Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-19

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00:01 wannabe1987 did the cb post?
00:02 SparkyProjects Yes, an hour epic
00:03 wannabe1987 link?
00:05 wannabe1987 .yt captains blog 12-17-11
00:05 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itay53XDmfw
00:05 wannabe1987 that didn't work....
00:06 Monkeh .yt captain's blog 12-17-11
00:06 BotSteve Monkeh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itay53XDmfw
00:06 Monkeh Hmm
00:06 Monkeh BotSteve: You suck.
00:07 wannabe1987 wtf is geek group merit badges?
00:07 * wannabe1987 loads video
00:07 tonsofpcs cap'ns blog: http://youtu.be/viXQhy8tRY0
00:07 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 12-17-11 Security Cameras and Stomper - YouTube
00:07 wannabe1987 yes, i found it
00:07 tonsofpcs what is that rice-cooker looking thing that they're assembling?
00:07 wannabe1987 stomper
00:07 tonsofpcs he said something about putting sand in it
00:08 SparkyProjects wannabe1987: something like the Brownies (or whatever the equivalent is in America)
00:08 wannabe1987 ahhh
00:08 wannabe1987 interesting
00:09 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell lwq1996 i need to talk to him, please PM me
00:09 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when lwq1996 is around.
00:09 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
00:09 BotSteve No problem, wannabe1987
00:09 wannabe1987 my sister is making me supper :D
00:09 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs: That's the blast chamber for Stomper, if you've seen the tests using old microwaves, you'll understand why
00:09 wannabe1987 the old microwaves blew apart and shrapnel went everywhere
00:10 SparkyProjects The shrapnel made holes :D
00:14 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: I havee no clue what stomper does (or is supposed to do)
00:15 wannabe1987 shrink coins
00:16 wannabe1987 needs a better name
00:17 SparkyProjects Stomper is more than that, it's a replacement for Thumper, so it blows up wire and cans, it will also shrink cans and coins.
00:17 SparkyProjects And if anyone can think of other instant high energy uses, that too.
00:17 SparkyProjects The tops will be interchangeable
00:18 Cprossu stomper is not a replacement for thumper lol, it's just a different machine
00:18 Cprossu it's impluse is crafted differently
00:18 Cprossu higher voltage
00:19 SparkyProjects Sorry, thought chris said this was the 'upgrade'
00:19 Cprossu SparkyProjects: he tends to say a lot of things ;)
00:19 wannabe1987 lol
00:20 Cprossu if you go back far enough the sauna was going to be the NOC.
00:21 Cprossu stomper came to be because we have research grade pulse caps and didn't do anything with them for years.
00:28 tonsofpcs oh, and egrsteve, when you get back, PM me, I have some info on that pesky malware
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00:38 wannabe1987 wb
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00:46 injektion http://imgur.com/dUc61
00:46 BotSteve Title: 4 girls 1 vacuum, - Imgur
00:49 wannabe1987 win:  http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/406848_282874701765542_244753448911001_818719_906230626_n.jpg
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00:49 DruidicRifleman hey geeks
00:49 producerbill2 yo
00:50 injektion lol
00:50 injektion My brothers GF spent yesterday with us
00:50 wannabe1987 hi DruidicRifleman :)
00:50 injektion Now the house smells >_<
00:50 wannabe1987 ....
00:50 producerbill2 lol
00:51 wannabe1987 smells like girl?
00:51 injektion No
00:51 injektion She doesn't bathe daily
00:51 wannabe1987 .............
00:51 producerbill2 sick
00:51 wannabe1987 ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
00:51 producerbill2 throw paint on her next time
00:52 injektion What I am going to do is spray her with lysol
00:52 producerbill2 lol
00:52 DruidicRifleman I'd throw a bucket if isolproly rubbing alcohol on the twat
00:52 producerbill2 or fabrezz
00:52 DruidicRifleman High concentration lik 90% or better
00:53 injektion I call her bucky
00:53 producerbill2 the hold a lighter up and say clean or else
00:53 DruidicRifleman Yeah... i shouldn't write chemistry how to's
00:53 wannabe1987 lol
00:53 DruidicRifleman yeah
00:53 wannabe1987 how are you doing, DruidicRifleman?
00:53 DruidicRifleman Ok
00:53 injektion What I want to do is get some chlorine from work and make her take a chlorine bath
00:54 DruidicRifleman Maglinvinns sending me burn ointment for chrismast
00:54 DruidicRifleman he thinks my home made flame thrower will leabe me horribly scared
00:54 wannabe1987 lol i agree with him!
00:54 DruidicRifleman ...
00:54 wannabe1987 sorry :P
00:54 DruidicRifleman It's not that dangerous
00:55 DruidicRifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Mt9AenN9s
00:55 BotSteve Title: George Carlin - Flamethrowers Typography - YouTube
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00:57 DruidicRifleman it's not gonna end that badly now plasma rifles THEM things are dangerous
00:57 tonsofpcs injektion: uh... start with telling her how disgusting she is?
00:58 DruidicRifleman or bring up the time the local farmer found your bro in his pig pen....
00:59 injektion tonsofpcs, She knows
00:59 DruidicRifleman try the farmer one then?
01:00 CaptainNiobe morning all
01:00 wannabe1987 hi!!! :D  wb
01:00 DruidicRifleman train the dog to be afraid of her and have a sign that says "if the dog can"
01:00 DruidicRifleman t stand your stinky ass stay out side
01:00 CaptainNiobe g'day wannabe :D ty
01:00 DruidicRifleman Hey Niobe
01:01 DruidicRifleman they think a homemade flame thrower would leave me horribly scared
01:01 DruidicRifleman Scarred...
01:01 CaptainNiobe g'day DruidicRifleman :)
01:01 DruidicRifleman there is to much blood in my alcohol system
01:01 CaptainNiobe ???
01:03 DruidicRifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=fvwp&amp;v=7dmE-emrrAs people think a home made one would leave me horribly burned
01:03 BotSteve Title: US Marine Corps Flamethrower Demonstration - YouTube
01:04 Monkeh egrsteve: Bad steve. Don't climb the outside of the tower. :P
01:09 DruidicRifleman Why do people think i would end up in a burn unit if i bult a home made flame thrower...
01:09 masterofmonks DruidicRifleman: Wellllll....
01:10 wannabe1987 lol
01:10 masterofmonks The first question is what would you do with one?
01:10 DruidicRifleman ummm Burn shit
01:10 masterofmonks And there is your answer.
01:10 DruidicRifleman ...
01:11 DruidicRifleman the military used them safely in vietnam and ww2 on iwo jima
01:11 Monkeh DruidicRifleman: ... safely?
01:11 DruidicRifleman ...
01:12 DruidicRifleman the operators didn't die
01:12 Monkeh DruidicRifleman: There were plenty of accidents and let's not forget what happens when the fuel tank gets damaged.
01:12 DruidicRifleman and you assume i am dumb enough to use a diffective tank
01:12 DruidicRifleman ...
01:12 Monkeh I assume you're dumb enough to think a flamethrower is remotely safe and that you can't spell defective.
01:13 injektion NAPALM
01:13 Monkeh The only people I know who have made flamethrowers are professionals. For a reason.
01:13 masterofmonks Oh fuck no, never think you are going to use napalm for a flamethrower.
01:14 DruidicRifleman yeah does not flow for shit
01:14 sndwrx flammenwerfer
01:14 masterofmonks While I could build a reasonably safe flame thwower, I refuse to be involved with irresponsible use.
01:15 masterofmonks I have a guy at work pestering me to build him one.
01:15 DruidicRifleman hmmm
01:16 DruidicRifleman diffine "irresponsible use"
01:16 masterofmonks Anything you would use it for.
01:16 Monkeh Burning stuff at random for the hell of it.
01:16 Monkeh ie. what you'd do with it.
01:17 DruidicRifleman whats "responsible use"?
01:17 DruidicRifleman Not randomly burning stuff
01:17 masterofmonks Not building one.
01:17 Monkeh Demonstrations and pyrotechnics. See: Professionals.
01:18 DruidicRifleman ... i don't think this is that bad of an idea
01:18 DruidicRifleman brb my glass is empty
01:18 Monkeh You don't think.
01:19 masterofmonks The problem is that 99% of the people who want to use them, don't understand the physics involved.
01:19 masterofmonks And are absolutely unprepared when anything happens.
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01:19 Monkeh masterofmonks: Chances of understanding physics when not understanding the difference between 'def' and 'diff'?
01:20 injektion lol Postal III comes out 2 days
01:20 injektion in 2 days*
01:20 DruidicRifleman Very high
01:20 DruidicRifleman With me
01:21 masterofmonks And what would you use as your fuel?
01:22 Monkeh masterofmonks: FIRE!
01:23 DruidicRifleman Depends
01:23 DruidicRifleman Mildly thickend desil fule
01:24 DruidicRifleman Ugh
01:24 DruidicRifleman diesel fuel*
01:24 * wannabe1987 is scared for canada if druid has flamethrower
01:25 Monkeh wannabe1987: It could potentially be for the best..
01:25 wannabe1987 true....
01:25 wannabe1987 hey druid, can you take out detroit?
01:25 masterofmonks DruidicRifleman: I assume you want a pressureized system?
01:25 DruidicRifleman ...
01:25 DruidicRifleman CO2 regulated
01:25 DruidicRifleman 2 gram based
01:25 DruidicRifleman 12*
01:26 masterofmonks Yep, walking death.
01:26 DruidicRifleman why?
01:26 DruidicRifleman how elsedo you throw fire?
01:27 masterofmonks That would be telling now wouldn't it?
01:28 DruidicRifleman you just wanna keep me from having a flame thrower
01:28 Monkeh Why yes, I think that's the general consensus
01:28 DruidicRifleman :( why though
01:29 masterofmonks Ever seen what happens when someone burns to death?
01:29 wannabe1987 druid, we don't want you to die....
01:29 Monkeh wannabe1987: We don't?!
01:29 wannabe1987 i don't
01:29 wannabe1987 i don't wish death on people....
01:30 DruidicRifleman I've seen what happens when a guy is pinned between two 5 ton Military trucks
01:30 Monkeh wannabe1987: Okay, fair point, but I'm going to own up to a certain amount of indifference.
01:30 wannabe1987 how so?
01:30 Monkeh wannabe1987: Some people bring things upon themselves.
01:30 wannabe1987 yeah....
01:31 wannabe1987 did you type "let it snow" into google?
01:31 DruidicRifleman ... like the fuckers i'd BBQ streight to HELL!!!!
01:31 Monkeh wannabe1987: No?
01:31 wannabe1987 i know you want to get rid of some people druid....but idk if bbqing them is a good idea...
01:31 wannabe1987 Monkeh: you should
01:31 DruidicRifleman shooting them is two painless
01:31 Monkeh wannabe1987: Cute.
01:31 Monkeh DruidicRifleman: It really doesn't have to be. You claim to be a sniper..
01:32 DruidicRifleman able to preform the job never earned the tab
01:33 Monkeh egrsteve: If that drill isn't going through cleanly, have you greased the chuck?
01:33 Monkeh (don't use normal grease. Use silicone.)
01:34 DruidicRifleman I wonder... what would happen if i used wet platnum Premium body guide in an A5...
01:35 Monkeh I wonder if anyone has any idea what you're on about. :P
01:35 wannabe1987 well, i know why he wants to get rid of people, but the rest of it?  nope
01:36 DruidicRifleman I wonder if silicone based Sex lube works as well as silcopne based paint ball lube does...
01:36 astro73|alice_ red has become sappy.
01:36 wannabe1987 red?
01:36 DruidicRifleman Hmmm
01:37 wannabe1987 as in dylans gf red?
01:37 astro73|alice_ .... yes. is there another?
01:37 wannabe1987 no
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01:38 kellyEv wtf
01:38 DruidicRifleman hmmm
01:38 DruidicRifleman what
01:38 wannabe1987 there
01:38 CaptainNiobe wtf?
01:38 CaptainNiobe O.O :D
01:39 wannabe1987 i randomly disconnected, hence the wtf
01:39 DruidicRifleman astro73|alice_ diffine sappy
01:39 Guest84041 hangon
01:40 wannabe1987 hi
01:40 wannabe1987 wb
01:41 astro73|alice first time I failed to identify in time
01:41 wannabe1987 ah
01:41 DruidicRifleman Ok
01:41 DruidicRifleman How then
01:41 astro73|alice sappy. "get a room" "Nausiating" "so cute i could die"
01:41 DruidicRifleman does red seam "sappy"
01:42 DruidicRifleman ah
01:42 DruidicRifleman She's not dating an abusive dick head who made her feel un aprciated and unvalued...
01:42 astro73|alice she dumped him like 9mo ago
01:42 DruidicRifleman yeah...
01:42 DruidicRifleman and
01:42 DruidicRifleman ...
01:43 wannabe1987 who, blake?
01:43 DruidicRifleman people don't bounch back that fast
01:43 DruidicRifleman if she's happy
01:43 astro73|alice she hasn't
01:43 astro73|alice but she's doing better
01:43 DruidicRifleman can't you be happy for her
01:43 astro73|alice I am
01:43 DruidicRifleman K
01:43 astro73|alice and I got my own girl, and she makes me pretty happy
01:43 astro73|alice there's a reason there's not many photos of the two of us
01:43 wannabe1987 i'm working on being happy without someone for the time being
01:44 wannabe1987 why, astro?
01:44 astro73|alice wannabe1987: there's a youtube video about that
01:44 wannabe1987 o?
01:44 DruidicRifleman http://www.wasatchbeers.com/polygporter.html
01:44 BotSteve Title: Wasatch Brew Pub
01:44 astro73|alice wannabe1987: it'd be sappy
01:44 DruidicRifleman I need to buy a few cases next time i am In SLC
01:44 wannabe1987 interesting
01:44 astro73|alice .yt How to be Alone
01:44 BotSteve astro73|alice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7X7sZzSXYs
01:45 DruidicRifleman :( i wish i'd stayed there and never came back to canada
01:45 wannabe1987 stayed here in merica?
01:45 wannabe1987 i sorry druid
01:45 wannabe1987 why did you go back to canadialand?
01:45 DruidicRifleman i had to
01:45 DruidicRifleman no green card
01:46 wannabe1987 ahhhh
01:46 tonsofpcs DruidicRifleman: with current legislation pending, it may be much easier for one of us to get asylum in canada than you in the states
01:46 DruidicRifleman ...
01:46 DruidicRifleman Canada sucks
01:47 DruidicRifleman don't come here
01:47 astro73|alice good to know
01:47 dbshortwave out side of snow and cold how much worse is it then the US just say you love the queen and you want her to have your ......wait this needs to go to #TGG:NSFW
01:47 astro73|alice i have friends up there, though
01:48 astro73|alice dbshortwave: ewww. how old is she???
01:48 dbshortwave lol
01:49 DruidicRifleman so do i and would abandon them to die in canada in a heart beat
01:50 tonsofpcs DruidicRifleman: how does canada suck more than here?
01:50 DruidicRifleman More amaricans are willing to resist government
01:51 dbshortwave yeah bu its not working
01:51 wannabe1987 lol
01:51 DruidicRifleman your not Delivering enough lead then IMHO
01:51 tonsofpcs define willing
01:51 DruidicRifleman Buying guns at a rappid pase
01:52 DruidicRifleman pace
01:53 dbshortwave the words ive uttered in a channel that will never see the light of IRC daylight cannoth be uttered in this freenode without having seal team 6 show and swat
01:54 dbshortwave yeah im borderline nits
01:54 wannabe1987 borderine?
01:54 dbshortwave heh yeah
01:54 dbshortwave id never act on it
01:55 dbshortwave the guy that tried running his wife down in his truck plowed into a gas station store.. HES NUCKIN FUTS
01:55 dbshortwave all i do is bitch and get annoying lol
01:55 DruidicRifleman LOL
01:56 tonsofpcs dbshortwave: welcome to IRC.  10%+ of all users are like that.
01:56 dbshortwave lol
01:57 tonsofpcs (also, you actually contribute to discussion from time to time, let me know if you want to meet those that don't)
01:57 dbshortwave its not just IRC its YAHOO and AOL too
01:57 tonsofpcs I said 10%+ not 90%+
01:57 dbshortwave lol
01:59 dbshortwave may i ask... what is it with some women that want a wedding dress sooo  big that makes there ass look like an elephent?
01:59 DruidicRifleman LOL
01:59 dbshortwave my mrs left iton this channel
01:59 DruidicRifleman what is it with people who get married
02:00 * dbshortwave flips off the tv
02:00 dbshortwave oh no
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02:00 dbshortwave its 'geek love'
02:01 dbshortwave lol dude ... we are our own race
02:03 wannabe1987 ITS A DR WHO!
02:03 DruidicRifleman sooon there will be issues with geekism in schools
02:04 dbshortwave not there wont... lol thats what lan partys are for
02:06 wannabe1987 one of my brothers classmates (5thgrade) can do some coding....apparently his dad is in compu sci tho, so he comes by it naturally
02:08 * tonsofpcs was writing code at age 5
02:08 tonsofpcs more importantly: where's there aa doctor who?
02:08 wannabe1987 on netflix
02:08 wannabe1987 and our tv
02:09 DruidicRifleman but yeah tonsofpcs i fail to see how living in canada is better then living in the USA
02:09 wannabe1987 and possibly my utorrent :/
02:09 * dbshortwave was learning to solder at 5
02:09 * wannabe1987 was playing with barbies then ?
02:09 tonsofpcs DruidicRifleman: SOPA
02:09 DruidicRifleman and...
02:10 wannabe1987 [censored]
02:10 dbshortwave >.>
02:11 wannabe1987 [censored] [censored] [censored] [censored]
02:11 DruidicRifleman yeah
02:11 wannabe1987 I don't want to [censored]
02:12 tonsofpcs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act#DNS_blocking_and_filtering
02:12 BotSteve Title: Stop Online Piracy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:13 dbshortwave yeah just saying rick james will get you fined $50,000.00 and 5 years in jail
02:13 * tonsofpcs hands dbshortwave his fine, since private corporations can do that
02:14 dbshortwave yep
02:14 tonsofpcs oh, and I (not a government actor) can just shut you down DruidicRifleman since you aren't servable in the US.
02:15 DruidicRifleman I live in a country Where the queens former represenitive Recently attended a Hate rally against my way of life where she hung out with a bunch of radical communists who stained there clothes in blood as a represenation of the slain women because An absolutely useless pile of garbage is being thrown out
02:15 DruidicRifleman All the wile Likening me to being a woman mass killing psychpath
02:15 DruidicRifleman while
02:16 tonsofpcs I note: former
02:16 tonsofpcs I live in country where a large portion of our current representatives want to have the power to do something that they have fought against in other countries where they had no business even talking.
02:16 DruidicRifleman I note that Acts of hate speach pown denial of Downloading Disturbed albums with bitorrent
02:17 tonsofpcs DruidicRifleman: the issue with SOPA is that it acts as a means of preventing all kinds of access to all kinds of content.
02:18 wannabe1987 it'll deny me access to my facebook
02:18 tonsofpcs because anyone can claim violation on any domain or IP address and there is NO oversight to say "no, we shouldn't block that"
02:18 DruidicRifleman Allready live with that
02:19 wannabe1987 you're denied access to facebook?
02:19 DruidicRifleman could end up in jail with out being allowed to see the evidfence against me tomorrow
02:20 dbshortwave that law was trying to be passed by some baboon in house for militarty law
02:21 tonsofpcs so the source that informed you of that hate speech and a source that may allow for discussion of it (and possibly look to aid people that rreally are in trouble) might be blocked because some company that sells widgets was upset with them.
02:21 tonsofpcs not even getting into the violation of RFC 1035.........
02:27 dbshortwave its all a bunch of crap they are fearing finding secrests of others out. everyone thinks the cold war is over... ITS NOT
02:27 dbshortwave cold war is still going on
02:30 DruidicRifleman Someone should tell china it's over
02:39 DruidicRifleman https://www.getflexseal.com/ hey maybe thelab could use this to fix keags workmanfail
02:39 BotSteve Title: Flex Seal™ - Liquid Rubber Sealant in a Can! | Official Site
02:39 DruidicRifleman Maybe flex seal could become a sponser...
02:39 CaptainNiobe maybe keags can get off their backsides and do it right in the first place... lol...
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02:40 producerbill2 any AV geeks here?
02:41 eadthem you shuld see the captans blog
02:42 producerbill2 should I???  why?
02:42 wannabe1987 .tfw 49428
02:42 BotSteve 36°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Jenison, MI!  'Global Warming? Bullshit.'
02:42 wannabe1987 eadthem, producerbill2 is IN the video....
02:42 eadthem o
02:43 wannabe1987 he's the guy in suspenders
02:43 eadthem ahh
02:44 producerbill2 I am watch a show on female killers
02:44 Monkeh|Lap He's the poor bastard who's been forced to climb ladders and scaffolding. ;)
02:44 wannabe1987 i'm watching dr who s03e01
02:44 eadthem i can feel for ya on the ladders
02:44 producerbill2 I hate nights
02:44 wannabe1987 heights?
02:44 wannabe1987 or nights?
02:45 wannabe1987 ooo hv!
02:45 tonsofpcs hi bill!
02:45 producerbill2 heights
02:45 producerbill2 ha tonsofpcs
02:45 producerbill2 ha
02:45 wannabe1987 i figured thats what you meant
02:45 producerbill2 hay I mean
02:45 wannabe1987 .seen lwq1996
02:45 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw lwq1996 166.08 hours ago at 2011-12-12 04:41:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:45:42 UTC
02:45 * tonsofpcs is not a fan of any ladder/structure that isn't firmly planted
02:45 wannabe1987 .c 166hours into days
02:45 BotSteve 6.91666667 days
02:46 wannabe1987 that has to be wrong....
02:46 Monkeh|Lap producerbill2: Well, you got Steve to do it for you in the end. :)
02:46 tonsofpcs like, I loved climbing the 50' wrought iron bolted+welded to structural steel ladder in the theater at school.  I couldn't go up the 30' A-frame.
02:46 producerbill2 I did it partly to face the fear
02:46 Monkeh|Lap producerbill2: I hope someone other than me has told him off for climbing the outside of the tower, though.
02:46 tonsofpcs climbing the outside of the tower?
02:47 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yes.
02:47 producerbill2 no guess we should have
02:47 eadthem bill what do you do normaly
02:47 producerbill2 what do you mean
02:47 tonsofpcs (one of these things - http://www.gsmindustrial.com/images/products/cache/Ladders_and_Structural_Steel_Ready_to_Ship2_web_456x342.jpg although black not yellow)
02:48 eadthem programming  roboitics  high voltage   electronics   AV ?
02:48 Monkeh|Lap producerbill2: I think he wants to know your job.
02:48 tonsofpcs producerbill2 makes cool stuff happen.
02:48 wannabe1987 lol
02:49 tonsofpcs anyway, you were asking for AV stuffs?
02:49 producerbill2 well outside the lab a design and build upper air weather products
02:49 * tonsofpcs wants a rawinsonde or twenty
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02:50 producerbill2 at the lab well AV stuff, programming, general anything I can do to help out
02:50 wannabe1987 hi jess!
02:50 producerbill2 why?
02:50 eadthem just curios
02:51 eadthem still trying to connect names faces and trades to everyone
02:51 producerbill2 ok, what do you do?
02:51 eadthem atm programming   i also do electronics engineering and robotics
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02:53 dbshortwave ROFL "Rock climber go climb a rock and feel good about yourself
02:53 AndroUser2 what happen
02:53 dbshortwave what bill said
02:54 tonsofpcs AndroUser2: captain's blog
02:54 dbshortwave in the captians blog
02:54 tonsofpcs also, I love how bill points out the slope of the floor and a bit later in the video chris is like "yea, that floor is pretty level"
02:54 AndroUser2 lol ya that is me.,, I am bill I got kicked.
02:54 AndroUser2 I will be back
02:54 tonsofpcs oh lol
02:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I think he meant compared to the rest of the building.. :)
02:55 KawaiiJess Hai wannabe1987
02:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Trust me, I've seen far worse. :D
02:55 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: studios are probably the flattest floors
02:55 tonsofpcs (they used to be racketball courts)
02:56 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I wouldn't bet on any of it being flat.
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02:57 tonsofpcs having sat on the floor there, i'd say it's the most likely to be.
02:57 tonsofpcs (was looking at dekos)
02:59 eadthem mmm i need a function to convert a base 10 number to base 32, 36 or 64 68
03:00 tonsofpcs what symbol set?
03:00 eadthem code128 barcode
03:00 eadthem hents why i want to change bases
03:01 tonsofpcs huh? why does code128 require a base change? isn't it ascii compliant?
03:01 eadthem yes
03:01 eadthem but i have a large number
03:01 eadthem if its in base 64  ie  upper lower case + numbers
03:02 eadthem it takes up about 1/6 the space on paper
03:03 eadthem http://libb64.sourceforge.net/  found waht im looking for
03:03 BotSteve Title: libb64: Base64 Encoding/Decoding Routines
03:03 tonsofpcs so your symbol space is upper, lower, numbers?
03:03 eadthem well it could be larger
03:03 eadthem but i wanted to keep it fairly human readable
03:03 tonsofpcs I have base64 and uuencode on my linux box here....
03:04 tonsofpcs even your IRC client has a base 64 encode/decode builtin
03:04 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: You may be able to avoid using an extra external lib
03:04 tonsofpcs but the code is out theree, it's relatively simple
03:05 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: If you're using openssl or glib, they have functions for it (I have no idea what you're writing for what platform, so..)
03:05 eadthem ooo glib  that i have
03:06 eadthem thats why i asked  figured someone might have a genus idea like that
03:06 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: http://developer.gnome.org/glib/stable/glib-Base64-Encoding.html
03:06 BotSteve Title: Base64 Encoding
03:06 eadthem found that alredy :p
03:06 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: There you go. ;)
03:06 eadthem tnks
03:07 Monkeh|Lap glib's a handy library.
03:08 eadthem ya sense im using GTK for gui it works out well
03:08 eadthem i turned down openSSL for SHA1  ended up using a small 2 file implmentation that didnt involve another 50 files
03:08 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, openssl does everything going but it's not small
03:09 Monkeh|Lap Very, very powerful though
03:09 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: For stuff like sha and md5, you can always rip code from the likes of coreutils
03:10 eadthem i used a small project off google code   sha1.h  sha1.cpp and a main.cpp testcase   worked out great
03:11 tonsofpcs note: Kim Jong Il dead.
03:11 eadthem whos he
03:11 astro73|alice what's up?
03:11 astro73|alice tonsofpcs: good ridens
03:11 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Oh, and there's gcrypt which iirc is relatively compact.
03:11 Monkeh|Lap And gets everywhere
03:11 astro73|alice eadthem: what's up?
03:12 * astro73|alice knows GTK fairly well
03:12 eadthem na think i got it
03:12 astro73|alice ok
03:12 eadthem naturaly its typical of gtk style    4 functions   takeing gtypes  but acceptable solution
03:13 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: The nice thing about using fat external libs is at least you know you're getting a robust implementation. ;)
03:13 tonsofpcs (well, North Korea reports such)
03:13 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Things like base64, md5, sha1, etc, get so heavily used by so many things that they're done as efficiently as possible in the big libs.
03:13 eadthem well far as sha1 goes  ither it will work or it wont,  its hardly a security concern if it works  i mean other than the traditional sha1 security concerns
03:14 astro73|alice Ok, I usually use Python and PyGTK, but I also don't generally do heavy computation stuff.
03:14 eadthem ya http://developer.gnome.org/glib/2.28/glib-Base64-Encoding.html is not inspireing confadence
03:14 BotSteve Title: Base64 Encoding
03:14 Monkeh|Lap Know what I like about gtk+?
03:14 eadthem is this going to convert base 10 numbers to base64 numbers
03:15 eadthem or is it something for text
03:15 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: 'arbitrary bytes', ie. anything.
03:15 astro73|alice eadthem: usually "base64 encoding" is for turning binary blobs of data into ASCII.
03:15 astro73|alice if you just want to convert base, there's other ways of doing it
03:16 eadthem ya i was expecting more something like atoui atoi atof
03:17 astro73|alice ... is that what you wanted?
03:17 eadthem ya
03:17 astro73|alice you want to actually convert the bases of a number?
03:17 eadthem yep
03:18 tonsofpcs you convert it to binary and then run it through base64
03:18 tonsofpcs which is easy if you store it as a number!
03:18 eadthem k so it is what i want then
03:18 tonsofpcs mindd you, a really long string of digits is harder to convert to binary than just encoding the ascii (or BCD) representation thereof
03:18 astro73|alice tonsofpcs: except the ASCII expression of base64 isn't centered on 0
03:19 eadthem were talking a uint64
03:19 astro73|alice eadthem: why do you want to expand a number to base 64?
03:19 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: assuming he makes the decoding algorithm so it's irrelevant
03:19 eadthem uint64 takes 20 characters to reprensent right
03:19 eadthem in base 64 it would take about 4
03:20 eadthem thats alot of barcode space reduction
03:20 tonsofpcs you could just shrink the physical barcode.
03:20 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Makes reading them iffy sometimes.
03:20 eadthem smaller barcoded strings = bigger barcode size = better reliablty
03:20 astro73|alice .wa log(2^64) / log(64)
03:21 BotSteve (log(2^64))\/(log(64));32\/3;10.666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666...;[10; 1];(log(2^64))\/(log(64)) = (log(e, 2^64))\/(log(e, 64));(log(2^64))\/(log(64)) = (log(a) log(a, 2^64))\/(log(a) log(a, 64));(log(2^64))\/(log(64)) = (-Li_1(1-2^64))\/(-Li_1(-63));(log(2^64))\/(log(64)) = ( integral_1^184467440737095516161\/t dt)\/( integral_1^641\/t dt);(log(2^64))\/(log(64)) = ( integral_(-i infinity+gam
03:21 tonsofpcs ehh, I've had just as much trouble with overspaced barcodes and underspaced barcodes.
03:21 astro73|alice .... what?
03:21 eadthem beaings a bad barcode = 5 min of downtime on a pick and place line that shuld be doing 60,000 placements a hour  thats big
03:21 tonsofpcs eadthem: use a large barcode or a 2D barcode?
03:21 * tonsofpcs points eadthem to UPS and Fedex shipping labels that have fixed this problem
03:22 eadthem we dont have 2d scanners (captial investment)
03:22 eadthem atm we have realy nice symbol laser scanners that work up to 3 feet away
03:22 astro73|alice eadthem: a 64 bit number takes 11 base 64 digits
03:22 tonsofpcs just use a huge (read: 2"-3" tall, 5" wide) barcode.
03:23 astro73|alice but why do you need a number in a barcode?
03:23 astro73|alice and why does it need to be encoded?
03:23 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Well it needs to be encoded to save space, clearly.
03:23 tonsofpcs I would think the encode/decode delay would be worse than just using a larger sticker
03:23 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Delay? To do this?
03:23 eadthem our barcodes are as  P000-0000-00S00000000000000000000
03:23 Monkeh|Lap It'd be instant on my WATCH.
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03:24 Ponko-iPad Boom
03:24 eadthem p beaing the part number  S beaing the SMT reel serial number
03:24 astro73|alice converting base won't necessarily save space, depending on the print system
03:24 Monkeh|Lap Ponko-iPad: Eeeewwwww
03:24 Monkeh|Lap Ponko-iPad: Shoo!
03:24 tonsofpcs eadthem: and it's human readable so the process still works if the scanner fails.
03:24 Monkeh|Lap Away!
03:24 astro73|alice since, in terms of bits, binary is the most compact non-compressed expression
03:25 Ponko-iPad ;) hi to you too Monkeh|Lap
03:25 Monkeh|Lap Ponko-iPad: uFail
03:25 Ponko-iPad Yeah yeah
03:25 eadthem now if its base 64 it would be about P000-0000-00S00000
03:25 tonsofpcs eadthem: I think your choice of Code128 may be a mistake.
03:25 eadthem why?
03:25 astro73|alice except base64 requires 64 different characters, including symbols, upper case, and lower case
03:26 astro73|alice which isn't really friendly
03:26 tonsofpcs why not just encode the digits with a digit-based system?
03:26 eadthem i have to support letters
03:26 tonsofpcs it'll be much narrower per symbol with a better read acceptance rate
03:26 astro73|alice and 64 bits doesn't map to 11 digits evenly
03:26 tonsofpcs why? P and S are both always there, no?
03:26 eadthem i cant control the software on a universal insutmrents machine
03:27 eadthem it sees the P and knows next 10 letters are the part number  witch it used for valadating the right part is in the right feeder
03:27 eadthem it sees the S and says  dont understand it  but ile stick it in the logfile for someone elses program
03:27 Ponko-iPad I see my main man BatSteve is here :P
03:27 BatSteve indeed
03:27 tonsofpcs can you program your barcode scanner to prepend a P to everything?
03:27 eadthem accualy base 64 isnt correct
03:28 eadthem it would be 54 as you cant uppercase  0-9
03:28 eadthem no
03:28 tonsofpcs but base64 exists.
03:28 eadthem you can do lots of crazy stuff with symbol but  not that crazy
03:28 tonsofpcs really? cus my cheap WASP can do that.
03:28 Ponko-iPad This is kind of difficult to work or well hard to keep up with chat lol
03:28 astro73|alice eadthem: what is your character space?
03:29 eadthem our 2d HHP scanner can but we have 1  and its only for checking in parts   witch is the software im replaceing
03:29 tonsofpcs i thought you didn't have a 2d scanner....
03:29 eadthem 1
03:29 eadthem only because toshiba dosent know how to put a standard barcode on there reels
03:30 astro73|alice eadthem: what characters can your reader understand?
03:31 tonsofpcs probably most standard 1D symbologies?
03:31 eadthem astro73 less than 20 characters      a-z A-Z 0-9 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_128#Bar_Code_Widths
03:31 BotSteve Title: Code 128 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
03:31 eadthem just about any 1D you want
03:32 astro73|alice case-sensitive alphanumeric is 62 characters
03:32 eadthem is it?
03:32 tonsofpcs 52+10
03:32 tonsofpcs wow, that was a horrible read on the news
03:32 eadthem mmm i cant add :p
03:33 Ponko-iPad Time to make transition
03:33 astro73|alice but standard base64 still requires 2 additional symbols, plus a pad
03:33 sndwrx http://www.adafruit.com/products/194
03:34 tonsofpcs girl that read the announcement of kim jong il's death had absolutely no clue what she was reading.
03:34 BotSteve Title: Ice Tube Clock kit [v1.1] ID: 194 - $85.00 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits
03:34 Ponko-iPad In Soviet Russia transition makes you
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03:34 BotSteve Cookies, Sandwiches, Skittles, Oh my!
03:34 Ponko-iPad Wait what?
03:34 eadthem ile prob need to just breakdown and do something custom then
03:34 tonsofpcs skittles? where?
03:34 wannabe1987 no BotSteve, no cookies today
03:34 wannabe1987 .skittles tonsofpcs
03:34 BotSteve Here you go, tonsofpcs, I got you some orange skittles!
03:34 wannabe1987 Ponko-iPad has an ipad?
03:34 tonsofpcs :D
03:35 Ponko-iPad Taste the rainbow tonsofpcs
03:35 wannabe1987 Kim Jong-il died?
03:35 astro73|alice eadthem: if you can use the full 128, though, you can do a lot better than 11 digits. You'd also loose human readability.
03:35 eadthem yep
03:35 Ponko-iPad And yes Kelly I have an iPad it's my sisters but I'm using it lol
03:35 wannabe1987 ahhhh
03:36 tonsofpcs eadthem: seriously, 128 is spaced quite a bit.  Perhaps a proportional or interleaved symbology would be better?
03:36 eadthem name one
03:36 eadthem size wise  128 was the smallist
03:36 eadthem of the ones that ZINT had
03:36 eadthem witch is the encoder im using
03:37 tonsofpcs pretty sure Code 39 is tighter
03:37 eadthem i had a fight with GTK and printing and soemthing happend between pango and cairo and they made a little pangocairo  and    ya    now im using ZINT ImageMagick and ifranView  for  generation  sizeing and text  and printing  respectivly
03:37 Ponko-iPad This is kinda fun once you get the hang of it lol
03:38 * Ponko-iPad is referring to using an iPad
03:38 astro73|alice eadthem: producing barcodes in cairo? that could be interesting
03:38 tonsofpcs oh, wait, no, 39 is wider than 128... *doesn't have his symbology references on hand*
03:38 eadthem prob for the better  i couldnt of done anything better tahn 3of9 in gtk directly without alot of headache
03:38 Ponko-iPad Lol
03:38 Ponko-iPad TRANSITION
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03:39 astro73|alice also, i find it hard to believe you'd need a full 64 bits
03:39 eadthem right now   absolutly not
03:40 eadthem but if its worth doing  its worth doing right
03:40 astro73|alice right.
03:40 astro73|alice but 64b is a lot of data.
03:40 wannabe1987 .seen toastdude
03:40 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Toastdude 5.80 hours ago at 2011-12-18 21:52:18 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:40:31 UTC
03:40 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw AgCNO6 94.63 hours ago at 2011-12-15 05:02:30 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:40 astro73|alice I'm not sure there's that many videos on youtube
03:40 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
03:40 BotSteve No problem, wannabe1987
03:40 eadthem i dont want to after this has been working good for 10 years have to dig up code i havent seen in 10 years
03:40 Ponko-iPad Wtf BotSteve lull
03:40 tonsofpcs eadthem: looks like it's already been solved: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GS1-128
03:40 BotSteve Title: GS1-128 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
03:40 astro73|alice .wa 2^64
03:41 BotSteve 2^64;18446744073709551616;1.8446744073709551616 &times; 10^19;18 quintillion ...;18 billion billion ...;20 decimal digits
03:41 Ponko-iPad And wtf iPad I typed LOL nut LULL
03:41 eadthem not sure that helps
03:41 wannabe1987 ponko, botsteve has a new nickthingy that astro put together (nicktracker) and whatever nicks you have registered, it goes to check for the .seen
03:41 tonsofpcs which means .seen wannabe1987 wipes out my visible chat history
03:42 wannabe1987 lol
03:42 wannabe1987 yes
03:42 Ponko-iPad oh ok that makes sense
03:43 astro73|alice the 64 bit unix time goes back several times the age of the universe
03:43 Ponko-iPad .seen wannabe1987
03:43 BotSteve Ponko-iPad: I last saw wannabe1987 0.03 hours ago at 2011-12-19 03:42:01 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:43:50 UTC
03:43 BotSteve Ponko-iPad: I last saw wannabe-afk 3.74 hours ago at 2011-12-18 23:59:19 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:43 BotSteve Ponko-iPad: I last saw wannabe-zz 14.23 hours ago at 2011-12-18 13:30:02 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:43 BotSteve Ponko-iPad: I last saw captn_obvious 80.33 hours ago at 2011-12-15 19:24:16 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:43 BotSteve Ponko-iPad: I last saw captnobvious 81.04 hours ago at 2011-12-15 18:41:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:43 BotSteve Ponko-iPad: (1 more)
03:44 wannabe1987 wtf
03:44 wannabe1987 astro73|alice, why does it do the randome ones i switch to for fun?
03:44 wannabe1987 which other did it do, ponko?
03:44 * Ponko-iPad gorpes
03:44 astro73|alice eadthem: my point is, even 50 or 40 bits of data might be enough to last you for 20 years
03:44 eadthem true
03:44 eadthem accualy i think i got something here
03:45 Ponko-iPad Haven't got a clue Kelly
03:45 wannabe1987 didn't it go to your PMs?
03:45 astro73|alice wannabe1987: because I can't ask nickserv for an authoritive list of your nicks, so the best I can do is keep track of all of them
03:45 wannabe1987 is there a way to get rid of the last 2 or three?
03:46 eadthem wow this wont be as hard as i thought
03:46 astro73|alice wannabe1987: not really. I'd have to have some way to know what's actually registered and what you just use once or twice
03:46 wannabe1987 ok. darn.
03:46 eadthem not as condensed as i thougth ither
03:46 wannabe1987 .seen dbshortwave
03:46 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw dbshortwave 0.87 hours ago at 2011-12-19 02:54:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:46:26 UTC
03:46 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw ewfling_poo 9.04 hours ago at 2011-12-18 18:44:15 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:46 wannabe1987 LOL
03:46 eadthem 11 characters   but ile take it
03:46 wannabe1987 hahahahah
03:46 dbshortwave lol
03:46 wannabe1987 i'm still laughing
03:47 astro73|alice wannabe1987: To be perfectly honest, it's making do with limited information on the whole "what nicks does this person use" area
03:47 eadthem .seen astro73
03:47 BotSteve eadthem: I last saw astro73|alice 0.00 hours ago at 2011-12-19 03:47:18 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:47:35 UTC
03:47 BotSteve eadthem: I last saw astro73|mal 154.34 hours ago at 2011-12-12 17:27:04 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:47 BatSteve astro73|alice: suppose when a person does a seen, we only return the most recent nick, whatever that happens to be?
03:47 BotSteve eadthem: I last saw astro73|eggs 189.97 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:49:33 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:47 BotSteve eadthem: I last saw nick:astro73 1092.57 hours ago at 2011-11-03 15:13:20 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:47 eadthem and now we know  :p
03:47 astro73|alice BatSteve: I suppose we could.
03:47 wannabe1987 yeah, it does great on that...i just wish it wouldn't do alllll of them, but its pretty cool as it is :D
03:48 BatSteve I mean, when someone is doing seen, what they really care about is when the person was *last* seen.
03:48 BatSteve and they care about the person, rather than the nick.
03:48 eadthem its cool irrelevent info that nobodyelses bot dose
03:48 eadthem i love it
03:49 astro73|alice i think the popular opinion is to keep it for now
03:49 masterofmonks How about shifting it to /notice or PM
03:49 Hackbat yay http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16239693
03:49 BotSteve Title: BBC News - N Korean leader Kim Jong-il dies
03:50 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: May not be a good thing.
03:50 astro73|alice masterofmonks: i think i've only seen it reach the limit once, with wannabe
03:50 * wannabe1987 is special!
03:50 masterofmonks You should never celebrate the death of another, there is no person who is loved by none.
03:50 Hackbat well atleast we have a possiblity of influenceing the new onr
03:50 astro73|alice Hackbat: from what I hear, Kim Jong-un is just as bad
03:51 wannabe1987 his son....
03:51 Hackbat damn...
03:51 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: Yeah, but Kim Jong-un rubs me the wrong way.
03:51 Monkeh|Lap Something about him is not right. In an oh fuck nuclear war kinda way.
03:51 Hackbat why can't it be like that xmas special
03:51 Hackbat where he wants to be a dentist
03:51 BatSteve The one with the puppets?
03:51 Hackbat si
03:51 BatSteve .w team america world police
03:51 BotSteve "Team America: World Police, often referred to as simply Team America, is a 2004 action comedy film written by Trey Parker, Matt Stone, and Pam Brady and directed by Parker, all of whom are also known for the popular animated television series South Park." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_america_world_police
03:51 astro73|alice but his dad was the king of being bat-shit insane. It's going to be hard for him to top it.
03:51 Hackbat lol
03:51 Hackbat noooo
03:52 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: I think he'll manage
03:52 eadthem a 64 character lookup table and about 20 lines of code and i shuld have my converter
03:54 astro73|alice eadthem: as long as you got 64 characters you can use.
03:54 eadthem i added + and -
03:54 astro73|alice i thought you were using - for formatting?
03:54 eadthem naw its formatting for our internal part number format
03:54 eadthem but the machines compare the strings
03:54 DruidicRifleman i wonder how many freenode channels are diuscussing north korea right now
03:54 astro73|alice ok
03:55 eadthem we could have BKWJEFJSLDK as our part number and it would be fine   as long as it started with a P
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03:55 eadthem and as long as i told it to expect to see exactly the right number of letters   else it would get strange
03:56 astro73|alice also, will P or S appearing in the number screw it up?
03:56 astro73|alice (or p or s)
03:56 eadthem i hope not
03:57 astro73|alice might want to find out before making it wide-spread
03:57 eadthem if they do i can just sub them out     nice thing about a lookup table
03:57 eadthem jsut have to change 4 lines of code to fix it   and if worst case  i can tell the scanners to do a fixed code  and then the P and S are only needed for human purposes
03:58 Ponko-iPad TRANSITION!!!!!!!!
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03:58 Ponko boom
03:58 astro73|alice head shot?
03:58 Ponko lol
03:58 astro73|alice BatSteve: actually, fixing the tells would be a good idea
03:58 Ponko that was a near perfect transititon
03:58 CaptainNiobe hey ponko :)
03:59 Ponko CaptainNiobe: long time
03:59 BatSteve I've lost track of all the things that are wrong with the bot.  What's broken with the tells?
03:59 CaptainNiobe i reckon... lol... how you been, Ponko?
03:59 Ponko very well thanks :)
03:59 Ponko yourself
03:59 astro73|alice i filed a bug. It only tells the first one, all others appear to be discarded
03:59 CaptainNiobe sweet :)
04:00 CaptainNiobe i'm good... :)
04:00 Ponko BatSteve: it's like the lions eh
04:00 Ponko even though they won
04:00 Ponko thanks for keeping the NFC Norris alive btw
04:00 Ponko and CaptainNiobe that's good :)
04:01 CaptainNiobe i would hope so, Ponko :P :P
04:01 astro73|alice BatSteve: Oh, it's line 69 in tell.py. It never saves the modified value. Wouldn't have appeared until the JSON store
04:01 Ponko good is good bad is.... bad
04:01 Ponko so yeah i'd hope so too lol
04:01 BatSteve oh
04:01 BatSteve oh right
04:01 BatSteve yeah
04:01 BatSteve I recall that
04:02 Ponko 28-27 @ Oakland BatSteve
04:02 CaptainNiobe matter of context? in some cases, bad is good... *shuts mouth* :P
04:02 Ponko lol
04:03 astro73|alice BatSteve: Also, I need to write documentation on how to use NickTracker, methinks.
04:03 Ponko BatSteve: BotSteve is like the lions you've forgotten his long list of flaws
04:03 tonsofpcs BatSteve: also:
04:03 tonsofpcs .seen wannabe1987
04:03 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I last saw wannabe1987 0.21 hours ago at 2011-12-19 03:51:00 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:03:39 UTC
04:03 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I last saw wannabe-afk 4.07 hours ago at 2011-12-18 23:59:19 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
04:03 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I last saw wannabe-zz 14.56 hours ago at 2011-12-18 13:30:02 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
04:03 BatSteve true
04:03 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I last saw captn_obvious 80.66 hours ago at 2011-12-15 19:24:16 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
04:03 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I last saw captnobvious 81.38 hours ago at 2011-12-15 18:41:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
04:03 BotSteve tonsofpcs: (1 more)
04:03 tonsofpcs I don't need to see 15 results, only that first one.
04:04 astro73|alice how about 3, and move the "1 more" to the end of the previous line?
04:04 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: bbut I only need to know the *last* time she was seen, not the last time for each of 15 names.
04:05 wannabe1987 i'm here!
04:05 tonsofpcs prove it!
04:05 tonsofpcs :D
04:05 astro73|alice there's also people that say that it's cool we keep track of all of them
04:05 wannabe1987 .cookie tonsofpcs
04:05 BotSteve Here you go, tonsofpcs, I baked you an almond cookie!
04:05 BatSteve tonsofpcs: I was saying the same thing a few minutes ago
04:05 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: it is cool that you track all of them.  If she last spoke as captnobvious 5 mintes ago, I'd want to know that
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04:06 Ponko yeah it's kind of annoying tonsofpcs but you ask if he's seen a seperate nick and he won't even though he's said that nick before
04:06 tonsofpcs but then I don't need to know that 'wannabe1987' last spoke 50 hours ago
04:06 Ponko .seen Ponko
04:06 BotSteve Ponko: I last saw Ponko 0.00 hours ago at 2011-12-19 04:06:12 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:06:12 UTC
04:06 BotSteve Ponko: I last saw Pnk-Rally-Drivin 98.24 hours ago at 2011-12-15 01:51:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
04:06 Ponko WHAT
04:06 lwq1996 hey hackbat/ponko i got rid of it my way :D
04:06 BotSteve lwq1996: I have the following messages for you:
04:06 BotSteve At 00:09Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell lwq1996 i need to talk to him, please PM me
04:06 wannabe1987 ohail lee
04:06 DruidicRifleman wow in the USA there is 9 guns for every 10 people
04:06 Ponko lwq1996: good for you idc
04:06 lwq1996 hey shut up -.-
04:06 astro73|alice also, nicking away doesn't update the seen database
04:06 tonsofpcs DruidicRifleman: yes, but they're all owned by 1 in every 50 people.
04:06 BatSteve hmm...how can we get a gun to that last person?
04:07 tonsofpcs (or something like that)
04:07 wannabe1987 BatSteve: i need a gun!
04:07 DruidicRifleman I agree wannabe
04:07 BatSteve wannabe1987: buy one!
04:07 Ponko i've got guns
04:07 wannabe1987 give me money!
04:07 tonsofpcs (I don't have an actual stat for that, but I can tell you that more people than not don't own a gun)
04:07 BatSteve earn money!
04:07 DruidicRifleman You should get a arsonal SLG21
04:07 * Ponko flexs biceps
04:07 DruidicRifleman wrong guns britboy
04:07 * lwq1996 does karate
04:08 * wannabe1987 needs hours before she can make money!
04:08 Ponko i know DruidicRifleman
04:08 * DruidicRifleman shoots lee in the but with a rubber bullet from 200 yards away demonstrating that karate is fail
04:08 Ponko Karate the pussy martial arts
04:09 Ponko Muai Thai that's brutal
04:09 Ponko but i like Ninjutsu i wish i had the money to take it up again
04:09 astro73|alice how good is Lord of War?
04:10 BatSteve Ponko: Karate - the Dane Cook of martial arts
04:10 BatSteve astro73|alice: depends on what you're looking for
04:10 BatSteve I liked it ok
04:10 Ponko lol
04:10 masterofmonks astro73: Teh Nicholas Cage movie?
04:10 Ponko who's Dane Cook?
04:10 astro73|alice masterofmonks: yes
04:10 masterofmonks It was pretty good.
04:10 Hackbat lwq1996, just don't try to send me any file
04:10 Hackbat s
04:10 Ponko BatSteve i've got something to say to you
04:11 * masterofmonks channels Seroster
04:11 Ponko i think Tomb Raider is a pretty cool girl Seh has a nice rack doesn't afraid of anything BatSteve
04:11 masterofmonks Ponko: you can admit your need for his manliness here in public, we won't judge you.
04:12 Ponko o_O
04:12 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: Like hell we won't. :P
04:12 Ponko i don't need his manliness lol
04:13 Ponko i have my own
04:13 BatSteve (:
04:14 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/barcode/src/base64.table.h
04:14 Ponko tbh i'm battered and bruised after playing last week in Scotland
04:15 wannabe1987 the scots beat you up?
04:15 Ponko not as such
04:16 Ponko but getting sacked 4 times and getting hit 12 times excluding that on Snow and Ice field
04:16 wannabe1987 if i do go gun shopping, i'd probably take BatSteve along....
04:16 Ponko wanna buy my right arm wannabe1987?
04:16 wannabe1987 speaking of BatSteve, are you free either march 2 at night(i assume) or april 15 at night(i assume)
04:16 wannabe1987 ewwwww
04:16 wannabe1987 no
04:16 wannabe1987 ew
04:16 wannabe1987 ew
04:16 wannabe1987 ew
04:16 wannabe1987 we
04:16 wannabe1987 ew*
04:16 BatSteve wannabe1987: I don't know about either of those days, what are they?
04:17 wannabe1987 i have  concerts then...i assume they're the same music each night
04:17 Ponko BatSteve: she wanted to buy a gun and i was offering her a high powered sniper rifle
04:17 Monkeh|Lap Ponko: Airsoft doesn't count, y'pansy. :P
04:18 Ponko -_-
04:18 wannabe1987 LOL
04:18 Ponko my right arm is what i was referring too
04:18 wannabe1987 ew
04:18 wannabe1987 ew
04:18 wannabe1987 ew
04:18 wannabe1987 i don't want your arms, silly
04:18 wannabe1987 you/yourgirlfriend/your *bodypart* needs them
04:18 Ponko Matthew Stafford would weep
04:18 Monkeh|Lap Ponko: And as I said, airsoft doesn't count. :P
04:19 Ponko tbh i do the drills he does
04:19 wannabe1987 lol
04:19 Ponko oh ha ha
04:20 Ponko it's weird how on TV a 60+ yard pass looks like an AMAZING throw but doing it looks like you didn't throw it far
04:20 Ponko or you over judge how far it went
04:21 * Monkeh|Lap likes throwing things further than that
04:21 eadthem wide angle lense
04:22 eadthem you talking about football?
04:22 wannabe1987 http://alpha61.com/primenumbershittingbear/  i'm confused
04:22 BotSteve Title: Alkulukuja Paskova Karhu
04:22 Ponko what things Monkeh|Lap
04:22 Monkeh|Lap Ponko: Small things. Made of lead.
04:22 Monkeh|Lap ;)
04:23 Ponko random question how old are you?
04:23 Monkeh|Lap 22
04:23 wannabe1987 seriously?!
04:23 wannabe1987 damn youngsters! :P
04:23 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Are we making you feel old, or just embarrassing you? :P
04:23 Ponko you're 24 shush
04:24 wannabe1987 lol
04:25 wannabe1987 hi devast8a
04:25 Ponko yay seeing my gf the other week was fun
04:26 Ponko playing football and hugging the gf
04:26 wannabe1987 lwq1996, DruidicRifleman, BatSteve, Ponko: http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/183213_506391749864_15302708_13417112_4674_n.jpg
04:26 Ponko what a week
04:26 astro73|alice wannabe1987: who's that?
04:26 wannabe1987 me....
04:27 BatSteve who's that wannabe1987?
04:27 wannabe1987 me....
04:27 Ponko EXPLOSION
04:27 BatSteve (:
04:27 devast8a Hi wannabe1987
04:27 Ponko ok wannabe1987 who dat?
04:27 wannabe1987 tyler
04:27 not_batsteve joined #thegeekgroup
04:27 not_batsteve who's that wannabe1987 ?
04:27 wannabe1987 your mom
04:27 astro73|alice wannabe1987: wasn't sure. Just checking.
04:27 not_batsteve nc
04:27 Ponko haha lol
04:27 not_batsteve (:
04:28 wannabe1987 .
04:28 Ponko well idk who could be controlling that it's not_batsteve that's for sure.....
04:28 wannabe1987 .seen Not_batsteve
04:28 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen Not_batsteve around.
04:28 wannabe1987 .seen not_batsteve
04:28 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen not_batsteve around.
04:28 wannabe1987 odd
04:28 Ponko .seen anyone
04:28 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen anyone around.
04:29 * Ponko shakes his head
04:29 BatSteve that's very interesting
04:29 BatSteve obviously we have some work to do on the bot
04:29 BatSteve wannabe1987: whose rifle?
04:29 BatSteve yours?
04:29 wannabe1987 x boyfriends
04:29 Ponko BatSteve: take the rum bottles away from him
04:29 wannabe1987 BotSteve, no more alcohol for you!
04:29 Monkeh|Lap Shiny barrel. Nice if you want the whole world to know you're there. p)
04:29 Monkeh|Lap Er, ;)
04:30 wannabe1987 BatSteve: that was down in dowagiac MI
04:31 Ponko BatSteve: do you miss the Silverdome?
04:31 wannabe1987 http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg2/qtloves/P1010092.jpg  this was the best photo i've taken of muzzle flash
04:31 wannabe1987 taken with a rather crappy camera, as well
04:31 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Not bad.
04:32 BatSteve I don't care a whole lot about the silverdome really
04:32 Monkeh|Lap About the only thing harder to get than an ejected case in focus.
04:32 Ponko epic muzzle flash
04:32 Ponko because you've got Ford Field now
04:33 Monkeh|Lap I've actually got some photos of the flash from blank firing somewhere
04:33 Monkeh|Lap Nothing like a minigun with a two foot long flame coming out the barrel
04:33 wannabe1987 lol
04:34 wannabe1987 i have some phtoos on disk of the case being ejected and flying end over end through the air
04:34 Ponko minigun like in Predator Monkeh|Lap
04:34 Monkeh|Lap Ponko: Smaller. One of the Resident Evil movies iirc.
04:34 Monkeh|Lap Custom built
04:34 Ponko ah right
04:34 Monkeh|Lap There's always this: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Dragonsbreath.jpg
04:34 Ponko i'd like to get my hands on that gun anyway
04:35 Monkeh|Lap Now THAT is a muzzle flash.
04:35 Monkeh|Lap Ponko: They actually trialed man-portable miniguns for a time.
04:35 DruidicRifleman yeah there we're issues with range safty
04:35 Ponko tbh Jesse Ventura carried that gun with some ease lol
04:36 Monkeh|Lap DruidicRifleman: Not to mention it not being practical to carry.
04:36 DruidicRifleman Yeah He was shooting blanks ponko
04:36 Ponko nah really
04:36 DruidicRifleman ...
04:36 Ponko i know that
04:37 Ponko i think there's one movie where they actually used real rounds
04:37 Monkeh|Lap ah yes, that was it
04:37 Monkeh|Lap XM214 Microgun
04:37 Monkeh|Lap 12.2kg, + ammo, tripod, batteries..
04:37 DruidicRifleman 52.5 lbs
04:37 Ponko uh oh ex i online
04:38 DruidicRifleman the 5.556 version was never fielded
04:38 DruidicRifleman and very rare
04:38 Monkeh|Lap DruidicRifleman: I did say it was trialed, not production.
04:38 Monkeh|Lap It wasn't practical.
04:38 DruidicRifleman yeah
04:38 DruidicRifleman not worth the weight in the .223
04:38 Monkeh|Lap Too heavy, too large, too much time to set up and take down
04:39 DruidicRifleman And ROF is to low for infantry use
04:39 DruidicRifleman NOW
04:39 Monkeh|Lap The two people required to carry and set it up are much more useful with a minimi each.
04:39 Monkeh|Lap DruidicRifleman: Variable up to 4000rpm is too low?
04:39 DruidicRifleman At start up
04:40 DruidicRifleman takes a bit to get up to that speed
04:40 DruidicRifleman the issue also
04:40 Monkeh|Lap Yes, it takes a while to spin up
04:40 Monkeh|Lap Eating ammo is the biggest problem
04:40 DruidicRifleman YEP!!!
04:40 DruidicRifleman now i have tosay
04:41 Monkeh|Lap A man can carry 1200 rounds in with a Minimi and burn it off in 20 minutes max
04:41 DruidicRifleman 2 micro guns And the replacement for the Mk19
04:41 Monkeh|Lap And that's at what, 1200rpm or so
04:41 DruidicRifleman In a cessna super cargo
04:41 DruidicRifleman fired out one sided
04:41 DruidicRifleman Side
04:42 BatSteve .yt it costs $400,000 to fire this weapon for 12 seconds
04:42 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mY5qJHZCz2I
04:42 Monkeh|Lap Up to 1150 for the Minimi apparently. Bit slower than I thought.
04:42 DruidicRifleman And a recoilles rifle
04:42 Monkeh|Lap DruidicRifleman: The term 'recoilless' is quite misleading. :)
04:42 DruidicRifleman Yes and no
04:42 DruidicRifleman It's not Recoilless
04:42 DruidicRifleman Just the recoil IS not felt
04:42 DruidicRifleman bu the user or vehicle
04:43 Monkeh|Lap But compared to the recoil of a cannon of equal calibre it may as well be.
04:43 DruidicRifleman A light Support gunship
04:43 Monkeh|Lap Also they're usually not actually rifles.
04:43 DruidicRifleman ...
04:44 DruidicRifleman yeah i know
04:44 Ponko epic win BatSteve
04:44 sndwrx I got to play with some simulated firearms last year.  Accurate to 95% actual weight and 90% actual recoil.
04:44 sndwrx It was pretty cool.
04:45 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: They're not quite the same.
04:45 Monkeh|Lap Might be similar in terms of force but the delivery is wrong.
04:45 sndwrx I'm sure they're not, but it was for a major defense contractor so I'd imagine it's just about as close as you can get without firing real rounds.
04:46 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: That's like saying 'a spork is as close as you can get to a fork without having a fork'. ;)
04:46 sndwrx ha
04:46 Monkeh|Lap It's just not the same.
04:47 sndwrx Well it kicked against my shoulder the way I'd expect an assault rifle would, from what little I know about shooting rifles and an AK.
04:48 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: We'll have to get you a real one. You'll soon notice the difference. ;)
04:49 eadthem final.servegame.com/public/barcode/src/base64.cpp    i love binary math
04:49 eadthem now   did i make any mistakes   that is the question  :p
04:49 wannabe1987 dude, sndwrx, an ak-47 almost knocked me over a few years ago :/
04:49 sndwrx I've fired rifles and an AK, and several hand guns.
04:49 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: And that's a pansy calibre!
04:49 sndwrx So, while I don't know how all guns behave, it gives one a good idea.
04:50 wannabe1987 i've fired rifles, ak47, and handguns.  sadly none recently....
04:50 Monkeh|Lap Try a .338, those'll give you a fright. And sore arms carrying the thing.
04:50 eadthem lol  it might show up on the server if i told it to copy the files  :p
04:50 sndwrx Either way, it was pretty darn cool being in a private development facility for an armed services training simulation company.
04:51 * wannabe1987 needs local friends with ammo and weaponry
04:51 wannabe1987 i bet. who for?
04:51 sndwrx Was a job I did, building an immersive 360-degree simulation environment.
04:52 wannabe1987 sweet
04:52 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Names, man!
04:52 sndwrx Probably shouldn't share names.
04:52 wannabe1987 i figured as much
04:53 Monkeh|Lap I actually have a feeling I know of the system you're on about
04:53 sndwrx It wasn't top top secret, but it was a private commission that due to our company's efforts is placing them ahead of certain competition.
04:53 Monkeh|Lap But there are a few going around
04:53 sndwrx And it sure was a lot of fun!
04:53 sndwrx haha.
04:54 wannabe1987 sounds like it
04:54 wannabe1987 you've worked some interesting jobs
04:55 sndwrx I've been fortunate, yeah.
04:55 sndwrx Not as cool as a lot of people have done, though.
04:55 wannabe1987 such as?
04:55 sndwrx Oh, I don't know.
04:55 sndwrx There's always something bigger and cooler out there.
04:56 wannabe1987 yeah....like BatSteve, he teaches idiots to fly planes!
04:57 sndwrx See, now that's a pretty cool job!
04:57 sndwrx I'd like to learn to pilot helicopters, at least.
04:57 BatSteve hey!
04:57 BatSteve they're not all idiots
04:57 wannabe1987 lol
04:57 wannabe1987 ok
04:57 sndwrx That's right.  Some are /rich/ idiots.
04:57 * sndwrx chuckles.
04:57 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: five million parts flying in close formation. :)
04:57 wannabe1987 yeah....like BatSteve, he teaches idiots/non-idiots to fly planes!
04:57 BatSteve not to overgeneralize, but every student who has previously been a member of the military (except for one notable idiot) has not been an idiot
04:57 wannabe1987 that better?
04:58 BatSteve much better
04:58 * BatSteve really likes teaching former military to fly
04:58 BatSteve best students ever
04:58 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: They don't generally get to join the military to become ex-military if they're too dumb to learn
04:59 sndwrx Did someone link this in here earlier, or did I get it from a different channel?
04:59 sndwrx http://www.daskeyboard.com/model-s-professional-silent/
04:59 BotSteve Title: Buy Das Keyboard Model S Professional Silent Mechanical Keyboard
04:59 wannabe1987 gibbs: once a marine always a marine
04:59 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: I'm sure it's turned up in this channel before.
04:59 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i watch glee
04:59 BotSteve I don't think so
04:59 wannabe1987 awwww
05:00 sndwrx Well, wherever it was, I found it today.
05:00 wannabe1987 ooooo theres also NCIS to watch Hmmmmm
05:00 wannabe1987 NCIS it is!
05:02 wannabe1987 S09E01
05:02 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
05:03 wannabe1987 TOASTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
05:03 Toastdude Wannabe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
05:03 BatSteve cooooool:  http://www.algo-class.org/
05:03 BotSteve Title: Design and Analysis of Algorithms I
05:04 Toastdude BatSteve!
05:04 sndwrx http://www.flickr.com/photos/girliemac/6508022985/in/set-72157628409467125
05:04 BotSteve Title: 404 - Not Found | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
05:05 sndwrx http://www.flickr.com/photos/girliemac/sets/72157628409467125/detail/
05:05 BotSteve Title: HTTP Status Cats - a set on Flickr
05:06 wannabe1987 sndwrx: i showed my father your background and told him the lights blink and he said that'd be highly annoying
05:06 BatSteve hi toast!
05:07 * sndwrx snickers.
05:07 sndwrx Not only do the edge lights blink, but the tree lights blink as well.
05:07 wannabe1987 o god
05:07 sndwrx And the background rotates among winter themed images every 30 seconds.
05:07 wannabe1987 .........
05:08 wannabe1987 and the status cats were cool :D
05:08 eadthem mmm found a mistake
05:09 eadthem shifts start at 1  not 0
05:09 sndwrx But anyway my screen is normally cluttered with a dozen windows, so I don't even see what's going on behind them anyway.
05:09 wannabe1987 same
05:11 wannabe1987 fail: http://cheezfailbooking.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/funny-facebook-fails-me-and-spac.png  spac(spock) is NOT in starwars
05:11 Ponko http://www.flickr.com/photos/girliemac/6508023259/in/set-72157628409467125/ i do like that
05:11 BotSteve Title: 409 - Conflict | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
05:13 CaptainNiobe http://www.flickr.com/photos/girliemac/6508023119/in/set-72157628409467125 this is my fave :D
05:13 BotSteve Title: 406 - Not Acceptable | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
05:16 astro73|alice Neutrinos: Vampires of physics. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAAmAbJvvJg
05:16 BotSteve Title: What is a Neutrino? - YouTube
05:22 * wannabe1987 is happy to report she was able to reach the high A in church tonight :D
05:23 Toastdude Wow...
05:23 Toastdude That's pretty high
05:23 wannabe1987 mhm
05:23 wannabe1987 sometimes i can get it, othertimes my throat closes up...it closed up in rehearsal, but i got it during the svc when it mattered....
05:27 Toastdude Oh, Hi Niobe!
05:27 astro73|alice sorry, i played trombone. I'm fuzzy on which A is "high"
05:27 BatSteve .t est
05:27 BotSteve Mon, 19 Dec 2011 00:27:57 EST
05:28 BatSteve nothing good happens on the internet after midnight
05:28 BatSteve therefore, I'm off
05:28 BatSteve so long everyone!
05:28 wannabe1987 the one on a legder line above the treble cleff
05:28 lwq1996 lol
05:28 wannabe1987 by BatSteve!
05:28 wannabe1987 bye*
05:28 Toastdude You play it currently, astro73|alice?
05:28 Toastdude Bye BatSteve!
05:28 lwq1996 whats the highest note you ever it wannabe
05:28 astro73|alice Toastdude: not currently, not since my first semester at college
05:29 wannabe1987 A or B when i was younger
05:29 Toastdude Ah, okay. What was the highest you could reach?
05:29 lwq1996 with my trumpet i can hit a high D
05:29 wannabe1987 B
05:29 wannabe1987 with my violin i can hit the G above that A
05:29 wannabe1987 ....
05:30 wannabe1987 .cookie lwq1996
05:30 BotSteve Here you go, lwq1996, I baked you a dark chocolate cranberry cookie!
05:30 wannabe1987 .cookie Toastdude
05:30 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I baked you a sugar cookie!
05:30 Toastdude No, tlaking to astro
05:30 wannabe1987 .cookie astro73|alice
05:30 BotSteve Here you go, astro73|alice, I baked you an oatmeal cookie!
05:30 Toastdude Danke
05:30 wannabe1987 .cookie exor674
05:30 BotSteve Here you go, exor674, I baked you a christmas cookie!
05:30 Toastdude .cookie everyone
05:30 BotSteve Here you go, everyone, I baked you a butter pecan cookie!
05:30 astro73|alice Toastdude: not much. I was never good. I think I made it to a middle D, maybe?
05:31 astro73|alice *middle B
05:31 CaptainNiobe ... that might need to be changed... lol...
05:31 sndwrx .cookie cookie monster
05:31 BotSteve Here you go, cookie monster, I baked you a frosted sugar cookie!
05:31 astro73|alice maybe an A440
05:31 wannabe1987 .cookie CaptainNiobe
05:31 BotSteve Here you go, CaptainNiobe, I baked you a pecan cookie!
05:31 lwq1996 i can go as low as a low A
05:31 Toastdude That's way above the staff, astro
05:32 CaptainNiobe .cookie wannabe1987
05:32 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a Moravian spice cookie!
05:32 wannabe1987 above the bass cleff ....
05:32 * wannabe1987 can play double bass as well
05:32 astro73|alice lwq1996: on trumpet? You mean in concert pitch or trumpet pitches?
05:32 astro73|alice Toastdude: middle C wasn't unusual
05:32 lwq1996 Bb scale
05:32 astro73|alice lwq1996: trumpet pitches
05:33 lwq1996 yes trumpet pitches
05:33 astro73|alice lwq1996: I think we're discussing concert tunings
05:33 wannabe1987 concert pitch confuses me....
05:33 Toastdude You mean the first ledger line, astro?
05:33 astro73|alice wannabe1987: that just means that middle A is 440Hz
05:33 astro73|alice Toastdude: yes
05:33 wannabe1987 middle a?
05:33 wannabe1987 my open a(string) is a440
05:34 astro73|alice Toastdude: I was 3rd trombone, though. I even got a bass instrument from the school
05:34 astro73|alice wannabe1987: that's the concert A above middle C, or the ledger line between the staves
05:34 lwq1996 next year i get to play 2nd trumpet
05:35 astro73|alice Toastdude: being able to play scales down to pedel Bb (that's a lot of ledger lines) is fun
05:35 * wannabe1987 has played symphonic and with symphonies, but the concert dealies still confuse me :P don't try explaining it at 12:30am
05:35 astro73|alice wannabe1987: it's all the same stuff, just a different anchor point
05:35 wannabe1987 yeah, i figure
05:36 astro73|alice i won't bother trying to explain the mathematical reasons why it's just how you name it
05:36 wannabe1987 thank you
05:37 astro73|alice the difference is at what frequency you put your middle c
05:37 wannabe1987 my bestie is going for her masters in applied mathmatics....she's doing research this summer and can't figure out how to explain it in english. :P
05:38 Toastdude astro73|alice: I can play an F above the staff very clearly and even got to a Bb Waay above the staff
05:38 astro73|alice wannabe1987: that's not surprising
05:38 wannabe1987 so i have no clue what she's doing, but if she's happy, thats good
05:39 astro73|alice Toastdude: nice. I've seen charts for trombones listing as many as 12 partials, or above the treble cleff
05:39 wannabe1987 she's applying for grad schools for her doctorate in math....
05:39 Toastdude Oh wow
05:39 eadthem what can you do with a doctorate in just math
05:39 wannabe1987 teach at the college level
05:39 wannabe1987 research
05:39 wannabe1987 idk
05:39 wannabe1987 she wants to teach at calvin college, i believe
05:40 astro73|alice eadthem: it depends. I believe my cousin has an advanced degree in combinatorics
05:40 eadthem shes one of those freeks that likes to hide things like for loops under things called laplace
05:41 eadthem ?
05:41 wannabe1987 .define combinatorids
05:41 BotSteve Couldn't get any definitions for combinatorids.
05:41 wannabe1987 .define combinatorics
05:41 BotSteve combinatorics — noun: 1. (mathematics) a branch of mathematics that studies (usually finite) collections of objects that satisfy specified criteria
05:41 astro73|alice Toastdude: yeah. As it turns out, the exact positions shift with the partial.
05:42 Toastdude Yeah... You go to like 1 1/2 position for a g or something...
05:42 eadthem they shuld teach math with c++    laplace  summing  avrages  statistics    all of it
05:43 astro73|alice Toastdude: they also get longer as you go down. That's why you need 2 valves to go from low Bb to pedal Bb. The difference between the partials is that big.
05:43 wannabe1987 no, my siste would hat it....she has stats next semester and she's going to freak
05:44 eadthem 1/2 the shit i learned in math in highschool i didnt understand until i started realy getting in to programming,  and the irony was they wouldnt let me take programming in highschool because i wasnt good enough at math :p
05:44 astro73|alice eadthem: Nothing should be taught with C++. and certainly NOT advanced mathematics
05:44 Toastdude I can play pedal Bb in first... I don't have valves, either
05:44 astro73|alice Toastdude: you can do it on standard 'bones. It's the stuff in between that's difficult.
05:45 astro73|alice wannabe1987: statistics is barely mathematics
05:45 Toastdude Yeah, I have to jump from low E natural to Bb without being able to play in between
05:45 wannabe1987 my sister is going for secondary education, teaching mathematics...so she has to take stats
05:46 astro73|alice Toastdude: Exactly. My bass had two valves to cover the difference. Never really mastered it, though.
05:46 astro73|alice Toastdude: Strangely enough, I hate the way musical notation works, esp with chords and such. I despised the music theory class I took.
05:47 Toastdude Lol
05:47 wannabe1987 music theory sucks anyways....i took AP music theory....
05:47 astro73|alice The fact that the prof barely spoke english and read from the book did not help at all.
05:48 wannabe1987 yeah...that would be difficult
05:48 Toastdude What kind of trombone did you have?
05:49 wannabe1987 its pauley perrette!
05:49 astro73|alice Toastdude: currently? Just my student one I got when I started. The bass was just a loaner from my HS.
05:50 Toastdude Oh, okay
05:50 wannabe1987 you?
05:50 Toastdude What?
05:51 wannabe1987 what kind of trombone do you have?
05:51 Toastdude Oh, an Elkhart
05:51 Ponko everytime i go on holiday my wife always gets pregnant i go on holiday she gets pregnant
05:51 Ponko so this year i'm taking her with me
05:52 Toastdude ...
05:52 astro73|alice I think mine's a yamaha? *shrug* it's really simple and I haven't pulled it out in years.
05:52 wannabe1987 can you still play?
05:53 astro73|alice theoretically? I remember how
05:53 astro73|alice but my chops are probably crap
05:53 astro73|alice not that they were much good to begin with....
05:53 Ponko astro73|alice: we don't want to know about your sex life
05:54 * astro73|alice smacks Ponko with a trout
05:54 Ponko "it's really simple and I haven't pulled it out in year."
05:54 Ponko lol
05:54 wannabe1987 ...
05:55 astro73|alice wannabe1987: I've also been known to make noise with a didgeridoo, but I never learned how to actually play it
05:55 wannabe1987 interesting
05:56 Toastdude I hate coughing...
05:56 astro73|alice why did you ask if I could still play?
05:56 astro73|alice I'm not taking gigs.
05:57 wannabe1987 just curious.  i stopped playing violin for three years and it was like riding a bike - i still knew how....i'm not as good as i was tho
05:57 astro73|alice I've thought about trying again occasionally. but I don't have much interest
05:57 wannabe1987 i def wouldn't be allowed back in youth symphony...
05:58 astro73|alice no. I think you have to be a youth for that.
05:58 wannabe1987 well, yes....between ages of 12-21
05:59 astro73|alice they let in people that old?
05:59 astro73|alice :P
05:59 wannabe1987 yes
06:01 astro73|alice it might be cool to be able to really play. But I'm not interested enough to keep up with the practice.
06:01 wannabe1987 mhm
06:02 wannabe1987 i want to hook up my violin to boden's reubens tube....
06:02 astro73|alice that's always fun.
06:03 astro73|alice or you could convince a friend to make one
06:03 wannabe1987 lolololol
06:03 wannabe1987 like my friends have drils and pipes and spare propane
06:03 astro73|alice *shrug*
06:03 astro73|alice i have a hand drill
06:05 Ponko oh balls BatSteve is away
06:05 astro73|alice well, my dad does. But I live with him, so that counts.
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06:06 wannabe1987 true....
06:06 Ponko wtf happened there?
06:06 wannabe1987 dad doesn't have anything it sucks
06:06 astro73|alice lame
06:06 wannabe1987 you disappeared and came back :D
06:06 astro73|alice everyone should have some basic hand tools.
06:06 wannabe1987 well yes
06:06 astro73|alice drill, saw, screw drivers.
06:07 Ponko .w Detriot Red Wings
06:07 BotSteve "The Detroit Red Wings are a professional ice hockey team based in Detroit, Michigan." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detriot_Red_Wings
06:07 wannabe1987 he has screwdrivers, hammer, saw, mom has a drill
06:07 astro73|alice it's amazing what you can do with that much.
06:07 wannabe1987 and he finnally has a full socket set :D
06:07 astro73|alice yeah!
06:07 wannabe1987 i know!
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06:08 astro73|alice now you can really tighten bolts
06:08 wannabe1987 lol
06:08 wannabe1987 hi kate
06:08 * lwq1996 waves night
06:08 Katemonster HI
06:08 lwq1996 later everybody
06:08 * Katemonster kills EVERYTHING
06:08 astro73|alice Katemonster: you're just in time! We're talking about tools that wannabe1987's parents don't have.
06:08 astro73|alice meep!
06:08 * astro73|alice is dead
06:08 wannabe1987 lol
06:08 wannabe1987 dead?!
06:08 wannabe1987 o
06:08 astro73|alice at least I have company
06:09 wannabe1987 don't die
06:09 wannabe1987 uh oh....
06:09 wannabe1987 what happened kate?
06:09 wannabe1987 lwq19961
06:09 wannabe1987 !*
06:09 Ponko SHE'S GOT A GUN
06:09 astro73|alice didn't you see? Katemonster killed everything.
06:09 astro73|alice since i'm part of everything, she killed me.
06:09 lwq1996 yes?
06:09 wannabe1987 yeah, i red that afterwards :P
06:09 wannabe1987 pm
06:09 lwq1996 oh
06:09 PISSEDMONSTER i've been in a communications blackout for 7 hours
06:09 wannabe1987 why?!
06:09 PISSEDMONSTER my internet connection was down
06:09 astro73|alice laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
06:09 PISSEDMONSTER and i could receive texts but not send out
06:09 PISSEDMONSTER on my cell
06:10 astro73|alice that's just obnoxious
06:10 Ponko now that's annoying
06:10 astro73|alice what happened?
06:10 wannabe1987 ....
06:10 wannabe1987 couldn't call someone?
06:10 PISSEDMONSTER i restarted my phone just now, and suddenly everything works.
06:10 wannabe1987 no landline?
06:10 wannabe1987 no parents phones?
06:10 pegasus hoohoo magic
06:11 PISSEDMONSTER no one to call.  the land line worked, and i would use it if i had an emergency, but i generally dislike talking on the phone.  ever.
06:11 pegasus kate: remember the words of roy trenneman: "have you tried turning it off and on again?"
06:11 PISSEDMONSTER which is what i did, and it worked
06:11 PISSEDMONSTER but
06:11 PISSEDMONSTER BUT
06:11 PISSEDMONSTER there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON
06:11 pegasus you say that like there needs to be
06:11 Toastdude Bye all
06:12 PISSEDMONSTER that restarting my PHONE should suddenly, magically, make my MODEM work
06:12 astro73|alice PISSEDMONSTER: I have iced molasses cookies. Would that diminish your rage any?
06:12 Ponko Nicklas Lidstrom the first EUROPEAN NHL champion
06:12 astro73|alice and you're right. That's stupid beyond words.
06:12 PISSEDMONSTER if you could teleport them here, it definitely would.
06:12 Ponko well first European Captain to win the Stanley CUp
06:12 pegasus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8
06:12 BotSteve Title: IT Crowd - Have You Tried Turning It Off And On Again? - YouTube
06:12 PISSEDMONSTER also fermented molasses
06:12 * PISSEDMONSTER goes to get the bottle of fermented molasses
06:13 astro73|alice molasses booze?
06:13 PISSEDMONSTER rum
06:13 astro73|alice ah
06:13 wannabe1987 bye toasty
06:13 astro73|alice because alcohol makes everything better
06:13 wannabe1987 yes
06:14 PISSEDMONSTER last time i checked (granted it has been a while), rum is sugar cane alcohol, basically molasses booze
06:14 * lwq1996 wraps kate up in a blanket and gives her a cup of hot tea
06:14 PISSEDMONSTER it really doesn't.  i hardly ever drink.  i just feel that a shot (only one) would help make me feel not-stabby
06:14 * lwq1996 slips rum in it
06:15 astro73|alice lwq1996: that's probably a much better idea.
06:15 astro73|alice and I am a fan of feeling "not stabby"
06:15 lwq1996 kate i didnt get why you are pissed
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06:15 Katemonster electronics woes
06:16 lwq1996 hoes?
06:16 astro73|alice lwq1996: because her telecommunications technologies all failed her at once
06:16 wannabe1987 astro: same
06:16 lwq1996 ah
06:16 wannabe1987 hoes != woes
06:16 Ponko1 lwq1996: get your mind out of the gutter lol
06:16 wannabe1987 ....
06:16 Katemonster somehow, my cellphone not working caused my dsl model to also not be working.  because that totally makes sense  >:O
06:16 wannabe1987 and lee, go to bed dear.
06:16 * lwq1996 gives kate a new computer and a sledge to break the old one
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06:16 Katemonster *modem, not model
06:17 Katemonster heh, if only
06:17 wannabe1987 hi Electricguy
06:17 * lwq1996 gives kate an ipad to replace her phone
06:17 * astro73|alice steps out to become corporeal again
06:18 Ponko lol
06:18 lwq1996 lol
06:18 wannabe1987 an ipad != iphone...
06:18 Katemonster i needed More Magic, i think.
06:18 astro73|alice that's better.
06:18 lwq1996 lol
06:18 astro73|alice Katemonster: Did you flip the switch?
06:19 lwq1996 ipad=oversized iphone
06:19 Katemonster if i knew where the hell it was, i would.  someone probably found it and flipped it just to piss me off.
06:19 astro73|alice you should find them and scare them
06:19 lwq1996 scaring them is eve to much
06:20 * lwq1996 thinks kate should to to the shooting range tomorrow with all her electronics that isnt working
06:21 Katemonster that would be irresponsible, as i have nothing to replace them with.
06:21 lwq1996 ah
06:21 * lwq1996 needs to go to bed
06:21 Katemonster also Mosina has been asking for some love lately, but i don't have very much ammo  :(
06:21 lwq1996 later everyone
06:21 wannabe1987 night lee
06:21 Katemonster night
06:22 astro73|alice guns without ammo is a sad thing indeed
06:22 wannabe1987 awwwww
06:22 lwq1996 how much does ammo cost for it
06:22 wannabe1987 lwq1996 go to bed!
06:22 lwq1996 sorry sorry i like how that girl thinks though
06:23 wannabe1987 "that girl"?
06:23 lwq1996 shes like me but with more anger and with out "that part"
06:23 * Ponko beats and kicks the shit out of lwq1996 to get him to go to bed
06:23 lwq1996 fuck off ponko
06:23 Ponko go to bed then and i might
06:23 wannabe1987 i'm not watching
06:24 Ponko hahahaha wow that's soo wrong
06:24 wannabe1987 ....
06:24 * lwq1996 gives ponko the download that gave him the virus
06:24 Katemonster $0.18 per shot
06:24 astro73|alice Katemonster: that sounds expensive.
06:24 lwq1996 hmmm
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06:24 Katemonster that's actually pretty cheap
06:24 wannabe1987 hi ajt
06:24 lwq1996 .c 15/20
06:24 Ponko $40,000 to fire this gun for 12 seconds
06:24 BotSteve 0.75
06:25 lwq1996 wow that is cheap
06:25 Ponko TF2 ftw
06:25 lwq1996 .30-30 shells cost 0.75 per shot
06:25 Katemonster if you don't know how to shop, yeah they do
06:25 Katemonster :o
06:25 lwq1996 well federals are 15 dollars for a pack of 20
06:26 Ponko .me pulls the plug on lwq1996s computer
06:26 Electricguy hi hi wannabe1987 :)
06:26 lwq1996 and my dad does outfit his own sometimes
06:26 lwq1996 but still
06:27 Katemonster looking on ammoengine...
06:27 lwq1996 you ever try reusing the cases and outfitin your own
06:27 wannabe1987 how are you, Electricguy?
06:27 wannabe1987 lwq, tyler (my x) does that....
06:27 Electricguy tired, but otherwise good :)
06:27 Electricguy and you?
06:27 Electricguy awesome hardmonica beatbox! :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vZFLxa6O0E
06:27 BotSteve Title: Dave Crowe Beatboxer in gothenburg Amazing Harmonica/beatbox - YouTube
06:27 Katemonster you mean handloading?  yes, i used to own a rifle that i had to handload for, because ammunition was no longer made for it, by anyone
06:27 Electricguy harmonica*
06:28 Katemonster .30-30, prvi partizan, flat-nose soft point, 170 grain, 20 rounds, $0.67/round
06:28 lwq1996 wow. that old or just not made anymore?
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06:28 Katemonster but yeah, most centerfire rifle ammunition that isn't military-surplus is going to be expensive like that.
06:28 wannabe1987 hi Experimentonomen
06:28 astro73|alice i know a guy that does his own rounds. No idea why.
06:29 lwq1996 yeah, though freaking rim fire is so cheap
06:29 Experimentonomen guten morgen peepz
06:29 lwq1996 get like 100 rounds for what maby 7.50
06:29 Katemonster i had a mauser 98 that fired an old mauser sporting cartridge from the 1920s, no one had made it since then; 6.5x57mm Mauser; have to resize the cases from 7mm Spanish Mauser brass
06:29 lwq1996 astro its much cheaper to sometimes
06:29 Katemonster astro73: there are two reasons
06:30 astro73|alice i know they were center-fire, and I'm sure they were rifles, and i wouldn't put it past him to DIY to save $
06:30 Katemonster one, 75% of the cost of ammo is the brass casing, which you can use over and over again until it splits; if you anneal them properly, they can last up to 40 shots before they split down the neck
06:31 * wannabe1987 has casings in her back window of her car....
06:31 lwq1996 im sure the cops love that wannabe :P
06:31 wannabe1987 they never notice...its always my family that notices first....
06:31 Katemonster two, every rifle has a perfect sweet-spot for ammo that it likes; bullet weight, bullet shape, powder charge, powder type, etc.   you can get close by trying all the available over-the-counter options, but if you're going for extreme accuracy, you pretty much have to roll your own smokes there.
06:32 wannabe1987 "are those bullets?!" no, grandma, tehy're spent casings from bullets i've shot.
06:32 lwq1996 lol
06:32 astro73|alice I should note that I've never picked up a real gun, much less shot one.
06:32 Katemonster shame.
06:32 wannabe1987 damn
06:32 lwq1996 wow
06:33 lwq1996 astro you live in the us?
06:33 * Experimentonomen has fired a shotgun
06:33 lwq1996 US*
06:33 Katemonster and yeah, they have to be centerfire; you can't reload rimfire ammo; the cases have to be melted down and reformed from scratch
06:33 lwq1996 guage experimentonmen?
06:33 eadthem so someone at work wants this project to use mssql for some reason
06:33 astro73|alice lwq1996: yes, not far from the lab.
06:33 lwq1996 wow
06:33 astro73|alice eadthem: I'm sorry. You should figure out why.
06:34 wannabe1987 lwq1996, i have met astro more than once IN PERSON :P
06:34 eadthem im looking at the code required to talk to mssql in c/c++   and im thinking     they can deal with this MS api bull    ile do mysql and leave it at that
06:34 wannabe1987 i knew him before the lab moved into town actually :P
06:34 Experimentonomen lwq1996, not sure what the swdish ones are, but the ammo is around 1cm diameter
06:34 lwq1996 i dont keep tabs on people anymore too complicated because we get a new person every month
06:34 astro73|alice wannabe1987 and I have mutual friends, even
06:34 eadthem mysql_query() ftw
06:34 wannabe1987 of course :D
06:34 astro73|alice eadthem: SQL in C? why?
06:35 eadthem what else you going to make a gtk app with?
06:35 * lwq1996 goes to bed
06:35 lwq1996 later for reals
06:35 wannabe1987 night dear
06:35 wannabe1987 :)
06:37 astro73|alice eadthem: Python? Ruby? Mono?
06:37 astro73|alice eadthem: hell, I think PHP might have GTK bindings at this point.
06:38 astro73|alice (not that I would recomend using them)
06:39 Katemonster Experimentonomen: that's a 68 gauge, better known as a .410
06:39 astro73|alice eadthem: Ok, any language you want: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B#Programming_language_bindings
06:39 BotSteve Title: GTK+ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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06:41 wannabe1987 o shit, its Seroster
06:41 Seroster :c
06:41 Seroster Morning niobe
06:41 wannabe1987 hi
06:41 Sgt_Lemming mmm, copying 101'201 files across gigglebit takes a while
06:42 wannabe1987 gigglebit?
06:42 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, you need less porn man.
06:42 Seroster CaptainNiobe!
06:42 Sgt_Lemming gigabit network
06:42 wannabe1987 oh
06:42 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, E-books
06:42 CaptainNiobe SEROSTER! *tackles*
06:42 wannabe1987 ...
06:42 Sgt_Lemming copying them to my tablet so I have something to read with me at all times
06:42 Seroster Yeah right Sgt_Lemming
06:43 Sgt_Lemming my porn folder is decidedly larger, but a lot less files
06:43 Sgt_Lemming 83.8GB for 101 thousand files
06:43 Sgt_Lemming be pretty small porn :-P
06:43 Sgt_Lemming either that or a hell of a lot of pictures
06:45 astro73|alice BotSteve: tell eadthem that he can use pretty much any language with GTK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B#Programming_language_bindings
06:45 BotSteve astro73|alice: I'll pass that on when eadb is around.
06:45 BotSteve Title: GTK+ - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
06:45 * Experimentonomen erases and formats Sgt_Lemming's hdd :P
06:46 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, eh, I have backups
06:46 Ponko oh porn is mentioned and who's at the heart of it? Seroster how surprising
06:46 Sgt_Lemming yeah
06:47 Sgt_Lemming my porn folder is about 3x the size, but 1/20th the file count :-P
06:47 CaptainNiobe if theere's too much more on it i'm going to have to start pointing fingers... to NSFW... :D
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06:47 wannabe1987 agreed
06:48 Sgt_Lemming at least mine nots categorized, I know people who do that :-P
06:48 Sgt_Lemming you know one of them too CaptainNiobe :-P
06:48 Seroster Lol
06:48 Seroster Shutup ponko
06:48 Ponko hey you can't deny the truth though
06:49 * Experimentonomen erases, formats and reformats all of Sgt_Lemming's hdd's and backups :P
06:49 CaptainNiobe i may do so, but that's not discussion for this channel now, is it, Sgt_Lemming? :P
06:49 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, not all of it is on my hard drives :-P
06:49 Sgt_Lemming CaptainNiobe, discussing the concept or keeping of really isn't nsfw
06:50 Ponko the types of porns and describing it is
06:50 Sgt_Lemming yeah
06:50 CaptainNiobe don't say how big the filesizes are then :P
06:51 * wannabe1987 falls asleep watching NCIS
06:51 Sgt_Lemming what? how is that nsfw?
06:51 wannabe-zz night!!!!
06:51 CaptainNiobe lol... we don't need to know how much porn someone has in their collection... :D
06:51 Seroster Cya folks
06:51 CaptainNiobe not here anyways
06:51 Seroster Gotta leave for school
06:51 Sgt_Lemming that doesn't make it nsfw CaptainNiobe
06:51 Ponko describing what goes on in the porn isn't NSFW in your eyes Sgt_Lemming
06:51 Sgt_Lemming yes it is
06:52 Seroster Oh come on, take it to nsfw Sgt_Lemming, we don't wanna hear about your pr0nz (not here)
06:52 Seroster Please go on about it in depth in the other room thou =)
06:52 Sgt_Lemming rofl
06:52 Ponko lol
06:52 wannabe-zz ask masterofmonks if you have questions....lol night
06:52 Ponko going deep about porn Seroster
06:52 * CaptainNiobe hides from both Seroster and Sgt_Lemming
06:52 Seroster Might even wanna share some, sarge
06:53 Ponko HAHAHA LOL
06:54 Sgt_Lemming seroster, I can send you a file listing if you really want :-P
06:54 Seroster Other. Room.
06:54 Seroster Fucking stralian.
06:54 CaptainNiobe LOL!!! oh, boy, don't tempt him...
06:54 Seroster Cya folks
06:54 Seroster And Sgt_Lemming, i still love you like a brother.
06:54 CaptainNiobe later, sero :)
06:54 Sgt_Lemming I'll hold you to that Seroster^Away :-P
06:58 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 12-18-11 Joe rules, I paint, and Christine rocks hardcore http://youtu.be/vr33aSwtlIw
07:00 Ponko Seroster^Away needs to be more like Nicklas Lidstrom
07:00 Ponko a mature leader
07:00 CaptainNiobe who's that?
07:00 Ponko ask the people of Detriot
07:01 Ponko if BatSteve-Away was HERE
07:03 Sgt_Lemming http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9c/33%2C000-volt_electric_power_line_into_Fort_Knox_.jpg <--- that's a lot of pixels
07:09 CaptainNiobe why would someone upload an image that big? O.O
07:13 Sgt_Lemming I have a few bigger ones
07:13 Sgt_Lemming 9104 x 9104 pixels
07:14 CaptainNiobe O.O
07:15 Sgt_Lemming actually, biggest one I have is 16384 x 8192
07:16 CaptainNiobe O.O!!! holy cow! that's... wow...
07:16 Ponko i've seen bigger
07:17 Sgt_Lemming http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Earthlights_dmsp.jpg <--- there it is if anyone wants it
07:19 Ponko time for a nap
07:25 MadManMarkAu Wow, look at west US compared to east US
07:25 pegasus dragon-test.png[4] PNG 24576x16384 24576x16384+0+0 8-bit DirectClass 10.19mb
07:25 pegasus mandel-26754.png[2] PNG 26754x26754 26754x26754+0+0 8-bit DirectClass 35.04mb
07:26 pegasus the 26k square mandelbrot is the biggest image i have, pretty sure.
07:26 pegasus took days to render.
07:27 pegasus uncompressed it's just shy of 2gig (2,147,329,548 bytes)
07:36 dr_jkl digestive systems going in reverse FTL
07:44 pegasus it's what happens when you eat with your ass.
07:50 Sgt_Lemming MadManMarkAu, look at West AU vs East AU :-P
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10:57 Eleanors Hi
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11:05 Geek101 Hi there all
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11:14 masterofmonks Morning Geek101
11:17 CaptainNiobe mom, can you re-op me please and make sure it sticks? lol... sero failed...
11:19 CaptainNiobe masterofmonks?
11:19 masterofmonks I think he must have neglected to mention that it would be a tempory situation.
11:20 CaptainNiobe he didn't, however, it looks like it may be more perminant at this point in time.
11:20 CaptainNiobe i just didn't exxpect to log out then back in and not have it
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12:46 killakee haia:)
12:47 killakee hi Serostern
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13:24 killakee poor norwegian flag .. hrmf... X)
13:33 Sgt_Lemming mmm?
13:41 yNos :D
13:41 yNos hiyall
13:45 dbshortwave mornin
13:46 yNos so how are things today?
13:47 dbshortwave not bad so far
13:47 Sgt_Lemming lo yNos
13:47 yNos looks like a helluva netsplit earlier
13:48 Sgt_Lemming you'd like the PCB I am working on atm yNos
13:48 Sgt_Lemming yeah it was
13:48 Sgt_Lemming business card sized LED display
13:48 yNos did you make some pcbart?
13:48 yNos nice
13:48 Sgt_Lemming 112 LED's, 16 x 7
13:48 yNos gotta be smt
13:48 Sgt_Lemming yup
13:49 yNos got a picture?
13:49 Sgt_Lemming gimme a minute
13:51 Serostern Fuck.
13:53 Sgt_Lemming http://oi40.tinypic.com/5l2flc.jpg <--- that's at 438% of real size
13:53 yNos nice
13:53 yNos scrolling business card?
13:53 Sgt_Lemming something like that
13:56 Sgt_Lemming I wanna do it as a little demo piece
13:56 sndwrx hehe
13:56 sndwrx That's pretty cool, but seems like an awful lot of work for something you can buy for $10.
13:56 sndwrx haha.
13:57 sndwrx I'm the dork that was wearing one of those as a name tag for GiveCamp at TGG.
13:57 sndwrx 'course, I'm sure it wasn't Arduino powered.
14:00 Sgt_Lemming sndwrx, this is going to be a lot more interesting
14:00 Sgt_Lemming planning on adding a bunch of sensors to it, including a microphone
14:00 sndwrx Mine just scrolls letters, numbers and basic special characters.  I'm sure an Arduino powered one can do a lot more.
14:00 sndwrx Oh, very cool.
14:01 Sgt_Lemming the pins at the right hand end of the arduino are serial, so I can pop a bunch of addressable serial connections on there
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14:02 SparkyProjects Hi
14:02 Sgt_Lemming http://oi40.tinypic.com/5l2flc.jpg
14:03 Sgt_Lemming that board is 90 x 55 millimetres
14:03 SparkyProjects Cool :)
14:03 Sgt_Lemming planning to add a bunch of sensors etc to it
14:03 Sgt_Lemming and a battery, cause the arduino's vreg isn't up to quite that many LED's
14:04 Sgt_Lemming thinking might also add an RTC :-D
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14:17 Seroster FUCKIN CATS
14:18 CaptainNiobe what's wrong with cats?
14:18 Seroster Five seconds ago the mail came
14:18 Seroster Four seconds ago paper started to get shredded
14:19 CaptainNiobe you gotta teach them it's not the right thing for them to do...
14:19 Seroster I havent got an NST
14:19 CaptainNiobe ... you wanna teah them, not kill them... lol...
14:19 CaptainNiobe teach*
14:21 Seroster =D
14:21 CaptainNiobe give them something else to rip apart, keep it near your mail slot... praise them hen they chew the item apart, and hiss at them when they chew the mail... talk to them in their own language...
14:22 yNos I think a small lead pellet would be in their language.
14:22 yNos it hisses as it goes through the air, right?
14:22 * yNos is the anti-cat
14:22 CaptainNiobe lol... that's terrible, yNos... lol...
14:22 * CaptainNiobe huggles pepper protectively away from yNos
14:23 wannabe1987 ...
14:24 JA12 so... how do you teach cats anything?
14:24 Sgt_Lemming best one to annoy cats is just water with lemon juice in it
14:25 Sgt_Lemming they do something bad, you squirt them
14:25 CaptainNiobe sero, for the record, my cat only chews boxes, and i think he only does that when he's frustrated... when he was a kitten, he was like a puppy, chewed everything he could sink his teeth into... i got him onto boxes, and now it's the only think he chews...
14:25 JA12 people try, get frustrated and then throw them out so that they can run on the hood of your car and pee on everything
14:25 killakee ARGH....whats the name of the animation movie with that alien that can be invisibe.. its called by the name of the alien..?
14:25 killakee ennyone know
14:25 wannabe1987 anyone* and no
14:25 wannabe1987 or you put tabasco sauce on stuff they cannot chew
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14:26 wannabe1987 hi injektion
14:26 CaptainNiobe lol... that works, wannabe... lol...
14:26 wannabe1987 yes, i know, i used to have a cat....
14:26 wannabe1987 he now lives with my x in ohio
14:27 CaptainNiobe aww... :-\
14:27 JA12 so there's no change that someone would get bored when visiting you guys =)
14:28 yNos Does anyone know where i could find a haynes manual for a 89 subaru forester?
14:28 JA12 tabasco sauce everywhere
14:29 injektion I got the day off
14:29 wannabe1987 maybe craigslist....i think i got my book at autozone.....
14:29 wannabe1987 nifty!  days off rock
14:29 yNos **98.. not 89
14:29 Experimentonomen yNos, ebay ? car parts outlets ?
14:29 yNos i was thinking pdf ;)
14:29 yNos i have a bit of a pdf collection, but mine is mostly clymer manuals
14:29 wannabe1987 google it yo
14:29 yNos motorcycle
14:29 yNos have been.
14:29 injektion wannabe1987, It's not nice it's $85 I've lost today
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14:30 wannabe1987 o.  then i'm sorry
14:30 wannabe1987 no school lwq1996?
14:30 lwq1996 yes school
14:30 yNos just wondering if anyone has a similar pdf collection for autos.
14:30 lwq1996 free time i got done with my work early :P
14:30 DruidicRifleman ...
14:30 Experimentonomen i've never seen a haynes manual in pdf, only in paper
14:30 dbshortwave was killakee talking about rodger from american dad?
14:30 lwq1996 i took a career test thing and it said i should become a pilot
14:30 injektion I've been spending a few hours this morning trying to find some IRIX software I need for my Octane
14:30 DruidicRifleman I have PDF'sfor guns and improvised weapons
14:31 lwq1996 well i gtg -.-
14:31 wannabe1987 dbshortwave, we never really know what killakee is talking about, but he's awesome anyway
14:31 wannabe1987 awwww
14:31 wannabe1987 ok bye
14:31 injektion I still need Photoshop and FrameMaker for IRIX
14:31 * lwq1996 fly's like snoopy
14:35 injektion I know I had PS before but I deleted it before I backed it up
14:36 Seroster Hrm
14:37 Seroster What were the old captains blog shot on?
14:37 Seroster Canon... cybershot?
14:38 wannabe1987 i don't know, maybe
14:39 Seroster ....
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14:40 wannabe1987 hi masterofmonks, SuperPhosphate
14:40 SuperPhosphate Hi :-)
14:41 wannabe1987 hows the motherland? :P
14:41 SuperPhosphate wet and raining and dark
14:41 wannabe1987 awww
14:41 SuperPhosphate but Im still alive
14:41 wannabe1987 w00t
14:42 wannabe1987 was there any question?
14:42 dbshortwave space goast
14:42 SuperPhosphate well Hubby and I finished daughters assignment this morning
14:42 SuperPhosphate that too lots out of us!
14:43 JA12 Seroster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=UyKGXcHBYIc#t=94s
14:43 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 12-1-11 Bolt Depot and Surplus Room - YouTube
14:43 wannabe1987 what kind of assignment?
14:44 SuperPhosphate project on Belgium 15 pages for 12 yea rold level!
14:44 wannabe1987 damn
14:45 SuperPhosphate I know, a tough one!!
14:46 wannabe1987 we had to do them on states and canadian provinces, but i doubt they were never that long!
14:47 astro73|alice_ 15 pages? I've never written anything that long
14:47 SuperPhosphate We stuck lots of pictures in.
14:47 Seroster Hello SuperPhosphate
14:47 wannabe1987 good idea
14:47 SuperPhosphate Hello astro73/alice. Are you aged 38?
14:47 SuperPhosphate Hi Seroster
14:48 astro73|alice no. I'm a 23-year old college student.
14:48 SuperPhosphate ok, I was wondering from the 73 on your name
14:49 astro73|alice unlike some people, i don't put birthdays in my user name
14:49 SuperPhosphate yes, probably best
14:50 wannabe1987 yes?
14:50 wannabe1987 :P
14:50 Seroster Sup super?
14:50 wannabe1987 wannabe was already taken....
14:51 SuperPhosphate Nothing much happening here right now
14:53 astro73|alice sooo... i'm talking to a guy that inherited a small software business from his late aunt. He wants help updating the software. Which is written in Delphi Pascal and the website looks straight out of the 90's.
14:54 SuperPhosphate what does the buisiness do?
14:54 astro73|alice niche software; i'm being vague to protect his name
14:55 astro73|alice it's not really his fault that it's so abysmally out of date
14:55 wannabe1987 yeah
14:56 SuperPhosphate Oh sorry, im not wanting to pry
14:57 SuperPhosphate Im not a programmer so I cant help sorry
14:57 SuperPhosphate I am good at ideas though
14:58 astro73|alice so am I, and I am a programmer
14:58 astro73|alice i'm just shaking my head, thinking "oh boy...."
14:59 SuperPhosphate what would you need rewritten?
14:59 astro73|alice probably all of it
14:59 sndwrx Everything, if it's in Pascal.
14:59 astro73|alice unless you know where I can get a copy of Delphi Pascal
14:59 sndwrx haha man I don't think I've heard that name since the mid-90s.
14:59 SuperPhosphate AAh I did pascal at school
14:59 astro73|alice i've never done pascal
14:59 SuperPhosphate that was the language noone used after that
14:59 astro73|alice although I think that my old man might have a book for it lying around...
15:00 SuperPhosphate Its not a hard language but it didn't have any saving data capabilities
15:00 astro73|alice at this (very early) point, I'm thinking the mozilla XUL platform (what firefox, thunderbird, etc use) would be a good choice
15:01 astro73|alice but it's far too early to say for sure
15:01 SuperPhosphate There are heaps of programmers in #WrongPlanet and #club-ubunta
15:01 SuperPhosphate if you want to ask someone
15:02 sndwrx Ubunta?
15:02 astro73|alice i'm sure. programming isn't something I need help with
15:02 SuperPhosphate oh you just need the software
15:02 DruidicRifleman I wonder
15:02 astro73|alice more likely, I need help with project management and team coordination
15:02 DruidicRifleman I need like 5 good sized fire extingquishers
15:03 DruidicRifleman Is it cheaper to buy them from a supplyer for like a work place
15:03 DruidicRifleman or go to homedepot
15:04 SuperPhosphate DruidicRifleman, I dont know, why dont you look up some places online
15:04 SuperPhosphate before you go there
15:05 DruidicRifleman Iwas wondering if any one have ever bough 5 large fire extinguishers in 1 go
15:05 SuperPhosphate dunno, what do you need them for?
15:05 wannabe1987 he's building a flamethrower....or wants to
15:06 SuperPhosphate aah
15:06 SuperPhosphate maybe they will ask questions
15:06 Seroster I can feel mucus vibrate in my lunges when I breathe.
15:06 sndwrx Here's a simple thing you guys should be able to point me toward, but I'm still waking up and not using the right search terms (surprisingly considering how simple it is):
15:07 sndwrx In junior high I built a circuit that used low-level audio input and modulated(?) it into three frequency bands that drove standard 120v lamps.
15:08 SuperPhosphate do you need the modulater splitter component?
15:09 sndwrx Well, I'd like to find a similar kit since I don't have the time or energy to locate all the components individually, haha.
15:10 sndwrx It plugs into an outlet and an audio source, and has three electrical outlets for plugging in lamps.
15:10 wannabe1987 did you say you had something to pick up in holland?
15:10 sndwrx Yes but I never heard back from them.
15:10 sndwrx I need to get a couple servers if they're still for sale.
15:10 wannabe1987 ah, ok
15:11 sndwrx SuperPhosphate: It was only a dozen or so parts. I put it together in something like a half hour.
15:11 SuperPhosphate I'll have a look around for something like that sndwrx
15:11 sndwrx I appreciate it, thanks.
15:12 SuperPhosphate when do you want it by?
15:12 sndwrx oh, no hurry.
15:12 sndwrx I'm kinda of in a creative process at the moment.
15:12 wannabe1987 astro73|alice, you have anything that needs to be gotten from holland?  (ii'm going there tomorrow and can do multiple things in one trip)
15:12 SuperPhosphate cool
15:12 SuperPhosphate wannabe, going home for a bit??
15:12 wannabe1987 no, holland MI :P
15:12 wannabe1987 sorry
15:12 SuperPhosphate lol
15:13 astro73|alice wannabe1987: no. thank you
15:13 SparkyProjects sndwrx: http://www.lightingelectronics.co.uk/catalog/i3.html
15:13 BotSteve Title: Light to Sound Chaser - 4 Channel Bulgin Socket Version
15:14 wannabe1987 k
15:14 sndwrx SparkyProjects: I like that, it's already assembled and looks decent.  I'm just unsure of what they mean by "chase".
15:15 SparkyProjects it's a sequence (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4, .....
15:15 sndwrx SparkyProjects: Basically I'd like something that outputs in kind with the specified frequencies.  (one pulses with low frequencies, one with mid, one with high, etc.)
15:16 wannabe1987 hmmmmm
15:17 * wannabe1987 has job interview tomorrow at 11am :D
15:17 astro73|alice i should run off for an interview. see you all later!
15:17 wannabe1987 bye!
15:17 SparkyProjects Not sure if audi means they also chase or if they are 4 freq's
15:18 sndwrx good luck astro73|alice!
15:18 CaptainNiobe i'm off to bed, 'night everyone :) *hugs all*
15:18 sndwrx night CaptainNiobe
15:18 wannabe1987 night dear :D
15:19 SuperPhosphate bye
15:20 SuperPhosphate I wonder if the chace settings are programmable or factry set
15:20 SuperPhosphate factory*
15:20 sndwrx Right, when I think of chase I envision sequence.
15:21 sndwrx Rather than
15:21 sndwrx well
15:21 sndwrx I need a powered output that is relative to the frequencies.
15:22 sndwrx I'm not sure yet, I may be able to get away with 12v outputs.
15:22 sndwrx But the key is that is in response to music.
15:23 SuperPhosphate ah ok
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15:26 wannabe1987 lee!
15:26 wannabe1987 i have a job interview tomorrow :D
15:26 SparkyProjects I've had a look around, and all the others i've found are chase lights, usually the all-in-one boxes with lamps.
15:26 SparkyProjects Search term was 'sound to light unit'
15:26 SuperPhosphate http://www1.conrad-uk.com/scripts/wgate/zcop_uk/~flN0YXRlPTI5NjAyNzcxMTI=?direkt_aufriss_area=SHOP_AREA_40353&amp;~template=PCAT_AREA_S_browse&amp;p_page_to_display=&amp;catalogs_sub_id=sub3&amp;aktiv=3&amp;navi=oben_2
15:26 BotSteve Title: Conrad Electronic - System Information
15:27 SuperPhosphate This site has heaps of electronic systems
15:27 wannabe1987 .c 26+24
15:27 BotSteve 50
15:27 yNos .wx tgg
15:27 BotSteve Cloudy, 46.4℉ (8℃), 29.88in (1009mb), Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - KGRR 15:09Z
15:27 yNos .weather tgg
15:27 BotSteve Cloudy, 46.4℉ (8℃), 29.88in (1009mb), Moderate breeze 13kt (↑) - KGRR 15:09Z
15:28 lwq1996 wannabe you gonna have another job?
15:28 wannabe1987 possibly :D
15:28 wannabe1987 this ones in a facility....so its more stable than home health care
15:28 SparkyProjects ah, found a board sndwrx http://www.quasarelectronics.com/smart-kit/1014-3-channel-wireless-music-to-light-effect-230vac.htm
15:28 lwq1996 you gonna take it or tell them that you have another job
15:28 BotSteve Title: 3-Channel Wireless Light Modulator, 230Vac Mains Kit (1014)
15:29 wannabe1987 2 jobs, lee, 2 jobs
15:29 lwq1996 so how is that going to work
15:29 lwq1996 gonna work 2 shifts a day?
15:29 SparkyProjects http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/ALG005A.html
15:29 BotSteve Title: 3 Light 3 Channel Sound to Light System c/w Lamps
15:29 wannabe1987 i dont know
15:30 wannabe1987 considering my HCA shifts are 3-4 hours each, sure
15:30 wannabe1987 and they're EASY AS PIE!  (easier, actually, pie crust is damn hard to make sometimes)
15:30 sndwrx That link didn't work for me, SuperPhosphate
15:31 SuperPhosphate Oh sorry
15:32 sndwrx SparkyProjects: 2-60W input..  I'm not sure that line level would be enough to drive it, then.  :/
15:32 sndwrx But otherwise it appears to be -- oh, nevermind.  it uses a microphone.
15:32 sndwrx hmm.
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15:33 sndwrx Well that's basically what I'm looking for.
15:33 sndwrx Except a lot higher quality looking than what I built so many years ago.  :P
15:33 SparkyProjects They are 240 volts, is that ok ?
15:35 sndwrx eh, I'm going to be working with 120v.
15:35 sndwrx US power
15:36 SparkyProjects Usually the control circuit is powered via a resistor, the triacs don't care what volts.
15:36 SparkyProjects So maybe the resistor could be changed to make it work on 120
15:37 tonsofpcs dimmer?
15:38 wannabe1987 hi tonsofpcs
15:38 Fulsy So I got out of school at 9:15 AM today because we had no oil to run the heating system
15:38 tonsofpcs also, can't you just strap leg to leg?
15:38 tonsofpcs Fulsy: cool (literally).  We had a school in the area delay opening due to heating issues
15:38 wannabe1987 Fulsy, heat is good
15:38 * lwq1996 jumps on wannabe's back and goes for a piggy back ride :D
15:38 * wannabe1987 is still sitting in bed, damn pig aint going nowhere
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15:39 wannabe1987 watching cb....see
15:39 lwq1996 :(
15:39 lwq1996 way to hurt a little kids feelings :'(
15:39 wannabe1987 and then i get ready and go to three different dr appts all in the same place from 11:30 to 2....
15:39 lwq1996 i feel sad that i know what im getting
15:39 wannabe1987 you're not a little kid, lee, you're a teenager
15:39 lwq1996 im a kid inside <:)
15:39 wannabe1987 and i don't put people that weigh more than my brother on my back....he's almost to big as it is :/
15:40 wannabe1987 we all are...
15:40 JA12 http://www.alibaba.com/product-free/120934061/VODKA_40_in_bulk_Russian_origin.html
15:40 BotSteve Title: VODKA 40 % in bulk Russian origin products, buy VODKA 40 % in bulk Russian origin products from alibaba.com
15:40 JA12 a drinking problem, right there
15:40 wannabe1987 wanna buy me some?  some loser drank mine
15:41 lwq1996 who?
15:41 lwq1996 chris?
15:41 wannabe1987 alcoholic friend of ruths
15:41 lwq1996 ah
15:41 wannabe1987 no, he had his own alcohol
15:42 JA12 wannabe1987: sure. I just buy 2 of those then :)
15:42 lwq1996 im bored
15:42 wannabe1987 yeah, i don't need a case....750ml lasts me about a year :P
15:42 JA12 wannabe1987: don't drink all at once
15:42 JA12 :D
15:42 * lwq1996 has candy
15:43 wannabe1987 i don't drink much, and when i do its either straight or in diet coke
15:43 lwq1996 which isnt alowed in the school
15:43 wannabe1987 ooooo two days till i can buy food :D
15:43 wannabe1987 wait, no candy at school?!
15:43 wannabe1987 why the HELL NOT?!
15:43 lwq1996 its a "healthy school" and they take it away from you if you have it
15:43 wannabe1987 my school sold candy
15:43 lwq1996 ours sells crackers and gum
15:43 JA12 wannabe1987: yeah, we talked about drinking before. I just had to copypaste that from another channel, kinda cool
15:43 dbshortwave x.x
15:44 * dbshortwave passes out
15:44 wannabe1987 don't die!!!!!
15:44 lwq1996 why db?
15:44 dbshortwave cleaning
15:44 lwq1996 oh
15:44 wannabe1987 stop breathing in bodens spray paint dust!
15:44 lwq1996 and i hate my school
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15:44 wannabe1987 hi stevecamden
15:44 stevecamden hi
15:44 Seroster ANOTHER steve?
15:44 wannabe1987 how are you?
15:44 stevecamden indeed
15:44 lwq1996 no his name is frank
15:44 Seroster Damn.
15:44 stevecamden good thanks
15:44 lwq1996 :P
15:44 wannabe1987 how did you find the geek group?
15:44 Seroster Yes. Agreed. Steve, from now on you are frank.
15:45 stevecamden ok - always wanted to be a Frank
15:45 stevecamden youtube
15:45 wannabe1987 sweet
15:45 lwq1996 i always wanted to be leo but im one letter off
15:45 lwq1996 lee is my name
15:45 stevecamden ok - thats deep
15:45 SuperPhosphate Lee is a cool name
15:45 Seroster Main channel or the physicsduck one, stevecamden?
15:46 stevecamden mainchannel
15:46 lwq1996 i keep getting called stuff because its a "chinese" name
15:47 Seroster There is an alternate channel called "physicsduck" with daily uptades
15:47 SuperPhosphate It can sound chinese but I wasnt thinking of it that way
15:47 lwq1996 ik
15:47 * lwq1996 has a head ache
15:47 wannabe1987 awww :(
15:47 SuperPhosphate I have blocked ears
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15:48 wannabe1987 i get a new eye prescription today....:D
15:48 mashpriborintorg hi
15:48 wannabe1987 hi frenchie
15:48 sndwrx k, thanks for the help guys.  I have some running around to do.
15:49 wannabe1987 take care
15:49 SuperPhosphate bye sndwrx
15:49 lwq1996 today is going fast
15:51 wannabe1987 good CB.
15:51 wannabe1987 now time to get ready, i have to leave soon
15:52 SuperPhosphate bye wannabe1987
15:53 wannabe1987 see ya dear
15:53 SuperPhosphate :-)
15:53 wannabe1987 i ight stop by the lab later, see if anything fun is going on...
15:57 yNos Is anyone in ny city?
15:58 wannabe1987 .tfw 49428
15:58 BotSteve 46°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Jenison, MI!  'Where life is mediocre'
15:58 wannabe1987 damn, thats warm!
15:58 yNos fo-sho
16:00 dbshortwave intresting
16:00 dbshortwave http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=fact-or-fiction-black-is
16:00 BotSteve Title: Fact or Fiction?: Black Is Better than White for Energy-Efficient Screens: Scientific American
16:01 lwq1996 bell rang
16:01 lwq1996 later
16:01 dbshortwave according to that story white screen is better then black for LCD's
16:03 dbshortwave backwards to CRT
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16:18 Ponko nap fail
16:22 Ponko was going for a nap and was asleep for 7 hours
16:23 dbshortwave x.x
16:24 dbshortwave i think its game time
16:24 * Ponko gets his game face on
16:24 * Ponko turns his PS3 on
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16:26 Sgt_Lemming "you need to update before you can play this game"
16:26 Seroster WHERES MY FUCKING STUFF?!
16:28 mashpriborintorg have you lost something Seroster
16:28 Seroster No
16:28 Seroster But I can't find anything
16:28 Seroster My insanely nice BRAND SPANKING NEW bacho sidecutters... gone.
16:29 Seroster Cant find the shrinkwrap to make the other pliers usable
16:29 mashpriborintorg but it's somewhere, frustrating isn't it
16:30 Seroster Not sure it is
16:30 mashpriborintorg usually I find my stuff when I've given up searching
16:30 Seroster Might have slipped down the trashcan
16:31 Seroster So
16:31 Seroster Should I keep looking
16:31 Seroster Give up and hope to find it
16:31 Seroster Or spend another $40 on a pair of pliers?
16:33 mashpriborintorg time for dumpster diving
16:33 Seroster Nah
16:34 Seroster Its gone if it went in the trash
16:34 mashpriborintorg too bad... put a cover over the trashcan
16:35 * Ponko plays StarFox on the SNES
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16:39 Sgt_Lemming heh, looking at the pinout for this accelerometer
16:39 Sgt_Lemming there are 28 pins on the package... 14 of them are marked "no connection"
16:40 dbshortwave lol 14 of them are to throw you off
16:53 JA12 =)
16:54 JA12 maybe those are support pins for the IC to withstand fast accelerations x)
16:55 astro73|alice That went happily well.
16:55 Cprossu hello all
16:55 Cprossu what's up?
16:56 astro73|alice interview with campus IT for helpdesk. I think it went well.
16:57 Cprossu hope it pays decently for the *crap* you'll have to put up with ^_^ j/k
16:59 Seroster mashpriborintorg, i work over my trashcan a lot of the time, because I WANT stuff to fall into it
16:59 astro73|alice Cprossu: not so much, with capped hours, but it's on-campus and work i'll enjoy more
17:01 Cprossu I spent my 'IT helpdesk time' learning VAX/VMS, it was fun.
17:01 astro73|alice that sounds interesting. Was it the IT's VAX?
17:03 Cprossu yeah, our production machine
17:03 Cprossu experimental fucking around was done on my 'personal' alphaserver 5000 though
17:03 Cprossu (let me make sure it was a 5k)
17:04 Cprossu or was it a 1000A?
17:04 astro73|alice I have no idea what that means
17:04 astro73|alice I don't think GRCC has any vaxen lying around though
17:04 Cprossu http://www.elmp.gr/data/images/DSC05858_1.jpg
17:05 Cprossu ^ 1000A
17:05 Cprossu it was pretty funny though
17:05 Cprossu I had at my desk
17:05 Cprossu which was built for one computer
17:05 Cprossu (mind you)
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17:06 wannabe|tgg there
17:06 Cprossu the POS dell which I never used but was provided, the computer I brought from home to the right side of my chair underneath my desk, an alphaserver 1000A to the left along with a Mac dual 667 G4
17:06 astro73|alice girls? on the internet? nowai
17:06 astro73|alice Cprossu: noisy.
17:06 Cprossu 2 LCD's, and a laptop ontop of the desk
17:07 Cprossu along with a CRT on a swingarm with a keyboard
17:07 Cprossu *attached to the alphaserver*
17:07 Cprossu it was surprisingly quiet when the alphaserver wasn't on
17:07 astro73|alice one of _those_ boxen
17:07 wannabe|tgg afk
17:08 astro73|alice i got my hands on an old Dell(?) server like that once
17:08 Cprossu have fun wannabe|tgg
17:08 astro73|alice i left it behind when i moved back to MI; it was slow
17:08 Cprossu the alphaserver wasn't as noisy as our sunfire opterons
17:08 Cprossu god those things will deafen you
17:08 astro73|alice nothing like a jet engine for a computer
17:09 Cprossu http://www.ebest-it.co.kr/kboard/data/product_sun/k2a_x4200_5.jpg
17:10 Cprossu Which is exactly how I describe this ^
17:10 astro73|alice hot swappable fans???
17:10 Cprossu see the 6 fansin the front?
17:10 Cprossu yeah
17:10 Cprossu I generally ran it with 3 fans
17:10 Cprossu because running it with 6 hurt me
17:11 astro73|alice it's just one of those features i look at like "..... really? Was that necessary?"
17:11 Cprossu well sun claimed it could run in an environment that was 115F+ and be peachy
17:11 Cprossu iirc
17:12 Cprossu so I suppose there could be a need o_o
17:13 astro73|alice ... i hope to god your server room isn't that warm
17:16 Cprossu hell no it wasn't
17:16 Cprossu it was maintained at a pleasant 69F.
17:16 Cprossu with an old liebert sytem designed to keep a mainframe cool
17:17 astro73|alice nice
17:17 astro73|alice when a server room starts approaching "sauna" levels, i think it's time to examine the environmental systems
17:19 Cprossu or bail out
17:20 astro73|alice that's always an option
17:21 Cprossu I remember once walking into a server room that was about 105F or so
17:21 Cprossu the system was really straining to do anything...
17:22 Cprossu then I saw they had filled every spare inch with blades
17:22 astro73|alice also: think about getting a vaccuum
17:22 Cprossu and they wondered why their YP
17:22 Cprossu *UPS was only good till 6 minutes
17:22 astro73|alice ....
17:22 Cprossu they didn't have a generator either
17:22 Cprossu (!)
17:23 astro73|alice i might not know my E&M, but I can tell you about power consumption
17:24 Cprossu I ran from that site because it wasn't worth my time to stand infront of a cannon that the fuse was lit on and 2x the amount of black powder loaded into it.
17:24 astro73|alice see, that's when you negotiate for very favorable terms and 1.5x pay rate
17:25 Cprossu the terms sucked
17:25 Cprossu they hire you as temp for first 6 months
17:25 Cprossu no bene's no nothing
17:25 Cprossu I gave my suggestions which they ignored
17:26 astro73|alice ah.
17:26 astro73|alice then you run.
17:26 Cprossu "They didn't have a problem, after all their IT guys could handle it"
17:27 astro73|alice 6min UPS?
17:27 astro73|alice a server room one ocean away from a vacation?
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17:27 Cprossu yeah and it was a room full of those clear lead acid batteries too
17:28 Cprossu big sucker
17:28 astro73|alice either management or IT needed some education
17:28 Cprossu management it seems
17:28 Cprossu OH speaking of management
17:28 astro73|alice that was my guess
17:28 Cprossu that reminds me of something really funny
17:28 astro73|alice IT is usually doing the best they can
17:29 Cprossu there was this sonicwall at one install I toured
17:29 Cprossu and I noticed it looked out of place and wrong
17:30 Cprossu I questioned the IT manager and he said it was there (but not attached to anything just patch panels) and was in a test mode because the CEO had read an ad for it and _had to have it_
17:30 Cprossu xD
17:30 astro73|alice PHB alert!
17:31 Cprossu yeah
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17:32 astro73|alice the best response to unreasonable requests I've heard is "It's going to cost X" or "Who do you want me to interrupt?"
17:33 Cprossu what's even funnier is they were in the process of making an 'important device rack'
17:36 astro73|alice prioritizing servers based on what can and can't go down makes sense
17:38 astro73|alice what's the punchline?
17:43 astro73|alice unrelated: Alice IRC is closer to what I want, but it's still not there.
17:48 Cprossu astro73|alice: by 'important device rack' I mean 'rack the boss looks at and has blinkenlights'
17:48 astro73|alice Cprossu: Oh, that has so much potential
17:49 Cprossu so anything he read in an ad went there
17:49 Cprossu essentially
17:50 astro73|alice i'm picturing hidden messages in morse
17:50 Cprossu I am sure some did it
17:50 astro73|alice or an old kit computer just continously calculating pi
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17:51 astro73|alice nvm something like an actual display displaying something useful
17:52 SuperPhosphate Hi again :)
17:52 astro73|alice heya
17:54 astro73|alice Cprossu: although an LCARS toolkit on a touch screen for network/serve health would be interesting
17:54 Cprossu actually one of the admins did have a LCARS setup with 2 surplussed ELO touchscreens
17:54 Cprossu he built it into a desk
17:55 Cprossu (CRT touchscreens mind you)
17:55 astro73|alice aaaaaand a little too much time on his hands
17:55 astro73|alice i did one of those once in my FIRST days
17:56 astro73|alice http://www.chiefdelphi.com/media/photos/24407
17:56 BotSteve Title: Chief Delphi - Screenshot
17:57 astro73|alice it's amazing what you can do in VB6
18:02 Ponko hmm
18:07 astro73|alice the sound made by vocalizing without opening one's mouth?
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18:09 injektion Saab files for bankruptcy today. Not a single F**** was given
18:09 * killakee needs caps :)
18:10 astro73|alice killakee: I can recommend several wonderful hat stores.
18:10 wannabe|tgg omni wants to come with me....
18:10 Cprossu lol nice
18:10 astro73|alice wannabe|tgg: of course the dog wants to come with
18:10 wannabe|tgg lol i'm going to the dr....she can't come!
18:11 killakee lol
18:11 astro73|alice you sure?
18:11 astro73|alice could be an open-minded office
18:11 killakee hats i have capassitors i need ;)
18:11 wannabe|tgg yes....and i ripped fiberglass out of the basement and attempted to cut wire :P
18:11 wannabe|tgg and now i have to go
18:11 Cprossu lol
18:15 astro73|alice conclussion: there's no good AJAX IRC clients
18:15 killakee sitting in a little room and discharge a big motorstart 2200 uf 400 volt cap what not all that smart .. my ears are still ringing XD
18:15 astro73|alice *no good open source AJAX IRC clients
18:16 egrsteve_ I think we need another phone line http://thereifixedit.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/white-trash-repairs-inspired-by-rainbow-road.jpg
18:17 astro73|alice ALICE is close, but it does some things weird and the code is too thick for me to fix up, plus the bugs
18:17 astro73|alice egrsteve_: or some trunk cables
18:18 Sgt_Lemming http://oi43.tinypic.com/oqzyic.jpg <--- few more bits added :-P
18:18 egrsteve_ all individual twisted pairs sounds more fun
18:18 astro73|alice Sgt_Lemming: what's the IC?
18:19 Sgt_Lemming Accelerometer :-D
18:19 astro73|alice nice
18:19 Sgt_Lemming R1/R2 is a thermistor voltage divider
18:20 Sgt_Lemming there is one spare analog pin, gonna connect a Mic to it :-D
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18:21 DruidicRifleman hey
18:23 DruidicRifleman yNos
18:24 JA12 Sgt_Lemming: so does that board induce epilepsy with leds and measure/record what kind of thud the victims make when they fall down?
18:24 Sgt_Lemming lol JA12
18:25 astro73|alice .seen eadthem
18:25 BotSteve astro73|alice: I last saw eadthem 11.84 hours ago at 2011-12-19 06:35:12 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:25:34 UTC
18:31 astro73|alice thank you BotSteve
18:31 BotSteve You're welcome, astro73|alice
18:31 injektion I could use an arduino to replace a PLC in a simple application right?
18:32 astro73|alice injektion: if the pins work out, certainly
18:32 injektion Awesome
18:32 astro73|alice you just get problems with high-speed stuff, when the quickness of a PLA is required
18:33 injektion I don't need quickness
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18:33 astro73|alice totally, then
18:33 Electricguy hi! :)
18:34 Electricguy and yeyy! i got a SB audigy platinum soundcard with a audigy drive :3
18:35 injektion I don't need quickness for a crude temperature monitoring and alarm
18:37 injektion Can it play back audio files?
18:37 Electricguy well, yeah it's a soundcard...
18:37 Electricguy model half bad ass
18:37 injektion I mean the audrino
18:37 dbshortwave XD
18:37 Electricguy arduino? o_O
18:40 injektion Yes
18:45 injektion O_o
18:46 yNos DruidicRifleman: whats up?
18:52 Sgt_Lemming yNos see the slightly updated PCB?
18:53 yNos not yet
18:53 yNos have been doing scase stuff
18:54 Sgt_Lemming http://oi43.tinypic.com/oqzyic.jpg
18:57 yNos looking good
18:57 yNos what is ic1?
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19:04 yNos http://www.oreillynet.com/etel/blog/images/phreakout.jpg
19:04 yNos lol
19:07 astro73|alice injektion: arduino's i think can play simple sounds, but i believe shields are more often used
19:07 Sgt_Lemming yNos, accelerometer
19:08 Electricguy i made my arduino play this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-vkG-DYPy8
19:08 BotSteve Title: The Hardware Chiptune Project Arduino bigsize! (Line level converter) - YouTube
19:09 Sgt_Lemming Electricguy, did you look at the PCB?
19:09 Electricguy nah
19:10 Electricguy now i did
19:10 Electricguy R2R ADC?
19:10 Electricguy oh
19:10 Electricguy LEDs...
19:10 Electricguy charlieplexed matrix?
19:10 Sgt_Lemming nope
19:10 Sgt_Lemming Row/Column select
19:10 Electricguy hmmm
19:10 Electricguy ahh
19:10 Electricguy looks neat
19:11 Sgt_Lemming it's 90 x 55 mm
19:11 Sgt_Lemming and there is 112 LED's on it
19:11 Electricguy nice :)
19:11 Electricguy hehe :P
19:12 Electricguy btyw, i bought stuff to make game controllers for my arduino :)
19:12 Electricguy to run the Hackvision software on it :)
19:12 Electricguy pretty neat
19:12 Electricguy only got a pong game on it now :)
19:12 Electricguy it's using the TVOut library
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19:31 astro73|alice I HAVE A JOB!!!!
19:31 Electricguy congratz :)
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19:31 mashpriborintorg I would like to change my job... congrats anyway
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19:34 Monkeh Electricguy: Since when is an Audigy badass?
19:35 Electricguy no idea. but it's surely more badass than the shitty onboard realtek device :P
19:35 Monkeh Electricguy: Well, yes, but anything is.
19:35 Electricguy nah, not the old ISA cards :)
19:35 Monkeh Electricguy: I'm afraid my card would like a word with you: http://www.guru3d.com/imageview.php?image=16874
19:35 Monkeh ;)
19:36 Monkeh Electricguy: Quite a few of them are superior to onboard Realtek crap. :P
19:36 Electricguy geez man! stop typing my nick all the time! :P i KNOW you are chatting with me :P
19:36 Monkeh Habit.
19:36 Monkeh I come from busy channels.
19:36 Monkeh This place is.. quiet on a busy night.
19:36 Electricguy really annoying one! ;)
19:36 Monkeh Not so annoying when 20 people are talking at once.
19:37 Electricguy no, but now it's only 2 talikng... :P
19:37 Electricguy talking*
19:37 Monkeh As I said, habit.
19:37 Electricguy but still :P
19:37 Monkeh Ahh, quit yer bitchin' :P
19:37 Electricguy lol :P
19:38 Electricguy ok, back on subject, i know the audigy card isn't that badass compared to real studio grade cards, but hey, it was totally free in a unopened original box! XD
19:38 Electricguy so i don't complain :)
19:39 Monkeh I got studio grade in here, too.. ;)
19:39 injektion Better not be E-MU
19:39 Monkeh And headphones they'd kill for down at the lab. ;)
19:39 Electricguy or stageline.. XD
19:40 Monkeh injektion: Nothing quite that fancy
19:40 injektion E-MU and Creative sell the same cards but with different drivers and software that has to keep running in the background otherwise no audio
19:40 Electricguy M-Audio make some decent stuff
19:40 Monkeh Electricguy: Ding.
19:40 Experimentonomen Audiotrak is decent too
19:40 Monkeh injektion: If it says Creative, it's crap at heart.
19:41 Electricguy i'm thinking about buying a pair of M-Audio AV-40 monitors
19:41 injektion Well than that applies to E-MU as well Monkeh
19:41 Electricguy they sound VERY good for theit size and price
19:41 Monkeh There's nothing they can't get wrong.
19:41 injektion M-Audio is good
19:41 Electricguy around 130 bucks for a pair
19:41 injektion E-MU used to be a great company until Creative bought them
19:41 Electricguy around 100 bucks for the smaller AV-30 model
19:42 Monkeh injektion: E-MU actually designed the chip used by the Live! and Audigy cards.
19:42 Monkeh injektion: Not a bad chip, if a little limited.
19:42 Experimentonomen M-Audio used to be like the first and foremost on professional audio equipment, nowdays everyone are like on the same kinda level, noone is preferred
19:42 Monkeh Shame about the drivers. The Creative ones anyway.
19:43 injektion The E-MU ones were not much better
19:43 Monkeh Never used them.
19:43 Monkeh All I know is Creative can't write a driver to save their lives.
19:43 injektion The E-MU drivers liked to crash your audio apps a lot
19:43 Electricguy Altec LAnsing used to make some good stuff too
19:43 Monkeh Oh, and they attack anyone who tries to write their own or fix Creative's drivers with lawsuits.
19:43 Monkeh injektion: And the Creative ones like to crash your entire computer a lot.
19:44 injektion lol
19:45 Electricguy speaking of creative, my boss knows a guy from sweden who made a multi band audio compressor in DOS in the 90's :P he took 3 soundblaster LIVE! soundcards, syncing the closkc together with a hardware wire and then made a custom program in DOS for them :P
19:45 Electricguy it's the same guy who made the audiostocker winamp plugin, which is also a multiband compressor
19:45 Electricguy nowdays the guy is working for Orban... XD
19:46 Electricguy starting out in a basement in sweden with some shitty soundcards :P
19:47 Electricguy his name is Leif Claesson
19:48 Electricguy he have also made the Omnia.9
19:49 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGcWjkQHokQ
19:49 BotSteve Title: Omnia.9 FM processor user interface demonstrated by Leif Claesson - YouTube
19:49 Electricguy BAD ASS compressors
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19:52 Toastdude Hello
19:52 Electricguy 'lo
19:54 Experimentonomen g'day toasty
19:55 Toastdude How are you today?
19:59 Experimentonomen tired, frozen
20:05 * Electricguy got cheeto-fingers! :D nom
20:06 Toastdude lol
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20:06 * Experimentonomen eats thai red curry chicken nukebox food
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20:08 producerbill2 afternoon all
20:08 Toastdude Hello producerbill2
20:08 Electricguy howdy
20:08 producerbill2 what is everyone uptown
20:08 producerbill2 up to
20:08 producerbill2 fucking auto correct
20:09 Toastdude Watching yesterday's captain's blog
20:09 Toastdude lol, nice
20:09 Toastdude You?
20:09 Electricguy LOL! http://www.evilmilk.com/pictures/Look_At_It64.jpg
20:09 producerbill2 reinstalling windows
20:10 yNos time to go home and crawl in bed. i feel like poo
20:10 yNos gdamn cold thing
20:10 yNos g'nite/g'day everyone
20:10 Electricguy night night yNos
20:10 Toastdude Bye yNos, feel better
20:11 producerbill2 feel better man
20:11 mashpriborintorg good Idea, I go to bed also
20:11 mashpriborintorg bye
20:11 producerbill2 bye
20:11 Toastdude Bye mash
20:12 producerbill2 electricguy nice picture
20:12 Electricguy hehe thx
20:12 Electricguy very dry CSI humor... XD http://oi44.tinypic.com/5cys9j.jpg
20:12 Electricguy CSI, the series that enhance the shit out of your ass!
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20:13 producerbill2 lo
20:14 producerbill2 lol
20:15 producerbill2 nice
20:15 DruidicRifleman Wow any one else watching the fast and furous/murdergate scandal???
20:15 Electricguy The slow and the unfurious
20:16 Toastdude The Slow and Calm
20:16 producerbill2 what is going on?
20:17 producerbill2 do you have a link?
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20:19 BotSteve **whispers** Quick, hide!  Before he sees us!
20:19 Electricguy hehehe hey there lwq1996
20:19 lwq1996 hi
20:19 producerbill2 what is that all about
20:20 lwq1996 when people log on we have a thing hat says something like that
20:20 lwq1996 mines that
20:20 lwq1996 toasts is TOASTY!
20:20 lwq1996 and i forget who other peoples is
20:20 producerbill2 I see
20:20 DruidicRifleman http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/12/19/want_answers_about_fast_and_furious_youre_a_racist I am unsure how i feel about this
20:20 BotSteve Title: Want Answers About Fast and Furious? You're a Racist - Katie Pavlich
20:21 DruidicRifleman the guy could be charged with purgery... but i am kinda not supprised he's trying to race card his way out of that mess....
20:23 killakee wtf issnt car ignition dc .. bothers me that it states on the net that you have to rectify it to charge capassitors  :S ... ennyone know why ?
20:23 Electricguy yes it's DC
20:24 Electricguy in
20:24 Electricguy and AC out
20:24 Electricguy cause a car ignition coil is just a trasformer
20:24 lwq1996 wannabe you here
20:24 producerbill2 guns guns guns
20:24 Toastdude No she isn't Lee
20:24 Toastdude also Hi
20:24 producerbill2 lies and video tape
20:24 lwq1996 i like guns :)
20:25 Electricguy a modern flyback for example is a trafo with a diode/capacitor multiplier
20:25 dbshortwave wouldnt new ignition packs be square wave?
20:25 DruidicRifleman I don't care if they're big or small if there for sale hell i want em all
20:25 lwq1996 toast your here early
20:25 JA12 that CSI strip reminded me of one that came out when Steam db was compromised http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/lp/8kv/hggt/3175/871711229.jpg
20:25 Toastdude I stayed home sick
20:25 lwq1996 you faker :P
20:25 dbshortwave i will have to make a poke in my harnass to figure that out
20:26 killakee Electricguy: how on earth does a transformer make ac from dc ?
20:26 killakee by magic ?
20:26 Electricguy you chop up the DC
20:26 producerbill2 it shakes its ass
20:26 Electricguy whichg causes it to oscillate in the trafo and makes AC
20:26 lwq1996 lol
20:26 producerbill2 lol
20:26 killakee yes but its still is dc
20:26 Toastdude I'm not faking it, dude, I feel like crap
20:27 Electricguy yes, so?
20:27 Electricguy a ACV inverter makes AC from DC too
20:27 Electricguy a regular audio amplifier makes AC from DC
20:27 lwq1996 me too toast but i dont miss ever
20:27 killakee so why do they say you need a diode to rectify it when it is dc ennyhow..
20:27 killakee to charge caps and sutch
20:28 Electricguy you need to rectify the output cause you get AC from a car ignition coil
20:28 Electricguy you can't charge caps with AC
20:29 killakee hmmrf..
20:30 Electricguy a plain transformer can't give DC out, no matter if you feed it with chopped up DC or regular AC
20:30 killakee thats what im not getting
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20:30 killakee hehe
20:31 killakee whats so magic inside it that it makes ac XD
20:31 Electricguy when you chop up a DC voltage you pretty much get AC
20:32 Electricguy run it through a trafo to step it up or down. it's that simple XD
20:33 killakee so if i use a transformer of some sort and turn it the wrong way it works on the same prinsipal as a ignitioncoil
20:33 killakee step up
20:34 killakee i am currently using a signalgenerator and stuffing 19 volts in fyi
20:34 Electricguy it depends on if the trafo was used to step up or down voltage from the beginning
20:34 Electricguy be sure to have a lot of current to run the ignitioncoil
20:35 killakee 5,56 amps
20:35 killakee is the rated psu
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20:35 Electricguy should be good
20:35 killakee so it gets pritty warm to the toutch
20:36 Electricguy hehe oki :P
20:36 killakee but thanks for clearing that up
20:36 killakee :)
20:36 Electricguy hehe np :P
20:37 killakee need some beafy diodes XD
20:37 killakee microoven sure looks tempting XD
20:37 Electricguy lol XD
20:37 * Electricguy got coffee! :3
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20:38 Electricguy a swedish guy building a small cellphone! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXxZU8H2H4g&amp;feature=g-u&amp;context=G217687eFUAAAAAAAAAA
20:38 BotSteve Title: µphone call demo - YouTube
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20:40 JA12 Electricguy: you?
20:40 Electricguy nah
20:40 killakee that is one smal phone
20:40 Electricguy yeah
20:40 Toastdude Hello masterofmonks
20:40 Electricguy that's the whole idea XD
20:41 Electricguy here is my youtube channel if anyone is interested :) feel free to rate, comment and subscribe :) http://www.youtube.com/user/sk7ca?feature=mhee
20:41 BotSteve Title: sk7ca's Channel - YouTube
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20:44 Toastdude Kate!
20:44 Katemonster hi toast
20:44 killakee i am :)
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20:51 Phu Finally got my 64-bit linux box up and running :) and then xrandr pretends it's never heard of "1280x1024".
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21:00 JA12 Phu: lemme guess, Arch?
21:04 killaway^ZZzzZZ night yall
21:04 killaway^ZZzzZZ have a good one
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21:15 Phu JA12: Ubuntu Studio 11.10.
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21:40 Hackbat best music ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4tw6vBbwVY&amp;feature=related
21:40 BotSteve Title: THE AQUABATS - FASHION ZOMBIES! - YouTube
21:41 astro73|alice did I mention i got a JOB?
21:43 astro73|alice J. O. B.
21:43 * astro73|alice might be slightly excited about this
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21:45 Hackbat Jank Obsolete Boat?
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21:51 y007ghg7_ woot
21:51 Toastdude Hi
21:51 y007ghg7_ i got my turthe beach headset today
21:52 y007ghg7_ turtle*
21:52 Monkeh ew.
21:52 y007ghg7_ its better than what i had
21:52 y007ghg7_ a microsoft lifechat lx-3000 that was falling apart
21:53 injektion What is the correct procedure to export something to a user's path?
21:54 Monkeh injektion: Uh, you mean add a path to the PATH variable, or?
21:54 injektion Yes that
21:54 Monkeh injektion: PATH="$PATH:/new/path"
21:55 Monkeh injektion: Use export if you're doing that in a running shell.
21:56 injektion OS X's terminal sucks ass
21:56 Monkeh injektion: You've got an extra word in there.
21:56 astro73|alice injektion: if you mean permantely, use ~/.profile iirc
21:57 injektion This is IRIX with csh
21:59 astro73|alice .w IRIX
21:59 BotSteve "IRIX is a flavour of the UNIX System V computer operating system developed by Silicon Graphics, Inc. to run natively on their MIPS architecture workstations and servers." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIX
22:03 DruidicRifleman where did wannabe go she
22:03 DruidicRifleman is normally on at this hour
22:04 injektion This wasn't too helpful http://goput.it/4d1.png
22:04 astro73|alice DruidicRifleman: last i heard, dr appt
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22:09 DruidicRifleman ah
22:09 DruidicRifleman Speaking of satan himself LOL
22:09 wannabe1987 :blink blink:
22:10 wannabe1987 bill nye is talking about electricity
22:10 DruidicRifleman he does that from time to time
22:10 wannabe1987 does  boden want to be the next bill nye?
22:10 DruidicRifleman Why do you say that
22:11 wannabe1987 because
22:12 Toastdude Wannabe!!
22:12 wannabe1987 Toastdude
22:12 wannabe1987 i got fiberglass all over me at the lab :/
22:13 astro73|alice wannabe1987: i'm sure he'd like that. I don't think he's personable enough for it
22:14 * injektion is totally confused
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22:15 DruidicRifleman i saw you went to the lab
22:16 Toastdude Ponko!
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22:17 Ponko yes yes toasty
22:17 Phu I hate PC design.
22:18 Phu Do you know what IDE worked so well? because it had 40 pins of grippiness that would go flaky when someone farted causing the hard drive to periodically disconnect!
22:18 Phu wouldn't even,.
22:18 Phu </rant>
22:18 wannabe1987 DruidicRifleman, yes, i did...
22:19 astro73|alice Phu: do you have something to say about any other interconnects?
22:19 DruidicRifleman Cool
22:19 DruidicRifleman Did they hate you???
22:19 wannabe1987 no....
22:20 DruidicRifleman thats good right...
22:20 astro73|alice wannabe1987: that's improvement, yes?
22:20 wannabe1987 well, i got fiberglass everywhere on me, but no, not really
22:20 wannabe1987 yes
22:20 Phu astro73|alice: yeah... card slots suck too... I've never met one that was properly aligned and didn't require a precise position of the fixing screw to guarantee operation :P
22:21 DruidicRifleman why we'reyou playing with Fiber glass...
22:21 wannabe1987 because it needed to be taken off pipes and dave sent me to do it
22:22 DruidicRifleman ah
22:25 wannabe1987 astro73, where are you working now?
22:26 * wannabe1987 has to go outside now.....
22:26 astro73|alice wannabe1987: i just got hired at GRCC's IT helpdesk. I'm probably going to start on the 3rd
22:32 Electricguy bedtime. night night all
22:32 Toastdude Night
22:33 tonsofpcs mm, bed
22:33 tonsofpcs GRCC?
22:33 astro73|alice Grand Rapids Community College
22:33 tonsofpcs ah, have fun with that :)
22:34 astro73|alice it'll be better than factory work
22:34 astro73|alice and it's a short commute
22:36 masterofmonks lwq1996:
22:50 tonsofpcs AT&T pulls T-mobile bid.  http://tinyurl.com/72wh5gp (Bloomberg)
22:50 BotSteve Title: AT&T Pulls $39 Billion T-Mobile Bid After Regulator Opposition - Bloomberg
22:54 astro73|alice good. we don't need a king of wireless
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22:56 DruidicRifleman whats up
22:57 Toastdude The Universe
23:04 Phu many planes are up.
23:11 DruidicRifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXO07hVFhhk&amp;feature=context&amp;context=G2a19b05FUAAAAAAABAA
23:11 BotSteve Title: Anderson AM15, the Naked Gun 2.5 - YouTube
23:11 DruidicRifleman Finnaly
23:12 DruidicRifleman An AR that Does not need mlubricant like the Armours told the troops in nam when it was first issue
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23:34 Ponko interesting point that the 2 super bowls between Pittsburgh and Dallas where all decided by 4 points
23:35 eadthem http://www.thespicehouse.com/file/misc/soup-bowl.jpg ?
23:35 BotSteve eadb: I have the following messages for you:
23:35 BotSteve At 06:45Z, Astronouth7303 asked me to tell eadb that he can use pretty much any language with GTK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B#Programming_language_bindings
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23:36 eadthem ya i know
23:36 eadthem but i do c++
23:37 Ponko a certain x rated site was looking for one of those
23:37 Ponko a C++ developer
23:37 eadthem for a website?
23:37 Ponko yes
23:38 eadthem seams weard
23:38 eadthem php ftw for websites
23:38 Ponko yeah lol
23:38 Ponko but some of the stuff that goes on there is weird
23:43 Monkeh|Lap DruidicRifleman: Wow, finally fixes the fouling problem which has plagued an otherwise decent design for so long, too.

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