Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-03

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00:00 wannabe1987 actually, the parts cost at dykstras is better than i've found at az, aa, or autoclinic
00:00 * dbshortwave nods
00:01 dbshortwave brb
00:02 dbshortwave soooooooo
00:02 dbshortwave yeah brb
00:05 * wannabe1987 needs her own masseuse. any offers?
00:06 masterofmonks wannabe1987: that is a dangerous job offer in these parts.
00:06 wannabe1987 lol
00:07 wannabe1987 neck/back and feet, really
00:08 Seroster wannabe198, you might need some fresh headlight fluid aswell :/
00:08 masterofmonks Otherwise known as seduction.
00:08 injektion Blinker fluid
00:08 Seroster Oh yes, you wouldnt want to run out of blinker fluid on the highway!
00:09 masterofmonks Seroster: seriously, go fly a kite in a thunderstorm while holding a grounded rod.
00:09 Seroster Sounds like fun
00:10 astro73|alice wannabe1987: sorry, i think my girl might object. she can be a little jelous sometimes.
00:11 wannabe1987 awwww but i'm in hudsonville now :P  you can bring her along too
00:11 masterofmonks wannabe1987: I didn't know you were into that kind of thing.
00:11 wannabe1987 ...
00:13 masterofmonks http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html
00:13 astro73|alice she's also very busy with final projects
00:13 BotSteve Title: Low-tech Magazine: Wood gas vehicles: firewood in the fuel tank
00:13 wannabe1987 yeah....finals
00:13 wannabe1987 my sister is playing (in 45 min) the messiah tonight and tomorrow night...3 hours straight on the cello, and she's lead cellist for most of it
00:14 astro73|alice meep!
00:15 astro73|alice that's a lot of bowing
00:15 wannabe1987 yes
00:15 Seroster I hear that masterofmonks ran out of headlight fluid while driving around a forest (probably to get rid of a corpse) during nighttime once, that is why he is such a hateful man nowdays.
00:15 masterofmonks That is like a ione girl Apocalyptica concert.
00:15 masterofmonks one*
00:16 dbshortwave hmm
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00:21 * lwq1996 is gonna talk in l33t for now on :P just piss off kelly
00:21 wannabe1987 ?
00:21 masterofmonks lwq1996: I will maim you horribly if you do.
00:21 masterofmonks Also you will get a +q
00:21 wannabe1987 lol
00:22 wannabe1987 why would leet piss mee off?
00:22 lwq1996 wat u tlkin bout?
00:22 * lwq1996 kicks himself
00:23 * masterofmonks sets mode #thegeekgroup +q lwq1996
00:23 wannabe1987 'm so confuse
00:23 wannabe1987 d
00:23 lwq1996 DO IT BITCH!!!
00:23 * lwq1996 has energy today
00:23 wannabe1987 me doesn't
00:23 * lwq1996 had a 3hour nap
00:24 masterofmonks lwq1996: Going hunting this weekend?
00:24 wannabe1987 i volunteered and was on my feet on a gym floor for 10 hours...7:15a-5:15p
00:24 lwq1996 yes :)
00:24 dbshortwave rofl
00:25 lwq1996 wannabe welcome to life i live, though may not be gym
00:25 wannabe1987 o and i talked so much and so loud i lost most of my voice
00:25 dbshortwave x.x
00:25 masterofmonks Pfft, I stand on my feet all day long and move tanks larger than cars by hand.
00:26 lwq1996 yup
00:27 dbshortwave oh cripes
00:27 lwq1996 my dad used to work loging and had to get up and off a machine chock/unchock trees and cut them down, and he used to be fit, now he sits in a loader all day and is fat :(
00:32 dbshortwave hmmm
00:33 dbshortwave the LPT1 can almost be used as a binary switch
00:35 masterofmonks http://hackaday.com/2011/12/02/printable-solar-cells-that-can-be-folded-up-when-not-in-use/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+hackaday%2FLgoM+%28Hack+a+Day%29
00:35 BotSteve Title: Printable solar cells that can be folded up when not in use - Hack a Day
00:39 * wannabe1987 thinks she might nap in a bit...........
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00:52 masterofmonks Does anyone know of a source of cargo pants (preferably denim) without those damnable slash style pockets?
00:55 wannabe1987 if my house people have the tv too loud, does that mean i'm too old?
00:55 masterofmonks Means you need insulation.
00:56 wannabe1987 or i'm too tired.  if i were more tired i'd complain and be crabby.  in stead i'll put headphones in :D
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00:58 * wannabe1987 listens to symphony no 3 by saint saens
01:04 wannabe1987 my eyes are crossing, i'll be up later....
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01:10 egrsteve|away hmm
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01:18 Toastdude Hi
01:18 Druidic_Rifleman Can i ask a favour of the artsy fartsy geeks?
01:18 Toastdude lol
01:18 Toastdude .seen wannabe1987
01:18 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe1987 0.24 hours ago at 2011-12-03 01:04:32 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:18:56 UTC
01:19 Toastdude .seen wannabe1988
01:19 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe1988 119.28 hours ago at 2011-11-28 02:01:55 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:19:01 UTC
01:19 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
01:19 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
01:22 Druidic_Rifleman I need a Photo water mark to put on my photos
01:22 Druidic_Rifleman Any one anle to do one?
01:23 Seroster masterofmonks, slash type pockets?
01:23 masterofmonks The kind found in slacks.
01:24 Seroster .g slash type pockets
01:24 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.amazon.com/Smead-Pocket-Folders-Jacket-75425/dp/B00006ICNI
01:24 Druidic_Rifleman whats up monks
01:24 Seroster Get me a damn picture or explain mate.
01:25 masterofmonks .g slacks
01:25 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slacks
01:25 masterofmonks .g jeans
01:25 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://us.levi.com/home/index.jsp
01:25 Seroster Get me a damn picture or explain mate.
01:26 Seroster What feature is it that you dislike?
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01:26 Seroster You mean those? http://teamsales.ca/images/Pro%20Slash%20Pocket.jpg
01:26 masterofmonks http://www.neramit-custom-tailoring.com/images/trousers2.jpg
01:26 masterofmonks The pocket here is the kind I don't want.
01:27 Seroster ...Are there other kinds for high side pockets?
01:27 Toastdude Yay, craptacular cameras! :P
01:28 masterofmonks http://www.countryconsultant.com/blogspot/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/denim-pocket.jpg
01:28 Seroster You like them better?
01:28 masterofmonks Yes.
01:28 masterofmonks Far.
01:28 Seroster Oh man, you aint getting no presents this year.
01:28 masterofmonks More conducive to hard labor.
01:29 tehdark45 for free CAD you can get autodesks suite for free with eduaction license
01:30 Seroster Why would anyone ever not choose the pocket where you can store a minifridge, a jug of milk and a small country instead of a pocket where you struggle to fit a penny?
01:30 masterofmonks I do not struggle to get my hands in my pockets.
01:30 Seroster I don't know what you do with your pockets, but I keep stuff in mine.
01:30 masterofmonks I buy pants that actually fucking fit.
01:30 Seroster Maybe you got girly hands.
01:30 nazca_ anyone at the lab around?
01:30 masterofmonks ER no.
01:31 masterofmonks Considerign it is hard to find gloves that fit...
01:31 tehdark45 just CNC some pants
01:31 tehdark45 lol
01:31 Seroster mom, if you have a swizz army knife, a lighter, a few coins and an eraser in your pocket it takes you ages to fish it out of those tight bastards
01:32 masterofmonks Seroster: relaxed fit.
01:32 Seroster Even if I get my jeans fifteen sizes too large I can't fit crap in those pockets.
01:32 tehdark45 and whats a swizz army knife?
01:33 Seroster /kick tehdark45
01:33 Seroster BASTARD
01:33 tehdark45 i know what a swiss army knife is :P
01:33 Seroster BLASPHEMY!
01:33 Seroster DIE!
01:33 masterofmonks Maybe you are just shaped like a cromagnon.
01:33 tehdark45 Seroster, you spelt swiss wrong >.> i know what a swiss army knife is :P
01:33 dbshortwave HEY I GOT A QUESTION?!
01:34 masterofmonks dbshortwave: Spatula.
01:34 Seroster tehdark45, It's with zs.
01:34 dbshortwave anyone here take a computer engineering class and a cisco class?
01:34 Seroster dbshortwave, no, you got an exclamation mark. ARGH.
01:34 dbshortwave DO THEY NOT TELL YOU WHAT A LPT PORT IS
01:34 tehdark45 >.> americans and their obsessipn with Z
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01:34 tehdark45 obsession*
01:35 Seroster tehdark45, I'm not fucking american!
01:35 dbshortwave all im looking for is a yes
01:35 Seroster I can lie to you if it makes you feel happier...
01:35 tehdark45 Oh sorry lol
01:36 dbshortwave LPT = Local Printer Port
01:36 Seroster You said lpt port you bastard.
01:37 dbshortwave yes i did
01:37 Seroster Isnt that an instance of the RAS syndrome?
01:38 nazca_ could someone pretty please ask Kidwell or Chris to spend a little video time on what power supply they have in those table top coils, what kind of primary input voltage, general considerations and such for building such a coil?
01:38 masterofmonks Seroster: anyway, the problem I have with slash pockets is they are impossible to get into, yet somehow manage to leak their entire contents on the floor when I move or sit.
01:38 Seroster nazca_, OBIT
01:38 Seroster '-'
01:39 Seroster You don't have deep enough slashers.
01:39 Seroster And they are EASIER to get into since there is more fabric involved
01:39 nazca_ OBIT? who died?
01:41 nazca_ (obit usually short for obituary heh)
01:41 Seroster Oil Burner Ignition Transformer.
01:41 Seroster 8-15kv <10ma
01:41 Seroster It's a glorified bug zapper.
01:41 nazca_ ah, furnace ignition, so unused to seeing it shortened
01:42 nazca_ I don't think the table tops have even that much
01:42 Seroster OBITs make great table top TC PSUs
01:43 nazca_ *nod* I just seem to remember Chris reading the plate on the one in the table top they were musical boxing and remarking it was ridiculously puny
01:43 nazca_ like 6-7kv
01:44 nazca_ anyway, I should sleep now lol
01:44 Seroster I really can't think of anything smaller than an obit making 6kv
01:44 nazca_ ttfn
01:45 dbshortwave have fun
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01:45 BotSteve Spatula.
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01:53 Druidic_Rifleman hey geeks
01:57 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&amp;NR=1&amp;v=RBWXQ0t5Mw8 genious
01:57 BotSteve Title: Homemade Metal Bender.MOV - YouTube
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02:11 Seroster cya folks
02:11 Toastdude Bye Seroster
02:16 sndwrx dbshortwave: What are you switching with the LPT port?
02:16 dbshortwave lights
02:16 * sndwrx nods.
02:16 dbshortwave an i plan on using SSR's
02:16 sndwrx Cool.  Do people really not know what LPT is?
02:17 Druidic_Rifleman any thing fun happening
02:17 sndwrx How many switched outputs can you get from LPT port?
02:17 dbshortwave if you know ANYTHING about computers lol
02:17 egrsteve|away 25 pin printer port, 8 bit data + some control lines
02:17 dbshortwave you will know what an LPT port is
02:17 sndwrx Yeah, that's kinda what I had thought.
02:18 egrsteve|away how do you plan on driving the SSRs
02:18 dbshortwave if you use the 8 bit data lines as binary encoder switch
02:18 sndwrx But then again these wiz-kids that are only 15 years old, many of them own computers that don't even have parallel or serial ports, so..  :P
02:18 dbshortwave 5 volt wall pack and a few transisters
02:19 egrsteve|away watch the current draw on the port, I would sudgest 2n7000 mosfets
02:19 egrsteve|away as they are logic level and have a low gate capacitance
02:19 egrsteve|away ie can be driven directly form ttl or cmos logic
02:19 egrsteve|away *from
02:20 egrsteve|away if you want to get fancy you can drive opto triacs that then drive triacs and basicly build your own ssr
02:21 egrsteve|away depending on your budget
02:22 * egrsteve|away thinks he kill chat, osrry
02:22 egrsteve|away *sorry
02:25 Druidic_Rifleman Since new youtube came out it's been crashing on me
02:29 Fulsy why do they needlessly update youtube
02:31 astro73|alice Fulsy: everything's getting updated.
02:31 Fulsy new year?
02:31 Fulsy Coincidentally, So is Chris's Camera :P
02:31 astro73|alice *shrug*
02:31 dbshortwave egrsteve|away would a ULN2003AN or ULN200$AN work?
02:31 sndwrx Google has been in the process of updating the appearance of most of their products.
02:31 dbshortwave -$
02:32 astro73|alice I blame G+
02:39 Cprossu it happens egrsteve|away
02:39 Cprossu lots of dead chat travesties
02:39 dbshortwave ooo
02:39 dbshortwave opto isolators
02:39 * dbshortwave nods
02:39 dbshortwave yeaaaaahhhh
02:42 yNos hay yo
02:45 sndwrx Hey yNos.  How's it going?
02:46 yNos not too shabby, you?
02:47 Cprossu woooo
02:47 sndwrx eh, not bad, thanks.
02:47 sndwrx hey Cprossu
02:47 sndwrx what's up?
02:48 Cprossu not too much
02:48 Cprossu bored though
02:48 sndwrx Learn anything new about the Kindle?
02:48 Cprossu tons
02:48 yNos which kindle?
02:49 yNos v1?
02:49 sndwrx Like what?
02:49 Cprossu v3 eg
02:49 Cprossu oh the basic, disabling the bigbrother stuff, usb network tethering, http server, vnc client, and a proxy bypass
02:50 sndwrx Fun.  What about the big brother stuff?
02:50 sndwrx I'll have to pick your brain, I'm thinking about getting one myself.
02:51 sndwrx And the library I'm working with has decided to get a couple e-readers so we're getting the Kindle keyboard and touch and a Nook Tablet.
02:52 Cprossu mine is a 'keyboard'
02:52 sndwrx Right.
02:52 Cprossu the interesting thing is the touch version is locked down tight for 3g
02:52 sndwrx Just getting the wifi for the touch.
02:53 sndwrx getting a 3g "with special offers" for the keyboard though.
02:53 Monkeh Cprossu: So's the keyboard really
02:53 Cprossu the 'with special offers' uses firmware 3.2.1 instead of 3.1 (like mine)
02:53 Monkeh Cprossu: It all goes through their big brother proxy.
02:53 Monkeh Cprossu: Then again, seeing as the service is free, I'm not overly tempted to abuse it.
02:54 Cprossu I just want it for emergencies
02:54 Monkeh sndwrx: 'with annoying ads'
02:54 sndwrx Monkeh: Right.
02:54 Cprossu and some of it's things are in different places too...
02:54 sndwrx So if we get one shipped from Amazon, chances are good it'll have the newest firmware.
02:54 Cprossu I wonder if you can force 3.1 on a 3.2.1 device
02:54 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, for just small stuff it's fine.
02:54 sndwrx Yeah, I thought I read that you can downgrade the firmware.
02:54 Cprossu "with offers is 3.2.1, without offers is 3.1"
02:54 sndwrx Don't know where I found it though.
02:54 Cprossu and it's not a downgrade/upgrade
02:55 Cprossu it's just a different firmware
02:55 sndwrx Well, whatever.
02:55 Monkeh Cprossu: Just note that Amazon have said they'll take away 3G net access for everyone if it gets abused (funnily enough, there's not a single public site which advertises ways to open up the 3G)
02:55 yNos so.. cn you ssh over 3g?
02:55 Monkeh yNos: Yes.
02:55 sndwrx I wouldn't be interested in abusing it, like tethering from it or something.
02:55 yNos through their proxies..
02:56 yNos so you can tunnel..
02:56 sndwrx But I'd need SSH and relatively unrestricted web access.
02:56 yNos if that is your problem...
02:56 Monkeh yNos: Yeah, but the problem is the device itself is heavily locked down. The browser doesn't work except through the proxy.
02:57 sndwrx So can you change the hosts file so the browser thinks it's going through the proxy?  :P
02:57 Monkeh It's a bit of a mess and nobody is overly interested in opening it up
02:57 yNos i guess i am too used to text browsing..
02:57 sndwrx I really don't like the idea of going through a proxy anyway, that's too much for me.
02:57 Monkeh Because it's not an overly usable screen
02:57 Monkeh And Amazon can and will suspend accounts of people who try and tether them
02:58 yNos android based?
02:58 Monkeh Personally I find my phone is more useful for an emergency device, although the keyboard on the Kindle is easier.
02:58 Monkeh yNos: No.
02:59 Monkeh yNos: The Kindle Fire is. The Kindle is custom (but Linux based).
02:59 lwq1996 hia guys
02:59 yNos like the kindle v1?
02:59 Cprossu oddly enough the only 'banned' ones I've seen are from people who returned too many items to amazon and had their kindle on their account Monkeh
02:59 lwq1996 .seen wannabe
02:59 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe 2854.82 hours ago at 2011-08-06 04:10:15 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:59:25 UTC
02:59 sndwrx Monkeh: With 4.5Mb/1.5Mb connection on my old G1, I'm not least bit interested in tethering off a shite Kindle connection.
02:59 yNos i used some little web ssh client with that..
02:59 lwq1996 .seen wannab1987
02:59 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannab1987 3202.90 hours ago at 2011-07-22 16:05:38 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:59:36 UTC
02:59 yNos worked ok for irssi and a few other apps
02:59 Monkeh yNos: There's not a lot of difference between the original and the Kindle 3.
02:59 Monkeh yNos: Same basic software.
03:00 yNos simple 'nuff
03:00 Monkeh Either way there's not a lot of point trying to hack into the 3G if your phone has a data package ;)
03:00 Monkeh And if you want the hardware keyboard, tether to your phone
03:00 yNos mine does, but it all goes through work..
03:00 sndwrx G1 has a keyboard.
03:01 Monkeh sndwrx: Very nice.
03:01 Monkeh My SGSII does not
03:01 Monkeh But I'm okay with that, because the touchscreen is still a lot easier than using a numpad..
03:01 sndwrx Either way, I don't like the idea of going through a proxy and not having SSH access on a device that /I own/.
03:01 Monkeh sndwrx: Why? You're not paying for the 3G.
03:02 Monkeh sndwrx: And the proxy is there because, basically, the only reason the Kindle has any form of internet access is to get books.
03:02 sndwrx I paid for it by purchasing the device in the first place.
03:02 Monkeh sndwrx: That's not how they pay for their data contracts.
03:02 Monkeh You paid for the capability, they include a free 3G connection with certain restrictions.
03:02 sndwrx They advertise it as including web browsing.  I want the ability to browse without someone blatantly listening in.
03:02 yNos am thinking of snagging an android tab of some sort.. i am passively looking.. any suggestions?
03:02 sndwrx Well, regardless.
03:03 Monkeh yNos: I've been looking around, amazingly hard to find a good one.
03:03 yNos or a linux tab...
03:03 sndwrx yNos: Depending on price range, Nook Tablet or Viewsonic G-tab.
03:03 Monkeh yNos: I'd really like an HP Touchpad but they're impossible to get now.
03:03 Toastdude yNos: !
03:03 lwq1996 so who all is going hunting tomorrow :D
03:03 yNos TOAST!
03:03 Toastdude :D
03:03 Toastdude Lee!
03:03 lwq1996 toesdude :D
03:04 Cprossu I bought mine to abuse a system, for a neat little device with an epaper screen and long batt life, and to store my tech manuals on.
03:04 Monkeh Cprossu: The battery life is amazing if you remember to turn off the wifi/3G
03:05 Cprossu even with it on it's ~10 hours or better
03:05 Monkeh Cprossu: With it on I've had days.
03:05 Monkeh Cprossu: With it off, several weeks.
03:05 lwq1996 what technology are you talking about :P
03:05 Monkeh And I read like batman eats cake.
03:07 yNos Cprossu: i got my v1 kindle for the same reason.. couple hundgred lbs of manuals in a small pkg
03:07 Monkeh yNos: How fast at displaying Portable Document Fail is it?
03:07 Monkeh I haven't tried on mine
03:08 yNos it converted every HP/IBM manual i threw at it,.
03:08 yNos it cant natively view a pdf
03:08 yNos and video pdfs it barfs on
03:08 yNos but all mine are fairly textual
03:11 Monkeh yNos: Ah, see, mine does PDF natively.
03:11 sndwrx Yours are both v1?
03:11 Monkeh Just haven't tried it. I imagine like any other PDF app it'll be.. broken and slow.
03:11 Monkeh But that's the nature of PDF.
03:11 Monkeh sndwrx: No, mine is a 3.
03:11 sndwrx oh
03:13 sndwrx Has anyone tried Duokan on their kindle?
03:15 Monkeh sndwrx: Eh, half-translated Chinese stuff. No.
03:15 sndwrx Apparently there's "KindleOS X", too.  for a "small donation of $4.99".
03:16 Monkeh sndwrx: That's just Duokan'tspeakenglish
03:16 yNos I need to get to bed
03:16 yNos am dozing off on the couch
03:16 yNos lol
03:16 yNos gnite all
03:17 sndwrx Night yNos.
03:17 sndwrx Duokan is free.
03:17 sndwrx Are you saying someone has renamed Duokan and is attempting to sell it?
03:18 Monkeh sndwrx: Not even renamed. It's a straight copy of the files with some better installation instructions.
03:18 sndwrx Lovely.
03:18 Monkeh And fairly common.
03:18 sndwrx I didn't realize Duokan has mp3 capability.
03:18 Monkeh Lots of free and Free projects get stolen like that.
03:19 sndwrx Yeah, I can imagine.
03:19 Monkeh sndwrx: There are other ways to play MP3s on a Kindle
03:19 Monkeh Anyway, it's battery-munching and doesn't sound that great
03:19 Monkeh As a reader the Kindle is just about perfect as it is
03:19 sndwrx Right.  I was just curious if anyone had played with it.
03:20 Monkeh All I've done to mine is change the screensavers and disable the log sending.
03:20 sndwrx What kind of logs was it sending out?
03:20 Monkeh (and rooting it lets you restart the UI over USB, which means Calibre can update the collections)
03:20 Monkeh sndwrx: Oh, y'know, everything.
03:21 Monkeh sndwrx: Location. Files you've been reading. When you've been using it.
03:21 Monkeh My wifi PSK is probably in there somewhere..
03:21 sndwrx Yeah, that's the stuff I don't approve of.
03:21 Monkeh sndwrx: It's easily disabled, but yes, I dislike the practice. At least they don't get shitty with people over rooting the device, though.
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03:22 sndwrx yet
03:23 Toastdude Jess
03:23 KawaiiJess Oye
03:23 Monkeh sndwrx: It's been rooted for ages.
03:23 sndwrx Right.
03:23 sndwrx I realize that.
03:24 Monkeh sndwrx: They also stated when they announced the Kindle Fire that if people wanted to root them, they wouldn't actively try and prevent them from doing so.
03:24 sndwrx Right.
03:24 sndwrx I suspect that's just a temporary ploy to gain more sales.
03:24 KawaiiJess Toastdude, what?
03:25 Toastdude Hi
03:25 Monkeh sndwrx: So long as you stick to the agreements with them (ie. don't abuse 3G, don't remove our ads from the cheap versions), they really don't care what you do.
03:25 Toastdude :P
03:25 sndwrx Sony encouraged people to put Linux on the PS3 for a long time, too.
03:25 eadthem ya that ended
03:25 Monkeh sndwrx: They didn't say they encouraged. As I recall it does actually require some hacking around the bootloader to get a custom ROM on it.
03:25 sndwrx They provided a toolkit to do it.
03:25 Monkeh sndwrx: But they're not going to actively unroot them just to prevent people from using their own devices.
03:25 sndwrx I call that encouraging.
03:26 Monkeh sndwrx: The Fire, not the PS3.
03:26 sndwrx Oh, got it.
03:26 sndwrx Well I won't be buying a Kindle Fire.
03:26 sndwrx So I'm not concerned about that.
03:26 Monkeh The PS3, they got rid of it after getting shirty over someone trying to make full use of the hardware (the hypervisor blocked direct GPU access)
03:26 sndwrx There are other tablets I'll buy before a Fire.
03:27 Monkeh Very shortly after that, of course, people actually bothered to turn a serious eye to the PS3 and oh look, we've cracked it wide open.
03:27 Monkeh Which could've been done within weeks of them hitting shelves, but we didn't, because Sony didn't stop us from at least having some fun with them.
03:28 Monkeh I think that entire episode has delivered a message to Sony and MS about securing their devices.
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03:29 * sndwrx nods.
03:29 Monkeh sndwrx: There's basically three options.
03:29 Monkeh 1: Don't get in our way
03:30 Monkeh 2: Do a proper job of it and take it gracefully when we finally do break it open
03:30 Monkeh 3: Do a half-assed job, get all shirty about it, and then get publically embarrassed in a major way.
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03:30 sndwrx yeah.
03:30 Monkeh I really couldn't quite believe my eyes at how the PS3 was broken.
03:30 sndwrx And most companies seem to opt for number three.
03:31 Monkeh Any random guy on the street would see a problem with that after a five minute runthrough of crypto..
03:31 sndwrx (on a mostly unrelated topic) What ever happened to OpenMoko, anyway?
03:32 Monkeh sndwrx: Still crawling along afaik
03:32 Monkeh It's never going to get anywhere
03:32 sndwrx Unfortunately not.
03:33 Monkeh Android's open and the hardware is becoming more open
03:33 sndwrx But in the days before Android and iPhone, it was a pretty neat concept.
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03:33 Monkeh Speaking of Android
03:33 Monkeh Anyone here an Android dev? (and not just random cheap apps)
03:33 eadthem theres defanate positives to letting pepole root your custom device
03:34 eadthem you never know what cool new feature they may make that you can steel
03:34 Monkeh eadthem: Hell, Samsung gave the CM devs a pile of free phones and just said 'here, now get CM running properly on these.'
03:34 sndwrx yep.
03:34 masterofmonks Holy crap, that was certainly the wrong side of the edge to touch.
03:34 Monkeh eadthem: Because hey, what do a few phones and a couple of engineers for relations cost you?
03:34 sndwrx Cyanogenmod is the best ROM I've used between a couple different devices.
03:34 eadthem yep
03:34 Monkeh eadthem: They've even got the CM lead on the payroll iirc
03:35 eadthem cm?
03:35 Monkeh eadthem: Cyanogenmod.
03:35 sndwrx Cyanogenmod
03:35 eadthem speaking of   anyone herd anything about carrier IQ
03:35 masterofmonks Speaking of android, I was pleased to find that my Virgin Mobile phone did not have Carrier IQ.
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03:36 Monkeh masterofmonks: What phone is it?
03:36 masterofmonks Optimus V.
03:36 eadthem afaik verison dosent ither
03:37 eadthem verizon
03:37 masterofmonks eadthem: There is an app to detect it now.
03:37 eadthem wouldnt know
03:37 masterofmonks That was a statement.
03:37 eadthem im running brew on a motorola flip phone
03:37 Monkeh masterofmonks: Get CM up on that thing.
03:38 masterofmonks Monkeh: Why?
03:38 Monkeh masterofmonks: Why not?
03:38 eadthem when someone shows me a phone that has the features i want in a desktop ile consider getting it instead of the desktop
03:38 masterofmonks eadthem: that makes no sense at all.
03:38 masterofmonks I have a phone and a desktop.
03:38 Monkeh The phone is not to replace the desktop, but to augment it.
03:39 masterofmonks Monkeh: because my phone works perfectly well.
03:39 Monkeh I don't take my desktop with me places, but I can still read my mail or get in touch with people on IRC if I need to.
03:39 Monkeh masterofmonks: Always worth trying things.
03:39 eadthem till then its just a phone that cant  run more than 1 real sized monitor, run dvd/cd/bluray, mouse, keyboard, 5.1 sound, wow, ltspice ...
03:39 sndwrx There's a new exploit for Android now, though.
03:39 Monkeh I could've just stuck with the stock Samsung firmware but frankly, CM is a lot faster.
03:39 sndwrx Not just carrier IO
03:40 Monkeh ooh, sweet, there's already an unofficial Galaxy Mini port
03:41 * Monkeh advances plans for backup phone
03:42 eadthem i think the 1 true thing that will get carrier IQ put out of busness is the fact that there are thousans of wireless techs who will say quite quickly its totaly unessicary to maintain the networks
03:42 eadthem it was truely pure profit
03:42 sndwrx http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/1/2602478/as-if-avg-gate-and-carrier-io-is-not-enough-new-android-glitch-allows
03:42 BotSteve Title: As if AVG-gate and Carrier IO is not enough, new android glitch allows hackers to bug phone calls | The Verge Forums
03:44 eadthem avg-gate?
03:45 masterofmonks Monkeh: I don't see my phone listed under the supported devices for one.
03:48 eadthem for carrier IQ?
03:48 masterofmonks For Cyanogenmod.
03:56 tehdark45 if you have a galaxy s darkys is like a requirement
03:56 tehdark45 lol
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04:23 lwq1996 wow this is totally a win http://www.photoblip.com/pictures/13014/challenge-accepted.html
04:24 BotSteve Title: Challenge Accepted...
04:24 lwq1996 .yuno
04:24 BotSteve User: Y U NO HAVE LIFE??????????????????
04:24 lwq1996 .yuno
04:24 BotSteve Fat people who don't wear shirts: Y U NO HAVE SHAME??????
04:26 lwq1996 .yuno
04:26 BotSteve Cat: Y U NO SPEEK ENGRISH?????????
04:39 lwq1996 anyone here
04:39 masterofmonks Nope.
04:40 masterofmonks Aren't you leaving to hunt in a few hours?
04:41 lwq1996 6 or 7
04:42 lwq1996 im so bored
04:42 lwq1996 and tomorrow i only get to spend a half a day in the woods, my dad has to go get parts for his truck tomorrow because he blew a break line
04:45 masterofmonks I see.
04:45 masterofmonks Well it's bedtime for me.
04:48 lwq1996 night mom
04:54 * lwq1996 slaps toastdude with a rotten fish
05:08 Sgt_Lemming soo...
05:08 Sgt_Lemming turns out the laser we got last night
05:08 Sgt_Lemming is a 4 watt krypyon laser
05:08 lwq1996 yes?
05:09 lwq1996 ok? that means
05:09 Sgt_Lemming krypton*
05:09 Sgt_Lemming visible light output :-D
05:09 lwq1996 ah
05:09 Sgt_Lemming with enough power to burn thing
05:09 Thermoelectric Mmm, burney laser.
05:09 lwq1996 is it true you can make a burning lazer from a blue ray disk play lazer
05:09 eadthem mm quick question  is my mini maglight on my keychain ok for carry on  on a flight?
05:10 Sgt_Lemming we pulled it out of a dumpster Thermoelectric :-P
05:10 eadthem 2x AA
05:10 Sgt_Lemming eadthem, should be fine
05:10 Thermoelectric Oh nice.
05:10 Sgt_Lemming never heard of them having issues with flashlights in general
05:10 eadthem i could understand them not wanting a double D  or quad D
05:10 lwq1996 why woulnt you?
05:10 NeWtoz there is a nifty tsa website for that
05:10 lwq1996 lol
05:11 eadthem well im going to bed gonna try to sleep
05:12 NeWtoz LAME
05:12 NeWtoz is a good program
05:12 lwq1996 beds for lossers
05:12 eadthem the LAME library is good
05:12 * lwq1996 hears a noise outside
05:13 * lwq1996 grabs 6in blade
05:16 * Sgt_Lemming brandishes a 60" blade
05:17 * Katemonster brandishes .357" tube
05:17 * Sgt_Lemming brandishes 1.2" tube
05:17 lwq1996 i dont own big blades
05:17 lwq1996 i like concealing my weapons
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05:18 * lwq1996 jumps on captainniobe
05:19 CaptainNiobe LEE! *glomps* how are you?
05:20 * Katemonster listening to Johnny Cash's cover of Hurt
05:20 lwq1996 hi, tired and bored
05:20 lwq1996 my eye is tritching
05:21 CaptainNiobe i just had to reset my modem to factory settings because, once again, it lost internet speed... sick of it...
05:21 lwq1996 twitching
05:21 Sgt_Lemming CaptainNiobe, have you tried just turning the power off to it completely?
05:22 lwq1996 what brand of router is it
05:22 CaptainNiobe doesn't fix it, i tried all sorts of things before i finally figured out resetting to factory fixes it...
05:23 Toastdude CaptainNiobe!!
05:23 lwq1996 toesdude i slaped you with a rotten fish earlier
05:23 CaptainNiobe my modem is a thomson tg782t, with bigpond crap on it
05:23 CaptainNiobe hey toast :D
05:24 lwq1996 ive never heard of that brand
05:24 CaptainNiobe it's probably aussie...
05:24 lwq1996 ive heard of netgear, belkin, linsbees,
05:24 Toastdude linksys?
05:24 lwq1996 yes
05:24 lwq1996 i was trying to figure out how it was spelled
05:25 Toastdude ^
05:25 lwq1996 and i always put bee in there for some reason
05:25 Toastdude lol
05:25 NeWtoz BEES
05:25 NeWtoz SAVE YOURSELF
05:25 lwq1996 i see newtoz is lurking again
05:26 Toastdude You're after my robot bee, NeWtoz!
05:26 CaptainNiobe for the record, my belief is my modem's troubles come from the fact it *isn't* factory, telsta/bigpond's o/s runs it... hencer therein lies the problem
05:26 NeWtoz Bees! Bees! Bees in the car! Bees everywhere! God, they're huge and they're sting crazy! They're ripping my flesh off! Run away, your firearms are useless against them!
05:27 lwq1996 you know i used to have a fear of bees
05:27 Toastdude I did too
05:27 Toastdude .yt youre after my robot bee
05:27 BotSteve Toastdude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOq1ViF8oFk
05:27 lwq1996 i mean if a bee got like 15ft from me i would freak out :P
05:27 NeWtoz I never had a fear of bees
05:27 Toastdude :D
05:27 lwq1996 now i can go through a swarm without being afraid
05:27 NeWtoz I'm not even scared of them
05:29 NeWtoz just don't mess with them and they won't mess with you
05:29 lwq1996 this would be a usefull and fun thing to have
05:29 lwq1996 http://www.harborfreight.com/digital-angle-gauge-95998.html
05:29 BotSteve Title: Digital Angle Finder / Angle Gauge
05:29 lwq1996 yup newtoz
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05:36 tehdark45 lwq1996, does this help?
05:37 lwq1996 yup :P
05:37 Katemonster okay, fuck everything, i'm going to bed.
05:37 NeWtoz hey!
05:37 CaptainNiobe g'night kate :)
05:37 lwq1996 night kate, dont get to stressed now you hear?
05:38 NeWtoz consent first!
05:38 Katemonster ha ha ha aaaaaah fuck too late.  it's finals week, i'm already stressed out
05:39 lwq1996 go get some weed :P
05:39 * Sgt_Lemming hands Katemonster an AA-12 and a crate of Frag20 ammo and points her in the direction of a wall of textbooks
05:39 lwq1996 but i didnt say that ok ;)
05:39 * NeWtoz replaces the drugs with a placebo
05:39 Katemonster i don't do (non-prescription) drugs.
05:39 Katemonster except crowbars.
05:39 Katemonster i do crowbars like crazy.
05:39 lwq1996 crowbars
05:39 lwq1996 ?
05:40 * Katemonster hopes someone, anyone, will get that reference
05:40 NeWtoz you know, those metal things
05:40 * lwq1996 still doesnt know
05:40 NeWtoz she's into that sort of thing
05:41 lwq1996 oh
05:41 NeWtoz I dont' get it either
05:41 NeWtoz I'm just procrastinating going to bed myself
05:41 lwq1996 lol
05:42 lwq1996 i need to replace my computer plug
05:43 tehdark45 half life?
05:44 lwq1996 what?
05:44 NeWtoz (the crowbar reference)
05:44 Katemonster http://samandfuzzy.com/comics/00000324.gif
05:44 tehdark45 gordan freeman
05:44 lwq1996 oh i dont play half life
05:44 Katemonster has nothing to do with HL
05:45 lwq1996 sorry im to young to know any o this
05:45 tehdark45 lwq1996, what??? are you sick?
05:45 tehdark45 :P
05:45 Katemonster http://samandfuzzy.com/comics/00001483.gif
05:45 Katemonster ...over 1000 pages later...
05:46 lwq1996 lol
05:46 lwq1996 what im not sick
05:47 Katemonster anyway
05:47 Katemonster yeah
05:47 Katemonster i'm gonna go do some crowbars
05:47 tehdark45 yep
05:47 Katemonster and go to bed.
05:47 Katemonster goodnight.
05:47 lwq1996 night
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05:52 lwq1996 lol druid look at kates leaving message
05:52 Druidic_Rifleman lol
05:56 tehdark45 Druidic_Rifleman, your ISP uses that same first 2 numbers as mine
05:56 tehdark45 must be a canadain thing
05:56 tehdark45 lol
05:59 lwq1996 have you ever noticed somehing, that everything is know to the state of California to cause cancer or birth defects
06:00 Druidic_Rifleman bell shitpatico?
06:02 tehdark45 Druidic_Rifleman, wat?
06:03 tehdark45 if your saying what i think you are, i haz shaw
06:06 Druidic_Rifleman ah'\
06:06 tehdark45 Lol
06:07 tehdark45 you like bell Druidic_Rifleman?
06:11 Druidic_Rifleman we use it here
06:11 tehdark45 oh and lwq1996, its all the drugs
06:11 tehdark45 lol
06:11 lwq1996 what?
06:11 tehdark45 california
06:12 lwq1996 OH, LOL IK
06:16 Druidic_Rifleman soooo i am bored
06:16 NeWtoz i am saw
06:17 tehdark45 hmmm
06:17 tehdark45 lets talk then
06:17 NeWtoz bed time
06:17 tehdark45 or sleep lol
06:18 NeWtoz I got work in 9 hours
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06:19 Firekingdom any one here?
06:19 MoxieMike__ i'm here, but distracted by product training
06:19 lwq1996 hi firekingdom
06:19 Druidic_Rifleman lemming you on?
06:20 Firekingdom does the geek group get ram>
06:20 Firekingdom ?
06:20 Firekingdom im looking for 184 ddr 333 4gb kit
06:20 Sgt_Lemming yeah I am
06:20 Firekingdom the ram is old
06:21 Firekingdom but i dont like how it is 250 plus for it
06:21 Druidic_Rifleman Can you use google scetch up for designing Parts?
06:21 Sgt_Lemming yes
06:21 lwq1996 well im getting off guys later
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06:21 Sgt_Lemming the pieces you design can be componentised as well
06:22 MoxieMike__ if you want drawings made up, i can take your sketchup drawings and make them in a different 3
06:22 MoxieMike__ 3D solid modeling program and make engineering drawings from there
06:25 Druidic_Rifleman yeah it's Not very intuitive
06:25 tehdark45 AutoCAD?
06:27 Druidic_Rifleman Costs money
06:28 tehdark45 no
06:28 MoxieMike__ i'll do it for free
06:29 MoxieMike__ using Autodesk Inventor
06:29 tehdark45 http://students.autodesk.com/
06:29 BotSteve Title: Autodesk Education Community
06:32 Druidic_Rifleman ooooooooooohhhhhh,....
06:33 tehdark45 ;)
06:34 Druidic_Rifleman Free auto cad whats the Catch
06:36 tehdark45 watermark
06:36 MoxieMike__ nothing...it's a student version
06:36 MoxieMike__ watermark
06:36 MoxieMike__ and i think it'll work for a year before you need to get the next version
06:44 Druidic_Rifleman tried registering
06:45 tonsofpcs ?
06:45 tonsofpcs inventor != autocad
06:45 tonsofpcs oh, the student version? you can't actually do anything with the DWGs it makes.
06:50 JA12 http://onlineengineeringprograms.org/2011/top-25-open-source-software-apps-for-engineers/
06:50 BotSteve Title: Top 25 Open Source Software Apps for Engineers | Blogineering
06:51 Druidic_Rifleman soooo i can't do any thing with what i do???
06:52 MoxieMike__ i don't have the student version
07:00 Druidic_Rifleman i see
07:06 Druidic_Rifleman Soooo can i use the student version to Design something i want to build on a trip to Galactic HQ
07:09 MoxieMike__ yes
07:09 Druidic_Rifleman Cool
07:17 Druidic_Rifleman I used emachineshop which was cool but the program was limited
07:17 Druidic_Rifleman I had to order through them
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07:29 Druidic_Rifleman the sheet router looks like a tool that could be used allot of epic ways
07:30 Sgt_Lemming yes, yes it can
07:30 pegasus shit, now we have to invent another imaginary animal
07:31 pegasus oh, wait, allot is already a word
07:31 * pegasus ponders
07:31 pegasus yeah, i can't turn that into a real thought
07:40 tehdark45 Dogtopus?
07:46 Druidic_Rifleman Hey lemming do you ausies have cameras?
07:46 Sgt_Lemming yes
07:46 Sgt_Lemming why?
07:46 Druidic_Rifleman you should get the guy from scaled tanks and do an interview
07:46 Sgt_Lemming scaled tanks?
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07:47 Druidic_Rifleman he's an aussie
07:48 Druidic_Rifleman he built a scaled patton tank
07:48 Druidic_Rifleman Let me linkify
07:48 Druidic_Rifleman I SUMMON GOOGLE FOOOO POWER!!!!!!!
07:48 tehdark45 .g scaled tanks
07:48 BotSteve tehdark45: http://www.scaledtanks.com/news.php
07:49 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkFMeQCqMxo
07:49 BotSteve Title: How to build a 2/5 th scale Tank. M60 field trials - YouTube
07:49 Druidic_Rifleman this guy is the founderish dude
07:49 tehdark45 beat you Druidic_Rifleman :P
07:50 Druidic_Rifleman Yeah cause you cheated
07:50 tehdark45 How?
07:50 Sgt_Lemming you do realize australia is kinda large Druidic_Rifleman...
07:50 Druidic_Rifleman ...
07:50 Sgt_Lemming he could be like 6 hours flight from here...
07:50 Druidic_Rifleman and so is canada
07:50 Druidic_Rifleman it's bigger
07:50 Druidic_Rifleman And emailing him hurts how
07:50 tehdark45 least densly popiulated country too
07:50 Druidic_Rifleman He might Live 1 hour
07:51 Sgt_Lemming pretty sure australia is bigger than canada Druidic_Rifleman
07:51 Druidic_Rifleman Nope
07:51 Druidic_Rifleman Canada's bigger
07:51 Druidic_Rifleman Would be Cool Video and get you roo lovers some attention
07:53 tehdark45 AU: 7,617,930 km2 CA: 9,984,670 km2
07:53 Sgt_Lemming eh
07:53 Sgt_Lemming oh well
07:53 tehdark45 russia is the only bigger country
07:53 Druidic_Rifleman and it keeps shrinking
07:54 tehdark45 Australia is the only country that is also a continent too right? Or is Australia part of Ociena?
07:56 Sgt_Lemming depends how you divide it tehdark45
07:56 Sgt_Lemming but it's the largest country on a single island, largest island outright
07:56 tehdark45 Oh ok
07:59 Druidic_Rifleman Still it's something cool to look into
07:59 Druidic_Rifleman GR has never had a tank
08:02 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc3_mB4h4zk&amp;feature=player_embedded
08:02 BotSteve Title: Judge Mental weapon test.m4v - YouTube
08:08 Druidic_Rifleman killer robot
08:12 Sgt_Lemming indeed
08:12 Sgt_Lemming looks like it will be one to contend with
08:51 Druidic_Rifleman All i have to do is hang fromthe ceiling
08:51 Druidic_Rifleman or go up some stairds
08:51 Druidic_Rifleman stairs
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09:41 Druidic_Rifleman I have auto cad Is happy
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11:12 Druidic_Rifleman any one awake
11:12 Electronics hmm
11:16 Druidic_Rifleman Do you still play minecraft?
11:16 Electronics Yep, when I have the time
11:19 Druidic_Rifleman still play on zozo's sever
11:19 Druidic_Rifleman ??
11:19 Electronics Not really, I have it bookmarked I think though.
11:19 Electronics is it at 1.0?
11:22 Druidic_Rifleman not yet let me check
11:23 Druidic_Rifleman I am really tempted to update
11:23 Electronics I just keep 2 .jar files
11:28 Druidic_Rifleman thats a pain though
11:28 Electronics meh
11:53 Monkeh masterofmonks: It's unofficial.
12:17 Monkeh yNos: ping.
12:41 masterofmonks Monkeh yes, and from what I read it has some major lacks.
12:42 killaway^ZZzz oh joy i can borow a highspeed camera.. 1200 frames pr.sec.  would be cool to film the teslacoil i think :D
12:46 Sgt_Lemming that would be cool
12:46 Sgt_Lemming just need a rapatronic camera next
12:46 Sgt_Lemming .w rapatronics camera
12:46 BotSteve "The rapatronic camera (a contraction of Rapid Action Electronic) is a high-speed camera capable of recording a still image with an exposure time as brief as 10 nanoseconds (billionths of a second)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapatronic_camera
13:14 killaway^ZZzz :)
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13:28 CaptainNiobe anyone know of any other interesting channels to join on freenode?
13:30 Seroster Erm
13:30 Seroster #wrongplanet
13:30 Seroster 90% aspietards
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15:15 MadManMarkAu Mouse clicking speed test: http://www.urban75.com/Mag/java7.html <-- I scored 107. Can anyone beat my score?
15:15 BotSteve Title: World Mouseclicking Competition!
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15:34 dbshortwave heh
15:34 dbshortwave this is gunna be sweet
15:35 CaptainNiobe what is?
15:36 dbshortwave i got this sweet lil plug in for winamp
15:36 CaptainNiobe :D
15:36 dbshortwave as soon as i find my belkin patch
15:36 dbshortwave for the printer port
15:36 dbshortwave im going to make a few LED meters that plug into that
15:36 dbshortwave lol
15:37 dbshortwave and its going tobe " go big or go home"
15:37 CaptainNiobe :)
15:37 dbshortwave and if i get creative
15:38 dbshortwave this plug in will let me control lights an such
15:38 yNos Monkeh: PONG!
15:38 dbshortwave independantly
15:40 dbshortwave ive also got a mustek scanner im going to rape of its parts
15:40 dbshortwave lol
15:42 mashpriborintorg the lastest scanners I did take apart were almost empty, onto newer ones everything is packed in a tiny assembly, there is not much to see or salvage
15:43 dbshortwave this one was a parallel one
15:43 dbshortwave or printer port
15:43 mashpriborintorg you may ave at least a stepper motor and a CFL with its inverter board, as reusable parts
15:44 dbshortwave ive got a few DB25's
15:44 dbshortwave power jack
15:44 dbshortwave some caps
15:44 dbshortwave looks a stepper driver
15:45 dbshortwave 90% of this board is serface mount
15:47 mashpriborintorg the linear ccd is cool to look at with binocular magnifier lens
15:48 mashpriborintorg ccd, af and wb sensors from cameras too, tiny treasures of technology
15:54 dbshortwave YAY FLAT RIBBONS
15:55 dbshortwave stainless rods
15:59 mashpriborintorg I used to have a big bag of ribbons, it ended up on ebay
16:00 tonsofpcs hi
16:01 mashpriborintorg I already took apart lab instruments, aircraft electronics, even missile parts, so dismantling consumer stuff is just annoying for me now :p
16:01 mashpriborintorg hi tonsofpcs
16:01 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: what about dismantling consumer electronics with a sledge hammer?
16:01 tonsofpcs :D
16:02 dbshortwave now i have drive shafts or axels
16:02 dbshortwave i bay build a tank
16:02 tonsofpcs also, I think I may have water in my gas tank in my Rav4, any suggestions for a fuel additive?
16:03 dbshortwave seafoam
16:04 dbshortwave it will clean everything and dry up the water
16:06 dbshortwave lol i put it in my el camino and it cleaned the crap and yellow stuff out of the carb, not only that but it dried the tank out from all the moisture sitting
16:06 tonsofpcs I see 5 'seafoam' products... which one?
16:07 dbshortwave the auto and marine
16:08 tonsofpcs http://www.seafoamsales.com/motor-treatment.html ?
16:08 BotSteve Title: Sea Foam | Motor Treatment | General Content - Motor Treatment
16:09 dbshortwave thats it
16:11 tonsofpcs hmm, looks more like a 'preventative' for water in fuel, not designed to pull up water that's been sitting (but of course, I'm not an expert).  I saw "HEET" which looked interesting -- but again, not an expert
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16:11 tonsofpcs (note that this vehicle is nearing 100k miles)
16:12 dbshortwave not it will dry a tank out lol
16:12 dbshortwave heet works too
16:12 dbshortwave seafoam is really good
16:13 tonsofpcs oh, and NY adds ethanol to fuel for winter, is that an issue with either? (I miss MTBE)
16:14 dbshortwave not really
16:15 dbshortwave the one thing that causes water is the fact that if you leave it go dry
16:15 dbshortwave or empty
16:15 tonsofpcs k.  follow instructions on bottle?
16:15 dbshortwave ive always just dumped in a half of can to the tank and fill
16:16 dbshortwave that way it mixes in with what water is in there
16:16 tonsofpcs well, there was major flooding in this area, gas supplies were likely contaminated, I recently drove enough to bring my tank to 1 gal or less left
16:16 dbshortwave you have an in tank fuel pump right ?
16:16 tonsofpcs nfc
16:17 tonsofpcs it's a rav4, no user servicable parts inside (because they're all a PITA to get to)
16:17 dbshortwave pretty much ok ... yeah keep an eye on that ...
16:18 dbshortwave water will damage a pump
16:19 tonsofpcs like, seriously, changing a light bulb in the thing is a 2 hour ordeal.  I was surprised when I had to jump start it that it only took about 15-20 minutes to get to the battery terminals.
16:19 dbshortwave gas station here in town where im at we put fuel in it had water in it
16:19 tonsofpcs I'd bet that the gas distribution facilities in town all have water in them.
16:20 dbshortwave yeah
16:20 dbshortwave i seen like 5 or 6 cars get towed out of there cause of water
16:20 tonsofpcs they had at least 1' of water above ground, some gas stations I'm sure had 6-8'
16:21 dbshortwave yuck
16:21 dbshortwave -.-
16:21 tonsofpcs right.
16:21 dbshortwave nothing they can do
16:21 tonsofpcs that's why it's my primary theory (having a lot of condensated water spew out when I cold start the car, it doesn't smell like coolant)
16:22 dbshortwave but they could order large amounts of dry gas to dump down into the tanks
16:22 tonsofpcs I'm sure that some of them did (at least one of them was offline for a week)
16:23 tonsofpcs no water seen yet in the filter (or whatever you call the water separation aparatus) with the 300 gal of diesel we just got at work, so that's a good sign at least
16:23 dbshortwave being that you are seeing plooms of moisture i would just use heat
16:23 dbshortwave if you had a no start due to water i would use seafoam
16:24 dbshortwave yeah it is
16:24 dbshortwave ahhh crap where to start with htis pile of stuf
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16:26 killakee argh my daughter has taken my pc to play disney games on..
16:27 dbshortwave lol
16:27 tonsofpcs get her a wii?
16:27 killakee im sitting on my mini laptop EEee thingy
16:27 tonsofpcs (I'm assuming that the wii is where disney is targeting its games these days)
16:28 killakee a wii would be used pritty mutch everyday :D
16:28 killakee hehe
16:28 killakee xmas soon ;)
16:28 tonsofpcs right, avoiding the 'using my PC' problem
16:28 killakee hehe
16:33 dbshortwave heh
16:34 dbshortwave i need fuud
16:34 tonsofpcs mmm, fuud
16:35 * tonsofpcs grabs a giant container of peanut butter filled pretzels
16:39 tonsofpcs http://shop.hk-anderson.com/p-104-peanut-butter-filled-nuggets.aspxa
16:40 tonsofpcs err, http://shop.hk-anderson.com/p-104-peanut-butter-filled-nuggets.aspx
16:40 BotSteve Title: HK Anderson - Peanut Butter Filled Nuggets
16:45 tonsofpcs Looking at the labels on food products, I've realized more and more allergens being listed in a "CONTAINS:" line.  Pretty soon, they're going to need to list everything that's in the product.
16:46 dbshortwave tonsofpcs
16:46 dbshortwave look into lucas too
16:46 dbshortwave they make a fuel aditive to prolong the fuel parts
16:46 sndwrx In theory, that's what they do with the ingredients list.
16:47 sndwrx And if you have to dump any kind of goop into your engine for any reason, Lucas is the only product to trust.
16:47 sndwrx btw, g'mornin'.  :)
16:48 dbshortwave ive used it in the past hell after i did all that i was getting really good gass mileage with my chevy van
16:48 dbshortwave 25- 30 mpg with my G20 convertion
16:48 sndwrx Holy crap.
16:48 dbshortwave with the 5.7
16:48 dbshortwave TBI
16:48 dbshortwave lol
16:48 sndwrx That's crazy.
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16:49 dbshortwave but before useing lucas i rebuilt the TBI
16:49 Monkeh yNos: Still about?
16:51 tonsofpcs sndwrx: right, which is why I don't get the "contains" line.
16:51 tonsofpcs sndwrx: Lucas?
16:52 sndwrx tonsofpcs: The "contains" line is for the people too dull to understand what is in the ingredients line.  Or, too busy to bother reading through it entirely.
16:53 sndwrx As far as I'm concerned, take the warning labels off everything and let natural selection have its way.
16:53 sndwrx As for the Lucas products, I was agreeing with dbshortwave in something he'd said.
16:54 tonsofpcs right, he said it to me.  I think there's water in my tank
16:54 tonsofpcs like, I know more people with allergic reactions to MSG than Peanuts, but guess what isn't listed in the 'contains' line....
16:54 sndwrx Monosodiumglutamate or whatever?
16:54 tonsofpcs yes
16:54 sndwrx Most peole wouldn't recognize MSG in its full name, anyway.
16:55 tonsofpcs monosodium glutamate
16:55 sndwrx But yeah Lucas products are the only thing worth putting in your engine if you need additives of any sort.
16:55 sndwrx Except with water, then HEET is pretty good.
16:56 sndwrx I think it was HEET?  I can't remember.
16:56 SuperPhosphate most aussies have herad of MGG
16:56 SuperPhosphate MSG
16:56 dbshortwave alot of water seafoam
16:56 tonsofpcs i mean, I have a container of peanut-butter filled pretzels here and on the back, in larger-than-ingreedients letters, it says "CONTAINS: WHEAT, PEANUTS"
16:57 tonsofpcs like, who the (@*%# would expect otherwise?
16:57 sndwrx Despite the fact that wheat is one of the first ingredients listed, and if it's peanut butter filled then it's pretty painfully obvious that it contains peanuts.
16:57 sndwrx So why the necessity to indicate?
16:57 sndwrx Because people are sue-happy.
16:58 wannabe1987 well....i slept great....for like ever :P
16:58 sndwrx Without indicating that on the package, some stupid judge would rule in favor of a distressed mother who nearly fed it to her allergic child, because it didn't obviously state not to.
16:58 tonsofpcs yay for long naps :D
16:58 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: i went to bed at 8:30 and woke up now
16:59 sndwrx mornin' wannabe1987
16:59 wannabe1987 morning
16:59 dbshortwave welcome to Life Wannabe lol
16:59 Cprossu (Uptime) 7wks 1hr 50mins 52secs
16:59 Cprossu *yay*
17:00 wannabe1987 thanks db
17:00 dbshortwave +back
17:00 sndwrx mornin' Cprossu
17:00 Cprossu morning' sndwrx, what's new?
17:01 sndwrx not much i s'pose.
17:01 dbshortwave well
17:02 dbshortwave i need to get mobile here and move some of my crap to the atic
17:02 wannabe1987 so what'd i miss in my lonnnng nap?
17:02 dbshortwave not a whole lot
17:02 dbshortwave oh, we did sacrafice a goat
17:03 dbshortwave :p
17:03 wannabe1987 ...ok
17:06 wannabe1987 hows you, sndwrx?
17:06 * wannabe1987 dreads walking atm
17:06 dbshortwave and getting use to this touch pad is ......FUN
17:18 exor674 as an aside oO
17:18 exor674 my purse is apparently hydrophobic
17:18 wannabe1987 hi dre
17:18 exor674 I spilled a little water on it and it just rolled off
17:18 wannabe1987 nice
17:20 dbshortwave i do love this song
17:21 dbshortwave heh i cant find it
17:21 dbshortwave but its on my machine so i cant share lol
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17:32 wannabe1987 i say i don't want floor length curtains cuz theres a ledge and so she still buys REALLY long curtains :sigh:
17:36 dbshortwave -.-
17:36 wannabe1987 o well
17:36 wannabe1987 when she gets here she'll realize that its wrong :P
17:37 Seroster Yay
17:37 Seroster Repaired my trashcan
17:37 Seroster With...
17:37 Seroster DUCT TAPE! =D
17:37 MoxieMike___ yay duck tape
17:37 Seroster Now it got... Er... 4 layers outside, one inside. =)
17:37 Seroster And even thou it was split down the middle a while back it's still watertight xD
17:39 dbshortwave now i see why someke was coming in when i was using the fireplace
17:39 dbshortwave -.-
17:39 dbshortwave moke*
17:39 dbshortwave DAMNIT
17:39 wannabe1987 lol
17:39 wannabe1987 smoke?
17:39 dbshortwave YEAH
17:40 dbshortwave the damn assholes that put the insulation in plugged the soffit vents
17:41 Seroster lol
17:41 Monkeh dbshortwave: Well then, they've done you a favour
17:42 * tonsofpcs needs to go buy some HEET
17:42 dbshortwave favor how?
17:43 dbshortwave other then i have to go digging in insulation
17:43 Monkeh dbshortwave: Surely if plugging vents is causing smoke to come in, you have smoke leaking into an area it shouldn't be.
17:43 dbshortwave yeah the ridge vent
17:45 dbshortwave and gable vents
17:46 dbshortwave so it pools at the rafters and the attic hatch
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17:48 ovestein Hey people! :-)
17:48 dbshortwave hi
17:48 wannabe1987 hi
17:48 dbshortwave hi
17:48 SparkyProjects Hi :)
17:48 dbshortwave hi
17:48 dbshortwave lol
17:48 Seroster Hello there ovestein
17:49 Seroster Yo dewd SparkyProjects, I got like this kickass thing.
17:49 dbshortwave i know "dork"
17:49 SparkyProjects Did it kick your ass ?
17:49 wannabe1987 lol
17:50 ovestein RS232 to RS422 cable converter?
17:50 Seroster Erm... No?
17:50 wannabe1987 what about it, ovestein?
17:52 SparkyProjects So what did you get Seroster ?
17:52 Seroster Industrial box of yummyness, video will come
17:52 SparkyProjects OK
17:55 Monkeh ovestein: If you're wanting to get them one and don't know where to look, don't worry, soon as yNos gets back I'll be supplying them with several. ;)
17:56 ovestein Monkeh :-)
17:58 sndwrx Lentil soup or chicken and dumplings?
17:59 sndwrx Bearing in mind they're both from a can, and the lentil soup looks pretty bland.
17:59 Monkeh Dumplings
17:59 wannabe1987 what brand are they?
18:00 sndwrx Whatever Aldi tends to carry.
18:01 sndwrx I'd have to get off my lazy tookus to see.
18:01 ovestein found RS232 to RS422 but the are DARN expencive
18:01 dbshortwave hmm
18:02 tonsofpcs ovestein: producerBill had one he was going to test with.
18:02 tonsofpcs depending on the needs of the system, a simple transistor-based level converter *might* work
18:02 ovestein tonsofpcs: NIce! i likei!
18:03 tonsofpcs also, some modern serial ports can be switched between RS232 and RS422/485
18:03 Monkeh ovestein: Nah, cheap ones are available.
18:03 tonsofpcs (the HP workstations we have at work with daughter-board serial and parallel ports can be switched)
18:04 tonsofpcs (and no, that was not part of the purchase spec, it just happens to be like that)
18:04 ovestein tonsofpcs: but this is for video singnal transmition....
18:04 tonsofpcs huh?
18:04 dbshortwave time to get a tree
18:05 Monkeh ovestein: No it's not
18:05 dbshortwave bbiab
18:05 Monkeh ovestein: It's for control signals.
18:05 ovestein servos?
18:05 Monkeh ovestein: Think serial mouse, except over tens of meters.
18:05 Monkeh ovestein: Not that low level
18:05 Monkeh (afaik)
18:05 Electronics I hate this internet
18:05 ovestein Electronics: why=
18:06 wannabe1987 hi Electronics :D
18:14 wannabe1987 awww CaptainNiobe|AFK :(
18:15 CaptainNiobe|AFK sorry, it's bedtime, tired lol
18:15 wannabe1987 awwww ok
18:15 * CaptainNiobe|AFK hugs wannabe1987 goodnight :)
18:16 wannabe1987 night niobe!!!
18:16 Cprossu egrsteve|away: (ooooooh another bluecherry box)
18:16 Electricguy meep meep
18:17 wannabe1987 meep?
18:17 astro73|alice you're a road runner?
18:17 tonsofpcs ?
18:17 Cprossu tonsofpcs: the latest captains blog
18:18 Cprossu yNos: what was that card that came with the last box?
18:20 azop http://store.bluecherry.net/products/Bluecherry-BC%252dGPIO%252dSL-%252d-8-sensor-%28inputs%29-%7B47%7D-4-relay-outputs-digital-GPIO-expansion-board.html
18:20 BotSteve Title: Bluecherry BC-GPIO-SL - 8 sensor (inputs) / 4 relay outputs digital GPIO expansion board - Bluecherry
18:20 Cprossu azop: very cool
18:21 Cprossu I was worried for a moment it'd use another pcie
18:23 wannabe1987 my room echos :(
18:23 Cprossu yay demods going to surplus!
18:24 azop the GPIO isn't supported in our driver yet....but one day.
18:24 Cprossu azop: it might be sooner than you think ;)
18:26 azop we accept pull requests on Github!
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18:27 Cprossu I'll pull what strings that I can. What I can tell you is that it's something we need and we've got hardware and software hackers. Since the board is specced' decently well, we might get that part done.
18:27 Monkeh azop: Only GPIO, can't be that hard.
18:27 Cprossu lol Monkeh never say those words... or "How hard can it be?"
18:27 Monkeh Cprossu: You might know. Is RS422 needed or is 485 sufficient?
18:28 * wannabe1987 starts listening to the messiah :D
18:28 Monkeh Cprossu: I say that all the time.
18:28 Monkeh Cprossu: Along with 'we'll be fine', and 'what can go wrong?'
18:28 Cprossu Monkeh: we already have a rs232 to rs485 adapter
18:28 Monkeh Cprossu: So not needed anymore?
18:28 Cprossu lol I love asking "How can I make it go wrong?"
18:29 Cprossu no, we only have one
18:29 Monkeh Okay, so it's 422 you need specifically?
18:29 * Electricguy just hooked up a Pioneer PD-F905 101 cd disc changer to his stereo
18:29 Cprossu and it's in dev for the saturn control system but we need 422 specifically
18:29 Monkeh Okay, yNos said 422/485, so I thought I'd check :P
18:29 Cprossu technically we need both
18:29 Cprossu for other projects
18:29 Monkeh Okay, well I can donate some of the cost for a 422/485 adapter then
18:29 azop Monkeh: it would be good ir the sensor relayed were exposed uaing sysfs
18:30 azop *relays
18:30 Monkeh azop: I would consider it fairly unacceptable if they weren't. ;)
18:30 Monkeh If it's a device and I can't play with it in sysfs, something's gone very wrong. ;)
18:30 Cprossu funny thing is the MPK control on the saturn (seperate from the security system) is 422 one way and 485 the other way, the difference being the way the signal is propagated and what gets attention vs a distributed arch.
18:30 azop +1
18:31 Monkeh Cprossu: Ahh, over complexity.
18:31 azop bbl
18:31 Cprossu it makes sense why too Monkeh
18:32 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, probably does, it also makes things fun. :)
18:32 Cprossu all the panels attached to saturn need to have the most updated switching information right?
18:32 Cprossu yet only one control panel at a time needs to be locked into the router
18:32 Monkeh Cprossu: Here's a really good one. Does it have to be an RS232 adapter or is USB fudging acceptable?
18:32 Cprossu USB fudging is always a pain in the ass in linux but we'll accept it
18:32 Monkeh Cprossu: Never had a problem myself.
18:33 Cprossu you also haven't dealt with really fickle 7 bit ascii code systems with strange flow control
18:33 Monkeh Cprossu: I use Prolific adapters for RS232 without issue (you just use ttyUSB rather than ttyS)
18:33 Cprossu or have you? xD
18:34 Monkeh Cprossu: Actually, no, I've not had that pleasure.
18:34 Monkeh Cprossu: Normally what I deal with is fairly plain.
18:34 Monkeh I dislike hardware which uses backwards hacks. ;)
18:34 Cprossu lol. I don't blame you
18:35 Cprossu you'd hate working on 99% of the television station equipment that was ever made. tonsofpcs can verify that heh.
18:35 Monkeh Cprossu: I also am told FTDI stuff is very good, and from what I can see, most proper RS422 adapters used FTDI chips.
18:35 Monkeh Cprossu: Hence why I never got into that business. ;)
18:36 Monkeh Cprossu: Hmm. I know where to get a really nice 232/422/485 adapter, but it's fairly pricy and the wrong side of an ocean. :{
18:37 Monkeh Cprossu: http://www.easysync-ltd.com/product/542/es-u-3001-m-.html
18:37 BotSteve Title: USB to RS232/ RS422 / RS485
18:38 Monkeh Cprossu: Alternatively, and this is a pricy one: http://www.easysync-ltd.com/product/593/es-u-3016-rm.html
18:38 BotSteve Title: ES-U-3016-RM
18:38 Cprossu I think I've sent you this already
18:38 Cprossu Monkeh: http://www.evertz.com/resources/7707DT-mpk.pdf
18:38 Monkeh Something tells me there would be much joy if one of those arrived in the rack.
18:38 Cprossu Monkeh: indeed it would
18:38 Cprossu that's a hell of a little unit
18:38 Monkeh Cprossu: You have not.
18:39 Monkeh Cprossu: 'little'. :)
18:39 Cprossu as in awesome lol
18:39 Monkeh Cprossu: The little one port one is nice, though. If I could afford it I'd have one myself.
18:39 Cprossu I bet
18:39 Monkeh Love that they're actually mountable
18:39 Monkeh Unlike cheap moulded plasticrap
18:39 Cprossu but yeah Monkeh isn't that crazy shit that they did there?
18:40 Monkeh Cprossu: Will read it later
18:40 Cprossu it's just a MPK bus primer
18:40 Cprossu for the saturn/jupiter router control
18:41 Cprossu made for another device but it serves the purpose of explaining the mess
18:43 Monkeh Cprossu: Would this make happy? http://www.amazon.com/RS485-Industrial-Isolated-Terminal-Output/dp/B005CPOW5M/ref=sr_1_86?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1322935653&amp;sr=8-86
18:43 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: FTDI Chip USB to RS485 / RS422 Industrial Isolated with DB-9/RJ45/Terminal Screw Output: Electronics
18:44 Cprossu how come they keep showing that paticular chip yet you can't see it mounted on the board?
18:44 Cprossu is it underneath?
18:45 Cprossu or is it just zoomed in way
18:45 Cprossu hard
18:45 Monkeh Cprossu: Probably on the other side of the board
18:45 Monkeh Cprossu: There are certainly no packages that large on the visible side
18:45 sndwrx Good choice on the chicken 'n' dumplings.
18:45 Monkeh Cprossu: Any idea how I'd make Google search US shopping sites? They helpfully don't give you any such option.
18:46 sndwrx Now I have a big fat cat curled up on my lap.
18:46 Cprossu interesting: http://www.amazon.com/RS485-RS422-Converter-Screw-Terminals/dp/B005CPI0JQ/ref=sr_1_25?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1322937958&amp;sr=1-25
18:46 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Mini USB to RS485 / RS422 Converter FTDI CHIP with Screw Terminals: Electronics
18:46 Monkeh Cprossu: Neat.
18:47 Monkeh Cprossu: I'd worry about stress on the USB socket though, not to mention management.
18:47 Monkeh Could always take it out of the case and bolt it down somewhere with a cable
18:47 Cprossu it's called using a usb extension or usb headers
18:47 Cprossu both of which we've got
18:48 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah, but you've still got the problem of the things basically floating around
18:48 Monkeh It's tacky. :P
18:48 Cprossu for 2x for the same price it's worth it
18:48 Monkeh That's why I'm looking at ones which can be secured
18:48 Cprossu and we can put them in a metal box with a usb hub if we want to make it look nice
18:48 Monkeh But I can't use Google to search because they're retarded.
18:49 Monkeh There we go
18:50 Cprossu booo http://www.amazon.com/Ftdi-Manufacturer-FTDI-USB-COM485-Plus4/dp/B005T91QYG/ref=sr_1_cc_2?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1322938136&amp;sr=1-2-catcorr
18:50 Cprossu really cool looking though
18:50 Monkeh Oh man, that'd be perfect
18:51 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Ftdi Manufacturer: FTDI USB-COM485-Plus4: Electronics
18:51 Monkeh ...
18:51 Cprossu http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?SKU=76R0541&amp;CMP=AFC-GB100000001
18:51 Monkeh Cprossu: Would a PCI slot be available?
18:51 BotSteve Title: FTDI|USB-COM485-PLUS-4|MODULE, DEV, USB-RS485, 4 COM | Newark.com
18:52 * Cprossu looks at the pdf to see if it will do rs422
18:52 Cprossu if not there's a FTDI USB-COM422-PLUS4
18:53 Monkeh Cprossu: Because, y'know, I can get you a 4 port 422/485 PCI card for under 25 bucks.
18:53 Cprossu yikes.
18:53 Cprossu http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/FTDI/USB-COM422-PLUS4/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMu3sxpa5v1qrkxV%2FQZa4WftYjC4H88yPVg%3D
18:53 BotSteve Title: USB-COM422-PLUS4 FTDI Interface Modules & Development Tools
18:53 Cprossu then that would probably be something we'd love to have Monkeh
18:53 * wannabe1987 is hungry...i should probably eat....
18:53 Monkeh Cprossu: Or at least I can get you most of it.
18:53 KernelTrap got some chimay grande reserve
18:53 Cprossu Monkeh: DIY?
18:54 mashpriborintorg somebody wanan see what Lis is doing onto the cnc mill ? http://instagr.am/p/XJM2R/
18:54 BotSteve Title: Instagram
18:54 Monkeh Cprossu: No, I'm just short on cash.
18:54 Cprossu oooh lol
18:54 Cprossu ok
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18:54 Cprossu hrmmm
18:54 Cprossu http://www.amazon.com/Crest-SY-PCI15016-SystemBase-SB16C1054PCI0945-Chipset/dp/B003M8I0S6/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1322938448&amp;sr=1-6
18:54 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: I/O Crest SY-PCI15016 PCI RS422/485 4-Port Serial Card, SystemBase SB16C1054PCI0945 Chipset: Electronics
18:54 sndwrx mashpriborintorg: Wow that's awesome.
18:54 Monkeh Cprossu: Same card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124094&amp;nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&amp;cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-Add-On+Cards-_-Syba-_-15124094
18:54 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - SYBA Add-On Card Model SY-PCI15016
18:55 mashpriborintorg yeah she's getting better and better
18:55 Cprossu fucking $7 shipping
18:55 * KB3NZQ is gonna have fun today bringing in 2000LB of drywall
18:55 Cprossu I wish there was a way we could split up payment on newegg
18:55 Monkeh Cprossu: Still cheaper
18:55 masterofmonks How does one go about finding an industrial salvage yard?
18:56 Cprossu masterofmonks: look in phonebook under 'industrial salvage'
18:56 Cprossu (or use teh google)
18:56 Monkeh Cprossu: We can just donate with links and let Chris order it :P
18:56 masterofmonks None in my local phone book.
18:56 Cprossu Monkeh : that requires work and clicking at their end
18:56 masterofmonks There are two recyclers, but no slavage yards.
18:56 Monkeh Cprossu: They'll live
18:57 Cprossu it'll ruin the surprise!
18:57 Cprossu lol
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18:57 Cprossu ROFL
18:57 Monkeh masterofmonks: Nice typo.
18:59 masterofmonks Monkeh: also in regards to cyanogenmod, I refuse to install anythign that will break the basic functionality of my phone just because "it's better" in some intangible way.
18:59 sndwrx How does CM break basic functionality?
18:59 Monkeh masterofmonks: I wasn't aware it would break the functionality of your phone.
18:59 Monkeh masterofmonks: Only that it was available.
18:59 masterofmonks sndwrx: microphone has no drivers for example.
18:59 sndwrx Is CM not fully supported on your device?
18:59 sndwrx haha.
18:59 sndwrx Nice.
18:59 Monkeh masterofmonks: That's.. impressive.
18:59 Monkeh masterofmonks: Okay, so I won't be buying LG phones. Ever.
19:00 masterofmonks Oh, it's fully supported for the Optimus 2x
19:00 sndwrx "lol guize we got wifi, 4g, accelerometer, proximity sensor and compass working... but microphone doesn't"
19:00 wannabe1987 lol
19:00 sndwrx LG still hasn't figured out how to make a decent phone, as far as I'm concerned.
19:01 Monkeh If I buy a phone running Android I expect at least the basic phone functions to work without requiring proprietary crap which is unusable.
19:01 Cprossu sndwrx: my VX7000 was a tank.
19:01 sndwrx They should stick to refrigerators.
19:01 masterofmonks sndwrx: my optimus V is nice.
19:01 sndwrx Nice as compared to... ?
19:01 masterofmonks It works perfectly well, and is fast enough for everythign I do.
19:01 sndwrx The Optimus series are very low-end phones.
19:02 Cprossu I've got way more complaints about Ericson/Sony not being able to make a godamn phone.
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19:02 sndwrx They have some nice handsets, but it's hit or miss.
19:02 Cprossu the old ericson's were shite.
19:03 Cprossu I had so many defectives it was insane.
19:03 sndwrx Maybe it's your magnetic personality.
19:03 sndwrx buh-dum-tiss
19:05 Monkeh Cprossu: Except for the price I'd prefer a USB adapter, looking at these PCI ones.
19:05 Monkeh Cprossu: Legacy annoying chips..
19:06 Monkeh Cprossu: Anyway, if you want to order that one off Newegg (or Amazon) I'll feed you $15 towards it
19:09 Cprossu I'm thinking. Glad I got the uatx boards instead of the itx boards for those mobos I brought over there though
19:10 Cprossu we've got the big pcie slot left and 2 pci's
19:10 Cprossu so hrmm
19:10 Cprossu Monkeh: I got a better idea. let me check my bank acct
19:10 Monkeh Cprossu: Can you actually use the x16 slot on it?
19:10 Cprossu yeah of course you can
19:11 Cprossu I think it might only be 8x electrically
19:11 Cprossu but that's fine for anything
19:11 Monkeh Cprossu: Just asking. All too many boards won't let you because the lanes are shared with onboard video.
19:11 Cprossu this board is a bit weird that way
19:11 Cprossu so it allows it
19:11 Monkeh Even those which aren't, BIOS bugs tend to crop up.
19:11 Cprossu it also allows the onboard to run with an external graphics
19:12 Monkeh Seen a fair few boards which will not boot with anything but a GPU or a PCI-E bridge on that port
19:12 Cprossu well all I know is that the bluecherry card, and the blackmagic intensity pro board all at least play ball with the 1x slot on them
19:12 Cprossu so that's a good thing
19:12 Monkeh Yeah
19:13 Cprossu and it makes one hell of a HTPC too
19:13 Cprossu (This means I am running 3 of these boards in differing positions all not related to desktop use hahah)
19:15 Cprossu Monkeh: http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_CPU_on_Board/E35M1M_PRO/ <- Current Stream PC, Current Securitycam PC, and My Current HTPC)
19:15 BotSteve Title: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards- ASUS E35M1-M PRO
19:16 Cprossu ^ also for azop's information.
19:17 Cprossu speaking of which yNos will need a serial header
19:17 Cprossu if he wants the rs232
19:17 Cprossu so perhaps a pci card is best
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19:26 wannabe1987 hi Druidic_Rifleman!
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19:28 Monkeh Cprossu: If you want to order it for them, just gimme paypal details
19:28 wannabe1987 its kate!
19:28 Katemonster that it is.
19:29 wannabe1987 hows kate?
19:32 Katemonster kate is at school doing work on a saturday.
19:32 Cprossu Monkeh: what I am thinking is buy something else that's also useful with your money Monkeh|Lap
19:32 Cprossu * Monkeh
19:32 Cprossu and I'll cover the card
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19:36 Cprossu too bad newegg doesn't do giftwrapping Monkeh
19:36 wannabe1987 aw don;t leave
19:37 wannabe1987 kate, why are you doing work on saturday?!
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19:38 Monkeh Cprossu: If there's something they're after.
19:39 dbshortwave mmm pine
19:40 wannabe1987 hi
19:40 dbshortwave hi
19:41 dbshortwave mm
19:41 dbshortwave i'll post pics soon
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19:43 Cprossu Monkeh: Card is on it's way.
19:43 wannabe1987 o?
19:44 dbshortwave o
19:44 wannabe1987 there.  male housemate carried the heavy item in and downstairs for me.
19:44 Cprossu now let me find something they need
19:44 wannabe1987 did you know its raining?
19:45 y007ghg7 joined #thegeekgroup
19:45 sndwrx Think it's been raining most of the day.
19:46 wannabe1987 i slept till 12, i wouldn't know :P
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19:49 Katemonster wannabe1987, i'm trying to get my engineering graphics project finished
19:49 wannabe1987 ahhhh
19:49 sndwrx Weechat is very colorful compared to irssi.
19:55 wannabe1987 well, i think its a good thing the umbrella is inside (i think) vs being in the car
20:05 Katemonster this is my final project: http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/3022/vicet.png
20:05 angy Kate! Lovely Kate!
20:07 Druidic_Rifleman Awsoe kate
20:08 Druidic_Rifleman what program did you use
20:08 Druidic_Rifleman Awesome
20:09 Cprossu egrsteve|away : boo!
20:11 wannabe1987 kate thats cool
20:20 Druidic_Rifleman LOL the current bukkit is 1337 LOL
20:21 Cprossu indeed it is.
20:21 Cprossu I actually put up a 'legit' mc server for my buddies (as in very little cheating)
20:23 Katemonster hi angy
20:23 Katemonster and thanks
20:25 Druidic_Rifleman More playing wuith auto cad
20:26 Katemonster yeah autocad
20:27 Druidic_Rifleman I Am learning it to Redo some work i did with emachineshop
20:27 Monkeh Cprossu: Found anything?
20:27 Cprossu I'm considering calling up yNos or egrsteve|away
20:28 Monkeh I could go buy baluns.
20:28 Cprossu I'm sure there's something they need in that price range really bad.
20:28 Cprossu yeah but I think they'll have the baluns covered
20:31 Monkeh Cprossu: Well they've been whining about them for ages
20:32 Cprossu still are
20:32 Cprossu egrsteve|away confirms baluns it is
20:32 Monkeh Trouble is they take weeks to arrive from dealextreme
20:32 Cprossu that'll be fine I think
20:32 Monkeh Time to find a reasonably priced US retailer
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20:35 sndwrx Or see if you can find baluns available through a US dealextreme warehouse?
20:36 Druidic_Rifleman Ok soooo Auto cad very epic in capability... very complicated in use
20:36 injektion I haven't been emailed back about the RS/6000 yet despite the email being sent yesterday
20:37 Cprossu Druidic_Rifleman: nah autocad is easy
20:37 Cprossu especially when you disable the stupid ribbon interfaces in the new version and go for command line
20:37 injektion I hated using AutoCAD
20:37 injektion I prefer inventor instead
20:38 Druidic_Rifleman Yeah With emachineship i'd have the part done designed by now
20:38 Cprossu OOOH
20:38 Cprossu I wonder how much the batteries are for the new captains blog camera
20:38 injektion Inventor was a lot easier than autocad
20:39 Cprossu Canon NB-9L it seems
20:41 Monkeh Cprossu: Proprietary batteries.
20:41 Monkeh Cprossu: The answer is: Stupidly fucking expensive.
20:41 Cprossu unless you go for the cheapo exploders Monkeh
20:41 Cprossu http://www.amazon.com/ClearMax-Replacement-Batteries-European-Powershot/dp/B004GI6PCY/ref=sr_1_8?s=electronics&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1322944824&amp;sr=1-8
20:41 Monkeh Cprossu: Yes but we like Chris.
20:41 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: ClearMax NB9L NB-9L Lithium Ion Replacement Batteries (2-Pack) + Wall Charger + Car Adapter + European Plug Adapter for Canon Powershot SD4500IS / SD4500 Digital Camera: Electronics
20:41 Monkeh Cprossu: We want him to have hands.
20:41 Cprossu true dat.
20:41 Monkeh Cprossu: Now if we can just get Cory to handle the camera..
20:41 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, check dealextreme, they have a lot of camera batteries now
20:42 Sgt_Lemming not the quickest shipping, but probably cheaper
20:42 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: I'd be surprised if it's cheaper than that
20:42 Monkeh Is anyone overly bothered if Cory loses a hand?
20:42 Cprossu Monkeh: no
20:42 Sgt_Lemming oh, that is pretty cheap
20:42 Monkeh Thought not.
20:42 Sgt_Lemming that's a euro plug though
20:42 Cprossu cory might grumble but you can then tell him he's uber cool because his stub looks like a minecraft hand Monkeh
20:42 Sgt_Lemming oh, just an adaptor
20:42 Sgt_Lemming nm
20:42 * Sgt_Lemming goes back to grumbling at stupid members
20:46 injektion I hate buying Unix workstations off of CL because the seller takes fucking forever
20:50 injektion I'd like to start signing those e-mails with SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY
20:54 masterofmonks CL?
20:54 injektion craigslist
20:54 Druidic_Rifleman a problem i am having is all my old scketches we're on D drive
20:55 injektion The people that sell Unix workstations on craigslist are worse than the BMW enthusiast that sell BMW's cult cars
20:56 injektion At least the BMW enthusiasts have some drive to take my money...
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21:00 Druidic_Rifleman Monkeh chriss has Ran up to cory and started punching him shouting HATECRIME!!!! and no one at the lab did any thing
21:02 Cprossu Druidic_Rifleman that's not true!
21:02 Druidic_Rifleman ...
21:02 Cprossu (after all they laughed)
21:02 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
21:04 Druidic_Rifleman I am concerned if i can get the old Files for emachine shop that i might of done the designs In iperial
21:04 Druidic_Rifleman thats One thing i liked it was easy to switch from metric to imperial
21:06 Monkeh Druidic_Rifleman: I'm aware
21:07 Druidic_Rifleman "hey Corey reach down and grab the Camera off this moving train before we jump off "
21:07 Druidic_Rifleman the one by the wheel
21:18 Druidic_Rifleman i am supprised Corey hasn't filed a lawsuit for chriss creating a hostile work enviroment
21:20 mashpriborintorg yeah poor Corey... the other guy, Steven, gets harassed quite often too
21:21 mashpriborintorg the only survivor is Liz
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21:25 wannabe1987 lwq1996!
21:26 lwq1996 hi
21:26 lwq1996 no deer :(
21:26 lwq1996 only spent 4hours in the woods
21:27 wannabe1987 awwww'
21:27 lwq1996 i can tell you though it was cold today
21:27 lwq1996 my dad needs to get the brake line off of his truck so thats why we came back so early
21:27 lwq1996 he only has font breaks
21:27 * wannabe1987 needs to get ready for tonight (in a bit)
21:30 dbshortwave wow
21:30 dbshortwave http://ludens.cl/Electron/chinverter/chinverter.html
21:30 BotSteve Title: The Power Jack 3500 Watt inverter - buyers beware!
21:35 wannabe1987 hi BotSteve
21:35 BotSteve Greetings wannabe1987!
21:37 sndwrx .c 208km to miles
21:37 BotSteve 129.245208 miles
21:46 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
21:46 wannabe-afk i wish facebook still had teh "friends" feature where you could search someones friends :GRRRR:
21:46 Toastdude Wannabe!
21:46 wannabe-afk what
21:46 wannabe-afk hi
21:48 wannabe-afk see, i was told he's not driving the charger anymore *gasp* but his sister (who is like 11) doesn't know what he's driving..........
21:48 lwq1996 lol
21:48 wannabe-afk o i found it on his moms' page (the friends thing)
21:49 wannabe-afk :sigh:  facebook only does so much
21:49 wannabe-afk i wish some people didn't understand facebook security settings sometimes! :P
21:49 Toastdude lol
21:50 wannabe-afk but i must shower now...i'll stalk later :P
21:50 Toastdude Bye wannabe :P
21:50 lwq1996 you will stalk later?
21:50 * Toastdude had a cool dream....
21:51 wannabe-afk but first i must find some clothes that'll work...
21:51 lwq1996 yup a wet dream :D
21:51 Toastdude I'm going to re-create it in Blender and Gimp
21:51 Toastdude No, Lee
21:51 wannabe-afk unless, lee, he's friends with you still....
21:51 lwq1996 tj?
21:51 Toastdude A comsically cool dream :P
21:52 lwq1996 drew is my friend on fb still
21:54 Monkeh Cprossu: Well, ordered three pairs of baluns, they'll arrive.. sometime.
21:57 killakee joined #thegeekgroup
21:58 wannabe-afk anyone see my sweater?  i'm totally NOT unpacked (clearly) and can't find my sweater.............
21:58 Toastdude I saw it!
21:59 lwq1996 creep <.>
21:59 lwq1996 >.>
21:59 lwq1996 OMG I MAKE GECO (<.>)=====----
22:00 wannabe-afk where?
22:00 lwq1996 well i just failed at making a geco
22:02 wannabe-afk geico?
22:03 Toastdude The Geico Gecko?
22:03 lwq1996 gecko
22:03 Toastdude Hey, TGG :P
22:03 lwq1996 lol
22:10 wannabe-afk i found it!  my outfit is saved!
22:10 lwq1996 YAY
22:11 Toastdude Yay
22:11 wannabe-afk mhm
22:13 lwq1996 hmmm, should i become a man whore :P
22:13 lwq1996 they make good money
22:13 sndwrx You're 15.  Reconsider that statement.
22:13 lwq1996 lol
22:16 Toastdude lol
22:16 wannabe-afk wait...did you have a birthday?
22:16 lwq1996 no
22:16 wannabe-afk o ok
22:16 lwq1996 its coming up though :P
22:17 wannabe-afk so really, you're still 14 :P
22:17 lwq1996 hey im younger than you, that means your old
22:18 lwq1996 :P
22:18 wannabe-afk and sndwrx is older than i am, so that makes him ancient.  and sparky is 56, what does that make him?
22:18 lwq1996 dinosaur
22:18 dbshortwave dirt
22:18 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, you about?
22:18 Toastdude Hydrogen.
22:18 SparkyProjects yep
22:18 Toastdude :P
22:19 lwq1996 lol
22:19 lwq1996 sparky your a dinosaur right?
22:19 sndwrx Someone highlight my name again, please.
22:19 wannabe-afk sndwrx
22:19 sndwrx Ah, neat.
22:19 Sgt_Lemming If I rectify 415VAC three phase with a full bridge rectifier (6 diodes) I should get about 580VDC correct?
22:19 sndwrx Thanks.
22:19 SparkyProjects No, i'm an Ancient Geek :P
22:19 wannabe-afk whats it do?
22:19 wannabe-afk lol
22:20 * lwq1996 knows nothing about 3phase so idk
22:20 wannabe-afk mine turns this blue/green color
22:20 wannabe-afk when my room is more "done" i'll get photos.....
22:21 SparkyProjects Sgt_Lemming: in theory yes, with cap
22:21 dbshortwave i know 3 phaze ...
22:21 wannabe-afk pew pew pew?
22:21 Sgt_Lemming any lines I write are red, lines with the word "lemming" in them are orange, and everyone else is bleck
22:21 dbshortwave i know it Hz when you touch a leg
22:22 lwq1996 this is what i need to get tgg http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_2111847_-1
22:22 BotSteve Title: 32365: PARALLAX INC.: Computer Products
22:22 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects
22:22 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/HighVoltage?authkey=Gv1sRgCPrB2cGQnNzJ1QE#5678906252391031890
22:22 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming Dixon - High Voltage
22:22 dbshortwave no one got my dry joke there
22:22 dbshortwave -.-
22:23 lwq1996 lol
22:23 Sgt_Lemming also, we just got a laser, from the dumpster as well :-P
22:23 dbshortwave and IM the dork ...
22:23 SparkyProjects dbshortwave: that was a shocking joke :P
22:23 Sgt_Lemming but I need a 250VDC at 30A to drive it :-P
22:23 * lwq1996 facepalm
22:23 dbshortwave lol
22:24 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, if ohmly he would resist making jokes of that capacity
22:24 dbshortwave LOL
22:24 SparkyProjects ohmygod :P
22:24 * lwq1996 leaves for a bit till the jokes die
22:24 Sgt_Lemming http://quotes.ugbox.net/viewquote.php?id=3612
22:24 BotSteve Title: UGBox V2 - Quotes
22:24 dbshortwave it hz to think right now ..
22:25 * wannabe-afk has to go shower now.....bye!
22:25 dbshortwave k
22:25 SparkyProjects dbshortwave: you're grounded :P
22:25 wannabe-afk now that, you know, i've found all my stuff :P
22:25 dbshortwave enjoy
22:25 lwq1996 wannabe stinks like poo
22:25 wannabe-afk considering i'm not full of electricity, i *will* enjoy my shower
22:25 lwq1996 lol
22:25 wannabe-afk lwq1996 rolled in poo like a dog
22:26 dbshortwave hey wannabe-afk you didnt have to look to far ... your stuff is always with you lol
22:26 lwq1996 o.o
22:26 dbshortwave x.x
22:26 dbshortwave LOL
22:26 wannabe-afk *realization*  *counts hours*  *decides to wait an hour before taking pill*
22:27 lwq1996 pill?
22:27 dbshortwave happy pill
22:27 lwq1996 wannabe on 'the pill'
22:27 dbshortwave to keep from killing us all
22:27 dbshortwave heh
22:27 lwq1996 ok i need to stop with the dirty feminem jokes
22:28 dbshortwave yeah
22:28 dbshortwave cause you would  be the first to die
22:28 dbshortwave lol
22:30 lwq1996 OMG I WANT AN ORANGE ONE http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10001_10001_2135005_-1
22:30 BotSteve Title: A000033: ARDUINO: Education & Hobby
22:31 sndwrx "feminem jokes"?  Is that, like, female Eminem?
22:31 lwq1996 FEMALE JOKES
22:34 Toastdude lol
22:34 dbshortwave ICP did a bunch of Eminem jokes
22:34 * sndwrx grimaces.
22:38 sndwrx kitty cat paw resting on laptop touchpad screws with multitouch.
22:38 dbshortwave ohhhhyeah
22:38 dbshortwave lol
22:39 dbshortwave rate my fart
22:39 * dbshortwave wafts it to lee
22:39 dbshortwave hows that one ?
22:39 * dbshortwave snickers
22:39 * lwq1996 punches dbshortwave out and take his liver and kidneys
22:40 dbshortwave lol
22:40 lwq1996 i like to eat them
22:40 dbshortwave my liver is more then likely not heathy
22:40 y007ghg7 joined #thegeekgroup
22:41 lwq1996 so beer liver is always good :D
22:41 dbshortwave rofl
22:47 chunks joined #thegeekgroup
22:47 lwq1996 hi chunks
22:50 dbshortwave TRUFFLE SHUFFLE!
22:50 dbshortwave lol
22:50 lwq1996 WHAT?
22:50 dbshortwave XD
22:50 dbshortwave rent the movie 'the goonies'
22:51 lwq1996 lol i love that movie XD
22:51 lwq1996 wow digikey catalog taking 8min to download on a fast connection 0.o
22:51 lwq1996 must be a big catalog
22:53 chunks Hi
22:54 dbshortwave hi
22:54 lwq1996 you new to the geek group irc?
22:54 chunks who me?
22:54 lwq1996 yes
22:54 lwq1996 i dont remember you thats why im asking
22:54 chunks i've been here before
22:55 lwq1996 ok wasnt sure thats why i asked
22:55 chunks i haven't been coming here a lot though
22:57 y007ghg7- joined #thegeekgroup
22:58 dbshortwave and dont mind me lol im a wise ass
22:58 dbshortwave ;D
22:58 lwq1996 yup
22:58 lwq1996 and hes a registered sex offender :D
22:58 wannabe-afk back
22:58 dbshortwave dont mind him ... he gets molested daily
22:59 dbshortwave welcome back
22:59 * masterofmonks starts giving people the eye.
22:59 lwq1996 :D
22:59 wannabe-afk lwq1996, dbshortwave, no my ritalin, so i don't fidget the ENTIRE concert tonight...it bothers some people....
22:59 * dbshortwave laughs at the look
22:59 lwq1996 lol
23:00 dbshortwave Hi masterofmonks
23:00 dbshortwave XD
23:00 wannabe-afk hi mom.....
23:00 wannabe1987 sndwrx: what kind of kitty?
23:01 sndwrx Half-Siamese, half-Calico stray.
23:01 wannabe1987 photo?
23:01 sndwrx Wait, maybe not calico.  Can't think of what they look like.  She looks almost more tortoise shell.
23:02 wannabe1987 calicos have ( i think) multi clored patches
23:02 wannabe1987 and i cant spell
23:02 sndwrx Right.  Tortoise shell do also, but more splotchy and different.
23:02 wannabe1987 :sigh:  all this food looks good but i don't have stuff to make it with.....and i don't have my pizza stone, thats still in GR.
23:03 wannabe1987 stuff = baking ware
23:03 wannabe1987 i have ingredients
23:03 wannabe1987 well, some
23:03 wannabe1987 *makes note to call lady from DHS back*
23:04 masterofmonks Department of Homeland Security?
23:04 wannabe1987 dept of human resources
23:04 wannabe1987 or something
23:04 wannabe1987 i dunno
23:04 wannabe1987 they give me my food money
23:04 wannabe1987 so i can buy milke
23:04 wannabe1987 and cheese
23:04 wannabe1987 and flour
23:05 wannabe1987 and chicken
23:05 wannabe1987 :nods:
23:05 lwq1996 me waits for wannabe ridlin to kick in
23:05 wannabe1987 i'm taking it at 6:30, 1/2 hour before i leave
23:05 wannabe1987 good luck lee
23:05 wannabe1987 Ritalin*
23:05 lwq1996 damn
23:06 lwq1996 you are spaming badly
23:06 wannabe1987 i'm
23:06 wannabe1987 hitting
23:06 wannabe1987 enter
23:06 wannabe1987 too m
23:06 wannabe1987 much
23:06 wannabe1987 :P
23:06 lwq1996 http://www.walmart.com/ip/Gerber-Diesel-Multi-Plier/16523845
23:06 lwq1996 i want
23:06 BotSteve Title: Walmart.com: Gerber Diesel Multi-Plier: Hunting
23:06 wannabe1987 i'll stop
23:06 lwq1996 i put that on my christmas wish list
23:09 sndwrx I need to shave and stuff.  Suppose I should start getting ready.
23:09 sndwrx Don't think a peanut butter sandwich will tide me over long enough but nothing else sounds good.
23:11 wannabe1987 i'll have (another) bowl of soup, but the same...it won't hold me over
23:11 wannabe1987 i don't have bread, only pb and nutella :P
23:12 sndwrx I don't remember how long ago I had a bowl of soup, but it must not have had any nutritional value at all.
23:13 wannabe1987 i remember you asking about which one to have...
23:13 wannabe1987 i'm currently eating mini marshmallows
23:15 dbshortwave i need to make a RS232 to an RS485 adapter
23:16 dbshortwave an its not a hard one to make
23:16 dbshortwave just flip RX and TX on one DB9
23:16 sndwrx Time to get ready.
23:16 dbshortwave k
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23:17 wannabe1987 ok
23:17 dbshortwave ok?
23:18 wannabe1987 to sndwrx :P
23:18 dbshortwave i knew that
23:18 wannabe1987 ok
23:20 wannabe1987 i dislike housemates who don't know how to wash sliverware so it gets CLEAN
23:21 lwq1996 hahahaha
23:29 Druidic_Rifleman hehe
23:33 wannabe1987 my hair wont behave .......
23:33 Electricguy nightynight all! :)
23:33 wannabe1987 night
23:38 Monkeh Who would I prod regarding the donation form on the website not being savable after editing, thus making it impossible to email it in?
23:38 wannabe1987 huh?
23:40 Monkeh You can't save changes to the form. Which is fairly crap.
23:40 ajprog_laptop Monkeh post a reply to http://thegeekgroup.org/forums/topic/evolution-of-the-geek-website/
23:40 BotSteve Title: Topic: Evolution of the Geek Website | The Geek Group
23:40 Monkeh Although I believe I forgot about the lovable workaround with PDFs of PRINTING IT AS A PDF. Which is just retarded and backwards. Let's see if it lets me.
23:41 Monkeh Really should use a better format anyway
23:41 Monkeh Despite the name, PDF is anything but portable.
23:41 Cprossu well it's slightly more portable than postscript at least
23:42 Monkeh Cprossu: Postscript works the same way everywhere.
23:42 wannabe1987 print it, scan it, and email it?
23:42 Monkeh Cprossu: PDF doesn't work on Windows, let alone other platforms.
23:42 Monkeh wannabe1987: ... No, and I may come stab you for that.
23:42 wannabe1987 why?
23:42 wannabe1987 i won't be home...sorry
23:43 wannabe1987 don't stab the ignorant
23:43 Monkeh wannabe1987: by the time I've gone through scanning it and emailing it I may as well just post the damn thing
23:43 Monkeh It'd arrive before the donation anyway!
23:43 wannabe1987 lol ok
23:45 Monkeh Oh, wow, and the form doesn't even work properly
23:49 * wannabe1987 needs to be out the door in 10 minutes. *right*
23:49 Monkeh wannabe1987: Left.
23:49 wannabe1987 i didn't even get to eat dinner.....
23:49 wannabe1987 left = my room, right = the door.
23:49 wannabe1987 i guess i can do left :P
23:49 Monkeh wannabe1987: Just turn left three times.
23:52 wannabe1987 i am NOT crawling out my window
23:53 * Monkeh sets a fire in the doorway
23:53 Monkeh wannabe1987: Oh yes you are.
23:53 wannabe1987 i'm not in my room :P
23:54 wannabe1987 my computer is in the kitchen :P
23:54 wannabe1987 and i'm fireproof
23:54 wannabe1987 not resistant, fireproof
23:54 Monkeh Want to put that to the test?
23:55 wannabe1987 not now, i have a show to get to
23:56 wannabe1987 maybe later :P
23:59 wannabe1987 wouldn't want to disappoint and come to the show all charred :P
23:59 wannabe-afk bye!
23:59 dbshortwave have fun

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