Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-10-10

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Time Nick Message
00:00 wannabe1987 and snogging
00:00 Katemonster snogging is a good word.
00:01 Ponko well i haven't done that for a while
00:01 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe1987
00:01 wannabe1987 :(
00:01 * Ponko is getting REALLY angry
00:01 wannabe1987 yeah, what happened there, if i may ask
00:01 * wannabe1987 hugs lee
00:01 Katemonster calm down ponko.  hot heads do stupid things.
00:01 Ponko well i'm fine i'm in a room where i have to be quiet
00:01 * lwq1996 bro hugs ponko
00:01 Ponko cheers mate
00:02 Ponko wannabe1987 what happened with what?
00:02 lwq1996 its going to be ok ponko we will just blame it on toas
00:02 lwq1996 toast
00:02 CaptainNiobe i'm sure toast will appreciate that... lol...
00:03 CaptainNiobe more likely sero's fault :P
00:03 wannabe1987 your gf or whatever
00:03 wannabe1987 its all serosters fault.  duh
00:03 Ponko oh that yeah she cheated on me and well yeah end of
00:03 * lwq1996 does spit take
00:03 lwq1996 YOUR GF CHEATED ON YOU
00:03 CaptainNiobe she cheated on you ponko?
00:03 Ponko yep
00:03 wannabe1987 damn
00:03 wannabe1987 :(
00:03 Toastdude Thanks Lee... D:
00:04 Ponko i knew about it
00:04 CaptainNiobe scuse me...
00:04 CaptainNiobe FUCK THAT!
00:04 Ponko but had no proof
00:04 Ponko till then
00:04 * Toastdude bro hugs Ponko
00:04 Ponko brb
00:04 Ponko time for my Green Bay Shirt
00:04 lwq1996 we will blame it on toast...TOAST WHY DID YOU HAVE PONKOS GF CHEAT ON HIM
00:04 lwq1996 ITS ALL YOUR FAULT
00:05 Toastdude No, It's all your fault... You're old, and therefore, have more responsibility
00:05 Toastdude So you are responsible
00:05 lwq1996 OLD....
00:05 lwq1996 im one year older than you
00:05 Toastdude older *
00:05 Katemonster actually it was my fault.
00:05 wannabe1987 o.O
00:05 Katemonster SURPRISE
00:05 lwq1996 no women can resist katemonster
00:05 Toastdude See, Lee? It IS your fault
00:06 Ponko yeah she was doing it for nearly 11 months so yeah
00:06 wannabe1987 dang
00:06 Toastdude Wow... I'm sorry Ponko :(
00:06 Katemonster i don't think ponko appreciates us marginalizing and making fun of his relationship woes.
00:06 Katemonster :( sorry ponk
00:07 Toastdude .cookie Ponko
00:07 BotSteve Here you go, Ponko, I baked you an oatmeal raisin cookie!
00:07 speed-mobile Hi CaptainNiobe
00:07 Ponko i knew but no proof and she kept me dragging along
00:07 Ponko ANYWAY
00:07 Toastdude :(
00:07 CaptainNiobe hey, speed-mobile... long time no see... whatup?
00:08 Ponko i'm pissed because this girl who has been telling me she wants to hook up over and over has today hooked up with some bloke who i know will only dump her in about 2 months or so
00:08 speed-mobile Im doing good
00:08 yNos|away wannabe1987: Not that i know of.. i have been meaning to ask
00:08 Ponko fucking piss take
00:08 wannabe1987 cuz i'd love to work in there when its set up
00:08 lwq1996 hi ynos
00:08 CaptainNiobe :)
00:08 speed-mobile Ive been playing minecraft a lot. Tjats why sorry
00:08 Ponko anyway... enough of my problems
00:08 yNos|away hiya all
00:08 MoxieMike joined #thegeekgroup
00:09 lwq1996 you still away?
00:09 speed-mobile Thats why
00:09 lwq1996 nvm
00:09 yNos i am back and forth.. cleaning my atomizers - got 3 new ones yesterday, 2 are dead :(
00:09 lwq1996 hey ynos i found two little speakers but no piezo's
00:09 yNos hrm..
00:10 wannabe1987 hi MoxieMike
00:10 * Katemonster has to go help cook stuffed bell peppers
00:10 lwq1996 atomizers? you have an ecig?
00:10 yNos yeah
00:10 lwq1996 you used to smoke?
00:10 yNos yup
00:10 yNos bad habit
00:10 lwq1996 ah...me too
00:10 lwq1996 i quit tho
00:10 CaptainNiobe speed-mobile, you aren't the only one been on a minecraft bender... :D
00:10 yNos your 14...
00:10 Toastdude Lol, Batman and the clutch... :P
00:10 lwq1996 ik
00:10 lwq1996 bad habit
00:10 yNos yeah, that was great
00:11 speed-mobile Really?
00:11 yNos really wut?
00:11 speed-mobile Who els?
00:11 lwq1996 since i stoped...i shaved off 3min from running the miles
00:11 yNos miles?
00:11 Toastdude And then the towing... :P
00:11 lwq1996 mile*
00:11 CaptainNiobe oh, speaking of batman and clutches, yNos, did he stack it at all ont eh bike?
00:11 lwq1996 im now down to 10min
00:12 speed-mobile CaptainNiobe: ?
00:13 lwq1996 im happy i quit
00:13 CaptainNiobe speed-mobile: minecraft bender? me, single player, been on it non-stop for a month... lol...
00:13 lwq1996 no bad breath
00:13 yNos thats the biggie
00:13 yNos have been smoking since i was 13..
00:13 lwq1996 stained teeth is slowly becoming white
00:13 lwq1996 ah
00:13 lwq1996 you me and chris have lots in common
00:14 MoxieMike i think we all have lots in common
00:14 lwq1996 but the only thing i want to do but dont have the money for is to get a bike
00:14 lwq1996 dirtbike*
00:14 lwq1996 or motocycle
00:14 Ponko lol the colts are 0-5
00:15 lwq1996 ponko do you like the steelers?
00:15 Ponko no not really
00:15 lwq1996 I SHUN YOU
00:15 Ponko i've made it clear who i support many times
00:15 yNos lwq1996: how old do you need to be to get a drivers lic there?
00:15 yNos 16?
00:15 Ponko and my team shunned them in the super bowl
00:15 NeWtoz I don't like the steelers either ;)
00:16 wannabe1987 tigers game was postponed for tonight....
00:16 lwq1996 16 for car permit, 18 to take the test and get the liscence
00:16 Ponko dangit
00:16 NeWtoz I'm about to start watching the Packers game
00:16 yNos and to get your cy endorsement?
00:17 Ponko i'll be seething more if they lose
00:17 lwq1996 cy endorsement?
00:17 lwq1996 i dont know what that is
00:17 yNos in michign, to ride a motorcycle you need to have a cy endorsement
00:17 yNos to be legal any ways
00:18 lwq1996 ah...
00:18 lwq1996 i dont know then
00:18 lwq1996 i would have to check pa's dmv
00:18 yNos here in mich, you can get a moped lic at 14 iirc
00:18 wannabe1987 my uncle has a ninja - ssr or something crazy like that....
00:18 wannabe1987 its an 03
00:18 wannabe1987 and he's had it 3 days now
00:18 yNos has he ridden before?
00:18 NeWtoz http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/faq/faq-mcpermit.shtml
00:19 wannabe1987 my uncle?  yes...he's had motorcycles before
00:19 yNos those are stoopid quick..
00:19 yNos good
00:19 Ponko i hope the bears win tomoz idk why
00:19 eky_dan down here in Kentucky as long as it's under 50cc's you need nothing. We have idiots who let their 10 year olds loose on mopeds all the time
00:19 NeWtoz quiet you
00:19 yNos i have seen a few people get ninja 600s for their first bike..
00:19 Ponko even if i wasn't a cheesehead i'd say that
00:19 yNos then end up in the hospital a month later.
00:19 NeWtoz how about you root for the Lions tomorrow if I root for the Packers tonight?
00:20 Ponko sure
00:20 NeWtoz frankly, I would be rooting for the Packers anyways
00:20 wannabe1987 whats stupid quick, a ninja?  yeah
00:20 Ponko but i have the feeling those bastards will pip us again
00:21 eky_dan I had a boss get a ninja 550 with money he was collecting for peoples phone payments under the assumption he could "flip it for double what he paid for it.. End of story - he got hurt, ppl had no phone and got mad. Needless to day, no longer my boss.
00:21 eky_dan *say
00:21 NeWtoz I'm going out to the living room and watch the game, bbl
00:21 Ponko eky_dan you a UK wildcat?
00:21 eky_dan Yup, UK all the way
00:21 Ponko good
00:21 Ponko my ex would like you
00:22 Ponko i wonder who you hate
00:22 eky_dan who I hate? as in sports? Louisville, of course :P
00:22 Ponko what about the big one
00:23 Ponko lots of people 'Volunteer' actually
00:23 eky_dan Duke
00:23 eky_dan ?
00:23 eky_dan heck, idk
00:23 Ponko UT
00:24 Ponko i'm a brit and i know this lol
00:24 eky_dan ah, not so much around here.  Most people leave loathing to duke and the cardinals, at least in my podunk town
00:24 wannabe1987 this is a astrange episode
00:26 Ponko lol well my ex always sings blue an white cats cats cats
00:27 eky_dan where is she from?
00:31 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
00:31 Ponko she's from Pine Knot
00:32 Toastdude Kelly!
00:32 Ponko McCreary county
00:32 Ponko -_- here we go
00:32 wannabe1987 ?
00:32 KB3NZQ joined #thegeekgroup
00:33 Ponko never mind kelly
00:34 eky_dan Small world I suppose, Ponko. Long distance I'm guessing?
00:35 KB3NZQ dr_jkl is there still a server move going on with the forums and website?
00:36 Ponko nah we're not together anymore
00:36 Ponko but yeah it was
00:37 eky_dan you ever have an online friend from Kentucky named Jess?
00:39 Ponko nope
00:40 eky_dan lol, okay, that could have been weird.  Your story draws a parallel with a friend my wife had online from "across the pond"
00:42 Ponko lol
00:43 Ponko AHH FFS
00:43 Ponko 3-2 and we'll go 4-1 you flipping watch
00:43 Ponko hate the falcons
00:44 Ponko but we need to close the bastards down and that was ridiculously easy
00:44 Ponko seething again
00:45 Ponko pick 6 NeWtoz
00:45 Ponko only team 5-0 that'll be fun
00:49 KB3NZQ ynos you here
00:49 yNos yup
00:49 KB3NZQ check your face book
00:50 KB3NZQ thank you
00:50 yNos np
00:50 yNos how are things out tere?
00:50 KB3NZQ dark and cold
00:50 KB3NZQ and i need to go to bed cause i have to work in the AM
00:51 yNos same here
00:51 yNos almost 9pm
00:51 wannabe1987 awww
00:51 wannabe1987 old people
00:51 KB3NZQ yep
00:52 wannabe1987 lol
00:52 KB3NZQ not at you wannabe1987
00:52 wannabe1987 huh
00:53 eky_dan lol, so how old are we talking here?
00:53 wannabe1987 older than me (24)
00:53 KB3NZQ me april of 1989
00:53 tonsofpcs joined #thegeekgroup
00:53 Toastdude What day in April?
00:53 eky_dan lol, I guess I fall in between you two - march of 89
00:53 KB3NZQ 4/4/89
00:54 yNos 2/2/82
00:54 yNos mine is easy ;)
00:54 Toastdude Lol
00:54 wannabe1987 so young!  (not ynos tho, sorry)
00:54 wannabe1987 1987 here....
00:54 Ponko OMFG
00:55 KB3NZQ i have a friend who was born at 5pm 4/3/90 and i was 4:30 am 4/4/89
00:55 Toastdude Haha 98 :P
00:55 KB3NZQ typo
00:55 wannabe1987 o.o
00:55 wannabe1987 you're like twins :P
00:55 KB3NZQ both years are to be 89
00:55 wannabe1987 i figured :P
00:55 wannabe1987 haha
00:55 wannabe1987 i like firefly, they have a female mechanic :D
00:55 Toastdude :)
00:56 KB3NZQ well time for sleep
00:56 KB3NZQ night all
00:56 wannabe1987 night KB3NZQ
00:56 eky_dan goodnight KB3NZQ
00:56 Toastdude Now, whenever I watch Firefly, I can't see Mal without thinking of Captain Hammer
00:56 Toastdude :P
00:59 Ponko NeWtoz can you do me a favour and STOP rooting for us?
00:59 Ponko lol
00:59 astro73 see, whenever i watch castle, i think of mal
01:01 wannabe1987 astro73!  you have fluffy hair
01:02 wannabe1987 and why's jayne turning them in?!
01:02 Toastdude Cause he's Jayne
01:03 wannabe1987 asshole
01:04 Toastdude Yep
01:05 wannabe1987 yay the dr (whoever he is....) saved a life tho...
01:06 wannabe1987 Why Must People Capitalize Every Word When They Type?
01:07 Cookingmonster ...
01:07 Katemonster Because It's Fun.
01:07 wannabe1987 exactly.  fucking stupid
01:07 Katemonster :p
01:07 wannabe1987 No. Its. Not
01:07 Toastdude Because A Lot Of People Like To Capitalize Every Word In A Sentence.
01:07 Katemonster Not Helping, Toast.
01:07 Toastdude :P
01:08 wannabe1987 i just "attacked" someone for it....
01:08 Katemonster that's unbecoming of a lady.
01:08 wannabe1987 i'm not a lady.  are you?
01:08 Katemonster ...says the biggest bitch in the land.
01:08 wannabe1987 lol
01:09 Toastdude Lol
01:09 NeWtoz lol Ponko
01:10 Ponko yeah not funny i'm seething
01:10 wannabe1987 her? his? reply "XDDDD You Sound Just Like My Brother. I Do It Cause It's Fun. Or Like When I'm Insulting, Like? Uhm, "Hey Bitch, Shut The Fuck Up And Stop Worrying About My Grammar." "
01:11 wannabe1987 lolololol jayne doesn't get his money :D
01:12 Toastdude In Other Words: YSLMYIDICIFOLWIILUHBSTFUASWAMY.
01:12 Toastdude :P
01:12 wannabe1987 thats what you get when you try to yeah
01:12 wannabe1987 i forgot what i was gonna say :P
01:12 Toastdude Lol
01:13 Katemonster here's the solution to all of your problems, ponko: http://youtu.be/Vx6OpRb5A7Y
01:13 wannabe1987 lwq1996 !!!
01:13 Katemonster ....?
01:16 wannabe1987 .radar
01:16 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=grr&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
01:17 astro73 wannabe1987: did that cloud just explode around us?
01:17 wannabe1987 i think so o.o
01:17 wannabe1987 i was looking for florida, actually....
01:18 eadthem well so i cleaned my cast iron pan today after lunch   just salt rub and then oil  followed by heating on med low for a while just to cure the finish a little
01:18 wannabe1987 i don't have cast iron :(
01:18 eadthem i just went to checck on it   i picked up the glass lid handle and the lid fell back down on to the pan   the plastic handle had melted it had gotten so hot
01:18 Toastdude Whoa, that's a creepy cloud formation...
01:18 eky_dan I have lots of cast iron, whatcha need wannabe?
01:19 wannabe1987 pans.  preferably.
01:19 eadthem what cloud formation?
01:19 LemPhone joined #thegeekgroup
01:19 eky_dan Would a cast iron oil pan work? jk, I have a bunch of old pans (slightly rusted, abet still fixable) somebody could get otta my way for shipping
01:20 astro73 also, I'm now reasonably certain that meteorologists speak their own language above and beyond most sciences
01:20 astro73 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBZ_(meteorology)
01:20 eadthem there is no cloud formation
01:20 Toastdude The clouds above Gr
01:20 LemPhone every science has it's own language
01:20 eadthem the radar is blank
01:20 Toastdude Not for me...
01:21 eadthem theres 2 bird spikes  and ground clutter+ background noise
01:21 eadthem over GR
01:21 Toastdude Well, whatever's on the radar
01:21 wannabe1987 i learned how the other day to fix rusted cast iron pans :D
01:21 astro73 eadthem: is that what that is?
01:22 eadthem the 2 spikes heading toward milwaulkee are bird spikes
01:22 LemPhone with a wire wheel on an angle grinder?
01:22 Toastdude Bird spikes?
01:22 eadthem caused by near by planes birds or other mechanical things
01:22 Toastdude Ah
01:22 eadthem or caused by ajacent radar stations scanning across GR at the same time its listening
01:22 astro73 so why is it increasing around the hotspots? or is it all just noise?
01:22 eadthem the green and dark blue is ground clutter  and the light blue is background noise
01:22 eky_dan well, if ya want em, their yours as soon as I get em outta the barn
01:23 eadthem the sky temprature is changeing as we go in to nighttime  thats part of why it appears to be growing or shrinking
01:23 Toastdude Ah...
01:23 eadthem sky temp as in microwave temp    not accual farenhight or celceus
01:24 astro73 see, i couldn't really make heads or tails of that beyond "it's increasing"
01:24 LemPhone .w microwave temperature
01:24 BotSteve "A microwave oven (often referred to colloquially simply as a 'microwave') is a kitchen appliance that heats food by dielectric heating." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_oven
01:24 LemPhone lol
01:24 astro73 .w dBZ
01:24 BotSteve "dBZ (meteorology), decibels of Z, a meteorological measure of equivalent reflectivity (Z) of a radar signal" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DBZ
01:25 eadthem http://descanso.jpl.nasa.gov/Monograph/series10/06_Reid_chapt+6.pdf
01:25 wannabe1987 .radar
01:25 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=grr&product=NCR&overlay=11101111&loop=yes
01:25 eadthem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noise_temperature
01:25 LemPhone wannabe, how you fixing the cast iron pans?
01:25 wannabe1987 so does that (picture/image) mean somtheings happening over gr?
01:26 wannabe1987 shove it in the oven at 500*F i believe
01:26 LemPhone heh, that is one way
01:26 eadthem it means that the sky noise temp is cooling  as pepole go to bed
01:26 eadthem this means that other noise sources show up   as increasing ground clutter
01:26 astro73 wannabe1987: apparently not. according to WP, anything under 8 is nothing, and <23 is hardly worth mentioning
01:27 wannabe1987 hm
01:27 LemPhone better way is to hit it with a wire wheel on angle grinder, then scrub it with rock salt and olive oil
01:27 wannabe1987 no, put it in the oven on a self cleaning run :)
01:27 LemPhone lol
01:27 eadthem its the same reason why AM radio stations power down at night   and the same reason why other radio signals are stronger at night
01:27 Toastdude LOL, I thought you said "cast iron pants" LemPhone
01:28 LemPhone that would be uncomfortable
01:28 LemPhone especially if they were cast on you
01:28 wannabe1987 ...
01:28 Toastdude Yes, quite..
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01:29 * astro73 files meteorology under "deep magic"
01:29 LemPhone sigh, I really don't wanna work today
01:29 LemPhone feel kinda crap
01:29 Toastdude :(
01:29 LemPhone half tempted to to jump off this bus and get on one heading back to my place
01:30 wannabe1987 :(
01:30 LemPhone yeah
01:30 LemPhone I really need the money though
01:30 LemPhone sick of being broke
01:30 wannabe1987 money is good
01:31 LemPhone indeed
01:31 wannabe1987 i'd like more. :P
01:31 wannabe1987 not greedy or anything, but a few more bucks wouldn't hurt, i'd be able to pay people
01:31 LemPhone heh
01:33 * Cprossu yawns and starts up garrys mod
01:34 eky_dan_ joined #thegeekgroup
01:34 astro73 wannabe1987: you'd be able to afford driving and being social
01:34 LemPhone morning Cprossu
01:34 wannabe1987 that too
01:34 Cprossu good evening LemPhone xD
01:34 Toastdude Cprossu: You have a server?
01:34 LemPhone lol
01:34 Cprossu yeah, of course I do
01:35 yNos gmornin cprossu
01:35 Cprossu addons to hell though
01:35 Toastdude May I PM you?
01:35 yNos NO
01:35 Cprossu 72.222.196.252, pw is lol
01:35 LemPhone lol
01:35 Toastdude Lol
01:36 Toastdude Is that the server?
01:36 yNos am trying to get a default route into my speedtouch st516
01:36 yNos grr
01:36 LemPhone no, he just posted a random IP for the hell of it toast
01:37 lwq1996 everyone go to natgeo....omg i love whats on
01:37 Toastdude Shuddup :P JK
01:38 Cprossu spacebuild, spacebuld enhancement entities, experimental, fortifications, models, simple prop protection, smartsnap, resource dist 3, gas systems, fin tool, wiremod, unofficial wiremod extras, pewpew, and custom addon framework,
01:38 Cprossu @ Toastdude
01:38 Cprossu and any other gmod fans
01:38 * LemPhone beats Toastdude with the encyclopedia clueponica
01:38 Toastdude ...
01:38 Toastdude I'm new to GMod..
01:39 Cprossu PlayX too for boring times too
01:39 * lwq1996 beats toast period
01:39 Toastdude -_-
01:39 Cprossu me and my gmod buddies watched dr. strangelove inside of gmod one day.
01:39 * astro73 just beats
01:39 wannabe1987 lee!  who the fuck is justin?
01:39 lwq1996 boshoven?
01:39 wannabe1987 no
01:40 wannabe1987 this dude that posted as an asshole to *me* on brittany's status
01:40 lwq1996 lastname would be helpul
01:40 wannabe1987 he had a anime name
01:40 wannabe1987 sorry
01:40 wannabe1987 http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=232209786835552&amp;id=100001395967455&amp;notif_t=feed_comment_reply
01:40 wannabe1987 that
01:41 LemPhone yup, going home, feel like crap, not going to work feeling like this
01:42 wannabe1987 alright
01:42 wannabe1987 feel better soon LemPhone
01:42 Toastdude Get better LemPhone
01:42 LemPhone yeah, kinda sick of being sick
01:42 wannabe1987 don't blame you
01:42 LemPhone my job is pretty mentally taxing as well
01:43 Toastdude :(
01:43 Toastdude How so?
01:43 LemPhone helpdesk toastdude
01:43 wannabe1987 take my love, take my land, take me where i cannot stand......
01:43 wannabe1987 ah
01:44 Toastdude Oh..
01:44 wannabe1987 whose gonna answer all the questions?
01:44 LemPhone firefly
01:44 Toastdude There's no place I'd rather be, since I've found Serinity
01:44 LemPhone serenity*
01:45 Toastdude Yeah, that..
01:45 Toastdude :P
01:45 Photon939 hey all
01:46 Photon939 just took a picture of the full moon
01:46 Toastdude Hi Photon939
01:46 Photon939 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1181169/P1000304.jpg
01:46 LemPhone best line from the series and/or movie "for nigh on 6 months now I ain't had nothing twixt my nethers that were't run on batteries"
01:46 wannabe1987 ooo
01:46 wannabe1987 pretty moon
01:47 wannabe1987 from where, Photon939?
01:47 Photon939 from outside my dorm
01:47 LemPhone 5 points to the person who can gimme mal's reply to iy
01:47 LemPhone lo kate, lol at the nick btw
01:47 Katemonster thanks.  you hadn't seen that before?
01:48 LemPhone hadn't noticed it
01:48 LemPhone it's pretty subtle
01:48 Ponko omg
01:48 Ponko hey i'm back for now
01:48 lwq1996 im a nomster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:48 wannabe1987 kaylee
01:49 Katemonster Katenomster is more creative than Kate_afk_eating
01:49 LemPhone come on, no-one know's what Mal's reply is to Kaylee saying that?
01:49 LemPhone yeah, tis good kate, very clever
01:51 CaptainNiobe 'night all :)
01:51 wannabe1987 night
01:51 wannabe1987 i googled it, LemPhone, and found the answer
01:52 Toastdude Night CaptainNiobe|AFK !!
01:52 yNos Cprossu: thompson speedtouch modems - have you ever had to deal with them?
01:52 LemPhone that's cheating wannabe!
01:52 wannabe1987 so.
01:52 LemPhone yNos, they are crap
01:53 LemPhone dealt with them lots
01:53 yNos in bridge mode, this one isnt too bad..
01:53 Toastdude Reply to iy?
01:53 yNos the interface blows
01:53 LemPhone indeed it does
01:53 LemPhone so what is it wannabe?
01:53 yNos just figured out how to do it all through cli.. because the only working browser i have on this machine is links
01:53 LemPhone heh
01:53 wannabe1987 "Oh, God! I can't know that!"
01:54 LemPhone heh
01:54 LemPhone .cookie wannabe1987
01:54 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a double chocolate cookie!
01:54 astro73 I could stand to hear a little more.
01:54 yNos thank gawd i only needed it in bridgemode
01:54 wannabe1987 mmmmm cookies.
01:54 wannabe1987 lol
01:54 LemPhone lol, nice astro
01:54 wannabe1987 lol astro73 - thats jaynes line
01:54 LemPhone yeah
01:55 astro73 yes. I'm well aware. Just because I don't own a trenchcoat of a dirtish hue doesn't mean i don't know it
01:55 LemPhone heh
01:55 LemPhone quick, name Jayne's favourite rifle
01:56 LemPhone the one he tries to trade to Mal for Saffron
01:56 wannabe1987 who is mal?!
01:56 wannabe1987 THEY DON"T USE EACH others names enough
01:56 LemPhone lol
01:56 LemPhone err, yes they do
01:56 Toastdude Mal is the captain...
01:56 astro73 vera
01:56 LemPhone nj astro
01:57 wannabe1987 ok
01:57 LemPhone extra points if you can name the actress who plays saffron
01:57 wannabe1987 all they call him is "captn"  and the other guy is doctor
01:57 wannabe1987 but he's simon
01:57 wannabe1987 cuz he's a tam
01:57 LemPhone nope, they say Mal all the freaking time
01:57 LemPhone not as much as they say captn, but enough
01:58 wannabe1987 ok
01:58 Katemonster '-'
01:58 wannabe1987 hey look, the called him mel
01:58 wannabe1987 :P
01:58 wannabe1987 who is the husband dude?
01:59 LemPhone the pilot?
01:59 wannabe1987 sure
01:59 wannabe1987 idk
02:00 astro73 wash?
02:00 astro73 halborne washbourne?
02:00 astro73 iirc
02:00 LemPhone gah, I was thinking Vash for some reason
02:00 astro73 no, Vash the Stampede is entirely different.
02:00 LemPhone yeah I know
02:01 astro73 actually, maybe not entirely different...
02:01 wannabe1987 lol
02:01 LemPhone knew it was wrong, but couldn't remember the right one
02:02 wannabe1987 they're being shocked
02:02 astro73 and niska just stands back and enjoys it
02:02 wannabe1987 the old dude?
02:03 Toastdude Yep
02:03 Toastdude So you're on "War Stories"?
02:03 wannabe1987 i keep plowing through so sure?
02:03 Toastdude Lol
02:04 astro73 i think that's War Stories
02:04 LemPhone logging off, back in a bit.
02:04 Toastdude I said that astro73 ^
02:04 astro73 which leads to one of the most awkard moments in firefly history
02:04 Toastdude Lol
02:04 wannabe1987 ..
02:04 Toastdude Which moment?...
02:05 wannabe1987 sh
02:05 wannabe1987 don't tell yet
02:05 Toastdude Lol
02:06 astro73 at the end. Which jayne walks in on.
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02:07 wannabe1987 hi egrsteve
02:07 Toastdude Hi egrsteve!
02:08 Toastdude I forget.... Oh well
02:08 egrsteve hello wannabe1987 and toastdude
02:08 Cprossu hey egrsteve lol
02:08 egrsteve hi cpu
02:09 egrsteve abything new in the world
02:10 wannabe1987 what the hell
02:10 wannabe1987 hi
02:10 wannabe1987 i'm watching firefly
02:10 egrsteve good series
02:10 wannabe1987 ik.  idk why its taken me so long to watch it tho
02:13 wannabe1987 i saw serenity for the first time last year
02:14 hackbat hmm
02:14 hackbat I think that might off been the world's worst sammich
02:14 eadthem so is firefly anygood
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02:14 hackbat idk
02:15 wannabe1987 um yes?
02:15 hackbat but read dwarf is awesome
02:15 wannabe1987 .sandwich hackbat
02:15 BotSteve Here you go, hackbat, I made you a ham and cheese on italian sandwich!
02:15 * hackbat made a chicken salad with fryed egg on white wheat bread
02:15 hackbat *fired
02:15 hackbat *fried
02:16 wannabe1987 fired egg?
02:16 hackbat I reuntied a mother and it's child
02:16 hackbat Fried
02:16 hackbat like over easy
02:16 wannabe1987 lol ik
02:16 wannabe1987 LOL
02:16 hackbat it wasn't horrible
02:16 hackbat but the textures
02:17 hackbat the runny yolk with the rough chicken
02:17 wannabe1987 lol kaylee looks so scared with a gun in her hand....
02:17 wannabe1987 and river....w/o looking o.O
02:18 Toastdude Ikr?
02:19 astro73 oh river. how much we love you, despite scaring the crap out of us.
02:19 Sgt_Lemming "I swallowed a bug"
02:19 eadthem red dwarf is in the same catagory of syfy shows as stargate universe   WWE RAW  and haven
02:20 Sgt_Lemming wwe raw is shite
02:20 wannabe1987 havne't seen universe, only atlantis
02:20 Sgt_Lemming Stargate universe was annoying
02:21 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, Biscotti
02:21 astro73 eadthem: ... except red dwarf is old british commedy and SGU takes itself seriously?
02:21 wannabe1987 this scene guys?  where mal was trying to kiss whats her face?
02:22 astro73 yup. that's the one
02:22 astro73 "Take me, sir. Take me hard."
02:22 eadthem you remeber the 200th SG1 episode  where there discussing martens TV serise wormhole EXTREAM
02:22 eadthem and there playing the idea for a yonger edger cast
02:22 Sgt_Lemming craig charles (A.k.a. Retsil Divad) is a legend
02:22 Toastdude Oh, that one...
02:22 eadthem SGU is like that   only compleatly oposit
02:23 eadthem or least it was for 2nd thrue 5th episodes  i stopped watching after that
02:23 astro73 I saw some of SGU and and a few red dwarf. unless there's two red dwarf shows?
02:23 eadthem the 1st was kinda intresting pilot wise but thats about the end
02:24 eadthem the show died when they decided not to have atleast 2 members of the orignal cast involved  and opted for the darker lighting so they didnt have to spend as much money on the set
02:27 Sgt_Lemming right... time for a reformat
02:27 Sgt_Lemming keep running out of space on C: drive cause I made it too small
02:28 Sgt_Lemming now trying to unrar an 8GB file and can't, because the drive runs out of space when I do >_<
02:28 eadthem use 7 zip
02:29 eadthem and tell it to extract here
02:29 Sgt_Lemming I loathe 7zip
02:29 Sgt_Lemming such a crappy interface
02:29 eadthem y?
02:29 eadthem its opensource   its faster    its multithreaded  and compresses better
02:29 Sgt_Lemming it still has a crappy interface
02:29 eadthem what do you expect if you run it out of console :p
02:30 Sgt_Lemming a non crap interface
02:31 astro73 i've seen worse. It's not bad
02:31 Sgt_Lemming it's not good either
02:32 Sgt_Lemming besides which, that is not the only reason I want to format
02:32 Sgt_Lemming been thinking about it for a week or two
02:32 Sgt_Lemming staw that broke the camels back
02:33 Katemonster why is the camel carrying straws in the first place?
02:33 Sgt_Lemming because there is a mcdonalds in the middle of the attacama desert
02:34 eadthem more to the point whats a staw?
02:34 Sgt_Lemming a typo
02:38 lwq1996 .tell
02:38 BotSteve Sorry, .tell is not yet implemented.  Use BotSteve: tell
02:38 lwq1996 why isnt it?
02:38 Toastdude Because
02:38 lwq1996 then fix it toast
02:38 lwq1996 if you know so much
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02:38 lwq1996 i learned sqlite
02:38 Toastdude I don't
02:39 lwq1996 lol
02:39 Toastdude Where?
02:39 lwq1996 here
02:39 lwq1996 and from the manual
02:39 wannabe1987 "trash" (ep)
02:40 Toastdude Ah
02:40 * wannabe1987 has cake
02:40 astro73 lwq1996: have you played with it?
02:40 * wannabe1987 just started ep
02:41 lwq1996 yes i learned enough to do a database
02:43 astro73 have you written code with it?
02:44 lwq1996 um clarify that please
02:45 Katemonster ponko, don't worry so much
02:45 yNos ok
02:45 yNos time for bed
02:46 wannabe1987 aw
02:46 * yNos waves
02:46 wannabe1987 ok
02:46 lwq1996 awe :c
02:46 yNos i have been dinking around on here too long
02:46 Ponko lol kate i wasn't worried
02:46 lwq1996 lol
02:47 lwq1996 BATS
02:47 wannabe1987 BatSteve!
02:47 Katemonster BATSTEVE MY HERO
02:47 * lwq1996 wraps his leg around batsteve
02:47 wannabe1987 everyone's favorite guy....better than jayne, simon AND mel! :P
02:47 lwq1996 HES TAKEN
02:47 wannabe1987 don't be creepy lee
02:47 * Ponko throws an 80mph pass in the route of BatSteve
02:47 lwq1996 lol
02:47 Cprossu Toastdude: PM
02:48 BatSteve The fact that there is one new pilot in the sky today is PROOF that there is a God, and that He has a weird sense of humor.
02:48 astro73 lwq1996: have you written a program (preferrabley several) that use it?
02:48 wannabe1987 yeah?
02:48 wannabe1987 BatSteve why?
02:48 * BatSteve receives!  The entire stadium can hear the catch!
02:48 lwq1996 no astro
02:48 Ponko BatSteve need some ice buddy
02:48 * Katemonster lights a giant torch in steve's honor
02:49 Ponko i might need some too lol
02:49 BatSteve Because a kid just passed his test to get his license today, and no one but The Lord Himself could have made that happen.
02:49 astro73 then you should do so
02:49 Katemonster ..........
02:49 Ponko that bad eh?
02:49 eadthem 1E+2  is 100?
02:50 BatSteve When I say he made mistakes that I didn't even know you could make, I'm not exaggerating.  He honestly made mistakes that most pilots have never even heard of.
02:50 Katemonster that... sounds fun.
02:50 BatSteve I think he invented a new one, about halfway through the flight.
02:51 wannabe1987 how
02:54 astro73 story time?
02:55 wannabe1987 o i like stories
02:57 BatSteve Who here has taken a road test?
02:57 wannabe1987 for drivers lic?  i have
02:58 astro73 everyone except maybe lee?
02:58 Ponko for?
02:58 wannabe1987 adn Toastdude, he's younger than lee
02:59 lwq1996 i havent
02:59 BatSteve Ok.  You know how you go driving in a car that has a brake on the passenger side?
02:59 lwq1996 i would be surprised if toast has
02:59 BatSteve That the teacher can stomp on if need be?
02:59 lwq1996 lol
02:59 wannabe1987 yeah
02:59 astro73 BatSteve: yeah.
02:59 masterofmonks No.
02:59 wannabe1987 ok, so most of us have
02:59 lwq1996 they dont do that in pa
02:59 Ponko dual controls batsteve
03:00 lwq1996 they make u use your own car
03:00 masterofmonks Same in Florida.
03:00 wannabe1987 strang
03:00 wannabe1987 e
03:00 wannabe1987 anyway
03:00 Ponko BatSteve you mean dual controls?
03:00 astro73 (not at the test, just in school. keep going)
03:01 BatSteve Yeah
03:01 BatSteve Ok
03:01 BatSteve Now, everyone knows a story about a person who's driving and the instructor mashes on the brake, and the person mashes on the gas to compensate?
03:02 Ponko my driving instructor had a Chevy Kalos and the pedals had HE-MAN and all i could think was I HAVE THE POWERRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!
03:02 astro73 BatSteve: oh dear.
03:02 masterofmonks BatSteve: No, but continue.
03:02 Ponko oh god no
03:03 BatSteve Ok.
03:03 BatSteve That's not what this kid did
03:03 BatSteve This kid is the kind of kid who, if the instructor was mashing on the brake, would believe that the instructor was *deliberately trying to sabotage his attempt to drive* by mashin on the brake.
03:03 Ponko omg
03:04 astro73 and he was flying?
03:04 Ponko was he near to crashing?
03:04 exor674 BatSteve: ...
03:04 astro73 ok, i feel like if the examiner has to touch the controls at all, you're not ready for license. Doubly so for flying.
03:05 Ponko if your instructor has to press the pedals at all you know you're doing something wrong
03:05 BatSteve astro73: that is actually correct
03:05 BatSteve Ponko: same
03:05 BatSteve Now the thing is he's not a bad pilot
03:05 BatSteve But he has this massive resistance to anyone else telling him what to do.
03:06 Ponko but he's like me and reckless
03:06 exor674 arrogant?
03:06 Ponko but as a QB thats sometimes ok
03:06 astro73 BatSteve: and he wants to fly? with air traffic control?
03:07 BatSteve yes
03:07 BatSteve No, not at all arrogant, surprisingly
03:07 BatSteve And not even reckless
03:08 BatSteve Just very, very resistant to instruction or guidance of any kind
03:08 astro73 oh dear.
03:08 Ponko well i take instructions and follow them
03:09 wannabe1987 ah
03:09 lwq1996 ive just been mind fucked
03:09 BatSteve Which (by the way) makes me an *awesome* instructor for getting him THIS far.
03:09 lwq1996 if you watch brain games you will know
03:09 Katemonster lwq you're too young for that.
03:09 BatSteve Earnin' my dollas with him for sure.
03:09 exor674 yeah, isn't that illegal?
03:09 Ponko BatSteve i remember my teacher telling me to stand outside for misbehaving in a lesson.......
03:09 Ponko it was a flying lesson
03:10 astro73 BatSteve: as long as he keeps paying, right?
03:10 exor674 Ponko: stand outside the plane?
03:10 * wannabe1987 got hugged
03:10 BatSteve Ponko:  :D
03:10 Ponko it was a bad joke though lol
03:11 exor674 that would be an effective way to make one behave
03:11 Katemonster hey, if it's a low-wing design...
03:11 BatSteve astro73: yeah, I'll keep working with him as long as he's willing to pay and as long as I feel that he can continue to make progress.  If I thought it was hopeless, I wouldn't allow him to continue
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03:11 tonsofpcs well, the pilot is ultimately 'in charge'...
03:11 BatSteve I've been lucky.  I've only had one that I've had to put a stop to.
03:11 tonsofpcs aviate, navigate, communicate, etc.
03:11 tonsofpcs als, my ISP needs to fix this #%(#^
03:12 exor674 BatSteve: do training planes have a way to cut off the other controls?
03:12 exor674 or do you've just gotta fight the student if they're being a total dumbfuck
03:13 tonsofpcs "service revolver"?
03:13 exor674 ( also, my brain is not grammaring well right now, I should sleep )
03:13 Katemonster it's supposed to be an FAA secret, but CFIs keep tranq guns in the cockpit.
03:13 wannabe1987 sleeeeeeeeep dredre
03:14 Ponko YESSSSS GET IN THERE MY SON
03:14 Ponko sorry watching football
03:14 BatSteve exor674: open-hand slap right to the bridge of the nose
03:15 BatSteve Makes them flinch and let go of the controls
03:15 BatSteve We practice that.  (:
03:15 Katemonster LOL
03:15 Ponko what does nobody expect?
03:15 masterofmonks Note, don't ever try that with me, we will both die.
03:15 BatSteve Ponko: Roger Hoy?
03:15 astro73 for real?
03:15 BatSteve astro73: yep
03:15 Ponko lol good guess
03:15 astro73 wow.
03:16 masterofmonks One of us before the plane hits the grouns.
03:16 masterofmonks ground*
03:16 Ponko i think you know
03:16 Ponko NOBODY EXPECTS THE SPANISH INQUIS.... Oh Bugger
03:16 BatSteve The chest also works, on the center bone over the heart.  The one I forget the name of.
03:16 BatSteve But not as well.
03:17 BatSteve Good solid thump there usually shocks a person enough that they stop thinking about fighting you for the controls momentarily
03:17 BatSteve Long enough for your shouting to penetrate their panic
03:17 masterofmonks Please don't tell me you are thinking of the Sternum because if you are your anatomy is wrong.
03:17 BatSteve *center bone near, but above the heart, the bone connecting the two halves of the ribs
03:18 Katemonster sternum
03:18 masterofmonks Yeah, that is the sturnum... the heart is 4 inches to the left of that.
03:18 Ponko least it's not the scrotum......
03:18 Ponko hit a man there.....
03:18 Ponko and yeah....
03:19 masterofmonks And it's attempted murder.
03:19 wannabe1987 lol
03:19 Ponko yeah of future generations
03:19 BotSteve wannabe1987: cartown
03:19 masterofmonks Seriously.
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03:19 masterofmonks You can be tried for attempted murder for striking a man there.
03:20 Ponko really
03:20 Ponko with the foot?
03:20 masterofmonks You can cause massive hemmoraging.
03:20 Ponko ok are we on the same thing here?
03:20 wannabe1987 jayne is sitting in the desert naked
03:20 wannabe1987 i mean
03:20 wannabe1987 mel
03:20 wannabe1987 oops
03:20 masterofmonks Ponko: Yes.
03:21 astro73 wannabe1987: "Yup. That went well."
03:21 wannabe1987 jayne is stuck laying down :P
03:21 Ponko wow i never knew that was considered attempted murder
03:21 masterofmonks Ponko: because it can literally kill a man.
03:21 Ponko no kidding
03:21 masterofmonks Bleed to death in under 20 minutes.
03:22 Ponko no pun intended
03:22 wannabe1987 o.o
03:22 Ponko yet the balls are considered harder than the vagina
03:22 Ponko according to some people
03:23 Ponko anatomy wise that's wrong
03:23 * wannabe1987 starts another episode
03:23 wannabe1987 what, grow a pair of balls?
03:24 Ponko balls are considered tough and vaginas (pussies) are considered weak
03:24 BatSteve http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=IE3KdcTgrno#t=73s
03:25 wannabe1987 yeah
03:26 Ponko yet the latter can bleed for days and the former hides away at the sign of danger
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03:27 Ponko anyway enough of that
03:28 wannabe1987 lol
03:29 wannabe1987 "what'd ya'll order a dead guy for?"  jayne
03:30 wannabe1987 .in 1hour cartown
03:30 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 04:30Z
03:30 BatSteve wannabe1987: he already reminded you of that
03:30 wannabe1987 i know.  and i need him to remind me again when the other task finishes :D
03:30 BatSteve ah
03:30 BatSteve ok
03:31 wannabe1987 yes, he's my reminder for fb games :D
03:31 Ponko ok i'm happy :)
03:31 wannabe1987 o.o
03:31 wannabe1987 ok
03:33 astro73 listening to <http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/441/when-patents-attack>. Apparently even the owner doesn't know what a platforce is.
03:34 Ponko ok i'm REALLY happy now
03:36 Ponko http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2011100911/2011/REG5/packers@falcons#menu=drivechart
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03:37 Ponko yes yes yes yes yes XD
03:39 Ponko NeWtoz 5-0
03:40 Ponko and the last time we went 5-0 we won the NFL Championship......
03:40 Ponko just saying
03:40 wannabe1987 mantere - i like your quit message
03:41 Toastdude Hi BatSteve
03:41 mantere =D
03:41 Toastdude !
03:41 Toastdude Lol
03:41 Ponko 6x out of 6 can't be wrong
03:42 BatSteve hi Toastdude!
03:42 Toastdude So that's where my socks went...
03:43 wannabe1987 thats why only 1/2 of them come out of the dryer as well :P
03:43 Katemonster TOOOOOOOAST
03:44 Ponko NeWtoz you here?
03:44 Toastdude KAAAAAAAATE
03:45 wannabe1987 Ponko, NeWtoz is stuffing himself with cookies
03:46 wannabe1987 ...
03:46 Katemonster from which end?
03:47 Ponko oh god kate
03:47 Ponko really
03:47 Katemonster :(
03:47 Katemonster i'm sorry.  these things just come out.
03:47 astro73 lol
03:47 * Katemonster sets +q on self
03:47 astro73 Katemonster: you're special and i like it.
03:47 Ponko lol
03:48 wannabe1987 lol
03:48 astro73 unrelated: has anyone seen real steel?
03:49 BatSteve Negative
03:49 wannabe1987 no, i hear its suppoised to be good
03:49 Katemonster it seriously is a problem though.  i have a hard time keeping my sarcasm in check at inopportune times.
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03:49 Katemonster also, i caught a clown beetle.
03:50 wannabe1987 a what?
03:50 astro73 wannabe1987: sports movie with robots? sign me up.
03:50 Katemonster large slow stupid black flightless beetle.
03:50 Katemonster clown beetle.
03:51 Katemonster http://www.desertusa.com/mag01/may/papr/photos/stinkbug_0053.jpg
03:51 wannabe1987 ik them as stinkbugs
03:52 astro73 it doesn't look very funny...
03:52 Katemonster the problem is the term "stinkbug" is used as a blanket term for waaay too many types of insects
03:53 wannabe1987 lol astro73
03:55 wannabe1987 wow thats a good pilot o.o
03:55 astro73 i try
03:56 wannabe1987 lol
03:58 Toastdude Bye all
03:58 Katemonster bye toast
03:58 BatSteve bye Toast-Away
03:58 BatSteve sorry I missed you
03:58 wannabe1987 bye
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04:01 Ponko ok time to go to my room
04:01 Ponko brb folk
04:02 wannabe1987 ...
04:02 astro73 random: I see myself not as a code warrior, nor an inventor, not even an entrepreneur, but a toolsmith.
04:02 wannabe1987 how so?
04:03 astro73 I'm not in it to make money. or to create something revolutionary
04:03 astro73 i just try to make something that'll help someone else (and sometimes myself) do something great.
04:04 wannabe1987 astro73 were you asking about real steel?
04:04 astro73 and in some ways, that's more important
04:04 wannabe1987 :nods:
04:04 astro73 wannabe1987: yeah.
04:04 wannabe1987 ian sniesak, an acquiaintance on fb, said this about themovie "Just watched Real Steel. Better than I thought it was going to be, I'm really glad I was blessed with the opportunity to be in a great film like this one."
04:05 astro73 nice. I'll have to see if i can finangle a ticket
04:06 astro73 now, the truely revolutionary stuff has no tools, i think.
04:06 astro73 at least from reading the story of macintosh
04:06 * Katemonster is going to log off IRC for the night
04:06 astro73 g'night kate
04:07 Katemonster night
04:07 astro73 you can't even credit jobs with the idea of it.
04:07 wannabe1987 night kate
04:08 Katemonster night
04:08 astro73 but the lesser stuff? They still enrich the world, right?
04:08 wannabe1987 yes
04:08 wannabe1987 well
04:08 wannabe1987 what lesser stuff?
04:09 astro73 like ... idk
04:09 astro73 nvm that
04:09 astro73 but you look at say digital art
04:10 astro73 many of them use photoshop, frequently exclusively
04:10 astro73 the guys behind photoshop? They're the real force behind it
04:11 astro73 or the programmers at pixar
04:11 astro73 they make stuff possible
04:11 BatSteve astro73: like Git
04:12 astro73 like git
04:12 astro73 or gcc
04:12 astro73 or python
04:13 astro73 lets say I make a facebook. Through my tool, people create a new kind of social interaction
04:13 astro73 and some tools are revolutionary
04:14 wannabe1987 mhm
04:14 astro73 like the mac, the internet, social networks, cell phones, etc
04:14 eadthem muahahaha   how to pisss of a spam server attempting to deliver mail to your server
04:15 astro73 but most of them are just quiet improvements. Like github.
04:15 astro73 or git in general
04:15 eadthem SmtpMsgIPBanSpammers "220 final.servegame.com Service ready
04:15 astro73 it does nothing new. Just tries to do the old stuff better.
04:16 wannabe1987 "If FE is Iron, then does Female = Iron Man?"
04:16 eadthem and of corse right after getting a command 220 there server will proceed to try to send the message  however my server will have closed the connection right after the custom error message
04:18 astro73 like my cropper? I can only hope someone will find it useful and it will help them create something
04:19 astro73 I don't make horseshoes. I make hammers and anvils and forges. To help create better horseshoes.
04:20 * astro73 isn't wearing socks
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04:22 astro73 Does anyone else see themselves in some role?
04:23 wannabe1987 i'm slightly confused
04:23 wannabe1987 but don't worry.  its 12:30 am
04:23 wannabe1987 don't you have class tomorrow?
04:24 astro73 i do
04:24 astro73 like the other 4 days in the work week
04:25 wannabe1987 ok
04:26 * wannabe1987 got 34mpg last tank :D
04:27 astro73 wannabe1987: like you seem to be a ... mediator? Even though that's not quite right.
04:29 wannabe1987 mediator?
04:29 wannabe1987 how so
04:30 BotSteve wannabe1987: cartown
04:30 astro73 like people.
04:30 astro73 maybe observer is closer?
04:31 astro73 like what do you do in IRC and your social circles?
04:32 wannabe1987 i make sure people get the fuck along.
04:32 wannabe1987 make sure they're ok
04:32 wannabe1987 i play therapist sometimes
04:32 astro73 ok. mediator sounds right.
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04:33 astro73 (which, thankfully for you, has a pretty epic image in my head)
04:33 wannabe1987 yeah?
04:34 astro73 the blue chick http://dresdencodak.com/2008/08/16/the-mediator/
04:35 NeWtoz Ponko, just finished watching the game
04:35 NeWtoz GB played a nice second half
04:35 Ponko that was fun
04:36 Ponko i was expecting the Falcons to do what they normally do and get lucky
04:37 NeWtoz Your defense must of made some good adjustments after those first couple of drives
04:38 astro73 wannabe1987: actually the bottom of http://dresdencodak.com/2008/07/01/the-rising-sun/ is better
04:39 Ponko i say lol
04:41 astro73 (scifi transhumanism aside)
04:42 wannabe1987 astro73 - nice
04:42 * wannabe1987 tries nutella for the *first* time
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04:50 * wannabe1987 will save the last episode of firefly for another day....SLEEP time now
04:50 wannabe1987 night all
04:50 astro73 me too
04:50 wannabe1987 .in 3days cartown
04:50 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind on 13 Oct 2011 at 04:50Z
04:50 wannabe1987 yes, you need sleep, you has school.  i just have pool closing :P
04:58 * wannabe1987 only saw 7 episodes of firefly tonight :D
04:59 astro73 wanna help close our pool?
04:59 lwq1996 night kelly
05:00 wannabe1987 astro73 only if i get paid :P
05:00 wannabe1987 night lee.  you haven't been talkative tonight, you ok?
05:00 lwq1996 im searching the we for electronic tools
05:00 lwq1996 web*
05:01 wannabe1987 ah
05:01 wannabe1987 ok
05:01 wannabe1987 .log
05:01 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
05:01 Ponko-Sleeping night
05:01 wannabe1987 Ponko-Sleeping we live across the pond but we go to bed at the same time
05:01 wannabe1987 wtf
05:01 wannabe1987 :P
05:01 wannabe1987 night
05:01 lwq1996 lol
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05:16 Seroster Blergh
05:18 BatSteve blargh even?
05:18 Seroster No
05:18 Seroster Blergh
05:18 Seroster That is how much this day sucks so far =P
05:45 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Lead Head on Project Vinn
05:49 Seroster OH YEAH! VOMIT!
05:50 Seroster At least it aint in my shoes
05:50 Seroster Cya
05:50 lwq1996 seroster brought home a drunk girl?
05:50 S^Away He aint a girl, I learnt the hard way
05:50 lwq1996 lol
05:52 dr_jkl who said my name
05:53 lwq1996 what?
05:56 dr_jkl oh
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05:58 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream: http://goo.gl/WBSiE |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2  | RIP Steve Jobs |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug".  Thank you!
06:18 Sgt_Lemming hey anyone know if TGG has a sheet metal bending brake?
06:19 Cprossu they do not Sgt_Lemming
06:19 Sgt_Lemming damn, one tool they should get :-P
06:21 Cprossu having no money screws things up they 'should' get
06:21 * Sgt_Lemming nods
06:22 Sgt_Lemming know that feeling all too well
06:22 Sgt_Lemming I look at the stuff they get donated and drool madly
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07:10 Sythen mornin all
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08:40 angy BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 I'll be there for the halloween!
08:40 BotSteve angy: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
09:30 Sgt_Lemming http://uncrate.com/stuff/steve-jobs-in-carbonite-iphone-case/
09:41 hackbat Oh that's fucking cool
09:41 hackbat you can loan books to people for 14 days on kindle
10:05 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdWkKKSckNk&amp;feature=player_embedded <--- very clever/cool ps3 ad
10:09 Av_Nekoroms finally found out what type of cloth my foam machine needs
10:09 Av_Nekoroms YAY
10:12 Sythen MORNING ALL
10:12 angy MORNING SYTHEN
10:12 Sythen ELLO ANGY
10:12 Sythen damn caps hehe
10:12 angy :)
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11:39 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: so I have some books here.  One new one that I got at a book sale over the weekend, It seems Class AB_2 is likely the most efficient for your needs.
11:39 tonsofpcs I can scan these two pages
11:41 tonsofpcs http://www.abebooks.com/book-search/isbn/0131603663/ is the one in front of me, seems interesting, likely good to help with your learning
11:42 tonsofpcs (I have the 1972 printing)
11:49 Nazca so ... any tips on how to convince a local neon sign shop to give you an NST for free?
11:55 tonsofpcs nst?
11:58 Sythen http://i52.tinypic.com/nbotwz.jpg
12:05 Nazca neon sign transformer
12:06 tonsofpcs offer money?  :-p
12:07 Nazca free :p
12:07 Nazca I'm skint
12:43 tonsofpcs ask for a dead one?
12:45 Nazca yea, think that's going to be the idea
12:45 Nazca would be nice to get hold of one that's partly working... reinsulating could be a problem
12:51 yNos quoth adobe: Hello today is *day, please download the newest update and give us your first born son.
12:51 yNos grr
12:52 yNos adobe can go smokeapole
12:52 Sythen lol
12:53 yNos so how are things out there on teh inter-tubes?
12:54 Sythen all is well this end
12:56 Sythen currently enjoying my few days off
12:58 yNos lucky you.
12:58 yNos i got paged 6 times this weekend.
12:58 yNos YAY-14 days straight!
12:58 yNos at least..
12:58 Sythen lol
12:58 Sythen i know that feeling
12:58 yNos time to get to my monday ragemeeting
12:59 * yNos wants out of corporate IT.
12:59 Sythen i did
12:59 Sythen i work in educational now lol
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13:14 yNos out of meeting
13:14 yNos i was happier working in a small company
13:14 yNos <50 people
13:14 yNos less bs to deal with.
13:15 yNos generally dont have to worry about shareholders.
13:15 yNos less stress in deneral
13:15 yNos **general
13:16 Sythen yup
13:18 wannabe1987 why'd you move to scase then?
13:18 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
13:18 BotSteve At 08:40Z, angy asked me to tell wannabe1987 I'll be there for the halloween!
13:19 yNos i went to steelcase 5 years ago, knowing that i could make more $$
13:19 yNos well
13:20 yNos $$ dont mean shit if you never get to spend time with your kid or go out to do the things you want to do.
13:20 wannabe1987 yeah
13:21 Sythen tis why i like my current job
13:22 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell angy that i'm happy he'll be here for halloween, does that mean no thanksgiving?
13:22 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when angy is around.
13:22 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
13:22 BotSteve You're welcome, wannabe1987
13:22 wannabe1987 .cookie BotSteve
13:22 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *om nom nom*
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13:32 wannabe1987 hi westmi
13:36 yNos just friended katemonster on fb..
13:36 Sythen ok
13:36 yNos see if she knows who i am..
13:38 Sythen http://i54.tinypic.com/2itn9yf.jpg
13:40 * yNos *YAWN*
13:43 wannabe1987 lol
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14:12 westmi hi wannabe1987
14:16 yNos ohman
14:16 yNos just looked at Chris' fb post from this morn.
14:16 yNos its gettin interesting
14:16 Sgt_Lemming mmm?
14:17 Sgt_Lemming got link?
14:17 yNos http://www.facebook.com/CaptainBoden/posts/2487493264204?notif_t=feed_comment_reply
14:17 yNos FEED THE TROLLS!!!
14:18 * angy feeds yNos
14:18 BotSteve angy: I have the following messages for you:
14:18 BotSteve At 13:22Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell angy that i'm happy he'll be here for halloween, does that mean no thanksgiving?
14:18 angy Whoops, wrong troll
14:18 * yNos gasps
14:18 yNos are you calling wannabe a troll?
14:19 angy no, you, that bot went wrong in the conversation
14:19 yNos ahhh
14:20 Sythen lol "Occupy Detroit"
14:20 Sythen funny as shit
14:20 yNos potty time.
14:20 yNos :D
14:20 yNos fyi
14:21 angy we /love/ your live
14:21 angy *life
14:21 Sythen o.O
14:28 yNos http://www.globalnerdy.com/2010/06/09/betty-white-jedi-master/
14:38 Nazca well that trip was fail
14:39 Nazca from what the guy at the sign place said, I'm unlikely to find a tar based nst these days
14:40 Nazca epoxy based, perhaps... but no tar based ones
14:44 Sgt_Lemming why is epoxy based an issue?
14:44 Sgt_Lemming you wanna repot it?
14:44 yNos what makes the tar bassed ones better?
14:44 Sgt_Lemming tar is easier to remove than epoxy
14:44 Sgt_Lemming as it doesn't set
14:45 yNos **based
14:47 yNos do you need to re-wind the coil?
14:47 Sgt_Lemming I gather that is what he is wanting to do
15:08 Nazca exactly... tar based ones you can depot and either repair or rewind
15:08 Nazca epoxy, on the other hand, is not easy to get rid of
15:08 Sgt_Lemming ebay times!
15:09 Nazca shipping will make the cost horrible :(
15:10 Sgt_Lemming indeed
15:10 Sgt_Lemming try and find someone local
15:10 Sgt_Lemming I got a really awesome server really REALLY cheap cause I went for one that was local pickup
15:12 angy yNos: prepare the beer for the 18th ;)
15:22 yNos back
15:22 yNos You are coming?
15:22 yNos Great!
15:23 angy I'm going to pack my parachute and trying to aim your house
15:23 yNos so how are you with terminating catV?
15:23 yNos :P
15:26 angy I'll try not to crash the roof in the landing
15:26 Av_Nekoroms :) batman allmost knows how to ride a bike
15:27 Av_Nekoroms dang that captaisblog really made me to miss my bike..
15:28 * Av_Nekoroms drove motocross for 8 years
15:36 Nazca ebay is a bust
15:37 Nazca there's a 6kv, 7kv and 8kv, all resin block though they do work
15:42 Nazca could/should I phase them to get a more respectable voltage out of them? is 6/7/8kv worth going to the effort of paying for?
15:43 Seroster HOLY FUCJ
15:43 Seroster Gossip is awesome
15:43 Sgt_Lemming ...?
15:43 Seroster Expecially when you get it first hand
15:50 Nazca wow
15:51 Nazca 15kv old GE NST
15:51 Nazca US cost, $45 .... US shipping to UK, $117.45
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15:52 Sgt_Lemming heh
15:55 Nazca http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12-Volt-5KV-Neon-Transformer-Mobile-Auto-Truck-12V-5000V-30mA-Lighter-Plug-/180735188855?pt=BI_Circuit_Breakers_Transformers&amp;hash=item2a14a81f77#ht_2842wt_1398 <-- that's probably a good option if you want to build a mobile coil
15:55 Nazca might have to apply a doubler to it though?
15:56 Sgt_Lemming yeah, you can get the little ones for the desktop neon lamps as well
16:00 Nazca I've got a transformer from a cold cathode tube, but I doubt it puts out much juice worth talking about
16:00 Sgt_Lemming heh
16:00 Sgt_Lemming nope
16:00 Sgt_Lemming 400vac at a few mA I think
16:01 Nazca sounds about right
16:02 Seroster Hehehe
16:02 tonsofpcs so what is all this I keep seeing on switches with "HDMI Stacking" -- is this a standard connection now or did the manufacturers just go "hey, this connector has the right number of pins and they sell cables with the necessary capacitance/impedence and we can markup cables 200%"?
16:04 Sgt_Lemming eh tonsofpcs?
16:07 Nazca presumably it's cheaper than 10G connections?
16:07 Sgt_Lemming 10guage?
16:07 Nazca gigabit
16:08 Sgt_Lemming seen the new standard for home theatre connections over RJ45/Cat5?
16:08 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: this is what is hilarious ;)
16:08 Sgt_Lemming well, it makes sense
16:08 Nazca dell are selling 1gigabit switches with hdmi stacking and micro sfp for optics or 10g connections
16:09 Sgt_Lemming link?
16:09 Sgt_Lemming oh, and you know that HDMI 1.4 has ethernet built in?
16:09 Nazca no idea, I've just handled them at work
16:09 Nazca really? lol
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16:10 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: dell, dlink, netgear, alcatel/lucent, etc.
16:10 tonsofpcs netgear GS724TS(P) has them
16:10 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hdmi#Version_comparison <--- check the second table there
16:11 Sgt_Lemming HDMI 1.4 added an Ethernet Channel, among other things
16:11 VTS-80 I'm guessing HDMI 2.0 will just switch to a different connector altogether.
16:12 tonsofpcs real differences between HDMI 1.0 and HDMI 1.4:  specifications that we actually use
16:12 VTS-80 True.
16:12 Sgt_Lemming .w HDbaseT
16:12 BotSteve "HDBaseT,[2]| supported by The HDBaseT Alliance, is a consumer electronic (CE) connectivity technology for long-distance transmission of uncompressed high-definition video, audio, 100BaseT Ethernet, high-power over cable and various controls, via a 100m Cat5e/Cat6 cable [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDBaseT
16:12 tonsofpcs sure, they doubled the allowable clock-rate once
16:13 Sgt_Lemming I think HDMI will die, as we are gradually moving away from it already
16:13 Cprossu what in the heck did I just miss?
16:13 Sgt_Lemming thunderbolt with display port on it for computers is an inspired move
16:13 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu a free lunch
16:13 tonsofpcs lol "Products embedded with HDBaseT technology are expected to ship in late 2010, early 2011."
16:14 Nazca Cprossu: still no streaming pc?
16:14 Cprossu Nazca: I am not onsite, so no.
16:15 Sgt_Lemming http://gizmodo.com/5844707/how-roger-ebert-found-his-voice-again <--- awesome talk by roger ebert about losing his voice
16:16 Nazca Cprossu: so people on site can't make with the workie?
16:16 Cprossu no they just don't have the time Nazca
16:16 Sgt_Lemming stream isn't really that high priority in the grand scheme of things
16:17 Cprossu though, if you want to pay for my airplane tickets, I'll have it up within an hour of being there ^_^
16:17 Sgt_Lemming same :-P
16:17 Sgt_Lemming with Cprossu's help o'course :-P
16:17 Nazca if I could afford airline tickets I'd be there myself :p
16:17 Sgt_Lemming +1
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16:18 Cprossu think you can take apart a AM2 zif socket and remove the thermal paste from inside of it? (iirc it's an AMP so at least it will come apart)
16:19 Sgt_Lemming yeah
16:19 Sgt_Lemming done it before
16:19 Cprossu no I mean Nazca
16:19 Sythen you can, but you dont need too
16:19 Sgt_Lemming lots of iso + syringe
16:19 Sgt_Lemming yes, you do, when some idiot smears it onto the socket with a spatula
16:19 Sgt_Lemming high frequency signals don't like things adding capacitance to their connections
16:19 Sythen you dont need to take the socket apart to remove it
16:20 Cprossu when that thermal compund happens to be thermally conductive yes you do
16:20 Cprossu *and electrically
16:20 Cprossu shit.
16:20 Sythen "sigh"
16:20 Cprossu typed faster than my brain.
16:20 Cprossu when that thermal compund happens to be electrically conductive yes you do
16:20 Cprossu ^ fixed.
16:20 Sythen with your method, yes, you do, i have a method that means you dont have too
16:20 Sgt_Lemming do tell
16:20 Cprossu powerwashing breaks everything.
16:20 Sythen zippo petrol
16:20 Sythen and 70% alcy
16:21 Cprossu and that just makes the plastic brittle 6 months afterwards
16:21 Sgt_Lemming right, because putting powerful industrial solvents on a motherboard is a good idea
16:21 Sythen ive not had an issue
16:21 * Sgt_Lemming rolls his eyes
16:21 * Cprossu rolls his eyes with Sgt_Lemming
16:21 Sythen if you havent tried it, dont knock it
16:21 Sgt_Lemming have tried it, regretted it afterwards
16:22 Sythen using zippo petrol and alcohol?
16:22 Sgt_Lemming mainly cause it destroyed all the smoothing caps around the cpu socket
16:22 Sgt_Lemming zippo petrol? as in napthalene?
16:22 Experimentonomen so my NDS arrived, but postal service wanned 35 euros before they would give it to me, so i told them i would not pay since i could see the "gift" box checked onn the package slip, which i also told them, so this package gets returned to sender, which is already informed.
16:22 Nazca Cprossu: can't say I've tried before, but possibly
16:23 Cprossu if it's an excuse to not do the work that needs to be done, it's not a good option usually.
16:23 Cprossu shortcuts sometimes work but when you have 940 pins and 940 contacts to look after it's better to just bite the bullet.
16:24 Sythen i have no isses doing the work
16:24 Sythen id enjoy it
16:24 Sythen but its a method that works
16:24 Cprossu so is spending the extra 20 minutes to take apart the cpu socket
16:25 Sythen yup
16:25 Sythen it does
16:25 Cprossu I can get one apart in 30 seconds though
16:26 Sythen nothing wrong with doing it your way, nothing wrong with doing it my way
16:26 VTS-80 Depends how you look at it.
16:26 Cprossu doing it your way has collateral damage for quite a few parts.
16:26 Sythen has possible
16:27 VTS-80 I don't trust flammable substances near my computer...
16:27 VTS-80 Or conductive fluids.
16:27 Cprossu I've broken parts in ways unimaginable, I'd rahter throw a motherboard through a dishwasher before using lighter fluid again =P
16:27 Sythen just like all reapirs on mainboards, all requires a level of practice and skill
16:29 VTS-80 Just like you should read a repair manual for a car before attempting to fix it.
16:29 Sythen yup, but i dont fix cards
16:29 Sythen cars*
16:29 VTS-80 I've done some minor repairs on my car, mostly belt related.
16:30 Cprossu I don't know, although repair manuals for cars rock, sometimes they are way misleading
16:30 Sythen i dont drive
16:30 Cprossu even factory manuals
16:30 * yNos is back
16:30 Sythen ellooo
16:30 yNos hows it going cprossu
16:30 yNos and Sythen
16:30 Cprossu it's not at all funny when you are tracing a wire in a diagram that doesn't exist in the real car
16:31 VTS-80 Or trying to undo a bolt in a ridiculously tight space.
16:31 Sgt_Lemming VTS-80 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQhfcdQf1QA <--- best belt change ever
16:31 Cprossu yNos trying to convince Sythen that zippo lighter fluid mixed with alchohol isn't a proper way to remove electrically conductive thermal compound from a motherboard's socket.
16:31 Sythen *sigh*
16:31 VTS-80 Sgt_Lemming I've seen that before, still awesome.
16:31 Sythen did i say anything about mixing them?
16:32 Cprossu I think you did
16:32 Sgt_Lemming even unmixed it's a bad idea
16:32 Sythen no
16:32 Sythen i didnt
16:32 Cprossu or perhaps Nazca did
16:32 Sgt_Lemming either way, it's a BAD idea
16:32 Sythen of course you dont mix the 2
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16:32 Cprossu [09:21] <Sythen> zippo petrol
16:32 Cprossu [09:21] <Sythen> and 70% alcy
16:32 Sythen thats fuckin insane
16:32 Sythen did i say the word "mix" anywhere in that at all?>
16:33 mashpriborintorg hello
16:33 VTS-80 It was implied.
16:33 Sythen no
16:33 Sythen it wasnt
16:33 Cprossu well what did you mean to say then?
16:33 Cprossu because you sure as hell didn't convey it
16:33 Sythen i said what i said
16:33 angy coding time!
16:34 Cprossu yay angy, how goes the site?
16:34 angy way better than previously
16:34 Nazca I said nothing of mixing them ... I'm not putting anything flamable near any motherboard I value :p
16:34 angy you're going to see a new project in gitweb, I bet you'll find what it is :)
16:35 Nazca except possibly a little iso electrical cleaning fluid for the purpose of removing thermal paste residue from a pga or bga chip
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16:36 Sgt_Lemming Isopropyl is all I generally use for cleaning electronics
16:36 Sgt_Lemming I have submerged whole machines in it before to remove grease and things
16:36 Sgt_Lemming working on a pc that was in a mechanics workshop ==  ugh
16:37 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: I feel your pain
16:37 yNos I am not a fan of using anything that can possibly eat the finish off a board.
16:37 Cprossu though the worst is getting one from a chain smokers house.
16:37 * Nazca goes to hunt out the old geek group nst videos
16:37 Nazca Cprossu: omg yes
16:37 Sgt_Lemming Iso is pretty gentle yNos
16:37 Cprossu I've had good luck too with iso
16:37 Sgt_Lemming afaik most mobos are washed with it after manufacturing
16:38 Nazca even touching machines from the house of a smoke makes me feel yuck
16:38 Cprossu denatured on the other hand
16:38 yNos i think i have some spray flux cleaner...
16:38 yNos i wonder how well that'd work?
16:38 Cprossu OOOh
16:38 Cprossu that's not a bad idea at all
16:38 Sgt_Lemming Nazca, mate of mine used to smoke a lot of pot right next to his computer, wondered why his cooling fans were always dying
16:38 Cprossu bring some freeze spray as well
16:39 yNos freeze spray?
16:39 Cprossu yeah.
16:39 yNos you mean an upside down can of air?
16:39 Cprossu we might have some at the lab if you are lucky
16:39 Cprossu no they make cans of it
16:39 yNos hmm
16:39 Cprossu that spray upright
16:39 yNos i remember Cory playing with a can...
16:39 Cprossu they are killer things to have too
16:39 Cprossu especially when debugging but
16:39 VTS-80 I think those are normal air cans with the pickup tube at the bottom of the can.
16:39 Cprossu I think it'll help us out
16:39 yNos making ice in the high voltage lab
16:40 Cprossu they have way more compound too VTS-80
16:40 VTS-80 Oh, okay.
16:40 Cprossu they weigh like 4x as much as a normal can o' air
16:41 SparkyProjects I think they are CO2, just like a fire extinguisher
16:41 VTS-80 I'm guessing it's more dense than normal canned air then.
16:42 Cprossu actually it's not CO2
16:42 Cprossu I'm trying to temember what it was
16:42 Cprossu I think refrigerant, or something chemically similar
16:43 Cprossu tetraflouroethane
16:43 Cprossu (1,1,1,2)
16:43 Cprossu aka R134a
16:45 Cprossu yNos rofl.
16:45 Cprossu http://www.crcindustries.com/faxdocs/msds/14086.pdf
16:47 yNos i need to find some microwave oven diodes
16:48 Nazca so yea... cross phasing different voltage NSTs to get decent sparks is a bad idea if I'm following the old video right?
16:48 * Sgt_Lemming nods
16:48 Sgt_Lemming you wanna do it with identical or near identical transformers
16:49 Sgt_Lemming i.e. same voltage/current at least
16:49 Sgt_Lemming if not 100% identical
16:49 Nazca how about sticking a CW doubler on the HV side of one?
16:49 Sgt_Lemming should be fine
16:49 Sgt_Lemming anyways, back in a while
16:49 Sgt_Lemming doing some work on my pc.
16:49 Nazca the best I'm going to get of an NST seems to be the 8kv one :(
16:49 Cprossu http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/zip/2605105093.html http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/zip/2589546520.html http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/zip/2581485370.html @ yNos
16:54 yNos nice
16:54 yNos thanks Cprossu
16:54 yNos i was thinking of going to servall and seeing if they had some.
16:55 yNos i want to make a big CW bridge
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17:05 Cprossu hrmmm
17:06 yNos can i go home yet?
17:06 angy damn mysql lock system!
17:06 tgg|ajprog yNos, you stopping by the lab today?
17:06 Cprossu lol you're at the lab?
17:06 * yNos needs a vacation
17:06 angy no yNos! you can't!
17:06 angy you have to wait for me to go have a beer
17:06 yNos i am not at the lab...
17:07 angy hope you have your camping gears with you
17:07 Cprossu ahhh ok. lol
17:07 yNos i dont know that i will be there today
17:07 yNos i have a lodge meeting tonight, so i doubt i will be there.
17:07 Cprossu tgg|ajprog do you feel like trying something silly?
17:08 tgg|ajprog I was hoping to ride the motorcyle again :) before cools off again
17:08 tgg|ajprog Cprossu, depends what it is
17:08 * angy punch his mysql locks in the eye
17:08 tgg|ajprog yNos, chris is asking for the access points again
17:08 Cprossu tgg|ajprog you know that can of freeze spray we have? get it and the CPU from the stream pc and we'll do a little experiment. put it 'dead bug style' up and see if you can 'blast' the thermal compound out of it
17:09 Cprossu I haden't deven thought of that until yNos mentioned he had a can of flux for some reason
17:09 tgg|ajprog I will see if I can find where steve put it
17:09 Cprossu ok cool.
17:10 yNos tgg|ajprog: i know, tell him that i have put the paperwork in and we are waiting on that to go through.
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17:10 tgg|ajprog yNos, thoughts? http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/2639820029.html
17:11 yNos holyshit
17:11 yNos looks like the gas has been leaking out of it since the 70s
17:12 yNos ok... early 80s
17:12 Cprossu lol there seems to be quite a few around
17:12 Cprossu http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/2636490453.html
17:13 yNos they wer ok around town bikes, they didnt have much power for cruising the highways.
17:14 yNos i think that looks like a better deal..
17:14 yNos needs the carb cleaned.
17:14 yNos maybe be re-jetted
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17:24 CaptainNiobe hey all
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17:27 yNos hiya
17:27 angy P'ky!
17:27 * Ponko is back
17:27 angy My lovely brit :)
17:27 Ponko :P hey all
17:28 yNos gdamn, i get to har my co-wokers talk about thte viability of this golf-gadget vs that ones.
17:28 yNos its all placebo
17:28 * yNos doesnt giveAshit about golf.
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17:37 tgg|ajprog http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/2640356049.html
17:40 * Experimentonomen decides to goto bed since hes been having a headache and felt like shit most of the day
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17:42 LemPhone sigh... now to wait for the windows install to complete
17:42 LemPhone this is going to take a little while
17:45 LemPhone thinking about dual booting to windows 8 as well
17:47 tgg|ajprog yNos, http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/2642168415.html -- batman likes this one
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18:09 Toast-Away Bye angy-away
18:11 angy-away Toasty!
18:11 Toastdude :D
18:11 * Toastdude hugs angy
18:11 * angy-away hugs Toastdude
18:11 * Toastdude hugs angy-away
18:11 Toastdude :P
18:12 Toastdude Y U Leave?
18:13 Cprossu yNos sounds like _fun_
18:13 Toastdude Y U NO STAY?
18:13 Toastdude angy-away ^
18:13 angy-away eating time :)
18:13 Toastdude Ah
18:14 angy-away but I'm here for a little while though, there is still one of us en route
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18:15 Cprossu wow yNos, http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/2632681418.html
18:15 Cprossu looks clean for the age
18:15 Toastdude Hi egrsteve
18:15 angy-nearly-away Hi Steve
18:15 Cprossu hey egrsteve
18:15 egrsteve hello
18:16 ajprog_laptop hi egrsteve
18:16 Cprossu gonna be making a stop in the lab today?
18:16 egrsteve maybe in the evenign
18:17 Cprossu you feel like taking a can of freeze spray for a little experiment?
18:18 egrsteve sorry, I don't have can
18:18 egrsteve a can, but I have been working on finding a heatsink for the new motherboard
18:19 egrsteve I have one and have it clean, I just need to make sure it will fit and install it
18:19 LemPhone socket 939 heatsink?
18:19 LemPhone I have a bunch of them around, but won't be there all that quick
18:20 egrsteve not sure which one off hand
18:23 LemPhone is it intel or amd?
18:24 yNos tgg|ajprog: the big red is a blast - goes everywhere.. i dont know that they are street legal though.
18:26 egrsteve I would have to check what socket/cpu it is, I know it's there waiting for me but I have not had time to work on it
18:26 LemPhone yNos, you heading into the lab today?
18:27 yNos nope
18:27 LemPhone bugger
18:27 LemPhone if someone can snap me a pic of the socket, I can provide a suitable heatsink.
18:29 tgg|ajprog it is an A8N SLI motherboard I believe
18:29 LemPhone ok, I have plenty of heatsinks to fit that
18:30 LemPhone will see if I can dig out a nice quiet one
18:30 LemPhone cause most of them are howlers
18:32 LemPhone it'll probably take a few days to a week to get there though
18:32 yNos Durian: it's whats for dinner!
18:33 LemPhone lol
18:33 LemPhone evil shit
18:33 egrsteve ok, I'll still see of we have something to get it running for now
18:33 LemPhone kk
18:33 mashpriborintorg om mom mom durian
18:33 egrsteve I think people are missing the stream
18:34 mashpriborintorg how did you guess :'(
18:34 LemPhone heh
18:36 egrsteve *dr Farsworth voice* Good News everyone!
18:36 egrsteve netflix is not splitting of DVDs
18:36 LemPhone lol
18:38 yNos wtf: http://wyoming.wzzm13.com/news/news/62657-woman-beaten-set-fire
18:46 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2oymHHyV1M
18:46 yNos ouch
18:48 tgg|ajprog yNos, how about this one? http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/mcd/2641815938.html
18:49 Toastdude yNos: Tell me what you think, please  http://i52.tinypic.com/f9glza.png
18:50 yNos tjats all minor scuffs and stuff, you could fix that easy like
18:50 yNos that is a hellufa deal
18:50 yNos Toastdude: looking now.
18:50 yNos cool logo
18:50 yNos i hate the term hacker though.
18:51 yNos personnaly...
18:51 LemPhone why?
18:51 Toastdude Yeah, but you like it?
18:51 yNos mainly because it's ben slammed and mashed with the term cracker.
18:51 yNos yeah, looks good
18:51 Toastdude Cool, thanks
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18:52 Toastdude Hi Nate_
18:52 Nate_ whats up
18:53 Toastdude Not much, you?
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18:56 egrsteve_ hmm, I hate connecting from school, have to use web interface due to port blocking
18:56 LemPhone lol
18:56 egrsteve_ but guess what port 80 is open :)
18:56 angy-play all free node ports are locked?
18:57 egrsteve I have not checked all, but I will assume so
18:57 egrsteve school opens ports not closses them
18:57 egrsteve at least that seems to be the configuration
18:58 egrsteve so no x-chat from schoo
18:58 egrsteve l
18:59 LemPhone bugga
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19:01 egrsteve_ that didn't take long
19:01 angy-play you seems to like timeout as well on that connexion
19:02 egrsteve_ ya, right now I'm in a spot with marginal Wi-fi which doesn't help
19:03 angy-play that reminds me of school...
19:03 angy-play :)
19:05 angy-play but they did not locked protocol 47, so I always had a VPN up there
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19:13 egrsteve hello
19:13 Toastdude Wb
19:14 egrsteve thanksks
19:14 Toastdude Lol
19:14 angy-play you see, all is better with a VPN :)
19:14 egrsteve_ SSH :)
19:14 NeWtoz or a remote server with irc in scren
19:14 NeWtoz screen
19:14 yNos tmux ftw
19:14 angy-play last hop is pptp though steve
19:16 angy-play tmux/irssi, best combination
19:16 egrsteve so I will see how well this works for me
19:17 angy-play either better or continue the same
19:17 angy-play hopefully
19:17 egrsteve hopefully better
19:17 tonsofpcs egrsteve: ssh work?
19:17 angy-play or you'll trigger the security and lockdown internet and will have to be bored
19:18 egrsteve I am sshed to a remoter terminal running irssi
19:18 egrsteve so yes it works
19:18 tonsofpcs yea :)
19:18 egrsteve and this is worth at least +1 geek cred on IRC
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19:18 angy-play depend, do you usually use irssi?
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19:22 egrsteve I ussualy run x-chat
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19:23 * tonsofpcs runs irssi-in-screen and ssh's to it
19:23 NastyNate do you guys do stuff with motorcycles at leonard st.
19:23 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
19:23 tonsofpcs NastyNate: sure, why not?
19:23 tonsofpcs it's just a car with no frame and some wheels missing :-p
19:23 lwq1996 hello peoplw
19:23 NastyNate LOL true
19:24 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
19:24 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 5.67 hours ago at 2011-10-10 13:43:58 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:24:09 UTC
19:24 NastyNate I love anything with a motor and wheels
19:24 tonsofpcs goin home, cya in a bit
19:25 lwq1996 ok tonsofpcs
19:25 lwq1996 so nasty nate you are saying you would like a unicycle with a chainsaw engin on it
19:26 * angy-play is scrubing a 2.7To zfs volume...
19:26 lwq1996 lol
19:28 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: You spake?
19:28 lwq1996 O.o
19:31 SparkyProjects Thus Spake  Zarathustra
19:32 masterofmonks Go forth to the people and teach them not to pollute the river?
19:35 lwq1996 o.O
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19:35 Toastdude Lol
19:35 angy-play Kate!
19:35 Toastdude Hi
19:35 lwq1996 its kate :D
19:36 Toastdude Hi SKate! :P
19:36 Skatemonster helloooo all
19:36 lwq1996 toast shut up >:0
19:36 lwq1996 jk
19:36 egrsteve Hi skatemoster
19:36 Skatemonster hi
19:36 lwq1996 wow people are just poping up at 3:30
19:36 Skatemonster i must look like i'm stoned out of my fuckin' mind right now.
19:36 lwq1996 why?
19:37 Skatemonster >:(
19:37 Skatemonster no sleep
19:37 lwq1996 ah
19:37 Skatemonster just been one of those weekends.
19:37 lwq1996 ik how you feel
19:37 lwq1996 did you pull all nighters or do you have a sleeping condition
19:38 Skatemonster i have some kind of condition...
19:38 lwq1996 ah
19:39 Skatemonster went to bed at 2300, didn't fall asleep at all.  got up at 0330 to do homework
19:39 yNos time to head out
19:39 yNos later all
19:39 Skatemonster bye
19:39 lwq1996 later ynos
19:39 lwq1996 have fun
19:39 lwq1996 but not to much
19:39 egrsteve see ya yNos
19:40 Toastdude Bye yNos
19:40 yNos oh Skatemonster
19:40 Toastdude Tell Chris I said hi :P
19:40 yNos i am the yutz who friended you on fb today
19:40 angy-play bye yNos
19:40 Skatemonster ...?
19:40 yNos will do
19:40 Skatemonster LOL okay
19:40 yNos alrite, later all
19:40 lwq1996 be safe
19:40 angy-play I'll have to go see Facebook, after the scrub of the zpool...
19:46 angy-play so, I know now that I won't ever again scrub my spool when it is shared with iscsi ><
19:46 lwq1996 lol
19:51 egrsteve so whats new in the world?
19:51 angy-play it was raining a little at noon
19:52 lwq1996 puppies
19:52 lwq1996 thats whats new
19:52 egrsteve puppies?
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19:52 lwq1996 idk....im bored
19:52 Toastdude RED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
19:52 lwq1996 RED
19:53 egrsteve hello tggred
19:53 lwq1996 shut up toast she dont like you >:0
19:53 Skatemonster wha...?
19:53 lwq1996 jk
19:53 Toastdude ...
19:53 * Skatemonster can't see straight
19:53 lwq1996 look reds here
19:53 Toastdude Thanks Lee...
19:53 lwq1996 im kidding
19:53 tggRED Hey internet. :)
19:53 * lwq1996 gives toast a lollypop
19:53 Toastdude Lol
19:53 lwq1996 whats new red
19:53 * Toastdude takes lollypop
19:54 tggRED not much, just got out of work...getting ready to get some work done at the lab. What's new with you?
19:54 * Skatemonster pokes red
19:54 lwq1996 about do desolder some parts
19:55 egrsteve not much, class at 4:30
19:55 angy-play that's in the past!
19:55 egrsteve (edt)
19:55 lwq1996 lol
19:56 * angy-play give a triac to Steve
19:56 Skatemonster query tggRED
19:56 Skatemonster dammit
19:56 tggRED hmm?
19:56 Toastdude Lol
19:57 lwq1996 lol
19:57 lwq1996 its /query kate
19:57 Skatemonster i'm aware of that thank you lee
19:57 Skatemonster i'm REALLY FUCKING TIRED.
19:57 lwq1996 just tryig to help :)
19:58 * angy-play puts a blanket and a pillow close to Skatemonster
19:58 Skatemonster can't sleep.  math test shortly.
19:58 Skatemonster >:(
19:58 * angy-play tries to teleport
19:58 lwq1996 topgear ftw
19:59 angy-play did not work
19:59 Toastdude :D
19:59 angy-play can't pass it for ya
19:59 lwq1996 yeah because kate looks like a man
19:59 Skatemonster ...
19:59 angy-play I'll shave, for once
19:59 lwq1996 woulnt her instructor be suspicious
20:00 angy-play I'll blind him/her before
20:00 lwq1996 lol
20:00 angy-play I'm very good with punching eyes
20:00 Skatemonster it's in the math tutoring center.  they require picture ID before entering the testing area
20:00 tggRED ...
20:00 tonsofpcs hi
20:01 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: I did
20:01 lwq1996 lol
20:01 angy-play so, many peoples to blind
20:01 lwq1996 even the computer?
20:01 Sythen evening all
20:01 lwq1996 morning sythen
20:01 Sythen ello lee
20:01 angy-play a tea?
20:01 lwq1996 lol
20:01 angy-play a gin?
20:01 lwq1996 probally
20:01 angy-play a P'ky?
20:01 Sythen nope
20:01 angy-play whoops
20:01 lwq1996 all three?
20:02 Sythen nah
20:02 Sythen not right now
20:02 lwq1996 ok
20:02 angy-play he'll have all three eventually
20:02 lwq1996 want to be sober?
20:02 Sythen i dont drink all that much lol
20:02 lwq1996 a women?
20:02 Sythen o.O
20:03 lwq1996 yeah hes gona have that later :)
20:03 Sythen im just doing some tech work right now, so i havent had a chance to make a drink
20:03 Sythen LOL, no woman in her right mind would touch me lol
20:03 tggRED I refuse to comment on this conversation, lol.
20:03 angy-play so, you'll have to engineer a custom drink
20:03 lwq1996 lol
20:03 lwq1996 you just commented red
20:03 Sythen a wise idea tggRED
20:04 lwq1996 atleast druidic isnt here
20:04 lwq1996 .seen druidic_rifleman
20:04 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw druidic_rifleman 411.20 hours ago at 2011-09-23 16:52:09 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 20:04:18 UTC
20:04 lwq1996 holly shit
20:04 Toastdude Lol
20:04 Toastdude Well...
20:04 Sythen http://i.imgur.com/FXpSH.jpg
20:04 Toastdude .seen REDhome
20:04 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw redhome 2319.65 hours ago at 2011-07-06 04:25:45 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 20:04:42 UTC
20:04 lwq1996 lol
20:04 Toastdude New record...
20:04 Toastdude Lol
20:05 lwq1996 big hard drive
20:05 Sythen hooge hard drive
20:06 lwq1996 how much memory?
20:06 Sythen no idea
20:06 Sythen maybe a few mb at most
20:06 lwq1996 doesnt say?
20:06 lwq1996 lol
20:06 Sythen its an image
20:07 lwq1996 oh i thought that was from your hard drive collection
20:07 Sythen nope
20:07 Sythen just got posted on my regular irc network
20:07 Sythen so i thought id share the fun
20:07 lwq1996 ah
20:07 lwq1996 cool
20:08 lwq1996 hey kate cant you take your test later
20:08 tonsofpcs [5~/sb end
20:11 Sythen right, my new machine is priced up
20:16 angy-play time to go!
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20:17 injektion I found out today I need to take a hepatitis b test
20:17 Sythen why?/
20:17 egrsteve hmm, classs in 10 min
20:18 injektion My BF had it at one point
20:18 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell pperrilles I went to Michael's until 5:30
20:18 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when pperrilles is around.
20:19 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
20:19 BotSteve Happy to help, Toastdude
20:20 Sythen ugh, i wanna go to bed
20:21 Toast-Away Bbl
20:21 astro73 hello geeks
20:22 astro73 i am on a couch with a geek on my left and a geek-in-denial on my right
20:22 Sythen im a nerd
20:22 astro73 i'm a dork
20:23 injektion I'm just me
20:23 astro73 BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 that jacque says hi
20:23 BotSteve astro73: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
20:24 egrsteve I'm steve
20:25 astro73 hi steve!
20:25 * tggRED is gonna get back to work. Bye internet!@
20:25 astro73 hi red!
20:25 astro73 bye red!
20:25 * tggRED hugs Skatemonster and hopes to talk to her again soon. <3
20:33 Skatemonster :(
20:33 egrsteve well that was fun I lost my connection and had to reconnect
20:35 egrsteve so here I am
20:36 egrsteve so now it's class time
20:36 egrsteve and a very slow internet at the moment
20:44 tonsofpcs hmm.... should I set up an image flip or an image replace ("Please ask for network access") for a squid?
20:45 tonsofpcs egrsteve: are you not using screen?
20:47 astro73 tonsofpcs: using screen wouldn't matter so much, since his internet would still be slow
20:47 tonsofpcs astro73: it would prevent the need to reestablish an irc connection
20:48 yNos|away YAY
20:49 tonsofpcs \o/
20:49 yNos just saw soem deer on the ride home
20:49 yNos bigones
20:49 tonsofpcs yNos: what do you think? image flip or image replace for a transparent proxy for new guests on my network? (ones i haven't put into a rate shaping group yet, so they're in the default 33.6/burst to 1M)
20:49 yNos we both stopped in the street to stare at eachother
20:50 tonsofpcs heh
20:50 yNos image flip or replace?
20:51 yNos what do you mean by that?
20:51 tonsofpcs http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html or replace all images with one of my choosing
20:52 egrsteve well that was fun, 20 min to restore newtwork connection
20:52 tonsofpcs egrsteve: sounds like your ISP is thte same as mine!
20:53 egrsteve my ISP is currently a universuty
20:54 egrsteve unfortunatly there login script/firewall will cause a timeout before it finnishes authenticating
20:54 yNos tonsofpcs: i just have dhcp dole out a broken default route. then vpn into my router, then out to the internet.
20:54 yNos when i had the problem of people stealing internet.
20:55 egrsteve fuzzy net is fun too
20:55 yNos my firewall wouldnt route out if you were on the 192.168.128.X/28 network.
20:55 tonsofpcs yNos: i don't have stealers, I have house guests.  I give out the passcode (enter it myself) but I want to make it clear to them that they are guests and should be asking before using it
20:55 egrsteve or invert all the colors
20:56 egrsteve of images
20:56 tonsofpcs i'm contemplating random lolcat images
20:56 egrsteve that could be fun
20:57 yNos or random gaypron if they have been on it for too long.
20:57 injektion Why gay porn? I take umbrage to that comment
20:58 tonsofpcs i mean, i already toss them into the 33.6k / 1M burst rate shaping group
20:58 tonsofpcs (that started when someone decided he was going to leave his laptop here running torrents while we went out for dinner
20:59 egrsteve 14.4k is more fun welcome to 1995
20:59 yNos injektion: could be any type of pron
21:00 egrsteve the longer they surf the more blurred images get until they are just colored blobs
21:01 tonsofpcs egrsteve: not sure if i can do that.... the transparent proxy is sseparate from the router, not sure exactly how i can track those connections
21:01 egrsteve the proxy will see when they start forwarding and start a timer
21:02 egrsteve or is the source data stripped at the router
21:03 tonsofpcs i'm not sure
21:04 egrsteve or base it on bandwidth passed through the proxy
21:04 tonsofpcs make the blur value = (time/15min) + 2 ?
21:04 egrsteve something like that
21:04 tonsofpcs i guess i need to install squid to figure out if i can do that
21:04 injektion lol http://goput.it/ipn.png
21:05 injektion iOS issue
21:05 yNos tonsofpcs: maybe change all their fonts to comic sans?
21:05 tonsofpcs yNos: that's just evil
21:05 lwq1996 im bored
21:05 lwq1996 oh hia ynos
21:06 yNos lwq1996: change all your fonts to comic sans
21:06 lwq1996 why
21:06 yNos it makes you look smarter on teh intertubes
21:06 lwq1996 lol
21:06 tonsofpcs lol
21:06 tonsofpcs yNos: should we be using MS Comic Chat too?
21:06 yNos YES!
21:06 yNos or terminal
21:06 yNos OO
21:06 yNos change it to wingdings...
21:07 * lwq1996 steps back from ynos becuase it seems that he has gone mad
21:09 tonsofpcs muahahaha
21:10 lwq1996 oh no ynos is rubing of on tonsofpcs
21:10 egrsteve random genrator powered font substitution
21:11 egrsteve each elemnt loads with a new font
21:11 lwq1996 um can anyone tell me if this is ronsin core  http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_141786_-1
21:11 injektion Why don't you find a way to inject meatspin in every other page
21:12 tonsofpcs egrsteve: seems like that'd be hard, need to figure out externalcss/embeddedcss/notcss/etc.
21:13 egrsteve I feel like I am on a 14.4k, burst = disconnection
21:13 egrsteve or each pageload a new font
21:13 lwq1996 oh yeah ynos that radioshake that i thought had electrical parts...didnt...seems like i need to order of the internet now
21:14 egrsteve it's cheaper to buy off the internet anyway
21:14 lwq1996 yeah
21:14 egrsteve just takes more time, but the selection is tons better
21:14 injektion Or if you have a Frys Electronics close by
21:15 lwq1996 how do i tell if a spoll of solder is ronsin core
21:15 egrsteve it might be called RMA
21:15 egrsteve (rosin midly acivated) which is what you want
21:15 lwq1996 ROHS....is that ronsincore
21:16 injektion ROHS is lead free
21:16 lwq1996 oh
21:16 egrsteve ROHS is reduction of hazzardious substances
21:16 lwq1996 ah
21:16 egrsteve aka lead free
21:16 injektion Lead free solder sucks so much when it gets older
21:16 lwq1996 where is a good place to buy leaded solder with a ronsin core
21:16 lwq1996 ik...takes so long to melt too
21:17 injektion I've had to resolver a synthesizer once not fun took 2 long days to complete
21:17 yNos ok, time to make dinner
21:17 egrsteve lwq1996 have you browsed sparkfun.com yet?
21:17 yNos later al
21:17 lwq1996 no not yet
21:18 lwq1996 im looking on jameco right now
21:18 egrsteve take a look at that site, they are a bit more expensive than the Big distributers but they sell kits and parts targeted at hobbiests
21:19 lwq1996 ok
21:19 egrsteve jameco will have it but expect to buy 1lb of it
21:20 lwq1996 thats what i was looking to buy actually
21:20 lwq1996 but i coulnt find any tht said it had ronsin core
21:20 egrsteve let me take a look for you
21:21 lwq1996 i like to buy in big rolls so ik i dont run out when doing a project....and so i dont have to keep buying tubes of solder
21:21 egrsteve if I don't loose my connection
21:21 lwq1996 lol
21:24 * egrsteve waits for computer to catch up
21:24 lwq1996 lol...what type of computer do you have
21:25 SparkyProjects Have you tried http://www.alliedelec.com ?
21:25 SparkyProjects They are part of 'RS components' in the UK, a little more expensive, but bigger range
21:25 lwq1996 .c 100g to pounds
21:25 BotSteve 0.220462262 pounds
21:25 masterofmonks lwq1996: what are you looking for?
21:26 lwq1996 leaded ronsin core solder....in 1pound rolls if possible
21:26 masterofmonks You want lead solder?
21:26 lwq1996 yes
21:27 lwq1996 doesnt take as long to get molten
21:27 masterofmonks http://www.amazon.com/Kester-Rosin-Core-Solder-Spool/dp/B00068IJQI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1318282028&amp;sr=8-3
21:28 masterofmonks That is about the cheapest you are going to find a pound because of the tin in it.
21:28 lwq1996 ok
21:29 lwq1996 thats a good prise
21:29 egrsteve jameco has it but it's .031 so a medium diameter
21:29 lwq1996 price
21:29 egrsteve 33.95 for kester
21:29 egrsteve http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_32117_-1
21:31 SparkyProjects heh, came across the same stuff from Allied, if you really buy in bulk, then it could be as low as $30.23 http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=8335100#tab=Specs
21:32 masterofmonks http://www.amazon.com/Super-Solder-Wire-1-0mm-Diameter/dp/B0002KRAB0/ref=sr_1_26?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1318282230&amp;sr=8-26
21:32 egrsteve jameco brand for 30
21:32 egrsteve http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_141786_-1
21:32 masterofmonks "Super Solder brand for $22.5
21:34 masterofmonks lwq1996: What the hell kind of project are you doing that you need a pound of solder?
21:34 tonsofpcs kester
21:35 lwq1996 i just want a big roll so i dont have to get any for a long time
21:35 lwq1996 shiping cost money
21:35 masterofmonks You don't have a radio shack there?
21:36 lwq1996 not one that sells hobby stuff
21:36 masterofmonks They should at least sell solder.
21:36 lwq1996 it just sells electronics
21:36 masterofmonks Or allow you to order solder with no shipping.
21:36 lwq1996 ah
21:36 lwq1996 hmmm
21:36 masterofmonks Call them up and ask.
21:37 * lwq1996 goes to radioshake.com
21:37 masterofmonks You would have to do it through the store though.
21:37 lwq1996 hmmmm...i dont go there till next week end
21:38 masterofmonks Like I said, just call them up and ask if they can order solder for you.
21:38 lwq1996 ok
21:38 masterofmonks Also if there is an electrical supply store or even a hardware store you should be able to get solder at either of those.
21:38 lwq1996 i will do that
21:39 lwq1996 i live in BFE and only have one hardware store and it only sells the tubes of solder
21:39 masterofmonks The Radioshack solder that I have is.. fair to middling.
21:41 tonsofpcs looks like squid can do source tracking
21:42 egrsteve if you buy it from a hardware store make sure it's rosin core and not acid flux
21:42 tonsofpcs the radio shack solder i have is.... 12 years old
21:42 tonsofpcs the kester solder I have is... 40-50 years old
21:42 egrsteve mine is about that same age
21:43 lwq1996 ik acid flux distroys electonics
21:43 egrsteve yes it does
21:43 tonsofpcs so looks like I'll have to pass %SRC to the perl script that does the blur and have it do the time tracking
21:46 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: did you get my tube amp notes?
21:53 * lwq1996 slaps his computer
21:54 lwq1996 thanks guys....so many site...limited ram and prosesing caused my computer to crash
21:54 astro73 does that work? maybe i should try it
21:55 lwq1996 i should probally get a better computer
21:56 tonsofpcs *dwnloads webmin*
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22:06 ChopSuey You must all dance for me while I recite the names of vegetables.
22:07 ChopSuey Carrot, celery, potato, beet, lettuce.....
22:08 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: Yes, sort of, I just glanced at it.
22:09 * lwq1996 starts singing system of a down
22:10 lwq1996 chopsuey is an awesome song
22:10 lwq1996 so chop suey are you new
22:10 ChopSuey No.  I've been on this planet for ages.
22:11 ChopSuey I am new to the channel, if that's what you meant.
22:11 lwq1996 i mean new to tgg irc
22:11 lwq1996 yes
22:11 ChopSuey Also new to this net.
22:11 lwq1996 network?
22:11 lwq1996 GAH MY COMPUTER SUCKS...
22:11 ChopSuey net = network
22:12 * lwq1996 slaps his computer
22:12 lwq1996 ah
22:12 ChopSuey Does it?  Hit it with a hamner.
22:12 ChopSuey hammer
22:12 lwq1996 cant...only one that is good enough for internet use
22:13 lwq1996 though you may see me pop up in another name
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22:15 lwq1996 hia threebuddies
22:15 lwq1996 .c 1pound to oz
22:15 BotSteve 16 ounces
22:15 lwq1996 ok i need to get a 16 ounce spoll
22:15 ChopSuey "We should go metric every INCH of the way/"
22:15 masterofmonks hey lwq1996 http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?InvtId=PA-BK03-PB
22:16 lwq1996 lol
22:16 * lwq1996 waits for his computer to respond to the link
22:17 threebuddies HI lwq1996
22:17 lwq1996 anyone that wants to donate a decent computer to me...feel free to do so
22:17 lwq1996 sweet
22:17 lwq1996 i like that keypad
22:18 lwq1996 i want to get the pro mini keyboard with track pad
22:19 Seroster Hoooooly crap!
22:19 lwq1996 what seroster
22:19 Seroster There are some GM100 triodes for sale here
22:19 Seroster http://www.decware.com/newsite/images/GM100.jpg
22:19 injektion This item costs $8.64 (Plus Shipping) at Amazon Marketplace
22:20 injektion http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B0044ZM3UM/
22:20 masterofmonks http://www.chinabuye.com/wireless-mini-pc-keyboard-and-touchpad
22:20 Seroster Hey, let's pay extra for something that should have ben in the fucking phone to begin with! YAY!
22:20 masterofmonks Seroster: Not for a phone.
22:20 lwq1996 lol
22:21 Seroster "smart Phone/android3.0 or"
22:21 Seroster Let's widen it to "device"
22:21 Seroster Hey, let's pay extra for something that should have ben in the fucking device to begin with! YAY!
22:21 Seroster Happy now?
22:21 lwq1996 lol
22:22 ChopSuey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17DPJHNVx2Q&amp;feature=related
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22:24 * lwq1996 cant click anymore links or his computer is going to explode
22:24 threebuddies It was still worth it.
22:25 lwq1996 lol
22:25 lwq1996 wow i can get 1lb. of ronsin core solder for 13.00
22:26 ChopSuey I want my next computer to float in my left eyeball, beaming images onto my retina with a laser, and have Bluetooth communication with my brain.  I don't know if my brain can learn Bluetooth, but I'm willing to try.
22:26 ChopSuey "rosin"
22:26 masterofmonks lwq1996: from where?
22:27 lwq1996 radioshack :3
22:27 lwq1996 its a big diamater tho
22:27 masterofmonks So they will order if for you.
22:27 lwq1996 its online
22:27 ChopSuey Yes,  Solder together a lot of 555s.  Such a device could take over the planet.
22:28 lwq1996 i didnt call them yet
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22:29 lwq1996 well that settles where to get solder
22:31 ChopSuey not RadioShack   :)
22:32 Seroster Nite folks
22:33 Toast-Away .seen pperrilles
22:33 BotSteve Toast-Away: I last saw pperrilles 167.78 hours ago at 2011-10-03 22:46:25 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 22:33:16 UTC
22:33 Toast-Away Ok, didn't miss him
22:33 lwq1996 toast you still away?
22:33 lwq1996 nvm
22:33 Toastdude Lol
22:33 lwq1996 everytime i say that to someone that happends
22:35 ChopSuey You must all dance for me while I recite the names of vegetables.
22:36 * lwq1996 slaps chopsuey
22:36 lwq1996 DANCE FOR US BITCH
22:36 ChopSuey Birdie num nums.
22:37 lwq1996 O.o ?
22:37 ChopSuey A 4 bit processor is the ultimate in RISC technology.
22:37 lwq1996 chop suey how old are you
22:38 ChopSuey 5 billion
22:38 lwq1996 no really
22:38 ChopSuey I do not answer such personal questions, until/unless I get to know you.
22:38 ChopSuey Have a banana.
22:39 lwq1996 ok my names lee...im 14...im fat...im into electronics...and i hate you
22:39 lwq1996 do you have a facebook
22:39 ChopSuey Are you?  CMOS, TTL, or simply blinking leds with a 3909?   :)
22:40 ChopSuey Yes, I am on Facebook.  I also do not reveal it.
22:40 lwq1996 wtf?
22:40 lwq1996 ok i will reveal mine
22:40 lwq1996 www.facebook.com/lwq1996
22:40 ChopSuey I won't visit it.  It is not likely that a 14 year old can teach me anything.
22:41 masterofmonks In my experience age is little determination of skill.
22:41 lwq1996 you woulnt be welcome in this channel if you dont start respecting us
22:41 ChopSuey Then fine, I may not be welcome.  Such is life.
22:42 ChopSuey I'm a real geek wishing to meet other real geeks, not wannabes.
22:42 lwq1996 hmmm...what all do you know how to do
22:43 ChopSuey I designed and built my own GPS tracking system, the hardware and software.
22:43 lwq1996 hmmm....
22:43 lwq1996 i help code the bot here
22:43 lwq1996 say hello botsteve
22:43 ChopSuey It's pretty easy, in concept, but it took me two years and cost over half a million.
22:43 lwq1996 hello botsteve
22:43 BotSteve Word up lwq1996
22:43 astro73 lwq1996 is still larval
22:43 lwq1996 larval?
22:44 astro73 you're learning
22:44 lwq1996 ah
22:44 lwq1996 yes i am
22:44 lwq1996 astro just taught me databases
22:45 ChopSuey I've coded a lot in FoxPro.
22:45 astro73 not so much "taught" as whacked you with a manual
22:45 astro73 .... really?
22:45 lwq1996 lol
22:45 lwq1996 .g foxpro
22:45 BotSteve lwq1996: http://www.gofoxpro.com/
22:46 ChopSuey Where's the wine and cheese table?
22:47 lwq1996 wheres the bragging and bitching table
22:47 ChopSuey You asked.  Suit yourself.
22:48 astro73 ChopSuey: best stick to the hardware
22:49 lwq1996 .wiki foxpro
22:49 BotSteve "Visual FoxPro, an object-oriented programming language and RDBMS, published by Microsoft, for Microsoft Windows" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxpro
22:49 lwq1996 hmm
22:49 lwq1996 seems that botsteve gets things mixed up
22:49 ChopSuey It certainly wasn't developed by Microsoft.  They merely bought it.
22:50 lwq1996 lol
22:50 lwq1996 if they bought it they can say they made it
22:50 ChopSuey Yes, they can say it.  And you can say the world is flat.
22:51 ChopSuey A flat Earth would be nice.  Time zones are such a pain.
22:51 tonsofpcs *tries figuring out how to configure squid for upsidedownternet*
22:51 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: so how much does LightSquared hurt you/annoy you?
22:51 tonsofpcs the world is flat (within tolerances ;)
22:51 tonsofpcs there's one time 'zone' that matters.  Call it UTC, call it Zulu, whatever.
22:52 tonsofpcs just don't call it GMT :-p
22:52 ChopSuey I don't understand the question.  How does light squared hurt me?
22:52 astro73 no! The one time zone is tgg
22:52 astro73 .time tgg
22:52 astro73 .t tgg
22:52 BotSteve Mon, 10 Oct 2011 18:52:33 TGG
22:52 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: you know who lightsquared is and what they do (or are trying to do) right?
22:52 ChopSuey Bright light is certainly annoying.  It glares off my monitors.  The Sun is evil.  I suggest a big umbrella in space to control it.
22:53 ChopSuey I do not.
22:53 tonsofpcs .g lightsquared gps
22:53 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/fcc-demands-more-lightsquared-gps-interference-tests/2011-09-14
22:54 lwq1996 hmmm
22:54 tonsofpcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LightSquared#Interference_issues
22:54 lwq1996 i need to make botsteve a .commands thing so he can tell people the commands
22:54 ChopSuey Oh, no problem.  The U.S. military controls GPS.  If any concern interferes with it, they'll simply be bombed.  :)
22:55 ChopSuey Yaya, it's not so easy.  But they WOULD be shut down, no doubt about it.
22:55 tonsofpcs right, but military GPS uses an augmented band that is further out and not susceptible to the same exact interference
22:55 lwq1996 botsteve should i update some of your code
22:55 BotSteve Nope
22:55 lwq1996 ok then stay old
22:56 tonsofpcs well, part of the issue is that new(er) rules allow for "Satellite based services" to have (essentially) power-unlimited terrestrial stations....
22:56 astro73 BotSteve: Should BatSteve update your code?
22:56 BotSteve Yep!
22:56 lwq1996 ass hole...
22:56 tonsofpcs BotSteve: should lwq1996 stop complaining?
22:56 BotSteve Definitely
22:56 lwq1996 botsteve im gona make you talk in all caps
22:57 * lwq1996 smacks botsteve
22:57 tonsofpcs stop complaining, lwq1996
22:57 ChopSuey I'm an optimist about such matters and will not worry about it.
22:57 lwq1996 botsteve should talk in all caps
22:57 BotSteve Definitely
22:57 lwq1996 lol
22:58 lwq1996 chopsuey you look hungry
22:58 lwq1996 .sandwich chopsuey
22:58 BotSteve Here you go, chopsuey, I made you a grilled chicken on hamburger bun sandwich!
22:58 tonsofpcs lwq1996: you mean "chopsuey, you look delicious"
22:58 ChopSuey People who write news stories often get it wrong, or try to arouse fear to make the story sell.
22:58 tonsofpcs .w chop suey
22:58 BotSteve "Chop suey (Chinese: 杂碎; pinyin: zá suì; literally 'assorted pieces') is a Chinese dish consisting of meats (often chicken, fish, beef, shrimp (UK: prawns) or pork) and eggs, cooked quickly with vegetables such as bean sprouts, cabbage, and celery and bound in a [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chop_suey
22:59 ChopSuey You should amend that to include cat and dog.  Cat greasy.  Dog tender.
22:59 lwq1996 .yt system of a down-chop suey
22:59 BotSteve lwq1996: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvFpBOe8eY
22:59 tonsofpcs :)
23:00 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: that story hit my desk before it hit the mass-market news.  Mind you, I'm on discussion lists with folks whose idea of fun is listening to the GPS updates on WWV(B)
23:00 ChopSuey That wasn't chicken!   - fortune cookie
23:00 astro73 ChopSuey: no kidding. they're also controlled by large corporations.
23:01 ChopSuey That's nice, tons, but I make my own judgements and the opinion(s) of other have never counted much with me.
23:01 tonsofpcs it didn't really hit the news until they announced (FAA?) testing
23:01 ChopSuey others   :)
23:02 tonsofpcs basically, from what I have interpolated, people who have GPS radios with crappy front-ends aren't going to have GPS anymore.  People with decent GPS radios won't care
23:02 ChopSuey What?  Airplanes won't fall out of the sky?  That's no fun at all.
23:03 tonsofpcs well, they will if they're in 100% GPS-controlled-mode and the GPS is a POS........
23:03 tonsofpcs airplanes with pilots won't fall out of the sky :)
23:03 ChopSuey t'd be deadly funny if the p-code was interfered with, and Army units out on trainining in the woods got lost.  :)
23:03 tonsofpcs (also, GPS doesn't work at altitude or speed....)
23:04 ChopSuey It does.
23:05 ChopSuey Such units are restricted, but they certainly exist.  It's the whole point of it being created, to guide missiles.
23:05 tonsofpcs let me rephrase "isn't supposed to" and that altitude is FL...50? 60? and speed is something obscene
23:06 tonsofpcs also, a casual read of thte rules makes it seem like the restriction is an intersection not a union....
23:07 * ChopSuey thinks about the intersection of the finger with the nose.
23:07 * ChopSuey thinks about the union of a horse and a donkey.
23:08 * ChopSuey should only think on Tuesdays.
23:08 tonsofpcs I only think on days ending with s.  Single-day thoughts are often not thought enough of ;)
23:09 * ChopSuey shoot you with a coil gun.
23:09 ChopSuey shoots
23:10 ChopSuey I have one.  It's hilarious.  It's one stage, yet has a range of 20 meters.
23:11 ChopSuey "Things to do with big capacitors."
23:11 astro73 do you watch tgg videos?
23:11 ChopSuey Not yet.  I am new here.
23:12 astro73 k
23:12 ChopSuey I have 2 video of my own I may contribute, one being the coil gun.
23:12 astro73 there's a server cabinent full of capicators. We call it stomper.
23:12 ChopSuey I zink zere ees zomezing wrong vit my "s" key.
23:13 astro73 everything you can do, the captain can do bigger
23:13 ChopSuey Might be.  My budget is limited.
23:14 astro73 so is his. but he manages to get people all over the world to send him stuff for free.
23:15 ChopSuey I had access to a warehouse full of old computers and parts for awhile.  That's when I got the caps for the gun.  :)
23:15 astro73 PSUs?
23:15 ChopSuey ya
23:15 astro73 he's gotcaps bigger than cans of soda
23:16 ChopSuey Those are pretty dangerous, you know.
23:16 astro73 not as dangerous as the pole pigs and the tesla coils
23:17 astro73 nothing like running a tesla coil pair on 200kVA
23:17 ChopSuey I had the puppy of a visitor sniffing one of my projects.  I was scared.  :)
23:17 ChopSuey I ain't mechanically inclined, so none of my stuff is in boxes.....except my clock.
23:17 astro73 ... that doesn't take much mech
23:18 ChopSuey I can't even drill 4 holes for leds in a straight line.
23:18 ChopSuey When I needed the D-type holes for a serial port in a project, I got a friend to do it for me.
23:19 astro73 .... you need help. come to lab for a week.
23:19 injektion masterofmonks, you here?
23:19 ChopSuey Who needs boxes?  Bare electronics is pretty, in my opinion.
23:19 masterofmonks Yes.
23:19 injektion masterofmonks, can I PM you?
23:19 masterofmonks You may.
23:20 ChopSuey But I have had to have boxes, sometimes.  Like, Bell Mobility insists on it.
23:20 astro73 D holes are hard
23:20 ChopSuey They'd be easy with the right equipment, There's a jig for it.  But it's expensive.
23:21 astro73 moose could make one. or just use the mill.
23:21 ChopSuey Of course any machinist could build it.   I don't know such people.
23:22 astro73 you do now!
23:22 * astro73 yells to the channel
23:22 astro73 Who knows how to operate a CNC?
23:23 ChopSuey I'm sure I could wreck one.  I have that effect around anything mechanical.  :)
23:24 astro73 i'm sure there's several people here that know
23:25 ChopSuey So.  What do you build?
23:25 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: big capacitors? how big?
23:25 astro73 tools. of the software variety
23:25 ChopSuey The ones I used?
23:25 tonsofpcs ya
23:26 astro73 not yet.
23:26 ChopSuey I went and looked.  Most are garden variety 220 or 500uf.   String enough in parallel and it's enough to get a free hairdo.
23:27 tonsofpcs oh, little guys
23:27 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
23:27 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 9.73 hours ago at 2011-10-10 13:43:58 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:27:50 UTC
23:27 lwq1996 :c
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23:28 kokona hello
23:28 * tonsofpcs deals with things from <0.1pF to >1.0F
23:28 ChopSuey 27 caps in total.
23:29 ChopSuey That's good for radio, or stabilizing a crystal.  What else?
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23:30 lwq1996 BATS
23:30 Bat-Mobile left #thegeekgroup
23:30 lwq1996 wtf
23:30 lwq1996 he hates me :(
23:30 astro73 tonsofpcs:that's a broad range
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23:31 Bat-Mobile BotSteve: tell astro73 that I implemented jargon file searching
23:31 ChopSuey Ooops.  I only read the first "pF".  :)
23:31 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: I'll pass that on when astro73 is around.
23:31 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: the 1F? power conditioning
23:31 astro73 Bat-Mobile: cool
23:31 BotSteve astro73: I have the following messages for you:
23:31 BotSteve At 23:31Z, Bat-Mobile asked me to tell astro73 that I implemented jargon file searching
23:31 tonsofpcs astro73: yes, I work with radios of all sizes
23:31 Bat-Mobile it's not active yet
23:31 Bat-Mobile but it will be in about 3 hours
23:31 astro73 fun fun
23:31 tonsofpcs .j fred foobar
23:31 Bat-Mobile join #tgg-bots if you want to try it early
23:31 tonsofpcs aww
23:32 ChopSuey My little $20 MP4 player has an FM radio, so the area doesn't seem too interesting to me.  Why bother, when buying the parts would cost far more?
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23:33 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: how do you think the signal gets to that FM radio?
23:33 ChopSuey And be too big to carry around.  :)
23:33 tonsofpcs (also, what $20 MP4 player has an FM radio?)
23:34 lwq1996 none
23:34 ChopSuey I got it on Ebay.  It's a BluSens PII.  It also records voice, has a nifty 1.5" color display, and hold 2 gigs.
23:34 lwq1996 brand name>
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23:35 lwq1996 ?
23:35 eadthem mithbusters stole the world largest newtons cradle title
23:35 eadthem joined #thegeekgroup
23:35 eadthem TGG still has  most balls in a newtons cradle
23:35 lwq1996 ik
23:35 ChopSuey It display pictures and even video.  Not that video is very interesting on such a tiny display.
23:35 tonsofpcs interesting
23:35 tonsofpcs only more interesting if they add an IBOC decoding chip
23:35 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: A sansa Fuze and a Clip+ both have FM tuners.
23:35 lwq1996 is it an ematic?
23:36 eadthem mmm irc messed up    was the first line i said ?  mithbusters stole the world largest newtons cradle title
23:36 astro73 eadthem: i think that means we need to build a bigger one. Did they keep their's together afterwards?
23:36 eadthem k nvm
23:36 eadthem dont know   im just now watching the episode
23:36 lwq1996 lol
23:36 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: for $20?
23:37 masterofmonks Can be
23:37 tonsofpcs I really just want to put phased antenna arrays on the roof of the company truck and put a DTV tuner, a specan, and aa FIM inside
23:37 ChopSuey tons:  FM radio signals are carried by miniature carrier pigeons.   :)
23:38 lwq1996 lol
23:39 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: shhh, don't give it away, I need to keep my job :D
23:39 lwq1996 no you dont :P
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23:40 Toastdude Hi
23:40 WhiteChocolate Ooopsie.   I losted the connection done did.  Go away, ChopSuey, you silly ghost.
23:40 tonsofpcs lwq1996: it's my job to send out the carrier pigeons and direct them away from certain listeners during certain shows so that they call and complain that we're censoring [$agenda] from them and that it's a conspiracy...
23:41 lwq1996 lol
23:41 lwq1996 and RACIST
23:41 WhiteChocolate And Internet traffic, TCP UDP, all of it, is carried by gophers.  They run thru underground tunnel real fast.
23:41 tonsofpcs WhiteChocolate: no, only TCP can be carried by gopher.
23:42 astro73 WhiteChocolate: that's why you use nickserv
23:42 tonsofpcs http://catb.org/jargon/html/G/gopher.html
23:43 WhiteChocolate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_penguins   <--- satellite traffic
23:44 lwq1996 YAY CHOP SUEY LEFT....wait...FUCK
23:44 tonsofpcs lol
23:44 tonsofpcs WhiteChocolate: how does such a small GPS receiver work then? do they split the penguins into tiny pieces?
23:45 WhiteChocolate Isaac Asimov miniaturized a herd just before he died.
23:46 WhiteChocolate The ones who do p-code, the military signal, wear a special hat, and are drunk most of the time.
23:48 tonsofpcs heh
23:49 astro73 so anyone could do spectrum analysis and make a military-grade GPS?
23:49 WhiteChocolate I doubt it.
23:50 tonsofpcs ^^
23:50 tonsofpcs you need to be able to reassemble the penguins in the right orientation ;)
23:50 tonsofpcs and make sure they keep their hats on!
23:50 astro73 who's drunk here?
23:51 tonsofpcs no, who's drunk on first base
23:51 astro73 exactly.
23:51 WhiteChocolate Anyway, I didn't BUILD A GPS.  I'm not THAT geeky.  I bought one, and a microcontroller, and a wireless data link, and threw them all in a box.  That's challenging enough, coding a uC, and having a circuit board that can stand Bell Mobility testing (heating, freezing, being dropped on the floor).
23:52 tonsofpcs this isn't you, is it? http://www.thefintels.com/aer/gpstelemetry.htm
23:53 WhiteChocolate Hell no.  My GPS was a board with no display, not some consumer end-user item.
23:53 * tonsofpcs uses GPSs that are much less (and yet much more) than "a board with no display"
23:54 WhiteChocolate survey stuff that does carrier tracking?
23:54 tonsofpcs no
23:55 WhiteChocolate I do suspect that that "neutrinos faster than light" finding at CERN is a GPS error.
23:56 WhiteChocolate Not an inherent error.  They're not using it properly.
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23:56 wannabe1987 ...
23:56 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
23:56 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
23:56 wannabe1987 oh noes
23:56 wannabe1987 i broke the bot
23:56 wannabe1987 FUCK
23:56 wannabe1987 who wanted to talk to me?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:56 wannabe1987 lwq1996?
23:56 wannabe1987 prolly angy....
23:56 tonsofpcs I've got a few trimble bullets and a few similar that have the receiver inside the shell
23:57 BotSteve joined #thegeekgroup
23:57 tonsofpcs 16:23:48 < astro73> BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 that jacque says hi
23:57 wannabe1987 nice :)
23:57 wannabe1987 astro73:  - you at jacques still?
23:58 wannabe1987 yep, that was it.  good :)  (i searched the log
23:58 WhiteChocolate Bullets with GPS?  That must be hard to interface to.
23:58 tonsofpcs WhiteChocolate: hmm?
23:58 tonsofpcs http://www.usinenouvelle.com/industry/trimble-8822/bullet-gps-antenna-p95759.html
23:59 WhiteChocolate Unless you have really, really tiny hands and an itsy-bitsy soldering iron.
23:59 tonsofpcs I've got a few of those, a few like them from different manuf., and a few with integral chips that run RS232/485 out
23:59 VTS-80 Miniturization surely is a wonderful thing. Now, if I could only find my cell phone...
23:59 wannabe1987 Ponko hi

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