Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-10

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00:04 tonsofpcs dbshortwave: that's why we have degaussing coils
00:05 Sgt_Lemming oh ffs, fscking crosslisters
00:05 dbshortwave lol
00:05 Sgt_Lemming listing a foldback speaker in computer monitors...
00:06 Sgt_Lemming http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MONITOR-FOLDBACK-/250925057470?pt=AU_comp_monitor&hash=item3a6c4c85be
00:32 Toastdude Wow, the chat is really dead...
00:37 tlockley heh
00:37 Cprossu hey yNos still therE?
00:37 * Monkeh wanders in with a gigantic needle
00:37 tlockley Cprossu: so i applied the paste but the diagnostic test still keeps on reading bad
00:48 Sgt_Lemming AHT?
00:50 Cprossu sad face tlockley
00:50 Cprossu oooh
00:51 Cprossu I got a good idea
00:51 tlockley yah, though i havent been able to identify what cpu b core 0 is
00:51 tlockley oh
00:51 Cprossu swap the cpu's tlockley
00:51 Cprossu xD
00:51 tlockley so put a in b and b in a?
00:51 Cprossu yes
00:51 tlockley lemme go and try now
00:54 Cprossu woo
00:55 tlockley btw thanks for the help Cprossu
00:56 Sgt_Lemming is it actually giving an overtemp error tlockley?
00:57 tlockley no however because the fan controller is deeply integrated with the SMC device and the sensors, if a sensor is off it usuially throws everything out of whack
00:57 tlockley so in my case the sensor test reads that cpu b core 0 is above high limit
00:57 Sgt_Lemming have you reset SMC and PRAM?
00:58 tlockley yes... alot
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01:00 Ponko yay back
01:02 Monkeh SMC.. When Apples fail?
01:02 Ponko hmm
01:02 Sgt_Lemming SMC == System Management Controller
01:02 Sgt_Lemming basically their version of cmos settings
01:02 tlockley and TPM
01:02 Sgt_Lemming that too
01:02 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yes, I know what SMC refers to when it comes to Apple machines. Just wondering if I was guessing right.
01:03 Sgt_Lemming it's pretty much the first thing to try on any intel based mac having hardware issues
01:03 tlockley yah, and the worst part is there are more temp sensors in this thing than fans... ther are a lot of fans too
01:03 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: HW issues? Oh, Macs don't have those. ;)
01:03 Sgt_Lemming that's not uncommon for servers tlockley
01:04 tlockley 18fans in 1u? thas kind alot
01:04 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, I worked for apple tech support until start of september, I beg to differ :-P
01:04 tlockley i have two other 1u servers that have maybe 4 total each
01:04 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Sarcasm. ;)
01:04 Sgt_Lemming again, not uncommon tlockley
01:04 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, I gathered as much, I was replying sarcastically as well
01:05 Sgt_Lemming seen some dell boxes with basically an entire double stacked row of fans across the front
01:05 Monkeh They made another server after their aborted attempt at a G5 space heater?
01:05 Sgt_Lemming yeah, there were some intel ones
01:05 Sgt_Lemming .w xserve
01:05 BotSteve "Xserve was a line of rack unit computers designed by Apple Inc. for use as servers." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xserve
01:05 Monkeh Pity the fool who paid full price for that. :)
01:05 tlockley hey now that g5 space heater was all the heat i had for a while
01:06 tlockley and i pitty the fool that buys ssd drives for their macs
01:06 tlockley from apple
01:06 Sgt_Lemming amusingly enough the dual opteron server I have here runs on a whopping 400watts
01:06 Monkeh Oh, lord, at their markups?
01:06 Sgt_Lemming runs incredibly cool
01:07 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: AMD have interesting CPUs when it comes to heat..
01:07 Sgt_Lemming I ran into the wonderful one when I worked there of someone who wanted to put a sata III ssd in the macbook pro
01:07 Sgt_Lemming problem was he had an early revision one and the sata III was borked on them
01:07 Sgt_Lemming apple refused to do anything about it as it was not an advertised feature
01:07 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Mobile ones are great for cooking bacon. Low to mid range desktop are iceboxes, and high end desktop stuff is great if your mansion is a little chilly.
01:08 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh I have an AMD based HP thin client here
01:08 Sgt_Lemming it has a fanless AMD sempron in it drawing 8w
01:08 Sgt_Lemming and it's from 2007
01:08 Sgt_Lemming 9w orry
01:09 Sgt_Lemming bleh, I fail at typing this morning
01:09 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I built a system with that sort of CPU around that time. It only barely exceeded room temperature.
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01:10 tlockley alright, now to run axd
01:13 * tlockley thorws hands in the air in disgust
01:14 tlockley same fucking error
01:14 Sgt_Lemming with the cpu's move around?
01:14 tlockley yep
01:14 Sgt_Lemming well that tells you an obvious one :-P
01:15 tlockley eh? mobo fucked?
01:15 Sgt_Lemming quite possibly
01:15 Monkeh Remote possibility of a dirty socket?
01:15 Sgt_Lemming possible, but unlikely
01:15 Sgt_Lemming intel or g5 based tlockley?
01:15 Monkeh Someone would have had to take them out
01:15 tlockley intel
01:15 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: If it's SMC it's Intel, surely?
01:15 tlockley late 2006 model
01:15 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: PPC was SMU
01:16 tlockley with the 3.0Ghz
01:16 Sgt_Lemming check for bent pins in the socket tlockley?
01:16 Sgt_Lemming bent/broken/burnt
01:16 * Monkeh shudders
01:16 Monkeh Those pins are a pain to fix.
01:17 Monkeh Almost as painful as applying layers of tape to the contacts on the CPU.
01:19 tlockley pins are fine
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01:19 lwq1996 FUCK YEAH
01:19 lwq1996 I GOT IT TO WORK
01:19 tlockley oh?
01:20 lwq1996 yeah...had to go all ninja on a virus
01:20 tlockley same one from yesterday?
01:20 lwq1996 2days of work on this thing
01:20 lwq1996 yes
01:21 lwq1996 i mean....wow....virus scan and boot log scan to a long freaking time
01:21 Ponko LEEEEEE
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01:22 Toastdude Looks like someone likes to yell....
01:22 Toastdude And advertise
01:22 Ponko yep
01:22 tlockley Sgt_Lemming would it be detrimental to try and clean the cpu contacts?
01:22 lwq1996 virus scan handled 5 viruses....boot time scan found 89
01:23 Sgt_Lemming tlockley, shouldn't hurt it in the slightest
01:23 Monkeh tlockley: A little IPA isn't going to break anything.
01:23 Sgt_Lemming do it with paper towel and some ISO
01:23 Sgt_Lemming http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Virginia_tech_xserve_cluster.jpg <--- drool
01:23 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Just think, you could have twice as many if you don't mind them not being made of aluminium!
01:23 tlockley IIRC those are the g4/g5 cluster versions
01:24 Ponko lwq1996 *grins*
01:24 Sgt_Lemming date of the pic would suggest intel version
01:25 tlockley looking at the wiki page there was never an intel cluster listed
01:25 lwq1996 im happy...
01:25 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: http://www.arc.vt.edu/arc/SystemX/
01:25 lwq1996 so happy
01:26 Ponko how?
01:26 Sgt_Lemming ah ok
01:26 tlockley yah but still smokin fast
01:27 tlockley hah runs 10.3.9
01:27 lwq1996 im happy because my computer is alot faster now
01:28 Monkeh tlockley: As a cluster, sure, per node, pansy machines. :)
01:28 lwq1996 89 viruses the boot-time scan found
01:28 tlockley daul 2.8Ghz G5s are by no means pansy
01:28 Monkeh tlockley: Compared to my quad 3GHz Core 2s they are, and these are old, old CPUs.
01:29 Ponko lwq1996 NSFW
01:29 lwq1996 ok
01:29 Monkeh tlockley: Those G5s were nice in their day, that was 2005. :)
01:30 tlockley and they are still nice. just ask TGG they are running a g5 xserve as one of their media dump/store boxes
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01:31 Aaron_B is the radio station working for anyone else?
01:31 Monkeh tlockley: Stressful job.
01:31 tlockley but I am almost at the point of burning this intel one to the ground or atleast building a gheto fan rig to replace the noisy one
01:31 Monkeh Aaron_B: Yes
01:33 Sgt_Lemming tlockley, find a gutted server chassis, i.e. with mobo and psu's only
01:33 Sgt_Lemming transfer parts into it
01:33 Aaron_B hmm... when i start it in WMP12 (asx version), it plays the streaming software intro thing and cuts out before the end, and then i don't get anything else
01:33 Sgt_Lemming double win, working server AND you don't have to fuck around to use something other than mac OS X server :-P
01:34 tlockley using another os is just as easy as installing refit on the xserve
01:34 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: This of course raises the question, who would want to use OS X Server?
01:35 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, apple fetishists
01:35 tlockley FYI OS X Server up untill Lion is just a fancy gui over very common linux/bsd tools
01:35 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Other than them.
01:35 tlockley DNS -> BIND, Web -> Apache, MySQL
01:35 Monkeh tlockley: Fancy, proprietary GUI over out of date, inflexibly compiled tools. ;)
01:35 Sgt_Lemming tlockley, and in Lion it's just common linux/bsd tools rolled into one app with a fancy gui
01:36 tlockley yah though the new lion gui is total shit
01:36 tlockley actually lion in general is shit
01:36 Monkeh tlockley: Anything OS X is. Where's my insert key. I use it.
01:36 tlockley it on the keyboard, unless you use a laptop
01:37 tlockley also OS X had its merrits untill lion
01:37 Monkeh Last I checked it was a 'help' key and didn't do what you expect it to do in normal applications.
01:37 tlockley well no one said you had to use mac
01:38 Monkeh Apple tried to. ;)
01:38 tlockley i do because its free
01:38 Monkeh Oh, hey, the hardware is nice, especially if you're not paying retail for it.
01:38 tlockley and at on time they hardware was good
01:38 tlockley snit i cant type
01:38 tlockley Fuuuuuuuuuu!
01:39 dbshortwave rage.jpg
01:39 tlockley thanks db
01:39 Monkeh I've got a couple of Mac Minis (G4 and C2D) and a Powermac G5 myself. Don't use the G5, their chipset sucks too much.
01:39 dbshortwave you are welcome
01:40 Sgt_Lemming only mac I really wanna own is a g4 cube
01:40 * Sgt_Lemming jisms
01:40 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: They were amazing
01:40 Sgt_Lemming yeah
01:40 tlockley same here
01:40 Sgt_Lemming I have designs for a computer case about similar size
01:40 Monkeh I also kinda liked the G4 iMacs, the round base and arm ones
01:40 Aaron_B hmm... winamp (pls version) works fine.  actually that one sounds better than the WMP (asx) version
01:41 tlockley those were such a bitch to repair
01:41 tlockley and they took laptop ram :P
01:41 Monkeh tlockley: Nothing wrong with that.
01:42 * Monkeh points at Mac Mini
01:42 tlockley meh, spent too much time taking them apart to replace the inner slot of ram
01:42 Monkeh Aaron_B: Shame about the music. :)
01:44 * Monkeh stabs OpenWRT
01:45 Sgt_Lemming http://imagestore.ugbox.net/aview/Tesseracti_4e6f8d5e056141b4a97 <--- mini-itx based pc designed to be as small as a g4 cube
01:46 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Neat
01:46 Monkeh Two fans, though?
01:46 Sgt_Lemming 2nd fan is to cool the 3 hdds :-P
01:46 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: So much for quiet. :)
01:46 Aaron_B if they're quiet, it'd work
01:46 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, it's called using slow fans
01:47 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yeah, but the HDDs will ruin it nicely unless they're 2.5"
01:47 Sgt_Lemming 2 slow fans > 1 fast fan
01:47 Monkeh In which case a single slow 140mm is a better idea.
01:47 Sgt_Lemming that was designed in the days before 140mm fans
01:47 Sgt_Lemming 2006
01:47 Sgt_Lemming also, nowdays I'd likely just put a 180 or 200mm fan on it
01:48 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: True, rip one off an FT02
01:48 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, hdd's are soft mounted inside the case, 3 3.5" drives
01:48 Sgt_Lemming you can buy em seperately Monkeh
01:48 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Sure they're the same fan?
01:49 Sgt_Lemming also my current mini-itx case has one in it
01:49 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I'd hear 3.5" drives on a desk too easily
01:49 Monkeh Depends on your hearing I guess
01:49 Sgt_Lemming again, soft mounted
01:49 Sgt_Lemming it's not the drives themselves you can hear normally, but the vibration induced by them in the case
01:50 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Without a lot of case material, I'll still hear the motor.
01:50 Monkeh 5400RPMs aren't so bad though
01:50 Sgt_Lemming 10mm acrylic panels Monkeh
01:50 Sgt_Lemming http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&amp;cPath=9_601&amp;products_id=15257 <--- silverstone 180mm fans
01:51 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Hmm, I'd like to hear one of these in person if you ever make it. ;)
01:51 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yeah, but are they the same ones the FT02 uses?
01:51 Sgt_Lemming yes
01:51 Sgt_Lemming my case is a silverstone one
01:54 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Seems they're not. The RV/FT02 fans are 180x25mm, 700/1000RPM. Those are 180x32mm, 700/1200RPM.
01:55 Ponko OMG GRRRRR
01:55 Ponko sorry peeps a little annoyed atm
01:57 sndwrx Sweet.  I just picked up a Toughbook.
01:57 Monkeh sndwrx: Oooh.
01:57 Sgt_Lemming nj sndwrx
01:58 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, where did you get the height of the fans for the ft02 from?
01:58 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: SPCR review.
01:58 Sgt_Lemming looking on silverstones own site it's not mentioned, but all the other specs are identical
01:58 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: They may be incorrect, but the speed difference alone could indicate a different motor.
01:59 Sgt_Lemming the specs on the page I linked, and on silverstones page are a i-fucking-dentical
01:59 Sgt_Lemming same speed, same noise, same dimensions
01:59 Sgt_Lemming but height is not specified
01:59 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: http://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=242&amp;area=en Explicitly states 700/1000
02:00 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: http://silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=258&amp;area=en Explicitly states 700/1200.
02:00 Sgt_Lemming err ok, misreading it
02:00 Sgt_Lemming my bad
02:00 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: With higher noise level.
02:00 Monkeh Still, could be equally quiet on the low setting
02:00 Monkeh If I had anywhere to bolt one I'd give it a try
02:01 Monkeh I rather want an FT02
02:01 Sgt_Lemming well if it's the same fan as in my case (Silverstone SG07) it's DAMNED quiet
02:01 Sgt_Lemming eh, I like my mini pc's
02:01 Sgt_Lemming file server and main desktop machine are both ITX based
02:01 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: My main desktops need multiple drives, high end GPUs, discrete soundcards, etc. :)
02:01 Monkeh I find that disagrees with ITX somewhat
02:01 Monkeh I'm also a quadaholic.
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02:02 Ponko Batty
02:02 Sgt_Lemming my main desktop is a Core i5-760, Geforce GTX570, 16GB RAM and 2 x 320GB 7200RPM drives
02:02 Bat-Mobile howdy ponko
02:02 Sgt_Lemming it's plenty fast
02:02 Bat-Mobile .tfw kbtl
02:02 BotSteve IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/tfw.py", line 32, in tfw)
02:02 Bat-Mobile ):
02:03 Toastdude Bat-Mobile!
02:03 Bat-Mobile .tfwc
02:03 BotSteve 3°C?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND WET IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'I'm not sure how you can stand it'
02:03 Bat-Mobile .tfwc 60652
02:03 BotSteve 4°C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Chicago, IL!  'Keep track of your local old people.'
02:03 Ponko .tfwc 54304
02:03 BotSteve 2°C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Green Bay, WI!  'It's a tit-bit nipplie.'
02:03 Bat-Mobile .tfw
02:03 BotSteve 39°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND WET IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'My nipples could cut glass'
02:03 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc brisbane
02:03 BotSteve 26°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Brisbane, AS!  'OPEN A FUCKING WINDOW'
02:03 Bat-Mobile how odd
02:03 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yep, now stuff a TV tuner, two soundcards, and two more HDDs in, and you have a problem.
02:03 Bat-Mobile .tfw kbtl
02:03 BotSteve IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/tfw.py", line 32, in tfw)
02:03 Bat-Mobile wonder why that happens
02:03 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, that's what the file server is for
02:03 Ponko .tfwc porlamar nueva sparta
02:03 BotSteve IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/tfw.py", line 32, in tfw)
02:04 Sgt_Lemming my main machine is made to be QUIET, having multiple drives and devices in the makes that quite hard
02:04 Ponko .tfwc porlamar
02:04 BotSteve 31°C?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Porlamar, VE!  'HOLY FUCK'
02:04 exor674 because tfw is broken, apparently
02:04 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Quiet in my main room is not an option.
02:04 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/ComputerStuff#5614561874066849634 <--- it's a bit cramped though
02:04 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Plus I need the soundcards
02:04 Sgt_Lemming eh, firewire soundcard FTW
02:05 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I equal or exceed the performance of most cards or discrete DAC and AMP units three times the price of mine. :)
02:05 Bat-Mobile dr_jkl: so it would seem
02:05 dbshortwave that be a nice small cramped PC
02:05 Sgt_Lemming dbshortwave, it's awesome for LAN's though
02:05 Sgt_Lemming which is one of the reasons I own
02:06 Sgt_Lemming own it*
02:06 * dbshortwave nods "lan partys"
02:06 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Must admit, a FT02 would be a pain for LANs.
02:06 Sgt_Lemming sooo much easier to carry around than a full tower
02:06 Ponko Bat-Mobile anyone at tgg would it be a good idea to build my own arcade cabinet
02:06 Monkeh Then again, not being within 50 miles of anywhere such an event happens is a much bigger pain.
02:06 Sgt_Lemming my previous case was an antc P183 Monkeh, the case weighs about 30lb empty....
02:06 Sgt_Lemming that SUCKED for LAN's
02:06 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I have two P182s, I know what you mean.
02:06 dbshortwave lol i would be the guy to walk in with a fat basterd Dell presision lol
02:07 Sgt_Lemming dbshortwave, I used to have a stuffed to the gills Yeong Yang cube case
02:07 Sgt_Lemming basically take two full towers, weld them together, and that's the cube
02:07 dbshortwave good lord
02:07 Sgt_Lemming it did have 19 drive bays though :-P
02:07 dbshortwave LOL thats one way to do it
02:08 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I think Lian Li make something like that these days.
02:08 Sgt_Lemming oh I should mention I had it watercooled
02:08 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: http://www.kustompcs.co.uk/acatalog/1001.jpg
02:08 Sgt_Lemming yeah Monkeh, it's rare as all fuck though, and about $700
02:08 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Not that much more than an FT02.
02:08 Sgt_Lemming http://www.silentpcreview.com/silverstone-sg07 <--- SPCR's review of my case, they lurved it
02:09 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yeah, neat little cases.
02:09 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I have a hard requirement for 3 expansions slots unfortunately. :)
02:09 Sgt_Lemming heh
02:10 Monkeh I will go nowhere without my Essence ST and HD380s.
02:11 Ponko ah lovely glass of 97 Chardonnay
02:13 Ponko if it was a 2011 Jager with Monster Kahos i'd be happier
02:14 Sgt_Lemming crap, starting to run out of space on my movies drive, right when HDD's are really f'ing expensive as well
02:14 * Sgt_Lemming hopes the prices dropped as fast as they climbed
02:14 Bat-Mobile Wait, they're expensive again?
02:15 Sgt_Lemming yes
02:15 Sgt_Lemming 2TB drives are $199 locally
02:15 Ponko always the way
02:15 Sgt_Lemming they were $80 a few months back
02:15 lwq1996 .wiki brain pudding
02:15 BotSteve "White pudding or oatmeal pudding is a meat dish popular in Scotland, Ireland,[1]| Northumberland, Nova Scotia, and Newfoundland." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_pudding
02:15 Bat-Mobile Oh that blows
02:15 Sgt_Lemming major MAJOR floods in thailand
02:15 lwq1996 damn you botsteve
02:15 lwq1996 my mom metioned something about brain pudding
02:16 Ponko you have TONS of space and they're cheap then you have next to NO space and they're more expensive than a bottle of champagne
02:16 * Sgt_Lemming does a Hannibal Brain Pudding on lwq1996
02:16 masterofmonks Brain salad surgery?
02:16 Sgt_Lemming Ponko, I bought 4 2TB drives for I think $92 each at the time
02:16 Ponko wow lol
02:17 Ponko cheap
02:17 Sgt_Lemming that was in iirc january
02:17 Ponko the most expensive champers is about £250 maybe more
02:18 Sgt_Lemming try $25'000
02:18 Sgt_Lemming my father worked on a wine show for television in the late 80's
02:19 Sgt_Lemming they had a guy bring on a bottle of champagne that was $3000 a glass!
02:19 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: Choose a number between one and two.
02:19 Sgt_Lemming ...
02:19 Ponko lol i meant one's you can buy in the supermarket
02:19 Ponko yeah £25000
02:20 Ponko for the premium stuff
02:20 Bat-Mobile Ooh ooh, pick 1.41421!
02:20 masterofmonks Needs to be a whole number.
02:20 * Sgt_Lemming picks 0.25*tau
02:20 masterofmonks And you aren't allowed to vote Bat-Mobile
02:21 Sgt_Lemming masterofmonks, it can't be between 1 and 2 if it's a whole number :-P
02:21 Bat-Mobile Racism, all up in this channel.
02:21 Ponko sgt_lemming the ones with the best 3 blends of wine is around 30K it's all about the year
02:21 Ponko and the rainfall for that year
02:21 masterofmonks Betwen up and down? Left or right?
02:21 masterofmonks Spatula or frying pan?
02:21 Sgt_Lemming ...?
02:22 masterofmonks It's a binary choice.
02:22 astro73|mal frying pan hurts more when it connects
02:22 masterofmonks Depends on how you use the spatula.
02:23 Monkeh masterofmonks: Familiar with spatula torture are we?
02:23 Bat-Mobile Get anything moving fast enough and it'll hurt
02:24 masterofmonks I am the Spatula Monger.
02:24 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: My air rifle and I can attest to that.
02:24 Ponko bloody hell i miss being a bar tender
02:24 masterofmonks Monkeh: You'll put your eye out.
02:24 Ponko hmmm
02:24 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, my air "rifle" has a 30mm barrel :-P
02:25 Monkeh masterofmonks: I wear shooting glasses.
02:25 Sgt_Lemming we've put steel rods through a pc with it
02:25 Monkeh masterofmonks: I am not daft enough to have my zinc pellets come back at exposed eyeballs..
02:25 masterofmonks What is it with this channel and nobody getting pop culture references.
02:25 masterofmonks .yt you'll put your eye out
02:25 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppOXpyhM2wA
02:25 Sgt_Lemming masterofmonks, we're not media whores?
02:25 Bat-Mobile Monkeh: you have an air rifle?
02:25 Bat-Mobile What kind?
02:26 Monkeh masterofmonks: Pop culture is boring?
02:26 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: An old Gamo.
02:26 Monkeh Nothing fancy but it shoots straight as long as it's not cold.
02:27 masterofmonks Monkeh: this is geek pop culture.
02:27 Bat-Mobile I spent a long while contemplating buying an air rifle - never did (bought a Kindle instead and have never regretted it) but I think it would be cool to have one
02:28 Bat-Mobile Where do you shoot?  Backyard?
02:28 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Yep.
02:28 Sgt_Lemming Bat-Mobile, do what we did
02:28 Sgt_Lemming build an air cannon instead
02:28 Sgt_Lemming much more fun :-P
02:28 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: I have a Kindle too. ;)
02:28 Bat-Mobile showoff....
02:28 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: do you use PVC?
02:28 Monkeh I didn't have to buy the rifle though, so..
02:28 Sgt_Lemming masterofmonks, pressure rated PVC yes
02:28 Sgt_Lemming and it's kept out of the sun
02:28 Sgt_Lemming and looked after
02:28 masterofmonks Air pressure rated?
02:28 Sgt_Lemming yes
02:29 Sgt_Lemming rated to 300PSI
02:29 Sgt_Lemming it's PVC shop air line
02:29 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Air rifles are fun and relatively safe. Also inexpensive.
02:29 Bat-Mobile ::nod::
02:29 Bat-Mobile They're about the only thing cheaper to shoot than 22LR, as far as I can tell
02:30 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: I think some of the .177s are cheaper, depends where you are though.
02:30 Ponko i have a H&K MP5 air gun :P
02:30 Monkeh I'm not exactly current on US ammunition prices.
02:30 Sgt_Lemming Ponko, tokyo marui?
02:30 Ponko yeah :P
02:30 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: The important thing to remember with an air rifle is: Don't take it apart unless you know what you're doing.
02:30 Sgt_Lemming I used to have a couple of them
02:30 Sgt_Lemming problem is getting them up here
02:31 Bat-Mobile Why?
02:31 Sgt_Lemming because they are ever so slightly illegal here now
02:31 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Big spring, always compressed.
02:31 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Seen them take chunks out of block walls.
02:31 Ponko i was trying to get an actual H&K MP5 i only need a license
02:31 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Strobes, Camera Mounts, Bins, Demolition, and cleaning.mp4 http://youtu.be/sE7MdCXLMb0
02:31 Sgt_Lemming Ponko, had a Glock 19 CO² gun, and an AEG FNP90
02:32 Sgt_Lemming the glock was IMPRESSIVE
02:32 Ponko i had a go with a G18C i
02:32 Ponko think it was a 18C
02:32 Bat-Mobile ahhh
02:32 Bat-Mobile I gotcha Monkeh
02:33 Bat-Mobile good call
02:33 Sgt_Lemming the P90 was impressive, supposed to be exact same weight etc
02:33 Sgt_Lemming looked damn real and was SOLIDLY built
02:33 Sgt_Lemming loved it
02:33 Sgt_Lemming used to be lots of fun, especially with 6mm paint rounds in it
02:34 masterofmonks Wait wait, wait..
02:34 masterofmonks http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/sam-yang-dragon-claw-dual-tank-50-cal-air-rifle.aspx?a=889831
02:34 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Ever seen a garage door spring go?
02:34 Ponko ok room is spinning
02:34 masterofmonks You can buy .50 cal air rifles now?
02:34 Sgt_Lemming I made the mistake of putting paint rounds in the CO² gun once, it was bad....
02:35 Bat-Mobile Welcome to America!  Even our toy guns are .50BMG!
02:35 Ponko lol
02:36 masterofmonks Bat-Mobile: http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/crosman-benjamin-marauder-air-rifle.aspx?a=642143
02:36 Ponko Bat-Mobile what about the....
02:36 Ponko UZI 9MM
02:37 Monkeh masterofmonks: Ahh, compressed air is boring.
02:37 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/Cannon <--- one of my old ones
02:37 Sgt_Lemming 7 foot barrel on a combustion cannon
02:37 Monkeh masterofmonks: Much more interesting when it recoils in two directions before the pellet leaves the barrel.
02:37 Sgt_Lemming that thing was POWERFUL
02:37 Bat-Mobile woha
02:37 Bat-Mobile 10 shot, bolt action air rifle?
02:38 Bat-Mobile coooooool
02:38 Bat-Mobile Five hundred bucks
02:38 Bat-Mobile Bummer
02:39 Bat-Mobile But that doesn't make it any less cool
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02:39 Ponko oh ffs
02:39 Sgt_Lemming Bat-Mobile, seen the rifle I want?
02:40 Bat-Mobile Nope!  Link it
02:40 Ponko blimey this Chardonnay is strong
02:40 Sgt_Lemming http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/AMP_DSR-1_Koalorka.jpg
02:40 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSR-Precision_GmbH_DSR-1 <--- details
02:41 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Air Arms make really nice rifles if you don't mind automatic safeties.
02:41 masterofmonks Saw this one the other day. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nji73gcn6Y
02:41 Bat-Mobile "automatic safety"?
02:41 Bat-Mobile I'm not even familiar with what that is
02:41 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Engaged by cocking the rifle.
02:41 Sgt_Lemming that's not a bad thing
02:41 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: In the case of the Air Arms rifles, cannot be re-engaged without cocking the rifle again.
02:42 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: It is when you can't put it back on!
02:42 Bat-Mobile Sgt_Lemming: my mistake
02:42 Sgt_Lemming spose
02:42 Bat-Mobile I thought you were talking about air rifles
02:42 Bat-Mobile I was confused
02:42 Bat-Mobile (:
02:42 Sgt_Lemming heh
02:42 Bat-Mobile So...when you cock it, the safety goes on...
02:42 Bat-Mobile And when you want it on again, you have to recock it again..
02:43 Bat-Mobile ...i guess I can see how that might be considered a safety, but it seems very silly to me
02:43 Bat-Mobile Then again, you only get one shot, and then you have to recock, don't you?
02:43 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Yes.
02:43 Bat-Mobile So basically it's like a safety after every shot?
02:43 Bat-Mobile That's not as bad, I guess.
02:44 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: The problem is, if you take it off and don't shoot, you can't put it back on without taking the rifle off the target.
02:44 Ponko OMG I'VE JUST SEEN A BLIND GUY DRIFT LIKE A FREAKING PRO
02:44 Monkeh I object to my safety being off without a target on the other end of the barrel. Strongly.
02:44 Sgt_Lemming lol, boden's been rocking the steve jobs look :-P
02:45 Ponko polo neck sweaters?
02:45 Sgt_Lemming he's skinny enough already, putting a turtle neck on just makes it worse
02:45 Ponko lol
02:45 Monkeh That's a lot of bins.
02:46 Monkeh Sex bolt on my desk? There are sex bolts IN my desk!
02:46 Sgt_Lemming lol
02:46 Ponko lol
02:47 Bat-Mobile ah
02:47 Bat-Mobile I gotcha
02:47 Bat-Mobile how reliable is the rifle, Monkeh?
02:47 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Air Arms?
02:47 Bat-Mobile yes
02:47 Monkeh Extremely.
02:47 Monkeh They're very good rifles
02:47 KB3NZQ egrsteve_ are you arround
02:47 Bat-Mobile Because when I shoot, I have no problem being off safety, as long as my finger is out of the trigger guard.
02:48 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Hence the price: http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Air_Arms_TX200_MkIII/174
02:48 Bat-Mobile If the rifle is reliable enough not to fire on it's own, I don't know if I would have a problem with it
02:48 Monkeh Oh, they don't go off by themselves unless you fiddle with them
02:48 Monkeh Safeties on springers only block the trigger pull anyway
02:48 Bat-Mobile ah
02:49 Bat-Mobile yeah, I have a lot to learn, then
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02:50 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: I'd say most air rifle shooters don't know that. Most of them haven't reassembled their trigger, either.
02:50 Bat-Mobile But I don't think I would have a problem with being off target and off safety.
02:50 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: I'm strict. ;)
02:50 Sgt_Lemming as far as I'm concerned, the only time the rifle should be loaded, let alone off safety, is when you are ready to fire
02:51 Ponko woah time for sleep
02:51 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: And if you have to stop before firing, you'd best be able to put that safety on without moving the rifle..
02:51 Monkeh that's my view anyway
02:51 * Sgt_Lemming nods
02:52 Bat-Mobile Monkeh: I respect that - I have no problem with people who have higher standards than me.
02:52 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: I have no trouble recommending the rifle.
02:52 tlockley well i think I am going to gut the xserve and make a new 4u size machine
02:53 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: I just won't personally purchase one.
02:53 Monkeh Wouldn't turn down the gift though!
02:53 KB3NZQ Bat-Mobile i have an idea for your bot
02:53 Sgt_Lemming as soon as you are off target, and I mean your concentration is off target not the gun, your finger should be off the trigger, and if practical the safety should go on
02:55 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: This is mine: http://www.rpgfirearms.com.au/HI%20RES/GAMO%20CF-16.jpg
02:55 Monkeh I've got a photo around somewhere but I cba finding it
02:55 Bat-Mobile KB3NZQ: lay it on me!  I love ideas!
02:55 eadthem man there is a 3 second delay on voice on the youtube
02:55 Sgt_Lemming eadthem, not for me
02:55 Bat-Mobile Sgt_Lemming: I agree with finger 100%
02:56 KB3NZQ ok have it check hostmasks for the mask of the shop to then give maby +v  or add a tag to the nick to tell us if he is at the lab
02:57 Bat-Mobile +v can be done.  tagging the nick is impossible
02:57 Sgt_Lemming KB3NZQ, has anyone applied to register this channel with freenode services?
02:57 Ponko ok i'm gonna build me a arcade cabinet
02:57 KB3NZQ ie if you pull a whois on tgg|ajprog or tgg|yNos  and the mask is the same
02:57 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: It is registered. ChanServ is here.
02:58 Sgt_Lemming because as part of that you can apply masks on a per host basis
02:58 astro73|mal up until the lab gets a new IP address?
02:58 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: For just over two years, apparently.
02:58 Sgt_Lemming err ok
02:59 KB3NZQ i'll be right back mother nature is calling
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03:00 Ponko MK 1, 2, Smash TV and probably 50 more games
03:00 sndwrx I'm hacking at this Toughbook already...
03:00 lwq_laptop hi
03:00 lwq1996 hi
03:00 Sgt_Lemming sndwrx. which model?
03:00 sndwrx Need a wifi wire.  By any chance does anyone (in the Grand Rapids area) have a u.fl to rp-sma cable?
03:00 lwq_laptop i love two computer
03:00 lwq_laptop computers
03:00 sndwrx approx 24"
03:01 sndwrx Sgt_Lemming: It's an older model, CF-28
03:01 KB3NZQ ok back
03:01 sndwrx wb KB3NZQ
03:01 KB3NZQ thanks
03:01 Monkeh sndwrx: Neat.
03:02 sndwrx Sgt_Lemming: Someone else did some funky stuff with the wireless antenna and I'm replacing their wonky wiring.
03:02 Sgt_Lemming kk
03:02 sndwrx This one didn't have the CPDP antenna installed in the lid, an SMA bulkhead fits just perfectly.
03:03 sndwrx Also it's missing the ethernet card.  Someone replaced it with a wireless card.
03:03 KB3NZQ i have a antenna that came out of an old dlink router it has the small end that snapps on the pcb and then goes to rp-sma
03:03 sndwrx Apparently leaving ethernet in place and replacing the 802.11b wireless adapter wasn't good enough.  :P
03:04 SparkyProjects http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15637867 <-- Smallest electric car
03:04 SparkyProjects They just need a driver :P
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03:04 wannabe1987 hi
03:04 sndwrx KB3NZQ: I've robbed one from a Linksys WRT-54G3G (I don't anticipate using a PCMCIA data card again anytime soon), but the wire is only about an inch and a half long.
03:04 wannabe1987 guess who has wifi at home now :D
03:04 sndwrx KB3NZQ: How long is your cable?
03:04 wannabe1987 THIS GIRL
03:05 sndwrx hey wannabe1987
03:05 sndwrx I was at MCC again today.
03:05 Bat-Mobile hi kelly!
03:05 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
03:05 sndwrx Took a quick walk through the commons.
03:05 wannabe1987 hmmmm
03:05 astro73|mal wannabe1987, you have a home?
03:05 wannabe1987 i might've saw you
03:05 wannabe1987 not really astro73|mal
03:05 sndwrx It's changed quite a bit in the more than 20 years since I was there.  :P
03:05 astro73|mal just checking
03:05 wannabe1987 i was sitting in the commons except from 2-3, then i was in the pool
03:05 sndwrx aha
03:05 sndwrx I was there around 1:30
03:06 wannabe1987 nice
03:06 KB3NZQ sndwrx 2x the linght of ATM card
03:06 sndwrx Did you see a guy wearing a suit around that time?  :P
03:06 sndwrx KB3NZQ: ah, okay
03:06 wannabe1987 i'm part of the gamers club, we sit against the glass on the "couches" and the tables and shit in the commons
03:06 KB3NZQ it has an attenna too
03:06 wannabe1987 possibly, i don't remember :P
03:06 KB3NZQ i'm in western PA
03:06 sndwrx Against the glass that used to be arcade games.
03:06 wannabe1987 next time, stop by the big group of people, ask for wannabe :P
03:07 wannabe1987 in the pit?
03:07 sndwrx And the floor of the commons used to be a pit.
03:07 sndwrx IT was actually called the pit instaed of the commons.
03:07 wannabe1987 i've heard about that
03:07 wannabe1987 yeah
03:07 wannabe1987 i hear they tried to pretty it up
03:07 sndwrx My mom used to work at the college when I was young, so I rode the bus to and from school to the college.
03:07 wannabe1987 ahhh
03:07 sndwrx eh, it looks dark and small now.
03:08 sndwrx It was a lot brighter and nicer with the pit.
03:08 wannabe1987 it was also dark outside today, and they never have all the lights on :P
03:08 dr_jkl .
03:08 BotSteve dr_jkl: I have the following messages for you:
03:08 BotSteve At 09 Nov 15:31Z, lwq1996-school asked me to tell dr_jkl is there any way that you can make the website use less memory because it takes long to load on old computers
03:08 sndwrx But then again I was like six, seven and eight.  Maybe nine.
03:08 wannabe1987 yeah
03:08 dr_jkl BotSteve: tell lwq_laptop you should be focusing on school at school and not the website :)
03:08 BotSteve dr_jkl: I'll pass that on when lwq_laptop is around.
03:09 sndwrx Alright I have this thing in 12 pieces.
03:09 sndwrx IT's about time to put it back together.
03:09 dr_jkl sndwrx: 'alo
03:11 astro73|mal Bat-Mobile, you still here?
03:11 Bat-Mobile greetz astro73|mal
03:11 wannabe1987 hi Bat-Mobile
03:12 astro73|mal Bat-Mobile, Just letting you know, i'm testing a new data store on astro73-bot for robustness and such. If you feel bored, I would appreciate it getting beat up on.
03:12 sndwrx hey dr_jkl
03:12 Bat-Mobile oh, cool
03:12 Bat-Mobile ok
03:12 Bat-Mobile is it in -bots ?
03:13 astro73|mal yeah
03:13 astro73|mal (obviously, the details are on github)
03:14 Bat-Mobile righto
03:14 KB3NZQ cprossu you here
03:15 KB3NZQ https://www.facebook.com/cory.grzyb
03:15 KB3NZQ who wants to hack it ^^ drop the s off the http
03:15 KB3NZQ that is cory from tgg
03:16 Hackbat you broke it
03:17 KB3NZQ i did not brake anything
03:17 wannabe1987 breathing + talking doesn't work well fyi
03:18 wannabe1987 my friend can't find her power cord so i'm googling a photo and posting it to her status update
03:18 wannabe1987 my cord works, but won't charge it....:P too small of a battery pack :P
03:19 Toastdude wannabe!
03:19 wannabe1987 http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsu9gwtB3Z1qe3frjo1_500.jpg
03:19 wannabe1987 PIE
03:19 KawaiiJess joined #thegeekgroup
03:19 wannabe1987 pi
03:19 wannabe1987 SAME THING
03:19 Bat-Mobile hi KawaiiJess
03:19 wannabe1987 omg its kates friend!  hi jess!
03:19 Toastdude Haha, is it?
03:19 wannabe1987 you two keep missing each other on here....
03:20 Toastdude :P
03:20 wannabe1987 yes
03:20 Toastdude BatSteve!
03:20 wannabe1987 ...
03:20 BatSteve yo
03:20 Bat-Mobile there
03:20 wannabe1987 bats!
03:20 KawaiiJess Hi Bat-Mobile, wannabe1987
03:20 Bat-Mobile ignore me, just exercising my schizophrenic side for a moment
03:21 Toastdude Lol
03:21 Toastdude Hi KawaiiJess
03:21 KawaiiJess Man, everyone is awful excited to see me
03:21 KawaiiJess Sounds like Kate's been telling horror stories
03:22 Bat-Mobile Nah, it's because you're new.
03:22 KawaiiJess {Playing} "Pumped Up Kicks" - Artist: Foster The People - Album: Torches
03:22 KawaiiJess I love this song!
03:22 astro73|alice no horror stories. Just stories of ghosts, werewolves, and vampires
03:22 Bat-Mobile When you get more established, you'll join and people will just grunt hello at you
03:22 * KawaiiJess gasms
03:22 Toastdude Lol, true Bats..
03:23 Toastdude But you're an exception, Bats
03:23 KawaiiJess At least here people grunt at you
03:23 KawaiiJess On the servers I've been idling around for like 6 years, people don't even bother saying hello anymore
03:24 * dr_jkl yawns and continues packing her desk
03:24 dr_jkl almost time to move...
03:24 Bat-Mobile I haven't figured out why I'm an exception.
03:24 Bat-Mobile ithink it's because you all want to follow me down an alley and beat me up for my pocket money
03:27 Ponko ok peeps what do i need to build an Arcade Machine WITHOUT MAME
03:28 Toastdude No, it's because people like you and you're awesome, Bat-Mobile
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03:29 lwq1996 someones causing trouble at my house
03:29 lwq1996 fucking kids knocking on the shed door then run away
03:29 lwq1996 me, my brohter, and my dad chased after them
03:30 wannabe1987 ...
03:30 wannabe1987 there is a tell for lwq1996_laptop
03:30 lwq1996 oh
03:30 lwq1996 sorry
03:30 lwq1996 ill get it soon
03:30 wannabe1987 its ok.  just letting you know
03:30 lwq1996 im wating for them to come back through
03:31 Ponko lol
03:31 Ponko lee want me to fly over and ninja them
03:32 lwq1996 ok...if you can find them
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03:32 Toastdude Hi slaudone
03:32 astro73|alice wow, did someone say there was a party in here?
03:33 Ponko nop
03:34 eadthem just a thought for someone at the lab    that old steam heating pipe    thats not say  asbestos insulated is it?
03:34 astro73|alice eadthem: Last I knew, it was, but it's stable if not disturbed, and they want to seal it up to be extra sure
03:36 Monkeh|Lap joined #thegeekgroup
03:37 eadthem thought id ask before someone removed it  as the captans blog said they thougth they wer going to tomarow
03:37 Bat-Mobile hi slaudone
03:38 astro73|alice maybe that's not the asbestos part, then
03:41 Bat-Mobile ):
03:43 dbshortwave o.o
03:44 astro73|alice nice eyes
03:46 lwq1996 mes wants tos kills
03:46 dbshortwave yeah i feel like a zombie
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03:49 * wannabe1987 hugs zombie dbshortwave
03:50 * dbshortwave groans and looses an arm
03:50 dbshortwave damn
03:50 dbshortwave hehe
03:50 lwq1996 ny dads like he will hook 110 to the shed :D
03:50 egrsteve_ hello
03:50 dbshortwave Hi Wannabe1987
03:50 wannabe1987 hi
03:51 Ponko hmm
03:51 wannabe1987 Ponko: http://imgur.com/gallery/UdcPL
03:51 Monkeh|Lap lwq1996: Hey, at least it's 110 and not something useful or all that dangerous.. ;)
03:51 lwq1996 lol ik
03:52 lwq1996 but usa uses 110
03:52 * wannabe1987 has to be offline completely in a bit, (at 11) so i can start the defrag of the compooper overnight
03:52 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Use Mydefrag, do it automatically.
03:52 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Anyway, you don't have to be totally offline.
03:52 Ponko wannabe1987 i already know this
03:53 wannabe1987 i'm using defraggler
03:53 wannabe1987 and i know, but it works better when nothing else is running
03:53 Monkeh|Lap Ponko: It's okay, you can admit it. We have problems keeping track of your obscene number of states.
03:53 Ponko lol :P
03:53 Ponko but i don't have trouble
03:53 wannabe1987 besides, having wifi is bad, i'll never go to sleep now :P
03:55 Ponko ok anyone know where i can find how to build an arcade machine without MAME but using PCB JAMMA circuit boards
03:55 Sgt_Lemming err, what software are you planning to use then ponko?
03:56 Ponko i said PCB JAMMA boards lol
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03:56 BatSteve hi BotSteve
03:56 BotSteve Hi BatSteve!
03:56 Sgt_Lemming MAME is software, JAMMA boards are hardware
03:56 Sgt_Lemming you need one to make the other work
03:57 Ponko hmm idk actually
03:57 Sgt_Lemming yeah, you are gonna find it pretty difficult to do without mame
03:57 dbshortwave BotSsteve, are you drinking again?
03:57 BatSteve BotSteve: what's at this link?  http://www.cutelittlekittens.com
03:57 BotSteve Title: Kitten Pictures - Cute Little Kittens
03:57 dbshortwave damit
03:57 Sgt_Lemming unless you are just planning to use it with zsnes or something
03:57 dbshortwave BotSteve, are you drinking again?
03:57 wannabe1987 ""In C++, you're not allowed to manipulate peoples' private parts.""
03:57 lwq1996 my dad told me hes getting his shot gun out and taking the bb's out of some shells....
03:57 BotSteve no
03:58 BatSteve lwq1996: tell him to put rock salt in there instead
03:58 wannabe1987 ow
03:58 Ponko hmm well what else can you use other than mame
03:58 lwq1996 lol
03:58 BatSteve Get shot in the butt with rock salt -> hurts for weeks but doesn't kill you
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03:59 lwq1996 ik
03:59 Ponko because i'm pretty sure they didn't use mame in 1992
03:59 lwq1996 damn kids
03:59 Ponko .w MAME
03:59 BotSteve "MAME (an acronym of Multiple Arcade Machine Emulator) is an emulator application designed to recreate the hardware of arcade game systems in software on modern personal computers and other platforms." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAME
03:59 wannabe1987 Katemonster, meet KawaiiJess
03:59 Katemonster ....
03:59 Toastdude Kate!
03:59 egrsteve Person!
03:59 Ponko CSM
03:59 Katemonster ohai yall
03:59 * Katemonster bites KawaiiJess on the ear
04:00 Sgt_Lemming Ponko, MAME has been around a LONG time
04:00 Katemonster we go to school together, wanna.
04:00 Ponko yeah 1997
04:00 Ponko not 1992
04:00 Sgt_Lemming where did you get 92 from?
04:00 astro73|alice hey kate
04:00 Katemonster hi astro.
04:00 Ponko that's when MK was realeased lol
04:00 Toastdude I miss CSMonster...
04:00 Toastdude .seen CSMonster
04:00 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw csmonster 1637.59 hours ago at 2011-09-02 22:25:44 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:00:50 UTC
04:00 Sgt_Lemming what relevance does that have?
04:00 Katemonster pretty sure i already asked this but i don't remember getting an answer.  why alice?
04:01 Sgt_Lemming mame emulates some really REALLY oldschool stuff
04:01 Sgt_Lemming much older than mk
04:01 astro73|alice katemonster: It's the software.
04:01 Katemonster ah
04:01 Ponko i know it goes WAY back but i want the hardware it ORIGINALLY ran with
04:01 Katemonster at first i thought you might have a thing for military web gear.  >.>
04:01 Sgt_Lemming Ponko, as in the actual game card, or just the controls?
04:02 Ponko both
04:02 Sgt_Lemming yeah, good luck getting the game card cheaply
04:02 Ponko game card easy ebay or gremlin solutions
04:02 astro73|alice katemonster, no just for cheap web irc
04:02 BatSteve ooh!
04:02 Sgt_Lemming old game cards like that are collectors items now
04:02 Ponko about £30
04:02 Ponko i know
04:03 astro73|alice (unfortunately, tab complete is broken)
04:03 Ponko its a project i actually wanted to do for a while
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04:03 Ponko probably since i last played it in 2005 on holiday
04:04 Sgt_Lemming I'm gonna make you hate me right now, fish & chip shop <500m from my house has it, they asked me if I wanted to buy it recently :-P
04:04 Toastdude BatSteve, meet Bat-MOLLE
04:04 Toastdude :P
04:04 Cprossu lol"
04:04 Ponko wait what?
04:04 Cprossu hey Toastdude
04:04 Toastdude Hi Cprossu
04:04 Ponko a F'n'C shop is selling a Mortal Kombat machine?
04:05 Katemonster LMAO
04:05 Katemonster hi steve
04:05 * Sgt_Lemming nods
04:05 Bat-MOLLE brb
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04:05 wannabe1987 .g NCIS gibbs sorry quote
04:05 Cprossu hahahah
04:05 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.ncisfanwiki.com/page/NCIS%3A+Gibbs+Rules
04:05 Toastdude Cprossu: Some say that he's hipocritical...
04:05 Ponko O_O
04:05 Sgt_Lemming they have Raiden 2 as well which I actually want, but sooo cannoy justify
04:05 Ponko omg you bastard
04:05 Cprossu rather say he's a-political
04:05 ELBVmonster wait, no.
04:05 Sgt_Lemming http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mortal-Kombat-Jamma-PCB-Header-TESTED-WORKING-/250924883026?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3a6c49dc52 <--- bit more than 30 quid Ponko
04:05 BotSteve Title: Mortal Kombat Jamma PCB & Header ***TESTED WORKING*** | eBay
04:06 Cprossu once ze rockets goes up who knows where ze come downnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn.
04:06 Cprossu ^
04:06 wannabe1987 BotSteve!  i love you BotSteve!
04:06 BotSteve wannabe1987!
04:06 Toastdude "Once the rockets go up, who cares where they come down..."
04:06 Ponko yeah thats Aussie not UK
04:06 Cprossu that's not my department!
04:06 Toastdude Meh bro, BotSteve!
04:06 BatSteve wannabe1987: don't thank me, thank astro73|alice
04:06 Sgt_Lemming australian dollar is worth just a wee bit more than 1/10th of a pound
04:06 BatSteve it was entirely his knowledge and skill that made that possible
04:06 wannabe1987 love you jamie!!!!
04:06 Toastdude Says Werner von Broun
04:07 Ponko damn you sgt_lemming that game as well as Ninja Gaiden (Shadow Warriors) inspired me to take up ninjutsu
04:07 Toastdude (totally butchered his name)
04:07 Sgt_Lemming .c 199AUD punds sterling
04:07 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
04:07 Sgt_Lemming .c 199AUD pounds sterling
04:07 BotSteve 320.344986 U.S. Dollars^(2)
04:07 astro73|alice wannabe, I love you too, but I think we should see other people.
04:07 Sgt_Lemming fail BotSteve, fail
04:07 wannabe1987 agreed, jamie
04:07 Sgt_Lemming .c 199AUD pounds
04:07 BotSteve 91.3300072 kg U.S. Dollars
04:07 Sgt_Lemming lol
04:07 Sgt_Lemming fucking lol
04:07 Monkeh|Lap haha.
04:08 Monkeh|Lap ~£127, fyi.
04:08 Toastdude ....you don't love me, wannabe?
04:08 Sgt_Lemming yeah
04:08 Monkeh|Lap Let's try..
04:08 Sgt_Lemming but still a lot more than the 30 quid he claimed
04:08 Monkeh|Lap .c 199AUD GBP
04:08 BotSteve 320.344986 U.S. Dollars^(2)
04:08 wannabe1987 you're my brother, so yes, but jamie (astro) made up that title thing, PLUS he's a good friend, so i do
04:08 wannabe1987 and Monkeh|Lap, who are you?
04:09 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: A guy from the internets?
04:09 Toastdude Yay! :)
04:09 wannabe1987 o.O
04:09 wannabe1987 are you new?!
04:09 PLCEmonster .log
04:09 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
04:09 Ponko i know but as i said that Aussie ebay
04:09 wannabe1987 GUYS?!  online?! never!
04:09 Monkeh|Lap To IRC, yeah.
04:09 Cprossu BotSteve: tell ajprog_laptop hahahahahahah @ captains blog
04:09 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when ajprog_laptop is around.
04:09 Monkeh|Lap Well, this channel.
04:09 wannabe1987 ah, welcome.  i'm one of the resident girls
04:09 wannabe1987 we do exist
04:09 Ponko it was either 30 or 70
04:09 Toastdude Yay! Sisters!
04:09 Toastdude :P
04:09 Monkeh|Lap I know, there's a girl in my WoT clan. Rare, but.. :)
04:09 astro73|alice it's true! I've seen them! skirt and everything
04:10 PLCEmonster occasionally the females outnumber the males on this particular channel.  >.>
04:10 wannabe1987 was i wearing a skirt?
04:10 wannabe1987 o.O
04:10 Monkeh|Lap PLCEmonster: Probably because all the males are off doing manly things.
04:10 wannabe1987 yes.  its awesome
04:10 Monkeh|Lap :)
04:10 wannabe1987 what is plce?
04:10 wannabe1987 manly things?  you mean jerking off? :P
04:10 Monkeh|Lap No, cutting digits off with a circular saw.
04:10 PLCEmonster yes, giving us time to steal their computers and move them to the kitchen.
04:10 Sgt_Lemming Ponko, you still need a PSU, buttons, monitor, etc, etc on top of that board
04:10 PLCEmonster /:o
04:11 PLCEmonster PLCE == the british version of ALICE
04:11 Sgt_Lemming Ponko, that's located in the us if you link
04:11 wannabe1987 yes PLCEmonster :D
04:11 Sgt_Lemming aussie link != aussie item
04:12 Sgt_Lemming look
04:12 BatSteve wannabe1987: manly things like hitting things with hammers
04:12 PLCEmonster .wiki Personal Load Carrying Equipment
04:12 BotSteve "Personal Load Carrying Equipment (PLCE) is the current tactical webbing system of the British Army." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Load_Carrying_Equipment
04:12 BatSteve "When all you have is a hammer, go looking for nails"
04:12 Sgt_Lemming 10 tired lemming is
04:12 Sgt_Lemming 20 got 10
04:12 wannabe1987 i can do that...
04:12 PLCEmonster .wiki Advanced Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment
04:12 BotSteve "The All-Purpose Lightweight Individual Carrying Equipment, or ALICE system, was adopted as United States Army Standard A on 17 January 1973[1]| to replace the M-1956 Load-Carrying Equipment [LCE] and M-1967 Modernized Load-Carrying Equipment [MLCE]." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-purpose_Lightweight_Individual_Carrying_Equipment
04:12 PLCEmonster ah
04:12 Sgt_Lemming sigh, compile fail
04:12 PLCEmonster i knew the A was something else.
04:12 Ponko i know this but what i'm trying to say I KNOW the board wont be cheap and idk what i need BUT i do have a vague idea
04:13 Sgt_Lemming you said the board was 30 quid before!
04:13 PLCEmonster hey, ALICE was adopted on my birthday!  i didn't know that.
04:13 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: I prefer to go looking for a bigger hammer. :)
04:13 dbshortwave just sitting here thinking .... my head is as big as Peter Griffins, i can laugh like him, but thank fucking god i dont have a chin that looks like a nut sack
04:13 Ponko i misread the price one uk ebay
04:14 Sgt_Lemming Ponko, truth be told, you are better to look for one with a knocked up cabinet
04:14 Sgt_Lemming than trying to parts scavenge to build one
04:14 Ponko what as in full cabinet
04:14 * Sgt_Lemming nods
04:14 Ponko ahh right like a scrap car and get all the part you need
04:14 Ponko that makes sense
04:14 * Sgt_Lemming nods
04:15 Ponko trouble where could i find that
04:15 Ponko that's the main thing
04:16 Ponko there IS a MK2 cabinet for sale at £440 i think
04:18 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe
04:18 lwq1996 or did she go to bed yet?
04:18 wannabe1987 not quite
04:18 lwq1996 oh
04:18 lwq1996 ok
04:18 dbshortwave shes zoning
04:18 lwq1996 lol
04:18 wannabe1987 almost....getting bedtime snack and changing :)
04:19 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh|Lap http://oi44.tinypic.com/20u7s6v.jpg <--- just for you
04:19 BotSteve NameError: global name 'phenny' is not defined (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/head.py", line 106, in gettitle)
04:19 wannabe1987 i'm in the zone, autozone?
04:19 lwq1996 :) mmm snack
04:19 BatSteve ):
04:19 lwq1996 twilight zone?
04:19 BatSteve astro73|alice:  sadday
04:19 astro73|alice crap
04:19 BatSteve http://oi44.tinypic.com/20u7s6v.jpg
04:19 BotSteve NameError: global name 'phenny' is not defined (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/head.py", line 106, in gettitle)
04:19 BatSteve http://www.ncisfanwiki.com/page/NCIS%3A+Gibbs+Rules
04:19 BatSteve now watch him crash
04:20 BatSteve http://www.google.com
04:20 BotSteve Title: Google
04:20 BatSteve huh
04:20 BatSteve nope
04:20 BatSteve good for him
04:20 wannabe1987 lol
04:20 BotSteve Title: NCIS: Gibbs Rules - NCIS
04:20 wannabe1987 YAY GIBBS :D
04:20 wannabe1987 18% defragged :D
04:20 wannabe1987 i think it will finish overnight....altho i started with 28gb free, now i have 26gb free
04:20 wannabe1987 o.O
04:21 wannabe1987 i like watching the colors go....
04:21 Ponko http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mortal-Kombat-2-Arcade-Game-VERY-NICE-/250847928086?_trksid=p3286.m7&amp;_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D2%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D4087951588140730499
04:21 BotSteve Title: Mortal Kombat 2 Arcade Game **VERY NICE** | eBay
04:21 wannabe1987 i remember defragging our old windows compooper
04:21 Ponko yeah botsteve
04:21 wannabe1987 www.yourmom.com
04:21 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: More like it.
04:21 Sgt_Lemming eh
04:21 wannabe1987 http://www.yourmom.com
04:21 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Now just get a decent brand GPU in there. ;P
04:21 Sgt_Lemming didn't take long to do
04:22 Ponko that's the one Sgt_Lemming
04:22 wannabe1987 botsteve doesn't like me
04:22 Sgt_Lemming that's just the model I had to hand Monkeh
04:22 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Yeah, I'm kidding.
04:22 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: What d'you use for that anyway?
04:22 Sgt_Lemming not saying I would use that particular one
04:22 Sgt_Lemming sketchup
04:22 Monkeh|Lap Hm, tried to learn that once. Went back to 3DS.
04:23 wannabe1987 lwq1996: temp on my compooper its 38*C.  is that good?
04:23 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, I prefer sketchups way of doingit
04:23 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: It's below 60C and not on fire. It's good. :)
04:23 Toastdude It's above room temperature, I know that much
04:23 Sgt_Lemming much more intuitive for me
04:23 wannabe1987 thanks Monkeh|Lap
04:23 wannabe1987 why are there two of you?  Monkeh and Monkeh|Lap
04:23 wannabe1987 ?
04:23 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: I learnt 3DS about ten years ago, so it comes more or less automatically.
04:23 Sgt_Lemming heh
04:24 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Haven't bothered setting this client up to use my bouncer yet.
04:24 wannabe1987 ahhhh
04:24 wannabe1987 welp, its 11:30, and i have to go sleeeeeeeeep now, up around 7:15....
04:24 Monkeh|Lap .. mostly because I haven't made my bouncer externally accessible yet.
04:25 wannabe1987 ah
04:25 Ponko sgt_lemming know anywhere that might have salvageable machines?
04:25 Toastdude Night wannabe-zz
04:25 wannabe-zz night Monkeh|Lap, Sgt_Lemming, Ponko, BotSteve, BatSteve, lwq1996, Toastdude, dbshortwave, Katemonster, and everyoneelse
04:26 BatSteve http://oi44.tinypic.com/20u7s6v.jpg
04:26 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe goodnight
04:26 Monkeh|Lap wannabe-zz: Night
04:26 BatSteve bye wannabe-zz
04:26 Katemonster night
04:26 Ponko night kelly
04:26 dbshortwave Nite Wannabe-zz
04:26 wannabe-zz cya'll tomorrow, i'll be on at shool late cuz of shadowrun
04:26 wannabe-zz everyone else is playing....
04:27 BatSteve hm
04:27 BatSteve http://oi44.tinypic.com/20u7s6v.jpg
04:27 BatSteve http://oi44.tinypic.com/20u7s6v.jpg
04:28 BatSteve .title http://oi44.tinypic.com/20u7s6v.jpg
04:28 BotSteve BatSteve: No title found
04:28 BatSteve Good.
04:28 BatSteve Works
04:28 Monkeh|Lap Until it doesn't.
04:29 BatSteve Yes, but when that happens, we burn it down and start again.
04:29 BatSteve .seen wannabe1987
04:29 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw wannabe1987 0.07 hours ago at 2011-11-10 04:25:11 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:29:33 UTC
04:29 * Monkeh|Lap fuels the Zippo
04:29 BatSteve .seen CaptainBoden
04:29 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw captainboden 1382.68 hours ago at 2011-09-13 13:48:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:29:41 UTC
04:30 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: He doesn't hang around on IRC much then.
04:32 BatSteve Monkeh|Lap: he used to be here all the time
04:32 Ponko ok laters
04:32 BatSteve I think he got bored or distracted
04:33 Ponko former i guess
04:33 Ponko cya'll later
04:34 Ponko left #thegeekgroup
04:41 Sgt_Lemming joined #thegeekgroup
04:41 Sgt_Lemming stupid freaking network >_<
04:42 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: That quality aussie wiring?
04:42 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, not sure what happened there
04:42 Sgt_Lemming lost connection to one thing, then lost connection to everything
04:42 Sgt_Lemming though it might be the dodgy linkshit switch in the lounge, but that doesn't explain losing connection to my server...
04:43 dbshortwave stab the modem
04:43 dbshortwave it makes it work better
04:43 dbshortwave lol
04:43 dbshortwave ive punched mine cracked the case and it works ok lol
04:43 Sgt_Lemming dbshortwave, the modem we have is about one of the best on the market here
04:43 Sgt_Lemming short of springing for an enterprise grade one
04:44 dbshortwave ah
04:44 Monkeh|Lap Hey, don't rag on Linksys too much.
04:44 Monkeh|Lap They made some nice stuff.
04:44 dbshortwave mine is a cheepy the ones that Verizon gives away
04:44 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, they used to make some nice stuff
04:44 Sgt_Lemming most of the crap they churn out now is exactly that CRAP
04:45 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Hey, they still make the WRT54GL.
04:45 Monkeh|Lap It's a bit behind the times I admit.
04:45 dbshortwave my old wrt is still kickin
04:45 * Monkeh|Lap has had so many go through his hands
04:45 Monkeh|Lap All working.
04:45 Sgt_Lemming the WRT is the grampa simpson of the router world
04:45 dbshortwave with big -7dB sticks on it
04:45 Monkeh|Lap Just finished tweaking one to sell to a friend.
04:45 dbshortwave lol
04:45 Monkeh|Lap He got bored with his Failhub.
04:46 Monkeh|Lap And there's not a lot of decent solutions on the market at a sane price, so he gets my old Linksys stack.
04:47 Sgt_Lemming the Billion one we are using is quite decent, and at my previous place we were using the wireless version of it, worked well
04:49 sndwrx Monkeh|Lap: "made" being the operative word.
04:49 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: As I said, they still make the WRT54GL!
04:49 sndwrx The old WRT54G and 300N were pretty nice.
04:50 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Kinda sad they stopped making the ADSL2MUE, it's actually a good bit of kit.
04:50 sndwrx I have a couple 54G, a 300N and a 54G3G
04:50 KB3NZQ i have a 54g v2
04:50 sndwrx the v2 was the fun one.
04:50 sndwrx But I also have an Asus RT-N16 and that owns.
04:50 Monkeh|Lap I've got a GL (soon off to a friend), a GS v1.1 (I think), set up a G-TM for a friend, and handled a pile of others.
04:51 Monkeh|Lap I should've bought more G-TMs while they were available, those rock.
04:51 sndwrx Which is the G-TM?
04:51 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: 8MB flash, 32MB RAM.
04:51 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: T-Mobile US variant.
04:51 KB3NZQ the flash started to go bad so i put tomato firmware on it and it is running has been 3 years now runing tomato
04:51 sndwrx aha.
04:51 sndwrx Yeah the 54G3G-TM
04:51 sndwrx gotcha.
04:51 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Actually, might be 64.
04:51 sndwrx I have the S
04:51 sndwrx 32mb iirc.
04:51 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: It's not a G3G
04:52 KB3NZQ i have a wrt54g2  v1.3 and it is a peace of shit
04:52 sndwrx It has a PCMCIA slot for T-mobile data cards?
04:52 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: No.
04:52 sndwrx ohhh.
04:52 dbshortwave have you updated the firmware?
04:52 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: It's basically a GS v3.
04:52 KB3NZQ yes no change
04:52 Sgt_Lemming ok, just checked the modem
04:52 Sgt_Lemming connection didn't drop
04:52 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Extra RAM and flash for a GSM hotspot app.
04:53 Sgt_Lemming so WTF just caused whatever happened?
04:53 dbshortwave hmm
04:53 sndwrx Oh!  It has the data card built-in.
04:53 KB3NZQ brb
04:53 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Nope, hardware is normal. It's all software.
04:53 dbshortwave ive got the old black and blue box
04:53 sndwrx Actually I'm guessing I just glanced at the first link I found, haha.
04:53 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: I had it open, it's identical to a GL except for the RAM and flash chips.
04:53 sndwrx Oh okay.  I saw "T-Mobile Hotspot" and assumed.  :P
04:53 * sndwrx nods.
04:54 sndwrx That's cool.
04:54 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: And the GS v3 is identical to the WL except for the above
04:54 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: The CFE is different but everyone just flashes the GL CFE
04:55 egrsteve night all
04:55 Toastdude Night egrsteve
04:55 sndwrx Gotcha.
04:55 sndwrx night egrsteve|away
04:56 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: WRT54G-RG, which is a new one on me, is the same thing.
04:57 sndwrx aha.  Hadn't heard of that.
04:57 sndwrx I have pretty much abandoned Linksys since I got my Asus.
04:58 Cprossu where did tlockley go?
04:58 Cprossu .seen tlockley
04:58 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw tlockley 2.09 hours ago at 2011-11-10 02:52:59 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:58:08 UTC
04:58 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: I use, of all brands, a TP-Link a lot these days.
04:58 sndwrx yeah?
04:58 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Nice Atheros chipset, no fuss, cheap as chips.
04:59 sndwrx Well I'm not complaining about 533MHz proc with 32MB flash and 128MB RAM.  :P
04:59 Monkeh|Lap And the stock firmware is surprisingly unshit.
05:00 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: That Asus take OpenWRT?
05:00 Cprossu Asus makes some decent kit
05:00 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Shame about the Engrish. :)
05:00 Monkeh|Lap <3 Xonars.
05:00 sndwrx I'd assume so, I run dd-wrt on it.
05:01 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: I grew.. displeased, with DD.
05:01 Cprossu I still use a shit ton of wrt54's flavors g v1-v7, gs 1-5, and GL of course.
05:01 Cprossu dd works generally fine. I used to be an openwrt fan
05:01 Cprossu but switched to dd to gain a few features
05:01 Monkeh|Lap 1200 entries in NVRAM, complete refusal to apply settings due to it being full, sluggish, and ancient kernel and driver put me off.
05:01 Cprossu tomato has come a long way though
05:01 sndwrx I have OpenWRT on the 54G3G-ST
05:02 sndwrx Has it?  I last used it a few years ago and wasn't too pleased.
05:02 sndwrx (Tomato, that is)
05:02 Monkeh|Lap b43 on current kernels blows the legacy stuff DD-WRT uses out of the water.
05:02 sndwrx Whatever happened with Gargoyl?
05:02 Cprossu I just appreciate that dd-wrt makes a consumer AP way more stable than it should be
05:02 Monkeh|Lap I get a better signal at 100mW with 6dBi antennas with OpenWRT than I did at 130mW with 9dBi antennas with DD.
05:03 sndwrx nice.
05:03 Cprossu sometimes making it more stable than business grade products
05:03 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: There is that. 442 days on my WRT before I pulled the plug.
05:03 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: 442 days since the last power cut.
05:03 Cprossu yeah I had one up for ~390 days before the UPS shitted out
05:04 Cprossu I mean a $5 bought-at-goodwill wrt54 is like a swiss army tool that I always carry with me
05:04 Cprossu they can be a day saver sometimes
05:05 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: That + an ADSL modem which conveniently stacks underneath = awesome.
05:05 Cprossu heck there's still some of the ones I brought in/modified still floating around the lab doing things
05:05 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yeah, I saw one on the blog the other day.
05:06 Cprossu that one is being used as a wireless bridge
05:06 Cprossu as we all know wifi cards really suck ass
05:06 Cprossu it's nice to have a portable box that just 'works' when you connect stuff to it
05:06 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Proprietary, relayd, crap WDS or proper WDS?
05:07 Cprossu no not even that
05:07 Cprossu just acting as a WIFI client
05:07 Cprossu and forwarding the dhcp server
05:07 Monkeh|Lap Has to be using one of them if it's got ethernet clients connected to it
05:07 Monkeh|Lap DD-WRT?
05:07 Cprossu yeah of course
05:07 Cprossu it acts like a normal client.
05:07 Monkeh|Lap Then it's the proprietary MAC-NAT thing.
05:07 Cprossu with dns manually programmed in
05:08 Cprossu works well.
05:08 Monkeh|Lap I've had.. issues with that in the past
05:08 Monkeh|Lap But only with really picky stuff
05:08 Monkeh|Lap Like the hilarious excuse for netcode you get in games.
05:08 Monkeh|Lap Ah, that's the term
05:08 Monkeh|Lap 'WET mode'
05:09 Cprossu it's nowhere near as bad as most WIFI cards manage
05:09 Cprossu especially usb sticks with their craptacular drivers
05:09 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Some cards are okay. I've had amazingly mixed experiences.
05:09 Cprossu realtek is hit or miss depending on the driver vendor
05:09 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I get awesome performance from my Intel card, but the microcode craps itself randomly.
05:09 Monkeh|Lap I've got Atheros cards I can rely on into the grave, and ones which just don't work right.
05:09 Cprossu the 5100agn card I have is really shitty
05:10 Monkeh|Lap The only cards I've got I know I can rely on to just work are Broadcom ones.
05:10 Monkeh|Lap Now they've got open source drivers working properly they're really, really stable cards (and APs. See my WRTs.)
05:10 Cprossu it depends on the era of broadcom
05:10 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: 4306 and 4318 for PCI.
05:10 Cprossu the older ones were shit.
05:10 Cprossu for me at least
05:10 Monkeh|Lap Both work wonderfully
05:10 Cprossu especially under windows
05:10 Monkeh|Lap The 4306 has signal issues but it has an excuse
05:11 Monkeh|Lap That being a pathetic little antenna which is set into a small cutout in a grounded metal lid.
05:11 Monkeh|Lap That one's probably got you wondering.
05:11 Cprossu PrismII was a solid chipset
05:11 Cprossu slow but completely solid
05:11 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yeah, if you want to go back a decade. :)
05:11 Monkeh|Lap Those don't really like me streaming 1080p..
05:12 Cprossu hell there's still things you can do on those cards you can't do with the newer ones
05:12 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Like laugh at regulatory limits?
05:12 Cprossu that too
05:12 Cprossu or not magically die every 2 1/2 years
05:12 Monkeh|Lap heh
05:12 Monkeh|Lap I've never had one die actually
05:12 Cprossu it's like some part of the transmitter circuit fries itself
05:12 Monkeh|Lap .. I've had an AP die though
05:13 Cprossu on quite a few of the cards I've played with
05:13 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, uh, my AP went up in flames. :D
05:13 Cprossu I've had netgears go up in flames
05:13 Cprossu their consumer stuff uses shitty capacitors
05:13 Monkeh|Lap Really? Which?
05:13 Monkeh|Lap Because this was a Netgear.
05:13 Cprossu an old metal boxed netgear.
05:13 Cprossu blue just a router
05:13 Cprossu no wifi
05:13 Monkeh|Lap No sign of cap issues but a part went up in flames with no warning
05:13 Cprossu lol
05:14 Monkeh|Lap Had it replaced but it still won't boot, no other signs of damage
05:14 Cprossu squuuueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee followed by burn.
05:14 Monkeh|Lap Have to hand it to the new bit, it doesn't have problems handling the current..
05:14 Monkeh|Lap Something's gone short circuit I think
05:14 dbshortwave thumper or stomper food now
05:14 Cprossu one interesting thing though
05:14 Monkeh|Lap dbshortwave: It's all plastic :{
05:14 Cprossu I have many 12v 1.6A wall warts now =)
05:14 Monkeh|Lap I can probably post it over if you want to put a bare PCB through Thumper
05:15 Cprossu guess what those usually end up powering lol
05:15 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Oh, tell me about it. I just wish they weren't BLOODY TRANSFORMERS!
05:15 Monkeh|Lap They weigh a TON
05:15 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap : do you remember what I had done to that old linksys etherII pci card?
05:15 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Nope. I'm relatively new. :)
05:15 dbshortwave i think im going to drag my fat ass to bed... and smogout the ol' lady
05:15 Cprossu it really pissed me off so I had them take care of it for me
05:15 Cprossu backstory time!
05:16 Cprossu our master control switcher for the stream
05:16 Cprossu runs 10b2
05:16 Monkeh|Lap Oh lord. Classic.
05:16 Cprossu (thinnet 50ohm coax)
05:16 Monkeh|Lap Here, let me bring you into the 90s.. ;)
05:16 Cprossu and long story short the router bootp's off of it from an image produced by the server
05:17 Cprossu which is a compiled.....vxworks....image
05:17 astro73|alice the planetary gear is so much hack.
05:17 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: NRRRGH.
05:17 Cprossu (specifically real time version, vxworks 5.9)
05:17 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I have SO MUCH HATE for VXWorks.
05:17 Cprossu it's a box chock full of fpga's what can you do about it.
05:18 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Do what a good geek does and figure out how to run Linux on it.
05:18 Cprossu if you have hate for vxworks you'll really hate what the configuration software is based on
05:18 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: we had the best minds in the business give it a look
05:18 Cprossu no way jose.
05:18 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Response 'A hundred grand or fuck off'?
05:19 Cprossu two hundred grand and it still might not work properly
05:19 Cprossu and a team of 50 coders
05:19 Monkeh|Lap Tough one.
05:19 astro73|alice to do what?
05:19 Cprossu it runs at any given moment 263 real time processes
05:19 Cprossu switch analog video.
05:19 astro73|alice i mean, 50 coders to do what?
05:19 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Ahh, right, highly parallel stuff. Linux is.. not quite engineered for that.
05:19 Cprossu it's a system made for running several tv stations at the same time
05:19 Cprossu to build all the modules
05:20 astro73|alice oh, to rewrite the software
05:20 Cprossu there isn't just one instance of vxworks here.
05:20 Cprossu each module of the mainframe has it's own copy running
05:20 Monkeh|Lap That's special.
05:20 Cprossu read: gigantic mess
05:20 Monkeh|Lap There are other words I'd use.
05:20 Cprossu clusterFUCK too
05:21 Monkeh|Lap Yes, that's about right.
05:21 astro73|alice tell him about the business mess
05:21 Cprossu so ready about the software that compiles it?
05:21 Monkeh|Lap Hit me
05:21 Cprossu 290 databases.
05:21 Cprossu for the config that is directly compiled in
05:21 Monkeh|Lap You.. what.
05:21 Cprossu VB 1, vb 2, vb3, vb4, vb5, broderbund c,
05:22 Cprossu all clustered together and never updated
05:22 astro73|alice it goes that far back? I've missed some work
05:22 Cprossu this happened because...
05:22 Cprossu Phillips specced out a system, that BTS built.
05:22 Cprossu BTS was bought back by thompson
05:22 Cprossu GVG was spun off of thompson
05:23 Cprossu then bought the thompson branch off of thomspon
05:23 Cprossu and ended up 'supporting' it
05:23 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I.. really struggle to understand the braindamage involved in this stuff.
05:24 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: It's like reading Microsoft sourcecode.
05:24 Cprossu no one had to worry about software faults because it was their own engineers setting it all up
05:24 Cprossu they set it up once and sent it over to the button pushers
05:24 Cprossu and it ran happily ever after
05:24 Cprossu the original jupiter network server ran on windows 3.1
05:24 Cprossu then nt4
05:24 sndwrx hmm.  wireless card works in one mini-pci, but not the other.
05:25 sndwrx that's a problem because the 10/100 card needs to live in the first slot.
05:25 Cprossu to make matters worse.... there's a whole planetary system
05:25 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Sure they're both normal Mini-PCI slots?
05:26 sndwrx I do believe so...
05:26 Cprossu jupiter is a big router, so is venus, saturn is the master control we have, jupiter server was initially made to control only the jupiter router but got expanded
05:26 Cprossu then there's neptune
05:26 Cprossu but whatever
05:26 Cprossu point is it's a clusterfuck of stuff that isn't documented well and there were less than 5k made in the world anyway
05:26 Cprossu I had an intermittent network card
05:27 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Can't be if it doesn't work :)
05:27 Cprossu that made me pull my hair out until we properly diagnosed it
05:27 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Fault-finding in a 10b2 network is not my idea of fun.
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05:27 Cheezmo A wild Cheezmo appears
05:27 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: it was the card
05:27 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72lK01B2Ic
05:27 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 6-25-11 Cprossu's Revenge, Glen's Damage, and Comparing Length - YouTube
05:28 Cprossu we replaced the card with an identical one
05:28 Cprossu and everything worked properly
05:28 Cprossu (well identical except for the fault)
05:28 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Aaaand this is where Youtube decides I'm not good enough to be streamed video.
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05:28 BotSteve Spatula.
05:29 Monkeh|Lap DIE FLASH, DIE.
05:29 Cprossu in a fire.
05:29 LemPhone sigh, freaking power outage in my area
05:29 Cprossu ouch
05:29 LemPhone someones probably dug through a cable or something stupid
05:29 * Monkeh|Lap hands LemPhone a UPS
05:29 Monkeh|Lap Careful now, they're weighty.
05:29 LemPhone ETR is 17:00
05:30 LemPhone got one coming monkeh, planning to run my whole office off it with some mods
05:30 * Cprossu asks Monkeh|Lap if they are sealed batts
05:30 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yep.
05:30 Cprossu sad face
05:30 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Eh, it's only a small one.
05:31 Cprossu fair enough
05:31 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: If I ever have room I'm getting some marine batteries.
05:31 LemPhone heh
05:31 Monkeh|Lap Or maybe just a couple of old forklift ones. ;)
05:31 Cprossu I remember we had one guy who took a ~2500 apc and made a bank of optima yellow tops for it
05:31 Cprossu worked nicely for him
05:32 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I've seen a DIY DC UPS setup, literally a whole room full of shelves of 12V deep-cycle batteries wired together.
05:32 sndwrx nice.  this thing only wants to play with WEP.  No WPA support.
05:32 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I have no idea how they believe it's safe, but..
05:32 Cprossu the more batts you use the more you'll have to replace
05:32 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: How quaint. Introduce it to OpenVPN. :)
05:32 Cprossu hydrogen offgassing is always a worry
05:32 Cprossu that's why I like the clear ones for big installs
05:33 * Hackbat has two seal lead acids attached to his ups
05:33 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yeah, funnily enough, my provider no longer resides in that facility.
05:33 LemPhone yay, powers back
05:33 Cprossu that was quick
05:33 Hackbat I have mine hooked up to the modem and the AP
05:33 sndwrx It's been so long since I've done much of anything useful in Windows (are "useful" and "Windows" even valid in the same sentence?), I don't remember if Win2k can support WPA.
05:34 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Only with a supplicant.
05:34 Cprossu I am sure you can hack it in with a supplicant
05:34 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap beat me to it
05:34 Cprossu ninja.
05:34 sndwrx Welp.
05:34 sndwrx That's not happening tonight.
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05:35 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Probably not happening at all unless it's an Atheros card. :)
05:35 sndwrx Broadcom.
05:35 sndwrx Apparently stolen from an HP.
05:35 Monkeh|Lap Good luck with that.
05:35 sndwrx I will figure out the difference between the two slots tonight, however.
05:35 Monkeh|Lap Put Linux on it.
05:35 Cprossu sndwrx you at the lab?
05:35 Cprossu just curious
05:36 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: It's possibly one doesn't have a +5V supply.
05:36 sndwrx Cprossu: No I haven't been there in a couple weeks.  :/
05:36 Cprossu k
05:36 Hackbat sndwrx, i have a atheros card I could send you
05:36 sndwrx Monkeh|Lap: That's my intent, however it doesn't have optical drive nor does it boot from USB.
05:37 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Ahh, fun.
05:37 sndwrx Oh really?  With u.fl connectors?
05:37 * BatSteve performs random acts of slumber
05:37 Hackbat mini pcie
05:37 Hackbat yep
05:37 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Err.. grub4dos and an image?
05:37 sndwrx Monkeh|Lap: Parbally.
05:37 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: This thing predates PCI-E. Just a bit.
05:37 Hackbat oh
05:38 Hackbat lol
05:38 sndwrx Oh, yeah.  No excitement for the -e in this beast.
05:38 Hackbat http://img.alibaba.com/wsphoto/v0/368176679/Intel_5100_Half_Size_mini_PCI_E_Wireless_Card_300M_B48.jpg_200x200.jpg
05:38 Hackbat so not one of these?
05:38 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: I uh, do have one but it's in use.
05:39 sndwrx So no wifi love for this thing and no ethernet until I get the card.
05:39 sndwrx Guess it's doomed to serial terminal controls for the time being.
05:39 sndwrx Good thing I have a couple switches to play with and no other machines with serial port, haah.
05:39 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: It'll be this type: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/MiniPCI_WiFi.jpg
05:39 Hackbat sorry man
05:41 Hackbat all I have is two half size mpcie
05:41 sndwrx I'm too tired tonight to figure out the difference between the slots.  :/
05:41 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: It's bound to be lack of +5V, it's about all I can think of.
05:42 sndwrx I was under the impression this thing had CDPD too, but it doesn't appear to.  Not that it would be of any use.
05:42 Sgt_Lemming http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/MiniPCI_and_MiniPCI_Express_cards.jpg
05:42 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: That or one of them isn't electrically a PCI slot.
05:42 sndwrx Monkeh|Lap: Well, supposedly the modem card usually lives in that slot.
05:42 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Oh. Then it probably isn't even a PCI slot.
05:43 Hackbat AGP 2.0 version 3 reviosion Q
05:43 sndwrx According to the configuration by model, this thing was equipped with modem, enet, 802.11b and CDPD.
05:43 Hackbat *revision
05:43 Hackbat lol
05:43 Hackbat b
05:43 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: The connector has extra pins for, among other things, audio, USB, and phone line..
05:43 Hackbat it's weird
05:43 Hackbat it was b
05:43 Hackbat a
05:43 Hackbat then g and n
05:44 Hackbat if I remember it right
05:44 sndwrx Right, but in this instance the phone line and audio connect seperately to the card.
05:44 sndwrx Rather than going through the slot.
05:44 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Hm..
05:44 sndwrx Hackbat: a was before b.
05:44 lwq1996 ok seems that im tired an need sleep
05:44 sndwrx night lwq1996
05:44 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: With 802.11?
05:44 sndwrx Am I mistaken?
05:45 lwq1996 later sndwrx...
05:45 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Very.
05:45 lwq1996 later new guy that im to tired to type his name
05:45 sndwrx humm
05:45 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Far as  I know, a was after b. Not much though.
05:45 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: It just never took on because of the frequency change, it pre-dates G.
05:45 * lwq1996 passes out like a floppy noodle
05:46 lwq1996 gah...should i shut down my computer
05:46 lwq1996 .coin
05:46 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Hm, same time apparently.
05:46 BotSteve Heads!
05:46 lwq1996 ok yes
05:46 lwq1996 later all
05:46 sndwrx Actually it looks like they were both release September '99
05:46 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Yeah. Amazing it never caught on.
05:46 Cprossu a was expensive
05:46 Cprossu b was cheap.er
05:46 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Still is, because nobody will use it.
05:47 sndwrx I had no idea a was capable of such broad speeds.
05:47 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Wish it wasn't so pricy, because there's NO 5GHz traffic here. None at all.
05:47 Cprossu it also had a more limited range too
05:47 Cprossu iirc
05:47 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Theoretically.
05:47 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Now throw in 2.4GHz phones, other networks, and microwaves.
05:47 Sgt_Lemming it sucks for building penetration
05:48 Cprossu concrete or vent ducts + A were bad
05:48 sndwrx Monkeh|Lap: there's no 5ghz in use there?  so how about n?
05:48 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Not a lot of n, and n is still primarily 2.4.
05:48 Sgt_Lemming the amount of bandwidth available is a lot smaller in the 5.8GHz range as well
05:48 Cprossu n cards are exceptionially flaky I've found
05:48 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Because everyone buys the cheap 'zomg it's N! It's FAAAAAST!' stuff which doesn't have 5GHz radios.
05:48 * Hackbat was right :3
05:48 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Trouble is, it's all becoming far too sensitive and there's way too much noise.
05:49 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: 2.4GHz is an unusably cluttered band these days.
05:50 Cprossu indeed.
05:51 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Made all the worse by stupid ISP provided APs.
05:51 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Nothing like doing a scan and finding 15 APs each on 1, 6, and 11.
05:52 Cprossu esp 2.437 ghz =P
05:52 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, if you wanna see amusing, get a nice big 15dB omni, go to the top of the nearest hill, open netstumbler...
05:52 Cprossu (cluttered that is)
05:52 Sgt_Lemming BOOM, networks
05:52 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Oh, tell me about it.
05:52 Hackbat I like inssider
05:52 Hackbat has graphes
05:52 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: I can get >100 in one direction out my window.
05:52 Hackbat Graphes are cool
05:52 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: With a home-made antenna.
05:53 Sgt_Lemming Hackbat, netstumbler does graphs as well, and can drill down quite a lot more
05:53 Cprossu 39oz coffee can ftw @ Monkeh|Lap
05:53 Hackbat yeah but it's not a pretty
05:53 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Something like that.
05:53 Hackbat HACKBAT LIEK PRETTY THING
05:53 * Sgt_Lemming hands Hackbat a my little pony laptop
05:53 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I get some odd looks walking around with a Werther's Original tin and a laptop.
05:54 Hackbat not another netbook :c
05:54 Cprossu you know what my fav wifi hacking tool was though?
05:54 Cprossu a zipit2
05:54 Hackbat LOL
05:54 Hackbat ah the zipit
05:54 Cprossu have debian on a few microsd's
05:55 Cprossu each loaded for a diff setup
05:55 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: For fun I drown out APs with my cantenna.
05:55 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Open AP? Right, 250mW with a christonlyknowshowmanydBi antenna pointed at it.
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05:55 Cprossu I've done that before
05:56 Cprossu I also have a tiny asus b ap
05:56 sndwrx man I've been looking for a zipit for a couple years.
05:56 Cprossu which one bored day at the airport
05:56 Cprossu I setup and ran airsnort on..
05:56 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I'm fairly confident I've crashed a few APs doing that.
05:56 Monkeh|Lap Silly drivers can't take a bit of noise.
05:57 Cprossu then got more bored and ran ethereal
05:57 Cprossu and did a man in the middle
05:57 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: How far do you think I could kill an AP if I plumbed an 800W microwave into my antenna?
05:57 Cprossu it's shocking how many https stuff transmits pw's in plain text you know
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05:58 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: VPN ftw.
05:58 Cprossu it all depends on the air that night Monkeh|Lap, and how much moisture is in it
05:58 astro73|alice ummm.... is it really plaintext if it's HTTPS?
05:58 Cprossu it depends on how lazy the applet coders are.
05:58 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Some of them quietly POST via HTTP.
05:58 astro73|alice ah
05:58 Cprossu exactly
05:58 astro73|alice ewww
05:58 Monkeh|Lap Browsers normally warn these days but people just go 'oh that's okay, it's secure'
05:58 Cprossu it is ewww.
05:58 Cprossu you know what made me really laugh?
05:59 Cprossu cnn did a segment on how not to be scammed at the airport
05:59 Cheezmo Cprossu, I was registered on a site that had the password contained plaintext in a url link in an e-mail
05:59 Cprossu "if it says AP you're good to go, but never connect peer to peer'
05:59 Cprossu I damn near fell over laughing
06:00 astro73|alice how easy is it to forge a boarding pass?
06:00 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I just tune out that stuff these days. They're scarily dumb sometimes.
06:00 Monkeh|Lap Cheezmo: Good old fashioned phpBB emailing you plain-text passwords on registration?
06:00 Cheezmo not even, lol
06:00 Cprossu and people wonder why I order my bank/credit cards without RFID and why I don't do online banking =P
06:00 Hackbat yay
06:00 Hackbat myth busters are on
06:01 Cheezmo it was actually a quick-login link from regular e-mail
06:01 Monkeh|Lap Cheezmo: (which they shouldn't even see because the damn browser can hash it and give them the hash)
06:01 sndwrx yeeaaahhh this RFID nonsense in the bank cards really makes me angry.
06:01 Monkeh|Lap Cheezmo: Oh wow.
06:01 Cprossu or why I don't do "Verified by Visa" and always opt out
06:01 sndwrx I've really considered briefly microwaving my passport and passport card.
06:01 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Verified by Visa doesn't work anyway.
06:01 Cprossu despite how difficult they are making it lately.
06:01 Cheezmo I have mastercard paypass and I'm not afraid of anything
06:01 Hackbat oh god I've gotten inot people accounts on site cause they send a reusable login link
06:01 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: You can actually opt out of it even when it's enabled..
06:01 sndwrx My friend has microwaved his passport.
06:01 Cprossu yes
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06:01 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap here's what you do
06:01 Cprossu fill out the info, go to next step
06:01 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: My bank recently learned. They just don't ask any more.
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06:02 Cprossu opt out link is cryptic but it's there
06:02 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Click 'cancel'.
06:02 Cprossu some sites are weird
06:02 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: My bank no longer bothers with it thankfully. It's a waste of time.
06:02 Cprossu fuck no it's just a ploy to make YOU responsible (verified by visa) for being frauded.
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06:03 Cprossu kinda like the insurance deal when your car is stolen with keys stolen from your house
06:03 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I do online banking though. My bank is relatively secure.
06:03 Cheezmo funny how people try blaming their carelessness on other people
06:03 Hackbat oh god
06:03 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: ahahahahahahaah that was a good one
06:03 Hackbat my mom's Credit union switched the web system
06:04 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Relatively.
06:04 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: By that I mean they don't still use RC4.
06:04 Cprossu if it's bank of america or wells fargo I laugh at you.
06:04 Hackbat they nearly cause us to go poor from them fucking stuff up
06:04 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Nope, Lloyds TSB.
06:04 Cprossu ok they are a bit less dumb.
06:04 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I don't suffer from being a yank. ;)
06:04 Cprossu good.
06:05 Cprossu you wouldn't believe BoA's system
06:05 Cprossu it's just primed and ready for a fucking.
06:05 Monkeh|Lap Elaborate
06:05 Cprossu they even left the lube right there where it's easy to get to
06:05 Monkeh|Lap I may wish to fuck it.
06:05 Cprossu I can't elaborate too much on secure systems I've worked on
06:06 Cprossu except to say wildly inadiquite
06:06 Monkeh|Lap Ah, you've worked on it.
06:06 Cprossu I am brought in to fix OLD things.
06:06 Monkeh|Lap Mmm, legacy shite.
06:06 Hackbat guys...mythbusters... tv D:
06:07 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: Pond.
06:07 Cprossu I am aware, I'll have to watch it later
06:07 Cprossu actually here's what I can say
06:07 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: they should have stuck with OS/2
06:07 Cprossu let's leave it at that -_o
06:07 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: .. Are you trying to give me nightmares?
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06:07 Hackbat arg
06:08 Monkeh|Lap And there goes the closet!
06:08 Cprossu I am serious though.
06:08 Cprossu oooooh I got one system I haven't worked on
06:08 Cprossu let's talk about boa's ATM's
06:08 Cprossu hahahhaah
06:09 Cprossu ok they used to run OS/2 and have dedicated phone lines for each one.
06:09 Cprossu once in a while they'd multiplex em but still
06:09 Cprossu they were locked down way tight
06:10 Hackbat Monkeh|Lap, theres not really a closet
06:10 Monkeh|Lap All cleartext over the line?
06:10 Cprossu the current crop, if it says diebold, run windows XP, have an internet connection, and ports OPEN
06:10 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Ahh, the BSOD ATMs.
06:10 Cprossu that's all I have to tell you Monkeh|Lap
06:10 Cprossu you can fill in the rest of the gaps
06:10 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: We have petrol pumps running XP over here.
06:11 Cprossu including the fact that with the right set of circumstances it's possible to make a diebold atm spit all it's money out
06:11 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Damn shame they have cameras.
06:11 Cprossu I know. but guess what!
06:12 Cprossu some don't have standalone recorders
06:12 Hackbat they have toliets in japan that run XP
06:12 Cprossu two topics that will send shivers down your spine.
06:13 astro73|alice don't trust anything made by diebold?
06:13 Cprossu 1) they lock down their patches (obviously)
06:13 Hackbat they're on the side of the street and they have the word atm ont hem for some reasn
06:13 Cprossu 2) netbios
06:13 Hackbat no idea why
06:13 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I'm having bad ideas involving a balaclava and the middle of the night.
06:13 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Because hey, if they want to make it that easy..
06:14 Cprossu all I know is that I still do things the hard way
06:14 Cprossu which means I don't have enough money to build my big underground lab
06:14 Cprossu which sucks.
06:14 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Lab hell, I'd just like a gigabit connection and an air conditioned basement.
06:15 Cprossu I made shit work that shouldn't. that's what I enjoy doing.
06:15 Cprossu I am a hacker only in the sense that I make things do things they were never made, thought, or designed to do
06:16 Cprossu and that's my general understanding and definition of hacker I try to propagate.
06:16 Monkeh|Lap I'm a hacker only in the sense that I have a hatchet and I like hitting things with it. ;)
06:17 Monkeh|Lap Speaking of, in a couple of hours I'll be hitting my alarm.
06:17 Monkeh|Lap I should probably get some sleep
06:17 Cprossu the current generation lacks the understanding to know what cheap hardware can accomplish
06:17 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Hey, current generation(ish) here, thank you. :P
06:17 Cprossu I blame all the high level object oriented programming and the proliferation of x86
06:17 Cprossu I fucking hate x86 assembler =P
06:18 Monkeh|Lap x86 works unfortunately
06:18 Cprossu not as much as java and c# though =P
06:18 Monkeh|Lap Java and C# need to die horribly.
06:18 Cprossu 6502 assembler rocks.
06:18 Cprossu it's elegant.
06:18 Monkeh|Lap Java for being a fat POS and C# because nobody has ever written something decent in it.
06:19 Cprossu Z80 assembler is a hack job that ends up being more awesome due to it's flexibility than it's confusing limitations
06:19 Cprossu .net also needs to die a horrible death
06:19 * Monkeh|Lap likes ARM
06:19 Cprossu with lots of fire.
06:20 Cprossu when you look at an update and there are 3x the amount of security updates to fix the flaws in .net 1-4 than the entire xp operating system, you FAILED
06:21 astro73|alice i know what light hardware can accomplish, thankyouverymuch
06:21 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Speaking of, you know what really scares me?
06:21 Cprossu jungle buns.
06:21 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Silverlight.
06:21 Cprossu thank god they are throwing it out
06:21 Cprossu though...............
06:22 Cprossu I know several companies who made firm commitments to it
06:22 Monkeh|Lap If Silverlight catches on, security will go down the drain.
06:22 Sgt_Lemming more fool them
06:22 Monkeh|Lap I don't trust it.
06:22 Cprossu and are still making out with it not realizing the hot set of legs has a zombie head and worm infested breasts
06:22 Monkeh|Lap I trust it less than Flash, and Flash has a really bad record.
06:23 Cprossu flash and acrobat for that matter
06:23 Cprossu yeeech
06:23 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Acrobat.. argh.
06:23 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I really hate pdf.
06:23 Cprossu by adding the 3d viewer to pdf
06:23 Cprossu they really blew it
06:23 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Because Acrobat is the only thing which reliably renders almost anything out there, and it's AWFUL.
06:24 Cprossu sumatra pdf reader is what i use under 'doze
06:24 Cprossu acrobat is a pile of absolute garbage.
06:24 Cprossu you know what pissed me off the most rage wise?
06:24 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Unfortunately poppler/xpdf based.
06:25 Monkeh|Lap Go on
06:25 Cprossu autodesk putting the ribbon interface in everything
06:25 Cprossu and the whole ribbon interface itself
06:25 Cprossu reminds me of microsoft bob.
06:25 Cprossu only with more retarded users in mind.
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06:26 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Scary thing is, a lot of them are that retarded.
06:26 Cprossu everything can be done well in autocad with simple commands.
06:26 Cprossu I could care less about them they shouldn't be designing my house in autocad if they need a ribbon interface.
06:26 Cprossu god knows what they'd fuck up
06:27 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Design my own house, thanks.
06:27 Monkeh|Lap I can do structural calcs.
06:27 Monkeh|Lap Hell, I can build the house.
06:27 Cprossu I can do all the welding, 3/4" boiler plate OK?
06:27 Cprossu xD
06:28 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Shouldn't need any welding anyway.
06:28 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I like concrete lintels.
06:28 Cprossu I like arc welding.
06:28 Cprossu makes me happy
06:28 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: There is that.
06:28 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Want to see arc welding with a sparkler?
06:28 Cprossu haha
06:28 Cprossu that would look hillarious
06:29 Cprossu granted I'd say 7013 is a sparkler on it's own
06:29 Cprossu especially in 5/16 or bigger
06:29 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I think it's in this one somewhere: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI50fONzrEA
06:29 BotSteve Title: Ignition Test - YouTube
06:29 Cheezmo ah yes, Photonic Induction
06:29 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Along with big lasers and 200kV.
06:29 Cheezmo classics
06:29 Monkeh|Lap Cheezmo: :)
06:30 Cprossu only complaint is photonic's welders are puny
06:30 Cheezmo I still love the cinder block in the spun-up washer
06:30 Monkeh|Lap Don't try these things at home.
06:30 Monkeh|Lap Cheezmo: I love the edits of that.
06:31 Cheezmo :P
06:31 Cprossu http://pdiimages.praxair.com/PDIB2CImages/LINK1386-3_img1.jpg
06:31 Cprossu ^ I prefer something with a little more kick Monkeh|Lap
06:31 * Cheezmo grovels to an old employer for re-hire
06:31 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Oh, I think I can do better than that..
06:31 Cheezmo ugh, how horrible the economy has become
06:32 Cprossu better than a 1000amp 100% duty cylce arc welder Monkeh|Lap?
06:32 Cprossu Though to be fair I've used 800 and loved it.
06:33 Cprossu and never a 1k
06:33 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Give me a few minutes and I can play around with more amps than that.
06:33 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Just have to be real quick.
06:33 Cprossu unless you are building battle ships...no 1000 is enough for that
06:33 Cprossu unless you're building... actually I cannot think of a need for a bigger arc welder than that
06:34 Cprossu seriously
06:34 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I can probably get an arc around 4kA going here.
06:35 Cprossu well 45VDC @ 1000A is 45KW still.
06:35 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: How about 240VAC? :D
06:35 tonsofpcs welll....
06:35 Cprossu then you are vaporizing not welding
06:36 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Depends how quick you are..
06:36 Cprossu you'd have to preheat the shit outa that metal
06:36 Cprossu if you wanted it to maintain any of it's form
06:37 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: How about 2VAC at about 80kA?
06:38 Cheezmo monkey, I doubt you could squeeze that much from 2V
06:38 Monkeh|Lap Well, actually, not sure how many amps.
06:38 Monkeh|Lap Just.. one huge transformer.
06:38 Cheezmo even with a total circuit resistance of 0.01ohm, you's only get 200A
06:39 Cprossu how the hell can I start an arc with 2 though?
06:39 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: With great difficulty.
06:39 Cprossu it wouldn't be clean at all
06:39 Cheezmo Cprossu has a point
06:39 Monkeh|Lap Sure as hell melt some metal though.
06:39 Cprossu yeah but melting and metal FUSION are differen
06:39 Cprossu t
06:40 Cprossu the whole point is the mixing of the filler material and the 2 metals all into eachother
06:40 Cprossu whole length of the metal without going through it =)
06:40 Cprossu that's the trick.
06:41 Cprossu and AC is nice and all but it's shit for doing vertical.
06:41 Cheezmo I think the only welding you could do like that is brazing/soldering
06:42 Cprossu I learned arc, oxy ace, and some tig.
06:42 Cprossu I suck ass at tig
06:42 Cheezmo I only ever did some MIG
06:42 Cprossu I hate the way my beads end up looking
06:42 Cprossu the thing I love about arc
06:42 Cprossu is you can't fake a good bead.
06:42 Cheezmo well, did a bit of oxy/ace brazing
06:42 Cprossu it's either good or it's shit.
06:42 Cprossu no in between
06:43 Cprossu meanwhile you can lay all the bird droppings you want in mig and you'll never know if you had penetration or not unless you know to look for the heat line
06:44 Cprossu freakin' people watch american chopper, go down to the home depot, get the wirefeed FLUX FUCKING CORE FILLED .029 or whatever it is and the 90-100 machine that you plug into 115
06:45 Cprossu and think they can build a trailer with it
06:45 Cprossu that shit might be ok for sheet metal, and ONLY IF SET UP RIGHT.
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06:45 Cprossu sorry Cheezmo and Monkeh|Lap I had to rage there
06:45 Cheezmo :P
06:45 Cheezmo w/e lol
06:46 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: *shrug*
06:46 Cprossu you know what I mean though right?
06:46 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Should see my rages about people who think they can paint.
06:46 Cprossu hahahahaahahahah
06:46 Cheezmo I rage at the local drivers
06:46 Cprossu I can't paint worth shit.
06:46 Cheezmo fuckers need to learn to use their GODDANT TURN SIGNALS
06:46 Cheezmo derp
06:46 Cprossu paint thinner and shit tons of layers is all I can say
06:46 Cprossu and it turns out better. that's to
06:47 Cprossu avoid my shitty skills
06:47 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: You're doing it wrong.
06:47 Cprossu and buffer them as much as possible.
06:47 Cprossu no shit.
06:47 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: And it's all in the prep.
06:47 Cprossu I just hate wet sanding. =P
06:47 Cprossu and prep doesn't work if what you are painting is shite.
06:47 Cprossu and you are just trying to make it _less shite_
06:47 Monkeh|Lap Making it un-shite is the prep.
06:48 Cprossu I didn't say un-shite
06:48 Cprossu just _less shite_
06:48 Cprossu and cheaply.
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06:48 * Cprossu laughs but has used rustoleum canned paint before on car panels
06:48 Cprossu with ROLLERS
06:49 Cprossu none-the-less
06:49 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I kill you!
06:49 Cprossu it still came out better than some of our shitty body shops
06:49 Cprossu that's how terrible some people are
06:49 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: It's the in-the-house stuff which bothers me though.
06:49 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: It's all hidden until the worst time.
06:50 Cprossu yeah if you can't see it in pure daylight it's a moot point
06:50 Cprossu and from a distance too
06:50 Cheezmo evenin, Seroster
06:50 Cprossu I love having 300+ days of sun back in AZ
06:50 Seroster Crazy americans.
06:50 Cheezmo :P
06:50 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: 300 days of sun?
06:50 Seroster Think that 7.50 am is evening
06:50 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Not sure I've had that in my entire life.
06:51 Cprossu I'll be back in AZ tomorrow.
06:51 Cprossu yay.
06:51 Cheezmo Seroster, I'm Canadian :P
06:51 Monkeh|Lap Cheezmo: Crazy Americans who can't accept they're American.
06:51 Cprossu btw Monkeh|Lap what do you find is a decent non-incandescant 3200K light?
06:51 Cprossu they all seem to suck when you look at their real spectrum.
06:52 Cheezmo Cprossu, are we going for perfection or light mood?
06:52 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I don't play with lights that much.
06:52 Cprossu sometimes I have the need
06:52 Cprossu lol
06:52 Cheezmo lol
06:52 Hackbat I suggest the sun
06:53 Cprossu yeah but you can't _always_ be outside
06:53 Cheezmo use one warm-white and one cool-white fluoro
06:53 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I'm more of a cool-white anyway.
06:53 Cprossu not a bad idea
06:53 Cprossu just fill in the gaps
06:53 Cheezmo I like my cool-white, but it can be a bit too white for mood light
06:53 Cprossu =D
06:54 Cprossu haha
06:54 Cprossu I like my labortory clean cool white too but it gets in the way sometimes
06:55 Cprossu it really sucks to have harsh cool light blasting every surface you have when you've got a migraine
06:55 Monkeh|Lap I'm one of those lucky migraine-free people
06:56 Cprossu bastard.
06:56 Cprossu I bet your back and joints don't have arthritus either
06:56 Monkeh|Lap Indeed
06:56 Cprossu and you don't have hemhoroids.
06:56 Cheezmo bit TMI there methinks
06:56 Cheezmo :P
06:56 Monkeh|Lap I'm not an old man. :P
06:56 Cprossu yeah but still =P
06:57 Cprossu I am not an old man either
06:57 Cprossu but I have old man problems.
06:57 Cprossu sucks.
06:57 Cheezmo dunno if I'm young or old in here
06:57 Cheezmo most internet things I do I tend to be an older one
06:57 Cprossu My first OWN PC was a 5150 which seems to date me.
06:57 Cheezmo I bet I'd be young with WoW though :D
06:58 Cprossu except when I tell you I payed $42 for it at a computer swap meet.
06:58 Cheezmo my first personal was an AMD K2
06:58 Cprossu K6/2?
06:58 Cheezmo yuhp
06:58 Cheezmo :D
06:58 Cheezmo see, so long ago I forgot
06:58 Cprossu fun chip. the k6/3 333 was a more fun chip
06:58 Cheezmo :P
06:58 Cprossu had mine up to 595 mhz
06:58 Cheezmo I've never actually overclocked
06:59 Monkeh|Lap hurk, 7am
06:59 Cheezmo I could do it with mine here, but I'd see no diff
06:59 Cprossu I used to be way into the benchmarking and overclocking crowd
06:59 * Monkeh|Lap attempts to get a minimal amount of sleep
06:59 Cprossu night Monkeh|Lap
06:59 Cprossu sorry we kept you up
06:59 Cheezmo I have 6-cores at 3.2GHz, so I see no need
06:59 Cprossu by we I mean I
06:59 Cprossu running a hex core myself
06:59 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Eh, knowing me it'd have been a book if not you.
07:00 Cprossu (CPU) AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1075T Processor, AMD64 Family 16 Model 10 Stepping 0, AuthenticAMD - Central Processor - Load: %2 - 3009 Mhz
07:00 Cprossu =)
07:00 Cprossu been happy with it
07:00 Cprossu shoved it into a motherboard I bought in december 2008.
07:01 Cprossu no complaints here.
07:01 Cheezmo (CPU) 6-AMD Phenom™ II X6 1090T Processor, 3199MHz (7% Load)
07:01 Cprossu (OS) Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Service Pack 2 (5.2.3790) running: 45 processes.
07:01 Cprossu (Uptime) 3wks 4days 15hrs 50mins 36secs
07:01 Cprossu ^_^
07:01 Cheezmo I reset today :V
07:02 Cheezmo (OS) Windows XP Professional, Service Pack 3 (5.1 - 2600), (installed for) 59w 5d 6h 12m, (uptime) 13h 25m 57s, (record) 5w 2d 1h 52m 52s (set on 18.05.2009 13:35 using WinXP)
07:02 Cheezmo max was 5w
07:02 Cprossu I've got a xp box (SP1) that's been online an obscene amount of time.
07:02 Cheezmo I had an older one that had like 32w or something
07:03 Cprossu 470 days on xp sp1 still counting.
07:03 Cheezmo nice
07:03 Cheezmo what's it doing?
07:03 Cheezmo fileserv?
07:03 Cprossu gmod server
07:03 Cheezmo ah
07:04 Cprossu though I retired it officially when I found a c2d at a goodwill like a month agfo
07:04 Cprossu still not powering it down
07:04 Cheezmo :D
07:04 Cheezmo gonna take a year and a half to break record :P
07:04 Cprossu 2.3ghz c2d and a mobo for $20
07:04 Cprossu wrapped in cling plastic o_o
07:04 Cheezmo AAAHHH
07:04 Cprossu somehow it survived
07:04 Cheezmo *eyetwitch*
07:05 Cprossu hey it's been up since I installed it
07:05 Cheezmo I have a lot of static bags, and if I don't have static bags, I use tinfoil :V
07:06 Cprossu I don't like tinfoil if there are cr2032's involved.
07:06 Cprossu if you catch my drift
07:06 Cheezmo yeah
07:06 Cheezmo though I never have the need to wrap mobos
07:06 Cheezmo or ethernet expansion-slot cards
07:06 Cprossu still it was worth a $20 gamble
07:06 Cheezmo (used on some UPS units i built)
07:07 Cprossu and most desktop motherboards have excessive amounts of grounding plane
07:07 Cprossu not so much on consoles or laptop parts though
07:08 Cprossu or WD hard drives =P
07:08 Cprossu I have a flight tomorrow
07:08 Cprossu later
07:08 Cheezmo cheers
07:11 Hackbat ...
07:11 Hackbat I just tryed to use my mouse on the tv
07:11 Hackbat I feel derp
07:13 Cheezmo lol
07:14 Cheezmo I've done that before
07:14 Cheezmo and not with the computer I currently have installed on the TV
07:14 Cheezmo :P
07:15 Cheezmo WELP
07:15 Cheezmo I gotta get some sleep here :U
07:15 Cheezmo gotta pick up a Honda ECU, solder a few bits on it, and charge $25
07:16 Cheezmo gosh, I love lazy people
07:16 Cheezmo anyhoo, Cheez out
07:16 Seroster You two annoy me
07:17 Seroster Mostly because  you got the exact same name lenght and starting letter
07:17 Cheezmo_Away wut
07:17 Cheezmo_Away yeah, I hate that
07:17 Seroster Can't tell you apart =P
07:17 Cheezmo_Away k bai
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07:51 dr_jkl rrrfngh
07:51 dr_jkl braaaains
08:09 exor674 braiiiiiiins!
08:20 Seroster BRAAAINZ
08:24 Hackbat http://melodysheep.bandcamp.com/album/symphony-of-science-bundle-v12
08:24 Hackbat <3
08:24 BotSteve Title: Symphony of Science Bundle v1.2 | melodysheep
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11:17 angy >< I'm 50G short on my hard drive, no idea where they are supposed to hide!
11:18 masterofmonks angy: What OS?
11:18 angy macos
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11:19 angy I think I'm going to need to reboot, I removed a 11G file and the free space did not even change
11:19 angy back after reboot
11:21 masterofmonks angy: http://lifehacker.com/5835082/five-best-hard-drive-space-analyzers
11:21 BotSteve Title: Five Best Hard Drive Space Analyzers
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11:22 masterofmonks angy: http://lifehacker.com/5835082/five-best-hard-drive-space-analyzers
11:22 BotSteve Title: Five Best Hard Drive Space Analyzers
11:22 masterofmonks Also this is trolling BatSteve
11:22 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8kM90aqBOU
11:22 BotSteve Title: King Crimson • Mother Hold The Candle Steady While I Shave The Chicken's Lip - YouTube
11:23 masterofmonks angy-droid: Unfortunately the one listed for mac costs money.
11:24 angy-droid :)
11:24 angy-droid I'll stick with dy
11:24 angy-droid du
11:25 masterofmonks du?
11:25 angy-droid console tool
11:25 masterofmonks I like the graphical display with windirstat.
11:26 angy the reboot retrieve me my space
11:26 masterofmonks It makes it very quick and easy to figure out where all your space has gone.
11:27 angy I'm using du and bc to figure where my space is usually
11:27 angy but right now, I think my btree was a little borked
11:27 angy but all the tools have very nice interfaces
11:27 angy I'm jealous that I can't have that in console!
11:28 angy I think du translate to disk usage
11:30 angy I'm going to get that one on my windows vm though
11:31 masterofmonks windirstat?
11:36 angy yes
11:36 angy I hope it'll be able to do magic in NFS shares :)
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11:50 angy time to go, see ya!
12:02 MadManMarkAu Oh, how rude
12:02 MadManMarkAu TGG radio stream now needs a username/password
12:02 MadManMarkAu :/
12:02 MadManMarkAu Not very "community radio" friendly :P
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12:55 yNos HAI!
12:56 Cprossu hi yNos
12:57 a-gone hi yNos
12:59 yNos BotSteve: tell ToastDude There are some pretty simple 6 meter AM rigs you can build out there, but if you going to try taking this on as a first project, i'd recommend a CW rig first. you can change a CW rig to an AM rig with a few mods. Do you have your radio ticket yet? do you have a mentor to draw out some pictures/charts to make things a little more clear?
12:59 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when ToastDude is around.
12:59 yNos a-gone?
13:00 yNos but you are here...
13:00 angy =)
13:00 yNos does not parse
13:00 yNos failed to compile thought
13:00 * yNos derailed
13:00 yNos ;)
13:01 yNos so how is france/arizona today?
13:02 yNos still raining here...
13:02 angy great, sunny and kind of warm
13:03 Cprossu I am still in indy for a moment
13:03 Cprossu coming back to AZ today
13:03 Cprossu thankfully
13:03 Cprossu had to bury grandma.
13:05 yNos sorry to hear that.
13:06 yNos when do you head back?
13:06 yNos angy - guess who might be shipped to Schiltigheim in february..
13:07 angy that's close enough to my brother :)
13:08 yNos we might be closing our contract with a NOC vendor.. someone will need to go and collect hardware/tapes/etc to bring back and prep for here
13:09 angy =) I'll go see you if I'm able to free myself then
13:09 angy ok, time to move around, see ya!
13:09 yNos later
13:11 * yNos yawns
13:12 Cprossu heading back soon
13:12 Cprossu 8:12 now
13:13 Cprossu plane leaves at like 2 something i think
13:26 yNos so did you get back to AZ, or did you just hang out in indy?
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13:40 Cprossu yNos I did go back to AZ
13:40 Cprossu thankfully
13:41 yNos some emotional downtime before the tidalwave?
13:41 Cprossu not so much
13:42 Cprossu I really should start packing though heh
13:42 Cprossu at least I don't have very much _to_ pack
13:43 Cprossu my first flight leaves 3:45 phew
13:43 Cprossu I thought it was earlier
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13:44 wannabe1987 .
13:44 dbshortwave ,
13:44 wannabe1987 hi
13:44 dbshortwave hello ;]
13:45 Cprossu here's hoping no gates change on us as we have some time in denver
13:45 wannabe1987 yeah?  fly safe!  i like DIA airport tho....
13:53 wannabe1987 o.o
13:59 dbshortwave o.o
13:59 wannabe1987 my compooper was defragging last night and windows updates decided to reboot it...it wasn't done defragging :(
14:02 Cprossu I hate automatic updates for many reasons
14:03 wannabe1987 wish it'd go away....
14:03 Cprossu esp the forced reboot
14:03 Cprossu you can disable it
14:03 dbshortwave i know that feeling Cprossu
14:03 wannabe1987 o?
14:03 Cprossu control panel->automatic updates
14:03 wannabe1987 kk
14:03 Cprossu then you'll have to go to security system to disable the stupid alert about it being off
14:03 wannabe1987 lol
14:04 Cprossu * security center
14:04 dbshortwave reboot nag
14:05 Cprossu dbshortwave it's not a nag if it auto reboots your pc after you ignore it.
14:05 wannabe1987 where in control panel is the auto update?
14:05 Cprossu *not a nag anymore once it
14:05 Cprossu try security center
14:05 Cprossu you on 7 or vista?
14:05 Cprossu or xp?
14:05 wannabe1987 7
14:06 Cprossu then go to security center
14:06 wannabe1987 o found it
14:06 wannabe1987 o ok
14:06 Cprossu should be in there
14:06 dbshortwave im on XP
14:06 Cprossu also "change the way security center alerts me
14:06 Cprossu "and uncheck automatic updates
14:06 wannabe1987 my other puter is on xp
14:07 Cprossu XP will autoreboot too under certain circumstances
14:07 wannabe1987 yeah
14:07 Cprossu just not as often
14:07 wannabe1987 but i don't have that one here....
14:07 wannabe1987 and i don't really care righ tnow :P tis my backup compooper
14:07 Cprossu it is dreadfully annot
14:07 Cprossu ying
14:07 wannabe1987 turned off auto reboot...what else did i need to change?
14:08 Cprossu if you just switched it to download and let me decide nothing.
14:09 wannabe1987 thats what i did
14:09 Cprossu k.
14:15 Cprossu hrmmmmm
14:16 Cprossu egrsteve|away, egrsteve, and yNos the stream pc is down and I don't know why. Jupiter computer reports down too.
14:25 dbshortwave http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/309840_131817023585941_111194302314880_111794_728391602_n.jpg
14:26 wannabe1987 o.o
14:29 Cprossu http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2010/03/26/cooking-some-bacon-the-machine-gun-method/
14:29 BotSteve Title: Cooking Some Bacon – The Machine Gun Method
14:30 dbshortwave damn'
14:31 wannabe1987 its snowing.  someone hand me a flame thrower to put on the front of my car plz
14:33 * wannabe1987 sees someone wearing a tank top. and she's cold. PUT CLOTHES ON
14:33 Cprossu sounds like an invitation to disaster
14:37 * wannabe1987 is wearing 2 sweatshirts and 2 hats....2 pairs of pants and 2 pair socks. i'm double!
14:43 yNos its runing over here.
14:43 yNos **raining
14:43 a-gone it's sunny here, 17C
14:44 a-gone =)
14:44 yNos no pale evil flakes other than the once here in IRC :P
14:44 wannabe1987 lol
14:44 wannabe1987 good!
14:44 wannabe1987 i heard otherwise, yNos
14:45 Cprossu .tfw 46260
14:45 BotSteve 37°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Indianapolis, IN!  'You think this is cold? Have you been to upstate New York?'
14:45 Cprossu =(
14:45 yNos .tfw 49336
14:45 BotSteve 36°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND WET IN Morley, MI!  'Actually, a sharp-stick in the eye might not all be that bad right now.'
14:45 wannabe1987 .tfw 48838
14:45 BotSteve 37°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND WET IN Greenville, MI!  'Blue balls x 2'
14:45 Cprossu .tfw 12345
14:45 BotSteve 59°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Schenectady, NY!  'Everything's nice butter weather!'
14:45 Cprossu .tfw 85021
14:45 BotSteve 60°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'It could be worse.'
14:45 Cprossu at least i'ts better in phoenix.
14:46 yNos shocker!
14:46 Cprossu also it's only 7:46AM
14:46 Cprossu in phx
14:46 Cprossu .weather 85021
14:46 BotSteve Cloudy, 60.8℉ (16℃), 30.27in (1022mb), Moderate breeze 12kt (↑) - KPHX 13:51Z
14:46 wannabe1987 .tfw denver OH
14:46 BotSteve 39°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Denver, OH, !  'Call your local travel agency and ask them if they're serious.'
14:46 wannabe1987 .tfw denver
14:46 BotSteve 39°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Denver, CO!  'Even penguins are wearing jackets.'
14:46 Cprossu I wish those had the forcasted high
14:47 Cprossu high is 76. woot
14:47 yNos .tfw 49310
14:47 BotSteve 37°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Blanchard, MI!  'Fuck this place.'
14:47 yNos LOL
14:47 Cprossu ^ HAAHAHHAAHHAA
14:47 Cprossu good one
14:48 dbshortwave LOL
14:48 dbshortwave .tfw 13346
14:48 BotSteve 50°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT AND WET IN Hamilton, NY!  'It could be worse.'
14:48 wannabe1987 o.O
14:48 wannabe1987 >.<
14:48 dbshortwave lmao yeah it could be fuckin snowing
14:49 dbshortwave sadly they are predicting that
14:50 dbshortwave Tonight
14:50 dbshortwave 34 °F
14:50 dbshortwave Chance of Snow
14:50 dbshortwave 40% chance of precipitation
14:51 yNos skip the snow, give me ICE!
14:51 yNos the A bike is studded and ready.
14:51 yNos next tues we work on the B bike.
14:51 dbshortwave heh awesome
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14:51 * a-gone starts his week-end
14:52 Cprossu how did ajprog's buke turn out?
14:52 * yNos wants to
14:52 Cprossu @ yNos
14:52 yNos its a runner, it needs a little love, but nothing major.
14:52 Cprossu cool.
14:52 yNos tires for sure
14:52 yNos maybe swingarm buchings
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14:52 yNos maybe a chain.
14:53 tlockley hey Cprossu/tggmc any reason the stream is out?
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14:54 yNos i wonder if we can get urethane bushings for that beast...
14:54 wannabe1987 hi mantere
14:54 mantere o/
14:54 Cprossu I don't kow why. the radio stream had issues too and also the jupiter pc is not online
14:54 yNos suck
14:54 Cprossu glad I';ll be on a plane while they get to figure that mess out @ tlockley
14:55 Cprossu how did the cpu swap go on the xserve tlockley?
14:55 tlockley shitty
14:55 wannabe1987 they didnt lose power did they?
14:55 tlockley i think i am just going to save all the stuff and put it in a new mobo and case
14:56 tlockley I think it has to do with the LB on the xserve and not the cpus
14:56 Cprossu wow that sukcs.
14:56 tlockley but i dont have another socet 771 in the house to test my theory
14:56 wannabe1987 Cprossu the news said 20,000 ppl in kent county were w/o power last night cuz of high winds....
14:56 Cprossu shit.
14:56 wannabe1987 my friend was out, but she's 10 min from the lab....
14:56 Cprossu well we'll see what was broken
14:57 tlockley hey angy
14:57 angy hi tlockley, how's the island?
14:57 wannabe1987 o its an angy!
14:57 tlockley suprisingly warm. we are having a very late indian summer here
14:57 angy not an, the!
14:57 wannabe1987 i didn't know who agone was....
14:58 wannabe1987 THE ONLY ANGY IN THE ENTIRE WORLD!!!!!
14:59 yNos hrm.. i cant connect to tgg..
14:59 yNos cant ping...
14:59 yNos cant ssh..
14:59 wannabe1987 poweer out????
14:59 yNos or comcast finally fixed their shit and didnt give any warning.
14:59 tlockley eh?
14:59 wannabe1987 lol
14:59 angy or the two at the same time
15:00 angy .cookie tlockley
15:00 BotSteve Here you go, tlockley, I baked you a gingerbread cookie!
15:00 tlockley thanks BotSteve and angy
15:00 BotSteve Happy to help, tlockley
15:00 dbshortwave comcast fix something? HA doubt it
15:00 tlockley but they are finally introducing IPv6 to mainstream customers
15:00 tlockley sorta
15:00 yNos dbshortwave, we have a contact on the inside..
15:00 angy given the amount of work it seems to be for them, I kind of doubt as well
15:00 dbshortwave ah
15:00 angy I'll have to push again Merit for lsl
15:01 yNos it was a config file change.. so if the modem was reset, or was told to reset..
15:01 dbshortwave its like timewarner cable... there fix is to make you slower
15:01 wannabe1987 lololololol
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15:02 yNos maybe i will wrap up my scase work and put some pants on, head down there and see what damage i can do.
15:02 dbshortwave heh
15:02 angy oh, and yNos I found an old 1000SX to 8P8C converter, I'm going to test it and send it if it's working
15:03 yNos COOL!!
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15:03 yNos that would make life a bit more fun.
15:03 angy you'll have to find attenuator though, I'm pretty sure it's long haul
15:04 angy I think it's 1000LZ not SX
15:04 yNos Its ok, i am kinda lazy my self
15:05 tlockley 1000LZ?
15:05 Cprossu oh goodie @ yNos
15:05 Cprossu lol
15:05 angy super long haul mono node fiber tlockley
15:06 tlockley oh
15:07 Cprossu oh I can't wait to ditch that comcast modem.
15:07 yNos it can be a bridge, just dont want it to be a router.
15:08 yNos angy: do you mean an ST connector?
15:08 tlockley does TGG have a static?
15:08 tlockley IP
15:09 yNos we have a /28
15:09 angy yNos: it got SC connectors
15:09 tlockley ok
15:09 angy it's meant to be injected into MAN networks
15:09 tlockley hopefully soon i can get comcast to give me a IPv6 address
15:10 yNos ahh.. is it a PON unit?
15:10 angy nope
15:10 angy it's above the injection site
15:10 angy you get out of that one and directly inject into the MAN
15:10 yNos tlockley: once we have an interface on the outside (read, not NATed) we will have a tunnel, doing bgp with comcast and HE.net
15:11 angy bgp with comcast? that would be very fun
15:11 tlockley how does one do BGP? i cant seem to find good info on it
15:11 angy the harder part is finding a bgp provider
15:11 tlockley and what is the point of doing BGP as a end user?
15:12 angy fun
15:12 angy or using multiple upstreams to use the best available route
15:12 angy but most of it is just doing something super geeky
15:13 tlockley i see
15:13 angy I know that sonic can provide you bgp feed in sacramento
15:13 yNos you have to get an AS, i got mine from HE.net. then you configure bgpd(i use BGPd) to work with your tunnel provider and your local isp (if your local ISP will let you do that)
15:14 angy you don't /need/ your as number
15:14 yNos my ISP got IPv6 after i setup my tunnel with HE..
15:14 angy if you announce smaller than a /24 in ipv4, you got filtered by most peers
15:15 yNos i kinda bumbled through it with help from my former coworkes at the my isp..
15:16 angy and you have to be very very careful when you do bgp
15:16 angy at the same time on what you announce and what you accept
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15:17 yNos iirc, my bgpd config only talks to one machine at my former employer, and 2 machines at he.net
15:17 yNos tunnelbroker.net
15:18 tlockley what does bgp let you do yNos/angy?
15:19 yNos .w BGP
15:19 BotSteve "The Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) is the protocol backing the core routing decisions on the Internet." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BGP
15:20 yNos so if you have a tunnel and a local connection, it will choose the best path for you to connect to... dynamic routing is nice
15:21 tlockley so the point of running BGP is to have a better routed connection?
15:21 Cprossu lol.
15:22 angy bgp let you break the internet :)
15:22 angy no one know how bgp works
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15:22 tlockley well thats reassuring
15:22 angy most internet outage are imputable to BGP
15:23 tlockley ah
15:24 tlockley well its good to know that the most expensive part of rebuilding the xserve is a daul socket mobo
15:24 * Sgt_Lemming nods
15:24 Cprossu that sucks
15:24 tlockley yah but i dont need to buy mutch
15:24 Sgt_Lemming check NewEgg though, should be able to get some open box ones cheapish
15:25 tlockley daul socket lga 771 $320
15:25 Cprossu *dual
15:25 tlockley derp
15:25 Cprossu $320 buys you a really nice server board too
15:25 Cprossu what it go for second hand?
15:25 wannabe1987 sndwrx r u coming to mcc today?
15:25 tlockley thats what it is... i think
15:25 tlockley http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182101
15:26 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - SUPERMICRO MBD-X7DAL-E-O ATX Server Motherboard Dual LGA 771 Intel 5000X DDR2 667
15:26 Cprossu lol how much do the cpu's go for tlockley?
15:26 Cprossu hahahahaa
15:27 Cprossu (from apple
15:27 tlockley i have them already
15:27 tlockley i am canabalizing the xeons from the xserve
15:27 Cprossu yes but you said the most expensive was the mobo
15:27 tlockley yah, the xserve was free
15:27 Cprossu just out of curiosity
15:27 Cprossu why not wire up the fans on a seperate controller
15:27 Cprossu like manual
15:27 tlockley proprietary apple BS
15:28 Cprossu that won't stop you
15:28 tlockley if you mess with the fans they just default to warp speed
15:28 Cprossu so then control all the fans
15:28 tlockley not sure how
15:29 tlockley plus i also pan on turning it from a server hidden in the basement to a desktop machine
15:30 Cprossu tlockley http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998092
15:30 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - Scythe KQ02-SL Kaze Q12 12-Channel Fan Controller for 5.25" bay, Silver Color
15:31 Sgt_Lemming tlockley http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182158 <--- Micro-Atx board? :-P
15:31 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - SUPERMICRO MBD-X7DCA-L-O Micro ATX Server Motherboard Dual LGA 771 Intel 5100 DDR2 667
15:31 Cprossu what?!?!
15:31 Cprossu oh lol
15:32 Sgt_Lemming they are actually slightly larger than m-ATX though
15:32 tlockley I think i like that better if only for the dedicated x8 slots so i have a propper place to put the fibrechannel card
15:32 tlockley NP i am getting a 4u rack case
15:33 Sgt_Lemming as mATX spec is 9.6"² whereas it's 10"²
15:33 Sgt_Lemming seriously, just get a full atx board
15:33 Sgt_Lemming if you have an atx case, why limit yourself?
15:33 tlockley I think I am because I am gonna canabalise all the servers i have left in my house
15:34 wannabe1987 50% defragged, running at 20*C :D
15:34 tlockley gonna put the 6channel PCI-X raid card from my dell or the sas card that i have in along with the FC card
15:34 tlockley more storage than I know what to do with
15:36 tlockley and eventually if i actually pull this off I am going to replace the $40 graphics card with one of those ATI EyeFinity 6 display cards
15:37 Sgt_Lemming http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813151219 <--- just buy one of those, you know you want too
15:37 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - TYAN S8812WGM3NR MEB Server Motherboard Quad Socket G34 AMD SR5690 DDR3 1333
15:37 tlockley just looking at that
15:37 tlockley quad 12core opterons
15:37 tlockley fun
15:38 wannabe1987 its altering white stuff and sun....
15:38 yNos keep it over there!
15:39 * wannabe1987 sends it to yNos
15:40 * wannabe1987 keeps the sun, sends you the snow/white stuff
15:41 Cprossu lol
15:42 astro73|alice hello
15:42 tlockley i just kinda wish my dell powervault had a PCI-e slot
15:43 tlockley hey astro
15:43 angy-away hy astro
15:43 astro73|alice hello tlockley
15:43 astro73|alice howdy angry
15:43 astro73|alice *angy
15:43 astro73|alice >.>
15:43 angy-away how's your corner of the world?
15:43 angy-away =)
15:44 astro73|alice quiet
15:44 astro73|alice chilling at kendall
15:44 angy-away I'm debating buying or not portal2
15:44 tlockley the single player is fun but long and co-op is great once
15:45 tlockley then it just gets tedious bacuse you eventually just drag the other person along
15:45 wannabe1987 ITS COLD OUT THERE
15:46 astro73|alice portal 2 is awesome
15:46 tlockley ^ agreed
15:46 astro73|alice destroying the laws of physics is always a good time
15:47 tlockley i just can no longer play co-op
15:47 astro73|alice how's the DLC?
15:47 tlockley dunno. bought it for xbox just so I could play co-op with my friend then i went about beating the single player
15:48 Cprossu I really enjoyed the single player
15:48 tlockley i plan to rebuy for pc when it goes on super steam sale
15:48 tlockley me too especially the cave johnson levels
15:48 Cprossu I really couldn't tell you my fav part..
15:49 Cprossu though if I really had to pick one moment that was hillarious
15:49 Cprossu the part where glados opens the room up with the grass in it and tempts you with a deer.
15:49 Cprossu heheheeh
15:49 Cprossu good moment.
15:50 tlockley yep
15:50 wannabe1987 fuck.  the photo i want/need is on my parents external that does not work, will cost $900 to get all photos off it o.o
15:50 * Cprossu tries not to mention any real spoilers
15:51 Cprossu why wannabe1987??
15:51 tlockley is the drive dead or just unaccessable?
15:51 Cprossu just get a $20 usb cable?
15:51 wannabe1987 dead.
15:51 wannabe1987 dead dead dead dead dead
15:52 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812104062
15:52 wannabe1987 tried the freezer trick too :(
15:52 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - COOLMAX CD-350-Combo SATA & IDE to USB2.0 Converter w/ One Touch Data Backup Function
15:52 Cprossu did you remove it from the external casing wannabe1987????
15:52 wannabe1987 don't know, i didn't do it.... livefiretj did
15:52 Cprossu because it could be a power supply isssue on the external casing
15:52 wannabe1987 it was making bad noises before it died
15:53 Cprossu who the heck is livefiretj?
15:53 wannabe1987 and my parents (stupid stupid stupid) weren't using it as backup, they put ALLLLLL the photos there
15:53 Cprossu .seen livefiretg
15:53 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen livefiretg around.
15:53 wannabe1987 my x boyfriend.... drew?
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15:53 Cprossu oh ok.
15:53 wannabe1987 the realllly freaking tall guy that came to the lab with me once or twice
15:53 Cprossu with the charger
15:53 Cprossu ?
15:53 wannabe1987 yep
15:53 Cprossu oh ok.
15:56 yNos Ok
15:56 yNos heading down to tgg
15:56 yNos wish me luck
15:56 * yNos puts pants on
15:56 wannabe1987 don't die!!!!!
15:57 wannabe1987 its snowing now :(
15:57 * wannabe1987 sendds some to ynos
15:57 Cprossu good luck yNos
15:57 Cprossu .tfw 85021
15:57 BotSteve 61°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
15:59 wannabe1987 3.14 backwards is PIE.  o.O
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16:03 BotSteve wannabe1987: remind me to finish FAFSA (chrome)
16:04 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
16:04 BotSteve Happy to help, wannabe1987
16:06 wannabe1987 hey look, sun
16:06 Cprossu BotSteve: remind test to not work
16:06 wannabe1987 Cprossu you have to use .in
16:07 Cprossu woo!
16:07 Cprossu no I am aware
16:07 wannabe1987 ok
16:07 Cprossu I always am looking for wildcards or things that make no sense though
16:07 Cprossu thanks BotSteve=P
16:07 BotSteve Happy to help, Cprossu
16:08 wannabe1987 :p
16:08 Cprossu ^ for an instance
16:08 angy-away cookie makes no sense
16:08 angy-away =)
16:08 Cprossu thanks BotSteve~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()
16:08 BotSteve Happy to help, Cprossu
16:08 Cprossu thanks BotSteve~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()~!@#$%^&*()cookie
16:08 BotSteve Happy to help, Cprossu
16:08 wannabe1987 ...
16:08 Sgt_Lemming ...
16:08 dbshortwave ....
16:09 wannabe1987 .....
16:09 dbshortwave ......
16:09 Sgt_Lemming ...---...
16:09 * Cprossu takes a bow
16:09 angy-away ¡!
16:09 dbshortwave LOL
16:09 Sgt_Lemming ²³
16:09 wannabe1987 i! to you too!
16:09 angy-away
16:09 astro73|alice cprossu, if you're bored, could you go to #tgg-bots and beat on astro73-bot for me? It's got a new experimental data store
16:09 Sgt_Lemming O_°
16:09 angy-away
16:09 wannabe1987 .tfw jenison mi
16:09 BotSteve 36°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND SNOWING IN Jenison, MI!  'Its time for a vacation.'
16:09 Cprossu I will when I get back to phoenix
16:09 wannabe1987 INFINITY
16:09 wannabe1987 and beyond
16:10 Cprossu .tfw porn capitol of the worlf
16:10 wannabe1987 astro73|alice do what to the bot?
16:10 dbshortwave 8∞8∞8∞8∞8∞8∞8∞8∞8∞8∞8∞8∞'
16:10 BotSteve IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/tfw.py", line 32, in tfw)
16:10 angy-away so he uses mercurial now, no more git?
16:10 astro73|alice wannabe: beat on it. Try and break it
16:10 wannabe1987 oooo
16:10 astro73|alice see how robust it is
16:11 wannabe1987 what does it know?
16:11 wannabe1987 everything botsteve does?
16:11 astro73|alice all the same code, but not the same data
16:11 wannabe1987 ok
16:11 astro73|alice remind, tell, and seen are different stores
16:11 wannabe1987 it doesn't say hi
16:12 astro73|alice hi botsteve
16:12 BotSteve Cheers astro73|alice!
16:12 astro73|alice hm
16:12 astro73|alice weird
16:12 astro73|alice must be something with the regex
16:12 wannabe1987 intggbots
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16:16 astro73|alice ok, off to class
16:16 angy-away have a nice day
16:19 wannabe1987 bye
16:20 dbshortwave have a good one
16:20 Sgt_Lemming hmmmm.... coffee...
16:20 Sgt_Lemming considering going and making some
16:20 Sgt_Lemming but effort...
16:20 wannabe1987 bring me some
16:20 dbshortwave http://www.christophertitus.com/
16:20 Sgt_Lemming pay for the airfare and SURE!
16:20 BotSteve Title: Christopher Titus.com - The Neverlution is Coming 2011!
16:20 dbshortwave id vote for him lol
16:20 wannabe1987 i'll pay in monopoly money :D
16:21 Sgt_Lemming so long as you can convince the airline to accept it wannabe1987
16:21 wannabe1987 lol ok
16:21 Sgt_Lemming methinks you might need to take a forklift along to carry it.... and then leave the forklift with them
16:21 Cprossu wannabe1987: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-K6fyEm5T_QY/ToHiB1eHMFI/AAAAAAAAEQ4/LEjqDMq4OjU/monopoly%2Bmoney.jpg
16:22 wannabe1987 see?
16:22 dbshortwave omg
16:22 dbshortwave lol thats awesome
16:22 wannabe1987 mhm
16:22 wannabe1987 cj said omg
16:22 Cheezmo_Away wait, are those the new bill colours to be?
16:24 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banknotes_of_the_Australian_dollar#Current_series_.28polymer.29 <--- may as well be monopoly money
16:24 BotSteve Title: Banknotes of the Australian dollar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:25 Cheezmo_Away ever looked at canadian dollars too? :P
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16:28 angy-away hello Experimentonomen
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16:31 Ponko hey everyone
16:32 * Cprossu wonders if yNos made it to the lab
16:32 wannabe1987 ponko!
16:32 wannabe1987 its snowing
16:34 angy-away Hi P'ky! How's UK?
16:34 Ponko it's alright not to exciting
16:35 angy-away it's UK =)
16:36 Ponko lol
16:37 angy-away I have to include UK in my next vacation plans as well though
16:40 Cprossu hmmm
16:41 Ponko well angy-away don't come during the winter lol
16:41 angy I like winters =) when there is snow
16:43 Ponko well the winter over here aint like that it's just rainy
16:44 angy so I'll do spring
16:44 angy I want to go back to London and Wlaes
16:44 angy Wales
16:44 Cprossu good news everyone. yNos did make it to the lab safe and sound.
16:45 * angy fondles Seroster
16:45 Seroster '-'
16:45 Seroster My ass hurts.
16:45 angy not my fault!
16:46 Ponko lol
16:46 Seroster Sadly it isnt
16:46 Seroster Got my insane polish "OUT N RUN IN FOREST" gym teacher
16:47 Seroster AIGHT! BARBELLS
16:47 angy I'm glad I did not had any sport classes for the last 7 years
16:48 Seroster 7.5 kilos on each side, bench press, squatting, and all kinds of murderous things
16:48 Seroster Session 1 20 reps
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16:48 Seroster session 2 30reps session 3 50reps
16:48 angy you still alive?
16:48 Seroster Sadly yes
16:49 Seroster ...I did it with a broken damn rib too
16:49 Cprossu hey ajprog_laptop tgg has internet again?
16:49 angy that's part of the fun
16:49 wannabe1987 OMG SHES STRIPPPPPING in the commons
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16:49 Seroster Biceps triceps breast back thighs ancles stomach
16:49 wannabe1987 ankles*
16:50 Cprossu indeed it does. yay
16:50 angy I have other ways to exercise stomach =)
16:51 Seroster So yeah. I think I should have gone for a bit less weight
16:51 angy no, you went MANLY!
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16:52 Seroster .g stupid hurts
16:52 BotSteve Seroster: https://stupidhurts.us/
16:52 angy and now have a perforated lung
16:52 wannabe1987 CJ thinks he's naked w/o his hat
16:52 Cprossu o_O
16:53 Cprossu well lates all
16:53 angy by Cprossu
16:53 wannabe1987 fly well
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17:05 Sgt_Lemming ok, slightly weird one
17:06 Sgt_Lemming it feels like I have burnt the tip of my right middle finget
17:06 Sgt_Lemming finger*
17:06 Sgt_Lemming but I have't done anything in the last 24 hours which could have burnt it...
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17:06 tlockley hello again
17:07 angy welcome back tlockley
17:07 tlockley tks angy.
17:07 tlockley now if only Textual supported SASL
17:16 Sgt_Lemming yay, my ginormous torrent is doing some half decent speed
17:16 Sgt_Lemming still going to take a week at current speed....
17:17 tlockley whatcha gettin
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17:23 tlockley very good
17:27 SparkyProjects Is that snow in GR ?
17:27 Ponko Sparky on stream?
17:27 SparkyProjects Yep
17:27 Ponko hmm one sec
17:28 * Ponko turns the stream on
17:28 Seroster wannabe-fish,
17:28 Ponko kelly it's noon there right
17:30 Ponko stone me Sparky that IS snow
17:30 Ponko or sleet
17:30 Ponko sorry hail
17:30 Ponko is it hale or hail
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17:31 Ponko yes that is most definately snow
17:32 Seroster Erm
17:32 Seroster She uses the wannabe1986 as her default, right?
17:33 Ponko yep
17:33 Ponko but up a year
17:33 Seroster seven right
17:33 Seroster My bad
17:33 Ponko lol yeah
17:34 Seroster BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 A while back you asked about changing elements in some kind of oven, right?  This was uploaded by espares today, and is pretty useful if you are ever changing an oven heater. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3GRS0nLHW0&amp;feature=feedu
17:34 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
17:34 BotSteve Title: How to replace a dual cooker element in an electric cooker - YouTube
17:37 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXAOJqvF8gI
17:37 BotSteve Title: Original Mortal Kombat 1 Theme / Opening Music - YouTube
17:37 Ponko that's a good feature that :)
17:38 Seroster Yeah
17:38 Seroster It was born from rick rolling
17:39 Ponko yeah when someone comes on and just sends a youtube link you have no idea
17:39 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, gotta love the sprite based animation
17:39 Ponko with MK? lol
17:40 Ponko i love the motion capture of it lol
17:41 Sgt_Lemming eh
17:41 Sgt_Lemming still Tekken > MK
17:43 Ponko you've gotta love the Johnny Cage ending just the last sentence of it lol went on to make the motion picture Mortal Kombat and its many successful sequels
17:43 Ponko well the first one was successful it was just the others we're a steaming pile of Tottenham Hotspur
17:43 Sgt_Lemming bbiab
17:44 Ponko o_O eh lol
17:44 Ponko were*
17:45 Ponko i have to beg the differ on that
17:45 Ponko and only because i rarely played tekken
18:01 Ponko someone get the crash cart the chat has died
18:04 Monkeh Clear!
18:04 Monkeh *BZZT*
18:04 Monkeh Ponko: He's dead, Jim.
18:04 Ponko KHAAAAAAAAAAN
18:06 SparkyProjects Ponko, is your 'footie footie' still running ? :D
18:06 Seroster YES!
18:06 Seroster Ringhals 1 is going online!
18:06 Ponko lol no
18:07 Ponko can i have the link again please Sparky lol
18:07 SparkyProjects http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/footy/
18:07 BotSteve Title: footy - Weebl's Stuff
18:08 angy hum... I think I miss click when getting the last key of windows
18:08 angy FJ49B-W3KHQ-FJYYJ-FRMGC-3Y37D
18:08 angy whoops :p
18:09 angy bonus point to any one that can install using this one
18:09 Monkeh angy: If it's for Vista7, who uses real keys anyway?
18:09 Sgt_Lemming xp64 key?
18:10 angy I think I'm not mistaken when saying that no one on that chat got the system to install that version of windows
18:10 Sgt_Lemming why what system does it need?
18:12 Monkeh I'm guessing it's an NT key for Alpha or something.
18:13 Monkeh angy: Come on, out with it
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18:14 angy that's a key for a very specific montecito platform
18:14 angy or tukwila
18:15 wannabe1987 hi
18:15 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
18:15 BotSteve At 17:34Z, Seroster asked me to tell wannabe1987 A while back you asked about changing elements in some kind of oven, right?  This was uploaded by espares today, and is pretty useful if you are ever changing an oven heater. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3GRS0nLHW0&amp;feature=feedu
18:15 Monkeh angy: No good for a Madison then?
18:15 Sgt_Lemming ah, itanium
18:15 wannabe1987 o.O Seroster was helpful for a moment! :P  thanks Seroster
18:15 angy not even a chance Monkeh
18:15 Monkeh angy: Didn't realise they were that specific.
18:16 angy you need the exact configuration for what the image was forged to to be able to run it
18:16 Seroster wannabe1987, I am actually a pretty nice guy, unless it amuses me to be mean, or someone deserves it =P
18:16 wannabe1987 lol ok
18:16 Monkeh angy: Well, I've got the right arch, so I'm probably closer than the majority of the channel. :P
18:16 angy you don't really have the right arch
18:16 angy you have rev1, not revé
18:16 angy rev2
18:17 Monkeh angy: It's an Itanic.
18:17 angy itanium
18:17 Monkeh angy: No, definitely Itanic.
18:17 angy but itanium and itanium 2 are not directly cross compatible
18:17 Monkeh angy: Yes, this IS an Itanium 2.
18:17 Monkeh angy: Merced is Itanium. Madison is Itanium 2.
18:17 angy madison is not a 2
18:17 angy it's a 1.5
18:18 Monkeh They call it Itanium 2.
18:18 angy it can't run itanium2 optimized code, I say it' not itanium2
18:19 * wannabe1987 is sick and tired of people asking "are you okay"
18:19 wannabe1987 I"M NOT OK and WON'T be
18:20 Monkeh angy: You mean it can't run code for a late-generation Itanium 2.
18:20 Monkeh angy: Which I suppose were the only ones actually usably fast, so.. :P
18:20 westmi you'll be alright :)
18:20 angy I place itanium2 at the montecito
18:21 Monkeh angy: I place Itanium 2 where Intel called it Itanium 2.
18:21 angy never trust intel on architecture release
18:21 Monkeh Which is the only sane way.
18:21 Monkeh You want to get specific, call it Montecito.
18:22 Sgt_Lemming there tick/tock cycle now is pretty good
18:22 Sgt_Lemming but wish they would stop changing sockets every freaking time >_<
18:22 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: How else will they get you to buy new chipsets?
18:22 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: And new heatsinks. And new RAM.
18:23 Sgt_Lemming err, the 1155 and 1156 sockets use the same heatsinks and ram
18:23 angy and do the same thing, they just provide a ``legacy'' mode that you which you had get a new motherboard
18:23 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: This is true.
18:23 Sgt_Lemming 1366 uses the same heatsinks, but adds a ram channel
18:24 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: 1366 fixings are different as I recall.
18:24 angy today any heatsink can do all sockets
18:24 Sgt_Lemming not true at all
18:24 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: 1155/6 is 75mm, 1366 is 80 as I recall.
18:24 Sgt_Lemming lots of heatsinks are multi-socket true
18:24 Sgt_Lemming but just as many are single socket
18:25 Monkeh They're starting not to provide brackets with them now
18:25 Sgt_Lemming and very few do ALL possible sockets
18:25 Monkeh You have to buy kits.
18:25 angy you don't really go to single socket when you want something better than stock though
18:25 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yep, 1366 is 80mm.
18:26 wannabe1987 ITS A MONKEH!
18:26 Monkeh wannabe1987: Gimme banana.
18:26 Sgt_Lemming angy, most of the high end ones do multi-sockets true
18:26 * wannabe1987 gives banananananana
18:26 Sgt_Lemming but stuff like 1u heatsinks tend to be single socket
18:26 angy not really
18:27 angy most of the 1RU I got are multisocket
18:27 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Certainly for Intel stuff one bracket can and does do all, so there's no need for that.
18:27 Sgt_Lemming err, I don't have a single multi socket 1u heatsink...
18:27 angy you did not search very well then
18:28 angy most of the one I have can do 604/771/C34/C36/F
18:28 angy I think it's rather multi-socket
18:28 angy s/C36/C32/
18:33 Sgt_Lemming all those sockets you pretty much the same mounts
18:34 angy not really 604 and J
18:34 angy there have quite different located holes
18:37 angy not to mention that C32/C34 don't even have holes if I remember correctly
18:37 Sgt_Lemming they are all fairly similar
18:37 Sgt_Lemming a lot close than lga 771 is to 1155/6
18:38 angy socket J is workstation/server 1155/6 is mainstream also
18:38 Sgt_Lemming well aware of that
18:39 angy you can't rea/nick angy-away
18:39 angy ><
18:39 angy-away you can't really compare workstation & mainstream...
18:39 angy-away on that, I'm gone
18:41 Sgt_Lemming http://img03.taobaocdn.com/bao/uploaded/i3/T1W9h6XdJAXXcjWoIZ_033730.jpg <--- *JISM*
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18:44 SuperPhosphate Hello
18:44 Sgt_Lemming lo
18:44 henix_ Hi. I'm not from michigan
18:44 SuperPhosphate whats happening?
18:45 Sgt_Lemming neither am I
18:45 Sgt_Lemming not alot
18:45 SuperPhosphate me either
18:45 Sgt_Lemming watching a movie and doing some research
18:45 SuperPhosphate cool. Interesting research?
18:45 Sgt_Lemming not amazingly so
18:45 Sgt_Lemming just researching parts for a project I am working on
18:45 SuperPhosphate what topic may i ask?
18:46 Sgt_Lemming electronics components
18:46 SuperPhosphate nice
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18:47 tgg|yNos YAY!!
18:47 SuperPhosphate Im working on electronic components in fabric
18:47 Sgt_Lemming lo tgg|yNos
18:47 tgg|yNos internet is happy again
18:47 Sgt_Lemming soft circuits SuperPhosphate
18:47 SuperPhosphate yes
18:47 tgg|yNos but anyone who's dhcp dies will be crying
18:47 tgg|yNos until we get everything moved.
18:47 tgg|yNos cprossu around?
18:47 Sgt_Lemming what you planning on doing with em SuperPhosphate?
18:47 tgg|yNos pwd
18:48 tgg|yNos sry
18:48 SuperPhosphate I want to make a sci fi type  wall hanging with  a control panel and with LEDs and things
18:49 Sgt_Lemming any particular reason for soft circuits though?
18:49 SuperPhosphate they just look cool lol
18:49 SuperPhosphate I read about them last week
18:49 Sgt_Lemming kk
18:50 SuperPhosphate though you are correct, I don;t need them for this project
18:50 Sgt_Lemming where you been looking at getting them from?
18:50 SuperPhosphate Dont know yet
18:50 SuperPhosphate Im in the Netherlands
18:50 Sgt_Lemming sparkfun has lots of them
18:50 Sgt_Lemming and they ship international
18:50 Sgt_Lemming might be able to find a local distributor
18:50 SuperPhosphate ok
18:52 SuperPhosphate :-)
18:52 SuperPhosphate I just want a bit to tinker with first
18:52 Sgt_Lemming played with arduinos before?
18:52 SuperPhosphate no
18:53 SuperPhosphate have you?
18:53 Sgt_Lemming I'd suggest getting one and a starter kit and play with that first
18:53 SuperPhosphate ok
18:54 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/BorkedElectronics#5649595653256834898 <--- you might say I've played with one or two :-P
18:54 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming Dixon - Borked Electr...
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18:55 SuperPhosphate ok
18:57 SuperPhosphate Are most people here into electronics?
18:57 Sgt_Lemming nope
18:57 Sgt_Lemming everyone has their own interests
18:57 SuperPhosphate computers?
18:57 Sgt_Lemming electronics is just one of mine
18:57 SuperPhosphate cool
18:57 Sgt_Lemming again nope, :-P
18:58 Sgt_Lemming http://oi42.tinypic.com/294gzmx.jpg <--- something I did recently
18:58 SuperPhosphate I love gadgets and gismos and things
18:58 SuperPhosphate nice! What does it do?
18:58 Sgt_Lemming Giant 7 Digit display driver
18:59 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/BikePics#5505040757965338130 <--- my other love
18:59 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming Dixon - Bike Pics
18:59 SuperPhosphate nice bike
19:00 Sgt_Lemming that's an old pic too
19:00 Sgt_Lemming been upgraded quite a bit since then
19:00 SuperPhosphate Im into diorama building
19:00 Sgt_Lemming about $4500 worth now
19:00 SuperPhosphate wow
19:02 SuperPhosphate you must be seriously fit then
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19:02 lwq_laptop hi
19:03 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I have the following messages for you:
19:03 BotSteve At 03:08Z, dr_jkl asked me to tell lwq_laptop you should be focusing on school at school and not the website :)
19:03 lwq_laptop Botsteve: tell dr_jkl that i sometimes have a free period durring that class
19:03 BotSteve lwq_laptop: I'll pass that on when dr_jkl is around.
19:04 lwq_laptop so i found out that my airsoft gun is made cheaply enough that the safety woulnt stay on fire when i want it to
19:04 Ponko lee my man
19:05 lwq_laptop morning ponko
19:05 lwq_laptop well afternoon
19:05 Ponko lol
19:06 lwq_laptop if only i could get this spring to get off i could get it working again probally
19:08 lwq_laptop damn this gun...
19:09 Ponko lol
19:09 Ponko you need to come over here man
19:09 lwq_laptop i detached the ation somehow
19:09 lwq_laptop why?
19:09 Ponko hang out and chill
19:09 lwq_laptop oh....that i want to do...but yeah...i cant
19:09 Ponko lol it's cool
19:10 lwq_laptop ik
19:11 lwq_laptop ok now for reassembly
19:12 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, peanut butter
19:12 Sgt_Lemming REAL peanut butter even
19:12 Ponko with real jam?
19:12 Sgt_Lemming hells no
19:12 lwq_laptop mmm home made jelly or jammm
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19:13 Sgt_Lemming just peanut butter by itself
19:14 Sgt_Lemming hey yNos, do me a favour, ask boden if wants lots of different vegemite flavoured things
19:14 Sgt_Lemming he
19:14 Sgt_Lemming getting together a package for you guys, and thought he might like it
19:15 Ponko lol
19:16 Ponko Marmite down under :P
19:16 Sgt_Lemming nope
19:16 Sgt_Lemming marmite is a different thing
19:16 SuperPhosphate marmite is icky
19:16 SuperPhosphate vegemite spreads better
19:16 Ponko SuperPhospate you aussie too?
19:16 Sgt_Lemming tastes completely different as well
19:16 SuperPhosphate yep :-)
19:17 SuperPhosphate though dont live there any more
19:17 Ponko well then OF COURSE you'd like Vegemite
19:17 SuperPhosphate We have to like it lol
19:17 Ponko lol
19:17 Ponko reminds me of the song
19:18 Ponko "i said do you speak my langauage."
19:18 Seroster ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywmfnz7sD98&amp;feature=related
19:18 Ponko "and he just smiled and gave me a vegemite sandwich"
19:18 BotSteve Title: F-it Dude, Let's go bowling.mov - YouTube
19:18 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeG-hNXXy6I
19:18 BotSteve Title: Down Under - Men At Work (HQ Audio) - YouTube
19:18 Ponko hahaha :P
19:20 SuperPhosphate Its so sat, the courtcase about the song!
19:20 SuperPhosphate sad*
19:21 Ponko what was it about
19:21 Ponko vegemite?
19:22 SuperPhosphate no they say they stole the flute tune in the song from someone else
19:22 Ponko really?!?!
19:22 Ponko wow
19:22 SuperPhosphate I think its just all about money
19:23 Sgt_Lemming "He says that when the song was originally written in 1978, it did not have the musical passage in question, and that it was not until two years later, during a jam rehearsal session, that flautist Greg Ham improvised the riff, perhaps subconsciously recalling "Kookaburra"."
19:23 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_Under_(song)#Copyright_lawsuit
19:23 BotSteve Title: Down Under (song) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:23 lwq_laptop i think i got the gun fixed
19:23 lwq_laptop idk...
19:24 Ponko Sgt_Lemming isnt Kookaburra a maker of cricket equipment
19:25 Sgt_Lemming there is a brand of equipment called that yes
19:25 SuperPhosphate It seems that the court case has only appeared since the Kookaburra song deeds were in  a family members hands :-(
19:25 Ponko yeah i remember getting one of their balls smash me in the knee
19:26 Sgt_Lemming it's a bird though
19:26 Ponko yeah i know that lol
19:26 Ponko but when you're wearing pads and all the rest of it getting a  cork ball in the knee hurts like hell
19:26 * Sgt_Lemming nods
19:27 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Albinok.jpg <--- wow
19:27 BotSteve Title: File:Albinok.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:27 Sgt_Lemming albino kookaburra
19:27 Ponko ok
19:27 SuperPhosphate nice
19:29 lwq_laptop ok...airsoft guns fixed
19:30 lwq_laptop yay...i can go shoot things now
19:30 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXmeayaHh4U <--- awesome flute player
19:30 BotSteve Title: Beatboxing Flute "Hard Knock Life" - YouTube
19:32 lwq_laptop i got a 2litter bottle full of bbs
19:32 Sgt_Lemming BB machine gun time
19:33 Sgt_Lemming other wise known as a pie and an air compressor
19:33 lwq_laptop no
19:33 lwq_laptop i bought all of these for 10 bucks
19:33 lwq_laptop they .12g
19:35 Sgt_Lemming that guy, Greg Patillo, is a professor of music and spends a lot of his time busking on street corners and in the subway
19:38 Ponko hmmm what reason would i want a real gun other than they're awesome?
19:39 Sgt_Lemming rapid fire hole punching
19:39 Ponko well the police would frown upon that here
19:40 Ponko any H&K would do me fine
19:43 Ponko well i can get an FC
19:43 Sgt_Lemming only H&K I would really like is a WSG2000 or a G11
19:43 Sgt_Lemming OICW would be kinda fun too
19:43 Ponko ooooo G11 Nice
19:44 Ponko the WSG2000 i think looks SLIGHTLY like the sniper rifle in Halo
19:49 Sgt_Lemming g11 is the worlds fastest firing assault rifle
19:49 Sgt_Lemming in 3 round burst it has a cyclic rate of 2000rpm
19:49 lwq1996 gah...youtube changed
19:50 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n6JWCEmCgD8
19:50 BotSteve Title: H&K G11 - YouTube
19:51 * Ponko *nods*
19:52 Ponko they also used that gun in Syphon Filter from 2 onwards
19:52 Sgt_Lemming all three bullets leave the barrel before the gun starts to recoil :-D
19:52 Ponko yep it's deadly
19:53 Ponko but the G3 in Syphon Filter was over powered i think can you pierce a flak jacket with one in reall life?
19:53 Sgt_Lemming I love the sound when they are doing three round bursts
19:53 Sgt_Lemming kinda sounds like it's farting :-P
19:53 Ponko what in SF or the video
19:53 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0va83PkaeU&amp;feature=related <--- that video
19:53 BotSteve Title: G11 - YouTube
19:54 ajprog_laptop angy you in?
19:54 BotSteve ajprog_laptop: I have the following messages for you:
19:54 BotSteve At 04:09Z, Cprossu asked me to tell ajprog_laptop hahahahahahah @ captains blog
19:54 Ponko lol
19:57 Ponko ok which is better for guns USA or Germany & Canada?
19:57 Ponko sorry Germany or Canada?
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19:58 Ponko hahaha wow perfect timing
19:58 Katemonster ...
19:58 Katemonster .log
19:58 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
19:58 Ponko we're talking about guns and you turn up lol
19:59 wannabe1987 how was your morning kate?
19:59 * Katemonster decides to not participate in the gun talk
19:59 Katemonster productive, for once.
20:00 wannabe1987 col
20:00 Ponko Sgt_Lemming i'm loving the stupid comments some leave the detailed ones are good but the ones mentioning CoD are just prats
20:00 wannabe1987 coo.l
20:00 * Sgt_Lemming nods
20:00 Katemonster since when does botsteve show the titles of youtube links?
20:00 wannabe1987 yesterday?
20:00 Katemonster and does he do that for xtube too?
20:00 Ponko hahahahaha
20:00 Katemonster :O
20:00 wannabe1987 maybe
20:00 wannabe1987 he does i for webpages
20:00 wannabe1987 try it
20:00 Ponko don't try that on here
20:01 Ponko LMAO
20:01 Katemonster i'd try it but i don't want to be banned.  the bot needs to be active in the NSFW channel.
20:01 Ponko oh god lol
20:01 Sgt_Lemming Katemonster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcEvBwMKZ9s&amp;feature=related :-P
20:01 BotSteve Title: Largest Caliber Rifle .950 JDJ - YouTube
20:01 * wannabe1987 is uninformed apparently
20:01 * wannabe1987 is apathetic today
20:01 Ponko do you know what that site is
20:01 wannabe1987 now i do
20:01 wannabe1987 pr0n
20:01 Katemonster LOL
20:01 Ponko LMAO
20:02 Katemonster amateur porn, no less.
20:02 Katemonster much more personal.
20:02 Ponko anyway
20:02 Katemonster anyway
20:02 wannabe1987 .
20:02 Ponko if this convo is to continue NSFW it shall continue
20:03 Katemonster all things being equal i don't really want to go into the NSFW channel from a school terminal.
20:03 Ponko haha good point lol
20:03 wannabe1987 lol
20:03 Katemonster .....
20:03 Ponko no stories today from me anyway
20:04 Katemonster not that that stops some of the other people in the CAD lab from surfing AdultFriendFinder.
20:04 Katemonster i swear.  some people's children
20:04 Ponko haha lol
20:04 Ponko why AFF just go out and talk to a girl
20:04 Katemonster that
20:04 Katemonster very much that.
20:05 Sgt_Lemming Katemonster, when I worked in the net cafe we had to kick out a number of people for looking at porn or jerking off
20:05 Ponko lol
20:05 * Katemonster thinks online dating/matchmaking sites are the biggest load of bullshit ever
20:05 Cheezmo_Away Katemonster, most are
20:05 Ponko i've been on one but it's just crap
20:06 Cheezmo_Away they say you have new matches here and there, but it's just newly registered sluts and/or douchebags
20:06 Ponko ok i'll have to take my next statement to NSFW
20:06 Sgt_Lemming when it was one old guy on his own, and he immediately went and sat in the corner, first thing I did was open the screen watch utility
20:06 Cheezmo_Chipping now to go solder together a Honda ECU for a lazy car tuner :3
20:06 Ponko lol
20:07 Cheezmo_Chipping $ <3
20:07 * Katemonster needs an Aston Martin DB4 engine
20:07 Ponko Cheezmo_Chipping i'd love to do that but i have poor hand eye coordination
20:07 wannabe1987 why
20:07 Katemonster itsasecret!
20:07 Ponko which is funny because i play Quarterback
20:07 wannabe1987 ok  ood luck\
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20:08 Ponko well Kate i don't see the point in paying for something like that anyway the dating site thing and all
20:09 Ponko that's as much as i can tone it down for here anyway
20:10 wannabe1987 my aunt found the bestest husband ever on eharmony
20:11 Katemonster same, actually.  good for them.  but that doesn't mean i don't think eharmony is a f'ing stupid
20:11 Katemonster idea
20:12 Ponko my thoughts exactly kate
20:15 Katemonster sadface that no one makes a big bore kit for the DB4
20:15 Ponko lol
20:16 Ponko kate would you trust me with a gun
20:16 Katemonster no.
20:16 Ponko why>
20:16 Katemonster how much do you weigh?
20:16 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=fvwp&amp;v=TPFw5Py1oY4 <--- they are bitching about a pump action shotgun not resetting the trigger if you pump the slide with the trigger pulled in.... not seeing why that is a problem?
20:17 BotSteve Title: Kel Tec KSG Shotgun fail - YouTube
20:17 Ponko 200lbs
20:17 angy-away Kate! LovelyKate!
20:17 Sgt_Lemming you shouldn't be holding the trigget in with the slide back!
20:17 Katemonster angy!
20:17 Katemonster yeah i trust you about 4'
20:17 Ponko 6'1"
20:17 angy-away how's WA Kate?
20:18 Katemonster Sgt_Lemming: the point was that the gun wasn't recocking
20:18 Katemonster they fixed that though
20:18 Ponko Kate you trust me about 4 inches what lol
20:18 Seroster Kate!
20:18 Seroster HIII KATE
20:19 Seroster And I thought you went to bed you french bastard
20:19 wannabe1987 OMNI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
20:19 angy-away nope, still in my office
20:19 Katemonster on any other modern pump gun you can pull and hold the trigger, cycle the action, let go the trigger and pull again and it will fire.  on the prototype KSG you could pull and hold the trigger, cycle the action, let go the trigger, pull it again, and nothing would happen.
20:19 Seroster DAMNIT
20:19 Katemonster ponko: i trust you about as far as i can throw you, which is probably about 4'.
20:19 Ponko lol
20:19 Katemonster (that's feet, not inches)
20:20 Ponko oh yeah lol
20:20 Ponko that would be 4"
20:20 Cprossu do I has messages?
20:20 Katemonster a little over a meter.  just enough rope to hang yourself with.
20:20 Katemonster :D
20:20 Cprossu nope.
20:20 Ponko OOOOOH damn that was good burn you got any ointment
20:20 Katemonster angy: washington is..... cold, and a little windy.
20:21 Katemonster lol
20:21 Cprossu hey yNos what was the collateral from the power outage?
20:21 Ponko so a normal day
20:21 Katemonster ynos i sawed you in da capitan's blog
20:22 Ponko would you trust me with your football team
20:22 Katemonster ...the seahawks?  that do they have to do with it?
20:22 Ponko tbh i don't want to be anywhere near the Seattle Seahawks
20:23 Katemonster good for you?
20:23 Ponko or the NFC West
20:23 * Katemonster really, really, REALLY doesn't care about football
20:23 Ponko i know
20:23 Katemonster i anti-care about football.
20:23 * Ponko knows this
20:23 * Ponko also wants to know why stream for him is not working
20:24 Ponko kelly are they on because my end says offline
20:24 Sgt_Lemming I always laugh at all the people who go "ZOMG .50 cal fired while standing/kneeling/not lying down!"
20:24 Sgt_Lemming why the frick do you think they have huge muzzle brakes!
20:25 Ponko tbh i like the people who can do a John Rambo/John Matrix
20:25 Ponko hold a M60 and fire with one arm
20:26 Ponko standing up
20:26 Ponko with a look of anger in their eyes
20:26 Katemonster BUT.  i think a DB4 GT engine (which is rare, but there's a company in California that makes all the parts to convert a standard DB4 into a DB4 GT Zagato engine) with a supercharger and dual magneto ignition would make a sweet engine for one of those 90% scale replica Spitfire kits.
20:26 Ponko how much would that cost though
20:27 Katemonster a lot.  a lot a lot.
20:27 Ponko ok how much is ALOT
20:27 Katemonster probably one of those things where if you have to ask then you can't afford it.
20:27 Sgt_Lemming over 9000
20:27 wannabe1987 astro73|mal did you leave that note?
20:27 Katemonster yes, over 9000.  thank you vegita.
20:27 Ponko a bottle of EXPENSIVE Champagne and Sgt_Lemming knows how much that is as 'did' i lol
20:28 Katemonster i just wish it were bigger than 3.7 liter...
20:28 Katemonster hence, someone needs to make a DB4 big bore kit.
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20:30 Katemonster larger pistons and cylinder sleeves; not sure how comfortable i am with just boring out the existing cylinders :/
20:30 * lwq1996 coughs up a lung
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20:30 lwq1996 I WILL NEVER START SMOKING AGAIN
20:30 Ponko oh c'mon really
20:30 Katemonster please don't do that lee.  you're getting blood on the carpet.
20:30 lwq1996 lol
20:31 Ponko .log
20:31 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
20:31 * lwq1996 coughs
20:31 lwq1996 omg that hurts
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20:31 Ponko what?
20:31 angy-away hello injektion
20:32 Katemonster anyway i gtg meet up with kawaiijess.  tty geeks later
20:32 Ponko lee what you smoking
20:32 Ponko later kate
20:32 angy-away bye Lovely Kate
20:32 Katemonster bye angy
20:32 injektion Hey angy-away
20:32 angy-away iOS 5.0.1 takes forever to download!
20:34 angy-away How's georgia today injektion ?
20:35 lwq1996 my god...i remember why i quit smoking....god i will never start that again
20:35 wannabe1987 good
20:35 Ponko lee don't smoke it's not good for you
20:36 lwq1996 i will never start again...and ik
20:36 Ponko get on NSFW
20:36 wannabe1987 no
20:36 Ponko not you
20:37 wannabe1987 good
20:37 Ponko lol
20:37 lwq1996 oh damn
20:37 Ponko what's up mate
20:37 lwq1996 me dying here because of smoking
20:38 injektion angy-away, It's ok
20:38 angy-away =)
20:39 Ponko it's snowing in Green Bay aparently
20:39 angy-away Yay8 snow
20:39 angy-away I'll miss snow a lot I think, and even more exterior ice rink
20:40 wannabe1987 Ponko its snowing HERE
20:40 Ponko yeah i know i saw it on stream a couple of hours ago
20:40 lwq1996 its gonna snow here tonight too
20:40 injektion I was so sick after work yesterday I came home and went to bed
20:41 angy-away you'll soon develop either super powers or cancer
20:41 wannabe1987 lol
20:41 lwq1996 lol
20:44 wannabe1987 so.many.capacitors!
20:44 wannabe1987 and that warning would be cool on a tshirt!
20:45 wannabe1987 i remember hiding in the supply room during ZOMB
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21:01 * angy-away puts a blanket on injektion|nap
21:01 Ponko hmm i looks like him but i doubt it lee
21:01 Ponko it*
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21:04 Ponko TOAST
21:04 Toastdude PONKO
21:04 BotSteve Toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
21:04 angy-away Toasty!
21:04 BotSteve At 12:59Z, yNos asked me to tell Toastdude There are some pretty simple 6 meter AM rigs you can build out there, but if you going to try taking this on as a first project, i'd recommend a CW rig first. you can change a CW rig to an AM rig with a few mods. Do you have your radio ticket yet? do you have a mentor to draw out some pictures/charts to make things a little more clear?
21:04 * angy-away hugs Toastdude
21:04 Toastdude Angy!
21:04 * Toastdude hugs angy
21:04 Ponko angy-away you quoting Mortal Kombat?
21:04 angy-away How's my prefer nom nom?
21:05 angy-away I'm not suer on what P'ky
21:06 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell yNos I'm sorry, I'm a real noob.... I need a licence to listen on the 6m range?
21:06 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
21:06 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
21:06 BotSteve Happy to help, Toastdude
21:07 Ponko .yt Dan Forden Toasty
21:07 BotSteve Ponko: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGwGKLNQkAE
21:07 Ponko there you go angy-away
21:07 angy-away =)
21:10 angy-away Ponko, now the Mortal Kombat specialist
21:11 Ponko lol :P
21:13 wannabe1987 how do you go about asking someone if they'd sponsor tgg?
21:14 wannabe1987 jw
21:15 * wannabe1987 sees sun
21:15 wannabe1987 o.O
21:16 Toastdude It was snowing............. o.O
21:18 Toastdude Lol, I'd love to do all those things on an elevator, wannabe... "You're one of them!" *back away slowly*
21:18 wannabe1987 i'll stand in the corner and meow
21:18 Toastdude And that's what I'll say to you ^
21:18 Toastdude :P
21:19 wannabe1987 ok
21:20 Toastdude Let's go to NYC then.
21:21 wannabe1987 why nyc?
21:21 Toastdude Cause there are lots of elevators there...
21:22 Sgt_Lemming actually iirc the place with the most elevators per capita is either hong kong or tokyo
21:23 Toastdude But NYC is closer...
21:26 Toastdude .tfw 61548
21:26 BotSteve 41°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Metamora, IL!  'Everything's nice butter weather!'
21:28 Sgt_Lemming fucking creepers >_<
21:28 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc brisbane
21:28 BotSteve 22°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Brisbane, AS!  'FUCKING SWEET'
21:33 Ponko Sgt_Lemming you playing Silent hill
21:33 Sgt_Lemming nope
21:33 Ponko oh well a creeper is in that lol
21:33 Sgt_Lemming never played it
21:33 Sgt_Lemming creeper == minecraft
21:33 Ponko ahhhhhhh yes
21:33 Ponko i know of those too
21:33 Ponko lol
21:35 Ponko never played minecraft but i know alot of peeps who do
21:36 wannabe1987 http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/384798_10150451055978126_734388125_10231810_1353584690_n.jpg
21:36 wannabe1987 macintoshII photo
21:39 wannabe1987 if my headphones crackle (they never have before now) does that mean they might die soon? :(
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21:41 masterofmonks wannabe1987: it means most likely that you have an intermittant connection.
21:41 wannabe1987 how?  its plugged in well
21:41 masterofmonks In the wire, or the plug.
21:41 wannabe1987 awwwww :(
21:41 dbshortwave mmm
21:42 masterofmonks Or, it could be in the jack.
21:42 wannabe1987 then i won't be able to use music :(
21:42 wannabe1987 :'(
21:42 wannabe1987 jack has not caused issues before today....
21:42 wannabe1987 i should check w/ ipod
21:42 wannabe1987 not crackling on ipod
21:43 wannabe1987 damn jack
21:43 wannabe1987 its ok theres lady gaga on the ipod currently ::P
21:43 masterofmonks ewww.
21:43 dbshortwave o.o
21:44 dbshortwave heh
21:44 * dbshortwave raises hand "seen that coming"
21:44 wannabe1987 o.O
21:45 masterofmonks .yt if i was your vampire
21:45 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNEdf-fHTM8
21:45 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVi5KT3Flok&amp;feature=related
21:45 BotSteve Title: Making Of Mortal Kombat 3 Part 1 - YouTube
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21:45 angy-away wb (again) tlockley
21:46 wannabe1987 its a tlockley!
21:46 tlockley hey everyone
21:46 Toastdude tlockley!
21:46 tlockley hey Toastdude
21:46 * wannabe1987 listens to the one masterofmonks posted
21:46 Ponko anyone who has played the game at 0:23 on that video will make you lol
21:46 Toastdude wannabe1987: I had the same happen to my compooper... :(
21:46 wannabe1987 so did cj.....
21:47 masterofmonks wannabe1987: take it up to the lab and replace the jack.]
21:47 wannabe1987 when thry like me i will
21:47 wannabe1987 they*
21:47 masterofmonks They don't like you again?
21:48 wannabe1987 never have
21:48 Ponko idk y but make of things are sometimes better than the film
21:49 masterofmonks Ponko: in english?
21:50 Ponko one sec
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21:53 wannabe1987 dbshortwave is this you?  http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386259_260056114047401_244753448911001_759204_698981233_n.jpg
21:53 wannabe1987 "the chicks love me"
21:53 wannabe1987 ?
21:55 Ponko ok you know when you watch a movie right
21:55 masterofmonks Yes.
21:56 Ponko on the dvd of that movie there's a making of in there
21:56 masterofmonks Right...
21:56 lwq1996 im tired
21:57 masterofmonks wannabe1987: what is the jack on?
21:57 Ponko well sometimes that is better than the movie itself
21:57 masterofmonks Ponko: Ah.
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21:57 wannabe1987 toshiba NB205
21:57 masterofmonks How good are your soldering skills?
21:57 wannabe1987 nonexistant
21:59 masterofmonks Know anyone that is good at it?
22:01 wannabe1987 theres a welding class here
22:01 masterofmonks Welding != soldering
22:01 wannabe1987 :shrug:
22:01 wannabe1987 but maybe some know how to solder?
22:02 wannabe1987 astro might know how to solder, but he's in GR
22:02 wannabe1987 but maybe someo fthe gamers ppl know how, idk
22:02 masterofmonks Are you in Kzoo?
22:02 wannabe1987 i'd have to ask but they're getting ready to play shadowrun
22:02 wannabe1987 no, greenville/lakeview
22:02 wannabe1987 north of gr
22:04 * wannabe1987 stopped breathing in teh pool today o.O
22:04 wannabe1987 but my awesome friends noticed i was hacking and pulled me to the edge and i started breathing better
22:05 Toastdude :(
22:05 wannabe1987 ikr
22:06 wannabe1987 i bounced (on my feet) on the btm of the pool and my hand slipped off my nose and water got in
22:06 wannabe1987 and so my throat closed up.
22:06 wannabe1987 (idk why it did that)
22:06 wannabe1987 but yeah
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22:07 Cheezmo_Chipping chipping successful
22:07 Cheezmo_Chipping C:
22:08 Toastdude Don't do that again, wannabe, it's probably not good for you....
22:08 wannabe1987 i now bend my knees underwater to not "bounce" on the bottom
22:10 lwq1996 anyone know where to get notepad++  for linux
22:11 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=notepad%2B%2B+linux
22:11 BotSteve Title: Let me google that for you
22:11 dbshortwave so far
22:11 lwq1996 damn...i was hopping for a dirrect link
22:11 dbshortwave ram = good thing
22:11 Sgt_Lemming seriously dude
22:11 Sgt_Lemming learn to google before asking
22:11 Sgt_Lemming even if you did a .g in here
22:12 lwq1996 i dont like googling because google hates me
22:12 Sgt_Lemming no, you suck at it, that's the problem
22:15 lwq1996 ok...what would notepad++ be considered as...a code writing inviorment?
22:16 Cheezmo I need to get a real soldering iron... butane pencil torch is not cutting it :/
22:16 wannabe1987 yes
22:16 lwq1996 lol
22:16 lwq1996 go get a cheap on from you hardware store
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22:17 lwq1996 make sure its something like 30watts though
22:17 Seroster Crud
22:17 Cheezmo I'd rather go get a decent weller
22:17 Seroster I found half a kilo of ferric metals in my copper bin
22:17 Cheezmo last iron I had was a shit Nexxtech POS from Radio Shanty
22:17 Cheezmo I literally watched the tip decompose
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22:24 lwq1996 anyone know a good code writing software to use on ubuntu
22:24 lwq1996 this time i dont want to google it because i dont know what you would call the software
22:24 egrsteve|away cprossu try this: http://www.all-spec.com/products/Soldering_and_Rework|Soldering.Rework_Equipment|SOL-10/FX-888.html
22:24 BotSteve Title: Hakko FX-888 | ESD-Safe Soldering/Rework Stations
22:25 lwq1996 lol
22:25 egrsteve|away thats new, botsteve titles
22:25 lwq1996 and get a wedge tip
22:26 lwq1996 steve do you write code?
22:26 egrsteve a little bit it's been a while
22:26 egrsteve I have only done C
22:27 Cheezmo What i really want for an iron is a Metcal MX-500P rework station
22:27 Cheezmo http://www.okinternational.com/product_soldering/mx500
22:27 lwq1996 do you know a good code writing software that would do pythong coding?
22:27 BotSteve Title: Welcome to OK International - Soldering, Rework and Fume Extraction System
22:27 egrsteve no, I haven't used python, but VIM is nice :)
22:28 lwq1996 thats a nice....a metcal is good
22:28 lwq1996 can i use it on linux
22:29 wannabe-afk angy-away: http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/384135_10150460546165429_106270215428_11018578_2082115686_n.jpg
22:29 egrsteve or VI if your a purist
22:29 lwq1996 purist?
22:29 egrsteve VI vs VIM
22:30 egrsteve lets not get started about emacs
22:30 lwq1996 lol
22:32 lwq1996 will the unix version work on linux....because i cant find a linux type
22:32 egrsteve just open a command line and type vim
22:33 egrsteve or vi
22:33 egrsteve one of them should be there
22:33 lwq1996 vim-gnome?
22:33 lwq1996 vim-tiny?
22:33 egrsteve that works
22:33 lwq1996 * vim
22:33 lwq1996 * vim-gnome
22:33 lwq1996 * vim-tiny
22:33 lwq1996 * vim-gtk
22:33 lwq1996 * vim-nox
22:34 egrsteve gnome will probably have a gui with it
22:34 lwq1996 thats whats there
22:34 lwq1996 what one should i go with steve?
22:35 egrsteve what os are you runing
22:35 lwq1996 ubuntu
22:35 lwq1996 linux
22:35 egrsteve then go with gnome
22:35 lwq1996 ok
22:36 lwq1996 how would i open it from a terminal
22:39 lwq1996 egrsteve how do you open a program from terminal
22:39 egrsteve try vim
22:40 Monkeh And this is what's wrong with Ubuntu..
22:40 egrsteve open the terminal type the name and hit return
22:40 egrsteve aka enter
22:40 lwq1996 oh ok
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22:41 egrsteve so vim your\ doc opens file of name your doc
22:41 lwq1996 gah.... damn this
22:41 Toastdude lwq1996: You use Icechat, right?
22:42 lwq1996 yes toast i use icechat
22:42 egrsteve (you have to excape spaces in names) you may find it easier especialy when coding to just use underscores so your_doc
22:42 lwq1996 well not on linux
22:42 lwq1996 ok
22:43 lwq1996 why do you want to know toast
22:43 egrsteve I use a mac and can get around a command line a bit, what is the world coming to that that linux users don't know the prompt
22:43 Toastdude Cause I'm on Ubuntu right now... What are you using now?
22:43 egrsteve ttyl
22:44 Toastdude Bye egrsteve
22:44 egrsteve darwin unix (aka osX)
22:45 Ponko ok cya later peeps
22:45 Toastdude Bye Ponko
22:47 Ponko laters toasty
22:47 lwq1996 i use pidgin
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22:48 Monkeh egrsteve|away: My point exactly.
22:52 lwq1996 is unix and linux programs transferable
22:54 Monkeh Sort of
22:54 Sgt_Lemming theoretically yes
22:54 Sgt_Lemming not always though
22:54 Sgt_Lemming basic x11 compatible stuff is
22:55 Sgt_Lemming anything more complex tends to be a bit more difficult
22:55 Sgt_Lemming heck even going between unix distro's can be a pain
22:55 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Who said anything about X?
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22:58 lwq1996 what should i look for to see if it is
22:59 Sgt_Lemming yay! fixed my torch...
22:59 lwq1996 lol
22:59 Sgt_Lemming well, kitbashed two broken ones into one working one
23:00 Sgt_Lemming http://www.dealextreme.com/p/trustfire-tr-801-cree-q5-wc-230-lumen-led-flashlight-1-18650-13095 <--- one of these
23:00 BotSteve Title: TrustFire TR-801 Cree Q5-WC 230-Lumen LED Flashlight (1*18650) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
23:02 Sgt_Lemming it'd be a good torch for chris if someone wanted to buy him one, some batteries and a charger
23:02 Sgt_Lemming intensely bright, like painful to look at bright
23:02 egrsteve|away ya, I have one similar
23:03 egrsteve|away it's bright, almost too bright at times
23:04 * egrsteve|away is hungry
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23:07 lwq1996 .botsteve_code
23:07 lwq1996 .botsteves_code
23:07 BotSteve my code download can be found at https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve
23:10 Toastdude Hi BotSteve
23:10 BotSteve Hey Toastdude!
23:11 lwq1996 .seen batsteve
23:11 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw batsteve 17.56 hours ago at 2011-11-10 05:37:25 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:11:06 UTC
23:11 lwq1996 damn i need him
23:11 lwq1996 botsteve you need upgrades
23:14 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell BatSteve he'd like to create his own bot for his channel, either by forking me or creating one from scratch... Would you help him, please?
23:14 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
23:14 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
23:14 BotSteve Happy to help, Toastdude
23:17 lwq1996 HAHAHAHA...MY FRIEND SAID HE DOESNT LIKE UBUNTU BECAUSE IT DOESNT RUN WINDOWS PROGRAMS
23:17 Toastdude ...WOW...
23:18 lwq1996 ik
23:18 Toastdude That's *kinda* the point of different OS's...
23:18 Monkeh Except it can.
23:19 Monkeh I just don't like Ubuntu because it's shit.
23:20 KernelTrap Monkeh: it can run some windows programs well enough, but wine just doesn't cooperate with some things
23:20 KernelTrap have they gotten DX11 to play nice with wine yet?
23:23 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996 http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/12/linux-stop-holding-our-kids-back.html be careful using linux at school :-P
23:23 BotSteve Title: The Blog of Helios: Linux - Stop holding our kids back
23:24 Toastdude Haha, 1611 people on #ubuntu
23:25 Sgt_Lemming and all of them clueless
23:25 Monkeh KernelTrap: *shrug*
23:25 Monkeh KernelTrap: Anything 3D you just use Windows.
23:25 KernelTrap Monkeh: nah, I've gotten plenty of games to work well enough in wine
23:25 Monkeh KernelTrap: Just about anything which isn't from the 90s or 3D works fairly well.
23:25 Monkeh KernelTrap: Yeah, they work much better on Windows directly, with less faff.
23:25 KernelTrap to be honest, it's usually the 2d shmups that fuck up in wine for me
23:25 KernelTrap Monkeh: not always
23:26 KernelTrap some games perform better under wine than in a vanilla windows install
23:26 lwq1996 lol
23:26 Monkeh Are they worth playing?
23:26 KernelTrap Monkeh: I've heard tell of morrowind behaving that way
23:26 Monkeh KernelTrap: Never had trouble with Morrowind on Windows.
23:27 KernelTrap Monkeh: neither have I, and I haven't in wine and don't have much of a way to test it as it's a fairly easy game for most machines to handle these days
23:29 KernelTrap even bargain bin laptops can handle it without issue these days
23:29 Monkeh KernelTrap: Not the way I run it.. ;)
23:29 KernelTrap Monkeh: all those beautifying mods?
23:29 KernelTrap better bodies, the fancy trees with leaves, etc. ?
23:30 Monkeh KernelTrap: High res textures etc, yes.
23:30 KernelTrap better bodies is the only one of those I use, and even then only sometimes
23:30 Monkeh Well, you're boring. :P
23:31 KernelTrap I've had more problems with shmups than fancy 3d FPSs and such in wine, tbh
23:32 Monkeh schmups?
23:32 Monkeh Pardon the c, my fingers are cold.#
23:32 KernelTrap touhou, chorensha, crimzon clover, etc.
23:32 KernelTrap ikaruga, psyvariar
23:32 Monkeh You're speaking latin to me.
23:33 KernelTrap the japanese space shooters with a gorillion bullets onscreen at once and tiny hitboxes
23:33 Monkeh Oh.
23:33 Monkeh So nothing I care about.
23:33 Monkeh At all.
23:33 NeWtoz oh dang, snow has officially landing in Grand Rapids, MI
23:34 Monkeh NeWtoz: Time for the lab to get snowed in again, and still without all the heating working right?
23:34 lwq1996 yup
23:34 Monkeh Awesome.
23:34 NeWtoz indeed
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23:36 Toastdude Toast
23:36 lwq1996 ok enough of my ubuntu laptop...goin back to windows
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23:38 Monkeh Skyrim.. soooooon..
23:38 NeWtoz BLASPHEMY
23:38 dbshortwave .g tor
23:38 BotSteve dbshortwave: http://www.torproject.org/
23:38 Monkeh NeWtoz: Beg pardon?
23:38 NeWtoz I haven't planed an elders scroll get, but I am getting it now
23:39 NeWtoz the blasphemy was directed at lwq for leaving linux
23:43 Seroster anyhow
23:43 Seroster cya
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23:53 Cheezmo $40 for an ECU chipping doesn't seem too bad P:
23:53 Cheezmo 1.5 hours and pickup/delivery
23:54 Toastdude Wb lwq
23:55 lwq1996 hi
23:56 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/MacroS#5673519989813380530 <--- the broken torch head
23:56 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming Dixon - Macro's
23:57 Sgt_Lemming you can see the solder sticking off the right side of the PCB and the gray smudge on the brass contact where it's supposed to be attached
23:57 Cheezmo Sgt_Lemming, was the board soldered to the case?
23:57 Cheezmo ah
23:57 Sgt_Lemming supposed to be
23:57 Sgt_Lemming one side let go, the other side broke
23:57 Cheezmo resoldering time?
23:58 Sgt_Lemming resoldering it would not be a simple task, because the brass housing is designed to act as a heatsink
23:58 Cheezmo needs some sorta reflow or something
23:58 Sgt_Lemming nah
23:59 Cheezmo and that's ruid the stuff on it
23:59 Cheezmo ruin*
23:59 Cheezmo tricky indeed
23:59 Sgt_Lemming just big chunky soldering iron o doom
23:59 Cheezmo that's what I was thinking :P
23:59 Sgt_Lemming which I don't have
23:59 Cheezmo we had some fatties at my last job for soldering 4awg wire terminals
23:59 Sgt_Lemming kitbashed it with another broken one I had, now have a working light again, but took that pic because I am gonna try and get a warranty replacement

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