Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-16

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00:01 NeWtoz i c tat
00:05 wannabe1987 masterofmonks - true....i wonder if my uncle would process it if i didn't pay....:hmmm:
00:05 wannabe1987 or if i traded work for the process :P
00:06 DruidicRifleman your uncles a butcher?
00:06 wannabe1987 mhm
00:11 brousch joined #thegeekgroup
00:12 DruidicRifleman and yeah
00:12 DruidicRifleman Just pulsed lazer strobe basicly
00:15 Isopropyl|Kindle joined #thegeekgroup
00:15 Isopropyl|Kindle hey hey hey
00:15 producerbill I know nothing about lasers,,,, but I would love to learn
00:15 Cprossu hrmmm
00:15 Cprossu egrsteve you still around?
00:15 Cprossu I had an idea cross my mind.
00:16 egrsteve no
00:16 Cprossu I think now that we've got most of the stream stuff working well
00:16 Cprossu I may try a backup stream going to ustream
00:16 egrsteve ok
00:16 Isopropyl|Kindle Cprossu i have chiptunes running in vent
00:16 Cprossu I'll have to confir with yNos to see how much bw we've got
00:16 Cprossu Isopropyl|Kindle: you logged in as yourself as well?
00:16 Cprossu lol
00:17 Cprossu obv not
00:17 wannabe1987 Isopropyl|Kindle  hi
00:17 Cprossu I've been following the protests as they've been driven out and got back into the park
00:17 Cprossu interesting times.
00:17 egrsteve it would be best to push it through a ipv6 tunnel
00:17 Isopropyl|Kindle hey
00:18 Seroster Hooked my 16BAR 4liter compressor tank to my old 190BAR 6liter fire extinguisher. Kinda freaks me out when filling
00:18 Cprossu I'm really tempted to make an ipv6 setup back at my house to fool around with it
00:18 Cprossu egrsteve: got another chip and motherboard to dedicate to the cause.
00:19 Cprossu I haven't had my own test rig here since I brought the last one up and it unfortunately ended up being our main stream server
00:19 egrsteve I'm waiting for the OWS to be brought to the supreme court and all of the police brutality claims to be investigated
00:19 egrsteve it could be interesting
00:19 Cprossu it didn't seem to me they went too far off their bases, at least no one was killed.
00:20 Ponko joined #thegeekgroup
00:20 Seroster Wb ponko
00:20 Sgt_Lemming morning all
00:20 Cprossu they've been acting very different now that they have 3-9 people who are livestreaming and that nearly everyone has cell phones and cameras
00:20 Sgt_Lemming actually up at a resonable hour for a change
00:20 egrsteve still messy from what I can tell
00:21 Isopropyl|Kindle whatd i miss involving cops
00:21 egrsteve the media blackout of there eviction could be a strength to the OWS cause
00:22 egrsteve if the police actions were controled it would not matter if the media was there
00:22 wannabe1987 http://americancensorship.org/infographic.html
00:22 BotSteve Title: SOPA Infographic
00:22 DruidicRifleman i still think the media should be paying attention to fast and furious,.,.,.
00:22 Sgt_Lemming ...?
00:22 egrsteve it would show police camly handeling it, but I doubt thats how it wwtn down
00:22 Isopropyl|Kindle ah. occupy stuff.
00:24 dbshortwave http://americancensorship.org/
00:24 BotSteve Title: American Censorship Day November 16 - Join the fight to stop SOPA
00:24 Isopropyl|Kindle unless its savinging kittens the cops usually look shady in the media
00:24 egrsteve my point exactly
00:24 Isopropyl|Kindle lol inging
00:24 egrsteve and the kitty was a plant
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00:25 egrsteve the idea of DNS based blocking in the US is rediculious
00:25 Isopropyl|Kindle lol yea
00:26 injektion lol
00:26 Seroster Isopropyl|Kindle, A news story about cops doing what they are supposed to do won't sell.
00:26 tonsofpcs dns based blocking?
00:26 Seroster If they shoot a baby in the face- THEN you have a scoop.
00:27 egrsteve I do not promote the act of piracy, but if you make you product avalible how the market wants it piracy is reduced, look at netflix (I know iffy example but still) with movies on demand there is no need to pirate them
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00:27 tonsofpcs so like table.studiob.lsl.tgg.com is on the left, camera2.studiob.lsl.tgg.com is downstage, etc?
00:28 tonsofpcs egrsteve: oh, I had that discussion with a program provider and a rights holder who was trying to sell viewings of a show online for $1
00:28 Seroster When I fill my fire extinguisher (6liters) with 230PSI air... How much heavier does it get?
00:28 tonsofpcs the price isn't really the issue, the issue is it takes me 15 minutes of my time (minimum) to give you that dollar and in that time I can get it for free and already be watching.
00:29 tonsofpcs (the show we were discussing no longer costs anything to stream episodes of)
00:29 egrsteve big media needs to get with the time and moderize there buisness model and make it usable and easier than pirating
00:29 Isopropyl|Kindle i am too tall for my bathtub...
00:29 egrsteve untill it's easier than pirating pirates will exist
00:29 DruidicRifleman The issue is some shows like sons of anarchy arn't available in canada
00:29 tonsofpcs and I'd bet that everyone in this channel has watched it (yes, this includes you silly international types)
00:29 Seroster Isopropyl|Kindle, Wash yourself in 212degree water and tumbledry. You'll shrink. At least if you are a woolen shirt
00:30 tonsofpcs DruidicRifleman: you don't get FX there?
00:30 DruidicRifleman Nope
00:30 Seroster You know why I download?
00:30 tonsofpcs that sucks.  *just finished season 3 dvds*
00:30 egrsteve out of market?
00:30 Seroster http://thenextweb.com/files/2010/02/piratedvd.jpg
00:30 egrsteve time shifting
00:31 Seroster But I dont even have to do the step 1
00:31 egrsteve ya that sums it up, it's easier to pirate
00:32 egrsteve the pirates are makign the studios product a better product than the studios are
00:32 tonsofpcs Seroster: right, that's what netflix is for.
00:32 Seroster I don't own a TV
00:32 Seroster I don't have a DVD player
00:32 tonsofpcs 1) choose movie 2) watch movie
00:32 Isopropyl|Kindle You wouldn`t download A BEAR! lol
00:32 Seroster I can't play fucking dvds in my computer due to anti piracy BS
00:32 egrsteve VLC
00:32 eadthem VLC
00:32 Seroster Doesnt handle all.
00:32 eadthem or media player classic
00:32 DruidicRifleman i like the "you wouldn't down load a car" why wouldn't i if i could?
00:32 egrsteve it plays almost anything
00:33 Isopropyl|Kindle vlc rocks
00:33 tonsofpcs DruidicRifleman: because the fab@home kit would cost more.
00:33 egrsteve what does VLC not play?
00:33 Seroster Yes, I know that VLC is the only movie program that can play a word document, but it does not handle all DVDs without problem.
00:33 eadthem ive never met a dvd  yet   that wont play in both MPC and VLC
00:33 DruidicRifleman Still if i could down load a car i would TOTALLY down load a car
00:33 Seroster egrsteve, Star Trek Voyager seasons 1:7 on DVD.
00:33 tonsofpcs eadthem: I have one.
00:33 tonsofpcs it played fine in PowerDVD, btw
00:33 Isopropyl|Kindle i watch most of my tv online. mainly because of no commercials... well use to be.
00:33 Seroster I PAID FOR IT FOR FUCKS SAKE
00:34 Seroster ARgh
00:34 Seroster Isopropyl|Kindle, adblock.
00:34 tonsofpcs well, I don't exactly have it, a friend does
00:34 eadthem mmm and i wasnt counting the 1 that my brother decided to sand the bottom of to fix a scratch
00:34 DruidicRifleman more annoying then watching TV because it's the same one 3 or 4 times in a row
00:34 injektion What countries use this symbol?
00:34 injektion http://blog.homerenovationguide.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/corrosive.jpg
00:34 tonsofpcs eadthem: there's better ways to deal wth that
00:34 eadthem thats what i told him
00:34 egrsteve polishing?
00:34 eadthem thats what he thought he was doing
00:35 masterofmonks Oh look a corrosice plackard.
00:35 eadthem but with 220 grit
00:35 masterofmonks corrosive*
00:35 egrsteve try toothpaste :)
00:35 Seroster injektion, Not northern europe
00:35 Seroster Not any part of europe AFAIK
00:35 egrsteve thats about right grit
00:35 Seroster .w corrosive
00:35 tonsofpcs no, multiple-reads with a fault-tolerant system and a gaussian replacement bit for unreadables
00:35 BotSteve "A corrosive substance is one that will destroy or irreversibly damage another surface or substance with which it comes into contact." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrosive
00:35 eadthem not herd of toothpast  but ya that shuld do it
00:35 tonsofpcs injektion: mordor?
00:35 masterofmonks injektion: Let me look in my book right quick.
00:35 injektion Seroster, I know the EU uses the orange one with the test tubes
00:36 tonsofpcs eadthem: the baking soda non-fragranced kind
00:36 Seroster I think it speaks for itself =)
00:36 DruidicRifleman injektion those monblock pens are GOOD fountain pens and they have onbe thats 425 dollars
00:36 Isopropyl|Kindle im use to seeing the white triangle with the tipped tube over a hand
00:36 Seroster injektion, If a sign can make a kid think "Maybe I should stay the fuck away" even if they don't speak the language it has done its work =)
00:37 tonsofpcs best pen I ever owned was a continuous flow ballpoint of sorts given out by the Korean TV folks at NAB 2004.
00:37 egrsteve in theory adding a filler with same optic density then polishing would be better
00:38 masterofmonks injektion: off hand I would say it is a less commonly used placard.
00:38 injektion Something Canada uses?
00:38 Monkeh Seroster: I wonder, has anyone ever bothered to challenge the legality of selling a 'DVD' which intentionally breaks the DVD standard and as such is not compatible with a true DVD player?
00:38 masterofmonks injektion: Probably used here in the U.S.
00:38 tonsofpcs Monkeh: yes.  See the SONY rootkit crap
00:39 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I was thinking of Ripguard actually
00:39 Seroster injektion, It doesnt make much sense, wich means it comes from the lovely us of A
00:39 tonsofpcs Monkeh: you asked, I answered ;)
00:39 masterofmonks It is most likely used in a controlled industrial environment where people aren't looking for a U.N. number.
00:39 egrsteve I forgot about the sony rootkit, that should never be forgot
00:39 tonsofpcs egrsteve: I've recovered a disc that was broken into three pieces using the multi-read method once.
00:39 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Anyway, the Sony rootkit stuff was not DVDs, it was CDs.
00:40 masterofmonks I have seen it before, but not too often.
00:40 Seroster masterofmonks, do you know your way around high pressure devices? (200+PSI)
00:40 egrsteve 3 pieces, impressive, you glue it back together?
00:40 tonsofpcs nope
00:40 masterofmonks Which means that one way or another it has made it into the country.
00:40 injektion masterofmonks, I've seen it at work too on products that are shipped out of the US
00:40 tonsofpcs fit together then taped on top
00:40 masterofmonks Seroster: Depending.
00:40 egrsteve ah ok
00:40 Seroster Expanding the 4l tank of my compressor to a 7l tank
00:41 egrsteve probably les damaging than glue
00:41 tonsofpcs I also used it on one disc that was cracked most of the way through with a few spiderings off the center
00:41 egrsteve Is microwaving concidered a secure CD destruction methoe?
00:41 injektion http://public.sd43.bc.ca/middle/summit/div24/Lists/Announcements/Attachments/420/Safety%20Symbols.pdf
00:41 tonsofpcs mind you, these were DVD-Rs/+Rs, the former from a miniDVD+R camera (unfinalized too, that was a PITA) and the latter a normal DVD-R, so the goal was video recovery
00:42 Isopropyl|Kindle repairing ps3s ive found that the drives are really good at reading questionable discs
00:42 tonsofpcs egrsteve: pressed or burnt? what chemistry?
00:42 egrsteve either
00:42 DruidicRifleman 200+PSI is relitivly low... i have a 4500 PSI ait tank behind me
00:42 tonsofpcs Isopropyl|Kindle: they have the angling laser thing so they read different
00:42 injektion Well I found the answer lol
00:42 egrsteve don't they all have the foil layer
00:42 tonsofpcs egrsteve: pressed probably not.  Burnt, maybe.
00:42 egrsteve I know pressed discs have the data in the plastic
00:43 masterofmonks injektion: sort of.
00:43 tonsofpcs yes, but pressed discs only have the foil layer where they need it so the plastic is there
00:43 Seroster I remove the outlet from the 4l tank, put a quarter inch adapter there, a hose, to a threaded hole in my fire extinguisher. Also having a overpressure safety (redundant) and the output on the fire extinguisher body.   The extinguisher is rated for 190BAR, the compressor tank is tested to 30BAR and the O-P is 19BAR
00:43 Isopropyl|Kindle egrsteve. melt em. toss em on a campfire.
00:43 masterofmonks All of those symbols are regulated by the U.N.
00:43 masterofmonks Which means the theoretically you could see any of them anywhere as long as they were appropriate.
00:43 tonsofpcs Isopropyl|Kindle: I was thinking 'press a whole stack against a disc sander (the kind you put on a table saw) until its gone.
00:44 Seroster DruidicRifleman, I don't care about your airtanks whatsoever, and your cocky attitude doesnt mean that 100PSI can make your day very bad.
00:44 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: or if the truck driving down the highway has its hazard signs flapping loose
00:44 masterofmonks Seroster: You want to increase the volume of your air tank?
00:44 Seroster Yes
00:44 Monkeh Seroster: 19bar? The hell are you doing with this thing?
00:44 Seroster Doesnt have to discharge fast, but I want a stable 15BAR pressure for more than three seconds.
00:44 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: You see that, you call DOT. Though chances are he is already pulling the guy over.
00:44 Isopropyl|Kindle lol yea. or you could dissolve them in a chem bath tailored to that plastic type
00:44 Seroster monkeh 190BAR is a C02 fire extinguisher
00:45 Monkeh Seroster: I got that, I'm wondering what you need this pressure for.
00:45 Seroster It will not be operating at 190
00:45 Monkeh Seroster: Also note I said 19, not 190.
00:45 Seroster I will put a flow reducing valve on it, so I can have 12 BAR for longer times.
00:46 Seroster And what I need the pressure for? Blowing stuff. Pneumatics, air tools, messing with my cats?
00:46 Isopropyl|Kindle air painting?
00:46 Monkeh Seroster: Fair enough. It's just a fair amount of pressure, you can do most anything with 8-10 bar, it's flow rate you need.
00:46 Seroster Anything but air painting =)
00:47 Seroster monkehI don't need flow rate, I need volume =P
00:47 Monkeh Seroster: You need flowrate for air grinders. :P
00:47 Seroster Yes.
00:47 Monkeh You said air tools. :P
00:47 Seroster ...
00:47 Seroster The compressor got a crappy flow rate but high pressure
00:48 masterofmonks Then gix the flow rate.
00:48 Monkeh Yeah, that's why we use tanks you can climb inside.
00:48 masterofmonks fix*
00:48 Seroster If I can fill my tank(s) to 10 liters instead of 4 it will last longer.
00:48 masterofmonks You want to find what the pressure rating on your tank is.
00:48 Monkeh masterofmonks: He did.
00:48 Seroster Indeed, monkeh. I am expanding my tank. I got a plan for how to do it and I want someone with more experience to look at it so I don't blow my arms off.
00:49 Monkeh Seroster: The only point I would be worried about is the threading into the tank.
00:49 masterofmonks Seroster: Why not just buy a bigger tank from the scrap yard?
00:49 Monkeh I was also going to suggest that
00:49 Seroster masterofmonks, The factory fitted tank has an operating pressure of 16BAR and has ben tested at 40 (or 50, forgot) - the tank I am permanently installing is 190.
00:49 Monkeh Getting hold of some old tanks is the easiest way
00:49 Seroster masterofmonks, Because I have this tank.
00:50 masterofmonks Ah, I see what you are doing.
00:50 Ponko hmmm
00:51 Seroster Also, the nearest scrapyard is 100+km from here, (the only one with industrial stuff) - and I won't bike 150km on my pedal bike, strap a 200liter tank to my back, bike home and install the ginormous tank in my one room apartment.
00:51 Ponko England 1 Sweden 0 i'm very happy
00:51 Seroster Sweden lost?
00:51 egrsteve .weather
00:51 BotSteve Try .weather London, for example?
00:51 Monkeh Seroster: I feel sorry for your neighbours if you operate a compressor inside a small apartment. :)
00:51 masterofmonks Seroster: What kind of geek are you?
00:51 egrsteve .weather grr
00:51 Seroster masterofmonks, Insane?
00:51 BotSteve Cloudy, 53.6℉ (12℃), 29.74in (1004mb), Light breeze 6kt (↑) - KGRR 23:53Z
00:51 masterofmonks Seroster: Apparentyl not insane enough.
00:51 Ponko .weather LU3
00:51 BotSteve No ICAO code found, sorry
00:51 Seroster monkeh It's a scroll compressor. It sounds less than my fridge.
00:52 Ponko .tfwc LU3
00:52 Monkeh Seroster: How sweet.
00:52 BotSteve IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/tfw.py", line 32, in tfw)
00:52 Sgt_Lemming grrr, so sick of people saying "you can't have the fans in the computer blowing downwards, it fight's convection"
00:52 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: they are morons.
00:52 Seroster It sits on well over an inch (combined) of rubber =P
00:52 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: It fights and wins. Very easily.
00:52 Sgt_Lemming yes, yes they are
00:52 Isopropyl|Kindle . weather
00:52 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: DOT? They can't even afford to keep the permanent truck inspection stations open....
00:52 * tonsofpcs is in NY
00:52 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, Fighting convection is the entire damn point
00:52 Seroster masterofmonks, Not insane enough how?
00:53 Ponko and Seroster yes
00:53 Ponko yes they did
00:53 Seroster Awesome
00:53 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I have to wonder why you'd be doing that, though.
00:53 Seroster Too bad you didnt beat us more
00:53 producerbill joined #thegeekgroup
00:53 Ponko well England aren't very good
00:53 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: Have you ever traveled in simi before?
00:53 tonsofpcs simi?
00:53 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, some cases have the psu mounted at the bottom
00:54 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: These are decently designed cases.
00:54 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: semi
00:54 Sgt_Lemming yeah, but with the psu fan facing up though
00:54 Sgt_Lemming http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cooling-airflow-heatsink,3053-4.html
00:54 BotSteve Title: Power Supply: Mounting Location And Chassis Selection : How To: Properly Plan And Pick Parts For An Air-Cooled PC, Part 1
00:54 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: That's far from ideal unless it's in a seperate chamber.
00:54 Sgt_Lemming "Don’t install the PSU with its opening facing up in the chassis. You should go this route only with passively-cooled "silent" PSUs, so that the warm air can rise. Otherwise, you're fighting the forces of convection"
00:54 Cprossu need to find me a po-wer sup-ply, ain't got time to go buy one, loney days are gone, I'm a goin' hime... wait fail.
00:54 masterofmonks Seroster: in that you won't bike 100km and strap an air tank to your back.
00:54 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Still better than sitting it at the top, though.
00:54 Toastdude Hello producerbill
00:55 Isopropyl|Kindle what dot we talking about. mdot?
00:55 Cprossu I wouldn't say tomshardware is the best expert on it =P
00:55 tonsofpcs in a semi? no. in front of one to guide to delivery destinations in 3 different counties, traveling through at least 12 on state roads? sure.
00:55 masterofmonks Isopropyl|Kindle: Federal Department of Transportation.
00:55 tonsofpcs (and technically through two states)
00:56 Cprossu I'd say with today's processors and most of the GPU's we're still in a better off world than years ago.
00:56 Sgt_Lemming oh hells yes
00:56 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: I assure you that there are DOT officers aplenty.
00:56 Cprossu though the best cooling all depends on the ambient environment.
00:56 tonsofpcs (actually, I'm not so sure that westbound 17 goes through PA.... eastbound definitely does)
00:56 Monkeh Cprossu: I'd say tomshardware says nothing which doesn't get them money.
00:57 Cprossu exactly.
00:57 * Monkeh likes small but intelligent sites
00:57 Cprossu Remember BOOT magazine?
00:57 * Sgt_Lemming nods
00:57 Cprossu they were awesome.
00:57 tonsofpcs in other news, I got a genset delivery this morning :D
00:58 Cprossu you'd sometimes see an ad for a product on the flip page for a thing which they totally destroyed.
00:58 Cprossu (review wise)
00:58 wannabe1987 anyone good with excel?
00:58 Cprossu same was true when the became maximumpc.
00:58 tonsofpcs i'd bet about 50% or more of the room right now
00:58 Cprossu then sometime in the P4 era
00:58 Cprossu they went to shit
00:58 Cprossu completely to shit
00:58 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: ^
00:59 wannabe1987 i has question!
00:59 wannabe1987 i need answer
00:59 * Cprossu has a candle light vigil for "Windows tips for Morons"
00:59 wannabe1987 how to add a colum of numbers into a cell
00:59 tonsofpcs a column into a cell? hrm?
00:59 wannabe1987 b2 through b18
00:59 tonsofpcs oh, =SUM(B2:B18)
00:59 Isopropyl|Kindle man i wish i could run straight dos on my dell laptop. stupid soundcard drivers...
00:59 Cprossu =sum(A1:A10)
00:59 Cprossu etc
00:59 wannabe1987 thanks!
01:00 Cprossu yeah
01:00 wannabe1987 :D
01:00 Isopropyl|Kindle yay excel
01:00 Cprossu I wonder. Was 'windows tips for morons' as good as I remembered it was?
01:01 wannabe1987 (its actually open office spreadsheet) but same thing
01:01 Isopropyl|Kindle yeah
01:01 Isopropyl|Kindle stomach viruses suck...
01:02 Isopropyl|Kindle whackin out my blood pressure
01:03 Sgt_Lemming Isopropyl|Kindle, I've had heart problems for most of the last three months
01:03 Sgt_Lemming Atrial Fibrilation and Tachycardia
01:04 Isopropyl|Kindle howd you manage that
01:04 * wannabe1987 might go back to school for EMT
01:04 Sgt_Lemming no freaking idea Isopropyl|Kindle
01:04 Isopropyl|Kindle i blame the weather
01:04 Sgt_Lemming I'd been losing weight etc and then started having heart problems one while at work
01:04 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: do you eat licorice?
01:05 Sgt_Lemming not regularly
01:05 Isopropyl|Kindle hm.
01:07 Isopropyl|Kindle so then whatd your doc say about ut
01:07 Sgt_Lemming they're just as confused as I am about it :-P
01:07 Isopropyl|Kindle ah doctors...
01:08 Monkeh Medical 'science'
01:08 Cprossu hrmmmmm
01:09 Isopropyl|Kindle could it be because your heart is just use to dealing with the extra weight. i mean i have no idea how much you lost
01:09 * Cprossu decides how much power supply he'll need for this experiment
01:09 Seroster NST
01:09 Sgt_Lemming Isopropyl|Kindle, I have none of the usual triggers for heart conditions, no family history of it, don't smoke, don't drink
01:09 Cprossu anyone here good with video4linux?
01:09 Isopropyl|Kindle thats the oddest thing
01:09 Sgt_Lemming they said the weight is not likely to be part of the issue as I wasn't all that far overweight
01:10 Monkeh Cprossu: Depends how 'good' you need someone to be. ;)
01:10 Isopropyl|Kindle could it be neurological
01:10 Cprossu good enough to get my mirovideo DC30 card working with it
01:10 Monkeh Cprossu: Is it supported?
01:10 Cprossu and to tell me which distro I should be screwing with
01:10 Cprossu I think so.
01:10 Monkeh Cprossu: Distro? I'm sure you know my answer.
01:11 Isopropyl|Kindle 60 bajillion watts oughta do it
01:11 Monkeh Isopropyl|Kindle: I was going to say over nine thousand jiggawatts.
01:11 Cprossu I don't feel like compiling gentoo and making it work
01:11 Cprossu for a testbed system
01:11 Monkeh Cprossu: But it's so easy!
01:11 Isopropyl|Kindle lol
01:12 Cprossu it's a quick & dirty that I need
01:12 Cprossu not a work for the next 15 hours compiling the wrong things and bypassing dependancy blocks
01:12 Isopropyl|Kindle lolbuntu?
01:13 Cprossu lolbuntu would consist of me downloading and installing all the stuff that I should have installed base but don't
01:13 Cprossu hence my predicament
01:13 Isopropyl|Kindle a slight detour of time. meh
01:13 Ponko masterofmonks can i have a word
01:13 wannabe1987 .in 15hours remind admissionhook.com scholarship and create-a-greeting card
01:13 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind on 16 Nov 2011 at 16:13Z
01:13 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
01:13 BotSteve No problem, wannabe1987
01:13 Monkeh Cprossu: Oh, please, Gentoo is not like that.
01:13 wannabe1987 .pie BotSteve
01:13 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  ** face-to-pie** Excuse me but now i need to go clean my face. But that was some damn good pie :P
01:13 masterofmonks Ponko: Yes.
01:14 Cprossu Monkeh: when you have the range of hardware I do yes it is
01:14 Isopropyl|Kindle what support do you need
01:14 Monkeh Cprossu: A bog standard amd64 system? Oh no it isn't.
01:14 Monkeh Cprossu: I run Gentoo on a range of x86 and x86_64 machines, ppc, ppc64, ia64, sparc..
01:14 Cprossu ATI chipset, marvell ethernet, and a weird ass capture card.
01:14 * dbshortwave grumbles
01:15 Sgt_Lemming .pie BotSteve
01:15 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  ** face-to-pie** Excuse me but now i need to go clean my face. But that was some damn good pie :P
01:15 Cprossu A8R32-MVP Deluxe mobo
01:15 Monkeh Cprossu: No problem, no more problem than on any other OS, just as much trouble as they are on any platform because video capture stuff is crap.
01:16 Cprossu oddly enough I'd have better luck getting a DC30 card working in linux proper than in XP.
01:16 Isopropyl|Kindle id say just suck it through buntu
01:16 Cprossu it's the closest thing I've got to a pro cap card though
01:16 Monkeh Cprossu: Anything involving video on Windows is a clusterfuck
01:17 Cprossu now to decide on my best bet for graphics.
01:17 Isopropyl|Kindle like snappy on 98
01:17 Monkeh Cprossu: It may or may not work depending on exactly what chip it is.
01:17 Cprossu I have enough crap here we could make _something_ work.
01:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Good thing about v4l2, you at least have a unified framework and tools.
01:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Windows lacks such simple things.
01:19 Isopropyl|Kindle because its coded by monkeys and short people
01:20 Seroster Jesus this fire extinguisher emptys in a hurry
01:20 Seroster masterofmonks, should I weld the original neck shut and make my three holes in the side of the cylinder?
01:20 Isopropyl|Kindle it does have a job to do
01:21 masterofmonks Seroster: Darwin award what?
01:21 Seroster How much will I impair the structural integrity from welding two bolts to it?
01:21 Seroster Hrm?
01:21 Ponko yeah seroster it would do think about the pressure inside it lol
01:22 Isopropyl|Kindle lol chances. guite a gamble
01:22 Seroster ...Preferrably welding it while EMPTY
01:22 Isopropyl|Kindle quite
01:22 Seroster The neck is a speciality thread that is only used in fire extinguishers
01:23 Cprossu today's "I grabbed it out of a bin of known working parts above my head" is a PCI Matrox Millenium, a PCI Radeon 9200, and a PCIE Quadro NVS 285  @ Monkeh
01:23 Monkeh Cprossu: The Radeon is a POS but they do tend to work.
01:23 Isopropyl|Kindle youd be better off welding an adapter to the existing hardware
01:23 Cprossu it doesn't have to do anything
01:24 Cprossu except not be a burden to the rest of the system
01:24 Monkeh Seroster: Are you confident of your welding skills for a pressure vessel?
01:24 Isopropyl|Kindle that point would fail first on would hope
01:24 Seroster monkeh The bolts will be tacks only
01:24 Monkeh Seroster: .. and the neck?
01:24 Seroster I am thinking about heat treatment alchemy
01:24 Isopropyl|Kindle why not collar the extinguisher
01:24 Seroster The neck is threaded, I'll just make a nice big puddle in there.
01:25 Seroster Because of the speciality weld?
01:25 Seroster Erm, thread*
01:26 Isopropyl|Kindle just make sure you do your target pressure test from a distance
01:27 Seroster Just filling the neck with epoxy would work fine
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01:31 Cprossu so Monkeh, the r200 oss driver includes 3d? any kernel cutoffs for it?
01:32 Monkeh Cprossu: Not that familiar with it, I don't buy ATI cards.
01:32 Monkeh Cprossu: I know they work without having to use the laughable proprietary drivers. That's about it.
01:32 Cprossu I know with the quadro I'm stuck using the proprietary nv drivers probably.
01:33 Cprossu the matrox could potentially handle video overlay if I needed it, but by the same token it's ancient
01:34 Monkeh Cprossu: 285? You can use nouveau for that as long as you don't care about functional power mangement.
01:34 wannabe1987 Ponko our gov't sucks....
01:34 Monkeh Or fully functional 3D
01:34 Ponko i know
01:35 wannabe1987 ok
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01:37 wannabe1987 i gotta get going....might get online at home, probably will
01:37 wannabe1987 bye Toastdude!
01:37 wannabe1987 bye exor674
01:38 * exor674 hugs wannabe1987
01:43 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WJVHtF8GwI&feature=related DAMN LOL
01:43 BotSteve Title: This happens when you don't properly vent a storage tank - YouTube
01:46 Sgt_Lemming been thinking of doing the same thing with a stainless steel drink bottle I have here
01:47 Sgt_Lemming you put a few cm of water in the bottom, bring it to the boil and then put the cap back on and leave it to cool
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01:52 Ponko hello kate
01:54 Sgt_Lemming lo Katemonster
01:54 Katemonster hi lemmon
01:54 Sgt_Lemming ...
02:05 DruidicRifleman Any one know how much replacement TGG member cards are
02:30 yNos Seroster: is it a bleve?
02:30 yNos or crush itself?
02:30 Seroster yNos, vacuum
02:30 Sgt_Lemming yNos, vacuum implosion
02:31 yNos no video on the phone here
02:31 yNos cool
02:31 Sgt_Lemming BLEVE's are fun mmmmk :-P
02:31 Sgt_Lemming small ones anyway
02:31 yNos yarp
02:32 Sgt_Lemming spelink fael
02:32 yNos for those wondering, it is pronounced blev eee
02:32 yNos maybe he was cored my a cenetor and wanted to make it look cool?
02:32 yNos speelinkfail2.0
02:32 yNos or .2?
02:32 yNos since its not prod
02:33 Sgt_Lemming lol
02:33 yNos or can i use the "its a hitty blackberry keyboard" cop-out?
02:33 tonsofpcs huh?
02:34 Sgt_Lemming yNos, I hate crackberries
02:34 Sgt_Lemming so horrid to use
02:34 tonsofpcs depends on the model
02:34 Sgt_Lemming every single one I have used has a crappy tiny keyboard and ancient unreliable software
02:35 Sgt_Lemming I've also supported them in an enterprise environment and you would not believe how many broken ones we had
02:35 tonsofpcs Bold 9000 has a nice keyboard
02:35 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: more than 1/3?
02:35 Sgt_Lemming more like 1/2
02:35 Sgt_Lemming shit just kept on failing on them
02:36 Sgt_Lemming http://st.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/mwc09-htc/pro2/gsmarena_003.jpg <--- best phone keyboard I've ever used
02:37 tonsofpcs The 9000 has the half-beveled keys but at the size of the curve keys
02:37 egrsteve talking phones?
02:37 Sgt_Lemming yeah
02:37 tonsofpcs no, texting phones :-p
02:38 egrsteve I need to replace mine, my vx5200 has a deadish screen now
02:38 tonsofpcs talking phones have 10 keys (maybe 14) or a rotary encoder (or maybe just a hook)
02:38 egrsteve you have to crank mine to get an operator
02:38 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, it's not a rotary encoder, it's a rotary switch with auto return to centre :-P
02:38 egrsteve what are theses buttons
02:39 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: it 'dials' on the return
02:39 egrsteve that hits each contact on the way by
02:39 Sgt_Lemming well aware of that tonsofpcs
02:40 Sgt_Lemming but a rotary encoder generally gives you a number of pulses per rotation, regardless of direction and often gives you direction of rotation as well
02:40 tonsofpcs it's not a rotary switch, it is indeed a rotary encoder, it clicks once for each of a certain radial distance travelled.
02:40 tonsofpcs so  it's a rotary encoder with a clutch? :)
02:40 Sgt_Lemming I would disagree on it being a rotary encoder, but that's semantics
02:41 egrsteve maybe I'll just get this: http://www.sparkfun.com/products/286
02:41 BotSteve Title: Portable Rotary Phone - Black - SparkFun Electronics
02:42 egrsteve that should be a good repacement cell phone
02:42 Sgt_Lemming it would be amsuing
02:42 tonsofpcs I have the bluetooth handset from thinkgeeg
02:42 tonsofpcs *thinkgeek
02:42 Sgt_Lemming texting would be a problem
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02:42 Sgt_Lemming lo wannabe1987
02:43 wannabe1987 awwww whered toast go?
02:43 wannabe1987 hi Sgt_Lemming
02:43 Ponko he's now TOASTY in someones belly
02:43 wannabe1987 hows you?
02:43 Ponko but truly idk
02:43 wannabe1987 lol
02:44 masterofmonks Ok, I need a random volunteer.
02:44 wannabe1987 hi Ponko
02:44 egrsteve no it
02:44 Ponko hey kelly
02:44 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: you can dial the base number then the letter position?
02:44 egrsteve *not it
02:44 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: roll a die?
02:44 wannabe1987 i will!
02:44 Ponko .coin
02:44 BotSteve Heads!
02:44 masterofmonks Good, now join #tgg:sports
02:44 wannabe1987 ok....
02:45 egrsteve on a more serious note what phones to people like here
02:45 egrsteve *do
02:45 Sgt_Lemming Motorola Droid 3 is what I want
02:45 Monkeh egrsteve: Of the mobile variety? I rather like my Galaxy S II.
02:46 egrsteve yes, mobile
02:47 egrsteve my old flip phone is dieing and needs replacing :(
02:48 egrsteve it's been a good 7ish years
02:48 masterofmonks Got your money out of that one.
02:49 egrsteve I know, I don't want to part with it beacuase it gets such good reception
02:49 egrsteve I will have signal when no one else does
02:49 egrsteve but with a black screen it needs to be replaced
02:50 egrsteve *blank screen (it's blue not black)
02:50 masterofmonks egrsteve: I have been happy with Virgin mobile and my Optiums V
02:50 masterofmonks Optimus*
02:51 masterofmonks I however live in the middle of nowhere essentially.
02:51 masterofmonks And I generally have good signal.
02:52 egrsteve I have made calls via wisconson towers in an island in the middle of lake michigan with mine
02:52 |censored| its all fun and games till someone gets there spine seporated
02:52 egrsteve *on anisland
02:52 egrsteve * on an island
02:52 masterofmonks .yt castellerizon
02:52 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fED-oUgb6x0
02:53 masterofmonks bah
02:53 wannabe1987 i have tracfone, i do not recommmend it
02:53 egrsteve good to know :)
02:53 |censored| stay away from streighttalk too
02:53 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvqCL09h3E8
02:53 BotSteve Title: david gilmour-castellorizon & on an island. - YouTube
02:54 |censored| get a verizon blackberry clone 50 bucks a month
02:54 egrsteve currently I have verizon
02:54 |censored| yeah stay with verizon
02:54 egrsteve there coverage is good here
02:54 tonsofpcs if you want to stay on VZW, good luck getting adecent phone
02:54 tonsofpcs their
02:54 egrsteve i know
02:54 wannabe1987 hi dbshortwave
02:55 |censored| hi wannabe1987
02:55 egrsteve I am tempted to get an iphone 4 (not 4s)
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02:56 egrsteve but if I go smartphone I have to figure out dataplan rates
02:56 wannabe1987 ewwww data
02:56 wannabe1987 having worked at AT&T when the FIRST iphone came out....data sucks
02:56 egrsteve I would like an unlimited but thats $$$
02:57 wannabe1987 "my kids don't know how to access the internet on their phone, erase charges" sorry sir, cannot do that, they *DO* know how to do stuff
02:57 egrsteve it doesn't help at&ts network was not ready for it
02:57 wannabe1987 yeah
02:57 wannabe1987 more like parents underestimated their kids
02:57 egrsteve and stil isn't
02:58 egrsteve so they want t-mobiles infistructure so they don't have to put more into there own
02:59 egrsteve that is creepy: http://all-that-is-interesting.com/meet-doroles-the-bald-south-american-bear
02:59 BotSteve Title: Meet Doroles, The Bald South American Bear | All That Is Interesting
02:59 tonsofpcs I have true unlimited :D
02:59 egrsteve true unlimited is nice
02:59 wannabe1987 get a phone and put google voice on it!
02:59 tonsofpcs w/ tether
02:59 wannabe1987 poor bear
03:00 * Katemonster is back
03:00 wannabe1987 fuzzy wuzzy was a bear, fuzzy wuzzy had no hair!
03:00 tonsofpcs hey, he was follically challanged...
03:01 Seroster Gnight folks
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03:01 Seroster savorak, You spelled dvorak wrong
03:02 Cprossu fuzzy wazzy had a sticky zz key.
03:02 wannabe1987 nrn
03:02 wannabe1987 lol
03:02 wannabe1987 hi Katemonster
03:02 Katemonster hi
03:02 Cprossu nrn?
03:02 Cprossu how did you end up with nrn?
03:02 wannabe1987 dvorak keyboard
03:02 Seroster Goobye folks, including Katemonster Cprossu wannabe1987 BatSteve-Away Ponko and SparkyProjects
03:03 wannabe1987 night Seroster
03:03 SparkyProjects Night :)
03:03 Cprossu take it easy
03:03 Ponko cya
03:03 Katemonster bye seroster
03:03 Katemonster (good riddance)
03:03 Seroster SparkyProjects, I am going to do naughty stuff to high pressure vessels later. Cya tomorrow
03:03 Cprossu Neil Innis, piano
03:03 Seroster Thats not very nice kate
03:03 Katemonster nope
03:03 Cprossu .yt intro and the outro bonzo
03:03 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Bxv_HLwT7U
03:03 SparkyProjects :P
03:03 Seroster But I love you anyway
03:03 Katemonster daw
03:03 Cprossu adolf hitler of vibes
03:03 Cprossu *of=on
03:03 Seroster .w GODWINS LAW
03:04 BotSteve "Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies)[1]|[2]| is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2]| that has become an Internet adage." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
03:04 Seroster You just had to go there Cprossu
03:04 tonsofpcs .ud godwins law
03:04 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Godwin's%20Law
03:04 Cprossu rofl
03:05 wannabe1987 .g skyrim
03:05 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.elderscrolls.com/skyrim
03:05 wannabe1987 MY FRIEND HAS NOT HEARD OF SKYRIM OMG
03:05 tonsofpcs wtf is skyrim btw?
03:05 wannabe1987 video game
03:05 wannabe1987 ....
03:05 tonsofpcs right, got that much...
03:06 Ponko kelly it's not the end of the world if you haven't heard of it
03:06 wannabe1987 no, but for a video gamer....
03:06 Ponko ah well that's different he can't be a true one but if he's not hardcore then that's understandable
03:07 * Cprossu wonders if anyone actually clicked that yt link, or if that yt link was even the right one
03:07 Cprossu *clicks*
03:07 Cprossu sweet it was the right one
03:07 SparkyProjects I thought skyrim was the grand canyon observation deck at first :P
03:07 SparkyProjects Realised that was skywalk
03:08 Cprossu .yt bonzo urban spaceman
03:08 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbLDI5lNdRQ
03:12 wannabe1987 Three notes walk into a bar – a G, an E flat, and a C. The bartender looks up and says “We don’t serve minors.” So the E flat leaves and the other two have a fifth between them
03:12 |censored| x.x
03:14 wannabe1987 what?
03:14 wannabe1987 i found it online :D
03:16 |censored| hey wannabe1987: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311936_289470524420058_273879369312507_921171_1876987413_n.jpg
03:16 wannabe1987 seen it.
03:16 wannabe1987 want it
03:16 wannabe1987 :D
03:16 |censored| lol
03:16 wannabe1987 still like twilight
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03:16 wannabe1987 :P
03:17 |censored| look at my page and take it
03:17 |censored| lol
03:17 NeWtoz I get it
03:17 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: is that joke from NBC per chance?
03:17 NeWtoz the joke
03:17 wannabe1987 i don't know...i got it from geeksaresexy.com
03:17 tonsofpcs (play it and you'll understand my questioning)
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03:17 wannabe1987 yeah, i know....
03:17 wannabe1987 nBc
03:18 wannabe1987 TOAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:18 wannabe1987 omg you're here
03:18 tonsofpcs ?
03:18 Toastdude WANNABE!!!!!!!!!
03:18 Toastdude I'm sorry, I kinda fell asleep earlier.... :(
03:18 tonsofpcs nBc?
03:18 wannabe1987 lol
03:18 wannabe1987 its ok
03:19 b|o|b bitter old basterd
03:19 b|o|b bob for short
03:19 wannabe1987 yeah, b being higher up its capitalized.  don't worry about me, i only took AP music theory class and have my own short hand for writing sounds out
03:20 wannabe1987 big old bastard?
03:20 b|o|b no im bitter
03:20 wannabe1987 why
03:20 tonsofpcs the notes are actually G(an octave down, iirc),E,C
03:20 b|o|b not to offend others cause i dont want a fight cause i cant stand them either. but i hate mormons
03:20 tonsofpcs (General Electric Corporation)
03:20 wannabe1987 lol
03:21 b|o|b if you seen the rant i wanted to send i would have started a riot in this channel
03:21 Toastdude Hello Basterd b|o|
03:21 wannabe1987 G below middle C, E above middle C and middle C.
03:21 Toastdude :P
03:21 Katemonster trololo
03:21 Katemonster that's what the nsfw channel is for.
03:21 Katemonster or... wait
03:21 Toastdude Katemonster: Trollzillalololol!!!
03:21 b|o|b lmao
03:21 Katemonster don't we have a "controversial" channel too?
03:21 wannabe1987 actually kate it swhat tgg:controversial is for
03:21 wannabe1987 yeah
03:21 Katemonster there you go.
03:22 b|o|b yeah for metho
03:22 b|o|b i tend to say shit and it will piss everyone off ... trust me
03:22 Toastdude Oh....
03:23 dbshortwave hi tost
03:25 * Katemonster yawns
03:27 dbshortwave fuckit
03:27 * dbshortwave points
03:27 dbshortwave BED TIME
03:27 dbshortwave later
03:28 wannabe1987 night
03:29 Katemonster :(
03:30 Toastdude Also.... KATE!!
03:30 Katemonster TOAST!
03:30 Katemonster how you
03:31 Toastdude Good! I saw a really close meteor tonight (About a mile aay from us)
03:31 Toastdude :D
03:31 Toastdude How about you?
03:31 Katemonster tired.  wishing my jessmonster wasn't sick
03:32 Katemonster thinking of going straight to bed and dealing with makeup CAD work in the morning
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03:42 producerbill what is up tonight
03:43 Katemonster interest rates
03:43 producerbill lol
03:44 Toastdude Hi producerbill
03:44 Toast-Away Brb
03:51 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 11-15-11 Mail, Microdonations, and Decompression http://youtu.be/ObNg5oXcjRU
03:53 NeWtoz http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6217/6347760172_d73ab8dc88_o.jpg
03:55 Katemonster niiiiiiiiice
03:55 * Katemonster has to do that some time
03:58 producerbill lol I want to do that at work
04:07 wannabe1987 lol
04:09 DruidicRifleman whats up
04:11 wannabe1987 lots of shit.  LOTS OF SHIT
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04:11 Toastdude Hi Lee
04:12 wannabe1987 lee!
04:13 lwq1996 WANNNABE
04:13 * lwq1996 GLOMPS
04:13 Ponko ok would anyone on here go on tgg:sports voluntarily meaning joining because you're interested in sports, if so join it, atm it's still active and don't do this because i said to lol, but if you are interested in sports of any kind head on over it's just a place to discuss sports whatever your sport is c'mon over btw any sports which use guns aren't technically sports per se but they will be mentioned in there
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04:14 Ponko they CAN be*
04:14 wannabe1987 lol
04:15 Ponko guns no but gun sports yes
04:17 Ponko only need 5 people really but anyone as i said can join
04:17 Katemonster lol
04:17 Ponko it's NOT an invite channel just join it at your free will
04:18 wannabe1987 Ponko is spamming me.............
04:18 Ponko am i?
04:18 wannabe1987 yes.  about your tgg:sports
04:18 Ponko i want to get it out there
04:19 wannabe1987 then mention it various times of the day
04:19 Ponko i know this
04:19 wannabe1987 ok
04:20 Ponko tbh it's just futile keeping it active
04:20 wannabe1987 lol
04:20 Katemonster buh
04:20 wannabe1987 well, there'll be moments when its active and moments when its not
04:20 Katemonster no jess and no steve tonight
04:20 wannabe1987 just deal?
04:20 wannabe1987 poor kate
04:21 Katemonster think i'm just going to go to bed
04:21 * Katemonster is too tired
04:21 wannabe1987 me too
04:21 Katemonster school sucks
04:21 wannabe1987 night kate
04:21 Ponko lol night
04:21 wannabe1987 mhm
04:21 Katemonster night ponko.  good luck with your channel
04:21 Katemonster night kelly
04:21 DruidicRifleman what are people up to tonight
04:21 Ponko yeah i'll need it
04:21 Katemonster ......
04:21 BatSteve sup doods
04:21 * Ponko still thinks it's futile
04:21 wannabe1987 LOL
04:21 Katemonster .........you ass.
04:22 wannabe1987 kate was just bout to leave cuz youi weren't here
04:22 wannabe1987 hi bats
04:22 BatSteve :D
04:22 BatSteve hi kate!
04:22 BatSteve Sorry!
04:22 wannabe1987 i'm still getting ready for b ed...i'm tired, and its 11:30ish
04:22 Katemonster hi steve
04:23 Katemonster srsly though
04:23 Katemonster tired monster is tired
04:24 Katemonster tired monster wants mattracks instead
04:24 BatSteve tiredmonster ought to become snoozemonster instead
04:24 Katemonster btw
04:24 Katemonster Gama Goat + Mattracks = geatest.  ATV.  /ever./
04:25 Katemonster and with that, i go a-snoozin'.  later
04:26 BatSteve Seeya!
04:26 Toastdude Bats!
04:26 wannabe1987 how BatSteve
04:26 BatSteve where BatSteve
04:26 wannabe1987 hows*
04:27 wannabe1987 sorry, tired, long stressful bad day
04:27 BatSteve Happy!
04:27 BatSteve aww
04:27 wannabe1987 yay someones happy
04:27 wannabe1987 y r u happy
04:27 BatSteve wannabe1987: I am eating this:  str(decimal.Decimal(str(v)).quantize(decimal.Decimal('.01'), rounding="ROUND_DOWN") )
04:27 BatSteve oops
04:27 BatSteve hahaha
04:27 BatSteve wannabe1987: I am eating this:  http://simplyrecipes.com/recipes/irish_beef_stew/
04:27 Toastdude Lol
04:27 BotSteve Title: Irish Beef Stew Recipe | Simply Recipes
04:27 wannabe1987 altho, i'm listening to LOTR soundtracks...
04:27 NeWtoz lol, weird eating habits
04:27 wannabe1987 odd thing to eat, ROUND_DOWN
04:28 wannabe1987 :P
04:28 Ponko i like beef spew
04:28 NeWtoz probably not very filling
04:28 wannabe1987 looks yummy BatSteve
04:28 Ponko lol that's what my dad knew it as because at school when it was on the menu someone changed the letters around
04:28 wannabe1987 i'll add it to my list....
04:28 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". |  Join #tgg:sports and rock with the cool kids!
04:29 BatSteve wannabe1987: what I do is make it with condensed alphabet soup rather than beef stock
04:29 BatSteve it's a little cheaper and besides you get alphabet letters in your stew
04:29 wannabe1987 there, Ponko, happy?  tis in the topic
04:29 wannabe1987 really
04:29 BatSteve and really, who can turn that down?
04:29 wannabe1987 hmmmm
04:29 wannabe1987 i'd make it now, but lack of proper stove makes using hot plates ANNOYING
04:29 NeWtoz it is kinda lonely in sports
04:30 wannabe1987 why do you think i left?
04:30 Ponko yeah i asked if he'd do that lol
04:31 BatSteve wannabe1987: I made it in a slow cooker
04:31 wannabe1987 oooo
04:31 wannabe1987 there is one of them here
04:31 BatSteve I wonder if a hot plate would work the same way?
04:31 BatSteve oh
04:31 BatSteve or that!
04:31 BatSteve yeah, just do it in a slow cooker
04:31 BatSteve start it about 11 am, eat it about 8 pm
04:32 wannabe1987 no, hot plate is like a stove top but there only two....
04:32 wannabe1987 its highly annoying when you need three burners!
04:32 Toastdude Night all
04:34 wannabe1987 my friend posted a status about how she can't see texts....so i sent her a text
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04:36 Guardianzozo hola!
04:37 eadthem this is still my favorit video
04:37 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/user/Physicsduck#p/search/1/8cPirekmiLI
04:37 BotSteve Title: Physicsduck's Channel - YouTube
04:38 BatSteve howdy Guardianzozo!
04:38 Guardianzozo hows it going steve?
04:40 egrsteve ok
04:40 Ponko NeWtoz you brought that on yourself
04:42 wannabe1987 NIGH!
04:42 wannabe1987 NIGHT*
04:42 wannabe1987 even
04:43 Guardianzozo night?
04:43 BatSteve night night?
04:43 BatSteve it goes good zozo, how's yous?
04:44 wannabe1987 i'm going to bed
04:44 Guardianzozo pretty good, just built a new MC server
04:44 BatSteve Nice!
04:44 BatSteve .minecraft
04:44 BotSteve The 'official' TGG minecraft server address is: gamerxreviews.net (online)
04:45 BatSteve Man, remember when the only reason that people would log into the channel was to check the minecraft address, Guardianzozo?
04:45 Guardianzozo yup that one is still going on
04:45 BatSteve Those were the days
04:45 Guardianzozo i miss that a bit actually
04:45 Guardianzozo you should stop on some time and ill give you a tour
04:45 Ponko was this in the early days of the channel BatSteve
04:46 Guardianzozo we got some really cool stuff made
04:46 Ponko mom gave me a nostalgia trip
04:46 Monkeh|Lap Has anyone built a replica of the lab on Minecraft?
04:46 BatSteve oh yeah, right in the very beginning
04:46 Guardianzozo someone was talking about making one but nothing yet
04:46 BatSteve back when there were like 7 people in the channel
04:46 BatSteve Me, Thermo, Zozo, KarmicThreat...umm...
04:46 Guardianzozo monks
04:47 BatSteve Monks
04:47 BatSteve Nobody knows how he got there
04:47 BatSteve He just spontaneously appeared one day.
04:47 Guardianzozo speedrunner, druid, crohakon, pegasus
04:47 BatSteve pegasus, definitely
04:47 BatSteve tesla4d!
04:47 Guardianzozo yup
04:47 BatSteve pegasus and tesla4d have the honor of being the first two people to get in a flamewar in this channel
04:48 Guardianzozo that was funny
04:48 egrsteve what was it over?
04:48 Sgt_Lemming heh
04:48 egrsteve mac b PC
04:48 egrsteve edison V tesla?
04:48 Guardianzozo heya lem
04:48 Sgt_Lemming reading a web comic about driving across the US/Canadian border
04:48 Monkeh|Lap Ah, a classic
04:49 Monkeh|Lap Not as geek as vi vs emacs though
04:49 Sgt_Lemming it's such a strange concept to me to drive across a border :-P
04:49 Guardianzozo lol
04:49 Sgt_Lemming it's at least a 3 hour flight for me to get to another country
04:49 egrsteve vi vs emacs is a classic
04:49 Sgt_Lemming heck it's a 12 - 14 hour drive to cross a state line!
04:49 BatSteve it was about textbooks in schools, if I remember
04:50 egrsteve oh, sounds boring ;)
04:50 BatSteve Tell that to them
04:50 Guardianzozo yea steve stop by sometime i got some designs on there that you would laugh at when ya saw them turn on
04:51 egrsteve next time there both on we shoudl try to restart it, then it would also be the longest flame war here
04:51 Guardianzozo i still even have the old geek group map where i hollowed out that mountian for ya lol
04:52 tesla4d Oh, yeah. I was trying to explain why creationist textbooks in Texas are a problem for the whole country.
04:52 Ponko zozo come to the sports channel
04:53 * Ponko bets zozo doesn't like sports
04:53 BatSteve oh yeah!
04:53 Guardianzozo hockey and paintball only
04:53 BatSteve that's what it was
04:54 Ponko OH DUDE
04:54 Ponko Zozo you in Detroit?
04:54 Guardianzozo north carolina
04:54 Guardianzozo why?
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04:55 BatSteve Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". |  BatSteve will give ops in this channel to the first 10 people to join #tgg:sports
04:55 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". |  BatSteve will give ops in this channel to the first 10 people to join #tgg:sports
04:55 BatSteve there
04:55 BotSteve Title: IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-16
04:56 tonsofpcs hmm
05:06 tesla4d But... I want ops...
05:06 * tesla4d pokes BatSteve
05:07 egrsteve night all
05:07 Guardianzozo night
05:07 * BatSteve pokes tesla4d
05:07 BatSteve yes but I am a liar
05:08 BatSteve did you not read the topic in the other room?
05:08 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". |  BatSteve was lying about the ops, but you should still join #tgg:sports
05:09 tesla4d No, I didn't. I didn't join the other room. :P
05:09 BatSteve ah
05:09 tesla4d I saw through your deception!
05:09 BatSteve The topic is "BatSteve was lying"
05:09 BatSteve (:
05:10 tesla4d Oh, yes. I can see that in my channel list.
05:11 tesla4d I also see a "controversial" channel.
05:11 tesla4d Ooooh.
05:12 lwq1996 im gonna go....
05:12 lwq1996 bye
05:12 Guardianzozo later
05:12 tesla4d Now can I have ops? :P
05:15 BatSteve .yt nope.avi
05:15 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14
05:27 Guardianzozo im heading out, night
05:32 BatSteve okay...this is really weird
05:32 BatSteve http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/11/china-gigantic/
05:32 BotSteve Title: Why Is China Building These Gigantic Structures In the Middle of the Desert? | Danger Room | Wired.com
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06:10 BatSteve time to go
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06:11 Sgt_Lemming hmmm, just had an interesting idea
06:12 Sgt_Lemming Watercooled pc, but pull a vacuum on the system so that the water boils at say 50°c
06:12 Sgt_Lemming put the radiator above the cpu on a slight angle, with the hot pipe going from the cpu straight into the highest end
06:12 Sgt_Lemming should condense and run back down to the cooler end, instant pumpless watercooling :-D
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06:20 killaway^ZZzz sgt : you mean heatpipe ? :)
06:20 Sgt_Lemming similar concept killaway^ZZzz
06:20 Sgt_Lemming but this would be using seperate pipes for hot and cold side
06:20 killaway^ZZzz ah
06:23 Sgt_Lemming the boiling liquid leads to it's own problems though
06:23 Sgt_Lemming erosion of the cooling surface mostly
06:31 killaway^ZZzz even when the waters under 100 c ?
06:33 Sgt_Lemming killakee, it's not to do with the temp of the water
06:34 Sgt_Lemming but the fact that water boiling rapidly basically detonates
06:34 Sgt_Lemming as the bubble expands it causes a local increase in pressure that boils the water around it faster
06:35 killakee cavitation yes
06:35 Sgt_Lemming it's a logarythmic curve until either the temperature drops, or the pressure is released somehow, normally breaking the surface of the water
06:35 Sgt_Lemming ever seen what cavitation does to a badly designed prop on a boat?
06:36 Sgt_Lemming or the impeller on a pump
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06:37 savorak hey
06:37 Sgt_Lemming lo
06:37 savorak who's seen monty python?
06:37 killakee heh yeah.. my father used to work on powerstations so i have seen what cavitation does to a barndoor sized propeller ;)
06:37 Sgt_Lemming http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/Cavitation_Propeller_Damage.JPG <--- cavitation damage, and not the worst example I have seen
06:38 Sgt_Lemming savorak, parts of
06:38 Sgt_Lemming why?
06:38 savorak this
06:38 savorak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKV3GC0RERs&amp;feature=youtube_gdata_player
06:38 BotSteve Title: Monty Python "Sit On My Face" (Live) - YouTube
06:38 savorak :p
06:38 savorak you will laugh
06:39 Sgt_Lemming old++
06:39 Sgt_Lemming well, the song is
06:39 Sgt_Lemming I remember having it as an MP3 in 1999
06:39 savorak :p
06:39 savorak I saw it live
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06:46 savorak phone doesn't like 20 irc rooms open
06:49 Ponko damn i shouldn't of taken the risk of talking to my ex
06:49 Ponko yap yap yap yap yap
06:50 savorak lol
06:50 savorak going off at you or women talk?
06:50 savorak sorry women here
06:50 * savorak hides
06:54 Ponko lol it's cool but she is yapping
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07:02 killakee whats those things @1:42 in this movie ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYPwcK2TIOI
07:02 BotSteve Title: teslacoil questions - YouTube
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07:07 savorak back
07:07 Ponko time for sleep
07:07 savorak ok
07:08 Ponko o_O lol not you
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07:15 Sgt_Lemming killakee, looks like a cap of some description
07:15 Sgt_Lemming possibly a motor start cap
07:16 Monkeh killakee: Err, first guess, capacitors.
07:16 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Bah, beat me to it.
07:17 killakee hmrf.. i hoped you was going to say diode :P
07:17 * Sgt_Lemming puts another point on the board
07:17 Sgt_Lemming easiest solution killakee, put a multimeter on em
07:17 Monkeh Looks a lot like a gigantic, 80s era snubber to me.
07:17 killakee oh well cant use a motor start cap for something
07:17 Sgt_Lemming in resistance mode a caps resistance will slowly increase, whereas a diode will only work 1 direction
07:18 killakee ah will check
07:19 killakee its some sort of cap
07:19 Monkeh Thought so.
07:20 killakee tobad i dont know the specs
07:23 killakee i just have to try them on my little coil :P
07:26 killakee hoped it was diodes or snubbers
07:36 killakee my tc didnt like those caps XD
07:38 killakee does snubbers also increas in resistance over time too?Å
08:19 killakee no one there ?
08:20 exor674 Sgt_Lemming: a diode will only work in one direction until you arc across it :P
08:20 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, breakdown voltage
08:27 killakee exor674: does snubbers also increas in resistance over time too?
08:32 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snubber
08:32 BotSteve Title: Snubber - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
08:32 * Experimentonomen lazies in bed
08:34 killakee gues so .since it has a cap in it :P
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10:46 killakee wow.. my internett dont like my teslacoil being used :P
10:55 killakee i hate making mmc`s :/
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12:53 killakee why do i get more conssistent sparks when i ground one side of my spark gap ?
12:59 producerbill I don't know. to get to the other side?
13:02 egrsteve|away mornign
13:07 egrsteve|away anything new here?
13:09 Electricguy haha! so damn true shit :P http://existenz.se/out.php?id=43438
13:09 BotSteve Title: Chrome vs. Firefox vs. Safari vs. Opera vs. Internet Explorer @ Existenz.se
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13:11 mborton ok
13:12 Electricguy ?? p_P
13:12 Electricguy o_O*
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13:27 killakee oh my .. its going to take some time watching all the captainsblog vids ever made ...
13:29 * egrsteve|away wonders how long has been spent watching captains blogs
13:34 Hackbat egrsteve|away, have you watched all of them?
13:34 killakee nearly
13:34 killakee yeah i know im a geek XD
13:36 Hackbat I'm the same
13:37 Hackbat well it's the length of the videos minus the ear raping outro
13:37 killakee hehehe
13:45 yNos woot
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14:00 Hackbat arg
14:00 Hackbat howthefuck do you use vi
14:01 Hackbat the keys all do things, D:<
14:03 egrsteve|away I have watched most of themll or  at least most of them
14:03 egrsteve|away [D[C[D[C
14:04 egrsteve|away I don't know if I have missed any or not, if I was there I might skip parts of them I already know
14:06 egrsteve|away hi ynos
14:07 egrsteve|away did I get netsplit?
14:07 egrsteve|away or did chat die
14:08 tonsofpcs chat dead
14:08 egrsteve|away ok, chat dead, server alive
14:09 Hackbat Uber happy right now
14:09 tonsofpcs Hackbat: i for insert (before current character), a for insert after current character, escape to get out of insert mode, uh...
14:09 Hackbat I learned alt + i did it from another channel
14:10 tonsofpcs dw to delete a word, dl to delete a character, dd to delete a line, d#[w|l|d] to delete # words/characters/lines
14:10 Hackbat tonsofpcs, the guides told me how to do all that
14:10 tonsofpcs (deleting puts it into the paste buffer, really)
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14:11 * tonsofpcs hands Hackbat a copy of System V's man
14:11 Hackbat just not how to get to like normal mode
14:11 Hackbat :P
14:11 tonsofpcs escape gets out of insert and back to normal mode
14:11 Hackbat chpass used vi @_@
14:11 Hackbat so I had to use that
14:12 Hackbat alright!
14:12 Hackbat :3
14:12 egrsteve|away at least it's not emacs
14:12 Hackbat I can ssh into my home server
14:12 Hackbat then into my ssh shell
14:12 savorak why'd the geek group hafta use Justin tv the app Is like 15 dollars
14:12 Hackbat the homeserver has ssh on 88 so I'm all set
14:12 tonsofpcs :w writes, :wq writes and quits, :q! quits without saving changes
14:13 tonsofpcs because every other servicehas way too many ads to make it worthwhile
14:13 tonsofpcs but clearly you don't care
14:13 Hackbat savorak 15 bucks is damn cheap
14:13 Hackbat the software USED to cost 80 dollars
14:13 tonsofpcs eh, I wouldn't pay $15 to watch the tgg live stream
14:13 Hackbat wait what?
14:13 Hackbat watch?
14:14 Hackbat aren't we talking about the streaming software?
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14:14 tonsofpcs savorak: because every other servicehas way too many ads to make it worthwhile
14:15 Hackbat Why on earth would a college block Irc ports @_@
14:15 Hackbat or for that matter ssh?
14:16 egrsteve|away my school blocks IRc but not ssh
14:16 egrsteve|away so I ssh to irc
14:19 Hackbat I have to ssh on 88 to my home server so i can SSH to my shellmix account on 22 so I can irc on 6667 @_@
14:19 Hackbat why must you make my life hard CCC?
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14:25 egrsteve|away blocked ports make life interesting
14:26 Hackbat I need more ssh server
14:26 Hackbat *servers
14:26 Hackbat I want to string like 5 together just to use irc :3
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14:31 jericotyler test
14:32 Hackbat test
14:32 jericotyler okay good, a perfectly lag free connection
14:35 * killakee doing solderingwork after tooo mutch coffe not god :/
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14:42 egrsteve|away doing soldering without enough cofee not good
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14:45 producerbill sick at home today.... ugggggg
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14:47 wannabe1987 i hate b*tches
14:47 wannabe1987 seriously
14:47 wannabe1987 if i sit in the same spot every single day why do you think its ok for you to take it?!
14:48 wannabe1987 i sit there so i can be social AND get my work done....but i'll sit at this table WAY over here and not be social at all and get work done
14:48 wannabe1987 i never did ANYTHING to make her act like this to me....
14:49 * tonsofpcs missed something
14:50 wannabe1987 mondays and wednesdays we arrive to school an hour later
14:55 wannabe1987 so i don't get my normal sleep....so someone who isn't going to school or even TRYING to go to school gets the seat
14:57 wannabe1987 i'm trying to go to school, hence the two computers :P
15:01 producerbill what seat
15:02 producerbill at school?
15:02 wannabe1987 yes, in commons, i realize they're not labeled, but i thought i had claimed it pretty well
15:02 wannabe1987 guess not
15:02 wannabe1987 no more sleeping in
15:03 sndwrx mornin' all.
15:03 producerbill ya I hear you.  it's the geek ocd showing.
15:03 producerbill morning.
15:04 wannabe1987 is that what it is?  :P
15:04 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
15:05 producerbill ya if your like me you get into patterns and if someone steps in the way it really bug you.
15:07 producerbill morel question..... if your sick and don't go to work is it still ok to go to the lab?
15:07 wannabe1987 yes
15:07 wannabe1987 well
15:07 wannabe1987 wait
15:07 wannabe1987 how sick?
15:07 producerbill flu like over night,,, tired in morning
15:08 wannabe1987 no puking?
15:08 wannabe1987 as long as boss doesn't find out....
15:08 producerbill not so far
15:08 producerbill but some the other direction
15:08 producerbill if you get my drift
15:09 wannabe1987 well, theres plenty of working bathrooms, right?
15:11 producerbill 3
15:11 producerbill if you count them all
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16:13 BotSteve wannabe1987: remind admissionhook.com scholarship and create-a-greeting card
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16:13 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
16:13 BotSteve You're welcome, wannabe1987
16:22 Seroster Crud
16:22 Seroster I almost bought a midget today
16:22 wannabe1987 ?
16:23 sndwrx Presumably, an MG ?
16:23 Seroster MG?
16:23 wannabe1987 MGB midget
16:23 wannabe1987 a car
16:23 Seroster Nah, the direct translation of Circuit Breaker from swedish is Midget Breaker
16:24 Seroster http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dv%C3%A4rgbrytare
16:24 BotSteve Title: Dvärgbrytare - Wikipedia
16:24 sndwrx ha
16:24 devast8a Wait
16:24 Seroster .translate dvärg
16:24 devast8a It's actually called a midget?
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16:24 Seroster Dvärg = midget/dwarf
16:24 devast8a Why the hell wouldn't you buy a car called a midget?
16:24 Seroster Brytare = breaker.
16:24 Seroster Dwarf breaker. <3
16:24 wannabe1987 lol
16:25 sndwrx I guess something about dwarf tossing is slightly more endearing than dwarf breaking.
16:27 Seroster If i was a dwarf id rather be tossed than broken
16:27 wannabe1987 mhm
16:31 dbshortwave HAHAHAH @ the captains blog
16:31 dbshortwave HATE CRIME!!!!
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16:36 SuperPhosphate hello
16:37 egrsteve evenign all
16:38 egrsteve did I kill chat?
16:43 killaway^skyrim enny one inn here that does tc work?
16:47 pegasus idk what you mean by "tc work" so probably not me
16:47 pegasus anyone in here any good with complex number calculations?
16:48 killaway^skyrim tesla coil high voltage
16:48 pegasus oic
16:49 pegasus i've never really been interested in tesla coils myself
16:49 Seroster dbshortwave, what hate crime?
16:50 dbshortwave captians blog end of the video
16:51 Seroster Time index?
16:51 egrsteve I have been planning to build one and  a fair amount of research and theory
16:52 egrsteve what do you want to know about TVs
16:52 egrsteve *TCs
16:53 killaway^skyrim well only why i get a better spark when i ground the sparkgap..
16:53 killaway^skyrim its just not logical
16:53 Seroster Yes it is, but YOUR logic is flawed.
16:54 egrsteve hmm, that is odd I assume a traditional SGTC
16:54 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell batsteve HAPPY BIRTHDAY
16:54 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when batsteve is around.
16:55 killaway^skyrim ergsteve yes it is ..
16:56 egrsteve hmm, so the spark gap between the tank and the primary works better grounded
16:56 killaway^skyrim with a miniblock 3,0 e 3,0 kv out
16:56 killaway^skyrim what 3 e 3 means beats me
16:57 egrsteve so you have  a 3KV primary?
16:58 killaway^skyrim secondary
16:59 killaway^skyrim it should be possible to get 6 kv out of it if i connect it right
16:59 egrsteve spark gap should be on coil primary not secondary, although the primary will be fed frim the secondary of a std transformer
17:00 egrsteve 3 e 3?
17:00 egrsteve ok, it's a split phase output
17:01 egrsteve is e wired to earth or is connected elseware?
17:02 egrsteve from 3,0k to the other 3,0k should give you 6kv, leave e floating (no connect)
17:02 egrsteve I wonder if you have a grounding issue in your system and adding a ground to the spark gap allows more current to flow
17:02 egrsteve as a secondary path is formed
17:05 * Cprossu checks up on irc
17:06 Cprossu BotSteve: tell producerbill get better soon!
17:06 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when producerbill is around.
17:07 killaway^skyrim hmm
17:07 killaway^skyrim well the teslacoil is a metalbox old drilcase i thought that was good ground ..
17:08 egrsteve is it painted?
17:10 egrsteve when dealing with high frequency systems things don't always behave as you might ecpect them to
17:10 egrsteve the steel box may not be a good enough conductor
17:13 egrsteve I assume your TC could be described by diagram on this page http://www.richieburnett.co.uk/operation.html
17:13 BotSteve Title: Tesla coil operation
17:14 killaway^skyrim hmm yes..
17:15 killakee hmm
17:16 dbshortwave bbl
17:16 egrsteve if your only using half of your transformer shorting the gap would ground  the other half of the x-former making core saturation change
17:17 egrsteve your gap should be connected to both 3,0k connections with e to earth
17:17 egrsteve and a ground on your TC secondary
17:18 egrsteve both of these grounds should be connected together and well bonded to earth
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17:19 egrsteve if your coil is in a place you can install a ground rod(s) add a dedicated ground for the HV grounding
17:20 egrsteve hi sparky
17:21 SparkyProjects HI :)
17:21 SparkyProjects Just reading log about the TC
17:22 egrsteve look like a groundign issue to you?
17:23 SparkyProjects Possibly
17:23 SparkyProjects Killa, what transformer are you using, and is it connected something like this https://sites.google.com/site/sparkysprojects/tesla-circuit
17:23 BotSteve Title: Tesla Circuit - Sparky's Project Pages
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17:25 SparkyProjects Just noticed you had replied yes to the previous circuit.
17:27 SparkyProjects The transformer ground should be to mains earth, the secondary of the tc should be to a solid ground point, we refer to this as RF earth, ideally it should be to a separate grounding rod in the ground outside.
17:29 SparkyProjects If you think about it, the topload is one plate of a capacitor, the bottom end is the other plate, just standing it on a metal box means the plate isn't big enough
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17:32 SparkyProjects killakee ^ ?
17:33 Seroster EY sparky!
17:33 SparkyProjects Hi Seroster
17:33 Seroster I moved the raft for the winter a few weeks back
17:33 Seroster It was 90%cold on the penile lenght index xD
17:34 SparkyProjects I prefer to measure it in Nipple index :P
17:34 Seroster Let's say the penile index is a longer scale.
17:35 SparkyProjects Lets say the Nipple index is more interesting :D
17:35 Seroster I lack nipples. xD
17:35 killakee spark
17:35 killakee ah..
17:35 Seroster A 90% reduction of my nipples is like a tenth of a millimeter xD
17:35 killakee and now my old mmc died
17:36 Seroster Got the compressor out, got the raft on land, got the ballast up and time for winter =P
17:36 SparkyProjects What transformer, and what MMC are you using
17:37 killakee miniblock ip20 nst
17:37 SparkyProjects What secondary votage
17:37 killakee and 2 2kv caps and one 1,6 kv cap
17:38 SparkyProjects And did you rate the MMC at least 50% higher
17:38 killakee hehe no
17:38 killakee :P
17:39 SparkyProjects That's why it died
17:39 killakee but i have new caps
17:39 killakee 50 2 kv caps :P
17:39 SparkyProjects Do you have 'teslamap'
17:39 killakee no i havent
17:39 SparkyProjects It helps you work out values
17:39 killakee brb i got wissitors
17:39 SparkyProjects ok
17:39 killakee thanx for the help so far :)
17:39 egrsteve if you can setup  your NST with the mid tap to earth and 6 kv across the spark gap
17:40 killakee well i didnt find a diagran that tels me how to connect it ..
17:40 egrsteve with 12+kv rated mmc
17:40 egrsteve 3 connectors: 3kv e and 3kc
17:40 egrsteve 3 connectors: 3kv e and 3kv
17:40 killakee but there is 7 conections on the darn thing
17:41 egrsteve then list them all here
17:41 egrsteve and we can try to figure them out
17:42 killakee ac inn = 2 , then e god knows what that is .. gruond, and two on the top with nothing on them maybe its ground and last hv out 2.
17:44 egrsteve do you have a way to safely measure the output voltages
17:45 killakee hehe 3 kv ?
17:45 killakee or 6 no
17:45 killakee i have not
17:46 SparkyProjects http://www.verli.be/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/F.a.r.t.1.pdf
17:46 SparkyProjects Is that what you have ?
17:46 killakee if someone can find a diagram on it i would love it ... its called miniblock ip20 (fart)
17:47 killakee top left one
17:47 killakee yes :)
17:47 SparkyProjects Look to the right, there's instruction about some sort of protection etc
17:48 killakee 6kv total to earth?
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17:52 mashpriborintorg hi
17:53 SparkyProjects When you connect the mains side, you should have hot, neutral and earth.
17:53 SparkyProjects The output should only have the 2 HV wires which go to your tc circuit
17:53 killakee yes end i do
17:53 killakee :)
17:54 killakee but why is it 6 kv to ground and not between them ?
17:54 dr_jkl *flump*
17:54 egrsteve ? flump ?
17:56 dr_jkl yeah, like a couch. sack of potatoes.
17:56 egrsteve ah
17:56 SparkyProjects Looking at the page table it says 'voltage to earth = 3KV, then it says (6kv total), so this is a 3k - 0 - 3k transformer, the 0 is the ground or centre tap, which is fine
17:57 SparkyProjects cool, now you just need to work out the values, go and get http://www.teslamap.com only costs about $2 for the full version.
17:57 BotSteve Title: TeslaMap - Tesla Coil Design Program
17:58 SparkyProjects actually it's now $3
17:59 * egrsteve watching stream from an smokestack fall across the river
18:00 egrsteve *steam
18:00 SparkyProjects ?
18:00 SparkyProjects ah
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18:01 egrsteve there is a natural gas fired steam plant across the river, the moisture from compustion is falling when it reaches the top of the stack
18:02 SparkyProjects At first i thought someone was demolishing a smokestack across the river and had a camera on Stream attached :P
18:02 egrsteve I wish
18:02 killakee and this is my protection : http://www.ebay.com/itm/Neon-Transformer-Protection-Filter-Tesla-Coil-/360380454672
18:02 BotSteve Title: Neon Transformer Protection Filter Tesla Coil | eBay
18:02 egrsteve that would be cool to watch
18:04 killakee sparky is that enough for my use ?
18:04 SparkyProjects There are several vids around about demolition, you may even find the few that attach a camera to the building, they use 'demolition cam', it's basically a tough enclosure with a cam inside
18:05 egrsteve I know
18:05 egrsteve but not that same as watchig it fall while watching a stream from it as it falls
18:06 SparkyProjects That filter looks ok to me, considering my filter is built into the socket on my transformer box http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/360408716832?var=lv&amp;ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&amp;var=sbar
18:06 BotSteve Title: DELTA 03GENG3E SNAP-IN IEC MAINS FILTER 115/250V 3A on eBay!
18:06 SparkyProjects It's not protection as such, it filters out interference
18:08 killakee ah its mains filter ... i dont have that :P
18:08 Seroster Hey SparkyProjects, expanding my 4liter 16BAR OP tank with a 190BAR OP 6liter tank by putting a regulator on the 6l, a redundant overpressure safety valve and connect the 6l tank to the 4l tank. Filling the collar with weld and threading into the side of the round 6l tank. Does that seem even semi safe?
18:09 SparkyProjects killakee: that ebay thing you linked to IS a mains filter
18:10 SparkyProjects Seroster: not sure, i would just connect the 2 together, operate the machine safely within the lowest bar rating, a safety valve set at the lowest bar pressure is good
18:11 SparkyProjects you'll then have 10 litrees at 16 bar
18:12 killakee <SparkyProjects>: no its for the hv side
18:12 Seroster yes
18:12 killakee i have the diagram here
18:12 killakee ;)
18:13 SparkyProjects I don't have a filter on the HV
18:13 SparkyProjects And if you look at the values of the 2 capacitors, i doubt they'd stand the HV
18:14 SparkyProjects Is it possible that i can see the diagram you have ?
18:14 killakee they are 2 30 kv doorknob
18:14 killakee in series
18:14 killakee i have it in paper here
18:14 killakee hehe
18:15 SparkyProjects hmm, personally i wouldn't use them on HV side
18:15 SparkyProjects I only have a mains filter, and that's it
18:15 egrsteve grounding your gap may bypass your filters with 3kv
18:16 SparkyProjects I don't get interference on the radio etc
18:16 egrsteve the question is are teh filters designed to pass DC or low frequency AC
18:17 egrsteve as 50(60) hz may be high enough that the filter is blocking teh output of the NST
18:17 killakee its to protect the hv side of the nst against hi voltage spikes
18:17 egrsteve your betetr off with a safety gap for that
18:18 killakee i realy dont want to kill my nst ...
18:18 killakee you nearly cant get them in norway you see...
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18:18 egrsteve that will bleed any overvoltage
18:18 SparkyProjects I think killakee should start at step 1, use teslamap to design the coil circuit, and if the gap is across the transformer it acts as its own safety gap
18:19 egrsteve that sounds like a good plan
18:20 killakee the safety gap to ground ?
18:21 egrsteve safety gap "shorts" across the NST and it set to s slightly higher voltage than the NST outputs
18:22 killakee ok im going back to the drawingboard :P
18:22 egrsteve I would sudgest as sparky has that you check your design against telsamap and strart fresh
18:23 SparkyProjects If you use the diagram i have https://sites.google.com/site/sparkysprojects/tesla-circuit
18:23 SparkyProjects You can either include or not include the safety, if you watnt to use them, i have a vid on setting them up http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYF2JkYPMeE
18:23 BotSteve Title: Setting up Spark Gaps - YouTube
18:24 BotSteve Title: Tesla Circuit - Sparky's Project Pages
18:25 egrsteve did botsteve just title your links in the wrong order?
18:25 killakee ty :D
18:26 SparkyProjects yep, i would ges he visits the page to get the title
18:26 egrsteve I assume someone added botsteve link titles to prevent this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
18:27 BotSteve Title: RickRoll'D - YouTube
18:27 SparkyProjects yep
18:27 egrsteve I wonder how he handles link shorteners and redirecting
18:28 * egrsteve preps a link
18:29 * egrsteve prepares link if page will load
18:29 egrsteve http://goo.gl/QMET
18:29 BotSteve Title: RickRoll'D - YouTube
18:29 egrsteve botsteve follows redirects
18:30 SparkyProjects As i said, i think Bot visits the link like any human.
18:30 egrsteve http://lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2FQMET&amp;l=1
18:30 BotSteve Title: Let me google that for you
18:31 Cprossu BotSteve: tell yNos HELP ME! I am eyeing a 'fundamentals of data processing' textbook and a COBAL w/ examples book!
18:31 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
18:31 SparkyProjects he must get the title form <title> THIS<,/title>
18:31 egrsteve I know tmgtfy waits to redrect
18:32 Cprossu rofl
18:32 Electronics http://bit.ly/rp10kS
18:32 BotSteve Title: RickRoll'D - YouTube
18:32 Cprossu egrsteve rickrolled the bot.
18:32 Electronics follows multi redirects
18:33 egrsteve Yes cprossu I rickrolled the bot
18:34 Cprossu The art of Rick Rolling was developed in the early 2020 B.C by Ancient Egyptians. It was a masterful skill used by the local gangs and petty thieves as a form of stealing exotic fruits. As the victim succumbs to immeasurable rage and frustration, the thieves are provided with a small window of opportunity to pocket these fruits. However, historians were baffled and astounded by the technological prowess that these ancient Egyptians poss
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18:35 Cprossu hrmm
18:35 Cprossu .ud mac cow
18:35 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cow%20stare
18:35 Cprossu oops
18:35 Cprossu .ud mad cow
18:35 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mad%20cow
18:35 Hackbat Freenas is suuuuuch a fun OS to work with
18:36 egrsteve http://lmgtfy.com/?q=www.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoHg5SJYRHA0&amp;l=1
18:36 BotSteve Title: Let me google that for you
18:37 Hackbat .lmgtfy google
18:37 Cprossu http://lmgtfy.com/?q=rickroll
18:37 BotSteve Title: Let me google that for you
18:37 Hackbat aww :C
18:37 Cprossu .lfgtfy rickroll
18:37 Cprossu DAMN
18:37 Cprossu .lmgtfy rickroll
18:38 egrsteve I like mine better
18:38 tehdark45 Hello handles on a chat rooM
18:38 Cprossu I FAIL at the internets
18:38 tehdark45 :P
18:38 egrsteve tehdark45 check this out: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=www.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoHg5SJYRHA0&amp;l=1
18:38 BotSteve Title: Let me google that for you
18:38 Cprossu lol
18:38 Cprossu .ud denny crane
18:38 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Denny%20Crane
18:39 tehdark45 Lol i saw the log
18:39 astro73|alice I think I found the million dollar question of software QA: How do you find edge cases in software?
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18:39 tehdark45 I know it a roll
18:39 Cprossu .yt denny crane
18:39 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqsIpYQ5e_g
18:39 egrsteve i know, you have been lurking
18:39 egrsteve I need a fresh login
18:40 egrsteve Katemoster: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=www.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoHg5SJYRHA0&amp;l=1
18:40 BotSteve Title: Let me google that for you
18:40 Cprossu everyone's a lurker with .log!
18:40 Cprossu .log
18:40 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
18:40 egrsteve I know, its fun to check the log
18:40 tehdark45 lol
18:41 * egrsteve waits
18:41 SparkyProjects I usually glace through the log before logging in
18:41 tehdark45 Yeah so you know wats going on
18:41 NeWtoz you guys talk too much for me wanting to parse the back log
18:41 Cprossu What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs
18:41 Cprossu Rolls over your neighbor's dog?
18:41 Cprossu What's great for a snack and fits on your back?
18:41 Cprossu It's .log, .log, .log!
18:41 Cprossu It's .log, .log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood.
18:41 Cprossu It's .log, .log, it's better than bad, it's good!
18:41 Cprossu Everyone wants a .log! You're gonna love it, .log!
18:41 Cprossu Come on and get your .log! Everyone needs a .log!
18:41 wannabe1987 i agree with NeWtoz
18:42 NeWtoz everytime I connect to my BNC it will show everything since I've last connected
18:42 NeWtoz this channel, I ignore it
18:42 egrsteve baynet neil connelmen?
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18:44 astro73|alice (BTW, I actually do need help finding edge cases in the stuff i'm working on for BotSteve. I've resolved some of them, but there's not nearly enough bugs for me to feel comfortable about it)
18:44 Cprossu yeah I am sure.
18:44 Cprossu it's amazing how few line errors we've ended up with despite doing all kinds of bad shit to it
18:45 wannabe1987 hi astro73|alice :D
18:45 Cprossu .in 5 minutes tell BotSteve .pie wannabe1987
18:45 BotSteve Cprossu: Okay, will remind at 18:50Z
18:45 NeWtoz egrsteve, bouncer
18:45 Hackbat why do people in adventure games always store their gold in barrels?
18:45 NeWtoz if you didn't already know
18:45 astro73|alice hi wannabe
18:45 wannabe1987 how goes it?
18:46 astro73|alice fine
18:46 astro73|alice lots of school work, which i'm procrastinating by thinking about botsteve
18:46 wannabe1987 nice
18:46 astro73|alice (i do far more of that than i should)
18:46 tehdark45 astro73|alice, procrasiation ftw
18:46 wannabe1987 what, procrastination?
18:46 tehdark45 lol
18:47 tehdark45 procrastination*
18:47 Cprossu if you continue with it, BotSteve will end up taking over the defense systems and becoming our great overlord, so I say keep it up
18:47 Cprossu though he does have a soft spot for cookies and pie it seems
18:47 tehdark45 Cprossu, so BotSteve will become the new Skynet?
18:48 Cprossu only it will be a lot more hillarious.
18:48 Cprossu and it will take over the skittles factory too
18:48 astro73|alice considering that I will know how to shut it down in such a case, I am ok with this.
18:48 sndwrx wannabe1987: I like the for sale sign on the cork board.  ;)
18:48 wannabe1987 yeah?
18:48 astro73|alice or add a terminal input
18:48 wannabe1987 noones tried to buy it tho :P
18:48 Cprossu astro73|alice: you'll be laughing your ass off too much to do anything about it
18:48 wannabe1987 but i have a full tank minus 60-70 miles, so i'm ok
18:48 tehdark45 or just log in an IRC and make sure you program an off command
18:49 sndwrx wannabe1987: That's good.
18:50 wannabe1987 yep
18:50 tehdark45 lol miles
18:50 astro73|alice cprossu, entirely possible, especially since I don't actually administer it >.>
18:50 BotSteve Cprossu: tell BotSteve .pie wannabe1987
18:50 wannabe1987 Cprossu fail
18:50 Cprossu indeed it was
18:50 sndwrx Skynet... Stevenet?
18:51 tehdark45 Oh god O_O
18:51 Katemonster stevenet.
18:51 Cprossu I guess it's telling me to tell BotSteve .pie wannabe1987.. that's been programmed around
18:51 Cprossu but oh well
18:51 wannabe1987 its Batsteve's birthday today
18:51 Cprossu BotSteve: tell BotSteve .pie wannabe1987
18:51 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
18:51 Cprossu .pie wannabe1987
18:51 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I made you a ice cream pie!
18:51 sndwrx Happy birthday BatSteve-Away !!
18:51 wannabe1987 yum
18:51 Katemonster botsteve: tell botsteve: tell botsteve: tell botsteve: tell botsteve: tell botsteve: tell botsteve
18:51 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
18:51 sndwrx a
18:52 tehdark45 .tfwc v4a9x3
18:52 BotSteve 2°C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Surrey, BC, !  'You think this is cold? Have you been to upstate New York?'
18:52 wannabe1987 o.o
18:52 sndwrx a ice cream pie
18:52 Cprossu BotSteve: tell Katemonster: tell BotSteve: tell Katemonster
18:52 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when Katemonster is around.
18:52 Katemonster whowhat?
18:52 BotSteve Katemonster: I have the following messages for you:
18:52 BotSteve At 18:52Z, Cprossu asked me to tell Katemonster tell BotSteve: tell Katemonster
18:52 sndwrx He needs to learn appropriate grammar if he intends to rule the world.
18:52 tehdark45 Cprossu, bot inception?
18:53 wannabe1987 sndwrx yes
18:53 wannabe1987 i know
18:53 wannabe1987 good luck
18:53 wannabe1987 its lee
18:53 * sndwrx predicts "Idiocracy"
18:53 Cprossu let's go to costco!
18:53 Katemonster sndwrx = lwq?
18:53 Cprossu (freaking amazing costco in that movie from what I remembered)
18:54 Cprossu .g costco idiocracy
18:54 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8zNsUTWsOc
18:54 sndwrx Katemonster: Go away; I'm 'batin'!!
18:54 Katemonster uhhuhsure.
18:54 astro73|alice whatever 'batin' is
18:55 tehdark45 astro73|alice, i hope its not what i think it is lol
18:55 egrsteve http://imgur.com/XaWWJ
18:55 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
18:55 Katemonster i
18:55 Katemonster what?
18:55 astro73|alice I enjoy that crossover
18:56 Katemonster i'm horrified by that crossover.
18:56 sndwrx ...Is that Dr. Who and Monsters, Inc. ?
18:56 egrsteve yes it is
18:56 sndwrx Monsters, Inc. was kinda cute.
18:56 sndwrx I just can't get into Dr. Who.
18:57 tehdark45 too much to watch lol
18:57 Katemonster david tennant is kind of cute.
18:57 sndwrx ...or much of anything sci-fi, for that matter.
18:57 egrsteve can we kick sndwrx for that?
18:57 egrsteve (not ban just kick)
18:58 Cprossu digital image manipulation is horrifying.
18:58 Cprossu http://i.imgur.com/Jut9J.jpg
18:58 Katemonster i think yes
18:58 sndwrx Yeah I kinda figured it would immediately qualify me for outcast status.
18:58 Cprossu egrsteve we need to kill it.
18:58 Cprossu with fire.
18:58 Katemonster ALL THE BABIES
18:58 Katemonster 400 BABIES
18:58 egrsteve like chris likes to do
18:58 astro73|alice many people think Tennett is cute.
18:58 tehdark45 Bebies
18:58 astro73|alice sndwrx: It's perfectly reasonable to start with just the new stuff, or even just Season 5.
18:59 Cprossu egrsteve: I think chris is our resident expert at kill it with fire, though I think kidwell is better at it.
18:59 Katemonster NO.  do it from the beginning!
18:59 egrsteve it is pick up with it from 05
18:59 astro73|alice Cprossu: FOUR HUNDRED BABIES!
18:59 Cprossu .yt SO MANY BABIES
18:59 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRuNxHqwazs
18:59 * Katemonster is the resident expert of kill it with artillery
18:59 astro73|alice also, some scifi is TOTALLY WORTH IT.
18:59 egrsteve kidwell would make naypalm for the occasion
18:59 wannabe1987 i'd start with 2005....thats where i'll start :D
19:00 Cprossu and it would burn down everything too egrsteve
19:00 egrsteve exactly
19:00 egrsteve it's been contaminated
19:00 Katemonster http://youtu.be/a8LqxoWIjrc
19:00 BotSteve Title: POWER THIRST-VIDEO GAME EDITION! - YouTube
19:00 Cprossu and 23 hours after and it's still burning he'd just put his hands up all like "Hey, I only made it to burn for 12 hours"
19:00 * egrsteve left his skittles on the car :(
19:00 tehdark45 and this is why we are the weird guys in the corner blowing stuff up
19:00 tehdark45 lol
19:01 Cprossu wannabe1987 probably got them already
19:01 wannabe1987 who, dr who?
19:01 Cprossu no tehdark45: theis is why we can't have NICE things
19:01 Cprossu .yt this is why we can't have nice things
19:01 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZeHUwr-zWa8
19:01 tehdark45 RIP Red button of science
19:01 Cprossu damn
19:01 Cprossu that sucked
19:01 sndwrx Actually, I'm gonna start with not not watching at all.
19:01 * sndwrx snickers.
19:02 wannabe1987 sndwrx were you here today?
19:02 sndwrx yep.
19:02 wannabe1987 the GSA had free things from the bake sale....
19:02 wannabe1987 so i had free gay cake and cupcakes and brownies
19:02 sndwrx Hence mention of the corkboard sign.
19:02 Cprossu tehdark45: I have a big red button of science
19:02 sndwrx Free huh?  Surprised my brother didn't come home with anything.
19:02 egrsteve it's big and red
19:02 tehdark45 But its not the Bakelite Thumper one
19:02 tehdark45 :P
19:02 wannabe1987 it was only free after 1...:P
19:02 Cprossu I bought it from the industrial supply place across the street from tgg.
19:02 Cprossu yes it is tehdark45
19:03 egrsteve but does it blow stuff up?
19:03 Cprossu same model even
19:03 Cprossu not yet.
19:03 sndwrx Where is the industrial supply place across the street from tgg?
19:03 sndwrx I can only think of the bike shop and nothing else of interest.
19:03 wannabe1987 same
19:03 astro73|alice leanard, about a mile down from the high way
19:04 sndwrx I know there's a supply place just east of the highway, on the north side of Leonard.
19:04 egrsteve I think he means industrial sales and surplus
19:04 egrsteve on.. um...
19:04 Cprossu yeah egrsteve
19:04 Cprossu that's it I think
19:04 wannabe1987 i used to live over there and idk what you're talking about :P
19:04 * wannabe1987 fail
19:04 sndwrx Sometimes there is fun stuff to be found at Pitsch.
19:04 sndwrx Just up Alpine off of Turner or something.
19:05 sndwrx I can't remember off-hand.
19:05 egrsteve sorry Surplus Industrial Supply
19:05 Cprossu eitherway whatever ^
19:05 egrsteve by scribner and front
19:05 Cprossu that's where I went and got a big red REES button
19:05 sndwrx That might be the place I'm thinking of.
19:05 tehdark45 I found a place in Wyoming
19:05 Cprossu cat 00662-002
19:06 sndwrx Though I could swear there is also one on Leonard right there.
19:06 egrsteve it's just off leonard
19:06 sndwrx Right.
19:06 Cprossu http://www.partlancer.com/pics/Rees-HD-Red-Mushroom-Pushbutton-Switches-00662-002-New.jpg
19:06 Cprossu big red buttons of science rock.
19:06 sndwrx I'm looking at SIS right now on street view.
19:07 sndwrx I don't think that's the place I am thinking of.
19:08 sndwrx All I know is that I really miss the old Treasure Chest.
19:08 Cprossu the place I was talking about was a gigantic warehouse full of industrial crap.
19:08 sndwrx Yeah there are a couple around town.
19:08 sndwrx Not descript enough to determine.  :P
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19:09 Cprossu I have a picture from inside of it but it's just a large gaylord filled up 1/2 way with high pressure mercury vapor lamps
19:09 egrsteve hmm, I don't think is't meth head scrappers where dealign with, I think it's all the "medical" merijuana on there way home from down the street
19:10 Cprossu HAHAHAAHAHAH
19:10 sndwrx Ah okay there's the building sign for Surplus Industrial Supply.  Definitely not the place I had in mind.
19:10 Cprossu @ Captain's blog
19:10 Cprossu that's priceless
19:10 egrsteve as there is one less than 1/4 mile away
19:10 sndwrx There is, or was, another supply place just a couple blocks south and a couple blocks east.
19:11 sndwrx egrsteve: There's a compassion club just north of Leonard on Plainfield.  Is there another that's closer to TGG?
19:11 egrsteve on walker ave?
19:11 sndwrx No on Leonard, or RIGHT near.
19:12 sndwrx It's right there in the Leonard/131 corridor.
19:12 egrsteve according tto google maps shakedown street
19:12 sndwrx Oh.
19:12 sndwrx Yeah Shakedown has been there forever.
19:12 sndwrx That's not a compassion club.
19:12 sndwrx It's a head shop.
19:12 egrsteve I know
19:12 egrsteve it's the scappers alt source of fun
19:12 sndwrx meh, TGG is on the West Side.  What can you expect?
19:13 InteliWasp the kindle fire was rooted last night
19:13 egrsteve P & F supply?
19:14 egrsteve on broadway?
19:14 Cprossu InteliWasp that slower than I expected ;)
19:14 InteliWasp less than 24 hours?
19:14 InteliWasp they were released yesterday
19:14 InteliWasp review units were released monday
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19:18 Cprossu hence the wink InteliWasp
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19:18 InteliWasp i am waiting on the nook tablet to be released and hack ice cream on it
19:19 sndwrx Yeah the Nook Tablet is a much nicer tablet, as far as I'm concerned.
19:19 sndwrx For that matter I like the Nook color a lot more than the Kindle line, anyway.
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19:20 wannabe1987 hi astro73-bot :D
19:21 astro73|alice ok, I think i figured out how to test my new code. It'll sit in here, but any responses it would say in here go to me.
19:21 egrsteve astro73-bot: help
19:22 astro73|alice If you want to play with it, go to #tgg-bots
19:22 egrsteve _help
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19:22 egrsteve I could or I could abuse it here and have it go to you
19:22 astro73|alice thanks
19:23 * sndwrx snickers.
19:23 InteliWasp *note to self* must upgrade to 3 monitors
19:23 astro73|alice this way, it's using real data, but it's not spamming and clogging the regular channel
19:23 sndwrx Two is nice, but three can be much more efficient.
19:24 InteliWasp once you go > one you can never go back...
19:24 astro73|alice sndwrx: What about 4? or 6? or just a omnitheater of desktop space?
19:24 sndwrx Yeah, no, it's impossible.
19:24 sndwrx astro73|alice: Six is my preference.
19:24 InteliWasp go vertical
19:24 InteliWasp 2x2 layout
19:24 sndwrx Right.  Two rows of three.
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19:25 egrsteve I prefer the IMAX fomat, omnidome is too curved
19:26 wannabe1987 hi Experimentonomen
19:26 sndwrx I designed a 360-degree, fully immersive gaming environment using six projectors.
19:27 egrsteve hard to do cad on thatt much of a curve
19:27 sndwrx Which later was upgraded to two nice projectors and expensive Christie lenses.
19:27 astro73|alice actually, driving a continuous desktop on an omnidome would be challenging. You'd need special desktop manager to handle the non-euclidean coordinates
19:27 SuperPhosphate hello, cool sndwrx
19:27 * Experimentonomen is mucking around with xbox 360 XBLA files and Modio to access the consoles hdd on the pc to edit stuff
19:27 wannabe1987 hey SuperPhosphate, its dutch-american heritage day....i should celebrate with stroopwaffles, but noone'll send me some....
19:28 SuperPhosphate yes it would be hard doing 360
19:28 SuperPhosphate lol
19:28 SuperPhosphate have a poffetje
19:28 wannabe1987 i don't have any.....i don't ahve anything dutch :'(
19:28 sndwrx I didn't configure it so that the right edge of the screen would dump the mouse cursor into the left edge of the screen.
19:28 wannabe1987 i can buy stroopwaffles at the store, but i'm not near that store :P (meijer)
19:28 astro73|alice It depends on where you put your origin. Either towards the edges or towards the top.
19:29 sndwrx It wasn't necessary though that would have been cool to implement.
19:29 egrsteve wannabe go visit vanderveens
19:29 sndwrx My associate and I worked with the lead developer of the Sauerbraten engine and made some modifications so it would render in 360.
19:29 wannabe1987 thats in holland!  i'm in greenville!
19:29 egrsteve it's in grandville :)
19:29 astro73|alice sndwrx: Nice.
19:30 egrsteve slightly closser
19:30 wannabe1987 not close enough to make it worth it
19:30 astro73|alice also, I need to figure out why alice's tab complete is broken
19:30 wannabe1987 i'll have some wilhelmina peppermints tho :D
19:30 SuperPhosphate that will do, we have peppermints here too
19:31 Seroster Hello SuperPhosphate, how are you today?
19:32 Cprossu k astro73|alice
19:34 SuperPhosphate hI Im fine thanks :)
19:34 wannabe1987 yes, wilhelmina peppermints ROCK
19:34 sndwrx .yuno INSTALL FASTER DEBIAN
19:34 BotSteve Fat people who don't wear shirts: Y U NO HAVE SHAME??????
19:35 wannabe1987 they last w ahile tho
19:35 SuperPhosphate How are you?
19:35 sndwrx oh.  right.  I forgot what .yuno actually does.
19:35 * sndwrx chuckles.
19:35 wannabe1987 last a while*
19:35 wannabe1987 lol
19:35 Seroster .bored
19:35 BotSteve Maybe you should...Record your walls
19:35 sndwrx ...
19:36 Seroster YES! I shall record my walls in order to bore other people on youtube!
19:36 egrsteve .bored
19:36 BotSteve Maybe you should...Appreciate everything
19:36 egrsteve .bored
19:36 BotSteve Maybe you should...Carry a tune...drop it, see if it breaks
19:36 egrsteve .bored
19:36 BotSteve Maybe you should...Revert
19:36 Seroster egrsteve, Five times and Ill stab ya
19:36 sndwrx RETREAT
19:36 sndwrx .yuno
19:36 BotSteve User: Y U NO HAVE LIFE??????????????????
19:36 wannabe1987 re-eat?
19:36 * egrsteve hides in corner
19:36 egrsteve .bored
19:36 BotSteve Maybe you should...Give yourself a hernia...for Christmas
19:37 sndwrx hahah
19:37 egrsteve (thast 4)
19:37 * sndwrx slaps BotSteve.
19:37 sndwrx He doesn't respond to emotes, eh?
19:37 sndwrx .yuno
19:37 BotSteve Printer: Y U NO PRINT?????????????
19:39 egrsteve .yuno?
19:39 egrsteve .yuno
19:39 BotSteve Weekend: Y U NO LAST LONGER???????????
19:39 wannabe1987 amen
19:39 tehdark45 My weekend starts on Friday
19:39 egrsteve bot steve needs better grammer (and spelling)
19:40 wannabe1987 my weekend starts.....well, i don't have a "week" so yeah
19:40 egrsteve my weekend starts... whats a weekend?
19:40 wannabe1987 days off ?
19:41 sndwrx imma be, imma imma imma be
19:42 Cprossu that was sure interesting @ astro73|alice
19:42 egrsteve hmmm http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=europe-bans-x-ray-body-scanners
19:42 BotSteve Title: Europe Bans X-Ray Body Scanners Used at U.S. Airports: Scientific American
19:43 egrsteve next time I fly I should find a radation badge, although i don't fly much
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19:44 astro73|alice cprossu: I'm glad you think so
19:44 Cprossu_Netbook I wonder if I left any tells here heh
19:44 Cprossu_Netbook not for this screename but it does reset the timer
19:44 Cprossu_Netbook .seen Cprossu_Laptop
19:44 BotSteve Cprossu_Netbook: I last saw cprossu_laptop 572.55 hours ago at 2011-10-23 23:11:30 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:44:27 UTC
19:44 astro73-bot Sorry, I haven't seen cprossu_laptop around.
19:44 wannabe1987 o.o
19:44 Cprossu_Netbook that's entirely fine wannabe1987
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19:45 egrsteve astro, can you impliment wild cards in .seen so .seen cprossu* would list all his nick varents
19:45 Cprossu_Netbook that would be a horrifying tool for a person like me
19:45 Cprossu_Netbook as I think I've stated before
19:45 egrsteve why?
19:45 Cprossu_Netbook wildcards are a pandoras box (of fun
19:45 Cprossu_Netbook when it comes to exploiting something
19:45 egrsteve exactly
19:46 Cprossu_Netbook and nearly opens up so many doors it's impossible to fix it
19:46 egrsteve sanatize the input to only valid chars
19:46 egrsteve adn -_ ect
19:46 astro73|alice egrsteve: I've got a backlog of Big Items I'm working through, but I've filled it away on github, so it won't be forgotton
19:46 Cprossu_Netbook well if I do a *a* I'll get everyone who had a a in their name
19:47 egrsteve with omaybe end only wildcards
19:47 egrsteve so a* results in all nicks starting in A
19:47 egrsteve and limit botsteve to reply only the 5 most recent
19:47 JessiKatemonster no, you could have some fun with that.  flip it so that seaching a* gives you all nicks that /don't/ contain a
19:48 egrsteve no thast ~a*
19:48 egrsteve or !a*
19:48 JessiKatemonster no, flip it on purpose so it fucks with people
19:49 egrsteve the question is bitwise or boolian
19:51 * JessiKatemonster pokes exor674 with a stick
19:52 wannabe1987 don't hurt dre!
19:52 JessiKatemonster i didn't poke her /hard.
19:52 wannabe1987 ok!
19:53 JessiKatemonster that would be more like...
19:53 * JessiKatemonster jabs Cprossu_Netbook with the stick
19:55 JessiKatemonster jess and i are sitting in a presentation by a university representative for U-Idaho
19:55 wannabe1987 why?
19:55 egrsteve exciting?
19:55 wannabe1987 sounds boring
19:55 wannabe1987 masterofmonks: what was that one keyboard thing you were telling me about for two computers?
19:56 JessiKatemonster because it was a condition of getting pizza
19:56 astro73|alice that's totally legit then
19:56 wannabe1987 yep
19:56 JessiKatemonster :D
19:56 wannabe1987 they do that at MCC too
19:56 wannabe1987 i listened to david lockington of the sypmphony play cello and got pizza
19:56 wannabe1987 it was for students only, but i
19:57 wannabe1987 "listened" and my friends had "leftover pizza" that i ate
19:57 sndwrx wannabe1987: Synergy?  Control multiple computers with one keyboard/mouse?
19:57 wannabe1987 yeah.
19:57 sndwrx JessiKatemonster: Are you from Idaho?
19:57 wannabe1987 how does that work?
19:57 SuperPhosphate all that reminds me of the dos commands
19:57 JessiKatemonster kind of?
19:57 JessiKatemonster i'm in spokane
19:57 sndwrx wannabe1987: I was just wondering if that's what you were referring to.
19:57 JessiKatemonster northern idaho basically counts as part of spokane
19:57 wannabe1987 yes.  i am.  i have questions about how it works.....
19:58 * wannabe1987 has ITCHY EYE eeeee :(
19:58 sndwrx Ah.  I was in Spokane, WA as well as Boise, ID and Mountain Home, ID several months ago.
19:58 egrsteve ttyl
19:58 wannabe1987 he says stabbing is not funny
19:58 wannabe1987 i thought it was
19:58 wannabe1987 :(
19:58 sndwrx wannabe1987: You install Synergy server on one machine, Synergy client on other machines.  Configure them in the screen positioning that you want, and go.
19:59 sndwrx wannabe1987: What are your questions?
19:59 wannabe1987 so i use my laptop/netbook keyboard with the othe computer?
19:59 sndwrx (mental note:  The computer doesn't know what you're trying to say, therefore tab completion doesn't work for regular words and sentence forming.
19:59 sndwrx If you want, yeah.
20:00 sndwrx But the other computer still requires its own monitor.
20:00 wannabe1987 sounds confusing
20:00 wannabe1987 both computer have monitors, they're laptop and netbook
20:00 sndwrx It's actually pretty simple and it somewhat simulates a multi-display set up.
20:00 wannabe1987 sounds like *i* would get confused as to which computer the keyboard was on....
20:00 wannabe1987 i already have the keyboards set up for dvorak and i get confused there
20:01 sndwrx Depends on which computer the mouse cursor is displaying.
20:01 wannabe1987 hmmm
20:01 sndwrx If the cursor is on the left screen, you're interacting with the left computer, etc.
20:01 wannabe1987 i'll have to try it sometime
20:02 sndwrx It's pretty slick.  If you just want more screen real estate, however, then plugging an external monitor into your laptop would be easier.
20:02 JessiKatemonster the engineering club here brings in recruiters from the local universities and gives us pizza for watching them
20:02 wannabe1987 no, the laptop has lots of screen vs the netbook, its why i have social stuff on the netbook and type on the laptop....
20:03 killakee back
20:03 wannabe1987 yay
20:03 * sndwrx nods.
20:03 killakee still here sparky ?
20:04 sndwrx wannabe1987: Yeah so you'd just use the laptop's mouse/trackpad and keyboard and whichever screen you see the mouse cursor on (to simplify things), then that's the one you're working with.
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20:04 wannabe1987 hi tlockley
20:04 tlockley hey wannabe1987
20:04 tlockley whats news
20:04 sndwrx wannabe1987: Of course they both still operate independently so if you were to alt+tab between applications, it would only switch between the applications running on whichever machine you're currently controlling.
20:04 wannabe1987 its bats birthday today....(batsteve)
20:04 wannabe1987 well, yes
20:05 tlockley i see...
20:08 wannabe1987 mhm
20:09 wannabe1987 whats news for you?
20:09 tlockley meh, almost finished with the concept for a new website/app thingy that I think may bennefit TGG
20:09 wannabe1987 cool
20:09 tlockley yah
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20:28 Seroster angy... Where is my angy?
20:28 Seroster .seen angy
20:28 astro73-bot Sorry, I haven't seen angy around.
20:28 BotSteve Seroster: I last saw angy 68.76 hours ago at 2011-11-13 23:43:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 20:28:56 UTC
20:29 Seroster I WANT MY ANGY
20:32 masterofmonks wannabe1987: synergy
20:32 wannabe1987 ok.
20:34 sndwrx getting
20:34 sndwrx sleepy
20:34 sndwrx dozing at desk
20:36 wannabe1987 best place to sleep is UNDER the desk
20:37 Cheezmo_Skyrim wannabe1987, it depends if there's room... Last time I slept under a desk, it was rather cramped
20:37 Cheezmo_Skyrim needless to say, the rest of the house was cramped
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20:37 kellyEv mcc sucks
20:40 sndwrx Part of their problem is Casair.
20:40 sndwrx But what's your complaint?  :P
20:40 kellyEv internet
20:40 kellyEv it keeps needing to be reauthenticated
20:47 tlockley does it kick you off and make you go though a landing page wannabe1987
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20:49 zimm_swe anyone awake?
20:49 masterofmonks Maybe.
20:49 zimm_swe :)
20:54 wannabe1987 tlockley yes
20:54 wannabe1987 zimm_swe we better be...its like almost 4 in the afternoon :P
20:54 tlockley do you have a social network open in the background when you are on irc?
20:55 wannabe1987 yep
20:55 tlockley well there goes that theory
20:56 Sgt_Lemming sigh
20:56 Sgt_Lemming got there are some wankers playing CS:S
20:56 Sgt_Lemming god*
20:57 Sgt_Lemming just had a guy bitching at me for like 5 rounds because I apparently kept stealing all his kills
20:57 Sgt_Lemming even when he was nowhere near me
20:57 tlockley heh, lol
20:57 zimm_swe thats counterstrike for you :P
20:57 Sgt_Lemming yeah
20:58 masterofmonks It's the FPS illness
21:05 Cheezmo_Skyrim They all try compensating for a lack of skill by blaming everything else
21:05 Cheezmo_Skyrim because "OMG I HAD THAT SHOT LINED UP"
21:05 Sgt_Lemming yeah
21:06 wannabe1987 so i was talking to a friend the other day, who was playing halo (which he does a lot) and asked him how skyrim was and he had never heard of skyrim....his girlfriend and i were dismayed, she had even heard of it!
21:06 Cheezmo_Skyrim haha
21:06 Cheezmo day off Skyrim today
21:06 Cheezmo we'll see how long I last
21:06 wannabe1987 lol
21:06 Cheezmo :B
21:06 wannabe1987 good luck
21:07 Cheezmo yeah, I'll probably need the distraction from this depressing job market in a couple hours
21:07 * wannabe1987 is writing an essay on how to fix the job market
21:07 Cheezmo Employers need to fucking realize that experience doesn't make someone good "V
21:07 Cheezmo :V
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21:08 wannabe1987 more like we need to make more shit here in america :P
21:08 Sgt_Lemming Cheezmo, it does tend to indicate whether or not someone can do the job or not though
21:08 Cheezmo wannabe1987, I lost my one job because shit was being made in the US instead of Canada
21:08 Cheezmo outsourced all our stuff to Arizona and Florida
21:08 wannabe1987 hmmm not my fault?
21:09 wannabe1987 yes Sgt_Lemming, you're right, but i've got a certificate in it, you'd think i could do the job...
21:09 sndwrx Experience doesn't necessarily make someone good, no, but an experienced person without a degree /can/, and often is, more qualified than a person with a degree but no experience.
21:09 sndwrx And that seems to be an issue in West Michigan.
21:09 Sgt_Lemming certificate in it, only proves you can pass tests on how to do it
21:09 sndwrx Precisely.
21:09 wannabe1987 i've done the job before i had the certificate too
21:09 Cheezmo I haven't had a chance to get my avionics license because nobody will bloody well hire me "U
21:09 Sgt_Lemming doesn't prove that you can actually apply that knowledge on a day to day basis
21:10 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, then you have experience, so what's the issue?
21:10 wannabe1987 because since then i can't hold a job for more than 2 months so i seem "unstable"
21:10 wannabe1987 by the time i'll GET the job i won't remember my CNA stuffs anymore
21:10 sndwrx What do you have a certificate in?
21:10 wannabe1987 now i'm going for EMT
21:10 sndwrx Oh CNA.
21:11 sndwrx Have you applied for any positions in GR?  Seems like the heathcare industry is ALWAYS hiring in the greater Grand Rapids area.
21:11 wannabe1987 most of the jobs want 6-12 months experience...i have 2 months + clinicals
21:11 sndwrx Or practically everywhere, for that matter.  Except Carson City.
21:11 * sndwrx snickers.
21:11 wannabe1987 ...
21:12 wannabe1987 yeah...i have,  ut i can't work for spectrum, so that cancels out a LOT of hospitals....
21:12 sndwrx Oh you can't?
21:12 sndwrx Time to get the heck out of dodge, then.
21:12 wannabe1987 no, but i wonder if writing a letter saying i learned my lesson and i won't do it again would help any....(leaving aj ob w/o notice)
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21:13 sndwrx Oh.  Well that's a shitty thing to do, but are you certain you're ineligible for re-hire by them because of that?
21:13 sndwrx hi injektion
21:13 wannabe1987 yep
21:13 wannabe1987 they told me so
21:13 wannabe1987 when i went to apply for a job
21:13 wannabe1987 i went to HR and HR says no, sorry
21:13 injektion Is there a decent program that can recover files deleted from an NTFS drive?
21:13 sndwrx bummer.
21:14 Cheezmo injektion: roadkil.net
21:14 Cheezmo go into download/data recovery
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21:15 injektion Thanks
21:15 wannabe1987 SPEED!
21:15 douglas wannabe!
21:15 wannabe1987 omg you're alive!
21:15 douglas ....
21:16 douglas i made an oc poney for brohoof.com
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21:16 douglas i just got to work on the charicter
21:16 wannabe1987 lol ok
21:16 injektion I need to try and watch MLP
21:16 Cheezmo It's actually rather amusing
21:17 douglas its awesome!
21:17 Cheezmo the animation is top-notch
21:17 douglas yep
21:17 wannabe1987 :headdesk:
21:17 Av_Nekoroms btw what did you do on american censorship day
21:17 wannabe1987 i posted shit about it on facebook
21:18 douglas i didnt really find out in time
21:18 wannabe1987 i signed a petition on change.org about it yesterday
21:22 Av_Nekoroms http://americancensorship.org/
21:22 BotSteve Title: American Censorship Day November 16 - Join the fight to stop SOPA
21:28 Cprossu I think I'll do [redacted] for American Censorship  DAY
21:29 Cprossu @ wannabe1987 and Av_Nekoroms
21:29 wannabe1987 huh?
21:30 Cprossu line above this one.
21:30 Cprossu or that one
21:30 Cprossu or the other one
21:30 wannabe1987 ik  whats redacted
21:30 Sgt_Lemming but what about [redacted] or [redacted], [redacted] Cprossu?
21:30 wannabe1987 ...
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21:30 Cprossu I'll be doing all of those types of  things  too
21:31 wannabe1987 hi dbshortwave
21:31 Sgt_Lemming does that include [redacted] the [redacted]?
21:32 wannabe1987 [redacted]
21:32 injektion I'm going to do [RRRRRRREEEEEDDDDAAAAACTTTTTEEEEEDDDDD]
21:32 Cprossu .                           . @ Sgt_Lemming
21:33 wannabe1987 math help please....if there are 312,615,000 people in america, and 9% are unemployed, how many are unemployed?  (i hate percentages)
21:33 Cprossu way more than 9%.
21:33 douglas the redacted vertion of the constitution is pritty funny
21:33 zimm_swe alot
21:33 Cprossu 9% only includes those who are ON unemployment
21:33 wannabe1987 awwwww
21:33 Cprossu unemployment runs out you know ^_^
21:33 wannabe1987 yes
21:33 wannabe1987 i know
21:33 wannabe1987 i've never been able to get on
21:34 wannabe1987 then how many are unemployed?  i thought 9% was low....
21:34 Cheezmo I can only get unemployment if I were laid off or job burned down...
21:34 Cprossu realistically, 1 in 4.
21:34 wannabe1987 so whats 25% of 312,615,000?
21:35 zimm_swe just wondering. i saw somwhere that seeding all the cameras att tgg-lab would take too mouch broadband... so how fast is the connection att tgg-lab? /offtopic ^^
21:35 Cprossu get out your little calculator (or .c) and just type 312,615,000 / 4
21:35 wannabe1987 .c 312615000/4
21:35 BotSteve 78 153 750
21:35 wannabe1987 i don't even know how to make it into a maths question, but thanks Cprossu
21:36 tlockley zimm_swe: 16/5 ish
21:36 tlockley Mbits
21:36 tlockley IIRC
21:36 Cprossu ^ at times
21:36 Cprossu upload is usually around 2 or less
21:36 tlockley Hah, lol
21:36 zimm_swe :O
21:36 Cprossu and we have the most evil traffic shaping on the planet attached to our conn zimm_swe
21:36 Monkeh Le carp
21:36 Cprossu Comcast.
21:37 Monkeh Comcrap
21:37 wannabe1987 BURN COMcast?
21:37 tlockley do they run shaping on the connection?
21:37 Cprossu then we wouldn't have any internet.
21:37 Cprossu oh yes.
21:37 Cprossu and it's aggressive
21:37 wannabe1987 can't get something else?
21:37 zimm_swe i have 100/10 mbit and im in a 50 square meter flat with my gf only ^^
21:37 Cprossu nope.
21:37 Monkeh zimm_swe: Yes but you're a damned swede.
21:38 Cprossu I've got ~30/20 and I am damn happy with it. Despite the fact I pay for 20/5.5
21:38 Monkeh You need fast internet to make up for your country being barren and empty. :P
21:38 tlockley 20/10 here when it wants to be
21:38 zimm_swe i guess so ^^
21:38 zimm_swe is it expensive to have broadband in the states?
21:39 tlockley oh yah
21:39 Cprossu $60 usd / month
21:39 tlockley decent cable is outragous
21:39 tlockley *outrageous
21:39 douglas dose nt the sencorship bill just alow isp's to block dns services to sertain websites?
21:39 tlockley no
21:40 douglas which if you had the ip adress it wouldnt stop you
21:40 tlockley its dns and payment, and ads and everything else
21:40 douglas ?
21:40 zimm_swe wow.
21:40 tlockley having the IP is only half the battle, many shared servers tend not to reply correctly to ip only requests
21:41 tlockley so you would need a new dns server/network
21:41 tlockley but under the new bill IIRC circumvention is also grounds for legal action
21:41 tlockley or atleast they will make it that way if it passes
21:41 injektion I hurt my hand at work and it still hurts
21:42 injektion I slipped and fell and my hand hit the case erector
21:44 wannabe1987 :(
21:44 Monkeh tlockley: Circumvent my own in-house DNS server. ISP DNS is crap anyway.
21:45 tlockley i know, i have my own dns too. however the bill is extremely broad in its definitions
21:45 Monkeh tlockley: And you yanks still think you have rights and freedoms.. :)
21:46 tlockley we only want "freedom" *sarcasm* for the rest of the world
21:46 tlockley we never said we would apply it to our selves
21:47 Seroster Does circuit breakers come in <10 amps?
21:47 wannabe1987 tlockley agreed
21:47 tlockley Seroster i dont see why not, but they probably arent common
21:47 tlockley http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/SUPCO-5-Amp-Circuit-Breaker-1DKR5
21:48 tlockley Seroster: ^
21:48 Seroster The smallest thread#2 fuses I can find are 6
21:48 BotSteve Title: 5 Amp Circuit Breaker, Push Button - Circuit Protection Devices - Distribution - 1DKR5 : Grainger Industrial Supply
21:48 Seroster Does that fit on a DIN rail?
21:48 tlockley no, its inline
21:48 Seroster Crap
21:48 tlockley what do you need it for
21:49 Sgt_Lemming 5A is pretty small for a din rated breaker
21:49 Seroster I want something like this http://sqionline.co.za/catalog/images/chint1p.jpg but for 5a
21:49 astro73-bot NameError: global name 'phenny' is not defined (file "/home/astronouth7303/code/tgg-BotSteve/modules/head.py", line 106, in gettitle)
21:49 Sgt_Lemming rated/mounted
21:49 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, ANYTHING below 10 will do
21:49 Seroster Even 9.5 or 8
21:49 Sgt_Lemming 9.9 recurring?
21:49 Sgt_Lemming :-P
21:51 Sgt_Lemming there are 470 results on digikey for din rail breakers <10A
21:51 Sgt_Lemming what voltage, how many poles?
21:52 Seroster HA Elfa provides.
21:52 Seroster https://www.elfa.se/elfa3~se_sv/elfa/init.do?item=36-094-90&amp;toc=18782
21:53 BotSteve Title: Automatsäkring 6 A 1-polig | ELFA – Allt mellan antenn och jord
21:53 Sgt_Lemming isn't that a 3phase + neutral breaker?
21:53 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, <400v <10A (preferably 6) 1-2 poles
21:53 killakee have a lovely night/day whatever it is .. night .. and say happy birthday to batsteve
21:54 Seroster Says it is one pole, sarge
21:54 Sgt_Lemming picture looks a lot more than one
21:54 zimm_swe picture is wrong
21:54 Sgt_Lemming AC or DC?
21:54 SparkyProjects Sgt_Lemming: there are circuit breakers rated at 5 amps available anywhere that sells other ratings, they are standard for lighting circuits, especially at 240 volts.
21:54 SparkyProjects It's also possible to get 2 amp ones, they are used in control cabinets for control circuits.
21:54 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: AC. That's a bog standard MCB.
21:54 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, it's not for me
21:54 Seroster Ac, mains.
21:55 Sgt_Lemming and I'd not seen a din rail mounted one below 10A before
21:55 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Where do you live, again?
21:55 Sgt_Lemming Australia
21:55 Monkeh Ah.
21:55 Monkeh See, here in Europe (UK for me) everything is DIN rail mounted
21:55 Sgt_Lemming Seroster http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/9926251506/281-2529-ND/1788826
21:55 BotSteve Title: Digi-Key - 281-2529-ND (Manufacturer - 9926251506)
21:55 Monkeh Normal values: 6, 10, 16, 20, 25, 32, 40, 45, 50
21:56 Monkeh (25 and 45 vary by manufacturer)
21:56 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Haven't seen a 5A MCB in a very long while.
21:56 Seroster I am building my test PSU with contactor, indicator lights, built in ammeter, voltmeter, shuko outlet, a terminal block, built in points for capacitors, and I want a fuse that will trip before my apartment fuse blows, so if I short it out the box breaker is supposed to go before the apartment breaker.
21:57 Monkeh Seroster: A 6A MCB should go before the breaker or fuse on your socket circuit.
21:57 Sgt_Lemming I would suggest putting an RCD on it as well
21:57 Seroster erm.
21:57 SparkyProjects ah, ok, most are now 6 amps, they uprated them to reduce nuisance tripping
21:57 SparkyProjects But http://australia.rs-online.com/web/c/fuses-sockets-circuit-breakers/circuit-breakers/residential-mcbs
21:57 SparkyProjects I know you don't like RS, but if they have them for australia, i don't see why you can't get them from other suppliers
21:57 BotSteve Title: Residential MCBs - for online sales of Circuit Breakers| RS Components
21:57 Monkeh Seroster: I say 'should', a dead short has a fair chance of taking out the circuit too.
21:57 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Pretty sure it was just to harmonise things actually
21:58 Seroster Yes, Monkeh. I try to avoid shorts =)
21:58 Monkeh SparkyProjects: 5/6A makes little or no difference as far as nuisance tripping with light bulbs.
21:58 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, again not for me, and I had never seen one below 10A before looking for it today
21:58 Sgt_Lemming they generally don't use them here from what I know
21:58 Monkeh SparkyProjects: What you really want is a C6 for that.
21:58 SparkyProjects Think about fluorescent tubes Mokeh
21:58 Monkeh SparkyProjects: You rarely see those in any quantity on a 6A circuit ;)
21:59 Seroster Lol
21:59 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Normally they're on a C10 or C16 if there's more than a few of them.
21:59 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Biggest nuisance trip is a good old fashioned lightbulb failing, and a C6 typically copes with that.
21:59 Seroster Anyhow. I want a 2300watt infrared heater to NOT trip my main fuse, achieving this by having a 1500watt breaker on the PSU
22:00 Monkeh Seroster: 2.3kW shouldn't trip your main fuse anyway.
22:00 Seroster Yes it should.
22:00 Sgt_Lemming inrush current mebe if the breaker is a bit too sensitive
22:00 Monkeh Seroster: ... How low rated is it?
22:00 Seroster 10amps, 230volts
22:00 Sgt_Lemming mains breaker should be 10A which is 2300watts at 230v
22:00 Monkeh Seroster: Okay, so a really sensitive B10 might. But a C10 wouldn't.
22:00 Seroster Main fuse as in "The thing that is installed on the wall" - I have a bunch of them
22:00 Sgt_Lemming but a breaker shouldn't trip instantly at it's rating
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22:01 SparkyProjects In older properties where there was only one lightig circuit, it was common to have one in the kitchen, one in a utility room, and even one in the living room (70's style circular), without rewiring, the extra amp was all they could do.
22:01 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, A 6a SHOULD break earlier than a 10a, right? =P
22:01 SparkyProjects Remember i was a sparky for 32 years.
22:01 Sgt_Lemming yes, yes it should
22:01 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I have that many 5ft fluorescents running off my B6 fueled lighting circuit, they don't cause it to trip.
22:01 Seroster SparkyProjects, Was that prior to or after serving in the civil war?
22:02 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, mebe there, that is not the case here though
22:02 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Neither should they cause a 5A MCB to trip. However the older ones had radically different profiles.
22:02 Monkeh Seroster: If the load causes your B10 to trip, putting a B6 in front may not do anything.
22:02 SparkyProjects Breakers in general will break at about 1.2 times the rated current, a wire fuse breaks at about 1.5 times.
22:02 SparkyProjects A breaker is also quicker
22:02 Seroster Was down at the second hand store and they had an extension cord in an extension cord in an extension cord in a 3way in an extension cord in a 3way, and plugs with ground pins on wires without (illegal)
22:03 Seroster Monkeh, So, And what does the B mean? Slow?
22:03 Monkeh Seroster: B/C/D are breaker profiles, let me find the graphs.
22:03 Seroster You don't have to find the graphs, just give it to me in a nutshell =)
22:03 Monkeh Okay, brief description shamelessly c+p'd
22:04 Monkeh Type B - trips between 3 and 5 time full load current
22:04 Monkeh Type C - trips between 5 and 10 times full load current
22:04 Monkeh Type D - trips between 10 and 20 times full load current
22:04 Monkeh (this is for instant breaking, ie. C and D handle inrush current better than B)
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22:08 BotSteve TOASTY!
22:08 wannabe1987 TOAST!
22:08 Toastdude WANNABE!
22:08 wannabe1987 :D
22:09 Toastdude :D
22:10 Monkeh Seroster: I find it interesting your socket circuit is protected by a B10.
22:10 Monkeh Seroster: I can trip a B10 with half the contents of my shed, and none of it is impressively large.
22:10 Seroster Monkeh, I got 12
22:11 SparkyProjects Monkeh, what is your mains voltage ?
22:11 Seroster I think. Havent counted
22:11 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Let me check
22:11 Seroster 110
22:11 Seroster I bet
22:11 Monkeh .. No
22:11 Seroster ...
22:11 Monkeh Line Voltage: 244.4
22:11 Monkeh Line Voltage Max: 247.0
22:11 Monkeh Line Voltage Min: 243.1
22:11 Monkeh Output Voltage: 244.4
22:11 SparkyProjects He has to check ?
22:12 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I figured you wanted it specific.
22:12 SparkyProjects ah, so basically 240 :P
22:12 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Yes. :P
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22:12 Seroster Erm... Thats a bit overkill =P
22:12 Monkeh Seroster: If it were 110 I wouldn't be familiar with these breakers. :P
22:13 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Easy enough to trip a B10 with just about any mid-sized motor.
22:13 SparkyProjects well yeah, it really depends if you are trying to run a 3KW electric fire and a washing machine, or a load of small appliances
22:13 Cprossu Monkeh: 247 max is interesting
22:14 Cprossu I wonder what the freq was at the time
22:14 SparkyProjects A motor is likely to trip it with starting current, at least 2 times the flc, often with a load it can be a lot more
22:14 Monkeh Cprossu: Should be 50Hz as normal.
22:14 Monkeh Cprossu: Someone probably turned something big off.
22:14 Cprossu Monkeh: I mean there was a transient there
22:14 Cprossu as in generator overspeed
22:14 Sgt_Lemming at HSBNE we have an electric wheelchair motor operating as the motor to open our big rollerdoor
22:15 Sgt_Lemming we've blown multiple 50A relays with it because the inrush current at start is so huge
22:15 dbshortwave hI WANNABE1987
22:15 dbshortwave lol
22:15 dbshortwave oopd caps
22:15 wannabe1987 lol
22:15 Cprossu not enough to cause a load rejection, but still interesting you say it.
22:15 Cprossu *saw it
22:15 Sgt_Lemming it's only supposed to draw about 4A
22:16 wannabe1987 anyone wanna proof read something political?  i normally proof other peoples things, but i need something proofed!
22:16 Cprossu nsfw!
22:16 Monkeh Cprossu: Hitting 247 around here is fairly normal
22:16 SparkyProjects Sgt_Lemming: it either needs a counterbalance (like tgg's door), or a different motor.
22:17 Monkeh Cprossu: Goes down as low as about 238 in the day.
22:17 Cprossu fairly interesting seeing nearly a 10v spread.
22:17 Cprossu at least in US terms
22:17 Seroster Motors start at short circuit (in essence)
22:17 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, counterbalance is there SparkyProjects, the problem is more that it's 50 years old, bent as all hell and rather stuff as a result
22:17 Cprossu not sure about cross the pond.
22:17 Monkeh Cprossu: We have more leeway.
22:18 Monkeh This town could use an electrical update though.
22:18 Cprossu on our three phase stuff we don't like even seeing it +-5V
22:18 Monkeh It's all modern and underground here, but the grid connection.. well, let's just say I don't go near the fences.
22:18 Cprossu and it's nearly always 59.9 to 60.1 hz or so
22:18 SparkyProjects Monkeh, it's more challenging when the neutral feed breaks and you get imbalance on 3 phases, one phase may be 90 volts, another might be 270, another might be 150. we lost 9 motors on our site because of it, and not many of them were small
22:19 Monkeh SparkyProjects: That's fun.
22:19 Cprossu SparkyProjects: owwww. did anyone's ass get reemed over that one?
22:20 Cprossu and was it 9 all at once?
22:21 SparkyProjects Yeah, once we realised, we had to shut down the substations so the site could run on generators until the problem was fixed.
22:21 SparkyProjects After that we had to replace the burnt out motors, and it was a 200 acre site.
22:21 SparkyProjects Cprossu, i don't know what happened, it was a supply authority problem
22:21 Monkeh Hopefully the metal thief fried himself.
22:22 SparkyProjects and yes, within the time it happened and u to when we realised and changed to generators, 9 in a day
22:22 Monkeh (seriously, they all think you can pull an earth or neutral link safely. Thankfully, some of them pay for it.)
22:22 Cprossu there's 3 scrappers born every day to replace the ones that get fried =P
22:22 Cprossu or rather
22:22 Cprossu there's 3 scrappers born every day to replace each one that gets fried =P
22:23 SparkyProjects I don't think it was metal theft, could have been an overhead or an underground cable fault (our site was underground fed, but the cables went overhead outside the site)
22:23 Cheezmo I think TGG needs to booby trap the transformers outside :P
22:23 Monkeh SparkyProjects: It's quite common these days at least
22:23 Cprossu taking stream down for a moment
22:23 Cheezmo yet make small, yet visible warnings of said traps
22:23 Cprossu lol that'd be easy Cheezmo: plug em in.
22:23 SparkyProjects This was several years ago
22:24 Cheezmo I had an old boss that hired a guy before me that somehow mixed up an alternator and a distributor on a plane
22:25 dbshortwave doot doot doot
22:25 Cheezmo needless to say, on startup, a lot of expensive radios went pop
22:25 wannabe1987 noone's good with proofreading?  :'(
22:25 dbshortwave ouch
22:26 Cheezmo wannabe1987, what needs proo9freading?
22:26 tehdark45 Cheezmo, how the hell can someone be so stupid?
22:26 wannabe1987 document....
22:26 Cheezmo tehdark45, they exist
22:27 tehdark45 yeah but they look compleatly different
22:28 Cheezmo but when they're in an airplane, there's a lot less visibility
22:28 wannabe1987 Cheezmo you want to take a look?
22:28 Cheezmo is it big? lol
22:29 wannabe1987 500 words
22:29 Cheezmo not too bad
22:29 Cheezmo dcc?
22:29 wannabe1987 email or drop box...its already in dropbox :P
22:29 Cheezmo dropbox?
22:31 wannabe1987 https://www.dropbox.com
22:31 BotSteve Title: Dropbox - Simplify your life
22:32 Cheezmo sure lol, just PM me the details
22:32 SparkyProjects http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15752918
22:32 BotSteve Title: BBC News - Toast sandwich is UK's 'cheapest meal'
22:32 wannabe1987 actually, i'd rather email if thats ok w/ you....
22:32 Seroster Shower time
22:32 wannabe1987 ewww nekkid Seroster!
22:33 Cheezmo SparkyProjects: ...wut?
22:33 Seroster Today I'll think about... wannabe1987... while shampooing my assbeard.
22:33 Cheezmo lol
22:33 wannabe1987 ok
22:34 Cprossu time to do something unfair to the streaming pc
22:35 Cprossu 60 FPS, 2.5mb/s up video, , 225kb up audio
22:35 zimm_swe yay!
22:36 Cprossu just trying to max shit out to fuck with it
22:36 tlockley what for?
22:36 Cprossu stress test on some components of our network
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22:37 tlockley ah
22:37 Cprossu so far it doesn't want to push more than 1330 kb/s up
22:37 tlockley up to internet or up to edge router?
22:42 * wannabe1987 starts backing up her computer....
22:43 Cprossu lol we're now using 2700 kb/s upload from the stream computer
22:43 Cprossu *messes with 2 more settings
22:43 tlockley nice
22:44 Sgt_Lemming http://vimeo.com/29999445 <--- 55 minutes long but well worth watching, lots of nostalgia moments
22:44 BotSteve Title: Skinemax on Vimeo
22:46 Sgt_Lemming haven't seen anything in it that's NSFW
22:49 Sgt_Lemming I question anyone watching a 55 minute long video at work though :-P
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22:51 * wannabe1987 found lots of classical music on her external :D happy kelly!
22:52 wannabe1987 also found christmas music....the 25th i can start listening to it :D
22:52 * egrsteve|away is tempted to break out the TSO soon
22:52 Sgt_Lemming tSO?
22:52 wannabe1987 trans siberian orchestra
22:52 wannabe1987 :D
22:52 Sgt_Lemming kk
22:52 wannabe1987 i've got some....need more :D
22:53 Sgt_Lemming sift ENZSO or Ben folds and WASO
22:54 SparkyProjects Sgt_Lemming: ive done more than that at work before, main one was while on duty during the Y2K bug scare, was at work at 9pm, did a walk round, then settled dow to watch TV and browse the net, another walk round at 11:30. then wait till after midnight where we did another walk round, all while being paid.
22:54 * Sgt_Lemming nods
22:54 Sgt_Lemming I've done similar dude
22:54 Sgt_Lemming 19 hours of sitting in a data centre just in case
22:55 SparkyProjects Apart from that, yes i could have watched a long vid, as long as i completed the work.
22:55 Sgt_Lemming yes, but you've got to admit that's the exception to the rule :-P
22:55 SparkyProjects And being on call often meant i had to wait on site so i could check the fault again later
22:56 Cprossu hrmmm
22:56 Cprossu egrsteve|away what's your next lab day?
22:57 Cprossu btw I got audio quality maxed right now on the stream (rofl)
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23:00 zimm_swe nice
23:01 Cprossu it's surprising how well that little AMD E-350 system works for the stream computer
23:01 Sgt_Lemming heh
23:01 Sgt_Lemming even a cheap processor today shits all over an expensive one from 5 years ago
23:02 Cprossu yeah it is
23:03 Cprossu or how a processor/graphics system taking 15-20 watts of power can shit all over a combination dragging no less than 190 watts and producing like 112 watts of heat
23:03 dbshortwave LOTS of repeater activity
23:03 Cprossu tonsofpcs you around?
23:04 Sgt_Lemming err Cprossu, a system pulling 190w will put our probably 185 watt heat, very little actual "work" takes place in a computer
23:04 Cprossu true.
23:04 Cprossu I mean 112watts from just the cpu
23:04 Monkeh I just count anything going in as coming out as heat. Easier.
23:04 Sgt_Lemming yeah
23:04 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, it's pretty close, but a little bit does go into making fans/drives spin
23:04 Cprossu the other 70 can come from the chipset, the psu, the VRM's, and the GPU
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23:05 wannabe1987 hi tesla4d
23:05 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yeah but why bother working that out? Assume the worst. :)
23:05 Sgt_Lemming my GPU pulls more power than everything else in the system combined
23:05 Cprossu are you sure about that?
23:05 Sgt_Lemming yes
23:05 Sgt_Lemming very sure
23:05 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yep, same here. GTX280's a hungry beast.
23:05 * wannabe1987 has 2,272 items in music o.O (and thats the stuff i listen to vs the stuff i don't listen to.....)
23:05 Sgt_Lemming GTX570 here
23:05 Cprossu lol.
23:05 tesla4d Hello, wannabe1987
23:05 Sgt_Lemming well, under load I mean
23:05 Cprossu fair enough you two
23:05 Sgt_Lemming idle is a bit less of course :-P
23:06 Monkeh Cprossu: Full load overclocked GPU? Yeah, it pulls more than my CPU and HDDs combined, and that's 90% of the remaining power draw of this box..
23:06 Cprossu I am running a radeon 6870, it doesn't pull anywhere near the wattage your connector melters pull
23:06 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, but we get working drivers.
23:06 Cprossu never had a problem thus far
23:06 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, it wouldn't be all that far off
23:06 Sgt_Lemming it has two power connectors correct?
23:06 Cprossu 6870= efficient design of the 5870
23:07 Cprossu it's die went through a redesign for efficiency
23:07 Sgt_Lemming PCIe slot = 75w of power, PCIe gfx power connector = 150w per connector
23:08 Sgt_Lemming and yes I know they massively overspec to avoid voltage transients, but it's still going to be the better part of 250w under full load Cprossu
23:08 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: 75W for the 6-pin connectors.
23:08 Cprossu yeah but it doesn't use any more than ~130 watts of power at full load.
23:08 dbshortwave lol Wannabe1987, is that all?
23:08 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: They've more or less abandoned the idiocy of pulling 150W through the 8-pin ones.
23:09 Cprossu what's kinda nice is at idle it sits around 12-15watts
23:09 Sgt_Lemming sorry, your right monkeh, it's 150w for the two connectors
23:09 Monkeh Those 8 pin ones are daft.
23:10 wannabe1987 llol yes.  and i have a 4gb iPod as well :P  but most of thats on there...but i'll have to clear it out to put christmas music on it....
23:10 Cheezmo ewww, chrstmas music
23:10 Sgt_Lemming my psu has them, the amusing thing is you'd be nuts to try and fit a card that uses them in my case
23:10 dbshortwave 8947 files
23:10 Cprossu my psu has I think 3 12V rails
23:10 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Trouble with them is that they always use cheap pins.
23:11 Cprossu having multiple rails is overated.
23:11 Cheezmo I have over 18,000 files in WinAmp and there's a lot I haven't added in there :P
23:11 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/ComputerStuff#5614561874066849634 <--- my pc, for reference that's a full size ATX psu on the right
23:11 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: 4A each on the cheap oens is rarely wise.
23:11 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming Dixon - Computer Stuff
23:11 Sgt_Lemming left even
23:11 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yeah, seen it :)
23:11 Sgt_Lemming err, 75w at 12v is 6A
23:11 Cprossu you curl your sata cables?
23:11 Sgt_Lemming yes
23:11 Sgt_Lemming because it makes them easier to manage
23:11 Cprossu granted you don't have much room in that case
23:11 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: 150/3/12 = 4.16A
23:12 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: The cheap pins make such a poor contact that they have issues with that. The 6-pin ones are only 2A per pin.
23:13 Seroster BatSteve-Away, I want to talk to you
23:14 Cprossu they shoulda just used a variant of the old 4 pin molex configured with more 12v pins and keyed differently.
23:14 Cprossu those are nice and beefy.
23:14 wannabe1987 its batty's birthday, idk if he'll be online :P
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23:16 Cprossu hahhahahaah
23:16 Monkeh Cprossu: They're also dangerously hard to remove sometimes. ;)
23:16 Cprossu I didn't realize they recorded a 'technical difficulties' track for the gg radio station
23:16 wannabe1987 hi Hackbat
23:17 Cprossu Monkeh: We need to give pc builders a death grip by the time they are experienced
23:17 Cprossu I know I have one.
23:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Frankly there are far superior connectors available but they all want to bend over and kiss Molex's special protrusion. ;)
23:18 * wannabe1987 is being googl-ized
23:19 Cprossu rofl.
23:19 Seroster wannabe1987, if its his birthday hell sure be online.
23:19 wannabe1987 lol ok
23:19 Cprossu you know what we should do one day Monkeh?
23:20 Monkeh Cprossu: ?
23:20 Cprossu completely go through a desktop computer and replace EVERY power connector with Anderson Powerpole connectors
23:20 Cheezmo Badgers?
23:20 Cheezmo Badgers!?
23:20 Cprossu it would be pretty badass
23:21 Cheezmo We don't need no stinking badgers!
23:22 Monkeh Cprossu: eeeeeevil.
23:22 Cprossu we could use different sizes for differing voltages
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23:23 wannabe1987 leeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
23:24 Cprossu if they weren't such a bitch to source I Would have suggested delphi connectors
23:24 masterofmonks Ah, there is lwq1996
23:24 lwq1996 hi...what do you need mom?
23:24 masterofmonks Take out the trash.
23:25 Cprossu you know, Monkeh, for the times that your computer's connectors need to be weatherproof.
23:25 * Cheezmo needs to watch more Bill & Ted
23:25 Cprossu weatherpak!
23:25 lwq1996 eh...ok make me an op and i will
23:25 Monkeh Cprossu: :D
23:25 wannabe1987 o.o
23:25 lwq1996 damn you
23:25 lwq1996 then screw you then...it will sit there till you got off your lazy ass and do it :P
23:26 wannabe1987 scary.  seroster wants to be my friend on fb :P
23:26 Seroster I eat kittens.
23:26 wannabe1987 i know
23:26 wannabe1987 :3
23:27 lwq1996 lol
23:27 masterofmonks He lies, the only thing he eats is *** **** ******* *****
23:27 Seroster "You don't even like unicorns!" "Yes I do! They are DELICIOUS!"
23:27 Seroster - Bloon man
23:27 masterofmonks lwq1996: http://www.sciplus.com/
23:27 BotSteve Title: American Science & Surplus : Items Just Off the Truck
23:28 masterofmonks While you look at that, brb'
23:37 dbshortwave o.o
23:39 Sgt_Lemming masterofmonks, I have not had a good experience dealing with those guys
23:40 wannabe1987 no?
23:40 Sgt_Lemming took me three weeks to get a response from them in the first place, then they wanted to insist on me paying by international bank transfer with $22 worth of processing fees on top of it
23:40 wannabe1987 o.O
23:41 Sgt_Lemming then I arranged to get the bits shipped to a friend in the u.s. instead and pay by credit card, 5 weeks later and the parts hadn't arrived, no response to multiple emails and basically got brushed off on the phone. ended up reversing the charges on my card
23:42 wannabe1987 ...
23:44 Isopropyl|Media hmm
23:44 Isopropyl|Media how to pay for the doctors without health insurance...
23:45 exor674 Sgt_Lemming: probably because the items probably *fell off* a truck
23:45 Sgt_Lemming exor674, yeah
23:45 Sgt_Lemming really disappointed too as the ones they had were significantly cheaper than anywhere else
23:45 Sgt_Lemming was some planetary gear systems from electric bikes that I wanted for a combat robot.
23:46 Isopropyl|Media ooh
23:46 Sgt_Lemming yeah
23:46 Sgt_Lemming I was kinda peeved
23:47 Monkeh Isopropyl|Media: Move to a country with a national health service.
23:47 Isopropyl|Media uggh this sucks. whatevers wrong with me is now giving me tachycardia
23:47 Cprossu as in an irregular heartbeat?
23:48 Isopropyl|Media my stomach grumbles and i feel slightly sore
23:48 Isopropyl|Media no a heartbeat that won't drop below 85
23:48 Isopropyl|Media and thats when i feel good
23:48 Cprossu o_O well that's not good
23:48 Isopropyl|Media i know
23:49 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, it's not that bad
23:49 Isopropyl|Media I was fine until saturday
23:49 wannabe1987 Isopropyl|Media: theres a clinic in GR that helps out people...idk if thats where you are hto
23:49 Sgt_Lemming 60 - 100 is an ok heartbeat when at rest
23:49 Cprossu 85 is still in the normal~ish~ place
23:49 Isopropyl|Media 85 is joggers rest
23:49 Sgt_Lemming where as when I get heart issues atm, my heart is hitting 140bpm at rest
23:49 Isopropyl|Media whoa
23:49 wannabe1987 mhm THATS bad
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23:50 Cprossu my pulse generally sits @ 65 iirc
23:50 Sgt_Lemming you don't say wannabe1987 :-P
23:50 Isopropyl|Media i assume it messes with you cognitively
23:50 Sgt_Lemming mines normally 60bpm when I am at rest
23:50 Sgt_Lemming quite healthy normally
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23:50 wannabe1987 i know, my medical training is handy :P
23:50 wannabe1987 no, seriously, i want to do EMT tho ....
23:50 Isopropyl|Media my norma is 65-70
23:51 Isopropyl|Media maybe i ate something bad, maybe its food poisoning, or maybe i'm gonna die... no idea
23:52 Sgt_Lemming if your normal is 65 - 70, 85 is nothing
23:52 Isopropyl|Media it is when you're not sick often
23:52 Sgt_Lemming could even be psychosomatic
23:52 Cprossu 72 last 60 seconds
23:52 Cprossu woo
23:52 Cprossu that was fun
23:52 Isopropyl|Media well its like that or higher when i sleep
23:52 Cprossu never took my own pulse before without machinery
23:52 Isopropyl|Media lol
23:53 Cprossu (thumb holding ear technique) lol
23:53 Isopropyl|Media i do the thumb to wrist
23:53 Isopropyl|Media or use a machine
23:54 Cprossu I can't feel shit doing thumb on wrist
23:54 Sgt_Lemming that's the radial pulse iirc
23:57 Seroster Goodnight folks
23:57 Sgt_Lemming night
23:57 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: Strange, I have only heard good things about them personally.

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