Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-09-26

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00:03 Ponko Bills, Lions & Green Bay are 3-0
00:03 Ponko world isn't ending yet
00:03 Ponko its still only started
00:16 somepolak joined #thegeekgroup
00:17 Toastdude Hi somepolak
00:18 angy Toasty8
00:18 Toastdude angy8
00:18 Toastdude :P
00:18 angy :)
00:19 Toastdude Ubj ner lbh natl?
00:19 tonsofpcs ugh
00:19 Toastdude Lo
00:19 Toastdude l
00:20 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it does burst power when it happens.... I caught a peak of 52dBmV
00:20 Toastdude Uv gbafbscpf
00:20 somepolak heyo
00:21 Toastdude Oh, the joys of encrypting :P
00:21 tonsofpcs Toastdude: I encrypt all IRC messages with Rot26.
00:22 Toastdude Lol
00:22 Toastdude I encrypt with Rot13
00:22 Toastdude That's what that is
00:22 tonsofpcs I know what it is.
00:22 Toastdude Ok
00:22 tonsofpcs Rot26 takes less processing power.
00:23 tonsofpcs but is just as strong
00:23 Toastdude Yep, so easy you can do it in your head
00:25 tonsofpcs the best part of my nick is the last four characters just flip order when you rot13 them ;)
00:26 Toastdude Hmm.... So it does
00:26 tonsofpcs scpf => fpcs
00:26 Toastdude Lol
00:26 tonsofpcs :D
00:26 Toastdude :D
00:26 tonsofpcs you didn't notice this when you did the rot13 hello?
00:27 Toastdude Now that I think of it, yes. I didn't look too closely....
00:28 tonsofpcs vg'f BX, gbnfgqhqr.
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00:28 tonsofpcs (careful, that's rot13'd then rot26'd)
00:30 Toastdude Lrf V xabj...
00:32 Toastdude Lnl, V'z qbjaybnqvat Nytbqbb 2.0!
00:32 Toastdude Eryrnfr pnaqvqngr, gung vf
00:35 tonsofpcs algodoo?
00:35 Toastdude 2D physics simulator
00:35 tonsofpcs oh
00:40 Toastdude Phun is that free version
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00:53 * angy hugs Toastdude
00:53 * Toastdude hugs angy
00:53 angy I'm having a very weird cocktail that is green!
01:07 tonsofpcs chatting with cable company again....
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01:08 tlockley sounds like its own brand of hell
01:08 * wannabe1987 wants to know whats in angy's cocktail
01:08 angy 1 part gin, 2 par curaçao, 4 part orange juice 4 parts tonic water
01:11 wannabe1987 curacao?
01:11 angy orange dried peel liquor
01:12 wannabe1987 ah
01:13 tonsofpcs oy
01:14 tonsofpcs angy: what do you callt his cocktail
01:14 tonsofpcs also, do I have any curacao... *checks*
01:14 angy the green thing
01:14 angy I did not think of a name yet
01:19 wannabe1987 fucking computer
01:20 wannabe1987 my friends computer is borked....and it set his pants on fire o.O
01:20 astro73|derrial wow
01:20 KernelTrap what
01:20 wannabe1987 "My computer is broke. The screen is cracked so that the bottom two thirds is useless. The cooling fan is off kilter enough that the computer constantly overheats. The graphics card is about ready to tear itself out and beat me with a stick. The processing speed is so shit that i have to wait for LETTERS AT A TIME to show up when i type them. I have been doing computational crap with a
01:20 wannabe1987 machine that has literally LIT MY PANTS ON FIRE. I disapprove of this."
01:20 wannabe1987 that
01:22 tlockley lolz
01:27 astro73|derrial BUY A NEW COMPUTER
01:27 astro73|derrial most people would have given up at "the screen is cracked"
01:27 wannabe1987 why am i still tired?!  i slept from 1a-noon, then 5:45 - 8:30
01:28 wannabe1987 well, astro73|derrial, he's broke (like me) and doesn't have a stedy job....he does audio and backstage work at the frauenthal in skeegon
01:29 tonsofpcs angy: I do indeed have triple sec... no OJ though :(
01:29 wannabe1987 i have oj!
01:29 angy triple sec works as well
01:29 tonsofpcs and I'm apparently out of tonic water
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01:29 tonsofpcs right, triple sec is curacao
01:29 angy not really
01:29 lwq-away hi
01:30 angy it can be a substitute, it will change the taste, but is quite related
01:30 wannabe1987 hi lee
01:31 * wannabe1987 got lots of sleep today...i wonder if i'll sleep at all tonight :S
01:32 astro73|derrial ok, there's a place on 28th street called ethrift.
01:32 tonsofpcs angy: really? cus everything I've read says that triple sec is a specific type of curacao
01:32 wannabe1987 whats ethrift?
01:32 wannabe1987 i don't ahve a browser open atm, running ccleaner, but i'd look it up if i could
01:32 astro73|derrial they sell craptastic computers, but they'll work if he doesn't try to run win7
01:32 angy nope, triple sec is very specific by using bitter oranges in the mix
01:33 astro73|derrial used computer sales
01:33 wannabe1987 or run portal? :P
01:33 angy erm..
01:33 angy I messed up the thing, using sweet oranges in the mix
01:33 astro73|derrial old, but cheap
01:33 angy curaçao is a liquor using solely green bitter oranges
01:33 * lwq1996 got 20 dollars tody
01:33 BotSteve lwq1996: I have the following messages for you:
01:33 BotSteve At 25 Sep 21:43Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell lwq1996 that wannabe1987 took a nap, she'll be awake later i think
01:33 astro73|derrial portal shouldn't cause typing issues
01:33 angy curaçao is a type of triple sec
01:34 wannabe1987 no, but wouldn't it use up the processor?
01:34 angy mostly is considered, I don't consider it as a triple sec myself
01:34 * lwq1996 needs 10 more dollars to get a decent multimeter
01:35 eadthem lwq1996 witch one you looking at?
01:35 lwq1996 a craftsman auto multi-meter
01:35 lwq1996 wait let me see if i can find it
01:37 angy and I tend to use most of the time perrier water instead of tonic
01:37 astro73|derrial wannabe1987: only if it's running. And if he's leaving games running in the background, he needs to be instructed in budget computing
01:38 astro73|derrial although i would imagine it's difficult to play games with only a third of the screen
01:38 lwq1996 eadthem....this is the one im looking at
01:38 lwq1996 http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_9990000031937611P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2
01:39 Toastdude Hi wannabe1987, lwq1996, and astro73|derrial
01:39 * angy hugs Toastdude
01:39 * Toastdude hugs angy
01:40 tonsofpcs oo, I have schweddy balls
01:40 wannabe1987 astro73|derrial i think all the stuff happened in one day...cuz we hung out weds and noone said anythinga bout computer issues....
01:40 wannabe1987 you do?  hows it taste?
01:41 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude
01:41 tonsofpcs I need to try it
01:41 tonsofpcs *now* :)
01:41 wannabe1987 start eating!
01:41 wannabe1987 i hear theres rum in it :D
01:41 tonsofpcs there is
01:41 wannabe1987 whether its rum flavoring or actual rum, idk
01:41 astro73|derrial btw, the store is http://comprenew.org/ethrift-store/
01:41 tonsofpcs *checks*
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01:42 astro73|derrial if you need old computers that still work, that's the place i would look
01:42 tonsofpcs yfrog.com/h3ezqdjj
01:42 astro73|derrial he should still be able to get a working dekstop for pretty cheap
01:43 astro73|derrial but it's not going to be a multitasking beast
01:43 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs is it rum flavoring or real rum?  cuz i don't think they'd be able to sell real rum in ice cream....think of the children!
01:43 * wannabe1987 can't open a browser atm....
01:43 astro73|derrial probably rum flavors
01:43 angy do I stay in North America or not?
01:43 wannabe1987 yes
01:43 wannabe1987 come here!
01:43 wannabe1987 we can drink together
01:43 wannabe1987 :P
01:43 tonsofpcs angy: depends.  Whose economy do you think will tank first?
01:43 eadthem http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_9990000031937511P?prdNo=1
01:43 astro73|derrial drinky drinky?
01:43 wannabe1987 bye Toast-Away
01:44 eadthem thats the same meter lwq1996 thats the same meter
01:44 wannabe1987 drinking is good :P
01:44 angy tonsofpcs: it's a tie quite now
01:44 eadthem but without the stupid voltage detetor
01:44 wannabe1987 i don't drink much ....
01:44 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: "rum" is in the ingreedients list
01:44 eadthem also about 7$ cheeper
01:44 wannabe1987 ooo
01:44 angy the fed in the USA tries to kill the euro, but it's quite resilient so far
01:44 astro73|derrial they're all going to tank at about the same time, when a moderately strong AI comes about
01:45 lwq1996 i think its maual ranging tho i want an auto rang
01:45 wannabe1987 brb reboot!
01:45 angy the stability of the euro-zone is quite not there currently
01:45 tonsofpcs angy: wait for greece to take the euro down, move to europe, wait for it to return, then return to NA when the economies here have tanked, profit!
01:45 lwq1996 damn it
01:45 astro73|derrial btw, does anyone know if ccleaner actually does anything? or is it all placebo?
01:46 eadthem ccleaner?
01:47 astro73|derrial what wannabe1987 is running
01:47 eadthem its spyware
01:47 eadthem instal that and you will be overrun inside a hour with every manner of horrable stuff
01:47 astro73|derrial ... with CNET giving it 5 stars?
01:48 astro73|derrial sorry, last i checked, CNET was considered at least mostly reputable
01:48 eadthem ya just learn to do it manualy
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01:48 lwq1996 yay i found one with auto rang
01:48 eadthem moderatly
01:48 wannabe-afk that was weird
01:48 astro73|derrial well, i run linux myself, i'm just curious what other people think of it
01:48 eadthem lwq1996 yay?
01:49 tonsofpcs ok, schweddy balls in a bowl now
01:49 lwq1996 i know how to do it manually but im lazy like that
01:49 wannabe-afk you run linuxx on that chromebook?
01:49 lwq1996 http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_03482351000P?prdNo=11&blockNo=11&blockType=G11
01:49 eadthem i think that you shuld not need it    if you do  then you probably need something stronger
01:49 tonsofpcs lwq1996: auto-rangers are usually slower to get a reading and not reliable tracking fluctuations beyond a certian percentage
01:49 astro73|derrial i figured that, anyways. The boost it would give seems small
01:50 eadthem one min i can link you a more professional  non commercial tool
01:50 eadthem lwq1996 DO NOT get that meter
01:50 lwq1996 why
01:50 eadthem its the same model as the cheep 9$ exatechs
01:50 tonsofpcs the cream from schweddy balls tastes like a sweet vanilla.
01:51 eadthem there not safe and they take about 10 seconds to register a simi valid reading
01:51 astro73|derrial eating ben's schweddy balls?
01:51 eadthem they bought them at work and they regreted it
01:51 lwq1996 not safe?
01:51 eadthem no  there ok for battery work
01:51 eadthem but anything more than 12v its not safe for
01:52 lwq1996 lol i see
01:52 wannabe1987 so why buy something you're limited on?
01:52 eadthem the dial also dosent accualy lock in to place   so you will have to sit there and fiddle with the dial to find the sweet spot where it will work at that setting for
01:52 lwq1996 thanks eadthem...you just saved me
01:52 astro73|derrial remember: if you're going to be using it somewhat frequently, it might be worth getting the good stuff
01:53 tonsofpcs astro73|derrial: you mean the fluke with zigbee? :)
01:53 astro73|derrial you're only as good as your tools, etc
01:53 wannabe1987 exactly
01:53 eadthem lwq1996 how old are you?
01:53 astro73|derrial tonsofpcs: hm?
01:53 lwq1996 14 almost 15
01:54 astro73|derrial tonsofpcs: you mean the lasertag discovery?
01:54 tonsofpcs http://www.fluke.com/fluke/usen/digital-multimeters/fluke-233.htm?PID=56054
01:54 eadthem k  scale of 1 to 5  what are your intrests at this time    computer programming, electronics hardware, high voltage, mains electronics
01:54 tonsofpcs also, on a scale of $0 to $10000, how much do you have on-hand to spend on a meter?
01:54 lwq1996 its a cross between electronics hardware and high voltage
01:55 eadthem when i say electronics hardware i mean  breadboarding type stuff
01:55 lwq1996 20 right now
01:55 eadthem k one moment
01:55 lwq1996 yes that
01:55 astro73|derrial tonsofpcs: oh man that's an awesome meter
01:55 masterofmonks In that price range I would go analog.
01:55 lwq1996 why
01:55 lwq1996 analog sucks
01:55 tonsofpcs in that price range, for those purposes, I'd grab the cheap ratshack pocket DMM
01:55 lwq1996 my dad has one
01:55 tonsofpcs lwq1996: no, it doesn't.
01:56 tonsofpcs I have both analog and DMMs at work.  There's somee things where I grab the closest meter.  For some, there's a reason to grab one over the other.
01:56 lwq1996 lol
01:56 tonsofpcs If I want to know _if_ there's voltage present (for safety, etc), I grab the analog meter.
01:57 eadthem ok im going to show you a couple of meters that would be good
01:57 tonsofpcs it will tell me instantly, even with an intermittent ground.
01:57 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs hows the ice cream?
01:58 wannabe1987 i want to know...i kinda want ice cream now....but i don't have any, only ruth does :S
01:58 tonsofpcs I use the 22-810 for a 'utility' dmm.
01:59 eadthem http://elexp.com/tst_a200.htm MA220 this one is one you will want later on when you start doing HV stuff   but its not as good for low voltage stuff   http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_03482369000P?prdNo=13&blockNo=13&blockType=G13  this is the same meter branded as crafsman
01:59 eadthem its not a perfect meter    its a clamp meter and thats pritty much its ideal function
01:59 eadthem one moment
01:59 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: it is interesting.
01:59 wannabe1987 worth buying to try out?
02:01 tonsofpcs 22-182 is apparently the replacement for 22-810
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02:02 lwq1996 hi bats
02:02 wannabe1987 hi Bat-Mobile
02:02 eadthem http://elexp.com/tst_8264.htm  this is a good starter meter
02:02 Bat-Mobile hi lwq and wannabe
02:02 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: at my salary, working at an NPR station, absolutely.  (I'm totally bringing the otther 3 pints to work tomorrow)
02:02 tonsofpcs it's really just a nice sweet vanilla w/ malt balls and rum balls in it.
02:02 wannabe1987 nice.  i'll have to pick some up either tonight (if i feel up to going out) or tomorrow
02:02 eadthem it dose AC and DC  current and voltage      ohms  diode  continuty(beep)   and capacitance(flakey but not horrable for price)
02:02 wannabe1987 any peanut butter?
02:03 tonsofpcs ?
02:03 wannabe1987 is there pb in the ice cream?  (housemate is allergic)
02:03 tonsofpcs I have a pint of peanut butter cup in the fridge.... :)
02:03 tonsofpcs idk
02:03 tonsofpcs *checks*
02:03 wannabe1987 i love pb and i'm allowed to bring pb ice cream into the house, i had to ask, my fav ice cream is moose traxx
02:04 tonsofpcs there does not appear to be.
02:04 eadthem lwq1996 it also has temprature
02:04 tonsofpcs although I'm pretty sure it's all made in the same facility...
02:06 wannabe1987 well, yeah.  but still.  i can buy it and she can read labels :D
02:06 lwq1996 which ine
02:06 lwq1996 one*
02:07 eadthem well both
02:07 eadthem what you have to understand is the clamp on version is autorangeing
02:07 lwq1996 ok
02:07 eadthem and its not good for regular mesurments    its perfect for mesuring current because you just clamp it on to a wire and read
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02:07 tonsofpcs right, idk if that's an issue, but having been @ the factory, i'm not sure how much separation peanut butter has
02:08 eadthem the green 2nd one i listed is ideal for regular mesurements    its weakness is that you must disconnect a wire before you can read current and then only up to about 1 amp constantly
02:08 eadthem where the clamp on can do 400A
02:09 tonsofpcs I have an exatech clamp-on ammeter, I don't measure amps with a standard DMM.
02:09 eadthem the clamp on uses what i call a jensen meter core    i dont know who makes it but its the same sluggish core in a jensen meter  but   its not a issue for current clampon
02:10 eadthem only a issue for resistance on that one
02:10 Toast-Away Bat-Mobile?
02:10 eadthem both of these meters i own   as also the 22$ crafsman you wer also looking at
02:10 eadthem well the green one i use at work
02:11 Bat-Mobile Toast-Away: hi toast
02:11 Toast-Away Hi
02:11 Toast-Away Brb
02:11 eadthem ya btw   next time we have one of the crappy exatec meters fail at work ( shuldnt be to long)  ile see about sending it to the TGG labs for thumper food
02:12 eadthem then you can see what the guts look liek and why its not a good meter
02:12 lwq1996 ok find me the best meter u can find
02:12 eadthem the best?   no price limit?
02:12 lwq1996 no price limit
02:12 tonsofpcs lwq1996: depends on the use.
02:12 eadthem cus im finding you atm  the best  cheepist general meter   and the best cheepist clampon with both ac and dc current
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02:13 tonsofpcs for high voltage, the wireless fluke.
02:13 eadthem that i know of
02:13 lwq1996 any type of work
02:13 eadthem afk one min
02:14 lwq1996 ok....because yeah when i get the money it will be the one i get...the best meter you can find...doesnt matter if its 1000 dollars
02:16 angy do I write another article or not...
02:16 * speedrunnerg55 RAWERS
02:16 Toastdude Hi speedrunnerg55
02:16 * lwq1996 paws at speedrnner
02:16 * speedrunnerg55 jumps over to wannabe
02:16 tonsofpcs lwq1996: again, depends on the purpose
02:16 angy spdrunnr!
02:17 wannabe1987 um hi?
02:17 * speedrunnerg55 plays with lwq1996s paw
02:17 tonsofpcs for microelectronics, the best meter I've ever used is an analog kit meter.
02:17 tonsofpcs probably cost about $10 or $15 new....
02:17 lwq1996 tonsofpcs...any purpose....low votage, high votage, persision....i doesnt matter
02:17 speedrunnerg55 hi wannabe
02:17 tonsofpcs lwq1996: different meters for different purposes.
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02:18 * angy mega-hugs Toastdude
02:18 lwq1996 tonsofpcs they got to make atleast one metter that can do it all acuratly and fast
02:18 * wannabe1987 feels like shit.
02:18 * Toastdude tackles angy
02:18 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe
02:18 wannabe1987 thx
02:19 * lwq1996 gives wannabe nyquil
02:19 * Toastdude hugs wannabe and tells her to feel better
02:19 wannabe1987 i would if i could!
02:19 eadthem lwq1996  best hand held or bench meter?
02:19 tonsofpcs lwq1996: yes, that's the analog multimeter with manual ranging selection.
02:19 Toastdude You can wannabe!
02:19 tonsofpcs again, I wouldn't use one of those for HV if I had the option of the wireless fluke, it's safer.
02:19 lwq1996 hmmm....i if you can find me the best protable one thats good but not a brick
02:20 lwq1996 if it has a handle on it idc...
02:20 tonsofpcs with the wireless fluke, you disconnect, put the meter in the area that will be HV, take the display out, then apply voltage.
02:20 lwq1996 as long as its portable
02:22 eadthem i cant decide
02:22 eadthem http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/product.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&nid=-536902435.0&&cc=US&lc=eng#262144
02:22 tonsofpcs but you wouldn't use that for microelectronics.
02:22 eadthem anything on that page would fit my description of the best handheld meter    no price limit
02:23 lwq1996 whats the analog meter you had for microelectronics tonsofpcs
02:23 lwq1996 the one you said came in a kit
02:24 lwq1996 eadthem i like the blue meter that is 0.025 accurate
02:24 tonsofpcs U1401A looks interesting.
02:25 tonsofpcs lwq1996: any really, so long as there's a readable scale and the needed ranges, you calibrate it yourself for each use....
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02:25 tonsofpcs (unless you need NIST tracable calibration)
02:25 splint ahoy!
02:25 eadthem http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/product.jspx?nid=-536902435.536908384.00&cc=US&lc=eng
02:26 wannabe1987 hi splint.
02:26 eadthem we had somethign similar to this in collage     they are truely wonderfull  and the only autorangeing meter i will use
02:26 wannabe1987 Toastdude_ you have a tail!
02:26 tonsofpcs eadthem: if you're going that far, get the specan/oscope/meter all-in-one ;)
02:26 * lwq1996 gets out his meat cleaver
02:26 * lwq1996 chops
02:26 eadthem http://www.home.agilent.com/agilent/product.jspx?nid=-536902435.536880933.00&cc=US&lc=eng   thats what we had in collage
02:26 splint Hey wannabe, how's everything going?
02:26 eadthem naw   we had soemthign better for oscopes
02:26 speedrunnerg55 wannabe i comented on your profile picture
02:27 speedrunnerg55 i said nyan
02:27 speedrunnerg55 :3
02:27 wannabe1987 if i could get rid of this cold, splint, i'd be fine
02:27 wannabe1987 o.O
02:27 speedrunnerg55 i couldnt resist
02:27 wannabe1987 ok
02:28 splint oy, yea i've dodged a few illnesses going around my friends here, i feel lucky...
02:28 wannabe1987 nice
02:29 splint mmm for real, though maybe if i was sick i'd just lay around and do work instead of hang around doing nothing.
02:29 * lwq1996 is drowling over the nice meters
02:30 eadthem mmm dont remeber the oscopes    all i know is  the professors said the school payed 16K each for them    they wer aglient   100mhz  2GSPS DSO   2 analog + 16 digital channals
02:32 tonsofpcs I have teks at work.
02:33 tonsofpcs including a tek transistor curve tracer
02:33 wannabe1987 splint i've slept like 14 hours so far today and haven't gone anywhere....my friend brought me OJ cuz he's nice :)
02:34 eadthem ya tek is ok for the old analog ones
02:34 splint hahaha, wish my friends were as thoughtfull!  Doesn't sound like it's too bad aside from the whole being sick thing.
02:34 eadthem but tek wastes way to much screen space on there fancy  sidebar gui
02:35 tonsofpcs you can turn that off on all of my digital scopes except for the SDI one which has an extra-tall screen to have touch-able buttons at the bottom
02:37 astro73|derrial having a GUI on hardware seems weird
02:38 astro73|derrial since buttons are going to be a better UX and easier to program
02:38 eadthem ya i still like the agilent format
02:44 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/PRINT_01.TIF http://final.servegame.com/PRINT_04.TIF  agilent
02:44 tonsofpcs astro73|derrial: it's an odd ui, but useful
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02:46 Toastdude Darn connection...
02:47 * angy hugs Toastdude
02:47 * Toastdude hugs angy
02:48 * splint hugs himself
02:52 wannabe1987 why?
02:52 splint well hugs were being had and i was all like "shesh fine i could use a hug too!"
02:53 wannabe1987 i'll give you an ehug....that way theres no spreading of germs!  :hug:
02:53 splint hygiene! :hugss:
02:54 wannabe1987 :)
02:56 splint Anyone have any reading on how to make a grid that a program can access information from each point on the grid?
02:58 tonsofpcs what do yuo mean by 'grid' ?
02:59 splint Like a 5X5 grid, where each intersection of two lines would be a point that can change sates. so there woudl be 25 points in all for 5x5
02:59 astro73|derrial you mean a 2-dimensional array?
02:59 Bat-Mobile multidimensional array?
02:59 splint Yes.
02:59 Bat-Mobile (darn, you beat me by two seconds, astro)
03:00 angy you're a slow typer Steve
03:00 angy :)
03:00 Toastdude Bye all
03:00 Bat-Mobile bite me, angy   :]
03:00 astro73|derrial oh, btw, a "5x5" array would actually have 16 or 36 points, depending on if you count the edges or not. Fencepost error
03:00 Bat-Mobile so long toast
03:00 angy Bye Toastdude !
03:00 * angy bites Bat-Mobile
03:00 splint cya toast!
03:00 angy There you go
03:00 astro73|derrial *5x5 grid
03:00 wannabe1987 bye toast
03:00 * lwq1996 glomps wannabe
03:01 astro73|derrial a grid 5 segments long has 6 lines
03:01 splint mmmm no.
03:01 splint well yes, but i am counting line intersections.
03:01 splint it has 5 lines by 5 lines.
03:01 lwq1996 angy why did you bite bats
03:01 astro73|derrial ah. ok.
03:01 Bat-Mobile so there's no bounding box
03:01 angy because he asked me to? :)
03:02 astro73|derrial anyway, multi-dimensional arrays are pretty common
03:02 astro73|derrial what language?
03:02 splint Can you relate the points easily through the array then?  Like "oh 2,3 is a distance of 1 from 3,3"
03:03 astro73|derrial you could write a function to compute the distance
03:03 splint I am not sure yet, i was just trying to play around with it in python because i don't need to worry about a lot of things
03:03 splint yea i thought so.
03:03 astro73|derrial just like all the students geometry
03:03 Bat-Mobile Shouldn't be hard - do you want diagonal distance or do you have to move only along lines?
03:03 * wannabe1987 sneezes on irc. sorry guys
03:03 splint only on the lines.
03:03 astro73|derrial Bat-Mobile: you mean eudlidean or taxicab distance?
03:04 * lwq1996 gets his face shield just in time
03:04 Bat-Mobile correct
03:04 * wannabe1987 pours hand sanitizer on irc.
03:04 Bat-Mobile so what you'd need is some sort of pathfinding function
03:04 Bat-Mobile that'd be an interesting project
03:04 Bat-Mobile then again, if all the points are on an equally-spaced grid, it might not be that interesting.
03:04 splint mmm yea that is really the bread and butter of the whole thing.  What i am trying to do is make the GO game.
03:05 splint have you ever played GO ?
03:05 astro73|derrial umm... taxicab distance is easy
03:05 Bat-Mobile I've played Reversi, it's the ghetto version of GO
03:06 splint lmao for real.  Right but finding the distance is only a tiny part of the problem.  The issue is finding out what a good spot to put your next piece is
03:06 astro73|derrial you mean the AI?
03:06 * lwq1996 is having side pains
03:06 splint Distance plays a part in that because if you know that someone is trying to make a line of pieces you can put your piece a distance of 2 away and cut them off
03:06 splint and there are more things like that, and yes the AI.
03:07 splint Unforunately i haven't gotten very far in math courses ( though i have an interest ) nor have i ever done any AI programming XD.
03:07 astro73|derrial me neither; GUI programming is hard enough
03:08 eadthem its not to bad
03:08 astro73|derrial btw, the simple python thing is to make a list of lists, but there's modules that give you an actual 2d array
03:09 eadthem once you object it properly  its quite simple
03:09 Bat-Mobile I would guess the hardest part of the AI programming is having some way to objectively determine whether a board layout is "good" or "bad"
03:09 astro73|derrial "object it"?
03:09 Bat-Mobile or which one is better than the next
03:09 Bat-Mobile I think eadthem means encapsulating the array in a class?
03:09 splint Yea i'm not sure how to do that.  Like it's generally known that an L shape of 3 pieces is a weak position to have those pieces in.
03:10 eadthem i mean the gui objects
03:10 astro73|derrial the simple thing to do, in my mind, would be determine the set of legal moves and evaluate the fitness of each one
03:10 Bat-Mobile oh, my mistake
03:10 Bat-Mobile right, but then you need a way to evaluate whether a particular move is better or worse than another move
03:10 splint I agree on the legal moves.  But determining the fitness of each spot on the board is hard.  Also the board is normally 19X19
03:10 astro73|derrial eadthem: you mean widgets? what kind of GUIs are you writing?
03:11 eadthem i use GTK
03:11 eadthem but the concept works on embeded as well
03:12 splint Bat-Mobile: I was thinking that as pieces get put on a board there would be some sort of weight assigned to that area of the board.  So the AI could say "there is lots of activity here i should focus on a strong move there".
03:12 astro73|derrial eadthem: right... why is the process of writing a framework important in this case?
03:12 splint But that doesn't leave room for randomly starting activity somewhere else on the board to distract the human player.
03:12 eadthem your saying  <astro73|derrial> me neither; GUI programming is hard enough
03:12 eadthem once you have it tenderised properly   its not to hard
03:12 splint Unless you find some way to determine that it is more benefical to start a new area of activity than continue in a different one.
03:13 astro73|derrial eadthem: oh. I had to write my own GTK widget recently
03:13 astro73|derrial splint, Bat-Mobile: I would imagine there's several fitness strategies, with a weight to each one
03:14 splint what would you google to not get workout videos.
03:14 Bat-Mobile splint: I'll tell you the truth, you know what I would do?  Focus on writing a 2-player game of GO first.  Once I'd gotten that sorted, then I'd work on adding AI.
03:14 astro73|derrial like, "Makes an L shape", "Kills the opponents lines", and "extend a line"
03:15 Bat-Mobile .g game of go artificial intelligence algorithm
03:15 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_Go
03:16 splint Bat: Yea that was the general idea... we just got carried away with the AI discussion.  I just am unsure of how to do the graphical end of it, and was having trouble programming the grid, i haven't tried for more than 3 hours though.
03:16 astro73|derrial splint: get yourself a library. I use GTK myself
03:16 Bat-Mobile Astro is correct.
03:16 Bat-Mobile also, this might or might not help
03:17 Bat-Mobile .w pygame
03:17 BotSteve "Pygame is a cross-platform set of Python modules designed for writing video games." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pygame
03:17 splint mmm i tried pygame once and couldn't get it to compile, i was trying on linux though.
03:17 astro73|derrial python has bindings for most of the major GUI toolkits, as well as several game engines
03:17 astro73|derrial splint: always check your package manager first
03:17 splint i did not do that -_-
03:18 astro73|derrial i believe python also has a library or two for real multi-dimensional arrays if you find a list-of-lists to be cumbersome
03:20 splint I'll be sure to check that out, thanks for all the pointers everyone, it helps!
03:25 Sgt_Lemming Bat-Mobile, feel like rewriting minecraft in pygame?
03:26 Bat-Mobile hahahahahaa no
03:26 astro73|derrial is it that complicated?
03:27 astro73|derrial someone did it in C
03:27 Bat-Mobile I have a motto:  "Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice."
03:27 Bat-Mobile Has nothing to do with minecraft in pygame, I just like saying it.
03:28 astro73|derrial double tap?
03:29 angy time to go, see ya!
03:29 Bat-Mobile more like an insurance shot
03:31 astro73|derrial Sgt_Lemming: I actually feel like python is not suited to many aspects of a game
03:31 lwq1996 i smell smoke should i be worried
03:31 astro73|derrial namely the heavy data handling (eg, models and physics)
03:31 astro73|derrial lwq1996: simple answer: probably
03:32 Bat-Mobile I wouldn't say worried, but you should be concerned.
03:32 Bat-Mobile At least until you find out what's causing the smoke
03:33 lwq1996 lol
03:36 wannabe1987 lwq1996 don't set yourself on fire
03:37 lwq1996 what?
03:37 lwq1996 its not caused from me
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03:40 astro73|derrial lwq1996: chance of fire vs not, compared against the cost of fire vs not
03:41 lwq1996 i dont see anything
03:41 astro73|derrial if the smell is your computer, shut it down and vaccuum it out
03:42 lwq1996 lol
03:42 lwq1996 no its not my computer
03:42 lwq1996 its gone now
03:42 lwq1996 i dont smell anything
03:46 astro73|derrial they all say that
03:46 astro73|derrial and then flame errupts behind them
03:46 wannabe1987 lol
03:47 Bat-Mobile Have you guys seen how fast a christmas tree catches on fire?
03:48 astro73|derrial ... i think it have?
03:48 lwq1996 yes
03:48 Bat-Mobile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_eHBqVYa8A
03:48 astro73|derrial is it any faster than a 3-walled dorm room?
03:48 Bat-Mobile not timelapsed
03:48 wannabe1987 HELLO lwq1996
03:48 lwq1996 hi
03:49 lwq1996 it says that you disconnected
03:49 wannabe1987 how am i disconnected
03:49 wannabe1987 if i'm typing
03:49 Bat-Mobile the first time I saw that I was speechless
03:49 lwq1996 idk it said you were
03:49 wannabe1987 when
03:50 eadthem mmm that was on mithbusters
03:50 astro73|derrial so remember: keep your trees watered!
03:50 lwq1996 what if you have a fake tree
03:50 eadthem corse we did our own little ceader tree in boyscouts  with the same effect
03:51 eadthem more fun in real life
03:51 wannabe1987 lwq1996 when did i disconnect?
03:51 eadthem lwq1996 plastic dosent burn as well
03:51 eadthem it will burn however
03:51 eadthem its less likely to catch in the first place
03:51 lwq1996 21:39
03:51 wannabe1987 ...
03:52 wannabe1987 that was two hours ago
03:52 eadthem depends on the time zone
03:52 eadthem anyhow cya  off to bed
03:53 lwq1996 bye
03:56 lwq1996 how would i do a disk burn without burning it to a disk
03:56 wannabe1987 ok
03:56 Bat-Mobile lwq1996: I have no idea what that means.  Why would you want to do that?
03:57 lwq1996 like its a disk image...and i dont want to burn it to a disk becuase i cant
03:57 lwq1996 i want it to be in the disk drive without it being in the drve
03:58 Bat-Mobile Oh.  DaemonTools.
03:58 Bat-Mobile Or Alcohol120 maybe
03:58 lwq1996 thanks
03:58 lwq1996 becaue i want to install damn small linux
03:59 Sgt_Lemming LOL!
03:59 Sgt_Lemming Copy of Blade Trinity up on TPB, it's 720p...
03:59 Sgt_Lemming filesize 495MB...
03:59 Sgt_Lemming WHY!!!
04:00 Bat-Mobile Sgt_Lemming: I don't understand the significance
04:00 Bat-Mobile Is that too small?
04:00 Sgt_Lemming far too small
04:01 lwq1996 brb
04:01 Sgt_Lemming 2 hour long movie, 720p resolution, 500mb
04:01 Sgt_Lemming the quality would be shit Bat-Mobile, completely shit
04:01 Bat-Mobile ah, gotcha
04:01 wannabe1987 hi Sgt_Lemming
04:02 Sgt_Lemming most 2 hour long movies at 72p are 4 - 5GB
04:02 Bat-Mobile oh
04:02 Sgt_Lemming 720p even
04:02 Bat-Mobile That makes a lot of sense
04:03 Bat-Mobile I'm not sure the quality would matter to me in the long run
04:03 Sgt_Lemming I have a 55" tele in the loungeroom
04:03 Bat-Mobile considering I watch videos in a 20x15 cm window on my laptop screen
04:03 Sgt_Lemming quality matters :-P
04:03 Bat-Mobile (:
04:04 Bat-Mobile hah, yeah...I'd say there's a bit of a difference there
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04:04 Sgt_Lemming just a touch
04:04 wannabe1987 i watch videos on my netbook....
04:04 wannabe1987 while computing on the laptop :D
04:04 Bat-Mobile (also I think it's cool that you mentioned the size of your screen in inches and I gave mine in cm)
04:04 Sgt_Lemming my main screen is 24"
04:05 Bat-Mobile Is that a universal thing?  Video screens are measured in inches even in the metric world?
04:05 Sgt_Lemming generally yeah
04:05 lwq hi
04:05 Sgt_Lemming you do see them done in cm, but it's normally on the smaller screens :-P
04:10 Sgt_Lemming boden really does do the mad scientist thing well
04:13 lwq hes fucking mad why do you think
04:13 Sgt_Lemming yeah
04:13 Sgt_Lemming less mad and more just unashamed
04:13 lwq lol ture
04:24 masterofmonks No such thing as a mad scientist, they are all mad engineers.
04:24 lwq lol
04:24 Bat-Mobile "Do you even have a mad control group?"
04:24 lwq always mom with a weird statement
04:24 Bat-Mobile it's a comic
04:24 masterofmonks That happens to be fact.
04:26 lwq my god im watching fnc and he keeps getting this guy to ask him if he has a question....its been going on for 5min
04:29 Sgt_Lemming hmm, just thinking with the pressure cooker they are modding in the latest captains blog...
04:29 Sgt_Lemming I have som inch thick acrylic at hsbne, should make a nice blast window :-P
04:29 lwq they are going to fill it with cement
04:29 Sgt_Lemming inch thick, clear acrylic
04:29 Sgt_Lemming beastly stuff
04:29 lwq lol
04:31 lwq i cant wait to see the penny shrink
04:34 NeWtoz where is Ponko when you want him!
04:34 NeWtoz ?
04:35 lwq porking his fiance?
04:35 Sgt_Lemming they legalized gay marriage?
04:35 lwq ROFLAO
04:36 Sgt_Lemming bbiaw in a while, going for a snooze
04:36 NeWtoz I wanted to talk football with someone :(
04:38 wannabe1987 talk to Bat-Mobile?
04:38 lwq gah i will have to wait till tomorrow till i get my flash drive to live cd damn small linux
04:38 lwq omg shes still here
04:38 wannabe1987 lee why would i go anywhere?
04:38 Bat-Mobile Wow...what makes you think I know anything about football, kelly?   I'm honestly surprised
04:38 wannabe1987 i mean, i need to sleep soon, but if i do that i'll change my nick
04:39 lwq i thought you went to bed
04:39 wannabe1987 you keep playing it in here w/ ponko
04:39 Nekoroms laugh of the morning http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAz-Ax330tE
04:39 wannabe1987 bats i'm sure you know more than i do :P
04:39 Nekoroms it might taste a bit cardboardy :)
04:39 wannabe1987 all i know is that the lions won and
04:39 wannabe1987 and i got that form my news feed
04:40 * wannabe1987 feels very warm. wish i had a thermometer!
04:40 * lwq puts back of hand to kellys forehead
04:40 lwq OUCH FUCK...YOU ARE BURNING UP
04:41 * lwq gets kelly a cold wash cloth for her forehead
04:42 wannabe1987 i'm too lazy to do it on my own :P
04:42 lwq lol
04:44 wannabe1987 ruth: "i'm doing homework cuz it'll put me to sleep"
04:44 lwq lol it will actually
04:44 wannabe1987 its for a management class
04:45 lwq ah
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04:45 Seroster Arr.
04:45 Bat-Mobile yo ho ho
04:45 lwq lol hi
04:46 Seroster Yay, battie
04:46 Seroster Do you wish to copulate, dear sir?
04:47 Bat-Mobile I'm only wondering why you aren't already here
04:50 wannabe1987 my body hates me bah
04:50 lwq im sure you hate it too
04:50 lwq :P
04:50 Seroster And so does the rest of us? =D
04:51 * lwq bitch slaps seroster
04:51 Seroster SOrry, sensei!
04:51 lwq you son of a bitch dont say that
04:51 Seroster Sorry, Sir, Don't hit me, sir!
04:52 * lwq is over protective of women >.>
04:53 lwq wannabe you here
04:53 wannabe1987 no.
04:53 wannabe1987 :P
04:53 lwq lol
04:53 Seroster wannabe1987, we all love you, but why doesnt your  body?
04:54 lwq lol
04:54 lwq thats better
04:54 lwq shes sick too
04:54 Seroster I really gotta go feed the cats, or else they'll slit my throat the second I don't pay attention
04:54 lwq lol
04:54 lwq yaya blod
04:55 wannabe1987 i'm sick....and my head is pounding and my body goes "hey, you don't have enough...lets send you your aurora as well!" /me slaps her body for doing that to her....
04:56 wannabe1987 like seriously, i have enough going on already
04:56 Seroster Aurora?
04:56 Bat-Mobile What's an aurora?
04:56 lwq lol
04:57 wannabe1987 precourser to fainting
04:57 Seroster Bat-Mobile, It's a stellar phenomenon
04:58 Bat-Mobile Really?
04:58 Bat-Mobile Wow
04:58 Bat-Mobile (not you, seroster)
04:58 Bat-Mobile What does it look like?
04:58 wannabe1987 i just get this funny feeling and i start feeling *very* lightheaded and my eyes go wonky
04:59 Seroster Big green lights in the sky
04:59 wannabe1987 so i took care of what needed to be put in the kitchen and am laying down now
04:59 wannabe1987 thats the northern lights
04:59 Seroster AKA aurora arealis
04:59 Bat-Mobile is that the actual term for it, or is that just what you call it, wannabe?
04:59 lwq borialis
05:00 wannabe1987 i forgot the term, its like the word aurora.  i'm bad with my medical stuff :P
05:00 lwq lol
05:00 Bat-Mobile oh ok
05:00 Seroster FUCK, lwq!
05:00 * Seroster kicks lwq
05:00 wannabe1987 no don't do that!
05:00 * lwq goudges serosters eyes out
05:00 wannabe1987 hey now
05:00 lwq GO SCREW YOURSELF SERSOTER
05:00 Seroster I, unlike... SOME... Have noticed you can /me kicks instead of actually being a douchebag and kicking..
05:00 wannabe1987 violence isn't the answer kids
05:01 Seroster No, but it's fun, wannabe1987=)
05:01 lwq LOL
05:02 wannabe1987 ...
05:02 wannabe1987 i don't find it fun but whatevs
05:02 lwq we are boys...we will fight
05:02 Seroster Or cuddle
05:02 Seroster =)
05:02 Bat-Mobile or both!
05:02 Seroster At the same time!
05:03 * lwq cuddles with wannabe even tho shes sick
05:03 Seroster Fucking fog.
05:03 Seroster Now yer sick, lwq.
05:03 lwq idc...i was already sick
05:03 lwq not as sick as her tho
05:03 lwq so idc
05:03 Seroster I live in a fucking HOLE... So it's thick thick thick fog. I can't see the ground from my balchony =P
05:04 wannabe1987 there is no ground
05:04 lwq lol
05:04 wannabe1987 i took it away
05:05 * lwq gets blanket and cuddles with wannabe to make her feel better :)
05:05 wannabe1987 i'm fucking warm.  why the blanket?!
05:05 lwq idk... i thought you might be could
05:06 wannabe1987 no?
05:06 lwq well thats because im cold atm
05:07 * wannabe1987 sticks blanket in dryer for 5 min, puts on lee
05:08 lwq lol
05:08 lwq i just remembered something
05:08 wannabe1987 o.O you were thinking?
05:08 wannabe1987 watch out world
05:09 lwq hey shut up :P
05:09 lwq when i was in 5th grade i had to get surgery on my arm...and n
05:10 lwq when i was in 5th grade i had to get surgery on my arm...and they couldnt find the doctor so i was sitting there in a cold room in a gown...nd the nurses would do anything so they got me warm blankets and stuff:P
05:12 lwq lol i love being waited on
05:13 wannabe1987 lol
05:15 wannabe1987 doesn't happen when you live alone-ish
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05:17 lwq lol alonish
05:18 lwq no the reason they did it was becuase they coulnt find the doctor...to come to find out he didnt come int work
05:19 wannabe1987 o.o
05:20 lwq its ok he had a valid excuse
05:20 Seroster Crack is a hefty drug, eh?
05:21 Bat-Mobile Turns out when you're a doctor you can write yourself a perscription for that
05:21 lwq no....he got sick becuase he had cancer
05:21 lwq he didnt even know till he got sick
05:22 lwq SERIOUSLY
05:22 wannabe1987 lwq that sucks
05:24 lwq ik it does
05:24 * lwq makes wannabe some tea because hes bored
05:24 * wannabe1987 should sleep....but i already got 14 hours yesterday :P
05:24 wannabe1987 up at 7 tho, that'll suck....or 7:30.  idr, alarms been set for 12 hours :P
05:48 * lwq is going to bed
05:48 lwq i think you should too wannabe
05:48 Bat-Mobile so long lwq
05:48 wannabe1987 lol ok
05:48 wannabe1987 night lee
05:48 lwq night bats....night kelly
05:48 lwq night bitch of a seroster :P
05:49 Seroster ARRGH!
05:49 lwq lol i love you too
05:49 lwq :P
05:49 Seroster /kick lwq goodnight hun =)
05:49 lwq lol
05:49 Seroster Gotta go to school now folks
05:49 Seroster Kick some ass.
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05:49 lwq ok will do seroster
05:49 wannabe1987 night lwq, sleep good :)
05:49 lwq HI DREW
05:49 Seroster^Away HI DREW!
05:50 Seroster^Away Are you and wannabe all chilly towards one another?
05:50 Seroster^Away That would be awesome! Get some drama going here!
05:50 Seroster^Away Anyhow, Cya.
05:50 lwq fight nice drew and kelly
05:50 wannabe1987 Bat-Mobile won't let fighting happen
05:51 lwq yes he would....if it was legal anyway
05:51 livefiretj ??
05:51 livefiretj Hi
05:51 Seroster^Away HI DREW!
05:51 wannabe1987 go away seroster
05:51 lwq lol
05:52 Bat-Mobile are you kidding?  I'll totally let fighting happen.  Just don't disrupt the channel with it.
05:52 wannabe1987 shhhhh
05:52 livefiretj why would I fight anyone
05:52 livefiretj Im confused....
05:52 lwq i wonderwhy
05:52 wannabe1987 don't worry about it
05:52 wannabe1987 lee go to bed
05:52 Bat-Mobile that's what all of the ops are here for, really.  Preventing the channel from sucking.
05:52 wannabe1987 lol
05:53 wannabe1987 good luck :P
05:53 lwq hmmm i think that may be sgt_lemming http://space.hsbne.org/security.html
05:55 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs-qfcfnsBw&amp;feature=youtu.be  katemonster gave this to me....
05:55 wannabe1987 i dunno why
05:55 wannabe1987 i'm now worried she might think i'm a cat!
05:55 lwq lol
05:56 wannabe1987 i mean, my fb pic is cat, but still
05:56 wannabe1987 doesn't mean *i* am cat
05:56 lwq kelly you coppied me didnt you
05:57 wannabe1987 no....my xbf's sister posted a picture of my cat so i had to put it as my photo!
05:57 lwq with the cat pic i mean
05:57 lwq ok
05:57 wannabe1987 i don't get pictures of him very often, what with aaron working a lot and not knowing how to use a camera and cord and upload photos (or something)
05:57 lwq lol
05:58 wannabe1987 i mean he's a geek.  he's taken apart his 360 4-5 times now
06:00 lwq lol
06:00 livefiretj Just cause you can take something a apart electronic does not make you a geek. Its like telling a IT person you know networking by turning off your modem and turning it back on to solve your DNS issues
06:01 lwq lol
06:01 livefiretj just saying
06:02 livefiretj umm so did you find your stuff wannabe?
06:02 wannabe1987 he's also taken his computer apart multiple times.  and yes i did thanks
06:03 NeWtoz BotSteve, tell Ponko :) scared yet?
06:03 BotSteve NeWtoz: I'll pass that on when Ponko is around.
06:04 livefiretj Hi botsteve
06:04 BotSteve Yo livefiretj
06:05 lwq ok im down stalking
06:05 lwq later guys
06:05 wannabe1987 night
06:06 * lwq hugs kelly and gives her nyquil
06:06 wannabe1987 yay drugs!
06:06 lwq lol
06:06 lwq more like alahol
06:07 wannabe1987 shhh i'n not drinking
06:07 lwq or how ever you spel it
06:07 wannabe1987 i don't drink
06:07 wannabe1987 alcohol*
06:07 lwq lol
06:07 wannabe1987 and my liquid meds were all expired in 08 so i had to get rid of them :(
06:07 lwq they just put those dates on there becuase the fda makes them...most likely they were still good
06:08 wannabe1987 they didn't taste right
06:08 wannabe1987 and i consulted w/ mom (RN) and she said "dump"
06:08 wannabe1987 so i did
06:08 lwq ive never heard of pill sgoing bad
06:08 lwq but i guess its possible
06:08 Bat-Mobile Meds a month past expiration maybe.  Meds three years past expiration?  You try that and let me know how it works out for you.
06:09 lwq lol
06:09 lwq im not scared
06:09 Bat-Mobile Tylenol probably you'd be fine
06:09 Bat-Mobile The good stuff, I don't know
06:09 wannabe1987 lwq they were pills
06:09 lwq ibprofen?
06:09 wannabe1987 they were liquids
06:09 wannabe1987 ibuprofen= motrin
06:09 lwq ah must of became stagnent
06:09 wannabe1987 acetominphen (sp) = tylenol
06:10 lwq asprine?
06:10 lwq ok enough talking i better go to bed
06:10 wannabe1987 i dont' use asprin so idk
06:10 lwq later everyone
06:10 lwq ims going to bed
06:11 wannabe1987 night
06:11 lwq-sleeping night :)
06:11 * lwq-sleeping fluffs his pillow and hopes that nothing bad happeneds tomorrow with bullying
06:11 pegasus monster energy drink = 99.9% caffeine free, apparently
06:11 lwq-sleeping BULL SHIT
06:12 lwq-sleeping THEY ARE LIKE ALL CAFINE
06:12 wannabe1987 :hugs:
06:12 pegasus http://i.imgur.com/lhbpT.png
06:12 pegasus pull out a can and do the math yourself
06:12 lwq-sleeping -hugs-
06:12 lwq-sleeping -hugs livefiretj-
06:12 lwq-sleeping bro hugs*
06:13 pegasus his math is off, too, on the side of "even less caffeine"
06:13 pegasus oh, no, i missed the decimal point
06:13 lwq-sleeping lol...well bye pegasus...
06:13 pegasus guess he missed the "prefix with a zero" rule
06:13 lwq-sleeping im going to bed
06:13 Bat-Mobile Aren't energy drinks mostly toluene and something else?
06:13 Bat-Mobile Rather than caffiene?
06:14 pegasus 99.999644444....% caffeine free
06:14 pegasus five nines of no caffeine
06:14 pegasus good enough for uptime
06:14 wannabe1987 Sgt_Lemming you at your hackerspace?  theres someone on camera, idk who
06:24 pegasus i gotta say
06:24 pegasus computing in 1996
06:24 pegasus not nearly as interesting
06:25 pegasus i miss the good old days as much as the next old guy
06:25 pegasus but still
06:28 livefiretj hugs lqw
06:28 livefiretj errr lwq-sleeping
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06:32 Bat-Mobile howdy Electricguy
06:32 Electricguy hey hey! :)
06:38 wannabe-zz gonna try sleeping....
06:39 wannabe-zz night Bat-Mobile
06:39 Bat-Mobile seeya
06:40 Electricguy hahaha! so damn true! http://likeaphobia.us/images/4741.jpg
07:13 tesla4d Expected byproduct of the real purpose of recaptcha
07:13 tesla4d That is, to teach computers to read.
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07:14 tesla4d Eventually, all the easy stuff gets put in the "known" pile, and the stuff they give you is increasingly drawn from the subset of the "unknown" pile that is actually impossible.
07:14 tesla4d Notice that it's never two really hard ones at the same time.
07:15 tesla4d Only one word is known. The other one is one the computer doesn't know. It catalogs user's responses regarding that particular word and if everybody seems to agree, eventually it's assumed to be known.
07:18 tesla4d Ironically, the actual purpose of the project makes it's ostensible purpose obsolete.
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07:25 BotSteve Welcome back, boss.
07:26 pegasus fill in the unknown with nonsense
07:26 pegasus i've been using "zombies" myself
07:29 Sythen morning all
10:10 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell wannabe-zz was not I on the camera, dunno who it was, probably pelrun
10:10 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when wannabe-zz is around.
10:58 lwq-sleeping hi people
11:08 lwq-sleeping hey sgt_lemming guess what
11:11 lwq-sleeping botsteve: tell sgt_lemming that lwq1996 was creeping on him in the hackerspack and kept moving the camera....so thats why its out of position
11:11 BotSteve lwq-sleeping: I'll pass that on when sgt_lemming is around.
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11:31 wannabe-zz Sgt_Lemming ah ok
11:31 BotSteve wannabe-zz: I have the following messages for you:
11:31 BotSteve At 10:10Z, Sgt_Lemming asked me to tell wannabe-zz was not I on the camera, dunno who it was, probably pelrun
11:32 wannabe-zz lol
11:32 wannabe-zz thanks BotSteve
11:32 BotSteve You're welcome, wannabe-zz
12:06 yNos|away hia evr'one
12:07 wannabe1987 hi yNos|away
12:08 yNos anyone know how things went @tgg after 5ish yesterday
12:09 wannabe1987 no, why?
12:09 wannabe1987 i think i saw something on justin's wall but that would be it
12:11 yNos justin? he is the kid with the singing coil?
12:11 yNos i met a few new people yesterday...
12:12 wannabe1987 yeah
12:12 wannabe1987 he posted this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1KJmd59nd8
12:13 yNos watching now ;)
12:22 tonsofpcs oh, the onion :D
12:22 tonsofpcs "MINNEAPOLIS—Saying that Lucky Charms is "as magically delicious as ever but now lower in magically saturated fats," General Mills announced Friday it would begin making the cereal with 15 percent less leprechaun meat."
12:22 wannabe1987 ....
12:22 wannabe1987 lol
12:23 tonsofpcs yNos: someone was around asking if a 10T hub with 10-2 uplink would be useful. I suggested that it might be useful for spares/backups/additional @ TV MC control system.  Thoughts?
12:24 yNos umm. might be usefull as a spare up in NLE
12:24 tonsofpcs NLE? i thought they were gigabit...
12:24 tonsofpcs and switched...
12:24 yNos sorry, not nle.. but on the mc
12:24 tonsofpcs yea
12:25 tonsofpcs can never have too many 10T/10-2 bridges for a system like that (just don't connect them in a loop)
12:25 yNos why not?
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12:33 Hackbat Anyone at TGGMC?
12:34 Hackbat Guess not :c
12:35 yNos not yet.. maybe
12:36 yNos later today
12:36 Hackbat I found a way to fix captain's problem with his camera
12:37 Hackbat the whole only 10 minutes of record time
12:40 yNos yeah?
12:40 yNos other than dropping video quality?
12:41 Sythen afternoon all
12:42 Hackbat http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK
12:42 tonsofpcs < yNos> other than dropping video quality?
12:42 wannabe1987 hi Sythen :)
12:43 Sythen hellooo wannabe1987
12:43 wannabe1987 how are you?
12:43 Sythen im not too bad, how are you
12:43 wannabe1987 getting better....was sick
12:43 Sythen ahhh right on
12:43 wannabe1987 yep.  it sucks
12:51 Sythen just a little bit
12:52 yNos hackbat: did you send it off to cboden?
12:53 Hackbat don't know his email
12:53 yNos cboden@
12:53 Hackbat ahhh
12:53 Hackbat well
12:53 Hackbat let me do that
12:53 yNos is very googleable
13:02 Hackbat sent
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13:18 yNos ohman
13:18 wannabe1987 ?
13:18 yNos i just missed out on a "town hall" meeting with out CEO
13:18 yNos just what i wanted to see
13:19 wannabe1987 uh oh
13:19 yNos vague is an understatemnt
13:19 MoxieMike that would have been interesting
13:19 yNos how can someone talk for 2 hours and not say a damn thing?
13:19 wannabe1987 lol
13:19 yNos it amazes me.
13:20 yNos inimaginitive BS spewing the praises of how well we are working, but we can do better.
13:20 yNos its a pep ralley with shitty coffee.
13:22 astro73|derrial is that different from the rest of the coffee?
13:22 wannabe1987 yes
13:22 wannabe1987 i can make some damn good coffee
13:22 astro73|derrial i'm sure you can, i'm wondering about yNos
13:22 yNos i am drinking some home roasted/pressed coffee
13:22 yNos i am a coffee nazi
13:22 astro73|derrial and his work place
13:23 yNos i dont drink the battery acid here
13:23 yNos or the kool-aid
13:23 astro73|derrial they were serving both in large quantities
13:24 yNos fer-shur
13:32 Sythen this thing is beautifull
13:32 Sythen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hrr_YsLbVw&amp;feature=channel_video_title
13:32 wannabe1987 what is it?
13:33 Sythen arc rectifier
13:33 wannabe1987 ah.  i'm watching an almost 40 min captn's blog o.O
13:34 wannabe1987 i'll pause it in a bit and go on and do my day and watch the rest while making dinner
13:34 Sythen heh, kidwell blew is diodes
13:34 wannabe1987 yes
13:36 wannabe1987 there.  paused 10 min into video....gotta go home now and do work :(
13:37 Sythen have fun
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13:40 wannabe1987 angy!!!!
13:40 angy hello wannabe1987
13:40 wannabe1987 hows you?
13:41 angy fine, thanks. just need to prepare a little more for my interview
13:41 wannabe1987 interview?
13:41 angy and decide if I want to saty in canada a little more
13:41 angy got a job interview at 3pm
13:41 wannabe1987 ooo good luck!
13:41 wannabe1987 where?
13:42 angy close to montréal
13:44 angy http://g.co/maps/ee7vq here
13:44 wannabe1987 montreal is only a 12is hhour drive from gr :D
13:44 wannabe1987 ish hour*
13:44 angy yep
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13:45 tlockley morning
13:45 yNos hiya
13:45 wannabe1987 lol you could so totally pick up my friend in london, ontario too :D
13:45 wannabe1987 hi tlockley
13:45 tlockley hey yNos, wannabe1987
13:46 angy a week-end destination :)
13:46 wannabe1987 a monthlong destination :D
13:48 angy I often hunts for a job in michigan, but most of the time, it requires only a BSc,not a Msc :(
13:48 wannabe1987 :(  so you're over qualified?  totally sucks
13:49 Sythen hello angy
13:49 angy Hy Sythen, a tea?
13:49 wannabe1987 and with this i do have to be leaving now, i swear :P
13:49 Sythen not long finished one lol
13:49 wannabe-afk i'll be online when i get to my destination....
13:51 Sythen hve fun
13:51 Sythen have*
13:54 angy have a tea!
13:55 Sythen heh, im good
13:55 Sythen i will do later
13:55 angy have a gin then
13:55 angy nearly time across the pond
13:55 Sythen hehe
13:55 Sythen 3pm
13:56 Sythen i wont touch alcohol till about 6pm
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13:56 angy heh, that late?
13:57 yNos well, when he doesnt wake up till 4pm...
13:57 yNos ;)
13:57 angy ho boy, I love that page http://www.amt.qc.ca/index.asp
13:57 angy that's a good enough reason :)
14:01 Hackbat If the captain comes in asking for me Tell him I'm at college and he should check his email.
14:01 Hackbat welp gotta go
14:01 Hackbat see yall later
14:05 angy and I have a question for the IRC, does anyone have any idea of the salary of an engineer (triple degree) in northern america?
14:05 Sythen hehhe
14:06 yNos define engineer.
14:07 yNos some places(scase for example) gives anyone who is above minion the title engineer
14:07 angy got a bunch of M.Sc.A degrees in mechanical engineering
14:07 angy a bunch being 3
14:08 angy or 2.5 to be more honest
14:08 yNos http://www.payscale.com/
14:08 angy Great! thanks a lot
14:08 yNos depends on where you are
14:09 yNos detroit pays better than GR
14:09 yNos CHI pays better than DET
14:11 angy that's going to be too many variables
14:11 angy I stopped using maths a long time ago (:
14:19 Sythen oh bugger me, im gonna have to get my mother to make some more pies
14:20 yNos meat pies?
14:20 Sythen oh yeah
14:20 angy meat tea pies?
14:20 angy :)
14:20 yNos with raisins or cranberries?
14:20 Sythen o.O
14:21 yNos i found an amazing hookah flavor this weekend. jasmine and mint.. with jasmine tea in the base.
14:21 Sythen just standard meat pies
14:21 Sythen with a bit of gravy, and some beg
14:22 Sythen bloody pukka
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14:22 angy that reminds me, I need to go kill another neighbor to add some blood on the kettle
14:22 Sythen lol
14:24 angy and I found an obnoxious keyboard that does a huge click when keys are pressed
14:24 angy I'm very sad not to go back to the office with it
14:24 Sythen heheh
14:24 yNos Sythen, not a fan, eh?
14:24 Sythen i like clicky keyboards
14:24 yNos same here
14:25 yNos usually have nice deep keypresses
14:25 Sythen loud bastards, but i do like em
14:25 angy razor blackwidow ultimate is one of the most comfortable
14:25 Sythen i like my M$ ergonomic 4000
14:25 angy but still my IBM AT is way beyond comfortable
14:25 yNos we have an (older)operator that grew up typing on mechanical key punches..
14:25 angy my primary keyboard when coding is a 1988 IBM AT
14:25 yNos she beats the fck out of her laptop when the types
14:26 angy :)
14:26 Sythen lol
14:26 yNos you can hear her typing on her laptop through 50 feet of cubes
14:26 Sythen i used to type with my nails
14:26 angy we had someone like that
14:26 Sythen i dont do that anymore
14:26 yNos i dont have nails
14:27 angy it was like all keys where 1kg force to activate
14:27 Sythen i dont, anymore hehe
14:27 yNos you had nails?
14:27 angy I have somewhere a model M as well
14:28 Sythen i like my ergo 4000, its nice to type on
14:28 Sythen and i can touch type on it
14:29 angy I'm kind of fucked up with typing, my main keyboard is US International mapping, my laptop is French Mac and the other keyboard is French PC
14:29 Sythen heheh
14:29 Sythen bloody french
14:30 angy so I use dvòrak
14:30 Sythen i have british qwerty
14:30 angy dlooby brits!
14:30 Sythen hehehhe
14:30 angy re-order the letters and you got it
14:31 Sythen yup
14:31 angy what I love about not using the mapping on your keyboard to type is that no-one ever tries to use your computer more than once
14:32 Sythen yup
14:32 Sythen i will remove the letters from my keyboard one of the days
14:34 angy http://www.typematrix.com/
14:34 angy they offer weird blank keyboards
14:34 Sythen i tend to kill a keyboard every 6 months or so
14:34 Sythen yeah, but i dont like the layout
14:35 angy I had a german supplier that had classic layouts blank keyboards
14:35 Sythen $120? fuck that
14:35 angy we bought a few of them and change all the keyboard in a part of the office
14:35 angy that was hell funny
14:35 Sythen lol
14:36 Sythen this is mine
14:36 Sythen http://www.pconly.co.uk/product_images/b/538/microsoft_4000__32592_zoom.jpg
14:36 angy erm... don't like that :)
14:36 Sythen not many people do
14:37 angy I currently use that one http://store.razerzone.com/store/razerusa/en_US/pd/productID.235197900/categoryId.49136200/parentCategoryId.35156900
14:37 Sythen i dont like razer kit
14:37 angy mostly for the Cherry MX Blue into it
14:37 angy but now I want one as weird as my mouse
14:38 Seroster^Away ARRRR
14:39 angy fancy a nut Seroster ?
14:39 Seroster There's plenty in here.
14:54 yNos what sounds good for lunch?
14:54 angy french cuisine
14:54 angy then you'll nap for roughly 5 hours
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15:07 yNos angy: how about belgian cuisine?
15:07 angy do they have a cuisine? apart from making nice french fries?
15:08 angy (yes, I'm mean to them)
15:09 yNos i am not sure the difference. the food is definately germanic..
15:09 angy have choucrouute
15:10 yNos the problem with going there is they are also a brewery
15:10 yNos when i work at a zero tolerance company..
15:10 angy :)
15:10 angy above zero or under?
15:11 yNos they have negative alcohol?
15:11 yNos other than time?
15:11 angy hum... if we create a concept of negative alcohol, we could try
15:12 yNos who is KernelTrap?
15:12 angy you can say that you naturally produce alcohol so you can't be at 0
15:13 yNos it is leftover from lastnight.
15:13 angy that can work as well
15:13 yNos 72 hours from damndrunk to sober...
15:13 yNos well
15:14 yNos with my worst highschool drunk i remember..
15:14 angy my worst was definitely not in highschool
15:15 angy but it included a ~60h of drinking quite non stop
15:15 wannabe-busy yNos: no clue, why?  (who KernelTrap is
15:16 yNos from nsfw
15:16 wannabe-busy he scarred me in there, so i have no clue
15:16 yNos lol
15:17 yNos it is raining pretty damn hard right now.
15:17 yNos wow
15:17 wannabe-busy i know...i was just outside o.O
15:17 yNos looks like the rain is bouncing...
15:17 yNos hailish
15:18 wannabe-busy noes!
15:18 wannabe-busy o.O
15:18 wannabe-busy my car is out there....
15:18 wannabe-busy and my mom and i sneezed....at the same time, in different rooms
15:21 yNos wut?
15:22 angy w00t!
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15:24 * angy just passed under 1,000 email not reader!
15:24 angy I'm keeping up (or not)
15:24 wannabe-busy lol
15:24 wannabe-busy i have 0 unread....
15:24 angy I'm now 3 weeks behind in my answers
15:25 yNos not read?
15:25 angy yes, not read
15:25 angy I think I tried to type readed
15:26 yNos lorf
15:27 yNos engrish fail :P
15:27 angy yesterday I goes to the mall!
15:27 angy here another nice failure
15:27 angy damnit
15:27 angy s/goes/goed
15:27 yNos but its fun
15:27 yNos you make better is
15:27 angy sometimes I have language collisions
15:28 angy let's forget on of them , french or english?
15:32 wannabe-busy CaptainNiobe!
15:32 angy I badly need a new wifi AP
15:32 CaptainNiobe g'day, wannabe... *hugs* what up?
15:32 wannabe-busy not much
15:33 wannabe-busy no, angy you badly need a new language :P
15:33 wannabe-busy and its "yesterday i went* to the mall" :P
15:33 angy I'm voting german
15:33 angy but I already know it a little
15:34 retupmoca I only know english :(
15:34 wannabe-busy spreckensy deutich?
15:34 * wannabe-busy fails at german spelling
15:34 wannabe-busy i know.. you can learn australian!
15:34 angy I konnte ein bisschen Deutsch gesprochen
15:35 angy I prefer learning brit accent :p
15:35 Experimentonomen der deutche sprache ist doof :P
15:36 angy Ich praktiziere mit Moose
15:36 wannabe-busy lol
15:36 wannabe-busy yeah....practice ON moose :P
15:36 wannabe-busy o.o
15:36 angy erm...
15:36 wannabe-busy lol
15:37 wannabe-busy i mean, with
15:37 CaptainNiobe lol
15:37 angy I'll have to see with her for that part
15:38 CaptainNiobe wannabe, such an adult mind :P
15:38 wannabe-busy i know, thanks
15:38 angy not in /that/ channel please
15:38 CaptainNiobe :D
15:38 wannabe-busy you mean this?
15:38 angy let me crash my brain first
15:39 * wannabe-busy reboots angy's brain
15:40 KernelTrap xD
15:42 * angy crashed in brain panic
15:42 wannabe-busy KernelTrap: who are you?
15:42 yNos ohnoes-kernel loop!
15:43 KernelTrap wannabe-busy: i've been in here for a good little while...
15:43 KernelTrap you forgot me :c
15:43 wannabe-busy i'm sorry?
15:43 wannabe-busy ....
15:43 wannabe-busy did you switch nicks?
15:43 KernelTrap yep
15:43 wannabe-busy then its not my fault!
15:44 * angy is stuck in a boot loop
15:44 * wannabe-busy presses F5 on angy's boot cycle
15:44 angy dr_jkl: Let's press5!
15:44 KernelTrap man, i've not seen that in years...
15:45 * wannabe-busy hopes she hit the right button!
15:45 * angy boot menu: 1-Standard mode, 2-Fail safe, 3-Crash me, 4-Hit someone, 5-Brit mode
15:46 tlockley 5
15:46 wannabe-busy whats safe mode?
15:48 CaptainNiobe literally, wannabe? or joking?
15:48 angy my safe mode is very unsafe
15:48 wannabe-busy what button do i hit to put angy's reboot cycle into safe mode
15:48 CaptainNiobe try f8? :D
15:49 angy I'm unix based!
15:49 CaptainNiobe oh...
15:49 CaptainNiobe still, wannabe, try f8, crash her again :P
15:49 wannabe-busy him
15:49 yNos boot> bsd -s
15:49 yNos erp
15:50 yNos boot>angy -s
15:50 wannabe-busy CaptainNiobe: angy = boy....not girl....
15:50 yNos (now enters swirling baton of death)
15:50 CaptainNiobe O.O oh, my god... i'm so sorry angy...
15:50 angy Intel© Brain© booting up!
15:51 wannabe-busy lol
15:51 * wannabe-busy hugs CaptainNiobe
15:51 angy CaptainNiobe: I'm used to it, don't worry
15:51 * CaptainNiobe hugs wannabe-busy back
15:52 * yNos is interested in the wannabe/niobe hugs
15:52 * yNos sits back
15:52 CaptainNiobe and nonetheless, angy, i AM sorry... i honestly thought you were female for some reason... :-\
15:52 CaptainNiobe lol
15:52 wannabe-busy his nick = girl name
15:52 CaptainNiobe yNos... how so? :D
15:52 yNos umm
15:52 yNos nsfw?
15:52 wannabe-busy lol
15:52 wannabe-busy hell no
15:53 yNos pfft
15:53 yNos i figured that would be the response
15:53 yNos but you are wannabe-busy
15:53 tonsofpcs yawn
15:53 wannabe-busy i might be a swinger in the swing dance sort....but not the other sorty
15:53 wannabe-busy sort*
15:53 wannabe-busy yes, i'm busy packing china
15:53 CaptainNiobe :P i'm NOT a swinger, period :D
15:54 wannabe-busy china....from japan.  you figure that one out!
15:54 angy dammit I really like the Grid4 smartphone but it runs android ><
15:54 tonsofpcs I'm busy typing on IRC
15:54 retupmoca what's wrong with android?
15:54 angy it's google based
15:54 retupmoca ah
15:54 retupmoca gotcha
15:54 angy and I got a huge allergy over google things
15:55 wannabe-busy ...
15:55 wannabe-busy astro73|derrial:  is a HUGE google fan boy...i mean, they sent him a free chromebook!
15:55 angy that's also why my search engine is Bing, from Microsoft©™
15:55 wannabe-busy i'm sorry
15:55 * wannabe-busy likes her google stuff
15:55 SparkyProjects wannabe, you can get china from the uk too, cornwall has china clay pits
15:55 SparkyProjects http://www.claytrails.co.uk
15:55 Seroster NIOBEEEEH
15:56 Seroster And haitharr SparkyProjects
15:56 CaptainNiobe SERO! *tacklehugs* :D
15:56 retupmoca yeah, google knows a lot about me
15:56 Seroster NIOBE! *Molests*
15:56 wannabe-busy SparkyProjects: i know.  i just find it funny its called china
15:56 wannabe-busy retupmoca: same....................
15:56 wannabe-busy ..............
15:56 CaptainNiobe O.O
15:56 Seroster Sure does, mister president retupmoca
15:56 wannabe-busy stop molesting my friends!
15:56 Seroster I could fondle her if you want to. =P
15:56 wannabe-busy you can molest KernelTrap  tho....he's not a friend :P
15:56 Seroster Anyhow
15:56 CaptainNiobe SparkyProjects... SERO MOLESTED MEH! :P
15:56 KernelTrap hey :<
15:57 Seroster Recycling crappy solder nets
15:57 Seroster Hi KernelTrap! you also want to be molested+
15:57 SparkyProjects Seroster, stop being a perv
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15:57 wannabe-busy o.O
15:57 angy he's good as being one though
15:57 wannabe-busy BotSteve: tell kerneltrap i was just joking, hes the one that scarred me for life in NSFW
15:57 BotSteve wannabe-busy: I'll pass that on when kerneltrap is around.
15:57 wannabe-busy thanks
15:57 Sythen tea time!
15:58 wannabe-busy ok
15:58 SparkyProjects Coffee time :)
15:58 Seroster Wat
15:58 angy for you it's nuts time
15:58 CaptainNiobe told, Seroster :P
15:58 wannabe-busy i have nuts....
15:58 Seroster You ARE nuts
15:59 wannabe-busy duh
15:59 Sythen I know im sane, i have a piece of paper to prove it hehhe
15:59 Seroster Erm.
15:59 angy I know I'm insane, I stayed too much in school
15:59 Seroster CaptainNiobe, today the early class..
15:59 CaptainNiobe oh? gonna help them today to prove you're sparter (again)?
16:00 CaptainNiobe smarter*
16:00 Sythen sparta?
16:00 wannabe-busy they told me in therapy anyone who thinks they're sane isn't
16:00 CaptainNiobe typo
16:00 angy the definition of sane and the way to define sane is quite tricky as well
16:01 * CaptainNiobe runs off to make a coffee
16:01 Sythen im me, reguardless of the label lol
16:01 Sythen and your you
16:01 Sythen you're*
16:01 Seroster The principal, the councelor, the nurse, a shrink, a teacher AND a security guard came in and said to a person "We need to talk"
16:01 Seroster He was grilled for 15 minutes
16:01 CaptainNiobe oh, jesus... wow
16:01 Seroster Came back with the principal and the guard, got another chap
16:01 angy they had a tea party? (:
16:01 CaptainNiobe cause of the crap he put on you?
16:01 Seroster And that went on all morning
16:02 Seroster 9 persons =D
16:02 Seroster I had to surpress my evil laughter all morning =P
16:03 CaptainNiobe eek... jeez, sero hon, things DO get serious when people fuck with you, don't they? :D
16:03 Seroster They have never ben so quiet during lunch =P
16:04 Seroster Yes, I know the rules good enough to avoid breaking them AND using them against others
16:04 angy wait for the payback, that will be awesome!
16:04 Seroster There is this zero tolerance for bullying
16:04 Seroster angy, If there is payback they will get expelled.
16:04 angy that's a chance I'll take
16:04 CaptainNiobe well enough* ("good enough" isn't good grammar)
16:05 Seroster And I kinda wish they would try to get revenge, would get their annoying asses out of my way =P
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16:05 angy don't worry, they will
16:05 Seroster Optimist, eh?
16:05 yNos where does the jurisdiction of the school stop?
16:05 angy realist
16:06 CaptainNiobe depends whether this talk with them settled them down, made them realise how bad what they're doing actually is
16:06 Seroster Or if it just made them angry
16:06 Seroster yNos, Eh
16:06 angy I go with Seroster way
16:06 Seroster They can give them the boot
16:06 CaptainNiobe yes, that may be an issue off campus
16:06 angy they'll be angry, lay low for a while, then try to get revange
16:06 Seroster Yep, angy.
16:07 angy that's how useless people react usually
16:07 CaptainNiobe far as i'm aware, schools have little or no jurisdiction off the shcool's property... donn't hold me to that though
16:07 yNos there are soo many ways to go about revenge while "keeping your distance"
16:07 Seroster CaptainNiobe, Well... The school
16:07 yNos they have no jurisdiction outside of the school's grouns here.
16:07 Seroster Even if they fuck with me off campus they can get booted out
16:07 yNos other than the busses.
16:08 CaptainNiobe that's something then
16:08 angy they may have jurisdiction if you can create a relation
16:08 Seroster yNos, They are less than sophisticated.
16:08 Seroster If anything they'll slice my tires
16:09 yNos that is just expensive and a scheduling pita
16:09 yNos there are better things.
16:09 Seroster I have counted to 45 cameras on the school so far. (althou only 22 in the parts I move in)
16:09 Seroster yNos, There are also 6 or so outdoor cameras, and I make sure to park my bike in front of one.
16:10 Seroster Believe me, they won't fuck with me. And if they do I will either press charges for assault/vandalism or get the principal involved
16:10 CaptainNiobe sero, perhaps it may pay to get a cam or something up on your place of residence? doesn't need to be much, just covering the front or most accessible areas...?
16:10 yNos only if you can prove it was them.
16:10 Seroster CaptainNiobe, Illegal.
16:10 Seroster yNos, Cameras, mate.
16:11 yNos thats great. do you live on campus?
16:11 CaptainNiobe it's illegal to place a camera on your own property in sweden?
16:11 Seroster CaptainNiobe, If you ask a permit you can sometimes be allowed to put a camera on your property, but you are not allowed to film the street outside
16:11 wannabe-busy bbl, gotta run to the store
16:11 Seroster I could install one in the peekhole in my door, as long as it doesnt record what goes on in the staircase =P
16:11 yNos gotta find some bood here.
16:12 Seroster yNos, No. I don't
16:12 Seroster Live on campus thatis.
16:12 yNos figured not.
16:12 CaptainNiobe that's messed up... some rather nasty neighbourhood problems have been proven because of residences placing cams externally here...
16:12 yNos you cant live under a camera
16:12 yNos can you have a helmet cam?
16:12 angy you can live under a camera and live stream it as a art project :p
16:12 Seroster In public yes, in shcool no.
16:12 Seroster Erm
16:12 yNos ok
16:12 yNos food time
16:12 yNos afk a bit
16:13 Seroster I think Ill take that problem as it comes.
16:13 angy bon appétit!
16:13 angy live streaming your life?
16:13 CaptainNiobe tgg live streams, even if it's just leonard street :P
16:14 Seroster You may also have noticed that I live in another country with different laws.
16:14 CaptainNiobe i know that sero...
16:15 Seroster Anyhow
16:15 Seroster I'll be fine.
16:15 angy connect them to the power grid by ``inadvertence''
16:15 CaptainNiobe i'm just trying to think of anything that may help you, since it appears these guys aren't willing to let up...
16:15 angy Seroster: you will, you kick ass (:
16:15 Seroster Maybe they'll try to kick my ass, but if they do theyll realise I'm fucking crazy and don't care about pain =P
16:15 Seroster CaptainNiobe, Ill manage =)
16:16 CaptainNiobe :)
16:16 Sythen tea make sythen want to glomp
16:16 Sythen lol
16:16 Seroster SEE! It's a sexual act!
16:17 * CaptainNiobe glomps Sythen :D it ain't sexual
16:17 angy you got a weird reaction to tea
16:17 Sythen yup! :3
16:18 Seroster CaptainNiobe, Anyhow. It was fucking beuatiful
16:18 Seroster The way they were taken out
16:18 CaptainNiobe i'm sure it was... i just hope it has an effect...
16:19 Seroster Heh
16:19 Seroster With like 50 people staring at you when you come into a room and then grill you for 15 minutes.. It has an effect.
16:20 CaptainNiobe i didn't mean at that moment, i meant for all future interactions...
16:20 Seroster Probably will =)
16:21 CaptainNiobe they've been irking you for a while, so if the overall outcome is positive, it's a good result all 'round
16:26 Sythen tea time i think
16:28 CaptainNiobe we generally call it dinner here... :)
16:28 Sythen same here
16:33 CaptainNiobe bit hard for it to be dinnertime here though, it's 2:30am :D
16:34 Sythen hehe
16:34 Sythen i had pie
16:34 Sythen it was nice
16:34 CaptainNiobe that's it, Sythen, i'm moving in... :P
16:34 Sythen heheh
16:35 CaptainNiobe of course, first i'd need to *get* there... lol...
16:35 Sythen heh
16:42 angy I really need to fetch something to eat as well
16:44 * Experimentonomen just had a pizza
16:44 angy I'm trying to go light theses days
16:45 angy I already lost too much weight
16:49 angy and I'm now under 200 unread emails
16:49 wannabe1987 yay
16:49 angy I just deleted 800 of them without even opening them
16:50 wannabe1987 lol
16:50 wannabe1987 i wondered
16:50 wannabe1987 thats what i do w/ my yahoo acct aka my junk acct
16:53 angy I map all my emails account into a single client and I use a lot of extension for the addresses ;)
16:54 yNos|lunch back
16:54 angy had a nice lunch?
16:55 CaptainNiobe welcome back... enjoy lunch?
16:55 yNos meh
16:55 angy meh? you had a cow at lunch?
16:55 yNos cheap(releatively) flatbread with basil pesto/smoked peppers/tomatos/mushrooms
16:56 angy all that for a liver and a kidney! it's on sale!
16:56 yNos only $5.80 for a lunch..
16:56 yNos angy: i dont eat a lot of meat.
16:57 yNos spend 6ish years a a vagitarian.
16:57 yNos ohmy
16:57 yNos that was a wonderful typo
16:57 yNos and accurate ;)
16:57 angy so you're a vagitarian?
16:57 wannabe1987 um...
16:57 angy tell us more!
16:57 yNos am not now..
16:57 CaptainNiobe LMFAO!!!
16:57 wannabe1987 no meat?
16:57 angy no vagi...?
16:58 yNos was when i lived on the "collectivist union" thing with my parents
16:58 yNos didnt eat meat..
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16:58 yNos from 10-16 the only meat i at was fish ;)
16:58 angy milk and eggs or not?
16:58 wannabe1987 do you now?
16:59 yNos ohyes
16:59 wannabe1987 my housemate is allergic to fish .  poor girl
16:59 wannabe1987 ok good
16:59 yNos still dont eat pork
16:59 yNos it still doesnt like me.
16:59 angy weird, usually pork eats anything
16:59 yNos occasionally i sneak a couple picese of bacon
16:59 yNos but not often
16:59 SparkyProjects I don't know how people can be vegetarian when there's fried bacon :D
17:00 yNos it doesnt like me ;)
17:00 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyWN5017wD8
17:00 yNos i dont need meat.
17:00 yNos but i enjoy it.
17:00 yNos like beer
17:00 yNos i dont need it
17:00 yNos but i enjoy it
17:00 angy speed eat, eat liquid
17:01 CaptainNiobe yuck, beer... lol...
17:01 angy that's for guiness
17:02 yNos most of the people i know that "dont like beer" enjoy some of thet malted beferages i make.
17:02 yNos ginger ale
17:02 angy beeferage?
17:02 angy (:
17:03 yNos barley soda (NA)
17:03 yNos ohyeah
17:03 CaptainNiobe ginger ale? eww, sorry, to me that tastes worse than beer... :-\
17:03 wannabe1987 i find ginger ale to tast odd
17:03 yNos you dont have vernors down there...
17:04 wannabe1987 taste* in a way i don't like
17:04 * wannabe1987 goes to nom food
17:04 yNos do you like meade?
17:04 CaptainNiobe never tried it
17:04 angy don't eat the Toast that's not here
17:04 yNos i have made them taste like a meade with a slight ginger/nutmeg/clove flavor
17:05 yNos i have made them taste like ginger candy ;)
17:05 yNos it is a spectrum, not just A or B
17:05 wannabe1987 i've never had meade either
17:05 yNos honey wine ftw
17:06 yNos sweet or dry, its all good.
17:06 wannabe1987 sweet only please!
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17:08 angy Hi Steve
17:08 wannabe1987 hi steve
17:08 egrsteve hello
17:09 yNos hey tehre
17:13 yNos someone want to do my job for me.. i pay you.. slightly less than they pay me ;)
17:13 angy if I can crash all, I'll do it for free
17:13 exor674 yNos: so is that 1 fraction of 1 cent?
17:14 yNos i have soo many projects going on now.
17:14 yNos i need another of me
17:14 yNos i cant keep up
17:14 exor674 yNos: I am sure someone can clone you
17:14 angy get a trainee
17:16 yNos they wont hire anyone else on.
17:17 yNos there are no available FTE positions in IT.. they closed them all before filling to make our lives hell
17:18 yNos at least it feels like that was their sole intention
17:18 CaptainNiobe cost cutting?
17:18 yNos yeah
17:19 CaptainNiobe let them know how difficult the job is without another person?
17:19 SparkyProjects So much cost cutting they sold your desks didn't they ?
17:19 yNos they know.. at least my manager does.
17:19 yNos SparkyProjects: they took my desk away because they are consolidating 2 large buildings into one. they need higher people dnesity
17:20 yNos grr
17:20 SparkyProjects Ah,, so they sold a building
17:20 yNos not yet
17:20 yNos they are sitting on it, waiting to sell
17:21 yNos but if someone comes along and offers a crapload of money 'cuz they want it now..
17:21 yNos we are ready.
17:21 * yNos mutters something about rage
17:22 SparkyProjects At least you can work at the lab now :)
17:23 exor674 telecomuting IT staff seems like a dumb idea
17:25 exor674 sepending on what you *fix*
17:25 exor674 depending on...
17:25 exor674 "oh hey the VPN server blew up"
17:27 SparkyProjects Telecommuting seems better to me, you can work from home (saves travelling costs), you're probably more flexible.
17:27 SparkyProjects But i bet you can't get the company to pay you rent for your space :P
17:27 SparkyProjects I can never understand why people want to be stuck in traffic jams for a couple of hours just to be sat in front of a computer all day, then have to spend another couple of hours to get home.
17:28 exor674 SparkyProjects: until you are in charge of fixing the infrastructure that enables you to telecommute
17:28 exor674 ( not sure if that is yNos' job )
17:29 SparkyProjects That's true, but if there were more telecommuters, those that fix the infrastructure will have clear roads
17:30 yNos i dont have to deal with fixing VPNs anymore
17:30 yNos that is nice
17:30 yNos i can work from anywhere, but am required tocome in a few times a week for meetings/whatever.
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17:31 angy use telepresence :)
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17:33 yNos i use telepres when i can.
17:33 yNos its ok..
17:33 yNos there are a few groups who "cant use telepres"
17:33 angy staple them to death
17:34 yNos because they ate non-techincal people in a technical field.
17:34 yNos **are
17:34 yNos note ate
17:34 yNos qwertyfail
17:34 angy eating people is a way of life
17:34 yNos %s/ate/are/g
17:35 yNos %s/not/not/g
17:35 yNos %s/note/not/g
17:35 angy you failed a substitution :)
17:35 angy too much work yNos
17:35 yNos can i go to bed?
17:35 angy fine for me
17:35 yNos i need to find one
17:36 angy get yourself somewhere where no-one ever goes
17:37 angy and install your bed there
17:37 yNos i need an upper mechanical
17:39 angy I can give you the mechanical :p
17:39 wannabe1987 i wish i could take my car to TGG and have someone work on it and fix it for me....
17:40 wannabe1987 like seriously
17:40 yNos whats wrong with it?
17:41 * yNos thinks angy needs to get laid.
17:41 * yNos or sober.
17:41 wannabe1987 springs are shot in the back, ball joints in the front are bad, and the tires all need to be replaced....esp back passenger, its leaking
17:42 wannabe1987 and engine oil leaks, but eh
17:42 yNos can you get parts?
17:42 yNos save $50-80 for an alignment.
17:43 wannabe1987 i don't have $$, but i'd buy parts, yes.
17:43 wannabe1987 i'd love to have this done b4 winter....
17:44 yNos i dont know if we have a spring compressor..
17:44 yNos what kind of car?
17:45 wannabe1987 97 ford escort
17:45 yNos honest opinion?
17:45 yNos kill it with fire
17:45 wannabe1987 buy me a new (used) one and i will.
17:46 SparkyProjects On the radio station i listen to they have a 'confessions' spot, people can confess their old sins and seek forgivenes, this one came up today and i can see why this guy failed his physics, i sent an email and waiting to see if they read it out.
17:46 SparkyProjects http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b014gj1h
17:48 wannabe1987 o.O
17:49 SparkyProjects Can anyone see the thing i picked up on ?
17:50 wannabe1987 my car?
17:51 wannabe1987 flinging mercury :P
17:55 angy time to move!
17:55 angy See ya!
18:07 * Experimentonomen tries playing a nintendo ds game on his pc but has a bit of a hard time figuring out what keys on the keyboard that belong to the buttons mentioned in the game
18:14 wannabe1987 lol
18:16 NeWtoz BotSteve, seen Ponko
18:17 wannabe1987 .seen ponko
18:17 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw ponko 18.23 hours ago at 2011-09-26 00:03:36 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:17:14 UTC
18:17 NeWtoz .seen Ponko
18:17 BotSteve NeWtoz: I last saw ponko 18.23 hours ago at 2011-09-26 00:03:36 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:17:17 UTC
18:17 NeWtoz well, I was just getting there ;)
18:17 wannabe1987 no offense meant....
18:17 NeWtoz of course
18:18 NeWtoz I have to think for a minute when I use this bot, because I've been using a separate bot in another channel for years
18:18 NeWtoz and its commands are close but slightly different
18:19 tonsofpcs yNos: I just found a SMC "10 Base T Concentrator"
18:20 NeWtoz I tend not to concentrate on 10 base t anymore
18:26 yNos 10 base t concentrator?
18:26 yNos how does that work?
18:26 yNos a router?
18:27 yNos or an atm concentrator that has bnc connectors on it?
18:28 yNos i havent used much 10baseT
18:28 yNos i thought you ran it in a single run bus..
18:29 Sgt_Lemming afaik 10 base t can also be 10mbit ethernet
18:29 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I have the following messages for you:
18:29 BotSteve At 11:11Z, lwq-sleeping asked me to tell Sgt_Lemming that lwq1996 was creeping on him in the hackerspack and kept moving the camera....so thats why its out of position
18:29 Sgt_Lemming as opposed to 10mbit thinnet
18:30 yNos baseT is coax
18:30 yNos half duplex
18:30 yNos slow
18:30 yNos suck
18:30 Sgt_Lemming oh wow
18:31 Sgt_Lemming wikipedia is down...
18:31 NeWtoz works for me
18:31 Sgt_Lemming and #wikipedia is getting raped
18:31 Experimentonomen o_O
18:32 Sgt_Lemming main page works, search doesn't
18:32 NeWtoz working for me too
18:32 Sgt_Lemming yeah, just started working again
18:33 * Experimentonomen decides to go to bed
18:33 Experimentonomen nite peepz
18:33 Sgt_Lemming I was getting an error before though
18:33 Sgt_Lemming page from there site saying it wasn't working
18:33 Sgt_Lemming yNos, BaseT is twisted Pair, Base2 is coax
18:33 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10base2
18:33 Sgt_Lemming .w 10baset
18:33 BotSteve "Ethernet over twisted pair technologies use twisted-pair cables for the physical layer of an Ethernet computer network." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10baset
18:38 yNos ahh
18:38 yNos ok
18:38 Sgt_Lemming yeah
18:38 Sgt_Lemming nice and condusing
18:39 yNos everything i did in networking before the world of 10/100 was ax.25 ;)
18:39 yNos and dialup
18:39 Sgt_Lemming I have nightmares about token ring
18:39 yNos 2400baud ftw
18:39 Sgt_Lemming I was working with it up until 2004
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18:41 angy_mobile Boo!
18:42 tonsofpcs yNos: 10baseT is ethernet.  10base2 is thinnet.
18:43 Sgt_Lemming already been stated tonsofpcs
18:43 tonsofpcs anyway, it appears to be a HUB with an AUI port
18:43 yNos WOOT AUI!!
18:44 tonsofpcs heh
18:44 tonsofpcs I have a twisted pair AUI at home for one of my NICs :)
18:44 angy_mobile Im with you on aui!
18:44 yNos i have a few cisco 2500s with 2 aui and 2 v.32
18:44 tonsofpcs if only I had a vampire tap, I'd so be running a bus for that ;)
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18:45 tonsofpcs v.32 4-wire modem?
18:45 angy_mobile I'm on a bus ;)
18:45 yNos t1 equipment
18:45 yNos i think i have a cisco 1100 also
18:45 * yNos gasp
18:46 angy_mobile Plain old t-rates
18:47 tonsofpcs oh, I found an ISDN modem too... well, a "3 com Office Connect
18:48 tonsofpcs remote 530s"
18:50 angy_mobile I found not that long ago a 3com isdn router used as a hub somewhere
18:50 angy_mobile That was kind of sad to pay that much just to act as a hub
18:52 angy_mobile Bus stop! See ya!
18:53 Sgt_Lemming god I feel sorry for whichever poor sob lives in that house after photonicinduction
18:54 Sgt_Lemming cause fuck he makes a mess of that attic room, there'd be so much evil shit in the carpet of that room
18:57 SparkyProjects I think photy can afford new carpets and redecoration :P
18:57 Sgt_Lemming me too
18:57 Sgt_Lemming considering the sort of crap he buys all the time
18:59 SparkyProjects Considering he owns a company
18:59 Sgt_Lemming ah, didn't know that one
19:00 SparkyProjects Look at one of his latest vids, he talks about health and safety, he's in a suit in his home office
19:00 Sgt_Lemming kk
19:01 SparkyProjects I believe his profile says CEO or something
19:04 Sgt_Lemming seriously, they age restricted his video because it has a vibrator in it...?
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19:05 tonsofpcs this thing doesn't have a hub in it.
19:09 wannabe1987_ dead battery, ttul bye
19:30 Cprossu hello all what's up?
19:30 Cprossu ajprog_laptop you avail?
19:30 ajprog_laptop yeah for a few
19:31 Cprossu I need to do a chkdsk on the stream computer
19:31 Cprossu I've figured out what causes the lock ups.
19:31 Cprossu it's a driver disk write issue.
19:31 ajprog_laptop ok
19:32 ajprog_laptop heading up there
19:33 Cprossu so in other words computer going off while streaming = death
19:38 yNos gdamn
19:38 yNos i am going home.
19:38 Cprossu hey yNos I see you've been busy o_o
19:39 yNos kinda
19:39 yNos whats going on?
19:39 yNos erp
19:39 yNos whats up?
19:40 Cprossu trying to fix what ales the stream machine
19:40 yNos ahh
19:40 yNos i havent done anything with it.
19:40 yNos not sinde the eraser
19:40 yNos a few weeks ago
19:41 yNos **since
19:41 yNos but i do need to roll
19:41 yNos catcha later.
19:41 Cprossu later yNos
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19:51 Sgt_Lemming lo kate
19:51 Katemonster hey lemon
19:51 Sgt_Lemming ...?
19:51 Katemonster what?
19:52 Sgt_Lemming lemon?
19:52 Katemonster Sergeant Lemon King.  lemon is shorter to type than lemming.
19:52 Sgt_Lemming right...
19:52 Katemonster also i'm strange and probably stupid so you can safely ignore most of what i say.
19:52 Sgt_Lemming heh
19:53 Sgt_Lemming I'm gonna go sleep soon
19:53 Sgt_Lemming it's 05:53 here
19:53 Katemonster stupid timezones.
19:54 wannabe-afk awwww
19:54 Katemonster hi wanna
19:54 wannabe1987 we had this discussion yesterday
19:54 wannabe1987 hi polly :P
19:55 Katemonster don't make me fire a nyanclear weapon at you.
19:55 wannabe1987 ...
19:56 Katemonster seriously, you know that video was awesome.
19:56 wannabe1987 it was.  and i posted it on the picture cuz people commented "nyan"
19:57 Sythen nyan?
19:57 Katemonster nyan.  nyan cat.
19:57 Katemonster weaponized nyan cat.
19:57 Katemonster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs-qfcfnsBw
19:57 Seroster fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
19:57 Katemonster something wrong seroster?
19:57 Sythen WTF!
19:58 Sythen ROFL
19:58 Seroster nyan
19:58 wannabe1987 what happened Seroster?
19:58 Seroster nyan
19:58 * wannabe1987 covers ears
19:58 Sythen thats the best weapon mode ever
19:59 Katemonster innit?
19:59 Sythen sick man!
20:01 Katemonster nyansplosions.
20:03 Cprossu yay
20:03 Katemonster hi cpu
20:04 Cprossu hi Katemonster
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20:06 Katemonster ANGY_mobile!
20:06 angy_mobile Kate!
20:06 angy_mobile I was kind of worried to not see you around!
20:07 Katemonster lol
20:07 Katemonster school started.
20:07 angy_mobile Exact opposite for me
20:07 Katemonster not much free time now.
20:07 Katemonster unfair.
20:07 angy_mobile And it stopped for ever!
20:07 angy_mobile No more school for me
20:08 angy_mobile I just had a job interview but I think I'll turn them down if they offer me something
20:08 Katemonster no more school... ever?
20:08 angy_mobile I got my M.Sc.A. A few days ago
20:08 angy_mobile The ever may be killed by a
20:09 angy_mobile PhD thogu
20:12 Katemonster http://aggiesprite.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/dangersign.jpg
20:12 wannabe1987 yay she got the thing that was stuck in the disposal out :D
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20:14 wannabe1987 hi injektion.  how are you today?
20:15 Nazca omg... I've just had an awesome idea
20:16 Cprossu take a piss in the frozen foods section and watch the steam rise?
20:16 Nazca get a decent height room and install a faraday cage false ceiling, then set some tesla coils to discharge in to that space
20:17 Nazca you could walk under it and it would be epic
20:17 Cprossu faraday cages are very picky.
20:18 Nazca well yes ... to be honest anything that would block the arcs from coming down would probably do
20:20 injektion I'm good wannabe1987
20:20 angy_mobile Toast!
20:20 injektion Can't believe Pride for Atlanta is in October again
20:20 Toastdude angy_mobile!
20:21 * Toastdude hugs angy_mobile
20:21 Toastdude Hi Katemonster
20:21 * wannabe1987 hugs Toastdude
20:21 Katemonster hi toasty
20:21 * Toastdude hugs wannabe1987
20:21 angy_mobile There is a buses traffic jam!
20:21 Toastdude Are you feeling better wannabe?
20:21 wannabe1987 no.  but i'm actually up and doing things so maybe :P
20:22 Toastdude :(
20:22 Toastdude Feel better, darn it!
20:22 wannabe1987 ikr
20:22 angy_mobile Due to the last puns, I think she is
20:22 angy_mobile Notably tho /on/ pun earlier
20:23 Nazca OOOOOOOOOOH! gemini is happy! orgasmic lightning!
20:23 Toastdude o.O
20:23 Toastdude Nazca: Are they firing Gemini off now?
20:24 Nazca Toastdude: I'm watching ... uh ... sunday's blog
20:24 Toastdude Ah
20:25 angy_mobile Don't you dare try to pervert the Toast!
20:25 Toastdude angy_mobile: Too late....
20:26 angy_mobile Bus stop, I'll be out for a few
20:26 wannabe1987 the toast?
20:26 wannabe1987 is he an object now?
20:26 angy_mobile The Toast
20:26 angy_mobile Capitalization change all
20:26 wannabe1987 lol
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20:30 Sasha__ You guys see the MythBusters episode description for the 5th of october?
20:30 Toastdude No... Why?
20:31 Sasha__ "The MythBusters are swinging for science - testing a viral video that supersizes Newton's cradle using wrecking balls to transfer energy. Kari, Grant, and Tory tackle a Hollywood classic - is a bird landing on your hood enough to tip your car off a cliff?"
20:32 Toastdude I want to watch that one
20:32 Toastdude I wish I had TV...
20:32 Sasha__ It's called torrents :P
20:33 Toastdude :P
20:33 Cprossu OH GOD.
20:34 Sasha__ However unfortunately my dad screwed up my whole torrent downloading system...
20:34 Toastdude Haha
20:34 Toastdude :P
20:34 wannabe1987 yNos|away should come for dinner tonight....:P
20:35 Toastdude I don't like illegal stuff...
20:35 Cprossu tggmc / ajprog_laptop /anyone at the geek group I just remembered something. You might want to check that hacked open Tahitian Treat 2 Liter soda bottle which is inside of master control below the weathercam cable penetrations.
20:35 Cprossu at best it's breeding mosquitos and at worse it could be overflowing.
20:37 Sasha__ It ain't funny... I used his computer that he leaves on 24/7 to dl everything, until he noticed the little uTorrent icon in the taskbar... after that he found my 200gb + of downloads, deleted uTorrent (with my finely tuned RSS feeds, automatic file conversions and remote control feutures), and now I have to start from scratch - at least now I know what a boss key is!
20:39 Sasha__ BTW, I got to go...
20:40 Nazca I've just noticed... anyone know how many times Chris burnt his eye brows off to make them so small? lmao
20:49 wannabe1987 ONION
20:49 ajprog_laptop Cprossu: yeah dave wants to talk to you about that
20:51 Seroster Mrfgh.
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21:04 tonsofpcs Cprossu: hacked open tehetian treat?
21:04 tonsofpcs *tahitian
21:05 tonsofpcs catching rain water?
21:08 angy joined #thegeekgroup
21:08 * egrsteve is bored in class designed a tesla coil modulation circuit instead
21:09 angy you can't be that bored, you have the IRC
21:09 ajprog_laptop egrsteve: great use of your time
21:09 ajprog_laptop you going to stop by tonight and implement it?
21:10 wannabe1987 angy so irc != bored?
21:11 angy it's a way not to be bored
21:11 angy if you're /on/
21:11 * angy hugs Toastdude
21:11 * Toastdude hugs angy
21:14 egrsteve impiment no, but I am trying to finnish the schemadic in time for revision 1 of Kidwell /eakins coil
21:15 Seroster Fuck it dude. Let's go bowling.
21:15 angy what is the class supposed to be on?
21:15 Seroster was kicked by Seroster: Seroster
21:15 wannabe1987 ....
21:15 Seroster joined #thegeekgroup
21:15 wannabe1987 poor seroster
21:15 wannabe1987 he kicked himself
21:15 Seroster I didnt know that was fucking possible xD
21:15 wannabe1987 yeah...i've seen it done before
21:15 Seroster And I got plenty to go around wannabe1987
21:15 wannabe1987 no thanks....
21:15 Seroster Couldnt do that on the net I am used to
21:15 Toastdude LOLOLOLOLOLOL
21:15 Seroster Anyhow. Goodnight,
21:16 angy did he kick himself in the nuts?
21:19 wannabe1987 yes
21:29 tonsofpcs grr @ windows
21:29 tonsofpcs I want to split this external drive into a FAT partition and a NTFS partition... I can only format FAT in "quick removal" mode, I can only format NTFS in "performance" mode....
21:35 egrsteve thats windows for you
21:35 angy if it's fat, it can't be performance :p
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21:38 pperrilles Toast Dude?
21:39 Toastdude NOOOOO pperrilles!!!
21:40 yNos|away hey everyone
21:40 Toastdude Hi yNos
21:40 angy The Return of the yNos
21:40 yNos am playing
21:41 yNos just made a discovery
21:41 yNos cprossu will lol
21:41 angy you made a space shuttle?
21:42 wannabe1987 yNos you're alive :P
21:42 yNos nop, wurm burner
21:42 yNos i made it home at least..
21:42 yNos roast is in the pan
21:42 yNos cooking onions making my eyes water.
21:43 wannabe1987 i soak mine in water first....
21:44 wannabe1987 for 15 minutes, and i was good :D
21:44 yNos 2 of the wrt54g routers left by cprossu are babbling over the wireless for some reason..
21:45 yNos who here knows what a stone burner is and why they are illegal?
21:45 yNos w/o googling
21:45 tesla4d joined #thegeekgroup
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21:47 pegasus amusing error message: /bin/ls: cannot access *?*: No such file or directory
21:48 tesla4d LIST ALL THE DIRECTORIES!
21:48 yNos you would need to escape out the ?
21:48 yNos ls *\?*
21:48 yNos why do you have a ? in the filename?
21:49 yNos that is asking for issues
21:49 angy it's fun to borked up filesystems
21:49 pegasus $ ls *\?*
21:49 pegasus /bin/ls: cannot access *?*: No such file or directory
21:49 Ycarene I hate factory rumors
21:49 pegasus there are no files with question marks in their names
21:49 yNos oh
21:49 yNos ls -lah
21:49 pegasus it amuses me that it does not show you the escape there
21:49 angy I go with ls -Alh, but same
21:49 Ycarene oops, wrong channel....
21:50 pegasus pegasus@victim/pts/10:~$ alias
21:50 pegasus alias ls='/bin/ls $LS_OPTIONS'
21:50 pegasus pegasus@victim/pts/10:~$ echo $LS_OPTIONS
21:50 pegasus --color=always -F -b -T 0
21:50 ajprog_laptop yNos: you have those routers fixed?
21:51 yNos am working on it
21:51 wannabe1987 awww so yNos you're not coming for dinner?
21:51 yNos no:(
21:51 yNos ragey gf
21:51 wannabe1987 awwww :(
21:51 wannabe1987 sadday
21:51 angy give her beer
21:52 yNos this is the week where i cant do anything right.
21:52 yNos no
21:52 yNos matter
21:52 yNos what
21:52 wannabe1987 :( :hugs:
21:54 yNos bah
21:54 yNos wiminz
21:54 yNos :P
21:54 wannabe1987 i know
21:54 wannabe1987 we suck
21:54 wannabe1987 :P
21:54 yNos i need to run to the store
21:54 yNos afking a bit
21:54 wannabe1987 ok
21:55 ajprog_laptop yNos: can you bring them in tomorrow?
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21:58 wannabe1987 speedrunnerg55!
21:58 angy spdrunnr!
21:58 Toastdude Spdrnnr!
22:04 speedrunnerg55 wannabe
22:04 speedrunnerg55 !
22:04 * speedrunnerg55 pokes his head out of his mineshaft
22:07 wannabe1987 lol
22:08 Cprossu yNos interesting.
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22:09 Cprossu probably time to just reset them and make them do something useful now that the lan is mostly ironed out @ yNos
22:10 ajprog_laptop Cprossu: I will need your help getting those working again, if yNos brings them back in tomorrow
22:10 Cprossu no problem, I shoyuld be around.
22:10 Cprossu did the nle network get renamed?
22:10 ajprog_laptop nope
22:11 Cprossu also is this the 'robotics' and 'computer lab' ones or is mooses' in that too?
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22:11 ajprog_laptop computer lab and robotics
22:12 Cprossu kk good deal.
22:13 Cprossu if I don't respond send me a text message or pm me here on irc.
22:13 ajprog_laptop ok
22:15 RageRiot w
22:18 yNos back
22:18 yNos default uname/pass?
22:19 * yNos pours an irish red
22:19 yNos both are connected to NLE
22:20 ajprog_laptop one should be connect to thegeekgroup
22:21 angy ajprog_laptop: I'll need you quite soon if you're able to build wordpress plugins
22:22 ajprog_laptop ok
22:22 yNos i have some cisco 1224s and 2 1130s in the pipe.
22:22 yNos i hope scase gets through the paperwork quick like
22:22 RageRiot what is the recover passwork for nickserv?
22:23 RageRiot cmd
22:23 RageRiot hi btw :)
22:23 yNos 1130s for the cafe(cuz thems r purdy) and the 1224s for the rest of the building
22:27 yNos **1240
22:28 yNos they vlan, so that is nice.
22:28 yNos can serve up multiple SSIDs off the same pice of hardware/channel
22:32 yNos not sure if they need antennae or not.
22:33 angy depend on the series I think
22:33 yNos i dont know which version they are yet :(
22:33 yNos just know they came off from the factory floor.
22:33 angy I know one of them have building antenna
22:33 angy but most of them have just 2 antenna ports and you need the antennas
22:34 yNos i know they have rptnc connectors
22:34 yNos dont know if they have internals or not.
22:34 yNos looks like cisco has versions with and without the internals
22:35 angy it got AG and G version
22:35 angy and lots and lots of internal division between them
22:35 yNos it is ag
22:36 angy I'd say you're screwed, you need antennas but I'm not sure
22:36 yNos if we need antennas, we can make some 8 element collinears
22:37 yNos http://www.nodomainname.co.uk/Omnicolinear/2-4collinear.htm
22:37 yNos somethins like these guys
22:37 angy that's it AG no antennas, G antennas
22:38 yNos if you need G, jack in
22:38 yNos can scale those to G if we need to
22:39 angy after that, you need to see if it's LWAPP or not
22:39 angy if it's unified, you need the Cisco controller for them as well
22:40 angy I don't know if LWAPP can be used autonomously or not
22:41 yNos hostAP is supposed to work well with them ;)
22:43 angy in unified mode? that's a huge news if it works
22:43 yNos i dont know about unified mode
22:43 yNos not sure what that is..
22:44 angy a mode where the AP is dumb as hell and download configuration from a central Cisco server
22:45 angy also known as screw you mode
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22:45 injektion Probably uses TFTP as well
22:46 yNos tftp is easy
22:46 injektion I've had BOOTP/TFTP working perfectly then all of a sudden: nothing
22:47 yNos really?
22:47 injektion yes
22:47 yNos what server were you using?
22:48 injektion Something that came with the thin client management software I was using
22:48 yNos i had a few thin clients around the house that used tftp for boot/config
22:48 yNos i think i still have it running.
22:49 injektion It was 2x's software because it was free
22:50 yNos ahh
22:50 yNos mine is on an openbsd box..
22:50 yNos because its free ;)
22:51 yNos :( 1240 doesnt support 802.11f
22:54 injektion I need to find some better thin client software
22:56 yNos what clients are you using?
22:56 injektion Old PCs
22:56 yNos what software are you using?
22:57 injektion RDP
22:57 injektion 2x is nice but it's overtly complicated and tends not to work
22:59 yNos tftpboot a small *nix distro set to auto-login with an rdp client setup in .xinitrc ?
23:01 injektion I don't even know how to make a tftp bootable image
23:02 yNos there are howtos
23:02 yNos do you at least have similar hardware?
23:03 yNos i think there are canned tftp boot images..
23:03 yNos dhcp tells it what the "next server" is. that server has the tftp boot image on it
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23:04 yNos you setup a r/o nfs share with your root image on it.
23:07 yNos http://linuxgazette.net/issue93/levkovich.html
23:08 yNos how many workstations do you have?
23:09 injektion 2 for now
23:10 yNos easy 'nuf
23:11 yNos i had a few openbsd machines booting over the network as a proof of concept.
23:11 yNos i was running apps remotely on other machines.
23:11 yNos running X11 apps over a 10meg hub network sucks
23:12 yNos X11 sends a lot of little packets.
23:13 yNos but rdp would be a better soloution.. if i had a windows machine with multiple CALs
23:13 tonsofpcs Cprossu: dropping from 40-something to 14dBmV doesn't seem rightt, does it?!
23:13 injektion X11 is so horrible when it comes to bandwidth usage
23:14 yNos it kills the packets per second of most home routers.
23:14 yNos but the packets are tiny
23:14 tonsofpcs yNos: it probably kills the pps limits of most DOCSIS modems
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23:15 Ponko GREEN ARMY
23:15 BotSteve Ponko: I have the following messages for you:
23:15 BotSteve At 06:03Z, NeWtoz asked me to tell Ponko :) scared yet?
23:15 tonsofpcs we replaced 5 mbit "business class" cable with 15 mbit fibre... we barely hit 2Mbps most of the time... but the packet rates are crazy.
23:15 tonsofpcs AJAX is a killer.
23:15 yNos Ponko likes kawasaki?
23:16 Ponko NeWotz the Lions have been near or the 1st overall draft pick for several years if they didn't improve it would be another crime in Detriot
23:16 yNos tonsofpcs: google your modem's model # and pps
23:16 yNos most dont have it listed..
23:16 yNos routers get over run quick with X11
23:17 Ponko i don't like Kawasaki
23:17 Ponko i don't really like bikes
23:17 yNos kawasaki is the green army :P
23:17 Ponko -_- oh god
23:17 yNos or team greeen
23:17 Ponko .w Hitchin Town FC
23:18 BotSteve "Hitchin Town Football Club are an English semi-professional football club based in Hitchin, Hertfordshire." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitchin_Town_FC
23:18 tonsofpcs looks like the CMTS is telling the CPE to throttle power down too far....
23:18 Ponko THAT'S green army
23:18 tonsofpcs yNos: it was 1000.
23:18 tonsofpcs my issue now isn't pps, it's CMTS/CPE handshaking
23:19 Ponko well technically its this lot
23:19 Ponko .wa GREEN ARMY
23:19 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
23:19 Ponko .wa Green Army
23:19 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
23:19 Ponko .w Plymouth Argyle FC
23:19 BotSteve "Plymouth Argyle Football Club is an English professional football club, based in Plymouth, Devon, that plays in Football League Two." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Argyle_FC
23:20 Ponko .wa Get on you janner
23:20 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
23:20 Ponko .wa Janner
23:20 BotSteve manner  (English word);1->noun->how something is done or how it happens, 2->noun->a way of acting or behaving, 3->noun->a kind;m\'aner  (IPA: m\\:02c8&aelig;n\\:025d);man-ner  (6 letters ->2 syllables);1175 AD  (High Middle ages)  (836 years ago);Old French -> Vulgar Latin;written: 1579th most common  (1 in 15152 words)  ( &gt; 99% noun);spoken: 3043rd most common  (1 in 76923 words);(includes some inflected forms);man
23:20 * Ponko thinks botsteve is failing
23:21 yNos roasted chicken is done
23:21 yNos time to eat
23:22 yNos later everyone
23:22 Ponko and btw NeWtoz last time lions went 3-0 was 1980 and i don't think they won it all then
23:22 Ponko and you were nearly beaten by MINNESOTA
23:22 Ponko ok enough football stick
23:23 tonsofpcs mmm, chicken
23:31 wannabe1987 yNos|eating you miss yummy food.  and geeks
23:32 tonsofpcs yummy food? geeks?
23:32 wannabe1987 yes.
23:32 wannabe1987 here.  at my house.
23:32 wannabe1987 we decided the curlier the hair, the crazier :P
23:33 tonsofpcs hmm, I think if I leave now, I can be there before this time warner 'agent' responds
23:38 Cprossu damn I am hungry
23:38 Cprossu and it looks like I failed again !
23:38 Cprossu grrrrrrrrrrr
23:39 tlockley failed what?
23:39 Cprossu stream's down it means that there's another issue with it than what I had come to
23:40 Ponko well it just misses you
23:40 tlockley lol Ponko
23:40 Ponko and is having withdrawels
23:40 Cprossu lol I think you're right
23:40 tlockley but that is a bummer that its still not stayin working
23:40 Cprossu it's irritating too
23:41 tlockley indeed. what has your repair process left as possible issues?
23:42 Cprossu well the stream computer was built with literally spare parts I tossed in a suitcase and brought over
23:42 tlockley heh
23:42 Cprossu no I am not kidding.
23:42 tlockley so bring a shotun is what your saying
23:42 Cprossu no
23:43 Cprossu because I don't know where in the entire state of MI you can replace some of those parts
23:43 tlockley like?
23:43 Cprossu a socket AM2+/AM3 motherboard
23:43 Cprossu or a nicely large and cheap sata hard drive
23:43 wannabe1987 you wish you were here...we're watching dr who :D
23:43 tlockley ah. you think it is a board issue?
23:44 Cprossu I think it could be the motherboard, or the crapo ram, or the hard drive
23:44 Cprossu either way I can't seem to nail it down because the initial problem was as follows
23:44 Cprossu stream drivers constantly write to the hdd and need full DMA.
23:44 Cprossu (basically)
23:45 Cprossu there's something that gets modified/broken when the computer loses power and it f's up the driver to the point of hard lock within 20minutes to 3 hours
23:45 tonsofpcs ugh, this chat tech today is now questioning everything I do and asking me to copy/paste ping results because she doesn't believe when I say that it's showing no packet loss
23:45 Cprossu the only consistant part of the failure is that when the issue exists it _will_ fail
23:46 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yes, we call that a failure.
23:46 tonsofpcs :)
23:46 tlockley could it be something that differenet HDDs would fix?
23:46 Cprossu at this point it's worth a shot
23:47 Cprossu the annoying thing is that it either fails within 7 hours or it doesn't.
23:47 Cprossu .seen producerbill
23:47 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw producerbill 312.27 hours ago at 2011-09-13 23:30:51 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:47:19 UTC
23:47 Cprossu I damn near want to see if bill can rig me up a remote IP reset button.
23:47 tonsofpcs "please give me a minute while I research this issue"
23:48 tonsofpcs Cprossu: is this the streaming PC you're talking about?
23:48 tlockley does the stream computer have a spare pci-e x4 slot?
23:48 Cprossu we've swapped x1's
23:48 Cprossu already once
23:48 tlockley no, not for the cap card
23:49 tlockley for a 2port sas card
23:49 Cprossu there's no x4 slot.
23:49 masterofmonks http://geeks.thedailywh.at/2011/09/26/heavy-metal-looney-tunes-vid-of-the-day/
23:49 tlockley x16?
23:50 angy joined #thegeekgroup
23:51 wannabe1987 angy do you like dr who?
23:51 angy I don't think I ever watch it
23:52 Cprossu tonsofpcs: Black Magic Intensity Pro pci/e, 320GB seagate SATA, 2GB(I think) DDR2(1gbx2 if that's the case), ECS A770M-A motherboard, ATI x300 pci/e 'graphics card'
23:53 Cprossu and a antec basiq 500 power supply.
23:53 tlockley ah, so a 2port sas controller is kina out of the question on this one
23:53 Cprossu also a Phenom 9750 CPU.
23:53 Cprossu tlockley not necessary.
23:54 Cprossu it doesn't cache anything much to disk
23:54 Cprossu at least it shouldn't.
23:54 tlockley well it also shouldnt keep fucking up
23:54 Cprossu yes but I don't really know the reason it's fucking up either
23:54 Cprossu kinda hard to predict and hard to decide how to log it.
23:54 angy and windows don't log really well :)
23:55 Cprossu meaning deciding what to log it with is the important part
23:55 Cprossu and to do that I usually need an indication to what part is failing which way =/
23:58 angy did you dissect the logs yet?
23:58 Cprossu yeah they didn't say anything prior to the hard lock.
23:58 angy and? monitor the hyper transport link
23:58 Cprossu also obviously I don't have an easy way to reset a hardlocked system
23:58 Cprossu from over here.
23:59 tlockley ip attached servo :)
23:59 Cprossu hence the comment about producerbill (I'd be happy with an IP attached relay)
23:59 angy impi mother board or drac
23:59 Cprossu well the issue is 1) I don't have one of those capture cards to screw with locally

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