Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-02

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Time Nick Message
00:00 * Cprossu downloads UPLINK source code
00:00 Cprossu wooo!
00:00 Monkeh Cprossu: :D
00:00 * Cprossu is curious if their code is tidy
00:00 Monkeh Cprossu: Had it for years, mind, but SVN access is cool
00:00 Cprossu yeah it is
00:02 Monkeh Cprossu: In other code related news, I recently made the double-mistake of not only trying out GNOME 3, but trying Xfce again.
00:02 Cprossu ouch.
00:02 injektion lol
00:02 * Cprossu waves fluxbox around again
00:03 Cprossu but seriously, that sucks
00:03 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, by this point I could've made fluxbox work in a manner I like, I've spent so much time cleaning this crud off
00:03 injektion <3 fluxbox
00:03 sndwrx Awesome window manager.
00:04 injektion (I don't see why people think all of these visual effects are good)
00:04 sndwrx Precisely why I like Awesome.
00:05 Monkeh I don't care for visual effects, I want buttons and menus where I like them, and things to run smoothly.
00:05 Monkeh So far, GNOME 2 is the most usable option.
00:06 Cprossu as long as I get access to my command prompt I am usually happy.
00:06 Cprossu terminal=most important gui option for me
00:06 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, then there's the small issue with KDE 4 and GNOME 3 making it impossible to run my terminal of choice from the GUI.
00:06 injektion I like equal GUI to equal terminal
00:07 Monkeh "It's not integrated with our toolkit and desktop environment and session management and things. You can't use it." "Go fuck yourself."
00:08 Monkeh Uh oh
00:08 Monkeh Phone's whining at me for power
00:08 * Monkeh vanishes to find a cable or charger
00:08 Cprossu KDE4 as I think I've stated earlier was a train wreck
00:08 Cprossu still is
00:08 Cprossu 3.5 was a buggy mess that sometimes was usable
00:08 Monkeh Cprossu: It has good ideas. But just like GNOME 3 they're forcefully excluding anything and anyone who doesn't bend to their way.
00:08 Cprossu gnome was always least common denomenator dumb.
00:09 Monkeh Cprossu: Try GNOME 3. You'll be amazed. In a bad way.
00:09 * wannabe1987 wonders if she should have another pizza night at her new place some night
00:09 Monkeh Cprossu: You need a seperate app for an 'advanced options' box so you can do something as simple as display seconds or the date on the clock.
00:09 Cprossu yuck.
00:09 Monkeh I'd rather use OS X.
00:09 Monkeh And I absolutely hate OS X and find it unusable as a desktop OS.
00:10 wannabe1987 so it turns out my housemates don't cook.  much.  at all
00:10 Cprossu I'd rather just use stock X
00:10 Cprossu (done it before)
00:10 wannabe1987 so i'm going to rearrange parts of the kitchen
00:10 KernelTrap Monkeh: what problems do you have with it?
00:10 Monkeh KernelTrap: What, OS X?
00:10 KernelTrap yeah
00:10 Monkeh ...
00:10 Monkeh Yeah, you don't want that rant.
00:10 KernelTrap yes I do
00:10 Monkeh And I want my phone charged, so I'll be back.
00:10 KernelTrap I hear too many peopel saying that who can't explain why
00:10 Cprossu later
00:11 sndwrx I like OS X.
00:11 sndwrx I've been using a Windows computer all day and find myself trying to hit the hot keys that I'm used to.
00:12 sndwrx I really loathe using Windows.
00:12 Cprossu (by stock X I meant stock Xwindows)
00:12 sndwrx Right.
00:12 * Toastdude wishes he had a macbook
00:12 Cprossu I have a wallstreet you can beat your face in with Toastdude if you want
00:13 Toastdude What? lol
00:13 Cprossu (mac powerbook G3)
00:13 Toastdude Ah..
00:14 wannabe1987 poor sndwrx :(
00:14 KernelTrap also
00:14 KernelTrap got myself a pint bottle of maredsous 8
00:15 wannabe1987 :sigh: i hate being short!
00:15 Toastdude :D
00:15 wannabe1987 :D what?
00:15 sndwrx Short?  How tall are you?
00:16 Toastdude Cause I'm taller... :P
00:16 wannabe1987 5'7"
00:16 Toastdude why do you hate being short?
00:16 wannabe1987 but i can't see the top shelf in teh cupboard in teh kitchen :P
00:16 wannabe1987 even if i jump!
00:16 Toastdude Oh :P
00:16 * dbshortwave realises he needs to get out of these damn pants
00:16 sndwrx oh.  Right, you were wearing heels yesterday.
00:16 wannabe1987 yes
00:16 wannabe1987 2 inch heels
00:16 wannabe1987 the only pair of heels i'll wear, too
00:16 * Toastdude is 5'8"
00:17 wannabe1987 ....
00:17 wannabe1987 how can you be a "little" brother when you're taller than me?!
00:17 Toastdude :P
00:17 wannabe1987 and i am taller than my mom, by 3 inches....
00:18 dbshortwave <-- 5' 7"
00:19 dbshortwave but im fat
00:19 dbshortwave lol
00:19 wannabe1987 MARSHMALLOW!
00:19 Toastdude lol
00:19 dbshortwave fat
00:19 dbshortwave ;D
00:19 wannabe1987 sndwrx: how atll are you?
00:19 wannabe1987 tall
00:19 Toastdude atlatle!
00:20 wannabe1987 ?
00:20 Toastdude I failed at spelling
00:20 wannabe1987 clearly
00:20 Toastdude drop the e
00:21 Toastdude atlatl
00:21 wannabe1987 i'm still confused :P
00:21 * wannabe1987 listens to TSO :D
00:22 * wannabe1987 wonders how they'll do today's captn's blog
00:22 sndwrx Six foot, when I'm not slouched.
00:22 wannabe1987 not bad
00:22 Toastdude .wiki atlatl
00:22 BotSteve "An atlatl (Classical Nahuatl: ahtlatl [ˈaʔtɬatɬ]; English: /ˈɑːt.lɑːtəl/[1]| or /ˈæt.lætəl/) or spear-thrower is a tool that uses leverage to achieve greater velocity in dart-throwing." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlatl
00:23 Toastdude wannabe1987
00:23 wannabe1987 ooo ok
00:23 wannabe1987 why'd you say that?
00:23 masterofmonks .g thunderbird atlatl
00:23 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.thunderbirdatlatl.com/
00:23 Toastdude idk
00:24 wannabe1987 ok
00:24 wannabe1987 lol
00:24 wannabe1987 strange, but you fit in....
00:24 * wannabe1987 needs a step stool
00:24 wannabe1987 to keep in the kitchen
00:25 wannabe1987 but apparently nick, the guy that lives here, has little big planet on his ps3 :D so i can play again! :D
00:25 Toastdude lol
00:26 wannabe1987 i'll probably be all rusty :(
00:27 * wannabe1987 found a lower cupboard to use instead of the higher one :D
00:28 dbshortwave thought you typed you found a lover in the cupboard x.x
00:28 wannabe1987 yes
00:28 dbshortwave rof
00:28 * wannabe1987 cleans dbshortwave's glasses
00:29 dbshortwave now they all dirty
00:29 dbshortwave i had them clean
00:29 dbshortwave fast glance and semi slow off the wall mind
00:29 wannabe1987 lol
00:31 wannabe1987 i like the wood floor in the kitchen...its slippery in socks, so dancing works :D
00:31 HeartbreakOne joined #thegeekgroup
00:31 wannabe1987 now, if i were to only have a lead :sigh:
00:32 HeartbreakOne ...
00:32 wannabe1987 hi HeartbreakOne
00:32 wannabe1987 ............................
00:32 Toastdude There
00:32 Toastdude Yes Kelly?
00:32 wannabe1987 you
00:33 Toastdude What about me? :P
00:33 wannabe1987 i just had to explain the difference between an NES and an SNES to my housemate :sigh:
00:33 wannabe1987 GIRLS (most) are ignorant
00:33 Toastdude Wow..
00:35 Toastdude SNES is awesome.
00:35 masterofmonks wannabe1987: Atari 2600.
00:35 wannabe1987 shes playing donkey konng on the snes
00:35 NeWtoz SNES was my first console
00:35 wannabe1987 she didn't know what an snes was....SHE"S PLAYING ON IT
00:36 sndwrx NES was my first console.
00:36 Toastdude Mine too NeWtoz
00:36 injektion The sega genesis was my first console
00:36 sndwrx Then Colecovision, then SNES, Sega Genesis.
00:37 Monkeh|Lap joined #thegeekgroup
00:37 NeWtoz parents got it for me for christmas I think 1 year
00:37 masterofmonks http://www.wimp.com/afternoonsnack/
00:37 BotSteve Title: Afternoon snack. [VIDEO]
00:37 injektion I had a Sega Genesis, Sega 32x, Saturn, CD, and then the Dreamcast
00:37 injektion After the dreamcast I decided never to own another console
00:37 NeWtoz that changed my path in life
00:38 masterofmonks mmm dreamcast.
00:38 masterofmonks I played so much PSO on the dreamcast.
00:38 dbshortwave time for me to wander off
00:38 wannabe1987 pso?
00:38 wannabe1987 bye db
00:38 injektion Why have a console with horrible controls when you have a PC
00:38 dbshortwave ill be around
00:38 injektion wannabe1987, Phantasy Star Online
00:38 masterofmonks Phantasy Star Online.
00:38 dbshortwave just wont be able to respond
00:38 dbshortwave ;p
00:39 NeWtoz after the n64, I went to just computer games
00:39 Monkeh|Lap KernelTrap: Because it has stupidity.
00:39 masterofmonks Hey wannabe1987 did you ever watch that motorcycle video?
00:39 wannabe1987 no?
00:39 NeWtoz that is about the time I got introduced to my first LAN
00:39 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_zvEm1KyQ8
00:39 BotSteve Title: Epic Motorcycle FAIL - YouTube
00:40 sndwrx "it has  stupidity".  nice!
00:40 sndwrx haha.
00:41 * Toastdude gives message to MoM from wannabe: *slap* END MESSAGE
00:42 wannabe1987 thank you sir
00:42 Toastdude You're welcome wannabe
00:42 masterofmonks Your titles didn't save you did they?
00:42 wannabe1987 no
00:44 wannabe1987 i saw and i said "i hate my friends" and then x'd out
00:45 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: I want my insert key. I want my keymap. I also want my choice of hardware.
00:45 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: OS X is an unusable OS for my purposes.
00:46 wannabe1987 my dad told he can switch to lion now :D
00:46 wannabe1987 was told*
00:47 masterofmonks So who has been following this Carrier IQ deal?
00:47 tgg|yNos Cprossu: you around?
00:47 tgg|yNos egrsteve|away ?
00:47 tgg|yNos producerbill?
00:48 Toastdude tgg|yNos: Can I ask you a question about the member cards?
00:48 tgg|yNos sure
00:49 egrsteve|away no
00:51 tgg|yNos egrsteve|away: what dip settings for the color cameras we got in?
00:51 tgg|yNos the costars
00:51 Cprossu I am around now tgg|yNos
00:51 egrsteve|away is that the same ones as I have been mounting?
00:51 Sgt_Lemming morning all
00:51 tgg|yNos hiya
00:52 tgg|yNos am trying to get this bugger configured
00:52 Sgt_Lemming what bugger?
00:53 tgg|yNos our options ar: SHTR [aes|mes]
00:53 tgg|yNos ff [on|off]
00:53 wannabe1987 hi lem!
00:53 Sgt_Lemming lo wannabe1987
00:53 tgg|yNos blc [on|off]
00:53 Sadius joined #thegeekgroup
00:53 tgg|yNos video [A/I|dc]
00:54 egrsteve|away AES blc (on)
00:54 wannabe1987 hi Sadius
00:54 tgg|yNos y[on|off]
00:54 egrsteve|away video A/i|dc is lens iris control mode, that is lens dependent
00:54 tgg|yNos agc [on|off]
00:54 egrsteve|away agc auto gain control (on)
00:54 egrsteve|away y = ?
00:54 tgg|yNos yeah...
00:54 Toastdude mx+b
00:55 Toastdude :P
00:55 * wannabe1987 gives Toastdude a high five
00:55 egrsteve|away thanks toast
00:55 wannabe1987 .cookie Toastdude
00:55 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I baked you an oatmeal cookie!
00:55 tgg|yNos AWB1 on|off
00:55 Toastdude Haha, thanks :P
00:55 tgg|yNos AWB2 on|off
00:55 tgg|yNos sync int|l/l
00:55 egrsteve|away leave the awb1/2 alone
00:55 egrsteve|away syncc l/l
00:55 tgg|yNos auto white balance?
00:56 egrsteve|away i think so
00:56 egrsteve|away not sure why it has 2
00:56 tgg|yNos sync leave on int
00:56 egrsteve|away int works for now
00:56 tgg|yNos wtf is SHTR?
00:56 egrsteve|away where are these cameras going
00:57 tgg|yNos mes or aes
00:57 egrsteve|away probably shutter
00:57 egrsteve|away which the lens may or maynot ahve
00:57 egrsteve|away (probably not)
00:58 egrsteve|away what model is the camera?
00:58 tgg|yNos bad cable..
00:58 tgg|yNos bah
00:59 egrsteve|away I assume it's working then
01:00 tgg|yNos nah..
01:03 injektion Awesome new Nova episodes
01:04 Monkeh|Lap joined #thegeekgroup
01:05 Monkeh|Lap Well that was fucking annoying.
01:08 * wannabe1987 opens garlic container and takes a wiff
01:08 tgg|yNos yay
01:08 tgg|yNos it doesnt like you to nmake changes while it is on
01:11 Sgt_Lemming hey yNos, any jobs going at your work? :-P
01:11 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Get in line
01:12 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, sure! Feel like paying my airfare to get to the line? :-P
01:12 tgg|yNos ok
01:12 tgg|yNos back to the fun
01:12 tgg|yNos later all
01:12 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Sorry, I've got to get there first. ;)
01:12 * tgg|yNos waves
01:13 wannabe1987 lol
01:13 wannabe1987 bye
01:14 injektion http://video.pbs.org/video/2163057527
01:14 BotSteve Title: Video: The Fabric of the Cosmos: What Is Space? | Watch NOVA Online | PBS Video
01:15 sndwrx ugh, I really dislike Ubuntu.
01:15 wannabe1987 fanboi :P
01:16 sndwrx Are you saying Mac fan boy?
01:16 wannabe1987 yes
01:16 wannabe1987 fanboy :P
01:16 sndwrx nah.
01:17 sndwrx I just dislike Windows and Ubuntu.
01:17 wannabe1987 you don't like windows or ubuntu :P
01:17 sndwrx I especially dislike Ubuntu's Unity interface.
01:17 sndwrx Right, well, there are only about a million other distros that I do actually like...  :P
01:17 wannabe1987 i haven't used ubuntu lately
01:17 wannabe1987 well, then use them :P
01:19 sndwrx How the hell does Ubuntu not recognize the touchpad on a five or six year old Dell?
01:19 \_Obtuse you can disable unity
01:19 \_Obtuse i hate unity sooooooo much
01:19 \_Obtuse bad move on their part
01:20 * sndwrx nods.
01:20 sndwrx I know you can disable it, but I don't know how off-hand and haven't been arsed to look it up.
01:20 \_Obtuse This laptop still has ubuntu version 9
01:20 \_Obtuse its gotten quite mature that new updates haven't been providing me with too much
01:21 Sgt_Lemming sndwrx, dell are well known for changing device ID's on common devices
01:21 Sgt_Lemming so that they work with dell drivers, but not the manufacturer ones
01:21 \_Obtuse my first linux distro was my favorite ... knoppix
01:22 sndwrx That's funny, because I can't get the soundcard to work in Windows using drivers from the Dell site, but it works just fine in Ubuntu.
01:22 \_Obtuse A dude at my community college was using it on one of the computers and I was like "WHAT IS THAT?"
01:22 sndwrx And I know the touchpad worked in older versions of Ubuntu.
01:22 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Normally just the subsystem IDs.
01:23 Sgt_Lemming http://www.knoppix.net/ <--- knoppix still exists \_Obtuse
01:23 BotSteve Title: Knoppix Linux Boot CD, Download Disk and Documents, Discuss, Get Help
01:23 Sgt_Lemming also that is a pita of a nick
01:23 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Anyway, touchpads don't have IDs in the same way as PCI devices. ;)
01:23 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, they are generally USB devices, so yes they do
01:24 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Not five or six years ago they weren't.
01:24 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Or 3 years ago.
01:24 sndwrx Ugh.  The Ubuntu Firefox addon shows thumbnails of pages on Google searches?
01:24 Sgt_Lemming I beg to differ
01:24 Monkeh|Lap I admit I don't have a fresh off the line laptop right now.
01:24 Sgt_Lemming as I just recently pulled apart a 9 year old laptop and the trackpoint in it was USB
01:25 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Unusual.
01:25 Sgt_Lemming not really
01:25 Sgt_Lemming one of the reasons USB was developed was to replace PS/2 and serial inside laptops etc
01:26 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Never seen a USB touchpad on any laptop I've used, anyway.
01:26 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: And anyway, with normal USB devices, the ID is unimportant.
01:27 Sgt_Lemming the ID tells the system what the device is
01:27 Monkeh|Lap A touchpad would be an HID device. You might need to fiddle around to get it working right but the basic functions would work.
01:27 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: USB uses device classs remember.
01:27 Sgt_Lemming for most things
01:27 Sgt_Lemming it doesn't have too
01:27 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: And a touchpad would be an HID device.
01:28 Sgt_Lemming not necessarily
01:28 Sgt_Lemming also one of the device classes is "FFhBothVendor-specificIndicates that a device needs vendor specific drivers"
01:28 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Ask yourself why any manufacturer would build a laptop with a touchpad which doesn't work to allow you to install touchpad drivers.
01:29 Monkeh|Lap I would be very surprised to see any normal consumer or business laptop with a USB touchpad which is not an HID device.
01:29 Sgt_Lemming because they expect you to install it using the restore disc
01:29 wannabe1987 ugh
01:29 wannabe1987 why do i have so much *stuff*????
01:30 Sgt_Lemming cause you're a geek wannabe1987 :-P
01:30 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Find me a real-world example of a laptop with a USB touchpad which is not an HID device.
01:30 wannabe1987 most isn't geeky stuff tho!
01:31 wannabe1987 except, the kitchen stuff.  thats my geek specialty
01:32 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: I'd also be interested to see some examples of laptops made before 2009 with entirely USB input devices. All I've seen are still PS/2 because it's cheaper.
01:33 Sgt_Lemming actually no it's not Monkeh, having PS/2 requires another chip, USB just wires into a USB port on the southbridge
01:33 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: USB requires a chip.
01:34 Sgt_Lemming a host or a device?
01:34 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
01:34 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Most designs still had SIO chips until fairly recently.
01:34 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: The device. The chipset will obviously have the host side of things.
01:34 Sgt_Lemming the device ALWAYS requires a chip
01:35 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, and PS/2 was still vastly cheaper for a long, long time due to stocks.
01:35 Monkeh|Lap And USB is a far more complex bus to implement.
01:36 Sgt_Lemming at a software level yes, at a hardware level no
01:38 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Also at a firmware level. It's taken a long time for BIOS devs to get USB right.
01:38 Monkeh|Lap Then again, they're a special breed.
01:38 Monkeh|Lap And not in a good way.
01:39 Sgt_Lemming mainly because they are trying to build on top of a 20 year old software layer
01:39 Sgt_Lemming 30 years old now even
01:39 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Actually, just as a side note, nearly every USB-only desktop board I've seen still has an SIO chip on it
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01:49 * wannabe1987 watches BBT season 5
01:49 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
01:49 wannabe1987 and unpacks
01:49 wannabe1987 hi Hackbat, eadthem
01:49 Hackbat eyo
01:49 eadthem hey
01:49 eadthem poor camera
01:49 wannabe1987 yeah
01:51 wannabe1987 i think i've seen this episode....but good to start with number 1 anyway :D
01:52 wannabe1987 Toastdude: it all started with a big bang!
01:52 Toastdude :D
01:52 sndwrx What is BBT?
01:52 wannabe1987 big bang theory
01:52 sndwrx oh, right.
01:53 Monkeh|Lap An american sitcom with mild traces of funny. A rare beast.
01:53 wannabe1987 lol
01:54 * wannabe1987 needs a chair in here....
01:58 NeWtoz MILD TRACES?
01:58 NeWtoz !
01:58 wannabe1987 lol
01:58 wannabe1987 i like this show....
02:00 * NeWtoz walks away mumbling
02:00 wannabe1987 mumbling about what, NeWtoz?
02:00 wannabe1987 i like watching torrents, because theres no commercials
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02:01 wannabe1987 hi injektion
02:01 wannabe1987 welcome back
02:03 injektion Watching that nova episode changed my perspective >_<
02:03 wannabe1987 perspective on what?
02:04 injektion "the three-dimensional world is a kind of illusion and that the ultimate precise reality is the two-dimensional reality at the surface of the universe."
02:06 wannabe1987 hm
02:09 injektion I wish I couldn't comprehend it
02:09 wannabe1987 i can't comprehend it....so at least one of us does...
02:11 injektion Where's the alcohol I need to shut down for the night
02:12 wannabe1987 in the fridge
02:15 yNos egrsteve|away: thanks for the assist earlier
02:15 yNos Cprossu: samw ^
02:15 yNos **same
02:15 injektion Matter can theoretically be re-constructed from the edge of a black hole :|
02:18 wannabe1987 interesting
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02:20 wannabe1987 *knock knock knock* penny *knock knock knock* penny *knock knock knock* penny
02:20 injektion This is how I am going to spend my night http://goput.it/m1p.jpg
02:21 wannabe1987 yeah?
02:21 dbshortwave thats freakin horrable
02:22 dbshortwave not sure but i think i was flooded
02:22 wannabe1987 ?
02:22 dbshortwave its like everything stopped
02:22 y007ghg7- joined #thegeekgroup
02:27 Sgt_Lemming sigh
02:27 Sgt_Lemming fucking banks >_<
02:27 wannabe1987 what lem?
02:28 Sgt_Lemming 2 weeks after doing all the paperwork and bs to get me a card in the hackerspaces name
02:28 Sgt_Lemming so that I can buy supplys etc for the space
02:28 Sgt_Lemming I still don't have a card
02:28 wannabe1987 ...
02:28 Sgt_Lemming it was supposed to take 5 - 7 working days
02:28 Sgt_Lemming I gave it an extra few just to be sure
02:28 Sgt_Lemming but yeah, nothing
02:29 sndwrx What bank are you dealing with?
02:29 wannabe1987 call the bank?
02:33 wannabe1987 sndwrx: an austrailian bank :P
02:33 sndwrx oh, right.
02:35 Cprossu hrmmm
02:35 Cprossu stoppped!
02:36 wannabe1987 stopped whatZ
02:36 wannabe1987 ?
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02:41 wannabe1987 hi Guardianzozo
02:42 * dbshortwave throws hands up and yells out "I GIVE UP!"
02:43 wannabe1987 dbshortwave:  whats up?
02:43 * dbshortwave mumbles and grumbles
02:43 dbshortwave twice ive hurt myself
02:43 wannabe1987 doing what?
02:44 dbshortwave well first time was carrying my fat ass dell back inside form its cleaning this morning
02:44 dbshortwave tore the top layer of skin off my left hand side indesx first knuckle
02:45 dbshortwave and this time around adjusting my monitor
02:45 dbshortwave my right hand index finger
02:45 dbshortwave pinched it
02:45 wannabe1987 owwwww
02:45 Sgt_Lemming awww, diddums :-P
02:45 dbshortwave cut the cudical
02:46 dbshortwave both times "fuck, ahhhhh" came out
02:46 KawaiiJess joined #thegeekgroup
02:46 wannabe1987 hi jess
02:47 Sgt_Lemming dbshortwave, I gave myself a decent cut the other day...
02:47 Sgt_Lemming on a pair of tongs
02:47 KawaiiJess Sup wannabe1987
02:47 wannabe1987 not much...you?
02:47 eadthem ever try to push a pci slot blanking plate with your fingers and have it give way all the sudden
02:47 wannabe1987 tongs?
02:47 eadthem 2 good sized cuts  on both sides of a finger
02:47 KawaiiJess Oh y'know, just getting a job!
02:47 KawaiiJess WEWT
02:47 Sgt_Lemming .w tongs
02:47 BotSteve "Tongs are used for gripping and lifting tools, of which there are many forms adapted to their specific use." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongs
02:47 dbshortwave i can see that happening
02:47 dbshortwave some of them are wrather sharp
02:48 KawaiiJess That and today was World AIDS Day
02:48 wannabe1987 i know what tongs are....
02:48 wannabe1987 a job??? congrats
02:48 wannabe1987 yes, it was
02:48 KawaiiJess My friend Carly and I handed out around 1,000 condoms today in less than an hour
02:48 KawaiiJess It was nuts
02:48 wannabe1987 wow
02:48 injektion I need a ruler....
02:48 KawaiiJess Each person got 2-4 so we served something like 250-500 people
02:48 wannabe1987 ahhhh
02:49 KawaiiJess Still a shitload
02:49 wannabe1987 yeah
02:50 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, cheap pressed metal tongs, they had a rather sharp edge on the inside of them
02:50 wannabe1987 ahhhh
02:50 Sgt_Lemming reached into a sink full of dishes to grab them
02:51 Sgt_Lemming *SLICE*
02:51 wannabe1987 :(
02:54 wannabe1987 none of my room is getting done, but i'm on episode 4 of bbt :P
02:56 Toastdude Lol :P
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03:04 * Toastdude 's hand is internally bleeding
03:04 Toastdude PONKO!
03:07 wannabe1987 i'm losing it
03:08 wannabe1987 hi Ponko
03:08 wannabe1987 and how is it internally bleeding, toast?
03:08 Toastdude I played tennis.
03:08 wannabe1987 wii?
03:09 Toastdude No, bye
03:09 Toastdude Bye all
03:09 wannabe1987 ??????????????
03:09 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude that i miss him :(
03:09 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when toastdude is around.
03:10 wannabe1987 thansk BotSteve
03:10 wannabe1987 thanks*
03:10 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
03:10 BotSteve You're welcome, wannabe1987
03:19 dbshortwave i has dvd burner laser diode
03:20 dbshortwave need lens
03:20 dbshortwave >.>
03:20 dbshortwave and make a driver
03:20 dbshortwave burn things
03:20 dbshortwave ;]
03:21 wannabe1987 lol
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03:23 wannabe1987 kate!
03:23 Katemonster hi
03:28 dbshortwave oh that is much better
03:28 wannabe1987 how are you?
03:28 dbshortwave i had to get knuckle bandages eailer today and i LOVE the cloth ones
03:29 wannabe1987 same
03:29 Katemonster i'm kind of pissed about the new youtube front page
03:29 Katemonster but otherwise i'm just fucking tired.
03:30 Katemonster being friends with jessica is a training exercise in patience sometimes
03:30 dbshortwave yeah they all are makeing things look like facebook and myspace
03:30 wannabe1987 KawaiiJess?
03:30 dbshortwave I GOT AN IDEA lets go out and get hair cuts like justin beiber
03:30 Katemonster yeah
03:30 wannabe1987 db no
03:30 KawaiiJess Sup wannabe1987?
03:30 wannabe1987 nm.  just sayin hi
03:31 KawaiiJess Oh
03:32 dbshortwave sorry im oozing sacazem
03:32 wannabe1987 lol
03:32 wannabe1987 its ok db
03:32 Katemonster ice cream doesn't even sound good right now.  >:/
03:32 wannabe1987 mines at my parents house :(
03:33 wannabe1987 theres a piece of coax in my way...........................
03:33 Katemonster ha
03:33 Katemonster i have a carton of mint chocolate chip upstairs
03:33 Katemonster i thought about getting chocolate sauce on the way home
03:33 Katemonster and i was like "no, fuck ice cream."
03:34 Katemonster this is usually a sign of something being wrong
03:34 wannabe1987 yeah
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03:39 lwq1996 hey
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03:40 wannabe1987 LEE!  hi Photon939
03:40 Photon939 hi wannabe1987
03:40 wannabe1987 hi lwq1996
03:40 lwq1996 hi
03:41 Photon939 lol my room is a mess
03:41 Photon939 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1181169/P1000444.jpg
03:41 wannabe1987 i just moved into a new place today....mine too!
03:41 lwq1996 mine needs a little cleaning
03:41 wannabe1987 oh my
03:42 wannabe1987 :p
03:42 wannabe1987 Cprossu's is messier!
03:42 lwq1996 wow you take the messines award
03:42 Sgt_Lemming is that a laser photon?
03:42 Photon939 indeed, it needed a run
03:42 Sgt_Lemming nice
03:42 Photon939 heats up my room as a bonus
03:43 Sgt_Lemming lol
03:43 Photon939 JDSU 2214-40MLA
03:43 Photon939 multiline argon ion laser =D
03:44 lwq1996 omg you got a n64!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
03:44 lwq1996 Nintendo
03:44 Photon939 yup
03:44 wannabe1987 dude, theres a SNES here
03:45 Monkeh|Lap Photon939: Please tell me that N64 is plugged into your laser.
03:45 Photon939 haha i wish
03:45 Photon939 although I do have a laser projector I could connect to it
03:45 lwq1996 lol
03:46 Photon939 why does the geek group forum have to be such low density
03:46 Photon939 I wish they would condense it and maybe switch to a better forum software
03:46 eadthem dont worry it changes every couple months
03:46 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, there's a reason I don't use the forum.
03:47 Photon939 I'd like to be a forum contributor but there's nothing to pull your attention
03:47 Monkeh|Lap There's lots to hurt your eyes
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03:48 wannabe1987 agreed
03:48 wannabe1987 i don't like the forums either
03:49 Monkeh|Lap Also needs an injection of faster server.
03:50 * Monkeh|Lap ponders who he knows who could donate that
03:50 Photon939 no real point in a faster server until they fix the horrendous layout
03:50 Hackbat sooo happy
03:50 Hackbat got my big xmas presnt early
03:50 wannabe1987 ??
03:51 Photon939 what'cha get?
03:51 Monkeh|Lap I.. must resist.
03:52 wannabe1987 resist what?
03:52 wannabe1987 resistance is futile
03:53 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Resist the many shots I could take at Hackbat there. :P
03:53 Monkeh|Lap It's 4am so I'm feeling lazy.
03:53 wannabe1987 awwww
03:53 Hackbat http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/7048/
03:53 BotSteve Title: ThinkGeek :: Workstation Repair Tool Kit
03:53 wannabe1987 thinkgeek.com ftw
03:53 Hackbat it's a lil high in price but it's the best deal I found
03:53 wannabe1987 my sisters gifts from there arrived :D
03:53 Photon939 thinkgeek is spendy
03:54 Photon939 but they do have some neat stuff
03:54 Hackbat also I got geek points for it
03:54 wannabe1987 :)
03:54 Hackbat I've for 1475 now
03:54 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: Cute, if basic and cheap. Nice starter set, lets you see what you're missing. :)
03:54 Hackbat I plan on swapping the electric iron for a butane one
03:54 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: Trouble with butane is they're bulky and a bit hot.
03:54 Monkeh|Lap Convenient though
03:55 Monkeh|Lap And multi-purpose.
03:55 Hackbat not THAT bulky
03:55 Monkeh|Lap Hot knife. So handy.
03:55 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: I have some soldering to do between RAM slots on a motherboard when I get around to it. I'll not be using a butane torch for that. ;)
03:55 Monkeh|Lap The tip won't fit, and I like my plastic non-melty. :D
03:55 wannabe1987 lol
03:55 Hackbat the iron would be going in a second back up kit that wil stay in the car
03:56 Hackbat this I can carry into places with me with little fuss
03:56 Hackbat oh!
03:56 Hackbat business cards
03:56 Hackbat let me throw a few inside it
03:56 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: More useful for the case than the contents, then.
03:56 Hackbat exactly
03:57 * Monkeh|Lap generally fills a toolbox three times that volume with stuff, and then there's the screws and cables
03:57 Hackbat but it has a enough stuff to make up for it
03:57 Monkeh|Lap I believe in taking my workshop with me.
03:57 Hackbat Monkeh|Lap, that's be in the car
03:58 Hackbat *that'd
03:58 Hackbat I need a set of tools I can carry under my back seat
03:58 dbshortwave aaaaaand im off to bed
03:59 Hackbat dbshortwave doesn't understand that kevlar doesn't get much love if you know what I mean
04:01 wannabe1987 lol
04:01 wannabe1987 he stole the quote from Seroster
04:02 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude soft kitty purr purr purr
04:02 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when toastdude is around.
04:03 Hackbat it's sleepy kitty damnit D:<
04:03 wannabe1987 i know
04:03 wannabe1987 mrs cooper just sang it to sheldon
04:03 wannabe1987 soft kitty, warm kitty little ball of fur....
04:03 wannabe1987 happy kitty sleepy kitty purr purr purr
04:04 Hackbat *fuuuuuuur
04:04 Monkeh|Lap Or, in the case of my cats, FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU(r)
04:04 wannabe1987 ?
04:05 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Never have a long haired cat.
04:05 wannabe1987 lol
04:05 wannabe1987 i won't
04:05 Monkeh|Lap Unless you like breathing it.
04:05 wannabe1987 i'm allergic :P  i'll like shortaired cats better
04:05 Monkeh|Lap Ah, allergies. I've heard of such things.
04:05 * Monkeh|Lap does not suffer so long as you don't mention latex
04:05 wannabe1987 LATEX
04:06 wannabe1987 theres a reason they use non-latex glvoes.
04:06 Monkeh|Lap *massive rash*
04:06 * wannabe1987 gives benadryl
04:06 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: That will do pretty much nothing.
04:06 wannabe1987 yeah?
04:08 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Not a lot of effect on this level of dermatitis.
04:08 wannabe1987 i've heard about that :P
04:09 Monkeh|Lap But that's okay, because I can walk around in the summer without sneezing my guts out.
04:09 Monkeh|Lap Fair trade.
04:09 wannabe1987 lol
04:09 wannabe1987 i can too!  the spring is what bothers me....
04:10 Monkeh|Lap I just need to break my really, really bad habit of not wearing gloves when working with chemicals before it does me no good
04:10 wannabe1987 lol
04:13 wannabe1987 "i tried to scare an indian with a snake...i'm better than that"
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04:15 tehdark45 Hey guys
04:15 tehdark45 It's been a while
04:16 tehdark45 lol
04:26 masterofmonks .c 2957/24
04:26 BotSteve 123.208333
04:27 masterofmonks Maybe I will reboot this weekend just to mix things up.
04:27 wannabe1987 yeah?
04:27 wannabe1987 bats!
04:27 BatSteve whatup
04:27 wannabe1987 i moved today!
04:28 BatSteve Congratulations!  How much movement?
04:28 wannabe1987 from my grandmas house to my own place in some guys basement....2 others rent rooms down here
04:28 wannabe1987 and none of them cook.....so i pretty much have the kitchen to myself :D
04:28 wannabe1987 win
04:28 masterofmonks Hmm, according to this email message I have received from "facebook" Steph is on cam, and apparently wants to show me her private places.
04:29 wannabe1987 noone gets to tell me i set the kitchen up "wrong"
04:29 masterofmonks Apparently this is also a limited time offer.
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04:29 Katemonster nice one, Kaitlyn.
04:30 wannabe1987 lol
04:30 masterofmonks Sign number 37.5 of meglomania, referring to one's self in the third person.
04:30 Katemonster i went to type /query and instead my autopilot typed /quit
04:30 BatSteve wannabe1987: how'd you find the place?
04:30 wannabe1987 craigslist
04:31 Katemonster 37..... point 5?
04:31 Katemonster what's number 37?
04:31 Katemonster Katie wants to know
04:31 masterofmonks Referrign to ones self in the second person.
04:32 Katemonster i....... am not really even sure how to do that.
04:32 Katemonster /perplexed-face
04:32 masterofmonks Let me know when you figure that one out.
04:32 wannabe1987 i'm confused too
04:33 BatSteve I used to know what the second person was, I've forgotten
04:34 lwq1996 you know i hate it when i cant find my headphones
04:34 masterofmonks .wik second person
04:34 BotSteve "A grammatical person, you, your and yours in the English language" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_person
04:35 masterofmonks http://i.imgur.com/2s5Qg.jpg
04:38 tehdark45 lwq1996, how did you lose them\
04:38 lwq1996 idk.....
04:38 lwq1996 i just cant find them
04:38 tehdark45 lwq1996, clean your room?
04:38 tehdark45 :P
04:38 lwq1996 its tiddy enoughi should be able to find them but i cant
04:38 lwq1996 and its
04:38 lwq1996 11:30 and my bro is sleeping
04:39 tehdark45 is he older or younger?
04:39 wannabe1987 older
04:39 wannabe1987 and i should be in bed :hmmm:
04:39 tehdark45 I am in bed
04:39 tehdark45 lol
04:39 masterofmonks I have a spatula.
04:40 wannabe1987 i have to get up at 6....:(
04:40 tehdark45 masterofmonks has won
04:40 wannabe1987 he always win
04:40 wannabe1987 s
04:40 lwq1996 wannabe i run on 2hours of sleep each night
04:40 masterofmonks wannabe1987: 0530 here.
04:40 wannabe1987 BotSteve: spatula
04:40 wannabe1987 why so early?!
04:40 masterofmonks wannabe1987: I work?
04:40 wannabe1987 o
04:40 wannabe1987 i'm h3lping out at school
04:40 lwq1996 oh
04:41 masterofmonks Can that turn into work?
04:41 lwq1996 what you helping with?
04:41 tehdark45 does the 3 make it extra helpful?
04:41 wannabe1987 no, it cannot
04:42 wannabe1987 its a one day a year thing....where the kids buy their family christmas gifts
04:42 lwq1996 ah i see
04:42 lwq1996 we have that at our school
04:42 wannabe1987 crud.  i need a calculator.......................................
04:42 masterofmonks .c 2+2
04:42 BotSteve 4
04:43 Sgt_Lemming hinteresting...
04:43 Sgt_Lemming flat winding wire
04:43 Sgt_Lemming could be good for making a tesla...
04:43 tehdark45 so while your school is helping kids with christmas mine is ousting corrupt student accociaion memnbers
04:43 tehdark45 members*
04:43 Sgt_Lemming fun
04:43 Sgt_Lemming corrupt as in taking bribes, or stealing money?
04:44 tehdark45 stealing millions
04:44 Sgt_Lemming wow
04:44 lwq1996 anyone want to get me a great gift for christmas/birthday here it is http://www.ebay.com/itm/CALRAD-VC-5-VARIABLE-TRANSFORMER-VARIAC-115V-5A-INPUT-0-130V-OUTPUT-TESTED-/190608817445?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2c612bbd25#ht_830wt_1141
04:44 BotSteve Title: CALRAD VC-5 VARIABLE TRANSFORMER VARIAC - 115V 5A INPUT - 0-130V OUTPUT - TESTED | eBay
04:44 Sgt_Lemming that's pretty harsh
04:44 wannabe1987 your elementary school?
04:44 tehdark45 actually uni but ok then
04:44 tehdark45 http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&amp;gl=ca&amp;tbm=nws&amp;q=kwantlen+student+association&amp;oq=kwantl&amp;aq=2z&amp;aqi=d1g-z2d-o1&amp;aql=&amp;gs_sm=c&amp;gs_upl=706l1383l0l2801l6l5l0l4l4l0l97l97l1l1l0
04:44 BotSteve Title: kwantlen student association - Google Search
04:45 Photon939 cute little autotransformer
04:46 lwq1996 i need to get a bench power supply
04:46 tehdark45 wannabe1987, i dont think elementary has student associations anyway
04:47 wannabe1987 no, but thats where i'm headed.....but at 7:00a my car needs to be at the shop
04:47 tehdark45 lwq1996, you have one. but that would make your computer not work
04:47 tehdark45 lol
04:47 lwq1996 what?
04:47 lwq1996 a computer charger
04:48 tehdark45 you have a desktop
04:48 tehdark45 ?
04:48 lwq1996 lol no i have laptop
04:48 tehdark45 oh
04:48 lwq1996 OH I GET WHERE YOUR GOING AT
04:48 lwq1996 ;)
04:48 tehdark45 well its good for low voltage
04:48 tehdark45 i guess
04:48 tehdark45 lol
04:49 tehdark45 wannabe1987, are they metricated at your shop?
04:49 lwq1996 OH I HAVE THIS THING I BOUGHT FROM WALMART THAT REGULATES VOLTAGE, it one of those replacement variable power supplys
04:49 wannabe1987 ??
04:50 tehdark45 wannabe1987, you havn't see the mac battery autopsy?
04:50 wannabe1987 no....and what does that have to do with my heat/struts on my car?!
04:51 tehdark45 OMG
04:51 wannabe1987 i don't watch autopsies
04:51 tehdark45 what is wrong with you??
04:51 tehdark45 :P
04:52 wannabe1987 i have boobs and a vagina and don't find autopsies (of the electrical sort) to be fun to watch....now a human one?  sure sign me up!
04:53 * lwq1996 does a spit take
04:53 wannabe1987 spit take?
04:53 wannabe1987 http://gizmodo.com/5864195/the-worlds-biggest-insect-is-so-freaking-huge-it-can-eat-a-carrot EWWWWW
04:53 BotSteve Title: The World's Biggest Insect Is So Freaking Huge It Can Eat a Carrot
04:53 wannabe1987 and the comments are wosre
04:53 wannabe1987 ew ew ew ew  ew
04:54 lwq1996 when you spit water when your surprised
04:54 lwq1996 wannabe i want one as a pet :P
04:54 wannabe1987 ewwwww
04:54 tehdark45 wannabe1987, heres the link to educate yourslef on how mac batterys relate to cars http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=tEwcKjLQMBM#t=244s
04:54 BotSteve Title: Equipment Autopsy - MacBook Battery - YouTube
04:55 wannabe1987 i dont' *normally* get grossed out for bugs but ew
04:55 tehdark45 batteries*
04:55 wannabe1987 no thanks tehdark45
04:55 tehdark45 your loss
04:55 wannabe1987 its like bed time
04:55 tehdark45 only like?
04:55 wannabe1987 i need SLEEP i'm dealing with CHILDREN alllll day
04:56 wannabe1987 yeah, because the pillows don't have cases and the clothes are not in the dresser :P
04:56 wannabe1987 and i'm not wearing the same clothes 2 days in a road
04:56 * lwq1996 shiver
04:56 wannabe1987 row*
04:56 tehdark45 o your naked on the road?
04:56 lwq1996 children
04:56 tehdark45 :P
04:56 wannabe1987 idk where road came from
05:00 * lwq1996 slaps chat awake
05:00 * wannabe1987 falls off her bed
05:00 wannabe1987 thanks lee
05:00 * tehdark45 falls into bed
05:00 wannabe1987 you were already there
05:01 tehdark45 i know. im doing the opposite of falling off
05:01 tehdark45 :P
05:02 * tehdark45 bump?
05:03 tehdark45 we need the defib!
05:03 Katemonster night mom
05:04 lwq1996 lol
05:04 lwq1996 anyone got a cheap lab power supply?
05:04 wannabe1987 yeah, here in my back pocket :P
05:04 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996, three of them
05:04 egrsteve|away define cheap lab supply
05:04 lwq1996 1 to 50dollars
05:05 tehdark45 lwq1996, how much power>
05:05 tehdark45 ?*
05:06 lwq1996 eh somthing to 1volt to maby 40 or 50 if you can get one in that price range that can do 100 volts and 50 amps i will love you forever
05:07 egrsteve|away take a look at this if you want cheap http://www.mbeckler.org/powersupply/
05:07 BotSteve Title: ATX to Lab Bench Power Supply Conversion :: mbeckler.org
05:08 tehdark45 make your own?
05:08 lwq1996 no buy
05:08 egrsteve|away lee, a cheap 0 to 30v 3 amp supply will cost over $100
05:08 lwq1996 damn
05:08 egrsteve|away let a alone a double supply
05:08 lwq1996 ok find me a 15v at 2-4 amps
05:08 egrsteve|away the atx mod is your best low cost option
05:09 wannabe1987 sndwrx: you there?
05:09 tehdark45 only problem is atx only does 12V
05:10 lwq1996 i dont want something that is hacked together, and im not skilled enough to make a supply yet after i get one
05:10 egrsteve|away http://www.mpja.com/Bench-Supplies/products/2/
05:10 BotSteve Title: Bench Supplies-MPJA, Inc.
05:11 lwq1996 this is a good one steve http://www.mpja.com/0-30V-0-3A-Variable-Benchtop-Power-Supply/productinfo/9616+PS/
05:11 BotSteve Title: 0-30V, 0-3A Variable Benchtop Power Supply-MPJA, Inc.
05:11 lwq1996 thanks steve
05:12 egrsteve|away 200mv ripple not the cleanest supply
05:12 egrsteve|away but cheap
05:12 egrsteve|away 1% regulation, not too bad
05:12 lwq1996 yes
05:13 lwq1996 nice thing for what i will be doing...
05:13 egrsteve|away it is a switching not linear so expect some high frequency noise
05:13 egrsteve|away that noise should be less than 200mv
05:13 lwq1996 thats fine, i have a radio :P
05:13 egrsteve|away hence less than 200mv ripple
05:14 lwq1996 yup
05:14 egrsteve|away don't expect a big heavy tek supply here
05:14 egrsteve|away this is a cheap asian built one
05:14 egrsteve|away but given your budget it may be sutable
05:15 lwq1996 ik
05:15 egrsteve|away this one is better http://www.mpja.com/0-30V-0-3A-Mini-Bench-Supply/productinfo/9615+PS/
05:15 BotSteve Title: 0-30V, 0-3A Mini Bench Supply-MPJA, Inc.
05:15 egrsteve|away for regulation
05:18 lwq1996 eh, i like the other one better :P
05:19 egrsteve|away ok, but the latter has better regulation, the voltage will vary less as you load it
05:19 lwq1996 hmmmm
05:20 * wannabe1987 realized she can't change in her room yet :sign:
05:20 wannabe1987 sigh*
05:20 BatSteve why not?
05:20 BatSteve no door?
05:20 wannabe1987 no curtains :P
05:20 lwq1996 camera?
05:20 lwq1996 damn
05:21 tehdark45 wannabe1987, its called a bathroom
05:21 wannabe1987 whoa, he's brilliant
05:21 wannabe1987 i know
05:21 BatSteve curtains are not necessary, just turn the lights off
05:21 wannabe1987 i said IN MY ROOM
05:21 lwq1996 eh, screw the neighbors let them look
05:21 BatSteve it's dark
05:21 wannabe1987 i have two computers on....its not dark :P
05:21 tehdark45 oh ok
05:21 wannabe1987 see?
05:22 tehdark45 wannabe1987, your killing the animals
05:22 tehdark45 lol
05:22 lwq1996 i say if the neighbors want a show give them one :P
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05:22 egrsteve|away no, i'm not there
05:22 wannabe1987 here comes number 2....
05:22 lwq1996 lol
05:22 wannabe1987 who said the neighbors wanted a show?
05:22 lwq1996 lol im kidding
05:22 lwq1996 i dont give a shit who's watching
05:23 wannabe1987 methinks lee needs to work on kidding better
05:23 wannabe1987 i don't normally, but i just met these people :P
05:23 lwq1996 lol
05:23 tehdark45 maybe lee wants to see O_o
05:23 wannabe1987 lee is too far away
05:23 * lwq1996 slaps tehdark45
05:23 wannabe1987 ands top being a perv
05:24 lwq1996 wannabe maby i have a telescope :P
05:24 wannabe1987 lee is too far away
05:24 * lwq1996 hacks hubble telescope
05:24 tehdark45 he hacks your webcam?
05:24 * lwq1996 homes in on where wannabe is
05:24 wannabe1987 you don't know my address, it has changed
05:24 tehdark45 lol
05:24 lwq1996 idk where she even is staying tonight
05:24 wannabe1987 what city am i in....
05:25 lwq1996 idk
05:25 wannabe1987 good luck then!
05:25 lwq1996 wannabe i dont want to see you naked
05:26 wannabe1987 .................i don't get naked getting ready for bed
05:26 wannabe1987 but ok?
05:26 wannabe1987 BatSteve save this convo!
05:26 lwq1996 ok whatever in your underwear
05:26 BatSteve I created a generator the other day that will run forever on it's own power
05:27 wannabe1987 yeah?
05:27 BatSteve Sure will
05:27 tehdark45 wannabe1987, holland?
05:27 tehdark45 MI
05:27 lwq1996 i so want this http://www.goodluckbuy.com/pushbutton-push-button-with-key-switch-zb2-be102c.html
05:27 wannabe1987 no................
05:27 BotSteve Title: Pushbutton Push Button with Key Switch ZB2-BE102C $5.16 Free Shipping @GoodLuckBuy.com
05:28 tehdark45 wannabe1987, your whois is not being truthful then :P
05:28 wannabe1987 ok
05:28 BatSteve it is doing it's job and keeping creepers away from her windows
05:28 tehdark45 Lol
05:28 wannabe1987 mhm
05:28 lwq1996 lol
05:29 wannabe1987 like lee and tehdark45
05:29 tehdark45 but IP isnt exact anyway so good luck finding someone with it
05:30 tehdark45 wannabe1987, not a creeper, just answeing your question of where you are
05:30 wannabe1987 right
05:30 tehdark45 or trying
05:31 tehdark45 yeah
05:31 lwq1996 tehdark45 lives in washington dc :P
05:31 tehdark45 wow that is so off
05:31 tehdark45 buy about 3 time zones
05:31 tehdark45 im PST >.>
05:31 lwq1996 lol
05:32 tehdark45 I'm in BC if anyone forgot
05:32 lwq1996 thats where your irc client is thats why
05:32 lwq1996 BC?
05:32 tehdark45 yep
05:33 lwq1996 what state is that
05:33 wannabe1987 lee
05:33 wannabe1987 its in canada
05:33 wannabe1987 they have provinces
05:33 tehdark45 haha
05:34 tehdark45 oh and lee, try looking up my IP with an ip lookup
05:34 lwq1996 oh
05:34 tehdark45 it gives you beter info
05:34 lwq1996 nah to lazy
05:35 tehdark45 lwq1996,  aparenty your in switzerland
05:36 lwq1996 hahahahahaha thats not even in my country
05:36 tehdark45 loll
05:36 tehdark45 or continent
05:37 lwq1996 yup
05:38 BatSteve Time to go.  Bye gang.
05:39 lwq1996 omg transformers on howitsmade
05:40 Sgt_Lemming link?
05:40 tehdark45 lwq1996, its filled with magic and oil :P
05:40 lwq1996 its on tv
05:40 lwq1996 no little ones
05:41 lwq1996 the ones that are mots
05:41 tehdark45 lwq1996, those arn't small (in output that is)
05:41 lwq1996 believe it or not these are good computers http://www.goodluckbuy.com/7-tft-lcd-screen-windows-ce-5-0-umpc-netbook-laptop-arm926ej-s-266mhz-cpu--ems-.html
05:41 BotSteve Title: 7" TFT LCD Screen Windows CE 5.0 UMPC Netbook Laptop (ARM926EJ-S 266MHz CPU) * EMS $216.49 Free Shipping @GoodLuckBuy.com
05:41 lwq1996 ik tehdark
05:42 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996, good luck getting software for it
05:42 Sgt_Lemming windows CE is dying rapidly
05:42 tehdark45 CE 5???
05:42 lwq1996 ik....i had one
05:42 Sgt_Lemming I should know, I have windows CE based phone...
05:42 lwq1996 software was a bitch to get
05:42 lwq1996 i want a ce7 computer
05:42 Sgt_Lemming no such thing as ce7
05:42 lwq1996 i used it to irc thats about it :P
05:43 lwq1996 i thought they came out with it
05:43 tehdark45 they did
05:43 Sgt_Lemming there is windows phone 7, but it has almost nothing in common with CE
05:43 tehdark45 Windows Compact 7
05:43 tehdark45 http://blogs.msdn.com/b/mikehall/archive/2010/06/01/windows-embedded-compact-7-aka-ce7-tech-preview-available-now.aspx
05:43 BotSteve Title: MSDN Blogs
05:43 Sgt_Lemming ah, news to me
05:44 lwq1996 :P
05:45 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, you should have known first, since your almost the first to become tomorrow :P
05:45 Sgt_Lemming lol
05:45 Sgt_Lemming I don't think there are any NZ people or south pacific islanders in here
05:45 Sgt_Lemming so only people in melbourne, sydney or hobart would be at me cause of daylight savings
05:47 wannabe1987 hmmmm i think i can go to sleep now....i have a pillow cased and some laundry put away....
05:48 lwq1996 someone want to go make me a sandwich
05:48 lwq1996 botsteve make me a sandwich
05:48 lwq1996 .sandwich
05:48 BotSteve Here you go, lwq1996, I made you a phily chesse stake on italian sandwich!
05:49 * lwq1996 slaps botsteve
05:49 lwq1996 NOW BE MY ITCH
05:53 wannabe1987 itch?
05:53 lwq1996 bitch -.-
05:54 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, if you wanted to go to tgg it would be a bitch for you lol
05:54 Sgt_Lemming tell me about it, and I really REALLY REALLY wanna go there atm :-D
05:55 lwq1996 when lemming me and tehdark goes to tgg they will both be my bitches
05:55 tehdark45 MEL -> LAX -> BOS -> BWI -> GRR
05:56 Sgt_Lemming try BNE > MEL > LAX > BOX > BWI > GRR :-P
05:56 lwq1996 what?
05:56 tehdark45 lwq1996, if you are from 1996, you will be ours
05:56 tehdark45 :P
05:57 * lwq1996 gets his but plug
05:57 lwq1996 butt*
05:57 tehdark45 lol
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05:58 tehdark45 lwq1996, that plug will be hooked up to gemini
05:58 tehdark45 :P
05:58 lwq1996 ik, its so i dont get raped
05:59 tehdark45 yrah but you will be shocked
05:59 tehdark45 yeah*
06:00 lwq1996 tehdark, ik how to run gemini i will stick you in the cage and fire it
06:01 lwq1996 i should go to bed :P
06:01 tehdark45 um so does anyone who watched the videos
06:01 lwq1996 ik but still
06:01 tehdark45 turn key, spark gap, variacs, fire
06:02 lwq1996 night everyone,
06:02 lwq1996 lol
06:02 tehdark45 and sirens
06:02 tehdark45 ofc
06:02 wannabe1987 night
06:02 * wannabe1987 hugs lwq1996
06:02 wannabe1987 i'm going to bed as welll
06:02 * lwq1996 hugs back
06:02 * tehdark45 group hug
06:02 wannabe1987 w00t 5 hrs of sleep
06:02 wannabe1987 ewwww
06:02 wannabe1987 get away from me
06:02 lwq1996 lol
06:02 lwq1996 you dont like tehdark?
06:02 wannabe1987 he's a stranger
06:03 wannabe1987 !!!!STRANGER DANGER!!!!
06:03 lwq1996 so am i!!!
06:03 wannabe1987 yes but i've texted and fb'd you
06:03 lwq1996 its only rape if your not willing
06:03 tehdark45 supriz butt seks
06:03 lwq1996 ever meet me?
06:03 wannabe1987 i will not be willing for a while
06:03 tehdark45 lol
06:03 wannabe1987 not yet
06:03 lwq1996 o.o
06:04 lwq1996 not till you get married
06:04 tehdark45 lol
06:04 lwq1996 omg there was a name on tv, a guy is named justin harnes fucker
06:04 tehdark45 if we were in the lab we probably wouldnt realise who we were
06:04 lwq1996 lol
06:04 lwq1996 tehdark do you have a fb?
06:05 tehdark45 stalker
06:05 tehdark45 :P
06:05 lwq1996 http://www.facebook.com/lwq1996
06:05 tehdark45 I haz a fb, twitter, G+
06:06 lwq1996 well add me :P
06:06 tehdark45 your... a muppet O_o
06:06 lwq1996 i can creat a guy with a mustach :{D
06:06 lwq1996 yes, beaker :P
06:07 tehdark45 wats w? middle name?
06:07 lwq1996 yes :P
06:07 tehdark45 wanker?
06:07 tehdark45 :P
06:07 wannabe-zz night!
06:08 lwq1996 -.- no, william
06:08 lwq1996 night wannabe
06:08 lwq1996 have fun with the kids
06:08 wannabe-zz and i won't be on frm like 7 till 5 or something crazy o.O
06:08 lwq1996 k
06:08 tehdark45 lwq1996, pedobear likes that sentence ;)
06:09 lwq1996 i was thinking the same thing XD
06:09 lwq1996 you gona add me on fb?
06:10 tehdark45 your abit behind
06:11 lwq1996 yup
06:11 lwq1996 well idc, imgoign to bed
06:11 lwq1996 later
06:11 tehdark45 i added you >.<
06:11 tehdark45 :P
06:11 tehdark45 seen cheezmo
06:11 tehdark45 .seen cheezemo
06:12 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen cheezemo around.
06:12 tehdark45 .seen cheezmo
06:12 BotSteve tehdark45: I last saw cheezmo 76.11 hours ago at 2011-11-29 02:05:54 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:12:14 UTC
06:13 tehdark45 do you guys like the new youtube layout?
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06:47 douglas hai
06:49 Sgt_Lemming lo douglas
06:49 Sgt_Lemming long time no see
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07:50 tehdark45 I see
07:53 tehdark45 what you guys uup to
08:13 Photon939 I'm currently working on a 1.5 watt infrared laser
08:18 Sgt_Lemming eh, I'm working on acquiring 150w infrared LASER :-P
08:18 Sgt_Lemming and yes, LASER should be capitalized
08:18 Photon939 what kind?
08:19 Photon939 indeed it should
08:19 Sgt_Lemming a cookie to the first person who can say what LASER stands for
08:19 Sgt_Lemming no googling!
08:19 tehdark45 woot for right spelling
08:19 tehdark45 lol
08:19 tehdark45 no z
08:19 Photon939 light amplification by the stimulated emission of radiation
08:19 Sgt_Lemming well done
08:19 Photon939 YAG? CO2? diode?
08:20 Sgt_Lemming CO²
08:20 tehdark45 150w? you plan on melting the moon?
08:20 tehdark45 :P
08:20 Photon939 ahh
08:20 Photon939 I have a little 40W CO2
08:20 Sgt_Lemming laser cutter tehdark45
08:20 tehdark45 ah
08:20 tehdark45 CNC?
08:20 Sgt_Lemming oh course
08:20 Photon939 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1181169/P1000319.jpg
08:23 Photon939 <3 gas lasers
08:49 Sgt_Lemming eh, I'd prefer a high powered solid state laser, but they are HEXPENSIVE
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08:58 tehdark45 just get some LEDs and pretend you have a high power solid state. They do use diodes, so it technically true
08:58 tehdark45 lol
08:58 Ponko lol my laptop was on last night and i didn't even realise till 5am
08:58 Ponko flipping thing
09:03 Photon939 hmm, tiny photodiode
09:04 Photon939 puts out like 0.5v 0.5mA
09:04 Photon939 right next to a CFL
09:05 Photon939 2.5uA in ambient light
09:05 Seroster OI
09:06 Ponko L O
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09:07 Druidic_Rifleman Any one awake
09:07 Photon939 nope
09:08 Druidic_Rifleman Any one know an afforsable CAD program?
09:09 Sgt_Lemming Druidic_Rifleman, sketchup is freem and fairly powerful
09:10 Ponko it's a reliable sauce i take Sgt_Lemming.....
09:10 Sgt_Lemming ...?
09:11 Ponko think about it
09:11 Ponko what's it's name
09:11 Sgt_Lemming 404, funny not found
09:11 * Ponko sighs
09:11 * Ponko fails
09:12 Druidic_Rifleman hmmmm sketchup is it easy to use?
09:12 Sgt_Lemming yeah
09:12 Seroster^Away Time to go cuss inside my grandparents dishwasher! YAY!
09:12 Sgt_Lemming it has a pretty decent built in tutorial
09:12 Sgt_Lemming it's a commercial product, but google bought the company and now there is a free version
09:12 Druidic_Rifleman cool
09:13 Druidic_Rifleman I wanna Redo an M203 sight i developed
09:19 Ponko ok new look youtube
09:21 Druidic_Rifleman goes black at 10 minutes in
09:22 Ponko just went to make a round of toast and i come back and youtube just changed when i sat down o_O
09:23 Druidic_Rifleman Comes back at 12
09:23 Druidic_Rifleman ish
09:26 Druidic_Rifleman i am really curious if the Geek group could make a Reall Version of the M203 sight i designed...
09:39 Druidic_Rifleman sooo did i disconect
10:07 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=GfjorMkjYPM
10:08 BotSteve Title: Dumb Ideas.mp4 - YouTube
10:59 killaway rofl
10:59 killakee lovely
11:01 killakee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WjiFAGaN-0
11:01 BotSteve Title: Dumbass kids get the merry go round spinning by using a scooter ! - YouTube
11:01 killakee :D
11:01 killakee thats a bad idea to :)
11:06 masterofmonks killakee: is that video NSFL/NSFW?
11:07 * wannabe-zz wakes up
11:09 killakee nsfl?
11:09 killakee whats that ?
11:11 masterofmonks Not Safe For Life.
11:11 killakee moahaha.. you can say that :D
11:12 killakee i wouldnt have done that
11:12 masterofmonks Right, in the future please refrain from posting such things in this channel.
11:12 killakee would you ?
11:12 masterofmonks They may however be posted in :nsfw
11:12 killakee nsfw ?
11:13 killakee hmm
11:13 killakee ok
11:13 masterofmonks #tgg:nsfw
11:13 killakee didnt know thanx
11:16 masterofmonks .tgg
11:16 masterofmonks Nope, not yet.
11:16 Av_Nekoroms yay chris has new camera :)
11:16 wannabe-zz yay
11:17 wannabe1987 there
11:18 killakee <Av_Nekoroms>has he bought a new one now ?
11:18 killakee or just the one that he borows ?
11:18 Av_Nekoroms i dunno
11:18 Av_Nekoroms i didnt see the new cd yet
11:18 killakee ah..
11:18 Av_Nekoroms CB
11:19 Av_Nekoroms looks like it could be some older camera
11:19 killakee hopes he get new on soon .. couse the one he had on the last blog was .. eh , a toy junk thing XD
11:19 killakee bet its a e90 or something XD
11:20 Av_Nekoroms dang this camera is craptacular
11:20 killakee oh yeah
11:20 Sgt_Lemming yeah
11:20 Sgt_Lemming completely missed everything paul bought >_<
11:20 killakee and the picture goes black sometimes..
11:20 killakee i knowwwwww
11:20 killakee :S
11:20 killakee that sucked
11:20 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APtj3EvhfWA <--- NESFW
11:20 BotSteve Title: Alex Gaudino Feat. Christal Waters - Destination Calabria - YouTube
11:21 killakee woff
11:21 killakee :)
11:22 Sgt_Lemming I love the fact there are actually only 4 dancers in the clip
11:22 Sgt_Lemming all the shots of more than 4 are post processing
11:22 killakee cool
11:23 killakee xpensive music video ;)
11:24 killakee oh my they have borked youtube bad :S
11:26 Sgt_Lemming eh
11:26 Sgt_Lemming I never look at the youtube fornt page anyway
11:26 killakee new layout ..
11:26 killakee me no likey
11:29 masterofmonks Hmm air compressor or perhaps a low speed grinder/sharpener.
11:32 masterofmonks While the former allows me to use less expensive tools, the latter would allow me to expand my business of knife sharpening, as it would take a bit less time per blade.
11:40 Druidic_Rifleman Monks
11:40 Druidic_Rifleman I might be buying a 112 lbs anvil
11:41 Sgt_Lemming we might be getting a 300lb one for the hackerspace :-P
11:59 Druidic_Rifleman If i had more people chiping in i'd Love a 300 pounder
11:59 Druidic_Rifleman the ASO IS going to fly though XD
12:00 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder if Anvil shooting is allowed in ontario
12:04 Sgt_Lemming I somehow doubt it's "allowed" anywhere
12:06 killakee world shampionship in anvil shootingXD
12:10 killakee anvil cannon :)
12:12 devast8a Anvil shooting?
12:13 Druidic_Rifleman Take black powder an anvil make anvil fly
12:13 Druidic_Rifleman I know i can own a 3 inch mortar here
12:13 killakee anvil cannon sounds like something in quake 3 XD
12:14 Druidic_Rifleman I think Long range bowling ball cannon shooting should be an olympic sport...
12:14 Druidic_Rifleman that or jeep mounted crossbow shooting
12:14 killakee yeah
12:14 Druidic_Rifleman they whent to shit when they let athleats wair clothes and women compeat
12:14 MadManMarkAu1 Oh God damn it, Captain you fucking troll xD\
12:15 Druidic_Rifleman why is boden a trol
12:15 MadManMarkAu1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyKGXcHBYIc
12:15 Druidic_Rifleman BTW mark my profile on the other site was deleated...
12:15 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 12-1-11 Bolt Depot and Surplus Room - YouTube
12:15 MadManMarkAu1 That's why
12:15 MadManMarkAu1 Ah, ok
12:15 Druidic_Rifleman oooh? yeah the video cuts out at 3 times
12:15 MadManMarkAu1 Yeah, that's deliberate, that's Captain having a laugh
12:15 MadManMarkAu1 :P
12:16 MadManMarkAu1 Using blur filters, video glitch cuts...
12:16 MadManMarkAu1 And the plain blanking of video altogether
12:18 Druidic_Rifleman ah
12:18 Druidic_Rifleman soo you think his camera never broke
12:18 Druidic_Rifleman and he's doing a december fools prank
12:21 MadManMarkAu1 Nope
12:21 MadManMarkAu1 I know his camera broke
12:21 MadManMarkAu1 But I'm fairly sure the camera he's using now is not as bad as he's making it out to be.
12:22 Druidic_Rifleman i see
12:32 Druidic_Rifleman I am bored
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12:42 killakee hi dbsw
12:43 CaptainNiobe Drudic_Rifleman, you aren't the only bored one... lol...
12:44 dbshortwave Hi Killakee
12:47 Druidic_Rifleman I see
12:50 dbshortwave everyone planking in here?
12:50 Druidic_Rifleman I think i am going to go to crapy tire and grab a set of 10 Lb doumb bells and kettle bell
12:50 dbshortwave im surfing webcomics dont mind me ;]
12:54 Druidic_Rifleman I am listening to nitecore songs
12:54 Druidic_Rifleman Nightcore
12:58 Druidic_Rifleman So CaptainNiobe?
12:58 CaptainNiobe wassup, Drudic_Rifleman?
12:59 yNos hey yo
12:59 angy hello yNos
12:59 yNos hows it going?
12:59 CaptainNiobe g'day yNos :)
13:00 Druidic_Rifleman Morning angy ynos
13:00 Druidic_Rifleman Find any thing fun
13:00 yNos yup
13:00 yNos http://www.wzzm13.com/news/article/188333/14/Students-suspended-for-breast-cancer-bracelets-
13:00 BotSteve Title: Students suspended for breast cancer bracelets | wzzm13.com
13:01 CaptainNiobe me? other than minecraft videos on youtube? :P
13:01 Druidic_Rifleman I found a nightcore version oif the Blacklagoon theme song
13:02 yNos nightcore?
13:02 yNos please link:
13:02 CaptainNiobe i also wish i had a boyfriend... one would provide some yummy cuddles right now :P
13:03 yNos Sorry, cant help you there.
13:03 CaptainNiobe i know that, yNos... lol...
13:03 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUZK2P7NazM&amp;feature=related
13:03 BotSteve Title: Nightcore - Red Fraction - YouTube
13:08 yNos what differentiates that from a lords of acid type of industrial/house?
13:08 yNos other than this is a little more bubble-gummy
13:09 Sgt_Lemming eh, KMFDM FTW!
13:09 yNos YES
13:10 Sgt_Lemming .yt drug against war
13:10 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4-bUYU3BH8
13:12 Druidic_Rifleman Not really sure just really started liking it the last few days
13:14 egrsteve|away morning
13:15 yNos hiya steve
13:15 yNos you going to tgg today?
13:15 egrsteve|away morning yNos
13:15 egrsteve|away I should be this evening
13:15 yNos if so, please excuse the cams that are around..
13:15 yNos i got pissed off at the one cable..
13:15 yNos and walked away
13:15 egrsteve|away ?
13:16 egrsteve|away one of the cat5s
13:16 egrsteve|away ?
13:16 yNos i setup 3 cameras around the noc to see how much the load increased whil all of them were recording.
13:16 egrsteve|away ah
13:16 egrsteve|away ok
13:17 yNos the one that is hanging from the cielling needs to be cut into little pieces.
13:17 yNos and burned
13:17 egrsteve|away so there is extra cameras in (around) the noc
13:17 yNos with acid
13:17 yNos yes
13:17 egrsteve|away thumper it?
13:17 yNos the cable?
13:17 egrsteve|away sur
13:17 egrsteve|away e
13:18 egrsteve|away or wait for stomper
13:18 CaptainNiobe hehe... interesting, see if cat5 explodes like aluminium wire does lol
13:18 Druidic_Rifleman "yNos why are there camera bits littered around tumper?"
13:18 egrsteve|away I would be more suprised if it didn't
13:19 Druidic_Rifleman I have a PB gun to Thumper
13:19 yNos it is 170ish pf/ft.. cath to shield, anode to center..
13:19 yNos i wonder how that would work out..
13:20 egrsteve|away idk
13:20 egrsteve|away 1800 volts i wonder the breakdown voltage of the dialectric
13:20 yNos it would look like a long cap.. then again, i am not sure at which point the tialectric breaks down..
13:20 yNos lol
13:20 egrsteve|away or 6kV on stomper
13:20 yNos that would do it.
13:20 yNos for sure.
13:20 CaptainNiobe what's cat5 rated for?
13:20 egrsteve|away that should break it down
13:23 yNos i am wrong.. it is 30 pf/ft
13:23 yNos i think catv is rated for 1amp at 80 volts?
13:23 yNos i dont know offhand
13:23 yNos CaptainNiobe^
13:24 yNos egrsteve|away: we could make a trombone cap..
13:24 yNos those are easy to do!
13:24 CaptainNiobe HAHA! and how much does thumper discharge? :D
13:24 yNos lots of amps at 1800v
13:24 Druidic_Rifleman I can hit Hot pieces of steal into a kife
13:24 Druidic_Rifleman Knife
13:25 yNos ;)
13:25 yNos its fun to make blades, isnt it :D
13:25 yNos i havent made any since i started playing at tgg
13:25 CaptainNiobe that's gotta be done if it's not going to make the cat5 donaters mad... a couple of feet of the stuff as thumper food... i'd love to see it...
13:25 yNos i want to make a little drop point deer skinner.
13:26 egrsteve|away a few foot drop could probably be thumered
13:26 Druidic_Rifleman I am supprised Eiken hasn't set up a blad craft lab
13:26 yNos eakin ;)
13:26 yNos we need to get more stuff squared away, but it is on the plan
13:27 Druidic_Rifleman Yeah I don't know what i would be able to help with if i could get to GR
13:27 Druidic_Rifleman I can soder wires...
13:29 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder if we put a Spool of wire in the middle of the parking lot with a Sign that says "try and steel this for scrap" and they i sat on the roof with a Full auto paint ball gun...
13:29 Druidic_Rifleman if there would be liablity issues
13:30 CaptainNiobe interesting question...
13:30 egrsteve|away I think there would be issues, sadly
13:31 Druidic_Rifleman what if we had someone with really near hand righting
13:31 Druidic_Rifleman write "attempting to steel this wire is a sign of consent to being shot at"
13:32 CaptainNiobe wouldn't that be legally perceived as a threat though, as there's a human element behind any injuries?
13:33 Druidic_Rifleman they could not steal the wire and therefore not get shot at...
13:35 egrsteve|away why put out wire when a copper plated block of steel would be more fun
13:35 egrsteve|away a 1ft cube if copper plated steel
13:35 egrsteve|away lets see them carry that away
13:36 yNos could we plate lead with copper?
13:36 yNos lol
13:36 egrsteve|away maybe
13:36 yNos i think we could work something out..
13:36 angy not directly, but it's doable
13:36 CaptainNiobe yes, but that could also be argued in cases where an intruder injured themselves falling down an unmarked hole on a property he was never supposed to be on in the first place - doesn't hold up...
13:36 CaptainNiobe my parents were renovating under their house on their property, mum complained to me about having to cover the holes left, and i suggested leaving them open since it would be any intruders' fault, and she said no, if that happened, my folks would be charged, not the intruder
13:36 yNos CaptainNiobe: same here
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13:38 CaptainNiobe it's ridiculous that the crims have more rights than the people trying to protect their property, but... :-\
13:38 yNos its sad that this overly litigious has made the potential target afraid to protect itself or its property from others
13:38 Druidic_Rifleman I have a grocery bag ish full of lead
13:38 Druidic_Rifleman Niobe i live in a country where People who rape children have more rights then me
13:38 yNos we have a few tons of lead at my stepdad's shop... they make sinkers...
13:39 egrsteve|away a  cubic foot of steel should weigh just under 500 lbs
13:39 CaptainNiobe eek... that's terrible, Drudic...
13:39 egrsteve|away lead would be about690
13:40 egrsteve|away lead would be about 690 lbs
13:40 angy go with tungsten =)
13:40 yNos only if you melt it for us
13:40 angy but that's way too valuable to do a cubic foot or it
13:40 egrsteve|away 1200 lbs
13:40 Druidic_Rifleman Hmmmm Is any one at TGG a very good welder
13:41 egrsteve|away thats a lot of tig electrodes
13:41 Druidic_Rifleman I like dealing with large volumes of dangerous Molten welding
13:41 yNos yup
13:41 egrsteve|away and ignore the thorium
13:41 angy it's a better idea to go powered to create something that huge
13:41 yNos i wouldnt say great, but there are a few of us there that can stitch metal togather.
13:43 egrsteve|away or the scrap yard, i want a cubic ft of scrap steel, from the crusher is ok
13:44 egrsteve|away just plate the chrushed cube of metal
13:44 yNos after the news, i dont think we will have a problem with scrappers...
13:45 yNos not for a while anyway
13:45 egrsteve|away no, probably not
13:45 egrsteve|away they know we are watching
13:45 egrsteve|away ... and waiting
13:45 CaptainNiobe speaking of the scrappers, have they been caught yet?
13:46 egrsteve|away not that I am aware of, but it honestly doesn't matter to much, as everyone knows were watching
13:47 CaptainNiobe be nice to see them get penalised for it though...
13:47 yNos http://textsfrombennett.tumblr.com/
13:47 BotSteve Title: Texts From Bennett
13:47 egrsteve|away I think Chris wanted to see comunity service from them (detaging the building)
13:48 Druidic_Rifleman Lol
13:48 CaptainNiobe replacing the copper the stole would be something too...
13:48 egrsteve|away wouldn't happen
13:48 Druidic_Rifleman 5 bucks worth of copper and how much dammage
13:49 Druidic_Rifleman Good thing you don't need Airconditioning
13:49 egrsteve|away ya
13:49 egrsteve|away ac is overrated
13:49 egrsteve|away ttyl
13:50 CaptainNiobe i thought part of the problem was the cost of the copper? or am i mistaken there?
13:50 Druidic_Rifleman the damage the did to get the copper is worth more then it's value
13:54 Druidic_Rifleman the Meth head kids might of gotton 20 bucks worth of copper
13:54 Druidic_Rifleman But they did a few 1000 dollars worth of damage
13:54 Druidic_Rifleman Shame those transformers we're not on
13:55 CaptainNiobe i remember seeing someone mention a sorta trap... warned, of course...
13:57 Druidic_Rifleman well if you open a box of a multi ton transformer and fry your self dead...
13:57 Druidic_Rifleman It's not the labs fault
13:57 Druidic_Rifleman I like the roof Sniper idea
13:58 CaptainNiobe if the transformers were lathally dangerous, they wouldn'tr be allowed outside without protection...
13:58 Druidic_Rifleman could see some Methhead scrapper
13:59 Druidic_Rifleman 's mom crying at crys and chris being "why was your kid inside a locked highvoltage transformer??? "
13:59 Druidic_Rifleman is it bad if i see a transformer and think???? ooooooooh i wonder how powerfull that one iss
14:00 CaptainNiobe no, but i don't think a potentially lethal one would be outin the open when operating, it would be in an enclosure...
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14:27 BatSteve howdy
14:29 CaptainNiobe hey BatSteve :)
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14:32 yNos back :D
14:32 BatSteve hi CaptainNiobe!
14:32 BatSteve how goes?
14:32 yNos i cant go down to the cafe w/o having someone stop me to tos ideas around
14:32 yNos bah
14:32 Druidic_Rifleman morning
14:32 BatSteve howdy druid
14:33 CaptainNiobe not bad, BatSteve, just way overtired after 37 hours awake and i may need to take a wander up to hsbne, too lol
14:33 LemPhone we has a laser :-P
14:33 LemPhone out dumpster diving atm and there is a BIG laser tube here
14:33 BatSteve A lazor?  Are you chargin' it?
14:37 yNos like a yuppy mom at the mall..
14:38 dbshortwave nintendo DS
14:39 dbshortwave they sell just the chargers right ?
14:39 dbshortwave or can you use an adapter to charge it via USB and PC?
14:41 Druidic_Rifleman Bat steve do you think there will ever be a Bd-10 like jet on the market again
14:44 tonsofpcs define 'on the market'
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14:50 yNos lolgerbils
14:52 yNos just tried to explain to someone what tgg was...
14:52 yNos just need to get them down there.
14:53 tonsofpcs if they were a nerd/geek, they'd understand
14:55 yNos its so, because i work at total bureaucracy.. we have a group called the Innovation Management Office.
14:56 yNos itso funny
14:56 yNos they are uh
14:57 yNos innovative for a company like this is something like.. switching to sandpaper tp instead of newspaper tp
15:06 azop yNos: what kind of video card does the DVR server have?
15:07 azop the client can make use of OpenGL if the video card supports it
15:07 azop and the driver is installed for that card (NVIDIA / ATI / * )
15:07 yNos erm.. not sure offhand
15:08 tonsofpcs do they still make actual video cards that don't support GL?
15:08 azop you'd be surprised
15:09 azop yNos: running glxgears should give you an idea if OpenGL is working or not
15:10 tonsofpcs azop: really?
15:10 * tonsofpcs has some real GLINT chips on a card over << :D
15:12 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnqUyz3R4sA&amp;feature=share where will i find giant Clay pidgens and a thrower big enough....
15:12 BotSteve Title: How real men shoot skeet - YouTube
15:12 Druidic_Rifleman is it sad that finding the tank is the easy part....
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15:15 yNos azop: how many cores/how much ram is recommended for 16 concurrent recording streams?
15:15 azop yNos: another option is to run the server headless and run the client on another box
15:16 yNos that is what i'd prefer.
15:16 azop yNos: and, if you don't have the client running, 16 cameras would only need 1-2GB of ram, and a single core processor
15:16 yNos cool
15:16 azop we tested 54 cameras @ 704x480 (2,5,15FPS) and it used 10% on a dual core processor
15:16 yNos how about the video out port?
15:17 azop that will take a bit more trickery.
15:17 yNos ah
15:17 azop we really need to get that added into the web interface
15:17 yNos i was playing around trying to magic that into working..
15:17 yNos how to control that?
15:18 yNos what is the proper name for it?
15:18 azop a cheap hack is to run mplayer on /dev/video0: mplayer tv://0/4
15:18 azop yNos: it's the display port, which is connected to /dev/video0
15:18 azop /dev/video1 -> /dev/video16 are the MJPEG and H.264 encoders (depending on how you talk to them)
15:18 azop video0 is the raw YUV display port
15:18 azop http://support.bluecherrydvr.com/entries/235174-using-the-bluecherry-hardware-compression-open-source-linux-drivers-mpeg-4-h-264
15:18 BotSteve Title: Using the Bluecherry hardware compression open source Linux drivers (MPEG-4 / H.264) : Bluecherry
15:18 azop that talks a bit more about it
15:19 yNos ahh, so we cant have it roll through the enabled ports?
15:19 azop eventually we can do that
15:20 azop it would take a bit of work, since we would have to send the ioctl's every X amount of seconds
15:20 yNos how long have you been working on this project?
15:20 azop over a year
15:21 azop it's been a lot more work then what you would expect :\
15:21 yNos i can imagine
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15:22 yNos there is a reason there arent many video input card companies.
15:22 yNos its a pita
15:22 azop writing the driver has been the biggest pain
15:22 azop there's alot of undocumented "yeah...about that" in the chipset
15:23 azop which has been a pain to work around
15:23 yNos first foray into hardware?
15:24 azop this deep, yeah
15:25 yNos any colleges in the area that teach a vhdl class?
15:26 azop I'm not sure
15:28 yNos i wonder what the cost would be to have an fpga based board rather than a dedicated buggy codec chip?
15:29 yNos you would get a lot more flexability..
15:30 yNos but possibly higher material cost/higher dev costs. that is why i asked if there was a college in your area with an ee program.. mainly a vhdl class..
15:32 yNos if the gotchas are that bad..
15:35 azop we've worked around most of them
15:35 azop most of them are dma issues
15:36 yNos ah
15:36 azop we've invested way too much money to be jumping ship
15:36 azop and, these do pretty much what we need anyway
15:36 yNos i can understand that.. was just kicking around ideas
15:36 azop the FPS is lower then we'd like, but such is life
15:37 yNos so what is the story around your nick?
15:38 azop my first IRC nick was 'Floor' about 15 years ago
15:38 azop azop just happened one day.
15:39 azop or are you talking about the company name?
15:43 yNos well, that too ;)
15:43 yNos was trying to figure out of it was an acronym or something.
15:44 azop nope
15:47 yNos and bluecherry?
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15:54 azop yNos: nothing special behind that name...we used to be a family owned ISP in 1999-2001 before it was sold to Earthlink
15:54 azop my dad came up with the name when he was getting his MBA
15:56 yNos ahh
15:56 yNos just dialup?
15:56 yNos or dialup/dsl/t1?
15:57 * yNos was an ISP admin from 98-2005
15:58 yNos 98-2001 i was still in highschool though.. then the place i worked for was bought out by WMIS.net, then WMIS.net was bought by 123.net..
15:58 yNos the isp foodchain lives in michigan..
16:00 Druidic_Rifleman hey lemming
16:02 dbshortwave .twf 13346
16:02 dbshortwave did it again
16:02 dbshortwave .tfw 13346
16:02 BotSteve 34°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Hamilton, NY!  'Shrinkage's best friend.'
16:09 yNos .tfw 49345
16:09 BotSteve 34°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Sparta, MI!  'Why do I live here?'
16:12 Experimentonomen .tfw 87150
16:12 BotSteve IndexError: list index out of range (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/tfw.py", line 32, in tfw)
16:17 Druidic_Rifleman yNos is rick going buy the lab for filming again soon?
16:21 yNos not sure.
16:28 Druidic_Rifleman i need a cad program for designing parts
16:28 Druidic_Rifleman and i don't likesketch up
16:30 azop yNos: we had ~650 dial customers and started to roll out DSL
16:30 azop two POPs
16:30 azop 5 T1 24 channels, cisco 364x for modem access
16:30 azop 3 T-1's for data
16:31 azop frame relay between the POPs
16:46 dbshortwave if i ban/kick... and i want the person not to come back its the domian one i want to select
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17:08 Cprossu hrmmmmmm
17:19 dbshortwave hmm
17:19 dbshortwave im an admin in another network andi forgetted
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17:26 MoxieMike am I the only one getting black screens during the captain's blog?
17:28 MoxieMike namely during opening the bolt depot banners and sorting through kidwell's donations
17:28 SparkyProjects If you check the comments, it confirms that a lot of people were getting it
17:28 SparkyProjects Must be the camera
17:28 MoxieMike i figured
17:28 MoxieMike but just making sure it wasn't just me
17:29 MoxieMike it's the camera...it just faded to black
17:31 * dbshortwave snerks
17:34 * Experimentonomen smirks
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17:38 Druidic_Rifleman http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/11/28/why_is_homeland_security_funding_research_for_a_big_cat
17:38 BotSteve Title: Why is Homeland Security Funding Research for a Big Cat? - Katie Pavlich
17:38 Druidic_Rifleman this asstounds me...
17:38 Druidic_Rifleman Astounds*
17:38 Druidic_Rifleman ....
17:43 dbshortwave thank, god, for knuckle bandages
17:51 astro73|alice waiting is boring.
17:52 astro73|alice .tfw 49301
17:52 BotSteve 37°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Ada, MI!  'Blue balls x 2'
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17:56 yNos mmmm
17:56 yNos good foods :D
17:56 dbshortwave mmm fud
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18:03 killakee greetings :)
18:04 killakee whats up yall ?
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18:15 yNos not a whole
18:15 yNos git it on
18:15 yNos bang a gong
18:15 yNos git it on
18:19 * dbshortwave smacks a gong with his large mallet
18:20 killakee so nothing ?
18:20 Monkeh Man, Android phones are verbose.
18:20 MoxieMike__ i actually have a gong
18:20 * yNos used to have one..
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18:21 yNos became a puddle when my studio burned.
18:21 MoxieMike__ so, i hit the gong...now what?
18:21 yNos was listenfing to KMFDM's get it on
18:21 Monkeh yNos: That sucks.
18:21 yNos and they never say the bang a gong part.
18:23 yNos i lost my crappy mixer (no big loss there) my blue and white mac.. a 3/4 upright, tuba, valve trombone, trumpet, coronet, flugel horn, multiple guitars/ cheap electric bass'
18:23 yNos lost a lot of time in that fire..
18:23 yNos the instruments were all aquired from different sources.. all needing a little work..
18:23 yNos hmm
18:23 yNos someone brought cake..
18:24 yNos time to investigate.
18:24 MoxieMike__ hmm...yes
18:24 yNos MoxieMike__: you has a tails
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18:27 * MoxieMike_ is confused about why his wireless keeps dropping off
18:28 Monkeh MoxieMike_: Because it's wireless and wireless sucks.
18:29 killakee <Monkeh> not always.. my connection stays on even if i use my teslacoil.
18:29 MoxieMike_ i'm a foot away from the router
18:29 killakee me to
18:29 killakee with the coil
18:29 killakee :P
18:29 yNos and what is the s:n like in your area?
18:30 yNos it was pretty good around us.. then it went to shit for some reason
18:30 yNos rssi's went into the pooper
18:30 yNos so.. upgraded antennas
18:30 yNos more coverage around the house
18:32 Monkeh MoxieMike_: That's not always a good thing.
18:32 Monkeh killakee: And does your coil operate at 2.4GHz? ;)
18:33 MoxieMike_ it's just where my laptop is on the desk and where the router is on the desk
18:34 killakee <Monkeh> i dont have osiloscope so dont know
18:34 killakee :P
18:34 Monkeh killakee: Well I think I can firmly state it does not if your 2.4GHz wireless continues to operate while it's running. ;)
18:35 yNos where does it oscillate?
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18:55 Cprossu ^ dead chat detected.
18:55 dbshortwave "That's it! I'm gonna deliver a gift of my boot up Santa's chimney!"
18:55 dbshortwave -Fry
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19:04 yNos Cprossu: you cant know if the cat is dead or not.
19:14 Sgt_Lemming so yeah
19:14 Sgt_Lemming we pulled a laser out of a dumpster
19:15 Sgt_Lemming non-working, but still kinda funky
19:15 Sgt_Lemming BIG one too
19:15 Sgt_Lemming about 4 feet long and weighs about 40Kg
19:15 dbshortwave omg
19:16 dbshortwave what dumpsters are you diving in lol
19:16 dbshortwave cause i want to dig too lol
19:16 Sgt_Lemming one's near a hospital :-P
19:16 yNos noshit
19:16 yNos they have lasers like that at hospitals?
19:16 Sgt_Lemming apparently so
19:16 Sgt_Lemming will take a photo when I am next there
19:16 dbshortwave damn
19:17 Sgt_Lemming also https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCOiV9qbX6JrnnQE&amp;gsessionid=LzPCcxkTDyoQ4jHnh1PMZQ#5681612197610220082
19:17 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming Dixon - Drop Box
19:18 Sgt_Lemming no freaking idea what it does, but damn that's a lot of dials/switches/knobs
19:18 Sgt_Lemming everywhere it has a "0" is a settable digit
19:19 Sgt_Lemming all BCD switches as far as I cna tell
19:19 dbshortwave holy crap
19:28 killakee ennyone know when the cameras is up and running on the live stream ?
19:29 Av_Nekoroms cameras?
19:30 Av_Nekoroms the last batch was on live stream earlier
19:30 killakee security cams and all that :)
19:30 killakee yes but not ennymore ..
19:30 killakee :)
19:30 Sgt_Lemming oh, amusing one
19:31 Sgt_Lemming we saw a drunk total his car on the way home
19:31 Sgt_Lemming after trying to run from the cops
19:31 Av_Nekoroms maybe they are installing that new security dvr
19:31 Av_Nekoroms computer version :)
19:31 Sgt_Lemming he pulled up rather suddenly at a set of lights where a police car was turning, police car flagged him over
19:33 Sgt_Lemming he took off, we got up round the corner and he'd slid out into the barrier on the outside of the corner, bounced off and hit the barrier on the inside and came to a stop
19:34 yNos someone totaled their car?
19:34 Sgt_Lemming got out of the car towards the police and was visibly stumbling
19:35 yNos where was this?
19:35 Sgt_Lemming here in brisbane
19:35 yNos ah
19:36 yNos Sgt_Lemming: is that console from one of the pulse radiation therapy machines?
19:36 Sgt_Lemming not sure
19:36 Sgt_Lemming it says 'Bloom Electrophysiology" on it
19:36 yNos got a better picture of the top right text?
19:36 Sgt_Lemming sorry but no
19:37 yNos http://www.fischermti.com/bloom.html
19:37 BotSteve Title: Fischer Medical Technologies, Inc.
19:37 yNos its for TEM
19:37 Sgt_Lemming lol
19:37 Sgt_Lemming thanks
19:38 yNos tem and heart studies..
19:39 yNos who is this!? https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCOiV9qbX6JrnnQE&amp;gsessionid=LzPCcxkTDyoQ4jHnh1PMZQ#5481900526868311682
19:39 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming Dixon - Drop Box
19:39 Sgt_Lemming my ex yNos
19:39 yNos ah
19:40 yNos copper headlights look sick
19:40 Sgt_Lemming cool, thanks
19:42 yNos what did you do to finish them?
19:42 Sgt_Lemming I haven't, I borked the brackets and don't have access to the right tools to finish them
19:43 Sgt_Lemming namely a small mill
19:43 Sgt_Lemming we have a large mill, but I need a little one for fine details
19:48 Sgt_Lemming http://g.co/maps/tckb3 <---- that is where the guy crashed his car
19:48 BotSteve Title: Google Maps
19:53 yNos grr
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19:54 yNos i hate it when people walk up 10 minutes before i leave on a friday and say something like.. "I havent been able to login in over a week"
19:54 yNos what error dor you get
19:54 yNos "o,iono, its been a week since i tried"
19:54 Sgt_Lemming rofl
19:54 yNos RAGE
19:54 Sgt_Lemming that's always a good one isn't it
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19:56 yNos oh
19:57 yNos it is someone we setup ssh keys for.
19:57 yNos because they couldnt type their password.
19:57 Sgt_Lemming yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4-bUYU3BH8 <--- that should make you feel a bit better
19:57 BotSteve Title: KMFDM - A Drug Against War - YouTube
19:57 yNos always does
19:57 yNos this has been today's playlist
19:57 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehAKoc5-7ws&amp;feature=autoplay&amp;list=PLE62FB65D375A44E0&amp;lf=results_main&amp;playnext=5
19:57 BotSteve Title: KMFDM - Free Your Hate - YouTube
19:58 producerBill found a rs422 to rs232 converter today
19:58 yNos yeah?
19:58 yNos where?
19:58 SparkyProjects We've had similar with building services (air, heating,  etc), always last thing Friday, and they need it for the weekend, yet have known about the problem for nearly a week, sometimes longer.
19:58 SparkyProjects Our answer, "you knew about it for a week, you obviously don't think it's important, and neither do we"
19:58 producerBill in my desk at work
19:58 yNos lol
19:58 producerBill it has no enclouser
19:59 producerBill :(
19:59 yNos it can be mounted in a cardslot ;)
19:59 producerBill but I am looking for a better converter
19:59 producerBill sure could be
19:59 producerBill or project box
20:00 producerBill ynos you going to be at the lab tonight or weekend?
20:00 yNos not likely
20:00 yNos the machine is racked up there though
20:00 yNos i left my account logged in
20:00 producerBill ok
20:00 producerBill I plan to play with the pelco cameras today and check them out
20:01 yNos cool
20:01 yNos dont use the cable that is dropping from the ceiling.
20:01 yNos i left it there in anger last night.
20:01 yNos that and the gf complaining that we need to peave.
20:01 yNos **leave
20:01 producerBill no I will be working at the table until
20:01 yNos ohwell
20:01 yNos Ok
20:02 producerBill take care
20:02 yNos you too
20:02 yNos am getting ready to leave myself
20:02 yNos 44th/eastern up to sprta
20:02 tonsofpcs producerBill: it's just a ffew transistors.........
20:03 tonsofpcs I have some at work w/ optional external PSU
20:03 tonsofpcs also, all the HP workstations we have, the included serial port can be switched between 232 and 485/422
20:04 yNos hmm.. i wonder if that is the case with this machine.
20:04 yNos allrite, i need to get goin.
20:04 tonsofpcs got a model?
20:04 yNos nop
20:04 yNos g'night all
20:04 yNos have a good weekend
20:05 producerBill i know you can get cards and stuff,,, well this is free.
20:05 producerBill and it will work for testing
20:05 tonsofpcs the ones I have at work are from B&B, in this form factor, but this isn't it: http://www.bb-elec.com/images/product_images/232LPTTL33_black_large.jpg
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20:06 tonsofpcs whatcha hooking up / testing?
20:06 producerBill ya.. This is a card the size of a pci card
20:06 producerBill the pelco ptz camera com lines are rs422
20:06 tonsofpcs (I mean, same connectors, there's a coaxial power connector on the side also)
20:07 tonsofpcs are those the VISCA protocol cameras?
20:07 producerBill not sure what that is
20:07 producerBill soo,,,,, no
20:07 producerBill maybe
20:07 tonsofpcs the ones that chris showed in the captains blog a few weeks ago?
20:07 producerBill i know it works on the p-code and d-code protocol
20:08 tonsofpcs oh, apparently that's Pelco's own protocol
20:09 tonsofpcs the Sonys and some others (JVC? Philips?) use "VISCA", there's a lot of docs for those.  I haven't researched pelco's
20:16 producerBill i don't know. I have some palco example code as well as code for the boush camera
20:19 tonsofpcs I don't know if we have 'example code' for the VISCA, but we have the protocol documents and some of us (not just me for a change!) actually have gear we use that talks that language.
20:20 tonsofpcs (and because the commercial controllers generally have both 232 and 422 output, with the same data format on each, we can easily sniff the controller output)
20:28 producerBill I think it would be great to build a TGG online PDF manual libary
20:28 producerBill because that is the things that need to be put in an archive for later
20:30 producerBill does anyone know about the TGG webserver
20:32 ajprog_laptop yNos: in?
20:32 producerBill no he had to leave
20:32 ajprog_laptop producerBill: what about it?
20:32 ajprog_laptop do you know if he is coming by the lab?
20:33 producerBill he said no
20:33 ajprog_laptop what do you want to know about the webserver?
20:34 producerBill i am interested in knowing if we can install a piece of software to send images then deistrobute it to connected clients
20:35 producerBill install on the server
20:35 producerBill i am trying to find a way to allow TGG members to watch the cameras without killing the lab bandwidth
20:36 tonsofpcs producerBill: ftp jpegs?
20:37 tonsofpcs (with MJPEG headers to force auto-refresh)?
20:37 producerBill i ran a test of that idea and it took over 2 sec to upload
20:37 tonsofpcs alternatively, make a screen on an internal machine that shows all cameras, then stream a low-res version of that via justin?
20:38 producerBill Maybe there is a different way to connect that would make it faster but right now I do not know.
20:38 tonsofpcs you could use a skype conference, I suppose... that's distributed
20:38 tonsofpcs maybe there's something similar that works better in a client-server model?
20:39 producerBill that is an idea. The real problem is Justin TV is delayed 5-7 sec.... when moving a ptz camera that might as well be a week,
20:39 producerBill .
20:39 tonsofpcs I mean, you'll always have encoding and transport delays,there's ways to optimize for minimum latency, but also ways to optimize for maximum quality
20:39 dbshortwave someone brought me a DS lite to work on
20:39 producerBill well I guess I need to run a test of server-client
20:39 tonsofpcs maybe send a MPEG4AVC stream of the camera being controlled (you can switch the input feed witth one of the small video switchers) to just the person in control?
20:39 producerBill see what the delay is
20:39 dbshortwave i needs ... a starter pack
20:40 tonsofpcs or, if you don't care about bandwidth as much, run a lower delay codec.
20:40 tonsofpcs perhaps MPEG2 Main profile at a low res and large size?
20:40 tonsofpcs (data  size, that is)
20:40 producerBill I don't know
20:40 producerBill there is some development to do
20:40 tonsofpcs if you want to discuss the codec end of it, I can walk you through a bunch of different options and the benefits/detremnts, right now I need to run to set up audio for a concert
20:41 tonsofpcs allternatively, you abstract the interface so that the delay isn't an issue
20:41 tonsofpcs see the webcam control interface at oswego.edu for an example (it has two operating modes, direct control and 'click and select on a "map"')
20:43 * Cprossu ducks head in here for a moment and leaves
20:49 producerBill ya I don't understand codec's enough to make good choices, so it would be good to chat with you about it.
20:49 producerBill Maybe later after I start working on the video capture stuff.
20:50 producerBill beleive me I will build a test to kick the tires.
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20:56 Cprossu lol stupid modem.
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21:03 dbshortwave .tfw 13346
21:03 BotSteve 36°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND SNOWING IN Hamilton, NY!  'Warmer than Hoth.'
21:03 producerBill tfw
21:04 producerBill .tfw
21:04 BotSteve 39°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Your source of crude weather!'
21:04 producerBill that is cool
21:04 sbp BotSteve: take it to :NSFW
21:05 dbshortwave rofl
21:05 sbp some people here might enjoy this:
21:05 sbp http://bartbonte.com/portal/impasse.html
21:05 BotSteve Title: Impasse
21:05 sbp I'm not normally into games, but this is quite fun
21:05 sbp (via a friend)
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21:18 Seroster^Away Youtube updates
21:19 Seroster^Away FUCKING BS
21:20 dbshortwave .pie
21:20 BotSteve Here you go, dbshortwave, I made you a rhubarb pie!
21:20 dbshortwave mmmm
21:20 dbshortwave thank you BotSteve
21:20 BotSteve No problem, dbshortwave
21:21 producerBill someones playing with the bot
21:22 dbshortwave someone is ?
21:22 producerBill lol
21:22 producerBill ok you are
21:24 dbshortwave was someone working on the bot when i did that?
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21:24 producerBill not that i know of
21:24 dbshortwave ok
21:25 dbshortwave ^.^
21:25 producerBill i just ment you where playing with it
21:25 producerBill lol
21:26 dbshortwave dmanit spun aluminum feel >.<
21:26 producerBill that sucks
21:26 dbshortwave its like nails on a chalk board
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21:27 producerBill that really sucks
21:28 dbshortwave meh its ok
21:29 dbshortwave ill get something and paint it if i had a nice enamal paint set i would fix it lol
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21:33 Seroster dbshortwave, It's aluminium.
21:36 Seroster NEW mythbusters episode out on the net.
21:43 dbshortwave nice
21:44 Electricguy bedtime.. night night
21:47 astro73|alice i can haz jsun?
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22:00 Toastdude Hi
22:00 BotSteve Toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
22:00 BotSteve At 03:09Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell Toastdude that i miss him :(
22:01 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
22:01 BotSteve You're welcome, Toastdude
22:01 Toastdude wannabe1988: Hi
22:04 Seroster WOOT!
22:04 Seroster SparkyUonline got a video camera!
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22:10 isasha .seen photoinduction
22:10 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen photoinduction around.
22:10 Cprossu I don't think he frequents our irc isasha
22:11 isasha .seen Photonicinduction
22:11 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen photonicinduction around.
22:11 isasha Oh well. Just saw his back up power system on Hack a day, pretty cool!
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22:45 Seroster Nobody wants to talk to me... //cutcutcut
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23:12 Seroster FUCK YEAH!
23:12 Seroster Was on my old garbage picking route, first getting rid of my trash, then taking a stroll past the electronics dumpster
23:12 Seroster And it was all like "Boring, boring, boring, nothing, boring, boring...:"
23:12 Seroster Then I saw this garbage bag next to the dumpster, with a wire sticking out
23:13 Seroster Poked around for a second and found industrial goodies
23:13 Seroster One big cubic foot box of electronics (with MASSIVE relays) - a few loose relays, couple of contactors, 24v transformer... <3
23:16 Toastdude lol
23:17 Seroster You bet your ass I'm not above dumpster diving, and neither is chris
23:18 Seroster Destroying a piece of working equipment worth millions of dollars for a few bucks of copper is retarded.
23:18 Seroster NOT grabbing a five hundred dollar relay that is headed for a furnace... That's almost as retarded.
23:18 Seroster Seriously, I looked up such a relay, it's five hundred bucks brand new, and I got FIVE OF THEM.
23:20 masterofmonks Well look this up 2N321
23:21 Seroster .g 2n321
23:21 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.datasheetarchive.com/2N321-datasheet.html
23:22 masterofmonks http://shop.vetcosurplus.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1640
23:22 BotSteve Title: NTE102 - T-PNP,GE-AF PREAMP,DR,PO - VETCO.NET
23:22 masterofmonks I have.. A lot of these.
23:23 Seroster Tiny cute transistor?
23:24 masterofmonks Apparently.
23:24 Seroster Define a lot, 50, 100, 1000?
23:25 Seroster 24v, <0.05ma
23:25 Seroster a*
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23:25 wannabe1987 ...
23:25 wannabe1987 ...
23:25 Seroster What is its use, mom?
23:26 Seroster wannabe198, Grats! That's morse for "O O" Like nippleless titties. Great job.
23:26 wannabe1987 lol thx
23:28 masterofmonks 98
23:29 masterofmonks And I am not relly sure what they are used for, thought that page I linked mentioned preamp...
23:29 wannabe1987 i'll be back :P
23:29 wannabe1987 gotta go pick up my car and then head back to my bedroom :P
23:29 Seroster Righto.
23:29 wannabe1987 i'm exhausted
23:29 Seroster So... Why?
23:29 Seroster So is the car?
23:29 Seroster https://www.elfa.se/elfa3~eu_en/elfa/init.do?item=54-226-98&amp;toc=19909  TWO AND A HALF GRANDD?!
23:29 Seroster PUNDS
23:29 BotSteve Title: Electric carriage unit | ELFA
23:30 Seroster 60cm stroke 10kg capability
23:30 Seroster WTF
23:30 Seroster I can buy a second hand wheelloader for 2.5k pounds
23:34 Seroster I found pull out drawers too
23:34 Seroster Two thousand pounds
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23:34 Seroster '-'
23:34 Seroster I got my own storage, I paid about a tenner for it
23:35 injektion Can you compile rdesktop on AIX?
23:38 eadthem was it just me or is there a chunk of captans blog thats all black
23:38 Seroster Bad camera
23:38 eadthem thats realy bad
23:39 eadthem well the audio is great
23:39 injektion I'd like to make an administration station but that all depends if I can compile something on AIX that supports RDP
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23:56 dbshortwave who here has messed with the LPT and controlling lights with the LPT?
23:57 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
23:57 wannabe1987 there
23:57 dbshortwave >.>
23:57 dbshortwave where
23:57 wannabe1987 YOU!
23:57 dbshortwave YOU
23:57 dbshortwave !
23:57 wannabe1987 in your <insert thing here>
23:57 dbshortwave HEH
23:57 * dbshortwave flushes dirty mind
23:58 wannabe1987 lol
23:58 wannabe1987 so i took the car in today
23:58 dbshortwave k
23:58 dbshortwave what they find ?
23:58 wannabe1987 neesds serpentine belt, blower motor resistor and the struts
23:58 dbshortwave not tooo bad
23:59 wannabe1987 no, but still bad enough.....
23:59 wannabe1987 apparently my serpentine belt ins fraying :(
23:59 dbshortwave yeah the struts are going to kill you
23:59 dbshortwave well
23:59 dbshortwave labor
23:59 dbshortwave but the strusts need to be done by someone that knows how to align

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