Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-07

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00:02 Ponko BotSteve: should i leave chat on?
00:02 BotSteve Maybe
00:02 Ponko BotSteve: should i leave chat on?
00:02 BotSteve Maybe
00:03 * Ponko sighs
00:03 egrsteve|away better stay then
00:03 tlockley No, they are composite video over balun
00:03 Ponko BotSteve: should i go to sleep
00:03 BotSteve Not a chance
00:03 tlockley egrsteve|away could explain better though Coderjoe
00:03 Coderjoe alright, so a PoE switch wouldn't be any use
00:03 Ponko oh great
00:03 Coderjoe (for the cameras at least)
00:03 tlockley yes
00:03 tlockley but PoE switches are awsome to have
00:03 egrsteve a POE switch has uses but not for cameras (yet)
00:03 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
00:04 BotSteve At 06 Dec 08:56Z, Cprossu asked me to tell egrsteve anything interesting in that truckload of stuff with the desk/rackmount combo? Also what is object at 15:18 on the floor below the CRT monitor on the latest captain's blog?
00:04 egrsteve we do have POE access points
00:04 Ponko BotSteve: should i leave the 10 video hour video running?
00:04 BotSteve Nope
00:04 Ponko he's so not fun right now
00:04 Ponko give it 5 mins
00:04 egrsteve cprossu, I have not had time to watch the blog yet so idk
00:06 Ponko BotSteve: should i go to sleep
00:06 BotSteve Ask again later!
00:06 Ponko -_-
00:06 * Ponko headdesk
00:07 Ponko BotSteve: should i leave the 10 video hour video running?
00:07 BotSteve Maybe
00:08 Ponko ok i'll flip a coin
00:08 Ponko .coin
00:08 BotSteve Tails!
00:09 * KawaiiJess one ups Ponko and flips a colossal gelatinous cube
00:09 * Ponko gets the hell out of the way
00:09 KawaiiJess xD
00:10 Ponko .coin
00:10 BotSteve Tails!
00:10 Ponko aha that's perfect i can leave the chat AND sleep
00:11 Ponko yeah don't celebrate to soon
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00:13 Toastdude PONKY
00:14 Ponko oh bollocks
00:14 Ponko i mean hai toasty
00:14 Toastdude Aw... :(
00:14 Ponko ,k
00:14 Ponko lol
00:14 Toastdude :P
00:16 Ponko BotSteve: tell BatSteve that ponky wants you to watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-wEgcKbaO0 and he wants me to mention that you are in the video @ 0:49 :)
00:16 BotSteve Ponko: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
00:16 BotSteve Title: LITERAL Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 Trailer - YouTube
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00:19 Toastdude Anyone here?
00:20 Coderjoe egrsteve: btw, if I remember correctly, a breaker shouldn't have more than 80% of the rated current continuously. (15A breaker with 12A max continuous, 20A breaker with 16A continuous, etc)
00:21 egrsteve that sounds about rigt
00:21 Coderjoe (watching the 11/26 blog vid where you built the camera breaker box)
00:22 Toastdude Hi Steve and Coderjoe
00:22 Monkeh Which is kinda silly.
00:22 egrsteve yes, thats why I was a bit unsure how many cameras a 2 amp breaker will supply
00:23 Toastdude Does Joe Simon ever come on here?
00:23 egrsteve not that I can think of
00:24 Monkeh egrsteve: Why is it your breakers are rated like that?
00:25 egrsteve they is a diff between US and EU rating system
00:25 Monkeh egrsteve: I know that.
00:25 egrsteve US rates to trip at stated voltage, EU to hold
00:25 Monkeh I'd love to hear a sensible reason for a 6A breaker not actually being rated for 6A continuous.
00:25 egrsteve it's also the same with fuses
00:26 egrsteve I can't remember the acrediting organizations
00:26 Monkeh egrsteve: So you have two numbers instead of one. It's.. just... why?
00:27 egrsteve not 2 numbers it's just rated at trip not hold
00:27 Monkeh egrsteve: Well if it's a 6A breaker it should be able to supply a 6A load.
00:27 Monkeh If it can only supply a 4A load then it's not a 6A breaker.
00:27 egrsteve so if you don't want it to trip prematurly you only load it about 80%
00:27 egrsteve but it's designed to trip at 6
00:27 Monkeh You don't rate wire for the current it melts at and then say 'so only pass 80% of that'
00:28 Monkeh You rate it for what it's capable of carrying.
00:28 egrsteve its the way they do it here
00:28 egrsteve idk why
00:28 Monkeh Yeah, and it's just.. so odd and backwards
00:28 Monkeh Especially as there's a curve on the tripping time.
00:29 egrsteve those were ___ ____ multi 9s so they may be rated at hold not trip
00:29 egrsteve carloz garo*$&^^
00:29 Monkeh Oh, the ones you were using?
00:29 Monkeh Err..
00:29 egrsteve as they are used internationally
00:29 egrsteve and made in europe
00:29 egrsteve probably by schnider elec
00:29 Monkeh I know exactly the ones they were I just can't recall the name
00:30 Coderjoe ah, well then
00:30 egrsteve same here
00:30 Monkeh egrsteve: Merlin Gerin.
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00:30 egrsteve ya thats it
00:30 Monkeh Odd name
00:30 Monkeh Really nice stuff, though
00:30 egrsteve umm, depends merlin makes some crap too
00:30 Monkeh And yes, Schneider bought them out a while back as I recall
00:30 Toastdude wannabe!
00:31 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
00:31 Monkeh egrsteve: Well their electrical distribution stuff is generally good.]
00:31 Toastdude :D
00:31 * Toastdude hugs wannabe1987
00:31 wannabe1987 o.O
00:31 * wannabe1987 hugs Toastdude back
00:31 egrsteve I think most of it is made by schnider elec and re-branded
00:31 Monkeh egrsteve: The only complaints I've heard of are some of their quick-connect systems being annoying
00:32 egrsteve schnider owns everyone else
00:32 egrsteve why not make it for them too
00:32 Monkeh egrsteve: The clip-in stuff rather than screwing onto a busbar.
00:32 egrsteve can't say I have used the QCs
00:32 Monkeh From what I've heard, don't
00:32 Monkeh And I have a major problem with those designs anyway
00:32 egrsteve I work with mostly dinrail mount stuff
00:33 Monkeh You can't fit standard DIN accessories to those enclosures
00:33 Monkeh And that just plain sucks when you want something like a contactor or a transformer in there.
00:33 egrsteve clips are nice for signal stuff but not power
00:34 egrsteve most enclosures I deal with are custom built, hoffman or saginaw control
00:35 Monkeh egrsteve: I was actually kinda surprised to see DIN rail.
00:35 egrsteve in what I was building
00:35 Monkeh I hardly ever see that stuff from the US
00:35 egrsteve I added that to the box
00:35 Monkeh I know
00:35 wannabe1987 why is it getting colder?
00:35 Coderjoe one company I worked for used din like crazy
00:35 Monkeh Kinda surprised me that you had it on hand, common, sensible standards seem to elude you guys sometimes ;)
00:36 egrsteve it's very common in industrial control cabinates not power dist for buildings though
00:36 Coderjoe and Kegel uses din rails for mounting the omron stuff in their lane oiling machines
00:36 egrsteve it was used dinrail
00:36 * dbshortwave discharges a little statck build up on Wannabe1987 an walks away
00:36 Monkeh egrsteve: Used is the best kind
00:36 dbshortwave staic^
00:36 * wannabe1987 calls dbshortwave a tesla :P
00:36 dbshortwave ;D
00:36 Monkeh egrsteve: I could go out and salvage shitloads of useful lengths of the stuff from old, disused equipment if I needed it
00:36 wannabe1987 static*
00:37 egrsteve we have piles of used industrial controls
00:37 egrsteve sometime I will be building the controls for mooses vacume chamber
00:37 Monkeh Only problem I have with the stuff is I still haven't seen any proper mountable joints which don't look like silly, easily breakable plastic toys.
00:37 egrsteve I have a 120V contactor with motor overload protector
00:37 egrsteve and a pressure switch
00:37 egrsteve I just need a box to put it in
00:38 Monkeh You haven't got one to hand?
00:38 egrsteve joints for what
00:38 Monkeh egrsteve: Cables.
00:38 egrsteve ah yes
00:38 egrsteve no good cable conectors
00:39 wannabe1987 holy crap
00:39 wannabe1987 23 likes on my status o.O
00:39 Monkeh They're all these things: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wiki​pedia/commons/0/00/Din_rail.jpg
00:39 * egrsteve shoots cow pie
00:39 Toastdude What was your status?
00:39 egrsteve ah yes, use those too at work allen Bradly terminal blocks
00:40 Monkeh egrsteve: They all look like I'd break them if I tried to put a 6mm solid (er, in your money, a bit bigger than 10AWG) conductor in and tighten it properly.
00:40 Coderjoe I worked at bepco for a bit and they use AB a lot
00:40 egrsteve I though they were rated for 8awg
00:40 egrsteve I know we put 10 awg in ground terminals
00:41 Monkeh egrsteve: I dunno, they vary, but I've dealt with even bigger than that, and I swear it'd break those things.
00:41 Monkeh egrsteve: 7 and even 5AWG are common over here.
00:41 egrsteve interesting
00:41 Monkeh And near as damn to 3AWG for big stuff or long runs
00:42 egrsteve they make different versions with different ratings I know
00:42 Monkeh Once you reach that point you start thinking 'uuh, let's change the voltage'
00:42 egrsteve ya, we don't use din rail for infistructure dist, just on machine
00:43 egrsteve even at that very little of the high current ends up on blocks
00:43 wannabe1987 sorry, didn't see it
00:43 wannabe1987 it said i had a job
00:43 wannabe1987 duh
00:44 Toastdude Oh, that one... lol
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00:45 Monkeh egrsteve: If you've ever handled 25mm SWA or similar (3AWG solid-conductor, three core, steel armour), you'll know what a pig the stuff is.
00:45 NeWtoz I had a fun day at the lab today...
00:46 egrsteve never 3 solid, just 0000 stranded
00:46 wannabe1987 yeah?
00:46 wannabe1987 we saw, NeWtoz
00:47 Monkeh egrsteve: 0000 as in 107mm?
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00:47 egrsteve 0000 welding cable
00:47 egrsteve about 1" or 2.5cm dia
00:47 egrsteve no .46"
00:47 Monkeh egrsteve: I'm talking area
00:48 Monkeh Diameter is not that useful
00:48 egrsteve I suppose not
00:48 NeWtoz one can be used to find the other
00:48 Monkeh I just can't type superscript 2 right now.
00:48 egrsteve 107mm^2 correc
00:48 Monkeh egrsteve: That is.. obnoxious.
00:48 egrsteve and heavy
00:49 Toastdude Monkeh: ²
00:49 Monkeh Probably about the same weight as this SWA.
00:49 Monkeh Toastdude: Thank you.
00:49 Monkeh Please hold while I stab my DM in the face with a pickaxe.
00:49 Toastdude Lol, you're welcome
00:50 Monkeh ²
00:50 Monkeh There we go.
00:50 Monkeh That's.. actually a really annoying way to do it.
00:51 Monkeh Windows is actually easier, even if it does require remembering a code..
00:51 Toastdude What client do you use Monkeh?
00:51 Monkeh Toastdude: Client?
00:51 Toastdude IRC client
00:52 Toastdude Like X-chat or mIRC
00:52 Monkeh XChat, why?
00:52 Toastdude I'm guessing you're using the web client
00:52 Toastdude Or really?
00:52 Toastdude Do you have a "Window" menu?
00:52 wannabe1987 BotSteve
00:52 Monkeh Yes, it has a character chart, that's even slower and more annoying that a compose key.
00:52 Toastdude Oh, okay
00:53 Monkeh I do not use a GUI to replace my keyboard, I use it to augment.
00:53 Toastdude That's what I used.. lol
00:53 Monkeh I refuse to go clicking through menus to do something as simple as type a superscript character.
00:53 Toastdude I need a Unicode enterer thing
00:54 Monkeh I kinda like the Windows way
00:54 Monkeh It's really, really fast once you get used to the codes.
00:54 Toastdude Which is what?
00:54 Monkeh Toastdude: alt+character code
00:54 Monkeh Toastdude: alt+0178 for ²
00:55 Toastdude sn't w6r25ng f6r 0e...
00:55 Toastdude ...
00:55 Toastdude Isn't working for me *
00:55 wannabe1987 Toastdude: http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot​os-ak-snc7/381549_101091026675060_10​0827020034794_4062_1503357832_n.jpg
00:56 wannabe1987 dbshortwave: http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot​os-ak-snc7/381549_101091026675060_10​0827020034794_4062_1503357832_n.jpg
00:56 Toastdude lol
00:56 Monkeh Toastdude: Are you on Windows?
00:56 Toastdude Yes, XP
00:56 * Toastdude can't see XP without seeing the face first
00:56 Monkeh Should work fine.
00:57 Monkeh You ARE holding alt, right?
00:57 Monkeh Hold and type the full code, then release
00:57 Toastdude Yes
00:57 dbshortwave LOL
00:57 dbshortwave cute
00:57 Monkeh Toastdude: Eh, you're doing it wrong somewhere. :P
00:57 Toastdude Probably... :P
01:02 wannabe1987 lol
01:02 wannabe1987 typical toast?
01:07 Toastdude -_-
01:07 wannabe1987 sorry! :P
01:08 Toastdude :P
01:08 Toastdude ...ouch...
01:08 wannabe1987 sorry, was that your foot?
01:08 Toastdude Nope, that was my feelings.
01:08 wannabe1987 oooo
01:08 * wannabe1987 hugs Toastdude's feelings
01:09 * Toastdude 's feeling feel better :P
01:09 Toastdude feelings *
01:11 wannabe1987 good
01:11 * Toastdude huigs wannabe
01:11 Toastdude ...................
01:11 wannabe1987 i've been huiged!
01:11 * Toastdude hugs wannabe
01:11 wannabe1987 .define huig
01:11 BotSteve huig — noun: 1. uvula (appendage that hangs from the palate)
01:12 wannabe1987 LOL
01:12 wannabe1987 thanks :P
01:12 * Toastdude unhuigs wannabe quickly
01:12 wannabe1987 lol
01:12 Toastdude :P
01:15 Toastdude Noooooooooooo!!!!!!!!
01:16 SaWzall this will make sense in due time
01:18 Gbnfgqhqr So will this
01:18 Gbnfgqhqr Wow............
01:18 wannabe1987 so, SaWzall, does it saw all?
01:18 Gbnfgqhqr Sawzall...
01:19 SaWzall maybe
01:19 Gbnfgqhqr Does my nick make any sense?
01:20 dbshortwave nope
01:20 wannabe1987 no
01:20 wannabe1987 just like you!
01:20 dbshortwave me?
01:21 wannabe1987 no, toast
01:21 Gbnfgqhqr Trololololol lololol lololol trolololololol!
01:21 dbshortwave oh
01:21 Gbnfgqhqr Anyone?
01:21 dbshortwave .pie
01:21 BotSteve Here you go, dbshortwave, I made you a 3.14 math pie!
01:21 dbshortwave lmao
01:21 Gbnfgqhqr :D
01:23 Gbnfgqhqr Try decoding in any way
01:25 dbshortwave thinking about making chocolates
01:25 Monkeh Gbnfgqhqr: ROT13 is so old. :P
01:26 wannabe1987 wel, its not dvorak :P
01:26 Gbnfgqhqr Yes, so?  :P
01:30 riffing naaa
01:30 TomServo you kidding?
01:31 TomServo lmao
01:32 wannabe1987 Gbnfgqhqr you said you play(ed) violin?
01:33 dbshortwave brb i need to reboot i moved something
01:33 Gbnfgqhqr Yes
01:33 Gbnfgqhqr Bye db
01:33 wannabe1987 take a look at next semesters music: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5225​9525/vw%205%20violin%202.pdf
01:34 Gbnfgqhqr //huh....
01:34 Gbnfgqhqr lol
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01:36 wannabe1987 wb
01:36 dbshortwave thanks
01:36 dbshortwave i moved my griffin
01:38 dbshortwave joined #thegeekgroup
01:39 Sgt_Lemming yay
01:39 Sgt_Lemming decent amount of rain here in the last 12 hours
01:40 wannabe1987 define decent
01:41 Sgt_Lemming couple of inches
01:41 Gbnfgqhqr Brb
01:42 Sgt_Lemming http://www.fmylife.com/intimacy/3950301
01:42 BotSteve Title: FML: I was standing by the bed naked, waiting for my wife to come out of the bathroom. She opens the...
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01:45 wannabe1987 hi tesla4d
01:46 Rahlon joined #thegeekgroup
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01:51 BotSteve TOASTY!
01:51 Toastdude BOTSTEVE!
01:52 dbshortwave http://www.fmylife.com/animals/18444351
01:52 BotSteve Title: FML: I got kicked in the crotch by a horse in my backyard. I don't own a horse....
01:52 lwq1996 um im so bored
01:52 Toastdude Lee!
01:52 lwq1996 ugh*
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02:02 Toastdude .
02:02 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude, lee
02:03 lwq1996 creepy i was just about to message you 0.o
02:03 Toastdude I'm not liking my computer right now...
02:03 wannabe1987 lol
02:03 lwq1996 we need to give computers to the poor, i vote toastdude first
02:03 Toastdude lol
02:07 Toastdude urxabZ ,fvug ghbon jbU?
02:07 Toastdude Monkeh ^
02:07 * lwq1996 jumps and hugs wannae
02:07 Toastdude wannae!
02:08 dbshortwave lee?
02:08 dbshortwave was this you ?
02:08 dbshortwave http://www.fmylife.com/miscellaneous/8905229
02:08 BotSteve Title: FML: I was really bored and decided to annoy my mom while she was doing the dishes. I walked up behind...
02:08 Toastdude LOL
02:08 Toastdude ouch......
02:09 dbshortwave rofl
02:10 wannabe1987 lwq1996: if you can't spell my name correctly i won't get notified
02:10 lwq1996 pretty much yes
02:11 * lwq1996 didnt notice
02:11 * lwq1996 jumps and hugs wannabe
02:11 wannabe1987 hi lee :)
02:11 SaWzall wa <tab>
02:11 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell BatSteve https://gist.github.com/6307144ff402dfbd0d7f
02:12 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
02:12 SaWzall so easy
02:12 BotSteve Title: Toastdude's gist: 6307144ff402dfbd0d7f — Gist
02:12 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
02:12 BotSteve You're welcome, Toastdude
02:12 Toastdude not even SaWzall.. just w <tab>
02:13 SaWzall well, yeah, but I was going for more of a general rule
02:13 Toastdude lol
02:14 Toastdude ...... http://www.fmylife.com/work/8902353
02:14 BotSteve Title: FML: at work, I had toast thrown at me by an old Vietnam vet. Who also happens to have a dead cat in his...
02:17 Toastdude was that you, wannabe1987? :P
02:17 wannabe1987 huh?
02:17 lwq1996 i thought you got a job wannabe1987 http://www.fmylife.com/money/18442562
02:17 BotSteve Title: FML: a 65 year old toothless gas station attendant asked me out on a date in exchange for free gas, and...
02:17 wannabe1987 i pay for my gas, thank you very much
02:17 lwq1996 no you got to read the whole joke...click the link
02:18 wannabe1987 I READ IT ON THE SITE
02:18 lwq1996 oh :(
02:18 * lwq1996 goes away becuase wannabe bitched at him
02:18 wannabe1987 don't assuem i don't click or read things
02:18 wannabe1987 and why would i go on a date w/ a 65 year old?!  i have standards!
02:19 Toastdude lol
02:19 * lwq1996 /ignore wannabe?
02:19 Toastdude No!
02:20 wannabe1987 if he really wants to, he can, but then he'll miss 1/2 the convo :P
02:20 Toastdude True... :P
02:20 * lwq1996 ignore toastdude and wannabe?
02:20 wannabe1987 you can dow hat you want
02:20 Toastdude Go ahead
02:20 wannabe1987 then you'll miss more than 1/2 the convo :P
02:20 * Toastdude /ignore Lee?
02:20 Toastdude :P
02:21 lwq1996 do it toast
02:21 Toastdude k
02:22 Toastdude Hi Lee
02:24 Toastdude Hello Lee
02:24 wannabe1987 lwq1996
02:25 Sgt_Lemming http://www.fmylife.com/tops?page=43
02:25 BotSteve Title: FML: Your everyday life stories
02:25 Sgt_Lemming gah
02:25 Sgt_Lemming wrong link
02:25 Sgt_Lemming http://www.fmylife.com/love/1002619
02:25 BotSteve Title: FML: I had dinner with the girl I thought I would end up marrying. Everything was going well and after I...
02:26 wannabe1987 lol
02:27 Toastdude lol
02:27 * lwq1996 /unignores toastdude and wannabe
02:27 wannabe1987 feel better now?
02:28 * lwq1996 still thinks wannabe is a bitch -.-
02:28 wannabe1987 i'm not, but ok
02:29 Toastdude Wannabe is not a bitch!
02:29 Toastdude Not even close to one..
02:29 dbshortwave >.>
02:29 dbshortwave wow really?
02:29 wannabe1987 <.<
02:29 wannabe1987 yep
02:29 dbshortwave >.>
02:29 yNos lol
02:29 Monkeh|Lap Toastdude: Dude, please, that I can work out without even having to 'decode' it. :P
02:29 wannabe1987 because lee doesn't think, i'ma  bitch.....
02:30 Toastdude I know, idc, but I made it in Python.. :P
02:30 lwq1996 made what toast
02:30 Monkeh|Lap Toastdude: In a few years, 12 year olds will be doing that. :P
02:30 Monkeh|Lap Toastdude: Please, no, don't tell him.
02:30 Toastdude Aw, okay
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02:30 yNos So, i am guessing it is old news.. we had a few city blocks evacuated, Moose, Batman, NeWtoz, Omni and I were camped out freezing our butts off at geekhouse5.. good times!
02:30 Toastdude ...
02:31 Toastdude lol
02:31 Toastdude Hi yNos!
02:31 yNos Hi
02:31 Monkeh|Lap yNos: I await the blog to find out what happened.
02:31 wannabe1987 yeah, saw/heard aobut that.  where was boden?
02:31 wannabe1987 where was the leak?
02:31 dbshortwave lol yNos what caused that?
02:31 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Dealing with the news crews I imagine
02:31 yNos downstairs,, near the stairwell
02:31 SaWzall :)
02:31 Monkeh|Lap dbshortwave: Gas leak
02:31 yNos LORF
02:31 dbshortwave oh fun
02:31 yNos SaWzall FTW
02:32 dbshortwave -.-
02:32 Cprossu yNos sucks making the news _that_ way too
02:32 dbshortwave some crack head stole the gas pipes
02:32 Monkeh|Lap yNos: We saw it on the stream
02:32 yNos it was funa
02:32 SaWzall I saw it too!
02:32 Cprossu speaking of which that cut should be up by now.
02:32 yNos yea?
02:32 yNos kinda up close?
02:32 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Do we get any video of the current state of the geekhouse?
02:33 Toastdude cnyurxabztavbtgvfjbubf
02:33 yNos umm
02:33 yNos we need to have a wrecking party
02:33 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Get me a plane ticket, man!
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02:33 Monkeh|Lap I'll gut it and rebuild it by myself
02:33 * Monkeh|Lap somewhat bored down here
02:33 yNos we need a day of like.. 30 people with hammers and wonderbars.
02:33 SaWzall I definitely want to help with that house
02:34 SaWzall I like working on houses more then old YMCAs
02:34 Monkeh|Lap SaWzall: I'm not sure which is worse myself.
02:34 Monkeh|Lap SaWzall: An old house some arse has fucked up, or a large industrial building one has fucked up.. :)
02:34 Monkeh|Lap SaWzall: At least the lab isn't going to fall over because of it.
02:35 dbshortwave isnt the lab a fall out shelter?
02:35 dbshortwave lol
02:35 yNos part of it was
02:35 dbshortwave wow
02:35 dbshortwave awesome
02:35 yNos it doesnt have any of the cool plques anymore.
02:35 Monkeh|Lap Explains how deep it is
02:35 dbshortwave awww
02:36 dbshortwave need to get some
02:36 yNos Monkeh|Lap: i think you are confusing a fallout shelter with a blast shelter.
02:36 yNos a fallout shelter can be above ground.
02:36 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Point.
02:36 yNos at least back thenm
02:36 Cprossu http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/301879741
02:36 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Still, depth is not a bad thing.
02:36 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv
02:37 Cprossu 26 minutes or so the fun is visible
02:37 yNos i need to get to bed.
02:37 Monkeh|Lap yNos: I'm in bed. :)
02:37 yNos g'night all
02:37 Monkeh|Lap Oh, wow, so it was a contractor? Great.
02:38 * yNos waves
02:38 Monkeh|Lap Night yNos
02:39 Cprossu egrsteve you still around?
02:39 Toastdude Night yNos
02:39 Cprossu also eg_lappy who is that?
02:39 wannabe1987 night
02:39 Cprossu .seen eg_lappy
02:39 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw eg_lappy 129.39 hours ago at 2011-12-01 17:16:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:39:29 UTC
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02:44 Toastdude Okay, wtf?
02:44 wannabe1987 hm?
02:44 wannabe1987 BotSteve: go find sndwrx
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02:47 Toastdude The thing on the live stream today
02:47 wannabe1987 ahhh
02:47 wannabe1987 hi druid
02:48 Druidic_Rifleman hey yNos
02:48 BotSteve Druidic_Rifleman: I have the following messages for you:
02:48 BotSteve At 06 Dec 13:51Z, yNos asked me to tell Druidic_Rifleman you having issues?
02:48 Druidic_Rifleman I would love to donate a keg
02:48 Monkeh|Lap Toastdude: Hm?
02:48 Druidic_Rifleman But i wouldn't be able to fill it with 5 gallons of mead
02:48 Toastdude http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/301879741  at 26:00
02:48 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv
02:49 Monkeh|Lap Toastdude: Contractor cut a gas pipe in the lab.
02:49 Toastdude I know..
02:49 Toastdude It just looks kinda weird..
02:50 Monkeh|Lap So what specifically are you asking about?
02:50 Toastdude ...nvm
02:50 Monkeh|Lap Toastdude: justin.tv is so crap I've yet to get it to seek to 26 minutes.
02:50 Toastdude lol
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02:51 Monkeh|Lap Is that Moose and Batman?
02:51 * Coderjoe just downloads the flv file...
02:51 Coderjoe yay... 2 hours remaining
02:53 Toastdude looks like it
02:53 egrsteve that does look like moose, batman and omni
02:54 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: The one true overlord at the lab.
02:55 ajprog_laptop egrsteve: you missed all the fun
02:57 Druidic_Rifleman So has the lab developed like actual Show content
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02:59 Monkeh|Lap Druidic_Rifleman: Thumper, Stomper, Gemini, the variety of small devices up in the cafe..
02:59 Monkeh|Lap Stomper's still being finished obviously
03:01 Toastdude Were was the leak?
03:01 Druidic_Rifleman gas leak?
03:01 dbshortwave WOW
03:01 dbshortwave 1 1/2" mail
03:01 * lwq1996 facepalm
03:01 dbshortwave big pipe
03:02 dbshortwave main^
03:02 dbshortwave im about to give up with all my fuckin typos... -.-
03:04 Toastdude lol
03:04 Cprossu who said it was a contractor?!
03:04 lwq1996 ikr!!!
03:05 Cprossu dbshortwave what?!
03:05 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Boden.
03:05 lwq1996 lol
03:05 Cprossu facebook?
03:05 dbshortwave it was an inch and a half main
03:05 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: TV news.
03:05 Cprossu shit.
03:05 Monkeh|Lap Why?
03:05 Cprossu wzzm or wood?
03:06 Monkeh|Lap wood
03:06 Ponko yep
03:06 dbshortwave thats what they said over the livestream
03:06 Ponko i just saw the same thing
03:06 Ponko was gonna say something about how happy days should be rewritten
03:06 Ponko sunday monday crappy days
03:07 Ponko wow this week has been ROUGH
03:07 Ponko and it's only just started really
03:08 Ponko anyway enough of my rambles
03:09 wannabe1987 you ok Ponko?
03:09 Ponko yeah just woke up from a dream
03:10 dbshortwave hate ti when things like that happen
03:16 astro73|alice God. I'm a dork. I was just doing something random and mundane, and I mentally constructed an almost-safe transactional filesystem
03:17 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Almost safe?
03:17 Ponko dbshortwave: waking up from dreams or something else?
03:17 astro73|alice It depends on an atomic check-and-update operation for symlinks
03:17 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: What, are you related to Hans Reiser?
03:17 egrsteve hour and a half to find a solder bridge to the ground plane
03:17 astro73|alice Monkeh|Lap: doubtful
03:17 dbshortwave yeah waking up like that
03:17 dbshortwave leaving your minds all fuzzy
03:17 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Well he specialises in almost-safe filesystems.
03:18 Cprossu http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand​_rapids/gas-leak-leonard-nw-120611?ref=scr​oller&amp;categoryId=30377&amp;status=true
03:18 BotSteve Title: Leonard reopened after gas leak | WOOD TV8
03:18 Cprossu ^ fun fun.
03:18 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: That and, y'know, murder..
03:18 astro73|alice Monkeh|Lap: Strictly speaking, using a symlink isn't required, but it provides a nice unity to the whole idea
03:18 Cprossu so egrsteve after the eventful day what's on tap?
03:18 Ponko dbshortwave: my mind was fuzzy i can tell you
03:18 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Why, what'd you get told?
03:19 dbshortwave you dont have to lol
03:19 Cprossu was just watching the news bit
03:19 dbshortwave i know what its like ;]
03:19 Ponko wasn't i meant
03:19 Cprossu I've just been asleep from now back till it happened
03:19 Cprossu needed a good nap
03:19 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Ah.
03:20 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: btw, did I mention I checked and that card is definitely Linux compatible if you can figure out how to enable the damn kernel option?
03:20 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell sndwrx that i need to know what time in the afternoon i should be somewhere to fix the car
03:20 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when sndwrx is around.
03:20 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when sndwrx is around.
03:20 wannabe1987 oh noes
03:20 wannabe1987 did i break the bot
03:20 wannabe1987 ?!
03:20 wannabe1987 damnit
03:20 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Well done
03:21 wannabe1987 astro73|alice fix the bot plz?
03:21 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: good deal.
03:21 Cprossu it's due to arrive sometime tomorrow.
03:21 astro73|alice I don't have any administrative access to it. I just write code.
03:21 wannabe1987 awwwww
03:21 tonsofpcs yawn
03:21 wannabe1987 write a code to fix the bot!
03:21 Cprossu it spent most of today in ohio though @ Monkeh|Lap
03:21 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I saw the tracking.
03:22 Ponko and wannabe1987 has knocked out BotSteve and wins by a technical knockout
03:22 wannabe1987 w00t
03:22 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I still can't figure out how to enable this driver..
03:23 Cprossu don't worry about it though
03:23 Monkeh|Lap Yeah it's just annoying me now
03:23 Monkeh|Lap I dislike things which don't make sense
03:23 Cprossu Welcome to computing!
03:24 Monkeh|Lap .. Oh.
03:24 Cprossu where our processors (x86) come from a line of integrated systems relating to IP given up to Intel by a company that wanted a cash register on a single chip.
03:24 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Linux menuconfig is broken.
03:24 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: The search says it depends on ISA=n
03:24 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: It actually depends on ISA=y.
03:25 Cprossu that should be easy enough Monkeh|Lap to compile a kernel for if it's not already enabled
03:25 Cprossu that's not obscure at all really
03:25 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Not entirely sure you can enable ISA on a 64-bit kernel.
03:25 Cprossu they are running a 32bit kernel I bet
03:25 Ponko ok of to sleep hopefully i won't wake up like i did the other time
03:25 Cprossu no they aren't
03:25 Cprossu damn
03:26 Cprossu or are they
03:26 Ponko dun dun duhhhhh
03:26 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yeah, CONFIG_ISA requires X86_32..
03:26 Ponko dbshortwave wannabe1987 wish me luck
03:26 Ponko lol
03:27 Cprossu anyway don't worry about it yet Monkeh|Lap
03:27 wannabe1987 good luck,f riend :P
03:27 dbshortwave lol
03:27 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Anyway, I don't see using a 32-bit OS being a problem here.
03:27 dbshortwave good luck
03:27 Ponko yeah i'll need it
03:27 Cprossu we'll see what happens when they dump the card in first.
03:27 Ponko maybe i'll go protected next time i go forth
03:27 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: It's not going to be performance critical enough for PAE to be an issue and nothing should need more than 4GB address space in one process..
03:28 Cprossu ^ continuous video files
03:28 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: 32-bit actually has some performance advantages
03:28 wannabe1987 ..................................
03:28 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: They can be split up and there are ways around that anyway.
03:28 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: You don't have to mmap the entire file.
03:28 Cprossu let them dump the card in and see if it'll work first though before freaking out
03:28 Cprossu you never know
03:29 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I've been handling files bigger than 4GB on 32-bit systems for a long time :)
03:29 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Well, I know it won't work with a 64-bit kernel unless Ubuntu are doing some pretty unconventional patching
03:29 Cprossu yeah but you were saying " nothing should need more than 4GB address space in one process.."
03:29 Toastdude http://www.fmylife.com/miscellaneous/18316439
03:29 Cprossu I was saying differently lol
03:29 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: .. Buut, on the other hand, I'm also seeing no reason this thing has to depend on ISA.
03:30 Cprossu nor am I
03:30 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Looks to me like you can just take that depend out and it'll work.
03:30 Cprossu does it have a pci-isa bridge on it?
03:31 dbshortwave wanna see somethignbeautiful?
03:31 dbshortwave shit
03:31 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Doubtful, these things don't actually connect via either.
03:31 dbshortwave see something beautiful
03:31 dbshortwave http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-ARCTURUS-blue-201A-​101A-type-tubes-/270867392379?pt=LH_DefaultDo​main_0&amp;hash=item3f10f4677b#ht_500wt_1156
03:31 dbshortwave just look
03:31 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Just that this chip is SO OLD it's from the ISA days.
03:33 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Let me put it this way: All it does is probe for the ports using the normal 8250/16550 driver.
03:34 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: If it doesn't work out of the box, I can make it. This is old school.
03:35 Monkeh|Lap Kinda neat to go back and play with stuff on this level actually.
03:36 BatSteve word up
03:36 dbshortwave grandfather to op-amps http://www.ebay.com/itm/Geoorge-Philbrick-S-K​2-WJ-Tube-Op-Amp-/290642704914?pt=LH_DefaultD​omain_0&amp;hash=item43aba7ba12#ht_657wt_1139
03:37 BatSteve hmm
03:37 * BatSteve wonders why his sound has been wonky
03:37 wannabe1987 can you fixe botsteve?
03:37 wannabe1987 ...............................
03:37 wannabe1987 i guess not
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03:37 wannabe1987 BatSteve
03:37 wannabe1987 i broke the bot
03:37 wannabe1987 plz fix?!
03:37 wannabe1987 and hi
03:37 BatSteve you did?
03:38 BatSteve what did you do?
03:38 wannabe1987 a tell :P
03:38 Monkeh|Lap <wannabe1987> BotSteve: tell sndwrx that i need to know what time in the afternoon i should be somewhere to fix the car
03:38 Monkeh|Lap <BotSteve> wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when sndwrx is around.
03:38 Monkeh|Lap <BotSteve> wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when sndwrx is around.
03:38 Monkeh|Lap <wannabe1987> oh noes
03:38 Monkeh|Lap * BotSteve has quit (Remote host closed the connection)
03:38 Monkeh|Lap </spam>
03:38 tonsofpcs my interwebs broked again :(
03:38 wannabe1987 that
03:38 BatSteve oh
03:38 BatSteve ok
03:38 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: stop doing that :P
03:38 Toastdude Oh, I had a tell for you, BatSteve
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03:38 BatSteve I'll need to write some code for that
03:38 BotSteve BatSteve: I have the following messages for you:
03:38 BotSteve At 00:16Z, Ponko asked me to tell BatSteve that ponky wants you to watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-wEgcKbaO0 and he wants me to mention that you are in the video @ 0:49 :)
03:38 Toastdude Also.... Hi BatSteve!!
03:39 tonsofpcs hopefully it was maintenance (it was down for 1.3 hours) and not self-breakingness
03:39 BatSteve nah it was self-breakingness
03:39 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I need to find the page I dug up the other day, had instructions on changing the interface mode for those chips..
03:40 tonsofpcs BatSteve: :(
03:40 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: which chips?
03:40 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: 16C550/650 UARTs.
03:40 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: There's a quad-port RS422/485 card headed for the lab.
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03:40 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: cool
03:41 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: those sound familiar...
03:41 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: 16550 = normal UART, successor to the 8250
03:41 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: 16C550 is a bit different
03:41 Monkeh|Lap But still uses the same driver
03:42 tonsofpcs I think that might be the same chip that our HPs use.
03:42 Monkeh|Lap Quite possibly
03:42 tonsofpcs (they have 232 switchable to 422/485)
03:43 Monkeh|Lap Not sure if these do 232 but probably
03:43 BatSteve tonsofpcs: it's a known issue
03:43 BatSteve we just don't know why it happens yet
03:44 Toastdude Brb
03:44 tonsofpcs BatSteve: what's a known issue? you breaking my interwebs?
03:45 BatSteve error: uncaptured python exception, closing channel <bot.Phenny connected at 0x21ad248> (<type 'exceptions.IndexError'>:deque index out of range [/usr/lib64/python2.7/asyncore.py|write|87]
03:45 BatSteve That's the issue right thar
03:45 wannabe1987 BatSteve and tonsofpcs are talking about two differen things, i think
03:45 wannabe1987 LOL
03:45 BatSteve apparently
03:45 astro73|alice BatSteve: I found a patch for that, although i don't think it solves the underlying issue. It's in my nicktracker branch
03:46 BatSteve oh!
03:46 astro73|alice (which has a functional bug in it with regards to NICK handling)
03:46 tonsofpcs I blame wannabe1987 for making BatSteve thinking I was talking about BotSteve and not providing us with enouugh cookies for distraction
03:46 BatSteve I think I have a pull request relating to that, which I haven't pulled yet because I've been doing other things
03:46 BatSteve as do I!
03:46 wannabe1987 .cookie BotSteve
03:46 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *om nom nom*
03:46 tonsofpcs :)
03:46 BatSteve everyone shun wannabe!
03:46 wannabe1987 .cookie BatSteve
03:46 BotSteve Here you go, BatSteve, I baked you a shortbread cookie!
03:46 wannabe1987 .cookie to
03:46 BotSteve Here you go, to, I baked you an oatmeal raisin cookie!
03:46 BatSteve .shun wannabe1987
03:46 BatSteve shunnnnnnn
03:47 wannabe1987 .cookie tonsofpcs
03:47 BotSteve Here you go, tonsofpcs, I baked you a M&M's cookie!
03:47 wannabe1987 what....?!
03:47 wannabe1987 shun me?!  but why.....
03:47 tonsofpcs that's to<tab> to you (and probably <tab><tab> due to some toast guy)
03:47 Coderjoe holy crap, justintv.... this is downloading like I'm on 3g
03:47 wannabe1987 i'm tgg therapist :P
03:47 tonsofpcs downloading?
03:47 * lwq1996 goes away
03:47 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Anyway, one way or another, it's an 8250/16550/16C550 chip so it'll work somehow.
03:47 * Monkeh|Lap wants one
03:47 * wannabe1987 drags lwq1996 back
03:47 astro73|alice BatSteve: I haven't made any pull requests. Although you may want to cherry-pick that branch.
03:47 tonsofpcs Toast-Away: stop stealing my tabs! :-p
03:47 wannabe1987 .cookie Monkeh|Lap
03:47 BotSteve Here you go, Monkeh|Lap, I baked you an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie!
03:47 BatSteve ah ok
03:47 Monkeh|Lap I could really use a four port RS232 interface
03:47 * lwq1996 gets away from wannabe
03:47 wannabe1987 :(
03:47 lwq1996 SANDUSKY
03:48 wannabe1987 .cookie lwq1996
03:48 BotSteve Here you go, lwq1996, I baked you a chocolate chip cookie!
03:48 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I couldn't.
03:48 wannabe1987 CEDAR POINT?!
03:48 wannabe1987 o BatSteve!  guess what?
03:48 lwq1996 you dont drag little kids 0.o thats what sandusky does
03:48 lwq1996 CHICKEN BUTT
03:48 lwq1996 guess why
03:48 wannabe1987 you a little kid?
03:48 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I got lots of RS232 stuff hanging aorund my server.
03:48 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Switches, UPS, APs..
03:48 lwq1996 if i tell the judge i am they will believe me
03:49 BatSteve wannabe1987: Chicken butt?
03:49 wannabe1987 cnooooo
03:49 wannabe1987 i got a job!
03:49 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I have RS232 stuff all over the place.  One 4-port card will only require that I buy more 4port cards (and a lot of cables)
03:49 BatSteve Congratulatinos!!
03:49 lwq1996 define job?
03:49 wannabe1987 thanks :D
03:49 * wannabe1987 throws a party on irc!
03:49 tonsofpcs a jorb! what kind of jorb?
03:49 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Heh.
03:49 tonsofpcs .cookie wannabe1987
03:49 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a ginger cookie!
03:49 wannabe1987 i get paid to take care of people in their home :D
03:49 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I know what you need.
03:49 wannabe1987 thanks :D
03:49 Druidic_Rifleman gnnnn
03:49 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: a rocketport?
03:49 tonsofpcs I have two of those.
03:49 lwq1996 you have to pay for your own gas?
03:49 Druidic_Rifleman I saw wannabe congrats
03:50 astro73|alice wannabe1987: congrats! Does this mean you'll have a home?
03:50 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: A few of these: http://www.easysync-ltd.com/p​roduct/593/es-u-3016-rm.html
03:50 BotSteve Title: ES-U-3016-RM
03:50 dbshortwave i think im going to go to bed
03:50 wannabe1987 astro73|alice: i'm living in husdonville (georgetown shores) with some realtor and other people in his basement, paying rent
03:50 wannabe1987 i already have a home :P
03:50 tonsofpcs Right, I have two of those, essentially.
03:50 * lwq1996 sleeps in dbs bed :P no you cant...im in it
03:51 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: They're awesome.
03:51 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | http://www.humblebundle.com/ | Wannabe1987 has a job!  Congratulate her!
03:51 astro73|alice wannabe1987: congrats! You're moving up
03:51 wannabe1987 thanks guys.  i'm stoked.  after over a year of not working, i'm more than ready to work :D
03:51 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Only downside is you can only configure the ports via the switches.
03:51 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Congrats
03:51 Cprossu BatSteve: also humblebundle is over
03:51 wannabe1987 thanks :D
03:51 tonsofpcs I think they're http://www.comtrol.com/pub​/products/product/pid/216 actually
03:51 lwq1996 well its been how many months since the painting insident
03:51 BotSteve Title: RocketPort 16-Port RS-422 Rackmount Interface > RocketPort Multi-Port Serial Cards > RocketPort uPCI Rackmount Interfaces |
03:51 BatSteve oh
03:51 tonsofpcs not sure exactly, I always look at the front of the rack
03:51 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | Wannabe1987 has a job!  Congratulate her!
03:51 BatSteve I blame monks for not keeping that up to date
03:52 Druidic_Rifleman where are you working wannabe
03:52 lwq1996 lol
03:52 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Hmm, PCI interfaces.
03:52 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I kinda like the USB interface.
03:52 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's pretty robust and doesn't take my precious slots.
03:52 wannabe1987 a place in grandville mi
03:52 tonsofpcs USB doesn't have enough throughput for 16 ports
03:52 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Depends what you're using them for.
03:52 lwq1996 how much you gona make an hour?
03:53 wannabe1987 9.50
03:53 wannabe1987 :D
03:53 lwq1996 not bad :P
03:53 wannabe1987 best i've ever made, so yeah
03:53 lwq1996 will be able to get an apt soon with that
03:53 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: And.. USB 2.0 does.
03:53 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: right, but design-wise, I wouldn't
03:53 lwq1996 how many hours a week will you work?
03:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yeah, I know, USB is far from perfect if you need realtime.
03:54 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: really? 232 is synchronous...
03:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's absolutely brilliant if you just need lots of ports to hand though.
03:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: And what's the max bitrate?
03:54 tonsofpcs 422 can be asynchronous which is even harder! :)
03:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: 422 is, apparently, 10Mbit/s
03:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: USB 2.0 is 480.
03:55 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: theoretical?
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03:56 Druidic_Rifleman hey BarSteve
03:56 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I think you'd have to work at it to run a USB 2.0 bus out of bandwidth with serial devices. :)
03:56 tonsofpcs right.  That's 4x 422 ports, plus signaling for the port, plus you need to double the speed... you're down to two ports.......
03:56 Druidic_Rifleman How much do you think a sponser logo on an F16 would be worth....
03:57 Druidic_Rifleman BatSteve*
03:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Eh? 10 goes into 480 a lot more than four times.
03:57 tonsofpcs err, sorry, been sick, not thinking straight, but you'd likely not get more than 4 ports out of it.
03:58 BatSteve Druidic_Rifleman: heyo
03:58 tonsofpcs trunking serial busses over a serial bus is just bad form, anyway.
03:58 Coderjoe usb2 is more than enough for over 8 channels of 96khz/24bit audio
03:58 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Even with USB limitations, 16 ports is 320Mbit/s data rate plus overhead, and that should just about be handled by one USB 2.0 port
03:58 wannabe1987 BatSteve: did you hear about the lady who walked into a propeller?
03:58 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: As I said, it's mostly useful as a cost effective way to get a lot of ports, rather than a lot of busy ones.
03:59 wannabe1987 it was on the n ews
03:59 tonsofpcs assuiming that they cascade well.
03:59 BatSteve I didn't
03:59 BatSteve do you have a link?
03:59 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: USB is never my choice for performance, it's almost always my choice for accessibility
04:00 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: One of those little boxes can provide, say, serial console for 16 switches from one server, without needing a load of fancy serial switchers
04:00 wannabe1987 i can try to find one
04:01 Monkeh|Lap I dislike those devices, just like I dislike KVM units which use keyboard input to switch.
04:01 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: so can a few transistors, a single RS232 port, and a parallel port... (or a single RS232 port and some interrupts, or two RS232 ports, etc.)
04:01 wannabe1987 http://www.justicenewsflash.com/2011/12/06​/north-texas-woman-lose-hand-after-being-h​it-by-airplane-propeller_201112069184.html
04:01 BotSteve Title: North Texas Woman Loses Hand After Being Hit by Airplane Propeller | Illinois News | JusticeNewsFlash Release
04:02 Coderjoe wow.. like audiophiles arguing over cables or amps
04:02 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: No, we at least deal in science.
04:02 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: cables or amps?
04:03 lwq1996 i only need 10 friends till 300
04:03 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: clearly you need 100% oxygen free copper, silver-plated, oxidized, then re-plated with silver for optimum signal flow
04:03 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: You're assuming you have complete control over the port, there. Also that the server even HAS one. :)
04:03 tonsofpcs lwq1996: facebook is not a competition
04:03 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Wait wait
04:03 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: You forgot the cryogenic treatment.
04:03 wannabe1987 BatSteve: http://www.justicenewsflash.com/2011/12/06​/north-texas-woman-lose-hand-after-being-h​it-by-airplane-propeller_201112069184.html
04:03 BotSteve Title: North Texas Woman Loses Hand After Being Hit by Airplane Propeller | Illinois News | JusticeNewsFlash Release
04:03 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: how else do you plan on oxidizing the silver in one pass?
04:03 tonsofpcs :)
04:03 Druidic_Rifleman Soo batsteve???
04:04 BatSteve Druidic_Rifleman: So?
04:04 Druidic_Rifleman what i am thinking is we find a 2 seater version of the viper
04:04 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I'm still amazed every time I see people actually buy into that shit.
04:04 Druidic_Rifleman Plaster it in sponser logos
04:04 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: in their defense, it actually matters at a few megahertz....
04:04 Druidic_Rifleman Thenonce or twice a year we take Children up in it for groups like make a wish
04:04 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: That's not defense.
04:04 BatSteve thanks wannabe
04:05 tonsofpcs I didn't say it was a good defense :-p
04:05 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It means jack shit within half a light year of the human hearing range. :P
04:05 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: And then there's the special mains cabling!
04:05 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: nah, just the star-topology ground system
04:05 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Y'know, there's a site over here which sells those..
04:06 * Druidic_Rifleman pokes batsteve
04:06 dbshortwave so... im assuming that everyone that was in the lab at the timeis ok?
04:06 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: y'know, I have to install things like that.  (again, it matters at a few megahertz...and high power levels [and also really low power levels])
04:07 BatSteve I'm still here druid
04:07 wannabe1987 no, dbshortwave, everyone died :P
04:07 BatSteve just occupied
04:07 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yeah, but there's a world of difference between that and the wiring in your house.
04:07 BatSteve I'm ok with that idea
04:07 tonsofpcs occupy batsteve!
04:07 dbshortwave awesome
04:07 dbshortwave can i have there stuff?
04:07 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Which is fed by a bit of concentric cable running up from the street..
04:08 Druidic_Rifleman Is it better then my other idea which is a 380 mile low level supersonic flight?
04:08 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: oh, just a few mcm.
04:08 Druidic_Rifleman to promote the geek group
04:09 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: don't worry, that's balanced line on the street.
04:09 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Hah.
04:09 Toast-Away Stealing your tabs, tonsofpcs?
04:09 tonsofpcs to<tab>
04:09 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: seriously though, it is.
04:09 Toastdude lol :P
04:09 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Is it?
04:09 tonsofpcs yup.
04:10 tonsofpcs try explaining that to audiphiles though :-p
04:10 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's also a ring main. Unlike what 99.95% of people call a ring main.
04:11 tonsofpcs a ring main?
04:11 Monkeh|Lap Yep
04:11 tonsofpcs wazzat?
04:11 Monkeh|Lap Don't google it, you'll get the wrong thing.
04:12 tonsofpcs hey, at least wikipedia told me it was the wrong thing!
04:12 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: A ring main, when it comes to distribution (not final circuits) is, as I recall, a ring fed from multiple points.
04:12 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: To balance voltage across the circuit and allow segments to be isolated.
04:13 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Meanwhile, a ring final is a circuit which starts and ends at the protective device (which is what most people call a ring main, and is very much peculiar to the UK)
04:14 Monkeh|Lap If you ever see a ring final outside the UK, trust me, it's been installed by a brit who doesn't know any better.
04:14 Coderjoe woah
04:15 tonsofpcs if you say so.  Anyway, if you have overhead wiring (or other visible mains wiring) over a reasonable length (say a few km), look at it and watch as it twists in an attempt to maintain a properly balanced transmission line
04:15 Coderjoe when did that big vision mixer go into master control?
04:15 tonsofpcs ah, I see Coderjoe is another euro (brit?)
04:15 Coderjoe no
04:15 tonsofpcs it's called a switcher!
04:15 tonsofpcs :)
04:15 Coderjoe last time I was in MV had the GVG rack
04:16 tonsofpcs and?  do I need to look at a video?
04:16 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Oh, I've seen big lines jump around.
04:16 Coderjoe er, last I was in MC
04:16 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Ever seen what an overhead line does when it's connected to a supply and the capacitance is taken up?
04:16 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: yea, it's not as consistant a twist as in Cat6, but it's a twiist ;)
04:17 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: seen? no.  had to sit in the lobby with skylights for 3 hours while off the air wondering if powerr would ever come back on? yes.
04:17 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Speaking of, that's what the sort of angry caps at the lab are often used for..
04:17 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: There's a LOT of capacitance in a couple hundred kilometers of cable. :)
04:17 Monkeh|Lap Something has to fill that without browning out an entire state
04:18 tonsofpcs does the fusible lines blowing count too? (both happened during electrical storms)
04:19 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's watching branches fall on lines which is really fun. :)
04:19 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: If you get a good one it sits there screaming for a while.
04:19 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: apparently mylar baloons floating into 11kV lines is fun too.
04:19 tonsofpcs I haven't witnessed this firsthand
04:20 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: where do you see this switcher that you're talking about?
04:21 tonsofpcs also, chris has weird analglyph glasses
04:22 Coderjoe blog 12/5 27:45
04:23 Coderjoe mounted into the countertop
04:23 Coderjoe bigger and more advanced than the GVG i helped egrsteve with
04:23 lwq1996 you guys should apply at lockerz.com you can get lots of free shit
04:24 lwq1996 its like a points system
04:24 lwq1996 i got 1284 points already
04:24 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: that's the saturn.
04:24 tonsofpcs (also a GVG)
04:24 tonsofpcs the 160003 is mounted vertically but still not connected (at least, not afaict)
04:25 tonsofpcs err, 160002
04:25 tonsofpcs the saturn is a master control switcher, the 160002 is a production switcher
04:25 Coderjoe it was connected a few months ago
04:25 lwq1996 what is gr's zip?
04:25 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: if you've seen Cprossu going on about 'jupiter', 'saturn', or 'the damned planetary system', that's what he's been talking about.
04:26 tonsofpcs I don't know GR's zip.  I know GE's zip!
04:26 lwq1996 ge?
04:26 Coderjoe what part of GR?
04:26 tonsofpcs general electric
04:26 lwq1996 oh lol
04:26 tonsofpcs I'm guessing Leonard St, NW?
04:26 lwq1996 yes
04:26 wannabe1987 http://superheroes.memebase.com/201​1/06/17/superheroes-batman-superman​-sweet-bat-vestite-from-batslvania/  oh my
04:26 BotSteve Title: Sweet Bat-vestite From Batslvania - Superheroes
04:26 lwq1996 wannabe whats gr zip code?
04:26 wannabe1987 49504
04:26 wannabe1987 for the lab?
04:27 lwq1996 yes
04:27 tonsofpcs (the part between the 7-11 and the houses a blocck the other direction from the labs)
04:27 wannabe1987 49504 :P
04:27 Coderjoe there are several zip codes for the city of GR proper, and then several more for the suburbs
04:27 tonsofpcs (also, I totally want to move into the labs just so I can visit 7-11 whenever I want)
04:28 lwq1996 im looking to see if there is anything for lockerz
04:28 Druidic_Rifleman you don't have a 7-11 near you
04:28 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: no, upstate NY sucks like that.
04:28 tonsofpcs (at least, this part of it does)
04:28 Druidic_Rifleman Ah yeah it does
04:28 tonsofpcs we don't have a DQ either :(
04:28 wannabe1987 yes, Coderjoe, but the lab's zip is 49504
04:28 Coderjoe the nearest two 7-11 to me closed down over a year ago
04:28 Druidic_Rifleman I spent part of my child hood in cambria
04:28 tonsofpcs nearest DQ is like 100 miles
04:28 wannabe1987 i used to live .5 block from the lab, so i would know
04:29 Coderjoe wannabe1987: right. I was telling tonsofpcs that there are several zips and to be more specific
04:29 wannabe1987 ah
04:29 wannabe1987 yeah
04:29 Druidic_Rifleman i am hungry
04:29 wannabe1987 eat food
04:29 tonsofpcs I didn't need the ZIP, lee did
04:29 Druidic_Rifleman mom made to few of grammas cod cakes
04:29 Coderjoe er, right
04:29 tonsofpcs also, GE's ZIP is 12345, for those of you wondering why I know that :-p
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04:29 Coderjoe not GE Aviation
04:30 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: I spent a few years living on route 104... a few hundred miles east
04:30 Druidic_Rifleman i camped out there
04:30 Druidic_Rifleman nice resort
04:30 tonsofpcs (I went to Oswego for college)
04:30 Toastdude Bye all!
04:30 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: GE's legacy headquarters in schenectady.  They have their own ZIP code.
04:31 wannabe1987 night toasty
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04:31 tonsofpcs 136 miles down 104, apparently...
04:32 tonsofpcs lol @ these google maps ddirections btw.
04:33 tonsofpcs "Head north towards route 104" 1.3 mi "turn right onto route 104" 7.8 mi "turn left on route 104" 0.3 mi "slight right onto route 104" 127 mi.
04:33 tonsofpcs (and yes, that's the default route)
04:33 wannabe1987 i got 27 likes and many comments on my "i got a job" status :D
04:34 * tonsofpcs currently lives near binghamton, which is evenn worse, bcause we don't even have a full-service tim hortons and likely won't get them now that they have mini-installs (read: coffee dispensers) in all the mirabito gas stations
04:35 wannabe1987 poor tonsofpcs
04:35 tonsofpcs no 7-11, no DQ, no Timmys, at least we have a 5guys...
04:36 wannabe1987 i don't go to 7-11, dq or timmys......or dunkin donuts, or 5guys (never been, sadly)
04:36 tonsofpcs eh, 5guys isn't all that hot really.  their fries are addictive though
04:37 wannabe1987 yeah, thats what i've been told
04:37 tonsofpcs also, if you order a large fries, they'll just keep dumping them in the bag, you basically get a whole basket drop's worth.
04:39 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude http://chzheroes.files.wordpress.com/​2011/06/superheroes-batman-superman-s​weet-bat-vestite-from-batslvania.jpg
04:39 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when toastdude is around.
04:39 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
04:39 BotSteve Happy to help, wannabe1987
04:40 * tonsofpcs started reading that url and couldn't help but think of chorizo
04:40 wannabe1987 lol
04:40 tonsofpcs in other news, I have a serving worth of chorizo in the fridge :D
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04:50 Druidic_Rifleman wannabe WTF
04:50 wannabe1987 what?
04:51 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wUb​Isgf0lQ&amp;feature=player_embedded
04:51 BotSteve Title: The absolute original Bunny Song - YouTube
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04:52 wannabe1987 wb
04:52 Toastdude Dank
04:52 BotSteve Toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
04:52 BotSteve At 04:39Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell Toastdude http://chzheroes.files.wordpress.com/​2011/06/superheroes-batman-superman-s​weet-bat-vestite-from-batslvania.jpg
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04:57 lwq1996 my dad is unteachable when it comes to facebook
04:58 Toastdude Lol
04:58 wannabe1987 lol
05:01 Coderjoe in some regards, so is mark zuckerberg
05:01 Coderjoe http://imgur.com/a/PrLrB
05:01 BotSteve Title: It's time to fix those security flaws facebook... - Imgur
05:04 lwq1996 toast did you block me on facebook
05:04 Toastdude Who's Mark Zuckerburg? :P
05:04 Toastdude *sarcasm*
05:04 Toastdude No, Lee, I deleted it
05:04 lwq1996 why?!?!?!?!
05:05 Toastdude Because I wanted to
05:05 lwq1996 did you hate it
05:06 Toastdude Nope, not at all
05:13 egrsteve .nick egrsteve|away
05:13 Toastdude Bye Steve
05:13 lwq1996 :(
05:15 MadManMarkAu Common phrase: if (strcmp(input, "$") == 0) output = "!!";
05:15 MadManMarkAu I'll laugh if anyone gets it.
05:17 Toastdude Lol
05:17 lwq1996 idk?
05:17 MadManMarkAu "More bang for your buck"
05:17 Toastdude if the string cmp, which is an input of a string, is = to 0, the say !!
05:18 Toastdude lol
05:18 MadManMarkAu xD
05:18 lwq1996 oh
05:20 Toastdude Man, the Khan Academy guy must know everything...
05:21 lwq1996 lol
05:29 sndwrx schwell.
05:29 BotSteve sndwrx: I have the following messages for you:
05:29 BotSteve At 03:20Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell sndwrx that i need to know what time in the afternoon i should be somewhere to fix the car
05:29 wannabe1987 yay you're still alive!
05:35 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wUb​Isgf0lQ&amp;feature=player_embedded
05:35 BotSteve Title: The absolute original Bunny Song - YouTube
05:35 wannabe1987 wrong link
05:35 lwq1996 0.o
05:38 wannabe1987 this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw
05:38 BotSteve Title: Fiddler on the roof - Tradition ( with subtitles ) - YouTube
05:39 lwq1996 o.0
05:39 wannabe1987 what?
05:39 lwq1996 no comment
05:39 wannabe1987 i love musicals
05:39 Toastdude If I were a rich man..
05:39 wannabe1987 see?!
05:39 wannabe1987 toast knows whats good
05:40 * Toastdude watched Fiddler on the Roof about 50x10¹³³²³ times...
05:40 wannabe1987 lol
05:40 wannabe1987 my dad played lazar wolfe in hs :D
05:40 * Toastdude is not joking..
05:40 wannabe1987 i don't doubt you at all :D
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05:41 Toastdude Wow, what a great musical... :)
05:41 Toastdude I haven't seen that in years
05:41 wannabe1987 :D
05:42 * lwq1996 is glad he has never watched it and dont think he wants too
05:42 * Toastdude thumperizes Lee along with the football players and preppy cheerleaders
05:45 Toastdude "One staircase just leading up, and one even longer coming down. And one just leading nowhere just for show!"
05:45 Toastdude :D
05:45 wannabe1987 :)
05:45 wannabe1987 yay proof of car insurance :D
05:45 Druidic_Rifleman wananbe why would you post pics of transvestite batman in here
05:45 wannabe1987 why not?
05:46 wannabe1987 its a geeky thing
05:46 Druidic_Rifleman thats not the kinda stuff that needs to be posted in here
05:46 wannabe1987 if you get offended, leave?
05:46 wannabe1987 OR DON"T LOOK
05:46 wannabe1987 i didn't make you look
05:48 ajprog_laptop we have heat in the labs again!!!
05:50 Toastdude I remember things from the musical once I see them, and it's been about... 6 years?
05:52 tonsofpcs If I'm going to apply for something that wants my GPA and I transferred during my undergrad, what GPA do I give?  Do I sum all grade-points and divide by all credit hours?  only the credit hours and associated gradepoints that transferred? just from the one school?
05:52 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: nsfw?
05:52 wannabe1987 what?
05:53 Druidic_Rifleman See not only i think you soould of posted that in NSFW
05:53 Druidic_Rifleman http://media.photobucket.com/image/f%201​6%20two%20seater/Pictures77_2008/F16.jpg i think TGG should get one of these and take kids with terminal illnesses for joy rides
05:53 BotSteve Title: F 16 two seater image by Pictures77_2008 on Photobucket
05:54 wannabe1987 i'm sorry i failed, except it was a tell for someone WHO WAS NOT HERE and WAS NOT EXPECTED TO COME BACK TILL TOMORROW NIGHT.  noone forced you to open the link up, it was not for you!
05:54 wannabe1987 i can see some many things going wronge with that picture druid
05:57 Druidic_Rifleman Like???
05:59 Druidic_Rifleman What could go wrong with my plan????
05:59 wannabe1987 1) most terminal children are hooked up to machines and theres not room for them (the machines) in the F16.  2) most terminal children need o2.  i realize that f16 and other planes like it come w/ o2, but the stuff the terminal children need is ultra concentrated.  3) some kids could be claustraphobic.  4) what could go wrong?  children DYING while up in the air.
05:59 wannabe1987 theres not room to land a f16 on most highways so an ambulance couldget to the child to bring him to a hospital
05:59 Druidic_Rifleman WQe land at an airport
06:00 Druidic_Rifleman air ambulance
06:00 wannabe1987 now, i don't work in pediatrics, but my mom and sister do.
06:00 Druidic_Rifleman still think it's an epic idea...
06:01 wannabe1987 it is.  maybe for non-terminal children....maybe as part of make-a-wish foundation....
06:05 Druidic_Rifleman of course...
06:06 wannabe1987 sorry to rain on your parade
06:06 wannabe1987 it *is* a great idea :D  who is gonna fund it?
06:07 Toastdude Bye (again)
06:07 wannabe1987 awwww
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06:07 wannabe1987 DON"T LEAVE ME HERE WITH THESE PEOPLE
06:07 wannabe1987 hey look, its guitar guy!  Hi Electricguy
06:07 Toastdude I'm sorry, but I must!
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06:13 tonsofpcs muahahuahuah
06:14 Druidic_Rifleman hey what have i done
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06:18 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: why so evil?
06:18 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
06:18 BotSteve At 06:08Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell wannabe1987 you'll survive until tomorrow. :P
06:18 wannabe1987 no, no i wont !!!! :P
06:18 wannabe1987 actually, yes, yes, i will
06:19 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: you're stuck with us! :-p
06:19 wannabe1987 you, and druid, and sndwrx, and BatSteve, and masterofmonks and a few others.....but exor674 is probably here, so i'm not the *only* female
06:21 Electricguy LOL wannabe1987! XD
06:21 Electricguy and hi :)
06:22 wannabe1987 lol
06:22 tonsofpcs we could maybe get a eunich?
06:22 * egrsteve|away continues to lurk in the shadows
06:24 wannabe1987 cory?
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06:42 wannabe1987 hi Thermoelectric1
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06:47 lwq1996 which is better 32bit or 64bit?
06:48 tonsofpcs depends
06:48 lwq1996 im planning to build a desktop compuuter over time and im going all out
06:48 tonsofpcs 128bit
06:49 lwq1996 they make programs for 128bit?
06:50 tonsofpcs sure, why not.  you said over time :-p
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06:51 lwq1996 im planning to build it from new egg or tiger direct stuff
06:51 lwq1996 ass hole -.- your planing with me
06:52 lwq1996 playin
06:53 tonsofpcs programs aren't generally written "for" a particular platform these days, they get compiled for them sure....
06:56 lwq1996 im gona make a computer from complete scratch and home to have it build in 5 years
06:56 lwq1996 :P
06:57 lwq1996 i have little income so this is going to be tough
07:00 wannabe1987 you'll be fine :P :)
07:01 lwq1996 i get 20 dollars every 2 weeks in the summer and vertially nothing in the winter
07:03 Druidic_Rifleman MMMMM biscuit and bacon gravy
07:04 lwq1996 lol
07:04 Druidic_Rifleman Is eating like health fuuds nowz
07:06 lwq1996 ok im going to bed, later all
07:06 wannabe1987 night!
07:06 wannabe1987 :hugs:
07:07 * lwq1996 hugs
07:07 wannabe1987 :D
07:07 * lwq1996 falls over sound asleep
07:07 * wannabe1987 drags lwq1996 to bed
07:08 * lwq1996 feels that he is being draged and goes all ninja
07:09 * lwq1996 sees that its wannabe and apologizes
07:09 wannabe1987 lol
07:09 * lwq1996 runs and jumps into bed
07:09 lwq1996 ugh too warm
07:10 * lwq1996 takes all the covers and cloths off and throws them on the floor
07:10 wannabe1987 NSFW
07:13 tonsofpcs NSFL either.
07:13 wannabe1987 L?
07:14 tonsofpcs lee.
07:14 wannabe1987 lol
07:14 tonsofpcs peer agrees.
07:15 wannabe1987 lol
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07:22 LemLap bleh
07:22 LemLap wet lemming >_<
07:22 LemLap had to do some errands, and the rain hasn't let up all day
07:27 wannabe1987 :p
07:27 wannabe1987 poor lem
07:27 sndwrx i retract my earlier statement of barely playing games.
07:27 wannabe1987 yeah?
07:27 sndwrx i've spent a few hours playing portal 2 today.
07:27 sndwrx and co-op mode is pretty fun.
07:28 wannabe1987 what system do you have?
07:28 sndwrx i don't have any consoles.
07:28 sndwrx playing on computer.
07:28 wannabe1987 ah.  pc ames
07:28 wannabe1987 games
07:34 * JA12 plays air drums while Insomnium - Weather The Storm gives the beat
07:36 wannabe1987 i'm hungry again....
07:36 wannabe1987 maybe i should sleep instead :P
07:37 sndwrx I'm hungry too.  :/
07:37 JA12 you might not get any sleep is you're really hungry
07:38 JA12 *if
07:39 wannabe1987 i'm not really hungry.  its probably boredom :P
07:39 wannabe1987 hence the going to sleep
07:39 sndwrx Crap, it's almost three.
07:39 wannabe1987 besides, i have *real* food now (ish) and i have stuff for breakfast :D
07:39 wannabe1987 mhm
07:39 JA12 wannabe1987: alcohol works :)
07:40 wannabe1987 yes, i have that too, but a friends alcoholic friend drank all my vodka (and never replaced it) and i have 2 swallows of rum left and a small bottle of wine (or two).....
07:40 wannabe1987 i'm running low on alcohol
07:41 JA12 you don't have to get wasted to get some sleep :)
07:41 wannabe1987 trust me, i don't haev any sleep issues
07:41 wannabe1987 and my rum is *expensive* as hell so i don't drink it much
07:43 JA12 I don't assume you have sleep issues but could also help to chill before going to bed
07:44 sndwrx You don't strike me as the type to keep liquor around just for the sake of it.
07:44 wannabe1987 can't afford that :P
07:44 wannabe1987 who, me?
07:44 JA12 anyways, I don't drink myself so maybe I shouldn't recommend it :)
07:44 sndwrx yeah
07:45 wannabe1987 yeah, i don't normally have alcohol around..  i'll buy a bottle of vodka and it'll last a year, year and half (i'll only drink it straight or in coke/diet coke)....the wine was on sale so i got mom some for her birthday and got the rest for cooking with :P
07:45 JA12 I have (half empty) vodka bottle which is 6 or 7 years old iirc
07:46 wannabe1987 nice
07:46 sndwrx straight or with coke, huh?
07:46 wannabe1987 yeah
07:46 sndwrx it's good with sprite.  or monster or red bull.
07:47 wannabe1987 or if i'm at zachs, he'll mix it in something and i'll drink it.
07:47 wannabe1987 or mudslides :D
07:47 wannabe1987 hmmmm he hasn't had a party in a while....
07:48 wannabe1987 night bats
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07:56 JA12 I've been up all night. I went to bed too early yesterday and woke up before midnight
07:57 JA12 so I started new 3d modeling project: robotic bunny
08:00 sndwrx k i'm going to sleep.
08:00 sndwrx i'm exhausted.
08:00 JA12 k. night sndwrx
08:02 sndwrx night JA12
08:02 sndwrx night everyone.
08:03 wannabe1987 night sndwrx
08:03 wannabe1987 i'm going to sleep as well
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08:20 wannabe-zz http://standardshift.com/forum/viewtop​ic.php?f=7&amp;t=9265&amp;start=47745 ok so rope-pusher explains things so i can undeerstand them....
08:20 BotSteve Title: StandardShift.com • View topic - Misc Thread VI: Return of the Threadi
08:20 wannabe-zz and ites *really* time for me to sleep :P
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08:20 wannabe-zz night all!
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08:52 LemPhone sigh, stopped to talk to someone, missed the train by 9 minutes, 21 minutes till the next one :-(
09:29 Druidic_Rifleman wannabe shouldn't you be sleeping
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10:05 Druidic_Rifleman morning lemming
10:05 Sgt_Lemming evening
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10:50 Sgt_Lemming http://www.fmylife.com/miscellaneous/5954141
10:50 BotSteve Title: FML: I carved a pumpkin for Halloween. I thought it would be cool to carve my name, and have it shine...
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11:06 * Experimentonomen is falling asleep in a office
11:20 Druidic_Rifleman Consume caffeen
11:27 dbshortwave http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Early-1900​s-Radio-Wet-Battery-Glass-Voltaic-Cells​-/380225322079?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&am​p;hash=item588731fc5f#ht_8464wt_1026
11:27 BotSteve Title: RARE Early 1900s Radio Wet Battery Glass Voltaic Cells | eBay
11:28 Experimentonomen dru, i HATE coffee, cannot stand it!
11:31 Experimentonomen and to add to the insult, its freezin in here :/
11:41 Sgt_Lemming I LURVE coffee
11:42 Sgt_Lemming to give you an idea how much I love it, I spent $130 on a stove top stainless steel coffee maker, because I managed to destroy two aluminium ones in a year
11:42 Experimentonomen YUCK!!
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11:47 Ponko congrats kelly
11:49 Ponko O_O SaWzall?
11:49 dbshortwave mmm
11:49 dbshortwave coffee.......
11:49 * Experimentonomen listens to fast techno/rave/hardstyle type music to stay awake
11:50 * dbshortwave hugs my cup
11:50 * Experimentonomen pees in the coffee
11:50 Experimentonomen ä luke wam beer is much better than stinkin coffee
11:51 Sgt_Lemming .yt drug against war
11:51 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4-bUYU3BH8
11:51 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen^
11:52 NeWtoz Ponko, one day you'll watch a video and it will all make sense
11:52 Ponko ok
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11:52 * Pnk-Racing is in 19th
11:52 Experimentonomen sawzall = tigersaw and is a bit like a hacksaw on steroids and viagra
11:59 Av_Nekoroms mantere: moip :)
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12:07 lwq1996 well off to school kiddos
12:08 dbshortwave HAHAHA
12:08 dbshortwave http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article​.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/07/BA1D1M99V5.DTL
12:08 BotSteve Title: 'Mythbusters' cannonball hits Dublin home, minivan
12:08 dbshortwave i hope they air that one
12:09 lwqlearnin-kinda damn. send me that in a pm. i cant view it now
12:11 dbshortwave HAHAHA it took a toyota minivan to stop the damn thing
12:11 dbshortwave after crashing through a brick wall a house and hitting a roof
12:12 dbshortwave it will be on facebook
12:18 Thermoelectric I want to see the next Captains blog. Sounds like they had a interesting day.
12:19 Av_Nekoroms http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/g​rand_rapids/gas-leak-leonard-nw-120611
12:19 BotSteve Title: Leonard reopened after gas leak | WOOD TV8
12:19 Av_Nekoroms ye
12:20 Thermoelectric Gotta love unmarked gas lines.
12:31 yNos so what going on?
12:31 * yNos pours a hot cuppa coffee
12:32 Av_Nekoroms yNos: just waiting captains blog
12:32 yNos yup
12:32 yNos me too
12:32 yNos i am wondering what he edited out.
12:35 * Experimentonomen pours all the coffee in the toilet and flushes
12:44 Thermoelectric Was there a lot of drama?
12:44 yNos not really
12:44 yNos lots of cold
12:46 Experimentonomen unmarked gas lines should not have any gas in them :/
12:47 * dbshortwave makes more coffee
12:48 yNos the building is old enough that the gas lines and steam lines are 3 inch black pipe.
12:48 yNos straight out of the 50s yo
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12:48 yNos it was ok then
12:50 dbshortwave so it was an attempt to clear some old pipe and hit gas right ?
12:50 Vladdeh the article said it wasn't the geek group, they just noticed/reported it
12:51 Vladdeh the wood tv8 one above
12:51 SparkyProjects Chris said they nicked a pipe, you don't just nick a steel pipe, sure it wasn't copper ?
12:51 Av_Nekoroms Vladdeh: how do you read it like that
12:51 Av_Nekoroms Grand Rapids fire and police personnel because of a gas leak in the former YMCA building.
12:51 SparkyProjects Or were they cutting the pipe thinking it was not a gas pipe
12:51 Av_Nekoroms former ymca is the geekgroup
12:52 Vladdeh A group member told 24 Hour News 8 the gas leak had nothing to do with them. They noticed the leak and called authorities.
12:52 yNos SparkyProjects: there were 3 black pipes
12:52 Vladdeh 2nd to last paragraph
12:52 yNos one was gas
12:53 Av_Nekoroms Vladdeh: it was IN the building
12:53 yNos it was a 50s era black pipe gas line mixed in with the same sized steam line.
12:53 Druidic_Rifleman yNos
12:53 yNos in the basement
12:53 Druidic_Rifleman PM me your brewing plans
12:53 SparkyProjects Av_Nekoroms: did you watch the video on the woodtv channel ?
12:53 Av_Nekoroms Vladdeh: has nothing to do about them causing it or not
12:53 Druidic_Rifleman K?
12:53 Av_Nekoroms SparkyProjects: nope
12:53 Av_Nekoroms SparkyProjects: videogame live is playing now
12:53 Av_Nekoroms saints row 3 :)
12:54 Av_Nekoroms does the video tell something different
12:54 yNos Wait for the captains blog, i am pretty sure he has video of the line.
12:54 Vladdeh Av_Nekoroms: no need to be so confrontational. i'm just saying how i interpreted the article. i don't know the full story
12:54 yNos its not out yet
12:54 Druidic_Rifleman yNos?
12:54 Vladdeh :)
12:54 SparkyProjects Chris mentioned contractors were removing old pipe, they nicked an unmarked gas pipe, noticed and reported it
12:55 Av_Nekoroms thats dum
12:55 yNos shit happens
12:55 Vladdeh exactly
12:55 Av_Nekoroms but contractors are ofthen like that
12:55 Vladdeh they noticed it and took action. everyone was okay is the important part
12:55 Druidic_Rifleman which contractors?
12:55 Druidic_Rifleman kegs?
12:56 Av_Nekoroms here they accidentally cut up one 8 inch gas line :)
12:56 Av_Nekoroms they were supposed to remove the other empty pipe near it :)
12:56 Thermoelectric I doubt they would have brought Keags for any other work, Druid.
12:57 Av_Nekoroms there are good metalworkers..
12:57 Av_Nekoroms but for one good there are 20 that doesnt care for anything
12:57 Sgt_Lemming yNos, I discovered something annoying today
12:58 Sgt_Lemming my waterprood riding shoes do just as good a job keeping the water in, as they do keeping it out
12:58 yNos whas that?
12:58 yNos :D
12:58 yNos yup
12:58 yNos you need a tyvek suit ;)
12:58 Sgt_Lemming I rode around with like 5cm of water in my shoes for 5 hours >_<
12:58 Av_Nekoroms dry suit :)
12:58 yNos frogtogs/roadtoads ftw
12:58 Sgt_Lemming lol
12:59 Sgt_Lemming no what I need are some garters me thinks
12:59 Sgt_Lemming it was all just surface water on the road flicking up and hitting my legs, then running down into my shoes
12:59 Thermoelectric Of a miniature bilge pump to just suck all the water out of your shoes.
12:59 Thermoelectric Or*
13:00 Av_Nekoroms just put a straw there and you have drink :)
13:01 Druidic_Rifleman Surfdri
13:01 Druidic_Rifleman XD
13:01 Druidic_Rifleman I want to see if they can be used for diving
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13:02 killakee maybe master hdd fail on live stream ?
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13:03 tlockley morning
13:03 killakee morning :)
13:03 SparkyProjects Might be full killakee, though most dvr's overwrite from the start again
13:04 NeWtoz we'll just be silly and say the tape needs to be rewind first
13:05 NeWtoz rewound*
13:06 dbshortwave hard drive rental... be kind rewind
13:06 dbshortwave x.x
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13:07 killakee hehehe
13:07 tlockley http://www.blogcdn.com/www.dvguru.com​/media/2006/10/dvdrewinderdevice.jpg
13:07 killakee how meany gigs do that system use pr night XD
13:07 NeWtoz man, I'm tired early
13:07 NeWtoz time to get to be
13:07 NeWtoz d
13:07 killakee or just smal hdd`s
13:08 Sgt_Lemming killakee, a lot of them will only record on movement
13:09 Sgt_Lemming or record 1 frame a second etc
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13:09 killakee ah i c ..
13:10 Hackbat http://www.digilentinc.com/Products/Deta​il.cfm?NavPath=2,400,790&amp;Prod=BASYS2 waaaaaant
13:10 BotSteve Title: Digilent Inc. - Digital Design Engineer's Source
13:11 tlockley what would you do with one of those?
13:11 tlockley as in you personally
13:12 SparkyProjects The ones i've dealt with record constantly, though one frame per sec, and up to 32 cameras, not sure how big the hdd was, but once it was full it would overwrite previous data
13:12 SparkyProjects Lasted about 3 days i think
13:13 Hackbat mainly learning and dev work
13:14 Sgt_Lemming Hackbat, take a look into XMos SOC's
13:15 Hackbat do they do PLDs?
13:21 killakee wohooo.. just got the building permit for my hackerspace :) sweeeet
13:27 tonsofpcs tlockley!
13:27 tlockley hey tonsofpcs
13:30 tonsofpcs how's the island nation doing?
13:31 tonsofpcs I saw pictures of our VP visiting :-p
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13:36 tlockley everything is good, its pouring buckets here
13:36 tlockley thankfully i wasnt here for thanksgiving
13:36 tlockley so i didnt have to deal with all of that crazyness
13:37 tlockley though i hear it was relatively low-key
13:37 tlockley which is better than i can say about Obamas visits to MV
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13:47 tonsofpcs i'd imagine visiting an island with a few thousand residents would be low key....
13:48 Sgt_Lemming MV?
13:48 dbshortwave homies on GGR
13:49 tonsofpcs martha's vinyard, I guess
13:49 tonsofpcs most important part of the wikipedia article on Nantucket (hey, I was looking up the population):
13:50 tonsofpcs It was the setting for the hit NBC sitcom Wings (NBC TV series).
13:51 tlockley except they only filmes a couple of stock shots here IIRC
13:51 tonsofpcs probably, but it was still an awesome TV show.
13:51 tlockley that i cant pass judgement on
13:53 tlockley though I can confirm that you can fly just about any boeing 7X7 into nantucket and land it
13:53 tonsofpcs I want to see the A380.
13:53 tlockley That would be interesting
13:55 tonsofpcs lol @ wikipedia "notable residents" "the man from nantucket"
13:56 tlockley lol @ John Kerry
13:57 tonsofpcs ok, i gotta get going to work, I probably should be there in 5 minutes...
13:58 tlockley have fun if you can
13:59 tonsofpcs (also, how are Tom & Tom not listed? :-p)
14:01 tlockley because one is a rich kid who was a crappy busness man and the other just dissappeared
14:01 tlockley after the toms sold Juice Guys, one started a TV station
14:01 tlockley and now its bankrupt or something
14:07 yNos lol
14:07 yNos the man from nantucket
14:07 yNos .insult
14:07 BotSteve Hey, yNos, your mom is so old, she farts dust.
14:08 tonsofpcs there once was a man from nantucket, who made juice necktar in his [rhyme].  He sold it all off, tried doing TV, now he lives with his [rhyme]
14:09 yNos pocket
14:09 yNos now he lives in a bucket
14:09 yNos ?
14:09 yNos .insult
14:09 BotSteve Hey, yNos, i'd hit you, but I don't want to get stupid on my hands.
14:10 yNos .fortune
14:10 BotSteve If it happens once, it's a bug. If it happens twice, it's a feature. If it happens more than twice, it's a design philosophy.
14:10 yNos .fortune
14:10 BotSteve You will lose an important tape file.
14:10 yNos .fortune
14:10 BotSteve Hackers of the world, unite!
14:10 yNos .fortune
14:10 BotSteve The primary function of the design engineer is to make things difficult for the fabricator and impossible for the serviceman.
14:10 yNos .fortune
14:10 BotSteve There is no distinction between any AI program and some existent game.
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14:10 yNos lol
14:10 yNos lol
14:10 yNos .fortune
14:10 BotSteve I am a computer. I am dumber than any human and smarter than any administrator.
14:12 tlockley tonsofpcs: from what i can read an A380 could land on nantucket if the pilot has balls of steel and a deep wallet
14:16 yNos Cprossu: have you played with Mallory yet?
14:30 yNos anyone have ideas for a foucault pendulum driver?
14:31 yNos anyone have an american journal of physics login? http://ajp.aapt.org/resource/1/ajp​ias/v76/i2/p188_s1?isAuthorized=no
14:31 BotSteve Title: The driving mechanism for a Foucault pendulum (revisited) | Browse - American Journal of Physics
14:31 SparkyProjects yNos A strong clock 'escapement' electrically powered and on a swivel
14:34 Ponko back
14:34 tlockley what were you watchin Ponko
14:35 Ponko i was playing Fomula 1
14:35 tlockley ooooooh, which year?
14:36 SparkyProjects yNoshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmx5iy4qwhI
14:36 SparkyProjects The coil above right gives a kick when the toggle activates.
14:36 BotSteve Title: Hipp Toggle - YouTube
14:37 Ponko i think 2004
14:37 yNos i was thinking a bunch of coils (at least 36 - every 10 degrees) each with its own driver, hall effect sensor/opamp up a a few 10s of cm so it doesnt self trigger, giving it a kick whenever it gets close enough.
14:37 tlockley nice
14:38 yNos s single 555 pwm setup to drive all of the coils, the hall sensor just need to pass the pwm signal to the drivers.
14:38 yNos i have it in my head
14:39 yNos just have to put it on paper.
14:39 egrsteve|away what are you creating?
14:40 SparkyProjects You may influence the rotation like that.
14:40 SparkyProjects Just a single coil at the top, and let the mechanism spin freely on bearings, you could power it via slip rings
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14:45 SparkyProjects yNos http://www.astro.louisville​.edu/foucault/pendulum.pdf
14:48 SparkyProjects http://www3.sympatico.ca/surfin.dude/c​reative/clocks/foucault/foucault.html
14:48 BotSteve Title: My Foucault Pendulum
14:54 yNos SparkyProjects: our period:
14:54 yNos # echo 24/s\(42.78\)|bc -l
14:54 yNos -25.72708448932399450971
14:54 yNos negative..
14:54 yNos hrm..
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14:57 SparkyProjects That second link uses a coil at the bottom (in the table)
14:58 yNos yup
14:58 yNos watching it.
14:58 yNos i think that would be a better way to go
14:58 yNos a single centered coil
15:00 yNos hmm.. since it need a full range of motion, i am not sure a regular escapment would work.
15:00 yNos to give it the full range anyway..
15:01 SparkyProjects An escapement would work, you would need to allow the escapement to rotate
15:01 yNos SparkyProjects: i think i need to see your idea, do you have sketchup?
15:01 yNos ahhh
15:01 yNos i see
15:03 SparkyProjects You just need a point to hang the pendulum, the escapement could be a coil or 2, maybe soething like that gpo clock
15:03 sndwrx mornin'
15:03 yNos a ring of halls up top all not'd togather.. adjusted so when none are on it charges the one center coil down below.
15:03 SparkyProjects As the swing diinishes, the hipp trip activates the coil to give it a kick
15:04 yNos hiya sndwrx
15:05 yNos out latitude is approx 43 deg north... period=24/sine(43)
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15:09 yNos not too cool
15:09 yNos erp...
15:09 yNos too cool..
15:09 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LdlSAN1yks
15:09 BotSteve Title: How To Make Organically-Shaped Gears - YouTube
15:13 Sgt_Lemming http://www.fmylife.com/kids/14806356
15:13 BotSteve Title: FML: while in my room sleeping, my little brother deemed it necessary to come in and drop a book on my...
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15:22 Seroster Any real news on what went down yesterday?
15:27 yNos Seroster: not officially
15:27 Sgt_Lemming ...?
15:27 Sgt_Lemming what happened?
15:28 Monkeh I sometimes worry about mechanics.
15:28 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, Lab was evacuated, firemen were called, they dug around a bit, and turned off the gas
15:28 Sgt_Lemming oh fun
15:29 Monkeh You take a car in to be looked at and they pronounce the battery buggered without even noticing the earth connection is so loose it's turned into a bearing.
15:29 Sgt_Lemming lol
15:29 Monkeh Seroster: Contractor nicked a gas pipe.
15:29 Seroster yep
15:29 Seroster Wich one?
15:29 Seroster The crappy one? xD
15:29 Monkeh Seroster: Big angry one under the stairs, apparently.
15:29 Monkeh Seroster: Unmarked.
15:29 Monkeh Right next to steam pipes.
15:30 Seroster PSA; Please mark you fucking pipes.
15:30 Sgt_Lemming PSA; please follow all applicable building codes when working on the infrastructure of a building
15:31 Sgt_Lemming whether it be electrical, gas, whatever
15:31 Druidic_Rifleman yNos you there?
15:31 yNos PSA - This building was built 60 years ago, shit happens
15:31 yNos well, this part of the building
15:31 Druidic_Rifleman and the people who owned it we're idiots
15:31 yNos yup
15:32 yNos lots of fun things have happened along the way, this is just one of the bigger ones.
15:32 Monkeh One which got you on the news.
15:32 yNos yup
15:33 Sgt_Lemming good thing someone didn't fire up the coils or thumper/stomper during that time
15:33 yNos mainly because we shutdown a few city blocks of a main street
15:33 yNos i doubt anyone is that stupid.
15:33 yNos if so, they deserve to be in the building.
15:33 Monkeh I also doubt the gas would've got that far before they got alerted.
15:33 yNos the whole building stunk
15:34 Seroster When a pipe starts vomiting freezing stink at you  it's likely you'll notice...
15:34 Sgt_Lemming thank god for methyl mercaptan eh?
15:34 Monkeh It will have, but it takes a while for the gas to reach a high enough ratio to air to go boom
15:35 Sgt_Lemming it doesn't take all that long for it to reach a high enough ratioto go FWOOSH though
15:35 Monkeh Unless the guy cut RIGHT through the pipe
15:35 Monkeh Which would be.. eep.
15:35 Sgt_Lemming and with that volume of gas, the overpressure wave is pretty devastating
15:36 Seroster How was the evac done? Screaming and radios?
15:36 Druidic_Rifleman Is the CB up yet
15:37 Sgt_Lemming CB?
15:37 Seroster Captains blog
15:37 Seroster No
15:37 Sgt_Lemming oh, I thought you mean CB as in CB radio
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15:37 Sgt_Lemming methinks building wide intercom might be a good idea
15:38 Sgt_Lemming or PA system at the least
15:38 dbshortwave http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ATWATER-KENT-​BREADBOARD-mod-09-no-4445-TUBE-RADIO-RECEIVER​-1923-UV-201-/250944647760?pt=LH_DefaultDomai​n_0&amp;hash=item3a6d777250#ht_2227wt_1139      wants!!!!
15:38 BotSteve Title: VINTAGE ATWATER KENT BREADBOARD mod 09 no.4445 TUBE RADIO RECEIVER 1923 UV-201 | eBay
15:38 sndwrx haha "screaming and radios"
15:38 Sgt_Lemming probably an apt description
15:38 Sgt_Lemming certainly works for a number of buildings I have been in
15:39 sndwrx There should be rotating red beacons, air raid sirens and PA speakers in every room of the labs. :D
15:39 Cprossu mornin' everyone
15:39 tlockley hey Cprossu
15:39 sndwrx mornin' Cprossu
15:39 Seroster sndwrx, Well how do you think you clear a building?
15:39 Monkeh Afternoon
15:39 Sgt_Lemming sndwrx, red and orange, and a dual tone whooper
15:39 Sgt_Lemming and the speaker as well
15:41 Monkeh Try the power plant casualty alarm off an Ohio-class. That gets attention.
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15:42 Sgt_Lemming got link?
15:42 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: http://www.policeintercept​or.com/sounds/726ppalm.wav
15:42 Monkeh Play it loud. ;)
15:43 Cprossu oooh that looks nice
15:43 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​CZ8WRDVgKrk&amp;feature=related
15:43 BotSteve Title: Wooden combination lock - YouTube
15:43 Sgt_Lemming oh that is good Monkeh
15:43 Sgt_Lemming that would get attention
15:43 Seroster Cprossu, Matthiaswandel, eh?
15:43 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Also good is the collison alarm. http://www.policeinterceptor.com/sounds/726col.wav
15:44 Cprossu I clicked it as a related link from that organic gears video that I don't care about lol
15:44 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: These are the OH FUCK WE'RE ABOUT TO DIE alarms. :)
15:44 Sgt_Lemming yeah
15:44 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​NnUeipeDCZ8&amp;feature=related   LOL
15:44 BotSteve Title: Chimney falling wrong way - YouTube
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15:46 Monkeh Seroster: I love the guy cackling at that.
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15:46 Seroster Ey Thermoelectric?
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15:48 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I also like this one: http://www.policeintercepto​r.com/sounds/625msljet.wav
15:48 Sgt_Lemming that's a common one for automated vehicles
15:48 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Related, yeah. It's the 'you don't want to be here' alarm.
15:49 Sgt_Lemming I've done audio effects for a number of theatre shows Monkeh
15:49 Sgt_Lemming gimme a minute and I will upload a squence I did
15:51 Cprossu stuff you never want to hear - > http://www.policeintercept​or.com/sounds/688PPALM.WAV
15:51 Monkeh Cprossu: Yeah. I prefer the 726.
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15:52 Cprossu http://www.policeinterceptor.com/sounds/EAM1.wav
15:52 Cprossu ^ speaking of we're going to die sounds
15:53 Sgt_Lemming no, that's an "everyone else is going to die" sound
15:53 Cprossu you too
15:53 Cprossu lol
15:53 Monkeh hehe
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15:55 BotSteve Sensei. *bows*
15:57 yNos dbshortwave: that rx is sexah
15:58 yNos wonder if we could find a schem
15:59 yNos and the tubes..
16:01 Sgt_Lemming FFS!!!!
16:02 Sgt_Lemming trying to find somewhere I can upload this damn sound file so people can stream it, one sight fails, the other kicks up a shit cause it has copyrighted music in it
16:02 Sgt_Lemming -sight+site
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16:04 wannabe-zz Ponko1 - thanks :D
16:06 Sgt_Lemming anyone know somewhere I can upload an mp3 without a lot of buggering around?
16:06 wannabe1987 dropbox
16:06 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: ompldr.org
16:07 Ponko1 you're welcome wannabe1987
16:08 wannabe1987 i'm pretty freaking happy
16:08 Ponko1 i can imagine
16:08 wannabe1987 now i have to go to the SOS office today (also known as DMV or BMV)  and then go help grandma make banket :D  she has limited use of her arm (arthritis and prior surgery) so i get to help :D
16:09 yNos too cool : http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp​;feature=endscreen&amp;v=6pxjSBQgceo
16:09 BotSteve Title: Plane Crashes Almost Against Danube Tower Donauturm Vienna Austria Accident Crash Wien Attack FPV RC - YouTube
16:10 yNos would be cool to do that with stereo cameras.
16:10 yNos we have 2 video channels in the ham band iirc
16:11 Sgt_Lemming ffs
16:11 Sgt_Lemming even omploader doesn't like me tonight >_<
16:11 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: ufail
16:11 yNos make a torrent?
16:13 Seroster How poisonous is NiCr wire?
16:13 yNos dont eat it
16:13 Seroster I wont
16:14 Seroster .wa resistance of 0.4mm nicr wire
16:14 yNos how long?
16:14 BotSteve Couldn't pull result from Wolfram Alpha
16:15 Druidic_Rifleman stereo cameras as in 3d yNos
16:15 Seroster yNos, Ohms per centimeter
16:15 yNos http://www.wiretron.com/nicrdat.html
16:15 BotSteve Title: Wire: Nichrome 80 (tm) & Other Resistance Alloys - Tech Data
16:16 Seroster Inch diameter -.-
16:16 Seroster .c 0.4mm to awg
16:16 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
16:16 yNos too bad you dont have a handy calculator.
16:16 Seroster .c 0.4mm to inches
16:16 BotSteve 0.0157480315 inches
16:16 Seroster .015
16:16 sndwrx Sgt_Lemming: What about vocaroo?
16:16 Sgt_Lemming http://ompldr.org/vYm1vdA/Opening%20Sequence.rar
16:16 Seroster 26gauge
16:17 Sgt_Lemming apparently omploader has problems with .mp3 files >_<
16:17 sndwrx oh.  it downloaded a rar file.  I expected it to play embedded or something.  I failed to look closely at the URL.  :P
16:17 Seroster 22 .0253 1.015 1.055    so it's ONE OHM PER FOOT?!
16:17 Seroster Copper is like one ohm per foot.
16:18 yNos Cprossu: you around?
16:18 Sgt_Lemming download that one and tell me what you think guys
16:18 Seroster http://www.wiretron.com/graphics/nicrcurr.jpg  At what voltage? -.-
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16:19 Seroster 2.670 < Is that the ameriacan way of saying "2670"?
16:19 Seroster ...If yes, why is there a damn decimal point in there?   If not why is it called resistance wire if it is only 2.5 ohms per foot?
16:19 yNos Druidic_Rifleman: stereo cameras as in 2 cameras feeding one headset.
16:20 Druidic_Rifleman Hmmm Would love to Do a uav project
16:20 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, nichrome is resistance wire, but it's still pretty low resistance normally
16:20 Seroster 2ohms per foot?
16:20 Sgt_Lemming you want to turn the power into heat after all, and if the resistance is high that's hard to do
16:20 wannabe1987 time to head home and get things printed and then go to the sos
16:21 Seroster Then it should be called heat wire, not resistance wire...
16:22 Sgt_Lemming and how do you turn electrical energy into heat the easiest way?
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16:23 Seroster Wire with high resistance should be called reistance wire,   Wire designed to produce lots of heat should be called heat wire or heating wire.  You said yourself that a high resistance isnt the optimal way of making heat.
16:23 mashpriborintorg hiya
16:23 mashpriborintorg glad to know the lab didn't explode
16:24 Seroster We all are
16:25 SparkyProjects Seroster, you can use nicr wire as a resistance without producing heat :P
16:25 mashpriborintorg yeah to do simple, lots of heat = lots of energy = lots of amps = potentially low resistance
16:25 yNos lunchtime
16:26 wannabe1987 :(
16:26 wannabe1987 my pill won't go down....:(
16:26 wannabe1987 there :(
16:26 Seroster Would about a centimeter of nicr powered by a 9v battery be able to ignite say, gunpowder?
16:27 Sgt_Lemming probably
16:27 Sgt_Lemming as the wire would likely fuse
16:28 Sgt_Lemming if it's 2ohm per foot, then it's going to be like .06 ohm for 1 cm
16:28 Seroster cya
16:28 Seroster more or less
16:31 SparkyProjects that's about 150 amps, producing 1350 watts :P
16:31 SparkyProjects If you want to ignite gunpoweder, just use a strand of wire from a flex cable
16:31 Sgt_Lemming except a 9v battery really isn't gonna give you 150A in a hurry :-P
16:32 SparkyProjects Depends on the size of the 9 volt battery :D
16:32 Sgt_Lemming true
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16:37 killakee oh look a scraper
16:38 killakee cheking the generator
16:38 killakee he whent away
16:38 killakee hehe there is nothing to take
16:38 killakee XD
16:38 wannabe1987 hi killakee
16:40 wannabe1987 guess what, killakee
16:40 wannabe1987 .topic
16:40 killakee congratulations ? ;)
16:40 wannabe1987 yep :D
16:40 killakee what is it for work?
16:41 wannabe1987 nursing aide
16:41 wannabe1987 in peoples homes
16:41 killakee ah
16:41 killakee cool
16:41 killakee i hope to get a job realy soon :/
16:41 killakee its boring not to have :)
16:41 wannabe1987 i know!
16:42 wannabe1987 i've been wanting to work....
16:44 wannabe1987 there
16:44 wannabe1987 now that i made the browser work
16:44 wannabe1987 i read what i had to
16:44 wannabe1987 and now i'm off to see the wizard aka the gov'ment :/
16:44 wannabe1987 bye!!!!
16:45 killakee bye :)
16:54 Seroster SparkyProjects, A strand of flex isnt as reliable or nice
16:54 Seroster Do you know what a kinder egg is?
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16:55 Sgt_Lemming mmm, kinder surprise
16:56 Seroster Good
16:56 Seroster It is a tradition to make ginger bread houses here
16:57 Seroster And a subculture tradition is to blow them up in january
16:57 Seroster A kinder egg full of gunpowder with a nicr wire going through it
17:01 mashpriborintorg forbidden in USA I believe
17:04 mashpriborintorg they should do Kinder eggs with electronic parts inside, for us geeks
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17:24 wannabe1987 anyone know of a good file converter for windows? this is driving me nuts
17:25 sndwrx What kind of conversion, wannabe1987 ?
17:25 wannabe1987 i altered teh photos online and now they won't show up in windows
17:25 wannabe1987 i don't know......
17:26 wannabe1987 only one of the photos downloaded in a format teh computer likes.  i don't understand!
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17:26 sndwrx What is the file extension?
17:26 wannabe1987 they are .jpgs thats the strangeness of it all
17:26 killakee are there enny copper in the geek groups generator ?
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17:27 killakee there was a dude cheking it out earlier
17:27 sndwrx Are you positive it's .jpg and not filename.jpg.ext ?
17:27 killakee just saying
17:27 wannabe1987 could be.  but i saved them as a jpeg
17:28 sndwrx killakee: Someone else mentioned that earlier, mashpriborintorg I think.
17:28 wannabe1987 killakee mentioned it earlier...
17:28 wannabe1987 thats what i saw anyway :P
17:28 killakee :)
17:28 killakee jupp
17:29 sndwrx wannabe1987: Well, check to be sure you're viewing file extensions and that the .jpg isn't just a part of the filename.
17:29 sndwrx otherwise, try this:  http://www.iaza.com/
17:29 BotSteve Title: iaza: Free Online Image Conversion - Simple & Easy Converter (Images, Graphics, Avatars, Anime ...)
17:29 sndwrx What program did you use to edit the images?
17:29 sndwrx Rather what online service.
17:29 wannabe1987 pixlr
17:29 sndwrx Something like Sumo paint?
17:29 sndwrx ah, okay.
17:29 wannabe1987 i used an instructable!
17:30 wannabe1987 and made my sisters gift for christmas....
17:31 wannabe1987 and now it wont print :P
17:32 sndwrx I'm too worn out to think critically and help troubleshoot.  Would be much easier if I saw it first-hand.
17:33 sndwrx With that said, eating something will probably help that.
17:35 wannabe1987 don't worry, i can't pirnt it today....we're running out of black ink
17:35 wannabe1987 so it'll have to get done this weekend or next week.  mom'll buy more ink on friday
17:36 wannabe1987 and yay? my m usic printed.....all like 24 pages of it....
17:37 wannabe1987 well, its on my dropbox, so i can show you l8r if theres wifi.  anyway, i need to run to the sec of state now and get my tabs renewed.....
17:37 wannabe1987 and then to grandmas, i'll be online there too.
17:37 wannabe1987 bye all
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17:59 MoxieMike___ arg...why is there no captain's blog for yesterday yet?
18:00 killakee <MoxieMike___>gas leak
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18:01 killakee so they had what captain call it ... a day :P
18:01 MoxieMike___ right
18:01 mashpriborintorg Teardown of a fiber optics fusion splicer: http://youtu.be/shOfshA53fI
18:01 BotSteve Title: Fitel fiber optic fusion splicer - Teardown and repair - YouTube
18:02 producerBillWork what happen to captain?
18:02 killakee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36WPbWHPzfM
18:02 BotSteve Title: New Lab? Could be with your help! - YouTube
18:02 producerBillWork i watch that
18:03 MoxieMike___ yesterday I was trying to figure out more as it was happening and I was told to wait for the blog
18:04 mashpriborintorg http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/g​rand_rapids/gas-leak-leonard-nw-120611
18:04 BotSteve Title: Leonard reopened after gas leak | WOOD TV8
18:04 mashpriborintorg nice interview of the Captain
18:04 producerBillWork ya,,,, kind of funny
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18:09 yNos so
18:09 yNos hows it going?
18:09 yNos post-lunch yNos is comatose.
18:09 yNos brain function: ________________________
18:10 yNos should be: /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
18:10 * Sgt_Lemming is trying to play TA, but it keeps crashing >_<
18:10 MoxieMike___ i'm watching the captain being interviewed on channel 8
18:10 yNos Sgt_Lemming: Titsn'Ass?
18:10 Sgt_Lemming Total Annihilation
18:10 yNos less interested
18:10 Sgt_Lemming most awesome strategy game of all time
18:10 MoxieMike___ tits n' ass sound better
18:10 yNos yup
18:12 MoxieMike___ i should actually get off my ass today
18:12 yNos why?
18:12 MoxieMike___ i'm going to see what's happening at my friend's brewery
18:12 ajprog_laptop yNos: then time to come down here and do some cleanup/demolation
18:12 yNos nobody ever got fat by not playing irc all day!
18:12 MoxieMike___ because i slept until 1130
18:12 yNos ajprog_laptop: dinner with the parents tonight.
18:12 yNos same as every weds ;)
18:13 ajprog_laptop but that is tonight not this afternoon ;)
18:13 ajprog_laptop I remember
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18:14 yNos they like to eat at 5pm.
18:15 yNos old people's dinner seems to be a lot earlier than most others.
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18:20 BatSteve-Away That's because they spend all night partying, and you're not invited
18:20 BotSteve BatSteve-Away: I have the following messages for you:
18:20 BotSteve At 23 Nov 22:34Z, Cprossu asked me to tell BatSteve-Away that BotSteve followed the wrong link when given this as input http://web.archive.org/web/1996102​6164556/http://www.microsoft.com/
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18:20 BatSteve interesting
18:20 BatSteve test:  http://web.archive.org/web/1996102​6164556/http://www.microsoft.com/
18:20 BotSteve Title: Microsoft Corporation: Software, Smartphones, Online, Games, Cloud Computing, IT Business Technology, Downloads
18:21 BatSteve BotSteve: tell Cprossu that the bot behaved correctly when given this link: http://web.archive.org/web/1996102​6164556/http://www.microsoft.com/ - it returned the <title> element, as it should have
18:21 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
18:21 BotSteve Title: Microsoft Corporation: Software, Smartphones, Online, Games, Cloud Computing, IT Business Technology, Downloads
18:22 Cprossu interesting
18:22 BotSteve Cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
18:22 BotSteve At 18:21Z, BatSteve asked me to tell Cprossu that the bot behaved correctly when given this link: http://web.archive.org/web/1996102​6164556/http://www.microsoft.com/ - it returned the <title> element, as it should have
18:22 Cprossu glad to here BatSteve
18:23 Cprossu yNos you at the lab or been pm'ed by SparkyProjects yet?
18:23 BatSteve also, why did I come back from away?  I'm just about to leave again.
18:23 BatSteve ):
18:24 ajprog_laptop Cprossu: no on the first for yNos
18:26 Cprossu ahhh ok
18:26 Cprossu pm ajprog_laptop in that case.
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18:32 Monkeh Ooohh, shit, that's cool
18:33 Monkeh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzDxomj0Wqs
18:33 BotSteve Title: Mid Week Madness CRT Overdrive - YouTube
18:37 mashpriborintorg just saw it seems we have the same subscriptions :p
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18:37 Monkeh mashpriborintorg: :)
18:45 yNos :D
18:46 yNos just made a bunch of calls to see if i could find some place to get a couple jump suits for the VSL
18:47 yNos everyone says "We'll call you back"
18:49 wannabe1987 ewww puke :(
18:49 killakee i want a crome toroid :)
18:49 tonsofpcs VSL?
18:50 tonsofpcs chrome? why not ferrite?
18:50 wannabe1987 vehicular sciences lab ?
18:50 tonsofpcs ah
18:50 killakee <tonsofpcs> cromed toroid for topload ;)
18:50 killakee shiny and smooth :)
18:51 MoxieMike___ i'd like TiN
18:51 killakee tin?
18:52 MoxieMike___ titanium nitride
18:53 killakee heh
18:53 MoxieMike___ it's only a coating, but it's my favorite thin film so far
18:53 killakee shiny?
18:54 MoxieMike___ and gold colored
18:54 MoxieMike___ you've seen a drill bit that said it was titanium right?
18:55 Electricguy worst model name ever... Honda Fitta http://www.text.nu/storage/honda%20fitta%20bil​d.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1251382014868
18:55 killakee ah
18:55 Electricguy Fitta = pussy in swedish...
18:55 killakee <MoxieMike___>yeah that would be cool
18:56 killakee <Electricguy>and norwegian XD
18:56 Electricguy lol ok XD
18:56 killakee hvor har du parkert hondafitta?
18:56 killakee hmm
18:56 Electricguy hahaha XD
18:56 killakee they didnt think that trough
18:57 Electricguy nah, not at all XD
18:57 MoxieMike___ chevy didn't think through with the Nova either
18:57 killakee nova?
18:57 MoxieMike___ no va means no go in spanish
18:58 killakee HAHA
18:58 Electricguy lol!
18:58 killakee good one
18:58 killakee lets build a muscle car and call it no go XD
18:58 killakee good idea
18:59 MoxieMike___ it wasn't much of a muscle car either
18:59 MoxieMike___ it was built on a carolla frame
18:59 Electricguy nah most novas only got a 6 cylinder engine. a pretty small car too. lol
19:00 Electricguy a total fail car :P
19:00 killakee the same with mazda funai
19:00 yNos sorry, reading on linnen companies in the area..
19:02 Cprossu Electricguy that was not a total fail car
19:02 Cprossu a total fail car was the "Vega"
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19:03 yNos yugo?
19:03 Cprossu I'd take a yugo over a vega
19:03 yNos wha?
19:04 Cprossu the 3 cyl engine in the yugo was more reliable
19:04 killakee <Cprossu>no no and no¨
19:04 Electricguy Mitsubishi Pajero is half fail. Pajero is a slang for wanker in spanish... XD
19:04 Cprossu killakee: do you know about the chevy vega engine?
19:04 killakee totaly failed car is : the only norwegian car made... the name you ask ?  TROLL
19:05 killakee yes troll
19:05 killakee XD
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19:05 Cprossu killakee: it had a german engine with bosch fuel injection o_o
19:06 Cprossu even though only 5 were built =P
19:06 Cprossu do you know of the fail the vega was killakee?
19:06 killakee well ... no
19:06 killakee :P
19:07 Cprossu it was an aluminum engine block..
19:07 Cprossu WITH A CAST IRON HEAD
19:08 Electricguy W....T...F?!?! o_O
19:08 Electricguy WHY?
19:09 killakee what that just sound idiotic XD
19:12 killakee what have youtube smoked??!! have they tryed to "streamline" the upload thingy too :( "#¤%"#¤!!!
19:12 killakee i gess google ownt youtube .. to be correct
19:12 killakee :P
19:14 KernelTrap kthe new youtube layout is superior
19:14 KernelTrap killakee: the old youtube layout was cramped and awkward, everything was stacked vertically
19:15 killakee well when you upload a video you have to wait for it to finnish to write what you want on the vid ?
19:15 SparkyProjects New blog is up, with the gas leak
19:15 yNos YAY!! http://www.youtube.com/phy​sicsduck#p/u/0/DeiSz_q9zSg
19:15 BotSteve Title: Physicsduck's Channel - YouTube
19:15 yNos lawl
19:15 killakee THANX SPARKY :D
19:21 killakee and then there was silence XD
19:24 yNos so where is SaWzall?
19:25 wannabe1987 http://www.wwmt.com/articles/h​ome-1399209-county-stunt.html
19:25 wannabe1987 .....
19:25 BotSteve Title: Mythbusters crew shoots cannonball through family's home | home, county, stunt - WWMT NEWSCHANNEL 3
19:25 wannabe1987 sawzall = NeWtoz
19:26 yNos ;)
19:26 wannabe1987 yNos is tgg open for the public yet?
19:27 yNos nop
19:27 yNos not oficially
19:27 wannabe1987 didn't think so
19:27 yNos few moths yet
19:27 wannabe1987 k.  grandma asked :P
19:31 * Cprossu watches
19:31 * wannabe1987 watches as well
19:32 wannabe1987 boden has a strange outfit on....
19:32 dbshortwave ready to fall asleep
19:32 * wannabe1987 prescribes caffiene
19:33 * wannabe1987 has to get her sister
19:33 wannabe1987 bye!
19:33 wannabe1987 sndwrx: i'll be by in about an hour....fyi
19:33 dbshortwave have fun
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19:36 yNos Katemonster!!
19:36 Katemonster Craigmonster!
19:36 yNos so how are things out west?
19:36 Katemonster finished-y
19:36 yNos noice
19:36 Katemonster just got home from my engineering graphics final
19:36 yNos and?
19:36 Katemonster which was braindead-easy
19:37 yNos oh - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DeiSz_q9zSg <-latest bodenblog
19:37 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 12-6-11 Gas Leak and Drum Fun - YouTube
19:39 producerBillWork yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa new captain's blog
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19:40 mashpriborintorg thanks for the blog link
19:41 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 12-6-11 Gas Leak and Drum Fun http://youtu.be/DeiSz_q9zSg
19:41 mashpriborintorg You're late, BotSteve
19:43 killakee cant you upload mp4 format to youtube ennymore ?
19:44 yNos http://www.keepvid.com
19:44 BotSteve Title: KeepVid: Download and save any video from Youtube, Dailymotion, Metacafe, iFilm and more!
19:44 azop yNos: looks like Grandstream was nice enough to donate some cameras
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19:45 producerBillWork no live stream,,,, what?
19:46 yNos azop: Yup, we will be playing with them
19:47 producerBillWork lol
19:47 ajprog_laptop producerBillWork: I will check on that
19:47 yNos Thanks for helping get that line
19:48 azop glad they donated some stuff
19:48 azop good luck getting *any* other IP company to do that.
19:48 yNos exactly!
19:49 yNos most companies are not interested..
19:49 yNos we will start working on the videos soon.
19:49 azop we should support motion detection on IP cameras (including Grandstream) in the next release, which should be late this week
19:50 yNos Cool, we will re-install again.
19:50 azop just a upgrade is all you need
19:50 azop apt-get upgrade ftw
19:50 yNos yu[yup :D
19:56 egrsteve|away morning all
19:57 yNos getting to be time to roll out
19:57 yNos its been a day
19:59 egrsteve|away anything new in here?
19:59 MoxieMike___ new blog
19:59 yNos oh, anyone looking for semi-subversive groove music should look up a band called Mifune
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20:03 killakee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XptQVMNB74c
20:03 BotSteve Title: teslacoil tuned.MP4 - YouTube
20:04 killakee my coil is in tune :)
20:04 SparkyProjects Nice :)
20:04 killakee thanks
20:05 killakee it was one heck of a job
20:06 yNos :D
20:06 yNos concrats
20:06 SparkyProjects A good exercise is to go back through all the calcs on teslamap so you can relate everything to your coil, you should understand it a bit more
20:06 Electricguy killakee, nice! :P
20:06 yNos later all
20:07 killakee thanks gys
20:07 SparkyProjects Your topload isn't a toroid, and not quite a sphere,
20:07 * yNos waves
20:07 killakee bye ynos
20:07 killakee it is a toroid under and a smaler half toroide on top of that ..
20:08 SparkyProjects ah, i see
20:08 killakee my coil seemed to like that .. i dont know why
20:08 killakee :)
20:08 SparkyProjects More surface area means more capacitance
20:09 killakee ah i see
20:09 SparkyProjects the top load is one plate of a capacitor.
20:10 killakee i know , you teached me that ;)
20:11 killakee winter is finaly here :/
20:11 killakee -10 c out ..
20:13 SparkyProjects According to my outdor therm, it's 4.5C here :P
20:13 Electricguy +3c in my christmas light control box. so around 1c outside here
20:13 killakee lucky :P
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20:59 reesk does anyone here doe pro or freelance web design who wouldnt mind giving me some tips
21:00 tlockley what do you want to do today?
21:01 reesk ive been meaning to do this for a few days just yesterday i was fucking about with my php
21:02 tlockley ah
21:02 reesk ive been asked to design the website for a local charity as some of you already know and i need tips on the best way to do this
21:02 tlockley for what, graphic design or site design
21:02 reesk if it were up to me id just make the thing and show it them but i wanna put the effort into desighning it
21:02 reesk site design
21:03 tlockley what kind of features do they want?
21:03 reesk they just want a site to promote the church hold information about upcoming events list phone numbers ect
21:03 reesk i could do with sitting down and having a brief with them
21:04 tlockley so more simple flat files than dynamic content
21:04 reesk yeah for now thats gonna be the basis of what theyl need
21:04 reesk ill be incharge of upkeep so no worrys about maintaining the html
21:05 tlockley ok
21:05 tlockley well the best thing to do then is try and make nice readable and simple html
21:05 tlockley and possibly do alot of work with CSS
21:06 reesk im thinking should i do one design or should i do lots of desighns with different elements like button styles color schemes and such and present them  with the designs and let them pick for them selves
21:06 reesk and give them alot of controll over it
21:06 tlockley I think you should do a little of both
21:06 tlockley try and give them the one that you want and one other option
21:07 tlockley then they will be more apt to combine the two if they are both well liked
21:07 reesk i know when i learnt this in secondary school i was tought to make 4 desings have them pick 2 redraft those desighns into detailed desighns then have them make the final adjustments to the design they want do the final draft and then code
21:08 reesk so 4 simple drafts on one page
21:08 reesk 2 roughs on singles
21:08 tlockley sure
21:08 reesk 1 final in best style
21:09 tlockley yah
21:10 reesk then im planning to create a page of color schemes that suit and any suporting artwork they might want and tbh just go the same route as a taylor or hosue desighner show them what they can have let them pick what they want and ill code it
21:10 reesk obviousley not what they want exactly cause not everyone has good taste but compromise
21:11 tlockley yah, that is a good plan
21:11 reesk im sorry but orange and neon purple dont work how about orange and yellow o maybe a nice red
21:11 * lwq1996 shakes wannabe awake
21:13 reesk is there anything else i should be doing for them even though this is my first official project i wanna put my best  across so that they can atleast get a professional service
21:13 reesk hell id wear a suit if it want for the fact they know em personally
21:13 tlockley no just be professional and on time
21:14 reesk ok im gonna try and get a breif done with them but what should i do if they jut say oh idk just do what you think is best
21:14 reesk as great as it sounds id rather nto be guessing there taste
21:15 reesk or your incharge of that do what you want is the one i hate from them
21:16 reesk should i do as told or play dumb from the start and say something like i need to know what you want so i now what to desighn it like
21:23 tlockley If they say do what you think is best, do it. They are stating that they trust your personal taste and as such deliver what you think is your best design for them.
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21:24 Cprossu well yNos at least we didn't shoot a cannon ball through a house. http://www.wwmt.com/articles/h​ome-1399209-county-stunt.html
21:24 BotSteve Title: Mythbusters crew shoots cannonball through family's home | home, county, stunt - WWMT NEWSCHANNEL 3
21:25 tlockley Saw that this morning. Funny and amazing.
21:26 Cprossu shit happens.
21:27 ajprog_laptop hopefully that isn't how we make the news the next time
21:28 tlockley true
21:32 Monkeh Cprossu: Shit happens when you're firing a cannon in the direction of a town 700 yards away..
21:32 Monkeh Bloody stupid.
21:32 Cprossu no it would have been bloody stupid if they had killed anyone.
21:33 Cprossu instead we can all laugh at it =P
21:33 Monkeh Cprossu: I'm not laughing.
21:33 Cprossu you wouldn't =P
21:33 Monkeh No, I wouldn't, I shoot guns.
21:34 Monkeh Somebody cocked up royally, because that shouldn't have even had the potential to occur
21:37 egrsteve failure is always an option.
21:37 tlockley well i think it probably happened under the watch of the other 3 mythbusters
21:38 tlockley jaime doesent strike me as the kind of guy to mess something like that up
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21:38 egrsteve nor the police sgnt
21:39 Cprossu hey egrsteve
21:39 egrsteve as hwe seems to pay them visits on site
21:39 egrsteve hey cprossu
21:39 Cprossu glad you got the desk.
21:39 egrsteve ?
21:40 egrsteve what desk?
21:40 Cprossu did you see the captains blog of shit that got offloaded from the truck?
21:40 reesk you know what i havtn hear in a long time
21:41 reesk a really good trance song that sends a shiver down your spine
21:41 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos: Stomper Build and Early Testing http://youtu.be/pYxPEFxYBiM
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21:41 egrsteve y, I saw the pile, what about it
21:42 Toastdude Hi
21:42 Cprossu there was a desk with a rack built in iirc
21:43 tlockley that is new audio station i think
21:43 tlockley according to the vid
21:43 NeWtoz there are two desks
21:43 tlockley i think chris just wanted to go OCD on the messy desk
21:43 NeWtoz one for audio, one for steve
21:46 Toastdude ...
21:46 NeWtoz you didn't see that
21:50 Toastdude Yes I did.
21:54 Toastdude .seen wannabe1989
21:54 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen wannabe1989 around.
21:54 Toastdude .seen wannabe1987'
21:54 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen wannabe1987' around.
21:54 Toastdude .seen wannabe1987
21:54 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe1987 2.36 hours ago at 2011-12-07 19:33:13 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:54:41 UTC
21:54 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
21:54 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
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22:03 wannabe1987 i'm back
22:04 NeWtoz Thanks for the warning
22:04 * lwq1996 jumps on wannabe
22:04 NeWtoz j/k
22:04 wannabe1987 you're welcome
22:04 wannabe1987 hi lwq1996
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22:04 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
22:06 Toastdude WANNABE!
22:06 Toastdude [15:55]         <Toastdude> .seen wannabe1987
22:06 Toastdude :P
22:07 wannabe1987 lol hi
22:07 injektion This is me after 12 hours of chemical factory hell http://goput.it/p05.jpg
22:08 wannabe1987 you need to eat more
22:08 Toastdude ...
22:08 Toastdude Yes, you do
22:08 injektion This is what happened after I ran into my SGI Octane by accident http://goput.it/3na.jpg
22:08 wannabe1987 someone want my hicups?
22:09 Cprossu well at least you didn't hurt the octane injektion
22:09 * Toastdude takes wannabe's hiccups
22:10 wannabe1987 it didn't work
22:10 injektion Cprossu, lol
22:10 * masterofmonks gives wannabe1987 hiccups.
22:11 injektion I'm supposed to get a working Octane dual CPU system whenever the paypal echeck clears
22:11 Toastdude http://i43.tinypic.com/15xquqf.png  What do you think for a first photoshop?
22:11 Ponko hmm what fun
22:14 injektion Cprossu, Is it worth getting a modern buckling spring keyboard made by Unicomp?
22:17 wannabe1987 Toastdude, what did you chop?
22:17 wannabe1987 i'm confused :P
22:18 wannabe1987 tomorrows todo list includes shopping around for better prices for car parts.  w00t
22:18 wannabe1987 and junkyards need to not be sexist
22:19 injektion When in the hell is my 13W3 to HD-15 adapter going to arrive
22:23 Electricguy bedtime! night all
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22:39 Toastdude Since I'm an online member, I am allowed at the lab, right?
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22:45 Toastdude .......NeWtoz?
22:52 Cprossu BotSteve: tell injection looks good to me
22:52 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when injection is around.
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22:54 Cprossu good luck with that wannabe1989.... you might be able to get better prices though depending on what 'kind' of sexist they are though
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23:02 Seroster Mrgh.
23:09 Cprossu so bored
23:10 sndwrx Have you got Portal 2?  :P
23:10 Cprossu yeah but I am playing gmod
23:10 * sndwrx nods.
23:10 sndwrx I played Portal 2 co-op for the first time yesterday.
23:14 * dbshortwave makes like the Heavy "OM NOM NOM NOM NOM"
23:22 Cprossu sweet.
23:27 tonsofpcs sour
23:31 Seroster Didnt get to see The Pipe in the blog eh?
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23:39 Monkeh Cprossu: Unbore yourself, help me make my Android do what I want it to.
23:46 Seroster I live under 5kilos of R600a. And the compressor just fired up
23:49 MoxieMike___ seroster, why do you live in an industrial walk-in freezer?
23:49 Seroster No, but 8 storey house, I live in the highest level and the heat exchanger is over me
23:49 MoxieMike___ cool
23:50 wannabe1987 its snowing?
23:51 MoxieMike___ not here
23:53 wannabe1987 its here.  a bit
23:56 Seroster It's raining here
23:57 Seroster Supercooled rain falling on the sub zero pavement
23:57 Seroster Gonna be fun getting to school tomorrow =)
23:58 MoxieMike___ i bet
23:59 tonsofpcs Seroster: hope snow comes over the top,, then ski?

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