Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-10-08

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00:00 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juFnIIEe4Vc
00:01 tlockley and he starts the video with a fart
00:01 tlockley classy
00:01 masterofmonks Well he is photonic Induction...
00:01 tlockley indeed
00:01 tlockley the capactor things he has done are great
00:02 masterofmonks This video is actually very good.
00:02 tlockley i have never really run into a VFD here in the states
00:03 injektion I've seen plenty of VFDs at work
00:03 tlockley well i am usuially stuck in a server closet not a machine room
00:03 SparkyProjects In one building we had 48 VFD's
00:04 tlockley what for?
00:04 injektion tlockley, I'd rather be stuck in the server closet :P
00:04 Photon939 VFDs are everywhere these days
00:04 tlockley i wish i had one to be stuck in ATM
00:04 Photon939 and it makes sense, they can give huge power savings
00:05 SparkyProjects It was a building with many rooms, each had an input and output fan, pluse  the corridors also had in and out fans, all to balance the air
00:05 tlockley crazy sparky
00:06 tlockley can you use VFDs for HP intensive tasks?
00:06 SparkyProjects actually, i think it was more like 84 VFD's, there was around 40 rooms plus 4 corridors
00:06 Photon939 tlockley: sure
00:07 Photon939 I've seen large chillers that have VFDs on the compressor
00:07 Photon939 those things are probably 100-200 HP
00:07 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: I assume that as the speed of the drive increases the torque goes down?
00:08 mystery05 joined #thegeekgroup
00:08 SparkyProjects Inverters give full power through the range
00:08 masterofmonks Ah, I see.
00:09 mystery05 is captain boden online?
00:09 Sgt_Lemming .seen captainboden
00:09 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I last saw captainboden 586.34 hours ago at 2011-09-13 13:48:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:09:20 UTC
00:09 tlockley he is on FB
00:09 mystery05 or maybe catching up on his drumming skills? lol
00:09 mystery05 http://www.spike.com/video-clips/7ppvq8/chris-boden-gets-beat-by-a-10-year-old-drum-prodigy
00:10 SparkyProjects The buiding we had was a clean corridor, a dirty corridor, and rooms between the corridors, the idea was that if a door was open, the air would go from clean to dirty
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00:10 tlockley damn thats old looking
00:10 SparkyProjects A balanced system that also sensed the pressures and adjusted accordingly
00:10 tlockley he kinda look slike keanu reeves
00:11 masterofmonks http://imgur.com/jccJG
00:11 mystery05 the matrix ha ha
00:11 tlockley mom, HEHE
00:12 BatSteve holy cow this is old
00:12 BatSteve This is when Duck still had long hair
00:12 BatSteve mystery05: where did you find this?
00:12 tlockley thats one hell of a drum kit
00:12 mystery05 on the internet
00:12 BatSteve What lab is this?  This isn't the Heavy Lab
00:13 BatSteve I don't *think* this is even Schippers.
00:16 SparkyProjects Either he was at a school, or it might be ionia st
00:16 SparkyProjects i guess the latter
00:16 BatSteve I guarantee this is no school, with that wiring.
00:16 tlockley he said it was his kit
00:17 BatSteve it might be ionia street.  Which is weird, because it says it was posted in Feb 2006.
00:17 BatSteve And at that point I think Schippers and the Heavy were operating.
00:17 tlockley some random bro probably ripped it and uploaded it
00:17 Sgt_Lemming wouldn't that be kzoo?
00:17 westmi joined #thegeekgroup
00:17 SparkyProjects he was at ionia in 1999, when did they move to kzoo ?
00:18 BatSteve Pretty sure it was around 2003.
00:18 Sgt_Lemming Kzoo was 2005 I think
00:18 Sgt_Lemming cause they'd been there about 3 or 4 years by the time the tax shit hit the fan
00:20 tlockley tax shit?
00:20 BatSteve I feel like I saw Geekmobile-3 in kalamazoo before that though.  But memory is a funny thing, and I could easily be wrong.
00:20 Sgt_Lemming go back and watch the videos about what kzoo town council did regards tax
00:21 SparkyProjects on the TGG vids, search for 'Tax war'
00:21 mystery05 http://www.videosurf.com/video/chris-boden-basic-warm-up-63588120
00:23 mystery05 here chris has his hair cut lol..into a mohawk
00:23 mystery05 http://www.videosurf.com/video/klystron-part-1-77460837
00:23 mystery05 how old would this video be?
00:24 SparkyProjects 2009 according to youtube
00:24 mystery05 12 horse power pressure washer? wow! a few more horses and you too could have a hair cut like chris
00:24 SparkyProjects That was kzoo
00:24 Sgt_Lemming "Uploaded by thegeekgroup on Jun 13, 2009"
00:25 Sgt_Lemming helps when you look at the youtube page, rather than some dodgy rehost
00:25 BatSteve That looks like the backyard of the Heavy Lab.
00:25 BatSteve So Kzoo
00:33 tlockley the $20 vid was shippers ln. as confirmed by chris
00:35 astro73 anyone know how to contact moose? I have a pile of wood, and i'm curious if she'd be interested
00:35 SparkyProjects masterofmonks, going back to the VFD and it's torque, modern production lines use VFD, they can even slow down the production process, so they can examine it in slow motion to see what is happening, the same torque is still required no matter what the speed.
00:35 masterofmonks I see.
00:36 SparkyProjects astro73 lis@
00:36 alrbgg joined #thegeekgroup
00:36 astro73 SparkyProjects: thanks
00:36 alrbgg hello
00:36 masterofmonks I know with things like tesla turbines the faster they spin the lower the torque, though that may be more of an exception than a rule.
00:37 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, one of the guys at the hackerspace just bought himself a 5Kw 6500 rpm three phase motor
00:37 Sgt_Lemming it's for a concrete grinding machine
00:37 alrbgg this is ynos' daughter
00:37 Sgt_Lemming lo annie
00:38 masterofmonks Hello alrbgg
00:38 alrbgg well hi
00:38 tlockley hello
00:38 SparkyProjects With those you are applying the same power, but if you increase frequency you get more power, think of a computer PSU (switchmode)
00:39 alrbgg how is your day
00:39 alrbgg ?
00:39 masterofmonks Interesting.
00:39 tlockley its okay, just brushing up on the "tax shit"
00:40 tlockley of TGG
00:40 SparkyProjects Sgt_Lemming, i'm guessing you're asking about driving it with a VFD  ?
00:40 SparkyProjects Yes you can, there should be a single phase to 3 phase VFD in your range, not sure what the supply current would be
00:40 masterofmonks alrbgg: It is Friday, I am off work, and listening to Iron Maiden, thing sare good.
00:40 Sgt_Lemming masterofmonks, tesla turbines are pretty craptacular in terms of torque
00:40 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: I am aware of that.
00:40 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, just thought you might be interested
00:41 masterofmonks Thus the question about the torque of the VFD
00:41 alrbgg where dose every one live
00:41 SparkyProjects In the building i referenced above we had 2.2 and  5.5 KW motors
00:41 Sgt_Lemming but at 6.5k rpm?
00:42 SparkyProjects Nope, it was for fans
00:42 Sgt_Lemming yeah
00:42 Sgt_Lemming not often you see one that rpm
00:42 SparkyProjects alrbgg i'm in the UK
00:42 masterofmonks alrbgg: I am in Florida, but there are others here from the U.K., and Austrailia to mention a couple.
00:43 tlockley alrbgg: I Live in Nantucket
00:43 masterofmonks tlockley: Ever read any S.M. Stirling?
00:43 tonsofpcs I'm in upstate NY
00:44 tlockley masterofmonks, no i havent
00:44 tlockley but looking at the wiki page
00:44 tonsofpcs tlockley: do they sell nantucket nectars everywhere on nantucket?
00:44 tlockley just about
00:44 tlockley it would be silly not to
00:44 * tonsofpcs has a snapple on the table, wishes it were a NN
00:44 alrbgg am looking at globe
00:44 tonsofpcs do you know tom and tom?
00:45 tlockley not personally, but have interacted professionally
00:45 masterofmonks If you like science fiction/alternate history/post apocalyptic novels you should try his nantucket series.
00:45 tlockley one of the toms is kinda a dope though
00:45 * tonsofpcs needs to find somewhere around here to get some
00:46 tlockley he gave the keynote at my brothers HS Graduation and just talked in circles for 30min
00:46 SparkyProjects alrbgg if you want to know how widespread TGG members are, look at this map http://g.co/maps/2xfru
00:47 masterofmonks http://wimp.com/superawesome/
00:47 tlockley tonsofpcs, what are your favorite flavors?
00:47 tonsofpcs oh, who won the mayor thing btw?
00:47 tonsofpcs tlockley: half and half
00:47 masterofmonks They coudl use a little help on vocals, but otherwise this little band is awesome.
00:47 tlockley the honorary mayor?
00:47 tonsofpcs also, best bottled lemonade
00:47 tonsofpcs yea
00:48 tlockley the first was a middleschool kid named max
00:48 tlockley afterthat i didnt pay attention
00:48 tonsofpcs you should 'run' :-p
00:48 tlockley lulz, i personally hope to not be around longenough to do that
00:49 tlockley I love nantucket, but i dont want to live here all my life
00:49 tonsofpcs well, when you hop off the island, bring mme a few cases :-p
00:49 tlockley also I will see if i can get some half and half to send to you
00:50 tonsofpcs I'll probaby get some tomorrow, I know a few places in ithaca have it stocked. (going to some huge book sale thing up there)
00:50 Sgt_Lemming lol, that poor bike under batman :-P
00:50 tlockley lemming, yah lol
00:50 masterofmonks Val Kilmer?
00:51 tlockley tons, very good. I actually ran across a real NN cooler at a head shop in burlington VT last time i was there to visit friends
00:51 tlockley dont see many of those anymore
00:51 tonsofpcs yea, vermont has NN everywhere.
00:52 tlockley though everyone here was bummed whe matt fee tea was droped
00:52 tonsofpcs there was one at the general store in jeffersonville last I was there
00:52 tlockley nice
00:53 tonsofpcs I got a bottle in Wawa when I drove through PA to Maryland for a wedding a month and a half ago :D
00:54 tonsofpcs hmmm, they say Xtra mart carries them....... and "Target food court" *makes note to go hunting at target*
00:54 tlockley matt fee tea?
00:55 tonsofpcs no, nantucket nectars
00:55 tonsofpcs there's an xtramart 2 blocks from work *makes note*
00:56 tlockley oh, well next time im at something natural i will get some matt fea tea. its a mint and something tea, really nice
00:57 tlockley honestly i was amazed the first time i found a NN outside of Mass
00:57 tonsofpcs and one just opened as the closest retailer to one of our transmitter sites
00:57 tonsofpcs oh, all the bagel shops back home stock nn
00:57 tonsofpcs (back home being northern NJ)
00:57 tlockley huh, how expensive are they over there?
00:58 tonsofpcs idk, I haven't lived there in 5 or 6  years...
00:58 tlockley how much do u usuially pay for a bottle of NN?
00:58 tonsofpcs probably a few bucks
00:58 tonsofpcs (2? 2.50?  just guessing here)
00:59 tlockley huh, its like 2.75 a bottle here
00:59 tonsofpcs I think I paid $3 at wawa just outside philly a month or so ago
00:59 tlockley yow
00:59 tonsofpcs I'll try finding one tomorrow :D
00:59 tlockley well i can say that the gas has to be cheaper than 4.49/gal
01:00 tonsofpcs yes
01:00 tlockley how is NY on gas?
01:01 tonsofpcs compared to nantuccket or compared to the rest of the country?
01:01 tlockley both?
01:01 tonsofpcs I paid 3.659 today
01:01 tlockley well thats not amazingly better
01:02 tonsofpcs gas back home is abt $3.40
01:02 tlockley lucky
01:02 alrbgg left #thegeekgroup
01:02 tonsofpcs you're closer than I :-p
01:03 tlockley well i just hope my car window gest fixed before it gets any colder
01:04 tonsofpcs what, do people not cover car windows with pieces of mattress packing plastic and duct tape on nantucket? :-p
01:04 tlockley no, no, not that. I kinda put my hand through my driverside window
01:06 BatSteve tlockley: did you have a good reason?
01:07 tlockley well partly i was angry, but mostly it is because the regulator in the window is all fucked and the window cought an edge and the force of my death grip shattered the window
01:07 tlockley apparently tempered car windows are weak at the edges
01:10 tonsofpcs you pulled on it?
01:10 tlockley yah
01:11 Mephistopheles joined #thegeekgroup
01:13 tlockley i was pulling up to keep the regulator from breaking
01:17 Cprossu so what's cookin' tgg|yNos?
01:17 tlockley hey Cprossu
01:19 Cprossu hey tlockley any new fun stories?
01:19 tlockley shattered a window with the shear strength of my hand
01:20 Cprossu only thing I've been doing is making some side cash and taking out the wrinkles in my HTPC...
01:21 tlockley yah, working on just scraping up cash ATM
01:21 tlockley filed for unemployment lastweek
01:21 * Cprossu misread that as working on just scraping up cash at the ATM
01:21 Cprossu sucks
01:21 tlockley indeed
01:21 tlockley and the Mass DUA sucks hardcore
01:22 tonsofpcs Cprossu: !
01:22 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what'd you end up doing for your htpc?
01:23 * tonsofpcs was looking at purchasing http://www.harborfreight.com/12-inch-sliding-compound-miter-saw-with-laser-guide-98194.html today, decided not to
01:25 masterofmonks http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lehsu2osZG1qzlfumo1_500.jpg
01:25 Cprossu tonsofpcs HDHomerun Prime, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131697 <- this mobo/cpu/apu/video/whatever, 4gb ddr3 @ $20, nano-itx power supply @ $20, seagate 2tb 5900rpm hdd @ $39, 1 6' HDMI cable @ $4, a $29 bluetooth pocket keyboard, and a $39 pos media center remote so far
01:26 Cprossu and a case I scored for $15 a while ago
01:26 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: For the price the miter saw is a good investment.
01:26 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: for what I need, http://www.harborfreight.com/miter-box-set-37022.html is enough...
01:27 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: ever used one before?
01:27 tonsofpcs also, I'm kinda interested in looking at circular saws with table mounts instead.
01:27 tgg|yNos hi all
01:27 Cprossu tonsofpcs getting the cablecard system working was both easier than I had expected and funnier at times
01:27 Cprossu hey yNos!
01:27 tlockley hey yNos
01:27 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: yes.  I've even  done miters with just a square and hand saw......
01:27 yNos Annie was asking about how many people are in the geek group earlier.
01:27 masterofmonks Just so long as you know what you are getting into.
01:27 yNos so i asked her if she wanted to talk to some of them..
01:27 Cprossu oh you might find this interesting, to get all my channels I needed a SDV tuner (Cisco STA1520)
01:28 yNos so, we got her into irc
01:28 Cprossu so I missed the party, lol.
01:29 yNos no biggie, she had more fun finding places on her globe
01:30 tonsofpcs Cprossu: SDV tuner?
01:30 masterofmonks yNos: how old is she?
01:32 Cprossu .w SDV
01:32 BotSteve "SDV may stand for: Service Disabled Veteran Owned Small Business" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SDV
01:32 Cprossu DAMN
01:32 tlockley lol
01:32 Cprossu that's not right!
01:32 Cprossu .w Switched Digital Video
01:32 BotSteve "Switched video, also called switched digital video or SDV (sometimes abbreviated as SWB for switched broadcast), is a telecommunications industry term for a network scheme for distributing digital video via a cable." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched_Digital_Video
01:33 yNos Annie is 9
01:33 yNos masterofmonks: ^
01:33 Cprossu yNos I think captain is starting to turn into Ze Frank.
01:33 tlockley starting 'em young
01:33 masterofmonks Ah, that explains the globe.
01:34 masterofmonks yNos: does she have her first soldering iron?
01:34 yNos not yet
01:34 yNos she has used mine though
01:35 yNos we made blinkenlighs
01:35 tonsofpcs Cprossu: oh, they're running switched distribution out there? silly.
01:36 tonsofpcs das blinkenlights!
01:36 astro73 i wish i used soldering when i was 9
01:36 tonsofpcs Cprossu: so how did yu integrrate the switched tuner with the hdhomerun?
01:36 masterofmonks Cool.
01:37 tlockley i probably should have learned blinkenlights before i started my first EE project
01:37 Cprossu tonsofpcs the hdhomerunprime has a USB port
01:38 Cprossu the SDV tuner is just there to tell the tuners what to tune to
01:39 tonsofpcs so this thing hooks up by USB?
01:42 Cprossu the SDV hooks up docsis in/out and USB to tell the tuners what to tune to
01:43 Cprossu cable card is one way communication only
01:43 Cprossu the SDV box sort of adds two way communication
01:45 tonsofpcs erm... so where does the SDV box get hooked u, physically?
01:47 yNos Cprossu: I never have heard of ze frank
01:47 yNos i am watching his ted talk
01:47 astro73 it's the cookie lady!
01:48 astro73 hi kelly
01:48 wannabe1987 hi astro73.
01:48 wannabe1987 its me, the cookie lady.  brought cookies to calvin and talked for an hour and a half :D
01:48 astro73 nice
01:48 astro73 i'm watching A Knight's Tale
01:48 astro73 I am amused
01:48 wannabe1987 lol
01:48 wannabe1987 its good
01:49 astro73 apparently, yNos's daughter made an appearance, but i missed it, too
01:49 yNos she might get online again..
01:49 yNos she is kinda shy
01:49 astro73 awww
01:49 astro73 i promise we don't bite
01:49 astro73 hard >.>
01:53 yNos uhh
01:53 yNos she is 9
01:53 yNos pervert
01:53 wannabe1987 ...
01:53 wannabe1987 astro73!!!!
01:53 astro73 i did NOT mean that!
01:53 wannabe1987 i know you didn't
01:54 astro73 you're a pervert for thinking of it
01:54 yNos i was picking on him
01:54 yNos astro73: are you in gr?
01:54 astro73 yup, still
01:54 astro73 y?
01:54 yNos have we met yet... irl?
01:54 astro73 don't think so
01:54 yNos ok
01:55 astro73 and i think we've had this convo
01:55 yNos i met a few new people a few days ago
01:55 yNos at tgg
01:55 Cprossu yNos: For Ze Frank, watch "The Show"
01:55 yNos just wondered
01:55 Cprossu it's funny as hell
01:55 Cprossu early internet gold, one of the first good video blogs.
01:56 yNos any in paticuar?
01:56 yNos wow
01:56 yNos butchered that one
01:56 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
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01:57 astro73 i should show up at the lab again
01:58 Cprossu hrmm let me find a funny one
02:01 wannabe1987 yes you should
02:02 astro73 they should do pot lucks or something
02:02 Cprossu yNos: http://www.zefrank.com/theshow/archives/2006/05/050906.html
02:02 Cprossu ^
02:02 astro73 just members get together and socialize
02:04 astro73 actually, that sounds like fun
02:04 astro73 although it should NOT be called the tesla temple pot luck
02:05 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Tmb on Ballistics Chronograph.....david.a.robison.42 on Ballistics Chronograph
02:06 wannabe1987 hi BotSteve
02:06 BotSteve Greetings wannabe1987
02:06 Cprossu ^ sounds like the title to a weird al song, astro73
02:06 astro73 the tesla temple pot luck? possibly.
02:06 Cprossu it could be a polka too
02:06 wannabe1987 .video
02:07 wannabe1987 not a stampede polka like they do at swing :P
02:07 astro73 i imagine it being in the same category as Big Dick Farts a Polka
02:08 astro73 wannabe1987: that's not a polka at all
02:08 wannabe1987 lol ik
02:08 astro73 that's a, well
02:08 astro73 stampede
02:08 astro73 i call it the danger dance for a reason
02:09 wannabe1987 lol
02:09 wannabe1987 i stay off the floor for it, i've seen people trampled :(
02:09 astro73 for real? and steve keeps playing it?
02:09 yNos I was wondering about halloween...
02:10 yNos is there going to be a TGG haloween party?
02:10 wannabe1987 ooooo
02:10 astro73 there should be
02:10 wannabe1987 tgg haunted house!
02:10 wannabe1987 with live teslas :P
02:11 yNos want
02:11 astro73 win
02:11 astro73 needs to happen.
02:12 astro73 but i think we need more than a few weeks to plan it
02:12 yNos I am not a party-designer type
02:12 Cprossu and a giant organ.
02:12 yNos i can get an organ.. if we can get someone to play it.
02:12 yNos a real-deal tone-wheel
02:13 astro73 no way
02:13 astro73 can we make it a player organ?
02:13 Cprossu can't dave play organ?
02:13 Sgt_Lemming astro73, with a bunch of micro controllers and plenty of servos, sure :-P
02:14 astro73 don't we have that?
02:14 wannabe1987 i'm sure dave could, or i know people who play organ :)
02:14 Sgt_Lemming probably not quite that many
02:14 astro73 doesn't the lab have everything?
02:14 wannabe1987 i was in music at calvin....i know people :D
02:14 wannabe1987 yes
02:14 Sgt_Lemming hah, chris wishes :-P
02:14 wannabe1987 lab has *everything*
02:14 Sgt_Lemming except all the stuff chris keeps asking for :-P
02:15 astro73 indeed
02:16 yNos the lab has lots
02:16 yNos n
02:16 yNos lots
02:16 yNos of
02:16 yNos stuff
02:16 * yNos is overwelmed sometimes
02:17 masterofmonks http://i.imgur.com/rtGzA.jpg
02:17 wannabe1987 yNos me too
02:17 masterofmonks Warning, the preceding image may induce motion sickness.
02:17 Cprossu did you attempt to get the thermal goop off of the pins yNos?
02:17 Cprossu just curious
02:18 yNos not yet
02:18 yNos i was pulled in sooo many different directions.
02:18 Cprossu yeah I bet
02:18 Cprossu life at the lab is hectic
02:18 Cprossu I wish we had that whole transporter thing worked out.
02:18 wannabe1987 https://join.me/489-681-882 O.o
02:19 astro73 Cprossu: i know!
02:19 astro73 i would abuse that thing.
02:19 Cprossu same here
02:19 wannabe1987 to go w/ the link: yo dawg, i heard you like to share your desktop so i put desktop sharing inside desktop sharing so you can share while you share
02:19 astro73 is he recursing?
02:20 Cprossu divide by zero lol
02:20 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
02:20 BotSteve **whispers** Quick, hide!  Before he sees us!
02:21 lwq1996 haha very funny botsteve ;)
02:21 lwq1996 hi people
02:21 wannabe1987 BotSteve!
02:21 BotSteve wannabe1987!
02:21 wannabe1987 lwq1996!
02:21 astro73 BotSteve!
02:21 BotSteve astro73!
02:21 lwq1996 hi
02:21 wannabe1987 you won?
02:21 astro73 BotSteve!
02:21 BotSteve astro73!
02:22 wannabe1987 brad!
02:22 wannabe1987 janet!
02:22 wannabe1987 dr scott!
02:22 wannabe1987 brad!
02:22 astro73 BotSteve: why are we yelling!
02:22 wannabe1987 THIS IS YELLING.
02:22 wannabe1987 lwq1996 did you win?!
02:22 * Cprossu envisions wannabe1987 trying to do TED's voice from the dilbert cartoon
02:22 wannabe1987 huh?
02:22 wannabe1987 noes
02:22 wannabe1987 its from rocky horror!
02:23 lwq1996 FUCK YES WE DID AND AGAINST AND UNDEFEDED TEAM
02:23 Cprossu oh. ok.
02:23 Cprossu lol
02:23 wannabe1987 CONGATS
02:23 wannabe1987 congrats*
02:23 astro73 WHY DOES NOBODY TREAT ME LIKE A HUMAN BEING?
02:23 SparkyProjects left #thegeekgroup
02:23 wannabe1987 um astro73, i do.....
02:23 yNos wannabe1987: that is slick
02:23 wannabe1987 i even hug you!
02:23 wannabe1987 what?
02:23 astro73 dilbert reference
02:23 yNos refresh is a bit slow
02:24 yNos the joinme
02:24 yNos thing
02:24 wannabe1987 ah
02:24 wannabe1987 yes.  its a friends
02:24 wannabe1987 shared with a friend who shared with him
02:24 wannabe1987 its like inception, yo
02:24 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx1XIm6q4r4  (sorry)
02:24 yNos on the forums, RadioActive..
02:25 yNos does he get in here often?
02:25 wannabe1987 no
02:25 wannabe1987 .seen radioactive
02:25 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen radioactive around.
02:25 wannabe1987 nope
02:26 astro73 wannabe1987: gotta be careful of those pipe bombs
02:26 Cprossu .seen tmb
02:26 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen tmb around.
02:26 yNos am watching his youtube thingamajoob
02:26 wannabe1987 ik
02:27 yNos you have to make them carefully
02:27 lwq1996 brb bathroom
02:27 yNos otherwise you get hurt
02:28 wannabe1987 HOLY SHIT a 48 minute vidoe?!
02:28 wannabe1987 eo*
02:28 wannabe1987 WHAT THE HELLLLLLLLLLLL
02:28 tlockley eh?
02:28 wannabe1987 yesterdays vid
02:28 tlockley o
02:28 tlockley ya
02:29 astro73 must have been eventful
02:29 astro73 i've got so much blog to catch up on
02:29 tlockley batman + assless chaps = lulz
02:29 astro73 i do NOT want to see that.
02:29 astro73 period.
02:29 Thermoelectric Hehe
02:29 tlockley tee hee
02:29 wannabe1987 same
02:29 injektion Damn the 8800GT in this mac is OLD
02:29 wannabe1987 but i prolly will anyway :S
02:30 tlockley 8600GT M
02:30 wannabe1987 boden scares me (beginning of the 5ths video...)
02:30 tlockley FTW!
02:30 astro73 chris is kinda scary
02:30 injektion I tried running TF2 in 1600xwhatever and it lagged so bad
02:30 astro73 (the frightening part is none of the staff appear in their own channel)
02:30 tonsofpcs injektion: does that make it worse than a new 8600 GT?
02:31 tonsofpcs :-p
02:31 wannabe1987 astro73, chris scares me and he dislikes me.  why do you think he'd let me be in a video!?
02:31 astro73 hm. fair enough.
02:31 astro73 maybe we should make our own?
02:31 astro73 except i don't really know how motors work
02:31 injektion I want to really upgrade the video card but I don't think there are any more upgrades for this mac pro
02:32 tlockley y not? its just pci-e
02:32 astro73 i mean, the lab drama gets old fast
02:32 astro73 and chris is dictator
02:32 tonsofpcs motors are simple
02:32 tonsofpcs ya
02:33 injektion tlockley, I don't want a fucking ATI card
02:33 wannabe1987 yes, lab drama gets old very fast
02:33 tlockley drama?
02:33 wannabe1987 drama
02:33 astro73 so much drama.
02:33 wannabe1987 theres enough drama in my life
02:33 injektion I don't want to end up like the ATI X1900XT that came with this damn thing
02:33 wannabe1987 tlockley boden dislikes me, so why go to the lab?
02:34 tlockley ah
02:34 astro73 and chris is dictator for life
02:34 wannabe1987 yes
02:34 astro73 or until the board votes him out
02:34 astro73 (haha)
02:34 tlockley injektion what happened
02:34 wannabe1987 "you do this while i sit here"
02:34 tlockley wannabe1987 that is truely frustrating
02:34 injektion tlockley, The X1900XT's heatsink had an issue with clogging with dust
02:34 tlockley oh, i c injektion
02:35 injektion Apple finally admitted they had an issue with it in 2010 and did a recall I think
02:35 injektion 4 years later
02:35 wannabe1987 yes, it is.  so i sit here on their irc (or sit there on irc) and relay stuff to *dave*
02:35 tlockley personally i can say that from a far chris is likeable enough, but he does seem a little crazy
02:35 yNos If you give him crap about not doing anyting, he will do stuff
02:36 wannabe1987 really
02:36 yNos yup
02:36 tlockley is there noting new from nvidia for the mac pro?
02:36 astro73 depends on who you are
02:36 wannabe1987 i can't give him crap.....i don't feel like i'm "in" enough
02:36 astro73 I couldn't give him crap either
02:36 yNos but you ave to do it with authority, if you show weakness e will pounce on it.
02:36 astro73 yeah
02:36 astro73 it's a men's club over there
02:37 wannabe1987 holy crap yes
02:37 yNos if you watch today's captain's blog, i give him a bunch of crap.. i normally do this.
02:37 astro73 that includes red
02:37 yNos mainly when he does stupid shit.
02:37 wannabe1987 and they're like "we want girl geeks" for the "fashion" one....BUT not all girl geeks are *into* fashion
02:37 wannabe1987 FUCK FASHION
02:37 astro73 oh good. we need someone to when kidwell isn't around
02:37 yNos astro73 isnt a boy?
02:37 astro73 i am
02:37 tlockley todays as in the latest posted?
02:37 yNos oh
02:37 * astro73 checks
02:37 wannabe1987 lol
02:37 astro73 yup
02:37 wannabe1987 ....
02:37 yNos no, the one from today.. likely posted in a few hrs
02:37 wannabe1987 ah
02:37 masterofmonks PhotonicInduction is the Bob Ross of electrical mayhem.
02:37 tlockley ok
02:37 wannabe1987 i'm watching the one from the 5th, the 27 minute one
02:38 wannabe1987 hi masterofmonks
02:38 masterofmonks Hi wannabe1987.
02:38 yNos he chopped out soo much fun from last night's motorcycle escapades
02:38 tlockley that looked silly
02:38 tlockley the chaps were a nice touch
02:38 yNos it was wonderfull
02:39 tlockley did batman get better?
02:39 yNos big man:little bike
02:39 tlockley tee hee
02:39 yNos he figured it out
02:39 tlockley when i started the bike was almost as big as me
02:39 yNos that thing.. the gas in it is from last year..
02:39 yNos it is my daughter's bike
02:39 yNos i need to run some sseafoam through it.
02:40 astro73 wait
02:40 astro73 run that by me again
02:40 yNos the funny thing is, she handles the clutch better than anyone that tried riding it last night.
02:40 astro73 your 9 year old daughter has a motor bike?
02:40 yNos yeah
02:40 astro73 ....
02:40 astro73 what.
02:40 yNos she has riddenn the big O trail with me a few times.
02:40 yNos **she has rode..
02:40 astro73 i've never even ridden a motorcycle
02:41 tlockley astro73: its michigan i am amazed she isnt a sharshooter to boot
02:41 astro73 how does she get her own
02:41 masterofmonks You should.
02:41 yNos http://www.dnr.state.mi.us/publications/pdfs/ForestsLandWater/ORV/Maps-Trail/big_o_motorcycle_trail.pdf
02:41 yNos it is a blast.
02:41 astro73 tlockley: true story. I don't belong in this state.
02:41 yNos i love it more than driving any car i have ever been in
02:41 masterofmonks I have got to get new tires on my bike.
02:42 tlockley astro73: i hate being in mass, i want to get my FID own a gun and have a motorbike
02:42 yNos tlockley: she has her own .22 and likes to go squirrel hunting with me.
02:42 tlockley called it
02:42 astro73 i'll trade you
02:42 astro73 i love mass
02:42 tlockley the people republic of taxachusetts
02:42 astro73 of course, i spent some time at WPI and fell in love with it >.>
02:42 wannabe1987 wait, tgg is big in argentina?  where are the argentinian guys in irc????
02:43 yNos not that i know of...
02:43 masterofmonks There has been at least once.
02:44 wannabe1987 interesting
02:45 yNos PULASKI DAYS IN GR!!!
02:45 wannabe1987 WHEN
02:45 wannabe1987 what is that?!
02:45 yNos NOW!
02:45 wannabe1987 i dont' even know.....
02:45 yNos wha?
02:45 yNos ohman
02:45 yNos 5th street hall is the place to be
02:45 wannabe1987 i'm busy all day tomorrow and sunday :S
02:45 yNos yousuck
02:45 wannabe1987 ik
02:45 wannabe1987 well no
02:45 wannabe1987 i'm not busy after 6 tomorrow night
02:45 yNos if you like to eat, you gotta hit up polaski days some times
02:45 yNos go there!
02:46 wannabe1987 i have no $$, its going to my car!!!!!
02:46 yNos http://grwest.wzzm13.com/news/news/62595-pulaski-days-are-underway
02:46 yNos :(
02:46 wannabe1987 ik
02:46 yNos you cant scrape $10
02:46 yNos ?
02:46 wannabe1987 maybe
02:46 wannabe1987 depends on how much i make tomorrrow
02:47 wannabe1987 it costs to get in?
02:47 yNos it costs to eat
02:47 yNos http://www.fifthstreethall.com/pulaski_days_weekend_info
02:48 wannabe1987 ah
02:48 * tlockley must remember seltser does not go ontop of server
02:48 astro73 yes...
02:48 yNos why not?
02:49 yNos if the lid is on tight..
02:49 astro73 why is this worthy of note?
02:49 wannabe1987 JAMIE what are you doing tomorrow night. .....you and girl.  and jacque
02:49 tlockley cause i almost knocked it over already
02:49 yNos oh
02:49 yNos glass
02:49 tlockley its a can
02:49 yNos oh
02:50 astro73 wannabe1987: i think jacque's costume party?
02:50 wannabe1987 o shit
02:50 tlockley also i need to finish my adapter cad to send to GR
02:50 wannabe1987 hmmmmm
02:50 wannabe1987 i guess i need a costume, eh?
02:50 astro73 *shrug*
02:50 wannabe1987 i have a wench outfit in the car somewhere
02:50 yNos dont
02:50 wannabe1987 i guess pulsaki can wait till sunday after the party
02:50 yNos leave
02:50 wannabe1987 what?
02:50 yNos yourself open like that
02:50 wannabe1987 lol
02:51 astro73 if we do costumes, i'll pull out the cosplay from jafax (babylon 5) or just toss on the ren fair garb
02:51 astro73 since those are the only costumes i have
02:51 tlockley yNos, mind if i pick your brain real quick?
02:51 wannabe1987 yeah....i don't have costumes
02:52 yNos sure
02:52 masterofmonks http://i.imgur.com/muBOt.jpg
02:52 tlockley so i have a dell powerconnect 2808 switch and a intel xserve
02:52 tlockley and i want to do port bonding
02:52 * lwq1996 tackle hugs kelly :p
02:52 yNos what kind of switch?
02:52 tlockley but when i set it up on both sides the mac always reads no partner
02:52 wannabe1987 o.O
02:52 * wannabe1987 was tackled
02:52 * wannabe1987 falls over
02:52 lwq1996 hi ynos
02:52 wannabe1987 leeeeeee
02:52 tlockley dell powerconnect 2808
02:53 wannabe1987 hlep me up!
02:53 tlockley 8port 1GbE
02:53 * lwq1996 help wannabe up
02:53 lwq1996 sorry
02:53 eadthem "If you get an 11/100 on a CS test, but you claim it should be counted as a 'C', they'll probably decide you deserve the upgrade."
02:53 lwq1996 didnt know i was that fat :(
02:53 wannabe1987 your not
02:53 eadthem xkcd ftw
02:53 wannabe1987 i'm sore
02:53 astro73 eadthem: i don't remember this one
02:53 tlockley eadthem lol
02:53 wannabe1987 eadthem agree
02:53 eadthem http://xkcd.com/953/
02:53 lwq1996 hey ynos have fun teaching batman how to ride a motocycle
02:54 wannabe1987 http://xkcd.com/961
02:54 yNos tlockley: is there a way you can setup LACP on the switch?
02:55 yNos LACP is the most common link agg proto, not all switches support it.
02:55 tlockley lemme see
02:56 tlockley 2808 does not have LACP
02:56 yNos also, different OSs handle it different.. HPUX decides what interface you are going out by looking to see if your MAC is odd or even
02:56 tlockley but heres where it gets weird
02:56 yNos does it support any link agg protos?
02:57 tlockley both the mac and the PC2808 support 802.3ad
02:57 tlockley more importantly the mac DEMANDS 802.3ad
02:58 yNos 802.3ad is LACP
02:58 tlockley well the best i can do on the PC so far is LAG membership
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02:58 yNos what are you trying to get out of it?
02:59 yNos increased thruput?
02:59 tlockley yah
02:59 wannabe1987 hi tesla4d
02:59 tlockley i have the xserve tied into a xserve raid
02:59 tlockley and i wan to try and push it at the throughput max of the array
02:59 yNos all on the same network?
02:59 tlockley yah
02:59 tlockley single subnet
02:59 tlockley simple 192.168 stuff
03:00 yNos what agg modes does the mac/pc support?
03:00 tlockley honestly i dont know because apple has it soooooo abstracted away
03:00 tlockley but if you any generic unix hacks i can gove those a try
03:01 yNos it is all driver-implementation specific
03:01 yNos open a term and type
03:01 yNos apropos 802.3ad
03:01 yNos or
03:01 yNos apropos LACP
03:01 yNos if your apropos is case sensitive..
03:02 tlockley nothin apropriate on both
03:02 yNos dmesg
03:02 yNos if you get output from that, put it in a pastebin
03:02 yNos http://pastebin.com/
03:04 tlockley http://pastebin.com/HVDV0vhk
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03:04 yNos is blank..
03:04 Cprossu indeed it is.
03:05 tlockley http://pastebin.com/9bcy2tgz
03:05 tlockley server derp
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03:06 Cprossu oh yNos scarily enough- http://speedtest.net/result/1521410705.png
03:06 Cprossu yay for docsis 2 rofl.
03:06 tlockley rat bastard
03:06 Cprossu don't think I'll be buying a new modem ever.
03:07 tlockley Cprossu you know the management creds for a cablemodem webmin?
03:07 masterofmonks http://i.imgur.com/zyUKO.jpg
03:07 Cprossu eat, chew gum, don't trip on fiber tlockley?
03:08 tlockley is there a way to get an advanced web admin for a cable modem?
03:08 yNos http://www.speedtest.net/result/1522908093.png
03:08 Cprossu yes.
03:08 yNos take that b1tchs :P
03:08 Cprossu your cable company won't like you though
03:08 yNos dsl...
03:08 tlockley lulz, reminds me of dsl here
03:08 yNos cable is not available
03:09 injektion http://www.speedtest.net/result/1522903593.png
03:09 yNos when i lived in town i had 16 mb dsl.
03:09 yNos but out here
03:09 yNos not so much
03:10 * wannabe1987 starts the 48 min vid
03:10 Cprossu two ways to do it I know of is take a unprovisioned modem and wait for it to be 'pooled', then go look at the 'cable side' ip (10.something.something.something usually), then use that unprovisioned modem to fuck around in the system with =P
03:10 Cprossu or jtag a provisioned modem and really fuck things up
03:10 tlockley cool
03:10 Photon939 yNos: wow, you have worse upload than i do
03:10 Photon939 congratz
03:10 Cprossu if they catch you it's jail time =P
03:11 Photon939 it's hard to do that these days
03:11 tlockley http://www.speedtest.net/result/1522910176.png
03:11 Cprossu if you are paid to do it by them then it's not =P
03:11 yNos Photon939: my closest neighbors are 2 footbalfields away
03:11 Photon939 DSL?
03:11 Cprossu though I still hate my friend who has 50/50 fios
03:12 tlockley yNos how close are yoy to the dslam
03:12 yNos yeah.. i live in the country..
03:12 tlockley envy
03:12 yNos too far
03:12 tlockley ah
03:12 yNos i had to fight to get dsl where i am now.
03:12 yNos noise margins are too high
03:12 Cprossu he was even able to make them install his node inside his house in a closet
03:12 Cprossu bastard.
03:13 tlockley heh, there is one DSLAM on all of nantucket i thing
03:13 tlockley *think
03:13 yNos wish i could get to the fibre running in front of my house...
03:13 tlockley i have fiber infront of my house and no one will let me use it
03:13 * Cprossu hands yNos a bolt cutter and a prism
03:13 Photon939 i need to find a fast speedtest server
03:13 yNos from the remote switches i have been in, most of the DSLAMS are 48 port injection types..
03:14 yNos so i bet they have more than one out there..
03:14 yNos :P
03:14 tlockley well either way comcast still does not cover the island so its either DSL or 900Mhz Motorola Canopy
03:15 Photon939 http://www.speedtest.net/result/1522914131.png
03:15 Photon939 this is the best server i found so far
03:15 wannabe1987 "i'm the president of the geek group, i collect anti-social people"
03:15 astro73 wannabe1987: huh?
03:16 wannabe1987 boden
03:16 wannabe1987 in the 48min vid
03:16 tlockley mostly true
03:16 yNos not anti-social
03:16 yNos but non-social
03:16 astro73 awkwardly social
03:16 wannabe1987 i'm just quoting him!!!!
03:16 wannabe1987 whatever
03:16 yNos in a face to face situation...
03:16 yNos yeah
03:16 yNos its largely true..
03:16 yNos lots of awkwardly social people there.
03:17 Photon939 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1181169/download.jpg
03:17 tlockley lulz
03:17 wannabe1987 yes, agreed yNos
03:18 Cprossu oh yNos I finally remembered the parts situation, or some of it.. I brought in a A8N SLI Deluxe with a X2 3800+(Socket 939) (which you found, yay!), I brought in the ECS A770 motherboard and Phenom 9750 (Socket AM2), and I bought a X2 4400 for $20 at comprenew which I left there (Socket AM2), and picked up the X2 5200 (Socket AM2) for free at vc tech source which I unbent the pins on which now sits in mooses computer with the MSI motherboard I found in
03:18 yNos ahh
03:19 Cprossu hope that clarifies it but I still want to know where that 4400 ran off too lol
03:19 yNos the a8n board didnt like the proc fan we had
03:19 yNos so i sent jeff down to hunt for another one
03:19 Cprossu yeah it might need something a bit nicer
03:19 Cprossu or different
03:19 yNos different..
03:19 astro73 i should do something about the caseless G3 i have
03:19 Cprossu the nice heatsink went into mooses rig
03:19 Cprossu astro73 there's a G3 case void of G3 parts down there too
03:20 Cprossu I think keegan wants to put it back to working condition
03:20 yNos havent seen keegan there lately
03:20 Cprossu yNos is keegan even still around, if that is how he spells his name
03:20 Cprossu lol
03:20 wannabe1987 yNos: watch out for reds boobs :P
03:20 yNos no worries, i watch out for them.
03:20 wannabe1987 ok
03:21 yNos i warned her what would happen..
03:21 wannabe1987 boobs are in the way sometimes
03:21 yNos even asked her to switch sides with Dylan..
03:21 wannabe1987 lol
03:21 wannabe1987 then thats her fault....
03:21 yNos but i dont think she heard me.
03:21 wannabe1987 obviously....:P
03:22 yNos the door wasnt side enough, and with how the old reserve tank was, we couldnt not push them out on that angle.
03:22 wannabe1987 ah
03:22 yNos s/side/wide/g
03:22 Cprossu though looking at the vids I think chris needs another mental health day sometime
03:22 Cprossu poor guy
03:22 wannabe1987 yeah?
03:23 wannabe1987 well, if he took sunday's off....he'd be better off....but hey its his life
03:23 astro73 Cprossu: no way. I have a mobo, cpu, and personality card
03:23 yNos am trying to get him out on a long bike ride this weekend.
03:23 yNos wtf is a personality card?
03:23 astro73 as well as some hardware that fits but i haven't confirmed compatibility
03:24 Cprossu apple thing yNos
03:24 yNos ahh
03:24 astro73 the A/V card
03:24 Cprossu you wouldn't want to understand it
03:24 astro73 RCA and S-video and stuff
03:24 Cprossu btw it blew chunks on the G3
03:24 astro73 in and out
03:24 yNos i would buy apple if i didnt have to pay shitloads
03:24 Cprossu the quadra vidin/out was better
03:24 Cprossu I'd buy apple if it wasn't a PC
03:24 Cprossu but now it's just a freaking pc.
03:24 Cprossu =P
03:24 astro73 *shrug* i got it because i did a favor for someone years back
03:25 yNos i like the idea of having a commercial unix on my desktop
03:25 tlockley oh?
03:25 Cprossu then kick on your 9000 next to you
03:25 Cprossu xD
03:25 yNos fersure
03:25 yNos try to get a new broswer for hpux 11.11
03:26 wannabe1987 lol he's not scared of boden, just his hands....
03:26 yNos and pay the power bill for having those beasts powered on with all the drives.
03:26 injektion ^
03:26 tlockley heh
03:26 Cprossu sooooo
03:26 yNos they only come on when i need to do some testing
03:26 yNos or want to fck around with them.
03:26 injektion If you want a commercial UNX on your desktop there is always Solaris for x86 :P
03:27 yNos that is blasphemy
03:27 yNos Solaris for x86 that is
03:27 Cprossu how many 235 watt panels and lead acid batteries would it take to run your 9k with all it's drives?
03:28 Cprossu actually for 'low power bill' I'd want to run irix.
03:28 yNos i had a few indys and octanes
03:28 yNos i <3 MIPS
03:28 injektion I have a dead octane
03:28 Cprossu I sold my indy 2
03:28 Cprossu for a shitload of money back in the day
03:29 injektion <3 IRIX too bad it's dead
03:29 Cprossu to an animator who... had some hardware issues happen to him
03:29 Cprossu I wanted to keep my indy so I quoted him a nuts price
03:29 Cprossu which he agreed to pay me
03:29 yNos damn
03:29 * astro73 feels like a 2-bit fraud sometimes
03:30 yNos why?
03:31 astro73 because i'm like all CSy, but i don't really know what you're talking about
03:31 injektion I loved my Octane too bad it did not survive the move
03:31 tlockley you get used to it astro73
03:32 astro73 oh, ok.
03:32 tlockley but keep wikipedia handy
03:32 Ponko joined #thegeekgroup
03:32 Ponko BATSTEVE
03:32 BatSteve PONKO
03:33 wannabe1987 BatSteve?
03:33 wannabe1987 hi
03:33 wannabe1987 Ponko!!!!
03:33 BatSteve wannabe1987!
03:33 * Ponko throws to the left slightly going 46 yarrds towards batsteve's route
03:33 * Ponko grunts loudly as he releases the ball
03:34 * BatSteve dashes
03:35 Cprossu I have a strange want to find a couple of my old phone line based arcnet cards and a couple computers to see if I can make it work again
03:35 Cprossu yNos suggestions?
03:35 * BatSteve gets under it
03:35 * BatSteve scoops it in!  Completion!
03:35 * Ponko pumps fist
03:35 Ponko man i miss football
03:36 Ponko and all those scholarships :/
03:36 * injektion waits for iOS 5 on his phone
03:36 wannabe1987 what happened?
03:36 yNos back, sorry..
03:37 yNos Cprossu: suggestions for what?
03:37 Cprossu read above that
03:37 yNos oh
03:37 yNos arcnet
03:38 Cprossu I haven't messed around with it since I was a kid
03:38 tlockley alright newsgroups up and running again
03:38 yNos me neither
03:39 Ponko well kelly uh i kinda fucked myself over and thought about doing something at home before i moved and that hasn't worked well
03:39 wannabe1987 :(
03:39 Ponko and the offers aren't there anymore :/
03:40 wannabe1987 awwwwww
03:40 Ponko well atm
03:40 wannabe1987 that sucks
03:42 Ponko indeed
03:42 Ponko i'd love to be playing
03:44 wannabe1987 i bet
03:44 injektion iOS 5 is so weird
03:46 BatSteve Ponko: that blows
03:46 tlockley iOS 5 is a ripoff update
03:46 BatSteve I'm sorry to hear that
03:46 Ponko i wanna throw a ball through a wall like i did that one time
03:47 Ponko true story
03:48 Ponko i threw a ball at a mate of mine once and the wall was soo thin and badly made it actually went through it....
03:48 Ponko if it was a BRICK wall though
03:50 astro73 that's.... special
03:50 wannabe1987 yNos!  why don't you have a helmet on!!!!!!!!!!
03:51 yNos because it isnt likely that that thing will jump out from under me.
03:52 yNos compared the them.. i know how that bike handles.
03:52 wannabe1987 lol
03:52 yNos and i didnt have ont there that i could fit..
03:52 wannabe1987 lol
03:52 Cprossu hahahahhahaaha "This plunger sucks so bad"
03:53 yNos they need the one from the cafe bathroom..
03:53 wannabe1987 batman needs new pants....
03:54 tlockley huh, raid of ATA beats single SATA for throughput
03:54 wannabe1987 i would dislike everyone watching me learn....
03:55 Ponko yeah i know astro it looked ok but i then realsied it was just a painted peice dry really thin lol
03:56 yNos wannabe1987 its not that bad. the first person has it the worst, everyone else learns from the first person.
03:56 wannabe1987 i know, but i don't like failing in front of people that don't like me.....
03:58 yNos who doesnt like oyu?
03:58 yNos **you
03:58 wannabe1987 boden, moose, red,
03:58 wannabe1987 prolly batman
03:58 wannabe1987 not sure of dave
03:58 wannabe1987 dilly is good tho
04:00 yNos i didnt know there were that many problems...
04:01 wannabe1987 i've been told by more than one irl tgg-er that boden reallllly dislikes me
04:01 wannabe1987 so i do my volunteering online
04:01 yNos oh
04:02 yNos hrm
04:02 yNos and on that happy note
04:02 yNos i need to get to bed.
04:02 * yNos waves
04:02 yNos g'night everyonw
04:02 wannabe1987 night
04:02 wannabe1987 sleep well
04:02 wannabe1987 thx for laughs of batman on a small bike :D
04:03 yNos and in chaps!
04:03 wannabe1987 assless chaps
04:04 wannabe1987 i has to sleep too.  LOOK AT THE TIME!  i used so much time watching the vids, car gets the ball joints fixed tomorrow :D
04:04 astro73 awesome.
04:05 BatSteve seeyou wannabe1987
04:05 wannabe1987 night
04:05 * Ponko still thinks that was funny though the whole wall thing
04:05 wannabe-zz damn dog outside is BARKING.  is that a noise ordinance thing if its past 12?
04:06 injektion No
04:06 Ponko lol
04:06 Ponko there's your answer
04:06 injektion I wouldn't classify a poor dog barking at 12am a noise ordinance violation
04:06 wannabe-zz ....
04:06 wannabe-zz ok
04:07 wannabe-zz its disruptive tho
04:07 injektion If some idiots on harleys were outside revving their engine now that would be a noise ordinance violation
04:08 astro73 would you be an ass for complaining about it? Are they an ass for doing it?
04:10 wannabe-zz my parents neighbors also have 3 dogs that don't.ever.shut.up.  like all hours of the day (sometimes night) they're barking.  they interupt my dads work....he works from home.  allll the neighbors in the neighborhood don't like their dogs (two chihuahua's and a german shepherd) that keep barking.  the other dogs only bark if there is something happening (fed ex goes by or somthing)
04:10 wannabe-zz but anyway . BED
04:10 wannabe-zz up at 6:45
04:10 wannabe-zz and out the door by 7:15 o.o
04:40 Ponko night
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04:40 speedrunnerG55 hi
04:44 BatSteve hi speed bye speed
04:44 BatSteve nothing personal
04:44 BatSteve I've just gotta get to bed
05:06 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Cprossu on AZ Chapter?
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07:19 Experimentonomen guten morgen peepz
07:28 Photon939 hi Experimentonomen
07:28 Photon939 hmm, i thought this was laserchat
07:28 Photon939 you're not the same experimentonomen are you?
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07:49 Experimentonomen actually i am
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10:31 Experimentonomen *yawn*
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11:19 masterofmonks Morning exor674
11:19 masterofmonks bah.
11:19 masterofmonks Experimentonomen:
11:21 * Experimentonomen removed a board from a malfunctioning oscilloscope that the crt connects to due to a cap that was leaning against the chassi and showed signs of arcing or atleast extreme rubbing, possibly causing the problem
11:27 masterofmonks Experimentonomen: You are a fan of tube amps yes?
11:33 Experimentonomen i dont actively build them but i like em
11:33 masterofmonks Thought you did at one point.
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12:06 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos:
12:06 BotSteve How to Paint Your Floor With EpoxyShield http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OYsOHIKNVE
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12:27 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: still debating the tubeamp design?
12:28 masterofmonks Ja
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12:28 * angy pokes Seroster in the eye
12:28 masterofmonks unclear on physical size.
12:29 tonsofpcs "huge" if you're going for 3kW still
12:29 masterofmonks 2kw
12:30 tonsofpcs 2kW total or per channel?
12:30 masterofmonks Total
12:30 tonsofpcs 2 channel?
12:30 masterofmonks Yes.
12:30 tonsofpcs so you're making two 1kW amps
12:31 masterofmonks The goal, and I don't know if this is really possible, is to make a hugely powerful portable stereo.
12:31 tonsofpcs with tubes? not really
12:31 tonsofpcs unless you think a leslie is portable because I'd expect it to weigh about the same
12:31 masterofmonks Portable meaning that *I* can move it reasonably well.
12:32 masterofmonks What is a "leslie"
12:32 tonsofpcs the spinny speaker thing that makes the doppler organ sound
12:34 masterofmonks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Leslie_Speaker.jpg
12:34 masterofmonks One of those?
12:36 tonsofpcs yes
12:36 tonsofpcs but they're usually not made out of plexi
12:36 masterofmonks Well I would not expect so.
12:37 tonsofpcs so I take it yu're designing it as a Class A amp (or possibly a series thereof)?
12:38 Seroster They got the rustoleum epoxycoat up... NOW?
12:39 tonsofpcs which room now?
12:39 Seroster The video
12:40 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: I know exactly crap about amps. This exercise is more of a learning experience than anything else.
12:43 tonsofpcs http://wireless.ee.washington.edu/indep_study/ben.pdf looks interestin
12:45 masterofmonks Also I would prefer a tube amp for the distortion curve.
12:45 masterofmonks Not fond of the crap where you play "music" and it's not so much music as just noise.
12:46 tonsofpcs why do you want a distortion curve?
12:47 masterofmonks I don't but at the top end of amplification with solid state amps you have a plateu as compared to a slope.
12:49 tonsofpcs erm... see the distortion graphs in that link
12:50 tonsofpcs they're discussing audio amps inn #defocus now actually
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12:55 masterofmonks What would you suggest given that the physical limitations are basically under 100lbs (including the SLA deep cycle battery to power the thing.) size is about three cubic feet or so.
12:57 tonsofpcs wait, this is going to be battery?
12:57 masterofmonks Yes?
12:57 tonsofpcs if you're running tubes on battery, you'll need A supply and B supply (two batteries).
12:57 tonsofpcs I'd suggest just going and buying a boombox from the 80s though :-p
12:58 masterofmonks Two problems with that.
12:58 masterofmonks The first is I already have a JVC Kaboom Box.
12:59 masterofmonks The second and I feel the most important, Is that just buying one, does not teach me what I want to know.
13:00 Experimentonomen wut? 2x2kW audio output tubeamp on batteries ?! O_o
13:00 masterofmonks 2x1KW
13:01 Experimentonomen a tubeamp is like 20% efficient at best so ur gotta have a battery pack the size of a house to even get a hour or two
13:01 masterofmonks See these are the things that I don't know.
13:01 Experimentonomen my tubeamp draws around 400W and only puts out aropund 35W before distortion is clearly visible
13:03 Experimentonomen for battery powered audio i'd opt for Class D as that stuff is like 95-98% efficient
13:04 tonsofpcs ^^
13:05 * masterofmonks tosses his EL34G
13:06 tonsofpcs like I said the other day, I have a 2kW FM transmitter (non-linear output, as opposed to the linear needed for audio) and it is the size of a 'wide door' fridge..
13:06 tonsofpcs oh, and it runs on mains.
13:06 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
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13:07 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos:
13:07 BotSteve High Voltage Lab - Grounding Rods Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcAUkLa2L-c
13:07 tonsofpcs grouonding rods!
13:07 masterofmonks Hmm that is a bit spammy.
13:09 masterofmonks Fitting I think, that this looks rather like a warehead...http://www.amazon.com/T9922-22-Audio-6000-Jackhammer-Subwoofer/dp/B001NJ4436/ref=sr_1_23?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1318079285&amp;sr=8-23
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13:10 tonsofpcs BatSteve-Away: you should teach botsteve to use youtu.be/TcAUkLa2L-c instead of the full url
13:13 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: what is your thought on having multiple ranges of volume?
13:13 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJrUbTzzEe8 <-- i assume u saw this already
13:15 masterofmonks That is yours Experimentonomen?
13:15 Experimentonomen yes
13:15 masterofmonks Love your toggle switch.
13:15 Experimentonomen toggle switch ?
13:16 masterofmonks The one you flip in the video.
13:16 masterofmonks To turn on the amp.
13:16 Experimentonomen thats the power switch :P
13:16 masterofmonks I am a freak about toggle switches.
13:17 masterofmonks Also what was that you were playing?
13:17 Experimentonomen its from a battle in a game
13:18 Experimentonomen a remix
13:19 tonsofpcs also, that was uploaded in june....
13:20 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: you mean a potentiometer?
13:20 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: Not so much.
13:21 masterofmonks A moment while I articulate.
13:21 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: build a PLL receiver into it and use nixies for frequency display ;)
13:22 masterofmonks I want to use a potentiometer for volume control but have multiple ranges of ampllification selectable.
13:23 masterofmonks amplification*
13:23 tonsofpcs you might be able to build multiple amps in series and have selectors for both what gets powered and where you take the signal off... not sure how efficient that would be in practice
13:24 masterofmonks The only thing I could come up with was a resistor array and a ten position switch.
13:25 tonsofpcs so you have like +--->-+--->-+--->-+--->-+
13:25 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MgvUIRs29uA <-- goto 6 minutes into the video for the tune i was playing
13:26 tonsofpcs + being a signal connection (the one on the left input) and > being an amplifier stage -- you run those +s to a switch and you have a power switch for eeach stage
13:26 masterofmonks Would that lead to degridation of the signal?
13:27 tonsofpcs alternatively, you can use a bunch of amps in parallel and a combiner (this would be quite lossy)
13:27 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: most things I use have just two amplification stages so idk
13:29 masterofmonks I was hoping to have basically one stage of amplification maybe two, and somehow have a limitation on the output.
13:29 tonsofpcs right, that's what a rheostat is for.
13:30 tonsofpcs alternatively, depending on the gain structure, you may be able to control the power driving the output amplifier instead
13:31 tonsofpcs anyway, off book shopping.  actually -- bug me on monday, I have two "boy's first" books above my desk that are old  enough that they have tube circuits
13:31 masterofmonks Heh.
13:44 MadManMarkAu RARAGAAG!
13:44 MadManMarkAu Fucking hell, YouTUBE
13:44 MadManMarkAu People need to die
13:44 MadManMarkAu Ona  Tesla Coil video (a decent one)
13:44 MadManMarkAu FIRST COMMENT
13:44 MadManMarkAu "When the coil its ready, how can u make free energy in our house, what else do you need?"
13:44 MadManMarkAu >_<
14:00 Experimentonomen i HATE them free energy believer assholes!!!
14:05 masterofmonks They are almost as bad as Seroster, but in a different way.
14:07 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Tysk on How to Paint Your Floor with Epoxy Shield.....Tysk on AZ Chapter?
14:07 masterofmonks The problem is that some of them are simply mis-informed and have the seeds of rationality in them, but others.. it's a religion to them, and if they suspect it's wrong they will defend it even harder.
14:10 astro73 that latter reaction is a thing
14:10 astro73 it's the basis of flame wars
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14:13 tlockley morning
14:13 masterofmonks Spatula.
14:13 tlockley Scrambled eggs
14:13 Experimentonomen beer opener
14:14 tlockley Sam Adams Boston Lagger
14:15 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uuCNAwXGaQ
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14:24 injektion Does anyone have an archive of Boden sound bytes>
14:28 Seroster masterofmonks,
14:28 masterofmonks Seroster.
14:28 Seroster You just likened me to a free enegry fucknit?
14:28 injektion iOS finally supports M4Rs as text alerts
14:29 masterofmonks No, I liken them to you, but not in that you believe in free energy, just that you are both disturbed.
14:29 masterofmonks all be it in different ways.
14:30 masterofmonks Mostly however, I was seeing if you were still alive.
14:38 dr_jkl ngh too early
14:40 injektion Are youtube's FLV files really that big for a 30 minute long video?
14:41 Cprossu hppd ,prmomg
14:41 Cprossu *good morning
14:41 Cprossu remind me to actually look at what I am typing
14:45 tlockley morning Cprossu
14:46 Cprossu I wonder if photonicinduction's blown anything up recently?
14:46 injektion I guess youtube's bandwidth does fail majorly http://goput.it/8c2.png
14:46 Cprossu yay!
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15:00 mashpriborintorg hiya
15:02 astro73 your package came
15:03 mashpriborintorg yeah
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15:04 mashpriborintorg small package in order to keep low shipping fee
15:04 injektion Hrm so this FLV audio exporter makes M4A files that crash Garageband
15:05 injektion I don't like using Audacity
15:07 injektion It's not as user friendly
15:07 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: dr_jkl on test post.....Tysk on How to Paint Your Floor with Epoxy Shield
15:08 tlockley its unstopable -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;v=Aja7gcgRMJU
15:09 mashpriborintorg the big copier shredding video is awesome
15:10 mashpriborintorg but a shame for tinkerers like us
15:10 mashpriborintorg Chris, thanks now I can do Epoxyshield, but I still don't know about part 4 of a forklift autopsy
15:10 mashpriborintorg :p
15:14 astro73 "In Terry Gilliam's voyage through time and space, a boy escapes from his gadget-obsessed parents to join a band of time-traveling dwarves."
15:14 Cprossu that's not stretching it for terry gilliam....fishy fishy FISH!
15:15 astro73 i just sw it in netflix and was "wtf?"
15:15 Cprossu astro73 watch brazil.
15:16 astro73 the romance?
15:17 Cprossu I don't think it counts as a romance
15:17 Cprossu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_%28film%29
15:17 astro73 sounded pretty romantic to me
15:17 Cprossu ^ astro73
15:17 mashpriborintorg one of the crazier film I've seen
15:17 astro73 oh, different movie
15:18 Cprossu astro73 I thought so rofl
15:18 astro73 i'm looking at the 1944 one
15:20 astro73 the '85 one isn't instant
15:20 mashpriborintorg the scene with all the hvac pipes in the wall is epic
15:21 Cprossu the computers in it are epic too
15:22 mashpriborintorg yeah pure steampunk
15:22 Cprossu might be the origin of it
15:22 Cprossu for all I know
15:23 astro73 probably helped
15:23 Cprossu astro73: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeY1dxlC7Sg&amp;NR=1
15:24 Seroster One dynamo
15:24 Seroster Two lights
15:24 Seroster A few feet of speaker cable
15:24 Seroster A bit of HST
15:24 Seroster And 33 zipties
15:25 astro73 explosions are good
15:25 Seroster masterofmonks, Why were you checking if I was still alive btw?
15:25 Seroster Sure are, astro73
15:32 Cprossu yeah I think this movie damn near invented steampunk.
15:33 injektion The only issue is that when I make M4R alert tones no matter how much gain I put on the files iOS still does not make them as loud as lets say the ones designated for ringtones
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15:56 injektion I think RMS has gone insane
15:58 Toastdude Hello
15:58 injektion http://gizmodo.com/5847906/strange-misguided-man-glad-steve-jobs-has-died
15:59 Hackbat oh stallman....
16:00 Hackbat wait until he's been dead atleast a month...
16:00 Hackbat :\
16:00 pegasus hasn't stallman been pretty much acknowledged insane for a good decade now?
16:01 Hackbat I think it was the whole Linus getting all the glory for linux thing
16:01 astro73 probably
16:01 astro73 it didn't help he really pushed the gnu/linux thing
16:02 Hackbat he won
16:02 Hackbat it's called gnu/linux thing
16:02 Hackbat er
16:02 Hackbat brain copy pasted...
16:02 astro73 nobody calls it gnu/linux
16:03 astro73 how often do you refer to gnu?
16:03 Hackbat it's like officially listed as gnu linux
16:03 Hackbat but people just call it linux
16:05 Hackbat ohohoh! I'm getting a kindle :3
16:06 astro73 "officially"?
16:06 Hackbat I've seen it on alot of sites
16:06 Hackbat like for distros
16:06 Hackbat I'm think it's not offical really
16:07 Hackbat Linus could give two shits
16:07 astro73 linus doesn't care so much about legal and politics; he just makes awesome
16:08 Hackbat He wanted to call it Freax :P
16:08 astro73 stallman wanted to bring back the hacker's idea of software
16:08 injektion Linux maybe awesome on servers but not on the desktop
16:08 Hackbat ubuntu is getting better
16:08 Hackbat funny thing is
16:09 injektion Not when the OSS freaks hate it when they can only get binary drivers :P
16:09 astro73 injektion: linus only writes the kernel
16:09 Hackbat the linux cmd line helped teach me how to use ms cmd
16:09 astro73 and git
16:09 Hackbat he wrote git O.o?
16:10 astro73 well, git was made for the kernel
16:10 astro73 idk if he actually wrote it
16:10 astro73 yes, he wrote it
16:10 Hackbat damn
16:10 injektion I hate it when people complain that their freedom is being taken away by closed source drivers
16:10 Hackbat everyone uses that
16:11 Hackbat I don't care if it's closed source
16:11 Hackbat just make it fucking work >:c
16:11 injektion ^
16:12 astro73 that's a sticky issue
16:12 astro73 it's not a human right, though
16:12 injektion If the driver is closed source and I need it to run a piece of hardware I am going to use the closed sourced driver
16:12 Hackbat lol
16:12 injektion I'm not going to wait years for the OSS community to reverse engineer something
16:13 injektion That won't work as well
16:13 astro73 injektion: and in that case, there's not a whole lot to improve on, or to reengineer the tool
16:13 Hackbat Linus' Father and grandfather were both journalists
16:13 astro73 but like photoshop?
16:13 Hackbat he Have the desire for knowledge
16:13 astro73 access to the source presents a wealth of possibilites for new tools
16:13 Hackbat not the right to
16:14 injektion If the OSS community got the Photoshop source code they would make a complete and utter mess out of it
16:15 Hackbat GUYS GUYS!
16:15 Xela personally, I see open source drivers for closed source hardware as kind of pointless (obviously only if decent propriertary ones exist)
16:15 Hackbat I MADE PHOTOSHOP PLAY DOOM
16:15 Xela OFFICER ON DECK
16:15 injektion The OSS community needs people that understand UI design
16:16 astro73 injektion: I will admit, the best software was a community plus a overseeing corporation, or group.
16:16 Hackbat Why Is the number one desire of hacking something, is to make it play doom
16:16 Xela The OSS community needs people that won't look at you like you're a retard when you say you prefer GUI's
16:16 injektion That too
16:16 astro73 Xela: they all work for ubuntu
16:17 Xela So true...though I personally don't like ubuntu *that* much
16:17 injektion I don't like any direction that the OSS GUI designers are going
16:17 astro73 injektion: i don't like the direction most GUI designers are going
16:18 Xela astro73: which one would that be?
16:18 injektion A good GUI design shouldn't need much explaining to use. The user should be able to walk up to the device and use it without a manual, etc.
16:18 astro73 Xela: which one?
16:18 Xela which direction
16:19 astro73 the tablet interface on desktops
16:19 injektion Blame MS and the Unity devs for that
16:19 astro73 don't forget lion
16:20 Xela injektion: That definition is only appropriate for some applications, though probably for a lot
16:20 Xela I think it'll be another 5 years before we can seriously start thinking about removing keyboard (be it touch or non-touch) and mouse from the equation
16:20 injektion astro73, Lion doesn't force that on anyone you still have a regular desktop
16:21 injektion Unlike Windows 8
16:21 injektion You have to choose to use launchpad
16:22 Xela windows never really had good interface design (not in a loong time at least)
16:22 Xela So I wouldn't expect too much from that
16:23 injektion I have some GUI design ideas which I need to write down
16:24 astro73 too bad there's no classes on GUI design
16:24 astro73 it seems to be an art?
16:24 astro73 and by art, i mean black magic
16:26 injektion Mac OS in general has got somethings right
16:26 Xela Too many people think that. They shouldn't allow artists to design interfaces. Good, innovative interface design doesn't come from funny gimmicks like docks, launchpads, etc but from understanding processes, ergonomics and how they can fit together. "intelligent" UI design is maybe one of the very few real innovations from apple.
16:27 injektion For example having the menu bar at the top
16:27 Xela But like a lot of complicated science, it's all black magic if you don't understand it
16:30 astro73 Xela: I need to remember that.
16:31 astro73 injektion: see, I really hate that. But probably because I love focus-on-hover
16:33 injektion The reason for the menu bar being at the top is so if a user loses their mouse cursor all they have to do is move the mouse until the cursor reaches the top of the screen then they can find it
16:34 astro73 what does that have to do with the menu bar?
16:36 injektion Nothing it's something that I tell computer illiterate people that use macs to do when they lose the mouse
16:36 injektion On Windows is much more of a pain in the ass to deal with people like that
16:37 astro73 ok, so it works for new people
16:37 injektion What's a taskbar?
16:37 injektion What's a system tray
16:37 astro73 it still doesn't work with focus-on-hover
16:43 injektion The two reasons why I use Apple hardware: design of the hardware and software and software I am locked into
16:45 astro73 the reason i don't use apple hardware: it's not thousands of dollars better
16:47 injektion It's not but I am a design freak and I haven't found a single OEM or DIY computer case that satisfies me
16:48 injektion I am also one of those people that would buy a used BMW and put a lot into money into it for the same cost I could buy an economical japanese car for
16:49 astro73 ah. it's worth it to you.
16:49 astro73 where as I don't care nearly as much how good my tools look
16:52 injektion I'd happy put 20k into a 20+ year old BMW Instead of buying a beige dull japanese driving appliance
16:52 injektion happily*
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16:59 injektion Because in 24 years what would still look good today: An 80s BMW or an 80s toyota, etc.
16:59 Katemonster hey injek
17:02 injektion hi
17:03 Cprossu it depends on the toyota
17:03 Cprossu injektion: a 1985 MR2 still looks cool today.
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17:05 BotSteve **whispers** Quick, hide!  Before he sees us!
17:05 lwq1996 hi people
17:06 injektion I don't like most 80s japanese cars except for one
17:06 lwq1996 ?
17:06 injektion This one http://www.performance-car-guide.co.uk/images/L-Mitsubishi-Starion-Turbo-Wide-Body-5.jpg
17:07 Cprossu http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/1986_Toyota_MR2_For_Sale_LF_1.jpg
17:07 injektion Still prefer the Starion (mainly because it isn't a toyota(
17:08 astro73 you just have a thing against toyota :p
17:08 injektion I have a thing against Honda too
17:09 Cprossu but the S2000 is like a british sports car that doesn't break down!
17:10 injektion Google S2000 failure
17:10 injektion err engine failure*
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17:11 Cprossu google MG and try to find anything that says reliable
17:11 injektion My dad had an MG B and his was reliable
17:11 Cprossu did it have lucas electrics?
17:11 injektion I don't know
17:12 injektion Reliability doesn't mean anything to be because anything that is reliable lacks character
17:12 Cprossu ahhhh there it is
17:12 Cprossu the character argument
17:12 Cprossu if you want character, get an alfa.
17:13 injektion Have one
17:13 injektion :P
17:13 astro73 my mom as a thing for VW Things. don't get it.
17:13 masterofmonks Seroster: well, you looked undead.
17:13 injektion I don't view cars as tools I view them as an extension of the human body designed for sheer driving pleasure
17:13 Cprossu any advice you could have for people on cars is now null and void lol
17:14 injektion I'd happily drive from where I live in GA to TGG in the Alfa
17:14 Cprossu lol I would to, I'd probably enjoy all the breakdowns too
17:14 Cprossu but seriously.
17:14 Cprossu A to B and fun is good too.
17:15 injektion Driving is more than going from A to B
17:15 Cprossu although I must say an alfa with a twin turbo pentastar 3.6 might even be fun and reliable
17:15 astro73 so by "character", we mean "character flaws"?
17:16 Cprossu ^ yes that's what he means... it's no fun unless it leaks oil from the doors.
17:16 astro73 oh man. my geo has so much character!
17:17 Cprossu I think you just killed a part of injektion
17:17 astro73 hehe
17:18 Cprossu well I am done messing with people today, later
17:18 injektion When I look for a car I look at a few things: handling, how stiff the suspension is, good engine sound, and how the steering feels
17:19 * Cprossu laughs watching injektion's car go diagnally over speedbumps at the supermarket before leaving
17:19 injektion I love going over speed bumps in the BMW because I love feeling it
17:20 Cprossu I can take speedbumps at 60 in my neon with blatant disregard for reality
17:20 injektion I don't like suspension that absorbs bumps because I like to feel them
17:20 injektion I like to be one with the machine
17:21 Cprossu I put a set of stiffening springs in and it gets quite old on 150 mile trips so I removed them
17:21 injektion With no isolation from what's going outside of my metal shell
17:21 Cprossu no isolation is a bad thing, I agree
17:21 Cprossu but your spine shouldn't be welded to the frame of your car.
17:21 astro73 you and your spiritual experiance have fun.
17:22 injektion The BMW has M5 springs now so it's even better
17:23 injektion I love being able to take corners very fast with little body roll as possible
17:23 Cprossu oh the fun you'd have at the alpine handling circuit in your car
17:25 injektion I'm a man and can I can handle a stiff clutch and a 300+ mile drive in a car with sports oriented suspension
17:28 injektion I can do it while my dad has issues riding 40 minutes in the car
17:28 astro73 how does being a man have to do with it?
17:30 injektion I should rephrase that
17:30 injektion You have to be a strong person to tolerate the ride in my car
17:32 astro73 ah.
17:33 Cprossu I wish my buddy haden't wrecked his supercharged M3, that was a fun car.
17:33 injektion I am going to turbo the BMW soon
17:34 injektion With the BMW kit because it's conservative enough so it doesn't blow the engine
17:34 Cprossu I didn't think there was a factory kit
17:35 masterofmonks http://i.imgur.com/aMEJJ.jpg
17:35 injektion BMW made a turbo 7 series in the 80s Cprossu
17:35 injektion Called the 745
17:35 injektion http://www.bmwauto.pl/745i.jpg
17:35 Cprossu so you're getting new old stock then?
17:36 Cprossu or used?
17:36 Cprossu (I meant I didn't think BMW produced a KIT, not didn't produce turbo cars)
17:37 injektion It's a kit that's been taken from the 745i
17:37 injektion Even comes with the required ECU chip
17:38 Cprossu injektion, 10psi?? pffft.
17:38 injektion I'm surprised that version of Motronic that BMW used back then could handle a turbo
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17:38 Ponko and i'm back
17:41 injektion if I wanted to turbo it I'd have to use the BMW kit nothing else
17:42 injektion or nothing else*
17:42 Cprossu wiki for the answers lol an additional charge air temperature sensor is used to monitor the temperature of the inducted air after it has passed through the turbocharger and intercooler, in order to accurately and dynamically calculate the overall air mass.
17:45 Ponko how about the Ku Klux Klan turbo injektion
17:45 Ponko well it is KKK
17:45 Ponko just saying
17:47 * Ponko KILLS CHAT
17:48 astro73 you killed it like hitler killed poland!
17:49 Ponko over killed
17:49 Ponko brb
17:50 Katemonster ponko
17:50 Katemonster why are you killing chat
17:50 Katemonster also, "triple k" is the worst name for a company ever and they should be ashamed of themselves over that
17:50 Ponko idk anymore kate lol
17:51 Ponko perhaps they didn't realise
17:51 astro73 seems unlikely?
17:51 Katemonster which is my point.  that level of obliviousness is unacceptable
17:51 Ponko they were oblivious to what there companys full title would be abbreviated to
17:52 astro73 which company, btw?
17:52 masterofmonks TIL: You can build a nuclear reactor in Minecraft.
17:52 Ponko i can't remember the full name lol
17:52 masterofmonks http://imgur.com/a/YZsyT
17:53 astro73 guns, shirts, turbines?
17:54 injektion meinkraft
17:55 Katemonster i kind of wonder if the gun company and the turbine company are connected.  they don't make guns though, they make aftermarket magazines
17:56 Ponko Kate that russian sniper on your fb i HONESTLY thought that was a pic of you
17:57 Katemonster LMAO
17:57 Ponko before i looked at the link lol
17:57 Ponko she's quite dishy
17:57 Katemonster rosa shanina != me
17:57 Ponko you as sexy as her ;)
17:57 Katemonster ...i'm taller and have darker hair.
17:58 Ponko how tall's tall
17:58 Katemonster 5' 9"
17:58 Ponko ooo me like :P
17:59 Ponko lol
17:59 Katemonster heh
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17:59 Ponko pity your sooo dang far away
18:00 * Ponko is CLEARLY not hitting on Kate
18:01 Katemonster luckily for you, you're out of rifle range :p
18:01 Ponko :P lol
18:10 Katemonster you certainly don't want to find out what is implied by *me* hitting on *you*.  when it's personal, i aim for the kidneys.  :)
18:10 dr_jkl aww
18:11 Katemonster lol
18:11 Katemonster hi Dr. Jekyll
18:12 * dr_jkl sips her coffee.
18:12 dr_jkl morning
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18:20 KB3NZQ yNos|away  what is the status on the stream PC i know you found a mother board for it i happen to have an asus a8n sli se  with a socket 939 but i think the bios is pouched on it as i can not get it to post
18:24 * Ponko is falling asleep
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18:34 * Katemonster stabs ponko with an epipen
18:34 Katemonster suddenly: wakefulness!
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18:48 lwq1996 my biggest fear has arived
18:48 lwq1996 meeting a security screw
18:49 lwq1996 god i hate not haveing security screw set
18:50 mashpriborintorg which kind of head ?
18:50 lwq1996 torx
18:50 lwq1996 i looked around the house...i dont have any that will fit
18:51 mashpriborintorg try allen wrenches or a flat blate that fits exactly in two opposite edges if the head
18:51 mashpriborintorg *of
18:51 lwq1996 its so small that i cant get anything but a flat head in...and it keeps going out of the hole
18:52 mashpriborintorg if it's not tightened too hard it would worlk
18:52 mashpriborintorg you are to press firmly the screwdriver
18:52 mashpriborintorg or go and get a set of tork bits, it is very usefull
18:52 lwq1996 its tightened like a son of a bitch
18:53 mashpriborintorg the worst I've seen are triangular heads and Nitendo's reverse-torx like design
18:53 lwq1996 lol
18:53 lwq1996 cant get anything on them ik
18:54 mashpriborintorg not better not damage the head
18:54 Electricguy noise synth gear summary video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61aNF-bpfKU
18:54 Electricguy :)
18:55 mashpriborintorg I have a 100-set special bits box, I can remove any screw I want
18:55 lwq1996 im just going to break the plastic i dont need the thing anyways
18:55 lwq1996 OH CAN I HAS A LINK
18:55 lwq1996 FUCK I JUST CUT MYSELF
18:56 mashpriborintorg oh noes
18:56 lwq1996 note to self never use a knife to break plastic
18:56 mashpriborintorg hehe the lastest captains blog give the ride from the lab to geek house 5
18:57 lwq1996 ik
18:57 mashpriborintorg cutproof gloves are really good thing to own
18:57 lwq1996 ik but they are down stairs
18:59 speedrunnerG55 hi
18:59 lwq1996 there is one thing
18:59 lwq1996 old stuff is tougher than new
18:59 mashpriborintorg I bought a 1973 HP calculator in a flea market
19:00 mashpriborintorg it just works like new :p
19:00 lwq1996 lol
19:00 mashpriborintorg it's on ebay now it'a a rare one
19:01 * mashpriborintorg following the ride to GH5 onto google earth
19:02 lwq1996 lol
19:02 lwq1996 screw this....
19:02 mashpriborintorg found it it's a large house
19:02 * lwq1996 gets out pry bar
19:03 mashpriborintorg a few minutes walk from the lab, great
19:04 mashpriborintorg what are you taking apoart
19:04 lwq1996 a phone
19:04 mashpriborintorg my latest autopsy was a hp Laserjet 5m
19:04 lwq1996 to get some of the use full parts
19:05 lwq1996 i thoght it was the welding head
19:05 mashpriborintorg but the most interesting this year was a 1970's laboratory scale, Sartorius brand
19:05 mashpriborintorg my own stuff autopsy i mean
19:05 lwq1996 oh
19:06 lwq1996 i read it wrong
19:06 mashpriborintorg I did not understand the inners of the scale, all strange mechanicals things
19:08 lwq1996 lol
19:08 mashpriborintorg but great hardware, all screws were metric allen
19:09 mashpriborintorg all parts made of cast metal
19:09 lwq1996 lol
19:09 lwq1996 this phone seems like its made of aluminum
19:09 mashpriborintorg mobile phone or fixed ?
19:10 lwq1996 mobile
19:10 lwq1996 old one
19:10 mashpriborintorg maybe magnesium alloy
19:10 lwq1996 from like 2000
19:10 mashpriborintorg worth something as scrap metal
19:11 lwq1996 hmmm
19:12 mashpriborintorg snip it with cutting pliers if it breaks it's magnesium
19:12 mashpriborintorg if it cuts sofly it's aluminium
19:13 lwq1996 acutally its plastic...it looked gray on the inside so thats why i thought it was metal.but after getting into it enough....its plastic
19:14 mashpriborintorg just some metallic paint for shielding purpose
19:14 lwq1996 ah
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19:15 lwq1996 hi kelly
19:16 astro73 good afternoon, sleepy head
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19:20 lwq1996 i found a motor and i think a pizeo speaker
19:21 mashpriborintorg yeah always the same stuff
19:21 mashpriborintorg Dear Santa.... http://www.mtixtl.com/skj-50czcrystalgrowersystemwithvacuumchamber.aspx
19:22 astro73 "in stock"
19:22 astro73 for that price, i'm surprised they don't hand make it
19:23 mashpriborintorg maybe it's a best seller
19:23 mashpriborintorg "affordable price"
19:24 mashpriborintorg it means over models are much more expensive
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19:24 angy Boo
19:24 astro73 that's the introductory model?
19:24 mashpriborintorg you can even other more than one
19:24 astro73 wannabe-zz: you still sleeping?
19:25 * mashpriborintorg enters quantity 100
19:26 mashpriborintorg there is a 130.000 dollars one
19:30 Hackbat I love the sound of the CNC router drilling th plastic
19:31 mashpriborintorg it seems to be very loud, were they are in the parking lot in the blog, the sound is still audible
19:31 Hackbat I mean if you record that, add some filters
19:31 Hackbat perfect videogame noises
19:32 astro73 i love setting up new dev envs
19:32 * astro73 ties a noose
19:33 astro73 Hackbat: you can hear it in the lounge, too
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19:48 astro73 so, i need to install (on windows): Python, PyGTK (all in one), py2exe, NSIS, gedit, tortoisegit, msysgit
19:49 astro73 so far
19:50 angy that much git porcelains?
19:50 astro73 just tortoisegit
19:52 astro73 msysgit is the windows git port
19:52 astro73 the rest of it is unrelated
19:53 angy :)
19:53 astro73 this is just so i can get a windows installer of my program
20:00 Katemonster hey angy
20:00 angy Kate!
20:00 angy Lovely Kate
20:00 Katemonster :)
20:04 lwq1996 should i save the lcd screen from a old phone
20:06 astro73 depends?
20:06 lwq1996 how does it depend
20:07 astro73 on the screen and how reusable it is
20:07 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Slurpy on New Random Junk Thread
20:07 lwq1996 hmmm
20:08 lwq1996 its got contacts on it...so it may be reusable
20:28 * mashpriborintorg goes to bed bye
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20:44 Katemonster nananananananananananananananana batmaaaaaaan
20:53 Cprossu hey tggbatman! any vehicular disasters today?
20:55 lwq1996 hey its batman
21:00 lwq1996 why you no talk?
21:05 Sythen evening all
21:05 Cprossu still a good afternoon for me Sythen, how goes it?
21:05 Sythen not too bad, been playing video games all day, tis been good
21:06 KB3NZQ cprossu  what is the status on the stream PC i know ynos found a mother board for it i happen to have an asus a8n sli se  with a socket 939 but i think the bios is pouched on it as i can not get it to post
21:07 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: MattG on AZ Chapter?
21:07 Cprossu status is electrically conductive thermal paste ran beneath the pins of the original motherboard/cpu @ KB3NZQ and ynos keeps getting projects ahead of it
21:08 Cprossu so it's slowly being dealt with
21:08 KB3NZQ ok
21:08 Cprossu as soon as we pop another mobo/cpu in it we need to load the OS and I need to get everything else back and running remotely
21:09 Sythen tis rather easy to remove thermal sticky from a socket
21:09 Cprossu I've done it before
21:09 Cprossu my problem was I didn't add thermal paste back while testing it, remembered to do so after I was gone and too much was applied
21:09 Sythen same, a few times
21:10 KB3NZQ is the board that is in it a socket 939 ?
21:10 Cprossu no
21:10 KB3NZQ am2 ?
21:10 Cprossu it's a AM2, ECS A770-M and a phenom 9750 currently in there
21:11 Sythen guh, ecs
21:11 Cprossu but I left a asus 939 board and a 939 chip (x2 3800+ there)
21:11 Cprossu hey it's one of a few things I brought from home
21:11 Cprossu and I didn't realize....
21:11 Cprossu that MI is a black hople for computer stuff
21:11 Cprossu their computer shops still sell P4's as decent computers =P
21:11 KB3NZQ ok i have an old hp media center pc it is socket am2 but it could not hold a phenom
21:12 Cprossu that's fine, send it
21:12 Cprossu does it have a x1 slot?
21:12 KB3NZQ the hp one needs a cpu ram and hd
21:12 Cprossu because I've got a X2 4400+ there
21:12 Cprossu and they do have ddr2
21:13 KB3NZQ let me check  i know it is a slim line only case
21:13 Cprossu also is it a gf6100/7000 board?
21:13 Seroster Fucking electric tape
21:13 Cprossu don't worry about that, it's getting a different case KB3NZQ
21:13 Seroster Stripping degauss coils
21:14 KB3NZQ sign on to echo link and i will link you in a minute when i go down to the shack (in my house )
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21:14 Cprossu I need to find my eyeglasses, brb
21:15 injektion|ipad Today my BF got rid of his Samsung droid for an iPhone
21:16 Sythen bad trade if you ask me
21:16 injektion|ipad I'd use android if apps were not written in java
21:17 injektion|ipad :)
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21:17 injektion|ipad Then again that could be a nightmare
21:18 * angy got an android phone :(
21:18 injektion|ipad I don't care for apples policies but android lacks visual polish and simplicity
21:20 Sythen meh, id rather have a device that has a full qwerty keyboard
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21:20 injektion|ipad I don't mind touch screen keyboards because you get used to using it
21:21 Sythen i dont like em
21:22 angy I don't care as long as I can type with it in at least two languages
21:22 injektion|ipad I can do that here too
21:22 angy I know, I already have an ipad
21:23 injektion|ipad Ü
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21:27 Cprossu KB3NZQ you still there?
21:27 Cprossu * KB3NZQ_Biostar
21:27 KB3NZQ_Biostar yes
21:28 Cprossu but yeah I didn't bring in the ecs expecting to use it as THE stream computer
21:28 KB3NZQ_Biostar o ok
21:28 Cprossu I went out looking for some new stuff and found none on location
21:28 Cprossu it was scary
21:29 Cprossu and I never got to make the backup stream comp either
21:29 KB3NZQ_Biostar i'm going pack to my laptop brb
21:29 Cprossu I did make backup weathercam and a backup jupiter computer though heh
21:29 KB3NZQ_Biostar good
21:31 KB3NZQ ok back
21:31 Cprossu current req's though so you know are pciex1 slot in non-dell motherboard with dual core >2ghz processor(not a celeron) with at least 1gb of ram that will run XP without bitching up a storm.
21:32 Cprossu 'blackmagic intensity pro' is the capture card that we are using, we only have one of those.
21:32 KB3NZQ ok i do not have any thing that meats that here
21:33 Cprossu I know that x2 3800+ will work as I brought that there for another possible project and it was my stream testbed computer
21:33 Cprossu (the one with the a8n-sli deluxe motherboard)
21:33 Cprossu (that ynos held up in that one video)
21:34 KB3NZQ i have the a8n sli se but it will not post (was from a friend of a friend who was in to OC'ing way too much)
21:34 Cprossu ooooh that reminds me KB3NZQ there is a c2d 2.2 also that's down there if you have another socket 775 board
21:35 KB3NZQ nope i don't have one
21:35 Cprossu but yeah it's a no-mans-land for high end parts down there, I really had to lower my standards
21:36 Cprossu even the best buy had inflated prices compared to here
21:36 KB3NZQ i have a dell that has a pentium D in it and it has a 1x slot but no HD or CD
21:36 KB3NZQ i think i put 2gb of ram it it
21:36 Cprossu yeah dell bios + the intensity pro = doesn't work properly
21:36 KB3NZQ o ok
21:36 Cprossu just out of curiosity is your dell one with a foxconn motherboard?
21:37 KB3NZQ IDK
21:37 Cprossu http://www.boardtekuk.webspace.virginmedia.com/Board-tek-uk/adpics/B6635.jpg
21:37 KB3NZQ i will send you the service tag on it just give me a min to run back down to the shack
21:37 Cprossu KB3NZQ it would look like this
21:38 KB3NZQ IDK i think it is different
21:38 KB3NZQ brb
21:40 KB3NZQ_Biostar SVC tag is D0(ZERO)WBC1(ONE)
21:41 KB3NZQ_Biostar sorry typo
21:41 KB3NZQ_Biostar SVC tag is D0(ZERO)WBWC1(ONE)
21:42 * KB3NZQ_Biostar slaps Cprossu and starts getting carried away
21:42 * Cprossu is looking
21:44 Cprossu right series wrong mobo I think
21:45 Cprossu http://www.esaitech.com/objects/catalog/product/image/img55897.jpg
21:45 Cprossu yikes. btx and way off
21:47 KB3NZQ_Biostar bingo
21:50 Cprossu later all!
21:50 Cprossu bbl
21:52 KB3NZQ_Biostar ok
22:05 tggbatman OH Hi guys sorry I opened this and then imediately got pulled away
22:13 Sythen ello Batman, how are you this evening?
22:14 tggbatman i be exhausted and i still have to be for 6 hours
22:15 Sythen moving heavy gear?
22:16 tggbatman no i started early this morning and when u do a lot of small things 9am till 6pm its tiring but also knowing u have to go to midnight it just makes the day more exhausting
22:16 Sythen im know that feeling all too well
22:17 Cprossu tggbatman it happens, good luck.
22:18 Cprossu any more vehicular antics today?
22:23 tggbatman no haven't been any since Dante's starter
22:25 Sythen whelp, my day off was used well. hehehe
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22:30 Sythen heh, me quitting smoking, after 5 weeks, thats 4gb of ram
22:44 LeeWQueen1996 hi peoplle
22:44 LeeWQueen1996 is ynos around?
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23:04 tonsofpcs ?
23:20 masterofmonks How was the book store tonsofpcs
23:20 masterofmonks Ok, someone explain this to me....
23:21 masterofmonks Download MCNostalgia 1.0.4 for Windows with Adfly (spyware warning).
23:21 masterofmonks Why would you click that link when there is a version without Adfly?
23:22 Hackbat :D
23:22 Hackbat I has all of wikipedia on my computer RIGHT NOW
23:23 Hackbat except for the pictures
23:23 masterofmonks Hackbat: *all* or just the most recent dump?
23:23 Sythen im currently looking at pc chassis
23:23 Hackbat most recent ;3;
23:23 masterofmonks What is that emoticon supposed to be?
23:23 Hackbat it's august 3rd though
23:23 Hackbat pouty face
23:24 Hackbat crying
23:24 masterofmonks Don't see it.
23:24 Hackbat puff out your lips
23:24 masterofmonks Still don't.
23:24 Hackbat 3 lips
23:24 Hackbat puff out
23:25 Hackbat o3o
23:25 Sythen he means, duck face
23:25 Hackbat pouty face
23:25 Sythen http://antiduckface.com/
23:25 masterofmonks I know what he means, I don't see it in the emoticon.
23:26 Hackbat D:< it's there damnit
23:26 Sythen it isnt
23:26 masterofmonks This is why I hate emoticons.
23:26 Hackbat I bet you''re one of the fuckers that can see the magic pictures D:<
23:26 masterofmonks Except this one :-0*
23:27 masterofmonks Man with a spider on his lip.
23:27 Hackbat ;w;
23:27 Hackbat it's a crying lion :D
23:29 masterofmonks Now where would one get 20lb bags of vermiculite...
23:29 Hackbat lol
23:29 Hackbat my cat's tail is flat
23:30 Hackbat it's sitting on my legs while I have my laptop on my lap
23:32 masterofmonks There we go.
23:33 masterofmonks http://www.labelmaster.com/store/scripts/view-product.cfm?product=KTV6400-A2
23:33 masterofmonks Maybe four of those will completely backfill every wall in my house.
23:38 BatSteve word
23:38 masterofmonks Void.
23:39 SparkyProjects I used to install telephone exchanges, Vermiculite was used to fill the voids through the ceilings for the cable runs, the vermiculite was mixed with water.
23:39 SparkyProjects And as it says in the description it will absorb water, is that a good thing to have in house cavities ?
23:40 masterofmonks It is often used to backfill walls.
23:41 masterofmonks Here in Florida it is better to have something like that in your wall that instead of having your drywall absorb the humidity.
23:41 wannabe1987 whats in your walls?
23:42 masterofmonks Interior nothing.
23:42 masterofmonks Exterior standard medium fiberglass mat.
23:42 wannabe1987 so.exhausted
23:42 wannabe1987 i'm skipping out on a party tonight cuz i can't keep my eyes focused
23:43 masterofmonks Then go to sleep.
23:43 wannabe1987 gotta catch up on the day first
23:43 wannabe1987 then i'll either nap or sleep
23:44 wannabe1987 but i have stuff to do too
23:44 wannabe1987 GAH
23:44 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: I had to use lots of vermiculite as a hazmat chemist for other purposes.
23:45 wannabe1987 and i can't do it tomorrow cuz its *for* tomorrow
23:45 dr_jkl guys, there may be some intermittent downtime of the site over the next few hours
23:47 SparkyProjects Tanks for the warning :)
23:49 dr_jkl well
23:49 dr_jkl heh
23:49 BatSteve tonsofpcs: Why use youtu.be ?
23:50 BatSteve Presto reduced the update size by 81% (from 278 M to 54 M).
23:50 BatSteve (unrelated, but awesome)
23:50 BatSteve (yay delta compression)
23:50 tonsofpcs BatSteve: shorter
23:50 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: one of these days you need to get your picture taken with Photonic Induction.
23:51 BatSteve So?
23:51 SparkyProjects He's too far away from me
23:51 BatSteve (not being rude, I honestly don't see the point of saving 25 characters in a url)
23:51 BatSteve if it overflowed people's screens or something that'd be different
23:51 masterofmonks Also when there have been a few updates to the forum the notices get a bit spammy.
23:52 tonsofpcs BatSteve: screen width, word wrap, just 1 character too many makes it another line......
23:53 BatSteve Okay.  Yeah, that's valid.
23:53 BatSteve Do you have a GitHub account, tons?
23:53 tonsofpcs I think I checked once and didn't........ *checks again*
23:54 wannabe1987 BatSteve: what langauage are calculaters programmed in?
23:54 wannabe1987 TI-83 etc
23:54 Hackbat wannabe1987, hex
23:54 SparkyProjects Fine if Botsteve uses youtu.be, but doesn't stop others from including the ....&feature=relmfu on the end instead of removing it
23:54 tonsofpcs for that line, TIBasic and/or Z80 Assembly
23:54 BatSteve If you don't, that's fine, I can write up the feature request myself.  But if you do, it would save me a few seconds of my life, which I would repay with...dunno what.
23:54 tonsofpcs relmfu?
23:54 BatSteve relmfu?
23:55 wannabe1987 then why would my sister (math edu, secondary) have to LEARN python?  she dislikes it, but its a req
23:55 masterofmonks Hackbat: A curse?
23:55 tonsofpcs I do not.
23:55 SparkyProjects You get that when you click on the related vids at the side
23:56 tonsofpcs BatSteve: ^
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23:56 masterofmonks wannabe1987: more than likely so that she has some experience with programing.
23:56 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: oftenn times a school will choose one programming language and teachh it as their core language.
23:56 tonsofpcs TIBasic is _very_ limited
23:57 wannabe1987 is python that easy that *everyone* should know it?
23:57 Hackbat masterofmonks, 4e6f2049206d65616e2048657861646563696d616c
23:57 tonsofpcs although I would expect matlab/maxima/macsyma/haskell to be taught
23:57 masterofmonks Hackbat: Yes, a curse.
23:57 Hackbat eiter Hex or Asm
23:57 BatSteve Ok tons.
23:57 BatSteve no problem.
23:57 tonsofpcs from what I understand, python is pretty easy but still follows a simple structure
23:58 tonsofpcs BatSteve: can you do a s/ed/swap/ ? I can write that real quick...
23:58 * wannabe1987 got her ball joints changed out today
23:58 BatSteve Sure.
23:58 BatSteve Lay it on me.
23:58 tonsofpcs s,http://www.youtube.com/watch/,http://youtu.be/,
23:59 masterofmonks wannabe1987: So the cookies worked out for you.
23:59 wannabe1987 i had the money for the joints before hand....
23:59 tonsofpcs err, hold
23:59 BatSteve that's super easy.
23:59 tonsofpcs s,http://www.youtube.com/watch\?,http://youtu.be/,
23:59 tonsofpcs ^^

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