannabe1987 wrist any b etter?
23:12 * Silentmonster bites exor674
23:12 Katemonster yes
23:12 BotSteve Katemonster: I have the following messages for you:
23:12 BotSteve At 14 Sep 17:36Z, Druidic_Rifleman asked me to Tell Katemonster If i semi nekid chick with a gun could you Identify the Optics mounted onthe rifle?
23:12 Katemonster wrist is much nicer
23:12 BotSteve At 15 Sep 02:24Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell Katemonster that i hope she feels better soon
23:14 wannabe1987 good!
23:15 Katemonster druidic
23:16 Katemonster please stop doing drugs.
23:16 Katemonster your sentences make less and less sense by the hour.
23:16 Katemonster and no, i probably can't identify the scope by looking at it from a distance.
23:16 * exor674 bites Katemonster
23:17 Katemonster rawr
23:17 Seroster Yeah, his real voice, lwq1996
23:17 wannabe1987 Druid's stuff DOESN"T make sense....i was confused (still am) by it
23:18 Katemonster that was kind of my point
23:18 wannabe1987 yep
23:18 Katemonster :ᛒ
23:19 Katemonster hmm.  that's supposed to be teeth but it kind of works for a mustache doesn't it.  =|:ᛒ>
23:22 Katemonster so
23:22 Katemonster have i missed anything important and/or fun?
23:23 Katemonster any more Physics According to Kokona arguments?
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23:23 wannabe1987 o.O
23:23 speedrunnerG55 Hi
23:23 * speedrunnerG55 hugs wannqbe
23:23 * speedrunnerG55 hugs wannabe
23:23 wannabe1987 hi minecraftdude/speedrunner
23:23 speedrunnerG55 And Cprossu ^
23:24 Katemonster speed
23:24 speedrunnerG55 How are you
23:24 * wannabe1987 is special :D
23:24 wannabe1987 she got a speed hug!
23:24 Cprossu Katemonster if there any I've missed it.
23:24 Katemonster for shame.
23:24 Katemonster :/
23:25 Cprossu If I missed it it was simply because I didn't know the instantanious momentum and position at the given time.
23:25 Katemonster LOL
23:26 ajprog_laptop just finishing painting and now we are going to watch chris do some magic
23:26 speedrunnerG55 hi Katemonster
23:26 * Katemonster tackles speed
23:26 Katemonster hi!  :D
23:27 speedrunnerG55 Omg
23:27 * speedrunnerG55 got tackled
23:27 * speedrunnerG55 gets up....
23:27 Katemonster got your ass kicked by a girl.  again.
23:28 speedrunnerG55 Didnt see that comming
23:28 Katemonster at least i didn't stab you in the eye this time
23:28 speedrunnerG55 Ty
23:28 speedrunnerG55 I would like to keep my other eye
23:28 Katemonster pfft they grow back.
23:29 Katemonster ...right?
23:29 Katemonster or maybe that was fingers
23:30 Katemonster i could cut off your left ring finger.  then you'd be able to cosplay assassin's creed for halloween!
23:30 wannabe1987 tails
23:30 Katemonster tails?
23:30 Katemonster we have those?
23:30 * Katemonster checks
23:30 wannabe1987 no.  but they usually grow bac
23:30 * speedrunnerG55 looks at his but
23:31 * speedrunnerG55 sees a tail... O_o
23:31 wannabe1987 back*
23:31 wannabe1987 o.O
23:31 Katemonster LOL
23:31 speedrunnerG55 :3
23:32 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell wannabe-afk to make dough!
23:32 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when wannabe-afk is around.
23:32 speedrunnerG55 :3<~<
23:32 speedrunnerG55 :3<-<~
23:32 wannabe1987 lol
23:34 speedrunnerG55 Dough?
23:34 wannabe1987 pizza dough
23:35 wannabe1987 i make my own vs buying it
23:35 speedrunnerG55 Ohhh
23:36 speedrunnerG55 Thats cool
23:36 speedrunnerG55 Deep dish?
23:36 * speedrunnerG55 likes philidelphia pizza more than new york style
23:36 speedrunnerG55 Lol
23:38 lwq1996 i just made a desktop transformer sparker
23:42 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
23:43 * wannabe1987 shoots nerf gun at speedrunnerG55
23:43 speedrunnerG55 0_o
23:44 * speedrunnerG55 heads for covver
23:44 * speedrunnerG55 gets out his nerf assul rifle
23:45 * speedrunnerG55 runs out tward wannabe wile discharging the rifle
23:45 * wannabe1987 hides behind laundry
23:45 Katemonster now children, play nice
23:45 * speedrunnerG55 runs to a doorway and hides
23:45 * wannabe1987 upturns a tote on her head so noone gets her
23:46 Katemonster blah.  i'm going to go play some Deus Ex
23:46 wannabe1987 ok
23:46 Katemonster later
23:46 wannabe1987 u2
23:46 * speedrunnerG55 seez Katemonster and fires
23:46 speedrunnerG55 Bye Katemonster
23:46 * speedrunnerG55 suddenly wants to play laser tag
23:47 wannabe1987 her quit line was "you missed" lol
23:48 speedrunnerG55 O_o
23:48 speedrunnerG55 Thats awesome
23:48 wannabe1987 lol
23:49 speedrunnerG55 Thnx for pointing that out
23:49 wannabe1987 np
23:49 tesla4d Is there still a Geek Group minecraft server?
23:49 wannabe1987 .minecraft
23:49 BotSteve The 'official' TGG minecraft server address is: gamerxreviews.net **** The server may or may not be down right now.  Try it and let us know.
23:49 speedrunnerG55 I dont think so
23:49 speedrunnerG55 Does that work?
23:50 speedrunnerG55 The last time i checked, it didnt
23:50 speedrunnerG55 And i havnt checked in a wile
23:50 tesla4d I just tried and it says it's an outdated server.
23:51 tesla4d So, it kind of works, I guess?
23:52 wannabe1987 noone's ever said "no"
23:53 speedrunnerG55 No?
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23:58 * Thermoelectric waves to Bat-Mobile. Hai!
23:59 Bat-Mobile ohay thermo!
23:59 Bat-Mobile Howsit?
23:59 speedrunnerG55 Bat-Mobile: !!!!!
23:59 speedrunnerG55 Yaayyyy
23:59 lwq1996 FUCK
23:59 lwq1996 SHOCKED MYSELF AGAIN
23:59 * speedrunnerG55 hifives Bat-Mobile
23:59 Thermoelectric It is good.
23:59 lwq1996 this time striping a wire
23:59 speedrunnerG55 Liquid!!!

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