Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-09-25

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00:10 wannabe1987 :D  jacque is coming over.
00:11 wannabe1987 astro73|derrial you around?  and free
00:11 astro73|derrial yeah, just got home
00:11 wannabe1987 awww you should come over too.  everyone else i invited can't come
00:12 lwq1996 haha sgt_lemming...im messing with it >:D
00:12 Ponko Bat-Mobile you on skype?
00:12 astro73|derrial we've been artprizing all day
00:12 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996, that's what it's there for
00:12 lwq1996 lol i can read the irc
00:13 Sgt_Lemming soon as you close the window or someone else takes control it goes back to home position
00:13 wannabe1987 i was gonna go but then it rained.....
00:13 Sgt_Lemming yeah, insane zoom
00:13 Sgt_Lemming the camera is about 7m vertical, and 9m horizontal from that pc
00:13 Sgt_Lemming so it's a fair distance
00:13 lwq1996 cool
00:13 astro73|derrial we did all the west side stuff
00:13 wannabe1987 cool
00:14 wannabe1987 i need to get out and see more sometime....mayhaps tomorrow
00:15 lwq1996 GAH MY WIRE ON MY TRANSFORMER KEEPS BREAKING...IM DOWN TO HALF AND INCH
00:15 astro73|derrial mayhaps
00:15 wannabe1987 i'm looking at more tuesday....i'm bringing a friend to swing, so we'll be there at 7, cuz he doesn't know how to swing
00:15 lwq1996 any idea on what to do with my problem
00:17 wannabe1987 get moar wire?
00:18 lwq1996 its on the transformer
00:18 wannabe1987 astro73|derrial you still planning on monday night dinner?
00:19 Ponko hmmm
00:19 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996, that's about a $2'500 webcam btw :-P
00:20 lwq1996 KNEW THAT WAS A TAP SET
00:20 lwq1996 LOL
00:20 * angy brew a tea for P'ky
00:20 lwq1996 why suck an expensive camera
00:20 KernelTrap this wasn't registered somehow
00:20 KernelTrap keeping it
00:21 lwq1996 such
00:21 lwq1996 sorry
00:21 lwq1996 why; suck and expensive camera sgt_lemming
00:21 Sgt_Lemming 100 degree vertical range, 340 degreee horizontal range
00:21 Sgt_Lemming it was free :-P
00:21 lwq1996 lol i see
00:21 lwq1996 you cheap bastard
00:21 lwq1996 jk
00:21 Sgt_Lemming one of the guys got given it by work, because the "corrections" department over here was getting rid of it
00:22 Sgt_Lemming it has some dead pixels...
00:22 Sgt_Lemming there are like 3 we can see
00:22 lwq1996 lol
00:23 lwq1996 still its a good cammera
00:23 Sgt_Lemming yeah, tis awesome
00:23 Sgt_Lemming it was down in the corner till I moved it
00:23 lwq1996 yeah...i was looking at the tap set u guys had
00:24 lwq1996 is that your work shop
00:24 Sgt_Lemming that's HSBNE
00:24 Sgt_Lemming HackerSpace BrisBaNe
00:24 lwq1996 ah
00:25 * Sgt_Lemming is current president of it
00:25 lwq1996 hehehe now i can stalk you guys
00:25 Sgt_Lemming go for it
00:25 lwq1996 lol
00:25 wannabe1987 oooo link?  i like stalking people!
00:25 lwq1996 when are peole typicaly there
00:25 lwq1996 lol
00:25 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987 http://space.hsbne.org
00:26 Sgt_Lemming the camera link
00:27 lwq1996 this is all recorded in a server right
00:27 wannabe1987 ooo
00:27 Sgt_Lemming you can see the server that hosts the webpage on that camera
00:28 Sgt_Lemming there are snapshots taken every so often
00:28 lwq1996 lol
00:28 astro73|derrial wannabe1987: my reading isn't bad
00:28 lwq1996 thats there for seeing if peoples there and to capture burlilers?
00:28 astro73|derrial i guess i could swing by
00:29 Sgt_Lemming something like that lwq1996
00:29 wannabe1987 burglers*
00:29 lwq1996 yes
00:29 lwq1996 nice tap set
00:29 Sgt_Lemming thanks
00:30 lwq1996 my dad gots a little old one that his dad gave him
00:30 Sgt_Lemming if you look at the books over on the wall there is a 70 year old copy of the engineers handbook :-P
00:31 lwq1996 lol
00:31 angy do you have a pocket ref?
00:31 lwq1996 lol
00:31 Sgt_Lemming angy, yeah, bit harder to spot that one though
00:32 Sgt_Lemming oh, bonus points to who ever can tell me what the thing on the desk directly below the camera with the stepper motor on it is
00:32 angy pocket ref should be mandatory for a lot of things
00:33 Sgt_Lemming Engineers Handbook > Pocket Ref
00:33 Sgt_Lemming may not be as small, but has some frucking awesome stuff in it
00:33 angy way bigger though
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00:34 lwq1996 idk sgt_lemming
00:34 angy when i'm in the imperial world, I use pocket ref, when I'm in metric, I got way better tools
00:34 Sgt_Lemming my pocket ref is metric :-P
00:34 lwq1996 lol
00:35 angy I never found a metric one
00:35 lwq1996 where can i get one
00:35 angy pocketref.com
00:35 lwq1996 ok
00:35 angy or amazon
00:36 astro73|derrial sorry wannabe1987. Yes i am still planning dinner, with the girl, and i think i can come by tonight
00:37 lwq1996 which pocket ref should i get
00:38 angy http://pocketref.com/merchant.ihtml?pid=321&step=4
00:38 lwq1996 thanks
00:43 wannabe1987 good :D
00:43 wannabe1987 alright
00:43 * wannabe1987 had pocky
00:44 lwq1996 why would someone gold plate LED's
00:45 wannabe1987 idk
00:48 wannabe1987 trying to set up a computer to an ethernet connection, but computer says "connection failed"  any ideas?
00:49 lwq1996 wrong settings
00:50 wannabe1987 no shit
00:51 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, using a modem or router?
00:51 Sgt_Lemming one that does DHCP?
00:52 wannabe1987 using hardwired internet
00:52 Sgt_Lemming not answering the question :-P
00:52 wannabe1987 both
00:53 Sgt_Lemming is it getting a link light on the modem or the computer?
00:53 wannabe1987 no
00:54 Sgt_Lemming if it's not getting that, you need to check/replace your cable
00:54 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
00:54 Sgt_Lemming or the network card in the computer
00:54 wannabe1987 cable worked this am....so i think its the laptop....
00:54 Sgt_Lemming does another computer or a laptop work on the same ethernet cable?
00:54 Sgt_Lemming kk
00:54 Toastdude wannabe1987: !
00:54 wannabe1987 toast!
00:54 wannabe1987 i eated you with nutella this am!
00:54 Sgt_Lemming some laptops can power off the ethernet card to save battery
00:54 Sgt_Lemming lol
00:55 Toastdude Aw...
00:56 wannabe1987 i tried enabling the ether net card and it said it wasn't working properly
00:56 Sgt_Lemming ah
00:57 wannabe1987 so i went into device properties and it wasn't installed properly
00:57 wannabe1987 ....
00:57 Sgt_Lemming ah
00:57 Sgt_Lemming that'd be why
00:57 wannabe1987 yeah
00:57 Sgt_Lemming boot it off an ubuntu live cd and see if it works under that?
00:57 Sgt_Lemming brb
00:57 wannabe1987 i don't think we have a ubuntu live cd........
00:57 lwq1996 install ubuntu?
00:58 KernelTrap do you have a flash drive?
00:58 KernelTrap does the machine boot from USB?
00:58 KernelTrap do you have internet access?
00:58 KernelTrap if all 3 are true, you have every liveCD
00:58 KernelTrap :3
01:00 wannabe1987 KernelTrap no
01:00 wannabe1987 no it deosn't boot from usbn
01:00 wannabe1987 usb*
01:00 KernelTrap blank CDs?
01:00 wannabe1987 no working cd drive on friends computer
01:00 Toastdude Hi KernelTrap
01:04 wannabe1987 so theres another hardwire connection called a 1394 connection...its working properly but still no interwebs
01:06 Toastdude angy ?
01:06 angy Toasty?
01:06 Toastdude Angy!
01:06 * angy hugs Toast
01:06 * Toastdude hugs angy
01:06 wannabe1987 man love....what a wonderful thing :P
01:06 Toastdude :P\
01:07 Toastdude *:P
01:07 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, 1394 is firewire
01:07 Sgt_Lemming you *can* do tcp/ip over firewire
01:07 Sgt_Lemming but you would need another pc with it, and a firewire cable
01:07 wannabe1987 Sgt_Lemming what is firewire?
01:08 Sgt_Lemming similar to USB
01:09 wannabe1987 why can't computers be easy and simple! :P
01:09 Sgt_Lemming what make/model is the laptop?
01:09 Sgt_Lemming and what OS?
01:09 wannabe1987 toshiba satellite, xp
01:09 Sgt_Lemming need a bit more than just satellite
01:10 Sgt_Lemming there are a LOT of satellite laptops :-P
01:10 wannabe1987 astro73|derrial is here now....
01:11 Sgt_Lemming have a look on the label on the bottom
01:11 wannabe1987 a45-s250
01:11 wannabe1987 that?
01:11 Sgt_Lemming that would be it
01:11 Seroster Anyhow
01:12 Seroster I think Ill go to bed now
01:12 Seroster Cya folks, Especially wannabe1987, CaptainNiobe|AFK and KernelTrap <3
01:12 wannabe1987 lol night Seroster
01:13 Toastdude Night Seroster
01:13 Seroster Oh yes, you too Toastdude. Kinda forgot about you. Sorry. =P
01:13 Seroster but I still love you!
01:13 Toastdude Lol, thanks =P
01:14 Sgt_Lemming night Seroster
01:15 Seroster And I still love you too ^^
01:18 Sgt_Lemming http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/support/downloads/Intel100_os2006303a.exe <--- that should be the driver for it wannabe1987
01:19 * angy hugs Toastdude
01:19 * Toastdude hugs angy
01:20 angy time to go back coding!
01:20 Toastdude Yay!
01:20 Toastdude Time to eat food...
01:21 angy also
01:27 wannabe1987 o.O he got a free chromebook!
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01:32 wannabe1987 thanks Sgt_Lemming.  i'll get it to astro73|derrial.  he's here working on it, but jacque is using ruth's puter now
01:34 Sgt_Lemming kk
01:38 wannabe1987 my cake has cream cheese frosting
01:42 wannabe1987 whats with "H2O just add water" ...
01:44 astro73|ellie Sgt_Lemming: it works
01:44 wannabe1987 hi!
01:44 wannabe1987 :P
01:44 wannabe1987 i see you
01:44 astro73|ellie i see you too
01:44 * astro73|ellie waves
01:44 wannabe1987 thats creepy
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01:46 astro73|ellie hi, kitty_cute
01:46 * astro73|ellie waves
01:46 wannabe1987 type /nick kitty_Q
01:54 * wannabe1987 pokes kitty_Q
01:54 kitty_Q *grrr argggg
01:55 * kitty_Q
01:55 * kitty_Q girrrrs
01:55 wannabe1987 are you from invader zim?
01:56 kitty_Q noes. that only has one r
01:56 wannabe1987 ok
01:56 astro73|ellie are you from invader zimmmm?
01:56 wannabe1987 i see what you did there >.<
01:56 lwq1996 and its spelled gir
01:56 wannabe1987 lee we know
01:57 kitty_Q I am gaz
01:57 gir gaz
01:57 Guest29186 WT
01:57 Guest29186 WTF
01:58 wannabe1987 someone took that nick :P
01:58 lwq1996 i dont have to identify when i type lwq1996
01:58 kitty_Q gaz is the purple haired girl from invader zim
01:58 lwq1996 whos the boy
01:58 kitty_Q dib
01:59 lwq1996 i noticed something
01:59 kitty_Q they all have 3 letter names?
01:59 lwq1996 FUCK YOU BEAT ME TO IT
01:59 kitty_Q hahahaha
01:59 wannabe1987 lol
01:59 kitty_Q i noticed forever ago
01:59 lwq1996 i just did after thinking
01:59 wannabe1987 there you go, pissing off the kids :P
01:59 wannabe1987 you thought?!  o.O
02:00 * wannabe1987 tackle hugs lee, astro and kitty_Q
02:00 lwq1996 YAY
02:00 astro73|ellie ah!
02:00 * lwq1996 hugs back
02:00 kitty_Q i no longer have my gir shirt :-(
02:00 * lwq1996 hugs sythen
02:00 * astro73|ellie has been glomped
02:00 injektion I don't think growing my hair out was such a good idea
02:02 lwq1996 why
02:02 injektion It's getting in the way
02:03 lwq1996 i see
02:03 wannabe1987 sythen
02:03 astro73|ellie so?
02:03 astro73|ellie why would that stop you?
02:03 lwq1996 i did that once and liked it till i got glassas
02:03 astro73|ellie get a hat? head band?
02:03 lwq1996 glasses
02:03 Sythen morning all
02:04 wannabe1987 morning brit :D
02:04 * lwq1996 hugs sythen
02:05 * lwq1996 waits for it
02:05 * wannabe1987 slaps lwq1996
02:05 Sythen fuck off lee
02:05 lwq1996 there we go
02:05 lwq1996 i do it just to piss him off :P
02:05 astro73|ellie if you just wanted to be slapped, we could set up a script to do it
02:06 wannabe1987 have BotSteve do it?
02:06 wannabe1987 .cookie kitty_Q
02:06 BotSteve Here you go, kitty_Q, I baked you a lemon sugar cookie!
02:06 astro73|ellie ewww
02:06 astro73|ellie why would i want sour in my cookie?
02:06 Sythen the little safeguards in my head havent kicked in yet, so be careful
02:06 kitty_Q om nom nom nom nom
02:06 kitty_Q fuck my diet
02:07 wannabe1987 thats the spirit dear!
02:07 wannabe1987 want more caek?  its not a lie i promise
02:07 lwq1996 I WANT CRACK
02:07 kitty_Q but i wants coookie
02:07 wannabe1987 crack?
02:07 wannabe1987 i don't have crack
02:07 wannabe1987 ....
02:08 wannabe1987 i wasn't talking about crack
02:08 wannabe1987 i didn't put any in the cake either i promise
02:08 lwq1996 MAKE ME CRACK
02:08 Ponko i wish my fiancee would listen to his commentaries
02:08 lwq1996 jk
02:08 wannabe1987 no
02:08 wannabe1987 i don't know how
02:08 lwq1996 ponko are you a girl
02:09 lwq1996 coca leaves and baking soda
02:09 wannabe1987 why would Ponko be a girl?
02:09 wannabe1987 .....
02:09 Ponko no i meant listen to MY
02:09 * lwq1996 just realised ponko's gay
02:09 lwq1996 OH
02:09 lwq1996 IM STILL GOING TO HARP ON YOU FOR THAT
02:10 wannabe1987 ...........
02:10 wannabe1987 lee stop shouting
02:10 lwq1996 i am
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02:10 Ponko do that and i'll knock you out mate
02:10 wannabe1987 hi toast!
02:10 wannabe1987 om nom nom
02:10 Dib_ :P
02:10 Ponko lol
02:10 * lwq1996 zim
02:11 lwq FUCKER
02:11 InvaderZim D:
02:11 lwq LOL
02:11 lwq YAY
02:11 Toastdude Darn registered nicks...
02:11 astro73|ellie hi toast
02:11 drac joined #thegeekgroup
02:12 Ponko it's funny
02:12 wannabe1987 what?
02:12 wannabe1987 last time i tried to take toasts nick i got kicked....
02:12 Toastdude Fine....
02:12 Ponko the nicks thar are registered
02:13 angy Yay! A super Toast
02:13 Ponko night anyways
02:13 wannabe1987 night brit
02:13 angy night P'ky
02:13 lwq lol
02:13 Ponko :P
02:13 wannabe1987 one brit wakes up, the other goes to bed...wtf
02:13 Ponko who's the other one?
02:13 wannabe1987 Sythen
02:13 Ponko 'e ain't on yet
02:13 toastdude DONT KICK ME SUPER TOAST
02:13 Ponko surely not
02:14 Ponko anyways night all
02:14 Ponko cya angy :)
02:14 SuperToast Then change back toastdude :P
02:14 Ponko wannabe
02:14 Ponko lwq
02:14 wannabe1987 yes
02:14 SuperToast Bye Ponko
02:14 Ponko cya l8r
02:14 wannabe1987 :sneeze:
02:14 Toastdude =P
02:14 Ponko bye Super Bowl Toast
02:14 wannabe1987 LWQ1996 STOP YELLING
02:14 Toastdude Bless you....
02:14 LWQ1996 NEVER
02:15 wannabe1987 :(
02:15 Ponko you want me to deck you mate?
02:15 LWQ1996 IM GOING TO BE LIKE SASHA'S DAD AND ALWAYS TYPE IN CAPS
02:15 Toastdude :O
02:15 wannabe1987 you give sick girl a headach :(
02:15 Toastdude lwq1996: Stp yelling you *************************************
02:15 Toastdude :P
02:15 wannabe1987 lool
02:15 LWQ1996 TOAST YOU KNOW NO SWEAR WORDS
02:16 Ponko eh mate nuff with shaaauuting or i'll smash your bleeting head mate
02:16 Toastdude I do, I just choose not to use them...
02:16 wannabe1987 lol
02:16 Toastdude Lol
02:16 Ponko-Cockney roight leave it ahhht mate
02:16 angy I think I can safely add php, XML and SOAP in my resumé now
02:17 Toastdude Yay
02:17 Toastdude :)
02:17 Ponko-Cockney Strike a light :)
02:18 * Ponko-Cockney LWQ1996 is completely 6s and 7s
02:18 LWQ1996 WHAT?
02:18 Ponko-Cockney your barmy mate
02:18 Ponko-Cockney you're*
02:18 Toastdude Shuddup you ****** lwq
02:18 Toastdude :P
02:18 wannabe1987 hey now
02:18 * LWQ1996 gives ponko a football
02:18 wannabe1987 be nice
02:18 LWQ1996 go play in a corner
02:18 * Toastdude plays in a corner
02:19 Toastdude ...
02:19 Toastdude Sorry wannabe...
02:19 Ponko-Cockney LWQ1996 if you were being this cheeky to me roight naaw i'd smash your ****ing face you ***t
02:19 wannabe1987 .seen Captainboden
02:19 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw captainboden 276.52 hours ago at 2011-09-13 13:48:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:19:55 UTC
02:20 Toastdude :(
02:20 LWQ1996 twat doesnt hurt me
02:20 wannabe1987 .c 276hours to days
02:20 BotSteve 11.5 days
02:20 wannabe1987 .seen astro73|ellie
02:20 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw astro73|ellie 0.14 hours ago at 2011-09-25 02:11:51 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:20:21 UTC
02:20 Ponko yeah i was calling you a twat
02:20 Ponko stupid cunt
02:20 Ponko sorry everyone
02:20 wannabe1987 o.O
02:20 astro73|ellie .seen astro73|derrial
02:20 BotSteve astro73|ellie: I last saw astro73|derrial 1.74 hours ago at 2011-09-25 00:36:10 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:20:48 UTC
02:20 wannabe1987 ponko!  get to nsfw for that!
02:21 LWQ1996 fuck you ponko :P
02:21 Ponko bring it
02:21 * LWQ1996 goest o nsfw
02:21 Toastdude I wanna see this...
02:21 LWQ1996 i was kidding
02:21 LWQ1996 im not even in it
02:22 Toastdude I know
02:22 wannabe1987 lol
02:22 wannabe1987 i know, i didn't see you enter :P
02:22 * Ponko is waiting
02:22 * wannabe1987 gives Ponko a football for while he's waiting
02:22 angy YES! I indented the whole WSDL file!
02:22 * angy puts tea into the football
02:22 wannabe1987 good job angy
02:22 LWQ1996 lol
02:22 wannabe1987 tea IN the football? o.O
02:23 LWQ1996 qhy tho
02:23 Ponko o_O Teeball?
02:23 Ponko anyway
02:23 Ponko i'm going now
02:23 LWQ1996 cuse your a pussy and dont want to fight me :P
02:24 wannabe1987 angy do you use tea leaves or a tea bags?
02:24 Sythen teaball? id watch the shit outta that
02:24 angy depend
02:24 Ponko LWQ1996 you on fb right now?
02:24 kitty_Q the swan is a cat
02:25 LWQ1996 no
02:25 Sythen the swan is a badger
02:25 Ponko well if you want to actually fuck me off then shut up before i shut you up on there
02:26 LWQ1996 ponko...im kidding
02:26 Ponko good
02:26 Ponko i'm tired so don't try it
02:26 LWQ1996 lol
02:26 angy it's a pain to write 243 lines of XML ><
02:26 Ponko i snap easily when tired
02:26 Ponko anyway
02:26 Ponko NIGHT
02:26 angy Bye P'ky
02:26 LWQ1996 night ponky
02:27 Ponko laters angy lee and everyone else who departs me
02:27 Toastdude Night Ponko
02:27 Ponko later Super Bowl Toast
02:27 Ponko :P
02:27 Ponko thats my toast
02:27 Sythen mmmmm toast
02:27 Toastdude :P
02:27 Ponko lol
02:27 Ponko they're dead Sythen
02:27 LWQ1996 lol...why does everyone forget about toast
02:28 Ponko nobody does
02:28 Sythen didnt forget about toast, i just ate some
02:28 LWQ1996 untill he talks
02:28 Toastdude Lol
02:28 Ponko agrees
02:28 Toastdude Thanks Ponko
02:28 Ponko its cool
02:28 Ponko well your not
02:28 Ponko you're toast
02:28 astro73|ellie toast is cool@
02:29 astro73|ellie i put excitement on toast in the paper i'm writing
02:29 LWQ1996 lol
02:29 Toastdude Lol
02:30 Ponko lol i was at a Footy match today and i heard our forward say to goalkeeper this
02:30 Ponko "You're a fucking dickhead."
02:30 Ponko that made my day
02:31 astro73|ellie .fortune
02:31 BotSteve As the trials of life continue to take their toll, remember that there
02:31 wannabe1987 he does!
02:31 wannabe1987 whoa....
02:31 astro73|ellie I wonder where that comes from...
02:31 astro73|ellie .fortune
02:31 BotSteve Different all twisty a of in maze are you, passages little.
02:31 Ponko O_O
02:32 Ponko he's gone to China
02:32 Ponko lol
02:32 astro73|ellie That's ... different
02:32 Ponko night
02:32 wannabe1987 night Ponko
02:32 astro73|ellie .fortune
02:32 BotSteve Machines certainly can solve problems, store information, correlate,
02:32 Toastdude .fortune
02:32 BotSteve IOT trap -- core dumped
02:32 wannabe1987 he stops.  in the middle of the sentance!
02:32 astro73|ellie I wonder what the source of that is
02:32 wannabe1987 batsteve!  fix your damn bot!
02:32 astro73|ellie it doesn't seem like the BSD fortune game
02:32 Sythen you guys need a bofh
02:32 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell batsteve to fix the bot's fortune feature
02:32 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when batsteve is around.
02:35 Toastdude .fortune
02:35 BotSteve I've finally learned what "upward compatible" means.  It means we get to
02:35 Toastdude .fortune
02:35 BotSteve When we write programs that "learn", it turns out we do and they don't.
02:35 astro73|ellie Sythen: no we don't.
02:35 Sythen you do
02:35 Toastdude Lol
02:36 astro73|ellie oh, i thought you meant an actual BofH
02:36 Sythen lol
02:36 wannabe1987 i explained
02:36 wannabe1987 and he understood
02:36 wannabe1987 and all was well
02:36 Sythen on my regular network, we have a bofh bot
02:36 astro73|ellie nice
02:37 Sythen that pits out excuses for tech problems
02:37 astro73|ellie the BSD fortune includes some of the bofh excuses
02:43 kitty_Q we killyed wannabe1987
02:43 astro73|ellie bang!
02:43 wannabe1987 lol
02:43 Toastdude NOOOOO!!!!!
02:43 kitty_Q BANG!
02:46 Toastdude :'(
02:46 wannabe1987 ...
02:46 wannabe1987 poor holey toast
02:46 wannabe1987 he's now WHOLE WHEAT
02:47 Toastdude :|
02:47 wannabe1987 sorry
02:47 Toastdude Lol
02:50 SparkyProjects Q: What is the British name for French Toast ?
02:50 SparkyProjects A: Eggy Bread
02:51 Sythen eggy bread ftw
02:56 wannabe1987 Q:Why did the chicken cross the road? A:He was giving it last rites.
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02:56 Toastdude Q: Why did the microscope disappear?
02:57 wannabe1987 ummmm
02:57 wannabe1987 i dunno
02:57 Toastdude A: I plead the fifth...
02:57 wannabe1987 um
02:57 wannabe1987 stupid teenagers
02:57 astro73|ellie you should ask bot1st for more fortunes
02:58 Toastdude Stupid teenagers?
02:58 wannabe1987 no offense:P
02:58 Toastdude :|
02:58 Toastdude :P
02:59 * wannabe1987 hugs toast
02:59 wannabe1987 he's a good kid
03:00 Toastdude Thanks
03:00 * Toastdude hugs wannabe1987
03:00 angy damnit! I *hate* WSDL
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03:01 wannabe1987 wsdl?
03:01 astro73|ellie it's an API descriptor language, yes?
03:01 angy the descriptor language for SOAP
03:02 angy it's xml, but when you want an array of array, it's quite complex
03:02 angy it forces me to boot windows to have a graphical WSDL editor!
03:03 astro73|ellie poor thing!
03:04 LWQ1996 DAMN I KEEP LOOKING FOR THE PROFILE BUTTON...and then i realise its the picture and the name
03:04 angy I hate when I need porcelain to write simple XML
03:05 wannabe1987 lol poor lee
03:05 LWQ1996 stupid facebook
03:06 LWQ1996 TOAST YOU MAKE A FACE BOOK YET
03:06 Toastdude Nope
03:06 LWQ1996 you need too
03:06 wannabe1987 UNO!!!!!
03:07 Toastdude Tell me if this is not kinda cool.....  http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2CSsdz/www.vectorpark.com/etc/spider.html
03:08 wannabe1987 wtf toast
03:09 Toastdude Lol
03:09 astro73|ellie that's strangely fun
03:09 Toastdude IKR?
03:10 wannabe1987 toast you rock
03:10 kitty_Q I <3 spiders
03:10 wannabe1987 you're strange
03:10 LWQ1996 i made the big thing disappear :P
03:11 Toastdude I like the dog type thing... It lifts up its feet when you put the spider under it...
03:12 wannabe1987 how lee?
03:13 wannabe1987 LWQ1996
03:13 wannabe1987 TALK TO ME
03:14 LWQ1996 put it all the way at the top of the screen
03:14 Toastdude Lol
03:14 LWQ1996 sorry i was talking to my friend
03:14 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbF_ecnlyTk
03:14 LWQ1996 it takes alot of time
03:14 wannabe1987 ic
03:15 wannabe1987 the fuck masterofmonks!?
03:15 wannabe1987 i aint got that time....
03:15 astro73|ellie Are you masocistic?
03:16 masterofmonks No, I'm a sadist.
03:16 angy better choice
03:16 masterofmonks That's why I am making all of you watch it.
03:18 kitty_Q loser
03:18 wannabe1987 lol
03:18 wannabe1987 i aint watching shit
03:21 Toastdude Lol
03:25 wannabe1987 poke
03:27 Toastdude Poke
03:27 angy --mark--
03:35 LWQ1996 poke
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03:37 Toastdude Noo wannabe-afk
03:38 Toastdude Yay
03:38 LWQ1996 YOU MADE HER GO AWAY NICE GOING
03:38 LWQ1996 JK
03:38 LWQ1996 shell be back
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03:38 wannabe-afk wtf
03:38 wannabe-afk anyway
03:39 Toastdude Yay
03:39 Toastdude :p
03:39 * wannabe1987 watches hackers w/ astro73|ellie and kitty_q
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03:47 wannabe1987 hi LWQ1996
03:52 angy I want to commit murder
03:52 Sythen mmmmm, fruit
03:54 wannabe1987 angy why?!
03:54 wannabe1987 :(
03:54 Sythen im sencing code rage
03:54 * LWQ1996 wants to be dead
03:54 LWQ1996 there you can kill me
03:55 wannabe1987 no don't diE :(
03:55 angy never ever try to create shortcut to code
03:55 angy it end up deadly traps
03:55 wannabe1987 lol
03:55 LWQ1996 lol
03:56 Sythen nom nom, that peach was nice
03:56 angy I created a meta function in my WSDL, then forgot it... so it borked all the subsequent function
03:56 masterofmonks http://i.imgur.com/ei9u5.jpg
03:57 angy AI is broken, it's manual currenlty
03:58 angy WSDL is way too rigid to try shorcuts
03:59 dr_jkl merde
03:59 angy jkl: here http://dv.komput.net/sa/
03:59 angy try that
03:59 dr_jkl im drunk!
03:59 angy not a problem
04:00 dr_jkl my birthsay is officially ovr
04:00 LWQ1996 ummmm its asking for a card
04:00 angy and I even emailed it to you yesterday :)
04:08 wannabe1987 dr_jkl had a birthday?
04:09 Sythen looks like it
04:10 wannabe1987 cool
04:10 wannabe1987 .wkik stuxnet
04:10 wannabe1987 .wkik stux net
04:10 Sythen i dont need parties, i have tea
04:11 dr_jkl yes
04:11 dr_jkl i turned 27 on the 24th
04:12 LWQ1996 happy belated birthday
04:12 wannabe1987 yay!!!!
04:12 wannabe1987 happy bithday
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04:16 wannabe1987 Toastdude
04:17 Toastdude wannabe1987
04:17 wannabe1987 wb
04:17 wannabe1987 now theres two of you again
04:17 Sythen lol
04:18 Toastdude Yep...
04:18 Toastdude Lol
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04:38 angy If you want a new mean to hurt yourself, I encourage to learn WSDL
04:39 LWQ1996 im so bored
04:40 wannabe1987 i keep attempting to talk to you but you never respond :(
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04:41 LWQ1996 thats ff for you
04:53 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fogbTFbYt6c&amp;feature=related
04:53 Toastdude Bye all
04:53 angy byt Toastdude
04:54 LWQ1996 bye toasty
04:54 wannabe1987 night
04:55 angy I /won/!
04:55 angy you can know choose between too jobs in the alpha of bocsy
04:55 angy either murder of cleanup
04:56 angy s/of/or
04:56 tonsofpcs hmm?
04:56 tonsofpcs what'd you win?
04:56 angy the WSDL descriptor for an array of array
04:57 angy in fact, a object that is constitute of two abstract object, themselves arrays of strings
04:57 tonsofpcs I lost you at "the"
04:57 tonsofpcs :D
04:57 angy :)
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04:57 LWQ1996 lol me too
04:58 angy that
04:58 angy http://dv.komput.net/sa/
04:58 angy in building/login
04:59 angy the tiny list
05:00 angy or the new huge list :p
05:00 angy I just committed the final code
05:04 Hackbat_Win8 any of TGG's staff around?
05:04 wannabe1987 no.  i hope not, its 1am
05:05 Hackbat_Win8 okay anyone that has worked with their network around?
05:05 tonsofpcs Hackbat_Win8: maybe.
05:05 tonsofpcs (again, hopes nots, 1am, etc)
05:05 tonsofpcs also *checks woot*
05:06 LWQ1996 is there something wrong with the website again?
05:06 Hackbat_Win8 I have two solid metal Netgear 10base-T 10mbps 4 port Hubs
05:06 Hackbat_Win8 I was wondering if they could use them
05:07 LWQ1996 probally could find a use for them if not they can put them in the cafe so people can learn how to use them
05:08 Hackbat_Win8 They have BNC connectrs on the back :P
05:09 LWQ1996 lol
05:09 Hackbat_Win8 also the case is made out of 1 peice of metal
05:09 Hackbat_Win8 folded to form a box
05:10 LWQ1996 cool
05:10 Hackbat_Win8 they require two 5v 800mv wall warts though
05:10 LWQ1996 would you let them go through thumper
05:10 LWQ1996 or atleast one
05:10 Hackbat_Win8 maybe
05:10 wannabe1987 LWQ1996 your friends need better browsers
05:10 LWQ1996 ik they do
05:10 LWQ1996 im going to try sifari tomorrow
05:11 Hackbat_Win8 he said better D:<
05:11 Hackbat_Win8 or she
05:11 Hackbat_Win8 well win8 can go die in a fire
05:12 LWQ1996 why
05:12 Hackbat_Win8 IMPOSSIBLE to get my networked printers installed
05:12 wub can everyone get to http://art.zehavi.org/
05:12 wub Either the internet is exploding or I'm having a stupid DNS issue
05:13 Hackbat_Win8 http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
05:13 Hackbat_Win8 up for me
05:13 Hackbat_Win8 what DNS?
05:13 Hackbat_Win8 I suggest 8.8.4.4
05:13 angy don't go google
05:13 angy use opendns
05:14 Hackbat_Win8 Open dns is good for blocking porn
05:14 wub Ok, I don't care what DNS server you use - I meant maybe I set it up incorrectly ;)
05:14 angy it's way better than being profiled by google
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05:14 Hackbat_Win8 but I preffere the secondary google DNS
05:14 wub can everyone resolve art.zehavi.org ?
05:14 * wub smiles.
05:14 Hackbat_Win8 Oh really? google doesn't know I look up porn yet?
05:14 angy yes
05:14 angy 1:14 ygm@Optus-Aktor-Prime ~% dig +short SOA art.zehavi.org
05:14 angy zehavi.org.
05:14 angy ns1.zehavi.org. admin.zehavi.org. 13 10800 3600 86400 43200
05:14 BatSteve sup
05:14 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
05:14 BotSteve At 24 Sep 22:06Z, Bat-Mobile asked me to tell BatSteve http://dv.komput.net/gitweb/index.cgi?p=bocsy;a=summary
05:14 BotSteve At 02:32Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell BatSteve to fix the bot's fortune feature
05:15 BatSteve .fortune
05:15 BotSteve The program isn't debugged until the last user is dead.
05:15 BatSteve wannabe1987: what's wrong with it?
05:15 Hackbat_Win8 .fortune
05:15 BotSteve Welcome to boggle - do you want instructions?
05:15 wannabe1987 it was giving partial sentances
05:15 wannabe1987 .fortune
05:15 BotSteve At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer you will find
05:15 wannabe1987 see?
05:15 wannabe1987 partial sentance
05:15 BatSteve Does it only happen when you do it?
05:16 Hackbat_Win8 .fortune
05:16 BotSteve %DCL-MEM-BAD, bad memory
05:16 wannabe1987 no, astro73|ellie did it earlier and got a partial
05:16 Hackbat_Win8 wait can I PM him?
05:16 BatSteve yep
05:16 BatSteve the bot responds to PM
05:16 Hackbat_Win8 okay good less spam during test
05:17 BatSteve Hackbat_Win8: the bot also lives in #tgg-bots
05:17 BatSteve which is available for botspamming
05:17 Hackbat_Win8 ckbat_Win8> .fortune
05:17 Hackbat_Win8 <BotSteve> As the trials of life continue to take their toll, remember that there
05:17 Hackbat_Win8 gave me that
05:17 wannabe1987 yep
05:17 tonsofpcs Hackbat_Win8: are they T + TX (BNC and RJ?) or just BNC?
05:18 Hackbat_Win8 tonsofpcs: it has bnc on the back and 4 RJ on the front
05:18 tonsofpcs Hackbat_Win8: they could be useful as spares (or in-use) for the master control switcher control system.
05:19 Hackbat_Win8 here http://support.netgear.com/app/products/model/a_id/2343
05:19 tonsofpcs the main network is all modern stuff but the MC stuff is thin-net and controlled by a relatively modern PC.  Cprossu would know more if he's awake
05:22 Hackbat_Win8 I need to send a flashdrive so I figured I'd throw in a few things
05:23 tonsofpcs you need to send a flash drive?
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05:23 angy I still haven't receive your key BatSteve :)
05:24 BatSteve angy: how strange, I sent it earlier today, or I thought I did
05:24 angy and I look into it, you can't for using http or git protocol, I have not setup the latter and the former is broken by lighttpd
05:24 Hackbat_Win8 they need 512 MB flashdrives donated
05:25 Hackbat_Win8 well anthing sub 1 gig
05:26 lwq why do they need that many
05:26 BatSteve angy: don't worry about it then
05:27 angy you won't be sad?
05:27 Hackbat_Win8 lwq cnc gear needs small flashdrives
05:27 tonsofpcs 0011100101
05:27 BatSteve No.  I'll download the snapshot and then push it to GitHub
05:27 BatSteve and then you can push your changes to me there if you want
05:27 angy naah, I'm going to look into it tomorrow
05:27 tonsofpcs I should see if I still have a case of 128 MB station flash drives... can probably send a tray of them...
05:28 tonsofpcs I used a bunch of them though
05:28 BatSteve wannabe1987: I figured it out.  The problem is that the bot is trying to hit enter to send the next line of the quote, but IRC is interpreting it as "oh, the bot wants to send the quote now"
05:28 BatSteve Let's see if I can fix it.
05:29 angy and kernel.org still down :(
05:30 wannabe1987 ahhh
05:30 wannabe1987 thanks BatSteve
05:31 wannabe1987 well, astro73| and kitty_q are on their way home.....
05:31 lwq tonsofpcs...could on be used for a ubuntu live cd or linux mint or damn small linux
05:31 wannabe1987 we went into astro's  channel on freenode and played uno
05:32 BatSteve astro has an uno bot?
05:32 BatSteve awesome!
05:33 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
05:34 lwq tonsofpcs?
05:34 wannabe1987 yes he does
05:34 wannabe1987 he wrote all the code himself
05:34 wannabe1987 :D
05:36 lwq grrr
05:36 tonsofpcs lwq: hmm?
05:36 * lwq wonders if tonsofpcs is buisy
05:36 lwq whoops
05:36 tonsofpcs busy, distracted, whatever :-p
05:37 lwq lol
05:37 lwq what is the size of ubuntu when installed
05:37 tonsofpcs huge
05:37 Hackbat_Win8 If they think they can use these hubs and they WON'T be thumper food I'll send the Powersupplies for them too
05:38 tonsofpcs Hackbat_Win8: talk to Cprossu and yNos|away
05:38 * BatSteve reactivates the bot
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05:38 BatSteve wannabe1987: try it now
05:38 wannabe1987 .fortune
05:38 BotSteve Real programmers don't write in BASIC.  Actually, no programmers write in BASIC after reaching puberty.
05:38 wannabe1987 .fortune
05:38 BotSteve It's multiple choice time...  What is FORTRAN?  a: Between thre and fiv tran. b: What two computers engage in before they interface. c: Ridiculous.
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05:38 Hackbat_Win8 okaaaaay
05:38 Hackbat_Win8 yeah
05:38 Hackbat_Win8 Fuck win8
05:38 wannabe1987 seems to work now, thanks BatSteve
05:38 wannabe1987 welcome back BotSteve
05:39 Hackbat_Win8 ;3; you seemed so nice
05:39 BatSteve Happy to help kelly
05:39 Hackbat_Win8 yet you stab me in the back
05:39 Hackbat_Win8 I said "KK" and it crashed
05:39 wannabe1987 lol
05:39 Hackbat_Win8 pchat that is
05:39 wannabe1987 what if you were to say "kkk" :P
05:39 * lwq is still waiting for an answer
05:39 Hackbat_Win8 kkk
05:39 Hackbat_Win8 see
05:39 Hackbat_Win8 kk
05:39 Hackbat_Win8 oh my
05:39 Hackbat_Win8 well w/e
05:40 lwq you can tell im not pasent
05:40 lwq pacient
05:40 lwq how ever the hell you spell it
05:40 lwq WANNABE...I NEED HELP SPELLING
05:40 Hackbat_Win8 still has enough loose crap to make stuff crash
05:40 lwq hack bat how much space does ubuntu take up when installed on a flash drive
05:40 wannabe1987 patient*
05:40 * wannabe1987 was called the tgg mom today :S
05:41 wannabe1987 or the irc mom
05:41 lwq lol
05:41 Thermoelectric What's so bad about that?
05:41 Thermoelectric Means you look after the channel. :)
05:41 lwq she does so dearly -hugs wannabe- :)
05:41 wannabe1987 i know.  i help people with their spelling too :)
05:42 wannabe1987 as long as i didn't have to give birth to any of you, i'm good :D
05:42 lwq lol
05:43 wannabe1987 and with that this "mom" is going to bed....i'm sick and i want to get better damnit!
05:43 wannabe1987 no alarm for tomorrow, church can wait, i need to be healthy
05:43 wannabe1987 night lwq
05:43 wannabe1987 night angy
05:43 lwq -hugs- you do need better
05:44 angy BatSteve: still here?
05:44 wannabe1987 night Thermoelectric
05:44 * tonsofpcs nees to go to sleep, cable guy here in the AM
05:44 angy night wannabe1987
05:44 wannabe1987 night tonsofpcs
05:44 BatSteve angy: yep, still here
05:44 angy try pulling over http
05:44 wannabe1987 night all :)
05:44 tonsofpcs g'nite g'nite
05:44 lwq tonsofpcs do you got an answer
05:44 BatSteve okay
05:44 BatSteve I'll try that
05:45 wannabe1987 lwq sleep good.
05:45 lwq ok wannabbe
05:45 angy erm.. not, I broke it all
05:45 lwq i will
05:45 wannabe1987 o and i was throughly creeped out in tgg_NSFW today.....
05:45 wannabe1987 :shudder;
05:45 wannabe1987 :*
05:45 masterofmonks seroster?
05:45 lwq i could creep you out better wannabe if you want
05:46 wannabe1987 part seroster, part kernal someone or another
05:50 angy btw, did you tried using git protocol Nazca ?
05:51 angy not you, BatSteve !
05:51 lwq me?
05:51 angy BatSteve not the one I ripped shen I tried to type a B
05:55 angy that should work over git protocole
05:55 angy git clone git://...
05:56 BatSteve right
05:56 BatSteve but git clone http://dv.komput.net/bocsy  fails
05:56 angy that'd normal
05:56 angy I have to do some voodoo rewrite for lighttpd
05:56 angy but since the git protocol works, I won't :)
05:57 angy I think you can't push using the git protocol, I'll have to pull from you
06:00 BatSteve aha
06:00 BatSteve angy: whatever you did, it works now
06:00 BatSteve thank you!
06:00 angy :)
06:00 angy please sign before requesting pull
06:02 angy you can pull the alpha-1 tag, it should be the head of the repo anyway
06:03 angy I tend to sign using 509220C0
06:03 angy on pgp.mit.edu
06:03 angy when it works :p
06:05 BatSteve ok
06:05 BatSteve I'll see if I can import that key
06:05 BatSteve I forget my key, but it starts B2D2 I think
06:05 angy :)
06:05 angy that one is kind of new
06:05 angy I change the email I use for git a few hours ago
06:06 lwq batsteve what is the size of ubuntu after instalation
06:07 BatSteve angy: ygm git key?
06:07 angy yep
06:08 BatSteve awesome
06:08 BatSteve lwq: Not sure.  Have you tried to look it up?
06:09 lwq google is hopless for me becuase it seems not to want to work with me today
06:09 BatSteve Bummer.
06:12 angy now, I just signed the alpha-1 for bocsy and bocsy-standalone
06:12 angy s/now/there/
06:14 angy BatSteve: I see on your github page that you use git for the branches :)
06:16 BatSteve yep, that's correct
06:17 BatSteve I am not an expert, but I know almost enough to get the job done
06:17 angy git is to use branches and distribution
06:17 angy if you got one of theses, you're up
06:17 lwq i cant find shit on the size
06:19 angy BatSteve: your forked the 2 main projects?
06:20 BatSteve angy: [steve@rosie angy]$ ls bocsy bocsy-standalone/
06:20 BatSteve bocsy:classes  htdocs
06:20 BatSteve bocsy-standalone/: button.css  images   index.php  logout.php  nic.php    support.php  ttrack.php home.php    include  login.php  menu.php    style.css  tlogin.php
06:20 angy that's it
06:20 angy you got all
06:20 BatSteve good deal
06:21 angy now I really have to write the documentation of the functions
06:21 angy you'll see in the bocsy that there are really 2 code convention
06:22 angy one for bocsy.php and another one for all other files
06:23 angy like usual, don't hesitate to spellcheck ( :) ) or ping me for questions
06:23 BatSteve haha ok
06:24 BatSteve I am not a PHP expert, I'll be lucky to understand half of what's here
06:24 angy don't worry with the waiver files in bossy/htdocs, they are no use currently
06:24 angy some of the coding is quite nifty (or weird)
06:26 angy and if you understand the bossy.wsdl file, you got a head start of reading the rest of the files
06:28 BatSteve ok
06:32 lwq botsteve: tell tonsofpcs lwq1996 want to know how much he would want for one of those 512mb flashdrives
06:32 BotSteve lwq: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
06:34 lwq botsteve: tell tonsofpcs sorry i mean 128mb flashdrives
06:34 BotSteve lwq: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
06:34 angy can you use the bot to tell the bot?
06:35 BatSteve BotSteve: tell BotSteve something
06:35 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
06:35 lwq botsteve: tell botsteve hi botsteve
06:35 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
06:35 angy that's sad
06:35 lwq lol
06:36 lwq batsteve you bot is funny and amazing
06:36 BatSteve Thanks!
06:36 angy every time I tried to use it, I crashed it
06:36 lwq lol
06:36 lwq botsteve should you hate angy
06:36 BotSteve Nope
06:37 lwq botsteve do you hate angy
06:37 lwq botsteve he need to repsonds to do's
06:37 BatSteve good idea
06:37 lwq lol
06:38 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
06:38 masterofmonks You should code it.
06:38 lwq now botsteve will be hating people
06:38 lwq lol
06:38 lwq easy code fix
06:38 lwq so when you say botsteve: break time he shuts down?
06:38 BatSteve yep
06:38 lwq only you?
06:39 lwq just wondering...im not mean enough to do that
06:39 lwq batsteve doesnt want to answer so i guess its a yes
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06:40 masterofmonks Do you think he is silly enough to leave that available to everyone?
06:41 BatSteve pardon me?
06:41 BatSteve oh, no, it's not available to everyone
06:41 BatSteve owner-only command
06:41 BatSteve you're welcome to try it though
06:41 BatSteve Unrelated, I met a baby repo woman today.
06:41 BatSteve She works for child protective services
06:42 angy she wants your bot?
06:43 BatSteve Nope, just a beer.
06:43 angy (:
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06:48 * BatSteve reactivates the bot
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06:48 BatSteve BotSteve: do you now respond properly to "do" commands?
06:48 BotSteve Yep!
06:48 BatSteve excellent.
06:48 lwq botsteve do you hate angy
06:48 BotSteve No way
06:49 lwq lol
06:49 lwq there we go
06:49 angy :)
06:49 lwq thanks bats
06:49 BatSteve Happy to help.
06:50 lwq botsteve: break time
06:50 Experimentonomen *yawn* guten morgen peepz
06:50 lwq damn
06:51 lwq its now decided i will use dsl for my second os
06:52 BatSteve howdy Experimentonomen
06:54 Electricguy LOL! minecraft humor! :P http://www.n0.se/f/n/10dd6_When_You_see_it_.jpg
06:55 lwq ok im going to bed...night
07:00 BatSteve ahaha, I see it
07:00 lwq-sleeping i saw it at after 5sec of looking at it
07:01 lwq-sleeping i better hit the hay
07:01 * lwq-sleeping punches the hay
07:02 * lwq-sleeping is in bed
07:02 Electricguy when you ssssSSSsee it you'll ssSSShit blockSSSsSSs....BOOM!!!
07:03 * Experimentonomen sneaks behind the creeper and pulls the fuse out
07:04 angy time to go!
07:04 angy See ya!
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07:12 BatSteve The bot left the room?
07:12 BatSteve Really?
07:13 Risk1710 hey
07:14 BatSteve hi Risk1710
07:14 BatSteve What's new?
07:15 Risk1710 just watching video's and researching ideas =)
07:17 BatSteve Cool
07:17 BatSteve Like what?
07:17 Cprossu BatSteve when did it become sentient?
07:18 Risk1710 more studio gear, trying to find out which one would suite my needs more. Converting my parents garage which is bigger then my house into a studio
07:18 Risk1710 =)
07:19 Cprossu I wish I had a garage bigger than my house, I'd put a rotary lift in it and a really nice tig welder
07:19 BatSteve Cprossu: I think about the same time that I started spending more time away from it.
07:19 Cprossu I only have a carport =(
07:19 Risk1710 hmm i was lucky
07:20 Cprossu I do have a '89 dodge caravan turbo though that I need to rebuild for my evil purposes.
07:21 Cprossu Risk1710 what mics have you looked into?
07:24 killakee good morning guys and gals
07:24 BatSteve hi killakee
07:24 Cprossu good night killakee still
07:24 Cprossu well morning I suppose would count
07:24 Cprossu damn time flies
07:25 BatSteve yep
07:25 BatSteve .t edt
07:25 BatSteve balls
07:25 * BatSteve resets the bot
07:25 Cprossu BatSteve hah hah hah
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07:25 BatSteve .t edt
07:25 BotSteve Sun, 25 Sep 2011 03:25:51 EDT
07:25 BatSteve there
07:26 BatSteve If the bot dies again, leave me a tell.
07:26 BatSteve (:
07:26 Cprossu .sandwich BatSteve
07:26 BotSteve IndexError: no such group (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/tgg.py", line 250, in give_sandwich)
07:26 killakee your bot ?
07:26 BatSteve yep
07:26 killakee ah :)
07:26 BatSteve Cprossu: lwq has not yet fixed the sandwich module
07:26 BatSteve I could do it, but then he wouldn't learn anything
07:27 Cprossu sandwiches will never be given out. =.(
07:27 killakee sandwich module .. i want one of those :D
07:27 BatSteve Unfortunately, that is correct.
07:27 BatSteve At least until I generalize everything into one unified food module
07:27 BatSteve which is on the list, as soon as I get motivated enough to do it.
07:28 Cprossu BotSteve: will BatSteve actually make a unified food module?
07:28 BotSteve Oh yeah!
07:28 Cprossu you're stuck now.
07:28 BatSteve BotSteve: will it take a while?
07:28 BotSteve Not a chance
07:28 BatSteve well then
07:28 Cprossu you're really stuck now.
07:28 BatSteve Apparently I have to do it and it's easy.
07:28 BatSteve Good to know.
07:28 killakee owned by your own bot :)
07:29 BatSteve Happens more often than you'd think.
07:29 BotSteve I'll say.
07:29 BatSteve aight, have a good night everyone
07:30 * Experimentonomen kinda wonders how large of a flash memory a microprocessor would need to bring one of those cartoon super hero robots into reality
07:31 Risk1710 i am getting a wide range lol
07:33 Risk1710 the first mics i am lookings at are neumann buying two 102 tm's , neumann u87 and set of tlm 103
07:33 Risk1710 then i already got a fair few other brands
07:33 Risk1710 like rode nt2a's i use for foley
07:33 Risk1710 few shures
07:34 Risk1710 their all good for certain things
07:34 killakee what kind of studio are you making ?
07:34 Risk1710 even in the price differences any can make the sound u want
07:34 Risk1710 im building two inside ones more film foley studio the other one is a music mixing and recording studio
07:35 killakee the neumann mics are insanely xpensive here in norway
07:35 Risk1710 yeah its costing me a arm and a leg =_=
07:35 killakee heh yes a studio takes some boddyparts .. been there done that :P
07:36 Risk1710 yep xD
07:36 Risk1710 but its what you do for a passion =)
07:36 killakee i lost my studio in a fire :/
07:36 Risk1710 shit
07:36 Risk1710 insolation light up?
07:36 killakee yes it
07:37 Risk1710 thats the one thing you have to be careful off
07:37 killakee well it was electrical fire :/
07:37 Risk1710 wiring around insulation
07:37 Risk1710 you have insurance ?
07:38 killakee yes i am in the new house now thank god
07:38 Risk1710 you rebuilding a studio??
07:39 killakee heh.. well yes thats the plan..
07:39 Risk1710 good luck =)
07:39 Risk1710 what you use your studio for more music?
07:39 killakee get my radio station online again ..
07:39 killakee radio station
07:39 killakee ;)
07:40 killakee and ofcourse music mixing and editing
07:40 Risk1710 =)
07:40 Risk1710 you studied sound engineering?
07:41 Risk1710 or self tought
07:41 killakee self tought
07:41 Risk1710 nice
07:41 Risk1710 got any samples of your work?
07:41 killakee i worked in a local radio station here in norway for 2 years
07:43 killakee if i got enny samples ? well no :( it whent like Cheech and Chong: Up in Smoke
07:43 Risk1710 xD
07:43 Risk1710 thats would be upsetting
07:43 Risk1710 what type of station?
07:44 killakee it was radio chat and music mostly.. and some quiz stuff
07:45 killakee realy fun while it lasted :P
07:46 Risk1710 ok cool
07:46 Risk1710 =)
07:48 killakee brekfast time ..
07:48 killakee have a good one
07:48 killakee :)
07:48 killakee^afk see you aruond
07:49 Risk1710 take care =) speak to you later
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09:40 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6dHVt40PrU
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10:29 Sythen for once, my home is finally clean
10:40 Experimentonomen hm
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11:27 BotSteve All right, show us on the doll where Seroster touched you.
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11:58 Seroster Ey Electricguy.
11:58 Seroster Were you messing around with mots in a recent video?
11:59 Electricguy several videos ago
11:59 Seroster then it was Experimentonomen
12:09 Experimentonomen ?
12:16 Seroster You were fucking around with a mot
12:16 Seroster In a video
12:16 Seroster That uploaded today?
12:16 Seroster HF HV
12:17 Experimentonomen just a boredom bldc motor/alternator setup
12:18 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6dHVt40PrU <-- i assume u mean this one
12:19 Seroster yep
12:19 Seroster You were still fucking around with a mot =P
12:20 Experimentonomen bored on a sunday
12:20 Experimentonomen i burned out a hdd motor with the alternator output as well
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12:39 Sasha___ Oh hai
12:49 tlockley hey
12:55 Sythen .minecraft
12:55 BotSteve The 'official' TGG minecraft server address is: gamerxreviews.net **** The server may or may not be down right now.  Try it and let us know.
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12:56 Experimentonomen what version is the TGG mc server, 1.7.3, 1.8.1 ?
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12:56 Sythen 1.7.3
12:58 Sythen i think its offline
12:59 tlockley who runs the MC server?
12:59 Sythen zozo
12:59 tlockley zozo?
13:01 Sythen yup
13:01 Sythen apparently
13:01 tlockley huh, is there a thread in the forum?
13:01 Sythen i dont know
13:02 tlockley well not that it matters too much as i still cant get a working forum account
13:03 Sythen the only decent server ive seen so far is the one Sgt_Lemming hosts
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13:03 Sgt_Lemming woot
13:03 Sgt_Lemming thanks :-D
13:03 Experimentonomen hm
13:03 Sythen but i forgot how to get on it lol
13:04 Sgt_Lemming minecraft server?
13:04 Sythen yup
13:04 Sgt_Lemming ifami.dyndns.org
13:04 Experimentonomen i may get a 1.7.3 minecraft.jar and check out your servers
13:04 Sgt_Lemming server is update to 1.8.1 now
13:04 Sythen oooo
13:04 Sythen lovely
13:04 Experimentonomen im on 1.9 already
13:05 Sythen its easy to roll back from the prerelease
13:05 tlockley Sgt_Lemming: what style of server do you run?
13:06 Sgt_Lemming survival
13:06 tlockley cool
13:06 Sgt_Lemming but heavily anti-griefing and also family friendly
13:06 Sgt_Lemming started by a mate of mine and he is still main admin, but starting to do more and more of it myself
13:06 tlockley cool. I was thinking of getting a new build server up and running
13:07 Experimentonomen im forcing an update to roll bad to current official release
13:07 Experimentonomen back*
13:08 Sythen i do need to find a build server with a better connection
13:08 Sgt_Lemming yeah, we had that problem
13:08 tlockley well if there is interest, i will get my build server up and running again
13:08 Sgt_Lemming now we have the problem of the server it's on can't handle the load
13:08 Sgt_Lemming not with our full load of plugins anyway
13:08 Sythen im interested in finding a decent build server
13:09 tlockley well i need to do some reasearch to find some better plugins, but usuially when i do a build, it includes like a magic carpet or flying cloud plugin for easy building
13:09 tlockley would you want world edit aswell?
13:10 Sythen the way i used to do it, was to allow everyone to use toomanyitems
13:10 Sgt_Lemming tlockley, no worldedit, item spawn or flying on our srever
13:10 Sythen and zombes fly mod
13:10 Sgt_Lemming and people still build some impressive stuff
13:10 Sythen creeper explosion protection
13:10 Sythen and chop tree
13:10 Sgt_Lemming you should see my base actually, built entirely legit, and some awesome stuff in there
13:10 tlockley indeed, you can do some sweet work on a survival
13:11 tlockley but i have never been one to like the survival idea
13:11 tlockley i do want to get into multiworld stuff soon
13:11 Sgt_Lemming we have 4 worlds atm
13:11 Sgt_Lemming thinking about adding more, but need better server first
13:12 tlockley what are you running on?
13:12 Sythen i might be something that we can all look into together
13:12 Sgt_Lemming atm, dual xeon 3.06Ghz, but it's old p4 xeons, and only 2gb ram
13:12 Sgt_Lemming Sythen, not really practical for me, being in australia
13:13 Sgt_Lemming also, I have a new server sitting here, just need to get it hosted
13:13 Sythen thats why my connection to the server sucks huge panda wang
13:13 tlockley need to find a good colo
13:13 Sgt_Lemming yeah, colo here is hexpensive
13:13 Sgt_Lemming $100 a month for 1u with 100gb transfer
13:13 tlockley ouch
13:14 tlockley i have neen making due with VPS and so far havent had issues
13:14 tlockley though i may try and make my Xserve into a MC server as it is 2x 2core xenon
13:14 Sgt_Lemming xeon, only 1 n
13:15 tlockley 1n?
13:15 Sgt_Lemming Xeon, not Xenon
13:15 Sgt_Lemming xenon is a noble gas, xeon is a server class cpu
13:15 tlockley ah
13:15 tlockley then why does everyon pronounce with 2 ns
13:16 Experimentonomen how big is this world/city ?
13:16 Sgt_Lemming people who don't know what they are talking about do tlockley, people who know what they are talking about pronounce 1 n
13:17 tlockley well then another reason to hate being on nantucket
13:17 Sgt_Lemming yup
13:18 tlockley in any case, i just wish i had verizon FiOS FTTH ervice here
13:18 tlockley *servic
13:18 tlockley fuck i cant type
13:18 Sgt_Lemming new server is Dual CPU Dual core Opterons @ 2.4GHz, 2 x 146GB 15krpm drives in Raid 1, and 16GB ram
13:19 tlockley nice
13:19 Sgt_Lemming yup, cost me a whole $200
13:19 tlockley o_O
13:19 Seroster Xeon?
13:19 tlockley AMD
13:19 Seroster What the fuck... People say xeon?
13:20 Seroster Or did I horribly misunderstand?
13:20 Sgt_Lemming it's pronounced "Zeon"
13:20 Seroster But people say aluminum, so I shouldnt be surprised if people fuck up the noble gases too.
13:20 Sgt_Lemming but some people say it "Zenon" like the noble gas
13:20 Sgt_Lemming cpu, not noble gas seroster
13:21 Sgt_Lemming way to not read the backlog :-P
13:21 Seroster Yeah, read up a bit
13:22 tlockley damn, just found a colo here in the states for 4u @ $60 including BW and IPs
13:23 Sgt_Lemming fscker
13:23 Sgt_Lemming wish it was that cheap here
13:24 Sgt_Lemming yet another reason we NEED the NBN
13:24 tlockley NBN?
13:24 Sgt_Lemming National Broadband Network, FTTP for the whole country basically
13:25 tlockley that would be nice
13:25 tlockley here, it is like pulling teeth just to get 20/5 mbit cable
13:26 Sgt_Lemming here it's like pulling teeth to get reliable 20/1mbit adsl
13:26 Sgt_Lemming and that is if you are lucky enough to live within 1km of an exchange
13:27 Sgt_Lemming cable here is EXPENSIVE and crap
13:27 tlockley atleast your DSL prividers offer 20mbit
13:27 tlockley you are lucky to get better than dual ISDN over DSL here
13:27 Sgt_Lemming they offer upto 20mbit, by law they aren't required to guarantee more than 2mbit
13:28 tlockley what shit
13:28 tlockley what is it per month for cable there?
13:28 Sgt_Lemming cable, with a decent download limit is easily over $100 a month
13:29 Sythen i can get 100mb cable for about £45 a month
13:29 Sgt_Lemming we pay $100 a month for our ADSL, we get about 18mbit and have a 1TB limit, but uploads and downloads count towards it
13:29 tlockley Sythen: a cordial fuck you
13:29 Sythen hehe
13:29 tlockley and Sgt_Lemming i feel your pain... sorta
13:29 Sythen i pay £21 for my 10mb connection, there unlimited
13:29 KernelTrap Sythen: aw, because I can get a 1Gb line for around $150/month
13:29 tlockley its $60/mo for 20/5 with 250GB of xfer
13:30 tlockley and up and down couts
13:30 KernelTrap well, if i move a town or two over
13:30 tlockley but it used to be unlimited
13:30 Sgt_Lemming there is a cheap crappy ISP here who does do unlimited adsl2+ for $99 a month
13:30 Sgt_Lemming but there customer service is horrendous
13:31 Sgt_Lemming took me 2 months to get a dropout issue fixed
13:31 Sgt_Lemming I was getting 400 dropouts a day
13:31 tlockley in the states if i moved to new jersey i could get Fiber
13:31 Sythen yup
13:31 tlockley ouch sgt
13:31 Sythen they have fios
13:31 tlockley yah
13:31 KernelTrap fios? pssh
13:32 tlockley but i dont want to move to jersey\
13:32 KernelTrap tlockley, come to tennessee and play with our gigabit lines
13:32 Sgt_Lemming oh, and these weren't auth drops either, it was completely losing sync
13:32 Sgt_Lemming so it would take 2 or 3 minutes to come back
13:32 tlockley and if the fucking british didnt have a strangle hold on the fiber here i would have fiber on nantucket
13:32 tlockley KernelTrap: I would love to
13:32 Sgt_Lemming it was down more than it was up
13:32 tlockley lol
13:32 Sgt_Lemming tlockley, what do the british have to do with fibre there?
13:33 Sythen we dont
13:33 tlockley national grid
13:33 KernelTrap tlockley: we have a bunch of lovely universities and ORNL, so we get the best internets infrastructure in the country
13:33 tlockley nat grid is a british owned and operated conpany
13:33 tlockley yes, yes you do
13:33 Sythen the national grid is to do with electricity
13:33 KernelTrap Sythen: hey, we don't even HAVE a national ower grid
13:33 tlockley but they also maintain and run the fiber here in nantucket
13:34 KernelTrap I think that's a good thing, though, honestly
13:34 KernelTrap makes outages more manageable
13:34 tlockley KernelTrap: national grid is a company
13:34 KernelTrap ah. stupid name
13:34 KernelTrap tiny country could totally have one though
13:34 tlockley .w National Grid
13:34 Sythen where the fuck is nantucket?
13:34 BotSteve "National Grid (UK), the electricity transmission network of the United Kingdom" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Grid
13:34 KernelTrap tiny tiny tiny country
13:34 tlockley 30mi off the coast of massachusetts
13:35 tlockley http://g.co/maps/evhus
13:35 Sythen ok, the british national grid has nothing to do with fibre optics
13:36 tlockley its national grid plc
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13:36 tlockley and all they do is own and lease the fiber
13:37 tlockley after you pay them for the fiber you need to find a ustream ISP to service the fiber
13:37 Sythen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Grid_plc
13:38 tlockley the only groups with fiber here are the Town of Nantucket, Verizon, ATT, Comcast, and a local IPS Nantucket.NET
13:38 tlockley *ISP
13:39 tlockley and a soon to be defunct WISP Blast Networks
13:39 tlockley or WiBlast or whatever it was clled
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14:19 Sythen im itchin to build hehe
14:24 * Experimentonomen rewinds a fried bldc motor he got on ebay
14:25 Sythen that sounds like fun
14:27 Experimentonomen its not
14:27 Experimentonomen the thing is a inrunner = harder to wind
14:27 Sythen ok
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14:29 Experimentonomen almost a month and im still only at pole 3 out of 6
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14:50 Sgt_Lemming inrunner is a lot harder to build than outrunner
14:51 Sgt_Lemming I'm considering making my own outrunners atm
14:52 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, ever read the blog "Equals Zero"?
14:57 Experimentonomen this one is... err was a 60 watt 25V bldc motor from a sliding door from a store somewhere in the world
14:58 Sgt_Lemming heh
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15:03 AndroUser2 god morning
15:04 tlockley morning
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15:05 obtusemobile thats better
15:06 tlockley heh
15:06 obtusemobile you dont realize how vital electricity is until you are without it
15:06 obtusemobile power is out right now
15:06 tlockley hells yah
15:06 tlockley thats a bummer
15:07 Experimentonomen http://experimentonomen.imgur.com/motor_rewindrepair
15:07 obtusemobile i want a hot shower.
15:07 tlockley get a big pot
15:08 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/SkatEboard?authkey=Gv1sRgCLby-unW-5r2sgE
15:08 Sgt_Lemming 4WD Electric Skateboard with ABS braking and Traction control.
15:08 tonsofpcs obtusemobile: eh, the power outages I was ok with.  The 2 week boil water advisory that they couldn't tell me if it applied to me, followed by the ongoing water conservation requirement is really @*$^( annoying.
15:08 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I have the following messages for you:
15:08 BotSteve At 06:32Z, lwq asked me to tell tonsofpcs lwq1996 want to know how much he would want for one of those 512mb flashdrives
15:08 BotSteve At 06:34Z, lwq asked me to tell tonsofpcs sorry i mean 128mb flashdrives
15:09 Experimentonomen gotta be quite large to have room for all that
15:10 obtusemobile ah true tonsofpcs.
15:10 obtusemobile things getting back to normal in new york state?
15:14 tonsofpcs obtusemobile: well, I live on a hill and didn't have any issues at home.  There's at least two grade schools that aren't usable (one of which I hear people suggesting they never use again).  The Home Depot was still moving the building into the parking lot last time I looked, we have no decent electronic store anymore....
15:15 tonsofpcs I'm hearing reports of things opening back up in Owego (The town of Owego is pretty flat.  The entire town flooded.)
15:15 Sgt_Lemming so I know how they need to setup the dust extractor
15:15 obtusemobile oh man. so its going to be a while before things get back to normal
15:15 Sgt_Lemming same way proper ones work
15:16 Sgt_Lemming tube that sits around the cutting head and the vacuum is pulled into that
15:16 Sgt_Lemming good way to do it is a large circular vaccuum brush head
15:17 Sgt_Lemming means the dust is pulled away a lot more effectively
15:17 obtusemobile all this damage revolves around dlooding. is there a problem of people not having flood insurance.
15:17 Sgt_Lemming or like the floods here at the start of the year, and the insurance companies refusing to pay out
15:18 obtusemobile flooding. not dloding.
15:18 obtusemobile even if you have flood insurance?
15:19 Sgt_Lemming yeah, the insurance companies here tried to gyp a lot of people on it
15:19 Sgt_Lemming government told em to pay up or else
15:19 Sgt_Lemming but people who's houses had been destroyed were living in tents for 6 months
15:20 obtusemobile terrible
15:20 tonsofpcs obtusemobile: no clue.  I know the area flooded pretty bad (not quite this bad, but bad) in 2006.  FEMA provided a lot of assistance then.  Apparently there's a limit to how much FEMA assistance you can get since one of the big questions I was hearing float around was "What if you got FEMA [insurance] in 2006?  how much can you get now?"
15:20 tonsofpcs (I moved here in 2008)
15:22 obtusemobile sounds quite ugly. if there was a massive flood here in gr wed be fucked.
15:22 Sgt_Lemming obtusemobile, one place here had 150mm/6" of rain... in 22 minutes
15:23 tonsofpcs http://www.pressconnects.com/article/20110924/NEWS01/109240341/Rebuilding-from-flood-much-do-little-time?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE sums it up pretty well
15:23 obtusemobile im at the bottom of a valley
15:23 Sgt_Lemming obtusemobile, this was a place in the mountains, the amount of water that hit it was phenomenal
15:24 obtusemobile oh wow.
15:24 tonsofpcs tinyurl of the above: http://tinyurl.com/s7flood-after
15:24 tonsofpcs I kept having people ask if I had any flood damge.  I live uphill from one of the places they evacuated people to.  "If it flooded there, we'd all be @#%@%d"
15:25 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, the brisbane river that flows through the middle of the city here overflowed it's banks by 4.6m
15:29 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: ouch.
15:30 Sgt_Lemming http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/2011_Flooding_in_Brisbane_Suburbs.JPG
15:30 tonsofpcs We have built-up banks and floodwalls since the early 20th century (and some even older).  They fixed them all up and built some of them taller after 2006.  From what I understand, only the new (like, less than a year old) flood walls  from around the hospital weren't overflowed -- and the water was less than 2" from the top
15:31 Sgt_Lemming they built a dam here to prevent the river from flooding the city
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15:31 Sgt_Lemming then 30 years later we have a once in a hundred years rain event
15:31 tonsofpcs yea, that looks very similar to what happened here.
15:31 Sgt_Lemming they reckon if the dam hadn't been there, the river would have hit 8m or more
15:32 tonsofpcs well, they say the 2006 flood was a "once every 100 years" flood.  This is 5 years and 1 or 2 months later....
15:32 tonsofpcs I forget the numbers here *looks up*
15:34 tonsofpcs Normal height is ~8 ft, "action stage" is 15. "flood stage" (where it starts overflowing the banks) is 18.  In 2006, it reached 33.6 ft.  I think it reached about the same (maybe 34ft?) at that gage this time...
15:34 tonsofpcs 34 - 18 = 16 ft, 16 ft is just under 5m...
15:34 tonsofpcs (4.8ish?)
15:35 tonsofpcs so yyea, about the same :(
15:36 tonsofpcs we have some areas that were "protected by flood walls" since the 1930s.  They were still pumping water out last week (there is no normal drainage), I'm not sure the current status.
15:36 tonsofpcs flooding was 7-sept to 8-sept
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15:37 tonsofpcs wb
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15:43 BatSteve yo
15:43 tlockley hey
15:44 BatSteve how goes it tlockley?
15:44 tlockley good, just working every day
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15:46 tlockley anything interesting with you BatSteve
15:47 BatSteve I'm taking a class on a programming language that I already know and amusing myself by turning in incredibly overengineered homework assignments.
15:48 tlockley very nice. what language?
15:48 BatSteve Python
15:48 tlockley lolz
15:48 tlockley 2.x or 3.x?
15:50 BatSteve We can use either.  I'm trying to get into the habit of using 3.x
15:51 tonsofpcs grrr @ cable
15:51 BatSteve it's tough to make all those print calls into print() calls
15:51 BatSteve Especially when your habit is to just write print
15:51 tlockley yah
15:51 tonsofpcs I took two programming courses in college.
15:51 tonsofpcs Well, technically, I took the same one twice....
15:51 tlockley i probably should also get in the habbit of using 3.x
15:52 tonsofpcs I failed the first time because "your psuedocode looks too much like code" (on a handwritten final exam).  Only course I failed in college.
15:52 tlockley that is such bull
15:53 tonsofpcs mind you, we were using borland Turbo C++ compiler and nothing else was allowed in that class
15:53 * tlockley shivers
15:53 tonsofpcs The second time, I walked in day 1 and asked "do you care what compiler I use? because I'd rather use gcc since I can run it on both windows and linux".  I was essentially the teacher's assistant for the entire course
15:53 tlockley very nice
15:54 tonsofpcs (different teacher, of course -- the first one was the head of the dept.)
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15:55 tonsofpcs hey, just because I'm 20 doesn't mean that I haven't been writing code for 15 years.  Not my fault thaat you've got six math degrees and nothing better to do than to head up a CS department teaching a language that you have a poor grasp on...
15:55 tlockley agreed
15:55 tonsofpcs (also, mind you, half the crap we did was really base C and not C++ and she couldn't differentiate the two)
15:56 tlockley my first programming couse in college was supposed to be beginner programming with Alice
15:56 tonsofpcs lol alice
15:56 tonsofpcs I'm sorry.
15:56 tonsofpcs my first programming course was the diskette that came with my Apple //C "learning Logo" (or something like that)
15:56 tlockley heh, logo
15:57 tlockley but regardless, i changed my class to beginner java
15:57 tlockley and i still hate java
15:58 tonsofpcs heh, my college (not the one I took that course at -- I got an AS from there then got a BA from this place) standardized CS on Java
15:58 tlockley almost everyone does now
15:58 tonsofpcs mind you, when you have a guy who was on the Java dev team on staff, I guess it's a good idea.....
15:58 tlockley because it truely is THE enterprise language you need to know
15:58 tonsofpcs java as an enterprise language *shudder*
15:59 tlockley unfortunately
15:59 tonsofpcs I'd rather use Visual Basic.
15:59 tonsofpcs at least then I know what's going to crash it and why.
15:59 tlockley heh
15:59 tlockley though the other languages that use the JVM are okay
16:00 tlockley forexample twitter is almost entirely scala now
16:00 tonsofpcs with java, I have no clue what interpreter is being run, what underlying OS it's being run on, how background memory is truly addressed, there's no way to even guess at optimization
16:00 tlockley yah
16:00 tonsofpcs twitter is almost entirely a memory and data/transfer hog now (client side)....
16:01 tlockley twitter is just a hog period
16:01 tonsofpcs before new twitter, I never had twitter take down my web browseer....
16:01 tlockley lol
16:01 tonsofpcs and facebook is even worse.  I can't have two tabs open on my eeepc.
16:01 tlockley yah all the ajax/commet bs is kinda lame
16:01 tlockley i just ignore facebook besides the mobile client now
16:01 tonsofpcs seriously, let me click refresh, I'm not a dolt.  Your servers are getting hammered just as much anyway.
16:02 tlockley yah but its not cool to have to click refresh
16:03 tonsofpcs yea, tweetchat does a great job of not killing my browser -- and they're using a third-party API with half of it client-side, pushing ajax calls in 8 different directions
16:03 tlockley heh
16:04 tlockley soo much ajax
16:04 lwq-sleeping good moring people
16:05 tonsofpcs good mooring.
16:05 tonsofpcs oh, and the loading 160000 instances of flash doesn't help much either
16:06 tlockley why is there soo much flash on twitter?
16:06 tonsofpcs <3 killall plugin-container
16:06 tonsofpcs idk if twitter does it, FB does, ad laden sites do.
16:06 tlockley yep
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16:13 Cprossu the only kind of ajax I like is the cleaning kind =P
16:13 lwq1996 hi tonsofpcs
16:13 tonsofpcs hi Cprossu
16:14 Cprossu hey tonsofpcs
16:14 tonsofpcs Cprossu: can you do me a favor and take a road trip to Time Warner HQ and yell at them?
16:14 tonsofpcs (cable)
16:14 lwq1996 hey tonsofpcs how much would you want for one of those 128mb flashdrives
16:14 Cprossu no, outa money
16:14 Cprossu =(
16:14 tonsofpcs lwq1996: they're not mine
16:14 lwq1996 oh
16:14 tlockley hey Cprossu
16:15 lwq1996 damn i wanted to get one to run damn small linux on them
16:15 Cprossu hey tlockley what's up?
16:15 tonsofpcs lwq1996: go buy a 4 GB for $5
16:15 Cprossu ^
16:15 tlockley not too much
16:15 lwq1996 thye are like 10 where i live
16:16 tonsofpcs seriously, guy was just here and replaced the splitter in the trap box outside.  Cable modem shows a 5dB increase in level (from -1dBmV to 4dBmV) and a decent SNR (39dB, was around 31~33 before) and it's still having issues
16:16 lwq1996 i got a 4gb and a 8 gb but they are curantly being used to store lots of shit
16:16 tonsofpcs and the idiot I spoke to on web chat yesterday was useless.
16:16 lwq1996 lol
16:17 Cprossu no shocker there,
16:17 lwq1996 when are they helpfull
16:17 tlockley but atleast you didnt waste your breath
16:17 Cprossu idiot was probably in india
16:17 Cprossu or worse, texas
16:17 lwq1996 did it take long to respond
16:17 Cprossu so downstream power level is -4??
16:17 tonsofpcs Cprossu: probably.  He didn't understand "intermittent" (yet alone the full problem spec) but somehow was claiming to "fix [my] problem"
16:17 tonsofpcs Cprossu: no, +4!
16:18 Cprossu usually you want that zero
16:18 tonsofpcs anything above, what, -20? is good for docsis...
16:18 Cprossu true.
16:18 lwq1996 docsis
16:18 lwq1996 ?
16:18 injektion tonsofpcs, Do you have a cable amp?
16:18 Cprossu .w docsis
16:18 Cprossu =P
16:18 BotSteve "Data Over Cable Service Interface Specification (DOCSIS) (often pronounced /ˈdɒksɪs/) is an international telecommunications standard that permits the addition of high-speed data transfer to an existing cable TV (CATV) system." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docsis
16:18 tonsofpcs I figure above 10dBmV it probably starts seeing nonlinear distortion in  the frontend of the receiver....
16:18 tonsofpcs injektion: no.
16:18 lwq1996 i keep for getting about that feature
16:18 Cprossu tonsofpcs water penetration an issue in any of your cable?
16:19 lwq1996 your talking about cable tv?
16:19 tonsofpcs Cprossu: in any of mine? no.  In the cable between here and the headend? Well, I spoke to the regional headend engineer last night and he didn't seem to think there were any line issues, only power issues at repeater and mini-headend facilities....
16:19 tonsofpcs lwq1996: no, DOCSIS.
16:20 injektion tonsofpcs, Maybe an amp will help you
16:20 Cprossu cable internet @ lwq1996.
16:20 * lwq1996 backs away becuase hes confused
16:20 tonsofpcs injektion: the signal levels are fine.
16:20 Cprossu an amp will not help tonsofpcs
16:20 Cprossu lol
16:20 lwq1996 oh
16:20 lwq1996 i understand now
16:20 Cprossu what's your packet loss look like?
16:20 tonsofpcs also, most amps actually block the frequencies that DOCSIS runs at (and are not bidirectional)
16:20 tonsofpcs Cprossu: nil.  The modem is reconnecting
16:20 Cprossu ewww.
16:20 tonsofpcs it's perfect until it goes down.
16:21 tonsofpcs (I mean, I'm sure there's some due to interwebs, but there's nothing noticable on the line)
16:21 injektion I have an amp here and yet I get the full speed my ISP delivers on my speed tier
16:21 Cprossu does upstream power level ever get above 52?
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16:21 Cprossu injektion that's not the issue in this case.
16:21 lwq1996 tonsofpcs what internet company you with
16:21 tonsofpcs Cprossu: upstream used to "pump" as if it were fighting noise, I haven't seen that recently.
16:21 tonsofpcs lwq1996: Time Warner Cable
16:22 Cprossu tonsofpcs hrmm.
16:22 lwq1996 ah....sounds like what windstream does to me
16:22 lwq1996 thats why you see me pop off then back on in like 3min
16:22 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it's running about 44 dBmV upstream now
16:22 tonsofpcs channel 4 -- 24.496 MHz
16:22 tonsofpcs downstream is 609MHz
16:23 Cprossu you running a docsis 3 modem?
16:24 Cprossu or 2?
16:24 wannabe-zz ugh.  time warner cable.  good luck
16:24 Cprossu because I'm surprised not to see it running at ~36mhz.
16:24 tonsofpcs Cprossu: uh...it's a surfboard 5100 HW ver 3
16:25 Cprossu on the upstream
16:25 Cprossu wow tonsofpcs
16:25 Cprossu we're running the same cable modem
16:25 Cprossu your firmware SB5100-2.3.8.0-GA-00-NOSH ?
16:25 tonsofpcs it's pretty common... my parents are too.
16:25 tonsofpcs SB5100-2.3.2.5-SCM01-NOSH
16:25 Cprossu the 5101's and 5120's are not nearly as stable.
16:26 Cprossu hrmmm interesting
16:26 tonsofpcs actually, I take that back, they traded in for one with phone...
16:26 Cprossu ewww
16:26 tlockley those are such crap
16:26 tlockley especially the arris ones
16:26 Cprossu oh come on you can hack the arris ones
16:26 Cprossu rofl
16:27 Sgt_Lemming uploading some CAD stuff atm guys, update versions of some stuff I already have online
16:27 tlockley lol'
16:27 tonsofpcs tlockley: except they have CableVision as a provider -- a company that actually wants to keep its customes.
16:27 tonsofpcs *customers
16:27 tlockley heh
16:27 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: DXF? DWG? what version? :-p
16:27 tlockley just be happy that you dont have a SMC
16:27 tonsofpcs the difference between twc and cv:  One wants to keep its monopoly, one wants to keep its customers.
16:28 Sgt_Lemming JPG tonsofpcs :-P
16:28 Sgt_Lemming not uploading the original files
16:28 * lwq1996 looks for his 4gb flash drived
16:28 lwq1996 drive*
16:28 * tonsofpcs introduces Sgt_Lemming to vector graphics :-p
16:28 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, don't want people copying my design atm
16:29 tonsofpcs this reminds me, I still need to download AutoCAD 2012 and install it...
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16:29 tonsofpcs I got an email like 3 months after I installed 2011 "AutoCAD 2012 is available now, login to your autodesk subscription and get it now"
16:30 tlockley ouch
16:30 Cprossu I think the person who integrated ribbon into autocad should have his head on a pike =P
16:30 tlockley agreed
16:30 tonsofpcs well, subscription = you get free updates as long as you pay the annual fee.
16:30 Cprossu at least you can go back to 'classic' though
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16:30 tonsofpcs and paying subscription for 10 years is cheaper than re-buying the software once.
16:30 tlockley i bet
16:30 wannabe-zz angy!
16:30 tonsofpcs Cprossu: you can?  I just ignore it and use the keyboard :-p
16:31 angy wannabe-zz!
16:32 tonsofpcs like, I took an autocad course in college on 2008... I learned on R7/R11/R13 (we had different versions on different machines in HS).  I was done drawing things before people could even figure out whicch button to press to get an arc....
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16:32 tonsofpcs errr, R7/R11/R12
16:32 tonsofpcs iirc
16:33 tlockley solidworks in HS
16:33 tlockley i am broken for the rest of my life
16:34 Cprossu tonsofpcs keyboard commands are even kinda broken in 2011 iir
16:34 Cprossu c
16:35 Cprossu but yeah you know that 'workspace' thing at the bottom right on the status bar? right click it and select 'autocad classic'
16:35 Cprossu again iirc
16:35 Cprossu it almost makes it usable on a netbook.
16:35 Cprossu despite it's bitching about not having enough res/etc
16:36 tonsofpcs oh, you just need to type a - before them to get the interactive text entry instead of the dialog box (I think, there's ' - and _ as modifiers to change which entry mode happens)
16:37 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/SkatEboard?authkey=Gv1sRgCLby-unW-5r2sgE <--- there yougo guys
16:38 injektion In high school the county school system wrote auto cad learning materials and they sucked so much because they left out a lot of steps
16:38 Cprossu so tonsofpcs did cable tech monkey at least plug his quality meter in?
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16:39 injektion I'm like fuck it and I used inventor to complete all of the assignments
16:39 Sgt_Lemming any comments about the design guys?
16:39 Cprossu and also I can't for the life of me remember what they call what the signal looks like when it's leaking to ground.
16:39 Cprossu it's got some funkified word
16:42 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yes, "tech monkey" was a good guy.  He replaced the connectors on every cable he could lay his hands on, replaced the splitter (premise equipment, not his really) in the trap box, replaced the jumper from the tap to the splitter.
16:42 tonsofpcs ran the specan and Q meter at the tap, at the splitter, and at the two drops inside
16:43 tonsofpcs apparently the cable in the walls here is RG59(/U?) and they replaced some of the cabling in the neighboring apartment buildings at some point but haven't done this one
16:44 Cprossu very nice though.
16:44 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: building a mountain board?
16:44 Cprossu I was worried when I had thought you meant he replaced a tap and left
16:45 Sgt_Lemming 4WD Electric Mountain Board with ABS Braking and Traction Control
16:45 Cprossu so the question becomes is it the node's fault or something else?
16:45 tonsofpcs electric? you go fast enough with gravity.....
16:45 Sgt_Lemming uphill :-P
16:45 tonsofpcs probably the node
16:45 tonsofpcs good luck overcoming gravity on a mountainboard with an electric motor :)
16:46 tonsofpcs also, what's with the tabbed axles (or whatever those are) that I see in the top ortho?
16:46 Sgt_Lemming they are the motor mounts
16:46 tonsofpcs ah, ok
16:46 Sgt_Lemming 4 motors, 1 per wheel
16:46 Sgt_Lemming brushless motors, it's how I do the traction control and ABS
16:47 tonsofpcs are there stability concerns with the axle spacing and full axle turning?  like, should you maybe be running split axles further out?
16:47 Sgt_Lemming nope
16:47 Sgt_Lemming that's 4 foot long in those pics
16:48 tonsofpcs mounting of the board to the trucks... are thos rivets?
16:48 Sgt_Lemming the axles aren't in the pic
16:49 Sgt_Lemming 25mm hollow axles to run the cables to the motors and controllers throught
16:49 Cprossu well the only thing I can tell you tonsofpcs is when it gets bad enough to make the price is right stutter on the set top boxes it'll be fixed ;)
16:49 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream: http://goo.gl/WBSiE | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2
16:49 Seroster goo.gl?
16:49 * BatSteve wonders what the interesting thing was that happened on the stream?
16:49 tonsofpcs I see three holes on each end...
16:49 BatSteve Seroster: it's Google's version of Bit.Ly
16:49 Cprossu it's currently down and I think I no the reason
16:49 Sgt_Lemming three holes?
16:49 Cprossu *know lol
16:49 Cprossu anyway
16:50 Sgt_Lemming you mean the long slots or what?
16:50 tonsofpcs https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/SkatEboard?authkey=Gv1sRgCLby-unW-5r2sgE#5656336637691892274
16:50 Seroster ... Google did a urlshorteren?
16:50 Seroster FFFFUUUUU
16:50 Seroster .g google = umbrella corporation
16:50 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJIMwmOSZVU
16:50 Sgt_Lemming the holes on the arced piece tonsofpcs?
16:50 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: at the left and right end of the board
16:50 tonsofpcs yea
16:50 Cprossu oh tonsofpcs you might find this funny
16:50 Sgt_Lemming those are to adjust the steering angle
16:50 Cprossu using the blackmagic if the pc goes down while streaming, a file somewhere is corrupted
16:51 tonsofpcs Cprossu: there's a lot of tthings that people preface with that that I, oddly enough, do not find funny.
16:51 Cprossu which leads to random lock ups
16:51 tonsofpcs if the PC goes down while streaming?
16:51 tonsofpcs are you sure it's a file and not a register on the board?
16:51 Cprossu no I mean if it looses power
16:52 Cprossu as in how it did the other day
16:52 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, the steering radius can be adjusted, on the settings it's shown at it's 30°
16:52 Cprossu it creates a corrupt piece of data I think in the blackmagic driver settings
16:52 Sgt_Lemming can be as little as 15° or as much as 45° truck angle
16:52 Cprossu which creates a random crash
16:52 Cprossu and by crash I mean hard lock
16:52 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: ah, so bolt through or somesuch?
16:53 Sgt_Lemming yeah, the hole to the outside of them is the pivot for it
16:53 Cprossu so it needs a disk scan/repair and the sucker will be online happily for another month.
16:53 Sgt_Lemming there'll be two 8mm bolts holding the truck to the deck beam
16:53 Cprossu jeff isn't at the lab though so darn
16:53 Sgt_Lemming overbuilt++
16:54 tonsofpcs can craig handle it?
16:54 tonsofpcs (although he's probably not there either)
16:55 Sgt_Lemming have done FEA on the frame, with a 20kg board weight, 200Kg load on the deck, the main beam will flex a whopping 1.03mm :-D
16:55 Sgt_Lemming 1.6mm stainless steel frame
16:56 BatSteve .yt halo desperate measures
16:56 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Q8Ca9jhQs
16:56 tonsofpcs 200kg load?  You know that kilograms are a measure of mass, right?  :-p
16:56 Sgt_Lemming yes, well aware
16:56 Sgt_Lemming I mean carrying a 200Kg load
16:57 tonsofpcs what about when the user bounces up off of it and lands sharply with the corner of a shoe, so all the pressure is over maybe a few square cm?
16:58 Cprossu tonsofpcs that's what warning stickers are for xD
16:58 tonsofpcs lol
16:58 Sgt_Lemming sorry, should specify that is with a 200Kg load dropping a metre onto the centre of the board
16:58 tonsofpcs Cprossu: where's the warning sticker on the stream pc "you touch this i hurt you"
16:58 Cprossu you should see the one on the jupiter configuration notebook.
16:59 Cprossu (made up a laptop for the job)
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16:59 tonsofpcs no, I'd rather not get close enough to touch that :-p
16:59 Sythen evening all
16:59 tlockley evening Sythen
16:59 BatSteve howdy Sythen
16:59 wannabe1987 hi Sythen!
16:59 Sythen some little shit decided to ddos me
17:00 tlockley LOL
17:00 angy you should use plural for ddos attacks
17:00 Cprossu tonsofpcs I think it says more-or-less "Repurpose this and I'll fly from Phoenix to kick your ass to Timbuktu"
17:00 Cprossu -Cprossu
17:01 Cprossu Sythen: you should use Syn cookies :D
17:01 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, what are the requirements of the streaming pc?
17:01 Sythen they can fuck off, fucking skiddes with too much pocket money
17:03 Sgt_Lemming there is a rack in the video area now, setup a rackmount pc for it and lock it off so no-one can change shit etc?
17:04 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: pci-e and not dell.
17:04 Sgt_Lemming heh
17:04 Sgt_Lemming pci-e for gfx card?
17:04 Cprossu no
17:04 Sgt_Lemming or capture card
17:04 Cprossu for the cap card
17:04 Sgt_Lemming kk
17:05 Cprossu I've got a quad core Phenom 9750 up there right now
17:05 Sgt_Lemming IBM 326m servers are cheap as chips on ebay, and have pci-e 8x slot
17:05 Cprossu no.
17:05 Sgt_Lemming ...?
17:05 Cprossu x1 slot and it's VERY PICKY
17:05 Sgt_Lemming x8 slot is compatible with x1
17:05 Cprossu like I said very picky
17:06 Cprossu meaning the bios
17:06 Sgt_Lemming the bios on the capture card?
17:06 Sythen early pci-e x1 were extremely picky
17:06 Cprossu no the capture card's drivers are extremely picky about the motherboards' bios
17:06 Sythen what card is it?
17:06 Cprossu the only problem is a disk writing issue with the drivers
17:07 Sgt_Lemming what capture card is it?
17:07 Cprossu Sythen for the 20th time Blackmagic intensity Pro
17:07 * dr_jkl breaks out YUMI and a bunch of isos and makes a linux install pendrive
17:07 Sgt_Lemming heh
17:07 Sythen sorry Cprossu
17:07 Cprossu it works just fine until power is interrupted
17:07 tonsofpcs downstream is down to 2dBmV SNR 39dB and upstream is up to 45dBmV
17:07 Cprossu it's fine if it has a normal shutdown too
17:08 Cprossu tonsofpcs those are textbook numbers though
17:08 Cprossu yikes.
17:08 Sgt_Lemming so it needs to be HDMI capture?
17:08 Cprossu no
17:08 Cprossu it just needs high qual composite
17:08 Sgt_Lemming kk
17:08 Cprossu and by high qual it's pushing 720x485(don't ask me why 485)
17:08 Sythen tis rather odd
17:08 Cprossu (it was just happy there)
17:09 Sgt_Lemming 4:3
17:09 Sgt_Lemming hmm, mebe not
17:09 Sgt_Lemming yeah, weird res
17:09 Cprossu still gives a good result
17:10 Cprossu our other cap cards could do all of 320x240
17:10 Cprossu and were interlaced even then =P
17:10 Seroster http://www.wimp.com/worthwatching
17:10 Seroster The name of that man, please
17:11 Sgt_Lemming john cassidy
17:11 Sgt_Lemming says it at the start of the video...
17:11 Seroster Good boy, Sgt_Lemming!
17:12 Sgt_Lemming lol
17:13 Seroster I watched it a dozen times and never heard that name xD
17:13 Sgt_Lemming it's text
17:13 Sgt_Lemming http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-RACK-LOADED-X326M-DUAL-OPTERON-280-4GB-/380371256709?pt=COMP_EN_Servers&amp;hash=item588fe4c585 <--- JISM! do want!
17:14 Cprossu he's huffed too much helium @ Seroster
17:14 wannabe1987 lol
17:14 Cprossu acbel psu's in ibm's servers?!
17:14 Cprossu wtf
17:14 Sgt_Lemming yeah
17:15 Sgt_Lemming that's quite common
17:15 Cprossu someone needs to be beaten over it =P
17:15 Sgt_Lemming Acbel or FSP make a lot of server PSU's
17:15 Cprossu I like seeing deltas when I crack open rackmounts
17:16 Cprossu nearly anything else is a case of "crap i'll have to keep lots of spares'
17:16 Seroster Cprossu, But he got fucking carisma!
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17:19 Cprossu Seroster that's an evil thing to do rofl 'your brother melted!'
17:20 Seroster YEAH!
17:20 Seroster And "Mommy can do it if she loves you"
17:20 Cprossu serves her right for cuttign
17:21 Cprossu unicorns are delicious lol
17:21 Seroster ItwasHIIIIM! P
17:21 Seroster Yeah, They are
17:21 Seroster I love that man
17:21 tonsofpcs Cprossu: 485????
17:22 tonsofpcs you sure it wasn't 486?
17:22 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: it's 4:3
17:22 tonsofpcs non-square pixels (roughly 0.9)
17:22 Cprossu yes our output resolution is 720x485.
17:22 Cprossu don't ask me.
17:22 tonsofpcs is it missing the top partial-scan-line or the bottom?
17:22 Cprossu I think 2 pixels are hacked off
17:23 Cprossu one on top one on bottom
17:23 tonsofpcs well, there's 484 + 2 half lines....
17:23 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, nope, 720/4*3 = 540
17:23 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: 720/4*3*0.9
17:23 tonsofpcs they're not square pixels.
17:24 Cprossu balloon man!!!!! B
17:24 Cprossu LOL
17:24 Cprossu blue man hahahaahahaha
17:27 tonsofpcs Cprossu: which card is it? intensity?
17:27 Cprossu intensity pro @ tonsofpcs
17:28 Cprossu I think I should just make a bot to answer this question at this point
17:28 tonsofpcs well, yea pro is the card, shuttle is the USB
17:28 tonsofpcs and I wasn't guessing you put usb 3 in that thing
17:28 Cprossu hell no
17:28 Cprossu lol
17:29 angy BatSteve: you there somewhere?
17:29 tonsofpcs cus the USB 3 card would cost more than the intensity
17:30 BatSteve hi angy
17:30 Sgt_Lemming also fsck using USB in a production system
17:30 angy I'm going to setup a (useless) thing to track dev
17:30 angy now we're more than 1 :p
17:31 tonsofpcs oh, what's this, they have an intenisty extreme now?  (thunderbolt?)
17:33 Sgt_Lemming only machines with thunderbolt on the market atm are latest model macs
17:33 angy nope
17:34 angy there is one sony model with it
17:34 Sgt_Lemming yeah
17:34 Sgt_Lemming a laptop
17:35 tonsofpcs no PCIe card for thunderbolt?
17:36 Sgt_Lemming not on the market atm that I know of
17:36 angy there is a few
17:36 angy but very hard to get hands on
17:36 angy in a few, it's like 2 models
17:38 Sgt_Lemming thunderbolt is a nice idea, but it's gonna be a year or two before it really catches on
17:38 tonsofpcs asus has a mobo, apparently
17:38 Sgt_Lemming integrating displayport and thunderbolt is an inspired move though
17:38 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: right, and by the time it works, there's going to be something new (see USB 3.0 for a history lesson)
17:39 Sgt_Lemming what I expect we will start to see is things like monitors with USB3.0 controllers onboard
17:40 Sgt_Lemming I mean you already get monitors with USB hubs
17:41 Sgt_Lemming the chip for a PCIe USB controller, isn't much more than a USB hub chip
17:43 Sgt_Lemming so you have one cable between computer and monitor, instead of the 4 I have atm
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17:50 injektion mmm Thunderbolt
17:50 Sgt_Lemming at first I thought thunderbolt was gonna be like the next firewire
17:51 Sgt_Lemming but it seems that lots of company are starting to picking it up
17:51 Sgt_Lemming so it looks like it's going to be pretty good
17:54 Sythen it will be a bout between usb and thunderbolt sooner or later
17:54 Sgt_Lemming I doubt it
17:54 Sgt_Lemming as thunderbolt is a much different beast
17:54 angy they are aimed to different thing
17:54 angy I doubt you'll see a thunderbolt mouse
17:54 Sgt_Lemming heh
17:54 Sgt_Lemming that would be amusing
17:54 Sythen true, but you never know
17:55 Sythen thats what i said about usb when i first saw it
17:55 angy thunderbolt is limited to chain
17:55 Sgt_Lemming chain?
17:55 angy usb was designed for using HID
17:55 Sgt_Lemming USB was designed as a replacement for RS232, PS/2 and Parralel
17:56 angy I don't think you can use hubs with thunderbolt as you can in USB
17:56 angy maybe with the cooper one, but it was not designed to be with the fiber
17:56 Sgt_Lemming angy, not a hub per se
17:56 SparkyProjects With the advent of TV's where you can wirelessly stream from your smartphone or tablet, i can see wireless connection to the monitor being developed.
17:56 SparkyProjects Doesn't help with those that use USB ports on their monitor though.
17:56 Sythen well, its still very young, we shall see what happens
17:56 angy widi :)
17:57 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, as I said before, I think it won't be long before we see more monitors like apples thunderbolt monitor
17:57 Sgt_Lemming with 1 cable to the monitor doing video and data for a USB hub and other devices
17:57 Sgt_Lemming also thunderbolt means you can daisy chain monitors, which is a boon for people like me with monitor arrays
17:58 angy you're quite limited to chaining though
17:58 Sgt_Lemming no, you aren't angy
17:58 angy chaining is based on display port currently, not thunderbolt
17:58 Sgt_Lemming and also the chain can be multi host
17:58 SparkyProjects I only use 1 cable to the monitor, usb is easily in reach on the tower, and i use a separate speaker system
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17:59 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, I have usb, DVI and optical audio to monitor
17:59 Sgt_Lemming there are USB devices like my webcam, plugged into the monitor
17:59 Sgt_Lemming also the receivers for my mouse and keyboard are plugged into it
17:59 Sgt_Lemming one of the monitors has a card reader as well
18:00 SparkyProjects I remember the monitor we had installed in our security lodge at work, it was able to be daisy chained, i don't think there was a limit, you  could make massive multiscreen monitors (vertical and horizontal grid)
18:01 Sgt_Lemming there would have to be a limit
18:01 SparkyProjects I haven't found a monitor with decent sound, i prefer separate
18:01 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, I don't use the speakers on the monitor
18:01 Sgt_Lemming I use it to decode the audio from my main pc
18:02 Sythen i like my soundcard and headset
18:02 Sgt_Lemming as it actually gives better sound output on the lineout than my pc does
18:02 angy the limit is quite easy to calculate, just calculate the bandwidth needed for a monitor and divide the calble bandwidth
18:02 dr_jkl #%@#%#@%#@*
18:02 * dr_jkl backs up a bunch of shit to an internal sdhc card reader and prepares to nuke the OS on her laptop from orbit
18:02 wannabe1987 o.O
18:03 dr_jkl f&$#ing windows
18:03 Sgt_Lemming dr_jkl, this is why I don't store anything on the same drive as the OS
18:03 Sythen issues?
18:03 Sgt_Lemming nothing at all
18:04 dr_jkl i let my wife use my computer
18:04 dr_jkl now it's all f#%@ed up.
18:04 Sgt_Lemming heh
18:05 dr_jkl i'm convinced that those two things have nothing to do with each other - she didn't go anywhere unscrupulous which means i probably picked it up while looking at *cough* research material
18:05 Sythen anatomy class eh?
18:05 dr_jkl to a fashion, yes
18:05 Sythen hehe
18:06 Sgt_Lemming dr_jkl, flatmate of mine used to keep his porn in a folder called "reference"
18:06 dr_jkl eset is all like 'somethin' ain't right' and is blocking the proxy traffic my system is trying to send out, but i can't find the f#%@ing proxy and i really don't have time to diagnose it :D
18:06 angy find a huge wooden club
18:06 dr_jkl i should just make this box a debian box
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18:07 dr_jkl fuck this noise
18:07 dr_jkl lol, what a line to walk in on
18:07 dr_jkl hya KB3NZQ_Biostar
18:07 dr_jkl i should just put debian on this laptop tonight, f this crap
18:07 dr_jkl in fact thats what i'm going to do i think
18:08 angy Toasty!
18:08 * angy hugs Toastdude
18:08 Toastdude Angyy!
18:08 Sgt_Lemming dr_jkl, both the minecraft servers I run are on debian
18:08 dr_jkl oh angy
18:08 * Toastdude hugs angy
18:08 dr_jkl i thought of you earlier
18:08 Sgt_Lemming for a damned good reason
18:08 dr_jkl i mistyped 'angrybirds' as 'angybirds'
18:08 angy :p
18:08 Sythen i like having a large amount of storage space, i have disk images just incase
18:08 dr_jkl Sgt_Lemming: i use debian almost everywhere
18:08 angy I should release a game, but it will be R rated
18:08 Sgt_Lemming I use debian on servers, my desktop is still running windows
18:09 Sythen all my systems run windows in some fashion
18:09 angy I, sadly, need to keep a windows somewhere
18:09 * wannabe1987 glomps on Toastdude
18:09 dr_jkl leisure suit larry. but in french.
18:09 angy but, I finally won! the soft vendor I used in my thesis just release a Linux version
18:10 angy but I finished a few days ago :)
18:10 dr_jkl merde,
18:10 * Toastdude hugs wannabe1987
18:10 dr_jkl why does it always start to rain just as i'm getting dressed to go to work
18:10 dr_jkl i dont WANT to be rained on
18:10 * angy grabs Toastdude
18:10 wannabe1987 careful, don't get too close, don't wanna get you sick :P
18:10 * Toastdude ducks away from angy
18:11 angy that's because it is like that!
18:11 angy I love rain, when I'm indoor
18:11 wannabe1987 angy isn't sick,Toastdude, i am :P
18:11 wannabe1987 dr_jkl you won't melt....
18:12 angy P'ky will melt, he just eat too much sugar
18:13 wannabe1987 lol
18:13 wannabe1987 in his tea?
18:14 angy 2 sugar! it's way too much
18:15 Sythen hey Sgt_Lemming, are you about?
18:16 wannabe1987 i use one sugar in my tea
18:16 wannabe1987 http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/317326_10150390990826834_644876833_9895068_224676174_n.jpg  MY CATt
18:16 wannabe1987 my cat*
18:16 tonsofpcs angy: huh?
18:16 Sgt_Lemming yeah I am Sythen
18:16 Sythen that be a cat indeed
18:16 wannabe1987 hes got 6 toes on each foot :D
18:16 Sythen any chance i could get build rights on the MC server?
18:16 Toastdude Hi tonsofpcs
18:17 tonsofpcs hi Toastdude
18:17 Sgt_Lemming type /rules in the chat Sythen
18:17 angy Sgt_Lemming: You did not know that my preferred thing when I'm bored is melting peoples?
18:17 * tonsofpcs puts 4 sugars in a large cup of lipton tea.  0 in any good tea.
18:17 Sgt_Lemming we are pretty strict about how we do it
18:17 Sythen oh?
18:17 tonsofpcs /rules
18:18 Sgt_Lemming Sythen, stops people from griefing etc, and means people have read the rules
18:18 wannabe1987 the tea was from a chinese place, so idk what it was
18:18 Sgt_Lemming also, main admin has to grant em atm, I can't right now
18:19 Sythen right on
18:19 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/TassiePics#5342973301387802114 <--- my old cat, that step she is lying against is about 1.5' high
18:19 Sgt_Lemming big cat
18:21 tonsofpcs MC server?
18:21 Sgt_Lemming Minecraft
18:21 tonsofpcs oh
18:22 Sgt_Lemming ifami.dyndns.org if you want to have a look
18:22 Seroster EY bitches.
18:22 Seroster I have a quadtetrahedron. http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311725_2146085008598_1140476802_32144476_736099847_n.jpg
18:22 Sgt_Lemming nice Seroster
18:24 Seroster =)
18:24 Sgt_Lemming I tried to make my self an aluminium armband on our lathe and mill last night
18:24 Seroster That is what I did to pass the time while my classmates were struggling with pre tinned soldernet
18:25 Sgt_Lemming unfortunately, I didn't make it thin enough, and when I tried to squish it down to the right shape it snapped :-(
18:26 Seroster O
18:26 Seroster How thin was it?
18:26 Sgt_Lemming about 2.5mm
18:26 Seroster You dont happen to be able to tigweld?
18:26 Seroster And how much squishing were you doing? =P
18:26 wannabe1987 are those coins Seroster?
18:26 Seroster Yes, wannabe1987.
18:26 wannabe1987 good use for them
18:26 Seroster About 4 bucks worth
18:27 Seroster I can put the whole thing in the oven on full throttle and have my coins back in less than ten minutes.
18:27 Toastdude How many know about Arduino programming?
18:27 Sgt_Lemming trying to make it oval rather than round
18:27 Sgt_Lemming seeing as my wrist is not round
18:27 Sgt_Lemming probably also didn't help that it's crappy aluminium we cast
18:28 Sgt_Lemming old waste scrap we melted down and recast
18:28 Seroster ow
18:28 Sgt_Lemming machines fine, but not very ductile
18:28 Toastdude Anyone?
18:28 Seroster Well that explains a lot
18:28 Seroster Toastdude, I know about it, but I don't know much about it.
18:28 Toastdude Ok
18:29 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, if you recast, mill and then heat treat the aluminium it might work
18:29 Sgt_Lemming hmm yeah, have another slug there, might heat that one up
18:29 Sgt_Lemming give it a go
18:29 Seroster Worst case scenario it breaks and then you can recast it =P
18:29 Sgt_Lemming might*
18:30 Sgt_Lemming except I lose a lot of aluminium in the machining
18:30 Seroster Can't save the shavings?
18:30 Sgt_Lemming not easily
18:30 Sgt_Lemming they get mixed with all the other shavings in our coolant system
18:31 Seroster And those shavings consist of?
18:31 Seroster If it is just steel and aluminium you're golden
18:31 Sgt_Lemming steel, plastic, brass, magnesium, etc, etc
18:31 Seroster Ow
18:31 Seroster Do you sell it?
18:31 Sgt_Lemming nope
18:32 Seroster Right..
18:32 Sgt_Lemming not got enough to do so yet anyway
18:32 Seroster Anyhow. I'll take out the trash
18:32 Seroster And hope to find something fun
18:32 Sgt_Lemming brass is fun to machine
18:32 Seroster Looks pretty too
18:32 Seroster I love the videos of really high speed machining
18:32 Sgt_Lemming nah, copper is the prettiest to machine
18:32 Sgt_Lemming but a cast iron bitch to do
18:34 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/CopperHeadlights <--- each one of the pieces there took approx 4 hours to do
18:34 Sgt_Lemming because you cannot machine copper fast
18:34 Sgt_Lemming they are 32mm diameter by 35mm long
18:35 Seroster Did I mention I think copper is the prettiest metal ever?
18:35 Sgt_Lemming oh hells yes
18:35 Sgt_Lemming copper is amazing when it's freshly machined, keeping it that way is hells own task though
18:37 Seroster Anyhow
18:37 Seroster cay
18:39 Toastdude Bye Seroster
18:41 wannabe1987 bye!
18:42 wannabe1987 BatSteve why 'd you change the topic?  i' liked being the topic...
18:43 BatSteve because tggmc said that there would be live streaming from the HV lab, wannabe1987
18:43 wannabe1987 awwww
18:43 wannabe1987 ok
18:43 BatSteve I don't know if there ever was.
18:43 wannabe1987 .stream
18:43 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://justin.tv/thegeekgroup
18:43 BatSteve That was yesterday
18:43 BatSteve I didn't ever hear if anything came of it.
18:43 BatSteve Does anyone know?
18:43 wannabe1987 its only 2 somthing?
18:43 BatSteve ?
18:43 wannabe1987 the time
18:43 wannabe1987 the stream isn't live
18:44 wannabe1987 tggmc why is the stream broken?  Cprossu you have anything to do with this?
18:44 BatSteve like I said, it was *yesterday* that the live stream was supposed to happen, kelly
18:44 BatSteve Not today
18:44 wannabe1987 then why'd you change it today?
18:45 BatSteve Because until this morning, it still said "Live Coverage from the High Voltage Lab begins soon!  Lab's Live Stream: http://goo.gl/WBSiE | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2"
18:46 wannabe1987 ah ok
18:46 BatSteve And since live coverage was NOT beginning soon (because it was already over) I didn't want people to get confused.
18:46 Sgt_Lemming .seen captain_boden
18:46 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen captain_boden around.
18:46 Sgt_Lemming .seen captainboden
18:46 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I last saw captainboden 292.96 hours ago at 2011-09-13 13:48:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:46:33 UTC
18:46 KernelTrap You guys know about tough mudder, right?
18:46 wannabe1987 12 ish days
18:46 KernelTrap I'm doing one next year
18:46 Sgt_Lemming sigh
18:48 wannabe1987 why Sgt_Lemming?
18:49 Sgt_Lemming know what he need to do to make a dust extactor work on the SR-100
18:49 wannabe1987 does emailing him work?
18:49 Sgt_Lemming yeah
18:49 wannabe1987 try that then?
18:49 Sgt_Lemming effort
18:49 wannabe1987 :facepalm:
18:50 Sgt_Lemming I will
18:51 Sgt_Lemming just better to talk real time sometimes, email is not real time
18:53 wannabe1987 yeah.  i know
18:53 wannabe1987 call him? :P
18:53 Sgt_Lemming heh
18:53 Sgt_Lemming would do if I had his number
18:53 wannabe1987 i know, its uber long distance
18:53 Sgt_Lemming doesn't fuss me. I get cheap phone calls
18:53 wannabe1987 o ok
18:54 Sgt_Lemming with the health issues I am having I > < this close to quitting my job, packing everything up and heading to GR
18:56 wannabe1987 what, we have better dr's?
18:56 wannabe1987 we do have a wonderful hospital system....
18:57 Sgt_Lemming no, just that I don't wanna be doing something I hate, while worrying about my health
18:57 Toastdude BatSteve!
18:58 Sgt_Lemming I move there and I'm F***ed doctors/hospital wise as I won't be able to afford health insurance till I get some paid work
18:58 wannabe1987 ahhhh.
18:58 BatSteve Toastdude!
18:58 wannabe1987 true
18:58 wannabe1987 start applying for work here now? idunno
18:58 wannabe1987 what work do you do?
18:58 Sgt_Lemming Computers and/or engineering work
18:59 wannabe1987 cool
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19:00 Sgt_Lemming ten years experience doing I.T. work, and a certificate two of engineering
19:01 wannabe1987 IT work in what setting?
19:01 Toastdude Yay, running NXT off a 9v battery
19:01 * angy hugs Toastdude
19:01 * Toastdude hugs angy
19:02 Sgt_Lemming setting?
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19:05 angy BatSteve: http://fs.knights.fr choose one ;)
19:06 Sgt_Lemming all sorts of stuff wannabe1987, everything from small businesses/home users, gaming net cafe, corporate system admin, support for end users of a large company
19:07 wannabe1987 cool.  so you wouldn't have much issue getting an IT job, you have experience doing almost all of it
19:07 wannabe1987 thats coo
19:07 wannabe1987 l
19:07 Sgt_Lemming there aren't that many I.T. jobs around in the area from what I can see though
19:12 Seroster Back
19:12 Sgt_Lemming front!
19:12 Seroster Boobies!
19:14 wannabe1987 where?
19:14 Sgt_Lemming right in front of you :-P
19:14 wannabe1987 :P
19:14 wannabe1987 yeah. they're mine.  so what about it
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19:16 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, having access to all the stuff at TGG would be a dream come true as well
19:17 wannabe1987 i bet
19:17 * wannabe1987 as orange juice!
19:17 wannabe1987 has*
19:18 Sgt_Lemming but yeah, things like making the dust extraction system on the SR100 is the sort of shite I excel at
19:18 Sgt_Lemming especially out of whatever parts I can get my hands on at the time
19:19 Sgt_Lemming there are bits and pieces of stuff I have built all over the place at HSBNE
19:21 wannabe1987 cool
19:21 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: no IT consultancy firms that handle smaall business stuff?
19:23 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, most of them require a drivers license
19:23 wannabe1987 you can acquire one, no?
19:23 Sgt_Lemming don't have one atm, and have to hold one for a year before I can get an international license afaik
19:24 Sgt_Lemming also I would have to get a visa that'd allow me to work, and afaik they are pretty hard to get unless you are very specialised or a company wants to sponsor you for it
19:26 wannabe1987 hire a driver? :P
19:27 Sgt_Lemming rofl
19:27 * wannabe1987 is still looking for work
19:27 Sgt_Lemming nah I think my best option would just to be to volunteer at TGG for a while
19:27 Sgt_Lemming work for food/lodgings basically :-P
19:27 Sgt_Lemming then look for work while I am there
19:29 wannabe1987 sounds good
19:31 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe
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19:31 * wannabe1987 hugs lee back
19:31 lwq1996 yay
19:31 wannabe1987 e-hugs are great, cuz when sick (like me) you don't get my germs :D
19:31 Sgt_Lemming lol
19:31 * Toastdude bro hugs lwq1996
19:31 wannabe1987 i hate being sick gahhhhh
19:32 * Sgt_Lemming dons a full bio suit and hugs wannabe1987 for real
19:32 lwq1996 yay  brohugs
19:32 wannabe1987 :D
19:32 lwq1996 why a bio suit
19:32 Toastdude See? You shouldn't have hugged me wannabe... :P
19:32 wannabe1987 what'd be awesome, but you're still in australia
19:32 wannabe1987 theres no men in this apt at this time
19:32 wannabe1987 why toast?
19:32 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996, cause she's sick
19:33 lwq1996 ah
19:33 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, be at least a few months till I could change that
19:33 Toastdude Cause you hugged me when I was sick, and now you're sick
19:33 wannabe1987 o.
19:33 lwq1996 lol
19:33 wannabe1987 damn.
19:33 wannabe1987 o well
19:33 Toastdude Lol
19:33 wannabe1987 i have OJ cuz a friend brought it to m :D
19:33 Sgt_Lemming two things I would def bring with me, my bike, and my computer :-P
19:33 wannabe1987 me*
19:33 Sgt_Lemming my pc's tiny though
19:33 wannabe1987 computer?  DUH
19:33 Sgt_Lemming so easy to pack onto a plane
19:33 lwq1996 lol
19:33 wannabe1987 netbook?  or does it have a tower
19:34 wannabe1987 .seen astro73|derrial
19:34 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw astro73|derrial 18.97 hours ago at 2011-09-25 00:36:10 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:34:16 UTC
19:34 wannabe1987 nice
19:34 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, it's a very small pc
19:34 Sgt_Lemming mini-itx based, so about the size of a large shoebox
19:35 wannabe1987 pic?
19:35 lwq1996 is it a tower
19:35 wannabe1987 i don't know what mini-itx is
19:35 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996, technically no
19:35 lwq1996 i saw one of those before and i want it
19:35 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987 https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/ComputerStuff#5613826399716867938 <--- with the case off
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19:36 wannabe1987 hi LinuxH4x0r|mini
19:36 LinuxH4x0r|mini hi
19:36 LinuxH4x0r|mini trying to get my phone working -_-
19:36 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, a normal pc motherboard is 12" x 10"
19:37 LinuxH4x0r|mini porting number from t-mobile to virgin
19:37 Sgt_Lemming this one is 7" x 7"
19:37 wannabe1987 ooo
19:37 Sgt_Lemming slightly less than actually
19:37 Sgt_Lemming 6.75 iirc
19:37 LinuxH4x0r|mini anyone here know any good android irc apps?
19:37 LinuxH4x0r|mini *free
19:37 lwq1996 looks like a brick
19:37 wannabe1987 andchat
19:37 tlockley androchat
19:37 tlockley andchat mybad
19:37 LinuxH4x0r|mini thanks
19:37 Sgt_Lemming LinuxH4x0r|mini, there are tonnes on the android marketplace
19:38 LinuxH4x0r|mini yeah, thats why i asked
19:38 wannabe1987 i don't use it, but everyone that i know that irc's from an android based phone uses it :D
19:38 LinuxH4x0r|mini i wasn't sure if there was a better one
19:38 tlockley andchat actually works with SASL on Freenode wich is why i like it
19:38 Sgt_Lemming SSL?
19:38 tlockley .w SASL
19:38 BotSteve "Simple Authentication and Security Layer, a framework for authentication and data security in Internet protocols" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SASL
19:39 tlockley auth not encrytion
19:39 wannabe1987 lemming, what a strange looking pc
19:40 wannabe1987 i know a possible "in" for working at a large corporation doing IT work....
19:41 wannabe1987 her coworkers don't understand that doing IT work is like a puzzle...if thing one doesn't work, try thing two, three, or five.  what works time one might not work time 2
19:41 LinuxH4x0r|mini woot
19:42 LinuxH4x0r|mini phonw should work withing the next 10 mins
19:42 LinuxH4x0r|mini :D
19:42 wannabe1987 :D
19:42 tlockley yay
19:42 LinuxH4x0r|mini that also means I get internet at home :D
19:42 tlockley cell tethering>
19:42 LinuxH4x0r|mini hell yeah!
19:43 wannabe1987 you don't have interwebs at home?
19:43 wannabe1987 o.O
19:43 tlockley i wanna punch ATT so bad right now
19:43 LinuxH4x0r|mini all for less than t-mobile prepaid cost me :)
19:43 LinuxH4x0r|mini or about the same
19:43 LinuxH4x0r|mini not yet...
19:43 tlockley sweet
19:43 wannabe1987 nice
19:43 LinuxH4x0r|mini I have a giant wifi repeater rig
19:43 LinuxH4x0r|mini but theres a hill blocking it...
19:44 LinuxH4x0r|mini I live out in the middle of nowhere
19:45 * lwq1996 is going to get ready to get groceries
19:45 wannabe1987 noes don't leave me lee!
19:46 wannabe1987 LinuxH4x0r|mini hill or mountain?
19:46 lwq1996 you have sgt_lemming
19:46 lwq1996 ill be back....all wet
19:47 wannabe1987 o.O
19:47 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe....will you be ok untill i get back
19:48 lwq1996 sorry i got to go...bye
19:48 wannabe1987 i think so.  i have cj
19:48 wannabe1987 on fb
19:48 wannabe1987 ok bye
19:48 LinuxH4x0r|mini hill
19:48 LinuxH4x0r|mini its just big enough to block signals
19:48 LinuxH4x0r|mini but too big to run wires
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19:51 LinuxH4x0r|mini bbl
19:51 LinuxH4x0r|mini I'll be on more now that I have internet :D
19:51 wannabe1987 yay ok
19:53 * wannabe1987 gets to go swimming tuesday :D
19:54 Sgt_Lemming mesa back
19:54 wannabe1987 yay
19:54 Sgt_Lemming was away getting food
19:54 wannabe1987 yum
19:54 wannabe1987 its 3:54 but ok :P
19:54 Sgt_Lemming 05:54 here
19:55 wannabe1987 two hour difference! :P
19:56 CaptainNiobe wannabe, that's am, not pm... lemming and i live in the same city lol
19:56 Sgt_Lemming hence the 0 in front of it
19:56 wannabe1987 i know
19:56 wannabe1987 i'm not stupid CaptainNiobe :P
19:56 * wannabe1987 tackle hugs (in bio suit) CaptainNiobe
19:57 wannabe1987 there, now i can't infect you
19:57 wannabe1987 so wahts capt Niobe gonna do, Sgt_Lemming when you move here?
19:57 Sgt_Lemming nfi
19:57 CaptainNiobe lol... sorry... i r tired... :D *big tacklehugs back and never mind getting sick* :D
19:57 wannabe1987 she gonna take over your hackerspace
19:58 CaptainNiobe lol... like hell, i'm a paying member, nothing more
19:58 wannabe1987 lol
19:58 wannabe1987 yay ppl don't mind being sick :P
19:58 wannabe1987 thats why ehugs are great
19:58 Sgt_Lemming any paying member has the right to stand for a position on the executive committee at any duly called meeting
19:58 CaptainNiobe buzz would have to find himself a new president...
19:58 wannabe1987 cool
19:58 Sgt_Lemming indeed
19:59 CaptainNiobe lol... lemming, you know who'd jump in first chance, right? :D
19:59 Sgt_Lemming no-one would vote for him
19:59 CaptainNiobe i would hope not lol
20:00 Sgt_Lemming did you see his comment re the camera earlier?
20:00 CaptainNiobe no, haven't read it... did he respond as expected?
20:00 Sgt_Lemming pretty much
20:00 Sgt_Lemming tis in the #hsbne channel if you look
20:00 CaptainNiobe *snorts* yah, sounds like him...
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20:02 wannabe1987 hi SparkyProjects
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20:04 speedrunnerg55 hey wannabe
20:04 wannabe1987 speedrunnerg55!!!! you're alive!
20:04 speedrunnerg55 i came out of my mine
20:05 Toastdude speedrunnerg55!!!
20:05 speedrunnerg55 ugh... wannabe, i nearly commented "nyan~" on your profile picture
20:05 wannabe1987 NOES!!!!
20:05 wannabe1987 i'd delete it
20:05 wannabe1987 cuz thats MY cat
20:05 speedrunnerg55 lol
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20:10 wannabe1987 mom said something about going to bed earlier....why would i do that/!
20:11 wannabe1987 ?!*
20:11 CaptainNiobe urgh, sun just-rising sun just risen directly into my eyes... BRIGHT! O.O
20:11 wannabe1987 ouch
20:11 Toastdude :(
20:12 * CaptainNiobe uses handy clothing as sunshade
20:13 wannabe1987 thats what clothes are for :P
20:14 CaptainNiobe lol... not this particuar item, but it was at hand, so it got the job :P
20:15 Seroster Damn stralians.
20:15 CaptainNiobe what, weed? :D
20:16 * wannabe1987 was sarcastic, but ok
20:16 wannabe1987 you using underwear o.o
20:16 CaptainNiobe a bra to be precise... lol... :D
20:16 CaptainNiobe weed... get that thought outta your head... :P
20:16 angy I just read something about using Seroster underwear ?>
20:17 wannabe1987 what? no
20:17 wannabe1987 no
20:17 wannabe1987 no
20:17 wannabe1987 no
20:17 wannabe1987 no
20:17 wannabe1987 no
20:17 Seroster No
20:17 * wannabe1987 floods
20:17 Seroster Using me AS underwear
20:17 wannabe1987 NO
20:17 Seroster ANd one more no and you are kicked, wannabe1987  =P
20:17 * wannabe1987 floods (in her mind)
20:17 Seroster Do you want to use my underwear, angy?
20:18 * lwq1996 is back
20:18 angy erm... let's stick to use you as an underwear, shall we?
20:18 lwq1996 hi kelly
20:19 wannabe1987 leeeee you survived!!!!!!!!!!
20:19 wannabe1987 hi
20:19 lwq1996 what do you think i am...a witch that would melt in water
20:19 Seroster Heh
20:19 wannabe1987 no, someone would kill you
20:20 Seroster My practial electric teacher saw me screwing a screw on an outlet that i had in my hand, and he demanded to see my palm
20:20 Seroster He noticed the small round scars I had and said "Good. I don't have to tell you about the dangers of using a screwdriver in such a fashion"
20:20 lwq1996 lol
20:20 * CaptainNiobe snorts at sero's story
20:21 CaptainNiobe tell him to go see your yt vids?
20:21 * lwq1996 gots to go to town to get groceries
20:21 Seroster Hrm? =P
20:21 Seroster Wich one?
20:21 CaptainNiobe youtube vids
20:21 * lwq1996 waves
20:21 lwq1996 later everyone
20:21 CaptainNiobe g'day lee
20:21 wannabe1987 i thought you left?
20:21 wannabe1987 ..........
20:21 Seroster Yes... Wich of my yt vids?
20:21 Seroster I already stalked his wife.
20:21 Toastdude Bye lwq1996
20:21 lwq1996 no i went to take a shower
20:21 wannabe1987 fine lee bye
20:22 wannabe1987 .
20:22 * lwq1996 hugs everyone
20:22 Seroster ...Anna wants you to give me good grades. Or else...
20:22 lwq1996 ov ware
20:22 CaptainNiobe all the techy ones? like the motor you got? just to show him you *aren't* a complete novice?
20:22 Seroster He knows
20:23 Seroster The first day we had him we chatted after class "You are a notch above the other kids, eh?"
20:23 Seroster "...Yeah." "How good are you?" "I understand how threephase systems work."
20:24 Seroster And then his jaw dropped a bit and... I have to just spend time building a contact net while the other people struggle with the difference between an incadecent light and a fluorecent one.
20:24 CaptainNiobe perhaps you may be able to lend some assistance...
20:24 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it's up to 46dBmV upstream..... hmmm..... I really need to figrue out a way to automate this lookup and chart it over time
20:25 Seroster I already do =)
20:25 tonsofpcs (and 2 dBmV downstrea)
20:25 Seroster Btw, the people who are nice to me get assistance. Those who are not... =P
20:25 Seroster He liked my quadtetrahedron too
20:25 tonsofpcs quadtetrahedron? aligned bases or somesuch?
20:26 wannabe1987 can you pay with it?  like if something is four bucks can you give it to them?
20:26 CaptainNiobe lol... in a classroom environment, i think all the bad crap can be shifted aside...
20:26 Seroster Thing is this time around I dont feel for being nice
20:27 * wannabe1987 has peeps
20:27 CaptainNiobe aww... but it's school, it's education... :D
20:27 Seroster Exactly, so fuck the ones who are in my way =P
20:28 CaptainNiobe lol... i say give them the help they need, show them up as to who's smarter (without showing off)
20:29 Seroster They already know I'm on top, that's why they try to bully me
20:30 CaptainNiobe yeah, but look at it this way: the more they need help you can help them with, the more often they'll virtually get told they aren't as smart as you... payback is a bitch, and being subtle about it (by teaching them), you don't lower yourself to their level...
20:31 Seroster I have no problem lowering =D
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20:32 Toastdude Hi Hackbat_Win8
20:32 CaptainNiobe hon, by lowering yourself to their level, it makes you look as bad as them... show them up some... :D
20:32 Hackbat_Win8 yNos|away, Cprossu either one of you awake?
20:32 Seroster Again, I dont mind =D
20:32 Hackbat_Win8 heyo Toastdude
20:33 CaptainNiobe lol... ok, sero... your choice, i guess... i just see better ways to go about it, that's all...
20:34 Seroster But I'm having fun messing with their tiny empty heads
20:36 wannabe1987 typica
20:36 wannabe1987 l
20:47 * Toastdude is bored
20:47 * CaptainNiobe is also bored
20:48 * wannabe1987 gives you a board
20:49 * tlockley was bored till i had a brain flash
20:49 * CaptainNiobe wonders what to do with a board
20:50 * BatSteve boards a ship and hoists the jolly roger
20:50 tonsofpcs Anyone have a good way to automatically gather statistics from a DOCSIS modem and graph them?  (upstream and downstream power levels, downstream SNR, and statuses)  (All the items that need graphing are available from the modem's HTTPd)
20:50 * CaptainNiobe gives BatSteve the board wannabe1987 gave her, thinking he may need it
20:51 tlockley write a scraper
20:51 Toastdude Hi tlockley
20:51 BatSteve Yo ho ho.
20:51 wannabe1987 what, you want BatSteve to walk the plank?!  how evil!
20:51 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, there is a mod for smoothwall that can often do it
20:51 Sgt_Lemming depends on whether it's a supported modem or not though
20:51 CaptainNiobe HAHA! maybe... :P
20:52 tonsofpcs oo, hmm, seems the dude can do it with some mods *tries*
20:52 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs ...?
20:53 wannabe1987 CaptainNiobe how long does it take for you to get to california by boat?
20:53 CaptainNiobe wannabe1987, i don't have a clue... why?
20:53 wannabe1987 cuz.  i was wondering when you'd come visit!
20:54 * angy hugs tonsofpcs
20:54 angy damnit
20:54 CaptainNiobe lol... that's sweet... but i could never afford the trip, even by boat...
20:54 * angy hugs Toastdude
20:54 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987 http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=Brisbane,+Queensland+to+California,+United+States&amp;saddr=Brisbane,+Queensland&amp;daddr=California,+United+States&amp;hl=en&amp;sll=-27.521384,153.028811&amp;sspn=0.015414,0.032187&amp;geocode=FSkWXf4dyf8eCSkz0pOsmleRazFAr97zWqMCBA%3BFRUxMQIdtNPh-Ck9Xihf_rmPgDFVbwgnoglRiw&amp;vpsrc=0&amp;t=h&amp;z=3
20:54 * Toastdude hugs angy
20:54 Sgt_Lemming 54 days according to ze googles
20:54 wannabe1987 o.O
20:54 CaptainNiobe eek! long time, lemming! O.O
20:55 wannabe1987 i know.  i'll fly there and we'll spend two months getting back :P
20:56 wannabe1987 110: kayak across the pacific ocean
20:56 CaptainNiobe LOL!!! that WOULD be sweet! :D but you can afford it even les than i can, kelly :-\
20:56 wannabe1987 i didn't say right now
20:56 wannabe1987 i have af ree flight to anywhere in the US atm
20:56 wannabe1987 i just don't know who to visit
20:56 Sgt_Lemming anywhere in the us doesn't cover flying here :-P
20:56 tonsofpcs hrm....
20:57 tonsofpcs hi angy
20:57 wannabe1987 iknow
20:57 wannabe1987 but it covers me to cali!
20:57 Sgt_Lemming lol
20:57 CaptainNiobe MoM's in florida...
20:57 Sgt_Lemming what about getting back though?
20:57 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: do you have a free flight back too?
20:57 wannabe1987 free round trip, so i hope so!
20:58 tonsofpcs hawaii/alaska barred?
20:58 wannabe1987 o.O  from GRR to BNE its 1533 round trip (flying)
20:58 CaptainNiobe how'd you manage to score a free round trip flight?
20:58 wannabe1987 tons i think so, but puerto rico is included
20:58 wannabe1987 so is some place in mexico :P
20:58 wannabe1987 cancun
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21:02 * CaptainNiobe grabs board back off BatSteve to be bored with
21:03 wannabe1987 whatcha gonna do w/ the wood, CaptainNiobe
21:03 CaptainNiobe be bored with it... :D
21:03 injektion pfsense 2.0 is out :DD
21:03 wannabe1987 o.O
21:03 BatSteve and how much of it would a CaptainNiobe chuck?
21:04 CaptainNiobe *scratches head* huh? it's 7am and i haven't been to bed yet - please explain? O.O :D
21:05 BatSteve It's a rhyme
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21:05 CaptainNiobe ahh... my dumb
21:05 BatSteve "How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood"
21:05 wannabe1987 welcome to 'merica....where our rhymes are weird
21:05 wannabe1987 hi AgCNO6
21:05 CaptainNiobe that's a rhyme? more like a tongue-twister...
21:06 wannabe1987 yes.  that
21:06 CaptainNiobe i can't even say it once, let alone ten times lol
21:08 Sgt_Lemming http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/Z68-ITX_WIFI/images/board_full.gif <--- lol
21:08 wannabe1987 i can, but i grew up with it
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21:09 wannabe1987 TOAST
21:09 Sgt_Lemming the new board I am looking with a 6950 installed into it
21:09 wannabe1987 hi tesla4d
21:09 * angy hugs Toastdude
21:09 Toastdude WANNABE
21:09 * Toastdude hugs angy
21:09 tesla4d HELLO
21:09 Toastdude HI
21:10 CaptainNiobe hey? :)
21:10 Toastdude Hey :)
21:10 wannabe1987 hi
21:10 CaptainNiobe g'day :P
21:10 Toastdude :P
21:11 tonsofpcs hmmm.... anyone here an snmp expert?
21:11 tonsofpcs (or, ya know, just know more than I? :)
21:11 injektion I wish I could help you tonsofpcs
21:11 tonsofpcs like, how does snmp communicate?  how can I tell if a device has snmp turned on?
21:12 tonsofpcs *pokes Cprossu*
21:12 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, generally there will be an option in the config for it
21:12 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: it's a cable modem, I can't access the config, that's locked.
21:13 Sgt_Lemming what modem is it?
21:13 tonsofpcs surfboard 5100
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21:14 Sgt_Lemming cool
21:14 Sgt_Lemming I know them well
21:14 Ponko hey all
21:14 Sgt_Lemming no snmp on them afaik
21:14 wannabe1987 PONKO!
21:14 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: :(
21:14 Ponko WANNABE1987!!!!!!!
21:14 tonsofpcs trying to figure out a way to graph their stats over tie.
21:14 wannabe1987 HOW ARE YOU?!
21:14 Ponko good
21:15 CaptainNiobe i think i need to go to bed... pretty tired here... and i'm still staving off a slight headache, so... :-\ goodnight everyone... *gives hugs all around*
21:15 Toastdude Hi Ponko!
21:15 wannabe1987 night niobe!
21:15 wannabe1987 sleep well
21:15 Seroster cya CaptainNiobe|AFK
21:15 Toastdude Night CaptainNiobe|AFK !!
21:15 Ponko Toastdude :)
21:15 CaptainNiobe|AFK night :)
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21:18 Ponko lol the Bills and Lions are 3-0
21:18 Ponko the world is ending
21:18 angy Hey! P'ky!
21:18 Ponko alright angy
21:18 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs http://community.smoothwall.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=26&amp;t=23844
21:18 Sgt_Lemming I highly HIGHLY reccomend smoothwall
21:18 Sgt_Lemming it's awesome
21:18 Sgt_Lemming I've run lans of 200 people behind a smoothwall and had 0 problems
21:20 BatSteve time to go write overengineered python code
21:20 BatSteve solong all
21:20 Sgt_Lemming cya steve
21:20 Ponko oh blimey
21:20 Toastdude Bye BatSteve-Away
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21:21 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: I have a working routerwall (mikrotik routerboard 450G w/ routeros).  I'm having cable issues (I think it's node-side) and need to gather data.
21:21 tonsofpcs trying to figure out a way to chart the data from the modem.
21:22 Sgt_Lemming replace the routerwall with a smoothwall temporarily?
21:22 tonsofpcs rates and such I can already chart.
21:22 Sgt_Lemming it can do it all using the mod I linked
21:22 Sgt_Lemming Captures and graphs the signal strength information from a broadband modem's web interface.
21:22 Sgt_Lemming For a cable modem, the logged data is:
21:22 Sgt_Lemming Downstream Signal/Noise Ratio
21:22 Sgt_Lemming Downstream Power Level
21:22 Sgt_Lemming Upstream Power Level
21:22 Sgt_Lemming DSL modems log those as well as:
21:22 Sgt_Lemming Upstream Signal/Noise Ratio
21:22 Sgt_Lemming Downstream Line Attenuation
21:22 Sgt_Lemming Upstream Line Attenuation
21:22 Sgt_Lemming Downstream Line Speed
21:22 Sgt_Lemming Upstream Line Speed
21:22 Sgt_Lemming sorry for wall'o'text
21:22 Seroster Ffs Sgt_Lemming =P
21:22 Sgt_Lemming but worth looking at
21:22 Sgt_Lemming back in a while
21:23 tonsofpcs i could probably stick it on the lan somewhere.....
21:24 angy go punch a techie from the cable company?
21:26 tonsofpcs angy: eh, that won't fix it
21:26 tonsofpcs calling the guy who was sitting across the table from me at the diner at 1 in the morning might....
21:26 angy if you punch the right, it may...
21:34 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: love smoothwall
21:34 Cprossu heh
21:35 tonsofpcs Cprossu!
21:35 Cprossu hey tonsofpcs connection issues still?
21:36 tonsofpcs Cprossu: well, there were two right after he left
21:36 Toastdude Hi Cprossu
21:36 tonsofpcs so I want to somehow probe it and graph the data
21:36 wannabe1987 it might be naptime in a bit....
21:37 Cprossu I've got a mod installed on my smoothwall that does exactly that
21:37 tonsofpcs yea, Sgt_Lemming was showing me it.
21:37 tonsofpcs I don't have a smoothwall and I'd rather not set one up if I don't have to.  (If I had VMWare working, I'd just run a VM)
21:38 Sythen tonsofpcs: what modulation is your cable modem using?
21:39 Cprossu well making a quick python script shouldn't be an issue
21:39 Cprossu to scrub the data
21:39 tonsofpcs Sythen: QAM...
21:39 Seroster ARRRRRRRR
21:40 tonsofpcs Seroster: talk like a pirate day was last week.
21:40 Seroster I always do
21:40 Seroster Anyhow
21:40 Seroster Bedtime
21:40 Seroster Cya folks
21:41 Sythen QAM64 or QAM256?
21:41 tonsofpcs no. 4.
21:41 Cprossu http://www.gamerspage.com/ModemLogger1030_LV1016.zip
21:41 Seroster No thanks. I'll have a pizza
21:41 Sythen mmmmm
21:41 Cprossu ^ running windows tonsofpcs?
21:41 tonsofpcs Cprossu: on one of these machines, sue
21:41 Cprossu found a logger at least
21:41 tonsofpcs *sure
21:42 Cprossu Recieved Data
21:42 Cprossu 9/25/2011 14:41:20
21:42 Cprossu SNR: '38'
21:42 Cprossu USPwr: '49'
21:42 Cprossu USFreq: '36100000'
21:42 Cprossu USChan: '5'
21:42 Cprossu DSPwr: '0'
21:42 Cprossu DSFreq: '843000000'
21:42 Cprossu woo
21:42 Sythen ahh, roadrunner customer, i wont be able to help, thats crap
21:43 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell lwq1996 that wannabe1987 took a nap, she'll be awake later i think
21:43 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when lwq1996 is around.
21:43 tonsofpcs like the freq will change.....
21:44 Cprossu yeah tonsofpcs that's a good indication that you have noise on the line
21:44 Cprossu if it hunts freq's
21:44 Sythen the frequency shouldnt change if the modem aquires a solid lock with the cab
21:44 Cprossu because I never blame the modem, tripple if it's a sb5100.
21:44 Sythen ooooo, sb5100 series, very nice modems
21:44 Cprossu Sythen all it takes is 3 soft fails for a freq change.
21:45 Cprossu Sythen specifically the 5100(as in not 5101 or 5120)
21:45 Sythen but the frequency shouldnt change while the modem has a lock
21:45 Cprossu so it's as solid of a modem as motorola ever made.
21:45 Cprossu Sythen it happens
21:45 Sythen might be the difference in systems we have
21:46 Cprossu possibly. over here at least (on Cox) the sucker will hunt and peck until it's error free.
21:46 Cprossu and error free is <3 soft errors
21:46 Cprossu speaking of sb5100's I had a cox tech shit bricks at me
21:46 Sythen oh?
21:46 Cprossu wanted me to reboot my cable modem
21:47 Cprossu because it 'had been on for 230 days'
21:47 Cprossu I didn't though rofl.
21:47 tonsofpcs ugh, I can't run that without the activex redistributables for winsock...
21:47 Sythen gotta love the reliability of em
21:47 Cprossu the 5120's were absolute crap. gotta hate that TI chipset.
21:48 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yea, you should see the log of my online chat with "support"
21:48 Cprossu I've really been debating though
21:48 Cprossu my area just got support for the motorola 6180
21:48 Cprossu I am really freaking tempted.
21:48 Sythen this is the basic outline on how our cable systems work
21:48 Sythen http://tinyurl.com/66wtha3
21:49 Sythen your network started implementing docsis 3?
21:49 tonsofpcs RG6 coax, I wish....
21:49 Cprossu a long ass time ago Sythen
21:49 tonsofpcs and an optical node lol
21:49 Cprossu Phoenix,Az was probably one of the first to have docsis 3 systems
21:49 tonsofpcs bah, memory failing on this PC, brb
21:50 Cprossu Sythen: we had docsis back in aug 2009.
21:50 Cprossu *docsis 3.0*
21:51 Sgt_Lemming bleh
21:51 Sgt_Lemming my heart should not be going this fast after having a shower >_<
21:52 Sythen these were the first docsis 3 modems issued by my isp
21:52 Sythen http://www.theinquirer.net/img/10945/shiny-virgin.jpg?1241332171
21:52 Cprossu but I've been running my sb5100 since getting it sent from motorola directly to replace my sb4200... which somehow started outputting 65VAC out on the coax ground sheeth.
21:52 Sythen jesus wept
21:52 Cprossu they couldn't explain why it had happened either.
21:52 Cprossu just that it 'did'.
21:53 Sythen one of my sites still has a 4200
21:53 Sythen still running solid
21:53 Cprossu mine still ran
21:53 Cprossu just it outputted ac voltage
21:53 Cprossu which didn't make touching anything cable wise fun.
21:53 Cprossu nice tingle.
21:54 Cprossu the operator didn't believe me, the truck guy didn't believe me until he found the ground was fine and then while taking stuff apart got zapped, the customer service from motorola didn't believe the service tech, and not me as well
21:55 Cprossu thus they finally gave up, sent a new cable modem with a packing label to send the old one back, and it was a nice brand new sb5100!
21:55 Sythen not suprised
21:55 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, when I was working at Telstra, I had a customer call in with a disconnections issue
21:55 Sgt_Lemming checked their line
21:55 Sythen the 4200's are shit old now
21:55 Sgt_Lemming 490v of foreign voltage on the line
21:55 Cprossu yikes.
21:55 Cprossu that's quite a lot
21:55 tonsofpcs back
21:55 Sgt_Lemming just a touch
21:56 tonsofpcs Cprossu: 65VAC on the coax shield?
21:56 Cprossu yes.
21:56 tonsofpcs wtf kind of horrible power supply design do they have that the caps can short in such a manner to allow that to happen!?!?
21:56 Cprossu I really don't know what happened
21:57 tonsofpcs some caps failed shorted (and maybe tin whiskers across a coil too)....
21:58 Cprossu the funny thing was the damn thing still connected and worked fine
21:58 tonsofpcs erm... on a 75ohm line, that's..... yeeow....
21:59 Cprossu not sure how much you could measure on the other side
21:59 Cprossu but right off the cable modem it was 65.
22:04 tonsofpcs relative to where?
22:04 Cprossu house ground
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22:06 Cprossu you could literally plug the modem into power and nothing else, have nothing else attached and the ground plate and F connector's thrreads read 65vac.
22:06 tonsofpcs well, you shouldn't be operating it unterminated
22:07 Cprossu that was to see if the voltage on the line was coming from it
22:07 Cprossu it was.
22:07 * tonsofpcs hands Cprossu a 75ohm terminator
22:07 Cprossu well it's been at motorola's headquarters for years now
22:08 Cprossu wherever that is
22:08 tonsofpcs heh
22:08 tonsofpcs you know you did something good when 6 months later you get a call from an engineer asking for further details on what happened to cause an issue
22:09 Cprossu well I got a call back from mot saying they replicated the condition
22:09 Cprossu and considering their replacement modem has been running nice since I think it was 2002
22:10 Cprossu I have no complaints!
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22:13 injektion Is the Roku set top box decent?
22:13 tlockley I like em
22:14 Cprossu I have so far found no set top box that doesn't require 'dicking around with'
22:14 tonsofpcs injektion: depends on the version
22:14 injektion I'm scared of my brother and his GF using my iPad plugged into the tv for netflix
22:15 Cprossu injektion build a small pc?
22:15 Cprossu those AMD e-350's look damn nice
22:15 tonsofpcs ipad for netflix on tv?!?!
22:15 injektion yes
22:15 tonsofpcs injektion: buy an older roku cheap
22:15 injektion The iPad 2 has video out
22:15 tonsofpcs that's what I did for my second tv
22:16 Cprossu I've really been debating nabbing one of these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131697
22:16 injektion How much could I build a small pc for that can do netflix it doesn't need to be HD because the TV in question lacks HDMI
22:17 KernelTrap injektion: JUST GET A NETBOOK
22:17 KernelTrap IT'LL BE CHEAPER, MOST LIKELY
22:17 KernelTrap ER
22:17 KernelTrap capslock
22:17 Cprossu ouch, what in the hell outputs does it have injektion?
22:17 KernelTrap sorry xD
22:17 Cprossu *inputs
22:17 Cprossu \rofl
22:17 tonsofpcs the old roku has composite and coponent
22:17 injektion All it has is RCA video and audio in
22:17 Cprossu ewwww
22:17 KernelTrap hm...
22:18 tonsofpcs I haven't used the roku2...
22:18 KernelTrap well then, find an olf P4 box and a video card with composite out
22:18 injektion The 2 has RCA video
22:18 tonsofpcs $60 looks like a decent price
22:19 Cprossu that's cheap
22:19 Cprossu for $60 do it lol
22:21 Cprossu then again that should buy you a piece of shit blu ray player with netflix
22:21 Sgt_Lemming KernelTrap, actually no
22:21 Sgt_Lemming you can build a mini-itx pc for less than a netbook
22:22 injektion Cprossu, I don't have a use for bluray
22:22 Cprossu for sure Sgt_Lemming: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186212
22:22 Cprossu granted I would rather asus than foxconn
22:22 Sgt_Lemming my mini-itx fileserver with 12TB of drives cost me less than $1400
22:22 Sgt_Lemming and it's quite a beastly little machine
22:23 Sgt_Lemming if you get an atom of fusion based board, you can do it for about $200
22:23 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131732
22:23 tonsofpcs my netbook cost $150....
22:23 Cprossu ^ 6 sata ports onboard
22:23 Cprossu both of my netbooks cost me $200 each
22:23 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, mines a core i3 530
22:23 Cprossu nice.
22:23 Sgt_Lemming board was $125, cpu was iirc $110
22:23 Sgt_Lemming this is in feburary btw
22:24 Cprossu what did you use for a power supply?
22:24 Cprossu and/or case?
22:24 Sgt_Lemming corsair hx-650 psu
22:24 KernelTrap well, Cprossu, case isn't so important, really
22:25 Sgt_Lemming lian-li pc-q08 case
22:25 Cprossu yikes Sgt_Lemming
22:25 Cprossu yeah that puts you over the netbook mark lol
22:25 KernelTrap FAR over the netbook mark
22:25 KernelTrap and remember
22:25 KernelTrap netbooks include a monitor
22:25 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, overkill I know, but I wanted it to be stable, quiet and modular psu was neccessary for the case
22:25 KernelTrap and keyboard/mouse
22:25 KernelTrap and speakers
22:25 Sgt_Lemming KernelTrap, he specified it was to go with a tv
22:25 KernelTrap and boot disk
22:25 Cprossu KernelTrap moot point.
22:25 Sgt_Lemming so monitor and speakers are a moot point
22:26 KernelTrap Sgt_Lemming: boot disk, keyboard, mouse
22:26 Sgt_Lemming hard disk is a minor expense
22:26 tonsofpcs roku: $60
22:26 Cprossu keyboard and mouse on the netbook you ain't gonna use. moot point.
22:26 tonsofpcs your crazy setup: $200 base
22:26 tonsofpcs heck, for $200 you can get a network attached bluray player
22:27 Cprossu heck tonsofpcs $65 gets you one of those
22:27 Cprossu http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Insignia%26%23153%3B+-+Refurbished+Blu-ray+Player/2097336.p?id=1218309065352&amp;skuId=2097336
22:27 Cprossu just a shitty one.
22:27 injektion network attached bluray players scare me
22:28 KernelTrap injektion: why?
22:28 injektion I don't want the chance the DRM
22:28 tonsofpcs injektion: huh?
22:28 KernelTrap how's the DRM gonna affect something outside the bluray player?
22:28 injektion Key revocation
22:29 injektion The DRM that the RIAA/MPAA want to force on people make most DRM schemes seem sane
22:29 Sgt_Lemming can't affect netflix playback injektion
22:29 Sythen get a wdtv, play with the firmware
22:29 KernelTrap injektion: the DRM the RIAA/MPAA want will never happen.
22:29 angy Sythen: Teat time! (:
22:29 Sythen theres a fair amount of homebrew stuffs for it
22:30 Sythen i already has tea heh
22:32 Ponko oh god my fiancee has tried to dye her hair pink and has dyed it some what ginger
22:33 Sythen ROFL
22:33 Sgt_Lemming KernelTrap, $202 for a 1.6GHz AMD fusion based machine with 160GB HDD and 2GB ram
22:33 Ponko well hopfully she'll rectify that
22:33 Sgt_Lemming bit hard to beat that with a netbook
22:33 angy he may like it
22:33 angy s/he/she
22:34 Sgt_Lemming closest newegg comes is $249
22:35 Sgt_Lemming injektion, want the details on it?
22:35 KernelTrap Sgt_Lemming: newegg has awful prices
22:35 Sgt_Lemming KernelTrap, then show me a cheaper one?
22:35 Cprossu KernelTrap: ????
22:35 Cprossu they're prices are decent.
22:35 Sgt_Lemming cheaper than $202, not refurbished and with similar or better specs
22:36 Cprossu *even their
22:36 Ponko lol apparently its gone beetroot juice colour
22:36 injektion Yes Sgt_Lemming
22:36 angy dye yourself blue then
22:36 Ponko NOOO
22:37 Ponko its too short
22:37 angy /all/ of yourself!
22:37 KernelTrap Sgt_Lemming: hell, i've seen a little atom netbook at WALMART for under $250
22:37 Sgt_Lemming under $250 still sounds like it's over $202
22:37 KernelTrap under $200
22:37 Sgt_Lemming and also, it's atom based, which means crappy onboard graphics at best
22:37 KernelTrap was like $180
22:38 KernelTrap and?
22:38 KernelTrap it's netflix
22:38 KernelTrap you're not playing crysis
22:38 Sgt_Lemming flash based video can be quite hard on the gpu
22:38 Sgt_Lemming especially high res/high quality
22:38 tlockley netflix uses silverlight
22:38 tlockley but stilla cpu hog
22:38 Sgt_Lemming same shit different smell
22:38 Cprossu I've managed a decent machine but it's still $223
22:38 KernelTrap Sgt_Lemming: I get 120fps in L4D2 at max settings with an intel GPU
22:39 tlockley o_O
22:39 Sgt_Lemming bull fucking shit KernelTrap
22:39 Cprossu sandy bridge KernelTrap?
22:39 KernelTrap Cprossu: no, x4500
22:39 Sgt_Lemming unless you are running it at 640 x 480
22:39 Cprossu then bullshit.
22:39 KernelTrap Cprossu: have you USEd the x4500?
22:39 Cprossu your textures must look like ASS.
22:39 Sgt_Lemming even then I doubt it Cprossu, the sandy bridge gpu isn't that much better than the old ones
22:39 Cprossu yes I hate the fucker KernelTrap
22:39 Sgt_Lemming KernelTrap, I own 2 machines with the
22:40 Sgt_Lemming the aforementioned file server and a laptop
22:40 Sgt_Lemming the graphics on both suck balls
22:40 KernelTrap :\
22:40 KernelTrap yeahokay
22:40 Cprossu now as for $223 this is the best I can do
22:40 Sgt_Lemming I tried using the fileserver to play games on my tele and gave up cause it was crap
22:40 KernelTrap Sgt_Lemming: what games?
22:41 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133093 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148697 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148346 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186212
22:41 KernelTrap Sgt_Lemming: i've only had problems with shit like oblivion and crysis
22:41 Sgt_Lemming need for speed games mostly
22:41 Cprossu ^ will get you a decent media box
22:41 KernelTrap Sgt_Lemming: oh, need for speed is shittily written
22:41 KernelTrap it's like crysis. pretty, but needs a badder box than it should
22:41 KernelTrap any source game will run wonderfully on an x4500
22:41 Cprossu bullshit
22:41 KernelTrap try it, Cprossu
22:41 Cprossu gmod runs like ASS
22:41 Sgt_Lemming KernelTrap, shut the f up alread, you've been caught out bs'ing, accept it and move on already
22:42 Cprossu ask me how I know
22:42 KernelTrap i'm not BSing
22:42 Sgt_Lemming yes, yes you are
22:42 KernelTrap no, i'm not
22:42 Cprossu your graphics suck ass.
22:42 Sgt_Lemming [citations needed]
22:42 Cprossu if I can't get 299fps on flatdev with all the settings turned high I don't give a shit KernelTrap =P
22:42 Sgt_Lemming show a single benchmark of intel x4500 running a source based game well
22:43 KernelTrap Sgt_Lemming: want VIDEO?
22:44 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13CDhGfzBZs
22:44 Cprossu ^ yep looks like ass.
22:44 KernelTrap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjaNrym2caA
22:44 Sgt_Lemming no, I want a benchmark comparing it to other cards with specified settings, resolution and quality settings
22:44 Sgt_Lemming 20 FPS, wow!
22:44 Sgt_Lemming that's CRAP!
22:45 Cprossu [15:39] <KernelTrap> Sgt_Lemming: I get 120fps in L4D2 at max settings with an intel GPU
22:45 Sgt_Lemming also counter-strike source is about the least graphically demainding source game
22:45 Sgt_Lemming not to mention that looks like CRAP
22:45 Cprossu i? play the game on my intel gma 4500m at 1024 x 786 with over 50 fps look my channel
22:45 Cprossu ^ 50. lol
22:45 KernelTrap lol?
22:46 Cprossu KernelTrap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ikNsOMtMwk
22:46 KernelTrap Cprossu: have you ever gone to a movie theatre?
22:46 KernelTrap 25fps.
22:46 Cprossu ^ this is what l4d2 is supposed to look like
22:46 Cprossu yes and I can't stand it KernelTrap
22:46 Cprossu I also use CRT's
22:46 Sgt_Lemming KernelTrap, yup, drives me up the wall KernelTrap
22:46 Cprossu I also can't stand DLP TV's =P
22:46 KernelTrap Cprossu: that wasn't a video of l4d2 :\
22:46 KernelTrap you're comparing two different games
22:46 tonsofpcs KernelTrap: 25 fps? in a movie theater? not in the states....
22:46 KernelTrap tonsofpcs: yes, in the states
22:47 Sgt_Lemming NTSC != cinema
22:47 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: right.  25 FPS is 50Hz TV framerate.
22:47 KernelTrap Sgt_Lemming: most movies i've seen were FILMED at 25fps
22:47 * Sgt_Lemming nods
22:47 tonsofpcs Film generally runs 16fps or 24fps.
22:47 Sgt_Lemming bullshit KernelTrap
22:47 KernelTrap 24, yesh, sorry
22:48 tonsofpcs and US video-based film is often shot at 24*1000/1001 fps
22:48 Sgt_Lemming KernelTrap [many citations needed[
22:49 Cprossu but yes. I suppose at 640x480 in l4d2 with all settings min it's possible if you stare at the right wall to get over 100fps at one instant. @ KernelTrap
22:49 tonsofpcs you'll also see a lot of modern independent films shot at NTSC-based framerates.
22:49 tonsofpcs lol Cprossu
22:50 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, mainly cause it makes telesyncin easier
22:50 Cprossu but yes they call them 'flickers' for a reason KernelTrap. it doesn't mean I want that in my gaming =P
22:50 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: which? 24*1000/1001? of course.  It's the NTSC color compensation factor :)
22:51 Sgt_Lemming mmm, NTSC, Never The Same Colour
22:51 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: technically, NTSC is a colorless television standard, NTSC-II and NTSC-III added color to NTSC...
22:51 Sgt_Lemming fine, NTSC-II Never The Same Colour Twice :-P
22:51 tonsofpcs also, a standard NTSC-color set can be easily tweaked back into spec as it ages.  A standard PAL set cannot.
22:52 tonsofpcs and then there's SECAM....
22:52 Cprossu but yeah intel integrated, if not 2000 or 3000 on sandy bridge based chips is no substitute for a real graphics core.
22:52 Sgt_Lemming bah, bs, any decent set can be tweaked
22:52 tonsofpcs you missed "easily"
22:52 Sgt_Lemming that depends a lot on the set
22:52 Sgt_Lemming something like a Grundig or Loewe is awesome to work on
22:53 Sgt_Lemming most consumer brands are shite though
22:53 tonsofpcs to work on? you going inside them to fix color?
22:53 Cprossu anyone remember the 3dmark 2003 tech demo?
22:54 Cprossu man I thought it was cool back in the day. (as were the '00 and '01)
22:54 Sgt_Lemming whether it's done through a service menu, access panel or inside the set itself
22:54 Sgt_Lemming best part of 03 was the "game" built into it Cprossu
22:54 tonsofpcs right.  NTSC-color sets have a knob or a standard menu.
22:54 Sgt_Lemming the truck one
22:54 Cprossu the truck one was '01 I thought
22:54 Sgt_Lemming oh, mebe it was
22:55 Sgt_Lemming also tonsofpcs, trust the us to come up with their own damned system
22:55 tonsofpcs frist.
22:55 tonsofpcs also, we had more than one system.  We chose the one that was legacy compatbile.
22:56 tonsofpcs (that's where we get the 1000/1001)
22:56 Cprossu well once KernelTrap installs the game again whatever that means, he'll show us what 150FPS on l4d2 looks like on a gma 4500 (rofl.)
22:58 Ponko she did it
22:59 tonsofpcs oh noes
22:59 tonsofpcs what'd she do?
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23:08 tonsofpcs Cprossu: hmmm... maybe it is pumping...
23:09 tonsofpcs so far (1 minute intervals): 43 dBmV, 43, 47, 46, 48, ...
23:09 Cprossu wow
23:09 Cprossu it should pump up to like ~50 something
23:09 Cprossu then change channels
23:10 tonsofpcs it won't change channels if there's no other authorized channels.
23:11 tonsofpcs i'm going to let thtis keep running, I'll check it after I see an issue
23:11 Cprossu KernelTrap when you get the chance http://www.trailerz.demo-world.eu/hd/hd_distributor_columbia_pictures.rar <- see if you can download this. play it if you can and report back.
23:14 KernelTrap Cprossu: silky smooth
23:14 KernelTrap no stuttering whatsoever
23:16 KernelTrap and that's with  another video playing and serious sam running at the same time, too
23:16 KernelTrap and a bunch of flash shit in firefox
23:18 angy P'ky seems broken tonigt
23:18 KernelTrap either you're doing something wrong, i'm doign something especially right, or you've never used it and assume it's shit because intel GPU
23:19 KernelTrap you know what? I'll try another thing. I'll have four instances of VLC playing this at the same time.
23:19 KernelTrap see if that changes anything
23:19 tonsofpcs huh?
23:19 KernelTrap tonsofpcs: Cprossu's link
23:20 KernelTrap trying to say my GPU can't handle 1080p video
23:20 tonsofpcs Cprossu: my GPU on my eeepc can handle 1080p video...
23:20 KernelTrap aw, VLC won't let me try that
23:20 KernelTrap fine then, one in VLC, one in WMP, one in winamp
23:21 KernelTrap nope, still sooth
23:21 KernelTrap *smooth
23:21 kokona lol i just got reamed by Mr. boden about my spelling, i try my best but it is still really hard for me somtimes
23:23 Toastdude Hi kokona
23:23 kokona hi
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23:30 Ponko GO PACK GO
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23:41 kokona gtg guys ill talk to u all latter
23:41 egrsteve hello
23:42 angy H Steve
23:42 egrsteve hello angy
23:44 tonsofpcs even'n steve
23:45 tlockley hey steve
23:46 Toastdude Hi Steve
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23:50 tlockley well time to re-install virtualbox
23:50 thewii552 why has the live stream been down for the past while?
23:52 tlockley cause no one is at the lab to restart the box
23:52 tlockley or it is being fixed still

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