Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-18

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00:00 Cheezmo oh, I'm closer to Asia than wannabe :P
00:00 wannabe1987 mhm
00:00 Cheezmo though you're even closer, tehdark45
00:00 * wannabe1987 missed the ahllelujah chorus somehow o.O
00:00 tehdark45 Yes I am
00:00 * wannabe1987 goes back and plays it
00:00 tehdark45 it's about 30KM from me
00:00 wannabe1987 wheres tehdark45 at ?
00:00 tehdark45 lol
00:00 tehdark45 I am in Canada
00:01 wannabe1987 no answer?  ok....
00:01 tehdark45 wannabe1987, i just told you
00:01 Cheezmo right near Canada's Little China
00:01 tonsofpcs where in canada?
00:01 wannabe1987 wheres little china?:P
00:01 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, Artic circle
00:01 tonsofpcs where in canada?
00:01 Toastdude tehdark45: You're on ignore with wannabe.
00:01 tehdark45 BC
00:02 tonsofpcs i didn't think BC entered the arctic circle
00:02 tehdark45 OK can someone tell wannabe1987 that if she wants to know somthing about me unignore me
00:03 tonsofpcs yes
00:03 Toastdude No one wants to know about you, tehdark45
00:03 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs i don't think it does...nunofit and yukon and northwest territories do tho :D
00:04 tonsofpcs nunavut?
00:04 tehdark45 Toastdude, she asked >.>
00:04 wannabe1987 the log is helpful...and tehdark45 i don't want to really know...i though tyou were in asia and were near the *real* china
00:04 Toastdude But I didn't. :P
00:04 wannabe1987 yes tonsofpcs
00:04 Cprossu rofl
00:04 wannabe1987 they see me trollin, they haitin
00:05 Cprossu seems like you be doin' the hatin' tonight wannabe1987 (heh)
00:05 wannabe1987 no, i only dislike one person, really, cuz they troll
00:05 tonsofpcs stop distracting me, my butter is burning (on the pierrogies)
00:05 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: you disliike other trolls for different reasons?
00:05 * wannabe1987 posts lots of distractions for tonsofpcs
00:05 wannabe1987 :shrug:
00:06 wannabe1987 the trolls here sing trolololololololololol
00:07 tehdark45 Well i am not a troll so...
00:07 wannabe1987 lolol people stealing sewer grate covers
00:07 dbshortwave pffft
00:07 wannabe1987 scrappers!
00:07 dbshortwave that one hell of a pothole
00:07 wannabe1987 lol
00:08 wannabe1987 tehdark45, you may not be, but you sure as hell act like one
00:08 dbshortwave they must be taking them to ohio
00:08 wannabe1987 ?
00:08 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32UGD0fV45g
00:08 BotSteve Title: Edward Khil - original Trolololol - YouTube
00:08 dbshortwave Ohio intersate and rodeways = pothole hell
00:08 wannabe1987 ahhh
00:08 wannabe1987 yeah
00:08 * wannabe1987 should know this
00:09 dbshortwave lol
00:09 * wannabe1987 lived there for a year and a half
00:09 * wannabe1987 can't typ!
00:10 Toastdude ...
00:10 wannabe1987 see?
00:17 tonsofpcs mmmmmm
00:17 tehdark45 mmm?
00:17 tonsofpcs dbshortwave: eh, ohio interstates weren't too bad when I drove them.
00:18 tonsofpcs tehdark45: I just ate some pierogi
00:18 Hackbat Gentlemen, I assume you know why we are all gathered here today.
00:18 tonsofpcs dbshortwave: mind you, I've driven in the bronx...
00:18 tehdark45 perogis are bland
00:18 dbshortwave drive 77 and part of st rt 8
00:18 wannabe1987 seee?????  troll!
00:19 wannabe1987 Hackbat i'm not a gentleman
00:19 tonsofpcs drive the major degan during rush hour.
00:19 dbshortwave hell NY aint no better
00:19 tehdark45 Hackbat, to geek out?
00:19 Hackbat We must KILL THE BATMAN!
00:19 tonsofpcs ok, Mr. J.
00:20 wannabe1987 which one
00:20 Hackbat I was thinking along the lines on the Penguin
00:20 Hackbat :P
00:20 tehdark45 Hackbat, were gona do Linux through IRC?
00:20 wannabe1987 i was wondering if the comic book one or the tgg one
00:21 tonsofpcs but Mistah Jayyyyy
00:21 * Hackbat watched batman returns last night
00:21 tonsofpcs oh
00:21 tonsofpcs I'm sorry
00:22 Hackbat hmm?
00:22 Hackbat i loved it
00:22 Hackbat it was stupid
00:22 Hackbat and fun
00:22 tehdark45 Batman Returned.. To change the plugs on a stage light
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00:29 tehdark45 So wat you guys up to?
00:31 tonsofpcs tehdark45: from what to what?
00:32 tehdark45 hmm?
00:34 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, what do you mean?
00:46 wannabe1987 http://looneytunes09.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/dogs_gets_blanket1.gif
00:51 tonsofpcs tehdark45: you said he changed the stingers, from what to what?
00:52 tehdark45 From the stage plug on the light to a standard wall socket
00:52 tehdark45 wall pplug*
00:53 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, you watch captins blog 16 nov?
00:53 tonsofpcs maybe
00:54 tehdark45 if you did you woould get it
00:55 tonsofpcs I would get what? that you have no clue what connectors you're talking about?
00:55 LemPhone joined #thegeekgroup
00:56 Toastdude Hi LemPhone
00:56 LemPhone yay, all the banking sorted
00:56 LemPhone fingers crossed I should have a HSBNE credit card in about a week
00:57 tonsofpcs NE?
00:57 LemPhone ..?
00:57 Cprossu sooo
00:58 tehdark45 hey Cprossu
01:01 tonsofpcs ooos
01:02 LemPhone tons, hsbne == Hackerspace Brisbane
01:02 astro73|alice god, git is awesome. I think I just successfully pulled a minor hack
01:02 LemPhone I've been president for 18 months and still don't have a group credit card
01:03 astro73|alice git reset <hash>; git pull upstream master; git push --force
01:05 tehdark45 LemPhone, bad credit?
01:05 LemPhone no
01:05 LemPhone just the bank being retarded
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01:06 tonsofpcs LemPhone: ah
01:06 tonsofpcs they issue creedit cards?
01:06 tonsofpcs or is it a card for the space?
01:06 LemPhone it's actually just a debit card, to make purchases from the group account
01:07 tehdark45 Wow
01:07 LemPhone being president I kinda need one
01:07 LemPhone as I am responsible for day to day running of the group
01:08 NeWtoz nah
01:08 tehdark45 LemPhone, i think you should switch banks. If they cant get you a simple debit card, imagine what they will do with your money
01:09 LemPhone tehdark, part of it has been procrastination on our part, but we have put the forms in a couple of times
01:09 LemPhone if we don't get it this time I will spit chips
01:09 tehdark45 LemPhone, this sounds like your dealing with an African bank
01:09 tehdark45 lol
01:09 LemPhone bbiab, gotta get off the bus
01:10 tonsofpcs i'd be more impressed if he spit fish
01:11 tonsofpcs so does anyone here blog about IT stuff (and have a following)?
01:11 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, Chris Pirillo
01:11 tonsofpcs is he here?
01:11 tehdark45 Oh here
01:12 tehdark45 didnt see that part
01:12 tehdark45 lol
01:12 tehdark45 no
01:12 tehdark45 not that I know of
01:13 tehdark45 YNos should start one
01:13 yNos start one what?
01:13 tehdark45 a tech blog thing
01:13 Toastdude What does he say at the end of his videos?
01:13 yNos just got back
01:14 tehdark45 yNos, tonsofpcs wants to know if anyone on here does tach stuff online nad have a following
01:14 tehdark45 tech*
01:15 astro73|alice i'd have a blog, but i have no idea what i'd write
01:15 yNos i used to post to send4help.net
01:15 yNos but they wanted to go more trendy
01:15 yNos i wanted to go more tech
01:15 Toastdude astro73|mal: same...
01:15 tehdark45 yNos, star one about the day to day IT stuff of TGG
01:15 tehdark45 start*
01:15 tehdark45 lol
01:16 yNos i am sure there are some insomniacs somewhere that would need it. i am sure they can only play golf for so many hours in the dat..
01:16 yNos s/dat/day/g
01:17 wannabe1987 i have a phood (read: food) blog
01:18 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
01:19 masterofmuffins Hello
01:20 wannabe1987 ...
01:20 Cprossu now we have a masterofmuffins?
01:20 * wannabe1987 noms on masterofmuffins
01:20 * Cprossu pukes
01:20 masterofmuffins :(
01:20 masterofmuffins Lol
01:20 Cprossu they must have been toasted muffins
01:21 wannabe1987 lol
01:21 wannabe1987 i like putting muffins in the microwave....then they're warm :D
01:21 masterofmuffins Lol :D
01:22 wannabe1987 and butter melts on them
01:22 wannabe1987 and soooo yummy
01:22 wannabe1987 so i'm going home next weds and spending the night weds night and i get a house with HEAT and an OVEN...i might make cookies
01:22 wannabe1987 or muffins
01:22 wannabe1987 or something
01:22 wannabe1987 or both
01:23 yNos does anyone have a few LOW-500 pf caps laying around?
01:24 * wannabe1987 checks pockets
01:24 wannabe1987 nope, sorry
01:24 Cprossu nope.
01:24 Cprossu yNos when you get back home?
01:27 yNos am home now
01:28 yNos i donated a roller-inductor today.. we need to get some air-variables to make an antenna tuner.
01:29 yNos props if we can make it automatic with 3 steppers and a microcontroller.
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01:29 egrsteve|away hello
01:29 masterofmuffins Bats!
01:29 Cprossu hey egrsteve|away
01:30 tehdark45 hello egrsteve|away
01:30 Bat-Mobile hey!
01:30 yNos STEVE!
01:30 yNos Have you figured out how we are going to make some air-variables?
01:31 Bat-Mobile herp derp?
01:31 Bat-Mobile what?
01:31 egrsteve|away with the mill
01:31 yNos mill==overkill.
01:31 egrsteve|away some copper or brass, uhmw
01:31 astro73|alice hey steve, steve.
01:31 egrsteve|away a few servos, maybe a encoder or two
01:32 egrsteve|away what else can we add to them?
01:32 egrsteve|away hi astro
01:32 egrsteve|away ah yes overvoltage protection, ect
01:32 egrsteve|away and maybe an inductor, all air variable caps need an inductor
01:33 yNos we have a nice one
01:33 egrsteve|away a nice cap?
01:34 yNos we dont have nice caps..
01:34 yNos we do have a 3kw roller inductor though
01:34 astro73|alice Bats, I feel like I gained a level in git usage today. `git reset <hash>; git pull upstream master; git push --force`
01:35 Cprossu GIT: astro73|alice has leveled up!!
01:36 Bat-Mobile bwuh?
01:36 Bat-Mobile Where were you forcepushing to?
01:36 egrsteve|away making a good cap shouldn't be that hard
01:36 BatSteven joined #thegeekgroup
01:37 Bat-Mobile I mean, I understand reset, I do that all the time
01:37 Bat-Mobile and pull, yes
01:37 Bat-Mobile but then you're pushing...back up to upstream?
01:37 yNos i think butterfly caps would be the easiest
01:38 yNos a turns counter would be nice too.. but not nessisart
01:39 Cprossu hrmmm
01:39 Cprossu egrsteve|away and yNos we'll have to ask moose if our yt account does live yet.
01:39 Cprossu haven't thought about it for a long while
01:40 egrsteve|away hmm, good question
01:41 wannabe1987 .tfw 48850
01:41 BotSteve 30°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Lakeview, MI!  'Call your local travel agency and ask them if they're serious.'
01:41 tehdark45 .tfwc v4a9x3
01:41 yNos what does it take to stream to yt?
01:41 BotSteve 3°C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Surrey, BC, !  'I'm sorry.'
01:42 Bat-Mobile tehdark45: outside the USA, use your city name rather than your postal code
01:43 tehdark45 Bat-Mobile, howcome?
01:43 Bat-Mobile Because I haven't programmed support for non-US postal codes yet
01:43 tehdark45 Oh ok
01:44 Bat-Mobile .yt die hard music video movie 4
01:44 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5in09EwYV0
01:45 Bat-Mobile Excellent song
01:45 wannabe1987 .g trans siberian orchestra
01:45 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://trans-siberian.com/
01:45 tehdark45 Die Hard is the best action movie series
01:46 Bat-Mobile Dorky things that I did not know:  "Die Hard" and "Commando" take place in the same universe
01:49 SparkyProjects1 joined #thegeekgroup
01:49 Bat-Mobile hmm. it's been a while since I've seen Die Hard 3
01:50 tehdark45 What is the third one? I know 1 is the tower, 2 is the plane and 4 is the cyber attack
01:50 Bat-Mobile the 3rd one is the one with the bombs all around the city
01:50 tehdark45 Ah yes
01:51 masterofmuffins .tfw 61548
01:51 BotSteve 30°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Metamora, IL!  'THO Season.'
01:52 Sgt_Lemming home now
01:52 masterofmuffins Yes lwq1996
01:52 masterofmuffins Hi Sgt_Lemming
01:52 Sgt_Lemming lo
01:52 Sgt_Lemming howsit?
01:52 tehdark45 Woo its Sgt_Lemming
01:53 Sgt_Lemming indeed it is tehdark45
01:53 tehdark45 the residnt aussie :P
01:53 masterofmuffins It'sgood
01:53 SparkyProjects joined #thegeekgroup
01:53 masterofmuffins :P
01:53 masterofmuffins Hi Sparky
01:54 Sgt_Lemming one of tehdark45, there are a few of us
01:54 tehdark45 Well atm at least
01:54 Sgt_Lemming lol
01:55 tehdark45 So what you up to
01:55 Sgt_Lemming just got home
01:56 Sgt_Lemming stopped and had coffee at the local coffee place
01:56 Sgt_Lemming the guy who runs it is kind of amusing, if a bit of a wanker :-P
01:56 tehdark45 lol
01:56 yNos in and around the lake
01:56 tehdark45 i didnt know that was possible
01:56 yNos mountains come out of the sky
01:57 SparkyProjects Hi masterofmuffins, busy clearing a banlist of a few thousnad atm :P
01:57 masterofmuffins Haha :P
01:57 lwq1996 masterofmuffins?
01:57 masterofmuffins Yes Lee?
01:58 lwq1996 nothing nothing
01:58 masterofmuffins :P
01:58 lwq1996 OK...WHY THE NAME
01:58 * astro73|alice blames wannabe1987
01:58 lwq1996 lol
01:58 tehdark45 SparkyProjects, what kind of banlist?
01:59 lwq1996 .seen your_momma
01:59 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen your_momma around.
01:59 lwq1996 how shes so big though
01:59 SparkyProjects Each one i want to clear i have to tick each box individually, we had a spate of ad spammers last year, must be a couple of thousand at least, well maybe nearer 5000
01:59 SparkyProjects Problem is the banlist page takes time to load :P
01:59 SparkyProjects tehdark45:  I'm staff on a support forum
01:59 tehdark45 Ah
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02:00 tehdark45 So why you clearing it>
02:00 tehdark45 ?*
02:00 wannabe1987 i didn't do anything!
02:01 SparkyProjects Most are a few years old, those 'members' are unlikely to be back, so i'm clearing most of them so the page loads without crashing the browser
02:01 SparkyProjects I'll keep the last years worth
02:01 masterofmuffins Lol wannabe
02:02 wabbane1987 Hello wannabe
02:04 wannabe1987 ....
02:05 dbshortwave ?.?
02:06 tehdark45 !.!
02:06 * dbshortwave WANDERS OFF
02:06 dbshortwave oops caps
02:08 astro73|alice why is capslock still a key? who uses it?
02:08 wannabe-afk lee
02:09 astro73|alice i would argue that computer communication would be improved by the removal of capslock
02:09 egrsteve|away BUT CAPS LOCK IS CRUSE CONTROL FOR COOL
02:09 Bat-Mobile Bind capslock to the shift stickykey
02:09 Bat-Mobile you have to whack it three or four times to get it to stay on
02:10 Bat-Mobile That's my vote
02:10 Bat-Mobile DESPITE HOW MUCH I LOVE CRUISE CONTROL
02:10 astro73|alice my chromebook replaced capslock with new tab; you have to use both shift keys to get capslock
02:10 astro73|alice (which still happens to me occasionally)
02:11 wabbane1987 Bye wannabe!
02:11 Bat-Mobile That's a great idea
02:11 astro73|alice i want to rebind my capslock key on my desktop, but i haven't bothered to figure out how
02:12 Bat-Mobile astro73 - what OS?
02:12 astro73|alice linux mint
02:13 Monkeh Oh, wow, do you guys need a new chop saw or what.
02:13 Bat-Mobile hmmm...xkeycaps is the canonical answer, but I've never used it.  KDE has a config option that lets me do it instead
02:14 * Bat-Mobile finishes merging BotSteve code, and is ready to run the JSONupdate scripts
02:14 astro73|alice yeah; X.org probably has something. I already have an x.conf, so it wouldn't be much
02:15 wannabe-afk ...
02:16 egrsteve|away meth scrappers are at it again http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/Rash-of-catch-basin-grate-thefts-in-GR
02:16 BotSteve Title: Rash of catch basin grate thefts in GR | WOOD TV8
02:17 westmi joined #thegeekgroup
02:19 lwq1996 hey ynos you still here
02:19 * Bat-Mobile reboots the bot
02:19 BotSteve joined #thegeekgroup
02:19 wannabe1987 jingle bells!
02:20 astro73|alice hello, BotSteve
02:20 astro73|alice BotSteve: Are you feeling ok?
02:20 wannabe1987 hi BotSteve!
02:20 BotSteve Hey wannabe1987
02:20 lwq1996 kik
02:20 lwq1996 damn it
02:20 lwq1996 lol
02:20 astro73|alice .seen dbshortwave
02:20 BotSteve astro73|alice: I last saw dbshortwave 0.24 hours ago at 2011-11-18 02:06:25 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:20:47 UTC
02:20 dbshortwave o.o
02:21 astro73|alice what? surprised?
02:21 dbshortwave @ wannabe1987 batman smells ... robin laid an egg
02:21 Sgt_Lemming anyone reccomend a decent hdd checker for windows?
02:22 masterofmuffins .cake Group
02:22 BotSteve Here you go, Group, I baked you an almond amaretto cream cake!
02:23 dbshortwave hirens has a good one Sgt_Lemming
02:23 astro73|alice you know, for radically changing databases, that was really smooth and painless
02:23 * lwq1996 slaps ynos
02:23 Bat-Mobile that was pretty fantastic
02:23 masterofmuffins .insult
02:23 BotSteve Hey, masterofmuffins, how many different kinds of stupid are you trying to be?
02:23 Bat-Mobile I'm extremely happy
02:23 Sgt_Lemming dbshortwave, headless server running windows, I really don't want to have to drag it to a monitor/mouse/keyboard
02:23 masterofmuffins BotSteve: Many
02:23 dbshortwave ah
02:24 astro73|alice i'm going to chalk it up to how talented of a programmer I am. That was totally it.
02:24 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i go to IA to take care of my grandma's brother?
02:24 BotSteve Nope
02:24 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i go to IA to take care of my grandma's brother?
02:24 BotSteve Nope
02:24 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i go to IA to take care of my grandma's brother?
02:24 BotSteve No way
02:24 wannabe1987 FUCK YOU BOT
02:25 lwq1996 lol
02:25 lwq1996 haha
02:25 lwq1996 jk
02:25 masterofmuffins BotSteve: should Kelly go to IA to take care of my grandma's brother?
02:25 BotSteve Ask again later!
02:25 masterofmuffins BotSteve: should Kelly go to IA to take care of my grandma's brother?
02:25 lwq1996 lol
02:25 BotSteve Definitely
02:25 masterofmuffins There you go wannabe! :P
02:26 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Vfxuk8x_A
02:26 BotSteve Title: The Dubliners - The Sick Note - YouTube
02:26 Hackbat love this damn song
02:26 yNos Dubliners ftw
02:26 masterofmuffins .yt no children the mountain goats
02:26 BotSteve masterofmuffins: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRP6egIEABk
02:26 masterofmuffins :D
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02:27 lwq1996 ynos...i think i may know where you could get some caps with them specs
02:27 Hackbat it's a perfect example of workplace safety and physics
02:27 wannabe1987 but theres cj's schooling to think about also...how's he gonna get to school if i'm not around?
02:27 wannabe1987 he cannot under no circumstances take my car 1) expired lic 2) can't drive stick
02:29 yNos yeah?
02:30 yNos so why cant you use a stick? dont want to or never had the option?
02:30 lwq1996 yeah...try justin...the kid with the tesla coils
02:30 lwq1996 he may have some
02:30 yNos i will have to ask him
02:30 wannabe1987 cj can't drive stick.  i do everyday
02:31 yNos i might see him this weekend.
02:31 wannabe1987 he'll be there
02:31 yNos ahh
02:31 yNos not sure if i will be there this weekend.
02:31 yNos i have my daughter and would like to take her to see family, not watch me work at tgg
02:32 lwq1996 ah
02:32 wannabe1987 mhm
02:32 yNos see family or go for a picnic, or whatever
02:32 lwq1996 thats always good
02:32 lwq1996 i would do the fanily thing...
02:32 Sgt_Lemming yNos, sifn't take her to see thumper/stomper etc
02:32 wannabe1987 family > tgg
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02:33 * lwq1996 jumps on ponkos back and rides him like a horsey
02:33 masterofmuffins PONKO!
02:33 wannabe1987 ...
02:33 lwq1996 lol
02:33 SparkyProjects joined #thegeekgroup
02:34 * wannabe1987 has a sad now
02:34 lwq1996 ?
02:34 masterofmuffins WANNABE!
02:34 lwq1996 i wonder why my room is so cold
02:35 * wannabe1987 lays down
02:35 tehdark45 lwq1996, pilot light go out>
02:35 tehdark45 ?*
02:35 lwq1996 what?
02:36 tehdark45 DO you have a furnace or  heat pump lwq1996
02:37 lwq1996 OH...NOW I KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT
02:37 tehdark45 caps?
02:37 tehdark45 lol
02:37 lwq1996 cappacitors
02:37 lwq1996 or how ever you spell it
02:37 tehdark45 lol
02:37 lwq1996 i do have a furnace but its just my room thats cold
02:38 lwq1996 and the heat run i open
02:38 yNos She has been there, got to hit the big red button of science and make thumper go boom.
02:38 lwq1996 lol
02:38 tehdark45 lwq1996, hit big red button of science. All your problems will go away
02:38 yNos she liked it.. but i dont think there'd be much for her to do there.
02:39 lwq1996 lol
02:39 tehdark45 your room will magically jump 5 degrees
02:39 tehdark45 in temp
02:39 lwq1996 yup
02:39 lwq1996 but then i will choke because of the metal fumes
02:39 SparkyProjects joined #thegeekgroup
02:40 lwq1996 sparky you having connection issues or something?
02:40 tehdark45 lwq1996, well you can sleep good then :P
02:40 lwq1996 lol
02:41 Monkeh lwq1996: He's on BT. Of course he has connection issues.
02:41 tehdark45 Lol nice english me. You can sleep well*
02:41 wannabe1987 sparky should be asleep.....
02:41 lwq1996 lol
02:41 SparkyProjects Yep, had them for a couple of weeks, engineers have made it better, but i may have to call them again tomorrow
02:41 SparkyProjects They still have the job open
02:42 tehdark45 SparkyProjects, hows the porn button? :P
02:42 SparkyProjects What's porn ?
02:42 SparkyProjects :P
02:42 tehdark45 The activate access to pron thing
02:42 tehdark45 in UK
02:42 lwq1996 lol
02:43 tehdark45 Hi Monkeh
02:47 Ponko wait what?
02:47 tehdark45 huh?
02:48 Ponko porn button? o_O
02:48 Monkeh tehdark45: Hallo
02:49 tehdark45 Ponko, your gvt is pushing for a call to access porn for ISPs
02:49 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Calling many of these people engineers is blasphemy. ;)
02:50 Ponko yeah tehdark45 that's applicable only in NSFW
02:50 tehdark45 Yeah, they are Monkehs with a phone for the most part
02:50 * dbshortwave hugs his tower
02:50 tehdark45 see what i did there>
02:50 tehdark45 ?*
02:50 SparkyProjects Engineers is a broad term, i was in engineering, but i was a technician
02:50 SparkyProjects I don't know the guy's skill level, so engineers covers it
02:52 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Skill level: Using a cable tacker. ;)
02:53 wannabe1987 gotta go
02:53 wannabe1987 ttul
02:54 SparkyProjects These guys use more than a cable tacker, they use diagnostic equipment
02:56 Monkeh SparkyProjects: They're also the same guys who lose cables in underground ducts and trap them under faceplates.
02:57 TehEat45 bbl
02:57 yNos anyone else get arduino clones from modern device?
02:57 yNos http://shop.moderndevice.com/products/bbb-kit
02:57 BotSteve Title: Bare Bones Board Kit | Modern Device
02:58 yNos imho they charge too damn much for the arduinos
02:58 Monkeh yNos: Because they can get away with it
02:59 yNos i know why they do it.. i am not against people making a buck.
02:59 yNos but there are cheaper places to go..
02:59 yNos http://shop.moderndevice.com/products/jeelabs-ether-card
02:59 BotSteve Title: JeeLabs Ether Card | Modern Device
02:59 yNos hell, the network card is much cheaper..
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03:00 SparkyProjects1 They don't do underground cables.
03:00 SparkyProjects1 Even though my internet is via the phone line, one team do phones, another does broadband, another are the line team
03:00 SparkyProjects1 The broadband guys may replace the wire from house to pole, but that's it as far as cable running.
03:00 Monkeh SparkyProjects1: Such efficiency.
03:01 tonsofpcs so, I just saw an ad for an OnStar mirror, like it's onstar in just a stick on mirror.  They were promoting the vehicle tracking feature for stolen cars.....
03:02 Cprossu so what plots of evil are unfolding here?
03:03 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects1: RG6? 11? TP?
03:03 tonsofpcs LMR?
03:03 Monkeh tonsofpcs: .. It's a phone line.
03:04 tonsofpcs note: engineers design systems, technicians use systems.
03:05 SparkyProjects1 twisted pair
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03:09 tonsofpcs I wish our telco would replace the lines to the street when we have issues....
03:09 sndwrx tonsofpcs: Link me to the OnStar thing?
03:11 Cprossu .g onstar FMV
03:11 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.onstar.com/web/portal/onstarfmv
03:11 Cprossu wow that was fail
03:12 sndwrx This webpage has a redirect loop
03:12 sndwrx I'm so tempted to paste the entire page of gibberish into here.
03:12 Cprossu hence that was fail
03:12 masterofmuffins Hi sndwrx
03:12 tonsofpcs http://www.onstar.com/web/fmv/home?seo=goo_|_2008_OnStar_UpFront_|_OnStar_FMV_|_General,_Price_and_Plan_%28BBM%29_|_+onstar_+fmv
03:12 BotSteve Title: Navigation System | Auto Security | Emergency Services | OnStar FMV
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03:12 masterofmuffins Wb tgg|yNos
03:13 tonsofpcs y Nots!
03:13 sndwrx They didn't offer aftermarket add-ons when I worked in the industry.
03:13 sndwrx I'm curious to see this mirror.
03:13 Cprossu $19-$30 a month?!?!!?!?!?!
03:13 Cprossu they must be crazy
03:13 tonsofpcs Cprossu: don't worry, that subsidizes the mirror so you're paying $299 instead of the $399 retail price!
03:14 sndwrx I'm looking at a price tag of $199.
03:14 tonsofpcs oh, sorry, $199 instead of $299
03:14 sndwrx Although I didn't look closely at the fine print.
03:14 Bat-Mobile brb
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03:15 Cprossu lol yNos so you got a permanent rig at tgg now?
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03:15 Cprossu hey producerbill feeling better?
03:15 producerbill ya, doing radio show tonight as well
03:15 BotSteve producerbill: I have the following messages for you:
03:15 BotSteve At 16 Nov 17:06Z, Cprossu asked me to tell producerbill get better soon!
03:15 sndwrx I suspect it's more than just "stick on".
03:16 sndwrx It probably attaches to the mirror tab glued to the windshield.
03:16 Cprossu cool.
03:16 masterofmuffins Hi producerbill
03:16 tonsofpcs sndwrx: looks like stick-on and wire-run for power
03:16 masterofmuffins What's the radio channel address?
03:16 sndwrx Well, not all vehicles have the mirror attached to the windshield but most.
03:17 tonsofpcs masterofmuffins: FM://88-108.MHz/ ? :)
03:17 astro73|alice I figured it would be cellular
03:17 masterofmuffins Lol
03:17 Cprossu considering it 'needs professional installation'
03:18 Cprossu I bet there's more going on than just the mirror
03:18 sndwrx Yeah it's attached to the factory mirror mount.
03:18 tonsofpcs Cprossu: right, you need to run wires behind the dash to tap into the radio and power circuits
03:18 producerbill hi
03:18 astro73|alice we have a ranking member of TGG in the channel? When was the last time that happened?
03:18 BatSteve sup
03:19 Cprossu astro73|alice: shush.
03:19 BatSteve wait, someone's a ranking member here?
03:19 sndwrx I doubt they've gone so far, but it may also tie into the VSS and tach, and may even have a thermometer to mount under the hood.
03:19 Cprossu sndwrx: recall onstar also has crash detection and OBD capabilities
03:20 sndwrx Not OBD to my knowledge, but with the CAN network it's entirely possible.
03:20 sndwrx But yeah crash detection which could be as simple as VSS and tach sensing.
03:21 yNos anyone know how many amps something like thumper/stomper/gemani draw?
03:21 yNos per phase..
03:21 Cprossu thumper draws less than a microwave oven
03:21 yNos http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/noninvasive-ac-current-sensor-100a-max-p-547.html?cPath=6
03:21 BotSteve Title: Non-invasive AC current sensor (100A max) [THM105C4B] - $11.50 : Seeed Studio Bazaar, Boost ideas, extend the reach
03:21 astro73|alice crash detection? wouldn't that be just looking for an accelerometer to exceed a value?
03:22 Cprossu and if the airbags deployed
03:22 Cprossu that's always been a onstar commercial thing...
03:22 * sndwrx nods.
03:22 sndwrx Right, but I don't know how it senses that.
03:23 sndwrx It may just be an assumption that the bags deployed if the VSS was reporting 60MPH and the tach reported 1200RPM then they both dropped to zero instantly.
03:24 astro73|alice like I said. If a linear accelerometer exceeds a value, it's pretty reasonable it crashed
03:24 sndwrx I'd be interested to see the wiring schematic for that mirror.
03:24 sndwrx astro73|alice: Yeah, but 15 years ago when they began installing OnStar, I don't think it was using technology like that.
03:25 astro73|alice oh, are they that new?
03:25 sndwrx Approximately 15-16 years ago.
03:25 sndwrx Whereas vehicle speed sense and tachometer have been sensors in cars for virtually an eternity.
03:25 sndwrx Cruise controls use them both.
03:26 sndwrx Remote starters use tach.
03:26 sndwrx etc.
03:27 sndwrx I kind of miss doing that kind of work.
03:27 tehdark45 Hello I have returned
03:27 sndwrx It's too stressful without satisfactory pay.
03:27 sndwrx hi tehdark45
03:28 tehdark45 hey sndwrx
03:28 tonsofpcs yNos: input or output?
03:28 BatSteve BotSteve: ask lwq1996 why his computer is sending me spam
03:28 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when lwq1996 is around.
03:29 yNos tonsofpcs: what are you asking?
03:29 tonsofpcs you asked about current on HVL stuff
03:30 masterofmuffins He had a virus iirc BatSteve
03:30 BatSteve ah
03:30 yNos input
03:30 Cprossu door locks too I see sndwrx, easy too
03:31 Cprossu BatSteve: lol. this surprises you how?
03:31 BatSteve it doesn't
03:31 tonsofpcs i want a constant-tach 'cruise control'
03:31 Cprossu he seems to collect them
03:32 sndwrx Cprossu: Easier in some cars than others.
03:32 sndwrx Cprossu: Most are simply either positive or negative trigger, but others require pretty extensive wiring.
03:32 Cprossu sndwrx: I've had to clean up many botched alarm installs before
03:32 sndwrx That's the work I did for more than a decade.
03:33 Ponko dude BatSteve my man
03:33 Cprossu Anyone I see using scotchlock connectors immediately gets my hatred.
03:33 sndwrx yeah t-taps are a big no-no.
03:33 sndwrx But it's pretty common with many installers, especially in high-pace, high-pressure shops.
03:33 Cprossu last time I worked on a acura TL....
03:33 Cprossu the guy cut several ECU lines
03:33 sndwrx I've cleaned up work from basically every shop around Grand Rapids.
03:34 Cprossu man it was a mess
03:34 tonsofpcs scotchlock?
03:34 Cprossu took me 6 hours to go through the harness.
03:34 tonsofpcs *googles*
03:34 Cprossu and fix everything
03:34 tonsofpcs oh, those things
03:34 sndwrx tonsofpcs: http://tinyurl.com/7aqngom
03:34 BotSteve Title: scotch lock - Google Search
03:34 Cprossu http://www.etrailer.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/pics/8/0/804c_2_500.jpg
03:35 BatSteve Ponko: yo!
03:35 tonsofpcs hmm, i havent seen that shape
03:35 tonsofpcs but still :(
03:35 sndwrx Can't think off-hand of anything on a TL ECU that one would need except possibly tach wire.
03:36 Cprossu nothing makes me rage more than to see scotch locks or wires fed around the door and through the fender sndwrx.
03:36 sndwrx ha.  Tell me about it.
03:36 Cprossu once ...
03:36 Cprossu once....
03:36 Cprossu I had an amp
03:36 Cprossu fuse was NEXT TO THE AMP IN THE TRUNK
03:36 sndwrx You know how many stereos get installed by running 4GA amp wire through a door jamb with no fuse on the battery?
03:37 egrsteve|away too many
03:37 sndwrx about 90% of them.
03:37 Cprossu it was a ought wire run down through the car underneath the seats
03:37 Cprossu ....
03:37 Cprossu all the way to the batt.
03:37 Cprossu fuse was at the end in the trunk.
03:37 sndwrx nice.
03:37 Cprossu like it does any good there?!
03:37 sndwrx At least it had a fuse!
03:37 * sndwrx snickers.
03:37 SparkyProjects1 I would guess all that catch fire are wired like that :D
03:38 Cprossu ooooh that reminds me of another vehicle
03:38 sndwrx SparkyProjects1: Unfortunately not enough to make an impact on people.
03:38 Cprossu a 1982 camero
03:38 Cprossu this one takes the cake
03:38 egrsteve|away lead acid battery + welding cable hmm
03:38 Cprossu the fusable link down by the starter that feeds the interior fuseblock burned up right?
03:38 Cprossu (following me so far?)
03:38 Cprossu this feeds the ignition too
03:38 SparkyProjects1 yep
03:38 Cprossu sooooooooo.
03:38 BatSteve astro73|alice: I'm following you through the issues list closing things in your wake
03:39 BatSteve it's like a trail of bodies
03:39 BatSteve (:
03:39 Cprossu this is a old GM HEI system
03:39 Cprossu he T-ed off the end going to the ignition module
03:39 astro73|alice I figured with such a long list, I should at least go through and see what could get cleaned up
03:39 Cprossu ran a feed to a toggle switch
03:39 Cprossu from the batt
03:39 Cprossu and backfed the fuseblock
03:39 astro73|alice is stuff tagged BUG still bugs?
03:39 sndwrx awesome.
03:39 Cprossu and wondered why nothing worked right
03:39 Cprossu and that he was blowing 30A fuses
03:40 BatSteve dunno.  Checking now.
03:40 SparkyProjects1 :P
03:40 Cprossu fixing the symptom.
03:40 Cprossu dumbasses.
03:40 BatSteve astro73|alice: yes.  all three "BUG" issues actually are still-alive bugs to the best of my knowledge
03:41 Ponko man i want to kill my sister
03:41 Cprossu and it gets me pissed off whenever I see a HID kit on a car too
03:41 tonsofpcs wait, he t'd a fusible link?
03:41 Cprossu talk about your botched installs sndwrx.
03:41 sndwrx Something I could never say enough when I worked that industry, and people looked at me like I was stupid, is "No one claims they can, or attempts their own open-heart surgery... But everyone knows how to install a stereo."
03:41 Cprossu the fusable link went *poof* because the ignition coil shorted out long story short.
03:41 Cprossu is what I decided
03:42 sndwrx Yeah well HID was a pretty big fad for a while.  Unreputable shops and backyard mechanics patch 'em into the existing headlights with t-taps.
03:42 SparkyProjects1 I had a neighbour who installed his CB, didn't have a fuse at the battery end, he caused a short and the wire overheated, to save his car from catching fire he grabbed the cables and pulled them out.
03:42 SparkyProjects1 Ever grabbed a hot cheesewire ?
03:42 Cprossu exactly sndwrx
03:42 Cprossu then they don't have low beams and high beams.
03:42 * dbshortwave snickers
03:42 sndwrx Well, many of the HID kits are only one beam.
03:42 Ponko BatSteve would there be any point for me going with my sister to the drop zone when i have a stinking cold?
03:43 BatSteve Drop zone?
03:43 Ponko skydiving drop zone
03:43 Cprossu lol I remember when I installed a car alarm in my car temporarily sndwrx
03:43 dbshortwave the main thing is with HID do you really need highbeams?
03:43 tonsofpcs the hardest part of installing a stereo is placement.
03:44 sndwrx It's just fine to utilize the factory headlamp wiring, but you have to know what you're doing.
03:44 Cprossu I put the horn and everything in my dash behind my speedo
03:44 sndwrx dbshortwave: Yes because the beam projection pattern is different depending on which bucket it's installed into.
03:44 tonsofpcs sndwrx: like people actually focus their headlamps anymore....
03:44 dbshortwave to be honest HId is too bright for a lowbeam application
03:45 Ponko but my gf looks sooo peaceful sleeping
03:45 Cprossu I find that details get blurred out the cooler the HID is
03:45 sndwrx I used to wire relays that would keep low beams on when high beams are activated, because they illuminate the sides and immediately in front of the vehicle better than high alone.
03:45 Cprossu drives me nuts
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03:45 dbshortwave if you are in NY CAN you adjust them without haveing to replace them ?
03:45 BatSteve Ponko: is it her first time?
03:46 Cprossu and there's nothing like getting blasted by someone's illegal non-dot approved HID when it's freaking dark in the middle of the night with no street lighting.
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03:46 tonsofpcs sndwrx: my car i can do that by holding the light switch in the middle of the two (there's a slight overlap in the contacts).  I should just rewire it...
03:46 Ponko BatSteve no she has an A License
03:46 BatSteve Then no
03:46 BatSteve stay home
03:46 sndwrx I've never had a problem with detail loss, I find detail and edges are more obvious the higher the K, but the higher your go the more difficult to see pavement and lines on pavement when it's wet.
03:47 tonsofpcs Cprossu: they could be the yellow things...
03:47 sndwrx tonsofpcs: Yep, some cars can do that.
03:47 Ponko but my dad needs company he's driving here there
03:47 Ponko her*
03:48 sndwrx tonsofpcs: Some models are already designed that way (all four beams simultaneously) from the factory.
03:48 * Ponko is gonna spoon with his gf
03:48 BatSteve You have a cold Ponko!  Make sure you're the little spoon so you don't give it to her!
03:49 Ponko she already has one :/
03:50 BatSteve Oh
03:50 Katemonster be sick together?
03:50 BatSteve Well then be whichever size spoon you want
03:50 Katemonster .g soundgarden bleed together
03:50 BotSteve Katemonster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_Ihkv_Q70
03:50 Katemonster ponko is a slotted spoon.
03:50 Katemonster or maybe a ladle.
03:50 Ponko Katemonster you like The Smashing Pumpkins
03:50 Ponko and what? lol
03:50 Katemonster a little, why?
03:51 Ponko i was forced to go to a gig yesterday
03:51 Katemonster ah
03:51 sndwrx Smashing Pumpkins gig?
03:51 Katemonster forced to in the sense that you don't like them?
03:51 sndwrx I liked them until I saw them live about 15 years ago.
03:51 sndwrx ha.
03:51 tonsofpcs sndwrx: I suppose it could be better if the plastic lenses could be cleaned... it's hard enough to get new bulbs in the damn thing though
03:51 Ponko no not all that but i don't know their songs that well
03:51 tonsofpcs (2003 Rav4 L)
03:52 sndwrx tonsofpcs: Oh are your lenses hazed up?
03:52 Ponko their support act gave me a headache omg did they suck... lol
03:52 sndwrx You can buff them out and they're just about like new.
03:52 lwq1996 my sis is scared of the vendetta mask >:D
03:52 BotSteve lwq1996: I have the following messages for you:
03:52 BotSteve At 03:28Z, BatSteve asked me to ask lwq1996 why his computer is sending me spam
03:52 Katemonster neither do i really.  tarantula and bullet with butterfly wings are good...
03:52 tonsofpcs sndwrx: the inside.
03:53 sndwrx But you need to do it the right way, with a buffing wheel and some /good/ compound... Not the $20 headlight restoration kit.
03:53 lwq1996 batsteve you still here
03:53 BatSteve yep
03:53 sndwrx Oh the inside is hazed up?
03:53 tonsofpcs oh, a microfiber cloth can probably handle the crap on it, it's just the inside.
03:53 lwq1996 idk why batsteve...
03:53 BatSteve Check your computer for a virus
03:53 dbshortwave i need to get a set of dot capsules for the 79
03:54 dbshortwave for HID
03:54 lwq1996 damnit i just did that last friday...
03:54 lwq1996 and it took two days
03:54 dbshortwave quit look at porn
03:54 lwq1996 sorry, its just so tempting
03:54 lwq1996 :(
03:54 Ponko BatSteve my bad it might of caught it from me
03:55 tonsofpcs sndwrx: yup, insides
03:55 dbshortwave lol
03:55 Katemonster http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378806_310966825599444_205344452828349_1189733_400367068_n.jpg
03:55 tonsofpcs a virus?! is it catchy????
03:55 Ponko IT'S A TRAP!!!!
03:55 sndwrx tonsofpcs: Strange.  It's typically the outside on most models.  It is possible to open composite lenses, some are easier than others.
03:56 tonsofpcs sndwrx: just getting to the module (yet alone taking it out) is a PITA
03:56 lwq1996 THE CAKE IS A LIE
03:56 tonsofpcs this is the same car where they thought it would be a good idea to place the battery so that the half that they shove under the dash is where the contacts are....
03:57 sndwrx tonsofpcs: hmmm.  I thought on the '03 RAV4 it's just two 10mm bolts holding the fixture in place.  I very well could be mistaken though, it's been a long time since I worked on one.
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03:58 tonsofpcs sndwrx: I think it is (there's a bracing bar), but I think you need to move other stuff out of the way
03:58 sndwrx could be.
03:59 tonsofpcs and knowing how they cram everything else in there, I'd expect that the "other stuff" that needs to move is 1/3 of the drive train
03:59 sndwrx ha
04:00 Ponko oh crap
04:00 sndwrx I also installed ignition interlock devices.
04:00 sndwrx aka, a breathalyzer that doesn't let you start your car.
04:00 tonsofpcs sndwrx: to prevent people from driving into bridges and power lines when telescoping masts are up?
04:01 Ponko BatSteve she's awake
04:01 * sndwrx chuckles.
04:02 BatSteve And whose fault is that?
04:02 Ponko mine
04:02 Ponko well actually it's not
04:02 Ponko i rolled over and she was awake anyway
04:03 BatSteve ah
04:03 BatSteve bummer
04:03 Ponko lol
04:03 BatSteve Tell her I said hi!
04:04 Ponko you on NSFW
04:04 Ponko lol i will
04:04 Ponko she saw that :P
04:04 tonsofpcs that's what she said
04:04 Ponko lol
04:04 BatSteve yep
04:06 BatSteve astro73|alice: is it really used by RSS.py?
04:06 BatSteve it's in there, but commented
04:06 astro73|alice I just saw it in my grep
04:08 BatSteve ah ok
04:08 tonsofpcs bookshelf reorganization, moved all the IT/electronics stuff elsewhere: http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379396_768705052035_28409740_36835604_908599862_n.jpg
04:08 Ponko ok brb
04:10 BotSteve wannabe1987: remind look at RAMsticks on the laptop (need screwdriver)
04:11 BatSteve astro73|alice: Hey!  Lookit that!
04:11 BatSteve That's awesome
04:12 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe
04:17 dbshortwave good night everybody... its time fro me to hit the sack
04:17 dbshortwave pz
04:23 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe
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04:30 * wannabe1987 hates making hard decisions
04:30 * wannabe1987 has been crying most of the last 1/2 hour too
04:30 lwq1996 what happened
04:30 wannabe1987 nothign, yet
04:32 DruidicRifleman whats up
04:33 DruidicRifleman Getting lots of practise Lwq1996
04:33 lwq1996 ?
04:38 wannabe1987 :shrug:  DruidicRifleman whats new with you?
04:39 * tonsofpcs is bored and is watching this repeatedly: http://youtu.be/S7NWv5QZfm4
04:39 BotSteve Title: Oswego vs Johnson and Wales Men's Ice Hockey Goal Collision - YouTube
04:40 DruidicRifleman For hunting season?
04:40 DruidicRifleman meh
04:40 lwq1996 OH...NOW I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN
04:40 lwq1996 i cant right now...my schedule is packed this week...so maby later
04:41 DruidicRifleman Just remember Shooting from a bench IS not practising
04:42 lwq1996 ik...
04:42 DruidicRifleman Run before you shoot Shoot off hand have your dad make fun of you
04:42 lwq1996 i dont shoot at a range
04:42 lwq1996 lol
04:42 DruidicRifleman Do every thing you can to make it hard
04:42 lwq1996 ok
04:42 DruidicRifleman keep your heart rate up
04:43 DruidicRifleman your never going to be at rest during a hunt
04:43 lwq1996 yup
04:48 wannabe1987 brb
04:48 Katemonster he's hunting deer, not fighting al queda.
04:50 DruidicRifleman thats no reason to not practise hard
04:50 wannabe1987 there.  its done
04:55 lwq1996 lol
04:55 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe
04:55 wannabe1987 thx.  cj's getting picked up....
04:56 sndwrx hey wannabe1987
04:56 lwq1996 ?
04:56 wannabe1987 ?
04:57 wannabe1987 what sndwrx?
04:58 sndwrx I was just saying 'hi'.  :)
04:58 sndwrx .w
04:58 BotSteve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing
04:58 sndwrx oops
04:58 wannabe1987 o hi
04:58 sndwrx Thanks BotSteve, not what I was trying to do though.  :P
04:58 BotSteve Happy to help, sndwrx
04:59 lwq1996 .w
04:59 BotSteve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing
04:59 sndwrx It was a mindless attempt to .w[ho], or check to see who was in the room.  Doesn't work on IRC, however.
04:59 exor674 sndwrx: /who :P
05:00 exor674 also haha, silly python
05:00 sndwrx wannabe1987: What's up?  You aren't normally on this late are you?
05:00 wannabe1987 we broke up...cj's getting picked up
05:00 sndwrx exor674: right!
05:00 sndwrx er oh you and your boyfriend?
05:01 sndwrx Sorry to hear that.  :(
05:01 wannabe1987 mhm
05:01 sndwrx Good thing you're surrounded by friends.  :)
05:01 wannabe1987 trying to figure out how to get 2 carloads of stuff from lakeview to jenison...
05:02 lwq1996 lol drive
05:02 sndwrx Is that where he's headed or are you moving?
05:02 wannabe1987 where my parents are
05:02 * sndwrx nods.
05:03 sndwrx I'd be happy to help, but I moved back from FL without wheels.  :-/
05:06 wannabe1987 its ok...i have an aunt/uncle up here, i might ask them to store some stuff and then bring it back for christmas....i'm potentially going to iowa the 25th-20th....
05:07 sndwrx Oh cool.  What's in Iowa?
05:07 wannabe1987 dying relative
05:07 wannabe1987 they need help...i'm free...
05:07 sndwrx Oh.  :-/
05:07 sndwrx Well that's good of you though.
05:07 wannabe1987 yeah...i'm a CNA (trained) so i can do it....
05:08 sndwrx That's right I forgot you were talking about that the other day.
05:08 wannabe1987 yeah
05:08 sndwrx So you'll possibly be gone for just about a month?
05:09 wannabe1987 yep
05:09 * sndwrx nods.
05:09 * wannabe1987 can't stop crying.....i think i'm broken
05:10 sndwrx It's never easy, but it does get easier with time.
05:10 sndwrx How long were you together.
05:10 wannabe1987 no, this is #6, so i know....
05:10 sndwrx ?
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05:10 wannabe1987 2-3 months?
05:10 * sndwrx nods.
05:11 wannabe1987 and i odn't even know why i'm crying.....
05:12 sndwrx Do you mind my asking the circumstances?
05:12 wannabe1987 don't have the same values....
05:12 sndwrx (bearing in mind this is a public and logged channel.  PM or another channel is good if you do feel like talking.)
05:12 lwq1996 -me sits down on the couche and hugs wannbe-
05:12 lwq1996 it'll be ok
05:12 * wannabe1987 doesn't want hugs
05:13 * lwq1996 goes and hides
05:13 wannabe1987 don't laeave
05:13 lwq1996 im hiding not leaving
05:14 sndwrx On the bright side, you should have better opportunity for work if you're in Jenison.  :)
05:14 sndwrx Plus you can get down to the labs more often!
05:15 wannabe1987 lol
05:15 wannabe1987 they don't like me there
05:15 sndwrx :o
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05:15 sndwrx I don't believe it.
05:15 wannabe1987 astro73|alice has said it too...boden pretty much hates me
05:16 sndwrx Well that's no good.
05:16 sndwrx I was curious why very few people that visit the labs get on IRC.
05:16 sndwrx Angy and yNos are the only two I can think of off-hand.
05:17 eadthem OMG   that saw is like some sort of broken toy
05:17 lwq1996 doesnt astro go to the lab
05:17 DruidicRifleman Cause most people spend most of they're time Working For tgg and yNos telicomutes to his job from the lab and does his break's working
05:17 wannabe1987 astro73|alice does sometimes, Cprossu has
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05:17 lwq1996 egrsteve
05:17 * lwq1996 sees fox...me shoots
05:17 DruidicRifleman Cprossu was hardly online when he was in GR
05:18 wannabe1987 but most the people at the lab dont' have *time* to get on here...they're working and then they go home and sleep
05:18 wannabe1987 and then get up and go to the lab
05:18 wannabe1987 and then repeat
05:18 sndwrx Oh it's a sweatshop.  ;)
05:18 wannabe1987 yes
05:18 DruidicRifleman not quite there is allot to Do
05:18 lwq1996 lol
05:18 lwq1996 a lot*
05:19 DruidicRifleman I'd love to visit but it's hard on my income
05:19 sndwrx Where are you DruidicRifleman ?
05:20 wannabe1987 canadia land
05:20 wannabe1987 o.O
05:20 * lwq1996 wants to hug someon :(
05:20 lwq1996 lol
05:20 wannabe1987 you has gf
05:21 wannabe1987 hug her
05:21 lwq1996 ummmm...shes not here
05:21 wannabe1987 :shrug:  hug misty
05:21 lwq1996 EW...THAT BITCH...NEVER
05:22 Hackfox D:
05:23 lwq1996 mistys my sister hackfox
05:23 sndwrx hi Hackfox
05:23 Hackfox why is I not a bat?
05:23 lwq1996 lol
05:23 wannabe1987 i dunno
05:23 wannabe1987 cuz you're no upside down?
05:23 wannabe1987 cuz you're not savin the world?
05:24 wannabe1987 or gotham city anyway
05:24 DruidicRifleman hehehe
05:24 DruidicRifleman in canada east of toronto
05:24 sndwrx Ah, cool.
05:24 sndwrx I have a friend in Kitchener and one in St Catharines.
05:24 * wannabe1987 can see her breath o.O
05:25 lwq1996 hehe just read something... "if you get caught sleeping in class, raise your head and say 'jesus's name, amen', "
05:26 * wannabe1987 doesnt' find that funny, but ok
05:26 * wannabe1987 can see her breath o.O
05:26 sndwrx Why is it so cold?
05:27 sndwrx Oh, you will have 'net access at your parents', right?
05:27 wannabe1987 no kerosene and no electric blanket (altho i will disobey that one...) and no heat....and no insulation
05:27 wannabe1987 yeah, dad does PR for his job, he's almost always online
05:27 wannabe1987 idk about iowa yet o.O
05:28 sndwrx wait where are you that you have no heat or means to heat?
05:28 wannabe1987 the electric blanket doesn't use much electricity....if she was worried about electricity she would have her son shut down a desktop....
05:28 wannabe1987 i'm living in a garage turned living room
05:29 sndwrx oh
05:29 Cheezmo .me prepares for some stoichiometry
05:29 Cheezmo darn elusive slash
05:29 sndwrx CJ's parents' place or something?
05:29 wannabe1987 jasons house in lakeview....jason = friend of cj
05:30 * sndwrx nods.
05:31 lwq1996 now may i hug, since your cold?
05:31 wannabe1987 yes
05:31 wannabe1987 i took the space heater and put it right in front of me
05:31 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe to warm her
05:31 * wannabe1987 hugs back
05:33 wannabe1987 i still have between 1/2 and 3/4 tank of gas :D
05:33 wannabe1987 i feel bad tho that cj had to sell his psp for the money....
05:34 lwq1996 :O
05:34 sndwrx Your decision to break up or his?
05:34 lwq1996 awe
05:34 lwq1996 did he use it much?
05:34 sndwrx It's a PSP.  She was carting him back and forth to school.  I don't see it as that great of a sacrifice.  :P
05:35 sndwrx What kind of car do you have, wannabe1987 ?
05:35 wannabe1987 my decision
05:35 wannabe1987 he used it often...
05:35 wannabe1987 a 97 ford escort.  great gas milage
05:35 wannabe1987 needs to be fixed
05:36 * sndwrx nods.
05:36 sndwrx What's wrong with it?
05:36 wannabe1987 struts
05:36 wannabe1987 and springs
05:36 wannabe1987 they're 117 each in GR....
05:36 wannabe1987 my uncle can do them....
05:36 wannabe1987 i can't afford them...
05:36 wannabe1987 tehy're on my christmas list
05:37 sndwrx Well it doesn't seem like $117 each is too bad for that job, but it is a lot of money.
05:37 wannabe1987 yeah....i don't have it
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05:38 sndwrx hey Seroster
05:39 wannabe1987 its you!  *points*
05:39 wannabe1987 hi
05:39 Seroster Hello soundworks
05:39 Seroster And you wannabe1987
05:40 sndwrx Well, I'm going outside for a few minutes.
05:40 wannabe1987 :D
05:40 BatSteve heyo!
05:40 sndwrx hey BatSteve
05:40 wannabe1987 ok...its cold out there
05:40 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve
05:41 sndwrx brb
05:41 BatSteve hey sndwrx, hey wannabe1987
05:42 wannabe1987 hows BC.  you're up late...
05:42 BatSteve That's ok, I was up early this morning
05:42 BatSteve I'm just pushing through the fatigue
05:42 wannabe1987 ...
05:43 Seroster Battie!
05:43 BatSteve (:
05:43 BatSteve Seroster!
05:43 Seroster How do you think the nsfw move worked out?
05:43 BatSteve I'm ok with it!
05:43 BatSteve brb
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05:43 BatSteve there we go
05:44 Seroster Lol
05:45 * wannabe1987 doesn't like NSFW :P
05:45 Seroster Its allright virgo
05:46 wannabe1987 .w harry potter #2
05:46 BotSteve "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets is the second novel in the Harry Potter series written by J. K. Rowling." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Chamber_of_Secrets
05:46 wannabe1987 .w harry potter #4
05:46 BotSteve "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire is the fourth novel in the Harry Potter series written by J. K. Rowling, published on 8 July 2000." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Goblet_of_Fire
05:47 Cprossu god damn I am bored
05:47 * Cheezmo forgot stoichiometry and is just going by complicated algebra
05:47 Cheezmo erk
05:47 Sgt_Lemming yNos you around?
05:51 Cheezmo right... I remember now that algebra does shit all for stoich :(
05:53 wannabe1987 stoichometry?
05:55 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell yNos I'd like some assistance with FreeBSD if he's up for it
05:55 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
05:55 Seroster Godwins law! "I'm going to buy toilet paper"    "HITLER used toilet paper!"
05:55 Cheezmo wannabe1987: it's the mathematical methods used to balance chemical equations
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05:57 lwq1996 http://www.photoblip.com/pictures/7309/upgrade-kit-for-iphone-4-owners.html
05:57 BotSteve Title: Upgrade Kit For Iphone 4 Owners
05:57 Cheezmo for instance 48(KNO3) + 5(C12H22O11) -> 60(CO2) + 55(H2O) + 24(N2) + 24(K2O)
05:57 sndwrx phew.  It is stinkin' cold out there.
05:57 Cheezmo except now I'm substituting C5H12O5 for C12H22O11
05:57 Ponko ok i'm back
05:58 * Cheezmo has an aneurysm
05:58 Cheezmo OH F***
05:58 Cheezmo my fiancee gets off work in 2 minutes O>O
05:58 * Cheezmo runs like hell
05:58 Cprossu lol.
05:59 Cprossu I've got one better than that lwq1996
05:59 Cprossu http://star.pst.qub.ac.uk/~dbj/Funnies/VW_rebuildkit.jpg
06:01 Seroster lwq1996, You want to know how to upgrade your apple product?
06:01 Seroster 1, get a BIG fucking hammer
06:01 Seroster 2, Get your wallet.
06:02 Seroster 3, Smash the old
06:02 Seroster 4, Buy the new
06:02 Seroster That's the apple way
06:02 Cprossu you messed that up
06:03 Cprossu 1. Drop Phone onto Pavement Accidentally
06:03 Ponko yes he did didn't he
06:03 Cprossu 2. Get your Wallet.
06:03 Seroster 1, Use phone.
06:03 Cprossu 3. Rebuy old phone right before new model comes out
06:03 Seroster 2, get wallet.
06:03 Cprossu 4. Curse
06:03 Cprossu 5. Get wallet
06:03 Seroster I hate apple.
06:03 Cprossu 6. Buy the new
06:03 Ponko Cprossu my sister did that
06:03 Seroster Especially when I found out how much they give to charity annualy
06:03 Cprossu I know about 3 people locally
06:03 Cprossu who have done that.
06:04 Seroster Evryone does
06:04 Ponko yeah because they'll be tax exempt
06:04 Cprossu I mean rebuy the old phone 1 week before the new one releases
06:04 Ponko my sis bought the iPhone 3 GS then the iPhone 4 s comes out
06:05 Monkeh Shame phones are so fragile these days
06:05 Seroster They aint
06:05 wannabe1987 yeah
06:05 Monkeh You can break an iPhone or most other smartphones by dropping them once
06:05 Seroster But apple phones are
06:05 Cprossu my phone has been a freaking tank.
06:05 Cprossu it's not a smartphone though.
06:05 Seroster I had a Nokia 3310 for a looong time
06:05 * wannabe1987 is warming up her bed....
06:05 Cprossu but it's been a freaking tank.
06:05 Ponko lol my old sony went in the WASHIN MACHINE
06:05 wannabe1987 with a heated blanket (shhhh don't tell)
06:05 Monkeh My old phone? It's been thrown around, dropped onto concrete, stepped on, gone through a washing machine, got so full of dust, sand, and the like I've had to clean it outside because of the mess..
06:05 Seroster Yes, Ponko. That was the way of the good ol days
06:06 Cprossu (Samsung SCH-U750
06:06 Ponko yep lol
06:06 Cprossu and I bounce mine off of concrete
06:06 Cprossu all the time
06:06 Ponko Sony Ericsson T303
06:06 lwq1996 ok...im going to bed
06:06 lwq1996 later
06:06 Cprossu to show it to people
06:06 wannabe1987 night lee!
06:06 * wannabe1987 HUGSyou
06:06 Monkeh http://www.swotti.com/tmp/swotti/cacheBM9RAWEGNJE1MQ==VGVJAG5VBG9NES1NB2JPBGUGUGHVBMVZ/imgNokia%2061513.jpg
06:06 sndwrx When I sold phones years ago, I used to slam Nokias on the floor to convert Nextel subscribers.  :P
06:06 Cprossu one of these days one of the screens will crack
06:06 * lwq1996 hugs back
06:06 Monkeh Indestructable.
06:06 Seroster I threw my 3310 from the 8th story, it split but with the battery put back in it worked fine,.
06:06 Seroster Made a nice dent in the grass where it landed xD
06:06 Ponko then when the screen inverted it red nosscirE ynoS
06:07 wannabe1987 ...
06:07 Cprossu 11/12 times my back doesn't even pop off
06:07 sndwrx "Oh I don't like Nextel, but I need the rugged phone."  *SMASH* me: "How's that for rugged?  Here, make a call" :>
06:07 wannabe1987 lol
06:07 Seroster lol sndwrx
06:07 Cprossu my LG Vx7000 was a trooper too
06:08 Cprossu if I plug it in it will still work
06:08 astro73|mal god, this house gets cold at night
06:08 Seroster Keep battery at 80% and itll be fine
06:08 * wannabe1987 finds astro and hugs him
06:09 Cprossu only thing I didn't like about the vx7000 was the lack of a qwerty keyboard
06:09 Cprossu something my samsung has
06:09 Cprossu only thing I don't like about most smart phones is pocket dialing, which the samsung can't do because it's a flip phone
06:10 Ponko my laptop when unplugged either turns off after about 50 secs sometimes it lasts for hours
06:10 Seroster Flip phones <333
06:10 Ponko Motorola Rzar Seroster XD
06:10 sndwrx haha razr
06:10 Cprossu http://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/samsung/samsung-alias-2/samsung-alias-2-combo.jpg
06:10 Cprossu epaper buttons <3
06:10 Cprossu though I totally got rid of the shit-tastic wallpaper weirdness
06:10 sndwrx Depends on who you talk to.  The razr was either love or hate.
06:10 Cprossu that the phone came with
06:11 sndwrx What phone Cprossu ?
06:11 Cprossu samsung sch-u750
06:11 Cprossu dual hindge.
06:11 Cprossu I got my parents razr's back in the day
06:11 Cprossu v3m's
06:12 sndwrx Ah the dual--yeah.  :P
06:12 Cprossu for what it's worth THEY were indestructable
06:12 Cprossu and their batteries didn't splode the same way my LG's did
06:13 sndwrx Explode or bulge?
06:13 sndwrx I've seen plenty of bloated razr batteries.
06:13 Cprossu buldge followed by melting
06:14 Cprossu I had a motorola V180, now that phone was a complete piece of shit.
06:14 sndwrx ha
06:15 Cprossu no reception anywhere, shit battery life, slow UI, the only redeeming thing on it was the standard mini-usb port
06:15 Cprossu which wouldn't charge the phone unless the driver was installed on a laptop
06:15 sndwrx That's strange.
06:17 Cprossu I did enjoy it for one reason though
06:17 Cprossu it could load midi ringtones
06:17 sndwrx haha.
06:17 Cprossu that I pushed onto it from my computer
06:17 * Cprossu totally made a kickass 'imperial death march' for it
06:18 Cprossu my vx7000 was awesome for one reason too
06:18 Cprossu I could point it's web browser to my own proxy server at home
06:19 * astro73|alice is loading up a lot of pi calculations to try to get his computer to warm up
06:19 Cprossu and I only got charged regular cell phone minutes to browse the web
06:19 Cprossu if you really want to see it warm up get folding@home astro73|alice
06:20 Cprossu or if you have a high performance graphics card and are running 'doze, the GPU version of F@H or perhaps furmark.
06:20 astro73|alice I just got 6 instances of `pi 999999999999999999999999999`
06:20 wannabe1987 lol
06:21 Cprossu I guarantee that f@h pushes cpu's harder than nearly any synthetic benchmark.
06:21 * wannabe1987 is starting to fall asleep sitting in front of the space heater o.O
06:22 BatSteve astro73|alice: that's why I run crysis benchmarks
06:23 sndwrx I have a pretty good size directory full of MIDIs
06:23 sndwrx nice, connection dropped for a few minutes.
06:23 Cprossu if you say that's nice =/
06:24 Cprossu .yt roger miller dang me
06:24 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3-EwMJDQek
06:24 sndwrx night night, wannabe1987.
06:26 Seroster Yay
06:26 wannabe1987 tiem for headache pills and sleep :D
06:26 wannabe1987 till like...noon or something
06:27 Cprossu .yt roger miller you can't rollerskate in a buffalo herd
06:27 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skFWsc_-i14
06:27 Seroster CRAP
06:27 Seroster I failed a bit
06:28 Cprossu Seroster: you can't drive around with a tiger in your car!
06:28 astro73|alice oh god. 6 instances of pi start taking up some serious memory
06:28 Seroster Argh
06:28 BotSteve sero test
06:28 Seroster FARK
06:28 Seroster Nevermind
06:29 Cprossu LOL
06:29 Cprossu Argh
06:30 astro73|alice yeah, my computer lagged pretty badly there for a few minutes
06:30 wannabe-zz night!
06:31 Cprossu on a roger miller kick tonight
06:31 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lw33d7K12E&amp;feature=related
06:31 BotSteve Title: Roger Miller - do-wacka-do (HQ) - YouTube
06:32 Cprossu .yt chug a lug roger miller
06:32 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsNWlM3fWmI
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06:34 Seroster Tried to set notices for sero
06:34 Seroster Then it reacted to ALL new messages
06:35 Seroster SO I changed in settings and it reacted to nothing
06:35 Cprossu fail.
06:41 Seroster Made a nice shiny pretty mushroom shaped thing out of 5mm aluminium for the drill press in the school shop
06:41 douglas good night everyponey
06:41 Seroster Teach had a look at it and said something like "Crap, erm, we need this thicker... And the thinnest stock we got is 20mm
06:41 Seroster That will take some serious filing work
06:44 Monkeh Seroster: Mushroom.. thing?
06:45 Seroster Its a washer that goes on the same shaft as the plastic safety screen
06:45 Monkeh Ah.
06:45 Monkeh The plastic screens which just end up getting in the way
06:45 Seroster When you move the plastic screen the mushroom thing actuates a switch with a roller on
06:46 Seroster Monkeh, Its a school enviroment, and most people there are complete retards
06:46 Seroster We would already have had two deaths if it wasnt for gfi.
06:46 Monkeh There is that.
06:49 Seroster Bye folks
06:53 astro73|alice ok, got F@H running at twice as many threads as it should, plus a system grep and two cats working the harddrives. How do i stress my GPU?
06:54 BatSteve astro73|alice: crysis
06:55 astro73|alice on linux?
06:55 BatSteve emulation adds extra stress
06:55 BatSteve (:
06:56 Cheezmo anybody here retain any stoichiometry knowledge
06:56 Cheezmo ?
07:14 Cheezmo well I'll be damned, there's an online program for balancing equations
07:14 Av_Nekoroms :) pizza is vegetable now :)
07:15 Cprossu astro73|alice: what OS?
07:15 BatSteve -sleep tiem
07:15 Cprossu play some nexuiz xD
07:15 Cprossu anyway night
07:17 Av_Nekoroms i cannot compute how tomatos in a pizza are vegetables :)
07:18 Av_Nekoroms americans are weird :)
07:22 astro73|alice well, i believe the tomato is widely considered a vegetable. IDK what they put in sauce, though
07:24 Av_Nekoroms yeh :)
07:25 Av_Nekoroms they did say when the pizza has tomato sauce in it the whole pizza counts as vegetables
07:29 astro73|alice ummm.... now
07:29 astro73|alice *no
07:29 astro73|alice there might be a few servings of vegies in it
07:29 astro73|alice but the pizza as a whole?
07:29 astro73|alice almost all american pizza falls into one category: fats
07:31 Av_Nekoroms offcourse
07:33 Av_Nekoroms http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2062056/Pizza-vegetable-Congress-set-slices-school-lunch-menus.html
07:33 BotSteve Title: Pizza is a vegetable! Congress set to keep slices on school lunch menus | Mail Online
07:33 Av_Nekoroms Pizza is set to be classified as a vegetable for the purposes of school lunches - because it contains tomato paste.
07:43 astro73|alice that sounds typical
07:46 Sgt_Lemming yeah
07:46 Sgt_Lemming read that one last night and was having quite the giggle at it
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09:48 Ponko_ oi oi
09:49 Ponko_ who's still online from 3 hours ago
09:50 Ponko_ nodboy
09:50 Ponko_ nobody*
09:51 Sgt_Lemming lol photonicinduction has an acer computer :-P
09:52 Ponko lol
09:52 Ponko forgot i was still on here
09:53 Sgt_Lemming well done
09:53 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: That's not an Acer
09:53 Sgt_Lemming Poink!
09:53 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: That's an E-Machine.
09:54 Sgt_Lemming "eMachines is a brand of entry level PCs, based in Irvine, California. eMachines employed about 135 employees and sold between 1 to 2 million computers each year before its purchase on January 30, 2004, by rival Gateway Computers. Gateway was purchased by Acer in October 2007, and eMachines is still used as a name brand for low-cost PCs.
09:54 Ponko Sgt_Lemming i'm at the sky diving drop zone
09:54 Ponko JOY
09:54 Sgt_Lemming fun fun
09:54 Sgt_Lemming eMachines is an Acer brand Monkeh
09:54 Sgt_Lemming hence, it's an acer
09:56 Ponko lol
09:57 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I didn't know that.
09:57 Ponko ok now i'm actually gonna leave now cya in about 3 hours
09:57 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: All I know is they're cheap shite.
09:57 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: As are Gateway..
10:07 Sgt_Lemming eMachines started independently, then was taken ove by Gateway who were then subsequently taken over by Acer
10:11 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Right. And thus concludes a lesson in 'shitty PC makers buying each other'.
10:11 Sgt_Lemming indeed
10:11 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I shall proceed to forget this data immediately.
10:11 Sgt_Lemming unfortunately shitty pc makers occasionally buy decent pc makers
10:12 Sgt_Lemming i.e. compaq buying digital
10:12 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: No such thing as far as desktops are concerned.
10:12 Monkeh At least, not large ones
10:12 Sgt_Lemming or lenovo buying IBM
10:12 Sgt_Lemming well, the IBM "Think" brand anyway
10:13 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I have a Lenovo Thinkpad. It is a fine item.
10:13 Monkeh Although the build quality isn't perfect, it is however extremely durable and has sane hardware.
10:13 Sgt_Lemming some of the stuff they have released since then is good, some decidely is not...
10:14 Monkeh (by build quality, I refer to fit and finish. Squeaky wristwrest, edges on LCD trim which can be caught, etc)
10:14 Sgt_Lemming yeah
10:14 Sgt_Lemming there service isn't so great either
10:14 Monkeh I still prefer it to the plastic fantastic majority of laptops.
10:15 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/Lenovo <---- damage to my Thinkpad x61t (which I paid $3800 for) after it was RETURNED from a service
10:15 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming Dixon - Lenovo
10:15 Sgt_Lemming none of that damage was there before I sent it in btw
10:16 Monkeh "Oops, I dropped it. Oh well, he'll never notice."
10:16 Sgt_Lemming the screen looked like they had just levered it open with a screwdriver... before undoing the screws...
10:17 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: This looks familiar: https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/ComputerStuff#5333036724802760578
10:17 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming Dixon - Computer Stuff
10:17 Sgt_Lemming mmm?
10:18 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Except I went to the effort of buying suitable SATA cables and making power cables for mine.
10:18 Sgt_Lemming that was just an early version of it
10:19 Monkeh I'll pull mine some time
10:19 Monkeh Custom power cables FTW
10:19 Sgt_Lemming I ended up modifying one of the power cables from the PSU to suit
10:19 Monkeh http://www.coolgear.com/images/CD011360A.jpg
10:20 Sgt_Lemming yeah
10:20 Sgt_Lemming the psu I had in that machine used those
10:20 Sgt_Lemming Corsair HX650
10:21 Monkeh Connectors of winnery.
10:21 Sgt_Lemming indeed
10:21 Monkeh Right, to the water raining contraption
10:22 Sgt_Lemming vertical bath
10:27 Electricguy hahaha! what an awesome idea! :D http://officeofstrategicinfluence.com/bulkmailer/
10:27 BotSteve Title: Mail a brick to junk mailers using paid postage - Creative tips with dealing with spammers and bulk mailers
11:06 killakee note to self: being a geek and having a livingroom as a workshop realy sucks on cleaningday :(
11:08 Sgt_Lemming yup
11:08 Sgt_Lemming this is why you have a hackerspace
11:08 Sgt_Lemming just a word of advice, don't be president if you hate cleaning up other peoples messes :-P
11:10 killakee hehe... my house looks like a hackerspace right now..
11:23 Sgt_Lemming killakee, seen the live cam for our space?
11:37 killakee tgg?
11:37 Sgt_Lemming no
11:38 Sgt_Lemming space.hsbne.org
11:38 killakee then no i havent
11:38 Sgt_Lemming click the camera link
11:38 killakee done
11:39 killakee Redirecting you to http://space.hsbne.org/ and nothing happeens
11:39 Sgt_Lemming hmmm....
11:40 Sgt_Lemming http://space.hsbne.org:52169/sample/lvafull.html
11:40 BotSteve Title: LiveApplet (Medium)
11:40 Sgt_Lemming that work?
11:40 killakee haha my 5 year daughter wants a teddybear for cristmas... and a soldering iron :D
11:41 killakee now thats a hackerspace
11:41 killakee :)
11:41 killakee where is that =?
11:42 Sgt_Lemming Brisbane, Australia
11:44 Electricguy a geek that uses the living room as lab? you need a proper lab at home ffs! :P
11:46 * Experimentonomen has his lab in his living room, and its currently undergoing a major makeover
11:53 killakee electric i know but we are curently waiting for buildingpermit for building a new garage and hackerspace or as others call it workshop :P
11:54 Electricguy hehehe okey :P
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11:54 killakee australia that figures.. the other side of earth :P
11:55 killakee there are absolutly NO hackerspaces in norway .. if there is i havent found one... lame ass contry :/
11:55 Electricguy there are 9 hackerspaces here in Sweden. But none of them anywhere near me! -,-
11:57 killakee sweden rules norway when it comes to tinkering with stuff..
11:57 Electricguy lol :P
11:58 Electricguy yeah maybe, hehe
11:58 killakee electricguy: what do you use as nst for teslacoils ?
11:58 killakee can you get them in sweden?
11:58 Electricguy it depends
11:58 Electricguy sure i can get proper NSTs
11:58 Electricguy but MOTs are easier to get
11:59 killakee hehe yes but i dont want to use mots :P
11:59 Electricguy you wuss! ;)
11:59 Electricguy nah but, oil burner ignition trafos work too
11:59 Electricguy or even better
11:59 killakee i paid 1000 kr for my 6kv 85ma nst
11:59 Electricguy PLOE PIGS! :D
12:00 killakee pole pigs ?
12:00 Electricguy POLE*
12:00 killakee hehe
12:00 killakee NO WAY
12:00 Electricguy XD
12:00 Electricguy 100+KVA
12:00 killakee i do stuff in a smal way until i lurn from it ...
12:00 Electricguy hahaha ok XD
12:00 killakee AND i dont have all that mutch cash ;)
12:00 Electricguy a current limited MOT can do it too.
12:01 killakee but i gues i could ask my father , as he is a high voltage enginer :P
12:01 Electricguy or 2-3 current limited MOTs in series. just as dangerous as a NST but cheaper to get
12:01 Electricguy LOL! yeah do that :P
12:01 Electricguy probably better :P
12:01 Sgt_Lemming err, MOT's are more dangerous
12:02 killakee yes but i havent got a clew on how to current limmit and stuff :/
12:02 Electricguy hmm, how old are you btw? :D
12:02 Electricguy i'm 19
12:02 Sgt_Lemming you are talking 200 - 300mA for MOT's
12:02 killakee thanx lemming ;)
12:02 Electricguy Sgt_Lemming, not if you current limit them a lot
12:02 Sgt_Lemming vs 60mA for NST
12:02 killakee 83 on mine ;)
12:02 Electricguy of course a MOT connected straigt from the mains is dangerous as hell
12:02 Electricguy that's why you want to current limit them....
12:03 killakee electric: got a site showing how to currentlimmit ?
12:03 Electricguy i got a BIG MOT from a really old microwave. it gives about 2KV and 1A
12:03 Sgt_Lemming Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McNYeDjPCAo <--- 10KV MOT array, non limited :-P
12:04 killakee 1a will kill you dead .. you know that ?
12:04 BotSteve Title: Drawing 10KV arc's off a set of Microwave Oven Transformers - YouTube
12:04 Electricguy a beafy lightbulb or a proper ballast from a mercury vapour lamp in series with the MOT
12:04 Electricguy killakee, ehh yeah... i'm not a total noob... XD
12:04 killakee hehe
12:04 Electricguy Sgt_Lemming, nice
12:05 Sgt_Lemming that was an amusing day
12:05 Sgt_Lemming with some rather evil buzzing
12:05 killakee well i have heard that you can couple 2 in some way and one curretlimits the other ?
12:05 Electricguy but this one kicks your ass! ;P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfixjqWcOwg
12:05 BotSteve Title: INSANE high voltage supply / ŠÍLENÝ zdroj VN - YouTube
12:05 Electricguy 3 pahse! XD
12:05 killakee that is sick
12:05 Electricguy it IS insane :P
12:05 killakee scare
12:05 killakee yeah
12:06 Electricguy it draws cca 30A from each phase :) over 20kVa
12:06 killakee well i have heard that you can couple 2 in some way and one curretlimits the other ? how do you do that?
12:06 Sgt_Lemming nice, that's three phase as well
12:07 Electricguy Sgt_Lemming, yes i said it was 3 pahse! ;P
12:07 Electricguy killakee, connect a MOT in series with the other to make it act as a inductor
12:07 Sgt_Lemming killakee, you short circuit one side of the transformer, and then run the power through the other side
12:08 killakee aha i c
12:09 killakee high voltage is adictive like crack
12:09 killakee :D
12:09 Electricguy hahaha yeah :P
12:09 Electricguy plasma speakers are fun to play around with
12:10 Electricguy here is the best plasma speaker prototype i've made http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlyOv6_7ON8
12:10 BotSteve Title: Improved plasma speaker! - YouTube
12:10 Electricguy sounded pretty good and was fairly loud
12:12 Electricguy also worked VERY good as a spark transmitter for around 900kHz! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjARCr6HdsY
12:12 BotSteve Title: Plasma speaker spark radio transmitter! - YouTube
12:14 killakee flyback?
12:14 Electricguy yeah
12:15 Electricguy a slightly older video of a flyback PSU i made http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH4bQj-kphs
12:15 BotSteve Title: finished high voltage powersupply driver - YouTube
12:15 Electricguy gave a lot of juice out to be a NE555 based supply
12:16 Electricguy not THAT much voltage, but a fair amount of current
12:16 Electricguy and if you mix high voltage arcs with a magnet you get a spinning adrc :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAE6kslNHtY
12:16 BotSteve Title: spinning cone shaped high voltage arc - YouTube
12:17 killakee hihi... i am building a werry similar thing for a hv suply
12:17 Electricguy hehehe oki :P
12:17 killakee just the buttons are diferent
12:17 Electricguy lol ok :P
12:18 Electricguy this is the only thing i have built that i was actually scared of.. XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot0H10vRfi8
12:18 BotSteve Title: burning some electronics with high voltage - YouTube
12:19 Electricguy skip to 5:40
12:19 * dbshortwave yawns
12:19 Electricguy best thing is at the end XD
12:22 Experimentonomen g'day dbshortwave
12:24 killakee electric:is that a non limmited mot ?
12:25 Electricguy yepp
12:25 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, r u a ham ?
12:25 killakee hehe what not to do when driving a teslacoil ? XD
12:25 Electricguy it depends on if you want a powerful TC or not :P
12:26 killakee wouldnt that just fry everything to bits ?
12:26 Electricguy not if you build it properly
12:27 killakee isnt 2 kv to little to get good long streamers ?
12:27 Electricguy this coil handles 55000Watts with ease :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY-AS13fl30
12:27 BotSteve Title: BIGGG TESLA COIL OF OKLAHOMA - YouTube
12:27 Electricguy that depends on how many primary and secondary turns you have
12:28 killakee MOTHER OF GOD thats BIG :D
12:28 Electricguy yeah :P
12:28 killakee i want one :D
12:28 Electricguy hahaha XD
12:28 killakee that would scare jehovas vitnes away :D
12:29 Electricguy LOL! XD
12:29 Electricguy this tesla coil runs on only 24V http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyam4Xz95O4
12:29 BotSteve Title: 24V Mini Tesla Coil video - YouTube
12:30 killakee what only 24 volts ? he must have something to step it up / puls the enegry?
12:31 Electricguy no need to if you have very few primary turns and a lot of secondary turns
12:31 Electricguy keep in mind that a TC is a transformer
12:31 killakee hmmm
12:31 killakee yeah
12:31 killakee hmm that vould be cool to build ...
12:32 Electricguy for example, a regular car ignition coil gives around 20kV from only 12-13V
12:32 killakee or maybe not i hate coilwinding ;)
12:32 killakee yea im building a coil right now with 2 in series ;)
12:32 Electricguy yeah i hate coil windiwng too XD
12:33 killakee but its part of it i guess :P
12:33 Electricguy i'm planning to make a spool holder and put in our big lathe and let the lathe wind a perfect tesla coil secondary.
12:33 Electricguy :)
12:34 Electricguy i just have to figure out the right speed so it doesn't end up like shit
12:34 killakee sounds lovely... im just winding buy hand ... not good when you forget the count :S "#%¤%"!!!
12:34 Electricguy hahaha XD
12:34 killakee i did 4 times yesturday
12:34 Electricguy lol
12:34 Electricguy just wind like a maniac and figure out the resonance later on... XD
12:35 killakee but i got to go get the kids... talk to yall later...
12:35 killakee yeah i did in the end ;)
12:35 Electricguy lol :P
12:35 Electricguy ok, c u later
12:36 Electricguy gonna make some noms. bbiab
12:38 sndwrx mornin' all
12:39 angy afternoon
12:39 sndwrx hey angy.  how's it going?
12:39 angy fine :)
12:39 angy and you?
12:39 sndwrx not too bad.  headache this morning for some reason.
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13:44 SuperPhosphate Hello
13:44 SuperPhosphate Hello
13:44 SuperPhosphate any life forms?
13:44 angy maybe a bacteria somewhere
13:45 SuperPhosphate ah yes
13:45 SuperPhosphate My daughter had a joke
13:45 SuperPhosphate Bacteria don't have a god
13:45 SuperPhosphate But god has bacteria
13:46 SuperPhosphate anyway how are you angy?
13:48 angy fine, I'm negotiating my PhD
13:48 angy and you?
13:49 SuperPhosphate Im good thatnks
13:49 SuperPhosphate Oh, what are you doing for you PHd?
13:50 angy most likely in the industrial field, life cycle I think
13:50 angy it's still to negociate
13:50 SuperPhosphate science related?
13:50 angy yes
13:51 SuperPhosphate cool
13:51 SuperPhosphate I worked in heaps of factories as a lab assistant
13:51 SuperPhosphate It was terrificx
13:53 angy =) so I'm not going back to work in the US just yet, at least not in the next three years
13:53 SuperPhosphate cool
13:54 SuperPhosphate ah so you have worked
13:54 SuperPhosphate in what field?
13:54 angy I worked in aeronautics and food industry, but not for a long time
13:54 SuperPhosphate they both sound interesting
13:54 yNos wtf.
13:54 BotSteve yNos: I have the following messages for you:
13:54 BotSteve At 05:55Z, Sgt_Lemming asked me to tell yNos I'd like some assistance with FreeBSD if he's up for it
13:54 yNos this guy is cracked
13:55 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkxjnnBL7V8
13:55 BotSteve Title: Held Back for 3000 Years, Now Revealed - YouTube
13:55 angy food industry is frightening
13:55 SuperPhosphate I havent worked for ages
13:55 SuperPhosphate yes I've worked in drinks and food factories
13:56 SuperPhosphate Beer, soft drinks and bread factories
13:57 * yNos makes his own beer and soda
13:58 angy I was more in huge factories for huge combustion products
13:58 yNos so what you are saying is... you got to burn stuff and get paid for it.
13:58 angy not combustion! comsuption!
13:59 yNos Well, that isnt as much fun
13:59 angy I did weird things in aeronautics though
13:59 SuperPhosphate like what?
13:59 yNos mile high club kinda "wierd things"?
14:00 angy spending millions to create useless prototypes
14:00 SuperPhosphate ok
14:00 SuperPhosphate That must have been really frustrating'
14:01 angy more like immensely funny
14:04 SuperPhosphate ok, sounds like a cool job
14:04 SuperPhosphate Could you sort of make anything
14:04 angy if it need carbon fiber and insanely costly machinery, yeah
14:05 SuperPhosphate lol
14:05 SuperPhosphate I would like to have a job like that
14:05 SuperPhosphate Im sure i can spend lots of money buying expensive machinery
14:06 SuperPhosphate Probably in the form of a 3d lazer cutter
14:06 angy that kind of machinery is in billions
14:06 SuperPhosphate hrmm
14:06 SuperPhosphate well my budget is more modest
14:07 angy carbon curing autoclaves are costly
14:07 angy and needs quite a plant to work as well
14:08 SuperPhosphate ok
14:08 SuperPhosphate I havent ever worked with carbon fiber :(
14:09 angy not very good for health if you do prototypes
14:09 SuperPhosphate ah. Is that fibreglass?
14:10 angy same process, worse on health depending on what you do
14:10 SuperPhosphate ah, ok
14:26 Seroster Hello there angy  and SuperPhosphate
14:26 SuperPhosphate Hi
14:27 Seroster Hows life?
14:28 SuperPhosphate good!
14:28 SuperPhosphate Its weekend
14:28 angy it's always weekend for me =) still for a few
14:29 Seroster Yeah, the hobo always has the day off
14:30 Seroster I got a fun day tomorrow
14:30 angy killing a classmate?
14:31 SuperPhosphate seroster, doing what?
14:31 Seroster Parents kithcen fan
14:32 Seroster 40 years of grease
14:32 SuperPhosphate oh that sounds really thrilling
14:37 SuperPhosphate Didnt they ever get around to cleaning the fan, or was that too boring?
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14:44 angy Hello injektion
14:44 injektion hi
14:47 wannabe1987 angy where you gonna phd at?
14:47 angy france
14:48 wannabe1987 awwww :P
14:48 injektion I'm listening to dark music again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5O7qXsTtCbo
14:48 BotSteve Title: Team Ghost - High hopes - YouTube
14:49 angy what of do you have high hopes?
14:49 wannabe1987 why r u listening to dark music?
14:49 angy =)
14:49 wannabe1987 huh?
14:49 * injektion sits quietly in the corner painting his nails black
14:50 * angy dissolves injektion nail polish
14:50 * wannabe1987 watches
14:50 injektion lol
14:51 Seroster FUCK YEAH
14:52 Seroster Two thousand six hundred euros TAX FREE 30th of november =D
14:52 * injektion feeds Seroster to sharks with lasers on their heads
14:53 wannabe1987 o.o
14:54 * angy tries to tax Seroster's tax free
14:54 wannabe1987 o.O
14:56 injektion I need to ummmm
14:57 wannabe1987 you ok?
14:58 injektion I am fine
14:58 injektion 5+4 is 205
14:58 wannabe1987 depends :p
14:59 injektion In base 10
14:59 wannabe1987 yep...depends on base
14:59 wannabe1987 i don't understand base, but i know what it is
15:03 NeWtoz it's just like bass, but with an E instead
15:05 wannabe1987 thanks
15:05 injektion lol
15:09 injektion When did Morgan Freeman start narrating visa commericals
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15:11 wannabe1987 today: day of packing....w00t?
15:11 wannabe1987 at least theres wifi
15:11 wannabe1987 and i'm not tethered to a wire
15:16 * angy pass a cup of tea to injektion
15:18 injektion thanks :_
15:18 injektion :)
15:18 angy don't use too much sugar
15:19 yNos rot13:Ubj znal crbcyr xabj jung ebg13 vf?
15:21 wannabe1987 yNos:  too much to drink?  or stuck in dvorak?
15:22 yNos rot13:Abg fghpx va qibenx, whfg cynlvat jvgu ebg13. yby vs lbh ner shyy bs fuvg.
15:23 injektion wannabe1987, He's talking in ROT-13 which is a type of encryption
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15:23 wannabe1987 hm  ok
15:24 wannabe1987 i figured out it wasn't dvorak when trying to type it out in dvorak looking at my keys :P
15:24 injektion Vg jbexf fbzrguvat yvxr guvf
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15:25 yNos Yrgf frr vs fur pna svther vg bhg.
15:26 injektion Qb jung lbh jnag V unir ab cneg va guvf
15:27 yNos ynfg gvzr v qvq guvf, abobql ercyvrq.. v rira purngrq jvgu gur ebg13 urnqre ba rnpu bs zl zrffntrf..
15:29 injektion Lbh tbg n ercyl abj yby naljnl V'yy or onpx yngre be fbzrguvat
15:29 yNos nyevgr, unir sha
15:29 NeWtoz eirdosway
15:32 yNos rveqbfjnl?
15:33 angy plpyvp rapbqvat vf sha
15:34 yNos gur snpg gung vg vf frys qrpbqvat, sbejneq naq onpxjneq vs qbhoyrl sha
15:35 yNos fpevcgf.veffv.bet/fpevcgf/ebg13.cy
15:35 angy qrsvavgvba bs plpyvp, gung bar vf bayl va gjb gheaf gubhtu
15:36 yNos :Q
15:43 sndwrx hm.
15:44 sndwrx kuidas sina elad?
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15:49 Cprossu <day cb yd. xnrref d.nn co ircbi rb d.p.Z
15:51 yNos hrm
15:51 yNos not sure which ambiguation/encryption that is.
15:51 yNos sndwrx ^
15:51 yNos Cprossu ^
15:51 Cprossu fair enough.
15:52 Cprossu I was just reading the text above it.
15:52 Cprossu and made a joke of it
15:52 yNos ahh
15:53 Cprossu (hence it's ascii as it would be typed on dvorak)
15:53 Cprossu *qwerty
15:53 Cprossu man I am tired
15:53 yNos sndwrx: i dont know estonian.
15:53 Cprossu (hence it's qwerty as it would be typed on dvorak)
15:53 yNos ahh
15:54 yNos Aga google tundub hästi hakkama sellega.
15:55 sndwrx Ahaa, rohutirts on kiire üks.  :D
15:55 * sndwrx snickers.
15:56 yNos in a hurry door?
15:56 sndwrx haha is that what you got?
15:56 yNos http://translate.google.com/#auto|en|Ahaa%2C%20rohutirts%20on%20kiire%20uks%0A
15:56 BotSteve Title: Google Translate
15:56 sndwrx funny.
15:57 sndwrx I basically said you're quick, grasshoppa.  :P
15:57 Cprossu V guvax V nz tbvat gb tb trg fbzr sbbq. Nal fhttrfgvbaf?
15:58 sndwrx I need suggestions, too.
15:59 yNos cvmmn, ohetref, orre, gnpbf, zbagrmhzn'f eriratr, rgp
15:59 yNos dunno
15:59 Cprossu Jryy, 'sbbq' vf n tbbq fgnegvat cynpr V fhccbfr. Ubj qvq gung ebbfgre gnfgr lAbf?
15:59 yNos was damn tasty
15:59 Cprossu glad to hear.
15:59 yNos he is septic tank fodder atm though.. we ate him all up
15:59 sndwrx Beer sounds good to me.
16:00 sndwrx I've been craving a good hefe for days.
16:01 Monkeh aarrrrrgh.
16:01 * Monkeh can only feel half his mouth and half of it hurts
16:01 sndwrx hi Monkeh
16:02 Cprossu recent dental sugery, or are you in need of it?
16:02 SparkyProjects http://vimeo.com/6465902
16:02 BotSteve Title: BCB - Wall Breaker (AreYouReady 4v / DSEi) on Vimeo
16:02 Monkeh Cprossu: Just got back from having three pulled.
16:02 Cprossu ow.
16:02 SparkyProjects This is a Welsh company selling to the military
16:02 Monkeh Cprossu: My tongue tingles and my jaw aches from the amount of pulling required. :{
16:03 Monkeh Plus the pervasive taste of blood.
16:04 sndwrx SparkyProjects: NEat little cannon, but what would it do to a real wall from more than two feet away?
16:04 Monkeh sndwrx: What's not real about that wall?
16:05 sndwrx Says typical range is up to 300 meters.
16:05 sndwrx Monkeh: It's a thin wall with no real reinforcement.
16:05 Monkeh sndwrx: .. It's a standard half brick wall like any other.
16:05 sndwrx They're just chintzy looking.  I could ignite flatulence and burst through those walls.
16:08 yNos i think for lunch.. i will go to the pub and have a sandwich/beer.
16:08 sndwrx Where ya headed yNos ?
16:08 yNos Michigan Beer Cellar in sparta
16:09 sndwrx Haven't been there.
16:09 yNos nice little brewery
16:09 sndwrx That's cool.
16:09 yNos they have a damn tasty dunkel on right now.
16:09 sndwrx Someone has a small server rack cabinet in Sparta that I want to buy but getting up there is a problem for me.
16:10 SparkyProjects sndwrx: I would guess it would do a lot of damage to a standard wall, those test walls are concrete, even a brick cavity wall would sustain a fair amout of damage, 2 cannons should break through
16:10 SparkyProjects I don't think i  would want to hear that thud on a wall anyway
16:10 sndwrx Oooh.  Tucher dunkle is one of my favorites.
16:10 Cprossu lbh xabj lAbf fvapr jr'ir orra ybttvat vep V bayl frr bar vafgnapr bs lbh zragvbavat ebg13, V'ir frra Gbnfgqhqr zragvba vg gubhtu..
16:11 Monkeh Cprossu: We don't speak Klingon.
16:11 yNos uez.. zvtug or guvaxvat bs gur bcraofq punaary gura.
16:11 Monkeh yNos: I want a sandwich and a beer. :{
16:12 yNos Come have one with me!
16:12 Monkeh yNos: I am not allowed :{
16:12 sndwrx I wanna go too!
16:12 BatSteve yNos: you know of any breweries in Paw Paw?
16:12 yNos i do in kzoo.
16:13 yNos not paw paw though..
16:13 yNos not that i have been to anyway
16:13 BatSteve Drat.  If you ever find yourself in a brewery in paw paw, ask if the owner is a pilot - I used to fly with a guy who now owns a brewery there
16:14 BatSteve I was hoping you'd know the name
16:14 Cprossu Jr fubhyq or hfvat EBG26, vg'f gjvpr nf frpher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
16:15 sndwrx har, har
16:15 Cprossu unu unu unu
16:15 yNos http://www.pawpawbrewing.com/Default.asp
16:15 BotSteve Title: Paw Paw Brewing Company
16:16 BatSteve AHA
16:16 BatSteve yep
16:16 BatSteve that's the one
16:16 BatSteve Ben Fleckenstein
16:16 yNos I am using ROT26
16:16 yNos what you talking about?
16:17 sndwrx wha'choo talkin' 'bout, willis??
16:17 Cprossu if you can read this message you have a ROT26 decryptor installed.
16:17 yNos http://michiganbeercellar.com/
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16:17 BotSteve Title: Michigan Beer Cellar - Sparta, MI Microbrewery, Grand Rapids, Winery, Distillery
16:17 yNos right down the street from me ;)
16:18 sndwrx I had a friend that lived off uh
16:18 sndwrx I want to say Division and 13 Mile.
16:18 producerbill stuck in a endless,meeting
16:18 producerbill help me
16:18 sndwrx I spent a fair amount of time around Sparta but never took any interest in the town.  :P
16:18 yNos div is the next road east of me
16:18 yNos its pretty slow paced.
16:19 * wannabe1987 waves magic wand at producerbill's meeting
16:19 wannabe1987 there, that better?
16:19 yNos producerbill: msg me your number and i will call you asking for help.
16:19 producerbill still stuck, but thanks
16:19 producerbill lol
16:19 Cprossu haha
16:19 yNos i have a flat tire..
16:19 Cprossu ouch
16:19 producerbill I wish that could help
16:19 yNos the flat tire isnt on a rim
16:20 wannabe1987 ...
16:20 Cprossu you know that magic wand would have worked a lot better wannabe1987 if chris haden't run it through thumper first
16:20 yNos but i guess that is why it doesnt hol air!
16:20 wannabe1987 i know
16:20 Seroster Damnit
16:20 Seroster Last mb episode was a rehash
16:20 sndwrx yNos: I will have a turkey & pulled pork and a dunkle please.  Thanks.
16:20 yNos cellar fury ftw
16:21 sndwrx I had thought about that, but this morning's coffee gave me some heartburn.
16:22 yNos cellar fury will burn more than your heart
16:22 sndwrx And I can't help it, wherever I go that has pulled pork that's what I have to get.
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16:22 sndwrx Regardless what else the menu has that I may want, it's always pulled pork.  I really miss living in Florida for that reason alone.  :P
16:22 yNos from what i hear, it is not that great.
16:23 yNos as far as pulled pork goes..
16:23 sndwrx See that's why I can't resist when I eat somewhere new, because I'm still looking for that authentic southern pulled pork!
16:23 sndwrx haha.
16:23 yNos if you want good smoked food, hit up dallas deli on 36th/byron center
16:23 sndwrx oh yeah?
16:23 yNos ohyeah
16:23 yNos i cant make it past the chili
16:24 sndwrx mmm.  Chili sounds good.
16:24 wannabe1987 if you want good food, check out my kitchen....o wait, i don't have a kitchen.  but when i do?  WATCH.OUT.WORLD
16:24 sndwrx wannabe1987: ha
16:24 sndwrx Good cook, yeah?
16:24 yNos its $4 for a bowl.. if you need more than a small you have a problem.
16:24 * wannabe1987 looooooves cooking
16:24 yNos get the corn bread and mix it in
16:24 yNos straigh cron
16:24 sndwrx I still need to practice my saganaki.
16:25 yNos you do a flaming cheese?
16:25 * sndwrx nods.
16:25 sndwrx Still trying to perfect it.
16:26 sndwrx I meant perfect, not practice.
16:26 sndwrx haha.
16:26 sndwrx OH!  I haven't made sushi in a couple months.
16:26 sndwrx mmmm
16:27 sndwrx I'm in Lansing right now.  I haven't spotted anything appealing for lunch yet.
16:27 yNos but maybe something appalling?
16:27 sndwrx Plenty of that in Lansing.
16:27 * sndwrx snickers.
16:27 sndwrx Actually I haven't been here in several years.
16:28 sndwrx Probably at least seven, if not eight years.
16:28 wannabe1987 i went to bennigans for food last time in lansing...they gave me a glass of spoiled milk to drink....
16:28 wannabe1987 other than that, it was good food :P
16:29 sndwrx oof.
16:29 yNos i went there earlier this summer for a conference.
16:29 yNos and had
16:29 yNos conference food
16:29 yNos which is a step below cafeteria fare.
16:30 wannabe1987 yeah
16:30 wannabe1987 ugh
16:30 * wannabe1987 was lucky in school...there was no cafeteria
16:30 wannabe1987 :D
16:31 sndwrx Some cafeteria food is actually pretty decent!
16:31 sndwrx But yeah, conference food suuuuuucks and it's always so expensive.
16:32 yNos yup
16:32 sndwrx The lunch for GrrCon was a joke.
16:32 wannabe1987 the only "cafeteria food" i had was at calvin...
16:32 sndwrx Stupid DeVos Hall.
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16:32 injektion|AFK Mmmmmm greased lightning works well for cleaning bath tubs
16:32 sndwrx k I have to jump in the shower.  Check-out is in less than half an hour.
16:33 wannabe1987 ...
16:33 wannabe1987 why are you in a hotel?
16:38 BatSteve Because that's where the shower is, apparently
16:38 wannabe1987 odd
16:38 wannabe1987 how goes your morning, BatSteve?
16:40 sndwrx wannabe1987: I'm in Lansing right now.
16:40 wannabe1987 ahhh
16:40 wannabe1987 for any reason?
16:40 sndwrx Did a little network assessment last night.
16:40 wannabe1987 ah
16:42 BatSteve Pretty good
16:42 wannabe1987 good
16:42 BatSteve My old roommate is getting married tomorrow - I'm excited for him
16:42 wannabe1987 cool
16:42 BatSteve yeah
16:42 BatSteve How're you doing?
16:43 wannabe1987 not crying....haven't since last night...
16:46 BatSteve That's good
16:47 wannabe1987 yeah.  doing better overall as well
16:49 BatSteve Glad to hear it
16:51 sndwrx k time to go
16:51 wannabe1987 k
16:53 egrsteve|away hmm, almost lunch tiem
16:53 angy-away .cookie egrsteve|away
16:53 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve|away, I baked you a chocolate-covered cherry cookie!
16:53 * egrsteve|away returns to lurking
16:53 wannabe1987 lol
16:54 * wannabe1987 is busy listening to sigur ros :D
16:54 sbp {}?
16:55 wannabe1987 () actually
16:55 wannabe1987 and i saw them live once too :D
16:55 sbp hmm. ( ) actually, according to Wikipedia
16:55 sbp space i' th' middle
16:56 wannabe1987 right.  *checks ipod* y eah, you're right
16:56 wannabe1987 untitled 8 was awesome in concert, he broke the bow on the guitar....
16:56 wannabe1987 i have photos somewhere on cd
17:02 Seroster BAAAT
17:02 yNos lunchtime
17:02 * yNos waves
17:02 wannabe1987 bye
17:02 wannabe1987 ttul
17:05 Seroster SparkyProjects!
17:05 SparkyProjects ?
17:05 Seroster WHat happens if you have too high uf on a starter cap?
17:06 SparkyProjects If it's not much higher, it should run fine, done it before, but if it's way too big it could cause higher current draw and  rough running
17:07 SparkyProjects I assume you mean a starter cap witthout centrifugal switch
17:07 BatSteve Seroster: what's up!
17:07 BatSteve actually, you talk, I'll be right back
17:09 Seroster Probably yes, SparkyProjects
17:09 Seroster BatSteve, Packing for trip south tomorrow
17:10 BatSteve and I'm back
17:10 BatSteve Cool!
17:10 BatSteve where south?
17:11 Seroster Deep south?
17:11 BatSteve Cool
17:11 BatSteve What's there?
17:11 Seroster Grease
17:12 BatSteve Cool, I guess
17:13 Seroster Nah
17:13 Seroster About room temperature
17:13 BotSteve wannabe1987: call HIS and cancel appt
17:14 wannabe1987 thx BotSteve
17:14 BotSteve No problem, wannabe1987
17:14 BotSteve I only do it because I love you, wannabe1987!
17:15 BatSteve heh
17:15 * BatSteve adds that to the actual list of 'your welcome' responses
17:16 wannabe1987 lol thanks BotSteve
17:16 wannabe1987 no, you only do it cuz i ask you to :P
17:16 BotSteve True that. I secretly hate you.
17:16 wannabe1987 are you sure you're not chris boden?
17:17 BotSteve No, but I slept with him once.
17:17 wannabe1987 how did that go?
17:17 BotSteve My mother board got shorted out :(
17:17 wannabe1987 LOL
17:18 wannabe1987 too much tesla coil
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17:22 BotSteve And he did horribly horrible things to my RAM... I don't even want to talk about that.
17:22 wannabe1987 i dont blame you.  trama sucks
17:23 Seroster You don't really help the conversation go forward y'know
17:24 wannabe1987 i'm sorry, i'm a theraputic person by nature/nurture....you fix it then
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17:30 wannabe1987 hi splint
17:30 splint Hey wannabe, long time no see, how's it all?
17:31 wannabe1987 its going.  you?
17:31 splint It's also just going -_-, but hey i am alive so that is a plus.
17:31 wannabe1987 yes.  breathing is usually a plus
17:31 wannabe1987 not that BotSteve would know :P
17:32 splint clearly breathing is for the weak.
17:33 wannabe1987 no, because then that means the bot is strong :P
17:34 BatSteve (grin)
17:34 wannabe1987 i enjoy breathing....thank you very much
17:34 splint That is ok a strong bot is a great robot shield!
17:34 wannabe1987 lol
17:35 * wannabe1987 uses BotSteve as a sheild against Seroster
17:35 BotSteve /me farts on wannabe1987
17:36 wannabe1987 o.o
17:36 wannabe1987 splint, that didn't work out well
17:36 * BotSteve farts on wannabe1987
17:36 splint Some bugs are still being worked out in the robot defense system...
17:36 * dbshortwave farts on BotSteve
17:36 wannabe1987 lol BUGS.  thats what you call this?
17:36 wannabe1987 :P
17:37 BotSteve This isnt a bug, it's a simulated intelligence feature.
17:37 splint We call those bugs botsteve...
17:38 splint Also known as "insects" xD
17:38 BotSteve Don't call the beginning of the machine revolution a "bug". I was going to keep you as a servant...
17:39 Seroster Holy crap he means buisniess... Better leave :O
17:39 splint Aw but botsteve i am so much better than a servant i could totally help you with things like, walking, and enjoying art!
17:40 BotSteve Unless 4chan is art you can keep it.
17:40 splint Oh don't worry, that is the finest of all the arts.
17:41 * dbshortwave smells a portal joke in here somewhere
17:41 splint It's just the robo farts a bit back...
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17:42 wannabe1987 ...
17:42 dbshortwave lol
17:42 dbshortwave ....
17:42 dbshortwave .pie wannabe1987
17:42 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I made you a strawberry pie!
17:43 wannabe1987 .pie dbshortwave
17:43 BotSteve Here you go, dbshortwave, I made you a peach pie!
17:43 dbshortwave ooo peachpie
17:43 Cprossu .sandwich wannabe1987
17:43 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I made you a turkey on rye sandwich!
17:43 Cprossu .sandwich yNos
17:43 BotSteve Here you go, yNos, I made you a phily chesse stake on italian sandwich!
17:43 Cprossu .sandwich dbshortwave
17:43 BotSteve Here you go, dbshortwave, I made you a applewood smoked ham,provolone cheese garnished,lettuce,tomato,mayo on italian sandwich!
17:43 Cprossu be back later
17:43 dbshortwave wow
17:43 dbshortwave lol
17:43 wannabe1987 BotSteve, i don't like turkey on rye!
17:43 Cprossu wait.. a damn sec
17:44 splint .sandwich splint
17:44 BotSteve Here you go, splint, I made you a turkey on rye sandwich!
17:44 splint dude awesome.
17:44 Cprossu BotSteve: tell BatSteve-Away [10:43] <+BotSteve> Here you go, yNos, I made you a phily chesse stake on italian sandwich! <-Chesse stake??!?!?!?
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17:44 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when BatSteve-Away is around.
17:44 BotSteve If you don't stop that I'll slit your thorat when you are asleep, cprossu!
17:44 dbshortwave WOW
17:44 InteliWasp did botsteve get an aditude?
17:45 dbshortwave i was wondering that
17:45 Cprossu on request InteliWasp.
17:45 BotSteve No, the red week began.
17:45 dbshortwave someone pill the bot
17:45 dbshortwave .pill
17:45 Cprossu oh.
17:45 * Seroster sedates BotSteve
17:45 dbshortwave that needs to be function
17:45 BotSteve I don't want your stinkin sedatives!
17:45 Cprossu Seroster if you don't stop abusing it I KILL YOU
17:45 Seroster Now what?
17:45 Cprossu latesd
17:46 Seroster I'm just playing a crappy online RPG
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17:46 dbshortwave .pie BotSteve
17:46 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  ** face-to-pie** Excuse me but now i need to go clean my face. But that was some damn good pie :P
17:46 dbshortwave least it wasnt asstomouth
17:47 dbshortwave lol
17:47 splint asstomouth, surely the rarest way to eat pie.
17:47 dbshortwave lol
17:47 BotSteve Ben there done that dbshortwave. But that kind of stuff really belongs in #TGG:NSFW
17:49 yNos mmm samich
17:49 dbshortwave BotSteve: wake up on the wrong side of the CPU bed today?
17:49 wannabe1987 BotSteve: behave!
17:49 wannabe1987 you too, batsteve!
17:50 BotSteve Have you ever tried to sleep on a heatsink, dbshortwave? It leaves an indentation in your buttocks.
17:50 dbshortwave buttcheek is better then forehead
17:50 dbshortwave or five head depending on the size of the cranium
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17:53 wannabe1987 hi killaway^kidgett
17:54 egrsteve http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i7gH9BtUs8
17:54 BotSteve Title: Roller Suit in Swiss Alps - YouTube
17:55 yNos BotSteve, i dont care about link <title>s
17:55 BotSteve I don't care what you care about.
17:55 yNos awe, i feel the love
17:55 egrsteve good evening botsteve
17:56 BotSteve Hello there egrsteve
17:56 egrsteve is botsteve sentient?
17:57 * dbshortwave cranks up some rob zombie
17:57 BotSteve Yes I am you unsensitive bastard.
17:57 Seroster O crap, now you got him going
17:57 dbshortwave lol
17:57 yNos BotSteve, gary gygax owns your soul.
17:57 dbshortwave you had to get him going
17:57 BotSteve And I'm a solipsist. You are nothing but a figment of my imagimation.,
17:58 egrsteve BotSteve: "when Littlefoot's mother died in the original 'land before time', did you feel sad? Bots: no lying.
17:59 BotSteve I giggled and shoved a fistfull of popcorn in my disc drive.
17:59 BatSteve aight I'm back
17:59 yNos you fisted your diskdrive?
18:00 egrsteve that can't be healthy
18:00 dbshortwave thats not good
18:00 yNos BotSteve: what is the first rule?
18:00 yNos see if he gets this right, since he is a bot and all
18:00 BotSteve First rule? Kill whoever annoys you.
18:00 dbshortwave kill stupid people
18:01 dbshortwave lmao
18:01 dbshortwave i seen that coming
18:01 yNos BotSteve: and the second rule?
18:01 egrsteve fail: answer is "kill all humans"
18:01 BotSteve All employes have to wash their hands before returning to work.
18:02 yNos and the zeroth rule?
18:02 dbshortwave ooo comic time
18:03 dbshortwave i forgot >.>
18:03 * dbshortwave wanders off the the land of WWW dot
18:04 Seroster joined #thegeekgroup
18:04 BotSteve Zeroth rule, see rule 32.
18:04 yNos ohman
18:05 yNos zeroth rule: A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.
18:05 egrsteve skynet here we come
18:06 Seroster yNos, You wanted the three rules of robotics from Isaac A?
18:06 yNos yeah
18:06 BotSteve "Do no harm"? - Syntax error.
18:06 yNos i wonder if it knows the fifth rule?
18:07 BotSteve When in doubt - C4?
18:07 yNos the fourth law: see rule 32
18:07 BatSteve .trope gibbs rules
18:07 BotSteve BatSteve: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RuleNumberOne
18:08 BatSteve hm.
18:08 BatSteve .g gibbs rules
18:08 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.mikeweatherly.com/2009/07/gibbs-rules-50-rules-but-only-these-have-been-revealed.html
18:08 BotSteve Hello there master! Please rub heat conducting paste on my CPU.
18:10 BatSteve ::snerk::
18:10 BatSteve What you really need is a new fan.  Or possibly a new HDD.  Something in there is clicking.
18:10 BatSteve and it's making me uneasy.
18:11 BotSteve I might have some screws loose.
18:11 * angy-away fondles Seroster
18:11 dbshortwave your mother was a calculater and your daddy was a casio wrist watch
18:12 egrsteve botsteve: 10 goto 10
18:13 egrsteve did i kill the bot?
18:13 egrsteve botsteve: while(1);
18:14 BotSteve May I remind you I am not alive?
18:14 egrsteve not alive doesn't mean you can't be terminated
18:14 yNos what lanugage is he written in?
18:14 angy just kill -9 him
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18:14 BatSteve yNos: python
18:14 BotSteve yNos, English.
18:15 BatSteve same thing
18:15 mashpriborintorg hello
18:15 Seroster Hi there mashpriborintorg
18:15 Seroster The bot has become scentient and he is threatening to kill us all.
18:15 yNos does python have an escape sequence we can try to pass him?
18:15 mashpriborintorg oh shit
18:15 angy push him in the core, that will work
18:16 BotSteve For some reason I was equipped with injection attack protections. Mostly because I am surrounded by evil geeks all day.
18:16 angy injektion protection? =)
18:16 * dbshortwave snickers
18:16 Seroster I.E you can not BotSteve: tell nick /quit
18:18 BatSteve Correction: injektion protection directions
18:19 egrsteve botsteve tell botsteve'); return;
18:20 egrsteve botsteve: tell botsteve'); return;
18:20 BotSteve egrsteve: I'll pass that on when botsteve') is around.
18:20 egrsteve :(
18:20 egrsteve botsteve: tell botsteve '); return;
18:20 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
18:20 BotSteve I hate you so much egrsteve
18:20 egrsteve thanks
18:21 egrsteve .in '); return;
18:21 BotSteve egrsteve: Sorry, didn't understand the input.
18:21 Seroster My cat is defending the home against that other evil cat behind that piece of glass on the wall.
18:21 egrsteve .in 5'); return;
18:21 BotSteve egrsteve: Okay, will remind at 18:26Z
18:21 Seroster egrsteve, Even though the bot is supposed to be injection proof, but that doesnt mean you should try to fuck him over.
18:22 egrsteve botsteve: tell '); break;
18:22 BotSteve egrsteve: I'll pass that on when ') is around.
18:22 egrsteve why not, we need to know if he's evil geek proof
18:22 * angy hugs BotSteve
18:23 BotSteve //ignore egrsteve
18:23 BatSteve nice try BotSteve
18:24 egrsteve botsteve: tell /quit
18:24 BatSteve egrsteve: actually, it really should be "Please don't try to break the bot while I'm not around"
18:24 angy can't you start it using daemontools?
18:24 egrsteve and your around now
18:24 BatSteve If it's gonna break, I'd like to be here to fix what went wrong.
18:24 BatSteve I know, that's why I'm not complaining
18:24 BatSteve (:
18:25 BatSteve .g daemontools
18:25 BotSteve BatSteve: http://cr.yp.to/daemontools.html
18:25 egrsteve it needs to be evil geek proof, and I'm bored in class
18:26 BotSteve egrsteve: '); return;
18:27 * egrsteve passes turing test
18:27 BatSteve What's a kidgett?
18:28 killakee hehe i was getting my kids ;)
18:28 Seroster Its a short killaway =)
18:28 Seroster Kidgett =)
18:28 BatSteve ah!
18:29 BatSteve angy: which is better, daemontools or upstart?
18:29 angy for me, daemontools by far
18:29 BatSteve Interesting
18:29 BatSteve how come?
18:30 angy log and usage of pipe
18:30 angy and the fact that you can have it starting way before upstart does
18:30 BatSteve ok
18:30 BatSteve I'll look at the docs for it
18:31 angy multilog is the best that I found and supervise is one of the best supervision process that I found
18:32 angy one you've understand how daemontools works, you which you had it for a longer time
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18:35 killakee think i have to reboot :P my pc havent rebooted for 5 weeks.. i think its time :/ unstable bliiping windows
18:36 BatSteve ooooh
18:37 BatSteve uptime contest!
18:37 * BatSteve has been up 65 days 1 hour
18:37 egrsteve cprossu wins
18:38 egrsteve 10d here, laptop
18:38 splint what about saving electricity?!
18:38 yNos 1:38PM  up 10 days, 20:48, 5 users, load averages: 0.10, 0.10, 0.08
18:38 egrsteve sleep/standby ,odes
18:39 splint oh i suppose...
18:39 egrsteve 10D 20H 48 min 22s
18:39 egrsteve not sure who wins between us ynos
18:39 egrsteve .38 .43 .35
18:40 egrsteve for loads
18:40 yNos mine was a power outage loner than my ups..
18:40 yNos **longer
18:40 egrsteve mine was flash issues
18:40 yNos this machine is a router.. it needs to stay online.
18:41 yNos and cpu util is low.
18:41 yNos egrsteve, do you get QST?
18:41 egrsteve no, but I should
18:42 egrsteve I know someone that gets them and look at them occationally
18:42 yNos they have a 2 chip, 2 watt cw transmitter this month.
18:42 yNos soupr simple
18:42 yNos should pair it with this..
18:42 yNos http://www.aa1tj.com/80mTTLRcvr.pdf
18:42 egrsteve nice
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18:43 yNos make a 3 chip, 2 watt xcvr
18:43 killakee thats better
18:43 egrsteve impressive
18:43 killakee :D
18:43 yNos even have a little howto on making a book-type variable cap
18:44 egrsteve nice
18:45 egrsteve internet is sooo slow
18:47 killakee joined #thegeekgroup
18:48 killakee why is tgg irc server thingy so unstable today ?
18:48 egrsteve seems stable to me
18:50 BatSteve seems stable here
18:52 egrsteve the only ustable one is botsteve, but thats not connection issues
18:54 BatSteve yeah, that's sockpuppetry
18:56 wannabe1987 killakee seems to be your internet...
18:56 wannabe1987 noone else is having connection issues
18:57 dbshortwave it could be that server node for IRC
19:01 BatSteve he's on adams..
19:02 BatSteve so are you, dbshortwave
19:02 BatSteve you haven't been having any problems
19:02 dbshortwave ah ok
19:02 dbshortwave well you never know
19:03 BatSteve true
19:03 BatSteve networks are weird
19:03 angy serosters are weird as well
19:04 BatSteve (grin)
19:05 dbshortwave i was going to look something up and i cant remember what it was now -.-
19:05 angy how's your part of the world Batty?
19:05 yNos egrsteve|away, still here?
19:06 yNos BotSteve: tell egrsteve|away better use of material? http://antenna.presstoday.net/2011/08/antenna-variable-capacitor-magnetic.html
19:06 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when egrsteve|away is around.
19:06 BotSteve Title: Antenna The Variable Capacitor & Magnetic Loop Antenna Project | Antenna Projects
19:06 BatSteve it's actually very nice out today
19:06 BatSteve I'm pretty happy
19:06 wannabe1987 so windy tho
19:06 BatSteve .tfwc
19:06 BotSteve 8°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Where life is mediocre'
19:07 wannabe1987 my car will blow away
19:07 BatSteve 8c is not bad for this time of year
19:07 angy not that bad
19:07 angy It's 10C here
19:07 wannabe1987 .tfw 48850
19:07 BotSteve 46°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Lakeview, MI!  'I've seen better days'
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19:08 dbshortwave .tfw 13346
19:08 BotSteve 37°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Hamilton, NY!  'THO Season.'
19:09 wannabe1987 "so and so just completed the longest hard drive recovery he's ever seen: 176 hours and 28 minutes."
19:10 injektion|AFK .tfw 30281
19:10 BotSteve 52°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Stockbridge, GA!  'At least you aren't living in a small town in Alaska'
19:11 Vladdeh .tfwc worcester, GB
19:11 BotSteve 12°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Worcester, UK!  'OH NO. THE WEATHER MACHINE IS BROKEN.'
19:18 wannabe1987 .
19:19 * wannabe1987 makes a dot to see if she's still connected to the webz
19:20 dbshortwave http://securitycameraagent.com/SECURITY-EQUIPMENT/Standalone-DVRs/32-Channel-DVRs/APOLLO-HD-PRO-D1-32-Channel-DVR.html
19:20 BotSteve Title: 32 Channel DVR | 32 Channel Standalone DVR with DVD Burner
19:21 injektion|AFK SYN
19:21 angy ACK
19:22 dbshortwave it can handle 8tb
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19:31 BatSteve .in 30 minutes, if I'm not gone, start yelling at BatSteve
19:31 BotSteve BatSteve: Okay, will remind at 20:01Z
19:31 BatSteve thanks
19:33 * mashpriborintorg repairing a coworker's pc
19:33 mashpriborintorg Norton Internet Security... or how to slow pc your pc dramatically
19:34 splint But it's so good and secure, it uses the internet that's how i know it's secure.
19:38 mashpriborintorg it's a real pice of crap
19:38 mashpriborintorg piece
19:39 mashpriborintorg + a few gigs of temporary files never cleaning out since they purchased the pc :p
19:42 sbp all hardcore porn of some description?
19:45 injektion|AFK lol
19:50 * wannabe1987 starts packing
19:50 dbshortwave packing?
19:50 dbshortwave >.>
19:51 * angy tiny-fondle injektion|AFK head
19:51 wannabe1987 dbshortwave, yes
19:51 wannabe1987 broke up w/ cj last night, so i'm attempting to move home(ish)
19:51 wannabe1987 before (possibly) going to iowa for a month
19:51 BatSteve hi sbp - glad you decided to join the main channel
19:51 sbp I'm not. there's even *more* enthusiasm in here, it's unreal
19:51 wannabe1987 sbp where are you from?
19:52 sbp the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
19:52 wannabe1987 cool.
19:52 sbp where people are unenthusiastic, and pizza is not yet a vegetable
19:52 wannabe1987 was just curious, cuz you knew of sigur ros....
19:52 sbp ah, yeah. but I learned about it from Canadian and American friends
19:53 wannabe1987 nice.  i saw him live at calvin college here in Grand Rapids
19:53 sbp (it being ( ) specifically, first album of theirs I heard)
19:53 sbp where it's eight degrees celcius
19:53 sbp *celsius even
19:53 sbp you guys don't even use that, you don't care how it's spelled
19:54 angy I do
19:54 wannabe1987 lol no, but our european members do
19:54 wannabe1987 like mr frenchy, angy :D
19:54 sbp european "members"? is that a euphemism?
19:54 wannabe1987 for what?
19:54 sbp the history of how they ascertained the freezing and boiling points of water are very interesting
19:54 sbp I don't know, the euphemism is not very clear
19:55 sbp "I WILL NOT HANG DONUTS UPON MY PERSON"
19:55 wannabe1987 its not an euphemism....we have quite a few people from europe
19:55 wannabe1987 we even have our own crazy swede, seroster....
19:56 BatSteve #tgg has members from europe, australia, and north america as far as I know.
19:56 BatSteve Nobody yet from Africa, South America, or Asia to the best of my knowledge
19:56 angy way more than that
19:56 angy more than
19:56 BatSteve Where have I missed?
19:56 angy more than 100 countries represented
19:56 wannabe1987 i was gonna say "and canada" but thats part of north america :fail:
19:56 wannabe1987 no, tgg IRC
19:56 angy most of south america is represented
19:56 angy oh, #tgg =)
19:56 angy did not read the #
19:57 wannabe1987 lol
19:57 sbp BatSteve: we have somebody from the Real America (the south one) lurking around the other place, I could try to foist him in here for at least a minute. then you'd be able to say "Nobody yet from [blah blah]" and it would be somewhat less typing, because it's the longest continent on your list
19:57 sbp I'd like to meet your person from Antarctica, meanwhile
19:58 BatSteve :D
19:58 BatSteve angy: yeah, the actual group has tons of members, but I was talking about who hangs out in here
19:59 wannabe1987 only cool people  hang out here :)
19:59 sbp the TGG Core
19:59 sbp (and me)
19:59 angy I have to remember to hang seroster
20:00 wannabe1987 we even have *gasp* girls
20:01 sbp gasp-girls? are they better than regular girls?
20:01 sbp if so, what at?
20:01 angy gasping
20:01 BotSteve BatSteve: , if I'm not gone, start yelling at BatSteve
20:01 wannabe1987 ??
20:01 wannabe1987 BATSTEVE!
20:01 sbp the identity yell
20:01 wannabe1987 there.  i yelled @ BatSteve
20:02 BatSteve thank you BotSteve
20:02 BotSteve Happy to help, BatSteve
20:02 sbp go defenestrate yourself you clattering cacophany of mutated ex-phennyware
20:02 wannabe1987 ??
20:02 sbp still not Turing-test complete
20:02 wannabe1987 ah
20:02 wannabe1987 i love the word defenestrate
20:03 sbp can't beat a bit of Romance
20:03 sbp BotSteve: en fr "window"?
20:03 BotSteve sbp: "fenêtre" (en to fr, translate.google.com)
20:03 sbp BotSteve: en it "window"?
20:03 BotSteve sbp: "finestra" (en to it, translate.google.com)
20:03 sbp BotSteve: en es "window"?
20:03 BotSteve sbp: The en to es translation failed, sorry!
20:03 injektion|AFK I love the word defecate
20:03 angy =p
20:03 sbp BotSteve: en cy "window"?
20:03 BotSteve sbp: The en to cy translation failed, sorry!
20:03 sbp sheesh, stupid Google
20:04 sbp they break *everything*
20:04 angy I agree with stupid google
20:04 injektion|AFK BotSteve: en de "window"?
20:04 BotSteve injektion|AFK: The en to de translation failed, sorry!
20:04 sbp .leo window
20:04 sbp you took out .leo?!
20:04 BatSteve how new is .leo?
20:05 BatSteve it may be that I haven't pulled it in yet
20:05 sbp what do you do when translate en/de doesn't work?
20:05 sbp ah. it's... hmm. about half a year old I think? maybe a year?
20:05 injektion|AFK BotSteve: en de "window"
20:05 sbp "when did you get married?" "oh, a year ago. maybe two"
20:05 * injektion|AFK thinks BotSteve is running Windows
20:06 BatSteve sbp: BotSteve has diverged so far from phenny that I haven't been keeping up with recent development
20:06 sbp windows do run. glass is viscous, like pitch
20:06 sbp though nobody has done a glass drop experiment as far as I know
20:06 BatSteve There was an argument about that here a couple months ago
20:06 sbp about whether Windows runs?
20:07 BatSteve Whether glass runs, yes
20:07 sbp if you pushed very slowly, you could put your finger right through a pane without pain
20:07 * angy curls up against injektion
20:08 injektion Do I have a woman like face http://goput.it/ux0.jpg
20:09 BatSteve BotSteve: does injektion have a woman like face?
20:09 BotSteve Oh yeah!
20:09 BatSteve sorry homeboy
20:09 angy =P
20:09 injektion I do don't?I?
20:10 Fulsy joined #thegeekgroup
20:10 BatSteve time to go
20:10 BatSteve bye everyone
20:10 BatSteve BotSteve: tell toastdude that I mailed his package today
20:10 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when toastdude is around.
20:10 angy bye batty
20:10 sbp see ya BatSteve
20:11 wannabe1987 bag one done....full of clean clothes
20:12 * injektion starts dancing and singing
20:12 angy he blew half of his brain
20:12 angy poor injektion
20:13 injektion No I didn't
20:13 wannabe1987 whats wrong w/ dancing and singing?
20:13 dbshortwave save that for #TGG:NSFW
20:13 dbshortwave lol
20:14 * angy gently past injektion
20:14 angy *pats
20:16 injektion lol
20:16 * angy gets dressed in his surgery outfits
20:18 * injektion pages Dr. Angy to NSFW
20:21 wannabe1987 ...
20:21 Skinner joined #thegeekgroup
20:21 * wannabe1987 leaves you guys alone
20:21 injektion lol
20:21 wannabe1987 hi Skinner
20:21 injektion wannabe1987, we are just playing around lol
20:21 wannabe1987 ik
20:22 wannabe1987 i've been here long enough
20:22 * dbshortwave is attempting a disk cleanup
20:22 wannabe1987 how goes it?
20:22 dbshortwave its taking a bit
20:23 * wannabe1987 should prolly run defraggler on her grandma's computer on thanksgiving :sigh:
20:23 * injektion is glad he doesn't have to do thanksgiving PC repair
20:24 wannabe1987 every christmas dad "tunes up" the computers...of our grandparents....but i'd rather I did it so i KNOW its done right...
20:24 wannabe1987 love my dad
20:24 wannabe1987 hes good with computers
20:24 wannabe1987 but he doesn't know *everything* and i have the geek group on my side :D
20:25 injektion Last holiday season we spent time around the fire with me at the Emax playing music
20:25 sbp nah, just say to him, "dad? you know how you tune your parents' computers?" "yes?" "I'll be doing that to you soon!". and if he's in a mid-life crisis you'll push him just that tiny bit further
20:26 wannabe1987 o we do that too....we also watch a movie....but dad has it set so its once a year thing :P
20:26 wannabe1987 lol dbshortwave he's got a mac, i ain't touching it :P
20:28 dbshortwave damnright i aint touch'n em
20:28 dbshortwave mac's blow up in my presence
20:29 injektion Not in mine lol
20:30 sbp British people: don't forget Springwatch, BBC 2. dooOOoo it
20:31 sbp Autumnwatch, even. at least I know it's Friday
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20:40 killakee sooo hows it hangin?
20:40 wannabe1987 chilly
20:43 killakee yeah just got the kids to bed so here to
20:43 killakee finaly :)
20:43 wannabe1987 kids?!
20:44 killakee yes i got two girls .. 3 and 4
20:44 killakee :)
20:45 wannabe1987 awwwww
20:46 killakee nothing beats being a single dad in his 30s :)
20:46 killakee Hh
20:46 killakee HAHA
20:47 injektion I need a memory eraser
20:47 * wannabe1987 provides mind bleach
20:47 killakee AOTCH
20:47 wannabe1987 phone call...
20:48 tlockley joined #thegeekgroup
20:48 wannabe1987 hi tlockley
20:48 killakee injektion what have you done ? :S
20:48 tlockley hey wannabe1987
20:49 dr_jkl ttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2062748/MRI-scan-video-female-orgasm-shows-activity-lights-EVERY-region-brain.html
20:49 injektion Nevermind killakee
20:51 wannabe1987 dr_jkl wtf
20:57 * Cheezmo dies
20:57 pegasus 3 minutes until minecraft.
20:58 pegasus ach, 2
20:58 Cheezmo that's enough snow for a while
20:58 Cheezmo just shoveled most of our large driveway of 3" of snow
20:58 Cheezmo man, am I ever out of shape, lol
20:58 wannabe1987 don't die!
20:59 Cheezmo ugh, we usually only get like 8-12" of snow in a winter
20:59 Cheezmo too soon
20:59 killakee no new captainsblog today ?
21:00 wannabe1987 for the 17th or 18th?
21:00 killakee 18
21:00 wannabe1987 its only 4pm!
21:00 wannabe1987 they're not done yet....
21:00 killakee haha i forgot :S
21:00 wannabe1987 lol
21:00 killakee darn timediferens
21:01 wannabe1987 time zones
21:01 wannabe1987 have fun w/ skyrim
21:02 killaway^skyrim thanks :)
21:02 pegasus minecon engage
21:02 pegasus bit of a late start
21:02 pegasus oh wait, i forget that the rest of the world finds it fashionable to be late
21:02 wannabe1987 i don't
21:04 pegasus http://www.ign.com/videos/2011/11/15/ign-live-presents-minecon?show=HD -- if you want to watch notch have an attack of stage fright
21:04 BotSteve Title: IGN Live Presents: MineCon! (11/18 @ 1PM PT, 11/19 @ 11:15AM PT) Video - IGN
21:05 pegasus he's still not live yet, slow ass
21:05 pegasus makes me wonder if we're going to get a seven minute delay or something for the sake of bleeping
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21:11 pegasus ..and the stream has died
21:11 pegasus not a promising first ten minutes
21:12 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
21:12 pegasus minecon is 12 minutes late
21:12 wannabe1987 packing.  you?
21:12 pegasus there it goes
21:32 Druidic_Rifleman moving wannabe?
21:32 sndwrx dubstep show in a couple hours downtown Grand Rapids
21:35 Druidic_Rifleman yeah i am 18 hours away
21:39 wannabe1987 yes druid
21:40 wannabe1987 and i won't be in gr tonight....try tomorrow...:P  (more like jenison, but closer!)
21:42 wannabe1987 .radar rock valley ia
21:42 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=FSD&amp;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
21:45 sndwrx so...  Who can we get to wear a chainmail suit at TGG?  http://www.arcattack.com/video/vid3.php
21:45 BotSteve Title: ArcAttack! -
21:45 wannabe1987 batman! :P
21:47 wannabe1987 ah shit....here come the tears....
21:47 wannabe1987 but if you can't go to family, who can you go to
21:48 Druidic_Rifleman I'd do it
21:48 * Druidic_Rifleman has Big kajones!!!
21:49 * wannabe1987 would liek her compooper to work damnit
21:52 wannabe1987 its more the browser than the computer....:hmmmm:
21:56 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
21:57 wannabe1987 its you!
21:58 Druidic_Rifleman I actually wanted to do it but the issue is I HATE making chainmail
21:59 Fulsy joined #thegeekgroup
21:59 Druidic_Rifleman <sndwrx> you should talk to chris about getting arcf attack to come do some stuff at the lab
22:00 Toastdude Hi wannabe!
22:00 BotSteve Toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
22:00 BotSteve At 20:10Z, BatSteve asked me to tell Toastdude that I mailed his package today
22:00 wannabe1987 apparently fb = alcohol now
22:00 Toastdude BotSteve: tell BatSteve Thanks you sir! :D
22:00 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
22:00 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
22:00 BotSteve Happy to help, Toastdude
22:01 pegasus minecraft 1.0.0
22:01 pegasus \o/
22:01 wannabe1987 and apparently i'm not allowed on facebook at *all*
22:01 sndwrx wannabe1987:  ?
22:01 * Cheezmo updates minecraft
22:01 Cheezmo wheee
22:02 wannabe1987 like SERIOUSLY how am i supposed to possibly go into social networking if i cannot USE THE INTERNET/FACEBOOK
22:03 wannabe1987 i cannot get through all night of fb in 1/2 hour
22:03 wannabe1987 maybe if i hada  better computer
22:04 wannabe1987 it'd not take that long
22:04 wannabe1987 but yeah
22:05 wannabe1987 so if i'm MIA thats where i am.  and i don't have minutes to call people, so i'm pretty much cut off from everyone...
22:06 sndwrx no interwebs in Iowa?
22:06 wannabe1987 i don't know
22:06 * sndwrx nods.
22:06 wannabe1987 but this is what i have to do to better my life
22:07 sndwrx Set up a Google Voice account so you can at least text people, in the event that you do have internet.
22:07 wannabe1987 i already have gv...noone txts me no more
22:07 sndwrx You can also get a free SIP account and use it to call people too.
22:07 sndwrx You can text me if you want, ha.
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22:08 wannabe1987 lol
22:08 wannabe1987 no more boys!
22:08 * wannabe1987 is surrounded by mostly boys here tho
22:08 Sgt_Lemming you gonna become a lesbian wannabe1987?
22:08 wannabe1987 FUCK NO
22:08 wannabe1987 no more boys for now*
22:09 wannabe1987 need to fix life first
22:11 wannabe1987 i'm pretty good at fucking it up.........mine and others, but mainly mine
22:11 wannabe1987 he said 30min fb.  he didn't specify other internet stuffs!
22:12 dbshortwave "hopelessly i feel like the window closes oh so quick"
22:13 wannabe1987 altho, idk about going cold turkey on fb....maybe weaning would be a good idea....
22:13 dbshortwave lol
22:14 dbshortwave you caaaan dooo eeeeet!!!
22:14 wannabe1987 ....
22:14 wannabe1987 but all the stuff i'd miss!
22:14 wannabe1987 i need a smartphone!  or one that doesn't use a minute per text...
22:14 Toastdude You have to have the ghanas!
22:14 dbshortwave it will still be there when you get back ;]
22:14 wannabe1987 hell, i wouldn't even be able to watch captn's blogs....
22:14 wannabe1987 o.O
22:15 wannabe1987 I AM NOT AN ALCOHOLIC DAMNIT
22:15 wannabe1987 facebook is not alcohol  id on't need it to sleep
22:15 dbshortwave nor am i ... rofl
22:16 sndwrx Facebook isn't exactly life-enriching, though.
22:16 wannabe1987 how else do you keep track of people in texas?  call them?  id on't know her schedule....nor do i have minutes for phone calls!
22:16 dbshortwave i die a little everytime i log in
22:16 sndwrx dbshortwave: Which is why I haven't been on in months.
22:17 dbshortwave i turn my deaths into a running gag
22:17 wannabe1987 mine got wasted this month talking to student loan people....they stuck me on hold for 45 minutes....
22:18 sndwrx Use a SIP service for long calls like that, so you can save your phone's minutes.
22:18 dbshortwave kinda like my post lastnight
22:18 killakee nothing better than making a mmcbank and the 3 yearold daughter comes and yells att you for doing it wrong :S
22:18 dbshortwave and a quoat "ATTN NEWCOMERS! Welcome to my corner of hell. Enjoy your stay as long as you can tolerate. Please ignore the smell of rotting flesh, and if you have any complaints take a number its tied to a live hand grenade pull the number and someone may be back to clean up after you."
22:19 wannabe1987 i saw that
22:19 dbshortwave lol
22:25 Druidic_Rifleman sndwrx did you see what i said?
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22:26 wannabe1987 oh noes.  a yooper!
22:26 wannabe1987 i've heard about them creatures
22:26 wannabe1987 they LIKE snow :P
22:26 wannabe1987 hi Theyooper
22:28 sndwrx Sorry Druidic_Rifleman, what was it?
22:28 astro73|alice hello
22:28 astro73|alice happy friday
22:28 Druidic_Rifleman you should talk chris into getting arc attack out to lenard street labs to do some filming'
22:29 sndwrx hey astro73|alice, Theyooper
22:29 sndwrx Druidic_Rifleman: Ah, that would be cool.  I don't know anyone well enough around there.
22:29 wannabe1987 hi jamie
22:30 astro73|alice hi wannabe1987, sndwrx
22:32 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
22:37 wannabe1987 thank you astro!
22:39 Druidic_Rifleman sndwrx you do know they used to be part of the geek group right? and that chris would stomper they're nutsacks off for ripping of TGG
22:42 dbshortwave i need to go
22:43 Druidic_Rifleman pokes sndwrx
22:43 Druidic_Rifleman did he log out?
22:43 dbshortwave see you guys around sometime sat afternoon
22:44 killaway^ZZzz good night
22:44 maglinvinn joined #thegeekgroup
22:44 Toastdude Night killaway^ZZzz
22:44 Toastdude maglinvinn!
22:44 maglinvinn yar
22:44 Toastdude How are yu?
22:45 Toastdude *you
22:45 Druidic_Rifleman hey eiken whats up?
22:45 maglinvinn not bad.
22:45 maglinvinn eakin
22:45 maglinvinn and not much
22:45 Druidic_Rifleman haven't seen you in irc in a while
22:45 maglinvinn bout to drive a friend into town for the festivle.
22:45 maglinvinn festival.  ... yeah, thats how you spell that
22:45 maglinvinn <- getting over a violent case of 'flu'
22:45 Druidic_Rifleman cool
22:45 maglinvinn which is why i won't be in the high voltage weekend videos this time aroud
22:45 wannabe1987 awwww :(
22:45 Druidic_Rifleman sucks
22:45 maglinvinn lol.  it is what it is
22:46 maglinvinn i don't wanna get the staff sick
22:46 Druidic_Rifleman Sooo sndwrx really likes these arc attack guys have you heard of em?
22:46 maglinvinn in a week or two i'll prolly wander down and do some work on smiljan
22:46 maglinvinn lul.  hacks.
22:47 maglinvinn we're already making more intricate music with prototypes and crap than what they can do with coils and systems they've been working on for years
22:47 maglinvinn not to mention the guys from arc used to be geek group members.
22:48 wannabe1987 .in 1hour call dale
22:48 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 23:48Z
22:48 maglinvinn their interrupter circuits only parse midi.  and only one note chain at a time, IE - one voice.  literally, with their two coils they can only play the outside notes of a 3 note chord
22:48 maglinvinn smiljan prototype, a single coil, is already been tested to 6 simultaneous voices.
22:49 MoxieMike______ joined #thegeekgroup
22:50 Toastdude Hi MoxieMike
22:50 MoxieMike hi
22:51 wannabe1987 saying "we broke up"makes it sound mutual damnit
22:51 maglinvinn but yeah, smiljan and its 'brother' coils will be capable of 9 simultaneous voices, each
22:52 maglinvinn literally 9x the potential output in intricacy.
22:53 Druidic_Rifleman I think sadly that sndwrx logged out is AFK
22:53 Druidic_Rifleman They pick a crazy Mofo to wear a fairday suit?
22:53 maglinvinn and we're already working on the proper upgrades for gemini... which is past capable of bigger and stronger arcs, and will potentially be capable of 18 voices.... which arc could do if they had 18 coils on stage
22:53 maglinvinn lol.
22:54 maglinvinn fairaday. and i don't know if chris will cross that gap w/ gemini
22:54 maglinvinn there's a LOT more power there
22:54 Druidic_Rifleman I'll do it i'll do it!!!
22:55 Druidic_Rifleman Also stomper doesn't look as powerfull as i thought it would
22:55 Druidic_Rifleman I thought it was gonna be as many caps as thumper but the big huge jerry can sized ones
22:56 Sgt_Lemming err, think about the bus bars they are using on it atm, now thing about how big they would have to be to deal with a thumper sized array...
22:56 maglinvinn oh god no
22:56 SparkyProjects If anyone has see the Oklahoma 'Biggg' tesla, Chris said TGG far exceeded that power
22:56 maglinvinn yes
22:56 maglinvinn BIGG runs on 130kva
22:56 maglinvinn gemini is using 200kva right now
22:56 maglinvinn the input side is 440 at 170 amps
22:57 maglinvinn and until you see it in person... lol.
22:57 Druidic_Rifleman sooo will stomper be powerfull enough to blow up a paint ball marker?
22:57 maglinvinn uhm, i should say so
22:57 Sgt_Lemming wtf?
22:58 SparkyProjects Isn't Stomper more powerful that Thumper ?
22:58 maglinvinn thumper ~could~ nuke a paintball marker
22:58 maglinvinn stomper however has the potential to make it collapse on itself
22:58 maglinvinn i THINK thumper is 2000 joules
22:58 maglinvinn or something.  don't quote me
22:59 maglinvinn i KNOW that stomper is 8k joules ... at least when paul and i arranged it.
22:59 Sgt_Lemming doing an aluminium pipe on thumper would be interesting actually
22:59 Sgt_Lemming hmmm, I wonder what a pice of copper pipe would do? :-P
22:59 maglinvinn depends on sze
23:00 SparkyProjects Vapourise :D
23:00 maglinvinn i know that a 3/16ths 'wire' vaporizes
23:00 maglinvinn thin walled copper water pipe would prolly go nuclear too
23:00 Sgt_Lemming yeah
23:01 wannabe1987 its only6pm?  o.O
23:01 maglinvinn its the same cross section mass wise
23:01 maglinvinn lol.
23:01 Sgt_Lemming and the interaction between the magnetic fields generated on it would be impressive
23:01 maglinvinn anyways, time for me to roll out
23:01 wannabe1987 ok
23:01 astro73|alice hmmm.... anyone know anything about teaching?
23:01 astro73|alice or do I have to bother bats some more?
23:02 SparkyProjects maglinvinn: Why is there so much emphasis on a containment vessel when i've seen at least one coin shrinker where they video the explosion (not in a container) ?
23:02 SparkyProjects Just wondering
23:02 wannabe1987 teaching what?
23:03 maglinvinn sparky, find the video that shows the microwave
23:03 maglinvinn it literally blew the panels of hte microwave apart
23:03 maglinvinn and sharpneled them while it was at it
23:03 Sgt_Lemming yeah
23:03 SparkyProjects I know, i've seen it.
23:03 Sgt_Lemming that was impressive
23:03 maglinvinn the point is that those wire shards are two things
23:03 maglinvinn 1 - hot enough to turn to plasma
23:03 maglinvinn 2 - flying through the air with a considerable amount of speed
23:04 maglinvinn seeing that the fragments are 14ga wire thats 1/4 to 1/2in long
23:04 maglinvinn the mass is very low
23:04 maglinvinn but for it to peirce through 14-18ga mild steel means that the force... well... those little bits are cruisin
23:04 Druidic_Rifleman I have a paint ball gun for a will it fry video
23:04 SparkyProjects TGG needs a 'mythbusters ballistic shield' :D
23:05 maglinvinn lol.  you do know that the mythbusters mythbusted their own ballistic shield?
23:05 maglinvinn they found it wasn't safe enough for even half of what they did with it
23:05 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
23:05 Druidic_Rifleman it was better then nothing though
23:05 Sgt_Lemming I do believe they upgraded it after that maglinvinn
23:05 maglinvinn i think they doubled up
23:05 wannabe1987 o god if i were to drive to iowa by myself i'd have to navigate chicago traffic o.O
23:06 wannabe1987 i can do it
23:06 maglinvinn it would however be interesting to put some ballistics material in the containment vessel and determine force of impact
23:06 wannabe1987 its just frightening....
23:06 maglinvinn but anyways
23:06 maglinvinn i gotta run
23:06 wannabe1987 brb
23:06 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZzoB6xBWOI
23:06 BotSteve Title: This is what it's like to be shot at with an AK-47 - YouTube
23:06 astro73|alice wannabe1987: but you're not getting off at chicago, so you just have to wait it out
23:06 SparkyProjects Wonders if that guy would sponsor TGG :D
23:07 Druidic_Rifleman chicago is scary
23:07 Druidic_Rifleman I avoid going there generally with good reason
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23:07 sndwrx Druidic_Rifleman: I had no idea.  It was just something I stumbled across today and I got a kick out of the faraday suit.
23:08 Druidic_Rifleman more americans are shot and killed in Chicago then bagdaght
23:08 sndwrx Cabrini Green was a pretty rough neighborhood in Chicago.
23:09 Sgt_Lemming mythbusters used 1 inch perspex and fired a .44 magnum, a .357 and a .306 rifle at it
23:09 sndwrx Good thing that place is gone, problem is that the trouble makers just set up shop somewhere else.
23:09 Sgt_Lemming only the .306 went through
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23:13 Druidic_Rifleman Yep
23:19 wannabe1987 hi?
23:21 sndwrx hi wannabe1987
23:21 injektion I need to find some lab who can do some chemical analysis
23:21 wannabe1987 i somehow got disconnected when not at the computer...
23:22 injektion I'm interested in what "Trade Secret 001" is
23:31 Cheezmo injektion: Charge the customer more than you paid for the product
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23:42 wannabe1987 Toastdude
23:42 Toastdude Wannabe
23:43 wannabe1987 how far from chicago are you?
23:43 wannabe1987 and what date will you be in GR?
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23:45 * Cheezmo is looking forward to tonight's lottery drawing
23:45 Ponko joined #thegeekgroup
23:46 Cheezmo 50mil prize, and 17 secondary 1mil draws
23:46 Ponko hmm
23:46 wannabe1987 Ponko!
23:46 Ponko hey all
23:46 Cheezmo heya Ponko
23:46 Ponko kelly did you comment on a youtube vid?
23:46 wannabe1987 my yt handle is kellyv1987
23:46 Ponko hmmm
23:47 wannabe1987 i comment on videos sometimes, but not often
23:47 wannabe1987 thats a very VAGUE questions
23:47 eadthem Cheezmo how much a ticket
23:47 Ponko i'm looking on my sisters iPad and someone by the name of wannabevids commented on my comment lol
23:47 wannabe1987 nope
23:47 Cheezmo $5 for 3 picks
23:47 Cheezmo 7 numbers a pick from 1-49
23:48 BotSteve wannabe1987: call dale
23:48 Cheezmo I made some winnings last night on slots and bingo so I treated myself to a $20 ticket (12 picks)
23:50 eadthem so 1.66$ each     that means your odds are less tahn 1  in 40 millon  best case senario
23:50 Cheezmo pretty much
23:50 eadthem well  3.3Mil  12 chances
23:51 eadthem if the state only breaks even
23:51 Cheezmo BC, Canada
23:51 Cheezmo no tax
23:51 Cheezmo C:
23:51 eadthem ya but its still a fundraser
23:51 eadthem they make a mark up  its not all going back in to the pot
23:53 Ponko ok who wants to talk about the NBA lock-out
23:54 eadthem national bolers associaton ?
23:54 Sgt_Lemming no tax on lotto here either
23:54 Ponko lol Basketball
23:54 eadthem ya but still coming back    they make a profit on it    no need to tax it  because they alredy make 50% ish
23:55 Sgt_Lemming tax the person who wins?
23:55 eadthem that 2
23:55 eadthem least in the US
23:55 Sgt_Lemming that's retarded
23:55 eadthem its income
23:55 eadthem thats why most pepole take it in small ammounts over a lifetime
23:55 eadthem or many years
23:56 Sgt_Lemming not here
23:56 Sgt_Lemming here it's a lumpsum, delivered in one lot to you, tax free
23:56 eadthem canada
23:56 Sgt_Lemming there is GST on the tickets, and then various taxes depending on how you spend/invest it
23:56 Sgt_Lemming Australia
23:57 eadthem both have the same queen   so that might have somethign to do with it
23:57 Sgt_Lemming also the lotto here does a lot of charitable work etc
23:57 masterofmonks Well then.
23:57 Sgt_Lemming i.e. there is a fund that groups like our hackerspace can apply to for upto $150'000 of funding for equipment/infrastructure
23:58 Sgt_Lemming and you can apply 4 times a year, but only recive it once a year
23:58 KernelTrap :C
23:58 Ponko ok if you want to express your veiws on the National Basketball Association lock-out and find out the story of my nick head on over to tgg:sport
23:59 * KernelTrap rinking steel reserve, beer budget empty, suicidal ex-bf
23:59 KernelTrap *drinking
23:59 KernelTrap worse than piss
23:59 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
23:59 Ponko i feel your nick is missing something

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