Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-09-29

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00:00 angy sure
00:03 angy damn, a good thing I like gin, I just tripled the dose in my avanlanche
00:03 angy kind of nice actually
00:03 angy and lwq1996, you got me on facebook
00:03 tonsofpcs i still need to go buy bitters and some fresh vermouth
00:04 lwq1996 i do? i dont remember everyone from fb
00:04 tonsofpcs people aren't from fb
00:04 lwq1996 oh shut up you know what im talking about :P
00:04 angy if you're used to italian vermouth, try french one
00:05 angy or the other way
00:05 angy and for manhattans, try dry rosso
00:05 tonsofpcs angy: I'm used to the vermouth I can buy cheap at the liquor store at the bottom of the hill....
00:05 tonsofpcs *checks label*
00:06 angy that's also a nice idea
00:07 tonsofpcs seems i-talian.  (from upstate NY)
00:07 angy 80-90% of (cheap) vermouth you can get are italians
00:08 tonsofpcs based on the fact that I can mostly read the foreign language on the label, i'd say italian
00:08 angy once again, french achohol is overpriced aboad, even for vermouths
00:09 tonsofpcs once again, it's from westfield NY (on lake erie) :)
00:09 angy it's farther from italia than from france :p
00:12 angy I'll have to look if I can send you a bottle from france
00:12 angy we have kind of special rates for bottles :p
00:15 angy we lost Steve, paddles! charge to 300!
00:16 lwq1996 no....1000!!!!!!!
00:16 angy let's try 300 first
00:16 lwq1996 AWE :3
00:16 Toastdude No, OVER 9000!!!
00:16 Toastdude :P
00:16 angy then we'll crank up to way more
00:16 angy Charge!
00:16 * angy takes the paddles
00:16 * angy apply on Steve
00:17 angy darn! We lost him!
00:17 lwq1996 LOL
00:19 wannabe1987 ...
00:19 angy and no wannabe1987 I'm not drunk! I'm only at my first cocktail
00:20 wannabe1987 lol
00:20 angy ok, it's a triple, but it's the first of the day
00:20 lwq1996 and we are gathered here today to morn the loss of egrsteve....R.I.P
00:20 wannabe1987 o.O you KILLED him?!
00:21 * angy discretely harvest the liver and kidneys
00:21 lwq1996 lol
00:21 lwq1996 you may need those angy in the near future
00:22 angy that I may
00:22 roadran422 joined #thegeekgroup
00:22 roadran422 Hello
00:22 lwq1996 hi
00:22 Toastdude Hi roadran422
00:22 lwq1996 you new
00:23 roadran422 Not really new, just have't really been on. Hey toastude!
00:23 roadran422 Also, the stream down? Nothing but logo
00:23 yNos looks to be
00:23 yNos Cprossu: can fix it!?!
00:23 roadran422 Hmmm. Hahaha is anyone at the lab?
00:24 lwq1996 yes ost likely
00:24 yNos lwq1996: have you harvested any transistors?
00:24 angy you need to punch the stream in the eye
00:24 roadran422 Hahaha
00:24 lwq1996 no...
00:24 angy in fact, punching in the eye is the solution to all problems
00:24 * Toastdude punches stream in the eye
00:24 roadran422 Lol
00:24 * angy hugs Toastdude
00:24 * Toastdude hugs angy
00:24 * lwq1996 trys to punch the stream and accidently hits angy
00:24 lwq1996 SORRY
00:25 roadran422 HAHAHA
00:25 angy not my eye! that was the only one still working!
00:25 roadran422 Anyone at the lab?
00:25 * angy goes harvesting an eye on Steve's lying body
00:25 lwq1996 most likely
00:25 lwq1996 lol
00:27 angy and it's not a good idea to do triple avalanche, double is the way to go
00:27 lwq1996 why
00:27 angy it's a little rough
00:28 wannabe1987 roadran422 there are people at the lab still, just noone here is there now
00:28 lwq1996 ah
00:28 roadran422 O...
00:28 angy lwq1996: don't try to do yourself an avalanche yet! way a few years
00:30 wannabe1987 i love my friends, but i has a tired and i wants to sleep.  but friend is here.
00:30 angy punch, eye?
00:30 wannabe1987 no.
00:30 wannabe1987 she had bad day
00:30 wannabe1987 no punching
00:30 angy just eye then
00:31 * wannabe1987 punches angy's other eye
00:31 angy meh
00:31 * angy retract to his shell and hide
00:31 * wannabe1987 doesn't punch very well, sorry, got some other body part :S
00:31 * wannabe1987 decorates angy's shell
00:32 lwq1996 LOL ROFLMAO
00:32 angy that was /my/ shell
00:32 lwq1996 lol
00:32 wannabe1987 it still is
00:32 * angy flood his shell by crying
00:32 wannabe1987 i transfered french paintings to it....
00:32 * lwq1996 puts cork in his shell
00:33 * lwq1996 puts glue around the cork
00:33 wannabe1987 o.O
00:33 lwq1996 you got 5sec to stop crying or you drown
00:33 * angy poke a straw through the shell
00:34 lwq1996 HOW THE HELL....ITS A SHELL
00:34 roadran422 I hope my ortho doesn't kill me. I cut my wire loose, broke 1 bracket off and broke the anchor off my bath tooth.....
00:34 angy It's got a backdoor
00:34 roadran422 lastseen roadran422
00:34 lwq1996 what roadrunner
00:34 roadran422 nothing was trying something lol
00:35 wannabe1987 roadran422!  you're not supposed to do that!
00:35 lwq1996 ha
00:35 wannabe1987 he won't kill you, he'll just be upset :P
00:35 roadran422 what?
00:35 wannabe1987 breaking brackets
00:35 roadran422 ...
00:36 roadran422 Oh lol
00:36 roadran422 I get it I get it.
00:36 wannabe1987 wow
00:36 roadran422 I thought you guys were talking about me saying this lastseen roadran422. I was wondering what
00:36 wannabe1987 no
00:36 wannabe1987 sorry
00:37 roadran422 Lol. I broke it because I was fixing my braces and yah... I gonna hate being yelled at lol
00:37 wannabe1987 lol
00:37 wannabe1987 how were you fixing them?
00:37 lwq1996 its .seen roadrunner422
00:37 roadran422 oh lol.
00:37 roadran422 .seen food
00:37 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen food around.
00:37 roadran422 .seen any food
00:37 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen any around.
00:37 lwq1996 lol
00:38 wannabe1987 i have food
00:38 roadran422 Lol
00:38 roadran422 .seen myself
00:38 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw myself 863.93 hours ago at 2011-08-24 00:42:40 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:38:11 UTC
00:38 masterofmonks wannabe1987: I thought you ahd phood.
00:38 angy I have alcohol, let's team up wannabe1987!
00:38 wannabe1987 i have both food and phood
00:38 * lwq1996 has itch he shoulnt scratch
00:38 roadran422 .seen scotch
00:38 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen scotch around.
00:38 wannabe1987 where is this itch, lee?
00:38 wannabe1987 .seen vodka
00:38 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen vodka around.
00:38 wannabe1987 .seen botabuse
00:38 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen botabuse around.
00:38 wannabe1987 lol
00:38 lwq1996 ummm...thats for me to know and you to go ew at
00:38 gin .seen gin
00:38 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen gin around.
00:38 masterofmonks *cough*nsfw*cough
00:38 roadran422 .seen +botseve
00:38 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen +botseve around.
00:38 gin damn!
00:39 angy .seen gin
00:39 BotSteve angy: I last saw gin 0.00 hours ago at 2011-09-29 00:38:56 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:39:06 UTC
00:39 lwq1996 HEY I DIDNT SAY WHERE
00:39 angy Yay!
00:39 wannabe1987 lol
00:39 masterofmonks Headding ya off at the pass bud.
00:39 roadran422 .seen mirror
00:39 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen mirror around.
00:39 masterofmonks .seen tonic
00:39 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen tonic around.
00:39 lwq1996 angy/ roadrunner if you dont stop spaming we will kick you
00:39 roadran422 What?
00:39 roadran422 ok....
00:40 lwq1996 hmmm we should show him wat a kick is
00:40 lwq1996 jk
00:40 wannabe1987 who will kick?
00:40 masterofmonks lwq1996: how can they scream if they have no lips?
00:40 roadran422 lol
00:40 wannabe1987 you do not has ops
00:40 roadran422 .seen sorry
00:40 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen sorry around.
00:40 lwq1996 mom can me has ops <:(
00:40 wannabe1987 no
00:40 masterofmonks How about a nice +q?
00:40 wannabe1987 BotSteve: where is alto MI
00:41 roadran422 I gtg. Adios todos los. Bye all.
00:41 yNos I KNOW WHERE ALTO IS!!
00:41 Toastdude Bye roadran422
00:41 wannabe1987 bye roadran422
00:41 wannabe1987 where is it yNos
00:41 roadran422 Someone tell chris I said hi lol.......... Cya yall
00:41 wannabe1987 ok
00:41 lwq1996 +v mom?
00:41 masterofmonks Name a sub atomic particle with imaginary mass.
00:41 yNos 60th st
00:42 lwq1996 WHAT
00:42 wannabe1987 60th and what?
00:42 yNos out tword alden nash/lincoln lake
00:42 wannabe1987 o.O
00:42 wannabe1987 lincoln lake?
00:42 yNos that is what the road is called north of lowell
00:42 wannabe1987 right
00:42 lwq1996 .w subatomic partical with imaginary mass
00:42 BotSteve "A tachyon ( /ˈtæki.ɒn/) is a hypothetical subatomic particle that moves faster than light." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon
00:42 angy time to eat!
00:42 lwq1996 theres my answer
00:42 * wannabe1987 noms angy
00:43 lwq1996 a tachyon
00:43 masterofmonks that, that works boggles the mind.
00:43 lwq1996 .g subatomic partical with imaginary mass
00:43 angy in fact, there is a whole physics that was developed using gravity as the mirror  plane
00:43 BotSteve lwq1996: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachyon
00:43 Toastdude masterofmonks: Neutrino?
00:43 lwq1996 tachyon
00:43 Toastdude :P
00:44 lwq1996 ive already said it toast...like way beore you
00:44 lwq1996 should we...+v toast anyway
00:44 Toastdude It was a joke, lee
00:44 masterofmonks You can give him yours.
00:44 lwq1996 NO
00:44 masterofmonks A +v is transferable.
00:44 lwq1996 sorry toast
00:44 lwq1996 lol
00:44 angy meutrino has a mass
00:44 Toastdude :P
00:44 wannabe1987 lol
00:44 angy it's not imaginary though
00:45 Toastdude It was a JOKE :P
00:45 angy but I'll argue that you did not say hypothetical particle in the question mom
00:46 yNos wannabe1987: 96 to alden nash/lowell... then south
00:46 masterofmonks It's a particle that has been being passed around quite a lot for the past week.
00:46 lwq1996 lol
00:47 angy not really, if you think so, you did not read the CERN communicate :)
00:47 masterofmonks I didn't say who was passing it around.
00:47 angy the only faster than light these last week is the CERN, so...
00:48 masterofmonks Yes, and they are looking for an error in their experiment.
00:48 angy not in the experiment per say, but in the detector arrays
00:49 angy but if they did really observe a tachyonic neutrino, that will be huge
00:49 angy (and it's not a tachyon)
00:49 wannabe1987 yNos i see.  a friend moved there recently
00:49 masterofmonks Because given the known values what they are detecting should not be so, and given the the data from 1987a  it does not correlate.
00:50 wannabe1987 1987?
00:50 masterofmonks a
00:50 masterofmonks .wik 1987a
00:50 BotSteve "SN 1987A was a supernova in the outskirts of the Tarantula Nebula in the Large Magellanic Cloud, a nearby dwarf galaxy." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SN_1987A
00:50 wannabe1987 b
00:50 wannabe1987 dude i'm so far *beyond* exhausted idk what that means :S
00:50 angy I'm really waiting on the final results from the CERN :)
00:51 masterofmonks A star explodeded and we detected it in 1987
00:51 roadran422 joined #thegeekgroup
00:51 masterofmonks It was detected Feburay 23 of 1987
00:51 roadran422 Back hi lol
00:52 Toastdude Wb roadran422
00:52 angy if they validate the tachyonic space, that will be huge
00:52 wannabe1987 masterofmonks thanks
00:53 masterofmonks What I am not getting is, shouldn't we have been detecting the gama rays from 1987a at the same time that we detected the neutrino burst?
00:54 masterofmonks Ah, ok. It's due to the non interactivity of the neutrinos.
00:54 angy if I remember well, it was detected anti-neutrinos, not neutrinos
00:55 masterofmonks Both apparently.
00:55 angy nice!
00:55 masterofmonks Well maybe.
00:55 masterofmonks At 7:35 a.m. Universal time, Kamiokande II detected 11 antineutrinos, IMB 8 antineutrinos and Baksan 5 antineutrinos, in a burst lasting less than 13 seconds. Approximately three hours earlier, the Mont Blanc liquid scintillator detected a five-neutrino burst, but this is generally not believed to be associated with SN 1987A.[6]
00:56 angy I thought the neutrino detector were 1988-1989
00:56 angy but they may be 1987 after all
00:56 masterofmonks No, we detected the neutrino emissions before the visible light.
00:57 lwq1996 TOO THE WINDOW, TO THE WINDOW, TO THE WALL, TO THE WALL, TILL SWEAT DRIPS DOWN MY (bad word)
00:57 masterofmonks Spatula?
00:57 lwq1996 what?
00:58 angy I don't know the timeframe for that one, but it may be the nuclear reaction actually preceded the light emission
00:58 wannabe1987 yes
00:58 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i take a nap\
00:58 BotSteve Absolutely
00:58 wannabe1987 ok
00:58 * wannabe1987 sets alarm
00:58 lwq1996 NO
00:58 lwq1996 dont leave me here alone :(
00:58 Toastdude Noooo wannabe1987 !!!!!
00:59 wannabe1987 but guys
00:59 masterofmonks angy: Apparently they were simultanious, however since neutrinos are generally non interactive they were able to escape the core before the light was due to light pressure.
00:59 lwq1996 its almost bed time anyways kelly
00:59 wannabe1987 my eyes are going crosseyed due to lack of sleep
00:59 wannabe1987 bedtime?  thats not till (normally) 2am
00:59 lwq1996 so
00:59 angy that's why I was implying
00:59 angy not why, what
01:00 lwq1996 you'll go to bed earlier and will fall asleep faster
01:00 * yNos is playing with an old regen he fished out of the basement.
01:00 lwq1996 regenl?
01:00 angy it may be interesting to see which neutrino and they mass
01:00 Toastdude Regen?
01:00 yNos regen radio
01:00 lwq1996 ah
01:01 yNos .w "regen radio"
01:01 BotSteve "Positive feedback is energy taken from the output of a system and reapplied to the input, which is phase-congruent with the input signal." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback
01:01 yNos .w "regenerative radio"
01:01 BotSteve "The regenerative circuit (or self-regenerative circuit) or 'autodyne' allows an electronic signal to be amplified many times by the same vacuum tube or other active component such as a field effect transistor." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regenerative_circuit
01:01 tonsofpcs whoevre is talking about radio should be watching twirt on http://live.twit.tv/ now btw.
01:02 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: they moved it to wednesday?
01:02 yNos i would need to move to a machine with flash
01:02 masterofmonks Er wait, are you talking about HAM Nation?
01:03 tonsofpcs no
01:03 tonsofpcs TWiRT.
01:03 angy naah, flash is useless!
01:03 masterofmonks Radio Technology?
01:03 tonsofpcs yes
01:03 masterofmonks Ah.
01:04 angy .seen ponko
01:04 BotSteve angy: I last saw ponko 23.19 hours ago at 2011-09-28 01:53:01 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:04:20 UTC
01:16 * wannabe1987 is so tired tho
01:16 angy go to sleep then
01:16 lwq1996 awe
01:16 wannabe1987 but boy
01:18 wannabe1987 fuck artprize.  cuz website is *still* down i don't know when i volunteer tomorrow
01:18 wannabe1987 :sigh:
01:18 wannabe1987 i guess i can attempt to call in tomorrow
01:18 wannabe1987 or cehck in the AM
01:20 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe
01:22 lwq1996 hey ynos you here
01:24 angy dr_jkl: *hug*!
01:30 BatSteve-Away left #thegeekgroup
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01:30 Toastdude Wb BatSteve-Away
01:30 BatSteve thanks!
01:30 Toastdude BatSteve!!
01:30 angy Baty! :p
01:31 lwq1996 wannabe baty is here
01:31 BatSteve howdy!
01:34 yNos i am here
01:34 yNos just went out to close te door on the chickens
01:34 yNos lwq1996: ^
01:35 BatSteve You have chickens?  Cool!
01:35 yNos we have 17 now..
01:36 angy yaym a chicken miniverse
01:36 lwq1996 did you ever cut ones head off
01:36 yNos yeah
01:37 yNos last weekend we took care of 2 of them
01:37 lwq1996 they jump dont they :P
01:37 yNos all over the place
01:37 lwq1996 thats where the expression comes
01:37 yNos they jump and/or run
01:38 lwq1996 yup my dad done it and told me that they do that
01:40 lwq1996 ynos what can i do with a quarts thing from a watch
01:41 westmi dang! bran new blink 182
01:41 lwq1996 what?
01:41 yNos the quartz crystal?
01:41 lwq1996 yes
01:41 westmi the rock band :)
01:41 yNos not a whole lot unless you have a few.
01:41 lwq1996 ik who they are
01:41 lwq1996 and what are they
01:42 Katemonster joined #thegeekgroup
01:42 * lwq1996 hugs katemonster
01:42 Katemonster .......
01:42 * BatSteve katemonsters hugs
01:42 lwq1996 what!?!?!?!
01:42 Katemonster ordinarily i'd stab you for that liquid, but i'm in a forgiving mood and kind of tired.
01:42 BatSteve Katemonster is a verb.  I just Katemonstered your hug.
01:43 Katemonster hi batsteve
01:43 BatSteve heya kate
01:43 Katemonster lol
01:43 lwq1996 why kate...
01:43 lwq1996 dont you liek hugs?
01:43 Katemonster because i have intimacy and physical contact issues and am very VERY selective of who gets to hug me, yes.
01:44 lwq1996 awe :C
01:44 westmi i know the feeling
01:44 lwq1996 i dont bite
01:44 Katemonster physical contact without granted permission is a sign of aggression and will be countered with excessive force.
01:44 Katemonster so
01:44 Katemonster in other words
01:44 Katemonster if you want a hug, you'll have to fight me for it.
01:44 lwq1996 awe :C
01:44 Katemonster just not tonight.
01:44 Katemonster lucky you.
01:45 angy great, I'm going to get my middle age armor and sword! let's start!
01:45 Katemonster LOL
01:45 tonsofpcs wait, can we broadcast play-by-play of the fight?
01:45 wannabe1987 BatSteve and Katemonster are here
01:45 Katemonster i don't think it'll last that long.
01:45 BatSteve yep, we'll put it up on the stream and have a zillion viewers
01:45 tonsofpcs one zilllllllion
01:45 Katemonster ...
01:46 westmi BatSteve hell yeah!
01:46 BatSteve this is how long the fight will last.
01:46 tonsofpcs what's with the ...? the fight was your idea!
01:46 BatSteve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xpdR6s8kJk&amp;feature=player_detailpage#t=33s
01:46 Katemonster GiR: "I'm gonna HUG YOUUUUUUU"  Zim: "NononoNONONONOOO AAAAH"
01:46 lwq1996 hmmmm....hank from king of the hill reminds me of my dad....just nice
01:46 Katemonster NO GIR NO
01:46 westmi lol
01:47 lwq1996 MY DAD WHERES POCKET T'S
01:47 lwq1996 and he is stickt
01:47 lwq1996 strick*
01:48 Katemonster now i gotta find that sound clip.
01:49 tonsofpcs heh
01:50 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CEFj26HGXw
01:50 yNos this one?
01:50 * wannabe1987 is so lost
01:51 * yNos isnt surprised
01:51 yNos 0.o
01:51 yNos :P
01:53 * wannabe1987 is in a fog, half asleep, and was afk for a bit
01:53 Katemonster um
01:53 Katemonster ...
01:53 Katemonster no
01:53 * wannabe1987 gonna assume you're not talking to me
01:55 Katemonster no, i was talking to ynos
01:57 wannabe-zz night lwq1996, yNos, BatSteve, Katemonster, Toastdude, angy, etc
01:57 Katemonster night
01:57 lwq1996 awe :c
01:57 BatSteve solong wannabe-zz
01:57 wannabe-zz lee you're fine....you have everyone else here
01:58 wannabe-zz i need a night off to SLEEEEEEEEp
01:58 lwq1996 its lonely without u
01:58 wannabe-zz whatever.  i was afk and noone knew you were just fine
01:58 lwq1996 ok :(
01:58 wannabe-zz i'm glad to know i'm missed, but i'm going crosseyed here
01:59 lwq1996 me too
01:59 angy I think it's time to go to sleep as well
01:59 wannabe-zz go sleep
01:59 angy see ya!
01:59 wannabe-zz night angy
01:59 wannabe-zz cya
01:59 lwq1996 night
01:59 Katemonster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ryi0XwLFC4g
01:59 Katemonster that sound clip
01:59 Katemonster 5:58
02:00 Katemonster through the end
02:00 wannabe-zz after Speedrunnerg55 last night, i no longer trust clips people post
02:00 Katemonster it's part of an invader zim episode.
02:00 lwq1996 lol
02:00 Katemonster what did speed post?
02:00 Katemonster or do i want to know?
02:00 wannabe-zz annoying japanese stuff
02:00 wannabe-zz that noone understood
02:00 wannabe-zz and it was n't translated
02:00 lwq1996 in nsfw?
02:00 wannabe-zz and nyan
02:00 wannabe-zz no, here
02:01 lwq1996 oh
02:01 Katemonster i don't troll with videos.
02:01 Toastdude Night wannabe-zz
02:01 Katemonster i troll in other ways.
02:01 Katemonster but watch the last 30 seconds of that vid
02:03 wannabe-zz no
02:03 * lwq1996 glares
02:03 wannabe-zz browser is (not responding) so i can't anyway
02:03 wannabe-zz what?
02:03 wannabe-zz its not my fault! ok?
02:03 lwq1996 not at you
02:03 * Katemonster rolls eyes
02:04 * lwq1996 bites
02:04 * lwq1996 paws at wannabe
02:04 wannabe-zz kinky
02:04 lwq1996 OK THEN TOPIC CHANGE
02:04 wannabe-zz you're the one biting
02:05 wannabe-zz go check your pms anyway, srsly lee
02:05 * Katemonster sets everyone on fire
02:05 * wannabe-zz isn't cold anymore
02:05 * Toastdude = toasty toasted Toastdude
02:05 Toastdude :P
02:05 Toastdude Brb
02:06 lwq1996 lol
02:06 wannabe-zz just don't go up into flames k?
02:06 Katemonster TPA: fun for the whole family
02:06 Toastdude K :)
02:07 BatSteve So I think I just invented a free energy device.
02:07 Katemonster "The substance, often mistaken for napalm, is in fact thickened pyrophoric agent (TPA).  TPA is triethylaluminum (TEA) thickened with polyisobutylene. TEA, an organometallic compound, is pyrophoric and burns spontaneously at temperatures of 1200°C (2192°F) when exposed to air. It burns "white hot" because of the aluminum, much hotter than gasoline or napalm. The light and heat emission is...
02:07 Toastdude Yay!
02:07 Katemonster ...very intense and can produce skin burns from some (close) distance without direct contact with the flame, by thermal radiation alone."
02:08 Katemonster what did you do bats
02:08 tonsofpcs BatSteve: does it involve moving light past the speed of light and back and claiming that the energy absorbed from the state change there is free since it can't exist?
02:09 Katemonster yo dawg, i heard you like time travel.
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02:10 BatSteve tonsofpcs: no, actually, it's much easier than that.  You just bring more energy from one of the other sides of the Time Cube.
02:10 yNos Katemonster: are you making some?
02:11 Katemonster making what, TPA?  fuck no.
02:11 BatSteve ...
02:11 * BatSteve is cracking up thinking about what geekfan must think of this channel
02:12 Katemonster the reason the M202 flash rocket launcher never saw much service is because that shit burns /on contact with air/.  there's no way to put a distance safety fuse on it like a conventional ballistic frag grenade; if some dumbass shoots a tree ten feet in front of him, fuse or no fuse, the casing will split open and the whole platoon will burn to death
02:12 Katemonster i'm more interested in thermate.
02:13 tonsofpcs BatSteve: ah
02:13 tonsofpcs that's not free, it's just future/past/parallel
02:13 Katemonster who's geekfan?  :/
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02:15 BatSteve no idea
02:15 lwq hi
02:17 Katemonster you're confusing me slightly batsteve
02:17 * lwq hugs kate
02:18 Katemonster but that's okay, because this is awesome http://i.imgur.com/eYrpg.jpg
02:18 BatSteve I apologize.  I didn't mean to confuse you.
02:18 wannabe-zz um
02:18 wannabe-zz theres a finger on the napkin
02:18 BatSteve I don't know what this picture is, but I own the watch that the guy in the green vest is wearing
02:18 lwq what?
02:19 wannabe-zz orly
02:19 Katemonster you don't recognize john goodman?
02:19 BatSteve I don't recognize lots of people.
02:19 BatSteve but I think I see Samuel L Jackson in the back
02:19 BatSteve and either the Blues Brothers or Reservoir Dogs behind them
02:19 Katemonster you do
02:20 Katemonster with the wallet that says badassmotherfucker on it
02:20 BatSteve which reminds me
02:20 BatSteve http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lrxswa5Aiz1qiadpyo1_500.png
02:20 Katemonster reservoir dogs.  the guy in the middle is actually q. tarantino
02:20 Katemonster LMAO
02:21 wannabe-zz are they dancing?
02:21 wannabe-zz they look like they're doing a chalrston
02:21 wannabe-zz charlston*
02:21 Katemonster i think wannabe has never seen the Blues Brothers.
02:21 Katemonster sad.
02:22 wannabe-zz they're about jazz and dancing
02:22 Katemonster in the painting i linked to: the two guys in front are Jeff Bridges and John Goodman in The Big Lebowski
02:22 Katemonster http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/the-big-lebowski-movie-image-01.jpg
02:22 wannabe-zz never seenit
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02:22 Katemonster you're missing out.  find a copy.
02:23 Katemonster but note: Blues Brothers != Blues Brothers 2000
02:23 * wannabe-zz goes to accquire
02:24 wannabe-zz there.  stuff is to be acquired
02:24 Katemonster you've got Sam Jackson and the two people behind him with guns are from Pulp Fiction
02:24 wannabe-zz shall i accquire blues brothers?
02:24 Katemonster i thought that's what i was saying you were missing out on
02:24 wannabe-zz Katemonster http://thepiratebay.org/search/blues%20brothers/0/99/0  which one?
02:24 wannabe-zz i thought you meant the big lebowski, cuz i hasn't seen it
02:25 BatSteve wannabe-zz: 4th one down
02:25 BatSteve Blues Brothers 1980
02:25 Katemonster http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6628143/The.Blues.Brothers.1980.THEATRCIAL.480p.BluRay.x264-mSD
02:25 wannabe-zz but theres only 5 ppl seeding it..................
02:25 Katemonster or any of them that say 1980
02:25 BatSteve Yeah
02:25 Katemonster not 2000
02:25 wannabe-zz ok
02:25 Katemonster and not the music album
02:25 BatSteve the 1980 one is the one you want
02:25 lwq wannabe pm
02:25 Katemonster although that's good too
02:27 Katemonster the guy outside the cafe is from No Country For Old Men with the silenced shotgun, and behind him (i think) is David Carradine from Kill Bill
02:28 Katemonster standing behind the Reservoir Dogs is Frances McDormand in Fargo
02:29 Katemonster the guys walking through the door are from O Brother Where Art Thou
02:29 * wannabe-zz hasn't seen any of these
02:29 Katemonster and idk who is portrayed in the picture above the lady from Fargo other than the person has a double shotgun.  i think it *might* be an older David Carradine role though
02:29 Katemonster a western
02:33 Katemonster wannabe-zz: i'd link you to trailers but you're being kind of a bitch about youtube links aluvasudden so :p
02:34 wannabe-zz i wouldn't mind but my browser decided to hate YT so clicking them randomly pisses my browser off and then i can't talk to anyone but irc
02:34 lwq batsteve did you know of the god mode
02:34 wannabe-zz if BotSteve told us what the clip was, i'd be so happy
02:34 tonsofpcs I blame flash.
02:35 BatSteve lwq: god mode?
02:35 Katemonster odd.
02:35 wannabe-zz i blame flash *and* my computer
02:35 wannabe-zz BatSteve wheres the suggesstion box?
02:35 lwq look up god mode on windows :3
02:35 BatSteve you're talking to him, wannabe-zz  :D
02:36 wannabe-zz i keep telling the suggestion box that we should have BotSteve tell us what the videos are but i don't hear back from the box
02:36 BatSteve Well, we can give it a try.
02:37 BatSteve I can always turn it off if it's annoying
02:37 wannabe-zz yeah
02:37 wannabe-zz thanks box
02:38 * BatSteve wonders why the youtube notifier isn't working an.....
02:38 BatSteve HA HA
02:38 BatSteve DISREGARD THAT
02:38 BatSteve I'm an idiot!
02:38 wannabe-zz no you're not
02:38 lwq lol
02:38 wannabe-zz you're too smart to be an idiot
02:38 lwq code problem
02:38 BatSteve In this case I am
02:39 BatSteve nope, missing libraries
02:39 * BatSteve downloads python-gdata
02:39 lwq btw when your in botsteves code can you fix the sandwich code
02:39 yNos ok
02:39 yNos time for bed
02:40 yNos g'night all
02:40 lwq night
02:40 * yNos waves
02:40 wannabe-zz night
02:40 BatSteve I could fix it.  But it's your code.  Are you sure you want me to fix it?
02:40 wannabe-zz he's too lazy and i'm hungry
02:40 lwq no i want you to have the honor
02:40 BatSteve The honor of fixing your code?
02:40 lwq yes
02:40 lwq to get the code to workj
02:41 BatSteve I'm not sure fixing other people's spelling mistakes is usually considered an 'honor'...
02:41 BatSteve I'll think about it.
02:41 lwq botsteve: Break time!
02:41 lwq damn
02:42 lwq omg god mode is awesome
02:42 Katemonster ...i feel like writing an app that makes botsteve kick anyone other than batsteve who tries to use the break time command.
02:43 BatSteve That would be a super easy command to implement
02:43 Katemonster "botsteve: break time!"  "okay, see you when you get back!" *kick*
02:43 lwq he would have to be an op
02:43 Katemonster yes he would.  is anyone really afraid of the bot abusing op powers?
02:43 BatSteve But the trouble is I don't want unscrupulous users baiting clueless noobs into getting kicked.
02:43 wannabe-zz i tried it once :P
02:43 Katemonster LMAO
02:43 wannabe-zz lol
02:44 Katemonster but that's half the reason i want it!  :D
02:44 wannabe-zz lol
02:44 lwq lol
02:44 Sgt_Lemming evil person kate!
02:44 BatSteve In a few days maybe if I get bored we'll op the bot and try it.
02:44 Katemonster lol
02:44 wannabe-zz ok
02:44 Katemonster hi lemon
02:44 lwq lol
02:45 Toastdude Hi Sgt_Lemming
02:45 Sgt_Lemming lo toast
02:46 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/inertial/RobotStuff?authkey=Gv1sRgCNCLrfeiuqPW4AE#5657469197620375634 <--- something for the robot wars fans
02:46 * wannabe-zz is really going to bed now :P
02:46 wannabe-zz night all
02:46 Sgt_Lemming night wananbe
02:46 Katemonster bye
02:47 Katemonster i... very vaguely remember there being a bot like that.
02:47 wannabe-zz and http://artprize.org/ was supposed to be opened at 8...its almost 11 and not open yet grrrrrr
02:47 Sgt_Lemming Katemonster, that is my design for a bot for the local comp
02:48 Katemonster ah, very awesome
02:50 Katemonster uh, remind me, you're in Oz right?
02:50 * Sgt_Lemming nods
02:51 Katemonster are you an actual military veteran?
02:51 Sgt_Lemming no
02:51 Katemonster k
02:51 Sgt_Lemming but "Lemming" was taken on freenode
02:51 Katemonster ah
02:51 Katemonster was just curious
02:51 Sgt_Lemming and "Sgt_Lemming" is the nick I normally use when playing games
02:52 * lwq hugs wannabe night
02:52 Sgt_Lemming I did naval cadets, and almost went to ADFA, but broke my leg severely a few weeks before I was meant to go
02:52 Sgt_Lemming .w ADFA
02:52 BotSteve "The Australian Defence Force Academy (ADFA) is a tri-service military Academy that provides military and tertiary academic education for junior officers of the Australian Defence Force in the Royal Australian Navy (RAN), Australian Army and Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADFA
02:53 BatSteve yum install python-progressbar
02:53 BatSteve I am so excited that this package exists
02:53 Sgt_Lemming lol
02:54 Sgt_Lemming I would have been the second youngest person to go to ADFA ever, which probably would have sucked as well
02:54 BatSteve (and I am very tempted to install "python-sexy" just to see what happens)
02:56 Katemonster damn
02:56 Katemonster that sucks.
02:56 Sgt_Lemming yeah
02:56 Sgt_Lemming not sure if I would hav eenjoyed it
02:57 Katemonster well look at it this way.  you'll never have to carry an F88 Austeyr :p
02:57 Sgt_Lemming eh, I like the steyr
02:57 Sgt_Lemming it's a better service weapon than the M16
02:57 Katemonster i will contest that
02:57 Katemonster ...just not right now.
02:58 Sgt_Lemming contest all you wish
02:58 BatSteve aw, I was hoping for shouts of "Blasphemy!"
02:58 Sgt_Lemming bullpup > Conventional any day
02:58 Katemonster :/ it's too late for me to start lecturing on AR-15 reliability
02:58 Katemonster not really, no.
02:58 Sgt_Lemming aug is one of the most reliable service weapons around
02:58 Sgt_Lemming not to mention ridiculously easy to fix/modify
02:58 Katemonster as is the AR-15
02:59 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
02:59 Katemonster bullpups in general have a lot of downsides though
02:59 Sgt_Lemming IYHO
02:59 Katemonster re: what?
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02:59 Sgt_Lemming conventional layout has plenty of downsides too
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02:59 Sgt_Lemming imho, the downsides of a bullpup layour are far outweighed by the advantages
03:00 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream: http://goo.gl/WBSiE | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 | Testing of the BotSteve video notification module is in effect.  Please tell BatSteve if / when the bot mentions new forum / youtube posts.
03:02 Toastdude Oh cool, that's back
03:03 BatSteve I hope it is.
03:03 BatSteve We're going to check it and find out.
03:03 Toastdude What wasn't working about it?
03:03 BatSteve I didn't have the python-gdata library installed (or rather, it was wiped out after reformat and I didn't reinstall it)
03:03 masterofmonks http://jifish.co.uk/jifish/fishcraft/bedrock/
03:04 BatSteve Which meant that the bot worked, but it couldn't pull new forum posts or youtube videos.
03:04 Toastdude Oh
03:04 Toastdude When you updated him?
03:06 Katemonster bullpup rifle advantages: lower bore line vs. something like the AK or FAL (but not the AR-15 which is a high-sight weapon also), longer barrel in shorter over-all package.
03:06 Katemonster downsides: increased length of pull, center of gravity moved to the rear; if employed poorly (and it usually is) it results in an awkwardly rear-heavy firearm (although the AUG is pretty well balanced, most other bullpup designs aren't).  quick magazine replacement is done blind against your chest rather than in your peripheral vision in front of your face so you're relying on *only* feel to...
03:06 Katemonster ...get the new magazine in (remember, if you look down at your weapon, you're not looking at what's shooting at you).  magazine replacement is *especially* a pain in the ass from prone position.  the major downside though is that it puts the breech right against your head so if there's an out-of-battery malfunction you're probably going to lose an eye, especially if the only thing between...
03:06 Katemonster ...the breech and your face is a plastic shell like on the AUG or the F2000
03:06 Katemonster and i'm not going to go into the handedness issue as that's already been hashed over millions of times.  unless you really want me to go into it
03:08 BatSteve Toastdude: that's correct
03:08 Toastdude Ok
03:11 Sgt_Lemming Katemonster, changing the handedness on an Aug 1 tool and about 10 seconds
03:11 Sgt_Lemming F2000, FNP90 and Keltec RFB it's a non- issue
03:11 Katemonster more like 1 tool, 30 seconds, and a completely different bolt.  the RH and LH bolts are not identical
03:13 Sgt_Lemming yes, but it's not like you need to change that all that often
03:13 Katemonster at least on the FAMAS you don't need to replace any parts to change handedness.  it also has to do with shooting from cover though.  if you're shooting around a corner to your right, you want the rifle on your left shoulder to keep most of your body behind cover, and you're not going to take it apart in the middle of combat to switch sides.
03:13 Katemonster and yes, the F2000 and the RFB do fix that
03:13 Sgt_Lemming and the p90
03:13 Katemonster yes
03:14 Katemonster but the F2000 scares me from a safety standpoint, and the P90 isn't an infantry rifle, it's a PDW or as i like to call it the "rifle in a lunchbox" market.  SCHV concept applied to submachineguns
03:15 Katemonster the RFB i like but it's fucking *heavy*.  i'm waiting for kel-tec to eventually hopefully come out with the 5.56mm CFB
03:15 Sgt_Lemming meh, still not seeing enough issues to convince me bulllpups are bad
03:16 Sgt_Lemming shorter weapon for same barrel length is a big plus
03:16 * lwq pokes kate
03:16 Sgt_Lemming end of the barrel being closer to you meaning recoil forces have less of an impact on aim is a good thing
03:16 Katemonster for the list of woes i described above, an extra 200fps muzzle velocity (and contrary to popular belief ZERO gain in accuracy) is not worth it, IMO
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03:17 BotSteve Welcome back, boss.
03:17 Sgt_Lemming err, not talking about putting a longer barrel in it
03:17 Sgt_Lemming talking about having the same length barrel, which because the reciever is moved back, the weapon overall is shorter
03:18 Katemonster well yes, that's an option though.  either same OAL and longer barrel, or same barrel and shorter OAL
03:18 Katemonster either way is win
03:18 Katemonster but putting the breech closer to your shoulder doesn't do anything for accuracy.
03:18 * lwq hugs katemonster
03:19 Sgt_Lemming putting the breech doesn't, putting the muzzle does when you have the same length barrel
03:19 Sgt_Lemming simple physics
03:19 Katemonster lowering the bore so that it's inline with your skeleton rather than sitting a few inches above the line of your shoulder = less muzzle rise.  all bullpups fill that role because otherwise you wouldn't be able to get your face behind the sights, but the AR-15 does the exact same thing (which is why it has kind of a ridiculous looking front sight base)
03:20 Sgt_Lemming again, not talking about lowering it, talking about the distance between your shoulder and the muzzle
03:20 Katemonster i know what you're talking about
03:20 Katemonster i think moving the muzzle 6-8" closer to your body.... the impact that has on accuracy is infinitesimal compared to other factors
03:21 Sgt_Lemming for single shots it's less important, for multiple shots or burst it is
03:22 Sgt_Lemming because the lever the gasses have to push the gun up with is a lot shorter, so less force is imparted
03:22 Katemonster no.  for that, lower bore line for less muzzle rise is.  that's exactly why the AR-15 and the SCHV cartridge were designed to begin with; you can put 6 shots in fullauto into COM at 250m from an M16
03:23 Sgt_Lemming lower bore line helps, but so does a shorter overall weapon
03:23 Katemonster the lower bore line and optionally the use of a compensator cancels out any barrel length leverage issues
03:23 Sgt_Lemming so have both = epic win
03:23 Sgt_Lemming compensator adds weight
03:24 Katemonster not really.  you already have a flash hider on any infantry rifle; one of the changes from the M16A1 to the M16A2 was to eliminate the bottom cuts on the flash hider, and now it's a comp.
03:25 Katemonster one of the few changes on the M16A2 that wasn't stupid
03:25 Sgt_Lemming you can still get the same advantage by adding it to a bullpup though, which improves the accuracy further
03:25 Katemonster kdnf;kamg;lkamnsdfhasfdoklja;ldfj     i was supposed to sleep half an hour ago.  fuck.
03:25 Sgt_Lemming heh
03:25 Katemonster not on a practically measurable scale
03:26 Sgt_Lemming yes we are talking 3/5th of fuck all difference here
03:26 Sgt_Lemming and I'd rather go into a building with an aug, than an M16
03:26 Katemonster do a burst group patterning between an M16 and an AUG and you'll find they'll come out about the same
03:26 Katemonster i'd rather go into a building with a shotgun or an MP5/10  :p
03:27 Sgt_Lemming yes given the choice there are a lot of weapons I'd choose before an Aug as a CQB weapon
03:27 Sgt_Lemming but given the choice between an AUG and an M16, AUG wins hands down for CQB
03:28 * BatSteve doesn't care what gun he's carrying, as long as he has ten or fifteen other guys with him, all of whom also have guns
03:28 Katemonster ^
03:28 * Sgt_Lemming puts two claymores behind cover and waits for BatSteve and team to approach
03:28 Katemonster as a general all-purpose rifle, i'd rather have the AR.
03:29 * Katemonster calls an AC-130 on sgt_lemming's position
03:29 BatSteve Rules for surviving a gunfight:  1.  Bring a gun.  Bring another gun.  Bring all your friends who have guns.
03:29 * lwq hugs katemonster
03:29 Katemonster WHY DO YOU KEEP HUGGING ME
03:29 Katemonster don't you have a dog or something
03:29 * Sgt_Lemming calls his friendly Tunguska to deal with the AC130
03:29 lwq no kelly went to sleep and my dog hates me
03:30 Katemonster anyway, i'm serious about I HAVE TO GO SLEEP
03:30 Sgt_Lemming Katemonster, also on the subject of changing mags on the AUG, I've done it, it's fine.
03:30 * Sgt_Lemming installs an annoyotron in Katemonster's bedroom
03:30 Katemonster so have i.  i like conventional layout better
03:30 Sgt_Lemming .g annoyotron
03:30 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/electronic/8c52/
03:30 Katemonster you have to remember something lemming
03:31 Katemonster for the past 12 years
03:31 Katemonster i have been doing *NOTHING*
03:31 Katemonster except studying firearms.
03:31 Sgt_Lemming on things that come down to personal preference, no-one is an expert
03:31 BatSteve Katemonster: go to sleep!
03:32 Katemonster experience does count for something
03:32 * lwq hugs batsteve
03:32 Sgt_Lemming god she's so easy to bait :-P
03:32 lwq lol
03:32 BatSteve .log
03:32 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
03:32 BatSteve (:
03:33 Sgt_Lemming but a lot of what she said, does come down to personal preference, and I have plenty of my own experience
03:33 Sgt_Lemming have carried an AUG for 4 days on a march and fired one quite a bit
03:34 Sgt_Lemming and fired quite a few convetional layout rifles
03:34 Sgt_Lemming bullpup ftw as far as I am concerned
03:38 Toastdude Bye all!
03:39 Sgt_Lemming bye toast
03:39 BatSteve bye Toastdude!
03:39 Sgt_Lemming steve, you see the robot plans?
03:40 BatSteve I saw some of them.
03:41 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/inertial/RobotStuff?authkey=Gv1sRgCNCLrfeiuqPW4AE#5657469197620375634
03:43 BatSteve yep
03:43 BatSteve Saw those
03:43 Sgt_Lemming kk
03:43 Sgt_Lemming having access to the HAAS machines would make those a lot easier to build :-P
03:48 Sgt_Lemming eh, shouldn't be too hard on a manual Mill and Lathe
03:49 Sgt_Lemming especially seeing our mill now has DRO's
04:04 lwq hi
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04:06 BatSteve so long all
04:08 tonsofpcs g'nite
04:08 lwq night
04:08 lwq STEVE....why on so late
04:11 egrsteve con't sleep
04:11 lwq dont blame you
04:12 egrsteve so listening to music/though I would visit here for a few
04:12 lwq not much activity tonight
04:14 egrsteve figures
04:20 lwq its 12am....well it should be a little nore active than this
04:23 lwq tomorrow im going to wake up to gung over my eyes from this cheap contact solution
04:32 * egrsteve is listening to a muse cover on 2 cellos
04:32 lwq cool
04:33 egrsteve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYpIHBqi0Ns&amp;feature=related
04:34 * lwq cant listen becuase brother is in room and doesnt want to untangle headphones
04:35 egrsteve it's instramental only
04:35 lwq cool
04:35 lwq instrumental*
04:36 egrsteve thanks
04:36 egrsteve a bit tired
04:37 lwq ik me too but i see the word alot so ik it off hand
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04:50 lwq night seroster....and egrsteve
04:51 lwq im going to bed
04:51 Seroster Cya lee
04:51 egrsteve night
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05:38 Seroster School time
05:38 Seroster Cya folks
05:38 Seroster And you just pinged out, master0fmonks
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06:37 Cprossu OH GOD
06:38 Cprossu well I guess batman ain't gonna drive that anytime soon
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06:42 Electricguy morning
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06:45 Cprossu .seen egrsteve
06:45 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw egrsteve 1.91 hours ago at 2011-09-29 04:51:12 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:45:31 UTC
06:46 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve watched the cptn's blog today, glad I am not there!
06:46 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
06:54 MadManMarkAu You remind me of the girl
06:54 MadManMarkAu *babe
06:55 * MadManMarkAu waits for a bight
06:55 MadManMarkAu *bite
07:00 MadManMarkAu Blah, attempted Labyrinth reference failed
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07:50 pegasus what babe
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08:40 Sgt_Lemming getting quite a nice collection of desoldered SMT chips on my desk
08:40 Sgt_Lemming including a couple of BGA DDR2 chips
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09:05 Sythen morning all
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09:21 pegasus hey lemming, how many slots on your MC server?
09:22 Sgt_Lemming atm 15
09:22 pegasus 1.8.1?
09:22 Sgt_Lemming yup
09:23 pegasus i've got a farm design that should feed about 16 people easily, if you're cooperative and friendly and all that
09:23 Sgt_Lemming very much so dude
09:24 Sgt_Lemming you know the address?
09:24 pegasus i get lag on your server, but i have it built if you'd like to come take a look
09:24 Sgt_Lemming sure
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12:19 Sythen tis rather dead today
12:21 Xela yep
12:21 Sythen heh, there is life
12:21 Xela yeah, and there's watching BF3 Beta footage
12:21 Sythen ahhh cool
12:22 Xela http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ndz13zUms
12:22 Sythen not a bf3 fan to be honest
12:23 Xela I'm a maniac BF2 fan, mostly because of the "project reality" game conversion mod... But even 'just' vanilla BF2 is still one of my favorite multiplayer FPS
12:23 Xela So I'm pretty excited about BF3...and I'm going to have to get myself a PC that's decent enough to play it
12:23 Sythen i not into war shooters
12:27 Electricguy here are some new pics of the lab computer http://electricguy.imgur.com/egs_lab_computer
12:27 Electricguy 3 new
12:27 Sythen nice
12:27 Xela that is very nice
12:27 Sythen i was dicking with my camera today
12:27 Sythen https://picasaweb.google.com/syth3n/CameraTests?authuser=0&amp;authkey=Gv1sRgCKGI0bKL9qGyJQ&amp;feat=directlink
12:27 Xela was that pc designed to be rack mounted?
12:28 Sythen yup
12:28 Electricguy Xela, yepp
12:29 Xela That's awesome. What are you planning on using it for?
12:29 Electricguy it now serves as a somewhat movable lab computer station :P
12:29 Electricguy for random labbing around
12:29 Electricguy just to plug in power and maybe network and boot it
12:29 Sythen bet it still weighs a metric tonne lol
12:29 Electricguy so i don't have to spend a lot of time to hook everything up
12:29 Xela Yeah, I saw the awesome cabel-clean-up at the back
12:30 Electricguy around 20kg... XD
12:30 Sythen them server chassis are tank like
12:30 Sythen o.O
12:30 Sythen hehe
12:30 Electricguy yeah it's pretty heavy... XDF
12:30 Electricguy but stable as hell :P
12:30 Electricguy the most awesome thing is that the screen runs on 12V from the ATX PSU :)
12:31 Xela love the way you bolted on the keyboard. Nothing says "hacky as hell" as much as that little feature
12:31 Electricguy so only one power socket is needed
12:31 Sythen yup, just power it of a molex D plug
12:31 Xela nice
12:31 Electricguy heheh :P
12:31 Electricguy the hinges are homemade friction hinges :P
12:31 Electricguy so the keyboard and mouse pad are really solid in place when folded down
12:32 Electricguy not any monster performance. but good enough for labbing! :)
12:33 Electricguy 1.8GHz AMD athlon, 1GB RAM, 500GV HDD and a ATI Sapphire Radeon X1600 PRO GPU
12:33 Electricguy and some ASRock mobo i can't remember the model name on
12:33 MadManMarkAu brb, science
12:34 Electricguy i'm thinking about putting a "iWin" sticker on it :P
12:35 Electricguy cause ghetto iMac would be wrong as it's not Mac OS on it :P
12:35 Sythen this is my lump of a chassis
12:35 Sythen https://picasaweb.google.com/117095416668736161460/TechCrap?authkey=Gv1sRgCOj3iq3-usjkfA#5657759068912944066
12:35 Electricguy nice! =)
12:35 * Electricguy got a 19" rack fetish XD
12:35 Sythen hehe
12:36 Sythen i had to remove the 100mm 12v 8watt fan from the front
12:36 Electricguy fyi, your computer there got the same CPU cooler as i got in my lab computer :P
12:36 Sythen arctic feezer pro rev 2
12:36 Electricguy yepp
12:37 Electricguy used to be my primary computer cooler until i upgraded :P
12:37 Electricguy i got a arctic cooling freezer Xtreme now
12:37 Sythen HEHE
12:37 Electricguy almost 3 times as big as the freezer 7 pro XD
12:37 Sythen i dont need anything bigger in this machine
12:37 Sythen its only a core i5 750
12:37 Electricguy oki
12:38 Electricguy i got a overclocked AMD athlon 64 X2 black edition
12:38 Electricguy clocked from 2.8GHz to 3.1GHz
12:38 Sythen my running at the stock 2.66
12:38 Electricguy ok :)
12:38 Electricguy i'm thinking about upgrading my RAM...
12:38 Electricguy got 2GB atm
12:39 Xela It's a pitty that common case designs are all from an era where the CPU was this massively hot thing and your PCI/AGP cards were just passively cooled network cards.
12:39 Electricguy would be nice with more as minecraft takes it all pretty quikcly
12:39 Xela It just doesn't fit with the reality of hot, massive GPUs and efficient CPUs that stay 'cold' even at full load
12:40 Sythen got the standard 4
12:40 Sythen but its nice ddr3
12:40 Electricguy that's why you do casemods! ;)
12:40 Sythen 7-7-7-24
12:40 Electricguy i took a holesaw and made a 120mm hole in the bottom chassie plate to cool the PCI devices better
12:41 Xela Well, it's obviously also a MoBo design thing so you can't just put the GPU wherever you want
12:41 Electricguy i got a shitty fractal design R1 chassie XD
12:41 Sythen hehe nice
12:41 Sythen fractal make good cases
12:41 Electricguy the first thing i did was to rip out the entire harddrive bay! XD
12:41 Sythen the define xl is a beast of a case
12:41 Electricguy cause the total ass to designer couldn't make chassies...
12:41 Sythen heheh
12:42 Electricguy the HDD bay was flipped 90 degrees and mounted like 10mm from the front intake fan! -,-
12:42 Electricguy TOTALLY blocking the airflow
12:42 Sythen heheh yeah
12:42 Sythen major design flaw
12:42 Electricguy so i ripped that out, put the HDDs in the floppy bays instead and got 6C lower CPU temp...
12:42 Electricguy and a more silent computer
12:42 Sythen i wont be recasing my machine till next year
12:43 Electricguy the R2 and R3 chassies are much better
12:43 Sythen ive gotta build the media center first
12:43 Electricguy but i got the R1 for free XD
12:43 Sythen nice price :D
12:43 Electricguy and it's still better than the really crappy ACE of sweden chassie i had before XD
12:44 Sythen i want one of these
12:44 Sythen http://www.ebuyer.com/244231-exdisplay-corsair-600t-case-graphite-series-mid-tower-ebr1-cc600t
12:44 Xela I recently got a completely passive PC (literally not a single fan on that thing) which is kind of cool, but has stone-age components (256MB ram iirc)... Not sure yet if I'm gonna try upgrading or it if I'll just keep it as a proxy/firewall server
12:44 Electricguy hehehehe okey :P
12:44 Electricguy i want a Lian Li chassie
12:44 Electricguy really expensive
12:45 Electricguy but you really get what you pay for
12:45 Sythen i dont like lian li, it screams "LOOK AT ME! IM A POSH TWAT!"
12:45 Sythen i like steel
12:45 Electricguy depends on what model :P
12:45 Sythen brushed aluminium
12:46 Electricguy <3
12:46 Sythen all nicely painted
12:46 Sythen fancy shapeds and sizes
12:46 Sythen i bequeef a boot to the head lol
12:46 Electricguy i want a big square brusked aluminum chassie XD
12:46 Electricguy brushed*
12:47 Electricguy i still like the look of my home server though... XD http://i.imgur.com/dUBAy.jpg
12:47 Sythen NOICE!
12:47 Sythen sun box ftw
12:47 Electricguy it's just the chassie left of the Sun server
12:47 Xela that is cool
12:47 Sythen WTF! ZIP DRIVES! ROFL
12:47 Electricguy PC guts inside
12:47 Electricguy yeah i use the zip drives for really important bacvkup :)
12:47 Sythen thats baddass
12:48 Electricguy it's a 3.2GHz P4 with 1GB RAM
12:48 Electricguy http://i.imgur.com/mHSwG.jpg
12:48 Sythen nice
12:48 Electricguy aaand a video of the status display seen in the picture http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjXRGkloQVo
12:51 Seroster Mrgh
12:55 yNos hiya all
12:55 Electricguy and a pair of new pics of my stereo   http://i.imgur.com/KNtsj.jpg      http://i.imgur.com/jz9Qt.jpg
12:55 Electricguy howdy yNos
12:55 Sythen ello ynos
12:56 yNos i think once i get all my other projects done i am going to make a plasma speaker
12:56 Electricguy oki, that's pretty fun to make :)
12:56 yNos yup
12:56 yNos we have one that is half finished in the hvlab
12:57 yNos and it is tube based ;)
12:57 Electricguy here is one of many that i have made http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlyOv6_7ON8
12:57 Electricguy i spent a lot of time how to figure out how to make a stable arc gap
13:00 Electricguy also worked pretty good as a AM spark transmitter! ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjARCr6HdsY
13:00 Electricguy sorry, FM transmitter
13:03 Electricguy and here is a thing that sadly stopped in the prototype stage http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwIYddOReis
13:03 Electricguy MS-DOS controlled christmas lights
13:05 yNos it would be cool if it could be a cw transmitter also..
13:05 yNos i have lots of crystals to make the primary freq.. then modulate the output to make audio... right?
13:07 Electricguy for a AM or FM transmitter you put out a carrier freq and then audio modulate it
13:07 Electricguy with CW it depends on what type of transmitter you want
13:07 Electricguy either you jusy key out a silent row of pulses
13:07 Electricguy or you audio modulate the pulses
13:08 Sythen whats the weather command?
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13:11 Sythen .weather birmingham uk
13:11 BotSteve Clear ☼, 27℃, 1022mb, Gentle breeze 8kt (↑) - EGBB 12:50Z
13:11 Sythen jesus its warm
13:11 Electricguy .weather kalmar sweden
13:11 BotSteve Clear ☼, 22℃, 1024mb, Gentle breeze 8kt (↑) - ESMQ 12:50Z
13:11 Electricguy sounds pretty reasonable
13:13 Sythen i want rain, snow, and cold already
13:13 Sythen i hate the summer
13:15 Seroster seven hundred million tonnes
13:15 Seroster ...
13:15 Sythen yup
13:15 Seroster Of hydrogen is converted to helium in the sun... Every second.
13:15 Seroster ONE kilo of that hydrogen is equivalent of 20000 tonnes of coal
13:15 Sythen cool beans
13:15 Seroster So
13:16 Seroster 1400 000 000 000  equivallent tonnes of coal every second
13:16 Seroster Fuck thats a lot.
13:16 Sythen yup
13:17 Electricguy i want a PPG Waveterm synth
13:18 Sythen i want ice cream
13:18 Electricguy i got ice cream! ;)
13:18 Sythen fuck you!
13:18 Sythen lol
13:18 Electricguy you don't happen to have a PPG waveterm sytnh? we can trade! :P
13:18 Electricguy synth*
13:18 Sythen why would i have synth gear?
13:19 Electricguy i don't know :P
13:20 Sgt_Lemming Sythen https://picasaweb.google.com/inertial/RobotStuff?authkey=Gv1sRgCNCLrfeiuqPW4AE#5657469197620375634
13:22 yNos http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/180869/14/Huge-waterspout-forms-on-Lake-Huron
13:22 yNos woot
13:22 Sythen ?
13:22 yNos waterspouts.. lake tornados
13:22 yNos cool stuff
13:22 yNos they have a cool shot of it.
13:27 yNos what kind of driver did you use for your plasma speaker?
13:28 * yNos is listening to 7.255mhz
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13:33 Electricguy yNos, you talking to me? :P
13:35 yNos yeah
13:35 Electricguy ahh hehee
13:35 Electricguy the driver was a heavily modded inverter from a ptohotopier :P
13:35 yNos nice
13:36 Electricguy with a IRFP450 MOSFET and a lot of stuff changed on the board to trick the overload circuitry
13:36 yNos what kind of transformer?
13:36 Electricguy a TV flyback
13:36 Electricguy the flyback got pretty warm after a while. hehe
13:37 Electricguy oh. and a tip on how to get much better audio from the speaker
13:37 Electricguy you need a really thick and powerful arc
13:37 Electricguy a big thick white one
13:37 Electricguy otherwise it wont work very good
13:37 yNos girth is more important than length?
13:37 Electricguy as the thickness of the arc is the bandwidth of the sound
13:38 Electricguy the length controls the volume
13:38 Electricguy but like a 10-15mm arc and a horn works good
13:38 Electricguy a horn does a LOT to the output gain
13:39 Electricguy with a thin arc it's just going to dist VERY easily and sound like crap
13:41 yNos iirc, the one at tgg that is partially finished uses a 3-500zg.. so power output shouldne be a problem.
13:41 Electricguy ok :)
13:42 Electricguy mine pulled around 160Watts in operation
13:42 Electricguy to give a approx 12mm arc
13:42 Sythen .weather birmingham uk
13:42 BotSteve Clear ☼, 27℃, 1022mb, Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - EGBB 13:20Z
13:42 yNos .wx grr
13:42 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 55.4℉ (13℃), 29.74in (1004mb), Fog, Light breeze 4kt (↑) - KGRR, 13:33Z
13:43 yNos cool and foggy
13:43 Sythen .tfw birmingham uk
13:43 BotSteve 79°F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN birmingham uk, !  'OPEN A FUCKING WINDOW'
13:43 yNos piss off :P
13:43 Sythen wanna swap?
13:43 yNos YESH
13:43 Electricguy .tfw kalmar sweden
13:43 BotSteve 72°F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN kalmar sweden, !  'WOO, Spring Break!'
13:43 Electricguy lol
13:43 Sythen if you have any rain or snow, gimmie that shit
13:43 Electricguy effin true XD
13:44 yNos i just wish it would go straight from 80F to 10F
13:44 yNos great riding weather to great riding weather.
13:44 yNos instead of this wet cappy bd
13:44 yNos **bs
13:44 yNos I WANT ICE ON THE LAKES!
13:47 yNos i need to get a better camera than what i on this crappy blackberry.
13:47 yNos http://ynos.us/desk-in-annies-room.jpg
13:48 Sythen blurcam GO!
13:49 yNos serving it up over 128K dsl!
13:50 Sythen LOL
13:50 yNos WOOT
13:50 yNos i need to put a loop up in the attic.
13:51 yNos something to play with
13:52 Sythen this is my main boxx
13:52 Sythen https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/HDInbBGEauSRBMM2tAaTxbAqmL_4ISCbkdsqqymPPxY?feat=directlink
14:07 Electricguy half bad picture of my CPU cooler XD http://i.imgur.com/seGsm.jpg
14:09 Electricguy and also, just for the geekyness i have changed skin and icons in XP so it looks like ubuntu XD http://i.imgur.com/YBIId.png
14:10 Xela that's ....unique...
14:17 Electricguy yNos, nice old ham radio! :D
14:17 yNos thanks
14:17 yNos i <3 my heathkit
14:17 Electricguy vacuum tubes = <3 :P
14:17 yNos nice wide filters make voices sound more natural
14:17 yNos it is a sb-102
14:18 Electricguy the radios i got atm is a icom IC-R70 a puxing 777 plus and a Ra200 (sweish military tube radio) :)
14:18 Electricguy swedish*
14:18 yNos not really a cw rig.. at least as far as the filters go, but it is a nice rag chewing rig
14:18 Electricguy hehehe okey :D
14:18 Electricguy nice :)
14:19 yNos i have an alinco dw-70th and an icom ic2100
14:19 Electricguy okey! :)
14:19 Electricguy nice
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14:23 yNos do you play with psk/rtty at all?
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14:23 yNos or are you mainly a vhf guy?
14:25 yNos do you have the generator for the RA200?
14:26 pegasus so i'm adding syntax highlighting to my online source viewer
14:26 pegasus http://pegasus.pimpninjas.org/cgi-bin/view-source2.pl?perl/dcx.pl
14:27 pegasus it can't deal with regex broken across lines, but it's pretty damned good anyway
14:29 Electricguy yNos, i play around a little with PSK and some VHF
14:29 Electricguy a little of everything :P
14:30 Electricguy and yeah i got PSUs and everything for the Ra200
14:30 Electricguy heh, now we're talking camera specs! http://www.nonags.com/funimg/5tpix.jpg
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15:06 wannabe-afk if a pedestrian gets hit by a semi going 55-70mph, is there anything left of the pedestrian?  and why is the pedestrian on the highway?!
15:06 wannabe-afk anyway, gtg now
15:10 yNos HAHAHAHA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN0254u56Mc
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15:28 Seroster LOL
15:28 Seroster Sparky!
15:28 SparkyProjects :)
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15:29 Seroster This GFI
15:29 Seroster Sufferd a fatal ground fault
15:30 SparkyProjects How did you kill it ?
15:30 Seroster I didnt
15:30 Seroster Found in garbage
15:30 Seroster Autopsy
15:30 SparkyProjects ah, now you know why it was in the garbage
15:31 Seroster Indeed yes =P
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15:44 * angy pokes Seroster
15:46 Seroster No need to poke
15:46 angy I like, with a poky stick, in the eye
15:50 angy I can also tickle you
15:52 * Seroster does the IRC equivalent of a kick in the nuts on angy
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16:05 Seroster I really dont get whats fun about RW.
16:05 Seroster RWJ*
16:07 SparkyProjects RWJ ?
16:07 Seroster Raywilliam J
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16:20 yNos suicide much? http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kent_county/accident-on-highway-september-29-2011
16:43 Sythen heh
16:43 Sythen splat
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16:49 * Experimentonomen yawns
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17:18 Seroster Fucken pizza!
17:18 Sythen lol
17:19 Seroster Delicious
17:19 astro73|derrial Turducken pizza?
17:19 Seroster No?
17:24 Sythen cannon?
17:30 * yNos feels clean!
17:31 yNos just took a shower..
17:31 Sythen lol
17:31 angy that can have that effect
17:31 Sythen im gonna take one soon
17:31 Sythen i need to cool down
17:31 angy time to call the airline, I know have a 30kg luggage and 22kg one, will it pass?
17:32 Sythen if only you could rar it
17:32 angy I'd prefer 7ziping :)
17:33 yNos leave it at home
17:33 yNos fly naked
17:33 yNos just dont spend too much time in the bathroom
17:33 angy home is the other side of the pond now
17:45 yNos back to france?
17:45 angy Yep
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17:48 Sgt_Lemming grrr, fscking endermen
17:52 westmi Sgt_Lemming notch is removing that enderman ability in 1.9
17:52 ajprog_laptop angy you in?
17:53 angy yep
17:53 westmi He acknowledged that was a bad idea
17:53 Sgt_Lemming heh
17:53 Sgt_Lemming it's freaking annoying
17:58 Sythen the ability that allows them to teleport?
18:01 Sgt_Lemming no, the one where they remove blocks
18:01 Sythen oh!
18:01 Sythen yeah
18:01 Sythen that was annoying as piss
18:06 yNos Sythen: what kind of router is that on your cafebook?
18:06 angy and for the mine craft addicts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfKtrGczyBs
18:06 yNos facebook even, i guess
18:07 Sythen its a lil netgear POS i found
18:07 yNos looks like they were nice enough to put serial headers on it for you.
18:07 Sythen heheh
18:07 Sythen yup
18:08 Sythen its scrap anyway
18:08 Sythen i just needed something is a focal point
18:08 yNos does it not boot?
18:08 Sythen it boots
18:08 Sythen the main wan socket is fubar
18:09 ajprog_laptop yNos: you at tgg?
18:09 yNos not yet
18:09 yNos ddoes it look like it has usb headers?
18:09 Sythen it dosent
18:10 yNos ajprog_laptop: did that ftp imaging thing work?
18:10 ajprog_laptop that is what I was going to ask you :)
18:11 ajprog_laptop I have meetings out in allendale so I am going to stay out here
18:11 angy $
18:11 yNos sounds goof
18:11 yNos **good
18:11 yNos i will give it a try when i get there.
18:11 ajprog_laptop angy: ??? are you giving out money?
18:11 yNos which bootdisk did you use?
18:12 yNos or.. is it still in that machine?
18:12 angy if you're really nice, I may :)
18:12 ajprog_laptop still in that machine
18:17 angy ajprog_laptop: I'l treat you to drink in a month =)
18:18 ajprog_laptop :)
18:18 yNos what was the name of the app to do the imaging?
18:23 Seroster Anyhow
18:24 Seroster I was at the dumpster today, getting rid of my expansion tank
18:24 Seroster Ran into a "friend" - who offered to give me his printer
18:24 Seroster So I accepted
18:24 Seroster And I got a fax/printer/copyer
18:24 Seroster With...
18:24 yNos so i wonder what they will be doing at fermilab from now on... http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/09/as-its-tevatron-collider-goes-dark-fermilab-ponders-a-muon-rich-future.ars
18:24 Seroster A TONER cartridge!
18:24 Seroster YAY!
18:24 Seroster )D
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18:27 mashpriborintorg hi
18:27 yNos looks like fermilab wants to make a muon collider.
18:28 yNos too bad we cant get there tomorrow
18:28 angy you want to steal the collider?
18:28 Seroster Fucking HP
18:28 Seroster ARGH
18:28 mashpriborintorg equipment autopsy: particle accelerator yay
18:29 mashpriborintorg Seroster: my 1973 HP calculator works just like new
18:29 mashpriborintorg :D
18:29 angy we could build q small scale accelerator, it's not that complicated
18:29 Seroster They havent made anything worht the money since 1973
18:29 * wannabe-afk thinks michigan skipped a season. SERIOUSYL
18:29 wannabe-afk LY*
18:30 mashpriborintorg now HP only make crap, they turned over around 2YK
18:31 mashpriborintorg *Y2K
18:33 yNos i dont really know what goes into an accelerator, but would be interested to try.
18:34 * yNos is hungry
18:34 angy let's talk about it in like, a month?
18:34 yNos time to find foodstuff
18:34 wannabe1987 mmmm food
18:34 yNos sounds good
18:36 angy time to go to the last meeting in canada!
18:37 angy see ya!
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18:42 wannabe1987 wb SparkyProjects
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18:51 wannabe1987 hi Xela.  is your forum acct working? ( are you able to post)
18:51 Xela Not sure yet,let me check
18:51 astro73|derrial tornado sirens.
18:51 wannabe1987 where?
18:51 wannabe1987 i don't hear none....
18:52 astro73|derrial no, the blog
18:52 wannabe1987 o
18:52 Xela they cause tornadoes. <- that's what you learn from watching the captain's blog XD
18:52 astro73|derrial greek sirens call greeks. Tornado sirens call tornados.
18:52 Xela Mh, doesn't look like I'm able to post/reply. Or does the forum use 1x1px reply buttons? ^^
18:53 astro73|derrial that's got to go on the list of great boden  moments.
18:53 wannabe1987 Xela let me look
18:53 wannabe1987 yesterdays blog astro73|derrial?
18:53 astro73|derrial the most recent one
18:54 wannabe1987 Xela no....
18:54 Xela Well, in that case I'm still unable to post :)
18:55 astro73|derrial you logged in?
18:55 Xela yes
18:56 Xela Btw, talking about things that don't work: Is the livestream down?
18:58 mashpriborintorg I believe that the stream computer is fried
18:59 Xela aw, that sucks
18:59 mashpriborintorg cprossu or steve should give the details
19:00 astro73|derrial oh man
19:00 wannabe1987 seriously?
19:01 wannabe1987 that sucks!
19:02 astro73|derrial pooched like the transmission?
19:03 * wannabe1987 just started watching the blog....
19:03 wannabe1987 the poor pool table
19:04 wannabe1987 ooo waves on lake mi to hit 14-18 feet.  i wish i had gas to get there!
19:06 wannabe1987 i like how he looked at BA when talking about the broken window....
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19:13 wannabe1987 seriously?  you drove a car w/o drain plug in the tranny?
19:15 yNos i looked at it yesterday
19:15 yNos the drain plug is still there and doesnt look like it has been moved in some time
19:15 wannabe1987 ...
19:15 wannabe1987 then how?
19:15 yNos they were taking the crackead's words
19:16 yNos dont know if anything is wrong iwth it.
19:16 wannabe1987 why is there no tranny in the truck?
19:16 yNos crackhead took it out because he thinks it borked
19:17 wannabe1987 ...
19:17 yNos anyway.. time to head down to the lab
19:17 yNos later all
19:17 Sgt_Lemming heh, that's an awesome bit of history referencing in B5
19:18 wannabe1987 bye yNos|Away
19:18 Sgt_Lemming Jack The ripper was abducted by aliens, and is now an inquisitor for an alien race 400 years in the future
19:18 wannabe1987 ...
19:18 Sgt_Lemming not to mention, his name is Sebastien... not Jack
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19:48 astro73|derrial Sgt_Lemming: the vorlon inquisitor?
19:48 astro73|derrial yeah
19:48 astro73|derrial good stuff
19:53 wannabe1987 why?!
19:53 wannabe1987 can i go zap mark zuckerburg?
19:53 wannabe1987 with gemini please?!
19:53 wannabe1987 shock these ideas out of him
19:54 astro73|derrial wannabe1987: I'm just getting off facebook in general.
19:54 wannabe1987 i saw your post about that
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19:54 wannabe1987 tlockley!
19:54 tlockley yo
19:54 wannabe1987 sup
19:55 tlockley just trying to find some cad software for mac
19:55 tlockley so i can design a drive adapter
19:55 astro73|derrial soup? soup sounds good
19:55 tlockley never really been a soup fan
19:55 wannabe1987 i'm making soup tonight, astro73|derrial
19:55 astro73|derrial mmm tasty
19:55 wannabe1987 how you read my mind?  its not posted on fb yet.....
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19:57 astro73|derrial it's a gift
19:57 wannabe1987 but i also want warm homemade bread, but i don't have room in my freezer for loaves....maybe i'll stick them in moms freezer :D
19:57 wannabe1987 i'm sure it helps with girl
19:57 astro73|derrial mhm
19:58 astro73|derrial I'm going to have to make my soup for people, but I think it could use a bigger pot.
19:58 astro73|derrial a whole chicken can make a lot of soup
19:58 wannabe1987 o.O
19:58 wannabe1987 i'm doing a veggie soup it turns out
19:58 wannabe1987 and no, ruth doesn't have a stock pot :(
19:58 wannabe1987 hmmmm
19:58 astro73|derrial I just use the biggest pot we have
19:58 wannabe1987 we only have two sauce pans
19:58 wannabe1987 :S
19:59 Sythen im rather happy with this heheh
19:59 Sythen https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/-bE_VjwjljMKjb9Z_xk7ADx5nlF1ArSHSPewm4zk3fQ?feat=directlink
19:59 astro73|derrial oh
19:59 wannabe1987 saw it on fb
19:59 astro73|derrial is one of them big?
19:59 astro73|derrial or biggish
19:59 Sythen lol, you really are a FB addict arnt you wannabe1987
19:59 wannabe1987 nope.  but ruths getting up soon (its 4, her alarm went off) i'll ask her if she has one hidden somewhere
20:00 wannabe1987 i wonder if i could make it in the crock pot....but use the stove for cooking the veggies
20:00 wannabe1987 no, Sythen, itj ust popped up
20:00 Sythen lol
20:00 Sythen lucky
20:01 astro73|derrial Sythen: what OS is that running?
20:01 Sythen windows 7
20:01 astro73|derrial ok
20:01 Sythen why?
20:01 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos:
20:01 BotSteve Fine Tuning/Upgrading Project Gemini http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh050TdmcRs
20:01 astro73|derrial it looked like chrome full-screen, so I was slightly confused
20:01 Sythen nah
20:02 Sythen youtube on the left
20:02 Sythen youtube on the right
20:02 Sythen typically irc is on the left, constantly
20:02 astro73|derrial that's a lot of IRC
20:03 Sythen connected to 2 networks constantly
20:03 wannabe1987 my irc is always on top right bottom
20:03 astro73|derrial I don't leave my IRC open most of the time; i'm too easily distracted
20:03 wannabe1987 lol
20:06 Sythen i need irc, everywhere
20:06 angy addict
20:06 Sythen yup
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20:09 wannabe1987 same
20:09 * wannabe1987 pokes exor674
20:11 astro73|derrial should I make a bot that will txt you when you get mentioned?
20:12 tlockley i kind would like that
20:12 tlockley *kinda
20:12 tlockley what would you use for a sms gateway?
20:14 astro73|derrial dunno. I could use the provider-specific email address. I could use a hacked-together phone (and charge people for the texts)
20:15 tlockley what is your local astro73|derrial
20:15 astro73|derrial my local what?
20:15 astro73|derrial 127.0.0.1?
20:15 tlockley *locale
20:15 tlockley us, euro?
20:16 astro73|derrial us, local to LSL
20:16 tlockley i remember finding a google voice api that could be useful
20:16 tlockley free SMS
20:17 astro73|derrial hm. I'll look. Google is often my friend.
20:17 Sythen http://www.geek.com/articles/chips/zotac-launches-pci-directx-11-graphics-card-for-legacy-systems-20110929/
20:17 tlockley well i was working on greating a sms gateway for my HvZ engine that i built for college
20:18 astro73|derrial HvZ?
20:18 astro73|derrial oh, zombies
20:18 tlockley you guys call it ZOmb, but its Humans vs. Zombies...
20:18 tlockley more story line based not just run and gun
20:19 tlockley but the idea was to allow kill reporting over sms so that people didnt need to go find a computer to record a feed
20:20 astro73|derrial nice
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20:20 tlockley never really got that far though, spent too much time implimenting other strange features
20:20 tlockley and just bug fixing
20:21 astro73|derrial lol
20:21 astro73|derrial strangely, i rarely have to spend a whole lot of time fixing bugs
20:22 astro73|derrial it's all the little features that make production software that bogs me down
20:22 tlockley well the issue was that there is lots of really strange edgecases that i needed to support that just constatly fucks everything else up
20:22 astro73|derrial like what?
20:23 tlockley well an original zombie is hidden untill they reach x kills or after y hours
20:23 tlockley but they also wanted to have multiple OZs
20:23 astro73|derrial oh
20:23 tlockley plus i need to check if the game is in progress and if the person can be killed
20:24 tlockley so all these cases just constatnly need to be fucked with
20:24 astro73|derrial actually, i think what you really want is something like a laser tag system
20:25 tlockley well what I need to do is sit down with the game admin and just go over every game case and just try and make the system as generic as possible
20:26 astro73|derrial and youtube is failing. Giving me 500's and 502's
20:27 astro73|derrial but the 500's give me a nice base64 blob
20:27 Sythen same issue here astro73|derrial
20:27 tlockley yt has been fucked all day
20:27 Xela oh, yeah, youtube is not performing too well
20:27 Electricguy a more suitable desktop wallpaper for my lab computer... XD http://i.imgur.com/mQkrf.jpg
20:28 tlockley classy Electricguy
20:28 Electricguy :P
20:28 tlockley love the XP zune theme BTW
20:28 astro73|derrial http://paste2.org/p/1679676 have fun geeks!
20:28 Electricguy yeah it's nice
20:28 Sythen this is mine Electricguy
20:28 Sythen http://1d4chan.org/images/thumb/4/49/Angry_Marine_Desktop.jpg/800px-Angry_Marine_Desktop.jpg
20:29 Electricguy and for those who don't understand the iWin logo... http://electricguy.imgur.com/egs_lab_computer
20:29 Electricguy lol @ sythen
20:29 SparkyProjects I use XP zune too, even better if you have a mainly bllack background and no icons showing
20:29 Sythen royale noir
20:29 Electricguy i use a ubuntu theme atm
20:30 Electricguy had to install a patcher to use 3rd party themes
20:30 tlockley my fave was back in the days of os x 10.4 you could hide the dock and with a special app hide the menubar
20:30 tlockley people always though my mac has crashed
20:32 astro73|derrial wow. you know it's bad when google has an outage this bad.
20:32 astro73|derrial and I bet youtube is one of their bacon-bringers
20:32 Electricguy my current theme http://i.imgur.com/YBIId.png
20:32 astro73|derrial Electricguy: delicious irony
20:33 Sythen meh, i dont like ubuntu's gui
20:33 tlockley yah, but atleast the core google services still work
20:33 Electricguy hate linux, like the look :P
20:33 tlockley xmonad or dwm for me
20:33 Electricguy Sythen, it's not your computer...
20:34 Sythen i know
20:35 Electricguy so, i don't give a shit if you don't like the ubuntu gui
20:35 Sythen no need to be agressive
20:35 Sythen i dont like ubunuts gui, oh well
20:35 Electricguy i'm not agressive...
20:36 astro73|derrial oh good. I got YT back
20:37 wannabe1987 where did it go?
20:38 Electricguy was never gone for me
20:38 Sythen A CNN reporter, while interviewing a marine sniper asked "what do you feel when you shoot a terrorist?". The marine shrugged and replied: "Recoil."
20:38 astro73|derrial wannabe1987: no idea. Google didn't know where it went, either.
20:38 wannabe1987 o.O
20:38 wannabe1987 Sythen lol
20:41 astro73|derrial Sythen: nice.
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20:44 astro73|derrial wannabe1987: when making your own stock, is using cheesecloth important?
20:44 astro73|derrial i never do
20:44 wannabe1987 i think so.  i've never made stock....its supposed to be used to get impurities out
20:45 astro73|derrial i gathered. I just use a strainer spoon, since I have nothing to pour into
20:46 astro73|derrial of course, I also use the betty crocker recipe as base
20:46 wannabe1987 i wouldn't know
20:47 wannabe1987 i'm horrible and use stuff in a can cuz its easier righ tnow
20:47 wannabe1987 if i had a bigger kitchen/better stove (theres one burner that works....) i'd make my own
20:48 astro73|derrial making your own stock is easier. Get whole chicken, veggies. Boil for a while
20:48 astro73|derrial *easy
20:48 wannabe1987 i know.  but then i have to use the chicken....
20:48 wannabe1987 normally i use frozen chickn.
20:49 astro73|derrial ah
20:50 wannabe1987 i don't even know why i attempt to cook before ruth leaves  :sigh:
20:50 astro73|derrial *shrug*
20:51 wannabe1987 she wants me to cook for her, then takes up the kitchen *and* the only working coil on the stove
20:51 wannabe1987 WHY IS THE STOVE BROKED
20:51 tlockley oh how i hate electric cook tops
20:51 wannabe1987 why is there only one working coil?
20:51 wannabe1987 i don't understand
20:51 wannabe1987 if its broken, have maint fix it.
20:51 wannabe1987 or have them get you a new stove
20:52 astro73|derrial get a meter? then you can find out if it's the coil
20:52 wannabe1987 its what they're there for, fixing shit
20:52 astro73|derrial or just ask the apt guys to do it
20:52 wannabe1987 but i can't ask them to do stuff, i'm not living here....
20:52 astro73|derrial k
20:53 astro73|derrial and ruth sleeps all day
20:53 wannabe1987 yes
20:53 wannabe1987 and then goes to work
20:54 wannabe1987 and then comes hom and sleeps
20:54 wannabe1987 and then yeah
20:54 wannabe1987 she sleeps till 4
20:56 astro73|derrial until her class finishes
20:57 wannabe1987 class ends soonish....her m/w class. she has another class on fridays
20:57 astro73|derrial hey! you're in a video
20:57 wannabe1987 me
20:57 wannabe1987 ?
20:57 wannabe1987 o.O
20:57 wannabe1987 which one?
20:57 astro73|derrial the latest main channel
20:58 astro73|derrial but like 18min in
20:58 wannabe1987 tgg not physicsduck?
20:58 astro73|derrial tgg
20:58 wannabe1987 k
20:59 wannabe1987 why so long of videos!!!! :P
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20:59 wannabe1987 ah i rmember this :P
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21:00 tlockley tgg needs more NLE staff
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21:00 Xela wannabe: which one are you? (just watching the video right now)
21:00 wannabe1987 i don't know how to NLE other wise i would
21:00 wannabe1987 i'm finding me....hold on Xela
21:00 wannabe1987 1) i'm girl
21:01 tlockley do you have a decent computer at home wannabe1987 ?
21:01 wannabe1987 2) i'm wearing a white shirt, pushing in the back by eakin.  black under shirt
21:01 astro73|derrial NLE?
21:01 wannabe1987 tlockley NO
21:01 wannabe1987 non=linear edit(ing)
21:02 astro73|derrial i can only do fundamentals
21:02 tlockley just the netbook?
21:02 wannabe1987 tlockley my computer is from 2006 and its a dell.  it has 1gb ram and has issues w/ YT sometimes
21:02 wannabe1987 theres also the netbook
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21:02 wannabe1987 thats not used much righ tnow
21:02 tlockley NLE is mostly about application of findamentals
21:02 angy my main computer is for 2007 (:
21:03 wannabe1987 this one was bought at tgg
21:03 tlockley its the CGI that takes skill
21:03 wannabe1987 its still registered to them....
21:03 tlockley lol
21:03 astro73|derrial I took a telecom class in hs, we used imovie iirc
21:03 tlockley old or new>
21:03 wannabe1987 in college i learned how to make webpages w/ dreamweaver
21:03 wannabe1987 i don't remember anything
21:03 tlockley wannabe1987: ewwwwwwwwww
21:03 wannabe1987 i would assume old, hs was a while ago
21:04 astro73|derrial tlockley: 2004 i want to say?
21:04 tlockley that was when imovie was good
21:04 tlockley none of this imovie 2010/11/12 BS
21:04 wannabe1987 jr year hs?
21:04 astro73|derrial frosh?
21:04 tlockley i absoluetly hate the new imovie/fcp timeline setup
21:04 wannabe1987 o.O
21:05 wannabe1987 i was a jr in 04....
21:05 NeWtoz youngin
21:05 NeWtoz I guess by only a year
21:06 astro73|derrial I only graduated in 2007
21:06 tlockley dmn you all make me feel young
21:06 wannabe1987 ahhh 2 yr difference....
21:06 NeWtoz '04 woot
21:06 wannabe1987 lol
21:06 tlockley '09
21:06 * angy graduated (another time) a week ago :p
21:06 wannabe1987 lol
21:06 astro73|derrial tlockley: the bigger problem would be i have very little artistic talent
21:07 tlockley me too
21:07 tlockley that why i program and occasionally do some NLE stuff
21:07 tlockley you dont need to be an artist to do good NLE work, you just need to be percise
21:08 astro73|derrial I would help with programming more, but I don't have consistent time
21:08 tlockley and have a good grasp of what you are cutting together
21:08 astro73|derrial (school school school)
21:08 tlockley i need to get back into code again. stoped cause of work
21:08 tlockley but now, no work
21:08 astro73|derrial code is your friend
21:08 tlockley being unemployed sucks hardcore
21:09 wannabe1987 agreed
21:09 wannabe1987 and astro73|derrial, no, no its not
21:09 tlockley which reminds me i need to apply for unemployment tomorrow
21:09 angy me too, but not tomorrow
21:10 tlockley yah here in mass, there are only specific days you can apply according to your social security number
21:10 angy sounds (not) fun
21:10 wannabe1987 ....
21:11 tlockley the people on the phone service are massive assholes
21:12 wannabe1987 lol
21:12 wannabe1987 they deal with it day in and day out and empathy goes BYE BYE
21:12 angy it's usual for a phone service
21:13 tlockley yah, but i dont need empathy i just need someone who is able to clearly speak on the phone and describe in relative detail what they want
21:13 tlockley not someone who just mumbles into the phone assuming i understand them
21:13 wannabe1987 lol
21:15 astro73|derrial wannabe1987: sure you like code! Just not writing it.
21:15 wannabe1987 yes.  that
21:15 wannabe1987 i LOVE code
21:15 wannabe1987 and i love coders
21:15 wannabe1987 i just don't want to be them :D
21:15 Xela lol
21:16 Xela antiprogrammism?
21:16 wannabe1987 they can do all the work, i'll just reap benefits :D
21:16 wannabe1987 no, lack of patience :D
21:16 tlockley hehe
21:16 wannabe1987 searching through code for 2-3 hours finding bugs.  no thanks
21:16 * Xela is studying Computer Science :P
21:16 Xela quite literally just started though
21:16 wannabe1987 you still young then
21:16 tlockley i am thinkg of droping CS and getting a MIS degree
21:17 tlockley i just cant stand all the fucking theory
21:17 wannabe1987 MIS?
21:17 tlockley management info systems
21:17 tlockley i am the implimenter of the CS dweebs
21:17 Xela compared with the average person appearing in tgg videos: yeah, being 20 probably makes me "young" ;)
21:17 Xela Oh, the theory...yeah...sitting here playing around with analysis
21:17 wannabe1987 ah.  i had a friend go into information assurance/computer security from depaul
21:18 tlockley mostly i just need to coast through college so that i have a piece of paper that says i am smart
21:18 wannabe1987 he's now working down town chicago
21:18 wannabe1987 angy!  you could look in chicago for work.  its 3 hours from GR!
21:19 masterofmonks Hmm RCVR looks quite compelling.
21:20 wannabe1987 rcvr?
21:20 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylu-uCR4ZZI&amp;list=SL
21:21 Xela Talking about CS and theory: Somebody want to tell me how to show (apparently no precise mathematical proof is necessary) that the cardinality of ℕ is the same as the cardinality of ℚ?
21:23 angy they two are countable infinities
21:26 NeWtoz oh that is one math class I really didn't like
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21:26 angy you can show there is a finite infinity of members of Q between each members of N, the demonstration is just in like 2 lines but IO don't remember it
21:27 tlockley alrigh that is the last straw. OS X Lion is the buggy piece of shit ever made
21:27 tlockley *buggiest
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21:28 wannabe1987 my friend just upgraded to lion, she's not impressed
21:28 tlockley_ nothing works
21:28 tlockley_ my express card audio interface still doesent work
21:29 tlockley_ finder crashes all the time
21:29 tlockley_ system wide autocorrec tis a horible idea
21:29 wannabe1987 and she's going back to haiti today....
21:29 angy I have a really annoying but with it that I need to open 2-3 time each document for them to /load/
21:29 wannabe1987 i wanted to find her a website listing how to do things, but idk where to find that
21:29 tlockley_ how to fix the lion BS?
21:29 tlockley_ cause the only option is to install Snow Leopard
21:30 astro73|derrial is lion apple's vista?
21:30 tlockley_ without a doubt
21:30 wannabe1987 not how to fix it, but how to do simple things....
21:30 tlockley_ almost every legacy 10.6 product is hopelessly broken in 10.7
21:31 wannabe1987 like finding the top of the page (something she listed)
21:31 tlockley_ command up arrow to go to the top of a page
21:31 angy very sad thing is that I now need 10.7 to run some apps that are build against 10.7 APIs ><
21:31 tlockley what apps angy ?
21:31 astro73|derrial i'm worried win8 will be the same
21:31 angy hardcore medical systems
21:32 astro73|derrial ok, more wondering
21:32 astro73|derrial i don't actually care what M$ screws up
21:32 tlockley why would you build medical software agains unproven tech?
21:33 tlockley astro73|derrial: i think the issue people will have with win8 is that is is almost too tablet friendly
21:33 astro73|derrial angy: you mean the not life-threatening software?
21:33 wannabe1987 too tablet friendly?
21:33 angy they can be life-thratening as we use them to prepare surgeries for patients
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21:33 tlockley hey steve
21:33 Toastdude Hi
21:33 angy Hi Steve
21:33 angy Tooooooast!
21:33 Toastdude Steve!
21:33 * angy hugs Toastdude
21:34 Toastdude Angy!
21:34 * Toastdude hugs angy
21:34 egrsteve hello angy and toastdude
21:34 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
21:34 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
21:34 astro73|derrial angy: but it's not like that one radiation bug
21:34 wannabe1987 TOAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:34 angy and these softs exists either for windows or Macos
21:34 Toastdude WANNABE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:34 egrsteve I killed botsteve
21:34 tlockley tee hee
21:34 angy if you crash when you have your patient in a PT-Scan, that can be fun
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21:34 egrsteve hello
21:35 * wannabe1987 noms on Toastdude, i'm hungry
21:35 angy egrsteve: you killed the bot!
21:35 wannabe1987 ....
21:35 astro73|derrial BatSteve-Away: BOTSTEVE HAS BUGS!
21:35 egrsteve well so much for  getting my message
21:35 egrsteve i wonder what it was
21:35 egrsteve hmm, to the log
21:35 angy a blank line?
21:35 astro73|derrial it should store that persistently
21:35 tlockley angy, what happens when the comp crashes durring a PT?
21:36 angy it depend, either it stops in safe-mode or it continue waiting for the next input for the computer
21:36 egrsteve it wont let me send a "/null?
21:36 egrsteve "
21:36 astro73|derrial a patient on a bed in a big donut, wondering what's going on
21:36 angy it's controlled via a cluster, it really depend which part of the cluster crashes
21:36 tlockley interesting
21:37 angy BotSteve: tell egrsteve \0
21:37 BotSteve angy: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
21:37 tlockley angy what in the 10.7 API is good for what you do?
21:37 tlockley is it just the SMP /GCD stuff?
21:38 angy I have no idea at all
21:38 tlockley or OpenCL/CUDA?
21:38 angy I think it's opencl related, but I really did not check into it
21:38 angy GCD was added in 10.5 or 10.6 on that soft
21:38 tlockley well not that it really matters to me
21:38 tlockley yah GCD was added in 10.5 but no one really used it besides apple
21:39 astro73|derrial GCD?
21:39 tlockley grand central dispatch
21:39 tlockley apples take on multi core support
21:39 angy the last version add a huge improvement for the 3D vision and 3D reconstruction
21:39 angy so I think it's openCL related
21:39 tlockley yah the 3d is most likely openCL
21:39 tlockley for me, i do lots of audio so i must have my audio cards working
21:40 angy it's nice, but I find it useless I have my own 3D reconstruction algorithm
21:40 tlockley nifty
21:40 tlockley but either way, 10.7 is not for me
21:41 tlockley i like being on the bleeding edge but it truely is not worth the support headaches
21:41 egrsteve so message that crashed botsteve was from cprossu
21:41 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
21:41 BotSteve At 21:37Z, angy asked me to tell egrsteve \0
21:41 astro73|derrial Cprossu crashes BotSteve?
21:41 angy There, I sent you a null
21:41 egrsteve thanks
21:42 angy I was to move back to 10.6 just when I got the update for that damn soft
21:42 egrsteve int main void return 0;
21:42 angy how was it to receive a null message?
21:42 egrsteve exciting
21:42 angy :)
21:42 egrsteve how you like my latest C program
21:42 astro73|derrial void main (void){}
21:43 egrsteve classy
21:43 astro73|derrial thank you
21:43 angy lovely, you should prepare me a nice one like that for when I'll be there
21:45 astro73|derrial i wonder what would happen if you tried:
21:45 astro73|derrial void _start(void){}
21:45 angy and now I kind of feel like I shouldn't have updated my macbook to 10.7 as well
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21:45 * angy hugs Toastdude
21:46 * Toastdude hugs angy
21:46 tlockley well if you have to support and run stuff with the 10.7 API then thats a bummer
21:46 astro73|derrial oh, right. segfault. YOu have to call _exit. *glare*
21:46 Toastdude :D
21:46 astro73|derrial http://www.muppetlabs.com/~breadbox/software/tiny/teensy.html
21:46 tlockley also what the hell network, where did my 50Mbyte/s transfer go
21:46 angy I don't really have to run them on my laptop, but I did update...
21:47 tlockley for me the three finder crashes followed by a kernel panic was the lsat straw
21:48 tlockley the only time i have ever KPd by mac on 10.6 was when i accidentally yanked the express card i was using mid session
21:48 Xela oh wow, that's somer serious program optimization.... 45bytes is insane
21:49 angy I had a few of them, but they are usually triggered by my weird coding
21:50 tlockley well thats normal when you are sholder deep in crazy obj-c guts
21:50 angy I don't do obj-c, I stopped ad C99 and still use it
21:50 tlockley cool
21:50 angy I never understand why obj-c is sooo cooooool
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21:51 tlockley because its pure c with a OOP and a dash of smalltalk for good luck
21:51 astro73|derrial angy: unusual OOP
21:51 angy :)
21:51 angy I don't really do OOP
21:52 ajprog_laptop even php is OOP
21:52 tlockley if you bother to do it
21:52 angy in php, I do it, in C I don't really do it
21:53 tlockley i find that OOP in php is kina un-nesicary
21:53 Xela because it would just be too easy to use one of the two more common OO versions of C, and apple probably likes not being mainstream/forcing people to learn another f***ing c-based language
21:53 angy in fact, I use PHP as pricedural, not as OO
21:53 astro73|derrial C doesn't do OOP
21:53 tlockley not natively
21:53 astro73|derrial PHP is often unnecessary
21:53 tlockley c is procedural hardcore
21:53 angy yep
21:54 tlockley i like php cause it will run on any host
21:54 ajprog_laptop if you want OOP you usually work with C++ or C#
21:54 tlockley never understood the appeal of c#
21:54 tlockley or .net for that matter
21:54 angy never got any need for C++ C#
21:54 ajprog_laptop it is for .NET and its libraries
21:54 angy as I don't do any gui prog
21:55 tlockley the only gui i do is HTML/JS and even then i try and get someone else to do it
21:55 astro73|derrial I do not like C++. It's a strange mix of low and high level. And I would use C# if I ever did any .NET
21:55 * angy is trying to have ajprog_laptop do his gui
21:56 ajprog_laptop nope, I am just to doing the backend intergration
21:56 tlockley you all still working on bocxy
21:56 angy not really, you're doing the junction between backend and frontend
21:56 ajprog_laptop I will leave the displaying to you
21:57 ajprog_laptop ;)
21:57 ajprog_laptop actually probably to moose
21:57 angy damn! I failed to use you
21:57 ajprog_laptop I have the basic plugin setup
21:57 angy backend is coded, but it need a frontend integrated into wordpress. I can do frontend standalone, but not into wordpress
21:58 angy Great! I'll push the code into it then
21:58 tlockley the whole WP integration seems like more hastle than its worth
21:58 angy I got a whole standalone one running
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21:59 tlockley also is the f*@#ing forum fixed yet so its useable?
21:59 tonsofpcs prolly not
21:59 * tonsofpcs hasn't tried in a while
21:59 angy it's in the process of being fixed
21:59 tlockley i just gave up after dr_jkl couldnt fix it
22:03 wannabe1987 lol
22:05 Seroster HOLY CRAP!
22:05 Seroster http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/9550389687/1/tumblr_lqovaaQMUO1qminlv
22:05 Seroster IT'S FIBONACCI!  RUN!
22:07 Toastdude That's AWESOME :)
22:08 tlockley sweet
22:14 tlockley 1GbE is awsome
22:16 Cprossu what in the world did I miss?
22:16 Cprossu egrsteve you still around?
22:17 tlockley you missed me almost thowing my laptop out the 2nd story window
22:17 angy he might be stuck in a \0 loop
22:17 Cprossu yay! flying laptops!
22:17 wannabe1987 ....
22:17 wannabe1987 i love defenstration!
22:17 tlockley yah, i am working on backing up my macbook pro so i can re-intall 10.6
22:18 Cprossu oh dear. did you install 10.7?
22:18 tlockley wannabe1987: when it comes time will video the defenestration of a 40in sony trinitron cause i refuse to lug it back down the stairs
22:18 Seroster What is awesome, Toastdude? The fibonacci?
22:18 wannabe1987 ok
22:18 angy Toastdude for sure
22:18 tlockley Cprossu: i have had 10.7 but the string of finder crashes plus a KP is the last straw
22:18 Cprossu tlockley those sets are terribly horrificially heavy.
22:18 Toastdude Yes Seroster...
22:18 tlockley indeed it almost crushed me on the way up
22:20 tlockley but i still have a trinitron my mother bought in the early 80's that still works
22:20 tonsofpcs Cprossu!
22:20 tonsofpcs see my charts?
22:20 * tonsofpcs needs to build an updated one
22:20 Cprossu the 32" ones are pain too, hell, even the 20"er coulda been used as a makeshift wrecking ball
22:20 Cprossu tonsofpcs!
22:21 Cprossu tlockley, the WEGA's were the worst.
22:21 tlockley have one of those too. 27in
22:21 Cprossu no I haven't tonsofpcs!
22:22 tonsofpcs http://tonsofpcs.com/modempower3.png
22:22 * egrsteve does not exist
22:23 * angy passes a b to egrsteve
22:23 Cprossu I thought so egrsteve!
22:23 Cprossu more importantly I cannot know your location and instantanious momentum at the same point in time.
22:23 wannabe1987 lol
22:24 Cprossu holy crap you're all oever the place tonsofpcs
22:24 * egrsteve is a 4 dimentional hyper cube
22:24 Cprossu the upstream power is constantly fighting.
22:24 * angy wants a egrsteve!
22:25 wannabe1987 o.O
22:25 angy I want a tesseract, if he's one, I want him!
22:25 egrsteve will a klein bottle do instead?
22:25 wannabe1987 ooo ok
22:26 Cprossu scary though tonsofpcs.
22:26 angy it does as well
22:26 Cprossu 10 whole dBmV on that fight chart.
22:26 egrsteve cprossu http://imgur.com/a/Ewki2
22:27 angy but it's a little less desirable as it's possible to really build
22:27 tlockley nice secondary steve. whats it for?
22:27 egrsteve without an intersecting edge
22:27 Cprossu it's so pretty!
22:27 egrsteve first secondary I ever made
22:27 egrsteve it's for an audio modulation tesla coil
22:28 tlockley cool
22:28 Cprossu very nice.
22:28 Cprossu what did you coar it with as well?
22:28 Cprossu *coat
22:28 Cprossu serves me right for not paying any attention to the position of my hands on my keyboard
22:28 egrsteve remember captains blog over the weekend with it playing music, that coil was being driven by a crude concept I created
22:29 egrsteve west system epoxy
22:29 Cprossu cool!
22:29 Cprossu I also saw that captains blog that contained mostly saw-ing
22:29 egrsteve my goal is a high audio quality coil driven by an ipod
22:29 Cprossu btw that pickup.... yikes.
22:30 Cprossu guess batman ain't gettin' a new truck just yet.
22:30 tlockley lol the pickup
22:30 egrsteve ya, it needs a "little" work
22:30 Cprossu if it was an automatic transmission they'd have had an easy rebuilt.
22:30 Cprossu *rebuild.
22:31 Cprossu as that year woulda been a 4L60E
22:31 Cprossu but it's a manual, so hard parts are probably fucked.
22:31 Cprossu and contrary to belief it's way harder to rebuild a manual than an automatic.
22:32 Toastdude Bye angy-away
22:32 Cprossu they're damn near better off picking up a scrap tranny
22:33 Seroster arrgh. Where is niobe
22:34 wannabe1987 the noaa weather radio went off wtf
22:35 wannabe1987 severe t storm warning
22:35 wannabe1987 astro73|derrial you get this?
22:35 wannabe1987 damaging winds
22:36 egrsteve :) storms
22:36 egrsteve .radar
22:36 BotSteve egrsteve: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=grr&amp;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
22:36 wannabe1987 egrsteve my sister told me to look outsid, cuz i'm *totally* in jenison righ tnow....
22:36 Cprossu wow
22:36 wannabe1987 holy shit
22:36 Cprossu big one
22:36 wannabe1987 i'm on a third floor
22:36 wannabe1987 you think i'm safe?
22:37 wannabe1987 altho its unsafe to go home too...:S
22:37 egrsteve I'm on the second floor of a  glass building
22:37 wannabe1987 ...
22:37 egrsteve (nobody throw any rocks)
22:37 wannabe1987 which building?
22:37 egrsteve kennedy
22:37 wannabe1987 ah
22:38 egrsteve maybe I should go to the top of eberhard
22:38 Xela I'm in a massive stone building. #livingineuropeFTW
22:38 wannabe1987 top?
22:38 egrsteve ya an upper floor
22:38 wannabe1987 why not basement?
22:39 egrsteve not roof top, but that would be fun too
22:39 Cprossu ajprog_laptop could you go kick the stream computer for me?
22:39 egrsteve A you can't watch a storm from the basement and B the building is along the grand river == no basement
22:40 wannabe1987 ah.  storm watching.  you didn't say why you were gonna go up there....
22:40 tonsofpcs Cprossu: ok, http://tonsofpcs.com/modempower4.png is up to date, http://tonsofpcs.com/modempower5.png is a narrower range
22:40 egrsteve no I figured I would find a 20 ft pole and hold it on the roof
22:40 wannabe1987 sounds perfectly safe!  my friend said she's gonna go swimming
22:41 Cprossu so it looks like a classic case of ramping up until T4. do you have any T3 or T4 timeouts in your logs?
22:41 wannabe1987 yay hail!
22:41 tonsofpcs Cprossu: plenty.
22:41 tonsofpcs but that's ok, they fixed it... lol
22:41 Toastdude Hi Cprossu
22:41 Cprossu did they ever tell you what they think happened?
22:42 tonsofpcs me?
22:42 Cprossu yeah
22:42 tonsofpcs oh, they're @#(%* idiotic first-answer techs.  I finally got the third one to open a case, I need to call in now...
22:42 Cprossu woo
22:43 tonsofpcs the first one didn't understand what "intermittent" means
22:43 Cprossu oh god.
22:43 tonsofpcs the second didn't understand that I'd (a) already gone through everything and (b) HAD A SERVICE TECH VISIT abt 3 hours earlier.
22:43 wannabe1987 if i all of a sudden disappear its cuz NO POWA
22:44 egrsteve intermittent: the kind of problem that is the hardest to find the cause of
22:44 Cprossu par for the course on the second one at least tonsofpcs
22:44 Seroster gnite
22:44 Cprossu speaking of intermittent, bah! lol
22:44 tonsofpcs egrsteve: not when I already went through all the troubleshooting steps for them and read the logs that are showing what is happening when I'm noticing the intermittent symptoms....
22:45 tonsofpcs the third one had me run speedtest and ping test and refused to believe what I was saying...
22:45 tonsofpcs "Please paste exactly what it says" (after pinging google.com w/ linux)
22:45 tonsofpcs (after I pasted the min/max/avg line)
22:45 Cprossu I've had plenty of cox techs 'blame my modem'
22:45 Cprossu tonsofpcs hahahaaha
22:45 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I'm not saying it's not my modem.  They haven't even suggested I swap it yet.
22:46 Cprossu that's good and I don't think it is
22:46 Cprossu I've undergone exactly what you've been going through before
22:47 Cprossu I recall they sent their 'best tech' finally
22:47 Cprossu who connected his toshiba modem and couldn't even get a connection
22:47 Cprossu he was like "it's a miracle you're even getting internet at all"
22:47 Cprossu then showed me a noise graph
22:47 tonsofpcs well, if you think it's that bad, I've only talked to the local chief like 4 times this week
22:48 tonsofpcs I could ping him to come out with one of the business guys ;)
22:48 Cprossu they rewired my whole house and drop in RG6 =)
22:48 tonsofpcs yea, this apt is apparently RG59
22:49 tonsofpcs the guy that came out replaced the splitter and the short chunk from the tap and everything he could get to inside w/ RG6 and fresh connectors
22:49 wannabe1987 ooo its thursday.  that means BBT day :D
22:49 Cprossu my cable modem getting a two way tap straight off of the drop, the other one feeding a nice 1002mhz rated amplifier which feeds everything else
22:49 tonsofpcs but my numbers are fine.  I think the CMTS is just telling it to throttle poorly.  Note the 14dBmV values at times!
22:49 Cprossu downstream should nearly always be good
22:49 Cprossu the upstream is the problem
22:50 tonsofpcs (tech number two was chatted to at 3AM, about 2 hours after I got home from sitting at a diner with the local headend chief)
22:50 Cprossu transmitting up a noisy line is much more difficult for a 'low power device' like your cable modem.
22:50 wannabe1987 THUNDER
22:50 Cprossu than it would be for the node
22:50 tonsofpcs so you're saying I need to put a linear in-line? :-p
22:50 Cprossu what I am saying is if any amplifiers are noisy from your line to the node
22:51 Cprossu or any bad connections
22:51 tonsofpcs the issue is that the CMTS will then just throttle my modem down, again...
22:51 Cprossu it can cause your issue that normal people wouldn't even notice.
22:51 tonsofpcs well, I have constant disconnects.  Check IRC logs of me over the past two months
22:51 tonsofpcs I was solid then suddenly disc/reconn/disc/reconn 2x per day
22:53 Cprossu it's a pity you can't log into one of your neighbors cable modems and see if they are having the same sets of issues
22:53 Cprossu any open wifi points around you tonsofpcs? xD
22:55 tonsofpcs it's a pity that the cable techs aren't told how to do that...
22:57 Cprossu tonsofpcs ours can do that at least
22:57 Cprossu at least some of them
23:00 tonsofpcs they can, yes...
23:00 tonsofpcs also, pm
23:02 ajprog_laptop Cprossu: sorry I am not at the lab
23:03 Cprossu ajprog_laptop: copy!
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23:06 wannabe1987 morning Sythen
23:08 Sythen hellllloooo
23:08 Sythen had to reboot my system before the nights transfers
23:08 Sythen i think my 500gb hdd is on the way out
23:08 wannabe1987 uh oh
23:08 Sythen yeah, ill check and see if its under warranty
23:08 Sythen i could easily pull the data off it
23:09 angy aaaaaand I think I now have more luggage weight than angy weight for tomorrow
23:10 Sythen lol
23:10 wannabe1987 lol
23:10 wannabe1987 you're going home tomorrow
23:10 wannabe1987 ??
23:10 angy the first plane is at 11pm
23:10 angy I should be able to wave on the IRC at 11am next day
23:11 wannabe1987 ?
23:12 ajprog_laptop have some VMs setup so you can work/play on the flights?
23:12 angy final plane is landing at 2pm CEST, so 8am
23:12 angy yep
23:12 westmi joined #thegeekgroup
23:12 angy I'm installing wordpress into the VM
23:13 tlockley where you headed angy?
23:13 angy Nantes in France
23:13 tlockley cool
23:14 angy then my pointer on the google maps of TGG members
23:14 wannabe1987 aka gr?
23:14 wannabe1987 o
23:14 wannabe1987 and *then* gr
23:14 wannabe1987 :P
23:14 angy I don't even know where I am on the map currently
23:14 tlockley angy you ever tried to do link aggregation with OS X?
23:14 angy P'ky like moving me
23:14 angy I did, it worked very well with one, crashed with another
23:15 tlockley well i have everything configured, but my xserve refuses to recognize that ther is LAG on my dell powerconnect switch
23:16 tonsofpcs if there's a lag on your switch, tighten it
23:16 * egrsteve survived a net split
23:16 angy I never tried with dell things, only cisco crappy stuffs
23:16 angy that's because you're in the 4th dimension egrsteve
23:16 egrsteve thats right
23:16 tonsofpcs time?
23:16 tlockley well the PowerConnect support standard link aggregation
23:16 angy I'll *have* to autopsy you to see how you do that
23:17 angy 802.3ad should do it
23:17 angy usually, it's way painful with MacOs than windows
23:17 angy way less
23:17 tlockley thats just it, I have it setup on the mac and the PConnect but the mac doesent see it
23:18 angy punch the switch in the power supply
23:18 tlockley is there a way to test on the client side if 802.3ab works
23:18 angy MacOS does it well for sure
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23:19 Cprossu hey angy that was fun!
23:19 Cprossu lol
23:19 Thermoelectric Yay, back to civilisation. :P
23:19 angy :)
23:19 tlockley the mac says the ports have "No Partner"
23:19 angy so Cprossu is not the civilization :p
23:19 Cprossu no lol we were on the shit end of that split
23:20 tlockley heh
23:20 angy did you try unplugging all cables then plug on, and the other
23:20 tlockley yep but i can try again
23:20 angy then plug one, then the other is the correct end
23:20 Cprossu no but I heard the person who tripped on the fiber yelling expletives from my house
23:20 angy what is the firmware of the dell pc?
23:20 Cprossu what did I miss?
23:20 Cprossu lol
23:21 tlockley SW: 1.0.0.33 Boot: 1.0.0.12 HW: 00.00.02
23:21 angy what PC is that?
23:23 wannabe1987 amway lost power O.o
23:23 tlockley Powerconnect 2808
23:23 angy I think I chemically burned one of my feet :(
23:23 Cprossu so it's a switch?!
23:23 tlockley yes, a powerconnect switch
23:23 tlockley that i am trying to get link agg working
23:24 Cprossu oooooh kay what is wrong what are you trying to do with it?
23:24 angy which port are you trying to aggregate?
23:24 tlockley ports 3 and 4
23:24 angy that should work... dell things are weird
23:24 tlockley Cprossu: i want to link agg my xserve
23:24 Cprossu i c. yeah dell things are weird.
23:25 tlockley but it should work. the LAG is definied correctly on the dell and i have the lag defined on the mac
23:25 tlockley and it says invalid partner when the cables are disconnected but then say no partner when connected
23:26 Cprossu wow tlockley the documentation is rather poor
23:26 tlockley indeed
23:26 tlockley most all dell docs are really bad
23:26 tlockley and according to the integrated cable tester there is no cable faults
23:27 angy can you check the MAC addresses of the 2 interfaces in the aggregation?
23:27 angy I'm sensing the old 2 interfaces/1 mac problem here
23:28 tlockley so the agg is only saying it has one mac?
23:28 speedrunnerg55 joined #thegeekgroup
23:28 speedrunnerg55 dude....
23:28 angy I believe it is, and that's why you can up it
23:28 tlockley lemme check
23:29 speedrunnerg55 i had to type "rigono fridriksson" as the human check code
23:29 speedrunnerg55 friggen huge
23:29 speedrunnerg55 and hard to read
23:29 tlockley from ifconfig, bond0 is only reporting the mac of en0
23:29 * speedrunnerg55 pokes angy
23:30 wannabe1987 speed?
23:30 * speedrunnerg55 pokes wannabe
23:30 * angy punch speedrunnerg55 in the eye. Reflex!
23:30 speedrunnerg55 ouch
23:30 wannabe1987 whats with angy and his eye fetish?
23:30 angy you're doomed tlockley
23:30 tlockley how so?
23:31 angy how is your LACP configured on the dell? Passive/No Trunking?
23:31 * speedrunnerG55 sits in the corner with a black eye, crying
23:32 * angy goes caring after speedrunnerG55 black eye
23:32 angy there you go
23:32 * Toastdude got a phone
23:32 tlockley i done even know where to find that on this thing
23:32 * speedrunnerG55 calls Toastdude's phone
23:33 * Toastdude hasn't told speedrunner his phone number :P
23:33 speedrunnerG55 i thought i had you on fb
23:33 speedrunnerG55 or was it google plus
23:33 Toastdude Google plus
23:33 Toastdude I can't have a fb yet...
23:34 tlockley angy: here is a shot fo the LAG Config Page… http://imgur.com/TNaJP
23:34 Toastdude I just got it about 30 minutes ago
23:34 angy what are the choices on he first option Load Balance?
23:35 tlockley L2, L3, L2/L3
23:35 angy try L3, mac os is not L2 aggregator
23:35 tlockley brb
23:36 tlockley no joy
23:37 tlockley cycled cables too
23:37 * wannabe1987 pokes speed
23:37 angy damn
23:37 angy that's a weird bug
23:37 tlockley indeed
23:38 * tonsofpcs calls Toastdude's IRC
23:38 Toastdude Hello?
23:38 tonsofpcs Hi, who is this?
23:38 Toastdude It's Toast, who are you?
23:38 tonsofpcs oh, sorry, wrong number.
23:38 tonsofpcs :D
23:39 Toastdude :P
23:39 Toastdude :D
23:40 wannabe1987 ...
23:40 wannabe1987 strange people
23:41 * Toastdude calls wannabe1987's IRC
23:41 * wannabe1987 lets it ring
23:41 * angy puts a huge bandage on speedrunnerG55 eyes.
23:41 angy There you go
23:41 * Toastdude hangs up.
23:41 * wannabe1987 looks to see who called
23:42 wannabe1987 o! sorry toast
23:42 wannabe1987 i was busy in the kitchen
23:42 Toastdude :P
23:42 tonsofpcs bah... Cprossu pls fix my internets for me
23:43 wannabe1987 whats wrong with it?
23:44 Cprossu ok but you'll have to believe, really believe!
23:44 * Cprossu tap his magic leatherman on the ethernet cable three times and instantly *poof* Magically and remotely every piece of equipment and cabling has been replaced and the old equipment and cabling transported instantly and fell ontop of some high up CEO's head!
23:45 Cprossu damn I don't think it worked.
23:45 Cprossu you didn't believe enough tonsofpcs!
23:45 tlockley FFS i am fed up with this. Time to make the xserve a IPv6 router again
23:46 wannabe1987 lol Cprossu i like it!
23:46 wannabe1987 magic leatherman....whered you get it?
23:46 Cprossu from the magic leatherman store.
23:48 wannabe1987 ah.  i haven't seen any yet
23:51 * wannabe1987 watches jeopardy
23:51 Toastdude I wonder if I can use the CB credits as a ringtone....
23:53 * speedrunnerG55 wobbles
23:53 * speedrunnerG55 faints
23:54 * Cprossu puts smelling salts up to speedrunnerG55's nose
23:55 wannabe1987 the guy won with 38k
23:56 wannabe1987 2nd place was at 8k
23:56 tggmc stream pc rebooted
23:56 BotSteve tggmc: I have the following messages for you:
23:56 BotSteve At 26 Sep 12:47Z, Hackbat asked me to Tell tggmc if you see the captain tell him Hackbat on irc found a way to extend the record time on his camera to one hour
23:57 tggmc he knows :P
23:57 wannabe1987 thx tggmc
23:57 wannabe1987 .stream
23:57 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://justin.tv/thegeekgroup
23:58 tggmc cprossu is rebooting it
23:58 tggmc at least i hope that is him
23:58 Cprossu yeah it's me
23:58 wannabe1987 lol
23:58 Cprossu thanks tggmc
23:58 tggmc wow.. i never noticed the bald spot on my head,,
23:58 tggmc np
23:58 Cprossu bashing my head on a wall now
23:58 tggmc it is chkdisking now
23:58 Cprossu good.
23:58 Cprossu at least the blackmagic card doesn't drop out anymore though
23:58 tggmc is that wy you rebooted it?
23:58 tggmc np
23:59 Cprossu exactly
23:59 Cprossu I forced a check
23:59 tggmc the whole fucking machine dies.
23:59 tggmc thats better ?
23:59 Cprossu let me know if anything weird turns up
23:59 tggmc nope
23:59 tggmc it is rebooting again
23:59 angy like seroster?
23:59 Cprossu good.
23:59 Cprossu well tggmc what we had before the eraser trick was whole machine died and then the card didn't even exist accd to the system

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