Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-23

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00:02 JA12 <Cyber_Axe> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fb-_p2q90PA&amp;feature=player_embedded the SOPA Hypocracy / Conspiracy
00:03 BotSteve Title: STOP SOPA! Michael Mozart cNBC PIPA Protect IP Sue Public cNet BitTorrent Pirate Bay Reddit Anon - YouTube
00:05 ZombieToast I almost killed my camera like chris did...
00:06 joe248 joined #thegeekgroup
00:06 joe248 Greetings
00:06 sndwrx LOUD KEYWORDS
00:06 ZombieToast 1:28:00????????????????????
00:07 ZombieToast Hallo joe248
00:07 Cprossu how many joe's are we up to now?
00:07 joe248 Hey ZombieToast
00:07 Coderjoe for the record, I'm not actually named Joe
00:07 ZombieToast Joe, Steve, and Andrew....
00:11 Cprossu and Jeff too now
00:13 ZombieToast Has anyone seen the newest CB?
00:13 lwq1996 me
00:13 ZombieToast Okay, so you know how djrock made the logo in 3D on Blender?
00:14 lwq1996 he stole your idea
00:14 ZombieToast A bit...
00:14 ZombieToast I already did it a LONG time ago
00:15 ZombieToast So I posted my video that I made 5 months as a video response to the newest... lol
00:15 y007ghg7- wow my CPU is cold
00:15 y007ghg7- 15C
00:16 sndwrx I was running at 8C for quite a while, but that's because I left it in the car for hours.
00:16 * sndwrx snickers.
00:16 y007ghg7- >_>
00:17 y007ghg7- 15C is like my normal load temp too
00:17 sndwrx What processor and cooling rig do you have?
00:18 y007ghg7- air cooling and an AMD athlon x4 at 3.10GHZ
00:18 sndwrx What kind of heatsink?
00:18 y007ghg7- the stock one that came with this computer
00:18 y007ghg7- idk what it is
00:18 Cprossu nice ZombieToast lol
00:19 sndwrx That's pretty cool.
00:19 y007ghg7- its the acer aspire AM3400
00:19 Cprossu those are nice little chips y007ghg7-
00:19 sndwrx What is ambient temp?
00:19 Cprossu for $100 they were a good deal too
00:19 ZombieToast What Cprossu?
00:19 Cprossu the athlon x4 @ 3.1ghz
00:20 y007ghg7- its pretty cool in my room atm
00:20 Seroster Since when did toasty become a zombie?
00:20 Cprossu it happens
00:20 joe248 LOL
00:20 ZombieToast Since masterofmonks...
00:20 * masterofmonks casts lifedrain on Seroster
00:21 Seroster ... Fuck off.
00:21 * Cprossu is a boomer and barfs on Seroster because it would be funny
00:21 Toastdude lol
00:22 Seroster And I thought MY jokes were lame.
00:22 Cprossu wow that's weird
00:24 lwq1996 what the hell is up with hour long cbs
00:25 Cprossu someone challenged him I suppose
00:25 * lwq1996 coughs at toastdudes pm
00:25 Toastdude lol
00:25 sndwrx Wow, I just pigged out.
00:27 lwq1996 your gonna be fat!
00:28 sndwrx You remember those words when you turn 30.
00:28 Toastdude 140lb safe with 32 binary switches....... lol
00:28 eadthem what shuld i do for supper
00:28 lwq1996 lamb!
00:30 joe248 beef
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00:35 eadthem mmmm last day before i leave for nebraska
00:36 eadthem i dont want to cook anything and have it rot for 5 days   and i dont have anything quick left
00:38 * eadthem orders jimmy jons
00:38 Toastdude How strange...
00:38 Toastdude That's what we're having
00:39 Coderjoe freaky fast?
00:40 eadthem sometimes
00:40 * Experimentonomen spreads some butter on Toastdude and eats him ;)
00:40 eadthem NO NO NO
00:40 Toastdude -_-
00:40 lwq1996 damn tgg needs drill bits
00:40 eadthem you got to toast him first
00:41 eadthem http://www.smtnet.com/media/images/Heller_1707EXL.jpg
00:41 Coderjoe but he's already toast
00:41 lwq1996 wait nvm we need to get tgg new drills and what do you call the device that uses them, a routory high velocity turning device
00:41 Experimentonomen :L
00:41 Toastdude *rotory
00:41 Toastdude Or screw-shooter :P
00:42 eadthem impact screw driver
00:42 lwq1996 toast it does more than screws :P
00:42 eadthem my dad has a milwaulky that dose that
00:43 eadthem 3 inch screws in to osage orange in about 3 seconds
00:43 dbshortwave Chris dont like step bits?
00:43 lwq1996 hands down though i would have to go with dewalt or craftsman
00:43 Coderjoe drill press?
00:44 eadthem my craftsman has done well
00:44 eadthem but the batterys havent
00:44 lwq1996 battery drills are junk and i only use them when needed
00:44 eadthem mm craftsman multimeters match fluke in accuracy
00:44 lwq1996 i like the good old drill untill the power goes out corded ones
00:44 dbshortwave they are only junk if you dont know how to care for a battery
00:45 dbshortwave ive had a hitachi thats lasted me .... 3 or 4 years no issues
00:45 lwq1996 i take care of the batterys and only charge them when they are dead
00:45 dbshortwave same batterys as packaged
00:46 eadthem the battery packs lasted about a year  of corse i took it to work and used it for stagecraft
00:46 lwq1996 lol
00:46 eadthem so that was a dayly cycle of drain and charge for 1 semsester
00:46 eadthem errr school
00:46 lwq1996 lol
00:49 dbshortwave LOL iscar rick is laughing his ass off cause i know i am
00:51 Toastdude Lol
00:57 Cprossu dbshortwave he's likely cringing
00:57 Cprossu which is different than laughing
00:57 dbshortwave well he was useing a bent bit lol
00:57 Cprossu like i said, cringing.
00:57 Toastdude And making the stainless steel cherry red from a crappy bit..
00:58 Seroster WTF
00:58 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;v=ggzTum7ogkI
00:58 BotSteve Title: Wax Ring - YouTube
00:58 Seroster American inventions never sieze to amaze me
00:58 Seroster You cant unbolt the shitter without buying a new seal?
00:58 Seroster WTF
00:58 Toastdude lol
00:58 Cprossu you bolt on the shitter and it's supposed to be there for 50+ years
00:59 Cprossu like mine has =P
00:59 Seroster If shit gets stuck in it you want to unbolt it to clear the mess
00:59 dbshortwave no you dont
00:59 dbshortwave you buy a snake
01:00 Seroster I won't even mention the jackass got CARPET IN HIS BATHROOM
01:00 dbshortwave if that dont work flush a cherry bomb
01:00 Seroster dbshortwave, My neighbors grandson flushed a toy car. I made five hundred bucks in half an hour.
01:00 Coderjoe Cprossu: unless you have a shitty low-flow and you want to replace it with a smuggled-in-from-canada model...
01:00 dbshortwave lol
01:00 dbshortwave awesome
01:00 Seroster No. It sucked. But it was worhth it.
01:01 Coderjoe mmm
01:01 Cprossu Coderjoe: the fact my shitter has been in place for 50+ years proves' it ain't a low flow =P
01:01 Coderjoe $1000/hr for being a poopsmith
01:01 Toastdude I always think of Meisser 80 before actually realizing they're talking about the firework...
01:01 Seroster Coderjoe, A real plumber would have charged more. =P
01:01 Coderjoe Cprossu: yours, yes. in a new home, no way
01:02 Coderjoe ...
01:02 Cprossu I know where to find obsolete models heh
01:02 Coderjoe some of the suggestions on that wax ring video are disturbing...
01:02 Seroster Fucking obnoxious piece of wax
01:02 Seroster Like replacing a shitter isnt messy enough
01:03 Coderjoe like "El desodorante de servicio sanitario mas barato del mundo.EcoDaisy"
01:03 Coderjoe the thumbnail on it makes me go "wtf?"
01:05 Coderjoe i don't even...
01:05 Coderjoe and that leads to more wtfery
01:06 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell wannabe1987 he thinks it was GVSU, not GRCC
01:06 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
01:07 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
01:07 BotSteve Happy to help, Toastdude
01:13 lwq1996 wannabe you here?
01:13 lwq1996 .seen wannabe
01:13 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen wannabe around.
01:13 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
01:13 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw zombie1987 2.10 hours ago at 2011-12-22 23:07:41 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:13:53 UTC
01:13 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 2.69 hours ago at 2011-12-22 22:32:33 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
01:14 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe-afk 6.07 hours ago at 2011-12-22 19:09:57 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
01:14 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe-zz 10.65 hours ago at 2011-12-22 14:35:10 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
01:14 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe|tgg 79.04 hours ago at 2011-12-19 18:11:27 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
01:14 BotSteve lwq1996: (3 more)
01:15 masterofmonks lwq1996: she is at a christmas party.
01:16 lwq1996 oh tis ok then
01:18 Toastdude HOLY CRAP, concrete computer!
01:23 Coderjoe so is it an hour and a half of mixing and pouring concrete?
01:24 lwq1996 its funny though
01:25 Coderjoe taking forever to get a decent buffer
01:25 * Coderjoe hates the crappy intarwebs at the office
01:27 lwq1996 its just youtube today, alot of people are complaining about it on chris's status
01:30 Hackbat my grandma gave em a snuggie for xmas :3
01:30 eadthem jimmy jons   scheduled for 7:30   time now  7:29   orderd  at 7:00
01:31 Hackbat it has penguins on it!
01:31 Hackbat :3
01:39 tonsofpcs hrm
01:39 tonsofpcs egrsteve: !!!
01:41 tonsofpcs yes, concrete never actually cures 100%, it's just reaches a defined rating in a defined amount of time.  If you need something to work quicker, you can overengineer it :)
01:43 Seroster Yes it does
01:43 Seroster Sometime it HAS to come to the point it won't harden any more.
01:46 eadthem its a log thing
01:46 eadthem err inverse log
01:47 tonsofpcs ^^
01:48 tonsofpcs log.  (it cures a lot relatively early on and takes forever to finish)
01:48 Toastdude logarithmic concrete!
01:48 eadthem it dose one fo these
01:50 Seroster Oh dont come here with that, it CURES. Derp. =P
01:50 eadthem .~'`
01:50 eadthem |
01:50 eadthem well that failed
01:50 tonsofpcs log.
01:51 tonsofpcs it.. rolls down stairs, alone or in pairs; rolls over your neighbor's dog.
01:51 Seroster Take your hypothetical math crap and stuff it, we are in the actual world, here shit CURES. =P
01:51 Toastdude lol
01:52 tonsofpcs Seroster: sure, and radioactive decay actually completes even though it's measured in half lives, because there's a margin of error (and outside factors) that makes it actually finish completely at some point, even if that point is 5 million years out....
01:52 tonsofpcs here in the actual world, your concrete will be destroyed before it finishes curing to 100% strength.
01:52 Seroster Hypothetically it could all decay at the same time.
01:53 Seroster Round off to closest percent.
01:53 Seroster And I define 100% as "as hard as it will get"
01:53 tonsofpcs oh, well then that happens right before it's shattered by a wrecking ball
01:53 Seroster I live in a 30 year old concrete bunker. It is CURED.
01:54 Seroster For all intents and purposes, except for aspie extremes, its well and done, and has been for years.
01:57 tonsofpcs for a bunker that doesn't have to physically hold anything, sure.  I know of projects that have required massive overengineering to get concrete to cure to enough strength in 3 months to continue.
01:58 Seroster If you need 100% in a month, increase ammount by x percent and you are happy. "Strength of concrete changes (increases) up to three years"
01:59 tonsofpcs anyway, question for random persson who has greek mythology knowledge better than my own:  Are Titans considered gods?
02:00 Seroster .g are titans considered gods?
02:00 BotSteve Seroster: http://edweb.sdsu.edu/people/bdodge/scaffold/gg/titan.html
02:12 Cprossu hey tonsofpcs what's up?
02:13 Cprossu (besides ceiling, sky, etc)
02:13 eadthem they are in age of mithology rise of the titans
02:13 Seroster Hey Cprossu
02:13 Seroster Could the gg cameras work with coax instead of c5?
02:13 Seroster http://www.electronicsurplus.com/Item/41318/HAVEG%20INDUSTRIES%20INC_%20-%20Cable_%20coax_%2030-2C_%2090%20Ohm%20twin%20lead_%20-%20819159_%20%20S-626032-79/
02:13 BotSteve Title: 819159, S-626032-79 - Cable, coax. 30-2C. 90 Ohm twin lead.
02:13 Seroster 20.000 units in stock, 45cents per unit
02:14 Cprossu 90 ohm though
02:14 Cprossu that's weird
02:14 Cprossu .g 90 ohm coax uses
02:14 BotSteve Cprossu: http://www.wc7i.com/Simple%20SWR%20Theory%20pg1.htm
02:15 Cprossu that's about as usless as a link could be
02:15 Seroster lol
02:15 Cprossu egrsteve : What the fuck is 90ohm coax used for?!!?!?
02:15 Cprossu ^ also for tonsofpcs
02:16 Seroster Just giving you the headsup that it's available, and dirt cheap since its surplus
02:16 Cprossu yeah we know
02:16 Hackbat is youtube stupid slow for anyone else?
02:16 Cprossu it's stupid slow.
02:17 Hackbat like having to pause the captains blog every 3 minutes so it can buffer?
02:17 Cprossu yeah
02:17 Ponko Chris broke youtube eh?
02:17 Hackbat is it me or did this not happen before they changed the way stuff worked
02:18 Ponko youtube have changed almost everything
02:18 Toastdude It's working perfectly for me...
02:18 Ponko you're one lucky bastard
02:18 eadthem accualy im having less buffer issues now than before
02:19 eadthem also its a chrismas special player
02:19 eadthem im amased at how little the snow flakes affect playback
02:19 Hackbat it used to beable to buffer the who video in a few minutes
02:20 Ponko it wasn't working for some reason about an hour or so ago
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02:20 eadthem i think ther makeing it so you cant buffer the whole video without watching some
02:20 eadthem it makes sense in general
02:20 Ponko true
02:20 Hackbat now it's like it's doing some bullshit where it tries to only buffer a few seconds ahead which just isn't working in my case
02:20 eadthem thats how it was for me
02:20 Seroster Hey Cprossu
02:21 Hackbat like I literally have no grey on my bar
02:21 Seroster http://www.electronicsurplus.com/Item/131795/AMP%20TRAP_GOULD%20-%20FUSE%20TIME%20DELAY%201200A%20600VAC%20-%20A4BQ1200/
02:21 BotSteve Title: A4BQ1200 - FUSE TIME DELAY 1200A 600VAC
02:21 Seroster I need to compensate.
02:21 eadthem before the upgrade
02:21 Seroster And a nice show piece for thegeekgroup, six bucks!  http://www.electronicsurplus.com/Item/5855/DOW%20CORNING%20-%201_%20SILICON%20WAFERS%201_2-Inch%20Thick-%20NEW%20-%20POW%20%20SLS%20SEH-39%20%20B6623297DH/
02:21 BotSteve Title: POW SLS SEH-39 B6623297DH - 1" SILICON WAFERS 1/2-Inch Thick- NEW
02:21 Hackbat they're going to ruin the damn site trying to be "cheap"
02:21 eadthem you can get those on ebay
02:21 eadthem ok
02:21 eadthem not that
02:22 eadthem i thought it was a wafer
02:22 Seroster IZ A BLOCK! =P
02:29 tonsofpcs Cprossu: huh?
02:29 Seroster Heh
02:29 Seroster Mine
02:29 Seroster Mine
02:29 Seroster Mine
02:29 Seroster http://www.hiwtc.com/products/40-5-kv-disconnect-switch-857608-58219.htm
02:29 BotSteve Title: 40. 5 Kv Disconnect Switch
02:29 tonsofpcs Cprossu: whatcha want?
02:29 Cprossu tonsofpcs: 90 ohm coax: wtf is it for?
02:30 tonsofpcs coax, not triax?
02:30 Cprossu http://www.electronicsurplus.com/Item/41318/HAVEG%20INDUSTRIES%20INC_%20-%20Cable_%20coax_%2030-2C_%2090%20Ohm%20twin%20lead_%20-%20819159_%20%20S-626032-79/
02:30 BotSteve Title: 819159, S-626032-79 - Cable, coax. 30-2C. 90 Ohm twin lead.
02:31 tonsofpcs erm, twin lead isn't coax.....
02:31 Seroster Isnt it?
02:31 Cprossu whatever anyway what's it used for?
02:31 Seroster Core and strand, two leads?
02:32 tonsofpcs "twin lead" is a term used for two identical (twin) leads...
02:32 Seroster Righto. Then it can't be used for gg cameras and isnt really relevant.
02:32 eadthem all ya need to do to getto sharpen a drill bit    a 3600 RPM grinder    and a steady arm with a drill
02:33 eadthem a fast drill
02:33 tonsofpcs anyway, video is usually 75 ohms
02:34 tonsofpcs that said, at 6MHz, short runs probably don't care too terribly much about impedence mismatch, especially if there's compensation tweaks available
02:34 * Monkeh grumbles about difficult to find caps
02:34 tonsofpcs Monkeh: what kind?
02:34 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Bog standard electrolytic but I'll be damned if anyone stocks the thing.
02:35 Cprossu Monkeh: 6.3v?
02:35 Monkeh Going to have to pay four times what I should on ebay for one. :/
02:35 Monkeh Cprossu: 16V
02:35 Cprossu wow that is bog standard
02:35 Cprossu what size?
02:35 Seroster I have lots, monkeh
02:35 Monkeh Seroster: 1500uF, 105C?
02:35 Seroster yup
02:35 Monkeh Seroster: 10mm diameter?
02:35 Seroster More or less
02:36 Monkeh Seroster: Well if it's much more it physically won't fit.
02:36 Monkeh 11mm, max.
02:36 Seroster Mate, wires. =P
02:36 Seroster Form, function.
02:36 Monkeh Seroster: Mate, limited space. :P
02:36 Seroster Make the power transfer wireless with a tcl.
02:36 Seroster tc*
02:37 Monkeh Powering my router with a TC? That'd be an interesting experience.
02:37 Seroster yup
02:37 tonsofpcs apparently 92-93 ohm is used in some networking applications.
02:37 Monkeh Seroster: If you've got a cap to fit, me love you long time.
02:38 Monkeh (don't really need it but if I'm soldering on this board, ffs, I may as well replace the cap which caused me to rip the case open in the first place)
02:38 Seroster hey Cprossu http://www.electronicsurplus.com/Item/153941/USA%20-%20Cable_%20coax_%20RG6_U%2075%20Ohm_%2018-1C_%20-%20A019/
02:38 BotSteve Title: A019 - Cable, coax, RG6/U 75 Ohm. 18-1C.
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02:40 Seroster Might be some cat5 here  http://www.electronicsurplus.com/leftnav/wire_cable/multiconductorshielded.cat       And here's copper/copper coax (75ohm) - if you really want it. Cheap as dirt.   http://www.electronicsurplus.com/Item/41247/BELDEN%20WIRE%20-%20Cable_%20coax_%20plenum_%2075%20Ohm%20RG-59_U_%20-%20YQ11429%20%20%20%20RG-59/
02:40 BotSteve Title: YQ11429 RG-59 - Cable, coax, plenum. 75 Ohm RG-59/U.
02:40 Monkeh Seroster: Eww, alu shield.
02:41 Monkeh Seroster: Also eww, airspaced.
02:46 Seroster http://www.tug44.org/machinery.electrics/electrics/images/powerdistribution11-1.jpg I might just... cry of happiness
02:46 Seroster That... I need it. I need to make precious love to it.
02:46 * Seroster gets that distant look in his eyes and goes to sleep
02:46 Seroster Goodnight folks
02:46 Monkeh Seroster: It'll kill you.
02:46 Seroster ITS ART
02:46 Toastdude Night Seroster
02:46 Seroster cya toastie
02:47 tonsofpcs Monkeh: airspaced? where?
02:47 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Right there: http://www.electronicsurplus.com/Item/41247/BELDEN%20WIRE%20-%20Cable_%20coax_%20plenum_%2075%20Ohm%20RG-59_U_%20-%20YQ11429%20%20%20%20RG-59/
02:48 BotSteve Title: YQ11429 RG-59 - Cable, coax, plenum. 75 Ohm RG-59/U.
02:49 tonsofpcs erm, that's copper braid and some sort of plastic dielectric....
02:49 Monkeh tonsofpcs: .. airspaced dielectric.
02:50 Coderjoe uhmm... this may sound stupid, but... is Chris running the drill in reverse?
02:50 Monkeh Coderjoe: I'll let you know when I've watched it.
02:50 Monkeh Knowing the guys at the lab, probably.
02:51 Coderjoe would explain why he's having a hard time actually making a hole
02:51 tonsofpcs erm, that looks solid (well, as solid as a plastic polymer gets)...
02:53 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Crap camera. I've used that sort of cable before.
02:53 Monkeh tonsofpcs: It's basically two tubes very thinly linked by five or so little threads.
02:54 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Different type of cable, but: http://www.microwave.gr/content/sman3r5.jpg
02:54 tonsofpcs also, btw, true air dielectric is good stuff ;) : http://www.eriinc.com/Files/59/59417f38-68af-4d32-833e-dc4ad7e80d56_200_200.jpg
02:55 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yes, but air-spaced coax like that is not good stuff.
02:55 Monkeh It's easily kinked or crushed and acts as a wonderful pipe for the slightest bit of moisture to run straight INTO your equipment
02:56 Monkeh Also, Google are made of immense amounts of suck because I can no longer just link to an uploaded photo, it HAS to be 'shared' on google +
02:56 tonsofpcs right, I know what you're talking about -- I don't think that's it.
02:57 tonsofpcs that's not LDPE, but I don't think it's that spoked plastic crap either.
02:57 Monkeh I think it is
02:57 Monkeh tonsofpcs: It even says 'plenum'
02:58 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Which, judging from the pretty plain sheath, suggests to me that they mean it's air-spaced.
02:58 tonsofpcs "plenum cable" is cable that is rated to run in a "plenum" (air return/exchange) space
02:58 tonsofpcs it's the US equivilant (code-wise) of LSZH
02:58 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I'd expect the sheath to be coloured to indicate that, it typically is everywhere else.
02:59 Monkeh And the sheath material doesn't look like LSZH anyway
02:59 tonsofpcs white is a pretty common plenum color.
02:59 tonsofpcs LSZH is completely different from plenum in reality, it's just used by code in a similar manner.
02:59 tonsofpcs plenum = burns really slowly and lets out all sorts of toxic gasses
02:59 tonsofpcs LSZH = doesn't kill people.
03:00 Monkeh Like most cable sheaths aren't self-extingushing anyway
03:00 Monkeh Meh, more US dain bramage. ;)
03:00 tonsofpcs welcome to US code...
03:00 tonsofpcs I'd rather use LSZH
03:01 tonsofpcs but buying LSZH is a pita here, since there's no code reason for it to exist, economically it doesn't make sense to offer it as a normal item.
03:01 Monkeh I'd rather not have plenum spaces, but that's me.
03:01 eadthem when ive seen mix cement   its typicaly with a corded drill  and with a cheeter handle on the drill
03:01 tonsofpcs we had a visit from the code enforcement lady once.  She started ranting about how our cables in the drop ceiling needed to be plenum-rated.  I told her that all of the (20 in one room, mind you) air vents in the drop ceiling were connected to ductwork and that the ceiling wasn't a plenum.
03:02 eadthem and its ususaly not a small motor
03:02 Monkeh eadthem: When I mix cement it's with a 3HP motor on a tripod.
03:02 * Monkeh doesn't play around
03:02 tonsofpcs she started with the buts about how you could turn a non-plenum into a plenum accidentally when we were in the room with return on the ceiling and a raised floor....
03:03 eadthem ya  donsent matter what you use   no cordless drill was ment for constnat duty cycle
03:03 Monkeh eadthem: Are they abusing that Dewalt again?
03:03 eadthem smokeing
03:03 Monkeh ... when they have a corded Bosch which can take a proper mixer bit and is designed to do that?
03:04 Monkeh (seriously, I know people who've mixed plaster with those drills for 15 years. The drill does not care.)
03:04 Monkeh Time to get a ham sandwich and watch the blog I think
03:04 tonsofpcs belden doesn't list any of that crap in their catalog.  They do list HDPE dielectric RG59/U
03:05 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Probably because the cable's been sitting for years.
03:07 Coderjoe the purpose of plenum is that it doesn't let out toxic gases, iirc
03:08 tonsofpcs *looks for the awesome video for Coderjoe *
03:10 tonsofpcs while I look, here's a PDF: http://www.l-com.com/multimedia/tips/tip_flammability_toxicity_ratings.pdf
03:12 Coderjoe hmm. I guess he wasn't, it just looked like it for some reason
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03:18 BotSteve Cookies, Sandwiches, Skittles, Oh my!
03:19 wannabe1987 who wants cookies?  thers like 4 containers here
03:19 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
03:19 BotSteve At 01:07Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell wannabe1987 he thinks it was GVSU, not GRCC
03:19 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell Toastdude that that makes more sense
03:19 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when Toastdude is around.
03:19 Toastdude Hi wannabe1987
03:19 BotSteve toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
03:19 BotSteve At 03:19Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell toastdude that that makes more sense
03:19 wannabe1987 lol hi
03:19 Toastdude :D
03:19 tonsofpcs hmm, I can't seem to find it.  Somewhere out there is a video of a vertical flame test for LSZH, Plenum (CMP), Riser (CMR), and Generic cable.
03:19 wannabe1987 lwq1996
03:20 wannabe1987 o god we're watching yo gabba gabba
03:22 wannabe1987 this show is the <no words>
03:22 wannabe1987 ....
03:22 wannabe1987 .yt yo gabba gabba you'll get it
03:22 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymlNZh0Zw70
03:22 wannabe1987 no....
03:23 wannabe1987 o well.  you're saved
03:23 wannabe1987 these are horrible
03:23 wannabe1987 hi
03:24 * wannabe1987 goes back to failblog
03:24 tonsofpcs oo, found it I think: http://www.l-com.com/multimedia/video_clips/video.aspx?ID=13100
03:24 BotSteve Title: Video: Flammability Tests
03:35 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: Oh dear. He's doing it wrong again.
03:36 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: He's running far too fast and it's stainless.
03:36 Monkeh|Lap You go SLOW with big drills, man. D:
03:37 Cprossu lol
03:37 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Man, he might be good with lots of volts, but that man is DANGEROUS with power tools. :D
03:38 Cprossu indeed he is
03:39 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Don't let that man have a circular saw. Ever.
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03:41 hopstafarian hi all...hope that everyone is well...
03:41 wannabe1987 hi
03:42 hopstafarian wannabe1987, hey...still headache free?
03:42 wannabe1987 yeah
03:42 wannabe1987 want my sickness?
03:42 hopstafarian wannabe1987, nice
03:43 dbshortwave i think i have an ulser
03:44 hopstafarian wannabe1987, actually, you asked who would take your headache that one time, and sure enough, the next day had to fight off my first migraine in 3 years..debilitated me for the first 1/3 of my workday...had to fake my way through it....
03:44 wannabe1987 lol
03:44 hopstafarian wannabe1987, what sickness is that, and in advance, i'm sorry..
03:44 wannabe1987 i don't know...its in my throat tho and my voice is lower :/
03:45 hopstafarian dbshortwave, had a bleeding stomach ulcer....much better, here's the trick...just avoid ingesting or worrying about anything of import, or that gives you pleasure...
03:46 hopstafarian wannabe1987, head cold sinking down into the lungs?
03:46 wannabe1987 don't know....tomorrow is christmas tho :P
03:47 dbshortwave lol i think im going to take my time one day and clean the yard its something that sorta worries me but i will feel better when i pull this old play fort down and start work on makeing it into a radioshack formyself
03:47 hopstafarian wannabe1987, what time zone are you in, cause it's only weds evening here...and xmas is sunday the 25th...?...or did you mean when you're celebrating?
03:48 wannabe1987 we're celebrating lol
03:48 hopstafarian wannabe1987, don't chuckle..will feel good for a second, but then you'll start coughing...
03:49 wannabe1987 lol i know....and i'm surrounded by funny people :P  i've been laughing all nigth (and then coughing)
03:49 eadthem i will LOL if they turn it upright and you hear a loud clug clug  from the concreat shifting because it hasnt set
03:50 hopstafarian eadthem, speaking of concrete, if you find some bones, pretty sure it's Hoffa...
03:51 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos: Gemini Control Cabinet Upgrade http://youtu.be/L7ge1BvgwV0
03:52 dbshortwave i need to pack it in for the night
03:54 wannabe1987 yeah?
03:54 wannabe1987 we're gonna play catchphrase :P
03:54 wannabe1987 help.me
03:55 wannabe1987 hawaii is getting snow but michigan isn't....wtf
03:55 sndwrx ...It's snowing in Hawaii?
03:55 wannabe1987 http://blogs.woodtv.com/2011/12/22/white-christmas-in-hawaii/
03:55 BotSteve Title: White Christmas…in Hawaii? | WOODTV.com Blogs
03:55 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
03:56 sndwrx Certainly my aunt would be calling if it were.
03:56 wannabe1987 on the highest mountains :P
03:56 wannabe1987 but still
03:56 hopstafarian so wrote my first blog ever, which was also for work...toootally uninspired....was about electronic theft and guarding against it...but the point being, was that our , err, social media director wanted to throw a title on there that was a little disparaging. as it kinda seemed to perpetuate a mindset that villified the technology, (blamed the plane), as opposed to factoring in pilot/human error...
03:57 wannabe1987 hows sndwrx these days?
03:57 hopstafarian wannabe1987, wtf? inconvenient tooth.....?
03:57 wannabe1987 huh?
03:58 hopstafarian wannabe1987, err, global warming, snowing in HI but no MI?
03:58 wannabe1987 yes
04:01 hopstafarian so this was her title..."Card Skimming and other annoying technology wonders"..., inspired, right?
04:02 eadthem ?
04:03 wannabe1987 who knows
04:03 eadthem electronic theft
04:03 eadthem of credit cards?
04:03 eadthem or content
04:03 hopstafarian eadthem, yes, to the cc theft, specifically card skimming...
04:03 eadthem what was your title?
04:05 hopstafarian eadthem, i actually gave her several, trusting her judgement....what is the appropriate way to share a small text file on irc?
04:05 eadthem tell her that while her title is ok    x has better rateings with the target audiance after extensive market research  (us and here)
04:05 eadthem pastebin  or my drop box
04:05 wannabe1987 i'm bored
04:06 wannabe1987 there.  i answered their question
04:06 wannabe1987 and i have a low battery and no cord :/
04:06 hopstafarian eadthem, good answer, though will have to dumb it down, so that the risk of me having too much coffee and talking a little fast might induce a seizure in the uninitiated...
04:07 hopstafarian wannabe1987, yes, yes you did...as always, a pleasure..
04:07 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/post/  4GB233i3odwE$*rRB0j    output http://final.servegame.com/post/files/
04:07 BotSteve Title: Index of /post/files
04:07 eadthem or pastebin
04:07 wannabe1987 ?  they're (the humans around me) are playing catch phrase., and i answered the question for them cuz they didn't know
04:09 eadthem ooo heven forbid you involve your self in "human interaction"
04:09 wannabe1987 lol
04:09 wannabe1987 i've been hanging out with them, but the people i was talking to went up stairs to play dominion.
04:09 wannabe1987 in teh middle of a convo :/
04:09 eadthem that might be a bit  hipocritcal
04:09 wannabe1987 and i'm losing my voice....so....
04:09 wannabe1987 i can't talk loudly
04:10 hopstafarian wannabe1987, fortunately, you're vocal cords are now your fingers..
04:10 eadthem yes  problem solved
04:10 eadthem several of them
04:10 wannabe1987 yes
04:10 wannabe1987 :P
04:10 eadthem mmm got to say   i was realy worred how my flights a couple weeks ago would go
04:11 eadthem mostly about the crouds and big airports
04:11 eadthem went thrue dullus (DC)  and detroit  and didnt have a signle issue
04:11 hopstafarian eadthem flights?,,,aspiring, err apparently e.coast based pilot...?
04:12 hopstafarian eadthem, somewhere it VA?
04:12 eadthem i had to go from KC to  new york for universal insturments training
04:12 eadthem i was realy dreadign the crouds  but didnt have a big issue
04:13 wannabe1987 you don't like crowds?
04:13 hopstafarian eadthem, was it ATC that made you nervous, or the "pressure" on the airport and pattern that made it tasking?
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04:13 eadthem pattern?
04:14 eadthem no  just the headach of trying to navagate a huge airport packed with other pepole  without beaing able to see a map of it online before hand :p
04:14 hopstafarian eadthem, how busy it was, or that you didn't have complete trust in the process?
04:14 wannabe1987 ah
04:14 eadthem not busy and the latter beaings it was my first flight
04:14 hopstafarian eadthem,  first flight ever?
04:15 eadthem yep
04:15 wannabe1987 i love flying
04:15 wannabe1987 how did you not fly before?!
04:15 eadthem never had to
04:15 eadthem i have a car
04:15 wannabe1987 hm
04:16 eadthem id do it agan in a heart beat if it was cheeper than driving
04:16 eadthem hell if grand island nebraska had service to KC  id prob fly home givin it would cost about the same as gas
04:16 eadthem sadly they only have service to dallas and las vegas   go figure
04:16 hopstafarian eadthem, i cant imagine...grew up in a pilot family...get kicked out if you can't at least play along...my grandmother has a license...grossfader friends with w. post, apparently...
04:17 hopstafarian wannabe1987, flying commercially, or in light aircraft..?
04:18 wannabe1987 i fly commercailly, i've flown to haiti and england, and i want to go back to europe
04:18 eadthem i was realy impressed with the airbus318 that dose the KC detroit shuttle
04:18 Gaxnys wannabe1987: what part of Europe? :P
04:18 wannabe1987 spain
04:18 wannabe1987 and back to england
04:18 Gaxnys Oh. :D
04:18 Toastdude Oh, hello Gaxnys
04:18 wannabe1987 and scotland....i only spent a few hours there
04:19 wannabe1987 unless tgg members will host me!
04:19 ajprog_laptop I am going to england in March
04:19 eadthem that thing was nice compared to the delta connections thingy that went from binghamption to detroit
04:19 wannabe1987 WIN!
04:19 Gaxnys Never been there, despite the fact that I live in Europe. :P
04:19 wannabe1987 why?
04:19 wannabe1987 where?
04:19 Gaxnys Sweden. :D
04:19 Gaxnys Toastdude: hey. o:
04:19 wannabe1987 ajprog_laptop: where in england you going?
04:19 hopstafarian wannabe1987, i'm sorry; hopsta is kiiinda a dumb*ss and slow on the uptake...you fly professionally?
04:19 wannabe1987 no
04:19 wannabe1987 i fly to go places
04:19 wannabe1987 i am not a pilot
04:20 ajprog_laptop I have a business conference in Northampton
04:20 hopstafarian wannabe1987, ty for answering my dumb query nicely...
04:20 wannabe1987 you flying into london?
04:20 ajprog_laptop I am not sure yet, probably
04:20 wannabe1987 fun
04:21 wannabe1987 damn computer....
04:22 hopstafarian wannabe1987, "wont do what i want, only what i tell it to do"...
04:22 wannabe1987 no, its dying :P
04:22 wannabe1987 like i have 12% battery left
04:22 wannabe1987 and i left my cord at home
04:22 eadthem ither of you been thrue KCI/MCI?
04:23 wannabe1987 and these people have macs :P
04:23 hopstafarian wannabe1987, oh, my mistake...
04:23 Gaxnys Well then you better lower your power usage wannabe1987. ;)
04:23 wannabe1987 lol i did...my screen is as dim as it goes
04:23 * Ponko pokes wannabe1987
04:24 wannabe1987 i got it Ponko
04:24 Ponko :P lol
04:24 hopstafarian wannabe1987,  bleeding ulcer AND failing eyesight...? ............Daaaaaaaaaaaamn, son!
04:27 hopstafarian neway, 'preciate the patience,...gonna go sober up/slash eat some food...sorry if i offend...apparently, that's my "thing"....
04:27 wannabe1987 my computer is dying .... bbl
04:28 Toastdude Bye wannabe
04:39 egrsteve h
04:40 egrsteve mm
04:40 egrsteve playing with ssh on iphone to irc
04:40 ajprog_laptop hi egrsteve
04:41 egrsteve hi jeff
04:42 egrsteve hmm, now my buffer size is off on my PC ssh session
04:42 egrsteve oh well
04:43 Toastdude Hello egrsteve
04:43 egrsteve anyone know of a decent iphone ssh app
04:43 Toastdude BatSteve!
04:43 egrsteve hi toast
04:43 eadthem mmm  i wonder if photonic got arrested for something
04:43 BatSteve egrsteve: I was just going to ask you that
04:43 eadthem or died
04:43 eadthem hes channels been silent for a week + now
04:44 egrsteve i was just trying one, it worked ok
04:44 Cprossu you didn't miss much, except cheap.....uh.... 90 ohm(?!) twin coaxial cable
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04:44 egrsteve it had a transparnt keyboard with command ie ctrl alt buttons ect
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04:46 Cprossu it's normal for photonic to dissapear weeks at a tinme I thought
04:47 eadthem someone sugested he hook a string of chrismas lights to his pulse cap
04:47 eadthem he might of done it and is still recovering
04:49 egrsteve iphone is *nux based getting a terminal app should be trivial, but it's not
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04:51 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 12-22-11 Viewer Mail, Hot Concrete, and Little Projects http://youtu.be/8sMi8oFbbGs
04:51 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
04:51 BotSteve You're welcome, Toastdude
04:51 Sgt_Lemming woot
04:52 Sgt_Lemming been called back for another interview
04:52 Sgt_Lemming that's promising
04:52 BatSteve congrats!
04:52 Sgt_Lemming not till 3rd jan, but oh well
04:52 Sgt_Lemming thanks dude
04:52 Sgt_Lemming it's a job I think I'd really enjoy as well
04:53 ajprog_laptop egrsteve: for an android you have to root it to have ssh
04:53 ajprog_laptop atleast I thought that is what I needed
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04:53 * wannabe1987 needs to stop driving and crying
04:54 egrsteve i have an i phone
04:54 * wannabe1987 needs to stop being so depress/ed/ing
04:54 ajprog_laptop why are you crying?
04:54 Cprossu for an android I Think there's a native teamviewer app at least, ssh, depends on the phone
04:54 * wannabe1987 needs to <insert here>
04:54 egrsteve there are ssh apps
04:54 egrsteve but no full terminals
04:54 ajprog_laptop egrsteve: I know you should upgrade :P
04:54 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, there is an iphone teamviewer client now
04:54 wannabe1987 ecause life aint fair
04:54 sndwrx connectbot
04:54 sndwrx connectbot is a good Android SSH app.
04:54 Sgt_Lemming what happened wannabe1987?
04:54 sndwrx And doesn't require rooting the device, IIRC.
04:54 wannabe1987 life aint fair
04:54 Monkeh|Lap Trying to use ssh on a phone is an exercise in great pain.
04:55 Monkeh|Lap The teamviewer client is neat, though
04:55 sndwrx I've been pretty pleased with Connectbot.  Moreso than the SSH apps I've used on iOS.
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04:58 Toastdude Wannabe!
04:58 wannabe1987 .
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05:00 BatSteve Monkeh|Lap: ssh on a phone is not hard, you just need a really comprehensive set of aliases
05:01 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: Really comprehensive. And the patience to do things you can't alias when you don't have a keyboard.
05:01 wannabe1987 why....
05:02 BatSteve actually, here's a question.  egrsteve: can you connect to the internet through a SOCKS proxy on an iphone?
05:02 * egrsteve starts rant at chris
05:02 wannabe1987 i don't even know anymore
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05:03 egrsteve when "muting a mic" for a dynamic if you want to mute it make the switch short across the wires
05:03 egrsteve not open it, short it, if condencer it's not so easy
05:04 egrsteve my sorting you dont get a POP noise
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05:05 Monkeh|Lap nnaaarrrggghhh
05:07 wannabe1987 why am i so sad/depressed?  why does life suck this year?
05:08 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, you've just gotten two jobs
05:08 Sgt_Lemming that seems pretty good to me
05:08 BatSteve wannabe1987: don't worry!  The year is almost over!
05:08 Sgt_Lemming indeed it is
05:08 wannabe1987 i know, but lem its a chemical imbalance and even if i take my pills it still doesnt' always work....
05:11 wannabe1987 i knew i shouldn't've gone tonight :/
05:11 wannabe1987 the only thing we share in common is our church/school....................
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05:13 NeWtoz heh, I don't think they've mixed concrete before
05:14 NeWtoz You don't put all the powder in the bucket... you mix it in gradually
05:14 NeWtoz and you so use an electric drill
05:15 Monkeh|Lap NeWtoz: Yeah, tell me about it..
05:15 Monkeh|Lap I've done that by hand three different ways, and they can get it wrong with power tools. :D
05:15 NeWtoz I just did
05:15 NeWtoz heh
05:15 NeWtoz yeah
05:15 Monkeh|Lap That poor Dewalt drill.
05:16 ajprog_laptop we will let you do it next time :P
05:16 Monkeh|Lap Hey, get me over there and I will
05:16 NeWtoz If I was paying more attention to the date, I would of been there
05:18 NeWtoz I am off all next week, if I can, I'll stop by a few days
05:23 wannabe1987 cool
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05:31 NeWtoz I know you are but what I am
05:31 NeWtoz wait
05:31 NeWtoz crap
05:31 wannabe1987 ....
05:31 wannabe1987 sawzall!
05:32 * NeWtoz is messing around
05:32 NeWtoz I CONFESS TO NOTHING
05:32 wannabe1987 o?
05:32 NeWtoz especially how I got that name
05:32 wannabe1987 .cookie NeWtoz
05:32 BotSteve Here you go, NeWtoz, I baked you a lemon sugar cookie!
05:32 wannabe1987 awww i wanted to know
05:33 NeWtoz it's a secret
05:33 ajprog_laptop trying to bribe him wannabe1987?
05:33 wannabe1987 no
05:33 ajprog_laptop lol
05:33 wannabe1987 i have cookies left over from tonight
05:33 wannabe1987 SO.MANY.COOKIES
05:33 NeWtoz I don't see a problem here
05:34 Monkeh|Lap Also
05:34 wannabe1987 i already have an extra 40lbs from cookies....i see major problems
05:34 Monkeh|Lap Those washers needed a nut on each side.
05:34 wannabe1987 theres 1lb of cookies to lwq1996 on the way there :D
05:34 Monkeh|Lap Otherwise they're not going to be connected to the rod properly.
05:34 ajprog_laptop I am still at the lab you can drop them off to me :)
05:34 wannabe1987 lol
05:34 wannabe1987 i might
05:34 wannabe1987 saturday
05:34 wannabe1987 if its open
05:34 wannabe1987 and i have any left :P
05:35 ajprog_laptop I don't know about sat, I have a party till 5:30pm I might stop by afterwards
05:35 wannabe1987 i have christmas tomorrow
05:35 wannabe1987 and then tgg:rpg at 8
05:35 NeWtoz My party starts at 4
05:35 NeWtoz Go Lions!
05:35 wannabe1987 mine starts at 10:30 :/
05:36 wannabe1987 and i have to frost more cookies in the am
05:37 Monkeh|Lap ajprog_laptop: You guys manage to clean that cement off the vessel?
05:37 Monkeh|Lap Because stainless or not that stuff sticks REAL well when it dries.
05:38 ajprog_laptop I don't think they have tried
05:38 Monkeh|Lap ajprog_laptop: It's going to be.. difficult, now it's dry.
05:38 ajprog_laptop they will probably not worry about it until they flip it back up
05:39 wannabe1987 not our probelm
05:39 wannabe1987 blem*
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05:40 wannabe1987 BotSteve
05:40 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
05:40 BotSteve No problem, wannabe1987
05:45 NeWtoz I need to find a "how to mix concrete" book on amazon and ship it to the lap
05:45 NeWtoz lab*
05:46 wannabe1987 lol
05:46 NeWtoz aww, no, "concrete for dummies" books
05:46 ajprog_laptop they will probably just rent a mixer again
05:47 wannabe-zz night guys
05:47 NeWtoz probably
05:47 masterofmonks NeWtoz: what do you need to know about mixing concrete?
05:47 Monkeh|Lap NeWtoz: Make sure it explains to Chris that concrete doesn't dry. ;)
05:47 ajprog_laptop goodnight wannabe-zz
05:47 Monkeh|Lap NeWtoz: Also that that was not concrete they were mixing.
05:47 NeWtoz masterofmonks, I don't need to know
05:48 NeWtoz what was it technically then?
05:48 Monkeh|Lap NeWtoz: That? Well I'm not sure what exactly was in it, but I'll call it a reinforced mortar.
05:49 Monkeh|Lap Or grout, actually.
05:49 ajprog_laptop grout with fiberglass
05:50 Monkeh|Lap Concrete would have an aggregate in it
05:54 Monkeh|Lap ajprog_laptop: How long did that whole process take once you got the mixer?
05:55 ajprog_laptop 1-2 hours
05:57 Monkeh|Lap Not too bad then
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06:04 Monkeh|Lap Aww, cute little 100L mixer.
06:05 Monkeh|Lap (had to look up the cubic foot.. yikes, you guys really do still use those)
06:08 NeWtoz It kinda fits our measuring system
06:10 ajprog_laptop yes, we don't use that crazy metric system
06:10 Monkeh|Lap ajprog_laptop: Don't say that around Seroster.
06:11 Monkeh|Lap NeWtoz: If you're there next week, don't let them talk you into cleaning that vessel off.. :D
06:11 eadthem why?
06:11 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Cleaning off dried cement?
06:12 NeWtoz I might wait until after that captains blog :)
06:12 eadthem its not like its coated
06:12 Monkeh|Lap There's only a few things more annoying to clean off.
06:12 eadthem just dried cement
06:12 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Have you tried removing cured cement?
06:12 ajprog_laptop we will let the first blast knock it off
06:12 eadthem there ya go
06:12 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: I've had it pull powder coat off rather than come off the paint.
06:13 eadthem i was thinking as soon as they started pouring   ya know that big red vibrator would be nice
06:13 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, would've been a lot of help in getting it down there
06:13 eadthem also did it occur to anyone that the washers wont do any good because they will not be accualy resting on the nuts?
06:13 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: I already said
06:14 Monkeh|Lap If you don't put nuts on both sides..
06:14 eadthem well the nuts will probably be enough anyway
06:14 ajprog_laptop eadthem: yeah I tyhought that
06:14 Monkeh|Lap Hopefully
06:14 Monkeh|Lap If not they'll have an enlightening moment when they go to lift it.
06:14 Monkeh|Lap Actually
06:14 eadthem ither that or we will have a nice captans blog next
06:14 NeWtoz I was thinking all they really needed to do was form an L
06:15 Monkeh|Lap I'd be more worried about the eyes failing
06:15 eadthem yep
06:15 Monkeh|Lap I'm not sure an inch of, what, I'm guessing the nearest thing to 10mm, thread will hold
06:15 eadthem phisicaly thers not much that will take that allthread out   even without nuts
06:15 Monkeh|Lap Ah, 1/2" wasn't it?
06:16 eadthem now after its been fired several times they might not be so sturdy
06:16 Monkeh|Lap I'd probably have used 16mm or so
06:16 eadthem ya 1/2 inch
06:16 Monkeh|Lap I'm also slightly concerned that they've made a mistake with a strong cement mix, but we'll see
06:16 eadthem what do ya mean?
06:17 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Even with fibre it's pretty prone to cracking.
06:17 eadthem this is true
06:17 Monkeh|Lap A weaker and more flexible filling would also be more effective at reducing noise
06:17 eadthem but consider the source will be imbeded in sand  that shuld help alot
06:17 Monkeh|Lap Some form of putty would've been nice, but oh boy would that have been hard to fill it with
06:17 eadthem what about makeing it liquid tight and filling it with a non newtonian fluid
06:18 Monkeh|Lap Actually
06:18 Monkeh|Lap I know exactly what to use
06:18 Monkeh|Lap Gelatin.
06:18 eadthem i think they also wanted to prevent the steel lineing from failing or trying to bend
06:19 Monkeh|Lap Yeah
06:19 Monkeh|Lap Well, it'll be interesting to see how it holds up
06:19 Monkeh|Lap I think a softer mix (add sand, use lime) would've worked better
06:19 eadthem has anyone considerd that they are applying a masssively intense magnetic feald to a steel structure?
06:19 Monkeh|Lap .. then again, lime? In their hands? Oh dear..
06:20 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Well it's stainless so depending on the exact mix, not so bad.
06:20 eadthem true
06:20 Coderjoe they were using a microwave oven shell as a testing blast chamber
06:20 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: A?
06:20 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: Try three.
06:21 sndwrx Talking about stomper?
06:21 Coderjoe only one at a time, though
06:21 sndwrx ha, yeah.  That was pretty cool.
06:21 eadthem ya but consider that  there was no concreat linieing behind it
06:21 Monkeh|Lap They ended up looking like colanders.
06:21 Monkeh|Lap And no sand.
06:21 sndwrx The bits of the coil BLASTED through the microwave walls.
06:21 eadthem it might flex in due to the EMP and snap back  releasign the concreat from it
06:21 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: That'd be an interesting noise.
06:22 Monkeh|Lap I predict brown underwear if it does that.
06:22 eadthem it would be a possable failure of the concreat
06:22 Monkeh|Lap It's not likely to though
06:22 Monkeh|Lap Sand fill remember.
06:22 eadthem ya well i was talking about the EMP doing that
06:22 Monkeh|Lap It'll struggle with a proper sand filling.
06:22 ajprog_laptop yes there is a bunch to guessing to what will actually happen and how it will work when we use it
06:23 eadthem id try fireing it with that lid open at first
06:23 Monkeh|Lap ajprog_laptop: Again, I predict brown underwear if anything doesn't go according to plan.
06:23 eadthem i worry that will make a pipe bomb
06:23 Monkeh|Lap If it goes wrong it's going to do so violently
06:23 ajprog_laptop eadthem: nope it will be closed and locked
06:23 eadthem atleast use like baltsa wood for the bottom plug  that way it has a emergancy release method
06:23 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: There won't be enough energy to do anything particularly violently outside that chamber
06:24 Monkeh|Lap Concrete filled and with a door like that..
06:24 eadthem waht if the chamber overpressures
06:24 ajprog_laptop we will all be outside of the room
06:24 eadthem iron pipe thread pipe and 2 endcaps is probabably better sealed  and it makes a mess
06:24 ajprog_laptop eadthem: there is a muffler that should handle the pressure
06:25 eadthem all im saying is that mufflers got a awfuly small hole going to it
06:25 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Said iron pipe doesn't have a hundred kilos of concrete around it
06:25 ajprog_laptop agreed
06:26 eadthem only one other thing    fill with sand + massive lithium grease on the seal
06:26 ajprog_laptop if it blows it will blow the top off which will go up
06:26 Monkeh|Lap ajprog_laptop: Hence his suggestion of using a relatively weak plug on the bottom.
06:26 Monkeh|Lap I happen to agree with that
06:27 eadthem maby balsa wood is to light
06:27 Monkeh|Lap 3mm ply on the other hand would be good
06:27 eadthem but just saying   first fireing   might be a decent idea to use somthing breakable on the bottom
06:27 Monkeh|Lap It'll fail long before that lid, but it shouldn't just break
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06:27 eadthem ya  1/8 or maby 1/4 inch plywood
06:28 Monkeh|Lap I wouldn't go to 6mm. That's not likely to break easily.
06:28 ajprog_laptop they might, I don't remember what material they are planning on making it out of
06:29 eadthem i just hope they have 5+ cameras on it when they fire it
06:29 Monkeh|Lap ajprog_laptop: Something which will break with a sharp blow from a normal hammer.
06:29 eadthem that way if it goes bad   MC can record it outside the room
06:30 Monkeh|Lap I just thought of a small problem
06:30 Monkeh|Lap They're intending to reuse the sand, right?
06:30 eadthem ya
06:30 eadthem well what dosent fuse
06:30 Monkeh|Lap The sand with small particles of copper wire left in it?
06:30 eadthem ooo
06:30 ajprog_laptop magnet
06:30 Monkeh|Lap That's going to backfire on them in a bad way.
06:30 Monkeh|Lap ajprog_laptop: .. copper.
06:31 Monkeh|Lap Just how big a magnet do they have on hand?
06:31 eadthem so how they going to seal the PVC tubes
06:31 ajprog_laptop not sure
06:31 eadthem accualy i think they would launch a tube + the tubes plug  before the lid woudl fail
06:32 eadthem and that would defantly make noise
06:32 Monkeh|Lap ...
06:32 Monkeh|Lap http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Frog_diamagnetic_levitation.jpg
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06:32 Monkeh|Lap Okay, if they can get one of those tubes
06:32 eadthem theres the next project
06:32 Monkeh|Lap The copper won't be a problem.
06:32 eadthem only for a human
06:32 Monkeh|Lap DAMN that's strong magnet.
06:33 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Yeah, I don't recommend that project.
06:33 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: They've only recently started testing those things on mice because they're not really quite sure what that strong a field will do to you.
06:34 eadthem if it rapidly collapises or expands
06:34 eadthem it could have similar effects to electrocution
06:34 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Also, are they playing with superconductors yet?
06:34 eadthem induced voltage is as good as conducted
06:34 BatSteve "Listen, test subject, during this next test we'll have a giant superconductor pointed at you.  I'll be honest, we're throwing science at the wall here to see what sticks.  No idea what it'll do to you"
06:34 Toastdude lol
06:34 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: :D
06:35 Monkeh|Lap That actually reminds me
06:35 Monkeh|Lap Would not a sufficiently powerful EMP have rather harmful effects on living things?
06:35 eadthem i mean pepole can feal intense MRI scans
06:35 Coderjoe "It might turn you into a puddle of sentient goo."
06:35 eadthem to the point of induceing pain
06:35 eadthem thers going to be a point where it could stop a heart
06:36 Toastdude It'd mess up your brain a bit...
06:36 eadthem ya know the magnet shown in that video
06:37 eadthem what else could it be doing other than affecting the iron in the blood
06:37 NeWtoz http://www.file-swap.com/
06:37 BotSteve Title: file-swap.com is fun: Give one file - get one free!
06:37 eadthem thats just a scary thought
06:37 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Nothing to do with iron
06:37 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: What's a frog's body mostly made of?
06:37 eadthem water
06:38 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: What is water?
06:38 eadthem hydrogen and some oxygen
06:38 Monkeh|Lap I mean magnetically.
06:38 eadthem iron
06:38 Monkeh|Lap No..
06:38 Monkeh|Lap Water is diamagnetic
06:39 NeWtoz Dihydrogen Monoxide, It can kill you
06:39 Monkeh|Lap In the presence of a magnetic field it creates an opposing magnetic field.
06:39 Toastdude Diamagnetic
06:39 eadthem that i didnt know
06:39 Coderjoe mmm... water poisoning. it is a real thing
06:39 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Simple experiment. Got any HDD magnets?
06:39 eadthem a fue
06:40 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Any thin, rigid sheets of material. Glass or plastic or similar.
06:40 eadthem i got a empty SMT reel thats clear plastic
06:40 Monkeh|Lap Very thin.
06:40 Monkeh|Lap Must be rigid
06:40 eadthem prob not enough
06:40 eadthem ridged yes
06:40 Monkeh|Lap Like 2mm or so
06:40 eadthem easy
06:40 Monkeh|Lap Okay
06:40 eadthem its like 1mm
06:40 Monkeh|Lap Make sure it's utterly level
06:40 Monkeh|Lap Put a grape on top.
06:41 Monkeh|Lap Now put your magnet on the bottom and move it around the grape.
06:44 Monkeh|Lap That's actually something they need to explore in the lab
06:44 Monkeh|Lap Varying magnetic properties
06:44 * eadthem is having trouble finding the HDD magnet that was stuck to the side of his case
06:45 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: You'll also find that a sufficiently strong magnet will attract aluminium.
06:45 eadthem will this work on just water?
06:46 eadthem no grapes avalable
06:46 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: You'll really have difficulty seeing it with water.
06:46 eadthem im prob screwd then   no grape   and only a ceramic magnet
06:46 Monkeh|Lap But if you can get it level and smooth enough for a drop to sit there, yes, it should work
06:47 Monkeh|Lap Been a while since I've done it
06:47 eadthem it will have to wait
06:47 eadthem i dont want to get out the electromagnet
06:48 Monkeh|Lap Get a grape and find a proper magnet and try it some time
06:48 eadthem we had a argument last time    it tryed to send 2KV across my chest
06:48 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Yeah, that's not much fun
06:48 dr_jkl its not that difficult
06:49 dr_jkl water is a diamagnetic liquid
06:49 ajprog_laptop hi dr_jkl
06:49 eadthem flyback is an evil thing  paticuarly when your not expecting it from a 5v 1amp supply
06:49 dr_jkl it will be slightly repelled by a magnet
06:49 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Yeah but finding a surface smooth enough for it to work nicely on is often hard.
06:49 Monkeh|Lap Not many people have sheets of thin glass or the like around
06:50 dr_jkl Monkeh|Lap: do it like nurdrage did it. test tube on a foam float in a pan of water.
06:50 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIrb9iwXe0U&amp;feature=related
06:50 BotSteve Title: Magnetic Grapes - YouTube
06:51 Monkeh|Lap Yep, that's one way to do it
06:51 dr_jkl BotSteve: google nurdrage magnetism water
06:51 dr_jkl 1google
06:51 Monkeh|Lap .g nurdrage magnetism water
06:51 BotSteve Monkeh|Lap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyqOTJOJSoU
06:51 CaptainNiobe 'night all :)
06:51 dr_jkl that
06:54 Toastdude Night CaptainNiobe|AFK
06:55 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?src_vid=jyqOTJOJSoU&amp;v=A1vyB-O5i6E&amp;feature=iv&amp;annotation_id=annotation_178827
06:55 BotSteve Title: levitating frog - YouTube
06:55 dr_jkl that was a frog in what gas?
06:56 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Uh, normal air.
06:56 dr_jkl or was it just magnetism
06:56 dr_jkl oooh, i'm thinking of the frozen golfish trick
06:56 dr_jkl sorry
06:56 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Yeah, that's just pure diamagnetic effect on the water in the frog. Cool eh?
06:56 Monkeh|Lap They're doing that with mice now.
06:56 dr_jkl yes
06:58 eadthem falling asleep  off to bed cya
06:59 Toastdude Bye eadthem
07:07 egrsteve morning persons
07:11 Coderjoe man... it would be nice if i could find specs for the leds in my flashlight. considering souping it up with brighter leds
07:13 dr_jkl egrsteve: 'lo
07:20 * Experimentonomen produces more weird stuff: http://i.imgur.com/HWb7Q.png
07:32 Av_Nekoroms mornin everyone
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07:41 Sgt_Lemming http://www.overclockers.com.au/image.php?pic=images/newspics/23dec11/16.jpg
07:41 BotSteve Title: OCAU Image - Overclockers Australia
07:41 Cprossu rofl
07:41 Cprossu buns a little off though
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09:20 Cprossu BotSteve: tell egrsteve I keep on forgetting but that (harris? leitch?) rack with the '6801' cards, the prefix on the cards is what matters and tonsofpcs thought he had documentation for the rack and probably the cards too, (eg ADC-6801, DAC-6801, VSD-6801) and they could be distribution amps at the least, digital-analog or reverse at the most. from: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/out.pl?channel=thegeekgroup;date=2011-12-18
09:20 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
09:20 BotSteve Title: IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-18
09:42 Ycarene You guys think you could use some dead 3 phase motors?
09:45 JA12 someone called Rafael has emailed me with the subject "I fell in love with you as soon as I saw your picture!"
09:45 JA12 unfortunately I'm already married with spam so no dice
09:46 Ycarene That's ... creepy
09:47 JA12 there wasn't so much chrismas related spam as I expected
09:48 JA12 *christmas
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11:29 * Experimentonomen listens to hardstyle
11:42 * mantere listens to Sander van Doorn recorded live @ ASOT 500
11:50 * Experimentonomen feels like goin to bed cuz hes really tired despite beeing mid day
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13:40 injektion There was a power drop yesterday and I think it damaged this LCD monitor :|
13:41 injektion Every now and then for a split second the backlight stops working
13:49 dbshortwave off top get my mrs be back in an hour
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14:33 * wannabe-zz doesn't have a voice. shoot
14:33 wannabe-zz and i over slept
14:33 wannabe-zz so i will see you guys later!
14:35 CaptainNiobe|AFK morning all :)
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15:20 dbshortwave ok
15:23 CaptainNiobe hi dbshortwave :)
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15:41 dbshortwave Hi captainNiobe
15:41 dbshortwave http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJIuYgIvKsc&amp;feature=colike
15:41 BotSteve Title: Be a HERO and Help STOP SOPA Now!! I'll tell you How! This Video that Must Be SHARED! - YouTube
15:42 dbshortwave cprossu will get a charge out of that
15:44 CaptainNiobe lol... a minute in, and... to be fair, i reckon they didn't expect piracy to become such a big issue...
15:47 Seroster SparkyProjects,
15:47 SparkyProjects ?
15:48 Seroster BOOOOH!
15:48 Seroster Fluorescent tube armature in my bathroom. When left on for ten minutes it starts humming, 50hz.
15:48 Seroster Starters are changed and fine, so is the tube wich leaves the ballast
15:49 Seroster Could it be getting warm, changing its mechanical position and then start vibrating?
15:49 Seroster Could that be fixed with a drop of superglue?
15:51 SparkyProjects It could be vibrating against the case, in which case a bit of tigtening may work, or it could be internal, the laminations may be vibrating, not much you can do about that
15:55 Seroster crap
15:56 Monkeh Ballasts are frighteningly cheap
15:57 Seroster Yes.
15:57 Seroster If I was allowed to change it I would
15:58 SparkyProjects If you run it with the cover off, and can make it quieter by holding the ballast, then you might work out a way to quieten it, remembering that they get warm (rubber may smell)
16:02 Seroster heh
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16:12 mashpriborintorg hyia
16:15 Sgt_Lemming fscking hell, 90 minute captains blog
16:16 mashpriborintorg most of it is concrete mixing
16:22 dbshortwave lol
16:22 dbshortwave cleaning computer house
16:24 Sgt_Lemming he's also spinning that large drill bit far FAR too fast
16:26 mashpriborintorg at some point there is a red glowing drill bit
16:26 Sgt_Lemming big drill bit in stainless steel, he should be spinning it like 300 rpm
16:27 Sgt_Lemming not the 1000 rpm he was using
16:28 mashpriborintorg And they should have wait before putting back the cover plates, in order to help the concrete to cure
16:28 Sgt_Lemming not up to that bit
16:30 Sgt_Lemming I dunno where there drill press went
16:30 Sgt_Lemming their*
16:30 Sgt_Lemming but they use to have a really nice gear head column drill press
16:31 Sgt_Lemming and it would be big enough to fit that thing on
16:32 Sgt_Lemming we have one almost the exact same size
16:34 mashpriborintorg the damn thing should be strong enough at least, looks like some kind of small nuclear reactor :p
16:35 Sgt_Lemming yeah
16:35 Sgt_Lemming considering what the coils were doing to the microwaves, and they are planning to up ther power...
16:36 Cprossu masterofmonks, if they added some fins it could look like a rtg
16:37 Cprossu (and perhaps some green paint)
16:37 * masterofmonks blinks
16:37 masterofmonks What?
16:37 Cprossu *meant that @ mashpriborintorg
16:37 Cprossu didn't look
16:37 Cprossu (don't drink and <tab>)
16:38 mashpriborintorg oh yeah , rtgs are interesting, they have some scrap lead to salvalge for resale :p
16:39 masterofmonks Scrap, partially radioactive lead.
16:39 masterofmonks I however want to build an americium RTG
16:39 Cprossu was it PU238 or PU280 that they ran in the russian ones?
16:39 Cprossu I Can never remember
16:40 Cprossu or was it some odd isotope of thorium?
16:40 masterofmonks aCTUALLY i THINK IT WAS sTRONTIUM...
16:40 masterofmonks Damn capslock.
16:40 masterofmonks .wik rtg
16:40 BotSteve "A radioisotope thermoelectric generator (RTG, RITEG) is an electrical generator that obtains its power from radioactive decay." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator
16:41 mashpriborintorg possibly thorium yes, or some other nasty things
16:41 masterofmonks Strontium 90
16:41 mashpriborintorg there are still some of them abandonned onto the Siberian notr
16:42 Cprossu they used to power lighthouses with them iirc
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16:42 masterofmonks Probably still producing a small maount of power.
16:42 mashpriborintorg yeah in remote location as north Siberia
16:43 Cprossu woo
16:43 Cprossu http://www.funzu.com/index.php/crazy-pics/abandoned-nuclear-lighthouse-29092010.html
16:43 BotSteve Title: Abandoned Nuclear Lighthouse (21 Photos) | Crazy pics
16:44 mashpriborintorg hot pics :p
16:48 dbshortwave i wish i could find a schematic on this lil b/w CRT security camera
16:48 dbshortwave monitor
16:48 eadthem k so whats a nuclear lighthouse
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16:49 Sgt_Lemming a lighthouse powered by an RTG
16:49 Cprossu a lighthouse that uses a RTG for at least it's light
16:49 Sgt_Lemming not a nuclear reactor as most people think
16:50 Cprossu it's basically a really hot hunk of radioactive material that gets hotter as it decays
16:50 Cprossu and they put thermocouples around it
16:50 injektion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radioisotope_thermoelectric_generator
16:50 BotSteve Title: Radioisotope thermoelectric generator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:50 Sgt_Lemming was just about to link that :-P
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16:53 injektion I have it bookmarked :P
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17:08 eadthem brb  sending MIRC and logs to thumbdrive
17:12 ajprog_laptop .cookie
17:12 BotSteve Here you go, ajprog_laptop, I baked you a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie!
17:12 masterofmonks lwq1996: she said she over slept and had to go.
17:14 Hackbat we need to find something that can grow on the moon and put it there
17:15 masterofmonks I think the problem there is the lack of atmosphere.
17:15 masterofmonks And the bombardment of cosmic rays.
17:16 electricguy wiie! i just bought a new PSU for my pootah! :D
17:16 electricguy a corsair GS600
17:16 electricguy 48 fucking Amps on 12V!! O_O
17:16 electricguy http://www.corsair.com/gs600w.html
17:16 BotSteve Title: Gaming Series™ GS600 — 80 PLUS® Certified Power Supply
17:17 Sgt_Lemming electricguy, that's not unusual for modern computer PSU's
17:17 electricguy nah, but still quite a loty XD
17:17 electricguy lot*
17:17 Sgt_Lemming modern PC's run basicallly everything off 12v and any lower voltages are stepped down and point of usage
17:17 Sgt_Lemming or close to
17:18 electricguy yeah
17:18 mashpriborintorg I saw 80 or 100 amps onto a server psu
17:18 * electricguy knows
17:18 masterofmonks electricguy: Poontah?
17:18 Hackbat Well we just need fucking reaseatch
17:18 Hackbat I want to see a moon covered in geneticly breed moss
17:19 Sgt_Lemming the PSU's in the blade chassis we have are 2800 watt each, 288 amps at 12v
17:19 electricguy masterofmonks, Pootah* :P
17:19 electricguy computer....
17:19 Sgt_Lemming there are four of them...
17:19 masterofmonks No Poontah!
17:19 mashpriborintorg and a giant Geek group logo painted on the moon :p
17:19 electricguy lol
17:20 SparkyProjects http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16316439
17:20 BotSteve Title: BBC News - Bare bones Raspberry Pi PC gets ready to launch
17:20 electricguy tee hee, the PSU i bought got a 140mm fan :3
17:20 masterofmonks electricguy: :nsfw
17:21 Sgt_Lemming electricguy, the motherboard in my pc is 170mm²
17:21 Sgt_Lemming the main fan in my case is 180mm²
17:21 electricguy hehe ok
17:21 electricguy soo not neccesary :P
17:22 Sgt_Lemming actually it is
17:22 electricguy wel, if you want to gather dust they are awesome :)
17:22 electricguy well*
17:22 Sgt_Lemming because it's the ONLY intake fan for the case
17:22 Sgt_Lemming it has a dust filter on it
17:22 electricguy i got 2 120mm in the front of mine
17:22 Sgt_Lemming and it's on top of the case as well
17:23 electricguy logically a fan on the top of the chassie should be a outlet fan
17:23 electricguy as the heat travels upwards
17:23 Sgt_Lemming ARRRGGGG
17:23 Sgt_Lemming heat travels up in the absence of other airflow
17:23 Sgt_Lemming as soon as there is any other airflow, convection is useless
17:24 electricguy it totally depends on how powerful the fans are :P
17:24 Experimentonomen in the bottom and out the top through the psu, technically the psu should be the hottest running part of a computer as it get heated by everything else through the air flow
17:24 electricguy if you use shitty silent fans you totally need to think it through as they barely move any air at all! :P
17:25 lwq1996 you know i slept from 9:45 lastnight till 12
17:25 electricguy that's why i swapped the shitty ones with a pair of PAPST fans :)
17:25 Experimentonomen anyone ever seen a all metal papst fan like 25mm thick rated at 5 volts and 5 watts ? i havent
17:26 electricguy lol the PSU i bought is bigger IRL than it looks on the pics. haha! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXgQSokF4&amp;feature=player_embedded
17:26 BotSteve Title: Corsair Video FAQ: How to test a Corsair power supply - YouTube
17:27 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, I have one that is 76mm thick, runs on 24v and draws 4 amps... :-P
17:27 mashpriborintorg ooops the russian have failed one more satellite launch
17:27 electricguy balls, just saw that's the 1000 model...
17:27 electricguy stupid of them to put that video in the GS 600 section
17:28 electricguy Sgt_Lemming, nice! :D i got a 120mm 12V 3A 195CFM Delta fan.. XD
17:29 electricguy that's about 5500 liters of air in a minute :)
17:30 Hackbat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_tree
17:30 BotSteve Title: Moon tree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
17:30 Hackbat I love how we used to think the moon was magic
17:30 Hackbat and just orbiting would do something amazing to things
17:30 Sgt_Lemming we used to think most things were magic
17:31 Experimentonomen i have a 6" fan that wants 12 at 1.85A that moves 240CFM :P
17:31 Sgt_Lemming "Any significantly advanced concept is indistinguishable from magic"
17:33 Sgt_Lemming I have an 8" fan that draws 10A, no idea how much air it flows
17:34 Sgt_Lemming it's one of the blade centre cooling fans
17:34 Sgt_Lemming 8" drum fan, 120w
17:34 Sgt_Lemming there are two of them in the blade centres, they take about 90 seconds to spin up to full speed of 4500PRM
17:34 Experimentonomen centrifugal or cross flow ?
17:35 Sgt_Lemming centrifugal
17:35 Experimentonomen i used to have a mains fed can similar to that, that took maybe 10 minutes to coast to a stop
17:35 Experimentonomen fan*
17:36 Experimentonomen was one of those black box rooftop kinda deals
17:36 Sgt_Lemming these are brushless so when the stop they spin down reasonably quickly
17:36 Sgt_Lemming we got a new cooling fan for the space the other day, 24" 1.5Kw inline ducted fan
17:37 Ponko and were back with 92.1 THE SHARRRRK
17:38 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xje_duB8BrA¨<-- love that startup whine <3
17:38 Sgt_Lemming oh, I should mention it's a three phase fan :-D
17:38 BotSteve UnicodeEncodeError: 'ascii' codec can't encode character u'\xa8' in position 24: ordinal not in range(128) (file "/usr/lib64/python2.7/socket.py", line 224, in meth)
17:38 Sgt_Lemming kerblam
17:39 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOx9_zoHta0&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;NR=1
17:39 BotSteve Title: 3.3kV Thruster Solcon Soft starter - YouTube
17:41 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;NR=1&amp;v=IChM2qnLe9s <3
17:41 BotSteve Title: Donald Episode 135/138-Trick or Treat - YouTube
17:42 Sgt_Lemming amusingly enough, getting the concrete down in to all the cavitys in the blast chamber is the perfect application for bodens 35lb vibrator
17:43 mashpriborintorg they spoke about it but it is not used in the blog
17:49 SparkyProjects Seems they couldn't find it
17:50 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtWfdAzPfy8 :P
17:50 BotSteve Title: Startup and shutdown of a 400Hz three phase motor - YouTube
17:52 lwq1996 ok guys, whats the best way to get ahold of chris
17:52 electricguy facebook?
17:52 Experimentonomen goto lab and poke him ;)
17:52 Sgt_Lemming walk into TGG and tacklebearhug him
17:52 electricguy or maybe call him
17:53 electricguy lol
17:53 lwq1996 for my buissness careers class i need to do an interview on someone and i want to him
17:53 lwq1996 im in pa cant do it
17:53 electricguy skype with him maybe
17:53 SparkyProjects lee, send an email to info@
17:54 lwq1996 ok
17:54 Experimentonomen good luck, hes so busy he barely has time to take a piss
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18:01 Cprossu holy crap
18:01 Cprossu http://grandrapids.craigslist.org/tls/2765682906.html
18:01 BotSteve Title: GAS WELDER - 'UNION CARBIDE' WORKS! NEEDS TLC!
18:01 Cprossu that's a big mig welder
18:03 Cprossu that's like 250 amps, 100% duty cycle if I read that right
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18:08 electricguy lol. total fail on TGG minecraft server
18:08 electricguy "click below to enter the free build map"
18:08 electricguy *clicking* "You don't have permission to go there".....
18:09 electricguy Access to go there*
18:11 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66VSNW1dXBE epic win
18:11 BotSteve Title: Matt Bryants 62 yard Field Goal - YouTube
18:12 Sgt_Lemming mmm, so good but so bad
18:12 Sgt_Lemming munching out on cashews with pink river salt on em
18:15 Cprossu lol electricguy
18:16 mashpriborintorg damn I would like to know what the postal service is doing with my freq gen, 8 days it was sent and it is still in the departure post office, according to the tracking
18:16 mashpriborintorg 48 hours they say in their adverts
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18:27 dbshortwave Y U RUN FROM SANDVITCH ?! ITS JAHST HAM!
18:27 Seroster Wtf
18:27 Seroster Hello dbshortwave
18:27 dbshortwave lol hi
18:27 SuperPhosphate Hi
18:27 Sgt_Lemming lo
18:27 Seroster And hello SuperPhosphate
18:28 SparkyProjects Give them a call if you can (i would have called after 4 days max)
18:28 SparkyProjects I sent a parcel to TGG, tracking showed it took a while to get to New York, next thing it was showing as being back  in Heathrow, was waiting for it to be sent back to me, then it arrived at TGG, but was still showing as being at Heathrow :P
18:30 mashpriborintorg tracking sucks most of the time, not worth trying to call the customer service before Christmas is done, they are sinking under mountains of parcels right now :p
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18:48 Seroster AMPLIFY THE PINGMACHINE!
18:48 electricguy i have bought a MP3 Trigger V2! :D
18:48 lwq1996 wannabe you here
18:48 electricguy going to add ome sound effects to my lab! mohahhaa
18:49 electricguy some*
18:49 * electricguy gives a questionmark to lwq1996
18:54 Seroster God damn I love the meaning of life
18:54 Seroster Every sperm is sacred <3
18:54 Seroster A reference that none of my inbred hillbilly classmates get.
18:57 sabrinaaa joined #thegeekgroup
18:57 lwq1996 seroster kick her
18:58 sabrinaaa heyy(:
18:58 electricguy yeah! THAT'S THE SPIRIT of a nice IRC channel!
18:58 * lwq1996 gives sabrina a angry look >:|
18:58 Seroster Hey lee, fuck you =)
18:58 dbshortwave fayff
18:58 electricguy why kick newcomers? :P
18:58 Seroster sabrinaaa, If you are even half as annoying as you were yesterday you're out of here. Am I making myself clear?
18:58 lwq1996 ok read the log from yesterday you will see why i said that
18:59 electricguy ok, where can i find the log? :P
18:59 lwq1996 ok now that thats astablished
18:59 masterofmonks .log\
18:59 Seroster .log
18:59 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
18:59 electricguy thx
18:59 Seroster FAilmom
18:59 masterofmonks lwq1996: As long as she behaves herself she should be fine, everyone deserves a second chance.
18:59 lwq1996 ok
19:00 lwq1996 im still on my second chance sabrina
19:00 Seroster And even thirds, look at you lee, we might even like you a bit nowdays =P
19:00 lwq1996 seroster i only had 1 block and got chris to change that
19:01 * Seroster giggles
19:01 lwq1996 sabrinaaa just dont say your better than any of us, because some of us are gun nuts, me included
19:01 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
19:01 dbshortwave sabrina's are hawt
19:02 lwq1996 shes 14 db, your to old
19:02 wannabe1987 you again?!
19:02 wannabe1987 hi lee
19:02 lwq1996 hi
19:02 sndwrx Is there anything fun that I should remove from an all-in-one printer before getting rid of it?
19:02 lwq1996 what did you need me
19:02 electricguy hey hey wannabe1987 :3
19:02 masterofmonks wannabe1987: don't jump to confusions.
19:02 lwq1996 motors
19:02 sndwrx I had plans for a couple things from it, but have forgotten.
19:02 dbshortwave wait till shes 18 years older
19:02 * wannabe1987 got a griddle, book, shirt, star wars mug, eye shadow, and gift card and car fixings for christmas today
19:03 Seroster Hehe
19:03 Seroster sndwrx, motors
19:03 Seroster And ribbed drivebelt
19:03 mashpriborintorg light strip form the scanner
19:03 lwq1996 ok db is acting like a pediphile
19:03 Seroster Stay away from anything close to the ink cartridges since they will stain evrything
19:03 dbshortwave know what fuck this
19:04 mashpriborintorg small colour display if it is fitted with it
19:04 wannabe1987 sndwrx: does it work?
19:04 sndwrx no display on this one, unfortunately.
19:04 sndwrx that's right, I was going to see if I could use the scanner bulb for LCD backlight.
19:04 Seroster sndwrx, there might even be some 90deg iron pieces
19:04 wannabe1987 does it work?  i need a photo scanner
19:04 Seroster decent for structural work on small things
19:05 electricguy ok, sabrinaaa, i have ONE question now when i have read what you typed here yesterday. WTF are you even doing here?
19:05 masterofmonks And she chould ping out.
19:05 electricguy doh! too late
19:05 masterofmonks could*
19:05 masterofmonks electricguy: she is curious much like other people.
19:05 wannabe1987 electricguy: she copied the link from lwq1996
19:05 masterofmonks Curious about what lwq1996 is doing.
19:05 electricguy LOL
19:06 electricguy but saying that geeks are boring and that we don't have a life is not okey....
19:06 lwq1996 hi monks
19:06 lwq1996 she got on yesterday by looking at my link on the schools mac
19:06 Seroster Deal with it electricguy
19:06 masterofmonks electricguy: she hasn't learned otherwise.
19:06 electricguy n00b....
19:07 lwq1996 oh mom wannabe thought the irc wasnt for everyone and anyone that could behave
19:07 wannabe1987 its for geeks
19:07 wannabe1987 irc in general is for everyone.  tgg irc is for geeks
19:07 lwq1996 shes a band geek
19:07 Seroster .... Derp
19:08 wannabe1987 she clearly isn't a geek (our kind) if she thinks we're not "cool" and we need a life
19:08 wannabe1987 not the kind of person i need/want around
19:08 Seroster Who cares
19:08 masterofmonks wannabe1987: I have something for you.
19:08 sndwrx If someone is trolling, don't feed them.  I don't think it's fair to say this channel is exclusive, though.
19:09 Coderjoe stop all the segregatin'
19:09 sndwrx My perception has been that this channel is for hanging out, regardless of interest or ability.
19:09 Seroster Really, whoever the fuck can come here, geek or not, as long as they behave. Questions?
19:09 sndwrx Seroster: Thanks for putting it more simply, what I was trying to say.  ;)
19:10 Seroster Profanity has the ability to make stuff more understandable.
19:10 wannabe1987 "as long as they behave"  key terms
19:10 lwq1996 nope seroster
19:10 lwq1996 yes, i tried to make her behave
19:11 Seroster That is not your job, lee.
19:11 masterofmonks You can't make people behave.
19:11 masterofmonks You can however present a good example and encourage them to do the same.
19:11 wannabe1987 thats what i told you yesterday....you can't make people do things....which is why last night wasn't a good night at the party
19:11 lwq1996 i told her i would shut down teh coomputer is she didnt behave
19:12 wannabe1987 thats a threat
19:12 masterofmonks Which makes people more obstinate.
19:13 lwq1996 i shut down her computer
19:13 masterofmonks But notice she isn't here.
19:14 wannabe1987 she pinged
19:14 masterofmonks I am aware.
19:15 masterofmonks If she returns, it means that at some level there is interst in what is going on here. And we should feed that interest, instead of treating her like a dog that has soiled the carpet.
19:15 lwq1996 i dont want anyone at myschool that are not geeks in this chat room myself but hey i cant stop them
19:15 Seroster By rubbing peanut butter on her?
19:15 masterofmonks You get more out of positive reinforcement than negative.
19:15 masterofmonks Seroster: that is so :nsfw.
19:16 Seroster Not in a sexual way you strange man.
19:17 Monkeh Seroster: Pot and kettle.
19:17 lwq1996 i got to go
19:17 wannabe1987 awww
19:17 wannabe1987 bye :(
19:17 lwq1996 going christmas shoping
19:18 wannabe1987 ooo fun
19:18 lwq1996 no just me sitting in the car
19:18 Monkeh Christmas shopping two days before christmas is fun?
19:18 wannabe1987 :/
19:18 wannabe1987 no.  its not.  i recieved gifts today tho
19:18 Monkeh More like torture.
19:19 Monkeh I got an impulse buy gift.
19:21 lwq1996 later everyon
19:21 * lwq1996 hugs irc
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19:39 tgg|ajprog Cprossu: are you in?
19:44 wannabe1987 time to teach my sister to knit!
19:46 electricguy fucking noob... everyone know you can't make a jetpack from a pair of thermoses.... http://www.geeksaresexy.net/2011/12/19/steampunk-lady-builds-jetpack-pic/
19:46 BotSteve Title: Steampunk Lady Builds Jetpack [Pic]
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19:49 Sgt_Lemming that is a very yummy tummy
19:50 Hackbat 8D
19:50 Hackbat I have the gambler on LP
19:58 Seroster .g diameter between pins on SHUKO
19:58 Seroster erm. distance*
19:58 BotSteve Seroster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_60906-1
20:00 Seroster 13,5mm
20:07 wannabe1987 why do people insist on talking to someone that doesn't have much of a voice?
20:09 wannabe1987 electricguy: lol we both follow a same person onf b?P
20:09 wannabe1987 on fb* :P
20:09 electricguy oh? :P who?
20:10 wannabe1987 being a geek :P
20:10 electricguy ahh :P
20:10 electricguy OF COURSE! :D
20:10 wannabe1987 it showed up in my ticker and i was like lol
20:11 wannabe1987 the sad thing is, my family thinks my sister is more of a geek than i am becuase she has $$ for geeky things :/
20:11 wannabe1987 and she watches the geekier shows like dr who, etc
20:11 electricguy aww okey
20:12 wannabe1987 which isn't cool at all
20:12 electricguy nah
20:13 electricguy as long as your sister isn't in the Girls Of Geek group on FB it's not TOO bad! ;)
20:13 wannabe1987 i wouldn't know :/
20:14 electricguy :/ true
20:14 wannabe1987 i havent' looked :P
20:14 electricguy hee hee :)
20:14 wannabe1987 and whats the girls of geek?  and she's not really a geek....she is a mathy girl, yes, but dr who and what not....but computers?  teslas?  she doesnt' give a flying fuck about them....i don't know anything about them, but they're pretty damn cool
20:14 wannabe1987 she doesn't even know what a TC is
20:17 wannabe1987 nor does she know starwars vs startrek
20:17 electricguy huh okey
20:17 electricguy http://girlsofgeek.com/
20:17 electricguy ...XD
20:17 BotSteve Title: Girls Of Geek
20:17 wannabe1987 do i dare :P
20:17 wannabe1987 omg my computer sucks
20:17 electricguy you can even buy a CALENDAR with geek girls XD
20:17 electricguy yes it's safe for work :)
20:18 wannabe1987 lol
20:18 wannabe1987 good....is it safe for 10 year olds :P
20:18 Cprossu FUCKING HELL IT's IN OHIO.
20:18 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/LINDE-TIG-WELDER-/280766062672?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item415ef62050
20:18 BotSteve Title: LINDE TIG WELDER | eBay
20:18 electricguy i think so XD
20:18 Cprossu !@#$
20:18 electricguy it's nothing even near naked XD
20:18 wannabe1987 lol ok
20:19 electricguy Cprossu, nice little welder :)
20:20 electricguy Lise Foiles is really nice looking! :D
20:21 Cprossu lol one of the models used photoshop. (download Raychul Deck's photo and look at the thumbnail as opposed to the image itself)
20:21 Cprossu I'd probably call that near naked.
20:22 wannabe1987 its ok, they're occupied
20:22 Cprossu and apparently it was shot on an olympus camera
20:23 Cprossu (specifically a E-10)
20:23 electricguy speaking of girls and cameras.. I WANT MY NEW COMPUTER PSU!!
20:23 electricguy :D
20:23 Cprossu with flash, ISO-80, 15mm focal length @ F2, @ 72DPI/24 bit depth.
20:24 Cprossu rule 1) you don't ever send the original edited.
20:24 electricguy Cprossu, impressive that you were able to rightclick on the picture and shoe the picture details! :)
20:24 Cprossu I downloaded it betting the thumbnail would be of the original image electricguy
20:24 Cprossu and I was correct.
20:26 Cprossu bbl
20:27 Cprossu pizza time
20:27 wannabe1987 no, thats later, for supper :P
20:35 electricguy is zozo here?
20:35 Sgt_Lemming .seen sozo
20:35 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen sozo around.
20:35 Sgt_Lemming .seen zozo
20:35 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen zozo around.
20:35 Sgt_Lemming .seen guardianzozo
20:35 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I last saw nick:guardianzozo 331.48 hours ago at 2011-12-10 01:06:56 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 20:35:31 UTC
20:35 electricguy d'oh
20:36 wannabe1987 if i can't stand one day with these people, how can i stand 5 days/!
20:36 wannabe1987 ?!*
20:37 electricguy lol
20:37 electricguy take a looong walk maybe? :P
20:37 wannabe1987 lol
20:37 wannabe1987 yes
20:37 wannabe1987 yay!!!! foxytunes is back!
20:37 electricguy :P
20:39 electricguy hmmm, what fun sound effects can i add to my lab? :P
20:39 electricguy i got a startup sound for my lab desk and a big red button with the WTF BOOM sound... :P
20:39 wannabe1987 boing
20:39 electricguy i got 16 more channels on the player.. :P
20:39 electricguy hmmm maybe
20:40 electricguy maybe a turbine startup sound for the soldering station.. XD
20:40 SparkyProjects Something that sounds like a big transformer humming
20:40 electricguy ok, no real low pitch sounds
20:40 electricguy due to small speaker system and such
20:41 SparkyProjects It can hum at a higher frequency :P
20:41 electricguy then it's classed as whine.. XD
20:43 electricguy lol! the google logo is playing music :D
20:43 electricguy (jingle bells)
20:43 electricguy click all the squares under the logo. then it starts
20:43 wannabe1987 http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqipurwy981qctkcl.jpg  wtf
20:51 dbshortwave joined #thegeekgroup
20:52 electricguy Therecordlist is a pretty LOL site...
20:52 dbshortwave this will be my exit  wont be back cause i cant stand whiny bitches ... fuck you lee
20:52 dbshortwave heres a lil mat too
20:52 electricguy they want you to pay around 20 bucks for a sound file
20:52 dbshortwave 14 +18 = 32
20:52 wannabe1987 dbshortwave wtf
20:52 electricguy just rightclick on the file, save content as...
20:52 electricguy free files!
20:56 wannabe1987 win
20:59 Seroster hey SparkyProjects! Got a tv main board, without the yolk or degauss coil hooked in, what do you think my percentage for sparks from the flyback is if I plug it in as it is now? (No control boards either)
20:59 masterofmonks What the fuck was that?
21:00 wannabe1987 what, db's exit?  idk
21:00 SparkyProjects Seroster, i would guess 50/50, but more likely to get smoke (if it poweres up)
21:00 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, pretty freaking low
21:00 Sgt_Lemming yeah, much more likely to get smoke than sparks
21:01 Sgt_Lemming and maybe a bang or pop or two
21:01 Seroster Aiiight, do I hear five bucks on "no"?
21:01 masterofmonks And the fucked up part is that Lee isn't even here.
21:01 wannabe1987 i sent him a msg explaining how its not lee's fault these people copied a url from him
21:01 Seroster 10-1 nothing happens, eh? =D
21:01 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, if you take the flyback out it's not hard to drive them
21:01 Sgt_Lemming all you really need is a 555 and a mosfet
21:01 Seroster I know sarge
21:02 Seroster Evrything needed to run a flyback is.... Surprise surprise already inside the tv RUNNING the flyback
21:02 wannabe1987 and then he unfriended us....i'm so confused :/
21:02 SparkyProjects Don't even need a mosfet, the transistor(s) in the TV board will do nicely
21:02 SparkyProjects Even in old TV's i remember they had 3055's
21:02 Seroster ^
21:02 Seroster wannabe1987, Puberty just hit lee, and hit it hit hard.
21:03 wannabe1987 yes i know....i've been talking to him quite a bit lately thanks for the info
21:04 Seroster His hart broke over sabrinaaa?
21:04 wannabe1987 no
21:04 wannabe1987 he doesn't care for her at all
21:04 Seroster ...
21:05 Seroster In a nutshell, what is the situation?
21:05 wannabe1987 he was on irc in class (last day of school) and two or three classmates looked on his screen and saw the url, copied it and joined
21:05 wannabe1987 and then from what i read/have logged, trolled
21:05 Seroster .... yes
21:05 masterofmonks Not, despite dbshortwave's exit, fodder for this channel
21:07 electricguy Lee got 2 friends on FB named Sabrina, both are pretty
21:08 wannabe1987 .log
21:08 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
21:08 wannabe1987 people are <blech>
21:08 Seroster But
21:08 Seroster Well
21:08 Seroster Whats the fucking problem really?
21:09 wannabe1987 sabrinaaaa and the other two weren't following channel rules
21:09 Seroster They think hes geeky and he doesnt want to be in here anymore because they'll bully him over it?
21:09 Seroster Yeah I KNOW. What has that got to do with lee?
21:09 Seroster I.E why the fuck aint he here, and acting odd?
21:09 masterofmonks He is christmas shopping.
21:09 wannabe1987 he gets bullied enough at school, do they really need to be on here doing the same (if thats what they'll do, idk)
21:09 Seroster The 23rd?
21:09 masterofmonks That is the irony of dbshortwave's thing,
21:10 Seroster wannabe1987, if they bully him, or anyone else, in here we'll kick their asses. And if he's bullied at school there's ways to deal with it.
21:10 wannabe1987 i know there are for school
21:10 wannabe1987 noone seems to care/listen to him at school
21:10 Seroster preferably not the dylan clevebold or pekka ovinen way, but hey.
21:10 masterofmonks He's a kid, he is probably at the store now, still wondering what he wants to buy.
21:10 Seroster He aint complaining enough
21:14 wannabe1987 how much more has a kid got to complain?!
21:26 injektion Hmm
21:28 wannabe1987 hi in
21:28 wannabe1987 injektion*
21:29 injektion Hi wannabe1987 :)
21:29 wannabe1987 how are you?
21:30 injektion Good lol
21:30 wannabe1987 good
21:35 injektion I'm over the flu like symptoms from being over exposed to lithium hypochlorite
21:36 injektion Being in a sealed shut building for 12 hours with the dust of that stuff floating around
21:37 wannabe1987 good.  and that sucks
21:38 injektion It doesn't have a bad smell and it smells slightly pleasant >_<
21:38 Seroster Holy crap
21:38 injektion ?
21:39 Seroster You know all those conspiracies with "look, faces in the coca cola logo"
21:39 Seroster I found something far more fucked up
21:39 injektion I also like the smell of dry boric acid
21:39 Seroster The diameter of this can o coke is 66.6 mm.
21:39 KawaiiJess joined #thegeekgroup
21:39 Seroster DUN DUN DUUUUN!
21:39 wannabe1987 lol
21:39 Coderjoe last month, my meal from taco bell totalled $6.66
21:40 Seroster Yeah, but we knew taco bell were evil already
21:40 injektion nothing wrong with 666
21:41 Seroster I built a swingset where all the lenghts were dividable by 66.6mm.
21:41 Coderjoe yeah... we all know the mark of the beast is really 2.718281828459045.....
21:41 Seroster And angles were dividable by 66.6 too
21:44 Coderjoe one of my co-workers has this to add: http://www.suckatlife.com/pepsiLogoBlowatlife.html
21:44 BotSteve Title: Pepsi Logo Response - artwork by Lawrence Yang
21:44 Coderjoe (yeah, pepsi rather than coke...)
21:53 wannabe1987 anyone have netflix on their tv?
21:53 electricguy not me
21:53 injektion I have it on my iPad which is connected to my tv
21:54 wannabe1987 nvm i found it
21:54 wannabe1987 both grinch'es are only on DVD, not streaming....WHY?!
21:55 wannabe1987 i was gonna ask Coderjoe why he was at work on christmas, but its only friday :P
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22:08 wannabe1987 .c 8/4
22:08 BotSteve 2
22:08 wannabe1987 .c 18/4
22:08 BotSteve 4.5
22:14 Cprossu what in the world happened?
22:15 wannabe1987 with
22:16 Cprossu ^ trolling/heartbreak/whatever the heck was going on when I was eating pizza?
22:16 wannabe1987 read the log....idk
22:16 wannabe1987 we lost a member but whatev
22:17 Cprossu which member did we lose?
22:17 wannabe1987 dbshortwave
22:18 Cprossu =(
22:20 wannabe1987 masterofmonks: are we still playing tonight?
22:24 Cprossu did the log take a crap during whatever dwama was there or am I just blind?!
22:24 wannabe1987 ?
22:27 wannabe1987 its in the log....
22:27 wannabe1987 .log
22:27 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
22:28 wannabe1987 http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/2011-12-23#i_4870855  when sabrinaaaa joined today
22:28 Ponko wait what?
22:28 BotSteve Title: IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-23
22:28 Ponko i wasn't even aware of there presence
22:29 wannabe1987 whose?
22:29 masterofmonks wannabe1987: Toast is in Michigan.
22:29 wannabe1987 yes, i know....
22:29 wannabe1987 he texted me
22:29 wannabe1987 and i'm busy :/
22:29 wannabe1987 and he doesn't have internet he said
22:30 Cprossu all she said was "heyy(:"
22:30 * Cprossu is still confused (checks previous day)
22:30 wannabe1987 yeah, the previous day is where drama was, sry
22:32 Experimentonomen hm
22:32 Ponko Cprossu did they come back today?
22:33 Cprossu o_O So why is dbshortwave gone and why wasn't she just !kb'ed?
22:33 * Cprossu is still confused
22:34 masterofmonks She was kicked yesterday.
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22:35 Ponko but it said she was on today
22:35 ajprog_laptop because people are drama queens and hold gruges
22:35 masterofmonks She didn't come back until today, and she was behaved for the the few minutes she was here today.
22:36 masterofmonks However Lee was worried she would not, and responded as such, and I haven't got a fucking clue what crawled up db's ass.
22:36 wannabe1987 toast says he got to meet Omni, Mitch, Doug, Chris and Amy, and Moose
22:36 Cprossu woo
22:36 Cprossu masterofmonks this social/image stuff is beyond me
22:36 wannabe1987 db said all sabrinas are hot and then lee said that she's 14, and db said wait 4 years and lee called him a pedophile
22:36 Ponko yay go toast
22:37 CaptainNiobe lee said db is acting like a pedo... no idea if he was or not, but db's under other stresses atm as well, so...
22:37 Cprossu lee says a lot of dumb things (rolls eyes)
22:37 wannabe1987 yes, he does.
22:37 Ponko yeah indeed he does
22:37 injektion How old is lee?
22:37 Monkeh Fucking bastard ow
22:38 Ponko 14
22:38 injektion People under 16 should not be allowed to use IRC
22:38 Ponko lol
22:38 wannabe1987 then we wouldn't get toast either
22:38 wannabe1987 and freenode says age 13
22:38 Cprossu injektion normally I'd say yes.... but man I loved doing tech support online when I was 14 lol
22:38 Ponko toast is a top bloke
22:39 wannabe1987 and he's 13
22:39 injektion The fair way would be do it to the people that were involved in the drama
22:39 Ponko hmm
22:39 Gaxnys I'd say 16 is a good limit actually.
22:39 wannabe1987 i'd hate to take lee's only escape away from him....
22:40 injektion Exceptions could possibly be made but if you act immature out you go
22:40 Ponko yeah that's sort of unfair he acts accordingly most of the time though
22:43 CaptainNiobe so does that mean i get kicked when i get all playful? lol... some might see it as immaturity...
22:43 * injektion facedesks
22:43 masterofmonks And at this moment this conversation ends in the main channel, if you wnat to continue it take it to PM.
22:43 Ponko just being insulting and disrespectful including being immature
22:44 Ponko anyway moving on
22:44 wannabe1987 mom said take it to PM
22:44 NeWtoz THE CHIEFS?
22:44 NeWtoz :p
22:45 Ponko NeWtoz: hey i said it would happen didn't i
22:45 NeWtoz I'm just messing around
22:45 Ponko i know but i did say that
22:45 Ponko lol
22:45 Seroster (watching the gran torino) why is there a point in ALL eastwood movies where he snaps and kills evryone?
22:45 NeWtoz if we both win this weekend, we won't be playing for much next week
22:46 Ponko but going 15-1 i'd be happy with
22:46 NeWtoz yeah, that is a darn good record
22:46 NeWtoz the lions have surpassed my expectations
22:46 Ponko 84 49ers 85 Bears did it
22:47 NeWtoz it's been a good year for the NFC North
22:47 Ponko really?
22:47 NeWtoz well, for us maybe
22:47 Ponko looks over to MN
22:47 Ponko i wouldn't say that to them ;)
22:47 NeWtoz good year indeed ;P
22:49 Ponko i lol at thinking about how the Vikings had the chance to restore the NFLs pride and reputation but that was a BIG ask from such a pants team
22:50 Seroster They aint half the men to call themselves vikings.
22:51 Ponko yeah they're the OPPOSITE of actually vikings
22:52 masterofmonks Ok, this Photonicinduction video is awesome.
22:52 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N0PpWDWoj4
22:52 BotSteve Title: Banging Christmas Balls - YouTube
22:52 Ponko NeWtoz: 34 points in FOUR Super Bowl games for the vikes
22:52 NeWtoz well, Det has 0
22:52 Ponko yeah have you got to one?
22:52 NeWtoz no :(
22:52 Ponko so don't worry
22:53 Ponko if you score more than 14 you're instantly better than the 1975 vikes
22:53 Ponko no wait
22:53 Ponko 1977*
22:55 Ponko however DA BEARS have 46 and that was in one game
22:55 Ponko anyway
22:58 Ponko Green Bay 158 ;)
22:58 Ponko 4/5 in super bowls :P
22:59 NeWtoz I have too much milk in my cereal
22:59 Ponko sometimes that good thing
22:59 Ponko it gets soaked up
23:01 Ponko masterofmonks: that video is epic
23:02 electricguy bedtime! night night all and merry X-mas! =)
23:02 Ponko night :)
23:02 wannabe1987 night
23:02 NeWtoz I just got up less then a few hours ago..
23:03 wannabe1987 lol pour more cereal in when its done :D
23:03 NeWtoz Just did
23:03 Ponko wait NeWtoz where are you right now?
23:03 NeWtoz Raisin Bran, best cereal ever
23:03 wannabe1987 grand rapids :P
23:04 NeWtoz I'm home, and yes, it's 6pm
23:04 Ponko lazy f***ker
23:05 NeWtoz I'm not very lazy when it comes to that
23:06 Seroster So
23:06 Seroster Lemme see now
23:06 NeWtoz no pervert
23:06 Ponko mention sex who turns up?
23:07 Seroster Present for my brother, misc cpus and a dvdr/w for a laptop.  It's in a paper box, covered in duct tape, inside anotehr box, covered in duct tape, inside a paper bag (taped with clear tape) inside a paper bag inside a paper bag (duct taped) Inside a box(duct taped) And when I say duct taped it's 100% coverage.  Now.... Wrapping paper.
23:08 NeWtoz I remember those times
23:08 Seroster I think I need more duct tape.
23:09 NeWtoz well, if you got the fancy design looking duct tape, you could use that as wrapping paper
23:09 Seroster Actually it looks prett
23:09 Seroster y
23:10 Seroster Its not like I went apeshit and just spun it around. They are very nice aligned pieces of duct tape arranged so that the ends are hidden.
23:10 Seroster And... Using a knife is concidered cheating.
23:10 NeWtoz How about a gun?
23:10 Seroster I've never held a gun in my life.
23:11 Cprossu for anyone worrying about photonicinduction, he posted a new video up
23:11 Seroster Worrying?
23:11 Cprossu someone was (hoping??) he had been arrested the other day?
23:12 Seroster o?
23:12 Seroster for?
23:12 Seroster being a retard?
23:12 Cprossu oh god.
23:13 Cprossu he's got a ordament shute going to his capacitor
23:15 injektion Blah I'm going to bed too early tonight
23:15 Seroster Arrested for what, Cprossu ?
23:15 Cprossu he wasnt'
23:15 Seroster ASSUMED arrested for what, Cprossu?
23:15 Cprossu I don't know I wasn't the one assuming.
23:16 Cprossu (perhaps confusing a pilot with a giant green laser going out his window?!
23:16 Cprossu I don't know
23:18 * wannabe1987 has alcohol :)
23:18 NeWtoz first day off of work, and I'm wondering what to do
23:19 * Experimentonomen looks at wannabe1987
23:19 wannabe1987 lol
23:19 wannabe1987 what?
23:19 * Ponko goes to his fridge for a can of beer
23:19 * injektion is going to get some alcohol later tonight
23:19 * Experimentonomen empties out Ponko's fridge before he gets there :P
23:19 wannabe1987 mom offered wine, i said id like rhum instead
23:19 NeWtoz ALCOHOLICS!
23:19 injektion I like the taste >_<
23:20 wannabe1987 lol
23:20 wannabe1987 NeWtoz, like you don't drink
23:20 wannabe1987 and i drink about once a month :P
23:20 Experimentonomen i only drink beer, wine is nasty
23:20 NeWtoz I don't
23:20 injektion <3 wine
23:20 NeWtoz at all
23:20 wannabe1987 ah
23:20 wannabe1987 mom likes moscato, which is why i got her some for her birthday
23:21 Experimentonomen arent u too young to drink and buy that kinda stuff ?
23:21 Cprossu oh wow.
23:21 NeWtoz Math
23:21 * Cprossu might be a very happy person in a few minutes
23:22 wannabe1987 me?  i'm 24....
23:22 injektion My brother's GF doesn't drink or smoke
23:22 * Cprossu wonders if this will work
23:22 injektion She's a goody two shoes
23:22 wannabe1987 i don't and won't smoke
23:22 wannabe1987 i was a goody two shoes in hs :/
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23:23 NeWtoz I'm not a goody two shoes, I'm just more logical then the rest
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23:24 Cprossu_IRRSI s
23:24 NeWtoz t
23:24 Cprossu_IRRSI *wooo!
23:24 wannabe1987 hi
23:24 Cprossu_IRRSI I'm doing something very evil, running IRRSI in windows o_o
23:25 NeWtoz YOU MONSTER!
23:25 injektion If that's evil so is running irssi on OS X
23:25 * Ponko is drinking glass of frothing Lager
23:26 Cprossu_IRRSI now to see if I can make web irrsi work so I can link my kindle to it
23:27 wannabe1987 irrssi?
23:27 injektion It's a console IRC client
23:27 wannabe1987 console?
23:28 NeWtoz command line interface
23:28 injektion wannabe1987, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7a/Irssi.png
23:28 wannabe1987 that makes no sense, injektion
23:28 NeWtoz makes perfect sense!
23:29 Gaxnys irssi <3
23:29 * Ponko is gonna get rat arsed
23:29 wannabe1987 why Ponko?
23:29 Gaxnys irssi and screen is awesome. :>
23:29 wannabe1987 my throat hurts :/  why am i getting sick over christmas?!  :'(
23:29 Ponko because i can kelly because i can.
23:29 Cprossu_IRSSI lol
23:29 wannabe1987 sounds good
23:29 injektion I like irssi I just don't use it all the time
23:30 injektion I'm using an old old old build of X-Chat Aqua
23:31 Gaxnys injektion: Don't you have a Linux machine that's on 24/7? o:
23:32 injektion I'd rather use proprietary System V UNIX than Linux on a desktop
23:32 Gaxnys I wasn't talking about a desktop machine.
23:33 injektion The server I have runs FreeBSD
23:33 Gaxnys Nice. :)
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23:35 injektion I feel like posting my details on a Linux forum and how much I think the OSS community should STFU about how some hardware companies only offer binary blob drivers
23:36 injektion To see how much hate mail I get and to see if I get a crowd outside my house with pitchforks and torches
23:36 NeWtoz sounds like an amazing time
23:37 wannabe1987 .c 10.5*40
23:37 BotSteve 420
23:38 wannabe1987 .c 420*52
23:38 BotSteve 21 840
23:38 wannabe1987 damn...
23:38 wannabe1987 ok
23:38 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
23:38 BotSteve No problem, wannabe1987
23:38 Ponko hmm
23:38 Ponko .weather Kelso Scotland
23:38 BotSteve Scattered, 5℃, 1011mb, Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - EGNC 15:50Z
23:39 injektion I personally don't care one way or another when it comes to OSS to proprietary software
23:39 Ponko .weather Fairbanks
23:39 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 6.8℉ (-14℃), 29.22in (986mb), In the vicinity: Showers, Calm 0kt (↑) - PAFB, 01:55Z
23:39 Ponko i'd rather be there
23:39 NeWtoz build a really large slingshot
23:40 wannabe1987 .weather tgg
23:40 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 30.2℉ (-1℃), 30.21in (1020mb), Light breeze 6kt (↑) - KGRR 22:53Z
23:41 Ponko i need to aim for a LARGE pile of snow in order to survive NeWtoz
23:41 NeWtoz In Alaska, that shouldn't be a hard task
23:42 injektion .weather 30281
23:42 BotSteve Scattered, 50.0℉ (10℃), 30.21in (1020mb), Light breeze 6kt (↑) - KATL 22:52Z
23:42 wannabe1987 hey, it is below freezing :/
23:43 dr_jkl .
23:44 dr_jkl BotSteve: tell ynos i think he's cute1
23:44 BotSteve dr_jkl: I'll pass that on when ynos is around.
23:44 Seroster I can work with metal.
23:44 Seroster Or wood
23:44 Seroster Even plastic
23:44 Seroster ...
23:44 Seroster But wrapping paper is beyond me.
23:44 wannabe1987 lol
23:44 wannabe1987 i like wrapping paper
23:45 injektion Men cannot wrap christmas presents
23:45 injektion Unless your James May
23:45 NeWtoz I can
23:45 NeWtoz It's not really that hard
23:45 Seroster I never got square presents.
23:45 Gaxnys I can, almost. :(
23:45 masterofmonks What is so hard about wrapping christmas presents?
23:45 SparkyProjects I like the art of wrapping, i can do it quite well
23:45 Seroster And its ALWAYS SO FUCKING FLIMSY
23:45 dr_jkl who's at the lab right now
23:45 Seroster ... Rips to hell
23:46 wannabe1987 send gifts to me, i'll wrap and then ship them back to you! :P
23:46 Experimentonomen this whole presents thing is so silly, i dont see the point in it
23:46 wannabe1987 o?
23:46 NeWtoz it is kinda silly, BUT I LIKE IT
23:47 Seroster Just admit it, Experimentonomen, you are scarred since nobody gave YOU presents!
23:47 wannabe1987 awww did noone send you cookies?
23:47 Experimentonomen Seroster, in your dreams
23:47 dr_jkl anyone?
23:47 Seroster I dream of friends every day, Experimentonomen. It's futile.
23:47 * wannabe1987 wonders what would happen if she offered cookies to be shipped to tgg members if they paid shipping....
23:47 Seroster MR HYDE!
23:48 NeWtoz yeah, ship them to me
23:48 wannabe1987 dr_jkl: i don't think anyone is there now...earlier Omni, Mitch, Doug, Chris and Amy, and Moose were there
23:48 wannabe1987 NeWtoz, i can DRIVE them to you...
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23:48 NeWtoz I demand shipment
23:48 dr_jkl rrrr
23:48 Monkeh wannabe1987: Ship them to him via me.
23:48 wannabe1987 lol
23:48 dr_jkl i need someone to tel moosee to look at her internet-device
23:48 dr_jkl or someone to talk to chris
23:49 dr_jkl from my fingers to his brain
23:49 wannabe1987 i uh don't have any cookies right now ....
23:49 wannabe1987 my family ate them all
23:49 NeWtoz looks like we have a riot in the making
23:49 Monkeh dr_jkl: Oh, hey, you're involved with the website, right?
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23:50 wannabe1987 riot, what, no cookies?  probably
23:51 wannabe1987 momma called the dr and the dr said "NO MORE Monkeh's jumping on the bed!"
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23:53 dr_jkl Monkeh: I make the website go, yes. The e-mail too.
23:53 Monkeh wannabe1987: I imagine she'd get very fed up with me jumping on beds, seeing as I can break them just by standing on them. ;)
23:53 wannabe1987 lol
23:53 dr_jkl Monkeh: what's wrong? (:
23:53 Monkeh dr_jkl: Do you happen to know if Moose looked at the donation form again?
23:53 wannabe1987 we're doing wii JUST DANCE! for kids2 and thats my sisters fav song for it so far
23:54 dr_jkl I know she's done work on it recently yes.
23:54 dr_jkl Perfecting it is kind of an ongoing project.  Why?
23:54 * Monkeh looks at it again
23:54 Monkeh dr_jkl: Eh, just hadn't heard anything back after mentioning it on the forums.
23:54 dr_jkl also it depends on your operational defiition of 'recent'.
23:54 Monkeh dr_jkl: Last week or so?
23:55 dr_jkl I know she's worked on it in the last few w- yes, as a matter of  fact
23:55 Monkeh Make that two
23:55 Monkeh Still misbehaves though :{
23:56 dr_jkl If it doesnt' fix your specific issue, can you send me what you see (screengrab) and what exactly is wrong, as well as what pdf viewer you use and its version? jkl at thegeekgroup dot org.
23:56 dr_jkl I'll try to get the problem resolved for you.
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23:57 Seroster I hate bluray
23:57 Monkeh dr_jkl: I can tell you right now: entering a value in any cell updates the entire column. Using versions 9 or X of Acrobat Reader on either Linux or Windows.
23:57 dr_jkl Monkeh: it's xmas weekend so i'm going to do a fair bit of drinking. e-mail me so i remember, please? :)
23:57 Monkeh dr_jkl: If I remember. ;D
23:58 dr_jkl \o/
23:58 dr_jkl thank you. :D
23:58 dr_jkl and oh shit
23:58 dr_jkl next weekend is new years
23:58 Monkeh Trying not to cut things off or burn away important parts of my anatomy right now
23:58 dr_jkl i gotta change my voicemail
23:58 Monkeh dr_jkl: Yeah, it's going to be a rough week or two.
23:58 wannabe1987 lol
23:59 dr_jkl "thank you for calling $myname. .i will not be taking calls for the next few days; if your need is urgent please e-mai me.  i will begin responding to calls jan 2, 2012, where i will be happy to service my hangover as well as yours."
23:59 Monkeh haha

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