Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-10-07

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00:03 wannabe1987 i told abby that there was tomato in the food for dinner and she was like WHAT?!  she doesn't like tomato, but couldn't taste it
00:03 tlockley i dont like tomatoes either but i love pizza
00:03 LeeWQueen1996 lol
00:03 wannabe1987 lol
00:03 * masterofmonks sprays some Toast-Away.
00:03 wannabe1987 lol
00:04 masterofmonks Get rid of unsightly Toast with Toast-Away.
00:04 LeeWQueen1996 lol
00:04 tlockley heh
00:05 Ponko omg did anyone hear about the gordon ramsay dwarf pornstar look alike being eaten by badgers
00:05 tlockley sorta, never really paid attention
00:06 wannabe1987 um no
00:06 tlockley i just keep reddit front page on constat refresh
00:07 Ponko or the guy that stole 54 yes FIFTY FOUR copies of Madden 12 from a Wal Mart store in Florida
00:07 tlockley what a dick
00:07 Ponko not only that though HE GOT AWAY
00:07 tlockley well all those suckers should just buy it on the XBL marketplace
00:07 Ponko and was caught on camera doing it and was SOOO obvious
00:08 tlockley then you dont have to wory about disks
00:09 Ponko and the 46 year old bloke that drove 8 hours to beat up an 13 yeard old
00:09 tlockley are you watching a live stream of FOX news or something?
00:09 wannabe1987 where are you getting news?!
00:09 wannabe1987 lol
00:09 Ponko no SideScrollers
00:09 tlockley ...
00:10 Sythen screwattack.com
00:10 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/user/s​crewattack#p/u/0/WDOzVa0Jqbo
00:10 wannabe1987 astro73: http://lifehacker.com/5847373/lubuntu-breathe​s-new-life-into-your-netbook-without-sacrific​ing-the-flexibility-of-a-full+fledged-desktop should i do this to my netbook?
00:10 Ponko yes yes Sythen
00:10 Ponko lol
00:10 tlockley ah
00:10 Sythen lol
00:10 tlockley wannabe1987, only if you like to spend time configuring things
00:11 tlockley ubuntu is nice, but it can be a bitch if the HW isnt fully suported
00:11 wannabe1987 ....
00:11 wannabe1987 hmmmmm
00:11 Ponko http://www.facebook.com/#!/ryan.poulton ok i'm putting this on here if i get adds leave name on there :P
00:11 Toast-Away masterofmonks: o.O
00:11 tlockley do some leg work on google about if it will work on your netbook
00:12 Ponko hmm
00:12 masterofmonks Heh.
00:12 wannabe1987 hmmm after reading the article, probably not....cuz you can't use flash drives as easily, you can't do this, that or the other thing.  i use my netbook like a *real* computer
00:12 wannabe1987 never mind, astro73
00:13 LeeWQueen1996 i totally fucking need this
00:13 LeeWQueen1996 http://www.thinkgeek.com/com​puting/keyboards-mice/e0e7/
00:13 wannabe1987 o.o
00:13 tlockley very nice
00:14 LeeWQueen1996 oh yeah...im gona get that
00:14 wannabe1987 like you have 70$$
00:14 LeeWQueen1996 i will earn it
00:14 LeeWQueen1996 or beg my parents
00:14 wannabe1987 lol
00:14 wannabe1987 mom pleeeeese i neeeeeeed it /whine
00:15 LeeWQueen1996 yes
00:15 LeeWQueen1996 well i still have to work it of
00:15 LeeWQueen1996 off
00:15 wannabe1987 lol
00:15 masterofmonks Seventy double dollars?
00:15 * wannabe1987 wants to go hide in the basement, but laundry isn't done yet :S
00:16 LeeWQueen1996 lol
00:16 wannabe1987 and once bro gets calmed down and stuff, it'll be quiet....but till then?!  helll no its not quiet
00:18 * Ponko wants to score a TOUCHDOWN!!!!
00:18 wannabe1987 then do it!
00:18 Ponko i can't right now
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00:22 tlockley wb steve
00:22 egrsteve thanks
00:23 tlockley hows HW going?
00:23 egrsteve just getting started
00:23 tlockley you going for a second degree?
00:24 egrsteve no, first degree
00:24 tlockley oh. what in?
00:24 egrsteve electrical engineering
00:25 tlockley very cool
00:29 egrsteve is chat really this dead?
00:29 Ponko he'll get the 3rd degree if he doesn't do that HW though
00:29 Ponko i normally kill it
00:30 egrsteve why do you do that?
00:30 Ponko idk it just happens
00:30 tlockley i would have done more of my hw if it wasnt all grind work
00:31 Ponko hmmm
00:31 tlockley i would rather pay for WOW subscription than grind away at HW
00:31 Ponko well you can do the former anytime man
00:31 tlockley indeed
00:32 tlockley but i hate wow
00:32 Ponko lol then do the latter
00:32 tlockley though i am working on going back to college
00:33 wannabe1987 ooo playing neighborhood nurse! :P
00:33 masterofmonks Or play EQ2
00:33 tlockley heh SOE
00:34 tlockley hopefully i can get back to UMass Dartmouth then try and find a college to transfer too that has a audio engineering program
00:34 tlockley or maybee technical theater
00:37 egrsteve either of those could be fun
00:37 tlockley well i wanted to a CS major but i hate theory
00:38 tlockley and I started working for the schools auditorium
00:38 tlockley so i think I would rather AE and doing technical theater is just too much fin
00:38 tlockley *fun
00:39 tlockley plus all the automation is really fun to play with
00:39 egrsteve automation is always fun to play with
00:40 tlockley if you ever need to do a show with sound and video, i would recomend checking out QLab if you have a mac
00:40 tlockley or a hackintosh
00:40 egrsteve I have an '06 era macbook on it's last leg
00:40 egrsteve and qlab sound fimilular
00:41 tlockley yah, i have late 08 MBP that is on its second display and has no optical drive
00:41 tlockley and the Headphone output is toast
00:41 egrsteve one ram controller toast here
00:41 tlockley ough
00:42 egrsteve so I know how long it takes to load from swap vs ram
00:42 tlockley yah i bet
00:42 tlockley how much? 2GB?
00:42 egrsteve 1gb
00:42 tlockley ouch
00:42 * LeeWQueen1996 hugs wannabe
00:43 tlockley can you even fit 2gb dimms?
00:43 egrsteve it's slugush but oddly stable
00:43 egrsteve I think I can
00:43 egrsteve i have never tried
00:43 egrsteve my swap is currenty 2.6 Gb
00:44 tlockley custom?
00:44 * wannabe1987 hugs you back
00:44 egrsteve custom what?
00:44 astro73 apparently, wannabe1987 likes to say my name
00:44 tlockley are you running OS X or Linux?
00:44 wannabe1987 um
00:44 egrsteve os x
00:44 tlockley huh, how did you set the swap size? or is that something that OS X did?
00:45 tlockley I have never had a mac with a bad slot so i have never needed to deal with that before
00:45 egrsteve it floats deending on amount needed, currentlt its 3gb with 2.6, in use
00:45 wannabe1987 maybe.  sorry
00:45 tlockley ok, so it is more like the windows PF than swap
00:46 egrsteve sort of in the fact that it is not it's own partition
00:46 egrsteve but being a unix system it's still called swap
00:46 tlockley yah, i am used to making swap parts
00:46 tlockley yah that is what i figures
00:46 tlockley *figured
00:46 egrsteve hmm uptime 23 days, 23 hours
00:47 tlockley not bad
00:47 egrsteve maybe I should reboot some time
00:47 egrsteve for a laptop especialy
00:47 wannabe1987 lol
00:47 tlockley heh, 2days cause of battery death
00:47 egrsteve nice
00:47 tlockley well i am about to buy my third battery for my MBP
00:47 astro73 my chromebook can go a long time w/o rebooting ... of course, it spends most of that sleeping.
00:48 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​ol5Dfs7jqFI&feature=related
00:48 Ponko lol
00:48 tlockley lol monty python
00:49 egrsteve mine is curently running 21 interent tabs, 9 programs and 15 PDFs open
00:49 astro73 a bit suspect, i think
00:49 Ponko NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUISI.. oh bugger
00:49 tlockley yah i tend to be a over active app closer
00:50 Sythen cabbage
00:50 tlockley i hate stepping in to fix a mac that has every app on the dock running
00:50 Ponko i do like the election day vid
00:50 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uprj​moSMJ-o&feature=BFa&list=FL​bTPYxLKCrzSeO7Ww0JLwhg&lf=BFa spanish inquistion
00:51 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31FF​Tx6AKmU&feature=BFa&list=FL​bTPYxLKCrzSeO7Ww0JLwhg&lf=BFa
00:51 egrsteve I don't run a full dock but Ihave ical, terminal, text edit, preview, chat, ect open
00:51 Ponko the second result
00:51 tlockley thats normal
00:51 egrsteve plus internet, openoffice and a couple more
00:51 tlockley i had one that was running ever app in the cs4 suite and the owner was complaining that his mac was slow
00:52 egrsteve ya, that would do it
00:52 wannabe1987 GO TIGERS!!!!!
00:52 egrsteve 16gb of ram and it would still be slow
00:52 Ponko Tarquin Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-b­us-st​op-F’tang-F’tang-Olé-Bisc­uitbarrel the Luton candidate?
00:52 tlockley heh
00:52 * Ponko goes to watch ESPN america
00:52 tlockley i dont know what i would do with all that ram
00:52 egrsteve cs4 seems very plated
00:52 tlockley plated?
00:52 egrsteve *Bloated
00:52 tlockley ah
00:53 tlockley well the finally got rid of their version cue server thingy
00:53 egrsteve must be an adobe thing
00:53 astro73 I could use more ram, i only have 2gb
00:53 Ponko can i just point that were the Luton bit was filmed is ACTUALLY the Town Hall in Luton lol
00:53 tlockley that was such a pain
00:53 wannabe1987 astro73, i have 1gb
00:54 tlockley yah alot of adobes products are really bloated
00:54 egrsteve does adobe know how to make non-bloated stuff anymore?
00:54 tlockley that is why i love apples aperture for picture editing
00:54 tlockley not since they bought macromedia
00:54 tlockley now that i think about it, that was really long ago now
00:54 egrsteve yes, I suppose it was
00:55 egrsteve I remember that buyout too
00:55 tlockley 2005
00:55 tlockley man i feel old
00:55 egrsteve so do I
00:55 astro73 it was only 2005? I thought it was long before then
00:55 wannabe1987 lol
00:55 Ponko Tarquin  Fin-tim-lin-bin-whin-bim-lim-b­us-sto​p-F’tang-F’tang-Olé-Bisc­uitbarrel!!
00:55 egrsteve I remember when "adobe flash" sounded so wrong
00:55 tlockley indeed
00:56 tlockley i still occasionally call it macromedia flash
00:56 egrsteve i think we all do
00:56 eadthem steve jobs died
00:56 egrsteve remeber there shockwave player thing
00:56 egrsteve old news
00:56 masterofmonks eadthem: Yesterday.
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00:57 Katemonster wannabe1987
00:57 wannabe1987 kate!
00:57 tlockley hey kate
00:57 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31FF​Tx6AKmU&feature=BFa&list=FL​bTPYxLKCrzSeO7Ww0JLwhg&lf=BFa i'm sorry but this makes me laugh
00:57 egrsteve morning kate
00:57 Katemonster permission to stab the shit out of this "don michael" person
00:57 wannabe1987 he's a pastor, why?
00:57 Katemonster hi steve
00:57 LeeWQueen1996 hmmm...ive been watching the geek group videao since feb 21, 2011
00:57 egrsteve does he deserve it?
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00:58 Katemonster ponko: that's a valid thing to laugh at.
00:58 * wannabe1987 finds link
00:58 Katemonster i think he does.
00:58 Ponko Katemonster watch till Luton is called
00:58 masterofmonks What pisses me off is instead of getting surgery he decided to go to some kind of quack. Who told him "Oh, my special diet will cure your cancer. Seriously Steve? Aren't you supposed to be some kind of genius?
00:58 Ponko i made a comment on there which i think is actually true even though its a joke
00:58 Katemonster mom... what?
00:58 wannabe1987 http://www.facebook.com/kelly.vanderwell/posts/29​5434837149603?ref=notif&notif_t=share_comment  THIS
00:58 tlockley steve jobs was really just a genious salesman
00:58 masterofmonks Katemonster: Steve Jobs.
00:59 LemPhone bleh
00:59 Katemonster oh
00:59 tlockley he could sell shit if you gave him a press event
00:59 LemPhone tired lemming
00:59 * wannabe1987 is playing with balls
00:59 wannabe1987 hi LemPhone!
00:59 LemPhone lo wannabe
00:59 astro73 masterofmonks: for real?
00:59 Katemonster you had me scared for a minute.  ie... batsteve did what!?
00:59 wannabe1987 you were gonna tell me stuff last night/this AM?
00:59 Ponko umm wannabe1987 is Drew there?
00:59 wannabe1987 fuck if i know
00:59 wannabe1987 why?
00:59 LeeWQueen1996 oh yeah you guys are talking about steve jobs....my band teacher was so sad because every computer he has...is mac and he has apple stuff so we made a joke that his god died lastnight
00:59 masterofmonks Take that double entendre to nsft
00:59 wannabe1987 we broke up, Ponko
00:59 LemPhone oh sorry wannabe, totally forgot about that
00:59 astro73 wannabe1987: the acrylic kind, right?
01:00 Ponko because you said you were playing with balls.....
01:00 wannabe1987 lol
01:00 LeeWQueen1996 wannabe loves her balls
01:00 wannabe1987 buckyballs!
01:00 LemPhone economy of scale is going to hurt you with a cookie business
01:00 astro73 those are a bit small to play with
01:00 wannabe1987 perfect size for me
01:00 astro73 and wannabe1987: I know you far too well to fall for that.
01:00 wannabe1987 why LemPhone?
01:00 wannabe1987 fall for?
01:00 Ponko katemonster the bloke on kellys post
01:00 Ponko and where's my fb add dangit
01:01 LemPhone when you start making more of them, it'll get to a point where you either can't keep up
01:01 masterofmonks Because when growth kicks in it is going to *really grow*
01:01 astro73 wannabe1987: "I'm playing with balls"
01:01 wannabe1987 lol
01:01 LemPhone or have to drop quality to keep up, or start investing in machines to automate some of the process
01:01 wannabe1987 the chick who won artprize, her mom died this am
01:01 Katemonster ponko: yes, what about him?  other than reading his words makes me feel stabby
01:02 Ponko he's like my exs dad but a bit more severe
01:02 * LemPhone hands Katemonster a ku'kri
01:02 masterofmonks LemPhone: Or hire someone.
01:02 LemPhone that too
01:02 Katemonster heh, i actually own one of those.
01:02 wannabe1987 i dont' mind disagreements on my stuff.  i'll stay out of this one
01:03 Ponko i'm and Agnostic
01:03 masterofmonks an
01:03 LemPhone I'm trying to get some silat knives, but there is some questions about their legality
01:03 Ponko yeah
01:03 Ponko an
01:03 Katemonster i'm staying out of it only because i know that it's futile to argue with someone like that.
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01:03 Ponko lol GRRR
01:03 Katemonster but seriously, *fuck him*
01:03 wannabe1987 i love buckeyballs
01:03 masterofmonks Who are we fucking?
01:03 Ponko you add me dangit Katemonster
01:03 wannabe1987 http://www.facebook.com/kelly.vanderwell/posts/29​5434837149603?ref=notif&notif_t=share_comment - masterofmonks
01:03 wannabe1987 some pastor guy i know
01:03 LemPhone arguing about religious is pointless, as it all comes to personal beleif anyway
01:04 LemPhone down to*
01:04 masterofmonks So I am an ordained athiest minister, I am sure he would have something to say about that.
01:04 Katemonster ponko: what?
01:04 astro73 true story.
01:04 Ponko comparing gays to pedos?
01:04 Ponko wow
01:04 astro73 you can only argue about philosophy within a religion
01:04 wannabe1987 lots of my friends would...
01:05 LemPhone yeah, because there are no hetero pedophiles at all!
01:05 Ponko its when you bring religion into politics though
01:05 masterofmonks Two seconds to moderation.
01:05 Katemonster that's not what pisses me off.  it's not the marriage argument that pisses me off.  it's the "you're not actually happy unless you fit my world view, an if you say you are happy then you're lying."
01:05 LemPhone religion and politics should never meet
01:05 Katemonster that
01:05 Katemonster is
01:05 Katemonster bullshit
01:05 masterofmonks I would advise taking this conversation to NSFW
01:06 Ponko yeah my sentiments exactly
01:06 * Katemonster is done talking
01:06 LemPhone religion has no business in politics, and politics has no business in religion
01:06 Ponko exactly
01:07 * wannabe1987 has a log of buckyballs
01:07 * Katemonster *is done saying what she had to say, and will let it go
01:07 * wannabe1987 also has NO PART in this convo.....other than posting the photo
01:07 LemPhone thankfully here we've managed to keep the 2 fairly wel divided
01:07 masterofmonks So how about those farnsworth fusors?
01:07 LemPhone was really happy when our current PM said she is an atheist
01:08 Ponko lets just play some football
01:08 masterofmonks Don't you mean rugby?
01:08 wannabe1987 you mean baseball?  GO TIGERS
01:08 Katemonster no, soccer.  real football.
01:08 LemPhone eh, underwater hockey!
01:08 Katemonster and <3 farns' fusors <3
01:09 LemPhone would love to build one, so cbf
01:09 masterofmonks cbf?
01:09 LemPhone working on my flamethrower atm
01:09 wannabe1987 underwear hockey?
01:09 LemPhone cannae be farked
01:09 LemPhone underwater wannabe, and yes it does exist
01:10 wannabe1987 oooo
01:10 wannabe1987 ok
01:10 Ponko Masterofmonks you are technically correct with the rugby
01:10 LemPhone .w underwater hockey
01:10 BotSteve "Underwater hockey (UWH; also called Octopush and Water Hockey) is a global non-contact sport in which two teams compete to maneuver a puck across the bottom of a swimming pool into goals." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underwater_hockey
01:10 wannabe1987 no comments about wannabe's brain, she's playing w/ balls
01:11 LemPhone having a blonde day eh wannabe?
01:11 * Ponko tries to stop smirking and giggling at that
01:11 masterofmonks Well if you don't refrain from making comments about it LeeWQueen1996 is going to take that the wrong way.
01:11 Ponko agreed
01:12 wannabe1987 lol
01:12 wannabe1987 what?!
01:12 wannabe1987 i know lee will :P
01:12 wannabe1987 i'm not worried about him
01:12 astro73 UWH looks hard.
01:13 LemPhone it is
01:13 masterofmonks For future reference it is pronounced La-bore-A-tore-E
01:14 LemPhone lab ora tory
01:14 Katemonster lah-bra-tory
01:14 LemPhone gah, +r
01:14 astro73 masterofmonks: of boring
01:14 astro73 *how boring
01:14 masterofmonks Katemonster: only for non mad engineers.
01:15 eadthem are there non mad engineers?
01:15 LemPhone and non-mad scientists
01:15 astro73 yes. normal people.
01:15 LemPhone eadthem, civil engineers
01:15 astro73 the do engineering as a day job
01:15 Ponko ANYWAY
01:15 masterofmonks LemPhone: no such thing as a mad scientist, they are all engineers.
01:15 astro73 Ponko: are you a civ e?
01:15 Katemonster la-bor-ah-tory is for tiny redheads named dexter.
01:15 masterofmonks Katemonster: I don't catch your meme.
01:15 Ponko no i'm a prat :P
01:16 * Ponko didn't really need to state the obvious though lol
01:16 Katemonster you've probably never watched the cartoon Dexter's Lab then
01:16 masterofmonks I don't even own a television.
01:17 LemPhone we have a 55" in the loungeroom
01:17 LemPhone it rarely if ever gets used for free to air, and we don't have cable
01:17 Dougy wat
01:17 Dougy who keeps dinging me
01:17 LemPhone most common use is streaming stuff either from my server or the youtubes
01:17 Katemonster DIGDUG
01:18 Katemonster masterofmonks: it hasn't been on television in about 5-6 years anyway.
01:18 masterofmonks I haven't owned a television in over 10
01:19 LemPhone sigh, time to get off the bus for work
01:19 * Ponko is thinking
01:19 LemPhone later all, be back online when I finish tonight
01:20 wannabe1987 Dougy, people who think you are Speedrunnerg55 aka douglas
01:24 astro73 Ponko: careful. don't burn anything out
01:24 Ponko well the only thing stopping me burning out is also picking up radio
01:24 Ponko my satellite ears :P
01:25 Ponko lol
01:26 wannabe1987 MY EYE TWITCHES *twitch*
01:26 Dougy wannabe1987: dong
01:26 tlockley i hate that. but at the same time...
01:26 Dougy that would do it
01:26 * tlockley *me gusta face*
01:26 Dougy speedrunnerg55 is a good friend of mine
01:26 wannabe1987 yeah....
01:26 wannabe1987 thats what he said
01:26 wannabe1987 why are there so MANY ACCIDENTS?!
01:28 wannabe1987 and wtf is jolicloud?
01:28 masterofmonks wannabe1987: what king of accidents?
01:29 wannabe1987 airplane crashes, fatal car crashes, etc
01:29 tlockley its a thing wannabe1987
01:29 wannabe1987 all today
01:29 wannabe1987 all fatal
01:29 wannabe1987 seriously!
01:29 wannabe1987 tlockley, would it be good for my netbook?
01:29 wannabe1987 better than windows 7?
01:29 Katemonster i got in a bus crash today.
01:30 wannabe1987 don't die
01:30 wannabe1987 plz
01:30 Katemonster my friend jessica crashed into me in the bus while bolting down the aisle
01:30 wannabe1987 lol
01:30 tlockley possibly wannabe1987, but the issue you will always runinto is the lack or desktop "power"
01:30 astro73 wannabe1987: about as good as chromeos?
01:30 wannabe1987 well, i've never used chrome OS and you can't buy it atm
01:30 wannabe1987 i was told "try JolliCloud. It may be the best alternative for you if you do everything online, its great. also, Chrome OS is a good option, but its all web based and there is currently no legal way to install it on a laptop, you need to buy a preinstalled one"
01:31 wannabe1987 (g+
01:31 Katemonster we both thought we missed the bus.  then we both thought we had left eachother behind.  then she almost ran into me, sat down, pulled out her phone to text me, looked up and realized i was right there.
01:31 Katemonster DINNER
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01:31 astro73 ummm... chromeos/chromiumos is an open-source project with alternative distributions
01:31 astro73 same as chrome/chromium
01:31 tlockley yah but it isnt the with google experience
01:31 tlockley which on those things is almost the crutial point
01:32 astro73 i can't think of anything major that would be missing?
01:32 tlockley atleast that is what it is like for andriod
01:32 tlockley wannabe1987: im going to stick a copy of jolicloud in a vm and bang around on it for a bit
01:33 wannabe1987 if i were to put chrome os or this other jolicloud on my netbook, can i still have my text documents and mirc?
01:33 astro73 the big thing is that it's not as secure, because the hardware to support fully secure boot is new to CrOS. but you got webapps and full chrome
01:33 wannabe1987 ok thx tlockley
01:33 astro73 afaik, the only major difference between chrome and chromium is the branding
01:33 astro73 wannabe1987: with chromeos, you don't get local apps
01:33 astro73 period.
01:34 wannabe1987 see, i like my text docs
01:34 wannabe1987 so i can't have ANY files on the computer?  o.O
01:34 wannabe1987 all my recipes are in text docs!!!!!
01:35 astro73 you have local files, but all the apps are web-based
01:35 astro73 so it'd be google docs
01:35 wannabe1987 ahhhh
01:35 wannabe1987 hmmmmm
01:35 astro73 (or microsoft web office or ...)
01:36 astro73 it's chrome. period. a computer of chrome
01:36 astro73 and the way jolicloud/joli os is reading, it sounds like the same idea
01:38 tlockley the account website is knda slick
01:39 astro73 the problem is, there's no good free web IRC yet.
01:39 wannabe1987 ik
01:40 astro73 i mean, you could roll your own CrOS with mirc/xchat/blahirc included, but it wouldn't be well integrated
01:40 Ponko WOW here we go tigers here we go
01:41 wannabe1987 the game isn't on....we switched :P
01:41 astro73 oh! JoliOS DOES have local apps
01:41 tlockley joli is getting really cool
01:41 tlockley all the integrations is sick
01:41 astro73 http://www.jolicloud.com/product look at the app center
01:41 wannabe1987 can i use ff there, or do i have to switch back to chrome?
01:43 tlockley yes
01:43 tlockley ff is available for joli
01:43 wannabe1987 cool
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01:44 tlockley just waiting on virtual box and then i can play with it
01:44 tlockley oooh and it connects to dropbox
01:45 wannabe1987 i don't have dropbox (yet)
01:46 tlockley i would recomend it
01:46 tlockley the 2gb is nice
01:46 wannabe1987 free?
01:46 tlockley or you can use google docs which is 1gb of free storage
01:46 astro73 wannabe1987: i would recomend you join with my referal link
01:47 wannabe1987 lol
01:47 tlockley dropbox is free
01:47 astro73 wannabe1987: http://db.tt/YYu0sVU and then we both get extra space free
01:47 wannabe1987 ik
01:48 astro73 good.
01:48 lwq1996 hi
01:48 wannabe1987 hi
01:48 tlockley hey
01:48 lwq1996 im bored
01:48 wannabe1987 i've heard lots about it (i follow life hacker i'd be blind/deaf *not* too)
01:49 astro73 i should follow life hacker
01:49 astro73 .fortune
01:49 BotSteve In a five year period we can get one superb programming language.  Only we can't control when the five year period will begin.
01:49 astro73 lwq1996: factor the time
01:49 lwq1996 factor?
01:49 tlockley wannabe1987: how much ram does your netbook have?
01:49 wannabe1987 lol
01:50 wannabe1987 1gb, same as the laptop :(
01:50 astro73 lwq1996: yes. factor. as in math?
01:51 wannabe1987 or you could do homework :D
01:53 astro73 what do you do with a 6min answering machine message?
01:53 wannabe1987 put it on YT?
01:54 astro73 http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/vid​eolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/sketch​es/32709-best-answering-machine-ever
01:54 Ponko hmmm
01:55 astro73 i feel like i should put that as one of my options in google voice
02:00 tlockley i really need to take stock of all the things that I am signed up for and do a through cleaning
02:00 tlockley on anohter note, i dont know how i deal with the lack on bass in my speakers for so long
02:01 tlockley it is literally deafening how little bass my speakers have
02:02 wannabe1987 tlockley - how do you do that, take stock of what all you're signed up for?  i use 2 email addresses for stuff....
02:02 wannabe1987 tigers are up, 3-1
02:02 astro73 the detroit tigers are actually winning? what changed?
02:03 wannabe1987 they've *been* winning, where've you been?!
02:03 astro73 did the owner decide he wanted to stop being the laughing stock of football?
02:03 astro73 that's new for this season, right?
02:03 tlockley well i have two emails for all my suff, but i need to search through them all
02:03 tlockley i tend to sign up for things like for one time access and stuff
02:03 astro73 i'm used to jokes like "How do you keep tigers out of your yard?" "Put up goalposts"
02:03 wannabe1987 yes
02:04 tlockley like i have an account for the crown professional forums
02:04 wannabe1987 astro73 - tigers = baseball....
02:04 tlockley because i was working on fixing an amp
02:04 astro73 oh, that's the lions i'm thinking of
02:04 wannabe1987 they're winning too....
02:04 astro73 this is why i don't do sports
02:04 Ponko astro73 the world is going mad
02:05 astro73 Ponko: i knew that. you can blame these gen eds for that
02:05 astro73 so help me out, which sports does detroit suck at?
02:05 Ponko lol
02:05 wannabe1987 astro73, my dad is embarrased for you
02:05 Ponko Basketball atm
02:05 wannabe1987 he saw on my screen :P
02:06 astro73 and classically?
02:06 wannabe1987 dropbox got stuck at 94%!!!!!!
02:06 astro73 wannabe1987: I bet i can code circles around him
02:06 wannabe1987 i *know* you can
02:07 wannabe1987 what car stuff do you know how to do?
02:08 astro73 noncritical fixes, but I bet I could learn it pretty quick.
02:08 wannabe1987 some of my guy friends had to teach mehow to change a tire....
02:08 astro73 really? that's pretty easy
02:08 astro73 jack up, bolts off, wheel off, wheel on, bolts on
02:09 wannabe1987 i know....
02:09 astro73 i've replaced half the handles on my car and both my mirrors
02:10 astro73 don't have the equipment to do my own oil, though. no jack stands
02:10 astro73 or proper jack
02:10 wannabe1987 we have ramps you can buy....
02:10 lwq1996 all you need is boards
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02:10 wannabe1987 WOOD!
02:10 wannabe1987 brb!
02:11 astro73 we actually have piles of bricks
02:11 lwq1996 wood is what wannabe likes
02:11 lwq1996 hmmmm
02:11 lwq1996 i woulnt use them
02:11 kokona SUPER LAME F***ING BIRTHDAY :(
02:11 lwq1996 they would tople over
02:11 wannabe1987 kokona - happy birthday?
02:11 lwq1996 happy birthday
02:11 wannabe1987 how was it lame, dear?
02:11 astro73 lwq1996: keep your mind out of the gutter. and it depends on how you pile them up
02:11 astro73 pyramids are a lot more stable than towers
02:11 wannabe1987 lees mind lives in the gutter.  take it out its homeless
02:11 lwq1996 ywah
02:12 wannabe1987 srsly brb tho....need to run to the car!
02:12 Ponko yeah i remember building ramps on my street and i used wood and bricks such fun
02:12 Ponko i did a jump on my old bike though and i went through the handle bars
02:13 lwq1996 lol
02:13 kokona firsti cant get drunk got a meeting in the morning second nobody remembered ex my mom and therd no one to spend it with :(
02:14 Ponko now i always land on my BACK wheel
02:14 lwq1996 you got us <:)
02:15 wannabe1987 masterofmonks - kelly's cookies?
02:15 wannabe1987 kokona :(  i'm sorry
02:15 astro73 kokona: that's why you celebrate birthdays on weekends
02:15 wannabe1987 come here, we'll celebrate :D
02:16 kokona im booked till monday
02:16 wannabe1987 ok, so am i....
02:16 kokona who knows i just might go and blow somthing up i got the space to do it
02:16 wannabe1987 lol that you do
02:17 lwq1996 lol
02:17 kokona any suggestions
02:17 lwq1996 car
02:17 lwq1996 plane
02:17 lwq1996 your neighbors car
02:17 wannabe1987 o.O
02:17 kokona already did a car
02:17 lwq1996 your neighbors house
02:17 wannabe1987 there, now you can click on my name and friend me :D
02:17 kokona and ill have to build a plain
02:18 kokona ok hang on kelly
02:18 wannabe1987 :)
02:18 wannabe1987 its set so everyone can friend me ATM
02:18 astro73 wannabe1987: on where?
02:18 wannabe1987 fb
02:19 astro73 oh
02:19 kokona wannabe1987: yeah for friends requests
02:20 wannabe1987 there!
02:20 kokona yipee
02:22 kokona aaaaarrrrgggg your blowing up my phone wannabe1987
02:23 wannabe1987 ...
02:23 * wannabe1987 stops
02:23 wannabe1987 thats totally NOT blowing it up
02:23 wannabe1987 i could.....but i won't
02:23 wannabe1987 kate!  how was nomming?
02:23 Katemonster nommilicious
02:23 wannabe1987 yum
02:23 kokona like 6 texts in the last min
02:23 Katemonster chili baked potato.
02:24 lwq1996 lol
02:24 wannabe1987 dude i only sent you a few....
02:24 lwq1996 nomster
02:24 wannabe1987 i can send you more *copies phone number into free texting app*
02:24 kokona it was all notifacations like friend acceptince and all the others
02:24 wannabe1987 ah
02:24 kokona lol
02:25 kokona it dont cost me for text or any thing no wories
02:25 astro73 Katemonster: that's sounds tasty
02:25 astro73 nommy even
02:25 kokona right?
02:25 wannabe1987 lol
02:26 lwq1996 http://www.damnlol.com/kick-ass-cop-8291.html
02:26 * wannabe1987 works on dropbox
02:27 wannabe1987 ooo jolicloud has a bittorrent client hmm mmmm
02:27 wannabe1987 now how do i use this as an OS?  tlockley?
02:27 tlockley wannabe1987: want to try joli on a vm?
02:27 wannabe1987 yes, before shoving it on the netbook
02:27 wannabe1987 i've never used a VM before tho
02:27 tlockley ok, open up remote desktop connection
02:28 tlockley im going to host the vm for you
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02:28 wannabe1987 remote desktop?
02:28 tlockley yah, you can remote into my virtualbox
02:28 astro73 it has an option to install next to windows
02:29 wannabe1987 ok.  but i don't know what you mean by open up remote desktop connection
02:29 tlockley you run windows right?
02:29 wannabe1987 xp!
02:29 Ponko Vista
02:29 wannabe1987 and dropbox is now set up
02:29 * Ponko knows it's shit
02:30 tlockley go to start->all progs->accessories->remote desktop connection
02:30 tlockley wannabe1987 ^
02:30 kokona i just saw a 4 story tall trebuche lonch a pumpkin fly 1800 feet
02:30 wannabe1987 o.o
02:30 wannabe1987 i didn't even know that was there...
02:30 wannabe1987 ok, computer?
02:30 tlockley 76.24.57.207:3389
02:30 astro73 GUYS: http://www.jolicloud.com/download
02:30 tlockley exactly like that ^
02:30 astro73 side-by-side with windows?
02:30 wannabe1987 astro73 - i'm trying it on a VM first!
02:30 wannabe1987 noes!!!! too scary
02:31 kokona lol
02:31 astro73 fine
02:31 wannabe1987 can't connect....
02:31 tlockley hang on
02:31 wannabe1987 i copypasted the numbers too
02:32 tlockley forgot to install the VRDP package on my server
02:32 wannabe1987 hey kokona, facebook tells me your bday is today :P
02:32 kokona 10-06
02:33 wannabe1987 my sisters was 2 days ago, she's getting so big!  :P  she still can
02:33 wannabe1987 't break 50lbs, but hey!
02:35 SparkyProjects kokona, try this trebuchet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67fFDiPRsrk
02:35 tlockley wannabe1987: try the same copy paste again
02:35 wannabe1987 its thinking
02:36 SparkyProjects Or this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wVADKznOhY launching a car
02:37 tlockley did it ever work wannabe1987
02:37 wannabe1987 still thinking
02:37 tlockley huh
02:38 * lwq1996 glomps kelly
02:38 wannabe1987 https://wbx-files.s3.amazonaws.com/j​acksonpollock_by_miltos_manetas.swf
02:38 wannabe1987 can't connect tlockley
02:38 tlockley bah
02:39 wannabe1987 mom: what are you doing?  me: spews techie stuff.  mom: why do you need a new os on your netbook?  me: windows is too slow
02:40 lwq1996 what did she say after that
02:40 wannabe1987 hm  ok
02:40 wannabe1987 lol
02:40 lwq1996 lol
02:40 wannabe1987 she really didn't say anything
02:41 kokona SparkyProjects:  nice trebuchet
02:41 kokona that looks fun
02:41 wannabe1987 however, i do like this jolicloud on my web browser.....
02:41 wannabe1987 i bet i'l llike it as an OS.
02:41 wannabe1987 astro73 you said we can dual boot it?
02:41 tlockley you can install in windows
02:42 wannabe1987 in windows?  what good would that do?
02:42 tlockley you still have to reboot to use
02:43 wannabe1987 well, yeah
02:43 wannabe1987 but what good is it to have an os in an os?
02:43 * tlockley shrigs
02:43 tlockley *shrugs
02:43 SparkyProjects kokona, that first one had someone injured when they missed  the net.
02:44 astro73 playing around, mostly
02:44 wannabe1987 hey dawg, we heard you like OS's so we put an OS in your OS so you can operate while you operate!
02:44 kokona lol
02:44 * wannabe1987 is getting kicked to the basement, hold on
02:45 kokona i wouldnt mind going old tech for a minute and making a fullauto bolista
02:45 kokona *ballista
02:46 tonsofpcs ?
02:46 astro73 giant crossbow?
02:47 SparkyProjects A ballista is a sort of crossbow, not as elegant as a trebuchet
02:47 tonsofpcs right, but how do you make one fully automatic with "old tech" ?
02:47 astro73 good question
02:48 astro73 how do you make a semi-auto crossbow?
02:48 kokona tonsofpcs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​R8_zsUmwukE&amp;feature=related
02:48 SparkyProjects Use a motorised winch system to draw the bow, and a 'magazine' for the projectiles
02:48 astro73 old tech only
02:48 tonsofpcs astro73: you don't.  You stack a few of them (each string and bow set gets a bolt)........
02:49 astro73 i figure that when you figure out how to recock it, you use a crank
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02:50 kokona tonsofpcs: i was thinking oldtech like gears and cogs full auto with a clip and every thing made of wood
02:51 tonsofpcs astro73: pulling the bow and string back, sure.  How do you load new 'bolts'?
02:51 tlockley wannabe1987: it should work on you laptop for the remote connection
02:51 tlockley try again: 76.24.57.207:3389
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02:52 tonsofpcs (pulling the string back is easy -- see fly fishing reel as an example[D[C[C[4~[D)
02:52 speedrunnerG55 hi\
02:52 astro73 tonsofpcs: gravity fed
02:53 astro73 with a mechanism to drop one bolt at the appropriate point in the cycle
02:53 tonsofpcs astro73: friction issues (also, how do you get the bow drawn then? go up over and around?)
02:53 astro73 over the string
02:53 wannabe1987 tlockley - trying again
02:53 wannabe1987 hey....i'm in
02:53 wannabe1987 user name and pass?
02:53 speedrunnerG55 hey wannabe
02:53 kokona eather cup catch or spring
02:53 tonsofpcs right, the string is what draws the bow... it needs to go back as straight as possible to become taught
02:53 tlockley choose guest
02:53 speedrunnerG55 .cookie wannabe
02:53 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe, I baked you a chocolate chip cookie!
02:53 wannabe1987 thanks speedrunnerG55
02:53 wannabe1987 how are you speed?
02:54 tonsofpcs cookiewannabe? is that the name of it now?
02:54 speedrunnerG55 im good
02:54 wannabe1987 what?
02:54 speedrunnerG55 a friend of mine just got banned on a minecraft server :(
02:54 wannabe1987 awwww
02:54 tonsofpcs the online cookie store
02:54 wannabe1987 o idk yet
02:55 kokona that sucks
02:55 astro73 .cookie
02:55 tonsofpcs speedrunnerG55: good, maybe he'll go outside and exercise or something
02:55 BotSteve Here you go, astro73, I baked you a M&M's cookie!
02:55 * astro73 noms
02:55 speedrunnerG55 tonsofpcs: ....lol
02:56 tonsofpcs BatSteve-Away: I hear M&M doesn't like their name or likeness used publicly.  You should invent a similar candy with peantut butter and use that instead :-p
02:56 wannabe1987 lol
02:56 kokona hay every one here knows basicly what i do for a living and the stuff i talk about can any one guess how old i am today lol
02:56 wannabe1987 my age!
02:56 tonsofpcs 24
02:56 tonsofpcs or 25
02:57 Ponko that would be a good idea tonsofpcs lol
02:57 kokona any one els
02:57 wannabe1987 tlockley - i'm assuming its slow cuz its a vm?
02:57 tlockley sorta
02:57 * lwq1996 glomps wannabe
02:57 astro73 tonsofpcs: friction aside, could you have a belt with 2 catches on it to pull the string, a gravity-fed magizine over the string/"barrel", and then activate the trigger?
02:57 wannabe1987 ok
02:57 tonsofpcs Ponko: you do get the reference there, right?
02:57 wannabe1987 o.O
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02:57 kokona come on i wana see how many get it right
02:57 tlockley the internet is not helping
02:57 tonsofpcs astro73: no, you ned to draw the bow with a string straight back
02:57 astro73 it's a really long cycle, but it's fully automatic as long as you keep cranking
02:57 astro73 support the magazine from behind
02:57 tlockley wannabe1987: the vm is running on my quad-core xserve
02:58 astro73 so the stringway is clear
02:58 kokona tonsofpcs: u got it 24
02:58 wannabe1987 yeah, my age :P
02:58 tonsofpcs you'd need to draw then drop.  the issue with a ballista isn't so much the basic design, but one of scale.  the bolt is 2$(^@*^(*@ huge
02:58 kokona wannabe1987:
02:58 kokona my age
02:58 astro73 tonsofpcs: yeah.
02:58 tonsofpcs youngin's!
02:58 wannabe1987 i guessed "my age" for how old you are and i'm 24
02:58 tonsofpcs I didn't guess.  I cheated.
02:59 astro73 tonsofpcs: this is the geek group. scale to us just means "more awesome"
02:59 wannabe1987 o.O
02:59 kokona yeah like the one mythbusters made but with a biger budget
02:59 tonsofpcs astro73: right, but scale adds complexity.  for an arrow-thickness bolt, the difference between sliding over the bolt and a vacant area is negligible.  For a 5" dia. bolt, there's a huge difference.
03:00 tonsofpcs also, bottom-feeding is easier to control
03:00 astro73 order: draw string, drop bolt, fire
03:00 tlockley wannabe1987 are we friends on FB?
03:00 astro73 there can be a mechanical drop
03:00 wannabe1987 no.
03:00 wannabe1987 why not?
03:00 wannabe1987 o.o
03:00 tonsofpcs you would need to have a 'cclip' for that
03:00 kokona yeah
03:00 tlockley look for Trevor Lockley
03:00 kokona its what i was thinking
03:01 kokona ill have to draw it up
03:01 wannabe1987 freinded sent
03:01 astro73 tonsofpcs: actually, the real problem is how do you get the hooks to release the string at the end of the draw?
03:01 tlockley friended
03:02 wannabe1987 ic
03:02 wannabe1987 .g jolicloud
03:02 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.jolicloud.com/
03:02 kokona think like a piston
03:02 tonsofpcs astro73: they don't need to.
03:02 tonsofpcs astro73: again, think fishing.
03:02 wannabe1987 of course you like my status!
03:02 tlockley i helped ;)
03:02 wannabe1987 ik
03:02 astro73 Oh, when the hooks releases the string, it just fires
03:02 tonsofpcs the ratcheting draw-string system _is_ the hook
03:03 astro73 oh, I was thinking belt, not ratchet
03:03 tonsofpcs you release the ratchet and it slides out
03:03 kokona wannabe1987:  i like your cat i will steel her
03:03 tonsofpcs oo, i know how to manage the bolt drops!
03:03 wannabe1987 nOES!!!!!!!! its in ohio tho
03:03 tonsofpcs anyway, nap time
03:03 wannabe1987 NYAN
03:03 wannabe1987 lol old person!
03:04 kokona tonsofpcs: ok how for the bolt drop
03:04 Katemonster NYAN!?
03:04 Katemonster .yt nyan cat deemer
03:04 BotSteve Katemonster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fs-qfcfnsBw
03:04 wannabe1987 NOES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:04 kokona yeah what is NYAN wannabe1987
03:04 wannabe1987 NOT NYAN CAT!!!!!
03:04 wannabe1987 annoying pieces of shit
03:04 wannabe1987 speedrunnerG55 - nyan!
03:05 speedrunnerG55 wannabe?
03:05 speedrunnerG55 nyan,/ where?!
03:05 speedrunnerG55 ?*
03:05 Ponko Ryan?
03:05 wannabe1987 KITTY
03:05 astro73 Katemonster: i've seen that
03:05 Ponko O_O
03:05 kokona is it a name
03:05 kokona ?
03:05 Katemonster amazing innit?
03:06 Ponko yes Ryan is MY name
03:06 wannabe1987 Katemonster, speedrunnerG55, someone ( kokona) doens't know nyan cat
03:06 wannabe1987 hELP HIM UNDERSTAND
03:06 Ponko Katemonster if you were english i'd of thought you were a chav
03:06 wannabe1987 and tlockley how do i get out of this into my computer?
03:06 Katemonster LMFAO
03:06 astro73 kokona: http://nyan.cat/
03:06 Katemonster that makes me happy.  probably for all the wrong reasons.
03:06 tlockley well all you need to do is install joli cloud and login again
03:06 Ponko lol it's not a thing to be happy about
03:07 speedrunnerG55 i friggen love nyan cat
03:07 Katemonster oh i know.
03:07 wannabe1987 what. no.  out of the VM
03:07 tlockley but when you set yours up you also make a local computer account wannabe1987
03:07 astro73 favorite nyan variation? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk9ltTQm4S8
03:07 tlockley when you loged into the VM you also loged in to the my jolicloud site
03:08 tlockley all you need to do is install jolicloud again and re login to the jolicoud site
03:08 kokona is that cat shiting a rainbow
03:08 Katemonster i friggen love speedrunner.
03:08 kokona lol
03:08 astro73 kokona: yes. and that should be a poptart.
03:08 wannabe1987 i know i did, tlockley.
03:09 wannabe1987 i want to exit and go to my computer
03:09 tlockley oh, move the mouse all the way to the top middle of your screen
03:09 kokona it looks like buttered toast
03:09 tlockley i am sorry, im kinda tired
03:09 wannabe1987 poptart
03:09 tlockley nyan cat
03:09 wannabe1987 aw shit
03:10 tlockley were you able to escape wannabe1987
03:10 wannabe1987 yes
03:10 Toast-Away wannabe: ??
03:10 astro73 kokona: they did that for april fools. never changed it back. stupid nyan cat.
03:11 wannabe1987 someone is using my moms email addy to post on houston's Craigslist.....
03:11 Toast-Away So that's why is toast instead of a pop-tart?
03:11 astro73 Toastdude: april fools, iirc
03:12 kokona i send nyan cat to torment you in your sleep wannabe1987  it will reak havic on your phycie and send u to a nut houes lol go and do my bidding nyan cat
03:12 Toastdude Yep, I read the previous post ^
03:12 wannabe1987 ok
03:12 wannabe1987 how do you get rid of someone posting on your email addy via craigslist, posting SPAM on cl?!  help please!!!!!
03:13 * Katemonster shakes Toastdude violently
03:13 kokona whats the record for listening to nyan cat
03:13 eadthem request a password reset
03:13 eadthem or just simply report them via the account
03:13 Katemonster TOAST Y U NO TOASTY
03:13 Y-U-NO :P
03:13 tlockley Y-U-NO
03:13 Y-U-NO Eyes, Y U NO WORK?
03:14 Katemonster http://youtu.be/o4GNepioKxM
03:14 wannabe1987 lol
03:14 wannabe1987 cuz glasses
03:15 wannabe1987 eadthem - but we can log into her act....
03:15 Toastdude I like the jazz cover
03:15 kokona cuz im at 500 seconds with nyan cat
03:15 eadthem is it on her account?
03:15 astro73 poor cat!
03:15 wannabe1987 yeah
03:15 Katemonster sadcat.
03:15 Toastdude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaEmCFiNqP0
03:16 eadthem change all the assoicated passwords and security questions
03:16 eadthem request to close accounts  stating that it had been stolen for x period of time
03:16 Toastdude kokona: Around a few hours, I think
03:17 Toastdude I listened to it for 2 hours
03:17 eadthem or report that it was stolen and that you have recoverd the account
03:17 eadthem ither way you must report the account was stolen    even if you want to retain it
03:17 eadthem its how you legaly protect yourself
03:17 wannabe1987 i deleted postings
03:19 wannabe1987 there.  reported as well
03:26 wannabe1987 thx eadthem
03:29 * Katemonster keeps reading eadthem as "eat them"
03:30 wannabe1987 me too
03:30 eadthem eeethem
03:30 eadthem mmm not quite right
03:30 wannabe1987 eathan?
03:30 eadthem eeethmmm
03:31 eadthem it was created by the starwars galaxys MMO random name generator
03:31 wannabe1987 then why a d?
03:31 eadthem ive had it sense 2005
03:31 eadthem err 2004
03:31 wannabe1987 lol
03:33 eadthem i also answer to e-add  and  ee-da-them
03:33 astro73 i think of it as "eed them"
03:34 Toastdude Me too
03:34 * Katemonster is just trying to figure out who she's supposed to eat.
03:34 * wannabe1987 starts backing up the netbook
03:34 wannabe1987 eat eathan!
03:34 * Katemonster ...who or what...
03:35 wannabe1987 CHOCOLATE
03:35 wannabe1987 or cookies?
03:35 wannabe1987 .cookie Katemonster
03:35 BotSteve Here you go, Katemonster, I baked you a kleicha cookie!
03:35 Katemonster ...
03:35 Katemonster wtf?
03:35 Katemonster .g kleicha
03:35 BotSteve Katemonster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kleicha
03:35 Katemonster ...those look like fig newtons.
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03:36 eadthem accualy  orginaly it was eadhtem  witch is a better pronounciation
03:38 wannabe1987 Toast-Away, meet Toastdude, is supertoast around?
03:38 Katemonster eadthem where are you from?
03:38 eadthem kansas and nebraska
03:38 Katemonster ah
03:38 * Katemonster wants Toastfire back
03:38 Toastdude He is now wannabe
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03:38 eadthem my name has the other advantage of makeing english teachers asplode upon pronounciation
03:38 wannabe1987 o.O
03:38 Toastdude :)
03:38 wannabe1987 fine!
03:39 wannabe1987 i see your supertoast and raise you superwannabe!
03:39 Toastfire Fine Kate...
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03:39 Katemonster YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
03:39 kellyEv lll
03:40 superwannabe hm
03:40 superwannabe ok
03:40 * Katemonster hugs toastfire... gets slightly singed
03:40 * wannabe1987 finally feels like a geek again....2 computers up at the same time
03:40 wannabe1987 my parents poor network
03:40 * Toastfire hugs Katemonster
03:40 wannabe1987 and dad LIES about the stupid network
03:40 * Toastfire hugs wannabe and superwannabe
03:40 superwannabe :)
03:41 wannabe1987 so how do i *properly* back up a computer?
03:41 superwannabe my pants smell good *sniff*
03:42 wannabe1987 YAY TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:42 Toastfire Lol, I read that as "My parents smell good"
03:42 wannabe1987 they're in bed, i'm not gonna go sniff them
03:43 wannabe1987 Ponko - tigers won, 3-2
03:44 wannabe1987 they also are teh ALDS championship
03:44 superwannabe lol
03:44 superwannabe silly girl
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03:45 wannabe-zz Ponko - tigers won, 3-2
03:45 wannabe-zz they also are teh ALDS championship
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03:45 Ponko yay
03:45 * egrsteve extingises flamingtoast
03:45 Ponko i'm an indians fan tho but go tigers
03:45 Ponko because i'm a fan of tigers :P
03:45 wannabe-zz rawr
03:45 Ponko snarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl
03:46 Toastdude Thanks Steve!
03:46 astro73 wannabe1987: how do you back up a computer?
03:46 Ponko burnt toastdude
03:46 Ponko that would of been funnier
03:46 * egrsteve sends billy to go "play" with toastdude
03:46 wannabe-zz um
03:46 wannabe-zz yes?
03:46 wannabe-zz normally i just copy paste files
03:46 wannabe-zz but....
03:46 astro73 for situations like this, where you need to restore everything, including bootloader, i make a disk image under a linux live cd
03:46 Ponko if he went from fire to burnt
03:46 Toastdude What do you mean by "play," Steve?
03:47 astro73 dd if=/dev/sda|nc youbackup:1234
03:47 egrsteve billy likes to play with fire
03:47 astro73 would be what I use
03:47 astro73 unless you have an external you can back up to?
03:47 Ponko ok kelly is now the Roger Hoy of the IRC
03:47 wananbe1987 i have 7
03:47 wananbe1987 i do have an external :D
03:47 wananbe1987 its 1/2 full
03:47 wananbe1987 and i got it for xmas
03:47 astro73 ok, you need a linux live cd/flash drive
03:47 Ponko 7 user names?
03:47 wananbe1987 no, win 7
03:47 astro73 and enough free space to back up your entire harddrive
03:48 egrsteve he was made an honorary fireman hoping to teach him fire saftey after settting his home on fire too many times
03:48 Ponko ah well it feels like you've got 7 atm
03:48 wananbe1987 yes
03:48 astro73 wannabe1987: you do not back up a live system using this method. it ends in pain and missery
03:48 wananbe1987 ?
03:48 eadthem i think he would have to do a few ride alongs with the fire depo to have that effect
03:48 astro73 huh?
03:48 wananbe1987 what ends in pain and misery?
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03:49 egrsteve I don't know the details but he likes fire
03:49 astro73 if you make a full disk image of a disk in use by the operating system
03:49 wananbe1987 i don't have a flash drive or a cd drive
03:49 astro73 you don't own a flash drive?
03:49 eadthem fire and high voltage   sounds like my old boyscout troop :p
03:49 wananbe1987 its in GR
03:50 astro73 ah\
03:50 wananbe1987 i forgot it
03:50 astro73 well, the way I usually backup a system in preperation for an operating system replacement is to make a full disk image under linux
03:51 wananbe1987 can't i just copy my important files?
03:51 astro73 that way, I know EVERYTHING is backed up and it's a simple restore process.
03:51 wananbe1987 or use windows backup?
03:51 eadthem if im backing up to replace the os
03:51 astro73 do you have a windows restore disk?
03:51 eadthem i just make sure theres nothing i want on the C drive and  start the isntall
03:51 Toastdude Lol, I would like to meet him, but I wouldn't like to be set on fire, Steve...
03:51 wananbe1987 i wasn't planning on replacing w/ windows
03:51 Ponko hmmmmm
03:51 wananbe1987 and theres no disc drive on a netbook! astro73!
03:51 Ponko lol
03:52 eadthem after installing i remind windows docs and settings and program files are on the D: raid array and  im done
03:52 astro73 well, if things go south and you don't have windows anymore, how do you restore it?
03:52 wananbe1987 bother the guy who put windows on it for em?
03:52 wananbe1987 me*
03:52 eadthem well me i just reinstall it    i cant loose anything because of my disk setup
03:52 astro73 ok
03:52 hopstafarian astro73, ubcd?
03:53 astro73 that works. just back up the important documents, then
03:54 eadthem if i didnt have that  i would copy  the user folder and the program files folder to a ext hdd    as well as /ins /programming /media /filebox /avr /projects ...
03:54 astro73 hopstafarian: no optical drive and i don't know ubcd
03:54 eadthem leaving out microsoft programs such as visual studio that will not run without installing
03:55 eadthem astro73 do you have a esata ?
03:55 wananbe1987 how does one go about acquiring a windows install "disk
03:55 wananbe1987 " and putting it on flash drive?
03:55 eadthem o for xp and earlear thats not hard at all
03:56 hopstafarian astro73, you're to restore windows MBR to NTFS drive, w/o a windows system?
03:56 wananbe1987 i have one machine w/ xp, and one with 7 home
03:56 eadthem all you need to do is make a bootable flash drive using windows xp grade dos
03:56 astro73 eadthem: no, i don't have an external drive
03:56 eadthem and then copy the contents of the cd to say /install/
03:56 astro73 hopstafarian: if you copy off the MBR to begin with, totally
03:57 eadthem all windows versions xp and older have no copy protection on the disk   infact microsoft use to widely encurage you to copy the disk to the HDD and install from that folder than off the disk
03:57 hopstafarian astro73, err, i'm confused...i'll bow out, as to not muddy the waters,,,
03:58 eadthem http://downloadsquad.switched.com/20​09/08/27/make-a-bootable-usb-install​er-for-windows-xp-vista-7-with-wint/
03:58 astro73 hopstafarian: it's simple. under linux, if you copy from /dev/sda, you get the MBR, the partition table, and all the partitions. When you copy it back, it's exactly where you left it.
03:58 Ponko-sleeping zzzzzzzz
03:59 eadthem if you want linux therers sevral distros that have stuff setup to make such a install easy
03:59 wananbe1987 night Ponko-sleeping
03:59 Katemonster night Ponko-sleeping
03:59 * Katemonster is probably going to go do the same
03:59 hopstafarian astro73, i get it, unfortunately i though you were posing the question, as opposed to answering it...oops
03:59 Katemonster and holy shit i have a headache.
03:59 * Ponko-sleeping waves then falls back asleep
03:59 Katemonster lol
04:00 * wananbe1987 *waves wand* and gets rid of her and kate's headaches
04:00 Katemonster aspirin will save me!
04:00 Toastdude Bye all
04:00 wananbe1987 BYE!!!!
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04:01 * hopstafarian likes toast
04:01 Toastdude o.O
04:01 Toastdude Bye LeeWQueen1996
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04:02 BatSteve yay tiggies!
04:02 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
04:02 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
04:03 BatSteve hurm
04:03 BatSteve apparently you don't, botsteve
04:03 wananbe1987 o.O
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04:03 wananbe1987 and TYGERS WON
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04:03 LeeWQueen1996 hia botsteve
04:03 LeeWQueen1996 hi botsteve
04:03 BotSteve Greetings LeeWQueen1996!
04:03 wananbe1987 i didn't know this shit even EXISTED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
04:04 Toast-Away REALLY?!?!?
04:04 Ponko-sleeping batsteve my man
04:04 Toast-Away HI BATSTEVE!!
04:04 * Ponko-sleeping passes out due to being tired
04:04 Toast-Away BYE BATSTEVE!!
04:04 wananbe1987 BatSteve, you make sleeping people wake up.....
04:04 BatSteve Night Ponko-sleeping!
04:04 BatSteve so long!
04:04 Ponko-sleeping i felt his presence
04:04 BatSteve wananbe1987: what existed?
04:04 wananbe1987 lol
04:05 wananbe1987 symphonic metal!!!!
04:05 Ponko-sleeping right be back in about 9 hours or so maybe less
04:05 BatSteve Oh
04:05 BatSteve woot
04:05 Toast-Away I thought "I can't wait anymore for Bats to get on..." As soon as I leave, HE GETS ON
04:05 Ponko-sleeping they do
04:05 wananbe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uRGavmAoTA
04:05 wananbe1987 lol poor toast
04:05 Katemonster lahk;skdmngklajfasdf
04:05 Ponko-sleeping you ever been by a railway line kelly?
04:05 Katemonster batsteve
04:05 wananbe1987 not recently
04:06 Ponko-sleeping well when the train goes past the rail sings
04:06 Ponko-sleeping and there for are symphonic metal
04:06 Ponko-sleeping lol
04:06 BatSteve Bye toast!
04:06 wananbe1987 go to bed!
04:06 BatSteve I'll be here next time
04:06 BatSteve Katemonster:
04:07 Katemonster ?
04:07 BatSteve *You* said my name first.
04:07 * Ponko-sleeping closes laptop and falls asleep after taking glasses off and headphones out
04:07 livefiretj im still here...?
04:07 wananbe1987 yes
04:07 wananbe1987 you are
04:07 wananbe1987 dear
04:07 Katemonster that i did.  i was wondering why you put a : after mine.  but i figured it out.  anyway *HI*
04:07 BatSteve sup livefiretj
04:07 livefiretj hi
04:07 livefiretj the sky
04:08 BatSteve oh, yeah, it's because I'm too lazy to do anything but tab-complete
04:08 wananbe1987 lol
04:08 wananbe1987 me too
04:08 Katemonster and now, i reeeeeeaaaaaally need sleep
04:08 wananbe1987 but it doesn't put :'s
04:08 wananbe1987 awww bye kate
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04:10 wananbe1987 TOAST GO TO BED
04:10 BatSteve seeyou kate
04:10 Toastdude NO
04:10 wananbe1987 yess!
04:10 wananbe1987 BotSteve, send Toastdude to bed
04:11 * LeeWQueen1996 takes toast to bed and straps him down
04:11 * Katemonster says goodnight to wannabe, waves goodnight to batsteve, sings goodnight to toast, and snogs exor674
04:11 LeeWQueen1996 IF YOU GET OUT OF THOSE RESTRAINTS YOU DIE
04:11 wananbe1987 :D
04:11 wananbe1987 snogs?!
04:11 wananbe1987 she KISSED dre!!!!!!!
04:11 Toastdude Lol
04:11 exor674 oh fine be that way. snog and run
04:11 BatSteve No snoggin!
04:11 wananbe1987 lol
04:11 BatSteve If you want to snog you have to bring enough for everyone.
04:11 wananbe1987 poor bats, theres girls kissing and he can't see
04:11 BatSteve It's like bubble gum.
04:12 LeeWQueen1996 LOL
04:12 BatSteve wananbe1987: this is the internet.  if I want to see girls kissing, rest assured, I will be able to.
04:13 livefiretj u guys are weird
04:13 LeeWQueen1996 lol house mate?
04:13 wananbe1987 lol
04:13 wananbe1987 what/!
04:13 wananbe1987 no....
04:13 wananbe1987 kate snogged dre and then left
04:13 LeeWQueen1996 snogged?
04:13 wananbe1987 british term for kissing
04:13 wananbe1987 get with the times!
04:13 BatSteve .ud snog
04:13 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.urbandictionary​.com/define.php?term=snog
04:15 astro73 woot!
04:15 wananbe1987 ??
04:15 LeeWQueen1996 OH SNOG....yeah i still dont get it
04:15 wananbe1987 british term for kissing
04:16 LeeWQueen1996 ok
04:16 NeWtoz I think it's a british term
04:16 NeWtoz for kissing
04:16 NeWtoz ;)
04:16 astro73 i don't get what's so special about kate kissing. But I do know I just made this! https://github.com/astronouth7303/cropper/com​mit/2fefb68b8ab48081ce42c412ff5d5c407de989f8
04:17 BatSteve COOL
04:18 wananbe1987 NeWtoz you're so smart
04:18 wananbe1987 this makes no sense to me, sorry jamie :cries:
04:18 astro73 BatSteve: I think so
04:18 * wananbe1987 needs to sleep soon, fuck?
04:18 astro73 wananbe1987: I just expanded the number of formats it can read. Also, your N's are wrong
04:19 wananbe1987 lol
04:19 wannabe1987 there
04:19 astro73 that's better
04:19 astro73 BatSteve: Now if I can get the encoder figured out, I can have wonderfulness with a variety of libraries
04:20 BatSteve Keep me posted, for sure.
04:20 livefiretj hi botsteve
04:20 BotSteve Greetings livefiretj
04:21 astro73 BatSteve: it's all on github. you can watch the repo
04:21 BatSteve Ding
04:21 wannabe1987 livefiretj do you have a bootable flash drive for my netbook? (7)?
04:21 astro73 and I'm pretty much using the bug tracker as my todo list
04:22 BatSteve Also, bitbucket now supports Git, astro73.  FYI.
04:22 BatSteve That's what I do as well, with the issue list.
04:22 wannabe1987 in case i need to borrow it/make my own in case i fuck up an OS install
04:22 livefiretj yep
04:22 BatSteve for botsteve
04:22 astro73 i heard that. They also appear to be mimicing github's style.
04:22 BatSteve which I'm ok with
04:22 BatSteve because they offer private repos for cheap
04:23 BatSteve ("cheap" here defined as "free")
04:23 astro73 but i just really moved into github, so i'm not particularly inclined to move.
04:23 astro73 see, none of my stuff i really care about hiding that much
04:23 BatSteve I'd use it for homework and stuff.
04:23 astro73 and if i do need to hide it, i know how to set up my own github server
04:23 astro73 *git server
04:24 BatSteve Well, yeah, but the whole point is an offsite location (at least for me)
04:24 astro73 for homework, i'd just use a local git, not even bothering with a server
04:24 astro73 ah
04:25 BatSteve I get about 75% of my *useful* programming done on a laptop
04:25 astro73 also, I'm going to need help tracking down bugs, although anything related to file IO is going to have to be retested.
04:25 BatSteve Because it doesn't have all the distractions of home
04:26 BatSteve So an independent git that I can use from anywhere is super nice.
04:26 astro73 actually, my laptop can be more distracting? damned chromebooks
04:26 BatSteve "anywhere" meaning without ssh
04:27 astro73 *shrug*
04:27 Toastdude Meh, Bye again...
04:27 livefiretj what do u need it for wannabe1987?
04:28 wannabe1987 in case i need to borrow it/make my own in case i fuck up an OS install
04:30 wannabe1987 yes, i'm going to attempt (w/ help of internets) to install the jolicloud.com OS
04:31 livefiretj sounds fun
04:32 wannabe1987 someone just told me to check my A: drive
04:32 LeeWQueen1996 lol
04:32 wannabe1987 he misread what i said and thougth i said floppy, not flash
04:33 wannabe1987 why would i want xp on a floppy?
04:33 LeeWQueen1996 lol
04:33 livefiretj lol
04:34 livefiretj i dont think you can install xp on a floppy
04:34 wannabe1987 lol
04:34 livefiretj via *
04:34 wannabe1987 i want to know how many it would take
04:34 wannabe1987 ....
04:34 livefiretj more then 200
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04:37 BatSteve .c 700/1.4
04:37 BotSteve 500
04:37 BatSteve wannabe1987: 500 floppies
04:37 wannabe1987 lol
04:37 wannabe1987 thx
04:37 livefiretj I estimated
04:37 wannabe1987 its ok, you're not perfect
04:38 astro73 imagine disk swapper's elbow!
04:38 wannabe1987 lol
04:38 livefiretj not a big deal
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04:41 wannabe1987 hi karmicthreat
04:41 pegasus assuming a constant acceleration of 1G (32 feet per second per second) it would take 356 days to reach light speed.
04:42 pegasus by my math, anyway
04:43 astro73 pegasus: you forget relativity. As you approach LS, your perception of time and your mass change.
04:44 astro73 i think
04:44 pegasus 355 days 17 hours and change
04:44 pegasus astro: i don't forget relativity, that's the assumption
04:44 pegasus assuming a constant acceleration of 1G
04:44 astro73 that's challenging close to LS
04:44 astro73 have fun
04:44 LeeWQueen1996 i should go to bed
04:44 LeeWQueen1996 i have a foot ball game tomorrow
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04:45 wannabe1987 lol
04:45 wannabe1987 play well!
04:45 astro73 I wish I could figure out why I get the error at the bottom of http://paste2.org/p/1693874
04:45 LeeWQueen1996 ok i will
04:45 LeeWQueen1996 later
04:45 wannabe1987 take care!
04:48 pegasus 355 days, 17 hours, 8 minutes, ~11.747633 seconds
04:48 wannabe1987 .in 365days remind lwq1996 to be awesome
04:48 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind on 06 Oct 2012 at 04:48Z
04:48 wannabe1987 lol thanks BotSteve
04:49 wannabe1987 anyway
04:49 wannabe1987 i need to go to bed.  up early tomorow!
04:49 wannabe1987 like....7am early
04:50 pegasus would get us to proxima centauri in ~5 years
04:52 pegasus carrying two years worth of rocket fuel for a one-way trip would be problematic
04:59 pegasus ion propulsion is probably the best bet, but we're gonna need >9N/kg to maintain 1G, and the best one i can find gives 88.5N thrust, so that's a weight limit of 9kg for the entire craft and crew
04:59 pegasus i think we'll need a little more than 19lbs.
05:03 pegasus 200N theoretical maximum
05:03 pegasus 20kg per thruster
05:05 pegasus 5 thrusters per crewman, plus whatever it takes to push the ship and all supplies needed for a five year one-way trip
05:05 pegasus that's a lot of thrusters.
05:06 BatSteve In fact, it is ALL the thrusters
05:07 pegasus i'm not even sure that an MPD thruster can be made to weigh less than 20kg, so you may be right
05:07 pegasus MPD thruster + power plant
05:08 pegasus but we'd need two years of burn time at 9N/kg assuming this whole neutrino fiasco actually does poke holes in relativity
05:09 pegasus 9.80665N/kg
05:11 pegasus if we did wind up being able to accelerate *beyond* C, if einstein was really *that* wrong, it would allow us to burn longer than 2 years and shave significant time off the trip
05:22 Cprossu sweet
05:23 Cprossu just need to decide on a remote
05:23 * Cprossu does a little dance because his cablecard + hdhomerun prime experience went well
05:32 astro73 code is hard when you're sleepy, but i got the other half (the cropping/encoding) done. now i think it's time for sleep.
05:32 BatSteve goodnight astro
06:09 pegasus whaaaathe hell is the romanian government doing poking my server.
06:16 pegasus http://pegasus.pimpninjas.org/wtf-romania.txt
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06:28 Xela Hey! I've got a math problem here... I need to proof/show that [a*(x mod p)]mod p = (ax) mod p for x,a€N and a<p. p€P, i.e. any prime number
06:28 Xela It's definitively a non-trivial equation, but it works....I just can't explain WHY
06:33 Xela Oh I'm such a retard
06:34 NeWtoz I've successfully forgotten that part of my life :)
06:35 Xela For anybody wondering: We 'know' (i.e. somebody a lot smarter than me alrady proofed) that (b*c) mod m = [(b mod m)*(c mod m)]mod m
06:36 Xela We also know that for a€N and a<p (p again being a prime number),  a mod p = a
06:36 Xela Therefore we can write [a*(x mod p)]mod p = [(a mod p) * (x mod p)]mod p
06:37 Xela which we then see is (a*x)mod p
06:54 pegasus shorthand for you: "mod" = %
06:55 pegasus (a * (x % p)) % p = ((a % p) * (x % p)) = (a * x) % p
06:56 pegasus and you ought to be able to work that out by factoring
06:57 pegasus assuming "a" and "x" are both composite numbers containing the factor "p", you remove the factor "p" from both of them either before or after multiplying them, you'll still arrive at the same answer
06:57 pegasus wait, that would work for division, but you're asking modulus
06:57 * pegasus ponders
07:01 pegasus so i can't see some of your operations, but i'm guessing the bit i'm missing is "x and a are composite, p is prime"?
07:01 pegasus i just get a lovely UTF8 box instead
07:01 * pegasus attempts to fix that
07:01 Xela Sorry, I was afk. This the box; €
07:01 Xela *?
07:01 pegasus yeah, i get a box
07:02 Xela That's just a euro sign, because I couldn't be bothered to find the "element of" unicode sign
07:02 pegasus "element of N" = term unknown
07:02 pegasus you said "element of P" means "any prime number"
07:03 pegasus so "a,x = element of N" = not prime?
07:03 Xela Nope, just N=the set of natural numbers (0,1,2,3,4...)
07:03 pegasus ah, any natural number, thank you
07:03 pegasus in that case, i don't see the proof for modulus
07:04 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Slurpy on Ritalin as a carcenogin
07:04 Xela This showed up as part of a more complicated proof about the properties of a set
07:05 pegasus if a = 10 and x = 12 and p = 7 (which is prime) you get (10 * (12 % 7)) % 7 = 1 and ((10 % 7) * (12 % 7)) = 15
07:05 pegasus now 15 % 7 = 1, but that's missing, as far as i can see, from your equations
07:05 pegasus oh, no, there it is
07:05 Xela Yeah, and a < p by definition
07:05 pegasus so that's your proof, then, you're removing the factor twice and multiplying the other factors
07:06 pegasus you don't need a < p to make it fit,though
07:06 pegasus as long as you modulus by p at the end of it all, it should work for any given numbers as long as p is prime
07:06 pegasus probably if p is composite too, but i can't proof that
07:07 pegasus either way, factoring has your answer
07:07 Xela Well, if you look at my proof above I'm using a<p (which HAS to be the case because of the context of the proof) to show that a mod p = a
07:07 Xela But, yeah, using another non-trivial equation feels kind of like "cheating"
07:08 pegasus the context of the proof is fine, i'm just saying your particular set should work fine even if p < a and/or p < x
07:08 pegasus possibly "so long as p is prime", but i don't think that's a requirement
07:23 pegasus here's how i test such things: perl -e '$L = 65535; for ($a = $x = $p = 1; ($a * ($x % $p) % $p) == (($a % $p) * ($x % $p) % $p); $a = int rand $L, $x = int rand $L, $p = int(rand $L) + 1) { print "$a, $x, $p\n" } print "$a, $x, $p\n"'
07:24 pegasus if it ever stops, the last line will be proof that the theorem is wrong.
07:24 Xela Well, I do have to hand this in at some point so waiting for infinity won't work too well :)
07:25 pegasus it's far from a formal proof, but it's a good basis for a theory.
07:25 pegasus wait a few minutes and see if your computer can prove it wrong, and it's still running, so the odds are slim
07:26 pegasus i could run an exhaustive search for all a,x,p below a given N, but for a cursory look, this'll do
07:26 pegasus it's a resounding "could be"
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07:27 LemPhone evening all
07:27 pegasus hey lem
07:27 LemPhone going home early from work, feel like crap :-(
07:28 pegasus xela and me are talking set theory and commutative operations
07:28 LemPhone fun fun
07:29 Xela ...putting the "geek" into geek group? :P
07:29 pegasus that program is still running, btw
07:30 * pegasus removes the diagnostic print
07:31 pegasus zoom zomo
07:31 Xela nice, guess that means it probably is universally true
07:31 pegasus zoom, even
07:31 pegasus that's my stance on it
07:31 pegasus but i threw a bucket of tennis balls at an infinitely large wall, saw none stuck, and have declared that none of the wall has velcro on it
07:32 Xela ^^
07:32 pegasus *could* be wrong.
07:32 Xela Well, that's why we have formal proofs ^^
07:32 pegasus get on it, math boy. :)
07:32 LemPhone problem is pegasus, balls were still in the bucket
07:32 pegasus sure, and infinitely more where those came from
07:33 Xela I'm gonna have to log off, cya later!
07:33 Xela Thanks for your help :)
07:33 pegasus 'night, xela. reasonably sure that that's all commutative, though, so a proof should be simple.
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08:05 Cprossu booo lost my ip
08:06 Cprossu http://www.speedtest.net/result/1521410705.png
08:06 Cprossu 'least the speed is good
08:13 * Cprossu makes muttering about how f***ed it is that he has faster internet than the lab does
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08:28 Sythen morning all
08:37 pegasus how does this work again...
08:37 pegasus BotSteve: tell Xela http://pegasus.pimpninjas.org/xela.html
08:37 BotSteve pegasus: I'll pass that on when Xela is around.
08:37 pegasus kty
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09:02 angy_mobile Spdrunnrg55! How is the punched eye?
09:02 angy_mobile :)
09:05 Sgt_Lemming speedrunnerG55 got a shiner?
09:08 angy_mobile I IRC punched not that long ago
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10:45 Sgt_Lemming sweet
10:45 Sgt_Lemming I have a new keyring
10:46 Sgt_Lemming just desoldered the main chip from a PS2 :-D
10:46 Sythen hehe
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11:02 Seroster Arrrrr
11:03 Seroster Bored in class.
11:04 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: rjer2282 on Giant Newton's Cradle competitor emerges!
11:13 * tonsofpcs moves seroster to a classless object
11:14 * Sgt_Lemming moves tonsofpcs to an objectless class
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11:32 wannabe-zz angy!!!
11:32 wannabe-zz :p
11:36 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: is it really a class if there's no objects?
11:44 pegasus could be a class of methods
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12:19 angy and I now own and android phone :(
12:41 Electricguy 10 years ago we had Steve Jobs, Bob Hope and Johnny Cash - Now we have no Jobs, no Hope and no Cash.
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12:44 pegasus and thus we occupy wall street.
12:45 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell hackbot i got the message
12:45 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when hackbot is around.
12:45 wannabe1987 no
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12:45 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell hackbAt i got the message
12:45 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when hackbAt is around.
12:45 wannabe1987 this is not the droid you are looking for ?
12:46 * angy-droid is a bot
12:47 wannabe1987 angy-droid: tell angy that he's crazy
12:48 angy-droid he know that already
12:48 wannabe1987 lol i bet he does
12:51 angy-droid ok, I m off!
12:51 wannabe1987 awww :(
12:51 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell angy that he's never in here anymore....silly time zones!
12:51 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when angy is around.
12:51 yNos|away AHHHH!!!!
12:51 wannabe1987 ??
12:52 tgg|yNos dunno
12:52 tgg|yNos just thought i'd make some noise
12:52 wannabe1987 lol
12:52 wannabe1987 its dead in here....
12:52 tgg|yNos am testing boot/cluster init scripts
12:53 tgg|yNos mind numbing
12:53 wannabe1987 i wouldn't know...
12:53 tgg|yNos you ever watch your computer boot?
12:53 wannabe1987 yes
12:53 tgg|yNos its that exciting
12:53 wannabe1987 its a pretty screen :P
12:53 tgg|yNos x3
12:53 wannabe1987 thats what this is for....:P
12:53 tgg|yNos mine is just scrolling text saying what services started...
12:54 tgg|yNos work
12:54 tgg|yNos for scase
12:54 wannabe1987 ah
12:54 wannabe1987 but you still telecommute?
12:54 tgg|yNos pyeah
12:55 tgg|yNos its better than being at scase
12:55 tgg|yNos :D
12:55 wannabe1987 lol y
12:57 wannabe1987 whats wrong w/ being at scase?
12:59 wannabe1987 i like how my mom asks me how to do stuff on the iTouch....i've never had one, but i still know how to do stuff :P
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13:00 angy-web Boo
13:03 wannabe1987 o.O
13:03 * wannabe1987 /scared
13:04 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
13:04 BotSteve Captain's Blog 10-6-11 CNC Shoot, Toilet Repair, and Batman's Motorcycle Lesson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHUU6UNAD8s
13:04 angy-web usually, I scare Steve with that :)
13:06 tgg|yNos WOO!
13:06 angy-web yNos, my UX friend :)
13:07 tgg|yNos wannabe1987: i am looking for something else.. scase is a job right now, pays the bills, puts food on the table. i have been there 5 years and it is time to move on to something different.
13:09 wannabe1987 ah
13:10 wannabe1987 my computer sucks
13:10 wannabe1987 anyone thats here know about jolicloud?
13:10 wannabe1987 wondering if it supports plug -in-play
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13:22 angy-web soon time to go in weekend!
13:24 wannabe1987 huh?
13:24 angy-web time to move from one house to the other
13:24 wannabe1987 oooo
13:26 angy-web moving to the shore, but weather is not really nice :(
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13:31 tgg|yNos wannabe1987: i read a little on it lst night.. looks intersting.
13:31 wannabe1987 what, jolicloud?
13:31 angy-web the name reminds me of some project of a friend not that long ago
13:31 tgg|yNos i am not a fan of my data sitting on other people's machines
13:32 * Thermoelectric reboots
13:32 wannabe1987 huh?
13:32 wannabe1987 @ tgg|yNos
13:32 tgg|yNos the cloud idea is just clustering on steroids...
13:32 angy-web that's it, it's Tariq
13:33 tgg|yNos it's just rebranded for marketing
13:33 wannabe1987 ic
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13:34 angy-web P'ky!
13:35 Ponko oi oi angy
13:36 angy-web My preferred Brit!
13:36 angy-web (at least on IRC)
13:36 Ponko lol :P
13:36 Ponko charming :P
13:36 angy-web I could have went with ``lovely Brit'' ;)
13:41 Ponko :P lol
13:41 Ponko i'm flattered XD
13:41 Ponko only us 2
13:42 angy-web :)
13:42 Ponko or is there someone just sitting there watching in the dark
13:42 angy-web I'm sure there are people in the dark somewhere
13:43 angy-web Yay! Sun showing up!
13:44 wannabe1987 .
13:46 angy-web I think wannabe wants to make a point
13:46 angy-web time off!
13:47 angy-web see ya!
13:47 wannabe1987 bye
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13:53 Ponko wannabe1987
13:53 wannabe1987 Ponko
13:54 Ponko someone uses virgin media broadband on here
13:54 Ponko sythen
13:54 wannabe1987 what?
13:54 Ponko you been on all night kelly
13:54 wannabe1987 supposedly.  my other computer was
13:55 tgg|yNos batman in assless chaps
13:55 tgg|yNos it was lolworthy
13:55 wannabe1987 ewwwwwww
13:56 tgg|yNos go watch the last half of the captain's blog
13:57 wannabe1987 later.  i'm sitting by mom and grandma, they're *much* more conservative than i am
13:57 tgg|yNos he was learning to ride my daughter's bike
13:58 wannabe1987 how old is your daughter?
13:58 tgg|yNos 9
13:58 wannabe1987 nice
13:58 tgg|yNos it is a little km100
13:58 tgg|yNos little bike, big man
13:59 wannabe1987 lolololol
14:01 * Ponko still cant believe he beat Bayern Munich 11-0
14:03 Ponko that was fun
14:04 * Ponko has killed chat
14:04 wannabe1987 no
14:04 Ponko good
14:04 wannabe1987 i'm here
14:04 Ponko YAY
14:04 wannabe1987 :)
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14:04 wannabe1987 hi tonsofpcs
14:06 Ponko bored out of my mind
14:06 wannabe1987 come hang out :)
14:06 Ponko i have to leave in a minute
14:07 wannabe1987 awww
14:07 wannabe1987 computer!  why do you hate me?!
14:07 Ponko BECAUSE YOU FAIL
14:07 Ponko lol
14:08 wannabe1987 awww ok
14:08 wannabe1987 i'm gonna put a new oS on it i think
14:08 Ponko good good
14:08 wannabe1987 windows 7 is too SLOW
14:09 Ponko WHAT
14:09 Ponko it was suppose to be the opposite
14:11 wannabe1987 on a netbook?
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14:11 wannabe1987 i have 1 gb ram!!!!
14:11 wannabe1987 hi mashpriborintorg
14:11 mashpriborintorg hello
14:11 Ponko oh well its a netbook
14:12 Ponko thats the problem
14:12 mashpriborintorg I have a fried Acer laptop here
14:12 wannabe1987 from a dumpster?
14:12 mashpriborintorg dual core, 4gb ram, all the stuff
14:12 mashpriborintorg the battery is died, the HD is dead, the dvd is dead
14:12 mashpriborintorg from a colleague
14:13 mashpriborintorg it's a 2009 one and it's over dead, keyboard is missing keys, scratches everyvere
14:13 wannabe1987 odd
14:14 mashpriborintorg some poeple really don't care of their stuff
14:14 wannabe1987 its sad
14:14 mashpriborintorg it was a  high-end model tho
14:15 wannabe1987 i has a fluffy puppy....
14:15 mashpriborintorg not the entry level one with attractive price
14:15 mashpriborintorg My personnal laptop it a wonderfull Presario CQ71 :p
14:21 Ponko laters peeps
14:22 wannabe1987 the guys shirt says "turbo-mopar.com  GOT BOOST?"
14:22 wannabe1987 w/ a picture of a turbo :D
14:39 Toastdude Hi
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14:40 wannabe1987 tgg|yNos:
14:40 Toastdude WANNABE!!!!!
14:41 Toastdude Hi
14:41 wannabe1987 why are you online?
14:41 wannabe1987 its school time!
14:41 astro73 hi peoples
14:41 Toastdude ...... We have no school today :D
14:41 Toastdude Hi astro73
14:42 wannabe1987 hi astro73
14:42 Toastdude It's some teacher conference thing, so we get the day off
14:42 wannabe1987 why is tgg|yNos  not responding :P  i have a questions for him about autoclinic.....
14:42 wannabe1987 google' fucking up
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14:43 Toastdude Hi Thermoelectric
14:44 Sythen .tfwc birmingham uk
14:44 BotSteve 13°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN birmingham uk, !  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
14:44 Toastdude .tfw 61548
14:44 BotSteve 70°F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Metamora, IL!  'uh, can we trade?'
14:44 Toastdude BotSteve: Nope
14:45 wannabe1987 .tfw tgg
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14:45 BotSteve 62°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Where life is mediocre'
14:45 wannabe1987 LinuxH4x0r!
14:45 Toastdude Hi LinuxH4x0r!
14:45 LinuxH4x0r hi wannabe!
14:46 wannabe1987 never mind ynos!!! i called and figured everything out :P
14:47 wannabe1987 google fucked up and told me to go to division o.O
14:48 wannabe-afk gonna go get car parts!  bbl
14:49 Toastdude Yay, Blender 2.60 is being released!
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14:52 Toastdude Wb Cprossu
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15:04 Experimentonomen .tfw 87150
15:04 BotSteve 55°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN 87150, !  'Where life is mediocre'
15:04 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on Ritalin as a carcenogin
15:21 Sgt_Lemming .video
15:24 mashpriborintorg .stream
15:24 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://justin.tv/thegeekgroup
15:24 mashpriborintorg it's dead anyway
15:25 Sgt_Lemming was looking for the latest youtube video's mash, not the stream
15:25 Sgt_Lemming BatSteve is going to implement it at some stage
15:26 mashpriborintorg chech the log, the bot did give the link some time ago
15:26 Sgt_Lemming effort
15:27 Thermoelectric At 11:04PM (+10)
15:27 mashpriborintorg Batsteve should implement a .cprossu function, to repair the stream computer when it's down :p
15:27 Thermoelectric Hehe.
15:32 Sgt_Lemming hey Thermoelectric, I got myself a new keyring today :-P
15:33 Thermoelectric Nice...
15:34 Sgt_Lemming it's an Emotion Engine
15:34 Sgt_Lemming desoldered it from an old PS2 :-P
15:36 Thermoelectric Hahaha, awesome.
15:37 * Thermoelectric is trying to figure out how to program PIC's. :/
15:37 Sgt_Lemming with an arduino :-P
15:37 Sgt_Lemming not kidding, it's a good way of doing it
15:39 Thermoelectric Yeah, haven't progressed that far yet.
15:39 Sgt_Lemming arduino is much MUCH easier to use than PIC
15:39 Thermoelectric Yeah, I don't  doubt that, but I have PIC's on hand.
15:40 Sgt_Lemming how broke are you atm?
15:41 Thermoelectric Not  broke, I'm just too much of a scrooge to want to spent money.
15:41 Sgt_Lemming arduino is something any true geek should own at least one arduino
15:41 Sgt_Lemming I own, I think, 6
15:42 Sgt_Lemming have purchased 30 in one order before :-P
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15:45 tgg|yNos wannabe-afk: whats up?
15:45 tgg|yNos oh
15:45 Sgt_Lemming lo ynos
15:45 tgg|yNos hey there
15:46 Sgt_Lemming howsit?
15:46 Thermoelectric I must say Lemming, you are a little insane.
15:46 Sgt_Lemming what makes you say that ynos?
15:46 Sgt_Lemming gah
15:46 Sgt_Lemming Thermoelectric
15:47 Sgt_Lemming tired++
15:47 Thermoelectric Buying 30 Arduinos in one order, makes me say that.
15:47 Sgt_Lemming that was for a big project
15:48 Sgt_Lemming remember the sculpture I helped with late last year?
15:48 Thermoelectric I think so, but I'm not certain.
15:48 Sgt_Lemming kk
15:48 Sgt_Lemming it was for that
15:48 Thermoelectric I see.
15:48 Sgt_Lemming 30 tubes, one arduino in each tube
15:49 * Thermoelectric ponders.
15:49 tgg|yNos life is good. we have people fixing the window right now
15:50 Thermoelectric The window Dave broke?
15:50 tgg|yNos yeah
15:50 Thermoelectric Ah, cool.
15:51 mashpriborintorg the price of this windows will be removed from his salary :p
15:52 tgg|yNos yarp
15:52 tgg|yNos that was the running gag
15:52 Sgt_Lemming does dave have a job outside TGG?
15:52 tgg|yNos nop
15:53 Sgt_Lemming so what does he live on then?
15:54 mashpriborintorg tgg gives him good and bed as it is for Cory and Liz I believe, some kind of internship
15:54 tgg|yNos he occasionally gets paid by one of the primary donors
15:54 Sgt_Lemming kk
15:54 mashpriborintorg the awesomeness is the primary pay
15:55 tgg|yNos he doesnt live in geekhouse 4
15:55 Sgt_Lemming yeah isn't geekhouse 5 supposed to be partly for him
15:55 tgg|yNos and a few others
15:55 mashpriborintorg the top-secret GH 5
15:56 mashpriborintorg stuff is happening there but Chris does not tell it
15:57 tgg|yNos because there isnt much going on over there.
15:57 Sgt_Lemming not amazingly high on the priorities list
15:58 mashpriborintorg at least it seems the lab is almost done
15:58 Sgt_Lemming heh
15:58 Sgt_Lemming not really
15:58 Sgt_Lemming there is a lot more to be done still
15:58 Sgt_Lemming but most of the really big stuff is done
15:58 Xela How many employees (that get paid^^) does tgg have?
15:58 BotSteve Xela: I have the following messages for you:
15:58 BotSteve At 08:37Z, pegasus asked me to tell Xela http://pegasus.pimpninjas.org/xela.html
15:58 tgg|yNos gh5 is not as high on the list as getting occupancy for tgg:lsl
15:59 tgg|yNos i dont think anyone gets paid regularly
15:59 mashpriborintorg it will always be evolving
15:59 Xela what's the tell command for botsteve?
15:59 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell Xela BotSteve: tell
15:59 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when Xela is around.
16:00 Xela thx
16:00 BotSteve Xela: I have the following messages for you:
16:00 BotSteve At 15:59Z, Sgt_Lemming asked me to tell Xela BotSteve: tell
16:01 pegasus wai u need tell command
16:01 Xela Nice, you're online. Didn't see your name in the channel list
16:01 pegasus hoohoo magic
16:02 Xela Thanks for the link, I'm just looking at it but it makes sense so far :)
16:02 pegasus i tried to make it as simple as i could
16:02 wannabe1987 sorry tgg|yNos , i figured it out :P
16:03 tgg|yNos no worries
16:04 Sgt_Lemming ynos, made a new keyring today
16:04 Sgt_Lemming Emotion Engine from a PS@
16:04 Sgt_Lemming PS2 even
16:04 mashpriborintorg I had a keyring made from a pacemaker
16:04 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cprossu on Ritalin as a carcenogin
16:05 Xela pegasus: That factoring idea is great!
16:05 pegasus factoring solves a lot of problems.
16:05 mashpriborintorg and a large pacemaker collection XD
16:06 Xela keyring from a pacemaker?
16:06 mashpriborintorg yeah, it's a titanium hull
16:08 pegasus Xela: as you can see, though, it's halfway to a formal proof that the equations are equal for any a,x,p
16:08 pegasus not just prime p or p < a,x
16:09 mashpriborintorg I did send two pacemakers to the Lab, one intact and one opened, they must be somewhere
16:10 Xela Yep, I saw that and it seems to hold up
16:10 Xela gotta run
16:11 wannabe1987 why do people make these type of comments?  SERIOUSLY!
16:11 wannabe1987 see if i ever cook for you!  gah
16:11 pegasus ...who?
16:11 mashpriborintorg no cookies for bad commenters
16:12 mashpriborintorg or polonium-beryllium flavored cookie
16:12 Sgt_Lemming night all
16:13 wannabe1987 my grandma....
16:13 wannabe1987 polonium-beryllium?
16:13 wannabe1987 night Sgt_Lemming
16:13 mashpriborintorg some poisonous mixture
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16:14 mashpriborintorg hi Spark
16:16 SparkyProjects Hi
16:20 wannabe1987 mashpriborintorg:  - i see
16:20 wannabe1987 hi sparky
16:20 SparkyProjects Hi wannabe
16:21 SparkyProjects "If you want to make an apple-pie from scratch, you must first create the  universe. CARL SAGAN (1934-96)"
16:22 mashpriborintorg trying to figure out what was before the big bang, and since when, and why, can must make your brain explode
16:23 mashpriborintorg *just
16:26 SparkyProjects I've often wondered that too, A programme i watched last night said it was created from nothing.
16:26 SparkyProjects My theory is that all the previous planets and stars were sucked into a black hole (a very small and dense ball), then it exploded.
16:26 SparkyProjects But where did the previous universe come from :P
16:26 mashpriborintorg and it's in infinetly repeating cycle
16:27 SparkyProjects Remember that an atom is full of space, density is when that space is collapsed.
16:27 mashpriborintorg just like the chicken and the egg, what did appear first
16:28 mashpriborintorg compating the whole universe at the size of one single atom...
16:28 SparkyProjects Another theory is that we (the universe) are a cell in a much larger being :P
16:29 mashpriborintorg with other universes
16:29 mashpriborintorg like the holes in swiss cheese
16:30 * mashpriborintorg stack overflow brain rebooting
16:30 SparkyProjects If you really want to test your brain, how big is space ?
16:30 SparkyProjects If the universe expands forever, will it hit the edge of  space ?
16:30 mashpriborintorg as there is no friction, it should expand forever
16:33 astro73 what if it runs into another universe?
16:33 SparkyProjects According to wiki answers 'The  furthest galaxy is about 14 billion light years away', but in the 14 billion light years it took for us to see  it, surely  that star has travelled further away :D
16:34 mashpriborintorg it will merge with the other universe... unless it's something totally different
16:36 mashpriborintorg but saying that life does not exist, did not exist or will not exist anywhere else is now obsolete
16:39 SparkyProjects Depends on what yu call 'life', even a weed is life.
16:39 SparkyProjects I think they mean 'intelligent life', there are planets out there with the right ingredients for life to exist, but at what level
16:39 SparkyProjects Remember that we have creatures on earth that can survive being frozen or boiled, and can survive with harsh chemicals.
16:41 mashpriborintorg tardigrades
16:41 mashpriborintorg lovely creatures from outer space
16:44 SparkyProjects There's a frog that hibernates in snow and ice
16:44 SparkyProjects And there's creatures that live arround volcanic vents http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huTJlHMR_LE
16:45 mashpriborintorg check for the red rain story in India, it's something interesting
16:46 mashpriborintorg these deep sea species are fascinating, each time they dive they discover something new
16:47 Experimentonomen hmm my place needs a clean, theres stuff all over the floor :/
16:47 pegasus SparkyProjects: there's also frogs that turn to beef jerky in the desert and come back to life in the rainy season
16:47 mashpriborintorg Experimentonomen: Can you still open the door ?
16:47 pegasus and jellyfish that are, for all practical reasons, immortal
16:48 wannabe1987 grrr old people
16:48 pegasus jellyfish: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikip​edia/en/wiki/Turritopsis_nutricula
16:50 mashpriborintorg the chinese eat jellyfish
16:51 wannabe1987 why?  sounds not yummy
16:51 mashpriborintorg and everybody will soon do it, ddid you sea the massive amounts of jellyfish, it becoming a problem, like the plastic waste in Pacific and Mediterranean sea
16:51 mashpriborintorg it must be soft and crunchy at the same time :p
16:52 pegasus beef jerky frog: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wik​ipedia/en/wiki/Notaden_bennettii
16:52 mashpriborintorg the consistence must be a litlle like aloe vera I guess
16:53 mashpriborintorg I prefer eating kind crad
16:53 mashpriborintorg crab
16:53 mashpriborintorg *king crab
16:54 mashpriborintorg or that, must be damn good http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_crab
16:55 wannabe1987 eeeeee beee!  go away bee!
16:56 mashpriborintorg I don't mind bees, but I hate cockroaches
16:57 mashpriborintorg and beware of tropical cockroaches, they have a secret weapon... they fly oh f...k.
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16:58 mashpriborintorg gigormous flying cockroaches, who run at lightspeed when on the floor, really scary
16:58 egrsteve that is scarry
16:59 mashpriborintorg yeah time for assembling a flamethrower
17:04 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: SitkaGrown on Giant Newton's Cradle competitor emerges!.....david.a.robison.42 on Ballistics Chronograph.....david.a.robison.42 on AZ Chapter?
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17:09 wannabe1987 mashpriborintorg: we don't have flying cockroaches in MI :)  and bees are good until you're having people over outside and the poeple don't like them :P
17:11 mashpriborintorg And I guess you don't have tiger mosquitos yet.. they hurt badly
17:12 wannabe1987 no
17:12 wannabe1987 white chocolate pumpkin spice cookies
17:27 * egrsteve feels really add right now
17:27 * wannabe1987 gives you ritalin ?
17:27 egrsteve might be due to the double gulp of mtn dew I drank
17:28 * egrsteve waits for the crash
17:33 pegasus mashpriborintorg: evidence seems pretty strong that the red rain in india was not actually extraterrestrial life.
17:34 mashpriborintorg yeah, rather polluting industrial life
17:35 mashpriborintorg but still a unusual story
17:35 pegasus if lichen qualifies as industrial
17:36 wannabe1987 PEOPLE ANNOY ME
17:37 egrsteve whats new?
17:37 mashpriborintorg there were several theories, I remained onto the nasty industrial fumes explanation tho
17:39 pegasus https://secure.wikimedia.org/wiki​pedia/en/wiki/Red_rain_in_Kerala -- lichen seems to be accepted by the non-crazy folk.
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17:47 tgg|yNos mashpriborintorg: your box has arrived
17:48 Seroster FUCK
17:48 Seroster Half a kilo of LEAD solder is pretty fucking heavy when dropped on a toe
17:49 Angy-droid boo!
17:50 mashpriborintorg yay
17:50 mashpriborintorg share the candies
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17:51 tgg|yNos what candies
17:51 tgg|yNos i know nothing of candies
17:51 * tgg|yNos runs and hides
17:52 mashpriborintorg Seroster: this morning I went to the scrapyard to sell some shit... it was closed, with a paper saying "Opened today at 1 pm"
17:52 wannabe1987 bike kickstands suck
17:52 wannabe1987 candy?
17:52 wannabe1987 o.o
17:52 tgg|yNos make sure to comment on the blog about how haribo is german, not from japan
17:52 mashpriborintorg ok, I go back there at 1 am... wait waint... 1.30 am still not opened
17:53 wannabe1987 hi Angy-droid , exor674 , ajprog_laptop , etc
17:53 mashpriborintorg finally I found an other scrapyard, nearest of me and with better service
17:53 mashpriborintorg I can fill up parcels up to 2 kilos forv the same price
17:53 ajprog_laptop hi wannabe
17:54 mashpriborintorg but must never exceed 2 kilos to remain in mail shipping rates
17:56 wannabe1987 ewwww the kid was sick in the public drain....ewwwwwwww
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18:06 Experimentonomen in hope the geek group is still around by the time i have enuf cash to pay for a plane ticket, it who knows maybe 10 or 20 years from now
18:06 Experimentonomen i*
18:06 wannabe1987 lol
18:07 wannabe1987 it better be around!!!!
18:07 wannabe1987 hi tesla4d
18:07 wannabe1987 and theres a 5 inch screen tv at the sale....
18:07 Experimentonomen teeny tiny screen :P
18:07 Experimentonomen my tv is 42 inch :P
18:09 mashpriborintorg now they sell lots of 50 inch, I saw a great Sony one, 550 euro, fitted with 4 hdmi and bravia engine... no money for it :(
18:10 Seroster SparkyProjects,
18:10 mashpriborintorg I've got a crappy entry level 42 inch one, all the pice is in the lcd panel and the electronics sucks, it need several second to react when I want to change the channel :D
18:10 Seroster Internal gear shift, bike. What lube?
18:11 Seroster Chain oil to sticky?
18:11 SparkyProjects Wassup ?
18:11 Seroster WD40 probably too runny
18:11 Seroster Sewing machine oil?
18:11 Thermoelectric I remember when I went into the dentist like last week, there was a bottle of sewing machine oil on the shelves.
18:12 SparkyProjects For a pushbike ?
18:12 SparkyProjects Something we call 3 in 1 oil
18:12 mashpriborintorg They must use it for the rotary connectors in the dental instruments
18:12 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3-In-One_Oil
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18:13 mashpriborintorg maybe some day you will have a dental instrument autopsy video, I did sent one to Chris a few months ago, with a few other things
18:14 Seroster So in essence, sewing machine oil, eh? =P
18:14 Seroster Thermoelectric, They also got shit to keep running smooth =P
18:18 SparkyProjects Yep, sewing machine oil will work
18:27 Seroster So wouldnt it have ben easier to just say "sewing machine oil"?
18:27 Seroster Problem is I cant get out of second gear
18:27 Seroster Then the entire shift mechanism fell off
18:27 Seroster So I was stuck in first (no) gear
18:27 Seroster And... It was downhill from there.
18:27 Experimentonomen *CRUNCH* ?
18:28 Seroster Eh?
18:28 Seroster No
18:28 Seroster More like "Ploink"
18:28 Seroster Dunno if the gear mechanism was filled to the brim of oil
18:28 Seroster OR just a bit
18:28 Seroster So..
18:28 Seroster Yeah
18:28 SparkyProjects I think 3 in 1 is slightly thicker than SM oil
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18:29 Seroster Yeah, mineral oil should be even better, eh?
18:29 Sasha-iPhone Oh hai
18:29 SparkyProjects But it's what i used on my bike many years ago
18:29 Seroster Hi there sasha
18:29 Experimentonomen r u even supposed to use oil at all ? i mean the brakes are in there too
18:29 Seroster Experimentonomen, There was oil on the springy thing I pulled out
18:29 Sasha-iPhone You guys know what this goop is? http://pics.roomsapp.mobi/lTjZumW87t
18:29 Seroster Black nasty emulsion oilo
18:30 Seroster Sasha-iPhone, Either capacitor cum
18:30 Seroster Or glue
18:30 Seroster Most likely... Glue.
18:30 Experimentonomen black and nasty = mixed with metal dust from the brakes and the gears :P
18:30 Sasha-iPhone Oh. So I can throw that away too. On the other side  http://pics.roomsapp.mobi/nDNnKrrqBA
18:30 Seroster Then the brakes can handle oil
18:30 Seroster And this is an ultra safe bike
18:31 Seroster Handbrake, rear handbrake, and back pedal brake
18:32 Seroster Sasha-iPhone, What application is it? If it is high voltage, high heat or heavy duty it might be grease
18:32 Sasha-iPhone It is in a Logitech speaker
18:32 Seroster Ah. Glue.
18:32 Experimentonomen yeh that brown poop is glue
18:32 Seroster To keep stuff from vibrating and breaking
18:33 Sasha-iPhone Hm. So why did someone throw this 200 $ speaker?
18:33 Experimentonomen looks like the insides of a hub/router, computer or a gaming console/power supply
18:33 Seroster Sasha-iPhone, extra kromosome?
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18:33 Seroster Experimentonomen, no. A speaker.
18:34 Sasha-iPhone Here is a larger pic http://pics.roomsapp.mobi/i81mp6W6Al
18:34 Seroster Glue
18:34 Seroster To keep the wires steady
18:34 Experimentonomen as long as the cap is not bulged i wouldent worry about it
18:35 Experimentonomen unless the speaker sounds like HUMMMMMMMMM or has no bass what so ever
18:35 Sasha-iPhone Hmm. Still, I need to find why someone threw it away
18:35 Seroster When you solder wires to a PCB the solder capillaries into the strands, making the point of connection very very brittle.
18:35 Seroster Sasha-iPhone, Because they are fucking idiots, try it out, might work.
18:35 Seroster I have got over a dozen fully functioning microwaves from garbage
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18:36 Seroster And the few who were toast were for idiotic reasons, i.e. broken plate, damaged cord.
18:36 Sasha-iPhone The thing is, I need to figure how to rehook up the wires the people at the junkyard cut off
18:36 mashpriborintorg wait, sasha, here is what I did pick up from the trashpile: http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N​00/5319760146/in/set-72157625161966960
18:36 Seroster What wires ar ecut?
18:36 mashpriborintorg just need to find the matching amplifier now :D
18:37 Experimentonomen mashpriborintorg, i build my amplifiers from scratch :P
18:37 Sasha-iPhone Damn. This is what I got:  http://pics.roomsapp.mobi/P1a6JDw6ia
18:39 Sasha-iPhone Btw. These cables are cut: http://pics.roomsapp.mobi/hO0HtLc4As
18:40 Seroster PWR, GND, left, right
18:40 Experimentonomen mashpriborintorg, btw r u sure the amp isent put inside the sub ? it ususally is on those kinda systems
18:40 Seroster How many speakers are there btw?
18:40 Sasha-iPhone 2
18:40 Seroster How many cones in each speaker?
18:40 Seroster One?
18:41 mashpriborintorg Yes it's a powered sub, fully working
18:41 mashpriborintorg They cut the cables to prevent reuse
18:41 Seroster Red and black are almost certanly the power feeds, and the four other are to the speakers. The odd thing is you could have one wire to each speaker and a shared ground (wich would also be the shield)
18:42 Sasha-iPhone Here is what it looks like http://pics.roomsapp.mobi/hHHTowKEn0
18:42 Seroster mashpriborintorg, Quite right. Now, how do we reuse this thing he got? =P
18:42 Seroster Sasha-iPhone, I aint an audio dude, I would just throw it out again =P
18:43 wannabe1987 we had nerdy moms come through o.O  i'm wearing my star wars shirt, they liked it :D
18:43 Experimentonomen mashpriborintorg, cut cables would be no prollem for me, unless its more than like 5 where theres serial data and aother digital shit which would blow up the electronics with just one wire wired wrong
18:44 mashpriborintorg and some missing special plug issues :/
18:44 mashpriborintorg not impossible to solve but always annoying
18:44 Experimentonomen special plugs ? me hardwire or change to commonly available plugs
18:45 Experimentonomen http://experimentonomen.imgur.com/ <-- check my audio stuff there, yeh its not pretty but atleast it works and doesent use special custom piece of shit plugs
18:47 Sasha-iPhone I think that this is what the wires are for  http://pics.roomsapp.mobi/AJg3TBfM1W
18:48 Experimentonomen i would have left that plastic junk behind, not worth bringing back to life, sound quality is just meh
18:49 Experimentonomen all tinny and plasticy
18:49 mashpriborintorg yeah crap
18:49 Experimentonomen my philosofy: if a speaker aint a wooden box, it dont belong in a stereo system
18:50 Sasha-iPhone It's Logitech...
18:50 mashpriborintorg better even, a concrete box
18:50 Experimentonomen mashpriborintorg, if u have a floor that can handle the weight :P
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18:51 mashpriborintorg or build the speakers into the walls directly
18:52 Experimentonomen mashpriborintorg, neighbours and family members may not approve as other rooms turn into the speaker boxes :/
18:52 Sasha-iPhone Oh by the way, does this have any value:  http://pics.roomsapp.mobi/1iY3B4N7LT
18:53 mashpriborintorg if it's a vintage headset it might be good
18:53 Sasha-iPhone Junk yard find too
18:53 mashpriborintorg maybe not worth a lot but much better than the crap you will get in stores
18:54 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/vRBNO.jpg <-- these are mine and i think they sound pretty good for not even beeing intended for music but rather the *beep**beep* for a cable seeking instrument
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18:55 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/k8wah.jpg <-- some ppl tell me i look like a airport worker when wearing them
18:56 mashpriborintorg you rather look like a geek playing WOW :p
18:57 Sasha-iPhone ^ what he said :D
18:58 Experimentonomen i've never even touched WoW, i've been playing the grand theft auto series for the past 10 years, then got into minecraft for a few months and after that some of the megaman series games
18:58 mashpriborintorg we should do a contest for the guy who owns the biggest amount of stuff http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683​169@N00/2293963034/in/photostream/
18:59 mashpriborintorg I stopped playing after TR and Red alert, no more time for playing
19:00 Experimentonomen http://experimentonomen.imgur.com/storage <-- i think i win on the most stuff part, and i have more tucked away in closets and cupboards
19:00 Sythen evening all
19:00 Experimentonomen g'day Sythen
19:00 Sythen hellooooo
19:00 Sythen its been 48 hours since my last smoke
19:01 mashpriborintorg I'm doing the inventory of my collection
19:01 Sythen nice
19:01 Electricguy its been more than 19 years since my last smoke. (EG is 19)
19:01 mashpriborintorg avionics - military - pro electronics: more than 500 items
19:01 Sythen you cant say that if you havent smoked lol
19:01 mashpriborintorg analog and digital cameras, 100
19:01 Electricguy gah.. not going to enter the stuff contest.. going to take like 2 days to take pics of everything... -,-
19:02 Experimentonomen i've never even touched a ciggy
19:02 mashpriborintorg pacemakers,  200 I think, and 200 cellphones
19:02 mashpriborintorg not counting at all the crap items ans loose parts
19:03 * Electricguy got about 16000 resistors in one box... XD and i got 6 more boxes also full with resistors... it MIGHT be good to have sometime :P
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19:03 Experimentonomen and i still have a car load of stuff left at my old adress which i havent yet been able to move since i have nowhere of putting it so far
19:04 mashpriborintorg I have jars full of screws, but you never have enough screws
19:04 Electricguy word
19:04 mashpriborintorg most of my stuff is in grandma garage :/
19:05 Experimentonomen i find M3 nuts to be the most scarce item :/
19:05 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: jaaz95 on Ritalin as a carcenogin
19:05 mashpriborintorg not for long anymore, i'm going to have my own little house in approx 1 year :D
19:05 Electricguy i got my room  full, the attic full and half of the garage full of stuff... XD should really do a cleanout someday...
19:05 Experimentonomen and screws are almost always too short or too long
19:05 Electricguy oh, and the lab full with even more shit...
19:06 mashpriborintorg for now, it's jsut a hole in the ground tho
19:07 mashpriborintorg I have colored screws, plastic screws, reverse treaded screws, even excentric screws
19:07 mashpriborintorg the stuff you will not find at the hardware store
19:08 Experimentonomen Electricguy's storage is what mine used to be before i took around 5-10 completely to the roof filled with barely enuf space left for the driver to the scrapyard, each load so heavy that the car felt like a van or even a bus to drive
19:09 Experimentonomen stuff that took like a years with of wage from work to get, but in the same amount of time ended up as useless scrap metal
19:09 wannabe1987 skateboards are really loud
19:11 Experimentonomen ask the city guys to cut grooves in the pavement so the cant ride their skateboards :P
19:11 wannabe1987 no, its in the garage
19:12 wannabe1987 dog does not like men in hats
19:12 wannabe1987 its weird
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19:15 lwq-zzZZZzzZzzZZ hi
19:15 lwq1996 hi
19:21 Experimentonomen g'day sleepy lwq1996
19:22 lwq1996 yeah im tired
19:24 Experimentonomen so am i
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19:24 Experimentonomen i barely made it through work this week
19:25 Experimentonomen felt all drained of energy
19:25 lwq1996 ik me too
19:27 Experimentonomen too bad i cant just head for a spike/bottomless pit to restart the level like in a video game to get full health back
19:28 mashpriborintorg yesterday, in a 2 hours range, I made 900 letters in word-excel mailmergre from a Business object request, stamped 10 kilos of mail, went to a shop for debugging computers, went back to the company home and attacked a access rights problem on a server
19:28 mashpriborintorg not even the time to go at the toilets
19:28 Experimentonomen and im not allowed to talk about my work
19:29 mashpriborintorg it's nuclear secret
19:32 mashpriborintorg one of the weirdish pcbs I've ever seen: http://www.leningrad.su/museum/show_big.php?n=73
19:33 wannabe1987 .tfw tgg
19:33 BotSteve 81°F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'times you wish you didn't have leather seats'
19:34 mashpriborintorg warm weather did stop suddenly here, until last week it was very hot, better than july-august
19:38 injektion .tfw 30281
19:38 BotSteve 77°F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Stockbridge, GA!  'It's that kind of day where you want zip off pants, until you realize how much of a jackass you look like in them.'
19:38 wannabe1987 my brother wanted to know
19:38 wannabe1987 wait its hotter in MI than GA?
19:38 injektion Hell forae over
19:38 injektion froze*
19:49 lwq1996 it gona take me two hours to watch the captains blog if people dont stop bothering me T.T
19:50 Experimentonomen mashpriborintorg, looks like a thin film pcb
19:51 mashpriborintorg the base material is weird, looks like glass
19:51 mashpriborintorg and the ICs are alien made
19:51 Experimentonomen i'd say that calculator was way ahead of its time
19:51 mashpriborintorg never seem this pcb IRL
19:51 Experimentonomen its just sheets of mylar or other plastic with the copper traces on and between them
19:52 Experimentonomen same deal as those flex cables on some harddrives
19:52 mashpriborintorg making electronic calculators was a huge technical challenge for the soviets
19:53 mashpriborintorg pocket size was not the usual design of soviet electronics :D
19:53 Experimentonomen my guess is they wanned to cut the cost a bit by not having to use a rigid material like phenolic, bakelite or fibreglass epoxy boards
19:54 mashpriborintorg for instance, they did ise diecast metal instead of folded metal sheet
19:55 Experimentonomen though most russian stuff is kinda strange compared to the rest of the world, they always use their own custom components rather than mass produced stuff like all others
19:55 Experimentonomen atleast did back in the days
19:55 Experimentonomen nowdays i think they use the mass produced stuff like the rest of the world
19:56 mashpriborintorg http://www.flickr.com/photo​s/64683169@N00/2407450522/ xD
19:56 mashpriborintorg moderm stuff is a mix of importedc and domestic parts
19:57 mashpriborintorg they still have enormous stocks of parts from the soviet era
19:57 Experimentonomen however the russians knew what quality was
19:58 mashpriborintorg they could make really good or really shit
19:58 Experimentonomen russian made instruments are completely different animals compared to the rest of the world
19:58 mashpriborintorg their plastics were awfull
19:58 Experimentonomen its special and/or custom everything
19:59 Experimentonomen for their transistors, there are no mass produced equivalents, to replace them when they fail
19:59 mashpriborintorg over products from earten countries were weird also, i have sell east geman, polish and czech electronics,
20:00 mashpriborintorg each one had his own specificities
20:00 mashpriborintorg *eastern
20:00 Experimentonomen i have a russian transformers from a instrument that had a atable multivibrator with two transistors, no transistors i've tried could make it work other than the russian ones it came with
20:01 mashpriborintorg east-german stuff was very crappy
20:01 Experimentonomen well i can make it oscillate but cannot pull any power off it
20:01 mashpriborintorg germanium transistor maybe ?
20:01 Experimentonomen could be
20:02 mashpriborintorg check if you find the part onto www.155la3.ru
20:02 mashpriborintorg and then translate the text, it should give some clues
20:02 Experimentonomen but the scematic had regular generic PNP symbols if im not mistaken, i have since thrown away the book that came with the instrument since i scrapped it
20:03 Experimentonomen i think germanium transistors had their own symbol since they are different from regular npn/pnp ones
20:04 Experimentonomen though vertical and lateral mosfets share symbols despite beeing totally different from each other
20:05 Experimentonomen anyways the transformer is all that remains, the rest is gone
20:05 mashpriborintorg their canned oil paper capacitors are good, worth to keep
20:06 mashpriborintorg also the teflon ones, much more rarely seen
20:06 Experimentonomen the transformer, a hv multiplier and the CRT was the only things i kept from that instrument
20:06 Experimentonomen the rest went in the e-scrap bin
20:06 mashpriborintorg forget the electrolytics they're shit ;p
20:07 mashpriborintorg I have kilos of russian componants
20:07 Experimentonomen russian components are useless, no datasheets to be found
20:08 mashpriborintorg some websites givez them but it's hard to find them
20:08 Experimentonomen they were custom made for special applications, not general purpose like the mass produced struff
20:08 mashpriborintorg have to google in cyrillic
20:08 mashpriborintorg very suctom made for very special apps
20:09 mashpriborintorg check this forum, some photos are worth to see http://offtop.ru/dustyattic/
20:09 mashpriborintorg the weirdish stuff on earth
20:11 mashpriborintorg well; i have to go
20:11 mashpriborintorg cheers
20:12 Experimentonomen and im headin to bed, nite peepz
20:17 Sasha-iPhone See you Experimentonomen
20:25 wannabe1987 night
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20:33 Sythen so, whats goin on?
20:39 injektion "Please be cautioned that I am seeking legal council about if I can start charging a reasonable fee for missed or canceled appointments because appointments are like contracts and if any party breaks the contract there are always legal remedies. :)"
20:40 tonsofpcs ?
20:40 injektion If you want to know more PM me
20:40 tonsofpcs more about what?
20:41 injektion If you want clarification about what I said
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20:41 wannabe-zz Sythen - not much is going on here, over by you?
20:41 injektion Making any appointment with a person or businesss can be classified as a legal contract
20:41 wannabe-zz LeeWQueen1996!  Toastdude!
20:42 Toastdude wannabe-zz!
20:42 Toastdude wannabe-dell!
20:42 wannabe-dell hi
20:42 wannabe-dell wannabe1987 is upstairs
20:42 wannabe-dell ...
20:42 Sythen not much wannabe1987
20:43 injektion The fee in question I am going to charge is $1000USD because for a business I think that is an acceptable amount
20:43 wannabe-dell fee for what, injektion?
20:43 injektion Missed or canceled appointments
20:44 wannabe-dell ah
20:44 wannabe-dell you run a business now?
20:44 injektion No
20:45 injektion It doesn't matter because both parties have to uphold their end of the contract. I have to go the appointment and the woman who made it has to show up as well
20:45 tonsofpcs injektion: and this will be in your booking terms?
20:45 wannabe-dell yeah, it sucks when they don't show up.  or are late and are flippant about making *you* wait for *your* appt with *them*
20:46 wannabe-dell your time is money as well!
20:46 injektion This is a business that has a state contract
20:46 wannabe-dell i feel like a nap would be good *right* now....but i don't feel like napping.
20:47 wannabe-dell i'm too lazy o.o
20:48 tonsofpcs injektion: many businesses have state contracts
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20:48 wannabe-dell angy!
20:48 angy wannabe!
20:48 BotSteve angy: I have the following messages for you:
20:48 BotSteve At 12:51Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell angy that he's never in here anymore....silly time zones!
20:48 injektion tonsofpcs, exactly which is why they are money targets :)
20:48 Toastdude ANGY!!
20:48 angy Toasty!
20:48 * Toastdude hugs angy
20:48 * angy hugs Toastdude
20:49 Toastdude :D\
20:49 tonsofpcs uh..... having a state contract doesn't make you have money
20:50 injektion You've obviously never have been to Georgia
20:50 angy wannabe-dell: the far that I'm not that present is not only due to the timezones, lots and lots of things to take care of
20:51 wannabe-dell ah
20:51 wannabe-dell where in france r u atm?
20:52 angy ocean side of the Presqu'île de Rhuys
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20:53 Toastdude Hi Hackbat
20:53 Hackbat heyo guys
20:53 BotSteve Hackbat: I have the following messages for you:
20:53 BotSteve At 12:45Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell Hackbat i got the message
20:53 Hackbat lol
20:53 Hackbat I was fucking around with the memoserv
20:53 Hackbat found it the other day
20:54 Hackbat oh btw guys
20:54 Hackbat http://www.thinkgeek.com/inte​rests/giftsforhim/7048/#tabs
20:54 Hackbat how good of a deal is that?
20:54 Hackbat I think it's a good deal
20:54 Hackbat but I can't be sure
20:55 wannabe-dell looks cool
20:55 Seroster PHEW
20:55 Toastdude Hi Seroster
20:55 Seroster Fuck i got a heartbeat
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20:56 Seroster Here in sweden it's legal to snatch stuff that is outside the container
20:56 Seroster It is illegal to snatch whatever is IN the dumpster
20:56 * angy kills Seroster's heartbeat
20:56 Seroster If you take it out of the dumpster they can't prove it was ever inside it
20:56 angy better without it
20:56 Seroster Hence... Yeah.
20:56 Seroster I saw this sewing machine inside the dumpster
20:56 Seroster The kind my girlfriend got
20:57 Seroster The one with the broken pedal and in need of some spare parts
20:57 Seroster So I jumped in, started pulling it out and a few seconds later I heard "Hello there..." With the kind of testosterone soaked voice that tells you one thing and one thing only: Security guard. And a security guard is only a person that is too stupid to become a cop
20:58 Hackbat nah serostar
20:58 Seroster *FAHAHAHAAAAAK!*'
20:58 Hackbat they just didn't pass the psych test
20:58 Seroster I.E too fucking stupid
20:58 Hackbat they'd probally cut the balls off a guy trying to steal a car
20:58 Hackbat fucking insane
20:58 Hackbat they'd stab a child
20:59 Hackbat I kid
20:59 Seroster Most of them are people who can't achieve autority without being given it.
20:59 Hackbat my ex boyfirend was one :P
20:59 Hackbat he just wanted a job
20:59 Hackbat though he was dannish so :P
20:59 Seroster So I was like "Erm, sorry, sir, I didnt know you weren't allowed to, I've seen so many people doing it" and left hastily
21:00 wannabe-dell Hackbat = girl?
21:00 Hackbat nah
21:00 wannabe-dell ok
21:00 wannabe-dell jw
21:00 Hackbat you should of hid under the trash until he left
21:01 Seroster wannabe-dell, he's a fudgepacker =)
21:01 wannabe-dell lol  "we got a body in here!"
21:01 wannabe-dell Seroster i figured that out
21:01 Hackbat D:<
21:01 Seroster Hackbat, I didnt see him until too late
21:01 Hackbat I will stab you bitch
21:01 Seroster Hackbat, We all love fudgepackers.
21:01 wannabe-dell he's european, its common over there
21:01 Hackbat huh?
21:01 Seroster How would we get the fudge into the tiny wrappers if it wasnt for people like you?
21:01 Hackbat I'm american
21:02 Hackbat actually
21:02 wannabe-dell no, Seroster is european
21:02 Hackbat ah
21:02 Hackbat anyway
21:02 wannabe-dell congrats on being from here...
21:02 Seroster http://croftsoft.blogg.se/images​/2010/maple-fudge-2_99196321.jpg
21:02 Hackbat It's funny
21:02 Seroster Most of fudgepacking is done by machines nowday, wich is a shame.
21:02 angy don't talk about maple products! I can't bear them anymore
21:02 wannabe-dell o.o
21:02 Hackbat cause my partner is going to be starting a job at a shipping warehouse
21:02 Hackbat that sells fudge
21:02 wannabe-dell lol
21:03 Hackbat and he's a Pre packer
21:03 Seroster We all love packed fudge, that's the essence of it =)
21:03 Seroster Hackbat, your ex boyfriend was a security guard you say?
21:03 Seroster Wanna know why he'
21:03 Seroster s your EX boyfriend?
21:04 Hackbat cause he lived in denmark
21:04 Hackbat and I was 16
21:04 Hackbat and he was 22
21:04 Hackbat and I was stupid
21:04 Seroster '-'
21:04 wannabe-dell poor Seroster, he didn't get to use his joke....
21:04 Seroster The danes are not only insane like swedes, they are MEAN bastards
21:05 Seroster Mean nazi fat bastards :c
21:05 * angy cuddles Seroster
21:05 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Slurpy on Giant Newton's Cradle competitor emerges!.....MattG on Ballistics Chronograph
21:05 Hackbat thet's the area below them
21:05 Hackbat BOTSTEVE! you dick
21:05 wannabe-dell you know, i think if we got all of us in IRL, we'd be fuckingnuts
21:05 Seroster Hackbat, Germans are too scared of the past to be nazis, the danes don't have that kind of boundries.
21:07 wannabe-dell grandma: how do you know so many international people?  me: the internet, mainly safe chatrooms.  geeky ones really
21:07 Seroster You should have ben mean to her
21:07 Seroster "I met them during unprotected orgies"
21:07 wannabe-dell its the internet grandma, i know everyone!
21:08 wannabe-dell yeah, no
21:08 wannabe-dell she's way* more conservitive than i am
21:09 wannabe-dell and i'm going to go home now....
21:09 wannabe-dell bye bbl
21:09 angy I don't think the Seroster way is the way to go. he don't like snails!
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21:17 * angy hugs Toastdude
21:17 * Toastdude hugs angy
21:18 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​6ShapkD85Go&amp;feature=related
21:18 Seroster Last few seconds
21:18 Seroster MOTHER FUCKER!
21:18 Seroster DIE!
21:18 Seroster DIE DIE DIE OF EVERY DISEASE KNOWN TO MAN!
21:18 Seroster NOW!
21:19 Sythen lol
21:19 angy that angry?
21:20 Seroster What
21:20 Seroster He says, about the fucking MAGNETRON in a microwave
21:20 Seroster "Don't take this part apart, this is what contains the radiation"
21:21 Seroster I'm gonna sue that bastard, because now there is a big fucking hole in my table due to the immense headdesk I had to do
21:21 angy I'll add all the unknown disease in a joint effort
21:21 Seroster .w magnetron
21:21 BotSteve "The cavity magnetron is a high-powered vacuum tube that generates microwaves using the interaction of a stream of electrons with a magnetic field." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetron
21:22 Seroster And people wonder why the economy is in the shitter..
21:22 angy let's do a croisade and kill all morons
21:26 * LeeWQueen1996 is going to a football game
21:26 LeeWQueen1996 ttyl
21:32 Hackbat O_O
21:33 Hackbat Bacon costed 38 cents a pound in the 1930's
21:33 angy don't forget to actualize the $ od the era to today's one
21:33 Hackbat I know...
21:34 Hackbat but if I had the access to era accuarate currency
21:34 Hackbat and a time machine
21:34 Hackbat so much bacon
21:34 angy what would you do with it?
21:37 Hackbat die a early death
21:37 Hackbat 23 cents for a pound of sharp chedder too!
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22:11 tlockley anyone here ever watch smash lab?
22:13 Toastdude Yep!
22:14 Toastdude Why?
22:14 tlockley started watching again on netflix
22:14 tlockley forgot how awsome it was
22:15 Toastdude Ikr?
22:15 tlockley huh
22:19 injektion I need a fucking roku box
22:19 tonsofpcs injektion: buy me a blendtec blender and I'll buy you a roku box
22:20 master0fmonks Somebody is getting screwed in that deal.
22:21 injektion Yeah
22:21 injektion I am
22:22 master0fmonks I wasn't pointing fingers.
22:22 astro73 yes. Blendtec can blend roku. What can roku do to blendtec?
22:25 astro73 BotSteve: tell BatSteve that I'll have a new version of cropper ready as soon as I get a windows installer going.
22:25 BotSteve astro73: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
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22:35 wannabe-dell CaptainNiobe?
22:36 Toastdude wannabe-dell!
22:37 * wannabe1987 needs a nap. like a 20 minute one. so in 20 minutes, she will take one....
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22:59 Hackbat god I love food
23:00 tlockley ineeed
23:00 tlockley *indeed
23:00 astro73 food is good.
23:00 * Hackbat has fryed rice with chicken
23:00 tlockley just ask kelly
23:01 Hackbat and steamed broccoli
23:10 tonsofpcs phood
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23:10 rockfish whats the geekgroup up to these days?
23:11 tlockley well acording to the captains blog, painting and cleaning
23:11 tlockley but thats just GR
23:11 tonsofpcs roughly two and a half stories
23:11 rockfish I miss watching them work
23:11 tlockley on the stream?
23:12 rockfish yup
23:12 tlockley yah, i guess the stream PC is still in a state of flux
23:12 tlockley Cprossu you alive?
23:13 tonsofpcs *shakes Cprossu*
23:13 tlockley tgg|yNos: ping
23:15 tlockley heh
23:17 ajprog_laptop tlockley: he left awhile ago
23:17 tlockley ah
23:17 tlockley hows it going there jeff?
23:17 tlockley it is jeff right?
23:24 tlockley aw poop i scared everyone away
23:40 wannabe1987 .
23:40 tlockley hey wannabe1987
23:40 astro73 it's the cookie lady!
23:40 wannabe-afk sorry, gotta run :P
23:40 tlockley cya
23:40 wannabe-afk bringing cookies to calvin :P
23:40 astro73 no cookies? :(
23:40 astro73 lol
23:40 wannabe-afk cookiesare in jenison @ my parents
23:41 astro73 clearly, you should bring cookies to brittany, then!
23:41 astro73 she lives in jenison
23:41 wannabe-afk no.  i was there alllll day yesterday
23:41 wannabe-afk i'm in GR
23:41 wannabe-afk and almost allllll day today
23:42 wannabe-afk jenison is great
23:42 BatSteve yo
23:42 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
23:42 BotSteve At 22:25Z, astro73 asked me to tell BatSteve that I'll have a new version of cropper ready as soon as I get a windows installer going.
23:42 tlockley hey BatSteve
23:43 BatSteve hey tlockley
23:43 BatSteve What's up?
23:43 tlockley not too much, watching some smash lab
23:43 tlockley trying to find a job still
23:44 astro73 job hunting is worse than deer hunting
23:44 tlockley here i will respectfully disagree
23:44 tlockley but in general yes
23:44 astro73 ok, i've never gone hunting
23:45 tlockley same here, unless you caount running them over with a car as hunting
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23:45 tlockley the deer on Nantucket fuck worse than bunnies
23:45 injektion What's this about Nantucket?
23:45 tlockley I live on Nantucket, i need a job, and i hit deer with my car
23:46 tlockley the latter part is sora a lie
23:46 tlockley i dont hit deer cause thats expensive
23:46 tlockley but there are LOTS of deer on Nantucket
23:46 injektion Living in Nantucket seems like  a logistical nightmare
23:46 BatSteve BotSteve: tell injektion that I'm interested in this "appointments as contracts" idea, and I'm curious to know if it would hold up in court.
23:46 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when injektion is around.
23:46 tlockley meh, it depends
23:46 BatSteve thanks BotSteve
23:46 BotSteve Happy to help, BatSteve
23:47 injektion lol
23:47 BotSteve injektion: I have the following messages for you:
23:47 BotSteve At 23:46Z, BatSteve asked me to tell injektion that I'm interested in this "appointments as contracts" idea, and I'm curious to know if it would hold up in court.
23:47 BatSteve oh, hey, you're back
23:47 BatSteve cool
23:47 tlockley anything that isnt sold on nantucket can be shipped in
23:47 tlockley but USPS is useless
23:47 tlockley FedEx never delivers
23:47 tlockley and UPS is expensive
23:48 injektion BatSteve, is there any way to make that take up one line instead of 2?
23:48 BatSteve You mean make the tell occur on one line instead of having the "I have the following messages for you" line first?
23:48 injektion Combine them into 1 line
23:49 tlockley streamlining the bot?
23:49 BatSteve Yes, that's how it was in an earlier version of BotSteve.  It was universally hated.
23:49 astro73 tlockley: you have a funny definition of "can be shipped in"
23:49 BatSteve Which is why there is now a header line.
23:49 injektion ok
23:49 tlockley astro73 Nantucket has a funny definition of everything
23:50 tlockley like property value
23:50 BatSteve Do you have a reason why one line would be preferable?
23:50 injektion I hate getting highlighted more than once
23:51 tlockley my house is valued at over $1M where it would be worth almost 1/8 of that value elsewhere
23:51 BatSteve ah, gotcha
23:51 BatSteve Sorry about that.
23:52 tlockley BatSteve: at the risk of complicating things, would it be possible to customize the bot depending on the nick?
23:52 injektion One of the GUI things I never liked about OS X was the dock icon bouncing when an app needs attention
23:52 BatSteve Almost anything is possible.  The question is how much work I have to do versus how popular the change is.
23:52 master0fmonks Son of a spatula monger.
23:52 tlockley like mainting a flat file or sqlite db of regestered nicks
23:53 tlockley i get ya BatSteve
23:53 SparkyProjects Batsteve, would it be better as 'asked me to tell you that ....'
23:53 SparkyProjects Seeing as the person has already been alerted
23:53 Sgt_Lemming sigh
23:54 Sgt_Lemming put some washing on last night, hung it out before I went to bed expecting it to be nice and dry this morning
23:54 Sgt_Lemming .weather ybbn
23:54 tlockley rainy day?
23:54 BotSteve Cloudy, 16℃, 1011mb, Light Showers of Rain, In the vicinity: Showers, Moderate breeze 15kt (↑) - YBBN, 23:30Z
23:54 Sgt_Lemming yup
23:54 tlockley ouch
23:55 masterofmonks I am so glad Nurdrage is back.
23:55 BatSteve SparkyProjects: I think we tried that too.  I got complaints that the verbiage was wrong.  For example, At 23:46Z, BatSteve asked me to tell you that I'm interested in this "appointments as contracts" idea, and I'm curious to know if it would hold up in court.
23:55 BatSteve that works pretty good
23:55 BatSteve but what if I said
23:55 BatSteve BotSteve: tell SparkyProjects that he's an idiot and the son of a three-toothed goat farmer
23:55 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when SparkyProjects is around.
23:56 SparkyProjects "BatSteve: I'll pass that on when he/she is around
23:56 BotSteve SparkyProjects: I have the following messages for you:
23:56 BotSteve At 23:55Z, BatSteve asked me to tell SparkyProjects that he's an idiot and the son of a three-toothed goat farmer
23:56 BatSteve what you'd get would be: BatSteve asked me to tell you that he's an idiot and the son of a three-toothed goat farmer
23:56 tlockley hurayh english
23:56 BatSteve We don't know whether the "he" is me being an idiot, or you being an idiot
23:57 BatSteve See what I mean?
23:57 SparkyProjects Actually, it only highlights twice, i thought it would ding twice but it doesn't, i don't see a problem with the current system
23:57 BatSteve woot
23:58 BatSteve another satisfied customer
23:58 tlockley depends on client
23:58 SparkyProjects Pidgin for me
23:58 tlockley_test BotSteve: tell tlockley that something should happen
23:58 BotSteve tlockley_test: I'll pass that on when tlockley is around.
23:59 tlockley heyo
23:59 BotSteve tlockley: I have the following messages for you:
23:59 BotSteve At 23:58Z, tlockley_test asked me to tell tlockley that something should happen
23:59 BatSteve injektion: I'm no expert, but my sister has done some work with contract law before.  I'm pretty sure (though I haven't asked her) that the only thing you would be entitled to if someone broke a "contract" for a meeting is that you wouldn't have to show up for the meeting yourself.
23:59 tlockley yah SparkyProjects my client dings for every highlight

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