Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-22

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00:00 Ponko mine too
00:00 SparkyProjects1 Maybe the UK server is to blame
00:01 Ponko lol
00:18 yNos hey yo
00:18 BotSteve yNos: I have the following messages for you:
00:19 BotSteve At 21 Nov 21:26Z, Cprossu asked me to tell yNos SparkyProjects left link for you http://scienceshareware.com/how-to-measure-AC-DC-current-with-a-hall-effect-clamp-.htm
00:19 yNos Monkeh: it arrived
00:19 yNos and so did the openbsd 5.0 disks i ordered for tgg
00:20 yNos and there is interesting video that will be released soon
00:21 yNos Ponko: I leave the tgg|yNos account logged in.. it is on a machine that is racked up there..
00:21 yNos Cheezmo: ^
00:21 Cheezmo meep?
00:21 Cheezmo ah
00:22 Bat-Mobile joined #thegeekgroup
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00:22 yNos so if something needs to get done while i am there, botsteve tell me something and i will do it while i am there..
00:22 yNos otherwise i dont remember till i leave
00:24 Ponko ok yNos some bloke wanted the audio switched from MC to MDH
00:25 Cheezmo anybody here do bitcoin mining?
00:25 Bat-Mobile someone does, I forget who
00:28 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
00:28 wannabe1987 hi :)
00:28 wannabe1987 awwww no tells :(
00:28 Bat-Mobile hey kelly
00:28 wannabe1987 hi bats
00:28 wannabe1987 hi EatingToast
00:28 EatingToast Kelly! Bats!
00:29 * EatingToast can has go make pancakes
00:30 wannabe1987 no.
00:30 wannabe1987 no pancakes for you!
00:30 Ponko Bat-Mobile
00:30 wannabe1987 Ponko
00:30 Ponko wannabe1987
00:31 Bat-Mobile ponko
00:31 wannabe1987 o.O
00:31 * wannabe1987 had 13 unread emails from8p last night till now
00:31 Ponko lol
00:31 Ponko my gf had 905 after not checking it for a week
00:32 wannabe1987 my sister wants to make skittles cookies
00:32 wannabe1987 yay or nay
00:32 Ponko YAY
00:32 wannabe1987 sounds nasty to me...
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00:33 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude that last night my internet broke and i couldn't fix it at all :(
00:33 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when toastdude is around.
00:35 wannabe1987 exor674
00:36 * exor674 curls up on top of wannabe1987
00:36 wannabe1987 hi :D
00:36 wannabe1987 i was gone *all* day o.O
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00:37 yNos Cprossu: you around?
00:37 yNos if anyone has EgrSteve's cell number, please pm it to me
00:39 Monkeh yNos: Yay.
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00:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu might
00:44 tonsofpcs alternatively, boden probably does..
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00:44 dbshortwave holy crap
00:44 yNos what?
00:45 wannabe1987 i whistled and startled my brother
00:45 dbshortwave Chris Boden
00:45 dbshortwave Security cameras online and working for ONE DAY and we caught a pair of guys stealing stuff out of our transformers! ON THE FIRST DAY! :) Film at 11.
00:45 dbshortwave LOL
00:45 dbshortwave awesome!
00:45 yNos yeah
00:45 yNos you should have saw the video
00:45 yNos can clearly see their faces.
00:46 yNos egrsteve: you there?
00:46 dbshortwave frakin AWESOME!
00:46 dbshortwave cops on call ?
00:46 tonsofpcs stealing stuff out of transformers?
00:47 tggmc broad daylight
00:47 tonsofpcs WTF do you steal out of a transformer?  PCB fluid?
00:47 tggmc copper
00:47 Cprossu what's up yNos
00:48 tonsofpcs that is the transformer!
00:48 tggmc .seen cprossu
00:48 BotSteve tggmc: I last saw cprossu 0.00 hours ago at 2011-11-22 00:47:59 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:48:03 UTC
00:48 dbshortwave some arent copper i thought ,...
00:48 Cprossu I just got in here
00:48 Cprossu what's up
00:48 Cprossu tggmc
00:48 tggmc stream NOW
00:48 yNos Cprossu: can you pm me egrsteve's cell#?
00:48 tonsofpcs also, PCB filled transformers might be protection aainst thft 
00:48 tggmc |we have the meth heads on video
00:48 tonsofpcs who is at mc?
00:48 tggmc steve
00:48 yNos nice
00:48 Cprossu sweet
00:48 tggmc I need to record the stream local? VLC?
00:48 tonsofpcs yNos: you could just ask steve for steve's cell # (assuming it's the same steve)
00:49 Cprossu all we need to do is stop it and start it
00:49 tggmc I need a local copy
00:49 Cprossu will do and when
00:49 tonsofpcs Cprossu: can't flash media encoder generate a local copy as it streams to the web?
00:49 Cprossu it can
00:49 tggmc what format is the local copy?
00:49 Cprossu I don't know
00:49 tonsofpcs can != is
00:49 tonsofpcs if it is, the local copy is exactly what it streams out
00:50 Cprossu do we need it now or in a moment?
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00:50 tggmc ok, i think I will install vlc, record it now the show the stream in a few
00:50 SparkyProjects1 To save a local copy you have to first set to archive.
00:50 tggmc ideally now
00:50 tggmc in a format that isn't too big but still functional
00:51 Cprossu how much time will it be?
00:51 tonsofpcs what is the purpose?
00:51 yNos tonsofpcs: read up
00:51 Cprossu the easiest thing we can do
00:51 Cprossu yNos
00:51 Cprossu is dump it justin.tv and download it with a dumper
00:51 yNos yes?
00:52 tggmc about 10 min of video
00:52 yNos we'd need to get jtvlc,
00:52 yNos stream vlc to jtvlc
00:52 tonsofpcs ?
00:52 yNos then out to justin.tv
00:53 tonsofpcs is justin set to archvie?
00:53 yNos vlc with jtv is a hack
00:53 tonsofpcs vlc stream output is a hack.
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00:53 Cprossu SHIT
00:53 yNos what?
00:53 Cprossu I really need to disable that
00:53 Cprossu why are we doing this via stream pc tggmc?!
00:54 tggmc only capture card I have workign
00:54 Cprossu easiest thing to do is take a justin.tv flv cut
00:54 Cprossu ooooh
00:54 tonsofpcs oh, so you're going to feed the security DVR into the capture card?
00:54 Cprossu you need a local nice copy
00:54 Cprossu I see
00:54 tggmc thats high quality and I can run it through TBC and color adj it
00:54 tonsofpcs see, this is something we would use TAPE for.
00:54 Cprossu tonsofpcs captain has a morbid fear of tape
00:54 tggmc he does
00:54 Cheezmo lol
00:54 tonsofpcs I know.  It's silly.
00:55 tggmc and none of teh digital video cameras support composite in
00:55 tonsofpcs tggmc: can you use a video input on one of the production cameras and just record it that way, then transfer the file?
00:55 yNos welcome to dealing with management types :P
00:55 tonsofpcs nevermind :-p
00:55 Cprossu ok,
00:55 Cprossu so here's what we should do
00:55 tonsofpcs wait
00:55 yNos are they still out there?
00:55 tonsofpcs doesn't the mac have a video capture card?
00:56 yNos if he has his dongle
00:56 Cprossu ok here's what we should do then
00:56 Cprossu hang on
00:56 Cprossu we can use the secondary cap card I bet
00:56 yNos :D
00:56 tonsofpcs secondary cap card? lol
00:57 Cprossu in the stream PC
00:57 tggmc how good is the secondary?
00:57 Cprossu let's just do it over the primary, we'll run the footage twice?
00:57 tggmc yes run it twice
00:57 tonsofpcs tggmc: what do you have for a DVR? can't it spit out a file?
00:58 tggmc no, it's a stand alone DVR
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00:58 Cprossu I've opened up VLC tggmc
00:58 tonsofpcs make/model?
00:58 Cprossu on the secondary rig
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00:58 Cprossu but I'd reccomend
00:58 Cprossu when are you going to run footage to the stream?
00:59 * Cheezmo is running 4.1Mhash/s on his GPU for BitCoin mining
00:59 Cheezmo whee, got it working
00:59 Cprossu I will make a FME cut then, we'll run it there, I'll get it in .flv while we try to get capture the footage with VLC
00:59 Cprossu tggmc how does that sound?
00:59 tggmc no sound
00:59 tonsofpcs I was going to join bitcoin at thee start, then found it couldn't work with VMware on the machine.  Forget that
01:00 Cprossu no I mean the idea
01:00 Cheezmo I've got a nice ATI Radeon 5750 so it works out well :D
01:00 tggmc lets just use the black magic card becasue there is no DA on teh program out
01:00 tggmc even though theree should be
01:00 tggmc I don't have time to add it
01:00 tonsofpcs the saturn doesn't have two independent program outs?
01:00 Cprossu ring ring, neo... err tggmc
01:00 yNos how many video outs does the console have?
01:00 yNos and does a splitter exist?
01:00 yNos t off to both cards
01:00 tonsofpcs you don't split video.
01:01 tonsofpcs not unless one of the points has no termination
01:01 tonsofpcs actually.... does the intensity hhave aloop out?
01:01 Cheezmo good golly, imagine what kind of power I could harness if I'd actually use Windows 7
01:02 Cheezmo I have it installed, but have been using XP on an old hard drive
01:03 wannabe1987 ohio bans anti-michigan lic plates
01:03 wannabe1987 LOL
01:04 yNos what about the oIhateOhioState bumperstickers?
01:04 Cprossu we're screwing with things now
01:05 yNos we are shuffling shit from the looks of it ;)
01:05 yNos GAH! We broke dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net!
01:05 wannabe1987 yNos idk
01:06 wannabe1987 STOP BREAKING THINGS CLONING PEOPLE!
01:06 tonsofpcs or just astro
01:06 wannabe1987 don't break jamie!!!!! :(  :'(  his girl will be sad
01:07 wannabe1987 lwq1996
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01:08 * wannabe1987 has a fluffy puppy sleeping by her
01:08 wannabe1987 O!  and i got a new hair cut today :D
01:08 wannabe1987 its a new me!
01:08 wannabe1987 well, will be after everything is said and done (and paid for)
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01:09 wannabe1987 astro73!
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01:09 BotSteve Master. *bows*
01:09 * yNos thinks a rockabilly tatood wanabe would be be interesting...
01:09 wannabe1987 no....
01:09 wannabe1987 i'm gonna get a christian fish on the ankle and the word LOVE on the left wrist
01:10 wannabe1987 like, the part where you get your pulse done at
01:10 yNos egrsteve: you at mc?
01:10 yNos tggmc: ^
01:11 yNos looks like i've seen this before :D
01:13 yNos the stream is lookin hawt!
01:13 Cheezmo hm, comp needs a reboot, bbiab
01:13 wannabe1987 ok
01:13 Cheezmo gonna do some cleaning too
01:13 Cheezmo CPU is a stifle dusty :P
01:14 yNos like we need to wire something up to a nst kinda hawt!
01:14 SparkyProjects1 That needs to go on another YT channel and a link posted outside the building :D
01:14 yNos and this is the part where moose thought she saw someone getting a bj..
01:14 Druidic_Rifleman wh\\i am bored
01:14 wannabe1987 ...
01:14 Cprossu oh this sucks they got into the generator
01:15 tggmc doesn't look like they damaged it though
01:15 tggmc just looked at it
01:15 Cprossu good. I forgot about our BW cap
01:15 Cprossu it's throttling it pretty good now
01:15 yNos yay
01:15 yNos ...
01:15 Cprossu let me know when it ends on your end egrsteve.
01:15 tggmc ok
01:15 Cprossu we'll have about a minute left after that
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01:16 tggmc they are walking away, moose pulls in
01:16 yNos tggmc: irssi lives on the machine in the rack too ;)
01:16 yNos you can login down there if you want.
01:16 Cprossu they just went to undamaged transformer tggmc
01:16 Cprossu opened gen for a moment
01:16 tggmc adn done
01:17 tggmc going for reset
01:17 Cprossu ok
01:21 * Bat-Mobile stops monitoring channel
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01:22 tggmc back in mc
01:22 yNos http://www.zoneminder.com/
01:23 BotSteve Title: ZoneMinder - ZoneMinder: Linux Home CCTV and Video Camera Security with Motion Detection
01:23 Monkeh|Lap Mmm, morons on video.
01:23 Cprossu oh shit egrsteve
01:23 Cprossu we should disabled the audio
01:23 tggmc oh well
01:24 yNos the audio?
01:24 Cprossu the stream lol
01:24 Cprossu *scanner
01:24 * yNos doesnt have speakers hoocked up..
01:24 Monkeh|Lap Why?
01:24 tggmc scanner muted
01:24 yNos there wasnt audio there.. was there?
01:24 tggmc no audio on footage
01:24 yNos do the cams have mics?
01:24 yNos OH
01:24 yNos you recorded it
01:24 tggmc no, legaly can't unless you put signs up
01:25 yNos damn multi-pary laws
01:25 Monkeh|Lap Put signs up!
01:25 tggmc michigan is single party
01:25 yNos i think texas is the only single-party state...
01:25 Monkeh|Lap "Anything you do on or around this property is recorded. We're watching you."
01:25 Cprossu http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/300618406
01:25 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv - The Geek Group - The Geek Group Live!
01:25 Cprossu ^ first video
01:26 Cprossu attempt
01:26 tggmc and off tehy go
01:26 tggmc stopping deck soon
01:26 Cprossu done.
01:27 Cprossu http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/300618580
01:27 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv - The Geek Group - The Geek Group Live!
01:28 Cprossu ^ should be the one to dump
01:28 Cprossu wait I am incorrect!
01:29 tggmc back in mc
01:29 Cprossu waiting for the last broadcast to process
01:29 tggmc ok
01:29 tggmc brb
01:29 Cprossu kk
01:29 Cprossu plug your phone in if you have a charger
01:30 Cprossu http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/300618860 <-ok this looks like a winner
01:30 yNos he is in a room with a bunch of computers.. he needs an appropriate cable.. not a charger ;)
01:30 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv - The Geek Group - The Geek Group Live!
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01:31 Cprossu oooh I found something near
01:31 Cprossu *neat
01:31 dbshortwave are those transformers live?
01:31 egrsteve no sadly
01:31 dbshortwave or least wired ?
01:31 dbshortwave crap
01:31 egrsteve no
01:32 egrsteve this is egrsteve from the engine room
01:32 egrsteve my phone is 8 years old, it would need a charger
01:32 dbshortwave how much of the transformers are left?
01:32 egrsteve most of, only got in the side cabinate
01:33 egrsteve cprossu, do we have a clean clip
01:33 Cprossu give me a few minutes to see if I can download the clip without ripping it
01:33 egrsteve ok
01:34 dbshortwave repairable?
01:34 dbshortwave the green box is the generator right ?
01:35 yNos eh?
01:35 egrsteve yes
01:35 yNos http://store.bluecherry.net/products/PV%252d149-%252d-4-port-video-capture-card-%28120FPS%29-%252d-Realtime-recording.html
01:35 BotSteve Title: PV-149 - 4 port video capture card (120FPS) - Realtime recording - Bluecherry
01:35 dbshortwave oh damn
01:35 Cprossu egrsteve this gave me an idea
01:35 egrsteve ok
01:36 Cprossu in the state of MI is it illegal to record police scanners on security vide?
01:36 Cprossu *video
01:36 egrsteve idk
01:36 egrsteve I don't see why not
01:38 Cprossu ok I did a dump, it's 30mb, I am going to see if it worked
01:38 egrsteve ok
01:41 yNos anyone know anything about the above bluecherry card?
01:42 wannabe1987 nobe
01:42 wannabe1987 nope* even
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01:49 eadthem tgg|yNos   hey i got info on the plasma cutter, if chris or batman gets on i can get the info to him
01:51 Cprossu well this is exciting.
01:52 eadthem http://web.archive.org/web/20030925043948/http://www.thermadyne.com/tdc/literature/pdfs/service/0_2444.pdf
01:52 eadthem trying to decode the fuzzy schmatic images atm
01:52 eadthem http://web.archive.org/web/20040827103906/http://www.thermadyne.com/tdc/literature/pdfs/service/0_2440.pdf
01:52 yNos eadthem: its not likely they will get on here..
01:52 yNos i will link it to them
01:52 Druidic_Rifleman good job eadthem
01:53 eadthem http://web.archive.org/web/20040827114355/http://www.thermadyne.com/tdc/literature/pdfs/service/0_2523.pdf
01:53 eadthem now these are not stakpak II
01:53 eadthem but i bet there dam near the same   as this is the model right after that  as far as i can tell
01:53 * Cprossu can now look at the captains blog
01:54 eadthem anyhow its a linear supply so first thing would be to ohm out the transformer
01:54 Cprossu so let me make a cut here
01:54 Cprossu that way we can have a justin.tv security cam cut
01:54 Cprossu done.
01:55 egrsteve I will put scanner on and leave it here for the night
01:56 Cprossu so anything else egrsteve tggmc for this exciting night?
01:56 Cprossu sounds good egrsteve
01:56 egrsteve no, home, sleep
01:56 Cprossu I'll make another cut in the morning
01:57 eadthem Druidic_Rifleman yNos or anyone else able to get them info
01:57 eadthem F1 the 2 amp fuse that keeps blowing   goes to  J14A B or C  depening on input voltage   A 200-240V    B 280-415V  c for 460V
01:57 eadthem thats 1 possable thing
01:57 wannabe1987 .tfw 49428
01:57 BotSteve 35°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Jenison, MI!  'Should have gone south'
01:58 eadthem witch are taps on the input of the tranformer
01:59 wannabe1987 anyone in the huds/jenison area of MI need a housemate/roommate?
01:59 SparkyProjects1 eadthem, yNos,  i made a comment that the back of the cutter has a couple of holes, one under the 380 mark seems to have a marker in it, suggesting it's a 3 phase unit.
01:59 SparkyProjects1 The 3 phases go into a 3 phase rectifier, if it's only got single phase that may overload the fuse
01:59 eadthem the 2 amp fuse is the control circut system
02:00 eadthem see 2440.pdf above    page 66  quadrent  b3 / b2
02:00 SparkyProjects1 Is it the control fuse blowing ?
02:00 SparkyProjects1 Then yes, ok, but again is it set for the right voltage and phase
02:00 eadthem and b4
02:00 eadthem ya voltage i was thinking might be a issue
02:01 eadthem the white and black phase must be connected for operation
02:01 eadthem red  is semi optional
02:02 eadthem black and white will make it turn on   red is more required to accualy strike a arc and put a load on it
02:02 SparkyProjects1 But if they are only supplying a unit that is set for 380 with 240, .....
02:02 SparkyProjects1 Check the blog and look for the white dot in the back
02:02 eadthem not sure why lower voltage would kill it
02:03 SparkyProjects1 lower voltage = higher current
02:03 eadthem i was thinking like maby it was set for J14A 215V and run at say 380V
02:03 eadthem lower voltage = lower current   its not a SMPS
02:03 eadthem all linear
02:04 egrsteve cprossu can you record it one more time?
02:04 Cprossu I could
02:04 SparkyProjects1 Run an inductor on a lower voltage and try to gett the same power out and it will struggle
02:04 Cprossu just once more for good measure?
02:04 Cprossu egrsteve: explain
02:05 Cprossu OHHHHHHH I see
02:05 egrsteve I think I can get more shawow detail
02:05 eadthem if you run a linear supply at a lower than normal voltage it will put out a lower than normal voltage
02:05 Cprossu ok let me setup
02:06 Cprossu ok
02:06 Cprossu let me know when you are ready to go and I'll start the stream
02:06 Cprossu I am blind right now until the stream comes back up @ egrsteve
02:06 SparkyProjects1 p=I*v
02:06 Cprossu so let me know
02:07 eadthem but p is not a constant
02:07 eadthem its not a SMPS
02:07 eadthem V = I * R
02:07 eadthem v is lower  i gets lower
02:07 eadthem R is more or less constant   becuase its linear
02:08 SparkyProjects1 OK, whatever you say, let yNos sort it out
02:09 eadthem on a smps   the duty cycle will change to compensate for lower input voltage  thus also pulling more current keeping P constnat
02:10 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Let the unix geek sort out the plasma cutter? I am not sure this is a sound plan.
02:10 SparkyProjects1 I was brought up pre-smps, but i'm not going to argue the point.
02:10 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: ;)
02:11 SparkyProjects1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3shxFH2CY @ 8:34 is what i'm talking about.
02:11 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 11-20-11 DRSSTC, Plasma Cutter, Strobes and Siren for Geek-1 - YouTube
02:12 egrsteve Ynos
02:12 Cprossu stopped stream
02:12 Cprossu will grab that in a bit
02:12 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: #t=8m34s
02:13 eadthem i see the specs
02:13 egrsteve botsteve: tell ynos can you get a cat5 from the NOC to the tool room: Via lounge Via radio, hole in floor by rack (you will need to drill it (1" or larger)) across halway and into toolroon along conduit by mdh wall
02:13 BotSteve egrsteve: I'll pass that on when ynos is around.
02:14 eadthem but you got to remeber this plasma cutter is in 2 seperate circuts
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02:14 eadthem the 2 amp fuse is the low voltage control circut
02:14 SparkyProjects1 eadthem, do you see the white dot below the 380 ?
02:14 Druidic_Rifleman My video editing program is on C drive
02:14 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: 1"? How many cables does batman need?
02:14 eadthem i see VAC below 380+
02:14 eadthem and a hole next to it
02:14 Druidic_Rifleman YAY I can do videos
02:14 egrsteve BotSteve: tell ynos run it into mdh and drill a hole by the camera into the tool room it's along the existing cable route
02:14 BotSteve egrsteve: I'll pass that on when ynos is around.
02:15 egrsteve toolroom is going to be a remote monitering site
02:15 yNos back
02:15 BotSteve yNos: I have the following messages for you:
02:15 SparkyProjects1 There's a hole under both sets of voltages, the 380 is white
02:15 yNos whats up?
02:15 BotSteve At 02:13Z, egrsteve asked me to tell yNos can you get a cat5 from the NOC to the tool room: Via lounge Via radio, hole in floor by rack (you will need to drill it (1" or larger)) across halway and into toolroon along conduit by mdh wall
02:15 eadthem ya  i see that
02:15 eadthem but its rewireable
02:15 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Looks like it's set to 380 which I assume is their nominal 3P voltage, which afaik is what they wired it for.
02:16 egrsteve nos run it into mdh and drill a hole by the camera into the tool room it's along the existing cable route
02:16 yNos how many runs?
02:16 egrsteve Ynos^
02:16 yNos just one?
02:16 eadthem now the transformer  T1  in cord B4  page 66 is a low power tranformer for a linear supply for the control circut only    seperate from the power circut
02:16 egrsteve single cat5 for now unless you want to get him wired netweork too
02:16 yNos i do.
02:16 Monkeh|Lap If you're doing one run you may as well do several.
02:16 SparkyProjects1 It's 120 in the states, so 240 ? is the 3 phase voltage, but they can get 380 3 phase if it's available.
02:17 yNos not sure if we have much cable though
02:17 Cprossu egrsteve uploading now
02:17 egrsteve ok
02:17 yNos did someone "aquire" some?
02:17 eadthem if its tapped to J14A but  there putting more than 240V in then that would cause the fuse failure   as would a bad transformer
02:17 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: They seem to have six different ways of feeding a house, so..
02:17 egrsteve I had some hidden in MC
02:17 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: God knows what it's like for a commercial/industrial building.
02:17 egrsteve its' in the NOC
02:17 yNos ok
02:17 eadthem the power circut is a SMPS style setup  so  as you put a lower voltage in it  the current draw increases
02:17 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Frankly, we have it bad enough with single, split, and three-phase with multiple earthing arrangements.
02:18 Cprossu all right egrsteve you're uploaded live_user_thegeekgroup_1321927665.flv
02:18 SparkyProjects1 Yeah, that's why American power is weird.
02:18 SparkyProjects1 We have 240 single, 415 3 phase.
02:18 SparkyProjects1 ANything higher is by very special request.
02:18 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: There's always split-phase.
02:18 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Which is 460 phase to phase for a new installation, 480 for old.
02:18 Cprossu egrsteve I see blurrrrrr on the camera near the noc xD
02:19 egrsteve that was me
02:19 Cprossu yep
02:19 Cprossu hence the xD
02:19 Cprossu making nightly cut NOW
02:19 eadthem at work the masters are all 480V to padmounts inside    and then everything else is 3 phase 120/208
02:19 egrsteve thanks
02:19 Cprossu well this is going to be interesting
02:20 egrsteve ?
02:20 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: See, even for three-phase they run silly low voltages.
02:20 SparkyProjects1 We rarely do that, though some welders are split phase.
02:20 SparkyProjects1 The supply company prefers to have everything reasonably balanced
02:20 Cprossu retards @ night egrsteve
02:21 egrsteve ah yeas
02:21 yNos yeah..too bad the light on the xformers washes out the rest of the frame
02:21 eadthem what im thinking is they wired up the high power lugs for 240V operation  and didnt move J14 to position A
02:21 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: I'm not sure where you are, but down here in Cornwall there's a lot of rural setups which don't have three-phase HV supplies
02:21 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: So split-phase gets some use in larger properties
02:22 eadthem and the transformers blown
02:22 Cprossu we get to watch steve exit the building and drive his car away at some point lol
02:22 egrsteve not if I don't want you to
02:23 Cprossu true.
02:23 Cprossu I did say at some point too
02:23 eadthem or  there accualy trying to supply it with more than 240V and the high powers wired for that   but they left  J14 on position A and the higher input voltage + the low voltage tap on the control tranformer is popping the fuse
02:23 Cprossu sooner or later you'll foget
02:23 Cprossu *forget
02:24 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Oh, and don't forget all the split-phase installs of varying size at somewhat lower voltages. Some of them are portable. ;)
02:24 SparkyProjects1 Yeah i know, but it's not a preferred method.
02:25 SparkyProjects1 And yeah, there's even a 6 phase supply in Oxfordshire where i used to live :P
02:25 SparkyProjects1 and there's 6KV motor supplies too
02:25 eadthem what do the hauss machines run on at the labs
02:25 eadthem 208 3
02:25 egrsteve Ynos if you have enough cable can you send me cat5 from the NOC to MC, follow the other white one there
02:25 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: I've got a photo of a 6-phase cabinet here somewhere.
02:26 eadthem or is it 240 3  280 3?
02:26 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Big, meaty thing which wants to kill you.
02:26 eadthem or even higher
02:26 yNos i think i might be able to do that.
02:26 yNos not sure when i am going to get there tomorrow.
02:27 egrsteve thanks, hwhen you get a chance
02:27 yNos can you leave a camera and a couple baluns out? i would like to do some testing tomorrow.
02:27 yNos proof of concept.
02:27 egrsteve ok
02:27 yNos thanks
02:28 eadthem so anyone know aboout the machines?
02:28 yNos which machines?
02:28 eadthem hauss
02:28 eadthem whats there input voltage
02:28 yNos not sure.
02:29 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Ah, here's some of the interesting ones.
02:29 egrsteve it's all on the box of cat5
02:29 yNos badass
02:29 yNos thanks.
02:29 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: http://www.askthetrades.co.uk/gallery/Lectrician/1268672974.jpg
02:29 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: What does that look like?
02:29 yNos what kind of output do they have?
02:29 egrsteve composite
02:29 yNos rf?
02:29 yNos cool
02:29 egrsteve this cam is B&W
02:29 yNos good 'nuff fer what it is.
02:30 dbshortwave what cam is it ?
02:30 SparkyProjects1 That's a 3 phase spreader box for a meter, you can see the 3 fuse positions
02:30 yNos have a ps also?
02:30 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: It'll either be 208V 3-phase or 380V 3-phase, I imagine the latter because nobody in their right mind uses a voltage as low as 208V for real machinery.
02:31 egrsteve yes
02:31 CaptainNiobe lol
02:31 yNos ok
02:31 CaptainNiobe oops
02:31 egrsteve Ikegami
02:31 CaptainNiobe damn, now i did it, pj!
02:31 yNos sorry, bouncing between boden and irc...
02:31 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Looks like a 3-phase TN-C-S. It's actually split-phase TN-S.
02:31 SparkyProjects1 :D
02:31 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: When DNO installers don't read their memos.
02:31 eadthem k well that would quite likely explain it if they tryed powering it on with 380V
02:32 yNos CaptainNiobe, Hello!
02:32 CaptainNiobe g'day, yNos, how's it hanging?
02:32 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Just because one machine there is powered by 380V doesn't mean a lower voltage isn't available?
02:32 eadthem true
02:32 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: And the back of it sure looks to be set to 380V.
02:33 yNos goin well
02:33 eadthem but they didnt say  so all i got to go on is that with the back of the machine and the fact that the big CNC probably uses 380  they prob did as well
02:33 yNos did you see the exciting footage?
02:33 CaptainNiobe sweet :)
02:33 CaptainNiobe i did... lol... anything done yet?
02:33 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Chris is a smart guy. I imagine he checked that before applying juice.
02:33 eadthem thats all i have to go on  and that would answer the fuse poping   expecialy if it was joe simons personal buzz box   he probably had it running on 240 single phase
02:33 Monkeh|Lap yNos: You've got the Captain there, ask him what voltage they fed it.
02:34 SparkyProjects1 eadthem, that spreader is wired as 3 phase and Neutral/Earth, how they connect the outgoing may make a difference.
02:34 SparkyProjects1 I assume by  split phase you mean only using 2 phases (no neutral)
02:34 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: It had no cable and he said it was as-is (ie. he has no idea), so I doubt it was even his.
02:34 lwq1996 ynos you happy they caught the scrapers
02:34 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Wired incorrectly.
02:34 eadthem its hard to know
02:35 SparkyProjects1 And there's no green sleeving on the earth, and it's not a good wiring job
02:35 yNos he is on a DVR rampage right now..
02:35 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: They ended up using the grey as neutral
02:35 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: There doesn't have to be, afaik.
02:35 dbshortwave lol
02:35 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: It's not to BS7671. The DNOs don't operate under those regs.
02:35 yNos we havent caught them.. we have seen and documetned them..
02:35 yNos now comes the fun
02:36 dbshortwave Captain Boden is now going to have some fun with these 2 im guessing
02:36 Monkeh|Lap dbshortwave: Catch them at it again and have a polite word, with the concealed carry not so concealed? ;)
02:37 yNos Cprossu: were you able to rip the video into something more usefull?
02:37 SparkyProjects1 Try reading the regs
02:37 SparkyProjects1 But then that sort of thing is usually wired by the supply authority, they are a law unto themselves :P
02:37 SparkyProjects1 I've done the old cast iron and bitumen joints before (private site supply)
02:37 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: I have read the regs.
02:37 Cprossu yNos ripped it into flv, vlc can play flv
02:37 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: BS7671 does not apply to DNO installations.
02:37 dbshortwave id say hit them with a bat and hang them up in the high voltage lab by th ankles
02:37 yNos Cprossu: he wants it on a thumb drive he can take to the police.
02:37 Cprossu and we can indeed transcove that to anything we want
02:37 Cprossu *transcode
02:37 dbshortwave and introduce them the gemini
02:37 yNos should i turn on ftp so we can post it at tgg?
02:38 Cprossu ask egrsteve
02:38 Cprossu he has the file
02:38 yNos ah
02:38 yNos egrsteve: you still around?
02:38 egrsteve about to leave
02:38 yNos can you post that file somewhere?
02:38 egrsteve ask captain
02:38 egrsteve if he wants it out yet
02:38 yNos not publicly
02:38 yNos internal
02:39 yNos private ftp
02:39 egrsteve I can
02:39 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Which, I hope, is NOT FTP. ;)
02:39 lwq1996 ynos are they caught as in jail?
02:39 yNos internally...
02:39 yNos no
02:39 Monkeh|Lap yNos: If it's on an internal network there are much nicer protocols to use.
02:40 lwq1996 damn
02:40 Cprossu yNos can we post their pic on the side of the transformer?
02:40 egrsteve ynos chaeck pm
02:40 Cprossu xD
02:40 Cprossu that'd be pretty funny
02:40 egrsteve I'm headed home ttyl
02:41 lwq1996 .yuno
02:41 BotSteve Rebecca Black: Y U NO JUST CHOOSE SEAT????????????
02:41 lwq1996 lol
02:41 CaptainNiobe hey, Cprossu, thanks for helping tori yesterday... you fixed a very niggly issue =i had no clue how to fix... *hugs*
02:42 eadthem can you not post a URL in a comment?
02:42 dbshortwave lee, check facebook lol
02:42 eadthem on youtube
02:42 Cprossu no problem.
02:42 Cprossu dns redir's are fiddly
02:42 CaptainNiobe i noticed lol
02:43 CaptainNiobe before he reformatted, i was using hosts to keep the important sites open
02:43 SparkyProjects1 And there goes Steve :D
02:43 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Ugh, someone somewhere was screwing with DNS?
02:43 Cprossu I've got him on level 3 for now CaptainNiobe
02:43 yNos looks odd to see him walk out of the building.
02:44 CaptainNiobe level 3?
02:44 Cprossu it's even odder to see his car leave
02:44 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Does he normally levitate out instead?
02:44 Cprossu CaptainNiobe: they have a dns backbone and maintain it
02:44 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: usually he leaves flaming tire marks and a backwards explosion.
02:44 yNos he has mad nija skills
02:44 CaptainNiobe ahhhhhhh, so that's what the 4.2.2.2 for preferred dns server was about?
02:44 yNos appears and disappears
02:44 Cprossu CaptainNiobe exactly
02:45 CaptainNiobe i take it that bypasses his isp's dns settings then?
02:45 Cprossu yeah
02:45 Cprossu and that server is one of the least likely to be poisoned
02:45 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Not that it's one specific server. ;)
02:45 Cprossu as they'd catch it rather early
02:45 Cprossu indeed
02:45 Cprossu but you know what I mean
02:46 Cprossu that 'system'
02:46 yNos we avoid comcast dns at all costs
02:46 Cprossu is one of the least likely candidates for dns poison.
02:46 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Also good is Google DNS, if you like them tracking your every resolve.
02:46 yNos other than flakey, they spoof a few things.
02:46 CaptainNiobe lol... tori isn't on comcast though lol
02:46 Monkeh|Lap yNos: I avoid ISP supplied DNS at all costs.
02:46 Cprossu yeah I don't know what tori's on
02:46 yNos it is not hard to setup bind.. it doesnt take up much resource wise eather
02:46 CaptainNiobe i don't seem to have an issue with my isp's dns
02:46 Cprossu but their ISP's dns is a mess
02:47 Monkeh|Lap yNos: In my experience they're all broken (ignore TTL and I will hurt you.), unreliable, and filter out anything they decide isn't nice.
02:47 Cprossu I think it got drilled
02:47 CaptainNiobe tori's on earthlink/time warner
02:47 Cprossu that would explain quite a bit
02:47 CaptainNiobe oh?
02:47 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Hell, 99% of distros come with a simple, secure bind setup for use as a simple caching resolver. Just install and start.
02:47 yNos exactly
02:47 yNos thats why i said it was easy ;)
02:48 Cprossu they are notorious for faulty redirects that lead to question pages CaptainNiobe
02:48 Monkeh|Lap Mine is a little more complicated but I'm a weird guy.
02:48 Cprossu and other places
02:48 CaptainNiobe ah-ha! i see... :D
02:48 Cprossu despite a site actually being there
02:48 Monkeh|Lap It's also fairly broken right now.
02:48 yNos Monkeh|Lap: you should see the Lab's configuration ;)
02:48 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Well mine is sort of half-updated by DHCP but the zonefile isn't writable because bind screws up my nice, orderly zonefile, so.. yeah, it gets confusing sometimes. And breaks randomly.
02:48 Monkeh|Lap I need to rewrite it.
02:49 CaptainNiobe Cprossu, am curious, how did you get rid of win32.fraudload?
02:49 yNos try maintaining it when you are using dynamic dns..
02:49 Monkeh|Lap yNos: I am internally, see DHCP.
02:49 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Night. Mare.
02:50 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Also, whyfore are ISC so annoying?
02:50 Monkeh|Lap yNos: bind and dhcpd are about the only real options for their respective functions and both are really annoying in at least several ways.
02:50 yNos dhcp can update dns, but using key based nsupdate gets interesting.
02:51 Monkeh|Lap yNos: By interesting, you mean 'hair tearingly frustrating'?
02:51 yNos more like.. not all that readable..
02:51 Monkeh|Lap That too.
02:51 yNos unless you split out a seperate sub for your dns
02:52 yNos and for your statics
02:52 yNos and for your dyndns area
02:52 yNos time 10 vlans...
02:52 yNos keep'm seperate.
02:52 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Which more or less defeats the purpose of having it all dynamically updated for easy access.
02:52 yNos that is the big thing for management
02:52 eadthem BotSteve: tell captanBoden http://web.archive.org/web/20040827112843/http://www.thermadyne.com/tdc/literature/pdfs/service/0_2444.pdf
02:52 BotSteve eadthem: I'll pass that on when captanBoden is around.
02:53 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: He'll get that in about two months.
02:53 eadthem i cant beleve that even moderated comments you cant put a link in on youtube
02:53 yNos eadthem: its faster to pm him in acebook
02:53 eadthem owell i told him in the comment to bug yNos or sparkyprojects  because i told both of them the link
02:54 eadthem but facebook is the best way to send links in response to captans blog?
02:54 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Put it on a small USB stick and post it. ;)
02:55 astro73|mal hello world
02:56 Monkeh|Lap Small world.
02:56 SparkyProjects1 or you could email info@...
02:56 astro73|mal possibly
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02:58 BatSteve sup
02:58 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
02:58 BotSteve At 21 Nov 17:05Z, Seroster asked me to tell BatSteve When you tell the bot .c PI to the last digit it should give you "ERROR ERROR ERROR *360headspin* ERROR ERROR ERROR"
02:59 astro73|mal .... really?
02:59 astro73|mal .insult Toastdude
02:59 BotSteve Hey, astro73|mal, if you keep that up, I'll rip your arm off and beat you with the wet end.
02:59 Toastdude BatSteve!
02:59 BotSteve Toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
02:59 BotSteve At 00:33Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell Toastdude that last night my internet broke and i couldn't fix it at all :(
03:00 BatSteve (I believe that the bot's powers should be used only for good.  That is why any attempt to insult other users results in an insult to yourself.)
03:02 yNos .insult
03:02 BotSteve Hey, yNos, don't feel bad, I think your poor self-image is *completely* justified.
03:02 yNos nice
03:02 yNos i like that one
03:03 Monkeh|Lap .insult
03:03 BotSteve Hey, Monkeh|Lap, don't feel bad, I think your poor self-image is *completely* justified.
03:03 BatSteve we need more insults
03:03 Monkeh|Lap It's repeating itself.
03:03 BatSteve there are currently only six
03:03 Monkeh|Lap Unacceptable.
03:03 BatSteve I agree
03:03 dbshortwave nite all
03:03 BatSteve send insult submissions to BatSteve in PM
03:03 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Could always feed it sudo's insult file.
03:03 BatSteve sudo has an insult file?
03:03 eadthem sudo has a insult file?
03:04 CaptainNiobe oh, can we have some yo momma jokes for insults?
03:04 BatSteve CaptainNiobe:  send insult submissions to BatSteve in PM
03:04 BatSteve (:
03:04 BatSteve so, yes
03:04 BatSteve yes we can
03:04 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Does for me.
03:04 CaptainNiobe :D
03:04 BatSteve Monkeh|Lap: tell me more of this
03:04 eadthem mmm BotSteve being able to approprealty use yo momma jokes would be something to see
03:05 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Let me dig it up.
03:05 * CaptainNiobe runs off to get joke book
03:05 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Your distro likely doesn't use it because it might hurt people.
03:05 yNos feed it some of the fortune insults...
03:05 yNos .fortune
03:05 BotSteve Bus error -- driver executed.
03:05 BatSteve .fortune
03:05 BotSteve Machines certainly can solve problems, store information, correlate, and play games -- but not with pleasure. -- Leo Rosten
03:05 yNos .fortune -h
03:06 BotSteve The more data I punch in this card, the lighter it becomes, and the lower the mailing cost. -- S. Kelly-Bootle, "The Devil's DP Dictionary"
03:06 BatSteve Right now I think I have it configured to only pull fortunes related to programming
03:06 BatSteve regardless of what switches you use
03:06 yNos .fortune\ -h
03:06 yNos doesnotparse
03:07 BatSteve that's because ".fortune\" != ".fortune"
03:07 yNos ;)
03:07 yNos '.fortune'
03:07 Katemonster batsteve!
03:08 BatSteve Katemonster!
03:09 Katemonster how you?
03:09 BatSteve Good!  Putting off homework and trying to find more insults for BotSteve!
03:09 BatSteve .insult
03:09 BotSteve Hey, BatSteve, i'd hit you, but I don't want to get stupid on my hands.
03:09 Katemonster lol
03:09 Katemonster .insult
03:09 BotSteve Hey, Katemonster, I would have been your father, but the other guy had exact change.
03:09 Monkeh|Lap #ifdef PC_INSULTS
03:09 Monkeh|Lap "Listen, broccoli brains, I don't have time to listen to this trash.",
03:09 Monkeh|Lap #else
03:09 Monkeh|Lap "Listen, burrito brains, I don't have time to listen to this trash.",
03:09 Monkeh|Lap #endif
03:09 yNos lolololol.. "English says that if you and I are together, you come before me."
03:10 Monkeh|Lap How sad the world has become to require a politically correct option for that.
03:10 BatSteve wait
03:10 Katemonster .insult Druidic_Rifleman
03:10 BotSteve Hey, Katemonster, i'd hit you, but I don't want to get stupid on my hands.
03:10 BatSteve "burrito" is not politically correct?
03:10 Katemonster sadface.
03:10 BatSteve wtf
03:10 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: My point exactly.
03:10 BatSteve Katemonster: I believe that the bot's powers should be used only for good.  That is why any attempt to insult other users results in an insult to yourself.
03:10 Katemonster ha!
03:10 Katemonster fair enough.
03:11 Druidic_Rifleman what did i do>
03:11 yNos $ fortune -o
03:11 yNos Q:  What do you do with an elephant with three balls?
03:11 yNos A:  Walk him and pitch to the rhino.
03:11 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: In this sad, soft world some see it as a racial slur.
03:11 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: See sudo source for more.
03:11 Druidic_Rifleman .BotSteve should I quit drinking?
03:12 Monkeh|Lap "Speak English you fool --- there are no subtitles in this scene."
03:12 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Oh yeah.
03:12 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Can you have it kick people for dividing by zero?
03:13 BatSteve Burrito is a racial slur?
03:13 BatSteve that's ridiculous
03:13 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Welcome to political correctness.
03:13 BatSteve I'll tell you what a real racial slur is
03:14 BatSteve Until the handle breaks off
03:14 BatSteve and you have to get a doctor to pull it out
03:14 Monkeh|Lap Oh no you won't?
03:14 yNos i need this shirt...
03:14 yNos "You have to regard everything I say with suspicion -- I may be trying
03:14 yNos to bullshit you, or I may just be bullshitting you inadvertently." -- J. Wainwright, Mathematics 140b
03:15 BatSteve THAT's a racial slur!
03:16 BatSteve .w list of movies released in 2011
03:16 BotSteve "The year 2011 is notable for containing the release of the most film sequels in a single year, at 27 sequels." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_in_film
03:16 BatSteve Close enough!
03:16 Monkeh|Lap 2011: The year we ran out of new ideas.
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03:17 Monkeh|Lap Ah, crap, up in five hours.
03:17 Katemonster no, that was the year we released Snakes on a Plane
03:17 Katemonster and now we also are getting We Bought a Zoo
03:18 Monkeh|Lap Katemonster: Hey, Snakes on a Plane was cool!
03:18 Monkeh|Lap Ish.
03:18 Katemonster LOL
03:19 Katemonster .g xkcd snakes on every plane
03:19 BotSteve Katemonster: http://xkcd.com/107/
03:19 Monkeh|Lap It was cool because it had Samuel L. Jackson. And.. that was mostly it, actually.
03:20 Monkeh|Lap I'm surprised there wasn't a reference to it in Bulletstorm.
03:21 Monkeh|Lap Right. Must sleep.
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03:22 Monkeh|Lap Katemonster: Also, you killed the chat.
03:22 Katemonster i did no such thing
03:22 InteliWasp i see the stream has the security camms
03:22 Katemonster i take no responsibility for this, or anything else.
03:23 BatSteve bye Monkeh
03:24 InteliWasp is it just me or is the date/time off with the stream?
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03:28 BatSteve haha, this is cool
03:28 BatSteve http://hackertyper.com/
03:28 BotSteve Title: Hacker Typer
03:29 yNos http://xkcd.com/977/
03:29 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Map Projections
03:29 yNos and what they say about you
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03:35 Katemonster shameless plug: http://fav.me/d4gnx2u
03:35 BotSteve Title: Transgender Awareness Gel Bracelets by ~CaspianSeaMonster on deviantART
03:35 Katemonster read the description.
03:38 * yNos needs to get to bed
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03:40 Toastdude Kate!
03:40 Katemonster TOAST!
03:40 Toastdude !soNy olleH
03:40 Toastdude (yNos)
03:41 yNos :D
03:41 yNos i need to get to bed
03:41 yNos early start tomorrow :D
03:41 yNos later all
03:41 * yNos waves
03:41 lwq1996 later yno
03:41 lwq1996 ynos
03:44 BatSteve bye ynos
03:45 Toastdude Bye yNos
03:45 egrsteve|away bye ynos
03:57 BatSteve .in 12 hours, remind BatSteve that he needs to facebook the thing
03:57 BotSteve BatSteve: Okay, will remind on 22 Nov 2011 at 15:57Z
03:57 Katemonster lol, the thing.
03:59 BatSteve The thing!
03:59 BatSteve The thing is our master!
03:59 BatSteve The thing decides who will go and who will stay!
04:01 astro73|mal This is pathetic.
04:04 Toastdude Lol
04:04 y007ghg7- http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luwzwyPHa81r257blo1_500.png
04:05 tonsofpcs thing?
04:05 tonsofpcs you mean the hand that walks across the table?
04:06 BatSteve or the hand that rocks the cradle?
04:06 BatSteve or the hand that spins the dreidel?
04:07 astro73|mal the soviet spy bug? The video game? The Phil Harris song?
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04:09 Cheezmo totally forgot to open IRC on boot
04:10 Cheezmo but my comp's running well lower thanks to de-dusting the innards
04:10 Cheezmo full-load was 48°c, now it's 42°c
04:10 Cheezmo hex-core @ 3.2GHz <3
04:15 egrsteve|away video should be on youtube soon
04:16 * Katemonster is gettin' The Word out
04:17 egrsteve|away good
04:17 astro73|mal oh yeah, sql
04:17 astro73|mal :P
04:17 tonsofpcs is that legal?
04:17 astro73|mal no, but it's probably all over the pirate bay already
04:18 tonsofpcs I mean, they were on private property, they have a reasonable expectation of privacy.  (yes, the law is this silly)
04:19 BatSteve I wonder if they retain that right when trespassing on private property?
04:19 BatSteve Actually.....i don't think you need the consent of both parties to display a recording in Michigan
04:19 tonsofpcs BatSteve: pretty sure that's case law in a state-by-state basis
04:20 tonsofpcs BatSteve: but they can claim that it is for commerce if it is tied to an organization that tries to raise funds by displaying videos....
04:20 BatSteve I forget
04:20 BatSteve Do they pixellate faces on Cops?
04:21 tonsofpcs some states make an outdoor/indoor distinction, distinctions based upon visibility from the street, ownership of the property, etc.
04:21 tonsofpcs BatSteve: depends on where it's shot and if they got consent
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04:22 BatSteve oh well
04:22 Isopropyl|Win95 rawr
04:22 BatSteve if it goes up on pirate bay, I want a link to the tracker
04:22 Isopropyl|Win95 my win95 has internet
04:22 tonsofpcs ^^
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04:22 Isopropyl|Win95 hey ajprog
04:22 egrsteve|away can't see the steet in this shot
04:23 egrsteve|away only a bit of a back alley in the PIP window
04:24 tonsofpcs link yet? :)
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04:27 Isopropyl|Radio hey
04:28 tonsofpcs I mean, you definitely don't want to call them criminals (of any kind) in the video title or description, they're "alleged theifs" or somesuch, otherwise it might be slander/libel/defamation of character.....
04:30 Isopropyl|Win95 joined #thegeekgroup
04:33 egrsteve|away that is a chris thing, he is posting it
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04:34 tonsofpcs again, silly  lawas
04:34 egrsteve|away on his facebook he titles pictures Idiot number 1 and # 2
04:34 tonsofpcs ha
04:34 egrsteve|away which is a valid statement of anyone touching a huge transformer
04:35 egrsteve|away and opening covers
04:35 egrsteve|away they could be fed from underground, many pad mounts are
04:37 douglas i have a erandom question about google chrome.
04:37 douglas random*
04:37 astro73|mal I have a random answer:
04:37 douglas how do i apply themes to chrome once i added it to it
04:38 astro73|mal douglas, SXdtcrU
04:38 douglas ....?
04:38 astro73|mal It's a random answer
04:39 tonsofpcs is that a bicycle helmet?
04:39 astro73|mal in all seriousness, in my experience, chrome can take a few minutes to apply a theme after you've "added" it
04:44 Isopropyl|Radio arrg begining to think this ess chipset is bad
04:44 Isopropyl|Win95 and it sucks
04:45 astro73|mal BatSteve, SQLite may have been excessive in much of BotSteve, but damn is it making this code simpler
04:46 BatSteve astro73|mal: yeah?
04:47 astro73|mal all the messy code in NickTracker? I'm rewriting it using SQLite. I've replaced a dozen lines with a single SQL statement
04:48 lwq1996 cprossu are you around?
04:49 Isopropyl|Radio i've paged him
04:49 Cprossu I heard I am needed?
04:49 Isopropyl|Radio we're in garry's mod
04:49 Cprossu lwq1996: ??
04:49 lwq1996 oh if you were doing something its not important but this just made me think of you
04:49 lwq1996 http://www.photoblip.com/pictures/4265/the-story-of-how-a-man-didn-t-work.html
04:49 BotSteve Title: The Story Of How A Man Didn't Work...
04:50 Cprossu I need to go get my kitteh
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04:50 Cprossu egrsteve|away
04:50 Cprossu we _could_
04:50 lwq1996 lol
04:50 Cprossu run the output of the industrial bug zapper to the transformer
04:51 Katemonster did someone send me a message?  i heard a highlight ping then FF crashed
04:51 Katemonster :/
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04:51 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it's a transformer.  Just submerge it in PCBs.
04:51 lwq1996 HAHA KATE
04:51 LemPhone ello all
04:51 Cprossu we like our transformers free of pcb's
04:51 LemPhone lol cprossu, nice comment in the topic
04:51 lwq1996 no. your never needed why would someone message kate :P
04:51 Katemonster oh bite me
04:51 lwq1996 im kidding kate
04:51 Cprossu thanks
04:51 Katemonster because people like me better than they like you?
04:51 tonsofpcs Cprossu: the theifs do too.
04:51 Katemonster :p
04:51 * lwq1996 gives kate a big hug
04:51 Katemonster i know you are
04:51 Ponko kate i'll bite you
04:51 Katemonster ohai.
04:51 Katemonster ponko i'll stab you.
04:52 lwq1996 oi oi ponko!
04:52 lwq1996 oh shit i picked up his lanuage
04:52 Ponko yeah i'll lap the blood up i'm a sick individual
04:52 lwq1996 lol
04:53 Katemonster well while you're at it you can repost this on FB http://fav.me/d4gnx2u
04:53 BotSteve Title: Transgender Awareness Gel Bracelets by ~CaspianSeaMonster on deviantART
04:53 Cheezmo anybody wanna buy a 10th Doctor's Sonic Screwdriver before I list it on eBay?
04:53 Cheezmo :P
04:53 lwq1996 a what?
04:53 Cheezmo from Doctor Who
04:53 egrsteve|away tennent?
04:53 Cheezmo only $75 :D
04:53 lwq1996 picture?
04:54 Cheezmo sec
04:55 Cheezmo http://www.ebay.com/itm/DOCTOR-10TH-SONIC-SCREWDRIVER-ELECTRONIC-LIGHT-SOUND-PSYCHIC-PAPER-WALLET-/330642263384?pt=UK_ToysGames_ActionFigures_ActionFigures_JN&amp;hash=item4cfbd08d58
04:55 BotSteve Title: DOCTOR WHO 10TH SONIC SCREWDRIVER ELECTRONIC LIGHT & SOUND PSYCHIC PAPER WALLET | eBay
04:56 Cheezmo this box is rather rare too
04:56 Cheezmo with the pen and pad
04:57 lwq1996 i want 2...so i can have one to use and one to have as a collectable :P
04:57 Cheezmo $150+ship then :P
04:57 Cheezmo gettin a good deal, haha
04:57 lwq1996 um thats in GPB not us dollars P
04:57 lwq1996 :P
04:58 Cheezmo "Approximately US $94.72"
04:58 lwq1996 yeah
04:58 lwq1996 i dont have that type of money...im a 14 year old kid that found two dollars today
04:58 Cheezmo lol
04:58 Ponko ok katemonster i won't ever offer to bite you again
04:59 lwq1996 im not kididng that made my day
04:59 Cheezmo yeah, it would make my day too
04:59 Ponko its not because of the link
04:59 Cheezmo 24 and unemployed >_>
04:59 lwq1996 awe me sorry :(
04:59 Cheezmo that's what I get for deciding to get myself into Avionics
05:00 lwq1996 lol
05:00 Cheezmo hardly any jobs and nobody wants to hire someone that skilled for a fucking meat-stocker
05:00 * Cheezmo rages
05:00 lwq1996 im gona get my college degree in computer tech and maby go to a ctc for programing and electronic tech
05:01 Cheezmo WalMart pretty much refuses to hire me... I saw them with some new employees, many of them of weak mind
05:01 lwq1996 lol
05:01 astro73|mal shit. SQLite enforces single threading
05:02 lwq1996 lol
05:02 Ponko Cheezmo or you try for a job in your field and they won't hire you because you haven't got experience
05:02 Cheezmo It's kinda like that, but there's only 2 employers here and neither ever have openings
05:02 Ponko always the way
05:02 Cheezmo thinking of moving to Calgary or Victoria
05:03 LemPhone victoria australia?
05:03 Ponko Calgary hmmm conjures up Cool Runnings
05:03 Cheezmo nay
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05:03 LemPhone kk
05:03 Cheezmo Victoria, British Columbia
05:03 Cheezmo on Vancouver Island across from Vancouver
05:03 LemPhone yeah, gathered as much
05:04 Cheezmo and Best Buy hired 2 of my friends
05:04 Cheezmo my friends that I DO TECH SUPPORT FOR
05:04 Ponko Cheezmo if by winter you're in Calgary and you see 4 black west indians please refrain from singing "Jamaica we have a bobsleigh tema"
05:04 tonsofpcs Cheezmo: did you apply?
05:04 Isopropyl|Radio xD
05:04 Ponko team*
05:04 Cheezmo lol Ponko
05:05 Cheezmo tonsofpcs, I put in 3-4 apps
05:05 tonsofpcs Ponko: can he sing the worl-a-girl version?
05:05 djrock9000 So does anyone know if they caught the scrappers from the video?
05:05 LemPhone bestbuy aren't looking for technical knowledge cheezmo
05:05 Ponko probably not
05:05 Cheezmo apparently they even stood-up people at a hotel interview 3 weeks in a row too
05:05 Cheezmo LemPhone, we just got a new store
05:05 LemPhone and?
05:06 Cheezmo well, they need some sort of grunts
05:06 lwq1996 djrock9000 i dont think so but they got video
05:06 Cheezmo and I'm good at selling shit, but nobody is willing to recognize that
05:06 LemPhone yes, grunts, not technical people
05:06 Cheezmo I do private sales over the internet, in person, and I've vended at Conventions
05:07 LemPhone got those on your resume?
05:07 Cheezmo also managed to sell PS3's to people that really didn't need them at our version of GameSpot
05:07 tonsofpcs Cheezmo: they don't want people who think on their own.
05:07 Cheezmo I know, that's cost me a couple jobs
05:08 djrock9000 I saw the video. Thats good news.
05:08 lwq1996 yup
05:08 djrock9000 I hope they catch them.
05:08 Cheezmo video?
05:08 LemPhone what was the video?
05:08 djrock9000 Sorry was talking with lwq1996
05:08 djrock9000 Video of the scrappers
05:08 Cheezmo good video? o3o
05:08 LemPhone they tried it again?
05:09 LemPhone what'd they go after this time?
05:09 djrock9000 The transformers and the generator
05:09 djrock9000 TGG got it on camera.
05:09 LemPhone with actual equipment or just clambering around it?
05:10 djrock9000 Not completely sure but it looks like they had a bag or something in the video
05:10 tonsofpcs are these items usually locked?
05:11 LemPhone no, they are freestanding outside
05:11 djrock9000 Not sure. I would think so though.
05:11 LemPhone they have any tools dj?
05:11 tonsofpcs LemPhone: so is my generator, I have a key on my keychain....
05:11 LemPhone a key to start it or open the cabinet?
05:11 tonsofpcs open
05:11 tonsofpcs it handles starting on its own
05:11 LemPhone kk
05:12 tonsofpcs (well, the ATS tells it)
05:12 djrock9000 It looked like they had a bag that might have had tools in it. See the captured footage here http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/300618860
05:12 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv
05:12 djrock9000 its about 5 mins long
05:12 LemPhone not atm dj, on my rather crappy phone
05:13 djrock9000 :) Save for later
05:13 Cheezmo Wow, that kid has a really obvious hat
05:13 djrock9000 I think Chris was going to also put the footage in the Captain's Blog as well for the day.
05:13 LemPhone do me a favour, pm that link to Sgt_Lemming please dj
05:13 Cheezmo could spot him at the local middle school any day
05:15 djrock9000 Did the link come through LamPhone ?
05:15 djrock9000 Im kind of new to IRC
05:15 * Ponko goes and watches video
05:15 Ponko djrock9000 you'll catch on :)
05:15 LemPhone sall good, I'll find it when I get home
05:16 djrock9000 I'm using Textual. PM'ing should be as easy as a right click on a username and Private Message (Query) correct?
05:17 LemPhone yeah
05:17 djrock9000 Okay thats what I did. Should work I think. ;)
05:17 LemPhone heh
05:18 Ponko ok wth is that kid doing
05:18 Ponko shouldn't he be in school
05:18 Cheezmo that's what I was thinking Ponko
05:19 Ponko omg that's funny
05:19 Cheezmo stupid kids can't even see the cameras... they go scouting but don't look up
05:19 djrock9000 Yeah it was like 2:30pm lol. Looks like they were watching for people to leave. another video shows two cars leaving TGG and then the two guys show up. Later the guys leave and immediately after one of the cars comes back.
05:20 Ponko wow just wow
05:20 Ponko they cleared that out?
05:21 djrock9000 Way too funny. The cameras that recorded this are huge. I would know this lol because I donated the two on the back wall. :)
05:22 Ponko but c'mon that's just silly i see a camera i smile then leave and do my stupid deeds elsewhere
05:22 djrock9000 Exactly
05:22 djrock9000 lol
05:23 djrock9000 Takes some balls to do what they just did
05:23 tonsofpcs djrock9000: or stupidity!
05:23 Ponko i bet they were like i bet no1 can see us tehe
05:23 egrsteve|away thanks djrock, I got them working saturday
05:23 egrsteve|away 36 hours
05:23 djrock9000 I wonder if they thought they were fake. lol
05:24 djrock9000 Yeah no prob man.
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05:25 djrock9000 Its interesting watching the security cameras from the live stream.
05:25 Ponko djrock9000 you mean the kids?
05:25 tonsofpcs djrock9000: or they didn't think
05:26 Ponko even in a room where there's NO cameras i still go is there a camera in here and just scan for em
05:26 djrock9000 lol
05:27 lwq1996 i got caught chewing when i didnt see camera's anywhere in the room i was in...and it was a bathroom
05:27 lwq1996 so what do you think is going on there
05:27 djrock9000 Really?
05:27 lwq1996 to this day i dont go into public restrooms unless im about to shit or piss myself
05:27 lwq1996 yes really
05:27 tonsofpcs you got caught chewing?  were you really that hungry?
05:28 djrock9000 lol
05:28 tonsofpcs i mean, c'mon man, it's a bathroom, you're not supposed to eat it!
05:28 lwq1996 chewing as in chewing tobacco
05:28 Cheezmo dun dun dun
05:28 djrock9000 I kind of figured lol
05:28 Ponko in the cubicle
05:28 lwq1996 yes in the cubicle
05:28 tonsofpcs lwq1996: you're like 7, you shouldn't be chewing.
05:29 lwq1996 14 almost 15
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05:29 Ponko lol oh dear i'm glad they didn't have cameras in the toilets at my school...........
05:29 tonsofpcs (read: i'm old and trying to make myself feel not as old by calling you younger than you are)
05:29 lwq1996 lol
05:30 tonsofpcs it's not funny! I was starting to bald at your age!
05:30 * lwq1996 rolls on the floor laughing
05:30 astro73|mal BatSteve, SQLite gave me 31 less lines and 100x more understanding.
05:30 * Isopropyl|Radio plays ZZT
05:30 astro73|mal mere mortals can now understand what's going on
05:31 Isopropyl|Radio it's still not coding c++
05:31 lwq1996 lool
05:31 Isopropyl|Radio thats like understanding the secrets to the universe
05:31 Ponko do these mortals astro73|mal Kombat each other?
05:32 astro73|mal QDB! QDB!
05:32 Ponko Quarter Defensive Back?
05:32 BatSteve astro73|mal: woot woot!
05:33 djrock9000 So if anyone were to see someone committing a crime or looking like they were up to no good on the live stream security cameras…What should we do?
05:33 Isopropyl|Radio record and report
05:33 lwq1996 message captain on facebook tell us...and we will make sure it gets handelled
05:33 astro73|mal djrock9000, start recording?
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05:34 Isopropyl|Radio or at the very least prntscrn
05:34 lwq1996 astrobot your bipolar
05:34 astro73|mal Ponko, Quote DB
05:34 astro73|mal lwq1996, no. I keep having to kill it to fix bugs
05:34 lwq1996 oh i see
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05:35 Ponko lol astro73|mal it's what it looked like to me lol
05:36 djrock9000 But TGG has a DVR. how could we notify someone that something is happening as it happens. So someone could notify police if needed. I'm not in Michigan. Just curious how many people keep the stream up 24/7. Could be kind of like live monitoring.
05:37 LemPhone heh, that would be amsuing
05:38 astro73|mal They should put up a sign: "Recorded and streamed to hundreds of viewers. Did you really want to do it?"
05:38 LemPhone "hello GRPD? there is a robbery going on at the geek group"
05:38 egrsteve|away poll? when nothing is happening at the lab roof cam or serurity?
05:38 lwq1996 add captain and other workers on facebook so they can notify people if needed
05:38 LemPhone "and what's your address?"
05:38 djrock9000 Security
05:38 egrsteve|away 902 w lenoard GR, MI
05:38 egrsteve|away ???
05:39 djrock9000 roof cam can get kind of boring.
05:39 egrsteve|away but your in AU
05:39 LemPhone indeed
05:39 egrsteve|away night shift
05:39 LemPhone that would be the amusing bit egrsteve
05:39 egrsteve|away or day shift as it may be
05:39 LemPhone indeed
05:39 Ponko lol Cheezmo what was in the bag you reckon?
05:40 LemPhone mmm, listening to equinoxe atm, such awesome music
05:40 egrsteve|away I would guess some tools and neighbors AC lines
05:40 Cheezmo I was thinking either tools, scraps or a change of clothes for gym class
05:40 LemPhone until
05:40 Ponko lol
05:41 djrock9000 I can take kind of a night shift un-official security watch. I am around my computer between 9pm till about 2/3am CST. Later on the weekends :)
05:41 Ponko but i still look at those twats and think wow you're doing the lookout maybe next time do the look-up
05:41 djrock9000 I have a little extra screen real-estate for a small stream window. :)
05:42 egrsteve|away at least one looked AT the camera
05:42 djrock9000 lol
05:42 Ponko probably didn't know what it was
05:42 Ponko lol
05:42 Cheezmo I think TGG needs the "smile you're on camera" signs around the transformers
05:42 egrsteve|away it looks like a camera
05:43 djrock9000 I still can't believe they did it in broad daylight. That takes some serious balls or a lot of stupidity. LOL
05:43 egrsteve|away in a few days if we don't see them again post there pic on the transformers
05:43 Cheezmo I think prevention is better than prosecution, really
05:43 LemPhone egrsteve, wasn't there old dead cameras there though?
05:43 egrsteve|away there was
05:43 egrsteve|away we mounted 2 shiny new ones
05:43 djrock9000 :)
05:43 Ponko lol stupid idiots
05:43 egrsteve|away very easy to see
05:43 Cheezmo I hope Boden keeps quiet about the footage in the Captain's Blog, maybe the kids watch it
05:44 egrsteve|away I doubt it
05:44 LemPhone better one, post there pic at all the local shopping centres with the caption "who's been a naughty boy?"
05:44 LemPhone their*
05:44 Ponko seriously i don't get why people like this are aloud to live and why people breed these retards
05:44 djrock9000 Nice
05:44 egrsteve|away send it to all the local schools too
05:44 Ponko lol LemPhone that's a good one :P
05:45 djrock9000 How clear is the still shot of the guys face though I wonder?
05:45 djrock9000 If its good they should print a couple and tape them to the transformers and the generator with a note saying "We know who you are!!!" LOL
05:46 lwq1996 djrock9000 usually if you pause a camera to take a pic it turnes out fuzzy, so its better to view a video instead
05:46 djrock9000 I suppose
05:46 egrsteve|away not great but good enough i hope, even without a face a school admin might be able to ID them
05:46 LemPhone or a police office if they are known to them
05:46 egrsteve|away also a possibility
05:47 LemPhone officer*
05:47 BatSteve Let's be honest, the local school administrators can already guess which students it is, within probably about 10 guesses or so
05:47 LemPhone heh
05:47 djrock9000 I am sure these troublemakers probably have plenty of experience with the school office if they are actually kids.
05:47 egrsteve|away I imagine so
05:47 LemPhone all too true
05:48 egrsteve|away they look young
05:48 djrock9000 Yeah they do.
05:48 LemPhone might be dropouts though
05:48 djrock9000 True
05:48 Ponko well when was this taken they could ALSO be suspended for playing hookey
05:48 LemPhone should take them inside and show them the copper stock pile :-P
05:48 djrock9000 lol
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05:48 * Katemonster is happy
05:49 LemPhone mmm?
05:49 astro73|mal happy kate is happy?
05:49 Katemonster happy kate is happy.
05:49 Katemonster happy kate may be making things happen
05:49 LemPhone katemonster = not so monsterish atm?
05:49 Katemonster good things, for good people
05:49 astro73|mal what kind of things?
05:49 Ponko cakes?
05:49 Katemonster oh, no, always monsterish.  just happy-monsterish.
05:49 Katemonster no, not cakes.
05:49 Ponko :(
05:49 Katemonster wristbands.
05:49 LemPhone lol
05:50 Katemonster as a fund raiser
05:50 Katemonster for me
05:50 djrock9000 You would think they would want to steal something of more value like gold. You can get more for gold LOL. They should try the jewelry store LOL.
05:50 LemPhone the ones linked earlier?
05:50 Katemonster and, more to the point, for our local LGBT youth shelter
05:50 Katemonster yep
05:50 LemPhone cool
05:50 astro73|mal that's pretty cool
05:50 Katemonster i've been bugging people for the last hour and a half to share the link on FB
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05:50 LemPhone back in a bit
05:51 lwq1996 hey cprossu :P
05:51 lwq1996 http://www.photoblip.com/pictures/2141/if-you-want-to-be-something-you-gotta-think-like-it.html
05:51 BotSteve Title: If You Want To Be Something, You Gotta Think Like It!
05:53 * Katemonster thinks like a biomechanical cyborg dragon airplane monster
05:54 Katemonster ....
05:54 lwq1996 lol
05:54 Katemonster if only that were a joke.
05:55 djrock9000 Random thought: Chocolate coins with The Geek Group logo in the chocolate… LOL
05:55 astro73|mal Katemonster, I'm not sure if that makes you creepy or awesome.
05:55 Katemonster probably and hopefully both.
05:55 * astro73|mal thinks like an AI
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05:56 * Ponko is considering doing stunt work
05:56 astro73|mal (Sorry for spamming you like this. I just don't get the bugs in #tgg-bots)
05:56 Katemonster you know how awesome it would be to be a carnivorous F-14 transformer?
05:56 Ponko because that channel is designed for bots lol
05:56 astro73|mal Ponko, except the bugs come from the people logged in and their status with nickserv
05:57 astro73|mal Katemonster, spewing fire? pretty damn awesome.
05:57 Ponko lol still lol
05:57 Katemonster you know it!
05:57 lwq1996 astro what type of bugs?
05:58 astro73|mal lwq1996, data handling
05:58 lwq1996 ah
05:58 djrock9000 Does anyone do any Cocoa/Objective-C for OSX or iOS?
05:59 lwq1996 nope
05:59 Katemonster okay
05:59 Katemonster i think i've had a pretty successful evening of raising Bracelet Awareness.
06:00 astro73|mal Bracelet rights?
06:01 Katemonster yes.
06:01 astro73|mal stop bracelet abuse?
06:01 Katemonster the right for bracelets to marry other bracelets of the same handedness
06:01 Ponko got you
06:01 astro73|mal put a halt to bracelet trafficking.
06:01 lwq1996 holy shit...this company made 2.5 to 5million dollars off of 9 people http://www.manta.com/c/mmz6hvy/motion-industries-inc
06:01 Ponko o_O
06:01 Katemonster and for discrimination protection for bracelets that wish to switch handedness
06:02 astro73|mal Katemonster, i feel like there's a campaign in there
06:03 Katemonster probably
06:03 Katemonster somewhere
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06:03 Ponko http://www.manta.com/c/mmz6hvy/motion-industries-inc Katemonster did you see this video?
06:04 Katemonster no
06:04 Ponko http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/300618860 this one sorry
06:04 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv
06:05 Cheezmo http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=200679357754
06:05 Cheezmo :D
06:05 BotSteve Title: Doctor Who 10th Doctor's Sonic Screwdriver - David Tennant - New/Rare! | eBay
06:05 Cheezmo that's my auction o3o
06:05 Katemonster oh, yeah, i saw the screenshots
06:05 Ponko lol stupid right?
06:06 Ponko i'm a prat but not a fucking idiot
06:07 Ponko first off i'd be in school at that time
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06:10 * Ponko is thinking if he never met his ex he never would of got into twilight
06:10 djrock9000 lol
06:11 astro73|mal I'm not touching that one.
06:11 Ponko but i actually loved and still do love my ex
06:11 Ponko that's WHY i got into it
06:12 Ponko because ************ her
06:12 astro73|mal ... are you really going to get emo on us?
06:12 Ponko no lol
06:12 Ponko go over to NSFW
06:13 Sgt_Lemming home now
06:13 astro73|mal i guess it's that time where I leave my bot overnight and hope that GH-105 doesn't strike
06:14 BatSteve time to go
06:14 BatSteve later team
06:16 Ponko anyway
06:20 Sgt_Lemming just had a look at the video
06:20 djrock9000 Stupid kids huh?
06:20 Sgt_Lemming yeah
06:20 Sgt_Lemming doesn't look like they did/got much if anything
06:21 Sgt_Lemming more looks like they were just having a look etc
06:21 djrock9000 Yeah
06:21 Ponko well they should be in school Sgt_Lemming lol
06:21 lwq1996 sgt_lemming where did you get a look at the video?
06:21 Ponko http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/300618860
06:21 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv - The Geek Group - The Geek Group Live!
06:21 Ponko there you go lwq1996
06:21 lwq1996 oh they have it streaming
06:22 Katemonster e
06:22 Ponko no
06:22 lwq1996 oh...its recorded and archived
06:22 Ponko yep lol
06:22 Ponko HAHAHA
06:22 Ponko ROFLMFAO
06:22 djrock9000 The stream is live with the cameras right now though.
06:22 astro73|mal good night folks
06:23 djrock9000 night all
06:23 astro73|mal Have you hugged your neighborhood NickServ?
06:24 Ponko lol astro73|mal such a RANDOM question
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06:24 lwq1996 ok he left a bag ther
06:25 y007ghg7- is thoes some scrappers on the livestream?
06:26 astro73|mal Ponko, not really. I'm going to a lot of trouble to use it's data. It'd be nice if more people registered and identified
06:26 Sgt_Lemming kids that might be scrappers y007ghg7-
06:26 astro73|mal nick protections, grouping nicks, etc
06:27 Sgt_Lemming but either way messing with things they probably shouldn't
06:27 lwq1996 hehe i'll laugh if they come back and get a shot gun blast to the ass
06:27 Ponko lol astro i know but it looked like a random question
06:27 lwq1996 and moose just pulled up as they left
06:28 Ponko doesn't she drive a Kalos
06:28 y007ghg7- im going to lol if they come back and Batman chases them with a baseball bat
06:28 lwq1996 i thought that was her car that drove in when they left?
06:29 Isopropyl|Radio batman won't use a bat, he's use a gun
06:29 Isopropyl|Radio he'll
06:29 egrsteve|away that was moose arriving aat the end
06:30 lwq1996 thats what i though
06:30 lwq1996 thought
06:30 y007ghg7- wait in the live livestream is the light on the transformers IR light or just normal light?
06:31 egrsteve|away normal light
06:31 y007ghg7- k
06:31 egrsteve|away looks like our clock on the dvr is fast
06:32 egrsteve|away about 15 min
06:32 Cprossu wouldn't shock me
06:32 Cprossu granted you have to add like 5 seconds to that time
06:32 egrsteve|away ya
06:32 egrsteve|away 5 sec
06:32 Cprossu what's funny is the seconds is dead on with the delay
06:34 egrsteve|away i need sleep, ttyl
06:34 egrsteve|away night all
06:35 Cprossu night egrsteve|away
06:42 lwq1996 later all...bed awaits
06:44 Sgt_Lemming http://www.sheldoncomics.com/strips/sd111118.png <--- ahhh, canadians :-P
06:44 Ponko lol someones dog ate their CoD Black Ops disc
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07:00 tehdark45 Wow the meth heads have gone full retard
07:04 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Security Footage Of Copper Theives http://youtu.be/BSiqcthmNtACaptain's Blog 11-21-11 BUSTED SCRAPPERS and Cradle Breakdown http://youtu.be/I05gu5ZKoGs
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07:06 astro73-bot In the last hour, there have been 2 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Security Footage Of Copper Theives http://youtu.be/BSiqcthmNtACaptain's Blog 11-21-11 BUSTED SCRAPPERS and Cradle Breakdown http://youtu.be/I05gu5ZKoGs
07:06 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 11-21-11 BUSTED SCRAPPERS and Cradle Breakdown - YouTube
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09:04 Isopropyl|Radio anyone on?
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10:52 Av_Nekoroms nice camerawork guys :)
10:53 Av_Nekoroms you should use those cattle fence thingies on those idiots :)
10:55 Av_Nekoroms wrap the wire around the generator :))
10:55 Monkeh|Lap Av_Nekoroms: So did you ever get that Proliant working?
10:55 Av_Nekoroms not yet
10:55 Av_Nekoroms had to sleep eth
10:55 Av_Nekoroms *etc
10:55 Monkeh|Lap I'll repeat my question then
10:55 Monkeh|Lap 2008 or 2008 R2?
10:56 Av_Nekoroms no idea
10:56 Monkeh|Lap You don't know what your own media is?
10:56 Av_Nekoroms i have a cd version and going to try with that
10:57 Av_Nekoroms it just says enterprise edition service pack 2
10:57 Monkeh|Lap Not R2 then.
11:47 * angy fondles Seroster
11:55 * Experimentonomen tickles angy under the nose with a feather :P
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11:58 * angy offers a tea to Experimentonomen
11:58 dbshortwave .cookie BotSteve
11:58 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *om nom nom*
12:06 NeWtoz I'd rather have the bot make fun of people for giving it a cookie
12:21 dbshortwave http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=206880182720818&amp;set=a.177389062336597.43232.177387432336760&amp;type=1&amp;theater
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12:58 killakee note to self : MOVE THE TESLACOIL :P
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13:08 yNos :D
13:23 mashpriborintorg how much are we getting paid for watching the security cams :p
13:26 killakee geek security : we are ALWAYS watching.
13:27 mashpriborintorg any stealer / tagger / dealer / looser will be instantly famous ha ha
13:27 killakee hehe
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13:46 Hackbat Tgg really needs someone watching those cameras as much as possible
13:48 mashpriborintorg however if the guy who is watching is located somewhere in Uzbekistan, he will not be able to do much if something occurs, we should need an instant alert device
13:49 mashpriborintorg first, they need to install a stream display in Omni's doghouse :D
13:53 dbshortwave city bus just went by and set the activity alarm off
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14:07 SparkyProjects You'd be surprised what people in other countries can do, if someone on the other side of the world saw something, they could note the time and let the lab know when they  wake, much easier than scrolling through hours of footage
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14:08 SparkyProjects Strange that normally there would be 1 or 2 watching at this time of day, but today there's 11 :D
14:09 wannabe1987 i have a networks question....
14:09 wannabe1987 if there are two networks of the same name, how do you get your computer to keep them apart?  aka not putting mom anddads pwd with grandmas network?
14:10 killaway^zzZZ hi wanna , sparky aso
14:10 wannabe1987 hi zzzz
14:10 killakee hehe
14:10 SparkyProjects Hi Killa
14:11 * mtearle bops
14:11 wannabe1987 hi mtearle
14:11 killakee got some white pipes today :) and i made a 15 cm toroide :=)
14:11 wannabe1987 but i still need an answer.........
14:11 SparkyProjects Did you get the pm about being able to build a bigger coil ?
14:11 killakee ;) indeed i did.. hense the pipe :D
14:12 killakee its dubble the size
14:12 SparkyProjects Sorry wanna, i'm not that good with networks, i would only guess change the names of the networks :P
14:12 wannabe1987 its not mine.....:P
14:12 yNos so i think i found my next for fun project... http://www.cryptomuseum.com/kits/enigma/index.htm
14:12 BotSteve Title: Enigma-E
14:13 killakee why you want two nett`s wanna?
14:13 killakee ask ynos ;)
14:13 wannabe1987 i don't....
14:13 wannabe1987 ones at moms house, ones at grandmas, and they h ave the same name
14:13 killakee enigma ?`???!!!
14:13 * yNos doesnt know a whole lot about windows authentication mechanisms.
14:13 killakee are you building an enigma enkoder ?
14:13 yNos i want to
14:14 wannabe1987 who does?!
14:14 yNos i wanted to make a mechanical one.. but i think that is a bit beyone me atm..
14:14 killakee oh man its one of my favorit encoding machines
14:14 yNos yup :D
14:14 wannabe1987 i won't be on till later, and i can't get on at night because i can't get my computer to cooperate.  it says its connected, but webpages don't agree
14:15 mashpriborintorg this cypher machine  is more beautifull yNos http://www.tatjavanvark.nl/tvv1/pht10.html
14:15 killakee ynos the mecanical one just forget it i think its insanely hard to duplicate
14:15 BotSteve Title: Tatjana J. van Vark ~ Cryptograph
14:15 mtearle I was thinking about the scrappers and stuff outside more generally
14:15 yNos there are lots of cool looking cypher machines.
14:15 mtearle temporary fence panels like those used for construction ... http://www.hellotrade.com/anping-hejiang-wire-mesh-productionco/temporary-fence.html
14:15 BotSteve Title: Temporary Fence Manufacturer & Wholesale Supplier From China
14:15 killakee yes there is ..
14:16 killakee but the enigma is just enginious..
14:16 mtearle basically, make it an effort to get at the transformers, etc ... and make it hard for them to leg it quickly
14:16 yNos mechanical encoders just look and sound badass..
14:16 mtearle build a better scrapper trap :)
14:16 yNos electronic ones are easy..
14:16 killakee ynos there are still codes that issnt broken yes from ww2
14:16 killakee just a thought
14:16 killakee :)
14:17 yNos se maybe shouldnt be talking about scrapper traps in a logged room ;)
14:17 killakee yet
14:17 killakee i menat
14:17 killakee ARGH
14:17 mashpriborintorg or put a fake transformer full of pressurized shit
14:17 killakee meant
14:17 killakee <mashpriborintorg>: jack in a box?
14:17 yNos mashpriborintorg: i like that one a lot..
14:17 killakee :)
14:18 yNos but i dont want to be in charge of cleanup
14:18 Monkeh I say you just get Chris to camp out with his shotgun and wait for them.
14:18 yNos dave batman and i would likely get tasked with cleanup...
14:19 mtearle yNos, *nod* more just thinking of ways of establishing a perimeter (*cue jack nicholson voice*)
14:19 yNos alrite.. i am not talking about this in a logged room ;)
14:19 SparkyProjects I already said about applying power to the transformers last time the scrappers hit them, not so the transformers were taking current, but so there's some voltage in the panel, we could have watched them dancing this time :D
14:19 Monkeh yNos: To #tgg:scrapperkilling?
14:21 yNos i think its funny we caught a high-on behind the unit.
14:21 mtearle yNos, have you guys looked at zoneminder?
14:23 yNos yes
14:23 yNos i am installing it on a machine when i get there later today
14:23 yNos motion looks to be more clusterable though..
14:24 mtearle excellent :)  (*cue Mr Burns voice*)
14:24 yNos we will have around 96 cameras going at once...
14:25 mashpriborintorg it will require huge DVR ressouces
14:26 mtearle yNos, thanks for the reference, don't think I'd seen motion before
14:26 wannabe1987 http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/hea/2713238437.html  she uses q's for g's....wtf
14:26 BotSteve Title: need a babysitter ? im your qirl (:
14:26 wannabe1987 i wouldn't let her babysit!
14:27 * dbshortwave leans on wannabe1987
14:27 wannabe1987 ...
14:27 dbshortwave comfeh
14:27 wannabe1987 ic
14:27 mashpriborintorg maybe the g letter is broken on her keyboard :p
14:27 dbshortwave ;]
14:28 mashpriborintorg no, there is one g letter
14:29 yNos or engrish is not her primary language.
14:29 mashpriborintorg but she haz expierence so it's all good
14:29 wannabe1987 ....
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14:37 yNos JEFF!
14:37 Cprossu morning all
14:37 yNos ANDREW!
14:38 yNos CPROSSU!
14:38 yNos hows it going?
14:38 Cprossu going good
14:38 Cprossu making a security cam cut in a moment
14:39 yNos cam cut?
14:39 yNos stopping and starting so it creates an archive?
14:41 Cprossu well sorta
14:41 Cprossu http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/300630543
14:41 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv - The Geek Group - The Geek Group Live!
14:41 Cprossu anyone who wants to review that footage for the next 7 days it's up there
14:41 Cprossu along with the scanner audio
14:42 Cprossu stever hasn't left yet when the video starts
14:44 yNos so do we need to make a script that makes a cut every 6 hours?
14:44 Cprossu I'm debating on something
14:45 Cprossu what we need is some sort of image processing
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14:45 SparkyProjects yNos, how would it be to have movement sensors round the building, and either tie them into a database or into the dvr system
14:45 SparkyProjects I'm thinking that any movement would create a timestamp list so you can check the footage of those times.
14:45 SparkyProjects If tied into the dvr system, it could create snippets (timestamps are on footage)
14:45 SparkyProjects also, isn't the timestamp set to the wrong time ?
14:45 SparkyProjects I know it seems minor, but if that footage is used as eveidence, they could say (and prove) they were not there at that time
14:45 yNos what are you thinking?
14:46 Cprossu take interesting video + upload to youtube
14:46 yNos SparkyProjects: take a look at the application Motion and ZoneMinder
14:48 yNos i will be setting those up today on a test system.
14:48 yNos i need to see how scalable ZM is, and how flexible Motion is
14:49 yNos ZM looks to do everything and then some, but isnt as scalable.. Motion does some of what we want to do, but is uber scalable.
14:49 yNos add more PCs and video in cards to the cluster.
14:49 yNos horizontal scaling is nice.
14:50 SparkyProjects In my last job the security was set up so movement captured a few seconds before, and ran for a few seconds after.
14:50 SparkyProjects It would also pop the snippet up on screen as a loop
14:50 yNos round robin buffers are one thing we want it to have...
14:51 yNos bow sensitive to motion was it? would a leaf blowing across the screen trigger it?
14:51 SparkyProjects We called it 'pre and post'
14:52 Monkeh yNos: If it was close enough, probably.
14:54 yNos would be nice if we could set it to measure a percentage of change before it starts writing...
14:54 SparkyProjects Get good sensors, you can set sensitivity, or there's an 'in video' detection thing, when you set this up you get a grid you can set each square to high, med, low, or off, and it can be set for a certain amount of movement.
14:54 SparkyProjects Like it would need to see continuous movemtn for a couple of secs before triggering.
14:54 SparkyProjects Our site had som '2 hit' sensors, it needed to distinct movements in a set time to trigger.
14:54 Cprossu KITTEH! ON OUR TRANSFORMER? (towards the end) Part 3, 1:23:20-1:29:40 on video... don't think it's stealing copper though http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/300642535
14:54 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv - The Geek Group - The Geek Group Live!
14:55 yNos SparkyProjects: who is saying this? it doesnt seem to be in your voice...
14:55 Cprossu rofl the kitteh is leaving the way he came back now
14:56 Cprossu dissapears at 1:31:40
14:56 Cprossu 1:23:20-1:31:40 part 3, cat!
14:56 SparkyProjects yNos?
14:56 yNos yes
14:57 SparkyProjects Wat do you mean ?
14:57 SparkyProjects (2:56:49 PM) yNos: SparkyProjects: who is saying this? it doesnt seem to be in your voice...
14:57 yNos Cprossu: do i need to pick up some lye and tunafish to take care of the stray problem?
14:57 Cprossu nah it was a cool cat
14:57 Cprossu was interesting in high voltage
14:58 Cprossu *interested
14:58 Cprossu not typing correctly when I am pushing through camera footage and not watching what I am typing, luckily there's an ad on now
14:59 SparkyProjects yNos ^
15:00 yNos SparkyProjects: the msgs are coming in rapid fire like you are copying from someone else, the phrasing of the messages doesnt fit what i have read from you before.. everyone is a little different all the time, the phrasing here seems a bit different than normal.
15:00 yNos maybe you are excited?
15:01 Cprossu it's disconcerting watching leaves blow by and change positions on the asphalt
15:01 Monkeh yNos: It's probably more to do with his flaky connection.
15:01 yNos ahh
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15:02 SparkyProjects It's all me, i used to work closely with the security guys, in fact i helped with the design and revamp of the security cabin, and was the one permitted to take footage from the system to use as evidence
15:04 SparkyProjects yNos ^
15:04 yNos cool
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15:08 yNos a friend just stole the css from this site..
15:08 yNos http://css-tricks.com/examples/OnePageResume/
15:08 BotSteve Title: One Page Resume
15:08 yNos Fun with C'thulhu
15:08 SparkyProjects yNos, i worked on a 2000 acre site, the main part of the site with the main buldings was 200 acres, the rest was farms.
15:08 SparkyProjects It was a research site, and needed high security, not just because of what it was, but they had 2 rooms with radioactive stuff that needed to be protected from terrorists
15:08 Cprossu ok I didn't see anything other than the kitteh @ yNos skipping through this footage from last night
15:08 yNos ahh
15:09 Cprossu although
15:09 Cprossu it is disconcerting
15:09 yNos looks like i messed out on a meal then ;)
15:09 Cprossu that camera 5 had blips
15:09 Cprossu during the night
15:09 yNos 5 blips?
15:09 Cprossu let me go over the footage
15:10 Cprossu I just didn't know what was there before it got light out
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15:10 yNos the lighting is washed out by the transformers..
15:10 yNos i se a green xfrmr and i want to paint it black..
15:11 yNos no color in between, i want to paint it black
15:11 Cprossu well technically it's a generator
15:11 Cprossu xD
15:11 yNos the genny isnt a problem..
15:11 Cprossu it's green though
15:11 yNos the xfrmrs reflect too much light and piss off the auto-iris
15:11 Cprossu I don't think that's the issue
15:11 yNos the transformers are grey/green, right?
15:12 yNos i am not good with colors :\
15:12 Cprossu welll puke grey would qualify as green?
15:12 Cprossu I suppose?
15:12 Cprossu let me see what I Can do about your washed out xfrmers
15:14 Cprossu nope
15:14 Cprossu worth a shot though
15:14 yNos hmm.
15:14 Cprossu egrsteve|away has the tbc cranked way up too
15:14 Cprossu so it might not be the iris
15:15 yNos tbc?
15:15 Cprossu time base corrector
15:15 Cprossu he can modify the video signal from it
15:16 * angy fondles all over Seroster
15:17 angy .beer yNos
15:17 angy =)
15:20 Sgt_Lemming .cake BotSteve
15:20 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *Looks at cake with a crazed look in his eyes*
15:21 Sgt_Lemming bleh, sleep time
15:21 Sgt_Lemming later all
15:28 Cprossu .tfw 85021
15:28 BotSteve 52°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
15:28 Cprossu holy crap it's cold
15:33 sndwrx mornin' all.
15:43 Cprossu I wonder if our scrappers keep to a schedule
15:43 sndwrx More stuff come up missing?
15:43 Cprossu or have a union
15:44 Cprossu no but you heard about yesterday right?
15:44 sndwrx No, what happened?
15:44 Cprossu should be in the captains blog
15:44 sndwrx Most of the time I don't have time to watch it.
15:44 Cprossu I haven't watched it yet either
15:44 sndwrx I've only seen like 30 minutes cumulative among several episodes.  :P
15:45 SparkyProjects There are 2 blogs, one is just the 4 minute footage, other is a normal blog plus the footage
15:45 sndwrx ah.
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15:46 sndwrx mornin' Guardianzozo
15:46 Guardianzozo yo
15:46 Guardianzozo hows it going?
15:47 Cprossu so keep your eyes peeled at ~2:25
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15:50 sndwrx Cprossu: around 2:25PM today?  You mean that's the estimated release of the most recent blog entry?
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15:52 Cprossu no sndwrx
15:53 Cprossu that's the next anticipated scrapper attack
15:53 Cprossu if they keep a schedule and have a union anyway
15:53 MoxieMike__ they were bold doing that in the daylight
15:53 sndwrx oh.
15:53 Cprossu no, just dumb.
15:53 MoxieMike__ that too
15:53 sndwrx I sincerely hope you're kidding about the union remarks.
15:54 sndwrx Otherwise you obviously know nothing about scrappers.  At least those around here.  :P
15:54 Cprossu no, of course I'm not, thiefs need unions too!
15:54 MoxieMike__ why is the clock around 16min fast?
15:55 Cprossu because the RTC either sucks or was set wrong
15:55 MoxieMike__ ok
15:55 Cprossu and with egrsteve|away... my bet is on the former
15:55 sndwrx Granted, more people are becoming desperate for any source of income right now.  But, before I moved out of town, 99% of scrappers in the greater Grand Rapids area had at best a sixth grade education, roughly as many teeth, and drove giant jalopy trucks with home-made box siding.
15:56 Cprossu I don't know if our scrappers had a truck
15:56 sndwrx They were certainly nowhere near organized enough to be unionized.
15:56 Cprossu it would be funny though right?
15:57 sndwrx Unions disgust me, honestly.
15:57 BotSteve BatSteve: , remind BatSteve that he needs to facebook the thing
15:57 Cprossu nah big corps disgust me
15:57 Cprossu unions only a bit less
15:57 sndwrx There's no fucking reason someone needs to be paid $24/hr to push a broom.
15:57 Cprossu yes there is sndwrx
15:57 Cprossu they need to eat too.
15:57 Cprossu inflation's a bitch.
15:57 sndwrx ...
15:58 sndwrx Well I don't know what kind of income you live on, but people can, and do, live on substantially less than $24/hr.
15:58 Cprossu though I'd like to actually see you pull up one real instance of a 'broom pusher' making $24/hr
15:58 Cprossu I think you pulled that out of your ass
15:59 sndwrx I may have exaggerated that a bit, though it isn't uncommon for them to be paid $16-$18 or more in many factory settings.
15:59 sndwrx Which is ludicrous.
15:59 Cprossu give me examples
15:59 Cprossu otherwise you're no better than glen beck.
15:59 sndwrx Why the hell do you think Ford and GM are in so much trouble?
15:59 MoxieMike__ pensions
15:59 sndwrx I have no idea who Glen Beck is, honestly.  I don't follow politics or any of that nonsense.
16:00 Cprossu sndwrx because they moved their ops to mexico and canada
16:00 sndwrx Furthermore, I know people that work at a local tool and die shop that make such indicated wages.
16:00 sndwrx At any rate, I sense I may have struck a nerve.
16:01 Cprossu yes. I know too many people who make shit. as in minimum wage.
16:01 Cprossu and they do a lot more than push brooms or buttons
16:01 Cprossu used up, thrown away
16:01 Cprossu no benefits
16:01 sndwrx And it's not a subject that's up for debate with me:  Our country is rapidly becoming a shit hole, and that's because of our own greed and narcissism.
16:02 Cprossu people should be able to on one job, be able to provide for their family.
16:03 Cprossu as it stands you can have two people in a household take 2 jobs, thus leaving no one home to deal with the kid, and still be barely making it
16:03 sndwrx I'm well familiar with that.
16:03 sndwrx In many instances the expense of daycare more than negates a second income.
16:03 Cprossu yeah and negates the kid too
16:03 sndwrx So in essence some families are better off, financially, with only one income.
16:04 sndwrx A child in daycare is negated?
16:05 SparkyProjects http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-15817316
16:05 BotSteve Title: BBC News - Bionic contact lens 'to project emails before eyes'
16:08 Cprossu yes sndwrx.
16:08 Cprossu as in not abused, but not the best situation
16:09 Cprossu (sometimes abused though)
16:09 sndwrx How so?
16:09 sndwrx I mean, I agree that some people willingly don't spend enough time with their children.  i.e. dumping them off at daycare or in-laws etc, too frequently for no real reason.
16:09 Cprossu 'put in an environment of other kids without any activities is how i'd put it'
16:09 sndwrx Without any activities?
16:09 sndwrx That's not daycare.
16:09 SparkyProjects A child is better to be brought up by their parents, not a stranger.
16:10 sndwrx That's a shitty baby sitter.
16:10 Cprossu sndwrx you don't know what cesspools our daycares our
16:10 sndwrx Obviously I don't in Arizona.
16:10 Cprossu *are
16:10 Cprossu nope
16:10 Cprossu they suck over here
16:10 sndwrx But I'm well familiar with some of them in Florida and Michigan.
16:10 Cprossu often the daycare personel aren't background checked, often they don't make any more than minimum wage.
16:10 Cprossu ^ at least here
16:11 sndwrx That's the fault of the daycare provider and the parents that support them by continuing to use their facilities, then.
16:11 Cprossu to put it bluntly, they've only in the last year started cracking down on daycare personel who were registered sex offenders.
16:11 sndwrx Well, that's pretty ridiculous.
16:12 Cprossu you're telling me.
16:12 Cprossu but yeah, a kid who spends most of his 'family time' in daycare ain't gonna turn out right here =P
16:12 sndwrx And honestly it doesn't really surprise me.  Our society of entitlement dictates that people don't have to do their jobs fully, or even remotely well at all.
16:12 sndwrx And it's increasingly becoming worse.
16:13 Cprossu but at the same time the wages they earn don't inspire them to do their job well
16:13 Cprossu there's a balance here that needs to be reached
16:13 sndwrx I agree.
16:13 sndwrx However.
16:13 sndwrx You're paid.
16:13 sndwrx Fucking do your God damned job the best you can.
16:13 sndwrx You agreed to the wages you're paid.
16:13 sndwrx If you don't like, get another job.
16:13 Cprossu if you can't survive one hospital visit unscathed, and you are $15K in the hole from the visit you aint paid.
16:14 Cprossu my health insurance costs me $200 a fucking month now
16:14 sndwrx Sounds about right.  I think it's dumb, but it sounds about right.
16:14 sndwrx I haven't ever had health insurance.
16:14 Cprossu and I still am responsible for more than 10 days in a hospital
16:15 sndwrx And aside from an incident a couple years ago when I thought I'd broken my foot, I haven't been to a doctor in 15 years.
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16:15 Cprossu so 40 hour work week on minimum wage, health insurance JUST FOR ME, with taxes is over 1/3 of that
16:16 * sndwrx nods.
16:16 SparkyProjects That's why i like the UK, don't need health insurance :P
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16:16 sndwrx Cprossu: That's for those fortunate enough to have 40-hour work weeks.
16:16 Cprossu sndwrx: exactly.
16:17 Cprossu shit's broken and greed is the answer.
16:17 Cprossu the american dollar needs to be made worth more than it is, and those abusing the system need to be punished.
16:17 sndwrx ha.
16:17 sndwrx We're a long way off from that course now, brother.
16:18 Cprossu no kidding.
16:18 sndwrx Anyway what am I missing here in trying to silence GRUB?
16:18 Cprossu but push the working man too hard and you have the french revolution... and head cuttings!
16:18 sndwrx enabling quiet isn't making the boot process as quiet as I'd like.
16:18 Cprossu hrmmm
16:18 Cprossu on that note I like a 'noisy' boot
16:18 Cprossu so I'm not the person to ask
16:18 sndwrx I do too.
16:18 sndwrx But I'm building kiosks.
16:19 Cprossu well here's what you _could_ do
16:19 sndwrx So I just want it *on*, for the most part.
16:19 killawaywinding <sndwrx> watercooling ;)
16:19 sndwrx killawaywinding: Smart alec.  :P
16:19 SparkyProjects Stream died (well the security feed anyway)
16:19 Cprossu turn the screen on only after the software is running
16:19 sndwrx That's a good idea.
16:19 Cprossu looking into it
16:19 sndwrx No idea how I'd go about doing it, though.
16:20 Cprossu relays!
16:20 sndwrx Well, sure.
16:20 sndwrx I could have the box kick something out across serial.
16:20 Cprossu tgg lost internet (we hope)
16:20 sndwrx The scrappers are getting wise.
16:20 Cprossu hahahaha
16:20 sndwrx Mission Impossible stylee.
16:21 Cprossu dun dun dun duuuuun duuuuuun dun dun dun dun...
16:23 sndwrx Okay.
16:23 sndwrx So far I have GRUB locked down to prevent editing or alternative kernel booting.
16:24 sndwrx Specific user accounts boot straight into a dead IceWM session with secured kiosk mode Firefox.
16:24 sndwrx oh.
16:25 sndwrx I have to prevent session selection from the GDM login screen.
16:32 mashpriborintorg the scrappers evidence video has been released on the main yt channel
16:37 Cprossu indeed
16:38 MoxieMike__ good
16:39 sndwrx Sweet.  I got two seats working.
16:39 sndwrx Now I just need a PCI video card and I'll bet I can get four seats going.
16:41 Cprossu nooooooooooooooooooooo
16:41 Cprossu the DVR shat bricks
16:41 mashpriborintorg Cprossu the stream in up again but it seems he's on meth
16:41 Cprossu ^ see above
16:42 Cprossu let's double check that it's not saturn
16:42 sndwrx Oh that's an easy fix.
16:42 Cprossu I can verify it _WAS_ a power outage
16:42 sndwrx Just take the cartridge out, blow on the board connector and plug it back in.
16:42 SparkyProjects Pretty patterns :P
16:43 sndwrx Yeah my Adventure Island cartridge did that all the time.
16:43 * sndwrx chuckles.
16:43 mashpriborintorg don't watch it, it may be an attempt to hijack our brains :p
16:43 SparkyProjects Cprossu, the security froze just before it dropped, but then that may have been cache
16:43 sndwrx Alright, who put Denis Leary's "How to Control Your Brain" on the stream?
16:44 Cprossu sndwrx: sorry?
16:45 sndwrx ...
16:45 Cprossu the jupiter control network didn't come back up
16:46 Cprossu so there's nothing I can do
16:46 Monkeh Cprossu: Power failure?
16:46 Cprossu yep hence why I said [09:42] <Cprossu> I can verify it _WAS_ a power outage
16:46 sndwrx It doesn't fire up when A/C is restored?
16:46 Monkeh Cprossu: Didn't see that :P
16:46 Cprossu sndwrx I must not have set it up to
16:46 Monkeh Cprossu: Gogo gadget UPS
16:47 Cprossu UPS wouldn't have lasted that long
16:47 sndwrx Bummer.  Time to get a relay on the power switch and pull it through the network.
16:47 Monkeh Cprossu: Depends on the UPS.. ;)
16:47 Cprossu BIG one we'd need
16:47 Cprossu ~ 12 deep cycles'd cover it for 1/2 a day though
16:48 * SparkyProjects wonders if a local datacentre is upgrading their UPS and throwing out their old one :D
16:48 Monkeh Cprossu: Should make a project out of making a large battery backup system from scratch
16:49 SparkyProjects The old forklift batteries may be a good starting point Monkeh :)
16:49 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Yep.
16:49 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Get a few of those from places which are disposing of them and you're set.
16:50 Cprossu all right Monkeh and SparkyProjects, you're the team lead and funding source for this project... and engineer... and maintenance too! GO!
16:50 Monkeh SparkyProjects: They might suck for high-current stuff, but get a few of them together and..
16:50 Monkeh Cprossu: heh. I could do the work, but I'm across the pond and broke. :P
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16:50 SparkyProjects Disposal often means they are no longer any good, though sometimes they change all the batteries when just one is failed
16:50 Cprossu I'm broke too and 1950 miles away =P
16:50 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Or it could be one or two bad cells.
16:50 SparkyProjects yep
16:50 Cprossu the rest of my disposible income went into the stream computers
16:51 Cprossu (And mooses computer)
16:51 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Some places will refurb them at that point, others just dump them. There's usually quite a lot of usable material left from such big batteries.
16:53 SparkyProjects We had a couple of milkfloats for transport around site, last time those were changed they changed both sets when only one set was giving trouble, it's to do with how they charge and discharge
16:55 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve the DVR hates power being pulled from it and doesn't start back up nicely at all afterwards
16:55 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
16:55 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Of course, another factor is the expense of getting such large batteries in and installing them. Often makes sense to just do it all in one go.
16:55 Monkeh SparkyProjects: In a small forklift they weigh what, a tonne and change?
16:56 SparkyProjects Installation was ok, just use a forklift, we had several on site
16:56 Cprossu well 1.
16:56 Cprossu heh
16:58 Guardianzozo zozoceles
16:58 Guardianzozo grrr
16:58 Monkeh Cprossu: Forklift discussion reminds me, wasn't there going to be video of the forklift training course?
16:59 Cprossu not my dept Monkeh
16:59 Monkeh Figured you'd know, nobody else is around :P
17:00 Monkeh I'm curious to see what they teach over there.
17:00 Cprossu Jupiter network came back up
17:00 Cprossu YAY
17:00 Seroster Arr
17:00 mashpriborintorg the video crew is almost never on IRC... I'm still waiting for the parts 4,5,6 of the forklift autopsy :p
17:00 Monkeh mashpriborintorg: That too, although I have a fair idea what goes into a forklift ;)
17:00 Seroster But they SHOULD be!
17:00 Cprossu still not completely booted it seems
17:00 Monkeh mashpriborintorg: The electrical side is interesting, but mechanically..
17:01 mashpriborintorg the hydraulics and motors nned to be seem
17:01 Seroster Aye
17:01 mashpriborintorg *seen
17:01 Monkeh mashpriborintorg: Seen lots of hydraulics. I drive 'em. ;)
17:01 Seroster And monkeh, the mechanically stuff is even MORE interesting than the wiring
17:01 angy the return of the Seroster
17:01 Monkeh Seroster: Yeah, but I'm familiar with all that from the diesel ones I'm used to.
17:01 Seroster ...Yes
17:02 Monkeh Just saying it's the electrical bits I want to see
17:02 Seroster But for the other 99.5% of geek group members...=P
17:02 Monkeh Seroster: True. Real man work does not go with the average geek. ;)
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17:03 Seroster Lol
17:03 mashpriborintorg I did never take apart a forklift, so I really want to see the stuff
17:04 Monkeh Must say I found their efforts to remove that counterweight.. amusingly dangerous.
17:04 Seroster Ive taken apart a million TVs, but I still would love a tv autopsy
17:04 mashpriborintorg check the teardowns videos onto mikeselectricstuff youtube channel, there are some interesting things
17:04 Seroster What is the counterweight?
17:05 Seroster I will, mashpriborintorg =)
17:05 Monkeh Seroster: The gigantic chunk of iron which is the arse of a counterbalance forklift.
17:05 Cprossu switching to weathercam I hope
17:05 Monkeh Seroster: http://www.forklifttruckinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/forklift-parts.jpg
17:05 Seroster Nice videos
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17:05 Cprossu hrmmm this isn't good
17:05 Seroster And a decent voice
17:05 Cprossu shit
17:06 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos: Copper Theft http://youtu.be/csQJa7kHJrA
17:06 Seroster lol =)=
17:06 mashpriborintorg it was blocked by the rear wheel when they tried to remove it at first, i wonder how they figured it out
17:06 Seroster Crap
17:06 Seroster Btw
17:06 mashpriborintorg you're late, BotSteve
17:06 Cprossu battery backup was enough to keep stream pc online
17:06 Monkeh Cprossu: In a battle of forklift vs tank, the forklift will win with that thing.
17:06 Cprossu hrmmm
17:06 Monkeh Er, that's a bad typo
17:06 Monkeh Seroster: ^
17:06 Seroster Ive heard that there is a third channel that isnt just the unofficial blog, but the REALLY unofficial stuff...
17:07 Cprossu we've got issues it seems
17:07 Cprossu pulling stream down
17:07 Seroster Cprossu, Are you at the lab?
17:07 Cprossu no
17:07 Cprossu remoted in
17:07 Seroster Righto
17:08 mashpriborintorg uh oh, we have to find it Seroster
17:08 Seroster mashpriborintorg, I THINK he mentioned it in a captains blog, or my mind is even worse off than I thought
17:09 mashpriborintorg well, we just need to watch again all the captains blogs :p
17:09 Monkeh Seroster: I thought he mentioned the possibility of it.
17:09 Monkeh Seroster: Due to the cleaning up of the main blog
17:09 sndwrx Wow that kid is pretty brazen.
17:10 Seroster mashpriborintorg, he didnt mention by name
17:10 Seroster I think it is on a need to know basis,
17:10 Monkeh Well WE NEED TO KNOW!
17:10 mashpriborintorg just found a chris boden yt channel but it's old
17:11 Seroster That channels name is never to be uttered in here.
17:12 Cprossu why not?
17:12 Cprossu xD
17:12 dbshortwave yt?
17:12 dbshortwave youtube?
17:12 Seroster Cprossu, Because he wants it unofficial, and hence we should refrain from outing it in the official room.
17:12 Seroster Rather, keep it to the unofficial room(s)
17:13 Cprossu =P
17:15 Cprossu crap I think the jupiter control pc just shat itself
17:15 Cprossu again
17:16 Cprossu yay back up
17:17 Cprossu well before we went down and back up again I managed to remove seizure screen at least and verify the function of our master control system
17:18 Cprossu and I haden't thought of it
17:18 Cprossu but perhaps our 20-ten isn't plugged into the ups
17:18 dbshortwave lol chris does remind me of willy wonka of the geeks
17:18 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve is the 20-ten on the UPS???
17:18 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
17:19 sndwrx Too bad that security footage isn't higher resolution.
17:19 Cprossu yeah our dvr sucks.
17:19 sndwrx Who drives the Aveo that pulled in as they were walking away?
17:19 Cprossu moose.
17:19 sndwrx Got it.
17:20 sndwrx Was it her approaching vehicle that chased them away or was the timing just right?
17:20 Cprossu probably the former
17:20 * sndwrx nods.
17:20 sndwrx Well, now I want to hide out behind the genny with a ball peen hammer.
17:20 Cprossu sndwrx: better yet IN the genny
17:21 sndwrx That was pretty brazen of them to spend so much time fiddling around in the middle of the day.
17:21 Cprossu pops pannel off... SURPRISE!!!!!!!!!!!
17:21 sndwrx haha SUPPLIES!!! like in Weird Al's UHF.
17:21 Cprossu .yt spatula city uhf
17:21 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XbCWmY0eqY
17:23 Cprossu you know I might have to watch UHF again to identify the switching equipment
17:24 Cprossu DAMN YOU EGRSTEVE!
17:27 dbshortwave dead cam?
17:28 Cprossu if I ever get back in I'll change it
17:28 dbshortwave ah
17:28 Cprossu it's better than seizurecam
17:28 dbshortwave lol this is true
17:28 dbshortwave call that one derp cam
17:29 SparkyProjects Which cam is that ?
17:29 SparkyProjects And can't steve change it ?
17:30 Cprossu steve can't help you now
17:30 Cprossu and it's hvl I think
17:30 SparkyProjects Ah yeah, i can see the light at the end of the curtain
17:31 Cprossu I was trying to figure out why my feeds from the 20-ten were scrambled blue and red seizure grids
17:31 Cprossu and the last switch I made before we lost power again temporarily
17:31 Cprossu was that one
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17:32 SparkyProjects So you're noat able to switch ?
17:32 Cprossu as stated 3x now.
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17:33 Cprossu sometime in the next 20 minutes I should be able to get in again
17:34 Seroster Any progress on the thieving scum?
17:34 Cprossu not other than the bastards are on youtube now
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17:35 Seroster News?
17:35 Seroster Papers?
17:35 Seroster Any new cleared up stills?
17:35 Cprossu nope
17:35 Seroster What resolution is the original in?
17:36 Cprossu I have no clue what the security dvr records in
17:36 Seroster I.E. can you work on the YT file or should you get the raw?
17:37 SparkyProjects Would be better to get a still from the DVR, i think most have a 'screenshot' option
17:37 Cprossu the youtube copy is less resolution than the file he uploaded
17:39 Cprossu I can try hang on
17:43 Cprossu SparkyProjects this is all I can do though with the footage I have.. plus our DVR really sucks and doesn't even have ethernet
17:43 Cprossu I didn't get to take it apart and look last time I was there
17:43 Cprossu http://oi41.tinypic.com/2ezmys2.jpg
17:43 Cprossu ^ this is all I can do image processing wise though Seroster and SparkyProjects
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17:44 Seroster That could be anyfuckingone
17:44 Cprossu yes Ifuckingknow
17:44 Seroster That kinda sufuckingcks.
17:45 SparkyProjects If the police know of someone similar, they could probably match it, but you wouldn't pick him from a crowd.
17:45 SparkyProjects Best wait till someone (steve or yNos) can get to the dvr
17:45 Cprossu SparkyProjects: this is the recording I made of the DVR
17:45 Cprossu last night
17:45 Cprossu actually (grin)
17:45 Monkeh These aren't exactly HD cams.
17:45 Cprossu the cams are better than the dvr is
17:46 Cprossu the dvr does not display it well
17:51 Seroster Monkeh, thats because you were a scumbag and didnt donate any HD cameras.
17:51 Seroster Maybe make a bait for the thiefs?  Put something with copper out, have FIVE different HD zoom lens cameras pointed at it and just wait
17:52 Monkeh Seroster: I don't have any to donate!
17:52 Seroster Shoul have gotten a few
17:52 Monkeh Seroster: I don't have money for one, let alone a few :{
17:53 angy .cookie Seroster
17:53 BotSteve Here you go, Seroster, I baked you a chocolate chip cookie!
17:54 angy .liver angy
17:54 angy =)
17:55 dbshortwave .pie angy
17:55 BotSteve Here you go, angy, I made you a coconut pie!
17:55 Cprossu .pid
17:55 dbshortwave in the face
17:55 Cprossu .pie
17:55 dbshortwave lol
17:55 BotSteve Here you go, Cprossu, I made you a blueberry pie!
17:55 angy my last pid is 24777
17:55 angy =)
17:57 dbshortwave rofl
17:57 dbshortwave hey
17:58 Cprossu nope still can't get in (sad face)
17:58 dbshortwave place a fake generator out there set it up with a mechanical fist a camera... when they open the door the fist comes out and socks em in the sack ...
17:59 dbshortwave ive got an air cylinder
18:01 SparkyProjects We have lights (hvl) :)
18:02 dbshortwave yup
18:02 SparkyProjects And dark again
18:03 Experimentonomen *yawn*
18:04 dbshortwave WAKE UP!!!
18:07 Experimentonomen *yawn*
18:07 * Experimentonomen is tired
18:09 Cprossu noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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18:09 * Cprossu yawns *
18:09 angy .cookie Experimentonomen
18:09 BotSteve Here you go, Experimentonomen, I baked you a chocolate-covered cherry cookie!
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18:14 * Experimentonomen looks at his halfway cleanup project that havent moved anywhere in over a week and feels like going to bed
18:21 * angy offers a blanket and a pillow to Experimentonomen
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18:24 tlockley Afternoon
18:24 angy more evening here
18:24 angy but afternoon to you tlockley
18:24 tlockley You in France?
18:24 angy currently, yeah
18:25 tlockley Heh
18:26 angy =)
18:27 angy I would like to be back in the US, but not possible (yet)
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18:30 tlockley Why not.
18:31 tlockley ?
18:31 angy time/job are the two constraint I got
18:33 tlockley Ah. What are you doing now? If you don't mind my asking
18:33 angy there is at least one person wanting for me in the US, that I did not had time to go see, even though I'm saying to years to see them
18:33 angy trying to negotiate a phd
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19:36 killakee hi tesla4d
19:36 tesla4d AAAAAAARGH
19:36 killakee what?
19:36 tesla4d I mean, "hi"
19:36 killakee hehe
19:36 tesla4d My computer is being a real bastard.
19:36 killakee ah i know how that is ..
19:37 killakee mine dont like it when i use my coil all that mutch :P
19:37 killakee dont know why XD
19:40 astro73|mal good afternon, geeks and geekettes!
19:45 tesla4d Hello.
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19:50 astro73|mal hello
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19:52 astro73|mal .fortune
19:52 BotSteve Can't open /usr/share/games/fortunes/fortunes.dat.
19:52 astro73|mal BotSteve, tell BatSteve to fix fortune
19:52 BotSteve astro73|mal: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
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19:57 astro73|mal hey kate
19:58 astro73-bot joined #thegeekgroup
19:59 astro73|mal I guess i'm the only one...
20:02 Katemonster no, sorry, i'm here
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20:02 Katemonster what's up?
20:02 astro73|mal nothing
20:03 astro73|mal trying to make sure that the nicktracker code really works. As it turns out, there's a lot of combinations to consider
20:03 Superphosphate_ hi
20:03 Superphosphate_ no
20:03 Superphosphate_ sorry, I have lag
20:03 astro73|mal Superphosphate_, hello
20:03 astro73|mal that's some pretty bad lag
20:03 * Katemonster kicks superphosphate in the shin
20:05 Superphosphate_ I was dumping in a PM
20:05 astro73|mal ah.
20:05 Superphosphate_ 52 lines :$
20:05 astro73|mal that'll clog up an IRC connection
20:06 Superphosphate_ Ops sorry
20:06 Superphosphate_ well its over now
20:08 astro73|mal Hmmm. I don't suppose anyone has web space for a QuoteDB?
20:11 mashpriborintorg hey http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/186957/14/Copper-thieves-caught-on-camera chris has been working hard this morning
20:11 BotSteve Title: Copper thieves caught on camera | wzzm13.com
20:11 astro73|mal wow. yeah.
20:13 mashpriborintorg they wanted copper, they will have steel... the steel of their bed in jail.
20:13 astro73|mal even if chris has to hide a radio beacon in there
20:19 Superphosphate_ well done geekgroup!
20:19 sndwrx Wouldn't be hard to install an alarm of some sort.
20:19 Superphosphate_ or cctv
20:19 sndwrx I'll have to check my jiggy stash, I may even have proximity sensors left in my inventory.
20:19 sndwrx Superphosphate_: They have security cameras in place already.
20:20 astro73|mal how about a nice quiet alarm that just dial's chris's phone?
20:20 Superphosphate_ ok
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20:21 sndwrx If somone can build an SMS messenger or phone dialer with an Arduino or something, then I can probably supply an alarm to trigger it.
20:22 SparkyProjects You can buy a device that just needs a sim card and a trigger, it's used in alarms, including car alarms
20:22 astro73|mal old cell phone, program a speed dial, hack in a huge battery, and connect a door switch to the speed dial button?
20:22 sndwrx SparkyProjects:  Right, I'm familiar with them.  I just don't have the equipment available except an alarm system.
20:23 sndwrx astro73|mal: That's a good idea.
20:23 Superphosphate_ Are the thieves  targeting your building?
20:23 sndwrx They're hitting TGG on a regular basis.
20:24 SparkyProjects O.O they even do camera senders
20:24 SparkyProjects http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/sms-alarm-sender.html
20:24 BotSteve Title: Sms Alarm Sender-Sms Alarm Sender Manufacturers, Suppliers and Exporters on Alibaba.com
20:25 sndwrx Well like I said, it's likely that I have an alarm system and proximity sensors to offer.
20:25 SparkyProjects http://www.quicksafe.co.uk/gsm-alarms.htm?gclid=CPvRrMuJy6wCFc8Z4QodNwG0pQ
20:25 BotSteve Title: GSM Alarms, Security Monitoring by Mobile Phone, Text & SMS Message systems
20:25 sndwrx If someone wants a silent alarm we'll have to come up with additional equipment, regardless what kind of equipment, to do dialing and/or messaging.
20:25 Guardianzozo anyone here have experence with VMs?
20:25 sndwrx What'cha got, Guardianzozo ?
20:26 Cheezmo what kinda VM is this?
20:26 Guardianzozo just wondering how easy it is to set up one
20:26 Cheezmo Virtual Machine?
20:26 astro73|mal sndwrx, i told you. Old phone. If you need an actual dialer, would a launchpad be enough
20:26 SparkyProjects This one for $200 would be worth the cost http://www.quicksafe.co.uk/gsm-dialler.htm
20:26 Guardianzozo yup
20:26 astro73|mal Guardianzozo, it depends on the software you're using
20:26 BotSteve Title: GD04 Universal GSM Dialler and communicator dialer with m2m communicating telemetry
20:27 sndwrx astro73|mal: Right, an old phone with a speed dial configured so we could short the switch contacts would be great.
20:27 Guardianzozo http://library.nagios.com/library/products/nagiosxi/downloads/main
20:27 BotSteve Title: Nagios Library - Nagios XI Main Downloads
20:27 astro73|mal sndwrx, and cut the speaker lines
20:27 Guardianzozo thats the link to the VM i need to get working
20:27 sndwrx astro73|mal: Right, so there's no audible indication that it's doing anything.
20:28 astro73|mal Guardianzozo, in my experience, VMware downloads Just Work.
20:28 sndwrx So, does anyone have an old phone they can donate?
20:28 Guardianzozo ok cool
20:28 Guardianzozo does it matter what VM software i use?
20:29 Guardianzozo right now i was going to try virtualbox
20:29 astro73|mal sndwrx, i do have an old rumor i found for sprint. It's a slider though
20:29 sndwrx And if everyone chips in on a $10 t-mobile prepay, it'll be good for three months.
20:29 astro73|mal Guardianzozo, each machine has it's own format. So if you download the VMware file, you need to use VMware
20:29 sndwrx astro73|mal: Oh, preferably a chintzy candy bar or flip and GSM-based.
20:29 astro73|mal but VMware player is free and available on linux
20:29 Guardianzozo blarg....
20:29 astro73|mal sndwrx, it also doesn't have any accessories
20:29 Guardianzozo running xp currently
20:30 astro73|mal Guardianzozo, it's available on windows, too
20:30 sndwrx astro73|mal: Good point.  We'd need power for it too.
20:30 sndwrx I do believe I still have alarm backup batteries.
20:30 sndwrx 12v, don't know how many Ah.
20:30 Guardianzozo so i should get the VMware one instead of the windows one
20:31 astro73|mal Guardianzozo, never used a microsoft emulator; i'm on linux
20:31 Guardianzozo i tried to switch this system to linux...
20:31 sndwrx Guardianzozo: You're probably better off using the VMware image, because you can use VMWare Player for free on Windows or Linux.
20:31 astro73|mal sndwrx, I might still have a virgin flip phone lying around. But I doubt it's GSM
20:31 Guardianzozo then scripts dont want to run correctly
20:32 astro73|mal there aren't many GSM carriers in the US
20:32 astro73|mal Guardianzozo, ... you mean BAT files?
20:32 Guardianzozo .sh
20:32 sndwrx astro73|mal: I don't know about years ago, but Virgin Mobile has been CDMA through Sprint since at least 2008.
20:32 astro73|mal those should work just fine, assuming they were actually written for the bourne shell and not something else
20:32 sndwrx I kept a couple old Nokia phones until I moved back from FL--I'll have to see if by chance I still have them.
20:34 Guardianzozo i downloaded teamspeak (client) extracted the files and tried to run it and it cannot find the file, the person helping me with it cant even figure it out (cause it worked for in just fine) and hes red hat certified (i dunno if thats like A+ certification where it really means nothing )
20:35 astro73|mal Guardianzozo, that's delightfully vague. Can't help you. Especially if you don't have linux anymore
20:35 astro73|mal teamspeak has always worked for me, though
20:35 Superphosphate_ Im sure you know heaps more than the helper
20:36 Superphosphate_ Its mostly that way :(
20:36 Guardianzozo i do (dual boot) but i might just switch back to ubuntu instead of debian
20:36 astro73|mal Guardianzozo, have you seen the most recent ubuntu?
20:36 Guardianzozo ....
20:37 Guardianzozo unfortuntly
20:37 Guardianzozo beat my head for a few hours just to get gnome 2 working on it again
20:37 astro73|mal I hear mint is a popular choice for those that prefer a more traditional desktop. I'm using Linux Mint Debian Edition
20:38 Guardianzozo i hear mint is good cause it comes with alot of basic things preinstalled
20:38 Guardianzozo flash, java, vlc things like that
20:38 astro73|mal Try it for yourself. It's got a few extra things but it's not too frilly like ubuntu
20:38 Guardianzozo i think i will try mint next
20:38 astro73|mal I don't gauge distros by preinstalled software, since most of them have the software available anyway
20:39 astro73|mal the question is how much you have to download in the first few days
20:39 Guardianzozo i only put debian on here to get used to it cause our RADIUS server is debian
20:39 astro73|mal a lot of debian distros work more or less the same
20:39 sndwrx Ubuntu was nice for a while.
20:39 sndwrx It's far too bloated and distant from its Debian roots to suit me, now.
20:39 Guardianzozo i like 10.04 and 10.10 for ubuntu
20:40 Guardianzozo after 10.10 i hated the desktop manager (i think thats what its called)
20:41 astro73|mal unity?
20:41 Guardianzozo yea
20:41 astro73|mal i tried it. I really did.
20:41 astro73|mal It's too restrictive in customizability and it didn't work well with my flow
20:41 Guardianzozo it started annoying me within 10 mins
20:43 astro73|mal I don't mind the sidebar. The things that annoyed me is that I couldn't customize keystrokes (Super vs Super+Space), I couldn't do jiggly windows (it's a thing), and the mac menu bar doesn't work with focus-on-hover
20:43 Guardianzozo but... what VMware do i need to get?  theres like 30 different versions, do i need to get the VM player?
20:43 Guardianzozo ah! you got wobbly windows also?
20:44 Guardianzozo XD
20:45 astro73|mal Guardianzozo, VMware player is the free one
20:45 astro73|mal I really like my wobbly windows.
20:45 astro73|mal it's a thing
20:45 Guardianzozo thanks
20:45 astro73|mal it's feels weird when i don't have them
20:46 Guardianzozo i got wobbly windows and the cube with gears moving inside it lol
20:47 astro73|mal i got the cube. I don't do gears though.
20:47 Guardianzozo i cant remember the name is that program however
20:49 Seroster ARRGh
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20:49 Seroster Hello Hackbat
20:49 Seroster How's it hanging?
20:49 Hackbat little to the left
20:49 Seroster May I adjust it?
20:50 astro73|mal Guardianzozo, you mean compiz?
20:50 Hackbat shouldn't you buy me dinner first?
20:50 Guardianzozo thats the name
20:50 Guardianzozo Hackbat, thats only if he wanted you to adjust his
20:51 Hackbat http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/miscellaneous/eb5f/?cpg=178SP&amp;head
20:51 BotSteve Title: ThinkGeek :: Aperture Thermal Neck Wrap
20:52 Hackbat want
20:53 Seroster DAMN
20:54 Seroster THIRTY SEVEN kilowatt FIFTY HP  Frequenzy drive
20:57 Seroster I WANT
20:57 Seroster Cost new ten grand
20:57 Seroster Cost now two grand
20:58 Guardianzozo hey Hackbat?
20:59 Guardianzozo http://tinypic.com/r/a0bc1/5
20:59 BotSteve Title: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
20:59 Guardianzozo i printed those out yesterday, thought you might like to see the logo i made
21:01 Hackbat neat
21:01 Guardianzozo also got a companion cube somewhere
21:01 masterofmonks http://www.humblebundle.com/
21:01 BotSteve Title: The Humble Introversion Bundle (pay what you want and help charity)
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21:04 Seroster Hey masterofmonks, what would you do with a 200liter barrel of aether?
21:04 masterofmonks You mean Ether?
21:04 masterofmonks .define aether
21:04 Seroster Yes, but with the older spelling.
21:04 BotSteve aether — noun: 1. Alternative spelling of ether
21:05 masterofmonks .wik aether
21:05 BotSteve "Aether (classical element), the material that fills the region of the universe above the terrestrial sphere" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether
21:05 Seroster Would work too.
21:05 masterofmonks What would I do with 200 liters of ether?
21:05 Seroster I.E. how would you dispose of it?
21:05 masterofmonks Whatever I do with it, I would do very carefully.
21:06 Seroster :Grin:
21:06 Seroster Store it next to some hydrogen peroxide, preferably in a rusty barrel, eh?
21:06 masterofmonks I have seen that crap exfuckingplode before.
21:06 Monkeh masterofmonks: I've owned the best game on that list since release day, and still.. I'll be feeding them some coin. Because why not.
21:06 * Monkeh makes himself more broke
21:07 masterofmonks Monkeh: to which game do you refer?
21:07 astro73|mal The humble bundle is always a steal
21:07 Monkeh masterofmonks: Why, Uplink, of course.
21:07 astro73|mal i would buy it if i wasn't broke
21:07 Seroster masterofmonks, My grandfather is a doctor, and his house is full to the brim of both medical supplies, chemicals, dodgy chemicals, VERY dodgy chemicals, old pressure vessels and drugs.
21:08 Guardianzozo brb
21:08 tonsofpcs hmm
21:08 Seroster About 25liters of ether, probably ww2 vintage, and a lot of jars of stuff with labels long gone
21:09 Seroster I plan on getting rid of the lot when I get a drivers licence, sadly I'll have to haul it a fair distance before getting to a place that can dispose of it safely.
21:09 masterofmonks astro73-bot: You can pay as little as .01 dollars
21:10 masterofmonks Seroster: You can always take a que from the Maine state police, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiuyWfnNyr4
21:10 BotSteve Title: Ethyl Ether disposal courtesy of the Maine State Police - YouTube
21:10 Seroster And as for the bottles named "mublemuble"?
21:11 masterofmonks Does he know what they are?
21:11 Monkeh masterofmonks: Y'know, Uplink is 10 years old, and if I had the money to spend I'd pay full price just for another copy of it.
21:13 Seroster masterofmonks, There is a risk he'll be dead before we get on throwing the stuff out, and I doubt he can tell one brown bottle from another.
21:14 masterofmonks Seroster: Your friendly local hazmat chemist will know what to do with it.
21:14 Seroster Yes, as in... You.
21:14 Seroster Suggestions on how to handle and move it safely?
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21:15 Seroster Except for goggles, coat, gloves and love?
21:15 astro73|mal lots of air flow
21:15 Seroster (assuming you are not into BDSM, where love means "beat it with a shovel")
21:15 Seroster Open trailer?
21:15 astro73|mal I mean when you move it
21:15 astro73|mal but probably a vented trailer, to prevent fume build up?
21:16 Seroster Open trailer and a big drychem extinguisher?
21:16 astro73|mal and a note to the local chemicals gov org
21:17 masterofmonks Make sure it isn't leaking, put it in a cardboard box and make sure that they are well padded, and transport to your local hazmat disposal site.
21:17 Cprossu hey everyone what's up?
21:18 Seroster Lokal as in 500km
21:18 Cprossu Monkeh: uplink the game?
21:18 Seroster c*
21:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Yes.
21:18 Cprossu you can still buy a copy on steam can't you?
21:18 Monkeh Cprossu: And not the Half-Life demo.
21:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Which I just did, in a roundabout sort of way.
21:18 Monkeh Cprossu: http://www.humblebundle.com/ (courtesy of masterofmonks)
21:18 BotSteve Title: The Humble Introversion Bundle (pay what you want and help charity)
21:19 Cprossu wow that's kick ass
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21:20 lwq1996 hi
21:20 Monkeh Cprossu: Worth what I paid for one ten year old game alone frankly. And I'll give them more when I can, because it's just a cool idea.
21:21 Cprossu I'm out of cash but I can still kick $5 at least
21:22 Monkeh Cprossu: Exactly what I just did.
21:22 Seroster "No objects matched your search"   "Did you find what you were looking for"    OBVIOUSLY I FUCKING DIDNT :@
21:23 Cprossu $3.93 to charity, $.99 to the devs, and a paltry $.08 for the BW =P
21:23 Cprossu lol
21:24 Monkeh Cprossu: I gave the devs a bit more than that because they're cool.
21:24 Cprossu they are cool, but $5 is what I got heh
21:24 Cprossu (hrmm
21:24 Cprossu (kicks in an extra quarter)
21:25 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | http://www.humblebundle.com/
21:25 Monkeh Cprossu: Uplink has given me more fun for my £12 or whatever it was (I bought it back in the days of home-burnt CDs) than I get out of most full retail games, and for longer.
21:25 Cprossu *there $1.17 to the devs, an even 4 to childs play (I like them) and still .08 for the pw lol
21:29 * Hackbat likes Hacker Revolution better than uplink
21:29 Hackbat though I like the way uplink does programs
21:29 Monkeh Hackbat: They both have their strong points.
21:29 Hackbat yep
21:29 Guardianzozo oh god... uplink i loved that game
21:29 Hackbat HR is more realistic
21:29 Monkeh Hackbat: Duality was a travesty though.
21:29 Hackbat some of those ocmmands exsited!
21:30 Hackbat never saw t
21:30 Monkeh Guardianzozo: Go! Reacquire!
21:30 Monkeh Hackbat: Don't bother paying for it.
21:30 Monkeh Hackbat: It is not worth it.
21:30 Monkeh Hackbat: It has precisely nothing in common with Hacker Revolution.
21:31 Guardianzozo i already own uplink, just need to find it again lol
21:31 Monkeh Guardianzozo: GET IT AGAIN!
21:31 Guardianzozo =P
21:34 Cprossu Monkeh: My $5 purchases of garrysmod were damn fun
21:34 Cprossu heh
21:35 Cprossu I've probably gotten... $1000 of enjoyment out of it so far (checks hours counter on this machine alone: 1,856)
21:38 pegasus Hackbat: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA3x4vVEpKc ?
21:38 BotSteve Title: Hacker Evolution: Untold - Mission 1 walkthrough - Part 1 HD - YouTube
21:39 Monkeh pegasus: Yep, that's HE.
21:39 pegasus right, but they keep saying HR
21:40 pegasus Revolution
21:40 pegasus which i can't seem to find any video of
21:40 Monkeh pegasus: Er, yeah, that's a brainfart.
21:40 Monkeh pegasus: It has been a while since I played it.
21:42 pegasus k
21:42 Cprossu Freaking sweet defcon soundtrack!
21:43 Monkeh Cprossu: What? Where.
21:44 Monkeh Ooh, I see it.
21:44 Monkeh No Uplink soundtrack download though, which is lame
21:44 Monkeh Uplink has some awesome tunes.
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21:49 wannabe1987 hi
21:49 wannabe1987 ...
21:50 Monkeh See what you did?
21:53 Seroster Wbat voltages should I expect in an USB mouse?
21:53 Seroster Five volts somewhere, eh?
21:54 Seroster HM
21:54 Seroster odd.
21:54 Monkeh Seroster: That's the supply
21:54 Cprossu uplink did have some killer tunes
21:54 Monkeh Seroster: i imagine they want lower voltages for certain components.
21:54 * Cprossu starts uplink, tries not to be pwnd
21:55 Seroster My mouse suddenly died
21:55 Seroster Red diode died
21:56 Monkeh LED go pop.
21:56 wannabe1987 Monkeh: I DIDN"T MEAN TO!
22:00 Cprossu Seroster: 5v
22:00 Cprossu what usually goes out on mice are the cords
22:00 Electricguy bedtime! night all
22:00 Electricguy :)
22:00 Cprossu my old mouse I killed 9 cords with or so
22:01 Monkeh Cprossu: Those too.
22:01 Monkeh Cprossu: Cheap ones anyway
22:06 Cprossu Monkeh I've killed plenty of cords on expensive gaming mice too, cloth threaded and everything
22:06 Cprossu when this one dies I'm replacing it with something wrapped in silicone
22:06 Monkeh Cprossu: The sheath doesn't really matter.
22:07 Cprossu nearly all mousecord sucks
22:07 Monkeh Cprossu: It's the conductor which breaks.
22:07 Cprossu yes but usually due to being pinched at a hard angle multiple times
22:07 Monkeh Cprossu: I've long learnt to arrange my desk to minimise stress on the cable.
22:07 Monkeh Also I use a bluetooth mouse if I'm on the move.
22:08 Cprossu when you game you kill mousecords
22:08 Cprossu and wireless mice for that matter
22:08 Monkeh Cprossu: I've never killed my gaming mice.
22:09 wannabe1987 i know you probably saw, but we made the news!  http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/186957/14/Copper-thieves-caught-on-camera
22:09 BotSteve Title: Copper thieves caught on camera | wzzm13.com
22:09 wannabe1987 and i popped a key off typing....oops
22:09 Cprossu then you haven't [strike]been going fast enough (wait that's crashing racecars)[/strike] been playing enough online FPS's
22:09 Monkeh Okay, tell a lie, I broke my MX300. But not the cable.
22:09 Monkeh Cprossu: I've played online FPSes for years. I play at high sensitivity, my mouse hardly moves. :P
22:10 wannabe1987 ...having sex in the parking lot ?!  wtf srsly
22:10 Cprossu who in the world sent that in?
22:11 killakee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LK7o6DpMdA
22:11 Cprossu back when I started our mice had shit for resolution so I don't use high sensativity
22:11 BotSteve Title: How i connected my teslacoil - YouTube
22:11 killakee ups
22:11 killakee wrong place
22:11 Monkeh Cprossu: On my normal desktop sensitivity I move two inches (almost exactly) to cover 1680 pixels.
22:11 Cprossu whenever a battery backup fails I say "UPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
22:11 Monkeh Cprossu: Ingame I can turn it up to more than twice that.
22:11 Monkeh Or down to half
22:12 Monkeh Been using variable sensitivity (and mice nearly this sensitive) for five or six years now. :P
22:13 Cprossu I started gaming nearly 15 years ago
22:13 Cprossu bad habbits die hard
22:13 Monkeh I never developed them. :P
22:13 Cprossu like using my arrow keys for movement =P
22:13 Cprossu or being forced to use reverse mouse
22:13 Cprossu the reverse mouse story is funny though
22:13 Cprossu want to guess how that happened?
22:14 killaway^zzZZ good night felow geeks...
22:14 Cprossu night killaway^zzZZ
22:14 Monkeh Cprossu: Weirdo. :P
22:14 wannabe1987 night!
22:14 Cprossu Monkeh: I hopped on a buddie's computer to play the new game (Half Life)
22:15 Cprossu and.... he had reverse mouse set and played with it (this story is funny too)
22:15 Cprossu he told me I could redo the controls
22:15 Cprossu but I was like !NAH! I'll be fine for a few minutes
22:15 Cprossu so.... I got back home, and I couldn't fucking shoot straight anymore
22:16 Cprossu the reverse mouse fucked my brain up so bad I couldn't hit the broad side of a barn
22:16 Cprossu so I ticked reverse mouse on and at least I could shoot again
22:16 Monkeh Cprossu: You think that's bad, try flying with the stick reversed.
22:16 Cprossu it took me a week to get back to where I was lol
22:17 Cprossu well the stick is always reversed
22:17 Cprossu that's fine with me
22:17 Monkeh .. no it's not?
22:17 Cprossu now if the stick was actually up-up and down-down
22:17 Cprossu that'd fuck me up
22:17 Monkeh But it's not up, it's forwards.
22:17 Cprossu I've always pulled my joysticks down to go up
22:17 Monkeh Yeah, that's backwards.
22:17 Cprossu and hit down on my keyboard to go up
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22:17 Cprossu that's how every single flight game I ever owned worked Monkeh
22:18 Monkeh Cprossu: .. you're not getting me
22:18 Monkeh Cprossu: That's not 'down', that's 'backwards'
22:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Think of it as moving the centre of gravity.
22:18 Cprossu hell all I know is I've always pulled the stick down to go up =P
22:18 Monkeh Cprossu: Consider a yoke. ;)
22:19 Cprossu hence 'pulling up'
22:19 Ponko hmm
22:19 Cprossu BatSteve-Away HELP
22:19 Monkeh Cprossu: Nope, you're getting things all confused. :P
22:19 Ponko yes help i need help too lol
22:20 wannabe1987 ...so if i grow up using one kind of syrup and then they switch kinds on us, is it ok to rather use the first kind or is it considered "too picky" if you don't like the second kind?
22:20 wannabe1987 hi Ponko
22:20 Monkeh wannabe1987: They do what is best for you. You must obey Them.
22:20 Cprossu wannabe1987: ??
22:20 Cprossu chocolate syrup?
22:20 wannabe1987 i'm used to lite syrup....mom switched to regular....
22:20 wannabe1987 no, maple
22:20 Cprossu oooh
22:20 wannabe1987 or butter flavored
22:20 wannabe1987 or for pancakes/waffles
22:20 Cprossu I've always had log cabin -P
22:21 Ponko Monkeh that sounded vaugely german that
22:21 wannabe1987 i like the light stuff....
22:21 sndwrx Whomever linked the WZZM article earlier, http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/Geeks-catch-copper-theft-on-video
22:21 BotSteve Title: GR geeks catch copper theft on video | WOOD TV8
22:21 wannabe1987 not so suggary
22:21 Ponko well WWII Gernab Monkeh
22:21 Cprossu for some reason vermont syrup gives me hives.
22:21 Ponko German*
22:21 wannabe1987 i'm watching the news...its coming up :D
22:21 Cprossu sndwrx: who reported this in?
22:21 Ponko Tate & Lyle is the shizzle
22:21 sndwrx Don't know.  Someone linked the room to WZZM earlier.
22:22 sndwrx Looks like it's on WOOD TV8, too.  :>
22:22 Cprossu it was actually broadcast on WZZM
22:22 wannabe1987 we're watching 8....
22:23 wannabe1987 i linked wzzm13
22:23 Ponko what's the sitrep on those kids from yesterday
22:24 Cprossu lol I wonder what egrsteve|away's doing
22:24 * Cprossu queus up WZZM live
22:25 Cprossu boooo
22:25 egrsteve|away arrving on chat
22:25 Cprossu apparenly we've made the news
22:25 egrsteve|away made wood tv too
22:25 Ponko what you and Steve Cprossu?
22:25 Ponko link
22:26 wannabe1987 mhm
22:26 egrsteve|away woodtv.com
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22:27 wannabe1987 Fulsy: tgg made the news....:P
22:27 Fulsy Scrappers?
22:27 Cprossu yep
22:27 wannabe1987 mhm
22:28 Fulsy awesome
22:29 Fulsy Want to move to MI after high school, but concerned about crap like this
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22:29 Cprossu Fulsy: It's not just a problem in MI though
22:29 Fulsy I know
22:30 Fulsy I just don't see it that much in my neck of the woods
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22:30 Fulsy I'm from a quiet suburban neighborhood in Connecticut
22:31 Fulsy having SEX in the parking lot?
22:31 Fulsy god lord
22:31 Fulsy *good
22:31 wannabe1987 I SEE THE GREEN TRANSFORMER
22:31 wannabe1987 and boden
22:32 wannabe1987 on tv
22:32 wannabe1987 and they did it during the day?!
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22:32 Fulsy are you sure that stuff happens everywhere?
22:32 wannabe1987 i think my brother wants to go there....
22:33 Fulsy Seems like Bridgeport Connecticut
22:33 wannabe1987 good advertising, i think.....
22:33 egrsteve|away sucks to be those two
22:33 wannabe1987 they showed the teslas....:D  good advertising for tgg :P
22:34 pegasus Monkeh: you might like slavehack.
22:34 pegasus considerably less typing and a lot more puzzles
22:35 Fulsy I just hope nothing worse happens to the lab than what's been happening
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22:37 sndwrx Fulsy: Grand Rapids is just in a slump right now.  For the size of the city, things have never been as bad here as they are the last couple years.
22:37 Fulsy oh wow
22:38 Fulsy I hope it improves by the time I'm out of high school
22:38 sndwrx Detroit, Flint and Saginaw?  Yeah, they're dumps.
22:38 sndwrx Detroit is fondly named the "armpit of the world" for a reason:  It's not the worst place you could find yourself, but it's certainly not pleasant.
22:39 Fulsy Well, New York was the same way in the 70's
22:40 Fulsy according to what I've learned, Wasn't born till 95
22:40 sndwrx ah.
22:41 Fulsy *that
22:41 Fulsy Times Square being a porn strip and all tha
22:44 Cprossu oh goodie there's more jobs in MI making door handles
22:44 Ponko well Fulsy you're atleast more mature than lwq1996 is :P but that's not hard
22:44 Cprossu =P
22:45 Fulsy lol
22:48 Cprossu ewwwwwwww
22:49 Cprossu (hyundai 'rap' commercial)
22:49 * lwq1996 pokes irc
22:49 * wannabe-nom pokes lee
22:49 lwq1996 hia
22:49 lwq1996 nom nom nom
22:49 Ponko alright mate
22:49 Ponko WANKAAAAAAAA
22:49 wannabe-nom picking fights with geeks :P
22:49 Cprossu http://www.woodtv.com/subindex/video/live_video
22:49 BotSteve Title: WOOD TV8 | Video - Live Video - WOOD
22:49 wannabe-nom thats what news said....
22:49 lwq1996 and i am cleaning my room...so fucking messy
22:49 wannabe-nom lol
22:49 Cprossu ^ for those who want to watch it'll be on soon
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22:50 Cprossu whatever soon means
22:50 lwq1996 im not kidding i found a sock in a cup under my bed
22:50 Ponko someone picked on a geek about 5 years ago and was promptly knocked out
22:50 lwq1996 and there are feathers under it from my pillow
22:50 wannabe-nom ...
22:50 lwq1996 damn im tired
22:52 Ponko that geek was me and what that dickhead hadn't realised i did Ninjutsu can see toned muscle under a school shirt
22:52 wannabe-nom lol
22:52 Ponko can'T
22:53 Ponko O_O OMG
22:53 Cprossu flourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol
22:53 Ponko lol wow
22:53 Ponko i know not to buy flour for their present that's for damn sure
22:54 Cprossu now see if kidwell was one of those children the house woulda asloded
22:54 Cprossu *asploded
22:54 Cprossu 5lb flour bomb lol
22:54 Ponko lol
22:55 Ponko is it REALLY
22:55 Ponko lol i was JUST thinking about gf when that jewerelly ad came on Cprossu.......
22:55 SparkyProjects If Captain was one of those kids, he would make it Implode :D
22:56 Cprossu lol
22:56 SparkyProjects Just to be one up on Kidwell
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22:56 Ponko but remember Kidwell knows how Boden diminishes
22:56 lwq1996 oh yes my bro just got a cd rom!!!! rebooted computer here you come
22:57 Cprossu I wonder if anything's come up radioactive yet
22:57 Ponko what with the toys?
22:57 egrsteve|away radium paint?
22:57 Cprossu no, cesium 137 paint
22:57 egrsteve|away it Glows in the DARK!
22:58 Ponko hahaha here they are
22:58 egrsteve|away they are pushing the copper thieves
22:58 Fulsy Menards? Never heard of them
22:58 Ponko is this live?
22:58 egrsteve|away must be the big news of the day
22:58 Cprossu I want a menards =(
22:58 Fulsy It's so weird watching another state's TV
22:58 Cprossu rofl egrsteve|away slow news day
22:58 Cprossu minus the heroin bust
22:58 wannabe-nom lol
22:58 Ponko wrong bloody country for me
22:59 SparkyProjects ooh, that advertised toolkit is dangerous, it has sharp edges :P
22:59 wannabe-nom my brother saw the teslas, i think he wants to go there :P
22:59 Ponko lol
22:59 Fulsy EIGHT HUNDRED FIVE EIGHT EIGHT TWO THREE HUNDRED, EMPIRe
22:59 wannabe-nom he's almost 11....
22:59 Fulsy today
22:59 wannabe-nom lol
22:59 Cprossu lol egrsteve|away we need graphics somehow
22:59 Ponko lol start them off early
23:00 wannabe-nom that was weird Fulsy....you were quoting what i saw on tv! :P
23:00 Ponko LET THAT GUY BURN
23:00 Cprossu out stream quality > news channels streams
23:00 Fulsy lol
23:00 Cprossu *our
23:00 egrsteve|away thats sad
23:00 wannabe-nom need to go to dinner now...bye :D
23:00 egrsteve|away buffering
23:00 Ponko later jelly
23:00 Cprossu boooooooo
23:00 Ponko kelly*
23:00 egrsteve|away ok, back
23:01 Ponko buffer.... it's back
23:01 Cprossu they probably aren't used to the 6 people who are now loading their stream server
23:01 egrsteve|away probably
23:01 Ponko wonder how bad it is in WI
23:01 egrsteve|away depends
23:02 egrsteve|away lake michigan can make or kill storm
23:02 egrsteve|away ss
23:02 Cprossu rofl they are pushing it
23:02 SparkyProjects TGG should offer to improve Wood's streaming quality, for a price
23:02 Cprossu funny as hell
23:02 Cprossu SparkyProjects: shhhhhhhhhhhh
23:02 Cprossu ( SparkyProjects perhaps some SDI cameras though? hah)
23:02 Ponko wow this guy needs to die
23:02 egrsteve|away even there sound is bad
23:02 Cprossu yeah I wonder if they know o_o
23:03 Cprossu tonsofpcs you around?
23:03 egrsteve|away this is the "biggest" station in the area
23:03 egrsteve|away fully robotic cameras ect
23:03 Ponko i'm gonna stop watching the stream for a while this is pissing me off
23:03 egrsteve|away and that was 4+ years ago
23:03 Fulsy Sensationalism
23:04 Cprossu buffer
23:04 egrsteve|away Yay main stream media
23:04 Cprossu ROFL
23:04 Cprossu HAHAHAA
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23:04 Cprossu that's too funny
23:04 egrsteve|away I dont' ussually wanth the news, now I remember why
23:04 egrsteve|away *watch
23:05 Cprossu (the drug supplier across the street from the reform place)
23:05 Ponko man this drug bust crew look like pure scum it's hilarious
23:05 egrsteve|away it happens
23:05 SparkyProjects Try watching fullscreen on a 22 widescreen :D
23:05 egrsteve|away ouch
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23:06 Cprossu this shit ain't fit for a 12" LCD
23:06 Ponko TOASTY
23:06 Cprossu YAY
23:06 Cprossu us.
23:06 egrsteve|away here it is
23:06 Ponko here we go
23:06 egrsteve|away hey our genrator
23:06 Ponko lol that is MASSIVE
23:07 Fulsy LOL @ boden
23:07 Ponko lol
23:07 Seroster Goodnight folks
23:07 Cprossu rofl
23:07 Ponko hahaha "that's brian"
23:08 Cprossu that guy would totally shit bricks if that were his name
23:08 egrsteve|away I wonder how many YT hits we have?
23:08 Cprossu 300 last check
23:08 Cprossu looking again
23:08 SparkyProjects HAHA, was thinking the same thing , and his mate is michael :P
23:08 egrsteve|away 315 main
23:08 Cprossu 407 now
23:08 egrsteve|away 407 captains
23:09 egrsteve|away so over 700
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23:09 Toastdude Hello Battlestar
23:10 Sgt_Lemming Galactica?
23:10 Ponko Cprossu FOOTBALL is on the news
23:10 Cprossu not looking Ponko already closed
23:10 Cprossu but yeesh
23:10 Toastdude No, Pegasus :P
23:10 Cprossu the qual on it
23:10 Cprossu yikes
23:10 Sgt_Lemming <Ponko> Cprossu FOOTBALL is on the news <--- epic levels of Meh
23:10 Ponko for ME it's high so SHUSH Sgt_Lemming
23:11 Cprossu meh
23:11 Ponko lol
23:14 NeWtoz Only 2 more days Ponko
23:15 Cprossu lol and Ponko gets saved by NeWtoz
23:15 Ponko indeed i dp
23:15 egrsteve|away and now the neighbors know the cameras are real
23:15 Ponko do*
23:15 Ponko yep
23:16 NeWtoz lol, dp
23:16 Cprossu egrsteve|away do we have replacement glass for those fixtures?
23:16 Ponko isn't there a thing that those kids should be at idk say SCHOOL
23:16 NeWtoz there was something on the news?
23:16 egrsteve|away which fixtures?
23:16 NeWtoz I never watch the news
23:17 Cprossu the cameras outside covering the transformers and generator
23:17 egrsteve|away we can cut polycarb if we have to
23:17 Cprossu good to know
23:17 egrsteve|away 1/4" polycarb, can't smash that
23:17 Cprossu egrsteve|away: bullets
23:17 egrsteve|away we have bullet proof glass too
23:18 NeWtoz if people start shooting at the lab, we have bigger problems
23:18 egrsteve|away but the box is weaker
23:18 Cprossu they don't know that egrsteve|away
23:18 egrsteve|away if they start shooting, at least 3 people there have conceled carry
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23:19 egrsteve|away it would suck to be them
23:19 Ponko NeWtoz if it was Detriot it would be a regular occurances
23:19 Cprossu and a buffalo rifle
23:19 Cprossu @ egrsteve|away
23:19 egrsteve|away yes, and a buffalo rifle
23:19 Ponko even the name is violent. Det Riot
23:19 egrsteve|away I could use that for instlling cameras who needs a hammer dril
23:20 NeWtoz that reminds me of a bad joke a friend of mine had
23:20 Cprossu egrsteve|away: it would also destroy much of the building's structure
23:20 NeWtoz How do you kill a blue elephant?
23:20 egrsteve|away sadly yes
23:20 NeWtoz with a blue elephant gun!
23:20 Ponko -_-
23:21 Cprossu I think you blew that joke NeWtoz
23:21 NeWtoz It's not my joke
23:21 Cprossu hah hah hah hah
23:21 Cprossu get it?
23:21 Cprossu 'blew' it
23:21 NeWtoz OH
23:21 NeWtoz heh
23:21 Ponko lol
23:22 Ponko Cprossu should get a job at a newspaper
23:22 Ponko with puns like that c'mon lol
23:22 Cprossu turbo puns.
23:23 NeWtoz time to get ready for work
23:24 NeWtoz I'm really looking forward to the thanksgiving holiday
23:24 NeWtoz I get 5 days off
23:24 dbshortwave sweet
23:25 * egrsteve|away returns to lurk mode
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23:25 tgg|yNos hey yo
23:25 tgg|yNos Cprossu: you around?
23:25 Cprossu I'm looking forward to getting a cheap hopefully acer amd c60 cpu'ed netbook
23:25 Cprossu yeah what's up?
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23:25 tgg|yNos i just grabbed the test stream pc
23:25 tgg|yNos and a couple cameras
23:25 Cprossu cool
23:26 Cprossu you may have to hop the header over to get full use of both composites
23:26 tgg|yNos nevermind..
23:26 Cprossu I don't know which uses what
23:26 Cprossu nevermind?
23:26 tgg|yNos i just thought it through
23:26 Cprossu what was the thought?
23:26 tgg|yNos i only know of these 2 baluns here in my hand.
23:27 tgg|yNos and i have 2 camera
23:27 tgg|yNos and no bnc connections on the stream pc
23:27 Ponko1 lol i love how saying someone looks Aryan makes them think you think they're gorgeous
23:27 Cprossu we've got composite->bnc's
23:27 tgg|yNos i need to go find some bnc to rca
23:27 Cprossu same signal
23:27 Ponko1 no it's just you've got blonde hair and blue eyes that's all
23:28 tgg|yNos time to ho connector hunting
23:28 tgg|yNos afk a bit
23:28 tonsofpcs are they not still in the milk crate in mc?
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23:33 sndwrx HAHA
23:33 sndwrx I forgot about the Empire commercials.
23:34 sndwrx Shows how often I watch them.
23:34 sndwrx I watch TV, rather.
23:34 sndwrx I hunger.
23:34 sndwrx brb
23:41 * sndwrx nods.
23:45 * sndwrx peers around.
23:46 sndwrx ...sure is quiet in here.
23:47 astro73|mal it happens from time to time
23:48 BotSteve FUCK! FUCK! I'M ON FIRE!!
23:48 dbshortwave >.>
23:49 dbshortwave lol botsteve is on fire!
23:49 sndwrx lonely, i'm mister lonely.. i have nobody to call my own!
23:49 sndwrx haha
23:49 * wannabe-nom sprays water on BotSteve
23:49 sndwrx hey wannabe-nom
23:49 wannabe1987 hi
23:49 sndwrx how's it goin'?
23:49 BotSteve Thanks, wannabe-nom.
23:50 wannabe1987 you're welcome, BotSteve
23:50 wannabe1987 its goin....looking for work :P
23:50 * sndwrx nods.
23:50 sndwrx Where are ya now?
23:50 wannabe1987 jenison/hudsonville
23:50 sndwrx That's cool.
23:50 dbshortwave botsteve is wankin it off to schematics again without oil
23:50 wannabe1987 5 minutes makes a city change :P
23:50 dbshortwave lol
23:50 wannabe1987 lol
23:51 Fulsy Played the Ski-ball machine song on the hammond just now
23:51 Fulsy feel so accomplished!
23:51 wannabe1987 lol
23:51 sndwrx wannabe1987: What do you mean?
23:51 wannabe1987 well, i am now at moms house, 5 min is grandmas, and its hudsonville, not jenison :P
23:51 masterofmonks I got a couple of fairly decent welds today, so I feel allright.
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23:52 sndwrx Oh, right.  Yeah the greater Grand Rapids area is like that.  Kind of, borderless cities all mashed together.
23:52 wannabe1987 yes
23:52 masterofmonks One is ugly as hell, but the other is... I've seen better and worse.
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23:53 masterofmonks Which just reinforces my opinion that if you can't run a mig gun, you need help.
23:53 tonsofpcs Cprossu, yNos: How to fix a computer: http://theoatmeal.com/blog/fix_computer
23:53 BotSteve Title: How to fix any computer - The Oatmeal
23:55 wannabe1987 tiem to go do work
23:56 Hackbat oh wow
23:56 Hackbat X11 over SSH is soooooo fun
23:56 sndwrx hahaha "mount: /live/cow is busy"
23:56 Cprossu you know that's not how I do it
23:57 Cprossu @ tonsofpcs
23:57 sndwrx Cprossu: Do you mount /dead/cow??
23:57 sndwrx oh, okay.
23:57 * sndwrx snickers.
23:57 masterofmonks http://wimp.com/trustmorality/
23:57 BotSteve Title: Trust, morality, and oxytocin. [VIDEO]
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23:59 sndwrx I wnat to know why fixing your computer requires learning C++ for Linux ...
23:59 Cprossu before I do anything Step 1) Turn off if not already, Step 2) Take apart, Step 3) Look for faulty capacitors, Step 4) Give up if step 3 turns positive, otherwise blow dust out Step 5) look for any faulty fans, Step 6) Look for bubblegum underneath the heatsinks while checking retension-replace thermal paste if so.

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