Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-23

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Time Nick Message
00:00 Cprossu I do this even before I much with software
00:00 Cprossu *much=muck
00:00 Cprossu that way any troubleshooting I need to do will work faster =P
00:00 Cprossu or not be done for a moot point
00:01 KernelTrap sndwrx: um, it doesn't?
00:01 sndwrx KernelTrap: Right.
00:01 KernelTrap if anything you'd be working with C ;3
00:02 sndwrx Cprossu: You check for gum?
00:02 Cprossu bubble gum aka frag tape.
00:02 Cprossu aka "Thermal Interface Material"
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00:06 sndwrx Oh, right.
00:06 sndwrx Man I'm really disappointed in the thermal tape on my Toughbook.
00:06 sndwrx But I'm not certain what to do about it.  Maybe you have suggestions.
00:07 Cprossu is it the thick stuff?
00:07 sndwrx The bottom of the case has the heatpipe/heatsink attached to it
00:07 sndwrx So whenever you have to open the case, you have to remove the heatpipe from the proc and graphics chips.
00:07 sndwrx Yeah it's more like silicone than anything else I'm used to.
00:08 Cprossu yeah that's for shock absortion/etc
00:08 sndwrx Right.
00:08 Ponko what do you do if you're in a hotel room and there's no toilet paper
00:08 Cprossu you really can't get away from that shit in that paticular case
00:08 Cprossu Ponko: you use a football
00:08 sndwrx It's really difficult to tell, but it looks almost like the heat pipe doesn't even come in contact with the proc slug.
00:08 sndwrx If it does, it's thanks only to the thickness of that crap thermal rubber.
00:08 Ponko c'mon be realistic Cprossu
00:09 Ponko you drip dry or you go to the reception and ask for a new roll
00:09 sndwrx You use a kleenex.
00:09 sndwrx If there's no kleenex, you use a towel.
00:09 Ponko that's what i though
00:09 Ponko -t
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00:10 Ponko but this ONE guy DESTROYED his hotel room because there was NO toilet paper
00:10 Cprossu Ponko, you would have to use the basket full of poison oak that your girlfriend left you(?) when she took all your toilet paper, kleenex, and towels out as revenge.
00:11 Ponko for what though me and my gf are on FAB terms
00:12 Cprossu you made her cry when you stopped all communication with her for 6 hours (like on irc)
00:12 Cprossu so she stole all your tp
00:12 Ponko -_- she's lying RIGHT next to me
00:12 sndwrx Sounds like a sweetheart if all she did was stole your bog roll.
00:12 Cprossu damn.
00:12 * sndwrx snickers.
00:13 Cprossu was worth a shot I suppose
00:13 Ponko ;) i think that hit the corner flag
00:13 sndwrx So, does anyone know what's in the "flavor enhancer" packets they put in some ramen noodles now?
00:13 Ponko monosodiumglutomate
00:13 Ponko MSG FTW
00:14 Cprossu it's like the dr. who time machine those packets
00:14 Cprossu there's more msg on the inside than can possibly exist in it's physical size
00:15 Ponko lol :P
00:15 sndwrx You may be correct, I was not aware these noodles had MSG.
00:15 Ponko it's Chinese salt
00:15 Ponko is it Chinese noodles?
00:15 sndwrx It just looks like oil and concentrated boullion to me.
00:15 Cprossu they made me break out in hives
00:15 Cprossu I have to know about it
00:15 sndwrx Ponko: It's a Nissin Souper Meal noodle cup.
00:15 Cprossu the noodles themselves are fine
00:16 Cprossu the flavoring isn't
00:16 Cprossu the nissin's make me damn near deadly ill
00:16 Ponko take that as a no or it's Japanese
00:16 Cprossu I can actually eat the Sapporo Ichiban though
00:17 Cprossu http://www.ramenramenramen.net/wp-images/sapporo_ichiban_original.jpg
00:17 Cprossu ^ only msg filled packet flavor that doesn't make me violently ill or break out in hives
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00:20 sndwrx okay here's the moment of truth:
00:21 sndwrx Will multiseat still work after the modifications I've made?
00:23 sndwrx Pretty kick ass.  Except it seems to have overwritten my GDM configuration.
00:25 KernelTrap I REALLY don't get the whole fuss over MSG
00:25 KernelTrap MSG intolerance is EXTREMELY rare
00:26 KernelTrap and if you've not got some kind of intolerance for it, msg itself won't mess with your body unless you eat some ridiculous large amount of it
00:26 KernelTrap same for salt, you'd have to eat a big fucking bowl of table salt for noticable detrimental effects on your health
00:26 masterofmonks KernelTrap: it's like gluten allergies. 90% of the peopel who claim to have them don't.
00:27 sndwrx hm.
00:27 sndwrx Anyone know how to disable the F10 menu in GDM?
00:28 KernelTrap masterofmonks: I think the confusion comes in when people don't reealize that the chinese food that fucks up their bowels are also full of oils and fiber and all sorts of other things that'd make a difference there
00:28 masterofmonks And then the thing that especially pisses me off, "Don't give that baby a vaccine, it'll cause autim."
00:28 eadthem anyone thought of posting wanted posters over the naborhood with the scrappers face on them?
00:28 masterofmonks KernelTrap: You mean fiber that most people don't ever eat....
00:28 eadthem ya know just a 10 block radius   odds are them and there parents live in that area
00:28 KernelTrap masterofmonks: yep
00:29 KernelTrap OHGOD I'M POOPING MORE THAN ONCE TODAY I'M HORRIBLY SICK!!!
00:29 masterofmonks Heh.
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00:30 masterofmonks For a while I had a diet that consisted primarially of brown rice. That certainly changes ones perspective of what, regular means.
00:31 KernelTrap masterofmonks: I survived off of oats, salami, and "process cheese product" for about two months
00:31 masterofmonks Processed cheese product... yuck.
00:31 KernelTrap not processed
00:31 eadthem ya know just a sign that says  WANTED  information leading to the arrest and conviction  INSERT PHOTOS HERE  For vandalisim and theft.
00:31 KernelTrap the pckage literally said "process cheese product"
00:31 KernelTrap without the ed
00:31 eadthem print off like 50 of them and put them up in the area
00:31 KernelTrap like "process" was the name of it or something
00:31 masterofmonks Weird...
00:32 KernelTrap they also had IMITATION process cheese product
00:32 masterofmonks What kind of oats?
00:32 KernelTrap masterofmonks: instant, because 20 pounds of it for like $15
00:32 KernelTrap and groats were much much more
00:33 KernelTrap oat groats
00:33 masterofmonks Could have gone for Old Fashoned, for abotu the same price though.
00:33 KernelTrap deliciousm but
00:33 KernelTrap masterofmonks: not around here
00:33 masterofmonks Here is?
00:33 KernelTrap the land where everything is made of corn
00:33 KernelTrap even the liquor is
00:34 masterofmonks Kentucky?
00:34 KernelTrap tenn
00:35 masterofmonks Have to confess, I was damn close as things go.
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00:41 sndwrx DJ Fres
00:41 sndwrx h
00:43 masterofmonks Damn.
00:44 masterofmonks Anne McCaffrey has died.
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00:49 masterofmonks So what is the bandwidth of a carrier pidgeon I wonder.
00:50 astro73|alice somebody tested that once
00:51 Sgt_Lemming these days considering how much data you can get on a MicroSD card, I think it would be quite a lot per pidgeon
00:51 astro73|alice .w IP over Avian Carriers
00:51 BotSteve "In computer networking, IP over Avian Carriers (IPoAC) is a humorously intended proposal to carry Internet Protocol (IP) traffic by birds such as homing pigeons." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_over_Avian_Carriers
00:51 masterofmonks My guess is at least 256Gb per pidgeon
00:52 astro73|alice .c 5222806.6 ms in seconds
00:52 BotSteve 5 222.8066 seconds
00:52 astro73|alice .c 56 bytes / 222.8 seconds
00:52 BotSteve 0.251346499 bytes per second
00:52 astro73|alice the ping rates aren't so good, though
00:56 eadthem http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/Geeks-catch-copper-theft-on-video?ref=scroller&categoryId=10001&status=true
00:56 BotSteve Title: GR geeks catch copper theft on video | WOOD TV8
00:56 eadthem o now thats better than a wanted poster
00:59 SparkyProjects Securitycams online
01:00 SparkyProjects Soemone's nicked the transformers :D
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01:00 sndwrx HA
01:00 eadthem generators still outside?
01:00 sndwrx Just fixed up the gdm.conf again and good as grand.
01:00 Cprossu hey everyone
01:01 tggmc moving those transformers was not fun
01:01 Cprossu masterofmonks: pretty high if you use big ass thumb drives
01:01 tggmc tune into the captains blog for more
01:01 Cprossu sorry egrsteve
01:01 tggmc ?
01:01 Cprossu tggmc: when's the new Captain's blog hitting?
01:01 Cprossu ahhh nm
01:01 tggmc idk
01:02 tggmc if he posts one for today, transformer moving
01:02 eadthem traffic is going to drive the door camera nuts
01:02 Cprossu fun fun, who was in on the move?
01:02 tggmc ttyl
01:02 Cprossu eadthem: that's not patched into the sec system
01:02 tggmc me, batman ynos chris
01:03 Cprossu suckage =(
01:03 Cprossu those things weigh as much as a late 70's olds
01:03 eadthem batman heading out the front door
01:04 Cprossu lol run as fast as you can
01:04 eadthem looks like chris is heading out the back
01:04 eadthem wheres camera 4 at?
01:04 Cprossu So I hope those scappers owned a TV
01:05 eadthem well there parents probably do
01:05 Cprossu handicap eadthem
01:05 JA12 tggmc: you got the scrappers on camera.. congratulations ^^
01:05 eadthem and the local NBC picked up the story :p
01:05 eadthem thats the greatis part  it dosent matter if they get caught   there parents will almost certanly know now
01:06 Cprossu tggmc: think you could give the jupiter network server thinkcentre a reboot?
01:06 Sgt_Lemming eadthem, there parents could be in onit
01:06 Sgt_Lemming their*
01:06 eadthem so what   go steel some copper as one of there choors
01:07 SparkyProjects who's with the torch on cam 5
01:07 Cprossu lol. mow the lawn, do the dishes, steal copper.
01:07 Cprossu it's not bright enough to be steve's
01:07 dbshortwave bang the ol lady in TGG parking lot
01:08 Cprossu so Jeff is back eh?
01:08 SparkyProjects Might be dave
01:08 Cprossu nope that was steve
01:08 Cprossu going to his car
01:08 Cprossu then coming back in?
01:09 Cprossu yes steve we saw you lol
01:09 Cprossu ok that was dave
01:09 JA12 he's going to steal his own car
01:09 Cprossu SparkyProjects got it right
01:09 Cprossu lol
01:09 Cprossu he went out handicap and came through the front.
01:09 Cprossu and away goes steve
01:10 astro73|mal We'll see how well this is going to work. I connected Alice IRC to BitlBee, even though Alice doesn't do auto-away
01:11 SparkyProjects OK, nightshift on security duty, do you think 15 security guards are overkill ? :D
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01:12 eadthem not even the mouse will go unnotice
01:12 eadthem unnoticed
01:12 wannabe1987 OLIVE GARDEN FOR DINNER TOMORROW
01:13 wannabe1987 lwq1996?
01:13 JA12 SparkyProjects: don't forget the gun turrets
01:13 SparkyProjects Thhey haven't installed those yet.
01:13 JA12 :)
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01:14 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=InaAJQtLfJw#t=381s
01:14 BotSteve Title: Argon DPSS Laser Update - YouTube
01:14 eadthem how bout that for a security alarm
01:15 eadthem just have it call the police and tell them  to look for the lasers shooting out the top of the building
01:16 eadthem 7 min 8 seconds  2 miles away
01:16 SparkyProjects Nah, mount it on a remote pan/tilt head with an aiming laser, then we hold them until the police arrive.
01:16 eadthem you scan it right and it will look like a bat signal
01:17 eadthem expecialy on a cloudy night
01:17 SparkyProjects No good in thick fog
01:17 JA12 eadthem: there could be a problem. police might call batman to fight crime but that might not work if it's him who is calling =)
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01:20 wannabe1987 ...
01:20 wannabe1987 our batman can't fly....he's to big..........
01:21 JA12 nothing that hi-tech gadgets can't fix
01:23 wannabe1987 lol
01:23 Sgt_Lemming he can wannabe1987, just it takes a bit more energy to get him airborne, and you don't wanna be there when he lands :-P
01:23 wannabe1987 lol
01:23 wannabe1987 exactly!
01:24 Fulsy Does Boden come on IRC anymore?
01:24 astro73|alice .seen CaptainBoden
01:24 BotSteve astro73|alice: I last saw captainboden 143.08 hours ago at 2011-11-17 02:19:56 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:24:56 UTC
01:25 wannabe1987 there is a puppy next to me :D
01:25 Sgt_Lemming 6 days ago
01:25 wannabe1987 he's nine
01:25 Cprossu he sure does Fulsy but...
01:25 SparkyProjects If the fire brigade can get a car to fly, Batman will be easy
01:25 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9guJNqTMnAU
01:25 Cprossu only get him on irc if we need anything.
01:25 BotSteve Title: Flying Car - YouTube
01:25 Fulsy oh
01:26 wannabe1987 and he doesn't know we need anything till he gets here :P
01:26 Cprossu You can get him in IRC by posting him on facebook, but don't do it often, and not for little things :D
01:26 wannabe1987 you can leave a tell :P
01:26 Fulsy lol
01:26 Fulsy Just curious
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01:29 astro73|mal oh look. The SoftwareGR meeting is next week, not this week X-(
01:30 dbshortwave raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaage.jpg
01:30 Cprossu .yt nope.avi
01:30 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvdf5n-zI14
01:31 egrsteve lurk mode: off
01:31 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
01:31 BotSteve At 22 Nov 16:55Z, Cprossu asked me to tell egrsteve the DVR hates power being pulled from it and doesn't start back up nicely at all afterwards
01:31 Cprossu hey egrsteve you sure drive down quick.
01:31 egrsteve ?
01:32 Cprossu or the DVR is fucked up and you're screwing with us
01:32 egrsteve idk
01:32 egrsteve it runs 15fps
01:32 egrsteve so it may be an artict
01:32 egrsteve and the lens/angle
01:33 Cprossu your saturn and hat are not artifacts
01:33 Cprossu speaking of which I should make a cut
01:36 egrsteve maybe I should take a bow, turn around and pull out next time
01:37 egrsteve seeing it seems someone is always watching
01:37 Cprossu perhaps
01:37 egrsteve with all the news coverage everyone knows the cameras work
01:37 Cprossu yeah I hope so
01:38 Cprossu let's hope our scrappers aren't neanderthals without TV
01:38 Cprossu apparently none of woodtv's viewers have the internet as the main channel still has 315 views
01:40 egrsteve nice
01:42 Cprossu egrsteve : http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/300701570 Part 4, 1:50:00,
01:42 Cprossu lol
01:42 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv - The Geek Group - The Geek Group Live!
01:42 Cprossu run run run run run!
01:42 Cprossu haha
01:43 egrsteve what am i looking for
01:43 Cprossu little bit afterwards
01:44 Cprossu look for [strike]pod bay door[/strike] mdh door
01:44 egrsteve i see intern steve leave
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01:45 db-stinky i need a shower
01:45 wannabe1987 stop shitting on thyself
01:45 egrsteve me standing by boardroom door
01:45 wannabe1987 hi astro73|alice
01:45 astro73|mal hi
01:45 db-stinky lol
01:45 astro73|alice it's all the same
01:46 db-stinky im off to get a shower and get some rust off me
01:46 astro73|mal they're both right here
01:46 egrsteve pace a bit waiting for dave
01:46 astro73|alice I can just keep swapping
01:46 egrsteve dave checks door
01:46 egrsteve i look at camra
01:47 Cprossu intern steve sure runs fast though doesn't he
01:47 egrsteve and pull out
01:47 egrsteve ya
01:47 Cprossu if he's still around next time I visit the lab I'll have to scare the shit outa him
01:47 egrsteve your mean
01:48 Cprossu heh.
01:50 Cprossu was it the "if he's still around next time", or the "I'll have to scare the shit outa him"?
01:53 Cprossu @ egrsteve
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01:55 egrsteve ya
01:56 wannabe1987 anyone good with wireless networks?  egrsteve?
01:57 wannabe1987 noone this AM was....thought i'll ask now
01:57 Cprossu not my fault that tgg eats interns xD
01:57 Sgt_Lemming reasonably so wannabe1987
01:57 wannabe1987 om nom nom?
01:57 Sgt_Lemming what's the issue?
01:57 egrsteve :)
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01:57 wannabe1987 i have two networks on my computer that are named the same....but have different passwords.  with out changing their names, how do i get my computer(s) to realize there are TWO networks named "vanderwells" and that they are *not* the same....and so then i can get internets at grandmas....
01:58 egrsteve you change the name of one
01:58 wannabe1987 really?
01:58 Cprossu ^ best option, anything else is a pita.
01:58 wannabe1987 their not my networks tho....
01:58 wannabe1987 they*
01:59 Cprossu they both named 'linksys'?
01:59 Cprossu lol
01:59 wannabe1987 no, i stated what they're named in my post/rant
01:59 Cprossu totally wasn't paying attention
01:59 Cprossu lol
01:59 wannabe1987 obviously :P
01:59 Cprossu well the options you have are a third party AP manager
02:00 Cprossu or macid matching
02:00 Cprossu or
02:00 Cprossu are they different people's networks?
02:00 wannabe1987 yeah....5 minutes away from each other (car ride)
02:01 Cprossu would one consider using the same pw as the other?
02:01 egrsteve then the solution is a high gain antenna
02:01 Cprossu rofl @ egrsteve
02:01 Cprossu hi gain and directional.
02:01 wannabe1987 i don't know....ones dads network, the other dad set up :P
02:01 egrsteve agreed
02:01 wannabe1987 but i'm the only one who seems to have this *issue*
02:02 Cprossu well if you could get one to change to the other's password, no more *issue*
02:02 wannabe1987 like last night it said it was connected but irc wouldn't connect.....
02:02 wannabe1987 ok.
02:02 wannabe1987 i gotta get going, i'll be back tomorrow
02:02 Cprossu later
02:02 wannabe1987 unless it magically works :P
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02:10 dbshortwave better
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02:15 astro73|alice I believe perl is the only language I look at and go "..... what?"
02:17 BatSteve sup
02:17 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
02:17 BotSteve At 22 Nov 19:52Z, astro73|mal asked me to tell BatSteve to fix fortune
02:18 astro73|alice BatSteve: I'm going to try and learn a bit of perl by porting PISG to Python
02:18 astro73|alice and no, I was not drunk when I came up with this idea
02:18 BatSteve fix it how?
02:19 astro73|alice .fortune
02:19 BotSteve Cobol programmers are down in the dumps.
02:19 astro73|alice huh. that's different
02:19 Cprossu ^ and it's true.
02:19 Cprossu I wouldn't call that as much a fortune as reality
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02:22 Cprossu oh dear Isopropyl|Win95. what irc client are you using?
02:22 Cprossu mirc xD
02:24 Cprossu .yt dead skunk in the middle of the road
02:24 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doqTSev-_lQ
02:29 Cprossu I had to use mirc 5.19 on my zenith 386 'netbook' sized computer
02:29 Cprossu iirc
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02:58 Ponko hmmmm
02:59 SparkyProjects Ouch http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/video.cfm?c_id=1&gal_objectid=10768105&gallery_id=122790
02:59 BotSteve Title: Raw video: Helicopter crash at Auckland's Viaduct - National - NZ Herald Videos
02:59 Ponko thanks sparky thought i was gonna save the chat there lol
02:59 Cprossu damn you steammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
03:00 Cprossu I need to make a new ignition timing system, not be held up on a loading screen!
03:01 Cheezmo Man, the pilots neck looks like it's gonna be really sore if he survived that
03:02 SparkyProjects Yeah, he survived, no inhuries to him or anyone nearby
03:02 Ponko Cprossu what's it for
03:02 Cprossu A V8 that we built
03:03 Ponko ah ok for the Esprit
03:03 Cprossu (well a virtual v8, and technically it's right now a 2 stroke v8 lol)
03:03 Cprossu noooooooooo
03:03 Cprossu it's something out of boredom
03:03 Ponko ok.....
03:03 Cprossu hence 'gmod'
03:03 Cprossu and 'steam'
03:04 Ponko lol i was thinking the Lotus at the lab is (well was) a V8
03:04 Cprossu we asked for it sans engine Ponko
03:04 Cprossu so we wouldn't be lazy and just drive around a gasser lotus
03:04 Ponko i know lol
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03:05 Ponko Cprossu why did i think of waynes world when you said that
03:06 Ponko maybe it's because Garth is 'sans parents'
03:09 y007ghg7- hmm i might play gmod...
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03:09 Cprossu I've got a quiet build server if you need a place
03:10 Cprossu we're heavily modded thouth y007ghg7-
03:10 y007ghg7- hmm
03:10 sndwrx home again, home again, jiggity jig.
03:10 Cprossu I can run you through most of the weirdness though if you need
03:11 y007ghg7- wat is your steam name
03:12 Cprossu it's nikon but you won't be able to find it
03:12 Cprossu http://steamcommunity.com/id/cprossu
03:12 BotSteve Title: Steam Community :: ID :: Nikon
03:13 yNos Cprossu: do you know much about the ptz cameras we have?
03:13 Cprossu nope, just that we have them and there's a box that we need to figure out how to make it work
03:14 yNos from what i read, it looks like many of them support rs-485 in multidrop..
03:14 yNos not sure on ours in particular..
03:14 yNos just from bumbling around...
03:15 yNos pelco is a common, but not defeacto std
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03:17 BatSteve .seen Monkeh
03:17 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw monkeh 4.94 hours ago at 2011-11-22 22:20:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:17:01 UTC
03:17 tonsofpcs Cprossu: just dust? we have one machine that's a short hair (like 1/3" max length, very 'furry') magnet........
03:17 BatSteve BotSteve: tell Monkeh that I have the uplink soundtrack if he would like it
03:17 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when Monkeh is around.
03:18 tonsofpcs there is no uplink, only zuul.
03:18 Cprossu tonsofpcs: ??
03:18 tonsofpcs Cprossu: computer repair
03:18 Cprossu oooh
03:18 tonsofpcs yNos: which cameras?
03:18 Cprossu yeah I always clean em out
03:18 tonsofpcs the sony protocol (Vsomething) ones?
03:19 Cprossu before finding what the problem is lol
03:19 Cprossu tonsofpcs the security cameras
03:19 Cprossu I think we have phillips, costar, and a few other ptz's
03:19 Cprossu protocol wise idk
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03:19 Ponko Cprossu what should I DO
03:20 tonsofpcs there was one he (cap'n) said the protocol name on the video.... is that the one?
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03:22 yNos tonsofpcs: i am not sure which ones.. the ones with ptz that live in a bubble :P
03:22 tonsofpcs yNos: if it's the sony protocol, I think 20 can be on a line
03:22 tonsofpcs addressable, but I forget how.  We have protocol docs.
03:22 yNos how long of a line?
03:22 tonsofpcs 485? idk, 1000'?
03:23 yNos i dont know, i was just bumbling throught the ZoneMinder docs
03:23 tonsofpcs depends how well you balance it ;)
03:27 masterofmonks Quick who is less lazy at math than I am?
03:27 sndwrx I have some experience wiring Sony cameras, but I used RS422.
03:27 astro73|alice google.
03:27 tonsofpcs wolfram alpha
03:28 tonsofpcs http://pro.sony.com/bbsc/ssr/product-RMBR300/ iis what we use for one
03:28 BotSteve Title: Sony Product Detail Page RMBR300
03:29 sndwrx That's the same controller I used.
03:29 sndwrx With BRC300 cameras.
03:29 tonsofpcs yup, we have one BRC300
03:29 tonsofpcs on a jib arm
03:29 sndwrx Sorry, BRCZ330, maybe.  I'd have to dig the manual out and see.
03:29 tonsofpcs finally, someone else who has at least touched SDI ;)
03:29 sndwrx Or my old docs.
03:30 tonsofpcs err, 700 might be the one we have
03:30 tonsofpcs whatever the first HDSDI one is
03:30 sndwrx Oh, yeah.  I put together a 3 camera 1080p studio in D.C. that's fully produced and operated from Orlando.
03:30 tonsofpcs one FM on site?
03:31 sndwrx The remote control unit lived in Orlando and communicated with the cameras through the 'net.
03:31 sndwrx FM?
03:31 tonsofpcs SM/FD
03:31 tonsofpcs Floor manager
03:31 sndwrx Nope.
03:31 sndwrx Just talking heads in front of the cameras.
03:31 tonsofpcs VISCA! that's what it's called
03:32 tonsofpcs and yea, it's 422/232 not 485
03:32 sndwrx Absolutely everything was operated from Orlando.
03:32 sndwrx The studio and talking heads were in Washington, D.C.
03:32 tonsofpcs who mics the talent? who fixes problems?
03:33 sndwrx Fortunately most everything was streamlined enough that there are no problems.
03:33 masterofmonks Ok, 165 degrees.
03:33 sndwrx At anyrate, everything runs through (blech) a Tricaster, so all adjustments could be made from the producing studio.
03:34 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: is that the question or the answer?
03:34 sndwrx HD-SDI through some BlackMagic equipment, into the Tricaster, then into Teradeks.
03:34 tonsofpcs sndwrx: it could be worse.
03:34 masterofmonks tonsofpcs The answer.
03:34 tonsofpcs not much, but still ;)
03:35 sndwrx The Teradeks sent the streams down to the production facility.
03:35 masterofmonks First I had to figure out how to talk to wolfram alpha about the question.
03:35 sndwrx tonsofpcs: Well, unfortunately we tried several video switches with network control ability, but couldn't get clean takes.
03:36 sndwrx It turned out the video engineer had us using video hubs as opposed to switches.
03:36 sndwrx We had to get the job finished, and the Tricaster had some nice features.. So we made a judgement call and went with it
03:36 masterofmonks I wonder is Noise_Marine is around.
03:37 tonsofpcs video hubs?
03:37 Noise_Marine ?
03:37 sndwrx It was pretty fun to work on though.
03:37 tonsofpcs yNos: looks like there should be addressable dips on the bottom, 0-7 can be set.
03:37 tonsofpcs so 8..
03:37 sndwrx tonsofpcs: Yeah, multiple inputs and outputs configurable for different functions and switching.  But not synced so doesn't make clean takes between video sources.
03:38 tonsofpcs a router?
03:38 sndwrx tonsofpcs: yNos Yes, you configure the address and 232/422 settings with the dip switches.  Bear in mind, the tx and rx are backwards from what you may expect according to documentation.  that was a hitch I ran into with that equipment.
03:39 sndwrx tonsofpcs: Yeah, that's what I meant.  I'm not a video engineer.
03:39 sndwrx Or actually no, one of the devices I worked with was called a hub.
03:39 sndwrx It was a BlackMagic somethingHub.
03:39 sndwrx MicroVideoHub?
03:39 tonsofpcs remember when I said it could have been worse?
03:40 tonsofpcs yea, that :)
03:40 sndwrx Yup, Micro VideoHub.
03:40 tonsofpcs (i mean, it could have been an atem too .....)
03:40 sndwrx Well it seemed pretty slick to me, but like I said a) I'm no video engineer and b) we couldn't get clean switching from it.
03:40 astro73|mal is there a database that lets me perform very complex queries over a list of objects?
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03:41 sndwrx We also had a BlackMagic card cage and a few converter cards, as well as a couple AJA converters.
03:41 masterofmonks So that I have someone check behind me. http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=triangle+sides+2%2C7.75%2C8
03:41 BotSteve Title: triangle sides 2,7.75,8 - Wolfram|Alpha
03:41 yNos sndwrx backwards? tx talks to tx?
03:41 tonsofpcs someone had a very tight budget
03:41 sndwrx yNos: I wish I had my notes right in front of me.  I do have a couple notebooks here, hang on.
03:42 tonsofpcs sndwrx, yNos: 422 != 232 != 485
03:42 yNos right..
03:42 tonsofpcs it's a diffferential connection
03:42 yNos oh
03:42 tonsofpcs not really tx/rx, but they call it that.
03:42 sndwrx yNos: But yeah, iirc it was backwards from what you may expect.  And I'm sure you already know, but I found it easiest to get things working one camera at a time because of its backward-ness.
03:42 * yNos *facepalm*
03:43 * tonsofpcs points to the wikipedia article on 422
03:43 sndwrx i may even still have the test cables I built for the test run, but I'm pretty sure they were left in FL.
03:43 tonsofpcs actually!
03:43 sndwrx One complication I had was to run the 422 through the internet via Teradeks, though.
03:43 masterofmonks Better, http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=triangle+sides+7.75%2C8%2C2 Coming from a flat plane perpendicular to the side with a value of 2 would require a 165 degree angle to be on both surfaces?
03:43 BotSteve Title: triangle sides 7.75,8,2 - Wolfram|Alpha
03:43 tonsofpcs yNos: ddo you have a copy of the jupiter/saturn docs?
03:44 yNos nope
03:44 tonsofpcs darn
03:44 Cprossu sndwrx: that sounds click
03:44 tonsofpcs there's a 422 and a 485 explanation in there
03:44 tonsofpcs sndwrx: that's easy (relative to setting up the BMD stuff)
03:44 tonsofpcs ;)
03:44 Cprossu Tricaster's are fucking tits though sndwrx
03:44 * yNos goes back to zm
03:45 tonsofpcs zm?
03:45 yNos Zone Minder
03:45 Cprossu sndwrx that reminds me about how horrifying MPK is
03:45 BatSteve astro73|mal: first, create an abstraction layer that maps any database process onto a mathematical expression.  Then, use NumPY.
03:45 BatSteve (:
03:45 tonsofpcs anyway, a 422 daisy chain is wired in parrallel, not as repeaters
03:46 Cprossu 485 'like' one way and 422 'like' the other way sndwrx.
03:46 astro73|alice BatSteve: I was just looking at the stats generated by PISG. It's.... daunting
03:46 Cprossu so yNos how goes the install?
03:47 Cprossu tonsofpcs I can find one of those docs
03:47 sndwrx aha
03:47 tonsofpcs Cprossu: one of what?
03:47 sndwrx Okay I have at least one note sheet here from it.
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03:47 sndwrx Another channel or pm, yNos ?
03:47 Cprossu the one page that had the rs422 vs rs485 explanation
03:48 y007ghg7- Cprossu, downloading
03:48 Cprossu granted I just found other documentation instead
03:48 Cprossu http://www.grassvalley.com/docs/Manuals/routers/jupiter/071-8305-03.pdf
03:49 Cprossu this is what I was looking for though
03:49 Cprossu http://www.evertz.com/resources/7707DT-mpk.pdf
03:49 tonsofpcs Cprossu: the one that shows the wiring of mainframes and switchers and other devices
03:49 Cprossu yeah go second link
03:49 yNos anyone know the debian equif of pkg_info?
03:49 yNos need to list files that came with an install
03:49 Cprossu apt-get?
03:49 yNos like.. wtf came with the zoneminder install..
03:49 yNos apt-get?
03:49 tonsofpcs also note: you're probably just sending to the cameras, you only need Rx hooked up at them and proper termination at the end.
03:50 * Toastdude feels like crap...
03:50 tonsofpcs yNos: dpkg info or somesuch
03:50 masterofmonks Toastdude: ill?
03:50 tonsofpcs dpkg -I
03:50 tonsofpcs errr, sorry, you want contents
03:50 tonsofpcs dpkg -c
03:50 Toastdude Braces...
03:50 masterofmonks Toastdude: Well at least you have them.
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03:51 Toastdude Yep, that is good...
03:51 Toastdude And the pain'll go away in a few days
03:51 Toastdude BatSteve!
03:51 Cprossu I may have to leave in a few moments (relative blew out a tire)
03:51 Cprossu but I'll stay here as long as I can
03:52 BatSteve Toastdude!
03:52 Toastdude .seen wannabe1987
03:52 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe1987 1.82 hours ago at 2011-11-23 02:02:41 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:52:04 UTC
03:52 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
03:52 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
03:52 sndwrx yNos: dpkg --info [package.name]
03:52 sndwrx ACtually I suppose it depends on how you installed it.
03:53 sndwrx Obviously if you don't have a .deb package or something, that command isn't going to be much use.
03:53 yNos foind it once i read the dpkg man page, thanks for the pointer.
03:54 sndwrx otherwise you can "apt-get -s install [packagename]"
03:54 sndwrx the -s runs the installation process in simulation.
03:54 tonsofpcs oh, hmm
03:55 tonsofpcs yNos: looks like the VISCA stuff is wired so that you can daisy-chain "through"
03:55 tonsofpcs http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=rs-422%20daisy%20chain&source=web&cd=14&ved=0CEoQFjADOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.globalstreams.com%2Fsupport%2Ftechdocs%2FBRC-300_Connection_Documentation.pdf&ei=zGzMTs_oOaT20gGkt-TpDw&usg=AFQjCNGosdOpzd50e2Vaipe2tdRYT8enTA
03:55 sndwrx Yeah, you wire it from camera 1, to 2, to 3, etc.
03:55 Ponko who's amped for the turkey day game?
03:55 sndwrx Each camera has a wide, green, set-screw terminal block.
03:56 sndwrx I forget how many pins.  10, maybe?
03:56 Ponko JVC or Nikon
03:56 tonsofpcs 8.
03:56 tonsofpcs see link
03:56 sndwrx I'm still looking for my documentation.  This was last December that I worked on it.
03:56 tonsofpcs sndwrx: someone did it for you ^^ ;)
03:57 NeWtoz-phone Turkey day game!
03:57 sndwrx Right, but the documentation was slightly misleading, which is why I rewrote it in my own notes.
03:58 Ponko NeWtoz that's the topic on tgg:sports
03:58 Cprossu how come broadcast and security documentation is always so misleading tonsofpcs and sndwrx and egrsteve?
03:58 tonsofpcs Cprossu: to keep me employed
03:58 sndwrx I have the schematic from the remote Teradek to the three cameras, but that's it so far.
03:59 Cprossu tonsofpcs and indeed it does.
03:59 tonsofpcs now where do I send thhis consulting bill, yNos ?
03:59 sndwrx Pins 1, 2, 3 and 4 on camera 1 connect to pins 8, 9, 6 and 7, respectively.
03:59 tonsofpcs ;)
03:59 tonsofpcs sndwrx: see link ^
03:59 sndwrx oops.  connected to camera 2.
03:59 sndwrx Same configuration for camera 2 to 3.
04:00 sndwrx okay okay i'm looking at it.  :P
04:00 Cprossu tonsofpcs: When I asked, the bill gets emailed priority 1 to /dev/null
04:00 sndwrx ha.
04:00 sndwrx Yep.
04:00 Cprossu I still haven't heard back ^_^
04:00 sndwrx tonsofpcs: I didn't realize that's what you had linked to.  I thought it was just another manual, or something.
04:00 sndwrx haha.
04:00 tonsofpcs like I said, someone did it for you ;)
04:00 * Katemonster pokes batsteve
04:01 tonsofpcs Cprossu: did you ask for terms?
04:01 sndwrx Same as my info, at least at a glance, except better looking than the only notes I've found so far.
04:01 Cprossu tonsofpcs: heck I asked for a retainer too I think
04:01 tonsofpcs lol
04:01 tonsofpcs the retainer is provided by irc.freenode.net
04:01 tonsofpcs in the form of chats.
04:01 tonsofpcs about weird crap like VISCA
04:02 Cprossu I like retainers that come in paper and ink form
04:02 tonsofpcs yNos: there's a one-sheet from sony with dip switch settings for all their visca cameras, too
04:02 * BatSteve pokes Katemonster
04:02 Cprossu of the cashable variety
04:02 tonsofpcs Cprossu: won't that make it hard for them to align your teeth?
04:02 tonsofpcs anyway, gotta be up early tomorrow to clean and then paint
04:02 Cprossu my teeth?! allignable?
04:02 tonsofpcs Cprossu: retainer!
04:03 Cprossu nah my teeth are more hole than teeth
04:03 sndwrx Thanks for the help tonsofpcs.  I doubt I'll ever need the info again, but I'm adding this doc you linked to my existing camera docs.
04:04 tonsofpcs sony probably has similar inn the anycast docs
04:04 tonsofpcs anyway, nap time
04:04 tonsofpcs g'nite
04:05 sndwrx I never got to work with an Anycast but they had briefly entertained using it for the studio.
04:05 sndwrx night tonsofpcs
04:05 tonsofpcs i switched one 3 hour event on an anycast
04:05 sndwrx The company I was working with used them quite a bit in the past, but of course they had people there to physically operate it too.
04:06 Cprossu oh tonsofpcs
04:06 Cprossu I have to show you something sad
04:06 * Katemonster pokes exor674
04:06 Cprossu you know how wood 8 is really big in MI?
04:06 * exor674 bites karmicthreat
04:06 exor674 Katemonster
04:06 Katemonster ha!
04:06 Katemonster once again, karmic is my human shield.
04:07 exor674 bite me
04:07 * Katemonster bites exor674 on the ear
04:07 Toastdude Kate!
04:07 Katemonster toast!
04:07 exor674 kinky
04:07 Cprossu damn.
04:07 Toastdude Lol exor
04:08 Cprossu BotSteve: tell tonsofpcs look at your PM.
04:08 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
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04:15 Ponko TOASTY
04:15 Ponko BatSteve
04:15 BatSteve ponko!
04:16 Ponko my main man
04:16 Ponko go run over to that thing about 56 yards away for me
04:16 BatSteve hey no problem good buddy!
04:16 * BatSteve runs yonder
04:17 * Ponko steps back waits till he's 23 yards away
04:17 Toastdude PONKY
04:17 * Ponko launches a bomb 56 yards down
04:18 Ponko BotSteve will he catch it
04:18 BotSteve Maybe
04:18 NeWtoz-phone Hopefully not a farve 56 yarder
04:18 Ponko no
04:18 Ponko a Ponko 56 yarder
04:19 NeWtoz-phone So definitely intercepted
04:19 Ponko it's the same thing but british and we talk about it whilst it happens
04:19 * Ponko thinks that balls been airbourne awhile
04:20 NeWtoz-phone Should be a punter
04:20 * Ponko scratches his beard
04:20 Ponko i am actually LMAO
04:20 NeWtoz-phone Lions meed one :(
04:21 Ponko i used to have to punt circular footballs once
04:21 Ponko but i had to catch them before hand
04:21 Toastdude Ponko, that's the third time you've lost it today!
04:21 Ponko lost what
04:22 Ponko i don't think i ever had it to lose
04:22 BatSteve :]
04:22 * BatSteve pulls it in
04:22 BatSteve Looks like he wasn't even working for that one
04:22 * Ponko looks at his watch
04:22 Toastdude Ponko: You lost your ass. You laughed so hard it fell off.
04:22 Ponko that took a while to come down
04:23 Toastdude :P
04:23 Ponko but 3 times how did you come up with that
04:23 Toastdude Idk...
04:23 Toastdude Why?
04:23 BatSteve Ponko: helium filled football
04:24 Ponko it did feel light
04:24 Toastdude No, Hydrogen football
04:25 Ponko i thought i hurt my arms holding
04:25 Ponko but when i let it go it just flew
04:25 * Toastdude goes away now..
04:25 Cheezmo sulphur hexafluoride football? :D
04:25 Toastdude :D
04:25 Cheezmo likely hurt to kick :P
04:25 Toastdude Radon football!
04:25 Ponko hmmm that wouldn't of gotten far at all
04:25 Toastdude Ununoctnium football
04:26 * Ponko imagines what throwing a ball filled with that would feel like
04:26 astro73|alice very heavy, followed by death.
04:26 Toastdude It'd be kinda painful...
04:26 Toastdude With all the radiation and whatnot
04:26 Ponko if you can launch one of those babies 60 yards
04:27 Ponko imagine throwing a normal one after
04:27 yNos erm.. waht capture pallette? GREY?
04:27 yNos Cprossu:
04:27 yNos egrsteve:
04:27 Ponko 10x times DENSER than air?
04:27 Ponko 600 yards?
04:27 Ponko damn umm idk if that would be flagged for intentional grounding
04:28 Cprossu yes I am still here yNos
04:28 NeWtoz-phone Not if he is out if the pocket
04:28 Ponko that's a very interesting idea
04:28 Cprossu hello yNos what's up?
04:29 Ponko well you'd smash someones car thats for sure
04:29 Ponko in your case tear through the roof
04:29 yNos am bumbling through, think i found a diff issue..
04:29 yNos Cprossu: ^
04:29 Cprossu listening
04:29 Cprossu --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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04:30 yNos am thinking i should have installed a ui of some sort.
04:30 yNos so i can test video..
04:30 yNos now i am installing vlc.
04:30 Ponko what fun that would be
04:30 Cprossu can you install fluxbox yNos?
04:30 Cprossu that's rather lightweight
04:30 NeWtoz_ xfce
04:31 Ponko eh?
04:31 yNos i have to install X
04:31 yNos ;)
04:31 yNos i would use fluxbox if anything.
04:31 Cprossu or you could just stream it out
04:31 Cprossu I would too, I like fluxbox =P
04:31 yNos that is what i am getting to..
04:31 yNos installing vlc so i can stream it to another machine.
04:32 astro73|alice lightweight guis? Mine's wmii
04:32 Ponko Cprossu what would you do if you saw someone throw an American Football.........
04:32 yNos after i wait a week for my crappy interweb deesell to catchup
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04:32 sndwrx I like AWM.
04:32 sndwrx (awesome)
04:33 Ponko but it was filled with sulphur hexafluoride
04:33 Ponko and not only that Cprossu he throws THAT ball 60+ yards
04:34 Cprossu meh
04:35 yNos Ponko, where are you from?
04:35 Ponko Luton england
04:35 yNos why do you gaf about american football?
04:36 Ponko because i love it
04:36 Ponko what do you love?
04:36 yNos have been forcefed it all my life and cant stand it..
04:36 yNos i dont understand how someone from another country could get into it..
04:36 Ponko that's fair enough everyone has there opinons
04:37 yNos i barely see the draw myself..
04:37 yNos what do you find is the draw?
04:37 Ponko the fact that it's a spin off from rugby
04:37 yNos you like watching the men run around in tight pants?
04:38 Ponko they played football like that over here in the 80's like that
04:38 * NeWtoz_ was one of those men once
04:38 yNos rugby i can respect, people dont wear pads - men are men.
04:39 sndwrx Yeah, seems to me like that's some serious clobbering in rugby.
04:39 Ponko they have cauliflower ears
04:39 sndwrx NeWtoz_: You were a football player?
04:39 sndwrx ha.
04:39 sndwrx cauliflower ear.
04:39 NeWtoz_ In high school
04:39 * sndwrx nods.
04:40 sndwrx I never played sports aside from gym class.
04:40 NeWtoz_ cauliflower ear was wrestling
04:40 sndwrx Yeah, generally.
04:40 Ponko that's pretty much rugby too
04:40 sndwrx Or boxing.
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04:40 NeWtoz_ I even wrestled for a bit too
04:41 Ponko well i did do Ninjutsu
04:41 sndwrx I did Tang Soo Do.
04:41 sndwrx Or however it's spelled.
04:41 NeWtoz_ I watched Karate Kid a few times
04:41 Ponko but i had to give it up for NUCIE
04:41 sndwrx Did that for a few months in sixth grade, ha.
04:41 sndwrx NUCIE?
04:42 Ponko say it to yourself
04:42 Ponko spell it out if you want
04:43 sndwrx At the risk of seeming dull and becoming fodder..
04:43 sndwrx I still don't get it, ha.
04:43 NeWtoz_ I also watched some episodes of Walker Texas Ranger
04:43 sndwrx I'm about to hit the sack though.  I'm whooped.
04:43 * NeWtoz_ doesn't get it either
04:45 NeWtoz_ wookie
04:47 Ponko anyway move along
04:49 NeWtoz_ boring night at work
04:49 NeWtoz_ so I get extra long breaks
04:49 Cprossu lol
04:50 egrsteve hmm, find movie to watch or reread LOTR?
04:50 egrsteve any thoughts
04:51 NeWtoz_ I have been reading summaries of the earlier books of the A Song of Ice and Fire series
04:51 NeWtoz_ still have to read the 5th book yet
04:51 NeWtoz_ guess I could do that
04:51 Ponko egrsteve i think i've added you on fb but not sure if you got the add my fb is playing up at the moment
04:52 egrsteve idk, i don't check them often
04:52 Cprossu I am hungry.
04:52 NeWtoz_ hi hungry
04:52 egrsteve eat food
04:52 BatSteve eat bacon
04:52 Ponko lol it's no bother but my fb does some crazy thing sometimes
04:52 egrsteve mmm BACON
04:52 Ponko eat beef
04:53 Ponko egrsteve a bacon and fried egg sandwich is what is needed here
04:53 egrsteve don't make me hungry too
04:54 Ponko i'm not but i don't have the former ingredient :(
04:54 astro73|mal .log
04:54 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
04:54 Ponko BatSteve if i set myself to ignore myself would it appear on chat?
04:54 Ponko what i say i mean
04:54 BatSteve no, ignore is client-local
04:54 Ponko hmmm
04:55 Ponko would anyone else see what i said though or would it only appear on log
04:56 Toastdude Night all
04:56 Ponko bloody hell 7 days till i can shave
04:56 Ponko cya
04:56 Ponko TOASTY
04:56 astro73|mal ... the log only shows joins, not parts?
04:57 Toastdude Parts, but not quits
04:57 Toastdude I think...
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04:57 Ponko no i meant ignore
04:57 Ponko if noone could see what i was saying on chat but then going through the log they COULD see what i said
04:58 * Ponko stops before he confuses himself further
04:58 egrsteve i think the log pulls from what people see
04:59 Ponko interesting idea but if works i doubt it
04:59 egrsteve ie it is a client that is voicless that logs
04:59 astro73|mal egrsteve, it logs parts but not quits. And neither joins nor parts appear in the plain text version
05:00 Ponko ok i'll try now
05:00 egrsteve hmm
05:00 egrsteve interesting
05:01 Ponko BatSteve how do you ignore
05:01 Ponko is it /ignore <username>
05:01 BatSteve usually it's /ignore druidic_rifleman
05:01 BatSteve I mean, /ignore <username>
05:01 Ponko haha lol
05:02 Ponko doesn't work i can't ignore myself
05:03 Ponko it works on JTV lol
05:03 Ponko what was the stream on before JustinTV
05:03 sndwrx http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/sys/2716585659.html
05:03 BotSteve Title: Security cameras
05:03 sndwrx haha
05:04 Ponko egrsteve you know?
05:04 BatSteve Ponko: before justin it was...uh.....
05:04 BatSteve oh
05:04 BatSteve ustream
05:04 Ponko ahh yes
05:04 BatSteve and before THAT it was justin again
05:05 Ponko lol Ustream should of been AdStream
05:07 Ponko wow i never thought i'd see the day where someone would get booked for there hairstyle
05:08 sndwrx Are they arresting hipsters now?
05:08 Ponko booked meaning getting a yellow card in soccer for those unaware
05:08 Ponko so no
05:09 sndwrx drat.
05:09 * sndwrx chuckles.
05:09 Ponko lol
05:10 * IIsi50MHz tries to convert the yellow card to a golden ticket, fails to enter Wonka's factory
05:10 Ponko right i'm gonna sleep now
05:11 Ponko be back in a few hours
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05:11 sndwrx haha golden ticket.
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05:19 Cprossu indeed ponko
05:19 Cprossu that was annoying
05:19 Cprossu lol
05:19 Cprossu so hrmmm
05:19 Cprossu so yNos... how's it lookin'?
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05:38 BatSteve okay, time to be done
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06:23 lwq1996 night everyone, im going to bed
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06:41 Av_Nekoroms mornings
06:42 Sgt_Lemming gut morgen, wie gehts?
06:45 astro73-bot In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 11-22-11 Transformers and Pens http://youtu.be/_KJ9ny5F2DU
06:45 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 11-22-11 Transformers and Pens - YouTube
06:45 Av_Nekoroms ha :) just checked and there was no blog :)
06:46 Av_Nekoroms maybe i was couple of seconds too early
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06:50 Seroster Oi folks
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06:59 pegasus rocket jumping in minecraft
06:59 pegasus what has science done
07:00 Sgt_Lemming ...?
07:00 Sgt_Lemming since when has minecraft had rockets?
07:01 pegasus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeEtwrUZ-0o -- mute it
07:01 BotSteve Title: Rocket Jumping In Minecraft - YouTube
07:03 Sgt_Lemming not exactly rockets, but anyway
07:06 pegasus they give a knockback effect in addition to damaging you. timing them with a jump lets you jump two blocks instead of one. it's not crazy heights, but it's as close as you're likely to get in minecraft
07:07 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 11-22-11 Transformers and Pens http://youtu.be/_KJ9ny5F2DU
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07:34 Seroster Oooooo
07:34 Seroster Now
07:34 Seroster How do I watch a 20min video in five minutes?
07:34 Seroster Screw it.
07:38 dr_jkl .
07:38 dr_jkl yNos: why do you have to be so fucking adorable
07:43 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsdnPlIvr1E
07:43 BotSteve Title: Monty Python - I'm a Lumberjack (Trystan Seven Dubstep Remix) - YouTube
07:43 Hackbat Fuck yes
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07:48 Cheezmo Hm, looks like the security camera computer's clock is 15 minutes ahead
07:55 MoxieMike__ it's been like that all day
07:55 egrsteve I will look into fixing that
07:57 egrsteve|away I hope it's not like setting the time an a VCR, that is best fixed with electrical tape
08:00 IIsi50MHz heh
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08:31 Seroster Oi.
08:31 Seroster Anyone there?
08:32 asnopus Jes
08:32 y007ghg7- m e and 64 other people are not here at the momeny
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08:47 Sgt_Lemming so... amusing one
08:47 killaway^zzZZ yes
08:47 Sgt_Lemming I just cut the casing off a usb stick I have for lols, there is no hole or clear area for an LED on the external casing, so no external sign of an LED
08:47 Sgt_Lemming but I just plugged it in sans case, and there is a super bright blue LED on the PCB :-P
08:51 Seroster Lol
08:51 Seroster Anything that looks like a reciever?
08:52 Sgt_Lemming no, why would there be?
08:52 Seroster It might be used to isolate the drive from the computer electrically
08:52 Seroster .w optocoupler
08:52 BotSteve "In electronics, an opto-isolator, also called an optocoupler, photocoupler, or optical isolator, is 'an electronic device designed to transfer electrical signals by utilizing light waves to provide coupling with electrical isolation between its input and output'." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optocoupler
08:52 Sgt_Lemming oh, opto-isolator?
08:52 Sgt_Lemming no, it's miles from the USB port
08:52 Sgt_Lemming also that would be hard at USB speeds
08:52 Seroster I didnt know there were miles in usb flashdrives =P
08:53 Seroster Isnt there a power feed and a few data feeds?
08:53 Seroster Maybe it isolates the power feed and doesnt care about data feed
08:53 Sgt_Lemming Vcc, D+, D- and Gnd
08:53 Seroster What is vcc?
08:53 Sgt_Lemming that wouldn't work Seroster
08:53 Seroster Crap, my theory has failed me
08:53 Sgt_Lemming Voltage Common Cathode/Circuit
08:54 Sgt_Lemming opto-isolating at USB2 speeds is hard
08:54 Sgt_Lemming because the LED's have their own turn on/off times
08:54 Sgt_Lemming so accounting for that is pretty hard
08:56 Seroster Odd.
08:56 Seroster I doubt it is thrown in there for the lulz.
08:56 Sgt_Lemming it's a standard drive activity LED, they probably use the same PCB for 50 different versions
08:57 Seroster Could it be that the factory could either buy a germanium diode or a LED, but they got a better price for the led?
08:58 Sgt_Lemming nah, like I said, I think it's just a case of they have a bunch of different drives and just differentiate them via the case
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09:00 y007ghg7- http://www.dorkly.com/video/27944/dorkly-bits-mario-responds-to-peta
09:00 BotSteve Title: Dorkly Bits: Mario Responds to PETA - Dorkly Video
09:01 Sgt_Lemming lol
09:04 WB1A2 Hahaha
09:05 asnopus lol silly PETA
09:14 Sgt_Lemming it's amusing that PETA are actually advertising about mario though
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09:21 Seroster Sgt_Lemming: Have you ever hacked a computer psu?
09:21 Sgt_Lemming as in used it for something other powering a computer?
09:21 asnopus Yep
09:22 Sgt_Lemming all. the. freaking. time
09:22 asnopus I managed to get a hold of a few old computer from school and made a rack of PSUs
09:23 [3]nertia How does that work? Hacking a PSU for other uses?
09:23 Seroster I've never got that crap to work
09:23 Seroster [3]nertia: A computer PSU only works if it gets a response from the motherboard
09:24 [3]nertia Yes, I'm aware of that
09:24 [3]nertia Hence why I'm so curious :)
09:24 Sgt_Lemming the "response" from the computer just consists of grounding a certain line
09:24 Sgt_Lemming so long as that line stays grounded, the PSU should stay powered up
09:24 [3]nertia You could easily do that with a simple switch, no?
09:24 Sgt_Lemming yup
09:24 [3]nertia Assuming you know which one to ground, heh
09:24 asnopus On the mobo connection you need to connect the green to a black so it can work outside of the computer.
09:24 Sgt_Lemming gimme a sec and I will show you a pic of something
09:24 [3]nertia Ooooh, pics <3
09:25 Seroster threenertia, green to ground and it SHOULD work
09:25 Seroster If you want to reset the psu you connect red to black =D
09:25 [3]nertia I'm so glad I wrote this script
09:26 [3]nertia It allows you to be lazy and type 'nertia' but allows it to appear as '3nertia' and it also highlights me >:D
09:26 Seroster Btw, NEVER connect black to red.
09:26 Seroster That releases the nice smelling blue smoke of science.
09:26 [3]nertia How is that different than connection red to black?
09:26 Sgt_Lemming yes Seroster, that is shorting 5v to gnd
09:26 [3]nertia connecting*
09:26 Seroster And when you release the blue smoke of science it kills stuff.
09:26 asnopus Well they should just turn off, but still dont do it
09:26 Seroster What is the 3.3v?
09:26 Seroster Yellow?
09:26 [3]nertia I think so
09:26 Sgt_Lemming on a computer PSU, red = 5v, yellow = 12v, 3.3v = orange
09:26 [3]nertia Oh, orange
09:26 Seroster Crud
09:27 Seroster Orange to black resets it then
09:27 [3]nertia Damn, I'm glad I wasn't poking around
09:27 [3]nertia PSUs are a treasure trove of components
09:27 * [3]nertia disassembled one for that purpose
09:27 [3]nertia Two trim pots :D
09:28 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/ModdedPSU#5678120616659062322 <--- that was the PSU I used for a sculpture I was contracted to do the elctronics for
09:28 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming Dixon - Modded PSU
09:28 Seroster Two big nice smoothing caps
09:28 Sgt_Lemming Corsair HX650 PSU
09:28 Seroster A rectifier bridge that can handle mains
09:29 * [3]nertia strangles BotSteve
09:29 Seroster .cookie [3]nertia
09:29 BotSteve Here you go, [3]nertia, I baked you a peanut butter cookie!
09:29 Sgt_Lemming got the two PCIe GPU power connectors and cut the connectors off, seperated out the grounds and 12v lines and hooked em up to bus bars
09:29 [3]nertia :<
09:29 * [3]nertia is diabetic
09:30 [3]nertia Sgt_Lemming: Is that a modular psu?
09:30 [3]nertia Oh, nevermind lol
09:30 Seroster U got needles?!=D
09:30 [3]nertia Seroster: I take pills
09:30 Seroster Aww
09:30 [3]nertia Nice @-hat, by the way, Seroster
09:30 Seroster Tyvm, I can remove it if you want to
09:30 Seroster xD
09:31 [3]nertia It's fine, I'm not intimidated
09:32 Seroster BOOOH!
09:32 [3]nertia lol?
09:32 Seroster How about now?
09:32 [3]nertia Umm, no
09:32 angy .cookie Seroster
09:32 BotSteve Here you go, Seroster, I baked you an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie!
09:32 [3]nertia Mmmm, fiber^
09:32 * [3]nertia knows Sgt_Lemming from somewhere
09:32 Sgt_Lemming ...?
09:32 Sgt_Lemming I doubt that
09:33 Sgt_Lemming unless you live in Brisbane, Australia
09:33 [3]nertia I meant somewhere on irc
09:33 [3]nertia Some other channel ...
09:33 Sgt_Lemming i'm in a number of channels on this network, and I used to frequent oz.org but haven't been on there for over 2 years
09:34 [3]nertia Ever heard of 5709 or Shellium?
09:34 Sgt_Lemming nope
09:34 [3]nertia Hrm
09:34 [3]nertia Oh well
09:34 [3]nertia Another mystery of irc
09:35 Seroster DunDUN DUUUUN!
09:37 Seroster Where are you from [3]nertia?
09:38 [3]nertia Seroster: My physical location?
09:38 [3]nertia Like, where I live ...
09:38 Seroster Yes
09:38 Seroster "Vagina" would be an unsatisfying answer
09:38 [3]nertia Illinois, USA
09:38 [3]nertia Damn, that was gonna be my answer :(
09:39 Seroster Illinois? Is that far from michigan?
09:39 [3]nertia We share a great lake
09:39 [3]nertia Excuse me, Great Lake*
09:39 Seroster So thats a yes
09:39 [3]nertia Seroster: Where is your place of residence?
09:40 Seroster You are pretty close to the geek group hedquarters you bastard.
09:40 Seroster Sweden
09:40 [3]nertia There's a headquarters? :o
09:40 Seroster You know, moose and blondes.
09:40 [3]nertia Oooh, Sweden
09:40 Seroster Yes, there is.
09:40 Seroster .yt thegeekgroup
09:40 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.youtube.com/user/thegeekgroup
09:40 * [3]nertia can't stream video
09:40 Seroster Huge lab, old YMCA
09:41 [3]nertia Hrm
09:41 [3]nertia Wish I could afford travel
09:41 [3]nertia Are there events?
09:41 Seroster Put together just now, high voltage, high energy, worlds largest newtons cradle
09:41 Seroster There are events daily if you want
09:41 Seroster You can go there and build pretty much whatever you want
09:42 [3]nertia Much too far away though, I'm sure
09:42 Seroster Or learn to run a CNC mill, or a sheet router, or a robot, or... Yeah.
09:42 [3]nertia How large is the Newton's Cradle?
09:42 Seroster Its made of bowling balls.
09:42 [3]nertia lol
09:42 [3]nertia Cool
09:42 [3]nertia You say "CNC" *and* "robot" and I ask about the Newton's Cradle >_<
09:42 Seroster I know mythbusters broke the record, but that one didnt sustain itself for more than two beats, and it was tore down the day after. This newtons cradle is actually on display
09:42 Seroster LOL
09:43 [3]nertia lol
09:43 [3]nertia I was gonna mention Mythbusters but I figured you were already aware :)
09:43 [3]nertia And yes, that criteria is also why I didn't mention it
09:43 Seroster They even made a 17 part series on disassembling a KUKA robot for parts, and we are currently waiting for the rest of the "forklift autopsy"n
09:43 Seroster You should totally subscribe
09:45 [3]nertia These are videos, presumably?
09:45 Seroster Yes
09:46 Seroster There is an upcoming 500part series on how to run a cnc
09:46 Seroster There is also a forum, and this irc
09:46 [3]nertia Bah, I can't stream videos on this box :<
09:46 Seroster I assume you have another computer?
09:47 [3]nertia No, my mom does >_>
09:48 Seroster how old are you?
09:49 [3]nertia I plead the fifth :)
09:49 * [3]nertia doesn't wanna get harassed or teased for living with his mother @_@
09:49 Seroster Lol
09:49 Seroster So, 54?
09:49 [3]nertia :<
09:49 Seroster Living with your mom, beer gut, unshaven, mustard stained wife beater?
09:50 [3]nertia No, but you have one digit right :)
09:50 [3]nertia Ewww, no
09:50 [3]nertia I don't eat mustard xD
09:50 Seroster Lol
09:50 Seroster 14?
09:50 Seroster 15?
09:50 Seroster 25?
09:50 Seroster 24?
09:50 [3]nertia I don't wear "wife beaters" either
09:50 [3]nertia Bingo!
09:50 Seroster Lol
09:50 [3]nertia And beer is also gross therefore I do not consume that either
09:50 Seroster But you DO have a beer gut and a wild beard?
09:50 [3]nertia I am fat and unshaven though
09:51 Seroster My keyboard gremlin wanted me to say "wild bear"
09:51 [3]nertia lol
09:51 Seroster I think my subconcious is fucking with me.
09:51 Seroster So, wich one did you bingo me on?
09:52 [3]nertia The last one
09:52 [3]nertia I'm 24. How old are you?
09:55 Seroster 19
09:56 [3]nertia Ah
09:56 * [3]nertia guessed correctly x]
09:56 Seroster ...You bastard
09:56 Seroster =P
09:56 [3]nertia I was thinking 19-21
09:56 Seroster 12-58.
09:56 Seroster I guessed correctly about you too
09:56 [3]nertia :/
09:57 Seroster Damn im skilled
09:57 [3]nertia If I'm still living with my mom when I'm 58 .....
09:57 [3]nertia Kill me
09:57 Seroster Crazier shit has happeend
09:57 [3]nertia Actually, if she's still alive when I'm 58, kill her
09:57 Seroster xD
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10:01 Seroster Lunch time right about now
10:01 [3]nertia I'm not telling you "later" on this channel too :/
10:01 Seroster Aww
10:01 [3]nertia Later, Seroster
10:02 [3]nertia (again)
10:02 y007ghg7- http://www.amazon.com/Defense-Technology-56895-Stream-Pepper/dp/B0058EOAUE/ lolol
10:03 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Defense Technology 56895 MK-9 Stream, 1.3% Red Band/1.3% Blue Band Pepper Spray: Sports & Outdoors
10:03 y007ghg7- read the reviews
10:03 * [3]nertia stabs BotSteve to death with a titanium spork
10:03 [3]nertia Hold on, I'm busy
10:08 Seroster Isnt lunch for another hours
10:10 [3]nertia y007ghg7-: The fuck?
10:11 y007ghg7- people are making fun of the protest raid the cops did
10:11 [3]nertia Oh
10:11 [3]nertia I totally missed that >_<
10:13 Sgt_Lemming http://tinyurl.com/6pqrfr2 <--- found our round end siren for robot wars :-P
10:13 BotSteve Title: VINTAGE ELECTRIC 12 VOLT AIR RAID ROTORY SIREN FOR CARS TRUCK HOTRODS LOWRIDEERS | eBay
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10:14 [3]nertia Ffs
10:14 [3]nertia Is BotSteve ever actually useful?
10:14 [3]nertia I think the bot is going on ignore :/
10:14 Sgt_Lemming yes
10:14 Sgt_Lemming he is
10:14 Sgt_Lemming just because you don't like it
10:15 sbp I'd turn automatic titling off
10:15 Sgt_Lemming sbp?
10:15 sbp a bot should only answer when spoken to, like a child
10:15 [3]nertia sbp: If you're being serious, I agree
10:15 sbp I did think once about having whitespace title-invoking syntax
10:15 [3]nertia I don't agree about the child thing though
10:15 Sgt_Lemming the link titling is kinda handy, just ebay links tend to have obnoxiously long/captilized titles
10:15 sbp e.g. adding two spaces after a link makes the bot give the title
10:15 sbp so "uri  " gives a title, "uri" doesn't
10:16 [3]nertia What sort of bot is BotSteve?
10:16 sbp well, it could also detect capitalised titles and then .lower() them
10:16 Sgt_Lemming ask BatSteve-Away or astro73|alice
10:16 sbp if it goes over a certain threshold of caps
10:16 Sgt_Lemming they both work on it lots
10:16 sbp it's a modified phenny bot
10:17 sbp personally I don't mind CAPS ON IRC, but I think the manual invoking is an important design principle in a large channel
10:17 sbp (actually, even just one space after the link might be reasonable. who puts spaces after links normally anyway?)
10:18 [3]nertia sbp: Depends on where in the sentence the link is
10:18 sbp oh, I'd turn it off completely for links in the middle of sentences
10:18 WB1A2 Seems like a rather smart thing, him reading the title.. Could identify NSFW items before you click on it, as an example.
10:19 sbp assuming then that the sentence gives the context
10:19 [3]nertia WB1A2: That's extremely subjective
10:19 [3]nertia But I would use a trigger for titling
10:19 sbp as it did in this case: <Sgt_Lemming> http//tinyurl.com/6pqrfr2 <--- found our round end siren for robot wars :-P
10:20 [3]nertia I don't usually care about the title of link unless there's no context and it's just posted randomly
10:21 [3]nertia In which case, I'd prefer to *ask* the bot
10:21 sbp which you should be able to do using .title
10:21 sbp though that's probably been turned off since it automatically titles. but this would happen:
10:21 sbp <Sgt_Lemming> http//tinyurl.com/6pqrfr2 <--- found our round end siren for robot wars :-P
10:21 sbp <[3]nertia> .title
10:21 sbp <BotSteve> Title: VINTAGE ELECTRIC 12 VOLT AIR RAID ROTORY SIREN FOR CARS TRUCK HOTRODS LOWRIDEERS | eBay
10:21 sbp <[3]nertia> AAARGH, I HATE CAPS
10:22 [3]nertia :/
10:22 sbp hehe
10:22 [3]nertia I don't hate caps, you're misreading my hatred :<
10:22 Sgt_Lemming I think it won't repeat the same link title inside a certain time frame
10:22 sbp but you see what I mean. post hoc commands
10:23 sbp BotSteve: tell BatSteve http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/2011-11-23#i_4746694 for bot discussion
10:24 BotSteve sbp: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
10:24 BotSteve Title: IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-11-23
10:24 sbp ...heh
10:25 [3]nertia There, I fixed the problem *my* way
10:26 [3]nertia BotSteve!*@* added to ignore list.
10:26 BotSteve [3]nertia!
10:26 [3]nertia Heh
10:26 sbp http://tinyurl.com/cdsmnak
10:26 BotSteve Title: so now you can't see when the bot calls you a complete arseface, 3nertia?
10:26 WB1A2 Hahah
10:26 Sgt_Lemming fscking lol!
10:27 sbp <3 irc
10:28 [3]nertia I don't care when the bot calls me "a complete arseface" :)
10:29 [3]nertia And clearly this channel is too juvenile
10:30 [3]nertia Let's all harass the new guy because he don't like bots spewing information he didn't ask for
10:30 [3]nertia Har har
10:30 angy I'm quite on your side [3]nertia on that one
10:31 [3]nertia angy: How so?
10:31 [3]nertia angy: Oh, the "only show me titles when I ask for them" thing?
10:31 angy yeah
10:31 [3]nertia Heh
10:32 angy and more, the bot info only when asked, and eventually not on the channel but on pm depending on the request
10:32 [3]nertia angy: How do you feel about notices? Heh
10:32 angy I filter heavily my reading =)
10:32 [3]nertia No one agrees on what they want from a bot, that's why I stopped running one, heh
10:32 [3]nertia angy: I just asked because I prefer notices over PM for bot output
10:33 angy the only bots I ever build are fun bots =)
10:33 [3]nertia I like so-called "info-bots"
10:33 angy I prefer notices by email or by pm
10:33 [3]nertia But only when *I* _ask_ for information lol
10:33 angy I like useless bots
10:33 angy .cookie [3]nertia
10:33 BotSteve Here you go, [3]nertia, I baked you a pecan cookie!
10:34 angy like that
10:34 sbp [3]nertia: no, I *completely* agree with you. I just think we should fix it in a sensible way too
10:34 sbp and /ignore is a good workaround until it's fixed across the board
10:34 [3]nertia sbp: Then why did you try to childishly exploit the fact that I put the bot on ignore? :/
10:35 sbp I assumed you'd look up the reason from the laughing
10:35 angy I went sideways with that one, I have an ignoring script depending on what the bot says
10:35 sbp if you didn't, I would have told you :-)
10:35 [3]nertia sbp: Of course I looked, but I already knew
10:35 [3]nertia I already knew it was something just to fuck with me because I have the bot on ignore
10:35 sbp there you go then, I didn't underestimate your intelligence, so no problem
10:35 sbp well, it was a joke :-)
10:35 killakee greetings
10:35 sbp I'm new here too
10:35 [3]nertia angy: I can't be arsed to write a script, heh
10:36 sbp I also wrote the original bot that this is modified from
10:36 [3]nertia angy: Is your script open source? =p
10:36 angy it could be, but you'll need to run the exact same IRC proxy as I am
10:36 angy which may be a pain
10:37 sbp the bot is open source too. you could send a patch taking out the automatic titling and putting a new titling framework in
10:37 [3]nertia angy: :S
10:37 sbp up on github, written in python. you'd only have to send a pull request
10:37 [3]nertia sbp: It's Python; no thank you :)
10:37 angy yeah, I know, my softwares are always a pain to run
10:37 sbp *rummage* https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve
10:37 BotSteve Title: Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve - GitHub
10:38 * [3]nertia notes not to buy software from angy
10:38 angy most of them are public domain somewhere
10:38 angy the big part of the useful ones are unreleased though
10:38 sbp what's your favourite scripting language? ruby?
10:39 sbp . o O ( nobody says perl these days )
10:39 [3]nertia Perl :)
10:39 angy C/PERL
10:39 sbp what do you think of perl6?
10:39 [3]nertia C is a programming language and does not count, angy
10:39 [3]nertia sbp: I don't see the point in it
10:39 angy you can script in C :p
10:39 angy it's a mind twist, but it can be done
10:39 [3]nertia angy: I don't think a "script" counts if it has to be compiled =p
10:40 angy heh. you got the point on that one :)
10:40 sbp the grammar system in perl6 is kind of nice if you're parsing a lot
10:41 angy I'm still perl5, did not yet looked into perl6
10:41 [3]nertia The thing is, if you try to use perl5 scripts with perl6 you're BOWNED
10:41 [3]nertia Totally different implementations; hence why I don't get the point of Perl6
10:42 sbp yep, they wanted to fix some things that couldn't be done without backwards incompatible breaking I suppose
10:42 [3]nertia Does Perl6 allow variable-length lookbehinds in regex?
10:42 sbp similar sort of thing with python3, only in the case of python3 they fixed insanely minor things that nobody really understands
10:42 sbp yep
10:42 sbp actually, wait
10:42 sbp let me chex
10:43 angy someone should run a bgp daemon in python26 then =)
10:43 sbp yes, I believe it does
10:44 sbp it says <?after pattern> and <?before pattern> and doesn't put any constraints on the patterns
10:45 [3]nertia Then I better understand why Perl5 and Perl6 are two different implementations of the same language
10:45 sbp see also http://dev.perl.org/perl6/rfc/72.html
10:45 BotSteve Title: Variable-length lookbehind. - dev.perl.org
10:45 [3]nertia And I *might* give 6 a whirl in the future
10:45 sbp perl6 also has partial input matching, which is yummy. i.e. "the input so far matches this regex, but does not satisfy it completely; more input may do so"
10:45 sbp great for regexing streaming input
10:46 sbp you don't have to keep reading and keep adding to the buffer and trying the whole regex again on the buffer
10:46 [3]nertia Does that considerably speed up pattern matching?
10:46 [3]nertia Oooh
10:46 sbp it speeds it up, but I guess the main point there is to keep memory consumption down
10:46 [3]nertia I still think it's absurd that Perl6 doesn't replace Perl5
10:46 [3]nertia If Perl6 is so much better and implements things I've been wanting for awhile
10:46 [3]nertia Re: variable-length lookbehinds
10:47 [3]nertia *That* sounds yummy
10:47 [3]nertia Ugh! What's the point in getting a Christmas present early if you can't play with it? D:
10:47 sbp yeah, I think there are a few things going on there though. some people want these new features, but some are happy with their large perl5 systems so perl5 is probably going to be around for a while anyway; so that the two have to exist side-by-side (which presumably wasn't envisioned when "perl6" as a name was decided upon)
10:48 sbp which Christmas present can't you play with? perl6? perl6 works for me
10:48 [3]nertia Oh, I understand it, I just think it's absurd
10:48 [3]nertia sbp: I got a Sony DVDirect
10:48 sbp yeah. I think they should have named it something better. dunno what though
10:48 [3]nertia perl-ng? xD
10:49 sbp oh, cool
10:49 sbp I think they did discuss it recently, but I can't remember the suggestions
10:49 killakee using my weatherstation computer as a live stream pc.. now i can watch the livestream and be on irc att the same time :)
10:49 sbp "camelia" was probably one of them, the name of the mascot
10:49 [3]nertia You can hook up a VCR to this DVDirect thing and go from VHS -> DVD without a computer
10:49 sbp yeah, that's pretty nice. I want to do my old cassettes too, looks like it supports that as well?
10:49 [3]nertia It has USB and media card input as well as composite audio/video
10:50 sbp what does it do when you put a cassette in? burn FLAC on the DVD or something? MP3?
10:50 [3]nertia No idea
10:50 [3]nertia Like I said, I can't play with it :(
10:50 sbp oh right, you can't play with it yet :-)
10:50 [3]nertia lol
10:50 [3]nertia What I'm most interested in is can I put a movie on a USB flash drive and burn to DVD
10:51 [3]nertia I imagine with it being Sony there's some pretty hefty copyright protection >_>
10:51 sbp why on a flash drive? run out of local hard drive space?
10:52 [3]nertia Well, I'd test computer -> DVD first
10:52 [3]nertia But I'm not sure that's gonna work
10:52 [3]nertia Unless the computer also has drivers that allow the audio/video stream to leave via usb
10:52 [3]nertia (assuming the DVDirect does)
10:53 [3]nertia If that fails, I'll see how it handles like an .avi on a flash drive -> dvd
10:53 sbp oh I see, you don't have a DVD drive on your computer?
10:53 [3]nertia I do but no good software :<
10:54 [3]nertia Nothing will burn .avi to dvd
10:54 sbp ah, weird. what about other formats?
10:54 [3]nertia I told my mom she should've bought Nero or Alcohol 120% instead >_>
10:54 sbp hehe
10:54 [3]nertia It gags when I try .mp4 as well
10:54 [3]nertia Haven't tried anything else
10:54 sbp bummer
10:54 sbp I thought Nero was free?
10:54 [3]nertia Linux is very finicky
10:55 [3]nertia For a demo version, perhaps
10:55 sbp I used to use that, I don't normally pay for things...
10:55 killakee no nero lite is
10:55 sbp ah, could be that
10:55 [3]nertia killakee: What can it do?
10:55 sbp I see
10:55 killakee one sec
10:57 killakee <[3]nertia>download nero ?
10:57 sbp I'm off for a bit now. [3]nertia: apologies again about the offence caused by the /ignore joke, but it was a joke about the perils of /ignore and certainly not about you. take it easy, and see ya!
10:57 killakee older versions are free
10:57 [3]nertia Later, sbp :)
10:58 killakee peace out sbp
11:07 [3]nertia killakee: Will that version run on Win7?
11:07 [3]nertia I would assume so but ya never know x]
11:07 killakee yes it will
11:08 killakee win7 runs everythin i have trown att it ..
11:08 [3]nertia I do like Windows 7
11:08 killakee but if you have problems do let me know
11:08 [3]nertia I think it's the best OS Microsoft has ever produced
11:08 [3]nertia Possibly the only good one >_>
11:08 masterofmonks People are awake now? What the heck is up with that?
11:08 killakee yes its the most stable for my part
11:09 killakee we are not in usa ;)
11:09 [3]nertia I am
11:09 [3]nertia <_<
11:09 killakee why on earth are you awake now ?
11:09 killakee :D
11:09 killakee 6:24
11:09 killakee ?
11:09 [3]nertia I'm an insomniac
11:09 masterofmonks I am because i am about to leave for work.
11:09 [3]nertia 5:04am
11:09 killakee ah
11:09 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: Timezones of doom.
11:09 [3]nertia I took a nap and woke up at ~1am
11:09 killakee jupp
11:10 masterofmonks I have to be at work at 0700.
11:10 [3]nertia Depression sucks ;_;
11:10 killakee <[3]nertia> : same here
11:10 [3]nertia Hrm, I wonder if you can create menus in that Nero
11:10 killakee depression and angsaity disorder
11:10 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: Dare I ask?
11:11 [3]nertia anxiety*
11:11 killakee yes..
11:11 [3]nertia Yes to?
11:11 [3]nertia lol
11:11 masterofmonks Monkeh: That is just the nature of the beast.
11:11 killakee im not english
11:11 [3]nertia Oh, lol
11:11 [3]nertia No biggie
11:11 [3]nertia It's a habit; if it becomes irritating, let me know :)
11:11 killakee hehe
11:11 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: Strange beast.
11:11 killakee never its a way i can lurn ;)
11:11 [3]nertia Beasts shall be slain
11:11 [3]nertia learn*
11:11 [3]nertia <_<
11:12 masterofmonks Monkeh: Welcome to manufacturing.
11:12 killakee Haha pwnd
11:12 masterofmonks I go to work at 0700 evert morning, and get off at 1500
11:12 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: That would explain it.
11:12 * [3]nertia is unemployed D:
11:13 killakee [3]nertia: same here and im 31 :/
11:13 killakee today
11:13 killakee :(
11:13 masterofmonks killakee: you have my condolences.
11:13 [3]nertia Happy birthday?
11:13 killakee thanks
11:13 [3]nertia I'm 24, unemployed and I live with my mother ;_;
11:13 killakee and thanks :)
11:13 masterofmonks I turn 31 in just under a month.
11:14 killakee you have my condolences too :)
11:14 killakee <[3]nertia> my father is my nigbour so
11:14 killakee :P
11:15 masterofmonks He is also his own grandpa.
11:15 * [3]nertia doesn't have a father
11:15 killakee ?
11:15 [3]nertia killakee: neighbor*
11:15 killakee what ?
11:15 [3]nertia He died when I was 9, heh
11:15 killakee :/
11:15 killakee not good
11:16 [3]nertia No biggie; I barely knew him
11:16 killakee i am a father my self ..
11:16 [3]nertia Aww
11:16 killakee to 2 girls 3 and 4
11:16 * [3]nertia has no children and expects never to have any children
11:17 killakee and why is that ?
11:18 [3]nertia I'd be a horrible father, heh
11:18 killakee dear god i got to clean up my music disk
11:18 [3]nertia lol?
11:18 killakee i have 5 terrabyte with just a mess :(
11:19 [3]nertia O_O
11:19 [3]nertia 5TB!?
11:19 killakee 6,4 actualy
11:19 asnopus Mother of god
11:19 [3]nertia That is too much music
11:19 [3]nertia You couldn't listen to all of that if you were listening for your entire life :/
11:19 killakee not when you are a dj
11:20 asnopus Ah well that explains it
11:20 [3]nertia Still too much
11:20 [3]nertia There are only 5 songs at a time most people listen to in "pop culture" lol
11:20 killakee i havent tryed an put it all in winamp and look how mutch hours it takes to play it all :D
11:21 killakee i had a internett radio station you c ;)
11:21 killakee HAD
11:21 killakee my old house burned down :/
11:21 killakee stuydio and all
11:21 [3]nertia tried*, much*, internet*, see*
11:21 [3]nertia That sux0rz
11:21 asnopus Shit
11:21 killakee hell yeah
11:21 asnopus that really sucks
11:22 [3]nertia My condolences
11:22 killakee house i lived in was over 130 years old
11:22 killakee never mind ;)
11:22 [3]nertia :o
11:22 killakee we where insured ..
11:22 [3]nertia Still, that's a hell of hassle
11:22 killakee so now i have new everything
11:22 killakee yeah
11:22 [3]nertia Especially getting the insurance company to pay for it
11:22 killakee YUEAH
11:23 [3]nertia But then again, you're not America, maybe you have a sane insurance company (doubtful)
11:23 killakee but it rather went well
11:23 killakee yeah no problems
11:23 killakee and YES i know how it is over there
11:23 killakee thank god its not here
11:23 [3]nertia :/
11:24 killakee but you are lucky ennyhow
11:24 killakee being a geek in norwayt sucks donkey b*****
11:24 killakee norway
11:24 killakee :P
11:25 [3]nertia anyhow*
11:25 killakee 172.97 dollar for a nst :(
11:26 killakee ARGH
11:27 [3]nertia Nst?
11:27 killakee neon sign transformer
11:28 killakee i build teslacoils
11:28 [3]nertia :S
11:28 killakee you know what a teslacoil is`?
11:29 [3]nertia I'm a 24 year old who lives with his mom that idles on channels such as #thegeekgroup and ##electronics ...
11:29 killakee point taken ;)
11:30 killakee you buikd ?
11:30 killakee build
11:30 [3]nertia Not yet
11:30 [3]nertia Waiting for my goodies
11:30 [3]nertia I ordered a bunch of electronics stuff
11:30 killakee waiting for what ?
11:31 killakee :)
11:31 [3]nertia I won't be doing much more than circuit assembly though as I don't have the space for a typical "build"
11:31 killakee now you got me interessted ;)
11:31 [3]nertia A solderless breadboard, a digital multimeter, two 555 timer ICs, two dual op-amp ICs, and a bunch of other miscellaneous
11:31 killakee bought all circuits ?
11:31 killakee ah
11:32 killakee yuo using a ignition coil ?
11:32 [3]nertia No
11:33 killakee building a driver circuit then ?
11:33 [3]nertia Nope
11:33 [3]nertia I'm just gonna play x]
11:33 killakee tips for you
11:33 killakee if you want it ?
11:33 [3]nertia Sure
11:34 [3]nertia I can't agree that I'll take them to heart though =p
11:35 killakee get a bugzapper abuote 2,5kv or more , get some high voltage capassitors, and wind a coil and so on..
11:35 killakee its the easyest way to make a coil..
11:35 killakee cheap to
11:35 [3]nertia I'm not making a Tesla coil =p
11:35 [3]nertia 2.5kV? Seriously? ;p
11:35 killakee to little ?
11:36 * [3]nertia should've ordered a couple electret microphones D:
11:36 killakee im up to 6 kv now
11:37 killakee or rather the nst is 6 kv
11:37 killakee god knows after the caps and all that
11:37 [3]nertia :S
11:37 [3]nertia I wonder, will Nero handle .mkv?
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11:38 killakee hi westmi
11:38 killakee i think so
11:38 killakee do you want it to convert something '?
11:38 killakee or just burn ?
11:39 killakee if you bant a burn all hardware : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjdW12fnUmc
11:39 BotSteve Title: CD burning with teslacoil - YouTube
11:39 killakee burns all
11:39 killakee XD
11:39 [3]nertia killakee: I want it to make it a dvd, playable on any dvd player
11:40 [3]nertia Is that a YouTube link to thermite? :o
11:40 killakee dvd daked divx
11:40 killakee no
11:40 killakee my old coil
11:40 [3]nertia Thermite burns all =p
11:40 killakee my channel
11:40 [3]nertia It would even burn your coil =p
11:40 killakee heh
11:40 [3]nertia What's the typical amperage on one of your coils?
11:41 killakee the last one is 511 whatts and 0,83amp
11:42 killakee take in mind that i just started coiling
11:42 killakee so i start slow and lurn as i go..
11:42 killakee i just dont jump to polepigs just couse i want bigger sparks
11:42 killakee ;)
11:42 [3]nertia lol
11:43 [3]nertia I was just curious =p
11:43 killakee but i have got 20 kv in my arm once
11:43 [3]nertia ;_;
11:43 killakee well that sucked
11:43 killakee low amparage though
11:43 [3]nertia Good thing
11:43 killakee but ¤"#¤!!
11:44 killakee you know they say dont pee on a horse fence
11:44 [3]nertia lolwhat?
11:44 killakee well i say.. DONT
11:44 killakee hehe
11:45 killakee i urned 1000 kroners..
11:45 killakee but i say it wassent worth it
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11:46 killakee super hi :)
11:48 killakee if a  win7 coputer has been on for 4 months is that a sign for its stable ?
11:49 asnopus I'd say yes
11:49 [3]nertia If a Windows computer has been on for >= 4 days, I'd call it stable xD
11:49 killakee not me
11:49 killakee even my main rig has been on for a month at a time
11:50 asnopus Although I'd turn on windows classic theme so Aero doesnt chew up resources. This is standard procedure with computers we use in theatre
11:50 [3]nertia I like Aero :(
11:50 asnopus Same, but it's always better safe than sorry especially with live shows
11:51 killakee i like aero to but <asnopus> is right
11:51 killakee even thoug i dont have to worie abuote that
11:51 [3]nertia asnopus: No doubt
11:54 killakee yey.. got my new 15 15`s today :D
11:55 killakee poor nigbours
11:56 [3]nertia neighbors*
11:57 killakee your like my consiousness saying no, dont say it like that .. this is right
11:57 killakee :)
11:58 [3]nertia Is that your way of saying "you're annoying me, shut the hell up!"?
11:58 killakee HAH
11:58 killakee N
11:58 killakee damn
11:58 killakee haha no
11:59 killakee i lurn if you say things like that ..
11:59 killakee i chould know bettre
11:59 killakee DAMN
11:59 killakee better
11:59 killakee my uncle is from enngland
11:59 killakee britain
11:59 killakee ?
12:00 killakee the place with the tee ant all that :)
12:00 killakee scotland actualy
12:00 killakee so i should have lurned already
12:00 [3]nertia learned*
12:01 killakee #¤%"¤#!!!
12:01 killakee learned
12:01 killakee :)
12:01 [3]nertia :)
12:02 killakee week 2 of not smoking thaks to tgg
12:02 killakee drinking and not smoking is not a good thing
12:03 killakee but i havent taken a smoke yet
12:03 [3]nertia Tgg?
12:03 killakee the geekl group ?
12:03 killakee OMG
12:03 [3]nertia >_<
12:03 killakee :)
12:04 killakee geek
12:05 killakee i mean
12:05 * killakee making toroids of every thing i see
12:07 killakee lampshade bring it on
12:07 killakee and it .. worked
12:07 killakee science is weird
12:08 [3]nertia A lampshade?
12:08 [3]nertia Really?
12:08 killakee it worked
12:08 killakee :O
12:08 killakee just :O
12:08 killakee what the ...
12:08 [3]nertia What kind of lampshade?
12:08 killakee werry thin one
12:11 killakee my oldest girl gave it to me couse it looked like a tesla coil :P
12:19 macguyver ducktape didnt fixit
12:19 macguyver so
12:20 [3]nertia lol
12:20 asnopus How about gaff?
12:20 killakee im norwegian.. we dont have gaff
12:21 asnopus Yea I just remembered in some places what we (in australia) call gaff is known as duct
12:21 killakee yeah i know
12:22 killakee just kidding
12:22 asnopus -.-
12:22 killakee i made a funie
12:26 y007ghg7- sigh im bored
12:27 y007ghg7- and its 6:27 am....
12:28 killakee <y007ghg7->come to my birthday party :D
12:28 killakee oh
12:28 killakee im forewer alone
12:28 y007ghg7- wut
12:28 killakee never mind :P
12:28 killakee im just kidding
12:28 killakee where you from '?
12:28 y007ghg7- oklahoma
12:29 killakee god damn it
12:29 y007ghg7- y u so far away
12:29 killakee i got irc fuc***
12:29 killakee and facse ****
12:29 killakee face
12:29 killakee dang
12:30 killakee im not leaving my pc tonight
12:30 y007ghg7- lol
12:30 killakee i hate my friends
12:30 killakee hehe
12:31 killakee yes im in norway
12:31 asnopus (My friends are boring)
12:31 killakee but you can party every day :P
12:31 killakee my "frikend" are just stupid§!!!!
12:31 killakee friends
12:32 y007ghg7- my friends are pretty cool
12:32 killakee hip hop føking huray
12:32 Sgt_Lemming ...?
12:32 y007ghg7- lol
12:32 killakee damn
12:33 killakee ok i need a vaitor
12:33 killakee i cant get a beer without some one irc fu*** me
12:34 killakee love my geeky friends
12:34 killakee lesson of the storie is never get a geek beer
12:36 killakee haha yey.. i locked my computer ... now every one is mad :P
12:36 killakee HAAHAAAA
12:36 killakee revenge
12:37 y007ghg7- i love the look of my desktop
12:37 y007ghg7- http://computersalesstore.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Acer_AM3400-U2052_Top.jpg
12:37 Sgt_Lemming that is kinda cool
12:37 Sgt_Lemming shame it's an acer
12:37 killakee HAHA
12:37 asnopus ^
12:37 killakee yeah
12:37 killakee i used to sell thouse
12:38 y007ghg7- it was $600
12:38 killakee thank god im not working in the electronix buisenis
12:38 Sgt_Lemming y007ghg7-, and I guarantee I can build something with as good, if not better spec for the same price
12:38 y007ghg7- with 4gb of ram, 20" monitor, 3.10GHz AMD athlon quad core, and a 1
12:38 y007ghg7- TB hdd
12:38 killakee and no
12:38 killakee wtf
12:39 killakee that mutch ?
12:39 killakee NO WAY
12:39 y007ghg7- ?
12:39 killakee is it a proto
12:39 killakee was
12:39 killakee a proto
12:40 killakee even my comp
12:40 killakee with stirling silver cpu cooling block dont get that price
12:40 y007ghg7- ah
12:41 killakee yeah
12:41 y007ghg7- it was the cheapest i found for the parts at the moment
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12:41 y007ghg7- and it plays all my games on max settings with little to no lag
12:41 y007ghg7- portal 2 has a liiittle lag
12:42 killakee to say it like this.. my computer is parts that is a bargain. and a bargain pc.. but its clocked to hell
12:42 y007ghg7- the cooling on this computer is great tho
12:43 y007ghg7- my cpu is at like ~19C
12:43 killakee core 2 quad @ 3,8
12:43 killakee wait
12:43 killakee 19c
12:43 killakee lower than air tep
12:43 killakee temp?
12:43 y007ghg7- a little
12:44 killakee heh
12:44 killakee good
12:44 killakee my cpu temp where said forget it
12:45 killakee nb is 36,8c ram 38,0 water 35,0c bgp ram 34,5c and so on
12:46 y007ghg7- yours is watercooled?
12:46 killakee hehe
12:46 killakee no ?
12:46 y007ghg7- mine isnt D:
12:46 killakee :P
12:46 killakee all is
12:46 killakee every thing
12:46 killakee everythin?
12:46 killakee EVRYTHIN!
12:46 y007ghg7- what?
12:47 Av_Nekoroms submarine computer
12:47 killakee everything is water cooled
12:47 killakee ;)
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12:48 [3]nertia killakee: That was an epic fail :(
12:48 killakee to say it like this : i am a old dj , pc cooling , pc moding, building ,evil solderingiron sientist ;)
12:48 killakee <[3]nertia> :why?
12:48 [3]nertia killakee: I tried downloading Nero from that link you gave me
12:49 killakee and?
12:49 [3]nertia But it says that my trial has expired when I try to install it :/
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12:49 killakee you had it installed before..
12:49 killakee hehe
12:50 [3]nertia No, I haven't
12:50 [3]nertia It's *never* been installed on this computer, -ever
12:50 [3]nertia -ever-*
12:50 killakee privat
12:50 killakee ok
12:50 [3]nertia K
12:51 killakee thanks
12:54 killakee thank bot steve
13:00 killakee and the cilense spreads
13:01 killakee are ennyone alive?
13:01 [3]nertia silence*, anyone*
13:01 [3]nertia =p
13:02 killakee :)
13:03 killakee the deffinition off a geek party is sitting att home with 6 beers and chatting on mirc ... (and having fun)
13:04 [3]nertia I thought a geek party was where everyone got stoned and soldered something xD
13:05 killakee (i rather soulder my ba*** to a bike seat)
13:05 [3]nertia lolwtf
13:05 killakee but im still a geek
13:05 [3]nertia Than get stoned?
13:05 killakee no
13:05 * [3]nertia is confused
13:05 [3]nertia And I hate this keyboard :<
13:05 killakee thank got i stoped taking drugs
13:06 * [3]nertia is on his mom's laptop now
13:06 [3]nertia I wish I hadn't stopped taking drugs
13:06 killakee yes i am a old drugi
13:06 [3]nertia And if I could afford some pot, I would be stoned
13:06 y007ghg7- im in my chair with my legs kicked back on my bed
13:06 killakee no and for the second .. dont
13:06 y007ghg7- on the computer :p
13:06 killakee it fucked me right up..
13:07 killakee thank god i got older
13:07 killakee my angsiaty
13:07 killakee made me stop
13:08 [3]nertia I treat my anxiety with pot, heh
13:08 killakee oh
13:08 asnopus I just yell... at everything
13:08 killakee dont
13:08 killakee just..
13:08 killakee dont
13:08 killakee no
13:08 [3]nertia killakee: There's no point in telling me not to smoke pot
13:08 killakee please
13:08 [3]nertia You don't have to deal with me on a daily basis without it :)
13:09 killakee yes it got me this lovely anxiety that i have everyday just for getting up this lovely day ..
13:09 killakee i just love my life
13:10 [3]nertia I'm not sure what [drugs] you were doing but it wasn't pot :)
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13:11 killakee im NOT talking abuote POT on the tgg channel!!
13:11 y007ghg7- lol
13:12 killakee im just saying im scared for life
13:12 killakee ok
13:12 [3]nertia Is that a taboo subject here?
13:12 [3]nertia I may have to leave if it is :)
13:13 killakee dumb fucks saying somthings better than the other
13:13 killakee no
13:13 killakee just
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13:13 killakee dont¨
13:15 killakee still wana take drugs ?
13:16 killakee cuntfu****
13:16 [3]nertia I don't take drugs
13:16 [3]nertia I smoke pot :)
13:16 killakee again
13:16 y007ghg7- i dont do drugs and i dont wanna :p
13:17 killakee i have taken all the drugs you dont wanna!!!!!
13:17 killakee k
13:17 killakee k
13:17 [3]nertia I have taken a few drugs myself
13:17 [3]nertia Pot makes me a nicer person :)
13:17 sndwrx mornin'
13:17 y007ghg7- pot makes my friend a nicer person
13:17 killakee morni
13:18 Sgt_Lemming amusing one, my housemates little sister who is staying here atm is playing "Viva Pinata" on Xbox 360 in the loungeroom.
13:18 Sgt_Lemming one of her Pinatas is sick so she called the doctor for it
13:18 Sgt_Lemming "Doctor Patchingo"
13:18 sndwrx ha
13:19 sndwrx killakee, [3]nertia:  you guys may want to continue that conversation in the NSFW room.  :)
13:20 [3]nertia Sure thing
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13:20 y007ghg7- there is a NSFW room?
13:20 sndwrx Well, didn't mean to chase anyone off.  Just didn't think it was necessarily appropriate topic for the main room.
13:21 * sndwrx nods.
13:21 asnopus Oh gawd, just watched the captains blog. I was thinking the run up with the trasnsformer was a bad idea...
13:21 y007ghg7- i was loling
13:22 killakee i still hates the mother of my childs
13:22 angy at one point, you did not
13:22 sndwrx ...sorry to hear that, killakee.
13:22 y007ghg7- 1 mile per hour, 2 miles per hour, 3 miles per ho-STOP
13:22 dbshortwave #TGG:NSFW
13:23 asnopus lol at the topic of the day for that channel
13:23 y007ghg7- i would of hated the mess that transformer flling over would of made
13:23 asnopus I fearing that
13:33 killakee i hate my life
13:35 sndwrx killakee: You okay?
13:36 Sgt_Lemming http://amultiverse.com/files/comics/2011-11-23-Call-To-Action.png
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13:37 asnopus Holy shite its windy here
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13:38 asnopus im afraid my windows will fall out of its frame
13:39 killakee hate my life and ra ra raaa
13:40 killakee its windy IN here
13:40 SparkyProjects I don't know, all this tech you kids have these days and you hate your life ?
13:40 SparkyProjects We had to make out own fun :P
13:41 * killakee got a stupid friend that says my teslacoil got no one sc ared..
13:41 killakee NEWER
13:41 killakee say thet
13:41 killakee that
13:42 killakee **
13:42 sndwrx SparkyProjects: Weren't Lincoln Logs the shit, though?
13:42 * sndwrx snickers.
13:42 killakee all i can say 6kv sucks
13:42 killakee lick it ;)
13:42 killakee i dear you
13:43 SparkyProjects Lincoln logs ?
13:43 SparkyProjects Do you mean Lego ?
13:43 SparkyProjects I was more a meccano guy
13:43 killakee heh
13:43 killakee pwnd
13:43 SparkyProjects or taking old valve radio's and TV's apart
13:44 yNos i was a tv/radio/car taker-aparter
13:44 yNos and tracter
13:44 yNos and baler
13:44 killakee ynos <3
13:44 killakee in tha hissouse
13:44 sndwrx SparkyProjects: Well, I was kidding, but I did mean Lincoln Logs.  Obviously Legos, k'nex and erector sets were much cooler.
13:45 yNos i was an erector and k-nex kid also..
13:45 sndwrx ;nods.
13:45 asnopus I took apart my grans sewing machine one time... didnt go down well at all
13:45 sndwrx I got started with Legos then went straight to radios, turntables, tvs, etc.
13:46 sndwrx Remember those 60-in-1, 120-in-1 and 360-in-1 electronic project kits RadioShack had?
13:47 asnopus DSE (our version of radio shack) pretty much got rid of them before I was 'old enough' to have one
13:47 yNos they were too expensive...
13:47 asnopus So sad about that
13:47 yNos yeah.. i could never get more than a 60-in-1
13:48 yNos but i could get the forrest m mims books
13:48 sndwrx Ah
13:48 yNos and bags of parts here and there..
13:48 killakee teslacoil 1.
13:48 killakee toung 0
13:48 yNos eh?
13:49 killakee nom nom nom
13:49 killakee that hurt
13:49 killakee when you got 6 kv nst..
13:49 killakee just dont
13:49 killakee ao
13:49 SparkyProjects Well sure that hurt, you don't test a tesla coil the same way you test a 9 volt battery :P
13:50 killakee that hurt
13:50 killakee just had to
13:50 SparkyProjects Did your eyes go funny ?
13:50 SparkyProjects :D
13:50 asnopus It's milliamperes that kill you isnt it? Or something else?
13:51 killakee i died¨
13:51 SparkyProjects You need a minimum current and voltage to kill
13:52 asnopus Ah
13:53 SparkyProjects asnopus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_shock
13:53 BotSteve Title: Electric shock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
13:53 killakee my toung is stil burning ;)
13:53 killakee and its 0,83 amps
13:54 killakee does that mean that i can die just one amp ? :O
13:54 killakee just onme ?
13:55 killakee one
13:56 SparkyProjects With a tesla coil the frequency is higher, so the current passes along the skin. it doesn't penetrate to internal organs, on smaller coils you can hold your finger out as an earth, though i don't recommend it,
13:57 killakee so when my toung goes numb everythings ok ?
13:58 killakee so i can take my fingers in the 240 volt and everythings ok ?
13:58 Monkeh killakee: No.
13:58 BotSteve Monkeh: I have the following messages for you:
13:58 BotSteve At 03:17Z, BatSteve asked me to tell Monkeh that I have the uplink soundtrack if he would like it
13:58 SparkyProjects A few years ago i lit my cigarette from a 11kv Jacob's ladder, my grandson decided to do the same, except he was using roll ups, so the tobacco was more moist, plus where he licked the sticky bit, so he felt the shock :D
13:59 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Human skin isn't metal. The frequency had best be damn high if you don't want it going through your important bits.
13:59 killakee point taken
13:59 SparkyProjects It's conductive
13:59 killakee i have tryed something.. i peed im an ox pence
13:59 killakee not a horse
13:59 killakee ox
14:00 killakee its like 50kv
14:00 killakee in the b***
14:00 killakee it sucked
14:00 killakee some
14:00 SparkyProjects I've held onto a cattle fence
14:00 SparkyProjects I used to service them for the farms
14:00 killakee :D
14:00 killakee i am a old farmer ;)
14:01 killakee i fell
14:01 killakee o my god
14:01 killakee did i fell
14:02 killakee i want the people to know..
14:02 killakee lurn abuote high volt
14:02 killakee its going to be bad :XZ
14:02 killakee hehe
14:02 killakee read
14:03 SparkyProjects It was funny at college, they had the old wind up insulation tester, they dared me to hold the wires which i did while they wound it hard.
14:03 SparkyProjects I said i didn't think it was working (it was though), so one of the boys held the ends while i wound it slower, they got a shock :D
14:03 killakee <SparkyProjects> i hate you ... kind of... now i have started to read everything
14:03 killakee ;)
14:04 killakee my mentor
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14:05 killakee you have lurned me ever so mutch
14:05 SparkyProjects If i see something i'm not sure about, i look it up, (even in the days before computers) or ask someone, it's how i learn
14:05 SparkyProjects Killakee, as i think i told you, i only got into tesla coils about 2 years ago
14:05 killakee if i see something im not sure about.. i ask you
14:06 killakee if your no..
14:06 killakee i wait and discous
14:06 killakee it¨
14:06 killakee never do something your not sure off..
14:07 killakee ever
14:07 killakee ask someone who knows
14:07 killakee high volage kills you
14:08 killakee and thats the end
14:08 killakee ask sparky!
14:08 SparkyProjects Depends on the situation, as long as you believe you can safely investigate, you should be fine.
14:09 killakee as i said
14:09 killakee never EVER try something you arent sure of!
14:09 killakee off
14:09 SparkyProjects Lower voltages are more likely to kill, you are less likely to expect them too, but anyone with sense would not go near high voltage
14:10 killakee because you think its safe..
14:10 killakee 1,4 volts can kill you ..
14:11 killakee issnt that right ?
14:11 devast8a Isn't it that volts don't really matter only amperage.
14:12 SparkyProjects I used to be an authorised 11KV switcher for our site, the instructor said the most likely think that will hurt you is if the  switch is old and has internal problems and makes the switch explode.
14:12 SparkyProjects And most of our switches were old O.O
14:12 SparkyProjects devast8a: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_shock
14:12 BotSteve Title: Electric shock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
14:12 killakee well
14:12 killakee my dad hates me
14:13 killakee this high volteg thing im doing..
14:13 killakee forget it
14:13 killakee you will be dead
14:13 killakee and thats it
14:13 SparkyProjects He doesn't understand
14:13 killakee :P
14:14 killakee 23 cm sparks
14:14 SparkyProjects As i said, people are scared of high voltage
14:14 killakee yes
14:14 killakee he is
14:14 killakee he has NO clev
14:15 killakee and he IS a high voltage enginere
14:15 SparkyProjects My Daughter is ok with me allowing my granddaughters to hold the earth rod to draw arcs from my Tesla's as she knows i know what i'm doing
14:15 killakee he has been working like this for 47 years
14:16 SparkyProjects Yeah, a HV engineer doesn't generally work with open live power
14:16 killakee hes been working with
14:16 killakee .
14:16 killakee 250
14:16 killakee volt
14:16 killakee 2000
14:16 killakee 3500
14:16 killakee 4600
14:16 killakee 4000
14:17 killakee 41280
14:17 killakee 25000
14:17 killakee 34000
14:17 SparkyProjects No need to list them all :P
14:17 killakee 110000
14:17 killakee 220000
14:17 killakee and so on...
14:18 killakee 550 000kva
14:18 killakee my primary is a 35kva winding
14:19 killakee iknow there is two lines in norway that is 3
14:20 killakee thet is 550
14:20 killakee samma det
14:20 SparkyProjects KVA = KW
14:21 SparkyProjects And with only 511 W nst, you wouldn't get 35KW
14:22 killakee my brother said on thing
14:22 killakee :(
14:23 killakee do the math
14:23 killakee :(
14:23 killakee hehe
14:23 angy KVA is not exactly KW!
14:23 killakee sparky
14:24 SparkyProjects Close enough, but the point is, don't confuse KVA with KV
14:24 killakee i cant get that power out of that little nst
14:24 killakee i feel its to mutch
14:24 angy I wish it were close, really depend on your load
14:25 SparkyProjects The load in a tesla is the inductor and capacitor
14:25 killakee sparky
14:25 SparkyProjects ?
14:25 killakee i know
14:25 killakee but
14:26 killakee i got 4 geeks
14:26 angy without PFC caps, the load of a tesla coil is a disaster
14:26 killakee trying to say it is wron
14:26 killakee hehe
14:27 killakee say drop
14:27 dbshortwave wow
14:27 dbshortwave that poor cat forklift lol
14:28 killakee wich i lived in the usa--- i have been driving forkl11 years
14:29 dbshortwave heres an idea i left in the captians blog.. if you still have the counterweight from the Nissan autopsy use that and make a backpack rig to hold that to the cat for lifting those xfmers
14:31 Experimentonomen VA, kVA, MVA etc is reactive power
14:31 SparkyProjects I made that same suggestion (if they haven't taken it to the scrapyard)
14:31 angy Experimentonomen: nope
14:31 angy VA is apparent power
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14:32 angy reactive power is var
14:32 Experimentonomen then all teachers in my schools school have been wrong
14:33 angy if you were said that VA is reactive power, burn your teachers
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14:34 sbp this conversation made me look up the equivalent of Ohm's law for superconductors
14:34 sbp which turns out to be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_equations
14:34 BotSteve Title: London equations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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14:35 angy fun thing with superconductors is that you can find tons of laws saying the same thing, in complete different manners
14:36 sndwrx Experimentonomen: Wouldn't be the first time I've heard of teachers being wrong.
14:37 sndwrx I lost a spelling bee in 2nd grade because the teacher claimed I had misspelled "industrialized", because the teacher failed to recognize a misprint in the text book.
14:39 Experimentonomen hm
14:40 SparkyProjects Was  it a misprint or was it an English book ?
14:40 Experimentonomen school = useless waste of time
14:40 angy I don't agree Experimentonomen, it start to be fun at the end (MsC & PhD parts)
14:41 Experimentonomen for me, school have been absolutely nothing but 13 years wasted on useless shit
14:41 angy I had lots of fun theses past 4-5 years
14:42 Experimentonomen for me its been nothing buy boring useless theory and equations :(
14:42 sbp Churchill said his education was interrupted only by his schooling
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14:42 angy that's always a part of education
14:42 sndwrx Well, I have a colleague that always says, "the best decision I ever made was dropping out of college to pursue my education."
14:43 angy it really depend the field you go for that
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14:47 Experimentonomen blegh
14:48 angy =)
14:52 * Experimentonomen thinks abt rewinding an old transformer from an old single supply amplifier to split supply and stick some complementary mosfets into a amp build laying on the floor
14:56 Seroster Yay exp
14:56 Cprossu woo
14:57 * angy fondles Seroster
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14:59 Seroster My desk is so worn down it is completely smooth, my mouse doesnt recognize it anympre
15:00 angy I was offered a razor mouse pad for that matter, my office desk was glass
15:00 GasPS I have just looked up to my second monitor to see "angy fondles seroster" Someone is having a better day than me
15:01 Cprossu you haven't been here long GasPS have you?
15:01 GasPS Nope, seen a fair few of the vids, only just started half idling in the irc
15:02 Cprossu welcome then!
15:02 GasPS ty
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15:03 GasPS Who should I talk to if I am tempted by coming over and voluteering?
15:03 angy close you can trash
15:03 angy clothes that is
15:03 Cprossu are you in MI GasPS?
15:03 Cprossu (eg is the lab close to you?)
15:04 Cprossu egrsteve|away our copper theifs video now has 3,300 views in the main channel and 740 views in the blog channel, 4,040 total (oddly enough) making this the most popular video that I 'encoded'
15:05 GasPS Cprossu, nope British.
15:05 Cprossu aaaah ok. There are many cool people down there (chris included) who will work something out to put you up.
15:06 GasPS Well once I have found my flat for the next year or so will look into it a bit further
15:07 dbshortwave lol old memorys came flooding back for  my mrs when i started printing with this panasonic
15:07 Cprossu but you really need to talk to moose-tysk in the forums-(lis) and captain-alphageek in the forums-(chris) about it.
15:08 Cprossu and with the other awesome members in MI (Thanks yNos!) they'll work out places for you to stay during your visit
15:08 GasPS Once I have a pln (nearly a plan) then I will give them a shout
15:09 Cprossu very cool.
15:09 sndwrx aww, the cute turkey in the Google logo is (somewhat) interactive.
15:09 sndwrx Woah!
15:09 Cprossu ask angy too, he traveled a greater distance than I did to get there
15:09 sndwrx haha, more interactive than I realized.
15:10 sndwrx He's adorable.  I want to save that logo.
15:10 * Cprossu loads up google and clicks turkey
15:10 Cprossu omg moose is going to have a cute attack!
15:10 Cprossu omg it's wing is a slot machine?!
15:11 GasPS click the plan
15:11 GasPS Play!
15:11 GasPS sorry brain is cheesed
15:11 sndwrx haha yeah, you can click the hat, feet, or feather individually, or you can randomize it by clicking the wing.
15:11 Cprossu I can't make the NBC logo, there's not enough feathers!!!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
15:12 sndwrx Which is not dissimilar to a slot machine's arm.
15:12 sndwrx Anyone want to save that for me and send it to me?  :P
15:12 Seroster Hey now it works
15:12 sndwrx I tried to save by a couple different methods, but it doesn't seem to have worked.
15:13 GasPS try right clicking on a link to google.com and selecting save link as
15:14 Seroster Glued a sheet of square paper to my desk. Great mousepad
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15:15 Cprossu holy shit
15:15 Cprossu look at the source code
15:15 Cprossu and screw you ponko!
15:15 Cprossu ""Touchdown!\n\n The football fan #turkeydoodle hopes you score a happy Thanksgiving!"
15:15 GasPS Seroster, been using a magazine for a while. Will get a mousemat for this desk .... at somepoint
15:16 sndwrx GasPS: Good idea, that seems to have worked.  Thanks!  I'm afraid in the source there may be external references, though I don't know enough to sift through it and see.
15:16 Cprossu I've worn the veneer off my desk.
15:16 sndwrx Guess I'll remove network connectivity briefly and see if it still works.
15:16 sndwrx You guys and mice.  I prefer a trackball, haha.
15:16 Cprossu wow
15:16 Cprossu it seems if you do a combination just right
15:16 Cprossu it may send you a message sndwrx
15:16 sndwrx I haven't found a trackball that I actually /like/ in years, though.  I really don't care for the thumb-control trackballs.
15:17 sndwrx Cprossu: What do you mean?
15:17 Cprossu The nerdy #turkeydoodle wishes you happy Thanksgiving, which, technically, is celebrated in the United States on the fourth Thursday of each November.
15:17 Cprossu ^ eg
15:17 Cprossu apparently there are sets within it
15:17 sndwrx Do you see that in the source or is it creating a visible message when you hit that combination?
15:17 Cprossu that's what I am thinking
15:18 Cprossu and I bet #turkeydoodle is twitter related?
15:18 sndwrx ha, nope.
15:18 sndwrx Not Google's turkey doodle, at least.
15:18 sndwrx Oh whoops I searched for username not hash tag.
15:19 Cprossu rofl
15:19 Cprossu google+ turkeys
15:19 sndwrx HA
15:19 sndwrx I don't have audio on that machine though.
15:19 sndwrx but he did something.
15:19 sndwrx OH he made a rabbit appear.
15:20 sndwrx Okay if you choose the purple wizard hat, then all purple feathers, and purple silly shoes
15:20 sndwrx there's a surprise.
15:20 sndwrx haha.
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15:21 sndwrx I'm going to see if the peg leg pirate does anything.
15:21 sndwrx I'm totally distracted from work right now, hahah.
15:21 sndwrx I don't normally find entertainment in things like this.
15:22 sndwrx hahahah
15:22 sndwrx nice pirate.
15:23 sndwrx okay brb.  I /must/ check to see if this saved the page propler.
15:23 GasPS_ sndwrx gl
15:24 sndwrx didn't work.  D:
15:24 Cprossu sndwrx this thing is a lot more complicated than I thought
15:24 Cprossu https://www.google.com/logos/2011/thanksgiving11-logo-final-sheet.png
15:24 Cprossu ^ look
15:24 sndwrx Cprossu: Find a way to archive that for me, please?  :D
15:25 Cprossu https://www.google.com/logos/2011/thanksgiving11-logo-bg.png
15:25 Cprossu ooooooooooooooh I get it now
15:25 Cprossu it's a hand turkey
15:25 sndwrx Good find, except that isn't all of the graphics.
15:26 Cprossu did you look at both pics?
15:26 sndwrx yes.
15:26 sndwrx That isn't all of it.
15:26 sndwrx For instance, do this:
15:26 Cprossu what is it missing?
15:26 sndwrx click the head until he's wearing an eye patch.
15:26 sndwrx Click the feet until he has a peg leg.
15:26 sndwrx Click the feathers until they're all black.
15:26 sndwrx Then something will happen.
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15:27 Cprossu wow
15:27 sndwrx haha
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15:27 sndwrx puff of smoke, then he becomes a full-blown pirate with a beard, booty, and everything!
15:27 sndwrx hahah.
15:28 Cprossu bing
15:28 Cprossu https://www.google.com/logos/2011/thanksgiving11-egg-sprite.png
15:28 Cprossu there's a space turkey!?
15:28 Cprossu that must be the geek one
15:28 Cprossu (robot)
15:28 Cprossu and pocket protector
15:29 Cprossu what in the hell. moldy cheese?
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15:32 sndwrx what the hell is the concrete block?
15:32 sndwrx haha
15:35 sndwrx Cprossu: please
15:35 sndwrx Cprossu: archive
15:35 sndwrx Cprossu: that for me.  :>
15:35 sndwrx haha.
15:35 Cprossu sndwrx very difficult.
15:35 sndwrx It's the most entertainment I've found in months or longer.
15:35 * sndwrx chuckles.
15:36 sndwrx Whatever happened to utilities like webstripper that seemed to grab EVERYTHING it could?
15:37 Cprossu sndwrx those javascript files are a major pain
15:39 sndwrx bugger.
15:39 sndwrx D:
15:39 sndwrx D=
15:39 sndwrx D=<
15:39 sndwrx ~D=<
15:42 angy yNos: I'm going to need you in a few, I got a few ideas needing your input =)
15:44 Cprossu sndwrx your little progrsssion reminds me of a bash.org quote.
15:44 Cprossu http://bash.org/?4281
15:44 BotSteve Title: QDB: Quote #4281
15:45 sndwrx oh yeah, the dance quote?
15:47 killakee i dont know why.. my friends scared of 6,5 kve
15:48 Cprossu killakee: scrappers ain't scared of 100kv.
15:50 Cprossu eg killakee: http://www.tradeskills4u.co.uk/posts/copper-theives
15:50 BotSteve Title: Thieves target sub-stations for scrap
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15:55 Cprossu wb GasPS
15:56 yNos angy: i have a meeting in a bit, but can help out
15:56 GasPS Thanks, been randomly disconnecting. Odd, is the live stream down or my machine really unhappy?
15:56 angy nah, we'll do that after yNos
15:56 angy I still have to modify a few part of it
15:56 yNos what are you working on?
15:57 angy getting new ideas on the inventory system not to have it on the internet
15:58 yNos Ok
15:58 yNos on the 2 bocsy machines?
15:58 angy that's the idea
15:58 yNos cool
15:58 angy I'm currently thinking of an offload system using wordpress and cookies
15:59 yNos cool
15:59 angy sadly I had very few spare time this last weeks :(
15:59 yNos i know the feeling.
16:00 Cprossu I'm going to make a cut on the security footage so I can go through it
16:00 angy I think I'll be able to visit you in february though =)
16:00 Cprossu wait we're not up are we?
16:00 angy for that you'll be close
16:01 Cprossu hrmmm
16:01 SparkyProjects Cprossu, ? Stream is online, i see vehicles going past
16:02 GasPS Seems to have just come online
16:03 angy time to call north america
16:03 SparkyProjects GasPS if it didn't appear to be online earlier, you should try pausing and playing, it's been online all today
16:04 GasPS Sparky, Thanks. Whats the audio from?
16:04 SparkyProjects A scanner listening to emergency and amateur channels
16:05 angy RRRrr they are never to the office!
16:05 GasPS Random choice, why not geekgroup radio?
16:06 SparkyProjects That broadcasts on another stream, don't need it here too
16:06 GasPS Was just thinking it is more relevent than the scanner. Got a link to ggr?
16:10 killakee i hate my lif
16:10 killakee r
16:10 killakee e
16:10 devast8a >.>
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16:11 angy hello wannabe1987
16:11 wannabe1987 hi angy
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16:12 * wannabe1987 uses a laptop on her lap sitting at a desktop.....
16:13 * Experimentonomen is playing really loud musc on his tubeamp
16:13 wannabe1987 i first read trumpet.
16:13 wannabe1987 i need new eyes i think....
16:13 sndwrx mornin' wannabe1987
16:14 wannabe1987 almost noon, sndwrx :P
16:14 * wannabe1987 might stop by the lab today.....
16:14 sndwrx That's right, /almost/.  It's still morning.  :P
16:14 wannabe1987 lol
16:14 wannabe1987 got 45 minutes! :P
16:15 sndwrx Well I've already had breakfast and lunch.
16:15 sndwrx I've been up a few hours.
16:15 wannabe1987 i had breakfast......
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16:17 wannabe1987 the internet will work on firefox but NOT chrome ???
16:17 wannabe1987 strangeness
16:17 wannabe1987 o well
16:17 producerbill I have wanted to get to the lab all week, but been fucked over this week.
16:17 BotSteve producerbill: I have the following messages for you:
16:17 BotSteve At 16 Nov 17:06Z, Cprossu asked me to tell producerbill get better soon!
16:18 wannabe1987 i have a piece of coax my parents threw away to bring in....its short, but yeah....
16:18 producerbill I am sure we can use it somewhere
16:18 wannabe1987 i was like....don't throw that away!  mom doesn't know what coax was....i told her the tv came through it....
16:18 wannabe1987 yep
16:19 producerbill processing data is fun
16:19 producerbill uggggggggg
16:19 wannabe1987 whats an helper application?
16:20 producerbill lol
16:20 wannabe1987 i hate computers...it'll open in openoffice but not word
16:22 wannabe1987 there
16:22 wannabe1987 got it
16:22 wannabe1987 strange
16:23 wannabe1987 takes way too long to do anything grrrrr
16:24 wannabe1987 i hate computers that aren't set up "right"
16:24 yNos what defines "right"?
16:24 wannabe1987 i can't even find the folder stuff downloads to....
16:25 dbshortwave awesome
16:25 dbshortwave found a case to store my atari 2600
16:27 dbshortwave i wouldnt mind a pelican case for my xbox
16:33 wannabe1987 i think i found my friends flight from dallas to GR today :D
16:34 dbshortwave cool ^.^
16:34 wannabe1987 mhm
16:35 wannabe1987 and i didn't know flight number or anything or departure times :P  only the time she comes in
16:35 tonsofpcs why would you want a pelican for an xbox?
16:35 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I have the following messages for you:
16:35 BotSteve At 04:08Z, Cprossu asked me to tell tonsofpcs look at your PM.
16:35 tonsofpcs the xbox will rrod either way
16:35 wannabe1987 lol
16:35 dbshortwave its the older xbox
16:37 dbshortwave i still have to make an RF switch for the atari
16:38 tonsofpcs erm, no you don't
16:38 tonsofpcs you can just plug it in
16:46 dbshortwave i know that much but meh it be fun to do
16:47 Seroster YAY
16:47 Seroster There will be a video of chris cussing inside a transformer!
16:47 Seroster FUCKING A!
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16:48 * angy fondles Seroster's head
16:48 Andyroo Howdy!
16:48 Seroster Hello there Andyroo
16:48 Andyroo Hi Seroster :)
16:48 Seroster How be ye?
16:48 Andyroo Just watched the captain's blog. I want a pen!
16:49 wannabe1987 ?
16:49 * wannabe1987 is behind again
16:49 Ponko you're always behind :P lol
16:50 wannabe1987 ...
16:50 Andyroo It's a fine quality. Being first is overrated :)
16:50 wannabe1987 .tfw 49428
16:50 BotSteve 42°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Jenison, MI!  'It could be worse.'
16:50 wannabe1987 .tfw dallas
16:50 BotSteve 54°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Dallas, TX!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
16:50 JA12 wannabe1987: they're making high voltage pens so you can zap people
16:50 Ponko .tfwc Fairbanks
16:50 BotSteve 16°C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Fairbanks, AK!  'My nipples could cut glass'
16:50 wannabe1987 awesome
16:51 Ponko -16
16:51 Andyroo Hmm, wonder if that's fucking.. International...
16:51 Ponko .weather Fairbanks
16:51 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 1.4℉ (-17℃), 29.24in (987mb), Light air 1kt (↑) - PAFB 15:55Z
16:51 Andyroo .tfw Scotland
16:51 BotSteve 50°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Scotland, AR!  'Better than a sharp stick in the eye.'
16:51 wannabe1987 lol
16:51 Andyroo Noo, Wrong Scotland lol
16:51 Ponko Andyroo where be ye in Scotland
16:51 wannabe1987 .tfw edinburgh scotland
16:51 BotSteve 50°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT AND WET IN Edinburgh, UK!  'Where life is mediocre'
16:51 wannabe1987 ?
16:51 Andyroo The bright and sunny west coast metropolis of Ayr :D
16:51 Ponko .tfwc Kelso
16:51 BotSteve 10°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Kelso, TN!  'At least you aren't living in a small town in Alaska'
16:52 Ponko -_-
16:52 Ponko .tfwc Kelso, Scotland
16:52 BotSteve 11°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Kelso, UK!  'At least you aren't living in a small town in Alaska'
16:52 Andyroo :D
16:52 Ponko yeah like fairbanks eh botsteve
16:52 JA12 wannabe1987: well not really high voltage but cool pens nontheless =)
16:52 Andyroo .tfw Frogballs, AK
16:52 BotSteve Unknown location
16:53 Ponko Andyroo that's where my gf is from btw lol
16:53 Andyroo Oh, it's a made up place. Who knew? :O
16:53 Andyroo Small world!
16:53 Ponko i know lol
16:53 Ponko you in Edi?
16:53 Andyroo I know Edinburgh but I ain't in it. Lovely city :)
16:54 Ponko where are you in Scotland then?
16:54 Andyroo Where's home Ponko for you? I'm in Ayr
16:54 Ponko Ayr didn't they win 11-0 on Saturday
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16:54 Ponko myself i'm from Luton
16:55 Andyroo I'm sure they might well have but sports are anathema to me :D
16:55 Andyroo Sunny Luton! Happy days
16:55 Ponko yay.....
16:55 * Ponko mutters to himself "it's a shithole."
16:55 * angy tickles Seroster^Away
16:55 Andyroo To each their own I guess :)
16:56 Ponko lol indeed
16:56 Andyroo Everyone in the lab out to lunch? Cameras seem empty :O
16:56 wannabe1987 they normally go in around noon, its 5 till
16:56 wannabe1987 :p
16:56 Ponko but if you were from Edi Andyroo my question to you would be....
16:56 Ponko Hibs or Hearts?
16:56 Andyroo Umm, Hearts I guess? I don't know the right answer to that question!
16:57 Ponko lol i know but it would of been my question IF you were from Edi
16:58 Ponko me it's Hibs because i went to see them play St Mirren and boy it was fun
16:58 Ponko i'm used to seeing crap football at Kenilworth Road but Easter Road is a tad different
16:58 Andyroo Ah, I know as much about football as I do about the history of the east inda company
16:58 Ponko :P lol
17:00 Andyroo Curious about the security camera clock... 15 minutes past the hour... Is there really that much latency on the live stream? :D
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17:01 Ponko the atmosphere has gone Electric
17:02 Andyroo It's a shocking experience!
17:02 wannabe1987 he's got a shocking personality, as well :)
17:02 wannabe1987 hi Electricguy
17:02 Electricguy hello there wannabe1987 :)
17:03 Ponko kelly that was terrible
17:03 Ponko lol
17:04 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | http://www.humblebundle.com/ | Life discussion of all (U.S. specific holiday) Thanksgiving Day games will be occuring tomorrow in #tgg:sports .
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17:04 wannabe1987 so?
17:04 Ponko i'm just notifying you :P
17:04 wannabe1987 life discussion?  masterofmonks?  or live?
17:04 wannabe1987 ok....
17:04 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | http://www.humblebundle.com/ | Liv\e discussion of all (U.S. specific holiday) Thanksgiving Day games will be occuring tomorrow in #tgg:sports .
17:04 wannabe1987 Ponko will be in tgg:sports all day :D
17:04 wannabe1987 fail
17:04 wannabe1987 redo!
17:04 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | http://www.humblebundle.com/ | Live discussion of all (U.S. specific holiday) Thanksgiving Day games will be occuring tomorrow in #tgg:sports .
17:04 wannabe1987 there you go :D
17:05 Ponko yes i will be in tgg:sports it IS after all my channel kelly
17:05 wannabe1987 lol
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17:08 wannabe1987 hi realityhack
17:09 * Andyroo is off to play Skyrim some more. Cheerio all y'all, and happy holidays you American people! I may watch Planes Trains and Automobiles later :)
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17:11 killakee slap youi
17:14 wannabe1987 ?
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17:16 SparkyProjects HAHA, most of TGG's vids have less thn 2000 views, the copper theft one has 3419 already :D
17:16 SparkyProjects If they catch the thieves and put them in the cage with Gemini and Thumper while live, a vid could get 3000000 views :P
17:16 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/
17:16 BotSteve Title: The world's tiniest V12 engine. [VIDEO]
17:16 Ponko .yt Arthur Doesn't Like Soulja Boy
17:16 BotSteve Ponko: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCdg9amMxmI
17:18 Ponko omg that's funny
17:19 wannabe1987 SparkyProjects thats cuz they were on the news....
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17:20 * Experimentonomen listens to chiptunes on tubes
17:22 SparkyProjects masterofmonks: accoeding to translation it says 'air injection', does that mean it's running from compressed air ?
17:23 wannabe1987 people are rude
17:30 dbshortwave whos rude?
17:30 dbshortwave i try not to be
17:30 dbshortwave im more smartass then rude
17:30 realityhack Hey all. Just checking to see how active tGG chat is.
17:31 dbshortwave its active
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17:31 realityhack There isn't a live stream of the main exibit hall yet is there?
17:31 wannabe1987 ANGY!
17:32 wannabe1987 not you dbshortwave, guy in an email....
17:32 dbshortwave oh
17:34 wannabe1987 realityhack - it goes between rooms, depending on if someone is in the master control (MC) or not
17:35 sndwrx w00t
17:35 sndwrx chinese buffet for lunch today.
17:35 realityhack oh. Wish they would leave at least one camera on something interesting. So far someone pulled into the lot and the UPS truck drove by on the other side of the street. Not quite compelling streaming.
17:36 wannabe1987 yum
17:36 realityhack oop. Lied. the UPS truck was on tGG side of the street. Which changes EVERYTHING!... oh wait... nvm
17:36 wannabe1987 well, if theres noone at the lab, do you *really* want to watch an empty room?
17:37 dbshortwave well its kinda cool to see day activity cause some are theiven bastards during the day
17:37 realityhack I doubt there is nobody in the building.
17:37 realityhack Somebody just walked down a corridor!
17:38 realityhack Camera 5 and 7. Is there a map of the building up anywhere?
17:38 wannabe1987 i didn't say there was noone there....
17:38 wannabe1987 no
17:38 wannabe1987 there isn't
17:38 sndwrx oh wow, the stream is split display now.  is that the result of yNos' Zoneminder efforts?
17:38 wannabe1987 unless they put one up, but i doubt it....
17:39 wannabe1987 i was saying like in teh middle of our night, do you *really* want to watch an empty room?  thats why they put it on the weathercam
17:39 realityhack I wish I was in Grand Rapids. I would love to voulenteer.
17:39 wannabe1987 i think i'm stopping by today, to drop off some coax my mom was throwing away
17:39 sndwrx realityhack: Looks like camera 5 is facing East, toward the high voltage lab.
17:40 sndwrx realityhack: The HVL is the open door at the end of the hall.
17:40 realityhack Middle of the night I wouldn't mind a rotation of labs. Just to show friends what they have.
17:40 sndwrx Camera 7 appears to be the same hallway, looking away from the HVL toward camera 5.
17:40 SparkyProjects sndwrx: that is the standard for security  cam software, you can display one or several views at a time
17:40 sndwrx I could be wrong though, I don't know the floor plan well.
17:41 sndwrx SparkyProjects: Right.
17:41 wannabe1987 take it up with boden or someone (egrsteve) for the camera then...
17:41 wannabe1987 i know the floor plan, but i don't watch the stream
17:42 sndwrx SparkyProjects: I just wondered if that is the result of Zoneminder or something else, as I know yNos was playing with Zoneminder last night.
17:42 realityhack Lost the thread... take what up? The floor plan would be nice but the cameras are not worht bothering anyone with. And I think they have higher priorities than a floor plan on the web site.
17:42 realityhack Speaking of which I NEED one of those pens!
17:43 wannabe1987 take up the idea of having rotating screens during the night
17:43 realityhack Most security camera systems support split screens. Buildings often have dozens of cameras but they don't want to have dozens of screens for the guards or for tapes/digital storage.
17:44 sndwrx Right.
17:44 dbshortwave thats what the DVR and the Zoneminder is for
17:44 sndwrx I'm pretty familiar with that.
17:44 dbshortwave if i remember
17:44 sndwrx I was asking specifically if that's the result of Zoneminder or another solution.
17:44 SparkyProjects Not sure if it's related, but i made a suggestion of a movement operated logger, so they'd know what time to look at in the footage
17:44 SparkyProjects Then the discussion moved to cameras being able to sense movement, so zoneminder is probably to do with that
17:44 SparkyProjects If you went out and bought a cheap home 4 channel cctv system, the monitor would display 4 images, so it's a very common system
17:44 sndwrx I wasn't amazed by the multi-camera magic trickery.
17:45 sndwrx LOL HOW DO MAGNETS WORK?
17:45 * sndwrx snickers.
17:45 realityhack The really cool thing is if you get the software set up so that changes in the image cause that camera to rotate in to the display. So static areas aren't recorded as often but movement is.
17:45 sndwrx Lobster egg rolls.
17:46 sndwrx I'm just gonna leave it at that.
17:46 wannabe1987 :sigh:
17:46 dbshortwave honestly i think they have something set up or a plan in the works its just taking time to implement the plan
17:46 SparkyProjects That can usually be programmed in, depends on the basic security software, it just needs a trigger.
17:46 dbshortwave not only time but funding
17:46 wannabe1987 really? dad...i KNOW computers, let me do moms stuff...you have too much to do!
17:47 SparkyProjects We also talked about capturing 'pre and post' or 'round robin' on detection, it saves a snippet from the DVR covering a few seconds before and after movement along with a timestamp
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17:48 injektion What would be considered more useful: As/400 or a RS/6000 with AIX 5.3?
17:48 realityhack Yep that is the way to do it.  The issue is of course time, knowledge, and equipment/funding.
17:48 dbshortwave anyone know if Chris is going to go swimming in oil? lol
17:49 dbshortwave and is that going to be in the captains blog
17:49 dbshortwave lolo
17:50 dbshortwave or if so that would be funny to see on a livestream with audio lol
17:50 * dbshortwave waders off
17:51 sndwrx haha, swimming, waders, ahhh
17:51 * sndwrx slaps his knee.
17:51 dbshortwave i think a few would be sick if he was in a speedo lmao
17:51 wannabe1987 yes
17:51 SparkyProjects My concern would be if they dropped the missing clamps in the top, or if the top was off and it was raining.
17:52 wannabe1987 and it wouldn't be safe for children....there are a few that watch the blog(s)
17:52 sndwrx Hey now--We're not in Europe.  Let's keep it with the waders.
17:52 dbshortwave rofl hip waders
17:52 realityhack <-- is missing something. What is this about oil?
17:52 dbshortwave call him scubba steve
17:52 injektion I am an american and I wear speedos everywhere
17:53 realityhack As a fellow American... please stop.
17:53 dbshortwave they moved the 2 big xfmers indoors
17:53 SparkyProjects realityhack: Chris wants to check the inside of the transformers for damage, and they are filled with oil
17:53 realityhack oh. Didn't realize they were oil filled. I caught them overloading the forklift.
17:53 injektion realityhack, Good luck with trying to get me to stop. I really don't believe in conservative clothing
17:54 * Ponko leaves the speedo convo alone
17:54 dbshortwave lol good idea ponko
17:54 dbshortwave i went there as is and lets leave it at that
17:55 SparkyProjects realityhack: if that transformer had fallen over, it would make a big mess :P
17:55 SparkyProjects HV transformers are filled with oil for insulation and to keep moisture (condensation) out
17:55 realityhack I am not suggesting it for conservative reasons... some things are just unatractive.
17:56 realityhack Yeah that would have been terrible to clean up... all over the new floor.
17:56 injektion There is nothing to be ashamed of when it comes to the human body
17:56 realityhack I get keeping the moisture out but is it more for insulation (vs. air) or cooling?
17:57 realityhack <-- cuts his losses in the clothing conversation.
17:57 SparkyProjects The other thing the oil does is keep them cool, note the fins on the side, heat convection moves the oil through the fins
17:58 realityhack That's what I figured. They have to be generating an emense amount of heat.
17:59 injektion Thankfully the oil doesn't have PCBs
18:00 realityhack ooohhh traffic.
18:01 * SyphonFilterPonk thinks Syphon Filter is epic
18:02 sndwrx phooooo
18:03 wannabe1987 my sister says i don't look normal cuz i got my hair cut..............
18:03 sndwrx I guess that's what I get for packing a to-go box full from a buffet instead of sitting there and eating.
18:03 sndwrx wannabe1987: Was it a drastic change?
18:05 SyphonFilterPonk ok game crashed -_- that was annoying
18:06 wannabe1987 4 inches?
18:06 realityhack Fun time over. Back to real job. Have fun all.
18:06 tonsofpcs sndwrx: hungry?
18:06 tonsofpcs real job?
18:06 sndwrx tonsofpcs: Yeah I must have packed nearly three pounds into the box.
18:06 sndwrx Didn't expect to eat so much of it, but definitely more than half.
18:06 wannabe1987 there are soooo many geeky knitted items, and i can't find a simple dice bag pattern O.o
18:07 sndwrx wannabe1987: Dunno.  Pics?  (haircut)
18:07 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: pattern? like to make one?
18:07 wannabe1987 havent had anyone take a photo yet...thx giving prolly
18:07 wannabe1987 yessir
18:08 tonsofpcs take a piece of fabric, fold in half (inside-out, of course), sew two adjacent edges, invert, make a hem on top over a cord.
18:08 wannabe1987 knit
18:08 wannabe1987 not sew
18:08 tonsofpcs oh
18:08 tonsofpcs good luck! :)
18:08 tonsofpcs (can you do similar? make a rectangle and then connect it?)
18:09 sndwrx Hooray.   Today one of my multiseat kiosks is deployed into production.
18:09 sndwrx Here's hoping it turns out well.
18:09 tonsofpcs multiseat kiosk?
18:09 wannabe1987 yeah...prolly
18:09 tonsofpcs brb, gotta set up a studio
18:09 wannabe1987 cj wants one, i'll knit him one and send it that way
18:10 Cprossu what's up everyone?
18:10 killakee fuk jeah
18:11 sndwrx tonsofpcs: multiseat - one computer with multiple independent interfaces (multiple monitors, keyboard, mice, all interfaced with their own individual desktop)
18:11 wannabe1987 nooes....all the patterns have something on them...i'm not that advanced!
18:11 sndwrx tonsofpcs: kiosk being a locked down public access machine with only one function.
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18:11 sndwrx hey Cprossu
18:11 Dibblah Sure this has been pointed out already - http://www.dealextreme.com/p/embedded-linux-8-ch-network-dvr-digital-video-recorder-w-dual-usb-lan-vga-more-107322
18:11 BotSteve Title: Embedded Linux 8-CH Network DVR Digital Video Recorder w/ Dual USB / LAN / VGA + More - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
18:12 Cprossu yeah we want to build our own Dibblah
18:12 Cprossu we've been looking into it
18:12 Dibblah $138 for a 8 channel motion detecting h.264 DVR...
18:12 Cprossu holy crap
18:12 Cprossu http://www.dealextreme.com/p/16-channel-surveillance-video-monitoring-capture-pci-card-72986
18:12 BotSteve Title: 16-Channel Surveillance Video Monitoring Capture PCI Card - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
18:12 Cprossu didn't see this one
18:12 Dibblah Yep. Building your own is the proper, hardcore hacker way to do it - but....
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18:12 killakee i hate my life
18:13 wannabe1987 http://redshirtknitting.com/?page_id=217
18:13 Cprossu what in the world are the chipsets on those?
18:13 wannabe1987 ok...tiem to go do "stuff"
18:13 Dibblah Techwell?
18:13 sndwrx bye wannabe-afk
18:14 wannabe-afk hi toast, bye toas
18:14 wannabe-afk t
18:14 killakee hi whanna
18:14 Toastdude AAw...
18:14 Toastdude Bye wannabe-afk
18:15 Dibblah Yeah, techwell do real-time h.264 compression chips.
18:15 Dibblah And the other one just looks like a PCI bridge.
18:16 Cprossu for $56 it might be a good gamble
18:16 Dibblah Anyone actually believe the FCC silkscreen? ;)
18:16 Cprossu no, no one does
18:16 Cprossu and there's UL and such on some of this crap too
18:17 Cprossu sometimes even the CE is fake
18:17 Cprossu I know yNos wants to do zoneminder
18:17 Cprossu so we'll keep with that
18:18 Dibblah Well, if you want ZM, this is probably not the card for you.
18:18 Cprossu we're looking into cards that don't cost us $200 a whack to implement
18:18 Dibblah Unless they've recently done some funky stuff with the pre-calculated motion vectors in the compressed video.
18:18 Cprossu 8-16 channel preffered, and we'd like there not to be chipset issues
18:19 Dibblah (ie you use the MVs in the video image to do your motion detection in semi-hardware)
18:22 Dibblah Also - I might sponsor (depending on cashflow and if anyone else has done it) a new angle grinder. On the understanding that the safety guard stays on. I get shivers every time I watch one of those captains blogs. And not good ones. ;)
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18:34 Cprossu hummm.
18:34 Cprossu http://www.veotron.com/Kodicom-DVR-Cards/Kodicom-4400-16Ch-DVR-card-496.htm
18:34 BotSteve Title: Kodicom 4400 16Ch DVR card - VT-DVRCK16
18:34 SparkyProjects Dibblah: If you donate an angle grinder under those terms, try to find one that takes larger wheels.
18:34 SparkyProjects Many are made to take say a 4 inch wheel, but you can only get replacements of 4.25 inch wheels.
18:34 SparkyProjects And that large wheel they were using (6 inch i think) should never be used with that size of grinder, they need a bigger one
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18:36 Cprossu hey ajprog_laptop got a reliable connection yet?
18:36 ajprog_laptop nope probably not :P
18:36 Cprossu fair enough, how are you doing?
18:37 ajprog_laptop good, trying to focus so I can get some work done
18:37 ajprog_laptop it isn't going well
18:37 Cprossu ypi om texas right now?
18:37 Cprossu *you
18:37 Cprossu *in
18:38 ajprog_laptop texas????? no NYC
18:38 ajprog_laptop my ip?
18:38 Cprossu lol your' current IP mask
18:38 Cprossu is from texas
18:38 ajprog_laptop yikes, hotel wifi
18:38 Cprossu that's pretty funny, no?
18:39 ajprog_laptop yeah, I think I was in SC last night
18:40 * Cprossu is curious if it actually goes through tx
18:40 * Cprossu *does a traceroute*
18:40 Cprossu wow rofl
18:41 Cprossu From AZ to LA to TX through what looks to be an IP tunneling internal address to NY.
18:44 ajprog_laptop crazy att
18:45 Cprossu I attempted to see what OS was running on tunnel server(s) but was unable to
18:47 killakee lol
18:47 killakee im geting old
18:48 sndwrx Why do you say that killakee ?
18:48 killakee im 31
18:48 killakee old
18:48 sndwrx ha.
18:48 sndwrx You're not the oldest one here.
18:48 killakee old i am
18:49 killakee ¨hehe i know and you are not the oldest ..
18:49 killakee ?
18:49 killakee hehe
18:50 sndwrx A little clonezilla action going.
18:51 sndwrx And in about five minutes my new box will be operational on the floor.
18:52 injektion Hmm
18:52 injektion How much is too much for an RS/6000?
18:54 injektion Either that or an AS/400 for $50
18:55 injektion http://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/sys/2708095565.html
18:55 BotSteve Title: AS-400
18:57 injektion I know nothing about AS/400 and I don't know if now would be a good time to learn
18:58 Cprossu how cute, it's a 9402
19:00 yNos if you can get a terminal with it, go nuts.
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19:01 yNos if not, its pretty much useless.
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19:03 injektion What can I use one for other than to fuck around with?
19:04 yNos learning COBOL
19:04 yNos or whatever languages are setup on it.
19:05 yNos its not a massively powerfull machine...
19:06 yNos there is almost no OS overhead...
19:06 injektion I know some stuff about how the OS works
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19:10 Toastdude Hi Thermoelectric
19:10 Toastdude Hi yNos
19:10 injektion What would be the power requirements?
19:12 wannabe-afk is the lab open today yNos?
19:15 injektion As long as it doesn't need anything over 120VAC I should be fine? hopefully
19:15 wannabe-afk anyone watching the stream?  is anyone there?
19:16 Cprossu we should have a banner printed and hung
19:16 Cprossu yeah there are people there wannabe-afk
19:16 wannabe-afk where?
19:16 wannabe-afk ok thx
19:17 Cprossu we should have the scrapper's pic along with 'we heard you like cameras, yo' up below the security cams
19:17 wannabe-afk lol
19:18 Toastdude Wannabe!
19:18 wannabe1987 hey....i gots to leave soon
19:22 Toastdude Okay
19:24 wannabe1987 i hate firefox....it lost all my tabs :(
19:24 wannabe1987 gotta go....bye!
19:27 injektion I could always go for something Itanium lol
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19:36 angy injektion!
19:36 angy Toasty!
19:40 injektion A NeXT machine would be nice
19:42 angy a(nother) Sun Sparc Station =)
19:43 injektion No more SPARC for me
19:44 angy an Alpha station?
19:44 * angy sparks on injektion
19:44 angy =)
19:46 injektion I'd like something Itanium lol
19:47 angy if you got an intanium, I'll send you windows for itanium
19:47 killakee if you make the wire goes both ways
19:47 Monkeh injektion: You can buy my Itanic
19:47 killakee secondary and primary dont goe the same way ...
19:48 killakee does that matter ?
19:49 killakee do you have to wind it the same way ?
19:49 injektion Monkeh: Specs and how much
19:49 Monkeh injektion: I'd have to check, depends where you are.
19:51 injektion I'm in the southern US
19:51 Monkeh injektion: More than you can afford
19:52 injektion lol
19:52 angy $2.5?
19:52 angy =)
19:53 Monkeh angy: Add a zero and you're still low. ;)
19:54 angy $2.50?
19:54 angy =P
19:54 injektion I can go on ebay and find itaniums cheaper than that lol
19:54 angy $02.5
19:54 angy 0$2.5
19:54 Monkeh injektion: Sure.
19:54 yNos find some HP itaniums and send'm this way.. i got some hpux stuff....
19:54 Monkeh injektion: They're not shipped across the atlantic.
19:55 Monkeh This thing is no Mac Mini, mmmk?
19:55 yNos injektion: i that AS is likely 120v
19:55 Monkeh yNos: Sorry, Dhell.
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19:55 yNos i wonder if it will run hpux?
19:55 Monkeh yNos: No reason why not.
19:55 Monkeh yNos: Not as if there are a whole load of chipsets!
19:55 angy big one, not HP branded
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19:57 injektion yNos, Anything above 120VAC would be doable just as long as it's not 3phase
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19:58 injektion Since I am not in a commercial building and the power company will not supply 3phase electricity here
19:58 Monkeh injektion: I.. really doubt any computer made since 1970 takes 3-phase.
19:58 angy mainframes
19:59 Monkeh angy: They're made of multiple compute nodes.
19:59 yNos HP has some special serial number crap that is buried in the hardware, i am not sure if it would llow it to boot.
20:00 Monkeh yNos: EFI thing. Can probably be hacked. ;)
20:00 yNos not efi
20:00 injektion I'd like a cray 2 waterfall to use as home decor
20:01 angy I'm quite certain that IBM D/series and Z/series requires three phase power
20:02 yNos i know ours does.
20:03 angy z/series are fun mainframes
20:03 yNos glad someone thinks so
20:03 sndwrx http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/sys/2717066794.html
20:04 BotSteve Title: TOUCHSCREEN PC GREAT DEAL!!
20:04 sndwrx People are stupid.
20:04 yNos i hated working with ours.. mainly because we were working with 40+ year old code.
20:04 angy yeah, that was the design of z/series
20:04 sndwrx Ad says Athlon processor, sticker says Intel.
20:04 angy porting old code that no-one knows on newer machines
20:05 angy yours a z/114? I remember it was not that big
20:05 egrsteve|away HI Ynos
20:05 injektion I thought that's why those still had a customer base due to backwards compatibility over several decades
20:05 yNos i am not sure how large it is.
20:05 yNos or what model
20:05 yNos hey egrsteve|away
20:05 yNos hows tgg?
20:05 egrsteve|tgg it's here
20:05 yNos what is?
20:06 egrsteve|tgg 2 more cases of cat5 donated
20:06 yNos :D
20:06 injektion (probably why AS/400 still has customers)
20:06 angy not only backward injektion, shear power for some tasks as well
20:06 yNos cool
20:06 egrsteve|tgg I just pulled 4 from NOC to MC
20:06 angy z/OS is a very nice OS, just not very easy to use
20:06 egrsteve|tgg next is run to tool room
20:06 yNos it is an io grinding machine..
20:06 angy ergonomic like a sphere shaped into a cube
20:07 yNos i need to get going...
20:07 Monkeh yNos: I'd expect it to have been done in EFI, but who knows when you're delaing with HP dain bramage.
20:07 yNos cant stop in to tgg tonight..
20:07 yNos later all
20:07 * yNos waves
20:07 angy bye yNos
20:07 egrsteve|tgg ok
20:07 angy have a nice... something
20:07 injektion I don't like many Unices other than IRIX
20:07 egrsteve|tgg ynos you need cat5 from noc to tool room?
20:07 sndwrx see ya yNos
20:08 yNos yes please. if you are in a hole drilling mood...
20:08 egrsteve|tgg OK, I Will put 2 one for me one for you
20:08 yNos can you poke a hole into show control? on the north side of the door if possible
20:08 yNos so the fiber that is hanging there can be pushed through.
20:09 yNos the drill has been in use the times i have been there.
20:09 egrsteve|tgg theren is a hole already over at the south side of the room
20:09 Monkeh angy: And how many seperate compute nodes and single-phase SMPSUs make up those boxes?
20:09 angy what box?
20:09 egrsteve|tgg I will see what I can do
20:09 yNos the fiber isnt long enough to reach the south side.. and that is the longest fiber we have.
20:09 egrsteve|tgg ok
20:10 egrsteve|tgg where is your rack going to be in there?
20:10 yNos so the switch will be mounted on the north wall, above head height.
20:10 yNos wire run over to the rack.
20:10 egrsteve|tgg ok, ajesent the bolt room then
20:10 yNos yup
20:10 egrsteve|tgg *adjecent
20:10 Seroster Hey SparkyProjects
20:11 Seroster How long do you think an induction motor can run against a dead stop before it burns?
20:11 egrsteve|tgg I will see what I can make happen
20:11 yNos till just before the flames start;)
20:11 yNos and not any longer
20:11 yNos ok, really now.. i need to get.
20:11 yNos later all
20:11 * yNos waves
20:14 angy Monkeh: if you talk about a z/114 it's /one/ compute node and /two/ three phase power supplies running n+n
20:15 Monkeh angy: I wasn't talking about any one specific machine.
20:15 Cheezmo Msn, watching the security cams for just a few minutes, there seems to be a lot of thug-life wannabes around GR
20:15 Cheezmo man*
20:16 angy a mainframe is a combination of drawers, you can't say it's separate compute nodes, each drawers are meant to do a specific task
20:16 Monkeh angy: I think we have different ideas of mainframes, I may be thinking of ones made today.
20:16 angy there are exactly the sakes as the ones from 40 years ago
20:17 angy you must think clusters
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20:20 angy I also know clusters made using three phases power supplies, like Sun Constellation, they are power using -48V from massive power supplies
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20:23 Monkeh angy: I must admit curiosity at the choice of -48V.
20:23 killakee got to lovr my life
20:24 angy telco standard that is reused in lots of datacenters
20:24 Monkeh Strange.
20:24 angy -48V is not uncommon at all in long haul systems, and even not that uncommon in servers
20:25 Monkeh Long haul?
20:25 angy >5km runs
20:25 angy give or take
20:25 Monkeh .. Not for power transmission surely.
20:25 angy data transmission
20:25 Monkeh Right. So that had no relevance.
20:26 angy it has
20:26 angy most of the time, you use injectors
20:27 angy http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/512/SC512F-410.cfm
20:27 BotSteve Title: Super Micro Computer, Inc. - Products | Chassis | 1U | SC512F-410B
20:27 angy super micro got all their cases with -48V supply
20:27 killakee i hope you understand  this is lkooking wrong
20:27 killakee injectors and all
20:27 angy /I/ use injektion for other things =P
20:28 killakee sugar ?
20:28 angy yep, and cake disappearance
20:28 killakee :/
20:28 killakee aint good
20:29 * angy nearly never eats sugar-ish food
20:29 Monkeh angy: I still fail to see how the use of -48V for data transmission (I'm aware, I have a phone line) is relevant to power transmission.
20:29 angy why 120V is a convention?
20:29 angy it's the same
20:29 angy it was chosen like that
20:30 Monkeh angy: 120V is common because someone with limited understanding chose it and nobody has the brains to back a move to sometihng more sensible.
20:30 * killakee is using my teslacoil and my friend is playing poker ... when /me is using my coil
20:30 angy it's the same with -48V
20:30 killakee the poker says stop
20:30 angy it's like that
20:30 Monkeh angy: And again, I don't see the correlation between data and power here.
20:30 killakee and disapair
20:30 killakee hehe me laugh
20:31 angy why a correlation between power and data?
20:31 angy your computer run 120V or 230V and there is no correlation do the datas
20:31 Monkeh angy: ... If there's no correlation then it's not relevant.
20:31 killakee angy you hit the nail on the head
20:31 killakee ;)
20:32 killakee i rather lick my coil than having someone loose monye
20:32 * angy really don't see
20:32 killakee open your eyes
20:32 killakee ;)
20:33 angy that won't help a lot
20:33 Monkeh angy: What is the connection between -48V power and -48V data?
20:33 angy -48V /power supplies/
20:33 angy you can't run -48V in a fiber by any mean
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20:34 Monkeh No, you run light in fibre.
20:34 killakee why dont t g g run fibre ?
20:35 angy we run fibers
20:35 angy lots of them =)
20:35 killakee heh
20:35 killakee yeah
20:35 killakee yor
20:35 Monkeh And again, no relevance to the discussion.
20:35 killakee you
20:35 angy now we need to have connection to Merit backbone
20:35 angy =)
20:35 killakee and how
20:35 killakee ?
20:36 angy cat4k fiber switch acting as a core with fiber uplinks from cat3k5
20:36 Electricguy going to be now
20:36 Electricguy night night
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20:37 killakee peace out
20:37 killakee snd so on
20:37 Electricguy hehe
20:37 killakee and
20:37 killakee never mind the bol****
20:39 angy we also want to run fiber channel storage somewhere. have the switch but no licecence to make it work
20:40 angy if anyone has a silkware licence, I think it's silkOS1 or SilkOS5 I don't really remember
20:42 killakee rather injoi the silence
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20:46 astro73|alice ok, that bug is getting annoying
20:48 Cheezmo I see a wonder dog!
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20:56 masterofmonks Seroster: http://io9.com/5861680/10-of-the-most-dangerous-chemicals-in-the-world
20:56 BotSteve Title: 10 of the Most Dangerous Chemicals in the World
21:01 Cheezmo yummy, masterofmonks
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21:07 SparkyProjects masterofmonks: That v12 engine, accoeding to translation it says 'air injection', does that mean it's running from compressed air ?
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21:08 Seroster masterofmonks, Erm... they have nicotine before botulinumtoxin?
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21:21 masterofmonks In order. Yes, I have no idea, and yes they are not really in order of lethality.
21:22 SparkyProjects masterofmonks: ^
21:23 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: To which part are you referring to?
21:23 SparkyProjects The v12 engine you linked to, if you follow the YT link there's a description
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21:24 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: Part two of my response.
21:24 masterofmonks "I have no idea"
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21:25 masterofmonks I also feel that it is important to note that most people can't smell the almond scent of cyanide, and if you are a man you can pretty much count yourself out of those that can.
21:25 SparkyProjects Well, i think these are the smallest 'working' V12 engines i've seen
21:25 SparkyProjects Air cooled http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VI5x2hZNJs
21:25 SparkyProjects Water cooled http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1OlR8beAxY
21:25 BotSteve Title: V12_RC_Modellmotor_Directors_cut - YouTube
21:25 BotSteve Title: ARTUS_V12_EXHAUST-Flames - YouTube
21:26 masterofmonks Though I will note that I didn't see spark plugs, or any form of power distribution, so it could only be air or diesel.
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21:27 masterofmonks And there is lwq1996, the mighty Quinn.
21:28 SparkyProjects better vid of water cooled and prop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyxDupJHilc
21:28 BotSteve Title: Artus V12 Motor confirmed - YouTube
21:30 lwq1996 hi
21:30 lwq1996 quinn?
21:31 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: figure this out, The Hollies,  Carrie Anne compared to Long Cool Woman in a Black Dress. What happened there?
21:31 masterofmonks .yt manfred mann mighty quinn
21:31 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liIQLIx2Onw
21:31 lwq1996 .title
21:31 BotSteve lwq1996: Artus V12 Motor confirmed - YouTube
21:32 SparkyProjects How can anyone compare those :/
21:32 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: Exactly.
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21:35 lkaezadl3 hello
21:36 lkaezadl3 do you read me?
21:36 lwq1996 hi
21:36 lwq1996 your new right?
21:36 lkaezadl3 yes
21:36 lwq1996 so many people in the irc i cant keep track
21:37 lwq1996 well welcome to the geek group irc
21:37 lkaezadl3 thanks
21:38 lkaezadl3 i was looking for some information regarding running games on linux, but i don't know where to look
21:38 lwq1996 ubuntu?
21:39 lwq1996 ok lkaezadl3 you can go to another channel that will help you...copy and paste this /join #linux
21:39 lkaezadl3 actually lucid puppy
21:39 lwq1996 oh...they may be able to help
21:40 lkaezadl3 thanks, i'll try that one
21:40 lwq1996 i dont do much with that one...i use ubuntu and im getting into damn small linux
21:41 lkaezadl3 well the problem is as follows: i downloaded ePSXe (play station emulator), but it complained about the GTK+ 1.2 libraries not available
21:42 lwq1996 i dont know about that...hmmm
21:42 lkaezadl3 I have version 2.0 of GTK+ installed, so I tried faking the installation by linking to the 2.0 libs with the correct filenames
21:42 lwq1996 im kinda not that knowing of stuff like that
21:42 lkaezadl3 oh sorry
21:42 masterofmonks lkaezadl3: Do you have the GTK+ 1.2 libraries?
21:43 lkaezadl3 oh by linking i meant "symlinking"
21:43 lkaezadl3 'cause epsxe (to my knowledge) is not open source
21:44 lkaezadl3 i have GTK+ 2.0
21:45 lwq1996 omg poor little forklift
21:46 lkaezadl3 but after symlinking, it complains about a missing "gtk_type_check_object_cast" symbol
21:47 lkaezadl3 I searched their forums, but can't find an answer
21:48 masterofmonks Ok, first, 1.2 does not equal 2.0.
21:48 masterofmonks I would simply try installing the 1.2 libraries.
21:48 lkaezadl3 I won't download, compile and install an old GTK+ 1.2 source tree just to run that F*****G program, so i hoped there would be some workaround
21:49 masterofmonks You may use adult language in this channel.
21:49 lwq1996 yup
21:49 lwq1996 FUCK
21:49 Cheezmo PRESTIDIGITATION
21:49 masterofmonks lwq1996: Don't make me take my apron off and beat you.
21:50 lkaezadl3 okay FUUUUUUUUUCKIIIIIIIING fuck of a program
21:50 lwq1996 lol
21:50 lkaezadl3 :)
21:50 masterofmonks lkaezadl3: You are using ubuntu correct?
21:50 lwq1996 nope
21:50 masterofmonks There should be a package for GTK+1.2
21:50 lkaezadl3 no, i'm using lucid puppy 5.2.5
21:51 masterofmonks .wik lucid puppy
21:51 BotSteve "Puppy Linux is a lightweight Linux distribution that focuses on ease of use." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppy_Linux
21:51 lkaezadl3 yeah, that one
21:52 masterofmonks I have to ask Why Puppy Linux?
21:52 lkaezadl3 'cause ubuntu and the like were way too slow for me
21:52 lwq1996 old computer
21:53 masterofmonks Try Ubuntu netbook.
21:53 sndwrx I haven't used Puppy since the switch to an Ubuntu base, but you should be able to use Ubuntu repos in Lucid Puppy.
21:53 lkaezadl3 nah, P4 @ 2.8GHz, 768 Mib of Mem
21:53 sndwrx As Lucid Puppy is based on Ubuntu packages.
21:53 sndwrx <- chiming in late with useless info.
21:53 lkaezadl3 oh yeah? didn't know that
21:53 * sndwrx chuckles.
21:54 masterofmonks Fuck, I need to bind scrollback clear to another key combination.
21:54 lkaezadl3 so you say i can get ubuntu packages to install on my system?
21:56 JA12 "enhanced psx emulator" doesn't sound enhanced to me
21:57 lkaezadl3 well, haven't tried any other PSX emu for linux... any recommendations?
21:57 lkaezadl3 it seemed the fastest for me on Windows
21:57 masterofmonks ePSXe is the one I have used the most.
21:58 lkaezadl3 I still use it on linux running under Wine, but is slow as hell
21:59 JA12 no I don't use such things. using old packages usually means it's not actively developed
22:00 lkaezadl3 oh yeah. they got epsxe 1.7.0 for windows but only 1.6.0 for linux
22:00 Monkeh masterofmonks: Ugh, people still package GTK+ 1.2?
22:00 masterofmonks lkaezadl3: That is common.
22:01 masterofmonks Monkeh: Beats the hell out of me, but I am sure you can find one.
22:01 Monkeh masterofmonks: Well, I imagine Debian does. But Debian is still in 1995.
22:03 lkaezadl3 hey anyways, talking about switching linux distros... does arch linux have graphical user interface?
22:03 sndwrx yes.
22:03 JA12 it has if you install one
22:03 sndwrx Right.
22:03 sndwrx It's a distro after my own heart--Start with the minimum as a base and build only what you need from there.
22:03 lkaezadl3 i have an arch cd but it hadn't an ui either in the live cd or installed
22:03 sndwrx None of this over-bloated extra useless nonsense.
22:04 lkaezadl3 how do you start the gui?
22:05 Monkeh lkaezadl3: How do you normally start it?
22:05 masterofmonks lkaezadl3: distrospecific-command install kde
22:05 JA12 sndwrx: that just depends on what you compare =)
22:05 Monkeh masterofmonks: Yugh, KDE.
22:05 Monkeh masterofmonks: I tried to give KDE4 a serious try. It's driven me off already.
22:05 masterofmonks Monkeh: let me guess, you are an enlightenment freak.
22:05 lkaezadl3 sorry, i'm a linux newbie, and i'm not that comfortable at the CLI
22:05 Monkeh masterofmonks: No, I presently use gNOme.
22:05 Monkeh masterofmonks: I previously used Xfce until they drove me away.
22:06 masterofmonks No, no wait. You use emacs for everything.
22:06 sndwrx AWM
22:06 Monkeh masterofmonks: Dedicated vim user.
22:06 JA12 lkaezadl3: I would suggest that forget arch for now then
22:06 sndwrx Awesome Window Manager
22:06 lkaezadl3 plus i don't know hot to connect to the internet
22:06 killakee my birthday is the best... tgg and teslacoils... cant be better
22:06 JA12 lkaezadl3: arch needs some level of dedication to set up
22:06 masterofmonks Monkeh: I once treid to get Druidic_Rifleman to join emacs...
22:07 sndwrx lkaezadl3: They're right.  You should try Gentoo first.
22:07 Monkeh masterofmonks: Did he forget how to type 'emacs'?
22:07 Druidic_Rifleman Any one want a chance to legally hack into and chagne a website?
22:08 lkaezadl3 emacs sucks
22:08 lkaezadl3 just plain
22:08 masterofmonks Druidic_Rifleman: Are you willing to sign a notarized afidavid stating that you own the website and the server it is located on?
22:09 JA12 lkaezadl3: what was it.. P4/768MB? I have similar system athlon xp/1,5GB with ubuntu 10.10. works great
22:09 Monkeh Druidic_Rifleman: And that you have full permission from the operators of all networks on route to it?
22:09 Druidic_Rifleman I am willing to get the owner of the website who needs an event notice added to it but has a POS webadmin who isn't doing his job to
22:10 Druidic_Rifleman not my website it's for the place i play paint ball and the webmaster is dicking them around loosing revinue
22:11 Druidic_Rifleman they needed the info up a week ago
22:12 sndwrx Okay, home time.
22:12 lkaezadl3 JA12: mine was horribly slow... could it be my gfx card?
22:13 sndwrx Druidic_Rifleman: What's the address?  I have no intention of touching anything, I'm just curious.
22:13 Druidic_Rifleman http://campxpaintballfields.com/eventlinks.html bugger has pulled this for 2 events now
22:13 BotSteve Title: Camp X Paintball - Oshawa Ontario, Bowmanville Ontario, Toronto Ontario, Durham Region, GTA
22:14 sndwrx What's his problem?
22:14 Druidic_Rifleman Ummmm He's a dick head
22:14 sndwrx ha.
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22:14 Druidic_Rifleman And 3 people have refused to act as scenario generals Cause of him
22:14 sndwrx Aren't we all, though?
22:14 lwq1996 omg i got the schools internet code after three years
22:14 masterofmonks lwq1996: Really now?
22:14 Druidic_Rifleman gave a general shit for giving Someone a map to act as his personal Radio operator
22:15 lwq1996 yes
22:15 lwq1996 i can now irc at school :P
22:15 masterofmonks lwq1996: And this allows you to?
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22:15 Druidic_Rifleman get Banned from using school comps for hacking
22:15 masterofmonks Ah, watch out with that, they could try to expell you, ask em how I know.
22:15 masterofmonks me*
22:15 Druidic_Rifleman Naw they never give any one shit
22:15 Druidic_Rifleman You almost did
22:15 lwq1996 lol
22:16 sndwrx okay going home now.
22:16 lwq1996 they will just yell at me
22:16 Druidic_Rifleman I know 90% of studints can be instantly banned from using the school computers in most highschools
22:16 masterofmonks Yeah.. In this case it was a password that *everyone* knew and used.
22:16 Druidic_Rifleman Niagra coutny high Did away with student lap tops when they wqe're FILLED with porn
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22:16 lwq1996 eh almost everyone at my school has the code
22:17 Druidic_Rifleman 20% school stuff 80% porn
22:17 lwq1996 DRUIDIC THAT GOES INTO NSFW
22:17 Druidic_Rifleman the Number of studints who Read the student internet access contract is about 5% where i whent
22:18 Druidic_Rifleman Most get a stack of forms fillem all out
22:18 masterofmonks The thing to consider is this, all it takes is one teacher/administrator/student that has something against you, and you are in deep deep crap.
22:18 Druidic_Rifleman Don't read nothing
22:18 Druidic_Rifleman oor out side person with a beef to settle
22:18 lwq1996 LOL nah no one really cares if we do or not
22:18 Druidic_Rifleman Call your school
22:18 Druidic_Rifleman let your teacher know
22:18 Druidic_Rifleman Lie a bit
22:19 Druidic_Rifleman Make an animation that looks like you posted it online embarasing them
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22:19 sbp when I was at school we only had one computer connected to the internet
22:19 masterofmonks Morning piku.
22:19 Druidic_Rifleman And just be like "i thought you should know what this student was up to"
22:19 sbp I still remember us all sitting around it whilst the teacher demonstrated the web
22:19 masterofmonks sbp: When was that?
22:19 lwq1996 hahahaha there is an easier way on windows 7 i just found out
22:19 sbp "ooh, isn't microsoft.com in [whatever stupid year it was] pretty?"
22:20 sbp I dunno, some time in the 1990s!
22:20 lwq1996 all i do is copy the setting on to a flash drive
22:20 sbp I remember we didn't even have Windows 95, we had... what was it, Windows 3.1 or something?
22:20 Druidic_Rifleman I wanted to Rip a teacher a new one when she was giving me crap In the Assisted support room when her students didn't have authorisation to use it
22:20 sbp they put some access controls on it, but we kept finding ways around it
22:20 Druidic_Rifleman there was an extra room with PC's
22:20 Druidic_Rifleman for students who needed acidemic assistance
22:20 sbp then the computer technician said "okay fine, you keep getting past so we won't bother trying anymore, but please don't mess up the computers!"
22:22 Druidic_Rifleman Someone crashed the Server at the ISP for the entire city's bell sypatico service from the teachers desk
22:22 piku what's the audio on the live stream?
22:24 Monkeh piku: Scanner.
22:25 piku aw, in the UK all we can pick up are taxis, aircraft and pager messages (if you have a PC to decode them)
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22:31 Cprossu sbp what's up
22:31 sbp hey Cprossu, not much. learning about electric water urns
22:32 Cprossu they get hot.
22:32 Cprossu (that's all I got)
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22:32 Cprossu computers were very fun.
22:32 Cprossu btw. as for microsoft's website give me a moment
22:33 Cprossu http://web.archive.org/web/19961026164556/http://www.microsoft.com/
22:33 BotSteve Title: Microsoft Corporation: Software, Smartphones, Online, Games, Cloud Computing, IT Business Technology, Downloads
22:33 Cprossu rofl.................
22:34 Cprossu BotSteve followed the wrong link!!!
22:34 lwq1996 lol
22:34 sbp even back then they had the stupid "Best experienced with IE" buttons
22:34 Cprossu BotSteve: tell BatSteve-Away that BotSteve followed the wrong link when given this as input http://web.archive.org/web/19961026164556/http://www.microsoft.com/
22:34 sbp though of course, back then it was true!
22:34 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when BatSteve-Away is around.
22:34 BotSteve Title: Microsoft Corporation: Software, Smartphones, Online, Games, Cloud Computing, IT Business Technology, Downloads
22:34 Cprossu sbp: communicator for the win.
22:35 sbp Nutscape (hmm, or should that be in NSFW) was terrrrible!
22:35 Cprossu it was fine.
22:35 Cprossu especially when compared to IE
22:36 sbp I remember 4.7 especially being sort of like the IE6 of today
22:36 Cprossu back then though
22:36 Cprossu if you go that far back
22:36 Cprossu google wasn't around really much
22:37 sbp chuckle. in the source of this 1997 page: <meta http-equiv="Bulletin-Text" content="Just Released: Microsoft Internet Explorer 3.0. Download it Today!">
22:37 Cprossu lol
22:37 sbp yeah, Altavista and Yahoo! as far as I remember
22:37 Cprossu netscape
22:37 Cprossu actually had their own search engine
22:37 Cprossu and it was great.
22:37 sbp that I don't remember. what was it called?
22:38 Cprossu http://web.archive.org/web/19981111190333/http://www86.netscape.com/
22:38 Cprossu let's see
22:38 Cprossu oh god rofl
22:38 sbp heh! I just clicked on the News section
22:38 sbp "Nation Waits for Florida Recount"
22:38 sbp fun times
22:38 sbp (apparently they don't have the news back to 1998, only 2000)
22:39 Cprossu Excite, Altavista, Infoseek, Looksmart, and Netscape searches
22:39 Cprossu well the archive itself didn't exist
22:39 Cprossu until fairly late
22:39 sbp vaguely remember FAST Search and AllTheWeb too. oh and Lycos
22:39 Cprossu some companies provided the old info to them though
22:39 sbp ah
22:40 Cprossu cern's sent their stuff in iirc
22:40 sbp are you sure? from Wikipedia: "The Archive began to archive the World Wide Web from 1996, but it did not make this collection available until 2001, when it developed the Wayback Machine."
22:40 Cprossu or not
22:40 Cprossu granted it started out
22:40 Cprossu and they didn't have much disk space
22:41 Cprossu where's the old archive.org interface?
22:41 Cprossu this is buggy as hell
22:41 sbp don't know. is it not in the Wayback Machine? :-)
22:42 Cprossu HAAHAHAHA
22:42 Cprossu sbp: http://web.archive.bibalex.org/web/19981111184551/http://google.com/
22:42 BotSteve Title: Google
22:42 Cprossu http://web.archive.bibalex.org/web/19990117032727/http://www.google.com/
22:42 BotSteve Title: Google
22:42 Cprossu HAHAHAHA
22:43 sbp you laugh, but I'll bet it worked better back then
22:43 Cprossu no
22:43 Cprossu it was shit.
22:43 sbp "Index contains ~25 million pages (soon to be much bigger)"
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22:56 Toastdude Hello?
22:57 JA12 greetings and salutations
23:00 Ponko oh no it's TOASTY
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23:20 Ponko ahhhhhhhhhHHHHHHHHH YOUU
23:21 Seroster OH NO!
23:21 Seroster Erm.
23:21 Seroster I mean.
23:21 Seroster I gotta go
23:21 Seroster :]
23:22 Seroster /kick Ponko Goodnight dear brit. =)
23:22 Ponko lol
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23:37 Ponko man i just remembered why i don't comment on youtube videos with an observation
23:37 Monkeh Ponko: Because you're always too late?
23:37 Experimentonomen blegh 7 in the morning my worst nightmare begins :( im beeing forced to take a cleaning job, that is mop floors and such
23:37 Ponko no the backlash you get for that
23:37 Experimentonomen i HATE cleaning!!!!
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23:53 yNos hows things going in here tonight?
23:53 lwq1996 hi ynos
23:54 lwq1996 we got a new member of the irc
23:54 lwq1996 idk where he went though
23:55 Hackbat Loving the Desert Bus For Hope Stream
23:55 lwq1996 lol
23:55 yNos cool
23:55 yNos who is thenew person?
23:55 yNos JA12?
23:56 JA12 what
23:56 JA12 I'm not new
23:56 lwq1996 no
23:56 lwq1996 lkaezadl3
23:57 lwq1996 hmm seems he has left
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23:58 wannabe1987 hi KawaiiJess
23:58 KawaiiJess Ohai

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