Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-04

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00:00 wannabe-afk o i will.  i've been listening to the messiah all day :D
00:00 dbshortwave heh
00:00 dbshortwave ^.^
00:00 wannabe-afk :D
00:00 wannabe-afk cya'll
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00:14 Seroster Damn software updates
00:15 lwq1996 lol
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00:39 lwq1996 hia kate
00:57 NeWtoz .bug IS THIS BUGGING YOU?!?
00:57 BotSteve To report website bugs, email:  helpdesk at thegeekgroup dot org
00:57 NeWtoz drats
01:00 tonsofpcs isn't U2 still playing?...gh
01:00 tonsofpcs *ugh
01:01 tonsofpcs i think i found the electrical problem with the light/switch..
01:01 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: You weren't switching it on?
01:01 tonsofpcs does using a wirenut on solid wire meet code?
01:02 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Far as I'm aware. Not a good idea, but that doesn't seem to matter.
01:02 Monkeh|Lap They're no good for any type of wire imo
01:02 tonsofpcs monkeh - i rent, that's the real problem
01:03 tonsofpcs with stranded, youy can twist together, put a wire nut on, then tape it all tight (not that i would do this in a permanent install if i had an option but...
01:04 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: So with stranded you can either wreck the conductors or bodge, and with solid you just wreck the conductors.. ;)
01:04 tonsofpcs at least the cords are held to the ox properly for strain relief
01:04 tonsofpcs x!
01:04 tonsofpcs and one of the two switches is tied to the ground in the box!
01:04 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Photo?
01:05 tonsofpcs also, i need a new cellphone, this one keeps hitting arrows
01:05 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: No, that's your fingers.
01:05 tonsofpcs not easy to get now
01:05 tonsofpcs no, it isnt, its gravity, relief spring misaligned
01:06 Monkeh|Lap Oh, one of those.
01:06 * Monkeh|Lap abandoned them
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01:26 Cprossu .tfw 85021
01:26 BotSteve 49°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Where life is mediocre'
01:27 y007ghg7 .tfw 74965
01:27 BotSteve 55°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Westville, OK!  'Everything's nice butter weather!'
01:27 Cprossu damn.
01:27 y007ghg7 ?
01:27 Cprossu it's COLD!
01:27 Cprossu lol
01:27 y007ghg7 sure doesnt feel like 55 here....
01:27 y007ghg7 its cold as fuck
01:28 dbshortwave .tfw 13346
01:28 BotSteve 35°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Hamilton, NY!  'Why do I live here?'
01:28 dbshortwave i keep asking myself that
01:32 lwq1996 i figured out barnies new theme song "i love you, you love me, lets get together and make babies."
01:33 Monkeh|Lap lwq1996: He's going for generation rather than age group these days, eh?
01:33 lwq1996 lol
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01:43 dbshortwave doot doot doot
01:57 * lwq1996 is bored
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01:57 dbshortwave i hate you, you hate me, were all effed up mentally
01:57 dbshortwave XD
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02:15 Monkeh|Lap dbshortwave: Well, that goes without saying
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02:24 Seroster lwq1996, You do NOT end a question with exclamation marks.
02:24 Seroster A question is most often ended with a QUESTION mark.
02:24 lwq1996 I CAN AND I WILL
02:24 Seroster As for the ammount of exclamation marks, one does the job.
02:24 Seroster Two is overkill.
02:25 Seroster Three is obnoxious
02:25 Katemonster !!!
02:25 Seroster Four is borderline idiocy
02:25 Seroster And five... Well that's just lee =)
02:25 lwq1996 :P
02:25 Katemonster iQue rico!
02:25 Seroster Gesundtheit
02:26 Seroster Goodnight lee 0)
02:27 lwq1996 awe your going to bed?
02:27 Seroster Its three fucking thirty AM
02:27 Seroster YES I AM
02:27 lwq1996 damn
02:28 lwq1996 stay up till 4 :D
02:28 Seroster ...
02:28 Seroster I will, with my woman. Nuff said. Goodnight sir.
02:29 lwq1996 your gona do it with yourself?
02:29 Seroster ...
02:29 Seroster You'll understand when you get older lil fellah.
02:32 Monkeh|Lap Poor Lee.
02:32 lwq1996 he didnt get the joke i was going fore
02:32 lwq1996 for
02:32 NeWtoz he means he is going to read her a bedtime story
02:32 Monkeh|Lap No, he probably didn't, but he doesn't get a lot of things.
02:32 Monkeh|Lap Still, poor Lee. :P
02:33 lwq1996 fuck you guys
02:33 lwq1996 -.-
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Sorry, I at least don't swing that way.
02:33 lwq1996 if only i was an op
02:33 NeWtoz then what?
02:35 lwq1996 oh think
02:36 NeWtoz maybe that is why you shouldn't be one
02:45 DruidicRifleman whats up
02:49 NeWtoz a relative question
02:49 NeWtoz but for me, about to work a little on my arcade cabinet
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03:04 AndroUser2 can anyone
03:08 tonsofpcs maybe?
03:11 MadManMarkAu Hahaha, I laugh at all the people on YouTUBE who comment on videos about the sound of space... "You fkn idiot there iz no sound in space cuz there is no air an shit go back to 3 grade"
03:11 MadManMarkAu People cling so dearly to their belief
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03:12 tonsofpcs erm
03:12 MadManMarkAu However, what "sound of space" refers to is the radio noise
03:12 MadManMarkAu And no matter how you explain it to them, most just don't get it
03:12 tonsofpcs there's air in space.
03:13 tonsofpcs and sound doesn't require air.
03:13 MadManMarkAu Does not sound require a medium to travel through?
03:13 injektion ^
03:13 injektion I was about to ask that lol
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03:16 tonsofpcs MadManMarkAu: it does, but air doesn't have to be the medium.  It can also transfer between media
03:16 producerbill2 I must still be logged in at work
03:16 producerbill2 dam it
03:16 tonsofpcs and the medium itself can carry the sound.  I can throw sound at you through a vacuum, it just requires particles be sent...
03:17 producerbill2 time for some drinking nd coding
03:17 MadManMarkAu Yeah, somehow I doubt these people would appreciate the nitty-gritty issues like that.
03:17 tonsofpcs mmmm, codrinking
03:18 producerbill2 lol
03:18 MadManMarkAu Interesting concept, though. I blow air at you through space to transfer sound
03:18 Cprossu producerbill2: seems that the jupiter pc is up
03:18 Cprossu yet somewhat braindead
03:19 producerbill2 ok,,, can you change the feed
03:19 Cprossu responds to ping, teamviewer responds on port 80, but it's like... durrrr
03:19 producerbill2 ?
03:19 tonsofpcs well.... if you do the calculations properly, you can ush an object from point A to point B such that some sounds originated at A are still traveling through it when it reaches B......
03:19 Cprossu I can change it to a blank screen
03:19 Cprossu or whatever's hooked to the second cap card
03:19 Cprossu let me see
03:19 producerbill2 what if you restart
03:19 tonsofpcs Cprossu: try an older version of the client?
03:19 Cprossu that could work,
03:19 Cprossu let me give it a go
03:20 producerbill2 ok
03:22 Cprossu no dice tonsofpcs
03:23 producerbill2 maybe the Saturn is stuck
03:23 producerbill2 lol
03:23 Cprossu it's happened before
03:23 tonsofpcs yell at yNos to fix the interwebs for you?
03:23 Cprossu it goes through phases
03:23 Cprossu it's got it's times of the month too
03:23 lwq1996 HEY ITS BILL JONES
03:23 tonsofpcs are you sure it's not in screensaver?
03:23 tonsofpcs WHERE?
03:23 Cprossu anyone at the lab right now?
03:24 lwq1996 lol
03:24 Cprossu @ producerBill
03:24 producerbill2 yep it me
03:24 Cprossu anyone else?
03:24 producerbill2 no
03:24 tonsofpcs right, I got that, he was yelling :-p
03:24 Cprossu shat. so mc is locked up tighter than a ....
03:24 tonsofpcs Cprossu: room with a lock on the door?
03:24 Cprossu sure.
03:24 lwq1996 lol
03:25 tonsofpcs and five open bays 16' above oopen rooms below?
03:25 Cprossu ladder would work but he doesn't have a death wish.
03:25 producerbill2 lwq.  what about me
03:25 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Don't you recall them having to pick most of the locks? :)
03:25 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Death wish? That's not high.
03:25 lwq1996 idk bill
03:25 lwq1996 i wanted to show you something but i forget what it was :\
03:25 Cprossu have you seen bill Monkeh|Lap?
03:26 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I'd trust anyone willing to go to MC could pick the locks, but MC has an entire side of it that is wide open... it's just 16' above the floor below :)
03:26 producerbill2 I am scared, ,,, last time some told me that I ended up in a trunk
03:26 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Probably, but I can't place the name.
03:26 lwq1996 what?
03:26 tonsofpcs producerbill2: don't worry, lee does't have access to elephants.
03:27 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Isn't that over the studios?
03:27 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: yes.
03:27 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Ehh, that's nothing. Get up a ladder!
03:28 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: while I may be closer than you or Cprossu, I'm still a 12 hour drive away.
03:28 producerbill2 fuck ladders
03:28 tonsofpcs uh oh, bill is turning into seroster
03:28 Monkeh|Lap producerbill2: What's wrong with ladders?
03:29 producerbill2 I chats nights, but love roller costers figure that out
03:29 injektion Every time I use a ladder I feel like Gordon Freeman
03:29 Monkeh|Lap injektion: Just floating, waiting to go splat?
03:29 producerbill2 I hate highways
03:29 injektion lol
03:29 producerbill2 uuhggggg auto correct it killing me
03:29 producerbill2 lol
03:30 injektion Half-Life made me hate ladders
03:30 Cprossu injektion: The ladders at TGG remind me of Half-Life ladders
03:30 Cprossu especially the ones to the roof(S)
03:30 producerbill2 lol
03:30 injektion I hate those roof access ladders
03:31 Cprossu I am happy with them
03:31 Cprossu they are solid and feel well built
03:31 MadManMarkAu ACK!
03:31 MadManMarkAu ON scanner: "70, female, vomiting black fluid"
03:31 Monkeh|Lap Unlike stepladders those are quite substantial
03:31 MadManMarkAu o_o
03:32 Monkeh|Lap However they are a little more dangerous to climb
03:32 Cprossu anyway mc is locked up and there's nothing I can do remotely due to the phase of the moon. sorry producerbill2.
03:32 producerbill2 ok
03:32 Monkeh|Lap People often ignore the three points rule with angled ladders. Doing so with a vertical one is unwise.
03:32 Cprossu if it comes back suddenly I'll fix it
03:32 injektion "It's impossible for me to do anything due to the tides being low"
03:32 Cprossu and put it on sec feed
03:33 producerbill2 we would
03:33 producerbill2 should
03:33 Cprossu injektion: or high you don't know. it doesn't either
03:34 Cprossu (damn Saturn)
03:34 Cprossu my guess is screwed up dcom is causing this somehow
03:34 producerbill2 downloading serial stuff right now for Java
03:35 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: 3 points rule?
03:35 tonsofpcs it's a ladder, not a basketball hoop!
03:36 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Maintain three points of contact with the ladder at all times.
03:36 tonsofpcs Cprossu: you mean vertical ladders tied into building steel?
03:36 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Not doing so makes for bad times on vertical ladders. Briefly. Depending on height.
03:37 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: <3 vertical ladders with proper cages, you can stop anywhere, sit and relax :)
03:37 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Rarely have cages except at entry/exit points.
03:38 lwq1996 hey producerbill2 i would like to get into making programs and stuff more...where would i start?
03:38 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: had a 50' (well, a bit more) ladder in the proscenium theater at school with cage the whole way (save for the transfer platform about 20' up and the weight loading platform 2
03:38 tonsofpcs ' from the top)
03:39 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Uncommon. ;)
03:39 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: fun :)
03:39 producerbill2 well more traditional petiole would say start with c but I would say Screen
03:40 tonsofpcs note: I am not a fan of heights, I likely wouldn't go up a 20' A-frame.  I had no real problem with that 50' ladder
03:40 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: And you won't see a cage all the way up, say, a 500' radio tower (those guys.. they're crazy)
03:40 producerbill2 start with c#
03:40 lwq1996 ok, i already know a little bit of python too
03:40 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: uh.... we don't have ladders on our towers... some towers have ladders *inside* them (in which case, the tower is the cage) but most don't.
03:40 producerbill2 easy to use, easy to learn, easy to build apps for everything
03:40 lwq1996 k
03:41 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I've got a video somewhere of a couple of guys climbing a radio tower via an external uncaged ladder.
03:41 lwq1996 do you know any websites that will help me out? besides youtube
03:41 producerbill2 plus c# express is free
03:41 injektion .NET D:
03:41 lwq1996 .g plus c# express
03:41 BotSteve lwq1996: http://www.mrexcel.com/learncsharp.html
03:42 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: a permanent one or one attached to a gin pole?
03:42 tonsofpcs some of the real fancy tall towers have elevators in them
03:42 injektion I thought the point of .NET was to do what Sun did with java which is code/compile once and run everywhere
03:42 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Permanent for maintenance access.
03:42 tonsofpcs cool.
03:43 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I have now seen Bill (hi Bill.). He's no bigger than me. :P
03:43 tonsofpcs note: tower climbers are crazy folk.
03:43 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yes, yes they are.
03:44 producerbill2 lwq my big recommendations is to find a porject you need/want software for
03:44 tonsofpcs c#? eww
03:44 lwq1996 like?
03:45 producerbill2 that way you have goal and desires to reach
03:45 lwq1996 idk what i need
03:45 tonsofpcs lwq1996: you need a drive to learn ^^
03:45 lwq1996 i would like to write something that i can use my controller as a mouse
03:46 injektion Start out with VB
03:46 producerbill2 tonsofpcs,,,, don't like c#  your right who would want a ide that works on tons of platforms and is supported by one of the largest companies on earth
03:46 Monkeh|Lap producerbill2: May I just say I totally agree with you on stupidly difficult terminations?
03:47 injektion I wouldn't say that the VS IDE runs on "tons of platforms" because it's limited to Windows producerBill
03:47 lwq1996 i can use c# on window and linux and maby mac?
03:47 producerbill2 but the program can run on tons of things
03:48 tonsofpcs producerbill2: eh, lwq1996 should learn Z80 ASM ;)
03:49 producerbill2 the c# ide only is for windows. but mono I'd a c# port that works on all, but if you are just starting and want the most hand holding and online docs stick to c#
03:49 Monkeh|Lap Oh, wow, I really need to fix Firefox..
03:49 Monkeh|Lap firefox: res_query.c:251: __libc_res_nquery: Assertion `hp != hp2' failed.
03:49 Monkeh|Lap What.
03:50 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: owell, go look at res_query.c ;)
03:50 lwq1996 im still learning python lanuage
03:50 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Err.. You ever tried to look at Firefox source?
03:50 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: not while sober.
03:50 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Don't.
03:50 producerbill2 all I can say is I learned on c#. it helped me build the confidence to try other languages
03:50 lwq1996 i went to my local CTC and when to the computer programing part and the instructor was amazed i knew atleast python lanuage
03:51 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: .. Oh, balls, I was right.
03:51 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's not Firefox which is going wrong.
03:52 Monkeh|Lap Oh, that is so not a fun place for things to be broken.
03:52 * Monkeh|Lap headdesks a few times
03:52 producerbill2 I still want to learn python,,,, just not enough hours in the day
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03:53 Toastdude Hi
03:53 lwq1996 lol, start with botsteve :P hes where i started
03:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Give you a guess from the error where the bug lies.
03:54 lwq1996 .code
03:54 BotSteve You can download my code at https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve
03:54 lwq1996 or just fork it on github
03:55 tonsofpcs profile file
03:55 Toastdude producerbill2: I'll get you the video tutorials I used if you'd like
03:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Nope. It's not Firefox.
03:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's in glibc. DNS handling.
03:55 Toastdude A bit simpler than just going right into BotSteve
03:55 * Monkeh|Lap shudders
03:55 tonsofpcs uhhhhh
03:55 lwq1996 whats that website that mom pointed me too
03:55 * lwq1996 slaps masterofmonks awake
03:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: You see why I said 'oh, balls'?
03:55 masterofmonks lwq1996: kill anything?
03:55 Monkeh|Lap NOT where I want a gigantic segfault inducing bug.
03:56 tonsofpcs how do you figure?
03:56 lwq1996 WOW THAT WORKED!?!?!?!?!?!
03:56 producerbill2 ttfn
03:56 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: That it's in glibc?
03:56 lwq1996 no i didnt :(
03:56 tonsofpcs ya
03:56 lwq1996 not enough deer like there used to be
03:56 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Oh, __libc_res_nquery is a good indicator.
03:56 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: And the patch which is already out. My laptop's a bit out of date.
03:56 lwq1996 whats that tutoring site that you linked me once
03:56 tonsofpcs what is the issue?
03:57 tonsofpcs lynda?
03:57 lwq1996 masterofmonks
03:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Poor error handling.
03:57 Toastdude I use this series: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mf0h3HphEA
03:57 BotSteve Title: Python Programming Tutorial - 1 - Installing Python - YouTube
03:57 masterofmonks lwq1996: khanacademy?
03:57 lwq1996 YES THATS IT
03:57 lwq1996 thats where i leanred
03:57 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: catch ex.... throw segfault?
03:57 lwq1996 and toast he left
03:57 Toastdude Ik, I was telling you.
03:58 lwq1996 ok
03:58 Toastdude lol
03:58 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: More like 'totally ignore potential error, break assertion'
03:58 * Monkeh|Lap will fix it tomorrow
03:58 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: don't get me started on input sanitizing.......
03:58 Monkeh|Lap For now, up in 5 hours. blah.
03:58 tonsofpcs anyway, nap time
03:58 tonsofpcs g'nite
04:02 Toastdude Night
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04:24 * sndwrx nods.
04:25 Toastdude Hi sndwrx
04:26 sndwrx What's up man?
04:26 Toastdude Not much, playing around in MPT.. you?
04:28 sndwrx MPT?
04:28 Toastdude Mod Plug Tracker
04:28 Toastdude It's a midi program
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04:29 * sndwrx nods.
04:29 sndwrx Haven't messed with mods or midis in an eternity.
04:29 Toastdude And listening to Skrillex :P
04:29 Toastdude lol
04:29 sndwrx Nice.
04:30 Toastdude Found out there is someone in the same area as I that's a geek group member
04:30 Toastdude :D
04:30 sndwrx Oh cool.  I forget where you are...
04:31 Toastdude Centeral IL
04:31 Toastdude Central*
04:31 Toastdude ...
04:31 sndwrx Oh that's right.
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04:32 Toastdude Ever played with Phun, sndwrx?
04:32 sndwrx The physics engine?
04:35 Toastdude Yep
04:35 sndwrx No, I haven't.
04:35 Toastdude Okay
04:42 masterofmonks lwq1996: what was it you were talking about learning from Khan Academy?
04:43 lwq1996 python
04:45 wannabe1987 that was fun :D
04:45 Toastdude WANNABE!
04:45 wannabe1987 i got your reply, toast
04:45 Toastdude Okay
04:45 wannabe1987 dbshortwave?
04:45 dbshortwave ?
04:46 wannabe1987 is it easy work intensive to do a serpintine belt?
04:46 dbshortwave its not that hard to replace
04:46 dbshortwave a monkey can do it
04:46 dbshortwave there is a map under the hood as to how it goes
04:46 sndwrx Oh, I forgot you had mentioned that--I wanted to take a look at your engine tonight.
04:46 wannabe1987 monday?
04:47 sndwrx dbshortwave: On most cars it's a piece of cake, you're right, there are a couple that it's really awkward though.  Like those that it winds around the motor mount on the passenger side.
04:47 dbshortwave ohhh yeah
04:47 wannabe1987 apparently mine is cracked/ing....and my uncle wants me to look up how its done for him and figure out if its easy :P
04:47 dbshortwave lol like the Chevy malibu
04:48 wannabe1987 and he also said the same thing about the resistor being only fan blades :sigh:
04:48 sndwrx Resistor being fan blades?
04:48 wannabe1987 yeah....not being the heat itself
04:48 sndwrx What year is your Escort again?
04:48 wannabe1987 97
04:48 dbshortwave 97
04:48 wannabe1987 some parts apparently are 96 tho :P
04:49 sndwrx Yeah that body used the same parts across a couple years.
04:49 dbshortwave you have a year span to what parts you can get to work in that car
04:49 dbshortwave mine is like 97 - 2000
04:50 sndwrx Well, if that's the right diagram, then it's simple on your engine (provided there's a little clearance):  http://c.fixya.net/fixya20/uploads/Images/C087C9A.gif
04:50 sndwrx Stuff a 3/8" breaker bar on the tensioner pulley at the top, tweak it and you're good.
04:51 sndwrx Wait, that's assuming you have A/C.  Does it have A/C?
04:51 wannabe1987 yes
04:52 wannabe1987 it even works!
04:52 sndwrx k
04:52 wannabe1987 better than the heat....
04:52 sndwrx Back to the heat... So on the one fan speed that does work, it does blbow air, right?
04:52 wannabe1987 yes.
04:52 sndwrx It's just whatever ambient temperature.
04:53 dbshortwave the belt could be a cause for less heat too
04:53 dbshortwave if its slipping around the pump pully
04:54 sndwrx the water pump, yeah...  But chances are she'd have issues with engine temp if that were the case.
04:54 sndwrx I'm leaning more toward thermostat.
04:54 wannabe1987 lol
04:54 wannabe1987 the temp gauge is broken
04:54 dbshortwave it maybe enough to keep the engine cool just not enough to throw heat
04:54 wannabe1987 so i wouldn't know :P
04:54 * dbshortwave face- desks
04:54 sndwrx eesh.
04:54 wannabe1987 i inhereited the car....
04:54 dbshortwave now you know why....
04:55 wannabe1987 no, because grandma needed a new minivan so grandpa got her "old" one....
04:55 wannabe1987 i still don't know why they need minivans :P
04:55 dbshortwave no thats not what i mean
04:55 dbshortwave lol
04:55 wannabe1987 i know
04:56 sndwrx Ok, start from the beginning.
04:56 sndwrx If you turn the temperature knob, does it feel like there's resistance?
04:56 sndwrx Or does it turn freely with little to no resistance?
04:57 wannabe1987 it turns fine
04:57 sndwrx I can't help but wonder if the cable attachment was broken during the radio job.
04:57 sndwrx Or at some other point.
04:57 sndwrx Okay, "it turns fine" sounds to me like it turns without obstruction.  :P
04:58 wannabe1987 yes :P
04:58 wannabe1987 sorry
04:58 sndwrx Does it turn loosely, or somewhat well not stiff, but with a little resistance?
04:58 wannabe1987 somewhat well not stiff, but with a little resistance
04:58 sndwrx haha okay.
04:58 sndwrx When is the last time the coolant was checked?
04:59 wannabe1987 grandpa filled it 3 months ago
04:59 sndwrx (assuming the last two garages checked, but you never know)
04:59 sndwrx With a 50/50 mix?
04:59 sndwrx or somewhere near.
04:59 wannabe1987 probablu
04:59 wannabe1987 y
04:59 sndwrx Okay, if you can't say for certain then that needs to be double-checked.
05:00 sndwrx I still lean toward thermostat, but dbshortwave could be right in that your crummy frayed belt is slipping.
05:00 dbshortwave i would look into getting a sender for that gauge or a set of pods to watch that engine temp
05:01 dbshortwave as for fan speeds its the resistor
05:01 sndwrx I'm trying to avoid the notion that it could be the heater core.  But normally when the core goes bad, it dumps coolant on the passenger floor board.
05:01 dbshortwave yup
05:01 wannabe1987 yeah....i don't recall that happening
05:01 dbshortwave or smells funny
05:01 wannabe1987 and sadly i didn't make a thread :(
05:01 dbshortwave its fine
05:02 sndwrx wannabe1987: If you can get the belt tomorrow, I'll replace it for you and take a look at some other things.
05:02 wannabe1987 tomorrow is sunday, and mom and dad won't go for that....because um they don't shop on sundays....
05:02 sndwrx If you can get money tomorrow, we'll pick up a belt and replace it.  :P
05:03 sndwrx If that belt really is frayed, it could shred to bits, detonate under the hood and cause some damage.
05:03 wannabe1987 i can ask them.
05:03 sndwrx $20
05:03 sndwrx plus tax.
05:03 wannabe1987 where?
05:04 sndwrx AutoZone
05:04 wannabe1987 ok
05:04 sndwrx Oh, that's without A/C.
05:04 sndwrx $24+tax with A/C
05:04 sndwrx There's an AutoZone right down the road from me.
05:04 wannabe1987 theres an autozone by meijer in jenison too :D
05:04 sndwrx I can't get to Jenison.  :P
05:04 wannabe1987 i know
05:05 wannabe1987 but i can pick it up there
05:05 sndwrx Looks like they have chintzy belts for $17-$20, too.
05:06 wannabe1987 apparently the ford has been without heat longer than i remember o.O
05:06 sndwrx Crap.  My breaker bar is in my shed.
05:06 sndwrx I may have one in my tool box here, though.
05:06 wannabe1987 wheres your shed?
05:06 sndwrx I know I have a ratchet, but I don't ever trust them for something like that.  I've stripped gears and busted knuckles more than once.  :P
05:06 dbshortwave hmmm
05:06 sndwrx In Gowen.
05:07 wannabe1987 isnt that past greenville?
05:08 sndwrx Not as far east as Greenville, but about five miles north.
05:08 wannabe1987 mhm  drove past it once or twice...
05:08 sndwrx It's probably around eight miles west and five miles north of Greenville.
05:08 wannabe1987 the hell is it doing up there?!
05:09 sndwrx That's where my mom lives, I kept my upright tool chest there when I moved to Florida.
05:09 wannabe1987 ahhhh
05:09 sndwrx Haven't brought it down to Grand Rapids, but I keep two good-sized tool boxes here.
05:09 wannabe1987 apparently my car had no heat last winter too hmmmmm
05:11 sndwrx Advance Auto Parts has the same prices on the belt, so.
05:12 wannabe1987 check autoclinic  they sometimes are cheaper
05:12 sndwrx And they're both open Sunday (at least I think Advance is, I know AutoZone is).
05:12 sndwrx AutoClinic?
05:12 wannabe1987 mhm
05:12 wannabe1987 yNos told me about them
05:12 sndwrx On ScribneR?
05:12 wannabe1987 yessir
05:13 sndwrx Any money saved by buying through them would be negated by the extra time and fuel exhausted.  :P
05:13 wannabe1987 yes, but mom and dad aren't paying my gas....church is
05:13 sndwrx I don't see an actual website for them.
05:13 sndwrx There's a Google Places.
05:13 wannabe1987 yeah, i think i had to call...
05:14 sndwrx Probably.  In which case, I don't expect them to be open Sunday.
05:14 wannabe1987 mhm
05:14 wannabe1987 ok
05:14 sndwrx Their places page doesn't indicate hours.
05:15 sndwrx At any rate, the yay-hoos at Advance and AutoZone have ridiculous buying power.  It seldom gets any cheaper than through them.
05:15 wannabe1987 the struts i priced were 117 at autoclinic, 130? at az/aa
05:15 * lwq1996 nudges wannabe to look at her facebook
05:15 wannabe1987 I"M typing to someone else.  patience, young grasshopper!
05:16 sndwrx Could have been a sales person at AutoZone attempting to upsell and not giving you the bottom dollar.
05:16 lwq1996 UM I THINK YOUR PERSON CAN WAIT, THIS IS IMPORTANT IF I GET MY ASS KICKED
05:16 sndwrx That's not uncommon.
05:16 wannabe1987 my dad cannot wait
05:16 wannabe1987 it was from the website, actually
05:17 wannabe1987 but i still don't have $$ for them, so it don't matter
05:17 sndwrx Got it.
05:18 wannabe1987 dbshortwave why r u crying?
05:18 dbshortwave i have to replace the fuel pump in my blazer again
05:18 wannabe1987 :(
05:18 sndwrx oh crap!
05:18 wannabe1987 lolololol
05:18 sndwrx What happened?
05:19 wannabe1987 hahaha
05:19 dbshortwave not funny
05:19 wannabe1987 ik
05:19 wannabe1987 i'm still laughing
05:19 dbshortwave 18 gallons of gas needs to be dropped
05:19 lwq1996 no just drop the take and do it that way
05:19 dbshortwave 1 gallon of gas is like what 2 or 3 pounds?
05:20 lwq1996 got a floor jack?
05:20 sndwrx uh, no.
05:20 dbshortwave this guy is funny
05:20 sndwrx A gallon of milk is approx 7.5lbs.
05:20 dbshortwave ok
05:20 sndwrx So gasoline is pretty darn close.
05:20 lwq1996 dbshortwave got a floor jack?
05:20 dbshortwave 7.5 * 18 = merry christmas
05:20 wannabe1987 sndwrx: after playing a full messiah tonight, my cello-playing sister gets to go work in the ER till like...7a :P
05:21 sndwrx You're looking at quite a lot of weight and potentially a mess if the fuel cell is full.  :P
05:21 sndwrx wannabe1987: nice!
05:21 wannabe1987 not
05:21 wannabe1987 poor girl :P
05:21 dbshortwave yeah it needs to be dropped at an angle
05:21 lwq1996 .c 7.5*18
05:21 BotSteve 135
05:21 sndwrx dbshortwave: So was it another bad pump or what?
05:21 lwq1996 DB
05:21 lwq1996 DO YOU GOT A FLOOR JACK
05:21 wannabe1987 lol
05:21 lwq1996 what i asked three times
05:21 dbshortwave a floor jack isnt going to help
05:21 lwq1996 yes
05:22 dbshortwave LOL nooooo
05:22 wannabe1987 ik u did
05:22 lwq1996 you dont need to take the gas out
05:22 dbshortwave ive dropped it once already
05:22 * dbshortwave face-desks
05:22 lwq1996 ok you jack that jack up too the take and undo that straps and drop it
05:23 wannabe1987 hey, he knows how to do it
05:23 wannabe1987 he just did it
05:23 dbshortwave http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SGT-GM56C/
05:23 BotSteve Title: Spectra Premium 434-GM56C - Spectra Premium Fuel Tanks - Overview - SummitRacing.com
05:23 dbshortwave look at that tank
05:23 wannabe1987 wait, seroster isn't 20 yet?!
05:23 dbshortwave its LONG
05:23 dbshortwave the fill  and vent neck are in the back
05:23 lwq1996 do is a take with two fuel pumps on a ford f150
05:23 dbshortwave you have to drop the tank at an angle
05:23 sndwrx BotSteve should tinyurl links.
05:23 BotSteve Not a chance
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05:24 BotSteve Master. *bows*
05:24 wannabe1987 hi astro73|mal
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05:24 lwq1996 wow i failed at typing
05:24 lwq1996 jack it in the middle and get two guys to balance it
05:24 dbshortwave the tank is FULL 18 gallons
05:24 dbshortwave it wont work
05:25 dbshortwave there is a lip off the frame
05:25 dbshortwave it HAS to drop at an angle
05:25 dbshortwave i had the tank down once
05:25 dbshortwave i replaced the pump once
05:25 lwq1996 ah...sorry didnt know it was at and angle
05:25 dbshortwave yeah i have to put the back axel on stands to get it out from under it
05:26 Toastdude BotSteve: Should?
05:26 sndwrx That's because you were too busy telling him how to do it, and not listening to him explain that he's already done it.  :P
05:26 lwq1996 ok theres only one thing to do....MAKE SURE YOU DONT GET A SHITTY PUMP!!!!!
05:26 Toastdude BotSteve: Should ?
05:26 BotSteve Nope
05:26 Toastdude okay, thanks BotSteve
05:26 wannabe1987 toast!
05:26 lwq1996 db do you live in mi
05:26 dbshortwave well good luck on finding a 'good' pump
05:26 Toastdude Wannabe!
05:26 wannabe1987 no
05:26 wannabe1987 he's in ny
05:26 dbshortwave cause a new one out of box will fail
05:26 dbshortwave its a 50/50 shot with a new
05:27 lwq1996 gat a airtech fuel pump
05:27 dbshortwave its been noted to happen
05:27 sndwrx <-- hungry
05:27 dbshortwave im not sure if i want to deal with another in tank
05:27 wannabe1987 i stopped at speedway and grabbed pb cups and twizzlers
05:27 wannabe1987 speedway cuz i have a gc there :P
05:27 sndwrx nice dinner!
05:27 dbshortwave lol
05:27 sndwrx I'm going to go scrounge something up.
05:27 wannabe1987 iik
05:27 lwq1996 is it a new tank or an old one?
05:27 sndwrx Should have had 2/$1 hot dogs.
05:28 dbshortwave its been replaced once before
05:28 sndwrx Not as satisfying, but probably more filling.  :P
05:28 wannabe1987 yeah
05:28 wannabe1987 theres a reason i'm going HOME for food tomorrow
05:28 lwq1996 hmmm
05:28 sndwrx Then again, there was a period that I lived off Little Debbies and Faygo.
05:28 lwq1996 how long ago db?
05:28 wannabe1987 ........
05:28 dbshortwave before i bought the thing
05:29 lwq1996 and you had if for how long and what year is it
05:29 dbshortwave but ive whitnesed new pumps out of box fail ive had to help others replace a new pump with a new pump
05:29 lwq1996 lol
05:30 dbshortwave olds bravada, GMC jimmy, and a blazer
05:30 dbshortwave they are all the same
05:30 lwq1996 thats because they put the new pump in a new tank and the tank is rusty
05:30 dbshortwave on top of the S10  and jimmy pickups
05:30 dbshortwave ah not if its a plastic tank
05:31 dbshortwave they go bad
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05:31 dbshortwave bad from fac
05:31 dbshortwave its noted
05:31 lwq1996 they have plastic tanks?
05:31 dbshortwave yuh
05:31 lwq1996 wow thats fucked up
05:31 wannabe1987 hi mark__
05:31 lwq1996 i woulnt use one ever
05:31 dbshortwave lol not really
05:31 Toastdude Hello mark__
05:31 dbshortwave dont buy a new car
05:31 mark__ hello
05:31 lwq1996 not planning on it
05:31 wannabe1987 my housemates car is a stick....its a newerish ford escape
05:32 lwq1996 i want a Mitsubishi eclipse
05:32 dbshortwave i watched a new honda SUV get picked up by a flatbed dead pump
05:32 lwq1996 an older one
05:32 wannabe1987 the one w/ a big ass?
05:32 wannabe1987 and altezzas?
05:33 dbshortwave lol most of them have plastic in them
05:33 wannabe1987 please say no ro i'll have to shoot you
05:33 lwq1996 my bro has a 96 and it runs good and is all metal
05:33 lwq1996 i like low profile cars wannabe
05:33 wannabe1987 no, the altezzas.  i'll shoot you over them
05:33 dbshortwave i didnt look at the name make of honda i knew it was an SUV
05:33 wannabe1987 they're horribly ugly
05:34 lwq1996 i like my bros eclipse
05:35 lwq1996 .wiki altezza
05:35 BotSteve "The Lexus IS is a series of entry-level luxury cars / compact executive cars sold by Lexus since 1998." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altezza
05:35 * wannabe1987 gives Toastdude her headache
05:35 wannabe1987 no....
05:35 wannabe1987 not them
05:36 wannabe1987 a type of tail light
05:36 lwq1996 oh
05:37 lwq1996 i do hat the tail lights
05:37 lwq1996 im gona put new ones it
05:37 lwq1996 in
05:37 DruidicRifleman hey lee
05:37 DruidicRifleman did you Kill bambi yet
05:37 dbshortwave shit 105.00 for an inline
05:37 lwq1996 hi druid
05:37 lwq1996 no
05:37 dbshortwave summit
05:37 dbshortwave 70psi
05:37 dbshortwave PERFECT
05:37 dbshortwave lol
05:38 wannabe1987 i wish YT videos wouldn't start right away....
05:38 dbshortwave http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-2225/
05:38 BotSteve Title: MSD Ignition 2225 - MSD High Pressure Electric Fuel Pumps - Overview - SummitRacing.com
05:39 DruidicRifleman I wish vids came out quicker
05:39 wannabe1987 dbshortwave: http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381305_10150382331496747_53081341746_8498043_970739593_n.jpg
05:40 dbshortwave pork n krout
05:40 dbshortwave ;]
05:40 wannabe1987 BACON
05:40 wannabe1987 kittah: http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381305_10150382331496747_53081341746_8498043_970739593_n.jpg
05:41 sndwrx wannabe1987: You know they're called Altezzas!!
05:41 wannabe1987 no
05:41 sndwrx Most people call them "euro tails" or "meatball tails".
05:42 sndwrx They're called "altezza tail lights" because the European Altezza was the first with that style.
05:42 wannabe1987 i see.
05:42 wannabe1987 i learned something new :D
05:42 dbshortwave yeah but its a pork and krout manger
05:42 wannabe1987 ok
05:43 dbshortwave ok
05:43 wannabe1987 DruidicRifleman: i can't understand what you posted on that article....please use english next time
05:43 DruidicRifleman about janet totalitariano?
05:43 dbshortwave my house smells like orange/pine
05:44 wannabe1987 i didn't read the article
05:44 wannabe1987 i liked what my friend posted in stead :P
05:44 sndwrx Anyway, I used to have a 1992 Eclipse.
05:45 sndwrx It was driven through a 12' glass windowed garage door by accident.  :/
05:45 sndwrx I'm pretty sure a pepperoni and cheese sandwich with Sriracha on it is going to give me heartburn.
05:46 wannabe1987 ...
05:47 sndwrx (btw the car wasn't crashed through the garage door by me) :P
05:47 wannabe1987 k good
05:47 dbshortwave some 'other' idiot did
05:47 dbshortwave lol
05:47 sndwrx The shop owner's son.
05:47 dbshortwave ;]
05:47 dbshortwave even worse
05:47 wannabe1987 ....
05:48 wannabe1987 insurance pay out?
05:48 sndwrx It was parked in the center bay of the garage I was managing, the driver window was cracked because the keys were in it.  He was trying to be helpful and roll the windows up because a car was being power sprayed in the bay next to it.
05:48 lwq1996 is there any religion in the world that believe in canabalism?
05:48 sndwrx He turned the key too far, the engine turned, he freaked, stomped the clutch, popped the clutch, it lunged forward through the door.
05:48 sndwrx haha.
05:49 dbshortwave ouch
05:49 wannabe1987 ...
05:49 wannabe1987 ow
05:49 sndwrx I was standing on the outside of the door talking with a customer.
05:49 sndwrx Fortunately no one was hurt.
05:50 wannabe1987 thats good
05:50 lwq1996 yes someone was :( the car
05:50 sndwrx An awful lot of broken glass and twisted aluminum framing though.  :P
05:50 wannabe1987 lee, cars != people
05:50 lwq1996 yes :P
05:50 sndwrx You also know it's != and not =/=
05:50 sndwrx haha
05:50 wannabe1987 huh?
05:51 sndwrx Nothing, I just have odd peeves.
05:51 sndwrx What are the really large lobe piercings called?
05:51 lwq1996 we call our cars babies right
05:51 lwq1996 so they are people :P
05:51 wannabe1987 lee, my car is female, but she's not my baby, i dont' take care of her well enough
05:51 wannabe1987 i do know what they're called but i forget :/
05:52 lwq1996 lol
05:52 lwq1996 what did you call your car? :P
05:52 wannabe1987 no, the earlobe piercings sndwrx is talking bout
05:53 NeWtoz my car's name is Jimmy
05:53 wannabe1987 drew called mine court, cuz she's an escort, but i don't like that name for my car
05:53 sndwrx ...Is it a GMC Jimmy?
05:53 NeWtoz heh, yup
05:53 lwq1996 so its a shemale?
05:53 * sndwrx snickers.
05:53 sndwrx You oughta give dbshortwave a hand with his fuel pump then.
05:53 wannabe1987 lol
05:54 sndwrx Birds of a feather.
05:54 wannabe1987 except NeWtoz is here and db is in ny :P
05:54 * lwq1996 steps far back
05:54 dbshortwave no that fuel pump thing is a curse
05:54 dbshortwave stay away
05:54 sndwrx Oh didn't know NeWtoz was here.  Grand Rapids, "here" ?
05:54 NeWtoz yuppers
05:54 wannabe1987 yep
05:54 lwq1996 nah, you just need to find lots of 5gal buckets or another tank to dump it into then its a piece of cake :P
05:54 sndwrx That's cool.
05:54 wannabe1987 trust me, i know where most people are from o.O
05:55 lwq1996 newtoz do you help out at tgg
05:55 lwq1996 wannabe what town do i live in
05:55 NeWtoz I lurk enough to remain anonymous
05:55 wannabe1987 irvona
05:55 lwq1996 see
05:55 lwq1996 :P
05:55 NeWtoz lwq1996, not much, but I have been there a few times
05:55 dbshortwave she wants to know she she can quicky get out a restreining order against the crazys lol
05:55 NeWtoz I always want to go, just never really have the time
05:55 * dbshortwave runs
05:55 lwq1996 work?
05:56 lwq1996 she can stay at my house idc
05:56 NeWtoz a big part of it
05:56 wannabe1987 yes, NeWtoz, but i know where you work :P
05:56 * NeWtoz gasps
05:56 wannabe1987 you've said...
05:56 NeWtoz I know
05:56 NeWtoz :p
05:56 lwq1996 where then?
05:56 wannabe1987 college in GR
05:56 lwq1996 oh yeah i remember him saying that
05:57 sndwrx lwq1996: Anywhere near Meadville?
05:57 wannabe1987 http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2011/12/2/14/enhanced-buzz-wide-3002-1322853182-10.jpg  how did they get it down?
05:57 NeWtoz anonymity!
05:57 lwq1996 you know i give all you people your own voices when i read the irc :P
05:57 lwq1996 sndwrx idk, ive never looked
05:58 NeWtoz lwq1996 hears voices
05:58 lwq1996 lol yup :P
05:58 sndwrx lwq1996: I mean are you anywhere near Meadville?  :P
05:58 lwq1996 and sndwrx if thats near erie if i think right no
05:59 lwq1996 you live in meadsville?
05:59 sndwrx South of Erie, yeah.
05:59 lwq1996 then i live like 3-4 hours away
05:59 sndwrx No.  I was just trying to see how closely it could find your town with your IP.  :P
06:00 sndwrx Not using a very good tool, though.
06:00 lwq1996 i live in the middle of altoona and clearfield
06:00 sndwrx Altoona?  You mean there's another state in this amazing union that was stupid enough to name a town "Altoona" ?
06:00 lwq1996 oh, my ip is off because everytime i go to sites that use your ip to advertise stuff in my area its meadville
06:00 sndwrx There's an Altoona in the middle of podunk, Florida.
06:01 lwq1996 lol
06:01 lwq1996 no altoona pa i mean
06:01 sndwrx Right.
06:01 sndwrx I understood, hence "another state" statement.
06:01 dbshortwave i need some sleep i guess
06:01 wannabe1987 lol
06:01 wannabe1987 db sleep is good
06:01 Toastdude lol
06:01 lwq1996 infact how do i change that thing with the ip problem
06:02 sndwrx night dbshortwave.
06:02 dbshortwave nite
06:02 dbshortwave SHOT TIME TOO
06:02 lwq1996 i dont live in meadville but it keeps saying i do
06:02 sndwrx Okay LMFAO and Li'l Jon.
06:02 dr_jkl why cant i find a poker app for android that is just 5 card stud against $opponent
06:02 dr_jkl none of this texas holdem flop and blind shit
06:03 dr_jkl just five cards and a simple ante system
06:03 wannabe1987 because you haven't made it yet
06:03 dr_jkl thats all i want
06:03 sndwrx I like Dragonplay's Live Hold'em.  It's the only Texas Hold'em game I actually like.
06:03 sndwrx don't know about any other poker games though, sorry.
06:03 dr_jkl hooldem has too many rules
06:03 Toastdude Hi dr_jkl
06:03 lwq1996 lol
06:04 dr_jkl and hiya toast
06:04 lwq1996 like dont put your foot on the table, no shoes on the carpet :P
06:04 lwq1996 dont pass go
06:05 sndwrx Too many rules?
06:06 wannabe1987 do not collect 200power (o wait, thats LOTR monopoly)
06:06 NeWtoz dr_jkl is a guy who likes card games like Go Fish
06:06 wannabe1987 girl*
06:06 lwq1996 lotr?
06:06 sndwrx Old Maid?
06:06 wannabe1987 lord of the rings
06:07 wannabe1987 lotr
06:07 wannabe1987 seriously lee?
06:07 lwq1996 oh
06:07 dr_jkl none of this big blind little blind flop shit. give me 5 cards and simple ante and some booze
06:07 lwq1996 i dont like those types of movies
06:07 lwq1996 lol
06:07 wannabe1987 you should still know what LOTR stands for!
06:07 lwq1996 booze is good :P
06:07 sndwrx the blinds aren't something you have to worry about.  Apps take care of that for you.
06:07 wannabe1987 and how do you not like "that kind" (what kind) of movies?
06:08 lwq1996 mideaval
06:08 NeWtoz Game of Thrones is better anyways
06:08 wannabe1987 lololol
06:08 wannabe1987 its not midevil
06:08 dr_jkl idiots never fold either
06:08 lwq1996 i consider it that
06:08 dr_jkl they always play the table
06:08 wannabe1987 its sci fi, lee.....or something, but not midevil
06:08 lwq1996 they talk wierd and are not modern
06:09 wannabe1987 i saw this dog tonight :(  poor puppy only had three legs :(
06:09 NeWtoz Fantasy*
06:10 sndwrx Well if someone doesn't want to fold, that's just their money you're taking.  what's the big deal?
06:10 lwq1996 he was a tripod?
06:10 lwq1996 here duke hold the camera :P
06:10 wannabe1987 lwq1996: http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web03/2011/12/2/15/enhanced-buzz-wide-27531-1322856395-48.jpg
06:10 NeWtoz or Epic Fantasy to be more precise
06:11 lwq1996 holy shut
06:11 lwq1996 dman it
06:11 lwq1996 FUCK
06:11 wannabe1987 lol
06:11 lwq1996 LORD DONT WANT ME TO SWEAR TONIGHT
06:11 lwq1996 i hate fantasy then, well i dont really care for it
06:12 Toastdude holy shut!! Dman it!
06:12 Toastdude :P
06:12 Toastdude No I will not shut up Lee
06:12 sndwrx I didn't get into LOTR but I can tolerate it more easily than sci-fi.
06:12 * lwq1996 slaps toast with rotten fish
06:12 Toastdude Was it a herring?
06:12 sndwrx No, a red snapper.
06:13 sndwrx is very tasty!
06:13 lwq1996 i can stand sci-fi because i like aliens
06:13 Toastdude Aw... what about Bluegill?
06:13 NeWtoz I watched all the LOTR extended cuts in a day once
06:13 NeWtoz that was a long day
06:13 sndwrx Now, will you take your red snapper or... what's in the box?!
06:13 lwq1996 yes toast i didnt know how to spell it
06:13 wannabe1987 NeWtoz i have not done that *yet*
06:13 sndwrx I like aliens too, but not sci-fi stuff.
06:13 NeWtoz a friend was doing it and invited me, so I figured why not
06:14 lwq1996 i dont like star trek either :P
06:14 * NeWtoz eyes lwq1996
06:14 lwq1996 why i dont like old movies either
06:15 * Toastdude punches Lee with a red herring
06:15 lwq1996 and isnt that considered sci-fi fantacy
06:15 * NeWtoz is watching an episode of DS9 right now
06:15 lwq1996 how can you punch with a fish?
06:15 wannabe1987 i'll watch startrek, i like starwars and i've enjoyed most recently, SGA
06:15 masterofmonks The best Star Trek
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06:15 sndwrx You know what that show does to me?  Deep Sleep 9+ hours.
06:15 lwq1996 i like star wars :3
06:15 Toastdude I've never intently watched Star Trek...
06:16 wannabe1987 what show?
06:16 NeWtoz star wars, bleh
06:16 lwq1996 you know i dont like walker texas ranger either
06:16 wannabe1987 i havent' seen that
06:16 * lwq1996 is gona be killed by chuck noris
06:16 sndwrx Don't like Chuck Norris?  Permaban.
06:16 * Toastdude goes to watch Caprica
06:16 lwq1996 no i like chuck norris
06:17 sndwrx EVIDENTLY NOT
06:17 lwq1996 i just dont like that perticular show
06:17 NeWtoz ok, lets see if there is something we both like...
06:17 lwq1996 i dont like texas showes
06:17 NeWtoz lwq1996, do you like cheese?
06:17 lwq1996 or westerns
06:17 lwq1996 yes i like cheese
06:17 wannabe1987 i dont' like cheese if its not melted
06:17 sndwrx lwq1996: Oh come on now, I know you loved Dallas.
06:18 lwq1996 dallas what?
06:18 * sndwrx snickers.
06:18 sndwrx I figured as much.
06:18 lwq1996 newtoz do you like moldy cheese
06:19 NeWtoz no really
06:19 NeWtoz not
06:19 NeWtoz but lets not break this connection we have
06:19 lwq1996 neither do i!
06:19 sndwrx it's-a gouda!
06:19 sndwrx buh-dum-tiss
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06:20 wannabe1987 lol
06:21 wannabe1987 i'm glad the two of you  have a connection, thats nice
06:21 lwq1996 newtoz do you like wannabe?
06:21 lwq1996 not like like but like
06:21 wannabe1987 leave me out, thx
06:22 sndwrx hahaha
06:22 lwq1996 nope :3
06:22 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgAlQuqzl8o&amp;feature=share  i want a bow like that....
06:22 BotSteve Title: Cello Wars (Star Wars Parody) Light Saber Duel - Steven Sharp Nelson - YouTube
06:23 NeWtoz she makes cookies, and I like her for that, but I don't know her anymore then that
06:23 wannabe1987 good answer
06:23 lwq1996 lol then we have stuff in vommen
06:23 BatSteve vommen!
06:23 lwq1996 commen*
06:23 wannabe1987 bats!
06:23 lwq1996 lol
06:23 sndwrx Velkommen BatSteve
06:23 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve :D
06:24 BatSteve hey sndwrx, wannabe1987
06:24 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgAlQuqzl8o&amp;feature=share  who knew darth vader played the accordian...
06:24 BotSteve Title: Cello Wars (Star Wars Parody) Light Saber Duel - Steven Sharp Nelson - YouTube
06:24 lwq1996 .yuno
06:24 BotSteve Little Kids: Y U NO SPELL RIGHT???????????
06:24 lwq1996 XD
06:24 lwq1996 OMG THATS GREAT
06:24 lwq1996 .yuno
06:24 BotSteve Cat: Y U NO SPEEK ENGRISH?????????
06:24 lwq1996 .yuno
06:24 BotSteve Fox News: Y U NO HAVE NEWS ABOUT FOXES??????????
06:24 * wannabe1987 brings this video to her brother tomorrow....
06:25 wannabe1987 1) he plays cello 2) he likes starwars 3) this is epic
06:25 wannabe1987 hmmmm
06:25 lwq1996 starwars is epic
06:25 wannabe1987 this video is epic....
06:25 BatSteve .seen sbp
06:25 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw sbp 33.34 hours ago at 2011-12-02 21:05:45 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:25:57 UTC
06:26 lwq1996 no its epicer, because starwars is already epic
06:26 lwq1996 :P
06:27 sndwrx HAHA Chewbacca.
06:27 sndwrx Not a fan of Star Wars, but that's pretty good.
06:27 lwq1996 cellobacca?
06:28 lwq1996 wannabe!!!!!
06:28 wannabe1987 ?
06:28 lwq1996 CELLOBACCA
06:28 wannabe1987 i heard? saw? you the first time
06:28 * wannabe1987 head explodes
06:28 wannabe1987 STOP EYLLLING
06:28 wannabe1987 i already have one headache!
06:28 lwq1996 eyllling?
06:28 wannabe1987 yes
06:28 wannabe1987 i slept 16 hours overnight and i'm tired again
06:29 wannabe1987 so i'm going to bed now
06:29 wannabe1987 besides, up at 8, church at 9:30....
06:29 * lwq1996 eyllling louder now
06:29 DruidicRifleman i wish i could sleep
06:29 * wannabe1987 /ignore lwq1996
06:29 DruidicRifleman what ever happend to the mumble server
06:29 lwq1996 no :(
06:29 wannabe1987 DruidicRifleman: try some melatonin.  its otc, but its a natural thing your body makes to help you sleep, some bodies don't make enought ho
06:29 wannabe1987 tho*
06:30 wannabe1987 lwq1996 i wouldn't
06:30 wannabe1987 .mumble
06:30 wannabe1987 ?
06:30 * lwq1996 mumbles obseen words abou people
06:30 DruidicRifleman Wannabe
06:31 wannabe1987 druid
06:31 lwq1996 lee
06:31 DruidicRifleman I can take 5x the recomended dose
06:31 sndwrx You can help increase natural melatonin production by putting electronic gadgets away for the night an hour or more before bed, lowering the light levels a half-hour or so before, and lowering the temperature a smidgeon.
06:31 wannabe1987 except i sleep with aheated blanket, so that does no good :P
06:33 lwq1996 hey druidicrifleman why is it illegal to hunt deer on sunday
06:34 * lwq1996 waits for an answer
06:35 BatSteve To get to the other side?
06:35 lwq1996 ?
06:36 BatSteve Why is it illegal to hunt deer on Sunday sounded like a joke
06:36 BatSteve like why did the chicken cross the road?
06:36 DruidicRifleman Stupid anti hunting types
06:36 lwq1996 ah
06:37 lwq1996 batsteve i assume you never hunted before
06:37 masterofmonks .wa why did the chicken cross the road?
06:37 BatSteve Correct, it's not something I'm really interested in.
06:37 BotSteve Why did the chicken cross the road?;To get to the other side., (ha, ha)
06:37 lwq1996 ah
06:38 masterofmonks lwq1996: it is not illegal to do so here in Florida.
06:38 lwq1996 wow
06:39 sndwrx Yeah, I'm curious to know if it is in Michigan.  I'd never heard that.
06:39 wannabe1987 i'd text my uncle but he's in bed....
06:39 wannabe1987 he would know, ya know, cuz he owns his own butcher shop AND huts
06:39 wannabe1987 hunts*
06:41 * sndwrx nods.
06:41 masterofmonks lwq1996: Here is the answer.
06:42 masterofmonks Anything that is illegal to do on Sunday, is because it is the christain sabbath.
06:42 lwq1996 ah
06:42 masterofmonks It is a form of legislating morality.
06:42 lwq1996 i hear that they are trying to change the law though
06:43 DruidicRifleman it was done by the church to discurage people from skipping church to kill tasty bambi
06:43 NeWtoz It is not illegal to hunt on Sunday in Michigan
06:44 NeWtoz that would not work out so well
06:44 lwq1996 lol
06:44 sndwrx I didn't think so, but I've never been hunting so I didn't know.
06:45 BatSteve Murder is illegal on sundays.
06:45 BatSteve I blame christians for that too.
06:45 lwq1996 lol
06:46 wannabe1987 damn, we take the blame for *everything*
06:50 masterofmonks Well the alternative is burning atheists at the stake.
06:50 lwq1996 yup
06:51 * wannabe1987 leaves it alone, i want sleep tonight "p
06:51 wannabe1987 :P*
06:51 sndwrx Outta here, wannabe1987 ?
06:51 wannabe1987 in 10 min...gotta be up around 8
06:51 * sndwrx nods.
06:52 sndwrx Well, see about getting that belt tomorrow.
06:52 * lwq1996 jauts that down
06:52 wannabe1987 i will.  i facebookd dad, so he'll get it in the AM
06:52 sndwrx We can probably take care of the heat resistor too, and possibly look into thermostat or whatever, if you can swing it.
06:52 wannabe1987 well, the blower motor thingy is still sitting on the floor of the car.  idk why they didn't put it back.
06:53 sndwrx Maybe they assumed you were going back to them for it.
06:53 sndwrx Maybe they forgot.
06:53 sndwrx Maybe it was deliberate to get you to go back to them and not somewhere else.
06:53 wannabe1987 :shrug:  who knows
06:53 wannabe1987 lol
06:54 sndwrx But yeah.  Right around $20 each or so for those three items.
06:55 wannabe1987 alright.  i'll be on tomorrow (always...) and will talk to dad/mom
06:55 wannabe1987 see what kind of money they have in the house....:P
06:55 sndwrx I don't think i could bow right-handed.
06:55 wannabe1987 no?
06:55 sndwrx Pretty sure I'd have to with my left hand.
06:56 wannabe1987 ...i've never met a left handed bower on any instrument...
06:56 * sndwrx nods.
06:56 wannabe1987 not even my sister em who is a lefty
06:56 wannabe1987 on her viola/violin
06:56 sndwrx Well, I eat and write with left hand.  Do just about everything else right-handed.
06:57 sndwrx Feels awkward holding bow with right and frets with left, though.
06:57 lwq1996 im right handed but shoot with my left
06:57 wannabe1987 ??  frets?
06:57 sndwrx Well whatever they're called on a cello.  :P
06:57 wannabe1987 there are no frets
06:57 sndwrx I'm used to guitar terminology.  :P
06:57 wannabe1987 muscle memory :D
06:57 masterofmonks lwq1996: Left eye Dominant?
06:58 wannabe1987 altho, i'll be putting tapes on my violin probably :/
06:58 sndwrx Okay well where you hold the strings against the neck of the instrument.
06:58 lwq1996 i can uses either eye
06:58 wannabe1987 first rehearsal is jan 10....
06:58 lwq1996 but idk why i just shoot better with my left
06:58 wannabe1987 concerts are march 2 and april 15 i think
06:59 lwq1996 i tried all those dominant eye tricks and it seems that i can use both
06:59 sndwrx I kind of want to see the hand bells on Monday but probably won't be able to make it.
07:01 wannabe1987 i'm sure embellish will have other concerts....
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07:02 sndwrx I don't think it's Embellish, is it?
07:02 sndwrx "Calvin Handbell Ensemble"
07:02 sndwrx http://www.calvin.edu/academic/music/calendar/2011-2012/December_2011.htm#handbell
07:02 BotSteve Title: Calvin College - Music - Event Calendar
07:03 wannabe1987 :shrug:  if i were awake enough, i'd find my program, there was ssomething about embellish in there....
07:03 sndwrx Oh, and a free concert on Wednesday at Calvin, too.
07:04 wannabe1987 i see that
07:04 wannabe1987 i'd go to the thing sunday night, but i'm singing in church instead :(
07:05 sndwrx What's going on Sunday?
07:05 wannabe1987 lessons and carols at lagrave church
07:05 sndwrx cool
07:05 wannabe1987 yep.  but i have rehearsals at the 3pm concert and church at 5:30 :P
07:05 wannabe1987 reminds me i need to attempt to remember my violin tomorrow
07:06 sndwrx Oh
07:06 sndwrx you have a full schedule already tomorrow.
07:06 wannabe1987 yep
07:07 wannabe1987 sundays have gotten to be busy *again*
07:08 sndwrx I want a carbon fibre cello.
07:09 sndwrx Even if I never learn to play, someday I'm going to have a music room with instruments in my house.  :P
07:10 wannabe1987 you'll learn to play some day.  when you get time/money i'll hoook you up w/ zach or someone who can teach you :D
07:10 sndwrx One day I will, I know.
07:10 lwq1996 ok im going to bed
07:10 lwq1996 later
07:10 BatSteve bye lee
07:10 wannabe1987 night lee!
07:10 sndwrx I've just distracted myself with other, less fulfilling pursuits.
07:10 * wannabe1987 hugs lee
07:10 sndwrx night lwq1996
07:11 lwq1996 -hugs back-
07:11 wannabe1987 like digging through code!
07:17 sndwrx Well.
07:17 wannabe1987 yes?
07:17 sndwrx I might be able to make it to Wednesday's show.
07:17 DruidicRifleman :( Re designing a part from memory in a compleatly differant program is hard
07:17 sndwrx Still undecided about Monday.  I really shouldn't, despite how much I want to.
07:17 wannabe1987 even if you don't go to greenville, can you still get work done?
07:17 wannabe1987 and you can't leave early?
07:18 sndwrx I can get some of the networking done remotely.  Well, configured, at least.
07:18 sndwrx Working on some terminals and virtualization that I need to be there for, though.
07:20 wannabe1987 ah
07:20 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/v/U9MGOckIzlU?version=3&amp;amp;autohide=1
07:20 masterofmonks Your move BotSteve
07:20 * wannabe1987 doesn't trust videos from masterofmonks
07:20 sndwrx http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpx4YqMkrfc&amp;feature=mfu_in_order&amp;list=UL
07:20 BotSteve Title: Classical Music at 180 MPH (O Fortuna Carmina Burana) Piano/Cello - YouTube
07:21 wannabe1987 o.O
07:22 sndwrx These guys are actually pretty good.  I'm surprised I hadn't heard of them until you linked the Cello Wars video.
07:22 wannabe1987 i don't nomrally han gout on yt...
07:22 sndwrx And I can't remember the command to move the user list in Weechat, so I can't click masterofmonks' link, and I'm too lazy to copy and paste it in sections.
07:23 wannabe1987 ...
07:23 masterofmonks http://bit.ly/vUQOBH
07:23 BotSteve Title: Classical Music at 180 MPH (O Fortuna Carmina Burana) Piano/Cello - YouTube
07:24 masterofmonks Correction.
07:24 masterofmonks http://bit.ly/tFtnsO
07:24 sndwrx ha.
07:24 sndwrx Thanks.
07:24 wannabe1987 lol
07:24 sndwrx Would be nice if BotSteve tinyurled links.
07:24 wannabe1987 tell BatSteve
07:25 masterofmonks Oh dear lord don't ask for another swiss army knife.
07:25 sndwrx (or get off my ass, learn Python, and implement it myself.)
07:25 wannabe1987 lol
07:25 BatSteve Too late!  It's getting typed up right now!
07:25 BatSteve muahaha
07:25 wannabe1987 lol
07:25 BatSteve (the feature request, not the code)
07:25 masterofmonks I'll just figure out a way to get around that.
07:25 wannabe1987 lol
07:25 BatSteve (2 sleepy 2 code)
07:25 sndwrx hahah this is a funny video.
07:25 sndwrx NSFW, but funny.
07:26 wannabe1987 what, you're not astro?
07:26 wannabe1987 lol
07:26 masterofmonks Now to toss out three pounds of pecan shells.
07:30 BatSteve fun fact.  chunks[away] is made of three pounds of pecan shells
07:30 wannabe1987 lol
07:32 DruidicRifleman Col video monks
07:34 sndwrx Really?  Linkin Park covered Adele at one of their shows?
07:34 sndwrx Nearly 14 million views since July, too.
07:35 DruidicRifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgFJJ77w2nA Suppsedly there is music in this video I've watched it 10 times and have not noticed any music
07:35 BotSteve Title: Alex Gaudino feat Crystal Waters - Destination Calabria (HD) - YouTube
07:35 wannabe1987 strange
07:36 wannabe-zz bedtime now...
07:36 sndwrx Night wannabe-zz.
07:36 wannabe-zz night.  sleep well
07:36 DruidicRifleman whats sleep?
07:37 killaway^ZZzz nightwanna
07:37 wannabe-zz DruidicRifleman: something i got 16 hours of yesterday
07:37 wannabe-zz night killakee
07:38 masterofmonks Mmmm sea salted pecans.
07:38 sndwrx mm, that sounds good.
07:38 sndwrx I wouldn't mind some pistachios or cashews.
07:38 wannabe-zz mmmmm nuts
07:38 masterofmonks I just spent several hours shelling pecans.
07:39 masterofmonks Fortunately I have more pecans outside.
07:42 masterofmonks yay for having two pecan trees.
07:42 sndwrx Oh that's cool.
07:43 masterofmonks And fortunately this year they decided to have nuts.
07:44 sndwrx They don't every year?
07:49 sndwrx Dang.  There's a beautiful Italian song that I'm trying to remember, and it's right on the tip of my tongue.
07:50 sndwrx aha!
07:51 BatSteve .yt beautiful italian song
07:51 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et4ucvU1dkI
07:51 BatSteve was that it?
07:51 BatSteve I didn't actually click the link
07:51 BatSteve also, I'll be back in a moment
07:51 sndwrx And I can't click the link without considerable effort.
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08:07 BatSteve hm
08:07 BatSteve the bot may have just lost some history
08:07 BatSteve oops
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08:08 BatSteve .seen sndwrx
08:08 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw sndwrx 0.27 hours ago at 2011-12-04 07:51:52 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 08:08:13 UTC
08:08 BatSteve well, that's good
08:08 BatSteve all right, time to sleep
08:10 Sgt_Lemming mmm, filthy dirty lemming
08:10 Sgt_Lemming but had a good day
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08:46 DruidicRifleman I miss making cholatte
08:49 Sgt_Lemming cholatte?
08:57 DruidicRifleman Chocolatte used to do it every year this time
08:58 DruidicRifleman donated it to raise money for charity
09:00 DruidicRifleman I am tempted to do Peanut butter cups
09:00 DruidicRifleman Like epic death by peanutbutter ones
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09:20 Toastdude CaptainNiobe: !
09:20 CaptainNiobe g'day, Toastdude, how are you? :D
09:20 Toastdude Good :D
09:20 Toastdude You?
09:21 CaptainNiobe sweet :)
09:21 CaptainNiobe i'm good, if getting mozzzie-bitten :)
09:21 Toastdude Great! :)
09:21 Toastdude lol
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09:34 Toastdude Hi NeWtoz
09:55 Sgt_Lemming audio sync is out on the latest captains blog
09:57 Av_Nekoroms dang... was just about to watch it
09:57 Sgt_Lemming not by much
09:57 Sgt_Lemming and only really noticed it in one secion
09:57 Sgt_Lemming section*
09:57 Av_Nekoroms ah its only couple of frames
09:58 Sgt_Lemming no, it's more than a couple of frames, but it's only really noticable in one section
10:02 DruidicRifleman hey leming
10:02 DruidicRifleman Abd Niobe
10:09 * Toastdude found out what to do for the next 40 minutes :D
10:09 * Toastdude goes to watch CB
10:13 * DruidicRifleman kicks tose copy cat
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10:58 iSash Hello :)
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11:52 Druidic_Rilfeman hey allo\
11:55 iSash there is like no one here at this time!
11:58 killaway^ZZzz hi
11:58 killaway^ZZzz im always here ;)
11:59 Druidic_Rilfeman is here if my comp is on
12:36 * dbshortwave yawns
12:59 Druidic_Rilfeman DBSW do you sleep
13:03 dbshortwave yeah
13:03 dbshortwave i was just too pissed off at life to change it
13:05 dbshortwave the pump in my blazer DIED with 18 gallons of gas in it
13:05 dbshortwave so i was having a FML moment last night
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13:16 dbshortwave i need a window licker for my fishtank
13:17 wannabe-zz a sucker fish?
13:17 dbshortwave -++yeah
13:20 dbshortwave placosomas
13:21 wannabe1987 so i fell asleep last night to all the vidoes from thepianoguys ....i'm still watching them!
13:21 dbshortwave lol
13:21 wannabe1987 and i *have* to show them to mom....she's a pianist and two of her kids play cello
13:22 wannabe1987 and i have to show the cello wars one to my brother....
13:30 dbshortwave look up keyboardfox on youtube
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13:34 wannabe1987 hi
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13:36 dbshortwave fixed that power jack
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13:48 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | http://www.humblebundle.com/ | Spatula. That is all.
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13:52 BotSteve Sensei. *bows*
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13:54 wannabe1987 :D
13:54 dbshortwave lol
13:54 wannabe1987 there.  msg sent
13:54 BotSteve Spatula.
13:55 dbshortwave k
13:55 dbshortwave i fixed the laptop
13:55 wannabe1987 yay
13:56 dbshortwave power plug on the charger side is dead
13:56 dbshortwave i fixed it like it never happend
13:56 dbshortwave streign releif suppose to stop breakage
13:56 dbshortwave it didnt stop it
13:56 wannabe1987 *looks at time*  o shit
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13:57 dbshortwave yep
13:57 * Experimentonomen plays music so liud that it all just sounds like a loud white noise with some drum sounds mixed in
13:59 wannabe1987 Experimentonomen: what you playing?
13:59 wannabe1987 BotSteve: spatula ?
14:00 sndwrx He said that in response to masterofmonks joining.
14:01 wannabe1987 i don't see where it says mom joined.....
14:01 wannabe1987 but i know
14:01 wannabe1987 ok
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14:02 wannabe1987 i have to go do my hair (again) and get out the door to church.  i'll see ya'll after church
14:05 sndwrx He joined at 8:55 with the big group of other users.
14:05 sndwrx ...she's gone.
14:07 dbshortwave ?.?
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14:09 Druidic_Rilfeman Morning yNos
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14:15 mashpriborintorg hiya
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14:17 mashpriborintorg hi angy
14:17 angy hello
14:19 mashpriborintorg I'm worried because I'm building a house, and it seems the neightbourhood is worse than expected
14:20 angy concrete their house at night then
14:21 mashpriborintorg or microwave them
14:22 angy family size microwave tend to be hard to find, or have quite a bigger range than expected
14:22 mashpriborintorg as the pest chasers do for cockroaches inside the walls
14:22 mashpriborintorg size is not a problem
14:23 sndwrx Microwaving roches inside walls?
14:24 angy size is always a problem =)
14:27 mashpriborintorg I'll have to hide all my stuff when moving, and install security cameras asap
14:28 angy you're in france, right?
14:28 mashpriborintorg yeah
14:28 angy you're not allowed to use private video surveillance
14:29 mashpriborintorg inside cameras for convicting thieves
14:29 angy I don't think it will stand in court in france
14:29 angy but inside is OK
14:30 mashpriborintorg the police will shit bricks if I give them photos of a thief, they do not want to work
14:31 mashpriborintorg my camera is set up to upload immediately snapshots to several mailboxes
14:31 mashpriborintorg quite efficient
14:32 angy I'd be very cautious on the private video surveillance in france
14:32 mashpriborintorg later I'll set up a dvr pc
14:33 mashpriborintorg I use it for keeping an eye on the dog too
14:33 angy thé ``loi vie privée'' is very intense in france
14:33 mashpriborintorg they sell such cameras in stores now, without any notices about law shit
14:34 mashpriborintorg I'll try to gather some info tho
14:34 angy you can be sued using the image right by anybody, expect your family by installing video surveillance. in regard of the law, you have to obtain a written proof by anybody that enter your house to acknowledge they'll be filmed
14:35 angy I bet you can have the case where you end up being sued using your photo proof on the regard of the law by your inside sneaker
14:35 mashpriborintorg it's insane
14:36 Druidic_Rilfeman mash what would happen if you fired a warning shot 3 feet infront of a guy lobbing incideary bombs at your home screeming die motherfucker die?
14:36 angy image protection law
14:36 angy but to really use the law for himself, your robber will have to know it very well, or have a very wrong lawyer
14:37 mashpriborintorg It should be almost as serious as downloading a movie from the peer to peer, Druidic_Rilfeman
14:37 mashpriborintorg robbers will probably be a crap brain level
14:37 angy install a private shooting range in your backyard =)
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14:42 mashpriborintorg shotty french law: the pictues from a surveillance camera cannot be broadcasted onto internet
14:42 angy with the right authorization, you can do it. if all person appearing on it got a signed waiver, it's OK to broadcast
14:43 Druidic_Rilfeman you know...
14:43 Druidic_Rilfeman If i am breaking into someones home...
14:43 mashpriborintorg but thieves will probably not sign the paper :p
14:43 angy that's a point =)
14:43 Druidic_Rilfeman Why should the home owner need to ask my permission to use my photo to send me to jail
14:44 mashpriborintorg because the lawx, here, does not help the correct person
14:45 angy you need constraints to have rights
14:45 angy and you need an army of lawyers to do law as well
14:47 Druidic_Rilfeman soooo if i rob the local frog mart.... would i be allowed to sue for them taking my photo with out my consent?
14:47 angy nope
14:47 angy it's a business, not a private
14:48 Druidic_Rilfeman wow
14:50 angy depending on the size and/or business, the applying laws are not the same. and obviously very different from the laws regarding private property (for non business)
14:50 angy it's the same for lodging/other sites, the laws are not the same regarding video surveillance
14:52 sndwrx So a business who has the finances and most likely insurace to recover from theft is exempt from the surveillance laws you're talking about, but a private party whom may not have the money to recover from theft is not.
14:52 sndwrx Sounds like the guy who broke a window while robbing some place and sued for his injuries.
14:52 mashpriborintorg it's damn stupid arrrrgh
14:53 angy nope. a business that's over 3000sq meters and/or having stocks over ~100k€ is required to have video surveillance. any business can have it if it's said somewhere visible that you are filmed
14:54 Druidic_Rilfeman there was a case a few years a go where a guy could of shot 3 people dead who we're fire bombing his home screaming Die mother fucker die
14:54 angy suing for injuries won't work in france, it will however in USA
14:54 sndwrx Right.  I wasn't aware of the requirements that a business must have surveillance, but I was aware of the statement of video being in use.
14:54 mashpriborintorg yeah, if the badass breaks my window and gets cut, he may sue me, I'll install sugar glasses as they do for movies
14:54 Druidic_Rilfeman the cops charged the guy who's house was firebombed with mise use of a firearm
14:55 MoxieMike_ wreckless endangerment
14:55 sndwrx So, what if I place signs and stickers all over my home indicating that surveillance is in use?
14:55 sndwrx Is that sufficient?
14:55 angy in france, as soon as you're on a private property of another person without their acknowledgment, you're solely responsible for your injuries if you were not invited
14:55 angy nope, you're not a business
14:55 sndwrx Ridiculous.
14:55 sndwrx What if I have a home office, and a portion of the structure is considered my business?  :>
14:56 sndwrx Is only that area applicable, or is the entire property applicable?
14:56 angy I would say you can monitor only that single part
14:56 sndwrx d
14:56 sndwrx u
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14:56 angy or none of it if the primary use of the premises are housing not business
14:56 mashpriborintorg what about the baby surveillance cams then
14:57 mashpriborintorg the baby must sign the paper ?
14:57 angy it's your family, it does not count on a waiver
14:57 sndwrx It isn't uncommon in the US to "write-off" a portion of your residence as home workspace, but it generally doesn't exceed 25-33% of it.
14:57 mashpriborintorg seems it makes a big difference if you are just monitoring and if you are recording
14:58 sndwrx Okay, what if my business has a studio apartment or something that is attached, or within the business' buidling?
14:58 sndwrx Then all areas except the apartment may be under surveillance?
14:59 angy it greatly depend on how it's done
15:00 sndwrx I have a big, several thousand square foot warehouse that is primarily used for business.  But, within that warehouse, I have a 1,000sq ft apartment that I live in.
15:00 Druidic_Rilfeman people wonder why i consider europe a total write off
15:00 angy it's not that way out of the US laws where, in most state, you can monitor your own yard and space but not everyone else without authorizations
15:02 angy mashpriborintorg: décret du 17 octobre 1996 for all informations about video surveillance in private proprettes in france
15:04 angy but you can do it outside of the law, that's not a problem until some useless brat complains
15:08 mashpriborintorg damn I hate this lawyer writting, where is the info I want
15:09 angy you can do a very simple way: be very careful on what you record, i.e. don't go anywhere outside your property, and then don't care about the law
15:09 mashpriborintorg seems the test is for the shops and that kind of stuff, not about the private individual house
15:09 angy most of the time, it's going to be OK as no one know where the law start
15:09 mashpriborintorg in 1996, private cameras were probabnly very, very rare tho
15:09 angy you won't have anywhere close to anyone that really knows his rights with video surveillance
15:10 angy yeah, but the law is going to be revise somewhere in 2789
15:10 angy previous law was from 1946
15:10 mashpriborintorg damnit
15:10 angy so, monitor the near premises of your house and all is going to be OK. and don't hide the cameras
15:11 sndwrx Could you fake an installation that could be argued was in place prior to the law taking effect?  :P
15:11 mashpriborintorg the film stripes must be not be kept more tham 72 hours
15:11 angy there is no grandfather effect
15:11 sndwrx bugger.
15:11 mashpriborintorg the house izs being build, sndwrxd, that will not work
15:12 angy you can interpret the image rights law as destrcut only if asked as well
15:12 sndwrx Oh right, I remember you saying that it was not as nice a neighborhood as you originally thought.
15:15 mashpriborintorg went to see the prigress earlier and saw two bad things, one jackass driving as crazy with his old car, one other with a scooter, but without helmet, driving on the wrong side on the road and taking turnarounds the wrong way
15:15 angy I'll ask my lawyers, but I think you can do it without problems as long as it's not hidden or monitoring out of your private space
15:16 mashpriborintorg will be 100% inside view for shure
15:16 sndwrx Someone paste a long url in this room for me, please?
15:16 angy http://www.lemonde.fr/election-presidentielle-2012/article/2011/12/02/m-juppe-accuse-les-socialistes-de-ressusciter-les-vieux-demons-de-la-germanophobie_1612824_1471069.html#ens_id=1402952
15:16 BotSteve Title: Fillon appelle Hollande à "mettre un terme aux dérapages de ses amis" - LeMonde.fr
15:17 sndwrx hm.  Didn't seem to work.
15:17 sndwrx One more time, please?
15:17 MoxieMike_ http://www.talbots.com/online/browse/product_details.jsp?id=prdi27830&amp;rootCategory=cat70008&amp;catId=cat80006&amp;sortKey=Default&amp;section=Regular&amp;conceptIdUnderSale=cat70008
15:17 BotSteve Title: Talbots - Luster Double-Faced Wool Top | Tops | Apparel Discover your new look at Talbots. Shop our Luster Double-Faced Wool Top for stylish clothing and accessories with a modern twist at Talbots
15:17 sndwrx bugger.
15:17 sndwrx Alright, thanks.
15:19 masterofmonks http://reallymassiveurl.com/mathematicss-defoliation-madrigals-clefts-bypast-phonologist-medications-uncharted-optimizes-muhammadanisms-transporter-imminences-pyrite-hunts-physiological-tenuous-indefinite-transferred-valaries-mementos-leninisms-spirally-pull-deaden-exuded-cloakroom
15:19 BotSteve Title: Google
15:24 mashpriborintorg wow seems to be a potentially good deal http://cgi.ebay.fr/Frequencemetre-Counter-HP-Agilent-53132A-225-Mhz-/180768166316?pt=FR_YO_MaisonJardin_Bricolage_ElectroniqueComposants&amp;hash=item2a169f51ac
15:24 BotSteve Title: Fréquencemètre Counter HP Agilent 53132A 225 Mhz | eBay
15:25 mashpriborintorg I'm already onto a freq gen auction, need to start building a small electronics lab
15:26 mashpriborintorg I already have the scope and pwoer supply
15:26 angy I have an HP one somewhere in the pile of old things
15:26 mashpriborintorg they make better lab instruments than inkjet printers :p
15:27 angy I love hp calculators
15:29 mashpriborintorg I found a HP-46 for 5 euro in a flea market, after cleaning and test it sold at 180 euro onto ebay
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15:32 sndwrx 180?  Never would have seen that.
15:32 sndwrx mornin' Isopropyl|Kindle
15:32 Isopropyl|Kindle mornin
15:33 mashpriborintorg people bid like crazy for hp calculators
15:34 sndwrx What's the interest in them?
15:35 mashpriborintorg they have fairly unique funtions and are very sturdy
15:35 mashpriborintorg and people love them
15:35 angy RPN
15:36 mashpriborintorg mine was from 1973, and it was still working fine, even for the printer ink roll
15:36 * Isopropyl|Kindle uses a casio
15:36 sndwrx huh.
15:37 mashpriborintorg you don't fing anymore stuff like this
15:37 mashpriborintorg *find
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15:41 killakEee hi sndwrx
15:41 sndwrx hi
15:41 sndwrx brb
15:48 dbshortwave hmm
15:48 dbshortwave 48 bucks for a pump and tank
15:48 killakEee <dbshortwave> what kind ?
15:49 dbshortwave 97 chev blazer 4dr
15:49 dbshortwave plastic
15:49 killakEee ah
15:51 dbshortwave bbl
15:55 yNos hiya all
16:01 angy hello yNos
16:02 killakEee hi ynos
16:02 yNos hows it going here?
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16:04 sndwrx Let's see how this works out.
16:05 Monkeh yNos: Cprossu is resolving your RS422 issue.
16:05 yNos cool
16:06 Monkeh yNos: Four port 422/485 PCI card coming your way from him
16:06 yNos supported in linux i hope.
16:06 Monkeh I was going to chip in but he said no, so there's also three pairs of baluns arriving
16:06 Monkeh yNos: Well, they act like chips made 20 years ago. I think it'll work.
16:07 Monkeh yNos: I'm 95.89% certain a 16C554 works.
16:08 Monkeh yNos: I am now certain.
16:08 Monkeh (<3 grep)
16:08 Monkeh yNos: You can even switch between 422 and 485 from software.
16:08 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Road Cases http://youtu.be/TBLnzt1l3wM
16:09 yNos road cases?
16:09 Monkeh yNos: Those awesome ABS armoured travel cases for audio equipment
16:12 Monkeh yNos: Hmm, I can see the driver for this card but I can't seem to get it enabled.
16:13 Monkeh yNos: You can get at the config of the kernel on that.. I assume Arghbuntu box?
16:15 yNos yup
16:15 yNos just not right now
16:15 yNos am at work:(
16:15 Monkeh yNos: grep for SERIAL_8250_EXAR_ST16C554 when you get the chance.
16:16 Monkeh yNos: Ouch.
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16:16 iSasha Man... I'm sooooo pissed at myself!... just sold that tv I got for free at the junk yard for 150 bucks
16:24 mashpriborintorg now to it again 10.000 times and you're rich :D
16:25 iSasha The thing is, I could have sold it for much more
16:25 sndwrx Why did you sell it, then?
16:25 angy it's a start, now you can do better next time
16:26 sndwrx Yeah, I'd say $150 for something you got for free isn't doing too shabby.
16:26 mashpriborintorg vintage hifi systems sell pretty well also, if you happen to find some
16:27 iSasha Well, considering that I put it up late at night, then hours later when I got up, there were already a ton of bids, and then shortly after someone bought it for 150 bucks.... damn.
16:27 iSasha Dude. Anything where I live sells well mashpriborintorg
16:28 y007ghg7 woo
16:28 y007ghg7 i think i solved my issue at why my internet goes out in the rain
16:29 iSasha y007ghg7: well at least your internet does not turn off exactly at 7 PM and turn back on at 7 Am
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16:29 y007ghg7 why does yours?
16:29 iSasha It did before
16:29 y007ghg7 heh
16:29 iSasha Indeed. It took 3 technicians to figure out that they cannot figure out what the problem is.
16:29 y007ghg7 mine used to go out all night from 8pm to around 12am the next morning
16:30 angy street light would be my guess
16:30 iSasha Not mine, I don't have any streets lights around
16:30 angy not really around, it can be quite far and still borked all
16:31 iSasha Nah I think the problem was that the 50 year old copper cables cannot handle a street full of 20 mbps connections, half of which download torrents 24/7
16:32 angy not really if it's very precise timing
16:33 SparkyProjects There's also the possibility that the router has a calendar/time function that has been set.
16:33 SparkyProjects My old 2Wire router could turn off individual connections
16:33 iSasha Changed the router twice
16:33 iSasha In the end, they didn't fix the problem, they just changed it
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16:40 iSasha BTW, in the end, they replaced our 20 mbps/12 hour connection with a 10 mbps / 24 hour connection.
16:44 angy not enough noise margin at 20m then
16:44 angy I bet you're on DSL at these speeds
16:48 angy Kate! Lovely Kate!
16:48 Katemonster hi angy
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16:56 Druidic_Rilfeman Hey kate
16:56 Katemonster hi.
16:59 Seroster Walking out of the convenience store with two bags of kitty litter
16:59 Seroster Outside is an idiot that has been obsessed with me for a few months
16:59 Seroster And he asks "Do you have a cat?"
16:59 Seroster ....
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17:00 Seroster No. I POUR IT IN MY FUCKING BATHTUB! Then I rub it into my skin, and it's DELICIOUS!"
17:00 angy-gone you replied you eat that every dinner?
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17:00 wannabe1987 my brother wants a lightsaber bow...
17:00 wannabe1987 i showed him the cello wars
17:02 sndwrx I spent a while watching thepianoguys' videos last night.
17:02 wannabe1987 i fell asleep to their music
17:02 wannabe1987 yeah, i've seen almost all of them ....
17:03 sndwrx I fell asleep to "Core 'N'grato".
17:04 wannabe1987 ?
17:05 sndwrx It's an Italian song.
17:05 wannabe1987 ah
17:05 wannabe1987 the one you were looking for last night?
17:05 sndwrx Yeah, I couldn't think of the name.
17:06 wannabe1987 ah.
17:06 sndwrx Lurker.  Thought you'd gone to bed by then.  :P
17:06 wannabe1987 i did.  i read my log :P
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17:08 sndwrx Anyway, it's a beautiful song.
17:09 yNos ffffffuuuuuuuuuucccccckkkkkkkkkkkk mywork
17:09 wannabe1987 ...
17:09 sndwrx You okay over there, yNos ?
17:09 yNos just got done with 7 hours of suck
17:10 yNos time to go drink heavily
17:10 yNos ;)
17:10 sndwrx wannabe1987: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmo2T9fL-R4
17:10 BotSteve Title: ANDREA BOCELLI - Core 'Ngrato - YouTube
17:11 yNos hmm.. i hear russian on 21.285
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17:40 lwq1996 ok, why is irc quiet, irc is never quiet (only exception is the evening but still then its never quiet)
17:40 NeWtoz I dreamed of eating carrots last night
17:41 lwq1996 wow really?!!?!?
17:41 NeWtoz I think so
17:41 * angy-gone tar på Serosters kuk
17:43 lwq1996 wow newtoz your mind is reaky
17:43 Druidic_Rilfeman i have really fucked up dreams
17:43 lwq1996 about fucking your mother, we know
17:43 NeWtoz I hardly remember mine
17:43 lwq1996 you irc us at night
17:44 lwq1996 i love how mom isnt here ^ ^
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17:48 dbshortwave well
17:48 dbshortwave dash is out
17:48 dbshortwave heater core is out
17:48 dbshortwave fuck what a mess
17:49 lwq1996 your doing what to your car?
17:49 dbshortwave heater core while its down
17:49 dbshortwave cause it involves taking the dash out
17:49 lwq1996 ah, and its getting cold out so yo need heat :P
17:49 dbshortwave pretty much
17:50 dbshortwave i also needed a break
17:50 dbshortwave cause im STARVING
17:50 lwq1996 lol
17:52 dbshortwave i need to find the foam insulation for around the doors
17:53 lwq1996 lol
17:56 mashpriborintorg good luck for the fight against the mess of wires looms and crap, car dashes are hiding lots of stuff
17:58 dbshortwave lmao ii already found the 2 "fuck you" harnasses hideing
17:59 mashpriborintorg and since you found them, you still need to get the trick for unmating the plugs :p
18:00 dbshortwave didnt find any "ahh shit" harnasses, and  the " ahh shit" harnessas are the one you gotta fix with buttsplices or solder and tape lol
18:01 dbshortwave oh i got the trick, small tweeker flat head screw driver
18:01 dbshortwave the 2 i had a hard time with are on the passenger side ...
18:02 dbshortwave tey had different releaces
18:03 dbshortwave push down and rock side to side to slide them out
18:03 dbshortwave the fun times going to be putting EVERYTHING BACK
18:03 dbshortwave lol
18:03 mashpriborintorg onto the Toyota Prius, you find more than 100 kinds of connectors... and it's just the number of connectors types, not their total number
18:04 dbshortwave something like 300 or 400 connectors on a toyota
18:04 dbshortwave lol
18:04 dbshortwave i got 2 bulkhead connectors
18:04 dbshortwave they bolt together
18:05 IIsi50MHz Reminds me of labels on electronics from years ago: "No user serviceable parts inside."
18:05 dbshortwave rofl
18:05 dbshortwave yeah
18:05 wannabe1987 ...
18:05 dbshortwave even auto techs go through this moment
18:05 wannabe1987 theres a reason i don't want to take my dash apart....its right there :D
18:06 dbshortwave lol
18:06 * wannabe1987 watches the video sndwrx linked her
18:06 dbshortwave sadly the only reason why i have to take it appart is cause they have not other wat to get to that dog turd in the heaterbox
18:06 Cprossu hrmmm
18:06 mashpriborintorg but after, when you drive the car, you can tell "Ah I know how it is behind the dash"
18:07 Av_Nekoroms http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gold-Silver-Mine-Prescott-AZ-Paystreak-Mine-/270848292182
18:07 dbshortwave when something dont work you think "shit"
18:07 BotSteve Title: Gold & Silver Mine, Prescott, AZ - The Paystreak Mine | eBay
18:07 Av_Nekoroms lol
18:07 Av_Nekoroms :) best stuff at ebay
18:08 wannabe1987 why won't youtube work for me?!
18:08 wannabe1987 hmmm there it goes
18:08 mashpriborintorg will the seller send it in a parcel :p
18:08 Av_Nekoroms :))
18:09 dbshortwave rofl
18:09 mashpriborintorg already saw an unlaunch coms satellite for sale onto ebay...
18:09 dbshortwave on that note
18:09 dbshortwave i better get off my duff and get this dash in before it gets dark
18:09 wannabe1987 lol
18:09 wannabe1987 yes
18:09 wannabe1987 note?  here, have a quarter note :D
18:09 mashpriborintorg good luck
18:10 wannabe1987 how about a dotted eighth note :D  thems quick :D
18:11 wannabe1987 double dotted suck more....
18:11 wannabe1987 then you *really* have to count....
18:14 wannabe1987 sndwrx: you're right, thats beautiful :D
18:18 Druidic_Rilfeman i wonder Mash what kinda coms satalite is it?
18:18 Druidic_Rilfeman TGG could have fun with out own satalite....
18:19 wannabe1987 ...
18:20 mashpriborintorg don't remember exactly, it was a cancelled satellite, from some museum
18:21 mashpriborintorg some great electronics but the price had 5 or 6 digits iirc
18:21 mashpriborintorg not affordable by the regular people :p
18:26 mashpriborintorg tried to get this but I was overbid at the very last minute http://cgi.ebay.fr/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=320801179299&amp;ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649
18:26 BotSteve Title: Tete chercheuse de missile Sovietique NEVA SA- 3 Russian Rocket head en vente sur eBay.fr (fin le 02-déc.-11 09:21:47 Paris)
18:28 mashpriborintorg gf did disapprove anyway
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19:03 lwq1996 ........
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19:03 lwq1996 ..........
19:03 SparkyProjects spam
19:03 lwq1996 im done now
19:04 wannabe1987 lol
19:04 wannabe1987 i was checking the time, i leave in 10 minutes
19:04 lwq1996 i got a hair cut
19:05 wannabe1987 o?
19:05 lwq1996 yup
19:05 lwq1996 i needed it choped
19:05 sndwrx ~o__.__O
19:05 sndwrx \_)--:--/
19:05 sndwrx /     <\
19:06 sndwrx ...
19:06 lwq1996 what the
19:06 wannabe1987 sndwrx you ok over there?
19:06 sndwrx Alignment was off.
19:07 wannabe1987 ah
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19:11 wannabe1987 awwww its toast.  right before i leave until...i'll be back around....7
19:16 angy-gone Toasty!
19:16 angy-gone and I'm gone again
19:16 wannabe-afk bye
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19:48 injektion I need to find a SOG monitor :|
19:51 IIsi50MHz Another persone does!
19:51 IIsi50MHz Yay.
19:51 IIsi50MHz Some LCD monitors can do it.
19:51 IIsi50MHz As I was recently told.
19:51 injektion Why do you need a SOG monitor?
19:52 injektion I need one for an SGI machine :|
19:55 IIsi50MHz I need one for a 680x0 Mac
19:55 IIsi50MHz Haven't chosen one yet, though I did pick up an old LG that I later found out has SOG support; just have to replace a bad cap in the PSU.
19:56 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I have cinnamon toast?
19:56 BotSteve Yep!
19:56 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
19:56 BotSteve Happy to help, Toastdude
19:56 injektion How in the hell do I know if a monitor has sync on green?
19:56 IIsi50MHz Gosub products.google.com and search: sog (monitor
19:57 IIsi50MHz bah, stupid oversized return key...
19:57 injektion I love big return keys
19:57 IIsi50MHz Gosub products.google.com and search: sog (monitor|display) (lcd | tft | flat-panel) -dog
19:58 IIsi50MHz Yes, google thinks searching for "sog" means you want dog-related items.
19:58 injektion Samsung D:
19:59 IIsi50MHz I don't need such a big target for Return, but I do want a larger backspace key, so I can reach it without losing contact with jkl
19:59 IIsi50MHz There's a ViewSonic on the first page, too
19:59 injektion This monitor on the mac pro is view sonic and it has an annoying yellow tint
20:00 IIsi50MHz Well, it's broken :P
20:00 IIsi50MHz Or you have the colour temp set too low.
20:00 injektion Whites don't look white they look off white
20:00 IIsi50MHz Model?
20:00 injektion VX1962wm
20:02 injektion THis supports SOG
20:02 IIsi50MHz Your colour adjustments have four temps.
20:02 IIsi50MHz Also sRGB and Manual.
20:03 injektion Every color adjustment looks awfuk
20:03 injektion awful*
20:04 injektion sRGB looks better but I need to make the display brighter now
20:05 injektion That samsung monitor which lasted me almost 4 years was a good monitor until the cold cathode backlights went out
20:06 IIsi50MHz Hmm, my one display that has an sRGB setting is brightest in that mode. Maybe yours has a backlight +1
20:07 injektion in sRGB mode I cannot adjust the contrast
20:11 injektion Hmm
20:11 injektion I set RGB to 50/50/50
20:14 IIsi50MHz Yeah, if you could change the contrast in sRGB mode, it wouldn't be sRGB any more.
20:15 injektion Where does sRGB get the information to set the contrast?
20:16 IIsi50MHz sRGB is a colour standard. The colours of the monitor should match the emission standard across the whole gamut, I believe.
20:19 injektion mmk
20:21 injektion lol http://i.imgur.com/OKw0v.png
20:23 IIsi50MHz Himmler? O, how the family has fallen.
20:44 Toastdude *silence*
20:45 dbshortwave i keeeel you
20:45 dbshortwave knock knock
20:45 Toastdude Yello
20:46 dbshortwave me i kill you
20:46 Toastdude Aw...
20:46 Toastdude Lol
20:46 dbshortwave lol
20:46 Toastdude Silence! I keel you!
20:47 dbshortwave man what a mess this day has been
20:54 Toastdude What happened?
20:55 dbshortwave well i tackled the heater core
20:55 dbshortwave its in hooked up the dash is back in
20:56 dbshortwave ive got a few other parts that need to be re attached
20:56 dbshortwave before the kick panels can go back in
20:56 dbshortwave if i want to put them in lol
20:58 Toastdude lol
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21:03 masterofmonks Morning RAY13THOMAS
21:03 RAY13THOMAS Hi.
21:04 RAY13THOMAS I don't see a video, just the chat area.  Did I do something wrong?
21:05 SparkyProjects I don't think the embed works, go here http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup
21:05 BotSteve Title: Thegeekgroup on Justin.tv
21:05 RAY13THOMAS Thanks, will do.
21:05 masterofmonks Of course you can hang around here and chat too.
21:06 Toastdude Hi RAY13THOMAS
21:06 GuardianZozo yo
21:07 Toastdude Hi GuardianZozo
21:08 GuardianZozo hows it going?
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21:08 Toastdude Good
21:08 Toastdude You?
21:08 Toastdude Hi Jess
21:08 KawaiiJess Sup gangsta
21:09 RAY13THOMAS I was on another page for a couple minuets Toastdude, but hi back to you.
21:09 GuardianZozo going alright, cant complain lol
21:09 Toastdude Good lol
21:09 Toastdude Lol Jess
21:09 KawaiiJess What nyukka?
21:12 RAY13THOMAS Does anyone know if there is a facility near Panama City Florida where we can work on projects?
21:12 Katemonster define "near"
21:12 Katemonster .define near
21:12 BotSteve near — preposition: 1. close to, in close proximity to, 2. close to in time — verb: 1. To decrease the distance to something — adjective: 1. (of an animate or inanimate object) physically close, 2. (of an event) approaching — adverb: 1. Having a small intervening distance with regard to[...]
21:13 RAY13THOMAS Within 50 miles.
21:13 Katemonster /shrug
21:14 RAY13THOMAS This is my first time on the group and I see you can get some various answers to any question.
21:16 sndwrx RAY13THOMAS: According to hackerspaces.org, there's one in Tallahassee.
21:17 sndwrx There's a Hacker Drive in Panama City.  Perhaps you should consider looking at available spaces.  ;)
21:18 sndwrx Sorry, it's Hacker Lane.
21:18 sndwrx And appears to be residential.
21:18 RAY13THOMAS Thanks, Tallahassee is about 90 miles from wher I live, but I will check into it.
21:19 sndwrx RAY13THOMAS: http://hackerspaces.org/wiki/Tallahassee_Hackerspace
21:19 BotSteve Title: Tallahassee Hackerspace - HackerspaceWiki
21:20 sndwrx haha, "Number of members:  3+ and counting."
21:20 masterofmonks sndwrx: that is nowhere near panama city.
21:21 sndwrx masterofmonks: Naples is "nowhere near Panama City".
21:21 sndwrx masterofmonks: Tallahassee isn't /all/ that far.
21:22 masterofmonks 103 miles.
21:22 sndwrx Regardless, it's the only one I found anywhere near Panama City with a three second search.
21:23 sndwrx That isn't too bad.  People travel from Detroit to Grand Rapids for TGG.  That's roughly 150 miles.
21:23 sndwrx Cprossu travels from Arizona.  :P
21:23 masterofmonks Cprossu: is an exception.
21:23 RAY13THOMAS I actually live 30 miles north of PC.  The map shows the location of the site as on HW 20 just west of Tahallassee.  I will try to contact.
21:24 masterofmonks RAY13THOMAS: The other option is start your own.
21:25 RAY13THOMAS True, I have a lot of equipment but little space for actual work.  I hope to build a shop in the future.
21:25 * sndwrx coughs, "Hacker Lane, Panama City."
21:25 * sndwrx chuckles.
21:26 masterofmonks Put an as up on Craigslist looking for members.
21:26 RAY13THOMAS Got to go.  Thanks all.
21:37 GuardianZozo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mghhLqu31cQ
21:37 BotSteve Title: The GAG Quartet - le Internet Medley (OVER 40 MEMES IN ONE SONG) - YouTube
21:41 sndwrx laah, laa-laah
21:41 * sndwrx snickers.
21:44 dbshortwave i need a shower
21:47 GuardianZozo i had to share that link =)
21:49 * angy-gone pokes injektion
21:55 Toastdude Angy!
21:55 angy-gone Toasty!
21:59 * Toastdude hugs angy-gone
22:00 * angy-gone hugs Toastdude
22:00 Toastdude Thanks for sharing that GuardianZozo, that was pretty epic :D
22:00 GuardianZozo no prob =)
22:01 GuardianZozo i got a list of videos most dont know about that are really good if you ever want more
22:05 Toastdude Sure, go ahead! :P
22:05 injektion hi
22:07 GuardianZozo this video has to be my fav
22:07 GuardianZozo i laugh my ass off every time
22:07 GuardianZozo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sTkEfrdErs&amp;list=FLVw_vEUyLywjXunv6QWV7_w&amp;index=19&amp;feature=plpp_video
22:07 BotSteve Title: Wrong Hole with DJ Lubel, Taryn Southern and Scott Baio - YouTube
22:08 angy-gone and I'm gone again!
22:08 sndwrx Scott Baio?  Seriously?  hahahah.
22:10 GuardianZozo hehehehe
22:11 sndwrx He hasn't been in front of a camera since Charles in Charge, and his first appearance is this?
22:11 sndwrx Poor guy.
22:15 Toastdude lol, wow...
22:27 sndwrx Well, that was pretty darn good.
22:27 sndwrx Chili turned out a titch thinner than I ahd wanted, so I mixed in some dirty rice.
22:27 sndwrx Ended up just perfect.
22:44 sndwrx It's been pretty quiet in here for quite a while.
22:45 GuardianZozo youtube and making my minecraft D&D style server is keeping me busy lol
22:45 sndwrx Dungeons and Dragons style Minecraft server?
22:45 GuardianZozo yup yup
22:45 sndwrx ha
22:46 GuardianZozo dont know fully how its going to work yet but we are making dungeons for people to explore and gain items
22:46 sndwrx nice.
22:47 GuardianZozo while theres going to be different towns people can live in and get bonuses depending on where the city is located
22:48 GuardianZozo needless to say its alot of work since im the only one working on starting it up lol
22:48 sndwrx Oh yeah?
22:48 sndwrx How many people currently play on your server?
22:49 GuardianZozo right now my main server is dead with most of my members getting ready for college exams no one hads been on
22:50 * sndwrx nods.
22:50 GuardianZozo thats why im building this new server
22:50 GuardianZozo as far as i know no one has done a server like this (to this degree that is)
22:51 GuardianZozo so it hopefully will be something new for MC players to try out
22:51 sndwrx Sounds cool.
22:52 GuardianZozo well if you are a builder and are bored i can always use more help getting the server buildings done (like the spawn area)
22:53 injektion Did anyone make a PS/2 mouse that didn't suck?
22:53 sndwrx I've never played Minecraft, but thanks for the invitation.  :)
22:53 GuardianZozo if you havent played, dont
22:53 GuardianZozo its crack
22:54 sndwrx injektion Yeah, the Logitech Trackman Vista.  :P
22:54 GuardianZozo ive played almost every day for little over a year now, and im still not bored of it
22:55 injektion sndwrx, Does it have 3 buttons?
22:55 sndwrx Looks like it has some fun things to do, but I just haven't gotten into it.
22:55 sndwrx injektion: Yes, but no scroll wheel.
22:59 injektion Hmm
23:00 Seroster Soundworks and injection! YAY!
23:04 sndwrx Hey, what's up Seroster ?
23:05 Electricguy i made a 7 segment display with BCD encoder and clock sequencer in minecraft XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3SqK9DBoJU
23:05 BotSteve Title: Minecraft 7 segment display with BCD encoder! - YouTube
23:05 Electricguy pretty shitty video, but ye
23:07 sndwrx haha, nice.
23:07 Electricguy hehehe :P
23:12 GuardianZozo Electricguy, you should come see some of the stuff we have on my server
23:13 Electricguy oh? what is it? :P
23:13 Electricguy some really complex redstone stuff or just buildings? :)
23:13 GuardianZozo animation, scoreboards, miles of redstone controlling things
23:13 GuardianZozo me and my other admin are both addicted to redstone
23:14 Electricguy hahaha sounds cool :D
23:14 GuardianZozo ill give ya a tour when ever ya wanna stop by
23:14 Electricguy hmmm, is it free to build on the server? susrvival or creative mode? :)
23:14 sndwrx You have an animated Nyan cat sky dome, don't you?
23:14 Toastdude Hi Seroster
23:14 GuardianZozo =)
23:15 GuardianZozo its a survival style creative server
23:15 injektion Debating if I should buy a model M keyboard
23:15 Toastdude "Ms. Bitters, I have a MIGHTY NEED to use the restroom once again."
23:15 GuardianZozo you can make anything if you can get the supplies
23:15 Electricguy hehe okey :P
23:15 Toastdude XD
23:15 Electricguy ahh i see. so no /give huh? :P
23:15 GuardianZozo you could mine for it or help out a mod/admin with something and get paid
23:16 GuardianZozo only mods have that currently
23:17 Electricguy hrm okey. damn. not extremely fun to make big ass things if you don't have shitloads of supplies for it :)
23:17 GuardianZozo ive always had the belief that if you work to get the stuff then work to build it, you care about it more and are more proud of it
23:18 GuardianZozo well things like redstone we have something odd for
23:18 GuardianZozo like if you want to test a circuit design we have a world for that thats creative
23:18 Electricguy hehehe okey
23:19 Electricguy i would probably just stick to that one all the time... XD
23:19 GuardianZozo we also have a building design contest world thats also a creative world
23:19 GuardianZozo theres about 11 maps on my main server
23:19 Electricguy mkay
23:19 Seroster Took a shower
23:19 Electricguy oh, hehe okey :)
23:19 Electricguy where is the server located?
23:20 Electricguy thinking about lag and that
23:20 dbshortwave i noticed a bad oder had gone away
23:20 GuardianZozo its in north carolina, hooked up to a ISP backbone connection
23:20 Electricguy mkay
23:21 GuardianZozo so the server has access to 1Gbps not that it would even ever use 100Mbps lol
23:21 Electricguy well, handle me the server addy and i'll check it out tomorrow or sometime :)
23:21 GuardianZozo .minecraft
23:21 BotSteve The 'official' TGG minecraft server address is: gamerxreviews.net (online)
23:21 Electricguy ahh
23:22 GuardianZozo send me a PM when ya come on if ya want the tour, theres alot to see but its not all near spawn
23:23 Electricguy okey! :)
23:24 sndwrx Has anyone caught wind of another b1g1 promotion for Minecraft, like when he got married?
23:27 GuardianZozo nope
23:28 sndwrx That's probably the only way I'll play it, if a buddy and I can split the cost.
23:28 sndwrx I just don't put enough time into games to justify expense.
23:30 GuardianZozo its like 20 bucks
23:31 sndwrx Not worth $20 to me.
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23:43 sndwrx Honestly, I play maybe 10 minutes of games a year.
23:45 lwq1996 i play about 5hours a year
23:45 injektion I play a lot of TF2
23:45 lwq1996 not including little browser based ones i play durring school
23:45 lwq1996 tf2
23:45 lwq1996 ?
23:45 injektion Team Fortress 2
23:45 sndwrx hey egrsteve.
23:46 lwq1996 oh
23:46 lwq1996 steve! hi
23:46 egrsteve g' morning all
23:46 Toastdude Hi
23:47 Seroster This is boring and a far too slow chat. Let's make it interesting. Wich is vastly superior, a tube amp or solid state?   Btw, a plane CAN take off from a conveyor belt.
23:47 injektion tube amp
23:47 * Seroster giggles and runs away
23:47 sndwrx Vinyl or CD?
23:47 Seroster Both! At the same time!
23:48 Toastdude Wheels move independantly from the engine, so I don't see why it wouldn't be able to
23:48 Toastdude :P
23:48 dbshortwave tube amp all the way
23:48 Seroster Toastdude, BUT LIFT DEWD
23:48 Seroster N tube amps are like old n shit, new must be better, eh? =D
23:50 dbshortwave yeah well fuck transister.. i love my 30 watt tube amps
23:51 dbshortwave unless you want half the town to hear you
23:51 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: There comes a point where the friction of the wheel bearings overcomes the thrust of the engines. Almost immediately afterwards, the plane melts a hole through the earth and we all die.
23:51 injektion I like tube amps due to their analogue warmness
23:51 dbshortwave then i would go with the transisters
23:52 dbshortwave i have a darlington  amp here 50 watt amp in total 25X25 its loud but like my 2 tube amps
23:53 dbshortwave not*
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23:56 sndwrx I had three and a half bowls of chili a little more than an hour ago, and now I want dessert.
23:56 dbshortwave ohhh man good thing im not a fly on your wall
23:56 dbshortwave lol
23:56 Electricguy bedtime! night night
23:56 * sndwrx snickers.
23:57 sndwrx Night Electricguy.
23:59 dbshortwave LMAO i love M*A*S*H
23:59 sndwrx I haven't seen M*A*S*H in probably 25 years, and the instant I read that, the theme song and opening video popped into my head.
23:59 dbshortwave hehe

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