Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-16

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00:12 tonsofpcs wait, there's a legal way???
00:13 DruidicRifleman yNos If you see random massive Trasnformers like biggerthen the ones in MDh and go ohh that would be cool to power a tesla coil should someone limit there dailu exposure to TGG related content...
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00:14 tonsofpcs DruidicRifleman: what if I see a transmitter the size of the shorter wall of MDH and think 'someone really should get this out of here and do something cool with it, like build an amp for something like thumper'?
00:15 DruidicRifleman ...
00:16 tonsofpcs (I totally thought that yesterday when we were looking at running coax)
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00:47 DruidicRifleman what if you see an abandoned building that with 300 Square meters of space and go... that place should be a hacker space
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00:51 tgg|yNos hey everyone
00:51 tgg|yNos you are on the big screen
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00:58 DruidicRifleman what bigscreen
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01:03 tonsofpcs tgg|yNos: I'm on the big screen?
01:04 tonsofpcs DruidicRifleman: what if I think that about the storage area of the building I work in?
01:04 DruidicRifleman wow chris is an ass
01:05 lwq1996 anyone know if there is a geek group logo for Pa yet?
01:05 DruidicRifleman "hey You creepy guys in egypt who wanna do freeky things to moose for 50 bucks i can setthat up"
01:05 DruidicRifleman yeah
01:06 tonsofpcs he was in the UK and he didn't offer any money... or is this something different?
01:06 sndwrx Is that the going rate, fifty bucks?
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01:07 sndwrx hey wannabe1987.
01:07 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
01:07 wannabe1987 how are you doing?
01:07 lwq1996 wannabe had work today i see
01:07 sndwrx i'm okay.  still wrestling with typical Windows issues.
01:07 wannabe1987 yes she did....one hours worth :P
01:08 wannabe1987 of course....you'll never be done with that, dear
01:08 tonsofpcs how long did one hour's worth of work take you?
01:08 tonsofpcs (it usually takes me about 16 hourss :-p)
01:09 tonsofpcs yNos: are you saying you have irc up on the projector?
01:09 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: i do in home health care, so it actually TAKES one hour :P
01:09 SparkyProjects lwq1996: yes there's a PA logo http://thegeekgroup.org/about-2/logos-graphics/local-logos  <- (page takes a while to load)
01:09 BotSteve Title: Local Logos | The Geek Group
01:09 DruidicRifleman HI GRAND RAPIDS!!!!
01:10 wannabe1987 hi DruidicRifleman :D
01:10 lwq1996 thanks sparkyprojects
01:10 wannabe1987 my sisters are home :D
01:10 SparkyProjects Looks like there's every state and just about every country on that page
01:11 tonsofpcs hmm, there's two NYs *clicks*
01:12 wannabe1987 and charlie brown is on tv
01:12 wannabe1987 but i'm doing more sugar cookies
01:13 ajprog_laptop tonsofpcs: we have some plasma here
01:13 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs: As in the song, so good they named it twice :D
01:13 Seroster That was a very nice little game.
01:13 Seroster Up to shcool in 4 hours
01:14 Seroster Not so nice game.
01:14 Seroster Wellwell
01:14 Seroster Night folks
01:14 Hackbat >_>
01:14 Hackbat http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4824819/lol.html
01:15 SparkyProjects Night Seoster
01:16 Seroster Tyvm for the help with the motor sparky =) It is still slightly warmer than ambient
01:16 SparkyProjects No Probs
01:16 Seroster Now it works... Next: Figure out what to use it for.
01:16 Seroster But that might be a discussion more suited for the nsfw room, another day. Cya =)
01:19 exor674 .... GREEN headlights
01:19 exor674 can that be legal?
01:19 wannabe1987 ??
01:19 wannabe1987 yes
01:20 wannabe1987 pretty much as long as its not red or blue you're good, depending on state/country laws
01:20 tonsofpcs in NJ they have to be white.  NY there's some limitations
01:21 tonsofpcs I think PA requires white too, idk
01:21 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: well, one isnt loading.....
01:22 lwq1996 they can be those new blue/white ones though
01:22 SparkyProjects I would imagine it's an error, the url's seem to be the same
01:22 tonsofpcs in fact, i see two of every one available, the newer not loading at all
01:22 tonsofpcs lwq1996: yea, NJ had those banned too, idk if it's been relaxed though
01:23 tonsofpcs it's wordpress, the URL is when it was uploaded, the newer ones are from november, the older ones from april
01:23 wannabe1987 i hate teh bright white lights....they give me a headache
01:24 Cprossu just cleared my stomach from watching the sopa hearings
01:24 Cprossu what's everyone up to tonight?
01:24 tonsofpcs 5'7+-1"
01:24 Cprossu not bad.
01:25 wannabe1987 same
01:25 tonsofpcs could be better -- I could have used the unicode PLUSORMINUS or whatever it's called
01:25 tonsofpcs </geek<geek>
01:25 tonsofpcs [SHORTTAGS=YES]
01:26 Cprossu yeah but no point, plus it would come out as garbage to my client in all likelyhood (damn easy to read font that isn't unicode)
01:26 sndwrx wannabe1987: In the state of Michigan, white/light yellow and amber/orange are the only acceptable front illumination.
01:26 wannabe1987 i've seen green here in MI :P
01:26 sndwrx Rear lighting may be red and amber/orange for tail lights and indicators, white for license plate light.
01:26 sndwrx Right.  That doesn't mean it's legal, however.
01:26 wannabe1987 i know
01:27 sndwrx "exor674 | can that be legal?"
01:27 sndwrx "wannabe198+| yes"
01:27 sndwrx No, not in Michigan.  :P
01:27 sndwrx Nor are front windows tinted further than 4" from the top, but that doesn't stop people.
01:28 Cprossu at one point on the SOPA hearings they considered a ammendment that would make it a crime to use alternative DNS servers as a US citizen. I can't believe how retarded things are getting
01:28 Cprossu at leas that's what they erroniously communicated
01:28 tonsofpcs NJ doesn't allow window tint on fronts or front sides, NY allows a certain % tint on front, almost anything (but still % limited) on sides
01:28 wannabe1987 neither are limo tints, unless you have a prescription....
01:28 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what??????
01:28 sndwrx Limo is legal on the rear windows.
01:29 sndwrx In fact, you can completely black-out your rear windows, as long as you have two working side mirrors.
01:29 Cprossu tonsofpcs: at least that's how the non-IT literate people proposing the bill put it
01:29 exor674 I am wondering if I actually SAW green headlights or just fucked up HID ( haven't warmed up yet? )
01:29 Cprossu because SOPA relies on essentially DNS poisioning, therefore use another dns and you're clear, but ON NO THEY'LL STEAL OUR IP!
01:29 sndwrx There are rainbow and various tinted color headlamp bulbs.
01:30 exor674 or just my eyes doing silly white-balancing
01:30 Cprossu tonsofpcs bullshit eh?
01:33 sndwrx home time.
01:34 tonsofpcs wait, wtf is all this?
01:34 tonsofpcs Cprossu: link to the [house or senate] text?
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01:37 tonsofpcs HR3261... *digs*
01:38 tonsofpcs "Depending on who requests the court orders, the actions could include barring online advertising networks and payment facilitators such as PayPal from doing business with the infringing website, barring search engines from linking to such sites, and requiring Internet service providers to block access to such sites. The bill would make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted content a felony." (from wikipedia) << TOTALLY a first
01:41 tonsofpcs lol, they even insert a clause "Nothing in this Act shall be construed to impose a prior restraint on free speech or the press protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution"
01:42 tonsofpcs I like clause 5 in section 2 though.
01:43 tonsofpcs *looks to move his domain registry overseas*
01:46 tonsofpcs wait, I'm a sevice provider?!!?
01:47 tonsofpcs *looks into disables DNS caching on his routerwall*
01:47 tonsofpcs s/disables/disabling/
01:48 tonsofpcs (but where I work isn't a service provider because it's solely for business)
01:50 wannabe1987 my gingerbread shaped sugar cookies peoples' heads are between the one above thems legs
01:51 ajprog_laptop wannabe1987: we can see what is on your mind
01:52 wannabe1987 lol
01:52 wannabe1987 its how they all fit best
01:52 ajprog_laptop yeah, that is what they all say
01:53 wannabe1987 lol
01:53 wannabe1987 next they'll go on top of each other, stacked....69 style :P
01:53 ajprog_laptop :P
01:54 ajprog_laptop on a different subject, did you ever get around to dropping off the things you were going to donate?
01:54 tonsofpcs wait, they're saying that a [blocked] site will need to have a dns cache server not resolve it... do they realize that this is a violation of DNS and is impracitcal?
01:55 tonsofpcs honestly, it looks like that if I were an ISP, I'd just either (1) make my DNS servers not cache or (2) point all DHCP leases at root DNS servers
01:55 wannabe1987 ajprog_laptop: yes, i did yesterday.
01:55 ajprog_laptop ok
01:56 wannabe1987 dave helped me bring the stuff in
01:56 ajprog_laptop was a paper shredder one of the things
01:56 wannabe1987 BotSteve: ask killakee if he wants me to send some butter overseas
01:56 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when killakee is around.
01:56 wannabe1987 yes it was
01:57 ajprog_laptop ok
01:57 wannabe1987 does it work?
01:57 tonsofpcs Anyway, RFC 1035 section 7.4 "Cached data should never be used in preference to authoritative data, so if caching would cause this to happen the data should not be cached."
01:57 ajprog_laptop I don't think we have checked it yet, we have had a lot of donations recently
01:58 wannabe1987 ah  ok
02:00 tonsofpcs Cprossu: is this on CSPAN2 or something now?
02:03 dbshortwave i should think about removing some face
02:03 dbshortwave well my face
02:04 dbshortwave an it itches
02:04 dbshortwave you know shave my chins
02:13 * tonsofpcs just twitter ranted
02:13 tonsofpcs I blame Cprossu
02:13 wannabe1987 "A California teenager got stuck in a chimney while reportedly trying to sneak back into his home after curfew."
02:21 tonsofpcs hey, if santa fits...
02:21 lwq1996 LOL
02:24 wannabe1987 lol
02:30 tonsofpcs it also doesn't allow relief for 100% foreign sites because there is no qualifying plaintiff (they don't have standing)
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02:35 wannabe1987 hi jess
02:35 KawaiiJess Hai!
02:35 * KawaiiJess waves
02:35 * wannabe1987 waves back
02:35 wannabe1987 how are you?
02:44 sndwrx Some flurries blowin' around out there.
02:45 DruidicRifleman whats up
02:45 dbshortwave thats what they say is headded this way
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02:51 wannabe1987 what sndwrx?!
02:51 wannabe1987 shhhhh stop swearing :P
02:52 lwq1996 i gave my sis my old glasses
02:52 lwq1996 she is not the owner of them :/
02:52 wannabe1987 ??
02:52 lwq1996 i gave her my old glasses
02:52 wannabe1987 i understood that
02:52 lwq1996 she was like " I CAN SEE" and said "i take them now"
02:53 wannabe1987 you gave them to her....
02:53 lwq1996 no, i found them she took them, she claimed them and didnt say thankyou
02:53 wannabe1987 you said you gave them to her.
02:54 * lwq1996 goes away
02:54 wannabe1987 what?
02:54 wannabe1987 i'm just saying
02:55 wannabe1987 you take stuff too damn hard.
02:55 lwq1996 and you bitch to damn hard
02:55 wannabe1987 i was trying to understand....
02:55 wannabe1987 i could just ignore it
02:56 masterofmonks wannabe1987: you still have the job?
02:56 wannabe1987 what job, in home health care or making cookies?
02:56 masterofmonks The one in the topic?
02:56 wannabe1987 yes
02:56 ajprog_laptop I am still waiting for some cookies
02:56 wannabe1987 i don't loose jobs THAT quickly (wel, i did once....but yeah)
02:57 wannabe1987 um ajprog_laptop.....i brought some to the lab like...a month ago!
02:57 wannabe1987 two months?  eh
02:57 wannabe1987 i'll bring some somewhere again
02:57 ajprog_laptop yeah your rejects ;)
02:58 wannabe1987 yeah
02:58 wannabe1987 or you could buy some off me for $6/doz
02:59 wannabe1987 i (sadly) need to start making more so i have a "stock" for when people want a dozen
02:59 ajprog_laptop I work at thegeekgroup, I don't have any money
02:59 wannabe1987 lol not even $6?!
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03:00 wannabe1987 so you want "rejects" sometime?
03:00 ajprog_laptop :P
03:00 wannabe1987 i can bring in "rejected" cut out sugar cookies that are not decorated :P
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03:01 hopstafarian good day/night/morning to y'all
03:02 wannabe1987 WHY IS THE DOG SINGING
03:02 wannabe1987 hi hopstafarian
03:02 hopstafarian sndwrx, hey man...appreciate the convo last night
03:02 hopstafarian wannabe1987, hey....what's new and exciting?
03:02 wannabe1987 sugar cookies
03:02 wannabe1987 and singing dogs (on tv)
03:03 sndwrx wb hopstafarian.
03:03 masterofmonks Our malamut sits on the front portch, and you hear her clear her throat and then grumble a bit, and work up to a long drawn out howl.
03:03 sndwrx Get to work on the POS any today?
03:04 masterofmonks Rag for a gas cap?
03:04 hopstafarian sndwrx, thanks,,,up for acting like my personal sndbrd again?
03:04 * lwq1996 coughs at masterofmonks to look at his pm
03:04 wannabe1987 awwww puppy!
03:04 hopstafarian sndwrx, every day...the nature of working for a grocer
03:05 masterofmonks Barely, she's like 65lbs
03:05 hopstafarian masterofmonks, log that song
03:05 sndwrx masterofmonks: ha, I've had a car I felt that way about.  However I was referring to Point-of-Sale.  :P
03:05 * wannabe1987 calls all dogs puppies
03:05 hopstafarian masterofmonks, *love
03:05 sndwrx hopstafarian: What'cha got?
03:05 masterofmonks sndwrx: same thing.
03:05 wannabe1987 lol
03:05 sndwrx Oh, song.  You talking about Adam Sandler?
03:06 sndwrx I didn't get the reference at first.
03:06 hopstafarian sndwrx, well, you heard about the lucky's w.coast card skimming fiasco?
03:06 masterofmonks Well mainly Piece of Shit...
03:06 tonsofpcs sndwrx: it's a point of sale car?
03:06 lwq1996 wannabe my puppys 6years old :P
03:06 tonsofpcs also, log is an entirely different song
03:06 sndwrx hopstafarian: no
03:07 * lwq1996 coughs at masterofmonks to look at his pm again
03:07 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, exactly..."maam, would you like help w/ that...please buckle up"
03:07 tonsofpcs huh?  What rolls down stairs, alone or in pairs?  Rolls over your neighbor's dog?  What fits on your back, is good for a snack?  It's log, log, log....
03:08 sndwrx YA IT'S REALLY FUN!
03:08 hopstafarian sndwrx, well, this what sounds like a pretty well organized band of thieves, hit multiple locations with bluetooth enabled devices attached to self checkout units ...
03:09 tonsofpcs it's log, log, it's big, it's heavy, it's wood....
03:09 sndwrx it's log, it's log, it
03:09 sndwrx yeah that line.
03:09 sndwrx haha
03:09 tonsofpcs heh
03:09 sndwrx it's better than bad, it's good!
03:09 tonsofpcs it's log, log, better than bad -- it's good!
03:09 tonsofpcs everyone wants a log
03:09 tonsofpcs you're gonna love it log
03:09 tonsofpcs everyone needs a log [log log log log] -- BY BLAMMO!
03:10 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, reminds me of some ppl that i work with that i refer to as slinkys..."really, good for nothing; but still makes you giggle to see them fall down a flight of stairs.."
03:10 tonsofpcs (great song for math class, btw)
03:10 tonsofpcs hopstafarian: have you never watched ren and stimpey?
03:10 sndwrx hopstafarian: Interesting
03:10 tonsofpcs s/ey/y/
03:10 sndwrx hopstafarian: I'll have to look it up.
03:11 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, yep, as a matter of fact i own a log...
03:12 wannabe1987 WHAT?!
03:13 wannabe1987 lwq1996? my puppy is 9
03:13 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, i love it, and squeeze it, and pet it, and call it "george"
03:13 hopstafarian tonsofpcs, (plus, it let's me tend the rabbits)
03:13 tonsofpcs wrong show :-p
03:14 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: There are so many ways you can misinterpret that.
03:14 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Few of them good.
03:14 wannabe1987 george
03:14 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: misinterpret which?
03:14 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Line before last.
03:14 tonsofpcs .g "call him george"
03:14 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JlVqfC8-UI
03:14 hopstafarian Monkeh, knock yourself out.....my pops taught me too things...never forget to laugh, and eff em if they can't take a joke..
03:15 * wannabe1987 has headache. who wants it?
03:15 tonsofpcs I'm hoping that's the right video ;)
03:16 hopstafarian Monkeh, was thinking of the abdominal snowman of bugs bunny fame meets of mice and men...
03:16 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: I know. :)
03:17 hopstafarian Monkeh, i'm sorry, i missed that, was busy petting the "log"...
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03:18 Monkeh|Lap Ahh, I have a dirty mind. Anyway..
03:18 tonsofpcs win 39
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03:19 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: fail 39.
03:19 hopstafarian Monkeh, picked up on that :)
03:19 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Kinda hard not to
03:19 wannabe1987 .c 96-74
03:19 BotSteve 22
03:20 * wannabe1987 needs 22 more cookies
03:20 wannabe1987 ajprog_laptop: you be at lab tomorrow around 4-4:30?
03:20 hopstafarian wannabe1987, what was that?...explain?
03:20 wannabe1987 i need 8 doz cookies (96 of them) i made 74 non-rejected ones today.....so i need 22 more
03:21 wannabe1987 why, do i need to explain my math too?!
03:21 hopstafarian wannabe1987, not the math, the ".c" part
03:21 * hopstafarian new to irc
03:21 wannabe1987 thats our bot
03:21 wannabe1987 not irc
03:21 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Tells the bot to do it.
03:21 wannabe1987 he does math if you do .c
03:22 wannabe1987 or google for .g, wiki for .wiki, wolfram alpha for .wa
03:22 hopstafarian the 'c' is for calculate?
03:22 wannabe1987 and whole host of other things
03:22 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Because wannabe1987 can't do basic mental math. ;)
03:22 wannabe1987 yes....
03:22 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Yes.
03:22 wannabe1987 right Monkeh|Lap
03:22 hopstafarian aha...getting it..
03:22 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: :)
03:23 wannabe1987 Monkeh|Lap: i've never been good at math with out my "pacifier" aka calculator
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03:23 wannabe1987 now i carry a phone or a computer and i'm good!
03:23 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Yeah, I'm not great I admit.
03:23 hopstafarian when people ask me my sign, hopstafarian says "slow children at play"
03:23 Monkeh|Lap Not quite that bad, though. :P
03:24 wannabe1987 i can't do subtraction or division in head/on paper
03:24 wannabe1987 multiplication i'm ok at and i can add!
03:24 hopstafarian wannabe1987, not having to do math is the entire reason i got into computers
03:24 wannabe1987 lol
03:25 wannabe1987 that doesn't make sense
03:25 hopstafarian wannabe1987, i know, it did turn out to be a catch22...but hey what can i say, we were young, and in love?
03:26 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Depends what area. ;)
03:26 wannabe1987 so if ound more cookies, but i still need like 18 of them
03:26 Monkeh|Lap You need at least some basic mental math abilities to do networking, that's for sure.
03:26 wannabe1987 its ok, i'm going into the medical feild ... i need science and math
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03:26 tonsofpcs SMATHIENCE
03:27 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Bless you.
03:27 tonsofpcs gesundheidt
03:27 wannabe1987 lol
03:27 Monkeh|Lap If you're a yank, yes.
03:27 hopstafarian wannabe1987, but spelling is secondary in that parictular feild?
03:28 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Have you seen some of the names flying around?
03:28 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Spelling is not their strong suit.
03:28 Monkeh|Lap Nor is inventing names you can pronounce!
03:28 tonsofpcs ay dios mio
03:29 * hopstafarian is definitely a yank (see above, re: "log named george" (that one's for you monkeh))
03:29 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Got that much.
03:29 Monkeh|Lap I can tell. :P
03:30 wannabe1987 hopstafarian: yes, because its all shorthand.
03:30 wannabe1987 and i'm tired
03:30 wannabe1987 and i have a headache
03:30 tonsofpcs but i'm le tired
03:30 wannabe1987 and its like...10:30 and i've been making cookies all day
03:30 hopstafarian wannabe1987, just teasing...sorry
03:30 wannabe1987 and i have a headache
03:30 wannabe1987 don't worry
03:30 wannabe1987 i'm ok
03:30 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Well take a nap
03:30 wannabe1987 i don't take things too hard *cough*lee*cough*
03:31 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: THEN FIRE ZE MISSILES!
03:31 hopstafarian wannabe1987, what kinda cookies?
03:31 wannabe1987 sugar cookies....the kind cut into shapes
03:31 wannabe1987 i'd rather do choc chip or something easy
03:31 hopstafarian wannabe1987, sugar would have sufficed, i got the shapes thing from the time of year...
03:32 wannabe1987 sorry for being thorough
03:32 * hopstafarian is inadvertently kind of a dick at times..
03:33 hopstafarian wannabe1987, sorry
03:33 Monkeh|Lap In other news
03:33 Monkeh|Lap A lot of people want to know what scampi is.
03:33 wannabe1987 yu're male, right?  you HAVE a dick....thats prolly why
03:33 wannabe1987 and i'm going to go home....bbl
03:34 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Don't go there.
03:34 ajprog_laptop nice genaralization
03:34 hopstafarian wannabe1987, sorry for your pain...i just turned old enough that now sleeping is akin to a sport now...so really, sorry
03:36 hopstafarian Monkeh, in a culinary sense, basically a saute with a lil bit of alcohol added...though thats a GROSS generalisation...
03:36 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Yep, you're definitely a yank.
03:37 hopstafarian wannabe1987, yep, and you're totally right..you just read the thing about the compassionate rats, no?
03:38 hopstafarian Monkeh, was it my ip or my language usage the gave it away?
03:38 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: The fact that you call a method of preparing Shrimp 'Scampi'.
03:39 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Scampi is actually the tail of a particular species of Lobster.
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03:40 hopstafarian Monkeh, did i?...never mentioned shrimp, but referred to scampi as a method, and not a particular recipe..just like pilaf is a method of preparation?
03:40 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Normally when you refer to scampi it's a method for preparing shrimp.
03:40 BatSteve howdy
03:41 * hopstafarian trying to reckon if the differences are cultural, or culinary
03:41 hopstafarian Monkeh, exactly...key word method...so what if i said vegetable scampi..what would come to mind?
03:41 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: I'll go with 'americanisation' seeing as you don't get langoustines over there but still wanted to use our words. :P
03:41 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Uh, a contradiction in terms?
03:42 Monkeh|Lap As I said, scampi is the tail of a species of lobster.
03:42 Monkeh|Lap The Norway lobster, or langoustine
03:43 Monkeh|Lap They're rather tasty. Quite different to prawns, although I generally like all shellfish.
03:43 hopstafarian Monkeh|Lap, not trying to argue..just trying to figure out if my cultural adolescence or my culinary ignorance was the bigger obstacle...
03:44 Monkeh|Lap You're american, so definitely culinary ignorance. ;P
03:44 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: 'lo
03:44 hopstafarian Monkeh, lol...ok, humbly accepted...though coming from a brit....
03:44 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: You'd not exist without us, shush. :)
03:45 BatSteve howdy Monkeh|Lap
03:45 BatSteve .seen seroster
03:45 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw Seroster 2.47 hours ago at 2011-12-16 01:16:48 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:45:07 UTC
03:45 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw Seroster^Away 12.18 hours ago at 2011-12-15 15:34:33 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:45 masterofmonks .seen BatSteve
03:45 hopstafarian Monkeh, agreed, and vice versa....what swayed wc decision to fight germany/
03:45 BotSteve masterofmonks: I last saw BatSteve 0.08 hours ago at 2011-12-16 03:40:52 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:45:23 UTC
03:45 hopstafarian ?
03:45 BotSteve masterofmonks: I last saw Farts-Mobile 117.80 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:57:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:45 BotSteve masterofmonks: I last saw BatSteve-Away 118.09 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:40:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:45 BotSteve masterofmonks: I last saw Bat-Mobile 118.13 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:37:44 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:45 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Last I heard he was trying to main himself with a small motor.
03:45 Monkeh|Lap Er, maim
03:45 hopstafarian Monkeh, :)
03:45 Monkeh|Lap 3AM typing again.
03:46 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Who's to say the war would even have occured if we hadn't spawned you? ;)
03:46 BatSteve BotSteve: tell seroster that I have a friend who plays soldat
03:46 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when Seroster is around.
03:47 hopstafarian Monkeh, err...im' confuzzled...which war are we talking about?...cause hitler's original designs had nothing to do with the amerigos, at least at first...
03:47 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Events aren't fixed.
03:48 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: If your little rebellion hadn't spawned, who's to say we wouldn't have had sufficient military power to have taken over Europe before Hitler even arrived?
03:48 hopstafarian Monkeh, cool, then we can change them? excuse me while i take that time that i molested that catholic priest while on a full head of acid...aaaah, there we go, much better...
03:50 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Hold up.
03:50 hopstafarian Monkeh, cool, then we can change them? excuse me while i take that time that i molested that catholic priest while on a full head of acid...aaaah, there we go, much better...
03:50 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Surely you mean he molested you? ;)
03:50 hopstafarian Monkeh, yeah...that's totally what i meant...ahem
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03:51 Monkeh|Lap Well, that ventured off into the disturbing.
03:52 Monkeh|Lap From scampi to Hitler to catholic priests being molested. God, I love the internet..
03:52 wannabe1987 guess who left her power cord at her parents house?
03:52 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Women..
03:52 BatSteve .yt welcome to the internet
03:52 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvl5qFuWfxs
03:52 hopstafarian Monkeh, or the sarcasticlly ironic?...richard dawson, you be the judge...survey says?
03:52 wannabe1987 i'm going back tomorrow
03:53 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: That looks disturbing, so I'll redirect that to..
03:53 Monkeh|Lap .yt the internet is for porn
03:53 BotSteve Monkeh|Lap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEjvCRPrCo
03:54 hopstafarian Monkeh, i agree, and i hope that it's all in the vein of good fun....i certainly don't mean to offend...i get paid to do that...this is my off time..
03:54 Monkeh|Lap hopstafarian: Offend? Me?
03:54 Monkeh|Lap You've got to work hard to do that
03:54 BatSteve hopstafarian: what magical job is this that contains "offend people" as part of the job description?
03:54 BatSteve Customer service?
03:54 wannabe1987 lol
03:55 hopstafarian Monkeh, or anyone, and look forward to picking it up again...particulary the "if...hadn't spawned.." part
03:55 hopstafarian Monkeh, good deal...knew i was in the right place...
03:55 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Lawyer for the MPAA?
03:57 hopstafarian thank you for the free joy everyone...in a world where now that they have to pass a law to make it NOT ok for husband to throw a jar of acid into the face of their spouse for refusing to sell your children...y'all are a bright, reaffirming spot...ty
03:58 masterofmonks http://www.wimp.com/glassharp/
03:58 BotSteve Title: Tchaikovsky's "Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy" played on a glass harp. [VIDEO]
03:58 hopstafarian (btw, good job pakistan...)
03:58 * wannabe1987 is still looking to give away a headache if you want it
03:59 ajprog_laptop nope you can keep it to your self
03:59 wannabe1987 will you be at the lab around 4?
04:00 * hopstafarian can no longer resist his time sensitive work responsibilities, the allure of food, beer, and sleep; pretty much in that order....best wishes to all...
04:00 wannabe1987 lol
04:00 wannabe1987 bye
04:00 BatSteve noo...now we'll never know what your job is!
04:00 BatSteve at least I won't.
04:00 wannabe1987 ....
04:00 BatSteve maybe I missed it
04:00 hopstafarian BatSteve, jerry was a race car driver...
04:00 wannabe1987 works at a grocer/butcher shop if i remember correctly
04:02 wannabe1987 masterofmonks: thx 4 link....
04:02 hopstafarian wannabe1987, close...it dept for a grocer with full service periphery dept...whether it be butchery, catering, deli, hmr, health and beauty///we just roll w/ the punches up in this bizzy...
04:03 ajprog_laptop wannabe1987: probably
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04:04 wannabe1987 acutally, areound three :P
04:04 wannabe1987 i have training AT four :P
04:08 egrsteve|away hmm
04:09 egrsteve looks like I have more new used toys to take a look at at the lab
04:09 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Need longer days, eh? :)
04:09 egrsteve .seen *
04:09 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen * around.
04:09 ajprog_laptop yep when are you going to make it down to look at them
04:09 egrsteve saturday
04:10 egrsteve I hope
04:10 egrsteve tomarrow is TSO for mw
04:10 egrsteve *me
04:10 ajprog_laptop ok, I have stuff in the computer lab for you
04:10 egrsteve I have cameras clearcom and computer stuff, it's going to be like christmas
04:12 egrsteve and I killed chat, sorry
04:14 tonsofpcs TSO?
04:14 egrsteve Trans-Siberian Orchastra
04:15 tonsofpcs they playing out there?
04:15 egrsteve ya
04:15 tonsofpcs cool.  Saw them here a few months back.
04:16 egrsteve they make a stop in GR every year
04:16 egrsteve this will be my first time to see them
04:16 MoxieMike_ i'd love to see them
04:16 wannabe1987 lucky
04:17 egrsteve finaly have the money this year
04:18 wannabe1987 the person in the room above me needs to either soundproof the floor or get headphones.
04:18 egrsteve or you need ear plugs
04:18 wannabe1987 i sleep in headphones
04:18 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: The latter seeing as the former is involved.
04:19 ajprog_laptop they want to share the fun
04:19 wannabe1987 its an older lady....my landlords mom
04:19 wannabe1987 not hanks
04:19 wannabe1987 doesn't help with this headache....
04:19 egrsteve an old(er) lady with loud music
04:20 wannabe1987 its like oldies tho , loud , eh. idk
04:20 egrsteve but oldies can be good
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04:20 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
04:20 * wannabe1987 gives you my headache
04:20 egrsteve a lot better than much of the current "pop" music
04:20 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Give it to me, I have powerful drugs on tap
04:20 Toastdude Wannabe!
04:20 BotSteve toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
04:20 BotSteve At 15 Dec 18:43Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell toastdude he is toatsy
04:20 * wannabe1987 gives Monkeh|Lap said headache
04:21 wannabe1987 awwwwwwww
04:21 Toastdude BatSteve!
04:21 wannabe1987 it had said "captn_obvious" but then i switched nicks and....it didn't work :(
04:21 BatSteve Toastdude!
04:22 * Toastdude has made his first Lyden Jar...
04:22 Toastdude I can haz fun shocks! :P
04:23 Toastdude Brb
04:24 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSiLJ9_xLNU&amp;feature=related
04:24 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
04:24 BotSteve At 04:21Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell wannabe1987 yes he is.
04:24 BotSteve Title: Lego Twelve Pains of Christmas (2) - YouTube
04:25 wannabe1987 that was entertaining
04:27 * BatSteve put soup in the microwave, started it, and then got involved in a project
04:27 BatSteve now it's cold
04:27 BatSteve ):
04:28 wannabe1987 hahahahahah there was a fight (scuffle) on capitol hill in MI b/n several democrats tonight
04:30 wannabe1987 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/reps-engage-in-fisticuffs-on-house-floor
04:30 BotSteve Title: MI reps engage in scuffle in Capitol | WOOD TV8
04:40 astro73|alice "fisticuffs"? who says that anymore?
04:42 wannabe1987 http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvlhyiejoa1r4uzbto1_500.png
04:43 wannabe1987 you just did ...
04:44 wannabe1987 and im shutting down and going to sleep.  talk to you all tomorrow
04:47 tonsofpcs g'nite
04:48 BatSteve bye
04:50 lwq1996 can i download more than 1 game at a time on steam
04:51 astro73|alice i think it downloads several games at once
04:51 astro73|alice but don't quote me on it
04:51 lwq1996 ok
04:51 astro73|alice at the very least, it has a download manager so you can queue up stuff
04:51 lwq1996 because it woulnt let me download nuclear dawn and portal at the same time
04:52 astro73|alice that's odd
04:52 lwq1996 do i have to have some type of upgraded member shit
04:52 lwq1996 ship*
04:52 BatSteve That might be the fault of your connection or the way you have it set up.  I've had up to 4 games downloading at the same time without problems.
04:52 astro73|alice steam itself is always free, i think
04:52 BatSteve I agree
04:52 lwq1996 nvm i can download
04:52 lwq1996 it just woulnt let me start two at the same time
04:57 astro73|alice and tonight's entertainment shall be provided by Mel Brooks, telling the gripping tale of a classic english hero.
04:58 astro73|alice netflix is a dangerous thing
04:58 BatSteve spaceballs?
04:59 astro73|alice robin hood: men in tights
05:02 lwq1996 why does steam take so long to download
05:03 astro73|alice because your internet sucks
05:04 BatSteve yes
05:04 BatSteve but also because Valve screwed up pushing the new TF2 content and the steam servers are glitching
05:05 lwq1996 i have semi fast internet
05:05 Av_Nekoroms sooo tired....
05:05 lwq1996 but still so damn slow
05:05 Av_Nekoroms and yes i just woke up
05:10 Cprossu steam also is fucked up right now
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05:10 Cprossu reallllly fucked up
05:10 Cprossu and my precious gmod is now pooped again
05:11 astro73|alice see lwq1996? You're internet is so bad, it messed up steam.
05:11 Toastdude astro73|alice: We're men, we're men in tights! (tight tights!)
05:11 lwq1996 screw off astro -.-
05:11 astro73|alice Toastdude: not that far yet, but yes.
05:11 Toastdude Oh... Sorry
05:12 Toastdude What part are you at?
05:13 astro73|alice achoo getting beat up
05:14 Toastdude Ah
05:14 Toastdude Bless you.
05:15 Cprossu BatSteve since gmod's pooched want to tf2?
05:15 Toastdude :P
05:15 BatSteve Just started a payday game
05:15 BatSteve couple minutes?
05:15 Cprossu woo enjoy!
05:16 Toastdude When I first got on the IRC you two were playing Gorillas...
05:18 Cprossu that was pretty funny too
05:20 Cprossu then again in gorillas you shoot banannas at monkey like things, I think the goal of TF2 is rather similar
05:20 Cprossu *exploding banannas
05:21 Toastdude lol
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05:21 Cprossu all I can say though is (with regards to gmod) FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF http://oi40.tinypic.com/x1yruv.jpg
05:22 Toastdude That's what happens to me with TF2..
05:22 astro73|alice 5h? I think that might be segfault...
05:30 y007ghg7- Cprossu, i know how you feel...
05:30 BatSteve Cprossu: tf2?
05:31 Cprossu playing right now
05:32 Toastdude Hi y007ghg7-
05:32 y007ghg7- hi
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05:37 lwq1996 anyone ever play nuclear dawn?
05:37 lwq1996 toastdude have you?
05:37 Toastdude Nope
05:37 lwq1996 damn
05:37 lwq1996 idk what it is and i wan to see if its good
05:38 lwq1996 im getting it for free through steam
05:38 y007ghg7- im happy
05:38 y007ghg7- i just bought a new headset
05:38 y007ghg7- http://www.turtlebeach.com/products/ps3-gaming-headsets/ear-force-p11.aspx
05:38 BotSteve Title: PS3 Gaming Headset | Ear Force P11 | Turtle Beach
05:39 astro73|alice I've played thermonuclear war. Is that anything like it?
05:40 lwq1996 idk
05:40 lwq1996 im downloading it right now and am gonna try it out tomorrow
05:40 Cprossu defcon? @ astro73|alice?
05:40 astro73|alice .w thermonuclear war (game)
05:40 BotSteve "WarGames is a 1983 American Cold War suspense/science-fiction film written by Lawrence Lasker and Walter F. Parkes and directed by John Badham." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WarGames
05:40 astro73|alice ummm.... no
05:41 astro73|alice excuse me, it's Nuclear War
05:41 astro73|alice .w Nuclear War (game)
05:41 BotSteve "Nuclear War is battle in which nuclear weapons are used." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_War_(game)
05:41 astro73|alice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_War_(card_game)
05:41 BotSteve Title: Nuclear War (card game) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
05:43 astro73|alice or, as my friends called it, Boom!
05:45 lwq1996 you know your internet is being hoged when you are only downloading at 237bytes a sec
05:46 Toastdude ....
05:48 lwq1996 im not hoggin it its my bro sis mom and dad
05:50 Toastdude I mean, wow, that's slow...
05:50 lwq1996 ik
06:00 * Toastdude is crying from laughing
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06:01 lwq1996 how
06:01 lwq1996 hi superphosphate
06:02 Toastdude penguinz0'
06:02 Toastdude Hi SuperPhosphate!
06:03 SuperPhosphate Hi toastdude
06:03 SuperPhosphate cool name'
06:03 Toastdude How are you?
06:03 lwq1996 so you new here?
06:04 SuperPhosphate newish
06:04 lwq1996 ah
06:04 Toastdude P has been here before
06:04 SuperPhosphate also hi Iwq1996
06:04 * lwq1996 kicks steams ass
06:05 lwq1996 sorry thats an L
06:05 lwq1996 sorry :P
06:05 SuperPhosphate Lwq1996
06:05 SuperPhosphate ah yes that works on my tab too!
06:06 Lwq1996 lol
06:07 SuperPhosphate so whats happening? Anyone have a  cool usb christmas tree attachement?
06:07 Lwq1996 im waiting for games to download on steam and i dont know what that is
06:09 SuperPhosphate http://smithsonelectrical.com/free-usb-christmas-tree.html
06:09 BotSteve Title: Free USB Christmas Tree | Residential Electrician San Diego
06:09 SuperPhosphate like this
06:10 Lwq1996 nope i dont have that
06:11 SuperPhosphate Its not the bes usb gadget but its cool now
06:11 SuperPhosphate best*
06:11 Lwq1996 cool
06:12 * Lwq1996 kicks steam in the nuts
06:12 BatSteve seeya!
06:12 Lwq1996 damn things so slow
06:12 Toastdude Bye BatSteve-Away
06:12 Lwq1996 bye BatSteve-Away
06:12 SuperPhosphate and what are you busy with Toastdude??
06:13 Toastdude Finishing homework
06:13 Lwq1996 hahahahaha
06:13 Toastdude I should make a menorah....
06:13 SuperPhosphate cool, what subject?
06:13 Lwq1996 i already got done
06:13 Toastdude USB menorah!
06:13 Toastdude Lit..
06:14 SuperPhosphate is it a good book.poem or something stupid?
06:15 Toastdude Poetry project
06:16 SuperPhosphate I used to love Kubla Khan
06:16 SuperPhosphate but the teacher didnt have a clue
06:20 Lwq1996 why in the hell does the download want to run at 247bytes a sex
06:20 Lwq1996 sec
06:20 Lwq1996 damn my tiredness
06:21 SuperPhosphate lol
06:27 Lwq1996 im going to bed later
06:27 SuperPhosphate goodnight lwq-sleep
06:27 SuperPhosphate Happy snoring
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06:34 Toastdude Hi Seroster
06:34 Seroster Morning
06:34 BotSteve seroster: I have the following messages for you:
06:34 BotSteve At 03:46Z, BatSteve asked me to tell seroster that I have a friend who plays soldat
06:35 Seroster I set SIX damn alarms
06:35 Seroster Why do I wake up 15min before i have to leave?
06:35 SuperPhosphate lol, you need the cold shower alarm
06:37 Seroster I dont shower in the morning
06:37 Seroster For that very reason
06:39 SuperPhosphate Try going to bed earlier
06:39 Seroster Yep
06:40 Seroster I will, mom ;P
06:40 SuperPhosphate hahaha
06:40 astro73|alice that doesn't work as well as one might hope...
06:40 Seroster Well yes it does
06:40 SuperPhosphate I know :(
06:40 Seroster Not as well as you HOPE, but it does work
06:40 SuperPhosphate Its all about getting the sleep cycles right
06:41 Seroster Yeah
06:41 Seroster I dont get up at the same time two times aweek
06:41 SuperPhosphate different shifts?
06:41 Seroster 8.10 monday 11.50 tuesday 9.00 wednesday 9.40 thursday and 8.10 friday
06:41 Seroster Nah, different classes
06:41 Seroster Still in college
06:42 Seroster I dropped out since I found that college was full of idiots that I want nothing to do with. Then I got out in the world and noticed "Hey, they are the same idiots, but now they are idiots with power"
06:42 SuperPhosphate ah yes
06:44 SuperPhosphate Its scarey how idiots rule the world
06:44 SuperPhosphate Im off, have to take cupcakes to daughters school this morning, she
06:45 SuperPhosphate 'she is 12 tommorow
06:45 Toastdude Bye
06:45 SuperPhosphate bye toastdude
06:45 SuperPhosphate and everyone else :)
06:47 Seroster Grats
06:50 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 12-15-11 Nixie Counter, Carbon Heatshield, and Fun http://youtu.be/uoriu6-jEmw
07:22 Cprossu yNos: one word you need to know for those HP's BAMA.
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12:28 dbshortwave o.o
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12:33 Sgt_Lemming so... who wants to help me design the PSU for this tesla coil :-P
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12:33 Sgt_Lemming only needs to be capable of handling 580VDC at 58A
12:36 dbshortwave hmmmm
12:37 Experimentonomen guten morgenafternoon peepz
12:40 dbshortwave mornin
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12:54 JA12 guten morgen. och samma på engelska
13:03 mantere päiviä päiviä o/
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13:12 JA12 mantere =)
13:14 * Experimentonomen aims a 100MW pulse laser at JA12
13:14 JA12 puny photons. try harder
13:14 JA12 :P
13:16 * Experimentonomen power up the plasma weapon
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13:19 * JA12 hides behind walls made of gummy bears
13:21 * Experimentonomen blasts right through, turning everything into charcoal :P
13:22 JA12 he's too powerful. my sweet defences aren't holding up
13:24 JA12 there. some inspiration for your next haiku
13:27 * Experimentonomen looks at his disassambled heatsink tunnel
13:34 yNos :D
13:34 yNos hello all
13:41 dbshortwave THATS WHAT THOSE SCOPES ARE !
13:42 dbshortwave i have microwave read out ocilloscopes
13:42 dbshortwave ment to read ghz
13:43 Sgt_Lemming lo yNos
13:44 yNos hows everyone doing today?
13:44 Sgt_Lemming not bad
13:45 Sgt_Lemming have to admit something yNos, giving up on freebsd
13:45 Sgt_Lemming getting it running stably on a ZFS volume is a PITA
13:45 Sgt_Lemming and I only have two discs in the machine...
13:46 yNos stability is the reason i dont run fbsd on anything other than a laptop
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13:58 Sgt_Lemming stability issues with FreeBSD yNos?
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14:01 sndwrx mornin'
14:02 sndwrx yNos: You're suggesting that FreeBSD is more stable on a laptop than a standard platform?
14:02 sndwrx While I have to admit, I haven't used FreeBSD thoroughly since 4.x...
14:03 Sgt_Lemming 9.0RC3 wouldn't even boot from USB in the machine in question >_<
14:03 sndwrx I ran FreeBSD servers for years without a hitch.
14:05 tonsofpcs sndwrx: I think he's sayng that the laptop shuts down often enough that long-term stability isn't an issue
14:06 tonsofpcs yNos: so we had a consultant come in and he's pushing IT infrastructure overhaul to management :D
14:07 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, lemme guess, you've been pushing for it for 6 months?
14:08 sndwrx (or six years in some places, argh)
14:08 sndwrx tonsofpcs: What kind of overhaul are you looking at?
14:08 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: uh... sure, we'll go with that
14:08 tonsofpcs sndwrx: everything.
14:08 sndwrx hurr
14:09 sndwrx That's usually the usage of overhaul.  :P
14:09 tonsofpcs yes, it indeed is.
14:10 tonsofpcs anyway, I has a meeting about completely different infrastructure in under an hour, off to work...
14:11 sndwrx I mean are you looking at six cubicles with a computer in each and VoIP in half of them, or is it a 500 client network with 60 servers?
14:11 Sgt_Lemming jeebus h frelling christ
14:11 Sgt_Lemming 44.8GB rip of Tron: Legacy
14:11 sndwrx And what's your involvement in the migration?
14:11 sndwrx wow.
14:12 Sgt_Lemming that's mildly ridiculous
14:12 sndwrx Not worth it unless your components are connected with Monster Cable.
14:12 Sgt_Lemming rofl
14:17 yNos sndwrx: freebsd is flakey as hell.. at least it has been for the last few releases i have run..  Sgt_Lemming run 8.X - it is the stable release.
14:18 yNos dont try running an rc, then complain it isnt stable :P
14:18 Sgt_Lemming yNos, was just trying it to see if I could get it running on ZFS a bit better
14:18 Sgt_Lemming RC's are normally pretty stable in my experience
14:18 yNos why ffs?
14:18 yNos erp
14:18 yNos zfs
14:18 Sgt_Lemming lol
14:18 Sgt_Lemming nice freudian slip :-P
14:19 yNos yeah
14:19 yNos zfs is nice if you have a dynamic system.. when you have to grow your filesystems fairly regularly
14:19 yNos for a desktop, a little planning goes a long way.
14:20 yNos other than for saying you run a production scalable file system..
14:23 sndwrx RC is rarely stable with FreeBSD.  :P
14:23 yNos fbsd is rarely stable..
14:23 sndwrx But like I said, I haven't used it since version 4.x.
14:23 sndwrx Older versions were quite stable.
14:23 yNos i guess if you are coming from linux or windows it is stable..
14:23 yNos sndwrx: i think it was the 7 series the effed fbsd in the stability area
14:24 sndwrx yeah?
14:24 yNos imho
14:24 yNos that is when i stopped playing with it..
14:24 yNos i hate redhat.
14:24 sndwrx I don't know if it's gotten any better, but PC-BSD was ...
14:25 sndwrx Well, let's just say it was about as stable as an elephant balancing on the shoulders of a mouse.
14:25 yNos it is company policy that the only non-commercial *nix we have on site is redhat :(
14:25 yNos it sbullshit
14:25 * yNos *rage*rage*rage*rage*rage*rage*rage*rage*rage*rage*
14:25 sndwrx Which is somewhat sad, because many many years ago I was somewhat excited for the project.
14:25 Sgt_Lemming yNos, this is for the minecraft server
14:25 sndwrx yNos: Wait, "non-commercial"?   haha.
14:26 Sgt_Lemming I wanna use ZFS with ARC to cache the world and dbase
14:26 yNos and you are tying to make your boot volume zfs?
14:27 Sgt_Lemming yeah, only two discs in the machine, so I'd like to do RAIDZ1
14:27 yNos does it support booting off a zfs raid?
14:27 Sgt_Lemming kind of....
14:27 Sgt_Lemming it's difficult
14:27 yNos well there's your answer :P
14:27 Sgt_Lemming fuck load of commands to type in to make it work
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14:28 Sgt_Lemming I might try it again at some stage
14:28 yNos it supports booting from lvm iirc.
14:28 yNos lvm supports cache write through..
14:28 Sgt_Lemming cache write through is good, ARC is leagues better
14:29 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adaptive_replacement_cache
14:29 BotSteve Title: Adaptive replacement cache - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
14:30 yNos how much activity does minecraft make?
14:30 yNos how busy does it keep your db server?
14:31 MadManMarkAu Last time I checked, bandwidth is 11kb/s, up to 110kb/s when teleporting/downloading/connecting. CPU can be up to 100% on a 2.7GHz Xeon, ram up to 2Gb
14:31 MadManMarkAu That was the minecraft usage stats on my server
14:32 yNos are there any db tunables there?
14:33 Sgt_Lemming MadManMarkAu, we have 40+ plugins, and run two SQL databases simultaneously
14:33 Sgt_Lemming one for block change logging, the other for stats loggins
14:33 MadManMarkAu Same, but one MySQL database
14:33 MadManMarkAu Mine is just block change
14:35 MadManMarkAu Speaking of, I need to update it
14:35 MadManMarkAu Meh, I'll do it tomorrow after cleaning house
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15:21 wannabe1987 hi sparky
15:21 wannabe1987 .log
15:21 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
15:21 dbshortwave x.x
15:21 wannabe1987 hi
15:21 dbshortwave hi
15:21 wannabe1987 http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lvlhyiejoa1r4uzbto1_500.png
15:22 SparkyProjects Hi
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15:30 wannabe1987 hi mikey-t1994
15:30 mikey-t1994 hi there,
15:31 mikey-t1994 just checking out this irc as i haven't been on it yet
15:31 wannabe1987 how are you?
15:31 wannabe1987 cool
15:31 mikey-t1994 not bad, yourself, just waiting for the snow over here in england
15:32 wannabe1987 well, i'm pretty sure MI doesn't have any as well.
15:32 SparkyProjects Hi Mikey, welcome to the group, what part of England ?
15:32 SparkyProjects I'm in South Wales
15:33 mikey-t1994 I'm from a place called redditch, just south of birmingham , we had a glimmer of snow but it all seems to be turning to rain now
15:34 SparkyProjects Yep, i know Redditch, seems a lot of UK geeks are from the midlands, have you been in the forum in the UK board ?
15:35 mikey-t1994 yes, just posted there recently,  must be something about the midlands and making / breaking electronics
15:41 Monkeh You're all too far bleedin' north
15:41 wannabe1987 you're all too far across the damn pond!
15:41 Monkeh wannabe1987: Hey, you're the ones on the wrong side
15:41 wannabe1987 you're the ones that made us leave....and we have the lab :P
15:42 wannabe1987 besides, theres not enough room for all 'mericans plus brits in britian
15:43 * Monkeh makes a phonecall to Bickleigh
15:43 Monkeh Let's see what we can do about you having the lab.. :P
15:43 mikey-t1994 plenty of space over there for me, i would not complain although i would miss the NHS with my clumsiness
15:43 Monkeh mikey-t1994: Yes, the NHS, despite being a godawful mess, is wodnerful.
15:43 wannabe1987 nhs - nat'l health svc?
15:43 mikey-t1994 yes
15:44 mikey-t1994 the NHS has rebuilt me several times now. could not walk away from that.
15:45 wannabe1987 lol
15:45 wannabe1987 no, no, don't leave....our health care sucks unless you have $$$$$$$
15:46 mikey-t1994 if i had $$$$$ i would be over there right now, it nearly broke me buying a flag for the lab
15:46 wannabe1987 lol  are you the one that sent the second w/o a name?
15:46 mikey-t1994 yes mate, i messaged chris on Facebook as it was a ebay america purchase
15:47 wannabe1987 ahhhh
15:47 SparkyProjects The NHS keeps me alive (pills), i couldn't afford to live in the states :P
15:47 Monkeh mikey-t1994: Did they happen to have a full range of flags?
15:47 SparkyProjects Besides, Michigan is too flat compared to the Welsh valleys
15:47 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Bit boring without Tornados rolling through at the crack of dawn, eh? :)
15:47 mikey-t1994 yes any flag you want, as for welsh valleys, i was there last month photographing the mach loop
15:48 Monkeh mikey-t1994: Any F15s around trying to blow your eardrums?
15:48 SparkyProjects Mach loop ?
15:48 mikey-t1994 low flying test area, something us brits are very good at.
15:49 Monkeh SparkyProjects: System of valleys up there in Wales, used for low-level training by the RAF, RN, USAF, and anyone else who happens to be flying around.
15:49 SparkyProjects Monkeh, you should hear the thunder when it rolls through, the echo is great, unfortunately by the time i got the camera it had passed through
15:49 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Not the sort of tornado I was referring to.. :)
15:49 mikey-t1994 and no f15 that day, couple of chinook, the rest i am unsure until i edit my images as i had to shoot and roll quickly,
15:50 Monkeh mikey-t1994: Oh, man, the Chinook must be a hell of a sound in a valley
15:50 SparkyProjects Ah, the plane, that would be cool to see, and would have a great sound through here :D
15:50 * Cprossu ducks head in
15:50 * Monkeh boots Cprossu back out
15:50 Cprossu how goes it yNos?
15:50 * Cprossu blows up the door
15:50 * Cprossu fixes the door making sure he has a key
15:50 mikey-t1994 it was and we all got a wave, and fyi we now have snow in redditch
15:51 wannabe1987 you may keep it
15:51 mikey-t1994 haha im ok 4 x 4 at the ready with winter tyres
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15:52 Monkeh SparkyProjects: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsHQ4zOnPL0
15:52 BotSteve Title: Great Sounding F-15 Eagles Flying Through The Mach Loop Wales. - YouTube
15:53 mikey-t1994 somewere on youtube is a passenger eye view of flying through there, and a very good website documenting the whole area with some good images
15:53 Monkeh mikey-t1994: It looks a lot faster from inside. :)
15:54 Monkeh If you've ever watched Airwolf, you now know where they got the idea for the howl from.
15:54 mikey-t1994 try capturing one in frame on camera! i know how fast they are
15:55 Monkeh mikey-t1994: Shame really, they don't let them open them up properly down there any more.
15:55 SparkyProjects The Mach loop is in North Wales, i'm in the south, next to the Rhondda valley
15:55 Monkeh mikey-t1994: They're not allowed to go supersonic anywhere, and they don't want to risk going full out through there where people are watching.
15:56 Monkeh Although the last plane on that video gets a bit of afterburner going
15:56 mikey-t1994 yes i understand they had a lot of complaints, next year we are heading to scotland to get some images of real quick stuff. i was based at lossiemouth for a short while
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15:57 Monkeh mikey-t1994: Unfortunately you still won't get supersonic. :{
15:58 Monkeh Although that's partially a good thing, because if you think petrol is expensive, you try eating the cost of the afterburners on a Typhoon.
15:58 SparkyProjects Issn't there a rule they can't go supersonic over land ?
15:58 mikey-t1994 no i realise that but it is another good spotters paradise. you need out at sea to photograph supersonic really
15:58 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Correct, aircraft are not allowed to go supersonic anywhere over the UK
15:59 Monkeh SparkyProjects: If you ever do see (or more likely, hear) a military aircraft going supersonic over the UK, you may want to be heading for a bomb shelter.
16:01 SparkyProjects By the time i hear a shockwave, it would be too late :P
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16:01 BotSteve Ponko is credit to team!
16:01 mikey-t1994 *grabs tin foil helmet*
16:01 * Ponko fists the air
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16:02 Ponko yay me i guess lol
16:02 Monkeh producerBillWork: Oi, you, use a proper drill! ;)
16:02 SparkyProjects Mikey, i'll just put on my Fireman's helmet :D
16:02 producerBillWork what?
16:02 producerBillWork when hanging hooks?
16:03 Monkeh Yeah, that little thing is hopeless
16:03 producerBillWork that drill,,, that drill works great
16:03 Monkeh Not for drilling those bricks it doesn't
16:03 Monkeh Although your technique is.. what technique? ;)
16:03 mikey-t1994 haha brilliant, right nice chatting to you all , i have to go have a cig, and do some more promotion etc you all have a good day may chat later
16:04 producerBillWork I don't understand that drill is a hammer drill
16:04 Monkeh Ah, but it's not, it's a percussion drill
16:04 Monkeh That big corded Bosch is a hammer drill.
16:05 producerBillWork ok,,, well not having to go up and down the ladder changing drill motors saved me a ton of pain
16:05 Monkeh Ah, that's what they make screwdrivers for. :)
16:06 producerBillWork ok well I will drill the holes you put the screws in
16:06 producerBillWork ;)
16:06 Monkeh heh, if I could get over there I'd do both. :P
16:06 Monkeh Cordless SDS + cordless screwdriver = ease. :)
16:07 producerBillWork ok
16:07 producerBillWork where are you located?
16:07 Monkeh Other side of the pond
16:08 producerBillWork i see
16:08 producerBillWork well
16:08 producerBillWork um
16:08 producerBillWork um
16:09 Monkeh producerBillWork: Tell the Captain to go after Bosch as a sponsor. They're better than Dewalt. ;)
16:09 Monkeh < tool snob
16:09 producerBillWork lol
16:09 producerBillWork sure
16:09 producerBillWork If we could get a tool sponser that would be great
16:10 Monkeh One of these: http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=RHH180-01
16:10 Monkeh And one of these: http://www.boschtools.com/Products/Tools/Pages/BoschProductDetail.aspx?pid=PS21-2A
16:10 Monkeh And you're a happy man up a ladder.
16:10 BotSteve Title: RHH180-01 18V Li-Ion Rotary Hammer | Bosch
16:10 BotSteve Title: PS21-2A 12V Max 2-Speed Pocket Driver™ | Bosch
16:11 Cprossu hey producerBillWork how goes it?
16:11 producerBillWork ok. Playing with the weather camera
16:11 producerBillWork moving it around
16:12 SparkyProjects Monkeh, i'd go for the 24 volt version of the first one, much better when drilling right through with bigger bits for cables
16:12 SparkyProjects We used to drill in excess of 1 inch dia
16:12 Monkeh SparkyProjects: If you're going clean through I'd always resort to a corded one personally.
16:13 SparkyProjects Some locations in the lab may be hard to get power to
16:13 Monkeh SparkyProjects: They don't actually do 24V any more btw, that range is oooold. Still good, though, I have access to one when I need one.
16:13 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYAw79386WI
16:13 BotSteve Title: Around The Corner (1937) How Differential Steering Works - YouTube
16:14 wannabe1987 hi masterofmonks
16:14 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Reason I suggest the 18V is it's lighter and more compact than the 36V, and you can then share batteries with their normal sized cordless tools (only a few take 36V and they're big, angry ones. Also, they all cost over twice as much.)
16:14 masterofmonks Morning.
16:14 Monkeh SparkyProjects: The 36V SDS is about £500 last I saw. The 18V is more like 250.
16:16 SparkyProjects We had the 24v one at work, even used a 3 inch core bit on a concreete wall a couple of times.
16:16 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Yeah, I've used one of the 24V ones (there's.. five different models? Two battery fittings too). Core drilling is ambitious. :)
16:18 SparkyProjects I liked the Black and Decker system they brought out, it was a case that included the battery pack, and had several tools that connected with a cord.
16:18 SparkyProjects A bit like using a transformer without the need for running a power extension.
16:18 SparkyProjects This made the tool light, but with the ability to have a lot of power, unfortunately  it was only a 12 volt system.
16:19 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I remember seeing those. Always struck me as a good idea for meaty tools where you can't get a mains supply.
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16:20 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Give it say, 48V so it's got some range and you can get up a ladder with a really light SDS with lots of power
16:20 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Who cares if the battery weighs 15kg if it's sitting on the ground?
16:20 SparkyProjects Agree
16:20 Monkeh All this lugging about of 110V transformers, people are used to carrying big stuff about
16:20 SparkyProjects You could have something the size of a roll-along tool box with a huge battery
16:21 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Yeah, easily. And something the size of a 1.5kVA transformer for more difficult areas.
16:21 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Hell, those could be the battery packs for the big unit!
16:21 SparkyProjects We got rid of out 110 transformers for most of our tools, it was either mains or battery
16:22 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Unfortunately a lot of places won't let you on site with 240V stuff these days.
16:22 Monkeh I know a lot of tradesmen who have resorted to keeping both voltages so they don't have to lug those things around houses for smaller work, though.
16:22 Monkeh They make a real mess of carpet
16:22 SparkyProjects We were a big estate with many buildings, i was maintenance
16:23 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Oh, yeah, the problem is when you have lots of different people working on site, they dislike you trailing 240V everywhere.
16:23 Monkeh If there's an incident the HSE gets all pissy about 'Why did you allow 240V on site?', so they cover their arses
16:27 SparkyProjects Everyone gets scared of HSE, but in reality it's a case of showing you carried out the work in the safest way
16:27 SparkyProjects And being electrical we looked after the tools.
16:27 SparkyProjects Though contractors had to use 110 or battery, as we had no control over the safety of their tools, we would also check the mains side of their transformers once they got set up.
16:27 SparkyProjects We stopped one contractor working because their transformer was cracked, we did lend them one of ours in the end.
16:27 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I've lost count of the number of damaged transformers I've seen.
16:28 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Cracked cases, damaged cables, cables pulled out of the gland (that takes some doing)
16:28 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Always makes me laugh to see a 20m 240V cable trailed across site for a transformer. Kind of defeats the purpose.
16:30 SparkyProjects Yep, seen that too, the worker is right next to the trans
16:30 SparkyProjects and only 20m ?
16:30 SparkyProjects Seen near on 100 metres with several extensions outside :P
16:31 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Nice.
16:31 dbshortwave whats the worst hard drive on the planet?
16:31 Monkeh dbshortwave: Seagate 7200.11
16:31 SparkyProjects Oh, and upturned buckets over the connections to protect from rain :P
16:31 Monkeh Says the proud owner of four of them..
16:32 Monkeh SparkyProjects: :D
16:32 dbshortwave ive always had issues with western digital
16:32 dbshortwave but any way
16:32 Monkeh dbshortwave: Never lost a WD. Except in a laptop which was, I assume, dropped. (they declined to answer that question.)
16:32 dbshortwave my mind is like a crappy hard drive... it loads its os but crashes every 20 mins
16:33 Cprossu well everyone knows that me and WD have a hate hate relationship lol
16:33 Cprossu I just am unlucky with their drives I suppose
16:33 dbshortwave im with you on that one Cprossu
16:34 Monkeh RMA'd all but one Seagate I've ever bought, never sent a WD back. Bought lots of WDs by now. :)
16:34 dbshortwave ive always had them overheat
16:34 Sgt_Lemming I have 9 samsung drives atm
16:34 Cprossu I've only had to RMA a single seagate, that was a 500gb that came out of the china factory
16:34 Monkeh [   33.690152] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
16:34 Cprossu and every single samsung has been RMA'd multiple times
16:34 Monkeh I think it'll find it's mistaken.
16:34 Sgt_Lemming all of them have been running 24/7 for the last 12 months, no errors
16:35 Sgt_Lemming reasonably high load too
16:35 Cprossu nice
16:35 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I've heard good things about Samsung, but I refuse to purchase them.
16:35 Cprossu last samsung drive I tried was one of their 2tb'ers
16:35 Cprossu worked for about a month
16:35 Cprossu the replacement drive they sent me when it detects works fine
16:35 Cprossu I decided after 4 months it wasn't worth it to send it back
16:36 Sgt_Lemming me and my 2 house mates, plus test minecraft servers, plus media serving for PS3 and torrents
16:36 Cprossu at least I only paid $85 for it
16:36 dbshortwave ive had good luck with laptop drives
16:36 Sgt_Lemming ripping down a backup copy of the production server atm
16:36 Sgt_Lemming only 19'000 files >_<
16:36 Cprossu I've had great luck with travelstars
16:37 dbshortwave th only 2 i have had good luck with are Toshibas and hitachis
16:37 Cprossu love them.
16:37 Cprossu though my momentus 7200.1 is still running somehow
16:37 Sgt_Lemming doing it via SFTP, so not exactly what you call fast
16:37 Cprossu dbshortwave : http://oi43.tinypic.com/1r6mau.jpg
16:37 dbshortwave ive got a crap load of cheetas in the basement
16:37 Cprossu ^ hah hah hah hah
16:37 Monkeh Cprossu: Mine still lives, although it behaves a bit oddly. It's an RMA though.
16:38 Cprossu XP SP1, exposed to the internet.
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16:38 dbshortwave LOL
16:38 Monkeh Cprossu: I find Seagate drives work ok once you get them replaced.
16:38 Monkeh Cprossu: Because the refurbs actually get looked at, unlike the junk which rolls off the line.
16:38 Cprossu so far I only had to RMA one seagate.
16:39 Sgt_Lemming desktop machine has two seagate drives in it
16:39 Sgt_Lemming both working fine
16:39 Cprossu I've got 25mb all the way up to 2tb drives
16:39 Sgt_Lemming they are bot hybrid drives too
16:39 Cprossu that 25mb I think is as old as me
16:39 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I have one with four. I'll give you one guess how much I trust that machine.
16:39 dbshortwave ive got 3 seagates all three factory new all sata
16:39 Cprossu I have a hybrid samsung laptop drive in my netbook
16:39 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Oh, god, the hybrids? Those are a fucking disaster.
16:39 Cprossu it's a pos
16:39 dbshortwave 2 500's and 1 350
16:39 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: They've been releasing beta firmware to people because they're unable to write or test it properly themselves!
16:40 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, never had any issues with mine at all
16:40 Sgt_Lemming not one
16:40 Cprossu cool
16:40 Cprossu I contemplated one day making a little raid 0 external scratch drive using those
16:40 Cprossu one day I might
16:41 SparkyProjects I've got a Maxtor (main drive) and a Seagate (2nd drive) in this PC, no problems so far.
16:41 SparkyProjects I also have a Buffalo remote HD, not sure what make of drive they use
16:42 Cprossu I had a buffalo, it had a WD which failed.
16:42 wannabe1987 time to move on out.  bbl
16:42 Seroster MRGH
16:42 Cprossu had a Simpletech 2.5" external too
16:42 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Maxtor Maxtor or Seagate Maxtor?
16:42 Ponko oh no it's back
16:42 Cprossu also wd also failed (320gb)
16:43 SparkyProjects Thanks Cprossu, now i know what make they use, but it's been  reliable for me so far
16:43 Cprossu if it's a seagate maxtor it's better than a quantum maxtor or god forbit a maxtor maxtor lol
16:43 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, bigfoot
16:43 SparkyProjects Maxtor STM3250310AS Monkeh
16:43 Ponko idk why but seeing Warwick Davis falling out of a 4x4 is very amusing
16:43 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Seagate then
16:43 Cprossu so a seagate
16:43 Sgt_Lemming seagate
16:44 Monkeh That's a 7200.10
16:44 Monkeh They were ok drives, actually.
16:44 Monkeh The 7200.11 was epic fail and the 7200.12 series has issues.
16:44 Cprossu I run a 7200.11 Monkeh :P
16:44 Monkeh Cprossu: I own four of them.
16:44 Cprossu been running it since december 2008
16:44 SparkyProjects It's what was supplied with the PC, the 2nd drive was supplied with my previous PC from the same company
16:44 Cprossu 750gb
16:44 Monkeh Cprossu: One is still the original I bought.
16:45 Monkeh Cprossu: Its twin headcrashed in a week.
16:45 Monkeh Cprossu: The others have been RMA'd for massive amounts of bad sectors.
16:45 Cprossu still I am on 3 years damn near on the dot so far,
16:45 Monkeh Cprossu: One good one. Three bad ones. Hmm. ;)
16:46 Sgt_Lemming sigh, fucking koala's >_<
16:46 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: 308.
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16:46 Sgt_Lemming eh?
16:47 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: .308
16:47 Sgt_Lemming yeah, no
16:47 Sgt_Lemming protected species... in the middle of suburbia
16:47 Monkeh Fair enough
16:47 Monkeh Gulls have buggered off before I could get my rifle repaired. Lucky bastards. Next year..
16:48 Sgt_Lemming heh
16:48 Sgt_Lemming koala's are fucking noisy, especially when it's this time of year...
16:48 Sgt_Lemming i.e. the height of the mating season
16:48 Monkeh So are gulls.
16:48 Cprossu blue jays are damned annoying too =P
16:49 Cprossu and they take a lot of BB's to kill from what I remember
16:49 Monkeh Cprossu: That's why you fire suitable projectiles.
16:49 Cprossu like bazooka's, but it gets expensive fast.
16:50 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMXBV9oLbVk
16:50 BotSteve Title: Koala Mating Call - YouTube
16:50 Monkeh Cprossu: I fire zinc myself.
16:50 Cprossu wow. was cruising newegg for deals
16:50 Cprossu http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812999181R
16:50 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - Open Box: CABLES TO GO 42058 RapidRun Runner UXGA DIN Coupler M/M
16:50 Cprossu ^ what in the fuck, never seen that before
16:51 Sgt_Lemming they are not the cuddly little fluff balls think
16:51 Sgt_Lemming they are also freaking violent at times
16:51 Ponko yes and you get police knocking at your door Cprossu
16:52 Ponko or worse case knocking it down
16:52 Cprossu the police I can live with Ponko, it's the neighbors with pitchforks, torches, and molitov's that get me.
16:52 Ponko what about the military?
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16:57 Cprossu Ponko they don't even get a chance
16:57 Cprossu they can play clean up
16:57 Ponko but is it legal to own such fire power
16:58 Cprossu what I am saying is my intestines will be strewn about the palm trees around
16:58 Cprossu by the locals
16:58 Ponko lol but is it possible to own that
16:59 Cprossu it's _possible_ under the right set of circumstances
16:59 Cprossu this is Arizona.
16:59 Ponko lol
16:59 Cprossu you don't even have to register certain weaponry if it was made in the state ._.
17:00 Cprossu and potato guns don't qualify as firearms either
17:00 Cprossu and you can own a fully automatic machinegun
17:00 producerBillWork lol my goto command for the camera,,,, well it just went crazy
17:00 producerBillWork lol
17:00 Cprossu was worth a shot
17:00 Cprossu weathercam or the dome?
17:01 Cprossu @ producerBillWork
17:01 producerBillWork weather camera
17:01 producerBillWork lol
17:01 Cprossu lol
17:01 producerBillWork i got it back but it makes me laugh
17:01 producerBillWork I think I  might need to go through the go to code again
17:02 Cprossu well it's been a while
17:02 Cprossu wow it did kinda go nuts after all
17:02 Cprossu (looking at the log lol)
17:03 Cprossu be back in a bit. I really don't know why we are that dark either
17:04 Ponko you should see TGG:NSFW for that Cprossu lol
17:04 Cprossu there we go upped that 1/2 a db gain
17:04 Cprossu should look less nuclear war now
17:06 producerBillWork what?
17:06 producerBillWork where did you make that adjustment?
17:10 SparkyProjects Monkeh, did you see the PM i sent ?
17:11 Ponko wow what do you NOT do when you're at dinner with a date
17:12 Ponko you don't check the other women out that's for sure
17:12 Cprossu producerBillWork on the streaming comp
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17:12 Ponko he's in the interface for it
17:12 wannabe1987 hi Ponko
17:13 dbshortwave heh
17:13 dbshortwave im a mean person -.-
17:13 dbshortwave lets leave it at that
17:13 SparkyProjects Ponko, you should check out other women, then tell your date that she is still better than the competition :P
17:13 Ponko hey kelly
17:13 Ponko good point
17:13 SparkyProjects You don't get older without getting wiser :D
17:14 Ponko true
17:15 Ponko yeah but what i forgot to mention was that you don't check out the competition and ask your date if you could get off with them
17:16 SparkyProjects Ah, that's a problem :P
17:16 Ponko and the solution is simple
17:17 wannabe1987 my battery level icon didn't show up when i booted :/
17:18 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Err.. Yes.
17:19 Ponko 3 worded solution?
17:21 Seroster Dodedo
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17:28 masterofmonks Hello rowan138
17:31 rowan138 livestream is boring at the moment
17:32 Cprossu rowan138: I can change the tint so it looks all weird and bizzaro if you want
17:32 Cprossu to make it more exciting
17:33 SparkyProjects Change the view
17:33 Cprossu can't do that, don't know what's going on at the lab
17:34 Cprossu HYPER FI!
17:34 Cprossu lol
17:34 rowan138 do a barrel roll :)
17:34 Cprossu and back to normal
17:35 Cprossu hrmmm upconversion, haven't messed with that yet
17:35 rowan138 we really ned a multiview system for the livestream so viewers can choose the camera they want to view
17:36 Cprossu rowan138: donate us a few Blackmagic intensity cards or a Decklink card, we'll make it happen
17:36 Cprossu right now the issue is lack of capture devices and internet bandwidth
17:37 Cprossu *good capture devices* I should say
17:37 Cprossu making a quick cut to test something
17:37 rowan138 ok
17:38 rowan138 wether something could be hacked together with several ati all in wonder cards and linux :)
17:39 Ponko omg watching Life's too short is painful and hilarious
17:41 wannabe1987 hi killakee
17:42 Cprossu well that experiment failed for now
17:43 Cprossu rowan138: tried that
17:43 Cprossu the output was less than stellar
17:43 Ponko hmmm Stella
17:43 * Ponko wants a pint of Stella Artios
17:43 Cprossu I was pusing a 1080i signal for the heck of it a bit ago
17:43 Cprossu but we don't have nearly the BW to keep up with it
17:43 Cprossu *pushing
17:44 Ponko Cprossu: is 1080i the same as 1080p apart from the obvious diffence
17:44 Ponko difference*
17:44 wannabe1987 .in 45min cookies
17:44 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 18:29Z
17:44 Cprossu well one's interlaced and one's not
17:44 Cprossu so 1/2 the lines
17:45 Ponko but which is better
17:45 Cprossu p obviously.
17:45 Monkeh Ponko: The one which isn't interraped
17:45 Cprossu .g 1080i vs 1080p
17:45 BotSteve Cprossu: http://reviews.cnet.com/1080i-vs-1080p-hdtv/
17:45 Ponko lol i figured
17:45 Monkeh 1080i is fairly crap really, it's sort of an intermediate standard because broadcast networks are still old and crap
17:46 Cprossu yeah
17:46 Cprossu but for the momement I am happy with the 1080i coming from my little silicondust unit (yay hdhomerun prime)
17:46 Cprossu also nearly every cablebox is 1080i @ Monkeh
17:46 Cprossu which is irritating
17:48 Experimentonomen interlacing is to emulate the flicker the older crt tvs had
17:48 Cprossu Experimentonomen: ?!
17:48 Cprossu 1080i was out before we had such things, and were still living with CRT's you know
17:48 Ponko my small Technika 19" LCD TV is 1080p and the big 34" plasma in the living room is 1080i
17:49 Experimentonomen where i live, crt's havent been seen in years
17:49 Cprossu plasma's flicker
17:49 Cprossu I hate it
17:49 dbshortwave CRT will slowly die -.-
17:49 Ponko sad but true
17:49 Experimentonomen where i live, crt died years ago, disappeared from the st0ore shelves almost 10 years ago
17:50 dbshortwave i know people out there that have their CRT's cleqaned and tuned up
17:50 dbshortwave i have 3, 3 gun CRT sets
17:50 Experimentonomen i hate crt anyways, flickers with annoying 50Hz and are blurry
17:50 dbshortwave 2 functioning CRT sets
17:50 Cprossu Experimentonomen: see ours run at 60hz =P
17:51 Ponko but tbf Cprossu idk if it's a Plasma
17:51 dbshortwave well
17:51 dbshortwave 4 cou nting the VGA monitors lol
17:51 Cprossu plazma is really annoying to me.
17:51 Cprossu it flickers worse than most CRT's
17:51 dbshortwave not fond of plasma
17:51 Cprossu and the '600hz refresh'
17:51 Cprossu is a joke
17:51 Cprossu it's a marketing term for motion blurring
17:52 SparkyProjects I only have 1 CRT, and that's on my BBC B+
17:52 Cprossu same on lcd sets 'omg 120hz refresh!!!!'
17:52 dbshortwave wait till you have to replace the X,Y, Z boards
17:53 dbshortwave can heat a small room with a plasma
17:53 dbshortwave same for LCD's lol
17:54 Cprossu my lifi projection set puts out some decent heat too
17:54 Monkeh Cprossu: Distribution systems suck, then. ;)
17:54 Ponko in my house we've got 5
17:54 dbshortwave DLP is really the only way you should go
17:54 Ponko well 5 tvs
17:54 Cprossu dlp makes me barf
17:54 dbshortwave the shitty part is when the bulb goes
17:54 Ponko 2 of them are CRTs
17:54 Cprossu at least it used to
17:55 Cprossu I got flickery red blue green
17:55 dbshortwave color wheel
17:55 Cprossu when watching it for more than a minute
17:55 Cprossu I am aware.
17:55 Cprossu piece of shit.
17:55 dbshortwave or RCA and there 'light tunnel' coming unglued
17:56 Cprossu my current TV is LCD projection, 1080p, light source is a luxim lifi 4000 inductive bulb
17:56 Cprossu http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Small-Light-Bulb-Overpowers-LEDs-2.jpg
17:56 dbshortwave damn
17:56 killakee lol rain in the hv lab ? i dont think that is optimum XD
17:56 BotSteve killakee: I have the following messages for you:
17:56 BotSteve At 01:56Z, wannabe1987 asked me to ask killakee if he wants me to send some butter overseas
17:57 killakee hahahahaha
17:57 killakee lol
17:57 Cprossu http://www.avmagazine.it/articoli/avprofessional/121/1333.jpg
17:58 Ponko wait what?
17:58 Cprossu ^ too bad they decided to have their RF circuit made custom instead of using a off the shelf solution
17:58 Ponko a leak in the HV lab?
17:58 killakee HAHA oh yeah
17:58 Cprossu we have had rain leaks in the hv lab since my first trip
17:58 killakee looked like niagra :)
17:58 SparkyProjects I remember one guy many years ago with a prototype projector, it was basically a slide projector with a LCD in place of the slide, last i heard he was working on gettig a colour LCD, then suddely we had the current form of projectors.
17:58 SparkyProjects I was hoping they would pursue the colour slide idea.
17:58 killakee keeeeeeeaags
17:58 Cprossu you have no clue how bad it got when I was there lol
17:59 Cprossu and there's other issues too killakee
17:59 Cprossu let me tell you
17:59 dbshortwave crappy roof to boot
17:59 Cprossu lol
17:59 Cprossu you know those 40 gallon rubbermade containers?
17:59 Cprossu *rubbermaid
17:59 killakee yeah
17:59 killakee i know
17:59 Cprossu http://www.plumbersurplus.com/images/prod/6/Rubbermaid-2547CPDIM-rw-159565-250775.jpg
18:00 Cprossu filled one in a night once
18:00 killakee what abuotethem ?
18:00 Cprossu with water that is
18:00 killakee holy
18:00 Cprossu that's a rather significant leak, eh?
18:00 killakee and no one can fix ?
18:00 killakee yeah
18:00 Cprossu there have been attempts
18:00 killakee it realy is
18:00 Seroster Waitwhat
18:00 killakee oh no luck
18:00 Seroster What flkuid?
18:01 killakee water
18:01 Seroster ... Right
18:01 Cprossu brown water.
18:01 Seroster ... Right
18:01 Cprossu ugly brown water
18:01 Seroster ... Right
18:01 killakee ugh .. brown lovely water XD
18:01 Cprossu that had gone through inulation
18:01 Seroster ... Right
18:01 SparkyProjects Only way to repair the leak is to re-roof, and that costs a lot of money, or would need a significant donation from a roofing company
18:01 Cprossu Seroster why the '... Right' ?
18:02 killakee oh
18:03 killakee not good :/
18:03 killakee hope it will be done soon though
18:03 killakee would hate to se something wrong happen to the tc or ppl :P
18:03 Ponko speaking of CRTs i have a BUSH BTV201TSIL in my bedroom and a Phillips 14PT1332/05
18:04 Cprossu that looks a lot like the ones photonicinduction likes to smash
18:04 Cprossu *the bush that is*
18:04 Ponko yeah a little
18:05 Ponko but not THIS one
18:05 Seroster I hate that guy.
18:05 * Ponko shakes his fist and gnashes his teeth
18:05 Cprossu we've been told
18:05 Cprossu why @ Seroster just curious
18:05 Cprossu his wiring is rather good o_o
18:05 Seroster His accent makes me want to stab a kitten.
18:05 Cprossu ok good enough reason
18:06 Cprossu but seriously what doesn't make you want to stab a kitten @ Seroster?
18:06 killakee no comment :P
18:06 Seroster erm... Boobies?
18:06 Cprossu no you'd find a reason
18:06 wannabe1987 killakee, see, i heard on NPR that you guys have a lack of butter.  i have a fridge full :P  i bought 5lbs the other day, in stick form :/
18:06 Experimentonomen whoever stabs a kitten will meet a set of rotating knices driven by a 1000 horsepower diesel engine :P
18:06 Cprossu knices?!
18:07 Experimentonomen knives*
18:07 Ponko Seroster if you talk to me i'll make you want to stab a kitten
18:07 killakee wannabe1987: i survive ;) i have all the butter i need ;)
18:07 Ponko and by talk i mean speak
18:07 wannabe1987 lol....
18:07 killakee thanx though ;)
18:08 SparkyProjects Seroster, Ponko is a cockney just like photy :P
18:08 killakee hehe
18:08 Seroster If his accent is even half as bad I'd stab him alongside the kitten =P
18:08 Ponko yeah everyone in London has there own knife
18:08 Ponko Luton DOUBLY so
18:09 SparkyProjects Ponko, you got a yt channel with your voice on it ?
18:09 Ponko no
18:09 Ponko i used to
18:09 Experimentonomen alot of ppl have knives, but i bet very few has one driven by a 1000HP diesel :P
18:09 Seroster ...The one you are currently using for your mr rabbit?
18:11 Ponko only you would ask that Seroster lol
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18:13 Experimentonomen gb'day mash
18:14 mashpriborintorg hiya
18:17 mashpriborintorg abandonned facilitis in Russia are... of the special kind http://lana-sator.livejournal.com/155269.html#cutid1
18:17 BotSteve Title: Заброшенные здания, недостроенные здания, военные объекты, брошенная техника, промзона - На задворках ракетнÐ[...]
18:17 Cprossu is that the hv one?
18:17 Cprossu *clicks*
18:17 mashpriborintorg oops sorry botsteve
18:18 Cprossu wow that's a cool one
18:18 mashpriborintorg the big  tubes are not for aspirine obvsiouly
18:18 killakee hey ennyone tryed elk meat tacos ?
18:19 Experimentonomen with elk u mean the horse like animal with large antlers ? the one commonly hit by cars in countries like sweden
18:19 Cprossu mashpriborintorg: http://fishki.net/comment.php?id=21722
18:19 BotSteve Title: Êîìïëåêñ óñòàíîâîê Òåñëà (20 ôîòî) - Fishki.Net | Ôèøêèíà êàðòèíêà
18:20 killakee Experimentonomen: yes i doo
18:20 mashpriborintorg Yeah I know this one, might be fun to power it up
18:20 Cprossu it's captains' wet dream is what it is lol
18:20 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, if photonicinduction is a cockney, then i must be a cunt :P
18:21 Experimentonomen i like his destruction vidz, their funny
18:22 killakee Cprossu: what is that ? a tc ? or a marx generator ?
18:23 Experimentonomen its a marx gen
18:23 Experimentonomen i believe the worlds first to make a spark the same lenght as a average lightning discharge
18:23 Ponko well the russians nuclear facilities were well as we saw above the brits like to point out where they are
18:23 Ponko http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheNotSecret
18:23 BotSteve Title: The Not Secret - Television Tropes & Idioms
18:24 Cprossu http://urban-decay.livejournal.com/2411392.html <- totally would love to visit this
18:24 BotSteve Title: urban_decay: abandoned nuclear reactor
18:24 Cprossu I think I saw this in a old soviet training video?!
18:24 Experimentonomen i would not want to go anywhere near a abandoned rusting nuclear reactor, thats for sure
18:25 Cprossu wow
18:25 Cprossu the wiring behind those cabinets is very well done
18:26 Cprossu it's so cute I wonder if it was a prototype for what the rbmk became
18:26 Ponko Cprossu is it weird to say i've had a dream in which i help win WW3
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18:27 Ponko or to put it another way to have a dream in which i fight in the 3rd world conflict
18:27 Cprossu what caused it Ponko?
18:27 Ponko idk i just had a dream it wasn't THAT detailed
18:29 BotSteve wannabe1987: cookies
18:29 wannabe1987 cookies will wait
18:30 Cprossu WOW
18:30 wannabe1987 i have a concert to head off to....w00t
18:30 Cprossu http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&amp;tl=en&amp;js=n&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=2&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fru.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2F%25D0%25A1%25D0%25B8%25D0%25B1%25D0%25B8%25D1%2580%25D1%2581%25D0%25BA%25D0%25B0%25D1%258F_%25D0%2590%25D0%25AD%25D0%25A1&amp;act=url
18:30 BotSteve Title: Google Translate
18:30 Cprossu ^ this is the reactor that was mentioned
18:30 iSasha 'Sup guys
18:30 Cprossu I was right it was a precursor to the rbmk!
18:31 mashpriborintorg I would love to take apart all these control panels :p
18:31 Experimentonomen power is still on o_O
18:32 iSasha You'll never guess what I found at the junkyard today!!!
18:32 Experimentonomen very unusual in old abandoned plants to se lights in panels still lit
18:32 Experimentonomen iSasha, a golden dog turd ? :P
18:32 mashpriborintorg it's the backup power they lacked at Chernobyl :p
18:33 Cprossu they only shut the reactor down in 1990 it seems
18:33 iSasha Experimentonomen: not quite - a Wacom Intuos 3 tablet!
18:33 Cprossu and the other 2 in '08
18:33 * dbshortwave sighs
18:34 Experimentonomen hm
18:34 dbshortwave id love a wacom
18:35 iSasha BTW guys, I have a question: how can I steadily increase the voltage to something after power has been turned on, then decrease the voltage steadily after power has been turned off?
18:35 Experimentonomen iSasha, it prolly ended up in the junkyard for a reason :P
18:35 astro73|alice hello?
18:35 iSasha Knowing the people who live here... who knows!
18:36 dbshortwave it more then likely works just needs a cable
18:36 dbshortwave or something on the controler came loose
18:36 iSasha Yeah, the cable was cut of
18:37 Ponko i wonder what Bunkers where in the UK
18:37 Ponko bar the one in Nantwich
18:37 iSasha But anyways, any of you know how to do that steady voltage rise and decrease thing?
18:37 dbshortwave yes
18:37 dbshortwave variac
18:37 Experimentonomen u mean linear decrease ?
18:38 iSasha Yes, a linear increase then a linear decrease. And I need it to be automatic.
18:39 Experimentonomen if u want it done automatically, us capacitors and conctant current thingies, if manual, buy the biggest variac u can ever find as u never know when u'll need more than 20 Amps at 240-400V
18:39 Experimentonomen constant*
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18:40 iSasha No, automatic, and cheap because I need to put one in every cupboard in the kitchen
18:41 Experimentonomen for lights ? u can buy switches that dim up and down instead of straight on/off
18:42 iSasha Yeah, but my budget is like 50$ for everything including LEDs
18:42 Experimentonomen or use a pwm circuit with a RC time constant on the modulation input, then a switch to turn voltage to the rc time constant on/off and voila
18:43 Experimentonomen but why dimming when opening/closing doors ? just on/off should be plenty
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18:45 Experimentonomen speaking on leds, here in sweden all mains fed led lights have been banned due to excess emi/rfi issues
18:45 Experimentonomen well all dimmable led lights
18:46 BatSteve yo
18:47 mashpriborintorg they where also speaking about UV issues with white led lights
18:48 mashpriborintorg because some are UV leds with a white phosphor dye actually
18:48 Experimentonomen white leds i've heard are actually blue leds with a phosfor in them like a crt
18:49 mashpriborintorg some are far too blue...
18:49 Ponko http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=WW3&amp;hl=en&amp;rlz=1T4SNYK_en-GBGB404GB405&amp;biw=1280&amp;bih=633&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbnid=EdzfTvdUmbShcM:&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1282240&amp;docid=zw3ToVBIpc_oKM&amp;imgurl=http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/23504000/ngbbs4ecde42b832b2.jpg&amp;w=520&amp;h=390&amp;ei=XI7rTsnzOsjE4gTX8sXgCA&amp;zoom=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=419&amp;vpy=334&amp;dur=580&amp;hovh=194&amp;hovw=259&amp;tx=133&amp;ty=139&amp;sig=110603223175523137016&amp;page=11&amp;tbnh=120&amp;tbnw=160&amp;st
18:50 Ponko EPIC
18:50 mashpriborintorg world record of the longuest url ?
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18:58 Ponko can i ask an OBVIOUS question what will cause WW3
18:59 Ponko because apparently the cold war was ww3 and the war on terroism is ww4 o_O
18:59 Ponko not my words however
18:59 Ponko but i know that's bull
19:01 BatSteve I have a feeling that if we were in a world war, we would know that we were in a world war.
19:01 Ponko exactly
19:01 Cprossu hmmm
19:02 Ponko but what would be the causes do you think
19:03 Ponko anyway
19:04 BatSteve obviously, it's when George W. Bush decides China is going down
19:04 BatSteve http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/end
19:05 Experimentonomen how do we know ww3 is not already ongoing ?
19:06 BatSteve See above:  BatSteve: I have a feeling that if we were in a world war, we would know that we were in a world war.
19:07 mashpriborintorg the story with the US drone captured by Iran may end pretty bad... but we're on the borderline for the controversial channel
19:09 iSasha So wait, Experimentonomen, why can't I use simple caps? It is only 12v
19:12 BatSteve I'm interested to know what happened with that drone.
19:12 BatSteve Apparently it wasn't shot down or forced down.
19:12 mashpriborintorg yeah it seems in really good condition, for a downed drone
19:12 iSasha They spoofed the GPS signal
19:13 mashpriborintorg and one strange thing, onto the photos you never see the bottom site, it's hidden by their flags ans stuff
19:13 mashpriborintorg they should to an equipment autopsy
19:13 mashpriborintorg ... sure they will do
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19:15 mashpriborintorg I wonder if North Korea would have been able to hack the drone
19:16 mashpriborintorg they are still at the technology level from 30 years backwards
19:17 iSasha Hey, you never know...
19:18 mashpriborintorg The freaky tihng is that Kim seems to be a fun and gentle man, compared to his son
19:21 BatSteve I wonder if, without a steady stream of competing ideas, all ideologies will eventually become controlling and authoritarian?
19:21 BatSteve It happened with Christianity....Communism....
19:22 BatSteve It might have happened with Islam, but I don't know enough about that to say one way or another
19:47 mashpriborintorg .log
19:47 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
19:48 mashpriborintorg not sure if i had lost connection or if the chat died
19:56 Cprossu I'd bet on the former
20:02 sndwrx BatSteve-Away: Some sources claim that Iran is blatantly stating they hacked the drone, and that they have no intent to return it.
20:03 wannabe-afk sounds....like iran....
20:03 * wannabe-afk has a christmas party next thurs night and NO CLUE what to bring AHHHHHHHH
20:04 dbshortwave to be honest if things pass the way they are passing and "some rights" are taken away
20:04 dbshortwave there will be a civil war
20:04 wannabe-afk yes
20:04 wannabe-afk http://tastykitchen.com/recipes/desserts/chocolate-peppermints/  this might work....
20:04 BotSteve Title: Chocolate Peppermints | Tasty Kitchen: A Happy Recipe Community!
20:04 mashpriborintorg An old oscilloscope maybe ? that's an unusual gift !
20:04 wannabe-afk desert and a side dish?
20:04 sndwrx you've been making Christmas cookies all week and you don't know what to take to a Christmas party?
20:05 wannabe-afk these cookies are not for me :D
20:05 wannabe-afk well, not all of them :P
20:05 wannabe-afk the "extras" are
20:05 sndwrx I don't imagine they are, but it seems like that may be a clue as to what to make...  :P
20:05 wannabe-afk i don't know....
20:05 wannabe-afk my sister is making fudge
20:06 wannabe-afk i signed up for a mystery dish, meaning noone (including me atm) knows what it will be
20:06 dbshortwave plate full of dog turds
20:06 wannabe-afk now i have to go get changed and get ready to go to GR to do work :/
20:06 dbshortwave lmao
20:06 * wannabe-afk slaps db
20:06 dbshortwave wait that would happen to me
20:07 dbshortwave XD
20:07 sndwrx http://imgur.com/EHqVB
20:07 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
20:07 sndwrx That's my computer at the moment.  :P
20:07 ajprog_laptop *db slaps wannabe-afk back
20:08 dbshortwave i think ajprog_laptop wants to see a slap fight
20:08 dbshortwave lol
20:08 dbshortwave i need to run
20:09 dbshortwave hi ho hi ho its off to E.SYR i go
20:09 dbshortwave bbl
20:11 wannabe-afk no, i think ajprog_laptop wants cookies
20:11 wannabe-afk your computer is pretty, but whats that white stuff, sndwrx?
20:11 sndwrx I want cookies.  I guarantee my display is the most festive out of anyone's here.  :P
20:12 sndwrx wannabe-afk: Something that I'm about to see for the first time in years.  :P
20:12 wannabe-afk but i don't want it...:/
20:13 sndwrx It's really obnox--fun, too.  The lights around the screen edge and on the tree all blink and blink and blink.
20:13 yNos back...
20:14 yNos what a day
20:14 sndwrx hey yNos
20:14 yNos hey there
20:14 yNos just got back, and it is time to go :D
20:14 yNos anything fun happen?
20:15 wannabe-afk ajprog_laptop....how long will you be at the lab?
20:16 wannabe-afk i don't have time to bring the cookies before my appt, but i do afterwards, around 5 or 5:30 or whatever....
20:18 sndwrx So, Burger King is giving away free fries today.
20:18 wannabe-afk mhm
20:18 sndwrx Apparently this is a promotion for their new fries.
20:19 sndwrx They don't seem any different to me, except they're actually fresh and had some salt on them for once.
20:19 yNos ajprog_laptop: there is a multi-port serial card and module we got in the last donation pile.. i know where the module is, now we need to find the card :(
20:19 yNos hmm
20:19 yNos i will stop by there and see what i can find.
20:19 yNos later
20:19 yNos later all
20:20 * yNos waves
20:20 wannabe-afk bye
20:20 sndwrx see ya yNos
20:20 wannabe-afk i'm bringing cookies by the lab later fyi
20:21 wannabe-afk and i have to go, bye
20:21 sndwrx bye wannabe-afk
20:38 * Cprossu messed yNos lol
20:38 Cprossu *missed
20:38 Cprossu damn.
20:38 Cprossu BotSteve: tell yNos when he gets the chance check out BAMA if you don't already know!
20:38 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
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20:39 Cprossu wow BotSteve responded so quickly I didn't even have my finger off the <Enter> button yet
20:39 Cprossu good job astro73|alice.
20:39 astro73|alice lol
20:40 astro73|alice yeah, i snuck in command prediction in the last patch
20:40 astro73|alice but in rare circumstances, the quantum probabilities confuse it, and it gets it wrong
20:40 astro73|alice but that only happened once.
20:41 astro73|alice the one time it randomly spat out the worst of 4chan when we had the elementary school tour group
20:44 Cprossu it happens
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20:44 iSasha Part
20:45 Cprossu btw what the fuck is up with all these people on the internet obsessed with my little pony things?
20:45 Cprossu it's starting to wear real thin.
20:45 iSasha Part = 5 $ motor, Bill of Materials = 99$ drill, 20$ drill bit kit, 10$ wrench, 2 hours of time....
20:46 Cprossu Breaking into fort knox because you're mcguver? priceless
20:46 Cprossu (sorry only thing I could think of unless you are building a makeshift cnc something or other?
20:47 masterofmonks Cprossu: as I understand it there is a new cartoon or something.
20:47 iSasha Not exactly... I was tearing out a motor from a blender, and I broke my drill, drill bit kit, and a wrench.
20:47 masterofmonks I know that speedrunner was into the cartoon.
20:48 Cprossu all I know is it's scaring me.
20:48 Cprossu @ masterofmonks
20:48 Cprossu iSasha RIP drill
20:48 iSasha It makes a horrible scratching noise and then produces magic smoke + horrible smell
20:49 Cprossu plug in style or batt operated?
20:49 Cprossu musta been a tough blender, eh iSasha?
20:49 astro73|alice gotta love how adwords shows me ads for sites i've already visited
20:50 iSasha Plug in style. Afaik part of the problem is that it was a really crappy drill
20:50 iSasha Cprossu: it still is a very tough blender. The drill bit is still stuck inside!
21:01 mashpriborintorg well, bed time, bye
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21:34 killawayZZzz night yall
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21:37 lwq-sleep hi
21:41 Ponko ahh what fun
21:45 lwq1996 i finally got a computer that can handle the awesomeness of portal without it lagging even, and that usually never happens
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21:59 Seroster PSA: When you pass the 2 cuts per second treshold your movie just becomes obnoxious.
21:59 Ponko lwq1996, he's thinking with portal. *thumbs up*
21:59 Ponko portals*
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22:01 Seroster And for fucks sake when you got a million dollar budget GET A FUCKING STEADICAM
22:01 Toastdude ...
22:01 Seroster Or duct tape the damn camera to a shopping cart
22:01 Seroster @ The Island
22:02 Toastdude Ah..
22:03 Seroster Seriously
22:03 Seroster When they run away from the evil dudes it's like jabbing a 2kw stroboscope in each eye while sitting on a spinning office chair
22:08 Experimentonomen huh?
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22:21 egrsteve &^%$%^&*(^%$#^ vista "anti virus"
22:21 egrsteve my own home how dare it
22:21 tgg|ajprog yNos, you in?
22:22 egrsteve hi jeff
22:22 tgg|ajprog hi egrsteve \
22:23 egrsteve not cool, how dare I virus make it into my house
22:23 egrsteve * A virus
22:25 Monkeh egrsteve: Epic fail. :D
22:27 tgg|ajprog HACKED!!!
22:27 tgg|ajprog HA HA HA!!!
22:27 tgg|ajprog Jeff is hacked
22:27 tgg|ajprog I'm not wearing pants!
22:28 tgg|ajprog I have a very fuzzy beard.
22:28 tgg|ajprog Fuzzy wuzzy was a bear. Fuzzy wuzzy had no hair!
22:28 tgg|ajprog .cookie
22:28 BotSteve Here you go, tgg|ajprog, I baked you a white chocolate cranberry cookie!
22:28 tgg|ajprog .skittles
22:28 BotSteve Here you go, tgg|ajprog, I got you some purple skittles!
22:28 tgg|ajprog Yay!
22:28 tgg|ajprog Hi steve!
22:29 tgg|ajprog Hi egrsteve!
22:29 Monkeh Dare I ask?
22:30 Cprossu hey guys
22:30 killawayZZzz joined #thegeekgroup
22:30 Cprossu I have a claim now.
22:30 Cprossu I just lifted up a car with my leatherman
22:30 Monkeh Dare I ask?
22:30 Monkeh er
22:30 Monkeh That was bad.
22:30 Monkeh As I was trying to say
22:31 Monkeh Cprossu: Hotwheels doesn't count.
22:31 Cprossu no it was a 1999 nissan sentra.
22:31 Monkeh What'd you do, drive over it? :P
22:31 Cprossu with an automatic transaxle and a GA16 engine
22:31 Cprossu nope
22:31 Cprossu lifted it up.
22:31 Cprossu my mother blew out her tire
22:31 Electricguy http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380523_10150481464994617_103137454616_8488395_1988305355_n.jpg
22:31 * Electricguy want!
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22:32 Monkeh Cprossu: .. too easy.
22:32 Cprossu and I went to get the scissorlift from the truck and I found it there but no iron, the crossbar in my car had her lug but didn't fir the fucking lift.
22:32 Cprossu *fit
22:33 Cprossu so I put my wave's pliers through the hole and 'lifted the car' with it
22:33 Monkeh Not too shabby.
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22:47 egrsteve cprossu, %$#& vista antivirus made it into my house, I'm not too happy about that
22:51 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
22:51 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe-afk 2.50 hours ago at 2011-12-16 20:21:07 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 22:51:13 UTC
22:51 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 4.35 hours ago at 2011-12-16 18:30:21 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
22:51 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw captn_obvious 27.45 hours ago at 2011-12-15 19:24:16 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
22:51 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw captnobvious 28.17 hours ago at 2011-12-15 18:41:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
22:51 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe-zz 33.77 hours ago at 2011-12-15 13:05:21 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
22:51 BotSteve lwq1996: (1 more)
22:55 egrsteve .seen *.*
22:55 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen *.* around.
22:56 lwq1996 .seen kyle
22:56 BotSteve He's about this tall?  Seen Kyle?
22:57 egrsteve .seen batsteve
22:57 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw BatSteve 3.86 hours ago at 2011-12-16 19:06:11 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 22:57:43 UTC
22:57 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw Farts-Mobile 137.01 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:57:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
22:57 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw BatSteve-Away 137.29 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:40:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
22:57 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw Bat-Mobile 137.33 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:37:44 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
22:58 egrsteve farts-mobile?
22:59 lwq1996 lol
23:01 egrsteve and I killed chat, sorry
23:02 Noise_Marine lol
23:02 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoIl58mIL4w BOOM
23:02 BotSteve Title: Super Bowl XXXI Fox Introduction - YouTube
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23:02 Seroster Hey folks
23:02 Seroster http://www.titaniumkay.com/Tungsten-Carbide-6mm-Brushed-Dome-Wedding-Band-Ring-P104047.html
23:02 BotSteve Title: Tungsten Carbide 6mm Brushed Dome Wedding Band Ring
23:02 Seroster The sizes
23:03 Seroster What is that in millimeter?
23:03 Seroster (under "buy"=
23:03 Ponko for the lady Seroster?
23:04 Seroster Just... What size should I pick for 20mm diameter?
23:05 Ponko well is it for the lady?
23:05 Seroster No its for my cock, what the fuck do you think man? =P
23:05 Ponko ;) lol
23:05 Seroster If it is american size 10.5 would work
23:06 Seroster Actually, it's for me.
23:06 Seroster Silver isnt durable enough, I need a new ring that is a bit more scratch proof
23:06 lwq1996 im bored
23:08 masterofmonks .seen toastdude
23:08 BotSteve masterofmonks: I last saw Toastdude 1.10 hours ago at 2011-12-16 22:02:34 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:08:43 UTC
23:08 BotSteve masterofmonks: I last saw AgCNO6 42.10 hours ago at 2011-12-15 05:02:30 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
23:08 Ponko o_O
23:09 Cprossu .seen s
23:09 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen s around.
23:09 Cprossu ooooh test time
23:09 Cprossu .seen AgCN06
23:09 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen AgCN06 around.
23:09 Cprossu .seen AgCNO6
23:09 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw Toastdude 1.12 hours ago at 2011-12-16 22:02:34 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:09:46 UTC
23:09 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw AgCNO6 42.12 hours ago at 2011-12-15 05:02:30 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
23:09 Cprossu .seen agCNO6
23:09 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw Toastdude 1.12 hours ago at 2011-12-16 22:02:34 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:09:51 UTC
23:09 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw AgCNO6 42.12 hours ago at 2011-12-15 05:02:30 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
23:09 Cprossu nice
23:10 Ponko Seroster O_O WHAT THE FUCK
23:10 Experimentonomen now stop abusing the bot
23:10 Ponko oh crap sorry Sero leave that out
23:10 Ponko was typing then yeah dw lol
23:10 masterofmonks Seroster: tungsten carbide.
23:10 Seroster NO SHIT SHERLOCK
23:10 Ponko he want's to know what 10.5 in mm
23:11 Seroster nO
23:11 Experimentonomen masterofmonks, aint that whats used in cutting inserts for like lathe tools ?
23:11 Seroster I want to know what 20mm is in american fucktard ring gauge
23:11 Seroster Yes, it is, Experimentonomen.
23:11 Seroster They also make rings from it.
23:11 Seroster http://www.titaniumkay.com/Tungsten-Carbide-6mm-Brushed-Dome-Wedding-Band-Ring-P104047.html
23:11 BotSteve Title: Tungsten Carbide 6mm Brushed Dome Wedding Band Ring
23:11 masterofmonks Fucking awesome rings.
23:11 Seroster Indeed sir
23:11 Seroster Im tired of this silver
23:11 Experimentonomen arent they kinda brittle and/or fragile though ?
23:11 Seroster Depends on the binder
23:12 Ponko well if you know what 10.5 is you'll know what everything else will be
23:12 Seroster ...Never underestimate imperial stupidity ponko.
23:12 Experimentonomen one inch = 2.54 centimeters, do the mathg :P
23:12 Seroster ...
23:12 Ponko sigh this is true Seroster
23:12 Seroster I DO NOT WANT A 25 CM RING
23:12 Seroster Its a RING, for my FINGER, not a god damn necklace xD
23:13 Experimentonomen my subwoofer is 25cm :P
23:13 Electricguy bedtime now! night night all :)
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23:14 masterofmonks http://www.celtarts.com/ring_size.htm
23:14 BotSteve Title: Ring Size Conversion Chart
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23:16 Seroster They aint got 10.25 on WCrings, .5 will do.
23:17 masterofmonks Seroster: are you proposing?
23:17 Seroster I aint
23:19 Ponko he already has
23:19 masterofmonks Might I suggest mossanite for a stone?
23:20 * Guest74681 gave cookies to ajprog_laptop at the lab
23:20 masterofmonks is Guest74681 a wannabe?
23:20 Guest74681 wtf
23:20 Guest74681 it wont let me change
23:20 Guest74681 "wannabe1987 Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable
23:20 Guest74681 -"
23:21 Ponko fail
23:21 Guest74681 yes, its wannabe
23:21 Guest74681 but wtf
23:21 wannabe1988 nick/channel still unavail.
23:22 wannabe1988 what did i do wrong?
23:22 wannabe1988 says i failed to idenitfy in time, but i identified (or MIRC did it for me) in the same minute
23:22 wannabe1988 FAIL
23:23 Ponko lol
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23:24 BotSteve Master. *bows*
23:24 wannabe1988 hi astro
23:24 wannabe1988 my computer won't let me identify :/
23:26 wannabe1988 brb
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23:26 Seroster .c 65*7
23:26 BotSteve 455
23:26 kellyEv hm
23:26 kellyEv still unavailable
23:26 kellyEv how do i fix my nick?
23:26 Seroster erm
23:26 Seroster How do you mean?
23:26 Seroster /nick xxxxx
23:27 Seroster Or you /ghost nick pass
23:27 Seroster .c 53^7
23:27 BotSteve 1 174 711 139 837
23:27 kellyEv Seroster, you can't ghost something thats not in use
23:28 egrsteve you have a stuck nick?
23:28 Seroster If it is stuck ghost it
23:28 Seroster or
23:28 Seroster You can /release nick pass
23:29 kellyEv can't release, its not in use
23:29 kellyEv but i can't switch to it either
23:29 Seroster Wich nick?
23:29 kellyEv i put the "identify in 30 seconds" dealie on it
23:29 kellyEv wannabe1987
23:29 Seroster Right
23:29 Seroster Then you have to release it
23:29 kellyEv and apparently nickserv didn't identify it in 30 seconds
23:29 kellyEv and now its not letting me switch
23:29 Seroster If you do not identify withing 30 secs it gets locked
23:30 Seroster Then nobody can take the nick until you release it.
23:30 kellyEv *release* wannabe1987 ********
23:30 kellyEv -
23:30 kellyEv release No such nick/channel
23:30 kellyEv -
23:30 kellyEv thats what i got when i /msg release nick pass
23:30 egrsteve try ghost
23:30 Seroster /msg NickServ RELEASE smith sesame
23:31 Seroster odd.
23:31 Seroster It SHOULD work.
23:31 Seroster I suggest you try your luck in #freenode
23:31 egrsteve msg /nickserv help
23:32 kellyEv tried ghost
23:32 egrsteve try /msg nickserv help
23:32 kellyEv will do in a sec
23:32 egrsteve see if any commands there will work
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23:33 BotSteve TOASTY!
23:33 kellyEv hi Toastdude
23:34 kellyEv the grate in the bottom of the dishwasher - the part i need is under it....does anyone know how to get the grate off w/o dismantling the ENTIRE dishwasher?
23:35 Experimentonomen lay it on its side and get it from underneath ? :P
23:35 Toastdude Hi Kelly
23:36 kellyEv its loaded.  NO
23:36 kellyEv bye mom
23:36 masterofmonks joined #thegeekgroup
23:37 kellyEv hi mom
23:37 masterofmonks Thanks.
23:37 eadthem joined #thegeekgroup
23:38 eadthem ok i have a NIST calabrated thermometer
23:38 eadthem when it was calabrated at 0C it read -.3 c  when calabrated at 100C it read 99.4C
23:38 eadthem so if im trying to mesure 50C
23:39 eadthem then it shuld read 49.55C right
23:39 eadthem -.3 at 0  -.6 at 100
23:39 eadthem at 50 it would be .45
23:39 eadthem is my math correct
23:40 astro73|alice joined #thegeekgroup
23:41 egrsteve assuming the error is linear
23:41 eadthem true
23:41 eadthem its PT100
23:41 wannabe1987 w00t
23:41 eadthem well tbh i dont know what this is   its a standards thermometer so i would assume its not a thermocouple
23:43 wannabe1987 hey look
23:43 wannabe1987 i fixed it
23:43 wannabe1987 somehow
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23:47 * wannabe1987 needs an extendable magnet
23:47 lwq1996 why?
23:48 Ponko apparently Ryanair are going to screen porn on flights
23:48 lwq1996 why?
23:48 Ponko lwq1996: you want me to punch you
23:49 Seroster PONKO
23:49 wannabe1987 because i dropped something in a grate....
23:49 lwq1996 what is ryan air?
23:49 Seroster #TGG:NSFW
23:49 Seroster lwq1996... It aint flatulence.
23:49 wannabe1987 apparently an airline....DUH
23:49 Toastdude Ponko's airplane company
23:49 Ponko no
23:49 lwq1996 lol
23:50 Toastdude Oh, different Ryan..
23:50 Ponko i wouldn't be as stingy
23:51 * masterofmonks pokes wannabe1987, lwq1996
23:52 Ponko but i wasn't saying what TYPES they are showing but the decision by a 'major' airline
23:53 Ponko the TYPES they should show is up discusion in NSFW
23:53 Ponko up for*
23:54 lwq1996 im gonna go play nuclear dawn now :P
23:55 wannabe1987 k
23:55 * Toastdude is shocking himself with a homemade lyden jar :D
23:55 * Ponko sighs
23:55 Ponko kids
23:56 Toastdude Hey, Lee was shocking himself with a transformer...
23:56 Ponko well it was a response to what both of you said
23:57 Toastdude Ah
23:57 Ponko but the comment still stands
23:58 Toastdude At least I'm doing small damage rather than a 60Hz jolt...

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