Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-15

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00:14 wannabe1987 .c 20*60
00:14 BotSteve 1200
00:16 tggmc joined #thegeekgroup
00:17 tggmc hello
00:17 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
00:17 tggmc celing
00:17 tggmc fixing stuff
00:19 wannabe1987 .c 3*120
00:19 BotSteve 360
00:19 wannabe1987 yay i did math right!
00:20 wannabe1987 .c 2.27*700
00:20 BotSteve 1589
00:24 tggmc can someone check stream audio for me?
00:24 SparkyProjects Can't hear anything
00:25 lwq1996 nope i cant...im busy
00:27 SparkyProjects Hearing scanner
00:27 tggmc scanner is good
00:28 Druidic_Rifleman so work crews logged out for the night
00:30 GasPs joined #thegeekgroup
00:31 Druidic_Rifleman ? how hard is it to get time on the lathe?
00:31 wannabe1987 need to pay to be a member first
00:32 Druidic_Rifleman doable thats certannly less expensive then buying a CNC lathe
00:32 wannabe1987 true
00:32 wannabe1987 and them i'm sure you need to take a safety course
00:32 wannabe1987 or have Dave show you how to use it
00:32 Druidic_Rifleman done one in highschool shop class sooo shouldn't be to hard
00:32 Druidic_Rifleman to compleat again
00:33 Druidic_Rifleman heck i passed my firearms saftey test hung over with 2 hours sleep
00:33 wannabe1987 lol
00:33 wannabe1987 well, don't be hungover and get sleep for this....
00:33 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
00:34 wannabe1987 *creepy voice* we'll be watching you....
00:35 * Sgt_Lemming pulls out his eye and sits it on wannabe1987's shoulder
00:35 wannabe1987 lol
00:35 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvVAV09-dQ8  i'm watching this....
00:35 BotSteve Title: Converting an indian to christianity - don't let the devil win - YouTube
00:36 Sgt_Lemming "one 'regular' one and one indian one"
00:36 Sgt_Lemming wow...
00:36 wannabe1987 mhm
00:36 wannabe1987 ik, r
00:39 Cprossu hey tggmc / egrsteve|away
00:39 Cprossu still around fixing stuff?
00:40 Cprossu also yNos hrmmm.
00:40 Cprossu our traceroutes still suck =/
00:40 Cprossu post gateway of course
00:41 Cprossu I see we have audio once again, so that's good
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00:57 tlockley Heh, SSL deep
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01:04 wannabe1987 how can chris just drill through walls without getting wires and stuff?
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01:06 wannabe1987 how can chris just drill through walls without getting wires and stuff?
01:06 Toastdude Hi wannabe
01:06 wannabe1987 hi
01:07 wannabe1987 BotSteve
01:08 Toastdude BotSteve!
01:08 BotSteve Toastdude!
01:08 Toastdude .cake
01:08 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I baked you a mudslide cake!
01:08 Toastdude .element
01:08 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I'm giving you 243 milligrams of pure Rhenium !
01:08 Toastdude .yuno
01:08 BotSteve College Degree: Y U NO GET ME JOB????????????
01:08 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I'm giving you 243 milligrams of pure Rhenium
01:08 Sgt_Lemming .yuno
01:09 BotSteve Fox News: Y U NO HAVE NEWS ABOUT FOXES??????????
01:09 Sgt_Lemming .element
01:09 BotSteve Here you go, Sgt_Lemming, I'm giving you 430 bushels of pure Helium !
01:09 Sgt_Lemming lol
01:10 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I'm giving you 243 milligrams of pure Rhenium
01:10 Toastdude Wow MoM
01:10 sndwrx .yuno
01:10 BotSteve Obama: Y U NO USE RADOACTIVE TOILET???????????????
01:10 sndwrx hahahha
01:11 FearOfMusic https://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/store​s/servlet/Product_10001_10001_544489_-1 <- this is an expensive capacitor!!
01:11 BotSteve Title: 0805ZD225KAT2A-VP: JAMECO VALUEPRO: Passive Components
01:11 masterofmonks Toastdude: You rang?
01:11 FearOfMusic and its sale :P
01:11 Toastdude MoM: Y U PUPPET BOTSTEVE??????
01:11 Toastdude :P
01:12 masterofmonks I am reading. The Uplift War by David Brin.
01:12 FearOfMusic if you buy 100+ its $.19 each but if you want fewer than ten they cost $999,999 each
01:14 Cprossu o_O
01:14 Cprossu what in the hell is going on in here?! rofl
01:17 wannabe1987 bot abuse
01:17 wannabe1987 .yuno
01:17 BotSteve User: Y U NO HAVE LIFE??????????????????
01:17 wannabe1987 o.O
01:17 wannabe1987 cuz i can't afford life, thats why!
01:22 Cheezmo amen
01:24 Ponko hmmm
01:25 masterofmonks Translation: Amen: So be it.
01:25 Toastdude So say we all.
01:25 Toastdude :P
01:25 masterofmonks Cheezmo: Am I correct in understanding that it is your wish for this to be the case?
01:26 Cheezmo I'm more agreeing
01:26 masterofmonks Yet that is not what you said.
01:26 masterofmonks You said "So be it"
01:27 wannabe1987 really mom?
01:27 Cprossu I am trying to figure out some latency issues
01:27 Ponko hmm i wonder what BatSteve name would be if he was on a boat
01:27 Cprossu going back to tgg's network
01:27 Cprossu 96.115.174.1 keeps coming up
01:27 Ponko BoatSteve
01:28 Cprossu anyone here feel like doing some internet sleuthing?
01:28 masterofmonks wannabe1987: Yes that is what it really means. My point here is that often people say things and have no clue what they are really saying, and then expect others to understand them.
01:28 wannabe1987 i know thats what it means, the heidelberg catchecism told me so
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01:30 Cprossu I'm now doing an nmap from both sides of the addy, aka one from my home and one from behind tgg's network
01:31 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Hmm?
01:31 * Ponko has that nervous feeling about the game today
01:31 Cprossu trying to figure out how comcast's traffic shaping keeps dicking us.
01:31 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: By design.
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01:32 lwq1996 OMG THE BULLY THAT I WAS FIGHTING IS BEING NICE
01:32 Cprossu it gives us unreasonable latencies for no apparent reason as long as we're using ANY upload.
01:32 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Sounds more like DSL than cable..
01:32 Cprossu and I keep getting ridiculous latencies at 96.115.174.1
01:33 Cprossu but not afterwards or before
01:33 wannabe1987 sorry lee
01:33 wannabe1987 ....
01:33 lwq1996 lol
01:33 lwq1996 i find it funny :P
01:33 wannabe1987 (for my comment on fb)
01:33 lwq1996 ik
01:33 Cprossu oh shit.
01:34 wannabe1987 ok
01:34 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Judging from the IP, that's your router.
01:34 wannabe1987 o.O  who lee?
01:34 Cprossu that's really really weird then.
01:34 wannabe1987 tell me
01:34 wannabe1987 tell me
01:34 wannabe1987 tell me
01:34 wannabe1987 tell me
01:34 wannabe1987 tell me
01:34 Toastdude ...
01:34 Cprossu our outside IP's are nowhere around that range
01:34 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: don't have to be
01:34 Cprossu and I totally killed tgg's internet with that nmap for a moment.
01:34 lwq1996 wannabe i cant tell you she would kill me...because shes over age
01:35 wannabe1987 then why put it on facebook!
01:35 lwq1996 ok....you see teh person posting the other comments
01:35 Cprossu omg Monkeh|Lap
01:35 Cprossu ready for the result?
01:35 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: My IP is 78.32.146.204, but I go through several hops of 188.39.0 first
01:35 wannabe1987 mhm
01:36 lwq1996 well thats it
01:36 lwq1996 she is
01:36 wannabe1987 ahhh
01:36 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: ?
01:36 lwq1996 shes just throwing people off
01:36 wannabe1987 lol
01:36 Cprossu OS Guesses: Cisco 2500 router (IOS 12.1)
01:36 Cprossu ^ Monkeh|Lap
01:36 Cprossu 93% lol
01:36 Monkeh|Lap hehe
01:37 Cprossu and the ports it came back with are odd too
01:38 CaptainNiobe morning all :)
01:38 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Isn't the 2500 series kinda low end?
01:38 Cprossu different ports depending on the side of the netowk.
01:38 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: kinda?!
01:38 Cprossu rofl
01:38 Toastdude CaptainNiobe!!
01:38 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I'm not that familiar with Cisco, just know they're overpriced, overhyped, and overhacked. ;)
01:38 CaptainNiobe hey toast :)
01:38 Toastdude :D
01:39 Cprossu it's likely some other router
01:39 Cprossu because if it really IS a 2500
01:39 Cprossu then comcast hasn't updated their infastructure in ever.
01:39 Cprossu I mean it's a 10 meg router
01:39 Cprossu iirc
01:39 Cprossu hrmmm
01:39 Cprossu my older copy of nmap
01:39 Cprossu came up with a different guess
01:40 Cprossu Cisco 870 router
01:40 Cprossu that HAS to be wrong
01:40 Cprossu shit. that's like a residential dsl gateway
01:40 Cprossu anyway opened up on my side is
01:40 Cprossu 25/tcp   filtered smtp 135/tcp  filtered msrpc 139/tcp  filtered netbios-ssn 445/tcp  filtered microsoft-ds 1720/tcp filtered H.323/Q.931
01:40 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: So it's something Cisco.
01:41 Toastdude 13 in a row.... Wow Cprossu.... :P
01:41 Ponko NeWtoz why are my hands shaking?
01:42 Cprossu for some reason my copy paste ain't workin
01:42 Cprossu on the remote machine
01:42 NeWtoz I don't know, I'm not watching the game
01:42 Ponko well i'm nervous whenever our defence is on the field
01:43 Ponko NO FREAKING WAY
01:43 NeWtoz I get nervous when my offense is on the field ;)
01:44 Cprossu http://pastebin.com/hrqUgRNe
01:44 BotSteve Title: Scanning 96.115.174.1 [1000 ports] Increasing send delay for 96.115.174.1 fro - Pastebin.com
01:44 Cprossu here's one for tgg side of the network
01:44 Ponko NeWtoz well Randall Cobb has JUST returned a punt :D
01:46 Ponko for a TD
01:46 Ponko omg still freaking nervous
01:48 * wannabe1987 needs more words
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01:50 Cprossu hey yNos! your apache server is up lol
01:58 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I'll give it a prod.
01:59 Cprossu technically you don't know it's ip though lol
01:59 dbshortwave o.o
01:59 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: .. The router.
01:59 Cprossu nope
01:59 Cprossu that's a router @ comcast it seems
01:59 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yes, that one.
02:00 Cprossu ain't where the apache server is running
02:00 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I know, I was never talking about the Apache server.
02:00 Cprossu oh ok
02:00 Cprossu cool. let me know what you find
02:00 Monkeh|Lap Having some trouble tracking? :P
02:02 wannabe1987 there was an EQ in haiti today....
02:02 Cprossu not good
02:02 Cprossu I really need to get myself one of these
02:02 Cprossu http://www.steelmantools.com/95978.htm
02:02 wannabe1987 no, seems to not be much damage tho
02:02 BotSteve Title: 95978 - Steelman Tools
02:02 Cprossu they are damn nice to have
02:07 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Varying results, looks a lot like something running IOS 12.
02:07 Cprossu indeed
02:10 lwq1996 ok i tried this switch with 4 positions with a resistance setting on my meter... 1 does nothing at all 2 works all of them 3 works all but one 4 works all but on a different pin
02:13 lwq1996 ik weird
02:13 lwq1996 atleast i now know the circut
02:14 Monkeh|Lap .. Now that I didn't know.
02:14 Monkeh|Lap My Foundry switch is an SMC.
02:14 egrsteve hello
02:15 Toastdude Hi egrsteve
02:15 egrsteve hi toast
02:16 egrsteve sound should now be back on the live stream
02:16 egrsteve including the videostudio
02:19 Toastdude They doing a video right now?
02:23 * wannabe1987 is caught up on captn's blogs :D
02:23 lwq1996 lol
02:23 Toastdude :D
02:23 lwq1996 did you add dylan?
02:23 wannabe1987 no
02:24 lwq1996 ok
02:24 Ponko lol
02:25 wannabe1987 tiem to be getting packed to go home :(
02:26 Toastdude Aw... :(
02:26 wannabe1987 theres shitty internet at home!
02:27 Toastdude Yay! :P
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02:28 Toastdude BatSteve!
02:28 Toastdude Aw...
02:30 masterofmonks Toastdude: Who was brooding in his tower?
02:30 Toastdude What?
02:30 masterofmonks This is a quiz
02:31 Toastdude Okay.... A man that I don't know and have never heard of.
02:31 Toastdude :P
02:31 masterofmonks And a quiz you didn't study for.
02:31 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JphWi_GOIao
02:31 BotSteve Title: Rush - The Necromancer (Lyrics) - YouTube
02:32 Toastdude Oh, that...
02:32 Toastdude I don't retain much....
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Mmm, Rush.
02:33 masterofmonks Does the belief that you don't retain much have any influence on your ability to retain things I wonder?
02:34 BatSteve Motivation to learn has a massive effect on ability to learn
02:34 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
02:34 BotSteve At 14 Nov 21:26Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell BatSteve ouch... Thanks a lot! :P
02:34 Toastdude Bats!
02:34 BotSteve At 14 Nov 22:26Z, wannabe1987 asked me to ask BatSteve if you have to do taxes if you didn't work within a tax year....
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02:34 Toastdude o.O
02:34 Toastdude Lol
02:34 BatSteve BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 yes you do.  You probably don't have to pay taxes, but you still have to fill them out.
02:34 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
02:34 * masterofmonks subdrtacts beer and adds an ewe.
02:34 wannabe1987 ok
02:34 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
02:34 BotSteve At 02:34Z, BatSteve asked me to tell wannabe1987 yes you do.  You probably don't have to pay taxes, but you still have to fill them out.
02:34 wannabe1987 lol
02:36 masterofmonks It greatly depends on if you made any money, if you are below a certain level of income you are not required to file.
02:36 wannabe1987 so far, only money i've made is from my mom
02:36 masterofmonks Did you file a W-4 with her?
02:36 wannabe1987 no
02:36 masterofmonks 1099?
02:38 wannabe1987 no....
02:38 masterofmonks Did you make more than $500 dollars from her?
02:38 wannabe1987 no
02:38 Ponko GO PACK GO!!!!
02:38 masterofmonks You can file, but it is best if you do your taxes yourself, though if you call the IRS they will tell you not to.
02:39 wannabe1987 i always do taxes myself...
02:39 masterofmonks Good lass.
02:39 wannabe1987 Grandpa helped me the first year, but i e-file and stuffs.
02:40 masterofmonks The only thing about filing taxes that show no income is that your are slightly more likely to get audited.
02:40 wannabe1987 the first year he helped me out was cuz i had ohio and michigan stuffs to do
02:40 masterofmonks you*
02:41 masterofmonks I did two state taxes last year, I am glad I don't have to do that again this one.
02:41 wannabe1987 mhm
02:44 masterofmonks .yt teardrop
02:44 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7K72X4eo_s
02:46 wannabe1987 sndwrx: do you ahve a name?  like calling you by your letters SUCKS
02:46 masterofmonks wannabe1987: Soundworks
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02:54 dbshortwave here ya go
02:54 dbshortwave some of the crap ive done in the past
02:54 dbshortwave http://s1090.photobucket.com/albums/i365/dbshortwa​ve/rebuilds%20and%20restores/?albumview=slideshow
02:54 BotSteve Title: Image hosting, free photo sharing & video sharing at Photobucket
03:17 Ponko .w Lizards
03:17 BotSteve "Lizards are a widespread group of squamate reptiles, with nearly 3800 species,[1]| ranging across all continents except Antarctica as well as most oceanic island chains." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizards
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03:20 Katemonster hi botsteve
03:20 BotSteve Greetings Katemonster
03:37 Ponko hmm
03:38 Katemonster yes?
03:38 Ponko sorry just thinking
03:38 lwq1996 YAY KATES HERE...NOW ITS A PARTY
03:38 Katemonster i... what?
03:38 Katemonster no
03:38 * lwq1996 hugs kate
03:39 Katemonster no parties.
03:39 Katemonster hi lee
03:39 lwq1996 why no parties
03:39 Katemonster too tired for parties.
03:39 * BatSteve has his @ again
03:39 BatSteve no parties
03:39 BatSteve The grownups are watching
03:39 Ponko lol
03:39 Katemonster spent last night sleeping on kawaiijess's floor.  didn't sleep well.
03:39 lwq1996 why no parties
03:39 Ponko that's what NSFW is for lee
03:39 Cprossu woot. seroster +q'ed me twice today, asshole =P
03:39 Katemonster fucking /exhuasted/
03:40 Katemonster well, did you deserve them?
03:40 Cprossu not my fault it's fun to try crashing your bot BatSteve
03:40 Ponko Cprossu he was being a REAL arse to me
03:40 Cprossu yeah he was being a real arse to everyone.
03:40 BatSteve oh, I see
03:40 lwq1996 lol
03:40 BatSteve Cprossu: were you able to do it?
03:40 Katemonster http://swissada.deviantart.com/art/H​awker-Tempest-in-the-Air-173217121?q​=favby%3ACaspianSeaMonster&amp;qo=0
03:40 BotSteve Title: Hawker Tempest in the Air by ~SwissAdA on deviantART
03:40 Cprossu BotSteve we'll have to wait 100 years to find out it seems
03:40 Ponko i didn't even do anything to provoke it
03:40 Cprossu Hackbat
03:40 BatSteve awesome!
03:41 Cprossu anyway
03:41 Cprossu speaking of which
03:41 Hackbat heyo o.o
03:41 Ponko lol
03:41 Cprossu I should put a few on the julian date exclusions
03:41 Hackbat why did my name get called
03:42 BatSteve I don't know but it's probably ChanServ's fault
03:42 Hackbat o.o
03:42 Hackbat Cprossu, whatcha want D:
03:42 Cprossu to not type in "h" instead of "b" when I hit <Tab> and <Enter>
03:42 Cprossu sorry my bad.
03:42 Ponko topic to: Topic of today: Ponko is a virgin! and that was Seroster idk where that came from then he went on to slate my mum
03:43 Ponko yeah i took it kinda well but if i could i would of decked him
03:44 lwq1996 ponko your as virgin as i am a saint
03:44 Ponko lol well i'd retort to that but that NSFW stuff my friend
03:44 lwq1996 lol
03:45 Ponko ANYWAY
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03:54 Ponko TOASTY
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03:56 Toastdude PONKY
03:56 astro73|fail two things:
03:56 Toastdude Hi astro73|fail
03:57 Ponko astro73|fail
03:57 Ponko you fail?
03:57 astro73|fail 1. X.org mysteriously broke on me when i rebooted my computer. 2. http://www.youtube.com/user/bigclivedotcom
03:57 BotSteve Title: bigclivedotcom's Channel - YouTube
03:59 astro73|fail and yes. my fail is "Hm i should reboot. .... Where did my gui go?"
04:00 Ponko lol
04:00 BatSteve astro73|fail: that happened to me once
04:00 Ponko well i'd be mocking if used an exclamation mark lol
04:00 BatSteve That was how I learned about xorg.conf
04:00 Ponko if i*
04:01 astro73|fail my xorg.conf has been working for some time
04:01 BatSteve Yes, this was long ago.
04:01 BatSteve What's the second thing?
04:02 astro73|fail bigclive making resistor art
04:02 astro73|fail by applying UK mains to 1/4W resistors
04:02 BatSteve oh
04:02 BatSteve my mistake
04:02 BatSteve I didn't read closely enough
04:02 astro73|fail oh, i guess "nvidia can't load" would be a valid reason
04:03 BatSteve update yer drivers!
04:03 BatSteve Patch your kernel!
04:03 BatSteve .g switchlinux3.swf
04:03 Druidplusbeer whats up
04:03 BotSteve BatSteve: http://dagobah.net/flash/switchlinux3.swf
04:04 BatSteve Same as usual, hanging out, talking geeky stuff
04:04 BatSteve what kinda beer?
04:06 Ponko what BOOZE? where?
04:08 BatSteve Druidplusbeer is drinking it
04:08 BatSteve see?
04:08 * Ponko is seething rage and envy
04:08 Ponko with*
04:08 Druidplusbeer Had some sleemans
04:09 Ponko time for some Coors
04:09 Cprossu I dislike the linux proprietary drivers... there's just something dirty about doing that to a linux kernel
04:09 Cprossu *for nvidia cards*
04:09 astro73|fail sorry, not a whole lot of options there
04:09 Cprossu sadly.
04:10 astro73|fail the free drivers aren't up to snuff yet
04:10 Cprossu not even close.
04:10 astro73|fail you could go intel
04:10 astro73|fail but it just doesn't have the graphics oomph
04:10 Cprossu or play russian roulette and try ati.
04:10 Druidplusbeer Ponko...
04:10 Ponko yiis
04:10 Druidplusbeer coors isn;t beer
04:10 Cprossu fglrx though if you have to use it is the worst.
04:10 Druidplusbeer it's over priced piss
04:11 Cprossu like fosters.
04:11 Ponko it's larger and that
04:11 Cprossu it's australian for piss!(tm)
04:11 Cprossu at least in this country.
04:11 astro73|fail oh? ATI is actually usable now?
04:11 Cprossu usable in the sense it's better than the proprietary drivers
04:11 BatSteve Cprossu: I prefer to think about proprietary drivers this way.  Think of the Linux kernel as a pickup truck - you're not using it to the fullest if there isn't a little mud on the tires
04:11 Druidplusbeer Sleeman beer was one of the ales Capone smuggled during prohibition
04:12 Ponko .yt those were $500 sunglasses you asshole
04:12 BotSteve Ponko: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OY5oetA1kU
04:13 Cprossu I prefer to think of proprietary drivers as patent oil additives that will ruin my fuel economy, cause premature failure of unintended parts, and will ruin my day when I put new performance parts on.
04:13 astro73|fail BatSteve: it's lines like that. we need a QDB
04:13 BatSteve astro73|fail: agreed
04:13 astro73|fail well, X's log says it can't load the nvidia kernel module
04:14 astro73|fail but dmesg doesn't have anything useful on the subject
04:15 * Cprossu could make a really funny dmesg joke right now but doesn't have enough to work off of
04:16 astro73|fail excuse me, it's "nvididafb"?
04:16 astro73|fail huh
04:16 astro73|fail ok
04:16 astro73|fail somehow, nvidia.ko ended up in my 2.6 dkms but not my 3.0
04:16 Ponko man nba STILL on strike
04:17 BatSteve Back in a short while - gonna food.
04:19 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​yfAqBRtKqj4&amp;feature=related lol
04:19 BotSteve Title: Nut Breaker HD - YouTube
04:19 astro73|fail there we go. reinstalling the kernel module did it.
04:19 Cprossu woo.
04:19 astro73|fail still need to install upstart
04:20 Cprossu how is lk 3 shaping up thus far? I haven't tried to compile one yet
04:20 Monkeh Cprossu: It's 2.6.40.
04:20 Cprossu ahh.
04:20 Cprossu just new monkier
04:20 Monkeh Cprossu: There are precisely zero major differences between 2.6 and 3.0
04:20 Monkeh Well, recent 2.6 anyway
04:21 Monkeh 3.0 compared to 2.6.0 is more or less a total rewrite
04:21 Cprossu I remember the big diff that 2.6 was from 2.4
04:21 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, 3.0 is about that different to 2.6.0
04:21 astro73|fail i think they moved to 3.0 because they've been on 2.6 for, what, 10 years?
04:21 Cprossu it took a tremendously long time to get back the functionalities and stability of some of the last 2.4 kernels
04:22 Monkeh astro73|fail: Not quite.
04:22 Cprossu some would say it hasn't happened yet heh
04:22 Monkeh astro73|fail: December 2003.
04:22 astro73|fail a freakishly long time
04:22 Monkeh Cprossu: In some ways, perhaps not, but the sheer amount of functionality in 2.6/3.0 over 2.4..
04:22 Monkeh Cprossu: Wireless for example. Stable as 2.4 is, the entire wireless framework is.. wow. Yeah.
04:23 egrsteve sleep time, night all
04:23 Cprossu lol the wireless framework in 2.4 was _laughable_ at best
04:23 Cprossu night egrsteve
04:23 Cprossu had a full night?
04:23 Monkeh Cprossu: The difference between a 2.4/brcm and 3.0/b43 setup on my WRTs is astounding
04:23 Cprossu sorry I didn't catch you at the lab
04:23 egrsteve|away it's ok
04:23 egrsteve|away I wasn't there too long, I just fixed a few things and called it a night
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04:24 egrsteve|away stream audio and a shotgun mic :)
04:24 egrsteve|away being the big ones
04:24 Cprossu in fact, Monkeh: I would go as far to say that the wireless framework in 2.4 was 'do it yourself'
04:24 Monkeh Cprossu: Basically, yes.
04:24 Monkeh Cprossu: And the rest of the kernel was just not suitable for a decent implementation. Hence 2.6.
04:25 Monkeh Cprossu: Honestly, I'd call anything from.. err, let me check
04:25 Cprossu though some things did get mighty fiddly in 2.6, mainly the hdd controller support
04:25 Monkeh Cprossu: 2.6.25 or so, 3.0
04:25 astro73|fail on a not kernel front, Banshee is horribly, laughably bloated compared to RhythmBox
04:26 Monkeh Cprossu: (2.6.25 is when they began merging x86 and x86_64 along with other gigantic cleanups)
04:26 Monkeh Cprossu: libata >>>>>>>>>> ide
04:26 Cprossu then again AHCI also really fucked everything up.
04:26 Monkeh Cprossu: AHCI is great.
04:26 Cprossu when it functions correctly.
04:26 Monkeh Cprossu: The problem is Windows and legacy IDE BIOSes.
04:26 Monkeh Cprossu: I've never ever had a problem with AHCI, because I refuse to use dodgy legacy workarounds. ;)
04:26 astro73|fail Windows just screws everything up
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04:27 Cprossu I find some bioses will not let you disable some of the legacy features
04:27 Monkeh Cprossu: I even have custom BIOSes for some machines to allow full AHCI support.
04:27 Monkeh Cprossu: And this is not AHCI's fault. This is legacy bullshit.
04:27 Cprossu yeah. exactly.
04:27 Cprossu yeah
04:27 astro73|fail My favorite is the input subsystem, but maybe that's because that's the only part i've really looked ino.
04:27 Cprossu but it was the implementation that's a pain in the ass
04:27 astro73|mal ohai xchat
04:27 BotSteve astro73|mal: I have the following messages for you:
04:27 BotSteve At 13 Nov 05:18Z, BatSteve asked me to tell astro73|mal that I just did a bunch of reading about git flow and discovered that, without knowing it, I accidentally invented it myself, on my own.
04:28 Cprossu though that said I still don't miss LILO =P
04:28 astro73|mal BatSteve-Away, nice.
04:28 Cprossu even though so many still love it
04:28 Monkeh Cprossu: I've actually had to resort to LILO several times.
04:28 Monkeh Cprossu: GRUB has.. limitations.
04:28 Cprossu so does any bootloader
04:28 Monkeh GRUB2 is looking good, though. My next install on an x86/x86_64 box will use it as a trial run.
04:29 Cprossu I'm building up a new testbed video streaming rig, what should I give a go
04:29 Monkeh Cprossu: Let me put limitations into context: I had to use a USB stick to install GRUB on one of my boxes because I ran into a drive limit. :)
04:29 Cprossu assume a wintv PVR150 for now
04:29 Ponko NeWtoz my nerves have completely evapourated
04:29 Cprossu and generic usb audio drivers
04:29 Monkeh Cprossu: Until a reboot to reorder drives, I couldn't install GRUB. Of course, I couldn't BOOT without GRUB..
04:29 Cprossu ouch.
04:30 Cprossu so it was like catch 22 for you
04:30 Monkeh Cprossu: This is what I get for having 15 drives connected to one box.
04:30 astro73|mal ... that's a lot of drives.
04:30 Monkeh astro73|mal: You're telling me.
04:30 astro73|mal i think at that point you write some kind of boot manager?
04:30 astro73|mal (like anyone wants to do that)
04:30 Monkeh astro73|mal: What for? Only one of them contained any form of bootable code.
04:31 Cprossu and grub was giving you pains still??
04:31 Monkeh Cprossu: I had to replace said drive.
04:31 Monkeh Cprossu: So the BIOS order was.. not nice to me until I did some hotswapping trickery and rebooted to a USB stick.
04:31 Cprossu oooh I see
04:31 Monkeh Said machine was running without that drive for ~2 weeks
04:32 Monkeh It's my router and server. I nearly crapped myself every time the lights flickered.
04:32 Monkeh It's on a UPS now.
04:32 Monkeh Along with my entire network infrastructure sans one AP
04:32 Cprossu I'm still waiting for the 425mb hdd in my firewall to die
04:33 Monkeh Cprossu: You'll have to wait a while longer.
04:33 Monkeh Cprossu: My old 500MB was still running until the day I opened it for some magnets.
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04:33 astro73|mal I've figured out that i'd rather have my router/modem on an UPS than my computer.
04:33 Monkeh I'm holding the platters right now.
04:33 Cprossu this drive may outlive more of my cats if this keeps going
04:34 Monkeh astro73|mal: On my UPS: Two switches, one ADSL router (operating as a modem), one server/firewall, one NAS appliance, two external HDD enclosures (four bay), one WRT54GS..
04:34 Monkeh astro73|mal: 700VA. Goes a long way.
04:35 Monkeh My gaming box would eat that UPS by itself.
04:35 astro73|mal yeah. we had a tiny little thing. never worked right, either
04:35 Monkeh Tiny little UPS?
04:35 astro73|mal like, 8" cube
04:35 astro73|mal tops
04:36 Monkeh My batteries are bigger than that.
04:36 astro73|mal maybe only 6"
04:36 Cprossu lets see I just got the chip (pentium 90) that was in the computer I stole that drive from
04:36 Cprossu mfg date is 2nd week of 1995
04:36 astro73|mal and i think the battery is crapped out already
04:37 Cprossu cn you replace the batt while it's on?
04:37 Monkeh Cprossu: About the same age as my 500MB drive then.
04:37 Hackbat yay :3
04:37 Monkeh Cprossu: In a UPS? Not really, no..
04:37 Hackbat made a 113 on my trig exam
04:37 Monkeh Cprossu: At least not mine.
04:37 Cprossu I've had 3 models that you could
04:37 Cprossu was nice.
04:37 astro73|mal i could see that in an UPS array
04:37 Cprossu the current one I have you can't sadly.
04:37 Monkeh Cprossu: Far as I know, mine will switch to battery operation if I unplug the batteries.
04:37 Hackbat Cprossu, I have a Pent 90 I'm sending up to TGG in my next shipment
04:37 Hackbat :3
04:38 Hackbat it's a pretty chip
04:38 Monkeh (that probably doesn't sound right to you)
04:38 astro73|mal Monkeh, less than useful
04:38 Monkeh astro73|mal: Not really. You're not meant to replace them in operation.
04:38 Cprossu it's the neat one with the overlay right Monkeh?
04:38 Cprossu as opposed to the boring flat ones
04:38 Monkeh Cprossu: Hm?
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04:38 Cprossu http://cpu-museum.de/?a=i&amp;f=f&amp​;s=t&amp;id=0008&amp;n=Intel+Pentium+​90MHz+CPGA+%2Fw+Heat-Spreader+front
04:38 Cprossu ^ as in yours looks like this
04:38 Monkeh Cprossu: I do not have a 90MHz Pentium.
04:38 astro73|mal if you unplug the battery, it will attempt to use the (missing) battery?
04:38 Monkeh Cprossu: Speak to Hackbat.
04:38 Cprossu not like http://cpu-museum.de/?a=i&amp;f=f&amp;s=l&amp​;id=0005&amp;n=Intel+Pentium+90MHz+CPGA+front
04:38 Cprossu lol
04:39 Monkeh astro73|mal: Pretty much.
04:39 Cprossu yeah I meant to talk to Hackbat
04:39 astro73|mal that sounds like a collosal fail
04:39 Monkeh astro73|mal: Relays are battery powered and will reset to the battery position if power is removed.
04:39 astro73|mal ah
04:39 Hackbat I have a flat one
04:39 Hackbat but it's still a nice peice of ceramic
04:39 Cprossu mine is with the heatshield and raised
04:39 Monkeh astro73|mal: As such the UPS won't even turn on if the batteries aren't in usable condition.
04:40 astro73|mal that sounds kinda lame
04:40 * Monkeh wakes up the 2400 baud serial console
04:40 Hackbat I have an amd K2-3 liek that
04:40 Monkeh astro73|mal: Just the way it works. The batteries don't just fail.
04:40 Monkeh astro73|mal: It's designed for using in an office, not a datacenter.
04:41 Monkeh Batt voltage: 27.60
04:41 Monkeh That looks fairly good to me..
04:41 astro73|mal out of curiosity, how adaptable are gel-cell battery controllers? can you upgrade your batteries w/o changing the controller?
04:41 Cprossu god damn my firewall's hdd is going to celebrate it's 17th birthday soon o_o there's something really wrong with that.
04:41 astro73|mal Cprossu, they don't make them like they used to?
04:42 Monkeh astro73|mal: They charge based on voltage. So long as it can handle charging for an extended period (.. mine can, you should see the size of the transformer), it doesn't really care what capacity battery is connected.
04:42 Cprossu just as long as the charging amperage is limited by something you should be good to go
04:42 astro73|mal Monkeh, cool. I know lithium controllers are really picky. You need to match it to voltage, capacity, and number
04:43 Monkeh astro73|mal: Mine takes two 7.2Ah batteries, it's not uncommon for people to connect six or eight to increase runtime.
04:43 Cprossu on a lead acid system that is
04:43 Monkeh astro73|mal: Lead acid stuff (sealed or otherwise) is very simple to charge.
04:43 astro73|mal like i said, I think the battery on our UPS crapped out
04:43 Monkeh astro73|mal: Normally they're only good for two, three years.
04:44 astro73|mal the other problem is that it's a cheap residential UPS, so it can't communicate with the equipment
04:44 Cprossu though with a shitty enough ups design it's probable that you could overload a charging circuit physically with enough batteries tied in without a current limiter of some kind
04:44 Monkeh astro73|mal: Doesn't pay to be cheap.
04:44 astro73|mal and tell it "hey! You're on battery! Maybe you should shut down?"
04:44 Monkeh Cprossu: Not sure exactly what the charging circuit is, but I really do not see that transformer being overloaded.
04:45 Cprossu meaning the circuit will pull as many amps as is produced by the power supply
04:45 astro73|mal although, you want to hear the hacktastic remote admin solution that my old sysadmin and I came up with?
04:45 Cprossu and if it doesn't have proper cooling
04:45 Cprossu (meaning the rectifier)
04:45 Cprossu then it will go up in flames.
04:46 Monkeh Cprossu: That's the only real concern, but these units have temperature sensors.
04:46 Cprossu *good ones do*
04:46 Monkeh Cprossu: I only do good. ;)
04:46 Monkeh I see no point buying a UPS if it's not a reliable one.
04:47 Cprossu I've found all ups's are unreliable since they all seem to source the same brands of sealed lead acids
04:47 astro73|mal In the case of power outage, the servers would shut down, and the UPS would power the router and a low-power laptop hooked to a phone modem
04:47 astro73|mal to reboot the computer, we'd litterally dial into the laptop and it would WoL the servers
04:47 Cprossu seems for the most part 2 years max on a set of batts =(
04:47 Monkeh Cprossu: Yes, battery monitoring is crucial.
04:47 Cprossu then it goes downhill from there
04:47 Monkeh Cprossu: Two or three years is all you can realistically expect from a sealed lead-acid used in this manner.
04:47 Cprossu had a back ups 1000 catch fire and die
04:48 Cprossu batts were still good though
04:48 Cprossu wasn't a fun time.
04:48 Monkeh Cprossu: Smart-UPS 700. Rather old. Runs like new.
04:48 Monkeh UPS manufacture date: 04/23/98
04:48 Monkeh That old.
04:48 Cprossu those were nice units
04:48 Cprossu built with less plastic.
04:48 Monkeh Cprossu: The only plastic in this which isn't used as an insulator is the front panel.
04:49 Cprossu had a smartups 2200 that I liked until it's inverter decided it didn't want to live anymore
04:49 Monkeh Cprossu: Only downside is that it's RS232 only.
04:49 Cprossu that one stunk up my room for a couple weeks
04:49 Cprossu well aren't they all Monkeh?
04:49 Cprossu heh
04:49 Monkeh Cprossu: No, newer models have USB on them.
04:49 Monkeh Cprossu: USB connectors I can provide in large quantity. RS232 not so much.
04:50 Cprossu of the usb models I've found a tone that use usb->rs232 inside.
04:50 Monkeh Cprossu: Fine by me, RS232 adapters aren't cheap!
04:50 Cprossu hence the joke.
04:50 Cprossu mine have all been < $10
04:50 Cprossu (us)
04:51 Cprossu though I can say I've only found one that plays nice with XP x64
04:51 BatSteve astro73|mal: although I then found something about github-flow
04:51 BatSteve and I discovered I like that better
04:51 Monkeh Cprossu: I have only a few reliable sources for units with charge pumps.
04:51 astro73|mal BatSteve, oh? what's that?
04:51 Monkeh Cprossu: These all cost more than a USB hub.
04:52 BatSteve .g github flow
04:52 BotSteve BatSteve: http://scottchacon.com/2011/08/31/github-flow.html
04:52 Monkeh Cprossu: I could go to the likes of dealextreme and take a gamble. Those ones fall apart.
04:52 BatSteve basically it's the github team's take on flow
04:52 astro73|mal BatSteve, besides having helper scripts?
04:52 Cprossu speaking of which
04:52 Monkeh Cprossu: As for playing nice with Windows
04:52 Monkeh Cprossu: I've got.. three or so adapters with the same chip.
04:52 Monkeh Cprossu: Only one will work.
04:53 Cprossu BotSteve: tell yNos if you can send me my usb-rs232 back sometime I'd like it.
04:53 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
04:53 BatSteve essentially it boils down to "git flow is too complicated, we don't really need it, let's do this similar thing instead"
04:53 Cprossu I keep forgetting about that
04:53 Cprossu (it has a nice long cord and I use it on my elmscan5)
04:53 astro73|mal BatSteve, fair enough. You want to adopt it?
04:53 Cprossu one of these days I'll break down and get an autoenginuity
04:54 Monkeh Cprossu: One of these days I'll fork out for some of these: http://www.easysync-ltd.com/p​roduct/528/es-u-1001-b10.html
04:54 BotSteve Title: ES-U-1001-B10
04:54 Monkeh Proper quality ones.
04:54 astro73|mal (maybe we should do helper scripts for it, too. Like git-feature)
04:54 Monkeh They actually have 'better' ones but I'm not paying for gold plated connects to plug into nickel plated sockets!
04:54 Cprossu hahaha
04:55 Monkeh Actually
04:55 Monkeh Cprossu: http://www.easysync-ltd.com/​product/534/usb2-h-1004.html
04:55 BotSteve Title: USB2-H-1004 | Hi-speed USB to 4-port RS232
04:55 Monkeh That'd be nice.
04:55 Monkeh Damn thing's even wall mountable
04:55 Cprossu I've always wanted one of these http://www.dpie.com/pcbus/quatech-qs​u2-540-industrial-usb-to-serial.html
04:55 BotSteve Title: Quatech QSU2-540 USB2 To Serial - USB2 to Four Port RS-232/RS-422/RS-485 Serial Adapter
04:56 astro73|mal Monkeh, that's niiiiiiiice
04:56 BatSteve astro73|mal: I already have, internally
04:56 BatSteve well...
04:56 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, they make those too.
04:56 BatSteve sort of
04:56 Monkeh Cprossu: Screw terminals suck though.
04:56 astro73|mal BatSteve, sort of?
04:56 Monkeh Cprossu: Fit those with spring terminals and they'll be much nicer
04:56 Cprossu they are nice for building stuff into tables though if you catch my drift.
04:56 Monkeh Yeah
04:57 Cprossu I like things I can set and forget until a port on the table gets destroyed
04:57 BatSteve Sort of.
04:57 Cprossu then replace the port :)
04:57 BatSteve I'll tell you next time - I'm slightly distracted at the moment
04:57 BatSteve sorry to be rude
04:57 astro73|mal ok
04:57 Monkeh Cprossu: Another way of doing that is using cheap I/O plates.
04:58 Monkeh Cprossu: They're silly cheap and you just need to rig up a cable to plug into them.
04:58 Monkeh Cprossu: Speaking of spring terminals, reckon Chris would like to try some of these? http://www.burnstines.com/media/catalo​g/product/cache/1/image/250x/5e06319ed​a06f020e43594a9c230972d/2/2/222413.jpg
04:59 Cprossu gotta be careful, chris may hump your leg when he sees those
04:59 Monkeh Cprossu: He likes strange and unusual electrical connectors, then?
04:59 Cprossu yes.
04:59 Cprossu and sexy ones.
05:00 Monkeh Cprossu: These are really good, too.
05:00 astro73|mal that sounds like chris
05:00 Monkeh Just uh, don't reuse them much.
05:00 Monkeh I had a couple on my desk I kept flipping the lever on. The levers broke.
05:00 Monkeh After, y'know, a couple of thousand cycles.
05:00 Cprossu but the levers are so cute!
05:00 Monkeh Cprossu: They're also a lot less painful to use than those oddball 'wirenut' things you yanks are so fascinated with.
05:01 Cprossu we're also fascinated with punch downs.
05:01 Monkeh Cprossu: The number of times I've sat here and watched Chris twist those things on..
05:01 Monkeh These are just as small and take a LOT less time!
05:02 Cprossu wirenuts ain't that bad, though he doesn't seem to know how to twist a neutral together =D
05:02 Monkeh Cprossu: Twisting is crap anyway.
05:02 Cprossu but that's another story for another time.
05:02 Cprossu wirenuts work ok.
05:02 Cprossu honestly.
05:02 Monkeh Cprossu: Stranded gets torn apart and solid gets stressed.
05:02 Cprossu for solid it works well
05:03 Cprossu quick, dirty, and for the most part will stay together longer than the building will last
05:03 Monkeh Cprossu: Hey, use your amazing Google in the US to find me a cheap seller of Wago 222 connectors.
05:03 Monkeh Cprossu: If they're not too silly I'll donate a few to try.
05:04 Cprossu yeah he'll cream his pants.
05:04 Monkeh Cprossu: And then try and get Wago as a sponsor because these things rock
05:04 Monkeh Cprossu: They also do ones you just push solid wires into.
05:04 Cprossu amazon has a 40 pack of 5 conductor ones for $23
05:05 Cprossu with 6 shipping, bleh.
05:05 Monkeh Cprossu: And ones designed for mixing solid and stranded without using loads of space.
05:05 Monkeh (for lighting fixtures)
05:05 Cprossu want the 3 position ones or the 5?
05:06 Cprossu http://www.amazon.com/222-413-LEVER-NU​TS-Conductor-Compact-Connectors/dp/B00​3K124UA/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=hi&amp;ie=UTF8​&amp;qid=1321333521&amp;sr=1-1-catcorr
05:06 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Wago 222-413 LEVER-NUTS 3 Conductor Compact Connectors 50 PK: Home Improvement
05:06 Cprossu 3 position is $16+ shipping for 50
05:06 Monkeh Cprossu: 2, 3, 5, all good for testing.
05:07 Monkeh That's not too excessive
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05:07 Cprossu you should get it giftwrapped
05:07 Cprossu it would be hillarious
05:07 Cprossu *wonders if you can*
05:07 Monkeh Probably not, it's not through Amazon directly
05:08 astro73|mal you could always send it to a local member, have them gift wrap it
05:08 Monkeh Who here visits the lab regularly?
05:08 astro73|mal and doesn't live with chris
05:08 astro73|mal i think ynos might be a good choice
05:08 tehdark45 Wont be me lol
05:08 tehdark45 or Cheezmo
05:09 Cheezmo wwut
05:09 Cprossu I fully support this idea lol
05:09 Monkeh Ah, found some cheaper ones.
05:09 Cheezmo DARE DISTURB SKYRIM!?
05:09 Monkeh Cheezmo: YES!
05:09 Cheezmo oh yeah... definitely not me
05:09 tehdark45 Cheezmo, wheres Cheezmo_Skyrim?
05:09 tehdark45 :P
05:09 Cprossu just make sure he gets a nicely written funny note from you Monkeh
05:09 * Cheezmo moseys back to game
05:09 Cprossu and don't be in the state when he gets it
05:09 Cprossu lol
05:09 Monkeh yNos: You want to give Chris a gift?
05:10 Monkeh Cprossu: I won't be in the COUNTRY!
05:10 Monkeh Cprossu: Hell, not even on the continent! :D
05:10 * Cprossu wonders if we'll need to warn the hazmat team for all the drooling that will probably happen
05:10 tehdark45 But you will be in the same hemisphere :P
05:11 Cprossu I got my protection gear years ago
05:11 Monkeh Cprossu: Part of your zombie kit?
05:11 * Monkeh actually has a zombie kit of sorts
05:11 tehdark45 My zombeh kit: A katana and 3 other survivours
05:12 Monkeh tehdark45: Food, water, lithium-fueled Maglite, crowbar, hatchet, and anything and everything I can pick up on my way out of the house.
05:12 Hackbat mine is a little complex
05:12 Cprossu Monkeh I wish i had a zombie kit.
05:12 Cprossu if I had one it includes a van and some water.
05:12 tehdark45 If the apocolypse is anything like Killing Floor, ill just surrender
05:12 tehdark45 lol
05:12 Monkeh tehdark45: Firearms are available across the street.
05:12 Hackbat cprossu vans run out of gas
05:12 Cprossu and a friend's sniper rifle once he's eaten by zombies
05:13 Monkeh (I'm one of the rare people who knows where to locate a firearm in the UK without actually owning one)
05:13 Cprossu van is only to get me to a diesel something-or-other
05:13 tehdark45 Monkeh, Im not in 'merica
05:13 tehdark45 :P
05:13 Cprossu then the diesel something-or-other will get me to taco bell
05:13 Monkeh tehdark45: Neither am I.
05:13 Hackbat Cprossu, engines run out of fuel
05:13 Monkeh I am, however, a target shooter and the guy across the street owns several long rifles.
05:13 Cprossu taco bells are fuel stations that likely won't be pillaged.
05:13 Cprossu by anyone other than geeks
05:13 Hackbat it's the apocolypse man
05:14 Cprossu I mean who thinks of frier oil when zombies are attacking?
05:14 Hackbat there's going to be looting and all the gas is going to be used up in a few weeks
05:14 Cprossu yeah fuck the gas.
05:14 Hackbat 2 don't you have to process those to a degree?
05:14 tehdark45 Just move thumper to the front door
05:14 Cprossu nope.
05:14 Cprossu just remove the chunks
05:14 Cprossu and if I stay in AZ I'll be fine.
05:14 tehdark45 when a hoard comes, BOOM
05:14 Monkeh Cprossu: Right, so I think I'll send him 10 of the 3-position levers and 4-position push fits..
05:15 Monkeh If anyone leaks this plan, there shall be pain.
05:15 Hackbat well you have to think of it this way cprossu
05:15 Cprossu yeah. thankfully it's not like this channel is logged on the internet
05:15 Cprossu .log
05:15 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
05:15 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah but does he read that?
05:15 Cprossu not a chance.
05:15 * tehdark45 sends the plan to Youtube
05:15 tehdark45 lol
05:15 Monkeh Cprossu: We're fine.
05:15 Hackbat 90% percent of your town will probally be zombies
05:15 Cprossu .seen captainboden
05:15 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw captainboden 1503.45 hours ago at 2011-09-13 13:48:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:15:55 UTC
05:15 Hackbat cause people are stupid
05:16 Cprossu in fact it's been a wee bit since he's even been on
05:16 tehdark45 Chris comes here often
05:16 tehdark45 lol
05:16 Hackbat .g 1503.45 / 24
05:16 BotSteve Hackbat: http://www.velocityreviews.com/forums/t553832-ne​ed-to-evaluate-simple-arithmetic-expression.html
05:16 Hackbat .c 1503.45 / 24
05:16 BotSteve 62.64375
05:16 Hackbat 62 days
05:16 Hackbat lol
05:16 Monkeh BotSteve: tell yNos I wish to make Chris cry with joy, please get in touch..
05:16 BotSteve Monkeh: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
05:16 Cprossu .seen cprossu_netbook
05:16 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw cprossu_netbook 1822.07 hours ago at 2011-08-31 07:12:40 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:16:55 UTC
05:17 tehdark45 its been 62 days since an autopsy video O_o
05:17 tehdark45 lol
05:17 Cprossu my alter ego beats him though.
05:17 Cprossu that's not true tehdark45
05:17 Hackbat .seen Hackfox
05:17 BotSteve Hackbat: I last saw hackfox 3531.88 hours ago at 2011-06-21 01:24:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:17:20 UTC
05:17 Hackbat :D
05:17 Cprossu the orbital sander...
05:17 tehdark45 Well chris is on IRC during those shoots
05:17 Cprossu when did he do that?
05:17 Hackbat it's been sooooo long
05:17 Cprossu sometimes yes sometimes no
05:17 Monkeh Cprossu: Speaking of that sander, and the clock
05:18 Monkeh Cprossu: His idea of electrical safety makes me cringe. :)
05:18 tehdark45 Zip Ties are perfectly fine
05:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Then again, I've done crazy stuff like that with double the voltage, so I'm one to talk.
05:18 tehdark45 lawl
05:18 tehdark45 and you have UK 220
05:18 tehdark45 :P
05:18 Monkeh tehdark45: Uh, no, it's not 220.
05:19 Monkeh Line Voltage: 244.4
05:19 Monkeh Line Voltage Max: 247.0
05:19 Monkeh Line Voltage Min: 244.4
05:19 Monkeh Output Voltage: 244.4
05:19 Hackbat Monkeh, Doesn't count
05:19 Hackbat :P
05:19 tehdark45 So why are things rated 110-220?
05:19 Hackbat that's your 120
05:20 Monkeh tehdark45: They're not.
05:20 Hackbat they used to be
05:20 Hackbat actually Monkeh
05:20 astro73|mal i've seen it
05:20 Monkeh Hackbat: Nothing ever sold in the UK legally has ever been rated for 110-220VAC.
05:20 Hackbat in some parts of the UK it's still 220
05:20 astro73|mal it happens in the US.
05:20 Monkeh It is NOT legal for anything to be rated below the nominal voltage. For a very long time that was 250VAC.
05:21 Monkeh At this point it is 230VAC, but only very recent installations or repairs operate at that voltage.
05:21 tehdark45 I dont get why NA plugs dont have switches
05:21 Hackbat Monkeh look at your goddamn pc powersupply
05:21 tehdark45 they are so handy
05:21 Monkeh It has never been 220.
05:21 Cprossu tehdark45: we live dangerously
05:21 Hackbat it has a switch to turn it to 110
05:21 Monkeh Hackbat: Let me just grab one sir..
05:21 Monkeh Hackbat: 100-120/200-240VAC.
05:21 Hackbat the little red one
05:21 Cprossu I've never gotten why UK plugs and outlets have fuses
05:22 Hackbat thats what he meant
05:22 Monkeh Hackbat: Yes, and that simply says 220 on it because that's the middle of the range.
05:22 tehdark45 Cprossu, to stop fires
05:22 tehdark45 :P
05:22 Cprossu fires are AMERICAN!
05:22 Monkeh Hackbat: And because it's the same part used in european and asian countries which are operated at 220VAC nominal.
05:22 Hackbat I meant the 110-2xx thing
05:22 Hackbat but w/e
05:22 tehdark45 I know what it is
05:22 tehdark45 The electricins in UK are so bad
05:23 Monkeh Hackbat: That's not a rating.
05:23 tehdark45 they rely on the plug for protection
05:23 tehdark45 lol
05:23 Hackbat monkeh what was the line voltage in the 1920's?
05:23 Monkeh Hackbat: 250VAC so far as I'm aware.
05:23 Cprossu US went from 110 to eventually 125 over the years
05:24 Monkeh tehdark45: Yeah, no.
05:24 Monkeh tehdark45: If you want to get into a technical discussion of the pros and cons of ring final circuits, we can do that.
05:24 tehdark45 What the reason of different mains voltages amnyway
05:24 Hackbat >:D ha
05:24 Hackbat 220 V in Northern Ireland
05:24 Monkeh tehdark45: Political and theoretical differences and historic reasons.
05:27 Hackbat tehdark45, they had to make sure they could kill off the idiots faster in the UK since they breed faster
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05:27 Hackbat the streets are paved with chavs
05:27 Monkeh Hackbat: Valid point.
05:28 Monkeh However we actually have fewer electricity related deaths by population as I recall
05:28 Monkeh And most of the US electricity-related deaths are caused by electrical fires.
05:28 Hackbat well we kinda invented it so we had all the prototype stuff
05:28 Monkeh And guess who got it right? :P
05:29 Hackbat that stuff usually catches fire :3
05:29 Monkeh Hackbat: Still using that 110V prototype I see.
05:29 Monkeh Hackbat: And those hilarious sockets.
05:29 Hackbat Litsen you don't mock the unhappy faces
05:29 astro73|mal you don't like our face sockets?!
05:29 Hackbat they scream don't touch me
05:29 Hackbat literally
05:29 Monkeh Hackbat: They scream it with FIRE
05:30 Hackbat no they don't
05:32 Hackbat monkeh you mistake our power outlets for creepers
05:33 Hackbat it's okay the lesser countries do it all the time
05:33 Monkeh Hackbat: They certainly look the same!
05:33 Hackbat http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/201​1/6/3/ae2030b5-2cef-4468-91a9-a70e11c4eda2.jpg
05:33 Monkeh I know what a creeper looks like :P
05:33 Hackbat no you don't D:<
05:33 Monkeh Yes I do!
05:34 tehdark45 UK is safer though
05:34 tehdark45 everything is grounded
05:34 Monkeh tehdark45: .. Not exactly.
05:34 Hackbat .minecraft
05:34 BotSteve The 'official' TGG minecraft server address is: gamerxreviews.net (online)
05:34 tehdark45 Is the 3rd prong for show?
05:35 tehdark45 on some things
05:35 Monkeh tehdark45: Yeah, that doesn't mean everything is grounded.
05:35 Hackbat tehdark45, america has those too...
05:35 Monkeh Also, grounded != safe.
05:35 tehdark45 i didnt say safe
05:35 tehdark45 i said safer
05:35 Monkeh Again, doesn't mean it's safer.
05:36 Hackbat they're both fucking grounded
05:36 tehdark45 Not 2 prongs
05:36 Monkeh tehdark45: You're grounded. You touch a live 230V conductor. What happens?
05:36 Monkeh tehdark45: You're not grounded. You touch a live 230V conductor. What happens?
05:36 Monkeh Answers on a postcard.
05:37 Cheezmo_Skyrim lol, you might get a little tingle if anything
05:38 tehdark45 i goes through you and you get pushed away
05:38 Monkeh tehdark45: .. Yeah, no.
05:38 tehdark45 grounding is for fire prevention
05:38 Katemonster night night geekazoids
05:38 Monkeh tehdark45: In situation 1, depending on a number of factors, you may experience a severe and potentially lethal electrical shock.
05:38 Cheezmo_Skyrim cheers, Katemonster
05:38 tehdark45 not human idiocy prevention
05:38 tehdark45 :P
05:38 Monkeh tehdark45: In situation 2, you get a brief tingle as you match potential with the conductor.
05:39 Monkeh tehdark45: .. Grounding is not for fire prevention.
05:39 Cheezmo_Skyrim Monkeh, I wouldn't call it potential matching
05:39 Monkeh BAD grounding is likely to CAUSE fires.
05:39 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: Oi, get on with slaying dragons.
05:39 tehdark45 Thtas when its bad
05:39 Cheezmo_Skyrim :P
05:40 Monkeh tehdark45: And how do you know it's good?
05:40 Cheezmo_Skyrim grouding may prevent fires through GFCI tripping
05:40 tehdark45 YOu fond out
05:40 tehdark45 somehow
05:40 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: And GFCIs, as you call them, are not designed for such operation except in extreme circumstances.
05:40 Cheezmo_Skyrim and bathrooms :P
05:40 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: That's not the same thing.
05:41 Cheezmo_Skyrim making a generalization
05:41 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: And they're also not to be relied upon
05:41 Cheezmo_Skyrim well doi :P
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05:41 Cheezmo_Skyrim that's what electrical smarts is for
05:41 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: They limit duration, not current. If your timing is just that bit wrong, it's very possible for one to actually cause death rather than prevent it.
05:41 tehdark45 Grounding does something otherwise it wouldnt be used
05:42 Monkeh tehdark45: It does many things for many reasons.
05:42 tehdark45 Yeah
05:42 tehdark45 I know
05:42 Monkeh Electrical installations are a rather complex subject.
05:42 tehdark45 No its easy
05:42 Monkeh Let's see if any of you can see what's wrong with this: http://monkeh.net/pics/S8000892.jpg
05:42 tehdark45 just make sure you have too thin a wire
05:43 tehdark45 and you will be fine
05:43 tehdark45 lol
05:44 Cheezmo_Skyrim Monkeh: it sore looks confusing, I think that's one fault no less
05:44 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: It's actually quite simple if you run through it.
05:44 tehdark45 Wat is that anyway
05:44 Cheezmo_Skyrim labels make everything happier
05:44 Monkeh Although I admit, you do need to look in the bottom-left box for a little clarification.
05:44 tehdark45 it looks like a bunch of Oven switches
05:45 Cheezmo_Skyrim oven switches?
05:45 Cheezmo_Skyrim lol
05:45 tehdark45 UK you have a switch for the oven curciut
05:45 Cheezmo_Skyrim clearly never worked with commercial/industrial breakers
05:45 tehdark45 in the kitchen
05:45 Monkeh tehdark45: And they don't look anything like those.
05:46 Cheezmo_Skyrim WELP, I gotta run go pick up my woman
05:46 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: These aren't commercial or industrial in the least, just bog standard stuff ;)
05:46 Cheezmo_Skyrim bbl
05:46 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: 100A at 240V requires quite some breaking.
05:47 Cheezmo_Skyrim Monkeh, I worked with breakers up to about 300-1000A at my last job :P
05:47 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: Fun times.
05:47 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: We put those in oil.
05:47 Cheezmo_Skyrim UPS units from 600VA to 100kVA
05:47 Cheezmo_Skyrim the stuff they built was shit, so I left :P
05:47 Cheezmo_Skyrim also, leaving here for a bit :B
05:47 * Cheezmo_Skyrim poofs
05:48 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: Visit the lab, you'll get to work with a breaker for 80kA. Sort of. ;)
05:49 tehdark45 Just go to Photoncinductions house
05:49 tehdark45 play with a 100A transformer
05:49 tehdark45 on mains
05:49 Monkeh tehdark45: Nah, I'll use his 1W laser instead.
05:50 tehdark45 Lol
05:50 tehdark45 So you must know him
05:50 tehdark45 since your in the UK
05:50 tehdark45 :P
05:50 Monkeh Of him
05:50 tehdark45 yeah lol
05:51 tehdark45 Wat part is he in? can you tell?
05:51 Monkeh I could work it out
05:51 Monkeh But I cba
05:51 tehdark45 lol
05:52 tehdark45 Just follow the laser ;0
05:52 tehdark45 )*
05:52 Monkeh If I'd been looking, I'm fairly confident I'd have seen that if it was a clear night.
05:59 tehdark45 If i was gona guess something I would say hes somewhere like essex
06:00 lwq1996 OMG HOW ITS MADE IS ON
06:00 * lwq1996 goes and watches
06:00 lwq1996 ive been lurking
06:00 tehdark45 lol
06:01 tehdark45 how its made gets boring
06:01 astro73|mal you know it's on netflix, right?
06:01 lwq1996 i dont have netflix....yet
06:01 tehdark45 Also the british narrator is better
06:01 astro73|mal and online
06:02 lwq1996 egrsteve you here?
06:03 lwq1996 .seen egrsteve
06:03 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw egrsteve 1.67 hours ago at 2011-11-15 04:23:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:03:32 UTC
06:03 lwq1996 ah he went to bed
06:03 lwq1996 i wonder if he has a facebook
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06:39 lwq1996 ok bed time....later guys
06:57 BotSteve Cprossu: tell Cprossu it worked
06:58 Hackbat botsteve seems ot have gone stupid
07:03 Monkeh Hackbat: No, Cprossu went stupid.
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07:05 Monkeh Hackbat: Not sure if you got that.
07:06 Hackbat probally not
07:06 Monkeh Hackbat: No, Cprossu went stupid.
07:06 Hackbat ah
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07:15 dr_jkl GRRR
07:16 Druidplusbeer hey
07:16 Druidplusbeer hows you Doc?
07:24 Cprossu it's a long story
07:24 Cprossu and it involves julian.
07:25 Cprossu .in 40 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:25 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 15 Nov 2051 at 07:25Z
07:25 Cprossu .in 50 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:25 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 14 Nov 2061 at 19:25Z
07:25 Cprossu .in 60 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:25 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 15 Nov 2071 at 07:25Z
07:25 Cprossu .in 150 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:25 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 15 Nov 2161 at 19:25Z
07:25 Cprossu .in 350 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:25 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 17 Nov 2361 at 19:25Z
07:25 Cprossu .in 950 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:25 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 21 Nov 2961 at 19:25Z
07:25 Cprossu .in 1500 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:25 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 27 Nov 3511 at 07:25Z
07:25 Cprossu wow haha
07:26 Cprossu .in 15000 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:26 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 07 Mar 17012 at 07:26Z
07:26 Cprossu .in 150000 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:26 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 14 Dec 152014 at 07:26Z
07:26 Cprossu BatSteve-Away ^ yay this is some funny shit.
07:27 Cprossu precision losses?
07:27 Cprossu .in 800000 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:27 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 19 Apr 802028 at 07:27Z
07:27 Cprossu .in 1000000 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:27 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 28 May 1002032 at 07:27Z
07:27 Druidplusbeer Cprossu why are you doing that...
07:28 Cprossu to break things in impossible ways.
07:28 Cprossu .in 9000000 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:28 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 05 Sep 9002196 at 07:28Z
07:28 Cprossu .in 9000000000 years tell Cprossu Should Not See Me
07:28 BotSteve ValueError: (75, 'Value too large for defined data type') (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-b​otsteve/modules/remind.py", line 104, in remind)
07:28 Cprossu ^ there we go
07:29 Cheezmo_Skyrim lol
07:29 Cheezmo_Skyrim hax
07:29 Cprossu in this case bugger overflow
07:31 Cprossu BotSteve: tell BatSteve for values of 9000000000 years (didn't find the low end cutoff) we get a nice little value is too large for defined data type, consider limiting .in to something that's actually sane (despite the fact it's cool to tell a bot to tell you things long after the human race has ended)
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07:31 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
07:31 Druidplusbeer Am i the only one who notised that the date of how many years ended up in march....
07:32 Cprossu it's a date calulation problem in a floating point precision calculation, notice the years get goofy too
07:33 Cprossu in fact the damn thing goes inaccurate rather quickly
07:34 Cprossu counting for leap years too
07:34 Cprossu is a pita
07:34 Hackbat Occupy Wallstreet is being Raided
07:38 Druidplusbeer ... yeah occupy wa;lstreet was a fai
07:38 Hackbat http://www.livestream.com/globalrevolution
07:38 BotSteve Title: globalrevolution - live streaming video powered by Livestream
07:38 Druidplusbeer fail
07:38 Hackbat well it's not really
07:38 SuperPhosphate The police were brutal
07:38 Druidplusbeer ... they can't even explain what they're goals are
07:39 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​qVpTxRNwifQ&amp;feature=relmfu
07:39 BotSteve Title: Occupy Wall Street - YouTube
07:39 Hackbat Dan explains it well
07:43 SuperPhosphate The biggest problem is that they are not targeting anyone specifically
07:44 Druidplusbeer talk about wall street corruption? through acts of violence and looting...?
07:44 SuperPhosphate The banks dont take any notice of them
07:44 SuperPhosphate I thought is was a peaceful protest till the cops come
07:45 Druidplusbeer Sadly I would rather have fast and furious or as i refer to it "Operation give guns to the cartells to generate evidence for a new AWB"
07:45 Druidplusbeer get the media coverage...
07:46 Druidplusbeer High treasion a US federal agency committing act's of treason and getting 200 citizens in mexico who is a US ally
07:46 SuperPhosphate na, It would be much better to hack the accounts of the bank bosses
07:46 Druidplusbeer murdered
07:46 Druidplusbeer Yeah...
07:47 Druidplusbeer I think using an SGL21...
07:47 Druidplusbeer is a better choice
07:48 SuperPhosphate its just more visible
07:48 SuperPhosphate Im not into guns´
07:49 * Hackbat doesn't think guns should be used on other humans
07:49 SuperPhosphate I do have some smelly socks in the bathroom that would take out a whole squad
07:51 * killakee killakee
08:18 Druidplusbeer am i still connected
08:18 Druidplusbeer apparently i am
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09:59 BotSteve All right, show us on the doll where Seroster touched you.
10:00 Seroster oi
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10:20 savorak hey
10:24 savorak anyone home?
10:31 Seroster erm
10:31 Seroster yeah
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12:11 killakee wilco charlie foxtrot .. still no captainsblog ?
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12:11 killakee ups.. hehe
12:11 sndwrx BatSteve-Away: hahah I had completely forgotten about that switch to linux video.  seems like it's probably about 10 years old or so?
12:11 killakee meant tango
12:13 sndwrx mornin' killakee
12:16 killakee morning sndwrx
12:16 sndwrx How's it goin'?
12:17 killakee well i have been looking for high voltage diodes all day and found nothing :/ but apart from that just randy dandy
12:18 killakee u?
12:23 sndwrx Sorry to hear that.
12:24 sndwrx I should have been able to sleep in today but I've been up for an hour already.  :P
12:25 killakee hehe i know how that is :)
12:25 killakee where are you from ?
12:28 sndwrx Grand Rapids, MI
12:30 sndwrx how about you?
12:40 killakee im from norway
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12:49 yNos moinmoin
12:49 BotSteve yNos: I have the following messages for you:
12:49 BotSteve At 04:53Z, Cprossu asked me to tell yNos if you can send me my usb-rs232 back sometime I'd like it.
12:50 BotSteve At 05:16Z, Monkeh asked me to tell yNos I wish to make Chris cry with joy, please get in touch..
12:53 * dbshortwave yawns
13:43 sndwrx Think I'm gonna mosey on over to the Treasure Chest in a little while.
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13:47 killakee @sndwrx find me some diodes in the chest ;)
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13:49 BotSteve Cookies, Sandwiches, Skittles, Oh my!
13:50 wannabe1987 STUPID FOG
13:50 sndwrx killaway^skyrim: hehe
13:50 sndwrx mornin' wannabe1987
13:50 wannabe1987 hi
13:50 sndwrx Foggy out there this morning?
13:51 wannabe1987 so north of stanton on deserted roads there IS no fog, but IN stanton and south where there are buildings theres fog so thick i can't see in front of my car more than 10-15 feet
13:51 wannabe1987 WHAT THE HECK
13:51 wannabe1987 and i heard gunshots
13:52 sndwrx wow
13:54 wannabe1987 yeah
13:54 sndwrx Could be someone sighting in their gun for tomorrow's open season.
13:54 wannabe1987 i missed my turn from M46 to M66 south cuz i couldn't see it.  i also had someone try to pass me but get cut off and pulled RIGHT in front of me...
13:54 wannabe1987 today is opening season....
13:54 sndwrx Oh right I thought today was Nov 14.
13:55 wannabe1987 nope
13:55 sndwrx Stupid slow calendar.
13:55 sndwrx haha.
13:55 wannabe1987 thankfully i saw no deer
13:55 wannabe1987 unlike LAST night where they all stood on the side of the road...
13:55 sndwrx Had a deer go bounding across Canonsburg yesterday morning.
13:55 wannabe1987 nice
13:56 sndwrx Other than that and a couple others, I really haven't seen too much deer activity between Greenville and GR.
14:00 wannabe1987 thats good.  i've see plenty :P
14:03 sndwrx yeah there are a few more up there around stanton and lakeview and stuff.
14:03 sndwrx I lived in Howard City for a little while.
14:05 * yNos wants to stab users in the face with a sharpened pice of glass
14:06 sndwrx Aw, that's no fun.  Here's a rusty spoon!
14:06 sndwrx What's goin' on, yNos ?
14:08 Seroster aRr
14:08 sndwrx hey Seroster
14:09 wannabe1987 o. its you.  hi Seroster
14:09 Seroster Hello soundworks
14:09 Seroster And... You there.
14:09 sndwrx How goes?
14:15 sndwrx Wow, Lucky Charms has too many marshmallows now
14:16 wannabe1987 never
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14:18 sndwrx I don't even understand what any of these shapes are anymore.
14:19 sndwrx They're just colored blobs of marshmallow.
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14:23 sndwrx haha.
14:24 sndwrx That was so disappointing, I'm going to have chips and salsa.
14:37 wannabe1987 ...
14:38 wannabe1987 LOLOLOL mac dad (my dad uses mac) and he's trying to help me with windows...
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14:47 wannabe1987 hello SuperPhosphate
14:47 SuperPhosphate Hi
14:47 SuperPhosphate whats happening?
14:48 wannabe1987 its not even 10am, nothing yet :P  its opening day for deer hunters tho, so gunshots are a normal thing to hear up near where i am :P
14:48 SuperPhosphate oh
14:48 SuperPhosphate That doesnt sound like so much fun
14:48 wannabe1987 no, its cold :P i wouldn't want to sit in a tree waiting for deer in the foggy cold weather
14:49 SuperPhosphate Aw poor deer
14:49 sndwrx Apparently some people think so, they pull their kids out of school for the first couple days of season opening.  :P
14:49 wannabe1987 sndwrx there is no school today for greenville
14:49 SuperPhosphate ok
14:49 wannabe1987 and yes, poor deer
14:50 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 11-14-11 TedX Launch Party http://youtu.be/3aOxBGkQFxM
14:50 sndwrx Oh that's right, it's "in-service school day".
14:50 sndwrx dumb.
14:50 wannabe1987 lol
14:50 sndwrx What's the story with the half-day on Friday?
14:51 sndwrx Is it going to be all class periods, but shortened?
14:51 sndwrx Or do they cut the second half of the day's classes off entirely?
14:53 wannabe1987 i don't know
14:53 Seroster Hello there SuperPhosphate
14:54 sndwrx I thought I heard they were going to shorten all the classes to fit within the half-day.
14:54 sndwrx oh hi SuperPhosphate :)
14:54 wannabe1987 i wouldn't know, i don't know anyone at Greenville HS....
14:54 wannabe1987 nicole takes a calss at the tech ctr thing and her class is full of high schoolers
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14:55 SuperPhosphate hi
14:56 killakee hi wannabe
14:56 wannabe1987 hi killakee
14:56 wannabe1987 hows skyrim....
14:57 killakee hehe. as always :)
14:58 wannabe1987 lol
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15:01 wannabe1987 hi Electricguy
15:01 wannabe1987 captain? killaway^captain?
15:01 wannabe1987 ahhh
15:01 killaway^blog heh
15:01 Electricguy hi there wannabe1987 :3
15:02 wannabe1987 how are you
15:03 Electricguy a little tired, otherwise good
15:03 Electricguy and you? :)
15:03 wannabe1987 good.  i survived the drive to school in VERY dense fog....
15:04 killaway^blog is stomper done ?
15:05 wannabe1987 i ddunno
15:05 wannabe1987 whats stomper?
15:05 killakee @wannabe i tryed to write away^captainsblog ;)
15:05 wannabe1987 lol
15:05 killakee whats stomper ?
15:06 Seroster The coin crusher
15:06 killakee its the coin shrink thingamagig tgg are making
15:06 killakee seroster : is it done ?
15:06 Electricguy wannabe1987, ahh oki. hehe :)
15:07 Electricguy gonna get some coffee!
15:07 Seroster Stomper?
15:07 killakee yea
15:07 wannabe1987 i thought they disassembled it....
15:07 Seroster Stomper 1.0 was made
15:07 Seroster And killed
15:07 killakee hehe
15:07 Seroster Stomper 1.5 was made, and tested, and actually shrank a quarter
15:07 killakee i meant the last one ..
15:07 Seroster Now it is disassembled, the caps are painted red and the power rails are properly made
15:08 killakee im so looking forward to se the stompmister done and working :D
15:08 Seroster The 1.5 had two caps, the 2.0 will have three
15:09 Seroster The power rails will be more effective (more power to the coin due to less losses) and it will be a much more comprehensible design
15:09 killakee has three ?
15:09 Seroster Capcaitors
15:09 Seroster So it's a 50% increase of power
15:09 killakee h... yeah
15:10 Seroster In essence it works by chargin up a bunch of capacitors to A LOT of joules, and then it is all instantly dumped into a coil of (pretty skinny) wire wound around the quarter
15:11 Seroster The electricity melts the copper coil, but before that it creates enough of an electromagnetic field to crush the atoms together
15:11 Seroster I could talk about why and how you shrink stuff
15:11 killakee hey is a shrinked quarter harder to bend ?
15:12 Electricguy it gets smaller and thicker, so yeah
15:13 killakee ah.. cool way to harden stuff :D
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15:13 Seroster Yes
15:13 Seroster The mass is the same too
15:14 killakee cool
15:14 Seroster killakee, First you make a machine that does X, and THEN you find an application
15:14 killakee hehe like hardening a blade :D
15:14 Seroster When they made the laser they didnt know what to do with it, then it evolved to pointers, distance measurement and nuclear fission
15:14 killakee i know :)
15:14 Seroster Shrinking a blade in a good way will be hard but possible
15:15 killakee smithing done in a nanosec :D
15:17 Electricguy not very controlled though
15:17 killakee hehe..
15:17 Seroster YET
15:18 Electricguy true. if you figure out how the fields and eddy currents move you should be able to control it
15:18 Electricguy somewhat.. XD
15:19 yNos users are the bane of a sysadmin's existestance.
15:19 yNos but i guess everyone is someone else's user...
15:20 yNos have a guy who is such a poor app admin that we put him on his own machine..
15:20 yNos he was squashing other users, eating all system resources.. lack of planning -etc.
15:21 yNos so he is trying to make it so his app doesnt use swap.
15:21 tonsofpcs ugh... I need a MP3 encode > Icecast utility quickly...  SimpleCast is no longer available and there's licensing issues with SAMCast.
15:21 tonsofpcs Omnia A/XE does not properly handle streaming to icecast.
15:21 yNos tried explaining that even if he doesnt use swap, it will show a % of swab being used because of how HP/UX allocates memory.
15:22 yNos what are you using as a streaming source?
15:22 tonsofpcs obvious solution: claim all memory for $hisapp!
15:22 tonsofpcs soundcard.
15:22 tonsofpcs Windows XP 32.
15:23 yNos whats wrong with winamp?
15:23 tonsofpcs huh?
15:23 yNos winamp has a plugin to stream..
15:23 tonsofpcs Oddsock is no longer available.
15:24 tonsofpcs also, how does that work with a live soundcard input?
15:24 yNos we use it @ tgg radiostation
15:25 tonsofpcs If only Spacial would just sell me another license to SimpleCast...... ugh... it's so hard to give some people money.
15:25 yNos http://wiki.winamp.com/wiki/Source_​DSP_Plug-in_Configuration_Examples iirc...
15:26 BotSteve Title: Source DSP Plug-in Configuration Examples - Winamp Developer Wiki
15:26 yNos i think this is what you need...
15:26 sndwrx yeesh I haven't used the WinAMP plugin in at least five or six years.
15:26 sndwrx haha.
15:26 tonsofpcs I can't connect to my server in shoutcast mode, I need to connect to it as a true icecast client
15:26 sndwrx But yeah back then, it worked pretty well.
15:32 yNos does the win32 client from icecast not fit your needs?
15:34 yNos nvm.. looks like that is server only
15:38 yNos http://www.icecast.org/3rdparty.php
15:38 BotSteve Title: Icecast.org
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15:50 tonsofpcs right, icecast is the server.
15:50 tonsofpcs you need a streaming client to feed it
15:50 tonsofpcs I found a copy of edcast that supposedly works, going to go try it now
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15:54 lee-school hi
15:54 lee-school anyone here
15:57 yNos hiya lee
15:57 sndwrx hey lee
15:57 yNos tonsofpcs: the above link is for the 3rd party apps that can act as a source.
15:57 lee-school i figured out what im going to ctc for
15:58 lee-school computer technology
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16:21 BatSteve what up
16:21 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
16:21 BotSteve At 07:31Z, Cprossu asked me to tell BatSteve for values of 9000000000 years (didn't find the low end cutoff) we get a nice little value is too large for defined data type, consider limiting .in to something that's actually sane (despite the fact it's cool to tell a bot to tell you things long after the human race has ended)
16:22 Seroster Yo battie
16:24 NeWtoz oh man, TEDx
16:24 BatSteve heyo Seroster!
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16:26 Seroster Sup?
16:26 Seroster Set a topic in #tgg_nsfw
16:26 * BatSteve saw Ponko's connect string:  "host86-162-65-77.range86-162.btcentralplus.com"  and thought it said "Biceps plus"
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16:27 Ponko lol
16:27 BatSteve hi SuperPhosphate
16:28 SuperPhosphate Hello
16:29 NeWtoz I want to go to TEDx :(
16:31 brousch NeWtoz: they are doing the application thing again this year, but only after last year's attendees have a chance to buy tickets first
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16:38 Ponko BatSteve i have Biceps plus :P
16:39 BatSteve I thought so!
16:39 Ponko yes late reply i know i'm busy
16:40 Ponko hmm what's the date BatSteve.....
16:41 * Ponko pounds fist into other hand
16:44 * Ponko thinks BatSteve has run away because he knows what's coming lol
16:45 * Ponko has killed chat....
16:45 Seroster Ey BatSteve
16:45 Seroster Sup?
16:45 Ponko oh thanks for the save Sero
16:45 BatSteve sorry, I was fixing BotSteve
16:46 BatSteve BotSteve: tell Cprossu that remind should be fixed now for any value of n, no matter how ludicrously big
16:46 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
16:46 BatSteve what's the date?
16:46 Ponko yep
16:48 * Ponko gives BatSteve a pint of beer (his favourite one)
16:49 BatSteve (grin)
16:49 Ponko :P lol
16:58 Ponko BatSteve you ever played Mortal Kombat?
17:00 BatSteve Sure have!
17:00 wannabe1987 going swimming....
17:00 wannabe1987 bbl
17:01 Seroster BotSteve: remind two years Happy belated birthday!
17:01 Seroster .remind two years Happy belated birthday!
17:01 Seroster FARK
17:02 BatSteve (grin)
17:03 BatSteve (dot) in two years
17:03 BatSteve .in 10 seconds tell seroster something
17:03 BotSteve BatSteve: Okay, will remind in 10 secs
17:03 BotSteve BatSteve: tell seroster something
17:06 Seroster .in two years tell BatSteve Bot may be fixed but I still love you more than I love him!
17:06 BotSteve Seroster: Sorry, didn't understand the input.
17:06 BatSteve Wow, you fail hard today
17:06 BatSteve :P
17:08 Seroster .in 5000000000 seconds tell BatSteve I HATE YOU
17:08 BotSteve Seroster: Okay, will remind on 26 Apr 2170 at 02:01Z
17:08 BatSteve back in a minute or three
17:11 Ponko well BatSteve the guy who played Shang Tsung in MK and Lui Kang in MK and MK II (Ho-Sung Pak) the guy who played Johnny Cage in MK & MK II (Daniel Pesina) and the sound guy Dan 'Toasty' Forden i'm friends with all 3 of them :P lol
17:32 * killakee^away have made enough ozone for today...
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17:53 BatSteve Ponko: you're friends with them?  How?
17:54 Ponko lol i met them when i was in Chicago lol
17:55 Ponko i met TOASTY before the NFC Championship game and well talked to him and hit it off then i only recently found him on fb lol
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18:09 mashpriborintorg hiya
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18:15 BatSteve hiya mash
18:19 Seroster Amuse me BatSteve
18:21 BatSteve .g qwop
18:21 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.foddy.net/Athletics.html
18:21 BatSteve there you go Seroster
18:25 Seroster fifteen meters ARR
18:38 mashpriborintorg there's weird things in chinese desert http://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.458679,93.31314%​09&amp;hl=en&amp;ll=40.456026,93.397179&amp;spn=0​.022434,0.052142&amp;sll=40.458018,93.392587&amp;​sspn=0.0208,0.040426&amp;vpsrc=6&amp;t=h&amp;z=15
18:38 BotSteve Title: 40.458679,93.31314 - Google Maps
18:40 mashpriborintorg several artefacts in the same area and an incredible amount of vehicle tracks
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18:48 DruidicRifleman what am i looking at?
18:49 mashpriborintorg nodody knows
18:49 mashpriborintorg maybe a nuclear testing site
18:51 DruidicRifleman nooo i've seen sat photo's of one of them... that doesn't look like one
18:52 mashpriborintorg so it's some sdigns for the aliens :p
18:53 mashpriborintorg strange things and they are currently working on it , it's not an abandonned thing
18:54 mashpriborintorg a little more on the west you have a circular shape with fighter jets airframes in the middle
18:54 mashpriborintorg http://maps.google.com/maps?q=40.458679,93.31314%​09&amp;hl=en&amp;ll=40.458691,93.312823&amp;spn=0​.002873,0.006539&amp;sll=40.458018,93.392587&amp;​sspn=0.0208,0.040426&amp;vpsrc=6&amp;t=h&amp;z=18
18:54 BotSteve Title: 40.458679,93.31314 - Google Maps
18:55 Ponko hmmm
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19:00 DruidicRifleman mash there is a 3rd possibility
19:00 DruidicRifleman a chinesse secferate work program designed to confuse western inteligence officals
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19:01 mashpriborintorg oh yeah
19:01 mashpriborintorg that would be very damn scelerate
19:01 DruidicRifleman you know that sadly makes sense
19:01 DruidicRifleman Secret
19:01 DruidicRifleman it's morning here
19:01 DruidicRifleman well for me atleast
19:02 mashpriborintorg while trying to understand what's happening down there, they will not pay attention to something else elsewhere
19:03 DruidicRifleman yep
19:04 * mashpriborintorg searching the elsewhere
19:06 DruidicRifleman heck the brits built a few thousand papermatche spitfires and langcasters
19:06 DruidicRifleman And let the jerries bomb them
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19:24 Ponko uhohrunawayitskate
19:24 Ponko i mean hai Katemonster
19:24 Ponko :P
19:25 Katemonster hi brit
19:26 Ponko :D
19:32 Ponko chat has..... gone VERY quiet
19:32 Electronics|AFK ...
19:34 Katemonster ...you are likely to be eaten by a grue.
19:34 Ponko oh really?
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19:44 DruidicRifleman ponko is here thats what happend
19:44 Ponko hmm -_-
19:44 yNos wish me luck and no cavities...
19:44 yNos later all
19:44 Ponko good luck with the dentist yNos
19:45 BatSteve later yNos
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19:46 DruidicRifleman later
19:46 mashpriborintorg last time i went to the dentist it was epic :(
19:46 producrbill what is going on everyone
19:46 BatSteve talking about dentistry
19:47 producrbill lol,,, a got just told me what is going on,,, that is funny
19:48 mashpriborintorg one of my rear tooth was broken, he wanted to remove it immediately but the damn tooth didn't cooperate, it needed one hour of battle to remove it
19:48 Ponko Hockey players.... Dentists best friends
19:48 producrbill lol
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19:55 DruidicRifleman Ponko some teams have an emergancy dental tech to minimalise oral damage
19:56 Ponko i know that but you get my point lol
19:56 BatSteve time to go!
19:57 wannabe1987 awww ok
19:57 wannabe1987 bye BatSteve-Away!
19:57 wannabe1987 BotSteve!
19:57 BotSteve wannabe1987!
19:57 Katemonster botsteve?
19:58 wannabe1987 hi kate
19:58 Ponko Bot-Steve
19:58 Katemonster batsteve had to go fly.
19:58 Katemonster hi kelly
19:58 Katemonster bye kelly
19:58 Katemonster (gtg do homework)
19:58 wannabe1987 bye? :(
19:58 wannabe1987 ahhh
19:58 wannabe1987 ok
19:58 Katemonster not failing = important
19:58 Katemonster later
19:58 wannabe1987 yes
19:58 wannabe1987 it is
19:58 wannabe1987 bye
20:01 dbshortwave o.o
20:01 wannabe1987 hi
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20:01 dbshortwave hi
20:01 producerbill ha
20:02 producerbill hour of calibration only to fail everything....
20:02 wannabe1987 aw :(
20:02 dbshortwave x.x
20:02 producerbill do it again thinking it must be a fluke
20:02 producerbill but know fail again
20:02 producerbill no
20:02 producerbill Dakota
20:02 producerbill lol damit
20:03 producerbill how is everyone today
20:03 dbshortwave i'd be better if i wanst fixing this traffic light lens
20:03 DruidicRifleman sooooo does any one know whats happening with GH5
20:04 wannabe1987 i ate all my el fudge yesterday, now theres nothing to nom on :(
20:04 wannabe1987 no druid
20:04 producerbill no I don't even know what Gh5 is
20:04 wannabe1987 geek house 6
20:04 wannabe1987 5*
20:05 producerbill I see
20:05 producerbill nothing much has been going on down there
20:06 DruidicRifleman Soooo the bought it started tear out and then forgot about it?
20:06 producerbill we did some demo, and clean up, but the main effect has been going to fixing the lab up and getting to full Blanche
20:06 wannabe1987 no, too much going on at the lab, bit off more than they could chew
20:07 producerbill launch
20:07 mashpriborintorg but the lab is almost done no ?
20:07 wannabe1987 it'll never be "done" :p
20:07 producerbill maybe Chris needs to do a run through
20:07 mashpriborintorg sure :p
20:08 wannabe1987 maybe theres no funds to do GH5
20:08 producerbill I am sure we will never be "done" but room are starting to be completed
20:08 wannabe1987 yes
20:08 producerbill rooms
20:08 mashpriborintorg starting to open the lab to paying members is the key I believe
20:08 producerbill yes
20:08 producerbill and the more help the faster
20:09 producerbill if I had to pick one place that needs the most work it would be the down stairs
20:09 wannabe1987 yeah, i don't live close enough...
20:09 wannabe1987 mhm  hows the computer room coming? :P
20:10 producerbill done,,, now cluttered with computers
20:10 producerbill parts, and such... needs to get organized
20:10 mashpriborintorg in one of the latest blogs they were working in the sheep room
20:10 Seroster .bored
20:10 BotSteve Maybe you should...Increase your territorial holdings by force
20:10 * Seroster beats his wife
20:10 Seroster Thankyou botsteve!
20:11 killaway^skyrim :o
20:11 mashpriborintorg no news about the poo room and the electronics lab room tho
20:11 * Seroster grabs the axe and rings the neighbors doorbell
20:11 * killakee hates his dremel :(
20:11 producerbill ya the sheep room is coming along. The removal of the steam pipes is slowing thing down.
20:12 wannabe1987 yeah....he blames my dog on the poo room but he was never out of our reach....
20:12 producerbill they are a mess to work with, but they are coming down and rooms are being peeped for paint.
20:13 Seroster Why do you hateyour dremel?
20:13 Seroster A dremel is a fucking awesome tool
20:13 dbshortwave damn
20:13 producerbill poo room,,, if it is the one I am thinking of it is clear, painted and ready.
20:13 dbshortwave -.-
20:13 Seroster QFT: BILL
20:14 producerbill as for electronics, well no progress yet.
20:14 producerbill hummm Aft?
20:14 producerbill QTF?
20:14 producerbill QFT
20:14 producerbill I must be getting old
20:15 wannabe1987 quoted for truth
20:15 producerbill lol
20:15 producerbill thanks
20:16 wannabe1987 no prob
20:16 producerbill truth is we are moving forward.
20:17 producerbill everyday some problem is solved or something is removed or cleaned, or installed.
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20:18 producerbill I know from experience some days are just lugging rubbish out to the dumpster, but I feel great after doing so.
20:18 mashpriborintorg it is so huge... but watching again the videos from january 2011 shows all the incredible work that has been done
20:18 producerbill I think I got some geek pride going.
20:19 producerbill if someone had the time someone should make a recap video
20:21 producerbill because you are right a lot of work has been done.
20:25 DruidicRifleman I'd help but unless i could couch surf the issue becomes One of very limited time of stay
20:27 * dbshortwave punches the keyboard
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20:28 tlockley Afternoon
20:28 wannabe1987 hi
20:29 killakee seroster  what i hate is that my dremel got hungry :P
20:29 killakee finger hungry
20:29 dbshortwave hi
20:31 DruidicRifleman Bill You really should get as much before footage/pics as you can and do like 5 videos of whats been going on
20:31 DruidicRifleman least it would put content on the main channel
20:32 DruidicRifleman And he logs out ass i say that
20:32 wannabe1987 hi pinged, he didnt log out....
20:32 wannabe1987 he involuntarily logged out
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20:33 mashpriborintorg a new complete walkaround of the lab should be great
20:41 mashpriborintorg well, going to sleep cheers
20:41 wannabe1987 night!
20:41 wannabe1987 sleep well
20:42 dbshortwave BTW play it SMART change your smoke detector batterys
20:43 dbshortwave should have been a reminder on the time change
20:43 wannabe1987 ...
20:43 wannabe1987 yes
20:43 wannabe1987 why are you saying this now
20:44 wannabe1987 i don't know if we have one/some
20:44 wannabe1987 ...
20:44 dbshortwave cause i just changed mine
20:44 mashpriborintorg my smoke detector is my nose
20:44 wannabe1987 ah
20:44 dbshortwave that dont always work
20:44 killakee my smokedetector saved my life ...
20:44 killakee but not the house..
20:45 mashpriborintorg doh
20:45 dbshortwave the other reason why is cause i just had to replace a cored on a heater
20:45 dbshortwave cord*
20:46 dbshortwave 1500 watt oil heater
20:46 killakee 50 minuts to render a youtube vid .. argh..
20:46 dbshortwave fun
20:46 dbshortwave BTW make sure you check the 110AC units cause they have batterys in them too
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20:56 wannabe1987 i talk about life "how it is" and it disturbs people....maybe i should keep it all in again :sigh:
20:56 wannabe1987 hi injektion
20:57 Ponko maybe that's for the best
20:57 Ponko lol jk
20:57 temutjin How dare you break the silence?
20:58 masterofmonks Who are you disturbing wannabe1987?
20:58 SparkyProjects dbshortwave:  Some of the modern ones don't have batteries, they have large capacitors.
20:58 wannabe1987 my mom
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20:58 wannabe1987 and it wasn't something disturbing, really, it was about God and how down i've been feeling....
20:59 masterofmonks What about your diety?
20:59 wannabe1987 what about him?
20:59 injektion Hi all
21:00 masterofmonks " it was about God"
21:00 injektion I had another incident with ACL 56 today
21:00 masterofmonks I am curious what context that was in your conversation.
21:01 wannabe1987 well, we're all christians and stuff, and we were talking about how God is good and stuff and he's not doing "good" for me righ tnow......i was expressing my self and it "disturbed" my mom....
21:01 wannabe1987 i forgot she was friends with this person i had the convo with on her status.....otherwise it wouldn't've been had...
21:03 masterofmonks I see.
21:03 Ponko the pastor you mean
21:05 masterofmonks injektion: Inhaled much?
21:05 wannabe1987 what about the pastor, Ponko?
21:06 Ponko was that the friend you were on about
21:06 wannabe1987 no, my bestie...
21:06 Ponko oh ok
21:07 injektion masterofmonks, You can call it what you want but the dust collector wash't working well and there was another cloud of it floating around the plant
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21:09 DruidicRifleman killakee did your stove catch fire or something last night around 745 ish?
21:11 killakee huh?
21:11 killakee how so ?
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21:12 wannabe1987 why does everyone think that its so easy to get a job?
21:12 killakee wannabe tell me abuote it :(
21:12 wannabe1987 rephrase:
21:12 wannabe1987 why do PARENTS who are NOT IN THE JOB MARKET think its so easy to get a job?
21:12 wannabe1987 its not
21:12 wannabe1987 everyone
21:12 wannabe1987 else
21:12 wannabe1987 is
21:12 wannabe1987 m
21:12 wannabe1987 ore
21:12 wannabe1987 qualified
21:13 wannabe1987 than
21:13 wannabe1987 i
21:13 wannabe1987 am
21:13 masterofmonks wannabe1987: because it is easy to get a job, getting a good job is not.
21:13 wannabe1987 they both have Great jobs...why do you think i want to go back to school....get an EMT certificate or soemthing, more job opportunities....
21:13 killakee druidricfleman: why you ask ?
21:13 producerbill I don't know I have only been unemployed for a mouth since I was 15
21:14 producerbill and that was like 9. years ago
21:14 producerbill wow,,, I am getting old
21:14 masterofmonks pfff
21:14 killakee HAHA
21:15 masterofmonks Wait until you are 30.
21:15 killakee no your not
21:15 killakee master same here ;)
21:15 killakee 30 what a shitty age :P
21:15 producerbill 30 here
21:16 masterofmonks 30-15!=9
21:16 wannabe1987 mhm
21:16 producerbill no I have had this job for 9 years
21:16 wannabe1987 oooo you didn't say that
21:16 producerbill at 15 I got a job at a gun club.
21:16 producerbill then McDonald
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21:17 producerbill then a environmental company
21:17 producerbill the electric motor commutator company
21:17 masterofmonks producerbill: what sort of environmental company?
21:17 producerbill then a weather sensor company
21:18 DruidicRifleman A friend of mines house almost burned down last night
21:18 producerbill it was a environmental scrubber company
21:18 producerbill thing that chrome player have to have
21:19 DruidicRifleman Hey bill
21:19 producerbill platers
21:19 producerbill what's up
21:19 killakee druidricfleman: ah no my house burned to the ground for 3 years ago..
21:19 DruidicRifleman you should really see about doing a Before and Whats happend in the
21:19 DruidicRifleman lab video series
21:19 masterofmonks producerbill: Ah.
21:19 producerbill I have no video
21:20 producerbill that is all captain
21:20 producerbill I could maybe do something but I have nothing to edit together.
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21:21 producerbill it is a great idea
21:23 producerbill I need a guide or something on designing good computer interfaces.
21:24 producerbill I am thinking I would like to take my interfaces to the next/more professional level
21:25 wannabe1987 afk
21:25 producerbill well heading home
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21:34 injektion http://gizmodo.com/5859717/toilet-​trouble-on-navy-carrier-leaves-500​0-sailors-doing-the-pee-pee-dance
21:34 BotSteve Title: Toilet Trouble on Navy Carrier Leaves 5000 Sailors Doing the Pee Pee Dance
21:34 lwq1996 hi
21:37 killakee hey i got two questions for you on this video : http://www.youtube.com/user/kjella​re?feature=mhee#p/u/0/MYPwcK2TIOI
21:37 BotSteve Title: kjellare's Channel - YouTube
21:38 killakee yes it is :)
21:38 killakee can someon answer the questions i ask in this video
21:39 lwq1996 i fixed my trumpet valve
21:39 lwq1996 :D
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21:42 dbshortwave i died
21:42 lwq1996 i see that
21:43 * KB3NZQ sarts playing taps for dbshortwave
21:43 lwq1996 lol
21:43 KB3NZQ yea for having a car running on all 6 cylinders
21:44 KB3NZQ again it has been like 6 months since it started to misfire
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21:46 KB3NZQ it is a B**ch to change the #1 spark plug on a 3.5L V6 with out removing the alternator
21:46 injektion lol
21:46 injektion It's a lot easier on a straight 6 :P
21:49 Ponko lol try changing one on a Boxer engine
21:50 KB3NZQ i know that my mom used to have a 1996 Jeep cherkee classic (pardon the spelling) with a 4L inline 6
21:50 Ponko on an old VW beetle its ok but any rear engine Porsche for me has been a nightmare
21:51 * KB3NZQ is going back to watching youtube now
21:51 Ponko lol
21:52 DruidicRifleman I saw a guy who put a V8 in a ww2 willies jeep
21:52 DruidicRifleman there was room to spare in the engion bay
21:53 wannabe1987 back
21:53 DruidicRifleman the motor in them there things is SMALL
21:53 wannabe1987 my phone is a poopy phone
21:53 DruidicRifleman ...
21:53 DruidicRifleman what did you do
21:53 injektion Ponko, Not a fan of boxer engines
21:54 Ponko who yourself?
21:54 injektion Yes
21:54 killakee no one ?
21:54 injektion Mainly because every boxer engine I have seen has a timing belt :(
21:54 killakee i realy want to know what thouse things are
21:55 tgg|yNos ajprog_laptop: you around?
21:55 Ponko yep they NEED TO BE ACCURATE TO THE LAST TOOTH
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21:55 Ponko .w Boxer engine
21:55 BotSteve "A flat engine is an internal combustion engine with multiple pistons that move in a horizontal plane." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_engine
21:55 tgg|yNos injektion: the vw boxers were pushrod engines...
21:55 Ponko and they were epic
21:55 tgg|yNos yup
21:55 tgg|yNos i have a few in my garage ;)
21:55 wannabe1987 hi zimm_swe
21:56 Ponko but least they evolved unlike ford
21:56 Ponko who STILL have valve clearances for their new cars
21:56 Ponko ok that might just be UK ford
21:56 tgg|yNos everything has valve clearences...
21:56 Ponko but still
21:57 Ponko no i mean it's the same system they had in the 60'd
21:57 zimm_swe hi
21:57 Ponko hello
21:57 tgg|yNos if the hydro lifters take up the slak, that is another thing..
21:57 tgg|yNos hiya zimm_swe
21:57 killakee hi zimm
21:57 killakee you from sweeden ?
21:57 wannabe1987 yes
21:57 wannabe1987 like Seroster
21:57 wannabe1987 ....
21:58 killakee cool
21:58 zimm_swe yes i am
21:58 injektion The CEO of Ford (Alan Mulally) said the Lexus LS400 was a good car
21:58 * tgg|yNos still cant feel his face..
21:58 killakee norway here
21:58 injektion I don't think the LS400 is a good car
21:58 tgg|yNos i am in little poland.
21:58 zimm_swe nice
21:58 tgg|yNos aka, westside grand rapids michigan.
21:59 wannabe1987 ....wy can't you feel your face?
21:59 DruidicRifleman yNos do you know what the goal is for stomper?
21:59 tgg|yNos just got back from the dentist.
21:59 wannabe1987 ahhhh
21:59 DruidicRifleman like how many caps it will have
21:59 tgg|yNos went in for an inspection, had him ask if i wanted to take care of it now.. his 4pm had cancelled.
22:00 tgg|yNos 3 caps for stompers.
22:00 Ponko but less of a douche
22:00 Ponko oh wait sorry was up a page
22:00 tgg|yNos the next iteration of stomper will have the monster caps in it.
22:00 wannabe1987 lolololol
22:00 wannabe1987 Ponko fail
22:01 Ponko :P
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22:01 wannabe1987 its all hopeless sometimes.....remind me why we keep moving forward?
22:02 wannabe1987 i was happy until mom started talking to me.....
22:02 * tgg|yNos is still high from the NO2
22:03 DruidicRifleman Sooo it will never be bigger then 3?
22:03 * wannabe1987 has never used that at the dentist (or outside)
22:03 wannabe1987 they normally inject me....
22:03 injektion I love IV sedation
22:03 tgg|yNos **N2O
22:03 DruidicRifleman XD!!! laughing gas
22:03 killakee i tryed no2 when my 2nd kid got born XD
22:04 wannabe1987 ....
22:04 killakee yes n2o
22:04 killakee heh
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22:05 DruidicRifleman I wanna build a hybrid rocket
22:05 DruidicRifleman well motor...
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22:06 wannabe1987 hi Grant_
22:06 Grant_ hello
22:06 wannabe1987 are you new?
22:06 Grant_ Yes, just found the site
22:06 wannabe1987 welcome!
22:06 wannabe1987 how'd you find us?
22:06 Grant_ Thank you
22:07 wannabe1987 whats your geek "territory"?
22:07 Electricguy bedtime! :P night night all!
22:08 wannabe1987 night Electricguy
22:08 zimm_swe_ night
22:08 Electricguy o7
22:08 Grant_ oklahoma motors and pumps
22:10 wannabe1987 motors and pumps?
22:10 wannabe1987 like what kind of pumps?
22:10 Grant_ i was looking for education info
22:10 wannabe1987 ahhh
22:11 Ponko hmm what should i do peeps play on my PS3 or PS2?
22:12 zimm_swe_ what games?
22:13 egrsteve|away morning all
22:13 wannabe1987 hi steve
22:13 zimm_swe_ morning
22:13 killaway^ZZzz night yall
22:13 egrsteve hi kelly
22:13 wannabe1987 Grant_  - what kind of education?
22:13 wannabe1987 night killaway^ZZzz
22:13 egrsteve night killaway
22:14 DruidicRifleman hey steve
22:15 Grant_ Electricity
22:16 Ponko zimm_swe it doesn't matter which games but which one should i play i can decide which game to play later
22:16 wannabe1987 ps
22:16 zimm_swe_ ps3 then
22:20 Ponko okey dokey
22:24 Ponko time for some brink
22:24 Ponko save or escape the ark
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22:26 Ponko robocop?
22:27 Ponko well his name was Murphy
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22:35 wannabe1987 .pie wannabe1987
22:35 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I made you a apple pie!
22:35 wannabe1987 fail
22:35 wannabe1987 .pie wannabe1987
22:35 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I made you a peanut butter pie!
22:35 wannabe1987 WIN
22:35 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
22:35 BotSteve You're welcome, wannabe1987
22:46 injektion Who makes a good fountain pen?
22:51 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos: Geek Group CNC #3 - How To Use An Edgefinder http://youtu.be/hq45VlHtw0o
22:56 wannabe1987 injektion i don't know
22:57 injektion (I am probably the only young person that likes fountain pens)
22:58 masterofmonks Not true.
23:03 wannabe1987 define fountain pen
23:03 DruidicRifleman After the quill but before ball point pens
23:04 wannabe1987 lol druid you're a hoot
23:04 injektion Cartridge fountain pens
23:04 egrsteve anyone notice the error on th new main channel video?
23:04 injektion Like this http://www.jetpens.com/Platinum-Preppy-Fo​untain-Pen-Fine-03-Nib-Black-Ink/pd/1454
23:04 BotSteve Title: Platinum Preppy Fountain Pen - Fine 03 Nib - Black Ink - JetPens.com
23:05 egrsteve CNC #3?
23:05 DruidicRifleman http://www.montblanc.com/en-us​/shop/writing-instruments.aspx Suppsoedly the best
23:05 BotSteve Title: Shop Writing Instruments - Ballpoints & Fountain Pens - Montblanc.com
23:07 wannabe1987 only $1,105
23:07 SparkyProjects egrsteve: there have been 3 CNC vids, or is it something else you noticed
23:08 injektion I don't need a 1k fountain pen
23:08 DruidicRifleman you asked who makes a good one...
23:08 egrsteve 3rd video edgefinder one
23:09 egrsteve error on the youtube page
23:09 DruidicRifleman http://www.montblanc.com/en-us/shop/writ​ing-instruments/starwalker/black-resin-p​latinum/m25600-fountain-pen-08482.aspx they make a 500 dollar one
23:10 BotSteve Title: Starwalker Resin Fountain Pen
23:10 Cprossu hey egrsteve what's up?
23:10 BotSteve Cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
23:10 BotSteve At 16:46Z, BatSteve asked me to tell Cprossu that remind should be fixed now for any value of n, no matter how ludicrously big
23:10 SparkyProjects I don't see any page errors :/
23:11 Cprossu woot.
23:11 egrsteve reread the description
23:12 SparkyProjects " Rick and Chris show us the basics of how to pick up an  edge of a part on the TM-1 lathe."
23:12 egrsteve .in 2^99999999999 hours remind cprossu it works
23:12 BotSteve egrsteve: Okay, will remind at 23:14Z
23:12 egrsteve :(
23:12 egrsteve yes, there you don't see the error
23:12 Cprossu .in 900000000000000000000000000000 years tell egrsteve no error that you see at least
23:12 BotSteve Cprossu: That's a bit unlikely, don't you think?
23:12 Cprossu but it did give you an unintended result egrsteve
23:13 Cprossu good he fixed it the way I had intended
23:13 Cprossu .in 9000 years tell egrsteve no error that you see at least
23:13 BotSteve Cprossu: That's a bit unlikely, don't you think?
23:13 SparkyProjects So what error are you seeing ?
23:13 Cprossu .in 5000 years tell egrsteve no error that you see at least
23:13 BotSteve Cprossu: That's a bit unlikely, don't you think?
23:13 Cprossu SparkyProjects he fixed it
23:13 egrsteve TM-1 lathe... Tool MILL 1
23:13 Cprossu but if you look at egrsteve's request it was not parsed correctly
23:14 SparkyProjects No wonder i couldn't see it :P
23:14 BotSteve egrsteve: ^99999999999 hours remind cprossu it works
23:14 egrsteve it's a mill not a lathe
23:14 Cprossu .in 1000 years tell egrsteve no error that you see at least
23:14 BotSteve Cprossu: That's a bit unlikely, don't you think?
23:14 Cprossu .in 500 years tell egrsteve no error that you see at least
23:14 BotSteve Cprossu: That's a bit unlikely, don't you think?
23:14 Cprossu .in 100 years tell egrsteve no error that you see at least
23:14 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind on 16 Nov 2111 at 23:14Z
23:14 DruidicRifleman inkster?
23:14 Cprossu rofl cool
23:14 Cprossu now the fun part.
23:15 Cprossu leap year calculations
23:15 DruidicRifleman i mean inkjection
23:15 egrsteve .in 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 seconds tell cprossu it doesnt' work
23:15 BotSteve egrsteve: That's a bit unlikely, don't you think?
23:15 Cprossu eg is the 1 day off just
23:17 Seroster Tjenare svenneman
23:17 Seroster And, Hello sparky
23:17 Seroster How are you today?
23:18 egrsteve annoyed, thanks for asking
23:18 Seroster You =! Sparky.
23:19 egrsteve I know, hence the thanks for asking
23:20 egrsteve sorry, sarcasm is tricky in IRC
23:20 Seroster There are 67 users in this room. I can ask them all if it makes you feel happier. Personally I think asking the people I care about is less obnoxious.
23:20 Cprossu o_o
23:21 Seroster And yes, things often seem a fair bit harsher in written form.
23:23 wannabe1987 .c 98*7
23:23 BotSteve 686
23:26 Cprossu egrsteve, surely you jest!
23:27 Cprossu so hrmmm.
23:27 wannabe1987 my computer is possessed
23:28 DruidicRifleman throw holy water at it
23:28 wannabe1987 ....
23:28 wannabe1987 no, i spill enough liquids on it as it is
23:28 Cprossu good one
23:29 Cprossu I've put off this long enough (Goes and grabs his newly spare motherboard )
23:31 Cprossu this a64 x2 4200+ will make my new streaming 'mule' testbed.
23:31 DruidicRifleman I wonder if tgg Could build an auto targeting lazer dazzler turret....
23:32 DruidicRifleman well... more like legally use it in the labs security system
23:33 Cprossu the previous 'stream mule' due to a long set of cascading circumstances is mostly in ynos's gaming computer now
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23:39 DruidicRifleman WB bill
23:39 producerbill hi there
23:40 producerbill what does the night bring
23:41 wannabe1987 hidden deer
23:41 wannabe1987 :glare:
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23:44 DruidicRifleman SHOOT IT!!!
23:44 producerbill bang
23:44 DruidicRifleman Whats the most powerfull lazer the lab could force into one of those camera housings
23:45 Toastdude Yay, deer meat!
23:47 masterofmonks DruidicRifleman: Probably about 2W
23:47 masterofmonks But heat dissipation and cost would be the real bitch.
23:47 wannabe1987 DruidicRifleman no weapon in the car....and no tag....
23:48 masterofmonks Only need a tag if you.. need a tag.
23:49 DruidicRifleman I am curious about using one of those boxes to house a lazer dazzler and thebn hooking the dazzler up to an uato mated turret
23:54 Cprossu DruidicRifleman: with fiber optics, anything.
23:55 Cprossu as for your idea, no go I am sad to say.
23:55 DruidicRifleman Liability?
23:55 Cprossu it's still up in the air if they work.
23:55 Cprossu by dazzler you mean the laser devises that are supposed to induce confusion??
23:55 Cprossu *devices
23:56 Cprossu damn I am starting to spell like you

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