Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-20

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00:00 zimm_swe i noticed that a while ago.. really annoying
00:01 zimm_swe now i mute my browser when i dont want sound... <3 win 7
00:03 SparkyProjects I find if you have the stream muted, ads rarely play sound, but i think if you try to mute once the ad is playing, you get sound still
00:04 sndwrx Guess I just haven't watched the stream much beyond the first ad, haha.
00:04 Druidic_Rifleman is that iscar rick again
00:05 Druidic_Rifleman and i am alive
00:05 SparkyProjects I usually have my stream sound muted last thing at night when i close the browser, so when i open next day it's already muted, just wait till after the ad before unmuting, you only get the one ad for each pageload.
00:06 SparkyProjects yes, that's rick, he's been doing stuff for stomper i thnk
00:06 masterofmonks SparkyProjects.
00:06 SparkyProjects ?
00:07 masterofmonks Look around.
00:07 SparkyProjects I did :)
00:07 Druidic_Rifleman Cool
00:07 Druidic_Rifleman i have a paint ball gun for stomper to eat
00:08 Druidic_Rifleman any one at the lab in irc
00:09 Druidic_Rifleman tgg|yNos?
00:09 Druidic_Rifleman TggMC1
00:11 zimm_swe dont seem like it
00:13 * tonsofpcs really needs to bug his landlord about fixing the light in his bedroom
00:19 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
00:19 * lwq1996 POKE
00:19 masterofmonks Oh, there he is.
00:20 lwq1996 who, is he behind me
00:20 * lwq1996 looks
00:20 lwq1996 god im bored
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00:25 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.twitch.tv/druidicrifleman/b/300437064# Some bits of the minecraft server zozo runs
00:25 BotSteve Title: druidicrifleman - Fallen earth Starting at 6
00:26 Druidic_Rifleman Long video 1 hour live stream
00:27 lwq1996 damn i need a minecraft beta
00:28 GuardianZozo minecraft is now out of beta
00:28 GuardianZozo or so they claim lol
00:29 lwq1996 i need a paid version
00:29 GuardianZozo i recommend it
00:30 tehdark45 lwq1996, you can torrent beta that works online
00:30 lwq1996 i dont have the credit right now...or cash to buy one
00:30 GuardianZozo wow didnt realize how easy it is to set up a live stream
00:30 lwq1996 tehdar45, i hope you know this chanel is loged
00:31 tehdark45 yeah
00:31 Sgt_Lemming .seen yNos
00:31 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I last saw ynos 29.42 hours ago at 2011-11-18 19:06:03 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:31:15 UTC
00:31 lwq1996 and we dont talk about illegal things
00:31 lwq1996 we are not that type of hacker channel
00:31 GuardianZozo tehdark45, not to mention 99% of servers out there use minecraft login servers instead of no protection
00:32 Sgt_Lemming bullcrap lwq1996, illefal stuff gets discussed in here frequently
00:32 tehdark45 i wasnt say you should i was just saying it can be done
00:32 GuardianZozo mostly when seroster is in here lol *kidding*
00:32 lwq1996 stg_lemming we talk about it but hes sugesting me that i should do it
00:32 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, i love illefal stuff
00:32 tehdark45 :P
00:33 Sgt_Lemming that depends how you take his statement lwq1996
00:33 Sgt_Lemming he said "you *can*" not "you *should*"
00:33 Druidic_Rifleman See i thinke we need A set of wireless camera glasses So we can have the Boden view live stream cam
00:33 Sgt_Lemming there is a pretty big difference there
00:34 Sgt_Lemming you sound rather drunk Druidic_Rifleman :-P
00:34 * Cprossu bets one could get motion sickness watching those @ Druidic_Rifleman
00:34 lwq1996 lol
00:34 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
00:34 Druidic_Rifleman when i filmed it
00:34 tehdark45 And piracy is technically not even illigal anyway. Its just mad out to be
00:34 Cprossu holy crap paul got a haircut
00:35 tehdark45 made*
00:35 Sgt_Lemming actually tehdark that depends a lot on what you are doing
00:35 Sgt_Lemming selling copied dvd's is illegal
00:35 Sgt_Lemming as is using software you haven't purchased
00:36 tehdark45 Anyone know how SOPAs going?
00:36 Sgt_Lemming copying DVD's for your own use, i.e. backups, is technically not, but the DMCA makes removing the copy protection in order to copy them illegal
00:36 tehdark45 which is ass backwards
00:36 lwq1996 lol
00:36 tehdark45 Im glad DRM died
00:36 Sgt_Lemming err
00:36 Sgt_Lemming DRM is far from dead
00:36 Sgt_Lemming far FAR from dead
00:37 lwq1996 damn you guys i cant eat my bbq chicken and type at the same time :P
00:37 Cprossu just falling out of favor (which is a good thing)
00:37 Sgt_Lemming yes apple removed it from iTunes music, and amazon have removed it as well afaik
00:37 Sgt_Lemming but it's still in place on games and movies
00:37 Sgt_Lemming movies is the one that really shits me
00:37 masterofmonks http://io9.com/5861171/and-now-three-minutes-of-flamboyant-cuttlefishes-resembling-acid-trips
00:37 BotSteve Title: And now, three minutes of Flamboyant Cuttlefishes resembling acid trips
00:37 tehdark45 Well its obv not very good
00:38 masterofmonks Realization. cuddlefish are relatively low resolution.
00:38 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: so is this crappy webstream of hockey that i'm watching
00:39 KB3NZQ joined #thegeekgroup
00:39 dbshortwave joined #thegeekgroup
00:40 dbshortwave .
00:41 tehdark45 ..
00:41 tonsofpcs . -
00:42 tehdark45 .... . .-.. .-.. ---
00:42 tonsofpcs . - / - .... . -. ?
00:42 tonsofpcs hi, tehdark45
00:42 masterofmonks :ham?
00:42 * tonsofpcs is not an amateur radio operator
00:43 masterofmonks Why not?
00:43 * tonsofpcs gets paid for that ... .... .. - :)
00:43 tonsofpcs also, never had a good opportunity to test
00:43 KB3NZQ is there any one  at the lab now who is on irc
00:44 masterofmonks Takes ~20 minutes
00:44 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: right, but you need three VECs ...
00:44 masterofmonks Living where you do, there should be a test most weekends.
00:44 tonsofpcs ha!
00:44 masterofmonks Zipcode?
00:45 KB3NZQ masterofmonks tonsofpcs  lives in NY
00:45 tonsofpcs when I lived 10 miles from NYC, there was one at 0500 on alternate saturdays about 45 minutes away, one at 0300 every 3? tuesdays about 1.5 hours away, and one every other month at some other odd time
00:45 tonsofpcs 13760
00:46 tonsofpcs the closest decent timed one right now is the Orange County club's class-then-test thing, they do classless testing at other times
00:46 tonsofpcs and, as you know, i have no class
00:47 masterofmonks There is one on on the 28th in Ithaca.
00:48 KB3NZQ tgg|yNos are you here now?
00:48 tonsofpcs hmm... what time and where?
00:48 dbshortwave brb
00:48 bschaefer joined #thegeekgroup
00:48 masterofmonks http://www.arrl.org/exam_sessions/ithaca-ny-14850-9999-2
00:48 BotSteve Title: American Radio Relay League | Ham Radio Association and Resources
00:48 * masterofmonks shakes his fist at BotSteve
00:48 KB3NZQ tggmc1 is there any one there
00:49 tonsofpcs hmmmm
00:49 tonsofpcs 2X2L calling CQ, 2X2L calling CQ, is anyone there? is therre anybody? is there?
00:49 tehdark45 yNos is there
00:49 tonsofpcs bonus points for knowing the reference ^
00:49 Cprossu (RAM) Used: 0.99GB Free: 3.01GB Total: 4GB Used percent: 24%
00:50 bschaefer audio issues with the live stream?
00:50 masterofmonks War of the Worlds what?
00:50 tehdark45 Cprossu, you and your ram >.>
00:50 tehdark45 :P
00:50 tonsofpcs 7pm on a monday.... might be doable.  I think that tuesday i'm working late too
00:50 Cprossu I just had to close down firefox
00:50 Cprossu and steam
00:50 Cprossu they were hogging too much ram
00:50 tonsofpcs The Columbia Broadcasting System and the Mercury Theatre on the Air!
00:50 Cprossu damn badly coded things
00:50 tonsofpcs (and yes, masterofmonks, you get bonus points.)
00:51 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: Just do a brushup on your questions.
00:51 tehdark45 Cprossu, 74K too much?
00:51 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: a brush up? for what?
00:51 tehdark45 for steam
00:51 tonsofpcs the only questions I have trouble with are "where are the band boundaries" and I refuse to memorize those.
00:52 tonsofpcs Saturday 9am in norwich might be doable... hmm... where's the hckey team that weekend....
00:52 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: there is at least one other that you would miss unless you have checked it since then.
00:52 Cprossu tehdark45: it fills up to like 450mb after a week
00:52 Cprossu I don't care what it "SAYS" it takes in taskmgr
00:52 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: really?
00:52 tehdark45 ok
00:52 masterofmonks Yes, regarding Echolink.
00:53 Cprossu tehdark45: if you don't believe me take down your current memory usage, then close steam.
00:53 tonsofpcs there's an echolink question on tech and/or general?
00:53 masterofmonks Or more spefically using a repeater.
00:53 Cprossu then take note of what it becomes after all the processes close proper.
00:53 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=8wsLUC0uyUI#! <--- lol
00:53 BotSteve Title: Star Trek Crew watches Star Wars IV - YouTube
00:54 masterofmonks The example in question was regarding responsibiliy of transmission when using echolink to transmite off of a repeater.
00:54 masterofmonks transmit*
00:54 tonsofpcs also, I hate the stupid diagram symbols that they use, but I can figure them out.
00:55 masterofmonks There's a practice test you can take on the ARRL website.
00:56 tonsofpcs there is? the practice link i clicked just gave me a list of links
00:56 masterofmonks Damn you Firefox memory leak.
00:57 tehdark45 masterofmonks, Chrome is the answer
00:57 tehdark45 :P
00:57 masterofmonks tehdark45: No, there are plugins that I refuse to not have.
00:57 tehdark45 like? chrome problbly has them
00:57 masterofmonks It doesn't.
00:57 Sgt_Lemming eh, opera ftw
00:58 masterofmonks I just stopped using Chrome a few weeks back, after doing so for about six months.
00:59 masterofmonks Chrome is something that I want to like, but it doesn't really do it for me. Sort of like Wave.
00:59 Sgt_Lemming firefox annoys me enough I don't even have it installed on this machine
00:59 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
00:59 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 4.89 hours ago at 2011-11-19 20:06:31 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:59:44 UTC
01:00 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: Had to use opera on my last phone, that was enough.
01:00 Sgt_Lemming opera on phone != opera on desktop
01:00 masterofmonks Tried that too, it felt too much like the phone.
01:01 Sgt_Lemming wonderful thing about opera is that it's completely customisable, so it doesn't have too
01:01 lwq1996 opera is the only thing that will work on ce6 if you get it for phone
01:01 masterofmonks :technoevalgilism?
01:02 tehdark45 lwq1996, who uses CE anymore :P
01:02 Sgt_Lemming my phone still runs it
01:02 Sgt_Lemming mainly cause I am too poor to get a new phone atm
01:03 tehdark45 ah
01:03 lwq1996 a person that had it on a little netbook to carry around and didnt know what a ubuntu was yet :p
01:03 masterofmonks My optimus V was only $99, I love it.
01:03 lwq1996 i got a little netbook off of ebay that was 7in and could fit in your pocket
01:03 lwq1996 i loved that thing
01:04 Sgt_Lemming masterofmonks, I buy my phones outright because I hate being under contract, and the phone I want is about $600
01:04 lwq1996 i would use that durring school
01:04 masterofmonks lwq1996: eeepc 701?
01:04 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: That was an outright purchase.
01:04 lwq1996 it was a generic chinease laptop no brand name
01:04 masterofmonks Virgin mobile.
01:04 Sgt_Lemming they sure as crap aren't that cheap here masterofmonks
01:04 Sgt_Lemming prepaid?
01:05 masterofmonks Yes.
01:05 Sgt_Lemming ah yeah
01:05 tehdark45 lwq1996, well seeing as you were 8 when ubuntu came out, i dont blame you for not knowing :P
01:05 Sgt_Lemming see I already have a phone plan I am very happy
01:05 Sgt_Lemming also doesn't helpt that the phone I want isn't being offered by any carriers here
01:05 masterofmonks Me too, unlimited text an data, 300 minutes.
01:05 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, what phone you want?
01:05 Sgt_Lemming Motorola Droid 3
01:06 masterofmonks Which 300 minutes would probably last me a year or more. But they don't roll over.
01:06 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, whats wrong with SGS2?
01:06 Sgt_Lemming sgs2?
01:07 tehdark45 samsung galaxys s
01:07 tehdark45 2
01:07 Sgt_Lemming no qwerty keyboard
01:07 lwq1996 tehdark45 i knew about linux but not about the differnet types...and i loved my little netbook
01:08 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mbBbFH9fAg&amp;NR=1
01:08 BotSteve Title: Soundgarden - Black Hole Sun - YouTube
01:08 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, once you use a good OSK you wont use a hardware keyboard
01:08 Sgt_Lemming tehdark45, I have used many onscreen keyboards
01:08 masterofmonks Anyone else feel like that was directed by Tim Burton? (It wasn't)
01:08 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: what is passing score these days? 75?
01:08 Sgt_Lemming I like having tactile feedback
01:08 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: I couldn't tell you.
01:08 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, vibrate on key press
01:08 Sgt_Lemming is not the same
01:08 Sgt_Lemming far from it
01:09 Sgt_Lemming also you cannot touch type on an OSK
01:09 tonsofpcs and what happens if you fail the tech but pass the general or extra? :)
01:09 masterofmonks You don't.
01:09 masterofmonks You have to pass the tech before you can take the general.
01:09 tonsofpcs aw
01:09 masterofmonks You can do that in the same day however.
01:09 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: worst part: apple a number  of years ago pattented a technology to provide for tactile feedback with touchscreens
01:10 tonsofpcs had some really cool tech demos too.
01:10 tehdark45 How do they know whos operating with and without a license anyway?
01:10 Sgt_Lemming tehdark45, unlike most people I've been using smartphones since probably 2002. I've come to like what I like for some very specific reasons
01:11 tehdark45 Ah
01:11 Sgt_Lemming other thing is I hate losing screen realestate to a keyboard, especially when I'm using IRC
01:12 masterofmonks Hmm.
01:12 tehdark45 you were using smartphones before smartphone was a word
01:12 Katemonster technohipster?
01:12 masterofmonks Anyone know what food cans are coated with to prevent rust?
01:12 Katemonster magic.
01:12 tonsofpcs hmmm, they've made these tests harder since I last tried
01:12 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: paper? cardboard?...
01:13 Sgt_Lemming mobile phone screens aren't exactly huge, so sacrificing 1/3 to 1/2 of the screen to text input is just retarded, and the only downside to a physical keyboard is slightly thicker and heavier phones
01:13 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: the coating on the sterior of the steel.'
01:13 tehdark45 masterofmonks, An anti oxidiser
01:13 tehdark45 :P
01:13 Sgt_Lemming which in reality is a non-issue for anyone who isn't wearing skintight jeans
01:13 SparkyProjects tin
01:13 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: It is tin, and not zinc?
01:13 Sgt_Lemming hence why they are often referred to as tins :-P
01:14 Katemonster i don't think it's tin.  tin does bad things at low temperatures.
01:14 tehdark45 If you wear skin tight jeans you arn't in this room
01:14 SparkyProjects I'm sure i watched a 'how it's made' vid and they said tin
01:14 tehdark45 lol
01:14 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: Refered to as "tins" because they used to be tin.
01:14 masterofmonks http://lifehacker.com/5861130/build-a-camping-rocket-stove-from-leftover-food-cans
01:14 Sgt_Lemming pretty sure it's still tin
01:14 BotSteve Title: Build a Camping Rocket Stove from Leftover Food Cans
01:14 Katemonster tehdark45: that's hardly fair.
01:15 SparkyProjects Sgt_Lemming: i believe early cans (after the plain steel ones) were made of tin
01:15 tehdark45 Katemonster, they are impractical and we are pratical people
01:15 masterofmonks This is why I was curious, because were it zinc coated there would be... issues.
01:16 Katemonster if you say so
01:16 Sgt_Lemming also masterofmonks, that clip looks more like terry gilliam than tim burton to me
01:16 tehdark45 do you?
01:17 Katemonster rarely.
01:17 Sgt_Lemming I dislike tight clothing
01:17 tehdark45 Ok good i thought i offened you or something
01:17 Sgt_Lemming I'd much rather be comfortable than fashionable
01:18 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, who wouldnt?
01:19 Sgt_Lemming hipsters
01:19 lwq1996 OMG KIDWELLS HEAD
01:19 Katemonster ha
01:19 Katemonster skintight clothes can't be comfortable?
01:19 lwq1996 NO HES BALD AGAIN
01:20 tehdark45 lwq1996, dont have a hernia
01:20 tehdark45 :P
01:20 Katemonster i cite yoga pants.
01:20 SparkyProjects masterofmonks: "Tin" cans are made of tinplate (tin-coated steel). from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_can
01:20 SparkyProjects Though other coating may be used for corrosive contents (fruit etc)
01:20 BotSteve Title: Tin can - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:21 masterofmonks Thanks SparkyProjects
01:21 SparkyProjects :)
01:21 tehdark45 tin will make you blue
01:21 tehdark45 no wait thats silver
01:21 lwq1996 if you ingest it tehdark45
01:21 tehdark45 yeah
01:22 SparkyProjects masterofmonks: Cornwall in the UK was a big tin mining area,
01:23 tehdark45 on http://thegeekgroup.org/live-video/ I get the link to fr.justin.tv . Why is that?
01:23 BotSteve Title: Live Video | The Geek Group
01:24 lwq1996 batsteves french...didnt you know that
01:25 tehdark45 So is it like that for everyone?
01:25 lwq1996 yes...just look up and there should be something to select a lanuage
01:26 wannabe1987 .
01:26 tehdark45 ..
01:26 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdxkVQy7QLM
01:26 BotSteve Title: Pachelbel Rant - YouTube
01:27 wannabe1987 lwq1996: i'm back!
01:27 tonsofpcs that's old
01:27 lwq1996 WHERE DID YOU GO YOUNG LADY :p
01:27 tonsofpcs :)
01:27 SparkyProjects ^ That's epic, i like Pachelbel
01:27 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: I know
01:27 tonsofpcs pachebel pachebel....
01:27 sndwrx welp.
01:28 wannabe1987 my aunts house. she fed me yummy food and uncle ben gave me jerkyt ats *awesome*
01:28 wannabe1987 and i'm going to the butchershop tomorrow and getting more food :D
01:28 lwq1996 LOL
01:28 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
01:28 sndwrx hey wannabe1987
01:28 sndwrx How ya doin?  :)
01:29 wannabe1987 i have some of uncle ben's special rub jerky...its called hillbilly pepper
01:29 wannabe1987 and its GOOD
01:29 lwq1996 lol
01:29 tehdark45 Biltong is way better
01:29 masterofmonks ^
01:29 wannabe1987 how do you know
01:30 wannabe1987 you've never had his hillbilly pepper
01:30 wannabe1987 troll!
01:30 wannabe1987 .seen toastdude
01:30 Cprossu when I can get it, Buffalo jerky is nice =P
01:30 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw toastdude 3.61 hours ago at 2011-11-19 21:53:50 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:30:14 UTC
01:30 tehdark45 cuse freeze dried < slow air dried
01:30 wannabe1987 he also makes buffalo wing brats
01:30 wannabe1987 with wing sauce in them, i guess
01:30 tehdark45 .w biltong
01:30 BotSteve "Biltong is a kind of cured meat that originated in South Africa." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biltong
01:31 sndwrx wannabe1987: Do you know how your uncle makes his jerky?
01:31 wannabe1987 um...
01:31 tehdark45 sndwrx, that sounds diturbing O_o
01:31 wannabe1987 only if you make it...
01:31 tehdark45 yeah lol
01:31 wannabe1987 http://www.bensbutchershop.com/goodstuff/jerky/  it doesn't say how....
01:31 BotSteve Title: Jerky
01:32 sndwrx Cool.
01:33 sndwrx I was just curious if tehdark45 was assuming that his jerky is made by freeze drying.  :P
01:33 wannabe1987 i don't think they freeze it....
01:33 wannabe1987 he was talking about a smoke house today but i've never been there until tomorrow (...)
01:33 astro73|alice that was tasty
01:34 sndwrx Anyone know of any current Minecraft promotions?
01:34 * wannabe1987 mouth is on fire that was alot of pepper!
01:34 sndwrx I know a while ago they had b1g1.
01:34 wannabe1987 a lot*
01:35 wannabe1987 .g hyperbole and a half alot
01:35 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com/2010/04/alot-is-better-than-you-at-everything.html
01:35 wannabe1987 fav post ever
01:35 sndwrx That's the one with the awesome furry brown monster, right?
01:35 wannabe1987 yes...
01:36 * sndwrx nods.
01:36 SparkyProjects As far as i can tell, Jerky = Biltong, there are several different names, just depends what part of the world you're from.
01:36 SparkyProjects Though i guess that some will use freeze drying to speed things up
01:36 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerky
01:36 BotSteve Title: Jerky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:36 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dried_meat
01:36 BotSteve Title: Dried meat - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:36 sndwrx SparkyProjects: Right.
01:37 mtearle http://tcengineering.wordpress.com/2011/11/13/hat-coil/
01:37 BotSteve Title: Hat Coil « TC-Engineering
01:37 SparkyProjects My friend was going to do Biltong, he was going to use an upturned mesh waste paper basket (to keep the flies off) and a lightbulb for slow heat
01:37 sndwrx Did someone link that video earlier?
01:37 sndwrx I just watched it today, don't know how I found it.
01:37 wannabe1987 that was an awesome vid
01:38 tehdark45 theres another kind
01:38 tehdark45 Droewors
01:38 sndwrx I saw one with MOrtal Kombat and the Harry Potter theme.
01:39 tehdark45 actually Droëwors
01:40 wannabe1987 sndwrx thats the one i saw
01:40 * sndwrx nods.
01:48 * wannabe1987 has to weed some things out of facebook, cannot keep up
01:48 Cprossu so it looks like they got a ton done on thumper
01:50 Cprossu any video lag on the stream right now is caused by the fact I think stuff is getting uploaded
01:50 Sgt_Lemming thumper or stomper?
01:50 Cprossu stomper. my bad
01:50 Cprossu rofl
01:50 Cprossu as joe fixed thumper
01:51 Cprossu tggmc1 anyone up there?
01:54 Isopropyl|Media uggh back from work
01:55 Cprossu woo.
02:00 Isopropyl|Media still dealing with a high pulse too. Maybe its the weather, maybe its in my head, maybe something is wrong. I dunno and its driving me nuts.
02:00 Isopropyl|Media though its been a week since my symptoms started
02:01 Isopropyl|Media and for the most part they've recovered
02:02 wannabe1987 Isopropyl|Media: define "high pulse"
02:03 Isopropyl|Media 85 for me is a high pulse
02:03 wannabe1987 resting?
02:03 Isopropyl|Media yes
02:03 wannabe1987 whats it normally at resting?
02:03 Isopropyl|Media 60-70
02:04 wannabe1987 same.  yeah, i'd go see someone, but yeah, no health ins.
02:04 wannabe1987 do you have $20?
02:04 Isopropyl|Media i do
02:04 wannabe1987 you could call health intervention services on divison, see if they're taking patients....
02:04 wannabe1987 i have an apt there on monday
02:04 wannabe1987 ah shit...i need to figure out how to pay for it...
02:05 sndwrx What about Mary Free Bed, or whatever?
02:05 wannabe1987 mary free bed is for rehab only
02:05 sndwrx Or um..  There's a relatively new free clinic that GiveCamp just did work for.
02:05 Isopropyl|Media it'll be fine, no matter what it costs me in the end i'm gonna see my family doctor soon
02:05 sndwrx ah okay.
02:05 wannabe1987 free clinic?  interesting
02:06 sndwrx Yeah, hang on I'll see if I can find it.
02:06 Isopropyl|Media one of the churches inmy town has a free clinic but the services are very limited
02:06 wannabe1987 i'm not leaving my clinic...my mom and the dr go way back :P
02:07 Isopropyl|Media basically a checkup and prescription if you need it
02:07 Isopropyl|Media yea my family doc said she'd help work things out
02:07 lwq1996 my gf slamed her finger in a window and now its broken....damn it
02:07 wannabe1987 ow
02:08 wannabe1987 you tell her to be careful!
02:08 Isopropyl|Media just now? or earlier?
02:08 lwq1996 she broke it at the knuckle
02:08 lwq1996 yesterday
02:08 sndwrx I can't find it, the GRgivecamp site really needs some help.
02:08 lwq1996 im just finding this out now
02:08 sndwrx I want to say the clinic is called Caroline's or something.
02:08 Isopropyl|Media wow
02:08 sndwrx sorry to hear that lwq1996
02:08 lwq1996 lol
02:08 lwq1996 tis ok
02:08 Isopropyl|Media I don't live in GR so a trip to the clinic there would still be costly
02:09 Isopropyl|Media 2hrs in gas
02:09 NeWtoz .in 10 minutes RESCUE YOUR FOOD
02:09 sndwrx Catherine's Health Center
02:09 BotSteve NeWtoz: Okay, will remind at 02:19Z
02:09 sndwrx Where do you live Isopropyl|Media ?
02:09 Isopropyl|Media Owosso
02:09 wannabe1987 o i though tyou were in gr
02:09 Isopropyl|Media straight east of GR
02:09 wannabe1987 MY BAD
02:09 sndwrx Ah.
02:12 Cprossu hrmmmm
02:12 Cprossu what to do
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02:15 Isopropyl|Media lol Jeff Foxworthy - If you measure distance in hours, you may live in Michigan.
02:16 Psi anyone know if china post is handling the xmas load, want to order some stuff
02:16 wannabe1987 OMG ITS RAINING
02:17 wannabe1987 .tfw 49428
02:17 BotSteve 51°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Jenison, MI!  'I've seen better days'
02:17 wannabe1987 .tfw 48850
02:17 BotSteve 46°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT AND WET IN Lakeview, MI!  'I've seen better days'
02:17 wannabe1987 not bad
02:17 Isopropyl|Media If driving is better in the winter because the potholes are filled with snow, you may live in Michigan.
02:18 Isopropyl|Media .weather
02:18 BotSteve Try .weather London, for example?
02:18 Isopropyl|Media .weather Lansing
02:18 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 51.8℉ (11℃), 29.78in (1005mb), Moderate breeze 15kt (↑) - KLAN 02:06Z
02:18 Isopropyl|Media i don't think theres an owosso weather cast
02:19 Isopropyl|Media lemme check
02:19 Isopropyl|Media .weather Owosso
02:19 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 51.8℉ (11℃), 29.78in (1005mb), Moderate breeze 15kt (↑) - KLAN 02:06Z
02:19 Isopropyl|Media yea lansing
02:19 BotSteve NeWtoz: RESCUE YOUR FOOD
02:20 Cprossu woo
02:20 Isopropyl|Media omg lol If someone in a Home Depot store offers you assistance and they don't even work there, you may live in Michigan.
02:20 Isopropyl|Media xD
02:22 Cprossu If you see a pile of 'pop' bottles and know you can get enough back for a 12 pack, you may live in Michigan.
02:24 NeWtoz "'pop'"
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02:26 tehdark45 .weather surrey
02:26 BotSteve CYPK: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
02:26 NeWtoz and I love the .10 deposit
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02:31 Cprossu .weather 85021
02:31 BotSteve Cloudy, 69.8℉ (21℃), 29.84in (1007mb), Light air 3kt (↑) - KPHX 01:51Z
02:31 Cprossu .hrmmm
02:32 Isopropyl|Media .weather Helsinki
02:32 BotSteve Clear ☼, -5℃, 1021mb, Freezing Mist, Calm 0kt (↑) - EFHF, 02:20Z
02:32 Isopropyl|Media whoo
02:32 Isopropyl|Media Go motherland
02:32 * wannabe1987 earned 2.50 today from someone elses's pop bottles
02:32 wannabe1987 o.O a finn?!
02:32 wannabe1987 here?!
02:32 wannabe1987 o.O
02:33 Isopropyl|Media Finnish american
02:33 wannabe1987 nice
02:33 Isopropyl|Media 50% fathers side
02:33 wannabe1987 i have a friend in svalbard who is from finland
02:33 Isopropyl|Media Trying to learn the language, so hard...
02:33 wannabe1987 he advises against it :P
02:34 Toastdude Hi
02:34 Isopropyl|Media But I'm not gonna become one of those Finno-Swedes
02:34 wannabe1987 finnoswede?
02:34 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude
02:34 Isopropyl|Media swedish speaking finn
02:34 wannabe1987 you went away :(
02:34 wannabe1987 so did i; but still
02:34 wannabe1987 oooo
02:35 Isopropyl|Media that and if i learn the language I can help my dad read our geneology books we have
02:35 dbshortwave o.o
02:35 wannabe1987 hi db
02:35 Cprossu hrmmm I wonder where I put that old motherboard tray
02:35 dbshortwave hiya
02:35 dbshortwave how goes it wannabe?
02:36 astro73|alice hello
02:36 wannabe1987 it goes.  mom and dad and the grandparents will pay 60days rent for me somewhere, so i need a job so i can pay rent
02:36 wannabe1987 I"LL HAVE MY OWN KITCHEN (with others, but still!)
02:36 dbshortwave good deal
02:36 wannabe1987 mhm
02:36 sndwrx Ready to move in somewhere wannabe1987 ?
02:36 wannabe1987 but monday night i'm moving in with grandma and grandpa
02:36 wannabe1987 sndwrx what?
02:37 sndwrx Oh I was just curious where you're moving to.
02:37 wannabe1987 somewhere near allendale/byron center/jenison/hudsy/grandville/wyoming
02:37 sndwrx Last I heard, Jenison was the plan... Now you're talking about potentially renting somewhere, etc.
02:37 wannabe1987 first i go to grandma's in hudsonville.
02:38 wannabe1987 then 10 day s later i move somewhere else
02:38 sndwrx cool
02:38 wannabe1987 don't worry, i confused too
02:38 sndwrx Any leads for work yet?
02:38 wannabe1987 craigslists hea section :P (healthcare)
02:38 sndwrx I mean, does anything look promising so far?
02:38 wannabe1987 not yet
02:38 * sndwrx nods.
02:39 wannabe1987 something in iona :P
02:39 sndwrx wheee
02:39 wannabe1987 driving jen -> ionia in SNOW would SUCK
02:39 wannabe1987 even w/ the highway
02:39 sndwrx The goal is upward vertical movement, not downward or horizontal.  :P
02:39 sndwrx Well especially on 96.
02:39 wannabe1987 o and in winter i tend to stay off 131, thankfully that is a n/s road
02:39 wannabe1987 yes
02:39 wannabe1987 ik
02:40 sndwrx 96 is just rough through there during the winter.
02:40 sndwrx n/s?
02:40 sndwrx Oh, north/south.
02:40 wannabe1987 norht south
02:40 wannabe1987 i'm busy deleting ppl on fb :D
02:40 wannabe1987 weeeeee
02:40 sndwrx I was scratching my head . o O ( no salt? )
02:40 sndwrx ha
02:40 wannabe1987 well, MI *is* poor
02:40 wannabe1987 does table salt work ?
02:40 wannabe1987 :p
02:41 * wannabe1987 tends to crash cars in the winter....lets *not* crash THIS winter....
02:41 wannabe1987 break my every other year dealie
02:41 sndwrx I know you've told me but
02:41 sndwrx I forgot, what kind of car?
02:41 Cprossu it would be funny to have a winter demolition derby on glare ice.
02:41 wannabe1987 4 door ford fwd
02:41 sndwrx Oh Escort
02:41 sndwrx That's right.
02:41 sndwrx What year?
02:42 wannabe1987 97
02:42 * sndwrx nods.
02:42 sndwrx You know, older Escorts were available as 4WD 8-cyl in Europe.
02:43 wannabe1987 o.o
02:43 wannabe1987 i got mine from grandpa
02:43 sndwrx Called the Cosworth
02:43 wannabe1987 my aunt was suprised to see it still running now
02:43 sndwrx Seems like Merkur Scorpio are glorified Escorts, too.
02:43 sndwrx Turbo I think.
02:43 sndwrx I don't remember much about either of them anymore.
02:43 wannabe1987 i'd kill myself w/ a turbo :P
02:43 wannabe1987 lwq1996: i unfrended britt!
02:44 sndwrx Are you a bad driver, wannabe1987 ?
02:44 wannabe1987 why is she married to abi?
02:44 wannabe1987 no, i've just never driven anything powerful
02:44 sndwrx ah.
02:44 wannabe1987 the most powerful thing i've driven is my parents v8 full size chevy van
02:44 wannabe1987 no fun can be had
02:44 sndwrx Well, turbo can be fun but doesn't necessarily equal "powerful" haha.
02:45 wannabe1987 ik
02:45 sndwrx Oh sure those can be fun.
02:45 sndwrx I used to install compass/thermometer mirrors in models that weren't equipped with them from the factory.
02:45 sndwrx To calibrate the compass you drive in circles and figure eights.
02:45 wannabe1987 true dad did do reverse donuts
02:46 sndwrx Ah, that too.  Reverse brodies are kinda fun.
02:46 wannabe1987 brodie?
02:46 sndwrx Most fun in the snow...  Hammer it in reverse, crank the wheel one direction and spike the brakes.
02:46 wannabe1987 spike
02:46 wannabe1987 i dislike doing DONUTS
02:47 wannabe1987 or swerving
02:47 wannabe1987 someone eneds to teach me how to control cars in snow
02:47 wannabe1987 srsly
02:47 wannabe1987 i keep asking
02:47 wannabe1987 but nope
02:47 sndwrx Ah, see... I used to rally race so I like pushing cars hard, sometimes.
02:47 wannabe1987 no takers
02:47 * Isopropyl|Media emails the AlphaGeek
02:48 Cprossu good luck with that one
02:48 wannabe1987 why would you do that, iso?
02:48 Toastdude Wow, I totally misread that...  thought it was "I dislike having DONUTS  or swearing"
02:48 Toastdude Lol
02:48 Isopropyl|Media Bandsaw information
02:48 sndwrx haha
02:48 Isopropyl|Media swearing and donuts?
02:48 sndwrx Toastdude: Apparently she dislikes bad jokes, too.
02:48 Toastdude Lol
02:49 SparkyProjects wannabe1987: the point where people go wrong in the snow when they lose control is to stomp on the brakes, you want to have your front wheels rotating in a slide situation, and turn towards the slide.
02:49 Toastdude "Do not want!"
02:49 SparkyProjects Drive slower, keep your distance, and think ahead
02:49 Isopropyl|Media Anyone here interested in a 1997 Chevy Suburban LS Diesel?
02:49 sndwrx She's not here right now, SparkyProjects :)
02:50 sndwrx Isopropyl|Media: How much?
02:50 SparkyProjects oh yeah
02:50 Isopropyl|Media 5000 negotiable
02:50 sndwrx I like the Ford diesels more, but.
02:50 Isopropyl|Media lemme get you my craiglist on it
02:50 Isopropyl|Media http://flint.craigslist.org/cto/2684295497.html
02:50 sndwrx Not to begin a whole Chevrolet versus Ford argument or anything.
02:50 BotSteve Title: 1997 Chevrolet Suburban LS - Diesel
02:51 Isopropyl|Media I prefer Fords myself
02:51 sndwrx Are you closer to Flint than Lansing?
02:51 Isopropyl|Media yes
02:51 Isopropyl|Media only by like 15-20 minutes
02:51 sndwrx aha
02:51 sndwrx Good ol' Flint.
02:52 sndwrx Clio is over near there, isn't it?
02:52 Isopropyl|Media hmm, i think?
02:52 sndwrx East or SE of Flint, I forget.
02:52 Isopropyl|Media no idea lemme map
02:52 sndwrx I was sweet on a girl in Clio a very, very long time ago.
02:52 sndwrx haha.
02:53 Isopropyl|Media lol
02:54 Isopropyl|Media clios 16 some miles north of flint
02:54 sndwrx Oh, north.
02:55 Isopropyl|Media 35 miles northeast of my town
02:56 sndwrx got it.
02:56 NeWtoz ah Suburban, nice room, bad gas
02:56 NeWtoz friend had one
02:56 NeWtoz s/had/has
02:57 Isopropyl|Media 17-20 mpg is what i recall my father saying
02:58 Isopropyl|Media routine engine maintenence so it's in good condition
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02:58 NeWtoz cool people drive Jimmys
02:58 Isopropyl|Media lol
02:58 wannabe1987 all these friends i fee l obligated to keep....
02:58 wannabe1987 my cousin has a blazer....whats that mean ? :P
02:58 * lwq1996 is watching how its made
02:59 wannabe1987 LOVE that show
02:59 lwq1996 they showed how they make pole transformers
02:59 Isopropyl|Media Kepp your friends, despite their shortcomings. I've lost a lot of friends, and it really does hurt.
02:59 Isopropyl|Media Keep*
02:59 wannabe1987 i'm not getting rid of them b/c of shortcomings
03:00 Isopropyl|Media lack of communication?
03:00 sndwrx wb wannabe1987
03:00 NeWtoz unless they break all your lego structures
03:00 Isopropyl|Media lol newtoz
03:00 wannabe1987 i'm getting rid of them cuz i don't CARE what their doing OR i don't have TIME to keep up with them....i'm only supposed to be on facebook for 1/2 hour a day.....and i cna' tkeip up with 600 people in that amount of time
03:01 NeWtoz I unfriended him for a while
03:01 wannabe1987 i would!
03:01 wannabe1987 lego is work
03:01 Isopropyl|Media ah I just pay attention to those who i talk to frequently. Everybody else has to get a hold of me
03:01 wannabe1987 lol
03:01 wannabe1987 that means even *more* work making *more* lists....
03:01 Isopropyl|Media I miss legos
03:01 wannabe1987 i don't have that kind of time!
03:01 Isopropyl|Media I have a few, but I use to have TONS
03:02 wannabe1987 and right now facebook/computer is being a douche and not working
03:02 wannabe1987 i have mine overe there*point*
03:02 NeWtoz Mine got passed on to my nephew
03:02 SparkyProjects wannabe1987: the point where people go wrong in the snow when they lose control is to stomp on the brakes, you want to have your front wheels rotating in a slide situation, and turn towards the slide.
03:02 SparkyProjects Drive slower, keep your distance, and think ahead
03:02 wannabe1987 my siblings have most of mine
03:02 wannabe1987 yeah, SparkyProjects i put it in neutral and don't know what way to put the wheels
03:02 Isopropyl|Media I just started collecting again, and only the city set because the other sets suck
03:03 wannabe1987 i want to get bro a mini fig of some star wars guy for xmas, but first we have to play legos to figure out which he *does* have
03:03 NeWtoz wannabe1987, just install some seat ejectors
03:04 wannabe1987 lol
03:04 SparkyProjects Stay in gear (low gear is ok) and take your foot off the gas.
03:04 SparkyProjects If you slide to the left, turn the wheel left.
03:04 wannabe1987 see, you use directions, everyone else uses clockwise/counterclockwise.  them things get me confuzzled
03:04 NeWtoz unless that directs you into a tree
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03:05 NeWtoz or my lego set
03:05 wannabe1987 i've hit guardrails and totaled cars and there was no dent on the guard rail
03:05 wannabe1987 i'll watch out for your legos, but keep them off the highway!
03:05 wannabe1987 hi splint
03:05 splint Hey!
03:05 Isopropyl|Media start with light brake depressions and slowly increase break pressure
03:06 * wannabe1987 will listen to sparky cuz he drives a stick as well (i assume, cuz he's britishish)
03:06 SparkyProjects Well when you start to slide, you naturally lok towards what you might hit, turn the wheel the same way.
03:06 SparkyProjects And if possible, find a large area of ground during the winter and just drive round it.
03:06 Isopropyl|Media lol
03:06 Isopropyl|Media ye
03:06 SparkyProjects I've only ever driven stick
03:06 NeWtoz or just let go of the wheel, slide on a pair of cool sunglasses and crash hiply
03:06 wannabe1987 I CAN"T AFFORD A CRASH
03:06 SparkyProjects But there are a lot in the UK who drive auto
03:07 wannabe1987 crash = no car
03:07 wannabe1987 which is stupid
03:07 NeWtoz but you'd look so cool
03:07 Isopropyl|Media use snow to slow you down, find gentle snow pilse to skimm on
03:07 NeWtoz even more if you escape JUST before it blows up
03:07 Isopropyl|Media as long as is doesn't blow up near Newtoz legos
03:08 wannabe1987 ....
03:08 Isopropyl|Media piles*
03:08 NeWtoz well, naturally. It's practically a universal law
03:08 wannabe1987 you gonna buy me a new car, NeWtoz?
03:08 Isopropyl|Media lol
03:08 Isopropyl|Media ?
03:08 NeWtoz I could make you one out of legos!
03:08 Isopropyl|Media LOL
03:09 NeWtoz vroom vroom
03:09 NeWtoz that way, if you crash, you just need to put the pieces back together!
03:10 NeWtoz My logic makes you speechless
03:10 NeWtoz I get that
03:10 masterofmonks NeWtoz lives.
03:11 NeWtoz I hope so
03:11 NeWtoz I check routinely
03:11 Isopropyl|Media aw crap, the cd drive doesn't work on my compaq laptop anymore
03:11 Isopropyl|Media thay don't make this laptop anymore!
03:11 Isopropyl|Media noooooo
03:11 Isopropyl|Media they*
03:11 NeWtoz they also really don't make cd drives either
03:12 * Isopropyl|Media checks craigslist
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03:12 Isopropyl|Media .g craigslist compaq lte 5100 drive
03:12 BotSteve Isopropyl|Media: http://eugene.craigslist.org/sys/
03:13 Isopropyl|Media way to be specific botsteve
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03:13 Toastdude wannabe.
03:13 NeWtoz eugene eh?
03:13 Toastdude .....
03:14 Isopropyl|Media her internet faling?
03:14 NeWtoz oh, I didn't even know she left...
03:14 Isopropyl|Media read errors
03:14 NeWtoz I guess that is why she was speechless...
03:14 Isopropyl|Media yea
03:15 * Isopropyl|Media just remembered!
03:15 Isopropyl|Media I have to install cd drivers in a dos system first
03:15 Isopropyl|Media derp
03:15 * Isopropyl|Media gets boot disk
03:16 lwq1996 i just told my dog he was adopted and he ran away :(
03:16 Isopropyl|Media lol
03:16 sndwrx What are you working on that requires a CD, Isopropyl|Media ?
03:16 Isopropyl|Media installing 95 on an old laptop
03:16 Isopropyl|Media win95*
03:16 Isopropyl|Media i don't have the disks
03:16 lwq1996 95!!!!! wow
03:17 Isopropyl|Media yea
03:17 sndwrx haha why Win95?
03:17 Isopropyl|Media I have cd's, but no floppy os's
03:17 lwq1996 cant use damn small linux on it?
03:17 lwq1996 oh
03:17 sndwrx Well you could use Plop linux to USB boot.
03:17 NeWtoz he could use normal sized linux on it
03:17 sndwrx Then install it from a thumbdrive.
03:17 Isopropyl|Media I want the laptop to run 95 for dos games
03:17 sndwrx Oh.
03:17 lwq1996 oh
03:17 Isopropyl|Media simple and easy
03:17 sndwrx Then just install FreeDOS or something.
03:18 NeWtoz even linux isn't _that_ big
03:18 Isopropyl|Media eh freedos is okay but it's just not... dos
03:18 sndwrx Either way if you have a floppy drive and a USB thumb drive, you could probably install Win95 from the thumbdrive if you boot Plop linux from diskette.
03:18 Isopropyl|Media also this laptop has no usb
03:18 sndwrx oh.
03:18 sndwrx ha.
03:19 Isopropyl|Media :D
03:19 * Isopropyl|Media loves old tech
03:19 sndwrx PCMCIA USB adapter?
03:19 Isopropyl|Media sadly no
03:19 * sndwrx nods.
03:19 Isopropyl|Media still would need drivers of sorts
03:20 sndwrx The beauty of Plop linux.  It enables booting from a variety of devices even if the machine/bios doesn't support it.
03:21 Isopropyl|Media hmm i could pop the hdd out and plop it in another laptop and just to install 95 and then rob it of its fisrt boot and plop it back
03:21 sndwrx Sounds like a plan.
03:21 NeWtoz if not, you always have plan b.
03:22 Isopropyl|Media legos?
03:22 sndwrx Now I've kinda got a hankerin' for Castle Adventure and Scorched Earth.
03:22 NeWtoz probably would be more fun and better functionality
03:22 sndwrx Hell, Avoid the Noid, too.
03:23 sndwrx Does anyone remember the old screen saver of a guy stranded on an island?
03:23 NeWtoz the original Oregon Trail
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03:24 NeWtoz wannabe1987, I have a solution to your car problem!
03:25 exor674 NeWtoz: steal one?
03:25 NeWtoz make one out of legos, therefor, if you do crash, just pick up the pieces and rebuild it
03:26 NeWtoz you could tell everyone that you 'rebuild' your engine every few months
03:26 wannabe1987 lol
03:26 Isopropyl|Media lol
03:27 * Isopropyl|Media wonders why no enterprizing millionare spent some of his money to build a fully functioning scale lego car
03:28 Isopropyl|Media i would
03:29 wannabe1987 see, i have the lego set thats the "car" creations one....
03:29 Isopropyl|Media appears the drive already had DOS on it which means the older laptop can't use the slim drives
03:29 Isopropyl|Media lame
03:29 Isopropyl|Media now i have to dig for another drive
03:30 sndwrx Isopropyl|Media: It appears several full-scale lego cars have been made.
03:31 wannabe1987 didn't they do an expidition?
03:31 wannabe1987 of the ford variety
03:31 sndwrx Not working though, that I've found.
03:31 Isopropyl|Media aww
03:31 sndwrx Haven't seen the Expedition yet.
03:31 sndwrx http://www.bitrebels.com/geek/the-real-working-lego-car/
03:31 BotSteve Title: The REAL Working Lego Car | Bit Rebels
03:31 sndwrx Here's a lego car that traveled the country.
03:31 sndwrx Of course, they're just glued to the chassis.
03:31 Isopropyl|Media lame
03:32 sndwrx Glued to the body panels, rather.
03:32 wannabe1987 fail
03:33 astro73|mal oh man. This is hard.
03:33 Isopropyl|Media arrg!
03:33 Isopropyl|Media damn hdd won't access
03:33 dbshortwave off to bed i go
03:34 wannabe1987 aw
03:34 wannabe1987 astro73|mal what is?
03:35 sndwrx night dbshortwave|zz
03:35 sndwrx hey astro73|mal
03:35 sndwrx Isopropyl|Media: Why not?
03:35 Isopropyl|Media i/o error
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03:36 astro73|mal i'm working on the nick tracking code. Part of what I have to do is logic for when to query for updates
03:36 Isopropyl|Media but yet it works in the other laptop
03:36 Isopropyl|Media or may not now, dunno yet
03:36 * Isopropyl|Media see's if fdisk ca see it
03:37 wannabe1987 astro...i think i have enough loose change for swing tuesday :D
03:37 wannabe1987 i have like 320 pennies :D
03:37 wannabe1987 its 4 bucks
03:37 wannabe1987 i have a few quarters too
03:37 astro73|mal wannabe1987, cool. I might be able to go.
03:37 astro73|mal maybe.
03:37 wannabe1987 nice
03:37 astro73|mal but don't count on it
03:38 astro73|mal i'm on break, but i'm broke
03:38 wannabe1987 yeah.  pennies :P
03:39 wannabe1987 hi devast8a
03:39 devast8a hey
03:40 wannabe1987 how r you?
03:40 devast8a gooood.
03:40 devast8a You?
03:40 Isopropyl|Media that was almost a hasard
03:40 wannabe1987 i'll be better monday, but i'm good.  in slight pain, but nothing bad.  :D
03:40 Isopropyl|Media hazard*
03:41 Isopropyl|Media I went to pull a three plug outlet extention and the first part of the case came off leaving the still live metal bits exposed
03:42 wannabe1987 o.O
03:42 Isopropyl|Media its fixed now but... damn
03:42 * Isopropyl|Media reads label
03:42 Isopropyl|Media china made, okay
03:43 wannabe1987 can i unfriend someone who is dead?
03:43 Isopropyl|Media don't see why not
03:44 Isopropyl|Media unless you're expecting grave news
03:44 Isopropyl|Media sorry, that was poor
03:44 wannabe1987 he's in heaven...not in the grave
03:45 Isopropyl|Media odd, the laptop sees the drive and partition but won't boot it
03:46 * wannabe1987 gets to knit some more on monday :D
03:46 wannabe1987 happy happy joy joy!
03:46 Isopropyl|Media :D
03:46 wannabe1987 i ran out of yarn and my spre yarn is at moms house
03:46 sndwrx What are you knitting?
03:47 wannabe1987 buried under the stairs
03:47 wannabe1987 dice bag for cj
03:47 sndwrx cool.
03:47 wannabe1987 yep
03:47 wannabe1987 will mail it somewhere in greenville when done....but yeah.  :D
03:47 wannabe1987 i told him i would for christmas/birthday combo
03:47 Isopropyl|Media :D I've made dice bags before, outta leather.
03:47 wannabe1987 i just needed yarn!
03:47 Isopropyl|Media fun stuff
03:48 wannabe1987 intereting
03:48 astro73|mal I don't suppose anyone knows IRC really well?
03:48 Isopropyl|Media i do
03:48 Isopropyl|Media whats up
03:49 astro73|mal I'm trying to determine logic for when the bot should query nickserv for a user's registration
03:49 astro73|mal given that it receives no notification when it changes
03:50 Isopropyl|Media are you making a request as a user for the bot to look up?
03:50 astro73|mal the bot is supposed to be able to do it automatically
03:51 Isopropyl|Media hmm
03:51 Isopropyl|Media lemme think
03:52 Isopropyl|Media you're attempting to get the bot to talk to nickserv to see when a users registration info changes?
03:52 astro73|mal the only rule I have is that it checks ACC when a user joins, if they're recognized or logged in, query info. If not, try again in 60 seconds.
03:52 Isopropyl|Media that seems logical
03:53 Isopropyl|Media is it not working to expectations?
03:53 astro73|mal it is
03:53 sndwrx I may be off track here, but what about having the bot trigger when it sees nick changes too?
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03:53 astro73|mal but it won't do any of the initial load
03:53 Isopropyl|Media ah
03:53 astro73|mal sndwrx, nick changes don't actually change nickserv status
03:53 sndwrx Ah, right.
03:54 Isopropyl|Media just a service, not an entitiy
03:55 astro73|mal Isopropyl|Media, come again?
03:55 Isopropyl|Media as in it's a bot itself for the daemon
03:55 Isopropyl|Media not the daemon
03:56 astro73|mal ... BotSteve would be doing all this querying itself, yes
03:57 dr_jkl .
03:57 wannabe1987 http://sfbay.craigslist.org/flag/?flagCode=31&amp;smtpid=20111120032846NMB3wScT4RGE0vGq1skKVA  LOL
03:57 BotSteve Title: craigslist | Thanks for flagging.
03:59 wannabe1987 its a froggy
03:59 Isopropyl|Media by initail load do you mean users already present?
03:59 astro73|mal yeah
03:59 Isopropyl|Media ahh
04:00 astro73|mal my best guess would be to create a list of users to query and slowly work through it
04:01 wannabe1987 going from the LOTR soundtrack to POTC soundtrack is strange
04:01 sndwrx POTC?
04:01 lwq1996 .seen toastdude
04:01 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw toastdude 0.80 hours ago at 2011-11-20 03:13:40 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:01:53 UTC
04:01 Toastdude Hi Lee
04:02 lwq1996 how do you fly again on wom
04:02 lwq1996 havent played in a long time
04:02 Toastdude z
04:02 lwq1996 ok
04:02 Isopropyl|Media trying to figure out a way your bot can read the users in the channel and initate checks
04:02 Isopropyl|Media chanserv is limited
04:02 astro73|mal on join, you do get a list of users
04:02 astro73|mal you can listen to parts to prune it
04:02 Isopropyl|Media yes
04:03 Isopropyl|Media you do
04:03 Isopropyl|Media THATS RIGHT
04:03 Isopropyl|Media use /names #thegeekgroup
04:04 Isopropyl|Media generates a list you can prune
04:04 Isopropyl|Media forgot about that command
04:05 wannabe1987 ....
04:05 astro73|mal that's not an IRC protocol thing
04:06 Isopropyl|Media ah its mirc
04:07 astro73|mal i also have to write the in-memory store used to track nick<->account mappings
04:09 Isopropyl|Media hmm, i've never had to dig this deep in to irc
04:09 Isopropyl|Media what prog language you using?
04:09 astro73|mal Python
04:09 astro73|mal i can have it print out the stuff I need
04:10 lwq1996 toastdude whats your wom name
04:11 lwq1996 .seen toastdude
04:11 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw toastdude 0.15 hours ago at 2011-11-20 04:02:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:11:30 UTC
04:11 lwq1996 TOAST STOP FAPING
04:12 Toastdude ......
04:12 Toastdude Toastdude12
04:12 wannabe1987 TOAST
04:12 Toastdude WANNABE
04:12 lwq1996 lol
04:12 wannabe1987 OMG
04:12 wannabe1987 hi
04:13 Toastdude Hi!
04:13 lwq1996 i didnt put realm thats why
04:14 lwq1996 oh kelly btw...toast has a gf :P
04:14 wannabe1987 ok?
04:14 wannabe1987 i care why?
04:14 Toastdude Lol
04:14 lwq1996 i just want to make him embaraced
04:15 wannabe1987 embarassed?
04:15 lwq1996 yes
04:16 Toastdude Well you're kind of failing Lee
04:16 lwq1996 idk i'll still try
04:20 lwq1996 :P
04:20 wannabe1987 ....
04:20 wannabe1987 why would you want to embarass him?  noone embarrassed you......
04:21 lwq1996 lol...im meaner
04:27 lwq1996 DAMNIT...i can fly up but dont know how to fly down
04:27 lwq1996 toast help
04:27 Toastdude q and e
04:30 egrsteve|away anything new here?
04:31 * egrsteve|away returns to lurk mode
04:32 tehdark45 A wild message appears
04:33 tehdark45 In your room
04:33 * Isopropyl|Media has 5 days off whooo!
04:33 Isopropyl|Media no work!
04:33 wannabe1987 o.o
04:33 wannabe1987 b/c of thanksgiving?
04:33 Isopropyl|Media naw, just how i was scheduled
04:34 wannabe1987 o
04:39 BatSteve sup
04:40 Toastdude BatSteve!
04:40 BatSteve Hi toast
04:40 BatSteve !
04:43 wannabe1987 ats!
04:43 wannabe1987 bats!*
04:44 masterofmonks !!!!_.**Ж**._!!!!!
04:44 Toastdude ....
04:44 wannabe1987 you ok monks?
04:44 astro73|mal ohai BatSteve
04:45 * wannabe1987 thanks x boyfriend *again* for the iPod.....
04:46 wannabe1987 it still works after 5 years...if it died i'd cry
04:46 wannabe1987 and then go to the apple store
04:46 BatSteve hey there astro
04:46 wannabe1987 and see if they can fix it
04:47 astro73|mal BatSteve, good news. I started on the nick tracker. Bad news: It's even more complex than the last big item
04:47 Isopropyl|Media tell me about it :/
04:48 BatSteve Really?
04:48 BatSteve How so?
04:48 astro73|mal the algorithms required to do all the querying properly
04:49 astro73|mal and I haven't even tried timing the data out
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05:05 Druidic_Rifleman hello
05:05 Isopropyl|Media hey
05:10 astro73|mal ok, I think today's voice should go to the person who can figure out what all i'm doing in https://github.com/astronouth7303/tgg-BotSteve/blob/nicktracker/modules/nicktracker.py
05:10 BotSteve Title: modules/nicktracker.py at nicktracker from astronouth7303/tgg-BotSteve - GitHub
05:10 astro73|mal because I'm sure it needs waaaaaaaaaay more comments
05:13 BatSteve astro, I ask this with great politeness and tact, but, you have eaten and slept lately, right?  Because you keep plunking down these big chunks of code one after another.
05:13 BatSteve Just making sure you're not pulling a StarCraft 2 and starving to death in front of your monitor
05:13 astro73|mal yes, i eat and sleep regularly
05:14 wannabe1987 lol
05:14 astro73|mal in fact, I had a wonderful dinner at TGI Fridays with the grandparents and family
05:14 wannabe1987 i think the girl makes him :P
05:14 wannabe1987 YUM
05:14 wannabe1987 what'd you get?
05:14 astro73|mal jack danials ribs
05:14 astro73|mal actually, all that code is from since I got back
05:14 wannabe1987 they're food is SO GOOD
05:14 astro73|mal look at the times on the commits
05:15 astro73|mal all that's from the last 3 hours
05:15 astro73|mal oh god. I'm frightening.
05:16 wannabe1987 lol
05:16 wannabe1987 or bored
05:16 astro73|mal no. the frightening part is how complex of code i've written in 3 hours
05:17 astro73|mal with fairly few bugs
05:17 wannabe1987 o.O
05:18 wannabe1987 tomorrows project is packing all but freezable stuff in the car (i don't want stuff to explode)
05:18 wannabe1987 after going to the butcher shop and doing who knows what
05:18 wannabe1987 o yeah, getting free stuff
05:21 wannabe1987 yeah its gonna be 28 overnight sunday night....i don't want things to freeze :( that'd be messy and ugh
05:21 wannabe-zz night all!
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05:25 Druidic_Rifleman hey jess did you dr_jkl see those bracelets?
05:25 KawaiiJess Did I what?
05:25 KawaiiJess dr_jkl?
05:26 KawaiiJess Druidic_Rifleman, if you're talking about the transgender awareness bracelets, I was right there every step of their creation and I'm wearing one right now
05:26 Katemonster .log
05:26 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
05:26 KawaiiJess Druidic_Rifleman is a bot isn't he?
05:27 Druidic_Rifleman Did you show them to*
05:27 Katemonster no
05:27 Katemonster he's just an idiot.
05:27 Katemonster obtuse is a bot.
05:27 Katemonster speaking of...
05:28 Katemonster .seen obtuse
05:28 BotSteve Katemonster: I last saw obtuse 410.66 hours ago at 2011-11-03 02:48:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:28:01 UTC
05:28 Katemonster .seen obtuse_
05:28 BotSteve Katemonster: I last saw obtuse_ 2041.86 hours ago at 2011-08-27 03:36:41 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:28:05 UTC
05:28 Katemonster :/
05:28 KawaiiJess Awesome spam
05:28 KawaiiJess :P
05:28 KawaiiJess Poor Kate has to use third party logs. :P
05:28 KawaiiJess I've got every log file all the way back to October 2005
05:28 Katemonster oh bite me
05:29 Druidic_Rifleman I am just tired right now
05:29 KawaiiJess I used to have back to June 05, but I lost the logs
05:32 Druidic_Rifleman i see
05:33 Katemonster http://caspianseamonster.deviantart.com/gallery/33823781
05:33 BotSteve Title: Firearm Stuff by CaspianSeaMonster on deviantART
05:40 wannabe-zz Druidic_Rifleman, why you think dr_jkl wants to see the transgender bracelets?
05:41 Druidic_Rifleman Just she'd like it
05:41 wannabe-zz wait, KawaiiJess, define transgender....o.o
05:42 * Katemonster facepalm
05:42 astro73|mal .w transgender
05:42 BotSteve "Transgender (pronounced /trænzˈdʒɛndər/) is a general term applied to a variety of individuals, behaviors, and groups involving tendencies to vary from culturally conventional gender roles." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender
05:42 wannabe-zz people make things too complicated....i didn't think dr_jkl was transgender, just lesbian...but hey cool
05:42 wannabe-zz yeah, that doesn't help
05:43 Katemonster god dammit you're stupid, druid.
05:43 Toastdude NNight wannabe-zz
05:43 wannabe-zz lol
05:43 wannabe-zz you just figure that out *now* kate?  :P  sorry druid
05:43 masterofmonks wannabe-zz: Life in general is complicated, more so than you can ever imagine. People filter out things they can't make sense of. Those people with fewer filters sometimes are able to glimpse things and make sense of them.
05:44 Katemonster no, i knew, it just continues to amaze me
05:44 Sgt_Lemming astro73|alice allowing the bot to keep track of requests even if it's nick is changed for some reason?
05:44 wannabe-zz trust me i know life is complicated....i'm trying to uncomplicate mine....
05:44 KawaiiJess wannabe-zz, straight out of my girlfriends packet from the GLSEN (Gay Lesbian & Straight Education Network) "'Transgender,' often shortened to 'trans,' is a term used to describe people whose gender identity and/or expression does not conform to societal expectations of what it means to be female or male, meaning sex assigned at birth. Transgender is often interpreted as un umbrella term to include crossdressers, transsexuals,
05:44 KawaiiJess genderqueers, drag kings, and drag queens."
05:45 astro73|mal Sgt_Lemming, the point is to be more account-driven than nick-driven
05:45 astro73|mal Sgt_Lemming, and I'm using NickServ as my data source
05:45 Sgt_Lemming ah ok
05:45 Sgt_Lemming didn't spot the nickserv stuff in there, just had a quick look
05:46 astro73|mal but maintaining all that data, and when do we clear what, when do we query, etc
05:46 * Sgt_Lemming has a headache atm so is not upto deciphering code
05:46 wannabe-zz thanks jess :)
05:47 KawaiiJess Yup
05:47 wannabe-zz you know more than bot does via wiki :D
05:47 KawaiiJess Well I knew my girlfriend had a packet on her desk with a definition that was very thorough so I just transcribed it
05:47 wannabe-zz yep
05:48 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GLBTI#Variants "Another acronym that has begun to spread is QUILTBAG, from Queer/Questioning, Undecided, Intersex, Lesbian, Trans, Bisexual, Asexual, Gay."
05:48 BotSteve Title: LGBT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
05:48 wannabe-zz i really should sleep........
05:48 astro73|mal time to do some testing
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05:48 wannabe-zz night Toastdude
05:48 wannabe-zz hi astro73-bot
05:48 Toastdude Night Kelly
05:48 BatSteve what's "intersex"?
05:48 BatSteve .w intersex
05:48 BotSteve "Intersex, in humans and other animals, is the presence of intermediate or atypical combinations of physical features that usually distinguish female from male." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
05:48 wannabe-zz ?
05:49 wannabe-zz definitions like that confuse me
05:49 Sgt_Lemming hermaphroditism is sometimes considered an intersex condition
05:49 astro73|mal intersex means that physical characteristics don't point to a clear sex
05:49 * lwq1996 hugs wannabe good night
05:50 astro73|mal there's something like 8 different biological indicators of sex
05:50 * lwq1996 is ignored :(
05:50 wannabe-zz night lee
05:50 lwq1996 :)
05:50 Katemonster intersex = you were born with some serious physical birth deformities that leads to being not quite male /or/ female
05:50 wannabe-zz no
05:50 wannabe-zz never lee
05:51 BatSteve hurm
05:51 wannabe-zz ooooo ok
05:51 * lwq1996 hugs batsteve goodnight too
05:51 Sgt_Lemming Katemonster, they are not always that obvious
05:51 BatSteve I say this without any sort of offense intended, but the first thing I flashed to when I read that definition was "Ken dolls"
05:51 Katemonster not always, no
05:52 Katemonster ha
05:52 Katemonster no
05:52 Katemonster um
05:52 Sgt_Lemming mosaicism for instance can lead to a child being born with male genetalia, but later in life developing breasts, no adams apple and female hormones
05:52 BatSteve bye lwq
05:52 astro73|mal I would think that XXY would be far more common
05:52 astro73|mal "far" being relative
05:53 astro73|mal intersexed conditions in generally are very rare
05:53 Druidic_Rifleman interesting discussion caused by "this person would find X subject interesting"
05:54 astro73|mal i'm also killing time while I wait for my bot to process all the data
05:54 lwq1996 god i cant sleep
05:55 Druidic_Rifleman HAHA
05:57 * lwq1996 pulls ak-47
05:57 lwq1996 WHAT YOU SAY BITCH
05:57 lwq1996 jk
05:58 lwq1996 so bored and tired but cant sleep
05:58 astro73|mal is it really 1am already?
05:59 lwq1996 yes
05:59 Sgt_Lemming not here it isn't
05:59 astro73|mal hmm. ok
05:59 masterofmonks lwq1996: insomnia?
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06:00 lwq1996 eh, i think i have a little bit, in the summer i didnt get any sleep
06:00 astro73|mal aaaand I think that hideously complex blob of code works!
06:00 BatSteve woot!
06:01 astro73|mal except that it's doing extra info queries
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06:03 Katemonster here lwq1996, have a photo.  http://fav.me/d4govhb
06:03 BotSteve Title: Cinderella Gun - 6 of 6 by ~CaspianSeaMonster on deviantART
06:05 lwq1996 hmmm.. nice revolver
06:05 masterofmonks Katemonster: You shoudl get a kick out of this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC4_m3-yHi0
06:05 BotSteve Title: Gun Gripes Episode 4: The Kitchen Gunsmith - YouTube
06:07 Katemonster heh
06:07 Katemonster yeah, i've seen a lot of stupid shit like that
06:07 astro73|mal that's weird. When lwq1996 or BatSteve say something, it requeries for info
06:08 lwq1996 what?
06:08 masterofmonks Katemonster: Wait until you se the .22.
06:08 masterofmonks see*
06:09 Katemonster ha!
06:11 Katemonster yeah.... there's a $100 markup on services if you worked on it yourself first.
06:12 BatSteve huh, odd
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06:13 masterofmonks My opinion on things like that is, "I may not be a professional, but I am going to make sure that if a professional looks at it, if they can tell that a professional didn't do the work, they will at least be able tot ell that the person gave a damn."
06:14 astro73|mal ok, i think i found the problem
06:14 astro73|mal I suspect it was case mismatch
06:15 Cprossu .ud you done goofed
06:15 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=you%20done%20goofed
06:15 BatSteve let's find out if you're right, astro73|mal
06:16 astro73|mal it's still processing the initial
06:17 eadthem i love this one,  '
06:18 eadthem i love this one,  "To increase portablity, visual studio will not support inline asm on 64bit systems"
06:18 CaptainNiobe is anyone who has good computer knowledge on atm?
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06:19 eadthem translation   "to help lock programmers in to windows we are removing another feature that runs better anyway on GCC"
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06:20 Katemonster hi CaptainNiobe
06:20 CaptainNiobe hey kate :)
06:20 Katemonster what time is it for you right now?
06:20 Sgt_Lemming I'm awake Niobe
06:20 CaptainNiobe 4:20pm
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06:21 CaptainNiobe hey lemming... you got enough pc knowledge to help with this issue? :D
06:21 Sgt_Lemming Katemonster /ctcp nickname time
06:21 Katemonster hmm
06:21 Sgt_Lemming [16:21:34] [Katemonster TIME reply]: Saturday, November 19, 2011 10:21:33 PM
06:21 Toastdude CaptainNiobe!
06:22 Sgt_Lemming what's the issue CaptainNiobe?
06:22 Katemonster yeah, nothing happened for me.
06:22 Katemonster probably because of my client.
06:23 KawaiiJess Kate just an fyi, you've gone and derped because now Minecraft costs an extra ten euros as of yesterday
06:23 CaptainNiobe hey toast :)
06:23 CaptainNiobe and lemming, the issue is win32.fraudload which has persisted over 2 reformats and i can't figure out how the fuck to get rid of it (not my machine, a friend in kansas, usa)
06:23 KawaiiJess So now it's ~$30 to purchase when it used to be ~15
06:23 Katemonster oh what the fuck ever.  i'm not playing it.
06:23 KawaiiJess You wouldn't say that if you knew what you were missing out on. :P
06:24 Sgt_Lemming CaptainNiobe, err, trying to troubleshoot that sort of issue via IRC is painful at best
06:24 Katemonster *i have enough distractions as is*
06:24 Katemonster i've told you that ten fucking times
06:24 KawaiiJess I said the same thing and the only reason I bought it was because my friends on IRC were harassing the shit out of me and I had money burning a hole in my pocket
06:24 Katemonster i'm not buying minecraft
06:24 CaptainNiobe trust me i know... lol... we're certain it came from the adobe vulnerbility in 2009, but it's gotta be somewhere deeper for it to still be there
06:24 astro73|mal BatSteve, I think my next big thing might be to port the whole bot to twisted. asyncore/asynchat has a race condition of some sort
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06:25 astro73|mal (of course, that's going to be fucking huge)
06:28 Katemonster jess aren't you supposed to be writing a sociology paper right now anyway?
06:28 KawaiiJess What, no way
06:28 KawaiiJess I'm totally not behind in all four of my classes
06:28 astro73|mal you sure about that?
06:29 astro73|mal I think i've said something like that before
06:29 Katemonster i rest my case.
06:32 astro73|mal lwq1996, BatSteve, say something.
06:32 BatSteve something
06:32 BatSteve (:
06:32 astro73|mal woot!
06:32 astro73|mal .info
06:32 astro73|mal .title
06:32 BotSteve astro73|mal: Gun Gripes Episode 4: The Kitchen Gunsmith - YouTube
06:33 astro73|mal it's still doing excesive queries, but I'm ok with that.
06:33 astro73|mal since there was to be some way for the data to get updated.
06:34 astro73|mal and I can tell you that 47 users are registered with nickserv.
06:34 astro73|mal you other 23: shame on you!
06:34 Cprossu hey stop checking
06:34 Cprossu (!)
06:35 astro73|mal you can write tools and get the same data
06:35 astro73|mal i even made extensive documentation on NickServ: https://github.com/astronouth7303/tgg-BotSteve/wiki/NickServ
06:35 BotSteve Title: NickServ - GitHub
06:36 BatSteve Cool!
06:36 astro73|mal BatSteve, NickServ can even store extra information for us, like TGG member name
06:37 BatSteve astro73|mal: if you rewrite the bot to use twisted, we might have to turn it into a fork until I learn more, because I know exactly nothing about twisted right now
06:37 astro73|mal oh, we almost certainly would
06:37 astro73|mal that would be an absolute fork breaker
06:37 lwq1996 ok now its bed time
06:37 lwq1996 later guys
06:37 BatSteve good luck lwq
06:37 astro73|mal but it's rather annoying when it just dies in the standard library
06:37 astro73|mal with a rather unhelpful error message, to
06:38 astro73|mal *too
06:39 astro73|mal so i'm going to let that chill for a awhile and see what happens
06:40 astro73|mal BatSteve, also, I gave you a less complicated thing to pull
06:40 BatSteve oh
06:40 BatSteve ok
06:40 BatSteve The greetings database?
06:41 astro73|mal yup
06:41 BatSteve wootz
06:41 astro73|mal except my default keys aren't all in lower case like they should be
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06:48 CaptainNiobe Sgt_Lemming, ToriJ is my friend having the issues
06:48 Sgt_Lemming kk
06:49 Sgt_Lemming torij, tried using something like UBCD to do an offline virus scan?
06:50 CaptainNiobe (he'll reply as soon as he finds the text input, his first time on a webchat)
06:51 BatSteve hi ToriJ
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06:52 Niobeforscreenie tori, one second, i'll send you the screenie
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06:55 ToriJ Found it.
06:55 BatSteve woot!
06:56 CaptainNiobe sweet :) screenies are a great tool at times :D
06:56 CaptainNiobe from Sgt_Lemming: torij, tried using something like UBCD to do an offline virus scan?
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06:56 ToriJ No I haven't.
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06:57 tehdark45 welocome to the geek group ToriJ
06:57 ToriJ Thanks.
07:02 tehdark45 So whats your computer doing ToriJ
07:02 ToriJ It won't let me access ProBoards.com
07:03 tehdark45 have you checked your hosts file?
07:03 ToriJ No. I was told they go through a lot of IPs.
07:03 CaptainNiobe only things that should be in there is spybot-added entries, it's a fresh format (several hours ago)
07:04 tehdark45 DNS?
07:04 CaptainNiobe flushed, no change
07:04 tehdark45 have you tried direct ip?
07:05 ToriJ Direct IP?
07:05 tehdark45 like 13.111.32.666
07:05 CaptainNiobe i had considered that, but proboards uses a number of servers and different ips, which all change
07:05 tehdark45 or watever it is
07:06 CaptainNiobe he can't even ping proboards
07:06 ToriJ Yeah it won't ping or trace so I have no way to attract the IP.
07:06 tehdark45 174.122.238.250
07:06 tehdark45 thered one
07:06 tehdark45 theres*
07:07 astro73|mal that's the one i got for them
07:08 ToriJ I'd be. It worked.
07:08 CaptainNiobe that's a resolver issue then, isn't it?
07:08 tehdark45 Yeah
07:09 CaptainNiobe and there's still the problem of a reoccuring win32.fraudload
07:09 tehdark45 somethings up with your ISP DNS most likely
07:12 CaptainNiobe funny thing is, before this format, he was able to access proboards' sites without _too_ much difficulty, tjhough it was hit or miss as to whether it wouldn't just give him the "opps!" message
07:13 CaptainNiobe since reformat, he has been entirely unable to connect to proboards' sites, yet most if not all othr siteas appear fine
07:13 ToriJ That was just with the cbox. The ProBoards sites went down one day and that's when I finally just reformatted the thing.
07:13 CaptainNiobe ahh... i had wondered what had kicked you into formatting
07:14 ToriJ Yeah, with the exception of ProBoards my computer's working better than ever. I even have updated programs I haven't been able to get before.
07:15 astro73|mal you could always hack up your network config and use 8.8.8.8 as your DNS server
07:15 tehdark45 ToriJ, you have a flash drive with a gig or so laying around?
07:15 ToriJ I'm not sure...
07:16 tehdark45 or blank CD?
07:16 ToriJ I have several blank CDs. They're normally saved for when I need to back up something.
07:17 tehdark45 Ok, ToriJ. What you can do is burn a linux live CD, and see of you still get no response from pro boards
07:17 tehdark45 on linux
07:17 CaptainNiobe link for download?
07:18 tehdark45 .g ubuntu
07:18 BotSteve tehdark45: http://www.ubuntu.com/
07:18 CaptainNiobe thank you
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07:20 CaptainNiobe tehdark45, i've never done anything like this myself... can we both please have instructions so i can learn as well please?
07:20 tehdark45 Burn the ISO, reboot PC and enter boot settings. Select CD drive. Ubuntu will then boot up. It wont do anything to your windows (just as long as you dont hit install on the ubuntu desktop )
07:20 astro73|mal glad i got that straightened out
07:21 * CaptainNiobe as usual feels dumb in the face of those more knowledgeable and wishes to know what ISO is
07:21 tehdark45 heres full instructons
07:21 tehdark45 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD
07:21 BotSteve Title: LiveCD - Community Ubuntu Documentation
07:21 astro73|mal .define iso
07:21 BotSteve iso — noun: 1. (American football) An isolation play in which the fullback leads the tailback into the opposing defensive line
07:21 tehdark45 ISO is a disk image file.
07:21 Toastdude CaptainNiobe: Disk image
07:22 tehdark45 its the thing you get from ubuntus website
07:22 CaptainNiobe ahh, gottcha... thankies, both :)
07:22 Toastdude :)
07:22 tehdark45 i also reccomend the torrent. it goes so much faster
07:29 tehdark45 hows the CD going
07:29 CaptainNiobe he's reading through at the moment... he's also very tired, so that may slow things a little...
07:32 astro73|mal thanks, BatSteve-Away, for finding a bug
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07:35 CaptainNiobe awake*
07:35 CaptainNiobe oops
07:37 Sgt_Lemming btw, for those unfamiliar with it. UBCD == ultimate boot CD
07:37 Sgt_Lemming bunch of diagnostic tools etc on a live cd
07:38 CaptainNiobe ahh, thank you, lemming... i still have much to learn, methinks :)
07:45 astro73|mal ok, that is plenty of damage for one day.
07:46 astro73|mal time to hit the hay
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08:07 Druidcantsleep Any one around
08:07 Sgt_Lemming sort of
08:07 Sgt_Lemming going to cook dinner soon
08:15 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48rStZV40Ks
08:15 BotSteve Title: Cheap Back Up Power - YouTube
08:15 Hackbat so want his setup
08:15 Hackbat Does he frequent the irc?
08:17 Sgt_Lemming nope
08:18 Hackbat shame
08:18 Hackbat though he probally gets more done that way
08:24 tehdark45 i am here
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08:45 * Katemonster is too tired to go on
08:45 Katemonster night, geeks
08:45 Druidcantsleep night
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09:37 Monkeh Something tells me Chris has never changed a drill chuck before.
09:41 tehdark45 Why would you change one anyway?
09:41 Monkeh tehdark45: They break occasionally.
09:41 Monkeh tehdark45: Also I've had to disassemble some to clean them properly.
09:41 Monkeh (not an easy job. Not recommended.)
09:42 tehdark45 is your warrenty void?
09:42 tehdark45 :P
09:42 Monkeh tehdark45: Yep, let me replace one cheap chuck with another and not have the drill for twk weeks.
09:42 Monkeh Or I could just fit a proper one next day!
09:42 Monkeh Changing a chuck on a working drill is a five minute job, fyi.
09:43 tehdark45 Or buy a good drill that doesn't need all that
09:43 tehdark45 Like a proper key chuck
09:43 Monkeh tehdark45: Even good drills have faulty chucks.
09:43 Monkeh tehdark45: And again, I can get and fit a replacement chuck a lot faster than sending the whole drill back, even under warranty.
09:44 tehdark45 Unless you live near the manufaturer
09:44 Monkeh Hahah, yeah, right.
09:44 tehdark45 Whay, your not in india?
09:44 tehdark45 :P
09:44 Monkeh No, my drills are made in Germany.
09:45 tehdark45 So your a quick drive accross the border
09:45 Monkeh Riiiight.
09:45 Monkeh Geography, not your strong suit? :P
09:46 Monkeh Man, he's never going to put THAT gearbox back together.. :D
09:47 tehdark45 european geography
09:47 tehdark45 :P
09:47 Monkeh Too complicated for you? ;)
09:48 tehdark45 I just havn't studied it
09:48 tehdark45 i do know the diff between UK and britain
09:50 Monkeh Orly?
09:52 tehdark45 UK: England, Ireland Scotland
09:52 tehdark45 Wales*
09:53 Monkeh Don't say that around the Irish.
09:53 tehdark45 Those silly irelanders
09:53 tehdark45 only giving uk the north
09:53 tehdark45 lol
09:55 tehdark45 On the passport at lest
09:57 tehdark45 I haz the British passport these guys are jelly bro
09:59 tehdark45 so wat you doing Monkeh
09:59 Monkeh Little
10:00 tehdark45 Stuart?
10:00 Monkeh No, but you can call me that if you like.
10:00 Monkeh Not particularly descriptive, but..
10:00 Druidcantsleep there is your problem monkey Buy Northamerican made and you won't have the problem
10:01 Druidcantsleep your buying german stuff
10:01 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Oh, sure.
10:01 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: See the chuck on that American drill he was pulling apart? Yeah, that's German.
10:01 Druidcantsleep well
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10:01 tehdark45 I have a better idee
10:01 tehdark45 make your own
10:01 Druidcantsleep See if i bought a camero
10:02 Druidcantsleep I could walk to the factory
10:02 Druidcantsleep But say I buy Some ricer from japan
10:02 Druidcantsleep ... Can i walk to the factory
10:02 Monkeh You'd actually have a decent vehicle.
10:02 Druidcantsleep ???
10:02 Druidcantsleep the Chevy Camero is a decent vehicle
10:02 Monkeh No, but Google will give you launch and landing points so you can canoe there.
10:02 tehdark45 Druidcantsleep, the only cameros worth buying stopped production a long time ago
10:03 Druidcantsleep Debatable the new ones are still really nice
10:04 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Anyway, if I bought an 'american' drill, I still couldn't walk to the factory.
10:04 tehdark45 Monkeh, thats cuse you would swim
10:04 tehdark45 :P
10:04 Monkeh tehdark45: No, as I recall I'd be kayaking.
10:04 tehdark45 No Monkeh your not native :P
10:05 * Monkeh makes note: nobody here gets that joke
10:05 tehdark45 should we?
10:05 Monkeh You're on the internet and claim to be a geek.
10:06 tehdark45 And?
10:07 * Monkeh shakes his head
10:07 tehdark45 Druidcantsleep, you get what hes on about?
10:08 Druidcantsleep Some Canadian bashing joke
10:08 Druidcantsleep ????
10:09 Monkeh No, but I can start with those.
10:09 Druidcantsleep And i can blow your head of with a .223 remington sniper rifle
10:09 Monkeh You have no idea how dumb that sounds.
10:10 Druidcantsleep off*
10:10 Monkeh I'll just go borrow a .338 which is actually a snipe rifle and currently holds the record for longest recorded kill.
10:10 Monkeh Bah, can't type today
10:10 tehdark45 Ill just gat a .50 and own you all
10:10 Monkeh tehdark45: Sorry, .50 is crap.
10:11 Druidcantsleep borrowed rifle VS a rifle in the hands of a guy who Virturally sleep... Wow... Monkeh...
10:11 Druidcantsleep What are you smoking
10:11 Druidcantsleep 50 AIN'T crap
10:11 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: It's an old heavy machinegun round. It's got a lot of energy and.. well, that's about it.
10:11 tehdark45 they make holes in tanks
10:11 Druidcantsleep and IF we're playing this game Fuck it .50/20 vulcan
10:12 tehdark45 nuff said
10:12 Monkeh .338 Lapua Magnum was developed specifically to be a high energy, long range anti-personnel round.
10:12 Monkeh tehdark45: .. No, no they don't.
10:12 Druidcantsleep Depends on the tank
10:12 Druidcantsleep MBT not really
10:12 Druidcantsleep Bradlys could cause a bad day
10:12 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: If it's actually classed as a tank from the last 40 years, no, a .50 will not go through it.
10:13 Druidcantsleep Depends where i am hitting
10:13 Druidcantsleep I don'
10:13 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Vehicles like the Bradley and Striker were specifically designed to resist large calibre fire like that.
10:13 Monkeh And they're not tanks.
10:13 Druidcantsleep t Need to put a round into the Crew cabin to fuck it up
10:14 Druidcantsleep 2 rpound crack the tracks
10:14 Monkeh Hole in the tracks is not impressive.
10:14 Druidcantsleep 3rd round through the side... actuall start off with a Armour pircing super incidiary round into the barrel
10:14 Monkeh And you may find they're tougher than you think.
10:14 Druidcantsleep 30 bucks Rather broken tank
10:15 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: 'armour piercing super incendiary'?
10:15 Druidcantsleep Moneky what tanks have you been around
10:15 Druidcantsleep ???
10:15 tehdark45 Just get in a Range Rover Sport. Your personell will be fine
10:15 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Oh, everything from a Mark V to a Challenger 2..
10:15 Monkeh And please, look at my name, that's not a y.
10:15 Druidcantsleep I've been In a working M555 Sheriden an M60A3 been in the bay with a Centurian
10:16 tehdark45 Druidcantsleep, tab is your friend
10:16 Druidcantsleep .50 BMG is not crap
10:16 Monkeh As a sniper round, yes, it is.
10:16 Monkeh It survives by virtue of having lots of tooling and a lot of energy.
10:17 Druidcantsleep Survives cause it works
10:17 Druidcantsleep wouldn't be inservice other wise with almost every nato army
10:17 Monkeh Quite a few use purpose designed rifles and ammunition.
10:17 Druidcantsleep Canadian forces USE both
10:18 Monkeh I think you'll find most NATO armies use other calibres for sniper rifles.
10:18 Druidcantsleep Many use .308
10:19 Druidcantsleep but a 9 Lbs .223 still is a deadly weapon provided the firecontrol system knows what it's doing
10:19 tehdark45 A plastic knife is a deadly weapon
10:19 tehdark45 just needs the right operator
10:19 Druidcantsleep Yeah Specifically those Cold steel ones
10:20 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Out to what, 800 yards?
10:20 Druidcantsleep you know there are only 3 places I've been to that an 800 shot was possible
10:20 Druidcantsleep CFB connaught ranges
10:21 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Meanwhile, the .338 has been proven at 2700 yards.
10:21 Druidcantsleep the 1000 yard range at CFB borden where NCTC Blackdown is based
10:21 Druidcantsleep Still you know why hathcocks record stood as long as it did
10:21 Druidcantsleep ???
10:21 Druidcantsleep wasn't lack of equiptment
10:21 Druidcantsleep or will
10:21 Druidcantsleep Lack of terrane
10:21 Monkeh Because nobody else was trying and there weren't any purpose designed high calibre sniper rifles or wars to use them in?
10:22 Druidcantsleep Nope
10:22 Druidcantsleep The terrane for that shot is extreamly rare
10:22 Monkeh And the word is terrain.
10:22 Monkeh As I said, 'wars to use them in'.
10:22 Druidcantsleep theres a war going on every day some where
10:23 Druidcantsleep the reality is it's very rare to Deploy a weapon with that kinda range
10:23 Druidcantsleep .223 Does the job Most of the time
10:23 tehdark45 Monkeh, Chav vs people ;)
10:23 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Actually, most of the work in Afghanistan is done by bombs.
10:24 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: We just keep their heads down with a promise of a .338 in the eye if they show themselves.
10:24 Druidcantsleep Still 1000 yard shots Finding an acceptible hide
10:24 Druidcantsleep urbin areas
10:24 Druidcantsleep Rare
10:24 Monkeh Urban.
10:24 Monkeh Right.
10:24 Monkeh Been to Afghanistan lately?
10:24 Druidcantsleep nope
10:24 Druidcantsleep tried at 18
10:25 Monkeh Not so much urban in Helmand province.
10:25 Druidcantsleep helmand didn't a candian general have command there at one point? BTW i am in Sothern ontario Not A-Stan ... tools used there have no barring here
10:26 Druidcantsleep heck if i had 9 grand i could have a C15 LRSWS Shipped to my door Everything cept the suppressor from the manurfacturer
10:26 tehdark45 Hey im in southern BC
10:26 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: No, actually, you'll find we've been in control of the operations there for nearly the entire war.
10:26 Druidcantsleep another cannuck?
10:26 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: The yanks tried. They failed.
10:27 tehdark45 Canuck*
10:27 Druidcantsleep Canadians tried sucieded with less resources the brits coppied the canadian plans And take credit
10:27 tehdark45 And i dont care much for hocky
10:27 Druidcantsleep like vimy
10:27 Druidcantsleep I am moving to a cave if the leafs make it to the cup finals
10:27 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: You barely even have a presence in Helmand.
10:28 Druidcantsleep Considering Canadas combat troops are pulled out....
10:28 Druidcantsleep of the whole country...
10:28 tehdark45 Maple leaves: Lets do well till play offs
10:28 tehdark45 :P
10:28 Druidcantsleep I don't think we would
10:28 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: You've hardly had a presence during the entire war.
10:29 tehdark45 Monkeh, that might have to do with the US having triple the worlds speding in defence
10:29 tehdark45 just maybe
10:30 Druidcantsleep Some how canada killed more towel heads then evvery one else in theater
10:30 Monkeh tehdark45: Not like we've had five times as many troops as Canada deployed since the beginning or anything.
10:30 Druidcantsleep meh who took first POW's... ooooh yeah
10:30 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Would you like to back the claim up, without the ignorant racist statements?
10:30 tehdark45 Druidcantsleep, thats cuse the americans are all eating donuts
10:30 Druidcantsleep :P
10:31 Druidcantsleep Consdiering Canada Pulled more then it's expected weight
10:31 tehdark45 oh wait thats the cops
10:31 tehdark45 The American troops are all filing lawsuits
10:31 Druidcantsleep And had lower Casualtys per enemy KIA
10:32 tehdark45 no time to kill
10:32 Druidcantsleep WITH out the aid of helicopter gunships and airsupport
10:32 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Because you're operating the howitzers.
10:32 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: The ones we built for you.
10:33 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: With the GPS guided artillery shells we developed.
10:33 tehdark45 I cant remember the name but canada had most advanced jets
10:33 tehdark45 but then they killed the program
10:33 Druidcantsleep Ummm actually candians we're front line troops and Nope CF doesn't use those
10:33 Druidcantsleep Avro Arrow
10:33 tehdark45 Yes that
10:33 tehdark45 Socials 11 was a while ago
10:34 Monkeh From the 50s.
10:34 tehdark45 lol
10:34 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Um, actually, you did operate artillery in Helmand. And you certainly use our howitzers.
10:34 Druidcantsleep We don't use GPS guided shells
10:34 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: And yes, you do use the Excalibur.
10:36 tehdark45 and become the king?
10:37 Druidcantsleep Hmmm not allot on it But apparently an order was placed in april
10:40 Druidcantsleep other then having the capability none of my sources show them in regular use
10:40 Monkeh I have great faith in your sources.
10:43 Druidcantsleep regaurdless doesn't the USA still mostly issue 7.62x51MM nato rifles for snipping heck Remigntons still producing and refurbishing M24's
10:44 Druidcantsleep not to mention the C15 LRSWS will beat out the US M107 in accuracy
10:44 Monkeh Druidcantsleep: Which is an American rifle, too!
10:45 Druidcantsleep Actually There are Canadian made versions made by PGWDI that are replacing the macmillains
10:45 Druidcantsleep Less papper work and No state department BS
10:45 Druidcantsleep Just as good a rifle
10:46 Monkeh And it's still an American design, proud guy.
10:46 Monkeh And it's McMillan.
10:46 Druidcantsleep it's 6 am i have insomnia and took almost 3 X the recommended does of a Gerbal sleep aid FUCK off
10:47 Druidcantsleep herbel*
10:47 Monkeh Touchy..
10:47 Druidcantsleep yeah your on my last nerve
10:50 tehdark45 herbal sleep aid lol
10:51 Druidcantsleep yeah
10:51 Druidcantsleep fucking things don't work any more
10:51 tehdark45 that doesnt normally come with a reccomneded dosage
10:52 Druidcantsleep these ones do
10:52 tehdark45 if you know what i mean
10:53 Druidcantsleep needless to say i am not in the mood to get into a pissing contest with a twat
10:53 Monkeh And who's the one who threatened to shoot me?
10:53 tehdark45 Brit vs canadain GO
10:54 tehdark45 lol
10:54 Druidcantsleep your not living in canada you don't get to bash it
10:54 Monkeh Riiiiight.
10:54 Monkeh Go away.
10:55 Druidcantsleep meh
10:55 tehdark45 Ok guys chill out
10:59 Sgt_Lemming oh god that was some good nacho's
11:00 Sgt_Lemming so yummy
11:00 tehdark45 It took you 3 hours for nachos?
11:01 Monkeh tehdark45: He's down under. It takes that long to drive somewhere for them.
11:01 Sgt_Lemming no, 1 hour prep, 30 minutes in the oven, 1.5 hours to eat and digest
11:02 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: By 'digest' you mean 'flow through and out the other end at a significant fraction of c'? ;)
11:02 Sgt_Lemming no
11:02 tehdark45 Lol
11:02 Sgt_Lemming as in wait for myself to stop feeling like I just ate a bowling ball
11:02 Sgt_Lemming cause that was a rather filling meal
11:02 tehdark45 If it taco bell your cleand out quickly
11:03 tehdark45 lol
11:03 Sgt_Lemming tehdark45, hand made from scratch
11:03 tehdark45 I saw
11:03 tehdark45 So you milked the cow, grew the corn?
11:04 tehdark45 :P
11:04 Sgt_Lemming http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=209140&amp;highlight=deluxe <-- that's my recipe
11:04 BotSteve Title: Deluxe nachos and how to make them. - Overclockers Australia Forums
11:04 tehdark45 on overclockers O_o
11:05 tehdark45 Were they 4 GHZ?
11:05 tehdark45 :P
11:24 killaway^zzZZ enny one here thats good att calculating mmc`s?
11:29 killakee i need to find the nf value of a capasitor called: DT103J
11:29 killakee can ennyon halp me ?
11:30 killakee i think its 1600volts
11:31 Sgt_Lemming I would guess 1000nF
11:31 Sgt_Lemming but not certain
11:31 Sgt_Lemming is that the only info on it?
11:36 killakee heh yes .. drives me crazy ... i need to know the nf value of my old mmc aray
11:36 killakee 1000nf?
11:37 killakee issnt that a little to mutch for sutch caps?
11:37 Sgt_Lemming err, 1000 nanofards is fuck all
11:38 killakee i cant find DT103J on the net .. i have searched all over
11:38 Sgt_Lemming yeah I just googled it then and got not much
11:38 killakee hmm i think i have to lower my nf a lot then
11:38 killakee hmm
11:39 killakee wish there was a database on sutch things :(
11:40 killakee couse knowings half the battle
11:40 killakee :P
12:00 killakee if i have 2 caps with 3,3nf and on with 0,1nf in serries whats the total of that ?
12:01 Sgt_Lemming 6.7nf
12:01 killakee are you 100% sure ?
12:01 Sgt_Lemming 90%
12:01 killakee hmm
12:06 killakee totaly weird
12:06 killakee oh well
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12:12 Seroster Dodedo...
12:13 exor674 uh oO noo
12:13 exor674 .wa 3.3nanofarad 0.1nanofarad series
12:13 BotSteve series capacitance-> , capacitance 1->3.3 nF  (nanofarads), capacitance 2->0.1 nF  (nanofarads);equivalent capacitance->97.06 pF  (picofarads), 0.09706 nF  (nanofarads), 9.706&times;10^-11 F  (farads);1\/C = 1\/C_1+1\/C_2-> , C->equivalent capacitance, C_1->capacitance 1, C_2->capacitance 2, (capacitance given by two capacitors arranged in series)
12:34 * dbshortwave yawns
12:54 Seroster Morning sir
13:03 dbshortwave sir?
13:03 dbshortwave just call me Mr shitstain
13:03 dbshortwave lol
13:04 Seroster Morning, dipshit
13:04 Seroster Better? =P
13:04 dbshortwave yep
13:04 dbshortwave lol not old enough to be a sir
13:13 killakee exor674:97.06pF ?
13:13 exor674 yes
13:13 killakee thats like nothing
13:13 killakee wow
13:31 Seroster My armpit got more capacitance
13:35 dbshortwave ive so far scored a dot matrix (working) printer
13:35 dbshortwave i may try it here soon
13:35 dbshortwave lol
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13:48 Hackbat just learned something important
13:53 Electricguy anyone want to buy a really expensive box with some binding posts and wire int it? XD http://www.ohm-labs.com/pdfs/resistance/100-0.pdf
13:54 Electricguy you gotta be a real idiot if you buy that
13:57 Hackbat actually
13:57 Hackbat if it's lab grade it's worth the price
13:58 Hackbat sounds stupid but at a certain level you need that assurance
13:59 Electricguy but i can make a 0 Ohm resistor in seconds with a piece of wire
13:59 Electricguy it's just a box with a dead short
14:08 Hackbat no
14:08 Hackbat it's possib;e for a wire to have resistance measurable by some meters
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14:23 Electricguy yes but to make a "resistor" that removes lead resistance you need a ciruit that gives negative resistance
14:23 Electricguy not just 0 Ohms
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14:26 Seroster erm
14:26 Seroster sec electricguy
14:26 Electricguy ?
14:27 Seroster What the fuck is that?
14:27 Electricguy if that "0 Ohm" calibration box isn't active in any way it's still going to have some resistance. and that box is a bullshit thing for audiophiles and such morons
14:27 Electricguy so yeah, it IS just a box with wires in it
14:27 Seroster Er,
14:28 Seroster I think you get the same result when shorting your meter leads to each other and hit "calibrate"
14:28 Electricguy yepp. that's correct
14:28 Electricguy but it looks and feels more fancy with a really expensive calibration box
14:29 Seroster And honestly, I can't respect audiophiles who pay a grand for a 3meter long cable that is really nothing more than a three meter fucking cable. You can hook up a stereo with extension cords damnit.
14:29 Hackbat oh wow
14:30 Hackbat there's a service for sending stuff to your kindle now
14:30 Hackbat awesome
14:31 Electricguy nah, audiophiles are damn idiots. buy a REALLY awesome looking power cord for your amp for like 300 dollars. and it sounds SO MUCH BETTER. even if it's a regular shitty 1.5mm^2 cable with shitloads of stuff around it
14:31 Electricguy AND you still got the same shitty old wiring in the walls in your house
14:35 Cprossu Electricguy drives me nuts.
14:35 Cprossu *it drives me nuts
14:36 Electricguy i really like to drive people nuts :D especially when i haven't done anything! XD
14:36 Cprossu and they buy power conditioners that one person can pick up single handedly.
14:36 Electricguy yeh
14:37 Electricguy it's just sad that they don't know what they are doing
14:37 Electricguy the only 2 things i got which is ALMOST to the audiophile way is the small table my amps are sitting on and my speaker cables
14:38 Cprossu They'll buy any snake oil device- hook, line & sinker.
14:38 Electricguy BUT, with a reason. the table got pegs under it, it comes from when i had the turntable on it to stop resonance
14:39 Electricguy and the cables were find really cheap on a second hand store
14:39 Cprossu and don't forget to buy a $350 HDMI cable to make the picture look clearer!
14:39 Electricguy and they are very good quality cables
14:39 Electricguy oh, yeah, and you totally need those GOLD PLATED OPTICAL CABLES! XD
14:42 Cprossu I seem to remember there was a company that was selling audio focussing pyramids
14:42 Electricguy LOL
14:42 Electricguy i even use to make my own audio cables instead of buying these fancy looking really expensive ones
14:43 Hackbat electricguy there is some credit to some of the cables
14:43 Hackbat monster cable does use the best materials
14:43 Electricguy just buy some nice PA grade audio connectors and some nice microphone cable
14:43 Hackbat you can just buy them yourself for alot less
14:43 Electricguy yeah Monster cables make some nice stuff
14:43 Cprossu Hackbat: Monster cable also puts plastic through the middle of some of their wire.
14:43 Cprossu to make it look bigger guage
14:44 Hackbat Cprussu I have something you should watch
14:44 Hackbat just give me a second
14:44 Cprossu and they make such insanely heavy connectors and cable that it rips out the solder joints of amps because of it's weight.
14:44 Electricguy the brand on my speaker cables is Oehlbach. a really nice german brand
14:44 Cprossu I can't tell you how many recievers I've fixed due to the jacks being pulled out due to monster cable.
14:45 Cprossu or big screen TV motherboards for that matter
14:45 Electricguy i do have to agree there, i bought a audio cable from Monster once, the strain relief is pretty shitty
14:46 Hackbat http://revision3.com/systm/avcabling
14:46 BotSteve Title: Making High Quality A/V Cables - Systm
14:46 Seroster Hpw to piss an audiophile off?
14:47 Seroster I use a downloader to rip music from youtube, and I listen to it on my phone, with the stock headphones.
14:47 sndwrx mornin'
14:47 sndwrx and
14:47 Electricguy i only got DIY audio cables in my stereo system. hehe :P the cable between my amp and sub amp is made with nice neutrik connectors and nice microphone cable, reallt nice thick soft one :) and the 10 meter long cable between my computer and the stereo is made with Neutrik connectors and microwave antenna coax! XD
14:47 * Hackbat uses sony studio headphones.
14:47 sndwrx Why does this seem to be such a frequent topic of rant?
14:47 Seroster Soundworks... Sounds a bit like an audiophile now doesnt it
14:48 Electricguy microwave antenna coax is the most noise free audio cable i have used in these lengths XD
14:48 Seroster sndwrx, Because it's like shootin nazi zombies, we all hate them and you dont feel bad for calling them idiots (or shooting them, whatever floats your boat)
14:48 sndwrx Yeah but it's always the same argument.
14:48 sndwrx "monster cable sux lawl"
14:48 CaptainNiobe SERO! *tackles* :D
14:49 Seroster sndwrx, Never heard of monster except for energy drinks, wich I dont even drink
14:49 Seroster Hello there CaptainNiobe, how's your pubes?
14:49 CaptainNiobe long, ow's yours? :P
14:49 CaptainNiobe how*
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14:50 Seroster Wb eadthem
14:50 Electricguy monster cables are used on studio by DR. Dre headphones and those
14:50 Seroster I bet
14:50 Cprossu Hackbat: Belden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Monster.
14:51 Electricguy http://felizzia.myshowroom.se/files/2011/06/beats-by-dr-dre-thumb-480x439_149948267.jpg
14:51 Cprossu (that's a lot of >'s too)
14:51 Electricguy really expensive
14:51 Hackbat kaay?
14:51 Seroster .....Damnit
14:51 Electricguy a pair of studio headphones that got a better design
14:51 Hackbat I never said Monster cable was the best
14:51 Cprossu the guy in your video is using belden.
14:51 Seroster I use RKK for audio cables.
14:51 Hackbat lol
14:51 Cprossu heck I use stuff I can find at my welding supply store =P
14:51 Seroster Left right and ground. Stop bitching.
14:51 Electricguy that works just fine too XD
14:52 Electricguy the only downside i see with that is that the strands are stiff so you never get a REALLY good connection in the terminals. but that's not a problem at all if it's not a 3kW/channel system :P
14:53 Seroster R K K BITCH
14:53 Cprossu set screws make me happy.
14:53 Seroster Isnt rkk multistrand?
14:53 eadthem hey
14:53 Electricguy it is, but the strands are still pretty stiff
14:54 Seroster Either RKK is the equivalent of romax or it is your every day grounded extension cord
14:54 Electricguy i had some shitty cables from printer wall warts before, was like 0.5mm^2... XD was a bit of a upgrade when i changed to 2.5mm^2 Oehlbach cable, lol
14:55 Cprossu I used to use lamp cord lol
14:55 Seroster Cprossu, RKK.
14:55 Electricguy hehe
14:55 Cprossu lol Seroster
14:55 Electricguy Seroster, RKK.
14:56 Electricguy the Oehlbach cables did actually make my subwoofer sound better! XD better response now than before. clearly the old shitty 0.5mm^2 cables were a BIT too flimsy
14:56 Seroster Buy me two identical stereos, two identical sets of speakers, two identical CDs, one $5000 audiophile cord and one $10 RKK of the same lenght, plug it all in and I bet you won't hear any difference whatsoever in a double blind test.
14:56 Electricguy of course not
14:57 Electricguy take a 16kW PA system and see the RKK burn
14:57 sndwrx All I have to say is that both of my $15 v-moda and skullcandy headphones sound better than every set of Dr. Dre Beats.
14:57 Electricguy and skullcandy really sounds like a bag of poo if you ask me XD
14:57 Electricguy at least all the ones i have tried
14:57 sndwrx Most of them, yes.
14:58 Cprossu I was really unhappy when I tried skullcandy's
14:58 Electricguy i almost thought it was something wrong with the first pair i tried as they sounded so bad for that price
14:58 sndwrx I have no idea what kind these are, or even where I got them.  I know I didn't buy them.
14:58 Cprossu they are nearly comfortable but sound like ass.
14:58 sndwrx But they sound decent.
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14:58 Seroster electricguy if the first RKK burns you get three RKKs of the same lenght. Tie all the blues together, all the greens together and all the browns together. Green is your ground, blue is left and bron is right.
14:58 Seroster Also, hello sparkie
14:59 Electricguy that's also an option.
14:59 Electricguy or buy some decent speaker cable made by Supra cables in sweden. 2 dollars/meter approx
14:59 Electricguy :)
14:59 Cprossu every pair I've lisened to sounds like seinnheizers's run through a disposible plastic cup.
14:59 Seroster .... RKK
15:00 Electricguy yeah skullcandy phones looks pretty good, the sound is shit and the build quality is shit
15:00 Monkeh Did someone say Sennheiser?
15:00 Cprossu Hackbat this is driving me nuts that it won't expand to full screen
15:00 Seroster Car jumper wires are great for audio too
15:00 Electricguy i got a nice pair of beyer Dynamics headphones :3
15:01 Electricguy costed me 85 damn dollars! O_O but totally worth it as there are spare parts and everything for them
15:01 Cprossu Monkeh: I said skullcandy's sound like sennheisers' run through a disosible plastic cup.
15:01 sndwrx Well, companies like Monster are doing something right -- They're making money.  That's about all that matters in business.
15:01 Electricguy and they sound SO damn good compared to much other stuff
15:01 Monkeh Cprossu: So like something good, but not.
15:01 Monkeh Electricguy: Cheapos. :)
15:01 Cprossu yes.
15:02 Monkeh Cprossu: Any and all names known by random people on the street will suck
15:02 Electricguy yeah it wasn't the really expensive ones, but still WAY better than all skullcandy and the similar crap :P
15:02 Cprossu I had a cheap pair of senn's
15:02 Cprossu that sounded decent
15:03 Monkeh Cprossu: I use HD380s at the moment. They're nice.
15:03 Cprossu I am stuck using cheapo headsets because I destroy mine
15:03 Cprossu using a god awful plantronics right now
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15:03 Monkeh Cprossu: See, I stopped using cheap ones because I destroy them.
15:03 Monkeh Cprossu: Sennheiser ones last many years for me.
15:04 mashpriborintorg hi all
15:04 Cprossu the cables wear out no matter what I buy
15:04 sndwrx Plantronics.
15:04 sndwrx I'd rather stab myself in the ear with an unsharpened pencil.
15:04 Cprossu and senn's cables are expensive.
15:04 Electricguy i really wonder what people do with their headphones.. XD i have never ever broke a pair of headphones... XD
15:04 Cprossu sndwrx: then you should see logitech.
15:04 Electricguy but one of my classmates broke his all the damn time
15:04 Monkeh Cprossu: Took me two years to kill the cable on my HD515s.
15:04 Cprossu if you really want to stab your ear with a pencil
15:04 Electricguy dunno what he was doing with them
15:04 Monkeh Cprossu: And it took 30 seconds to change it.
15:05 Cprossu I feel shitty buying a $45 cable for a headset Monkeh
15:05 Monkeh Cprossu: You're paying too much.
15:05 Monkeh Cprossu: Mine would, right now, have cost $16.
15:05 Cprossu Monkeh: yours doesn't have a mic.
15:06 Monkeh Cprossu: True, I don't bother with headsets any more.
15:06 Monkeh Cprossu: A USB mic is far superior.
15:06 Cprossu hence why I used the word headset.
15:06 Cprossu usb mic's suck
15:06 Electricguy i got a Plantronics Gamecom 377 headset for my computer. doesn't sound very good at all
15:06 Monkeh Cprossu: Still, that's a bit more of a markup than you'd expect for a couple of extra wires.
15:06 Cprossu yeah I know Electricguy
15:07 Electricguy really heavily driven and i really have to crank up the bass to even hear it
15:07 Monkeh Cprossu: Well, I admit I haven't tried a Sennheiser headset. But it'd be.. really, really awkward to use a headset in my setup anyway.
15:07 Cprossu the cheaper version actually sounds better Electricguy
15:07 Monkeh Cprossu: I much prefer having a seperate mic.
15:07 Electricguy they do sound pretty good when running them with my LM3886 gainclone amp! XD
15:07 Cprossu I haven't found a seperate mic worth a damn
15:07 Hackbat cprossu I think there's some problems with the site right now
15:07 Electricguy Cprossu, ahh, darn
15:07 Cprossu wouldn't shock me at all Hackbat
15:08 Monkeh Cprossu: For plain old voice, Logitech USB ones are fine. Just couple them with some filtering.
15:08 Cprossu Monkeh: I bet it doesn't have drivers for XP x64 =P
15:08 Monkeh Cprossu: Does XP x64 have bog standard USB audio drivers?
15:08 Cprossu no.
15:08 Cprossu everything has to be signed.
15:08 Monkeh Cprossu: .. wow, because I didn't even need extra drivers with XP 32.
15:08 Monkeh Cprossu: They came with it.
15:08 Electricguy i'm allergic to USB soundcards if it's not a big box with external power supply XD
15:09 Monkeh Windows that is. Not the mic.
15:09 Electricguy cause they really don't sound that good
15:09 Cprossu usb sound cards/mics don't work in the same way they do in xp32, or vista64.
15:09 Cprossu in xp 64 =P
15:09 Monkeh Cprossu: So I ask you.
15:09 Monkeh Cprossu: Why do you use that abortion?
15:09 Cprossu Hackbat what problems are you having??
15:10 Hackbat it didn't load right
15:10 Hackbat so had to reload
15:10 Hackbat then it didn't load right again
15:10 Cprossu Monkeh: Because I needed my 4gb of ram, I hated vista, it was december 2008.
15:10 Hackbat did it again then just said fudge it
15:10 Hackbat it's also a canceled show
15:10 Cprossu and XP 64 is more stable than most everything else out there that supports the ram windows wise Monkeh
15:10 Hackbat so it might have old code
15:11 Monkeh Cprossu: It's nearly December 2011. Time to fix your mistake. ;)
15:11 Electricguy isn't XP 64 a stripped version of Win 2003 server?
15:11 Cprossu Monkeh: windows 7 is just windows vista rammed down everyone's throats.
15:11 Monkeh Cprossu: It's a lot better than Vista.
15:11 Cprossu Electricguy: negative, xp 64 is 2003 server with all the stuff re-enabled
15:11 Cprossu like opengl
15:11 Electricguy cause 2003 server is pretty much just a 64 bit XP with some extra toys
15:11 Cprossu nope
15:11 Monkeh Cprossu: Anyway, you're certain XP64 doesn't have the driver?
15:12 Cprossu xp 64 is 2003 with more toys
15:12 Monkeh Cprossu: Because I don't see why it wouldn't.
15:12 Cprossu yes I am certain
15:12 Cprossu Monkeh : it just doesnt.
15:12 Electricguy yeah i got that. but compared to XP 32, 2003 server is a 64 bit XP with more toys
15:12 Cprossu no.
15:13 Cprossu getting directX and opengl
15:13 Cprossu to work in server 2003
15:13 Cprossu is a 6 1/2 hour bitch fest
15:13 Cprossu been there done that
15:13 Monkeh Cprossu: Win7. It just works.
15:13 Monkeh :P
15:13 Cprossu it doesn't and the print queue won't be stable
15:13 Cprossu and HP drivers in 7 SUCK ASS
15:13 Cprossu and crash
15:14 Cprossu not to mention my graphics drivers in xp x64 are solid as a rock.
15:14 Monkeh Cprossu: It does and I've had a lot more luck printing with Win7 than XP.
15:14 Cprossu and I get a real 2d mode.
15:14 Cprossu Monkeh: You've apparently never used xp 64 so stop trying to convince me that I am wrong.
15:15 Monkeh Cprossu: I've never seen the need to.
15:15 Cprossu then stop trying to convince me that I am wrong!
15:15 Monkeh Cprossu: I don't see how it can be more reliable than XP, and XP is getting old.
15:15 Electricguy well, XP 32 is stable as a mountain, so XP 64 really shouldn't be any worse :P
15:15 sndwrx hahah stable as a mountain.
15:15 Electricguy XP 32 is working just fine at this end
15:15 Monkeh Cprossu: I'm trying to convince you to give Win7 a chance because XP64 is a crippled, special needs edition of a crippled, special needs OS.
15:16 Electricguy never have any problems with it, and never too slow
15:16 sndwrx hahah that's rich.  Of course by wiping out the explorer shell and replacing it, you can make it /more/ stable, but.
15:16 Cprossu well windows 7 is retarded boy made for grandma.
15:16 Cprossu sndwrx: Actually
15:16 Cprossu I have an answer to that
15:16 Cprossu XP 32 SP1. Connected to the internet. Stable or not?
15:16 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9UNDwezPMY&amp;feature=relmfu  THE WORST KIND OF AUDIOPHILE
15:16 BotSteve Title: Side Mirror snaps from Bass - 4 18's 20,000watts - YouTube
15:17 Monkeh Cprossu: Is there a firewall in the way?
15:17 Seroster One that pays ten thousand dollars for a sound system that you cant even play music through
15:17 Electricguy who's using XP SP1? :P
15:17 Cprossu Monkeh: it's actually on the DMZ side (orange network)
15:17 Cprossu my garrysmod server
15:17 Monkeh Cprossu: Still, does it have a firewall preventing the entire damn internet from spreading it wide?
15:18 sndwrx Seroster: That's not an audiophile.
15:18 Cprossu Monkeh: netbios is filtered
15:18 Electricguy that's a bassoholic :P
15:18 Seroster A different end of the spectrum
15:18 Cprossu but that's about it
15:18 Seroster It's like an alcoholic and a stoner, they are both addicted
15:18 Monkeh Cprossu: So yes. In that case, yes, it's stable so long as garry's fail doesn't cause issues.
15:19 Cprossu and it doesn't.
15:19 sndwrx Stoners aren't necessarily addicted.
15:19 Cprossu now you're dissing my games too
15:19 Cprossu =P
15:19 Monkeh Cprossu: No, even I have it.
15:19 Monkeh Cprossu: It's just not the most.. stable, of engines, and Garry's Mod exists purely to fuck around with the physics and do dodgy things.
15:19 Cprossu yes
15:19 Cprossu that's why it's fun.
15:19 sndwrx At any rate, stability can't be made example by a box that runs a single purpose.
15:20 Cprossu it used to be my full time laptop
15:20 Cprossu and has the original os install
15:20 Cprossu from 2006.
15:20 sndwrx hahah a Windows installation that hasn't been reinstalled twice annually.
15:20 * sndwrx snickers.
15:20 Cprossu http://oi40.tinypic.com/ibi980.jpg
15:20 Cprossu ^ sndwrx
15:21 Electricguy what sane person uses a laptop as a primary machine? XD ok if it's a Dell XPS machine, but otherwise... XD
15:21 Cprossu it was a good machine at the time
15:21 Cprossu Mobile A64, mobility radeon 9600, 2gb of ram
15:21 sndwrx And it's only received 39GB of data in well over a year?
15:22 Cprossu and I said primary laptop
15:22 Cprossu not primary desktop
15:22 Electricguy a desktop computer is pretty far from being a laptop :P
15:22 sndwrx Electricguy: My laptop is my main machine.
15:22 Electricguy O_O
15:22 Cprossu you should see how beat up that laptop is
15:22 Cprossu lol
15:23 Electricguy *runs away*
15:23 Electricguy XD
15:23 sndwrx Which reminds me, I have to get some parts for my Toughbook.
15:23 Electricguy i REALLY hope for your own safety that's it's not a HP pavillion DV9000
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15:23 Cprossu sndwrx: probably not going to get much more traffic though
15:23 Cprossu because it's not my main gmod server anymore
15:23 sndwrx I wouldn't use HP computers if my life depended on it.
15:23 Cprossu switched that out a few weeks ago
15:24 Cprossu now it's where I test new versions of addons
15:24 sndwrx Their business class printers, meh so/so.  I'm not fond of them for "personal computing" products, however.
15:24 Electricguy i don't know how many DV9000 laptops i have tried to fix at work! o_O
15:24 Electricguy got like a 1 meter high pile with them, all broken
15:24 Cprossu now I am running a c2d 1.83 with foxconn mobo which was wrapped in cling wrap which I found at a goodwill and somehow it still works.
15:24 Cprossu decent $20 find
15:25 Cprossu breakfast time
15:25 sndwrx My laptop is 1.83GHz Core2Duo.
15:26 Electricguy AMD Athlon X64 x2 black edition at this end. overclocked to 3.1GHz
15:27 sndwrx ... mine was free.  :>
15:28 Electricguy my computer costed me 50 bucks XD
15:28 sndwrx Not bad for $50
15:28 Electricguy ASUS mobo, some nVidia GPU, 1TB HDD and 2GB RAM
15:28 sndwrx That's how much I just paid for a Toughbook P3 1GHz.
15:28 * sndwrx snickers.
15:28 Electricguy was my personal computer in school
15:29 Electricguy that's a nice price for a toughbook
15:29 sndwrx It's in great shape, too.
15:29 Electricguy nice!
15:29 sndwrx My only qualm is that it doesn't have the backlit keyboard.
15:29 Electricguy i really want a toughbook
15:29 sndwrx Oh and it doesn't have the factory GPS option, either.
15:30 Electricguy oh, snap
15:30 Electricguy fun fact, 3 years ago, my primary computer was a Compaq deskpro EN! XD
15:30 sndwrx Otherwise it has the larger touchscreen, case is in great shape (doesn't look like it's been schlepped through a bombing range)
15:30 Electricguy 800MHz P3, 512MB RAM and 20GB HDD XD
15:30 sndwrx ha.
15:31 Electricguy the chipset in that machine only supports 512MB RAM
15:31 Electricguy tossed that machine away some weeks ago :P
15:31 Electricguy NEVER going to miss it. lol
15:31 sndwrx I ran two IBM NetFinity machines as a server and a primary up until a few years ago.  Dual PII 233MHz Slot 1
15:31 Electricguy WOW XD
15:32 sndwrx One of them was slowly upgraded through the ranks to, uh.. PIII 350MHz?
15:32 sndwrx Pretty sure it was 350 though I can't remember.
15:32 Electricguy i had a Compaq proliant PII server machine as my primary machine some years ago :P
15:32 Electricguy 600MHz PII
15:32 CaptainNiobe you guys are making me jealous... lol... :D
15:32 sndwrx I also ran a FreeBSD server on an itty bitty Compaq iPaq for years.
15:33 Electricguy had a 8 disk SCSI RAID stack with 2.1GB drives XD
15:33 sndwrx Celeron 500MHz 512MB
15:33 sndwrx Which was later upgraded to some 8--MHz P3.
15:33 Electricguy hehehe oki :P
15:33 Electricguy i don't like Celeron CPUs
15:33 Electricguy they are SO SLOW
15:33 sndwrx Ah yeah, that's one reason why I loved the NetFinity, so much SCSI.
15:34 Electricguy hehehe :P
15:34 Electricguy i tossed away an old 20 disk SCSI RAID stack some weeks ago XD
15:34 Electricguy from my Sun ultra enterprise 450 server
15:34 Electricguy all the disks were 18GB and dead anyways, so it wasn't really a loss XD
15:35 sndwrx Sure it was.
15:35 sndwrx HDD speakers!  :D
15:35 Electricguy LOL XD
15:36 Electricguy the Sun got a extreme casemod and it now got a ASUS mATX mobo in it :P
15:36 Electricguy housing my home server
15:36 sndwrx aha
15:37 Electricguy the Sun box could have had a worse life. cause if didn't grap it it would have ended up as a living room table XD
15:37 Electricguy and i even got a use for the weird PSUs from the Sun machine :P
15:38 Electricguy the PSUs are split into a primary and secondary switching board
15:38 Electricguy i basically split them, hooked a beafy series resistor on the primary switcher board and got myself a nice HV PSU :P
15:39 Electricguy around 2kV!
15:39 Electricguy pretty high for a computer PSU
15:39 Electricguy can draw like 3 inch arcs with it. hehe
15:43 sndwrx hhah nice.
15:44 Cprossu PIII 350?! not likely.
15:46 sndwrx Could have been 400MHz.  I know it was between there.
15:46 sndwrx Slot 1, not socket.
15:46 Cprossu yes I know
15:46 Cprossu I thought PIII's started @ 450
15:46 Cprossu unless it was some weird laptop or otherwise
15:46 sndwrx Looks like they--yeah.
15:47 Cprossu if it was 350-400 though I'd bet on PII
15:47 sndwrx I don't recall it being 450MHz, but must have been because I remember being so excited to finally move into a PIII when my friends already had P4.  :P
15:47 Cprossu lol you had something on the people who bought P4's though
15:47 sndwrx I just know I slowly migrated through PIIs starting at 2xxMHz.
15:47 Cprossu 233mhz would have been the first
15:48 sndwrx But no, not a laptop.  IBM NetFinity.  I'd like to see a laptop with Slot 1 processor, haha.
15:48 Cprossu sndwrx: you'd be surprised
15:48 Cprossu some existed and they were the size of...
15:48 Cprossu well... the thickness of 2 thick textbooks
15:48 sndwrx You're telling me somewhere in the world there were laptops with nintendo cartrige sized processors?
15:49 sndwrx pics or it didn't happen.
15:49 * sndwrx snickers.
15:49 Cprossu 'was a toshiba
15:49 Cprossu and honestly I can't call it a laptop
15:49 Cprossu more like a luggable
15:50 Electricguy a portable personal computer! ;P
15:50 sndwrx Peanut butter and jelly sandwich for breakfast.
15:50 Cprossu I've only seen one in the flesh though heh
15:50 Cprossu (looking for pics on google now)
15:51 sndwrx So does anyone have anything in mind for Black Friday?
15:52 Cprossu newegg + a new netbook.
15:52 sndwrx I haven't bothered looking at ads because I don't have any money for frivolous things, unfortunately.
15:52 sndwrx Although I do need some new workstation equipment.
15:52 Cprossu I am not going out for early BF this year
15:52 Cprossu screw it.
15:53 dr_jkl argh
15:53 Cprossu I usually do fry's electronics black friday but I don't want to get sick this year
15:54 sndwrx Get sick?
15:54 Cprossu as in a cold
15:54 sndwrx Is avian flu going around again?
15:54 sndwrx haha.
15:54 sndwrx You mean standing around in line for hours to get into the store.
15:55 Cprossu yes. by standing around for hours I mean 5PM thanksgiving to open.
15:55 Cprossu I even ate thanksgiving dinner once at the fry's electronics line.
15:55 sndwrx Is  Fry's that popular?
15:55 Cprossu yes. it's geek heaven.
15:56 sndwrx I'm familiar with what Fry's is, but it just doesn't seem like it would be necessary to camp out like that.
15:56 Cprossu well they usually offer insane deals
15:56 sndwrx I haven't done the black Friday scramble in years, anyway.
15:56 Cprossu like back in the day a 1080P projection 55" panasonic TV for $77
15:56 Cprossu *$777
15:57 Cprossu for $77 someone woulda been murdered
15:57 Cprossu this was back when the cheapest 1080p tv period was like ~$1400
15:58 Cprossu I got a 2tb seagate 5900rpm hdd for $39 there
15:58 Cprossu several $20 and less cases
15:58 Cprossu oooh a $50 corsair 750watt psu one year
15:59 Cprossu basically it's where I got $2500 worth of stuff for $900 every year.
15:59 sndwrx nice
15:59 wannabe-zz we did meijer black friday last year....went and waited....tj grabbed a 2tb hdd for like $50 or something
15:59 Cprossu and when I'd stock up on things like cases, hard drives, burners, and sometimes CPU/mobo's
15:59 wannabe-zz i grabbed batman wii game for 10 :D
15:59 sndwrx Seems like the last time I did anything for BF, I got 32MB EDO SIMMs for $10 each.
15:59 * sndwrx chuckles.
15:59 sndwrx mornin' wannabe-zz
16:00 * Cprossu laughs that ain't bad
16:00 wannabe-zz hi....i over slept o.O
16:00 SparkyProjects wannabe sell it to Batman for $20 :D
16:00 wannabe1987 i gave it to my brother for christmas
16:00 wannabe1987 :D
16:00 wannabe1987 or his birthday....its right next to christmas
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16:01 Cprossu I remember in 1994 getting a 4MB 72pin simm for the incredibly low price of $65. Now that much buys you 12GB.
16:03 sndwrx ha
16:05 wannabe1987 sndwrx: i got my mcc acceptance letter....except i'm going to decline cuz i'm moving far far far away :P
16:05 Cprossu I got my craftsman loud as hell direct drive oil filled compressor last black friday
16:06 Cprossu was def worth all of the $69 I payed for it
16:06 sndwrx What are you going back to school for, wannabe1987 ?
16:07 wannabe1987 i was gonna do EMT b/c i couldn't find work....but now i'm looking for WORK WORK WORK
16:07 * angy fondles Seroster
16:07 * sndwrx nods.
16:07 sndwrx Did I hear somewhere that GRCC has a good EMT program?
16:08 wannabe1987 probably
16:08 wannabe1987 i need to find a job first....unless i get good scholarships that pay rent too
16:10 sndwrx Pell grants can assist with living expenses too.
16:11 wannabe1987 yeah...i need to talk to a student loan company and put it into forebearnace first :P
16:11 sndwrx That's the nice thing about grants--they aren't loans.
16:12 wannabe1987 yep
16:15 * wannabe1987 gets going
16:15 sndwrx Headed out?
16:15 wannabe-afk i was told if i went to the butcher shop i'd recieve free meat
16:15 sndwrx cool
16:16 wannabe-afk considering he gave me a bag of jerky last night and theres like two pieces left.....i would like more ! :P
16:16 sndwrx ha
16:16 wannabe-afk besides i might get to see my step-cousins....i rarely see them :(
16:16 sndwrx Oh that would be nice.
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16:18 wannabe-afk ah shit....my camera screen is cracking :(  might have to start using the old camera i never did autopsy :P
16:18 wannabe-afk bye!
16:19 sndwrx Have fun
16:19 dbshortwave old dotty printer is still working
16:19 sndwrx Dot matrix printer?
16:19 dbshortwave yeah
16:20 sndwrx nice
16:20 tonsofpcs old? I have a relatively new one...
16:20 dbshortwave panasonic kx-p1180
16:20 sndwrx I may still have my first printer, some old Epson dot matrix circa early '80s.
16:21 dbshortwave wanna stress one out
16:21 dbshortwave print a picture lol
16:21 sndwrx haha
16:21 Cprossu I have a centronix printer
16:21 Cprossu xD
16:21 dbshortwave i was thinking of parting it
16:22 tonsofpcs Cprossu: do you have a wang to go with it?
16:22 Cprossu yes.
16:22 dbshortwave but this things still working good
16:22 Cprossu 2 wangs =P
16:22 tonsofpcs stress one out? my Imagewriter II loved printing pictures
16:22 Cprossu I even have the wang keys that go with them
16:22 tonsofpcs I hate the KX-P1180 though
16:23 tonsofpcs it ignores your font settings half the timee
16:23 Cprossu one is running novell netware server 3.11 IIRC
16:23 dbshortwave i had an imagewriter II i wish it worked with windows lol
16:23 Cprossu it's been a decade since I last booted that machine up
16:24 Cprossu you can make it work in 'doze
16:24 tonsofpcs dbshortwave: it does.  Windows even used to come with drivers for it (at least til 95, idk about after)
16:24 dbshortwave what did it use to plug into it the i-favce was diffrent
16:25 Cprossu it's serial
16:26 Cprossu or was it
16:26 Cprossu all I recall was
16:26 Cprossu that you can make it work
16:26 Cprossu and there was a cable that made it work
16:26 tonsofpcs you could use an apple modem cable for it iirc
16:26 Cprossu yeah serial.
16:27 tonsofpcs also, the II could be network-attached
16:27 tonsofpcs although idk if windows could deal with that
16:27 Cprossu and so could the IIgs =D
16:27 Cprossu ahhh
16:27 Cprossu but yeah you can use a serial interface driver
16:28 sndwrx idunno nothin' 'bout old printers.
16:28 sndwrx haha.
16:29 tonsofpcs they still make dot matrix printers with serial interfaces
16:29 dbshortwave im sure XP has drivers
16:30 dbshortwave just have to tell it what port
16:30 tonsofpcs and if you want to print text, well, you don't need a drive
16:30 tonsofpcs r
16:32 Cprossu all you need to know about old printers: If it's got the name "panasonic" on it, it will jam, if it's got the name "citizen" on it, it's a damn cool printer ahead of it's time that makes really cool noises but is dog slow, if it's got the name "hp" on it, it will refuse to draw paper up until you use rubber restorer on it's feeding rollers, if it's got the name "epson" on it, it will set fire to paper at random intervals if it's dot mat
16:32 dbshortwave ROFLMQO
16:33 Cprossu and if it's a STAR, it will be the last printer working after the nuclear holocaust in the fallout world.
16:34 Cprossu I know I missed quite a few brands there (okidata for an instance) but at least you got a laugh
16:38 egrsteve|away ERROR LP0 on FIRE
16:38 Cprossu line printers go by different standards though xD
16:39 * egrsteve|away activates lurk mode
16:39 Cprossu soooooo taking a needed day off egrsteve|away?
16:40 * egrsteve|away is inlurk mode
16:40 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I never had issues with my 9pin Epson
16:40 * Cprossu gets that but are you having a day off?
16:40 tonsofpcs if it's a STAR it'll stop working due to heat issues.
16:40 Cprossu ok I will admit that the 9 pin epsons were pretty solid
16:40 Cprossu the 24pins were not though
16:41 egrsteve|away yes, I have a day off
16:41 Cprossu woot.
16:41 tonsofpcs the 24 pins couldn't even feed paper in to be able to set them on fire
16:41 Cprossu no, the head overheated
16:42 Cprossu then some paper would crinkle up
16:42 Cprossu and it would be hot enough to set it on fire
16:42 Cprossu happened to me more than once
16:42 Cprossu (had a large format epson color dot matrix)
16:42 tonsofpcs erm... the only way to get paper to properly feed into the 24-pins is pin-feed.
16:43 tonsofpcs if you're pin feeding, it shouldn't get caught unless you're doing somethin worng
16:44 Cprossu I was using continuous paper with the perforated holes if thats what you mean
16:44 sndwrx Tractor feed/pin feed.
16:44 sndwrx Yes.
16:46 Cprossu tonsofpcs: my epson also chewed up it's feed gears a few times come to think of it
16:47 Cprossu tonsofpcs: what I miss most though is I used to have an old diablo wheelwriter printer
16:47 Cprossu it was so quiet, nice, and the text was clean =D
16:49 egrsteve|away selectric
16:50 tonsofpcs heh
16:51 egrsteve|away never had one, but theybare cool
16:51 tonsofpcs yay daisywheels
16:51 tonsofpcs is my commodore printer a diasy wheel?
16:51 tonsofpcs I know I had at least one...
16:55 CaptainNiobe i wish i _had_ a printer... or at least the ink to run it...
16:57 Cprossu si egrsteve|away I've been thinking
16:57 Cprossu *so
16:58 Cprossu *takes on jermy clarkson voice from top gear* building our own chryon, "How hard could that be?"
16:58 Cprossu *or helps if I spell it right though Chyron*
16:58 Cprossu anyway if I get it working I'll call it a CryOn.
17:00 egrsteve|away it will need frame buffers and lots of alteras
17:00 egrsteve|away you can never have too many alteras
17:02 Cprossu I want a purely PC solution if possible.
17:02 Cprossu I think we've got the power to do it
17:02 Cprossu added lag to the stream shoudln't be more than 1/2 a second.
17:02 Cprossu so an audio buffer may have to be added
17:04 egrsteve|away just add more alteras then it can be real time
17:04 egrsteve|away or composite it in saturn/jupiter with a key channel
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17:05 Cprossu I hate alteras after what we went through with all the systems
17:05 Cprossu I want something with literal off the shelf parts
17:05 egrsteve|away i know :)
17:05 Cprossu got any ideas?
17:06 egrsteve|away nvidea makes some nice stuff, if you have the money
17:06 Cprossu well let's pretend whole system < $850 for now
17:06 Cprossu as opposed to $850/card
17:06 egrsteve|away not 10k gpu?
17:07 Cprossu we have poweful cpu's and powerful cap cards, this should be do-able with today's tech.
17:07 Cprossu at near realtime
17:08 egrsteve|away if we key in jupiter and just create motion overlays and not process live video we can be real time
17:08 egrsteve|away the trick is dual synced composite outputs
17:08 Cprossu true
17:08 Cprossu oooh that reminds me
17:09 Cprossu egrsteve|away can you lookup a program called camtwist?
17:09 egrsteve|away ttyl, lunchteim
17:09 Cprossu lol I don't have a mac
17:09 Cprossu at the moment
17:09 Cprossu and don't feel like doing an osx install on a pc
17:12 Monkeh Cprossu: And let it remain that way. ;)
17:14 astro73|mal idk. i feel like the geek group isn't complete without at least one hackintosh
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17:16 Cprossu Monkeh: if we get a piece of software that prevents me from doing 82 hours of coding then so be it
17:22 Monkeh astro73|mal: Hackintoshes aren't geeky.
17:23 Cprossu no but we need to have one there because someone told us not to, it's an authority thing...
17:24 Monkeh Because it's legally grey?
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17:29 Cprossu possibly. but in my case it's to save 82 potential hours of coding...maybe
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17:34 Cprossu if an idiot with a mac can add graphics and text to live streaming video I can too =P
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17:39 lwq1996 hi...usually i would be jumped with hi's
17:39 Seroster Hello there SuperPhosphate
17:39 lwq1996 hi seroster
17:40 SuperPhosphate Hello
17:41 Seroster How are you?
17:42 SuperPhosphate Im very well thankyou
17:42 angy Seroster!
17:42 Seroster Oh no, A frenchman!
17:42 * wannabe1987 went to bens butcher shop and got goose jerky, hotsticks and brats :D
17:42 wannabe1987 for free
17:42 Cprossu holy crap it's angy!
17:42 SuperPhosphate Today I was cutting out pics from my old gardening magazines
17:42 * angy throws a snail toward Seroster
17:42 wannabe1987 angy!
17:43 * Seroster shoots the snailskeet
17:43 dbshortwave damnitsonofabitchwhoreslut
17:43 lwq1996 how for free?
17:43 lwq1996 and brats?
17:43 * Cprossu asks angy if he's got any more snails
17:43 wannabe1987 because he's my uncle
17:43 angy wannabe1987!
17:43 wannabe1987 db whats up?
17:43 angy I'm afraid no Cprossu
17:43 SuperPhosphate I have some snails if anyone wants sone
17:43 wannabe1987 yes, brauts?  brats?  :shrug:
17:43 lwq1996 oh
17:43 Cprossu awwwww they are so tasty though :(
17:43 dbshortwave how in the hell is this digital coaxial input work?
17:43 Seroster And wannabe1987, you can't mention theese three words in one sentence without me saying "Hey brat, jerk my hot stick"
17:43 Cprossu (the snails that is)
17:43 wannabe1987 ok
17:44 SuperPhosphate I can find them behind the plants huddled near the house wall
17:44 lwq1996 wannabe i was about to say, YOUR UNCLE BUTCHERS KIDS
17:44 Cprossu SuperPhosphate but are yours from france?
17:45 sndwrx mmmm, Maui caramacs.
17:45 SuperPhosphate not right now but once they were (as in the Netherlands was controlled by France way back when)
17:45 lwq1996 IM BORED
17:45 wannabe1987 they're call bratwurst, so shortened its brats
17:45 dbshortwave im not
17:45 lwq1996 lol ok
17:46 wannabe1987 i have a car to pack up o.O
17:46 wannabe1987 except anything that might freeze, down to 28 tonight :(
17:46 lwq1996 browser why you no respond!
17:46 egrsteve|away ???\?
17:46 dbshortwave fun
17:46 wannabe1987 .yuno
17:46 BotSteve Cat: Y U NO SPEEK ENGRISH?????????
17:47 sndwrx haha cat
17:47 lwq1996 lol
17:47 wannabe1987 MROW!
17:47 wannabe1987 mrow?  exor674
17:47 * exor674 licks wannabe1987
17:47 wannabe1987 see?  i gots a cat on irc :D
17:47 lwq1996 o.o where did you lick her?
17:47 * wannabe1987 pets kitty on head
17:48 wannabe1987 my hand, see?  *holds up wet spot on hand*
17:48 exor674 nose :P
17:48 exor674 or that
17:48 lwq1996 lol
17:48 dbshortwave figured that out
17:48 wannabe1987 haha we should coordinate these things
17:48 wannabe1987 my shoes got bloody on teh bottom :(  poor dead animals
17:48 sndwrx My cat is trying to lick my hand because I'm eating.
17:48 wannabe1987 YOU HAS KITTAH!?
17:49 * lwq1996 restrains wannbe
17:49 sndwrx two
17:49 wannabe1987 O.o
17:49 * wannabe1987 loves kittahs, but my allergies don't :(
17:49 lwq1996 dont hug them to death :P
17:49 sndwrx oh, too bad.
17:49 sndwrx Yeah, Elmira.
17:49 wannabe1987 i love em anyway :P
17:49 wannabe1987 thats what allergy pills are for
17:50 lwq1996 lol
17:51 wannabe1987 :nod:
17:52 wannabe1987 FACEBOOK: Y U NO LOAD
17:52 * Cprossu goes and grabs his kitteh
17:52 lwq1996 IK WANNAB E
17:53 lwq1996 hehe cprossu has a pussy :P
17:53 Cprossu she can has a cheesburger too @ lwq1996 =P
17:54 lwq1996 lol
17:54 wannabe1987 i like failblog better :P
17:54 Cprossu (in fact she did the first day I had her)
17:54 BotSteve Cprossu got a pussy? :O
17:54 sndwrx My cat doesn't get "snacks", but she sure looks like she's been eating burgers.
17:54 Cprossu Seroster stop it =P
17:55 BotSteve Cprossu I mean, you ARE a bit of a pussy, but...
17:55 Seroster What? I'm innocent!
17:55 lwq1996 whos mssing with the bot
17:55 Cprossu oh stfu Seroster lol
17:55 angy Seroster's cats are nice =)
17:55 wannabe1987 ...............
17:55 BotSteve Seroster has ben messing around a fair bit with me, RAWR
17:55 Seroster I thought we agreed to tell nobody!
17:55 lwq1996 lol
17:55 BotSteve Sorry hun :(
17:56 wannabe1987 been*
17:56 Seroster NOW GO DO THE LAUNDRY
17:56 wannabe1987 poor BotSteve :(
17:56 * Cprossu signs petition to revoke Seroster's bot rights
17:56 Seroster Lol
17:56 * wannabe1987 signs same petition
17:56 lwq1996 lol
17:57 * angy signs Seroster's cheek
17:57 lwq1996 cheeky arnt we?
17:57 SuperPhosphate Who wants to do my dishes?
17:57 wannabe1987 me!
17:57 wannabe1987 i like doing dishes!
17:57 lwq1996 why wannabe
17:57 Seroster SuperPhosphate, Your husband does.
17:57 wannabe1987 because
17:58 lwq1996 atleast get some money
17:58 SuperPhosphate I wish
17:58 SuperPhosphate !
17:58 Cprossu yay new fukushima pictures! http://cryptome.org/eyeball/daiichi-111911/daiichi-111911.htm
17:58 BotSteve Title: Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station 19 November 2011
17:59 wannabe1987 SuperPhosphate: you wish you had a husband or you wish he liked to do dishes....
17:59 SuperPhosphate I wish hubby would buy me a dishwasher!!
18:00 wannabe1987 ahhhh
18:00 SuperPhosphate He keeps hinting for a french maid
18:00 wannabe1987 ...
18:00 wannabe1987 ANGY!
18:01 angy that's me
18:02 wannabe1987 you can be SuperPhosphate's french maid!
18:02 lwq1996 hey cprossu what is the state of the fukushima power plant, i havent heard anything lately
18:02 angy I think injektion won't agree with thta
18:02 dbshortwave awesome
18:03 dbshortwave figured out the atari
18:03 mashpriborintorg There just a tv doc right now about the fukushima liquidators
18:03 SuperPhosphate Ah perfect!
18:03 Cprossu lwq1996: core 1 melted down, 10-15% of fuel remaining in RPV.
18:03 lwq1996 ah
18:03 Cprossu lwq1996: core 2 melted down, hopefully 30% of fuel remaining in RPV.
18:03 lwq1996 ok
18:03 Cprossu lwq1996: core 3 damaged beyone repair, hopefully most of fuel remaining in RPV.
18:04 mashpriborintorg they hire elderly people to do the nasty work
18:04 SuperPhosphate It seems that the japanese power plant workers didnt do all their checks over the years properly
18:04 lwq1996 damn
18:04 Cprossu none of us will know for sure until they lower a camera down into the drywell...errr... used-to-be-drywell
18:05 lwq1996 lol
18:05 Cprossu and people will shit bricks when they lower a camera into the rpv(any of them)
18:06 lwq1996 they will also run for their lives
18:06 Cprossu We didn't have the sand packing that the RBMK reactors had so we should see something rather interesting in the melted fuel
18:07 lwq1996 cool
18:07 SuperPhosphate like what?
18:07 Cprossu it'll be fun to find out how far down it went.
18:07 Cprossu well in chernobyl the molten mass mixed with sand to form glass
18:07 SuperPhosphate cool
18:07 SuperPhosphate Im going to look that up
18:07 Cprossu it also decreased the uranium density
18:07 angy it also vaporized quite a lot in air
18:07 Cprossu to the point that criticality wasn't an issue
18:08 Cprossu this didn't happen at fukushima,
18:08 Cprossu though we still don't know how the MOX fuel behaved in core 3
18:08 Cprossu it could have complicated things
18:09 Cprossu (other than the release of more nasty stuff that is)
18:09 Cprossu the real heavy shit didn't vaporize though @ angy
18:09 Cprossu but a lot of the so called core inventory (that is stuff other than uranium) did.
18:10 angy erm... given the mass of the remaining things, most of it vaporized
18:10 Cprossu most of the heavy stuff went down angy
18:10 Cprossu the steam explosion blew both the top and bottom caps off
18:11 Cprossu moved the bottom cap like 5 meters down
18:11 wannabe1987 http://cunicode.com/one-coffee-cup-a-day/
18:11 wannabe1987 o.O
18:11 BotSteve Title: One Coffee Cup a Day | 30 Days 30 Cups | cunicode
18:11 wannabe1987 theres one with an eiffel tower in it!
18:12 * wannabe1987 needs to go do stuff....bbl
18:14 * Cprossu signs a 'real' petition to BatSteve / BatSteve-Away to add forced "message by X" statements to BotSteve when someone else makes the bot say something (eg. 'Seroster says:')
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18:15 Seroster You killed IRC
18:15 Toastdude Hi
18:16 Cprossu 1 minute does not signify a irc kill.
18:16 Seroster Hello there Toastdude
18:18 Katemonster hi toast
18:18 Toastdude Kate!
18:19 Toastdude Hi Seroster!
18:19 Seroster How's you?
18:19 angy Toasty!
18:19 Toastdude I'm great, you?
18:19 Toastdude Angy!
18:20 Seroster I cussed enough at my parents fan to melt of all the grease
18:20 SuperPhosphate wah yes that fun task
18:20 SuperPhosphate was it really bad?
18:21 Toastdude Ohi SuperPhosphate!
18:21 Seroster There isnt enough cyllibles in "Yes" to convey how bad it was.
18:21 SuperPhosphate was it just the fan or also behind the oven?
18:21 lwq1996 toast how do you give someone building privliges
18:22 lwq1996 toastdude
18:22 Toastdude type /grant <user> build
18:22 lwq1996 doh
18:22 lwq1996 oh
18:22 Toastdude I was typing....
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18:23 angy hi tlockley
18:23 tlockley hey angy
18:24 Toastdude Hi tlockley
18:24 tlockley afternoon Toastdude
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18:24 tlockley anything good on the stream this weekend?
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18:26 Cprossu hv weekend tlockley
18:26 Cprossu did anyone switch the stream feed?
18:26 tlockley no
18:26 tlockley weather cam atm
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18:27 Cprossu well lets' see what's going on around the lab
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18:27 tlockley you at the lab Cprossu ?
18:27 Cprossu nope
18:28 * tlockley mhmm
18:28 Cprossu I see sparking in HV though
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18:28 tlockley how did you change feeds?
18:28 Cprossu at least for a moment
18:28 Cprossu magic.
18:28 tlockley yes... magic
18:28 Cprossu the wild kidwell is there
18:29 tlockley heh
18:29 tlockley how are you controlling the saturn?
18:29 Cprossu tcpip
18:29 tlockley are you just sending raw commands to the unit?
18:30 Cprossu I wish
18:30 Cprossu ok will leave in hvl for now
18:30 tlockley cool, tks
18:30 Cprossu ooooh it was HIS tc that was sparking
18:30 Cprossu cool.
18:31 tlockley Though i am still curious as to how you are controlling the saturn from afar
18:31 egrsteve|away he has a magic/more magic switch
18:31 Cprossu I have access to the jupiter server, that's how.
18:31 Cprossu lol more/magic
18:32 egrsteve|away it's curretnly on more magic
18:32 Cprossu I thought we removed that last time I was there
18:32 Cprossu did you put it back egrsteve|away?!
18:32 egrsteve|away no, the system crashed
18:32 egrsteve|away it was vital
18:32 Cprossu ahhhhhh. ok.
18:32 tlockley lol
18:33 angy .cookie egrsteve|away
18:33 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve|away, I baked you a white chocolate mocha cookie!
18:34 egrsteve|away thanks
18:34 Cprossu where is my cell phone
18:34 egrsteve|away tlocklry are you fimilular wiht the magic/ more magic story
18:35 tlockley oh yes
18:35 egrsteve|away good
18:35 tlockley great story
18:35 egrsteve|away best they can figure is grnd capacitance change
18:36 tlockley which still soesent make sense to me, though i never was one for EE
18:36 tlockley *doesent
18:36 egrsteve|away who ever instaled that switch must have accidently touched a tool there and casued it
18:37 tlockley ah
18:37 Seroster Ill be very happy if anyone can find out how to get the mousepad out of an ACER extensa 5230 without permanently damaging the machine.
18:37 egrsteve|away when you have an AC siganl adding capacitance can delay it sligtly, in a computer that delay could crash it
18:37 egrsteve|away Seroster: C4
18:38 Seroster Without permanently damaging the machine.
18:38 egrsteve|away what machine?
18:38 angy .cookie Seroster
18:38 BotSteve Here you go, Seroster, I baked you a dark chocolate cranberry cookie!
18:38 angy with that
18:38 Seroster egrsteve|away, The ACER EXTENSA... DERP
18:39 egrsteve|away post C4, what machine
18:40 tlockley Seroster why do you want the trackpad out?
18:40 Seroster Because it was subject to a spill and does evil things.
18:41 tlockley is there no alternative pointing device in the laptop?
18:41 tlockley think IBM trackpoint alternative
18:41 Seroster I.E sometimes it randomly clicks the mouse, and sometimes the pointer cycles up and down over a third of the screen at 5hz
18:41 Seroster I dont give a damn about this think since I have an usb mouse
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18:41 Seroster I think the problem is a short around the wiring, if I cant fix it ill disconnect the touchpad
18:42 Seroster Either one is a better alternative than an ADHD mouse dont you think? =P
18:42 tlockley indeed, i have a similar issue with the trackpad on my ThinkPad X201
18:42 tlockley have you disabled it in the device manager for the time being?
18:43 Seroster Nope, wasnt even aware that was possible
18:43 tlockley it is, device manager and then find the pointing device that is not your usb mouse
18:43 tlockley i do it all the time on my TP
18:44 Seroster Very interesting, Ill have to find it
18:45 lwq1996 hehe...i created a penis on wom
18:45 SparkyProjects In my notebook it's Fn and F3 to disable the touchpad, it re-enables when you restart
18:46 tlockley but to physically disable the TP on your notebook Seroster. You need to remove the keyboard
18:46 Seroster FN f7 here
18:46 Seroster TYVM sparkie =)
18:46 SparkyProjects :)
18:46 Seroster How do you remove the keyboard?
18:46 egrsteve|away cmd-option-shift-Q
18:47 lwq1996 toastdude go to my realm :D
18:47 Toastdude Hold on
18:47 tlockley you need to remove the button strip at the top of the keyboard and then the KB unscrews
18:47 Toastdude No Lee.
18:47 lwq1996 why :(
18:47 tlockley Seroster: http://www.manualowl.com/m/Acer%20Computers/Extensa-5230/Download/114887
18:47 BotSteve Title: Free download for the Acer Extensa 5230 TravelMate 5330 and Extensa 5230/5630Z Service Guide
18:48 tlockley ^ repair manual
18:48 Seroster Good boy
18:48 tlockley Tks
18:48 tlockley its got everything you need
18:50 lwq1996 lol toast
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18:51 Seroster tlockley, Been to that site before?
18:51 tlockley nope, just a little google foo
18:51 tlockley but i dont recomend links untill i know where they lead
18:51 Seroster Hehe
18:51 tlockley and i did download the maunal myself
18:51 Seroster Overkill =)
18:52 tlockley thats how i do it. Plus this is what i used to get paid to do.
18:52 tlockley Now i just need to either get re-accpeted back to college or move to GR and convince chris to hire me for TGG
18:52 Seroster Hire?
18:52 Seroster If you want to get hired by anyone, talk to someone with money
18:53 mashpriborintorg the pay sucks at TGG
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18:53 astro73|mal they have pay? that's new
18:53 tlockley better than no pay
18:53 Seroster Get back to college, without college you are fucked with a captial F
18:53 mashpriborintorg the awesomeness is the pay
18:53 tlockley i know
18:54 tlockley but if that doesent happen i want to still leave the island
18:54 Seroster Rule 1, you HAVE to have an education
18:54 Seroster I kinda noticed that and got back in college at age 19 =P
18:54 Seroster I could be out earning well over three grand a month now
18:56 SparkyProjects We don't need no education
18:56 SparkyProjects We dont need no thought control
18:56 SparkyProjects No dark  sarcasm in the classroom
18:56 SparkyProjects Teachers leave them kids alone
18:56 tlockley well i left college at 19 cause i could convinc myself the money was worth it, but now that i have been laid off i need something to go
18:56 tlockley *do
18:56 tlockley SparkyProjects i totally agree
18:56 tlockley I really am only going back for the degree
18:56 Seroster Sadly the world doesnt work like that
18:56 tlockley though i may move to bususness
18:56 tlockley just to get a degree and then do what ever i want
18:57 dbshortwave \it works
18:57 * angy-away is going back to college, hopefully
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18:59 tlockley really angy, what for?
18:59 angy yet another degree
18:59 angy I'm making a collection of them
18:59 tlockley in what field?
18:59 angy industrial maintenance
18:59 tlockley cool... i guess
19:00 wannabe-afk packing is like a puzzle....what piece of luggage or stuff fits best where....:P
19:00 angy it has to be
19:00 tlockley well i am afk for a bit. friend just got on island
19:01 angy .cookie Seroster
19:01 BotSteve Here you go, Seroster, I baked you a dark chocolate cranberry cookie!
19:01 Seroster tlockley|away, Cool, it says i can pry the speakers thing off with a butterknife
19:01 yNos hiya all
19:01 Seroster The godo thing with those sites is that you don't have to learn the hard way that "Holy crap there WAS a screw holding that expensive piece of plastic!"
19:01 wannabe-afk hi yNos
19:02 yNos are they still doing HV weekend?
19:02 yNos or is it over?
19:02 angy hello yNos
19:02 wannabe-afk i would assume so, but i can't get on the stream
19:02 yNos wannabe, Angy, how are things?
19:02 wannabe-afk internet sucks
19:02 wannabe-afk they go.  puzzle = packing a car....
19:02 SparkyProjects yNos, there's activity in HVL so i would guess it's still going on
19:03 wannabe-afk i got free venison things (hot sticks, brauts, jerky) from my uncle's shop :D
19:03 angy great, I'm hopefully going to add another degree on my collection
19:03 wannabe-afk lol
19:03 yNos a Phd, i gather?
19:03 angy yep
19:03 wannabe-afk i'm moving to jenison tomorrow and then into an apt after that :D
19:03 yNos venison is always yummy
19:04 wannabe-afk actually, the jerky is goose
19:04 wannabe-afk but the rest is venison, i assume :P
19:05 Toastdude Hi wannabe-afk
19:05 tonsofpcs venison?
19:05 Toastdude Deer meat, right?
19:05 tonsofpcs yes
19:05 Toastdude lol
19:05 angy I hope there will be lots of conferences in USA =)
19:05 wannabe1987 i saw a cow get cut up
19:06 yNos thats how you get meat on the table..
19:06 tonsofpcs angy: what kind of conferences? when? where?
19:06 yNos cant eat it when it is standing
19:06 tonsofpcs yNos: sure you can.
19:06 tonsofpcs yNos: let's rotisserie a cow :D
19:06 angy I have no idea at all yet tonsofpcs
19:06 wannabe1987 yep
19:06 yNos SparkyProjects, i am looking at the stream, not seing anyone.. but Justin's coil is there..
19:06 tonsofpcs might I recommend vegas, and any week, and at least 4 conferences :-p
19:07 yNos i may make a roadtrip
19:07 wannabe1987 saw it get hooked and the hide cut off and yeah...
19:07 angy I'd rather go to hawaii
19:07 wannabe1987 justin wouldn't leave his coil there overnight fyi
19:07 SparkyProjects Justin had his coil running earlier, maybe they are working on Stomper in MDH
19:07 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfixjqWcOwg theres the fire   now you just need a cow  and a skewer to hold it
19:07 BotSteve Title: INSANE high voltage supply / ŠÍLENÝ zdroj VN - YouTube
19:07 tonsofpcs angy: had someone living in my dorm at school who had gonne to hawaii the year before
19:08 tonsofpcs was a very drastic change for him, from surfing all year round to  OMG SNOW in august ;)
19:08 angy most of the conferences I had to attend last year were on very nice parts of the world, you need to tease scientist to come
19:08 tonsofpcs vegas is an awesome place for conferences
19:09 angy I did not see lots of conferences in my field there
19:09 tonsofpcs when I moved here (small market), I didn't have any culture shock *until* I was at a conference in the LVCC and they announced the population _OF THE BUILDING_ and I realized that it was more than people in my market...
19:09 tonsofpcs what field?
19:10 angy bio-weird was my field
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19:10 tonsofpcs bio-weird?
19:10 angy medical/mechanical
19:10 wannabe1987 hi jess
19:10 angy bio- that it is
19:10 tonsofpcs I'd expect those sort of conferences to take places like at Columbia (NYC) or something
19:11 tonsofpcs you should just go work at brookhaven :)
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19:11 angy I'm moving fields to industrial engineering
19:11 tonsofpcs friend here is in biomech, he went to... texas? for a conference last year
19:11 tonsofpcs any specific type of industrial engineering?
19:12 angy maintenance most likely
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19:12 angy I should have more informations next week
19:13 SparkyProjects angy, you may want to aim for 'facillities management' looking after control systems, they use a lot of computing and networks.
19:13 SparkyProjects It's one of the  things i used to look after
19:13 tonsofpcs I guess what I do is technically industrial engineering maintenance... but (most of) what I deal with can't kill people other than those of us who poke and prod at it
19:13 eadthem angy you ever worked with a PLC?
19:13 angy eadthem: yes, long time ago
19:14 wannabe1987 buying zydrate from an unlicenesed source is illegal
19:14 * tonsofpcs just got a new KOHLER installed :D
19:14 angy I'm more into research than other things SparkyProjects
19:14 tonsofpcs I integrate control systems with control systems that drive control systems via control systems all day ;)
19:15 egrsteve|away sums up broadcast engineering
19:15 angy I design new procedures for other people to implement, most on that side
19:15 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: pretty much.  every once in a while I actually play with a real pot ;)
19:16 egrsteve|away or twiddle a knob
19:16 tonsofpcs I mean, I have the power to turn a knob at work and have your TV change the bias on an amplifier! Muahahahaha
19:16 SparkyProjects Ah, ok, not so good unless you want to research a better backbone for multiple control systems, we had York and Trend BMS, both used a different protocol so ran on separate head end computers, then you have all the PLC systems that could be integrated.
19:16 SparkyProjects One system we didn't use was 'bacnet'
19:17 tonsofpcs everyone in my industry that does 'research' but not testing is called "sales"
19:17 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: we have a bacnet system currently.
19:17 Cprossu so who wants to donate this? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Philips-BTS-Venus-RF-401-32-OP-96-x-96-Video-Router-Cha-/150693603949?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item231609ea6d
19:17 BotSteve Title: Philips BTS Venus RF-401 32 OP 96 x 96 Video Router Cha | eBay
19:17 egrsteve|away tgg should implement bcnet in bocsy whe the time comes
19:18 SparkyProjects We didn't use bacnet because none of the preferred systems was easily cabable of connecting to it
19:18 tonsofpcs Cprossu: rather than getting a BTS analog video router, how about moving to SDI? get a router system that auto-converts analog inputs
19:18 Cprossu true. but haven't found it yet.
19:18 tonsofpcs we have a bacnet system because the guy who was managing facilties decided to use it.
19:18 egrsteve|away bacnet can be very flexable
19:19 egrsteve|away and it's an open protocal
19:19 tonsofpcs Cprossu: NV5128 can (ni Nvision, now miranda).  I've actaully been trying to find a smaller scale system for someone else.
19:19 yNos omw over there, have fun e'ryone
19:19 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: sure, if you have software to talk to it..
19:19 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sierra-Video-Systems-Router-16x8x2-16-Inputs-8-Outputs-/190602447449?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2c60ca8a59
19:19 BotSteve Title: Sierra Video Systems Router 16x8x2 16 Inputs, 8 Outputs | eBay
19:19 Cprossu oooh that's not bad
19:19 Cprossu lol
19:20 * tonsofpcs looks to see which one that is
19:20 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/NVISION-NV5128-Multi-Format-Router-Audio-Video-Modules-and-Backplanes-Only-/130324502280?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item1e57f21708
19:20 BotSteve Title: NVISION NV5128 Multi-Format Router Audio Video. Modules and Backplanes Only. | eBay
19:20 Cprossu what the hell do they mean 'modules and backplane only'?
19:20 tonsofpcs oo, it's a component
19:20 SparkyProjects So we had 2 runs of fibre round the site (200 acres with multiple buildings)
19:20 SparkyProjects And yeah, i was pushing for bacnet, but the current system wouldn't connect, and it would have cost thousands to change, then they decided to use a different make of control, but still didn't think of specifying bacnet compatible
19:20 tonsofpcs the power supply is a separate unit
19:20 tonsofpcs i think
19:20 tonsofpcs oh, no controller
19:20 tonsofpcs that's what's separate
19:21 tonsofpcs I have a sierra 16x8, single video layer 4 audio layers
19:21 tonsofpcs that onne is 3 video layers (not sure about audio layers)
19:21 angy depending on my work load next year, I may decide to pass some time working in USA, most likely in GRR
19:22 egrsteve|away 3 layer so it could switch RGB or composite
19:22 egrsteve|away *component
19:22 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: it's set up for Y/R-Y/B-Y
19:22 tonsofpcs I don't think it will execute synchronous switches
19:22 tonsofpcs there are two entirely diifferent control mechanisms for the sierra routers
19:23 tonsofpcs one is well documented and they still sell controllers for it.  The other, well, I asked them about buying a new control panel at NAB last year and I had people giving me a look like I was insane
19:23 egrsteve|away ah ok
19:23 egrsteve|away kind if like my 20ten
19:24 tonsofpcs 20ten isn't well documented, it's just relatively standard
19:24 tonsofpcs serial protocol might be the same as my tenXL
19:24 Cprossu I wish our 20-ten was normal egrsteve|away
19:24 tonsofpcs but the 10XL isn't programmable
19:24 tonsofpcs anyway, looking at it, it appears to be video-only
19:25 egrsteve|away I sshould hook a 485 tranciver to it and open a terminal, see what i get
19:25 egrsteve|away maybe it will be obvious
19:25 tonsofpcs I can probably get the serial protocol pages out of the 10XL
19:25 egrsteve|away ascii based signaling
19:26 tonsofpcs it's got control character descriptions, etc.
19:26 tonsofpcs I think it's 7 bit code
19:26 dbshortwave heh
19:26 tonsofpcs it describes the electrical interface for the control 'characters'
19:26 egrsteve|away 7 bit thats classic ascii
19:26 egrsteve|away 127 chars
19:27 tonsofpcs if yyou're around while i'm at work this week, bug me and tell me to pull the manual and ask away, but it isn't very clear and serial was an option on the 10XL (and it wasn't configurable) so idk how much it will help
19:28 tonsofpcs I know that the 10XL supports BCD input for executing takes, but the 10XL is single-output, so it doesn't do X-Y switching or destination-based switching, it just says "ID # [1-10]", "GO"
19:28 egrsteve|away not even worth 12:50 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Videonics-MX-3000-Production-Video-Switcher-37832-289-/250933931553?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3a6cd3ee21
19:28 BotSteve Title: Videonics MX 3000 Production Video Switcher #37832-289 | eBay
19:29 tonsofpcs ugh, no
19:29 tonsofpcs look for a ForA or a DataVideo if you want to go to that type of thing
19:29 egrsteve|away my HS had one of those, it was  ajoke
19:29 tonsofpcs some of the pannys are nice, but they have nuances
19:30 tonsofpcs we used to switch hockey with one of the panasonic 4-input dual-TBC switchers.  You can't hot-punch unless everything is genlocked
19:30 tonsofpcs and even then, there's an issue with its timing circuit, and it might switch mid-frame
19:30 egrsteve|away nice
19:31 tonsofpcs so you had to get very good at timing putting something in preset then hitting auto-take
19:31 egrsteve|away also had this http://www.ebay.com/itm/Videonics-MX-1-Digital-Video-Mixer-Upgraded-Power-Supply-/330642538079?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4cfbd4be5f
19:31 BotSteve Title: Videonics MX-1 Digital Video Mixer - Upgraded Power Supply | eBay
19:31 tonsofpcs and it was an A/B switcher, not PGM/PVW so you had to change which bus you punched on every time
19:33 egrsteve|away fun
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19:36 Toastdude Hello hedgehog
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19:38 astro73|mal there has got to be a simpler way of doing this.
19:38 astro73|mal but i'm not really seeing it.
19:41 egrsteve|away cprossu ROAD TRIP http://www.ebay.com/itm/BTS-Venus-Router-Empty-352-Input-96-Output-/170586273124?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item27b7bbf564
19:41 BotSteve Title: BTS Venus Router Empty 352 Input by 96 Output AS IS | eBay
19:41 egrsteve|away wait no boards
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19:48 Cprossu lol it's closer to tonsofpcs than it is to me though
19:49 Cprossu too bad it's empty
19:49 Cprossu not even power supplies
19:49 wannabe1987 buying zydrate from an unlicenesed source is illegal
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19:49 KernelTrap new project~
19:49 KernelTrap NES controller, gutted, new PCB installed (still using the buttons of course), little SoC deal with a little lightweight linux distro and NES emulator, microSD card slot to put ROMs on
19:50 Cprossu gee I wonder where these came from egrsteve|away (rolls eyes) http://www.ebay.com/itm/Venus-AS-400-Stereo-Aud-MTX-Audio-Router-Boards-Qty-5-/200358730123?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2ea64f998b
19:50 BotSteve Title: Venus AS-400 Stereo Aud MTX Audio Router Boards (Qty 5) | eBay
19:50 egrsteve|away i saw those
19:51 egrsteve|away although those are audio not video
19:51 egrsteve|away (there were video ones too)
19:51 Cprossu yeah but point is
19:51 egrsteve|away probably can sell it for more as parts
19:51 Cprossu he gutted it
19:51 egrsteve|away which is sad
19:51 Cprossu WOW
19:51 egrsteve|away he does have a 20ten, same interace as ours
19:52 Cprossu he has a gvg 3000-2 for sale too
19:52 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grass-Valley-3000-2-Switcher-12-SDI-Inputs-20-Analog-/190306282694?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2c4f236cc6
19:52 BotSteve Title: Grass Valley 3000-2 Switcher / 12 SDI Inputs, 20 Analog | eBay
19:52 Katemonster aaaaaand now there's a blog post.   http://caspianseamonster.blogspot.com/2011/11/s-cinderella-gun.html
19:52 BotSteve Title: Excessive Headspace: The S&W Cinderella Gun
19:53 Cprossu and he's selling a m-2100 like ours too
19:53 egrsteve|away so maybe on the 20ten is a 3 wire control std
19:53 Cprossu oh god. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Grass-Valley-Kalypso-80-Input-4ME-SDI-Switcher-Loaded-/170643169239?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item27bb201fd7 <- AV porn.
19:53 BotSteve Title: Grass Valley Kalypso 80 Input 4ME SDI Switcher Loaded | eBay
19:54 egrsteve|away only 3 wire + - S i can think if is 485
19:54 egrsteve|away well ttyl, I need a nap
19:55 Cprossu one more thing egrsteve|away
19:55 Cprossu before you take nap
19:55 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Sony-DXC-D30-Triax-Camera-Pkg-w-SDI-CA-TX7-DXF-51-/190566461932?pt=Camcorders_Professional_Video_Cameras&amp;hash=item2c5ea571ec
19:55 BotSteve Title: 2 Sony DXC-D30 Triax Camera Pkg w/ SDI, CA-TX7, DXF-51 | eBay
19:55 egrsteve|away tesla coil arcing on stream just tuned lights off
19:56 * egrsteve|away sees sparks in dark
19:56 KernelTrap http://www.vortex86sx.com/ worth it?
19:56 BotSteve Title: Vortex86SX SoC
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19:59 egrsteve|away yes, nice cameras, thy would be nice
19:59 egrsteve|away whole building full of those
20:02 wannabe1987 tomorrow i get food money and can buy poptarts :D
20:03 KernelTrap wannabe1987: instead of poptarts, you should get eggs and milk and beans
20:03 KernelTrap :u
20:03 Druidic_Rifleman poptarts are that big of a concern
20:03 KernelTrap and rice, too
20:03 KernelTrap and oats
20:03 wannabe1987 and eat them in the car?  while driving?
20:03 wannabe1987 ....
20:03 KernelTrap yes!
20:03 KernelTrap boil the eggs
20:03 wannabe1987 a stick shift?
20:03 wannabe1987 HELL NO
20:03 KernelTrap peel, put in bags, just pop in your mouth as you drive
20:03 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pinnacle-Thunder-Shot-Box-Pinnacle-Thunder-DVE-/190570119518?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2c5edd415e
20:03 BotSteve Title: Pinnacle Thunder Shot Box for Pinnacle Thunder DVE | eBay
20:03 wannabe1987 i'm moving into grandmas house....she has everything else....i want my poptarts!
20:03 KernelTrap wannabe1987: poptarts take more hands to eat than eggs do
20:04 KernelTrap :v
20:04 Cprossu ^ at least that confirms my suspicion egrsteve|away... that box goes with the thunder LT's
20:04 wannabe1987 takes one hand for each....
20:04 wannabe1987 one hand for poptarts, one hand for eggs
20:04 wannabe1987 plus theres no place to boil the eggs in the car....
20:04 wannabe1987 i'm moving HOME i don't want to have to go back to michelles to boil eggs
20:05 wannabe1987 something quick and easy
20:05 Druidic_Rifleman are you driving or is someone else driving
20:05 Katemonster .weather 99004
20:05 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 26.6℉ (-3℃), 29.92in (1010mb), Light breeze 6kt (↑) - KGEG 19:53Z
20:06 wannabe1987 i'm driving my car.........
20:06 wannabe1987 full of stuff
20:06 wannabe1987 i'll get photos later
20:06 yNos exit
20:06 Cprossu DAMNIT tonsofpcs!!!!!!
20:06 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Chyron-Maxine-Charater-Generator-w-Keyboard-/200562821502?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2eb279c97e
20:06 BotSteve Title: Chyron Maxine Charater Generator w/Keyboard As Is | eBay
20:06 Cprossu ^ Why is a broken project $300?!
20:07 Cprossu hey yNos what's up?
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20:11 Toastdude Hi zimm_swe
20:12 zimm_swe hi
20:12 wannabe1987 buying zydrate from an unlicenesed source is illegal
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20:18 zimm_swe so.. whats happening?
20:18 Cprossu high voltage weekend.
20:18 zimm_swe awsome are they still in the mdh? working on stomper?
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20:19 Cprossu let me check the stream (and change cameras)
20:19 zimm_swe awsome :) seem to be a little silent in the hvl
20:20 Cprossu well the scanner is on
20:20 Cprossu we can't tell
20:20 Cprossu nothing very much going on right now it seems
20:20 zimm_swe where is everyone? :P
20:21 astro73|mal i'm here. Just busy writing gobs of code
20:22 GuardianZozo im here working on config files
20:22 zimm_swe i meant at the lab :) but anyway what are you coding?
20:22 Seroster Im reorganizing my junk
20:23 Seroster ...No, not scratching my balls
20:23 zimm_swe ^^
20:23 astro73|mal zimm_swe, adding some intelligence to BotSteve with regards to nicks, nickserv, and multiple nicks for the same person.
20:24 astro73|mal I'm up to >900 changed lines
20:24 Seroster In python!
20:24 Seroster BLERGH
20:24 zimm_swe awsome. ive never had to deal with irc-bots. what language are they written in?
20:25 zimm_swe too slow :P
20:25 astro73|mal zimm_swe, whatever language you want. BotSteve is written in python
20:25 astro73|mal I just added the ability for it to expire data and requery for it.
20:25 Seroster THIS is python
20:26 zimm_swe never used python. some seem to love it other hate it.
20:26 Seroster Wich is an annoyingly clumsy program that is about as fun as cleaning puke from a carpet.
20:26 wannabe1987 back
20:26 Seroster For room sensitive stuff in python you need a LOT of code
20:26 angy-away and you got lots of experience in the latter Seroster
20:26 Seroster In the mIRC language you just need on text*#thegeekgroup {command}
20:27 astro73|mal Seroster, it depends on the framework. The storage stuff I wrote makes it somewhat easier. And comparing it to a DSL dedicated to IRC isn't really fair
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20:29 zimm_swe hi crohakon
20:29 astro73|mal and I've never heard of a bot that will pull and maintain data from NickServ.
20:30 wannabe1987 hi zimm_swe
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20:30 Seroster astro73|mal, I have.
20:30 astro73|mal oh? which one?
20:30 zimm_swe hi wannade1987
20:30 Seroster Vectra
20:30 zimm_swe wannabe1987*
20:30 wannabe1987 hows you?
20:30 Seroster Wich I co-owned, hosted and maintained
20:31 astro73|mal is the code public?
20:31 zimm_swe im fine, just sitting doing nothing, you?
20:31 wannabe1987 been busy
20:31 Seroster There were Vectra to Vectra15, each bot had a capability of 25 channels, So it was a pretty well known bot on Swiftirc.net
20:31 crohakon hi zimm_swe
20:32 Seroster The code is not public, and it isnt in python
20:33 astro73|mal what kind of programmer do you think i am? Python isn't the only language I know. Just my favorite.
20:34 Seroster I thought you were the common kind of programmer, a lazy one hoping to copy chunks of code to make your life easier =P
20:34 wannabe1987 astro isn't lazy~!
20:34 wannabe1987 !*
20:34 Seroster Define lazy.
20:34 astro73|mal Seroster, have you seen the code i've been furiously writing the last 2 days?
20:34 wannabe1987 copying chunks of code :P  you might copy a bug!
20:35 Seroster Nope =P
20:35 wannabe1987 yesterday bats asked him when he last slept/ate cuz of all the code!
20:35 astro73|mal wannabe1987, exactly
20:35 Seroster wannabe1987, There were no bugs in the Vectra name recognition =P
20:35 Seroster We love you astro73 =)
20:35 wannabe1987 i didn't say there were
20:35 eadthem real programmers dont copy code
20:35 Seroster eadthem, But lazy ones do
20:35 astro73|mal Seroster, that makes me extra interested. Considering the amount of stuff I have to write to maintain the data
20:35 astro73|mal the lazy ones copy good code that does what the want
20:35 eadthem they use polymorphisim with it
20:35 zimm_swe real programmers write in ones and zeros
20:36 wannabe1987 lol
20:36 wannabe1987 10110000101010000111101?
20:36 astro73|mal zimm_swe, real programmers use a butterfly to move the air to focus cosmic rays to flip bits on their harddrive.
20:36 zimm_swe smart programmers copy stuff and modify
20:36 Seroster wannabe1987! THATS RUDE
20:36 Seroster If I ever see you say something that bad ill ban your ass, aight?!
20:36 wannabe1987 thats cool :P
20:36 wannabe1987 lol
20:37 Toastdude wannabe1987: What about 5788733?
20:37 Toastdude :P
20:37 wannabe1987 yes!  i love that stuff!
20:37 wannabe1987 :DS
20:37 wannabe1987 :D*
20:37 Seroster Oh you horny bastards GET A ROOM
20:37 Toastdude ....
20:37 wannabe1987 i can't...he's underage
20:37 wannabe1987 i wouldn't....cuz here in merica most people don't fuck siblings
20:38 wannabe1987 and....no boys!
20:38 astro73|mal wannabe1987, are you coming out of the closet?
20:38 wannabe1987 no
20:38 Seroster Nah, she's cumming in it.
20:38 Toastdude Lol, true on all part wannabe
20:38 Seroster Maybe that was a tad too nsfw. xD
20:38 wannabe1987 i'm swearing off dating for 6-12 months
20:39 wannabe1987 lol
20:39 wannabe1987 :shrug:
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20:40 * wannabe1987 throws dead toads at Seroster
20:41 * Seroster giggles
20:41 * Seroster throws it at angy
20:41 wannabe1987 don't!  he'll end up eating it!
20:41 Seroster Hell probably eat it.
20:41 * Toastdude throws more at Seroster
20:43 * wannabe1987 puts live ones down Seroster's shirt
20:43 wannabe1987 its sad when everyones email addy's are not in the addy book, but on facebook EEEEE
20:43 * Seroster eats them ozzy style
20:43 wannabe1987 :headdesk:
20:43 wannabe1987 ozzy style?
20:43 wannabe1987 i know ozzy osborne
20:44 wannabe1987 but he has a style?
20:44 Seroster Slept with him?
20:44 wannabe1987 no
20:44 wannabe1987 friend is a fan
20:44 wannabe1987 never heard his music tho
20:44 * wannabe1987 sleeps alone
20:45 wannabe1987 bye astro73-bot
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20:46 wannabe1987 astro73-bot hello
20:46 astro73|mal he's still muted
20:46 wannabe1987 your bot sucks
20:46 Toastdude Hi astro73-bot
20:46 Toastdude Oh..
20:46 wannabe1987 lol
20:46 wannabe1987 he sucks!
20:46 astro73|mal I always mute him here.
20:46 astro73|mal if you want to play, do it in #tgg-bots
20:46 Toastdude you can msg him though
20:46 astro73|mal yeah
20:47 Seroster LOL
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20:47 Seroster I sent her a notice at 46:50.  She dcs at 46:51
20:48 Toastdude ..... You killed her Seroster!
20:48 Toastdude YOU BASTARD!
20:48 Toastdude Jk
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20:50 wannabe1987 hi BotSteve
20:50 BotSteve Salutations wannabe1987
20:50 wannabe1987 stupid computer
20:50 wannabe1987 it was totally the computers fault
20:51 * Toastdude slaps wannabe's computer
20:51 wannabe1987 i was connected but nope, nothing wanted to connect, so disable, enable and *dada* it works!
20:54 tehdark45 wannabe1987, thats how the whole interweb works
20:54 wannabe1987 yes, i know.  but couldn't i ahve just ONE computer (out of two) that acutally *works*
20:54 wannabe1987 ???
20:54 tehdark45 How do you know its not the ISP?
20:55 wannabe1987 because all the lights are on
20:55 wannabe1987 and blinking like normal
20:55 wannabe1987 and noone else in the house seems to have the issue
20:55 tehdark45 Steal their computer?
20:55 wannabe1987 no....
20:55 wannabe1987 ewww boy bedroom
20:56 wannabe1987 i'm leaving tomorrow
20:56 tehdark45 What is it with girls and guys bedrooms?
20:59 zimm_swe its the fear of the unknown
21:00 Toastdude Angy!
21:00 angy Toasty!
21:00 * Toastdude hugs angy
21:00 * angy hugs Toastdude
21:00 Toastdude :D
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21:02 * tehdark45 hugs himself
21:02 tehdark45 forever alone
21:02 tehdark45 lol
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21:04 Toastdude tehdark45: http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/003/619/Untitled-1.jpg?1288903617
21:06 tehdark45 http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/096/044/trollface.jpg?1296494117
21:07 killaway^tuning does ennyone know what that green teslacoil on the live stream is ?
21:08 Hackbat God I felt like stabbing my brother
21:09 Cprossu that's eaken's tc iirc killakee right?
21:09 SparkyProjects killakee: it's Justin's coil
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21:09 Cprossu either way it was made with egrsteve|away's wire
21:09 killakee big one
21:09 Cprossu I see he has a more normal topload than the hollow one right now
21:09 wannabe1987 lol
21:10 Cprossu OOOH
21:10 wannabe1987 its prolly justins, cuz eakin wasn't going to be able to make it this weekend....
21:10 Cprossu they stole gemini's topload
21:10 killakee jupp
21:10 killakee look at geminis topload :)
21:10 killakee minimini :D
21:11 Cprossu tgg|yNos feel like climbing a ladder? j/k
21:11 Cprossu (he's at home iirc)
21:11 Cprossu hrmmm I wonder
21:11 killakee correct me if im wrong but is it two teslas in the back there to ?
21:12 Cprossu I am about to try something dumb here
21:12 Cprossu yeah those are gemini backups
21:12 killakee with rather smal toploads :P
21:12 killakee ah.. just in case :)
21:12 Cprossu they don't have toploads
21:12 Cprossu btw
21:12 Cprossu you are just seeing the whire of the pipe
21:13 Cprossu *white
21:13 killakee will zeus have backup ?
21:13 Toastdude They're working on Smiljan?
21:13 killakee :D
21:13 Cprossu egrsteve|away: I am about to do something dumb wish me luck
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21:13 astro73|mal Cprossu, how dumb?
21:13 Cprossu since we can't adjust the iris (fill in the blank)
21:14 tehdark45 Um is someone trying to dial up on the scanner lol
21:15 Cprossu it look better now?
21:16 Cprossu lets see a little less chroma
21:16 Cprossu little more video gain
21:17 Cprossu sweet idea worked.
21:17 Cprossu little grainy but it worked,
21:17 wannabe1987 there is a choihuahua in my lap
21:17 * Cprossu knocks down the signal a bit
21:18 Cprossu too much
21:19 Seroster AN E?!
21:19 Cprossu ok that's as good as we're gonna get when I am 1950 miles away from the controls
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21:20 Cprossu OOOH there's a selection for betacam yuv levels
21:20 Cprossu (has to try)
21:21 Cprossu I bet the other cameras look totally crap now though (lol)
21:22 tehdark45 Cprossu, make remote controls for all the live cams
21:22 Cprossu ok tehdark45 you get right on that!
21:22 Cprossu I'm making it your priority #1 project
21:23 tehdark45 umm
21:23 Cprossu contribute damn you!
21:23 Cprossu (guess it must be hard being Captain)
21:24 tehdark45 That would be fun but I dont really know robotics or live close enough
21:25 wannabe1987 chance to learn!
21:25 tehdark45 wannabe1987, see: West cos
21:25 tehdark45 coast of canada
21:26 wannabe1987 no, learn robotics!
21:26 tehdark45 not easy to go there and learn
21:26 wannabe1987 on your own, silly.  so i have to spell everything out?
21:27 astro73|mal are you a problem solver or a whiner?
21:27 Cprossu tehdark45: I had no idea what real broadcasting equipment looked like
21:27 astro73|mal you just gave yourself a problem, now solve it!
21:27 Cprossu ^ That's what happened to me, exactly
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21:28 killakee captainsblog <3
21:28 killakee back in 40 mins :D
21:29 wannabe1987 BotSteve: is it bedtime yet?
21:31 Cheezmo Looks like the 3 of these I have are a bit rare :D
21:32 Cheezmo http://www.ebay.com/itm/DOCTOR-10TH-SONIC-SCREWDRIVER-ELECTRONIC-LIGHT-SOUND-GALLIFREYAN-NOTELETS-/330639882574?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&amp;hash=item4cfbac394e
21:32 BotSteve Title: DOCTOR WHO 10TH SONIC SCREWDRIVER ELECTRONIC LIGHT & SOUND GALLIFREYAN NOTELETS | eBay
21:32 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve tehdark45 is going to make all of our cameras robotic and remote control, isn't that great?!
21:32 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
21:32 Cheezmo can't even find em in US and Canada eBays
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21:38 tehdark45 I never said I would do it
21:39 wannabe1987 lol
21:44 * wannabe1987 freezes
21:45 Cprossu I hope he knows I was kidding
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21:46 wannabe1987 lol i doln't really care honestly
21:47 Cprossu they're finally getting that coil dialed in
21:47 zimm_swe ohh sparks :)
21:47 zimm_swe can we have sound from the hvl?
21:48 Cprossu no.
21:48 Cprossu our mixer has no way of external control.
21:48 Cprossu other than calling people (and I don't want to use up my monthly limit of silly calls for this)
21:49 Isopropyl|Media so we need to make a device to help it?
21:49 Cprossu I've got the video feed up and pushed the gain with the cap card, so that's all I can do being 1,950 miles away zimm_swe
21:50 zimm_swe digital pots and an arduino with ethernet
21:50 Cprossu your source board is a old tired mackie rackmount unit.
21:50 Cprossu don't recall the model #
21:51 wannabe1987 <wannabe1987> keyboard is messed up
21:51 wannabe1987 [16:51] <wannabe1987> its in dvorak
21:52 wannabe1987 STUCK
21:52 wannabe1987 :(
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21:53 * Cprossu thinks of a funny song he could sing
21:53 tehdark45 Yes Cprossu i do know
21:53 tehdark45 :P
21:53 Cprossu glad you were lurking the log
21:53 tehdark45 lol
21:53 tehdark45 Who doesn't?
21:54 Cprossu now with that out of the way zimm_swe how do you feel about YOUR new project?
21:54 Cprossu xD
21:54 Cprossu he's going to automate our mixerboard while you automate the cameras.
21:54 tehdark45 Lol
21:54 Cprossu hahahahaha
21:55 tehdark45 Lol
21:55 tehdark45 ragequit
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21:55 wannabe1987 hi Fulsy
21:55 Cprossu good timing at least
21:55 Fulsy Hi wannabe!
21:56 Cprossu hey Fulsy what horribly overcomplicated project do you want to do to help with the stream?
21:56 * wannabe1987 types in dvorak
21:56 Fulsy Don't know, don't think I'm of much use
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21:56 Cprossu we've got tehdark45 doing camera automation and zimm_swe doing mixer automation, therefore you need something to work on too!
21:57 tehdark45 HAAS automation?
21:57 tehdark45 lol
21:57 Cprossu that's already done
21:57 Fulsy lol
21:57 tehdark45 no
21:57 tehdark45 web controled haas
21:57 Cprossu moose would murder you
21:57 Cprossu in your sleep
21:57 tehdark45 Why?
21:58 Cprossu those are her babies!
21:58 wannabe1987 lol
21:58 tehdark45 So wouldn't it be nice to have a robot button pusher?
21:58 Fulsy Web Controlled Stomper
21:58 Cprossu yes and I've needed one for years on master control
21:58 Cprossu even if there haven
21:58 Cprossu t been years
21:59 Cprossu that it's been up
21:59 tehdark45 Remote control HVL
21:59 Cprossu I also need a robot that I can remotely service pc's with
21:59 Fulsy Any good Colleges near Grand Rapids?
21:59 tehdark45 The Geek Group
21:59 tehdark45 :P
21:59 wannabe1987 remote controlled boden
22:00 Fulsy ^LOL
22:00 wannabe1987 what kind of college?
22:00 Cprossu wannabe1987 one of those would break everything in the lab in a day
22:00 wannabe1987 lol
22:00 Fulsy I don't know yet
22:00 tehdark45 Remote conteolled Billy
22:00 Fulsy But I want to get the hell out of Connecticut
22:00 Cprossu wannabe1987 one of those would set fire everything in the lab in a day
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22:00 wannabe1987 :D
22:01 Cprossu * @ tehdark45
22:01 astro73|mal ok, hopefully i got it down really good.
22:01 wannabe1987 there calvin, but its christian.  theres community college, which is good.  davenport, aquinas, part of ferris state univ, cornerstone,
22:01 tehdark45 Cprossu, what?
22:01 Fulsy I want to get myself a job there, get a small apartment, and Join TGG
22:01 astro73|mal I'm going to let that run for a while and see if it crashes and burns
22:01 * wannabe1987 needs to fix her keyboard...its stuck in dvorak. copy/pasta SUCKS
22:02 Cprossu And we really do need a remote control Cprossu to put behind in a "Break glass in case of emergency" case
22:02 wannabe1987 mh
22:02 wannabe1987 mhm*
22:02 wannabe1987 I FIXED IT!
22:03 tehdark45 Break glass in case of AV meltdown Steve.
22:03 wannabe1987 my keyboard shortcuts are different on each computer :(
22:03 tehdark45 lol
22:03 Fulsy Remote controlled solid state Bodens
22:03 Cprossu the last time we tried to make one for emergency use we blew up a air cooled 3-phase rectifier
22:03 tehdark45 Cprossu, if your Kidwell you blow up oil cooled ones
22:03 tehdark45 :P
22:03 Fulsy Tube-Type Bodens sap too much electricity
22:04 Cprossu yes and I ain't
22:04 wannabe1987 http://www.amazon.com/Jeff-Dunham-Controlled-Chaos/dp/B005CRMXKQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1316736370&amp;sr=8-1  want
22:04 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Jeff Dunham: Controlled Chaos: Jeff Dunham: Movies & TV
22:04 Cprossu however we did blow up every viable ATX power supply when we tried to clone me.
22:04 tehdark45 Isn't he Achmed the Dead Terrorist?
22:05 Cprossu damn chinese electrolytic capacitors
22:06 Fulsy better than american electrolytics made in the 60's
22:06 Fulsy crackle crackle crackle
22:06 tehdark45 wannabe1987, how does one have a keyboard stuck in dvorak?
22:06 wannabe1987 i couldn't remember the shortcut to undo it....
22:06 tehdark45 isnt it hardware controlled?
22:07 wannabe1987 no....?
22:07 wannabe1987 ??
22:07 tehdark45 Why would you use dvorak on a qwerty keyboard
22:07 Cprossu you're a fruit xD
22:07 wannabe1987 learning purposes.
22:07 wannabe1987 and i'm broke
22:07 Cprossu or get cramps and are bored
22:07 Cprossu ^hand cramps
22:08 tehdark45 so you prefer qwerty?
22:08 tehdark45 wannabe1987,
22:08 Cprossu Fulsy: I'll take crackle crackle crackle over POP BOOM FIZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:08 wannabe1987 still learning
22:09 tehdark45 Cprossu, you forgot snap
22:09 Cprossu no that's rice crispies
22:09 Cprossu oh wait pop is too
22:09 Cprossu shit.
22:09 tehdark45 Lol
22:09 wannabe1987 except i just removed dvorak cuz it kept getting stuck here on that :(
22:10 Fulsy LOL
22:10 Cprossu Snap Crackle Pop 'Lytic Crispies!!!!
22:10 Fulsy Chinese secretly fill e-lyics with rice crispies
22:10 Cprossu the only cereal packed with electrolytes!
22:10 Fulsy *pops one open and eats rice krispie paste*
22:10 tehdark45 RIP Fulsy
22:11 tehdark45 :P
22:11 Fulsy DX
22:11 tehdark45 HBK?
22:12 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what are we making esplody?
22:12 Cprossu trying to clone people
22:13 Cprossu like we need one of you, one of me, an extra egrsteve, a kidwell, and some others there
22:13 Cprossu for emergency use
22:13 * wannabe1987 listens to sigur ros
22:13 tehdark45 We deff need a me
22:13 wannabe1987 no
22:13 wannabe1987 no we don't
22:13 wannabe1987 no clones
22:13 wannabe1987 (of you)
22:13 * Isopropyl|Media is starting an internet radio station again... needs a name
22:13 tehdark45 Same to you
22:14 tehdark45 Isopro FM?
22:14 wannabe1987 i'm fine with just one of me
22:14 wannabe1987 LISTEN TO ME radio!
22:14 wannabe1987 o i know!@
22:14 wannabe1987 the shark! :P
22:14 Cprossu we agreed that we blew up a 3 phase air cooled rectifier trying to clone boden, an oil filled 3 phase rectifier trying to clone kidwell, all the viable ATX power supplies to try and clone me, blew out every neutrik connector trying to clone egrsteve,
22:14 Cprossu uh.....
22:14 Cprossu etc.
22:15 Isopropyl|Media lol
22:15 Isopropyl|Media I wonder if i could run an internet radio front for tgg...
22:16 Cprossu I got no clue, but at least I got the geek group radio's sound actually sounding decent
22:17 * Isopropyl|Media has to wire another telephone to patch to his soundcard
22:20 Cprossu they even marked my board EQ so that's good
22:20 tonsofpcs neutrik connectors? how do you blow them out?
22:20 Cprossu I don't know but we did. trying to clone egrsteve.
22:21 tonsofpcs anyway, you need to use dynamic processing, not just an EQ
22:21 Cprossu yes we do
22:21 Cprossu but I didn't want to mess with it
22:22 Cprossu getting the other orban unit on there would have taken all of the cabling and resources we need for the video stream
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22:22 injektion Did Kidwell cut his hair?
22:22 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCEVTcL1bJ0&amp;feature=related
22:22 BotSteve Title: Agnes - It's so fluffy I'm gonna die! - YouTube
22:22 Cprossu more like he had a fight with a lawnmower and lost, injektion
22:23 tonsofpcs see PM
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22:25 Electricguy wohoow! my ipod mini Rev. 2 just wen solid state and from 4 to 8GB :D
22:25 Electricguy running RocksBox
22:25 killaway^zzZZ nightnight every all
22:25 Electricguy night
22:25 Electricguy sleep well
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22:27 wannabe1987 night killaway^zzZZ
22:29 Cprossu going to check in on stomper hang on
22:29 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axbUCR1nKRA
22:29 BotSteve Title: Full Despicable Me Theme Song - Pharrell Williams - YouTube
22:30 Cprossu not much new
22:34 wannabe1987 ok
22:36 Seroster Lets see now
22:36 Seroster One drawer for 230v stuff
22:36 Seroster One so far empty (probably small components)
22:36 Seroster One for misc wires (pvc/magnet wire)
22:36 Seroster One for bolts, screws, nails, ball bearings and small pieces of metal
22:37 Seroster One for zipties, glues, tape, epoxy, heatshrink tubing
22:37 Seroster One for reactors, transformers and stuff like that
22:37 astro73|mal BotSteve, tell BatSteve that I've got a pile of changes he might want to cherry pick into master.
22:37 BotSteve astro73|mal: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
22:38 Seroster The compressor on top, a vise and a VFD on the side facing the wall and random tools on the side facing me (probably the large ones I dont want in my toolbox)
22:39 tonsofpcs Seroster!
22:39 Seroster tonsofpcs!
22:39 Seroster I got two drawers for $15
22:39 tonsofpcs ya know that lamp I had that was bursting on and off that you said was probably a switch?
22:39 Seroster Erm.... No? But I can prentend I know what you are talking about =)
22:40 tonsofpcs pretty sure it was you
22:40 Seroster Heh
22:40 Seroster What application?
22:40 tonsofpcs lamp in a permanent installed socket, when it's on, sometimes the lamp decides to start blinking and buzzing, as if someone is flipping the switch on and off really fast, sometimes it's just off...
22:40 tonsofpcs and sometimes it's on and happy
22:41 Seroster Nope, wasnt me, but sounds like either a switch, a loose bulb or a bad dimmer
22:41 tonsofpcs no dimmers, bulb has been swapped, and constant switchhing on either switch attached changes nothing.  I'm thinking the neutral is loose
22:42 Seroster Tried bypassing the switch with a torix?
22:42 * wannabe1987 gets to go home tmorrow :D
22:42 Seroster Or maybe that was what you said in the last sentence  but I really could make no sense of it =P
22:43 Seroster tonsofpcs, Got a meter?
22:43 tonsofpcs switch on the wall I haven't opened up, switch on the fixture (it's a ceiling fan with separate pull chain for lamp) can't be bypassed without rewiring
22:43 tonsofpcs what kind?
22:43 Seroster Right
22:43 tonsofpcs (read: yes)
22:43 Seroster Volts preferably
22:44 Seroster DMM
22:44 tonsofpcs sure.
22:44 Seroster First of all, grab a flashlight, cut power to the switch, and test with your DMM
22:44 Seroster Both hot-neutral, hot-ground and neutral-ground, because you cant be too sure with mains
22:44 Seroster Then pull the switch out and examine it
22:44 tonsofpcs there is no ground at the fixture
22:45 tonsofpcs not sure at the switch
22:45 Seroster But there is a radiator in the room
22:45 tonsofpcs there's a breaker box in the room, that's irrelevant :-p
22:45 Seroster You just want to see if there is any voltage between the hot or neutral and X
22:45 tonsofpcs I rent and I'd rather this just be the landlord's issue.
22:45 Seroster Heh
22:46 Seroster I was digging into my parents kitchen fan yesterday
22:46 Seroster And they mentioned the flickering bulb
22:46 Seroster I got into the wiring and noticed the hot was loose, not just loose, but the screw holding it was MISSING.
22:46 tonsofpcs :(
22:46 Seroster Popping a light switch takes about a minute, and with a little luck your problem is something stupidly simple like that.
22:46 tonsofpcs one thing i'm noticing just now....
22:47 Hackbat my pc/server room is so quiet now o.o
22:47 tonsofpcs there's two f these fixtures in the aapartment
22:47 Hackbat it's unsettling
22:47 tonsofpcs the onei n the room here (no issue) is wired with white, the one in the bedroom is wired with black.........
22:47 Seroster Hackbat, Thats what happens when you blow fuses by overusage of porn.
22:47 tonsofpcs lol Seroster
22:47 Hackbat I can actually hear the Powersupply on the mini fridge it's so queit
22:47 Hackbat Seroster, I replaced what used to be my server with a laptop mobo running off a SD card
22:47 wannabe1987 the song says "secret asian man"............
22:48 tonsofpcs my new genset is so quiet, I can hear it from two places inside the building :D
22:48 Seroster Thats odd, tonsofpcs. Has this switch always had this problem or has it grown with time?
22:48 Seroster Btw, I gotta go shower, because I really need to get the smell of old fan grease out of my hair
22:48 Hackbat It USED to be an old gaming PC
22:48 tonsofpcs Seroster: I've been here 3 years.  It has happened twice, the first time was last I brought it up and it sustained for a month or so, the second time just started last week
22:48 wannabe1987 yum
22:48 Monkeh tonsofpcs: What do you mean, wired with white?
22:49 tonsofpcs I mean that the wires going into and out of the bulb socket have a white (PVC, I think, not reaching in to check) coating, the other one they have a black (again, PVC I think) coating
22:50 Monkeh tonsofpcs: If they're connected to a lampholder they may well be oversleeved with something.
22:51 tonsofpcs oversleeved?
22:51 Monkeh With a heat resistant sleeving.
22:51 tonsofpcs they look like 12 AWG or so (maybe a bit thinner) wires with a plasticy insulator...
22:52 Monkeh 12?!
22:52 Monkeh The hell is that feeding, a bank of halogens?
22:52 tonsofpcs black stuff looks like 14 or 16
22:53 tonsofpcs interesting, this other one is not just white, it's both black and white
22:53 tonsofpcs and the one with just black showing is the one with the issue....
22:54 Monkeh The colour of a bit of PVC has a lot to do with how electricity flows through the copper inside.
22:54 Monkeh ;)
22:54 tonsofpcs Monkeh: it does!  Especially when it's green with a yellow stripe :-p
22:55 * tonsofpcs hands Monkeh some four aught.
22:55 wannabe1987 ITS A MONKEH!
22:55 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Which is, last I checked, not a colour code used in the united states of archaic electrics.
22:56 Monkeh wannabe1987: It is. Now gimme a banana, I'm hungry and can't eat curry.
22:56 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVbA9dDKqyU  here
22:56 BotSteve Title: Despicable Me - Mini Movie - BANANA - YouTube
22:56 wannabe1987 BANANA
22:56 astro73|mal apple?
22:57 wannabe1987 yes
22:57 dbshortwave PEANUT BUTTA JELLY TIME!!!
22:57 wannabe1987 no
22:57 wannabe1987 no jelly
22:57 wannabe1987 jelly BAD
22:57 dbshortwave no?
22:58 tonsofpcs Monkeh: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Three_light_switches_with_exposed_wiring.jpg  probably is clean compared to what's in the walls here
22:58 BotSteve Title: File:Three light switches with exposed wiring.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:59 wannabe1987 http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/funny-facebook-fails-in-conceivable.jpg
22:59 tonsofpcs ungrounded :
22:59 tonsofpcs (
22:59 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yes, I've seen that.
23:00 Monkeh tonsofpcs: It says a lot about your electrical installations when all your standard accessories require wrapping in tape to be electrically safe.
23:00 tonsofpcs (why is that picture referenced in the wikipedia article on mains wiring?)
23:00 tonsofpcs Monkeh: they don't.  That is a horrible install.
23:01 Monkeh tonsofpcs: They do.
23:02 tehdark45 Monkeh, you really hate american standards dont you?
23:02 tehdark45 :P
23:02 Monkeh tehdark45: The terminals are exposed on the sides of the stupid things!
23:03 tonsofpcs also, green/yellow is used here in some cases.
23:03 tonsofpcs (i have plenty of green/yellow wiring at work)
23:03 Monkeh Sounds like common sense is invading
23:04 tonsofpcs common sense?
23:04 tonsofpcs a color choice is common sense?
23:04 Monkeh Colour coding which allows clear identification of conductors even with colour blindness.
23:04 tonsofpcs most home wiring here is bare
23:04 wannabe1987 wtf is common sense....
23:04 Monkeh wannabe1987: Uncommon.
23:05 wannabe1987 mhm
23:05 tonsofpcs and black, white, green should be clearly identifiable by someone with any form of color blindness.  And you should check what wire is what when you go to use already-installed wires anyway.
23:05 tonsofpcs bare ground, that is
23:05 tehdark45 Hey lets use 20 awg for mains supply
23:05 tehdark45 lol
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23:05 Monkeh tehdark45: Why not?
23:05 Cprossu oh fuck you google autocorrect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
23:06 dbshortwave LOL
23:06 Cprossu I type in electrical box installation and it autocorrected me to
23:06 Cprossu elephant barbox installation
23:06 tehdark45 Its a bit thin Monkeh
23:06 tonsofpcs lol
23:06 Monkeh tehdark45: So?
23:06 tehdark45 Fire
23:06 tehdark45 Death
23:06 tonsofpcs Cprossu: oo, find that guy that we all have to vote into oblivion
23:06 Seroster Monkeh, My colour blind brother can tell the difference between brown and blue, they are different shades of gray.
23:06 tehdark45 Sadness
23:06 tehdark45 lol
23:06 Monkeh tehdark45: Yeah, uh, no.
23:06 tonsofpcs Monkeh: just ignore the dark
23:07 tehdark45 its the
23:07 tehdark45 wtf?
23:07 Monkeh tehdark45: That's your fingers attempting to autocorrect for your faulty brain.
23:07 Monkeh ;)
23:08 tehdark45 no
23:08 tehdark45 i type t e h
23:08 tehdark45 and i get the
23:08 Electricguy bedtime. night all
23:08 wannabe1987 lol
23:08 wannabe1987 bye Electricguy
23:08 wannabe1987 and autocorrect sucks! :P
23:08 tehdark45 wannabe1987, I know
23:09 Toastdude Hi wannabe1987
23:09 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude!
23:09 Toastdude .seen BatSteve
23:09 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw batsteve 16.22 hours ago at 2011-11-20 06:55:53 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:09:16 UTC
23:09 Katemonster hey it's a kelly.  how about that.
23:09 Toastdude thanks BotSteve
23:09 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
23:09 Katemonster .seen bat-mobile
23:09 BotSteve Katemonster: I last saw bat-mobile 67.92 hours ago at 2011-11-18 03:14:39 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:09:37 UTC
23:09 wannabe1987 its a kate!
23:09 Katemonster what?  where!?
23:09 wannabe1987 its getting closer to an acceptable time to go sleep!  w00to
23:10 wannabe1987 there *points to washington state*
23:10 Katemonster ooooh that one.
23:10 tehdark45 Katemonster, your in WA?
23:10 Toastdude Kate!
23:10 Katemonster yessir
23:10 wannabe1987 mhm
23:10 tehdark45 Im just above you lol
23:10 wannabe1987 theres also a kate in texas, but she's coming home in a few days :D :D :D :D
23:10 Katemonster BC?
23:10 wannabe1987 o.O
23:10 tehdark45 Yes
23:10 wannabe1987 thats awkward
23:11 wannabe1987 so you're levitating RIGHT above kates head?  creepy
23:11 wannabe1987 GET IT AWAY
23:11 wannabe1987 does it die with fire?
23:11 Katemonster http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg204/scaled.php?server=204&amp;filename=canadahat.jpg&amp;res=medium
23:12 tehdark45 lol
23:13 wannabe1987 Toastdude: do tehdark45's die wtih fire?
23:14 Toastdude Yep, pretty sure
23:14 Toastdude Only one way to find out though...
23:14 wannabe1987 can we try?
23:14 Katemonster okay
23:14 * Toastdude sets tehdark45 on fire
23:14 Katemonster i'd prefer to not have a flaming canadian suspended above my head.
23:14 * tehdark45 uses ant fire
23:14 tehdark45 anti*
23:14 Toastdude Oh... Too late Kate
23:14 * wannabe1987 moves the flaming tehdark45 to not above kates head
23:14 tehdark45 Katemonster, im not even canadian :P
23:15 Katemonster oh well then fine.  commence with firification
23:15 tonsofpcs katemonster: is a flaming non-canadian acceptable?
23:15 tonsofpcs ok
23:15 tehdark45 Lol
23:16 tehdark45 Cheezmo can be the flaming canadaian
23:16 tehdark45 canadain*
23:16 wannabe1987 no i like Cheezmo, don't light him on fire
23:17 tonsofpcs who said anything about lighting people on fire?
23:17 Toastdude I did
23:17 Toastdude :P
23:17 Toastdude Well wannabe mentioned it first..
23:17 tehdark45 Toastdude is letting his inner pyro out
23:17 wannabe1987 lol yes i did
23:17 wannabe1987 and i like fire, thank you very much
23:17 Toastdude Who said I am a guy?
23:17 wannabe1987 i'm fucking COLD right now :(
23:17 Toastdude Lol
23:18 Cprossu .twf wannabe1987
23:18 Cprossu .tfw wannabe1987
23:18 Cprossu lol
23:18 BotSteve Unknown location
23:18 tehdark45 Toastdude, um the dude in your name?
23:18 wannabe1987 .tfw 48850
23:18 BotSteve 33°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Lakeview, MI!  'Fuck this place.'
23:18 wannabe1987 o.O
23:18 Toastdude That doesn't mean anything :P
23:18 Cprossu tehdark45 it's heywood banks
23:19 tehdark45 What Cprossu ?
23:19 wannabe1987 Toastdude could be an invisible rabbit like harvye
23:19 wannabe1987 harvey*
23:19 wannabe1987 not like in donnie darko tho
23:19 wannabe1987 :/
23:19 Toastdude Yay Harvey!
23:19 Cprossu .w heywood banks toast
23:20 BotSteve "Heywood Banks (real name Stuart Mitchell) is an American comedian, and writer and performer of humorous songs." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heywood_Banks
23:20 wannabe1987 amen http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/funny-facebook-fails-generational-issues.jpg
23:20 Cprossu hence the dude in Toastdude is heywood banks.
23:21 tehdark45 I see
23:21 tehdark45 Cprossu, Hence? Do you want tea and crumpets too>
23:21 tehdark45 ?*
23:21 tehdark45 :P
23:22 * Cprossu slams tehdark45 with a gigantic wheel of brie
23:23 tehdark45 Cprossu, thats french. You should slam me with Wenslydale
23:23 tehdark45 :P
23:23 Sgt_Lemming morning all
23:23 * wannabe1987 is reading failbook
23:23 wannabe1987 hi lem!
23:23 Sgt_Lemming .seen yNos
23:23 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I last saw ynos 3.29 hours ago at 2011-11-20 20:06:39 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:23:54 UTC
23:23 wannabe1987 how was the night?
23:24 masterofmonks Ha!
23:24 Sgt_Lemming yNos, you concious?
23:24 Sgt_Lemming not bad, went to bed like 11ish and woke up at 9 :-D
23:24 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, g'day
23:24 masterofmonks Even though Virgin upped their rate by $10 since I was already on the plan I kept my same rate.
23:24 Cprossu but I felt like slamming you with brie tehdark45 because it's tastey.
23:24 tehdark45 Cprossu, wouldn't that be a waste of tasty cheese?
23:24 Cprossu it'll be fine
23:25 Cprossu it
23:25 Cprossu is moldy cheese what else could go wrong with it
23:25 tehdark45 explode?
23:25 * Cprossu gets out the crackers
23:25 Cprossu nope still good.
23:26 masterofmonks Need some advice from someoen who uses virtual machines more than I do.
23:26 Cprossu use virtualbox. then do the hokey pokey and turn youself around?
23:26 masterofmonks Can it access USB devices?
23:26 tehdark45 masterofmonks, what are you trying to do?
23:26 Cprossu yes
23:27 masterofmonks Ok, I seem to recall that there was one that couldn't, and it kinda ticked me off.
23:28 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
23:28 Cprossu virtualpc doesn't I don't think
23:28 wannabe1987 lem - 10 hours sleep is awesome.....and i hate my internet
23:28 masterofmonks tehdark45: I have a Creative Zen Touch that i need to update the firmware on, have to do it from XP, and don't feel like installing XP on anything.
23:28 tehdark45 Ah
23:28 wannabe1987 hi masterofmonks
23:29 masterofmonks Morning wannabe1987.
23:31 Sgt_Lemming masterofmonks, good luck getting that to work from inside a VM
23:31 Cprossu it's doable...sort of
23:32 tehdark45 masterofmonks, just use Virtual PC 2007
23:32 Sgt_Lemming tehdark45, it has pretty horrendous usb hardware support
23:32 tehdark45 oh
23:32 Sgt_Lemming which is what masterofmonks needs
23:32 tehdark45 yeah
23:33 Sgt_Lemming shit, it doesn't even support hardware acceleration for anything, not even graphics
23:33 Sgt_Lemming so any program that needs gpu acceleration to work... doesn't work
23:33 wannabe1987 Toastdude: http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/funny-facebook-fails-more-confused-than-sympathetic.jpg  if this guy can post via microwave, do you post via toaster?
23:35 Toastdude idk its being poopy
23:35 wannabe1987 awwww
23:35 Toastdude Morning masterofmonks
23:36 masterofmonks Morning Toastdude
23:36 Toastdude How are you?
23:36 masterofmonks Allright.
23:37 Toastdude Gut.
23:40 * wannabe1987 can't wait...in about 12 hours i'm getting up and getting the last few things OUT OF HERE and LEAVING
23:43 InteliWasp joined #thegeekgroup
23:43 Toastdude Hi InteliWasp
23:44 wannabe1987 i wondered where the music was coming from, then i remembed my ipod/headphones.  i feel like a blonde
23:45 Toastdude .....It's okay wannabe
23:45 Toastdude :P
23:45 wannabe1987 except i am blonde
23:45 wannabe1987 .............
23:46 Toastdude Then I wonder why you feel that way :P
23:47 wannabe1987 becasuei put the headphones in.
23:47 Toastdude ......
23:48 Seroster Anyhow...
23:48 Seroster CYA FOLKS
23:48 Toastdude Bye Seroster
23:50 Seroster My tool mess is becoming... Organized. Structured. Useful. Nice.
23:50 Seroster BWAHAHAHAHA
23:50 * Katemonster needs her batsteve
23:50 Toastdude The IRC needs BatSteve....
23:50 Druidic_Rifleman hany high voltage dudes?
23:50 Sgt_Lemming a little bit Druidic_Rifleman
23:51 astro73-bot joined #thegeekgroup
23:51 Druidic_Rifleman At what point does black carbon based plastic conduct electricity
23:51 Sgt_Lemming depends on a lot of variables
23:52 Sgt_Lemming best idea, just avoid using it
23:54 Toastdude Yay, Dvorak...
23:55 Toastdude Poop........
23:57 InteliWasp oh, hi Toastdude
23:57 Toastdude It kinda sucks...
23:57 Toastdude lol

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