Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-17

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Time Nick Message
00:04 dbshortwave 15 acres of broken glass
00:04 dbshortwave mmmm lots of bass
00:04 Sgt_Lemming ...?
00:06 dbshortwave http://youtu.be/fBFaEpb45FA
00:06 BotSteve Title: Portal 2 Soundtrack - 15 Acres of Broken Glass - YouTube
00:06 dbshortwave lets just say.... im makeing my LCD on the wall rattle
00:06 dbshortwave ;D
00:10 TheGeek1024 hi all
00:10 HeavyMetal hi all
00:11 dbshortwave hello
00:14 Sgt_Lemming ah, eucalyptus impregnated tissues, how I love thee
00:16 masterofmonks I personally prefer something like a wypall.
00:17 masterofmonks I tend to blow right through more.. tissue like things.
00:18 Sgt_Lemming heh
00:19 Sgt_Lemming these ones are pretty thick, 3ply according to the box
00:19 Sgt_Lemming but having the eucalyptus in them just means that it clears your nose a bit
00:19 masterofmonks I take a standard paper towel and fold it in half twice and still end up with nastiness on my hands.
00:20 wannabe1987 o.o
00:23 * dbshortwave puts a pillow case over wannabe1987
00:23 * dbshortwave walks away
00:23 wannabe1987 ah shit, not again
00:23 * Toastdude saves wannabe
00:24 * Isopropyl|Media cuts eyeholes in pillowcase
00:24 * wannabe1987 wants her computer to work damnit!
00:24 Isopropyl|Media oooh scary ghost
00:24 wannabe1987 boo
00:24 Isopropyl|Media *scream*
00:24 * Toastdude hits dbshortwave over the head with a frying pan and runs off with wannabe to safety
00:24 Toastdude :P
00:24 wannabe1987 thanks toast, but don't hurt the marshmallow!
00:24 lwq1996 hey masterofmonks you may get a laugh at this...go to the bottom product and look at the name http://www.sciplus.com/category.cfm/subsection/14
00:24 BotSteve Title: American Science & Surplus : Switches
00:25 Toastdude lol
00:25 dbshortwave heh
00:25 dbshortwave brb
00:25 wannabe1987 ok
00:25 * wannabe1987 slams door on dbshortwave as he walks away
00:25 Isopropyl|Media atleast switch makers are having fun
00:26 lwq1996 having fun?
00:26 masterofmonks lwq1996: look around.
00:27 lwq1996 ?
00:27 Toastdude Oh, by the way....
00:27 Toastdude Hi masterofmonks
00:27 Sgt_Lemming dbshortwave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmbfUqQLV7M
00:27 masterofmonks Morning Toastdude
00:27 BotSteve Title: Infected Mushroom - small moves - YouTube
00:28 dbshortwave oh nice
00:28 Cheezmo lol, traffic is royally screwed here today... it snowed and there's accidents all over
00:29 Sgt_Lemming a cookie if you can name the movie the samples are taken from in that track :-P
00:29 Isopropyl|Media I want this as a ring tone http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​x3xuk03KFqY&feature=related
00:29 BotSteve Title: Family Guy Peter hehe - YouTube
00:29 Sgt_Lemming Isopropyl|Media, not hard to do
00:30 Sgt_Lemming use the audio loopback function in windows to record it
00:30 Sgt_Lemming recording industries enemy no1 that function :-P
00:30 Isopropyl|Media yeah but i have a dumbphone
00:30 Sgt_Lemming ah, sucks to be you then :-P
00:30 dbshortwave http://www.phonezoo.com/ringtone/​46803543/peter-griffin-axel-f.htm
00:30 BotSteve Title: Peter_Griffin_-_Axel_F ringtone - download this ringtone for free
00:30 Isopropyl|Media it says it supports mp3's
00:31 BatSteve sup
00:31 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
00:31 BotSteve At 16 Nov 16:54Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell BatSteve HAPPY BIRTHDAY
00:31 BotSteve At 16 Nov 23:21Z, Seroster asked me to tell BatSteve HAPPY FUCKEN BIRTHDAY YOU BLEEPETY BLEEPING BLEEP! =)
00:31 Sgt_Lemming mine goes "oh, an audio file, that's cool, it's your ringtone now"
00:31 BatSteve (:
00:31 dbshortwave Happy Birthday BatSteve
00:31 BatSteve thanks wannabe1987!
00:31 BatSteve thanks dbshortwave!
00:31 wannabe1987 you're welcome :D
00:31 dbshortwave y/w
00:31 Sgt_Lemming happy birthday BatSteve
00:31 Sgt_Lemming .cake BatSteve
00:31 BotSteve Here you go, BatSteve, I baked you a peaches and cream cake!
00:31 BatSteve :D
00:32 BatSteve Yeay cake!
00:32 Isopropyl|Media lol
00:32 Toastdude But the cake is a lie......
00:32 BatSteve Not today!
00:32 Toastdude BatSteve!
00:32 wannabe1987 .cake BatSteve
00:32 BotSteve Here you go, BatSteve, I baked you a butterscotch walnut cake!
00:32 Toastdude :D
00:32 BatSteve Today the cake is the truth!
00:32 wannabe1987 how old are you BatSteve?
00:32 Toastdude .cake BatSteve
00:32 BotSteve Here you go, BatSteve, I baked you a yellow with chocolate buttercream cake!
00:32 Toastdude ..
00:32 BatSteve ...I'm ok with that!
00:33 dbshortwave .pie BatSteve
00:33 BotSteve Here you go, BatSteve, I made you a strawberry pie!
00:33 dbshortwave lol
00:33 dbshortwave fuck cake
00:33 dbshortwave pie is better
00:33 Sgt_Lemming dbshortwave, the bass in that track I linked is making something on my shelves resonate :-P
00:34 Sgt_Lemming oh speaking of which, any idea on what the samples are from?
00:34 dbshortwave it was makeing alot of things here in this house resonate ;D
00:36 wannabe1987 ..................
00:36 * Cheezmo_Skyrim caves
00:36 Sgt_Lemming that whole album/single contains samples from one movie :-D
00:36 dbshortwave sweet
00:37 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". |  There are no automatic doors, just polite ninjas.
00:37 Sgt_Lemming want another clue dbshortwave?
00:37 wannabe1987 Cheezmo_Skyrim no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
00:38 Isopropyl|Media aww weathercam
00:39 Sgt_Lemming dbshortwave, given up or not even trying?
00:39 wannabe1987 aka darkcam?
00:39 Isopropyl|Media the weathercam is much brighter in the shop
00:40 dbshortwave WOW
00:40 Sgt_Lemming ...?
00:40 dbshortwave still listening
00:40 dbshortwave bounceing to diff songs
00:40 dbshortwave damn they are good
00:40 Sgt_Lemming infected mushroom? you've never heard them before?
00:40 dbshortwave no
00:41 dbshortwave ever hear of ugress?
00:42 Sgt_Lemming yeah
00:42 Cheezmo_Skyrim Ever hear from Trash 80?
00:42 Cheezmo_Skyrim :P
00:42 dbshortwave thatone ive missed
00:42 dbshortwave http://www.songkick.com/concerts/973388​8-infected-mushroom-at-westcott-theater
00:42 BotSteve Title: Infected Mushroom - Syracuse - Westcott Theater - Concert Tickets - 17 November 2011 | Songkick
00:43 Cheezmo_Skyrim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Lb9Fy2H96k
00:43 BotSteve Title: Trash80 - Missing You (HQ) - YouTube
00:43 dbshortwave if i had the money i'd go to check em out
00:44 Cheezmo_Skyrim can't say I'm a huge fan of the infected mushroom
00:45 Sgt_Lemming each to their own Cheezmo_Skyrim
00:45 Cheezmo_Skyrim yup
00:46 Sgt_Lemming dbshortwave, other ones you should check out "Shpongle" and "Juno Reactor"
00:50 wannabe1987 anyone like sigur ros?
00:52 astro73|alice joined #thegeekgroup
00:53 Isopropyl|Media http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qs​WFFuYZYI&feature=BFa&list=​PLD5AB723550C669BA&lf=mh_lolz
00:53 BotSteve Title: Rymdreglage - 8-bit trip - YouTube
00:53 zombie1987 joined #thegeekgroup
00:55 zombie1987 hi
00:55 lwq1996 lol
00:55 * egrsteve|away shoots with nerf gun
00:55 lwq1996 lol
00:56 Toastdude Hi egrsteve|away
00:56 astro73|alice yeah! I have cool alice!
00:56 lwq1996 steve you should accept my fb request on fb ;)
00:56 zombie1987 ...hi jamie :D
00:57 astro73|alice hi
00:57 zombie1987 still procrastinating?
00:57 astro73|alice oh no. i did a bunch of reading
00:57 lwq1996 lol
00:57 zombie1987 ok good
00:58 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: So I'm playing Skyrim.
00:58 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: I just cut off a mages head.
00:58 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: She did not die from it.
00:58 astro73|alice But i got it fixed, and I now have tab complete
00:58 Cheezmo_Skyrim lolwut?
00:58 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: Boss. The instant-kill attack.. did not.
00:58 Cheezmo_Skyrim yeah, there's a few fixed they need to make
00:58 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: I just had to kill a headless mage.
00:58 Cheezmo_Skyrim fixes*
00:59 Cheezmo_Skyrim :D
00:59 Monkeh It was funny.
00:59 eadthem joined #thegeekgroup
00:59 zombie1987 hi eadthem
00:59 eadthem hey
01:00 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
01:00 dbshortwave that was awesome ^.^
01:01 zombie1987 hi injektion
01:01 injektion Hai2u
01:02 zombie1987 hows the hand?
01:03 * Isopropyl|Media needs a good place to download .xm tracks
01:04 zombie1987 demonoid.me?
01:04 Toastdude Wasn't the Seroster with the messed up hand?
01:04 zombie1987 yes, but injection injured his hand at work today
01:05 Toastdude D:
01:05 Isopropyl|Media zombie that trackers
01:05 Toastdude What happened injektion?
01:05 Isopropyl|Media thats*
01:05 Isopropyl|Media xm is eXtended Modules
01:05 zombie1987 i don't know
01:06 zombie1987 i'm just a zombie, theres nothing in my head
01:06 injektion Toastdude, I slipped and my hand hit the case erector
01:06 Toastdude Ouch....
01:07 Toastdude How is it noe?
01:07 Toastdude *now
01:07 injektion Doesn't hurt now
01:07 injektion It was red all day long
01:07 Toastdude Okay, good. How messed up is it?
01:08 injektion Don't know yet
01:09 Toastdude Okay. Tells us when you find out
01:09 zombie1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2011/​11/this-is-official-blog-entry-for.html
01:09 BotSteve Title: Phood in your face: Scholarship Entry
01:12 yNos egrsteve|away: you around?
01:12 BotSteve yNos: I have the following messages for you:
01:12 BotSteve At 16 Nov 18:31Z, Cprossu asked me to tell yNos HELP ME! I am eyeing a 'fundamentals of data processing' textbook and a COBAL w/ examples book!
01:13 Sgt_Lemming damn it
01:13 Sgt_Lemming someone nearby is cooking bacon
01:13 Sgt_Lemming and it smells really REALLY good >_<
01:13 Toastdude Hi yNos!
01:13 yNos hiya toast
01:13 Toastdude How are you?
01:13 Sgt_Lemming lo yNos
01:16 zombie1987 yNos!  you live!
01:16 yNos kinda
01:16 zombie1987 uh oh
01:16 zombie1987 at least you didn't get turned into a zombie!
01:16 yNos i am fine.. cprossu and i are playing with the network and we found out we are getting the hell shaped out of us..
01:17 zombie1987 awwww
01:17 Sgt_Lemming oh, fun
01:17 yNos yeah
01:17 * zombie1987 noms on Zombietoast
01:17 * Zombietoast feeds on what's left of zombie1987's brains
01:17 zombie1987 BRAINS!  there were none, fyi
01:18 yNos twas just a light snack?
01:18 Zombietoast That's why I said "what's left" :P
01:18 zombie1987 mmmm cerebellum!
01:18 Zombietoast Yum, cerebral cortex!
01:18 zombie1987 hippocampus!
01:19 Zombietoast Watermelon!
01:19 * zombie1987 listens to the extended soundtrack for REPO! genetic opera
01:19 zombie1987 he stands at 6'6"head and shoulders, hope he never comes knocking at your door
01:20 Zombietoast Slender Man!
01:20 zombie1987 no, REPO man!
01:20 Zombietoast NO, Slender Man!! I know, I saw him.
01:21 Zombietoast He goes to our school.
01:21 Sgt_Lemming zombie1987, seen the movie?
01:21 zombie1987 ...
01:21 zombie1987 yes
01:21 Zombietoast I'm friends with him on FB :P
01:21 zombie1987 have acquired it too
01:21 Sgt_Lemming lol
01:21 zombie1987 my friend claims to have seen the *real* slenderman
01:21 Zombietoast Lol
01:21 Zombietoast I've seen Slender Women....
01:22 zombie1987 after he saw slenderman he went crazy....so who knows
01:22 Zombietoast She's in our Algebra I book
01:22 SparkyProjects http://northstudio360.yb.nl/ni​mmobay/embed/YBPlayerLite.swf?
01:22 SparkyProjects That's cool
01:26 Ponko joined #thegeekgroup
01:27 Zombietoast PONKY!
01:28 Ponko TOASTY
01:28 zombie1987 PONKO
01:28 Zombietoast ZOMBIE
01:29 zombie1987 ZOMBIE
01:29 Sgt_Lemming * Ponko is now known as NecroPonk <--- I read that as "NecroPink" at first
01:30 zombie1987 i read necropUnk
01:30 NecroPonk ,
01:30 * NecroPonk is confused lol
01:31 Zombietoast Lol
01:31 Zombietoast Hello NecroPonk
01:33 zombie1987 aka i misread what your nick is ponko
01:34 Sgt_Lemming NecroPoink
01:34 NecroPonk ...
01:35 zombie1987 sorry dear :(
01:36 NecroPonk lol its cool
01:36 Zombietoast Someone say toast
01:36 NecroPonk Dan Forden did
01:36 Zombietoast ....
01:38 Sgt_Lemming http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/slender-man
01:38 BotSteve Title: Slender Man | Know Your Meme
01:39 Zombietoast Memebase isn't working.....
01:39 zombie1987 lol
01:39 deadbrainwalking XD
01:40 Cheezmo_Skyrim monkeh: those bodies sure know how to fly after a good sneak shot in the back of the head with an arrow, eh? :D
01:40 zombie1987 how do brains walk?
01:40 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: :D
01:40 deadbrainwalking they still attached to the skull
01:40 * zombie1987 pokes NecroPonk
01:43 Monkeh yNos: I take it you've got no option except Comcrap over there?
01:44 Sgt_Lemming yNos, is it a residential or business grade connection?
01:44 * NecroPonk pokes zombie1987
01:45 * egrsteve|away prepares noodle canon to deal with zombies
01:46 yNos it is a "Business Class" connection
01:46 yNos small subnet and all
01:46 Sgt_Lemming you guys should be able to sue them (at least that is the case here) for not providing the agreed to service
01:46 * Zombietoast pokes NecroPonk and zombie1987
01:46 * NecroPonk eats Zombietoast
01:47 NecroPonk BatSteve i'm still laughing at that kick last night
01:47 * egrsteve|away fires noodle canon, zombi problem fixed
01:48 BatSteve (:
01:48 NecroPonk KNIFE IN YOUR BACK HAHAHA
01:48 zombie1987 ...
01:49 Zombietoast Aw......
01:49 * zombie1987 has a backache now
01:49 NecroPonk lol kelly we were messing around on tgg:sports and he kicked me then i did back to him
01:50 Zombietoast Nice going, necro
01:50 NecroPonk :P
01:50 Zombietoast :P
01:50 * NecroPonk wonders why everyone including him is dead
01:50 * Zombietoast starts taking NecroPonk's brains and passing some out to zombie1987
01:51 * NecroPonk slaps zombietoast and wags finger at him
01:52 zombie1987 ic
01:52 * Zombietoast bites NecroPonk's finger
01:52 * NecroPonk grows new one
01:52 zombie1987 o fuck
01:52 zombie1987 he grows new ones
01:53 Zombietoast D:
01:53 * Zombietoast eats NecroPonk
01:53 zombie1987 ITS SUPPOSED TO SNOW TOMORROW AHHHHHHHHH
01:53 * NecroPonk bursts out of zombietoasts
01:53 Zombietoast YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY!!!!!!!!!
01:53 zombie1987 and i'm at school from 8:30a to 10p
01:53 zombie1987 o.O
01:54 yNos egrsteve|away: stil here?
01:56 * NecroPonk revives self
01:56 zombie1987 http://mjcdn.motherjones.com/​preset_16/unemployment_3.jpg
01:57 zombie1987 http://thebsreport.files.wordpress.com/2009/​08/unemployment-ireland.gif?w=400&amp;h=292
01:59 Cprossu always a good question
02:00 * Ponko tries to revive zombie1987 & Zombietoast
02:01 zombie1987 sorry, zombie1987 is the nick for this computer....
02:01 * Zombietoast wakes up
02:01 * Zombietoast dies again
02:01 * zombie1987 noms Zombietoast
02:01 * Zombietoast noms zombie1987
02:02 Zombietoast *om nom nom nom*
02:02 zombie1987 :shrug:  happens
02:02 Zombietoast Haha :P
02:03 zombie1987 ...
02:03 zombie1987 .
02:03 Zombietoast .
02:03 Zombietoast ..
02:03 Zombietoast ....
02:03 Zombietoast ........
02:03 Zombietoast Hi
02:04 zombie1987 *whisper* its growing
02:04 Zombietoast Exponentially!
02:04 Ponko glad this isn't real life lol
02:04 Ponko O_O
02:04 zombie1987 thats not what she said!
02:04 zombie1987 why do tootsie rolls look like poo
02:05 Sgt_Lemming brb
02:05 zombie1987 my greatest face!
02:05 Zombietoast Lol, because they taste so good, zombie1987
02:05 Zombietoast :P
02:05 zombie1987 ................
02:05 zombie1987 but poo doesn't taste good!
02:05 zombie1987 i assume
02:06 Zombietoast Have you ever tried it?
02:06 Zombietoast :P
02:06 zombie1987 no
02:06 zombie1987 thats why i assume
02:06 Zombietoast Makes great fuel for fire and plants, why not us? :P
02:06 Ponko wtf is going on
02:07 Zombietoast Ponko: We're talking about poop.
02:07 Ponko i see this
02:07 Ponko and Seroster isn't even here
02:07 Zombietoast Lol
02:08 * Toastdude has been revived
02:08 CaptainBoden joined #thegeekgroup
02:08 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
02:08 * zombie1987 shapes up now
02:08 zombie1987 hi boden
02:08 Sgt_Lemming joined #thegeekgroup
02:08 Toastdude :D Welcome CaptainBoden!
02:08 CaptainBoden Good evening gentlemen
02:09 Ponko BatSteve salute
02:09 Toastdude How are you today?
02:09 CaptainBoden I was told you guys would like to talk?
02:09 CaptainBoden I'm groovy, sore in fun places.
02:09 yNos Hiya
02:09 zombie1987 :blink blink:
02:09 Toastdude I said we'd probably like it..
02:09 Ponko funny i said that after paintball
02:09 Ponko whatever you do WEAR A CUP
02:10 Sgt_Lemming lol
02:10 Cprossu interesting to see you here CaptainBoden! I lost track of how many thousands of hours since you last logged in here
02:10 BatSteve it was in the 3's
02:10 yNos CaptainBoden: So cprossu and i have been testing and it looks like we are getting bandwidht shaped after a few 60 seconds of upload hogging.
02:10 Cprossu yeah it's no dice.
02:10 CaptainBoden very cool
02:10 yNos kinda sucks
02:11 Ponko it's interesting to see and hear the human male voice rise 2 semitones
02:11 yNos cant turn up the res on the video stream w/o causing shaping slwodowns.
02:11 Cprossu yeah that's for sure
02:11 CaptainBoden The cameras are only sd, it's not a big deal
02:11 Cprossu still anything else uploading upsets the balance
02:11 deadbrainwalking we have a captain!
02:11 CaptainBoden though we should EASILY have enough bandwidth for that
02:12 Cprossu eg even a youtube upload
02:12 Ponko take everything as it comes one step at a time
02:12 yNos i i called US Signal and it looks like they have some fiber in the area.. just not sure where in our area.. they are going to email me back with more info, pricing and so-on.
02:12 CaptainBoden I'm rendering a 40min video for today's episode now.
02:12 yNos damn
02:12 Cprossu CaptainBoden: we are around 7mbit/sec for 2 minutes
02:12 Cprossu then 2mb/sec after that
02:12 CaptainBoden wtf
02:12 yNos with 200ms ping times.
02:12 Toastdude Yay, 40min Captain's Blog!
02:12 Cprossu yeah that's what we're saying
02:12 yNos from 50ms to 200ms
02:12 yNos BAM
02:12 yNos suck
02:13 CaptainBoden ynos, call Chris Green and work with him, he may be able to help on that.
02:13 Cprossu we've worked out that the first comcast hop (a cisco router running IOS 12.1) is doing the shaping
02:13 Toastdude May I PM you CaptainBoden?
02:13 CaptainBoden I've put you in touch with Chris before if I remember correctly.
02:13 CaptainBoden You may, but I may ignore it.
02:13 * Ponko has just seen Alice Cooper on a London Transport bicycle....
02:14 yNos yup, we have talked
02:14 CaptainBoden talk to him again, he can help.
02:14 yNos he seemed more line engineer than network engineer.
02:14 yNos not sure what he could do, but i will ask
02:14 CaptainBoden We should be getting incredible treatement from Comcast, he can raise some flags and get us help.
02:14 * Cprossu suggests we need a mole deep within the comcast noc
02:15 CaptainBoden He knows the mole, or how to get to the brass.
02:15 CaptainBoden If we can't get the tech to help, we'll get the VP. I can go either way.
02:15 Cprossu screwed up thing is how they pass off the upload shaping as business
02:16 CaptainBoden Never pick a fight with a guy who buys ink by the barrel. ;) we'll get the speeds we pay for.
02:16 Cprossu I've been trying to flag down a few other 'high visibility' comcast stream users who also use the business comcast service for advice too
02:17 CaptainBoden ok guys, anything else I need to know? You're into my personal time now.
02:17 Ponko remind me not to mess with that guy...
02:18 yNos you logged in here..
02:18 masterofmonks .ty in the year 2525
02:18 masterofmonks .yt in the year 2525
02:18 CaptainBoden well yeah, I wanted to see if you guys needed anything.
02:18 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic
02:18 yNos and this is why it has been 3+kilohours since his last login ;)
02:18 Toastdude I'm sorry to take you from your day, Captain... I just thought people would like to hear from you...
02:18 Cprossu actually I am still in shock.
02:19 CaptainBoden I appreciate it. It's nice to hop in and help. But it's 2100hrs here and I've been working since 0800. I've done my community service for the day, it's time to goand relax with a beautiful woman.
02:19 yNos nice to see you in here though
02:19 Cprossu anyway thanks for coming down(!?) here, and good luck with all the other horrors that will make up your next day CaptainBoden.
02:19 CaptainBoden Thanks ;)
02:19 CaptainBoden Gnite kids
02:19 yNos beautiful woman?
02:19 yNos omni!?!?
02:19 CaptainBoden and thank you, all of you, for being a part of this insanity. I do appreciate all that you guys do to make a difference.
02:19 Toastdude 'Night CaptainBoden
02:19 * Cprossu can't wait to see the new stomper gap though once it's completed
02:19 zombie1987 night
02:20 yNos g'nite
02:20 yNos i will likely be there at the ACOD again tomorrow
02:20 Cprossu c yah lates. *tries to think of anything else that would be considered important*
02:21 Ponko1 joined #thegeekgroup
02:21 yNos .ud ACOD
02:21 BotSteve yNos: http://www.urbandictionary​.com/define.php?term=ACOD
02:21 Ponko1 o_O
02:22 Cprossu important time.
02:22 Ponko blimey
02:22 NeWtoz now for me to start my work day
02:22 * NeWtoz gets ready for work
02:23 BatSteve zombie1987: can you lift 60 pounds while climbing a ladder?
02:23 * Cprossu checks cryptome for new fukushima pictures
02:23 zombie1987 no.......
02:23 BatSteve Ok
02:23 zombie1987 why?
02:23 BatSteve Grand Rapids airport is hiring, but you have to be able to lift 60 pounds on a ladder.
02:23 zombie1987 inner ear issues cause balance issues
02:23 Ponko BatSteve yes
02:23 Ponko i can though lol
02:23 Ponko depends on how
02:24 Toastdude Would I be considered too young, BatSteve?
02:24 Toastdude :P
02:24 BatSteve Probably
02:24 BatSteve It's a full-time job
02:24 Cprossu http://cryptome.org/eyeball​/daiichi-111211/pict24.jpg
02:24 BatSteve So you'd have to drop out of school
02:24 Ponko lol i'd take it
02:24 Cprossu Valve has got to be loving this
02:24 Ponko but i'd have to fly over to the us
02:25 Toastdude Valve?
02:25 BatSteve Cprossu: Reference material for Episode 3?
02:25 Cprossu I mean they have their textures/explode/whatever all ready for the next half life with some of these photos
02:25 Cprossu yeah
02:25 BatSteve :D
02:25 Cprossu http://cryptome.org/eyebal​l/daiichi-111211/pict9.jpg
02:25 Toastdude Oh, THAT Valve
02:25 Cprossu some of these photos are freaking awesome
02:25 yNos BatSteve: do you have to be a US citizen?
02:26 Cprossu http://cryptome.org/eyeball​/daiichi-111211/pict23.jpg
02:26 BatSteve yNos: I'll PM you the requirements if you're actually interested
02:26 NeWtoz Ponko wouldn't want it, because then he'd have to spell favorite, color, etc correctly ;)
02:26 Cprossu I never run wallpaper
02:26 Cprossu http://cryptome.org/eyeball​/daiichi-111211/pict32.jpg
02:26 yNos looks like something out of detroid : http://cryptome.org/eyeball​/daiichi-111211/pict21.jpg
02:26 Cprossu but damn
02:27 Ponko NeWtoz......
02:27 Ponko shush
02:27 yNos BatSteve: i am not, but it might be a hinderance for some of the people on here.
02:27 BatSteve Ah
02:27 BatSteve There's nothing about being a US citizen, but you have to have a valid Michigan driver's licence
02:27 yNos wonder if international lic would work?
02:27 Ponko ah i have a UK driver's license
02:28 BatSteve Probably in case they need you to drive the fuel truck
02:28 yNos Monkeh  - i think he (monkeh) was asking about work in the area...
02:28 * Hackbat is in training to be a self funded engineer student
02:28 NeWtoz my job requires a valid drivers license, and I don't have a clue why
02:28 Ponko wouldn't i need to have an HGV license for that BatSteve
02:28 yNos to get to and from work..
02:28 Cprossu yNos did you just do something to the network?
02:29 Cprossu ok back online nm
02:29 yNos nope
02:29 Monkeh yNos: Huh?
02:29 yNos Did you say something about finding work in the GR area?
02:29 yNos or was it someone else?
02:30 Monkeh Someone else
02:30 yNos m y memory runs togather...
02:30 yNos sorry
02:30 Monkeh I'm on the wrong side of the pond and can't even afford a flight over, so.. ;)
02:30 Ponko hmm i might Crop a photo of Chris' head and photo shop it onto a photo of either James T Kirk or Jean Luke Picard lol
02:30 dbshortwave http://www.sciplus.com/reco​mmend.cfm/recommendid/15777
02:30 BotSteve Title: American Science & Surplus : Send to a Friend
02:31 dbshortwave really??
02:31 BatSteve Neither - put it on the Dos Equis guy
02:31 yNos i <3 amscisurp
02:31 Ponko what Chris' head batsteve lol
02:31 BatSteve "I don't always make lightning, but when I do, I make it indoors"
02:31 yNos i want to go back down to their store in chicago
02:31 Ponko or Dr Frankenstien
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02:34 zombie1987 the most interesting man in the world
02:34 Toastdude Lol....
02:34 * zombie1987 has to start packing up to head home :(
02:34 yNos where is home? lakeview or somewhere else?
02:35 zombie1987 yeah, lakeview
02:35 zombie1987 its not HOME HOME, but its where i sleep
02:35 zombie1987 currently at MCC in sidney, this room closes at 10....
02:36 yNos avoiding being in lakeview?
02:37 * zombie1987 is going to attempt to dual boot her netbook tomorrow....who wants to help?
02:37 zombie1987 yes.....
02:38 zombie1987 how could you tell? :P
02:39 * Ponko is listening to Spiderbait - Black Betty
02:40 BatSteve BotSteve: tell seroster that I also don't care what the separator is, but we have to settle on something and keep it consistent
02:40 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when seroster is around.
02:40 BatSteve thanks BotSteve
02:40 BotSteve No problem, BatSteve
02:41 Ponko BotSteve is a real daper chap :)
02:41 Ponko as is BatSteve
02:42 BatSteve BotSteve: tell seroster that I also use dvorak, and am neither 300 lbs nor a spandex wearer
02:42 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when seroster is around.
02:42 Ponko o_O ok what am i missing here
02:42 zombie1987 i don't know, but i'm scared
02:43 * zombie1987 runs to the bathroom
02:43 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-GEuJOyLOg
02:43 BotSteve Title: Black Betty Spiderbait - YouTube
02:43 Toastdude You use Dvorak BatSteve?
02:44 BatSteve I do
02:44 Monkeh Ponko: Real men listen to Ram Jam.
02:44 Ponko Monkeh i'm listening to that now
02:44 Toastdude Cool! I need a Dvorak keyboard...
02:44 BatSteve No you don't
02:44 Toastdude Why not?
02:45 BatSteve Start > Run > "intl.cpl" > Keyboards > Add Keyboard > Dvorak > Add > Ok
02:45 Ponko WOAH BLACK BETTY BAMA LAMB GO BLACK BETTY BAMA LAMB
02:45 Ponko eh monkeh
02:45 BatSteve BAM.  Dvorak keyboard.
02:45 BatSteve (:
02:45 Toastdude I don't know the keyboard mapping anymore.... *looks up*
02:45 astro73|mal ooph. Registering for classes next semester
02:46 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​KMA8TdK2gJI&amp;feature=related this better Monkeh?
02:46 BotSteve Title: Ram Jam - Black Betty *OFFICIAL VIDEO* W/ Lyrics HD - YouTube
02:46 astro73|mal I can either have 3hrs of philosophy, or have it at 7:45AM
02:46 Monkeh Ponko: That's the one.
02:46 Ponko :P
02:47 Ponko i like both tbh lol
02:47 Monkeh Yeah, the Spiderbait version isn't bad.
02:47 Ponko can't beat the originals though
02:48 zombie1987 astro73|mal those BOTH sucks
02:48 zombie1987 suck*
02:48 zombie1987 3 hours of phil?!  :puke:
02:48 Ponko where the bloody hell is lee
02:49 Ponko lwq1996: you there mate?
02:50 astro73|mal zombie1987, pretty much, yeah
02:50 BatSteve .yt spiderbait ghost riders
02:50 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhKWZNxWIC0
02:50 BatSteve Crappy movie, good song
02:50 Ponko indeed
02:51 zombie1987 http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumb​lr_lus0uk2LSQ1qj01c0o1_500.png
02:51 Ponko Playing football in the tampon aisle: Ponko
02:51 * Ponko grimaces
02:52 Ponko zombie1987 i actually did that once :P
02:53 zombie1987 ??
02:54 Ponko play football in the tampon aisle at 4am in ASDA
02:54 zombie1987 ooo ok
02:54 zombie1987 how was it?
02:54 * zombie1987 needs to shut down
02:56 Ponko lol well i DID have about 5 Jager Monsters and 3 pints of stella lol
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02:59 Ponko .weather 44304
02:59 astro73-bot Clear ☼, 35.6℉ (2℃), 30.00in (1013mb), Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - KAKR 02:54Z
02:59 BotSteve Clear ☼, 35.6℉ (2℃), 30.00in (1013mb), Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - KAKR 02:54Z
02:59 Toastdude Hi BotSteve
02:59 BotSteve Word up Toastdude!
03:00 Toastdude .cake BotSteve
03:00 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *Looks at cake with a crazed look in his eyes*
03:00 Ponko hey botsteve
03:00 BotSteve Greetings Ponko
03:00 Toastdude Hi astro73-bot
03:00 Ponko i need a cockney greeting lol
03:00 Toastdude dARN...
03:00 Toastdude Lol
03:00 Toastdude Why?
03:01 Ponko because being greeted like a cockney is ideal lol
03:01 yNos define:"Cockney Greeting"
03:01 BatSteve What sort of greetings would be "cockney"?
03:02 yNos .g  define:"Cockney Greeting"
03:02 BotSteve yNos: http://askville.amazon.com/Harry-P​otter-books-term-Wotcher-greeting/​AnswerViewer.do?requestId=3548237
03:02 Ponko alright
03:02 Ponko strike a light
03:02 BatSteve GREEN ARMY
03:02 Ponko :P
03:03 Ponko GREEN ARMY
03:03 yNos you guys must really like kawasaki motorsports...
03:04 yNos .g "kawasaki team green"
03:04 BotSteve yNos: http://www.kawasaki.com/Rac​ing_TeamGreen/Landing.aspx
03:04 Ponko yNos not what it is over here
03:05 Ponko Plymouth Argyle
03:05 egrsteve|away ynos you looing for me?
03:05 yNos i was.. but i forgot about what now..
03:05 egrsteve|away *looking?
03:05 yNos something video..
03:05 Cprossu oh god this is too funny
03:05 Cprossu ready for this?
03:06 Cprossu <Josh_Stevenson43> Whats Gentoo
03:06 Cprossu <Cprossu> Pain and suffering.
03:06 Cprossu * scorchgid (~Gideon_Sa@682809F2.AE114859.985769A6.IP) has joined #chris
03:06 Cprossu <Josh_Stevenson43> no seriously
03:06 Cprossu <Cprossu> no, seriosuly.
03:06 Cprossu <darckasasin> ^^^
03:06 Cprossu <darckasasin> All you need to know, Josh_Stevenson43.
03:06 egrsteve|away something old, something new somthing stolen somthing blue?
03:06 Cprossu <Josh_Stevenson43> Where do I get Gentoo?
03:06 Cprossu <Cprossu> if you have to ask, it's not the distro for you.
03:06 Cprossu <darckasasin> ^^^
03:06 dbshortwave i need a duct tape hammoc
03:06 egrsteve|away then make one
03:06 yNos yup
03:06 dbshortwave planning on it ;]
03:06 BatSteve ha
03:07 Cprossu hey BatSteve and happy birthday?!
03:07 yNos egrsteve: so, the box we will be jacking all of these cameras into.. what are you looking for in a DVR?
03:07 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | <Josh_Stevenson43> Where do I get Gentoo?: <Cprossu> if you have to ask, it's not the distro for you.
03:07 BatSteve thanks Cprossu!
03:07 Ponko .yt Green Army Aviva advert
03:07 egrsteve we currently have a 16 channel 15fps DVR
03:07 BotSteve Ponko: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tuVGST_1gE
03:08 egrsteve motion detect would be nice
03:08 egrsteve record only when motion is detected in frame
03:08 yNos aaah ok
03:08 egrsteve fairly large # of channels
03:08 yNos didnt know if that was done in dvr or in a mux of some sort.
03:09 Cprossu egrsteve have you been mucking with the burle as of late?
03:09 astro73|alice BatSteve: happy birthday! I wrote code for you.
03:09 egrsteve no time to
03:09 egrsteve I have been dealing with camera install when I'm there
03:10 Ponko is it time for BatSteve to get his bumps
03:10 egrsteve half of saturday was spent installing one camera in the entrance
03:10 Cprossu and bill's sick
03:10 Cprossu wow. 1/2 of it!
03:10 Cprossu sheeeeeeiiiiiiiiiit
03:12 egrsteve it was a tricky install
03:12 Toastdude Sheit?
03:12 Toastdude Lol
03:12 egrsteve incolving a 5 bend stick of conduit
03:12 Cprossu does the cable run go all the way to mc?
03:12 egrsteve that was not fun
03:12 egrsteve no, it goes to the NOC
03:12 Cprossu oh ok
03:13 egrsteve power will be injected at the noc and video will be sent fron there to MC 4 per cat5
03:13 egrsteve vs 1 per cat5 from camera
03:13 Cprossu speaking of which
03:13 BatSteve astro73|alice: thank you!
03:13 Cprossu I was thinking we need some cat5's installed eventually from mc to noc
03:13 BatSteve (for the birthday, as well as the code)
03:13 Cprossu as utility cables
03:14 astro73|alice Not that code is much of a gift...
03:14 egrsteve yes, it will have a nice bundle when I am done
03:14 Cprossu nice.
03:14 dbshortwave i have aquired one of these http://media.giantbomb.com/upload​s/0/26/10066-atari2600_large.jpg
03:14 egrsteve and running them to the NOC allows easy upgrade to IPcams someday
03:14 Cprossu awwww only a 4 switcher @ dbshortwave
03:15 dbshortwave lol
03:15 egrsteve the NOC will become a central Video hub
03:15 egrsteve speaking of the NOC needs a hole in the floor
03:15 Monkeh Cprossu: Cease hating on the Gentoo!
03:16 Monkeh Cprossu: HATE CRIMES!
03:16 yNos is that where the equipment will be housed?
03:16 yNos in the rack on the right?
03:16 Cprossu you know I cannot force gentoo on a noob right Monkeh?
03:16 egrsteve the NOC will house my patchpanels
03:16 yNos egrsteve: how big of a hole?
03:16 egrsteve as for final DVR probably MC
03:16 Monkeh Cprossu: I'd ask you not to, but don't call it pain and suffering!
03:16 yNos where will your equipment live?
03:16 egrsteve current patch is 2 RU
03:17 Monkeh Cprossu: It's a lot less painful than coping with Redhate or Ubuntu brain damage
03:17 egrsteve top of right rack
03:17 Cprossu if you are a noob who can't use google
03:17 Cprossu then there's no right answer
03:17 Monkeh Cprossu: Then it's not pain and suffering, it's a brick wall.
03:17 egrsteve the DVRs will be in MC so video can be shared with streaming
03:17 Cprossu Monkeh: I also asked if he was a masochist, he asked what a masochist was
03:17 yNos thats not a problem.. but will we need to run 96x2 pieces of coax/catv to wherever it will live?
03:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Advise him to return to school. :)
03:18 egrsteve for now the NOC acts as a central hub, yes and no
03:18 egrsteve each camera will get a cat5 to the NOC each run to MC will carry 4 cameras
03:18 yNos cool
03:18 Monkeh egrsteve: Mmm, wiring fun. :D
03:19 yNos are we going to do power injection in the noc?
03:19 egrsteve single camera in to NOC so it can inject power over a pair as well
03:19 yNos one big powersupply for each voltage needed so we dont have a crapload of wall warts?
03:19 egrsteve that leaves 2 unused pairs one could be genlock or other use
03:20 egrsteve right now we have 3 wall warts
03:20 egrsteve 1 12v DC for enrty cam and 2 24 AC 40VA for everythign else
03:20 Monkeh What voltages are you dealing with?
03:20 yNos will they hold up to the current requirement?
03:20 egrsteve each camera draws 3-4 watts max
03:21 Cprossu egrsteve how about startup surge?
03:21 egrsteve so a 40va should be able to power abotu 10 cameras
03:21 yNos 96*3.5amps(avg)
03:21 Cprossu they are autoiris for the most part right?
03:21 Monkeh Are you taking the run length into account?
03:22 egrsteve mixed auto/fixed iris
03:22 yNos sag is not as much an issue with AC.. but it is small diam wire..
03:22 egrsteve runlength yes and no, upto 6V of drop is still funcitonal with most of those cameras
03:22 Monkeh yNos: It's definitely an issue at 24V
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03:23 egrsteve more important is current
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03:23 egrsteve at 1/3 an amp it should not be too bad
03:23 yNos do the color ones draw more?
03:24 Monkeh I'd expect so but it can't be much.
03:24 egrsteve i don't think so they are all in the 3-4 watt range
03:24 Monkeh egrsteve: What's the longest run?
03:25 egrsteve probably will be less than 200ft
03:26 egrsteve at 4 watts .16 amp draw on 24v
03:26 yNos sw corner of the building will be fun to run..
03:27 egrsteve lobby to radio to mdh along wall by CNCs
03:27 egrsteve along West wall, up to camera
03:27 yNos can you run an extra catv out there for the west mdh AP?
03:27 yNos **catV
03:28 yNos they can be next to each other for less cable clutter.
03:28 egrsteve sure, it will get hangers on the wall about 10ft up so cable maintenenace won
03:28 egrsteve 't be an issue
03:28 Cprossu hahhahah yNos
03:28 egrsteve like in the lobby but 1"
03:28 Cprossu CA TV wire
03:28 yNos if you have 2 boxes and can do 2 runs at the same time, would be superbadass
03:28 Cprossu rofl
03:28 yNos yeah, re-read it and thought the same.
03:29 Sgt_Lemming http://t.co/w5BKfDHK <--- might interest you guys, Obama's speech to Australian parliament
03:29 BotSteve Title: TEN News | Channel Ten - Watch Full Episodes and Video
03:29 egrsteve the more boxes we get the easier it is period
03:29 yNos actually.. Moose needs a switch in her area.. so we will have to find out about running fibre over there.
03:29 yNos that will be fun...
03:30 egrsteve then a half height rack might be nice tere
03:30 Monkeh egrsteve: Shame these things are AC or I'd say use a couple of batteries and a trickle charger. :)
03:30 Monkeh yNos: s/fun/expensive/
03:30 yNos took the longest run we had to get to show control
03:30 yNos will rack up a switch in there tomorrow
03:30 Sgt_Lemming yNos, fibre to a converter in the ceiling then a vertical copper drop to her desk?
03:31 yNos nah, cisco 2950 near her desk
03:31 Sgt_Lemming kk
03:31 lwq1996 hey ynos...how are ya
03:31 Sgt_Lemming her desk is sort of out in the middle of the room though isn't it?
03:31 yNos not too bad
03:31 egrsteve mayeb moose can make a nice looking rack we have plenty of rack rails and place a small rack/counter over there
03:31 Monkeh Hope that fibre drop will be in conduit
03:31 yNos it is on the nw corner of the MDH
03:31 lwq1996 thats good
03:31 Sgt_Lemming ah ok
03:31 Toastdude O hi Lee
03:32 lwq1996 i cant wait till 10th grade
03:32 yNos why does fiber need to be in conduit?
03:32 lwq1996 lol
03:32 Monkeh yNos: The thought of accidentally crushing a piece of fibre gives me nightmares?
03:32 lwq1996 because its glass and it breaks easy
03:32 lwq1996 lol
03:32 egrsteve it will be on the wall in hangers at about 10ft up
03:32 Isopropyl|Media like rolling over it with a chair wheel
03:32 Monkeh Yeah, but when it comes down to the desk?
03:32 yNos most fiber we get isnt glass.
03:32 Isopropyl|Media *crack pop*
03:33 lwq1996 oh it isnt
03:33 Sgt_Lemming Isopropyl|Media, that would require it running on the floor
03:33 lwq1996 but still
03:33 egrsteve drop should be along the wall
03:33 Sgt_Lemming something tells me that won't be happening
03:33 Isopropyl|Media eh
03:33 Isopropyl|Media may happen temporarily
03:33 egrsteve ynos what do you think about a half height rack by moose along the wall for gear?
03:33 Cprossu you know what used to give me nighmares about fiber?
03:33 Monkeh Temporarily drape good fibre on the floor and I may hang you with it. ;)
03:33 Cprossu stabbing myself with it.
03:34 lwq1996 i hope i get into the ctc in my area for computer technology/ cisco academy
03:34 Isopropyl|Media and we all know someone in the world has made that mistake
03:34 Sgt_Lemming egrsteve, mebe put a 6u comms rack there?
03:34 Sgt_Lemming wallmount comms rack above her desk
03:34 egrsteve I was thinkning floorstanding 10 to 15ish
03:34 yNos i was thinking of mounting the switch on the wall with a filter on it and running cable as needed.
03:34 Cprossu anything that's near mooses desk needs sawdust protection
03:34 Sgt_Lemming it's a fairly dusty area, having it on the floor is a bad idea
03:34 Isopropyl|Media build a computer that hooks straight to the fiber and name it porn funnel. place it in the lounge.
03:34 yNos i agree with lemmy
03:35 Sgt_Lemming the higher the better IMHO
03:35 egrsteve I was thining rack with door
03:35 Monkeh Yeah, put the switch up on the wall.
03:35 egrsteve *thinking
03:35 Sgt_Lemming racks tend to have an open bottom
03:35 Monkeh Is it going to be just a switch?
03:35 yNos for now it is just a switch
03:35 Sgt_Lemming it'll turn into a convection chimney, and suck dust off the floor
03:35 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
03:35 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 2.75 hours ago at 2011-11-17 00:50:33 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:35:38 UTC
03:35 astro73-bot lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 2.75 hours ago at 2011-11-17 00:50:33 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:35:38 UTC
03:35 astro73|alice Huh. That's not supposed to happen. *shrug*
03:35 Monkeh yNos: If that's all it's likely to be you can get a nice simple bracket to hang 19" stuff flat on a wall.
03:36 egrsteve bot redundancy
03:36 Monkeh yNos: Bonus of simply reaching up and plugging in.
03:36 astro73|alice egrsteve: i thought I told mine not to do that. It's only temporary anyways
03:36 Cprossu speaking of chimneys, specifically of the forced airflow kind, mooses computer will need a cleaning in about 2 weeks
03:36 egrsteve sure...
03:36 lwq1996 lol astro i think you need to clean some of your bot up
03:36 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, having it in a cabinet makes cable management easier, and also makes it easier to dust proof
03:36 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: A limit to the dust proofing you can do with these things really.
03:36 egrsteve he was here?
03:37 yNos yup
03:37 Monkeh There going to be a lot of stuff connected?
03:37 astro73|alice lwq1996: he's going away when testing is done. I'm just trying to make sure it's working as expected on real-world data
03:37 Sgt_Lemming indeed, but it's easier to dustproof a cabinet, than a standalone device
03:37 yNos 3 haas machines, 3+ PCs
03:37 yNos 1 fiber
03:37 Cprossu Monkeh: issue is if it's too dust proof the filters clog with dust and it becomes a self baking PCB oven
03:37 yNos and a partrige in a pear tree
03:37 Sgt_Lemming the HAAS machines have ethernet?
03:37 lwq1996 lol ok
03:37 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: No way no how and never.
03:37 yNos they do, just not enabled.
03:37 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu?
03:37 Cprossu and it will never be enabled.
03:37 egrsteve some do IDK if the TGG ones do
03:38 Sgt_Lemming why not Cprossu?
03:38 yNos Moose said they have it.
03:38 Cprossu yeah they have it.
03:38 egrsteve ok, then they have it
03:38 Monkeh Plugging CNC machines into a network with any form of remote access does not seem wise.
03:38 yNos just not enabled in this rev of firmware
03:38 Cprossu ooh goodie.
03:38 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, that's what firewalling/vlans are for
03:38 yNos so they want it run over there in prep.
03:38 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: True, but.. the potential for mayhem is rather high.
03:38 astro73|alice Sgt_Lemming: how about physically seperated network?
03:39 Sgt_Lemming put the CNC machines and any machines allowed to access them on a seperate VLAN
03:39 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: If they are ever on a network they will be on their own physically sperated network.
03:39 Cprossu with no bridging
03:39 Sgt_Lemming physically seperated is one way to achieve it
03:39 Sgt_Lemming but overkill in this situation imho
03:39 Cprossu think of who we're dealing with here.
03:39 Sgt_Lemming yes
03:39 Monkeh Why would they need to be connected anyway?
03:39 yNos we can setup a seperate vlan and make her PC the only bridge between the 2
03:39 Isopropyl|Media how warm should the standard hdd get?
03:39 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, you can upload jobs to them etc
03:40 Cprossu a haas machine is too expensive of a liability to have in a place where it can be modified/messed up/ruined
03:40 egrsteve I think you can only remote load files not start the machine, mayne moniter it
03:40 Sgt_Lemming Isopropyl|Media, not that hot
03:40 Cprossu just because someone wanted a faster computer
03:40 Cprossu ^ totally stole a BSG line
03:40 Sgt_Lemming mebe a few defrees above ambient
03:40 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Ehh.. I'd rather just take a stick to them.
03:40 Isopropyl|Media mine get hotter than that
03:40 Monkeh Isopropyl|Media: That depends on a lot of things.
03:40 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, being able to log the jobs progress is also nice
03:40 Isopropyl|Media hot enough i had to wire a fan to blow across them
03:41 Monkeh Isopropyl|Media: That's not a number.
03:41 Isopropyl|Media and they're still warm
03:41 astro73|alice I feel like at this point, it's not a big deal
03:41 yNos take a stick to them is nice, but being able to remote watch for errors is nice too..
03:41 yNos so she could walk away and get a notice if something fails.
03:41 Monkeh yNos: I can arrange that with a gigantic air horn.
03:41 astro73|alice since Moose is pretty much the queen of the machine shop, and her office is right there
03:41 Sgt_Lemming Isopropyl|Media, 7200 or 5400 rpm drives?
03:41 Isopropyl|Media 7200
03:41 Sgt_Lemming yeah
03:41 Sgt_Lemming they tend to run warmer
03:41 Sgt_Lemming also is the case steel or ALU?
03:41 Monkeh If there's more than one of them in an enclosed space you generally need to provide air movement.
03:42 Monkeh Only takes a little
03:42 Isopropyl|Media alu hdd cases on a steel frame
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03:42 Sgt_Lemming yeah
03:42 Cprossu ^ I find this has little to do with the hot running or not of hdd's (steel vs alu)
03:42 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, alu can help a little bit as it conducts the heat away better
03:42 Monkeh A little.
03:42 Monkeh A very little.
03:42 Cprossu not tangible
03:42 Cprossu is what I say
03:42 Monkeh People have long said that alu cases run cooler
03:42 Monkeh I don't particularly believe it.
03:42 Cprossu nor have I
03:43 Sgt_Lemming alu cases don't cool the cpu better
03:43 Monkeh There's no significant thermal coupling except with HDDs, and even then..
03:43 Sgt_Lemming as there is no thermal path from the cpu to the case
03:43 Monkeh Most HDDs are now soft mounted anyway
03:43 Cprossu I find the design of a case has more to do with the cooling of various parts
03:43 yNos but there could be..
03:43 Monkeh And the rails should never be so tight as to provide good contact
03:43 Isopropyl|Media eh the pc runs fine and theres no read/write issues or latency. hell this entire pc is a miracle on how its running with all the crap i've done to it
03:43 Cprossu and having a bit of airflow through hdd's will help the most
03:43 Cprossu as most hard drives' own cases are a rather big aluminum heatsink
03:44 Sgt_Lemming yes Cprossu, but given identical design alu will cool a hdd better than steel
03:44 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Will it?
03:44 Sgt_Lemming yes, it's simple physics
03:44 Cprossu nope
03:44 Sgt_Lemming sigh
03:44 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: And what if I decide to use these to get rid of the annoying buzzing noise you get from a lightweigh alu case? http://rocky.digikey.com/weblib/Keysto​ne%20Electronics/Web%20Photos/736.jpg
03:44 Cprossu sorry to tell you you're out of basis for this one.
03:44 Cheezmo_Skyrim Monkeh: http://i.imgur.com/HPaT6.gif
03:44 Ponko ok who has a good cure for a blocked nose
03:44 Monkeh Ponko: Walk around
03:45 Isopropyl|Media blow it out in the shower
03:45 Sgt_Lemming fuck it, I really don't care and can't be bothered arguing
03:45 Cprossu jasmine tea.
03:45 Isopropyl|Media just keep going till theres nothin left
03:45 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, yes if you use soft mounting it's a moot point
03:45 Cprossu yes theoretically there's an advantage
03:45 Sgt_Lemming if there is direct metal to metal contact, alu will cool better
03:45 Ponko lol thanks guys
03:45 Cheezmo_Skyrim Ponko: pseudophedrine HCL or penylephrine HCL
03:45 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I would be very interested to see you build two cases and prove a worthwhile thermal advantage.
03:45 Cprossu but since we're talking about minimal surface area Sgt_Lemming no it doesn;t
03:45 Cprossu what's the HDD cool to?
03:45 Cprossu AIR.
03:45 * Isopropyl|Media feels responsible for this argument a bit
03:45 Monkeh And again, the rails should not grip that tightly
03:45 Cprossu it radiates heat to the air.
03:45 yNos http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com​/thermal-conductivity-d_429.html
03:45 BotSteve Title: Thermal Conductivity of some common Materials and Gases
03:45 * Isopropyl|Media troll faces and walks away
03:46 Cprossu eveb tge case radiates heat to air
03:46 Ponko cheezmo_skyrim which is?
03:46 Ponko lol
03:46 Cprossu *the
03:46 Cheezmo_Skyrim good ol' decongestant
03:46 Monkeh Cheezmo_Skyrim: I have seen the less homosexual version of that.
03:46 Cprossu thus the cooling a hdd gets in a case has more to do with where it is and what airflow it gets
03:46 Cheezmo_Skyrim lol
03:46 Sgt_Lemming not arguing the point, you can spout all the crap at me you want, my knowledge says different
03:46 Cheezmo_Skyrim my buddy linked me to it
03:46 Cprossu as it's a larger heatsink surface than the case is at that point
03:46 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I don't deny aluminium is a better thermal conductor.
03:47 Cprossu but as for it's 'cooling effect' on a hdd
03:47 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: But without evidence I refuse to believe a case made of aluminium offers any worthwhile thermal advantage to an HDD.
03:47 BatSteve-Away Isopropyl|Media: you trollin?
03:47 BatSteve-Away ::high five::
03:47 Isopropyl|Media not intentionally batsteve
03:47 * BatSteve-Away returns to being -Away
03:48 Ponko KNIFE IN YOUR BACK HAHAHA
03:48 * Cprossu doesn't blame BatSteve-Away
03:48 * yNos does
03:48 * Isopropyl|Media is sooooooo bored
03:48 yNos ;)
03:49 yNos time for bed
03:49 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: In any case, decoupling the HDD with grommets reduces vibration to such a degree that it really doesn't matter, I'll take a steel case with grommets and a slightly faster fan any day.
03:49 * egrsteve seconds ynos
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03:49 BotSteve Cookies, Sandwiches, Skittles, Oh my!
03:49 Monkeh Puny mortals, sleep is for the weak
03:49 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, that is completely peripheral to the argument
03:49 * wannabe1987 thaws
03:49 yNos alright, gnight all
03:50 Sgt_Lemming night yNos, sleep well
03:50 wannabe1987 night yNos
03:50 yNos wannabe1987, just wait a few months ;)
03:50 * yNos waves
03:50 wannabe1987 lol i know
03:52 Cprossu crap
03:52 Cprossu I don't have 2 identical hard drives that have internal temp sensors.
03:52 Monkeh Cprossu: I have lots but I'm not experimenting with them. :D
03:52 Cprossu I did find an aluminum and a steel drive cage though
03:53 astro73|alice Cprossu: do you have an external temp probe you could use?
03:53 Monkeh Uhoh
03:53 Cprossu not a good one
03:53 Monkeh One of my drives has dropped
03:53 Sgt_Lemming external temp probe isn't as good as the internal ones generally
03:54 astro73|alice Sgt_Lemming: still better than nothing
03:54 Sgt_Lemming yeah, but unless he has two identical drives it's a moot point
03:55 Sgt_Lemming actually three would be even better as then you can do an unmounted control :-P
03:55 Cprossu 2 is fine
03:55 Cprossu what I'd do is 2 runs
03:55 Cprossu each drive gets a run in steel and in alu
03:56 Cprossu steal and alu runs will happen at same time in case
03:56 Cprossu *steel
03:56 Cprossu andddddd.
03:56 Cprossu uh.
03:56 Cprossu yes.
03:56 Sgt_Lemming err, to take any variables out, doing it outside the case would be better
03:57 Isopropyl|Media ohh and the hdds are WD
03:57 Cprossu might also make a run with and without fans.
03:57 Isopropyl|Media I've personally noticed WD's run warmer
03:57 Cprossu it wouldn't even have a case
04:00 Isopropyl|Media hmm the athlon 64 just can't handle the needs of Fruity Loops
04:01 eadthem dam  what kind of needs dose Fruity Loops have
04:01 Cprossu I guarantee that a test with a single 80mm 23cfm fan running at 5V though would make a more drastic difference than the 1C or less the aluminum will make
04:01 Isopropyl|Media atleast a track using tons of pluging
04:01 eadthem or is it a single core athlon 64
04:01 Isopropyl|Media single
04:01 Isopropyl|Media its the 3000+
04:02 eadthem so basicly same as what i have right now but with 64 bit
04:02 eadthem athlon xp 3000+ barton
04:02 Monkeh Looks like I've just had my first WD failure
04:02 Cprossu sounds like it was self induced though
04:02 eadthem smart?
04:02 Cprossu that doesn't count
04:03 Monkeh Cprossu: Self induced?
04:03 astro73|alice didn't google publish a paper saying that SMART is only marginally useful?
04:03 eadthem better than nothing
04:03 Monkeh eadthem: SMART doesn't help when the drive is stone dead.
04:03 eadthem ile take marganly useful over no warning
04:04 Cprossu didn't you say you dropped a hdd a moment ago Monkeh?
04:04 astro73|alice http://static.googleusercontent.com/ex​ternal_content/untrusted_dlcp/labs.goo​gle.com/en/us/papers/disk_failures.pdf
04:04 eadthem no   smart wont pad a concreate floor or ground you before you draw a 1 inch ESD off it
04:04 Monkeh Cprossu: Dropped.. from my array
04:04 Cprossu oooh =(
04:04 Cprossu not fun
04:04 eadthem could it be a loose sata cable
04:05 Monkeh 950:[1385431.055161] ata4: softreset failed (device not ready)
04:05 Monkeh 951:[1385431.055170] ata4: reset failed, giving up
04:05 Monkeh eadthem: There aren't any cables to come loose.
04:05 Sgt_Lemming FUCK YOU STEAM #@%$(!@%$(@#%&^"@#%$@#%$
04:05 Monkeh eadthem: Backplane, screwed connections.
04:05 eadthem i had one of them on my blue ray drive   just replugged it and windows found it right away  like it was a usb thumbdrive
04:05 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: which game?
04:05 Sgt_Lemming I went through very maticulously the other day and set every game to update automatically
04:05 eadthem mmm soft reset
04:05 Sgt_Lemming just go to launch a game "oh no you need to download this update"
04:05 Sgt_Lemming FUCKING STEAM >_<
04:06 eadthem Monkeh why did it issue a soft reset?
04:06 Monkeh eadthem: .. Because the drive stopped responding.
04:06 eadthem mmm  i ment what was the first line showing trouble
04:06 Isopropyl|Media i had a wd drive in a playstation 3 give a soft reset error on me. I took it lifted it to my head, dropped it on carpeted concrete and it worked.
04:06 eadthem or was that not logged
04:06 Monkeh 936:[1385370.720206] ata4.00: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen
04:06 Monkeh 937:[1385370.720219] ata4.00: failed command: IDENTIFY DEVICE
04:06 Monkeh 938:[1385370.720239] ata4.00: cmd ec/00:01:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/00 tag 0 pio 512 in
04:06 Monkeh 939:[1385370.720243]          res 40/00:00:01:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask 0x4 (timeout)
04:06 Monkeh eadthem: As I said. The drive stopped responding.
04:07 Isopropyl|Media lol it won't even try?
04:07 Sgt_Lemming fucking stupid thing is, I was trying to launch CS:S... and it's updating TF2 beta...
04:07 Isopropyl|Media is it scanning the platters?
04:07 Monkeh Isopropyl|Media: ... Try what?
04:07 eadthem mmm  so first command showing a failure is a device identify   sounds cable or controller ish  or possably power ish
04:08 Isopropyl|Media Monkeh is it attempting to move its parts and do something or is it dead
04:08 Monkeh Isopropyl|Media: Do I look like a bat?
04:08 Sgt_Lemming considering it's on a backplane, my first assumption would be drive
04:08 Isopropyl|Media >.>
04:08 Monkeh eadthem: It's not cable, power, or controller.
04:08 Monkeh eadthem: IDENTIFY DEVICE would be send if the drive was powered down.
04:09 Monkeh Which it will have been
04:09 Isopropyl|Media it could be the header connection between the controller boards and case
04:09 eadthem all im saying is   are all the connections screwd on
04:09 Monkeh Isopropyl|Media: Unless someone has used the key which is only on my keyring to open the case and disturb the single connector which all four drives run through without disrupting them..
04:09 Monkeh eadthem: Of course they are.
04:10 Sgt_Lemming eadthem, it's a backplane, it's kinda hard for the connections to come loose
04:10 Isopropyl|Media I thought he dropped it
04:10 eadthem backplane  meaning drives mount right to a header card
04:10 eadthem ?
04:10 Monkeh Isopropyl|Media: I said it dropped. From my array.
04:10 Monkeh I never said I dropped it.
04:10 Isopropyl|Media OHHH
04:11 Sgt_Lemming yes eadthem
04:11 Isopropyl|Media then keep ignoring all my previous comments
04:11 eadthem i can still see how mechanical tolrences could cause a flakey connection  paticuarly if its some sort of quick swap structure  keyed or not
04:12 Monkeh eadthem: And I'm telling you that's hugely unlikely.
04:12 Monkeh To such a degree that it's hardly worth considering
04:13 Monkeh That's why backplanes are used.
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04:15 IsopropylAlcohol crazy stuff on the science channel
04:16 astro73|alice crazy like "wow, that's so cool!" or like "Is this science or the history channel?"
04:16 IsopropylAlcohol former
04:16 IsopropylAlcohol its about a woman who was hypnotised into a sleeper agent
04:17 astro73|alice .... sounds more like the latter...
04:17 IsopropylAlcohol eh, its sciency
04:17 eadthem Monkeh btw how olds the drive
04:17 IsopropylAlcohol or atleast should be tword the end
04:18 Monkeh eadthem: Not particularly.
04:18 eadthem i mean like  less than 3 months   or more than a year
04:18 Monkeh None of the above
04:18 eadthem iirc from googlees papers  thats kinda a gray area
04:19 eadthem most of the failures were ither old or  realy new
04:19 eadthem iirc
04:19 Monkeh I know this.
04:19 IsopropylAlcohol what model is the drive
04:19 Monkeh WD20EARS
04:20 IsopropylAlcohol if i recall there was a string of drives known to develop firmware failures
04:20 Monkeh Not these.
04:20 IsopropylAlcohol may of been seagates
04:20 Monkeh Yes, it was.
04:22 eadthem neweggs showinga  failure rate on that model
04:22 eadthem http://www.newegg.com/Product/Pr​oduct.aspx?Item=N82E16822136514
04:22 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EARS 2TB 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
04:22 Monkeh I really don't care what Newegg says
04:23 Cprossu hdd's all die
04:23 Cprossu 100%
04:23 Cprossu just like humans.
04:23 Cprossu (damn fools)
04:23 eadthem well it tells ya that   that model has had more than average early failures
04:23 Monkeh eadthem: Newegg reviews on hardware mean less to me than my mother's opinion on hardware, and she knows absolutely nothing.
04:23 Monkeh eadthem: No it doesn't.
04:23 Cprossu doesn't tell you anything eadthem
04:23 Cprossu go look at any hdd made for any serious amount of time
04:23 Cprossu you'll find it
04:24 Ponko lol "they've done tests y'know, 60% of the time, it works, everytime."
04:24 Cprossu Statistically speaking 101% of all statistics are made up.
04:24 Ponko lol
04:25 Ponko that quote was in a movie too
04:25 IsopropylAlcohol It works 100% of the time 80% of  the time
04:25 Cprossu I'm not sure Ponko I made it up on the spot
04:25 Ponko no i meant my one
04:26 Cprossu oh ok !
04:27 IsopropylAlcohol hmm apparently this style of drive is known to just burn its board up
04:28 IsopropylAlcohol be it a controller or component
04:28 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKiSPUc2Jck
04:28 BotSteve Title: 60% of the Time, It Works Every Time SCENE - Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy MOVIE (2004) - HD - YouTube
04:28 IsopropylAlcohol they just run hot
04:28 * wannabe1987 is listening to 500 miles by the proclaimers
04:28 eadthem the thing im reading is  issues with the LLC and headparking
04:29 IsopropylAlcohol duh dut dut da dut da
04:29 eadthem having to do with the green serise parking the heads to save power and thus causing sudden failures
04:30 eadthem http://www.readynas.com/forum/​viewtopic.php?f=24&amp;t=32179
04:30 BotSteve Title: NETGEAR ReadyNAS • View topic - WD10EADS WD Caviar Green not recommended for NAS by WD
04:30 Monkeh eadthem: Thank you, I'm well aware of how the drives operate.
04:30 IsopropylAlcohol i'm reading about firmware and environment
04:30 Ponko kelly that makes me think of my yazoo
04:30 Monkeh eadthem: I have done a vast amount of research on them and other HDD types.
04:30 wannabe1987 lol
04:30 wannabe1987 yazoo?
04:30 * Ponko loves his yazoo
04:30 Ponko look at my rs
04:31 Ponko relationship status
04:31 wannabe1987 ah
04:31 IsopropylAlcohol "Another quite common symptom Western Digital drives experience is clicking/knocking/clunking/sweeping noise." I can't recall how many of this issue I've fixed with a slap to the palm of my hand
04:31 Monkeh IsopropylAlcohol: ......
04:31 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcP1h2​tEYag&amp;list=FLbTPYxLKCrzSeO7Ww0JLw​hg&amp;index=3&amp;feature=plpp_video
04:31 BotSteve Title: speak for yourself, moron! - YouTube
04:32 IsopropylAlcohol what monkeh?
04:32 eadthem IsopropylAlcohol i had a old one that was like that
04:32 Ponko omg that is funny
04:32 Monkeh IsopropylAlcohol: You are aware of how HDDs operate?
04:32 retup-phone joined #thegeekgroup
04:32 IsopropylAlcohol yes I've done extensive repairs to many of them
04:32 IsopropylAlcohol I use to do data recovery too
04:32 eadthem ended up being a issue with the head parking mech getting stuck
04:33 IsopropylAlcohol yep
04:33 eadthem but that was a quantom iirc
04:33 eadthem 2.5 inch 120mb
04:33 Monkeh IsopropylAlcohol: And still you apply extreme G forces to them?
04:33 * wannabe1987 wants a donut
04:33 * Ponko wants yazoo in his arms
04:33 IsopropylAlcohol yes, you just need to know where to tap em
04:33 Monkeh IsopropylAlcohol: And yet don't know what operating temperatures are safe?
04:34 IsopropylAlcohol I know safe operating temps, but the hand is not a proper thermometer
04:34 Toastdude wannabe1987: I can has bring one when I go to GRR, maybe...
04:35 tonsofpcs tap them in his end of turn step, obviously
04:35 Ponko oh B*****KS
04:35 eadthem "Apparently, WD rates the drive for 300K load cycles. At the present rate, my drive will exceed that in less than a year."
04:35 wannabe1987 lol
04:35 IsopropylAlcohol lol tons
04:35 eadthem how much power could they possably save by parking the heads that often
04:35 Ponko dropped my F***ING phone
04:35 tonsofpcs eadthem: MTTF or MTBF or ?
04:35 wannabe1987 you coming here RIGHT NOW?
04:35 Toastdude Night all!
04:35 eadthem LLC  load cycles of the head on to the parking ramp
04:36 Toastdude No, around Christmas, wannabe :P
04:36 Ponko wait what
04:36 tonsofpcs right, but what's the number mean?
04:36 Toastdude Pi.
04:36 Ponko Toasty you're going to GR
04:36 Ponko and furthermore
04:36 eadthem 300,000 loads and unloads  or parks and unparks
04:36 Ponko TOASTY
04:36 wannabe1987 i know....but i'm hungry NOW
04:37 Ponko why don't you much on toast
04:37 Ponko munch*
04:37 wannabe1987 because that requires moving and going upstairs to the toaster..................
04:37 wannabe1987 Toastdude = brother, brothers != food
04:37 wannabe1987 come on now....
04:37 Ponko lol
04:37 tonsofpcs eadthem: right, but is 300,000 the mean or ?
04:38 Ponko i hoped you didn't get the innuendo and you didn't lol
04:38 Toastdude Haha
04:38 eadthem that they dont say
04:38 eadthem probably mean
04:38 tonsofpcs and what's one standard deviation?
04:38 eadthem its WD's spec  no clue
04:38 Toastdude Yes, Ponko, I'm going to GR around Christmas to the lab
04:38 tonsofpcs they need MTTF charts
04:38 wannabe1987 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local​/nw_mich/hunter-shot-by-brother-dies
04:38 BotSteve Title: Hunter shot by brother, dies | WOOD TV8
04:38 wannabe1987 .....
04:38 eadthem sense its the manufactuers you can bet they tweeked it to sute them
04:38 Ponko ok Toastdude don't break anything lol
04:39 eadthem anyhow aparently green drives park the heads after 8 seconds of inactivity  and the issue is linux systems tick the drive every 20 seconds
04:39 Toastdude Lol, except maybe shrinking a quarter, I won't do anything catastrophic :P
04:39 * tonsofpcs goes back to making jokes about card games
04:40 wannabe1987 Ponko, he's been there before....
04:40 Monkeh eadthem: And again you're getting a half-picture based on inaccurate information.
04:40 lwq1996 im going to bed...later
04:40 Ponko lol it's a joke :P
04:40 Katemonster joined #thegeekgroup
04:41 lwq1996 later ponko
04:41 lwq1996 later kate
04:41 Ponko laters lee
04:41 Katemonster bye?
04:41 lwq1996 im going to bed :P
04:41 Ponko wanna join him lol
04:41 Katemonster ...
04:41 lwq1996 me slaps ponko
04:41 lwq1996 I GOT A GIRLFRIEND
04:41 Ponko ooooooo lol
04:42 lwq1996 besides kates not my type
04:42 Katemonster like you're mine?
04:42 lwq1996 true
04:42 lwq1996 i am a boy
04:42 IsopropylAlcohol >.>
04:42 Katemonster you're a kid
04:42 Katemonster and a boy
04:42 lwq1996 lol ik
04:43 Ponko lol
04:44 wannabe1987 ...
04:45 * IsopropylAlcohol has no idea of age gaps
04:45 IsopropylAlcohol in this situation
04:46 tonsofpcs well, lwq was born in 1996...
04:46 IsopropylAlcohol and kate?
04:46 wannabe1987 lee is 14....kate is in her 20s, i assume
04:46 IsopropylAlcohol ahh
04:46 BatSteve Unrelated question:  anyone have good softwares to repair a corrupt multi-part RAR archive?
04:46 tonsofpcs not born in 1996?
04:46 tonsofpcs BatSteve: depends on the compression algorithm used
04:46 Katemonster kate is in her 24s, soon to be in her 25s
04:46 wannabe1987 kate is my age....
04:46 eadthem BatSteve  have you attempted to use 7zip?
04:46 wannabe1987 you're older tho o.O
04:47 * tonsofpcs is apparently old for this group
04:47 eadthem ive been able to open some zips with  7zip that  other stuff said was bad
04:47 * IsopropylAlcohol is not old but feels old
04:47 eadthem defantly not the same as rar however
04:47 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs, you're younger than sparky.....
04:47 tonsofpcs unrar has some command line switches to force extraction without verification iirc
04:48 tonsofpcs sparky?
04:48 eadthem seams weard to think of someone born in 1996
04:48 wannabe1987 sparkyprojects ?
04:48 wannabe1987 he's the ancient geek, at 56
04:48 tonsofpcs ah
04:48 tonsofpcs I don't see him here
04:49 Cprossu rofl
04:49 tonsofpcs and I guess yNos is older than I, but he's hiding now.
04:49 Cprossu I'm running hdtach on a 5 year old laptop hdd on a computer that's been online for 477 days straight
04:49 Cprossu funny shit! xD
04:49 eadthem the tarus that i totaled was 1996
04:49 IsopropylAlcohol Cprossu you're computers are active enough to be given birthdays
04:50 IsopropylAlcohol your*
04:50 BatSteve eadthem: my friend supposedly has tried 7zip, without success
04:50 BatSteve (I'm asking on his behalf, I don't actually have access to the supposed file)
04:50 tonsofpcs http://www.tonsofpcs.com/portable3/ is older than lee
04:50 BotSteve Title: Compaq Portable III
04:50 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: sparky is in the UK and is hopefully asleep now...
04:50 eadthem someone sugested command line winrar
04:50 tonsofpcs unrar
04:50 tonsofpcs pretty sure it has a force extract without crc option
04:51 Cprossu regular winrar works quite well
04:51 Cprossu and you can do some screwy things
04:51 tonsofpcs that said, if this is some random download, it's probably just a fake file
04:51 Cprossu if you know how to go about it
04:51 IsopropylAlcohol If the rars were from a torrent theres a chance it's missing some pieces
04:51 Cprossu fake files with exploits suck
04:51 IsopropylAlcohol which means corruption
04:51 Cprossu sometimes they just hope you rename it to a .exe
04:51 IsopropylAlcohol lol
04:51 eadthem ya i got to say rar in generals pritty robust iirc  up to 10% of the file can be repair info for fixing damage
04:52 tonsofpcs can be
04:53 wannabe1987 time to sleep!  night all!
04:53 Cprossu DAMN! lol my results failed to upload
04:53 Ponko wait one sec kell... oh bugger it
04:54 BatSteve aight, I sent him the link to the .log
04:54 BatSteve thank you guys
04:55 eadthem Cprossu  if ya open it in notepad or  better yet  akelpad  because it will handle efficantly 1GB+ files    if the first 2 letters are
04:55 eadthem MZ  its a windows exe
04:55 Ponko this convo happened last night and it was about me dropping tgg:sports channel (which is still active) <masterofmonks> But if you do be forewarned that the channel becomes open to anyone and Seroster could use it to promote homosedual olympics or something like that.
04:55 Ponko <masterofmonks> homosexual*
04:55 Ponko <Ponko> hahahaha lol well nobody would follow :P
04:55 Ponko <Ponko> anyway
04:55 Ponko <masterofmonks> You might be surprised.
04:55 Ponko * Seroster (~Seroster@31-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) has joined #tgg:sports
04:55 Ponko <Seroster> I SUCK A LOT OF ****
04:55 Ponko * Seroster (~Seroster@31-226-96-87.cust.blixtvik.se) has left #tgg:sports ("Parted: Grelsnurk")
04:55 tonsofpcs ....
04:56 eadthem err  dos is MZ   windows will be a PE or NE futher up the file
04:56 Ponko sorry for that but the timing was priceless
04:56 tonsofpcs eadthem: this is why we have the "file" tool ;)
04:56 tonsofpcs seroster likes sucking (loli)pops?
04:56 Cprossu http://oi41.tinypic.com/fyjtc0.jpg
04:57 tonsofpcs .8 MBps too fast, Cprossu
04:57 Ponko lol well i censored it because well that's NSFW
04:57 BatSteve My friend got it fixed, and thanks the channel for your help, especially eadthem and tonsofpcs
04:58 BatSteve and Cprossu
04:58 Ponko Cprossu you have to admire the timing of Serosters arrival
04:58 tonsofpcs BatSteve: what worked?
05:00 BatSteve some tool called par-n-rar, apparently?
05:01 eadthem hey btw anyone else herd of apache needing a folder to have execute rights to serve it up ?
05:01 tonsofpcs yes
05:01 astro73|alice eadthem: that sounds right, for autoindex? Execute on a directory means listing
05:01 BatSteve yes
05:01 Monkeh eadthem: .. Directories need the execute bit set, yes.
05:01 eadthem files dont ?
05:01 Monkeh Only if you want to execute them.
05:02 Monkeh Basic unix..
05:02 eadthem the listing i knew
05:02 eadthem how do you set a folder to list  but the files as no execute    by default for all new files
05:02 * IsopropylAlcohol runs hd tach
05:03 Cprossu http://oi41.tinypic.com/4rx9fs.jpg
05:03 Cprossu hahahah
05:03 Cprossu poor little drive
05:03 astro73|alice i think usually software does the right thing for setting X on directories and files
05:03 sndwrx schwell.
05:03 Cprossu IsopropylAlcohol: 'smart' data for that drive
05:03 Cprossu rofl
05:03 IsopropylAlcohol lol
05:05 tonsofpcs S.M.A.R.T (just like any of the agencies in GET SMART)
05:06 astro73|alice smart, S M R T?
05:06 eadthem thats my issue with smart     airflow temp   current 55   temp says 45C   data says  891551789
05:06 Ponko 3 words that describe you. not good at math
05:07 eadthem none of it dose a lot of good without the right manufactures specific context
05:07 BatSteve tonsofpcs: KAOS and KONTROL ?
05:07 eadthem mmm accualy now i see C2 temp
05:08 Cprossu yeah C2 is what the drive actually is.
05:08 eadthem so then whats aiflow
05:08 Ponko my joke got nothing? lol
05:08 eadthem inside the drive
05:08 tonsofpcs BatSteve: quite a few more than that, but yea ;)
05:08 Cprossu heavens I hope not.
05:09 eadthem would it be shocking to think the insides are 10c hotter than the thermistor SMT mounted to the controller card
05:09 Cprossu I would love to know how many hours are on my 425 megger
05:10 Cprossu kinda neat that this laptop drive has over 2 years and 9 months of just running time
05:10 Ponko ok you're birthday next year BatSteve (that's if it's still active of course) you'll be a mod for a yeard exactly how do you like them apples
05:11 BatSteve :D
05:11 BatSteve Awsm!
05:11 Ponko :P lol that's why you weren't an op till after midnight
05:12 Ponko on tgg:sports channel btw peeps
05:16 Cprossu gonna go look at the travelstar in my other lappy lol
05:18 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/windowsSMART.png
05:19 IsopropylAlcohol http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/sa​shi_photo/Computer%20Data/hdtunest9500.jpg
05:19 eadthem i mean to me that alwase seamed like a clean smart list    beside C5 and C6
05:19 IsopropylAlcohol http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q285/sa​shi_photo/Computer%20Data/hdtachst9500.jpg
05:22 Cprossu amazing the difference a few years make
05:22 Cprossu http://oi43.tinypic.com/23mmu6h.jpg
05:22 Cprossu http://oi44.tinypic.com/auwjd0.jpg
05:27 BatSteve All right, I've gotta be at work in 6 hours.  Have a good night everyone
05:29 eadthem almost same  cya
05:29 Cprossu lol night
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05:34 Ponko night everyone
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05:45 Isopropyl|Media http://i139.photobucket.com/albums​/q285/sashi_photo/Computer%20Data/​Radio%20Computer/hdtachwd800jb.jpg
05:46 Isopropyl|Media http://i139.photobucket.com/albums​/q285/sashi_photo/Computer%20Data/​Radio%20Computer/hdtachwd800bb.jpg
05:46 Isopropyl|Media http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q​285/sashi_photo/Computer%20Data/Radi​o%20Computer/hdtunewd800jbandbb.jpg
06:33 Cheezmo_Skyrim Isopropyl|Media, I think your HDD is bork
06:33 IsopropylAlcohol a bit
06:33 IsopropylAlcohol yet the computer survives 5 years
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07:33 Hackbat WEIRD D:
07:34 tehdark45 Wats weird?
07:34 Hackbat every 61 minutes my alram clock makes a static noise
07:34 Hackbat I think it got hit by lightning
07:34 IsopropylAlcohol is your cellphone near it?
07:34 tehdark45 61. Thats a weird interval
07:35 IsopropylAlcohol i know my speakers in my alarm clock pop and hiss when my cell phone updates
07:35 Hackbat no
07:36 Hackbat it's got perfect time too
07:36 Monkeh Well, KDE4's crap.
07:36 Hackbat 2:36 like my pc says
07:37 tehdark45 The best way i can write the cellphone noise is vvvvvv dik dik dik
07:37 tehdark45 lol
07:37 tehdark45 What bad about it Monkeh?
07:38 Hackbat no this is the I changed radio channels buzz noise
07:38 IsopropylAlcohol odd
07:43 Seroster Very odd
07:44 Seroster And amusing
07:44 Seroster =)
07:44 Monkeh tehdark45: Oh, it suffers from all the stupidity of KDE3, with being unusably slow piled on top.
07:45 tehdark45 Ah
07:46 Monkeh They can blame it on drivers all they like, but if they choose to exclude a huge number of users because they're unwilling to work around things for the time being, they lose me.
07:46 IsopropylAlcohol ahh another youtube adventure. I went from solar panels, to solar water heaters, to pool heaters, to homemade boilers, and now to rocket stoves
07:46 IsopropylAlcohol wonder whats next
07:46 Seroster Rocket stoves?
07:46 Seroster Sweet.
07:48 tehdark45 Isopropyl|a
07:48 IsopropylAlcohol lol this dummy is making one with galvanized materials
07:49 tehdark45 IsopropylAlcohol LOLCats
07:50 * MadManMarkAu wonders when they are going to fix the name of TGG's radio stream
07:50 MadManMarkAu Grrk Group Radio
07:51 tehdark45 Grrk group sounds fun
07:52 MadManMarkAu Sounds like someone choking :P
07:52 MadManMarkAu Grrrk! x_x
07:52 MadManMarkAu I just with our gateway machine didn't munge the stream so bad it won't play
07:53 tehdark45 no chocking is aivueiasdfqwerty X_X
07:53 MadManMarkAu ...I can't even pronounce that :P
07:54 tehdark45 eh view asdf qwerty
07:54 tehdark45 there you go
07:54 MadManMarkAu heh
07:54 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 11-16-11 Camera Mounts, CNC Class, How to Mop, Lights, and Fun http://youtu.be/9OaDV-2F9nY
07:55 tehdark45 wooo new vids
07:55 tehdark45 I read it as how to mop lights. I was like O_o wut??
07:55 tehdark45 lolol
07:56 IsopropylAlcohol i need acess to a welder http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​Iru8ikDCQO0&amp;feature=related
07:56 BotSteve Title: smallest Rocket stove you can buy. DK rocket stove - YouTube
07:56 MadManMarkAu Oh god, this is horrifying
07:56 IsopropylAlcohol access*
07:56 MadManMarkAu Having to play the stream over remote desktop, because of the gateway blocking it
07:57 MadManMarkAu The skipping, wow and flutter is terrifying :P
07:57 MadManMarkAu It seems Remote Desktop adjusts the sample rate to try to play back continuously while smoothing out network jitter :P
07:59 tehdark45 IsopropylAlcohol, go ask Joe Simon :P
08:03 IsopropylAlcohol now i went from stoves to raised garden beds o.0
08:05 IsopropylAlcohol thats neat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​EQ8RFlR0mD4&amp;feature=related
08:05 BotSteve Title: Slug control - The 9-Volt Solution - YouTube
08:13 killakee good morning
08:15 Seroster Hello/goodbye =)
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08:19 iSasha Hey there guys. I need to find a good research question for my experiment. My topic is "Balls and/or Rubber bands". My best idea was "The affect of temperature on the elasticity of squash balls". Any ideas?
08:20 Seroster HA
08:20 Seroster BALLS and rubber bands
08:20 Seroster Talk about castration of sheep
08:20 Seroster =)
08:20 Seroster I gotta leave for school
08:21 Seroster cay
08:22 iSasha What does castration of sheep have anything to do with this
08:25 IsopropylAlcohol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​ezbzM2xX5Mg&amp;feature=related
08:25 BotSteve Title: Chinese mantis eating centipede ;) - YouTube
08:31 iSasha Guys?
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09:49 Monkeh yaaaay, free stuff
10:13 Sgt_Lemming sigh, for some reason one of the NICs on my server has stopped responding...
10:14 Sgt_Lemming comes up "link is not ready" when the cable is plugged in
10:14 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: PHY failure
10:14 Sgt_Lemming other nic works fine though...
10:14 Monkeh Or a bad cable
10:14 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, other nic works fine with the same cable >_<
10:15 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: See first option
10:15 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Me, I just got my free SFP module.
10:16 Sgt_Lemming not bad
10:16 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Am I the only one who finds that lever really annoying?
10:16 Sgt_Lemming lever?
10:17 Monkeh The little extraction lever which gets in the way.
10:17 Sgt_Lemming eh
10:20 * Monkeh wonders what's wrong with the bonding module
10:20 Monkeh Slave Interface: eth0
10:20 Monkeh MII Status: up
10:20 Monkeh Speed: 100 Mbps
10:20 Monkeh # ethtool eth0 | grep Speed
10:20 Monkeh 12:Speed: 1000Mb/s
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10:29 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: That aside, free SFP module for buying a switch FTW
10:29 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, it's a software issue
10:29 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yeah, just annoying.
10:29 Sgt_Lemming installing ubuntu server on the machine atm using that NIC
10:29 Monkeh Ah
10:29 Monkeh Hm
10:29 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: What type of NIC?
10:29 Sgt_Lemming broadcom something
10:29 Monkeh Odd
10:29 Monkeh Broadcom is normally fine
10:30 Monkeh Now I can show you this sort of thing all over the shop with realtek NICs
10:30 Monkeh Sometimes the Linux driver just will not bring them up properly
10:42 * masterofmonks wanders around the channel spraying Seroster^Away.
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11:46 MadManMarkAu LLLLLOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL
11:46 MadManMarkAu On YouTUBE, clicked "Report a Bug", the page loads and says "An error has occurred. We are sorry but we were not able to capture your feedback."
11:46 killaway^shop lool
11:48 Sgt_Lemming lol
12:06 Vladdeh are you opening the link in a new window?
12:06 Vladdeh they have a weird system where you have to stay on the page and select the area where the problem is
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13:06 killakee woho got a multimeter that can mesure up to 30 kv :D
13:07 tgg|yNos hiy'all
13:08 killakee haya ynos
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13:15 BotSteve Cookies, Sandwiches, Skittles, Oh my!
13:18 wannabe1987 do i have a greeting in place now?
13:23 killakee hi wannabe :)
13:23 wannabe1987 hi killakee
13:23 killakee got your own greeting? cool :D
13:24 wannabe1987 looks like it, i dno't know tho
13:24 killakee looked like it :)
13:24 wannabe1987 cool
13:25 wannabe1987 means i'm awesome, yo
13:25 killakee for shizzle
13:25 killakee XD
13:28 killakee i will start caling you: your royal awesomeness ::)
13:29 wannabe1987 no thanks.  thats too long
13:29 tgg|yNos grr
13:30 killakee whats up ynos ?
13:30 tgg|yNos fot muthafckin white shit falling from the sky
13:30 tgg|yNos ERRDONOTWANT
13:30 wannabe1987 agreed
13:31 tgg|yNos but, with snow comes ice!
13:31 wannabe1987 ICE IS BAD
13:31 wannabe1987 with ice i keep crashing cars!
13:31 killakee hehe be VERY glad you dont live here ;)
13:31 wannabe1987 i'm pretty sure i'd be a better driver :P I was thinking the same w/ alaska...
13:32 wannabe1987 or they'd get me a truck or something....
13:32 tgg|yNos and ICE gets redneck motorcyclists out on the ice!
13:32 tgg|yNos i like riding on the ice.
13:32 tgg|yNos it makes you plan
13:32 killakee yes thats the good thing abuote the cold :)
13:33 tgg|yNos i just want the ice, could take or leave the snow
13:34 killakee hehe.. thats not so easy to do something abuote :D
13:34 tgg|yNos killakee, do you have motorcycle ice racing there?
13:35 wannabe1987 .in 15minutes .
13:35 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 13:50Z
13:35 killakee yes we do
13:35 tgg|yNos do you get into it?
13:35 killakee when it freezes on the big lakes and waters
13:36 killakee well im only driving old beatenup cars :)
13:36 tgg|yNos osame here.. my 12 yeaar old s-10 gets me around just fine.
13:36 killakee as long as its rearweel drive its fun :D
13:36 tgg|yNos my ice bike is a 79 sr-500
13:37 killakee sweet
13:37 tgg|yNos s-10 is a small truck ;)
13:37 tgg|yNos rwd
13:37 killakee bet that goes like stink :)
13:37 tgg|yNos it does ok
13:38 tgg|yNos the 450 hondas and the 500 kawi 2 strokes smoke me though
13:38 killakee love 2 strokes :)
13:38 tgg|yNos i like to ride them, sucks doing rings every year
13:39 killakee yeah i know
13:39 tgg|yNos the sr-500 just needs regular oil changes, and occasionaly new handlebars ;)
13:40 killakee my old suzuki was not pleasant with the rings ..
13:40 killakee hehe
13:40 tgg|yNos i had a few suzukis growing up
13:40 tgg|yNos ts-125/185/250
13:40 tgg|yNos they were farm bikes.
13:40 tgg|yNos just got rid of the 125 a few years ago.
13:41 tgg|yNos couldnt kill that thing.
13:41 tgg|yNos rings and a hone every year or so
13:41 killakee oh i had a zr :)
13:41 tgg|yNos at one point i had pannier racks on the sides to carry 4 bales of hay ;)
13:42 killakee HAHA.. epic
13:42 killakee 4 bales of hay driving down the road :)
13:43 tgg|yNos nah, to the back field.
13:43 killakee ah..
13:43 tgg|yNos there is a guy who lives outside of town that goes to the feed mill a few times a month that has a honda hobbit.
13:43 tgg|yNos rucus
13:43 tgg|yNos not hobbit
13:44 tgg|yNos and carries a bale of hay for his rabbits
13:44 tgg|yNos looks goofy as hell
13:44 tgg|yNos damn drunk lost his drivers lic though..
13:44 killakee hehe
13:45 killakee drinking and driving are always a "good" idea
13:50 BotSteve wannabe1987: .
13:51 killakee wannabe how do you get botsteve to remind you of stuff ?
13:51 wannabe1987 use .in
13:51 killakee tnx
13:51 wannabe1987 .in 12seconds say ahhhhhh
13:51 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind in 12 secs
13:52 BotSteve wannabe1987: say ahhhhhh
13:52 wannabe1987 but killakee you have to put the hours/days next to the number
13:52 killakee ahhhhh
13:52 killakee jepp i got it :)
13:53 wannabe1987 ok....like directly next to....some people don't :P
13:53 wannabe1987 .in 500years remind killakee LOL
13:53 BotSteve wannabe1987: That's a bit unlikely, don't you think?
13:54 wannabe1987 awwww
13:54 killakee .in 12seconds say wakkawakk
13:54 BotSteve killakee: Okay, will remind in 12 secs
13:54 killakee weeeeeh :D
13:54 BotSteve killakee: say wakkawakk
13:54 killakee good bot :)
13:55 killakee here have a cockie
13:55 wannabe1987 .pie killakee
13:55 BotSteve Here you go, killakee, I made you a cherry pie!
13:56 killakee haha
13:57 wannabe1987 my computer was in the car (my laptop) overnight....its ICE cold now :(
13:59 killakee cold cpu then ;)
13:59 wannabe1987 yeah
13:59 wannabe1987 runs better
14:00 wannabe1987 but its used for internet and word processing for now
14:00 killakee ah..
14:01 dbshortwave i should change up the ram again on this machine
14:02 wannabe1987 why
14:02 killakee how mutch you got ?
14:04 dbshortwave 1.5
14:04 dbshortwave if i change it up with this other computer ill have 2
14:04 * wannabe1987 steals the 1 so she has2 now :D
14:05 dbshortwave i should have just left it at 2
14:05 dbshortwave what kinda machine you have?
14:05 dbshortwave is it a laptop?
14:05 wannabe1987 netbook and a laptop, both at 1
14:05 dbshortwave wannabe1987?
14:05 wannabe1987 slow mouse...hold on!
14:05 dbshortwave whats the mhz on the stick?
14:05 wannabe1987 shrug
14:06 killakee i only have 12gb :/
14:06 wannabe1987 aka dunno
14:06 dbshortwave msg me for a sec
14:08 sndwrx mornin'
14:08 wannabe1987 hi
14:09 sndwrx I'm guessing the netbook is DDR2 and depending on age of laptop, chances are good it's DDR2 also.  :)
14:10 wannabe1987 .in 14hours remind look at RAMsticks on the laptop (need screwdriver)
14:10 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind on 18 Nov 2011 at 04:10Z
14:11 dbshortwave lol
14:11 wannabe1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2011/​11/this-is-official-blog-entry-for.html
14:11 BotSteve Title: Phood in your face: Scholarship Entry
14:11 sndwrx Doesn't Everest display RAM type?
14:11 sndwrx I mean there are plenty of simple ways to find out what kind of RAM it is.
14:11 sndwrx What models are the laptop and netbook?
14:12 wannabe1987 its a dell latituede D810
14:12 sndwrx DDR2
14:13 sndwrx What is the service tag ID for it?
14:13 wannabe1987 c40xq91
14:14 killakee why cant you gys have metric like us :P
14:15 sndwrx 1.86GHz Pentium M, 80GB HDD, 128MB ATi graphics card, and 2x 512MB DDR2
14:15 sndwrx I don't know if you have one or two RAM slots.  One of those 512MB may be soldered to the board.
14:17 wannabe1987 but i could take the one 512 out and put a 1gb in its spot, no?
14:18 sndwrx K, so as is typical it looks like there is a RAM slot under the keyboard and one under the chassis.
14:18 wannabe1987 serious? under the keyboard?
14:18 sndwrx Yeah... It's pretty common.
14:18 sndwrx Especially with Dell.
14:18 sndwrx Most Dell are easy to get under the keyboard, though.
14:18 wannabe1987 seems like a stupid spot to put it tho
14:19 sndwrx Kinda, but consider all the stuff they have to cram in.  Hard to find a logical place for everything.
14:19 wannabe1987 yeah
14:19 sndwrx Plus I think it's a ploy to get people to pay additional for upgrades.
14:19 sndwrx For those feint of heart and not willing to "hack up" their computer.
14:19 wannabe1987 lol
14:20 sndwrx So what's the netbook?
14:20 wannabe1987 toshiba nb205
14:21 sndwrx NB205-????
14:21 wannabe1987 all it says is nb205 on the machine
14:21 sndwrx I mean configuration on any of them is going to be similar enough but what is the full model number?
14:21 sndwrx On the underside, maybe the FCC sticker or something?
14:22 wannabe1987 n325bl
14:22 sndwrx Thanks
14:22 wannabe1987 mhm
14:22 wannabe1987 dbshortwave you should look up there ^^ my ram for the laptop is mentioned
14:23 sndwrx 1.66GHz Atom N280 processor, 1GB DDR2 533MHz, 160GB HDD
14:23 sndwrx Pretty typical netbook specs.
14:23 sndwrx So, yeah.  DDR2 533MHz for both of them.
14:23 dbshortwave ok
14:24 dbshortwave hang on let me get this stick and doublecheck
14:24 wannabe1987 .in 45min wake up jason
14:24 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 15:09Z
14:24 wannabe1987 laptop has .2 more gigahertz than the netbook :P
14:25 sndwrx I didn't look closely, but there's probably a difference in FSB speeds and amount of cache too, though.
14:25 sndwrx mornin' Seroster
14:25 wannabe1987 yeah
14:25 wannabe1987 hi Seroster
14:25 Seroster Aftrenoon sndwrx
14:25 Seroster Hello there wannabe1987
14:26 wannabe1987 hows you?
14:26 Seroster Cant tell ya in this room
14:26 wannabe1987 awwww
14:27 sndwrx wannabe1987: You'll want to open up the RAM panel on the bottom of the Toshiba to verify that slot is free.
14:27 wannabe1987 don't have a screwdriver :(
14:27 wannabe1987 wait
14:27 wannabe1987 there might be one in the car...
14:28 wannabe1987 i was gonna dual boot this compooper (netbook) today....
14:29 wannabe1987 windows 7 home premium (which i have) and jollicloud
14:32 * wannabe1987 runs to the car for a screwdriver
14:36 sndwrx wannabe1987: Why Jolicloud?
14:38 sndwrx mornin' killakee
14:38 killakee mornin
14:38 killakee :)
14:40 killakee or midday here ;)
14:41 wannabe1987 why not? its realllllyl light. ubuntu doesn't seem to want to be applied to the netbook
14:41 wannabe1987 netbook seems to only have one slot
14:41 sndwrx Have you played around with Jolicloud to know you'll like it?
14:41 wannabe1987 yeah
14:41 sndwrx But yeah Ubuntu is pretty bloated.
14:41 wannabe1987 i have on the web based
14:41 sndwrx k
14:41 wannabe1987 and someone remoted me into theirs
14:41 sndwrx Well as long as you like it.
14:41 wannabe1987 i think it was astro
14:42 sndwrx I'm sure it goes without saying, but be sure to back up anything important from the Toshiba's HDD just in case anything should go awry during installation.
14:43 wannabe1987 did that last night....
14:43 sndwrx Have you tried putting Ubuntu on with WUBI?
14:43 wannabe1987 then i added more music
14:43 wannabe1987 and so i have to back that up :P
14:43 wannabe1987 WUBI?  my friend tried ubuntu (different kinds) for 2 days....
14:43 sndwrx It's a hokey solution compared to true dual-boot, but it works pretty well (until you do a kernel upgrade).
14:43 sndwrx Yeah WUBI is pretty slick for those afraid to mess with partitions and a different boot loader.
14:44 wannabe1987 ahhhh
14:44 sndwrx Windows Ubuntu Installer.
14:44 wannabe1987 well, first i have to figure out how to partition :P
14:44 sndwrx It creates a file container in the Windows partition and installs Ubtunu to it.  Then it adds Ubuntu to Windows' standard boot manager.
14:44 wannabe1987 cool
14:45 sndwrx If Ubuntu breaks, no harm done to Windows and/or partitions.
14:45 sndwrx If you don't want Ubuntu anymore, go into Windows' add/remove programs and wipe it out.
14:45 sndwrx Clean and simple.
14:45 wannabe1987 sounds cool
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14:46 sndwrx Like I said, it's kind of hokey compared to a true dual-boot, but it's excellent for those looking to dabble without potentially destroying their Windows install.
14:46 sndwrx I've used WUBI to convert many a person for a few years now.
14:46 wannabe1987 hmmmm theres 29gb free on the HDD....think i'll need more room?
14:47 wannabe1987 actually, i need to remove some music....
14:48 sndwrx Nice thing about linux is that it can mount the Windows partition and access/store things there.
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14:48 sndwrx So I generally make my linux partition (ha, as if I've used Windows within the last few years)
14:48 sndwrx Anyway, I make linux partitions slightly larger than is needed to operate and add some extra software.
14:48 Seroster RIGHT
14:49 sndwrx I don't account for storing documents, music, videos etc. into my linux partitions.
14:49 wannabe1987 no?
14:49 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla​yer_detailpage&amp;v=9OaDV-2F9nY#t=811s  < Thats my new computer desk =D
14:49 sndwrx Nope.
14:49 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 11-16-11 Camera Mounts, CNC Class, How to Mop, Lights, and Fun - YouTube
14:50 sndwrx Just keep everything stored on your Windows partition and let Linux have enough space for its OS and some software.
14:50 wannabe1987 hmmm
14:51 wannabe1987 so linux can access everything  on the windows side?
14:51 sndwrx Seroster: The toilet is your desk?
14:51 sndwrx Yep.
14:51 Seroster ERm
14:51 Seroster wallpaper
14:51 Seroster Captain with his foot up on the toilet cover with a mop in it
14:52 astro73|mal ... how come i can't type a colon?
14:52 wannabe1987 :
14:52 sndwrx However Windows won't be able to access the linux partition.  So keep that in mind when you're saving things.
14:52 wannabe1987 copypasta!
14:52 astro73|mal wannabe1987, not actually helpful
14:52 sndwrx Seroster: haha
14:52 wannabe1987 awwww
14:53 astro73|mal oh, it's my shift key that's broken
14:53 wannabe1987 ....
14:53 wannabe1987 brb
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14:53 zombie1987 that mouse was pissing me off
14:53 zombie1987 so i switched computers
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14:55 wannabe1987 hi Phu\
14:59 tgg|yNos anyone else subscribe to QST?
15:02 killaway^skyrim qst?
15:03 tgg|yNos a han radio magazine published by the ARRL
15:03 tgg|yNos **ham
15:03 killakee ah..
15:04 tgg|yNos they had a cool article about a simple 2 watt ttl transmitter.. just found the companion rx for it.. to make a xcvr.. http://www.aa1tj.com/80mTTLRcvr.pdf
15:09 BotSteve wannabe1987: wake up jason
15:09 wannabe1987 thx BotSteve
15:09 BotSteve You're welcome, wannabe1987
15:09 Cprossu hey all
15:09 wannabe1987 hi Cprossu
15:09 Cprossu tgg|yNos: pm
15:09 * Cprossu has to go find his glasses brb
15:12 * Electricguy got a cold!
15:12 Electricguy fucking sux
15:12 wannabe1987 here, have a warm!
15:12 wannabe1987 .c 48inches to feet
15:12 BotSteve 4 feet
15:13 Cprossu sweet found em
15:17 * exor674 hugs wannabe1987 in the hug!
15:18 wannabe1987 o.O
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15:20 wannabe1987 hi westmi
15:20 * killakee dont want to make more magic blue smoke ennymore :(
15:20 westmi sup
15:20 westmi wannabe1987,
15:21 westmi how is your car?
15:21 westmi doing?
15:23 Cprossu killakee: awwww
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15:24 dbshortwave massive hardware fail
15:25 Cprossu what now dbshortwave?
15:25 dbshortwave this thing stopped reading the one CPU
15:26 dbshortwave removed everything but 1 cpu
15:26 Cprossu o_o
15:26 dbshortwave not only that but lost my other k/b
15:26 Cprossu what system? that's damn weird
15:26 dbshortwave its a dell precision 450
15:27 dbshortwave it may have been the vr board
15:27 Cprossu we had a strange issue like that on mooses' computer
15:27 Cprossu which is why I scrounged to replace it's parts
15:27 dbshortwave best thing to do is pull everything
15:28 dbshortwave dust on one of the CPU legs will cause it too
15:28 Cprossu check for blown VRM's
15:28 killakee <dbshortwave> as long as you dont make blue smoke of it :/
15:28 dbshortwave yeah no bluesmike
15:28 dbshortwave somke*
15:28 dbshortwave damnit
15:28 Cprossu those power supplies are a real pain in the ass though dbshortwave
15:28 dbshortwave smoke
15:28 dbshortwave yeah i know
15:29 dbshortwave fkn thing isnt a lightweight
15:29 Cprossu and it's in a shitty spot
15:29 Cprossu I had 4 precision 450's, each had the same part number on the PSU, all were different
15:29 dbshortwave its really thin too
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15:30 Cprossu as in so different they even had different cabling sets
15:30 dbshortwave wow
15:30 Cprossu and different wiring colors
15:30 Cprossu I didn't chance it for obvious reason
15:30 * dbshortwave nods
15:31 Cprossu the whole cascade of evil started when one of the psu fans failed
15:31 Cprossu btw
15:31 Cprossu and it wasn't because the fan was bad or dead
15:31 dbshortwave the main reason why the k/b died is due to the fact that its gone airborn a few times
15:31 Cprossu it wasn't getting power
15:32 * killakee wiches a linux you can game on :/
15:33 dbshortwave they both are going
15:33 * Cprossu wonders if it will take a 'witch'
15:33 dbshortwave im calling it a fluke
15:33 * Cprossu notices that Dell is slang for "Box of flukes"
15:33 killakee alien whare then ?
15:33 killakee ware
15:34 killakee expensive box of flukes
15:34 dbshortwave lol but i have to say this machine has been ok not a whole lot of 'issues
15:34 Cprossu The new alienwhore's you'll have a part failure on, and it will be replaced with a defective part after defective part
15:35 killakee <Cprossu> not with my friends ..
15:35 Cprossu I suppose you _could_ get licky
15:35 Cprossu *lucky
15:35 killakee hehe yes like with everything
15:35 Cprossu the older ones were mostly solid, but still built with low grade parts
15:35 Cprossu alienware had a tendency back then to buy defective lots of parts
15:36 Cprossu and then sell it for a premium
15:36 killakee thats smart
15:36 dbshortwave brb i need to reinstall the hard drives
15:37 killakee well trying skyrim again.. better not shut down again windblows :S
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15:42 Cprossu wb dbshortwave
15:42 wannabe1987 sndwrx what were you talking about for ubuntu and windows?
15:44 dbshortwave TY
15:44 dbshortwave now this thing is ok
15:44 * dbshortwave shrugs
15:44 dbshortwave dunno
15:45 Cprossu weird.
15:45 wannabe1987 PETA is going after mario brothers because mario wore at tanooki suit....
15:45 Cprossu yeah I heard that
15:45 dbshortwave ROFLMAO
15:45 Cprossu but I heard there was a weird commercial too
15:45 Cprossu .yt mario tanooki commercial
15:45 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6j9LZ6VsiI
15:45 wannabe1987 http://features.peta.org/mario-kills-tanooki/
15:45 BotSteve Title: Mario Kills Tanooki | PETA.org
15:45 Cprossu fail.
15:46 Cprossu .yt command fails yet again
15:46 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8jStjdznIk
15:46 Cprossu oh god.
15:46 * dbshortwave gorans
15:46 dbshortwave so mario is a furry
15:46 dbshortwave big deal
15:46 dbshortwave lol
15:47 wannabe1987 whats PETA's possition on furrys?
15:48 Cprossu PETA is a bunch of furrys
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15:48 captain Ynos, are you at the lab?
15:48 dbshortwave do they show mario skinning a racoon?
15:48 wannabe1987 tgg|yNos
15:49 Cprossu he is at the lab but he hasn't checked irc in a while I think
15:49 tgg|yNos i am here
15:49 Cprossu rofl.
15:49 wannabe1987 captain was looking for you
15:49 tgg|yNos i am bouncing around, doing steelcase stuff, doing tgg stuff.
15:49 Cprossu he needs to be more patient
15:50 wannabe1987 lol yes
15:50 Cprossu I was writing a txt to you yNos rofl
15:50 Cprossu then he quit
15:50 tonsofpcs hey, egrsteve|away - I just looked in a 10XL Maintenance manual
15:51 Cprossu a what?
15:51 tonsofpcs GVG 10XL
15:51 Cprossu I didn't think we had one of those
15:53 Cprossu did we just get one in tonsofpcs??
15:53 tonsofpcs you dont
15:53 tgg|yNos just re-found my phone... i forgot it up in the board room..
15:54 tgg|yNos fumbduck
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15:54 tonsofpcs Cprossu: the 10XL is in a similar line to the 20TEN (and TEN20 and ...)
15:54 Cprossu so it has that 3 wire control?
15:54 tonsofpcs steve was hoping that the serial interface dip switches would be similar, etc.
15:55 Cprossu ahhhh
15:55 Cprossu i c
15:55 tonsofpcs The 10XL(M?) has a serial option board.  I have full specs for the control system.  The 10XLs do not appear to be independently addressable, you want to talk to it you plug your control system into it.
15:55 tonsofpcs default control is parallel and BCD+Take
15:55 tonsofpcs (10XL = 10 in, 1 out)
15:56 tonsofpcs I actually have two BCD rotary switches hooked up at 1" decks that apparently used to (still do?) control 10XLs to choose feed sources
15:57 wannabe1987 whats taking up so much room on my computer?!
15:58 SparkyProjects wannabe1987: Do you mean disk space or resources ?
15:58 wannabe1987 disk space....
15:58 wannabe1987 theres no tv or video on there....
15:59 Cprossu sure there is wannabe1987 it's just hidden
15:59 wannabe1987 nope...i don't hide files
15:59 Cprossu OS is @ wannabe1987?
15:59 * wannabe1987 is a good girl
15:59 Cprossu wannabe1987 the internet hides it on your hdd
15:59 Cprossu in temp folders
15:59 wannabe1987 windows 7 home prem
16:00 wannabe1987 but i run ccleaner, doesn't that get rid of them?
16:00 Cprossu then point yourself to C:\Users\your username\local settings\
16:00 Cprossu and check out temp and temp internet files
16:01 wannabe1987 theres no "local settings" under my user name
16:01 wannabe1987 ....
16:01 Cprossu and it may help you if it's not already to go to your folder options menu and to hit view, and make sure you 'show hidden files and folders'
16:01 Cprossu wannabe1987 there is, it's just hidden.
16:03 wannabe1987 all that did was show me an "appdata" folder
16:03 dbshortwave time to squeeze the old lady back into her spot
16:03 Cprossu o_O
16:04 dbshortwave and plug in the stereo an sirius recever
16:04 tonsofpcs seriously?
16:04 dbshortwave yep
16:05 Cprossu wannabe1987 go to appdata and local
16:05 Cprossu or put this
16:05 Cprossu %localappdata%
16:05 Cprossu into your address bar
16:05 wannabe1987 i found a folder called temp
16:05 Cprossu and press enter
16:05 Cprossu how much shit is in it wannabe1987? right click folder properties
16:05 tgg|yNos anyone know when AJ prog is going to be back?
16:06 Cprossu where did he go this time?
16:06 wannabe1987 24 files 27 folders, 1.32MB
16:06 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve!
16:07 BatSteve hi wannabe1987!
16:07 Cprossu k then keep searching elsewhere
16:07 tgg|yNos Not sure, i think back to ny
16:07 Cprossu and put %localappdata% into your address bar
16:07 wannabe1987 on the internet?
16:08 wannabe1987 o
16:08 wannabe1987 stupid piece of crap computer
16:08 dbshortwave i need some wire loom
16:09 dbshortwave its not the hardware's fault
16:09 dbshortwave its the OS's fault
16:09 wannabe1987 no, its running REALLY slowly, the mouse takes 2 minutes to go anywhere.
16:09 wannabe1987 its why i switched the internet and irc to the laptop
16:10 dbshortwave mm
16:10 Cprossu all right then do this
16:10 wannabe1987 its currently uploading songs to google music....
16:10 Cprossu do a search for files and folders wannabe1987
16:10 Cprossu do adv options
16:10 Cprossu size
16:11 Cprossu at least 100000 kb
16:11 wannabe1987 search?
16:11 Cprossu seriously wannabe1987?
16:11 wannabe1987 i have the search bar in the windows menu
16:12 wannabe1987 i know where search is in xp, but i'm using 7 on the computer
16:12 Cprossu fine type size:>100
16:12 Cprossu into the search box
16:17 tgg|yNos found out why he wanted me here..
16:17 tgg|yNos someone is coming with a donation.
16:17 wannabe1987 ah
16:17 tgg|yNos angy!
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16:19 wannabe1987 hi mom-mobile!
16:19 mom-mobile Spatula
16:22 SparkyProjects Meteor shower tonight http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/s​cience-environment-15775514
16:22 BotSteve Title: BBC News - Meteor sky show set to reach peak
16:24 SparkyProjects If it's not cloudy i should get a good view, my back window faces east over a mountain, and very little light pollution
16:25 dbshortwave erry ting is back
16:25 wannabe1987 :D
16:26 dbshortwave freaky
16:26 dbshortwave i was sweattin
16:26 wannabe1987 o.O
16:26 dbshortwave worried, like 'oh no my tower just went -rasberrys-'
16:27 wannabe1987 saw your status
16:27 dbshortwave yeah it was massive
16:27 dbshortwave lol
16:27 wannabe1987 you  have another keyvoard?
16:27 wannabe1987 board*
16:28 dbshortwave yeah
16:28 dbshortwave i need a nicer one then this one
16:28 dbshortwave i wouldnt mind a Dell one that has the media knob on it or a gyration
16:29 wannabe1987 gyration?
16:29 dbshortwave yeah
16:29 dbshortwave its a good wireless mouse / keyboard kit
16:30 dbshortwave something i will care NOT to throw when im pissed off lol
16:31 dbshortwave 30foot oporation
16:31 dbshortwave 2.4 ghz
16:33 Cprossu lol
16:34 Cprossu I find it's more like 10ft if you have a home theater. (at least bluetooth seems to work well for those, minus the pairing bullshit)
16:35 * dbshortwave nods
16:35 dbshortwave im just sick of wires and bullshit like that
16:36 dbshortwave i nee dmore room for other goodies
16:40 dbshortwave gottarun
16:42 angy tgg|yNos!
16:42 * angy fondles all over Seroster, for a very long time
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16:49 wannabe1987 killakee
16:49 wannabe1987 i saw skyrim being played today
16:50 wannabe1987 "its not going to hurt your jacket" no, but it will make it smell like smoke.  ewwwww
16:52 wannabe1987 BotSteve: ask ponko what is this madness?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur​e=player_embedded&amp;v=cDpRMhqHtc8
16:52 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when ponko is around.
16:52 BotSteve Title: The Plough Roundabout - Hemel Hempstead, in Hertfordshire, England - YouTube
16:53 killakee skyrim is adictive just like e juice :D
16:53 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur​e=player_embedded&amp;v=cDpRMhqHtc8 OMG SO MANY PEOPLE
16:53 BotSteve Title: The Plough Roundabout - Hemel Hempstead, in Hertfordshire, England - YouTube
16:53 wannabe1987 wrong vid
16:53 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur​e=player_embedded&amp;v=QXtOdSgf6Ic
16:53 BotSteve Title: Saturday afternoon at Shibuya Crossing, Tokyo - YouTube
16:53 wannabe1987 that one
16:55 killakee wannabe that was madnes XD
16:56 wannabe1987 what, the asian one?
16:56 wannabe1987 or the british one?
16:56 wannabe1987 or BOTH
16:56 killakee asian
16:56 wannabe1987 i know!
16:56 * Cprossu wonders
16:57 Cprossu .yt this is
16:57 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qE22UOlQts
16:57 Cprossu man
16:57 wannabe1987 o!
16:57 wannabe1987 it is time to swim!
16:57 wannabe1987 i have to go
16:57 Cprossu the yt scropt really fails
16:57 wannabe1987 i'll be gone for a bit
16:57 Cprossu it REALLY fails
16:57 Cprossu .yt Madness this is
16:57 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qR0Uke2XNI
16:58 BatSteve Cprossu: fix it! fix it!
16:59 BatSteve (You know it's just an I'm Feeling Lucky search on site:youtube.com, right?)
16:59 Cprossu ok I'll need some holy water, a torch, and a sacrificial chicken.
16:59 Cprossu yeah I realize that BatSteve
16:59 Cprossu but it never comes back with the right one
16:59 Cprossu .g this is
16:59 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.thisis50.com/
16:59 Cprossu hrmmm
16:59 BatSteve Cprossu:  if you don't get the result you want, want the result you get.
17:00 Cprossu .g this is youtube
17:00 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ixRzweJ1pc
17:00 BatSteve .w welcome to the internet
17:00 BotSteve "YTMND, an initialism for 'You're the Man Now, Dog', is an online community centered on the creation of hosted web pages (known within the community as YTMNDs or sites) featuring a juxtaposition of an image (still or short animation) centered or tiled along with [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YTMND
17:00 BatSteve oops
17:00 BatSteve .yt welcome to the internet
17:00 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvl5qFuWfxs
17:00 Cprossu lol
17:00 BatSteve yesssssssss
17:01 Cprossu .yt Yatta
17:01 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW6M8D41ZWU
17:02 Cprossu .ud the internet sucks
17:02 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.urbandictionary.com/defi​ne.php?term=the%20internet%20sucks
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17:13 astro73|alice hello world
17:13 Ponko hmm
17:14 Cprossu_Netbook hmmmmmr
17:14 astro73|alice hmmmmmmmm
17:14 Ponko kelly you here
17:15 astro73|alice .seen wannabe1987
17:15 BotSteve astro73|alice: I last saw wannabe1987 0.30 hours ago at 2011-11-17 16:57:21 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:15:09 UTC
17:15 Ponko wannabe1987
17:15 astro73|alice she's swimming
17:17 astro73|alice BotSteve: ask BatSteve if you've talked to sbp at all? What does he think of BotSteve?
17:17 BotSteve astro73|alice: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
17:18 Ponko botsteve: tell wannabe1987 that madness is ACTUALLY less complicated when you go through and the trick to it is take every roundabout as a single roundabout and the grass bank is just that... a grass bank not a roundabout
17:18 BotSteve Ponko: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
17:19 Ponko cheers botsteve
17:19 BatSteve hi astro
17:19 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
17:19 BotSteve At 17:17Z, astro73|alice asked me to ask BatSteve if you've talked to sbp at all? What does he think of BotSteve?
17:19 astro73|alice hi bats
17:19 BatSteve .seen sbp
17:19 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen sbp around.
17:19 BatSteve drat
17:19 BatSteve hi astro
17:20 astro73|alice ... that would be the author of phenny
17:20 BatSteve I know
17:20 Ponko batsteve make botsteve reply to cheers
17:20 BatSteve I put BotSteve in his channel a while ago
17:20 astro73|alice we may have lost that data
17:20 BatSteve so that he could try out some of the new functionality that we were implementing
17:20 BatSteve But that was a *long* while ago
17:20 BatSteve He has certainly not seen the new things that we've done
17:20 astro73|alice before I showed up and decided that nothing was sacred?
17:21 BatSteve Yes, that.  (:
17:21 Ponko thats unfortunate
17:21 BatSteve He's not opposed to updates - whenever I've contributed code to him, he's pulled it
17:22 astro73|alice i don't really care about his opinion from a writing/project management standpoint
17:22 BatSteve But our forks have diverged pretty severely
17:22 astro73|alice but I am curious about what he thinks about we're doing
17:22 BatSteve well, let's ask him
17:22 BatSteve /join #sbp
17:22 astro73|alice oh? where is he?
17:22 BatSteve in #sbp
17:23 Ponko lol
17:23 Ponko i'm there now
17:23 astro73|alice small little group
17:23 BatSteve it's his personal channel
17:23 astro73|alice ah
17:24 BatSteve the main one is #swhack
17:24 Ponko join that
17:27 astro73|alice "Imagine eating a spectrum purple end first"
17:27 Ponko BatSteve how's that bruise ;)
17:28 BatSteve Hurts, but I got a nice knife out of the deal!
17:28 Ponko :P lol
17:28 Ponko well i meant THIS bruise
17:28 BatSteve astro73|alice: I would ask in #sbp, just to minimize channel clutter
17:28 * Ponko thumps batsteve for his bday :P
17:28 BatSteve :D   that too
17:29 Cprossu lol
17:29 Ponko dw you'll get revenge in 4 months
17:29 astro73|alice i see that
17:30 astro73|alice I figured i'd just lurk there
17:34 BatSteve By the way, I looked over the commit - I'll pull and apply it tonight, but I'm also going to research whether we could maintain some sort of list of aliases for each user
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17:34 astro73|alice you mean for nicks?
17:34 BatSteve Yeah
17:34 Ponko lol BatSteve i'm still laughing at the Seroster incident and me kicking you
17:34 astro73|alice I'd query nickserv on that
17:34 BatSteve So that we wouldn't have to use wildcarding
17:34 BatSteve Because the idea of ".seen *" really bugs me
17:34 Ponko i think that'll be my thing to say when you leave
17:34 BatSteve hi Guest43926
17:35 Cprossu I am with you BatSteve.
17:35 Cprossu wildcards bug me as a software stress tester.
17:35 astro73|alice It's no more expensive then running `ls` on it, though
17:35 Ponko wildcards are awesome
17:35 Cprossu as it opens up a whole new world
17:35 Ponko ........in sports
17:36 Ponko i should know Green Bay were the 6th seed from the NFC in the playoffs last year and they won it all :P
17:36 astro73|alice i totally think we need a service module that maintains a list of equivelent nicks for each user. My preference is to pull data from nickserv
17:37 BatSteve Right, I'm not worried about how expensive it is, I'm worried about homeboys (/me looks significantly at Cprossu) channel flooding
17:38 astro73|alice if a user is +i, query nickserv for their info and store their canonical user name and alternate nicks
17:38 astro73|alice I limit it to the 5 most recent nicks
17:38 BatSteve I saw, and I was happy about that
17:38 astro73|alice and I think I added some pretty intelligent formatting, too
17:39 astro73|alice although in my primitive data set, I only got over 5 on "*"
17:40 Ponko but sports wildcards are awesome BatSteve
17:40 astro73|alice plus, phenny already has limiting logic
17:41 Cprossu lol BatSteve
17:41 Cprossu hrmmm
17:42 Ponko Pennys are good too
17:42 Ponko well when you need few bits of change
17:42 Cprossu you know you _could_ only accept 3-4 BotSteve commands from the same user in x time period
17:42 Cprossu @ BatSteve
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17:46 astro73|alice BatSteve: again, you can play with it in #tgg-bots
17:47 astro73|alice I should really just keep it running all the time
17:47 Cprossu you should
17:47 BatSteve I've seen the limiting logic, I didn't think it was particularly awesome
17:47 astro73|alice not the limiting, but the intelligent formatting of output
17:49 Cprossu I am sure you saw the little .seen rally I did in the bots channel right BatSteve?
17:49 BatSteve ahhh
17:49 BatSteve I gotcha
17:49 BatSteve I did see that Cprossu
17:50 BatSteve Which is what started me thinking about "there's GOT to be a better option than this"
17:50 BatSteve No offense astro
17:50 Cprossu yeah I've been thinking about that too
17:50 astro73|alice it's the simple way
17:50 astro73|alice we can use it until there's a user-tracking framework
17:51 astro73|alice how did it end up in the pull, anyways? I don't remember updating it?
17:51 Cprossu granted you could just use a wildcard if *cprossu* don't forward commands and it will prevent 90% of your problems in the future (j/k)
17:56 BatSteve I don't know
17:56 BatSteve But I don't have to pull it
17:56 BatSteve I can just pull up to a certain commit
17:57 astro73|alice You should be able to just pull from my realdb branch
17:57 astro73|alice pull/merge/whatever
17:58 BatSteve ok
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18:19 wannabe-afk OMG ITS SNOWING
18:19 wannabe1987 ...
18:19 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
18:19 BotSteve At 17:18Z, Ponko asked me to tell wannabe1987 that madness is ACTUALLY less complicated when you go through and the trick to it is take every roundabout as a single roundabout and the grass bank is just that... a grass bank not a roundabout
18:19 wannabe1987 right....
18:20 * Experimentonomen have decided to chip his xbox 360
18:27 * killakee sings : let it snow.. let it snow.. let it snow....
18:28 * wannabe1987 whacks killakee over the head w/ a snow shovel SHUT UP
18:28 killakee aoutch.. that hurt :(
18:28 wannabe1987 that was the point...
18:36 wannabe1987 i don't like snow
18:36 wannabe1987 ........
18:36 wannabe1987 sorry
18:37 * wannabe1987 holds out ice chunk to killakee for the spot on your head
18:37 Ponomnomnomko lol kelly
18:37 wannabe1987 o.O
18:37 wannabe1987 what the fuck happened to your nick?!
18:38 Ponko i was eating
18:38 wannabe1987 oooo
18:39 wannabe1987 .yt jingle bombs
18:39 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wskT6YfVB6E
18:39 Experimentonomen i hate snow too
18:43 wannabe1987 I KILL YOU
18:50 wannabe1987 .tfw denver CO
18:50 Ponko IT'S A TRAP
18:50 BotSteve 54°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Denver, CO!  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
18:52 Ponko KAHHHHHHHHN
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18:54 wannabe1987 hi Electricguy
18:54 wannabe1987 Electronics*
18:54 Electronics heya
18:55 Electricguy lol
18:56 wannabe1987 ....
18:56 Electronics .....................
18:56 wannabe1987 too many electric (electic?) people here!
18:56 Electronics XD
18:56 wannabe1987 eclectic?  electic?  i don't know!!!!
18:57 Electricguy bzzzt!
18:57 killakee i realy realy hate winding secondarys by hand :/
18:57 Electricguy yeah that's a PITA
18:58 Ponko reminds me of a Gary Numan song
18:58 Ponko "are friends electric"
18:58 Electricguy winding coils in general = boring :P
18:59 killakee and the worst part its only a smal one .. im having second thoughts abuote starting the bigger one :P
18:59 Electricguy lol, okey :P
19:00 killakee someone should make a jig that you only select the gauge of wire and pisto presto it does it for me :D
19:02 SparkyProjects killakee: that's why i built a coil winder.
19:03 killakee well i think you have a bit more coils under your belt than i have ;)
19:03 SparkyProjects I built my first verion of coil winder for my second coil :P
19:04 killakee wow..
19:06 SparkyProjects Did you watch tgg's vid of Billy's first winding jig ?
19:06 SparkyProjects It was just 3 bits of wood, and manual winding, upgrade to that would be the use of a variable speed battery drill
19:07 astro73|alice I've actually got a coil winder for chain mail
19:07 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmcvXE-YPCs
19:07 BotSteve Title: How to - Home Built Tesla Coil - Winding the Secondary Coil Pt3 - YouTube
19:07 astro73|alice a metal rod between to pieces of wood, with a hole to insert the wire to start it
19:08 killakee ah like the one on geekgroup..
19:08 killakee i like that ..
19:08 killakee simple and easy
19:10 dbshortwave .tfw 13346
19:10 BotSteve 36°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Hamilton, NY!  'Wear a fucking jacket.'
19:10 dbshortwave LOL
19:10 dbshortwave no shit lol
19:11 killakee its 3.3c here
19:11 killakee and no snow :(
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19:13 BatSteve netsplit!
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19:14 dbshortwave server punt!
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19:14 SparkyProjects TGG actually own an automatic coil winder, i believe they wound Gemini on it, it has auto feed and tension, is also capable of space winding.
19:14 SparkyProjects Coils are wound vertically, i can't find the vid though
19:16 BatSteve Time to go
19:16 BatSteve Later all
19:18 Ponko KNIFE IN YOUR BACK HAHAHA
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19:22 killakee sweet :)
19:22 * Cprossu removes Ponko's knife collection and hides it somewhere he won't find it
19:23 * Ponko is watching
19:23 killakee dont play with knifes :)
19:23 * Cprossu spraypaints Ponko's cameras
19:24 * Ponko is Standing next to Cprossu
19:24 Ponko soo what are we doing?
19:24 * Cprossu spraypaints Ponko and runs away
19:24 SparkyProjects HEH, a bit of history http://vimeo.com/user1474803/videos
19:24 BotSteve Title: Chris Boden's videos on Vimeo
19:24 Ponko uhhhh
19:25 * Cprossu hitches a ride on one of BatSteve's instructor planes
19:25 * Cprossu drops Ponko's knives into a nondescript forest
19:25 * Ponko is lucky he wasn't wearing anything sentimental or expensive
19:25 * Cprossu lands, changes his identity and is standing behind Ponko wearing a plastic nose
19:26 * Cprossu is spying on Ponko
19:27 * Ponko remembers his Ninjutsu training swiftly kos Cprossu
19:27 * Cprossu is glad he hired a stunt double
19:27 Ponko oh damn Michael Jackson
19:28 Cprossu o_o
19:28 Cprossu holy crap.
19:28 Cprossu k
19:28 Cprossu just don't be stabbing people whaen they are afk
19:28 Cprossu it's not NICE!
19:28 * Cprossu hands Ponko back his knives
19:28 * Cprossu goes AFK
19:30 Ponko lol Cprossu you missed the incident on tgg:sports
19:30 Ponko first off the Sero one and then the one where i kicked batty and said that lol
19:30 Cprossu I stay away from there Ponko lol
19:31 Ponko but why :( i need people there lol
19:31 Cprossu the only sport I believe in is making fun of people.... and baseball..... and drag racing......
19:31 Ponko well we talk ALL sports
19:32 Ponko Archery to Zorbing
19:32 Ponko and free cake
19:32 Ponko well not the last part
19:33 Cprossu how about 143 man squamish?
19:33 Cprossu .w 143 man squamish
19:33 BotSteve "Britannia Beach is a small unincorporated community in the Squamish-Lillooet Regional District located approximately 30 kilometers north of Vancouver, British Columbia on the Sea-to-Sky Highway on Howe Sound." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br​itannia_Beach,_British_Columbia
19:33 Cprossu o_O
19:33 Cprossu oops
19:33 Cprossu .w 43 man squamish
19:33 BotSteve "43-Man Squamish is a fictional sport that was invented in issue #95 of MAD Magazine (June 1965) by George Woodbridge and Tom Koch." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/43-Man_Squamish
19:34 Cprossu OK it was only 43 man
19:34 Cprossu sorry
19:34 Ponko lol well key word fictional it has to be an actual sport
19:34 Ponko we could even talk about the game The Running Man
19:34 Ponko but that's not real
19:35 Ponko .....................................yet
19:36 Cprossu 43 man squamish happened though Ponko
19:37 Ponko in a Magazine
19:37 Ponko which is MAD
19:37 Ponko literally
19:45 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=​player_profilepage&amp;v=d9g-jxzTh9g
19:45 BotSteve Title: Jeff Dunham - Controlled Chaos - Achmed #2 - YouTube
19:45 wannabe1987 :D
19:47 killakee Jeff Dunham = epic
19:47 wannabe1987 yep
19:48 dbshortwave http://youtu.be/8qOBXCCIFP8
19:48 BotSteve Title: Jeff Dunham - Controlled Chaos - Peanut & Little Jeff - YouTube
19:48 wannabe1987 mhm
19:48 dbshortwave peanut is awesome!
19:48 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=​player_profilepage&amp;v=d9g-jxzTh9g
19:48 BotSteve Title: Jeff Dunham - Controlled Chaos - Achmed #2 - YouTube
19:48 wannabe1987 love peanut
19:48 wannabe1987 wrong link
19:48 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=​player_profilepage&amp;v=E7dYHXkebrQ  this one?
19:48 BotSteve Title: Holiday E-Card #7 with Jeff & Walter - YouTube
19:48 wannabe1987 yeah, that one
19:54 astro73|alice wannabe1987: want to be helpful?
19:54 * wannabe1987 still doesn't know whats taking up so much room on the computer....music doesn't take up *that* much space
19:54 wannabe1987 sure!
19:55 astro73|alice we started a wiki documenting BotSteve. It needs a lot more stuff in it
19:55 wannabe1987 o?
19:55 astro73|alice https://github.com/Steve-V/tg​g-BotSteve/wiki/Modules:seen
19:55 BotSteve Title: Modules:seen - GitHub
19:57 wannabe1987 so what do i do?
19:58 killakee tmp files ?
19:59 astro73|alice wannabe1987: start writing more pages on what stuff does, using seen as an example?
19:59 wannabe1987 ok....how?
20:00 astro73|alice I think you have to register on github first
20:00 wannabe1987 ok
20:01 wannabe1987 there.  now i see "new page"
20:01 wannabe1987 .radar
20:01 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=grr&amp​;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
20:01 dbshortwave windows 7 new logo http://www.waikiki-islanders.​com/assets/round-turd-big.jpg
20:01 astro73|alice after that, there should be edit links on pages. The home page gives you the list of modules
20:02 astro73|alice and if you look at the source of seen, you have something to start with
20:03 wannabe1987 Ok.  I can try
20:03 astro73|alice (I'm using astro73, BatSteve, and Cprossu as example users A, B, and C)
20:03 Cprossu tgg|yNos : pm.
20:03 wannabe1987 lol
20:03 tgg|yNos yup
20:03 tgg|yNos just saw it
20:04 tgg|yNos who was it that wanted an as/400 login?
20:04 tgg|yNos i just talked to chris about it.
20:04 Cprossu .log
20:04 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
20:04 tgg|yNos if you have paid your $20 and gotten your card, you will be able to get a login.
20:05 astro73|alice .help radar
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20:06 wannabe1987 only one that seems to be done is seen, right?
20:06 astro73|alice yeah
20:06 wannabe1987 ok
20:06 astro73|alice The seen module has one command
20:06 wannabe1987 so the format that you've done for .seen is how you want the rest done/
20:06 wannabe1987 ?*
20:06 astro73|alice yeah
20:07 astro73|alice radar is part of the weather module
20:07 wannabe1987 ok
20:07 wannabe1987 so is tfw, no?
20:07 astro73|alice no, it's got it's own module
20:07 wannabe1987 i see
20:07 astro73|alice I can help you more out later
20:08 wannabe1987 ok.  i'll try one
20:08 wannabe1987 .radar 49428
20:09 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=GRR&amp​;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
20:09 wannabe1987 .radar 12345
20:09 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=ENX&amp​;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
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20:09 thegamer579 hi
20:09 wannabe1987 hi
20:10 Cprossu it ewas Hackbat who wanted it @ tgg|yNos
20:10 thegamer579 i take they are still working on audio? what is being made
20:10 Cprossu the audio was fixed
20:10 Cprossu don't know if anyone brought it up though
20:10 Cprossu there's a shotgun mic on set.
20:11 thegamer579 oh i have no sound will check all my gear
20:12 thegamer579 my sound is in order
20:12 Cprossu ahhh they are in MDH now
20:12 thegamer579 yh i take it that the mdh is still not done
20:13 Cprossu thegamer579 you should still have scanner audio
20:13 thegamer579 not from the feed im watching could it have been muted in master control
20:13 Cprossu_Netbook as I am getting that. it is not muted
20:14 thegamer579 oh strange
20:14 Cprossu_Netbook I am logged into the stream computer from here and I can verify it's putting out audio, and I am logged into the stream here at home
20:14 Cprossu_Netbook and can hear it
20:14 * tgg|yNos heard it first :P
20:14 thegamer579 so that sounds like my end has something up
20:14 Cprossu_Netbook can you hear audio on any other justin.tv channel thegamer579?
20:14 Cprossu_Netbook rofl.
20:15 thegamer579 the scanner is there now
20:15 thegamer579 lol
20:15 wannabe1987 astro73|alice - at the bottom you have code ---- [`modules/seen.py`]  where do i get the code for the others? (like .radar).  or do i just plug .radar into where .seen is
20:18 Seroster .bored
20:18 BotSteve Maybe you should...Paint stripes on a lake
20:18 * angy fondles Seroster
20:18 Seroster ANGY
20:18 Seroster Frenchman!
20:19 Seroster WHere have ye been the past 3 days?
20:19 angy Viking!
20:19 angy quite away
20:19 Seroster Eating slime?
20:19 angy not even!
20:19 Seroster Eating worse than slime?!
20:19 angy yeah, part of your liver
20:20 angy how's sweden?
20:20 Seroster That explains the sharp feeling in my stomach
20:20 angy =)
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20:24 TENp01nt can some1 in the lab radio chris to tilt down the live stram camera...:)
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20:25 Seroster erm
20:26 TENp01nt what is he making there..?
20:29 Seroster I have no ida
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20:30 wannabe1987 lee!
20:31 wannabe1987 lwq1996
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20:41 sndwrx welp.
20:42 tgg|yNos Cprossu_Netbook: pm on cprossu
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20:55 tehdark45 Hello
20:56 wannabe1987 lwq1996: do you understand github?
20:57 Seroster Bye for a while frenchman
20:57 tehdark45 more importantly, does GitHub understand you?
21:12 Ponko wait is lee on stream?
21:15 wannabe1987 no
21:15 wannabe1987 he is in pa
21:16 Ponko lol hmm
21:16 Ponko lwq1996: you bastard
21:23 * wannabe1987 can read her parents minds over the interwebz
21:24 lwq1996 what ponko...why would you think i was
21:25 Ponko idk kelly was giving me the idea lol
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21:25 lwq1996 lol
21:25 wannabe1987 TOAST!
21:25 angy Toaschty!
21:25 Ponko TOASTY
21:25 * angy hugs Toastdude
21:26 Toastdude PONKY
21:26 * Toastdude hugs angy
21:26 Toastdude WANNABE
21:26 Toastdude !
21:26 Toastdude Hi
21:26 wannabe1987 :)
21:26 Toastdude How's my sister today?
21:26 wannabe1987 ANGY!
21:26 wannabe1987 doing ok
21:26 Toastdude Good :)
21:27 Toastdude Captain's Blog!
21:28 wannabe1987 where?
21:28 SuperPhosphate joined #thegeekgroup
21:28 Toastdude It's yesterday's
21:28 Toastdude Hi SuperPhosphate!
21:28 wannabe1987 link?
21:28 SuperPhosphate Hi
21:28 Toastdude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=9OaDV-2F9nY&amp;feature=feedu
21:28 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 11-16-11 Camera Mounts, CNC Class, How to Mop, Lights, and Fun - YouTube
21:28 Toastdude Are you new to the Geek Group, SuperPhosphate?
21:29 wannabe1987 she's newish
21:29 SuperPhosphate yes, since about last week I think
21:29 Toastdude Okay, cause I haven't seen her around..
21:29 Toastdude Welcome!
21:29 SuperPhosphate Hi wannabe1987
21:29 SuperPhosphate thanks Toastdude
21:29 Toastdude :)
21:29 wannabe1987 how are you today?
21:30 SuperPhosphate Im tired, I have been busy today
21:30 SuperPhosphate and its now 10.30 pm
21:30 wannabe1987 ahhh
21:30 wannabe1987 time tosleep
21:31 SuperPhosphate I dug my Tortoice out of the ground
21:31 wannabe1987 ??
21:31 SuperPhosphate she was hibernating
21:31 wannabe1987 why was your tortise ooooo ok
21:32 SuperPhosphate but we prefer to keep her in a box inside in case it gets too cold for her
21:32 wannabe1987 makes sense
21:33 SuperPhosphate whats happening with you?
21:34 Toastdude iPod died..... :'(
21:34 SuperPhosphate Thats sooo sad
21:34 Toastdude Haha, right in the middle of Beethoven....
21:35 SuperPhosphate What's stuff are you into Toastdude?
21:35 Toastdude Science! :P
21:35 angy butter and peanuts
21:35 SuperPhosphate cool
21:35 SuperPhosphate hello angy
21:35 Toastdude Music, science
21:35 Toastdude How about you?
21:36 angy hello SuperPhosphate
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21:36 SuperPhosphate science, scale model scenery making, sewing
21:37 Cprossu_Netbook o_o did someone change it back to weathercam?
21:37 Toastdude P-P=P-P=P-P=P-P=P-P=P-P=P-P=P-P=P-P=P-P=P-P=P-P=P   <- That's what you're made of, SuperPhosphate?
21:37 Cprossu_Netbook @ tgg|yNos tggmc1 or egrsteve|away
21:38 SuperPhosphate lol toastdute
21:38 Toastdude Yay polymers!
21:38 SuperPhosphate Where are the sulphates
21:38 angy more PO4 in the chain
21:38 Toastdude You only have phosphorus though
21:38 angy [PO4]3- if I remember my chemistry right
21:39 SuperPhosphate yeah silly mi, im not thinking clearly
21:39 * Toastdude goes to watch CB
21:40 * wannabe1987 watches moose give CNC lessons
21:43 SuperPhosphate I was right
21:43 SuperPhosphate Superphosphate
21:43 SuperPhosphate Superphosphate is a fertilizer produced by the action of concentrated sulfuric acid on powdered phosphate rock.[2]
21:43 SuperPhosphate Ca3(PO4)2(s) + 2 H2SO4(aq) ? 2 CaSO4(aq) + Ca(H2PO4)2(aq
21:45 SuperPhosphate so Im not so clueless after all!!
21:47 tonsofpcs yawn
21:48 Toastdude Lol
21:49 Ponko Cprossu i guess you're a Diamondback?
21:50 wannabe1987 .radar birmingham alabama
21:50 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=BMX&amp​;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
21:50 AgCNO6 You know what I am, SuperPhosphate?
21:51 wannabe1987 .radar tgg
21:51 BotSteve wannabe1987: No such location, or can't find radar data
21:51 SuperPhosphate Im thinking
21:51 AgCNO6 .tfw tgg
21:51 BotSteve 32°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND SNOWING IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Warmer than Hoth.'
21:51 AgCNO6 No googleing!
21:52 * wannabe1987 pokes AgCNO6 so he goes boom
21:52 AgCNO6 :(
21:52 * AgCNO6 Depleted_Toast
21:52 wannabe1987 hehe
21:52 Depleted_Toast Wow, it is snowing there...
21:53 wannabe1987 yeah don't rmend me
21:53 Depleted_Toast Haha
21:53 SuperPhosphate so its silver carbon nitrogen oxygen
21:54 wannabe1987 .radar monteal canada
21:54 BotSteve wannabe1987: No such location, or can't find radar data
21:54 wannabe1987 .radar montreal quebec
21:54 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=CXX&amp​;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
21:54 wannabe1987 .radar london england
21:54 BotSteve wannabe1987: No such location, or can't find radar data
21:54 wannabe1987 .radar melbourne australia
21:54 BotSteve wannabe1987: No such location, or can't find radar data
21:54 wannabe1987 .radar helsinski finland
21:55 BotSteve wannabe1987: No such location, or can't find radar data
21:55 Depleted_Toast Yes, but what is it called SuperPhosphate? :P
21:55 SuperPhosphate I know , i was hoping for a hint
21:55 wannabe1987 duh
21:55 SuperPhosphate I bet its really easy
21:55 Depleted_Toast Fulminate
21:55 wannabe1987 thats why it doesn't do other than north america....its from our gov'ment
21:55 wannabe1987 :P
21:55 Depleted_Toast Pretty much gave the answer...
21:56 wannabe1987 huh huh i made you blow up huh huh
21:57 * Depleted_Toast jabs wannabe in the stomach
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21:57 SuperPhosphate silver cyanate
21:58 Depleted_Toast Kate!
21:58 Depleted_Toast Close
21:58 Katemonster hi
21:58 wannabe1987 hi kate
21:58 SuperPhosphate silver fulminate
21:58 Katemonster how's things?
21:58 Depleted_Toast Yep, correct
21:58 masterofmonks SuperPhosphate: CN not Cn
21:59 SuperPhosphate ok
22:00 SuperPhosphate I shall have to take notes, Im keen but dont know everything yet :(
22:00 Depleted_Toast C6H12O6
22:00 Katemonster none of us know anything
22:00 Katemonster *everything
22:00 Katemonster well, some of us don't know anything
22:00 SuperPhosphate lol
22:00 Katemonster but none of us know everything
22:00 Katemonster except maybe batsteve
22:01 masterofmonks Katemonster: You had it right the first time.
22:01 tonsofpcs Sn
22:01 masterofmonks Tin
22:01 Katemonster LOL
22:01 Depleted_Toast Yeah, Bats would be the only one... Along with MoM
22:01 SuperPhosphate I know the C6H12)6 one from biology
22:02 Depleted_Toast What is it then?
22:02 masterofmonks Dihydrogen Monoxide?
22:02 wannabe1987 o2
22:02 * wannabe1987 is lost
22:03 Depleted_Toast Dihydrogen monoxide is quite deadly if inhaled...
22:03 SuperPhosphate have you tried it?
22:03 masterofmonks .g dihydrogen monoxide dangers
22:03 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
22:03 Depleted_Toast Yeah, it's pretty good, as long as it's not drank in large quantities
22:04 wannabe1987 cattails
22:04 SuperPhosphate glucose
22:04 SuperPhosphate yeah energy
22:04 Depleted_Toast Bye angy-away !
22:04 tgg|yNos Cprossu_Netbook: pm on cprossu
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22:06 Depleted_Toast Wb Electricguy
22:06 Electricguy thx
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22:07 HeartbreakOne Hi
22:07 SuperPhosphate lol, hello
22:07 HeartbreakOne Darn...
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22:08 wannabe1987 hi IIsi50MHz
22:08 HeartbreakOne Hi IIsi50MHz
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22:08 IIsi50MHz Hej
22:08 wannabe1987 its been a while
22:08 wannabe1987 hi lem
22:08 LemPhone lo
22:08 SuperPhosphate Good night vastly more inteligent people than myself :)
22:08 wannabe1987 night SuperPhosphate
22:08 LemPhone off to le banc to sort them out
22:08 SuperPhosphate I am off to snore bye
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22:09 IIsi50MHz Indeed. IRC computer was offline for a while, and Mibbit is still blocked from Freenode.
22:09 HeartbreakOne Lol, night SuperPhosphate, don't encounter too much dihydrogen monoxide!
22:09 wannabe1987 yep
22:09 LemPhone 1.5 years after I became HSBNE president I still don't have a group credit card
22:09 wannabe1987 but you can go to the website and under live video you can talk
22:09 SuperPhosphate I'll try not to , tell you if I do later
22:09 LemPhone despite numerous attempts from us to fix it
22:09 Toastdude Okay
22:09 Cheezmo gonna really try for a day off, lol
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22:10 wannabe1987 lol fail
22:10 Cheezmo I've got a few thousands comic pages to catch up on
22:10 Cheezmo I'm at 2375/4090 on one
22:10 LemPhone which comic?
22:11 Cheezmo mostly just 3-4 pane webcomics though
22:11 Cheezmo SinFest
22:11 LemPhone oh lol
22:11 Cheezmo :P
22:11 Cheezmo It's rather amusing
22:11 Cheezmo I was looking through my old webcomic links, and somehow MegaTokyo is still rolling along
22:12 Cheezmo and it looks the damn same and from the few strips I looked at, there's hardly any development
22:12 LemPhone yup
22:12 Cheezmo from like 6 years ago...
22:12 LemPhone yeah, updates fuck all
22:12 Cheezmo Sinfest is still apparently daily owo
22:12 LemPhone yup
22:12 LemPhone with a big colour one every sunday
22:13 Cheezmo I do keep up on XKCD (3 weekly), AwkwardZombie (weekly), Johnny Wander (1-2/week?) and ExtraOrdinary (weekly)
22:13 IIsi50MHz Colour on Sundays? How very 'newspaper'.
22:13 Cheezmo lol
22:13 LemPhone I have about 20 I check on a daily basis
22:14 Cheezmo lol
22:14 LemPhone opera has a nice function for bookmark folders "open all items"
22:14 wannabe1987 i have xkcd and cyanide and happiness
22:14 Cheezmo Firefox also has Open All
22:15 Cheezmo but my webcomic folder has about 40 links xD
22:15 LemPhone rofl
22:15 SparkyProjects More snow on stream ?
22:17 wannabe1987 shhhhhhhhhhhh
22:18 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I make some eggs?
22:18 BotSteve Nope
22:18 Toastdude :(
22:18 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I make some eggs now?
22:18 BotSteve Reply hazy, try again later
22:18 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I make some eggs in a minute?
22:18 BotSteve I don't think so
22:18 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I make some eggs in a minute?
22:18 BotSteve Reply hazy, try again later
22:18 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I make some eggs in a minute?
22:18 BotSteve Yep!
22:18 Toastdude Yay!
22:18 Ponko BotSteve should i make a egg and bacon sandwich
22:18 BotSteve Maybe
22:19 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve!
22:19 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
22:19 Ponko BotSteve should i make a egg and bacon sandwich in 10 mins
22:19 BotSteve Not a chance
22:19 Ponko BotSteve should i make a egg and bacon sandwich in now
22:19 BotSteve No way
22:19 LemPhone botsteve should I make an elvis food sandwich?
22:19 BotSteve No way
22:19 LemPhone aww :-(
22:19 wannabe1987 no bacon for you
22:19 Toastdude BotSteve: Should Ponko make his egg and bacon sandwich now?
22:19 BotSteve Nope
22:19 wannabe1987 bad for heart! :P
22:19 LemPhone shush you :-P
22:19 Toastdude Sorry Ponky :P
22:20 Ponko BotSteve should i make a egg and bacon sandwich in half an hour
22:20 BotSteve I don't think so
22:20 Ponko BotSteve should i make a egg and bacon sandwich in an hour
22:20 BotSteve Not a chance
22:20 Ponko BotSteve should i make a egg and bacon sandwich today
22:20 BotSteve Ask again later!
22:20 Ponko -_-
22:20 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should Ponko have made his sandwich yesterday
22:20 BotSteve Yep!
22:20 wannabe1987 .......
22:20 Ponko lol
22:20 wannabe1987 .sandwhich
22:20 wannabe1987 .sandwich
22:20 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I made you a turkey on rye sandwich!
22:21 wannabe1987 ewwwww
22:21 Ponko BotSteve should i make a egg and bacon sandwich tomorrow
22:21 BotSteve Reply hazy, try again later
22:21 LemPhone lol
22:21 Ponko i'm gonna slap you
22:21 LemPhone botsteve should ponko has bacons?
22:21 BotSteve I don't think so
22:21 LemPhone lol
22:22 * Ponko FACEPALM
22:22 LemPhone botsteve should die in a fire
22:22 BotSteve Yep!
22:22 wannabe1987 lol
22:22 * Ponko applauds
22:22 LemPhone sitting on the bus giggling my head off now
22:23 Ponko lol
22:23 wannabe1987 i am at the v ideo....
22:23 wannabe1987 but not on a bus
22:23 Ponko eh?
22:23 Ponko the v ideo?
22:24 LemPhone botsteve should doc brown choke a bitch?
22:24 BotSteve Absolutely
22:24 wannabe1987 vidoe
22:24 wannabe1987 aka blog
22:25 Toastdude BotSteve: Should Ponko make his egg and bacon sandwich now?
22:25 BotSteve Ask again later!
22:25 Toastdude BotSteve: Should Ponko make his egg and bacon sandwich now?
22:25 BotSteve Not a chance
22:25 Toastdude BotSteve: Should Ponko make his egg and bacon sandwich now?
22:25 BotSteve No way
22:26 Toastdude .... In a PM he says yes....
22:26 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i have a bacon and egg sandwich
22:26 BotSteve I don't think so
22:26 Ponko LemPhone wasn't that in Crank 2?
22:26 LemPhone yup
22:26 Ponko lol
22:26 Ponko Doc Brown
22:26 Ponko Back To The Future
22:26 LemPhone yup
22:26 * Toastdude recorded a 3 part song on the piano :D
22:26 Seroster LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
22:26 Toastdude SEROSTER
22:27 wannabe1987 ASSHOLES
22:27 LemPhone UNMENTIONABLES
22:27 Cheezmo CHEEZMO
22:27 Toastdude "My business is done!" -Zim
22:27 Ponko KAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHN
22:27 Cheezmo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exJX0rL7UVE
22:27 BotSteve Title: kplecraft - 8 bit goa #4 ( 8 Bit Music ) - YouTube
22:27 Seroster Since we all are pretty annoyed the spacer between the channels are not the same we have decided that from now on all subchannels should be TGG:****
22:27 Toastdude KAHN ACADEMY
22:27 Toastdude So TGG:NSFW ?
22:28 Seroster This will be done by simply redirecting traffic from #TGG_NSFW to #TGG:NSFW, You will still be able to join #TGG_NSFW but you will be redirected by chanserv
22:28 Toastdude Hey, cool
22:28 Cheezmo dunno if chanserv has redirect power?
22:29 LemPhone it does
22:29 Seroster Believe me it has
22:29 Cheezmo hm, ok
22:29 Seroster Try joining #electronics for example, it redirects you to ##electronics
22:29 LemPhone one of the channels I join redirects to #overflow if you are not signed into nickserv
22:29 Seroster Yes, That would be electronics =)
22:29 LemPhone indeed
22:30 * LemPhone bows humblybefore the all poweful (but benign) chanserv
22:30 Seroster On a side note, SparkyProjects, My parents kitchen fan (anno 1965xD) doesnt do crap when you start it, but it kicks to life after half an hour or so. Do you think its the starter capacitor?   I really look forward to messign with 40 years of grease. =)
22:31 LemPhone sigh, my poor phone is breaking D-:
22:31 Cheezmo Seroster: Wd40 might help
22:31 Seroster Heh.
22:31 Seroster It was a bad fan in 1965
22:31 Cheezmo lol
22:31 Seroster It is an awful fan nowdays
22:32 * LemPhone spanks the bad fan
22:32 Cheezmo well, Wd40 might help anyways :P
22:32 LemPhone replace it perhaps seroster?
22:32 Toastdude Don't you just love mutagens?
22:32 SparkyProjects Seroster, it's probably the grease, you have to wait till the motor gets hot enough to melt it enough to allow the fan to move :P
22:32 Seroster LemPhone, Yeah, problem is that it is custom built in, changing it will be a MAJOR overhaul
22:32 Seroster LOL
22:32 LemPhone heh
22:32 * Seroster goes to get some degreaser
22:33 LemPhone yeah, pull it out, drop it in some metho, then regrease the bearings
22:33 LemPhone probably run for another 40 years
22:33 Seroster No
22:33 Seroster It wont
22:33 Cheezmo Seroster, You can also try getting some powdered graphite or other lube to get into it to try and help after degreasing
22:33 Seroster Pull it out, figure out how to replace it and cuss
22:34 LemPhone that too
22:34 wannabe1987 anyone know how to use GIMP?
22:34 Seroster WD40 is GREAT, not for lube, but to get rid of old lube =)
22:34 Cheezmo wannabe1987: Uninstall and install SAI
22:34 wannabe1987 sai?
22:34 Cheezmo PaintTool SAI
22:34 IIsi50MHz GIMP is how you handicap a Photoshop user.
22:34 LemPhone Standard Application Interface
22:34 wannabe1987 link
22:34 Cheezmo it's a japanese program that's as good as photoshop, just without text
22:35 Cheezmo and there's english
22:35 Cheezmo http://www.systemax.jp/en/sai/
22:35 BotSteve Title: SYSTEMAX Software Development - PaintTool SAI
22:35 egrsteve|away I HATE FLASH VIDEO!!!!!!!
22:35 egrsteve|away *I HATE FLASH VIDEO!!!!!!!*
22:35 SparkyProjects I lost count of how many Vent-Axia window fans (round version) i stripped down, even taking the motors apart to clean and oil them
22:36 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?featur​e=player_embedded&amp;v=aEgaI6WouQ0
22:36 BotSteve Title: Hat Coil - Tesla Coil On A Hat - YouTube
22:36 egrsteve|away no bold?
22:36 Cheezmo wannabe1987: after install, get me your installation code and I'll e-mail you a copy of the license
22:36 wannabe1987 ok
22:36 Electricguy bedtime!
22:36 Electricguy night all =)
22:36 wannabe1987 night
22:36 LemPhone nite
22:36 Cheezmo cheers, Electricguy
22:57 wannabe1987 Cheezmo will it work on 7?  its not listen in sys req
22:57 Cheezmo should
22:58 wannabe1987 ok
22:58 Cheezmo Windws 7 is pretty much the same as Vista for req's
22:58 Cheezmo if not less
22:58 wannabe1987 wait this puter is xp nvm :P
22:58 Cheezmo lol
22:58 Cheezmo goof
22:59 Seroster The transfer is complete.
22:59 Seroster #TGG_NSFW is closing down due to a name change to TGG:NSFW. The channel and the people will be the same. You don't have to change any scripts that makes you autojoin #TGG_NSFW since it is set to redirect you to TGG:NSFW.
23:00 Seroster Im bored and horny.
23:00 wannabe1987 is it still have  # first?
23:00 Seroster yes
23:01 wannabe1987 ok
23:01 Seroster My bad for missing it in the end
23:01 Seroster =P
23:01 Seroster And in the beginning. Crap.
23:01 wannabe1987 hence why i asked
23:01 Seroster Btw, I think my "people kicked" list just surpassed captainbodens, I just got rid of 20ish people from the old nsfw xD
23:02 wannabe1987 lol
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23:02 egrsteve|away but captain boden has more repeat kicks ;)
23:02 wannabe1987 lo
23:02 wannabe1987 l
23:03 egrsteve|away the man made sport of kicking
23:03 * wannabe1987 was a victim
23:04 CaptainNiobe i was never a victim of boden's kicks... just sero's... lol
23:04 Seroster I do it out of love, CaptainNiobe
23:04 wannabe1987 hi niobe :D
23:04 wannabe1987 lol
23:04 CaptainNiobe hey kelly :)
23:06 wannabe1987 hows you
23:06 egrsteve|away time to start soldering, if you need me yell loudly and repeatedly
23:06 CaptainNiobe i'm good, you?
23:09 wannabe1987 doing well.  i get to spend the night at home weds for thanksgiving thurs :D
23:09 wannabe1987 home = warm place to sleep
23:09 CaptainNiobe lol
23:10 wannabe1987 it was 52 in that room when we left this AM
23:12 Ponko joined #thegeekgroup
23:13 wannabe1987 .in 18hours call HIS and cancel appt
23:13 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind on 18 Nov 2011 at 17:13Z
23:16 wannabe1987 Cheezmo where do i find my installation code?
23:16 Cheezmo in the "Others" menu under System ID
23:16 Cheezmo case-sensitive
23:17 wannabe1987 sent
23:18 Cheezmo and sent :)
23:19 Cheezmo just shove that puppy into the Sai application folder
23:19 * wannabe1987 goes tofigure out SAI
23:22 wannabe1987 lee's email keeps sending me spam.....
23:25 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
23:26 * wannabe1987 can't make the program do what she wants :wahhhh:
23:26 Toastdude :(
23:28 * wannabe1987 goes and tries gimp
23:28 wannabe1987 :P
23:28 Toastdude Gimp!
23:28 masterofmonks wannabe1987: I didn't think you were into BDSM
23:28 wannabe1987 ??
23:29 * masterofmonks whistles innocently.
23:29 * wannabe1987 doesn't want to know
23:29 Toastdude MoM: Buddism? :P
23:30 wannabe1987 no
23:40 douglas joined #thegeekgroup
23:40 astro73|alice .weather
23:40 BotSteve Try .weather London, for example?
23:41 douglas i got a question
23:41 astro73|alice .weather tgg
23:41 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 32.0℉ (0℃), 30.14in (1017mb), Gentle breeze 8kt (↑) - KGRR 22:53Z
23:41 douglas is there a way i can swap the left and right channels for a sterio audio speakers?
23:42 Cheezmo douglas, swap the wires?
23:42 douglas because i just found out that my speakers were set up wrong, and i dont feell ike redoing the wires
23:42 douglas ughh
23:42 Cheezmo what's the source?
23:42 astro73|alice some audio drivers let you swap
23:42 douglas my computer
23:42 wannabe1987 doug!  did you graduate?
23:42 Cheezmo I was gonna say try the drivers
23:43 douglas yes i did wannabe
23:43 wannabe1987 saw photos, congrats!
23:43 douglas ty
23:43 wannabe1987 yw
23:43 Seroster I gotta go folks
23:43 Seroster cay
23:43 wannabe1987 cay
23:43 Seroster ..
23:43 Seroster Cya
23:44 Isopropyl|Media hay all
23:44 tehdark45 joined #thegeekgroup
23:46 astro73|alice hello
23:47 douglas whats a .schematic file?
23:47 Toastdude douglas!
23:47 Cprossu .scm?
23:47 Cprossu or .schematic?
23:47 douglas no ".schematic"
23:48 tehdark45 hello astro73|alice , Cprossu
23:48 douglas i saw space core.scematic dash.scematic and carinana nebula.scematic in my computer, i wasnt sure what it was from
23:49 Cprossu do you play minecraft?
23:49 douglas oohhhhhh
23:49 douglas ye
23:49 douglas ok i know what they are now
23:49 Cprossu http://www.minecraftwiki.net​/wiki/Schematic_File_Format
23:49 BotSteve Title: Schematic File Format - Minecraft Wiki
23:50 wannabe1987 lol
23:50 tonsofpcs mmmm, pierrogies
23:50 * wannabe1987 leaves #TGG:NSFW
23:50 douglas yay
23:50 masterofmonks Heh.
23:51 masterofmonks Ah, douglas is here, he can be the next victim.. er test subject.
23:51 wannabe1987 o.o
23:51 Isopropyl|Media lol
23:51 douglas and again, welcome to the computer aided enrichment center
23:51 Toastdude :D
23:52 tehdark45 douglas, the cake is a lie
23:52 douglas >_>
23:52 tehdark45 LOL
23:52 Toastdude We hope your breif detention in the relaxation vault has been a pleasent one.
23:52 masterofmonks douglas: Join #TGG:NSFW we have cake.
23:52 * Isopropyl|Media places usb drive in enrichment center mainframe uploading a virus
23:52 * Isopropyl|Media walks away
23:52 Toastdude If that's what you consider to be cake, MoM....
23:52 douglas oh my Isopropyl|Media has uploaded weatleyy
23:52 tehdark45 GlaDOS says woah woah woaarrr
23:54 * Isopropyl|Media takes his neurotoxin shot and puts on his gas mask and heads for the parking lot
23:54 dbshortwave <dbshortwave> now she can never look at me the same way again
23:54 wannabe1987 lol
23:54 wannabe1987 i never looked t you....
23:54 dbshortwave lol
23:54 dbshortwave LIES
23:54 * tehdark45 Had a note here
23:55 tehdark45 it was a huge success
23:55 * Toastdude works at Aperture Science
23:55 tehdark45 Toastdude, Black Mesa master race
23:55 tehdark45 :P
23:55 wannabe1987 nope, not lies.  i've never seen your photo....
23:55 dbshortwave its on facebook
23:56 wannabe1987 i looked!
23:56 dbshortwave ive got the spock look
23:56 * Isopropyl|Media is working at Back Mesa in the field of excrement dynamics
23:56 Isopropyl|Media black*
23:57 Isopropyl|Media Our current project, pooping other peoples pants
23:57 KawaiiJess joined #thegeekgroup
23:57 * tehdark45 works as a theoretical physicist with a crowbar
23:57 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
23:57 * Isopropyl|Media poops tehdark45's pants
23:57 Isopropyl|Media It works!
23:57 wannabe1987 NOT MORE SHIT!
23:58 astro73|alice it's so weird. I'm on my girl's computer. The windows don't jiggle!
23:58 tehdark45 WTF?
23:58 wannabe1987 hi KawaiiJess, injektion
23:58 Cheezmo astro73|alice, do explain.....
23:58 astro73|alice (it's a compiz thing)
23:58 injektion Hey wannabe1987
23:58 astro73|alice my desktop at home, I have the wobbly windows plugin for compiz enabled
23:58 tehdark45 Hi Cheezmo
23:58 Cheezmo herro
23:58 astro73|alice so when I drag my windows around
23:58 astro73|alice they jiggle
23:59 tehdark45 Cheezmo, your asian? :P
23:59 astro73|alice but my girl runs windows. her windows don't jiggle
23:59 Cheezmo not quite
23:59 wannabe1987 i've seen that on my bestfriends computer
23:59 wannabe1987 no, but you're closer to asia than i am :P
23:59 KawaiiJess Hi wannabe1987
23:59 Isopropyl|Media hey, some just don't jiggle.
23:59 Cheezmo sure am, especially here
23:59 tehdark45 Cheezmo, wut?

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