Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-18

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00:00 Sgt_Lemming 30 G-rated locations :-P
00:00 Seroster lol
00:00 wannabe-afk awwww
00:00 wannabe1987 they have to be G rated? :P
00:01 Seroster At least not overly xxx
00:02 Seroster "You left it at the stripclub" is probably ok
00:02 * dbshortwave growls
00:03 * BatSteve growls back and then pees on a fire hydrant
00:04 * wannabe1987 hands out dog cookies
00:13 * SparkyProjects wonders why we are seeing the weathercam and not HV, wasn't there supposed to be something happpening ?
00:16 wannabe1987 who knows
00:16 ajprog_laptop at the end of this post it talks about the baluns they need.
00:16 ajprog_laptop because they are now working outside not in the room
00:21 masterofmonks So three observations.
00:22 masterofmonks One, I can see jupiter and five of it's moons from my back yard.
00:22 masterofmonks Two, I need to tune my tripod up.
00:23 Toastdude Five?? I can only see four...
00:23 Toastdude The main ones
00:23 masterofmonks Three, my cats are fucking annoying.
00:23 masterofmonks "Ah, there we are, got it in focu..*cat bumps tripod*
00:24 masterofmonks Toastdude: I have a little larger telescope than most.
00:24 Toastdude Oh, how large?
00:24 masterofmonks Second.
00:25 Toastdude Second?
00:26 wannabe1987 i'm gonnnnna go hang out later :D
00:27 ajprog_laptop have fun
00:27 masterofmonks Toastdude:
00:27 Toastdude Bye wannabe1987
00:27 ajprog_laptop don't get into any trouble
00:27 masterofmonks http://astronomicaluplands.blogspot.com/2009/09/meade-4504-newtonian-telescope.html
00:27 BotSteve Title: Astronomical Uplands: The Meade 4504 Newtonian telescope
00:28 masterofmonks Now, mine doesn't have the drive controller...
00:28 wannabe1987 trouble?  id on't even know what i'm doing/where we're going yet
00:28 masterofmonks And I had to steal my eye piece from a smaller meade telescope...
00:28 Toastdude Hello Isaiah
00:29 masterofmonks So I basically pointed it at the birghtest damn thing in the sky and realized after getting it into focus it was jupiter and five orbital bodies.
00:29 Toastdude Wow, 114mm
00:30 masterofmonks Actually I hear that it's not really worth the price because you can buy better ones for what this one costs, however I got mine for free.
00:30 Toastdude I have a 76mm refracting telescope
00:31 Toastdude Are reflecting better?
00:31 Toastdude That was free??
00:31 masterofmonks Well....
00:31 masterofmonks Someone was throwing it away.
00:31 Toastdude Ah
00:32 masterofmonks Most optical telescopes are reflecting because it's easier to make a one sided mirror than a two sided lens.
00:32 Photon939 that and diffraction limits
00:32 masterofmonks Toastdude: you like astronomy?
00:33 Toastdude Yes, very much so
00:33 Toastdude Although I need a better telescope than mine..
00:33 Photon939 you also get things like chromatic abberation with lenses
00:33 masterofmonks http://www.astronomycast.com/
00:33 BotSteve Title: Astronomy Cast
00:33 masterofmonks My recomendation is to start at the beginning and listen to all of them.
00:33 Monkeh Cprossu: Fancy an image which makes a fantastic looking screensaver on a Kindle?
00:33 Toastdude Wow, danke!
00:34 masterofmonks Also I think that Khan Academy may have a course on astronomy.
00:35 Toastdude I haven't looked much on their astronomy section... Mostly physics
00:35 masterofmonks And you should also be able to find the lectures from bearkley on astronomy also.
00:35 Monkeh sndwrx: You said you're working at a library using Kindles, right?
00:36 Toastdude Are you subscribed to DeepSkyVideos, MoM?
00:36 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe
00:37 lwq1996 >:(
00:37 lwq1996 how rude
00:37 Toastdude You killed wannabe!
00:37 masterofmonks Toastdude: taht and just about every other UofNottingham channel.
00:37 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
00:37 wannabe1987 someone explain why mirc has a disconnect button?!  and why its prominantly displayed
00:37 wannabe1987 fuckker
00:37 wannabe1987 hi lwq1996
00:37 * wannabe1987 needs another bandaid, brb
00:37 Monkeh CaptainBoden: There are three pairs of baluns on their way from me, but they'll probably be a while this time of year.
00:37 masterofmonks wannabe1987: because it's not X-chat, and doesn't make sense?
00:38 lwq1996 masterofmonks you are one mean bastard
00:38 wannabe1987 ok
00:38 Toastdude Haha, I'm only subbed to DeepSkyVideos, PeriodicVideos, and SixtySymbols
00:38 wannabe1987 there
00:38 wannabe1987 finger is better
00:38 masterofmonks lwq1996: what makes me so?
00:38 lwq1996 actually monkeh they may get there earlier than usuall
00:38 wannabe1987 i'm going to hobby lobby, meijer and best buy w/ greg k :D
00:38 lwq1996 wannabe do i kill this chat?
00:39 wannabe1987 no, i was clicking over from a nother window and i hit the wrong button :/
00:39 Monkeh lwq1996: Only if your postal system is as backwards as it seems.
00:41 lwq1996 well maby it may have some time getting over the ocean but things in the state usually arive in a week tops where i live
00:42 Monkeh lwq1996: You may recall that I live in a country small enough for same-day shipments to be practical without using aircraft.
00:42 Monkeh lwq1996: As such, a week is a huge amount of time.
00:43 tonsofpcs yyawn
00:44 tonsofpcs Monkeh: I do too, but they cost a lot of $$$$
00:44 tonsofpcs omg, CaptainBoden is on irc!  Hi Chris!
00:44 wannabe1987 lol i think he's afk
00:44 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Odd, last I checked America is one big damn country.
00:45 tonsofpcs Monkeh: well, ignoring alaska and hawaii
00:45 Monkeh So unless you're using a supersonic car (which we make.), you'd need planes.
00:46 * wannabe1987 watches CB while waiting for friend to get here
00:46 tonsofpcs (ok, so it's roughly 2 days by land to go ocean to ocean)
00:47 tonsofpcs anyway, a shipment from here to a place a 2 hour drive away still goes on an aircraft (depending on the shipping company)
00:47 Monkeh tonsofpcs: No wonder it's so expensive over there.
00:47 masterofmonks Toastdude: check your notices.
00:47 wannabe1987 oh, mom, i can't play tonight....maybe monday night?
00:47 Toastdude Whoops
00:48 tonsofpcs Monkeh: well, a lot of the major shippers' strategy is "ship everything to a core distribution center ASAP then sort and send it back out"
00:48 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yeah, we do that too.
00:48 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Except ours are only a few hours from anywhere.
00:48 tonsofpcs right.
00:49 Monkeh Nearest one for me is.. about a 30 minute drive if traffic's good
00:49 Monkeh Gets sorted there into each area then distributed to smaller offices (and that one's five minutes away, by foot)
00:49 tonsofpcs and where I live, there's so few people that there's no core distribution center nearby (they have a smaller distribution center for each FedEx and UPS, but anything not going to the immediate area goes to an adjacent area and then from there goes to a core distibution facility)
00:49 wannabe1987 you live in a smalllll country.  doesn't it take less than 24 hrs to drive from the scotland/england border to the english channel?
00:50 Monkeh wannabe1987: Depends if you want to do it legally or not.
00:50 wannabe1987 lol
00:50 wannabe1987 preferably legally
00:50 Monkeh Then only if you have more than two seats. :P
00:50 ajprog_laptop what is the fun in that ;)
00:50 tonsofpcs google maps says 11 hours, 8 minutes
00:50 tonsofpcs that's shorter than the drive from here to Grand Raids
00:50 wannabe1987 i'm just trying to see if our driver graeme was right
00:50 wannabe1987 lol
00:51 masterofmonks .c 1200mm to inches
00:51 BotSteve 47.2440945 inches
00:51 tonsofpcs oh, sorry, that's from the middle of scotlannd
00:51 BatSteve and I'm back
00:51 Monkeh masterofmonks: Man, that was a lot of extra typing. :P
00:51 wannabe1987 w00t
00:51 BatSteve one of my ceiling lights just decided to disconnect itself from it's mounting base
00:51 BatSteve I did not know that could happen
00:51 Monkeh BatSteve: Quality.
00:51 tonsofpcs BatSteve: interesting.  Hanging by a cord?
00:51 wannabe1987 odd
00:51 masterofmonks Monkeh: How so?
00:51 BatSteve tonsofpcs: well, it is now that it's not attached to the ceiling anymore
00:52 BatSteve (:
00:52 Monkeh masterofmonks: 1200mm. 1.2m. ;)
00:52 tonsofpcs this reminds me yet again, I need to call the landlord to get my bedroom ceiling lamp fixed
00:52 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Oh, just fix it yourself
00:53 wannabe1987 unless the landlord frowns upon that
00:53 wannabe1987 and i'm going to pack up....i'll be back later :D
00:53 Monkeh wannabe1987: Who says he has to know?
00:53 masterofmonks Monkeh: Sure, but I liked it better that way.
00:53 wannabe1987 if you've made a complaint and then its fixed....
00:53 tonsofpcs Monkeh: I'm not a certified electrician and I'm not employed by the landlord, It's so @$^*@($* up that I don't dare put myself in a place of liability for it.
00:54 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I am also not a certified electrician, but you'll see a LOT of stuff in this house I've put right after 'certified electricians' touched it..
00:54 tonsofpcs +there's a wire nut on some solid core wire inside the switch's double-gang box, one of the pieces is bare about 1/4" out of the wirenut
00:54 tonsofpcs Monkeh: right, if I were sure that I could fix it easily, I'd do it.  Just the parts that I can see easily are really bad...
00:55 Monkeh tonsofpcs: What's wrong with it?
00:56 tonsofpcs Monkeh: turn switch on, three posibilities (with nothing I can correlate to them):  lamp on; lamp off; lamp flickering.  With switch on, it will randomly decide to change between these states.  With switch on, wiggling the bulb sometimes causes a change between states.
00:56 SparkyProjects In the UK you are permitted to change like for like if you are a 'competent person'
00:57 tonsofpcs well, the wiring goes through the wall and ceiling and I really don't want to deal with that (or tearing apart the ceiling fan fixture to get at the wires that run through it)
00:57 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Okay, so you've probably got a bad lampholder
00:58 Monkeh Or a poor connection on the lampholder
00:58 tonsofpcs Monkeh: visual inspection of the lamp holder checks out.  Visual inspection of what I can see around it checks out.
00:58 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Visual inspection is insufficient.
00:58 tonsofpcs voltage probe checks out.
00:59 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Just because there's power on the contacts doesn't mean the lamp is making contact.
00:59 tonsofpcs right, that's what the visual inspection was for.
00:59 tonsofpcs again, it's so poorly put together that I don't want to put myself in a place of liability by taking it apart (note should be taken that my landlord is a lawyer)
00:59 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Also, under load the temperature can cause what appears to be a good connection to come loose.
00:59 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs: you have edison screw bulbs ?
00:59 SparkyProjects Often the contacts get out of adjustment, you just need to pull them out a little in most cases so they make better contact
00:59 SparkyProjects sometimes the solder on the base of the bulb is too flat
01:00 Monkeh Especially at the lampholder, but a bad connection anywhere else will also heat and fail
01:00 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: again, lampholder checks out.  I'm pretty sure it's something inside the ceiling fan assembly
01:00 Monkeh (never underestimate how hot a slightly loose screw can get)
01:01 SparkyProjects Yeah, often the holder can look ok, but due to heat the connections can bend away
01:02 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Bayonet ftw. Less easily damaged. :)
01:02 tonsofpcs Monkeh: you'd be surprised.
01:02 SparkyProjects You'd be surprised, often the 'hooks' can break, unless they are metal
01:03 sndwrx tonsofpcs: You're renting from an attorney landlord?
01:03 Monkeh Compared to a screw fitting where people consistently overtightening can damage the contact
01:03 SparkyProjects Industrial holders are nearly always ES
01:03 tonsofpcs (part of my job is repairing fixtures that hold high power lamps)
01:03 Monkeh A bayonet fitting only allows the lamp in so far.
01:03 tonsofpcs Monkeh: that doesn't stop people from pushing and bending the bayonet receptacle
01:03 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs: 500w GES lamps ?
01:04 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: everything from 150W to 2kW, I don't know all of the TLAs.  I know we have a bunch of EGTs.
01:04 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Hey, at least they're not as fragile as halogen holders.
01:05 SparkyProjects Never liked halogen holders
01:05 tonsofpcs what do you mean by 'halogen holder' ?
01:05 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I'm not sure what's worse, the heat or the fragile assembly..
01:05 SparkyProjects Most often the end of the tubbe would break when they fail
01:05 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Linear halogen lamp fittings.
01:05 Monkeh tonsofpcs: R7S for example.
01:06 tonsofpcs *looks for a picture*
01:06 Monkeh tonsofpcs: They take these: http://www.bulbman.com/images/t3r7s190.jpg
01:07 tonsofpcs unless it's a headlight lamp with a hubbel twistlock, google fails at finding a picture
01:07 Monkeh tonsofpcs: See picture.
01:07 SparkyProjects http://www.nationallampsandcomponents.co.uk/froogle.php/Linear_Tungsten_Halogen_R7s_Lamp_Holder/279
01:07 SparkyProjects Changed a few of those in the past
01:07 BotSteve Title: Linear Tungsten Halogen R7s Lamp Holder
01:07 tonsofpcs Monkeh: I've not had any issue with fittings for those types of lamps.
01:07 Monkeh And Sparky found the actual holder.
01:07 tonsofpcs (other than a bulb breaking inside and expanding, getting it stuck inside)
01:07 Monkeh That one's somewhat nicer than the type I normally see.
01:08 Monkeh Then again, that's as expensive as the entire unit in a lot of places, so yeah.
01:08 Monkeh SparkyProjects: You want a bad smell? Drip some PVA onto the glass.
01:08 Monkeh You'll smell that for a while.
01:09 tonsofpcs http://www.norcostco.com/sourcefourlampsocket.aspx are fun.
01:09 BotSteve Title: Source Four Lamp Socket
01:09 Cprossu Monkeh I have nightmares about burning PVA
01:09 Cprossu sometimes I still think I smell it
01:09 SparkyProjects Depends on the unit, we had to have some good ones because they were installed in barns with straw etc, plus animals
01:09 Monkeh Cprossu: Not a nice smell is it?
01:09 Cprossu you'll never forget it
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01:10 Cprossu almost like grease traps at restaurants
01:10 tonsofpcs (holds a HPL575)
01:10 Cprossu and other horrible things that punch you in the face
01:10 tonsofpcs the original sourcefour fixtures (which can take 750W lamps also) just had that socket holding the lamp in.  Later fixtures added a spring-clip retainer to prevent it from wobbling loose
01:11 SparkyProjects Cprossu, you don't ever want to smell formaldehyde, stings the nose and makes your eyes water, plus the smell
01:11 Cprossu Already have SparkyProjects
01:11 tonsofpcs who hasn't smelled it?
01:11 NeWtoz I use it to stay young
01:11 tonsofpcs lol
01:11 masterofmonks It's nothign lke butyric acid.
01:11 Cprossu I will say preserved pig in formaldehyde has a distincive badness to it
01:12 SparkyProjects We used it to get rid of insects in some of the buildings.
01:12 masterofmonks nothing like*
01:12 Cprossu I'm happy I never have smelled butyric.
01:12 masterofmonks Once you smell that.... nothing smells as bad.
01:12 tonsofpcs Monkeh, SparkyProjects: the kliegl scoops at TGG probably have those 'linear halogen' sockets
01:13 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I take it you don't come across them all that often?
01:13 SparkyProjects The security lights they put up were r7s
01:13 tonsofpcs Monkeh: come across what?
01:14 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Linear halogens.
01:14 tonsofpcs Probably 50-60% of our stage fixtures are that type.
01:14 tonsofpcs FHM or EJGs
01:14 Monkeh Okay, so you just don't come across the name often then. :P
01:15 tonsofpcs right :)
01:15 Monkeh Can't step out the front door without seeing the things here
01:15 Monkeh They're everywhere, and everyone uses the cheap fittings
01:15 Photon939 heh
01:15 Monkeh I'm not sure which decision is worse really
01:15 Monkeh People who buy them to put them outside uncovered
01:16 Monkeh Or people who buy the fittings and then put CFLs in them outside.
01:16 tonsofpcs they sell CFLs for that fitting???
01:16 Monkeh Halogen lamps suffer horribly from thermal shock with PIRs and CFLs just won't WORK properly in the cold, especially on a PIR.
01:16 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yes.
01:16 tonsofpcs I don't think I've ever seen that fitting in a residential space...
01:17 Monkeh tonsofpcs: If they can actually get up to temperature they work fairly well but they're a horrible idea outside.
01:17 Cprossu I can totally get away with using them here @ Monkeh hahahaha
01:17 Monkeh tonsofpcs: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/Products/size_3/TLTHF2.JPG
01:17 tonsofpcs most CFLs don't work properly... I mean, people buy them to replace 'bullbs' but really they're replacing the whole system every time and they don't invest properly....
01:18 tonsofpcs Monkeh: that's a residential fixture?
01:18 Seroster CFLs suck.
01:18 Monkeh tonsofpcs: These things are sold by the millions and fitted outside with PIRs by everyone and their dog without realising 500W of halogen lighting is worthless if not used properly.
01:18 tonsofpcs what Seroster said.
01:18 Seroster the LED bulbs of today suck.
01:18 Monkeh tonsofpcs: It's a general fixture.
01:18 Monkeh CFLs can be useful, but..
01:18 Cprossu we used to have a halogen light
01:18 Monkeh I miss my 100W incandescent in here.
01:18 Cprossu it was recalled because 'it could tip over and create a fire'
01:18 Seroster Call me when someone has developed a lightbulb that gives me 800lumen at <3000k that lights up instantly.
01:18 tonsofpcs Monkeh: put it back?
01:18 Monkeh This 18W CFL leaves shadows everywhere
01:18 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Can't buy them.
01:19 Cprossu http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/21aZEZr7H6L._SL500_AA300_.jpg
01:19 Cprossu ^ it looked exactly like this
01:19 tonsofpcs Monkeh: replace it with a 100W heat ball?
01:19 Monkeh tonsofpcs: If I could find one at a sane price.
01:19 Seroster I checked for replacement of my 50w halogen ceiling spotlights, the best LED I could find were half the light.
01:19 Cprossu led's suck ass
01:19 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Which you can't, because they're imported in small quantities. And they're unreliable.
01:19 tonsofpcs http://heatball.de/en/ :D << <3 this guy
01:19 BotSteve Title: Heatball :: Home
01:20 Seroster Nah, they just aint developed to their full potential
01:20 Seroster Better LEDs will come
01:20 tonsofpcs 800 lumen at < 300k....
01:20 tonsofpcs *3000K
01:20 Seroster tonsofpcs, A 60w tungsten lamp fills those requirements
01:21 Seroster Low frequency fluorecent tubes give me a migraine, and so does white or blue light.
01:21 Monkeh I think I'll just replace the entire fitting
01:21 Seroster Hrm
01:21 Monkeh A nice twin 6ft HF fluorescent will be ideal.
01:22 tonsofpcs Seroster: tungsten is ~3200K
01:22 Photon939 low pressure sodium >_>
01:22 Photon939 although they're not totally instant on
01:23 Monkeh You want instant on, fit an electronic starter to a fluorescent tube.
01:23 SparkyProjects I still have a few incandescents, but if i HAVE to change, i'll be using halogen spots or going for a proper fluorescent
01:23 Monkeh Just pay no attention to the noise.
01:23 Monkeh I'm sure SparkyProjects knows of the noise.
01:24 Seroster tonsofpcs, "lower color temperatures (2,700–3,000 K) are called warm colors (yellowish white through red).[1]"
01:24 tonsofpcs grr @ fluorescent noise
01:24 Seroster Numbers in clamps means it is true!  [4]
01:24 tonsofpcs Seroster: lol [5]
01:24 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Electronic starters are quite different sounding. :)
01:24 Seroster As for the exact temperature of an incadecent "2,700–3,300 K Incandescent light bulb"
01:24 tonsofpcs Monkeh: extraneous RFI is bad.
01:25 SparkyProjects Electronic starters are not really instant on, they hold the 'switch' closed for a second to allow the heaters to warm up before striking, that way you don't get the flicker
01:25 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yeah but they warm the tubes in my shed up real quick. :)
01:25 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Different type of starter to what I use.
01:25 tonsofpcs Monkeh: and they make your neighbor call me and complain that they can no longer get the TV station and we have to fix it for them
01:25 Photon939 instant electronic starters kick the bulb in the pants and run it in a cold cathode type operation
01:26 Monkeh SparkyProjects: The ones I use strike an arc at very, very high voltage repeatedly to warm the tube.
01:26 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Doesn't affect the TV, radio, or wifi. I've tested that.
01:26 * Cprossu * AHEM * 'tunes voice to 120hz' bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmz
01:26 Seroster SparkyProjects, the "bink bink b-bink!" of old fluorecent tubes is the only reason I like them.... =P
01:26 Monkeh Cprossu: Nope, that's not the noise. ;)
01:26 SparkyProjects Ah, that's different, so not the 'replacement' starters, more like the internal box type
01:27 Monkeh Seroster: Imagine that noise going off about 50 times in the space of a second.
01:27 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Nope, they're replacement starters.
01:27 Seroster monkeh Guess why they are called starters... They only operate when starting the ft
01:27 Monkeh Seroster: I know that.
01:27 SparkyProjects Then they operate as i described.
01:27 SparkyProjects I've fitted boxfulls
01:27 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Want a video of mine?
01:28 Cprossu yay radioactive flourescant fixture parts?!
01:28 Cprossu *scent
01:28 SparkyProjects nah, it's ok, we'll probably agree to disagree
01:28 Cprossu I forgot what gas they have in them though
01:28 Photon939 polonium sparkplugs
01:28 Photon939 http://www.orau.org/ptp/collection/consumer%20products/sparkplugs2.jpg
01:29 tonsofpcs Monkeh: bullshit.
01:29 tonsofpcs Monkeh: turn off all of your fluorescent fixtures, start listening to shortwave, then go turn them all on.
01:30 tonsofpcs or heck, even medium wave
01:31 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Never interrupted mine.
01:32 tonsofpcs Monkeh: listen to a station from a bit further away....
01:32 Monkeh Kinda hard, all the transmitters I'd bother to use are line of sight from here.
01:34 tonsofpcs how is that hard? just because you haven't checked it doesn't mean it's hard to cheeck.
01:35 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Hard to check because I'm not going to go dig out an analogue radio (I use them once upon a blue moon in the last, oh, five years) and tune it into something at nearly 2am.
01:36 tonsofpcs Monkeh: you don't need to test it now... oh, and also remember that propogation is different day, night, and sunrise/sunset
01:36 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I'm aware of that. I'm not going to put on my to-do list to experience for myself the effect of radio interference (which I am familiar with).
01:36 Monkeh However, I can state quite clearly that none of my fluorescent fittings interfere with normal TV or my normal radio usage in this house.
01:37 tonsofpcs right, but they could be screwing with neighbors
01:37 Monkeh Well the neighbours screw with me, so..
01:37 Monkeh I have constant power issues due to someone on this supply having a fucked up compressor
01:39 masterofmonks Cprossu: http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/ngevx/ok_maybe_im_missing_something_but_what_the_fuck/
01:39 BotSteve Title: Ok, maybe I'm missing something, but what the fuck is the obsession with My Little Pony? : AskReddit
01:40 Seroster "My skull was fractured, my cheeks were fractured, my jaw was fractured, all my fingers in my left hand were fractured, my right leg was fractured, my left leg was fractured and both my feet got fractures too. Other than that I was fine.... Oh, and I had hypthermia too!"
01:40 Seroster That's the ULTIMATE glass half full guy
01:42 Monkeh SparkyProjects: www.youtu.be/IWtqYXoxPE8
01:43 SparkyProjects Yep, that's how ours started
01:43 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Perhaps it's just a shorter delay but there's certainly not a second in that.
01:43 Monkeh Just strikes one hell of an arc.
01:43 Monkeh Not a nice noise though
01:43 Monkeh Need to go HF.
01:44 Cprossu lol looking @ masterofmonks
01:44 Monkeh Definitely better than normal starters though
01:44 SparkyProjects It would be like removing the starter and connecting the wires together for a bit.
01:44 SparkyProjects And when i said a secnd, don't take that too literally :P
01:44 Monkeh I'll take that noise over pressing the switch and then waiting 15 seconds to be able to see any day
01:44 Monkeh (note: 15 seconds is obviously fairly extreme, I REALLY need to replace the ballast in that one fitting)
01:45 Monkeh It's 30 years old and really, really doesn't like life.
01:45 SparkyProjects Me too, though i would go for electronic ballasts anyway, dimmable ones in the lounge.
01:45 Monkeh SparkyProjects: They're pretty damn instant, though. And they make such a difference outside.
01:45 Monkeh SparkyProjects: No waiting for them to finally strike and then warm up properly, they're just.. on.
01:46 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Still deciding what to do with the lounge for lighting, it just has pendants in there for now.
01:46 SparkyProjects You should hear a whole room full of them start up (20 in a bank)
01:46 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Twin 18W CFLs aren't really good enough though
01:47 Monkeh Wondering if I can find a fitting like the one on the underside of the ceiling fan in the conservatory
01:47 Monkeh Takes a 100W linear halogen, lovely light and dimmable (although obviously that's not good for the lifetime of the lamp)
01:47 Monkeh I don't tend to buy into the energy saving crap
01:47 SparkyProjects For general lighting in the lounge of my old place i had LED decking lights (10 of them), though you could go for small halogen spots (25w each)
01:48 Monkeh All the lights in this house 24/7, plus the rest of the residential properties in this _town_, make up less than the day's usage of the injection moulding factory up the road.
01:48 Monkeh Obviously wasting energy is bad but I don't consider getting an acceptable, reliable light source a waste.
01:49 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I refuse to use halogen spots for room lighting in anything larger than a small bathroom.
01:49 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Horrible fittings, horrible lamp life, hot as all hell.
01:50 SparkyProjects What i don't get is that we are supposed to save the planet with cfl's, but then you have all the chemicals involved, the circuit boards etc, that all has to be recycled, that means more transport and processing,  so how are we saving the planet ?
01:50 Monkeh (which is a feature in the bathroom, actually)
01:50 Monkeh SparkyProjects: We're not. We're just saving a small amount of electricity.
01:50 Seroster Best kitty toy EVER? A toilet paper roll, pinched in one end, with food inside. They have been trying to get it out for a good half an hour now
01:50 Monkeh Which is a tiny drop in the ocean compared to commercial and industrial usage.
01:50 SparkyProjects Yeah, but processing needs another factory, that's more electricity :P
01:51 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: what's worse I have seen first hand exactly how flourescent bulbs are treated EOL, trust me it's not good for the environment.
01:51 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Ever walked past an empty store with a couple of kilowatts of lights on, selling CFLs, and just had to laugh?
01:51 SparkyProjects yep
01:51 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: no, not at all.  The manufacturing process isn't either.
01:52 Monkeh SparkyProjects: You get dumb looks when you ask the manager how much electricity he thinks selling those will save compared to him fitting some more suitable lights and switching half of them off during daylight (it's amazing just how much gets in even without many windows)
01:52 masterofmonks Now I happend to buy CFLs simplly because I am lazy and they last a long time compared to incandecent. Doesn't mean that I won't however use incandecent where they are better.
01:52 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Funny thing is, they don't even make any money selling these things for 9p each.
01:53 Monkeh masterofmonks: Oh, they're great if you don't need working light.
01:53 SparkyProjects masterofmonks: many years ago we used to just throw them in the trash, then we were supposed to use a crusher with water that went down the drain, then we had to send them for recycling.
01:53 SparkyProjects And on our site that was a lot of tubes
01:53 masterofmonks Monkeh: I have a few that seriously put out some light.
01:53 Monkeh masterofmonks: Hallways, bedrooms, cupboards, etc, they're just fine and you don't really have to worry about them failing (I've had a simple CFL last 8 years)
01:54 Monkeh masterofmonks: But you put an 18W CFL in a 2.5x2.2m room like this and you start getting eye strain because it's so pathetically dim compared to the 60W lamp you were using.
01:54 masterofmonks SparkyProjects: End of Life, they are crushed and mixed with saw dust and put in a landfill.
01:54 tonsofpcs Monkeh: the blinking doesn't help
01:54 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Mine doesn't blink.
01:55 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Except when aforementioned fucked compressor (or whatever it is) is on.
01:55 tonsofpcs I'll believe it when I see it.
01:55 tonsofpcs just because you can't notice the blink doesn't mean it isn't blinking
01:55 Monkeh That causes every lamp in the house to blink, and I ended up rigging up a custom PSU for a router because it could not survive it
01:55 SparkyProjects Monkeh, my Dad got a lampholder, screwed it through a glass jar lid into the overhang of the shed, inserted lamp, screwed on the jar to make an outside light to see down the garden at night, it got a fair amount of use, lasted something like 20 years before i put a proper fitting there :P
01:55 Monkeh tonsofpcs: It does not blink at any rate visible to me, let's put it that way.
01:56 tonsofpcs can you not complain to the power service provider about it?
01:56 Monkeh SparkyProjects: That's actually better than most fittings in DIY sheds.
01:57 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I tried once. They said they'd look into it if there were further reports.
01:57 Monkeh tonsofpcs: They never did.
01:57 SparkyProjects Yeah, especially the chinese fittings :P
01:57 SparkyProjects I actually put up an old Coughtree bulkhead fitting with porcelain holder :P
01:57 Monkeh But hey, they did at least fix the dodgy substation which was falling over regularly (unrelated)
01:58 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I may exercise some of my contacts in other DNOs and see if I can get them to arrange for a data logger to be fitted. I think they'd find it interesting.
01:59 Monkeh Wow, 247V tonight. It's high lately.
01:59 Monkeh Wait, what?
02:00 Monkeh Why is my output voltage higher than input voltage.
02:00 Monkeh Must've jumped while it was reading it..
02:03 Monkeh Hmm, 13 minutes. I need another UPS.
02:10 tonsofpcs Monkeh: I would start arguing with their collection department about voltage swings causing metering to be corrupted.  That should get them under fire to fix it.
02:11 Monkeh tonsofpcs: In my case it'd be in their favour seeing as I have a LOT of SMPSUs eating current here. :P
02:11 tonsofpcs Monkeh: right, which is why you would be complaining about having to pay more due to a fault in their system
02:11 tonsofpcs and demanding a reduction, etc.
02:13 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Suppose I could try that tack.. If I can manage to stay on the phone that long. I have limited patience for the sort of people you get on the end of these lines.
02:13 SparkyProjects Unfortunately the supply  company have certain limits with their supply, they are given a specification, like for instance it should be say 235 volts + o - say 5%, and at 50Hz + or - 5%
02:13 SparkyProjects As long as they are in that region, not a lot we can do about it, except keep on complaining, or be able to prove some equipment was damaged due to the problems.
02:13 Monkeh SparkyProjects: It's a lot tighter than that on the frequency. ;)
02:14 SparkyProjects ^ just examples
02:15 tonsofpcs in the US, they have to correct for off-frequency each day so that there's exactly 60(Hz)*60(s/m)*60(m/h)*24(h/dy) cycles.
02:16 tonsofpcs our local power company once tried telling us that their voltage tolerance on 480V was 20% before action.... pretty sure we fixed that theory.
02:16 tonsofpcs (yes, that's roughly +- 100V)
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02:27 injektion I need to clear the smell of glycol from my nose brb
02:30 Toastdude Hallo
02:31 injektion The heater core in the toyota is leaking and I just had to make fun of it as obnoxiously as I could
02:31 tonsofpcs by sniffing glycol?
02:31 injektion No
02:32 injektion My dad hates it when something breaks on the T100 because I always compare it to what I drive every day and doesn't have a leaking heater core
02:35 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-1wVDkK6mU&amp;feature=fvwp&amp;NR=1 LOL
02:35 BotSteve Title: What NOT to do when testing HHO... - YouTube
02:36 masterofmonks Son of a...
02:36 masterofmonks Seroster: take that crap to :controversial.
02:36 Seroster At least watch the fucking video first
02:38 masterofmonks Heh.
02:39 Seroster It was the fact that his nozzle stuck in his ceiling that was the LOL.
02:39 masterofmonks Dumbasses were fucking lucky they didn't end up with schrapnel in everyone.
02:39 masterofmonks That is a hose barb.
02:40 Seroster That is why you don't use plumbers goop when working with hho
02:40 masterofmonks Why why why do people insist on using PVC as a pressure vessel?
02:40 injektion Cheap?
02:40 Seroster And a flashback arrestor is far easier to make than a hho generator
02:41 masterofmonks injektion: deadly?
02:41 Seroster masterofmonks, It's durable, tight, comes premade, it fits and its cheap as dirt
02:41 masterofmonks It's deadly?
02:41 Seroster If used inproperly yes
02:41 SparkyProjects Seroster, That nozzle went sideways and stuck in the fence by the looks of things
02:41 masterofmonks Black iron pipe is cheap and easy to fit too, and is less likey to end up with someone dead.
02:41 masterofmonks Hose barb.
02:42 Seroster SparkyProjects, nah, camera angle shifts too much.
02:42 Seroster In essence its a tube on the ground with a cap and a nozzle. He lights the gas coming out and the cap is blown into his overhead garage door, where it sticks.
02:42 Seroster masterofmonks, But its too heavy to work with and a bitch to cut
02:43 SparkyProjects yeah, just read that :P
02:43 masterofmonks http://www.hardwarestore.com/media/product/608795_front200.jpg <-- Hose barb
02:43 Seroster And mom, when dealing with high pressures and PVC without proper high pressure pvc and overpressure valves... Suit yourself.
02:44 masterofmonks Also black iron pipe isn't hard to cut.
02:44 Seroster For your average 15year old in his garage? Yes it is.
02:44 masterofmonks You have hack saws, chop saws, angle grinders, plasma cutters, and even rotary cutters.
02:45 masterofmonks Hacksaw and rotary cutters are about the same price and you can use both for either PVC or black iron pipe.
02:46 masterofmonks Now I will grant you using a hack saw to cut iron pipe is something of a pain, but I would rather do that than end up with a thousand bits of schrapnel that can't be removed.
02:48 SparkyProjects Seroster, a well pump that supplied the site i worked on was replaced with high pressure PVC, 4 inch diameter.
02:48 SparkyProjects One weekend while doing the rounds i got called to the pumphouse, the pressure had split the pipe by the flange joint, i got soaked turning the water off.
02:48 SparkyProjects 100PSI feedind a header tank 2km away, a lot of back pressure and a lot of flow
02:48 SparkyProjects but at lest the pumproom was cleaned :D
02:48 eadthem if they get livestream up to the high voltage lab furnace on the roof, IRC, screwdriver, and DMM   i think we can probably ither fix it  or fix it so it cant be fixed
02:48 Seroster lol
02:48 eadthem prob fix it
02:49 SparkyProjects It's the MDH furnace that's giving problems in the latest blog
02:50 eadthem realy
02:50 eadthem same diffrence
02:50 eadthem did keegs donate there service?
02:50 SparkyProjects I made a comment about needing a duct.
02:51 eadthem ya the HV lab   there shuld be a duct going to the window wall  for cold air return  it shuld come down the side of the wall to the floor
02:52 eadthem prob not possable to bring it to the floor
02:54 eadthem how did they heat it when it was a swimming pool?
02:54 Seroster steam
02:54 eadthem radators?
02:54 Seroster Wwaitwhat
02:55 Seroster The pool was steam heated, the room probably like the rest of the building
02:55 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos: Early Stomper Tests http://youtu.be/02jvn2auLyY
02:56 SparkyProjects They have the heating working ok in HVL i think, though i wouldn't have done it that way
02:56 SparkyProjects The MDH is short circuiting i think because the heat is being dragged straight back into the unit
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02:56 Seroster Heh
02:57 Seroster The heating in HVL sucks. Well. It works. It just leaks a lot
02:57 Seroster btw, SparkyProjects. GO TO BED!
02:57 Seroster It is 3am there.
02:57 Seroster And on the same note, goodnight folks
02:57 SparkyProjects It's early :P
02:57 SparkyProjects 'night :)
02:57 Seroster In brisbane, yes. In london, no.
02:58 SparkyProjects Well it must be after 4 for you :P
02:58 Seroster But I'm younger than you
02:58 eadthem well how expensive could it be to buy 10 feet of duct just to send it oposite directions
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02:58 eadthem i mean tgg self install
02:58 Seroster They want to do evrything 100% by the book.
02:58 Seroster Ponko, BANNAANANAAAH!
02:59 eadthem so it has to be done by a HVAC contractor
02:59 SparkyProjects They could run into insurance problems being a public building (when it opens)
03:00 Toastdude PONKY!
03:00 eadthem because the last contractor was so much better than DIY
03:00 SparkyProjects You can sue a contractor
03:01 Toastdude I'm watching the Stomper early test videos, and I love the fact that their resistors are smoking a lot...
03:02 SparkyProjects Toastdude: they should have cooked some food on those resistors :D
03:02 Cprossu man ain't that the truth Toastdude lol
03:02 Cprossu sizzle sizzle
03:02 Toastdude :D
03:02 SparkyProjects Bacon :)
03:02 Toastdude Nom nom nom, resistor bacon!
03:03 Cprossu glad I was there for that
03:04 tonsofpcs wait, what's wrong with the heat in HVL (other than the whole forced-hot-air-at-ceiling-height issue)?
03:05 SparkyProjects That's the only problem i think
03:06 Toastdude Wow, I paused the Stomper video at the right moment... http://i44.tinypic.com/mcur10.jpg
03:06 SparkyProjects They rotated the ducts because Keags had left them pointing across the ceiling instead of pointing down
03:06 Cprossu tonsofpcs other issues too
03:06 Cprossu lets see
03:06 Cprossu ok lets start:
03:06 Cprossu 1) HVL.
03:06 SparkyProjects Nice catch Toastdude
03:07 Cprossu Leaks from roof and they repurposed an exhaust fan ducting to mount the ac/heater combo on
03:07 eadthem watchhing the captans blog  amy vr chris
03:07 Toastdude Heh, I didn't even do that on purpose
03:07 eadthem and im thinking   this cant end well
03:07 Cprossu when they added the ducting
03:07 SparkyProjects Toastdude: send that to Chris
03:07 Cprossu they covered the return air vent with the supply ducting
03:07 Toastdude On the website or just a tell?
03:07 tonsofpcs d'oh
03:07 Cprossu they ran the thermostat wire THROUGH the roof opening and tucked it in at the seam
03:08 SparkyProjects send to info@
03:08 Cprossu the unit was damaged in transport
03:08 Cprossu so they had to use plywood for the service doors
03:08 Cprossu until they ordered new ones (the did 200 days later or something)
03:08 Cprossu *service panel rather*
03:08 Cprossu but still you get the idea
03:08 Cprossu that's just HVL too.
03:09 Cprossu Wetzel's Pretzel is the unit that goes to the racketball courts and MC
03:10 Cprossu they literally just cut a hole in the roof for the one ontop of mdh.
03:10 Cprossu and didn't utilize any pre-existing ductwork
03:11 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: You using custom screensavers on your Kindle?
03:11 SparkyProjects IMO those units should have been at ground level or in the mechanical room and blow the air at floor level,  taking the stale air from the top
03:11 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: yep
03:11 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Got any suggestions on neat images which look good?
03:11 Cprossu I've been debating.
03:11 tonsofpcs are there full prints of the building? perhaps even CAD drawings that can be updated?
03:12 Cprossu tonsofpcs there are none
03:12 Monkeh|Lap Someone should make some.
03:12 * tonsofpcs nominates ajprog_laptop
03:12 Cprossu the only copy of the blueprints we have are with the city
03:12 Cprossu and I have no clue what state it's in other than there's only one guy there
03:12 tonsofpcs blues are useless
03:12 Monkeh|Lap Not too hard to draw up a building with CAD really
03:12 Cprossu that one there is
03:13 Cprossu I didn't let anyone know I did autocad.
03:13 Cprossu when I was there.
03:13 Cprossu I'd have gotten nothing else done.
03:13 Monkeh|Lap heh
03:13 tonsofpcs lol
03:13 Monkeh|Lap I could probably get that building drawn up in a day or two
03:13 Monkeh|Lap 99% of the time trying to get measurements done with all the crap in the way
03:13 Cprossu there are things about it that don't make sense at all
03:13 tonsofpcs I should have told chris that I couldn't appear on camera due to contract or something then I probably could have finished wiring the wheatstone and not just started :-p
03:14 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: have you been there?
03:14 Cprossu I paced the perimeter and found that their layout was inaccurate
03:14 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Nope.
03:14 Cprossu very inaccurate
03:14 SparkyProjects Cprossu, "your mission should you decide to accept it is to do Cad drawings for TGG, these instructions will self destruct in 5 seconds" :D
03:14 * Cprossu kills it with fire
03:15 SparkyProjects ^Mission Impossible
03:15 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I'm getting a fair mental map of the place from the videos though. The basement is kind of a grey area..
03:15 Cprossu the basement is easy
03:15 tonsofpcs which part of the basement?
03:15 Cprossu know that bigass wall?
03:15 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I found this turned out very well: http://dilekt.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=24#/dif6t5
03:15 Cprossu it's the ppol.
03:15 BotSteve Title: dilekt's deviantART gallery
03:15 Cprossu *pool
03:15 * Ponko finally wakes up
03:15 Cprossu nice Monkeh|Lap
03:16 Cprossu I was going to make my own stuff
03:16 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I could have, in the time it took me to find his gallery again.
03:17 SparkyProjects Monkeh|Lap: The deep end of the pool is nearest the camera, under this end is the mechanical (iirc)
03:17 Cprossu I also typed in 600x800 in google images and came up with a lot of.... hot chicks, missiles, and pron
03:17 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: This one also works fairly well: http://dilekt.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=48#/d6uhux
03:17 tonsofpcs just the stairs in that building would take a day of measuring to figure out
03:17 BotSteve Title: dilekt's deviantART gallery
03:18 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Others didn't turn out so well, rings don't generally work.
03:18 Cprossu tonsofpcs PM for a moment
03:18 tonsofpcs just a moment? ha!
03:18 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: convert to greyscale in photoshop
03:18 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I edited the images first.
03:18 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: But the way the Kindle displays, well.. not exactly crystal clear.
03:19 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: On the first one, see the band of stars under the moon?
03:20 Hackbat oh god this is so cool
03:21 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: Have you just found yo-, no, that's too old.
03:22 Hackbat I found out I have a copy of PLDshell Plus the PLD programing software for Intel PLDs and FLEXlogic FPGAs
03:23 Hackbat requires 2mb of extended ram and 5 mb of Harddrive space
03:23 Hackbat and MS-DOS (3.1 or later)
03:24 Hackbat well I'm retarded
03:24 Hackbat I just put in the floppy disk backwards
03:27 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: It's okay, we love you anyway
03:27 Hackbat aww :C
03:27 Hackbat it's not vhdl
03:41 Ponko nice logic from Subaru back in 1990
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03:43 tonsofpcs how'd you manage to put the disk in backwards?
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03:44 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: He's speshul
03:48 Ponko wait what?
03:55 Ponko CoAdvil still available
03:59 dbshortwave aaaaaaand im out
04:03 Cprossu nice Hackbat
04:03 Cprossu Ponko: eh?
04:03 Ponko you heard of it?
04:03 Ponko the cold tablet
04:03 Cprossu you said "nice logic from suburu in 1990"
04:03 Cprossu what did you mean?
04:04 * Ponko is watching Super Bowl XXIV
04:04 Ponko oh right
04:04 Cprossu ok context is everything rofl
04:04 Ponko one sec i'll see if i can find the ad
04:06 Hackbat tonsofpcs, the front of the floppy drive fell off
04:06 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmgsOY995FU bad quality but that's what i meant
04:06 BotSteve Title: 1990 Subaru Legacy Commercial - YouTube
04:06 Hackbat so I run it bare back now
04:06 tonsofpcs Hackbat: and?
04:06 Hackbat also I wasn't paying attention
04:06 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: And he's speshul
04:07 Hackbat I just grabbed the disk and pushed it in
04:07 Ponko Cprossu follow link lol
04:07 Hackbat change one letter and the entire sentance gets sexier
04:07 Cprossu nice Ponko
04:07 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: To the floppy drive.
04:08 Cprossu give it hd and it was almost filmed like top gear
04:08 Ponko lol
04:08 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: And the sentence just got weirder
04:08 Ponko best one i could find but that is good logic don't you think
04:08 Ponko pretty obvious too but good all the same
04:09 lwq1996 wannabe can you give me a piggie back ride
04:09 * lwq1996 jumps on wannabe's back
04:09 Ponko o_O lee you worry me at times i sware
04:09 lwq1996 im bored ok
04:09 lwq1996 :P
04:09 Ponko lol watch yt
04:10 Ponko or 'videos'
04:17 * Ponko revives chat
04:24 Ponko Cprossu: save the chat
04:24 NeWtoz How about them Lions?
04:24 NeWtoz :p
04:24 * NeWtoz just saved the chat
04:24 NeWtoz You can thank me later
04:25 Ponko yes the only time i'll thank a lions
04:25 Ponko fan
04:25 Ponko apart from when the build my car
04:25 Cprossu ummmm
04:25 Cprossu *thinks*
04:26 Cprossu EXPLOSIONS! BIG ONES!
04:26 * Ponko takes cover
04:30 * Ponko is in Operation Rolling Thunder
04:31 Ponko NeWtoz lets talk football
04:38 NeWtoz I could
04:38 NeWtoz but I'm about to watch stuff
04:38 NeWtoz bbl
04:41 Ponko ok
04:44 BatSteve http://expertenough.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/manifesto4.png
04:44 BatSteve This could easily be retitled "the geek manifesto"
04:45 Ponko BotSteve: should i apologise to my ex?
04:45 BotSteve Not a chance
04:45 Ponko BotSteve: will i apologise to my ex?
04:45 BotSteve No way
04:45 Ponko haha i think he knows what she's like
04:47 BatSteve (:
04:49 Ponko omg
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04:49 wannabe1987 hi
04:49 Ponko i did it and i bet THAT won't have volatile results
04:49 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude
04:49 wannabe1987 hi Ponko
04:50 Ponko You always know when it's CBS News with Dan Rather
04:50 * wannabe1987 bought starwars sandtrooper action figure and towels. it was fun :D and then watched elf
04:50 Ponko yay i love Will Ferrell lol
04:50 wannabe1987 my friend hadn't seen it in....2-3 years.  so he wanted to see it
04:51 Ponko lol fair enough
04:51 wannabe1987 yep
04:51 wannabe1987 and he needed to laugh....
04:52 Ponko well that's what you get from Will Ferrell
04:52 wannabe1987 he bought towels, dinner ware, blu ray player, 26" tv, and blue ray disks for his parents for christmas....and he's looking for a entertainment center
04:52 wannabe1987 he lives w/ his parents...but DAMN KID
04:52 Ponko lol
04:53 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5OHtQqylTQ and this is well
04:53 BotSteve Title: Youtube Poop recites a bedtime story for the kids by lnsector - YouTube
04:53 wannabe1987 they'll have a nice christmas finnally.  its alllll good :D
04:53 * wannabe1987 is still watching the cb
04:54 wannabe1987 is this how you take out the trash, tgg style?
04:55 wannabe1987 .imdb august rush
04:55 wannabe1987 awwwww
04:55 Ponko lol
04:56 BatSteve good idea though wannabe
04:56 Ponko welp given my ex has yet to reply she's adamant that she won't talk to me again
04:56 BatSteve I don't know why we don't have that one yet.
04:56 wannabe1987 mhm
04:56 wannabe1987 because noone thought of it?
04:56 Ponko anyway
04:56 wannabe1987 you ok Ponko?
04:56 Ponko yeah
04:57 wannabe1987 ok
04:57 wannabe1987 cookie?
04:57 Ponko :) please
04:57 wannabe1987 .cookie Ponko
04:57 BotSteve Here you go, Ponko, I baked you a bacon cookie!
04:57 wannabe1987 o.O
04:57 wannabe1987 i still need to make those!
04:57 Ponko EPIC MEAL TIME
04:57 Ponko bacon strips and bacon strips and bacon strips and bacon strips
04:58 wannabe1987 lol @ batmans hat....says "bolt depot"
04:58 * wannabe1987 has cookies in teh freezer
04:58 wannabe1987 and some here, but those are for thursday :/
04:59 wannabe1987 yet....i eated one
04:59 Ponko indeed
05:02 * Ponko thinks about Super Bowl XXIV and remembers
05:02 Ponko wasn't that the most lopsided SB in history?
05:02 * wannabe1987 doesn't know
05:03 Ponko .w Super Bowl XXIV
05:03 BotSteve "Super Bowl XXIV was an American football game played on January 28, 1990 at the Louisiana Superdome in New Orleans, Louisiana to decide the National Football League (NFL) champion following the 1989 regular season." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXIV
05:03 * wannabe1987 watches superbowl for the commercials....
05:03 Ponko that's what everyone watches for
05:04 * wannabe1987 has to put these away :/
05:04 Ponko it's like the FA Cup Final over here
05:04 Ponko BUT the Super Bowl is bigger in my eyes
05:04 wannabe1987 amy works in a mental hosptial....i'm sure she's been hit before
05:05 Ponko yeah
05:08 wannabe1987 and i'd rather drive a stick barefoot than shod, but i can drive it in heels as well
05:09 wannabe1987 lololol i like this
05:12 wannabe1987 wtf why steal a shifterknob?
05:12 wannabe1987 mine doesnt' come off
05:12 Ponko funny how Mike Holmgren was the Offensive Coordinator for the 49ers during that game how ironic that they were talking about him becoming a HC and he did and 7 years later he was bascing in the same Bayou but as HC of the Green Bay Packers
05:13 wannabe1987 ewwww batman crack
05:13 Ponko builders bum
05:13 wannabe1987 plumberscrack
05:16 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve
05:16 BatSteve hi wannabe1987
05:17 wannabe1987 i think i'm gonna give the movie to my mom....it is priced at 4.99, i got it ON SALE for 3.99.  2 out of the 3 LOTR movies were on sale for 3.99 as well....
05:21 Cprossu hrmmm I had an idea
05:21 * Cprossu gets to it
05:22 wannabe1987 had?  did you lose it?
05:23 Ponko BatSteve: why do the Colts have to go bad THIS season if they got to the Super Bowl they'd be the first EVER team to play ing the Super Bowl @ home and AS the Designated Home team
05:23 Ponko i think it's a conspiricy
05:24 BatSteve me too
05:25 Ponko but then again that wouldn't of happened if Peyton hasn't crocked
05:25 Cprossu wow my alt+printscreen isn't working
05:26 Cprossu figured it out
05:27 Ponko Green Bay did an Arsenal
05:27 Ponko won it the first time and got back to the final then bloody lost
05:28 Ponko 1971 & 1972, 1979 & 1980
05:33 * wannabe1987 finds something to listen to and quick!
05:33 Hackbat http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4824819/green1.png
05:33 Ponko bloody hell it's cold
05:33 Hackbat amazing
05:33 wannabe1987 there, shoving headphones in my ears worked...
05:33 wannabe1987 whats that,
05:34 Ponko bloody cat's walking on the keyboard
05:34 Hackbat screenshot from the stomper test video
05:34 wannabe1987 ah
05:34 Hackbat flsh overleaded the camera
05:35 Hackbat Flash
05:35 Hackbat Overloaded
05:35 Ponko trippy
05:38 lwq1996 oh fuck, i got that security thing virus
05:38 lwq1996 or trojan
05:38 Ponko yay
05:39 lwq1996 how the fuck do i get rid of it
05:39 Ponko idk
05:39 Hackbat safemode
05:39 Ponko ^^
05:39 lwq1996 hwo does that work
05:40 Hackbat the one I had even had a proxy set up
05:40 lwq1996 i mean long term how do i get rid of it
05:40 Hackbat you go into safemode
05:40 Hackbat and selete it
05:40 Hackbat and the registry settigns for it
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05:40 lwq1996 how i dont know what it is
05:40 lwq1996 it just got in while i was on the internet
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05:41 lwq1996 it got in when i was on the internet
05:41 Hackbat stoping viewing porn with IE 6
05:42 Ponko take a time out for Diet Pepsi the right one
05:42 Hackbat just leanred that Shift + Click closes channels @_@
05:42 * Ponko isn't going to try that
05:43 lwq1996 it was using chrome actually
05:43 lwq1996 ok hackbat how do i know what to look for
05:43 lwq1996 and while a anti virus take it out
05:43 Hackbat what's the name of it?
05:43 Hackbat lwq1996, no
05:43 lwq1996 security alert center
05:43 Hackbat you have to get rid of it first
05:43 Ponko well Hackbat i got the thought in his head to watch it
05:44 Hackbat http://www.malwarehelp.org/fake-windows-security-center-analysis-and-removal-2009.html
05:44 BotSteve Title: Fake Windows Security Center Removal (How to remove Fake Windows Security Center) | Malware Help. Org
05:44 Ponko oh THAT thing
05:44 Ponko say lwq1996 does have a blue background?
05:44 Hackbat is it that one?
05:44 Ponko YOUR IN DANGER
05:45 Ponko yes i am in danger
05:45 Ponko of BAD GRAMMAR
05:45 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell dbshortwave http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/391993_282233201829692_244753448911001_816878_606333135_n.jpg
05:45 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when dbshortwave is around.
05:45 lwq1996 no its 2012 not 2009
05:46 lwq1996 ok its taking me to different sites nwo
05:46 lwq1996 now
05:46 Hackbat still
05:46 Hackbat it's got like the same stuff
05:46 Ponko what does your background say lwq1996
05:46 Hackbat you'll need to restart and hold F8 while it boots
05:47 lwq1996 ik how to get to safe mod
05:47 lwq1996 mode
05:47 Ponko Hackbat: you've seen the background of it right
05:47 Hackbat nope
05:47 Hackbat lwq1996, be sure to print the instructions first
05:47 Ponko ok
05:47 lwq1996 could i get ride of it by not using it
05:48 Hackbat lol
05:48 Hackbat SUUUUURE
05:48 Hackbat cause that's how viruses work
05:48 lwq1996 ponko it didnt change my backround
05:48 astro73|alice wannabe1987: that would explain my wifi
05:48 lwq1996 by not using safe mode i mean
05:48 Hackbat what?
05:48 wannabe1987 what?
05:48 lwq1996 could i get rid of it by not going into safe mode
05:48 Hackbat lwq1996, do you even know how to use windows?
05:49 Ponko Strange it did for me lwq1996
05:49 lwq1996 not every little detail but i know how to use it
05:49 Hackbat do you even know WHAT safe mode is?
05:49 Hackbat I was like 11 and knew what it was
05:50 wannabe1987 .seen eightbitbrad
05:50 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen eightbitbrad around.
05:50 wannabe1987 awwww
05:50 wannabe1987 your bot reset itself, BatSteve
05:50 Ponko http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=your+in+danger+background&amp;um=1&amp;hl=en&amp;qscrl=1&amp;nord=1&amp;rlz=1T4SNYK_en-GBGB404GB405&amp;biw=1280&amp;bih=633&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbnid=rEObBgHwaMhffM:&amp;imgrefurl=http://remove-malware.net/how-to-remove-%25E2%2580%259Cwarning-your%25E2%2580%2599re-in-danger%25E2%2580%259D-background/&amp;docid=6HqGDY9RaZOJtM&amp;imgurl=http://remove-malware.net/wp-content/uploads/systool_fake-background.jpg&amp;w=500&amp;h=336&amp;ei=Cn_tTtCrCoeG8gP
05:50 BatSteve yes
05:50 BatSteve it's very said
05:50 lwq1996 no i dont know what safe mode is because i never used it before
05:50 lwq1996 never had too
05:50 astro73|alice wannabe1987: fuzzy reception
05:50 wannabe1987 i never used it either but i know what it is
05:51 wannabe1987 ooooo right astro73|alice
05:51 Ponko http://remove-malware.net/wp-content/uploads/systool_fake-background.jpg lwq1996 this is what i saw once and it made me laugh
05:52 Hackbat can someone else take over with helping lwq1996 ?
05:52 lwq1996 no no no
05:52 lwq1996 i will run a boot log scan
05:52 Hackbat jesus
05:53 Ponko lwq1996: would you fall for that
05:53 astro73|alice also, TSO makes an amazing show
05:54 lwq1996 ponko i dont mean on the security center alert its through avast
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05:55 Ponko no i mean if you saw this http://remove-malware.net/wp-content/uploads/systool_fake-background.jpg would you believe it
05:56 Ponko well lwq1996?
05:56 Ponko lol
05:56 lwq1996 no, my dad would though >.>
05:56 Ponko really
05:56 Ponko has he got a basic understanding of grammar
05:57 lwq1996 no
05:57 Ponko i showed that to my dad and he laughed
05:57 lwq1996 hes a fucking hill billy for god sake!!!!
05:57 Ponko lol
05:57 Ponko point taken
05:57 Ponko but he's your dad dammit
05:57 Ponko you'll miss him when he's gone
05:58 lwq1996 oh yes i will, he has taught almost all i know
05:58 Hackbat won't miss mine
05:58 lwq1996 why
05:58 Ponko Your're in danger lwq1996
05:59 lwq1996 ponko stop saying that
05:59 lwq1996 i havent had that
05:59 Ponko lol but that's funny because it's stupid
06:00 lwq1996 atleast i didnt fall for the facebook download my friend did and he downloaded the roach virus where the roaches go to the center of your screen and your whole computer is whiped out if you press a button
06:00 Ponko lol
06:00 Ponko so he lost everything
06:00 lwq1996 she lost everything
06:00 Ponko ah right
06:01 lwq1996 hard drive was completely destroyed
06:01 Ponko that's why you don't download from unreliable sources
06:01 lwq1996 i will be back i got to do this scan
06:01 BatSteve Friends don't let friends connect to the internet on Windows.
06:01 lwq1996 well idk if i'll be back today
06:01 lwq1996 with ie8 atleast
06:01 Ponko lol BatSteve
06:02 lwq1996 brb hopefully
06:02 Ponko kk
06:02 lwq1996 and batsteve i got the security monitor 2012 thing
06:04 BatSteve I am so confused why he tells me these things...
06:04 Ponko yeah it confuses me too
06:05 Ponko well maybe he should of said which site to avoid
06:07 Cprossu someone find me a high res pic of the thumper cap banks!
06:07 Ponko instead of the one Hackbat sent?
06:07 Cprossu no of the cap bank
06:07 Toastdude Cprossu: for a gmod thing?
06:07 Cprossu no I had an idea
06:08 Cprossu I need it crisp enough to read the cap specs though
06:08 Ponko ah right
06:16 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude
06:17 Toastdude Wannabe!
06:17 wannabe1987 i been here for about an hour...
06:17 Ponko catch up toasty
06:17 Toastdude I haven't been paying attention for more than an hour
06:17 wannabe1987 lol
06:28 BatSteve time to go
06:28 wannabe1987 night
06:28 BatSteve Remember everyone, only use your powers for good.
06:37 Cprossu everyone who is still up
06:38 Cprossu what's your favorite tgg project?
06:38 Toastdude Stomper
06:39 wannabe1987 ok everyone i have to go to bed
06:39 Cprossu night
06:39 wannabe-zz alarm is set for 7 and its coming soon :/
06:40 Toastdude Night Kelly
06:40 wannabe-zz night Toastdude
07:07 Toastdude New HOUR LONG CB coming up soon :D
07:15 * Toastdude makes LEGO caliper...
07:16 Cprossu So I came up with a theme for kindle screensaver images
07:17 Cprossu hah hah
07:21 * Ponko 's cat is flapping her tail in his face lol
07:23 Katemonster dude.
07:23 Katemonster sparkyprojects is old.
07:24 Katemonster :O
07:25 Hackbat ...
07:28 Ponko you only realised?
07:28 Ponko well he's wise
07:41 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/barcode/src/user.h  i alwase feel like im cheeting when i use compiler macros
07:41 eadthem 40 lines of code made in to 16
07:42 eadthem off to bed cya
07:49 Katemonster i just stumbled upon his crt projector autopsy video; i had no idea.  :P
07:55 * Toastdude just finished his lego caliper... It measures in inches :D
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08:17 Toastdude .....
08:35 Cprossu that wasn't that bad
08:42 Toastdude Just kinda strange
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10:23 Cprossu sndwrx you there?
10:23 Cprossu I just killed the so part of my so kindle lol
10:25 Cprossu it was as simple as /etc/init.d/framework stop, deleting /var/local/adunits (I actually backed it up on the flash but meh), adding a blank adunits in, and starting the framework back up
10:33 * Ponko is doing the safety dance
10:33 Cprossu nice
10:33 Cprossu btw someone asked me what screensaver images I was using
10:33 Cprossu so I created some
10:34 Cprossu https://picasaweb.google.com/106708795414596406369/TGGKindleCandidates?authuser=0&amp;feat=directlink
10:34 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Cpro Nikkor - TGG kindle ca...
10:34 Cprossu xD
10:34 Cprossu based on a 'tgg stuff' theme
10:34 Cprossu will do more tomorrow
10:38 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap still awake?
10:39 Cprossu I had a mini breakthrough with teh kindle
11:09 killawayZZzz wow how menny hours does it take to put out a 1 hour long movie on youtube ? :)
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11:39 killakee no one knows ?
11:49 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve For future OLD air handler/rooftop configuration before the new stuff -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fka2VDrmFIk&amp;feature=BFa&amp;list=UUbaAyXYMnbQu0BGGPbvxHsw&amp;lf=plcp
11:49 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
11:49 BotSteve Title: Cpt Log Dec 29 - Day 1 - Work Begins(a) - YouTube
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12:51 Seroster Hello there.
12:51 Seroster Sup CaptainNiobe?
12:52 CaptainNiobe hey sero :)
12:53 Seroster I was thinking about an experiment...
12:53 CaptainNiobe oh?
12:53 CaptainNiobe O.O wtf?
12:53 Seroster Well yes, an experiment
12:53 CaptainNiobe what do you need?
12:53 * dbshortwave thinks this will end badly
12:53 BotSteve dbshortwave: I have the following messages for you:
12:53 BotSteve At 05:45Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell dbshortwave http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/391993_282233201829692_244753448911001_816878_606333135_n.jpg
12:54 Seroster What I need? Nothing really, it's just an experiment ^^
12:54 CaptainNiobe hmm... while i'm opped... :D
12:55 Seroster Is there such a thing as "french breakfast"?
12:55 CaptainNiobe i don't know, but i do know there's french toast
12:55 dbshortwave lol
12:55 Seroster Hm. Yeah.
12:56 CaptainNiobe so. explain your experiment
12:56 Seroster Nah, I won't ^^
12:56 dbshortwave yeah i see bad things coming ahead
12:56 Seroster xD
12:56 CaptainNiobe if i get in trouble for being opped...
12:56 Seroster I'll just let the experiment run out ^^
12:56 Seroster You won't
12:56 Seroster I might, but you won't
13:09 dbshortwave hmm
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13:30 wannabe-zz hi spd!
13:30 wannabe1987 hi CaptainNiobe
13:30 CaptainNiobe hey wannabe :)
13:30 wannabe1987 how are you?
13:30 CaptainNiobe not bad, though headache... you?
13:31 wannabe1987 good....just woke up an hour ago and then got ready for church....i look so pretty now :/
13:31 * Seroster twitches
13:31 wannabe1987 what?
13:31 CaptainNiobe pretty's good... :) what religion?
13:32 wannabe1987 Christian Reformed
13:32 Seroster I doubt she is a FSMer, a muslim or a hindu
13:32 CaptainNiobe sero, there's also catholic and roman catholic, and a ton of others i don't know... lol...
13:33 wannabe1987 reformed, presbyterian, lutheran, morman, united church of christ, nondenominational, etc
13:33 Seroster ...And...
13:33 Seroster WBC
13:33 Seroster :O
13:33 wannabe1987 lol
13:33 wannabe1987 yeah, no thanks
13:33 Seroster It would be SO hillarious if a plane crashed on the WBC HQ
13:33 Seroster "GOD WONT PROTECT FAG TROOPS!" *SPLAT*
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13:34 CaptainNiobe wannabe, i'm dumb... what's reformed as opposed to mainstream christian?
13:34 Seroster Wb mom
13:34 wannabe1987 i don't know the difference, tbh. :
13:34 wannabe1987 :P*
13:34 CaptainNiobe O.O
13:34 wannabe1987 stupid bandaid
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13:36 wannabe1987 theres little differences like women in office (like pastor, elder, deacon)
13:36 wannabe1987 douglas
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13:52 Seroster oops
13:55 wannabe1987 mom is having issues
13:55 wannabe1987 ONE WEEK TILL CHRISTMAS
13:55 wannabe1987 sorry
13:55 Seroster Loo
13:55 wannabe1987 one week till my mothers birthday as well
13:55 dbshortwave -.-
13:55 Seroster That sucks
13:55 wannabe1987 except our christmas is on friday :/ and monday :/ and the 28th/29th :D
13:55 Seroster Nobody should be allowed to breed in march
13:55 wannabe1987 lol
13:57 wannabe1987 her birthday gift is me digitally scanning (somehow, maybe using the flatbed, maybe using dads scanner) allllll of her photos in and storing them on my external by year and maybe month....until they get their own external !
13:57 wannabe1987 yes, i must be crazy
13:57 wannabe1987 and i must leave for church soon
13:59 dbshortwave sit still
13:59 dbshortwave lol
14:00 Seroster Hello there mom
14:00 wannabe1987 bye
14:01 CaptainNiobe later wannabe,enjoy church :)
14:01 masterofmonks CaptainNiobe: isn't that a contradiction in termss?
14:02 Seroster xD
14:02 CaptainNiobe not nessicarily, depends how the person likes church... :P
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14:28 sndwrx Cprossu: Pretty cool.
14:29 sndwrx Cprossu: Other people were replacing/removing files from .assets, but they were being overwritten everytime something happened.  It was something as big as an update, but I don't rememeber what action was causing it.
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14:52 sndwrx Cprossu: wasn't, rather.
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14:53 Seroster Chat is too damn dead.
14:53 CaptainNiobe liven it up :D
14:53 tonsofpcs \o//
14:53 injektion I just got out of bed
14:54 Monkeh Cprossu: I am now.
14:55 injektion I had a night of fun last night
14:55 CaptainNiobe what did you do?
14:56 injektion Went out to a goth club
14:56 CaptainNiobe sounds interesting :)
15:03 injektion It was and luckily I didn't have to drive
15:03 CaptainNiobe lol... did you uget somewhat wasted? lol
15:03 injektion I'm a social drinker
15:04 CaptainNiobe ahh...
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15:05 mashpriborintorg hiya
15:05 Seroster lol
15:05 CaptainNiobe hi
15:05 Seroster Hello mash
15:06 mashpriborintorg the Captain's blos is laaaaate :p
15:06 Seroster Isnt mash what you got before you distill it into moonshine?
15:06 Seroster Its a one hour episode
15:06 injektion Yes
15:06 Seroster injektion knows a lot about booze I hear
15:06 injektion I know what moonshine is and tried it
15:07 injektion Don't ever try it
15:07 Seroster Eh
15:07 Seroster Isnt it just 40percent alcohol in water?
15:08 mashpriborintorg sounds something kinda special O-o
15:08 CaptainNiobe i'm not much of a drinker... had one yesterday (my time) at my folks', but haven't had  drink for ages before that...
15:08 mashpriborintorg as lemoncello, 90 percent alcohol with lemon juice
15:08 mashpriborintorg just awfull
15:08 injektion I used to date an alcoholic
15:09 injektion Last time we dated he had to put me to bed because I passed out before he did
15:09 Seroster Hardcore alcoholic or borderline?
15:09 injektion hardcore
15:10 Electricguy best christmas tune ever :D http://soundcloud.com/hankijord/jingle-bits-bells
15:10 BotSteve Title: Jingle Bits & Bells by hankijord on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
15:10 CaptainNiobe one of the guys i was with was a pretty hardcore drinker, most of our money went on his alcohol... wasn't good with a baby on the way... :-\
15:12 dbshortwave not really a good thing
15:12 dbshortwave i drink but i havent had a taste in 3 months
15:13 injektion This is still one of my favorite christmas songs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t039p6xqutU&amp;ob=av2e
15:13 BotSteve Title: "Weird Al" Yankovic - Christmas At Ground Zero - YouTube
15:13 CaptainNiobe drinking is ok - if done in moderation...
15:14 Electricguy this one is epic too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u_c1oyaClU
15:14 BotSteve Title: White Trash Christmas - YouTube
15:16 Seroster I hate christmas music
15:16 injektion http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCNvZqpa-7Q
15:16 BotSteve Title: White Wine In The Sun by Tim Minchin - YouTube
15:17 Electricguy Seroster, in soviet swden christmas music hate you! ;)
15:17 CaptainNiobe i thought that was russia lol
15:18 Electricguy can be soviet US too! ;P
15:18 Electricguy depending on where you live :P
15:18 CaptainNiobe australia? :P
15:18 Electricguy yepp! XD
15:18 Seroster Nah
15:18 Seroster Not even the commies like 'stralia
15:18 CaptainNiobe ...
15:19 CaptainNiobe i swear, i'm gonna kick you one of these days, sero... :P
15:19 Electricguy i like aussie hardcore.. :D which comes from australia (obviously) :P
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15:19 * Seroster molests CaptainNiobe
15:19 Seroster was kicked by CaptainNiobe: NO MOLESTATION OF OPS! :P
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15:19 CaptainNiobe told him :P
15:19 Electricguy lol
15:19 Seroster Oh you bastard
15:19 CaptainNiobe :P
15:20 Electricguy Seroster is like herpes, whatever you do you never get rid of it :P
15:20 * Seroster cries and goes looking for a razorblade
15:20 * Electricguy gives Seroster a razor blade for free, just to show how much he likes Seroster :)
15:20 * CaptainNiobe hides all razorblades
15:21 Seroster Piss off electricguy=P
15:21 Electricguy :P
15:21 Electricguy nah preferably not :)
15:22 Electricguy lol http://www.damnlol.com/i/bdce213230b885ede232c834b1e0bdaf.jpg
15:22 Seroster Next time I come visit you I'll abuse your dog!
15:22 CaptainNiobe who?
15:23 Electricguy i'm allergic to furry pets... so, fail :)
15:23 Seroster But... YOU are a furry...
15:23 CaptainNiobe O.O
15:24 * Electricguy still don't understand Seroster's totally fucked humor, or whatever it's supposed to be
15:24 Seroster :c
15:25 CaptainNiobe sero's just sero... he's cool, not nasty or anything, so it's all good... :)
15:25 Seroster Haaaa he was shot in his balls!
15:25 Seroster *Watching sudden impact, dirty harry 3*
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15:32 CaptainNiobe hey SparkyProjects :)
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15:33 Electricguy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOMh_Wzav1I&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=12&amp;feature=plpp_video
15:33 BotSteve Title: Ced Tecknoboy - Merry X-Mas (Club Mix) - YouTube
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16:01 Seroster Hello SparkyProjects
16:01 SparkyProjects Hi
16:02 Seroster How's it hanging?
16:03 JA12 .calc 43 f to c
16:03 BotSteve 6.11111111 degrees Celsius
16:04 JA12 thanks BotSteve
16:04 BotSteve You're welcome, JA12
16:04 injektion Thanks BotSteve
16:04 BotSteve You're welcome, injektion
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16:14 injektion It's sad that the incandescent bulb will be banned next year :(
16:15 mashpriborintorg here they're already almost out of sale... except for car bulbs
16:17 tonsofpcs injektion: huh?
16:18 injektion Never mind http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/congress-defunds-ban-on-incandescent-light-bulbs-but-doesnt-quite-save-them/
16:19 injektion I hate CFLs
16:20 * mashpriborintorg is lacking Captains blog, wanna watch one more time some the old TGG videos
16:20 injektion I don't?like the light they emit
16:20 mashpriborintorg yeah CFLs spread RFIs heavily
16:21 injektion I <3 GE's Reveal bulbs
16:22 Seroster Lol
16:22 Seroster RFIs?
16:23 injektion CFLs and white LEDs are just "too cold and soulless"
16:23 Seroster Yeah
16:23 Seroster Make them out of orange glass. Problem solved.
16:24 mashpriborintorg they make hotter white led bulbs now
16:25 * mashpriborintorg resetting cable router, crappy connection spped
16:25 CaptainNiobe hotter or warmer?
16:26 injektion http://www.ge.com/innovation/timeline/images/innovation/2001_in_reveal-lightbulb_m.jpg
16:26 injektion I will only use those since they do not give me a headache
16:26 tonsofpcs radio frequency interference
16:29 tonsofpcs injektion: so an incandescent gives you a headache?
16:29 tonsofpcs *a standard
16:29 injektion No CFLs do
16:29 tonsofpcs oh, well yea, CFLs give everyone headaches
16:29 tonsofpcs they flicker
16:29 Electricguy not me :P
16:29 injektion I can tell that they flicker :P
16:30 injektion I can also tell that cheap LED chrsitmas lights flicker
16:30 Electricguy yes
16:30 Electricguy cause they only got one diode and a resistor in series with the mains
16:31 tonsofpcs half-wave rectified?
16:31 Electricguy yepp
16:31 tonsofpcs :(
16:32 * tonsofpcs hands injektion a rectifier with NEMA 5-15 plug and NEMA 1-10 receptacle to fix the LEDs
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16:33 injektion I still don't see why my eyes can see it when LEDs and CFLs flicker
16:34 Electricguy if you move your eyes fast in front of the LEDs/CFLs you can see the flicker
16:34 tonsofpcs well, your christmas tree lights have a longer off-cycle than on-cycle, roughly 50% duty though, at 60 Hz.
16:34 Electricguy if you can see the flicker without moving your head you are most likely a droid
16:35 * injektion must be a droid then
16:35 injektion My dad has some LED bulb in a few lamps around the house and I can tell those flicker
16:35 tonsofpcs Electricguy: or you have a second light (or TV or computer monitor) with a different reference (different leg of mains for lamps)
16:35 sndwrx it's really not that difficult to see the LED christmas light flicker.
16:37 tonsofpcs I can see the flicker in standard fluorescents (even the ones with good ballasts) in our TV master control, as we have a lot of monitors who are all refresh-rate locked to house sync (which is a GPS locked clock) at 59.94 Hz.  You can see the beat-frequency between them if any light from one (lamps or monitors) is in your field of view while light from the other is in your field of view
16:38 sndwrx I can understand that if there's a reference.
16:38 sndwrx But I (and presumably injektion
16:38 sndwrx ) can see it in LED lights without a reference.
16:38 tonsofpcs sndwrx: the cheap LED lights are half-wave rectified
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16:38 BotSteve Cookies, Sandwiches, Skittles, Oh my!
16:38 sndwrx got it
16:38 sndwrx hi wannabe1987
16:38 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
16:39 tonsofpcs /-\___/-\___/-\___ ... is their voltage/current waveform
16:39 CaptainNiobe hey wannabe1987 :)
16:39 wannabe1987 Seroster:i enjoy church, so its not a contradictory statement
16:39 wannabe1987 and niobe, i did enjoy church :D
16:39 CaptainNiobe good to hear :)
16:39 tonsofpcs church? on a .... oh, wait, it is sunday....
16:39 wannabe1987 yep
16:39 CaptainNiobe lol...
16:39 * tonsofpcs really needs to take a week off work
16:39 wannabe1987 how are you sndwrx?
16:40 wannabe1987 your snow disappeared :D
16:40 tonsofpcs snow disappearing is not a :D, it's a :(
16:40 wannabe1987 no....snow IS bad!!!!!
16:41 * CaptainNiobe doesn't get snow in brisbane, australia
16:41 tonsofpcs not even in winter?
16:41 CaptainNiobe nope, not cold enough
16:41 tonsofpcs awww
16:41 CaptainNiobe yeah... sucks... never seen real snow in my life...
16:41 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: c'mon, 4 days til winter, we need snow
16:41 wannabe1987 lol
16:42 tonsofpcs CaptainNiobe: visit TGG, I'd expect they get some.
16:42 wannabe1987 CaptainNiobe, i'll send you some....
16:42 wannabe1987 lol niobe doesn't fly
16:42 wannabe1987 she's stuck on an island
16:42 tonsofpcs or you can visit where I went to school.  we got 8-10' in 3 days a few years back
16:42 wannabe1987 ithica?
16:42 CaptainNiobe tonsofpcs, if i could get to the labs, i'd happily frolick in it... and wannabe1987, i think it'll melt before it gets here :P
16:43 tonsofpcs no, oswego
16:44 CaptainNiobe tonsofpcs, lemme explain... i have a death phobia, an acute fear of me or anyone i know dying (way beyond the norm)... i can't fly because i have this stupid idea that plane will crash and kill me... lol...
16:44 injektion Do you drive?
16:44 CaptainNiobe nope
16:44 tonsofpcs CaptainNiobe: I hear that boats can float in water
16:44 injektion Do you take public transportation?
16:44 injektion Do you walk?
16:44 tonsofpcs do you walk?
16:45 wannabe1987 ...
16:45 wannabe1987 hi injektion
16:45 injektion Hey wannabe1987
16:45 wannabe1987 how are you?
16:45 tonsofpcs anyway, not going to try to rationalize fear, I understand it well.
16:45 injektion You can die from just about anything
16:45 injektion I'm good
16:45 CaptainNiobe tonsofpcs, you wanna pay for a cruiseliner over there, then a coach to grand rapids, you go right ahead :P
16:45 tonsofpcs CaptainNiobe: seems like it would be a fun trip!
16:45 CaptainNiobe that it would... for quite a few thousand dollars lol
16:46 tonsofpcs although honestly, as much as I abhor flying, I'd rather fly than risk getting seasick for like 8 months
16:46 * wannabe1987 loves to fly
16:46 CaptainNiobe i'm fine on the water... and i doubt a trip in this day and age would take 8 months lol
16:46 sndwrx Eight months/
16:46 sndwrx ?
16:47 CaptainNiobe i reckon about 2 weeks to usa
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16:48 masterofmonks Speaking of My Little Pony...
16:48 CaptainNiobe lol... huh?
16:49 wannabe1987 douglas=mlp
16:49 masterofmonks Or at least he is a fan.
16:49 CaptainNiobe lol... i still have my childhood collection...
16:50 masterofmonks He's 19(?)
16:50 CaptainNiobe i'm 31 :P
16:50 wannabe1987 you are?
16:50 CaptainNiobe yup
16:50 wannabe1987 hm
16:50 CaptainNiobe ?
16:51 wannabe1987 nothin.  i assume everyone is my age (25ish) until proven otherwise
16:51 CaptainNiobe lol... dw, i have the same problem lol
16:52 injektion I saw the new mission impossible movie last night
16:52 wannabe1987 and i assume everyone is not-creepy lookin until proven otherwise as well :P
16:53 wannabe1987 i went shopping for blueray discs last night with a friend :D  and we went to meijer
16:53 injektion BMW must of paid a lot for product placement
16:53 wannabe1987 why
16:54 CaptainNiobe wannabe1987, you should have seen my pic on fb... :P injektion: i though #3 was the last one? where's his wife gets taken hostage?
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16:55 injektion It's the one after that I think
16:56 Seroster wannabe1987, for how long were you at church?
16:56 wannabe1987 church lasts anhour and 15 min, but i stayed late talkin with friends
16:57 Seroster Riiight
16:58 wannabe1987 what, i haven't seen my bestie since may....
16:58 wannabe1987 she oes to school in texas
16:59 Seroster Shes a texan?
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17:00 Seroster How many people live in texas+
17:00 CaptainNiobe g'day. mom :)
17:01 wannabe1987 no, she's from michigan....
17:02 Seroster Every week you spend in texas your IQ drops by 5%
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17:03 BotSteve Spatula.
17:04 CaptainNiobe hello mom :)
17:04 masterofmonks wannabe1987: define "creepy looking"
17:04 Seroster .define creepy looking
17:04 BotSteve Couldn't get any definitions for creepy looking.
17:04 * Seroster mutilates BotSteve
17:05 wannabe1987 lol
17:06 wannabe1987 many definitions, but i've got some "looks" but i'm not on fb so i can't pull photos
17:06 wannabe1987 not on fb atm*
17:07 sndwrx wannabe1987: shush, you're teaching Seroster how /not/ to look.
17:07 sndwrx or behave, something.  :P
17:07 * sndwrx snickers.
17:11 sndwrx ...
17:11 * sndwrx kills chat.
17:11 * Experimentonomen burps
17:11 sndwrx My cat is creepin' around, trying to check out my wheat thins and roasted red pepper asiago cheese dip.
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17:13 mashpriborintorg Had to switch my wifi router to channel 12, channel 6 is sooo crowded
17:13 mashpriborintorg at leadt 15 or 20 neighbours on channel 6
17:13 tonsofpcs lol
17:13 tonsofpcs yay defaults
17:14 JA12 http://www.weebls-stuff.com/songs/kenya/
17:14 BotSteve Title: kenya - Weebl's Stuff
17:14 injektion my AP randomly selects a channel
17:14 CaptainNiobe stupid people who don't know how to change them and never think about it lol
17:14 tonsofpcs randomly or smartly?
17:14 mashpriborintorg I was downloading @50 ko/s against 2000ko with rj45 link
17:14 sndwrx CaptainNiobe: Most people don't even know the ability to change it exists.
17:15 tonsofpcs CaptainNiobe: also, a lot of people who try to investigate further on their own go "well, it defaulted to 6 so the middle must be better but my neighbor is on 6 so i'll try 5 or 7"
17:15 CaptainNiobe they don't question much then, do they? lol
17:15 mashpriborintorg I tried channel 1 but the router didn't like it at all
17:15 tonsofpcs why not?
17:16 Sgt_Lemming wow, since when does CaptainNiobe have ops?
17:16 mashpriborintorg don't know, the broadcast was always starting and stopping
17:16 CaptainNiobe ask sero, lemming lol
17:16 tonsofpcs 07:53:26 -!- mode/#thegeekgroup [+o CaptainNiobe] by Seroster
17:16 tonsofpcs Sun Dec 18 12:16:56 EST 2011
17:17 tonsofpcs 4.5 hours ago?
17:17 Seroster Since then
17:18 Seroster I know it's dangerous to give women power, but I am confident this isnt the red week =)
17:18 CaptainNiobe lol... do i have to kick you again sero? :P
17:21 mashpriborintorg I have news for the captains blog: Chris is uploading it, but still around 140 min left
17:21 mashpriborintorg it's the biggest one ever
17:21 CaptainNiobe oh, wow... how long's the video?
17:23 mashpriborintorg more than one hour it seems
17:24 CaptainNiobe wow... and vegas is a pain for that, it takes forever to render...
17:24 Seroster Looool
17:24 Seroster 14 hours ago he was like "Long blog coming up, rendering, lol"
17:25 SparkyProjects Especially at the resolution and frame rate you do it at CaptainNiobe :D
17:25 CaptainNiobe LOL!!! oh, man, i *hope* it hasn't taken 14 hours...
17:25 mashpriborintorg hopefully his computer didn't freeze at 98% of the rendering :p
17:25 CaptainNiobe -_- i like quality, pj :P
17:25 eadthem so ive been having corrosion issues with my sous vide crockpot setup
17:25 eadthem just figured it out
17:26 eadthem the grounded PT100 temperature probe is stainless steel      and i grounded the aluminum for safety
17:26 eadthem i just disconnected the ground and mesured .5V potental
17:26 injektion electrolysis?
17:26 eadthem galvanic corrosion
17:27 eadthem the materials shuld be fine  so long as i dont ground the pot agan
17:27 injektion I thought that was electrolysis when voltage would cause metal to corrode like what happens to heater cores
17:27 eadthem i still want to paint/coat it  but i havent found any coatings that i like for there food safety and heat issues
17:28 eadthem galvanic is when the metals become the voltage source  current flow causes the corrosion  ie me shortign them together via ground
17:28 eadthem electrolosys is when its applyed externaly
17:28 injektion ok
17:29 killakee oh man... no captainsblog yet ?
17:29 killakee wow
17:29 killakee hope he dosent have problems
17:29 killakee :)
17:32 SparkyProjects killakee, read back (5:22:33 PM) mashpriborintorg: I have news for the captains blog: Chris is uploading it, but still around 140 min left
17:32 killakee wow
17:32 killakee :)
17:33 killakee youtube is realy fast XD
17:36 mashpriborintorg No matter, as I'm bored and lacking the captain's blog, I'll kill a rabbit :p
17:37 CaptainNiobe i'm watching youtube lol
17:40 tonsofpcs mmm, hassenfeffer (no, I have no clue how to properly spell it)
17:41 tonsofpcs 140 minutues left to upload? is it a 3 hour captains blog?
17:41 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: rabbit pepper stew?
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17:49 injektion Awesome http://www.physorg.com/news122819670.html
17:49 BotSteve Title: Electronic tattoo display runs on blood
17:50 SparkyProjects The maximum length of a YT vid is 12 hours, that must be a nightmare to upload :P
17:50 SparkyProjects Longest one i know of is 10 hours
17:50 Seroster =)
17:51 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SgDS-16UFA  < quality game there
17:51 BotSteve Title: Amiga Longplay [254] Lemmings (Part 1 of 2) - YouTube
17:52 * wannabe1987 is back
17:52 CaptainNiobe wb, wannabe :)
17:52 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=10+hour&amp;oq=10+hour&amp;aq=f&amp;aqi=g10&amp;aql=&amp;gs_sm=e&amp;gs_upl=28672l30688l0l31110l7l7l0l2l2l0l172l640l1.4l5l0
17:52 SparkyProjects O.O  10 hours of Nyan ?
17:52 BotSteve Title: 10 hour - YouTube
17:52 wannabe1987 sndwrx, your dip sounds amazing....did you make it?
17:52 wannabe1987 yes SparkyProjects, it will kill you
17:52 wannabe1987 thanks CaptainNiobe
17:53 CaptainNiobe :)
17:53 SparkyProjects 10 seconds of Nyan will kill me :P
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17:53 Seroster lol
17:53 sndwrx wannabe1987: no.  but, suggested serving is two table spoons.  i ate a half pound.
17:53 Seroster Nyan is cute in VERY limited ammounts
17:54 * CaptainNiobe hums nyan song just for SparkyProjects
17:54 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KaOrSuWZeM
17:54 sndwrx wannabe1987: and about a half pound of wheat thins, too.  versus "about 16 crackers" serving suggestion.
17:54 BotSteve Title: 12 Hours of White Noise (Static) in Stereo. Favorite it for the future. Studying Concentration Sleep - YouTube
17:54 wannabe1987 where did you get it?
17:54 Monkeh SparkyProjects: White noise? Is that politicians talking, then?
17:55 Sgt_Lemming sndwrx, do you know what white noise actually consists?
17:55 Sgt_Lemming of*
17:55 * sndwrx redirects to SparkyProjects
17:55 sndwrx wannabe1987: Walmart, I think.
17:55 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects even
17:56 wannabe1987 ewwww
17:56 wannabe1987 i wonder if meijer has any....
17:56 wannabe1987 was it in like the deli?
17:56 killakee ah the sound of rain :)
17:56 killakee nice one sparky
17:56 killakee :)
17:56 sndwrx yeah, but it's probably made in the same factory and rebranded.
17:56 Sgt_Lemming killakee, rain is close to white noise
17:56 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, no answer?
17:56 Seroster nine hours in there is subliminal messages
17:56 Seroster are*
17:57 SparkyProjects A  lot of frequencies superimposed at a guess
17:57 SparkyProjects You can get white noise from a bad junction in a transistor
17:57 * wannabe1987 knits and rocks
17:57 Sgt_Lemming white noise on a radio receiver SparkyProjects
17:57 Sgt_Lemming when it's detuned
17:58 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: The sound of the universe?
17:58 killakee Sgt_Lemming: i know :)
17:58 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, need more info :-P
17:58 tonsofpcs white noise has a very specific spectral content
17:58 tonsofpcs as does pink noise
17:58 killakee pink nois ?
17:58 killakee e
17:59 Sgt_Lemming white noise theoertically covers the whole spectrum equally tonsofpcs
17:59 tonsofpcs white noise is equal power across the spectrum, pink noise power is inversely proportional to frequency
18:00 tonsofpcs err, power ddensity*
18:01 wannabe1987 sndwrx: http://tastykitchen.com/recipes/appetizers-and-snacks/roasted-red-pepper-and-feta-dip/  this, but with asiago instead of feta?
18:01 BotSteve Title: Roasted Red Pepper and Feta Dip | Tasty Kitchen: A Happy Recipe Community!
18:01 tonsofpcs pink noise is used for audio EQ setup because it is logarithmically flat
18:01 Seroster /kick tonsofpcs aww come on with that damn inversly proportional to power density pseudoscience
18:02 tonsofpcs Seroster: right, they both have equal power across the band defined, depending on how you locally measure power ;)
18:03 Seroster Mind you I am not an audiophile, take your power bands and stuff it 0P
18:03 Seroster =P*
18:03 Cprossu morning everyone
18:04 CaptainNiobe morning Cprossu :)
18:04 wannabe1987 afternoon Cprossu
18:05 tonsofpcs Seroster: the usefulness of pinknoise is easy.  1) connect pinknoise to house mixer in a venue, 2) open a reference mic 3) increase level until you find feedback 4) reduce associated frequency in EQ, goto 3.  This makes any speaker system both a linear reproduction and (more importantly) gives you the maximum possible headroom to avoid feedback
18:05 SparkyProjects Evening Cprossu
18:05 Seroster ffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu =P
18:06 tonsofpcs you use whitenoise to 'break in' your brand new speakers at 150% of the power you plan on driving them because you want to destroy your $20k speakers that you just got for your home audiophile environment :-p
18:06 Cprossu lol
18:06 Cprossu <3 pink noise
18:06 tonsofpcs (white noise [or an approximation thereof] is used in sirens in some parts of the world because it's very easy for someone to pinpoint where it is coming from)
18:07 tonsofpcs and, most importantly, brown noise is a southpark construct.
18:07 tonsofpcs (not to be confused with brownian noise)
18:07 Cprossu can't say I would ever buy a set of 20K speakers though
18:07 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brownian_noise
18:07 BotSteve Title: Brownian noise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:08 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: see 10 seconds prior ^ :)
18:08 Cprossu I wonder, is altec pro making theater speakers again?
18:08 SparkyProjects ah
18:08 tonsofpcs Cprossu: probably.
18:08 wannabe1987 SNC is doing the grinch song :D
18:09 tonsofpcs we have four genelecs at work.  I want to buy a fifth and make a 5 ".1" mix room with them (there's no real need for a sub when your speakers are flat to 14Hz)
18:09 Cprossu damn not entirely
18:09 Cprossu http://altecpro.com/products/fullrange/index.htm
18:09 BotSteve Title: Altec Lansing Professional Audio - Full Range Speakers
18:09 Cprossu ^ still wouldn't mind a pair of those though
18:09 tonsofpcs I'm happy with these pios.
18:10 tonsofpcs I do need to find a better way to raise the rears (I added a couch that has a cushion a few inches taller than the table they're on -- they're currently stacked on the foam they came in)  and probably should buy a true center (with uptilt)
18:12 Sgt_Lemming for a full spectrum speaker that's a reasonably lumpy frequency response chart
18:15 Seroster Fan/blower 20cm diameter output, 168watts. Can anyone give me a guesstiamte on the cubic meters per minute?
18:16 Sgt_Lemming voltage?
18:16 Seroster If it works I'll get some pipe or hose and hook it to a burn barrel, most people do it with a vacuum cleaner motor, this bad boy got a bit more... umph
18:16 Seroster 230
18:16 tonsofpcs wait, genelec suggests a sub?
18:16 Sgt_Lemming probably 500 or 600 cfm
18:16 Seroster nice
18:16 Seroster .c 500cfm to m3
18:16 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
18:17 tonsofpcs http://www.genelec.com/products/2-way-monitors/8050a/
18:17 BotSteve Title: Genelec 8050A - Powerful Wideband Bi-Amplified Monitoring System
18:17 tonsofpcs I think we have 2 of those and 2 of the 8040a
18:18 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, about 15 m³/m
18:19 Sgt_Lemming Seroster http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=16-1395&amp;catname=electric
18:19 BotSteve Title: Surplus Center Item Detail
18:20 Seroster Right
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18:20 Sgt_Lemming the fan you have is it axial or radial?
18:21 Cprossu that reminds me of something scary tonsofpcs
18:21 Seroster http://www.luftbutiken.se/547-222-large/ostberg-kanalflakt-ck-200-b-262l-s.jpg
18:21 Sgt_Lemming ah
18:21 Sgt_Lemming radial
18:21 Cprossu I've got a customer that has a pair of JBL 4350's in storage
18:21 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yea, and?
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18:22 BotSteve TOASTY!
18:22 BotSteve TOASTY!
18:22 Cprossu the things take up most of the space
18:22 Seroster WHOA
18:22 Seroster 250-270l/s
18:22 Sgt_Lemming that's a little bit of air
18:23 Sgt_Lemming 16.2 m³/m
18:23 tonsofpcs we have some relatively nice speakers mounted on wheels stuck in our production storage area.  not that big.
18:24 Seroster Now
18:24 Seroster My apartment is 40sqm
18:24 Seroster And 2 meters ceiling, making 80m3
18:24 CaptainNiobe i think it's time for bed, it's getting early... lol... 'night all... :)
18:24 Sgt_Lemming Seroster http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?item=16-1442&amp;catname=electric
18:24 BotSteve Title: Surplus Center Item Detail
18:24 Seroster I can replace all the air in here in less than ten minutes =D
18:24 tonsofpcs we also have some not-quite-so-nice but still some big name stuck up in the rafters on top on 2x4s
18:25 Cprossu the one chance I had to own a really large set of speakers I decided to make money on instead
18:25 Cprossu glad I did.
18:26 * wannabe1987 found star wars ep IV on tv
18:26 tonsofpcs you mean "Star Wars"
18:26 tonsofpcs ?
18:26 Seroster I can replace all the air in here in less than ten minutes =D  < Is that a correc assumption?
18:26 Seroster Assuming I move no new air, only the old
18:27 wannabe1987 im typing one handed with knitting in the other hand, so yes
18:27 tonsofpcs (there is one movie named "Star Wars", there were two sequels, neither of which is named "Star Wars")
18:28 wannabe1987 the guide says Star Wars episode IV but then it says 1997 behind it ..... its not on yet, its fulllll of commercials blech
18:28 * Toast-Away is sad from lack of CB :P
18:28 Toast-Away .seen CaptainBoden
18:28 BotSteve Toast-Away: I last saw CaptainBoden 19.84 hours ago at 2011-12-17 22:38:46 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:28:57 UTC
18:29 Toast-Away Thanks BotSteve
18:29 BotSteve No problem, Toast-Away
18:29 wannabe1987 toast, i was  watching snc live....
18:29 wannabe1987 on pbs
18:29 Toast-Away Okay, cool...
18:30 Toast-Away OH, SNC, not SNL...
18:30 Toast-Away Awesome! :D
18:30 wannabe1987 lol
18:30 wannabe1987 mhm
18:30 Toast-Away Where, were they ing Grand Rapids?
18:30 Cprossu lol
18:30 wannabe1987 no, idk
18:30 wannabe1987 its c3-po
18:30 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs, its on spike
18:31 tonsofpcs most importantly: Han shot first.
18:31 wannabe1987 lol ok
18:31 Seroster Erm.. He didnt
18:31 * tonsofpcs wishes his cable box looped through his PC so he didn't have to switch inputs
18:32 * Toast-Away goes away again..
18:32 * Cprossu wonders if the pair of Altec model 19's he sold that guy ever made it to Japan
18:32 wannabe1987 awww
18:32 wannabe1987 EatingToast, don't go away!!! :P
18:32 wannabe1987 its only 1/2 hr into starwars, too :D  my brother would be *so* jealous....hehehehe
18:33 dbshortwave someone setting up a repeater on the streams scanner
18:34 Cprossu worldwide friendship net?
18:34 dbshortwave i think so
18:34 EatingToast So about at the part where they are just getting picked out by Luke's uncle?
18:34 dbshortwave some of the k-beeps are sweet
18:35 EatingToast Fine Kelly...
18:35 dbshortwave its like a backwards door bell
18:35 wannabe1987 they are in luke's uncles place, r2d2 just showed them a message (not sure whose, tbh) talking about obiwan kenobi
18:36 wannabe1987 for being a starwars fan, i suck :P
18:36 Toastdude Princess Leia (failed spelling...) was the girl ing the hologram
18:36 Sgt_Lemming you spelt it fine Toastdude
18:36 wannabe1987 you spelled leia correctly
18:36 Sgt_Lemming and Princess
18:36 Toastdude Oh, okay
18:37 dbshortwave whats with the datastreams?
18:37 tonsofpcs don't cross them
18:37 dbshortwave that a crappy computer interfearing witht he scanner?
18:37 Toastdude Lol
18:38 * tonsofpcs is now known as Eatingtons
18:38 Toastdude Lol
18:38 * Toastdude is now known as Eatingtonsofpcs
18:38 * Electricguy found a american RockStar can at the nomstore :3
18:39 wannabe1987 lol
18:40 Poop Oh
18:40 wannabe1987 ....aw shit, he went through the digestive track again
18:40 wannabe1987 (sorry, couldn't resist)
18:40 * masterofmonks casts dismiss silliness.
18:41 wannabe1987 oh, mom is here.  oops
18:41 Frooping Darn.....
18:41 Toastdude Oh, Why does CaptainNiobe have Op status? jw
18:41 ewfling_poo ask Seroster
18:41 masterofmonks Ask Seroster
18:41 wannabe1987 experiment via Seroster
18:41 Seroster Cus we all love her?
18:42 Toastdude Okay, no disagreement there.
18:42 Seroster We dont have a lot of active australian ops. I wanted to test what would happen if I opped her
18:43 wannabe1987 lem is more active than she is sometimes....(sorry dear)
18:43 masterofmonks "Why am I in a t-shirt? Because this is the Slingshot Channel."
18:44 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r1uu6CoD_g
18:44 BotSteve Title: Shrapnel firing slingshot! Plus XMas Giveaway. - YouTube
18:44 ewfling_poo not a whole lot
18:44 masterofmonks Seroster: She is going to go all Aphex Twin - Come To Daddy on you.
18:44 Toastdude Do you ever sleep masterofmonks?
18:44 masterofmonks Toastdude: Yes.
18:45 Toastdude Okay lol
18:45 Seroster Every other year
18:45 masterofmonks But only when nobody will notice.
18:45 * Cprossu has been in this irc room for years and didn't even get a lousy t-shirt lol
18:45 Toastdude Lol
18:46 Sgt_Lemming that guy is hardcore
18:46 Sgt_Lemming standing in the snow in a t-shirt...
18:46 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: That is about comparable to what I do in the winter.
18:46 Seroster I wouldnt wanna LAY DOWN in the snow in a thsirt
18:47 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: that's hardcoore for you?
18:47 Seroster Want real scandinavian hardcore?
18:47 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyUf7r_9yNs&amp;list=FLpjxegyP9fdYi8ygezw11Bg&amp;index=3&amp;feature=plpp_video
18:47 BotSteve Title: På tynn sjøis 2 (on thin sea ice 2), Sandefjord in Norway - YouTube
18:47 masterofmonks It is around 20 degrees durring the late winter inside the building I work in and I am in a t-shirt and wet.
18:47 Cprossu bbl brunch time
18:48 Toastdude Bye Andrew
18:48 NeWtoz oooo masterofmonks in a wet t-shirt
18:48 tonsofpcs lol
18:48 Toastdude That'd really suck MoM....
18:48 masterofmonks NeWtoz: It's a black t-shirt.
18:48 NeWtoz heh
18:49 masterofmonks Toastdude: no, that doesn't suck.
18:49 masterofmonks I will describe suck for you.
18:50 masterofmonks Fifteen degree weather, traveling 90 miles an hour on a motorcycle and get caught in a thunderstorm.
18:50 Toastdude ....
18:50 Toastdude Experience?
18:50 masterofmonks Yes.
18:50 wannabe1987 brrrr
18:50 Toastdude Wow... THAT'D really suck...
18:50 masterofmonks Oh and I still had 30 miles to go before home.
18:51 Toastdude So 20 minutes out in the rain in 15 degree weather travelling 90mph?
18:52 masterofmonks Little more since I had to slow down after the first few minutes because the road was icing.
18:52 masterofmonks Also that was right at the Florida Georga line.
18:56 tonsofpcs ice on the road in fl/ga can't be good
18:56 tonsofpcs do they even have chains/studs for tow trucks?
18:56 masterofmonks Tow truck, sure.
18:57 masterofmonks But here in North Florida we get freezes more than you would be led to believe.
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18:58 Cprossu_kindle woot
18:58 Cprossu_kindle Still didnt get irrsi workimg
18:59 Cprossu_kindle *working
19:00 masterofmonks tonsofpcs:  however we don't generally get mroe than a few mm of ice on the roads, not so much of a big deal for a car, but a mtorcycle being much lighter....
19:01 Cprossu_kindle havent tried ssh over 3g
19:02 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: the idiots around here will 'plow' ice and salt snow.... It's freakin' upstate NY, you'd think they'd know better!
19:02 tonsofpcs (when you salt snow, it melts, and then often refreezes because it's still cold enough to freeze salt water outside)
19:02 dbshortwave lol most the time yes
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19:03 tonsofpcs that said, I have 4WD and usually snow tiles (I'm keeping them off this year, seems like it'll be a mild winter and I only have one season left of use in my current set)
19:03 Toastdude PONKY!
19:03 tonsofpcs *tires
19:04 wannabe1987 hi Ponko
19:05 Cprossu_kindle .weather 85021
19:05 masterofmonks I was wondering what a snow tile was.
19:05 BotSteve Cloudy, 53.6℉ (12℃), 30.09in (1016mb), Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - KPHX 18:51Z
19:05 Cprossu_kindle and wet =p
19:05 * tonsofpcs has driven from albany to the NJ border on I-87 with over 6" of snow on the road the whole way... northbound was closed for plowing, southbound they didn't even get on to close it off.  I had trucks following me because I was carving the path in the snow
19:06 wannabe1987 what do you drive?
19:06 tonsofpcs Rav4
19:06 tonsofpcs about to hit 100k miles
19:07 wannabe1987 nice
19:07 wannabe1987 year?
19:07 tonsofpcs 2003
19:08 Ponko hi peeps
19:08 Cprossu_kindle .tfw 12345
19:08 BotSteve 23°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Schenectady, NY!  'Why do I live here?'
19:08 wannabe1987 lol
19:08 egrsteve morning all
19:08 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
19:08 Cprossu_kindle hahaahahahaha
19:08 BotSteve At 11:49Z, Cprossu asked me to tell egrsteve For future OLD air handler/rooftop configuration before the new stuff -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fka2VDrmFIk&amp;feature=BFa&amp;list=UUbaAyXYMnbQu0BGGPbvxHsw&amp;lf=plcp
19:08 wannabe1987 hi steve
19:08 Sgt_Lemming .tfw brisbane
19:08 BotSteve 64°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Brisbane, AS!  'An Eskimo would beat your ass to be here'
19:09 Cprossu_kindle hi egrsteve found a goodie for you!
19:09 Ponko .weather Kelso
19:09 BotSteve NWWK: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
19:09 Ponko fail
19:09 Ponko .weather Edinburgh
19:09 BotSteve Clear ☼, 0℃, 1014mb, Light breeze 6kt (↑) - EGPH 18:50Z
19:10 Ponko pfffffffffff
19:10 Sgt_Lemming .weather ybbn
19:10 Cprossu_kindle lol.
19:10 Seroster .weather kristianstad
19:10 BotSteve Cloudy, 18℃, 1015mb, Light breeze 5kt (↑) - YBBN 19:00Z
19:10 Seroster .weather kiruna
19:10 BotSteve ESUK: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
19:10 BotSteve Cloudy, 5℃, 977mb, Moderate breeze 14kt (↑) - ESMK 18:20Z
19:10 wannabe1987 .weather tg
19:10 wannabe1987 .weather tgg
19:10 BotSteve Clear ☼, 28℃, 1010mb, Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - DXXX 19:00Z
19:10 BotSteve Cloudy, 39.2℉ (4℃), 30.11in (1016mb), Moderate breeze 11kt (↑) - KGRR 18:53Z
19:10 Ponko .weather Pasedena
19:10 BotSteve Clear ☼, 55.4℉ (13℃), 30.15in (1018mb), Light air 3kt (↻) - KBUR 18:53Z
19:10 Seroster Let him catch up now will ya?
19:10 Ponko quiet you
19:11 Ponko lol
19:11 Seroster Damn that arrow to the knee meme is annoying.
19:12 mantere i don't know, i liked it at first, but then i took arrow in the knee
19:13 Ponko i think Syphon Filter is a pretty cool guy, eh kills people and doesn't afraid of anything.
19:13 eadthem wth happend to phisicsduck's channal page
19:13 Cprossu_kindle the condensing unit for the gym was a decently nice looking trane too @egrsteve
19:14 Toastdude What do you mean eadthem
19:14 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/user/Physicsduck/
19:14 BotSteve Title: Physicsduck's Channel - YouTube
19:14 Electricguy .tfw Kalmar
19:14 BotSteve 34°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Kalmar, !  'You think this is cold? Have you been to upstate New York?'
19:15 Toastdude I don't see naything wrong with it...
19:15 Toastdude *anything
19:15 Cprossu_kindle he probably means its in super retard view now?
19:15 Ponko ah Cprossu_kindle is his Roger Hoy self again being that he's here he's there and i'm not aloud to sware
19:15 Cprossu_kindle llike the way google wants to ruin my interface
19:16 Cprossu_kindle on my gmail
19:16 wannabe1987 there.  scarf done :D
19:16 eadthem channel comments are gon profile info is gon  related channels are gon   recent activity is gon
19:17 Cprossu_kindle food time
19:17 egrsteve is the new captains blog up yet?
19:17 killakee egrsteve no
19:17 killakee but soon
19:17 egrsteve last I hear there was 2 more hours of upload
19:18 egrsteve as it's an hour long blog
19:18 wannabe1987 o dear
19:18 killakee jupp
19:18 killakee hopes it gets done befor i must go to bed :P
19:18 NeWtoz hopefully spies don't zap his modem
19:20 killakee lols
19:23 Cprossu_kindle it could happen.......again.
19:23 Cprossu_kindle damn pos smc modem
19:24 egrsteve i bet he's uploading from geekhouse
19:24 egrsteve unless he has a smc there too
19:25 eadthem so is nobody else getting this crap   http://final.servegame.com/public/badyoutube.png
19:25 eadthem the main channel is fine
19:25 eadthem but the captans blog channel  videos wont even load on
19:26 eadthem i mean its got all the makeings of another google gui test
19:26 eadthem cept no optout button
19:29 Toastdude That's what I'm seeing, eadthem. I agree, it's kinda stupid....
19:30 eadthem first google  then gmail  now youtube
19:30 Toastdude egrsteve: So 2 more hours?
19:30 Toastdude They're all Google things...
19:30 eadthem google seams to of forgoten that they can be overthrown
19:31 sndwrx Or you can get a greasemonkey script with a new style sheet.
19:31 * egrsteve beats head on sound console
19:32 * Ponko treats egrsteve's head wounds that follow
19:33 egrsteve fortunatly it's just a little 40 channel
19:33 egrsteve so maximum head beating area
19:33 Ponko sharpe edges
19:33 eadthem what i dont get is why is it just phisicsducks channel
19:33 Ponko why did i spell that with an e
19:33 Ponko o_O
19:34 wannabe1987 i said it as if you wrote "sharpie" as well :P
19:34 Ponko lol
19:37 Toastdude My channel is the same, eadthem
19:37 eadthem link
19:38 Seroster Wheres the fucking cpt blg
19:38 Toastdude Still uploading
19:38 mashpriborintorg still uploading Seroster
19:39 Seroster So...
19:39 Toastdude You want my channel eadthem?
19:39 eadthem ya i was trying to figure out if it was a fuckup or if they intend on trashing the place :p
19:39 Toastdude http://www.youtube.com/user/toastdude1212
19:39 BotSteve Title: Toastdude1212's Channel - YouTube
19:40 Ponko oh no
19:40 Toastdude What?
19:41 eadthem wow   ya know the only thing they ahd to do was remove the ad that takes up 1/2 the video list
19:41 Ponko nothing toasty ;) just messing
19:42 Toastdude You poopy! :P
19:42 Ponko oh shush
19:42 Toastdude :P
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19:45 eadthem you can always click "Edit Channel" and switch back to the old look in the appearance tab.
19:45 Toastdude Yeah, I know
19:46 Ponko damn xmas is hear fast
19:46 Ponko where did last year go
19:46 Ponko seemed to FLY by
19:46 Toastdude Well, more like orbited
19:48 Ponko oh yeah smart ass
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19:48 Ponko what i meant was that the year seemed to go by very quickly
19:48 wannabe1987 hi Obtuse-bot
19:49 Ponko you know the saying "time flies when you're having fun"
19:49 Obtuse sup
19:50 wannabe1987 nm, you?
19:50 wannabe1987 you surviving allllll this snow we've been getting :p
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19:53 Toastdude wannabe
19:53 wannabe1987 Toastdude
19:53 Toastdude Hi!
19:53 wannabe1987 hi
19:53 Ponko wow the Colts are WINNING a game
19:53 Toastdude Really??
19:53 Toastdude How is that possible?
19:54 Ponko yep
19:54 Obtuse i'm too lazy to move into my new room
19:54 Obtuse moving into a room with carpet
19:54 Ponko Obtuse least the bed doesn't move
19:55 Obtuse well i have to take the bed apart still
19:55 Ponko Toastdude: don't worry it's still the 3rd 1/4
19:55 Ponko but i'd do that just to be on carpet
19:55 Toastdude Oh, okay. There's still time
19:55 Obtuse i like it for sound reasons.
19:55 wannabe1987 i'm too lazy to move everything else into my room :P
19:55 Obtuse wood reflects like crazy
19:56 Obtuse at least the way this room is configured
19:56 Obtuse right now i use headphones so i don't have to bother with the issues
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19:58 Toastdude douglas!
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20:00 Toastdude KATE!
20:00 wannabe1987 hi kate!
20:00 Katemonster ohai
20:01 wannabe1987 off to choir and then singing in church....bbl
20:02 Toastdude Bye
20:02 Ponko welp Katemonsters (i know she doesn't give a shit) team (Seattle Seahawks) are doing the Lions a favour and beating the Bears
20:02 Katemonster my team?
20:02 Katemonster i don't think they are my team.
20:03 Ponko as i said i know you don't give a shit lol
20:03 Ponko but that's in your area of the US
20:04 Katemonster ...ish
20:04 Ponko ANYWAY
20:04 Katemonster seattle is a 5 hour drive from here
20:04 Ponko well what state you in
20:04 Katemonster the same.
20:04 Ponko would you rather i call you a Seahawk or twilight state girl
20:05 Katemonster that depends; would you rather be shot in the knee, or the kidney?
20:05 Katemonster :D
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20:05 Ponko hmm
20:05 Ponko kidney is a vital organ but my knee keeps me moving
20:05 Ponko i'd rather be shot in the kidney
20:05 Katemonster also possible i hit a major artery around the knee and you bleed to death anyway.
20:06 Ponko but only if wear kevlar
20:07 Ponko moving on
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20:09 BotSteve Spatula.
20:09 Toastdude Welcome back masterofmonks
20:09 masterofmonks Thanks.
20:10 * Ponko bows
20:16 Toastdude Bitte
20:16 Toastdude ...
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20:21 Hackbat lol
20:21 Toastdude Welcome back, again
20:21 Ponko please what toasty?
20:21 Hackbat my little nephew is making a from drive a telphone
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20:21 Toastdude what Ponko?
20:22 Ponko you said Bitte
20:22 Cprossu_kindle hrmmmmmm new client time
20:22 Ponko that's german for please Toastdude
20:22 Cprossu_kindle trying out wslrc
20:23 Toastdude Sorry, Gern geschehen
20:23 Ponko ;)
20:23 Cprossu_kindle perhaps i can read pm's now
20:23 Cprossu_kindle ewwwwww emoteicons
20:23 Cprossu_kindle on this one
20:24 Ponko google translating are we Toastdude lol
20:25 Toastdude Maybe...
20:25 Toastdude Everyone says "bitte" after I say danke....
20:26 Cprossu_kindle looks like ill have to download it and host it myself so i can recode it a bit
20:26 Ponko bitteschon toastdude
20:27 Ponko well that's here you go if i remember rightly can't remeber
20:30 Cprossu ^ Y you disonnect?!
20:30 Cprossu *looks*
20:30 Cprossu oh.
20:30 Ponko NFC North is crap today
20:30 Ponko brb
20:33 tonsofpcs btw, http://americancensorship.org/
20:33 BotSteve Title: Stop American Censorship
20:34 masterofmonks .c 356mm to inches
20:34 BotSteve 14.015748 inches
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20:49 dbshortwave yay cookies
20:53 Ponko how typical
20:53 Ponko NeWtoz new years eve will be insignificant now
20:54 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdVKAtQkcBI
20:54 BotSteve Title: 2 ohm PA style audio rig - YouTube
20:56 Ponko Dolphins feat will never be achieved again
20:57 Seroster Hey
20:57 Seroster What was captains old camera?
20:57 Seroster Canon.... what?
21:03 Av_Nekoroms was it sd-4000 orsomething
21:05 killaway hrmf
21:05 killaway bed time :(
21:05 killaway^ZzzZ night yall
21:06 Av_Nekoroms yeh it would be time to sleep
21:07 Ponko welp that was NEVER on was it
21:08 * Ponko is referring to the GB defeat at KC
21:08 Ponko of course that was going to happen
21:08 Ponko interim coach new QB WHAT ELSE would of happened
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21:22 Seroster Can you tell the colour of a laser pointer by the nm?
21:22 Seroster What colour is 660nm?
21:23 Toastdude Blue I would think
21:24 Seroster '-'
21:24 Seroster Its a legal laser, but I hope it isnt green since greens have a bad rep here
21:26 SparkyProjects 660nm is red
21:26 Seroster =D
21:26 Seroster Great
21:27 Toastdude ...I keep thinking of light backwards...
21:27 Ponko NeWtoz: can this day get ANY WORSE for the NFC North
21:28 SparkyProjects 532 nm is green
21:28 SparkyProjects 473 nm is blue
21:29 Seroster Dude
21:29 Seroster You need a girlfriend
21:29 Toastdude I think the higher numbers mean higher energy, but if I actually thought, I would know...
21:29 * Seroster pushes SparkyProjects towards CaptainNiobe|AFK
21:30 SparkyProjects :P
21:30 tonsofpcs anyone know a Mike in GR who would be calling a tech radio show? ( live.twit.tv )
21:30 SparkyProjects Seroster, if i want to know something, i look it up, so stop being so lazy :P
21:33 Ponko hahaha lol
21:33 Ponko .yt Burger King Safety Dance
21:33 BotSteve Ponko: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKT3dXaijXg
21:34 Toastdude ..
21:35 Ponko that's epic
21:37 Seroster But I love you SparkyProjects
21:37 Seroster Charging a 17ah 12v leadacid (sealed) battery. Do I hook 12v+ to red and black to black? - How do I know when to stop?
21:38 Seroster And what is worst case scenario if I don't stop?
21:38 Seroster How much current do I want to give it?
21:38 SparkyProjects Depends what voltage you apply, and yes, red to red, black to black
21:41 SparkyProjects A fully charged battery off load will be around 12.6Volts, you can apply the same voltage forever in theory and always keep it charged.
21:42 SparkyProjects Daily charging (cycling) can be 14 volts, float is about 13.4V
21:42 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead%E2%80%93acid_battery
21:42 SparkyProjects See Voltages for common  usages
21:42 BotSteve Title: Lead–acid battery - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:46 masterofmonks Quick poll, how many astronomy enthusiests do we have here?
21:46 Cprossu enough
21:47 * Cprossu still wants to someday make his orion 10" dob a goto
21:47 Cprossu Since getting it I never look at clouds and atmospheric distortion the same
21:47 injektion I changed the bulbs in the overhead light and I already feel less depressed
21:48 injektion <3 GE Reveal bulbs
21:48 * Cprossu is doing a massive documentation search on his computer, has to decide what to keep on his kindle
21:50 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | The name's Bond...Ionic Bond.  Taken, not shared. | Announcing #tgg:astronomy
21:51 Cprossu another channel lol
21:51 Seroster Why?
21:51 tonsofpcs heh
21:51 masterofmonks Dude we have channel progeny.
21:51 Cprossu I think this channel has too many forks.
21:51 Cprossu xD
21:52 Toastdude We're geeks, why not?
21:52 Toastdude :P
21:52 Seroster Now working on #tgg:math #tgg:electricity #tgg:highvoltage #tgg:stream #Tgg:streamcommentary #Tgg:gasleakgossip and #tgg:whenisthenewcaptainsblogcomingout?
21:52 tonsofpcs lol
21:52 tonsofpcs #tgg:seriouslydoweneedthismany
21:52 masterofmonks Good for you Seroster
21:52 tonsofpcs #tgg:evenmorechannelsthanbefore
21:53 Cprossu I think we have too many channels for just 72 users
21:53 * Seroster giggles
21:53 tonsofpcs you know you could just go to ##electronics if you want electronics help....
21:53 tonsofpcs you really just need #tgg, #tgg-offtopic (and I think most of this chat probably belongs there), and #tgg-nsfw
21:53 Cprossu keep it up and it'll be like TV's, we'll eventually reach and surpas 1 channel/user and the channels will outnumber the users!
21:54 Cprossu *surpass
21:54 Seroster Tgg-offtopic? I'd argue that not even that is nessecary
21:54 Cprossu Seroster I think that's off topic
21:54 Seroster Oh fuck you =P
21:54 Cprossu come on that was funny!
21:54 Seroster Slightly yes ^^
21:55 tonsofpcs Seroster: eh, Cap mentioned a while ago that this channel had way too much off-topic chat, and I must agree.  Banter unrelated to tgg should be elsewhere.  This is why #math has #not-math , etc.
21:55 Seroster But #math got 500+ users
21:55 tonsofpcs (we even used to have a ####linux on freenode [in freenode terms, that's 'about ##linux' and ##linux is 'about linux'])
21:55 Cprossu tonsofpcs: do you think I need the AN/FSQ-7 (aka SAGE) "Theory of Programming" manual on my kindle?
21:56 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/qwly3.jpg
21:56 Seroster Most of the time when you bring up a valid topic the topic is discussed, when people are bored they go offtopic, wich is way better than an hour of silence.
21:56 tonsofpcs Cprossu: do you have enough space for all of them anyway?
21:56 tonsofpcs Seroster: it is, until you decide you need to go through logs
21:57 Cprossu I think I do, I've got ~3gb to play with I think tonsofpcs
21:57 Cprossu as a pdf that manual is only 74mb
21:58 Cprossu I wonder how big it will be after converting
21:58 Cprossu (yay calibre)
21:58 tonsofpcs nokia VHS deck? cool
21:58 masterofmonks However when you have two or more valid topics at once sifting through the detritus to the one you are following is a bit difficult in a singular channel. And unfortunately it often seems that there are multiple topics at once.
21:58 masterofmonks And then fast spaces of BS.
21:58 masterofmonks Vast*
21:59 Cprossu masterofmonks it's just like NASA and how their audio feeds worked, it's fine ^_^
21:59 tonsofpcs the issue is people want to continue their BS talk when on-topic chat comes up.
21:59 tonsofpcs Cprossu: huh?
21:59 Seroster So when you got two valid topics it STILL wouldnt work with a #tgg:offtopic
21:59 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdVKAtQkcBI
21:59 BotSteve Title: 2 ohm PA style audio rig - YouTube
21:59 Cprossu tonsofpcs: they routed multiple channels of audio at the same time through the headset system
21:59 Cprossu and everyone was talking at the same time
21:59 Cprossu you either got used to it or you had a psychotic episode
21:59 tonsofpcs heh
22:00 masterofmonks Right.....
22:01 tonsofpcs Cprossu: well, most production intercom systems support a minimum of two channels.  Each beltpack/intercom station can select one or both (oftentimes this selection is internal, depending on the unit)
22:01 tonsofpcs fancy two-muff headsets can have one comm channel in one year, one in the other
22:01 dbshortwave mmmm com headsets
22:02 tonsofpcs *ear
22:03 Cprossu oh tonsofpcs
22:03 Cprossu had someone stop me in a parking lot today
22:03 Cprossu told me my kindle was going to give me cancer
22:03 Cprossu hahahahahahahah
22:03 Monkeh Cprossu: And his microwave isn't?
22:03 tonsofpcs did you tell him that he was going to get cancer too because he got too close and now it's too late so he may as well live it up and get one?
22:04 Cprossu I was about to describe the inverse square law when he told me he had to go
22:04 tonsofpcs heh
22:04 Cprossu though that's not the weirdest thing that's happened to me in a parking lot
22:05 Cprossu I was at a grocery store pushing my cart to my car
22:05 tonsofpcs next time just go with the "oh no, now i've exposed you, it's too late, you've got the cancer seed now, you may as well get one yourself then and at least have fun"
22:05 Cprossu and this dude ran out of nowhere and stopped my cart before it touched my car
22:05 Cprossu "You can't let the cart touch your car! you'll be electrocuted I saws it man!"
22:06 tonsofpcs lol
22:06 Electricguy We can dance if we want to
22:06 Electricguy We can leave your friends behind
22:06 Electricguy 'Cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance,
22:06 Electricguy Well they're no friends of mine!!!
22:06 Electricguy XD
22:06 tonsofpcs *safety dances*
22:06 Electricguy lol :D
22:06 Monkeh Cprossu: Bwahaha.
22:07 Cprossu It's funny the shit that happens when one drinks paint thinner I suppose
22:07 injektion How do we allow these people to live
22:07 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIB2gxmFR-A
22:07 BotSteve Title: The Safety Dance - 2008 Video - YouTube
22:08 Cprossu I told the nice man I would be very careful and he left lol
22:08 Electricguy cheezy video XD
22:08 Electricguy nice remix of the song though
22:16 tonsofpcs hmmmm, dinner time
22:32 Seroster FINALLY
22:33 Seroster the blog is up
22:33 tonsofpcs BotSteve: link please?
22:33 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viXQhy8tRY0
22:33 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 12-17-11 Security Cameras and Stomper - YouTube
22:33 tonsofpcs thanks Seroster ;)
22:34 tonsofpcs lol bill
22:34 injektion Did anyone else get the HTML5 YT player?
22:35 tonsofpcs no
22:36 injektion It's random when I get it
22:37 injektion (The HTML 5 player is worse than the flash one)
22:40 injektion I applaud the effort of YT trying to ditch flash but it's got some glitches
22:41 injektion Like this http://goput.it/s4v.png
22:41 tonsofpcs "this is intentionally being a PITA" lol
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22:49 tonsofpcs egrsteve: the 6801 appears to be SDI DAs
22:49 tonsofpcs (distribution amps)
22:50 tonsofpcs oh, that's a sony console!
22:51 tonsofpcs egrsteve: yea, that's controlled by a BVE (or similar) edit controller to match your audio transition with your video transition on an A/B roll edit
22:51 tonsofpcs (I think there's a BVE-2000 in the shelves there)
22:52 tonsofpcs egrsteve: that's a Panasonic deck on the back of a Sony camera, there's two different standard interfaces between the two
22:53 Seroster Does Keags have a homepage?
22:53 tonsofpcs Seroster: yea, the front of the geek group leonard street building :-p
22:53 Seroster huh?
22:54 tonsofpcs egrsteve: meh, i'd do it in mid-air.  Tables just get in the way.
22:54 Seroster That migh be hillarious, but I sincerely dont fucking get it =P
22:54 tonsofpcs I mean, if you have a tripod to hold it while you work, it's helpful, but not needed
22:54 Seroster WTF U ON?!
22:55 tonsofpcs i'm responding to the video
22:55 Seroster I want to know if keags HVAC got a homepage. Then I'll ddos the fuck out of them
22:55 Seroster Ah. Right.
22:55 tonsofpcs egrsteve is clearly nowhere near the computer he left on, but he'll read all this when he gets back
22:58 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 12-17-11 Security Cameras and Stomper http://youtu.be/viXQhy8tRY0
22:58 tonsofpcs mounting might be doable if you remove the shoulder pad, they might all have two screws already.  alternatively you may be able to simply remove the tripod plate set (front and bacK) from the bottom (or find some tripod plates, but those cost)
22:59 Seroster Dude... Don't doubt the powers of the duct tape gods.
23:00 tonsofpcs for a 20+kilo camera?
23:00 Seroster Pft, not even half a roll
23:00 tonsofpcs lol
23:01 tonsofpcs and make it able to articulate/turn?
23:01 Seroster More duct tape.
23:01 Seroster And a midget.
23:01 tonsofpcs is it just me or did they just put an antenna on the north wall of HVL?
23:06 Cprossu OOOH
23:07 Cprossu hey egrsteve and or yNos and or... two people who aren't there
23:07 tonsofpcs lol
23:07 Cprossu Want to get me the info on that SDI capture card?
23:07 tonsofpcs egrsteve isn't -away so he might respond eventually
23:07 tonsofpcs Cprossu: what SDI capture card?
23:07 Cprossu indeed
23:07 Cprossu We have an SDI cap card
23:07 tonsofpcs the blackmagic?
23:07 tonsofpcs or different?
23:07 Cprossu no different one
23:07 tonsofpcs oh
23:08 Cprossu I set it aside because I didn't think there was a chance in hell we'd get functional analog to SDI converters
23:08 tonsofpcs Cprossu: well, you still don't have any
23:08 Cprossu what did we get then tonsofpcs?
23:08 Cprossu in the newest captains blog
23:09 tonsofpcs Leitch (Harris, or whoever else) 6801 SDI Video Distribution Ammps
23:09 Cprossu oooooh
23:09 tonsofpcs at least, I think that's what it is
23:09 tonsofpcs I'm not sure because I don't know where they got the number they read from
23:09 tonsofpcs if he can read the number off the card itself, I can look it up
23:10 Cprossu 6801 cards
23:10 Cprossu hrmmm
23:10 tonsofpcs because apparently there are ADC-6801, DAC-6801, and "VSD-6801" but the VSD are also referenced without the letters
23:10 Cprossu oooh.
23:10 Cprossu figures
23:11 tonsofpcs I have a whole book on that frame at work, I think
23:11 BatSteve yo
23:11 tonsofpcs but again, the card itself is what matters
23:11 Cprossu steve was probable reading the plastic tab I bet
23:11 tonsofpcs the frame is just a bunch of BNCs and cardedge slots
23:11 tonsofpcs I mean, there's even an (analog) DSK card for the 6801
23:11 tonsofpcs we have one 6800 series frame installed iirc
23:12 tonsofpcs (with a single DA in it)
23:12 tonsofpcs note: DA != DAC
23:12 tonsofpcs it could also have a "VDA" card in it, which is a video distribution amp, not a digital to analog converter.
23:12 tonsofpcs or an ADA card too, I think (AES/EBU audio DA)
23:13 tonsofpcs bbiab, chinese food
23:22 injektion http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=13894477
23:22 BotSteve Title: Chemical leak at Adrian plant forces workers, residents to evacu - WTOL.com: News, Weather and Sport for Toledo, Ohio
23:22 injektion That the same company I work for lol
23:25 Electricguy sleeptime for EG now! :) night night all!
23:45 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do61etbvpa4 :3
23:45 BotSteve Title: I FIGHT DRAGONS - The Geeks Will Inherit The Earth [LYRICS VIDEO] - YouTube
23:46 tonsofpcs better: cap'ns blog: http://youtu.be/viXQhy8tRY0
23:46 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 12-17-11 Security Cameras and Stomper - YouTube
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23:49 SparkyProjects Well Chris thinks i'm consistent :P
23:49 Cprossu apparently
23:50 SparkyProjects And i only said 'you're doing it wrong' once
23:51 Cprossu of all the people I am not sure why he homed in on you that time rofl
23:52 SparkyProjects I only responded because he said 'some old guy ....' and because he was doing it wrong :P
23:59 * wannabe-afk got mentioned in the sermon :D

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