Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-09-28

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00:05 Cprossu Toastdude answer to that is how does a neutrino go faster through rock than light goes through a vacuum?
00:05 Toastdude Lol
00:06 Toastdude It has more energy?
00:06 Toastdude Than photons
00:08 Cprossu in other words both are questions without answers currently. Knowing the answer to one of those will invalidate your opinion on the other. QED.
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00:08 Cprossu hey egrsteve you at the lab today?
00:08 egrsteve no
00:08 egrsteve but I did just wind my first secondary
00:08 Cprossu woo!
00:08 Cprossu dow did it go?
00:08 egrsteve 2.5x10"
00:08 Toastdude Yay Steve!
00:09 egrsteve seeing I used 34awg a bit tricky
00:09 Cprossu and how many loops did you lose count at?
00:09 Toastdude What was it for?
00:09 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
00:09 egrsteve it took a few tries to get the hang of it
00:09 LeadHead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cm0Q1mA_OQ
00:09 LeadHead Watch that Cprossu, and pay attention the MAF flow (kg/hr) and the reported horsepower
00:09 egrsteve the counter was at about 1500 but I did not reset it before I started so about 1000
00:10 LeadHead the MAF pegs around 1800 kg/hr
00:10 LeadHead which is quite a lot of air
00:10 egrsteve well I reset it but not after I broke the wire after about 3 inches on the coil
00:10 Cprossu something isn't right LeadHead.
00:10 egrsteve so I had to pull it off and start over
00:10 Cprossu I just don't know what.
00:10 LeadHead What is not right
00:10 egrsteve once I got the hang if it it took abotu 25 min to wind
00:11 LeadHead In terms of what, the air flow reported
00:11 Cprossu no I am listening to the engine
00:12 LeadHead Hmm?
00:12 LeadHead One of the manifolds is leaking
00:12 Cprossu badly.
00:12 LeadHead could be what you're hearing
00:12 Cprossu now as for your numbers, let me do some calculatering
00:13 Toastdude egrsteve: How did you wind it? On a slow lathe?
00:13 LeadHead http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfMXRqTxq-g herse another video just driving around
00:14 egrsteve coil winder
00:14 Toastdude Is it something you guys made at the lab?
00:14 egrsteve a 1950s vintage machine with a counter a drill chuck and a pedel like a sewing machine
00:14 egrsteve no it's at schoo
00:15 egrsteve l
00:15 Toastdude Ah
00:18 egrsteve this is what I used
00:19 egrsteve data:image/jpg;base64,/9j/4AAQSkZJRgABAQAAAQABAAD/2wCEAAkGBhMSERUUExIUFBQWFxwWFxYUGSQcGRsgGCUXHyMdJyQZHCYeICUnHBcfHy8lJCkrLSwtFiAyNTAqNSYrLDUBCQoKDgwOGA8PFykcHCUsKSktLCksKSwpKSksLCkpLikpLCkqKSosKSwsKSwpLCkpLCwpLCkpKSkpLCwsKSksKf/AABEIAEIAWQMBIgACEQEDEQH/xAAbAAABBQEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFAAMEBgcCAf/EADsQAAIBAgMFBAYIBgMAAAAAAAECEQADBBIhBQYxQVETImGBFDJxkaGxByNSYpLB0fAzNHKi4fEkQrL/xAAYAQEBAQEBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACAwEABP/EAB8RAAIDAQACAwEAAAA
00:19 Toastdude And that's for physics?
00:19 egrsteve soyy tiny picture
00:19 Toastdude Hm... Isn't opening
00:20 egrsteve http://www.smokstak.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=62177&d=1252002238
00:20 egrsteve it's kind of like this one
00:20 egrsteve except belt drive
00:20 LeadHead Cprossu?
00:21 Toastdude Ah, I see what you're talking about
00:24 Cprossu LeadHead I am working it out. my calculations say though that you should max out somewhere before you hit 1000CFM.
00:25 LeadHead Cprossu, keep in mind its not CFM, its KG/HR
00:25 Cprossu however your map seems to peg at 5v at "60% of it's capacity"
00:25 Cprossu if you will
00:25 Cprossu your modded ecu will read up to 5v where unmodded it stops counting at 4.7
00:26 LeadHead Yes, just have to extend the table upto 5v
00:26 LeadHead instead of 4.7
00:26 Cprossu apparently there's a modification 'someone' has done to the maf itself
00:26 Cprossu to bring it to 'peg' at 5
00:27 LeadHead I've heard of diesel guys doing that
00:27 Cprossu I am just trying to see what the maximum air/lb/kg /etc is for that paticular sensor
00:27 LeadHead just search for
00:27 LeadHead Lightning Maf Curve
00:27 Cprossu the lightning/gt engine is one of 2 exeptions on yours
00:27 LeadHead you sould find around 4.7v @ 1800kg/hr
00:27 Cprossu yeah I don't have excel on this computer (doh!)
00:28 LeadHead I extrapolated using a TI-83 that at ~5.7 sensor output
00:28 LeadHead it should be around 2700 kg/hr. Apparently the curve is a 6th order polynomial
00:28 Cprossu so that's like what? around 4000lb/hr?
00:28 LeadHead 1800 kg/hr is 3900 lb/hr
00:29 Cprossu I just said around. lol
00:29 LeadHead 2700 would be closer to 5500 lb/hr
00:29 Cprossu 1800 = 3,970.
00:30 LeadHead 2 tons of air in an hour is quite a bit
00:30 Cprossu so what's your idling voltage at?
00:30 Cprossu maf wise?
00:31 LeadHead 50 kg/hr, which is around 1.2v
00:31 Cprossu that diode would really play havoc on things =(
00:31 LeadHead why is that
00:32 Cprossu because you want headroom both ways
00:32 Cprossu a 3/4 volt drop is a ton to consider
00:34 Cprossu I mean idle @ .45Volts would make me uncomfortable.
00:34 LeadHead yes
00:34 LeadHead but, I think the EEC can still resolve down that low
00:34 Cprossu the lower you go the less accurate things get from what I recall
00:34 LeadHead we'd unforutnately have to loose everything under ~40kg/hr
00:35 LeadHead but at 600 rpm warm idle, it sits at like 50kg/hr
00:35 Cprossu it's going to be one mad computer at startup
00:35 LeadHead why is that
00:35 Cprossu first start for the adaptive
00:36 LeadHead adaptive int he ford EEC only works during cruise
00:36 LeadHead and it for hte most part ignores the MAF during crank
00:36 Cprossu then what the hell does it do?
00:36 LeadHead it has a dedicated section for cranking injector pulsewidth
00:36 Cprossu I thought the thing didn't have a map
00:36 LeadHead it doesn't
00:36 Cprossu there has to be a feedback loop somewhere though
00:36 LeadHead during crank, it defaults to a table that has ECT on one axis
00:37 LeadHead and pulsewidth on another
00:37 Cprossu wow I feel like we are in 1983 again
00:37 Cprossu lol
00:37 LeadHead Eh, thats only for crank though
00:37 LeadHead one you release the key, it goes to looking at the MAf
00:37 LeadHead MAF
00:37 Cprossu yeah that's when I meant the ecu will go "FU
00:37 Cprossu not actually during 'crank'
00:38 LeadHead yeah, but it should be fine I think
00:38 LeadHead I don't know for sure though. I won't see the truck again until this friday
00:38 LeadHead so I'll see what happens after we adjust the tables
00:39 LeadHead The current MAF transfer isn't good anyways, during cruise it's rich the entire time
00:39 LeadHead even the O2 sensor gets stuck rich
00:39 Cprossu rich is way better than lean.
00:40 LeadHead unplug the MAF, and let the computer run on its default table
00:40 Cprossu unless you hydrolock it anyway
00:40 LeadHead and the O2 will start switching
00:40 LeadHead of course no boost without the maf....
00:40 Cprossu what is really irritating is the length of time it needs to make boost currently, it's so off it's scary
00:41 LeadHead oh, no
00:41 Cprossu it peaks when you don't need it to on both of those
00:41 LeadHead my friend is still afraid
00:41 LeadHead he only gently rolls into the throttle
00:41 LeadHead He stomped on it once, and that turbo lit off quick
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00:41 Cprossu well all I know is that he's defeating the purpose of having all that transmission tearing up crank power
00:41 speedrunnerg55 wannabe!
00:42 speedrunnerg55 wannabe-afk
00:42 speedrunnerg55 D:
00:42 speedrunnerg55 :(
00:42 LeadHead He's never even been in boost off the line
00:42 LeadHead or in 1st gear
00:42 LeadHead its always gentle 2nd gear roll ons
00:42 Cprossu if I had something like that my foot would be through the floorboard, and my truck through a brick wall shrtly there after @ LeadHead.
00:42 LeadHead That's what i'm saying
00:42 Cprossu and it would have been worth it.
00:43 LeadHead He stomped on it once, but the maf transfer curve was fucked
00:43 LeadHead and it started going crazy lean
00:43 LeadHead so he had to let off
00:43 LeadHead so ever since then, hes been afraid to get on it suddenly
00:43 speedrunnerg55 astro73|derrial: ?
00:43 Cprossu in that case I don't blame him
00:43 Cprossu that's how pistons get holes in 'em
00:43 LeadHead I think the blow-through setup
00:43 LeadHead is maxing the maf early
00:44 Cprossu rofl too lean and it will be 'blow-through'
00:44 Cprossu just not in the way you intend
00:44 LeadHead yeah
00:44 LeadHead also
00:44 LeadHead turns out it takes a long time
00:45 LeadHead for oil to burn out of an exhaust
00:46 LeadHead We had two issues. 1st on being blown turbo seals. Rebuilt the turbo, no big deal. 2nd was that the return line from the scavenge pump had no check valve, so when the truck sat, all the oil would leak down the return line
00:46 LeadHead and fill the turbo
00:46 Cprossu lol bet your friend wonders if he's driving a diesel
00:47 LeadHead So the exhaust has a thick coating of wet oil that just doesn't want to burn off, and the intercooler is saturated
00:47 LeadHead with oil
00:47 Cprossu yeah that sucks.
00:47 LeadHead There was so much oil in his intercooler
00:47 LeadHead that it was like a super soaker out the blow off valve
00:47 Cprossu not cool
00:47 LeadHead yeah
00:47 LeadHead I mean nothing in his engine bay will ever rust now
00:48 Cprossu it could catch fire though
00:48 LeadHead but, it gets to be a pain having to take out the MAF every 10 minutes
00:48 LeadHead and clean it
00:48 Cprossu please tell me it was at least synthetic
00:48 LeadHead well not anymore, since most of the oil is gone
00:48 LeadHead 15w40 Diesel oil
00:48 LeadHead dino
00:48 Cprossu high sulfur?
00:49 LeadHead nope :-/
00:49 LeadHead still has more zinc and moly than gasser oil though
00:49 Cprossu yay zinc.
00:49 LeadHead At least his turbo isn't hemoraging oil anymore
00:50 Cprossu it's always a battle to find oil for my friend's porche 356.
00:50 Cprossu at least sourced locally.
00:50 LeadHead air cooled?
00:50 Cprossu yep
00:50 Cprossu uses thick shit too
00:50 LeadHead yarh
00:51 LeadHead His 460 specs 10w30
00:51 Cprossu The stuff we buy is practically goey and black going in.
00:51 LeadHead rofl
00:51 LeadHead Oh yeah, my friend kept drivng the truck
00:51 Cprossu I think it's a step away from sweet crude oil
00:51 LeadHead even with it hemoraging oil like it was
00:51 Cprossu great.
00:51 LeadHead he was down to about 2 quarts in the pan
00:51 Cprossu at least he could still turn his engine off
00:52 Cprossu if it was a diesel he'd have been up shit creek
00:52 LeadHead rofl
00:52 LeadHead luckily the engine seems to have escaped unscathed
00:52 LeadHead you should have heard those lifters though
00:52 LeadHead They were angry.
00:52 Cprossu at least they weren't solid.
00:52 LeadHead Gotta love ford's psuedo-fake gauges though. Oil pressure gauge read "Normal"
00:53 Cprossu well it's no worse than chevrolet's "not zero"
00:53 Toastdude SpeedrunnerG55: !
00:53 LeadHead dumped what was left that oil out
00:53 LeadHead put 6.5 quarts of 15w40 in
00:53 speedrunnerg55 ttooassttddduuuddeee
00:53 Cprossu LeadHead yes you get a 'real' oil sensor
00:53 LeadHead lifters shut up almost instantly
00:53 Cprossu but then WTF it makes what?! 2psi idle
00:53 * speedrunnerg55 picks up Toastdude
00:53 LeadHead rofl
00:54 * Toastdude says hi to spdrnnr
00:54 Toastdude Hi
00:54 LeadHead But yeah, oil issues seemed to be solved now. Stick still shows full after a few good drives
00:54 * speedrunnerg55 carries Toastdude to a toaster and......
00:54 * speedrunnerg55 puts him down next to it
00:54 Cprossu replaced the main seal on the pos sentra.
00:54 Cprossu I hate that car so much.
00:54 LeadHead At one point though after we fixed everything, we had to pull the MAF completely out
00:54 * Toastdude thanks speed
00:54 * speedrunnerg55 hands him a slice of bread
00:54 LeadHead and just drive around
00:54 LeadHead because of how much oil had accumulated in all the piping
00:54 * Toastdude puts cousin in toaster
00:55 * speedrunnerg55 hands him another
00:55 Cprossu I bet his neighbors loved him
00:55 * Toastdude puts aunt in toaster
00:55 LeadHead eh, it wasn't bad
00:55 LeadHead because the boost piping
00:55 LeadHead just kind of shot all the oil all over the hood
00:55 LeadHead instead of in the intake
00:55 Cprossu at least it's got hollowed out cats
00:55 * speedrunnerg55 hands Toastdude a plate and butter
00:55 LeadHead hollowed out?
00:55 LeadHead no cats in this truck
00:56 Ponko oh blow me
00:56 Cprossu ahhh straight pipes good
00:56 Ponko LeadHead
00:56 LeadHead yes
00:56 Cprossu I remember you saying you were gonna hollow out the cats lol
00:56 Ponko haven't seen you for a while mate how are you
00:56 LeadHead 1 3" pipe
00:56 Cprossu but that's much better
00:56 Cprossu very nice
00:56 LeadHead from the y to the turb
00:56 LeadHead not bad ponko
00:56 Cprossu 3" is where you want to be on a turbo setup for ~950HP or less
00:56 Ponko good to hear :)
00:56 LeadHead yarh
00:56 LeadHead wastegate is limiting boost to 7 psi
00:57 LeadHead which is good as well
00:57 Ponko other than turbos whats the speil
00:57 LeadHead not much
00:57 * Toastdude gives plate and butter to aunt and cousin
00:57 LeadHead he's shipping out to the air force in december, and when he gets back
00:57 Cprossu it really sounds higher than 7 too LeadHead
00:57 LeadHead he wants to pull the engine
00:57 LeadHead and do it up
00:57 Ponko ok whats the project
00:57 Ponko or is this the Lotus
00:57 Cprossu at least without the potential air leaks
00:58 LeadHead studs, multi layer head gasket, forged pistons rods
00:58 Ponko i've miss most of it
00:58 Cprossu no this is a ford pickup Ponko
00:58 Ponko ahhh
00:58 LeadHead he wants to run 12-14 PSI
00:58 LeadHead which is nuts
00:58 Ponko get a GMC Denali
00:58 Ponko that has a never say never attitude
00:58 Cprossu pfffft
00:58 Ponko sorry had to say that
00:58 Ponko to much nfl for me
00:58 LeadHead That poor old transmission won't like a 14 PSI 460 though
00:58 LeadHead that's for sure
00:58 Cprossu I'll take your denali on Ponko, in my Chevy G1500 van.
00:58 Ponko that was there ad for a while
00:59 LeadHead neither will the axle
00:59 LeadHead or u joints
00:59 LeadHead or transfercase
00:59 LeadHead ..or tires
00:59 Cprossu or the shitty roads there.
00:59 Ponko well i'd prefer that to the McDonalds act
00:59 Ponko ad*
00:59 LeadHead It sounds like a lot more than 7
00:59 LeadHead because the turbo is right there near the exhaust outlet
00:59 Cprossu oh LeadHead
00:59 Ponko LeadHead lets just say "you're the best Mr Snuggles"
00:59 Cprossu we had someone come in here
00:59 LeadHead remote tu rbo
00:59 Cprossu ready?!
01:00 LeadHead whers here
01:00 LeadHead and ready
01:00 Ponko anyone get the reference
01:00 LeadHead nope
01:00 Cprossu he said he had built a gocart that could do a sub 4 second 1/4 mile run
01:00 Cprossu hhahahahaahahahah aha aha hah
01:00 LeadHead Yeesh, he shoul call the NHRA
01:00 Ponko you have adblocker right?
01:00 Ponko that must be why
01:00 LeadHead Tell them their top fuel dragsters ain't got shit on his gokart
01:00 Cprossu yeah screw nitro dragsters LeadHead heh
01:01 * speedrunnerg55 <3's leek spin
01:01 Cprossu oh yeah he also broke the laws of physics
01:01 * Ponko loves Allinol
01:01 Cprossu and had a renderfarm as his 'desktop computer'
01:01 Cprossu but didn't know what OS it ran.
01:01 speedrunnerg55 Ponko: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEtjK5rLA3k&amp;feature=related
01:02 Cprossu sorry you weren't there for that LeadHead I think you'd have gotten a good laugh outa it
01:02 LeadHead rofl
01:03 speedrunnerg55 ponko?
01:03 Cprossu speaking of sub 4 second runs, yay for matt hagen, 3.995 @ 1000ft
01:03 Cprossu then he made the damn thing go 322 the next day o_o
01:03 Ponko yo
01:04 Cprossu and it was a funny car o_o
01:04 LeadHead yeah 'I saw that
01:04 LeadHead nuts
01:05 Cprossu you know what's scarier?
01:05 Cprossu he lost a cyl before the stipe on the 3.995 run
01:05 Cprossu *stripe
01:05 LeadHead lost a cylinder
01:05 LeadHead no big deal, he's got 7 more
01:05 Cprossu still lost a cyl and ET as well
01:06 Cprossu that car still's got more in it. It'll be interesting when they go back to pomona.
01:06 Cprossu I hope for a bone chillingly cold with no water grains kinda day
01:06 Cprossu though I'll settle for a track temp < 89
01:07 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBMVM92tB5Q everyone click
01:07 Ponko AMOUNT OF TIME I'VE SEEN THAT PISSING AD ON A NFL VIDEO IS UNREAL
01:07 Cprossu god I fogot about how horrible that was
01:07 Ponko the ad lol
01:07 LeadHead Wonder what top fuel cars would run
01:07 Cprossu I am going to sign in to dislike it.
01:08 Cprossu fuck it.
01:08 LeadHead if they were allowed intercoolers
01:08 LeadHead Thought I supposed with the amount of raw fuel that is dumped in
01:08 LeadHead the air charge probably stas pretty cool
01:08 Cprossu nitromethane has a cooling action to it
01:08 Cprossu built right in
01:08 LeadHead yarh
01:08 Cprossu the fact most of it doesn't burn up in the engine helps
01:09 Cprossu they are pusing 10,000 hp realistically out those engines
01:09 Cprossu 500 cubic inches, 10K HP o_o
01:09 Ponko Cprossu were you talking about that ad?
01:09 Cprossu signing in to dislike it? yes.
01:10 Ponko lol
01:10 Ponko it's annoying seeing it on nfl.com over and over but what's more annoying is that here in britain we don't HAVE THAT and i LOVE TEA
01:10 Ponko i suppose we're meant to feel like that guy
01:11 Cprossu Ponko do you like cough syrup?
01:11 Ponko yes
01:11 Ponko when i have a cough
01:11 Cprossu then you'll love... oh nm.
01:11 Cprossu anyway that's what mc'd sweet tea tastes like.
01:11 Cprossu cough syrup
01:11 Ponko lol i figured that's what you meant
01:11 Cprossu and not the nice cherry or grape kind
01:11 Ponko i thought it would taste like liptons ice tea
01:11 Cprossu the shitty crap brand kind
01:12 Ponko oh god
01:12 Cprossu liptons is at least almost passable.
01:12 Ponko i'd rather buy the normal tea
01:12 Ponko and liptons is alright for me
01:12 Cprossu gotta be careful at mc'd. some don't brew it
01:12 Ponko i guess we're meant to feel like that guy though
01:13 Cprossu they use tea 'syrup' and fancy soda fountains that look like a brewed iced tea dispenser but really aren't =P
01:13 Cprossu evil.
01:13 Ponko lol
01:13 Ponko that McDs for you
01:13 Cprossu nestea = nastee. the official tea of nascar.
01:13 Ponko but we're meant to feel like that guy
01:14 Ponko he's annoyed with the pet names and we're annoyed seeing that flipping ad
01:14 Ponko nastee lol
01:15 Ponko bet it tastes like the oil from the pan of some of the Chevys
01:15 Ponko and i like Chevy
01:15 Ponko america Vauxhall
01:15 Ponko Chevy here is technically Daewoo
01:16 Cprossu I want an australian commodore V8 =P
01:16 Ponko :P ftw
01:16 LeadHead get a Pontiac G8 then
01:16 Cprossu Ponko it's because they bought out the daewoo plant and are now slapping chevy badges on em
01:16 LeadHead :-P
01:16 Ponko i know lol
01:17 Cprossu but the G8 has emissions
01:17 Cprossu and crap
01:17 Ponko that's my point
01:17 LeadHead so do aussie vehicles
01:17 Cprossu not really
01:17 Cprossu the aussies don't give a shit anymore
01:17 Cprossu it seems
01:17 Ponko alot of americans ask why i like GM and Chevy
01:17 Ponko well then i tell them where i live
01:17 Cprossu Ponko GM's interiors suck. then again so do fords.
01:17 Ponko and where my dad worked and who for
01:18 Cprossu and dodges
01:18 Cprossu =(
01:18 Ponko not GM in its entirity or Chevy
01:18 Ponko whats the GM brand in UK
01:18 SparkyProjects Vauxhall ?
01:18 Ponko and where were they based
01:18 Ponko other than Ellesmere
01:19 SparkyProjects Not sure, my Dad used to deliver to Rover
01:19 LeadHead Cprossu, Australia is currently Using US08 emissions standards
01:19 LeadHead for gas, and US07/Euro 5 for diesels
01:20 Ponko that's Birmingham
01:20 Ponko Sparky you know where i live on that google map
01:20 SparkyProjects Oh yeah, Luton
01:21 Ponko and that's why i like Vauxhalls :)
01:21 Ponko if i was a West Ham fan i'd be a ford man
01:21 Ponko born in Dagenham
01:22 Ponko but fortunately i wasn't
01:22 Cprossu sure it wouldn't be land rover?
01:22 Ponko isn't that still Birmingham
01:22 SparkyProjects My Dad had a Vauxhall Wyvern, he decided to scrap it when he opened the door and felt the car go up and down, the chassis was bending :P
01:23 Ponko i think my dad had one too
01:23 Ponko but he originally has a Wollesey 1500
01:23 Cprossu holy crap! up to 48HP!
01:24 SparkyProjects Cprossu, Land Rover HQ used to be in Gaydon Warwickshire
01:25 Ponko ahhhh yes
01:25 Cprossu how come the brits ended up competing with the USSR for the shitty car market?
01:25 SparkyProjects which is closer to birmingham
01:25 Ponko my uncle works for Aston there
01:25 LeadHead Looks like the US is suposed to under go a new emissions year in '15
01:25 LeadHead hmm...
01:25 Cprossu LeadHead you'll be able to use gasser engines as breathing apperatus soon enough
01:25 LeadHead Yeesh, cars are already emitting something like 99% less pollutants
01:25 Ponko who would be in the white house then
01:25 LeadHead than 1976 vehicles
01:25 Ponko i might be
01:26 SparkyProjects btw Ponko, Rover were based at Sollihull, on the outskirts of Brum
01:26 * Ponko nods
01:26 LeadHead I was about to make a joke saying  cars of the future will be cleaning the air, but sadly enough, in some US cities already, modern vehicles exhaust have less NOx and particulate matter than the incoming air
01:27 Cprossu LA.
01:27 Cprossu and less CO too.
01:27 LeadHead I think Chicago too
01:27 Ponko what made me laugh when i was in Brum was when i walked down one street and every single care were MG & Rover
01:27 Ponko i then remembered
01:27 LeadHead Someone needs to make a cat that converts CO2 to O2 and uh, carbon pellets?
01:28 Cprossu I'd settle for magical unicorn meat.
01:28 LeadHead Eh
01:28 SparkyProjects I used to go with my Dad from 'Pressed Steel' in Cowley to Sollihull twice a day during  school holidays, then i used to put the lorry (big truck) to bed :P
01:28 SparkyProjects I was 14 - 15
01:28 LeadHead I'd love my car to make breathable air
01:28 LeadHead and pencils
01:28 Cprossu get a diesel then
01:28 LeadHead gobs of CO2 ain't breathable
01:28 Cprossu you won't ever make enough to choke yourself
01:29 Cprossu and you get pencils!
01:29 Cprossu and during the right conditions you can blowtorch a hole in anything.
01:30 Cprossu brb
01:30 Cprossu fooooood time
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01:31 speed-mobile Edge network is horrible
01:31 SparkyProjects Ponko, i used to live 6 miles from MG in Abingdon, and have had a tour of the factory
01:31 SparkyProjects I used to live 16 miles from Leyland (cowley) and have had a tour of the factory, and have had a mini tour of Rovers while waiting  for Dad to be unloaded
01:32 Ponko ahhh ok
01:33 Ponko for a moment i was lost with the end of that sentence
01:33 Ponko unloaded his truck
01:33 SparkyProjects heh, he was delivering Rover 2000 bodies
01:33 Ponko lol fun times
01:33 speed-mobile Ponko did you like that video?
01:34 Ponko yes speed
01:34 SparkyProjects Got boring after delivering so many, more fun when he delivered a helicopter to Heathrow
01:35 Ponko O_O that must of been fun
01:35 SparkyProjects More fun hearing the story of his mate doing a similar helicopter delivery and getting lost, then seeing a huge plane in his wing mirrors,  he was on a live taxiway :D
01:37 Ponko haha
01:37 Ponko we are sorry about the delay
01:39 Ponko i can picture that now
01:40 SparkyProjects At Sollihull the first driver there does the uloading, first thing is to back the 30 foot trailer into a bay, they use a 'tug' which is like a forklift without the forks.
01:40 SparkyProjects My Dads mate was doing it one day and i was in the tug for the ride, he got it lined up and reversing, then hopped out leaving me in it still moving
01:40 SparkyProjects He said i could finish it off, so i jumped out as well, he had to jump back in :D
01:42 Ponko lol that would of been a health and safety issue nowadays
01:42 * Ponko had to bring HASAWA 1974 into play didn't he
01:43 SparkyProjects Yep, firstly i woldn't be allowed as a assenger in the truck, secondly i wouldn't be allowed on site at rovers without permission
01:43 SparkyProjects *passenger
01:43 Ponko lol my dads mate from college aparently welded a vice together
01:44 Ponko this was back in 68-69
01:44 speed-mobile Ponko: I got more, want?
01:44 Ponko not really
01:44 Ponko idk how i was suppose to think to it
01:44 astro73|derrial speedrunnerg55: huh?
01:44 Ponko idk what i was*
01:45 speed-mobile astro73|derrial: Do you want some?
01:46 speed-mobile astro73|derrial: ?
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01:47 astro73|derrial want some what?
01:47 speed-mobile Some links
01:47 astro73|derrial you said my name
01:47 speed-mobile ? When?
01:48 speed-mobile Just now or before
01:48 astro73|derrial before
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01:48 speed-mobile Oh sorry
01:48 speed-mobile Ughh i was bored
01:48 speed-mobile Want some links?
01:49 astro73|derrial oh, ok
01:49 speed-mobile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PozEQjXfxsE&amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player
01:49 SparkyProjects ponko, 30 foot truck with 30 foot trailer http://i51.tinypic.com/r8v59g.jpg
01:49 SparkyProjects It's what Dad drove, complete with the car bodies
01:50 astro73|derrial naw, ithis is "lets post on youtube night"
01:50 Ponko hmmm
01:51 speed-mobile Who wants more?
01:51 Ponko man i'm too tired an IE ain't responding get BotSteve to leave it in a message for me i'm off :)
01:51 Ponko and i'm refering to Sparky not you speed
01:52 Ponko lol
01:52 Ponko night
01:52 SparkyProjects Just check the log tomorrow
01:52 SparkyProjects g'night :)
01:52 Ponko ok i'll do that
01:53 Ponko night
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01:57 astro73|derrial got really quiet...
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02:15 BatSteve astro73|derrial: that's because I came back from away, and everyone is hiding from me
02:15 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
02:15 BotSteve At 27 Sep 20:55Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell BatSteve http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/funny-car-photos-old-school-car-security-system-gun-holster.jpg
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02:16 egrsteve hello
02:17 Toastdude Hi egrsteve
02:17 Toastdude BatSteve: !!
02:17 BatSteve Hi toast!
02:17 BatSteve hi egrsteve
02:17 egrsteve hello toast & batsteve
02:19 astro73|derrial my room needs more/better lights
02:19 astro73|derrial but the ceiling/wiring is not my friend
02:22 astro73|derrial it's bad enough, i've thought about doing my own cable lighting
02:29 tonsofpcs yawn
02:29 tonsofpcs evenin' folks
02:30 astro73|derrial hello tons
02:31 Sgt_Lemming sigh
02:31 tonsofpcs hiya
02:32 Sgt_Lemming I destroyed my hands last night
02:32 Sgt_Lemming 5 bandaids on one hand atm
02:32 BatSteve howdy tons
02:32 BatSteve howdy sarge
02:32 Sgt_Lemming lo steve
02:32 BatSteve BotSteve: ask CaptainNiobe if you've accepted Jesus as your personal savior
02:32 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when CaptainNiobe is around.
02:32 BatSteve thanks BotSteve
02:32 BotSteve You're welcome, BatSteve
02:32 BatSteve (:
02:33 Sgt_Lemming rofl BatSteve
02:33 Sgt_Lemming she's going to lve that :-P
02:33 Sgt_Lemming http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1456 <--- someone do me a favour and buy me two of those plskthx
02:35 Sgt_Lemming need them for my robot :-D
02:35 ajprog_laptop hi egrsteve
02:36 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: band-aids?  here, let me pass the cyanoacrylate
02:36 egrsteve hi jeff
02:36 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, I'll pass thanks
02:41 Sgt_Lemming http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1659 <--- wow!
02:42 astro73|derrial Sgt_Lemming: ... a spring kit?
02:42 Toastdude Sgt_Lemming: What type of robot are you making?
02:43 Sgt_Lemming didn't know they made a 500 in one though astro73|derrial
02:43 Sgt_Lemming I used to have their 200 in1
02:43 astro73|derrial all i had was this little CDROM/kit thing called digital lab
02:44 astro73|derrial involved anthropomorphic components
02:44 astro73|derrial and nothing so advanced as a micro
02:44 Sgt_Lemming yeah I think I know the one
02:45 astro73|derrial and then latter, we picked up a really crappy kit, called intercom lab (iirc), i think it only had an op-amp and passives. and no learning. NEver did get it to work right
02:46 Sgt_Lemming Toastdude, Combat robot for robot wars
02:46 Sgt_Lemming horizontal hammer weapon
02:46 Toastdude Cool!
02:49 dr_jkl hey ajprog_laptop you here?
02:49 BotSteve dr_jkl: I have the following messages for you:
02:49 BotSteve At 27 Sep 19:50Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell dr_jkl that xela can't reply on the forum.  can you fix his nick?
02:49 ajprog_laptop yep
02:50 dr_jkl ajprog_laptop: did you figure out i made you jeff@ this morning?
02:50 BatSteve dr_jkl: I can give you more context regarding that message if you need it
02:50 dr_jkl BatSteve: plz
02:50 dr_jkl that reminds me, i have to make 425257235237 new users for lis
02:50 dr_jkl i should go do that now (but keep talking, i'm still watching)
02:50 ajprog_laptop I haven't had a chance to check that email yet
02:50 dr_jkl kk, well next time you log in
02:51 dr_jkl use jeff@
02:51 ajprog_laptop dr_jkl: is there an google api, for doing that type of thing?
02:51 ajprog_laptop I will
02:51 BatSteve dr_jkl: did that go through?
02:51 dr_jkl ajprog_laptop: yes there is, more in a sec
02:51 dr_jkl BatSteve: yes, gracias
02:51 ajprog_laptop so we can put it in WP and have them automaticly created
02:51 dr_jkl ajprog_laptop: i'm writng code to do exactly that
02:52 dr_jkl when a user purchases a membership packet, it will make their info go into a kind of holding bin
02:52 dr_jkl and i'll approve them once a day
02:52 dr_jkl and it will automatically make the account and e-mail the user
02:53 ajprog_laptop are you doing the things for setting up the blog too?
02:53 dr_jkl i had some.. technical issues earlier this week which basically turned my computer to a smoldering pile of goo
02:53 dr_jkl yes
02:54 ajprog_laptop ok, one less thing on my plate
02:54 ajprog_laptop thanks
02:54 dr_jkl it's just perl
02:54 dr_jkl :)
02:54 dr_jkl np
02:54 dr_jkl i do sysadmin stuff for a living. automation is fun :D
02:54 ajprog_laptop I was going to do it in php as part of a wp plugin, but what ever works
02:55 dr_jkl ugh
02:55 dr_jkl php
02:55 dr_jkl well
02:55 dr_jkl i may want your help
02:55 dr_jkl i can write all the system code for a few things but i might need your help with a small plugin for the store
02:55 ajprog_laptop that is what I do all day (when Chris isn't yelling at me to do something around the lab)
02:56 dr_jkl heh
02:56 dr_jkl let's um
02:56 dr_jkl let's take this somewhere else so i can stop spamming the shit out of the main channel
02:56 ajprog_laptop lol
02:56 dr_jkl like #tgg-webteam i guess
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02:57 * angy-away hugs Toastdude
02:57 Toastdude Angy!
02:57 * Toastdude hugs angy-away
02:57 angy-away Toasty!
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02:58 angy time to cook!
03:02 BatSteve angy: what are you cooking?!
03:02 BatSteve I hope it's pizza.
03:02 angy not really, pasta
03:02 angy I'm making a vodka/bison pasta sauce
03:05 angy I decided that I had to finish the vodka tonight
03:05 angy and I'd rather not drink it all
03:06 BatSteve vodka+bison?
03:06 BatSteve is that what it sounds like?
03:06 angy I have bison meat and vodka
03:06 angy just add some pepper and it's great combinasion
03:07 astro73|derrial i feel like i need more mead in my life, but booze is expensive
03:08 * BatSteve wonders what besides whiskey goes well with sour
03:08 BatSteve .g sour mash drink recipe
03:08 BotSteve BatSteve: http://homedistiller.org/wash-grain2.htm
03:09 BatSteve hurm
03:09 BatSteve apparently nothing
03:09 angy it really depend what you want to achieve
03:10 tonsofpcs so what exactly are bitters? we were gonna make a manhattan earlier but apparently I didn't buy them when I thought I did, was wondernig if I could 'make' them....
03:10 angy bitter can be picon
03:11 angy or suze, campari, ...
03:11 Sgt_Lemming angostura ftw
03:11 angy it's based on bitter plants infused in alcohol
03:12 angy I tend to do manhattans using jägermesiter or orange bitters
03:12 angy and extra-dry vermouth
03:12 tonsofpcs I have some old extra-dry vermouth, should probably replace it
03:13 angy vermouth is not a bitter though
03:13 tonsofpcs no, it's vermouth.
03:13 angy I like using dubonnet, but I'm biased :)
03:14 tonsofpcs I used the extra-dry for arroz con pollo for the world cup party
03:14 angy french vermouth are very different from italian ones
03:18 angy but for cocktails, I always say to go your way
03:19 angy in most of the cases it will be a disaster, but you may do something very nice on the way
03:19 astro73|derrial ... i think i need to learn more on this topic
03:20 angy and don't use expensive bases for cocktail, especially the whisky/vodka based ones
03:21 ajprog_laptop angy: how is defending going?
03:21 angy done, with honors
03:22 angy just a few corrections to add and I'll be free!
03:22 angy now I just have to find a job :(
03:23 astro73|derrial that's always hard
03:24 angy I have to decide if I'm going to try finding something close to GR or in France
03:24 astro73|derrial try chicago. It's got better prospects than michigan
03:25 angy I just have to find someone that wants a mechanical engineer
03:25 angy even though I'm not very mechanical
03:25 astro73|derrial ....
03:26 ajprog_laptop just mechanical or do you want bio-mechanical?
03:26 angy I'd prefer bio-medical/mechanical
03:26 Toastdude Bye all
03:27 angy but mechanical will do fine as well, depending on the offer for sure
03:27 * angy hugs Toastdude
03:27 angy Bye Toasty
03:27 * Toastdude hugs angy
03:30 astro73|derrial oh, bio-med? GR has medical mile now, but idk how much bio-med stuff is going on over there
03:31 tonsofpcs for bio-med/mechanical, you probably want an osteonics company like Stryker/Howmedica
03:31 tonsofpcs err, orthopedic
03:31 * tonsofpcs is tired
03:32 astro73|derrial although, idk how much weight foreign schools will have in job placements
03:32 angy that's the field I was
03:34 angy it's not really foreign, it's canadian
03:35 astro73|derrial oh, you said france
03:35 angy I got another degree
03:35 angy but it's useless in north america
03:35 astro73|derrial no one believes it's a degree?
03:35 angy no one understand the french system
03:36 astro73|derrial that bad?
03:36 angy that complex
03:36 astro73|derrial yeesh
03:36 angy I'm from one of the top engineering school in France
03:36 angy but no one know Arts et Métiers Paristech here
03:36 angy or ENSAM (the old name)
03:37 astro73|derrial i figured
03:37 astro73|derrial as if it was another continent
03:37 tonsofpcs angy: idk about there but this is the US, we have too many univeersities here for everyone to know them all, forget foreign schools
03:37 angy I don't really think that Ecole Polytechnique of Montréal is know in the US as well
03:37 tonsofpcs I know of both of those... mind you, I know people who have been to each....
03:38 astro73|derrial i think your best bet would have been to find a school that has a partnership (study abroad?) with ENSAM
03:38 angy polytechnique of montreal does :)
03:38 astro73|derrial of course
03:39 astro73|derrial at least it has a possibilty of having the same accredidation programs as US schools
03:39 astro73|derrial which is really what makes a degree worth something
03:40 astro73|derrial (sorta)
03:40 angy in theory, the canadian degree is north american wise
03:40 astro73|derrial in theory
03:42 tonsofpcs in practice, anyone who actually cares that much about a degree is either (a) looking for something very specific or (b) going to do the research.
03:43 angy just the degree means nothing, I have  degree in mechanical engineering and I did medical images analysis
03:52 astro73|derrial .tfw ada, mi
03:52 BotSteve 52°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Ada, MI!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
03:52 astro73|derrial 'I know you like rain, but this whole drizzling-over-artprize thing needs to stop.'
03:54 angy punch the weather in the eye
03:55 * astro73|derrial looks for a cloud with an eye
03:55 astro73|derrial hard in the dark
03:55 angy that's the downside of it
03:57 angy I got a whole new iPod!
03:57 astro73|derrial i got a whole old iphone!
03:58 astro73|derrial but it's really bricked; not sure why
03:58 angy I want a WP7.5 phone!
03:58 astro73|derrial android for me
03:58 astro73|derrial if i can ever afford the data
03:59 angy move to france :)
03:59 astro73|derrial and before you go on again about my google fanboyism, look at the alternative smartphones
03:59 angy naah, I know that
03:59 angy it's either apple or google
03:59 astro73|derrial why does it matter? the way the US is going, it's going to take down the rest of the world
04:00 Sgt_Lemming 53% of smarthphones activated in the last 3 months, were Android phones according to Neilsen
04:00 * angy starts building his boat for waterworld
04:00 astro73|derrial atlantis? sounds like a good plan
04:01 angy you'll have to let your android phone at the door though
04:02 astro73|derrial i don't have one, just some crappy feature phone
04:02 angy you can't beat me on the crappy phone plan
04:02 angy mine is not even usable in north america
04:02 angy and I don't know my number as well
04:02 astro73|derrial mine is getting cracks in the plastic, after 3yrs, but it still works in the US
04:04 angy I tend to use voip a lot
04:06 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xitMWUfeLk&amp;feature=related <--- you may wish to turn your speakers down once they get it outside....
04:07 Sgt_Lemming .g 50Kw in HP
04:07 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: http://calculator-converter.com/converter_kilowatt_to_metric_horsepower_kw_to_hp_calculator.php
04:07 Sgt_Lemming bah
04:07 Sgt_Lemming .convert 50Kw in HP
04:07 angy 70?
04:07 angy something like that
04:07 Sgt_Lemming .75Kw per horsepower
04:08 angy 768
04:08 Sgt_Lemming close enough
04:08 angy be precise!
04:08 angy 65
04:08 angy hp that is
04:08 wannabe1987 .
04:08 Sgt_Lemming I said approx 60, so not far off
04:08 astro73|derrial kw and hp are not the same dimension
04:09 Sgt_Lemming astro73|derrial, when talking about power delivery from a motor, they are
04:09 astro73|derrial units are stupid sometimes
04:09 ajprog_laptop angy: why would you want a phone running windows?
04:09 Sgt_Lemming and for an electric motor, input ~= output
04:09 angy ajprog_laptop: because I can't have something with google, and don't want yet another apple product
04:10 angy brit electric hp is 746W
04:10 angy you were closer than me for electric!
04:11 astro73|derrial what about that open source phone?
04:11 astro73|derrial openmoko?
04:11 angy let me check that
04:12 Sgt_Lemming hmmm, thinking about getting a pair of these motors
04:12 Sgt_Lemming http://secure.oatleyelectronics.com//product_info.php?cPath=53&amp;products_id=833&amp;osCsid=6eaa74dbb4f0d3f800ab37df627e843d
04:12 angy may be hard to get hands on one
04:12 Sgt_Lemming and then running them off a 6S1P li-ion pack
04:13 angy I could get an android phone and re-compile to eject all google things, but it will be too painful
04:13 Sgt_Lemming so 22.2v nominal
04:13 astro73|derrial although there's also apparently a tuxphone?
04:13 Sgt_Lemming could be interesting
04:14 angy NTT DoCoMo released something like mobilinux
04:14 angy but I think I'm not able to read japanese :)
04:14 astro73|derrial Sgt_Lemming: that looks an awful lot like a CIM motor...
04:14 Sgt_Lemming it probably is
04:14 wannabe1987 astro73|derrial swing was REALLY warm inside the masonic....
04:14 Sgt_Lemming I really wanted some of the cim gearboxes
04:15 Sgt_Lemming but the company I ordered them from never shipped em to me
04:15 astro73|derrial wannabe1987: that often happens
04:15 astro73|derrial Sgt_Lemming: which gearbox? All I get is FIRST-related gear
04:16 wannabe1987 i know....but it was WETTING outside, so no outside swing.  but steve wants to do glowwy bits swing outside sometime....so it'll happen again.
04:16 Sgt_Lemming astro73|derrial, CIM have some really nice 4.5:1 plantaries
04:16 angy I usually got my gearboxes from jegs
04:16 Sgt_Lemming freaking hard to get your hands on em though
04:16 angy but I think there are really not the same ones :p
04:16 speedrunnerg55 sgt lemming help
04:16 angy hey! Spdrunnr!
04:16 wannabe1987 speedrunnerg55!
04:16 Sgt_Lemming mm speedrunnerg55?
04:17 speedrunnerg55 my minecraft stoped working
04:17 Sgt_Lemming ...?
04:17 speedrunnerg55 it just crashes
04:17 speedrunnerg55 it only shows a black program box then. a crash report
04:18 speedrunnerg55 leaving me in a state of wtf
04:18 speedrunnerg55 lol
04:18 astro73|derrial Sgt_Lemming: I didn't know CIM made anything other than heavy black motors. And they appear to be invisible to the web...
04:18 * Sgt_Lemming nods
04:18 speedrunnerg55 hi angy and wannabe1987
04:18 wannabe1987 :D
04:18 wannabe1987 hi angy
04:19 astro73|derrial this is what I get for being a child of FIRST
04:19 speedrunnerg55 wannabe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1PVP26ZTsw&amp;NR=1
04:19 wannabe1987 what is this?
04:20 astro73|derrial (although if you have motor compatible with the FIRST CIM, I bet you can get your hands on gearboxes for them)
04:20 angy how're ya spd?
04:20 angy hi wannabe1987
04:20 speedrunnerg55 Hatsune Miku
04:20 wannabe1987 bless you
04:20 speedrunnerg55 its japonese
04:20 speedrunnerg55 (i think)
04:20 astro73|derrial very
04:20 angy vocaloid?
04:21 Sgt_Lemming astro73|derrial, I can make the motors compatible myself
04:21 Sgt_Lemming have a mill, a lathe and a dividing head for the mill
04:21 Sgt_Lemming so making machine parts is easy
04:21 speedrunnerg55 angy, not wwell
04:21 speedrunnerg55 i cant play minecraft
04:21 angy that's very bad
04:22 speedrunnerg55 Sgt_Lemming: can you help?
04:22 astro73|derrial Sgt_Lemming: AndyMark and BaneBots would probably be easier to obtain then, if they have what you want
04:22 wannabe1987 what why
04:22 angy *mind note, never try minecraft*
04:22 Sgt_Lemming speedrunnerg55, what's happening?
04:22 astro73|derrial angy: probably a good call.
04:22 speedrunnerg55 i get a crash report
04:22 Sgt_Lemming nfi dude
04:22 Sgt_Lemming update java?
04:22 angy if I try, I think I'll end end killing random people in the street. it sounds /that/ frustrating
04:23 astro73|derrial wannabe1987: hatsune miku is one of the holographic vocaloid singers
04:23 astro73|derrial except she might be the only one to get a hologram, not sure
04:23 angy I think it/she is
04:24 astro73|derrial it's hard to fine anything concrete about the other vocaloids. at least in english
04:25 astro73|derrial op! nope she isn't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFHWW8PuoDw&amp;feature=related
04:25 angy good to know
04:26 astro73|derrial .... except they sound exactly the same.
04:26 astro73|derrial start the video, and tab away. Can you tell?
04:27 speedrunnerg55 it says i hae the latest java
04:27 astro73|derrial also, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmSoLpzhqUk&amp;feature=related
04:27 speedrunnerg55 that sounds funny
04:27 speedrunnerg55 i have the latest coffie
04:28 angy it's exactly the same
04:28 speedrunnerg55 still isnt working
04:28 angy punch java in the eye?
04:28 astro73|derrial no you don't. They started making a VM called espresso. The java platform is obsolete.
04:28 angy in fact even when they look like the 2 are singing together, there is only one
04:29 angy beware of the cheap imitation nespresso
04:29 astro73|derrial angy: at least Luka sounds different?
04:30 angy I'm not very familiar with vocalic things
04:30 astro73|derrial me neither. I'm just browsing youtube.
04:30 angy Rin and Len sounds very different
04:30 astro73|derrial yeah, i saw that
04:31 astro73|derrial a big epic vocal synth wouldn't be much good if it could only produce one voice
04:31 angy it's kind of disturbing because they all are very very similar, spectrally speaking
04:32 astro73|derrial tbf, i think they're all female, or young boys
04:32 angy for japanese, that's the same
04:32 astro73|derrial for biology, that's the same
04:32 angy as well
04:32 astro73|derrial or you mean they equate females and young boys?
04:34 angy when they dub an anime, usually, it's a female that do young boy voice
04:34 angy or boy voice at all
04:34 astro73|derrial i bet it's cheaper than getting an actual young boy, too
04:35 angy and your young boy may mature between the 10,000 episodes
04:35 wannabe1987 lol
04:36 angy it's like fruit, it's only good when mature!
04:36 * NeWtoz wants to make a joke regarding that female are better at yelling anyways, but he will resist and then go back to work
04:37 wannabe1987 ...
04:37 NeWtoz wut?
04:37 NeWtoz oh right, work
04:37 NeWtoz bbl
04:37 angy in fact, on crypton website, they all sound very different
04:37 angy http://www.crypton.co.jp/mp/pages/prod/vocaloid/cv02.jsp
04:38 angy and they use jsp : japanese server protocol
04:38 angy (Ok, that was a bad pun)
04:40 Sgt_Lemming Java Shit Page
04:40 angy so java shit pages when you ask it? nice to know
04:40 astro73|derrial that's why miku and what's her face sound the same. THey're only marketting 3 different voices for their system so far
04:40 * angy release JavaPoo
04:41 angy that's it, they modify the timbre, but it stay very similar
04:43 * Hackbat is weird
04:43 * angy likes weird
04:43 angy Are you maturated Hackbat? :p
04:44 * Hackbat is washing clothes at 12:43 while eating a baked potato
04:44 angy 12:43, morning or afternoon?
04:45 Hackbat now
04:45 Hackbat so morning
04:45 angy that's not that weird
04:45 Sgt_Lemming ah, perthican
04:45 astro73|derrial Hackbat: http://xkcd.com/15/ ?
04:46 Hackbat http://infothread.org/info/
04:46 Hackbat 4chan is useful at some points
04:47 wannabe1987 what,,,,,,,,,,,,,
04:47 Hackbat pictures with information :3
04:47 Hackbat now pictures can say 1001 words
04:48 angy a an and movie thing borked
04:48 angy I can say 1001 as well :p
04:50 Sgt_Lemming 9
04:50 Hackbat 5
04:50 wannabe1987 100011110001 ?
04:51 angy beware I punch right in the eyes currently!
04:51 wannabe1987 what?  r u drunk?
04:51 Sgt_Lemming 2289
04:51 angy nope
04:51 wannabe1987 o.O
04:51 Sgt_Lemming 101010 <--- easy
04:52 wannabe1987 no binary is not easy
04:52 Sgt_Lemming it's 42
04:52 angy The Answer!
04:52 wannabe1987 to everything!
04:52 Sgt_Lemming because 10th October 2010 or 101010 was answer day
04:53 angy it was my dad birthday
04:53 angy at least, one of them
04:53 wannabe1987 ...
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04:53 Sgt_Lemming 1001011100111001000110010 <--- my DOB
04:53 angy wb Spd
04:54 * wannabe1987 pokes speedrunnerg55_
04:54 angy I don't do math past 3pm
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04:55 angy double Spdrunnr
04:55 * wannabe1987 pokes speedrunnerg55_
04:55 * wannabe1987 pokes speedrunnerg55
04:55 angy wannabe1987: do you poke him in the eye?
04:56 wannabe1987 no?
04:56 wannabe1987 i poked him on facebook
04:56 wannabe1987 .ud awkward
04:56 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=awkward
04:56 Sgt_Lemming 405432300 <--- my DOB in another format
04:57 Sgt_Lemming a cookie to the first person who can decode it
04:57 wannabe1987 my computer is slow :(
04:57 Hackbat seems fine to me
04:57 angy I don't even try, too early in the morning
04:57 wannabe1987 lol poor angy
04:58 Hackbat 40 day of the 54th year of 32300 year of our lord
04:58 Sgt_Lemming rofl
04:58 Sgt_Lemming not quite
04:58 Hackbat you are a spaceman
04:58 wannabe1987 lol
04:58 angy can we cook him? I never tasted alien meat
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04:59 speedrunnerG55_ IM ALIVEEEEE
04:59 Sgt_Lemming protip, it's a standardized form of storing dates/times for computers
04:59 Hackbat ohohohho
04:59 * speedrunnerG55_ hugs wannabe1987
04:59 Hackbat is it the time from that like day in the 70's?
04:59 Sgt_Lemming gah, someone op me so I can kick him and go "no you're not"
04:59 angy Hackbat: epoch
04:59 Sgt_Lemming nooo
05:00 speedrunnerg55 :)
05:00 wannabe1987 Sgt_Lemming i give up
05:00 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, it's UNIX time
05:00 Sgt_Lemming look it up
05:01 wannabe1987 i tried
05:01 wannabe1987 google doesn't like that query
05:01 Sgt_Lemming http://www.onlineconversion.com/unix_time.htm
05:01 angy 16/06/89
05:01 angy 82
05:01 * speedrunnerg55 pokes wannabwe
05:01 speedrunnerg55 wannabe8
05:01 angy 16/06/82
05:01 wannabe1987 angy thats not american
05:01 Hackbat Many Unix-like operating systems which keep time as seconds elapsed from the epoch date of January 1, 1970, and allot timekeeping enough storage to store numbers as large as 2 147 483 647 will experience an overflow problem on January 19, 2038 if not fixed beforehand
05:01 angy he's stralian
05:01 Hackbat :D
05:02 wannabe1987 nov 16, 1982
05:02 * speedrunnerg55 pokes angy
05:02 wannabe1987 at 12 05 am
05:02 wannabe1987 :P
05:02 wannabe1987 GMT
05:02 * angy jerks and poke speedrunnerg55 in the eye
05:02 wannabe1987 happy now?!
05:02 wannabe1987 :P
05:03 angy with or without the slip second your epoch Sgt_Lemming ?
05:03 wannabe1987 what?!
05:03 Sgt_Lemming dunno, just worked it out using the site I linked
05:03 * wannabe1987 has glowwy things in her hands
05:04 Sgt_Lemming wannabe got the time right, not the date
05:04 Sgt_Lemming and I didn't adjust for GMT
05:04 wannabe1987 i shoved it in the link you gave!
05:04 wannabe1987 and thats what it told me!
05:05 Sgt_Lemming I just did it then wannabe1987, and got the right date back
05:06 wannabe1987 do you want to see my screen print?
05:06 Sgt_Lemming sure
05:07 Sgt_Lemming 405353100 <--- corrected for GMT
05:07 wannabe1987 nov 5?
05:07 Sgt_Lemming GMT+12 to get correct local date timer
05:10 angy Sgt_Lemming: my DOB 40000000203ba39200000000tor
05:11 angy forget the trailing tor here: 40000000203ba39200000000
05:11 angy it's quite easy to decrypt the format
05:11 Sgt_Lemming ascii hexadecimal?
05:12 angy nope
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05:13 speedrunnerg55 hello?
05:13 angy olleh
05:13 wannabe1987 .
05:13 speedrunnerg55 dfsfds
05:14 wannabe1987 wtdf
05:14 wannabe1987 wtf*
05:14 angy mushkin!
05:14 angy Sgt_Lemming: want an indice?
05:14 wannabe1987 indice?
05:15 angy clue
05:15 Sgt_Lemming a hexadecimal string that long could be anything angy
05:15 angy not really
05:15 angy that particular long is only one thing
05:15 Sgt_Lemming yes really
05:15 angy I'll help you: @
05:15 Sgt_Lemming considering the string is longer than the data it contains
05:15 Hackbat lol
05:15 Hackbat wow...
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05:16 Sgt_Lemming 1206F5EE04F4 <--- mine in hexdec in UTF
05:16 angy that one is not hexadecimal
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05:16 Sgt_Lemming err, how is it not hex?
05:16 Hackbat I just found out I was born the year ISOC was founded
05:17 angy the encoding rely on an hex stream
05:17 speed-3DS hellpp im having network issues
05:17 Sgt_Lemming it's the numbers in hexadecimal format angy
05:18 Sgt_Lemming pure hexadecimal, nothing else
05:18 speed-3DS i cant  connect to the internet with my computer
05:18 angy what I paste is a date
05:18 wannabe1987 speed-3DS why?
05:18 Sgt_Lemming no encoding, no obfuscation, decimal converted to hexadecimal
05:18 wannabe1987 then who is speedrunnerg55?
05:18 angy what I pasted is definitely not what you say
05:19 Sgt_Lemming pasting a date and not giving the format is pointless angy
05:19 angy you just did it :)
05:19 speed-3DS i dont know. ill get a connection and it will last like a minute then drop out
05:19 wannabe1987 that sucks
05:19 Sgt_Lemming speed-3DS, wireless or wired?
05:19 angy it's one of the most precise encoding, but it's not really used
05:20 Sgt_Lemming oh gee, well that's f'ing pointless then
05:20 speed-3DS wireless. but so is my 3ds
05:20 angy google use it for log gin for instance
05:20 angy so it's widely deployed
05:20 speed-3DS class n wifi
05:20 Sgt_Lemming wow, way to contradict yourself angy
05:21 angy google is rare on the internet
05:21 Sgt_Lemming in two lines you said it wasn't really used, then said it was widely deployed
05:21 angy there are lots and lots of other hosts...
05:21 Sgt_Lemming pick one ffs
05:21 angy widely deployed, rarely used
05:21 angy it's not exclusive
05:22 Hackbat I LOVE DENMARK'S SOCKETS
05:22 Hackbat http://infothread.org/info/Electronics%20and%20Computers/Power%20Socket%20Types.jpg
05:22 speed-3DS lol sgnt lemming
05:22 speed-3DS ?
05:22 speed-3DS can someone help me?*
05:23 Sgt_Lemming speed-3DS, tried using a hardwired connection?
05:23 angy it's like glonass, it's widely deployed, and rarely used
05:23 speed-3DS i cant atm
05:23 Sgt_Lemming tis the first thing I would be using
05:23 angy ok, was widely deployed
05:24 Sgt_Lemming speed-3DS, is the 3DS on the same network?
05:24 Sgt_Lemming and laptop or PC?
05:24 speed-3DS yes
05:24 speed-3DS pc with pci wireless card
05:25 Sgt_Lemming does the card appear ok in device manager?
05:25 angy what did you chance between the moment it was working and now?
05:25 dr_jkl hey, is anyone familiar with remapping keys in linux?
05:26 speed-3DS yes, no yellow or red
05:26 angy I did not remember the soft I used to do it
05:26 Sgt_Lemming speed-3DS, how strong is the wireless signal?
05:26 speed-3DS or blue for that matter
05:27 angy dr_jkl: you have xmodmap?
05:27 angy and uses a X server
05:27 wannabe1987 spiders, pumpkins and dinosaurs
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05:28 dr_jkl angy: i'm running xubuntu on this particular system
05:28 angy you should be able to use xmodmap then
05:28 Sgt_Lemming speed-3DS, how strong is the wireless signal?
05:28 speed-3DS_ excelent
05:29 wannabe1987 dr_jkl did you get my tell about member xela who can't post in the forums?
05:29 dr_jkl yes wannabe1987
05:29 dr_jkl i'm looking at it :D
05:29 wannabe1987 kk
05:29 angy the syntax is quite easy for the ~/.Xmodmap
05:29 angy like ``keycode  9 = Escape''
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05:30 speedrunnerG55 hi
05:30 angy boo!
05:30 * speedrunnerG55 pokes angy
05:30 * angy pokes speedrunnerG55 router
05:30 speedrunnerG55 Sgt_Lemming: i dont know how long this will last
05:31 speedrunnerG55 my router?
05:31 speedrunnerG55 wow]
05:31 angy the thing that is supposed to wirelessly connect you to the internet
05:31 speedrunnerG55 i dont knoow what to do
05:31 speed-3DS_ oh im still here
05:32 angy warranty and RMA?
05:32 speedrunnerG55 rma?
05:32 angy you're dual personality mate
05:32 Sgt_Lemming speed-3DS_, does it drop out regardless of the amount of traffic?
05:32 * speed-3DS_ punches speedrunnerG55
05:33 angy Yay! Personality fight
05:33 * angy grabs pop-corn
05:33 speed-3DS_ i think i just punched it off  the internet
05:34 angy bad speed
05:34 speed-3DS_ i dont know sft lemmiing
05:35 dr_jkl yay
05:35 angy a pop-corn speed-3DS_?
05:35 Sgt_Lemming speed-3DS_, close all network related programs on it, connect it, see if it drops out
05:35 dr_jkl my capslock key now works as a controlkey
05:35 Sgt_Lemming nice
05:35 angy :)
05:36 angy dr_jkl: you should mess up the entire mapping, then give that to someone else
05:36 dr_jkl no
05:36 dr_jkl lol
05:37 speed-3DS_ sgtlemming im always connected to my router. i  havvinng troubble with the internet
05:37 dr_jkl oh. goddammit
05:37 dr_jkl it swapped my control key and capslock
05:37 dr_jkl that's not what i want
05:37 Sgt_Lemming speed-3DS, what sort of connection?
05:38 Sgt_Lemming DSL?
05:38 speed-3DS_ but then here i am talkng . makes no sence
05:38 angy punch the internet in the eye
05:38 speed-3DS_ cabble modem
05:38 Sgt_Lemming hang on, so this one on the same router works all the time, but the computer doesn't?
05:38 Sgt_Lemming or is the 3DS dropping as well?
05:39 speed-3DS_ cprossu found a discrepency in the moodems sinal quality earlyyer last week or so
05:39 Sgt_Lemming then you need to ring your ISP
05:40 speed-3DS_ this works all the time
05:40 Sgt_Lemming if the 3DS works, and the PC doesn't, where do you think the issue is?
05:40 speed-3DS_ or at least no were near as bad as my pc
05:40 angy dr_jkl: that should be hell of fun when trying to type :)
05:41 speed-3DS_ the router ...but....
05:41 Sgt_Lemming no, if the 3DS works, but the PC doesn't, I'd be looking at the PC
05:42 angy same wifi for pc and 3DS?
05:42 * dr_jkl fix
05:42 speed-3DS_ what should i check?
05:42 angy the 2 are ``n''?
05:42 Sgt_Lemming boot the PC off a live cd?
05:43 angy punch the pc in the graphic card? (closest thing to an eye)
05:43 dr_jkl angy: in /etc/default/keyboard change XKBOPTIONS to "ctrl:nocaps" to get three control keys. swapcaps if you want to swap lctrl and capslock
05:43 angy nice, I'm going to keep that somewhere
05:43 speed-3DS_ sgt lemming i have a linux partition can i use that?
05:44 Sgt_Lemming for sure
05:44 Sgt_Lemming just another operating system, to rule out a software issue
05:44 angy I like having a lot of control keys :p
05:45 Sgt_Lemming hardwired connection is always a good one to rule out wireless issues
05:46 angy I agree on that
05:46 angy I have a router here that lost the connexion from time to time
05:47 angy it behave just like what you're experiencing now
05:47 dr_jkl lol
05:47 dr_jkl the last time i had a router do that, it was going t/u and needed to be replaced
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05:47 speedrunnerrG55 hi Sgt_Lemming
05:47 angy I replaced it as well
05:47 speedrunnerrG55 its working here so far
05:47 angy did not even try to check it
05:48 speed-linux lets see how long this lasts...
05:48 angy but I had a very hard time finding a router that does DSL multiple VC
05:49 * wannabe1987 *gets popcorn and waits for speed to ping*
05:49 * speed-linux gets out his poker
05:49 * speed-linux pokes wannabe
05:50 wannabe1987 o.O
05:50 * wannabe1987 pokes you back
05:50 dr_jkl hey
05:50 dr_jkl put your poker back in your pants
05:50 wannabe1987 o.O
05:50 dr_jkl nobody wants to see that
05:50 wannabe1987 i was thinking fireplace poker, but ok
05:50 speed-linux dr_jkl: you are nasty
05:50 wannabe1987 dr_jkl is in da gutter
05:51 dr_jkl speed-linux: in a good way?
05:51 * angy loves dr_jkl
05:51 speed-linux no dr_jkl your just nasty
05:51 speed-linux how is there a good way cor that?
05:52 Sgt_Lemming speed-linux, looks like a software problem then.
05:52 speed-linux wannabe i was thinking a rubber hand with its index finger pointed outwards on a wodden dow
05:52 dr_jkl there's always a good way to be nasty
05:52 wannabe1987 ahhhh
05:52 dr_jkl lots of geeks are kinky etc
05:53 speed-linux ...
05:53 speed-linux im not
05:53 Sgt_Lemming speed-linux, get a finger splint, splint your middle finger, then you can be as rude as you want without them being able to say anything back
05:53 wannabe1987 i know you're not speed-linux
05:53 * angy hugs speed-linux
05:54 * speed-linux throws angy off a cliff
05:54 dr_jkl grrr
05:54 angy ho yes! Do it again, DO IT!
05:54 dr_jkl i think my 9 key is going t/u
05:54 speed-linux do it?
05:54 angy Yes!
05:54 speed-linux what it?
05:54 dr_jkl might be time to price new keyboard for thsi laptop
05:55 angy dr_jkl: punch it in the ``e''
05:55 speed-linux e?
05:55 angy the e key
05:55 speed-linux what?
05:55 angy dr_jkl's new keyboard
05:56 * speed-3DS_ hugs speed-linux
05:56 wannabe1987 o.O
05:56 * speed-linux hugs speed-3DS_
05:56 angy that is nasty as well
05:56 wannabe1987 agreed
05:56 speed-linux angy get you mind out of the gutter
05:57 angy that may not be a good idea spd
05:57 speed-linux and out of the bar wile your at it too
05:57 speed-linux lol
05:57 angy I did not drink your booze, promised!
05:57 speed-linux ....meh that wasnt funny. sorry
05:58 speed-linux Sgt_Lemming: what should i doooo
05:58 angy punch windows in the start menu
05:58 speed-linux lawl
05:59 * wannabe1987 thinks cj fell asleep........
05:59 wannabe1987 he's sitting behind me
05:59 angy punch him?
05:59 speed-linux Sgt_Lemming: could it be a virus?
05:59 wannabe1987 angy noes!
05:59 wannabe1987 i likes him
05:59 speed-linux who is cj?
05:59 wannabe1987 cj is new boy
05:59 angy I punch the people I like
06:00 speed-linux err?
06:00 * angy punches speed-linux in the eye
06:00 wannabe1987 angy i'll nevr let you like m?
06:00 wannabe1987 me*?
06:00 angy just protect the eyes
06:00 speed-linux wannabe did you get that link before?
06:00 wannabe1987 what link?
06:00 speed-linux of the japonese video
06:00 wannabe1987 the video?
06:00 wannabe1987 noes no japs!
06:01 wannabe1987 i got it, i didn't watdch it
06:01 speed-linux ...
06:01 wannabe1987 i was busy
06:01 speed-linux :(
06:01 Sgt_Lemming speed-linux, looks liek time for a reinstall of winblows
06:01 speed-linux wtf
06:01 wannabe1987 lol
06:01 speed-linux ......WTF
06:01 wannabe1987 sorry speed :(
06:01 * speed-linux SCREWS WINDOWS
06:01 angy that's the right spriti
06:02 Sgt_Lemming well that, or try uninstalling/reinstalling drivers at least!
06:02 speed-linux DUDE, I INSTALLED THIS LIKE 3 MONTHS AGO
06:02 speed-linux WHEN I BUILT THIS PC
06:02 * angy looks after speed-linux punched eye
06:02 Sgt_Lemming that's about how often I reinstall windows speed-linux :-P
06:02 speed-linux .....
06:02 Sgt_Lemming my entire system is setup around that fact
06:03 speed-linux this is so retarted. i now hate windows again
06:03 speed-linux i gave it another chance
06:03 speed-linux when i built this pc
06:03 speed-linux now it lost it
06:03 wannabe1987 don't screw windows, you'll get glass in places you don't want glass!
06:03 Sgt_Lemming rofl
06:03 speed-linux LOLOL
06:03 wannabe1987 :)
06:03 * wannabe1987 is good for a laugh sometimes
06:03 Sgt_Lemming speed-linux, did you install any new software recently?
06:04 speed-linux ughhh
06:04 speed-linux yes?
06:04 Sgt_Lemming what software?
06:04 speed-linux sprite craft... minecraft.
06:04 speed-linux avg had an update
06:04 speed-linux ughhhh
06:04 Sgt_Lemming stuff that has effects on the system speed-linux :-P
06:05 angy avg is good for breaking windows
06:05 speed-linux like what
06:05 speed-linux like anny os's?
06:05 Sgt_Lemming no, an OS is not going to break windows
06:05 speed-linux ....
06:06 * speed-linux screws windows untill aero breks apart and leaves glass in his pants
06:07 speed-linux ouch
06:07 wannabe1987 o.O
06:07 angy always your pants...
06:07 wannabe1987 yes
06:07 wannabe1987 he likes his pants
06:07 wannabe1987 full of SHARP THINGS
06:07 speed-linux ye i do actually
06:08 speed-linux i like a particaluar pair with lots of pockets
06:08 Sgt_Lemming mmm, do love solugel
06:08 Sgt_Lemming so soothing
06:08 angy STOP! too much infos
06:08 Sgt_Lemming rough cuts from aluminium swarf sucj
06:08 Sgt_Lemming suck even
06:08 speed-linux ....
06:08 Sgt_Lemming right on the back of my knuckle
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06:11 angy 3 speed?!?
06:11 virtual-speed-XP i wanted to see if this would work
06:11 virtual-speed-XP it does
06:12 virtual-speed-XP vm ware running windows xp, in linux mint
06:12 angy too much spd, time to part this channel
06:12 virtual-speed-XP no angyyyyyyyy
06:12 angy good night!
06:12 wannabe1987 noes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06:12 wannabe1987 NOES!
06:12 wannabe1987 angy!!!!!
06:12 wannabe1987 :'(
06:12 * virtual-speed-XP cries
06:12 angy see ya in some hours today
06:13 wannabe1987 bye
06:13 virtual-speed-XP :(
06:13 virtual-speed-XP bye
06:13 virtual-speed-XP this channel now has three speeds
06:13 Seroster Most useless lesson all week today
06:13 virtual-speed-XP xD
06:13 Seroster Computer class.
06:14 wannabe1987 virtual-speed-XP - bad PUN
06:14 Seroster "Hey, this is the TAB button!"
06:14 wannabe1987 o.O
06:14 virtual-speed-XP lol wannabe
06:14 Seroster "O look, if you make three dots in a row they shrink together"
06:14 virtual-speed-XP wtf Seroster
06:14 Seroster "Let's made a page header! YAY!"
06:14 Seroster For ONE HUNDRED AND EIGHTY MINUTES
06:14 Seroster FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
06:15 virtual-speed-XP i feel sorry for you
06:15 NeWtoz I always just do something else during those moments
06:15 NeWtoz I tend to sit in the back in any computer class
06:16 virtual-speed-XP my computer classes were hardcore
06:16 virtual-speed-XP lol
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06:17 Sasha-iPhone Hello
06:17 Sasha-iPhone .seen Cprossu
06:17 BotSteve Sasha-iPhone: I last saw cprossu 4.79 hours ago at 2011-09-28 01:30:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:17:58 UTC
06:18 * virtual-speed-XP hears a huge popping noise in a emty room next to him
06:18 virtual-speed-XP t/me jumps out of his seat and goes BotSteve WTF
06:18 virtual-speed-XP BotSteve: ?
06:18 Sgt_Lemming ...?
06:19 virtual-speed-XP LET ME START OVER
06:19 wannabe1987 ?
06:19 * virtual-speed-XP hears a huge popping noise in a empty room next to him
06:19 * virtual-speed-XP jumps out of his seat and goes WTF
06:19 Sgt_Lemming how is BotSteve related to a huge popping noise?
06:19 wannabe1987 lol
06:19 wannabe1987 idk
06:19 virtual-speed-XP IT WASNT
06:19 virtual-speed-XP IDK HOW THAT GOT THERE
06:20 Sgt_Lemming rofl
06:21 virtual-speed-XP it sounded like a concaved bottle building up pressure till it opoed out right
06:21 virtual-speed-XP thats all i can think of
06:21 Seroster NeWtoz, We got high tech computer classroom
06:22 Seroster Teacher got two work screens, and a third one where the contents of all the other screens in the room are shown
06:22 Seroster Either side by side or cycling
06:22 virtual-speed-XP ok?
06:22 virtual-speed-XP what is that called?
06:22 Seroster So he seesinstantly when you dont do what you are supposed to
06:23 virtual-speed-XP syncaneyes?
06:23 Seroster No fucking idea
06:26 dr_jkl lol
06:28 virtual-speed-XP wannabe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_OJPrQC1eg&amp;feature=related
06:28 wannabe1987 i dont trust you..............
06:28 virtual-speed-XP D: why wannabe?
06:28 virtual-speed-XP its a japonese video
06:28 wannabe1987 you give me the japs!
06:29 wannabe1987 exactly!
06:29 virtual-speed-XP yes, i do :3
06:29 virtual-speed-XP just watch it, :/
06:29 wannabe1987 no
06:29 wannabe1987 i dont want sound.
06:29 virtual-speed-XP why not? ;
06:29 virtual-speed-XP :'(
06:29 wannabe1987 can i watch it w/o sound?
06:30 virtual-speed-XP ugh... sure
06:30 virtual-speed-XP theres anime in it
06:30 wannabe1987 because its 2:30 am
06:30 wannabe1987 now i def won't watch it
06:30 wannabe1987 ugh anime
06:30 virtual-speed-XP D:
06:30 * virtual-speed-XP cries
06:31 wannabe1987 ..........
06:31 wannabe1987 not everyone likes anime tho
06:31 wannabe1987 and how are you on fb chat?  theres no green dot!
06:34 wannabe1987 you
06:35 speed-linux ...
06:35 virtual-speed-XP ...
06:35 wannabe1987 speed-linux meet virtual-speed-XP
06:35 virtual-speed-XP hi speed-linux
06:35 virtual-speed-XP HI virtual-speed-XP
06:36 wannabe1987 .
06:36 virtual-speed-XP did you watch the video?
06:36 virtual-speed-XP i guess not
06:36 virtual-speed-XP ok ill stop bethering
06:37 virtual-speed-XP with japones videos, at least
06:38 wannabe1987 japanese*
06:41 Seroster Fucking idiotic fucking computerdamnclass -,-
06:41 Seroster^Away I HAEIT IT!
06:41 Seroster^Away Anyhow. Gtg.
06:41 Seroster^Away Cya
06:42 wannabe1987 bye
06:44 virtual-speed-XP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1kqtYlUpk4&amp;feature=related
06:44 virtual-speed-XP wannabe^
06:44 wannabe1987 y
06:44 virtual-speed-XP watch it
06:44 wannabe1987 fuck rainbows
06:44 virtual-speed-XP tits not japonese
06:44 virtual-speed-XP LOL
06:44 wannabe1987 TITS
06:44 wannabe1987 you said tits
06:44 virtual-speed-XP i mean its not japonese
06:44 virtual-speed-XP sorry!
06:45 virtual-speed-XP did you watch it?
06:45 wannabe1987 no
06:46 * wannabe1987 needs to breathe damnit! stupid body
06:47 virtual-speed-XP wannabe?
06:47 wannabe1987 what?
06:47 virtual-speed-XP are you ok?
06:47 wannabe1987 my nose is plugged
06:47 virtual-speed-XP why is that?
06:47 wannabe1987 and i'm sick of mouth breathing
06:47 wannabe1987 i is sick
06:47 wannabe1987 wannabe has a sick :(
06:47 virtual-speed-XP aww'
06:47 virtual-speed-XP a sick?
06:47 wannabe1987 yes
06:47 wannabe1987 a cold
06:47 virtual-speed-XP what is it?
06:48 virtual-speed-XP ..oh
06:48 virtual-speed-XP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHEMAPRb4fk&amp;feature=related
06:48 virtual-speed-XP :3
06:49 wannabe1987 i think i hate you for this
06:49 wannabe1987 but the volume is off :D
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06:51 Sythen morning all
06:51 virtual-speed-XP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxsuR6hSIQE&amp;feature=related
06:51 virtual-speed-XP wannabe^
06:51 wannabe1987 hi Sythen!  save me from virtual-speed-XP
06:52 virtual-speed-XP wannabe, ive been on a my little poney minecraft sever for a wile
06:52 Sythen wassup wannabe1987?
06:52 virtual-speed-XP i cant heklp myself
06:52 wannabe1987 he's giving me silly videos
06:52 Sythen I will purge all bronies with fire!
06:52 virtual-speed-XP bronnies?
06:52 wannabe1987 :shrug:
06:53 Sythen your playing on a MLP server
06:53 Sythen why!?
06:53 virtual-speed-XP because i like the moderators,
06:53 Sythen thats a fair excuse actually
06:53 Sythen stop linkin silly videos tho
06:53 virtual-speed-XP ok
06:53 Sythen thank you
06:54 wannabe1987 :D  yay Sythen saved the day :D
06:54 Sythen time for tea
06:54 Sythen and nicotine
06:54 virtual-speed-XP one more
06:54 virtual-speed-XP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daoHIRmPyLM&amp;feature=related
06:54 virtual-speed-XP last one
06:54 wannabe1987 o.O
06:54 wannabe1987 tea!
06:55 Sythen virtual-speed-XP, come on, stop that, its annoying as hell to post random crap like that
06:55 wannabe1987 tats why BotSteve needs to tell us what the videos are............
06:56 Sythen i think it would be safe to assume that any video virtual-speed-XP posts in irc, is going to be MLP related
06:56 wannabe1987 today, possibly...
06:56 virtual-speed-XP i do post other things
06:56 virtual-speed-XP ....
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06:56 wannabe1987 i've exhausted the interwebs!
06:56 wannabe1987 oh noes
06:56 Sythen links to MLP fan fiction
06:56 wannabe1987 hi Xela
06:57 Sythen morning Xela
06:57 virtual-speed-XP http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1pchpDD5EU
06:57 Xela morning everyody :)
06:57 wannabe1987 speed!
06:57 virtual-speed-XP watch it
06:57 virtual-speed-XP i sawre its a lagit cool video
06:57 Sythen no thanks
06:57 wannabe1987 Xela i talked to dr_jkl and she recieved your inquiry and is attempting to fix it.  you can try respondint to threads if you wish.
06:57 wannabe1987 responding*  sorry, its 3am
06:57 wannabe1987 and i'm tired
06:58 virtual-speed-XP its a keyboard repurposed into a 8 bit synth
06:58 wannabe1987 yeah, no thanks
06:58 virtual-speed-XP oh :(
06:58 Sythen i fucking hate synth
06:58 * virtual-speed-XP runs away and cries
06:58 Sythen problem solved
06:58 wannabe1987 speed-linux - don't do that!
06:58 Xela That's so freaky. I quite literally *just* thought about that (8bit keyboard hack) under the shower
06:59 wannabe1987 lol
06:59 Sythen i need a faster caffine delivery system
06:59 NeWtoz hmm, makes we want a waterproof computer for the shower
06:59 * speed-linux pokes wannabe
06:59 wannabe1987 IV?
07:00 wannabe1987 it gives me notifications when poked
07:00 wannabe1987 idk why
07:00 wannabe1987 its stupid
07:00 Sythen some guy poped into the BSoD irc with that idea, we never heard from him again
07:00 wannabe1987 what, iv caffiene?
07:00 wannabe1987 what about pills?
07:00 * speed-linux shoots a dart filled with pure caffine at Sythen
07:00 Sythen shower pc
07:00 wannabe1987 ah
07:00 wannabe1987 lol
07:00 Xela lol
07:01 wannabe1987 you think he electrocuted himself?
07:01 Sythen hopefully
07:01 wannabe1987 just cover a iPad with plastic wrap?
07:01 NeWtoz Android tablet*
07:01 wannabe1987 and baggies
07:01 wannabe1987 right
07:01 wannabe1987 that too
07:01 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, that wouldn't work
07:01 wannabe1987 why?
07:01 Sgt_Lemming needs to be conductive connection between you and the iPad's screen
07:02 wannabe1987 stupid
07:02 wannabe1987 what about stylus?
07:02 Sgt_Lemming see previous comment
07:02 wannabe1987 use an old palm pilot!
07:02 speed-linux Sgt_Lemming: not conductive
07:02 speed-linux its capacitive
07:02 speed-linux it would work
07:02 Sgt_Lemming the connection between you and the screen MUST be conductive for it to work
07:02 speed-linux i can controll my phone through a credit card
07:02 Sgt_Lemming no, it wouldn't speed-linux
07:03 Xela Simply take a cheap non-capacitive touchscreen
07:03 Sgt_Lemming that's how capacitive screens work
07:03 Sgt_Lemming speed-linux, what phone?
07:03 speed-linux an ipphonr
07:03 speed-linux iphone
07:03 Sythen i still use a treo pro heheh
07:03 Sgt_Lemming Sythen: Newton > treo Pro :-P
07:04 Sythen i love my treo pro, its not let me down at all
07:04 Sythen and i got it cheap too
07:04 speed-linux so a baggie would work wannabe
07:04 speed-linux it just wouldnt look good
07:04 Sgt_Lemming guarantee it won't
07:04 speed-linux ....
07:04 speed-linux it would
07:05 speed-linux then how do screen protectors work?
07:05 Sgt_Lemming by using a conductive polymer
07:05 Sythen to put it simplely, if you put any plastic barrier between a finger and a capacitive touch screen, it will not work
07:05 speed-linux then how can i controll my phone through a few sheets of paper
07:05 Sythen resistive, yes, capacitive, no
07:05 speed-linux and a screen protector
07:06 Sythen the screen protector is designed to work with capacitive touch screens, thats why
07:06 speed-linux what about the paper
07:06 speed-linux or even the credit card
07:06 Sgt_Lemming Sythen, insulative plastic yes, conductive plastic no
07:06 Sythen correct Sgt_Lemming
07:07 Sgt_Lemming standard paper is not that great an insulator speed-linux
07:07 Sgt_Lemming plastic baggies being polyethylene are
07:08 speed-linux imah try that next time i get a hold of my phone
07:08 wannabe1987 wheres your phone?
07:08 speed-linux my mom has it
07:08 wannabe1987 why?
07:08 Sgt_Lemming I can happily show you being able to put HV arcs through a couple of sheets of paper, but being blocked by a plastic shopping bag
07:08 speed-linux she takes it from me.....
07:08 wannabe1987 did she buy it?
07:08 speed-linux ....
07:09 speed-linux Sgt_Lemming: the connection must be conductive untill it reaches a surface that cappable of becomming capacitive with the screen
07:09 Sythen takes it from you? what are you? 14?
07:09 Sgt_Lemming Sythen: yes
07:09 speed-linux then its just capacitive
07:10 Sgt_Lemming speed-linux, it doesn't have to be a perfect conductor
07:10 Sgt_Lemming but a good insulator will block it from working
07:10 speed-linux then why dosent anny metal stlus work?
07:10 Sgt_Lemming i.e. plastic wrapped around the entire phone
07:10 wannabe1987 speed-linux - how why i'm so confused as to why she takes your phone.  if you  bought it its yours and yeah
07:10 speed-linux it needs a flat surface agenst it
07:10 speed-linux thus capasitive
07:11 Sgt_Lemming speed-linux, it needs a certain area to be covered to register
07:11 Sgt_Lemming it doesn't have to be flat
07:11 speed-linux ....really
07:11 Sgt_Lemming take a look at all the iphone stylii on the market
07:11 speed-linux i thought it was acting as a ccapacitor
07:11 Xela standard freezer bag worked with my iPhone 3GS (which has a screen cover on it) right now. double the thickness already stopped working
07:11 Sgt_Lemming it registeres a change in capacitance speed-linux
07:12 speed-linux between....
07:12 speed-linux waht?
07:12 Sgt_Lemming the screen itself is an insulator, bringing another insulator against it will do nothing
07:12 * wannabe1987 is confuse and lost
07:12 Sgt_Lemming bringing something even slightly conductive will change the capacitance of the area under it
07:12 Sgt_Lemming and hence it registers it
07:13 Sgt_Lemming if you look at all the iPhail stylii on the market, they are either metal body with conductive foam tip, or plastic body with metal strips and a conductive foam tip
07:13 speed-linux ye
07:14 wannabe-zz night speed-linux, Sgt_Lemming, Sythen and anyone else up still
07:15 Sythen moo
07:15 Sgt_Lemming night wannabe-zz, sleep well
07:15 Sythen g'night
07:15 speed-linux its a cow!
07:15 wannabe-zz moo
07:15 speed-linux woof
07:15 wannabe-zz oink
07:15 speed-linux nyan
07:15 wannabe-zz cj goes quack
07:16 wannabe-zz and night
07:16 Xela Shower PC: Take an asus Eee laptop-thingy from ebay, buy a fitting touch-element (non capacitive), remove the subnotebook casing and mount it all together in something waterproof.  Only thing I'd be worried about would be charging: Ideally, it would be some kind of induction based system so the waterproofing wouldn't have to be punctured
07:17 speed-linux what about cooling?
07:17 * speed-linux trool face
07:17 Sgt_Lemming you can actually get IP68 rated tablet PC's
07:17 wannabe-zz how long are you in the shower?!
07:17 Sgt_Lemming they turn up on ebay ocassionally
07:18 speed-linux what about cooling?
07:18 Xela Probably not too much of an issue, since the battery life of those things is very short anyway.
07:18 Sgt_Lemming err, the ones I am thinking of are > 10 hours Xela
07:19 Sgt_Lemming they are designed for nurses/doctors
07:19 Sgt_Lemming passively cooled, wifi connections, resistive touchscreen
07:19 Sgt_Lemming bone conduction audio on the cool ones :-D
07:19 Xela Oh, I was thinking of a first-gen Eee Pc thingy, but I can see that if you want to operate something for longer, you'll have to think about heatsinks. Anything that's waterproof (electrical insulator) will usually also be a heat-insulator
07:19 speed-linux bone comduction?
07:20 Xela yeah, underwater headphones basically
07:20 speed-linux o_o
07:20 Sgt_Lemming nope, underwater headphones normally just work by sealing the ear canal
07:20 Sgt_Lemming this works by making a bone (normally your jaw or cheek) resonate
07:21 speed-linux o_o
07:21 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bone_conduction
07:22 speed-linux o_o
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07:22 Sgt_Lemming the bluetooth headset you always used to see boden wearing in the videos was an Aliph "Jawbone" headset
07:22 Sgt_Lemming which works that way
07:23 Xela Oh, nice. I didn't know there were non-bone-conduction underwater headphones
07:23 Sgt_Lemming there are
07:23 Sgt_Lemming they suck
07:24 Sgt_Lemming cause you go down a few metres and the pressure difference starts to either cram them onto your head really hard, or force the earbuds into your ear canal further
07:26 Electricguy morning
07:26 Sgt_Lemming speed-linux http://www.advantech.net.au/products/MICA-101/mod_D89AF2EA-E136-4F21-8A20-BF5E6CFD1ED0.aspx <--- ip54 rated tablet
07:28 Sgt_Lemming speed-linux http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trimble-Yuma-Rugged-Waterproof-Tablet-Computer-All-Weather-Durable-Windows-PC-/160510901227?pt=US_Tablets&amp;hash=item255f31fbeb <--- IP67 rated tablet running windows7
07:28 Sgt_Lemming ip67 basically rates it against everything but pressure hoses
07:28 Xela 4k for a 7" .... outch
07:28 Xela But yeah, that's one seriously rugged tablet
07:34 speed-linux wow
07:34 speed-linux ...wow
07:36 speed-linux wannabe-zz: you wont win
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08:37 Electricguy 3 half crappy pics of my new lab computer http://electricguy.imgur.com/egs_lab_computer
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09:32 Nekoroms hmm when would it be the best time to watch live stream
09:32 Nekoroms i mean the biggest chance of something interesting going on
09:36 Nekoroms maybe just couple of hours before midnight ?
09:36 Electricguy i have no idea
09:36 Electricguy but the same question as you :P
09:36 Nekoroms yeh the weathercam is kinda boring :)
09:37 Electricguy indeed :P
09:37 Nekoroms and secondly what timezone is tgg @
09:37 Nekoroms there are amazing ammount of white cars around there :)
09:38 Nekoroms 5 white cars and one gray one is about the ratio :)
10:11 Thermoelectric .t lab
10:11 BotSteve Thermoelectric: Sorry, I don't know about the 'lab' timezone.
10:11 Thermoelectric .t tgg
10:11 BotSteve Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:11:14 TGG
10:11 Thermoelectric Guess it's around 6am at the lab now.
10:11 masterofmonks Roughly.
10:31 Sythen woot, i finally got my camera
11:15 yNos|away mornin all
11:15 Sythen mornin yNos
11:33 yNos how are things over there?
11:34 Sythen not too bad, just playing with the new camera
11:34 yNos cool
11:34 Sythen cant do much with it yet
11:34 yNos oh?
11:35 Sythen no memory card just yet
11:35 yNos a picture takerthat doesnt take picture
11:35 yNos ah
11:35 Sythen lol
11:35 Sythen memory card comes tomorrow
11:35 Sythen 16gb class 10 card
11:35 yNos damn flash is getting small
11:35 yNos i remember my first 16k eprom
11:35 Sythen lol
11:36 yNos i thought that was hot shit
11:36 yNos now
11:36 Sythen i remember my first zip drive
11:36 Sythen 288mb
11:36 Sythen fuck yeah
11:36 yNos BAM
11:36 yNos STORAGE
11:36 Sythen and my first cd writer
11:36 Sythen fucker was scsi lol
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12:09 wannabe-zz yay you don't have a tail :D
12:29 wannabe-zz .tfw 49505
12:29 BotSteve 55°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT AND WET IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Where life is mediocre'
12:37 Sythen .tfw UKXX0018
12:37 BotSteve Unknown location
12:37 Sythen suckage
12:37 Sythen .tfw 0018
12:37 BotSteve 69°F?! ITS FUCKING SEXY TIME IN New York, NY!  'Why is 77 better than 69? You get eight more.'
12:37 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc brisbane
12:37 BotSteve 18°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Brisbane, AS!  'It is safe to take your ball-mittens off.'
12:38 Sythen .tfwc birmingham
12:38 BotSteve 19°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Birmingham, AL!  'What would you do for a holyshititsniceout bar?'
12:38 Sythen .tfwc birmingham uk
12:38 BotSteve 23°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN birmingham uk, !  'OPEN A FUCKING WINDOW'
12:39 wannabe-zz lol
12:40 * wannabe-afk high fives Sythen in place of a hug....
12:41 Sythen heheh
12:42 wannabe-afk its what i do with one of my friends....she dislikes hugs
12:43 wannabe-afk she's also 1/2 ginger
12:43 Sythen lol
12:43 Sythen i like red heads
12:43 wannabe-afk everyone does
12:43 wannabe-afk damn gingers
12:45 wannabe-afk but really, i must be going.  have to bring a friend to school
12:45 wannabe-afk ttul
12:45 wannabe-afk o.O mom pinged!
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12:56 egrsteve hello
12:57 egrsteve it's quiet in here, too quiet
13:00 yNos lmost like there might be something stewing
13:00 * yNos turns up the volume
13:05 Sgt_Lemming deus ex: human revolution can be quite freaking annoying
13:07 Sgt_Lemming he insists on standing up to hack a computer, and the computers are ALWAYS in front of a window
13:07 yNos design plan or flaw?
13:08 Sgt_Lemming dunno
13:08 Sgt_Lemming but freaking annoying nonetheless
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13:15 obtuseMobile im in wisconsin driving at 70 mph
13:15 obtuseMobile well not driving
13:15 obtuseMobile riding
13:17 obtuseMobile no one alive?
13:18 yNos riding?
13:18 yNos riding what?
13:19 yNos am bouncing between fixing a hack of a script.. i need to just re-write it
13:21 obtuseMobile im heading to minnesota with friends
13:22 obtuseMobile riding in the back of a van
13:23 obtuseMobile sprint 3g is pretty good in wisconsin
13:23 yNos cool
13:23 yNos whats going on out there?
13:24 obtuseMobile wedding in minneapolis on saturday. partying before it.
13:29 yNos nice
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13:38 yNos Infected Mushroom FTW
13:44 obtuseMobile new mastodon album being played in this car.
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14:02 Sgt_Lemming mmm, love me some infected mushroom
14:02 Sgt_Lemming gone into the hackerspace a number of times and cranked it up while I rock out on the lathe
14:03 Sgt_Lemming shpongle, Juno Reactor, Propellorheads, Leftfield, Mauro Picotto
14:04 Sgt_Lemming oooh, Daft punk, of course
14:06 yNos is all good
14:07 Sgt_Lemming animatrix soundtrack :-D
14:09 Sythen im loving this new camera
14:09 Sgt_Lemming yay hollywood, guy inflates a CO2 life jacket like 50 feet underwater, then has to swim to the surface?
14:11 Sgt_Lemming I've inflated one of them underwater, you come up like a cork from a champagne bottle
14:18 yNos i guess it all depends on how full of shit you are..
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14:27 yNos Sparky!!
14:27 yNos wb
14:27 SparkyProjects Hi :)
14:28 obtuseMobile i just had the most amazing cheeses
14:29 obtuseMobile yay wisconsin cheese
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14:29 lwq-school hey-ro people
14:30 Sgt_Lemming lo lwq-school
14:30 obtuseMobile sup
14:31 obtuseMobile smoked string cheese equal amazing
14:31 Sgt_Lemming oi lwq-school, was it you looking for the 200 in 1 kit?
14:32 lwq-school yes but i cant right now im at school
14:32 lwq-school .seen wannabe1987
14:32 BotSteve lwq-school: I last saw wannabe1987 7.33 hours ago at 2011-09-28 07:12:26 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 14:32:31 UTC
14:32 lwq-school .wannabe-zz
14:32 lwq-school .seen wannabe-zz
14:32 BotSteve lwq-school: I last saw wannabe-zz 1.89 hours ago at 2011-09-28 12:39:41 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 14:32:50 UTC
14:32 lwq-school WTF
14:33 lwq-school kelly you here
14:33 Sgt_Lemming lwq-school http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1659
14:34 lwq-school i cant look at it...im at school and the school can see everything i look at
14:35 lwq-school im only aloud on here because its a learning website
14:35 Sgt_Lemming lwq-school, call it research for an electronics project
14:36 lwq-school lol
14:36 yNos obtuseMobile: there is an amish cheese house north of greenville that has some amazing cheeses.
14:36 lwq-school ok im gona email that to myself
14:41 lwq-school gah can some one text kelly i want to talk to here
14:43 obtuseMobile yNos do you know a name or street of the place?
14:46 yNos umm
14:46 yNos not offhand
14:46 yNos let me check
14:47 yNos http://www.farmcountrycheese.com/
14:47 yNos 7263 West Kendaville Rd.
14:47 yNos Lakeview, MI 48850
14:50 yNos Sgt_Lemming: i think that kit is out of Lee's means atm
14:50 Sgt_Lemming entirely possible
14:50 Sgt_Lemming but still awesome
14:50 yNos yeah
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14:51 Sgt_Lemming awesome how it has a normal breadboard in the middle
14:52 Sgt_Lemming and looks to have an hd44780 compatible LCD and a number of other cool bits built in
14:53 yNos i think he said his planned budget was $40ish
14:53 Sgt_Lemming yeah
15:00 obtuseMobile thanks for the link ynos. its bookmarked
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15:15 wannabe-afk hi obtuseMobile
15:15 obtuseMobile hello kelly
15:16 wananbe1987 how are you?
15:18 obtuseMobile good. in the middle od the dairyland.
15:18 wananbe1987 wisconsin?
15:18 wananbe1987 why?
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15:20 wananbe1987 hi Seroster, ajprog_laptop
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15:29 Sgt_Lemming grrr, got a fairly deep jagged cut on my knuckle last night, got coolant, swarf, etc in it
15:29 Sgt_Lemming tried to clean it, not very well obviously, cause now it hurts like a bitch
15:29 Xela yeah, facepiercing can do that do you...nasty stuff
15:30 Sgt_Lemming xela, closest I came to face piercing was lots of aluminium swarf in my eyebrows
15:30 Sgt_Lemming boring out the inside of an alu piece at ~2krpm
15:31 wananbe1987 Sgt_Lemming that sounds painful (the cut on the knuckle)
15:31 Xela Oh, not in your face...in the face of whoever you were beating up  (or how else did your cut your knuckle? :P )
15:31 Sgt_Lemming it is
15:31 Xela *your=>you
15:32 Sgt_Lemming Xela, cut it from getting a bit too close to the ~6Kg steel chuck
15:33 Xela aw, that sucks
15:33 Sgt_Lemming the jaw whacked my knucle on the way paste
15:33 * Sgt_Lemming got a nice wake up call
15:33 wananbe1987 thoes are nice.....
15:33 wananbe1987 until you lose a body part
15:33 Sgt_Lemming lathes are DANGEROUS
15:34 Xela Outch, guess you were lucky to get away with a cut.  And yeah, I can imagine that would have REALLY woken you up
15:34 Seroster Mrgh
15:34 Sgt_Lemming yeah, I've seen worse happen Xela
15:34 wananbe1987 sounds like Seroster needs to be woken up
15:35 * Sgt_Lemming hands Seroster a fresh triple shot extra hot cappucino
15:35 * Seroster beats Sgt_Lemming unconcious
15:35 wananbe1987 o.O
15:35 Seroster In a bad fucking mood
15:35 wananbe1987 i see
15:36 * wananbe1987 gives Seroster space
15:36 wananbe1987 what happened?
15:36 * Sgt_Lemming hands Seroster some valium
15:36 Seroster My phys ed teacher
15:36 Seroster IS a fucking russian
15:36 wananbe1987 again?
15:36 Seroster A FUCKING RUSSIAN
15:36 Sgt_Lemming ....?
15:36 Seroster "AIGH! OUT IN WOODS N RUN!"
15:36 Seroster Erm....
15:36 wananbe1987 i don' know what that means.....
15:36 Seroster "RUN YOU BASTARD!"
15:36 Seroster Phys ed?
15:36 wananbe1987 yes
15:36 wananbe1987 PE
15:36 wananbe1987 i know
15:36 Seroster Physical education? Gum class?
15:36 wananbe1987 gym you're ssupposed to RUN
15:36 wananbe1987 but a russian?  huh?
15:37 Seroster Yeah
15:37 Seroster The teacher is a fucking russian
15:37 Seroster Talks all russian accenty and is a maniac
15:37 Xela Don't be beeech....be russian!
15:37 Seroster "OUT N RUN IN FOREST!"
15:37 wananbe1987 why is running bad in PE?
15:37 Seroster So... I ran for 120 minutes.
15:37 Seroster Because I hate running. And I can give you a dozen better things to do than running when you got a sprained ancle.
15:38 * Sgt_Lemming points at the scar from the 19 stitches on his left heels and say's "get fucked"
15:38 wananbe1987 ok, i can see how running for two hours would suck
15:38 wananbe1987 i saw pics of that Sgt_Lemming o.O
15:38 Sgt_Lemming no way in hell am I running for anyone
15:38 wananbe1987 what'd you do?!
15:38 Sgt_Lemming broke both heels wananbe1987
15:38 Seroster That's some powerful bondage.
15:39 wananbe1987 how?!
15:39 Seroster That's some powerful bondage.'
15:39 Sgt_Lemming went down a dry waterslide on a rubbish bin lid, hit the concrete pool wall going rather fast
15:39 Xela ouuuuuuutch
15:39 * Sgt_Lemming nods
15:39 wananbe1987 o.O
15:39 Sgt_Lemming they put me on ketamine...
15:40 wananbe1987 why were you ona rubbish bin lid?
15:40 wananbe1987 and was there water in the pool
15:40 Sgt_Lemming cause going down in wet swimmers didn't work
15:40 Seroster Idiot =P
15:40 wananbe1987 ah
15:40 Sgt_Lemming nope, no water in the pool at the bottom of the slide
15:40 Xela seriously?
15:40 Seroster Idiot =P
15:40 * wananbe1987 agrees w/ Seroster
15:41 Seroster What the fuck did you expect would happen mate? =P
15:41 wananbe1987 clearly not what did....
15:41 Xela "Oh hey I'm that dude who slides into empty pools and sticks his hands into lathes"
15:41 Sgt_Lemming didn't quite expect it to go that fast Seroster
15:41 wananbe1987 you've spent more than your fair time in an ambulance, haven't you, Sgt_Lemming
15:41 Sgt_Lemming Xela, barking your knuckles is an occupational hazard with lathes
15:41 Sgt_Lemming now ask what I am working on :-P
15:42 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, It is not.
15:42 Xela "what are you working on?" :P
15:42 Sgt_Lemming flamethrower nozzle :-D
15:42 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, Go to google.com, choose "pictures" and google "lathe accident" - then enlarge the pictures you get and reevaluate your respect for the machine.
15:42 Xela That sounds *totally* safe!
15:43 Seroster DONT FUCK AROUND WITH LATHES
15:43 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, have a certificate in engineering, and no less than 4 in OH&S, plus a 1st class First Aid cert
15:43 Seroster Or any thing that makes metal move
15:43 Sgt_Lemming I'm well aware of the dangers of lathes
15:44 Seroster Then you would stay away from them =P
15:44 Experimentonomen i have had my hands getting hit by the chuck jaws numerous times
15:44 Sgt_Lemming right, so because something is dangerous? I should stop doing it entirely
15:44 * Seroster beats Experimentonomen with a broom handle
15:44 Seroster No, but you should stay away from it =P
15:45 * Experimentonomen takes Seroster's broom and stuffs it into a large tree chipper
15:45 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, eaten any toast lately? it's THE most common carcinogen in the world
15:46 Sgt_Lemming just because something has the potential to be dangerous, is not a reason to never do it
15:48 * Experimentonomen almost fell asleep at the dentist's today :/
15:48 SparkyProjects Seroster, i'm sure one day you will cut yourself while you are scrapping old equipment (if you haven't already)
15:48 wananbe1987 Experimentonomen i've almost done that....while numb too :P
15:48 SparkyProjects Without danger there is no discovery
15:49 wananbe1987 Sgt_Lemming - toast as in warmed bread or charred bread?
15:49 Experimentonomen charred bread, EWW!!
15:49 Experimentonomen :P
15:49 wananbe1987 some like it black
15:49 Sgt_Lemming if it's even slightly browned wananbe1987, it has carcinogens in it
15:49 wananbe1987 i like it barely warmed :P
15:49 Sgt_Lemming very minute trace amounts, but they are there
15:50 wananbe1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude he's full of carcinogens
15:50 BotSteve wananbe1987: I'll pass that on when toastdude is around.
15:50 wananbe1987 the fuck?
15:50 wannabe1987 how do i spell my own name wrong?!
15:51 Sgt_Lemming like everything, it's all about the doses
15:52 SparkyProjects heh, i have a safety sheet for water, one of the instructions if it is spilled is to dilute it with water :D
15:52 SparkyProjects I'll have to dig it out and post  it
15:53 Seroster SparkyProjects, There is no imminent danger of losing a limb while disassembling old equipment
15:53 Seroster Btw
15:53 Seroster I dismantled a heating thingy yesterday
15:53 Seroster Went by the bin today and there were TWO NEW ONES
15:53 Seroster =D
15:54 SparkyProjects Depends on how big the equipment is, it could fall on you :P
15:54 Seroster So... Gearing up, going out in a lil while.
15:54 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carcinogen#Carcinogens_in_prepared_food
15:55 wannabe1987 Sgt_Lemming while camping, to clean up, we burned everything.  even the plastic.  yeah....bad idea
15:58 Sgt_Lemming yeah, burning plastics is an incredibly bad idea
15:58 Sgt_Lemming especially synthetic plastics, i.e. oil based ones
15:59 wannabe1987 idk what kind they were....
15:59 Sgt_Lemming most likely oil based, they are by far the most comono
15:59 Sgt_Lemming common*
16:00 Sgt_Lemming milk bottles are often made from PLA though which is a "natural" plastic
16:10 wannabe1987 HIDE ALL THE THINGS
16:21 yNos anyone in GR area down for lunch?
16:23 Sgt_Lemming wish I was
16:23 Sgt_Lemming well, in the GR area I mean
16:26 yNos :P
16:27 wannabe1987 hmmmm i'm broke :(
16:28 wannabe1987 i stuck it all in my gas tank to get to greenville and back...
16:30 Sgt_Lemming working on my combat bot design again yNos
16:31 Sgt_Lemming bah
16:31 Sgt_Lemming sif leave!
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16:32 * egrsteve is freezing in class
16:32 * wannabe1987 gets egrsteve a hot towel
16:32 egrsteve thanks
16:32 wannabe1987 np.
16:33 egrsteve I have no idea why his room is always so cold
16:34 egrsteve ok class is over, time for lunch an thawing
16:34 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/inertial/RobotStuff?authkey=Gv1sRgCNCLrfeiuqPW4AE#5657449297496708146 <--- what I am working on atm
16:34 wannabe1987 ok
16:34 wannabe1987 bye
16:34 wannabe1987 i'd say have fun in the sun, but there is no sun :(
16:34 Sgt_Lemming base for the robot
16:37 Seroster Mrghnurk
16:38 wannabe1987 still Seroster?
16:40 tonsofpcs hi
16:44 wannabe1987 hi tonsofpcs
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16:47 mashpriborintorg hello guys and gals
16:48 * mashpriborintorg restoring a 1973 HP-46 calculators picked up for 5 euro at the flea market
16:49 mashpriborintorg she is extra rare according to hpmuseum.org yay
16:49 wannabe1987 ooo
16:49 wannabe1987 hi mashpriborintorg
16:49 mashpriborintorg some idit made a cigarette buen on the case :(
16:49 mashpriborintorg hi
16:50 wannabe1987 my calc (Texas instruments) had a burn type thing on the screen :(
16:50 mashpriborintorg the only really valuable ones on collectors market are HP's
16:52 wannabe1987 i wouldn't know :P
16:53 Seroster FUCK
16:53 Seroster ASS
16:53 Seroster :@
16:54 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z3uyrGN0d4&amp;feature=related
16:54 Seroster SparkyProjects!
16:55 Seroster Im fucking depressed now
16:55 SparkyProjects what  ?
16:55 Seroster The two heating units are moved inside
16:55 Seroster Like they think someone would take them!
16:55 Seroster ...erm...
16:55 Seroster FUCK!
16:56 SparkyProjects Yeah, they probably are thinking about thieves :P
16:56 Seroster So I missed out on two pump motors, eight contactors, two transformers, six connectors, eight relays, two pressure sensors....
16:56 Seroster When it sits out in the free I can argue it's like dumping it in the forest, they got no ownership then.
16:57 Seroster But when they lock it into a house... I won't fuck with it =P
16:59 Sgt_Lemming awww, poor seroster
17:02 SparkyProjects property always belongs to someone, if it's in a dumpster it belongs to the original owner or the dumpster company
17:02 SparkyProjects If it's dumped in a forest, it still belongs to the original owner.
17:02 SparkyProjects Doesn't mean i wouldn't do dumpster diving, though i  may ask permission first :P
17:03 Sgt_Lemming dumpster diving is awesome
17:03 Sgt_Lemming gotten heaps of coll stuff from doing that
17:03 wannabe1987 i'll take your word for that
17:03 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, dumpster diving behind places that do electronics
17:04 wannabe1987 ooooo
17:04 wannabe1987 ok
17:04 Sgt_Lemming so they are dumpsters full of components etc
17:04 wannabe1987 i wouldn't know, i don't do that
17:04 wannabe1987 like radio shack?  best buy?
17:04 Sgt_Lemming If I come to GR I'll take you
17:04 Sgt_Lemming zactly
17:04 wannabe1987 ok
17:04 wannabe1987 you do that
17:05 mashpriborintorg here they put cctv cams behing the store building, surveying the dumpsters
17:06 mashpriborintorg if you approach it, a rottweiler guy appears
17:06 mashpriborintorg because if you pick up for free, maybe you will not buy :p
17:07 mashpriborintorg and it's bad for their business
17:07 Seroster Is wolram valuable?
17:08 Seroster mashpriborintorg, If they were that concerned just make a one way dumpster
17:09 Seroster Wolfram... Tungsten
17:10 wannabe1987 one way dumptser?
17:10 mashpriborintorg they are such dumpters most the time, not they double security
17:10 Seroster wannabe1987, you know how post boxes work?
17:10 Seroster or, mailboxes rather
17:10 wannabe1987 i put stuff in and i take stuff out
17:10 wannabe1987 ....
17:10 mashpriborintorg nightmare dumpters you mean :'(
17:11 mashpriborintorg you know there is awesome things in it, you can't reach it
17:11 Seroster One 4 tumbler lock between me and two heating units
17:11 Seroster And about five tonnes of goodies I want
17:13 Sgt_Lemming rofl
17:18 mashpriborintorg I wonder how many tons my stuff is
17:19 mashpriborintorg assuming a single russian tank radio is alreade 35 kilos
17:21 Seroster Heh
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17:23 wannabe-afk-art wb egrsteve
17:25 egrsteve thanks, I have had a cup of hot chocolate so I am less frozen now
17:25 wannabe-afk-art yay!
17:26 Sgt_Lemming hmmm, trying to think if I need bracing on this bot or not...
17:26 Sgt_Lemming then weight becomes a problem
17:27 Sgt_Lemming but if not braced, might bend the weapon bar...
17:27 Seroster Triangulate
17:27 Sgt_Lemming yeah, that's what I mean, seroster, whether I need to brace it with two 45° beams
17:31 Seroster Go for it
17:31 Seroster You need a bot that won't break and goes apeshit on other bots
17:32 Sgt_Lemming yeah
17:32 Sgt_Lemming gimme a minute, nearly finished my cad sketch
17:32 Sgt_Lemming will upload it
17:34 Sythen anyone played with a zipit z2 at all?
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17:35 injektion Lithium hypochlorite has a unique smell
17:38 tonsofpcs hi wannabe-...
17:40 Sythen time for a brew i think
17:40 yNos|lunch back
17:40 yNos|lunch in a gaia coma
17:43 injektion Lithium hypochlorite reminds of the smell of sea water
17:45 SparkyProjects injektion, sea water smells of salt i believe, but if you mean the smell you get when you get near the sea,  that's bacteria farts
17:47 injektion The smell of that reminds of that oh well lol
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17:50 Sgt_Lemming Seroster https://picasaweb.google.com/inertial/RobotStuff?authkey=Gv1sRgCNCLrfeiuqPW4AE#5657469197620375634
17:51 Sgt_Lemming the weapon is a piece of hardened 3" steel drive shaft with a 20° on either end
17:52 Seroster ARRRGH
17:52 Sgt_Lemming ...?
17:52 Seroster That looks like Satan's Segway
17:52 Sgt_Lemming heh
17:52 Sgt_Lemming that might have to be it's name then :-P
17:53 Sgt_Lemming fyi, tube on the back is a bumper to protect the motors
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17:53 angy boo!
17:53 Seroster Hm
17:53 Seroster So
17:53 Seroster How does it work?
17:54 Seroster One wheel rotates cw and the other ccw
17:54 angy Punch it in the eye!
17:54 * Sgt_Lemming nods
17:54 * angy goes back to sleep
17:54 Seroster And the bot just spins like crazy until you hit something?
17:54 Sgt_Lemming angy https://picasaweb.google.com/inertial/RobotStuff?authkey=Gv1sRgCNCLrfeiuqPW4AE#5657469197620375634
17:54 * Sgt_Lemming nods
17:54 Sgt_Lemming that's the plan stan
17:54 Seroster Hm, Sgt_Lemming
17:54 angy :)
17:54 Seroster Half way out on the shaft
17:54 Seroster To almost where the wheels connect
17:54 Seroster Tubing
17:54 Sgt_Lemming bracing?
17:54 Sgt_Lemming yeah
17:55 Sgt_Lemming might have to chuck it into to solidworks and do some FEA on it and see how much bending force it will take
17:55 Seroster Yeah
17:55 Seroster Or mate
17:55 Seroster A steel wire would work
17:55 Seroster One on each side, wich means it can't bend the other way due to the wires tensile strenght
17:56 Seroster gth*
17:56 Sgt_Lemming could work
17:56 Sgt_Lemming probably end up weighing the same as adding some reinforcing
17:56 Seroster I dont think sp
17:56 Sgt_Lemming wire would mean other bots would bounce off it and into the weapon though
17:57 Seroster Yeah
17:57 Sgt_Lemming once I add eyebolts for the wire etc
17:57 Seroster But dont get it all the way out
17:57 Seroster Because then it might snap when you hit stuff
17:57 Seroster Also, the balance issue.
17:57 Sgt_Lemming hence why the motors are sticking out the front of it
17:57 Seroster Will the bot be semi stationary, or would you accept it flying all over the place?
17:57 Sgt_Lemming all the weight is shifted as far forward as possible
17:58 Sgt_Lemming 2.2Kg's of motors, 1Kg of batteries
17:58 Sgt_Lemming plus the bumper acts to counterbalance further
17:59 Sgt_Lemming also will lighten the internal chassis as much as possible on the weapon side of the wheels to add to counterbalance effect
17:59 Sgt_Lemming I'd like to get the thing doing > 100 RPM on the spot
18:02 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFEbfjVpXRA&amp;feature=related & http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLKrUk4NktY <--- where I got the idea
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18:10 * angy pokes speed-linux
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18:23 angy not a good idea to get up at 2pm...
18:24 retupmoca sure it is - you're just dodging rush hour
18:26 angy the fact I don't drive kind of pluck that one
18:56 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/inertial/RobotStuff?authkey=Gv1sRgCNCLrfeiuqPW4AE#5657485800887916018 <--- nicely lightened chassis
19:17 egrsteve hello
19:17 angy Hi Steve
19:32 * mashpriborintorg goes to sleep because I wake up a 5.30 am tomorrow
19:35 Hackbat Just sent off my donation to TGG!
19:43 egrsteve hello
19:43 egrsteve .skittle
19:43 egrsteve I think I have been disconnected
19:44 SparkyProjects .skittles egrsteve
19:44 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I got you some blue skittles!
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19:44 Sythen ugh, its only 20:44, and i want to go to bed already
19:44 SparkyProjects Now there's 2 of you
19:45 SparkyProjects Get a coffee to wake you up :D
19:47 Sythen i dont drink coffee lol
19:47 SparkyProjects I know :P
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19:49 BotSteve Spatula.
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20:07 * angy hugs Toastdude
20:07 * Toastdude huga angy
20:07 BotSteve Toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
20:07 BotSteve At 15:50Z, wananbe1987 asked me to tell Toastdude he's full of carcinogens
20:07 Toastdude Lol
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20:08 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
20:08 BotSteve Happy to help, Toastdude
20:08 Toastdude Katemonster!!
20:08 Toastdude Hi
20:08 angy Kate!
20:08 Katemonster heyhey
20:08 Katemonster hi angy
20:08 Katemonster what's up?
20:09 masterofmonks Toastdude: What is the square root of -4?
20:09 * Katemonster bites exor674
20:09 Toastdude I
20:10 Katemonster ...i have two eyes...
20:10 exor674 ow <3
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20:10 lwq1996 guys i need your help
20:10 Katemonster uh oh
20:10 Toastdude A square root of a negative number can't be rational, masterofmonks
20:11 lwq1996 yes it can toast
20:11 masterofmonks lwq1996: What sort of help do you need, also what is the square root of -4?
20:11 lwq1996 a rational number is a whole number....it doesnt have to be positive
20:11 egrsteve or real
20:11 Toastdude Really? Then what is the square root of -4 ?
20:11 lwq1996 idk i will get hold on
20:12 masterofmonks .wa square root -4
20:12 Katemonster sqrt(-4) = sqrt(-1(4)) = 2sqrt(-1) = 2i
20:12 Toastdude Hi
20:12 BotSteve sqrt(-4);2 i;r = 2(radius),theta = 90&deg;(angle)
20:12 Toastdude *Ha
20:12 Toastdude Yeah, 2i, not i
20:12 lwq1996 my calculator woulnt do it
20:13 lwq1996 it comes up as error
20:13 Toastdude Because your calculator doesn't do irrational numbers
20:13 Katemonster it's not irrational
20:13 Katemonster it's imaginary
20:13 lwq1996 i will ask my math teacher tomorrow
20:13 angy it's not rational either
20:13 egrsteve my calculator says 2i as well
20:13 Katemonster is it?
20:14 lwq1996 my teacher said that rational numbers are whole numbers
20:14 egrsteve its a non-real rational number
20:14 Katemonster that's what i thought
20:14 lwq1996 he didnt say if its had to be a possative or not
20:14 egrsteve rational numbers can be exressed as a fraction (ratio->rational)
20:14 Toastdude Whatever... I fail'
20:14 Katemonster rational = never ending decimal, like pi
20:14 Katemonster er
20:14 lwq1996 .g is a negative number irrational
20:14 BotSteve lwq1996: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_a_negative_number_rational_or_irrational
20:14 Katemonster *irrational
20:14 angy i is not rational steve
20:15 Toastdude negative numbers are rational, lwq1996
20:15 masterofmonks http://www.humblebundle.com/
20:15 angy i is the imaginary unit
20:15 Katemonster negative numbers can be rational.  they don't have to be.  neither do possitive numbers.
20:15 lwq1996 .g is the square root of -4 irrational
20:15 egrsteve true, true
20:15 BotSteve lwq1996: http://www.jimloy.com/algebra/irration.htm
20:15 Katemonster i = sqrt(-1).  it's imaginary, but i don't think it counts as irrational
20:16 egrsteve it's imaginatry but is it rational
20:16 angy nope
20:16 angy it is not a number
20:16 angy is is the imaginary unit, it can't be rational or irrational
20:16 Katemonster http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/index.php/t-243495.html
20:17 angy the only definition of i is "i*i=-1"
20:17 angy it can't be rational or irrational on that definition, that's why it is the "imaginary units"
20:17 angy and is not consider either rational or irrational
20:18 Katemonster angy is using european math.  that's why.  ignore him.
20:18 angy it's metricated maths
20:18 lwq1996 im going to go take a shower guys...tell me the answer when i get back
20:18 Katemonster :p
20:18 Katemonster have fun.
20:18 Katemonster ...not too much.
20:18 lwq-shower i will ;)
20:18 lwq-shower jk
20:19 egrsteve j is a non-real but I can't say whether its rational or not
20:19 angy j as i for electrical people?
20:20 Electricguy i bought a mini keyboard for the new lab computer project today :)
20:20 egrsteve yes, I'm an EE student
20:20 Katemonster whether it's rational or irrational or whatever, the point was that it IS imaginary
20:20 Electricguy going to make a small tiltable shelf thing tomorrow for the KB and the hacked laptop mousepad :)
20:20 angy steve, you can mess a lot of people with i/j by asking them rational or not
20:20 egrsteve i is for current, which may or may not be rational at any given time
20:21 angy sure
20:21 egrsteve but j isn't real
20:21 * Katemonster goes back to math homework
20:21 Electricguy if anyone might be interested in the project http://electricguy.imgur.com/egs_lab_computer
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20:23 angy__ fun fact is j is not real nor complex
20:23 * Katemonster is hungry
20:24 egrsteve time for me to go to class
20:24 NeWtoz I have a 1u very similar to that
20:24 Toastdude Bye egrsteve
20:24 NeWtoz I wonder if it is a generic type
20:24 angy__ have fun Steve
20:24 egrsteve and eat cookies
20:24 NeWtoz not 1u, 4u
20:24 angy__ .cookie ergsteve
20:24 BotSteve Here you go, ergsteve, I baked you a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie!
20:24 egrsteve 1U would tip over
20:24 NeWtoz yeah, I noticed my error and corrected myself
20:25 NeWtoz I'm probably just used to typing 1u
20:25 egrsteve noted
20:25 Sythen i have my main computer mounted in somthing like that
20:25 Sythen need to change the front intake fan tho
20:25 Sythen loud as shit
20:27 Seroster SparkyProjects,
20:27 Seroster Expansion tankl
20:27 SparkyProjects ?
20:27 Seroster Suggestions on fun times to be had?
20:28 egrsteve am i still here?
20:28 angy nope
20:28 angy :)
20:28 egrsteve no really did I get dropped, again?
20:28 Seroster Something like this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Expansion_tank.jpg/220px-Expansion_tank.jpg
20:28 Seroster You are here
20:28 Seroster Instead of asking us ask the bot for a cookie.
20:28 Seroster .cookie
20:28 BotSteve Here you go, Seroster, I baked you a dark chocolate cranberry cookie!
20:28 egrsteve ok
20:29 angy egrsteve: depend when you see the last timestamp
20:29 angy .cookie egrsteve
20:29 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you an almond cookie!
20:29 NeWtoz on another channel, we have a !test for that
20:29 Seroster ERm.
20:29 egrsteve thanks angy and botsteve
20:29 Seroster NeWtoz, that's totally worthless.
20:29 Seroster .calc 2+2
20:29 BotSteve 4
20:29 Seroster Works just as fine.
20:29 yNos g'night everyone
20:30 angy .calc zeta(1)
20:30 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
20:30 Seroster SparkyProjects, Can I somehow modify my expansion tank to become an air reservoir
20:30 Toastdude Night yNos
20:30 angy night yNos
20:30 egrsteve night yNos
20:30 * yNos|away waves
20:30 NeWtoz just as worthless as a virtual cookie
20:30 egrsteve sersoter in theory yes
20:30 SparkyProjects Seroster, i hope yu are aware there is likely to be a rubbr diaprhragm in that tank
20:30 SparkyProjects Yes you can use it as a reservoir, but check pressure ratings.
20:30 Seroster Yeah... It got none
20:30 angy I'll bake Steve real cookies in a few
20:31 Seroster And there is most likely a diaprhragm in it
20:32 Seroster http://plumbertalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/water-heater-expansion-tank.jpg
20:32 Seroster But in essence it is just a big thing with a diaphragm in it
20:32 Seroster Worst case scenario I can make a furnace from it
20:33 Seroster Cut the top 1/8 off, use the inlet as a air inlet
20:33 egrsteve that reminds me I need to get that oil burner working and finnish my reverb
20:33 angy cookies remind you of reverb?
20:33 Seroster Well worst case scenario it explodes and kills me.
20:34 SparkyProjects http://www.e-comfortusa.com/products/amtrol-filltrol-109p-combination-expansion-tank--fill-valve--2-gallon/3090
20:34 SparkyProjects Check the specs, 100pst max
20:34 egrsteve no serosters furnace did
20:34 angy way less fun
20:34 Seroster SparkyProjects, No specs.
20:35 egrsteve as if I finish it it would be a reverb furnace
20:35 SparkyProjects If it was me i would just use the normal connection with a Tee piece for inlet and outlet
20:35 Seroster First it was red, then someone painted it half-white-ish
20:35 Seroster And... Yeah.
20:35 Seroster On one side there is a car tyre valve
20:35 Seroster On the other side there is a threaded hole, with a T in it.
20:35 Seroster And now you know all about it that I do =P
20:36 SparkyProjects That valve is for pressurising the air side (water doesn't compress)
20:36 Seroster Yeah
20:36 Seroster And the hotter the water gets the more air it displaces, and the harder the air tries to resist
20:36 Seroster Should work pretty well against water hammer too
20:36 SparkyProjects But for your purposes, let the air out and just use the water  side for storage
20:37 Seroster Erm
20:37 Seroster My plan was to fuck the bladder up, fill via the tyre valve on the air side and have whatever I want to power on the water side
20:38 Seroster Most likely just pure air for electronics cleaning
20:38 SparkyProjects Or, what you can do is fill with water and seal with a valve connected to a 'gun' barrel
20:38 SparkyProjects Pressurise the air side, then make sure the water side is down, open the valve and you have a water shooter
20:38 angy egrsteve: what class is up tonight?
20:38 egrsteve circuits
20:38 Seroster Is there any way to figure out the rating on a tank without any markings?
20:39 egrsteve mesh current analysis
20:39 Seroster Like... total area divided by weight
20:39 Katemonster hey Seroster what is a netsplit
20:39 Seroster Katemonster, are you serious or just trolling me?
20:39 Katemonster trololo
20:39 angy kirchoff laws?
20:39 Katemonster was kicked by Seroster: No trollin (k)
20:39 egrsteve blow it up see when it failed, that was the bust presure
20:39 egrsteve ya, boring class
20:39 angy or the same name without all the typos
20:39 Seroster Great idea, egrsteve! =D
20:39 SparkyProjects They are probably all about the same, keep it below 100psi, i think i would keep it at 80 maybe for safety
20:40 Seroster Crap
20:40 Seroster Well, my compressor probably runs to 110
20:40 angy damn theses classes are so long ago...
20:40 angy I don't think I'll be able to do it again now
20:41 egrsteve KVL & KCL lots of fun
20:41 Seroster SparkyProjects, maybe if I throw it on a fire to get rid of the bladder
20:41 Seroster Make a new opening
20:41 Seroster And... Potato cannon!
20:41 SparkyProjects The bladder is part of the seal between the 2 halves
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20:42 Seroster Yeah, screw the seal, I want a big hollow metal thing that I can fill with oxygen and aerosol, then ignite
20:42 angy last time I use it was like 3 years ago
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20:43 Katemonster jerk
20:43 Seroster =)
20:43 Seroster Troll
20:43 angy isn't troll nordic mythology?
20:43 SparkyProjects Yeah, but if you burn the rubber in a fire, you lose the seal, and the tank will leak
20:43 SparkyProjects Think of 2 domes with a ring of rubber
20:43 Seroster Mythology... Meh.
20:44 Seroster Yeah, i know how it works internally
20:44 Seroster But... It wont leak
20:44 Seroster I want one big tank instead of two small
20:45 SparkyProjects I know from close range how they work, seen an industrial version taken apart :P
20:46 Katemonster what are we discussing?
20:46 angy the fact that Seroster may be a troll
20:46 * Seroster kicks angy
20:46 SparkyProjects You would be better just leaving the rubber in place, or if you are desperate to remove it, then a sharp blade on a long stick poked through the water end
20:46 * angy blocks Seroster
20:47 Seroster BotSteve: tell angy He's a childish bastard =P
20:47 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when angy is around.
20:47 SparkyProjects Katemonster, discussing one of these http://plumbertalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/water-heater-expansion-tank.jpg
20:47 * angy tries to punch Seroster's eye
20:47 BotSteve angy: I have the following messages for you:
20:47 BotSteve At 20:47Z, Seroster asked me to tell angy He's a childish bastard =P
20:48 Katemonster ah
20:48 Seroster I love you, angy!
20:48 angy My babies are already takens
20:50 Katemonster ...by me
20:50 Seroster Kate... your gender?
20:51 angy Gender don't matter with me!
20:51 * Katemonster checks
20:51 * angy burst into mad scientist laugh
20:51 Seroster Does it dangle?
20:51 Katemonster yep, still female
20:51 * Seroster silently backs away
20:51 * angy grabs Seroster and glue him in place
20:51 Seroster Katemonster, Did you just say "Yep" to the dangling question and being a female?... I expect pictures in the nsfw chan =P
20:52 Katemonster HA
20:52 Katemonster no.
20:52 Katemonster to the pictures, and the dangle.
20:54 Katemonster botsteve: tell Seroster he's a childish bastard
20:54 BotSteve Katemonster: I'll pass that on when Seroster is around.
20:54 * Seroster kicks BotSteve
20:54 BotSteve Seroster: I have the following messages for you:
20:54 BotSteve At 20:54Z, Katemonster asked me to tell Seroster he's a childish bastard
20:56 Toastdude Lol
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20:59 Katemonster wait.
20:59 Katemonster angy is bi?
21:01 Seroster I dunno, but I'd fuck him.
21:01 Katemonster your opinion doesn't count.  you'll fuck anything.
21:03 Katemonster :( i don't have money for lunch.
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21:11 egrsteve .cookie Katemonster
21:11 BotSteve Here you go, Katemonster, I baked you an oatmeal raisin cookie!
21:11 lwq-shower hello people
21:12 egrsteve hello lwq-shower
21:12 Katemonster lol... liquid shower.'
21:13 Katemonster and thanks steve
21:13 Katemonster ...idk, but thanks anyway
21:13 Katemonster thanks botsteve
21:13 BotSteve Happy to help, Katemonster
21:13 Katemonster *idk why
21:14 Katemonster imaginary cookie does not stop real rumbly tummy.  and as usual the cafeteria food is unreasonably expensive.
21:14 Toastdude Time to take apart a laptop!
21:14 * egrsteve packs lunch from home
21:14 angy don't take apart ajprog_laptop !
21:15 * angy packs Seroster for lunch
21:16 egrsteve let us know how seroster tastes, I assume kind of like chicken
21:16 angy I'll let you know for sure
21:18 Katemonster seroster = scandanavian food.
21:19 Katemonster angy = french cuisine.  or maybe poutine.
21:20 Katemonster katemonster = junk food.
21:20 egrsteve mmm junk food
21:20 angy I'm way more french than canadian
21:20 masterofmonks masterofmonks = 1000 kilocalories of food.
21:20 egrsteve only 1000 Calories
21:20 Sythen angy, your more canadian than french
21:20 angy you're liquid nutrition MoM?
21:21 angy how Sythen ?
21:21 Sythen cause i dont want to kill you, thats why lol
21:21 Katemonster MoM = 1 megacalorie?  or am i interpreting the prefix wrong?
21:21 Katemonster captain duck = the fuckin' giant bottle of tapatillo, probably.
21:21 masterofmonks Katemonster: the proper term for food calories is kilocalorie.
21:22 Katemonster ah, did not know.
21:22 masterofmonks angy: weight loss.
21:22 egrsteve Calorie vs calorie
21:22 masterofmonks I currently weigh 260lbs and my goal is under 220.
21:22 angy I don't think I can loose any more weight or I'll have to start carving into my bones
21:23 Sythen im glad ill never be a skinny dude
21:23 masterofmonks So far I have lost 10lbs.
21:23 masterofmonks I'll never bee skinny, but I don't want this damn belly any more.
21:23 Sythen beer?
21:23 angy I'm not /that/ skinny
21:23 masterofmonks No.
21:24 Katemonster masterofmonks doesn't have a beer belly
21:24 Katemonster masterofmonks has a masterofmonks belly
21:24 masterofmonks But consumption iof 3500-4000 calories a day leads to being overweight.
21:24 Katemonster generally.  you could be worse off though.
21:25 masterofmonks the "ideal" weight for my height is 180.
21:25 masterofmonks I carry too much muscle for that.
21:25 Katemonster masterofmonks is a tank.
21:25 Sythen i dont really care about the whole ideal weight crap
21:25 angy he's bulletproof
21:25 Katemonster heavy, with big guns.
21:25 Sythen lol
21:25 lwq-shower .seen wannabe1987
21:25 BotSteve lwq-shower: I last saw wannabe1987 4.26 hours ago at 2011-09-28 17:10:36 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:25:58 UTC
21:26 lwq-shower fuck
21:26 masterofmonks I brush my teeth with three Chuck Norrises in the morning.
21:26 Sythen if he can get hit by a 40 tonne truck and live, thats tank status
21:26 lwq1996 any9ne know where she went\
21:26 masterofmonks lwq1996: Which she?
21:26 lwq1996 kelly....wannabe
21:26 Katemonster idk where she went but she left here a few hours ago in a hand basket
21:27 lwq1996 lol
21:27 egrsteve not to be confused with seroster in a lunch pale
21:27 lwq1996 lol
21:28 Katemonster seroster is work food, not picnic material
21:28 lwq1996 haha
21:29 masterofmonks A nice steaming plate of lutfisk Seroster is.
21:30 * lwq1996 is rolling around on the floor becuase hes bored
21:30 Katemonster seroster is rotten fish?
21:30 masterofmonks No, that's gravlaks.
21:30 Katemonster ah
21:30 angy I hope not, I'm having him for lunch tomorrow
21:31 lwq1996 lol
21:31 lwq1996 some one roll on the floor with me...im bored
21:31 * masterofmonks rolls lwq1996 up in a paper and hands him to Seroster to smoke.
21:32 lwq1996 HEY
21:32 lwq1996 ok
21:33 Katemonster that's probably illegal.  even in sweden.
21:33 Katemonster (but not denmark)
21:33 lwq1996 or amsterdam
21:43 Seroster BUGGERBUGGERBUGGER
21:43 Seroster Blood and sweat
21:44 Sythen buggery bits
21:44 Seroster Gravlax isnt rotten
21:44 Seroster Lutfisk is just disgusting
21:44 Seroster What you are thinking about, mom, is surströmming.
21:44 Seroster Wich is fucking disgusting and..
21:44 angy rotten fish reminds me of one think I had in iceland
21:44 Seroster Probablyt surströmming.
21:45 angy was something based on shark
21:47 masterofmonks Gravlax: (In Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Dutch, Estonian) From Grav meaning grave and laks meaning salmon.
21:48 Seroster Bad translation.
21:48 masterofmonks Referrring to original process of burrying the fish to ferment.
21:48 Seroster Translation would be "over sitting" translated by the same means.
21:51 * angy hopes Seroster won't taste too fishy
21:53 * lwq1996 nibbles on seroster then spits him out
21:53 lwq1996 EW SWEATY
21:53 Hackbat was someone offering buggering?
21:54 Sythen BUGGERY!
22:00 Seroster Mrgh.
22:03 Electricguy REALLY good synth solo to be improvised! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP_XG08JHyw
22:03 Electricguy skillz0rz
22:03 Seroster Ronald Jenkees?
22:03 Electricguy no idea
22:03 * lwq1996 pokes sythen
22:04 Seroster nicht,.
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22:07 Seroster But why is the rum always gone?
22:08 Seroster Thursday is the worst day of the week
22:08 Seroster I think I'll need to get hung over too.
22:08 Seroster Would make it even sweeter.
22:08 angy get gin
22:08 Electricguy why is the rum gone? ?v=JImcvtJzIK8
22:08 Electricguy shite
22:08 Seroster No shit mate
22:08 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JImcvtJzIK8
22:08 Electricguy :P
22:08 Seroster It just got 12.5mn views. =P
22:11 * lwq1996 high fives sythen
22:11 * angy pours a tea to Sythen
22:11 Sythen ello lee
22:11 lwq1996 YAY...HE TALKS
22:12 lwq1996 HI SYTHEN
22:12 Sythen ello
22:12 lwq1996 how you been
22:12 Sythen not too bad
22:12 Sythen got my camera today
22:13 Sythen so its all good
22:13 lwq1996 camera?
22:13 Sythen yup
22:13 lwq1996 what type
22:13 Sythen http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/consumer/digital/digital-cameras/d-slr-long-zoom/finepix-s2950
22:14 lwq1996 brb sythen i got to restart my connection to see the website
22:14 Sythen kk
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22:17 lwq nice camera
22:19 lwq1996 how is the camera working sythen
22:19 Sythen its not bad, i dont have a memory card yet
22:19 Sythen that should come tormorrow
22:19 Sythen tomorrow*
22:20 Sythen 16gb class 10 sdhc
22:20 Seroster Cya
22:20 lwq1996 cool...doesnt it have on board memory
22:20 lwq1996 bye seroster
22:22 Sythen not enough to store anything in
22:23 lwq1996 ah
22:23 Sythen i think it has something like 26mb of internal storage, but i think thats just for settings storage and a buffer for the memory card
22:24 lwq1996 ah
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22:37 angy .cookies egrsteve
22:37 angy .cookie egrsteve
22:37 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a chocolate-covered cherry cookie!
22:38 egrsteve thanks
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22:45 angy he came for a cooke (:
22:45 lwq1996 lol
22:49 yNos|away hiya all
22:50 lwq1996 yay...ynos
22:52 yNos sitting here trying to figure out how long this old pos laptop will run w/o being pluggedin
22:53 lwq1996 lol
22:53 yNos its eaten more than 5% in less than 5 minutes...
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23:01 eadthem minecraft is supose to work on android now
23:01 lwq1996 WHAT
23:01 lwq1996 ITS SUPPOSE TO WORK ON PSP TOO
23:03 Schoolmonster stop yelling
23:04 Schoolmonster okay, i'm headed home.  tty on the other side
23:05 yNos Lee, do you have any spools of wire?
23:05 lwq1996 i have speaker wire
23:05 lwq1996 why?
23:06 yNos just wondering what you have available to you right now..
23:06 yNos no magnet wire?
23:06 lwq1996 nope...
23:06 yNos hmm
23:06 yNos alliator clips?
23:07 lwq1996 i have one a wire with 2 alligator clips
23:07 yNos a neodynium magnet?
23:08 lwq1996 hmmmm....idk if its neodynium
23:08 yNos http://www.josepino.com/?howto-speaker
23:10 lwq1996 cool
23:11 lwq1996 put i dont have any audio plugs...not even and old pair of head phones
23:11 yNos no need..
23:11 yNos do you have a chunk of fools gold?
23:11 lwq1996 no...
23:11 lwq1996 im totally new to this
23:11 lwq1996 so i have nothing
23:12 yNos do you have any metallic looking rocks?
23:12 lwq1996 no
23:12 yNos or a rusty razor blade
23:12 lwq1996 not any thats rusty...
23:13 yNos have a propane stove or a torch?
23:14 lwq1996 i have a lighter
23:14 yNos at'll do
23:14 lwq1996 where you going with this
23:14 yNos http://scitoys.com/scitoys/scitoys/radio/homemade_radio.html
23:15 yNos you can make components from household items
23:15 yNos you are not going to make a computer oit of simple stuff
23:15 yNos but you can make a lot in the kitchen
23:15 yNos the speaker is the hard part.
23:16 lwq1996 lol
23:17 yNos http://josepino.com/howto/making-high-impedance-headphones
23:17 yNos this was the one i wanted to link, sorry.. not the last one...
23:17 yNos if you have any of the singing birthday cards, you can use the piezo speakers from those.
23:18 lwq1996 i have head phones...idk if those or piezo tho
23:18 yNos you need to use high impedance headphones.
23:19 yNos most headphones are 8-32 ohms
23:19 lwq1996 nvm...i can use my watch
23:19 yNos we need... like... 2k+
23:20 yNos you can use some LEDs in place of the fools gold/razor/galena/whatever
23:21 lwq1996 i have 2 LED's
23:21 yNos are they alive?
23:21 angy who turn off the sun when I was not looking?
23:22 wannabe-afk-art sorry angy
23:22 wannabe1987 i eated it
23:22 wannabe1987 it kept me warm
23:22 angy damn!
23:22 Toastdude Hi
23:22 angy time to go buy a boatload of USB thumbdrives
23:22 * angy hugs Toastdude
23:22 lwq1996 they were alive when i took them out
23:22 lwq1996 so i guess they are
23:23 * Toastdude hugs angy-away
23:23 lwq1996 KELLY
23:23 lwq1996 OMG I NEED YOU
23:23 wannabe1987 i'm here
23:23 wannabe1987 whats up?
23:23 lwq1996 yNos....
23:23 yNos yeah
23:23 wannabe1987 I CAME BACK GUYS
23:23 yNos WB wannabe1987 !
23:23 lwq1996 i have led's that are alive
23:23 yNos cool
23:23 lwq1996 where did you go
23:23 wannabe1987 thanks yNos
23:23 lwq1996 but very short leads
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23:24 yNos you have an iron and solder, right?
23:24 egrsteve yes?
23:24 wannabe1987 so what did i miss
23:24 lwq1996 i have dab of solder...like a tube
23:24 egrsteve idk but appenently I have an iron and solder
23:24 lwq1996 he was talking to me
23:24 lwq1996 sorry egrsteve
23:24 egrsteve ok
23:24 yNos egrsteve: i want to try to walk lee through making a little crystal radio
23:24 wannabe1987 lol
23:25 Toastdude Hi wannabe1987, yNos, lwq1996, and egrsteve
23:25 yNos hiya toast
23:25 tonsofpcs ugh....
23:25 wannabe1987 hi toast
23:25 tonsofpcs hi all
23:25 wannabe1987 i have to go switch/find laundry, brb
23:25 * tonsofpcs is virus hunting
23:25 yNos hiya tonsofpcs
23:25 Toastdude Hi tonsofpcs
23:26 tonsofpcs even'n folks
23:26 egrsteve ynos sounds like fun
23:26 egrsteve hi toast
23:26 yNos tonsofpcs: most people dont hunt for virii, they get them on accident.
23:26 egrsteve evening tonsofpcs
23:26 yNos egrsteve: the hardest part is the hi-z headphone
23:26 yNos like... 2k min
23:26 egrsteve piezo element?
23:26 yNos i have a few pairs of crystal phones here..
23:27 yNos yeah, that is what i was hoping he could scrounge.
23:27 tonsofpcs yNos: vista x64, installed avast a few weeks ago, windows started yelling about being 'modified' (it wanted to run WGA).  I figured I'd just uninstall avast because it likely hacked itself into a system call to monitor reads/writes....
23:27 yNos am brainded right now and cant think of things he could harvest them from.
23:28 tonsofpcs they don't still sell piezzo buzzers at radioshack?
23:28 lwq1996 watch...
23:28 lwq1996 i dont live near a radioshack
23:28 yNos you have one you can kill?
23:29 yNos he lives in BFE and is 14.. cant really hop in a car and drive an hour.
23:29 lwq1996 no but i can use the one from my watch and put it back when im done
23:29 lwq1996 BFE
23:29 lwq1996 ?
23:29 tonsofpcs so I start > run > control.  It opens, empty.  i click 'show classic view'' (that was still there), nothing.  Close it.  Try again.  window opens and closes on its own.  So I start killing processes... still can't get into control panel... now i'm in safe mode command prompt and remoivng avast...
23:29 yNos do you need your watch tobeep?
23:29 yNos bfe.. out in the middle of nowhere.
23:29 yNos .ud bfe
23:29 BotSteve yNos: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=BFE
23:30 tonsofpcs and now for sfc /scannow
23:30 lwq1996 lol
23:30 yNos i grew up in bfe and can relate
23:30 lwq1996 lol....
23:30 tonsofpcs lwq1996: where do you live again? what town?
23:30 lwq1996 i can look or a broken watch around the house
23:30 lwq1996 irvona pa
23:31 tonsofpcs also, can't you order a paart from mouser or newark or ?
23:31 lwq1996 its supose to be like a 5min project tonsofpcs
23:32 lwq1996 i got 20 dollars and when i go to radio shack im gona buy some parts
23:32 tonsofpcs lwq1996: ah, you're learning the first lesson of engineering:  Always budget more time than it will take.  Always.  And expect it to go longer anyway.
23:32 lwq1996 like standard stuff
23:32 lwq1996 ik...im a newb
23:32 tonsofpcs if you've got to get a ride an hour to get to a ratshack, you might as well order parts, cheaper and just as fast unless you have your own car
23:33 lwq1996 it will take  half an hour for me to do anything
23:33 tonsofpcs my UPS install is in two weeks, I have a 4 hour budget.
23:33 tonsofpcs ZOMG BOTH RADIO AND TV OFF! WHAT WILL THE PEOPLE DO!
23:33 lwq1996 lol...how much does it charge to ship form newark
23:34 tonsofpcs idk, I don't order in quantities small enough to get charged standard shipping.
23:34 tonsofpcs I order connectors from them.  Parts usually come from mouser or jameco or digikey
23:34 tonsofpcs err, microparts that is
23:34 lwq1996 ah
23:34 yNos was more trying to show that components are around you if you have more time than $
23:34 tonsofpcs not sure who we found the 50000MFD caps from...
23:35 lwq1996 lol
23:35 tonsofpcs and I really should find out who we order the 1F caps from....
23:35 yNos 1f cap?
23:36 tonsofpcs yes...
23:36 yNos whyfor you need a 1f cap?
23:36 yNos power supply?
23:36 * wannabe1987 noms skittles
23:36 lwq1996 .skittles wannabe1987
23:36 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I got you some blackberry skittles!
23:36 * yNos noms farads
23:36 yNos hmm.. that tasted like a 9 volt
23:36 tonsofpcs well, the thing it's for has a 50kW output... not sure whhat the input is at 408...
23:37 tonsofpcs rated at obscene, abt. 8"x18"x30" or so
23:38 wannabe1987 thanks lwq1996
23:38 wannabe1987 how was your day lee
23:38 tonsofpcs "things you store with a piece of 00 wire across the terminals"
23:38 lwq1996 shity
23:38 wannabe1987 uh oh
23:41 tonsofpcs I'm not performing the right search to get a picture... I should pose with it some day.
23:41 tonsofpcs (the one that we keep spare on hand, that is)
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23:42 LinuxH4x0r|mini http://embedded-lab.com/blog/?p=3629
23:42 LinuxH4x0r|mini Just ordered 3 for 30 cents :)
23:43 yNos double otdouplbe ought wire for a cap?
23:43 tonsofpcs yNos: to keep it from charging in the air, yes.
23:44 tonsofpcs see approximate dimensions, listed above
23:44 yNos i understand that.. but double-ought?
23:47 lwq1996 lol my teacher uses TI calculators...i want to buy him this linuxh4x0r
23:47 tonsofpcs yNos: too small of a wire would act as a fuse....
23:47 tonsofpcs windows update time....
23:49 wannabe1987 so. for artprize, the servers went down today, and today was supposed to be the last day of voting....but because of the server issue, they extended it :)
23:51 yNos cool
23:51 lwq1996 lol
23:51 lwq1996 wannabe check pm
23:52 tonsofpcs http://tonsofpcs.com/modempower.png is what I'm seeing on my cable modem btw.  (I haven't had time to swap it)
23:52 tonsofpcs Cprossu: ^^ fun graphs!
23:53 yNos what are you using to sample that?
23:53 yNos and to make the graph
23:54 wannabe1987 sorry lee
23:56 tonsofpcs yNos: some modem logger program
23:57 tonsofpcs and libreoffice
23:57 yNos still around lee?
23:57 yNos cool
23:57 angy-away
23:57 lwq1996 yes
23:57 Toastdude ?
23:57 * angy hugs Toastdude
23:57 Toastdude wtf angy...
23:57 * Toastdude hugs angy
23:57 lwq1996 is angy a girl
23:57 * lwq1996 still doesnt know
23:57 angy I had a space key locked
23:57 tonsofpcs did angy just send \n or something?
23:58 Toastdude angy is both, lwq1996
23:58 Toastdude :P
23:58 angy :)
23:58 lwq1996 toast im being serious i really do not know and ive been trying to figure it out
23:59 Toastdude should I tell him angy?

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