Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-21

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00:10 injektion I hate how when it's the weekend my skin gets all kinds of chemical bumps but once I go back to work the bumps are gone
00:11 * Toastdude killed the chat...
00:13 Sgt_Lemming it amuses me that there are so many people in the USA who are worried about over governance... but the house of congress just declared pizza a vegetable...
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00:14 Toastdude vvvv
00:14 Toastdude .....
00:14 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, the FDA is full of shit
00:14 injektion Pancakes
00:15 Toastdude Forgot about dvorak....
00:15 Sgt_Lemming tehdark45, this wasn't the FDA
00:15 Sgt_Lemming this was congress....
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00:16 Toastdude .........
00:16 tehdark45 The FDA probably sponsored it
00:16 Sgt_Lemming nope
00:16 Sgt_Lemming FDA was against it afaik
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00:17 wannabe1987 there
00:17 wannabe1987 everything but blankets/backpack/computers is out in the car
00:17 wannabe1987 even stuff that might freeze because theres a lot of it.........
00:17 Toastdude wannabe!
00:17 * wannabe1987 holds hands over Toastdude to warm up
00:18 Toastdude :D
00:18 wannabe1987 .tfw 48850
00:18 BotSteve 32°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Lakeview, MI!  'Your source of crude weather!'
00:18 tehdark45 Hurr, there is tomato paste on pizza. It must be vegetable!
00:18 Sgt_Lemming you should move here wannabe1987 :-P
00:18 Sgt_Lemming .tfw brisbane
00:18 BotSteve 81°F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Brisbane, AS!  'sweating my balls off'
00:19 tehdark45 .tfwc surrey
00:19 wannabe1987 no...i like  being by family
00:19 BotSteve 1°C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Surrey, CA!  'I'm not sure how you can stand it'
00:19 Toastdude tehdark45: Tomatoes are fruit...
00:19 Sgt_Lemming tomato paste != vegetable
00:19 Sgt_Lemming and that is what they are claiming
00:19 tehdark45 Yep
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00:19 wannabe1987 hi jamie!
00:20 Toastdude WTF astro73-bot???????
00:20 Toastdude astro73-bot:: Y U NO STAY????
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00:20 astro73|mal i keep on killing it because i keep getting errors
00:20 Toastdude Oh...
00:20 Toastdude Changy default.py
00:20 Toastdude So it won't keep joining here...
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00:21 astro73|mal except the real data is here
00:21 Toastdude That is if you use phenny..
00:21 astro73|mal and I often due
00:21 Toastdude Oh
00:21 astro73|mal *do
00:21 Toastdude How do you quiet him on a specific channel?
00:22 astro73|mal i've gotten rid of it
00:22 Toastdude The quiet?
00:22 astro73|mal he'll be back later, though, after I've gotten the bugs worked out
00:22 wannabe1987 bye bye botty
00:22 wannabe1987 Toastdude: make me these please?  http://www.howsweeteats.com/2011/11/buttery-cloverleaf-rolls/
00:22 BotSteve Title: Homemade Cloverleaf Rolls | How Sweet It Is
00:23 Toastdude Okay!
00:23 Toastdude :P\
00:23 wannabe1987 http://myspace.roflposters.com/images/rofl/myspace/1234491174349.jpg.%5Broflposters.com%5D.myspace.jpg
00:23 wannabe1987 sdgdf posted that on the other channel i'm in :P
00:24 Toastdude Lol
00:24 wannabe1987 this, you may not have
00:24 wannabe1987 too young yet
00:26 Toastdude FFFFFFFUUUUU
00:26 Fulsy .tfw 06483
00:26 BotSteve 55°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Seymour, CT!  'Where life is mediocre'
00:26 Druidic_Rifleman :( all that bear :(
00:26 Druidic_Rifleman Beer :(
00:30 Sgt_Lemming err, just noticed something on the geekgroup machine shop logo in latest captains blog
00:31 Sgt_Lemming the centre of it looks like a pair of balls hanging...
00:32 Toastdude .....
00:36 wannabe1987 http://failbook.failblog.org/2011/11/03/funny-facebook-fails-wait-omg/
00:36 BotSteve Title: Wait… OMG! - Funny Facebook Status Messages and Facebook Fails
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00:39 egrsteve| thats odd I wanted to be egrsteve|!away and it gave an error
00:39 egrsteve| so I tried egrsteve|~away
00:39 MadManMarkAu1 joined #thegeekgroup
00:39 egrsteve| and it droped everything after the ~
00:39 egrsteve| oh well
00:39 astro73|mal ! is used internally to seperate the nick from the user
00:40 egrsteve ah ok, so that was there input sanatizer yelling at me
00:40 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
00:40 BotSteve At 20 Nov 21:32Z, Cprossu asked me to tell egrsteve tehdark45 is going to make all of our cameras robotic and remote control, isn't that great?!
00:40 astro73|mal ~ might be dropped as well, since I think it indicates an identified user
00:40 egrsteve it just dropped it, no error
00:41 Cprossu hey egrsteve what's up?
00:41 egrsteve tell me more about that message cprossu
00:41 Cprossu just put the weathercam back up lol
00:41 Cprossu ooooh thart was a joke
00:41 Cprossu don't worry about it
00:41 egrsteve ah ok
00:41 Cprossu I did an evil thing btw
00:41 egrsteve moe evil than me?
00:41 Cprossu since we couldn't iris the camera in hvl
00:41 Cprossu I turned up the gain on the cap card
00:42 Cprossu too bad I didn't think of that the other day lol
00:42 egrsteve I hope you turned it back down
00:42 egrsteve and I doubt it would have helped
00:42 wannabe1987 http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/funny-facebook-fails-holding-hands1.jpg
00:42 Cprossu it helped hvl by 20 times
00:42 egrsteve btw I am still more evil ;)
00:42 Cprossu yeah but turning up gain is still evil.
00:42 Cprossu I went up 1.25db lol
00:42 astro73|mal you're evil? I'm data mining everyone in the channel
00:43 egrsteve ouch
00:43 Toastdude ..........
00:43 wannabe1987 lol
00:43 egrsteve that is quite a bit, not liek the 18db in camera though
00:43 tehdark45 astro73|mal, i haz your bainkin info lulz
00:43 Cprossu yeah it turned out well
00:43 egrsteve tehdark45: I hear your making PTZs for us cool
00:43 Cprossu and also the weathercam looks pretty good too
00:44 Cprossu if you want to load up the stream I can show you the diff
00:44 tehdark45 No that was Cprossu being silly
00:44 tehdark45 lol
00:44 egrsteve I'm good, I'll believe you
00:44 egrsteve I have gained it in a TBC
00:44 Sgt_Lemming I think it kinda says something that I had to put my sunglasses on just to go outside and hang out the washing :-P
00:45 Cprossu yeah but I am 1950 miles away from the tbs heh
00:45 Cprossu *tbc
00:45 Cprossu and the iris controls for the camera
00:45 egrsteve i know
00:45 Cprossu so I did what I could. then tehdark45 had the great idea of making all our cameras robotic and I delegated the job to him ;D
00:46 egrsteve robotic cams would be nice
00:46 egrsteve you can do it with RC servos
00:47 * Sgt_Lemming makes all the camera's holographoc
00:47 egrsteve lens controls will have to be modded for multi turn range
00:47 egrsteve and we will need to make interface gears
00:47 Cprossu tehdark45 was totally enthusiastic about taking the job and he couldn't even contain himself and thus had to leave irc temporarily
00:47 tehdark45 or Cprossu we can just make Corey robotic and he can do everything
00:47 Sgt_Lemming there are off the shelf continous rotatio servos
00:47 tehdark45 I left to eat
00:48 Sgt_Lemming rotation*
00:48 egrsteve I know there are but I was thinking multi turn pot mod
00:48 Cprossu lol if we had a robotic cory he'd.... oh never mind
00:48 egrsteve so 10 turn range
00:48 tehdark45 Cprossu, destroy a bathroom?
00:49 Cprossu we just fixed those too tehdark45
00:49 astro73|mal we've already discussed roboboden
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00:49 Cprossu no we discussed clone boden
00:49 tehdark45 Robocloneboden
00:49 Cprossu clone boden would destroy everything in the lab in a day
00:50 egrsteve I don't think the world is ready (or ever be ready) for 2 Bodens
00:50 wannabe1987 lol
00:50 tehdark45 egrsteve, what if he has a brother?
00:50 tehdark45 :P
00:50 Cprossu and we discussed the various failures at cloning various useful folks too egrsteve
00:51 Cprossu we blew up every neutrik connector in the lab trying to clone you
00:51 Cprossu and every viable ATX power supply trying to clone me
00:51 eadthem could you imagen the boden levels on live if we had 2 bodens
00:51 eadthem no sound system would survive
00:51 Cprossu we blew up a oil cooled three phase rectifier trying to clone kidwell
00:52 egrsteve no that was due to a lack of work coil falure
00:52 Cprossu no different rectifier
00:52 egrsteve cloning kidwell tookout half of GRs power a couple weeks ago
00:52 Cprossu one bigger than the transmitter
00:52 Cprossu lol
00:52 egrsteve the squirl was a cover
00:52 Cprossu indeed
00:52 wannabe1987 mhm
00:52 tehdark45 2 bodens giving a PSA on drugs. No mic withing a 50 mile radius will dervive
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00:52 tehdark45 servive*
00:53 Cprossu *survive
00:53 wannabe1987 survive*
00:53 wannabe1987 FAIL
00:53 Ponko i only just got on.....
00:53 Ponko lol
00:53 tehdark45 live to tell the tale*
00:53 wannabe1987 hhi Ponko
00:53 Cprossu ^ ?Syntax error in line 3
00:53 Toastdude Lrbtr!
00:53 Toastdude .......
00:54 Toastdude DAMN DVORAK!!!!!
00:54 Toastdude Ponko!
00:54 Ponko hey wannabe1987 &
00:54 wannabe1987 lolololol
00:54 Ponko TOASTY!!!!!!
00:54 Toastdude :D
00:57 egrsteve 4o min captains blog ya
00:57 Toastdude Ikr?
00:57 tehdark45 Joe attempts to kill Rob
00:58 tehdark45 lol
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01:05 wannabe1987 Ponko!
01:05 wannabe1987 you came back!
01:05 wannabe1987 :D
01:05 * wannabe1987 is hungry, looks around for food, spies Toastdude and some goose jerky :D
01:05 wannabe1987 yum.....
01:06 Toastdude D:
01:06 Toastdude No!
01:06 wannabe1987 i'm eating the jerky instead
01:06 Toastdude I thought brothers were NOT for nomming...
01:06 Toastdude Oh.. Good... Thanks :P
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01:06 wannabe1987 I DIDN"T NOM YOU
01:06 wannabe1987 i noticed you were food!
01:06 egrsteve can you make stuffing out of toast?
01:06 Toastdude Y U HOLD DOWN SHIFT KEY wannabe1987? :P
01:07 wannabe1987 BECAUSE
01:07 Toastdude OKAY
01:07 wannabe1987 girl has cute cat, astro73|mal
01:07 astro73|mal and big
01:08 wannabe1987 egrsteve: no....bread needs to be not toasted i think....i dunno, i make it from a box! :P
01:08 wannabe1987 big?
01:08 wannabe1987 i  can't tell in the blurry photo
01:08 egrsteve but I bet toasty could be thanksgiving stuffing
01:08 wannabe1987 not my toasty
01:09 Toastdude Yay
01:09 wannabe1987 he doesn't fit in a turkey :P
01:10 Toastdude :P
01:10 wannabe1987 my brother turns 11 in 1 month and 10 days or something ccrazy !
01:11 Toastdude :D
01:11 Toastdude Cool!
01:11 Ponko wannabe1987 internet crashed
01:11 wannabe1987 i figured
01:11 wannabe1987 mine does that
01:11 Ponko lol
01:11 wannabe1987 more on the netbook but yeah
01:12 Toastdude Guess what Ponko?
01:12 Ponko what
01:12 BotSteve Ponko: I have the following messages for you:
01:12 BotSteve At 01:12Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell Ponko hello
01:13 Ponko -_- really......
01:13 Ponko lol
01:13 Ponko thanks botsteve
01:13 BotSteve You're welcome, Ponko
01:13 Toastdude Yep! :D
01:13 yNos helo all
01:13 Toastdude Hi yNos!
01:14 yNos s/helo/hello
01:14 Ponko hello soNy
01:14 yNos dont you mean olleh soNy?
01:14 Ponko funny your nick is exactly the same thing my old phone was saying
01:15 Toastdude !soNy olleh
01:15 Ponko nosscire ynos
01:15 yNos :D
01:15 yNos lol, your phone sucks
01:15 yNos :P
01:16 Ponko well tbf it DID go through the washine machine
01:16 yNos nice
01:16 Ponko but i got a nokia again
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01:16 * yNos is not a fan of Sony's products.
01:17 astro73|mal ooph. I hate that bug.
01:17 Toastdude Which bug?
01:17 Ponko ...... i'm using a Vaio
01:17 Sgt_Lemming lo yNos, get my message?
01:17 yNos erm
01:17 yNos when?
01:17 Sgt_Lemming last couple of days
01:17 Cprossu hey yNos what's up?
01:17 Sgt_Lemming left one for you with BotSteve
01:17 astro73|mal Toastdude, BotSteve GH-105: A race condition in the underlying network library. https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve/issues/105
01:17 BotSteve Title: #105: Race condition in asynchat/asyncore - Issues - Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve - GitHub
01:17 yNos may have.. i got on the other day and got a few all at once... cant say i remember them...
01:18 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve should have given you a message about freebsd
01:18 BotSteve Oh yeah!
01:18 * Toastdude has "The Black Hole" theme stuck in his head...
01:18 Cprossu looooooooooooool
01:18 yNos Cprossu, Not much was thinking about giving that there steam thing a run
01:18 Sgt_Lemming ah, ok. I got FreeBSD booting off mirrored zpool's on my server
01:18 Sgt_Lemming quite a lot of work
01:18 Cprossu yeah I loaded up you the games on my secondary account
01:18 astro73|mal but of course, it's a race condition. I have no idea how it happens.
01:18 Cprossu I'd recc'd half life or portal first
01:18 yNos zpools? i dont have a lot of zfs knowlegs, mostly lvm
01:19 Sgt_Lemming kk
01:19 astro73|mal and i can't easily reproduce it
01:19 Cheezmo tehdark45, per your previous comments, I'm kinda a flaming canadian P:
01:19 Cprossu you may have to wait for it to update a bit though yNos
01:19 Sgt_Lemming let me just say this, it's a PITA to do
01:19 Cheezmo I just set a lot of stuff on fiyaaaah
01:19 Sgt_Lemming but I did it because I want ARC running
01:19 Cprossu it's times like these I love having a backup account =D
01:20 yNos wel, going to let it grind while i play on here then ;)
01:20 Sgt_Lemming yNos, http://wiki.freebsd.org/RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror <--- that's the guide I used
01:20 BotSteve Title: RootOnZFS/GPTZFSBoot/Mirror - FreeBSD Wiki
01:20 Sgt_Lemming just a couple of comands to type in
01:20 yNos Sgt_Lemming: adding a disk abstraction layer can be a bit to wrap your head around..
01:21 KernelTrap anyone here dealt with the Vortex86DX before?
01:22 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0-9n6Yamok&amp;feature=related
01:22 BotSteve Title: Super Soccer : Belgica VS Nintendo - YouTube
01:23 Ponko ok anyone who's interested i know alot aren't but if you are please watch it's a great watch even if it's only a video game
01:30 astro73|mal it's too quiet
01:30 Toastdude Yeah...
01:30 astro73|mal no, I mean it's too quiet. astro73-bot won't crash if nothing's happening.
01:32 Ponko we need to start a ruckus
01:32 Sgt_Lemming yNos, having some issues with it though
01:32 * Ponko knocks table over
01:32 Sgt_Lemming can't add users, and can't ssh in as root >_<
01:32 eadthem can you su once logged in
01:32 yNos what problems?
01:33 Cprossu oh god.
01:33 Sgt_Lemming gotta play with it, but I might try and write a script to do all the commands in that guide so I can rule out pebkac
01:33 yNos ssh as root is safe
01:33 Cprossu I have 42 windows of firefox opened
01:33 yNos you dont want to do that.
01:33 Cprossu each instance has like 30 tabs
01:33 Cprossu and I lost the stream and want to mute it
01:33 astro73|mal Cprossu, what the hell?
01:33 Sgt_Lemming yNos, this is on a local network
01:33 yNos can you run sysinstall and setup the users from there?
01:33 yNos doesnt matter if it is local
01:33 yNos if you want to do it, take a look at sshd.conf
01:33 Cprossu (RAM) Used: 3.71GB Free: 294.11MB Total: 4GB Used percent: 92%
01:34 Cprossu and it's using all my ram!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
01:34 Sgt_Lemming it fails with an eror 72 from pw that "/home" already exists
01:34 eadthem chrome 12  firefox 6 firefox 8 firefox 7
01:34 astro73|mal Cprossu, what do you do with 1200 tabs?
01:34 yNos sorry, not sshd.conf... /etc/ssh/sshd_config
01:34 Ponko GO PENS
01:34 Cprossu I wish I remembered!
01:34 eadthem 2.11 gb of 2gb used
01:34 Sgt_Lemming no matter whether I do adduser from command line, or do it from sysinstall
01:34 eadthem i realy need a new computer
01:34 astro73|mal Cprossu, i think that's officially worse than my room.
01:35 Ponko Cprossu that's a large farm you must have?
01:35 yNos hrm.. i dont have a fbsd box here to test on.
01:35 Ponko all that ram......
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01:35 Sgt_Lemming s'ok yNos, no great hurry
01:35 ToriJ Hi.
01:35 Cprossu I was looking up video equipment specs
01:35 Cprossu that's the issue
01:35 Sgt_Lemming I googled it but wasn't able to find much
01:36 Ponko eadthem you have more Ram being used than you have?
01:36 eadthem xp
01:36 Ponko lol how does that even work
01:36 Ponko lol
01:36 eadthem swap
01:37 Katemonster hey, it's a ponko.
01:37 Ponko oh so you're using 2 gb of 2.11 gb
01:37 eadthem no   2.11 of 2
01:37 Ponko that's impossible in fiscal terms lol
01:37 yNos Sgt_Lemming: do you have  acopy of the fbsd handbook?
01:38 yNos or hav you been reading it online?
01:38 Toastdude Hi ToriJ
01:38 Sgt_Lemming reading it online
01:38 yNos good
01:38 ToriJ Hi, Toastdude.
01:38 Ponko and oh hey it's a bitc... i mean Katemonster
01:38 Ponko :P
01:38 Katemonster ha ha
01:38 Toastdude Kate!
01:38 Cprossu still closing ff instances!
01:38 Cprossu (RAM) Used: 3.64GB Free: 371.82MB Total: 4GB Used percent: 90%
01:39 Katemonster hi toast
01:39 Cprossu made a tiny bit of headway
01:39 Ponko now that could of gone either way
01:41 exor674 Free: 5.14GB, Used: 8.87GB >_>
01:41 eadthem ya thats about what my new computer will be like
01:42 eadthem defantly going to be in the 8-12GB ram range
01:43 exor674 I really want to throw another 8GB in >_>
01:44 eadthem btw  are there any IDE's for linux that work with GCC and support build and continue
01:44 astro73|mal "build and continue"?
01:44 eadthem in visual studio i can start a program and trip a breakpoint
01:45 astro73|mal um.... I don't think GCC supports that
01:45 eadthem i can then add more code and continue execution   it will do a live recompile and apply the changes
01:45 astro73|mal yeah, nobody does that on linux
01:45 astro73|mal that i know
01:45 astro73|mal except eclipse in java
01:45 eadthem also i can inspect the values of everything in scope   is that possable?
01:45 astro73|mal gdb lets you do that, as much as you can in C
01:45 astro73|mal i'm sure other debuggers do, too
01:46 astro73|mal what language are you thinking about?
01:46 eadthem c c++ c++x0
01:46 astro73|mal C++x0?
01:47 eadthem err  c++0X
01:47 astro73|mal oh, C++11
01:47 eadthem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%2B%2B11
01:47 BotSteve Title: C++11 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:47 astro73|mal yeah, that
01:47 eadthem i cant be responsable if they feel they need to change the name
01:47 astro73|mal GDB is a fairly complete debugger, if you can hack a prompt interface
01:48 astro73|mal if not, i'm sure there's graphical debuggers available
01:48 astro73|mal the only serious IDE i've used on linux is Eclipse; I assume the CDT has debugging support.
01:48 eadthem well i can alwase write it for portablity and debug in windows
01:48 Cprossu (Uptime) 5wks 1day 10hrs 37mins 25secs
01:48 astro73|mal until you get a bug that only appears in linux
01:48 Cprossu (RAM) Used: 3.03GB Free: 993.74MB Total: 4GB Used percent: 75%
01:49 eadthem dose eclipse run fast on linux? or same as windows
01:49 Cprossu yay almost there
01:49 astro73|mal eadthem, it's still java.
01:49 eadthem i thought so
01:49 eadthem well its better than flash
01:49 astro73|mal ... what.
01:49 eadthem i use eclipse for php projects
01:49 astro73|mal is eclipse or C better than flash?
01:50 astro73|mal because I have issues with both comparisons
01:50 eadthem java better than flash
01:50 egrsteve not my much, can we get a petition to ban java from all platforms
01:50 astro73|mal except there's never been an IDE in flash
01:50 Toastdude eadthem: Misread as "well its better than flesh"....
01:50 eadthem there prob just as fast but atleast java dosent crash every 10 min
01:51 astro73|mal eadthem, in all honesty, all my code these days is gedit and a console.
01:51 eadthem or slowly consume more and more ram
01:51 astro73|mal but I do 0 C development
01:51 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I change my name to may actual name?
01:51 BotSteve Ask again later!
01:51 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I change my name to may actual name?
01:51 BotSteve No way
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01:52 eadthem the ide for c and c++ make for a huge reduction in bugs
01:52 eadthem well vc++ dose
01:52 yNos does anyone remember any of the web pages that would take the host-entry you give it and fill in the information with a bogus story..
01:52 yNos like
01:53 eadthem dont think ile ever beable to get away from it,  id prob rather run vc++ in wine than not have a IDE with atleast code compleation and basic syntax checking
01:53 yNos eadthem.is.a.rapist.net would bring you to a website that looks like a news story but has eadthem's name in the place of the actual rapist?
01:54 eadthem ymtd or something?
01:54 yNos like that..
01:54 eadthem isnt that what fox.com dose?
01:57 yNos hrm..
01:57 yNos not the one that i was thinking..
01:57 yNos ytmnd is close..
01:57 eadthem the onion?
01:57 yNos that is just dynamic
02:00 astro73|mal eadthem, you should check eclipse before trying to do something like run Visual Studio in wine
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02:01 eadthem i need to get the c++ portions of eclipse and try it
02:01 astro73|mal there!
02:01 Ponko geeks and sports rarely seen together but when they are its DEADLY combo if you think the same join tgg:sports
02:01 Ponko it's a*
02:02 eadthem i think the wii proved that
02:04 Ponko Eclipse? the book/
02:04 Cprossu once plugincontainer closes everything will be happy again I hope
02:05 Ponko Cprossu you near Pheonix?
02:10 BatSteve what up doods
02:10 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
02:10 BotSteve At 20 Nov 22:37Z, astro73|mal asked me to tell BatSteve that I've got a pile of changes he might want to cherry pick into master.
02:10 Cprossu Ponko of course
02:10 Cprossu the fact I .tfw 85021 should tell you that
02:11 Ponko i fail Cprossu you know this
02:11 Ponko lol
02:11 Hackbat I really don't want to like Visual C++
02:11 Cprossu (RAM) Used: 2.03GB Free: 1.97GB Total: 4GB Used percent: 50%
02:11 Hackbat but it's too damn good
02:11 Ponko isn't that a Nissan
02:11 BatSteve Cprossu: I saw your message about forcing the bot to mention who told it to speak
02:11 eadthem exactly
02:11 Ponko Nissan C+C
02:11 eadthem its a love hate thing   its microsoft and it may be the 1 thing they did right
02:11 Cprossu BatSteve: cool
02:12 Toastdude BatSteve!
02:13 Hackbat well let me correct myself
02:13 Cprossu I assure you that comment was properly provoked @ BatSteve
02:13 Hackbat I like the Visual Studio IDE
02:14 BatSteve Cprossu: I know, I saw what came before it also
02:14 eadthem but not the compiler
02:14 BatSteve Toastdude!
02:14 Ponko Cprossu your neighbour is a certain Stephanie Meyer
02:14 Hackbat if they had Visual Studio Java I'd die
02:15 BatSteve back in a moment
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02:15 BatSteve nope
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02:15 eadthem well dont fear   microsoft is determend to break everyone of there visual studio IDE love
02:15 Toastdude That was a short moment...
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02:15 Cprossu how does this concern me Ponko??
02:15 BatSteve There
02:15 BatSteve Much better
02:16 eadthem they made it so you cant inline asm and compile for X8x+64bit
02:16 eadthem err x86+64bit
02:17 Cprossu Ponko: ????
02:17 Ponko idk
02:17 Ponko you can go kill her for the crimes she's committed against nature lol
02:17 eadthem you have to use there propritary "inlines"  in the name of porablity that only will work on msvc++ :p
02:18 Cprossu I just checked, the only 'famous' Stephanie Meyer I can find lives in cave creek =P and apparently writes god awful books
02:18 Ponko Cprossu you're a Diamondback i presume
02:18 Ponko and that's the one....
02:18 Cprossu uhh.. diamondbacks fan, yes/
02:19 Ponko i feel sorry for you
02:19 Cprossu but we don't call ourselves diamondbacks =/
02:19 Cprossu why we won a world series
02:19 Cprossu and all our other teams haven't
02:19 Ponko too hot
02:19 Cprossu ?!
02:19 Cprossu we have a ROOF
02:19 Ponko outside it
02:19 Cprossu and the biggest ac in the world
02:19 Ponko outside the stadium
02:20 Ponko lol
02:20 Ponko or AZ itself
02:20 Cprossu it's nice here
02:20 Cprossu dry heat.
02:20 Cprossu .tfw 85021
02:20 BotSteve 67°F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Phoenix, AZ!  'WOO, Spring Break!'
02:20 Cprossu though it's cold now =P
02:20 Ponko ah least it's not Humid
02:20 Ponko Humidity is worse
02:21 Cprossu yeah we get that in august
02:21 Cprossu so what brings all this up?!
02:21 Ponko idk i was just thinking about
02:21 Ponko it
02:21 Ponko that and the Arizona Wildcats
02:21 Ponko but idk if i'll go there
02:22 Ponko .weather Lexington
02:22 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 51.8℉ (11℃), 30.19in (1019mb), Light Rain, Mist, Moderate breeze 12kt (↑) - KCVG, 01:52Z
02:22 Ponko ahhh like Luton
02:22 eadthem witch lexington?
02:23 egrsteve ynos: http://www.instructables.com/id/air-variable-capacitor-from-scrap-aluminum-sheets/
02:23 BotSteve Title: air variable capacitor from scrap aluminum sheets
02:23 Cprossu UofA's network is held together with bubblegum and 1/2's of paper clips
02:23 Ponko eadthem the one in KY
02:23 Cprossu I know this because I helped get the man who runs it fired from another job when I was in junior high.
02:23 Ponko home of the UK Wildcats
02:24 Cprossu at least I think that's why he was fired(?)
02:24 Ponko lol so should i stick to UofKY
02:24 Ponko i know where Kelly wants me to go.....
02:26 Ponko she ain't here to say but c'mon it's near tgg
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02:31 Ponko night
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02:32 astro73|mal do you know what's great? Gifts so good you make the recipient cry that you didn't spend a penny on.
02:33 yNos egrsteve: those are cool
02:34 yNos the reason i saif butterfly caps before is ther'd be less waste per blade made.
02:34 yNos **said
02:34 Sgt_Lemming astro73|mal, home made pepper spray doesn't count
02:35 egrsteve i know, that was a fairly low waste methode, especily if the circles were tesselated better
02:36 egrsteve I like the look of the split circles my self
02:36 Sgt_Lemming sigh, just reinstalled windows on my tablet, 59 updates to download >_<
02:38 yNos egrsteve: i hear you are working on a singing spark?
02:38 astro73|mal Sgt_Lemming, no, not so much.
02:39 yNos or was it one of the other Steves?
02:39 BatSteve Not me
02:43 yNos there are a few of you guys around :P
02:44 astro73|mal there usually are
02:44 astro73|mal maybe it's alien mind control, trying to turn us into a planet of steves.
02:45 egrsteve I am
02:45 yNos what are you using?
02:45 BatSteve .g project Steve
02:45 BotSteve BatSteve: http://ncse.com/taking-action/project-steve
02:46 BatSteve Now all I have to do is get my PhD and support evolution, and I can add my name to the list!
02:46 yNos i have a set of 6146 tubes that i have been thinking of using for a plasma speaker or a tesla coil
02:47 yNos a 12ax7 preamp with a 6146 should make a nice 80ish watt signal.
02:47 yNos easy
02:47 yNos well
02:47 yNos would be easy for the tube.
02:50 egrsteve Ynos check your PMs
02:51 Toastdude !soNy olleH
02:53 astro73|mal ok...
02:53 astro73|mal BotSteve, should I get my head out of code?
02:53 BotSteve No way
02:54 astro73|mal good man. err... bot.
02:55 * eadthem codes on BotSteve
02:56 eadthem hey btw hows dual and quad screen support in linux
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02:58 BatSteve HA
02:58 BatSteve eadthem: you're coding BotSteve?
02:58 BatSteve Awesome!
02:58 eadthem atm im on dual   i plan on being on tri or quad    2 for code   1 for server terminals   1 for game client
02:58 astro73|mal 3 and 4 should be as well supported as 2
02:58 eadthem hows 2?
02:59 astro73|mal the one time i did it, it didn't work well, but I might have been doing it wrong
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03:24 * Toastdude thinks chat is officially dead..
03:25 masterofmonks Nope.
03:25 astro73|mal it's called a dry spell.
03:25 Toastdude Okay
03:26 astro73|mal I try not to blather on about the inner workings of software
03:26 masterofmonks The avalanch has already started, it is to late for the pebbles to vote.
03:27 masterofmonks astro73|alice: You know we have at least two channels for that express purpose?
03:27 astro73|mal masterofmonks, how many channels do we have? is there an index?
03:28 masterofmonks I think that Seroster was wanting a listing service wht BotSteve, but as of yet there is not one.
03:28 astro73|mal shouldn't we just stick it on a webpage?
03:29 astro73|mal well, I think I got nicktracker working, and I think tell works with it, now
03:29 masterofmonks That might work, but honestly if I have to go to a webpage to look it up.. I am not too interested.
03:30 astro73|mal so tell should give you your messages as long as you're identified.
03:30 masterofmonks When the alternative is saying to BotSteve something like .tgg: and you get a pm with all the current sub channels.
03:33 astro73|mal well, we currently have 4 subchannels: admins, bots, controversial, and nsfw. But i just did that by hand
03:35 masterofmonks There is :administration, :sports, :studio, :tutoring
03:36 astro73|mal nobodies there, though, and they're not registered. They don't appear in /list
03:37 masterofmonks Odd, because I am in :all of those, and they are registered.
03:37 masterofmonks What an odd place for a misplaced colon.
03:38 astro73|mal huh.
03:38 masterofmonks -ChanServ- Information on #tgg:tutoring:
03:38 masterofmonks -ChanServ- Founder    : masterofmonks, Seroster, Batsteve
03:38 masterofmonks -ChanServ- Successor  : freenode-staff
03:38 masterofmonks -ChanServ- Registered : Nov 17 22:17:36 2011 (3 days, 05:19:12 ago)
03:38 masterofmonks -ChanServ- Mode lock  : +ntc-slk
03:38 masterofmonks -ChanServ- Flags      : GUARD
03:38 masterofmonks -ChanServ- *** End of Info ***
03:41 astro73|mal i believe you
03:42 astro73|mal xchat just didn't tell me about it
03:42 masterofmonks Ah.
03:42 eadthem PandoraClient - Led Zeppelin - Kashmir
03:42 Toastdude Bye all
03:42 masterofmonks Default list in x-chat does not list channels with fewer than three users.
03:43 astro73|mal oh, ok. you win
03:43 * masterofmonks blinks.
03:43 masterofmonks There was a competition?
03:44 astro73|mal ... i guess not
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04:01 Druidic_Rifleman ugh i dislike web client irc
04:02 astro73|mal why use it?
04:03 Druidic_Rifleman Don't know what non web client to get
04:03 Cprossu ToriJ: PM
04:04 astro73|mal ... start trying them?
04:06 astro73|mal I use xchat on linux. I've previously used pidgin and trillian
04:10 Druidic_Rifleman I know a few peple who use Xchat
04:13 masterofmonks You need to buy the licence for Windows.
04:13 masterofmonks For the official version that is, there is however a fork that you can use.
04:13 GuardianZozo xchat 2 (aka Ychat) is free
04:13 masterofmonks http://www.silverex.org/download/
04:13 BotSteve Title: X-Chat 2 for Windows
04:14 eadthem i beleve at this point im so addicted to mirc  ile prob take it with me to nix via wine
04:14 eadthem ither that or irssi
04:14 masterofmonks mIRC makes me want to hurt people.
04:14 masterofmonks ... a lot.
04:14 GuardianZozo lol
04:15 masterofmonks There is just something about it that makes me angry, and I can't relly identify it.
04:15 eadthem its not bloated,  its fast, it dosent have a cartoonish interface.  its a trifecta
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04:16 astro73|mal i wish "doesn't have a cartoonish interface" wasn't such a big plus
04:16 eadthem speaking of  you tryed the new version of ms office
04:17 eadthem that makes me want to hurt pepole
04:20 astro73|mal speaking of wanting to hurt people....
04:20 astro73|mal I think i finally wrote myself into a corner on this one
04:20 eadthem post your code  ile trade ya bugs :p    im feeling the same way right now
04:21 astro73|mal https://github.com/astronouth7303/tgg-BotSteve/blob/nicktracker/modules/nicktracker.py
04:21 BotSteve Title: modules/nicktracker.py at nicktracker from astronouth7303/tgg-BotSteve - GitHub
04:21 astro73|mal for some reason, getalts() returns two empty lists
04:21 astro73|mal always
04:21 astro73|mal even though it's not supposed to
04:21 astro73|mal good luck with that
04:23 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/ring/src/ringBuffer.h
04:23 eadthem Error1error C2079: 'dataContainer<templateType>::data' uses undefined class 'templateType'd:\programming\ring\src\ringBuffer.h9
04:23 * eadthem opens nicktracker.py
04:24 astro73|mal do you have to say "class templateType" in type declarations?
04:25 eadthem its templateing
04:25 eadthem so you can use this with any type, object, struct...
04:25 astro73|mal right, i understand the concept
04:26 eadthem i dont know if i have to say class
04:26 eadthem tbh
04:26 astro73|mal it's just one of those things C(++) can be funny about
04:26 eadthem 1 to 24 errors
04:27 astro73|mal probably not then
04:27 eadthem btw everytime i hit build it republishes it to the server
04:28 eadthem astro73|mal line 140  have it printout all the stuff in  self.accounts[]
04:28 eadthem maby its empty
04:30 astro73|mal it should be really big
04:31 astro73|mal but way easier than plan b: move it to sqlite
04:31 eadthem just thinking thats how i would debug it if it wer in php
04:31 eadthem print out all the crap
04:32 astro73|mal it's true
04:33 astro73|mal i could also load it up in a debugger and just stick in a break point
04:33 eadthem ive yet to get a working debugger for php
04:33 eadthem of corse i run it on my nix server and write it on my win desktop
04:33 eadthem im sure that causes an issue or 3
04:34 tonsofpcs yawn
04:34 astro73|mal yeah
04:35 astro73|mal I usually try to debug software on my own machine; saves a lot of time saving
04:35 eadthem vim /var/log/apache2/final.servegame.com-error_log.log  FTW
04:35 eadthem same network so servers as fast as a local disk
04:44 astro73|mal if you say so
04:45 astro73|mal found it. somehow, half of it was getting deleted sometimes.
04:46 astro73|mal so i just made sure the sometimes didn't happen
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04:54 astro73|mal welcome back
04:54 Katemonster .weather ojai
04:54 BotSteve Clear ☼, 7℃, 1019mb, Fog, Calm 0kt (↑) - OJAI, 04:00Z
04:55 astro73|mal have a good shower?
04:57 astro73|mal .... am I the only one that connects from multiple devices?
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05:08 astro73|mal i guess i'll let that chill and see if i can collect any data
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05:16 astro73|mal BotSteve, ask Cprossu if you could bang on tell and seen for me. Although I've got a feeling that it won't be as robust this time.
05:16 BotSteve astro73|mal: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
05:28 egrsteve .seen cprossu*
05:28 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen cprossu* around.
05:28 egrsteve :(
05:29 astro73|mal wildcards got vetoed, remember?
05:33 astro73|mal .seen Cprossu
05:33 BotSteve astro73|mal: I last saw cprossu 1.49 hours ago at 2011-11-21 04:03:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:33:12 UTC
05:33 astro73-bot IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/astronouth7303/code/tgg-BotSteve/modules/seen.py", line 58, in <lambda>)
05:33 egrsteve need wildcards with response limits
05:33 astro73|mal they did have reponse limits
05:33 egrsteve return 3 5 most recent if more then 1
05:34 egrsteve * 3 to 5
05:35 BatSteve is there still a pull request for wildcards?  I was willing to pull them, I just wanted it to be a stepping-stone on the way to something better
05:35 egrsteve that  could minize risk
05:35 astro73|mal that's still there
05:35 astro73|mal and the something better is coming
05:35 astro73|mal as soon as i debug the 1000 lines of code i've written this weekend
05:35 eadthem got it figured out
05:36 egrsteve ok, if you can do better than wildcards entertain me when your ready
05:36 eadthem char ringBuffer<class templateType>::startWriteToSlot(dataContainer<templateType> data)  was wrong
05:36 eadthem template <class templateType> char ringBuffer<templateType>::startWriteToSlot(dataContainer<templateType> data)  was right
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05:37 egrsteve .seen astro73-bot
05:37 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw astro73-bot 0.07 hours ago at 2011-11-21 05:33:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:37:41 UTC
05:37 astro73-bot NameError: global name 'self' is not defined (file "/home/astronouth7303/code/tgg-BotSteve/modules/seen.py", line 40, in f_seen)
05:38 egrsteve i broke your bot, sorry
05:38 astro73|mal no, that's some conversion i missed
05:38 astro73|mal and breaking is good
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05:40 egrsteve .seen astro73-bot
05:40 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw astro73-bot 0.04 hours ago at 2011-11-21 05:37:44 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:40:00 UTC
05:44 astro73|mal ... somehow, I'm getting into cprossu's info
05:44 BatSteve hmm
05:44 BatSteve hmm
05:44 egrsteve hmm
05:44 BatSteve hey astro
05:45 BatSteve astro73|mal: I pulled the "greeting code" request - now I'm getting AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'datastore'
05:46 astro73|mal that's odd
05:46 astro73|mal replace datastore with storage?
05:46 astro73|mal ... where?
05:47 BatSteve nope, no attribute "storage" either.  Bot.py, line 64
05:48 astro73|mal ... i didn't even modify that
05:48 BatSteve I know
05:48 BatSteve it's very confusing
05:48 astro73|mal oh
05:49 astro73|mal that would be because you don't have 'datastore' in your config
05:49 astro73|mal so that should be changed to getattr(config, 'datastore', 'jsonfile')
05:50 BatSteve ahh, default.py is untracked by git
05:50 BatSteve gotcha
05:50 BatSteve wait
05:50 BatSteve no
05:50 astro73|mal no?
05:51 BatSteve I'm thinking slow tonight, just a sec
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05:53 astro73|mal .seen Cprossu
05:53 astro73|mal oh, right. botsteve is gone.
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05:53 astro73|mal BatSteve, also, I did something wrong in one of the default values. It needs to be changed either in-file or in the store
05:54 BatSteve the seroster one
05:54 BatSteve yeah
05:54 BatSteve I saw
05:54 BatSteve already fixed, thank you for the line note
05:55 egrsteve another thought to add
05:55 egrsteve when someone speaks after a long period of inactivity have botsteve comment about being bored or something humorious
05:56 egrsteve like a greet but anyone speaking after maybe an hour+ of no activity
05:56 astro73|mal file a bug and label it Valve Time
05:57 egrsteve me or bat?
05:57 BatSteve astro73|mal: I'm not catching on to what getattr(config, 'datastore', 'jsonfile') needs to replace
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05:57 egrsteve anyway ttyl, I need sleep
05:57 BatSteve is it all of line 63-66?
05:58 astro73|mal BatSteve, just "config.datastore"
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05:59 Seroster BatSteve, You don't have to understand, JUST DO IT DAMNIT!
05:59 douglas hai every poney
06:00 Seroster http://xkcd.com/979/ < That brings a tear to my eye =)
06:00 BatSteve hey douglas!
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06:02 BatSteve .seen Seroster
06:02 astro73|mal got it fixed then?
06:02 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw seroster 78.29 hours ago at 2011-11-17 23:44:25 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 06:02:00 UTC
06:02 BatSteve there we go
06:02 BatSteve .seen astro73|mal
06:02 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw astro73|mal 0.00 hours ago at 2011-11-21 06:02:02 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:02:13 UTC
06:02 BatSteve good deal
06:03 Seroster BatSteve, your bot is broken.
06:03 Seroster IM RIGHT HERE
06:03 astro73|mal .seen Seroster
06:03 BotSteve astro73|mal: I last saw seroster 0.01 hours ago at 2011-11-21 06:03:21 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:03:45 UTC
06:03 astro73|mal no it isn't
06:03 astro73|mal it works
06:03 Seroster And I last wrote in tgg:nsfw six hours ago
06:04 Seroster Ah, you rebooted with a three day old .seen?
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06:05 astro73|mal hopefully, that's the last fix. I'd like to get the laundry off my bed so i can use it
06:05 astro73|mal but these bugs keep appearing
06:05 Seroster Erm...
06:05 Seroster You got bugs in your clothes?
06:05 BatSteve screw them.  go to bed astro
06:05 astro73|mal i hope not!
06:05 Seroster Maybe you should take a break from the coding and take a shower?
06:05 BatSteve (:
06:05 BatSteve what Seroster said
06:06 astro73|mal BatSteve, btw, nicktracker is far enough along I got seen and tell using it.
06:07 astro73|mal i'm tempted to use it to nag people to log in
06:09 BatSteve But..but..what about the Principle of Least Annoyance?  ("Thou shalt write your code in a way that causes the users to annoy BatSteve the least")
06:09 astro73|mal oh yeah
06:09 astro73|mal best not to, then
06:10 BatSteve :P
06:11 astro73|mal but yeah, if you run seen on astro73-bot, it'll print a pile of nicks
06:11 BatSteve I blame you for all of this.  I had *just* gotten everyone trained to accept the bot as-is.  The only thing anyone expected from here on out was .food additions...now they want new features and stuff!
06:11 BatSteve (wink)
06:11 astro73|mal yup
06:11 BatSteve .seen douglas
06:11 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw douglas 78.31 hours ago at 2011-11-17 23:52:52 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:11:31 UTC
06:11 astro73|mal that's me. destroying the status quo
06:11 BatSteve hm.
06:12 BatSteve .seen astro73-bot
06:12 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw astro73-bot 0.00 hours ago at 2011-11-21 06:12:08 UTC on #tgg-bots.  Current time: 06:12:17 UTC
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06:16 BatSteve all right, I'm going to bed.  astro73, I recommend you do the same
06:16 BatSteve sleep is for the weak, and I feel puny
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06:20 BatSteve astro73|mal: when you rejoin -bots you should be +O
06:20 NeWtoz I see how it is!
06:20 NeWtoz the man is always keeping a brother down
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06:38 Seroster BörkBörkBörk.
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07:32 Druidic_Rifleman wow a 350 dollar hiking stick...
07:33 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.crawfordknives.com/DAVE%20CANTERBURY.htm
07:33 BotSteve Title: SURVIVAL STAFF CNATERRBURY
07:52 killakee hmm
07:54 Druidic_Rifleman Interesting usefull but worht the money? discuss
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08:03 Druidic_Rifleman no ones around sigh
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08:16 LemPhone bleh, sweaty lemming
08:17 LemPhone just rode to the train station then stood on the platform for 5 minutes
08:19 LemPhone and it would seem the aircon is not working on this train :-(
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08:33 killakee <Druidic_Rifleman: no deffinitive no... you can buy a gun for thet price... build one yourself ;)
08:36 killakee buy the Druidic_Rifleman walkingstick of death +2 ! now with internal easy to use deathray!
08:36 Druidic_Rifleman ummm I can almost buy 2 guns
08:37 killakee yes just what i thought.. rather have a rifle than a walkingstick
08:39 NeWtoz but you can't use a gun as a walking stick!
08:39 NeWtoz walking sticks are important
08:39 killakee heh how old are you ? 73?
08:40 NeWtoz heh, I'm just messing around
08:40 killakee ;)
08:41 LemPhone newtoz, you can get walking sticks that are guns though!
08:42 killakee wheeeeeh! week 2 of not smoking thaks to the geek group :D
08:42 LemPhone well done
08:42 LemPhone using an ecig?
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08:51 LemPhone having some connection issues there y007?
08:51 y007ghg7 yep
08:51 y007ghg7 rain + my shitty phone company = slow internet or no connection at all
08:52 LemPhone heh
08:52 y007ghg7 ive called them tons of times but they wont do anythign about it
08:52 LemPhone my phone company is ok, helps to be on a staff plan :-P
08:52 LemPhone even though I am not staff
08:54 LemPhone my phone is dying though
08:55 LemPhone I really want a Motorola Droid 3 to replace this one
08:55 LemPhone would be so nice
09:05 angy Boo!
09:05 LemPhone ...
09:11 LemPhone oh... was I supposed to be scared?
09:11 * LemPhone staggers and falls over
09:11 killakee iiiiik
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09:25 angy .cookie killakee
09:25 BotSteve Here you go, killakee, I baked you an almond cookie!
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09:55 killakee thanks
09:55 killakee :)
09:55 killakee oh man i can see that my internet dont like my teslacoil :P
09:55 killakee everytime i use it i loose connection :P
09:55 y007ghg7 lol
09:56 y007ghg7 i bet every other wireless thing in the house loses connection too
09:57 killakee hehe well no actualy thats kind of weird..
09:57 killakee i think i have to start using a earth spear :P
09:57 sndwrx wow, there's life in here.
09:57 killakee i only use mains earth
09:58 killakee hi sndwrx
09:58 sndwrx mornin'
09:58 sndwrx ...or whatever time it is in your neck of the woods.
09:59 killakee yes its morning :)
09:59 killakee 10:59
10:06 Druidic_Rifleman i wonder how buch shit i'd get in if the OPP caught me with a Piece of copper pipe in the woods...
10:06 Druidic_Rifleman it's technically a blow gun
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10:12 y007ghg7 idk if it is morning or night for me...
10:12 y007ghg7 its 4:12 AM but i havent slept
10:17 killakee hate those nights
10:17 killakee :S
10:18 sndwrx well.
10:22 NeWtoz well, your clock is off an hour
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11:58 y007ghg7 killakee, are you playing with your tesla coil....?
11:58 killakee hehe yes
11:59 killakee i think i have to move it a little
11:59 y007ghg7 lol
12:00 killakee need to get my hackerspace done :S
12:00 y007ghg7 i wish there was a hackerspace closer to me....
12:01 killakee yes ..
12:01 killakee where are you from ?
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12:02 killakee hi super
12:02 y007ghg7 oklahoma
12:02 SuperPhosphate Hello
12:04 killakee ah.. well atleast your contry has hackerspaces :P
12:04 y007ghg7 :p
12:04 killakee i havent found one here in norway
12:05 killakee what does MOV stand for ?
12:06 killakee in electronics
12:06 killakee never mind :)
12:06 SuperPhosphate did you work MOV out?
12:06 SuperPhosphate what does it mean
12:07 sndwrx What is the context?
12:07 killakee metal oxide varisstor
12:07 killakee MOV's are Metal Oxide Varistors. They have a rating so that when a larger voltage occurs, they break down allowing the voltage to short
12:08 killakee :)
12:08 SuperPhosphate ah cool
12:08 killakee i want 20
12:08 killakee :)
12:11 killakee the voltage of my primary coil goes tru nearly 4 mm plastik pipe :S
12:11 killakee there must be carbon in that plastik
12:12 killakee plastic i mean
12:13 killakee didnt think that would be a issiue with only 6 kv
12:13 SuperPhosphate yes there has to be something in it, plastic to too neutral to make a short
12:14 killakee it issnt shorting .. it jumps tru it end inn to the secondary coil
12:14 killakee so its jumping 2 cm of air and tru the plastic..
12:14 killakee :O
12:14 SuperPhosphate wow
12:15 SuperPhosphate how can it do that?
12:15 killakee yeah just my thought
12:16 killakee but lucky for me i had 3 other primarys already made :)
12:16 SuperPhosphate do they need replacing if they short=
12:17 killakee well not my magnetwire :) its from an old 34kv transformer ;)
12:17 SuperPhosphate cool
12:17 killakee but i just figured out what happens :)
12:18 killakee it works as a smal lidonjar
12:18 killakee lyden i mean
12:18 Druidic_Rifleman killakee start your own hakerspace
12:19 killakee druidic_riflaman: im working on it ;)
12:19 killakee its done in the spring :)
12:20 Druidic_Rifleman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copenhagen_Suborbitals i mean
12:20 BotSteve Title: Copenhagen Suborbitals - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
12:20 Druidic_Rifleman if this guy can manage what he'
12:20 Druidic_Rifleman s mannaged
12:20 SuperPhosphate ah yes I get it, so it just stores it up like a capacitor
12:20 SuperPhosphate and releases it when needed
12:21 killakee jupp thats right
12:21 SuperPhosphate cool
12:21 killakee scary as **** it made a LOT of noise :D
12:22 killakee but im off a little .. have a nice one .. talk to you later :)
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12:30 SuperPhosphate Im off, bye :)
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12:56 egrsteve another quiet monday mornign on IRC
13:00 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
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13:03 exor674 so totally random question
13:03 exor674 \if you drop a closed can of cola into the ocean, what will happen to it
13:06 dbshortwave wont be quet for long
13:07 egrsteve exor674 diet or regular
13:07 exor674 egrsteve: regular! but I doubt it's relevant
13:07 egrsteve in fresh water diet floats, regular sinks idk about salt water
13:08 exor674 heh, yeah, I was thinking more about when the exterior pressure starts trying to crush the can
13:08 egrsteve if diet it would float, even regular may float if salt content is high enough
13:08 egrsteve so crushing may not be an issue
13:08 exor674 heh.
13:09 egrsteve and you just went from crushing depths to it may float
13:09 egrsteve sorry
13:10 egrsteve next time you have a cooler full of pop ansd ice water with a mix of regular and diet take not, the diet will be at the top
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13:21 yNos :D
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13:21 yNos moin moin all
13:25 dbshortwave_ morning yNos
13:30 yNos hows it going?
13:31 * egrsteve yawns
13:31 exor674 egrsteve: belatedly. I try to keep diet soda WELL away from me
13:32 egrsteve that is a good diet soda policy
13:32 egrsteve morning ynos
13:33 egrsteve also Ya two day school week which means today is my only class day
13:34 egrsteve then i work and an over due break
13:34 yNos and an over?
13:35 egrsteve Ynos, antenna anylizer & lcr meter correct
13:35 yNos yup
13:35 egrsteve over due, past due
13:35 egrsteve break needed a week ago
13:35 yNos so tues could be a better day to attack this.
13:36 egrsteve no, I still work till 8
13:36 yNos we need to get it during the day.
13:36 yNos gah
13:36 egrsteve tuesday is a LONG day for me
13:36 yNos what day would work out best?
13:37 egrsteve maybe later this week I can find time
13:37 egrsteve friday or saturday
13:38 egrsteve i suppose would be best
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13:39 * yNos looks at the wx rprt
13:40 LemLap ello all
13:42 egrsteve ello lem
13:42 LemLap how goes it?
13:42 egrsteve firday should be mostly dry, I hope
13:42 egrsteve bored in class, how goes you?
13:43 LemLap not too bad
13:43 LemLap out at the parents place for a very belated birthday dinner
13:43 egrsteve not bad, if it's dinner time you must be in AU
13:45 LemLap it's well past dinner time
13:46 LemLap and yes, I am in AU
13:46 LemLap btw, when ever you see "Lem<insert suffix here>" it's a safe bet that it is me (Sgt_Lemming) online somewhere away from home
13:47 egrsteve I figured that
13:47 egrsteve ttyl
13:47 LemLap kk
13:47 LemLap have fun
13:47 egrsteve no, I have a quiz, related rates :(
13:48 LemLap heh
14:02 Monkeh yNos: Post that slow over there?
14:02 yNos eh?
14:02 Monkeh yNos: Assuming the stuff hasn't arrived yet
14:02 yNos oh
14:02 yNos not yet
14:03 yNos 3-7 business days.
14:03 Monkeh Ah, the joys of a small country.
14:03 Monkeh :)
14:03 LemLap ...?
14:04 Monkeh LemLap: Nothing. ;)
14:04 yNos shipping conf came in @ Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:19:48 +0000 (UTC)
14:04 Monkeh Next day or two then hopefully
14:05 LemLap one of the things I like about post here Monkeh?
14:06 Monkeh LemLap: You know it'll take weeks to turn up no matter what?
14:06 LemLap AUD$1000 or less imports are duty and tax free
14:06 yNos https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction_input?qtc_tLabels1=9102969010386469934979&amp;qtc_senddate1=&amp;qtc_zipcode1=
14:06 BotSteve Title: USPS.com® - Track & Confirm
14:09 LemLap wow, there's an epic fail right there
14:09 LemLap same website in two different browsers gives two different total prices..
14:09 yNos grr.. Monkeh - http://www.ups-mi.net/PackageId/packageid.aspx?pid=9102969010386469934979
14:09 BotSteve Title: Package ID Results
14:10 yNos i went to usps indtead of ups..
14:10 yNos ahh.. it is a blend of ups and usps..
14:10 yNos it should be here today.
14:11 Monkeh yNos: A blend of fail and more fail
14:11 sbp yNos: siarad Cymraeg?
14:12 yNos not worth a poop
14:12 yNos sbp: ^^
14:12 Monkeh Quick, hide your sheep!
14:12 yNos my great-grandfather grew up near Craig-y-Nos
14:12 sbp dw i eisiau siarad Cymraeg eto, ond dw i'n dysgu yn araf
14:12 sbp cool
14:13 yNos and my name is craig.. so he called my yNos growing up.
14:13 sbp hehe
14:13 yNos i know a few words, but let google xlate do the work
14:14 sbp ie, dw i'n gwybod only a few geiriau too :-)
14:15 Monkeh Disappointing. Google don't do Cornish.
14:15 yNos the grammar is a bit confusing..
14:16 sbp I know, the cheek of it. they do Sawznek but not Kernowek!
14:16 sbp grammar's confusing in English too, we just got inculcated into it from an early age I suppose
14:16 Monkeh We should all just learn Klingon.
14:17 yNos fersure
14:17 sbp worse is the English orthography. people complain about lenition in Welsh and other Celtic languages, but man the English orthography is bizarre
14:17 yNos is kernowek still a live language?
14:17 sbp you see a word like "chough" and it could be pronounced any one of half a dozen ways
14:17 Monkeh yNos: Barely.
14:17 sbp it died in the 18th century, but they're reviving it
14:17 Monkeh yNos: They've tried to kill it. They've failed.
14:17 sbp heheh
14:17 sbp nationalism. still lurking in the provinces
14:18 Monkeh Cornwall has a long history of independence! :P
14:18 LemLap ah, I do so love teamviewer
14:18 LemLap so handy
14:18 sbp if the Tamar were a bit longer they could be independent from the island too
14:19 sbp I'm all for it of course, I like all the Brythonic languages
14:19 sbp go team p-branch!
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14:20 yNos becausereally-whoneedsaspacebar?
14:20 Monkeh yNos: Indeed
14:20 sbp totallywhynotbeagglutinative
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14:21 sbp English is not entirely isolating anyway
14:21 sbp Nigerian English is more isolating than standard British English
14:21 sbp and we have crazy words like "trusteeship"
14:21 sbp with stems and affixes from three different sources, etymologically
14:21 sbp (and the famous case of television, more of a portmanteau though)
14:22 sbp languages. IT"S AWESOME, BITCHES
14:22 yNos YARP
14:22 yNos etymology is interesting.
14:22 sbp I was wondering the other day why collocations and fossil expressions don't lose their spaces
14:22 sbp though I'll bet in some cases they do, hard to conjure up examples
14:23 sbp like, if we had hemanaw instead of hem and haw
14:23 sbp because the constituents are no longer transferrable outside of the fossilised context
14:23 sbp (unless you're talking about a donkey wearing a skirt)
14:24 Monkeh sbp: And with that, the discussion became disturbing.
14:24 * yNos shudders at the thought of a donkey show...
14:24 sbp welcome to internets
14:24 yNos and there is nothing wrong with a little A2M in the heat of the moment.
14:24 Monkeh sbp: No need to welcome me, been here for ten years. Still confused, frightened, and vulnerable.
14:25 sbp
14:25 Monkeh sbp: Can you try that in a symbol I can display?
14:25 sbp http://decodeunicode.org/en/u+32e1
14:25 BotSteve Title: decodeunicode.org . decode . CIRCLED KATAKANA TU
14:26 Monkeh Right
14:26 yNos Unicode Character 'CIRCLED KATAKANA TU' (U+32E1)
14:26 sbp I went crazy one day when somebody used some unicode that I couldn't read, and installed dozens of fonts covering thousands of codepoints. all kinds of bizarre things, even stuff in the astral plane (outside the BMP)
14:27 sbp so now if somebody pastes a character that my computer can't render, I go especially mad, hulkstyleé
14:28 Monkeh sbp: I speak English. I require no strange fonts. :)
14:28 sbp I even have all the Chinese stuff covered, 20 MB ttfs and shizz
14:28 sbp well, even English has words like crème brûlée and façade
14:29 sbp but they shouldn't require strange fonts
14:30 Monkeh sbp: They're borrowed from other languages.
14:30 Monkeh sbp: Those are not actually English words
14:30 sbp heh, on fossilisation, a Spanish friend just pointed out that de dónde means de de unde originally, so the particle "de" is in there three times
14:30 sbp sure they're English, we naturalised the crap out of 'em!
14:31 sbp we can have diacritics, we often do. coöperation, for example
14:31 sbp or rôle
14:37 * yNos has a bagel with creme cheese and capers..
14:37 yNos never had capers before.
14:37 * yNos prefers pickles
14:45 yNos the thought of capers must kill a chat.
14:46 Monkeh yNos: No, but if it could kill this Dragon, I'd appreciate it.
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14:57 Seroster^Away ARGH
14:58 Seroster You know what I dreamt this morning?
14:58 yNos your p3n15 was so big it touched the floor..
14:58 yNos because you had no legs?
14:59 Seroster CLASSMATES: Y U STOPID?!
15:00 Seroster "Right, you have been here since august... Can any one of you people styding to become electricians tell me what the difference of AC and DC is?"
15:01 Seroster "No?..."
15:01 Seroster "Can anyone tell me how to plug in a multimeter to measure amps?"
15:01 Seroster ... I want a medal for not stabbing them with a ph2.
15:03 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 11-20-11 DRSSTC, Plasma Cutter, Strobes and Siren for Geek-1 http://youtu.be/yi3shxFH2CY
15:05 SparkyProjects Seroster, AC or DC ?
15:05 SparkyProjects And will the meter cover the range you want
15:05 yNos Anti-Copulation or Direct-Copulation?
15:05 yNos derp
15:06 SparkyProjects AC milan or Washington DC :P
15:06 yNos cuz we'iz colleg kids, n copulation contolld by bier is whta colage is 'bout
15:06 Seroster SparkyProjects, The jackoffs cant even tell the difference between ac and dc
15:08 SparkyProjects Ah, i didn't read back that this was about college, was watching blog :P
15:08 yNos ac is like wiminz
15:08 yNos dc is lime men
15:08 yNos **like
15:09 Seroster So... Men make metals corrode, and women change all the time?
15:10 yNos well.. we are generally corrosive and dont really change a whole lot, women change all the time.
15:11 Monkeh I certainly have a bad effect on alu.
15:11 yNos some AC is well rounded, some is a bit more.. malformed.
15:11 yNos s/is/are/
15:12 yNos searchreplace fail
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15:37 yNos wutwtu
15:37 yNos bah. ghetto fail
15:42 yNos anyone in GR area want to join me at Lindo on 28th/DeHoop(ish)?
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15:44 Seroster .seen kidwell
15:44 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen kidwell around.
15:45 yNos he goes by something else..
15:45 Seroster Yes
15:45 Seroster Something bomber.
15:45 Seroster .seen *bomber
15:45 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen *bomber around.
15:47 yNos .seen tmbomber
15:47 BotSteve yNos: I last saw tmbomber 160.69 hours ago at 2011-11-14 23:06:02 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 15:47:24 UTC
15:50 yNos Wonder if he knew timothy mcveigh
15:55 Cprossu gello all
15:55 Cprossu *hello
15:55 Seroster Ahoy Cprossu
15:55 Cprossu and morning
15:55 Seroster SparkyProjects, are you there?
15:55 SparkyProjects yep
15:55 Cprossu yNos what's up?
15:55 yNos not a whole lot
15:55 Seroster Old ceiling fan, inductive motor.
15:56 Cprossu SparkyProjects: I think your friend is good for now (I hopes)
15:56 * egrsteve yawns, again
15:56 yNos and again
15:56 yNos and again
15:56 Seroster If I put it on a pole, would that work like a wind power plant?
15:56 * Cprossu yawns
15:56 SparkyProjects Thanks, Niobe said yu'd fixed the problem :)
15:56 Cprossu we dumped him on another DNS and ran combofix for good luck
15:57 Av_Nekoroms dang how do i install an os to an proliant ml370
15:58 Cprossu Av_Nekoroms: Trial and error is my guess
15:58 Av_Nekoroms not working
15:59 Av_Nekoroms it has mandriva linux in it
15:59 Av_Nekoroms but its broken
15:59 SparkyProjects Seroster, there are several videos of people using ceiling fans for power, i can't remember if they had to add magnets, go check them out
15:59 Cprossu what are you trying to install on it?
15:59 Av_Nekoroms windows
15:59 Cprossu what version?
15:59 Av_Nekoroms but i cannot even get that for
15:59 Av_Nekoroms *far
16:00 Cprossu what version?
16:00 Av_Nekoroms dunno how to boot the setup
16:00 Av_Nekoroms Cprossu: server 2008
16:00 Seroster SparkyProjects, Righto.
16:00 Seroster It already got a few blades on the right angle on a motor <3
16:01 Av_Nekoroms only thing i can do is boot right into the linux
16:01 Cprossu does your internal optical drive work Av_Nekoroms?
16:01 Av_Nekoroms Cprossu: no idea
16:01 Cprossu try booting an ultimate boot cd
16:01 Av_Nekoroms i would if i knew how to boot something
16:02 Av_Nekoroms else than the hd
16:02 Cprossu go into the bios?
16:02 SparkyProjects Seroster, i think if i was doing it i may twist the blades to give more of an angle to the wind
16:02 Av_Nekoroms Cprossu: cd drive is the first boot option
16:02 Seroster SparkyProjects, I was more interested if it was possible =P
16:03 SparkyProjects Yess it's possible
16:03 Av_Nekoroms Cprossu: but now i'm off to install mb drivers
16:03 Cprossu how is that going to help you if you can't boot to the setup cd Av_Nekoroms?!
16:04 sndwrx ha.
16:04 yNos SparkyProjects - am coming into this halfway.. are you designing a windmill?
16:07 sndwrx 60 degrees F really shouldn't feel this cold.
16:07 sndwrx But something is screwy with the HVAC system and it's freezing in here.
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16:11 SparkyProjects yNos, Seroster asked if it was possible to use a ceiling fan for a wind gen.
16:12 yNos ahh
16:13 yNos one of my "i cant sleep so i will think" things i roll through is how to make a cetntrifugal-variable pitch blade system for windmills..
16:15 yNos like a spark-advance unit in a mechanical dizzy to make sure the unit doesnt over-rev
16:17 * yNos has the melody of "Manic Depression" stuck in his head.
16:17 yNos gdamn npr bg music samples.
16:19 Av_Nekoroms second computer up now
16:19 Av_Nekoroms need to figure out the proliant
16:22 yNos nothing a pint of gasoline cant fix
16:24 Av_Nekoroms yNos: it was a free computer from a pharmacy
16:25 dbshortwave netsplit?
16:25 * Isopropyl|Media is back to floppies
16:25 * dbshortwave shrugs
16:26 Cheezmo Lol, I think Christwire.org got a case of the DDoS
16:27 Cheezmo likely from the slander against Canada being resource hoarding christian-haters
16:27 Isopropyl|Media lol
16:27 Cheezmo we don't hoard, we mine it a lot
16:27 Cheezmo we do a buttload of aluminum
16:28 Cheezmo so much so that the Alcan plant here in BC has it's own hyrdo-electric dam
16:28 Isopropyl|Media damn
16:28 Cheezmo yuhp
16:29 Av_Nekoroms remote desktopping to another computer is weird :)
16:29 Cheezmo it can be, though perhaps one day I'll get myself a dedicated server running in my house
16:30 Av_Nekoroms i have :)
16:32 sndwrx Av_Nekoroms: You got the ML370 free from a pharmacy?
16:32 Av_Nekoroms ye
16:32 sndwrx Very cool.  What are its specs?
16:32 Av_Nekoroms 1333mhz and 512memory and 18,9 gig drives x 2
16:33 Av_Nekoroms there is one empty processor socket
16:33 sndwrx ooh.  It's an old generation.
16:33 Av_Nekoroms ye
16:33 Av_Nekoroms g3 or g2
16:33 sndwrx And you want to install Win Server 2k8?
16:33 * yNos thinks its lunchtime
16:33 Av_Nekoroms sndwrx: its within minimum specs
16:33 sndwrx I'm thinking g2 since many of the G3 were greater than 2GHz Xeons, IIRC.
16:34 sndwrx Av_Nekoroms: Am I mistaken in the thought that 2k8 is for 64-bit systems only?
16:34 Av_Nekoroms but i'm just experimenting
16:34 Av_Nekoroms sndwrx: nope its both
16:34 Monkeh Av_Nekoroms: A Tualatin? Slowness.
16:35 sndwrx hmm.  Must be a specific version of 2k8 that I had briefly entertained the notion of playing with.
16:35 Av_Nekoroms i might put a server 2003 if i can
16:35 sndwrx I'm certain there's something about 2k8 and 64-bit only.
16:35 Cheezmo So the keen workmanship of local contractors from the native band across the lake took a turn for the worse after their rye gread construction fell apart yesterday morning
16:35 Cheezmo http://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story--101-.htm
16:35 BotSteve Title: West Kelowna News - Castanet.net
16:35 Cheezmo rye bread*
16:36 Monkeh Av_Nekoroms: 2008 or 2008 R2?
16:36 Cheezmo Looking at the damage, it really doesn't look like there was much of anything holding it together
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16:39 * egrsteve is hungry and lunch isn't till 1
16:40 Cheezmo sneak a shack?
16:40 Cheezmo stupid n grew an extra limb...
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16:47 egrsteve anything interesting happening
16:47 Isopropyl|Media i'm back to floppies
16:48 Monkeh egrsteve: Dragons and hagravens and fire.
16:48 Isopropyl|Media and goblin hoardes
16:48 Isopropyl|Media roll your fort
16:49 Monkeh Isopropyl|Media: Well I'm rolling into a fort.
16:52 killaway got primary? : https://picasaweb.google.com/113523762197653234689/Teslafun#5677492737977462546
16:52 egrsteve fire might be fun
16:54 egrsteve although setting fire in a classroom is geneally not culturaly acceptable
16:55 sndwrx killaway: "Sorry, that page was not found."
16:57 * egrsteve is still hungry
16:59 Cheezmo .pie egrsteve
16:59 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I made you a curry chicken pie!
16:59 Monkeh BOOOOOO!
17:00 killaway hmmm..
17:02 killaway whats the use off picasa if you dont get the adress to share fotos ?
17:02 Seroster .c 6'8'' to sane
17:02 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:02 Seroster ...
17:02 Seroster .c 6'8'' to metric
17:02 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:02 Seroster ...
17:02 Seroster .c six foot eight inches to metric
17:02 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:02 Seroster OH MOTHERF....
17:03 Cheezmo .c 6'8" to Seroster
17:03 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:03 Cheezmo hm
17:03 Seroster astro73|mal, ARGH! BOT! EVIL! FIX!
17:03 Monkeh .c 6 foot eight inches to meters
17:03 BotSteve 2.03200 meters
17:03 Monkeh Seroster: You suck.
17:03 sndwrx .c 80 inches to meters
17:03 BotSteve 2.03200 meters
17:03 * sndwrx snickers.
17:03 Seroster ... Yes, But only people I really like.
17:04 Monkeh sndwrx: Too slow.
17:04 Vladdeh metres :(
17:04 Seroster I hate you so much sndwrx =P
17:04 * sndwrx grins.
17:04 Monkeh .c 80 inches to nanometers
17:04 BotSteve 2 032 000 000 nanometers
17:04 egrsteve .c Pi/Tau
17:04 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:04 Seroster Vladdeh, A measurement system that makes sense? RUN!
17:04 Seroster .c PI to the last digit
17:04 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:05 egrsteve .c Pi to 100 digits
17:05 Monkeh .c pi to 256 digits
17:05 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:05 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:05 killaway i love meters.. not that foot thing :)
17:05 Monkeh Fail!
17:05 Cheezmo Seroster, I think Botsteve would be flood-banned :P
17:05 sndwrx Surprise, surprise.  It appears this Edubuntu install has frozen.
17:05 Vladdeh i was pointing out the sillyness that the one country that doesn't even use the metric system, spells metre/meter differently to everyone else :p
17:05 Monkeh sndwrx: lolbuntu.
17:05 sndwrx OH!  Spoke too soon.
17:05 Seroster BotSteve: tell batsteve When you tell the bot .c PI to the last digit it should give you "ERROR ERROR ERROR *360headspin* ERROR ERROR ERROR"
17:05 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when batsteve is around.
17:05 Seroster .c 5/0
17:05 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:05 Seroster BotSteve: tell batsteve Same for Dividing by zero, because we are geeks.
17:05 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when batsteve is around.
17:06 egrsteve or have divide by zero return infinity
17:06 Cheezmo http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj105/callatov/Divided_by_zero.jpg
17:06 Seroster Or have divide by zero return kick
17:06 Seroster =)
17:06 Monkeh Seroster: No, dividing by zero should issue a chanserv clear. :P
17:08 egrsteve no it should kick ban all chat participants, it will be the web chat incident all over again
17:10 egrsteve I think we killed chat
17:10 Cheezmo REDRUM
17:10 Monkeh egrsteve: I think Av_Nekoroms still hasn't figured out he's trying to install a 64-bit OS on a P3.
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17:11 egrsteve it happens
17:11 egrsteve it's MoM
17:12 egrsteve won't run, but he can try
17:13 Cheezmo k'pew
17:14 Cheezmo gotta fashion a heatsink out of porcelain, just as effective :3
17:15 egrsteve porcelain?
17:15 Cheezmo yes porcelain
17:15 egrsteve why porclain, do you want a pretty glazed heat sink
17:15 Cheezmo don't need to glaze it :P
17:16 egrsteve i know, but you could
17:16 Cheezmo the point is that smoke would come billowing out from under it P:
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17:17 egrsteve is the goal to kill a cpu or cool it?
17:17 Cheezmo well, it's to complement the effectiveness of a 64-bit OS on a P3
17:17 Cheezmo lol
17:17 egrsteve ah ok
17:18 Cprossu what in the world =/ lol
17:18 egrsteve although some ceramics may make a decent heatsink
17:18 Cprossu technically you can buy a Pentum M with 64bit extensions and it's closer to a P3 than you might think!
17:18 Cheezmo I actually have a few TO-220 ceramic insulators I'm sending along to TGG with 250 diods
17:19 Cheezmo when I can afford to :V
17:19 SparkyProjects Stream is offline :/
17:19 egrsteve can you check that cpossu ^
17:20 egrsteve *cprossu^ ^^
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17:24 egrsteve hi jeff
17:24 ajprog_laptop hi egrsteve
17:24 egrsteve hi jeff
17:25 SparkyProjects ^ is there an echo in this room ?
17:26 egrsteve NO               No                    no
17:26 egrsteve Quack!
17:26 egrsteve see, no echo
17:26 SparkyProjects Duck quacks echo, Mythbusters proved it :P
17:26 egrsteve I know
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17:27 SuperPhosphate I saw that one too
17:27 egrsteve but I can still make jokes about it, even if they are not factually based
17:28 SuperPhosphate quack
17:28 SparkyProjects Like lead balloons :P
17:29 egrsteve lead balloons are cool
17:29 tonsofpcs yay!
17:29 egrsteve yay?
17:30 tonsofpcs new christie + Yamaha SPX2000 = synchronized audio and video :)
17:30 egrsteve nice
17:30 tonsofpcs (well, it will be once I find a baseline for sync)
17:30 egrsteve which one was lagging, I assume video
17:30 tonsofpcs http://www.christiedigital.com/en-us/business/products/projectors/lcd-display/pages/christie-lwu420.aspx
17:30 BotSteve Title: Christie LWU420 3-LCD WUXGA Projector | Christie Visual Solutions
17:31 tonsofpcs in initial testing, audio lagged video, but I think that was bad source.  All further testing has shown video lagging audio (I hope, since delaying video is a bit harder)
17:31 egrsteve agreed
17:31 tonsofpcs (although I suppose I can delay video a few seconds and delay audio a few seconds + some)
17:31 tonsofpcs (I have video servers, delaying isn't really so much an issue as delaying a specific amount of time
17:32 egrsteve delaying is easy, longer cable
17:32 tonsofpcs not with SDI or HDSDI
17:32 egrsteve how many micro seconds do you need
17:32 tonsofpcs I'm already very near jitter length.
17:32 egrsteve ah
17:32 tonsofpcs micro? audio/video delay noticability is beyond 20 milli
17:33 egrsteve i know, but colors roll in the microsecond range
17:33 egrsteve so you can see that when switching
17:33 tonsofpcs that's a phasing issue
17:34 egrsteve I know, but phasing is solved with delay
17:34 * tonsofpcs hands egrsteve some allen avionics delay lines
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17:35 * egrsteve pulles out blue box, creates route around the world, calls it a delay line
17:35 tonsofpcs heh
17:35 tonsofpcs you can store data in the telephone network btw ;)
17:35 tonsofpcs and since it's tarrifed, the uptime is roughly equivilant to that of a hdd
17:35 * egrsteve starts staking trucks, now you have acorus
17:35 egrsteve * a chorus
17:36 sndwrx blurgh @ ubuntu
17:37 tonsofpcs http://www.allenavionics.com/GPDL/V127.htm
17:37 BotSteve Title: Switch Variable Delay Line
17:38 tonsofpcs http://www.salesbaron.net/f/ABM448.jpg
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17:40 tonsofpcs I don't think I've ever been in a professional facility without at least one of those.
17:41 egrsteve LUNCHTIME
17:41 tonsofpcs mmm
17:44 sndwrx Lunchtime here, too.
17:44 sndwrx I just had a McRib sandwich and fries brought to me.
17:44 killaway livestream down?
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17:47 mashpriborintorg hi all
17:47 * mashpriborintorg got a cold and is damn sick
17:56 sndwrx mmmmm.
17:56 sndwrx Milk chocolate peanut butter bar.
17:59 yNos back!
17:59 angy yNos! Hello!
17:59 sndwrx wb yNos.
18:00 yNos Angy!
18:00 yNos Sndwrx!
18:00 sndwrx How's it goin'?
18:01 yNos other than wanting to facepunch/ballkick a few SAS "Admins" who dont want to troubleshoot....
18:01 sndwrx ha.
18:02 yNos "Just make it work" has been uttered a few times.
18:05 sndwrx Sounds familiar.
18:08 yNos but it is their gd app!
18:09 yNos there are a dozen other apps running on this machine, they are the only ones having problems.
18:09 yNos the server has not been changed in months.
18:10 Seroster Putting tools on a wall
18:10 Seroster YAY
18:11 angy you hanged your balls?
18:11 angy billiard balls that is
18:11 yNos well, i washed them..
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18:13 Seroster Hello there lil dutchlady
18:13 Cprossu I am checking now
18:14 Cprossu sorry had breakfast to attend to egrsteve
18:14 tonsofpcs all this talk about food is making me hungry
18:14 Cprossu jupiter is down, so is stream pc egrsteve
18:14 tonsofpcs blew the circuit?
18:14 Cprossu or the internet could be out
18:15 Cprossu yNos can you get to the firewall?
18:15 tonsofpcs tgg|yNos is still here.
18:15 yNos can i?
18:15 yNos yes :D
18:15 yNos $ uptime 1:15PM  up 11 days,  1:05, 5 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.13, 0.14
18:16 yNos $
18:16 yNos what address did it have?
18:16 Cprossu hrmmmm
18:16 yNos maybe i can ping it?
18:16 Cprossu I had it in a pm, let me check my logs
18:16 tonsofpcs Server:192.168.1.1
18:16 tonsofpcs Address:192.168.1.1#53
18:16 tonsofpcs Non-authoritative answer:
18:16 tonsofpcs Name:173-13-12-252-michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net
18:16 tonsofpcs Address: 173.13.12.252
18:16 yNos or if you have the mac...
18:16 Cprossu yeah I do actually!
18:17 yNos tonsofpcs: I HAVE YER IP!?!?! 192.168.1.1
18:17 Cprossu or did lol
18:17 yNos I IZ GUNNA HAXORZ YOO!!
18:17 tonsofpcs yNos: no, that's my DNS server's IP
18:17 yNos oh..
18:17 tonsofpcs you can do weird dns spoofy things to it
18:17 yNos gess i'z not a l337 haxor
18:18 Isopropyl|Media 7331 roxah
18:18 tonsofpcs this is not the netblock you're looking for.
18:18 yNos we are doing spoofy things at tgg ;)
18:18 yNos need to find out the names of the server's Cory's games connect to...
18:18 Cprossu 100.50.20 @ yNos
18:18 yNos so we can spoof them
18:18 tonsofpcs yNos: port filtered logging
18:19 tonsofpcs also, run your own dedicated servers with the same visual names and no one in them just so he goes in and goes wtf :-p
18:20 yNos bah, dont want to waste the time or computer
18:20 tonsofpcs c'mon, there's stacks in the basement
18:20 Cprossu yNos did you try and ping?
18:20 tonsofpcs it doesn't have to be any decent speed
18:20 yNos Cprossu, it is not in my arp tables and does not respond to ping
18:20 tonsofpcs power fail
18:20 tonsofpcs are the NLEs up?
18:21 yNos there are other devices i can ping up there
18:22 Cprossu firewall isnt on a functional UPS is it?
18:22 tonsofpcs ok, I need lunch.
18:22 Cprossu (yet anyway)
18:22 tonsofpcs Cprossu: there's two circuits in MC....
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18:22 Cprossu yeah I am aware of that
18:22 Cprossu I think I may have even told you that
18:22 tonsofpcs you did :-p
18:22 tonsofpcs I'm just reminding you of the occam's razor of failure modes
18:22 Electricguy howdy :)
18:23 Cprossu yeah and I was trying to think if there was a building wide power outage or a blown MC breaker
18:23 tonsofpcs Electricguy: fix the lamp in my bedroom please?
18:23 Cprossu or potentially a borked switch
18:23 tonsofpcs Cprossu: right, poking at the switch the NLEs are on should solve that, no?
18:23 Cprossu OOOH
18:23 Cprossu we can place the time
18:23 Electricguy naah, do it yourself you lazy old fart ;)
18:23 Cprossu tggmc1 went down at the same time
18:23 Cprossu .log
18:23 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
18:23 tonsofpcs but you're electric, I'm human
18:24 tonsofpcs 08:05:14 -!- tggmc1 [~tggmc@173-13-12-252-Michigan.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
18:24 tonsofpcs <3 /lastlog
18:24 yNos yay
18:24 tonsofpcs UTC-0500
18:24 yNos partial power outage :(
18:24 Cprossu that GMT or EST?
18:24 yNos how long ago compared to the latest message?
18:24 Cprossu kk cool.
18:24 Ponko how can i clean my laptop keyboard without messing it up???
18:25 tonsofpcs buy a new one for $10 and replace it
18:25 tonsofpcs yNos: latest message?
18:25 Ponko what an in built one?
18:25 yNos I hear expando foam works pretty good for taking care of dirty keyboards.. it gets under the keys pretty well from what i hear.
18:25 tonsofpcs Ponko: yes, they generally sell the keyboard.
18:25 Ponko hmmm never knew that
18:26 Cprossu it's 13:25 UTC -5 right now, so the difference is 5 hours 20 minutes
18:26 tonsofpcs Mon Nov 21 13:26:26 EST 2011
18:26 Cprossu your off a little bit tonsofpcs I think
18:26 tonsofpcs probably
18:26 tonsofpcs but that time is from the same system that the timestamp is.
18:26 yNos tonsofpcs: latest message being the last message in the chatlog
18:26 Cprossu +-20 seconds
18:27 Cprossu so anyway we got that now
18:27 yNos yarp
18:27 yNos isnt there a ups?
18:27 Cprossu only on the stream pc
18:27 tonsofpcs 21 Nov 13:27:39 ntpdate[11398]: step time server 129.6.15.29 offset -12.687945 sec
18:27 yNos oh
18:28 Ponko ups the courier service o_O
18:28 * tonsofpcs has a nice 30A UPS here :D
18:28 tonsofpcs ok, going for subway, i think
18:28 tonsofpcs cya
18:28 Cprossu 5 hours, 20 mins ago roughly + the ping timeout (~4 minutes)
18:28 yNos that is def within the +/-20 sec cprossu talked about
18:28 Ponko tonsofpcs UPS? fill me in lol
18:29 tonsofpcs uninterruptable power supply
18:29 Ponko ah right thanks :)
18:29 tonsofpcs mind you, I also have a 60kVA UPS down the hall
18:29 Ponko so it's a generator of sorts
18:29 tonsofpcs and a 180kVA KOHLER that was just commissioned
18:29 tonsofpcs no, the kohler is a generator, the UPS is just a UPS
18:29 Cprossu yNos do we have a functional ups on the firewall is what I meant-
18:30 Ponko fair enough lol
18:30 Cprossu if we don't it's a moot point and we had a breaker trip
18:30 yNos we do not..
18:30 yNos yet
18:31 Cprossu considering the 11 day uptime this means the building didn't lose power long enough for the caps in the power supply to give out
18:31 Cprossu so anyway egrsteve you going in today?
18:31 Cprossu seems as you have a tiny mess to clean up.
18:31 yNos i will stop in there tonight for a spot..
18:31 yNos swing those UPSs in..
18:32 killakee stream down?
18:32 Cprossu yep. stream is out of powah.
18:32 Cprossu orrrrrrr
18:32 Cprossu the network switch asploded
18:32 Cprossu pick your poison
18:32 killakee aha.. :O
18:32 killakee omg xploded?
18:33 Seroster I like making holes in stuff.
18:34 yNos i can ping the switch ;)
18:34 yNos and see other devices on that vlan
18:35 Cprossu not that switch yNos
18:35 Cprossu the 3com one that's inside of master control
18:35 yNos ahh
18:36 yNos it went to lunch.
18:36 yNos it will be back in a while
18:36 yNos maybe
18:36 Cprossu it doesn't have an IP lol
18:36 Cprossu it's a dumb switch xD
18:36 yNos so it may have went to lunch
18:36 yNos it was hingry
18:36 Cprossu yeah.
18:36 Cprossu and abused.
18:36 yNos yup
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18:37 Cprossu hrmmmmm
18:38 Cprossu can't ping weathercampc to see if it's on another circuit since it's been offline since we've been having power balancing issues
18:38 Cprossu can you still ping cory's imac yNos?
18:40 yNos dont know it's mac offhand..
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18:42 ajprog_laptop yNos: you in the lab today?
18:43 yNos nope
18:43 yNos you?
18:43 ajprog_laptop NYC
18:43 yNos :P
18:43 ajprog_laptop what is that for?
18:43 yNos i figured.. you wouldnt ask me if i were there if you were there ;)
18:44 yNos we are trying to figure out where the problem is..
18:44 ajprog_laptop exactly
18:44 yNos some stuff is offline in nls
18:44 yNos nle
18:44 Cprossu yep.
18:44 ajprog_laptop ouch
18:44 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL0I8YasI-U anyone know the song Knoxville girl?
18:44 BotSteve Title: knoxville girl - YouTube
18:44 Cprossu and our remotely controled fixer robots aren't built yet.
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18:47 killakee my poor internet :D
18:48 tonsofpcs ajprog_laptop: how long are you in NYC for?
18:49 ajprog_laptop I fly out tomorrow evening
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19:23 yNos SparkyProjects: I am not sure, but i doubt they allow homemade devices in a breaker box.
19:24 yNos i think we will be stuck with re-routing wire to a box on the side and having the cores pass through there.
19:24 yNos p i t a
19:24 SparkyProjects Yep, that's what i was thinking
19:25 yNos i was throwing this out there to see if anyone had any other ideas.
19:25 yNos i really dont want to have  to re-wire a box..
19:25 yNos but i guess we will if we need to.
19:27 SparkyProjects As i said in the thread, an energy meter might be best, then you can go to what you want.
19:27 SparkyProjects The meter would gibe the insulation value.
19:27 SparkyProjects Though as long as the CT's were rated properly, and you had a properly installed outlet for the voltage, that should be ok.
19:27 SparkyProjects Get the sparky to bring the CT's into an external box.
19:28 SparkyProjects *give
19:37 yNos that would be cool, if only we didnt have 6 panels with a minimum of 16 breakers per..
19:37 SparkyProjects yNos, might be an idea to talk to the electrician, he would know what is code, you mau be able to have wires into an external box with connectors and fuses, and protection resistors aross the CT's in case someone disconnects whle power is being drawn.
19:37 yNos and they werent ~$800 per
19:38 SparkyProjects Isn't there just the one intake for the building ?
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19:40 yNos yup, but they want to see how much power the individual circuits are using.
19:40 SparkyProjects ah, i see
19:42 SparkyProjects So, how many circuits are we looking at ?
19:42 SparkyProjects ball park figure
19:43 yNos at least 6*16..
19:43 yNos all in different parts of the building.
19:43 SparkyProjects Rather than CT's, what about hall effect devices.
19:44 Seroster Bwarrrgh
19:44 yNos 3 panels in the boiler room, one off mdh, one in chemlab, upper mech, front office
19:44 Seroster My compressor is angry at me, too humid in here.
19:45 Seroster SparkyProjects, Can I put a cup of light oil in my compressor tank without risk of it combusting (making a pipe bomb)
19:45 yNos not sure, i havent done a whole lot in the DAQ world.. so i am not sure how to measure current with a cotroller...
19:45 SparkyProjects As before, ask the sparky, if the HED's are insulated too and strapped to the cables away from danger, he may say it's ok.
19:45 SparkyProjects Then you need a 16 way circuit, plus say 3 circuits to detect voltage as a reference.
19:46 SparkyProjects Seroster, that's not normal practice, but you do get some oil from the pump going in, shouldn't be a problem.
19:48 SparkyProjects With CT's it's basically a voltage, so depending on range, 1 mv might = 1 amp
19:48 SparkyProjects HED's should be similar.
19:49 SparkyProjects CT's always need a load on them (normally the meter), or they could overvolt when a lot of current is drawn
19:54 yNos hrm..
19:56 Seroster SparkyProjects, I just want some extra rust proofing in the tank
19:59 tonsofpcs egrsteve: around?
20:00 SparkyProjects I would say ok, though i would suggest putting some oil in (if it's a small tank fill it up), the idea is to coat the surface of the tank, then let it drain out.
20:00 SparkyProjects The oil will soak in and shouldn't be a problem.
20:00 SparkyProjects Remember you need a lot of pressure to get oil hot enough to ignite
20:01 SparkyProjects yNos http://scienceshareware.com/how-to-measure-AC-DC-current-with-a-hall-effect-clamp-.htm
20:01 SparkyProjects That page is more about HED's are used for current sensing, but i wouldn't use his set up
20:01 BotSteve Title: How to measure current and power -  using a hall effect transducer - clamp
20:03 * yNos goes in the corner and rasterbates...
20:03 yNos http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator
20:03 BotSteve Title: The Sect of Homokaasu - The Rasterbator
20:03 Seroster SparkyProjects, So it isnt the pressure that makes it ignite, but the heat caused by rapid increase of pressure?
20:03 yNos just did a pic of Tesla.
20:03 yNos methinks it will be badass.
20:11 SparkyProjects Yes Seroster, oil has an ignition temperature, if it's below that temp, no boom
20:14 yNos SparkyProjects - can you toss me that link in the forum please?
20:16 SparkyProjects Posted
20:16 yNos thanks
20:17 SparkyProjects hmm, didn't seem to post :/
20:18 SparkyProjects Do you see my post there yNos ?
20:19 yNos cant really look right now
20:19 yNos am on my phone ;)
20:20 SparkyProjects I had tried to post it again but it said it was a duplicate post, so it knows i posted but is not displaying
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20:24 tonsofpcs oh, wow
20:26 tonsofpcs egrsteve: so one of the two TenX>L manuals I have (found another, both mainteance manuals, both different) is from the era when "Grass Valley Group, Inc. ...... is a wholly owned subsidiary of TEKTRONIX, INC...."
20:39 tonsofpcs damnit egrsteve, stop eating and look at the screen :-p
20:39 tonsofpcs yNos: what are you doing with a breaker box?
20:39 yNos taking an axe to it.
20:39 yNos we need to measure current.
20:40 tonsofpcs where?
20:40 tonsofpcs and for how long?
20:41 yNos all over the building. for the life of us owning the building..
20:41 yNos we want to put power monitoring in place.
20:41 Cprossu lol tonsofpcs I didn't know about that phase of gvg
20:41 Cprossu funny as hell.
20:42 tonsofpcs yNos: let me go read off the model of the things we have downstairs
20:42 tonsofpcs brb
20:43 tonsofpcs Hawkeye 8100
20:44 tonsofpcs they talk bacnet iirc (I don't handle them)
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20:46 tonsofpcs from what I understand, they themselves do not log but they cna be tied to a system that logs.
20:46 tonsofpcs 3ph, voltage, amperage, totals, splits, etc.
20:46 tonsofpcs built-in screen rotates between readings
20:47 yNos they want to watch each breaker circuit.. not just the 3 phases coming in.
20:47 yNos sso we can monitor the groups of rooms/walls.
20:47 tonsofpcs we have ... 4 of these?
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20:47 yNos we have 6 panels with at least 16 breakers on each panel
20:47 tonsofpcs one at the mains, one on each of two busducts, one on the HVAC load iirc.
20:47 tonsofpcs per-breaker metering might be hard...
20:48 tonsofpcs you run out of panel space unless you have an oversized panel
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20:48 yNos the new panels are nice sized.. the old ones are over-stuffed.
20:49 tonsofpcs you're also looking at putting CTs on like 14 AWG instead of 4 AWG...
20:50 SparkyProjects yNos is talking of 96 circuits
20:50 SparkyProjects As i suggested, hall effect devices may be smaller, and run the sensor cables to a separate box (if code allows)
20:50 tonsofpcs will a hall-effect ammeter work in such a cramped environment?
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20:51 tonsofpcs oo, found a good one for you
20:51 SparkyProjects As long as they aren't bunched together, i don't see why not, no coils involved
20:52 tonsofpcs Siemens makes distribution panels with per-breaker metering built-in.
20:52 angy hello injektion =)
20:52 tonsofpcs they also make it as a panel that you just slide each service through
20:52 injektion Hey :)
20:53 tonsofpcs MP636-INC
20:54 injektion That seems like a model for a fax machine
20:54 tonsofpcs apparently made by "intellimeter"
20:55 tonsofpcs I don't know why you would want to meter every circuit though...
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20:56 tonsofpcs you're not running a data center for lease, are you?
20:56 thegamer579 hi
20:56 Monkeh Can you not just get things like this over there? http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/459742580/din_rail_meter.jpg
20:58 tonsofpcs Monkeh: din rails aren't common here, but I'd expect those to be available.  They might not meet code for certain environments though.  (that looks like it is in-line, not CT, no?)
20:58 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I don't know how it's wired inside.
20:59 tonsofpcs Monkeh: right, but you're connecting wires to it, you're not just slipping it over the top.
20:59 Monkeh tonsofpcs: That's just an example, surely you have your own standards for generic equipment.
20:59 tonsofpcs the issue seems to be one of density, not one of getting something that can do the job.
20:59 tonsofpcs (also, cost density, I guess)
21:00 Monkeh How many circuits?
21:01 tonsofpcs I mean, these are generally made for metering tenants who would each have multiple circuits; yNos wants to meter _every_ circuit.
21:01 yNos around 100
21:01 yNos on 6 different panels
21:02 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Single-module DIN mounts are not used for metering tenants.
21:02 egrsteve THe best btio would be CTs on each circuit a multiplexer to a buffer to a microcontroller
21:02 tonsofpcs steve! see pm
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21:03 tonsofpcs yNos: I'd call siemens, GE, et al.  and ask the reps what they have available to sell you.
21:03 yNos i wonder if there are "smart breakers"
21:03 egrsteve tonsofpcs just looked
21:04 Monkeh yNos: 'smart breakers'?
21:04 tonsofpcs Monkeh: breakers that can report, i guess
21:04 yNos a breaker with something like rs485 and a controller built in for monitoring..
21:05 Monkeh yNos: There isn't space.
21:05 tonsofpcs Monkeh: there isn't space where?
21:05 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Inside a breaker.
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21:05 tonsofpcs Monkeh: that depends highly on the panel and/or breaker design
21:06 egrsteve most of ours are squareD
21:06 Cprossu old square D too
21:06 Cprossu (some good qual I may add)
21:06 tonsofpcs I know that I have some 20A breakers on the MDP downstairs that are easily 20x the volume of a 20A breaker in the panel about 40 ft from me.
21:06 yNos some is old, some is new
21:06 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I think you'll find they all try and be as compact as possible to enable high density.
21:06 Cprossu some very janky installing on the 70's-85's era
21:06 Monkeh tonsofpcs: There is no space in this, and this is what every MCB in Europe looks like: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Circuitbreaker.jpg
21:07 Monkeh Cprossu: Everything made in the 70s and 80s is pretty iffy in my experience.
21:08 Cprossu Monkeh: nah it's the install that's the worst part
21:08 tonsofpcs that's very similar to a residential circuit breaker here too, but we're not talking residential.  When your panel is rated to have 400A breakers and in the same slot you put a 20A breaker, there's plenty of space.
21:08 yNos even a breaker with a built in shunt.. or a built in hall sensor, or a built in CT
21:08 yNos then have another unit to take them all in..
21:08 Monkeh tonsofpcs: See, we don't do that.
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21:09 tonsofpcs Monkeh: again, in residential we don't do that here either, but we're not talking residential.
21:09 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Again, we don't do that. Not in industrial either.
21:09 Monkeh tonsofpcs: You want big stuff? It's seperate.
21:09 SparkyProjects I think what is needed is for someone to make acircuit board with 8 ct's of hall effect devices, and a set of wires coming out, then to pot the lot just leaving holes for the circuit wires.
21:09 SparkyProjects This would go inside the panel, and go to circuitry in an external box.
21:09 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: that's what I found
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21:10 Seroster Mlef.
21:10 tonsofpcs MP636-INC
21:10 Seroster Anyhow, I got almost all my tools on my new storage drawers
21:10 Seroster And almost all drawers are full to the brim
21:10 tonsofpcs they also make it with an external - http://www.intellimeter.on.ca/mp-636-extc.php
21:11 BotSteve Title: Intellimeter - sub-metering,utilities,energy management,smart meters,metering,electricity,gas,water
21:11 Monkeh tonsofpcs: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/Products/size_3/HGJK106BG.JPG
21:11 tonsofpcs Monkeh: right, I have a 2500 Amp load center downstairs.
21:11 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Normally we stop at 250A for a board, 63A per-phase.
21:11 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Anything bigger is jointed in busbar chaambers.
21:11 Monkeh (63A for breakers that is)
21:12 egrsteve http://products.schneider-electric.us/products-services/products/power-energy-monitoring-system/metering/energy-meters/bcm/
21:12 BotSteve Title: BCM (Branch Circuit Monitor - Schneider Electric Schneider Electric
21:12 egrsteve that is what we need
21:12 tonsofpcs if you want to put a 20A breaker on there, they make them inside a case the right size to fill a cutout on the board, but the breaker is still the right sizes for 20A
21:13 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I suppose it helps that we don't need silly amps.
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21:13 egrsteve or read it under the breaker
21:13 egrsteve as square D builds them
21:14 egrsteve 42 circuits RS 485 what more do you want
21:14 yNos steve, can you please toss that link into the forum thread
21:15 egrsteve Ynos that is just too cool isn't it
21:15 egrsteve ok
21:15 SparkyProjects That's if you can get posting to work in the forum :P
21:16 yNos i am still i na meeting on my phone.. but if it gets you excited, it may just work ;P
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21:16 egrsteve posted
21:16 yNos thanks
21:17 yNos posting also helps give credit where credit is due ;)
21:17 egrsteve ah ok
21:18 egrsteve I went to schnider because they own square D and make everything else
21:18 Cprossu so egrsteve stopping in the lab today?
21:18 egrsteve I might after 6
21:18 Cprossu so did we all decide what blew up?
21:19 egrsteve what blew up?
21:19 Cprossu general term
21:19 egrsteve ah ok
21:20 egrsteve the stream being offline
21:20 yNos ok, time to gtfo
21:20 egrsteve can you access the computer
21:20 yNos i will roll by there on my way home.
21:20 Cprossu I'll check again
21:20 Cprossu nope. everything's dead
21:21 yNos later all
21:21 egrsteve maybe we lost a breaker up there
21:21 Cprossu lates yNos
21:21 Cprossu or down there
21:21 Cprossu lol
21:21 tonsofpcs egrsteve: those seem to snap on the same way as the ones I linked
21:21 Cprossu (silly electrical)
21:22 egrsteve more or less a potted wire CT in the panel
21:22 egrsteve to a data collection board
21:22 egrsteve it's an existing dolution to look at
21:24 egrsteve *solution
21:24 SparkyProjects egrsteve, i tried to post a link for yNos earlier, it didn't seem to work, can you post that too ?
21:25 SparkyProjects http://scienceshareware.com/how-to-measure-AC-DC-current-with-a-hall-effect-clamp-.htm
21:25 BotSteve Title: How to measure current and power -  using a hall effect transducer - clamp
21:26 Cprossu BotSteve: tell yNos SparkyProjects left link for you http://scienceshareware.com/how-to-measure-AC-DC-current-with-a-hall-effect-clamp-.htm
21:26 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
21:26 BotSteve Title: How to measure current and power -  using a hall effect transducer - clamp
21:26 Cprossu SparkyProjects done.
21:26 dbshortwave_ ehhhhh
21:26 SparkyProjects yNos wanted it in the forum along with the discussion :P
21:26 dbshortwave lol
21:26 Cprossu ahhhhh
21:26 Cprossu oops =P
21:27 SparkyProjects :D
21:27 dbshortwave found the problem with my car
21:27 Cprossu what did it end up being/didn't know you had a prob?
21:27 dbshortwave yeah it was acting odd so to speak
21:27 SparkyProjects Seems my post is in limbo, i tried to post it again earlier but it said it was a duplicate :P
21:27 dbshortwave i can get it to start after about 20 attempts at cranking it
21:28 dbshortwave i could hear the pump
21:28 dbshortwave it would build psi
21:28 dbshortwave but not enough volume
21:28 dbshortwave so
21:28 Cprossu leak in the hose inside the tank?
21:28 dbshortwave no just a bad pump
21:28 Cprossu cool
21:29 dbshortwave i sat under it with the pump just running
21:29 Cprossu had to drop the tank or was there a porthole for it?
21:29 dbshortwave it was loud as shit then it went quiet
21:29 dbshortwave yeah have to drop the tank
21:29 Cprossu boo
21:29 dbshortwave when i do im going to paint the top of the tnak
21:30 Cprossu what car?
21:30 dbshortwave its a 97 blazer
21:30 Cprossu just curious
21:30 Cprossu damn.
21:30 Cprossu yeah I don't think there's a hole on those!
21:30 dbshortwave out side of that the car runs like a dream
21:30 dbshortwave nope
21:30 Cprossu 4.3 or 5.7?
21:30 dbshortwave i looked up from under it
21:30 dbshortwave 4.3
21:30 dbshortwave its the S10
21:30 Cprossu some people mod em
21:31 Cprossu OH. beware of your intake manifold.
21:31 dbshortwave lol
21:31 dbshortwave yeah ive been under it
21:31 dbshortwave i replaced the spider
21:31 dbshortwave fuel regulator
21:31 Cprossu the lower manifold gasket will leak at some point
21:31 Cprossu coolant.
21:31 dbshortwave this one has been done
21:31 Cprossu cool!
21:32 Cprossu that's an annoying habbit of those motors
21:32 dbshortwave tough engine
21:32 dbshortwave but full of bugs lol
21:32 egrsteve http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=4400079#tab=Specs
21:32 BotSteve Title: Amveco - AC-1030 - Transformers - Power Products - Allied Electronics
21:32 Cprossu well what do you expect from a 350 with 2 cylinders whapped off
21:32 Cprossu xD
21:32 dbshortwave haha
21:32 dbshortwave wait
21:33 Cprossu (I wasn't kidding)
21:33 dbshortwave no 350 is the 5.7
21:33 Cprossu yep
21:33 dbshortwave 4.4
21:33 dbshortwave 262
21:33 Cprossu the 4.3 is a 5.7 with 2 cylinders whapped off
21:33 dbshortwave or
21:33 dbshortwave 268
21:33 dbshortwave this is true
21:33 egrsteve at $7 these can have leads soldered sealed and heat shrinked
21:33 egrsteve should be safe in a distribution panel
21:34 dbshortwave reven tho now my hands smell like gas
21:34 Cprossu this may scare you but it used to be odd fire o_o
21:35 dbshortwave the cyl pattern?
21:35 dbshortwave i wouldnt doubt it
21:35 tonsofpcs egrsteve: do you need these scanned or is that text enough to work from?
21:36 Cprossu dbshortwave: #1 fires - 150 deg later - #6 fires - 90 deg later - #5 fires - 150 deg later - #4 fires...   and so on, 150deg and 90 deg alternating
21:36 Cprossu hence odd fire.
21:36 dbshortwave thats really odd
21:36 Cprossu yours doesn't though
21:36 Cprossu iirc
21:36 dbshortwave the older ones did
21:37 dbshortwave its crank sencer is in the distributar
21:37 Cprossu it was a case of using the old crankshaft I think
21:38 dbshortwave this thing is a fun little toy if you think about it
21:39 Cprossu yeah heh
21:39 Cprossu you know what's more funny though?
21:39 dbshortwave whats that?
21:39 Cprossu I made a 1994 S10 2.2L computer drive a 2003 S10 2.2L
21:40 Cprossu engine
21:41 Cprossu those engines were hillarious
21:41 Cprossu and the story and tech manuals had incorrect stuff in it
21:42 dbshortwave oh good lord
21:42 Cprossu Started out life as a 1.8L pushrod engine based on a opel engine
21:42 dbshortwave i can see that happening tho
21:43 Cprossu distributer based ignition
21:43 dbshortwave yep
21:43 Cprossu didn't make enough power in the cavalier
21:43 Cprossu and really sucked ass
21:43 Cprossu bored and stroked to 2.0L
21:43 Cprossu last year of the distributor was 1987
21:44 Cprossu they added DIS to the engine and changed the intake manifold
21:44 Cprossu so pop quiz time dbshortwave
21:44 Cprossu how did they put DIS in and still drive the oil pump?
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21:45 thegamer579 is nothing interesting happening in the lab?
21:45 Cprossu (dis = coilpacks)
21:45 Cprossu thegamer579 we had a potential localized power failure in master control so stream is down
21:46 dbshortwave there is a pin and bearing in a cap that covers the distributer hole that pin is basically a cut off section of the distributer and gear
21:46 Cprossu yep. half shaft
21:46 Cprossu and a crank position sensor was also added
21:46 Cprossu along with a toothed casting in the crank
21:46 dbshortwave some had been mounted to the side of the block
21:47 Cprossu (more or less in the middle of it oddly enough)
21:47 dbshortwave under the damn coil pack computer
21:47 dbshortwave under the intake
21:47 Cprossu so they added the ICM (ignition control module) to it
21:47 dbshortwave have fun changing them lol
21:47 Cprossu and it was part number Delco ..something or other 1985
21:47 * dbshortwave nods
21:48 Cprossu well they changed it in 1990 to another module
21:48 dbshortwave i had a 94 caviler
21:48 dbshortwave lol
21:48 Cprossu and here's where it gets weird
21:48 Cprossu welll... what if I told you that a 94-95 S10 uses a 1991-1993 Cavalier ICM?
21:49 dbshortwave i also had a 89 ponitac grandam with the 2.0 (singer sewing machine) engine
21:49 dbshortwave i wouldnt doubt it
21:49 Cprossu because the 94-95 cavaliers used a different icm that was picked up in the 1996 model
21:49 Cprossu anyway
21:49 Cprossu ICM's for the old cavaliers and 94-95 models of S10
21:49 Cprossu had base timing
21:49 Cprossu built in
21:50 Cprossu later modules depended entirely on the ECM for ignition timing
21:50 Cprossu thus I need a picture
21:50 Cprossu (where did I put that wiring diagram)
21:50 * egrsteve may get out of class early if I don't want to listen to the prof review a test we had
21:51 egrsteve I suppose it depends on how I did on it
21:51 egrsteve also I made more post in power monitering on the forum
21:52 dbshortwave brb i need to dawn dishsoap my hands
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21:54 Cprossu shit I can't find it haha
21:54 tgg|yNos looks like the little switch went out to lunch.
21:54 egrsteve ah network outage in MC
21:55 tgg|yNos jup
21:55 egrsteve can you get another switch there
21:55 tgg|yNos looking around
21:55 egrsteve or is this the thinnet one
21:55 tgg|yNos dont want to waste a poe switch..
21:56 tgg|yNos MC should be on it's own vlan...
21:56 tgg|yNos seeing what we can do
21:56 Cprossu dbshortwave
21:56 Cprossu http://oi56.tinypic.com/25qaa7b.jpg
21:56 Cprossu ^ heh heh
21:56 Cprossu didn't come out too bad.
21:56 tgg|yNos am on the firewall console
21:56 tgg|yNos no gui :P
21:57 egrsteve fun
21:57 tgg|yNos pm me and i will take a look
21:57 Cprossu tgg|yNos pity.
21:57 Cprossu so the 3com ate it did it?
21:57 tgg|yNos am eyeballing a little cat2950
21:58 tgg|yNos and cascading off (i hate doing that) the NLE switch.
21:58 tgg|yNos more isolation.
22:02 tgg|yNos maybe..
22:02 tgg|yNos dell switch?
22:02 tgg|yNos 48 ports of doom
22:02 Cprossu hahaha
22:03 egrsteve DOOM
22:03 Cprossu hey I do have a suggestion tgg|yNos
22:03 Cprossu and it's an EVIL horrible suggestion
22:03 Cprossu remember that little GB netgear?
22:03 * egrsteve preps diaboligal voice
22:03 Cprossu I know it's consumer-ish grade but it's GB!
22:03 tonsofpcs diabolical.
22:04 egrsteve thanks
22:05 Cprossu tgg|yNos: ?
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22:07 killaway^zzZZ good night everyone
22:07 Bat-Mobile goodnight killaway^zzZZ
22:07 angy howdy Batty
22:08 Bat-Mobile hey angy!
22:08 dbshortwave oh awesome
22:08 dbshortwave OBD I to OBD II
22:08 dbshortwave heh
22:08 angy how's your part of the world batty?
22:09 Cprossu yep dbshortwave hehehe
22:09 Cprossu did you get a laugh out of that though??
22:09 Bat-Mobile Pretty good!  There's one more pilot out there now because of me
22:09 Cprossu you want to know why we had to do that though dbshortwave?
22:09 Bat-Mobile Which is always a good thing
22:10 Cprossu good job tgg|yNos we're back up
22:10 dbshortwave being that i have my 79 i was thinking of outfitting that with a 95 OBD I ffrom a van
22:10 dbshortwave or 94
22:10 dbshortwave 95 was transision from I to II
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22:11 tggmc shitty switch replaced with shitty switch.
22:11 Cprossu good job tggmc
22:11 dbshortwave whys that cprossu?
22:11 Cprossu we running the netgear now?
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22:11 Cprossu we had to do that dbshortwave because we were doing an engine rebuild course with 2003 2.2L's
22:11 Cprossu and the ecu's for 1996+ are holy shit complicated with security
22:12 dbshortwave yeah
22:12 Cprossu there are no aftermarkets that'll run a 2.2l pushrod easily
22:12 dbshortwave i figured it had to do with security
22:12 Cprossu plenty for a ecotec, nothing for a 2.2l vortec
22:12 tggmc it is a csh-2400W
22:12 tggmc http://images.priceme.co.nz/Images/ProductImages/StRetailer53/362159-1_m.jpg
22:12 Cprossu os ot a back case? (looks)
22:13 tggmc eh?
22:13 Cprossu I wonder if that's the one I fixed
22:13 tonsofpcs tggmc: switch died?
22:13 Cprossu that used to be in mc
22:13 tonsofpcs or hub died?
22:13 Cprossu indeed it did
22:13 tggmc yeah, switch died.
22:13 Cprossu switch died.
22:13 Cprossu was a crappy switch though
22:13 Cprossu MC has officially killed 2 switches, one which I revived while I was there
22:13 Seroster .bored
22:13 BotSteve Maybe you should...Find a witch
22:14 Seroster A witch! A witch!
22:14 Seroster BURN HER! Buuurn her!
22:14 Bat-Mobile Taaaaaaaank!
22:14 SparkyProjects Which witch ?
22:14 Seroster Let's get... DUCK!
22:14 Seroster Physicsduck thatis!
22:14 tggmc maybe time to switch to.... fibr
22:14 * egrsteve prepares thumper for switch death
22:15 * egrsteve means decomishoning
22:15 tggmc hmm.. ethernet enabled thumper.
22:15 dbshortwave that be fun
22:15 dbshortwave or stomper
22:15 Cprossu we could copper and gold plate a plastic ethernet jack
22:15 Cprossu dbshortwave looking for the engine stand pics now lol
22:15 egrsteve stomper is not yet ready
22:15 * SparkyProjects wonders if Stomper could shrink a switch :D
22:15 tggmc would be easier to make interlocks...
22:16 dbshortwave yeah i know that stomper isnt ready but it would be a good thing to add in while its in construction
22:16 egrsteve I say 4 lengths cat5 all wires stripped and attached to thumper plugged into the switch, ultimate ether-killer
22:16 tggmc yarp
22:16 tggmc ok
22:16 tggmc time to get back to it.
22:16 tggmc later all
22:16 egrsteve I wonder if we could decapsulate more IC
22:16 egrsteve s
22:17 tonsofpcs cya... ynos?
22:17 dbshortwave yeah blow up the shit switch
22:19 Toastdude Hi
22:19 Toastdude angy
22:19 egrsteve tggmc can you setup a system with a capture card for me?
22:20 angy toasty!
22:20 tgg|yNos what are we watching on the stream?
22:20 Cprossu probably weathercam
22:21 Cprossu what SHOULD we be watching?
22:21 tgg|yNos nop
22:21 tonsofpcs whatever whoever was up there switched it to
22:21 tgg|yNos it is mdh
22:21 egrsteve MDH
22:21 Cprossu hrmm I didn't switch it to mdh
22:21 tgg|yNos am up there now.. figured i'd fix it before i left.
22:21 egrsteve taking newton down
22:21 egrsteve liz did
22:21 tgg|yNos Dave, going up
22:21 egrsteve duck
22:21 tgg|yNos in a hilo
22:22 egrsteve (either duck under the 8020 or look DUCK, your choice
22:22 tgg|yNos Ok
22:22 tgg|yNos time to roll
22:22 tgg|yNos later all
22:22 egrsteve ttyl ttg|ynos
22:23 * Toastdude hugsangy
22:23 * Toastdude hugs angy *
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22:24 dbshortwave wave to the camera batman
22:24 dbshortwave lol
22:29 tgg|yNos so, we are taking down the newtons's cradle
22:29 tgg|yNos and they need people here to help
22:31 Toastdude tgg|yNos: Why are you taking it down?
22:31 tgg|yNos takes up too much room in mdh
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22:31 Toastdude Okay
22:31 tgg|yNos am getting back out there.
22:31 Toastdude Lee!
22:31 lwq1996 hi
22:32 SparkyProjects tgg|yNos: Don't you have a cordless drill there with the right bits for those bolts ?
22:32 SparkyProjects And i thought they were going to hang it
22:33 Toastdude Hi Bat-Mobile
22:33 Bat-Mobile hi toast!
22:33 Toastdude :D
22:33 Toastdude How are you?
22:33 Bat-Mobile Good!
22:34 Bat-Mobile One of my students passed his checkride today
22:34 Bat-Mobile always a good day when that happens
22:34 Toastdude Yay!
22:34 Toastdude Good!
22:34 Ponko Bat-Mobi;e
22:34 Druidic_Rifleman Does that mean he can soon fly on his own?
22:34 Bat-Mobile Ponko
22:34 Bat-Mobile Nope, he can fly on his own now
22:34 Bat-Mobile as of about 3 hours ago
22:35 Druidic_Rifleman Gods help us all
22:35 Ponko how's the day looking for you Bat-Mobile
22:35 lwq1996 lol
22:35 Bat-Mobile Boring from here on out
22:35 Druidic_Rifleman I wanna learn to fly sadly i'd have to build a plane from scratch cause no one makes one that i would want
22:35 lwq1996 did he have an arabian name, or look like a terrorist
22:36 Druidic_Rifleman did he care about landing or just flying streight and level?
22:36 Bat-Mobile "Kyle Miller".  Blond, white, born in Chicago.  You tell me.
22:36 Ponko let me guess Bat-Mobile fog?
22:36 lwq1996 ok...i dont want to see another trade center or flight 93 incident
22:37 Druidic_Rifleman You know if canada never had a Female priminister http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S7hQ9ggtw4&amp;feature=feedu this muight be non restricted in canada
22:37 BotSteve Title: Rock River Arms PDS Carbine review by Nutnfancy - YouTube
22:37 lwq1996 shanks ville is near my area
22:38 Ponko so batty this guy was a Richard Head
22:38 Bat-Mobile a guy you know ponko?
22:39 Ponko no
22:39 Ponko but what's a shorter version of Richard
22:40 Bat-Mobile Well yeah
22:40 Bat-Mobile I got that
22:40 Ponko lol ;)
22:40 Ponko but what made you think i knew the guy lol
22:41 Bat-Mobile Dunno, just a thought
22:41 Ponko lol
22:43 Ponko well as a Hitchin player once said i'll use those same words and say to that guy "You F***ING D***HEAD"
22:44 Bat-Mobile You know you can curse here..it's ok
22:45 masterofmonks FUCK!
22:45 masterofmonks Just, getting that out there.
22:45 Seroster Right...
22:45 Seroster angy, can you release masterofmonks's tension this time?
22:45 Seroster My shoulder is sore
22:46 angy ope, tonight slot is already reserved
22:46 angy or give me theaxe
22:46 Ponko oh well aren't i a "fucking dickhead" Bat-Mobile
22:47 Bat-Mobile thanks monks
22:47 Bat-Mobile we needed that
22:47 Bat-Mobile (:
22:47 dbshortwave http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/114297-Scientists-Unveil-Worlds-Lightest-Material
22:47 BotSteve Title: The Escapist : News : Scientists Unveil "World's Lightest Material"
22:47 Cprossu lighter than lithium metal?
22:47 masterofmonks dbshortwave: Hydrogen?
22:47 dbshortwave lol
22:47 dbshortwave read the link
22:48 dbshortwave err artical
22:49 masterofmonks Saw it last week.
22:49 Bat-Mobile lighter than aerogel?
22:50 masterofmonks This is metallic.
22:50 Bat-Mobile ah
22:50 Bat-Mobile oops
22:50 Bat-Mobile time to go
22:50 Bat-Mobile bye all
22:50 Ponko laters batty
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22:57 Toastdude Bye angy-away
22:57 angy-away night toasty =)
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22:58 thegamer579 is the mic working in the mdh
22:59 Seroster Goodnight fellas
22:59 Ponko cya later fucker
22:59 Ponko :P
22:59 Seroster I love you angy =)
23:00 Seroster And I love you too Ponko, even thou you are brittish
23:00 Ponko :P lol
23:00 thegamer579 hi
23:01 Ponko hey thegamer579
23:01 Ponko tggmc you there?
23:03 thegamer579 hows things
23:04 Ponko very good, my cold is slowly going
23:04 thegamer579 well thats agood thing
23:06 Ponko yeah well all i have to deal with is the catarrah
23:06 Electricguy bedtime, night all
23:07 thegamer579 can someone change the audio to the MDH
23:08 Ponko WHO IS AT THE LAB RIGHT NOW?
23:09 Ponko ok i can't remember who to ping so i'll shout
23:09 Cheezmo well, yNos is at the lab
23:09 Cheezmo singe he's tgg|yNos
23:09 thegamer579 ok
23:09 Ponko -_- lol i didn't see that
23:10 Cheezmo :P
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23:58 BotSteve Ponko is credit to team!
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23:58 Toastdude Ponko!
23:58 Toastdude Sparky!
23:59 Ponko wait what happened
23:59 SparkyProjects1 For some reason my chat disconnected.

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