Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-06

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00:03 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z983gjrRgEM <--- listening to this atm as well
00:04 lwq1996 .commands
00:04 Sgt_Lemming "/ignore [-rpcntiu#][on|off|nickname|address] [type] Ignores a nick or address or sets ignore on or off totally. -r to remove."
00:04 Sgt_Lemming http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/m-commands.html
00:04 lwq1996 .command
00:08 zombie1987 oooo so on the other computer i would do /r <nick>?
00:08 zombie1987 BotSteve tell wannabe1987 /r <nick> to unignore
00:09 zombie1987 BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 /r <nick> to unignore
00:09 BotSteve zombie1987: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
00:10 Sgt_Lemming err
00:10 Sgt_Lemming no
00:10 Sgt_Lemming /ignore -r <nick>
00:10 zombie1987 oooo
00:11 zombie1987 BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 /ignore -r <nick> to unignore
00:11 BotSteve zombie1987: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
00:12 lwq1996 i would hate to see photonic induction at my power plant
00:15 eadthem i would bet hes alot more  "normal"  at work
00:15 lwq1996 lol
00:15 lwq1996 ik
00:15 lwq1996 but still just the thought
00:15 eadthem normal as in trying to sheald a quarter crusher with a rolled up cloth towle
00:15 eadthem err not trying to
00:16 eadthem mmm now theres a thought    in photonic style     just take a fue 10 foot grounding rods    hook them to 1 side of the quarter coil  and the other side to a high voltage power line
00:20 zombie1987 ...
00:21 zombie1987 ok.  just checking if i was still connected
00:21 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/user/Phot​onicinduction#p/u/3/QX9kpe07NHg  he dose have a thing for smashing tv's
00:25 * zombie1987 lost the game
00:27 * zombie1987 figured out where in mirc to go to unignore people :D
00:27 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell wannabe1987 you are missed.
00:27 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
00:27 zombie1987 apparently i was ignoring aresbykes too :P
00:27 zombie1987 hi Toastdude
00:27 Toastdude Lol, Hi Kelly :)
00:27 zombie1987 :D
00:28 * eadthem aims his kernal pullit at zombie1987
00:28 Toastdude I left yo a tell :P
00:28 * zombie1987 hides behind BotSteve
00:28 zombie1987 i know, it notified me :P
00:28 zombie1987 someone said a nick of mine! :P
00:29 zombie1987 o toast you remember that contest i had youvote for?
00:29 zombie1987 we got 2nd place :D
00:29 Toastdude Ik, I saw! :D
00:30 zombie1987 i'm happy
00:31 Toastdude :)
00:31 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/user/Phot​onicinduction#p/u/2/EDFdF4b_K_o
00:31 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/1152773889​24201849210/MacroS#5634775931122440530 <--- I do so like this photo :-P
00:31 zombie1987 we beat another haitian organization.... but eh
00:32 zombie1987 o.O
00:33 astro73|alice_ mmmm.... one of my favorite observances of the year!
00:33 Sgt_Lemming you like zombie1987?
00:33 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
00:34 zombie1987 waiting to load
00:34 Sgt_Lemming kk
00:34 zombie1987 YOU LEFT ME!
00:34 zombie1987 hi astro :D
00:34 Toastdude I'm sorry!!
00:34 zombie1987 you didnt leave a note
00:35 astro73|alice_ hi
00:35 zombie1987 there is chihuahua in my lap
00:35 zombie1987 it licks me
00:35 zombie1987 ,,,
00:36 astro73|alice_ that's a good sign, yes?
00:36 zombie1987 yes....
00:36 zombie1987 licks or likes?
00:36 astro73|alice_ i believe both apply
00:36 zombie1987 lol
00:36 zombie1987 lem it won't load?
00:41 zombie1987 Sgt_Lemming whats the photo of?
00:41 Sgt_Lemming zombie1987, it's a macro photo of a cpu, but the camera focused on the reflection of it's own lens on the CPU die
00:42 Sgt_Lemming so you can see the writing on the lens reflected on the cpu die
00:42 astro73|alice_ sgt_lemming: nice
00:43 zombie1987 its working on loading....stupid sat internet
00:43 Sgt_Lemming oh lol
00:43 zombie1987 thats cool  :)  (i sees it now)
00:44 Cprossu hey everyone
00:44 Cprossu I must be sick or something
00:44 Cprossu http://oi42.tinypic.com/21zpex.jpg
00:44 Cprossu be back after catching up on the walking dead
00:44 zombie1987 ok ttul
00:47 zombie1987 BEATLES!
00:48 Toastdude lwq1996, You there?
00:58 * zombie1987 pokes lwq1996
00:58 zombie1987 hey you ok?
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01:02 zombie1987 wtf
01:03 Toastdude o.O
01:04 lwq1996 ?
01:04 zombie1987 yay!  hi :D
01:05 Toastdude I sent you a PM!
01:05 Toastdude Hi!
01:05 zombie1987 brb need allergy pills
01:06 * lwq1996 swips the pills and downs them all
01:07 Seroster Fuck it dude. Let's go bowling.
01:08 lwq1996 OK
01:08 lwq1996 I WILL BE ON THE NEXT PLANE
01:08 zombie1987 no lee
01:08 lwq1996 as the terrorist >:D
01:08 lwq1996 jk
01:09 zombie1987 ...
01:16 yNos :D
01:16 zombie1987 hi yNos
01:17 yNos just got back home from my 4 yo nephew's bday party
01:17 yNos how are things here?
01:17 zombie1987 slow and quiet
01:18 yNos we are dehydrating a bushel of apples right now..
01:18 yNos the house smells great.. like an apple pie.
01:18 zombie1987 mmmm
01:19 yNos apples are cheap right now.
01:19 Ponko gotta love Miami Vice
01:19 yNos you do?
01:19 Ponko i do indeed
01:19 Ponko watching season 5 right now
01:19 zombie1987 yeah they are, but we got a bunch of bad ones at meijer :(
01:20 Seroster Gnight folks
01:21 zombie1987 but cj got some from a friend so yay :D
01:21 zombie1987 night Seroster
01:21 * Seroster kills the zombie with an ounce of hot lead to the cerebral cortex
01:21 Toastdude Night Seroster
01:21 Toastdude Noo!!
01:21 Seroster Cya toastie and angy-away
01:21 * Toastdude shields zombie1987
01:21 zombie1987 ...
01:21 Seroster Dude, she's already zombie dogfood =P
01:22 Seroster AND YOU'RE NEXT!
01:22 * Seroster blows Toastdudes brains out
01:22 zombie1987 oooo zombiedude!
01:22 Seroster Now it would be great fun if zombie1987 was all like "Who mentioned brains? Braaaainz!"
01:23 * zombie1987 goes after Seroster's brains
01:23 Seroster Forgot one thing hun
01:23 Seroster I got none
01:23 zombie1987 your girl does
01:23 zombie1987 i hope
01:23 Seroster She's living with me
01:23 Seroster Would any woman with brains do that?
01:24 zombie1987 thats a no
01:24 zombie1987 lol
01:25 Seroster Aaanyhow
01:25 Seroster Goodnight
01:31 * zombie1987 doesn't like normal sized laptops....
01:32 zombie1987 but her netbook doesn't like wired interwebz.  i broke it
01:32 zombie1987 win :D
01:32 Zombiedude Darn, it's registered.... :(
01:32 zombie1987 zombie1987 and Zombiedude are siblings o.O
01:32 Zombiedude :D
01:32 Zombiedude Too late! :P
01:32 zombie1987 awwww
01:32 zombie1987 really?
01:33 * Toastdude is creating TNA!
01:33 yNos TNA?
01:33 Toastdude Whoops
01:34 zombie1987 tina?
01:34 * Toastdude is making THA!
01:34 zombie1987 still don't know what that is :P
01:34 zombie1987 :(
01:34 Toastdude :P
01:34 * zombie1987 is dumb
01:34 Toastdude Tri-helical Acid
01:34 zombie1987 that means nothing....
01:34 Toastdude I wonder why you don't know what it is..
01:34 Toastdude (I made it up :P)
01:34 zombie1987 never took chem
01:34 Toastdude Neither have I
01:35 zombie1987 but you know your elements.  i don't
01:35 Toastdude It's secret what exactly it is..
01:35 zombie1987 we learned basic ones in 8th grade.  that was forever ago
01:35 Toastdude Yeah, so?
01:36 zombie1987 i only remember gold = au, silver = ag, and magnesium or mercury = hg
01:36 zombie1987 and h2o
01:36 zombie1987 we learned to add them and make new shit and yeah
01:36 zombie1987 it disappeared
01:36 * zombie1987 feels bad now
01:36 * zombie1987 is dumb
01:37 Toastdude No! Don't!
01:37 yNos Toastdude: a helix is a shape..
01:38 zombie1987 like DNA!
01:38 Toastdude Yes!
01:38 zombie1987 :D
01:38 Toastdude Tri-helical means a triple helix
01:38 zombie1987 yes
01:38 zombie1987 but that can't be an acid, can it?
01:39 * zombie1987 used to know what dna stood for ...its coming to a blank...
01:39 Toastdude Deoxyribonucleic Acid
01:39 zombie1987 yes that
01:39 Toastdude DNA is helical, yet its an acid. :)
01:39 zombie1987 fuck
01:39 zombie1987 how
01:40 Toastdude It's an amino acid, not a corrosive acid
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01:40 Toastdude WB :P
01:41 zombie1987 thx
01:41 zombie1987 i unplugged myself
01:41 zombie1987 just a lil and it was like OMG WTF BBQ
01:42 zombie1987 i'm wireed in again
01:42 zombie1987 can't move
01:42 zombie1987 or do things
01:42 zombie1987 :(
01:42 Toastdude Lol :(
01:56 zombie1987 its almost bedtime
01:58 zombie1987 tonsofpcs
01:58 zombie1987 Toastdude*
01:58 zombie1987 or zombietoast
01:59 Toastdude You going then?
02:00 zombie1987 soon
02:00 Sgt_Lemming zombie1987, at least you are not actually plugged into machines
02:01 zombie1987 true....why?
02:01 Sgt_Lemming i.e. hoses running into or out of you
02:01 Sgt_Lemming I've had that before
02:01 Sgt_Lemming it sucks
02:01 zombie1987 yeah...IV and such would suck
02:01 zombie1987 i've seen a good friend like that last year after her accident :(
02:01 zombie1987 she couldn't talk, trachea tubes :(
02:01 Sgt_Lemming spending nearly a month in hospital with a drip in your arm
02:02 Sgt_Lemming naso-gastric tubes are bad as well, especially when they pull em out
02:02 zombie1987 she was there for 2 months or so....then went to rehab, and has been in rehab since then...
02:02 Sgt_Lemming as it drags stomach acid into your nasal passages
02:02 Sgt_Lemming ouch
02:02 Sgt_Lemming never had anything quite that bad thank god
02:02 zombie1987 yeah.  that would suck
02:02 zombie1987 >.<
02:02 Sgt_Lemming had some pretty bad ones
02:02 zombie1987 yes. please don't flip your car 4x (roll, really)
02:03 Sgt_Lemming no, but I've broken my leg so bad my big toe was touching my knee
02:03 zombie1987 new place she's in for therapy has therapy like 2-3x/week, she wants it daily, all day everyday so she can use her hands better and WALK
02:03 zombie1987 o.O
02:06 zombie1987 whoever someday gets to poke me for an IV will have fun :D  they have issues poking me to get blood!
02:06 zombie1987 like when i'll give blood...last time they couldn't get it....after digging around they said screw it, tried other arm, couldn't find vein and sent me home :P
02:07 zombie1987 clocks change today....thankfully my cell does it on its own :D
02:07 Toastdude :D
02:08 zombie1987 ok tiem to logg off and SLEEEEEEP
02:08 zombie1987 sleep off the allergies
02:08 zombie1987 (i blame taboo, tiki and terri :D)
02:08 zombie1987 (the dogs....)
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02:14 dr_jkl angy
02:16 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell angy his mom is looking for a French pen-pal person to help her with learning French... Would you be interested?
02:16 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when angy is around.
02:16 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
02:16 BotSteve Happy to help, Toastdude
02:17 dr_jkl i have a new name for betadyne
02:17 dr_jkl soy sauce
02:17 dr_jkl why you ask? if you spill it it kinda looks like spilt soy sauce.
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02:27 Toastdude Kate!
02:27 Katemonster hi toaster
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02:32 Hydroelectric Hello everyone.
02:32 Toastdude Hello
02:32 NeWtoz YOU!
02:33 Hydroelectric Would anyone know the color codes for the Assembly Language?
02:33 Hydroelectric Eg. 01h --> Black
02:34 Toastdude Hi NeWtoz
02:34 Toastdude And I don't... sorry
02:34 NeWtoz YOU BETTER BE!
02:35 Hydroelectric Ok...
02:36 Toastdude Does it make you want to take your pants off, NeWtoz?
02:36 NeWtoz I'm already 1 step ahead of you
02:36 Toastdude :P
02:38 sndwrx schwell.
02:39 NeWtoz your name makes me think of linux permissions
02:39 dr_jkl mmm
02:40 NeWtoz 700
02:41 Hydroelectric Yay, found it...
02:41 dr_jkl mmm
02:41 dr_jkl betadyne is fun
02:41 sndwrx NeWtoz: Hadn't thought of it, but I can see that.
02:42 Hydroelectric Betadyne hurts.
02:42 dr_jkl no it doesnt
02:45 Hydroelectric What are you using it for.
02:45 Hydroelectric ?
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03:14 Toastdude Hello Bob_
03:15 Bob_ Good eve
03:15 Hydroelectric Hello Bob_.
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03:26 Sgt_Lemming wow, fuck some people are childish
03:26 Sgt_Lemming one of the people on our minecraft server was having issues, went and helped them
03:27 Sgt_Lemming they had dug out arpund some diamond near where they had died, didn't take any of that, but a few seconds later spotted some they hadn't, took it out and was one block of diamond
03:28 Sgt_Lemming and they rage quit over it...
03:28 Sgt_Lemming afaik the guy is like 35 as well
03:30 egrsteve morning
03:30 Sgt_Lemming lo
03:31 Sgt_Lemming but yeah, how fscking retarded is that? (a) it's a game (b) I'd just helped him get like 12 other diamonds by killing mobs while he recovered his crap
03:31 Sgt_Lemming and he bitches about me taking 1 diamond...
03:34 egrsteve anything new in the world
03:34 Sgt_Lemming not really
03:34 Sgt_Lemming tis my b'day today though
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03:37 egrsteve well happy birthday then
03:38 Toastdude Hi egrsteve and Sgt_Lemming
03:38 Toastdude And happy birthday, Lemming :)
03:39 Sgt_Lemming thanks guys
04:04 Cprossu yay I am all caught up
04:04 Cprossu hey egrsteve
04:04 Cprossu still around?
04:04 egrsteve no
04:05 Cprossu kk just making sure
04:05 Cprossu http://oi42.tinypic.com/21zpex.jpg
04:05 egrsteve whats up
04:05 Cprossu ^ I rebuilt the thumper interlocks
04:05 Cprossu too
04:05 egrsteve nice
04:06 egrsteve you bored?
04:06 Cprossu indeed I was
04:06 Cprossu I did not add in the BRBOS though
04:06 Cprossu thinking about that
04:06 egrsteve thats the most important part
04:07 Cprossu the toggle switch is Charge/Fire enable
04:07 Cprossu and everything works as kidwell's wiring
04:07 egrsteve nice
04:07 Cprossu (rofl)
04:07 Cprossu the light on the top even flashes
04:08 egrsteve what did you make it in?
04:08 Cprossu garrys mod
04:08 Cprossu same thing I did the stomper replica in
04:08 egrsteve ah thats right, you mentioned it
04:08 Cprossu and I was watching the thumper video
04:08 Cprossu and realized that I had no 'interlocks' on my control panel
04:09 Cprossu did you see the video I made though?
04:09 Cprossu heh
04:09 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bwZyEe7dSU
04:14 Cprossu egrsteve: I could even use energy systems but........ it would end up looking more like a nuclear explosion
04:14 Cprossu and bits of the rig (and me) wouldn't survive the blast
04:22 Cprossu crap I must have sent egrsteve off the deep end with that last one o_o
04:34 Toastdude BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 he wants you to come back!
04:34 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
04:34 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
04:34 BotSteve You're welcome, Toastdude
04:39 egrsteve stomper doesnt have a control panel (that I am aware of) yet
04:39 Cprossu but it will
04:40 egrsteve it will
04:47 Sgt_Lemming it kinda has too :-P
04:48 Sgt_Lemming controlling that much power how they have been, is ever so slightly dodgy
04:51 egrsteve i know
04:51 Cprossu at least we graduated from jesus stick
04:51 egrsteve I was there when mark 1 self discheaged at about 40kV
04:51 Cprossu 40?!
04:51 Sgt_Lemming heh
04:51 Cprossu oh yeah
04:51 Cprossu you were charging it via
04:51 Cprossu the xformer
04:51 Cprossu big ones
04:51 Sgt_Lemming just a whee bit of a brown pants moment egrsteve?
04:51 egrsteve powered by geminis 200kva of pole pig
04:52 egrsteve yes a bit, corona then boom
04:52 Cprossu I was there when it self discharged @ only 1800 rofl
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04:52 egrsteve those cap have much higher capacity though
04:53 Cprossu true dat.
04:53 Sgt_Lemming 50kv isn't it?
04:53 egrsteve one of those is equal to 2 or 3 of the original
04:53 egrsteve they were rated 60
04:54 egrsteve we could only charge to about 30k rms rectified so 1.4* 30 kV
04:54 egrsteve no the new lower voltage caps have a higher capacitance
04:54 egrsteve but lower voltage
04:54 Sgt_Lemming kk
04:55 egrsteve I don't know where they stand joules wise
04:55 egrsteve the new setup is mor, I know that
04:55 Cprossu fuckton
04:55 Cprossu the question is whether or not it's a metric fuckton
04:55 tehdark45 metric fuckton ftw
04:56 egrsteve add a 4th cap and there will be no question abou it
04:56 Cprossu add a 4th cap and we'll be shrinking microwaves
04:56 egrsteve it registers what about .99 bodens when fired
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04:57 Cprossu what was odd was as it got later in the night
04:57 Cprossu it sounded louder each time
04:57 egrsteve cap get warmed up?
04:58 egrsteve i need sleep so ttyl
04:58 Cprossu I don't think we were firing it often enough
04:58 Cprossu ttyl
04:58 Cprossu but the resistors did get mighty hot
04:59 tehdark45 resistors tend to do that lol
05:02 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, air temperature drop much?
05:03 Sgt_Lemming higher air pressure as the temp drops will mean the sound is louder
05:03 tehdark45 .tfwc v4a9x3
05:03 BotSteve 2°C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Surrey, BC, !  'Freezing my balls off IN here'
05:03 Cprossu nope it was an unpleasant 63F in the lab that night
05:03 Sgt_Lemming heh
05:03 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc brisbane
05:03 BotSteve 23°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Brisbane, AS!  'It's that kind of day where you want zip off pants, until you realize how much of a jackass you look like in them.'
05:04 tehdark45 so you visit the lab often then Sgt_Lemming ?
05:04 tehdark45 :P
05:04 Sgt_Lemming lol
05:04 Sgt_Lemming no
05:05 Sgt_Lemming trying to see if I can organise someone to put me up for a few months so I can come volunteer my skills to the lab
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05:06 Katemonster :(
05:06 Sgt_Lemming .sandwich Katemonster
05:06 BotSteve Here you go, Katemonster, I made you a phily chesse stake on italian sandwich!
05:07 Katemonster mm, <3 philly
05:07 tehdark45 is there a list of what steve can do somewhere?
05:08 Katemonster botsteve, tell batsteve botsteve is spelling philly cheese steak as "phily chesse stake"
05:08 BotSteve Katemonster: I'll pass that on when batsteve is around.
05:10 Katemonster no kawaiijess yet.
05:10 Katemonster :(
05:10 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell BatSteve that in this message "<+BotSteve> 23°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Brisbane, AS!  'It's that kind of day where you want zip off pants, until you realize how much of a jackass you look like in them.'" it should be AU not AS, AS is American Samoa!
05:10 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
05:10 Sgt_Lemming eh, should have cut the bit off the end, too late now
05:11 exor674 Sgt_Lemming: I doubt one can do much about that
05:11 exor674 Sgt_Lemming: as BatSteve isn't in charge of thefuckingweather
05:11 exor674 .tfw 80228
05:11 BotSteve 39°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Denver, CO!  'Shrinkage's best friend.'
05:12 Sgt_Lemming exor674, it'll be a text string in one of the config files, not that hard to change
05:12 Cprossu .weather 85021
05:12 BotSteve Clear ☼, 55.4℉ (13℃), 29.98in (1012mb), Calm 0kt (↑) - KPHX 04:51Z
05:12 Sgt_Lemming oh
05:13 exor674 Sgt_Lemming: http://thefuckingweather.com/ :P
05:13 Sgt_Lemming mebe it is the page
05:13 Sgt_Lemming just noticed it in the top corner
05:13 Sgt_Lemming shush you
05:16 Katemonster heh
05:20 Sgt_Lemming ah, just tried to report a bug on the page
05:20 Sgt_Lemming "yes the country codes are wrong, that's how they are sent to me"
05:20 Sgt_Lemming ffs
05:21 Toastdude Heh, that's pretty amusing, exor674 :P
05:22 Sgt_Lemming heh, found a good one for my headphone amp design
05:22 Sgt_Lemming 3.5mm headphone socket... that is 5 x 6mm
05:23 * tehdark45 hides from Toastdude
05:24 Toastdude You afraid, little man? >:D
05:24 tehdark45 look whos talking about little :P
05:24 Katemonster .....asks the littlest man.
05:24 tehdark45 im not asian Katemonster
05:25 tehdark45 lol
05:25 Katemonster no, that was directed at toast
05:25 Katemonster silly
05:25 Toastdude Lol :P
05:25 tehdark45 oh lol
05:25 * Katemonster is fucking exhausted and kind of fed up with being around this much family
05:25 Sgt_Lemming agoraphobia kicking in hard kate?
05:25 tehdark45 is that why your here?
05:26 Sgt_Lemming http://bengoldacre.posterous.com/tw​o-great-pieces-of-vestibular-comedy <--- "Never have so few neurons given so much pleasure to so many"
05:26 Katemonster i'm here because i have nothing better to do.  i'm at my grandparents house, and there's way too many people here.  waiting for them to all go away so i can go asleep.
05:27 tehdark45 ah
05:27 Hydroelectric .weather Cairns
05:27 BotSteve Cloudy, 29℃, 1009mb, In the vicinity: Showers, Moderate breeze 11kt (↑) - YBCS, 05:00Z
05:27 Hydroelectric :-/
05:27 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc cairns
05:27 BotSteve 28°C?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Cairns, AS!  '...in bed!'
05:28 Cheezmo .tfcw v1x1v7
05:28 tehdark45 ahhh its they guy form up north
05:28 Cheezmo .tfwc v1x1v7
05:28 BotSteve 5°C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Kelowna, BC, !  'Why do I live here?'
05:28 Cheezmo -5°c actually
05:28 tehdark45 i was just thinking
05:28 exor674 .w 29
05:28 BotSteve "Year 29 (XXIX) was a common year starting on Saturday (link will display the full calendar) of the Julian calendar." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/29
05:29 tehdark45 5 in kelona but 1 in surrey
05:29 exor674 ... . is not /
05:29 tehdark45 lol
05:30 tehdark45 .w 1992
05:30 BotSteve "1992 (MCMXCII) was a leap year that started on a Wednesday." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992
05:30 tehdark45 best year ever
05:31 Cheezmo .w 2012
05:31 BotSteve "2012 (MMXII) will be a leap year that will start on a Sunday in the Gregorian calendar." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012
05:31 tehdark45 ... and the zombie apocolypse will araise
05:31 tehdark45 arise*
05:31 Cheezmo Mayan zombies
05:32 Cheezmo or it'll be when they agree to accept the vote for Sarah Palin as president
05:32 Cheezmo that's doomsday in my books
05:32 tehdark45 is she even runnung now?
05:32 Cheezmo hell if I know
05:33 tehdark45 gordon campell 2012
05:33 tehdark45 lawl
05:33 Cheezmo fuck him
05:33 tehdark45 yeah
05:33 tehdark45 him and his Highly Stupid Tax
05:33 Toastdude Michelle Bachman...
05:33 tehdark45 oh god
05:33 tehdark45 herman cain
05:34 Toastdude Lol
05:34 IsopropylAlcohol end of the world talk?
05:34 Toastdude Yep.
05:34 Cheezmo http://2012.presidential-candidates.org/
05:34 IsopropylAlcohol i already know how
05:34 Toastdude Starting with politics :P
05:34 Cheezmo If I was american, I'd vote of Jimmy McMillan, solely based on that facial hair
05:34 tehdark45 lets all go OCWS
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05:34 Cheezmo best hair ever
05:35 tehdark45 No I think Treudeau
05:35 tehdark45 he drove fast cars
05:35 tehdark45 lol
05:35 IsopropylAlcohol it involveds bioengineered viruses, people finding out about secret goverment, and terrorists releasing an engineered virus that makes the dead rise
05:35 IsopropylAlcohol thats 2012
05:35 tehdark45 2012 is when Bush is seen a a global hero
05:36 tehdark45 Bush and Cain have alot in common
05:36 tehdark45 They dont know what they are talking about
05:36 tehdark45 and have people telling them what to do
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05:37 Cheezmo then there's Sarah Palin... A last-ditch effort to get female votes imho
05:37 tehdark45 tgg should get out while it can lol
05:37 tehdark45 do a kzoo over the border
05:38 IsopropylAlcohol oh on top of my 2012 scenario. MAD, nukes everywhere to get rid of the zombies.
05:38 IsopropylAlcohol have fun witht that
05:38 Cheezmo and here I thoguht the red dead pixel on my monitor was bad... a green one just recently appeared
05:38 tehdark45 you in warrenty>
05:38 tehdark45 ?*
05:38 Cheezmo and unlike the red one, the green one stays full brightness :(
05:39 Cheezmo I bought this monitor dead a couple years ago and fixed it myself :P
05:39 tehdark45 ah
05:39 tehdark45 so its not so bad then
05:39 tehdark45 hopefully better than Chris and Paul did
05:39 tehdark45 lol
05:41 tehdark45 i hope the apocolypse is like killing floor or l4d
05:41 tehdark45 weapons just lying around
06:01 Toastdude .seen BatSteve
06:01 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw batsteve 24.21 hours ago at 2011-11-05 05:48:21 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:01:04 UTC
06:01 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
06:01 BotSteve You're welcome, Toastdude
06:18 druid__ that halloween video was cool
06:18 druid__ ?nick DruidicRifleman
06:20 Druidic_Rifleman any one else awak?
06:20 Cheezmo yeah
06:20 Cheezmo tehdark45 is too
06:20 tehdark45 yeah herro i r here
06:21 Cheezmo what are you up to, Druidic_Rifleman ?
06:21 Druidic_Rifleman wanting to drink but i don't wanna walk
06:21 Druidic_Rifleman booze is in another room
06:21 Cheezmo lol
06:22 * tehdark45 sends the booze
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06:40 Cheezmo http://8tracks.com/thenight​0wl/roadtrip-to-tranquility
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06:43 Electricguy morning
06:44 Hydroelectric Hello Electricguy.
06:45 Cprossu wow that's odd
06:45 Cheezmo sleepy time for me
06:45 Cprossu http://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/doc-collectio​ns/event-status/event/2011/20111102en.html
06:46 Cprossu ^ Monticello. report claims that #11 and #12 started, then says #11 was tagged out of service..
06:46 Cprossu how the fuck could it have started if it was tagged out of service?!
06:47 Hydroelectric Haha. That is odd....
06:54 Cprossu ahhhhhh ok
06:54 Cprossu found the initial event
06:54 Cprossu it meant to read #11 started, failed to work properly, shutdown, and was tagged out.
06:56 tehdark45 there is a conspiricy
06:56 tehdark45 to blow up the area
06:57 Cprossu actually I was just looking to see the event reports due to the OK earthquake
06:57 Cprossu have to wait until tommorow
06:57 Hydroelectric Earthquake?
06:58 tehdark45 lol Hydroelectric looking up nuclear power
06:58 tehdark45 our asian
06:58 tehdark45 lol wrong chat
06:58 Cprossu http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak​es/recenteqsww/Quakes/usb0006klz.php
06:59 Hydroelectric Oh.
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10:22 dr_jkl schiesse
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10:29 angy Hi dr_jkl :)
10:29 BotSteve angy: I have the following messages for you:
10:29 BotSteve At 02:16Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell angy his mom is looking for a French pen-pal person to help her with learning French... Would you be interested?
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10:32 dr_jkl i cannot sleep
10:32 angy that's not good
10:35 dr_jkl and it um
10:36 dr_jkl my back is covered in betadyne
11:33 Sgt_Lemming what'd you do dr_jkl?
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11:57 * dbshortwave sips coffee
12:01 * Experimentonomen has a headache
12:02 * Sgt_Lemming hands Experimentonomen some tramadol
12:03 * Hydroelectric1 wants some coffee.
12:03 * Experimentonomen is also exhausted after conquering something called painwater in a survival map in minecraft
12:06 Sgt_Lemming painwater...?
12:14 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om1Yhk​gr9ws&amp;feature=channel_video_title <-- it begins at 7:20
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13:46 Seroster angy!
13:46 Seroster Where's that french bastard?!
13:46 dbshortwave lol
13:46 Seroster ANGY!
13:47 Seroster WHERE ARE MY DAMN CALIPERS?!
13:47 Seroster I bet that jerk is away measuring slugs or something
13:47 dbshortwave rofl
13:47 dbshortwave could be measureing someones junk
13:48 Seroster I was thinking about going there but I didnt
13:48 dbshortwave i read your mind
13:48 dbshortwave XD
13:51 angy SEROSTER!
13:51 dbshortwave sid and bart....
13:51 dbshortwave lol
13:52 dbshortwave seroster and angy remind me of sid and bard from the bob and tom show
13:52 Seroster '-'
13:52 dbshortwave lol
13:52 dbshortwave ill send a link
13:53 * angy fondles all over Seroster
13:54 dbshortwave http://youtu.be/yPm5gNiDDUk
13:58 angy I like oracle memory usage
13:58 angy ``oh, you just opened a database, let's use 5G of memory!''
14:07 dbshortwave http://youtu.be/VzPbYFBXxbo
14:07 dbshortwave lol
14:11 Sgt_Lemming angy-lunch, I had minecraft server using 15.7GB of RAM last night, and it still crashed
14:14 dbshortwave the minecraft server requires that much ram ?
14:15 Sgt_Lemming when someone tried to detonate ~560K of TNT in a sphere.....
14:15 Sgt_Lemming yes
14:16 dbshortwave holy crap
14:16 Sgt_Lemming it died, I had to roll back the server to the last backup :-P
14:17 dbshortwave x.x
14:17 dbshortwave ouch
14:17 Sgt_Lemming sall good, it was the testing server
14:17 Sgt_Lemming I didn't really want to crash it though
14:17 dbshortwave if i can rebuild this other machine like the one i have
14:18 dbshortwave i may start a small server
14:19 dbshortwave it will have to be private
14:20 Sgt_Lemming I'm trying to get 16gb of ram for this machine
14:20 Sgt_Lemming but it only has two ram slots :-P
14:20 dbshortwave x.x
14:20 Sgt_Lemming considering the whole mobo is 17 x 17cm
14:21 dbshortwave the max the machine in the basement will take is 4 gig
14:21 dbshortwave oh and ill need another CPU and power board
14:21 Sgt_Lemming server sitting beside me is dual cpu with 16GB ram
14:22 Sgt_Lemming 2 x dual core opteron 280's with 4 x 2GB ram sticks hanging off each cpu
14:22 dbshortwave sweet
14:22 dbshortwave this is just a workstation
14:22 dbshortwave then again i dunno
14:23 Sgt_Lemming main machine, is a mini-itx based core i5-760 with 8GB ram and Geforce GTX570
14:23 dbshortwave maybe ill spring for a rack server for minecraft
14:23 Sgt_Lemming heh
14:23 Sgt_Lemming the server is a 1u server :-P
14:23 Sgt_Lemming IBM 326m
14:23 dbshortwave awesome ;]
14:24 dbshortwave brb
14:28 angy Sgt_Lemming: yeah, but mine craft does something, not just /wait/ for connexion to load something into memory
14:29 Sgt_Lemming yeah
14:30 Sgt_Lemming trying to calculate the interactions of 560'000 blocks of tnt is rather taxing memory wise :-P
14:31 angy in my case oracle eats up 5G just idling, doing nothing and caching no database at all
14:31 * Sgt_Lemming nods
14:34 angy when I start to really use the database, it tend to go up to 70-100G though
14:53 eadthem 5G  70-100G????
14:54 eadthem mariaDB ftw
14:54 angy not really
14:54 angy depend on what you store
14:54 eadthem true
14:55 eadthem of corse maria works for whatever you use to use mysql for
14:55 eadthem just with bugfixes
14:55 angy indeed
14:56 angy if you use 5.1, if you're 5.5, it may need some re-design
14:56 eadthem anyone else feel it easyer to just lay out classes in c++ than try and UML modal them?
14:57 eadthem think im on  maria 5.2.x
14:57 angy I stick with Oracle and MySQL for now
14:57 eadthem came from 5.0.35 server   5.0.49 mysqllib for client
14:57 angy I though mariadb was based on mysql5.1
14:58 eadthem mmm i got to look it up  i cant remeber it
14:58 angy I know it's not drop-in for 5.5, but I think it is for 5.1
14:59 eadthem mysql = maria 5.1
14:59 eadthem maria 5.2 and 5.3 = 5.5
14:59 eadthem exept maria5.3 has some new features
15:00 eadthem http://kb.askmonty.org/en/dynamic-columns
15:00 angy I should go look into the replication of mariadb then
15:01 eadthem all i know is at this point for my current project  i will need dynamic cols    or i will need a better suted database system   that dose not use SQL
15:01 angy most of the times, I use views for that matter
15:02 angy or... oracle
15:05 eadthem im just at the point where  ya i can use a SQL server for a MMO server   but its not optimal for most things
15:05 angy I use an oracle server as an iSCSI target
15:05 eadthem iSCS ?
15:05 angy iSCSI
15:05 eadthem iSCSI*
15:06 angy drives are stored inside oracle and provisioned using oracle
15:06 eadthem ya that sounds somewhat unusual
15:07 angy quite more a PoC that worked very well than something that is really usable
15:08 eadthem in general the best way for me is to pre associate varables with there database rows in objects,  thus allowing the matinance of type safety and other anti bug issues
15:09 tonsofpcs hmm
15:09 eadthem the act of query generation and data retreval for c/c++ can only be error proofed so much from sql
15:11 eadthem despite writting sqlgen  and all the other wrappers im at the point where i feel like sql will alwase be like throwing untyped basic code  in to a c++ app
15:11 angy it's quite the idea indeed
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15:13 angy I like doing weird things with databases engines
15:14 angy most to see how they react
15:14 eadthem i have a history of doing that myself
15:14 Seroster http://tinyurl.com/cyfm59x =D
15:14 * Seroster giggles
15:14 eadthem swgPrecuEmu  i wrote a binary bool system for storing the true false data of 200+ badges  and 2000+ skills
15:15 eadthem basicly condensed it down to about 20 unsigned ints
15:15 eadthem and accessed it nearly instantly with a look up table and some array magic
15:15 Seroster Voice to whoever can find me the donald duck, mickey mouse and goofy when they are working inside a gigant clocktower and donald gets stuck in the ginormous spring
15:16 eadthem not exactly standard sql
15:16 Seroster I got it. So..
15:16 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el7J3_CoDKI <3
15:16 eadthem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clock_Cleaners
15:18 * angy fondles Seroster
15:18 angy you can do so much weird things with Oracle
15:18 Seroster Fondle my noose you bastard
15:19 angy that's just so fun
15:19 eadthem ya ever sense oracle pulled the crap on open office ive been very very anti oracle
15:19 angy there were already like that before
15:20 Seroster I admire mickeys balls for standing on the second dial washing the clock face a few hundred feet up
15:20 eadthem they are a company akin to BP, microsoft, comcast
15:20 astro73|alice_ seroster: That sounded like it came out of a randomchatter
15:21 angy microsoft is way more open source friendly than oracle
15:21 masterofmonks astro73|alice_: It's the Serosterbot what do you expect?
15:21 eadthem angy how much do you know about database server internals
15:21 angy I design my own key/value databases engines
15:21 eadthem like how dose mysql add a col to each row after its been made
15:22 astro73|alice_ angy: It's because microsoft feels threatened, but is actually possibly benefitted by them?
15:22 astro73|alice_ oracle doesn't really have a peer
15:22 eadthem is it because theres a independant list of each cols entrys  or is it because it accualy gose thrue all the rows and expands them down
15:23 angy it don't expand rows
15:23 angy at least, it don't until you normalize the current tabl
15:23 angy I think it's optimize or something like that in mysql
15:23 eadthem so it uses some sort of revisioning system
15:24 angy not really revisioning, more like append to the end of the file
15:24 eadthem each row has a revision number  if you add or move rows that makes a new version and it wont update exisitng rows to the new version unless you change them or normalise?
15:24 eadthem this is going to be hard not to paint my self in to a corner
15:24 angy it don't really update anything if you do't ask it
15:25 angy depend a lot on the engine you use though
15:25 eadthem paticuarly if i want to do structure defintion like i did for my simple config system library
15:27 angy mysql uses btree to store the tables
15:28 angy if you add a col in a database, you unbalance the whole tree
15:28 angy you have to really be very careful on your indexes in you plan to add/remove cols
15:29 angy or remove already inserted rows
15:29 angy if you need lots of rows/cols manipulation, you may want to go toward adaptive hash indexes more than btree ones
15:30 eadthem well tbh  the only time they would need removed is if you requested it
15:31 eadthem the only time they would be added is with a version increment of the server
15:31 angy if you have heavy traffic in the database, you may want to blank then instead of remove
15:31 eadthem ie if someoen added another database controlled varable to say the player class
15:31 Seroster ANGY
15:31 angy adding is way less an issue than removing if the database grows
15:31 Seroster Wheres my fucking calipers?
15:31 angy let's see, did you check your bottom?
15:31 Seroster I only got those crappy dollar store calipers, and they are at least a millimeter off
15:31 eadthem well tbh  i can just make each object x ammount of bytes wider than it needs to be
15:32 eadthem Seroster electronic or mechanical
15:33 angy it should work even without that I think
15:33 eadthem well bytes wider means i could add to the structure of a given object without changeing everything
15:33 angy Seroster: you want my Mitotoyo one?
15:33 angy if you have a 2-folded system, yes
15:34 angy 2-folded being columns into columns, requires the type to be a blob/glob
15:34 eadthem then when it accualy needs to change it would simply write out a new file with the incremented structure revision
15:35 angy you shall design your own storage system =)
15:36 eadthem that was alwase the plan
15:36 angy for what I currently understand your design, you should go toward key/values
15:36 angy using index:glob
15:36 Seroster angy, is there generally a drill bit size between 8 and 10?
15:36 Seroster Like, is 9 common?
15:36 angy 9 is not very common
15:36 Seroster Because if it isnt Ill have to go for 8 and cuss for a while with a file
15:37 Seroster ... 8.5?
15:37 eadthem just rock the 8 around a while :p
15:37 angy 9 is more common than 8.5
15:37 Seroster eadthem, I like... ROUND holes.
15:37 eadthem i prefer square
15:37 angy 9 is way more common in wood than anything else though
15:38 eadthem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mortiser
15:38 Seroster eadthem, I have a round thing to put in the fucking hole xD
15:38 angy 9mm thickness? that's small!
15:38 Seroster ...
15:39 Seroster I was going to put a strain of my beard in it, so 9mm will make it fit snuggly
15:39 angy the fact that I have one 9mm drill bit here makes it quite common
15:39 eadthem i dont know   i dont have any metricated drill bits here
15:40 angy eadthem: I'm going to try finding the article I wrote on database implementation for you
15:40 Seroster Not your fault that you are ret... Err.. American. =)
15:40 eadthem i have a metric compass
15:40 eadthem :p
15:40 angy in a good k-v database system, your overhead for storing a pair will be something like 5 bytes in btree
15:41 angy and you may go up to a few exabytes before killing it
15:41 angy max registered object being the size of the database if you code it right
15:42 angy retrieving a value is rougly O(log n), and sequential retrival is O(1°
15:42 angy *O(1)
15:42 eadthem angy what im looking at would be potentaly 4 bytes overhead for the whole table data
15:42 astro73|alice_ why would you code your own database given the dozen of available DBMS?
15:42 eadthem witch would work for character data only
15:42 angy I don't see how that would work
15:43 angy or it is a non-indexed flat database
15:43 eadthem wouldnt need a index  and yes
15:43 eadthem size of entry * id = address to start of entry
15:43 angy you can generate that with 0 overhead
15:43 angy but it is super unefficient
15:43 eadthem 4 bytes   revision number
15:44 angy and it's not really a database per say
15:44 eadthem shuld be very efficant   as long as i only need to look up by id
15:44 angy no
15:44 angy you won't be able to cache anything
15:44 angy and you will need to seek the entire file to go to the last entry
15:45 angy and if your file goes beyond accessible memory, the performances will be doomed
15:45 angy it's super efficient for very tiny things
15:45 angy or in a filesystem that permit perfect alignment for your id
15:46 eadthem true   fragmentation would be a huge issue
15:46 angy and don't even think of changing a row or adding a column
15:46 eadthem but i still think for stuff like character data it would be fine    changeing values isnt a issue     adding rows only to the end
15:47 eadthem increasing the size of a row is a huge issue
15:47 angy I'd rather go with an inefficient k-v system
15:47 angy using a hash table
15:47 eadthem and i can still index the file address to each row in memory
15:48 eadthem the thing is tho  ile need something more dynamic for other tables
15:48 angy your problem is going to be the cursor seek
15:48 eadthem ie the item table
15:48 angy and if you start to have the file in non-continuous sectors, the block pool is going to be a huge issue
15:49 angy more if a value is stored across the gap
15:49 eadthem you saying that fseek is not Logarithmic time or better
15:49 angy I'ld say that a table in a single text file delimited by a special character may be faster on the long term
15:50 angy on what you want, you can't be faster than O(n*log n) for seeking (roughly, without doing the maths)
15:51 angy like that, I thing you complexity of retrieval is going to be O(s * log s + log n)
15:51 angy where s is the position of seeking and n the number of entries
15:51 angy which is very bad
15:52 eadthem o well that i have alredy    http://final.servegame.com/pub​lic/stormwarn2/src/scs/scs.txt http://final.servegame.com/pu​blic/stormwarn2/bin/VTEC.scs
15:53 angy that's very flat looking
15:53 eadthem isnt fseek n + overhead for same sector  and  n + overhead + (sectors to jump * sector_linked_list_overhead)
15:53 eadthem on most file ssytems
15:53 eadthem err sorry
15:54 eadthem isnt fseek k + overhead for same sector  and  k + overhead + (sectors to jump * sector_linked_list_overhead)
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15:55 eadthem and ya angy  SCS is not a database by any mesure
15:56 eadthem little more than a program doctyped  typesafe INI file with support for lists
15:56 SparkyProjects Seroster
15:56 angy I've never really used fseek outside of text files
15:57 eadthem i mean i would assume that would be the speed for fseek
15:57 eadthem i cant imagen why it would be   K * N
15:57 angy I'm not sure, it has some kind of weird internal buffering system
16:01 angy if your file was perfect, I think you got fseek complexity
16:02 angy but given how a file is stored, it may need quite a lot of i/o to retrieve where the data is actually located before being able to go seek it
16:04 angy a pure fseek on a perfect file should be O(n)
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16:21 KB3NZQ morrning yNos
16:22 KB3NZQ morrning cprossu
16:23 KB3NZQ_Biostar hi BotSteve
16:23 BotSteve Word up KB3NZQ_Biostar!
16:24 KB3NZQ masterofmonks why
16:24 masterofmonks His time had come.
16:25 KB3NZQ ok
16:25 Seroster Hello there SparkyProjects
16:25 Seroster Wanted something?
16:25 KB3NZQ how are you today
16:25 KB3NZQ ^ at masterofmonks
16:25 Seroster I'm fine and masterofmonks is grumpy
16:25 KB3NZQ ok
16:25 angy Seroster! you found your calipers ?
16:25 masterofmonks I'm not grumpy.
16:25 KB3NZQ i'm ok i have stuffy nose but doing ok
16:26 * masterofmonks pours boiling oil on Seroster
16:26 Seroster (Its the kindest thing he has done for any of us in years!)
16:26 * angy noms on rosted Seroster
16:26 * KB3NZQ slaps masterofmonks  be nice
16:26 dbshortwave deep fried angy, deep fried
16:26 angy it's better
16:26 angy you want a chunk?
16:26 Sgt_Lemming was just about to say that
16:27 KB3NZQ lol
16:27 dbshortwave nah
16:27 dbshortwave its too early for turkey
16:27 angy it's more like salmon
16:27 KB3NZQ i'm watching ncis LA  on my ipod through my VCR/dvd deck on my TV
16:28 SparkyProjects Just looking at your comments about drills
16:28 SparkyProjects You can get sets of drills, mine is 1mm to 10mm in .5mm steps.
16:28 SparkyProjects Failing that, get a reamer, failing that, get an old file, knock off the handle and use the tang for a reamer
16:28 SparkyProjects Another way is to use a large round file in a cordless drill in reverse as a power reamer
16:28 SparkyProjects Or get a 'conecut', it's a tapered drill and comes in various sizes
16:28 Sgt_Lemming http://www.questionablecontent.net/comics/2050.png <--- lol
16:28 Sgt_Lemming also known as a step drill SparkyProjects
16:28 Seroster SparkyProjects, If I had the money I would =)
16:28 SparkyProjects step drills and coecuts are different beasts
16:29 Seroster And my problem with odd drill sizes is "I need this drill NOW and the hardware store isnt open" =P
16:29 angy run a borrowed car into it?
16:29 Seroster I solved the problem with my dremel <3
16:29 SparkyProjects If you have an old file ^
16:29 KB3NZQ Seroster where do you live
16:30 Seroster If I had a round file it wouldnt be a problem =P
16:30 Seroster KB3NZQ, Sweden, you?
16:30 KB3NZQ Mars
16:30 angy you should have chose titan
16:30 KB3NZQ 20 miles north of Pittsburgh Pa USA
16:31 Seroster JESUS, that explains why it was so hard to attatch that ground lead
16:31 Seroster The sheet metal was reinforced with 5mm extra there, and the screw I used is actually a wood screw.
16:32 Seroster KB3NZQ, 17:31 thankyouforasking =)
16:32 angy not a wood screw, a ``multi-purporse'' screw
16:32 Seroster I love you angy
16:32 KB3NZQ got the reply all ready sorry if i pissed you off
16:32 SparkyProjects Seroster, take the handle off a file, you should find a tapered tang, works like a reamer
16:33 Seroster SparkyProjects, If I had a round file it wouldnt be a problem xD
16:33 KB3NZQ Sgt_Lemming THAT comic was funny
16:33 Seroster And if I had one I wouldt ruin it to get a reamer =P
16:33 eadthem angy  to load the entire character table for 1 millon users to memory takes only about 512 MB
16:34 SparkyProjects Dosn't natter if the file is round,  square, or triangular, the tang  is square with hard corners
16:35 Seroster O
16:35 Seroster Well, i have one flat file, and it is too wide to fit in my 12mm chuck
16:35 * angy fondles Seroster's all purpose screw
16:35 Seroster Btw, I am the only person in my class in school who knows what a chuck is. Isnt that depressing?
16:35 Seroster Angy, watch out before you become too aware of ALL the purposes.
16:36 angy Seroster: can you find one thing that is not depressing with your class?
16:36 Seroster Except for the fact that I wont ever have to see them again in three years? No.
16:36 angy eadthem: so you're safe and can do memory seek, that is the best (if you use hash tables)
16:36 SparkyProjects To use the file tang as a reamer, do it by hand
16:36 eadthem angy  safe with character data
16:36 eadthem and thats if it only hits 1 millon users
16:37 eadthem so ya idealy ile need some sort of a btree to check memory for the user and then say only preload active users
16:37 angy I'd say hash
16:37 angy way easier to program
16:37 angy =)
16:38 Seroster DAMN WEAK FLESH
16:38 angy you screwed yourself? =)
16:38 eadthem well each character has a ID alredy   tbh im very weak on tree's
16:39 Seroster angy, this time its a cut to the right thumb, I was trimming a small plastic piece...
16:39 angy hash table is quite easier to setup and to debug in case of crash
16:39 angy Seroster: get a soldering iron and cauterize
16:39 angy and it will even create a hard surface for future works
16:39 eadthem meh  soldering iron   use oxy acetling
16:40 eadthem it will go faster
16:40 Seroster Pr
16:40 Seroster Or... Put a band aid on it
16:40 angy that's a way to go as well
16:40 KB3NZQ http://www.cad-comic.com/cad/20070331
16:41 angy back in a while!
16:41 dbshortwave lol
16:42 eadthem angy  the table that scares me is items
16:42 eadthem 1 millon users  each with houses backpack  inventory   datapad .........
16:43 KB3NZQ Seroster electral tape makes a good band aid
16:44 Cheezmo_Away KB3NZQ: Silicone self-fusing tape is even better :)
16:44 Sgt_Lemming http://www.dealextreme.com/p/fandyfire-3900​-xm-l-t6-5-mode-1200lm-white-light-led-flas​hlight-w-charger-strap-set-3-x-18650-102548 <--- new torch for chris
16:44 Sgt_Lemming you know a torch is serious when it has a D handle on the side :-P
16:44 KB3NZQ never tired that
16:44 Cheezmo_Away it's a bit pricy, but common in aviation
16:45 Sgt_Lemming it's awesome stuff
16:45 KB3NZQ ok that would be why
16:45 Cheezmo_Away http://www.siliconetechnologies.com/​high-temperature-silicone-tape.html
16:46 KB3NZQ Sgt_Lemming $185 for a flash light is too much for me
16:46 Cheezmo_Away I paid about $4 for mine
16:46 Sgt_Lemming $50AUD including two batteries and charger for mine
16:46 Cheezmo_Away if needed, I'd just get a bunch of little ones and daisy-chain them together :P
16:46 KB3NZQ true
16:47 Sgt_Lemming Cheezmo_Away, would never equal the light output of that one
16:47 Cheezmo_Away likely not :P
16:47 Cheezmo but it would still look badass
16:48 * Cheezmo ponders getting an old aircraft landing light
16:48 Sgt_Lemming Cheezmo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkkU0UO3sek
16:48 Cheezmo omfg
16:50 eadthem for 1 millon users with the maximum ammount of items  thats 500GB of data
16:50 eadthem and thats without atributes   thats just   player id   item name   health  type   contained_in
16:51 Cheezmo eadthem, wat's this for? o:
16:51 eadthem im considering database methods for the mmo server
16:52 Sgt_Lemming I'd love to see the database setup for eve-online
16:52 Sgt_Lemming the world in that is HUGE
16:53 Sgt_Lemming and it's one contiguous world for all players
16:53 eadthem well remeber the world is proceedurely generateed
16:53 eadthem theres not much character data
16:53 eadthem all items of a paticular type are the same and have the same stats
16:54 Cheezmo I once ran a Ragnarok Online server (tiny one) and the database was plain text comma and tab seperated lines
16:54 eadthem ya that would never work for anything but a home server
16:54 Sgt_Lemming yes, but there are are thousands of items, thousands of stations and potentially thousands of trades at each station eadthem
16:55 eadthem ya but still   your talking     player id (8)  item type (4)  stack size(4) contained in (8)
16:56 eadthem 24 bytes   max of maby 32 bytes
16:56 eadthem per a row
16:57 Sgt_Lemming yes, but pretty much their entire world is based upon massive databases
16:57 eadthem as for trade history  its just   quantaty(4) date(4) type(4) price per unit(4)
16:57 Sgt_Lemming eh, I still reckon it would be impressive
16:57 eadthem i mean it could be a massive database  but  thats not much to store
16:57 eadthem billons of rows
16:57 eadthem but all of them reltively small
16:58 eadthem when you get a game like SWG    add 128 bytes just for the item name  witch can be custom  for every item
16:58 eadthem then another 32 bytes for the stats on most items
16:59 eadthem there are potentaly 3300 items per a player     and the rows are huge
16:59 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming, for stable mc server, disable or limit tnt to a max of like 50-100 blocks at a time ;)
16:59 Sgt_Lemming we normally have it completely switch off Experimentonomen
17:00 angy eadthem: check what you need for the database, and choose what to emphasize, then it's easy to choose a database handling system
17:00 astro73|alice_ i think for something like that, you start looking into PostgreSQL (enterprise) or MongoDB.
17:00 eadthem all im saying Sgt_Lemming is  eve can store about 6 items for every item a SWG server could
17:00 angy billion of rows is still quite small
17:01 astro73|alice_ or just try and roll your own massively scalable DB
17:01 tonsofpcs billlllllllllllllllions
17:01 eadthem angy  ya im still thinking still on it atm
17:01 tonsofpcs angy: short billion or long billion? ;)
17:01 angy design well
17:01 angy either is small
17:01 astro73|alice_ since when is "billion" small?
17:02 tonsofpcs but one is an order of 1000 larger.
17:02 tonsofpcs astro73|alice_: when you're dealing with bits or bytes
17:02 angy in database world, a billion row is a small number of row
17:02 eadthem its what DB servers are ment to do
17:02 tonsofpcs eh, depends on your database
17:02 eadthem they get in to there stride at around 1 millon rows
17:02 astro73|alice_ angy: what kind of databases are you dealing with? Most sites don't have billions of data items
17:03 tonsofpcs relational, non-, are we counting per-table or overall? etc.
17:05 angy billion rows is the cleaving spot for innodb
17:05 angy I don't deal with website databases, more site databases as in inventory system, provisioning systems
17:08 Sgt_Lemming night all
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17:17 dbshortwave nite Sgt_Lemming
17:18 NeWtoz love gaining an hour
17:19 tonsofpcs you did't gain anything.
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17:24 NeWtoz well, I know, but still!
17:27 injektion Note to MS: Please fully support EFI in future versions of Windows
17:28 Cprossu what in the world did I walk into?
17:28 angy how far in the future?
17:29 tonsofpcs EFI?
17:30 injektion EFI is the BIOS replacement
17:30 NeWtoz Elephant Finding Interface
17:31 injektion Extensible Firmware Interface
17:31 tonsofpcs Cprossu: a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity; a middle ground between light and shadow
17:31 angy Extremely Fertile Interface
17:32 tonsofpcs a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind
17:32 tonsofpcs Extremely finnicky interface?
17:32 injektion http://www.reddit.com/r/programmin​g/comments/m2b2b/dont_use_mongodb/
17:33 tonsofpcs injektion: is that a candygram for mongodb?
17:33 injektion no
17:35 Cprossu well EFI won't be strictly controlled by MS
17:36 Cprossu I've got a few boards with EFI now, so far so good
17:36 Cprossu if they really go for that secure boot shit though
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17:36 Cprossu it will make a lot of people unhappy
17:36 angy only EFI or EFI with plain old bios emulation thing?
17:37 injektion Cprossu, MS needs to support EFI a lot better than they did with 7
17:37 injektion Cprossu, How many people like the 1% lol
17:37 zombie1987 ...
17:37 Cprossu that 1% has a lot of impact
17:37 Cprossu see: windows vista.
17:38 zombie1987 .t
17:38 BotSteve Sun, 06 Nov 2011 17:38:06 GMT
17:38 zombie1987 .t tgg
17:38 BotSteve Sun, 06 Nov 2011 13:38:20 TGG
17:38 injektion Linux isn't a threat to Apple or MS in it's current state. It maybe on netbooks and tablets but not on desktops
17:38 NeWtoz wrong
17:38 NeWtoz it's 12:38 TGG
17:38 Cprossu injektion: linux just runs everything in the background
17:38 zombie1987 you sure?
17:38 Cprossu why does it 'have to be a threat' lol
17:38 angy injektion: for a very long time France Telecom ran Linux everywhere
17:39 NeWtoz I'm sure ;)
17:39 zombie1987 ok
17:39 Cprossu daylight savings time though
17:39 Cprossu when did it kick in?
17:39 zombie1987 ik.  thats why i'm confused
17:39 zombie1987 3am?
17:39 NeWtoz this morning
17:39 zombie1987 2am?
17:39 NeWtoz 2
17:39 injektion angy, But those are not home users
17:39 zombie1987 the bars weren't sure if they were gonna stay open the "extra hour"
17:40 Cprossu injektion: home users, pfft
17:40 angy injektion: nope, but a lot of computers :)
17:40 Cprossu most still run XP
17:40 angy Cprossu: not really
17:40 angy most run vista or 7
17:40 Cprossu ~40% doesn't count as most anymore??
17:40 Cprossu sure if you add up vista and 7 it might overshadow xp
17:41 injektion I mean in terms of market share Linux is still pretty small
17:41 angy 40% count enterprise in it
17:41 * NeWtoz still uses xp
17:41 angy airbus uses XP
17:41 Cprossu hell. if you're gonna count enterprise, there's a whole lot of stuff that doesn't make it on the internet that still runs 2000 and NT4
17:41 NeWtoz but that is a budget thing
17:41 * zombie1987 has one computer running 7, one compooper running xp
17:41 Cprossu angy: southwest airlines, and united airlines still use XP too
17:42 angy that is in the 40% of XP users
17:42 angy it's why XP is still on top
17:42 dr_jkl um
17:42 dr_jkl so linux isn't detecting my phone when i plug it in. it's a motorola droid 3. any ideas?
17:42 NeWtoz define detecting?
17:42 angy punch it
17:43 NeWtoz is it set to charge, act as a hard drive, etc
17:43 dr_jkl it doesn't ask me
17:43 Cprossu uninstall ubuntu, it doesn't count as linux
17:43 Cprossu (just a guess)
17:43 dr_jkl fuck off, Cprossu
17:43 NeWtoz heh
17:43 dr_jkl i use xubntu because debian doesn't have drivers for my laptop and i'm too lazy to compile them
17:44 injektion Cprossu, The point I was trying to make is that if even if hardware manufactures used secure boot it wouldn't bother 99% of all computer users
17:44 Cprossu injektion sure it will
17:44 angy and the 1% will buy another thing
17:44 angy it won't
17:44 Cprossu especially considering 99% of them will own it long enough for a virus to hit
17:44 Cprossu and won't have bothered to burn their recovery dvd's which didn't come with their computer
17:45 injektion Even people that are idiots and don't use virus protection it doesn't keep them from not using Windows
17:45 NeWtoz I have an older droid, but when I plug it in, 'USB connection' pops up, and if I tap that, I can select how I want to use it
17:45 injektion Most are scared to even use Linux
17:45 NeWtoz if that is your issue
17:45 Cprossu injektion ^ that's the issue, secure boot locks it down
17:45 Cprossu if they lock it down too far you need the "acer" oem copy of windows x v x to install back onto it
17:46 angy most of the motherboard are made by asus/dell/et
17:46 Cprossu wrong
17:46 angy and on custom design
17:46 Cprossu most of the motherboard are made by foxconn
17:46 injektion Most OEM motherboards are re-branded specifically for that OEM
17:46 angy yeah, on custom desings
17:46 angy do you really think they will care about your 1% on the design? no
17:46 Cprossu yeah. with dell it's based on good designs with shitty firmware
17:46 dr_jkl NeWtoz: i dont' even get that far.
17:46 dr_jkl hmm
17:47 * dr_jkl pokes around dmesg
17:47 injektion I had an IBM with dual Netburst Xeons and that motherboard was an IBM branded MSI board
17:47 NeWtoz so your phone does nothing when plugged in?
17:47 Cheezmo Lol, I repair LCD monitors and Dells are the worst...
17:47 Cprossu all I know is that EFI as ms wants it will annoy the end user more than it does pirates
17:47 dr_jkl yeah but it's not the phone 'coz it only happens here
17:47 Cheezmo Well, some Dell monitors are easy and some I can't, because it's all the cheapest crap they could cram in there at the time
17:47 NeWtoz kk
17:47 Cprossu just wait
17:48 NeWtoz wait 20;
17:48 injektion Even if secure boot happened overnight I'd love to see the impact it would have
17:48 SparkyProjects People hitting one of my sites
17:48 SparkyProjects W7 = 35.8%, Vista = 30.4%, XP = 23%, Mac OSX = 5.8%, Linux = 1.2%, win2003 = 0.4%
17:48 Cprossu I've got $5 on ms releasing a service pack which leads to a failure to boot because of a secure boot certificate issue
17:49 zombie1987 SparkyProjects i should look that up for my site...
17:50 tonsofpcs Cheezmo: where are you located?
17:50 injektion Cprossu, I am all for preventing idiots from tinkering with their own machines :P
17:50 Cheezmo BC, Canada
17:50 * Cprossu kicks injektion in the face =P
17:50 tonsofpcs bah, that's a bit far for LCD repair
17:50 SparkyProjects My site is not a tech site, it's just security info for general users, but for a tech site i would imagine a higher amount of mac or linux users
17:50 Cheezmo tonsofpcs, PM
17:50 injektion I am tired of having to fix other people's mistakes
17:50 tonsofpcs k
17:50 Cprossu I am fine with it. I get money for doing so.
17:51 angy for EFI matters, it's urgent to wait for now
17:51 Cprossu And I HATE IT when dell locks me out of a feature I need to use
17:51 injektion I do too but I want people to get a brain and start thinking for themselves
17:51 Cprossu I could give a shit. I can tell someone over the phone how to go through bios and fix what they broke
17:51 Cprossu and have done so many times
17:51 angy I'm not even sure that grub can load EFI if not compiled with EFI support
17:52 Cprossu well the EFI mobos I have boot everything just fine
17:52 Cprossu grub works fine
17:52 injektion I think Linux has better EFI support than Windows
17:52 angy if you don't have grub EFI, then you're not using EFI
17:52 injektion Well most EFI implementations still support MBR booting
17:52 angy if you use standard grub, you have a bios compatibility in your motherboard
17:53 Cprossu could be
17:53 Cprossu angy: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr​oduct.aspx?Item=N82E16813131697
17:53 angy most of the EFI motherboard are not really using EFI right now
17:53 injektion This Mac Pro has a BIOS emulation layer it's the only way I can boot Windows 7 64bit on here
17:53 angy it's even weirder in mac injektion
17:53 injektion I know
17:54 angy it's something like a stage 1.5 booting loader
17:54 injektion I cannot get into the EFI command prompt
17:54 angy I don't remember off-hand the key shortcut of it
17:54 angy but you can boot into it somehow
17:55 angy or use rEFIt
17:55 Cprossu you talking EFI or openfirmware?
17:55 injektion EFI
17:55 Cprossu on the macs I mean
17:55 injektion I am using an Intel mac obviously
17:55 Cprossu k
17:55 injektion I've used the open firmware prompt on PPC macs lots of times
17:56 Cprossu I thought when they made the intel macs they were thinking of porting it over
17:56 angy Cprossu: the motherboard you linked seems to have a hard time booting using grub-efi
17:56 Cprossu guess they went to EFI
17:56 Cprossu angy wouldn't surprise me, it works fine with regular vanilla grub
17:57 angy that is what they recommend, stick to grub-pc instead of grub-efi
17:57 injektion Windows 7's installer doesn't even allow me to even modify GUID disks
17:57 angy I thought you were able to use GPT rather well with windows 7
17:58 injektion Must be if you boot it with EFI then
17:58 angy indeed
17:58 injektion I hate this macs implementation of EFI
17:58 injektion I don't have 64bit EFI firmware despite having 64bit CPUs
17:58 angy apple EFI is very weird
17:59 injektion So to boot any version of x64 windows I have to custom make a DVD
17:59 angy yeah, they kind of locked the 64bits EFI for the laters Mac
17:59 angy that's weird, I bootcamp an x64 windows without problems
17:59 angy using the stock DVD
18:00 injektion You probably have a newer Mac then me
18:00 angy not really
18:00 angy Mid 2007
18:00 angy and I'm also stuck with 32 bits EFI ><
18:00 injektion I have to use these directions http://blog.andersonshatch.com/2009/11/08/se​lect-cd-rom-boot-type-prompt-during-vista-se​rver-2008-r2-windows-7-x64-boot-on-macbook/
18:00 angy I tried to force 64 one, but did not work
18:03 injektion There it is if you ever need it
18:04 angy that reminds me that I have to download the entire repository of MSDN before my subscription end
18:04 injektion Don't forget your keys may expire
18:04 angy they don't
18:04 angy not in my subscription
18:04 injektion I'm surprised
18:05 injektion I need to put Windows on here later
18:05 angy I killed my dvddrive on my mac, so I can't install windows aymore
18:06 injektion I don't like Windows but there is a reason why I am using it
18:06 angy I use it for CATIA
18:07 angy I should buy a new drive since I'm going to swap my hard drive soon
18:09 angy I can have a drive for 65€ either from UK or Germany
18:10 angy but I can't remember my ebay account name
18:11 angy ok, that was easy, it was stored in my keychain =)
18:12 angy now I need to decide, UK or Deutschland...
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18:13 angy Toasty!
18:13 * angy hugs Toastdude
18:14 Toastdude Angy!
18:14 * Toastdude hugs angy
18:15 zombie1987 Toastdude!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:15 Toastdude zombie1987!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:16 Toastdude Have you been wannabe yet?
18:16 zombie1987 :)
18:16 zombie1987 no.  thats the netbook....and monday
18:18 Toastdude Okay, then you won't get my tell...
18:19 dbshortwave glow bug circuits
18:19 dbshortwave detailed plans
18:20 injektion Hard drive prices D:
18:20 angy I bought mine just before the flood
18:20 injektion I did too but I need another 4TB of space
18:21 angy that's pricy now
18:21 injektion It was't before the flood D:
18:24 injektion I hope drive prices go down soon
18:24 angy I'd say in 3-6 months
18:24 angy minimum
18:24 injektion Fuck
18:27 Cheezmo good golly, this little box I wanna send TGG is 775 grams :x
18:32 Cprossu still under 2lbs
18:32 Cheezmo yeah, though it's Canada Post't I'm goin with
18:32 angy you can have the small surface packet rate
18:33 Cheezmo 500g is a price break, so it'll be $12.41+tax
18:33 angy for parcels, there is another break at 2kg
18:33 masterofmonks That is what UPS would charge...
18:33 Cheezmo orly
18:34 Cprossu this is why I like flat rate usps boxes and I am glad I am in the US.
18:34 Seroster Haaahaaa
18:34 Seroster Precious!
18:34 Cprossu 75lbs limit rofl.
18:34 Seroster Pretty!
18:34 Seroster All the wonderful colours!
18:34 Toastdude o.O
18:34 angy you cut your eye?
18:34 masterofmonks Yeah, UPS and FedEx are like $12 up to 50lbs or so.
18:34 Seroster And zipties... Lots of zipties!
18:34 Cprossu what the.
18:34 Seroster BWAHAHA
18:34 masterofmonks My god, it's full of Seroster.
18:34 Cprossu .c 75lbs to grams
18:34 BotSteve 34 019.4277 grams
18:34 Cprossu ^ that's a lot of fucking grams lol
18:35 Toastdude lol
18:35 Cheezmo ok, who here feels a desire to strangle people when they use the term "zap strap"?
18:35 Cheezmo I know I do
18:35 Cheezmo lol
18:35 Cprossu though the heaviest thing I've 'shipped' to tgg is a suitcase @ 49.8lbs
18:35 masterofmonks WTF is a "zap strap"?
18:35 masterofmonks An anti-static wristband?
18:35 Toastdude I'm sure if I knew what that meant I would... lol
18:35 Cheezmo that's what a lot of knuckle draggers call "zip ties"
18:36 Toastdude Then yes, I would.
18:36 Cheezmo maybe it's just a Canadian thing
18:36 Seroster Zap strap?
18:36 Seroster W.. What the fuck.
18:36 Cheezmo I either call em zip ties or ty wraps
18:36 angy it should be a music band
18:36 Cheezmo Ty Rap being a bnrand name
18:36 Seroster Ziptie or cable tie. Anything else results in fisting.
18:37 Cheezmo I love you guys so much
18:37 masterofmonks Because Seroster is all about the fisting.
18:37 angy it's a concept for language
18:38 Toastdude .seen BatSteve
18:38 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw batsteve 36.83 hours ago at 2011-11-05 05:48:21 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:38:17 UTC
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18:38 Toastdude .seen Bat-Mobile
18:38 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw bat-mobile 40.78 hours ago at 2011-11-05 01:51:38 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:38:29 UTC
18:38 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
18:38 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
18:38 Tridragonz hey people
18:38 Toastdude Hello Tridragonz
18:38 Tridragonz what is this?
18:38 Seroster Ahoy Tridragonz
18:38 Tridragonz chat?
18:38 Seroster This is the geek group IRC
18:38 Cheezmo geekchat :)
18:39 Tridragonz i know
18:39 Toastdude The place of epicness.
18:39 Tridragonz lol
18:39 Toastdude :)
18:39 Seroster A bit of evrything and a lot of jibberish
18:39 Tridragonz came here via nerf mods
18:39 Toastdude Ah
18:39 Tridragonz lol
18:39 Seroster I wish I had a nerf gun.
18:39 Toastdude But Welcome to the Geek Group!
18:39 angy build one
18:39 Cheezmo my buddy has a fair number of fancy nerf guns
18:39 Seroster I got a potato cannon already, so...
18:39 Tridragonz gonna get 1 4 cristmas
18:39 Cheezmo we have nerf wars owo
18:40 Toastdude egrsteve made one that can shoot Dots iirc.
18:40 dr_jkl grr
18:40 zombie1987 Tridragonz did you come here via zombies of zomb?
18:40 Tridragonz what other mods 2 nerf r there?
18:40 Seroster Tridragonz, if you are anywhere near grand rapids michigan you can join the Geek Group zomb wars, wich are fought with nerf guns
18:40 Toastdude What about Grand Rapids, dr?
18:40 Toastdude :P\
18:41 Seroster Tridragonz, A LOT of them.. Varying intensity. What are your goals while modding? more power?
18:41 Tridragonz what is zombie wars?
18:41 Cprossu Toastdude: it shoots nerf darts
18:41 Cprossu it's just... duck shoved a dot into it
18:41 Seroster Tridragonz, You got a bunch of people that you call zomibes, and a bunch of people that got nerf guns
18:41 zombie1987 i asked a question, Tridragonz, are you a member of zombies of zomb (aka zomb) in Grand Rapids MI
18:41 Toastdude I know, but didn't Chris put the Dots candy in it and shoot it?
18:41 zombie1987 its tag, really
18:41 Tridragonz im in england
18:41 Seroster If the zombies get you you become a zombie. If you shoot a zombie it dies for a minute or so
18:41 Tridragonz u lot american?
18:42 zombie1987 not all
18:42 Seroster Most of them are americans
18:42 Tridragonz i know
18:42 Cprossu yes he did (duck=chris)
18:42 Seroster 80% more or less.
18:42 Cheezmo most of em are yanks, but we have some Canadians and others too
18:42 Tridragonz like the people
18:42 Cprossu it wasn't designed to shoot dots though
18:42 Cheezmo I'm from Canadialand, myself
18:42 Toastdude Oh, didn't see the second post, Cprossu...
18:42 Seroster I know at least two brittish dudes from here, and a bunch of europeans (angy is a damn frenchman, so stay away from him)
18:42 Tridragonz lol canaialand XD
18:42 Tridragonz im vietnamese
18:43 Tridragonz dont like french people
18:43 Seroster Who does? =D
18:43 Tridragonz lol
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18:43 Cheezmo does Pokno?
18:43 Seroster Fries are good, but snails aren't for eating.
18:43 Tridragonz they are noobs the french
18:43 zombie1987 oh noes, a brit!
18:43 zombie1987 :P
18:43 Cprossu hrmmm
18:43 Ponko do i what
18:43 Seroster Ey, Ponko, we got another englishman here
18:43 Cprossu does someone want to donate a cable labeler to tgg?
18:43 Cheezmo Seroster, the fries are Belgian, not French
18:44 Seroster Do you like frenchmen, Ponko?
18:44 Tridragonz alie it me!!!
18:44 Seroster Cheezmo, CRAP!
18:44 Ponko umm i'm british seroster
18:44 Toastdude I like the French... Don't be mean, Tridragonz :P
18:44 Ponko what do you think
18:44 zombie1987 o Ponko, a friend went "LOOSE PACKERS, LOSE" on facebook today
18:44 Seroster Yes... So you hate french? =D
18:44 Tridragonz thats ur prob toast
18:44 Ponko lol ok then
18:44 Seroster zombie1987, I could go for a ... packer joke, but I wont
18:44 Ponko yes seroster
18:44 Tridragonz i also hate jews
18:44 Seroster angy, we love you, even thou you are french.
18:44 Tridragonz them mofos from satan
18:45 Seroster That, myfriend, might have ben a step too far =P
18:45 Ponko yeah
18:45 Tridragonz they are spies of satan
18:45 * zombie1987 blocks the new guy
18:45 Seroster Generally - stay away from topics about God Guns and Gouverment.
18:45 Cheezmo I'm not gonna say Jews are evil, but I worked for one, and they really are cheap :x
18:45 Toastdude Btw, I used to be Jewish. o.o
18:45 Tridragonz hitler saw there evil plans
18:45 * angy fondles Seroster
18:45 * Ponko sees plane crashes and burn
18:45 Seroster Cheezmo, I have never had an employer that wasnt cheap
18:45 * zombie1987 sheilds Toastdude
18:45 Ponko ok masterofmonks
18:45 masterofmonks Toastdude: used to be?
18:45 Seroster Tridragonz, You really should stop that.
18:45 Tridragonz jews keep money in thier hats XD
18:46 Toastdude Yes, I used to be when I was younger.
18:46 Cheezmo Seroster, my last job, I was on a $40k salary doing the least I've done at most other jobs
18:46 Seroster Was Abraham lincoln a jew? =D
18:46 Cheezmo I was amazed att he pay o.o
18:46 * Toastdude kicks Tridragonz
18:46 Ponko Tottenham Hotspur are a jewish ran club
18:46 Tridragonz hey toast!
18:46 Ponko but i like OTHER jews those jews are yidos
18:46 Ponko literally
18:46 Toastdude NO! You don't have the right to call me Toast! :P
18:47 Seroster Damn this is odd.
18:47 Cprossu masterofmonks why does our channel always attract these things?
18:47 Seroster Hey Tridragonz, what do you call zipties?
18:47 Cheezmo oh boy
18:47 * zombie1987 thinks Tridragonz is a troll
18:47 masterofmonks Tridragonz: You sir are about one more inflamitory comment from a muting.
18:47 Ponko http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mortal-Kombat-2​-Arcade-Game-VERY-NICE-/250847928086?pt=L​H_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3a67b39f16 anyone got 2K
18:47 * Cprossu hopes so
18:47 Tridragonz there is a place in london called stanford hill infested by jews!!
18:47 masterofmonks Cprossu: I haven't figured it out yet.
18:47 Ponko Golders Green
18:47 Toastdude Tridragonz, you can be quiet now.
18:47 zombie1987 masterofmonks muted him :D
18:47 Seroster He has no choise but to be =P
18:48 Toastdude Oh look, too late
18:48 angy you want to train on mortal konbat P'ky? =)
18:48 Ponko ohhh yes
18:48 zombie1987 thank you masterofmonks :D
18:48 Cheezmo Yeah, that's enough racial slurs for an afternoon :U
18:48 Seroster Back in the good ol days there was a guy who posted a ginormous ASCII swastika. Good times. xD
18:48 Toastdude Yes, thanks MoM :D
18:48 Ponko well i like jews but jews and any other religions that support tottenham hotspur i don't lol
18:49 Tridragonz left #thegeekgroup
18:49 Ponko and that's just me being a true arsenal fan
18:49 zombie1987 and....he left
18:49 Toastdude Yay! :P
18:49 Cheezmo :D
18:49 Cprossu As far as I am concerned you can be any religion as long as you don't come to where I am and start pissing in my cheerios. =P
18:49 Ponko he went TOO far
18:49 Ponko lol Cprossu
18:49 Seroster Cprossu, I got no religion, can I still piss in your cheerios?
18:49 Cprossu as soon as your religion/belief pisses in my cheerios you've losy your argument.
18:49 Ponko hahahahaha
18:49 masterofmonks And now to forget him.
18:50 Cprossu Seroster: no belief by it's own definition is a belief
18:50 Ponko forget who
18:50 Ponko ;)
18:50 angy so all of us without religion can piss in your cheerios then
18:50 Cheezmo I like slicing up bananas in my rice krispies
18:50 angy fun!
18:50 masterofmonks Ponko: Exactly.
18:50 Cprossu ^ angy read
18:50 Seroster Cprossu, Then not collecting stamps is a hobby
18:50 Ponko :D i'm on the ball Masterofmonks
18:50 Ponko i'll get off it before it pops
18:50 Cprossu Seroster: yeah.
18:50 Cprossu especially if you are abraisive about it
18:50 Seroster Lack of hair isnt a hairstyle. Lack of faith isnt a religion,
18:50 NeWtoz thats what she said
18:51 Ponko i'm Agnostic
18:51 Cprossu Seroster: rofl.
18:51 dbshortwave i have to side with Cprossu
18:51 * angy likes the capitalized A
18:51 Seroster Ah, here we call agnostics "Cantmakeuptheirminders" =D
18:51 Ponko they get it Angy
18:51 * masterofmonks coughs.
18:51 dbshortwave do as must ... just dont come tome and start stuffing it down my throat
18:51 Cprossu I am an atheist if anyone really wants to know, but I do not want to ruin whatever makes anyone else happy
18:51 Ponko change your nick then change it back
18:51 Seroster Ah. Yes.
18:51 angy Seroster: and in swedish?
18:52 Ponko Cprossu you're entitled to that
18:52 Seroster I think masterofmonks wants us to lay off the religion topic.
18:52 Cprossu if they want to believe that cows on the moon made it into cheese then so be it if that's what gets em through the day
18:52 Seroster Let's go talk about it in #TGG_NSFW instead! YAAAY!
18:52 masterofmonks Or relocate it.
18:52 Ponko Cprossu think that's where wallace got the idea?
18:52 Seroster Way ahead of ya mom =)
18:52 Cprossu and it's not up to me to decide what gets them through the day.
18:53 Cprossu but as soon as they take time out of their lives to tell me that I am going to hell/need to be saved/need to bless the cows of the moon and won't give it up
18:53 Seroster Cprossu...
18:53 Cprossu thats where I draw the line.
18:53 Seroster That discussion has officially siezed in this room, feel free to keep on going in #TGG_NSFW
18:53 Ponko TGG_NSFW
18:54 Cprossu ^ that's where the shrunken quarter I have came in handy once so far I may add ^
18:55 masterofmonks So Cprossu are you still at the lab ( I haven't been keeping track of your movements)
18:55 Cprossu nope
18:55 Cprossu in AZ
18:55 Ponko Cprossu is Roger Hoy
18:55 Cprossu my grandmother just died today though
18:55 Cprossu =(
18:55 Ponko ah damn
18:55 masterofmonks dude, that sucks.
18:55 zombie1987 awwww
18:55 Cprossu it could be worse.
18:55 Ponko mate that's terrible
18:55 zombie1987 and kate's grandpa is on his way out too :(
18:55 Cprossu her liver failed and she was in miserable pain.
18:55 Ponko well how old was she
18:56 Cprossu she died peacefully in her sleep at her home. 79.
18:56 Seroster I think I might send two 1SEK two 5SEK and two 10SEK to the lab,   Would be a great display piece on the wall in the cafe, coins from around the world pre shrinkage and post shrinkage.
18:56 Cprossu the trip to grr I piggybacked off of the last trip to indy
18:56 Cprossu to see my dying grandmother.
18:56 Ponko well she had a good innings and well at least she wasn't caught at the slips
18:57 * Ponko some reason decided to include cricket
18:57 Cprossu she is the reason we moved far away from indy to phx, but that's another story for another time
18:57 masterofmonks Seroster: Actually that is a good idea.
18:57 angy they already have some €
18:57 Ponko well just take it one at a time
18:58 zombie1987 hmmmmi think i have some duplicate coins to be shrunk from other countries....i should check
18:58 Cprossu at least she wasn't completely full of hatred (like usual) towards the end.
18:58 Ponko as with kate i'd like to help you Cprossu but i don't want to upset you
18:58 Cprossu no worries.
18:58 Ponko not that i'll try to but you know
18:59 Cprossu it's hard to remember the good things about a person when they've been so horrible in the past.
18:59 zombie1987 yeah
18:59 * zombie1987 hugs Cprossu
18:59 Cprossu anywayyyyyy
19:00 Cprossu funeral is this Wed. which means I leave tommorow
19:00 Seroster masterofmonks, every now and then I get a good idea.
19:00 zombie1987 there.  zombie hugs :D
19:00 Cprossu no GRR trip after this one sadly.
19:00 zombie1987 i think thats ok
19:00 Cprossu plus I am totally out of money.
19:00 masterofmonks Seroster: Credit given...
19:01 Seroster They are rare.
19:01 Ponko hmmm idk why but i'm REALLY tempted to buy an arcade machine
19:02 masterofmonks oh, Seroster I got my welder and miter saw yesterday.
19:02 masterofmonks Ponko: Build one.
19:02 Seroster Miters scare me
19:02 Ponko http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mortal-Kombat-2​-Arcade-Game-VERY-NICE-/250847928086?pt=L​H_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3a67b39f16 could buy that
19:02 masterofmonks Seroster: why?
19:02 Cprossu egrsteve|away : http://www.wiremarkerprinters.com​/productsK-Sun-Labelshop-BEE3.htm <- are these any good?
19:02 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve http://www.wiremarkerprinters.com​/productsK-Sun-Labelshop-BEE3.htm <- are these any good?
19:02 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
19:03 Ponko hmm maybe that can be a tgg project?
19:03 Ponko build a Mortal Kombat machine from scratch
19:03 injektion I have a Brother P Touch labeler that I love
19:03 Cheezmo My one job, a large portion of it was heat-stamping labels into wires... hooray for aviation
19:03 Cprossu we need something that makes nice wire labels injektion
19:04 Ponko hooray indeed
19:04 Cprossu is it the media that's different?
19:04 injektion Mine can do that
19:04 Cprossu I've never really looked into it
19:04 Cheezmo what kind of wire labels are we looking for? stamp, heatshrink, or tags?
19:04 Cprossu but I know tgg does not have one
19:04 zombie1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot​os-ak-snc7/379932_257796447606701_24​4753448911001_753313_208335591_n.jpg
19:04 BotSteve zombie1987: I'll pass that on when toastdude is around.
19:05 zombie1987 angy: http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot​os-ak-snc7/379932_257796447606701_24​4753448911001_753313_208335591_n.jpg
19:05 Cprossu just something that we can put over ready made coax
19:05 angy :)
19:05 Cprossu that will stay there, not fall off, and not smudge
19:05 Cheezmo so likely heatshrink, but that's expensive
19:06 Cprossu so do they make heatshrink labels that you can apply like tape?
19:06 Cheezmo I think your best bet is to get Avery small return-address labels and put a layer of packing tape over them
19:06 Cprossu Cheezmo: with over 300 cables making up master control
19:06 Cprossu each with 2 ends
19:06 Cheezmo they make printable heatshrink with a label printer
19:06 Cprossu that would suck ass
19:06 Cheezmo but it can get pricy
19:06 Cprossu we need something that we can use while tangled in a mass of cables
19:07 Cheezmo yeah, likely that then
19:07 Cprossu we often don't know what we are connecting where until we do it, test it, and make it work despite not working
19:08 Cheezmo http://global.dymo.com/enC​A/Products/Rhino_6000.html
19:08 Cheezmo http://global.dymo.com/enCA/Label​sOverview/Heat_Shrink_Tubes.html
19:09 SparkyProjects There's some labels that have a writeable (maybe printable) surface that you wrap around the cable, ithey have a clear sction that also wraps over to protect the writing
19:09 SparkyProjects A bit like a cross between adhesive labels and selotape
19:09 Cprossu but we can't fit that over a BNC connector Cheezmo
19:09 Cheezmo they have larger sizes
19:09 Cprossu but coax is small compared to the bnc
19:09 Cheezmo you can get prints up to like 3/4"
19:09 Cprossu I doubt it will shrink enough
19:09 Cheezmo hence the shrink, though
19:09 Cheezmo hm
19:10 Cheezmo one sec, let me try and find this one thing
19:11 Cheezmo http://www.tnb.com/ps/endeca/index.cg​i?a=nav&amp;N=571+4294951681&amp;Ntt=
19:11 Cheezmo number tape dispenser
19:11 Cheezmo I've used this stuff before
19:11 Cheezmo different model, but same principle
19:11 Cprossu I've used stuff like that too
19:12 SparkyProjects http://www.beechman.co.uk/kr​oy_wire_wraps_for_cables.htm
19:12 Cheezmo likely the most cost-effective device to use
19:13 SparkyProjects or cable flags http://www.beechman.co.uk/cable_marking.htm
19:13 Cheezmo I think flags might get a bit cumbersome
19:13 Cprossu the first one listed looks like what we need
19:14 Cprossu their printers look like 3M style thermal printers
19:15 SparkyProjects We used the first type for marking cables we tested (part of our safety regime in the UK) they are quite durable
19:15 injektion The only issue I have is that when I use windows on the mac pro is that when the wifi is on the audio skips :|
19:15 Ponko man watching the ball busting move of Johnny Cage in Mortal Kombat i can't help but wince
19:15 masterofmonks injektion: like when you are listening to a mp3?
19:15 injektion Yes
19:15 masterofmonks That is an odd bug.
19:17 injektion Yeah it sure is
19:18 Cprossu Ponko: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MORTAL-KOMBAT-2-JAMMA-​arcade-game-pcb-board-part-c17-/160674221695?p​t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2568ee0e7f
19:18 Cprossu ^ A TRUE geek group mortal kombat 2 project looks like this.
19:18 * angy wants Kinect Mortal Kombat
19:18 Ponko lol ;) indeed
19:19 Ponko ball busting in all
19:20 Ponko oh c'mon you can't tell me you never winced at that move
19:20 * zombie1987 wishes she had a warm room with internet in it to hang out in....
19:21 Cprossu besides Ponko, moose can fabricate a arcade cabinet in a day
19:21 Ponko true
19:21 Cprossu and instead of joysticks and arcade buttons we can just dive into the allen bradley stuff
19:21 Ponko lol
19:22 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALLEN-BRADLEY-JOYSTIC​K-TYPE-TOGGLE-SWITCH-800T-T2S-/380380579056?p​t=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item58907304f0
19:22 Cprossu it wouldn't just use any joystick or buttons
19:22 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/LOT-6-ALLEN-BRADL​EY-800T-QT24-ILLUMINATED-PUSHBUTTON-SWITC​H-24V-RED-BUTTON-25827-/290626983217?pt=L​H_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item43aab7d531
19:22 Cprossu lol
19:24 Ponko wouldn't that hurt with all the constant bashing of the buttons
19:24 Cprossu you'd have to be a MAN to play our mortal kombat machine
19:24 Cprossu lol
19:25 Cprossu and we'd take apart one of the big ass 30" TV's we have for it's CRT
19:26 Cprossu it's be like a beefy sized mortal kombat 2 machine with big ass buttons that you actually have to press
19:26 Cprossu we could use the mushroom button REES's you can buy up the street though
19:27 angy whole body mortal combat machine
19:27 Ponko well Cprossu you wouldn't be if you saw Johnny Cage do his ball bust move
19:28 Ponko you'd just wince
19:28 Cprossu lol glad I just do wiring
19:28 Cprossu I don't play the games!
19:28 Cprossu heavens no
19:28 Ponko lol only because of the ball bust :P
19:28 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-REES-INC-RED-MUS​HROOM-PALM-BUTTON-00662-002-/320624518873?pt​=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4aa6b5e6d9
19:28 Cprossu ^ I picked up one of these on my first trip to grr just to have laying around
19:29 injektion I hope this works
19:29 injektion I made a W7 ISO in an XP VM
19:30 angy I don't see why it won't work
19:31 Ponko lol Skype thinks the Part number is a Phone Number lol
19:32 Ponko phone number in thailand
19:33 injektion angy, I tried using the Windows 7 USB tool in an XP VM and it failed
19:33 angy that's... inconvenient
19:33 injektion I had the Windows 8 developer preview on the laptop and I wanted to get it off of there as quickly as I could
19:35 Cprossu injektion I tried using it, I've had bay networks configuration utilities with more flexibility than 8 dev preview had
19:36 Cprossu kind of a sad moment (if you've ever used bay networks stuff you know what I am talking about)
19:36 Toastdude Cprossu, "So if Sunday you're free, why don't you come with me..."
19:36 BotSteve Toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
19:36 BotSteve At 19:04Z, zombie1987 asked me to tell Toastdude http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot​os-ak-snc7/379932_257796447606701_24​4753448911001_753313_208335591_n.jpg
19:36 Cprossu and we'll poison the pigeons in the park
19:37 Cprossu !
19:37 Toastdude :D
19:37 Toastdude To both :)
19:37 Toastdude And maybe we'll do in a squirrel or two
19:37 Cprossu as we poison the pigeons in the park...
19:37 Cprossu We'll murder 'em all in laughter and merry-ment
19:38 Toastdude Lol, have you heard the Vatican Rag?
19:38 Cprossu of course
19:38 Toastdude Except for the ones we take home to experiment..
19:38 Cprossu Have you heard the tale of ricketty tickitty tin?
19:38 Toastdude No..
19:38 Cprossu you need to
19:39 Cprossu it's called 'the irish ballad' I think
19:39 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKbd_Ajkex0 @ Toastdude
19:39 Cprossu and invited the neighbors in!
19:40 Toastdude I just found it.. Lol
19:41 Toastdude Wow... I haven't heard this, but it's aweful...
19:41 Toastdude But funny! :P
19:41 Cprossu isn't it just!
19:41 Cprossu if you think that's bad you shouldlisten to the masochism tango
19:42 Toastdude Okay :P
19:44 egrsteve|away Boo
19:44 * Cprossu is scared
19:44 Toastdude Hi egrsteve|away
19:44 Cprossu oh hey egrsteve
19:44 egrsteve hi
19:44 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
19:44 BotSteve At 19:02Z, Cprossu asked me to tell egrsteve http://www.wiremarkerprinters.com​/productsK-Sun-Labelshop-BEE3.htm <- are these any good?
19:44 zombie1987 Toastdude, you like?
19:44 Toastdude Like what?
19:46 zombie1987 the photo, silly
19:46 zombie1987 from fb
19:46 Toastdude Oh, yes, I do :)
19:47 Toastdude Lol, the masochism tango is pretty bad.... :P
19:47 egrsteve cprossu I have used brother and brady lael makes, so I can't directly coomment on that one
19:47 Cprossu fair enough
19:47 egrsteve layout reminds me of brother label machines
19:47 Cprossu I think the lab needs one for wires.
19:47 Cprossu badly.
19:48 egrsteve it would be nice
19:48 Cprossu loaded with only labels for labeling wires none-the-less
19:48 Cprossu and with a warning about cutting limbs off
19:48 egrsteve at work I use the self lam ones that are 1/2" label area and 1" clear then you wrap around the wire
19:48 egrsteve those work will and stay on
19:49 egrsteve never used printed shrink tube
19:49 Cprossu I don't think we can get away with using it unless we're making the cables
19:49 Cprossu speaking of which did your BNC's make it?
19:49 angy .cookie egrsteve
19:49 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a black-and-white cookie!
19:49 egrsteve yes
19:49 egrsteve they are in my car still
19:50 Cheezmo I've done a fair bit of shrink tube and it works great, so long as you don't have large connectors in the way, like Cprossu made clear to myself
19:50 Cprossu do they look usable?
19:50 egrsteve hi angy, your travel home go well
19:50 egrsteve they look like they should be sutable for rg59/u
19:50 egrsteve what i bought them for
19:51 angy travel was good, made safe home :)
19:51 Cprossu what I mean was as in might crimp well/stay together
19:51 * Cheezmo prefers rg59/u and rg400/u but that's the aviation again
19:51 Cheezmo :P
19:51 Cprossu and most importantly won't hurt your fingers to crimp
19:51 egrsteve problem with shrink tube is if there is a connector it has to go on first
19:51 Cheezmo erm, rg58**
19:51 Cprossu RG58 is 50ohm
19:52 egrsteve 58 is 50 ohm, 59 is 75 ohm
19:52 Cheezmo and rg58 is stranded
19:52 egrsteve thats for RF not video
19:52 egrsteve 58 comes in solid and stranded
19:52 egrsteve i have used both
19:52 Cheezmo well, we only used stranded :P
19:52 Cheezmo but we used RG400/u more
19:53 Cprossu I have some solid rg58 right here lol
19:53 Cheezmo lol
19:53 Cheezmo well, we ran RG400 for all the aircraft radios P:
19:53 Cheezmo I've seen some horrible wiring
19:54 Cheezmo had a small Piper aircraft that had an N-Type connector crimped with pliers on an rg58 transponder line
19:54 Cheezmo it was so bad that it pulled the frequency off spec
19:54 Cprossu lol
19:55 Cprossu whatever gets you through the day ^ROFL^
19:55 Cprossu was that on the primary or secondary?
19:55 Cheezmo eh?
19:55 Cprossu BatSteve-Away would cringe
19:55 Cheezmo there was only one antenna on this system
19:55 Cprossu ewww
19:56 Cheezmo well, it's a standard small-aircraft setup
19:56 Cprossu yeah I know.
19:56 Cprossu doesn't mean I like it
19:56 Cheezmo :P
19:57 Cheezmo well, the medivacs I worked on had TCAS-2, so they had pri/sec and a 4-quadrant antenna on both the top and the bottom
19:57 Cheezmo a dozen friggin xpdrs... *shudder*
19:57 Cheezmo on a Beechcraft King Air 350
19:58 Cheezmo http://www.airliners.net/photo/Beech-Super-King/0​873660/&amp;sid=99bc5bb60c61e703b050dc0edf2f1c62
19:59 Cprossu I was looking at a modified one Cheezmo
19:59 Cheezmo oh?
19:59 Cprossu http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/Beech%20350%20​Super%20King%20Air%20VH-FIX%20internal.htm
19:59 Ponko now we know you would help Cprossu but would egrsteve?
19:59 Cprossu lol
20:00 Cheezmo ew, survey, lol
20:00 egrsteve ?
20:00 Ponko we had the idea to make one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mortal-Kombat-2​-Arcade-Game-VERY-NICE-/250847928086?pt=L​H_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3a67b39f16 from scratch with allen bradley joysticks and buttons
20:01 Cprossu oooh
20:01 Cprossu rofl
20:01 egrsteve cprossu the labeler you linked would not be an ideal wire label printer
20:01 Cprossu and a 30" crt from one of the 'big' monitors downstairs
20:01 Ponko i can see that working lol
20:01 Cprossu egrsteve that's all I wanted to know
20:01 Cprossu back to the drawing board lol
20:01 egrsteve something that will do diecut self-lam labels would be better
20:01 Ponko well the cabinet would be as hardcore as the game
20:02 Cheezmo http://www.airliners.net/photo/De-Havilland-Canada​/1359406/&amp;sid=ba74a342ce54af42cb688c15f6565d74
20:02 injektion I realized if I stopped using OS X it's harder to make ringtones for my phone :|
20:02 Cheezmo I wired the entire avionics setup for that puppy there
20:02 egrsteve this is what I use at work, for tgg it would be an overkill http://www.bradyid.com/bradyid/pfpv/Printers-an​d-Label-Makers~Portable-Label-Printers~TLS-2200®-Thermal-Transfer-Printers.html
20:03 Ponko cprossu that mushroom button could be the player 1/2 start button
20:03 Cprossu I saw some lower qual brady's
20:04 egrsteve not all the bradys do wire labels
20:05 Cprossu yeah I am looking now
20:05 egrsteve http://www.bradyid.com/bradyid/pfpv/P​rinters-and-Label-Makers~Wire-and-Cab​le-Marking~BMP21-Label-Printer.html
20:05 Ponko some bradys come in bunches and play QB for the Patriots
20:05 Ponko true
20:06 Cprossu http://www.l-com.com/productfamily.aspx?id=2466
20:06 Cprossu well I started by finding the labels
20:06 Electricguy feel free to follow my pointless blog where i'm going to post random electronic hacks and projects, and also other fun stuff! http://electricguy.blogg.se/
20:07 egrsteve idxpert cost 700
20:11 Cprossu I found one for $400
20:11 egrsteve which is a bit much for a printr
20:11 Cprossu at least we're going the right direction
20:11 egrsteve ok
20:12 egrsteve idxpert or eqiv woudl be great
20:12 Cprossu next thing is to see what the heck a BMP-21 can print on
20:12 Cprossu http://www.bradyid.com/bradyid/pleaseWaitView​.do?url=http://www.bradyid.com/downloads/Labe​l%20Printer_BMP21_Label%20Selection%20Guide.p​df&amp;msgkey=downloadsDetail.pleaseWait.msg
20:14 Cprossu that one is a $150 labeler... .75" nylon cloth or 1.5" self laminating vinyl
20:14 Cprossu oooh
20:14 Seroster Work on my PSU continues
20:15 Seroster SparkyProjects, How useful do you think a 375v DC outlet is?
20:15 injektion Remember the capacitors in a PSU are shock hazards if they are charged :)
20:15 Cprossu egrsteve: http://www.amazon.com/Brady-BMP-21-La​bel-Printer/dp/B003X27H9O/ref=sr_1_7?​ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1320610229&amp;sr=8-7
20:15 SparkyProjects Useful for charging caps
20:16 Seroster Can you charge
20:16 Seroster Can you fully charge a 2.5kv cap with a 375 psu?
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20:17 tonsofpcs yyou can fully charge a 2.5kV cap by leaving it outside for a few years...
20:17 Seroster tonsofpcs, Time is of the essence.
20:17 SparkyProjects Yes, but only to about 375 volts
20:17 Cprossu possibly 390
20:17 Seroster Right. Then I got no huge use of it =P
20:17 IsopropylAlcohol still enough to scare the shit outta someone
20:17 Cprossu you COULD build a C-W voltage multiplier though
20:18 Cprossu is the 375 volts ac or dc?
20:18 Seroster DC
20:18 Cprossu damn
20:18 Seroster Yeah
20:18 Seroster I could use a fucking transformer too xD
20:18 Cprossu you could just use a fucking MOT
20:19 egrsteve mot might be a bit much
20:20 egrsteve i though those are closser to 3k
20:20 angy .skittles egrsteve
20:20 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I got you some sour apple skittles!
20:20 Seroster No, mots are generally 2-2.5kv
20:20 Seroster Cprossu, As a matter of fact I have 21 MOTs in storage
20:20 Cprossu god damn
20:21 Seroster 22 if you count the rewound, 23 if you count the one I use as a ballast.
20:21 Cprossu got the original caps that went with them too?
20:21 Seroster 15 or so
20:21 * zombie-afk is having fun cleaning
20:21 egrsteve don't forget recified dc is 1.4 * RMS
20:21 Seroster And the diodes
20:21 Seroster Smoothed and rectified, right?
20:21 egrsteve chargeing a cap only peak is relavent
20:22 Seroster So yes, I could have a 3kv+ psu.
20:22 egrsteve if ecified it will reach the peak voltage
20:22 Cprossu ~ 2kv mot, rectified would be just under 3kv
20:22 egrsteve hence me saying 3k
20:23 egrsteve add a veriac and a high voltage meter or a know divider and you will be set
20:23 egrsteve *known divider
20:23 Seroster Cprossu, I got the caps, diodes, transformers, magnetrons and microswitches from at least 20 microwaves.
20:23 Cprossu a variac + a mot + a voltage divider hooked to a meter
20:23 Seroster I have scrapped a few MOTs that died, and a few of the others too.
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20:23 Cprossu rectified and you got your 2.5kv (or slightly more) PSU
20:24 Seroster Assuming I had a meter that could handle 3kv, or a variac.
20:24 Cprossu you do not need a meter that can handle 3kv!
20:24 egrsteve or a voltage divider
20:24 Cprossu you just use a voltage divider
20:24 egrsteve make  a10 to 1 divider
20:24 egrsteve you only need to measur 300 ish
20:24 egrsteve or a 100 to 1 (30v)
20:25 Cprossu aka a shit ton of resistors in series, attached to the hot and ground, you measure the leads of the middle resistor
20:25 Cprossu how many did kidwell use for the one on stomper?
20:25 Seroster Cprossu, I have made a MOTstack from six MOTs out of phase, with some of the cores floating at 6kv. I don't need a voltage divider =)
20:25 Cprossu the divider is for your METER
20:25 Seroster My bad
20:25 egrsteve not neissarily middle but place 10 10k resitors in series and measure between ground and the next one
20:25 Cprossu so you can hook a cheapo harbor freight meter to it and be happy
20:26 Seroster Future project then =)
20:26 Cprossu it's simple to make though
20:26 Seroster Atm I am working on an actual useful PSU
20:26 Seroster Cprossu, Its easy to throw together, but making it pretty and putting it in a shiny box takes a bit of effort.
20:27 Cprossu Seroster: kidwell doesn't believe in either of those statements
20:27 Seroster You may not have noticed, but I am not kidwell =)
20:27 Cprossu hahaha
20:27 egrsteve kidwell makes it work, chris makes it look good
20:28 Cprossu ^ truncated
20:28 egrsteve and safe-ish
20:28 Seroster Yes, I prefer to make it semi pretty from the beginning
20:28 Seroster And USEFUL
20:28 Cprossu Kidwell makes it work, Chris breaks it and makes it look good, Kidwell fixes it again, Chris makes it look good and doesn't break it this time, then the pretty wears off and it has to be fixed again starting the whole process again
20:29 injektion|ipad I prefer to make something useful not pretty
20:32 Cprossu hahahah http://i651.photobucket.com/albums​/uu237/pa23aztec/OkEarthquake.jpg
20:33 Cheezmo haha
20:33 Seroster What I have thrown together today is a L/N/PE outlet on a metal box, with indicator lights for the output /input, and a L/N outlet with a shorted plug in (So I can just stick my ammeter in there in a second without having to cut cables to measure shit, or even put a plug on a ballast and jab it in there) - It is about to be attatched to my safety PSU (Transformer/contactor/E-stop/lights).  In this new nice box I am also adding a te
20:33 Seroster rminal block with PE/L/N a capacitor and a blind.  Fuses will appear after I get appropriate ones.
20:34 Seroster The L/N outlet is in series with the PE/N/L
20:37 zombie-afk .tfw 48850
20:37 BotSteve 61°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Lakeview, MI!  'At least you aren't living in a small town in Alaska'
20:38 zombie-afk so thats why they're up on the roof...cuz its nice out so they can "fix" the roof before the snow comes....
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20:38 BotSteve **whispers** Quick, hide!  Before he sees us!
20:38 lwq1996 hi
20:38 zombie-afk hi
20:38 lwq1996 your still afk?
20:38 zombie-afk yes.  i'm going outside soon :P
20:38 lwq1996 and guess what
20:38 Cprossu hrmmm
20:39 Cprossu never looked at that before
20:39 zombie-afk you passed?
20:39 Cprossu "Complex Materials"
20:39 lwq1996 ?
20:39 zombie-afk hunter safety
20:39 lwq1996 no i failed miserably
20:39 zombie-afk oh noes....how/why?
20:39 zombie-afk i'm still confused....what is there to fail?
20:39 lwq1996 im kidding...
20:39 lwq1996 i passed
20:40 lwq1996 i think i only missed one question
20:40 zombie-afk what is there to fail anway....don't aim gun at people...only x amount of deer per person per season
20:40 zombie-afk be quiet so deer don't hear you
20:40 lwq1996 go take a pa course and see
20:40 zombie-afk no monies
20:41 lwq1996 dont need any to take it
20:41 zombie-afk and i'll let my uncle teach me...i already know basic gun safety
20:41 lwq1996 its a free course
20:41 zombie-afk need monies to get to the course....
20:41 lwq1996 no.....
20:41 zombie-afk gas money?  yes?
20:41 zombie-afk everything costs money
20:42 zombie-afk and i'd spend money on kerosene first....so i can heat my bedroom
20:42 zombie-afk it gets COLD in there at night...
20:42 Seroster Hello there le
20:42 Seroster lee*
20:42 lwq1996 hi
20:42 lwq1996 i can now hunt deer :P
20:42 Seroster And zombie, There are loads of ways to keep a bedroom warm =D
20:42 zombie-afk none applicable to me, thanks :P
20:42 zombie-afk its more like a garage, so it has insulation fail
20:42 Seroster I was going to suggest getting a cat.
20:43 zombie-afk allergic
20:43 lwq1996 lol
20:43 lwq1996 dog?
20:43 lwq1996 like max
20:43 lwq1996 or omni :P
20:43 zombie-afk theres already three here....
20:43 Seroster Instead of buying tons of kerosene and burning it, spend a few bucks on a roll of fiberglass, a staple gun and an old bedsheet.
20:43 zombie-afk and chihuahua's aren't good for snuggling with
20:43 zombie-afk plus
20:43 zombie-afk allergic
20:43 zombie-afk not my walls...and they ahve STUFF on them :grrr:
20:44 Seroster They can handle a dozen staples.
20:44 Seroster go on craigslist and find a loft bed
20:44 injektion|ipad Your allergic to dogs?
20:44 zombie-afk i dunno, the roof can't handle snow....
20:44 zombie-afk injektion|ipad - most, yes
20:44 injektion|ipad :(
20:44 zombie-afk i take meds to deal with the allergies
20:44 zombie-afk and love on dogs anyway :D
20:44 lwq1996 i want a saint banard
20:44 Seroster Put the bed part under the loft, store stuff on top of the loft and put a curtain around the bed, the temperature difference of inside and outside the curtain could be a lot.
20:45 zombie-afk BERNARD
20:45 Seroster Keeping the heat in is far cheaper than making new heat
20:45 injektion|ipad Also less wasteful
20:45 zombie-afk i just cover myself with blankets and have my eyes peek out....
20:45 lwq1996 wannabe has pms today it seems
20:45 Seroster lwq1996....
20:45 zombie-afk i need the heat in the room to keep my canned goods and my pop from asploding
20:45 zombie-afk no lee, i don't
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20:46 Seroster Do you want to know something VERY useful about women?
20:46 Seroster Most likely the most useful thing you will ever learn?
20:46 zombie-afk you don't say/spell right, i'll correct you!
20:46 zombie-afk yes
20:46 injektion|ipad What's the thermal efficiency of a furnace or heater anyway?
20:46 lwq1996 make them happy and you will be happy
20:46 Seroster When you suspect a woman got PMS... DONT FUCKING MENTION IT! Even if they haven't got PMS they will rip off your head and shove it in your armpit.
20:46 Ponko haha lol i just some bloke waving a gun around then Crockett picked the gun up after the bloke put it down and it was made of chocolate
20:46 Ponko Seroster yep that's SOO true
20:46 zombie-afk in this trailer? injektion|ipad nil :P
20:47 * zombie-afk rips lee's head off, shoving it in Seroster's armpit
20:47 zombie-afk BRAINZ
20:47 Seroster EW! I JUST WASHED THAT YOU PMS B****!
20:47 zombie-afk lol
20:47 zombie-afk gotta go clean out the car, bbl
20:47 zombie-afk (this seems like a good time to go)
20:47 Seroster Gotta go clean out your... Nah. That's for the other room.
20:48 * Ponko goes all Sub Zero on zombie and rips head and spine out
20:48 Seroster Sadly zombie-afk is never there
20:48 Ponko lol
20:48 Seroster astro73, why have you got so many twins?
20:48 Ponko because he's skitso?
20:48 Seroster I can get if you got your main nick, your bot and your downstairs computer, but FOUR?
20:48 Ponko lol different locations
20:48 Seroster I doubt that is the proper spelling, but yeah.
20:49 injektion|ipad I only have 1 device connected
20:49 lwq1996 i may have 2
20:49 Ponko i believe it is i can't remember my
20:49 Seroster Yeah, but it's an iPad, so it will most likely break into at least a million devices the second you touch it.
20:50 Ponko .w Skitsophrenia
20:50 BotSteve "Jerry Stegall rocks your socks off." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jstegall
20:50 Ponko O_O wtf
20:50 Seroster .w Schizofrenia?
20:50 BotSteve "Schizophrenia ( /ˌskɪtsɵˈfrɛniə/ or /ˌskɪtsɵˈfriːniə/) is a mental disorder characterized by a disintegration of thought processes and of emotional responsiveness." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia
20:50 lwq1996 lol
20:50 Seroster Schizophrenia
20:50 Ponko ah well it's said Skitso as it says
20:50 Seroster Swedish uses the f instead of ph in that particular word
20:51 Ponko well it*
20:51 Seroster You can't say he's schizo, you should either say "He's got schizophrenia" or "He's a schizoid"
20:51 injektion|ipad Seroster: This iPad is still in one piece :P
20:52 Seroster injektion|ipad, BOOH!
20:52 Seroster *Crash*
20:52 Ponko well seroster i have that
20:52 injektion|ipad Still in once piece
20:52 injektion|ipad My iPad has an otterbox case
20:52 Ponko good oo
20:53 Seroster You have schizophrenia?
20:53 Ponko yeah mild stints
20:54 Seroster Another nutjob! YAY!
20:54 injektion|ipad I am bipolar lol
20:54 Seroster Another nutjob! YAY!
20:54 injektion|ipad I am taking lithium for it
20:54 Ponko lol well i've been a nut job since 17/03/1992
20:54 Seroster Sweet, burn it, injektion|ipad!
20:54 injektion|ipad No
20:54 injektion|ipad I need it
20:55 injektion|ipad Lithium is the only drug I can take which still allows me to drink
20:56 Ponko i haven't had any problems since 2008
20:56 Seroster What do you take ponkie?
20:57 Ponko umm i can't spell it :P
20:57 Ponko Diazipam
20:57 Seroster HA
20:58 Ponko what?
20:58 Seroster Valium
20:59 IsopropylAlcohol I use to take Zoloft
20:59 Seroster But valium isnt a neuroleptic
20:59 IsopropylAlcohol I miss that shit, easy to get on, easy to get off of, and mellowed me out
20:59 Seroster Zoloft is a fun drug
20:59 IsopropylAlcohol it is
21:00 Seroster I think Mom wants us to keep the drug shit to #TGG_NSFW
21:00 Ponko well i did cocaine and weed to :(
21:00 Ponko oh yeah
21:01 Cprossu I love the internet
21:01 Cprossu http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/​purl/808358-Jnqfum/native/808358.pdf
21:01 Ponko the internet is full of vast intrigue
21:08 * Ponko has killed the chat
21:09 Seroster Yes you did
21:09 Cprossu wow.
21:10 Ponko i know lol
21:10 Ponko what's up Cprossu
21:10 Cprossu looking at people who tried to join my garrysmod server
21:10 Cprossu and guessed the pw wrong
21:10 Cprossu (pw is lol)
21:10 egrsteve yay Jurassic park theme
21:11 Cprossu egrsteve: on what?
21:11 injektion|ipad Crappy windows update servers
21:11 Ponko welcome to....
21:12 angy microscop world
21:12 Cprossu so egrsteve
21:12 Cprossu you'll laugh at this
21:12 Ponko Jurassic Park
21:12 Cprossu stream's been up for 28hours 20min or so
21:12 Cprossu zero buffer time
21:12 egrsteve what did you do>
21:12 egrsteve ?
21:12 egrsteve and pandora
21:12 Cprossu absolutely nothing.
21:13 Cprossu except have everyone at the geek group not be there.
21:13 egrsteve maybe thay were having a xerver outage
21:13 Cprossu I am blaming cory.
21:14 egrsteve we had rouble log after cory left that night
21:14 Cprossu it's easy and convenient
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21:14 Cprossu he didn't shut down his pc did he?
21:14 egrsteve it was off or sleeping
21:14 egrsteve i think
21:14 Cprossu my bet is the screen was blank as bit torrent was rocking both the wifi and the wired
21:14 Cprossu as he's connected to both again
21:14 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​OzSFs-rlc3o&amp;feature=related here you go egrsteve
21:15 egrsteve have ynos block his mac on wired
21:15 Cprossu he did download irix for us, that was kinda neat
21:15 Cprossu so hrmmm
21:16 KB3NZQ irix is what?
21:16 egrsteve or someone needs to remind him wired or wireless but not both
21:16 Cprossu .w irix
21:16 BotSteve "IRIX is a computer operating system developed by Silicon Graphics, Inc. (SGI) to run natively on their 32- and 64-bit MIPS architecture workstations and servers." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irix
21:16 angy Yay! IRIX
21:16 KB3NZQ what kind of computer does he have
21:16 egrsteve imac
21:17 injektion|ipad <3 IRIX
21:17 KB3NZQ open his imac and rip out the wifi card
21:17 egrsteve need some big suction cups then
21:17 Cprossu YAY! /me gets out his super powerful neodynium magnets!
21:18 Cprossu oh wait I am in phoenix.shit.
21:18 KB3NZQ the glass guys in the area should have the suction cups i'm in pittsburgh pa so i can't help with that
21:19 egrsteve good to know
21:19 egrsteve thats one f those computer lab tools no one would understand till they saw someone use it
21:20 Cprossu time for me to watch back to the future
21:20 KB3NZQ does cory own that imac or not
21:20 egrsteve it's corys
21:20 injektion|ipad My screen just turned black after the nvidia drivers installed
21:20 egrsteve so we can't kill the wifi
21:20 Cprossu good job!
21:20 Cprossu OOOH I got an idea
21:20 Cprossu egrsteve what if we just disconnect the internal antennas?
21:21 egrsteve thought about it
21:21 KB3NZQ then it would burn out the transmitter in the card
21:21 Cprossu it shouldn't
21:21 Cprossu they throttle themselves you know
21:21 KB3NZQ it will though over time
21:21 egrsteve it could though
21:22 egrsteve add 50 ohm resistor
21:22 Cprossu dummy load!
21:22 egrsteve non radiating dummy loadd
21:22 KB3NZQ block his mac address for wifi
21:22 Cprossu on all the AP's?
21:22 Cprossu we have like 12 now
21:23 NeWtoz OR... just admin the network...
21:23 egrsteve that would be the easy thing
21:23 angy blocking a mac is a real pain
21:23 egrsteve ynos shoudl be able to no it at an admin level
21:23 egrsteve just block it on tgg-nle
21:23 angy yeah, it's possible, but it's a real pain to do on theses ap
21:23 angy it's way easier to lock it on just the fw though
21:23 Cprossu hell I could block NLE right now
21:24 Cprossu but it would search the next signal
21:24 Cprossu and go from there
21:24 KB3NZQ if only you had a radius server
21:24 angy that will never append
21:24 Cprossu tgg-nle is a linksys
21:24 Cprossu I think I modded it with dd-wrt
21:24 angy =)
21:24 Cprossu but that doesn't change the fact
21:25 Cprossu that it would seek another AP
21:25 angy bit torrent is going to be quite throttled in the near future
21:25 Cprossu and as soon as ynos gets back to the lab
21:25 egrsteve that should help
21:25 Cprossu no more dhcp from the modem!
21:25 Cprossu that will help more than anything
21:25 angy yay!
21:25 KB3NZQ sonic wall
21:26 angy way more powerful
21:26 angy direct usage of pf
21:27 injektion|ipad Does anyone know what could be issue with this video problem
21:27 egrsteve just route all external calls from cory to dev/null
21:27 angy kick the card?
21:27 angy that may be fun steve
21:28 Cprossu we can toss cory's packets into the bit bucket!
21:28 Cprossu yay!
21:28 KB3NZQ untangle
21:28 angy openbsd ftw
21:28 KB3NZQ smoothwall
21:28 angy route cory back to cry
21:28 angy *cory
21:28 NeWtoz I'm a fan of pfsense
21:28 Cprossu OOOH
21:28 Cprossu I got an idea
21:28 Cprossu route ALL packets to cory
21:29 Cprossu for one day
21:29 KB3NZQ pf sense to
21:29 angy that may be super fun that one
21:29 angy pfSense I think that's how they write it
21:29 Cprossu NETBIOS from the internet to cory's mac
21:29 Cprossu make it cry
21:29 angy route /the internet/ to Cory
21:29 angy that will be so fun
21:29 Cprossu HAHAHA
21:30 angy we will need a quite bigger pipe though
21:30 egrsteve rout the internet in his wired out his wireless
21:30 egrsteve all trafic passes through nim
21:30 Cprossu just copy packets and send to both as you do what egrsteve suggested
21:31 Cprossu change the packet order too
21:31 Cprossu ^
21:31 angy generate random weird pack for him
21:31 KB3NZQ better yet captive portol him so he has to pay per gb transfered even if it is in house
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21:31 angy there is a packet generator on one of the HP box
21:31 Cprossu actually
21:31 Cprossu oooh
21:31 Cprossu angy: we could borrow ynos' hp 9k's
21:32 egrsteve put him in his own subnet no Fw let the world ping him to death
21:32 Cprossu and make them produce traffic to bombard him to death by packet
21:32 angy get an AS400 and make it talk token-ring over ethernet
21:32 Cprossu it will also heat whatever room we put them in
21:32 Cprossu well our AS400 is opperational
21:32 Cprossu ^_^
21:33 Cprossu 1 as400, 2 hp 9k's, we'll run a special gb ethernet to his imac
21:33 angy I'm not sure your as400 got the right network card for doing that
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21:33 Cprossu it'll be fine, the hp 9k's have gb
21:33 angy Hey! Pk'1!
21:34 KB3NZQ or Astaro security gateway
21:34 Ponko1 BLOODY HELL
21:34 Ponko1 dang thing
21:34 angy I have somewhere a traffic generator
21:34 angy it's even worse than a packet generateor
21:34 Cprossu oooh I have an idea that would work too angy
21:35 Cprossu anyone got $1000?
21:35 injektion|ipad I wish I did
21:35 Cprossu put cory's mac in the DMZ, "$1000 reward, full root, mac security test"
21:35 Cprossu post to 4chan
21:35 injektion|ipad Even if I had 1k I wouldn't use it to harass someone
21:35 angy offer a shrunk quarter
21:35 KB3NZQ http://www.astaro.com/en-us/products/ast​aro-security-gateway-software-appliance
21:35 Cprossu welll
21:36 Cprossu good point
21:36 angy that's better and cost a lot less
21:36 Cprossu put cory's mac in the DMZ, "one of a kind shrunk quarter reward, full root, mac security test"
21:36 Cprossu orrrrrrrrr
21:36 Cprossu hrmmm
21:36 Cprossu what's metal and 4chan esque?
21:36 KB3NZQ and all his passwords and account numbers
21:36 Cprossu how about an aluminum nyan cat plaque?
21:37 angy try talking Moose into that one
21:37 Cprossu it'll work
21:37 Cprossu it'll involve dying aluminum
21:38 egrsteve selective color anadizing
21:38 astro73|alice_ that sounds like fun
21:39 Cprossu anodizing
21:39 Cprossu or however it's sphelled
21:39 angy we're going to be able to do so many wrong things to cory's mac
21:39 egrsteve you know what i mean
21:39 Cprossu so when's the next hv weekend?
21:39 masterofmonks Cprossu: I just saw a nice thing on anodizing aluminum without using sulfuric acid...
21:39 masterofmonks Which I woudl never use...
21:39 egrsteve stip down his mac and anodize it
21:39 Cprossu I saw that on hack-a-day masterofmonks
21:40 masterofmonks Cprossu: Same.
21:40 egrsteve 2 weeks i think
21:40 masterofmonks I think I will stick with sulfuric acid though.
21:40 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​nHBuKmyhbtQ&amp;feature=related wow
21:40 egrsteve clean his imac with lye
21:40 Cprossu dealing with sulfuric is much preferred to hydrochloric =P
21:40 egrsteve re anodize is nyan cat
21:40 masterofmonks Cprossu: They are about the same to me.
21:40 egrsteve *it nyan cat
21:41 masterofmonks I mean realistically they are not, but in terms of what I need to do to handle them.
21:41 egrsteve or just make it pink, I bet he would love a pink imac
21:41 angy Yay! windows 2k8 is dead, mostly because of oracle! re-install again time
21:42 KB3NZQ cprossu do you still have remote in to mcc
21:42 Cprossu angy YAY!!!!!!!!! ding dong the win2k 8 is dead
21:42 Cprossu is there an R2 already?
21:42 angy I use 2k8 R2 SP1
21:42 Cprossu kkk
21:42 Cprossu k
21:43 Cprossu too many k's
21:43 Cprossu fffffffffffffffffffff\
21:43 angy add a few other, there you go kkkkk
21:43 KB3NZQ FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
21:43 Seroster Just took a shower
21:43 Seroster Let's poke around with electricity!
21:43 injektion|ipad My dad has a coworker who is in the kkk :(
21:43 angy we don't need all details Seroster
21:43 Cprossu uncool :(
21:44 angy why did you still stay in the US?
21:44 dr_jkl i have no life...
21:45 masterofmonks I have a spatula.
21:45 dr_jkl i can put on the soundtrack to ST:TMP, close my eyes, and see the movie in my head, hear all the dialog....  i can do that with all the movies.
21:45 Ponko o_O do you mom
21:46 injektion|ipad angy: I was unlucky enough to be forced to move to Hicksville
21:46 masterofmonks injektion|ipad: You live in Atlanta.
21:47 masterofmonks That is most certainly not hicksville.
21:47 injektion|ipad I live in metro Atlanta
21:47 injektion|ipad Big difference
21:47 masterofmonks For one thing, you don't find kkk members in hicksville, around here everyone is poor and grew up eating collard greens.
21:48 injektion|ipad I could say t he same thing about where I live
21:49 angy I like remote desktop for mac, each time you quit it, it crashes
21:49 injektion|ipad Lol
21:50 angy and after sending the report, the report application crashes and lunch another report app
21:50 dbshortwave then that crashes
21:50 angy I tend to kill the process
21:50 * dbshortwave nods
21:55 injektion|ipad 3 minutes to see if I fixed the problem
22:03 masterofmonks zombie1987: What's in your head?
22:03 Cprossu it's been over 3 minutes, did it work injektion|ipad?
22:03 zombie1987 brains?
22:03 injektion|ipad No
22:03 * masterofmonks sighs
22:03 angy that's sad
22:03 injektion|ipad Fucking windows
22:03 * Cprossu chunks zombie1987 a woodchuck
22:03 masterofmonks Another pop culture reference missed.
22:03 zombie1987 masterofmonks i'm not sure, actually
22:04 masterofmonks .yt The cranberries zombie
22:04 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ejga4kJUts
22:04 zombie1987 youo chunked a woodchuck?  ow
22:04 zombie1987 no videos....sorry....on sat interwebz
22:04 Cprossu it's tasty
22:04 Cprossu zombies can eat woodchucks I Think
22:04 Cprossu or at least I saw it in "The Walking Dead" anyway
22:04 * zombie1987 needs to watch that yet...
22:05 Cprossu eat the woodchuck, be happy
22:05 * zombie1987 noms on woodchuck
22:05 * zombie1987 is having mac'n'cheese and wine tonight for dinner :D
22:05 zombie1987 its the boyfriend 21st tomorrow, we're starting early :D
22:05 masterofmonks That's wrong, and weird.
22:06 * Cprossu wishes he could get plutonium at any corner drug store =(
22:06 zombie1987 whats wrong?
22:06 zombie1987 mac'n'cheese and wine?
22:06 zombie1987 ik
22:06 Cprossu watching back to the future.
22:06 zombie1987 i could cook with the wine....hmmmm
22:06 zombie1987 but its pink wine and i think i need white to cook with
22:07 masterofmonks Cprossu: My brother is going to buy a delorean later this month.
22:07 zombie1987 win
22:07 masterofmonks Cprossu: For you. http://www.orau.org/ptp/collec​tion/quackcures/vitasuppad.jpg
22:09 masterofmonks And you see ladies and gentlemen, that is how you kill chat.
22:10 zombie1987 lol
22:14 Cprossu I've seen those before lol
22:14 Cprossu yikes.
22:14 dbshortwave http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-​ak-ash4/s320x320/318683_199076886834481​_177387432336760_451916_665362891_n.jpg
22:14 * angy fondles Seroster
22:14 angy time to go! see ya
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22:14 Cprossu http://www.museumofquackery.c​om/devices/images/shoexlg.jpg
22:15 Cprossu ^ want to not have feet much longer?
22:15 masterofmonks The funny thing, is that due to certain physiological responses unrelated to the radium, they probably did fulfill their claims.
22:15 masterofmonks Ah a Flouroscope.
22:17 injektion|ipad I remember something I was watching about that how the first radiologists wore black gloves to hide the damage done to their hands
22:19 Cprossu lol
22:20 Cprossu well at least until anal cancer
22:20 Ponko brb
22:21 Cprossu I wonder masterofmonks
22:21 Cprossu .w Radithor
22:21 BotSteve "Radithor was a patent medicine (snake oil) that is a well known example of radioactive quackery." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radithor
22:21 zombie1987 time for me to get offline and do "stuff"  might be back later, doubt it tho
22:21 Cprossu ^ was that the one which the guy drang a shit ton of and died?
22:22 zombie1987 BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 to take photos of ring in backpack and stone and send to the NA guy in email
22:22 BotSteve zombie1987: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
22:22 zombie1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude i had to get offline
22:22 BotSteve zombie1987: I'll pass that on when toastdude is around.
22:22 masterofmonks Who files their Xes any more? I mean I was under the impression that the production quality of the letter X had increased to the level that they didn't need any consumer modification any mroe.
22:22 Cprossu yes it was YAY
22:22 Cprossu .w Eben Byers
22:22 BotSteve "Eben McBurney Byers (April 12, 1880 – March 31, 1932) was a wealthy American socialite, athlete, and industrialist." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eben_Byers
22:23 Cprossu ahhahahaaha
22:23 Cprossu "He is buried in Allegheny Cemetery in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in a lead-lined coffin."
22:25 masterofmonks I think that is probably a sensational response.
22:26 Cprossu likely
22:31 dbshortwave http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot​os-ak-ash4/297982_198966656845504_17​7387432336760_451651_720710501_n.jpg
22:31 injektion|ipad Looks like I am going to have to build a windows ov
22:32 Ponko-X-Filing yay
22:32 injektion|ipad Pc
22:32 Ponko-X-Filing ?
22:34 injektion|ipad Fucking shit
22:34 injektion|ipad The god damn drivers
22:34 injektion|ipad Fuck
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22:41 masterofmonks http://i.imgur.com/ZNecq.png
22:42 mantere__ joined #thegeekgroup
22:43 * Katemonster bites exor674
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22:49 Cprossu LOL
22:55 Cprossu that's odd
22:55 Cprossu someone's trying to break into my garrysmod server...
22:55 Cprossu in console their address is 98.220.250.0
22:56 Cprossu gee I wonder if that's spoofed =P
22:57 Seroster Goodnight folks
22:57 * Seroster fondles angy-away
22:58 * Seroster fondles... Err... Glomps... CaptainNiobe
22:59 tlockley joined #thegeekgroup
23:00 dr_jkl tlockley: hey
23:00 tlockley hey dr_jkl
23:00 dr_jkl tlockley: do you still have posting issues on the new forum?
23:00 tlockley didnt know the new forum was up
23:01 tlockley yes it seems that i can reply
23:01 tlockley lemme try
23:04 tlockley dr_jkl, it works now. YAY! :D
23:04 dr_jkl awesome
23:04 dr_jkl it would have been a pain in the ass to fix on the old forums
23:04 dr_jkl i apologize for having to make you wait it out
23:05 tlockley NP, just glad i can use them now
23:05 tlockley actually i have a question for you
23:05 * dr_jkl looks over her glasses
23:05 dr_jkl mm?
23:06 tlockley I am working on a project that is very similar in style to reddit for a way to let TGG members and staff share important links with members
23:06 tlockley I was wondering if you or anyone has an interest in this
23:06 dr_jkl it's very possible i would have an interest
23:06 tlockley such as all the times that chris mentions video links and the such
23:07 tlockley so that you could consult like a donations list with links or notes about items needed
23:10 dbshortwave http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1983​81846903985&amp;set=a.177389062336597.43232​.177387432336760&amp;type=1&amp;permPage=1
23:10 dr_jkl he needs to post another damn video is what he needs to do
23:10 dr_jkl it's been two days
23:11 dr_jkl I NEED MY FIX, MAN!
23:11 tlockley i know
23:11 tlockley its torture
23:11 tlockley but what do you think of that idea?
23:12 dr_jkl i think it has potential
23:13 tlockley alright
23:14 * dr_jkl curtseys and returns to her perl
23:14 dr_jkl someone highlight me if you need me
23:23 tlockley Cprossu you around?
23:23 tlockley .seen Cprossu
23:23 BotSteve tlockley: I last saw cprossu 0.46 hours ago at 2011-11-06 22:56:04 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:23:42 UTC
23:25 Cprossu I leave for one moment
23:25 Cprossu lol
23:25 Cprossu tlockley what's up?
23:25 dr_jkl .seen dr_jkl
23:25 BotSteve dr_jkl: I last saw dr_jkl 0.18 hours ago at 2011-11-06 23:14:38 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:25:13 UTC
23:25 dr_jkl lol
23:25 tlockley just wanted to try and pick your brain Cprossu
23:25 tlockley i am having some fan issues with a late 2006 intel xserve
23:26 Cprossu Intel Xserv?
23:26 tlockley yah
23:26 Cprossu ok
23:26 Cprossu as in Apple branded intel powered?
23:26 tlockley yah
23:26 tlockley 2x dual-core 3Ghz Xeons
23:27 Cprossu hot running machine you got there
23:27 Cprossu so what's it doing?
23:27 Cprossu or _not_ doing
23:27 tlockley problem is half of the fans in the primary fan block are running at 12k+ on average and the fans are constatnly surging
23:27 tlockley sorta like revving a car but worse
23:28 Cprossu gonna guess you tried updating the firmware already
23:28 tlockley and reset the SMC, and PRAM
23:28 tlockley it used to run fine
23:28 Cprossu possible to repaste those heatsinks without breaking anything?
23:28 tlockley yah
23:28 Cprossu I'd give that a go first
23:29 Cprossu also what do the temp monitors say?
23:29 tlockley dunno, i need to turn it on again
23:29 Cprossu do the PSU fans seem to be working?
23:30 tlockley thats the trick, there is a block of 16fans at the front of the machine behind the hot swap connectors that blow air over the ram and CPU through plastic ducting
23:31 tlockley also the drive bays recently stopped accepting drive and TGG has my only other two sata trays
23:32 Cprossu hrmm that's not good
23:32 tlockley yah, so right now it is booting over fibrechannel to my xserve raid
23:33 Cprossu well apparently you're not alone
23:33 dbshortwave MMMYEAH
23:33 tlockley CPU A: 75F; CPU B: 72F; N-Bridge: 100F
23:34 Cprossu that's freezing cold for those processors
23:34 tlockley CPU A Fans (In, Out): 15k, 8k rpm
23:34 Cprossu hrmmm
23:34 tlockley well i just turned the system on in my basement
23:34 Cprossu how does the front vent look dust wise?
23:35 Cprossu plenty of suction through it?
23:35 tlockley cleaned it two weeks ago
23:35 tlockley nearly as good as my vaccume
23:35 tlockley IIRC the fans are good to 18-20k rpms
23:35 tlockley and they are in stack of two. one sucking one pushing
23:35 Cprossu 15k rpm accd to this is the failsafe speed
23:36 Cprossu aka when the OS doesn't take control of it
23:36 tlockley hmmm
23:36 tlockley only a couple are at 15k
23:36 tlockley the rest are between 8 and 10k
23:36 Cprossu so there's a back end air intake
23:36 Cprossu hrmmm
23:37 tlockley the only fans in the entire case are at the front of the MOBO and in the PSU
23:37 Cprossu do we know which fans are 15k?
23:37 tlockley and there is one fan infron to dimm 2 that is at 17k
23:38 tlockley FBDIMM-2 In: 17,792 rpm
23:38 Cprossu yikes
23:38 tlockley yah the fan module is kind toast
23:38 tlockley or something
23:39 dr_jkl are you getting adequate heat transfer to the heatsinks?
23:39 Cprossu did you add any memory recently?
23:39 tlockley no
23:39 Cprossu eg when you did the cleaning
23:39 Cprossu 2 months ago
23:40 Cprossu did any hardware changes occur pre and post noise?
23:40 tlockley nope, same ram, same sata module, same non-apple std hdd
23:40 dr_jkl lol
23:40 tlockley and it ran find with the non standatd hdd
23:40 tlockley *fine
23:40 dr_jkl apple would tell you to put an apple hd in it
23:41 dr_jkl i hate dealing with apple sometimes
23:41 tlockley me too, but you cant argue with free
23:41 dr_jkl true
23:41 N_M free stuff is always the best
23:41 N_M I love my free HDDs especially during the low stock right now
23:42 tlockley heh
23:42 tlockley yah, free server equip is the best tho.
23:42 dr_jkl #%!@#
23:42 Cprossu speaking of which
23:42 tlockley now what jkl
23:42 dr_jkl i would give head for some server equipment
23:42 Cprossu is there any drive physically in the machine right now tlockley?
23:42 N_M so true have a couple of xeon laying around
23:42 tlockley no Cprossu
23:43 tlockley the machine is empty except for ram and a fibrechannel card
23:43 Cprossu power off, shove the acting up drive in, boot up on fibre anyway?
23:43 tlockley worth a shot i guess
23:43 tonsofpcs huh?
23:43 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: it could be worse, they could be Avid.
23:43 Cprossu if it's looking for a temp sensor on the hdd, that could be it was my thought @ tonsofpcs
23:43 tlockley cpus still 75/73F
23:44 Cprossu it's either freezing in your place or it's lying.
23:44 Cprossu that's freaking frozen for those cpu's
23:44 tlockley except the hdd it had does not have a temp sensor, nor the apple rom ones either
23:44 Cprossu they should be cruising around 120F
23:44 tlockley lol
23:44 Cprossu all SMART hdd's have a sensor
23:45 Cprossu in short, if it's SATA it's got a sensor.
23:45 tlockley ok, well i just threw a new SATA in the tray and put it in
23:45 dr_jkl apple hardware doesn't give a fuck about granular SMART data
23:45 * tlockley crosses fingers
23:45 dr_jkl it looks at SMART pass or fail
23:46 Cprossu yeah but it is there
23:46 Cprossu so it's worth a try
23:46 Cprossu if nothing else
23:46 dr_jkl its like when i had my new macbook and i was trying to explain that smartutil was showing a 3 week old macbook had half-a-million headparks, and i was trying to tell them the controller was b0rked
23:46 tlockley drive tray is giving me a red light. (doesent want to play)
23:47 Cprossu well ignore it's red light
23:47 tlockley alright, working on getting a different temp report ATM
23:47 dr_jkl they were like zomg you can give it to us to repair! so i started screaming. manager gave me a new macbook and swapped out my non-stock ram for me :D
23:51 tlockley cpu heat sinks read 75F, cpu cores read 63-54F
23:51 tlockley there is def something wrong and in a bad way
23:53 N_M when isnt there something wrong with a PC lol
23:54 Cprossu hrmmm
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23:54 N_M bloody things are annoying when you have to pinpoint the problems lol
23:54 Cprossu can you 'finger verify' the temps on the heatsinks?
23:54 roadran422 Hey!
23:54 Cprossu @ tlockley
23:55 roadran422 Is toastdude on?
23:55 tlockley hang on
23:55 dr_jkl .seen toastdude
23:55 BotSteve dr_jkl: I last saw toastdude 4.14 hours ago at 2011-11-06 19:47:25 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:55:58 UTC
23:56 roadran422 Nope.... Thanks dr_jkl
23:56 roadran422 Also, where'd you get the usrname csi las vegas?
23:57 dr_jkl no, jkl is my initals
23:57 dr_jkl someone started caling me dr. jkl one day, and it stuck.
23:57 roadran422 Oh hahaha.... Well Dr. Jeckel (or how ever you spell it) is a serial killer in CSI Las Vegas xD
23:58 Cprossu I still can't see those processors running _that_ cool
23:58 Cprossu unless he has his temp at like 40F inside
23:58 tlockley inside what?
23:58 Cprossu ambient
23:58 dr_jkl your basement?
23:59 roadran422 Is anyone at the lab?
23:59 dr_jkl it's feasible! mother nature did drop an autumn bomb on us the other day
23:59 tlockley ambiant 68ish

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