Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-10-11

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00:00 wannabe1987 VTS-80: have someoen call it.  i hate it when that happens
00:00 wannabe1987 omg new people?  /me is confused
00:00 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: you're new people for them too
00:00 wannabe1987 ik, i was offline *all* day....
00:00 wannabe1987 don't mind me, i'm *really* ADD today
00:01 Ponko hey kelly
00:02 tonsofpcs what? where?
00:02 wannabe1987 over there.  in teh closed pool
00:03 wannabe1987 hows you Ponko?
00:03 lwq1996 STEVE
00:03 lwq1996 how was your classes
00:03 egrsteve LEE
00:03 egrsteve UUUrg
00:03 egrsteve not very fun
00:03 lwq1996 frustrating i see
00:03 Ponko i'm good kelly :) you?
00:03 lwq1996 here sit down and eat some skittles
00:04 lwq1996 .skittles egrsteve
00:04 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I got you some red skittles!
00:04 egrsteve thanks
00:04 lwq1996 i think i may switch back to using my linux machine....this one is so fucking slow
00:05 lwq1996 tho i need to get a bigger hard drive for it
00:05 lwq1996 anyone got a good 200gb hard drive
00:06 lwq1996 hmmm i may even get an external
00:06 lwq1996 WITH USB3.0
00:06 lwq1996 oh my god that would be heaven
00:08 tonsofpcs lwq1996: note: apparently some USB 3.0 HDDs are *not* USB Mass Storage
00:08 tonsofpcs (read: WD MyPassport bad, Seagate FreeAgent GoFlex good)
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00:08 tonsofpcs (at least, for the 1TB ones)
00:08 lwq1996 hmmm
00:09 * wannabe1987 hugs lwq1996
00:09 tonsofpcs note: I'm paying 0.10 on the dollar for storage compared to like 4 years ago
00:09 WhiteChocolate I'm waiting for a quantum dot that can store a few petabytes.
00:10 * lwq1996 hugs back :)
00:10 tonsofpcs WhiteChocolate: then you run into the microsd card issue
00:11 WhiteChocolate What?  Midgets in South Dakota are causing trouble?
00:11 lwq1996 yes
00:11 WhiteChocolate I sure do like to be silly.
00:11 lwq1996 and act high
00:12 WhiteChocolate It's no act, Iwq.  I can leap carpet fuzz in a single bound, and am faster than a speeding yo-yo.
00:12 eadthem ya they didnt align there balls
00:13 eadthem so it didnt work
00:13 lwq1996 lol
00:13 lwq1996 watch some ass from our youtube channel will comment in and tell them that
00:14 eadthem ya they need a kidwell
00:14 lwq1996 lol
00:15 * Toastdude hugs wannabe
00:16 eadthem ya  you know what tgg needs to do next
00:16 lwq1996 .sandwich botsteve
00:16 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  **gloms down the sandwich like pig he is and licks the plate clean.**
00:16 tonsofpcs eadthem: zombie party?
00:16 lwq1996 lol
00:17 eadthem wreking ball newtons cradel
00:17 eadthem if they just aligned it  it would of worked
00:17 lwq1996 hmmmm....
00:17 lwq1996 i wounder if they could suspend the newtons cradel on the cealing
00:18 Toastdude .sandwich
00:18 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I made you a turkey on rye sandwich!
00:18 * Toastdude hugs wannabe1987
00:18 eadthem well they said each ball was 10 tons
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00:18 eadthem iirc
00:19 wannabe1987 o.o
00:19 wannabe1987 i need to go
00:19 wannabe1987 i'll be back tho!  in an hour +
00:19 lwq1996 awe :C
00:20 lwq1996 i should go desolder some parts or should i wait to tomorrow
00:20 Toastdude :(
00:20 lwq1996 botsteve should i wait till tomorrow
00:20 BotSteve No way
00:20 wannabe1987 .in 3hours charge cellphone
00:20 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 03:20Z
00:20 lwq1996 lol
00:20 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
00:20 BotSteve You're welcome, wannabe1987
00:22 wannabe1987 ....
00:22 * wannabe1987 waves at ChopSuey/whitechocolate
00:22 wannabe1987 how can you be white chocolate?!
00:22 ChopSuey Quack quack.
00:22 ChopSuey I don't know.  Bleach?
00:24 wannabe1987 i mean, chocolate = black, vanilla = white (skin colors)
00:24 wannabe1987 unless you're mixed race....hmmmmm
00:24 ChopSuey White chocolate certainly exists, as a candy bar and in bulk for cooking.
00:24 ChopSuey The only thing mixed about me is the vegetables in my freezer.
00:24 wannabe1987 well, yes.  i know.  i make cookies w/ white choc chips
00:25 wannabe1987 lol
00:25 wannabe1987 ok
00:25 wannabe1987 well, i really do have to go i'll bbl
00:25 CausesSevereBurn dammit
00:25 Toastdude Lol
00:27 * ChopSuey sings I'm dreaming of a white, spacesuit.  - Bing Crosby, slightly modified
00:31 Ponko hmmm
00:34 Ponko omg lee is dead.......
00:34 ChopSuey Bluce Lee?
00:35 ChopSuey I zink he died long ago.
00:36 lwq1996 my name is lee -.-
00:39 tonsofpcs ?
00:39 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp8079Q1tSk&NR=1
00:39 masterofmonks Seriously?
00:41 masterofmonks They expect to get 8-16KW out of *that*
00:41 masterofmonks What drugs are they on?
00:41 ChopSuey I'm sure that would power a house, if you flew it close to the Sun, and attached a very long cable all the way to your house.
00:41 ChopSuey cheap drugs.....very cheap   :)
00:42 Ponko hmm very quiet.....
00:45 kokona hay i didnt feel like going and spending $80 for a desoldering pump so i made a home hack pump lol it looks like paraphernalia
00:47 SparkyProjects What's more it runs indoors too :P
00:47 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORSOqxB7O3g
00:48 ChopSuey There is a way to get "free" power.  Tap into your phone line.   :)
00:49 kokona not even that
00:49 SparkyProjects ChopSuey, as long as you don't blow the exchange fuses on your line
00:50 ChopSuey I wouldn't suggest trying to bake a turkey with it.
00:51 kokona i have a newman moter that runs its self and have that runing through an amp then a tesla coil then through a 3 phase to my meaters and it suplies my 70,000 sq foot shop with 220
00:51 kokona and its been runing  for about 3 years
00:52 ChopSuey I don't quite understand the role of the meat grinder in that setup.
00:52 kokona never had a electric bill
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00:54 masterofmonks kokona: how about some schematics for that.
00:54 westmi what is a newman motor?
00:54 masterofmonks .g newman motor
00:54 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Energy_Machine_of_Joseph_Newman
00:54 ChopSuey Ya.  Alfred or Paul?
00:55 kokona westmi: have u seen the wind turbines
00:56 kokona masterofmonks: of monks u work at TGGHQ?
00:56 masterofmonks No.
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00:56 masterofmonks I am approximately one kilomile from there.
00:56 kokona hhhmmm
00:57 westmi kilomile?
00:57 westmi kokona, no
00:58 westmi sooo
00:58 westmi newman motor+fail
00:58 westmi according to wikipedia
00:59 ChopSuey It might have higher output at first, until the gerbils starve and die.
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01:02 kokona westmi: it explains the workings of the neman mortor but i have a differant set up
01:04 kokona right now im working on building another motor, amp, and coil for a friend of mine the hole thing takes up aroung 5 cubic feet of space
01:04 masterofmonks kokona: The laws of thermodynamics are not a sugestion in this channel.
01:04 kokona what do u meen
01:04 kokona no none of it gets hot
01:06 ChopSuey I'm working on getting my bellybutton authorized as a NASA launch platform.   :)
01:07 kokona what? any ways when i get this other modle assembled ill make a video of it explaining every thing and how it all works but it transformes 3v into 1,000,000v
01:08 kokona and ill put it on youtube
01:08 ChopSuey Make sure it's filed in the comedy section.
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01:08 masterofmonks kokona: seriously you should just stop there.
01:08 Toastdude Katemonster!
01:09 Katemonster Toastdude!
01:09 Cprossu masterofmonks rofl.
01:09 kokona masterofmonks:  why whats wrong with it
01:09 Cprossu brb food stuffs
01:09 kokona its science
01:09 Toastdude Bye Cprossu
01:09 Cprossu kokona, you can't take 3 from 2 so you look at the 4 in the tens place.
01:10 kokona ?
01:10 Toastdude Now that's really 4 tens, so you make it 3 tens
01:10 Toastdude :D
01:10 ChopSuey You can take 3 from 2, but the bank doesn't like it.   :)
01:10 Toastdude Regroup...
01:11 kokona ?well i dont know about the rest of you but i bend the laws a physics every day
01:11 Toastdude kokona: And you change the 10 to 10 ones
01:11 kokona so :p
01:11 masterofmonks kokona: one more comment like that and you get timeout for 15 minutes.
01:11 ChopSuey It's a mighty thin physics textbook that can be bent.
01:11 kokona lol
01:11 Toastdude And you add 'em to the 2 and get what, Cprossu?
01:11 Cprossu 4?
01:12 Toastdude ...
01:12 Toastdude 12
01:12 Cprossu lol
01:12 Toastdude :P
01:12 Cprossu well it's not the correct answer that matters
01:12 kokona why no out of the box discustion
01:12 Toastdude It's that you understand what you're doing
01:12 Cprossu exactly!
01:12 Toastdude The sun's shining bright, everything seems alright when we're
01:12 Cprossu new math! nehooo math!
01:13 Cprossu poisioning pigeons in the park!
01:13 Cprossu and maybe we'll do in a squirrel or two!
01:13 kokona defing reality
01:13 kokona ?
01:13 Toastdude When we're poisoning pigions in the park!
01:14 Cprossu they'll all die in laughter and merriment, except for the few we take home-
01:14 Toastdude We'll murder them all amid laughter and merriment...
01:14 Cprossu *amid
01:14 Cprossu damn
01:14 Cprossu feeding a cat brb
01:14 Toastdude Lol
01:14 ChopSuey Don't forget to kill some bunnies too.
01:15 Toastdude ...except for the ones we take home to experiment..
01:15 ChopSuey Dog:  Man's best friend.   Cat:  Weird antisocial roommate that poops in a box.
01:15 kokona that steve jobs was an out of the box thinker and the only reason no one tells im no  is cuase everyone likes thier i pads but when i end energy problems its taboo :( why
01:16 ChopSuey Because Apple products are real and perpetual motion machines are not real.
01:16 Cprossu seriously though, kokona is comedy relief masterofmonks
01:17 Cprossu also I think we can put 5000 angels on the head of a pin
01:17 Katemonster is he still here?
01:17 kokona well i have PM in my basment
01:17 kokona there for its real
01:17 Katemonster also tom lehrer ftw
01:17 westmi do you have bats in the attic?
01:18 ChopSuey "Chip art" has been around a long time, which is like thousands of angels on a pin.
01:18 kokona no thats were i keep my colectables
01:18 Cprossu I also keep my jar of magic fairy dust around in case of emergencies
01:19 Cprossu you know, I have the ability to fly 500 miles in a single bound, it's great.
01:19 ChopSuey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chip_art  <--- OOooooooooOOO!   See the buffalo!
01:19 Cprossu my favorite chip art was on HP/DEC chips
01:20 ChopSuey Was it a squirrel or what?
01:20 kokona alright is nano tech real then?
01:20 Cprossu http://farm1.static.flickr.com/27/52645197_ff65c5a537.jpg
01:20 ChopSuey Atilla the Hun!
01:20 Katemonster holy piss
01:20 Cprossu they tended to do 'large scale' chip art
01:21 ChopSuey a Viking?  Eric the Red ? (an early Communist)
01:21 Katemonster speaking of Red...
01:21 lwq-RIP .seen tggred
01:21 BotSteve lwq-RIP: I last saw tggred 4.93 hours ago at 2011-10-10 20:25:51 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:21:40 UTC
01:22 Katemonster .......
01:22 Katemonster liquid, who are we mourning?
01:22 lwq-RIP me
01:22 lwq-RIP i die without wannabe
01:22 * Katemonster rolls eyes
01:23 lwq-RIP because she is the only person that gets me
01:23 Cprossu .seen lol
01:23 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen lol around.
01:23 Cprossu haha
01:23 Cprossu .seen CaptainBoden
01:23 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw captainboden 659.58 hours ago at 2011-09-13 13:48:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:23:45 UTC
01:23 lwq-RIP what?
01:24 ChopSuey .seen a_chicken_cross_the_road
01:24 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen a_chicken_cross_the_road around.
01:24 * Katemonster is fuckin EXHAUSTED
01:24 Cprossu .seen myself
01:24 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw myself 1152.69 hours ago at 2011-08-24 00:42:40 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:24:08 UTC
01:24 Cprossu o_O
01:24 Cprossu wtf?
01:24 Katemonster .seen a_needle_wink_its_eye
01:24 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen a_needle_wink_its_eye around.
01:24 lwq-RIP lol
01:24 ChopSuey .seen Jimmy Hoffa
01:24 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen jimmy around.
01:24 Cprossu I wonder if I left myself any messages
01:24 lwq-RIP lol
01:24 Katemonster okay, i'm gonna shower and eat.
01:25 Katemonster bbl.
01:25 ChopSuey .seen Elvis
01:25 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen elvis around.
01:25 myself ,
01:25 ponko92 hi
01:25 ChopSuey Oh wow.  It lost the capitalization.  How disrespectful to the King.
01:26 * ChopSuey kicks the bot with blue suede shoes.
01:26 ponko92 .seen ponko92
01:26 BotSteve ponko92: I last saw ponko92 0.01 hours ago at 2011-10-11 01:25:29 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:26:11 UTC
01:26 BotSteve left #thegeekgroup
01:26 ponko92 blue suede shoes?
01:26 Cprossu you know I think I left myself messages
01:26 ponko92 wtf?
01:26 Cprossu to test botsteve
01:26 Cprossu but....
01:26 Cprossu I don't remember what names they were under
01:27 Toastdude BatSteve!
01:27 ponko92 lol
01:27 BatSteve ChopSuey: That's because the bot disregards capitalization in general.
01:27 BotSteve joined #thegeekgroup
01:27 BatSteve which is why you can do
01:27 BatSteve .quote
01:27 BotSteve The first time, it's a KLUDGE! The second, a trick. Later, it's a well-established technique! -- Mike Broido, Intermetrics
01:27 BatSteve or
01:27 BatSteve .qUoTE
01:27 ponko92 hia bats
01:27 BatSteve ...hahahahhaah you can't with quote
01:27 BatSteve disregard that, I'm an idiot
01:27 Toastdude No you're not...
01:28 ChopSuey I like to use WOM (write-only memory) in my projects.
01:28 ponko92 why?
01:28 * ponko92 smacks batsteves ass
01:29 ChopSuey Because gadgets that don't work don't sell, so they're tax exempt.
01:29 Cprossu I fucking say fuck a fuck-of-a-lot on this fucking channel.
01:30 Cprossu oooh
01:30 Cprossu check this out
01:30 Cprossu BatSteve you around still
01:30 BatSteve hi Cprossu
01:30 hindenburg .
01:30 BotSteve hindenburg: I have the following messages for you:
01:30 BatSteve I just returned
01:30 BotSteve At 06 May 05:19Z, Cprossu asked me to tell hindenburg Oh, the humanity!
01:30 ponko92 no i creeped him out
01:30 ponko92 lol
01:33 Cprossu not too bad though, that message was in cold storage for a while
01:33 BatSteve ChopSuey: Hi, welcome!
01:33 ponko92 lol
01:33 BatSteve Are you new?
01:33 ponko92 yes
01:34 ponko92 ponko are you around
01:34 ChopSuey Aye, that I am.
01:35 BatSteve Welcome!
01:35 Ponko yep
01:35 ChopSuey Where's my honorary smack with a sliderule?
01:35 Ponko ponko92 who's you really
01:36 ponko92 lwq1996 :P
01:36 lwq1996 Hello
01:36 Toastdude :P
01:36 Cprossu don't ask for it ChopSuey, we have a giant wescott sliderule.
01:36 ponko92 wise desision toast
01:36 ChopSuey Iz dat metal, wood, or plastic?
01:36 Toastdude Lol :P
01:37 ponko92 lol
01:37 Cprossu wooden
01:37 Cprossu http://news.uns.purdue.edu/images/+2004/alleman-sliderule.jpg
01:37 Cprossu ^ it looks like this.
01:37 Toastdude All of the above
01:37 Ponko oh bliemy
01:37 Cprossu though ours says wescott I think
01:37 Ponko blimey*
01:37 Toastdude Haha
01:38 ChopSuey Holy moley.  That thing must have cost an entire tree.  And many bunnies probably died.  But it was worth it.
01:38 Cprossu because of the bunnies and trees sacrifice we went to the moon.
01:38 Cprossu using slide rules.
01:38 Cprossu because our computers sucked. (rofl)
01:38 ponko92 HOLLY SHIT PROTO BOARDS COST ALOT
01:39 ChopSuey Depends what size, ponko.  I use $10 ones.
01:39 ponko92 YEAH
01:39 ponko92 them
01:39 Ponko umm ok
01:39 ponko92 i thought they would be 3dollars a board
01:39 Cprossu kokona uses proto boards made of unicorn meat, I want to know where it's purchased.
01:39 ChopSuey I have to use 4 of them for any project using WOM.   :)
01:40 kokona what? now your making fun of me and i dont apreatiate it
01:41 lwq1996 lol
01:41 * Cprossu *my evil plan continues* muhahahahahahahahahahahah(cough)... hahahahahahahahah
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01:43 ChopSuey That sliderule pix - have any of you seen a guy wear a bolo tie like that in the past 10 years?  I haven't.  But they're so nice.
01:44 ChopSuey Isaac Asimov wore one, so they must be ok.
01:44 Cprossu I have a bolo tie
01:44 Cprossu or two
01:44 ChopSuey Do you wear it?
01:44 Cprossu I think one has a scorpian in it
01:44 Cprossu occasionally
01:44 ChopSuey To work?   :)
01:44 Cprossu I don't have work :(
01:45 ChopSuey Well, would you wear one to work?
01:45 BatSteve tonsofpcs: I think the altitude is 60,000 feet and the speed is > 1000 knots.
01:45 Cprossu coming november consulting job at least
01:45 Cprossu yeah I'd wear one to work
01:46 Cprossu granted I am in AZ
01:46 Cprossu so it would be acceptable
01:46 ChopSuey Aye, Az has farmers & ranchers.
01:48 ChopSuey I'm a Canoodian.   I wear a beaver hat, mukluks (shoes), and maple leaves glued all over.
01:54 BatSteve ChopSuey: you're not nearly polite enough to be a Canuck.
01:55 Toastdude Brb
01:56 lwq1996 brb
01:57 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:
01:59 FuzzyWuzzy joined #thegeekgroup
01:59 BatSteve aw!
01:59 FuzzyWuzzy I sure do hate moose who get between my Wifi stick and router.
01:59 BatSteve poop!
01:59 BatSteve masterofmonks: the youtube video alerter is broken
01:59 BatSteve I blame you.
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02:00 masterofmonks Really?
02:00 masterofmonks Well just have LeeWQueen1996 fix it.
02:00 LeeWQueen1996 fix what
02:01 lwq1996 what needs fixed masterofmonks
02:01 masterofmonks <BatSteve> masterofmonks: the youtube video alerter is broken
02:01 masterofmonks <BatSteve> I blame you.
02:02 lwq1996 it was never in place masterofmonks
02:02 lwq1996 well atleast not yet
02:07 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
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02:08 BatSteve .jargon story of mel
02:08 BotSteve BatSteve: http://catb.org/jargon/html/story-of-mel.html
02:08 BatSteve excellent
02:08 BatSteve there you go astro73
02:09 lwq1996 .video
02:09 BatSteve masterofmonks: I put in a fix for the video alerter, but I don't know if it'll work.  Your task is to check and see whether it works as intended.
02:10 masterofmonks I will only complain if it works.
02:10 lwq1996 we need a .video
02:10 lwq1996 why?
02:11 ChopSuey .music on a tinfoil cylinder
02:12 BatSteve lwq1996: write one
02:12 lwq1996 im not skilled enough
02:12 BatSteve ):
02:13 lwq1996 plus woulnt i need to write something to go to youtube and get the latest video off the website
02:13 Toastdude Yes you are lee!
02:13 * lwq1996 smacks taost
02:13 BatSteve lwq1996: yes, you would.
02:13 lwq1996 NO IM NOT...
02:13 Toastdude YES YOU ARE
02:13 lwq1996 toast i woulnt know how to do that
02:13 BatSteve A good place to start would be the Python Youtube API examples.  They're self explanatory and sort of fun.
02:14 BatSteve .g youtube python api
02:14 BotSteve BatSteve: http://code.google.com/apis/youtube/developers_guide_python.html
02:14 lwq1996 ok
02:16 ChopSuey .lightning bolt to charge a battery
02:16 ChopSuey .pizza
02:17 BatSteve ChopSuey: I'm not sure what you're trying to do there
02:17 ChopSuey I'm trying to bring the bot to full consciousness.
02:17 * lwq1996 slaps his computer
02:17 ChopSuey I want it to take over the world so that I retire.
02:18 lwq1996 chop suey you can work on the code if you want
02:18 lwq1996 .botsteves
02:18 ChopSuey .fried Coca-Cola
02:18 BatSteve Oh, that'll be a little while.  I haven't finished the skynet module yet
02:18 lwq1996 .botsteve_code
02:18 lwq1996 .botsteves_code
02:18 BotSteve my code download can be found at https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve
02:18 lwq1996 there is his code
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02:19 Toastdude Hi Sgt_Lemming
02:19 * lwq1996 slaps his computer again
02:19 lwq1996 hey toast mind donating you desktop to me
02:20 Toastdude Yes, a bit... I'm in the middle of something atm... In a bit maybe
02:20 ChopSuey I've never seen code in color like that.  I sure am out of date.
02:21 Toastdude Still stuck in Basic? :P
02:21 Sgt_Lemming yay
02:21 Sgt_Lemming back on mIRC
02:22 Sgt_Lemming nice clean windows install too
02:22 ChopSuey Yep, I've done a lot with QB.
02:23 Toastdude I've done a bit... I wasn't born in that era, sadly
02:23 Toastdude Well, I wasn't old enough to understand anything the...
02:23 Toastdude then*
02:24 * Sgt_Lemming remembers having 16 colours to play with on his computer
02:24 Sgt_Lemming 32 if you counted flashing colours
02:24 Toastdude Lol
02:24 ChopSuey I still have the original IBM PC, with a Hercules (monochrome) graphics card.  It's way cool.  :)
02:25 ChopSuey Back when a 20 meg drive cost 5 grand....
02:25 Toastdude This kinda talk of QBasic reminds me of the first time I was on here... That's been a long time
02:25 Sgt_Lemming Toastdude, this wasn't qbasic
02:26 Sgt_Lemming this  was a Dicksmith Electronics PC-200
02:26 Toastdude I know..
02:26 Toastdude QBasic has 255 colors, doesn't it?
02:26 Sgt_Lemming it had a whopping 6k of ram, local storage was on tape, and it output to a TV
02:26 Sgt_Lemming worst keyboard ever as well
02:28 ChopSuey I only used the 640*480 mode of QB, which is 16 colors.  Lower resolution may have more colors, I forget, but low res is so disgusing.
02:28 Toastdude Lol
02:28 Toastdude I used screen 13
02:28 ChopSuey I did so, rarely.
02:29 ChopSuey Ya.  Now I recall.  That's.....320*200 with 256 colors, isn't it?
02:29 ChopSuey I'll fire it up and see.   :)
02:30 Toastdude Yep
02:30 ChopSuey Yep.
02:31 ChopSuey It's also possible to access ANY mode the video card can support, but then you need your own subroutines for lines, circles, etc.
02:31 Toastdude dim x as integer   for x = 1 to 255,  circle(x,x)   next x
02:31 lwq1996 anyone got a browser that actually works...works better than ff anyways
02:32 Toastdude Chrome.
02:32 Toastdude I like it at least
02:32 lwq1996 tried chrome...didnt work so good for me
02:32 lwq1996 i need a low usage browser
02:33 Toastdude Oh, I forgot screen 13 after the DIM
02:34 * lwq1996 kicks ff in the nuts
02:34 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996, give Opera a go
02:34 Sgt_Lemming you might be pleasantly surprised
02:34 lwq1996 i am...ive already had too
02:36 Toastdude Kate!
02:37 Katemonster hi toes
02:37 Sgt_Lemming lo kate
02:37 Toastdude ...
02:37 Katemonster hi lemon
02:37 lwq1996 toast change your name to toesdude
02:38 Toesdude :P
02:38 * Katemonster is watching Nuka Break
02:39 Sgt_Lemming Nuka Break?
02:39 Katemonster Fallout-related web series
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02:47 ChopSuey Russian nuclear technology = two-headed babies.
02:48 ChopSuey Canadian nuclear technology = "the bomb" for India.   Yay team!   :)
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02:50 ChopSuey American nuclear technology = guys in submarines who can never get pizza delivery.
02:54 Katemonster lol
02:54 lwq1996 i fucking hate ff...i dont want it to be my opening browser it keeps doing it tho
02:57 lwq1996 FUCK YOU FIREFOX YOU ARE NOT THE DEFAULT BROWSER
02:57 lwq1996 HOW DO I CHANGE MY DEFAULT BROWSER
02:57 lwq1996 THIS WILL FIX ITS ASS
02:57 * lwq1996 uninstalls
02:57 lwq1996 HAHAHAHAHA
02:58 Toastdude Hey Lee... Hit the Caps Lock key once, please
02:58 Toastdude :P
02:58 lwq1996 i did
02:58 Toastdude Ok
02:58 Toastdude Thanks :P
03:00 lwq1996 if there is one of those comment boxes im gona be a dick to them
03:01 lwq1996 IT WORKED
03:01 * lwq1996 jumps for joy
03:01 lwq1996 FUCK YOU FF
03:03 Ponko ok
03:04 Toastdude Where did you comment?
03:04 lwq1996 they didnt have a comment thing...good thing they didnt...they would of all commited suiside after reading what i wrote
03:04 Sgt_Lemming lol
03:05 Toastdude Lol
03:05 Sgt_Lemming glad to see someone else wising up
03:05 lwq1996 lol
03:05 Sgt_Lemming firefox is better than IE, no denying that, but it's by no means the best browser on the market
03:05 lwq1996 ik
03:05 Toastdude What is in your opinion?
03:05 Toastdude Jw
03:06 Sgt_Lemming Opera > Chrome > Firefox > Safari > IE
03:06 lwq1996 opera is the best by far
03:06 Toastdude I have Chrome... Should I try Opera?
03:06 lwq1996 yes
03:09 Toastdude Installing......
03:12 lwq1996 i need to upgrade mine
03:19 Toastdude It is freakin fast....
03:20 BotSteve wannabe1987: charge cellphone
03:20 Toastdude Thanks lwq1996 and Sgt_Lemming
03:20 Toastdude Lol
03:20 Sgt_Lemming np
03:20 Sgt_Lemming it's memory footprint is pretty small too which is good
03:21 Toastdude RAM?
03:21 Sgt_Lemming yeah
03:21 Toastdude I only have 512 of RAM....
03:21 Sgt_Lemming 6 tabs open, 319MB ram used
03:21 Sgt_Lemming chrome is using 120mb for two tabs, one of which is 100% text
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03:22 Toastdude S tarted with IE, went to FF, the Safari, the Chrome, and now Opera
03:23 Toastdude Started*
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03:24 Toastdude Wb
03:24 lwq1996 hi sue
03:25 ChopSuey Um gowa, gerbil gerbil, and all that stuff.
03:25 lwq1996 toast do you like opera
03:25 Toastdude YES
03:25 lwq1996 and do you like the tab feature
03:25 Toastdude I love it
03:25 lwq1996 easy opening frequently open tabs you use
03:25 Toastdude :D
03:26 lwq1996 ok facebook is screwed up
03:26 lwq1996 toast want to facebook
03:27 Toastdude ?
03:27 lwq1996 use my*
03:27 Toastdude Oh
03:27 lwq1996 want to use my facebook
03:27 Toastdude Idk, sure...
03:27 lwq1996 ill send you the email and pass in a pm
03:27 Toastdude Ok
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03:28 Toastdude Andrew! Meet Andrew
03:28 Obtuse hello
03:28 Toastdude :P
03:28 Obtuse who else is andrew?
03:28 Toastdude I am, Cprossu is, And Batman
03:28 Obtuse and i am
03:28 Toastdude Ay least
03:34 Obtuse you guys are quiet tonight
03:34 lwq1996 yes we are
03:35 Toastdude Well BatSteve left, so not much to talk about...
03:35 Toastdude Lol
03:35 Obtuse I started my first day of Machine Learning and Intro to AI classes through standford
03:35 Obtuse for FREE
03:36 lwq1996 toast is flirting with red on my facebook :P
03:36 Toastdude ....
03:36 Toastdude :P
03:37 Toastdude I haven't talked to her in a LONG time...
03:38 Obtuse I should go to the lab on friday
03:38 Obtuse day off
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03:38 astro73 i got an awful headache and no speech for tomorrow or NSIS installer
03:39 Obtuse I love having every other friday off.
03:39 Obtuse NSIS?
03:40 Obtuse I've started to really enjoy Photonic Induction
03:40 Obtuse at first I thought he was just a nut
03:40 Obtuse then I learned that he plays with high voltage for a living
03:40 lwq1996 lol
03:41 Obtuse and drives a Mercedes
03:41 astro73 nullsoft install system
03:41 lwq1996 lol
03:41 Obtuse nullsoft? so you don't install anything
03:41 Obtuse :)
03:41 astro73 Obtuse: lol. they make winamp.
03:42 Obtuse it really kicks the llamas ass
03:42 Katemonster ...winamp?
03:42 Obtuse media player
03:43 Katemonster no, i know what winamp is
03:43 astro73 nullsoft. thye make winamp and NSIS
03:43 Katemonster ah
03:45 Obtuse http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;v=pxXKnRm9CiE
03:45 Obtuse ^photonic induction playing with lightbulbs
03:46 lwq1996 lol
03:46 lwq1996 mecury ones too
03:48 Obtuse this is cool ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPdvy64VtEE&amp;feature=related
03:48 Obtuse Plasma speaker arc through an little light bulb
03:51 ChopSuey I have a plasma lamp.  It's cool to bring flourescent bulbs close to it and watch them light up.
03:53 Obtuse cool
03:53 CaptainNiobe goodnight everyone... or, to those who know me... HAI!BAI! :D
03:53 lwq1996 lol
03:54 Toastdude BYE CaptainNiobe|AFK !!
03:55 CaptainNiobe|AFK bais, toasty! :P
03:57 Toastdude :P
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04:07 ChopSuey I'm going to slice this planet in two with my laser pointer.  You all put on a seat belt or something.
04:08 * Katemonster grabs parachute
04:09 ChopSuey I think I need a better lens.    Woe is me.
04:09 Katemonster and we are all saved.
04:09 lwq1996 hmmmm
04:09 ChopSuey And no bunnies died.
04:09 lwq1996 lol
04:09 lwq1996 i shoot birds with my airsoft gun...
04:10 ChopSuey It is a crime to shoot a mockingbird.  - Atticus Finch
04:10 lwq1996 but not crows
04:10 lwq1996 :)
04:11 ChopSuey Arrrrrr geeky people, my pillow calls me.  Work in the morning and all that.  Ta.
04:22 Obtuse a quick Kirby piano share ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNSVoI0hasA
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04:53 Toastdude Hi Electricguy
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05:15 Electricguy howdy Toastdude
05:15 Toastdude Lol Late raction :P
05:15 Toastdude -___-
05:15 Toastdude reaction*
05:16 Electricguy 07.16 = tired EG... XD
05:16 Electricguy and not even looking at the chat :)
05:16 Toastdude Lol
05:16 Toastdude Meh, it ok
05:17 Experimentonomen blegh 3 mins till i goto work and i feel sick and have a headache again :/ wtf?
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05:18 Sgt_Lemming mondayitis
05:19 * Experimentonomen brings out the headache drugs
05:20 Toastdude Night all
05:22 Experimentonomen worktime, bbl
05:27 * NeWtoz winks at Ponko
05:27 lwq1996 O.o
05:27 Ponko yeah yeah
05:27 Ponko brb
05:28 NeWtoz lol
05:31 Sgt_Lemming what's the nsfw channel again?
05:31 NeWtoz #TGG_NSFW
05:34 lwq1996 ummmm....newtoz not to make this sound weird or mean but are you gay
05:38 lwq1996 ok i see you dont want to say i respect tht
05:38 NeWtoz I didn't notice your question
05:38 NeWtoz and no
05:38 lwq1996 oh
05:38 lwq1996 why did you wink at him O.o
05:39 NeWtoz my winking was due to the Detroit Lions being 5-0, and Ponko's favorite team, the Green Bay Packers, are the only other 5-0 team
05:39 NeWtoz the two teams are also in the same conference
05:39 lwq1996 lol
05:40 lwq1996 i see
05:40 NeWtoz and I don't think he wants to admit how good we are ;)
05:41 lwq1996 lol
05:41 lwq1996 my highschool team just defeated a undefeated team
05:41 lwq1996 and we had wins and losses
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05:43 lwq1996 hi karmicthreat
05:43 NeWtoz yeah, that is why you always prepare your hardest for each game
05:43 NeWtoz because you never know
05:43 lwq1996 ik
05:43 lwq1996 yup
05:44 lwq1996 same way with band competitions
06:30 dr_jkl .
06:34 exor674 ,
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06:43 NeWtoz ;
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08:36 angy Boo
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08:40 douglas hi
08:41 angy hello
08:41 douglas hey angy
08:41 douglas i must say......
08:41 douglas im so addicted to minecraft
08:41 angy like more than half of mine craft players
08:42 douglas ughhhhh
08:43 douglas i dont even watch youtube that mutch annymore
08:43 douglas i havnt seen a gg video in a wile
08:43 douglas ughhhh!
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08:52 angy :)
09:02 Sythen morning all
09:07 Hackbat hmm
09:08 Hackbat someone suggest a good movie
09:08 Sythen dogma
09:10 Hackbat seen it :c
09:10 Hackbat good movie though
09:42 exor674 I hate everyone who says Aurduino code is *like* C/C++... uh no... It *is*...
09:43 Hackbat can you write plain c in the arduino enviroment?
09:43 Hackbat err
09:43 Hackbat C++
09:46 exor674 yeah, it just passes the shit you enter to avr-gcc + a custom main and library code
09:50 Hackbat it'd be nice if they added the abilty to Compile to hex
09:51 Hackbat and add support of other chips
09:51 Hackbat I belive you can do attiny's
09:51 Hackbat but you have to use the arduino as a programer
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10:36 * ChopSuey blinks a high efficiency blue led at you all.
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11:52 wannabe1987 ...
11:52 wannabe1987 BotSteve, no messages?  i feel unloved :(
11:52 * angy adds a dot
11:52 wannabe1987 ANGY!
11:52 angy that's me
11:53 wannabe1987 i wasn't allowed to spend the night at ruth's last night, hence not being online at all for ~12 hours.  i survived!
12:12 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude i found him :D  and happy!
12:12 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when toastdude is around.
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12:13 wannabe1987 hi Hackbat
12:19 Hackbat heyo
12:22 yNos|away g'monrnin all!
12:23 wannabe1987 hi yNos|away!
12:23 yNos|away meetings are dont for today!
12:23 wannabe1987 yay
12:23 * wannabe1987 is freeeezing cold
12:24 * yNos makes a fire
12:24 yNos is that better?
12:36 yNos she must have froze.
12:39 Hackbat PC's Seriously have some sorta alien form of dust in them
12:39 Hackbat you can't find it ANYWHERE else
12:40 yNos just like laptop screens
12:40 wannabe1987 yeah
12:40 wannabe1987 lol
12:40 wannabe1987 i minimized irc for some reason
12:46 Hackbat I kinda want to make a cnc router
12:47 yNos Hackbat: i made one a few years ago with blackpipe, printer servos and a dremel.
12:47 Hackbat it's the servos I need
12:47 yNos it was accurate enough to do pcbs
12:47 Hackbat I have a Dremel
12:48 Hackbat I also have a 480W dc powersupply I can use for power
12:48 yNos i'd be amazed if you couldnt find a couple dead printers
12:48 yNos how big are you thinking?
12:48 Hackbat oh we HAD tons
12:48 Hackbat 5-6 years ago
12:48 Hackbat then we threw them away
12:48 Hackbat cause they're dead printers
12:48 ChopSuey What's a printer?   :)
12:49 wannabe1987 lol
12:49 yNos i dont use them either
12:49 yNos but people seem to think i need them..
12:49 ChopSuey I have one in a closet.  It's where I go when I need a blank sheet of paper, on occasion.   :)
12:49 yNos paper?
12:49 yNos what is paper?
12:50 Hackbat yNos, I was thinking about a desktop one
12:50 Hackbat well
12:50 Hackbat benchtop
12:50 ChopSuey I think paper is a flattened tree.
12:50 yNos if you use printer servos, you will have to move slow.
12:50 wannabe1987 possibly
12:50 ChopSuey Aren't you going to ask what a tree is?
12:50 yNos nope
12:51 yNos i can look out my window and see craploads of those.
12:51 wannabe1987 lol
12:51 Hackbat I'll stop by goodwill on my way home
12:52 ChopSuey I don't understand why trees still exist.  Chuck Norris must be lazy.
12:52 pegasus typedef struct { tree *left; tree *right; } tree;
12:53 pegasus who needs windows.
12:53 yNos Hackbat: we are lucky enough to havve this place a mile from the lab...
12:53 yNos http://www.surplusindustrialsupply.com/
12:54 Hackbat ...
12:55 Hackbat I just realised I've got the chance to apprentice at a motor repair shop
12:55 Hackbat like servos....
12:55 yNos cool
12:55 Hackbat this solves all my problems
12:55 yNos a lot of replacing bearings?
12:55 yNos fixing armatures
12:56 Hackbat no idea
12:56 yNos most places around here dont re-wind motors any more.
12:56 Hackbat it's an electronics repair shop
12:56 yNos i dont know around there.
12:56 Hackbat Servo South
12:56 Hackbat is the company name
12:57 yNos they do rewinding
12:57 yNos holyshit
13:02 * angy just booked flights to GRR
13:03 wannabe1987 yay!
13:03 wannabe1987 when do you come in?
13:03 angy next week :)
13:03 wannabe1987 o.O
13:03 wannabe1987 when?
13:03 wannabe1987 date/time
13:03 angy I'll be there the 18th at 9pm
13:03 wannabe1987 do you have someone to pick you up?
13:04 angy Moose will be picking me up
13:04 angy And I'll go back on the 3rd of november
13:05 yNos well that sucks
13:06 yNos but bring a costume.
13:06 Hackbat yay :3 my new kindle will be here on the 15th
13:06 yNos kindle fire  or gtfo
13:07 yNos i do believe he left...
13:07 angy I quite did not have any choice of dates, price where quite awful at other ones
13:08 yNos i bet so
13:13 Hackbat yNos, I'm getting the plain kindle
13:13 Hackbat the KINDLE kindle
13:13 Hackbat lol
13:13 Hackbat it's cheap :3
13:13 yNos yup
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13:17 wannabe1987 .log
13:17 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
13:17 wannabe1987 so.
13:17 wannabe1987 apparently the internet here sucks
13:21 wannabe1987 awww angy i wanted to pikc you up :P
13:21 angy see with Moose :)
13:22 wannabe1987 :sigh:
13:22 wannabe1987 ok
13:26 yNos wannabe1987: i thought CASAir went out of business?
13:26 yNos or was that just their wireless side...
13:26 wannabe1987 huh?
13:26 yNos 09:17 -!- wannabe1987 [~wannabe@mcc-loadbalance-sid.inet.casair.net] has joined #thegeekgroup
13:27 wannabe1987 i'm at montcalm community college.  so idk
13:27 yNos can you do a traceroute to ynos.us and pm it to me pls?
13:27 wannabe1987 huh?
13:29 angy yay! php5.4 is released!
13:32 wannabe1987 o?
13:33 wannabe1987 does that mean phpBB forums'll get updated?
13:33 angy not really, it's only beta1 currently
13:33 wannabe1987 ah
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13:40 wannabe1987 hi Serostern, MoxieMike
13:40 angy Serostern, be Seroster!
13:40 angy you can't be Serostern and S^Away at the same time!
13:41 Serostern Arrr
13:41 wannabe1987 lol
13:41 angy waaaaay better :)
13:41 wannabe1987 yay its the evil one!
13:44 douglas wannabe!
13:44 douglas hi wannabe
13:44 wannabe1987 DOUGLAS!
13:44 wannabe1987 i was without internet all night :(
13:44 * douglas ghasps
13:44 douglas how did you survive?
13:44 wannabe1987 i know....
13:44 wannabe1987 i was with boy and girl and another boy....
13:45 douglas ughh 2 boys and a girl?
13:45 wannabe1987 so the people i normally talk to online i was with :P
13:45 wannabe1987 one was my boyfriend tho
13:45 douglas lol kk
13:45 wannabe1987 mhm
13:46 douglas cool?!
13:46 douglas i mean cool!
13:47 douglas idk how that ? go there
13:47 wannabe1987 lol speed fail
13:52 wannabe1987 i have 1355 pageviews on my blog.  w00t
13:55 * yNos yawn
13:56 * wannabe1987 is 1/2 a sleep........blogging :P
13:56 * angy pokes yNos
13:56 * yNos needs a good poking
13:56 yNos ohmy
13:56 * wannabe1987 gives yNos a .... oh my is right
13:56 wannabe1987 um
13:56 yNos that was not the inuendo i was going for
13:56 * angy grabs his wood log and poke yNos
13:56 angy there you go, good poke
13:56 * wannabe1987 sends ginger to yNos' house for a poking
13:57 yNos more like i would be the poker, someone else the pokee
13:57 yNos ohman
13:57 wannabe1987 you can poke ginger.....he likes it
13:57 yNos i lose
13:57 wannabe1987 lol
13:57 angy if you ever want to poke me, just say it to me before, don't try to do it from behind, I may react not funnily
13:58 wannabe1987 ok
13:58 yNos not into male-male poking, but thanks for offer
13:58 wannabe1987 good to know..............
13:58 wannabe1987 there you go, yNos, making it dirty!
13:58 * angy pokes Seroster
13:58 MoxieMike so?
13:58 angy there you go in the dirty :)
13:59 wannabe1987 ...
13:59 * wannabe1987 plays with knife
13:59 * angy <edited>
14:00 MoxieMike ok, to break the akward...what's a good registry cleaning software?
14:00 wannabe1987 ccleaner?
14:00 wannabe1987 nothings awkward!
14:00 angy format c: /quick ?
14:05 * yNos agrees with angy
14:05 yNos mkfs or newfs
14:05 angy zfs create
14:06 yNos if no cluster, why zfs?
14:07 angy because it's awesome?
14:07 angy that's my BSD FS
14:07 angy but you may not need all the power of zfs in everyday life as well
14:17 yNos bah
14:17 yNos free energy people are annoying.
14:17 angy they are funny
14:22 wannabe1987 M:TG people are strange. i'm surrounded by them HELP
14:24 wannabe1987 noes!!!!!  its a netsplit!
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14:24 yNos when i was 19 or so, i went to the parents for dinner.. they had seen something about tesla and wireless energy xfer..
14:24 wannabe1987 w00t no admins!!! P3N15!
14:24 yNos they thought that was amazing..
14:24 wannabe1987 where'd you go?
14:25 wannabe1987 aw they came back
14:25 yNos then i told them it was radio.
14:26 yNos my stepdad hooked up an led to one of my antennas and it glowed.. i explained that it was glowing because of the 150kw am station 10 miles away.
14:26 yNos then tried to explain the inverse square law.
14:26 yNos fail
14:26 yNos but it glows!
14:26 wannabe1987 lol
14:27 wannabe1987 yay glowing
14:27 * yNos turns his amp up to 11
14:29 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVKWCpNFhY
14:30 angy another idea for a cult, free energy from the 150KW station 10 miles away
14:30 angy kind of specific, but charming
14:39 wannabe1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2011/10/drip-beef-ree-style.html
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15:00 * wannabe1987 curls up in a ball and sleeps
15:03 yNos yay for scrappers...
15:03 yNos dirtyfckers
15:03 yNos http://www.facebook.com/CaptainBoden/posts/2491212717188
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15:04 wannabe1987 Ponko!
15:05 * Ponko is here :)
15:06 wannabe1987 yay!  the world is good, Ponko is here
15:06 Ponko XD
15:06 * wannabe1987 noms skittles
15:06 Seroster I love/hate epoxy
15:08 wannabe1987 why
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15:10 wannabe1987 hi SparkyProjects
15:11 SparkyProjects Hi
15:25 angy P'ky!
15:30 Nazca I has a pair of CRTs to dismantle and extract flybacks ^_^
15:31 Nazca <yNos> when i was 19 or so, i went to the parents for dinner.. they had seen something about tesla and wireless energy xfer.. <--- they have prototyped using TCs for wireless energy transfer, it's just unlikely to ever be done seriously :p
15:32 Sgt_Lemming Nazca, it is NOT efficient
15:32 Sgt_Lemming no wireless transfer method is atm
15:33 Nazca obviously not, as yNos says, inverse square
15:33 * Sgt_Lemming nods
15:33 Sgt_Lemming inverse square debunks so much crap like that
15:34 Nazca directed microwave is interesting ... and laser beam transmission has potential, provided they can get nano tech up to the level where it can build nano scale radio antennas
15:34 Sgt_Lemming both of them still suffer from inverse square
15:34 Nazca but yea, I can't remember who mentioned it to me, but I think it was MIT doing lab scale demos
15:34 Nazca they shouldn't do
15:35 Sgt_Lemming this is why laser cutters operate with the laser head a few mm from the surface
15:35 Nazca and they don't
15:35 Nazca laser cutter heads operate at focal distance, which is usually about 20-30mm from the surface
15:36 Sgt_Lemming which is still a few mm, not metres
15:36 Nazca and at that I'm not 100% sure the laser generator is in the head... purely because a 40W solid state laser aught to be bigger, in my personal opinion lol
15:37 angy usually, laser is not generated in the head, you have the huge cabinet and the insanely huge cooling system outside
15:37 Nazca exactly
15:37 Sgt_Lemming the laser is not generated in the head
15:37 Nazca or in this case, the laser is produced under the bed I think
15:37 Nazca by the time it's bounced through the optics it's traveled 1-2m
15:38 Sgt_Lemming but the optical path for a high power laser is typically contained, and heavily constrained
15:38 Sgt_Lemming and the optics induce their own losses
15:39 Nazca anyway... inverse square, assuming I remember the phrasing correctly, applies to an ideal spherical emission of equal density through 100% transparent medium such as a vacuum
15:39 Nazca due to spherical surface area to radius
15:40 Sgt_Lemming .w inverse-square law
15:40 BotSteve "In physics, an inverse-square law is any physical law stating that a specified physical quantity or strength is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source of that physical quantity." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverse-square_law
15:40 Nazca a directed beam, especially a laser, should have a much lower dissipation rate
15:40 angy you can have an idea of a laser size here http://www.rofin.com/en/products/co2_lasers/slab_laser/dc_series/
15:40 angy without the cooling tower I think
15:41 Sgt_Lemming it does, but inverse square still applies, just the numbers used are different as lasers don't radiate in every direction
15:41 Nazca right, the key word here is divergence
15:42 astro73 ok, GRCC has awful wireless and bandwidth
15:42 Nazca lasers have ridiculously low divergence values, and you can get the same kind of values with a properly configured parabolic microwave emitter
15:42 Sgt_Lemming .w national ignition facility
15:42 BotSteve "The National Ignition Facility, or NIF is a large, laser-based inertial confinement fusion (ICF) research device located at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in Livermore, California." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_ignition_facility
15:43 Sgt_Lemming angy, THAT's a laser ^
15:43 Sgt_Lemming NIF aims to create a single 500 terawatt (TW) flash of light
15:43 Nazca I'll give you that inverse square definitely applies to none spherical emitters, just not nearly so much
15:43 angy and you would buy one for your lathe?
15:43 Nazca NIF is awesome
15:43 angy the one I linked is affordable :)
15:44 Nazca angy: if they get the fusion system working with proper shielding it will be profitable :p
15:45 angy that's why ITER exists
15:47 angy and Sgt_Lemming: NIF fires like once a day, not really a usable laser out of research
15:47 Sgt_Lemming no crap
15:50 astro73 so i was on the highway today when a semi-truck lane shifts and runs me off the road
15:50 Sgt_Lemming fun
15:51 astro73 i'm just glad it had a shoulder, with all the construction
15:52 Nazca a flyback transformer is kind of like an engine coil pack? build up a magnetic field then let it collapse in to the secondary windings for pulsed HV?
15:55 SparkyProjects Nazca, a transformer is a transformer is a transformer
15:55 SparkyProjects Any transformer can be run on AC to produce an ac output of another voltage, or can be pilsed to give a pulsed output.
15:55 SparkyProjects With a flyback it's more like an inverter giving an AC output which is then rectified.
15:57 SparkyProjects The other name for a flyback is 'line output transfromer' (LOPT)
15:58 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyback_transformer
15:58 Nazca well yes and no ... there are two distinctions that I'm aware of ... single winding auto vs multi winding and continuous vs discontinuous
15:59 SparkyProjects They stil act the same way electrically
15:59 Nazca a discontinuous coil pack is much more like a capacitor ... building up a magnetic store and then dumping it quickly
15:59 Nazca very different beasties in practice that greatly affect application
16:00 SparkyProjects Not like a capacitor, a coil doesn't 'store' energy
16:00 Nazca sure it does,  not as much as a capacitor perhaps, but it still stores energy
16:01 * angy angy-away
16:01 Nazca and certainly not for as long
16:02 SparkyProjects As soon as you remove the voltage the energy disappears, a capacitor can hold onto the energy for a long time
16:02 Nazca the energy does not disappear
16:02 SparkyProjects OK, 'dissipates'
16:02 Nazca the field collapses and releases the energy in to the circuit
16:06 yNos i had it explained to me like this: a cap can store (dc) energy, a coil has a tantrum when you take the (dc) energy away.(field collapse and nice spark if done right)
16:06 Nazca while it isn't a capacitor in the traditional sense, a magnetic field can store a notable quantity of energy for a measurable amount of time with reasonable efficiency, and will continue to store that energy as long as power is maintained to the coil
16:07 yNos and a coil does have winding capacitance.
16:07 astro73 that's the basis of a switching PSU, right?
16:08 SparkyProjects " as long as power is maintained to the coil"  <-- exactly
16:08 Nazca yNos: exactly ... it's like lifting a heavy shutter door, remove the energy and the thing collapses releasing the energy that you used to lift it
16:09 Nazca you don't need to maintain it long ... that's the basic principle of an LC tank... you put a kick in and it kicks back
16:12 yNos same with oldschool points systems in cars/motorcycles/whatever..
16:12 yNos that is what the dwell time was, setting how many degrees of rotation the coil got to charge.
16:12 Nazca ignition coils, or call packs as I was taught them :)
16:13 yNos coil packs are groups of more than one coil
16:13 yNos in the days pre-electronic ignition you had only one coil
16:14 Nazca ah... that's why I'll never make a good vehicle mechanic... too much to know
16:14 yNos then you get into single output coils and dual output coils.
16:15 yNos what may look like a dual coil pack is actually a single coil - disjointed a little.
16:19 astro73 any chance of getting host masks for TGG members?
16:22 astro73 *host mask cloaks
16:23 astro73 BatSteve, dr_jkl, masterofmonks: Is IRC host mask cloaks on the todo list for member benefits?
16:28 yNos Nazca http://www.wikipatents.com/us/4177782.png
16:30 Nazca ignition coil, two spark plugs, one cylinder, some supporting circuitry :)
16:31 yNos am not sure what Z is.. maybe a tach?
16:32 yNos 9 keeps the points from arching too much.
16:32 yNos 2 is the points/cam assy
16:32 yNos 1 is the ignition switch
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16:32 yNos 4 is the coil
16:33 yNos 5 is a head, or heads for a 180 crank/360cam setup.
16:34 yNos i <3 natuarally balanced engines
16:35 yNos 180 crank/360cam setup, cyl 1 fires on cyl 2's exhaust and viceversa
16:41 yNos huh.. news from 150 years ago yesterday.. http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?315665-150th-Anniversary-of-North-America-s-First-Transcontinental-Telegraph-Line
16:51 angy-away I got a problem, I lost a server somewhere... I can't remember where it is housed!
16:52 yNos it responds to pings though, right?
16:52 angy-away it does
16:52 Nazca traceroute
16:52 angy-away it works well, I know it's somewhere in the US, can't find where
16:53 Nazca traceroute and ip whois will both give you the information that you seek
16:53 angy-away ip whois will tell me my name...
16:53 Nazca you have PI space?
16:53 yNos first hop is?
16:53 angy-away I found it!
16:54 angy-away I was searching on the wrong US coast ><
16:54 Nazca if you're on PA, the allocation can be traced to the company, though even if it isn't you should be able to trace by the rt-mnt or bgp for the ip
16:55 angy-away I'm a PI
16:55 Nazca fun
16:55 angy-away and I use internal addressing for these servers
16:55 Nazca even more fun
16:55 angy-away it's a stealth node, somehow
16:56 angy-away he fault if I did not find it quickly
16:56 Nazca bgp routes are probably the easiest way to track a PI space IP
16:56 angy-away I bounce on the west coast for a server on the east coast!
16:56 angy-away I saw 280ms, so I thought it was somewhere in CA, no, it's the other side!
16:57 Nazca you know, there's something really unnerving about seeing a porn flick and thinking "shit, that guy looks just like me!"
16:57 angy-away internal ip are the worst thing you can do to try finding a server
16:57 astro73 note to self: never get my own server. Let some other sap deal with routing messes.
16:58 angy-away sane idea
16:58 Nazca and internal IP must have some kind of external routing, even if it's just ports of long distance vlans
16:58 Nazca *an internal
16:59 angy-away I'm a hop above that
16:59 angy-away I could have traced it by login on the routers, by I hate doing that
17:00 Nazca well yes, logging in to routers is evil
17:00 angy-away it has a 20% chance to just crash
17:00 Nazca this is why you have geographically correlated rdns :p
17:01 angy-away this one ends with .us.ibex
17:01 angy-away so it's geographical :p
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17:02 Nazca our router rdns will tell you exactly what dc the kit is in
17:02 Nazca usually it will also give you an idea of where the other end of the ptp link is
17:02 angy-away my router interface does it as well, if you have the public IP, not the internal one... I should yell on someone to change that
17:03 angy-away no more lost server! yay!
17:04 Nazca see I've always liked the idea of "do it all or do none" ... shared responsibility on stuff like networking inevitably leads to hell
17:04 angy-away not a problem, I like yelling
17:05 Nazca (my god I hate the network at work)
17:05 angy-away it's fun, 2 hours, then it's a burden
17:06 angy-away and then a router crashes, and it become a nightmare because the self test says it's all good
17:07 angy-away ok, enough server work for today. time to do another thing
17:09 Nazca lets say there are 20 racks per row ... 10 rows on the floor ... each has an average of 2 uplinks to each of the distribution racks ... that should give you and idea of the cabling nightmare
17:09 angy-away :) I don't do the cabling, I let other do it and deal with it when it is failing
17:09 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Sparky Projects on Problem with .MOV
17:09 Nazca that is wise
17:10 SparkyProjects http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2277/2180039413_f54b142ff4_o.jpg
17:10 Nazca that has to be fake you know
17:11 Nazca or rather ... a setup
17:11 SparkyProjects I've seen a worse one, more like a tunnel of cabling
17:11 angy-away worst I ever see is always at telco
17:12 Nazca partly because there's a limit to the port density while still being useful, and partly because that much cable would destroy air flow and kill your hardware
17:12 Nazca telco wiring is /always/ terrible
17:13 Nazca it's because it's put together in such an adhoc way
17:13 angy-away one huge cable braking in ~600 tiny ones
17:13 angy-away with /all/ the same colors!
17:13 Nazca heh, they just replace the broken pair
17:14 angy-away and re-assign it to another person a few weeks after
17:14 yNos back when i worked for the CLEC/ISP we had a room that looked similar to this.
17:15 yNos then we switched over to cisco intelligent coss connects
17:15 yNos omg that was soo much better.
17:15 angy-away the bugs in it are not
17:16 yNos we didnt run into any bugs.
17:16 angy-away I now associate cisco with weird annoying bugs
17:16 yNos it demuxed 4 OC192s
17:16 yNos well, each xconnect took one in
17:17 angy-away nearly every single time I want to setup something on cisco, I ran either in crappy hard (ECC memory story) or annoying bugs
17:19 yNos only bug i ran into what the timer bug where every 17 day X hrs X minute X seconds the timers would overflow and a core switch would reboot.
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17:29 yNos tgg|ajprog: how are things there today?
17:30 ajprog_laptop pretty dead
17:31 ajprog_laptop you going to swing by?
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17:31 astro73|mal irccloud is not always my friend.
17:31 astro73|mal i need a new bouncer
17:34 astro73 maybe one involving node? idk
17:38 yNos ajprog_laptop: i dont know, maybe
17:38 ajprog_laptop ok
17:38 yNos it depends on how things go here at work.
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17:41 mashpriborintorg hi all
17:41 angy-away evening
17:41 ajprog_laptop understandable
17:43 Experimentonomen g'day mash
17:45 mashpriborintorg russian junkyards seem to be worth the tour O-o http://offtop.ru/dustyattic/v1_706616_1.php
17:49 yNos hiya
17:51 Nazca one of the monitors I'm "deconstructing" is an old Sun CRT, like 25+ inch beast I think
17:52 mashpriborintorg must be full of copper wire
17:53 mashpriborintorg I remember of dismantling a big badass medical grade Sony crt
17:53 Nazca it's as deep as it is wide and bloody heavy, so you could be right heh
17:53 mashpriborintorg it was damn full of stuff
17:54 Experimentonomen JUNK!!! :P
17:54 astro73 I've got a big ol' kiosk CRT with touch gear. not sure what i'm going to do with it
17:55 Nazca I brought my kiosk touch screen from my folks, not sure what I want to play with it
17:56 mashpriborintorg CRTs are becoming really obsolete by now
17:56 astro73 mashpriborintorg: true story
17:56 astro73 Nazca: why not?
17:56 Experimentonomen crt is just trash :p
17:56 Experimentonomen ;p
17:56 mashpriborintorg I stwiched to flat panels  in 2003 or so
17:57 Nazca astro73: sorry ... let my try rephrasing, I fucked that up
17:57 Nazca I'm not sure what I want to play with on it... it's cool and all but I need a reasonable purpose to spend so much time on it
17:57 mashpriborintorg The only CRT I still have are in an oscilloscope...  and Mig radar displays :p
17:57 astro73 that's the hard part, yeah
17:58 astro73 esp since they're not the ultra-shiny multi-touch
17:58 Nazca mashpriborintorg: I saved them from the bin purely to disassemble them for the components :p
17:59 mashpriborintorg and CRTs have no bad caps and no rohs solder, not fun :(
17:59 Nazca I have 2 I saved for real use of some sort, but otherwise I use nothing but flat panels and have for years
18:00 mashpriborintorg I don't bother anymore picking up crts
18:00 Nazca I use none rohs solder regularly, so it really doesn't bother me... it's not like the lead is the bit that's bad for you
18:00 Nazca *non
18:00 Experimentonomen RoHS solder sucks! it smells like poop and generates shitty looking joints and requires alot higher temps than leaded solder
18:01 Experimentonomen and its susceptiple to growing tin whiskers
18:01 mashpriborintorg and the componants do not stand the higher temp
18:01 Nazca it's the flux core that's the bad big for you anyway
18:01 mashpriborintorg so the new devices are already old in fact
18:02 mashpriborintorg nowadays stuff is all shit
18:02 Nazca not all stuff ... PSUs still have fun possibilities for deconstruction
18:02 Experimentonomen not all stuff is shit
18:03 * Experimentonomen farts onna half broken oscilloscope
18:03 Nazca motherboards have some interesting discrete components still
18:03 mashpriborintorg ok but it's becoming worse and worse
18:04 mashpriborintorg the latest issue I've seem is a strange king of smudge onto chinese pcbs, like uncleaned flux
18:04 mashpriborintorg seems that is corrodes the tracks and becomes conductive
18:05 mashpriborintorg I had a digital photo frame that died because of it
18:05 mashpriborintorg *kind
18:05 Experimentonomen its all tricks up their sleeves to make us consumers buy a new one when it breaks down
18:05 Experimentonomen in other worlds spend money instead of free warranty repairs
18:06 Experimentonomen words*
18:06 astro73 Experimentonomen: there's a term for that.
18:06 mashpriborintorg and it's very reliable when the matter is to break down :p
18:06 Nazca welcome to the world of artificial failure inflation
18:07 Nazca and it's friend, enforced obsolescence
18:08 astro73 enforced? I've only heard of planned and perceived
18:09 Experimentonomen *yawn*
18:10 Nazca if you make something so that it is prone to failure, uses custom parts, and be the only provider of said parts... when you say "no more item" then the users don't get much choice
18:10 astro73 right. planned.
18:12 Nazca nah, enforced... because you're forcing others to abandon something :p
18:12 mashpriborintorg they cheat us with it, anyways the devices become obsolete so quickly
18:12 mashpriborintorg see the digical cameras versus the film cameras
18:12 astro73 .wp planned obsolescence
18:12 astro73 .w planned obsolescence
18:12 BotSteve "Planned obsolescence or built-in obsolescence[1]| in industrial design is a policy of deliberately planning or designing a product with a limited useful life, so it will become obsolete or nonfunctional after a certain period of time." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planned_obsolescence
18:13 Experimentonomen useless!!
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18:13 Nazca right, enforced is when the product would continue working just fine if they actually provided parts still
18:14 Nazca like cars :p
18:14 mashpriborintorg the typical sample is with the inkjet printers and their "waste ink" container
18:15 astro73 also, rule of them: corporations are looking for ways to scam you out of your money, with very few exceptions
18:15 mashpriborintorg If you tage apart an Epson printer, you may find that the entire bottom shell is fitted with a thick ink sucking pad
18:16 Nazca oh yea... why sell one expensive product that will last a lifetime when you can sell 1 cheap one a week :p
18:17 Nazca maybe a little extreme of an example, but look at the Model M keyboard ... those things are 40 years old and still fully functional
18:17 Nazca (not anatomically correct though :p)
18:17 mashpriborintorg and of course make all differente and incompatble parts, as Sony did for the playstation, so you can"t expect repairing with salvage parts
18:18 ChopSuey If corporations don't make huge profits, how will you be able to retire?   I sure don't want to have to set up a lemonade stand in my old age.  :)
18:19 Experimentonomen prolly caused by too much ppl wanting warranty replacements after they bricked it with a modchip install going wrong
18:20 Nazca ChopSuey: "post scarcity civilization"
18:21 Experimentonomen speaking of playstation, the first ever comment i got about my psp was "have you hacked it yet?"
18:21 ChopSuey What's that?  Joining a hippy commune?
18:21 yNos ajprog_laptop: bikes like this get the attention of hipster grrls : http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/mcy/2641700260.html
18:23 ajprog_laptop do I want the attention of "hipster" girls? who is classified as a "hipster" girl?
18:24 Nazca ChopSuey: simply put, profit is a product of capitalism, capitalism is a product of supply and demand.  Supply and demand is centered around scarcity.  Post scarcity means that an effectively unlimited supply.
18:24 wannabe1987 WHY DOES LIFE SUCK
18:25 yNos for the most part, think eastown grrls.. they are generally hippiechicks or hipster grrls
18:26 Nazca yes, that's an excessive simplification, but that's enough to get the idea
18:26 Experimentonomen *yawn* i think im gonna goto bed
18:26 Experimentonomen nite peepz
18:27 ChopSuey Appears to be that scarcity will not only continue, but escalate.  The oil is running out, the land needs fertilizers to grow anything, rare essential metals are getting harder to find, and even fresh water may soon be in short supply.
18:28 Nazca advancements in robotics, energy production tech and nano tech will eventually render those points moot
18:28 ChopSuey Not that I worry.  I'm old.  Most of you will live in a time of upheaval.  Unless you worship Elvis.
18:28 * wannabe1987 wants to know what she walked into o.o
18:29 ChopSuey Your optimism is touching.  Good for you.  But buy a gun just in case you're wrong.
18:30 mashpriborintorg and recycling techniques are making progress also, but we started recycling too late, except maybe for metal and glass bottles
18:30 Nazca no optimism... that's the more safe predictions
18:31 mashpriborintorg so what is happening to you, wannabe1987
18:32 wannabe1987 i need a place to live, i need a job, nothings hiring and noone wants someone who can't pay rent....
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18:34 wannabe1987 kate!
18:34 S_Katemonster AAAAAAAAAAGH
18:34 S_Katemonster >:O
18:34 wannabe1987 ??
18:34 * S_Katemonster has no patience for the stupid and immature, and wants to set half the people in her English class on fire.
18:34 wannabe1987 do it
18:34 S_Katemonster pretty sure i'd get expelled for that.
18:35 wannabe1987 yeah
18:35 wannabe1987 ik
18:35 Nazca noooo, don't set them on fire!
18:35 Nazca do you know how bad burning flesh smells?
18:35 wannabe1987 yeah.  nasty
18:36 S_Katemonster yes, i do
18:36 * S_Katemonster has set herself on fire before
18:36 S_Katemonster anyway.
18:36 mashpriborintorg and it's not ecological, too many carbon dioxide fumes
18:37 * yNos is making fumes
18:37 S_Katemonster let me be more specific
18:37 S_Katemonster one of my friends, who is in my english class... i'm pretty sure she has asperger's syndrome
18:37 Nazca carbon dioxide isn't really a bad greenhouse gas, it's just the quantity we produce that's a problem
18:38 S_Katemonster every time she asks a question, half the other students laugh at her and mutter under their breath about it being a stupid question.
18:38 mashpriborintorg sinking the class in the sea will be more earth friendly :p
18:38 S_Katemonster that's true
18:38 S_Katemonster and her questions really aren't that stupid
18:38 S_Katemonster but it's fucking humiliating
18:38 Nazca things like methane and hydrocarbon gases in general are way worse iirc :)
18:39 Nazca the only stupid question is the one you didn't ask :)
18:39 Nazca though there is a counter point of better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
18:40 S_Katemonster then today the instructor was running late and they noticed the clock was stopped, so mob rule said take it down and set the time to 10 minutes after so we could leave, and she walks in as shithead #2 was trying to hang the clock back up and he's like "uh, it fell"
18:40 yNos S_Katemonster: does she seem to be humiliated?
18:40 S_Katemonster yes.
18:40 * wannabe1987 minimizes irc to maximize screen space. silly netbooks
18:41 yNos has anyone offered to help her?
18:41 S_Katemonster nope.  she really doesn't need help actually
18:42 yNos she just has no internal filter?
18:42 S_Katemonster or a limited one
18:42 S_Katemonster she's super super smart, but her brain has an odd way of processing information
18:43 angy-away Kate!
18:43 S_Katemonster this is english 101, we had a 10 minute free-write session in class yesterday, and in that time she wrote a 3 page paper on miosis or something
18:43 S_Katemonster *myosis?
18:43 S_Katemonster idk.
18:43 S_Katemonster she already finished the rest of the assigned essays in the class
18:43 S_Katemonster other than review/revise
18:44 Nazca mitosis?
18:44 S_Katemonster meiosis
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18:44 S_Katemonster .wiki meiosis
18:44 S_Katemonster ...
18:44 BotSteve "Meiosis (pronounced /maɪˈoʊsɨs/ ( listen)) is a special type of cell division necessary for sexual reproduction." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meiosis
18:44 Nazca .wiki mitosis
18:44 BotSteve "Mitosis is the process by which a eukaryotic cell separates the chromosomes in its cell nucleus into two identical sets in two separate nuclei." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitosis
18:45 mashpriborintorg have her doing an IQ test and the laughting students also, and then compare the results, they may not laugh anymore
18:45 S_Katemonster i think they still would
18:45 S_Katemonster either way, i'd rather set them on fire.
18:46 yNos does she give you the impresion she was homeschooled.. eg.. socialy inept?
18:51 S_Katemonster no, public school in LA
18:51 S_Katemonster and, fyi, i was homeschooled for 3 years :p
18:51 S_Katemonster (and yeah, that did some damage.)
18:52 yNos if homeschooled from k-12, it causes social issues, a few years intermixed in there isnt that big of a deal
18:53 yNos i was in a charter school when they started the charter school thing here in michigan.. you could def tell the kids who had never been in a school room before.
18:53 yNos there were a few of them that went k-8 at home and came there for 9-12
18:54 S_Katemonster private k > public 1-5 > homeschool 6-8 > private catholic 9-11 > public 11-12
18:54 yNos the first week they usually had the same look on their face as a person who has been in prison for a few years then goes to a grocery store...
18:55 S_Katemonster LOL
18:55 Seroster Y'know what I love with epoxy?
18:56 angy-away it's sticky
18:56 yNos kindegaarten, developmental kindegaarten (they said i was mentally handicapped), pub 1-9.5, charter 9.5-12
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18:56 Seroster Whatever piece of plastic shit is broken I can either repair or replace with it=P
18:56 S_Katemonster i just had epic social anxiety disorder
18:57 S_Katemonster (epic is totally a clinical word)
18:57 yNos i am a "high functioning autistic"
18:58 S_Katemonster hmm
19:08 Sythen i hit the headmaster of my first catholic school with a chair
19:09 S_Katemonster i should have done that.
19:10 Nazca Sythen: sounds like a good idea
19:10 Sythen heh
19:10 Sythen it wasnt
19:10 Sythen but it sure was fun
19:11 S_Katemonster :D
19:11 S_Katemonster unrelated: today is National Coming Out day.  if you are anything other than a heterosexual heteronormative cisgendered person, now's the time to say so.
19:13 yNos i prefer va-jay-jay. nuf said
19:13 ChopSuey I'm into rubber chickens.
19:13 S_Katemonster that does not surprise me suey.
19:13 Nazca and next week we'll be celebrating National Getting-back-in-quick-and-barricading-the-door-against-the-mob-of-ignorant-bastards day
19:13 ChopSuey Merci buckets.  :)
19:13 * Sythen high fives yNos
19:13 Sythen me too dude!
19:13 S_Katemonster no, nazca, that's the entire rest of the year
19:14 S_Katemonster there's no political statement or anything here, i just thought i'd mention it.
19:14 yNos Nazca: this is why i prefer to live in the country
19:14 Nazca I'll support the idea of a national day for coming out when we can declare 6 months of the year "Bigot Hunting Season"
19:14 S_Katemonster lol
19:15 S_Katemonster ...that's why i prefer to live in the country with a 500 yard radius clearing around my house and a high powered rifle in hand.
19:15 yNos not high powered rifle.. rifle rounds go too far.
19:16 Nazca yea, I have very strong opinions on the subject, and most of them involve causing lots of pain to the intolerant developmentally challenged
19:16 Seroster yNos,!
19:16 yNos but shotguns do it right
19:16 Seroster You are a fucking aspie?
19:16 yNos yeah
19:16 Seroster LOL
19:16 Seroster That makes us... Err. Six?
19:16 Seroster Six known
19:17 S_Katemonster i live far enough out in the sticks where rifle reach isn't generally a problem.
19:17 Seroster yNos, I bet "billy" is onetoo
19:17 Seroster You know the kid who made bucket caps with chris, eh?
19:17 yNos billy is his name
19:17 yNos i think billy's problem is lack of guidance.
19:17 yNos more than anything else.
19:18 yNos his parents are more of the hands off type
19:18 Nazca Seroster: I have enough mental and physical conditions to write a small medical text book, but I don't think autism is on the list lol
19:18 Seroster <Cough> specialinterest </cough>
19:18 Seroster Nazca, You are...?
19:18 S_Katemonster hey, me too!  nazca, we should make a documentary.
19:19 * yNos doesnt like to play the "i have this malformity" card
19:19 Seroster lol
19:19 S_Katemonster lol
19:19 S_Katemonster i only collect the cards, i don't play them  :P
19:19 Nazca primarily fibromyalgia... I'm dyslexic, adhd, have terrible social skills, and am extremely smart (most of the time)
19:19 Seroster Screw that, My brain is made of butter and spare fasteners
19:19 yNos dont even worry about collecting them..
19:20 Seroster Nazca, I asked who you are, not what you got =P
19:20 S_Katemonster ...seroster's brain is made of butter and spare fasteners /that he picks up off the ground/
19:20 Nazca who am I ... I'm me ... obviously
19:20 Seroster ... Are you an IRL member?
19:20 S_Katemonster i am made entirely out of insecurities held together by crazy-glue.
19:20 Nazca sadly not
19:21 Nazca though GR is on my top 5 destinations should I decide to relocate
19:21 yNos S_Katemonster: most wiminz are.
19:21 * S_Katemonster rolls eyes
19:21 S_Katemonster har har
19:22 Nazca I hang around here in the chats, make confusing remarks and argue with anyone that will entertain my eccentricities :)
19:22 * ChopSuey applies sandpaper to the uneven bits.
19:22 yNos holyfck someone needs to get this... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/REDCAT-TERMINATOR-ENDURO-/160662890652?pt=US_motorcycles&amp;hash=item256841289c
19:23 S_Katemonster yNos: so are most TS people.  that's my excuse.
19:23 yNos as in TS/TG?
19:23 S_Katemonster yeah
19:23 yNos ah
19:24 * S_Katemonster doesn't even care anymore
19:24 yNos i dont know many
19:24 masterofmonks astro73: That is a network level action. You can contact the freenode staff and request a mask.
19:24 Nazca I do, and they are
19:24 S_Katemonster insane?
19:25 Nazca they are made entirely of insecurities and crazy-glue
19:25 S_Katemonster yeah, that.
19:25 S_Katemonster :D
19:25 Nazca though usually with a dash of paranoia in there
19:25 yNos i know nothing of paranoia
19:25 S_Katemonster feeling less paranoid than usual today.
19:25 yNos all thoughts are perfectly reasoned
19:26 S_Katemonster lol
19:26 * yNos scoffs
19:26 yNos tgg|ajprog: call this guy and see if it is still there and runs - http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/REDCAT-TERMINATOR-ENDURO-/160662890652?pt=US_motorcycles&amp;hash=item256841289c
19:26 yNos ajprog_laptop: ^
19:27 Nazca that is of course the seasoned trans individual ... the newly discovered ones have primary constituents of equal parts self delusion and terrible dress sense
19:27 S_Katemonster anyway, i gotta go catch the bus home.  catch you homies later yo
19:28 S_Katemonster erm... ttyl
19:28 Nazca this is the gay sectors of most cities contain a number of t-girls running around in tutus and spandex thinking that look fab ;)
19:29 Nazca hehehe
19:30 Nazca yea, gotta watch out for the queens ... they're like a fashion explosion
19:30 Sythen so yNos has assburgers too eh?
19:30 wannabe1987 ..
19:30 * wannabe1987 decided to see whats up here
19:31 Nazca kind of in a good way actually, if you don't mind having to wear your sunglasses at night ^_^
19:32 * Nazca glomps wannabe1987 and bunny hops off in search of elongated bread products to nom
19:32 * wannabe1987 gives you an elongated bread product from the freezer
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19:36 wannabe1987 anyone in gr need a live-in cook/maid?
19:36 Nazca the fact I walked in to the kitchen, ripped off a quarter of the french stick, and came back munching on it, does not make me lazy ¬_¬
19:36 wannabe1987 no...
19:36 wannabe1987 sounds yummy
19:36 Nazca I'd like a live in sex slave, but I think my fiancee would object
19:37 wannabe1987 so would i
19:37 Nazca oh yus, I like soft french stick so it's easier to eat lots of ^_^
19:38 wannabe1987 those are the best kind :D
19:38 Nazca exactly
19:43 yNos got to hit the bank
19:43 yNos later all
19:43 wannabe1987 o.o
19:43 wannabe1987 ok
19:43 * yNos waves
19:43 wannabe1987 hi
19:44 wannabe1987 bye
19:50 Nazca I think I might go rape that Sun monitor a little, see what it's guts look like
19:50 wannabe1987 ok  have fun
19:52 ChopSuey Meanwhile, as I pretend to work.
19:52 ChopSuey Yes, I need a cook and maid.  But you have to be a midget.  I don't have much space.
19:53 wannabe1987 um....
20:05 ChopSuey I also need a midget at work, to press my shift key for me.
20:05 wannabe1987 i don't know of any, sorry.
20:05 wannabe1987 theres one at the local college tho :P
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20:06 ChopSuey Far out.  I'll bring a butterfly net.
20:07 wannabe1987 ok
20:13 Seroster Heh
20:14 Seroster I have a lump on my finger
20:14 Seroster Am I dying?
20:14 Seroster Nah, I think I wont
20:14 Seroster I just had some left over epoxy goop, and my fucked up mind went "I wonder how it feels to put a lump of this guck on my pinky. lol"
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20:16 wannabe1987 Seroster you're strange
20:16 ChopSuey I believe that stuff is harmless.  Try Krazy-Glue for real fun.
20:17 ChopSuey Krazy-Glue is great for long term connection of fingers, or pennies, or fingers to pennies.
20:18 wannabe1987 lol
20:19 ChopSuey "I am sorry teacher and/or boss, I could not complete that assignment using flippers."
20:20 tonsofpcs Cprossu: interesting........ http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_quadro_sdi_capture_us.html
20:20 tonsofpcs build a switcher :D
20:22 * douglas pokes wannabe
20:22 wannabe1987 DOUGLAS!
20:22 wannabe1987 hi
20:22 douglas some dude desidded he liked to kill me a lot in minecraft
20:22 ChopSuey I'll buy that - in 5 years when it costs $10 at my local flea market.
20:23 douglas so i hid away from him, so i saw him in my house then i warped deep whithin it and i saw he died because he fell.
20:23 wannabe1987 lol
20:23 douglas and i suspected he fell in my house and i found a dimond sword in my house lying there
20:23 douglas tand i was like you fell in myhouse, and hehe was like how did you know
20:24 douglas he suspedted me of hacking
20:24 douglas tlol
20:24 douglas i just used logic and skill
20:25 douglas i knew there was  a lot of holes in the floors and im not done making it, and i kinda stoped half way to work on other stuff
20:25 douglas wannabe, what would you say if i told you i played on a mlp server
20:26 wannabe1987 i already knew
20:26 douglas lol kk
20:27 wannabe1987 why
20:27 douglas idk
20:27 wannabe1987 ok
20:27 wannabe1987 dislike tis place, power plugs are not near the computers :P
20:28 wannabe1987 might have to switch computers soon
20:28 Sythen i just quoted myself a new machine up
20:28 wannabe1987 actually i'm heading back. i'll bbl :)
20:28 Sythen have fun
20:38 Electricguy night all
20:41 Nazca I feel cheated! I demand my manly capacitors!
20:42 Nazca the biggest I've found in that hunk of metal madness is a lone 400V cap... all the others are rated 275V or less
20:47 ChopSuey You want to build a cattle prod or what?
20:50 Nazca actually I was more considering them for a CW
20:50 Sythen or electricfied nipple clamps
20:51 Nazca Sythen: nah, that's a saturday night project :p
20:51 Sythen lol
20:51 Ponko oooo
20:51 Nazca shocking behaviour in the bedroom ^_^
20:51 Sythen danger danger
20:51 Ponko HIGH VOLTAGE
20:52 ChopSuey Danger!  Warning!  Danger Will Robinson!  - Robbie the Robot, Lost in Space
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20:52 Ponko oh god lol
20:53 Sythen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a4gyJsY0mc
20:53 Nazca (no kids, don't build electrified nipple clamps, attach tens machines to the breasts, or mix elecrostim with needle play ... it's a recipe for a really bad night and some interesting explanations to the police :p)
20:54 Sythen LOL
20:55 Nazca just one of my many sex tips that really make you wonder why the hell I considered the safety of the idea in the first place :p
20:57 ChopSuey I remember seeeeeeeex.  - Grandpa Simpson
20:57 Hackbat anyone know what the 32k x 8 means when reffering to Sram?
20:58 Nazca 8 chips of 32kb I would assume
20:58 Sythen what are you looking at?
20:58 Hackbat it's a chip
20:58 Hackbat http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheet/AllianceSemiconductor/mXususx.pdf
20:58 Sythen a lone chip, a bank of chips
20:58 MoxieMike it's not a stick with 8 chips?
20:58 Hackbat it's A chip
20:59 ChopSuey No.
20:59 Hackbat I've seen that sorta thing before
20:59 ChopSuey 32k of 8 bits each.....
20:59 MoxieMike ok, then it's probably 32k in 8 sections on the chip
20:59 Nazca it's an internal structure of 256 x 128 x 8
21:00 * ChopSuey offers to sell you all a 40114 - 16 words of 4 bits each.   Hubba hubba.
21:00 Sythen oh! cmos sram
21:00 Nazca probably 256 rows, 128 columns, 8 bits per cell
21:02 egrsteve hello
21:02 ChopSuey It's got BITS, Spike, kibbles 'n BITS!   - dog food commercial
21:04 Nazca Hackbat: that documentation is interesting lol ... "262,144-bit SRAM device organized as 262,144 words x 16 bits."
21:04 ajprog_laptop hi egrsteve
21:04 ChopSuey Yes, that document seems to contain contradictions.
21:04 tonsofpcs ?
21:06 Nazca basically it's 256x128x8, which is 262,144 bits
21:07 Nazca and I'm guessing it is actually exposed as 16K words
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21:12 ChopSuey That company has a pretty logo.
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21:16 ChopSuey I only see 8 data lines I/O0 - I/O7, which is good.  I have to take off my shoes to count to to 15.  Bunnies die when I take off my shoes.
21:17 tonsofpcs grr @ isp
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21:43 Seroster HAAA!
21:43 Seroster http://elektronikforumet.com/forum/download/file.php?id=10506&amp;mode=view
21:43 Seroster Dunno if you can view that
21:52 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: thoughts on sellout.woot.com?
21:53 SparkyProjects Seroster "Du har inte behörighet att ladda ner denna bilaga."
21:53 Seroster Right
21:54 SparkyProjects I guess that means we have to be a member :P
21:54 Seroster Yep
21:55 ChopSuey Duh.  Can't know speed & location at the same time?  A GPS receiver isn't an freaking electron.
21:55 ChopSuey -n
21:57 Cprossu what's everyone up to this fine day?
21:57 ChopSuey I've used Garmin, Delorme, Rockwell Jupiter, and the Laipac TF10 receivers.  They all reported lat/long & speed - perhaps in different messages, I forget, but pretty much at the same time.
21:57 Cprossu tgg|ajprog / yNos|away / egrsteve what you guys got kooking?
21:58 egrsteve evil, evil plans that can't be mentioned here
21:59 Cprossu pity. could they be mentioned in private?
21:59 egrsteve NO
21:59 Cprossu damn.
21:59 ChopSuey Hmm.  I think I get it.  It records one or the other.  So record location.  Knowing when/where, you can calculate speeds.
22:00 ChopSuey That's a shockingly low price.....
22:00 ajprog_laptop Cprossu: that mobo is toast
22:00 Cprossu when the big projected metaphysical mokey starts destroying parts of kalamazoo I'll know at least, egrsteve
22:00 Cprossu ajprog_laptop: bet you $10 it isn't.
22:01 Cprossu send it over here I'll fix it.
22:01 Cprossu (though are you talking the A8N or the ECS?
22:01 ajprog_laptop let me rephrase that, we can't get it to work
22:01 ajprog_laptop a8n
22:02 Cprossu it's timed for DDR400, dual channel, you might have to fiddle with the ram slots to get it to boot iirc
22:02 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: have you bought from woot before? that's just their spiel.
22:02 Cprossu also change the card that controlls the vid card to "Dual" despite having a "single" might help
22:02 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: well, it records and yu can pull it later, not live tracking
22:02 Cprossu what vid card are you guys attempting to use ajprog_laptop?
22:03 ChopSuey Nope, I've never even heard of them.
22:03 ChopSuey Yes tons, I saw that.
22:03 ajprog_laptop not sure, egrsteve might know
22:03 tonsofpcs ah, well they normally sell one thing each day on each site, today is a 'wootoff' day, so they sell a new item as soon as the old is gone (chech http://www.woot.com/ and you'll see whatever's currently being sold with an equally corny description)
22:04 Cprossu I have a feeling the woot descriptions either come off of madlibs automatically or were prepared over a year in advance.
22:05 ChopSuey I doubt it'd work too well in a glovebox tho.  The hood of the car might between it and half the sky.
22:05 ChopSuey I doubt it'd work too well in a glovebox tho.  The hood of the car might be between it and half the sky.
22:06 * egrsteve is hungery
22:06 tonsofpcs Cprossu: well, the wootoff ones are all just re-prints
22:06 ChopSuey And if it's upside-down, it won't work at all.  Antenna has to point up, I bet.  I know receivers have gotten more sensitive and some work indoors thru a wooden roof, but for that price, is it sensitive?
22:07 tonsofpcs ChopSuey: eh, it has plenty of time to lock...
22:07 ChopSuey What is the current TTFF for a good receiver?
22:08 tonsofpcs TTFF?
22:08 tonsofpcs time to full fix?
22:08 ChopSuey I think the TF10 managed it in 45 seconds from a cold start, and that's ancient stuff.  "first fix"
22:08 tonsofpcs ah
22:08 tonsofpcs first fix being 4-sats or 6-sats?
22:09 ChopSuey 4 is enough....but the geometry has to be good for an accurate /at/long
22:09 ChopSuey lat/long
22:09 ChopSuey Like, if 2 of those 4 satellites are close together, it ain't good.
22:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: Radioactive on A primer on using linemans gloves.
22:10 tonsofpcs erm, you have to have 4 for some duration, 5 for an instant fix, 6 for an instant fix with reflection correction
22:11 Cprossu egrsteve, ajprog_laptop, thing we can scrape together $130? if not I might have another solution
22:11 Cprossu *think
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22:11 tonsofpcs (or know which side of the world you're on and subtract 1 from each of those)
22:11 tonsofpcs anyway, the ones I have with roofmount antennas can give me a full temporal lock and 10MHz output within 10s.
22:11 tonsofpcs lol @ SouthPark "child tracker"
22:12 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what are you building now?
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22:12 Cprossu I just need a motherboard, processor, and some ram to send down there that's not used/abused, new, and will go together once the right way without me being down there
22:15 Cprossu I've got one more spare processor and motherboard here, but I'd rather not send it as it's not the best stuff in the world and probably won't last long
22:15 tonsofpcs you think hardware issues on stream pc?
22:15 Cprossu I know we do and they are difficult to fix.
22:15 Cprossu fixable but tough.
22:16 tonsofpcs what happen?
22:17 Cprossu well ok here's the story on the stream computer: I got everything working as I wanted from the scrap I brought from home, I neglected to put thermal paste on after getting everything passed the 'extreme prototype' state.
22:17 ChopSuey There was a child tracker, you know, a device called the Wherify, which was on a wristwatch. I don't know if they're still in business.
22:17 Cprossu I had someone add some, he added a touch too much and the only compound I found in the state of MI was also electrically conductive too
22:17 Cprossu it went underneath the processor
22:17 Cprossu and made a big mess that's hell to clean up right
22:18 ChopSuey I always wondered how well it worked, too.  Can such a tiny device have 1) a good enough GPS antenna 2) the power to punch a signal to a cell tower?
22:18 ChopSuey 3) the power to run all day
22:18 Cprossu I didn't have enough time to make a spare computer for the stream box either
22:18 Cprossu just weren't enough parts avail.
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22:19 Cprossu I left a spare mobo and chip, but it appears there's an issue keeping it from booting
22:19 Cprossu I know it works because I pulled it straight from the streaming testbed computer I built here
22:20 Cprossu so that should bring you more or less up to date tonsofpcs
22:21 Cprossu tonsofpcs feel like making a drive up there to do some tedious thermal paste removal and socket AM2 dissection? :D
22:21 Cprossu DAMN I SCARED HIM AWAY! SHIT!!
22:23 egrsteve cprossu I can do some cleaning it's just a matter of time
22:23 egrsteve first, can the CPU be submersed or isn't it sealed
22:24 Cprossu I wouldn't chance it
22:24 Cprossu it's good for running water
22:24 Cprossu but I wouldn't actually put it 'all the way under'
22:24 egrsteve so no extra deep cleaning
22:24 Cprossu problem is you also need to take apart the cpu socket
22:24 egrsteve I know
22:24 Cprossu well it depends on the chemical too
22:25 Cprossu I think you can blast the thermal paste away with freeze spray
22:25 Cprossu that's my new 'try this it sounds crazy' technique
22:25 egrsteve I was thinking DI water
22:26 Cprossu it would probably be fine for the CPU
22:26 Cprossu since it's got gold pins I think
22:26 Cprossu and just epoxy
22:26 Cprossu but I wouldn't hit the mobo socket with it
22:27 egrsteve doubt that is gold contacts?
22:27 Cprossu and the mechanical parts of it sure are not
22:27 Cprossu I bet copper+steel
22:30 Cprossu egrsteve did you guys ever find the other AM2 chip?
22:30 Cprossu *also one for ajprog_laptop
22:31 egrsteve not sure
22:33 Cprossu tonsofpcs did you catch the full explanation of what happened this time?
22:35 egrsteve I'll see if I can't pick it up some time and sit down with it at school when I get some time with some IPA and a DI wash bottle
22:36 Cprossu hrmmm.  Well if you guys find the other AM2 cpu, I'll send over a last resort let's not use money AM2 motherboard
22:36 egrsteve if it's a matter of cleanin it I can get it cleaned
22:37 egrsteve if it wasn't for all the plastic I could send it through a reflow oven too
22:37 Cprossu it's a matter of 1) cleaning the cpu pins without bending them, 2) taking the CPU socket of the motherboard apart (Take lever, remove with force and wiggling, then put platic 'face' in right position to snap off without breaking it in 1/2), 3) cleaning the ZIF fins without destroying any, and 4) putting it all back together.
22:38 ChopSuey Washee washee no starchee.  - Hop Sing, Bonanza (ask your parents!)
22:39 egrsteve sounds like a job for a wash bottle and an acid brush
22:40 Cprossu hope it goes well egrsteve!
22:40 egrsteve I hope so too
22:41 egrsteve now I just have to find it
22:41 egrsteve when I go to the lab next
22:42 Cprossu why are airline tickets so expensive and time such a premium...grrrrrr.
22:45 egrsteve thats just life
22:47 egrsteve although allegiant air runs from Phoenix to GR
22:49 egrsteve might get your here for less than 100
22:49 Cprossu after taxes it's still $250 for both ways though =/
22:49 egrsteve oh
22:49 Cprossu which is more than enough to just buy your components off newegg and ship them to you
22:50 egrsteve true
22:50 egrsteve they get you on the return flight
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22:57 yNos hello all
22:57 Cprossu hey yNos
22:58 yNos so did steve fix it?
22:59 Cprossu not yet.
23:00 Cprossu then again I don't know what you mean by 'it' if it's not the stream pc.
23:00 yNos the proc
23:00 yNos from the stream pc
23:01 Cprossu nope not yet.
23:01 Cprossu see .log for conversation
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23:10 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums.  New posts made by: david.a.robison.42 on AZ Chapter?
23:19 Seroster cya
23:19 * Seroster fondles BatSteve
23:24 yNos Cprossu: did you by any change get a dipole up?
23:29 Cprossu up at my location? no but I do have some wire and PVC set aside for it.
23:30 yNos cool
23:30 Cprossu been assembling various bits for a while
23:30 Cprossu found out I need a new can of cement though
23:30 yNos you are going to pit it in pvc?
23:30 Cprossu mine..... let's just say it's in a rusted out can and isn't usable anymore
23:30 yNos **put it..
23:31 yNos or are you going to assemble a 10 meter jpole?
23:31 Cprossu pvc will just be the holder for the wires,
23:31 Cprossu I don't have any torches that work currently
23:31 Cprossu though at least jpoles are easy
23:31 yNos yupyup
23:32 yNos i am not a fan of them due to their lack of gain, but they are simple in a pinch
23:34 Cprossu about the only cool project I've completed since getting back home is my little media center pc
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23:35 yNos the reason i ask is i was just listening to a guy in phoenix
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23:36 douglas hi BotSteve
23:36 BotSteve Word up douglas
23:36 douglas hi wannabe
23:36 douglas i mean, word up wannabe
23:37 douglas i gota pee brb
23:38 douglas im back
23:38 yNos wb
23:39 yNos are you the radio station doug
23:39 yNos ?
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23:41 yNos Cprossu: do you happen to have an old cb antenna?
23:43 Cprossu yeah of course I do
23:43 yNos and a cb swr meter?
23:43 Cprossu nope
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23:43 yNos too bad
23:44 lwq1996 hia ynos
23:44 yNos you can just reuse the cb antenna
23:44 yNos if you want to try it..
23:44 yNos hiya lee
23:45 yNos iirc, that radio has an internal swr mter
23:47 yNos hmm, cool.. a simple 10 meter dsb voice transmitter... glowbugs.net/73DSB10M.pdf
23:47 lwq1996 ok its offical...a 7th grader is better than me
23:48 masterofmonks What grade are you in/
23:48 lwq1996 9th
23:48 masterofmonks And what makes this kid better than you?
23:48 lwq1996 in band i worry about his horn position so much that i forget about my own
23:49 yNos dont worry about his...
23:50 lwq1996 then he puts his horn into the ground if i dont
23:50 yNos chin up, elbows up..
23:50 Obtuse keep yo horn up
23:50 yNos are you his babysitter?
23:50 lwq1996 mines iffy but if i dont tell him he just losses his train of thought and puts it into the ground
23:51 lwq1996 babysitter no...but we all have to help eachother out
23:51 Obtuse problem with high school band, half the kids are just there for an easy A.
23:51 yNos lead by example..
23:51 yNos Obtuse++
23:52 Obtuse I was the kid that took it seriously and got pissed at others
23:52 Obtuse looking back on it, it didn't matter
23:52 lwq1996 ik obtuse...he told me that he didnt want to march and just do concert band...but on my 7th grade year you quit everything not just marching band...but now...our band director got a little sloppy this year
23:53 yNos same here, i was 2nd chair trumpet up till middle of 10th grade, then i was first chair tuba.
23:53 Obtuse I had a shitty band director
23:53 yNos because the others were slackasses.
23:53 lwq1996 i get pissed at other kids to especially said 7th grader
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23:53 yNos our director was a drummer, drums were his life.. the winds gor crapped on..
23:54 lwq1996 WANNABE
23:54 Obtuse i can understand not wanting to march.
23:54 Obtuse i hated marching band
23:54 lwq1996 mine was a tromboner
23:54 Obtuse the music has no artistic quality
23:54 lwq1996 i love marching band
23:54 lwq1996 now dont get me wrong you got to pick some good songs...no shitty ones
23:54 Obtuse its just like hey, lets grab some popular music and play it on wind and brass
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23:55 wannabe1987 hi
23:55 Obtuse although, i do respect the DCI people
23:55 lwq1996 obtuse do you know minimally speaking?
23:55 Obtuse is that a group, song?
23:56 lwq1996 three part song
23:56 wannabe1987 lwq1996!
23:56 Obtuse eh, but i'm a negative nancy because of a shitty hs band experience
23:56 Obtuse don't let me ruin that for you
23:56 lwq1996 were doing it for our marching band
23:57 Obtuse checking it out
23:58 Obtuse i just wish i had the opportunity to just do orchestra from 5th to 12th
23:58 lwq1996 its suppose to be a concert band piece but he transposed them into sizes small enough to put in a flip folder
23:59 Obtuse no flip folders alowd. you must memorize
23:59 lwq1996 we used them in band camp
23:59 lwq1996 in a regular football game we dont use them
23:59 Obtuse ah, gotcha
23:59 Obtuse cool

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