Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

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00:00 egrsteve 52 must be fun, we need more, I wonder how many it would take to crash a system
00:00 egrsteve time to go home and eat ttyl
00:00 angy I can go up to close to 100 with the current setup
00:00 egrsteve|away 100 would be fun
00:01 angy you will not be able to associate with one though
00:01 egrsteve|away I should be at the lab tomarrow evening if anyone cares
00:01 angy with 52 it's kind of quite hard already
00:01 egrsteve|away spread them out over more channels
00:01 angy already done
00:02 angy only 11 channels :)
00:02 egrsteve|away so the whole area is satturated with wifi
00:02 egrsteve|away kill hte interwebs via too many ssids
00:02 egrsteve|away and only 3 non-oberlapping
00:02 angy I don't care, it's fun :
00:02 angy :p
00:03 egrsteve|away time to go home, ttyl
00:04 dbshortwave hey i have an idea
00:04 dbshortwave lets bounce a wap signal off the moon
00:04 Cprossu egrsteve|away you not away?
00:04 Cprossu or are eating, damn
00:04 Cprossu tonsofpcs got something for you to knaw on
00:05 Cprossu *gnaw
00:05 astronouth7303 can we use the moon and a portal to create a WAN?
00:05 * angy throw a few SSID at Cprossu
00:05 Cprossu who needs a wan when you have portals?
00:06 * Cprossu scares the shit outa angy by sneeking up on him
00:06 * dbshortwave shoots a portal and one opens on the other side the planet to punch some dude in the face
00:06 dbshortwave talk about reach out and touch someone
00:06 dbshortwave lol
00:07 yNos hrm
00:07 yNos looks like i left myself on
00:07 Cprossu lol angy's behind me now ._.
00:07 wannabe1987 o.o
00:07 yNos HI ANGY
00:07 Cprossu looks like so
00:07 yNos HI CPROSSU
00:07 Cprossu Picked you up a case yNos
00:07 angy I'd rather be behind seroster ;)
00:07 yNos ohmy
00:07 yNos not cory?
00:07 Cprossu jbwelding the plastic pieces though
00:07 yNos plastic?
00:08 Cprossu the front of the case
00:08 tlockley what did ya get a case for?
00:08 Cprossu has....a few dings......like the rest of the case
00:08 yNos i am ok with a naked machine...
00:08 Cprossu this is project get yNos something faster than a via C3
00:08 yNos unless required for cooling, naked machines are my thang
00:08 yNos lololol
00:08 tlockley ah
00:08 Cprossu it has a plexi side panel
00:09 Cprossu does that count as naked enough?
00:09 * angy wants a naked S...
00:09 wannabe1987 angy!
00:09 Toastdude Hi yNos!
00:09 yNos Hiya toast
00:09 wannabe1987 hi yNos, Cprossu, angy
00:09 angy make system that is!
00:09 angy hi wannabe1987
00:09 yNos angy, there are kids in here.. lets keep it...
00:10 yNos uhh
00:10 Cprossu speaking of that.... damn liz's outfit was hot today
00:10 yNos what am i saying...
00:10 wannabe1987 o?
00:10 Cprossu nsgfw?
00:10 Cprossu *nsfw
00:10 yNos yeah, she dresses like that generally.
00:10 yNos very.. ummm...
00:10 yNos yeah
00:10 yNos ilike
00:10 yNos x.x
00:12 Cprossu X_x
00:13 yNos so now that routing/dns forward are setup.. i need to write a script that will make the reverse configs.
00:13 Cprossu got any sata hdd's at home yNos?
00:13 yNos SATA?
00:13 angy we have 50+ SSID broadcasted!
00:13 yNos lololol
00:13 Cprossu indeed we do *kicks angy*
00:13 yNos i have few drives that are not PATA and SCSI
00:13 angy not /my/ fault!
00:13 angy Steve fault!
00:13 Obtuse lol. 50!
00:13 yNos those are winchesters 0.o
00:15 yNos there are 2 winchester interface drives in the as/400
00:15 Cprossu egrsteve|away you're being blamed for angy plugging in all the wifi points and producing mayhem here at 902 leonard nw
00:15 yNos did we come up with a naming convention for the SSIDs?
00:16 angy nope
00:17 angy currently it's a letter-ssid
00:17 yNos a-z twice over?
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00:17 angy a-vlan10 a-vlan20 a-vlan30...
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00:18 wannabe1987 hi squeak, Hackbat
00:18 yNos lol
00:18 squeak Hi
00:18 yNos squeak is on?
00:18 yNos squeak from lsl?
00:18 squeak Yes the one and only
00:18 yNos Welcome!
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00:19 Cprossu Wow everyone's getting here at the same time
00:19 wannabe1987 o.O
00:19 wannabe1987 who is squeak
00:19 Hackbat lsl?
00:19 Toastdude squeak!
00:19 Hackbat Linden Scripting Langauge
00:20 yNos leonard street labs
00:20 Hackbat ah
00:20 Cprossu hrmmmm.
00:20 squeak im not on much but im on capt blogs
00:21 wannabe1987 i realize this.  who are you from there?
00:21 squeak yes im there still
00:21 wannabe1987 like your irl name
00:21 masterofmonks This is as real as anywhere else.
00:22 wannabe1987 the name they use at the lab
00:23 squeak yes
00:24 angy squeak is squeak
00:24 wannabe1987 ok.
00:24 wannabe1987 then i clearly havn't seen you there
00:24 angy :)
00:24 wannabe1987 i'm not there much :P
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00:27 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
00:27 squeak Rob is my name squeak is my nickname there
00:27 sndwrx hey wannabe1987
00:28 Cprossu lol granted we don't have many 'rob
00:28 Cprossu s
00:28 sndwrx wannabe1987:  You should go to the Greenville Community Center this Saturday and buy some stuff from the MARC flea market.
00:28 sndwrx All proceeds go to the Montcalm Area Reading Council
00:28 wannabe1987 i wont have a car...i'll be at a friends
00:28 wannabe1987 buy with what money?
00:28 sndwrx hehe
00:29 wannabe1987 i have not worked in a year, and thats not for lack of trying
00:29 sndwrx Well it's a flea market!  Cheap stuff!
00:29 sndwrx that's a bummer.
00:29 wannabe1987 mhm
00:31 sndwrx Well I'll be there helping out.  If anyone else from TGG is in the area we'd appreciate you stopping by and checking it out!
00:35 astronouth7303 greenville sounds far away
00:35 astronouth7303 and i'm busy with family stuff on saturday
00:35 yNos back.. had to move upstairs.
00:37 dbshortwave i scared the hell outta my cat earlier
00:37 wannabe1987 greenville is up 37/44
00:37 wannabe1987 and up 91
00:37 wannabe1987 or up 131 and take 57
00:37 wannabe1987 45 min away, not bad....i'm living in lakeview, 1 1/2 hour away :P
00:38 wannabe1987 all distances from GR
00:38 Cprossu k @ ynos
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00:39 wannabe1987 hi westmi
00:39 westmi sup
00:39 Cprossu lots of stuff
00:39 injektion http://jalopnik.com/5853869/ten-cars-th​at-are-slower-than-they-look/gallery/2
00:39 Cprossu I have to check on 2 things brb
00:42 sndwrx Oh Lakeview isn't /that/ far away, is it?  Of course, it's been a long time since I was up there.
00:43 wannabe1987 well, you go up 131 to 46, but its somewhat east of 131
00:45 wannabe1987 ok
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00:46 Toastdude brb
00:46 yNos sndwrx: you live up in lakeview?
00:46 wannabe1987 no, i do
00:46 wannabe1987 for now
00:46 sndwrx Nah I'm in Grand Rapids.
00:46 yNos ahh
00:47 yNos was going to say, i thought wannabe was up there... was starting to wonder if you were her roomate..
00:47 wannabe1987 lol
00:48 wannabe1987 no, cj and jason, eric, and jasons' mom (plus 2 chihuahua's and a nother dog) are my roommates
00:48 yNos are they all from that area originally?
00:49 wannabe1987 no, arizona :P
00:50 * KB3NZQ is watching Revision3 - Derbycon 2011: Raphael Mudge from Armitage, Nerdcore's Dual Core and Forensics, and Octothropes? - Hak5 [36:39 mins] [100 kbps MP4] [276.35 MB]
00:51 squeak im going home be back in a wile
00:54 yNos later
00:54 egrsteve|away later ynos
00:54 dbshortwave you out yNos?
00:54 angy .cookie egrsteve|away
00:54 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve|away, I baked you a white chocolate cranberry cookie!
00:55 angy .skittles egrsteve
00:55 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I got you some green skittles!
00:55 yNos i am at home now
00:55 egrsteve mmm skittles
00:55 yNos i was saying later to squeak...delayed a bit
00:55 yNos am watchign the captain;s blog
00:56 yNos and dyslexifying letters
00:57 astronouth7303 dyslexifying?
00:57 astronouth7303 .cookie
00:57 BotSteve Here you go, astronouth7303, I baked you a peanut butter cookie!
00:58 astronouth7303 .fortune
00:58 BotSteve Let the machine do the dirty work. -- "Elements of Programming Style", Kernighan and Ritchie
01:00 astronouth7303 and that's why i don't do c
01:01 astronouth7303 ironic
01:01 wannabe1987 i was like "wheres my chat window" and i was like o, minimized....i'mm back
01:01 wannabe1987 my foot hurts, has hurted for 4+ weeks
01:02 astronouth7303 get off it?
01:03 yNos astronouth7303 yes. i made up a word.
01:03 yNos i also use dyslexification
01:03 angy let's patent it, shall we?
01:04 astronouth7303 yNos, this is the internet. it's what we do.
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01:04 yNos you dont like c?
01:04 angy P'ky!
01:04 yNos i used to live by the k&r
01:04 Ponko alright angy L)
01:04 Ponko :)
01:05 wannabe1987 PONKO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:05 Ponko WANNABE1987!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
01:05 dbshortwave sderawkcab ni klat uoy nehw sti
01:05 * wannabe1987 got a 1
01:05 Ponko i know
01:05 dbshortwave lol
01:05 tonsofpcs Cprossu: hmm?
01:05 wannabe1987 evawtrohsbd that sucks
01:05 tonsofpcs injektion: everywhere needs a tim hortons.
01:05 astronouth7303 yNos, I dislike C++ a lot more. C is alright, but I still prefer my dynamic languages
01:05 dbshortwave lol
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01:06 Ponko my go to guy is not here right now i see lol
01:06 tonsofpcs injektion: they opened one inside a gas station on the highway hre, was great, then they decided to put timmy's 'express' in like all the stations they owned and they reduced that one almost (not quite) to 'express' level.
01:08 yNos astronouth7303, i prefer fast, small bins that do what i need and not much more, that is why i prefer C over other bloaty languages.
01:08 yNos but most of my stuff is pretty hackish
01:08 yNos quick and dirty to do what i need to do
01:08 angy :)
01:08 astronouth7303 say that when you want your "small, fast bin" to have a GUI interface
01:08 astronouth7303 or do web stuff
01:09 astronouth7303 i'm all over "do one thing and one thing well"
01:09 angy web stuff is not a problem in C
01:09 * Ponko wants to play some cricket
01:09 yNos i have made a few c based websites.
01:09 astronouth7303 I didn't say it wasn't possible
01:09 yNos its not hard.
01:09 astronouth7303 but it is somewhat more painful
01:09 angy website in C in super easy to do
01:09 yNos i rarely use a gui.. other than a web browser.
01:10 angy you don't browse in text all the time? that's sad!
01:10 astronouth7303 angy, CGI, right?
01:10 tlockley angy how is doing sql in c?
01:10 astronouth7303 or templates
01:10 angy SQL in C is not very hard
01:10 angy depending on how you implement it
01:10 tlockley ic
01:10 sndwrx Lynx ftw.
01:10 angy I code my C website directly into my web server, so...
01:10 yNos i text web browse some times.. but mostly chrome or ffox
01:11 yNos links
01:11 yNos 2
01:11 tlockley how so angy?
01:11 angy 75% of my web stuff is coded in PERL, the other 25% is in C
01:11 tlockley like as in a mondule for the server?
01:11 angy nope, like as the server
01:11 * wannabe1987 eyes glaze over
01:11 angy I use railgun, which is a heavy experimental webserver
01:11 tlockley ok, so you server from the c app
01:12 angy not really
01:12 angy it's a mix of the C server is the C app and the C app is the C server
01:13 yNos i think i used cgiC last time... i dont remember the library...
01:13 angy (and don't search railgun on google, it won't have anything on it, sources are not out)
01:13 tlockley so how do you have it?
01:13 angy let's see...
01:13 angy I coded it?
01:13 tlockley ah
01:13 astronouth7303 by "highly experimental" you mean "i'm playing around with making my own"
01:14 astronouth7303 C has some very important uses
01:14 tlockley sounds very similar to how most python web frameworks allow you to dev with a builtin server
01:14 astronouth7303 and they all have to do with high performance
01:14 yNos http is not a very hard protocol.
01:14 astronouth7303 yNos, not at all.
01:15 yNos not to belittle angy's railgun.
01:15 tlockley man i wish ETC didnt charge so much for their iRFR app
01:16 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what am I knawing on? s/k/g/
01:16 yNos a p3n15?
01:17 dbshortwave LOL
01:17 tonsofpcs tlockley: iRFR? is that the ipod touch remote thing?
01:18 tlockley etc released a version of their radio focus remote(RFR) for ipad that can integrate with NET3 systems
01:18 yNos Cprossu: many people at the lab?
01:18 tlockley but they want $600+ for it
01:18 tonsofpcs Net3?
01:18 tlockley basically the same as a real RFR
01:18 tonsofpcs I thought Net2 was ethernet...
01:19 tonsofpcs also, I want a real RFR for my Express 2448
01:19 tlockley etc NET2 and NET3 are compatable
01:19 tlockley net3 is just the latest version
01:19 tlockley its used in their eos series consoles
01:19 tlockley so in my case, we use a ion at UMass Dartmouthj
01:19 tlockley and it is connected over net2 to a acn to dmx gateway
01:20 tlockley which splits to the rest of the system
01:20 tlockley and it alos used to connect over net3 to the portable 24ch dimmers we had
01:20 egrsteve last etc I used had to be 80s era :)
01:20 tonsofpcs I have an Express 2448 and a Producer II+ with sequencer, disk module, and some added sequencer module that they don't have any documentation on ;)
01:20 tlockley but we are getting a new installed system that is entirely net3 excluding the dmx controlled leds and movers
01:21 tlockley nice
01:21 tonsofpcs what happened to the ipod app that they wanted $50 for but the $50 was to donate so that people wouldn't buy it for $1 and ask for support
01:22 tonsofpcs I was goign to make the Express into an Expression and then build a web if, but etc won't sell the expression sttuff anymore
01:22 tlockley dunno, but its either $600 for iRFR or $1000 for Luminare for the iPad which is a Art-Net app
01:22 tonsofpcs It'd be sweet since we have CEM dimmers.
01:22 tonsofpcs but no....
01:23 tlockley the CEM stuff is nice. now that the school finally is fixing the house system we have two 24ch sensor+ packs
01:23 tonsofpcs also, what the heck are those moving fixtures that every huge music show uses? volumetrically it looks like they can gobo out the center and create a hollow cone of light, they can also color shift
01:23 * wannabe1987 has a dollar 10 and is taking donations
01:24 tlockley probably a barco
01:24 egrsteve martin cam series
01:24 egrsteve *mac
01:24 tlockley either or
01:24 angy and, yes, I devved that webserv for performances issues
01:24 egrsteve look up martin mac 2000
01:24 * wannabe1987 feels useless here
01:24 tlockley i know that barco is supposed to have some sweet digital lumiaries that are effectily 6k projectos on a moving head
01:25 egrsteve :( 2000 is discontinued
01:25 tlockley yah
01:25 tlockley was about to say
01:25 tonsofpcs yea, these were just ERS on a spinny, I think... TSO used them, STS9 used them
01:25 tlockley but i do like the two mac 750 kryptons that we have as umass
01:25 nazca_ angy: you remind me of a fun idea a from way back... setting up apache to call make on the requested path and then execute
01:25 tonsofpcs they weren't quite S4 revolutions, maybe 1/2 the weight if I had to guess
01:26 angy :)
01:26 Cprossu hey egrsteve
01:26 egrsteve hi cprossu
01:26 Cprossu I have a quick question for you
01:26 angy what is the universe?
01:26 egrsteve ok
01:26 astronouth7303 angy, performance?
01:27 egrsteve dmx universe?
01:27 astronouth7303 there's some pretty tight webservers
01:27 Cprossu can you think of a quick way to toggle the thermostat heat relay once every 2 hours?
01:27 Cprossu in hvl?
01:27 egrsteve yes an no, why
01:27 angy astronouth7303: super fast for what we use it, but it is written to be optimized solely for that task, so it's biased
01:28 astronouth7303 angy, what task is that?
01:28 Cprossu because after I taped up the leak on the intake by the filters the unit seems to cycle off after 2 hours instead of 10 minutes
01:28 Cprossu and it
01:28 Cprossu drops off
01:28 Cprossu a quick off and on and the unit's on again
01:28 angy astronouth7303: huge database operation on remote calls
01:28 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what di you have for me earlier?
01:28 Cprossu a quick off and on and the unit's on again
01:28 egrsteve tapped off the panel on the roof?
01:29 astronouth7303 angy, a database to HTTP proxy?
01:29 Cprossu found out the tascam is used for 'recorded stuff' and the yamaha is used for live
01:29 egrsteve interesting
01:29 Cprossu and it's a yamaha *gets out phone)
01:29 angy astronouth7303: not HTTP, proprietary protocol devved for speed
01:29 Cprossu 1602
01:30 SparkyProjects Cprossu, not sure if there's an on off timer around, one thet has on time and off time knobs.
01:30 SparkyProjects Alternately 2 single timers where operation of timer 1 will start timing of timer 2, and that will reset timer 1
01:30 astronouth7303 angy, so you're converting one proprietary protocol to another?
01:30 angy not really, there is (mostly) only one proprietary protocol, the database is for the most on MySQL and a little bit on Oracle
01:31 Cprossu tonsofpcs: http://i653.photobucket.com/albums​/uu255/vitavi69/Photocanon761.jpg only more beat up
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01:31 Cprossu SparkyProjects I just need it to cylcle a relay every 2 hours
01:31 tonsofpcs it could be worse.
01:31 Cprossu unattended
01:32 tonsofpcs Cprossu: so are we back to the "Get that into a PC w/ 2x RCA" question?
01:32 Cprossu yep
01:32 angy astronouth7303: when you need real speed, you have 2 choices, upgrade the hardware or create your tools. and the first may not be able to keep up, so...
01:32 tonsofpcs MC1602...
01:32 astronouth7303 angy, why not use MySQL/Oracle directly?
01:32 SparkyProjects Yeah, more common would be 2 octal timers, they usually have 2 sets of changeover contacts, one set for interconnected control, other for the heater
01:32 tonsofpcs "Congratulations!
01:32 tonsofpcs You are the proud owner of a Yamaha MC-series Mixing Console.
01:33 tonsofpcs "
01:33 angy because you need somewhere a database backend driver...
01:33 SparkyProjects Want a diagram Cprossu  ?
01:33 astronouth7303 angy, that sounds like an odd way of doing things
01:33 Cprossu tonsofpcs the mc1602 looks different than the 1602
01:34 angy astronouth7303: in that case, you don't have the whole picture on that one
01:34 Cprossu the mc1602 has analog meters, the 1602 has a flourescent display
01:34 Cprossu yes a diagram would be nice SparkyProjects
01:35 angy and a big part of the app is to be able to handle cache way more efficiently than MySQL (most object are BLOB typed)
01:35 Cprossu egrsteve am I barking up the wrong tree?
01:35 astronouth7303 angy, to be fair, i'm not sure MySQL is the best choice for scaling/performance
01:35 angy it's a very huge debate :)
01:35 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it does?
01:36 tonsofpcs hmmm
01:36 Cprossu yeah it's a VFD vs a analog set of meters
01:37 astronouth7303 angy, Of course, last time I wrote a web app, i was on Google App Engine, so my server impressions might be a bit off
01:37 angy :)
01:37 egrsteve probably, there is a reason the unit is cycling off, and it would be best to figure out why
01:37 tlockley well i can say the whole nosql movement thing really has done nothing for HA databasing
01:37 astronouth7303 related: Django and nonrelational databases don't always work out well
01:38 tlockley hellz no. django is built so tightly coupled to strict ORM i am amazed that people get away with doing that
01:38 tonsofpcs hmm, there's MV and MQ mixers too
01:38 angy astronouth7303: I was not really impressed with google app engine I have to say
01:38 tonsofpcs Cprossu: is there a model # on a sticker underneath?
01:38 astronouth7303 angy, but it's cheap
01:38 angy it is
01:38 Cprossu tonsofpcs I shall go look
01:38 angy it's a great system
01:38 tlockley correction GAE was cheap
01:38 astronouth7303 tlockley, it works fine until you try to use groups or permissions
01:39 Cprossu egrsteve do we have data on hvl hvac?
01:39 tlockley astro, i bet
01:39 egrsteve idk, i don't
01:39 astronouth7303 tlockley, i think they're keeping free thresholds
01:39 tonsofpcs Cprossu: ask the water on the floor? ;)
01:39 tlockley well thats good atleast
01:39 astronouth7303 angy, I agree. Good way to get started
01:39 astronouth7303 (of course, my site is currently a static affair on github pages)
01:39 tlockley you ever play with CouchDB astronouth7303
01:39 angy I don't remember the hosted where I have a few things that are not perl or C
01:39 astronouth7303 tlockley, not yet. Haven't had a need
01:40 astronouth7303 my current project is a desktop app, so not messing with databases atm
01:40 Cprossu MQ1602
01:40 Cprossu ^ @ tonsofpcs
01:40 tlockley still deciding myself if using Couch is a good choice or if i shoudl stick with relational
01:40 tonsofpcs loooks like the MQ
01:40 tonsofpcs yea
01:40 angy it all depend on your need for it
01:41 astronouth7303 tlockley, imho, if you're considering nonrelational, you need to look at your data carefully
01:41 astronouth7303 because you can store nonrelational data in a rdb, but not the other way.
01:41 tonsofpcs wait, there's a multipin on the back of that thing?!!?
01:41 astronouth7303 like GAE allows parent/child relations
01:41 tlockley yah, I have been on the fence as it is something that could be done in either to similar effect
01:41 astronouth7303 but (until recently) very little query parameters
01:42 astronouth7303 tlockley, I would say to stick with a RDB if you're not sure.
01:42 Cprossu tonsofpcs I have no clue let me look
01:42 tlockley yah, except I hate ORM with a passion
01:42 tonsofpcs anyway
01:43 tonsofpcs Cprossu: use the 1/4" unbalanced outputs.
01:43 astronouth7303 tlockley, so don't use ORM?
01:43 tlockley yah
01:43 angy astronouth7303: the name I was searching for is heroku, nice hosting if you mess in ruby
01:43 astronouth7303 there's got to be a thousand ways to abstractly describe your data
01:43 astronouth7303 angy, i've heard of them, but i don't use ruby yet
01:44 angy I don't really like ruby
01:44 tlockley well im off for a mental health momen
01:44 astronouth7303 I love python, and ruby isn't too far off. But the one time I played with it, I found it underdocumented
01:45 angy I dislike python :)
01:45 angy I have to say that I never really looked into it though
01:45 Cprossu YAY so those are unbalanced tonsofpcs weeeee1
01:45 astronouth7303 have you looked into dynamic languages at all?
01:46 astronouth7303 i dislike java
01:46 astronouth7303 and I hate C++
01:46 angy PERL ;)
01:46 Cprossu I am with you astronouth7303
01:46 astronouth7303 that's ... not really high-level?
01:46 Cprossu screw java, C++, and C#
01:46 astronouth7303 that's a hackjob
01:46 Cprossu =P
01:46 astronouth7303 (doubly so for PHP)
01:46 angy java is high-level, it's a mess that is
01:47 astronouth7303 it's high-level, but not dynamic
01:47 angy php is not high-level
01:47 angy perl is high-level dynamic
01:47 Cprossu 6502, 6800, z80, hc11 assembler ftw =P
01:47 astronouth7303 PHP is higher level than C++. at least it manages memory for you
01:47 SparkyProjects Cprossu http://i44.tinypic.com/166gbo.gif
01:47 angy but php is not considered high-level
01:47 astronouth7303 angy, but perl lacks in good OOP or metaprogramming, afaik
01:48 angy not really in OOP
01:48 Cprossu nice and easy too SparkyProjects
01:48 angy and metaprogramming, let's say it's hard when you are interpreted :)
01:48 astronouth7303 umm... no, it isn't
01:49 astronouth7303 python's metaprogramming is pretty easy
01:49 Cprossu egrsteve quick fix (lol) we have those timers for electrical stuff in the basement, think I can hack something together in 20 minutes with them
01:49 angy you're not supposed to be metaprograming if you don't compile
01:49 astronouth7303 we don't talk about reflection/introspection because we just do it
01:49 tonsofpcs Cprossu: for what?
01:49 Cprossu ala SparkyProjects idea
01:49 astronouth7303 ummmm.... says who?
01:49 wannabe1987 tiem to go, bye
01:49 Cprossu for cycling a heater that shouldn't be cycled because we don't know what's wrong with it yet
01:50 SparkyProjects Hopefully you can find a couple of timers, they are quite popular in control cabinets, just have to find ones with enough range, and if the timers are mains powered, you only need one set of contacts in each timer
01:50 astronouth7303 metaprogramming is code operating on code, or changing how the language works
01:50 angy but if you go with your definition on metaprog, perl does it very well also
01:50 astronouth7303 funny, last i heard, metaprogramming in perl was painful and error-prone
01:50 Cprossu I think our timers may be batt powered
01:50 angy you're talking more generative programming than metaprogramming
01:50 Cprossu but idk
01:50 tonsofpcs Cprossu: 555.
01:50 Cprossu rofl
01:51 angy it can be super hard in perl or quite easy, depending how you do it
01:51 tonsofpcs fine, use something designed for the purpose, like a darkroom timer..
01:51 Cprossu HAHAHAHA
01:51 tonsofpcs oor some time delay relays ina tree
01:51 astronouth7303 angy, oh?
01:51 astronouth7303 that doesn't sound so good
01:51 Cprossu chris walks in and there's a darkroom timer hooked to the thermostat
01:52 angy the best or worse part of perl is that you can do every single step in a thousand of different ways
01:52 Cprossu looks at me I'm like "don't ask"
01:52 SparkyProjects I once did a timer out of old telephone relays cascaded in series, and capacitors to cause a delay, this was for a telecom test i was attending.
01:52 tonsofpcs oh, you have thermostat controls?
01:52 tonsofpcs that's so much easier
01:52 Cprossu it is not programmable
01:52 Cprossu that I can see
01:52 * tonsofpcs teaches Cprossu how to use a mercury tube with two contacts
01:53 astronouth7303 angy, i've also heard that you have to learn the entire language before you can use it affectively
01:53 Cprossu wrong tonsofpcs
01:53 Cprossu thermostat is calling for heat
01:53 Cprossu and the unit cycles off after 2 yours
01:53 Cprossu *hours
01:53 angy I have to disagree strongly with that, you have to know the part you are using, but don't need the rest
01:53 Cprossu if you switch it off and on it comes back up
01:53 tonsofpcs erm.... it shouldn't need to be on for 2 hours non-stop
01:54 angy I know a lot of perl programmers, including myself, that don't know how to do GUI but can do very heavy database stuff
01:54 astronouth7303 angy, of course, the only actual experience i've had with perl apps is bugzilla
01:54 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs, it's a large space
01:54 SparkyProjects Cprossu, sounds like an internal timer is cutting it off
01:54 angy that is... a pain...
01:54 astronouth7303 oh good!
01:55 angy they should really start writing it up from the ground and stop trying to add functions on old code
01:55 astronouth7303 or actually have a design?
01:55 angy that as well
01:55 Cprossu indeed SparkyProjects
01:56 angy a good example of well written very huge perl app is http://bestpractical.com/rt/
01:56 astronouth7303 angy, *shrug* I use hosted stuff, currently github
01:56 angy you have to know quite a bit of perl to be able to deploy it well, but it's very well written
01:56 angy :)
01:56 angy I think I use a C gitweb wrapper
01:56 astronouth7303 ... what?
01:57 Cprossu it also doesn't help that our heater nukes the ceiling and leaves none to come to the floor
01:57 Cprossu OOOH
01:57 Cprossu egrsteve
01:57 Cprossu do you think the intake air temp has a limit?
01:57 angy I host my own git repo and share some on the web using gitweb
01:57 Cprossu egrsteve wake up!
01:57 angy and I'm pretty sure I render the web through a C app
01:58 astronouth7303 angy, ... why?
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01:58 angy because it's way easier for me
01:58 astronouth7303 .....
01:58 astronouth7303 we'll go with that
01:58 angy second one is that I don't want to pay github to have private repos
01:59 astronouth7303 angy, why not just keep private repos to yourself, then?
01:59 angy /and/ I don't trust at all cloud-based systems hosted in the US
01:59 egrsteve sorry cprossu, workign on homework as well
01:59 astronouth7303 _that's_ legitimate
02:00 egrsteve depending on the mode of operation there should be a freeze stat that could be locking it out but tht should not effect it in heat mode
02:00 angy I did not know you could have private repos on github
02:00 Bat-Mobile Sorry to come in during the middle of a conversation, but bitbucket now has unlimited public and private repos, and supports git
02:00 angy but I need to share my repo with a few selected people
02:00 yNos badass
02:00 Bat-Mobile I'm considering switching
02:00 astronouth7303 angy, ah, i see
02:00 angy but still cloud based in the US
02:00 yNos named is up and running with all forward and reverse lookups setup for all the dhcp pools
02:00 SparkyProjects Cprossu, in the last place i worked they had fans suspended at ceiling height, with a soft plastic tube hanging  from them and diffusers at the bottom tube was like thick garbage bag plastic)
02:00 angy Yay!
02:00 astronouth7303 Bat-Mobile, I just learned github, and i'm not doing anything private
02:01 Cprossu ok lol
02:01 angy bitbucket is from Atlassian? that's nice!
02:01 angy do they provide Jira in bitbucket?
02:01 egrsteve thats a low cost air duct solution
02:01 nazca_ you know, I could really do with Moose to appear right about now :p
02:01 Bat-Mobile I think I remember something about jira
02:01 Bat-Mobile checking
02:01 Bat-Mobile yep
02:01 Bat-Mobile integrates with JIRA
02:01 egrsteve nazca_ you would be better posting to the forum
02:01 astronouth7303 Nazca, I don't think moose comes on IRC?
02:02 angy Nic!
02:02 Bat-Mobile moose *hates* irc and will never come here
02:02 angy nope, she don't
02:02 Cprossu so anyway egrsteve the air near the intake is around 89F
02:02 angy I like atlassian products
02:02 egrsteve hmm, near the return air intake?
02:02 Bat-Mobile angy: if you try it and like it, let me know how it is
02:02 Bat-Mobile maybe I'll switch
02:03 nazca_ bitbucket is interesting, though I would need a good reason to switch from github
02:03 * Bat-Mobile cracks knuckles.  All right, what time is it?  Merge time!
02:03 angy I may try it
02:03 angy I'll fork your bot on it
02:03 angy :)
02:03 astronouth7303 oh good
02:04 Bat-Mobile BotSteve: Break Time!
02:04 Bat-Mobile nooo
02:04 Bat-Mobile I'm not the owner
02:04 Bat-Mobile hahaha I'm an idiot
02:04 astronouth7303 time to find out if my code really, honest to god works
02:04 angy Mouhahahahaha
02:04 angy I hope it will crash
02:04 angy I like bot crashing
02:04 BatSteve BotSteve: Break Time!
02:04 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
02:04 BatSteve :P
02:04 astronouth7303 angy, we tested it last night
02:04 BatSteve hope they weren't important
02:04 angy fail
02:05 BatSteve Well, I haven't written the wrapper script, so if it does crash, it's down for good
02:05 BatSteve or until I reboot it
02:05 angy kick his ass then
02:05 Cprossu yes egrsteve return air
02:06 Cprossu copper exhaust fan duct is 81F
02:07 SparkyProjects Cprossu, is there a stat in the intake duct ?
02:07 Cprossu I don't think so
02:07 Cprossu there could be though
02:07 SparkyProjects Something to check
02:07 Cprossu it's not linked though
02:07 Cprossu it has a dumb stat on the other end
02:07 Cprossu afaik
02:08 SparkyProjects The 'dumb' stat, is that in the exhaust duct ?
02:08 Cprossu I really need to get on the roof and supply model #'s
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02:09 Cprossu no dumb stat is attached to a chain klink fence at the bottom of hvl
02:09 Cprossu *chain link
02:09 SparkyProjects ah, ok
02:09 astronouth7303 .seen ajprog_laptop
02:09 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen ajprog_laptop around.
02:09 astronouth7303 .seen captainboden
02:09 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen captainboden around.
02:09 astronouth7303 BatSteve, didn't we keep that db?
02:09 ajprog_laptop astronouth7303: yes?
02:09 astronouth7303 ajprog_laptop, just testing
02:09 Cprossu oh god. this is pretty funny
02:09 BatSteve we did, astro
02:09 BatSteve baby steps
02:10 Cprossu me and angy are next to eachother right?
02:10 angy .seen astronouth7303
02:10 BotSteve angy: I last saw astronouth7303 0.01 hours ago at 2011-10-28 02:09:37 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:10:03 UTC
02:10 BatSteve I just wanted it to load first
02:10 Cprossu I am remoted into my computer in phoenix and he's remoted into a computer in france
02:10 egrsteve nice
02:10 SparkyProjects HAHA :D
02:10 angy it's more a server that has my IRC bouncer on it though
02:11 BatSteve Now each of you, ssh into each other's remotes from your own remotes
02:11 BatSteve Complete the triangle
02:11 angy so we have a 500ms lag between post for each other
02:11 tlockley lol
02:11 egrsteve cprossu I just packed my good multi probe thermometer so I can take some measurments
02:11 Cprossu So for him to see a message I type it goes from GRR to Phoenix to france to GRR
02:11 Cprossu good.
02:11 Cprossu I wish we could have joe too
02:12 tlockley well, good night everyone
02:12 BatSteve so long tlockley
02:12 egrsteve my Dad would be even better
02:12 * Ponko see's his man
02:12 Cprossu that would be awesome
02:12 egrsteve he worked HVAC service for years
02:13 egrsteve he might stop there this weekend to use the panel saw
02:13 * Ponko plays a game of Cricket
02:13 egrsteve maybe he can take a quick look at it then
02:13 egrsteve what we need is new service panels made
02:13 SparkyProjects egrsteve: sounds like a good trade off to get the heating fixed for use of the saw
02:14 egrsteve it might be
02:14 egrsteve he needs to cut a counter top down
02:14 Cprossu egrsteve we have actual service panels
02:14 Cprossu apparently
02:14 * BatSteve amuses himself by throwing the cricket balls around
02:14 Cprossu no more plywood
02:14 egrsteve when did that happen?
02:14 Ponko hey trades like this are pretty much part of life
02:14 Cprossu I HAVE NO CLUE
02:14 egrsteve interesting, I never heard about ut
02:14 BotSteve joined #thegeekgroup
02:14 Cprossu but our units are still dented
02:14 egrsteve *it
02:15 BatSteve .seen egrsteve
02:15 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw egrsteve 0.00 hours ago at 2011-10-28 02:14:52 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:15:01 UTC
02:15 BatSteve ok
02:15 BatSteve good
02:15 Cprossu meaning that the panels don't fit right
02:15 Cprossu on the bottom
02:15 astronouth7303 .seen captainboden
02:15 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen captainboden around.
02:15 egrsteve we need joe with a hammer up there to fix tha
02:15 Cprossu hence me taping hvl
02:15 egrsteve t
02:15 angy punch them in?
02:15 Cprossu .seen cprossu_laptop
02:15 Cprossu samn
02:15 injektion .seen injektion
02:15 Cprossu angy =P
02:15 angy Yay! Bot crahs!
02:15 injektion lol
02:15 egrsteve so bring sheet metal tools too
02:15 * Ponko picks up his helmet and pads puts on gets shirt puts over pads and starts to play football
02:16 Cprossu oh egrsteve the yamaha mq1602 has unbalanced outputs weee
02:16 egrsteve there you go nice and easy
02:16 angy and I just tried to fork github in botbucket ><
02:16 BotSteve joined #thegeekgroup
02:16 astronouth7303 angy, good job. You might have to do it by hand
02:16 Cprossu .seen cprossu_laptop
02:16 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw cprossu_laptop 99.09 hours ago at 2011-10-23 23:11:30 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:16:44 UTC
02:16 angy it may be hard in botbucket though
02:17 Cprossu .seen life
02:17 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw life 1561.59 hours ago at 2011-08-24 00:41:26 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:17:02 UTC
02:17 Cprossu .seen caffeine
02:17 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw caffeine 2866.97 hours ago at 2011-06-30 15:19:15 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:17:11 UTC
02:17 Ponko .seen bacon
02:17 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen bacon around.
02:17 Cprossu .seen captainboden
02:17 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw captainboden 1068.48 hours ago at 2011-09-13 13:48:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:17:22 UTC
02:17 Cprossu all seems in order now BatSteve
02:17 angy .seen Ponko
02:17 BatSteve that's one
02:17 Cprossu o_O
02:17 BatSteve the reminder database will not be preserved
02:17 BatSteve now let's see if your tells will stick around
02:18 * Ponko is under centre takes the snap drops back 7 steps throws the ball deep
02:18 BatSteve astronouth7303: were you able to preserve the tell.db on your build, or only seen?
02:18 angy deep into what?
02:18 angy *nsfw mind*
02:18 BatSteve my waiting hands, obviously!
02:18 astronouth7303 BatSteve, seen came free.
02:19 * BatSteve makes the catch
02:19 BatSteve that's what I thought
02:19 BatSteve trying it with tell now
02:19 BatSteve narp
02:19 astronouth7303 tell/remind have to be converted by hand
02:19 BatSteve yeah
02:19 BatSteve You said that earlier, I missed the significance
02:19 astronouth7303 not terribly difficult, since you already have the code
02:19 BatSteve Sorry
02:20 Ponko bloody hell
02:20 BatSteve Cprossu: your tells are Lost in Time And Space
02:20 Cprossu well good for them
02:20 BatSteve They will emerge when the next gate opens.
02:20 Cprossu they weren't doing themselves or us any good lol
02:21 BatSteve Unfortunately, the Terror Track is almost full and when they reappear, they will bring one of the Great Old Ones with them.
02:21 BatSteve (:
02:21 Cprossu did you get the raw file so you can send it to me?
02:21 astronouth7303 BatSteve, nice
02:21 Cprossu I've lost track of all the timebombs I set over botsteve's life
02:21 Ponko i wonder if he's seen a lovely bacon and egg sandwich with brown sauce
02:22 Cprossu I knew there were plenty
02:22 BatSteve I'll send it to you momentarily
02:22 astronouth7303 BatSteve, do you want me to gist the code to convert them?
02:22 BotSteve joined #thegeekgroup
02:22 BatSteve Do you have convert code already written?  If you don't, I can do it
02:23 egrsteve http://www.theonion.com/articles/nation-final​ly-breaks-down-and-begs-its-smart-peop,26450/
02:23 Cprossu hahahah
02:23 astronouth7303 BatSteve, no, but it's just gluing the old loading routines
02:24 egrsteve ^^ if only it was true
02:24 BatSteve Your call astro, you can do it or I can.
02:25 BatSteve I really don't mind either way
02:25 astronouth7303 i've got research to do
02:25 astronouth7303 you do it
02:25 BatSteve Roger that
02:25 * Ponko is playing some GTA  vice city
02:25 BatSteve .w brown sauce
02:25 BotSteve "Brown sauce (meat stock based), in French and Scandinavian cuisines" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_sauce
02:25 angy .w Ponko
02:25 BotSteve "This page has been deleted." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponko
02:25 Cprossu hahahahahaha
02:26 Cprossu .w nyan cat
02:26 BotSteve "Nyan Cat (also known as Pop Tart Cat)[1]| is an internet meme, referring to an animated GIF of a cat with the body of a cherry Pop-Tart flying through space, leaving a rainbow trail behind the cat; or to a video of the animated gif, set to a remix of the song [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nyan_cat
02:26 angy .w The cats of seroster
02:26 BotSteve "Robert Atkinson Westall (7 October 1929, North Shields – 15 April 1993, Warrington hospital) is the author of many books, mostly children's fiction, though also for adults, and non-fiction." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Westall
02:27 sndwrx BatSteve:  What is the git for BotSteve ?
02:27 astronouth7303 .code
02:27 astronouth7303 .source
02:28 angy ultimate fail
02:28 Cprossu .poop
02:28 Ponko .seen bacon and egg sandwich
02:28 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen bacon around.
02:28 angy https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve
02:28 sndwrx thanks.
02:28 Ponko .sandwuch
02:28 Ponko .sandwich
02:28 BotSteve Here you go, Ponko, I made you a black forest ham with american cheese on whole wheat sandwich!
02:28 Ponko hmmm
02:28 Cprossu BotSteve tell bacon and egg sandwich to brown sauce
02:29 Cprossu BotSteve: tell bacon and egg sandwich to brown sauce
02:29 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when bacon is around.
02:29 IsopropylAlcohol lol
02:29 bacon Boo
02:29 BotSteve bacon: I have the following messages for you:
02:29 BotSteve At 02:29Z, Cprossu asked me to tell bacon and egg sandwich to brown sauce
02:29 Ponko lol
02:29 Ponko tasty
02:29 Cprossu WHAT?!
02:29 IsopropylAlcohol BotSteve: Tell BotSteve1 to fix his nick
02:29 BotSteve IsopropylAlcohol: I'll pass that on when BotSteve1 is around.
02:29 injektion BotSteve: Is it aluminum or aluminium?
02:29 dbshortwave "Tongue-tied and twisted Just an earth-bound misfit, I"
02:30 BatSteve .code
02:30 BatSteve drat
02:30 IsopropylAlcohol BotSteve: Tell tggmc1 to fix his nick
02:30 BotSteve IsopropylAlcohol: I'll pass that on when tggmc1 is around.
02:30 BatSteve why doesn't...oh...haven't merged that
02:30 Ponko .coin
02:30 BotSteve Tails!
02:30 astronouth7303 .botsteves_code
02:30 BotSteve my code download can be found at https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve
02:30 Cprossu BotSteve: tell ajprog_laptop did you fix the food situation yet?!
02:30 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when ajprog_laptop is around.
02:30 Ponko .football
02:30 IsopropylAlcohol yay code
02:30 astronouth7303 Ponko, sorry, BotSteve doesn't get football
02:30 IsopropylAlcohol food situation?
02:30 * angy throws a football across the pound
02:31 Cprossu tell 1month it worked
02:31 BatSteve astronouth7303: in a different branch, I've added .code as a synonym
02:31 astronouth7303 ah
02:31 Cprossu BotSteve: tell 1 month it worked!
02:31 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when 1 is around.
02:31 ajprog_laptop I believe I tasked you with that Cprossu
02:31 BotSteve ajprog_laptop: I have the following messages for you:
02:31 astronouth7303 you should keep your branches straight.
02:31 BotSteve At 02:30Z, Cprossu asked me to tell ajprog_laptop did you fix the food situation yet?!
02:31 Cprossu shit
02:31 BatSteve astronouth7303: bite me, jeeves  (:
02:31 Cprossu BotSteve: tell onemonth it worked!
02:31 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when onemonth is around.
02:31 angy BotSteve: tell ChanServ you're cute
02:31 BotSteve angy: I'll pass that on when ChanServ is around.
02:31 astronouth7303 :P
02:31 astronouth7303 you're welcome
02:31 Cprossu BotSteve: tell twomonths it worked!
02:31 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when twomonths is around.
02:31 astronouth7303 i can file it as a bug if you'd like
02:31 Cprossu BotSteve: tell sixmonths it worked!
02:32 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when sixmonths is around.
02:32 Cprossu BotSteve: tell sevenmonths it worked!
02:32 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when sevenmonths is around.
02:32 Ponko .seen you
02:32 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen you around.
02:32 Cprossu BotSteve: tell oneyear it worked!
02:32 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when oneyear is around.
02:32 Ponko i'm right here
02:32 astronouth7303 .seen me
02:32 angy P'ky is a ghost!
02:32 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen me around.
02:32 IsopropylAlcohol BotSteve: Tell Botsteve: Tell Botsteve: Tell Botsteve: Tell Botsteve: Tell Botsteve: Tell Botsteve: Tell Botsteve: Tell Botsteve: Tell Botsteve: Tell Botsteve: Tell Botsteve: Hi
02:32 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
02:32 Cprossu BotSteve: tell oneyearonemonth it worked!
02:32 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when oneyearonemonth is around.
02:32 Ponko .seen them
02:32 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen them around.
02:32 Cprossu BotSteve: tell oneyearsixmonths it worked!
02:32 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when oneyearsixmonths is around.
02:32 angy .seen food
02:32 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen food around.
02:32 Ponko helpful >_>
02:32 Cprossu BotSteve: tell twoyears it worked!
02:32 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when twoyears is around.
02:33 IsopropylAlcohol .seen my_balls
02:33 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen my_balls around.
02:33 Cprossu BotSteve: tell twoyearsonemonth it worked!
02:33 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when twoyearsonemonth is around.
02:33 angy BotSteve: tell Cprossu to stop
02:33 BotSteve angy: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
02:33 BotSteve left #thegeekgroup
02:33 egrsteve why all the bot abuse tonight? is it international abuse a bot night?
02:33 IsopropylAlcohol did i kill the bot
02:33 Cprossu brand new bot
02:33 BatSteve Spam protection
02:33 Ponko there are you happy now Cprossu
02:33 IsopropylAlcohol ahh
02:33 angy we can't have nice things
02:33 BatSteve use #tgg-bots for all your spammy needs
02:33 IsopropylAlcohol I was hoping to loop it
02:33 Cprossu ok
02:34 Cprossu we all hope to loop it
02:34 Cprossu but I got my diags now built in
02:34 angy we wanted him to poop
02:34 astronouth7303 egrsteve, major change to the bot. added a persistance system
02:34 IsopropylAlcohol challenge accepted
02:34 egrsteve ah ok, but does it need that much abuse?
02:34 IsopropylAlcohol yes
02:34 astronouth7303 and by "loop" do we mean "make it spam freenode and get kicked"?
02:34 egrsteve botsteve goodnight
02:35 IsopropylAlcohol loop i mean try epeating its own commands to itself
02:35 BotSteve joined #thegeekgroup
02:35 egrsteve astro can you impliment wildcards such as .seen astro*
02:35 Cprossu and respond to itself
02:35 BotSteve Cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
02:35 BotSteve At 02:33Z, angy asked me to tell Cprossu to stop
02:35 Cprossu ok done
02:35 Cprossu I've got all my diags built in
02:36 Cprossu for the next 2 years
02:36 astronouth7303 egrsteve, i actually want to see if we can implement user identification detection
02:36 angy you'll forget them
02:36 astronouth7303 so if you identify, it'll associate you correctly
02:36 Cprossu there's a log of them angy
02:36 egrsteve ah ok
02:36 astronouth7303 *identify with nickserv
02:36 Cprossu I also log mine locally
02:36 astronouth7303 wildcards would be cool, too
02:36 angy ok, let's nuke the bot then
02:36 BatSteve Cprossu: did you check your email?
02:38 Cprossu yeah I am looking at it now smiling BatSteve
02:39 Cprossu rofl.
02:39 nazca_ < injektion> BotSteve: Is it aluminum or aluminium? <--- Aluminium to some, aluminum to me. You can shine like silver all you want, but your just aluminum
02:39 nazca_ or something like that
02:39 Cprossu BatSteve I have to add one more 'if hell freezes over' BotSteve tell though
02:40 astronouth7303 BatSteve, are you working?
02:40 Cprossu BotSteve: tell chanserv OMG CHANSERV SPOKE!
02:40 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when chanserv is around.
02:40 astronouth7303 BatSteve, Did I do well in this code?
02:40 yNos can i speak in the robot's voice?
02:40 BatSteve astronouth7303: you did far better than I would
02:40 Cprossu ^ check it out I made a parity bit for BotSteve
02:41 BatSteve and I'm working, yes
02:41 yNos /msg botsteve voice: hello world?
02:41 BatSteve *if by working you mean poking around at the tell.db
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02:41 yNos how often does dr_jkl get on here?
02:42 astronouth7303 depends on how often mr_hyde gets off his drug rush
02:42 yNos methinks dr_jkl is a grrl
02:42 astronouth7303 yNos, the forum image is probably a good hint
02:42 egrsteve batsteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0m0ujn8FeE
02:43 yNos forum image?
02:43 yNos lolyup
02:43 astronouth7303 i just read "jkl" in my head as "jekel"
02:44 egrsteve batsteve ^^ 727 landing no front gear
02:44 BatSteve egrsteve: just watched it
02:44 BatSteve textbook landing
02:44 BatSteve well done
02:44 egrsteve that is impressive
02:45 egrsteve did he start to close rear gear to lower it?
02:45 BatSteve Pardon me?
02:45 nazca_ astronouth7303: Mr Jive!
02:45 egrsteve it almost looked like the rear gear retracted some as it lowered
02:46 astronouth7303 Nazca, what?
02:46 BatSteve ah, I see
02:46 nazca_ also, I forum post in The Geek Website... sweet talk Moose for me :p
02:46 BatSteve I don't know if the manufacturer recommends that, but I would strongly doubt it.  I'm fairly sure the gear is held in place by overcenter locks, among other things, and if you partially retract them, you lose that reinforcement
02:46 nazca_ astronouth7303: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik​i/Dr._Heckyll_and_Mr._Jive
02:47 astronouth7303 never heard of it
02:47 egrsteve looking agian I think its an illusion of the angle
02:47 nazca_ I've got the opertunity to try this experiment tomorrow, but I need the artwork for it ... otherwise I'll have to wait at least 2-3 weeks :(
02:48 egrsteve what are you trying?
02:48 BatSteve Toastdude: are you around?
02:48 nazca_ some fancy multidepth multipiece laser etching
02:48 BatSteve .seen Toastdude
02:48 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw toastdude 2.05 hours ago at 2011-10-28 00:46:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:48:53 UTC
02:48 egrsteve ah, sounds like fun
02:49 nazca_ should be :)
02:49 Cprossu landing on your jet's nose probably also isn't recommended I bet
02:49 BatSteve nazca_: I think that toastdude might have an SVG of the logo.  I don't know why I think that, but it's sparking some memory
02:49 injektion nazca_, according to the scientific community its aluminium :P
02:49 angy Moose is not connected, so I can't have it for you
02:51 nazca_ injektion: correct, it's the americans that don't like those extra vowels ;)
02:51 injektion I am an American and I use aluminium, colour, grey, etc.
02:51 BatSteve Vowels?  Screw vowels
02:52 BatSteve In my day we didn't have vowels!  You know what we had?  Y!
02:52 egrsteve wh whld u nd vwls?
02:52 BatSteve And we had to share the Y!
02:52 BatSteve And we ENJOYED it.
02:52 BatSteve Not like you kids nowadays with your E and your J!
02:52 BatSteve (Grandpa, J isn't a vowel!)
02:52 BatSteve Don't interrupt!
02:53 IsopropylAlcohol xD
02:54 yNos Cprossu: i just watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPpwLCvPAME
02:54 yNos funny stuff
02:56 injektion It's best in German with the english subs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​-oB6DN5dYWo&amp;feature=related
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02:56 Isopropyl[Kindle weeeee
02:57 astronouth7303 hey kate
02:57 ajprog_laptop yNos: http://grandrapids.craigsli​st.org/mcy/2670377310.html
02:57 Katemonster hey astro
02:57 angy Kate! Lovely Kate!
02:57 Katemonster hi angy
02:58 astronouth7303 have we considered doing something like PISG stats?
02:58 BatSteve Isopropyl|Kindle: are you reading a kindle, or are you IRC'ing *from* a kindle?
02:58 astronouth7303 (even though pisg is terrible software in sore need of updates)
02:58 BatSteve And if the second, you have to inform me of how
02:59 BatSteve what are pisg stats
02:59 Isopropyl|Kindle irc from a kindle
02:59 BatSteve ?
02:59 BatSteve how!?!
02:59 BatSteve I must know!
02:59 sndwrx Is anyone interested in a Geek Group idlerpg?
02:59 ajprog_laptop BatSteve he was using webchat
02:59 BatSteve oh
02:59 Isopropyl|Kindle internet access
02:59 astronouth7303 http://pisg.sourceforge.net/
02:59 BatSteve ...boooo
02:59 BatSteve disregard
02:59 yNos ajprog_laptop, those were ok bikes
02:59 Isopropyl|Kindle lol nobodys written a standalone app for the kindle yet for irc
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03:00 BatSteve That's what I was hoping
03:00 astronouth7303 BatSteve, http://www.firstchat.net/stats is an example page, if you try and render the output in standards
03:00 Isopropyl|Kindle me too
03:00 ajprog_laptop only ok? or decent?
03:00 Katemonster .seen kawaiijess
03:00 BotSteve Katemonster: I last saw kawaiijess 23.59 hours ago at 2011-10-27 03:25:01 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:00:27 UTC
03:00 Obtuse best beer boot advertisement ever ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​zuDtACzKGRs&amp;feature=related
03:00 astronouth7303 Obtuse, I just need more than 5 hours?
03:01 Obtuse haha. yup
03:01 Isopropyl|Kindle obtuse needs a bot named Acute
03:01 Obtuse that would be pretty cool
03:01 BatSteve astronouth7303: that looks cool!
03:02 BatSteve I'm putting that in git as a feature request
03:02 yNos ajprog_laptop depends on how well it was maintained... if itwas stored outside... not so much..
03:02 Isopropyl|Kindle .seen hope
03:02 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen hope around.
03:02 yNos but a new starter at 10K makes me wonder.
03:02 Isopropyl|Kindle .seen justice
03:02 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen justice around.
03:02 Isopropyl|Kindle lol
03:02 injektion|ipad .seen depression
03:02 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen depression around.
03:02 yNos .seen justin
03:02 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen justin around.
03:02 astronouth7303 BatSteve, the problem is that PISG doesn't really use templates, so you'd have to go groking in perl to update it
03:03 yNos .seen kevin
03:03 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen kevin around.
03:03 astronouth7303 but it does do data export
03:03 astronouth7303 or, you know, port it to something sane
03:03 BatSteve .seen kyle
03:03 BotSteve He's about this tall?  Seen Kyle?
03:03 yNos KYLE.
03:03 yNos thats what it was..
03:03 IsopropylAlcohol lol
03:04 BatSteve ::nod::  Thanks astro
03:04 BatSteve So many people keep giving me good ideas.  I wish I was smart and motivated enough to implement them all.
03:05 astronouth7303 PISG is actually something i've used previously
03:05 astronouth7303 but it can be a pain, and you need logs
03:05 BatSteve Well, I've marked it as "Valve Time", so it'll get done when it gets done
03:05 BatSteve (:
03:06 astronouth7303 valve time?
03:06 Isopropyl|Kindle is botsteve coded in python?
03:06 BatSteve .trope valve time
03:06 BotSteve BatSteve: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pm​wiki.php/Memes/ValveSoftware
03:06 astronouth7303 ah
03:06 BatSteve and, more to the point, http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time
03:06 Cprossu .trope lucky charms
03:06 BotSteve Cprossu: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pm​wiki.php/Main/Ptitleg3lzc907
03:06 BatSteve Isopropyl|Kindle: yes he is
03:06 Isopropyl|Kindle and he needs logs?
03:07 astronouth7303 IsopropylAlcohol, no, pisg needs logs to create stats
03:07 Isopropyl|Kindle ah
03:07 astronouth7303 of course, if one rewrites it, log formats are less of an issue
03:08 Isopropyl|Kindle i was gonna say. logging is simple in py
03:08 sndwrx So that's a no on the IdleRPG?  :)
03:09 IsopropylAlcohol ooh idlerpg
03:09 IsopropylAlcohol sounds fun
03:09 IsopropylAlcohol .roll
03:09 IsopropylAlcohol wait thats my bot
03:10 sndwrx I'm changing the conf for my own IdleRPG bot, was thinking about setting one up for TGG.
03:10 IsopropylAlcohol :D
03:10 * nazca_ goes do stuffs
03:11 Toastdude BatSteve!
03:11 astronouth7303 ... it's astounding how much trope there is in portal
03:13 Toastdude You here BatSteve ?
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03:17 IsopropylAlcohol :D
03:17 astronouth7303 IsopropylAlcohol, what do you use?
03:17 IsopropylAlcohol I forgot about you my little friend
03:17 IsopropylAlcohol I used twisted
03:17 egrsteve cprossu you there
03:18 astronouth7303 oh, your own custom thing
03:18 IsopropylAlcohol twisted python
03:18 IsopropylAlcohol and some hand coding
03:18 astronouth7303 i know twisted
03:18 IsopropylAlcohol yea
03:18 IsopropylAlcohol i used the irc module
03:18 egrsteve .seen cprossu
03:18 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw cprossu 0.20 hours ago at 2011-10-28 03:06:32 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:18:37 UTC
03:18 astronouth7303 BotSteve uses phenny, and my bot uses superbot
03:18 egrsteve .seen angy
03:18 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw angy 0.35 hours ago at 2011-10-28 02:57:48 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:18:45 UTC
03:18 IsopropylAlcohol !help
03:19 IsopropylAlcohol !roll 20
03:19 BotpropylAlcobot IsopropylAlcohol rolled: 7
03:19 IsopropylAlcohol hmm
03:19 IsopropylAlcohol i didn't crit
03:20 IsopropylAlcohol ohh crapdoo my kindles updating after i just jailbroke it
03:20 IsopropylAlcohol lame
03:20 Katemonster ...why do i sense the impending creation of a #tgg_rp channel?
03:20 IsopropylAlcohol xD
03:21 astronouth7303 as long as it's not #tgg-rp-nsfw
03:21 IsopropylAlcohol :3
03:21 BatSteve Katemonster: tgg-rp, not _rp
03:21 Katemonster ha ha ow
03:21 BatSteve we have enough separators as it is
03:21 Katemonster no underscore?
03:21 BatSteve we don't need more underscore/hyphen confusion
03:21 Katemonster lol okay
03:21 IsopropylAlcohol a-r-e-y-o-u-s-u-r-e-?
03:21 astronouth7303 dashes is more common than underscores for channel names
03:21 BatSteve I blame seroster for _nsfw
03:22 * IsopropylAlcohol loves team viewer
03:22 Toastdude nazca_: Will PNG work?
03:22 BatSteve and masterofmonks for some reason decided that #tgg:studio should have a colon
03:22 BatSteve which I *still* don't understand
03:22 Katemonster hah
03:23 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 10-27-11 Video shoot for Haas CNC gear.mp4 http://youtu.be/D0v_OCrCTw4
03:23 IsopropylAlcohol !quit
03:23 IsopropylAlcohol !kill
03:23 BatSteve Sgt_Lemming: before you ask, no, there's still no .video
03:23 IsopropylAlcohol Get up
03:23 BotpropylAlcobot Get on up!
03:23 Sgt_Lemming rofl
03:23 egrsteve botsteve: tell cprossu the HVL heat is most likly shuting off on a overtemp sensor in the unit because the air is resurculating and not heating the room, basicly the discharge temp of the air needs to be reduced to cause it to fall and not get picked back up by the return
03:23 BotSteve egrsteve: I'll pass that on when cprossu is around.
03:23 IsopropylAlcohol Get up
03:23 BotpropylAlcobot Get on up!
03:23 IsopropylAlcohol and dance
03:23 IsopropylAlcohol and dance!
03:23 IsopropylAlcohol hmm
03:23 BatSteve but now that astro has implemented a freakishly neat storage system, it shouldn't be long in coming
03:23 BatSteve I hope
03:23 IsopropylAlcohol yuno dance
03:24 IsopropylAlcohol and Dance!
03:24 IsopropylAlcohol arrg
03:24 egrsteve this is a no dancing channel, it is not safe to dance here
03:24 IsopropylAlcohol failbot
03:24 IsopropylAlcohol Get up
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot Get on up!
03:24 IsopropylAlcohol Get up
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot Get on up!
03:24 IsopropylAlcohol And dance
03:24 IsopropylAlcohol And dance!
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :D-|-<
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :o-/-<
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :D-|-<
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :P-\-<
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :D-|-<
03:24 IsopropylAlcohol ARRRG
03:24 sndwrx IsopropylAlcohol:  I just made #tgg-IdleRPG if you and anyone else want to join.
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :D-/-<
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :o-|-<
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :D-|-<
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :o-/-<
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :D-|-<
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :P-\-<
03:24 BotpropylAlcobot :D-|-<
03:25 BotpropylAlcobot :D-/-<
03:25 BotpropylAlcobot :o-|-<
03:25 IsopropylAlcohol lol
03:25 astronouth7303 ... what.
03:25 IsopropylAlcohol xD
03:25 egrsteve please don't spam the channel
03:25 IsopropylAlcohol lol ok
03:26 BatSteve hahaha
03:26 BatSteve Classic
03:26 IsopropylAlcohol !uptime
03:26 BotpropylAlcobot I've been alive for 0.00002 years, which is 0.00021 months, or could be considered 0.00092 weeks, and thats 0.00644 days, which is also 0.15467 hours, to go further 9.27995 minutes, which can be considered 556.79700 seconds!
03:26 Cprossu oh god lol
03:26 BotSteve Cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
03:26 BotSteve At 03:23Z, egrsteve asked me to tell Cprossu the HVL heat is most likly shuting off on a overtemp sensor in the unit because the air is resurculating and not heating the room, basicly the discharge temp of the air needs to be reduced to cause it to fall and not get picked back up by the return
03:27 Cprossu egrsteve I had an idea that I am trying now
03:27 Cprossu I'm raising hvl by 1deg manually and have it cycling
03:27 egrsteve what are you trying?
03:27 Cprossu it seems to be able to do it so far
03:27 egrsteve I doubt it will help in the long run
03:27 Cprossu up to 67F now
03:27 Toastdude Your bot wont let me message it, IsopropylAlcohol
03:27 Cprossu no but it will make it to 70F by the morning
03:27 Toastdude :(
03:28 IsopropylAlcohol you don't it messages you
03:28 IsopropylAlcohol use !help in channel
03:28 egrsteve we would be better installing deflectors to push the hot air down
03:28 Toastdude !help
03:29 Toastdude <BotpropylAlcobot> Please do not message me.
03:29 egrsteve we need to fix the problem not avoid it
03:29 IsopropylAlcohol hmm
03:29 Cprossu what will fix it in the long run is ripping everything out, unbending what needs to be, and making a system that makes sense
03:29 egrsteve or for now reducing output air temp
03:30 egrsteve but that means fussing with gas regulation
03:30 egrsteve the system makes scense, except it's on the roof backwards
03:30 Cprossu and the vents appear to be..uh pointed to the ceiling
03:31 egrsteve then we might need to flip the vents
03:31 egrsteve as that might be out problem, heat can't get to the floor
03:31 Cprossu *grabs IR laser thermo and heads to HVL to make sure it cycled*
03:31 egrsteve when do you leave for home?
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03:33 Cprossu soon
03:33 Cprossu sunday to be exact
03:34 egrsteve ok, so you will be there this weekend
03:34 Cprossu sorta
03:34 Cprossu leaving in the morning on sun
03:35 Cprossu probably gone by 8:45
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03:35 Cprossu a
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03:36 IsopropylAlcohol !help
03:36 IsopropylAlcohol works now
03:37 IsopropylAlcohol !calc 45+99*5
03:37 BotpropylAlcobot 540
03:38 IsopropylAlcohol !calc 2^2
03:38 BotpropylAlcobot 0
03:38 IsopropylAlcohol >.>
03:38 yNos just watched the captain's blog
03:38 yNos i do have to say
03:38 IsopropylAlcohol !calc 2*2
03:38 BotpropylAlcobot 4
03:38 IsopropylAlcohol brb
03:38 yNos it was fcking hilarius watching jabroni's face today.
03:38 Toastdude !calc Pi
03:39 yNos this may take a while
03:39 Toastdude Implamant that!
03:39 BatSteve wait
03:39 BatSteve there's someone at the lab actually named jabroni?
03:39 Toastdude Jabroni!
03:40 Toastdude Is Steve
03:40 Toastdude I met him..
03:40 BatSteve hahahahhaa that's awesome
03:40 yNos his real name is steve belatini or something like that
03:40 Toastdude Ikr?
03:40 yNos there are too many steves there
03:40 yNos so most of them have other names.
03:40 Toastdude Yep, I agree
03:40 angy but his face was magic
03:40 Toastdude Like Bats and Jabroni
03:41 yNos batman is andrew
03:41 Obtuse i'm andrew, cprossu is andrew
03:41 yNos yup
03:41 Toastdude And I'm Andrew
03:41 astronouth7303 ...
03:42 astronouth7303 andrews and steves
03:42 astronouth7303 i'm glad i'm an astro
03:42 Toastdude Too many Andrews...
03:42 egrsteve I'm steve too
03:42 angy .cookie Steve
03:42 BotSteve Here you go, Steve, I baked you a double chocolate chip cookie!
03:42 angy Mega cookie for Steves
03:42 Toastdude .cookie all Andrews
03:42 BotSteve Here you go, all Andrews, I baked you a butter pecan cookie!
03:42 Toastdude .cookie every Andrew
03:42 BotSteve Here you go, every Andrew, I baked you an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie!
03:43 Toastdude Ther3e
03:43 Toastdude *there
03:44 BatSteve Anybody ever seen Hot Fuzz?
03:44 astronouth7303 BatSteve, yes
03:44 Cprossu and batman is andrew
03:44 BatSteve And if so, did anybody watch the director's commentary version?
03:44 Cprossu lol
03:44 BatSteve Where they talk about how a surprisingly large number of British police officers are named either Andrew or Nick?
03:45 Cprossu surprisingly not steve?
03:45 Cprossu eh?
03:45 yNos Cprossu: could you do me a major favor?
03:45 yNos oh
03:45 yNos nvm..
03:45 Cprossu possib ab ly
03:45 Cprossu nvm?
03:45 Cprossu bah
03:45 yNos not sure if there is a phone cord around there..
03:45 Cprossu 2 wire
03:45 yNos yeah
03:45 Cprossu but yeah we have phone cords
03:45 Ponko PUT THAT COOKIE DOWN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:46 Cprossu and I know where they are too
03:46 BatSteve Nope, not steves
03:46 Cprossu brb yNos I am dusting out a heatsink
03:47 angy We'll have a special cookie for you P'ky
03:47 Toastdude Angy!
03:48 angy Toasty!
03:48 angy .cookie Toastdude
03:48 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I baked you a chocolate rainbow cookie!
03:48 yNos can you plug into the phone port on the voip box behind the comcast phone box - pick up the handset and dial **** - 110# to see if it has an address. if it has a 10.30.2 address, hit 101#
03:48 angy you can't have it if you already brushed your teeth though
03:48 yNos i have been forgetting to do that...
03:48 Toastdude Thanks!
03:48 Toastdude .cookie angy
03:48 BotSteve Here you go, angy, I baked you a pecan cookie!
03:49 Cprossu let me check
03:51 yNos that little voip box has been trying pretty hard to connect to my machine here at home...
03:51 yNos not sure if it is actually landing here...
03:51 yNos but he is trying.
03:52 sndwrx There we go.
03:53 sndwrx Announcement:  IdleRPG game set up at #gg-IdleRPG for all who wish to join.  :)
03:53 yNos here is a cheatsheet if you are wondering : http://www.asteriskguru.com/tuto​rials/sipura_phone_adapter.html
03:53 yNos what is idletpg?
03:53 sndwrx obtuse, see PM
03:53 yNos **idlerpg
03:54 BatSteve sndwrx: why gg and not tgg
03:54 BatSteve ?
03:54 sndwrx oops
03:54 sndwrx Yes it is tgg
03:54 sndwrx #tgg-IdleRPG
03:55 sndwrx yNos:  It's an RPG in which the object is to idle.
03:55 sndwrx BatSteve:  you're only penalized once you're logged into the game.
03:55 yNos ahh
03:56 sndwrx BatSteve:  Use /msg tgg|idlebot register charactername password class description
03:56 yNos so just leaving it logged in all the time makes you win.
03:56 sndwrx Exactly.
03:56 Cprossu do we have a different phone laying around yNos?
03:56 sndwrx Er well, not entirely.
03:57 BatSteve interesting
03:57 sndwrx There are battles and calamities and things that affect your character's progress.
03:58 sndwrx :D
03:58 astronouth7303 but if you do anything about them, you make them worse
03:58 sndwrx This version doesn't have as many features as something like MultiRPG, but I can't seem to find MultiRPG source.
03:58 yNos Cprossu: i dont know.. i think there are a few in dave's office on the halfwall
03:59 sndwrx Or any other IdleRPG source for that matter, but I didn't look very hard.
04:00 yNos ohdamn
04:00 yNos its midnight.
04:00 yNos i need to wake up in 6 hrs.
04:00 * yNos powersleeps
04:00 Cprossu 12vdc brb
04:03 astronouth7303 and so we see who can go the longest
04:03 astronouth7303 clearly, i should have started a bot to do it
04:04 angy and if you run a bouncer? is it considered cheating?
04:04 astronouth7303 hmmm....
04:04 astronouth7303 i see why not; most of us just leave it running anyway
04:05 angy yeah, but not really in the same conditions ;)
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04:09 Cprossu yNos nothing seems to be working
04:09 yNos hrm
04:09 yNos do you get dead air?
04:09 yNos or not even that?
04:11 Cprossu not even but I have a powered phone that will dial anyway
04:11 Cprossu wait
04:11 Cprossu GOT SOMETHING
04:11 yNos ahh..
04:11 yNos yeah?
04:12 Cprossu 10.100.1.30
04:12 yNos badass
04:13 astronouth7303 sndwrx, which idlerpg are you using?
04:14 Cprossu anything else you want me to do on that sys yNos?
04:14 yNos erm..
04:14 yNos i dont remember the unername/pass
04:14 yNos so i think we are good for now.
04:15 yNos doesnt look like i knows how to get out to the internets..
04:15 sndwrx astronouth7303: Standard idlerpg.net source, except I bumped up the leveling time from 10 minutes to five minutes.
04:15 yNos **it
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04:18 astronouth7303 ok, i'm going now. g'night world
04:18 DruidicRifleman any ways night
04:18 angy night astro
04:18 BatSteve so long astro
04:18 Toastdude Night astronouth7303
04:18 sndwrx night astro.
04:32 yNos ok
04:32 yNos i have done all the damage i can do tonight
04:32 yNos g'nite all
04:32 ajprog_laptop goodnight
04:32 sndwrx night yNos
04:32 ajprog_laptop you coming in tomorrow?
04:32 Toastdude Night yNos
04:32 yNos ajprog_laptop: not sure...
04:32 Toastdude I'm going too. Night!
04:32 yNos likely though
04:32 * yNos waves
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04:36 angy Yay! 2 Ponkies
04:38 Ponko1 huzah
04:38 Ponko1 flipping thing
04:38 egrsteve night]
04:38 Ponko i'm off now anyway
04:39 Ponko laters
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04:43 lwq1996 hi
04:44 sndwrx hey lwq1996
04:44 BatSteve hey lwq
04:44 lwq1996 boy its late...
04:44 lwq1996 i slept to long
04:47 lwq1996 heh :) http://www.photoblip.com/pictures/1215/one-of-t​he-few-times-family-guy-has-made-me-laugh.html
04:56 lwq1996 http://www.damnlol.com/horsey-ride-9413.html
05:01 sndwrx ha
05:02 lwq1996 lol
05:06 BatSteve time to go - goodnight everyone
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05:23 angy Seroster!
05:24 lwq1996 hi you stalker :P
05:24 Seroster Either you pulled an all nighter, or you slept as little as I did, or you are a fucking robot
05:24 Seroster I still love you angy
05:24 Seroster Hello there cutsie pie
05:24 lwq1996 lol
05:24 angy I may be all of the three at once
05:24 lwq1996 lol
05:26 Seroster Angy, how old are you you sick bastard?
05:26 lwq1996 now is that any way we talk to dady
05:26 Seroster Gotta get ready for school
05:26 angy roughly 5 years older than you are lovely eskimo
05:26 Seroster If daddy is a sick bastard, yeah, lwq1996 =P
05:26 lwq1996 lol
05:26 Seroster angy, Foreskin?
05:27 lwq1996 0.o
05:27 angy that's so going to be nsfw
05:27 Seroster Im too damn tired to make sense
05:27 lwq1996 lol
05:27 Seroster (Assuming I EVER make sense)
05:27 angy you do
05:28 angy at least, you did at least once
05:28 lwq1996 lol
05:28 angy but school is a good place to sleep
05:28 angy and he can also be a good mean to slep
05:29 lwq1996 lol
05:29 lwq1996 i need to go to bed soon
05:29 * egrsteve needs sleep
05:29 angy .skittles egrsteve
05:29 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I got you some cherry skittles!
05:29 egrsteve zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
05:29 lwq1996 hi steve
05:29 egrsteve night all, i need to be up by 7
05:29 angy :)
05:30 angy I need to go fondle Seroster
05:30 * angy fondles Seroster
05:30 angy there, better already
05:30 lwq1996 lol i need to be up by 6
05:30 lwq1996 nsfw?
05:30 egrsteve 7 edt
05:30 lwq1996 edt?
05:31 egrsteve estern daylight time ie 5.5 hours
05:31 lwq1996 oh
05:31 lwq1996 and its what time now
05:31 egrsteve 1:30 edt
05:32 lwq1996 wow
05:32 egrsteve your getting a couple more hours then me
05:32 lwq1996 yup
05:32 angy you should try sleeping in classes steve
05:32 angy works great :)
05:32 lwq1996 wait steve i live in pa
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05:34 Seroster lwq1996, Fondling doesnt count as nsfw xD
05:34 Seroster Hi there Electricguy
05:35 lwq1996 lol
05:36 * lwq1996 fondles seroster
05:36 angy DON'T fondle him!
05:36 angy ok, time to head to GH
05:36 angy see ya!
05:37 lwq1996 lol
05:37 * Seroster kicks lwq1996
05:37 lwq1996 OUCH
05:37 dr_jkl ngh
05:37 lwq1996 death to your childern...oh god if you ever have any
05:38 lwq1996 @seroster
05:38 lwq1996 hi dr_jkl
05:39 dr_jkl heya.
05:42 Seroster lwq1996, I wont the coming five years
05:43 lwq1996 im afraid to ask why
05:44 Seroster Very simple and relatively SFW, IUD.
05:44 lwq1996 iud?
05:44 Seroster .w IUD
05:44 BotSteve "The intrauterine device (IUD) is a form of birth control; it is an object placed in the uterus to prevent pregnancy." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IUD
05:45 lwq1996 oh
05:46 dr_jkl and that's as close as you'll ever get to Seroster's uterus. :)
05:46 lwq1996 ew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:46 Seroster dr_jkl, I don't even have an uterus.
05:47 dr_jkl nobody's perfect!
05:47 Seroster Cept for me
05:47 lwq1996 no...cept for chris
05:47 * Seroster kicks lwq1996
05:48 dr_jkl wha
05:48 * lwq1996 bites serosters thing off
05:48 lwq1996 I CAN PLAY TOO
05:50 Electricguy 'lo all
05:50 lwq1996 hi
05:50 Seroster Gotta go
05:50 Seroster NAOH
05:51 lwq1996 lol
05:54 * lwq1996 pets dr_jkl
05:54 lwq1996 GOOD DOGGY
05:57 * angy fondles Seroster
05:57 lwq1996 he had to go
05:57 angy that's sad
05:58 angy I miss him already
05:58 lwq1996 how can someone miss seroster
05:58 dr_jkl a
05:58 dr_jkl w
05:59 lwq1996 lol
06:01 angy :)
06:01 lwq1996 my hand hurts for soe reason
06:01 angy Hi dr_jkl
06:04 dr_jkl hey angy
06:04 dr_jkl how come you never told me you're so cute?
06:05 lwq1996 lol
06:05 angy :)
06:05 Sgt_Lemming eep, starting to run out of space on my HD movies drive...
06:05 Sgt_Lemming down to 200GB free, out of 2TB
06:05 lwq1996 lol
06:06 Sgt_Lemming I did just add 75GB of star wars to it :-P
06:08 lwq1996 lol
06:09 Sgt_Lemming all 6 movies in 1080p
06:10 angy time to sleep, see ya!
06:10 Sgt_Lemming see ya
06:18 devast8a Ooooo
06:18 devast8a 1080p
06:23 Sgt_Lemming indeed
06:23 Sythen mornin all
06:23 Sgt_Lemming we also just so happen to have a 55" 1080p tv in the loungeroom devast8a
06:23 lwq1996 night sytehn
06:23 lwq1996 night eveyone else
06:23 Sythen ello lee
06:23 Sgt_Lemming might be time for a geekend watching all the star wars movies
06:23 Sythen goodbye lee
06:23 Sgt_Lemming night lee
06:31 Sgt_Lemming welp, I now have > 200 hd movies
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09:08 masterofmonks BatSteve-Away: Because it is gramatically correct.
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09:12 LemPhone on the train instead of the bus for a change
09:13 LemPhone missed the previous train by a few minutes, kinda annoyed about that
09:13 LemPhone coulda sworn the timetable at home said 6:58, but the one at the station says 6:52
09:14 LemPhone will have to check it when I get home
09:16 LemPhone and sif no-one be awake!
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12:06 egrsteve morning internet
12:07 dbshortwave mornin
12:13 dbshortwave wow holy hell i thought today was yesterday
12:15 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what type of heater is this?
12:17 tonsofpcs morning egrsteve, dbshortwave
12:22 dbshortwave morning tonsofpcs
12:22 dbshortwave i need to go reboot my modem
12:23 Experimentonomen wow what a difference!! this bjt amp is not at all as crystal clear as the lajet amp with the jfet in
12:23 Experimentonomen lafet*
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12:32 egrsteve morning tonsofpcs
12:34 egrsteve morning cprossu
12:35 tonsofpcs *off to work*
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12:40 Dibblah Heh. http://www.dealextreme.com/p/multi-fun​ction-steel-hammer-tool-silver-103680 - Stop! (gerber ninja) hammer time!
12:42 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​a_5RJzEg9Dg&amp;feature=related
12:42 Hackbat :D
12:48 egrsteve yay, first class almost done
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12:53 Experimentonomen g'day Dibblah
12:54 yNos AT&T is experiencing an outage on their MPLS network atm...
12:54 Hackbat oh knows!
12:55 yNos my workplace is not down from a 200mbit connection to a 20.
12:55 yNos sorry
12:55 yNos 70
12:55 yNos makes internet painful...
12:55 yNos and i need to research..
12:56 Dibblah Hey, Experimentonomen.
12:57 Dibblah So this is where you're hanging out new.
12:57 Dibblah now
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13:02 yNos Dibblah, he is generally quiet... at least at the times i am online.
13:03 Hackbat >_-
13:03 * Hackbat has a 15 mbit connection for his house
13:04 Hackbat 70 would be a dream right now
13:05 Dibblah Anyone else making LeDominoux?
13:05 * Experimentonomen plays loud music on the prototype
13:05 Dibblah I currently have a bunch of 20 of the NAND versions...
13:06 Dibblah Too pretty / not enough sparks for this channel, I guess :)
13:08 Experimentonomen Dibblah: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Y2Q4FrEvE
13:08 yNos Hackbat, you are not sharing your bandwidth with ~4k of your closest friends.
13:08 Hackbat true
13:09 Hackbat but I use the bandwidth for 20 average users
13:10 Hackbat I wish we had south korea's internet infrastructure
13:13 MadManMarkAu Experimentonomen: WTF? 10V/div??
13:13 Experimentonomen yes
13:13 * MadManMarkAu waits for the *pop*
13:14 MadManMarkAu Either that or the gate sat
13:14 MadManMarkAu Well, there's the saturation :/
13:15 Experimentonomen no thats clipping
13:15 MadManMarkAu Oh
13:15 Experimentonomen where voltage cannot rise any further
13:15 MadManMarkAu Yah
13:15 Experimentonomen but its putting out peaks over 20V into a 4 ohm load, from a 80VA psu
13:16 MadManMarkAu Oh, the scope is on the output?
13:16 Experimentonomen yes
13:16 MadManMarkAu Aaaah
13:16 yNos lololol grammar rule of the day.. explained. "The Oxford Comma"
13:16 yNos http://stephentall.org/wp-content​/uploads/2011/09/oxford-comma.jpg
13:16 MadManMarkAu damn, I thought it was phone -> preamp -> amp
13:17 MadManMarkAu and you were metering the amp input
13:17 MadManMarkAu lol, yNos
13:18 yNos it made me lol.
13:18 yNos thought i'd share..
13:19 MadManMarkAu Experimentonomen: Was it you that did the ChipTune arduino version?
13:20 Experimentonomen kindof
13:20 Experimentonomen heres schem of amp: http://i.imgur.com/Lo3a7.png
13:21 NeWtoz I learned the second method of comma usage
13:22 MadManMarkAu I learnt the second method, too
13:22 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc7pJPUAWdU
13:22 MadManMarkAu And Experimentonomen, that's a sexy schematic. You've done this before?
13:23 Experimentonomen i've been designing and building amplifiers for a few months and worked with schematics for years
13:23 MadManMarkAu Awse
13:23 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/WMYI3.png
13:23 MadManMarkAu And regarding the ChipTune, I copied your project, but it sounds horrible. Notes not cutting off. I do believe it is the data file
13:24 MadManMarkAu Nice
13:28 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/P7cYWh.png
13:28 Experimentonomen i may offer kits and/or assampled modules of this project
13:31 MadManMarkAu I wonder...
13:31 MadManMarkAu Is there a market for a modular amp kit/product?
13:32 MadManMarkAu I've seem solid state RF amps on the new Rhode & Schwarz transmitter at the TV site
13:32 MadManMarkAu *seen
13:32 MadManMarkAu Those amps are modular, there is a rack of 15 of them that work together to provice the 20kW output
13:32 MadManMarkAu I wonder if there is/could be a similar system for audio amps
13:33 MadManMarkAu You buy as many "modules" as you want output power
13:33 MadManMarkAu Just stack them and go...
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13:38 dbshortwave holy crapple
13:38 MadManMarkAu ?
13:38 dbshortwave there was something up with my DSL modem
13:38 dbshortwave not sure what it was
13:39 Av_Nekoroms i needed to do factory reset to my modem to stop if from seizing up all the time
13:39 * MadManMarkAu is thinking "a blockage in the series of tubes"
13:40 * MadManMarkAu has also had too much sugar >_>
13:41 dbshortwave mmm
13:41 dbshortwave http://www.the-whiteboard.com/
13:41 dbshortwave lol
13:42 egrsteve|away MadManMarkAu the closest thing to expandable audio amps is running 2 in a bridged confifuration
13:48 egrsteve|away as most audio systems you need to drive speaker clusters independently in order to set delay times propper
14:08 yNos egrsteve|away: did cprossu talk to you about wrapping audio baluns?
14:09 yNos he has a stack of small toroids to play with to test with.
14:10 egrsteve|away could be interesting
14:10 egrsteve|away audio transformers are an intersting challenge
14:11 yNos how so?
14:11 yNos ynos.us/amidon-balun.jpg
14:11 yNos for their RF coisins.
14:11 yNos **cousins...
14:12 angy boo!
14:13 yNos g'mornin angy
14:14 yNos egrsteve do you know what the input/output impedance ratio should be?
14:14 dbshortwave ROFL Paul Kidwel "you sir, are a complete bastard!"
14:16 egrsteve|away from what to what?
14:16 yNos i dont know
14:16 yNos i am not sure what he is trying to accomplish.
14:17 yNos he just asked how much i knew about baluns..
14:17 yNos i have wound a few in my day.. usually in the 3-30 mhz range of usefullness...
14:17 egrsteve|away balanced is ussually 600ohm, unbal 10k ohm
14:18 yNos so approx 16:1
14:18 egrsteve|away basicly
14:20 yNos so.. here would be an un-un that would need a 1:1 balun.. http://www.mydarc.de/dh1ply/balun16prinzip.jpg
14:21 yNos and here is a 16:1 with 2 cores...
14:21 yNos http://www.marcspages.co.uk/tech/2102b.gif
14:21 yNos http://www.mydarc.de/dh1ply/balun16prinzip.jpg
14:22 yNos derp.. sorry about the ^ spam
14:23 * Experimentonomen looks at yNos
14:23 yNos since we dont know the permiability of the cores at audio freqs... i couldnt tell you how many turns each leg needs.
14:23 egrsteve|away that is a single core, multi winding
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14:24 egrsteve|away there is 4 windings on that core
14:24 egrsteve|away and a mess to wire
14:25 yNos quadrifallar winding sucks...
14:25 egrsteve|away all 4 windings should be the same number of turn
14:25 yNos that is why i said 2 cores ;)
14:25 egrsteve|away it needs to be a common core
14:26 egrsteve|away as it's a coil then 4 in series
14:26 yNos a ferite stick would be better for this application...
14:26 egrsteve|away but a torroid would function better :(
14:28 SparkyProjects MadManMarkAu: I think modular output stages would be possible, 'parrallelling' the output transistors (along with their matching network) would increase the power, but is not a good idea as people without the knowledge may overdo it, especially as they'd need to upgrade the supply, far better to have power amps that can be stacked with their inputs  on a common mixer rail, and each output going to their own stac
14:28 yNos i have bigger toroids... the little ones he has might be a problem fitting more than 6-8 widings of 22ga..
14:29 egrsteve|away it might be enough as the AF will saturate the core quickly
14:29 yNos http://www.marcspages.co.uk/tech/2102.htm <- this looks intersting.. i think i need to find a couple 50 watt 400 ohm non-inductive resistors...
14:29 yNos do you know how to test core permiability?
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14:30 yNos LEE
14:30 yNos !
14:31 lwq1996 sorry gtg
14:31 lwq1996 damn
14:33 egrsteve|away no i do not
14:34 egrsteve|away signal gen and CT I suppsoe see when it driops off
14:40 yNos i dont have an audio signal gen.. but we can make one easy'nuff
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14:47 yNos lol
14:48 yNos how can you have a "wirewound non-inductive" resistor?
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15:08 Experimentonomen u wind it such that the inductance cancels itself out
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15:50 Sgt_Lemming home again
15:50 Sgt_Lemming missed the last train home
15:50 Sgt_Lemming $65 cab ride later >_<
15:53 Sgt_Lemming ynos, reverse wrap winding?
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15:59 LinuxH4x0r morning folks
16:02 LinuxH4x0r taking ics-100.b
16:02 LinuxH4x0r bleh
16:10 yNos Sgt_Lemming: halfway down reverse the direction of the winding?
16:10 Sgt_Lemming that might work
16:10 yNos i guess that'd work...
16:11 Sgt_Lemming you'd probably still get some inductance from that though
16:11 Sgt_Lemming I was more thinking of having a line of pins along one side, and the wire wraps around a pin and reverses direction
16:12 Sgt_Lemming so it's be like a long zigzag, rather than a coil
16:12 SparkyProjects If you take a length of resitive wire of the right value and fold it in half, then wind the doubled length onto a former
16:12 Sgt_Lemming that'd work too SparkyProjects, but insulating it would be difficult
16:13 SparkyProjects I wondr if coating in a flexible varnish would work for that, otherwise you'd have to space the windings
16:14 SparkyProjects coat and allow to dry before winding
16:15 sndwrx What about plasti dip or something like that?
16:16 sndwrx You know, that rubbery stuff that you can dip tool handles into.
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16:17 SparkyProjects If it can coat thin enough and be able to stand the heat (if any)
16:17 Sgt_Lemming if you had a double spiral former, you could do a length of wire folded over
16:17 egrsteve|away moring
16:18 SparkyProjects egrsteve|away: has a boat ? O.O
16:18 SparkyProjects :D
16:18 egrsteve|away yes, and if I'm not quick it going to float downstream
16:19 electricguy industrial rave :3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrnmUJjo_9c
16:21 * LinuxH4x0r bangs head into desk
16:22 LinuxH4x0r the dhs sure knows how to make things overly complicated and boring
16:22 Sgt_Lemming heh
16:23 LinuxH4x0r i have to take the online fema courses to get my field cert. for search and rescue
16:23 LinuxH4x0r :/
16:24 sndwrx Has anyone messed with multi-seat computing?
16:24 LinuxH4x0r ?
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16:26 sndwrx Utilizing one computer with multiple "terminals".  I.E., one machine with two or more monitors, keyboards and mice to all behave in separate desktop environments simulating like they're running individual computers.
16:26 LinuxH4x0r nope, never messed with that
16:26 * sndwrx nods.
16:27 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wi​ki/Multiseat_configuration
16:27 sndwrx Yeah, I've done a bunch of research and fiddled around a little, but I hoped someone here had real-world experience.  :)
16:47 Hackbat there's something wrong about drinking mtn dew out of a coke glass
16:48 Sgt_Lemming lol
16:51 Hackbat http://www.amazon.com/Libbey-Coca-Cola​-14-Ounce-Georgia-Green/dp/B000C14WHE
16:51 Hackbat this but more green
17:06 angy time to automate cisco things!
17:09 egrsteve automation!
17:09 egrsteve lets use bert an ernie adn a physical layer to automate teh network
17:18 angy :)
17:19 egrsteve physical automation :)
17:19 angy I need Seroster for that one =P
17:19 egrsteve um... no
17:23 angy ;)
17:30 angy for the physical part, the automation one, not sure :p
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17:54 egrsteve chat is dead today
17:55 angy .cookie egrsteve
17:55 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you an oatmeal cookie!
17:55 egrsteve .seen cprossu
17:55 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw cprossu 13.69 hours ago at 2011-10-28 04:14:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:55:32 UTC
18:02 Seroster ARRR
18:02 * angy fondles Seroster
18:02 * Seroster refondles angy
18:03 * angy purrs at Seroster
18:03 * Seroster cuts angys claws
18:04 angy noooooo
18:08 Hackbat >_<
18:08 Hackbat http://tank-dog.blogspot.com/2011/10/t​angent-as-link-and-epic-as-fairy.html
18:08 Hackbat wtf man
18:14 IsopropylAlcohol This is.. awesome. 'm chewing on a strawberry cough drop and drinking milk. One would think it'd be nasty but, it actually tastes like strawberry milk :3
18:15 * IsopropylAlcohol makes note to do this more often
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18:20 mashpriborintorg hello all
18:21 mashpriborintorg yay I received my blackbox
18:21 * angy fondles Seroster
18:22 dbshortwave thats crap tastic
18:29 IsopropylAlcohol lol
18:31 mashpriborintorg I'd like to activable the acoustic beacon, but will be probably unable to stop it then
18:32 Seroster bacon?
18:32 Seroster Ah
18:32 Seroster Beacon
18:32 Seroster Fuck it.
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18:36 * angy rubs bacon on Seroster
18:37 mashpriborintorg it has no pushbutton Seroster , so it will not give out bacon
18:37 Seroster God damn it
18:37 Seroster We need more bacon
18:38 Seroster Today the school food was chicken soup with bacon
18:42 Experimentonomen hm
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18:54 yNos hmmm... who thinks it would be cool to have dynamic dns setup.. something like ynos.members.thegeekgroup.org
18:55 dbshortwave it be intresting
18:56 dbshortwave starting your own interwebs service?
18:56 yNos no, am playing with the dns server is setup at thegeekgroup.org.
18:56 yNos well
18:56 yNos at lsl
18:57 yNos am waiting to have lsl.thegeekgroup.org glued into our name server..
18:57 yNos i will need to talk to moose about it.
18:58 yNos already sent her the info.. not sure if our current dns provider can sub-zone easily.
18:58 * dbshortwave nods
18:59 dbshortwave im being eyeballed
19:00 yNos sounds like you need a knitting needle
19:00 dbshortwave cat wants in my lap lol
19:02 angy it's not often you can find a provider that allows sub-zones
19:05 dbshortwave it would be intresting
19:07 SparkyProjects Not sure if this is what you mean, but my provider (Strato) can point any domain or subdomain to any website, and i know Godaddy can with the A records
19:07 SparkyProjects I've used it to 'integrate' a hosted forum with my domain
19:07 angy we want to go one step beyond that
19:07 angy pointing not the A record, but the NS one
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19:08 SparkyProjects Yep, to do the integration i had to update the NS records
19:08 angy P'ky!
19:08 angy no, we want to have another NS record, not update the NS record
19:09 Ponko alright angy :)
19:09 angy how's UK today?
19:10 Ponko good how's Canada
19:10 angy no idea, I'm in USA right now :)
19:10 angy but I'm sure not to be mistaken by saying cold
19:11 Ponko oh of course yes i forgot about that
19:11 Ponko and yeah thats MI for you lol
19:12 Ponko damn my man aint here
19:13 Ponko i'd of ask him if he'd fly a few of these planes on this poster i've got
19:15 injektion When in the hell did cars get an automatic transmission thermostat
19:15 Ponko o_O that's new to me
19:15 Ponko lol
19:18 injektion >BMW E46
19:18 injektion Explains everything
19:18 Ponko ah well there you go lol
19:19 injektion The E46 was quite terrible
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19:20 injektion My 25 year old BMW E28 535is doesn't have nowhere near those expensive problems
19:20 Ponko its madness but it's a cashcow
19:21 lwq1996 hi
19:21 injektion My E28 costs less to maintain than the backup car which always sits in the driveway
19:21 Ponko everyone at points have those wtf was that moment
19:23 injektion Ford didn't do a good job building cars in 80s/90s
19:23 Ponko injektion if i stop talking all of a sudden i've fallen asleep
19:24 Ponko well ford are like the Lions
19:24 Ponko look promising then end up falling on there face
19:24 Experimentonomen corey is a weirdo on camera sometimes :P
19:25 SparkyProjects Fords were always known as 'Dagenham Dustbins' in the UK :D
19:25 SparkyProjects (dustbin = garbage can
19:25 Ponko lol my dad said that to me
19:26 injektion Lets see: In the 80s/90s Ford had: shitty power windows, engines that dropped valve seats, shitty ECU software (EEC-IV)
19:27 injektion Didn't bring any Coswroth models to the US
19:27 injektion Cosworth*
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19:30 SparkyProjects Another reference to fords was 'Fix Or Repair Daily'
19:30 Ponko whats the time when one ford passes another?
19:30 injektion The next century
19:30 Ponko tin past tin
19:31 masterofmonks Found On Road Dead.
19:31 masterofmonks Flip Over Read Directions.
19:31 SparkyProjects Fords have heated rear windows to keep your hands warm while pushing
19:32 masterofmonks But, any more the more modern Fords are actually quite nice.
19:33 Ponko the KA's where pretty nifty
19:33 injektion masterofmonks, Not if you get one with the DCT automatic
19:34 injektion Ford could use another RWD car other than the mustang too bad they won't import the AU built Falcon
19:34 Ponko but when they changed the design shape is when they fell downm
19:36 injektion http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia​/commons/0/0d/FPV_FG_GT_Boss_315.jpg
19:36 * injektion likes
19:37 yNos SparkyProjects: i just setup our (currently) local name server to do dynamic dns.
19:37 SparkyProjects OK :)
19:38 yNos if you start nslookup
19:38 yNos server 173.13.12.253
19:38 yNos ynos.lsl.thegeekgroup.org
19:39 yNos it should return:
19:39 yNos Name:   ynos.lsl.thegeekgroup.org
19:39 yNos Address: 216.109.197.70
19:39 SparkyProjects It's ok, i'm not much into that side of things, just that it seemed familiar to something else as i discussed with angy
19:39 yNos that was just a test..
19:40 yNos it was a lot easier than i thought it would be.
19:42 yNos angy: did you want dyndns?
19:44 GuardianZozo the geek group has its own dyndns server now?
19:45 yNos its not up for production yet..
19:45 yNos but yes.
19:45 GuardianZozo cool
19:46 yNos am trying to get moose to setup members.thegeekgroup.org and have it sub-zoned to the firewall at lsl
19:47 yNos havent gotten a reply yet.. i might run down there tonight and try to catch her.
19:48 yNos actually
19:48 GuardianZozo can you do me a favor if you talk to her then?
19:48 angy dyndns would be fun
19:49 angy just will have a very hard time to get it setup I think
19:49 angy mostly for the delegation
19:49 angy once it's delegated, it's easy
19:49 GuardianZozo let her know that there are replys on her minecraft posting
19:50 yNos the only thing we need to do is setup a sub-zone pointing to our in-house name server.
19:50 angy that is if the hoster of the dns allows it
19:51 yNos do they allow additiona ns records?
19:51 yNos most do..
19:51 SparkyProjects yNos, like a portal ?
19:51 angy most don't
19:51 yNos the 2 of them i have used do, so my view is maybe a bit skewed.
19:51 lwq1996 hi ynos
19:52 angy 99% of the one I know let you enter NS records, then discard them silently
19:52 yNos SparkyProjects: what do you mean a portal?
19:52 yNos hiya lee
19:53 SparkyProjects lsl.tg.org points to your server, then the server handles everything else
19:53 angy at least, we don't have any dnssec running
19:55 angy if we need to define a glue for the lsl.thegeekgroup.org server, which we need, we need to have 2 origins in the bind file. I bet most hosted won't let us do that
19:55 yNos who is 66-208-232-190.cdnt02a.wanarb​01.mi.hfc.comcastbusiness.net
19:56 yNos err.. who is hosting our vm?
19:56 angy chunkhost
19:59 angy with that kind of control over a zone, you can easily take down the whole NS cluster, so most hosts don't let that control
20:00 yNos there are issues with setting up a sub-zone?
20:00 angy looping binf
20:00 angy *bind
20:00 yNos ahhh
20:00 angy and I'm not really aware of any hoster using anything else
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20:02 yNos i'd be afraid of using them id they used ms..
20:03 angy I was more leaning toward powerdns or tinydns
20:03 angy or NSD
20:04 angy ok, time to moe a little away from the computer
20:04 * angy fondles Seroster
20:04 * Seroster inserts X into angy
20:04 * angy rubs against Seroster
20:04 angy see ya!
20:04 yNos later
20:05 yNos same here
20:05 yNos later all
20:08 dbshortwave later
20:21 Ponko hmmm
20:21 Toastdude Ponko!
20:23 Ponko alright toasty
20:31 angy Toastè
20:31 * angy hugs Toastdude
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20:31 * Toastdude hugs angy
20:31 Toastdude Hi tgg|ajprog
20:32 tgg|ajprog hi
20:32 angy hello tgg|ajprog
20:32 tgg|ajprog I just missed ynos
20:33 tgg|ajprog http://grandrapids.craigsli​st.org/mcy/2641700260.html
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20:34 angy .cookie egrsteve|away
20:34 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve|away, I baked you a banana walnut cookie!
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20:45 ajprog_laptop yNos: http://grandrapids.craigsli​st.org/mcy/2641700260.html
20:46 Toastdude yNos!
20:47 angy I have a so cool patrolling tiny webcam on the desk, I now have to find a way to share the feed
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20:50 ajprog_laptop angy: what is the ip?
20:50 angy 10.100.1.42
20:50 ajprog_laptop will the router know how to get me there?
20:51 ajprog_laptop nope
20:51 ajprog_laptop is there any wifi on that network?
20:51 angy I don't think so
20:51 angy it's on vlan1
20:51 angy I will have to change that
20:51 angy and I also have to find how to get it to patrol for more than a few minutes
20:52 ajprog_laptop t-vlan10 won't work?
20:52 angy it's on vlan10
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20:54 angy the fact that it stop its tiny patrol 2 minutes after starting it is annoying
20:56 angy I have a ghost is the webcam!
20:56 angy :
20:56 angy :)
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21:08 yNos i dont think i will end up going down there tonight
21:09 yNos i have been red-lighted for any departures
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21:09 dbshortwave ooo she got me goood ... i need to cut the razors of the cat lol
21:10 yNos angy, i can set a port forward on to it..
21:11 angy nah, needs login/password to access the feed
21:12 angy I'm going to dump it on a linux box then feed it to VLC
21:12 yNos BotSteve: tell ajprog_laptop those are cool bikes, i would love to get my hands on one like that.
21:12 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when ajprog_laptop is around.
21:17 lwq1996 oh guess who just tried to beat the living fuck out of me
21:18 lwq1996 fucking ass thinks hes a fucking man...
21:18 lwq1996 i ran and fucking made a scene
21:18 lwq1996 i told him he wasnt beating me anymore
21:19 lwq1996 pushing me the fuck around...pft...
21:20 tggmc Master control is being rewired, please excuse the outage
21:20 tggmc good bye cruel world
21:20 lwq1996 lol
21:21 Toastdude Hi Lee
21:21 lwq1996 hi toast
21:22 lwq1996 oh yeah i was talking about my dad
21:22 yNos angy: you around?
21:25 angy I am
21:26 lwq1996 I FUCKING HATE MY LIFE
21:26 KB3NZQ angy yNos  how is the ap config going?
21:26 angy that one is done
21:27 KB3NZQ o ok could one of you maby share the config with me of couese redacting the passwords
21:27 angy pm me your email, I'll send it to you
21:27 Toastdude Hi yNos
21:28 Ponko what's wrong lwq1996
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21:29 Toastdude Bats!!
21:29 Bat-Mobile hey toast!
21:29 angy batty!
21:29 Toastdude I'm sorry, I didn't get a chance to ask my teacher
21:29 lwq1996 i just want to fucking die
21:29 Bat-Mobile Toastdude: Don't be sorry - it's not like I mind
21:29 Toastdude Okay :)
21:29 Toastdude Thanks
21:30 Ponko why lee?
21:30 Ponko pm me
21:31 Ponko Bat-Mobile i've got an aviation magazine lol
21:31 Bat-Mobile really, which one ponko?
21:31 Ponko aviation news
21:31 Ponko The past present
21:32 lwq1996 my dad tried to beat me
21:32 Ponko and future of flight
21:32 Ponko yeah lee pm me mate
21:32 Ponko take it private
21:35 yNos back..
21:36 lwq1996 going to a football game...bye
21:36 yNos angy: sorry, about the alert before..
21:36 yNos have fun
21:36 yNos elbows up
21:36 yNos i need to get back to party prep
21:36 yNos later all
21:37 angy :)
21:37 angy I'm going to do naughty things to Seroster then
21:38 * angy does naughty things to Seroster
21:40 Ponko what's your opinion of the Eurofighter Typhoon Bat-Mobile
21:42 Bat-Mobile Ponko: pretty good competition for an F-16 or F-18 but the F-22 will easily take it
21:43 Ponko yeah the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptop
21:43 Ponko Raptor*
21:44 Bat-Mobile Not saying it's a bad fighter
21:44 Ponko what about the F-35 Lightning II
21:44 Bat-Mobile The Joint Strike Fighter?
21:45 Bat-Mobile Sounds like a terrible idea to me
21:45 Bat-Mobile Three roles, three different airframe configurations?
21:46 Ponko its more compact than the the F-22
21:47 Ponko lol
21:55 Ponko MiG-31
21:56 angy P'ky! Tea time!
21:56 Ponko absolutely
22:02 angy off to diner, back in a few!
22:02 Bat-Mobile Dinner or Diner?  Because diners are cool.
22:03 Bat-Mobile You can get greasy burgers there
22:04 Ponko Bat-Mobile MiG-31
22:04 KB3NZedQ joined #thegeekgroup
22:05 * Bat-Mobile doesn't know anything about MiGs
22:05 Bat-Mobile What is that, the SuperFlanker?
22:05 Bat-Mobile .w mig-31
22:05 BotSteve "The Mikoyan MiG-31 (Russian: Микоян МиГ-31; NATO reporting name: Foxhound) is a supersonic interceptor aircraft developed to replace the MiG-25 'Foxbat'." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mig-31
22:06 Bat-Mobile huh
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22:06 Ponko i've got a poster with ALL these fighter jets
22:07 Ponko of 2011
22:10 Ponko F/A-18
22:11 Bat-Mobile Fastastic plane
22:11 Bat-Mobile *fan
22:11 Ponko the poster is about A1
22:13 Bat-Mobile That's another thing I've never gotten my brain around
22:13 Bat-Mobile What is that, like a meter by half a meter?
22:14 Ponko take 8 peices of A4 and that's it
22:14 Ponko but yeah
22:15 Bat-Mobile ah, ok
22:17 Ponko ok the F-4 Phantom II
22:18 Ponko F-4F*
22:19 Bat-Mobile Wow, getting old school with that one
22:19 Bat-Mobile I personally don't know much about it, but I've heard it was good and mostly reliable
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22:28 Seroster ARgh
22:30 dbshortwave o.o
22:33 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a4WaPrp4y4
22:33 masterofmonks This is actually a fairly well done video for Photonicinduction.
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22:37 wannabe1987 .
22:37 Bat-Mobile hi kelly
22:37 wannabe1987 hi bats
22:37 Bat-Mobile wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
22:37 Bat-Mobile You're awesome
22:37 wannabe1987 o and Seroster, yes its mee.....
22:37 Bat-Mobile (:
22:37 wannabe1987 awwww thanks bats :D
22:38 wannabe1987 hows bc?
22:38 Bat-Mobile Rainy
22:38 wannabe1987 dry in lakeview.....
22:38 wannabe1987 .tfw 48850
22:38 BotSteve 43°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Lakeview, MI!  'It could be worse.'
22:39 wannabe1987 apparently there was white stuff this am.
22:39 wannabe1987 i was sleeping till 12:30
22:39 Bat-Mobile I missed it also
22:39 Bat-Mobile wow
22:39 Bat-Mobile Snow already
22:39 wannabe1987 mhm
22:40 Ponko Bat-Mobile this poster has alot of planes on it lol
22:41 SparkyProjects One day BotSteve will be flying planes instead of BatSteve  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-15451940
22:42 Bat-Mobile he's right
22:43 Bat-Mobile And that formation flying idea is an awesome one, the only trouble is keeping the pilots aware of where each other are
22:43 Bat-Mobile Autopilots could easily do that
22:43 Ponko they technically already are though
22:43 Bat-Mobile Autopiloted formation flight?
22:44 Ponko have computers fly the planes
22:44 Bat-Mobile ah
22:44 Bat-Mobile yeah
22:44 Bat-Mobile Computers do that
22:47 Ponko its a semi auto
22:48 Seroster I know, kelly
22:48 wannabe1987 lol
22:48 Seroster Ey SparkyProjects, bots are already flying planes. And that is fucking freaky.
22:49 SparkyProjects As long as the OS is reliable, neither the plane or the computer will crash
22:49 Seroster NO
22:50 Seroster I don't trust it.
22:51 Bat-Mobile As long as the OS is reliable, neither the plane nor the computer will crash, as long as everything else remains normal.
22:52 Seroster NO
22:52 Seroster I don't trust it.
22:52 Bat-Mobile As soon as something happens that the programmers didn't foresee ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki​/United_Airlines_Flight_232 ) then there will be problems
22:52 Seroster I don't trust it!
22:53 SparkyProjects The space shuttle uses 5 computers, they are configured like a committee, 4 computers can vote one out if it doesn't agree
22:54 Seroster Problem is when you got two with answer A, two with answer B and one checking its facebook page.
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22:56 Bat-Mobile Yes, but SpaceShuttleOS is the single most documented and debugged piece of software in the history of human existence.
22:56 Bat-Mobile Whereas what they're gonna put in production airliners is going to be more like lowest-bidderOS
22:57 Seroster I never trust computers that can potentially kill me.
22:57 Seroster Especially membrane boards...
22:58 Seroster My oven I can handle, but the membrane buttons on other stoves freak me out, you never know when they'll bite you in the ass.
23:08 masterofmonks Cherry switches all the way.
23:11 DruidicRifleman .minecraft
23:11 BotSteve The 'official' TGG minecraft server address is: gamerxreviews.net **** The server may or may not be down right now.  Try it and let us know.
23:12 SparkyProjects http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn​ews/8845223/Ryanair-flight-aborted-​after-taped-window-comes-loose.html
23:12 SparkyProjects One for Bat-Mobile to laugh at
23:12 Bat-Mobile (grin)
23:13 Bat-Mobile Duct tape is an approved aircraft repair part
23:13 Bat-Mobile For some airplanes, it's even an approved *structural* repair part
23:13 masterofmonks Duct tape is never an acceptable option...
23:14 Bat-Mobile Think about that yor a minute
23:14 Bat-Mobile *for
23:15 masterofmonks Thought about it, Duct tape is never an acceptable option.
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23:15 SparkyProjects Duct tape is supposed to stop air leaks :P
23:16 wannabe1987 tomorrow, the 29th, is my friends one year crash anniv :(
23:16 LinuxH4x0r :(
23:17 LinuxH4x0r what did your friend crash
23:17 wannabe1987 she's still not walking on her own....
23:17 wannabe1987 her car...it rolled 4x
23:17 LinuxH4x0r ouch
23:17 wannabe1987 yeah
23:17 wannabe1987 spine injury
23:17 wannabe1987 she's now in detroit (rommulus) doing MORE therapy
23:18 Bat-Mobile What caused the crash?
23:18 wannabe1987 some guy pulled out in front of her so she swerved
23:18 wannabe1987 she drove a saturn stick
23:19 Seroster Aaaaanyhow
23:19 Seroster Ill leave
23:19 wannabe1987 awww
23:19 wannabe1987 ok
23:19 wannabe1987 bye Seroster
23:20 Seroster You'll miss me? xD
23:20 wannabe1987 i'll miss you and angy molesting each other
23:20 * Seroster molests angy
23:20 Seroster Wait... it cant be molestation if he likes it, right?
23:20 Seroster Btw
23:20 wannabe1987 lol
23:20 Seroster No, nevermind, He's old enough
23:21 Bat-Mobile Nope, then it's just awkward
23:21 wannabe1987 lolololololol
23:22 Seroster Or awesome
23:22 Bat-Mobile Or awesome.  Could go either way.
23:24 Bat-Mobile Aight, time to sign off, duty calls
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23:24 wannabe1987 duty?
23:25 Seroster Yeah
23:25 Seroster He needs to poop
23:25 Seroster =)
23:26 wannabe1987 apparentlly
23:26 Seroster Or was that doodoo? I always confuse them.
23:26 wannabe1987 why n ot take us along.....
23:26 wannabe1987 :D
23:26 Seroster Aaaaanyhow
23:26 Seroster Cya
23:29 wannabe1987 awwww
23:29 wannabe1987 who else is alive?
23:29 wannabe1987 Toastdude?
23:30 wannabe1987 lee is at a fffooootbll game
23:35 ajprog_laptop1 sortof
23:35 dbshortwave HA! http://youtu.be/OkMeWH8SBMY
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23:41 wannabe1987 o.o
23:41 wannabe1987 dbshortwave, hows the cat?
23:41 dbshortwave shes still
23:41 dbshortwave quite relaxed
23:41 wannabe1987 thats good.
23:42 dbshortwave she got a bath and shes mad at me still lol
23:42 wannabe1987 LOL
23:43 wannabe1987 one of the detroit radio stations started playing xmas music today...wtf
23:43 LinuxH4x0r o.O
23:43 dbshortwave im getting " i will shit in your shoes" look
23:43 LinuxH4x0r already
23:43 LinuxH4x0r lol
23:43 wannabe1987 apparently LinuxH4x0r
23:43 wannabe1987 dbshortwave ewwwwww
23:43 wannabe1987 one of the dogs at the place we live poopedo n my bed....ewwwwww
23:43 wannabe1987 she doesn't like us there or something
23:44 dbshortwave oh fun
23:44 dbshortwave -.-
23:44 wannabe1987 ikr
23:45 dbshortwave but being that she is minus another 20 or so fleas
23:45 dbshortwave she realises that she can sleep
23:46 wannabe1987 lol
23:46 dbshortwave cause shes asleep
23:47 dbshortwave an shes not bounceing off the walls
23:48 wannabe1987 lol
23:49 dbshortwave this is sad
23:49 wannabe1987 ??
23:50 dbshortwave i want an apple dumpling with a large scoop of vanilla icecream
23:51 dbshortwave ill have to look into makeing them
23:51 wannabe1987 lol
23:51 wannabe1987 i get to do laundry :D
23:51 dbshortwave oh fun XD
23:51 wannabe1987 the place we are staying doesn't have a dryer o.O
23:51 wannabe1987 so we're at a friends house....so this place does, so i asked, and yep :D
23:54 dbshortwave why on earth wouldnt a place have a dryer ?
23:54 dbshortwave if they have a washer
23:54 wannabe1987 no room :P
23:54 wannabe1987 its a trailer/mobile home
23:58 dbshortwave ohhhh
23:58 dbshortwave stackable
23:58 wannabe1987 yeah...its an OLD one too :S
23:58 dbshortwave ;/
23:58 wannabe1987 with an attached room/garage we're staying in.  its fucking COLd
23:58 wannabe1987 old washer too
23:58 wannabe1987 they're low on $$
23:58 dbshortwave x.x
23:58 * dbshortwave nods
23:58 * dbshortwave knows that one all too well
23:59 dbshortwave i saved my dryer
23:59 wannabe1987 o?
23:59 dbshortwave landlord dont give 2 shits about it
23:59 dbshortwave so i fixed it
23:59 wannabe1987 they just hang stuff up around th ehouse....i'm like u....no?  thats my underwear !!!!!

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