Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-10-18

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00:06 Ponko who here knows about Joe Montana?
00:07 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
00:09 Ponko kelly must know
00:14 wannabe1987 huh?
00:14 wannabe1987 i'm leaving....and i won't be back till tomorrow
00:14 wannabe1987 i miss talking to you guys till 2-3am :(
00:15 wannabe1987 bye
00:15 wannabe1987 :(
00:15 wannabe1987 lwq-nap - i have a fully charged phone, txt if needed k
00:15 wannabe1987 bye!
00:25 Ponko NeWtoz its not a suprise the the Vikings are 1-5
00:27 NeWtoz I haven't watched any of their games besides the one against the Lions
00:28 NeWtoz I really don't watch any other teams really
00:40 * lwq-nap jumps onto wannnabe
00:40 lwq1996 BRAH
00:40 lwq1996 scared you :P
00:40 lwq1996 awe...she went away :'(
00:52 tonsofpcs BOO!
00:52 tonsofpcs hmm
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00:55 BotSteve Spatula.
00:55 masterofmonks lwq1996: No.
00:55 lwq1996 botsteve!
00:55 Ponko well the Bears fans were all we'll beat you week 3 then we beat them and then they're all oh well the refs blah blah blah excuses excuses excuses can't admit they lost to the better team
00:55 masterofmonks I can kick them, and I can ban them, but I can't reset their connection.
00:56 lwq1996 ok...just wondering if you have been bestowed that power yet
00:56 Ponko you best not have any excuses NeWtoz
00:56 masterofmonks Unless they are using an old dialup modem that hasn't been patched to not respond to an external reset command.
00:56 lwq1996 ok
00:56 masterofmonks lwq1996: Nobody has that power.
00:57 masterofmonks Unless they are controlling a point between your computer and the IRC server you are connecting to.
00:57 lwq1996 ik...if you didnt catch it i was using sarcasm
00:57 NeWtoz for our last game? no way
00:57 NeWtoz our offense got nothing going
00:57 masterofmonks My sarcasm detector is faulty.
00:58 Ponko there's did when it mattered
00:58 Ponko but they where lack luster
00:58 lwq1996 lol
00:59 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: well.......
01:00 tonsofpcs ;)
01:00 Ponko end of the day i'm seeing the Bear Bucs on sunday
01:00 Ponko where is that game being held NeWtoz?
01:01 NeWtoz the bear vs bucs game?
01:02 NeWtoz it's @ TB
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01:07 Ponko nope
01:07 Ponko London
01:07 * lwq1996 jumps on ponko
01:09 * Ponko is naked
01:10 Ponko not really
01:16 masterofmonks yay my echolink has been registered.
01:17 lwq1996 ok then naked ponko jacking to his football game
01:17 Ponko yeah Lee i'm not that sad
01:18 lwq1996 are you sure?
01:18 Ponko yes
01:18 masterofmonks What, you don't watch football?
01:18 Ponko well i WATCH football i don't bash one out over it like Lee does
01:18 lwq1996 i do on ocasion...but i do go to them and watch
01:19 lwq1996 ponko you a us football nut
01:19 Ponko yeah and?
01:19 lwq1996 well so is half america...
01:19 lwq1996 but still
01:19 Ponko nah really?
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01:24 Bat-Mobile sup
01:24 lwq1996 hia bat
01:24 Bat-Mobile hey lwo
01:24 Bat-Mobile lwq
01:25 tonsofpcs bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbat
01:25 Bat-Mobile Hooray!  I get to use the words "hillbilly polymorphism" in a paper.
01:25 lwq1996 what?
01:26 astro73|mal na na na na na na na na na na na na BatSteve!
01:26 lwq1996 .g hillbillypolymorphism
01:26 BotSteve lwq1996: No results found for 'hillbillypolymorphism'.
01:26 masterofmonks Bat-Mobile: Want to play a game of hillbillies and aliens?
01:26 lwq1996 .g hillbilly polymorphism
01:26 BotSteve lwq1996: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/928637/powerdesigner-assign-a-triggertemplate-to-a-trigger-through-vbscript
01:26 Bat-Mobile Python.  It doesn't support function overloading, so you have to do it the hillbilly way
01:26 lwq1996 oh
01:27 Bat-Mobile lots of "if type" statements
01:27 astro73|mal Bat-Mobile, you mean multiple signatures for the same name?
01:28 Bat-Mobile Right.  fibonacci(list)  being a different function than  fibonacci(int)
01:28 tonsofpcs yawn
01:28 Bat-Mobile etc
01:28 astro73|mal yeahh.... that would require actually caring about types with names
01:28 Bat-Mobile hi tons
01:28 Bat-Mobile Right.
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01:30 astro73|mal although I'm wondering about Vala for some of my dev
01:31 Bat-Mobile Haven't heard of it.
01:31 astro73|mal it's basically C with GObject-based OOP
01:31 Bat-Mobile Huh
01:32 astro73|mal gnome is developing it to bring modern language features to GTK development without runtimes, layers, or frameworks
01:33 astro73|mal it seems decent enough. It has reference counting, closures, lambda, inner functions, plus all the gobject stuff (signals, OOP, interfaces)
01:34 astro73|mal but as it is, it has no place out side of GTK/Gnome work
01:34 Ponko Bat-Mobile you ever heard of the North London Parachute Club?
01:38 Bat-Mobile Ponko: I have not, sorry
01:38 Bat-Mobile is it what it says on the tin?
01:38 Ponko lol pretty much
01:39 Ponko they do skydiving and the pilot of the plane agreed with you on flying enola gay
01:41 Bat-Mobile :D
01:43 Ponko but not for the same reason lol
01:44 Bat-Mobile Oh?  Why then?
01:44 Ponko he went technical
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01:45 Ponko and how that plane would be somewhat perfect for skydiving
01:46 Bat-Mobile ah
01:46 Bat-Mobile (:
01:47 Ponko and i said that pilots aren't very cooperative and he went yep we sure aren't
01:52 Bat-Mobile ha
01:52 Bat-Mobile its' true
01:53 Ponko like QBs but they ACTUALLY take to the air
01:53 Ponko we do it metaphorically
02:07 Sgt_Lemming lo Bat-Mobile
02:07 Bat-Mobile heyo sarge
02:07 Sgt_Lemming how's it going?
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02:08 Bat-Mobile Goes.  Kinda hungry.
02:08 Bat-Mobile What should I eat?
02:09 Sgt_Lemming A BBC toasted sandwich
02:10 Bat-Mobile Bacon Bacon Chicken?
02:10 Sgt_Lemming Bacon Banana & Cheese
02:10 Bat-Mobile ...really?
02:11 Sgt_Lemming yup
02:11 Sgt_Lemming tis awesome
02:11 Bat-Mobile hm I wonder if I have banana.
02:11 kokona try this bass test but carffule i made a 1000 watt sub explode
02:11 kokona http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaRYK7gFcIc&list=FLtwcIzdHMc88dDNJ9ITJ_BQ&index=2
02:12 Sgt_Lemming has to be thick bread Bat-Mobile!
02:13 Ponko Sgt_Lemming BBC sandwich free of ads and you pay the TV License
02:13 Sgt_Lemming lol
02:14 Bat-Mobile drat
02:14 Bat-Mobile no banana
02:14 Bat-Mobile ):
02:20 Sgt_Lemming worth trying when you get a chance Bat-Mobile
02:20 Bat-Mobile It sounds pretty good
02:20 Bat-Mobile bacon and banana are two of my favorite foods
02:20 Sgt_Lemming heh
02:20 * lwq1996 needs his wannabe
02:22 Sgt_Lemming best way to do it Bat-Mobile is with the like inch thich "cafe" style bread, banana on the bottom, bacon in the middle, cheese on top and then toast in a sandwich press till it's really nice'n'brown
02:22 Sgt_Lemming that way the chese runs through it all and glues the whole thing together
02:24 Bat-Mobile Noted!
02:24 Bat-Mobile Gonna have to try that for sure
02:24 Sgt_Lemming heh
02:24 Sgt_Lemming making me want one now and I am too broke to by the ingredients atm
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02:28 Toastdude Hi
02:28 BotSteve Toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
02:28 BotSteve At 17 Oct 23:00Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell Toastdude http://xkcd.com/965/
02:28 NeWtoz .cmds
02:28 NeWtoz .commands
02:29 Bat-Mobile .help
02:29 Bat-Mobile hm
02:29 Bat-Mobile BotSteve: Help
02:29 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: Hi, I'm a bot. Say ".commands" to me in private for a list of my commands, or see http://inamidst.com/phenny/ for more general details. My owner is BatSteve.
02:29 NeWtoz OH, you changed it
02:29 Bat-Mobile NeWtoz: .commands only works in PM now
02:29 NeWtoz oh, in private
02:30 NeWtoz what is the syntax of the remind command?
02:31 Bat-Mobile .in 10 seconds remind me to do stuff
02:31 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: Okay, will remind in 10 secs
02:31 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: remind me to do stuff
02:31 NeWtoz ah
02:31 NeWtoz .in 10 minutes CHECK YOUR OVEN DUDE, THINGS COULD BE ON FIRE!
02:31 BotSteve NeWtoz: Okay, will remind at 02:42Z
02:33 Ponko umm whats that burning smell???
02:33 NeWtoz acquired taste
02:33 Bat-Mobile (:
02:40 KB3NZQ Cprossu what is the status on stream PC
02:40 Bat-Mobile betcha a dolla that the status is "broke"
02:41 Bat-Mobile in fact
02:41 Bat-Mobile Lab's Live Stream (probably broke): http://goo.gl/WBSiE |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug".  Thank you!
02:41 Bat-Mobile haha
02:41 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream (probably broke): http://goo.gl/WBSiE |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug".  Thank you!
02:41 Bat-Mobile there
02:42 BotSteve NeWtoz: CHECK YOUR OVEN DUDE, THINGS COULD BE ON FIRE!
02:42 Bat-Mobile FIRE
02:42 NeWtoz rodger
02:42 Bat-Mobile THINGS COULD BE ON IT
02:42 NeWtoz roger even
02:42 Bat-Mobile shines the name, shines the name of rodger young....
02:43 * KB3NZQ gibbs slaps Bat-Mobile
02:43 masterofmonks KB3NZQ: any experience with echolink?
02:43 NeWtoz update: food is appropriately cooked
02:43 Bat-Mobile KB3NZQ: you don't like Rodger Young?
02:44 Bat-Mobile http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MEJM0cboDg
02:44 KB3NZQ Bat-Mobile about the stream is that
02:44 Bat-Mobile ah
02:44 Bat-Mobile I can't help you with that
02:44 Bat-Mobile but here
02:44 Bat-Mobile listen to this song about Rodger Young
02:44 Bat-Mobile it will make you feel better.  Or worse.  I don't know which.
02:45 KB3NZQ masterofmonks yes i have a fair bit of experience with echolink
02:45 masterofmonks On android?
02:45 KB3NZQ no
02:45 KB3NZQ mac and win
02:45 masterofmonks Hmm.
02:46 masterofmonks Here is my thing, I am just not entirely certain how the actual conversating part works.
02:46 masterofmonks I mean obviously had I a hardare radio, I would tune to the appropriate band, listen and send out a CQ
02:47 masterofmonks hardware*
02:47 KB3NZQ ok are you meaning on andorid? or just on the pc
02:47 masterofmonks I am using it on my phone.
02:47 NeWtoz sound a server, then talk
02:48 * NeWtoz gets his phone
02:48 masterofmonks Haven't tried it on the PC
02:48 KB3NZQ i don't know a thing about it on droid cause i do not have an andorid device
02:50 masterofmonks I only recently have one worth a damn
02:50 masterofmonks As in Saturday.
02:50 masterofmonks Bought an Optimus V
02:51 KB3NZQ o ok
02:51 masterofmonks $100
02:52 masterofmonks Which for the price is freaking awesome.
02:52 Bat-Mobile dinnertime
02:52 Bat-Mobile back in a bit
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02:52 KB3NZQ well i'm on my dad's plan and he will not let me have a smartphone so i have to get my own plan which i can't affort
02:52 KB3NZQ afford
02:52 masterofmonks $35 a month.
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02:54 KB3NZQ lets see i have 210+150 a month in car loan and insurance and more student loans and gas for the car
02:54 masterofmonks I am familiar with the expenses of adult life.
02:55 KB3NZQ i have $10 now and i have scrap to take and cash in
02:56 KB3NZQ the car needs rear pads and roters body work and it is misfireing plugs for my bar are $8 a peace and my car is a v6  wires are $60 for a set and my coil pack is $150
02:58 KB3NZQ well i'm going to bed i have to help my dad tomorrow to get a roof back on a building (approx 70 sq ft) before the rain comes
02:58 KB3NZQ so night
02:58 masterofmonks Have fun.
02:58 KB3NZQ it is a rubber roof
02:59 NeWtoz ok, finally got wireless working
02:59 masterofmonks Yay
03:00 NeWtoz under the Stations tab, click locations, then what area you want to connect to, then so on and so on
03:02 masterofmonks Were I going to talk to you I would go to?
03:02 NeWtoz like a private converstation or on a repeater?
03:02 masterofmonks Probably the latter.
03:03 NeWtoz ok, I just connected to the w8lrc-r, it's under United States - Michigan - Area 8
03:03 NeWtoz then scroll down until you find it
03:05 NeWtoz what is your callsign?
03:05 masterofmonks And I am KK4DBV
03:05 NeWtoz kk, I'm kd8nrp
03:05 NeWtoz you just kerchucked
03:05 NeWtoz I think
03:06 masterofmonks Kerchucked?
03:06 NeWtoz keyed the repeater, did you just hit transmit and then stopped?
03:07 masterofmonks Not that I am aware.
03:07 NeWtoz oh, then it was someone else
03:07 NeWtoz I guess I could say something...
03:08 NeWtoz ok, did you just hear stuff?
03:08 NeWtoz OH YOU DID
03:09 NeWtoz any other questions?
03:10 NeWtoz I thik that is about the first time I've used the app to talk
03:10 masterofmonks That is the my first QSO
03:11 masterofmonks It was cheaper to get the phone than a radion that could do the same thing.
03:11 masterofmonks radio*
03:11 NeWtoz neat-o
03:11 NeWtoz no longer a virgin
03:12 masterofmonks Now I need to find an area map
03:12 masterofmonks Ah, there we go.
03:12 masterofmonks Ok, and now off to bed.
03:13 Ponko NeWtoz no longer a virgin for what?
03:13 NeWtoz I made my first contact using echolink also
03:13 Ponko ahhh ok
03:13 NeWtoz since I didn't have a radio at first
03:13 masterofmonks Ponko: radio contact.
03:13 masterofmonks Yeah they aren't cheap.
03:14 Ponko what you said was the first thing i saw when i came back soo yeah.....
03:14 NeWtoz contacted a person up in the upper peninsula of Michigan
03:14 masterofmonks I am more interested in QRP than the big radios.
03:14 Ponko oh thats neat :)
03:14 Ponko but i yeah never mind lol
03:15 masterofmonks But for that, I need to get my work bench put together, so it's just a matter of timing and stuff.
03:16 masterofmonks Anyway, night.
03:16 lwq1996 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8YVeMwhDNI&feature=related
03:19 Ponko night mom
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03:24 Ponko STEVE
03:24 Bat-Mobile yo
03:24 Bat-Mobile I'm back
03:24 Toastdude WB Steve!
03:24 Ponko gotta love some SNES American Football
03:24 lwq1996 MUNCHKIN SUICIDE
03:25 LemPhone lol
03:26 lwq1996 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8YVeMwhDNI&feature=related
03:26 lwq1996 what thats a real video
03:26 Bat-Mobile The wizard of oz scene?
03:27 Bat-Mobile I thought it was a prop that fell at the end
03:27 lwq1996 yes
03:27 lwq1996 look in the backround
03:27 lwq1996 no its a munchkin hanging himself
03:28 egrsteve|away bill hang out here?
03:28 Bat-Mobile .g snopes munchkin hang himself
03:28 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/ozsuicide.asp
03:28 lwq1996 no that is the doctored version...
03:28 lwq1996 the one i show is the original
03:28 lwq1996 they made the thing look like a crane
03:29 lwq1996 streching out its wings
03:29 lwq1996 but in the original its clearly visible
03:33 Bat-Mobile I have doubts about this.  If it's true, what was the actor's name?
03:33 lwq1996 idk
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03:34 Bat-Mobile that's why I don't believe it
03:34 Bat-Mobile if it was a real person killing themselves, you'd have heard of their name, where they were from, etc etc.
03:35 Bat-Mobile I mean, this is the sort of stuff that gets out.
03:35 Katemonster hey steve
03:35 lwq1996 ik but i think its real...
03:35 Bat-Mobile hey kate
03:35 Katemonster .log
03:35 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
03:35 Bat-Mobile we're talking about the munchkin hanging himself in the middle of wizard of oz
03:35 Katemonster oh
03:36 Katemonster yeah, that's an urban legend.
03:36 lwq1996 do you think its real
03:36 Katemonster it's a bullshit story
03:36 lwq1996 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8YVeMwhDNI&feature=related
03:36 Katemonster http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/ozsuicide.asp
03:36 lwq1996 thats original video...slowed down and zoomed
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03:37 Katemonster a little research goes a long way, kid.
03:38 Bat-Mobile Actually, I changed my mind.
03:38 lwq1996 ive been researchin git
03:38 Bat-Mobile it is someone hanging themselves
03:38 lwq1996 all of a sudden you change your mind
03:38 astro73|mal good for you. git is good stuff
03:38 Bat-Mobile My guess is it's Buzz Aldrin, on the soundstage where they filmed the moon landing.
03:39 Katemonster LMAO
03:39 lwq1996 -,-
03:39 Cprossu holy shit guys
03:39 Katemonster nah, one of the Apollo 1 astronauts
03:39 lwq1996 you're an ass
03:39 Bat-Mobile :P
03:39 astro73|mal what an unpleasant oxymoron
03:39 Bat-Mobile hi Cprossu
03:39 LemPhone lo cprossu
03:39 Cprossu just patched a router  (with dd-wrt) to an open AP... SNR IS 3!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:40 Cprossu and somehow this connection is working!
03:40 LemPhone heh
03:40 * Katemonster is wondering where her Jessica is
03:40 Cprossu teamviewer can sure put up with a lot of shit!
03:40 lwq1996 ik
03:41 LemPhone maybe it's 3B instead of 3dB cprossu?
03:41 Cprossu SNR is 2 now!!!!!
03:41 astro73|mal who uses B?
03:41 Cprossu no I have a 1% signal qual
03:41 LemPhone heh
03:41 astro73|mal (also, what would a B be? dB is kinda f'ed up)
03:41 Cprossu now it's zero
03:42 LemPhone B = Bel
03:42 LemPhone dB = deciBel
03:42 astro73|mal LemPhone, I caught that
03:42 LemPhone 1/10th of a Bel
03:42 Cprossu I jacked my transmit signal to 125mw though
03:42 astro73|mal but it's exponential
03:42 LemPhone it is a valid measurement, just rarely used
03:42 Cprossu can anyone tell me what it's safe to run a wrt54gsv5 at?
03:43 LemPhone nfi
03:43 Cprossu I do have a 1.6A 12vdc wallwart in it though
03:43 Cprossu damn ynos ain't here
03:44 LemPhone open it up and whack a heatsink on anything hot
03:44 LemPhone and mebe a fan
03:44 astro73|mal what's the original wart rated for? 12v  sounds right, though
03:44 Cprossu like 900ma
03:44 Cprossu @ 12v
03:45 Cprossu I still can't belive this shit
03:45 astro73|mal oh, then your wart should be fine
03:45 astro73|mal (i've ran routers off computer PSUs before)
03:45 LemPhone my router runs off a computer psu... cause it's a smoothwall
03:46 LemPhone ADSL2+ PCI card modem in it
03:46 LemPhone phone in one side, network in the other
03:46 astro73|mal I mean I drilled a holes in the side of a case and bolted a router to a computer
03:46 * LemPhone nods
03:47 LemPhone I was kidding astro
03:47 astro73|mal ok
03:47 Cprossu lol
03:47 LemPhone trying to replace it with an x86 based HP thin client
03:48 Cprossu if this picture ever uploads you'll get a laugh
03:48 LemPhone but I need the pci card cage for it, and a 44 pin ide cable
03:48 LemPhone bout to log off cprossu
03:48 LemPhone nearly at my destination
03:48 Cprossu lol LemPhone
03:48 LemPhone pm it to me at home perhaps?
03:49 Cprossu I could sneeze and lose this inet connection
03:49 LemPhone heh
03:50 * LemPhone tickles cprossu's nose with a feather
03:50 LemPhone oop, gotta log off
03:50 Cprossu AHHHH CHOOO!
03:50 LemPhone later all
03:51 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums ( http://goo.gl/t0vze ).  New posts made by: egrsteve on CCTV Baluns
03:52 Cprossu hey egrsteve|away I found internet @ 3SNR!!!!!
03:52 Cprossu OMG I think I'm on the same terrible SMC router the geek group has
03:53 Cprossu *meanning router/cable modem 'business gateway' built by SMC... yep same admin/pass
03:53 * Cprossu is glad he did not bring any sharp objects with him
03:57 Cprossu egrsteve|away: the teamviewer pw on the stream computer must have changed from what i itt was, pm me if you know what the unattended pw was set to
03:58 egrsteve|away I'm home now and don't know
03:59 Cprossu fair enough, were you the one that setup teamviewer?
04:00 Cprossu did you go through that 'unattended acces' thing?
04:00 Cprossu egrsteve|away I am running on an inet conn with 3db SNR! ha ha ha ahahah
04:02 egrsteve|away Cprossu check your PMs
04:13 Ponko morning/night all
04:13 lwq1996 night ponko
04:13 Ponko cya lee
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04:16 egrsteve|away morning ponko
04:16 lwq1996 he went to bed
04:17 Cprossu whiips I sneezed.
04:18 Cprossu now I have 2 snr but I am back online
04:18 Cprossu (checking PM
04:18 Cprossu thanks testing now
04:19 Cprossu tha nk you egrsteve|away that worked!
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04:20 egrsteve|away good
04:21 Hackbat who here has a kindle?
04:21 lwq1996 hi hackbat
04:21 lwq1996 why?
04:21 egrsteve|away how long from a working stream do you think you are?
04:21 Hackbat http://myweb.msoe.edu/hufw/cake/
04:22 Cprossu I need to remember my adobe.live account then We'll be running
04:22 Hackbat works on the kindle
04:22 Cprossu perhaps I'll reg a new one
04:22 Hackbat to a degree :P
04:22 Bat-Mobile Hackbat: me
04:22 egrsteve|away sounds good, you should get stand by bars and I don't know if any audio
04:22 Hackbat it'd work better if it was black on white
04:23 Hackbat Bat-Mobile, see above link
04:23 Bat-Mobile already did
04:23 Cprossu I think if I can get 6snr on this inet connectio, it will even be bearable
04:23 Bat-Mobile watching now
04:23 astro73|mal Hackbat, black on white is an atrocity for terminals.
04:23 Hackbat yes but the kindle NEEDS that
04:23 Hackbat lol
04:24 Bat-Mobile My terminal is black on very soft yellow
04:24 Hackbat Orange On Black
04:24 astro73|mal i'm old school. black background, period.
04:24 astro73|mal although I do white text.
04:25 Bat-Mobile I do green-on-black sometimes when I want to Matrix it up a bit, but that's usually just to impress shoulder-surfers
04:26 Cprossu Amber for the win.
04:26 Bat-Mobile amber on black...ooh
04:26 Hackbat I do a Orange, orange
04:27 Hackbat it's on wikipedia
04:27 Hackbat hold on
04:27 Hackbat FFA500
04:28 Cprossu wow 0 snr and still a connection how is that possible?!
04:28 astro73|mal Cprossu, i think it's definition of "noise" might be off
04:28 egrsteve|away that is about the theretical limit, noise is equal to signal
04:30 Cprossu it hit -3 for a second there
04:31 Cprossu ok enough antenna tweaking it's livable now
04:34 lwq1996 gah chrome is a fag
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04:35 LemPhone sigh, one more hoop jumped through on the route to becoming gainfully unemployed.
04:35 Bat-Mobile Congrats?
04:35 LemPhone just ridiculous how much paperwork and stuff I have to do for it
04:35 Bat-Mobile There is really only one hoop that you need to go through, it is called "Take a leak on your boss's desk".  After that everything happens very quickly.
04:36 LemPhone that's ungainfully unemployed
04:36 Bat-Mobile ah
04:36 Bat-Mobile I missed that
04:36 LemPhone doing all this to get moneys from the gubernments while I am not working
04:38 LemPhone glad I can do it, but lots of hoops to jump through to do it.
04:40 Bat-Mobile ::nod::
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04:41 LemPhone suppose it stops people using it as a paid holiday or something
04:41 LemPhone they get right up you if you go overseas while on it
04:53 Hackbat I have a cat trapping my right hand
04:53 lwq1996 why?
04:55 Bat-Mobile it is a cat.  why not?
04:58 Bat-Mobile good plan lwq
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05:20 lwq1996 hi
05:29 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChNbltG5p2E&
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05:38 Thermoelectric BotSteve: tell Seroster: Really? Cool! Apparently my work may be getting new microwaves soon, so I might be able to get the old ones which I believe have 2 MOT's in each of them. :D
05:38 BotSteve Thermoelectric: I'll pass that on when Seroster is around.
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05:47 LemPhone mmmm, sitting outside a cafe drinking a nice hot cappucino
05:47 LemPhone nice day here atmm
05:47 LemPhone .weather ybbn
05:47 BotSteve Cloudy, 21℃, 1028mb, Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - YBBN 05:30Z
05:47 exor674 .w 2
05:47 BotSteve "Year 2 (II) was a common year starting on Sunday or Monday (link will display the full calendar) of the Julian calendar (the sources differ, see leap year error for further information) and a common year starting on Sunday of the Proleptic Julian calendar." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2
05:48 LemPhone dunno how it calls this cloudy, I can't see a cloiud in the sky
05:58 Hackbat oh god I know what's the next thing I want to build is
05:59 LemPhone mmm?
06:00 Hackbat A big old fashion radio
06:00 Cprossu hrmmm
06:00 Hackbat I'll add in bulbs and such to give it a look of having vaccum tubes
06:00 Hackbat have a yellow LED that dims along to the music on the front of ir
06:01 LemPhone why not just build a vacuum tube radio?
06:01 Hackbat vaccum tubes are expensive
06:01 LemPhone true dat
06:01 Hackbat and you have to replace them
06:01 LemPhone you know you can get LED tape now as well?
06:02 LemPhone awesome stuff
06:02 Hackbat si
06:02 Hackbat but I figure I;d use 15 watt bulbs in a few places
06:03 Hackbat maybe use some triacs to slowly bring them up to full brightness
06:04 LemPhone eh, LED's and PWM FTW!
06:04 Hackbat eh
06:04 Hackbat it'd be closer to a real Vaccum tube
06:05 Hackbat I'm covered in cats
06:05 Hackbat :\
06:07 Cprossu that's not a bad thing!
06:18 lwq1996 later people
06:18 lwq1996 i go bed now
06:19 lwq1996 later cprossu, later hackbat
06:19 Hackbat adios
06:20 Hackbat http://www.sundialwire.com/2-conductor18-gaugegoldpulleycordcotton-bythefoot.aspx
06:20 Hackbat get 10 feet of this for hte power coard :3
06:20 Hackbat *cord
06:20 Hackbat would add that extra bit of style to it
06:21 lwq1996 lol
06:21 lwq1996 not ul listed tho...i woulnt buy
06:22 Hackbat it's going to be the power coard to a radio
06:22 Hackbat *cord
06:22 lwq1996 still
06:22 Hackbat I DOUBT I'll set anything on fire
06:22 Hackbat also of curse it's not UL rated
06:22 Hackbat *course
06:22 lwq1996 ive seen regular cords under its load capacity start fires...and they were good cords
06:23 Hackbat meg
06:23 Hackbat *meh
06:23 lwq1996 well i should go to bed...i got school
06:24 Hackbat adios
06:24 lwq1996 i need to learn boring stuff
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06:56 Xela Someone you follow, The Geek Group, just went live 'The Geek Group Live!' on Justin.tv! Go check it out!
06:57 Xela Doesn't seem like they are actually streaming anything, though
07:01 Cprossu working on it
07:02 Cprossu I just got the interim computer back online
07:04 Cprossu and I am doing it with a shitastic inet conn. sighning off, Cprossu
07:16 Xela great work, thanks for working on it :)
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12:51 Hackbat Can I get some advice from someone who knows servers?
12:51 Hackbat linux to be exact
12:52 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 10-17-11 Radio Station, WiFi, and Security Cameras http://youtu.be/IpK53QXk17g
13:12 BotSteve wannabe1987: cartown
13:18 Hackbat O.o
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13:18 wannabe1987 question for the iBoys - good recommendations for voice activated software for a mac?
13:19 Hackbat botsteve just said something to you
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13:19 Hackbat <BotSteve> wannabe1987: cartown
13:19 wannabe1987 ah yes he did.  thanks Hackbat
13:19 Hackbat wtf
13:19 wannabe1987 ?
13:19 Hackbat He says something and you appear
13:19 Hackbat black magic
13:19 wannabe1987 no, i had a question to ask
13:20 wannabe1987 question for the iBoys - good recommendations for voice activated software for a mac?
13:49 Cprossu yNnos|away you might laugh at this but I've got internet! at 3db SNR, sometimes dropping to -3
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13:51 Cprossu my connection has more to do with me sneezing and the rain falling outside than anything else lol
13:52 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos:
13:52 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos: Mini Musical Tesla Coil http://youtu.be/LhYW6SBbQ5Q
13:52 Cprossu and wannabe1987 would laugh because I am trying to watch the captains blog in a stutterring 240p
13:52 wannabe1987 ...
13:54 wannabe1987 why 240p?
13:54 wannabe1987 even i can watch it higher than that!
13:54 Cprossu keyword is trying. because my current inet connection is bouncing off of at least 4 houdrd
13:54 Cprossu *houses
13:54 wannabe1987 ah
13:55 Cprossu my signal to noise ratio is 0 right now o)o
13:56 Cprossu ask tonsofpcs what that means heh
13:58 wannabe1987 .c 1year to minutes
13:58 BotSteve 525 948.766 minutes
14:00 * wannabe1987 has three vids to catch up on
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14:03 wannabe1987 hi LinuxH4x0r
14:04 LinuxH4x0r hi
14:10 wannabe1987 how are you?
14:11 LinuxH4x0r another shit day in suck city
14:11 LinuxH4x0r working on a physics lab
14:11 wannabe1987 sounds horrible
14:14 Sgt_Lemming ello all
14:14 wannabe1987 LEMMING!
14:14 Sgt_Lemming lo wannabe1987, howsit?
14:14 wannabe1987 not bad, not good.  fucking COLD out at night and i'm sleeping in my car.....BR!
14:15 Sgt_Lemming err why?
14:15 wannabe1987 homeless
14:16 Sgt_Lemming ouch
14:16 Sgt_Lemming sorry to hear that
14:17 LinuxH4x0r aww that sucks
14:17 wannabe1987 yeah.  happens.  need job to get apt, haven't worked in almost a year o.O
14:17 Cprossu lol only 2m 44s into it.30 seconds of video for every 4 minutes of buffer
14:17 Sgt_Lemming well if you were in .au, I'd gladly let you couch surf here
14:17 wannabe1987 :)
14:17 LinuxH4x0r same if you where in NM
14:17 LinuxH4x0r but its still warm here you wouldn't have to lol
14:17 wannabe1987 lol
14:49 yNnos|away Cprossu wha?
14:49 Sgt_Lemming oi Cprossu, what was that screenshot you were talking about earlier?
14:49 yNos just got out of a 4 hour meeting and want to gtfo.
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14:53 wannabe1987 hi tgg|ajprog :D
14:53 tgg|ajprog hi wannabe1987
14:53 wannabe1987 how are you?
14:54 tgg|ajprog good
14:54 tgg|ajprog and you?
14:54 wannabe1987 good
14:54 LinuxH4x0r bleh
14:54 LinuxH4x0r I think this lab is going to have to be late
14:55 LinuxH4x0r no way this is getting done by 10
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14:59 yNos ajprog_laptop !!!
14:59 yNos i think i will head down there in a bit
15:00 yNos Is amy there??
15:00 yNos if so i will bring coffee
15:01 wannabe1987 hi yNos
15:02 yNos hiya wannabe1987
15:02 Sgt_Lemming lo btw yNos, how's things?
15:02 yNos Life is good
15:02 Sgt_Lemming cool
15:02 yNos last night was a late night at tgg(for me anyway)
15:03 Sgt_Lemming cool
15:03 yNos got all of the APs programmed
15:03 Sgt_Lemming I had a good one last night, pulled a fully working pc out of a dumpster :-P
15:03 Sgt_Lemming noice
15:03 Sgt_Lemming what AP's?
15:03 yNos with a lazy config. it will be better configged when we get all the VLANs setup
15:03 yNos did you watch the captain's blog from yesterday?
15:04 Sgt_Lemming nope, will watch it now
15:04 yNos cisco 1231s
15:04 yNos 12 of them
15:04 Sgt_Lemming nice!
15:04 yNos and a fibreswitch to use as our core.
15:04 Sgt_Lemming v nice
15:04 Sgt_Lemming I personally prefer 3com AP's as they have some neat features
15:05 Sgt_Lemming but cisco are decent
15:07 Cprossu hey yNos
15:08 Sgt_Lemming cprossu... screenshot from earlier?
15:08 Cprossu stream computer was streaming
15:08 yNos wha?
15:08 Cprossu not sure what though. mc computer is offline to me
15:08 yNos you are at tgg now?
15:08 Cprossu no
15:08 yNos oh
15:09 Cprossu steve got it up with my old stuff
15:09 yNos cooool
15:09 Cprossu I did drivers and fmle last night
15:09 yNos fmle?
15:09 Cprossu somehow
15:09 yNos fml extra?
15:09 Cprossu flash media live encoder o
15:09 yNos ahh
15:09 Cprossu or encoder live
15:09 Cprossu whatever it is
15:10 Sgt_Lemming yNos, the 3com enterprise level AP's I have here
15:10 yNos windows only flash?
15:10 Cprossu they have osx I think
15:10 Cprossu blehhh
15:10 Cprossu the issue is the blackmagic
15:10 Sgt_Lemming do some very cool stuff for multi AP environments
15:10 Cprossu the linux drivers apparently suck
15:10 yNos i am paartial to cisco... only because that is the only non-opensource ap i have used.
15:10 Sgt_Lemming you hook one up and designate it as a master
15:10 Cprossu oh yNos
15:10 Cprossu 0 SNR right now
15:11 yNos can do the same with cisco
15:11 Cprossu on the ap I am connected to
15:11 Cprossu hahahahah
15:11 yNos where are you getting your snr stats?
15:11 astro73 Cprossu: that thing is connected by magic
15:11 Cprossu dd-wrt
15:11 yNos stealing wifi?
15:11 Sgt_Lemming then every other 3com AP on the network copies it's settings automatically from that one
15:11 Sgt_Lemming and they do automatic handover from AP to AP which is seamless for the client
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15:11 Cprossu I have a wrt54gs v5 attached as a bridge to a house 2 streets down
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15:12 astro73 Sgt_Lemming: why isn't this a standard feature?
15:12 yNos i like having it setup to tftp MAC_ADDRESS.conf from the next_server in dhcp.
15:12 Cprossu signal is -90 and noise is -90
15:12 Sgt_Lemming astro73, because it requires some smarts to do
15:12 astro73 for the user or maker?
15:12 Sgt_Lemming the AP
15:12 Cprossu yNos I had to really tweak the hell outa the transmit power
15:12 Sgt_Lemming the AP needs a half decent cpu onboard to co-ordinate it
15:12 Cprossu not too much not too little
15:13 Sgt_Lemming and then someone has to write the code to do it as well
15:13 Cprossu and it's....well.... still an unstable mess but thankfully teamviewer can remain connected through unstable messes
15:13 yNos so when are you coming in to tgg?
15:14 yNos Cprossu: ^^
15:14 Cprossu it's wet and cold here iirc. Leaving by car to ft wayne on friday and setting to be there Sat
15:14 Cprossu .tfw 46261
15:14 BotSteve Unknown location
15:14 Cprossu .tfw 46260
15:14 BotSteve 46°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT AND WET IN Indianapolis, IN!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
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15:14 Cprossu .tfw 85021
15:14 BotSteve 77°F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Phoenix, AZ!  'I can't  believe it's not porn!'
15:14 yNos lol
15:14 yNos ALRIGHT AND WET
15:14 Cprossu yeah, right =P
15:14 Sgt_Lemming astro73 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11F <--- that's the protocol it uses
15:15 astro73 Sgt_Lemming: I would consider automatic passing to be a killer feature.
15:15 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc brisbane
15:15 BotSteve 17°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Brisbane, AS!  'At least you aren't living in a small town in Alaska'
15:15 yNos Sgt_Lemming: hostapD is a nice proto to use
15:15 yNos makes life easy
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15:15 Cprossu but yeah looking at a Saturday arrival
15:15 yNos i wish the ciscos supported it.
15:15 Cprossu yNos package of goodness from newegg due to arrive Wed.
15:16 yNos badass
15:16 yNos i wont be here though
15:16 yNos i will let them know not to open it till you get here.
15:16 Cprossu does chris know I am coming yet?
15:16 yNos i dont know
15:16 Cprossu if he doesn't that's fine
15:16 yNos i think so
15:16 Cprossu xD
15:16 Cprossu but meh, everything looks killer
15:17 Cprossu I can't believe a scrapper took the time to undo the seal on that transformer outside though
15:17 Sgt_Lemming it is pretty amazing though
15:18 yNos they wanted to get the core inside..
15:18 yNos saw the oil and said fckthat
15:18 yNos Sgt_Lemming: http://undeadly.org/cgi?action=article&amp;sid=20051008150710
15:20 Sgt_Lemming yeah, I was reading about it
15:21 SparkyProjects yNos, seeing as all the clamps are missing, i  wonder if they were stuck to the lid as they lifted it (paint), seeing the oil i wonder if they dropped the clamps inside
15:21 Sgt_Lemming might have taken them thinking they were worth something
15:21 yNos dont know.. the oil is now contaminated though
15:22 Sgt_Lemming although I think they dropped a lot of the clamps on the ground though right?
15:23 SparkyProjects I think i would drop a good magnet fixed to a rod inside the tank, they would likely be round the edge if anywhere
15:23 SparkyProjects The bolts  were there on  the ground, don't think the clamps were
15:23 Sgt_Lemming kk
15:23 LinuxH4x0r http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/for/2649821533.html
15:23 LinuxH4x0r want!
15:24 Sgt_Lemming do want
15:25 SparkyProjects Chris should get some sort of supply wired up, safe as long as the covers are in place, would be the scrappers problem if they removed the covers again
15:25 LinuxH4x0r not the prettiest deuce but 1k is pretty cheap
15:25 Sgt_Lemming indeed
15:26 LinuxH4x0r i could scrap the unnecessary parts for more than that
15:26 Sgt_Lemming the van body would be freaking awesome thoug
15:26 LinuxH4x0r http://www.bangshift.com/blog/RacingJunk-Find-A-1972-Deuce-and-a-Half-on-53-inch-Tires.html
15:26 LinuxH4x0r yeah
15:27 LinuxH4x0r Imagine the look on my mom's face when I come home with that
15:30 Cprossu imagine your face when she kicks you out!
15:30 LinuxH4x0r lol
15:31 LinuxH4x0r Thats why I have my own house to park it at
15:31 Cprossu that's a good plan
15:31 LinuxH4x0r I don't think I'd care if I got kicked out I'd have a house on the back of my truck XD
15:31 LinuxH4x0r brb
15:32 Cprossu lol now I have to make this dial up modem work on windows 7 o_O
15:32 LinuxH4x0r got to go to physics class
15:32 LinuxH4x0r have fun with that!
15:32 Cprossu which I just downloaded drivers for through a 0SNR wifi connection
15:32 LinuxH4x0r 0snr?
15:33 Cprossu it's hit -3 before too
15:33 Cprossu as in -95db signal -95db noise
15:34 Cprossu whatever that means
15:35 Cprossu well I am off to brunch
15:35 Cprossu later yNos laster egrsteve|away
15:36 yNos later
15:36 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve stream's streaming stuff since last night, don't know what though, and the jupiter computer is down acc'd to teamviewer so I couldn't switch anything
15:36 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
15:36 yNos i am off to tgg in a bit too.
15:37 yNos cabling madness ensues!
15:37 Cprossu make sure nothing asploded in MC when you get a breather
15:37 Cprossu I sure hate it when things asplode in mc @ yNos xD
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15:40 LinuxH4x0r back
15:41 Cprossu gone!
15:48 westmi ynos i might show up what ya doin?
15:48 yNos running catV
15:48 yNos not all that exciting
15:48 yNos but needed.
15:48 westmi is ajprog_laptop there too?
15:48 yNos yup
15:49 westmi ok
15:49 yNos if you have a 48v wall wart, could you bring that?
15:49 yNos we need to setup some APs to do site surveys
15:49 westmi crap no what is that?
15:49 Sgt_Lemming 48 volt dc power supply
15:49 yNos a 48 volt dc power supply
15:50 yNos thank Sgt_Lemming
15:50 Sgt_Lemming np
15:50 westmi hmm dont think so..i'll look at what I got though what is it for?
15:50 yNos the only ps we have for them right now - 2 POE switches.
15:50 yNos for the access points
15:51 westmi ah
15:51 yNos it is something you likely wouldnt have.. was just grasping at straws
15:51 Sgt_Lemming they don't have a dc input for local power yNos?
15:51 yNos they do.. 48v
15:51 Sgt_Lemming oh
15:51 Sgt_Lemming wow that sucks
15:51 yNos yeah
15:51 Sgt_Lemming my 3com ones have 12 local input
15:51 Sgt_Lemming 12v even
15:52 yNos most stuff does, 48v was an option.. out in the plants we have patch panels and 48v batt backups.
15:52 Sgt_Lemming kk
15:52 yNos daisy chained throughout the patch panel
15:53 Sgt_Lemming 48v is the voltage POE uses, so probably pretty easy for them to do
15:53 yNos so if there is a power blip, it doesnt take the cisco standart 3-10 minutes to start up.
15:53 Sgt_Lemming heh
15:53 yNos alright
15:53 yNos time to head in
15:53 yNos later all
15:53 Sgt_Lemming l8r
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16:20 Katemonster hey angy
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16:29 * Sgt_Lemming hands Katemonster a Knights Armament M110 SASS and a box of match grade tungsten tip teflon coated armor piercing rounds
16:29 Sgt_Lemming so who's your first targete kate? :-P
16:29 Katemonster kokona.
16:29 Sgt_Lemming lol
16:30 Sgt_Lemming oh I should mention it's the silenced version
16:30 Katemonster second would probably be seroster
16:30 Katemonster i don't like the KAC SASS though, i'd rather have the ArmaLite
16:31 Sgt_Lemming link?
16:31 * Katemonster goes looking for it
16:32 Katemonster http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.aspx?item=10SBF&amp;ReturnUrl=Categories.aspx?Category=f4bd4a13-55d1-41aa-aea0-49488ec48776
16:32 Katemonster KAC got the contract I think mainly because the US military was already using SR-25 in smaller numbers anyway
16:33 Katemonster but that was ArmaLite's submission.
16:33 Katemonster more durable and slightly more reliable than the KAC, and with factory 25 round mags.
16:33 Sgt_Lemming eh, KAC SASS is lighter, I'd rather that
16:34 Katemonster personally, weight isn't my number one concern on a sniper rifle
16:34 * Katemonster shrug
16:34 Sgt_Lemming it's not my number one, but it's up there
16:34 Katemonster i didn't come here to talk about guns though.
16:35 Sgt_Lemming being able to engage and then displace is important
16:35 Katemonster unless you wanna buy an M4.
16:35 Sgt_Lemming love too, don't have the money though (quit my job) and not allowed to own one for love nor money here
16:36 Katemonster i know :P
16:36 Katemonster Oz has shitty gun laws.
16:36 Katemonster could be worse though.  you could be in England.
16:36 Katemonster ...or Chicago.
16:37 Sgt_Lemming chicago...?
16:37 Katemonster yep.
16:37 SparkyProjects Nothing wrong with UK gun laws
16:37 Katemonster that depends on personal opinion.
16:38 SparkyProjects I don't have to carry a gun to protect myself from someone carrying a gun :P
16:38 Katemonster whatever.
16:38 Katemonster seriously though, i didn't come here to discuss or debate gun stuff.  i put up with quite enough of that in the rest of my life.  :/
16:38 SparkyProjects And there are places (ranges) where you can use guns
16:42 Katemonster mr. pilot teacher man needs an IRC terminal in the cockpit.
16:42 SparkyProjects You learning to fly ?
16:43 Katemonster no.  i'd love to, but i ain't got the money.
16:43 Katemonster i just want to bother batsteve.
16:43 SparkyProjects ah
16:43 Katemonster i actually have a few hours of flight training in a helicopter
16:43 Katemonster 300CB
16:44 Katemonster :(  i miss doing that.
16:44 SparkyProjects If you ever get the chance, fly a glider, greatest feeling i've ever had in the air
16:44 Katemonster you aren't part of the mile high club then?
16:44 Katemonster :P
16:44 SparkyProjects Nopr
16:46 tgg|yNos hay yo
16:46 tgg|yNos what it is mofos?
16:46 tgg|yNos lorf
16:46 * Katemonster wants her jessica
16:47 Katemonster hi yNos.
16:47 Katemonster ...
16:47 Katemonster what's the story behind that name anyway?
16:47 SparkyProjects I've had some training in a Chipmonk training plane, and a sedgeberg glider (took controls of both), and had a flight in a britannia
16:48 Katemonster ah
16:51 Katemonster tgg|yNos, what's the story behind your nick and what's the proper way to say it?
16:52 Sgt_Lemming chris always pronounces it like the y is an e
16:52 Sgt_Lemming eNos
16:53 SparkyProjects yNos told chris how it's pronounced in one of the vids
16:53 Sgt_Lemming don't remember that one
16:54 Katemonster yeah, i've been saying ee-nos, with nos pronounced like toss.  i can't imagine that's right though.
16:54 SparkyProjects That's about right
16:54 Katemonster ...either that or winos...
16:54 Katemonster ah
16:55 Katemonster http://youtu.be/IdgKkjM4DTs
16:55 * Katemonster sets self on fire from the shame of even knowing that song exists
16:57 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpK53QXk17g at about 2 mins
16:59 tgg|yNos how is Katemonster today/?
16:59 Katemonster Katemonster is good
16:59 Katemonster ...relatively.
16:59 Katemonster how is yNos today?
17:00 tgg|yNos Craig-Y-Nos is where my great-grandfather is from, he used to call me yNos because my name is Craig.
17:00 Katemonster ah, interesting.  got it.
17:01 tgg|yNos aye-nose is the approx pronouciation
17:01 NeWtoz As a Greg, I get called Craig all the time
17:01 Katemonster ah
17:02 * Katemonster wants a hug
17:02 tgg|yNos westmi: you coming down?
17:02 SparkyProjects Craig-Y-Nos is about half hour from me
17:03 tgg|yNos ydych yn siarad Cymraeg?
17:03 tgg|yNos i do with google's assistance...
17:03 tgg|yNos i only know a few words..
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17:04 Sgt_Lemming_ ok, that was rather fscked
17:04 SparkyProjects No i don't yNos, i'm English :D
17:04 astro73 hello, internet!
17:04 Sgt_Lemming my modem had synced at 1516kbit downstream
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17:04 Sgt_Lemming it normally syncs at >17 mbit
17:04 tgg|yNos i deam of 1516kbit at home :(
17:04 SparkyProjects btw, that place name means 'Rock The Night'
17:04 * astro73 hugs Katemonster
17:05 Katemonster not from you silly
17:05 Katemonster :p
17:05 Katemonster but i appreciate it anyway.
17:05 Seroster Hello SparkyProjects
17:05 BotSteve Seroster: I have the following messages for you:
17:05 BotSteve At 05:38Z, Thermoelectric asked me to tell Seroster Really? Cool! Apparently my work may be getting new microwaves soon, so I might be able to get the old ones which I believe have 2 MOT's in each of them. :D
17:05 tgg|yNos i have heard it translated as crack-the-night
17:05 Sgt_Lemming tgg|yNos, what connection you got at home?
17:05 Katemonster rock the night away?
17:05 astro73 why not? I give good hugs!
17:05 tgg|yNos i am on dsl.. the only thing other than dialup where i live
17:05 SparkyProjects Hi Seroster
17:05 Katemonster wikipedia says "rock of the night"
17:05 Sgt_Lemming what speed though?
17:05 Sgt_Lemming 1516kbit is pretty low for DSL
17:05 Katemonster because i want a hug from Jessica, that's why
17:05 Sgt_Lemming we're on adsl2+
17:06 Katemonster she isn't out of class for the next two and a half hours though :(
17:06 SparkyProjects Craig means rock, y = the, Nos = night
17:06 Katemonster too long to wait for Jess Time.
17:06 SparkyProjects google translate said so
17:06 Katemonster http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig-y-Nos_Castle
17:06 tgg|yNos garndpa's explaination was pre-cristian religions thought you went to an after life through a cack in the night(the milky way)
17:06 astro73 I see.
17:06 tgg|yNos a craig is a crack in a rock ;)
17:07 Seroster BotSteve: tell Thermoelectric TWO mots in one microwave?! If you find a microwave with two mots you have to film it, or take pictures =P   At the moment I got something like 20 MOTs, so I can start experimenting again soon =P
17:07 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when Thermoelectric is around.
17:08 NeWtoz I want a muffin
17:09 tgg|yNos Sgt_Lemming: i am supposed to get a 1.5meg connection, but i dont get much more than 1meg due to being on the fringe of DSL.
17:09 Katemonster i want a poppy seed muffin.
17:09 Katemonster or maybe banana walnut
17:09 Sgt_Lemming ouch dude
17:09 Katemonster ...
17:09 tgg|yNos honey-bran muffins
17:09 tgg|yNos ftw
17:09 Katemonster now i want a muffin and have no money.  thanks a lot, newtoz!  >:(
17:10 Experimentonomen CUPCAKES!!! :P
17:10 Sgt_Lemming we are really looking forward to NBN here tgg|yNos
17:10 NeWtoz no problem
17:10 Sgt_Lemming gigabit to 93% of houses here
17:10 NeWtoz muffins > cupcakes
17:10 astro73 bagels beat muffins.
17:10 astro73 but a good donut trumps them all
17:10 tgg|yNos Due to population density, NBN is not econimically feasible.
17:10 Experimentonomen stinkin rain :/
17:10 tgg|yNos here anyway
17:11 tgg|yNos maybe wireless...
17:11 Sgt_Lemming tgg|yNos, it's more feasible there than it is here
17:11 tgg|yNos how so?
17:11 Sgt_Lemming because here they have to put in so many long distance links to hook up towns in the middle of nowhere.
17:11 tgg|yNos same here...
17:12 Katemonster okay, time for class.
17:12 Sgt_Lemming 4000km links? :-P
17:12 Katemonster ttyl.
17:12 tgg|yNos 80some-odd % of michigan's population lives south of m-46.. less than a ile from my house..
17:12 Experimentonomen tgg|yNos, does chris actually do any work at the lab or does he just run around with the camera laughin @ ppl ?
17:12 Sgt_Lemming lol
17:13 Sgt_Lemming methinks chris would murder you if you asked him that!
17:13 tgg|yNos 60ish% of michigan lives in detroit area
17:13 tgg|yNos Experimentonomen: yes.
17:13 tgg|yNos chris is mgmt...
17:13 Sgt_Lemming have you seen the amount of paint and crap he is covered on a regular basis?
17:13 tgg|yNos he does some stuff, but mostly for the camera.
17:13 tgg|yNos because painting is not much work.
17:14 tgg|yNos it is playing with a glorified squirtgun
17:14 tgg|yNos he is a hell of a people person though
17:14 tgg|yNos we need motivatos.
17:14 tgg|yNos motivators
17:14 Sgt_Lemming heh
17:14 Sgt_Lemming that's something I am pretty good at
17:15 astro73 whips is NOT motivation.
17:15 Sgt_Lemming no, that's after hour fun with the missus :-P
17:16 Experimentonomen tgg|yNos, i wanna come down someday
17:17 Sgt_Lemming I wanna come up, it's a fair journey for me though..
17:19 Experimentonomen wheres u lemm ? aus ?
17:20 astro73 ok, what kind of f'ed up culture do we live in when whips are more associated with sex than oppression?
17:20 tgg|yNos where are you Experimentonomen ?
17:20 Experimentonomen swe :(
17:20 Sgt_Lemming Brisbane, Australia Experimentonomen
17:20 tgg|yNos swe?
17:20 Experimentonomen yes
17:20 Sgt_Lemming about the only person further away than me is CJ Starlet who's in Perth
17:20 tgg|yNos South West Egypt?
17:20 Experimentonomen sweden :(
17:21 tgg|yNos ah
17:22 Experimentonomen aand its rainin here, got all drippin wet walking home from work :/ *sneeze*
17:27 ajprog_laptop .bug
17:27 BotSteve To report website bugs, email:  helpdesk at thegeekgroup dot org
17:29 Experimentonomen i wanna go down to AUS someday too
17:31 astro73 ok, the dalek dresses are getting old
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17:33 westmi tgg|yNos, how long you going to be there?
17:34 tgg|yNos umm
17:34 westmi I gotta get something to est, then I'll be over
17:34 tgg|yNos likely till the gf rages out because i am not home
17:34 westmi *eat
17:34 tgg|yNos so...
17:34 tgg|yNos till 6-7pm
17:34 tgg|yNos maybe
17:34 westmi ok
17:34 tgg|yNos mostlikely
17:34 westmi cool
17:34 astro73 wannabe1987! The .... something of my life! I'll get back to you on what that is.
17:35 wannabe1987 :D  ok
17:35 wannabe1987 going afk for food in a bit.
17:35 wannabe1987 just went swimming....
17:35 ajprog_laptop tgg|yNos: you should have her come down and help amy?
17:35 wannabe1987 did you know, i have better hygeine when HOMELESS vs living with someone :P
17:36 astro73 wannabe1987: did i want to?
17:36 tgg|yNos ajprog_laptop: that would be the master plan... but we will see how it works out
17:36 wannabe1987 no
17:36 wannabe1987 sorry
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17:38 wannabe-afk weird
17:38 wannabe-afk i went to change nick and i got disconnected wtf
17:39 astro73 weird.
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17:43 speedrunnerg55 can someone help me ?
17:43 astro73 nobody can help you. you're helpless. :P
17:43 astro73 what's up?
17:43 speedrunnerg55 ......... :(
17:44 speedrunnerg55 my mic on my headset, i cant get to work
17:44 astro73 do other mics work?
17:44 tgg|yNos you got a multimeter?
17:44 speedrunnerg55 its probably something obvious, but i dont know hwere to look
17:44 speedrunnerg55 yes
17:45 speedrunnerg55 what shoyuld i do with this multimeter?
17:45 astro73 use a meter, scope, or computer software to test that the mic itself is working.
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17:47 dr_jkl yes, i know. yes, it's fixed.
17:47 dr_jkl and yes, when i figure out who did it, i will stomp them
17:48 speedrunnerg55 .....how do i use amulti meter to test a mic?
17:48 speedrunnerg55 tdo i mesure resistance?
17:49 tlockley dr_jkl whats fixed?
17:49 Seroster EY Experimentonomen, summin wrong with sweden!?
17:49 speedrunnerg55 how do i test the mic?
17:49 dr_jkl the site shit itself briefly
17:49 astro73 speedrunnerg55: i think voltage but try both
17:49 Seroster Yer going down man!
17:49 speedrunnerg55 ok iill do that
17:51 tlockley oh
17:52 speedrunnerg55 im picking up some spikes like 7 mili volts
17:52 astro73 tgg|yNos: is 7mV right for a computer mic?
17:53 speedrunnerg55 i duno
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17:53 speedrunnerg55 whatever it is, should be fine, there are protocals for this stuff right?
17:53 speedrunnerg55 its got that pink plug
17:53 astro73 analog is funny
17:54 speedrunnerg55 its not line in
17:54 speedrunnerg55 i know that
17:54 NeWtoz The Geek Group: How to fix everything with just a multimeter
17:54 astro73 but check your volume, mute, and source settings just in case
17:55 speedrunnerg55 is there a place in windows i can do this?
17:55 speedrunnerg55 likke system wide setting, because i cant use this mic anny program i try
17:55 speedrunnerg55 i treied 3
17:55 tlockley have you tried thw windws audio CP
17:55 speedrunnerg55 i did team speak- google talk- and skype
17:56 speedrunnerg55 ?
17:56 tgg|yNos astro73: not sure.
17:56 speedrunnerg55 audio cp?
17:56 tlockley audio controll panel
17:56 tlockley double click onthe speaker in the task bar
17:57 speedrunnerg55 and?
17:57 speedrunnerg55 nothing happened
17:57 tlockley what windows do you have?
17:57 speedrunnerg55 just the slider apeared
17:57 speedrunnerg55 windows 7
17:57 tgg|yNos i was going to saycheck your mic, see how many ohms you can measure.
17:59 * tgg|yNos is bouncing around a lot of sh..tuff right now..
17:59 tgg|yNos lots going on here.
18:00 NeWtoz I should go to the lab so I can jack up my vehicle so I can add some gear oil
18:01 tlockley speedrunnerg55 go to start->control panel->sound and look in the recording tab
18:02 speedrunnerg55 ye its not showwing anny acivity
18:02 speedrunnerg55 it says its unavaluable
18:02 speedrunnerg55 and theres a green check mark on it
18:05 tlockley then it could be an issue with your audio driver or mic
18:06 speedrunnerg55 .... the driver says its funtioning correctly
18:06 tlockley is there a control panel otion for your audio card?
18:06 speedrunnerg55 there is an audio deck program
18:07 tlockley look around, see if there is anything that may work with recording
18:07 speedrunnerg55 that came when i installed the driver to the mobo
18:07 speedrunnerg55 like a program?
18:07 tlockley see if there is any settings in there that deal with the mic
18:08 tlockley yah look in the program that came with the mobo
18:10 speedrunnerg55 there are a lot of options in expert mode....but ughhh
18:10 speedrunnerg55 some bits are kinda tricky
18:11 astro73 speedrunnerg55: did you mess with any of them before?
18:11 speedrunnerg55 maybe??
18:11 speedrunnerg55 idk
18:11 tlockley speedrunnerg55 do you mind letting me on your computer
18:11 speedrunnerg55 ...how?
18:12 tgg|yNos Cprossu: you around?
18:12 speedrunnerg55 u remost assisting?
18:12 tlockley go to assist
18:12 tgg|yNos .lastseen Cprossu
18:12 BotSteve tgg|yNos: I last saw cprossu 2.52 hours ago at 2011-10-18 15:41:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:12:09 UTC
18:12 tgg|yNos bah
18:12 NeWtoz .in 10 minutes OVEN!!
18:12 BotSteve NeWtoz: Okay, will remind at 18:22Z
18:13 tlockley speedrunnerg55 https://www.fastsupport.com/217067877
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18:14 speedrunnerg55 whats that going to do
18:14 tlockley if you run the app it will ask you to let me take control of your computer temporarily
18:14 tlockley and i am going to tinker
18:15 * Katemonster glomps digdug
18:16 tlockley try that
18:16 Katemonster hi speedrunnerg55 :)
18:16 speedrunnerg55 hi
18:16 speedrunnerg55 tthat was web cam
18:17 speedrunnerg55 its sota tryingt to work
18:17 tlockley ok, lemme try something else
18:17 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums ( http://goo.gl/t0vze ).  New posts made by: Tysk on Mini Musical Tesla Coil
18:19 tlockley is the mic part of a headset?
18:19 dr_jkl ok
18:19 dr_jkl the issue with the site has been resolved and should not happen again :D
18:19 tlockley yay
18:20 tlockley an just because i have to ask, how is the forums going?
18:20 dr_jkl tl;dr: google tried to spider the whole members directory and the server went "....whut?"
18:20 speedrunnerg55 the mic is not responding, and when it does i get feedback
18:20 tlockley dr_jkl: lulz
18:20 dr_jkl tlockley: we're doing some migrationstuff with the forums
18:21 tlockley yay
18:21 tlockley speedrunnerg55 there may be an issue with the mic capsule. is it a brand new mic?
18:21 speedrunnerg55 yes
18:21 speedrunnerg55 i got this like 1 day ago
18:22 BotSteve NeWtoz: OVEN!!
18:22 tlockley try quiting all apps that deal with audio in
18:23 Katemonster newtoz: wachacookin?
18:23 speedrunnerg55 man thats painfull
18:23 NeWtoz toast
18:23 speedrunnerg55 kk
18:23 NeWtoz garlic bread without the garlic
18:24 speedrunnerg55 i think thats it,
18:25 speedrunnerg55 i closed everything tha used the mic
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18:26 wannabe1987 speedrunnerg55!
18:27 wannabe1987 .seen speedrunnerg55
18:27 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw speedrunnerg55 0.03 hours ago at 2011-10-18 18:25:21 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:27:14 UTC
18:27 tlockley speedrunnerg55 doing some research
18:28 wannabe1987 o.  ok :(
18:28 tlockley wannabe1987 no, speed is here
18:28 tlockley I am just helping him ATM
18:28 wannabe1987 ik
18:28 wannabe1987 oooo ok
18:28 tlockley and i meant that I am doin research on the prob
18:33 tlockley speedrunnerg55, try giving your computer a reboot if you can. that hopefully will reset your audio driver.
18:34 speedrunnerg55 ok
18:35 speedrunnerg55 also , how big is this program?
18:35 tgg|yNos tlockley, are you the pwerons who said he could terminate fibre for us?
18:35 tlockley which one?
18:35 tgg|yNos **person
18:35 speedrunnerg55 go to assist
18:35 tlockley tgg|yNos no, i wish i knew how to terminate fiber
18:35 tgg|yNos hrm..
18:36 tlockley i can go cat5/cat6 and rg6 in my sleep
18:36 tlockley but thats it
18:36 speedrunnerg55 i can terminate fiber :3, at least i am "certified to"
18:36 tgg|yNos cant remember who said they could get us fiber..
18:36 tgg|yNos how much you charge to do some custom sizes
18:36 speedrunnerg55 imah reboot now brb
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18:41 speedrunnerg55 took me a wile to get back into irc
18:43 tlockley has the mic shownup as not unavailable
18:43 * Cprossu reads his irc log
18:44 speedrunnerg55 wannab`?
18:44 Cprossu back for a bit
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18:44 tlockley hey Cprossu
18:44 speedrunnerg55 no
18:44 speedrunnerg55 no activity tho
18:44 Cprossu what's up tgg|yNos / tgg|ajprog / tggmc ?
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18:45 tlockley hmmmmm, have you tried the mic in the front mic port?
18:45 speedrunnerg55 ugh, the front speaker port dosent work, so i didnt want to use it
18:45 Cprossu windows 7?
18:46 speedrunnerg55 but ill try
18:46 Cprossu @ speedrunnerg55
18:46 speedrunnerg55 yyes
18:46 Cprossu there's a setting burried in either your drivers or the windows sound control panel that switches from front to rear ports
18:46 Cprossu and it's very annoying to find
18:47 speedrunnerg55 or vice versa?
18:47 Cprossu yeah or vice versa
18:48 speedrunnerg55 i guess i gota go diggy diggy?
18:48 Cprossu from the failure method it always seems easier to find if you are switching to the front port, then you forget where it was because it was in a complicated place
18:48 Cprossu and then run into brick walls when you want to use the rear port again
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18:51 tgg|yNos Cprossu: was there something you wanted me to do while i was here?
18:51 tgg|yNos like...
18:51 tgg|yNos up in nle/mc?
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18:53 speedrunnerg55 wannabeeeeeeee
18:56 Cprossu yeah tgg|yNos
18:56 Cprossu I need you to check the jupiter computer (the thinkcentre) attached to the saturn
18:56 Cprossu see if it's still alive
18:57 Cprossu sorry for being 5 minutes late, the wifi at this location pooped out
18:58 Hackbat oooooh
18:58 tgg|yNos np
18:58 Hackbat I just found out I have a Tiny CRT screen I could playing with
18:58 tgg|yNos heading up there now.
18:58 Cprossu cool.
18:58 tgg|yNos Hackbat: nice
18:58 tgg|yNos make an oscope, wouldja?
18:58 Hackbat nah
18:58 tgg|yNos too easy?
18:59 Hackbat it's like the size of a nickel
18:59 tgg|yNos cool
18:59 Hackbat I think
18:59 Hackbat I'm yet to see it
18:59 tgg|yNos afk up to nle
19:01 tggmc it is alive
19:01 * speedrunnerg55 sneaks up behind wannabe and hugs
19:01 Hackbat this could add a nice element to the radio I'm designing
19:01 speedrunnerg55 lol jk
19:01 wannabe1987 o.O
19:01 wannabe1987 yay hugs
19:01 speedrunnerg55 i was joking
19:01 tggmc it thinks it is disco'd
19:01 Cprossu tggmc?
19:02 Cprossu hrmmm
19:02 Cprossu reset the sucker lol
19:02 Cprossu or check the connections
19:02 ajprog_laptop Cprossu: I was up there earlier and the saturn seemed to be fine
19:02 Cprossu I can't get to the computer so I know at least something is up
19:03 ajprog_laptop the cable connected to the blackmagic card didn't look right, but I didn't know how to fix it
19:03 Cprossu also tggmc not sure what's currently 'going out on the stream'
19:03 Cprossu composite to the greeen IN if I recall ajprog_laptop
19:03 tggmc looks like nothing..
19:04 ajprog_laptop I think it is connected to a red coax
19:04 Cprossu yeah it needs to be on a green one
19:04 Cprossu let me tripple check this
19:06 tggmc it is on the green in
19:06 Cprossu tggmc / ajprog_laptop the one the composite needs to be in is "Y in" and it's a green connector.
19:06 Cprossu k
19:07 tggmc Cprossu - tggnetwork on jupiter machine is dark... investigating.
19:07 tggmc is this machine acting like a router?
19:07 Cprossu tggmc it's acting as the bootp server for the jupiter and yeah sort of
19:07 Cprossu the networks have to be isolated
19:08 Cprossu completely
19:08 tggmc is jupiter chatty?
19:08 Cprossu no it just gets easily confused
19:08 Cprossu verrrrry easily confused
19:08 tggmc should we poke a vlan up here to make it less complicated?
19:08 Cprossu no
19:08 tggmc using whatever subnet you want.
19:08 Cprossu I looked into it
19:09 Cprossu if we keep it the way it is we don't have to screw with the config files more
19:09 Cprossu every single thing that I can leave alone in that config file is a good thing
19:09 Cprossu almost like a wild animal zoo
19:10 tggmc ok
19:10 * Cprossu doesn't want to upset the phillips planetary system gods again
19:11 tggmc can you make a google docs viseo thing to show how it is configured/numbered?
19:12 Cprossu good question. tggmc see that toshiba laptop on the top shelf of mc?
19:12 Cprossu it's got everything built into it so you can snoop around if you want to
19:12 Cprossu then again I'll be there soon enough anyway
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19:14 tonsofpcs lol
19:14 * wannabe1987 noms mandarin oranges while ginger sleeps on a cot in the common room of the college :D
19:14 tonsofpcs planetary system gods
19:14 tonsofpcs the planetary system isn't really a planetary system, it IS gods.
19:14 tonsofpcs Jupiter, Saturn, etc :-p
19:16 Cprossu yeah fine
19:16 tonsofpcs also, I think someone did end up sending some 10T switches or hubs with 10base2 ports.  did they show up?
19:16 Cprossu I think I saw them
19:16 Cprossu netgears?
19:16 tonsofpcs idk
19:17 Cprossu blue metal boxes?
19:17 tonsofpcs someone showed up in here and was like "i have these but i doubt they'd need them" and three of us were like "no, send them, really!"
19:17 tggmc the tgg cable on the jupiter system was schackered.
19:17 Cprossu he unwrapped some on one of the blogs
19:17 tggmc is happy now
19:17 Cprossu thanks tggmc
19:17 tggmc np
19:17 tonsofpcs (also, are you using true 50 ohm cabling?)
19:17 Cprossu never heard schackered before
19:17 Cprossu yeah
19:18 tonsofpcs awesome
19:18 Cprossu rg58
19:18 wannabe1987 OTHER than dragon, whats a good voice software (speech to text)?
19:18 tonsofpcs doesn't windows have something built in now?
19:18 wannabe1987 mac
19:18 tggmc is there another input on streampc i can plug this into?
19:18 tonsofpcs doesn't OS X have something built in now? :-p
19:18 tggmc or does the card need a re-seat?
19:18 wannabe1987 dad has a broken pinky and needs something
19:18 Cprossu there is a green input and a green output
19:18 Cprossu on the capture card
19:19 tggmc it is in the one labled "y input"
19:19 wannabe1987 but tonsofpcs it doesn't work well.  lifehacker has a list on how to hack it, but my dads not a hacker *at all*
19:19 Cprossu what's the emergency video switcher set to?
19:19 Cprossu it's the one with 12 buttons on it
19:19 tggmc 12
19:19 tggmc should i roll through them?
19:19 Cprossu flip through and see if anything comes up on the stream
19:19 Cprossu yeah
19:19 wannabe1987 .in 40min TALK TO LIZ
19:19 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 19:59Z
19:20 tggmc nope
19:20 Cprossu hrmmmm
19:20 tonsofpcs is the other end of the cable plugged in?
19:20 Cprossu think I found the issue
19:20 tggmc that'll do it..
19:20 speedrunnerg55 tlockley: IT WORKS NOW
19:21 tggmc 60% of the time it works everytime
19:21 tlockley speedrunnerg55, how?
19:21 * speedrunnerg55 DANCES
19:21 speedrunnerg55 it worked after i rebooted
19:21 tonsofpcs *connects*
19:21 Cprossu lol
19:21 tggmc nothing.
19:21 Cprossu nice
19:21 tonsofpcs also, why am I seeing a shoretel ad?
19:21 wannabe1987 yay speedrunnerg55!
19:21 Cprossu hrmmm
19:21 tggmc just rolled through them again
19:21 wannabe1987 i don't know what was wrong but it works so yay!
19:21 Cprossu k let me look
19:21 tggmc red button?
19:21 tggmc green button?
19:22 tonsofpcs tggmc: on the switcher?
19:22 tggmc should i plug it into one of the monitors to see if it is outputting anything?
19:22 tggmc on the videotek rs12a
19:22 tonsofpcs that's for audio/video breakaway.
19:22 tggmc neither of the LEDs are lit, should they be?
19:23 tonsofpcs when you're pressing the buttons for each source, are they lighting up?
19:23 tggmc yeah
19:23 tonsofpcs both leds?
19:23 speedrunnerg55 the entire time you were controlling my pc i was like, oh my i left a pony posting forum open
19:23 tggmc sillyponyboy
19:23 tonsofpcs like, the red and green above each one as you hit em?
19:23 tggmc yeah
19:24 tonsofpcs yea, then it's in the right mode
19:24 tlockley lolz
19:24 tonsofpcs the green/red buttons let you split take video from one thing, audio from another.  So say you want video from 3 but audio from 7, you press 3, then audio breakaway, then 7.
19:24 tggmc Cprossu: if that doesnt work, i will plug it into a monitor so we can make sure it is getting fed something.
19:24 Cprossu tggmc do that next
19:24 tggmc ok
19:25 tonsofpcs you should at least have the wxcam
19:25 Cprossu nothing is a given for right this moment
19:25 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I mean as a video source, not necessarily switchable.
19:26 speedrunnerg55 tlockley: http://bronies.memebase.com/ i had that open in the backround and was like. oh my i fogot i had this open /me bites anils
19:26 tggmc yup
19:26 Cprossu well it's still a good test either way
19:26 tggmc it has video
19:27 Cprossu shoot so the problem is from the capture card on
19:27 tggmc change ports/reseat?
19:27 tonsofpcs tggmc: did you hook it to the monitor using the same cable you're using for the capture card?
19:27 Cprossu reseat the dongle connector
19:27 tggmc already did that
19:27 Cprossu I bet there's a config issue then I missed
19:28 tonsofpcs let me know if you need another pair of eyes, i'm in e-mail reading mode
19:28 tggmc tonsofpcs: yes, i unplugged it from the card end and plugged it into the monitor above it.
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19:34 lwq1996 FUCK
19:34 lwq1996 OK I NEED TO WEAR GLOVES WHILE SOLDERING NEXT TIME
19:34 tonsofpcs no, you'll get used to it (and learn to not solder your hand)
19:35 lwq1996 ouch...
19:35 tonsofpcs note: fingertips are not what you should be soldering.
19:35 tonsofpcs they need flux applied first! :D
19:35 lwq1996 i didnt even touch the tip...it was the metal tube thing
19:35 lwq1996 lol
19:35 Sgt_Lemming also note you will end up with fingertips of leather if you keep burning them, so not a problem either way really
19:35 tonsofpcs anyway, connectors are best soldered while being held by a small clamp or vise
19:36 lwq1996 i have tap on my finger wraped in tap
19:36 SparkyProjects Lee you're supposed to hold the handle, it's not like a pen :P
19:36 lwq1996 ik
19:36 tonsofpcs keep it clean and dry.  Go wash it, dry it, and tape some paper (TP, tissue, whatever) in there to keep it clean.
19:36 lwq1996 but i was holding down the part and sliped
19:37 SparkyProjects Never use the iron to hold down a part, if you have to use something, a small scredriver is best.
19:38 lwq1996 no with my finger
19:38 SparkyProjects Irons can break in the middle if you apply too much pressure
19:38 lwq1996 the thing sliped out of position and....OUCH is what i said next
19:38 lwq1996 ik they can
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19:39 mom-mobile Spas
19:40 mom-mobile Er ... Spatula
19:40 lwq1996 hi
19:41 mom-mobile In school?
19:41 lwq1996 no
19:41 lwq1996 but with burnt finger
19:41 mom-mobile why not
19:42 lwq1996 i just got home
19:42 lwq1996 like 30min ago
19:42 mom-mobile schools out already
19:42 lwq1996 yes
19:42 lwq1996 its lik 4
19:42 tonsofpcs it's the mom mobile!
19:42 mom-mobile damn you get have an easy nowadays
19:43 lwq1996 not really mom...we get to school at 8
19:43 masterofmonks We started at 7.
19:43 BotSteve masterofmonks: I have the following messages for you:
19:43 BotSteve At 15:43Z, Bat-Mobile asked me to tell masterofmonks I am becoming disappointed in Evernote's performance.
19:43 tonsofpcs lwq1996: needle nose pliers, those little cheap clamps that come in ratshack kits, screwdrivers, vises, vise grips, "helping hands" all make nice part holders while soldering.
19:44 tonsofpcs We started at 8:10 and got out at 3.  Then they changed it and we started at 8 and got out at 3:01.
19:44 lwq1996 ik
19:44 lwq1996 cool
19:44 lwq1996 my finger is cold
19:45 tonsofpcs heck, sometimes i'll solder a leg of a part to a wire, hold the wire by putting a heavy object (read: adjustable wrench) on it, then solder the other legs and desolder the first and use the others to hold it for the last leg
19:45 tonsofpcs also, why is outlook reminding me about a canceled appointment?
19:45 Cprossu I'm going to be really happy not to have internet that flakes out so often
19:45 lwq1996 idk
19:45 masterofmonks Because it's outlook and fail?
19:45 lwq1996 lol
19:46 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: no, that's why it's fail.
19:46 tonsofpcs Cprossu: hmm?
19:47 tonsofpcs mine has been happy since cable guy was in yesterday....
19:47 Cprossu yay!
19:47 lwq1996 lol
19:47 Cprossu remember tonsofpcs I am in indiana pooching wifi
19:47 lwq1996 why will it be better
19:47 tggmc back
19:47 Cprossu I am too tggmc
19:47 lwq1996 who is at mc?
19:47 Cprossu yno
19:47 Cprossu *s
19:48 lwq1996 ohh
19:48 lwq1996 hi ynos
19:48 lwq1996 i burnt my finger
19:48 tonsofpcs oh, I thought jeff was up there.  Hi ynos :)
19:48 tggmc hallo
19:48 tggmc ich bin ein verukter affe!
19:48 lwq1996 lol
19:48 tonsofpcs verukter affe?
19:49 tggmc crazy ape/monkey
19:49 Experimentonomen nite peepz
19:49 tggmc gnite
19:49 tonsofpcs ah
19:49 tonsofpcs g'nite Experimentonomen
19:50 tggmc Cprossu is there another input i can try?
19:50 masterofmonks lwq1996: tonsofpcs is at 50% of the BSTJ downloaded.
19:50 tggmc or does it only have one?
19:50 tonsofpcs http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/pet/2656240939.html
19:50 tonsofpcs how is lwq1996 doing?
19:50 tonsofpcs oh, I was going to look in the book I brought here for tube amp stuff too, wasn't i
19:51 tonsofpcs whoa, this book here talks about all sorts of time reference broadcasts, not just wwv
19:53 wannabe1987 lwq1996
19:53 wannabe1987 lee says he burnt his finger soldering....
19:53 masterofmonks It happens.
19:54 masterofmonks If you don't burn your finger every so often you don't know you're doing it right.
19:56 masterofmonks Wait DMC is back?
19:56 tonsofpcs ?
19:56 masterofmonks DeLorean Motor Company
19:57 lwq1996 ?
19:57 lwq1996 lol
19:57 masterofmonks http://www.autoblog.com/2011/10/17/dmc-delorean-electric-announced-back-to-the-future/
19:57 tonsofpcs oh, yes
19:57 tggmc ok
19:57 tggmc back downstairs
19:58 * tggmc waves
19:58 lwq1996 ye
19:58 lwq1996 bye
19:59 BotSteve wannabe1987: TALK TO LIZ
20:00 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: I'm gonna go scan this chapter.  PM an email addy
20:03 lwq1996 fucking penelec
20:04 masterofmonks penelec?
20:04 Cprossu rebooting tgg|yNos we'll see what happens next
20:04 lwq1996 the power company in pa
20:04 KB3NZQ lwq1996 where are you in  PA
20:04 lwq1996 they called for something about bills
20:04 KB3NZQ i'm in mars
20:05 lwq1996 inbetween altoona and clearfild
20:05 KB3NZQ ok
20:05 lwq1996 field
20:05 lwq1996 ive never been to mars
20:05 KB3NZQ 8 mile east of cranberry
20:06 lwq1996 ah
20:06 lwq1996 hmmm have you ever seen this video
20:06 lwq1996 .yt pennsylvainia guys
20:06 BotSteve lwq1996: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7ek7SWauEI
20:06 KB3NZQ yes
20:06 lwq1996 lol
20:06 Cprossu damn I thought I could get away without having .net framework on it
20:06 lwq1996 so true too
20:06 lwq1996 lol
20:07 KB3NZQ g2g need to mow the grass before the rain comes
20:07 wannabe1987 i have bacon bits
20:07 lwq1996 ok latert
20:07 lwq1996 BACON
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20:08 wannabe1987 hi Xela
20:08 Xela Hi wannabe1987 :)
20:08 wannabe1987 how are you?  i'm nomming bacon bits out of the bag
20:09 Xela OMFG BAAAAACCCOOOOON....
20:09 masterofmonks I am eating a completely unhealthy bacon ceasar sald.
20:09 wannabe1987 mmmm
20:09 Xela I'm doing fine...and I think I might even have bacon in the fridge *let me check*
20:10 Xela NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I'm all out of bacon
20:10 masterofmonks You know, I thought this was an awesome idea, and then I saw that it was The Onion. http://www.theonion.com/articles/new-legislation-would-shut-down-us-education-syste,26381/
20:11 Xela Good satire is usually very very close to reality
20:12 Xela tbh that's a pretty bad deal for the students though... what does it cost the state to 'educate' somebody? Probably a lot more than 3k
20:14 Xela Oh, is egrsteve around? (I know he's marked away but people tend to forget to unmark themselves)
20:14 Cprossu lol. bbl tgg|yNos
20:17 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums ( http://goo.gl/t0vze ).  New posts made by: Slurpy on New Random Junk ThreadSlurpy on New Random Junk Thread
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20:21 masterofmonks Xela: Agreed that the state pays more, but there are plenty of students that would go much further with a $3k business investment.
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20:23 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: lots of interesting things there.  Probably more in some of the other books I have.
20:23 tonsofpcs There's also a transistor section of that book but I figure it's likely (a) a bit outdated and (b) repeated in every book published since.
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20:27 westmi tgg|yNos, can't make it today got sidetracked by the wife
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20:37 wannabe1987 hi mantere
20:43 Seroster Argh
20:43 Seroster I found a 60'' CRT monitor today
20:44 Seroster Or, rather, back projection tv, with one red, green and blue yolk, three small degauss coils, one flyback split in three, bigass pcb...
20:44 tonsofpcs 60"?
20:44 Seroster And I didnt snatch it
20:44 tonsofpcs should have grabbed the screens
20:44 Seroster It was 60'' across, I think.
20:44 tonsofpcs there was a 25"ish CRT on the curb at my place this morning
20:45 tonsofpcs I contemplated it, but figure it's probably just as bad as mine if not worse
20:45 Seroster The top of the tv was higher than my eyes
20:45 tonsofpcs (flyback in mine is fubar)
20:45 Seroster Sometimes they are perfectly fine, but thrown out when people get lcd
20:45 tonsofpcs "You have chosen to completely uninstall Microsoft Visual Basic 2010 Express.  Choose OK to completely..." Really? does the dialog box have to be this verbose?
20:46 tonsofpcs well, also mine has a QAM + ATSC tuner.;
20:49 * wannabe1987 shines laser at IRC
20:49 * tonsofpcs ducks
20:50 Xela about the baluns that they need for CCTV: What's easier for them: Donating money via paypal or just ordering the things and having them shipped to the lab?
20:50 Seroster Ultrasonic cleaner
20:50 wannabe1987 no, go after it like a cat
20:50 Seroster 300 SEK, 50 bucks
20:50 Seroster Is that a good deal?
20:51 tonsofpcs for what?
20:51 tonsofpcs Xela: what kind of baluns?
20:51 Seroster What do you think I would use an ultrasonic cleaner for?
20:51 Xela thegeekgroup.org/bb/audiovisual/cctv-baluns/#p46732
20:51 Seroster *Hint* NOT A SEX TOY
20:52 tonsofpcs (last I chatted with egrsteve, we were still discussing how to build it out)
20:52 Seroster I would use it to ultrasonically clean shit, derp. =P
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20:53 tonsofpcs Seroster: what size...
20:53 tonsofpcs hmm, sounds from that post that he may have tested it.  You'd have to ask him or boden what is better though.
20:53 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: ^^
20:53 Seroster Clocks, jewelerry, glasses,
20:54 Seroster 750ml 42khx
20:54 Seroster khz*
20:55 tonsofpcs some of those reviews on DX scare me... (for the reviewers, not the product)
20:55 tonsofpcs Seroster: $50? seems like a lot, unless you have a lot to clean (or just want a fun toy or something to scare the cat, etc.)
20:59 Seroster Lol
20:59 Seroster Could be handy
21:00 tonsofpcs (I want video of the cat playing with it, btw)
21:02 Seroster Waitwhat
21:02 egrsteve morning all
21:02 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
21:02 Seroster with an ultracleaner?
21:02 BotSteve At 15:36Z, Cprossu asked me to tell egrsteve stream's streaming stuff since last night, don't know what though, and the jupiter computer is down acc'd to teamviewer so I couldn't switch anything
21:03 * egrsteve checks stream
21:03 egrsteve should be standby bars
21:04 egrsteve .history
21:04 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
21:05 Seroster tonsofpcs, I don't have vid of the kittens playing with ultrasonic shit, but I DO have one of them killing my salmon dinner.
21:05 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-fFo3v1M9g
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21:07 Thermoelectric Mornin'.
21:07 BotSteve Thermoelectric: I have the following messages for you:
21:07 BotSteve At 17:07Z, Seroster asked me to tell Thermoelectric TWO mots in one microwave?! If you find a microwave with two mots you have to film it, or take pictures =P   At the moment I got something like 20 MOTs, so I can start experimenting again soon =P
21:07 Seroster Hello there thermo
21:08 Thermoelectric Morning Seroster, and yeah, I'm pretty sure these bastards have 2 MOT's, they draw like 13A on 240V.
21:08 Thermoelectric And are as heavy as hell.
21:08 Thermoelectric Will have to document it, though, just for you. :)
21:08 Seroster Daaaamn
21:08 Seroster What kind of evil microwaves are they?
21:11 egrsteve anything new in the world today?
21:12 Thermoelectric Not too sure Seroster.
21:12 Thermoelectric Maybe a few babies here and there, Steve.
21:15 wannabe1987 few people died too, i'm sure
21:16 Seroster What, you took the paper bag off your head AGAIN? :S
21:16 Seroster Or was that too mean?
21:16 wannabe1987 not too mean
21:16 wannabe1987 i went swimming
21:16 wannabe1987 :D
21:17 Seroster Breaking news: 200.000 americans DEAD
21:17 wannabe1987 lol
21:17 wannabe1987 theres not 200,000 people at this college....
21:20 wannabe1987 nor are there 200,000 people near greenville....i'd have to go to gr first :P
21:23 Cprossu *yawns&
21:26 Cprossu well I broke that really well *reinstalls*
21:27 tlockley whatdja break?
21:30 Cprossu driver
21:31 SparkyProjects Seroster, you seen this crazy guy ?
21:31 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAeWTs4sHmI
21:32 Cprossu is egrsteve at/ going to be at the lab today?
21:33 * Cprossu has to change batteries on his netbook
21:33 Cprossu brb
21:37 Cprossu yay 6 more hours of battery
21:39 tlockley i need to get another battery for my mac
21:40 Cprossu I love these netbooks
21:41 tlockley asus?
21:51 egrsteve morning Cprossu
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21:54 Cprossu hey egrsteve
21:54 egrsteve I saw your message about the stream being up, but it looks down as of about a half hour ago, you been working on it some more?
21:56 Cprossu BotSteve: tell tlockley my netbooks are acers (AOD150 and AOD250 respectively) and my laptop was originally a n80vb, but due to me upgrading the video card to a geforce 9650M GT it counts as a n80vn.
21:56 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when tlockley is around.
21:56 Cprossu yeah egrsteve
21:56 Cprossu was messing with it
21:56 Cprossu there's no signal going to it
21:56 Cprossu (though the signal is present)
21:56 Cprossu it's something you'll need to look at quickly. I thought it was a driver issue but it appears it might not be
21:59 Cprossu * @ egrsteve
21:59 egrsteve when I left last night the stream should have been displaying bars
22:00 egrsteve with standby text
22:00 Cprossu yeah they reported the signal was good to the connector but plugged in the red port, I had them switch it to te green colored in
22:00 Cprossu oh wait... who was it that was color blind?
22:00 egrsteve I will see if I can make it there after work
22:00 Cprossu (then again he said it was Y in too)
22:00 egrsteve and take a look at it
22:01 egrsteve but that won't be till about 8
22:01 Cprossu fair enough
22:01 Cprossu so it's 6 here and there right?
22:01 egrsteve correct
22:01 Cprossu I don't have my grr watch on me rofl
22:02 egrsteve it happens
22:02 masterofmonks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_Electric_Bell
22:03 Cprossu kinda odd having 4 teamviewer sessions running on a single netbook
22:03 Cprossu and people ask me how I use more than one computer at the same time lol
22:04 egrsteve 4 sessions? why so many
22:05 egrsteve poor netbook
22:05 Cprossu the stream computer, my media pc at home, my desktop (from which this irc is on), and a server I have running to test
22:06 Cprossu otherwise my irc would be disconnecting every 15 seconds
22:06 Av_Nekoroms http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrAIFP2pfew
22:07 Av_Nekoroms how about some molle
22:07 egrsteve ah ok
22:07 egrsteve I am running a remote IRC for the same reason, but mine is via SSH
22:07 Cprossu this was easy for me since I set the whole thing up in 5 minutes before leaving my house
22:08 egrsteve nice
22:08 egrsteve I was given a login on this server with irssi already on it
22:09 egrsteve and ssh isn't block at school, std irc port is
22:10 dbshortwave basically you can tunnel into yuor macine at home and chat on IRC frm school via VPN
22:11 dbshortwave blasted dislexia
22:11 dbshortwave and stupid fingers -.-
22:12 Cprossu yeah it hpanes
22:12 egrsteve sort of except ssh instead of vpn and the machine isn't mine
22:12 dbshortwave lol;]
22:13 tonsofpcs <3 ssh + screen + irssi
22:13 dbshortwave you sir are the second that i know of that does that ~.^
22:14 egrsteve using tmux not screen here
22:15 tonsofpcs The bell will eventually stop when the dry piles are depleted of charge — that is, if the clapper does not wear out first.
22:15 tonsofpcs dbshortwave: I know plenty of people who do this.  Also, I need to try this tmux thing
22:15 Cprossu I used to run VNC at port 443 before AIM was blocked
22:15 egrsteve i read that too, we need one
22:15 Cprossu back in the day
22:16 dbshortwave cool
22:16 Cprossu then I switched it to 8080
22:16 * tonsofpcs decides that Cprossu needs a port scan ;)
22:17 Cprossu 72.222.196.252 have at it tonsofpcs
22:17 * egrsteve fires up nmap
22:17 tonsofpcs heh
22:17 egrsteve takes aim at cprossu
22:17 exor674 Cprossu: wait... your school blocked port 443?
22:17 tonsofpcs not even replying to ping.  (eh, I'm lazy)
22:17 Cprossu yeah they did.
22:17 exor674 ,,,
22:17 egrsteve -np option
22:17 exor674 ... ... ...
22:17 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums ( http://goo.gl/t0vze ).  New posts made by: Bill Jones on CCTV Baluns
22:18 Cprossu tonsofpcs of course it doesn't. lol
22:18 exor674 Cprossu: what the fuck?
22:18 Cprossu would you expect it to?!
22:18 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yes.
22:18 Cprossu :27015 will respond though
22:18 Cprossu (due to my gmod server being there)
22:19 Cprossu props if you can give a accurate os and version/kernel (not from memory )
22:20 Cprossu tonsofpcs as far as I know any true geek attempts to make his IP as much of a black hole as possible
22:21 Cprossu shit tons of info going in, nothing tracable going out
22:21 tonsofpcs but that makes you a sign of a true geek and a true target
22:22 Cprossu I enjoy it, there's plenty of holes, but it's 'security through obscurity' so if they have the talent to break through they can have my empire of digital 1's and 0's that I don't place much value on anyway!
22:23 Cprossu they won't find my taxes, and even my bank account isn't enabled online
22:24 * tonsofpcs waits for egrsteve to decide that he needs nmapping too
22:24 Cprossu speaking of which, anyone know what I should do to this stupid RFID in my new credit card?
22:24 Cprossu I asked them to not deliver one with one but they messed it up this time
22:24 tonsofpcs Cprossu: destroy  it, call the company and tell them you destroyed it and want one without RFID
22:24 egrsteve thumper
22:24 tonsofpcs alternatively, use it to buy gas and groceries by tapping and act all cool about it
22:25 Cprossu thumper screws up the magstrip though
22:25 tonsofpcs thumper is a valid means of destruction
22:25 tonsofpcs I wonder what would happen in a high RFI environment
22:25 Cprossu and makes lots of card pieces
22:25 tonsofpcs the only card with a RFID chip in it that I have was expired before I started this gig...
22:25 Cprossu tgg|yNos could you make a RF RFID cooker?
22:26 tonsofpcs there's a 1kW TV Translator in the labs...
22:26 egrsteve just smash the IC in it with a hammer
22:26 Cprossu that'd probably work just fine given the right frequency
22:26 egrsteve shouldn't damage the outside too much
22:27 tonsofpcs idk about his, but mine was just as flat as any other card...
22:27 tonsofpcs it just had a symbol painted on, otherwise there was no way to tell
22:27 Cprossu yeah mine is like that
22:27 egrsteve same as the tgg cards
22:28 Cprossu I put myself on a list when the AMEX blue cards came out
22:28 Cprossu and those were technically still smartcard tech
22:28 tonsofpcs you could xray it to find where the antenna is and slice it with an exacto.  We figured out where the antennas were on the IDs at school and were able to kill them by breaking a certain area
22:28 Cprossu tonsofpcs very good idea
22:28 egrsteve cprossu, nmap thinks you are an VOIP phone
22:28 masterofmonks You could induce voltage into it.
22:28 Cprossu egrsteve get the x ray head and the new transformer
22:29 egrsteve gemini?
22:29 tonsofpcs i would think gemini would be too low freq.
22:29 egrsteve talk to radio active
22:29 tonsofpcs I could be wrong though
22:29 Cprossu no the x-ray transformer that we just got
22:29 wannabe1987 .seen lwq1996
22:29 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw lwq1996 2.36 hours ago at 2011-10-18 20:07:52 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 22:29:30 UTC
22:29 Cprossu should do the trick
22:29 egrsteve then one of teh sstc should be plenty high
22:29 Cprossu I like the slicing idea
22:30 egrsteve put it in a mill, disect it layer by layer
22:30 tonsofpcs (you'd have to actually displace a piece, make sure there's no intermittent contact)
22:30 Cprossu technically our sr-100 is accurate enough
22:30 egrsteve gently flex it to see if you can find the IC
22:30 tonsofpcs (we got one new ID per semeester, so we didn't care about destroying them completely)
22:31 egrsteve so it the TM-1
22:31 Cprossu I can['t tell egrsteve
22:33 egrsteve try googlng it then
22:33 Cprossu already was
22:33 Cprossu many styles
22:33 Cprossu haven't found the one I got yet
22:34 egrsteve microwave it, it works on cds
22:34 masterofmonks Go all photonicinduction on it.
22:36 tonsofpcs cut all places?
22:36 tonsofpcs alternatively, just use the damn thing
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22:36 Cprossu tonsofpcs what I been doing
22:37 Cprossu it expires in less than a year anyway
22:37 Cprossu if the next one gets sent with rfid it's going to be conveniently lost in the mail
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22:38 Sasha__ Guys,  I need URGENT physics help for several questions...
22:38 Cprossu do your own homework
22:38 Sasha__ I don't get it though...
22:38 Sasha__ Like, at all.
22:38 Cprossu that's why you have it!
22:38 Cprossu xD!
22:39 eadthem ile help with understanding
22:39 Sasha__ A stone is projected horizontally with velocity 3.0ms-1 from the top of a vertical cliff 200m high. Calculate how long it takes to reach the ground.
22:39 Sasha__ Assume g=10ms-2
22:39 egrsteve look for a spot with a differnt wear pattern on it, like it is slightly thinner
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22:40 eadthem well sounds like you need to eliminate some useless info
22:40 egrsteve try to figure out what is important
22:41 Sasha__ Wait, eadthem and egrsteve, is this related to my question or whatever you were talking about before?
22:41 egrsteve think about the forces that act on it
22:41 eadthem your question
22:41 egrsteve and when they act on it
22:43 Cprossu found it egrsteve`
22:43 egrsteve did that help cprossu?
22:43 Sasha__ So basically I have to add the two forces together?
22:44 egrsteve not really
22:45 Sasha__ Oh, would the answer be 9.53? If I use the triangle  method of working out...
22:45 Cprossu egrsteve it did, it was a slight depression,
22:46 Cprossu probably the size of a PC case screw head
22:46 egrsteve think about all the forces acting on it when it is in the air, break all of them into there components
22:46 egrsteve no, I don't think that is the right answer
22:48 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
22:48 Cprossu well signing off for now unless you can think of anything else that's urgent
22:49 Cprossu oooh tracking number!
22:49 Sasha__ Yeah, 7 other questions...
22:49 wannabe1987 TOAST!
22:49 Toastdude WANNABE!
22:49 * Toastdude hugs Kelly
22:49 Cprossu 1ZX887810362681320 so you can follow along
22:49 Toastdude :)
22:49 * wannabe1987 needs hugs
22:49 wannabe1987 o.O
22:49 Toastdude I read your mind before you thought it...
22:49 wannabe1987 ik
22:50 wannabe1987 GET OUT.  ONLY CJ IS ALLOWED UP THER
22:50 Toastdude Creepy...
22:50 wannabe1987 THERE*
22:50 egrsteve sasha__ what can you tell me about falling objects?
22:52 Sasha__ Damn it guys, it's 1 am here. I am well beyond trying to work this out and get a good grade… oh, and falling objects they go in the direction of the force, and gravity can pull them in
22:52 Sasha__ Or something like that
22:53 egrsteve when an object is falling gravity is the only (relevent) fore acting on it
22:53 egrsteve there is friction but that is being ignored
22:54 Sasha__ Yeah, but there is also the 3ms^-1 push from the person who threw it...
22:54 egrsteve standing at the top of a 200m cliff I have 2 balls, which I drop at the same time, one is droped straight down the other is push off horizantaly, which one lands first?
22:54 Sasha__ They fall at the same time?
22:55 egrsteve the are both released at the same time
22:55 Sasha__ I meant they all fall down at the same time
22:55 egrsteve one lands beneth me, one a distance away
22:56 egrsteve so what does that mean about the moment they hit the ground
22:56 Sasha__ It is at the same time?
22:56 egrsteve yes
22:56 Sasha__ So basically it took you guys 10 minutes to try and understand that the 3ms^-1 is irrelevant.
22:57 egrsteve even though one was push off (horizantally) it lands at the same time because the net force in the vertical direction is the same
22:57 egrsteve no, we knew that right away
22:57 tonsofpcs ugh, that eeepc is now in memtest86 mode until I decide it's had enough... keeps hard freezing
22:57 Sasha__ So instead I have to measure using the 10ms^2 thing
22:58 egrsteve hence the comment about ignoring irrelevant into
22:58 egrsteve *info
22:58 egrsteve and finding what matters
22:58 egrsteve it just took you some time to figure what info was and wasn't important
22:59 egrsteve we won't tell you the answer, but we are willing to direct you toward it
23:00 egrsteve I know that is not what you want, but understanding beats an answer any day (or night)
23:00 egrsteve yes, gravity is the only force acting on it durring free fall
23:01 Sasha__ Yeah, the thing is, at this pace, I will not sleep
23:01 egrsteve it's the acceleration due to gravity that it falls to the ground
23:02 egrsteve sleep is over rated, sleep in class
23:03 Sasha__ :facepalm:
23:03 egrsteve *only in classes you understand the subject matter
23:03 egrsteve sorrt, I souldn't be sarcastic
23:03 egrsteve *sorry
23:03 tonsofpcs heh
23:03 tonsofpcs egrsteve: if you launch it horizontally fast enough, the dropped oone will hit the ground first.......
23:03 egrsteve yes, due to the curvature of the earth
23:04 tonsofpcs (yay for rockets and the fact that the earth curves and you can launch things up by launching sideways ;)
23:04 egrsteve but 3m/s is no where near escape velocity
23:04 Sasha__ Ok. So is the answer 6.32s?
23:04 egrsteve so irrelevent to the problem
23:04 egrsteve yes
23:05 egrsteve 6.32 sec is a resonable answer I had 6.4 using 9.8 m/s
23:05 egrsteve */s
23:05 Sasha__ AAARGH!! The answer was in the next question :facepalm:
23:06 egrsteve but you would never know that unless you solved it
23:06 tonsofpcs 9.80665?
23:06 Sasha__ Yeah, but now I wasted almost half an hour on one question, and there are 6 more
23:07 egrsteve once you get the hang of it and undersand them they should go faster
23:08 Sasha__ Well at least you're helping. Whenever I ask him, he tells me to go look in the textbook, and when I find nothing, he tells me to google it...
23:08 wannabe1987 lol
23:09 wannabe1987 thats stupid
23:09 Sasha__ Oh yeah, I know...
23:09 exor674 ..... and this person is a teacher?
23:09 tonsofpcs wolfram alpha > google for sciency things
23:09 egrsteve shh
23:09 Seroster Nip tit SCHABBAT!
23:09 egrsteve thats our geeky secret
23:10 Sasha__ What, you really think wolfram alpha would tell me "A stone is projected horizontally with a velocity of 3.0ms-1 from the top of a vertical cliff 200m high. It takes 6.3s to reach the ground. Calculate how far it lands from the foot of the cliff, Ignore air resistance"
23:10 Sasha__ ?
23:10 egrsteve .wa time to fall 200m
23:10 BotSteve object falling vertically-> , fall distance->200 meters;time to fall->6.4 seconds, 0.11 minutes, 0.0018 hours, final speed->63 m\/s  (meters per second), 140 mph  (miles per hour), 2.3 mi\/min  (miles per minute), (assuming point mass)
23:10 egrsteve yes i do, it you know how to ask it
23:10 Sasha__ .wa time to fall 200m 3ms^-1
23:11 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
23:11 Sasha__ .wa time to fall 200m at 3ms^-1
23:11 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
23:11 Sasha__ .wa time to fall 200m at 3ms^-1 horizontally
23:11 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
23:11 egrsteve time to travel 200m at 3m/s/s
23:12 egrsteve .wa time to travel 200m at 3m/s/s
23:12 BotSteve time->200 minutes, acceleration->3 m\/s^2  (meters per second squared), initial speed->0 m\/s  (meters per second);distance->216000 km  (kilometers), 134216 miles, 2.16&times;10^8 meters
23:12 tonsofpcs heh, it took 200m as 200 minutes, nt 200 meters
23:12 Seroster Stop with the WA spam please.
23:12 egrsteve i see
23:12 Sasha__ See? I told you it didn't work. Trust me, I use it a lot for math, and I know what it can do...
23:13 egrsteve it gave me the right answer for the falling one
23:13 Sasha__ Oh, and sorry Seroster
23:13 Seroster It's allright until you overdo it =P
23:14 Seroster If you are testing out what will give you a result you can /msg BotSteve
23:14 Sasha__ Oh that is useful. Didn't know about that ;)
23:14 tonsofpcs egrsteve: 200m and 6.3s are irrelevant to the problem....
23:14 tonsofpcs err
23:14 tonsofpcs 200m is irrelevant
23:14 Sasha__ But egrsteve: I need the distance from the cliff
23:14 Toastdude Sasha__: What are you trying to do exactly?
23:14 egrsteve I didn't see the second problem qusiton
23:15 Sasha__ A stone is projected horizontally with a velocity of 3.0ms-1 from the top of a vertical cliff 200m high. It takes 6.3s to reach the ground. Calculate how far it lands from the foot of the cliff, ignore air resistance
23:15 tonsofpcs .wa 6.3seconds * 3.0 meters/second
23:15 egrsteve what is the horizonal velocity when the stone leaves the cliff and when it hits the ground?
23:15 BotSteve 6.30 seconds&times;3.00 m\/s  (meters per second);18.9 meters;62 feet;20.7 yards;1890 cm  (centimeters);~~ 0.94 &times; length of a cricket pitch ( 22 yd );~~ 0.37 &times; height of Nelson\'s column (including statue) (~~ 169 ft );length;height;Light travel time t in vacuum from t = x\/c:, ->63 ns  (nanoseconds);Light travel time t in an optical fiber t = 1.48x\/c:, ->93 ns  (nanoseconds);Sound travel time t at STP fro
23:15 Sasha__ So wait, it is 18.9 meters?
23:16 tonsofpcs I don't know, is it?
23:16 Sasha__ egrsteve?
23:16 tonsofpcs Sasha__: the question is posed to you.
23:16 egrsteve there are no horizontal forces acting on the stone in the air, what is the horizonal acceleration?
23:17 Sasha__ 3ms^-1
23:17 egrsteve ok so what is the horizonal velocity when it hits the ground?
23:18 masterofmonks http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=200+meter+fall
23:19 Sasha__ 63m/s?
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23:19 egrsteve Sasha 3ms^-1 is the velecity not the acceleration
23:20 egrsteve with no horizonatal forces acting on it what will the hozizontal speed be
23:20 egrsteve hint, you can ignore gravity becase it only acts in the virtical direction
23:20 Seroster Isnt gravity 9.89m/s^2?
23:20 egrsteve 9.81
23:20 tonsofpcs 9.80665, your book seeems to truncate it to 9.8
23:21 Sasha__ Darn. You just confused me even more… and it usually is, however we have to assume it is 10 for the previous question
23:21 egrsteve just ignore gravity for a minuet
23:21 Seroster tonsofpcs, That was from memory =P
23:22 tonsofpcs Seroster: yes, it was.
23:22 Sasha__ Hence why we were only given gravity for the previous question
23:22 egrsteve think only about it moving horizontaly, and not falling at the same time
23:22 Seroster tonsofpcs, are you another aspie?
23:22 Seroster Or just a guy with a lot of spare time, no girlfriend and a lack of porn? =P
23:22 masterofmonks Thhere is always opyion three Seroster.
23:22 tonsofpcs I'm trying to think the last time I actually had to do a gravity problem.... probably 5 years ago
23:23 egrsteve if rolled at ball 3 m/s for 6.3 seconds how far would it go?
23:23 tonsofpcs altthough I probably helped someone with some in college about 3 or 4 years ago.......
23:23 Sasha__ 18.9?
23:23 tonsofpcs Sasha__: are you asking or telling?
23:23 egrsteve askign
23:24 egrsteve I was asking
23:24 Sasha__ So it is 18,9
23:24 egrsteve do you know why it is 18.9?
23:24 Sasha__ Because it is constant velocity
23:24 Sasha__ ¨
23:24 Seroster What is the third option, mom?
23:25 egrsteve ok, in the same way the falling stone has a constant horizonatal velocity from the push imarted to it
23:25 egrsteve *imparted
23:25 masterofmonks Seroster: both.
23:25 egrsteve it only accelerates down
23:26 Seroster Like... you? But without the deficiency of pornography?
23:26 tonsofpcs and the fourth option: I'm a fscking genius (well, memtesting right now, fsck is next...)
23:26 masterofmonks You think I am deficient of that?
23:27 tonsofpcs Seroster: let me point out: we are all on the internet.
23:27 egrsteve Sasha__ take a look at this link, tonsofpcs found it, it might help you visualize the problems better http://www.physicsclassroom.com/class/vectors/u3l2b.cfm
23:30 masterofmonks And there is always Khan Academy.
23:30 egrsteve Well, I think I will be logging off for a while, everyone have fun here
23:30 Sasha__ So then would it be 33.3 meters away from the cliff?
23:30 Sasha__ Noooo! egrsteve, without you, I have no hope of completing my work!
23:31 egrsteve how long did it fall?
23:31 masterofmonks help him egrsteve you are his only hope.
23:31 egrsteve I feel like Obi-wan
23:31 Sasha__ I feel like a noob
23:32 Sasha__ A desperate noob
23:32 egrsteve it's ok, your just learning this
23:32 masterofmonks You typoed Sasha__ , the letter you are looking for is to the left of the "n"
23:32 egrsteve did you look at that link I posted?
23:32 Seroster God damn it
23:32 Seroster Tomorrow is computer sciences
23:32 Seroster Wich means.... EXCEL!
23:32 tonsofpcs EXCELlent!
23:32 Seroster We're done with word now, yaaay.
23:33 Sasha__ Yes, that is how I got to the 33,33
23:33 Seroster "This is excel."
23:33 Seroster "Open a new spreadsheet"
23:33 tonsofpcs whoa, too fast, slow down
23:33 Seroster "Save it as 'getting started'"
23:33 masterofmonks That qualifies as "computer sciences"
23:33 tonsofpcs am I 'open' or 'new'?
23:33 Seroster Yeah, shit, have to slow down there
23:33 tonsofpcs :-p
23:33 egrsteve think of it this way how far can it move (horizontally) in the time it takes for it to fall
23:34 Seroster So tomorrow morning is 180 minutes of headdesk
23:34 tonsofpcs ----> and V are unrelated, other than that (in this example), it stops doing ----> when it stops doing V
23:34 Seroster If you type =a1+a2 it ADDS a one to a two! Now you try!
23:34 egrsteve headdesk is I nice way to spend a class
23:34 Seroster The book is as concedending as a spokesperson for MENSA talking to a retard.
23:34 tonsofpcs Seroster: it's complaining about some sort of circular reference? I didn't tell it to look at a circle!
23:35 Sasha__ It can move 18.9 meters
23:35 masterofmonks Seroster: you could always take an adult toy with you and get some practice in while you head desk.
23:35 tonsofpcs Sasha__: good!
23:35 Seroster And you wanna know the greatest thing, tonsofpcs!?
23:35 egrsteve ok so in the time it takes to fall (6.3) sec it moves 18.9 meters horizontally
23:35 tonsofpcs Seroster: i can tell it 'fix this for me' and it does?
23:35 Seroster I had this very same idiotic class in grade 9, and in the other two highschools I went to
23:35 Seroster Fourth time and it doesnt get funnier.
23:36 tonsofpcs Seroster: I got exempted from that class when i was going for my bachelors because I transferred in a comuputer science class (C++ programming I)
23:36 Sasha__ Noooo egrsteve|away !!!
23:36 Seroster yay
23:36 Seroster Not a single word on password security
23:36 tonsofpcs they didn't require it at community college (it was optional)
23:37 Seroster Not a single advice on how to install a router
23:37 Toastdude Bye egrsteve|away
23:37 Seroster No mention of the difference between antivirus and firewall
23:37 tonsofpcs do they define S Q L?
23:37 Sasha__ Ok no but seriously, what do I do with the 18.9 now?
23:37 masterofmonks Advice on how to install a router?
23:37 Seroster No useful information about keyboard commands
23:37 tonsofpcs oh, and C++ Programming I was the only college course I ever failed.
23:37 Seroster masterofmonks, I think more people would need help installing a router than open a fucking word document
23:37 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: did it hurt?
23:38 masterofmonks Seroster: Now days consumer routers are.. well designed for sonsumers.
23:38 masterofmonks consumers*
23:38 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: yes.  I failed because ON THE FINAL, WITH NO COMPUTER NEARBY, ON PAPER, my psuedocode looked too much like code.
23:38 Seroster He got 18 people who are becoming electricians, We'll use word again about 5 times each after graduating, once for the list of guests to our marriages, one for our will and three for links to porn.
23:38 Sasha__ tonsofpcs: do I divide the 18.9 with 10^2x6.3
23:38 Sasha__ ??
23:38 tonsofpcs Sasha__: ok, let's back up
23:39 tonsofpcs What exactly does the question say?
23:39 Sasha__ A stone is projected horizontally with a velocity of 3.0ms-1 from the top of a vertical cliff 200m high. It takes 6.3s to reach the ground. Calculate how far it lands from the foot of the cliff
23:39 Sasha__ Oh, and there is also the mention that we have to ignore air resistance
23:39 masterofmonks Seroster: you need links?
23:39 Seroster I got plenty in a .txt
23:39 masterofmonks You actually have to write them down.
23:40 Seroster Also, have any of you used word -07-11?
23:40 dbshortwave i hated that corese when i was taking IT through Phoenex U
23:40 Ponko joined #thegeekgroup
23:40 tonsofpcs Sasha__: ok, so how will the stone fall? (draw a horizontal and vertical vector from a start point and the rough path of it)
23:40 Seroster They got rid of the dropdown menues that actually made sense in favour of some fucking system that DOESNT
23:40 dbshortwave it wasnt my best corse
23:40 tonsofpcs (you don't need to show it to me, but if you can it might help)
23:41 Seroster I want to change the format of this piece of text... Then you click the FORMAT menue... Oh, there isnt a format menue? All the shit from #format is just strewn about in the entire fucking program? ARGH
23:42 tonsofpcs Seroster: yes.  I have -1whatever on the netbook
23:42 tonsofpcs you hit alt, then v and expect the menu to appear like the web browsers with hidden menus do, and instead it says "you can keep hitting shortcuts" and I'm like "no, I wanted to hit alt+f, down a few times, then enter"
23:44 Toastdude Doesn't it fall in a half parabola?
23:45 Ponko damn i miss arcades
23:45 Toastdude Nvm
23:46 Sasha__ Oh screw this, it is 33.3, right?
23:46 Ponko well ones with decent games like smash tv
23:46 masterofmonks Bear Grylls is a train wreck, without the strange compulsion to watch.

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