Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-25

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00:00 JA12 let's just say that I don't trust drunk people
00:00 wannabe1987 PM
00:00 wannabe1987 :/  drunk people are the worset
00:00 wannabe1987 worst*
00:01 JA12 mom is sleeping, sober but her fellow here is wasted
00:01 wannabe1987 are you safe?
00:01 JA12 of course
00:01 wannabe1987 thats good
00:02 JA12 he's not trying to shoot me or my mom, not even violent like stepdad before him
00:02 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: .. Fuck BT. Fuck them very much.
00:02 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: They've pushed my VDSL back until next year again.
00:03 wannabe1987 glad he's not trying to hurt anyone....why don't you trust him then?
00:04 JA12 instinct
00:04 wannabe1987 makes sense, if the guy before him was violent
00:05 injektion courvoisier rose
00:05 roadran422|Away vack!
00:05 roadran422|Away Sorry JA12, christmas should be the best time of the year!
00:06 wannabe1987 you can do /nick <nick> to change
00:06 roadran422 thanks wannabe1
00:06 JA12 roadran422|Away: thanks
00:06 roadran422 As long as you are safe from any harm/danger then its good. What did you get for christmas?
00:07 roadran422 Cprossu? Percentage? 90? or 99.999%?
00:08 wannabe1987 were you born april 22?
00:08 roadran422 Me?
00:08 wannabe1987 yes
00:08 roadran422 No why?
00:08 wannabe1987 the 422 on the end of your nick
00:08 roadran422 Oh Idk where that came from xD
00:08 wannabe1987 lol
00:09 roadran422 It started as roadrrunner322, then it changed to roadran322, then due to so much spam I needed another fb email, it went to roadran422
00:09 sndwrx Have yourself, a merry little Christmas...
00:09 sndwrx Let your heart be light
00:09 roadran422 ^Ditto
00:09 JA12 roadran422, I got some money and a nice meal :D
00:09 sndwrx From now on, our troubles will be out of sight!
00:09 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
00:10 wannabe1987 money and nice meal is good.
00:10 roadran422 That's nice JA12~ :)
00:10 sndwrx Christmas evenin', everyone.
00:10 * wannabe1987 likes the internet....she doesn't have to use her voice to talk :D
00:10 injektion I could either A) Drink B) Re-configure IRIX on the Octane
00:10 wannabe1987 or C)  Both!
00:10 sndwrx I vote for option b.
00:11 roadran422 Hahaha! Like chris would say, geeks are mostly anti-social, he also said most of them are men... (Wannabe1987)
00:11 injektion I don't drink and do UNIX because it never works out too well
00:11 roadran422 lol
00:11 wannabe1987 yes, i know.  but i have a sore throat and it hurts to talk, so talking is bad.
00:11 wannabe1987 ahhh ok
00:11 wannabe1987 i don't know what unix is....
00:11 injektion It's an operating system
00:11 roadran422 True true. Hahaha, unix and drinks = keyboard half across the room. (Guessing unix is very hard to code)
00:12 wannabe1987 i know that much...theres a unix lab at the college
00:12 JA12 roadran422, wannabe1987, yeah money is ok, I gave (big) monetary help to my mom when she was divorsing my stepdad so that was kind of partial paypack...
00:12 sndwrx I should be playing linux tonight, but I really don't feel like it.
00:12 wannabe1987 ahhh
00:12 roadran422 Hahaha :)
00:12 sndwrx I have other things I need to do also.
00:13 injektion roadran422, It's not that it's the fact that if I was to screw up IRIX I wouldn't have a way to re-install it because I fail at net booting and I lack an external SCSI CD-ROM drive
00:13 wannabe1987 we were gonna go out to eat tonight, but nothings open
00:13 roadran422 I don't know anthing about unix... Lol
00:13 roadran422 I find it sad that people work on christmas day
00:13 injektion This is my own personal hell http://goput.it/px9.png
00:13 wannabe1987 my mom works tonight (at the hospital)
00:14 roadran422 It's sad, they can't be with family :(
00:14 wannabe1987 we had christmas yesterday
00:14 Noise_Marine o.O damn sucks to be in your positon injektion
00:14 wannabe1987 and we will have it monday, and thursday
00:14 roadran422 Oh :(
00:14 roadran422 Injekton, that looks like windows 98!
00:14 roadran422 xd
00:14 injektion Noise_Marine, It's not that bad :P
00:15 wannabe1987 i'm supposed to sing tomorrow....guess that won't be happening :/
00:15 wannabe1987 :'(
00:16 roadran422 That's no fun. :'(
00:16 sndwrx Lions won tonight.
00:16 sndwrx whee
00:16 wannabe1987 they did?
00:16 wannabe1987 win!
00:17 sndwrx Yeah, beat San Diego by 28.
00:17 roadran422 I don't watch sport nor do I care for them except for Basketbal... So what game is this xD
00:17 wannabe1987 this means the lios will be in the playoffs
00:17 wannabe1987 lions*
00:17 sndwrx yep
00:17 roadran422 ...xD
00:18 sndwrx Makes me a little angry when a company doesn't know accurate jargon for their own products.
00:18 sndwrx "Output maximum resolution of 1280x1024 @ 60MHz."
00:18 roadran422 Lol
00:19 roadran422 Idk what's wrong with that...
00:19 JA12 MHz
00:19 sndwrx Seriously, how old do you have to be to start wiping your own ass?
00:19 roadran422 I was thinking of that xd
00:19 roadran422 *xD
00:19 JA12 someone passed out.. :D
00:20 roadran422 I'm not smart into specifiss!
00:20 JA12 alcohol and pills work
00:21 Seroster Nice
00:21 Seroster I got 4700watts of resistive ballast.
00:21 Seroster That's.... Twice what my fuses can handle =)
00:21 roadran422 Cprossu? Done yet?
00:24 roadran422 I am not smart in any of the fields. A bit computer savy, but I am more than interested in many things!
00:26 Noise_Marine i hate being the computer tech of the family :| it means they all come to me :|
00:26 wannabe1987 lol they all come to me too and i'm not a computer tech
00:26 roadran422 I can fix most things on computers. Funny thing is that I fix basic viruses, but I never get any!
00:26 roadran422 I want to learn to fight viruses! Hahaha
00:27 roadran422 The proffesional way.
00:27 Noise_Marine lol some of the customers come in with the weirdest virus and I try to react it on  my pc for some reason i cant get them XD
00:27 roadran422 Lol
00:27 Cprossu roadran422: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=hed9BGdu6qM
00:27 BotSteve Title: Response to heatsink challenge - YouTube
00:27 roadran422 thanks Cprossu xD
00:28 roadran422 Lol
00:28 * wannabe1987 watches
00:28 roadran422 Lol me too
00:28 JA12 I was frustrated to be that guy who mom and my brother called when their computers didn't work or they didn't know what to do ("what update is this", antivirus licence expired, "blue screen", "it doesn't start")...
00:28 roadran422 Lol
00:28 wannabe1987 frustrated?  why?
00:29 wannabe1987 what the eff is this, Cprossu?!
00:29 roadran422 lol I'm asking my self to lol
00:29 wannabe1987 win!
00:29 Seroster http://www.wimp.com/floppydisk/
00:29 BotSteve Title: Star Wars floppy disk. [VIDEO]
00:29 Cprossu garry's mod lol.
00:29 wannabe1987 501 heatsinks
00:29 wannabe1987 what is garry's mod?
00:29 JA12 same sort of problems we had in work and it's not even my job to keep computers and servers running (I'm dev)
00:29 wannabe1987 ahhh
00:29 roadran422 xD cprossu that's nice xD
00:30 injektion I don't fix my family's computers now I tell them to buy a mac instead
00:30 wannabe1987 win.  i "like'd" it as well
00:30 roadran422 Lol, Mac's can crash!
00:30 JA12 so once when the windows on my moms computer got so slow it was unusable, I installed ubuntu on it and cleared windows to factory defaults
00:30 wannabe1987 my dad has a mac and brags to us about how he never has to reboot
00:30 roadran422 Nice video cprossu xD
00:30 Noise_Marine Cprossu, its taunting you to buy a better server :P
00:31 Cprossu it also hasn't been restarted in a long time
00:31 Cprossu there's a lot of props in the map right now
00:31 JA12 my mom and brother haven't used windows since
00:31 roadran422 Hahaha, what game is this?!?!
00:31 injektion I know macs can crash and mine crashes when I use beta versions of OS X
00:31 roadran422 Hahahaha
00:31 Cprossu "Garry's Mod".
00:31 JA12 and 1 phone call, in 2 years
00:31 roadran422 Hmm lol
00:31 injektion Because Lion's beta had a buggy NTFS driver
00:31 roadran422 I am no debugger either xD
00:32 roadran422 "Oh my Heavan's" XD
00:32 roadran422 You sound like you are 17-20? xD
00:32 Cprossu wannabe1987 to that you know what my answer is
00:32 Cprossu nope roadran422, going on 26.
00:32 roadran422 -_-
00:33 Cprossu (Uptime) 10wks 9hrs 23mins 4secs
00:33 wannabe1987 answer to what?
00:33 wannabe1987 i'm so lost :/
00:33 Cprossu not rebooting
00:33 wannabe1987 o lol
00:33 roadran422 Wait, cprossu
00:33 Cprossu and my old gmod server is still going
00:33 wannabe1987 rebooting is good for your computer damnit
00:33 roadran422 I think I know what the problem is.
00:33 Cprossu problem is that there are 501 heatsinks colliding with eachother roadran422.
00:33 roadran422 Your upload was going crazy, because of your server!
00:34 Cprossu nah.
00:34 wannabe1987 my dad thinks he's smart when it comes to computers?
00:34 wannabe1987 lol
00:34 Noise_Marine my longest uptime is almost 30 weeks but then windows had 300 updates.....
00:34 roadran422 Lol
00:34 roadran422 xD hahahaha
00:35 roadran422 Anyone know how to learn to kill malware?
00:36 CaptainNiobe morning, all :D
00:36 roadran422 Morning? Chris?
00:36 Cprossu nope
00:36 Cprossu btw Noise_Marine: http://oi40.tinypic.com/5d9uo9.jpg
00:36 CaptainNiobe no, rachael from australia
00:36 roadran422 Oh.. xD
00:36 Cprossu Windows XP SP1.
00:36 roadran422 Well Morning
00:36 CaptainNiobe :D
00:37 roadran422 Only Captain I know is Captain Boden... Lol
00:37 wannabe1987 rach - who are you dating?!
00:37 CaptainNiobe wannabe1987... IT HAPPENED AGAIN! :P
00:37 wannabe1987 LOL
00:37 roadran422 ...
00:37 Noise_Marine damn thats nice Cprossu lol
00:37 roadran422 Girl talk. Totaly Lost.
00:37 Noise_Marine what pc is that?
00:37 roadran422 Cprossu, what would happen if you had a "accidental" power outage?
00:38 Cprossu then the battery of that computer would kick in
00:38 Noise_Marine ^^
00:38 Cprossu and last for 2 1/2 hours
00:38 roadran422 If the battery accidently "failed"
00:38 CaptainNiobe roadran422, it's a standing joke, actually, i got mistaken for chris god knows how many times... :D
00:38 roadran422 Hahaha xD
00:38 Cprossu roadran422: if it failed while the unit is powered up I can swap it
00:38 Cprossu it blinks orange and I have 3 batteries for it
00:38 Cprossu (it's a laptop hahaha)
00:38 roadran422 Cprossu: -_-
00:38 roadran422 What if a hammer "accidently" fell on it and crushed the computer?
00:38 Noise_Marine Cprossu, laptop really now that is really nice
00:39 Cprossu it would still probably be ok.
00:39 Cprossu it's a touch laptop
00:39 Cprossu and I have realvnc on it
00:39 Cprossu so if the screen cracks it's no big deal
00:39 Noise_Marine how old is the laptop ?
00:39 Cprossu old.
00:39 Cprossu Emachines M6805 (don't laugh)
00:39 Cprossu it's been screwed with along the way though
00:40 Noise_Marine that is old damn man
00:40 roadran422 I am getting tired of this. What if it "Accidently" went in to the toiler then I drop some 99.9 Sulfiric Acid in to the toilet?
00:40 Cprossu it was damn good for the time too Noise_Marine
00:40 Cprossu the specs you got in it for $650 were killer
00:40 roadran422 *toilet and 99.9%
00:40 Noise_Marine i remember that series Cprossu emachine buit them solid back then
00:40 Cprossu and it was produced by arima systems not emachines
00:41 Cprossu btw it's running a a64 3700+ now though hehe
00:41 roadran422 ...
00:41 Cprossu (a64m 3700)
00:41 roadran422 Shrek :)
00:41 Cprossu and a outdated seagate momentus 60gb 7200.1
00:41 Cprossu which still isn't dead
00:41 roadran422 Dang. SCSI or IDE or Sata?
00:42 Cprossu it was my main gmod server for years. it's ide 2.5
00:42 roadran422 Never seen a 2.5 Ide before...
00:42 roadran422 3.5 Ide yes not 2.5...
00:42 Cprossu http://bixnet.net/images/NBHD-IDE-Connector.jpg
00:42 Cprossu ^ they look like this
00:43 roadran422 Oh cool! Hahaha. Were's molex?
00:43 Cprossu the power is through the pins
00:43 Cprossu http://www.addonics.com/faq/images/1825_ms_jumpers.gif
00:43 Cprossu ^ notice this with an adapter on it for a desktop
00:43 roadran422 I've never ever seen that in my life before.
00:43 roadran422 That's cool! hahaha
00:44 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
00:44 lwq1996 hi
00:44 BotSteve lwq1996: I have the following messages for you:
00:44 lwq1996 wannabe
00:44 BotSteve At 24 Dec 20:46Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell lwq1996 that i slept for 13.5 hours cuz i was sick.  and i coulda slept for longer if my dad didn't call
00:44 Noise_Marine oh how I used to love IDE till my board phased them out along with floppy XD
00:44 wannabe1987 LEE :D
00:44 wannabe1987 hi dear :D
00:44 lwq1996 i got the cookies
00:44 wannabe1987 i know....i saw on facebook
00:44 roadran422 Hi lwq1996
00:44 lwq1996 :P
00:44 wannabe1987 misty complained :P
00:44 lwq1996 lol
00:44 wannabe1987 i pretty much told her to shut up
00:44 lwq1996 hi roadrun
00:44 masterofmonks lwq1996: Are they good enough to buy mail order?
00:45 Noise_Marine cookies >.>
00:45 Cprossu Kinda surprising you haven't had to work with them though roadran422.
00:45 lwq1996 yes they are
00:45 wannabe1987 :D
00:45 roadran422 I've worked on 3.5 hardrives lol. I haven't owened a old old laptop before
00:45 roadran422 I've worked on 3.5 ide and scsi, and a 2.5 sata and 3.5 sata...
00:45 Cprossu oh come on they aren't that old lol
00:45 roadran422 And usb 3.0
00:46 Cprossu get old enough on laptops and you find other horrifying things
00:46 roadran422 Lol the first laptop I ever had in my life was 2006? It was a Hop dv2910us
00:46 Noise_Marine they phased out 5 years ago didnt they
00:46 roadran422 *HP
00:46 Cprossu like my mac portable has a 3.5" scsi drive in it
00:46 roadran422 xD hahaha
00:46 Cprossu (soldered ribbon on it though)
00:46 roadran422 Just saying I'm 14 and born in 1997 so ya hahaha
00:46 Cprossu Sata drives in laptops weren't the norm until after 2004 or so
00:47 roadran422 Yah. I'm not that old...
00:47 Cprossu so you'd have been like 7 at that time lol
00:47 Cprossu granted I was weird
00:47 Cprossu I built my first computer at age 9
00:47 roadran422 Lol, I didn't have a laptop back then...
00:47 roadran422 I remember when my brother shorted out the first computer by shoving a floppy disk in to it.
00:47 Cprossu and got my A+ at age 13
00:47 Noise_Marine Cprossu same about
00:47 wannabe1987 i'm hungr
00:47 wannabe1987 y
00:47 wannabe1987 someone feed me damnit
00:48 roadran422 I'm not in to building things like that I am in to meessing with it! lol
00:48 Cprossu now the first computer I owned I paid my own money for heh
00:48 Cprossu you're gonna laugh at this roadran422
00:48 injektion I don't want to say it
00:48 injektion err
00:48 roadran422 Lol, what cprossu? xD
00:48 Cprossu I was 7 at the time and for $42
00:48 wannabe1987 say what, injektion?
00:48 * lwq1996 makes wannabe microwave pizza
00:48 Cprossu I bought myself a IBM PC 5150
00:48 alaa_ joined #thegeekgroup
00:48 wannabe1987 thanks!  i'm actually gonna go microwave tilapia :D
00:48 wannabe1987 yay fish!
00:48 Cprossu (yay computer swap meet!)
00:48 wannabe1987 hi alaa_
00:48 roadran422 42$ for a machine now is a broken one from the junk yard xD,
00:49 Cprossu it had 2 5 1/4 360k floppy drives, a green monitor, and a copy of dos 3.3
00:49 injektion I don't want to say it quite yet but isn't building your own computer pointless now when PC hardware is such a disposable commodity?
00:49 roadran422 Dang lol
00:49 roadran422 Considering you are 24 that's long ago!
00:49 roadran422 Have you ever used a zip drive?
00:49 wannabe1987 wait, Cprossu is my age?
00:49 Cprossu by the time I was done it had a Seagate 42mb st-251 MFM hard drive, a CGA monitor, dos 6.20,
00:49 roadran422 Idk... 22-24 lol
00:49 Cprossu again I am going on 26
00:49 roadran422 Lol
00:49 roadran422 Sorry cprossu xD
00:50 Cprossu (which means my birthday is 'soon')
00:50 wannabe1987 i thought you were older :P
00:50 wannabe1987 mines in march
00:50 roadran422 Happy Birthday early!
00:50 Cprossu mine is before the year ends
00:50 Noise_Marine mines in 5 days XD
00:51 wannabe1987 so is lee's....
00:51 wannabe1987 hence why i sent him cookies
00:51 wannabe1987 lwq1996: did they arrive intact?
00:51 Cprossu maybe my unkept unix beard which tweaks chris and forces him to cross his eyes every time he walked passed me makes me look older @ wannabe1987
00:51 roadran422 Nice! Hahaha
00:52 injektion I kind of stopped tinkering with PC hardware after 2006 because everything is so cheap now and it's sometimes not to worth it to fix a problem
00:52 wannabe1987 lol i've met you....
00:52 wannabe1987 you're shorter than i am....
00:52 roadran422 Have you ever used zip drives? ~4-5 mb?
00:52 wannabe1987 and you're older if you're 25....
00:52 injektion x86 and ARM is disposable
00:52 roadran422 I'm 5" 9'
00:52 sndwrx "Cheap" is a relative term.
00:52 Cprossu roadran422: my zip drives were 100mb or more
00:52 roadran422 -_-
00:52 Cprossu I had a killer scsi zip drive
00:52 roadran422 I am way off.
00:52 Cprossu click was 40mb wasn't it towards the end?
00:53 Cprossu man those sucked
00:53 injektion I've used a ZIP drive and I've used a SyQuest drive
00:53 roadran422 Idk hardware...
00:53 Seroster Its 2am and I'm getting all deep n shit.
00:53 Cprossu we have a dubner 20-k that uses the earlier bernouli disks
00:53 sndwrx SuperDisk FTW
00:53 * sndwrx snickers.
00:53 Seroster Is it still called a greenscreen even if it's blue?
00:53 roadran422 In EST it's 7:53
00:53 * wannabe1987 is so lost by this convo :/
00:53 Cprossu superdisk drives rocked
00:53 wannabe1987 damn cough
00:53 Cprossu at reading floppy disks
00:53 Cprossu nice voice coil acutated heads
00:53 roadran422 Lol
00:53 roadran422 I am almost lost... xD
00:53 Cprossu *actuated
00:53 roadran422 Today I relized I am no geek.
00:53 sndwrx Can't remember if they were 100MB or 120MB.
00:54 roadran422 I'm just interset in so many things lol
00:54 Cprossu sure you are
00:54 wannabe1987 roadran422: i'm a kitchen geek.
00:54 roadran422 Hahaha
00:54 wannabe1987 and a musician.  i do fit in (somewhere)
00:54 roadran422 Who plays clarinet!
00:54 wannabe1987 i play violin....
00:54 roadran422 I play it but so-so at it
00:54 wannabe1987 toast might :P
00:54 roadran422 I like the clarinet. It's fun!
00:54 Cprossu I am into Automotive, Welding, Computing, Physics, Audio Visual, Electronics, and Kludging
00:54 sndwrx kludging hahah
00:55 Cprossu ^ I suppose you could get more diverse somehow
00:55 wannabe1987 kudging?
00:55 wannabe1987 kludging*
00:55 injektion I hate kludges
00:55 roadran422 I am in to most of your things, except for kludging, welding, and audio visual
00:55 injektion So much
00:55 roadran422 .g kludging
00:55 BotSteve roadran422: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kludge
00:55 Cprossu ^ the act of just making something that shouldn't work, work despite the consequences
00:55 wannabe1987 o i think i saw that on failblog
00:55 wannabe1987 lol
00:55 roadran422 Lol, I might be in that. Cprossu, out of curiosity how many rolls of duct tape do you have?
00:56 roadran422 Heck tape in general lol
00:56 roadran422 .wiki kludging
00:56 BotSteve "A kludge (or kluge) is a workaround, a quick-and-dirty solution, a clumsy or inelegant, yet effective, solution to a problem, typically using parts that are cobbled together." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kludge
00:56 Cprossu I have 7 types of ducK tape and only one kind of ducT tape
00:56 roadran422 What's the difference? -_-
00:56 Cprossu the difference is one can handle temperture gradients and doesn't have cloth embedded in it
00:56 sndwrx Duck tape is a brand of duct tape.
00:56 Cprossu no sndwrx
00:56 roadran422 I ij
00:57 roadran422 *o ok
00:57 Cprossu duck tape was originally used on duck boats
00:57 roadran422 Ex of Kludjing, Fitting a square in to a circle
00:57 injektion I call it gaffer tape :P
00:57 Cprossu so it's waterproof
00:57 sndwrx Right, but to the layman it's known as duct tape.
00:57 Cprossu .w duck boats
00:57 BotSteve "The DUKW (colloquially known as duck) is a six-wheel-drive amphibious truck that was designed by a partnership under military auspices of Sparkman & Stephens and General Motors Corporation (GMC) during World War II for transporting goods and troops over land and water [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DUKW
00:57 Cprossu ^ but duck tape used on ducts makes messes
00:57 sndwrx It makes messes in most uses.
00:57 sndwrx So do people tailgating in foul weather.
00:58 sndwrx They still do it.
00:58 Cprossu either way proper terminology is duck tape.
00:58 injektion If your talking about the foil tape used on ducts than that is called smack tape
00:58 sndwrx So again, generally speaking, people know it as duct tape.
00:58 Cprossu as ducT tape is like the foil tape.
00:58 Cprossu haha
00:58 sndwrx I'm not arguing symantics here for something that I'm already familiar with.  :P
00:58 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA5MtAmT24g&amp;feature=related epic win just epic win
00:58 BotSteve Title: Electric Avenue - Eddy Grant (HQ Audio) - YouTube
00:58 Cprossu smack tape == duct tape, /= duck tape.
00:58 Cprossu ^ is all I am saying
00:59 sndwrx ...
00:59 injektion Have you ever heard the foil tape called smack tape?
00:59 st1y joined #thegeekgroup
00:59 Cprossu no injektion honestly
00:59 st1y howdy all
00:59 Ponko hey :)
00:59 injektion My dad calls it that o.O
00:59 Cprossu again roadran422 it's not that you aren't a geek, it's just that you've landed into a rather unusual concentration of geeks.
01:00 Cprossu it doesn't take away any of your geekiness :D
01:00 Cprossu (rather it adds to it quite a lot)
01:00 sndwrx Unusual being the operative word, and I don't mean in conjunction with "concentration".
01:00 * sndwrx smirks.
01:00 Cprossu ok composition
01:00 st1y i logged into chat for the first time just to ask a quick question... is it just me or is the glass of the door on camera 6 broken on the justin TV stream?
01:00 Cprossu =P
01:01 roadran422 Back all
01:01 Cprossu st1y: probably. we have many broken doors.
01:01 roadran422 Cprossu: True True xD
01:01 st1y no i mean busted to shit recently, like a punk kid just smashed it
01:01 Cprossu like broken broken?
01:01 st1y yes
01:02 Cprossu *hops on the stream, hops on the stream computer*
01:02 st1y camera 6
01:02 st1y bottom right
01:02 injektion I'd like to create electrified glas
01:02 injektion s
01:02 st1y either a busted pane of glass or a very odd reflection
01:02 roadran422 I have views different from many of my fellow friends that I barely know in school, that and I am a Secular Humanist
01:02 wannabe1987 .stream
01:02 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://justin.tv/thegeekgroup
01:02 roadran422 Or a person who believes in science.
01:02 Cprossu st1y I can modify the gain
01:02 Cprossu hang on
01:03 st1y so am i nuts or does that look goofy
01:03 wannabe1987 Cprossu: isn't door 6 the handicapped door?
01:03 wannabe1987 or by the handicap lot?
01:03 roadran422 ...
01:03 roadran422 ..derp..
01:04 wannabe1987 thats always looked smashed, like theres lines through it....
01:04 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldyx3KHOFXw&amp;feature=related
01:04 BotSteve Title: Gary Numan - Cars - YouTube
01:04 SparkyProjects wannabe, it's a door out the back (soth side), leads to the backk of the committee room
01:04 st1y see what i'm talking about... from the push bar up and to the left
01:04 wannabe1987 oooo
01:04 wannabe1987 yeah, that doesn't normally look like that...i was just there monday
01:05 wannabe1987 and went out that door
01:05 Cprossu hrmmm
01:05 roadran422 Wanabe197, if you truly play any instrument. You should get this. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151036885685591&amp;set=a.10150621629055591.680622.844690590&amp;type=1&amp;ref=nf
01:05 BotSteve Title: Christopher Humby's Photos | Facebook
01:05 st1y not to freak anyone out... i just thought that was odd
01:05 roadran422 What is the picture?
01:05 st1y hadn't noticed that before
01:05 sndwrx injektion: Electrified glass?
01:05 wannabe1987 i love that photo, btw....stop!  you're under arrest!
01:05 Cprossu that is tempered glass though
01:05 SparkyProjects That 'mark' is a bollard outside with a shadow
01:05 roadran422 Hahahaha
01:06 Cprossu yeah I don't think anyone broke in
01:06 injektion sndwrx, It's glass that if someone hits hit with a metal object and breaks it they get a nice electrical shock ^_^
01:06 Cprossu at least I don't see it
01:06 sndwrx nice
01:06 Cprossu if that glass had been hit by something it would have shattered all the way I'd have thought
01:06 roadran422 Why not a wooden broom stick?
01:06 roadran422 Or a gun?
01:06 Cprossu car down the allwy though
01:07 st1y if it's tempered glass then yeah, it wouldn't break like that... but if it's just sheet glass, that looks like it's busted
01:07 injektion Anything will conduct voltage if the voltage used is high enough
01:07 Cprossu well there's one way to find out st1y
01:07 Cprossu hang on.
01:07 injektion Like a fiberglass ladder
01:07 roadran422 Ok ok I have a hard question!
01:07 wannabe1987 oh noes!
01:07 wannabe1987 not the hard ones!
01:07 Cprossu I've just cut the feed st1y and the video archive will show up in a moment
01:08 st1y nice
01:08 roadran422 Cprossu? You are in arizona?
01:08 wannabe1987 yes
01:08 wannabe1987 he has access to it tho
01:08 Cprossu yep
01:08 roadran422 How are you controlling it.. xD
01:08 wannabe1987 because afaik he built it
01:08 wannabe1987 with MAGIC!
01:08 Cprossu I built master control roadran422!
01:08 roadran422 Oh true! Cprossu mind giving me acces ;)
01:09 Cprossu nope
01:09 Cprossu not gonna get it
01:09 roadran422 xD ik it!
01:09 sndwrx Cprossu: Do you know if yNos still needs a four port serial card?
01:09 sndwrx Also, that's a shadow outside.
01:09 Cprossu well me an Monkeh picked one out
01:09 Cprossu and got it there
01:09 roadran422 brb let me find the question!
01:09 sndwrx Alright.
01:09 sndwrx Found one today for $5.
01:10 wannabe1987 thats a strange shadow
01:10 sndwrx Looks like someone did a shite job of peeling off window film.
01:10 Cprossu the shadow is one of the concrete parking blocade things
01:10 Seroster injektion, anything will conduct if the voltage is high enough?
01:10 Cprossu http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup/b/303472231
01:10 Seroster Go get some sulphur mate =)
01:10 BotSteve Title: Justin.tv - The Geek Group - The Geek Group Live!
01:11 roadran422 Is this amount of electricity enough to kill you?
01:11 roadran422 Pretend you had access to this amount of energy.
01:11 roadran422
01:11 roadran422 1. 5 million volts at 1 nanoamp.
01:11 roadran422
01:11 roadran422 2. 5 million volts at 5 million gigaamperes.
01:11 Cprossu ^ link to video archive
01:11 st1y it's just hard to tell what it is, but like i said... if that door has sheet/plate glass then it could be a chunk missing
01:11 Seroster No
01:11 roadran422 Question: Is this amount of electricity enough to kill you? Pretend you had access to this amount of energy.  1. 5 million volts at 1 nanoamp. 2. 5 million volts at 5 million gigaamperes.
01:11 Seroster 1.4^10*6v is fine, nanoamp? still fine.
01:11 Seroster At that voltage the second you exceed 30milliampere you are Fucked with a capital F
01:11 roadran422 xD
01:12 roadran422 Anyone else care to answer? xD
01:12 Seroster You will most likely be doomed far before that, depending on the type of current
01:12 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Tickle a bit, though.
01:12 roadran422 Lol
01:12 Seroster Frequency? duration?
01:12 roadran422 Well 1minute?
01:12 roadran422 This is what Paul Kidwell said "that's a complex question and the way your asking doesn't really work.  The resistance from your left hand to your right hand is about 250k  ohms. Putting 25K volts from one hand to another would have .1A pass  through your chest, which is enough to kill you. Putting 25K volts from  your right thumb to your right little finger might blow your hand off,  but it won't kill you outright from the s
01:12 Seroster You can take 1.5MV at 5TA for a billionth of a second, you'll be fine.
01:13 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Possibly.
01:13 Seroster ANY current at over 100kv will be fucking you up if you are connected for a minute
01:13 roadran422 xD
01:13 Seroster Even if it is in the nanoamp range it will still cause skin burns
01:13 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Or the one in a million chance of it stopping your heart dead will strike you down.
01:13 roadran422 Lol
01:13 Seroster Pessimist, monkeh =P
01:13 Monkeh|Lap Does not take much current to do that.
01:13 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Son of a cardiac technician. :P
01:14 Seroster Mate... The risk of your bookshelf falling on you killing you instantly is bigger thanone in a million =P
01:14 Monkeh|Lap I know, but it doesn't pay to take extra risks ;)
01:14 roadran422 I am no electrician nor any electrical geek. Idk the difference between voltage and amps. Voltage = How much power there is, Amp = Amount of UMPF to that...
01:14 roadran422 Lol
01:14 Seroster Nah
01:14 Seroster Erm
01:14 Seroster Sec.
01:14 Monkeh|Lap Frankly I'm probably going to kill myself with a screwdriver of all things, but..
01:14 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z25JQ2ag4cY
01:15 BotSteve Title: Volts and Amps In a Minute - YouTube
01:15 roadran422 Thanks xD
01:15 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Oh, man, don't people go to school these days?
01:15 Seroster Shutup
01:15 Seroster People don't learn shit in school.
01:15 roadran422 :P
01:15 sndwrx Right on.
01:15 sndwrx Damn the man!
01:15 sndwrx Down with the system!
01:15 Seroster Well, you Do learn a lot of shit. But not volts n amps.
01:15 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: I learnt some things. Mostly I learnt how to learn.
01:16 CaptainNiobe Seroster, look who's talking, mr.-at-the-top-of-all-his-classes! :P
01:16 wannabe1987 are glass pie plates microwave safe?
01:16 Seroster YEAH, I am. Because I learned outside of school.
01:16 sndwrx Yeah, you learn interpersonal politics at best, and that's about it.
01:16 Seroster Yes they are wannabe
01:16 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Glass is generally microwave safe, yes.
01:16 roadran422 Amp = Frequency, Voltage = Wavelength? Now what is watts?
01:16 Seroster .....Nope
01:16 Seroster Imagine a hose.
01:16 Seroster Amps = diameter of hose
01:16 roadran422 Ok.
01:16 Seroster Volts = pressure in the hose
01:16 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwPyNOhXFd0
01:16 BotSteve Title: No Heaven - YouTube
01:16 wannabe1987 sweet.  i don't have fry pans and what not for the stove, so i have to cook in the microwave
01:17 Seroster A billion PSI in a hose with a billionth of an inch diameter can cut pretty much anything
01:17 roadran422 Ok I get it.
01:17 Seroster But it will be worthless to fill a pool with it
01:17 roadran422 Lol
01:17 sndwrx There are entire libraries of cookbooks devoted to cooking with a microwave.
01:17 Seroster A 5foot diameter pipe with half a psi will fill the pool in a few seconds
01:17 roadran422 That hose is blown.
01:17 Cprossu *DISCLAIMER! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DIE* best way to learn about hv is to get bit by a nst, you'll never want that to happen again. *DISCLAIMER! I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU DIE*
01:17 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrPaEUjtYvQ&amp;ob=av3e *dances*
01:17 BotSteve Title: Scooter - Jumping All Over The World (Official Video HQ) - YouTube
01:17 roadran422 true hahahaha
01:17 Seroster Bad idea cprossu
01:17 roadran422 xD
01:18 Cprossu it's a terrible idea Seroster
01:18 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Best way to learn about HV is to have a bad experience with LV and decide you don't want to know any more.
01:18 Cprossu but it beats getting bit by a MOT.
01:18 Seroster And... If you are asking about what volts and amps are you might wait a bit for hv.
01:18 LemLap Seroster, including the hose trying to constrain a billion psi
01:18 roadran422 I've been bit few times...
01:18 LemLap it'd rip open the hose
01:18 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: How old are you?
01:18 Seroster Screw that lemlap, keep it hypothetical
01:18 roadran422 14 :)
01:18 Seroster Right.
01:18 Cprossu I've been bit by a fully charged disposible camera cap and a old charged up evil CRT on a shelf.
01:18 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: .. Okay, slow down and stop getting bit.
01:18 Monkeh|Lap Good grief.
01:18 Cprossu neither were 'fun'.
01:19 sndwrx Stick to batteries, switches and LEDs.  :P
01:19 roadran422 I've had a cheap voltage meter and measured the voltage between the 2 terminals on a switch..... Huge spark and wire tester had a dent in it..
01:19 LemLap roadran422, until you understand ohms law, do not play with HV
01:19 LemLap you WILL get bitten
01:19 roadran422 Yes, I will xD thanks Lem Lap
01:19 Monkeh|Lap I've got 8 years of mucking around on you and I've only made the mistake once..
01:19 Monkeh|Lap And a few minor tingles.
01:19 st1y anyone here a pyro?
01:19 * Monkeh|Lap hides his Zippo
01:19 LemLap st1y YES!
01:19 st1y like... fireworks
01:19 roadran422 I'd like to be a pyro!
01:20 LemLap roadran422 http://bit.ly/I3lYE
01:20 BotSteve Title: Lessons In Electric Circuits
01:20 roadran422 I like to catch things on fire!
01:20 * masterofmonks pulls out the enormous safty mallet of dumbass thwacking.
01:20 st1y i'm planning my NYE show right now
01:20 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Oh please no.
01:20 Monkeh|Lap Fire is even worse than electricity to play with.
01:20 st1y it can be
01:20 roadran422 Lol
01:20 st1y but as long as you have some common sense you'll be fine
01:20 roadran422 I caught gas on fire ...
01:20 LemLap until you understand deflaggaration vs detonation roadran422, stick to candles :-P
01:20 roadran422 I have more than enough common snse lol
01:21 st1y i've been shooting fireworks and building fireworks for over a decade and i can still count to 10 without taking off my shoes
01:21 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Not enough to avoid blowing the bejesus out of a meter. :P
01:21 roadran422 Thanks LemLap and Moneh|Lap
01:21 * Monkeh|Lap suspects he knows what happened there
01:21 roadran422 I will take this in to consideration! xD
01:22 Seroster roadran422, a car battery will happily provide you with FIVE HUNDRED amps. Still, you can touch the terminals and not die. That is because the voltage is so low.   If you touch your mains 110volts you will only get 5 amps from it, but it will kill you pretty much instantly.      But a static shock is EASILY 15000volts, and just hurts.   The static shock is 1, VERY brief, and 2, it lacks current.      The battery on the other hand,
01:22 Seroster will provide 500amps of juice (0.03amps can kill)  - but the voltage is so low it can not overcome the resistance of your body, i.e you will be fine.  And yes, there is a difference between AC and DC, but screw that for the time being.   You can't kill with 100%amps. You can't kill with 100%volts. You need a bit of both.
01:22 st1y i just finished building a dozen 3 inch can salutes for NYE
01:22 st1y mmmmmmm 70/30
01:22 Seroster Nice, st1y. What size is your lift charge
01:22 roadran422 xD, I get it now! Thanks Seroster!
01:22 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: lol, 110V.
01:22 st1y 1/10th the weight of the finished can... F goex
01:23 wannabe1987 mmmm garlic!
01:23 roadran422 I've used a car battery charger and got a bike's spole to melt :)
01:23 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Small fry. ;)
01:23 roadran422 *spoke
01:23 Seroster monkeh Since he is 14 and it's the day before christmas I assume he isnt up at 2.30AM european time. If he aint european he is most likely american.
01:23 masterofmonks Also High frequency electricity is a weird beast.
01:23 st1y haven't weighed any of them yet, just finished sealing the plastic libs
01:23 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Use a car battery and get a crowbar to melt. ;P
01:23 roadran422 I am american xD
01:23 roadran422 Monkeh is that possible? xD
01:23 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Yeah I know, just laughing at 110V.
01:23 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Well no, not quite, but.. I've seen them glow.
01:23 Seroster roadran422, What gets the spoke to melt is the AMPs.
01:23 roadran422 o_o xD
01:23 Monkeh|Lap I've seen 10mm threaded rod melt.
01:24 Seroster And what is laughable about 110volts, except for that it is half of manly mains voltage? =P
01:24 roadran422 If I ran up to gemini when it ran I'd die?'
01:24 lwq1996 when the clock hits 10pm im goning to bed -yawns-
01:24 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: How inefficient and silly it is? ;)
01:24 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: That's debatable but it certainly wouldn't do you any favours.
01:24 roadran422 Lol
01:25 Seroster roadran422, You wouldnt be standing up
01:25 Seroster Gemini will maybe kill yiu
01:25 roadran422 FUN!
01:25 Seroster Thumper will kill you, and all of your classmates if you are all holding hands xD
01:25 Monkeh|Lap You could probably draw and arc off it and live. With varying levels of damage to your tissues.
01:25 wannabe1987 stupid microwave doesn't beep
01:25 roadran422 HAHAHAHAHaHA
01:25 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, Thumper'll go through what, a couple dozen people?
01:26 roadran422 I am starting to learn how anti-social I am. I was on here since aboug 9ish till now.
01:26 roadran422 9ish am to 10ish pm.
01:26 Seroster Lol
01:26 Seroster We are all anti social.
01:26 Seroster Where are you located in america?
01:26 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Dude, it's 1:25am on Christmas day. And here I am.
01:26 roadran422 Lol
01:26 roadran422 Go take a few presents ;) xd
01:26 roadran422 *xD
01:26 Monkeh|Lap I'm up at 8am and still I'm more interested in being on here than being awake in the morning to see my sister. :P
01:26 roadran422 Lol
01:27 wannabe1987 lol
01:27 roadran422 I've haven't been here for this long! I'm been entertaining myself
01:27 Seroster Hey roadran422, where are you from? Anywhere near northeast usa?
01:27 roadran422 Bradenton, Florida (SE)
01:27 Seroster wannabe1987, Does it *try* to beep, or is it just dead?
01:27 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Also, here in the UK, there's plenty of 110V which won't kill you (or probably even be felt)
01:27 roadran422 I'm not regular compared to anyone in my school. xD
01:27 Seroster Nice. masterofmonks can mess with you
01:28 Seroster Dude... None of the people in here are regular compared to others =P
01:28 wannabe1987 um its a new microwave and it um has a sound on/off button and i keep turn it on and it doesn't beep
01:28 Seroster Look at CaptainNiobe, she's an AUSTRALIAN
01:28 Seroster That's creepy.
01:28 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Ah, craptastic new microwaves..
01:28 roadran422 Hahaha, Last question. In europe a circuit breaker fails, and I need to power my room. I use a screwdriver as a "fuse". What would happen.
01:28 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: You mean a CONVICTED CRIMINAL
01:28 CaptainNiobe what's wrong with being australian?
01:28 roadran422 Lol
01:28 Seroster wannabe1987, It's made after 2000? You are fucked.
01:28 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Same as anywhere else.
01:28 wannabe1987 lol thx
01:28 Seroster CaptainNiobe, Except for the australian part? nothing =)
01:29 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Whatever caused it to trip will now have no protection and probably catch fire.
01:29 roadran422 lol ^
01:29 CaptainNiobe Seroster, anything you apply to me you have to apply to lemming, too... :P
01:29 roadran422 That's not a very nice thing.
01:29 roadran422 A house on fire!
01:29 Cprossu_kindle joined #thegeekgroup
01:29 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: You REALLY don't want to see what a dead short does at 240V.
01:29 Seroster And roadran422 If your circuit breaker trips in europe and you stuff a screwdriver in the place.... Depends on why the breeaker tripped
01:29 Cprossu_kindle yay finally
01:29 roadran422 Lightning, and it's still storming outside :)
01:30 Monkeh|Lap Actually, you won't see it for very long
01:30 Seroster If it is because of a short circuit... Your screwdriver will spit fire and molten metal on you, and trip the main fuse.
01:30 Monkeh|Lap It'll blind you.
01:30 roadran422 HAHAHAHAHAHA
01:30 SparkyProjects In the UK if you use a screwdriver as a fuse, the consumer fuse should blow (80 - 100 Amp fuse that the electricity supply company include)
01:30 Seroster If you put a crowbar where the main fuse is... Well you're just asking to die.
01:30 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Depends if it's a fault or a dead short.
01:30 roadran422 I am sitting here laughing my ass off! xD
01:30 Seroster And sometimes breakers trip because they are bored :I
01:30 SparkyProjects I'm assuming a dead short
01:30 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: You'd probably still get a lot of heat at the fault before the fuse went, those things are slow.
01:30 wannabe1987 mmmm garlic
01:31 roadran422 Lol
01:31 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: No, that's RCDs.
01:31 roadran422 O'm done asking questions lol
01:31 roadran422 I'm
01:31 Seroster Oh yes they do, monkeh.
01:31 SparkyProjects Though you may burn out the house wiring first
01:31 Seroster Lol
01:31 * Monkeh|Lap had a dumb moment earlier
01:31 roadran422 Lol
01:31 Monkeh|Lap Was wondering why an RCD was hot. Was half way into it before I realised why.
01:31 Seroster roadran422, SparkyProjects has been an electrician since before electricity was invented in the early 1900s. He's more awesome than chuck norris and older than santa.
01:31 roadran422 ...
01:32 Monkeh|Lap Was still interesting looking at it
01:32 roadran422 Hahaha cool!
01:32 Seroster (He's 57ish and started around 20years of age)
01:32 roadran422 Nice
01:32 roadran422 Wondering what he did when he was 10...
01:33 roadran422 Probably been bit 10-15 times? xd
01:33 roadran422 *xD
01:33 Seroster You don't want to know.... =O
01:33 Monkeh|Lap (if anyone other than Sparky or Seroster can say why the RCD was hot, you get a cookie from wannabe)
01:33 roadran422 .wiki RCD
01:33 BotSteve "Residual-current device in electrical engineering, a 'safety switch' style mechanism to prevent electrocution" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCD
01:33 SparkyProjects I'm 56, and started as a sparky at about 21
01:33 wannabe1987 cookies?  where.  i'm all out :/
01:33 Seroster monkeh I am unaware of the RCD acronym.
01:33 Seroster Ah
01:33 Seroster I WAS ONLY ONE YEAR OFF!
01:33 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Residual Current Device. See wiki link.
01:33 roadran422 I know why! To much power cause the switch to heat up..
01:33 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Nope. No load.
01:34 SparkyProjects Though i've been into electrical suff in my early teens
01:34 roadran422 It had residual energy?
01:34 Seroster RCD sounds retarded.
01:34 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Eh, it's what we use.
01:34 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: No..
01:34 roadran422 xD
01:34 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Also RCBO and RCCB.
01:34 Seroster Residual sounds like "Hey, you turned the power off, there is residual current in your wires! This takes care of it!"
01:34 Seroster Wich... Sounds fucking idiotic.
01:34 roadran422 Lol
01:34 Seroster What's wrong with "ground fault interrupter"?
01:35 Seroster Hey, a GFI, what could it possibly do? Ah, it interrupts ground faults!
01:35 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: 'GCFI' is an awful acronym.
01:35 roadran422 Idk what's wrong with it
01:35 Monkeh|Lap Er, GFCI
01:35 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Nothing's wrong with it at all. Normal operation.
01:35 SparkyProjects An RCD depends on the difference of current going out and coming back, if t's different by 30mA (usually) then it will trip
01:35 roadran422 My name Is Hy, I'm 14 and live in bradenton florida.
01:35 Seroster Why do americans have a hardon for annoyance?
01:35 Monkeh|Lap I'm sure Seroster and SparkyProjects have figured out why it was hot without a load connected.
01:35 roadran422 It had a load connected to it?
01:36 roadran422 Then it was disconnected...
01:36 Monkeh|Lap Nope.
01:36 roadran422 Then... Idk... xD
01:36 Ponko lwq1996: you wished you band members dressed like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&amp;NR=1&amp;v=PDLWOS5ppyQ
01:36 BotSteve Title: Destination Calabria - Alex Gaudino - YouTube
01:37 Monkeh|Lap Make that a project: Learn how RCDs work and figure out why a plug-in RCD gets warm/hot without even having a load connected.
01:37 roadran422 Ok... _-_ -_-
01:37 Seroster roadran422, a ground fault interrupter senses how much electricity (amps) you send out to the outlets. If it gets less back than it sends out it will get angry and cut power to the outlets.   That WILL save your life if you are stupid enough to poke a fork into a toaster while sitting in the bathtub.
01:37 Monkeh|Lap The answer is right there on the wiki.
01:37 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: MAY save your life.
01:37 roadran422 Lol, I am too lazy to read :P
01:38 roadran422 HAHAHAHA
01:38 Seroster As for why it gets hot when there is no load? Because electronic shit always gets hot.
01:38 Ponko Seroster if you saw a marching band 18+ dressed like that wouldn't you watch it lol
01:38 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Even if it operates immediately there's no guarantee an RCD/GFI will save you.
01:38 roadran422 Lol, Imagine someone using a hair dryer when they are in the tup
01:38 Seroster Stranger stuff has happened.
01:38 roadran422 *tub
01:38 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Ah, but I'm after the specific component generating noticable heat. ;)
01:39 Monkeh|Lap The one I totally forgot existed.
01:39 Seroster monkeh Ah, it's an evil transistor that hates you.
01:39 Seroster Either that or a coil
01:39 roadran422 It's a electromagnet? It causes heat!
01:39 roadran422 I got it!
01:39 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Not a transistor.
01:39 Cprossu_kindle silicon is a semiconductor therefore if its powered its producing heat.
01:39 roadran422 Did I get it? xD
01:39 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Bingo, the solenoid which holds the contacts closed.
01:39 wannabe1987 does mint go with fish?
01:39 wannabe1987 or chicken?
01:39 wannabe1987 HELP
01:39 roadran422 Lol
01:39 Monkeh|Lap That thing gets a bit warm after a while.
01:39 SparkyProjects Monkeh|Lap: If the plugin RCD is a 'powerbreaker', then they can explode in your hand
01:39 SparkyProjects Had it happen once
01:39 SparkyProjects At work our boss wanted RCD's on all extension leads (10 of them), after plugging in just an extension lead with no load, it exploded, after that we cut the rcd's off and put regular plugs back on :P
01:40 roadran422 I was looking at a picture and saw electromagnet. And I new it causes heat xD
01:40 Seroster monkeh As for the statistics of live or die gfi + toaster in tub... You might not be happy, but you would be FAR less happy without it for sure.
01:40 * lwq1996 has another one of wannabes cookies
01:40 lwq1996 :D
01:40 roadran422 lol
01:40 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Impressive.
01:40 roadran422 .cookie roadran422
01:40 BotSteve Here you go, roadran422, I baked you an oatmeal raisin cookie!
01:40 roadran422 Yay! xD
01:40 Seroster wannabe1987, Mint only goes well with desserts.
01:40 Cprossu_kindle a solenoid might aswell be a dead short.
01:40 SparkyProjects The socket i plugged into was one without a switch
01:40 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Oh, they definitely help. But they're not 100%.
01:41 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I dislike unswitched sockets if they're accessible.
01:41 lwq1996 mot true seroster what about tea?
01:41 Seroster Monkeh, It's a novice. Let's not make shit overly confusing, let's round off 85% to 100, eh? =P
01:41 Seroster tea is a dessert.
01:41 roadran422 It's a dessert? A appetizer! lol
01:41 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: It seems utterly mad not to have a safe method of disconnection before pulling the plug.
01:41 wannabe1987 seroster i don't believe you
01:41 wannabe1987 i know it goes on chicken
01:41 Seroster Good policy, wannabe1987.
01:42 wannabe1987 lo.
01:42 roadran422 Lol
01:42 roadran422 xD
01:42 wannabe1987 lol
01:42 Cprossu_kindle pg tips is not something you should have as desert....cookies are.
01:42 SparkyProjects It was an old building, that was a single in a corridor, it's been chaanged since as we have done rewiring
01:42 roadran422 Seroster, you've lost your trust with wanabe xD
01:42 Cprossu_kindle dessert
01:42 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Could be worse. 70s era MK sockets.. they don't fail nicely.
01:42 * Monkeh|Lap has grown tired of replacing their broken sockets
01:42 SparkyProjects MK was my prefeered electrical accessory
01:42 Cprossu_kindle yay french sockets for fail =p
01:43 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: They're nice and all, but that shutter mechanism is unreliable in my experience.
01:43 roadran422 I've read stories on people being shocked due to broken grounds on there amps for guitars
01:43 Monkeh|Lap Also I think the current ones look stupid.
01:43 wannabe1987 america!  (west side story on glee)
01:43 SparkyProjects Never had a problem with them
01:43 Seroster Happens all the time, roadran422.
01:43 roadran422 Lol
01:44 Seroster A GFI, fuses and proper grounding will keep a lot of unhappy from happening.
01:44 roadran422 Happy Holidays to all!
01:44 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: The only thing I like about current MK sockets is the terminal capacity.
01:44 SparkyProjects They are safe where children are, especially if they have access to sharp objects (knitting needles)
01:44 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: All BS1363 sockets have shutters.
01:44 wannabe1987 what about my needles?
01:44 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: The MK mechanism just seems unreliable.
01:45 SparkyProjects The one thing i don't like about the modern plus is that they got rid of the nut type terminal
01:45 Monkeh|Lap Maybe it's just the type they were selling in the 70s and 80s, but I've replaced stupid numbers of them
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01:45 roadran422 Hi Jim
01:45 roadran422 bo
01:46 roadran422 :-D
01:46 SparkyProjects I suppose i installed most during the late 80's up to 2008
01:46 Jimmbob Hello! Merry Christmas from the UK :P
01:46 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Nut type?
01:46 Seroster We all know you lvoe nuts SparkyProjects
01:46 Seroster Hello there Jimmbob
01:46 roadran422 It's not christmas yet for us people ine the U.S.
01:46 SparkyProjects The wrap around connection
01:46 Jimmbob haha awh :)
01:46 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Oh, those.
01:46 roadran422 So... I'm lost xD
01:46 SparkyProjects That's why i like you Seroster, you're the biggest nut i know :D
01:46 roadran422 xD
01:47 roadran422 Seroster is getting owned lol
01:47 Seroster :c
01:47 roadran422 xD
01:47 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Personally I'm growing fond of the screwless clamps these days.
01:47 Ponko haha
01:47 Seroster He's just envious because my nuts are bigger.
01:47 roadran422 ...
01:47 roadran422 o_O
01:47 Seroster or is that spelled with a y?
01:47 roadran422 O_o
01:47 roadran422 o_0
01:47 roadran422 0_o
01:47 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: http://64.78.1.67/images/wir-ueber-uns-2-g.jpg
01:47 SparkyProjects Don't like screwless, done too many in things like circulating pumps
01:47 wannabe1987 i'm lost....but its ok
01:48 roadran422 Lol
01:48 wannabe1987 exor674
01:48 * exor674 bites wannabe1987
01:48 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: The push-in type?
01:48 roadran422 Lol
01:48 roadran422 ångström and b^2=c^2-a^2
01:49 SparkyProjects yep, also the type in that image don't give enough surface area for contact.
01:49 wannabe1987 my fish is exploding
01:49 roadran422 My brother over fed a fish and it blew up.
01:49 Seroster But they are  springy, a screw can get loose, and stuff can fall out due to vibration.  But the spring ones just get tighter
01:49 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Never had an issue with the pictured type.
01:49 Monkeh|Lap Hate the push-in ones though, they're just plain fiddly sometimes, won't take stranded, and are a nightmare to remove a conductor from.
01:50 SparkyProjects I associate the spring type with a blunt knife :P
01:50 Monkeh|Lap I can see them being a bad thing with DIYers though
01:51 Monkeh|Lap They get simple screw terminals wrong easily enough.
01:51 SparkyProjects The push in type usually have a hole for a pin so you can remove the wire, but i've found pushing too hard can make the spring hang up so it doesn't return
01:51 Monkeh|Lap (I don't consider myself a DIYer, although I suppose I am)
01:51 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Some of them do, others require twisting.
01:52 Monkeh|Lap You try twisting a conductor out of them when there are four of them in there.
01:52 Seroster lol
01:52 Seroster They aint made for removing
01:52 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Which sucks!
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01:52 roadran422 I am not a DIYer what soever other than this : https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1476264279845&amp;l=7c1b93dc12
01:52 roadran422 I made it from a LCD Monitor
01:53 BotSteve Title: Hy Diep's Photos | Facebook
01:53 Seroster Yes ofcourse. I only buy screw types
01:53 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: I use quite a lot of the lever ones these days.
01:53 Seroster Push a lever, put wire in, push lever wire comes out?
01:53 Seroster Or are you talking about those new clamp things?
01:53 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Lift lever, put wire in, drop lever.
01:53 Seroster Right
01:53 wannabe1987 mmm fish
01:53 Seroster Are those good?
01:54 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/Products/size_3/WA413.JPG
01:54 Monkeh|Lap I like 'em.
01:54 roadran422 Lol Wanabee
01:54 Seroster Yeah, that kind
01:54 Seroster They bind all the three inputs together eh?
01:54 roadran422 Are you lost wannabe?
01:54 Monkeh|Lap They're easy and secure.
01:54 wannabe1987 no....why?
01:54 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Yeah, there's one solid bar inside which goes through three spring clamps.
01:54 roadran422 .... I am xD
01:54 wannabe1987 i made fish for supper....and i'm eating it now
01:54 Seroster Right
01:54 lwq1996 im getting off of here everyone, night and have a merry christmas
01:54 roadran422 Nice! Hahaha
01:54 wannabe1987 awww lee!
01:54 wannabe1987 :(
01:54 roadran422 Night lwq1996
01:54 wannabe1987 lwq1996 :(
01:54 wannabe1987 night
01:54 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: They're these: http://64.78.1.67/images/wir-ueber-uns-2-g.jpg
01:55 roadran422 Were you born in 1996?
01:55 Seroster monkeh... Suppose they can't be mounted on something?
01:55 wannabe1987 yes he was
01:55 lwq1996 yes
01:55 wannabe1987 and i was born in 87
01:55 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: The thick bar runs through all the spring clamps.
01:55 Ponko night lee
01:55 roadran422 Oh... One yr older than I am :) well night1
01:55 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: They can
01:55 roadran422 *!
01:55 Seroster Would be nice to have a few on my PSU. One two way clamp for hot, one for neutral, one for ground, three for different caps.
01:55 lwq1996 night everyone
01:55 * lwq1996 hugs irc
01:55 roadran422 Night! LOl
01:55 * wannabe1987 hugs lwq1996
01:55 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: They come with strain relief mounting plates and can even be attached to DIN rails.
01:55 roadran422 How do you do that?
01:55 Seroster Kickass
01:56 * Ponko fist bumps lwq1996
01:56 Monkeh|Lap Er, sorry, you can get the plates
01:56 roadran422 wannabe how do you type an action out like you did..
01:56 Monkeh|Lap They probably do come with them in boxed assortments though
01:56 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/Products/size_3/WA500V.JPG
01:56 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: DIN mount and strain relief plate.
01:56 wannabe1987 lol liek this?
01:56 * wannabe1987 slaps roadran422
01:56 roadran422 Yes :P
01:56 wannabe1987 you go /me <action?
01:56 Seroster Hrm
01:56 wannabe1987 >*
01:56 roadran422 Ok lol
01:56 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: They're not designed for operation inside the clamp, though. Nor are they designed for constantly adding and removing wires.
01:57 Monkeh|Lap (the plastic lever breaks.)
01:57 * roadran422 <slaps wannabe1987 back>
01:57 * roadran422 <slaps wannabe1987 back>
01:57 wannabe1987 you don't need the <>'s
01:57 Seroster monkeh I want something to add securely to my sheet metal power supply. Something where I can just throw in a bunch of wires and be sure they aint coming loose.
01:57 roadran422 o xD
01:57 * roadran422 slaps wannabe1987 back
01:57 wannabe1987 don't hit girls
01:57 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Er, let's see. Willing to put a DIN rail on it?
01:57 * roadran422 :)
01:57 wannabe1987 real men don't hit women /attitude
01:57 Seroster monkeh Sure, DINrail is kickass.
01:57 Seroster It will have a fair bit of DIN inside
01:57 roadran422 Real men hit women! xD
01:58 Seroster DIN breakers, DIN gfi, DIN contactor
01:58 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Wago make what you desire.
01:58 roadran422 I am a man for equality. A man can hit a women a women can hit a man...
01:58 wannabe1987 but i don't hit
01:58 roadran422 A girl can ask a guy out and guy can ask a girl out, a women can ask guy out, a guy can ask a women out.
01:58 wannabe1987 so...
01:58 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: You need a screwdriver to add/remove wires but only to push the button.
01:58 SparkyProjects I don't know if those push tye terminals will fit, but mini din is available
01:58 Seroster hm
01:59 Seroster "Feminism is the idea that we can make both sexes equal by focusing solely on the issues of one of them."
01:59 Monkeh|Lap Lemme find the right one
01:59 roadran422 I am sending Florida Flag to Chris!
01:59 roadran422 From amazon!
01:59 Seroster monkeh, I could have a few wires hanging out to a bunch of two pole terminals.
02:01 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: You can get jumpers.
02:01 Seroster Yeah. They would be jumpers in essence.
02:01 Monkeh|Lap Be damned if I can find the ones I'm thinking of
02:01 Seroster But really, I can get a few three pole types of those lever clamps, drill two holes in the sheet metal for a ziptie and one hole for the power feed
02:01 Seroster Then I have two terminals free.
02:02 roadran422 Just bought a florida flag for chris to hang!
02:02 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Yeah, just be aware that the levers break off.
02:02 Seroster ....Are they supposed to?
02:02 Seroster Thats what i love with screw terminals tho. They got holes for screwing to stuff.
02:02 SparkyProjects If i'm building a panel, i prefer this type http://www.salzerelectonics.net/full-images/649190.jpg
02:02 SparkyProjects You can get them in standard or mini din, they can have fuses, jumpers, and are colour coded for easy identification, plus you can add numbers.
02:02 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: No, but they're also not supposed to be operated a hundred times.
02:03 Seroster hehe
02:03 Seroster Yeah, SparkyProjects. They are pretty awesome, but far overkill.
02:04 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Are those the push-fit types?
02:04 Seroster Nope
02:04 Seroster Those are screw ones
02:04 Monkeh|Lap I've seen basically these, but DIN rail mounted: http://www.wago.com/cms/images/Anschlusskl-g.jpg
02:04 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: One of those would likely make you happy, actually.
02:04 SparkyProjects Depends on the panel, for example i built an auto chaangeover panel for a generator, which included autostart, engine monitoring, etc.
02:04 SparkyProjects Generator was 60A 3 phase
02:05 Seroster http://www.hifikit.se/prodpixsmall/sockerbit.jpg  Name of those?
02:05 SparkyProjects Monkeh, no,  they are screw type
02:05 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Er, crappy cheap screw terminals.
02:05 Seroster They work
02:05 Monkeh|Lap Connection strips.
02:05 Monkeh|Lap Nasty flimsy things.
02:05 Seroster They are safe enough for me
02:05 Cprossu_kindle woot still connected
02:05 Seroster And tey are in essence the same as the DIN rail mounted ones
02:05 Seroster Except a bit wider
02:06 SparkyProjects Seroster, we call them terminal strips or chocolate blocks (orginally they were brown and hard, like bakelite)
02:06 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: And a lot cheaper
02:06 Seroster SparkyProjects, Here they are called "sockerbit" - wich translates to sugarlump.
02:06 SparkyProjects :P
02:06 Seroster Wich works with white ones
02:06 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: DIYers these days like to call them chocboxes, because they're dumb and get them confused with the equally cheap and nasty (but also equally servicable) enclosures
02:06 roadran422 Lol
02:07 SparkyProjects I would not use them for the transition between a panel and field wiring
02:07 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I try not to use them for anything myself.
02:07 Seroster Why not?
02:07 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: I think this'd suit you if you can find somewhere to buy it: http://www.wago.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-81AF7561-C666A28A/wago/style.xsl/eng-2668.htm
02:07 BotSteve Title: WAGO Limited
02:08 SparkyProjects There's no real choice in something like a light fitting, and i only use the hard heat resistant types
02:08 Seroster They are cheaper in the long run than crimp connects. They last forever if used properly. They are tidy, can handle high voltages...
02:08 Seroster If I get the screwdriver out I might just do the screw terminal, eh? =P
02:08 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Wago 224s are specifically designed for light fixtures.
02:08 Seroster lol
02:09 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Except this requires no screwing and takes flexible, stranded, and solid conductors with no preperation. ;)
02:09 SparkyProjects Monkeh, so are porcelain terminal blocks :D
02:09 Seroster And that I need to get somewhere, I have boxes full of screw terminals =P
02:09 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: True. I like these, though: http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Images/Products/size_3/WA112.JPG
02:10 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Fairly permanent push-fit for the loop side and a lever clamp for the flex to the lamps.
02:10 Seroster o
02:10 Monkeh|Lap You don't need quite so many hands with them. ;)
02:11 Seroster Anyway, monkeh, how many uses do you think I get from one of them lever connectors?
02:11 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: The levers? Not sure, probably at least a couple hundred.
02:11 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: I found out they break because I idly played with a couple which were on my desk.
02:11 Seroster And SparkyProjects, do you approve of them for power supply to motor, for <1hr testing periods??
02:11 roadran422 Poop!
02:11 Seroster Lol, monkeh=P
02:11 roadran422 Watermellon!
02:11 roadran422 Pinapple!
02:11 Seroster Dude.
02:12 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: They've got a whole host of certs and depending on your local wiring regs are good for up to 32A.
02:12 roadran422 Jackfruit! xD
02:12 Seroster monkeh... Precisely WHAT about my power supply do you think is legal?
02:12 SparkyProjects Terminal strips are ok for motors (if that's all you have), but remember about heat limits
02:12 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Just saying.
02:13 Seroster Heat limits? Ambient
02:13 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: He's talking about how horrifically hot you let your undersized wires get. :P
02:13 SparkyProjects Ambient is fine
02:13 Seroster The thing will probably never handle more than 2.3kw
02:13 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: At 230V?
02:13 Seroster 10amp breaker =)
02:13 Seroster yes
02:14 Seroster 230single phase
02:14 Monkeh|Lap They'll be fine
02:14 Seroster Sure theyll be
02:14 Seroster Wanna know the horrible illegalness of my psu?
02:14 Seroster It has one outlet that functions like a regular outlet
02:14 roadran422 Hey ya'll. I gtg!
02:15 Ponko laters roadran422
02:15 Seroster And there is one outlet that works like a switch, it has a special plug with a dead short inside, and it's live on one side and it's feed to the other outlet on the other side.
02:15 roadran422 Laters all!
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02:15 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: I doubt it's actually illegal unless you're using it in a workplace
02:15 Seroster Because the leads of my multimeter fit in the shuko holes, if I want to measure amps I remove the plug and put the meter in there.
02:16 Seroster Then I can measure amps without having to cut wires and splice and... It's a mess.
02:16 Monkeh|Lap Special.
02:16 Seroster Instead, pop the shuko out of its hole, put meter in =P
02:16 Seroster Sure is special, but it works.
02:17 Seroster And the really nice thing is I can hook a 70watt inductive ballast to a plug and put it in that hole, instant power limit
02:17 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Have a look around your shopping sites for Wago 862 series connectors.
02:17 Seroster Yeah I will =)
02:17 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: They're the black surface mount things.
02:17 Seroster Mind you this is the first verision of the power supply in beta testing
02:18 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: The levers are 222 series
02:18 Seroster It will get far more advanced.
02:18 Seroster Righto, monkeh =)
02:18 Monkeh|Lap The 862s can be screwed down
02:19 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: How many terminals did you want again?
02:19 Seroster For the moment it is power in via an e-stop, lights to show power in, lights to show e-stop inactive. in paralell goes to transformer, out to the dead mans switch and into the contactor, wich sends it to the series outlet, with more lights and finally to the end outlet.
02:19 Seroster How many terminals or how many poles?
02:19 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Both.
02:19 Seroster I want l, n, pe, cap, cap, cap, cap cap misc misc
02:19 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: The 862s come as x number of poles, four terminals per pole.
02:20 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: For example: http://secure.wago.ltd.uk/shop/images/product/862_5051238420266_301.jpg
02:20 Monkeh|Lap They come in packs of five too, so..
02:20 Monkeh|Lap And obviously you can just jumper them
02:21 Monkeh|Lap The fancy DIN ones actually have jumper pins but they're a little more pricy.
02:21 wannabe1987 .c 340km to miles
02:21 BotSteve 211.266205 miles
02:21 Seroster When I am done I want to have a box with outlets of 5vac/dc 9vac/dc 12vac/dc 24vac/dc 50vac/dc 230vac and 375vDC. Then I want some caps ranging from 2 to 25mikes for "false threephase"
02:21 Seroster There will be a switch and a relay for each transformer, and another switch for the relays that rectify it
02:22 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Okay, so a great row of the above..
02:22 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Actually, for very low current (1A or less), look at speaker terminals..
02:22 Seroster double pole double throw relay, with L to com1 and N to com2.    NC goes to the ac and NO goes to rectifying
02:23 Seroster Yeah, I have, but I think ill go for bigger
02:23 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: I'll be using those speaker terminals for my little 5V/12V PSU I'm working on right now
02:23 Monkeh|Lap Half of it's here, half of it's not..
02:23 Seroster The finished product will have a bunch of circuit breakers too.
02:24 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: I'm butchering this poor old thing: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-icmDEN4XW08/TvPqEldf2QI/AAAAAAAAAPo/ZdVHc-wCMv0/s640/IMG_20111223_023933.jpg
02:24 Seroster 1, 2, 3 and 4 amps in series.
02:24 Monkeh|Lap (semi-butchered already as you can see, don't mind the hacksaw marks)
02:24 Seroster Wait, paralell*
02:24 Seroster So if I want a breaker that trips at 5amps I hit 2+3 or 4+1
02:25 SparkyProjects Seroster, NO
02:25 Seroster Have fun butchering that =P
02:25 Ponko Batty the bad guy in Blade Runner
02:25 Seroster Doesnt work like that, eh? =P
02:25 Ponko but on here he's a god
02:25 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: It's already butchered really :P
02:25 Seroster Then I'll have to run them seperately
02:25 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Just need to replace the crappy cap and wire it up.
02:25 Seroster Nicel
02:26 Seroster I thought you were going to REALLY butcher it
02:26 Monkeh|Lap Pondering adding more caps to it
02:26 SparkyProjects If the current ratings were exact, then maybe yes, but they generally don't trip at the current, depending on what type it could be 1.2 times the rating
02:26 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: It already supplies stable 5VDC and 12VDC, not much to change on it.
02:26 Seroster Get the hvrectifier, transistor, send it to the transfrmer....
02:26 SparkyProjects So doubling up could increase that to 2.4 times the rating
02:26 Seroster SparkyProjects, It doesnt need to be exact. I just want something to trip before my 10a apartment fuse goes
02:27 SparkyProjects ^
02:27 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Damn, 10A for an entire apartment. That's scary.
02:27 Seroster ....
02:27 Seroster I dont know how many circuits there are. But at least four for my one room apartment
02:28 SparkyProjects Seroster, our soockets are rated at 13 amps each, if i was building a supply i would go with 2, 6, 10 amps, that should cover most things
02:28 Seroster Six breakers,
02:28 * Monkeh|Lap would arrange for a seperate circuit for playing with things
02:28 Monkeh|Lap Doesn't have to be permanent as long as there's a spot for a spare MCB.
02:28 Seroster SparkyProjects, I won't need 10amps, then the apartment 10amper would blow before the psu one did
02:29 Seroster And monkeh, NO
02:29 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Would it?
02:29 Monkeh|Lap Depends on the profile.
02:29 Seroster I might fuck around with a PSU, but I AM NOT pulling new wires in something I rent
02:29 astro73|alice good eve, geeks
02:29 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: As I said, doesn't have to be permanent. ie. they'd never even know it was there.
02:29 SparkyProjects 10 amps for an apartment sounds more like third world where they use a single generator for a whole village :P
02:29 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Sounds like France to me.
02:29 st1y lol
02:30 Seroster monkeh, the apartment one is slow, and the one ill use will be slow too, for the simple reason I'll run motors from it.
02:30 Seroster SparkyProjects, I got 60amps.
02:30 Seroster Six breakers, ten amps each. This outlet got 10amps
02:30 SparkyProjects ah
02:30 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Is there a spare space for an MCB and a convenient hole in the CU you can get a cable out of?
02:30 Seroster Monkeh. Forgetit. =P
02:31 st1y i wish i understood electrical stuff, as far as i can tell you guys are basically speaking a foreign language.
02:31 Seroster It's not only stupid, but also illegal.
02:31 SparkyProjects in the old days when all sockets were wired like America, we had either 5 amp or 15 amp sockets :P
02:31 Seroster st1y, If you got questions just ask =)
02:31 Seroster Cute
02:31 st1y yeah there's not enough time
02:31 st1y lol
02:31 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Man, but playing with 6mm flex and 60309s is fun.
02:31 Seroster ... I hate you monkeh =P
02:31 st1y i'm so behind the knowledge it will take weeks
02:31 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: :D
02:32 st1y i've been wanting to learn, so i can build a wireless firing system for shooting fireworks...
02:32 Seroster But those 552s are really a pain when working with the dual mrxc's....
02:32 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Don't forget the little 2A ones
02:32 st1y but i'm so lost and the existing systems are so far ahead of what i can do i'll just buy one
02:32 Seroster Yes. I am just making shit up to make monkeh run to google.
02:32 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: They were cute.
02:32 SparkyProjects st1y: What is your area of interest as a geek ?
02:32 SparkyProjects Computers, games, electrical ?
02:32 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Pfft, I know you're making crap up. :P
02:33 Seroster st1y, While messing around with fireworks... Let someone else who knows their shit do the firing system ;P
02:33 st1y pyro, computers, music/movies, machining metal/wood/plastic
02:33 SparkyProjects Monkeh|Lap: Remember the 2 amp ones, or the clock connectors ?
02:33 st1y stuff like that
02:33 SparkyProjects Even cuter
02:33 Seroster At least if you like to be able to count to ten without taking your socks off ;D
02:33 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Yeah, those clock ones are fun too :D
02:33 st1y but i'd love to add electrical to my quiver
02:33 st1y i alos like rolling ball sculptures
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Haven't see BS546 sockets around in a few years
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Shame really
02:33 st1y *also
02:33 Seroster Who doest, sty?
02:34 Monkeh|Lap Never actually seen a 30A one.
02:34 st1y i've got 7 vintage spacewarp sets on my bookshelf right now
02:34 st1y 3 of them are black wolf's
02:34 SparkyProjects In a previous house i wired a couple of clock connectors from the light switch to just above the fireplace so we could have a couple of imitation oil lamps on it, worked well, no trailing wires, and connectors weree hidden
02:35 st1y but ask me anything about fireworks and i can answer it.
02:36 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Haven't seen that done in a while. Much better than how most people wire them up..
02:36 Monkeh|Lap People seem to think it's fine to just twist and tape behind wall lamps..
02:36 SparkyProjects It's great that you can still buy the 2, 5, 15 amp plugs and sockets, and the clock connectors
02:37 st1y when i worked for a home improvement company, we were finishing a dormer addition, and discovered that the entire 2nd floor was "wired" with extension cords in the wall.
02:37 st1y the inspector was not amused
02:38 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Aye, they're ideal for connecting lights and such with so people can't plug random things (hoovers..) in instead
02:38 SparkyProjects The imitation wall lamps were the standing type, not wall mounted
02:38 SparkyProjects For wall lamps i would prefer the Klix ? system, even the ceiling lamps would benefit from that type
02:38 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Yeah, I've seen those, they just seem outrageously expensive most places.
02:39 SparkyProjects At the old workplace we used the T earth plugs and sockets to stop people plugging into special supplies
02:39 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Anyone still make the 2 or 5A sockets in smaller faceplate sizes?
02:40 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Don't hate on the old Wylex plugs.
02:40 Seroster Anyway
02:40 Seroster Goodnight SparkyProjects
02:40 Seroster Goodnight monkeh
02:40 SparkyProjects I knoow you can get the surface mounted 2 amp ones, not sure about flush ones
02:40 Seroster And... Night st1y + CaptainNiobe and whoever else
02:40 Monkeh|Lap Night Seroster
02:40 SparkyProjects Night Seroster
02:41 Seroster Is monkeh brittish too=
02:41 CaptainNiobe goodnight Seroster, sleep well and sweet dreams :)
02:41 Seroster Remove the s and an e
02:41 SparkyProjects Monkeh is British
02:41 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Yes.
02:41 Seroster EEP
02:41 Ponko oh god Seroster you dirty boy
02:41 Seroster I'm surrounded by brittish and penal colonists.
02:41 wannabe1987 .seen toastdude
02:41 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Toastdude 20.13 hours ago at 2011-12-24 06:33:38 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:41:43 UTC
02:41 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw ZombieToast 50.36 hours ago at 2011-12-23 00:20:19 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
02:41 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Attack of the british electonerds!
02:41 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw AgCNO6 55.96 hours ago at 2011-12-22 18:44:01 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
02:41 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Bot-Toast 99.55 hours ago at 2011-12-20 23:08:53 UTC on #tgg-bots.
02:41 astro73|alice sndwrx: well, if we ask chris nicely, he might be able to do a movie about the set up next year
02:41 Seroster yeah, shit, I should haste away
02:41 wannabe1987 hi astro :D
02:41 astro73|alice masterofmonks: you're welcome
02:42 astro73|alice hey wannabe1987
02:42 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Soviet_Plug_Type2_6A_250V.jpg Oh hey it's a junction bo- wait, that's a plug?
02:42 Seroster cya brits
02:42 Ponko HOORAY HE'S GONE XD
02:42 Ponko lol
02:43 SparkyProjects Soviets have weird stuff :P
02:43 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I rather like the Walsall plugs.
02:43 Monkeh|Lap Nice simple idea, rather than actually change anything, just rotate the pins 90 degrees.
02:43 SparkyProjects Yeah, that's a good make
02:44 SparkyProjects oh, the multi plugs ?
02:44 SparkyProjects Don't like those
02:44 sndwrx astro73|alice: Is Chris buddies with him, or something?
02:44 Ponko Monkeh|Lap: whereabouts you from i think you mentioned but i forgot
02:44 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: These: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/WG13_PICT6943.jpg
02:44 Monkeh|Lap Ponko: Cornwall
02:45 astro73|alice sndwrx: I don't think so, but I think chris would like the scale of the project and learning how it works
02:45 Ponko GREEN ARMY
02:45 sndwrx gotcha
02:45 Ponko where in Cornwall
02:45 Ponko Plymouth :P
02:45 SparkyProjects Ah, those
02:45 Monkeh|Lap Ponko: Not far from Saltash.
02:45 Ponko ah ok
02:45 SparkyProjects http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f1/13A_Plug_T_Shaped_Earth.JPG/600px-13A_Plug_T_Shaped_Earth.JPG
02:45 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Yep, those. Nice, simple way to stop people plugging the wrong thing in without actually changing anything.
02:46 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: More efficient to manufacture than the T-shaped ones. :)
02:46 SparkyProjects True i suppose
02:47 Monkeh|Lap Either works though
02:47 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Only thing I really hate about BS1363.
02:47 Monkeh|Lap It allows these: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/Doubler_and_tripler.jpg
02:50 SparkyProjects We had a policy at the workplace, if anyone brought one of those in (or a department purchsed them), we would insist they had a built in fuse, there's some on the market without a fuse, so a triple couls essentially be loaded to 32 amps on one socket
02:50 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Triple ones without a fuse are, iirc, not allowed.
02:50 Monkeh|Lap Personally I hate the things
02:50 * KB3NZQ is wishing for a yeasu ft857
02:50 Monkeh|Lap There's one in use in the house and it's the only one I'll allow.
02:50 Monkeh|Lap And only because the total load consists of an undercabinet light and a phone charger.
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02:51 SparkyProjects Well yeah, i don't like them, we would prefer the 4 gang fused extensions if there was no other way, but would see about providing more sockets in the room
02:51 Monkeh|Lap I also have a general hate of gigantic transformers hanging off little pins.
02:52 Monkeh|Lap They really should have specified a hard limit on the size and weight of anything plugged directly into a socket
02:52 Monkeh|Lap But instead, those bricks are actually totally exempt from the standard..
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02:53 roadran422 .seen toastdude
02:53 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw Toastdude 20.33 hours ago at 2011-12-24 06:33:38 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 02:53:22 UTC
02:53 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw ZombieToast 50.55 hours ago at 2011-12-23 00:20:19 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
02:53 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw AgCNO6 56.16 hours ago at 2011-12-22 18:44:01 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
02:53 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw Bot-Toast 99.74 hours ago at 2011-12-20 23:08:53 UTC on #tgg-bots.
02:53 SparkyProjects Our sockets are quite robust at supporting weight (though i adree it shouldn't be done), but imagine that weight on say the American or European plugs ?
02:53 roadran422 Hi! again...
02:53 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Yeah, no wonder they have so many electrical fires. :)
02:53 SparkyProjects And those garden lighting (12 volt) transformers are one of the worst
02:54 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Those things? They're literally the size of a brick!
02:54 Monkeh|Lap Anyone who actually plugs one of those in is just asking for it
02:56 st1y woot, my boss just dropped off a christmas card with $500 in it.
02:56 st1y time for a new video card.
02:56 st1y lol
02:56 SparkyProjects Actually, talking to firemen about electrical fires, even when you see their demo of several adaptors plugged in with nearly a dozen appliances, most 'electrical' fires were things like putting a heater too close to a curtain or bed
02:56 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Oh, yeah, user stupidity is usually the cause.
02:57 Ponko ok night peeps
02:57 st1y night
02:57 SparkyProjects If it  'involves' an electrical appliance, it's classed as an electrical fire
02:57 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Kinda funny really. People think that if the air coming out is only warm, it can't be that hot inside.
02:58 SparkyProjects Yep
02:58 Monkeh|Lap Put a finger on that wire and tell me it's only warm. :)
02:58 SparkyProjects Actually, when you cover a convector, there's no circulation of air, it just gets hotter
02:59 SparkyProjects That's why they have 2 safety devices
02:59 SparkyProjects (actually 3 with the tilt switch)
02:59 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: This is why I like proper central heating.
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02:59 egrsteve morning all
02:59 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
02:59 BotSteve At 24 Dec 08:28Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell egrsteve well, most of those cameras do have component out ... well, at least they do *somewhere* :) (that fancy multipin header that attaches the back to the front)
02:59 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: One very, very safe place where the temperature is dangerous. Everywhere else, not enough to do more than give you a minor burn at worst, certainly not start a fire.
03:00 Monkeh|Lap Unless you put a blanket over the pump in your cupboard, but then you're just an idiot.
03:00 egrsteve thanks tonsofpcs I know it's there somewhere, it's just a matter of finding it in the pinout (if they have multipins)
03:01 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Two? Heat and current?
03:02 SparkyProjects 2 thermal, one was bimetallic, other was a heat fuse
03:02 Monkeh|Lap Ah
03:02 Monkeh|Lap Shows you how many heaters I've taken apart
03:02 astro73|alice egrsteve: "morning"?
03:02 Monkeh|Lap Gave one an idle try once, but they REALLY don't want you getting into those.
03:02 egrsteve yes, morning
03:03 astro73|alice .... ok
03:03 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: Hey, it's 3AM
03:03 astro73|alice where?
03:03 Monkeh|Lap astro73|alice: UTC. Only time that matters.
03:04 SparkyProjects We had an issue years ago when the workplace rule about heating was that it was turned off in April, and only turned on again in October,
03:04 SparkyProjects But what happened when it got chilly during the 'summer' is that all the heaters came out of the cupboards, this overloaded the sockets blowing the trip, we spent a lot of  time resetting trips.
03:04 SparkyProjects SO i made the suggestion that we should tune the heating with the weather.
03:04 SparkyProjects Many years later it's been changed to an always on and optimised system
03:04 SparkyProjects A drill helps with opening appliances :P
03:04 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I've seen DNO transformers get blown because loads of electric heaters have been handed out.
03:05 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Needless to say the DNOs get very, very angry when that happens.
03:05 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I think a hammer and an angle grinder would've been more appropriate for this heater.
03:05 SparkyProjects DNO's ?
03:05 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: They actually welded the case together.
03:06 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Distribution Network Operators?
03:06 Monkeh|Lap Whereabouts are you again?
03:06 egrsteve this could be handy: http://www.rcrowley.com/sonypinout.htm
03:06 BotSteve Title: Sony 14-Pin Connector Pinout
03:06 SparkyProjects Ah, we had 5 transformers on the main site :P
03:06 SparkyProjects And i was authorised 11kv switcher
03:07 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Authorised sacrificial lamb.
03:07 * Monkeh|Lap doesn't like HV switching
03:08 Monkeh|Lap Something about watching people going around with a fibreglass pole making arcs is not enticing
03:08 SparkyProjects HV switchng is fine, you follow a procedure, double and triple check with an assistant, and you'll be fine.
03:08 SparkyProjects The worst part is if the switchgear is old, there's a chance of explosion :P
03:08 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Plenty of chance of that with LV too :)
03:09 SparkyProjects Most switchgear is interlocked
03:09 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Cast iron cutout anyone?
03:09 SparkyProjects Yep, at least 3 switches were cast iron, and installed sometime in the 1930's :P
03:10 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Come across a couple of those. Walk away briskly and call the DNO. I don't even want to be near the things.
03:10 Monkeh|Lap Of course I have plenty of doubts about the lifetime of the modern plastic wonders
03:11 SparkyProjects The great thing about old stuff is that they were over engineered
03:11 Monkeh|Lap Mostly, yeah.
03:12 Monkeh|Lap Applies to everything up to about the 70s imo
03:12 Monkeh|Lap Things all just went downhill there..
03:12 Monkeh|Lap And electronics in the 90s
03:12 SparkyProjects Now it's a case of 'how small an amount of material can we get away with so we can make more profit'
03:13 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: There are very few people I know who still like to properly engineer things.
03:13 Monkeh|Lap .. one of them worked on the A380, so that's nice to know.
03:14 * wannabe1987 gives bananas to the monkeh
03:15 Monkeh|Lap Ah hell, best get some sleep
03:15 SparkyProjects There was a programme on 'how to build the a380', they do a hell of a lot of testing.
03:15 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Well, if you're ever on one and the generators die, give me a shout.
03:15 Monkeh|Lap I know the guy who designed 'em.
03:16 SparkyProjects Yeah, he can talk me though it on the phone :D
03:16 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Ahh, good at climbing out onto the wings in flight? ;D
03:17 SparkyProjects I'll find a way if my life depended on it :P
03:17 Monkeh|Lap Damn that's a hell of a mental image
03:17 Monkeh|Lap You hanging off the side of an A380's engine screaming down the phone at 300 knots.
03:17 SparkyProjects Dump the wing fuel and crawl through the tanks, those things are huge :P
03:18 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: You'll need something to breathe. :P
03:18 SparkyProjects :D
03:18 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Even dumped those things are full of rather nice vapours
03:18 SparkyProjects So, i'll get high :P
03:18 Monkeh|Lap No using a match to see!
03:19 Monkeh|Lap Right, I'd best get some sleep or my trip downstairs in the morning will consist of my falling over and going through the floor
03:23 SparkyProjects That's where i'm heading in a bit :)
03:25 SparkyProjects Damn, i was going to Hijack Santa, but he's already over America :P
03:25 SparkyProjects http://www.noradsanta.org/en/index.html#utm_campaign=en&amp;utm_medium=ha&amp;utm_source=en-ha-na-us-bk-gm&amp;utm_term=google%20santa%20tracker
03:25 BotSteve Title: NORAD Santa
03:27 wannabe1987 http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/funny-pictures-i-eat-soulz-but-i-also-liek-teh-cookiez.png
03:27 wannabe1987 better
03:27 wannabe1987 http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/funny-pictures-they-said-i-could-be-anything-so-i-became-a-cinnamon-bun.jpg  om nom nom :D
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03:31 wannabe1987 yay i killed chat with cats!
03:34 SparkyProjects I think more like the UK contingent are going to bed :P
03:34 SparkyProjects Goodnight :)
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03:35 wannabe1987 lol i figure
03:36 astro73|alice wannabe1987: those are awesome picks
03:36 wannabe1987 i knwo!
03:36 wannabe1987 know*
03:36 astro73|alice and I'm not chatting because i've got like 3 or 4 convos going at once
03:37 wannabe1987 ahhh
03:37 wannabe1987 how is your christmas season going?
03:38 astro73|alice hectic, but good.
03:39 astro73|alice the girl and i went to no less than 3 family events today
03:39 wannabe1987 damn
03:39 astro73|alice lowell, belding, and jenison
03:39 wannabe1987 o.O
03:39 wannabe1987 do you do them all in one day?!
03:44 * Katemonster lights pipe
03:45 astro73|alice wannabe1987: yes. Not for long in some of them, but yes
03:46 astro73|alice and i was surprised by gifts from the girl's families
03:46 wannabe1987 damn...ours are spread out between 3 days...
03:46 wannabe1987 what'd you get?
03:46 astro73|alice mostly candy/food
03:46 wannabe1987 ah.  why was it surprised then?
03:46 astro73|alice i wasn't expecting anything
03:47 wannabe1987 you're the boyfriend, of course you get something
03:47 astro73|alice i did get a game from her grandparents, but it has all the skill and depth of War
03:47 NeWtoz I'm just getting my vehicle worked on
03:47 NeWtoz which is really all I wanted
03:47 wannabe1987 i got that plus a book and a mug (starwars!) and eye shadow, and a gift card to meijer!
03:47 Katemonster i got ribs.
03:47 NeWtoz Oh, and the Lions to go to the playoffs!
03:48 NeWtoz woot
03:48 wannabe1987 llol best gift?
03:48 Katemonster i got the *best. ribs. ever.*
03:48 wannabe1987 o?
03:48 * Katemonster is full of rib
03:49 wannabe1987 i've never eaten ribs
03:49 astro73|alice wannabe1987: nice
03:49 wannabe1987 yep
03:49 Katemonster sadface.
03:49 astro73|alice Katemonster: that's epic
03:49 astro73|alice wannabe1987: WHAT.
03:49 wannabe1987 lol
03:49 wannabe1987 noones treated me.
03:49 astro73|alice ...
03:49 Katemonster some day.
03:49 wannabe1987 i normally date poor boys :P
03:49 Katemonster lol
03:49 astro73|alice your parents never had ribs growing up?
03:49 wannabe1987 nope....mom would hae it at a restaurant, but thats it
03:49 astro73|alice wtf
03:50 wannabe1987 my friend bought me my first wings at BWW
03:50 Katemonster they are difficult to do well
03:50 astro73|alice well or not, they're fun!
03:50 Katemonster but after much experimentation, we have it down
03:50 NeWtoz I've had ribs, but I've only ordered them once at a restaurant due to the price
03:50 NeWtoz and that was because it was an all you can eat ribs night
03:51 wannabe1987 fun? astro, fun?
03:51 Katemonster wal-mart (of all places) has these baby back racks that have like 5x as much meat on them as you'd expect on baby backs.
03:51 astro73|alice wannabe1987: it comes with sticks to hold the meat up with!
03:51 Katemonster we put them under the broiler to get all the fat off then stick them in the crock pot for a few hours, add the BBQ sauce in the last half hour
03:51 Katemonster and we made our own root beer BBQ sauce.
03:52 Katemonster ...i came.
03:52 NeWtoz TMI
03:52 Katemonster :D
03:53 astro73|alice Katemonster: that is awesome
03:53 wannabe1987 lol
03:53 wannabe1987 what, its awesome that she came?!  you sicko
03:53 astro73|alice root beer BBQ sauce? that sounds like something I need to try
03:53 astro73|alice wannabe1987: I am a dirty, dirty man.
03:54 wannabe1987 yes, i know...i've met you
03:54 NeWtoz It's really just a man thing
03:54 astro73|alice Did I let it out once? I thought I usually kept it reigned in.
03:54 wannabe1987 lol
03:55 astro73|alice my parents don't appreciate such things, so I have to keep an eye on it
03:55 Katemonster more specifically, this is the first time my mom has ever had ribs and said they were good.
03:55 Katemonster so, i am pleased.
03:55 wannabe1987 mine don't either...
03:55 astro73|alice Katemonster: Of course she did. She's never had ribs, so she has no basis for comparison
03:56 Katemonster ....
03:56 Katemonster i never said any such thing
03:56 astro73|alice you know that ribs are incomparible to any other food
03:57 Katemonster my mom has had ribs plenty of times
03:57 astro73|alice oh, i
03:57 astro73|alice i'm sorry, i misread you
03:57 Katemonster this is the first time she has said they were good.
03:57 Katemonster i should have typed more clearly.  i see the source of confusion now.
03:57 Hackbat :D
03:58 Hackbat My grandma gave me a Recordplayer
03:58 astro73|alice is that like the face/vase illusion
03:58 Katemonster she tries them always out of courtesy to whoever cooked, but generally dislikes them due to being gristly and having very little meat, and using shitty sauce
03:58 Katemonster yep
03:58 astro73|alice hackbat: family heirloom?
03:58 Katemonster hackbat, the correct term is "turntable"
03:59 Hackbat nah
03:59 Hackbat it's part of a 5 cd changer / tape deck
03:59 * CaptainNiobe agrees with KateMonster
03:59 Katemonster still a turntable :p
03:59 Hackbat GPX brand
03:59 Hackbat was talking to astro73|alice
03:59 Katemonster ohai ray.
03:59 Hackbat :P
03:59 Katemonster agree with me on what?
04:00 CaptainNiobe g'day kate :) how are you?
04:00 Katemonster full of rib.
04:00 CaptainNiobe the fact it's a turntable, not a record player :)
04:00 Cprossu finally back
04:00 astro73|alice hackbat, Ah, i see
04:00 Hackbat NOW!!!! I get to litsen to my dad's LPs
04:00 Hackbat we've got ARS
04:00 Hackbat which I have on right now
04:01 Hackbat ARS - A rock and roll alternative
04:01 Hackbat Turntables are expensive
04:01 Katemonster oh, and the only christmas music i have exposed myself to thus far is George Thorogood.  so that makes it a pretty good christmas
04:01 Hackbat so I'm glad I've got this one
04:02 Hackbat I've got Kansas - Leftoverture
04:02 CaptainNiobe i don't have the radio on... but i can just hear my next door neighbour's radio, so...
04:02 Hackbat <3 kansas
04:03 Katemonster niobe, that's what mortars were invented for.
04:03 Hackbat yeah build a sound wall from brick
04:03 CaptainNiobe HAHA! so far into the city, i think that would cause major legal problems! :D
04:03 astro73|alice just remember: What Would the Top Hat Guy Do?
04:04 Katemonster hackbat, i'm not sure you and i are thinking of the same kind of mortar.
04:04 Hackbat I know :P
04:04 Katemonster i want my own M224  :/
04:04 astro73|alice And I have the answer in this case: http://xkcd.com/368/
04:04 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Bass
04:05 Katemonster lol
04:08 astro73|alice and xkcd kills the chat
04:09 Cprossu it happens a lot
04:10 astro73|alice stick figures murding discourse? good to know
04:10 Cprossu almost as much as ponko killing chat
04:11 astro73|alice i thought that was just :NSFW
04:13 * CaptainNiobe keeps building massive tree farm in minecraft
04:14 astro73|alice easier than a real farm
04:15 CaptainNiobe i think so... a bit easier to get around to harvest it, that's for sure lol
04:16 astro73|alice i enjoy some of the stuff people come up with in minecraft
04:17 Hackbat yall don't make square wheatfarms?
04:17 * astro73|alice doesn't actually play himself
04:17 Hackbat ah
04:17 Hackbat I needs some jazz records
04:17 Hackbat and some classical
04:19 astro73|alice I just watch youtube videos sometimes
04:37 LemLap Katemonster, XM-28 and some rounds for it :-D
04:37 Katemonster blah
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04:37 LemLap you can't deny it would be fun to play with!
04:37 Katemonster rather just spend some quality time with Mother Deuce.
04:37 LemLap heh
04:37 LemLap true
04:38 LemLap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyAl9qK3Rlg <--- would be fun to try
04:38 BotSteve Title: High Impulse Weapon System - YouTube
04:40 wannabe1987 hi LemLap :)
04:40 lwq1996 hi kelly
04:40 wannabe1987 its a lee!  even better than a lem!
04:40 lwq1996 hey be nice :P
04:41 wannabe1987 what?  you're 9 hours away vs an ocean away
04:41 wannabe1987 :
04:41 wannabe1987 :P*
04:41 LemLap lo wannabe1987
04:41 wannabe1987 sup
04:44 LemLap not alot
04:44 LemLap enjoying xmas at my mums place
04:44 wannabe1987 thats nice
04:45 * wannabe1987 won't be singing tomorrow :'(
04:47 LemLap ...?
04:47 lwq1996 shes sick as fuck
04:48 wannabe1987 i have no voice
04:48 wannabe1987 tomorrow in church they sing the hallelujah chorus (my fav song) AND I CAN"T SING
04:52 LemLap aww
04:52 LemLap poor wannabe1987
04:53 wannabe1987 yeah, pretty much
04:53 wannabe1987 :/
04:54 masterofmonks wannabe1987: Just the chorus? Not the entire Messiah?
04:54 wannabe1987 i love it all...but we sing just the chorus
04:55 wannabe1987 sndwrx and i went to the whole thing
04:55 masterofmonks Really?
04:55 wannabe1987 mhm
05:00 wannabe1987 Merry Christmas!  (its now sunday)
05:01 egrsteve merry christmas all (EST)
05:01 wannabe1987 :)
05:01 egrsteve Merry Christmas to all and to all a resonably ok night
05:04 lwq1996 merry geekmas everyone
05:05 wannabe1987 lol
05:05 wannabe1987 geekmas
05:05 wannabe1987 i get to see *all* my cousins today :D
05:06 lwq1996 o.o you can fit that all into one house?
05:06 wannabe1987 ?
05:06 lwq1996 i assume you got a big family
05:06 wannabe1987 18 people!
05:07 lwq1996 thats big
05:07 astro73|alice yikes
05:07 astro73|alice i don't think i've ever had all my cousins together at once; too many different family branches
05:08 wannabe1987 18 is just one side....but my cousins live in cali for now....so we don't see them much
05:09 astro73|alice ...
05:09 astro73|alice :-o
05:09 wannabe1987 what?
05:09 astro73|alice that's a BIG family
05:09 wannabe1987 ok....dad has 2 brothers and they all have families....
05:10 astro73|alice big families
05:10 astro73|alice my dad has 3 sisters and 2 step brothers
05:10 wannabe1987 no, one brother has 2 kids, other has 3...
05:10 NeWtoz once I had all my cousins on my moms side in the same place. My grandmother had 6 kids
05:10 wannabe1987 dad has 5 kids, tho
05:10 astro73|alice and I have only 7 cousins
05:11 wannabe1987 o.O
05:11 astro73|alice oh, and 4 step-cousins, but they're new last year
05:11 wannabe1987 NeWtoz, sounds like a madhouse
05:11 NeWtoz it was for a reunion
05:11 wannabe1987 ahhhh
05:11 NeWtoz only one my family has ever had
05:12 NeWtoz my family doesn't really care about those though
05:12 wannabe1987 apparently
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05:13 wannabe1987 we are all going to one big house in st joe and hanging out for 5 days....i'll get sick of it eventually, thank god for the internet
05:13 wannabe1987 yay dredre!
05:13 NeWtoz all of my family as I was growing up were all at least 1.5 hours away
05:14 NeWtoz Most of them live in other states
05:14 wannabe1987 ahhh.  i have relatives in lakeview and rockford, jenison, hudsonville and then cali
05:15 astro73|alice let me think...
05:16 NeWtoz gladwin, beaverton, hudsonville, california, Wyoming (State)
05:16 NeWtoz oh, and Ohio
05:16 wannabe1987 ohio?  why ohio?!
05:16 astro73|alice all over rural west/central michigan, plus ME, MN, Seatle, Iowa (in transit), and CA
05:17 NeWtoz I dunno
05:17 astro73|alice HI
05:17 wannabe1987 hawaii?!
05:17 NeWtoz either that, or he is saying hi
05:17 astro73|alice one of my cousins is stationed there with the navy
05:17 wannabe1987 ooo
05:17 astro73|alice he's a language person
05:18 astro73|alice oh, and half the "in transit" family is living in france for a year
05:19 astro73|alice that's the family I can think of
05:19 wannabe1987 ah
05:19 astro73|alice oh! I forgot my dad's cousin that's in guatemala
05:19 astro73|alice iirc
05:20 astro73|alice and i think there might be a family in Alaska? IDK how close they are to me, though
05:20 wannabe1987 my parents relatives are everywhere...idk where tho
05:21 astro73|alice the first list is all my immediate family
05:22 wannabe1987 ahhh
05:22 astro73|alice most of my dad's side is in MI and my mom's side (or what's left of it) is in CA
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05:23 BotSteve TOASTY!
05:23 wannabe1987 hi :)
05:23 Toastdude Hello
05:23 wannabe1987 its a Toastdude!
05:23 astro73|alice so it is
05:24 Toastdude :D
05:26 wannabe1987 how was christmas today, toasty?
05:26 Toastdude It was good, yours?
05:27 wannabe1987 i stayed home alone today, sick.  i had christmas yesterday
05:27 lwq1996 toast today is what day of hanika
05:28 lwq1996 i cant spell
05:28 * lwq1996 is a fail
05:28 wannabe1987 its ok hun
05:29 wannabe1987 you're not a fail
05:29 Toastdude I think 6th
05:29 Toastdude Hanukkah
05:30 wannabe1987 even *i* didn't know the proper spelling, lwq1996
05:30 Toastdude And I forget every few days...
05:40 wannabe1987 what, how to spell it?
05:42 wannabe1987 LOOK!!! http://imgur.com/ieAqM  @ Toastdude on the cb!!!!!
05:42 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
05:43 wannabe1987 yes.  i did.  sorry dear!
05:43 Toastdude ......
05:43 wannabe1987 dotty, much?
05:43 wannabe1987 now we know your *true* identity!
05:44 Toastdude lol
05:44 JA12 next, we have to know where he lives? :P
05:44 wannabe1987 in IL :P
05:44 Toastdude Watch the 9-22 CB
05:44 wannabe1987 or that
05:44 wannabe1987 oooo i have REPO on this computer....
05:45 * wannabe1987 wonders how far her dr who torrent is.
05:45 wannabe1987 is dead mans chest the first POTC movie?
05:46 wannabe1987 there.  the list of botsteve commands is saved :D
05:46 Toastdude Black Pearl is
05:46 wannabe1987 ooo ok
05:46 wannabe1987 i don't have that one.....
05:46 LemLap later all, time to pack up and head home
05:46 wannabe1987 bye lem
05:46 wannabe1987 i'll watch dead mans chest
05:46 Toastdude Bye Lemming
05:47 wannabe1987 .bored
05:47 BotSteve Maybe you should...Annoy yourself
05:47 wannabe1987 i'm already annoyed at this sickness
05:47 Toastdude Mission Accomplished
05:47 wannabe1987 .bored
05:47 BotSteve Maybe you should...Fold your earlobes
05:47 wannabe1987 fold?
05:47 Toastdude Mission Accomplished
05:48 wannabe1987 .bored
05:48 BotSteve Maybe you should...Change it back
05:48 Toastdude lol
05:48 wannabe1987 lol
05:48 lwq1996 toast can you wriggle your ears
05:48 wannabe1987 i can.  i can also wiggle my nose like a bunnah
05:48 Toastdude Nope
05:48 lwq1996 lol
05:49 Toastdude But I can make my eyes go crazy...
05:49 wannabe1987 thats cuz you are crazy :P
05:49 lwq1996 i can move my eyes every which why on their own
05:50 wannabe1987 odd
05:50 Toastdude Lol
05:50 wannabe1987 i'm falling over
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05:51 wannabe1987 jess!  hi
05:51 KawaiiJess Ohai
05:51 lwq1996 why you falling over
05:51 Toastdude Why are you falling over?
05:51 Toastdude Jess!
05:51 wannabe1987 because my pillows were sliding off the headboard?
05:52 lwq1996 lol
05:52 Toastdude Well I don't know that!
05:52 KawaiiJess Hey Toastdude
05:52 wannabe1987 i hoep not, you're not here you're there!
05:55 Toastdude Are you sure? :P
05:56 wannabe1987 no
05:57 lwq1996 you know i like raw ham more than cooked ham
05:57 wannabe1987 ...
05:57 wannabe1987 odd
05:57 lwq1996 i like how its so juicy
05:57 lwq1996 and its got that taste unlike cooked
05:57 egrsteve can "raw" ham really be concidered raw?
05:58 lwq1996 well uncooked
05:58 wannabe1987 is it still oinking?
05:58 lwq1996 no -.-
05:59 wannabe1987 ok good
05:59 lwq1996 its just so much better to me
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05:59 egrsteve seening as ham is either cooked or cured when you purchase it
05:59 wannabe1987 i'm not judging you
06:01 lwq1996 well its not cooked fully but its cooked enough to kill the germs
06:01 wannabe1987 good!
06:01 Katemonster http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/4452/domeprogress.png
06:01 wannabe1987 o.o
06:01 Katemonster :D
06:01 wannabe1987 nice
06:02 lwq1996 ok call me stupid, but what is norad?
06:02 masterofmonks .wik norad
06:02 Toastdude I don't even know...
06:02 BotSteve "North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD, /ˈnɒræd/ norr-ad) is a joint organization of Canada and the United States that provides aerospace warning, air sovereignty, and defense for the two countries." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norad
06:02 egrsteve north atlantic radar
06:02 Toastdude OH, that's right..
06:02 egrsteve they track santa every year
06:03 egrsteve it's a funny story how it started too
06:03 wannabe1987 do tell
06:03 lwq1996 yeah i just found that out
06:03 egrsteve with a misprinted phone number in I belive a sears ad
06:03 astro73|alice Katemonster: what are you building???
06:03 egrsteve it saw a number to call "santa" on
06:03 Katemonster a huge glass dome.
06:04 Katemonster honestly i'm not sure of what i'm going to put inside yet :o
06:04 egrsteve in reality it was a typo and the number for NORAD operations command
06:04 wannabe1987 why kate?
06:04 astro73|alice whatever you want?
06:04 Katemonster lol
06:04 egrsteve they played along and have tracked santa sence
06:04 lwq1996 lol
06:04 astro73|alice wannabe1987: best not to ask that when minecrack is involved
06:04 wannabe1987 lol
06:04 wannabe1987 true
06:04 egrsteve it's all here http://www.noradsanta.org/en/whytrack.html
06:04 BotSteve Title: Why we track Santa – NORAD Santa
06:06 wannabe1987 "Why is the rum always gone?"  - captn jack sparrow
06:06 lwq1996 lol
06:08 wannabe1987 i started this scarf on monday afternoon and its almost done....6 days!  :P
06:13 Hackbat oh lord
06:13 Hackbat I love this place
06:13 wannabe1987 ?
06:13 Hackbat earth is awesome
06:13 Hackbat we have onion dip
06:14 Hackbat pineapple honey ham
06:14 Hackbat cheese
06:14 Hackbat vegatable platters
06:14 Hackbat I mean god how awesome is this place
06:14 wannabe1987 lol
06:15 Hackbat and lemon lime punch
06:15 Hackbat made with fucking gingerale
06:17 lwq1996 wannabe you sent me m&m cookies and what else type of cookie
06:17 wannabe1987 sugar
06:18 lwq1996 i was thinking that but i wasnt sure
06:18 wannabe1987 :)
06:18 wannabe1987 did you share w/ anyone but your sster?
06:18 lwq1996 not yet, but i will
06:18 lwq1996 there still are some
06:18 wannabe1987 ahhh ok
06:19 lwq1996 you make damn good sugar cookies thats for sure
06:19 wannabe1987 thanks :)
06:20 lwq1996 they are unlike anyones
06:20 wannabe1987 o?
06:21 lwq1996 im used to the crumbly soft ones, these ones are nice and chrispy
06:21 wannabe1987 ahhh
06:22 lwq1996 you could open your own bakery with how good they are
06:22 lwq1996 they are just so yummy
06:22 wannabe1987 need capital first
06:22 lwq1996 capital?
06:22 wannabe1987 i tried kickstarter, but they said it was the wrong kind of place to get funding
06:22 wannabe1987 money?  funding?
06:23 lwq1996 ah
06:23 lwq1996 -lee's term of the day- capital, funding
06:26 wannabe1987 glad i can help you learn :D
06:30 masterofmonks wannabe1987: Have you considered a small business loan?
06:30 wannabe1987 a bit
06:30 masterofmonks Yes I know you have bad credit.
06:30 masterofmonks But a business loan is more about having a viable plan than credit.
06:31 lwq1996 masterofmonks we need to have a geek term of the day
06:33 wannabe1987 there. scarf is finished :D
06:34 Coderjoe I suppose you could say I was given the Spanish Inquisition...
06:34 Coderjoe I was given something I was truely not expecting to get.
06:34 wannabe1987 o?
06:34 masterofmonks Herpes?
06:34 JA12 :)
06:34 Coderjoe four new-condition (unopened) HD-DVDs
06:34 NeWtoz SCURVY?
06:35 wannabe1987 new friends?  o wait.
06:35 wannabe1987 ooo
06:35 masterofmonks Coderjoe: Like the disks or the drives?
06:36 Coderjoe discs
06:36 Noise_Marine wait HD-DVDs who uses those O.o
06:36 lwq1996 blank?
06:36 Coderjoe movies
06:36 lwq1996 what movies did you get
06:36 masterofmonks So you can only play them in an Xbox 360?
06:37 Noise_Marine xbox doesnt sell the thing anymore
06:37 * lwq1996 is getting ready for bed
06:37 Coderjoe i can play them on my computer, I have the 360 drive
06:37 wannabe1987 ewwww he's stripping
06:37 wannabe1987 :P
06:37 * lwq1996 doesnt care who watches
06:38 lwq1996 its just another part that boys have
06:38 NeWtoz OMG PENIS!
06:38 Noise_Marine lmao
06:38 * lwq1996 facepalm
06:39 wannabe1987 lol
06:39 lwq1996 havent heard a word from newtoz all night and he says that
06:39 NeWtoz :)
06:39 lwq1996 i got new pj bottoms
06:39 masterofmonks That's not a knife...
06:39 Coderjoe my uncle gave this to my dad: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002CC1ARQ
06:39 wannabe1987 ooo
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06:39 Coderjoe BotSteve: shush
06:39 lwq1996 they are fuzzy
06:40 lwq1996 i know one thing im getting because my dad helped me pick it out because my sister got to pic something out
06:41 Coderjoe I'm a weirdo that collects old media. I still pick up 16mm film from time to time, and still get the occasional laserdisc and vinyl record
06:41 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | The name's Bond...Ionic Bond.  Taken, not shared. | Word of the day: Zatetic
06:41 lwq1996 i have never heard of a laser disk till the captains blog
06:41 wannabe1987 fuzzy wuzzy was a lee!
06:42 lwq1996 this is all i need for christmas, new jammies and friends
06:42 masterofmonks I actially watched a spider man movie on laser disc when I was a kid.
06:42 wannabe1987 and tools
06:42 lwq1996 i dont need them but they are nice
06:43 wannabe1987 true :)
06:43 lwq1996 they are craftsman
06:43 masterofmonks lwq1996: next you need a welder.
06:43 lwq1996 yeah, and a air compressor and impact ratchet
06:43 NeWtoz go go lifetime warranties
06:43 masterofmonks All can be had for under $250
06:44 lwq1996 yeah
06:44 lwq1996 i can get a little evolv/craftsman aircompressor for 80
06:44 wannabe1987 purple or pink?
06:44 masterofmonks I am actually quite pleased with my harbor freight welder.
06:44 Coderjoe lwq1996: that was actually not a laserdisc. that was a CVD, which uses a needle like a record.
06:44 wannabe1987 coo
06:44 wannabe1987 l
06:44 lwq1996 oh
06:45 masterofmonks The wire that came with it is a bit crappy, but for $109 I can't complain much.
06:45 lwq1996 if im getting any type of welder its going to be a miller or lincon
06:45 masterofmonks lwq1996: don't be sold on brand names.
06:45 * Toastdude leaves
06:46 wannabe1987 awww
06:46 masterofmonks I have seen some really shitty millers and lincoln wleders.
06:46 wannabe1987 bye warmed over bread
06:46 wannabe1987 ttul :)
06:46 lwq1996 my dad has an old industrial lincon welder that has survived since the 1940
06:46 Toastdude Bye fake person (wannabe)
06:46 Toastdude :P
06:46 Coderjoe laserdiscs don't come in a cartridge like the one Chris showed
06:46 wannabe1987 lol
06:47 masterofmonks Sure, but you can spend $2000+ on an industrial machine, that will weld half inch plate, and never weld anything thicker than quarter.
06:48 Coderjoe also, even though laserdiscs use a laser to read the disc, the data isn't digital. it is actually an analog copy of a really clean composite video signal
06:48 lwq1996 lol my dad does alot of half inch
06:48 masterofmonks Not saying it's impossible, just saying don't buy more than you need starting out.
06:49 masterofmonks If you burn up a $100 machine you hurt less than if you burn up a $2000 machine.
06:49 lwq1996 my dad really needed it because any machine he has ever worked on that is like a log skidder is half inch
06:49 Coderjoe the only thing digital on a laserdisc is an optional modulated audio track
06:49 lwq1996 hes tiped it over, i dont think it is possible to hurt it
06:50 masterofmonks I have watched torches melt, transformers over heat, etc on these machines.
06:50 lwq1996 i know you can get a cheap one that will last a life time with wonders but you dont know what your getting
06:51 wannabe1987 <@masterofmonks> I have seen some really shitty millers and lincoln wleders.
06:51 lwq1996 if you want to take a look at the welder i can pull it up and you will laugh when you see it because its overly done
06:52 masterofmonks I work in fabrication, we have at least 40 welders going all at once.
06:53 masterofmonks Which is a different situation than say a mechanic's shop where the welding machine isn't going to see at least eight hours of use every week day 51 weeks of the year.
06:54 wannabe1987 mhm
06:55 lwq1996 lol
06:55 masterofmonks Yes, we use all miller machines at work. But not because they are outstanding quality, we do it because the initial cost is less than better machines, and the parts are standardized.
06:56 lwq1996 thats almost the same welder my dad has http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;sa=X&amp;biw=1366&amp;bih=667&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbnid=Y9zNoR5sMR6ADM:&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.tennesseequipment.com/Midwest-/Illinois-/Agencies-/2002-lincoln-sae-400-diesel-welder-on-trailer.pl&amp;docid=7KtNc5dnlwKgvM&amp;imgurl=http://www.tennesseequipment.com/Midwest-/Illinois-/Agencies-/2002-lincoln-sae-400-diesel-welder-on-trailer-pix-1.jpg&amp;w=400&amp;h=300&amp;ei
06:57 wannabe1987 mmmm chocolate chips
06:57 masterofmonks Yeah, you don't need that.
06:58 masterofmonks Think about it like this.
06:58 lwq1996 it may be big but will you ever need to do I-beam work
06:58 lwq1996 no
06:59 Coderjoe welding bridges with the road construction crews?
06:59 lwq1996 thats what it was used for
06:59 masterofmonks The harbor freight machine may not have an outstanding life time, but if you can't make the money with it to buy the upgrade to it ten times over by the time it burns out you are doing something wrong.
06:59 lwq1996 no my dad doesnt though
07:00 lwq1996 yeah
07:00 Coderjoe that only works if you are using it in some form of income-producing endeavor
07:01 Noise_Marine mmm is it weird that i use a X-acto knife to cut the wrapping paper for my gifts......
07:01 masterofmonks I fail to see how anything you do with it could not be income producing.
07:01 wannabe1987 Noise_Marine, no
07:02 lwq1996 the only thing that he had to fix/ put into it was a radiator and a cart to haul it on
07:03 Noise_Marine good because my family is looking at me weird lol
07:03 masterofmonks The other thing is I can take my little welder, throw it in the trunk of a car and weld off of just about anybody's regular house outlet.
07:03 wannabe1987 Noise_Marine, i'm sure boden would use his gerber if he could...
07:03 wannabe1987 families are good at that...looking at people oddly
07:03 masterofmonks I use my pocket knife...
07:03 lwq1996 my dad wants a little tig or mig that will do that because its a bitch to hitch up
07:04 masterofmonks If he's welding outside a flux core is better than mig.
07:04 lwq1996 if your a geek your going to get looks when you do something the easy way
07:04 lwq1996 tig is the one with the argon gas right?
07:04 masterofmonks Mig is also.
07:05 lwq1996 which one welds better and doesnt splatter
07:05 masterofmonks Tig.
07:05 lwq1996 ok
07:05 wannabe1987 whats the difference?
07:05 masterofmonks But if you are outside the wend can blow your shielding gas and seriously fuck your weld up.
07:05 masterofmonks wind*
07:05 lwq1996 yeah ik
07:06 masterofmonks Which is why stick or flux core is recommended for welding out side.
07:06 lwq1996 wannabe one uses a flux core one uses a gas
07:06 wannabe1987 flux core?
07:06 masterofmonks well more than that.
07:07 masterofmonks Ok, wannabe1987 You have seen flux corfe solder before?
07:07 lwq1996 ronsin core
07:07 wannabe1987 i've never seen a solder
07:08 masterofmonks Ok, here is the deal when you heat metal up to the point that it onds to another like metal, it also rapidly oxidizes.
07:08 masterofmonks To prevent that you need a shield.
07:08 masterofmonks There are two types of shield, a gas shield and flux.
07:08 wannabe1987 ok
07:09 masterofmonks Stick amd flux core are flux based, the flux behaves like a liquid and floats to the surface of the weld leaving the pristine weld beneath, this has to be chipped off later however.
07:10 wannabe1987 soulnds annoying
07:10 Noise_Marine mmm note to self remember where you put the knife so you dont sit on it.....
07:10 lwq1996 not really
07:10 lwq1996 just need a chipping hammer
07:10 masterofmonks With mig and tig, you are using a gas shield, often argon, or an argon carbon dioxide mix.
07:10 wannabe1987 Noise_Marine:  ow
07:10 lwq1996 lol
07:11 lwq1996 ok masterofmonks whats the diff between mig and tig?
07:11 masterofmonks Since argon is a noble gas and non-reactive along with the fact it is heavier than oxygen it makes a perfect shield.
07:11 masterofmonks With tig you use a fillet rod and and electrode torch.
07:12 lwq1996 other a wire feed?
07:12 masterofmonks And with mig your fillet is also your electrode.
07:12 masterofmonks Yes, mig is a wire feed welder.
07:12 lwq1996 i see now
07:12 wannabe1987 i have heard of that
07:13 lwq1996 what does mig and tig stand for
07:13 wannabe1987 ow.  coughing hurts
07:13 masterofmonks Tig is Tungsten Inert Gas.
07:14 masterofmonks Mig is Metal Inert Gas.
07:14 lwq1996 i see
07:15 dr_jkl SPRINGTIME
07:15 dr_jkl FOR HITLER
07:15 dr_jkl IN GERMANY
07:15 masterofmonks And randomness from dr_jkl.
07:15 dr_jkl it's a classic showtune1
07:16 * dr_jkl may be a bit merry.
07:16 masterofmonks Here have some popins go go with that.
07:17 dr_jkl no matter who you are or where you are or what you do or don't believe in, make tonight an AWESOME night :)
07:17 masterofmonks For someone who is not welding professionally either stick or wire feed is the way to go.
07:17 lwq1996 ok
07:18 masterofmonks Mostly due to the low initial cost, and learnign curve.
07:18 lwq1996 my dad let me do some arc welding with his lincoln once and i didnt do quite bad for a newb
07:18 * wannabe1987 went through her yarn stores and found lots of stuff to be balled ...
07:18 lwq1996 lol
07:19 wannabe1987 its ok...theres an hour left in my movie
07:19 lwq1996 what movie?
07:19 Coderjoe heh
07:19 masterofmonks My actual time behind a hood is less than my time around welding so my actual beads tend to be gorilla welds.
07:19 Coderjoe I used my gerber to cut tape on gifts tonight
07:20 lwq1996 which is better bead welding or line welding
07:20 wannabe1987 lol
07:20 Coderjoe kinda surprised my uncle when I snapped it open one handed
07:21 lwq1996 took him back to his war days with their switch blades and such!
07:21 lwq1996 lol jk
07:21 masterofmonks lwq1996: I am not sure what you mean.
07:22 lwq1996 which is better, doing bead when welding, or just doing a straight line
07:22 lwq1996 or is it more or less for show?
07:23 masterofmonks Are you talking about fusing the metal without fillet?
07:23 masterofmonks Or are you talking about the ridges in a weld?
07:24 lwq1996 when you do beads you stop and move and stop and move, but when doing a straight line you take it at a steady pace and make it look more even
07:24 masterofmonks Ah.
07:26 lwq1996 structually which is better
07:26 masterofmonks Ok, you need to maintain a steady pace, ot maintaintain the width and depth of your weld pool.
07:27 masterofmonks Now, how far you can maintain that pace is a matter of ability and practice.
07:27 lwq1996 ok
07:27 masterofmonks Ideally the fewer starts and stops you have the better since it uses more rod and power to start off with your weld again.
07:27 lwq1996 because the way it looks on bikes it looks like the did beads at a time
07:28 masterofmonks Most bikes are welded my a robot.
07:28 lwq1996 ah
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07:28 lwq1996 its good to keep the pool moving and melted than to keep melting it and cooling it
07:31 masterofmonks Well if you stay in one place too long you will melt a hole in your metal, and that is not structurally good.
07:31 lwq1996 yeah
07:31 lwq1996 and you have the pain in the ass of filling the hole
07:32 lwq1996 you know the welder i showed you that my dad has, he welded standard exauhast pipe with it
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07:33 lwq1996 its the only thing he had at the time or he would of used his brassing tip and cutting tourches
07:33 masterofmonks Nice to know that it goes that cool.
07:34 masterofmonks Two hot and you'll just blow through your piece.
07:34 lwq1996 barely did. blew one hole in it
07:34 lwq1996 he filled it though
07:34 lwq1996 tell you it takes damn practice to do it
07:35 masterofmonks That is the other problem with big welders.
07:35 masterofmonks They are often not granular enough for light welding.
07:35 lwq1996 the dont go down low enough to do little work like aluminum
07:35 masterofmonks "little work" ROFL
07:35 lwq1996 light*
07:36 masterofmonks Wait until you see some of the aluminum I work with.
07:36 lwq1996 i mean like what he did with body panels and exhaust
07:36 lwq1996 lol i forgot to enthisise what i ment
07:36 masterofmonks http://www.rdsaluminum.com/images/tank-test_c3.jpg
07:37 masterofmonks That right there is a 250 gallon tank bade of 3/16 inch aluminum.
07:37 masterofmonks made*
07:37 lwq1996 yeah thats not little
07:38 masterofmonks We regularly make tanks out of 1/4 inch, I have seen 3/8 and 1/2 inch.
07:38 lwq1996 damn
07:39 masterofmonks Hell Thursday tyhe last tank I did before we went on vacation was a 506 gallon tank made of 1/4
07:39 lwq1996 o.o
07:40 masterofmonks That is not the largest tank I have seen.
07:41 lwq1996 1000gal tanks made out of 3/4 in?
07:41 masterofmonks No, 1000 are generally made of 1/4
07:42 lwq1996 oh
07:42 masterofmonks Those are usually coast guard certified tanks that are pressure tested at 5psi for 100 minutes.
07:43 lwq1996 why only 5psi?
07:43 masterofmonks Trust me 5psi is a lot.
07:43 lwq1996 ok
07:43 lwq1996 well i guess it is for tanks
07:44 masterofmonks When you are dealing with 1000 gallons of volume, 5psi is enough to blow a plug half way through you.
07:44 lwq1996 i bet
07:44 lwq1996 holy shit its almost 3
07:45 masterofmonks Yes, yes it is.
07:45 masterofmonks Go to bed lee, have fun tomorrow.
07:45 lwq1996 lol
07:46 lwq1996 ok mom
07:46 wannabe1987 lol
07:46 wannabe1987 hey, i've now been up for 12 hours! :P
07:46 egrsteve night all
07:46 lwq1996 have a very nice merry christmas or what ever religion you are
07:46 JA12 welding religion
07:46 lwq1996 lol
07:47 wannabe1987 lol
07:47 JA12 have a hawt christmas and gaseous new years eve
07:47 lwq1996 do we worship the all mighty arc?
07:47 JA12 =)
07:47 wannabe1987 hi JA12
07:47 masterofmonks I believe that there was a tesla viseo a while back...
07:48 JA12 hi wannabe1987, still awake
07:48 Coderjoe may your joints be clean and deep
07:48 wannabe1987 yeah, for a bit
07:50 wannabe1987 gah.  i still have to get up at 8....
07:51 wannabe1987 better than 7 tho....
07:51 JA12 what the... why?
07:51 wannabe1987 church
07:51 JA12 oh
07:52 JA12 still sick or did you tell it to take a hike?
07:52 lwq1996 i really need to get to beed:/
07:52 wannabe1987 still sick
07:52 wannabe1987 go to bed lee!  we can talk later
07:52 lwq1996 lol
07:52 wannabe1987 but i don't need to be at church sunday at 8:30, cuz i'm not singing anymore...
07:52 lwq1996 merry christmas everyone
07:53 wannabe1987 merry christmas lee!
07:53 lwq1996 talk to you guys tomorrow hopefully if im not to busy
07:53 wannabe1987 same
07:57 wannabe1987 "where is the thump thump"  cptn jack sparrow
08:00 masterofmonks wannabe1987: http://imgur.com/r/pics/UNTK3
08:00 BotSteve Title: Release the.. - Imgur
08:00 wannabe1987 lol
08:01 wannabe1987 one of my ipods external speakers is shot :(
08:01 wannabe1987 i have speakers that plug into an audio port
08:01 wannabe1987 and one is borked :/
08:03 masterofmonks wannabe1987: http://i.imgur.com/YCOxb.gif
08:03 wannabe1987 wtf
08:04 masterofmonks I thought of you when I saw that.
08:04 wannabe1987 thanks?
08:04 JA12 .... :D
08:06 wannabe1987 not quite sure what to say to that, masterofmonks
08:07 JA12 that's how I feel (and propably look) right now. before the santa comes and does his magic, that is
08:07 wannabe1987 i would say "you can't look that bad" but you've been sitting in front of the computer all night and you been smoking :P
08:07 JA12 "meh"
08:10 JA12 I don't do those things at the same time though, I go outsite to smoke :) and what do you mean "bad", that was a very beautiful artiodactyl :P
08:11 wannabe1987 yes, and your outside is normally snowyer than ours
08:12 wannabe1987 .cookie BotSteve
08:12 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *om nom nom*
08:13 JA12 outside* .... somehow I know I've been up all night
08:13 JA12 more coffee!
08:13 wannabe1987 lol
08:15 wannabe1987 always the answer
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08:24 wannabe1987 alright, movie is done, most yar n is untangled, gonna go sleep now....night!
08:25 LemPhone night wannabe
08:25 JA12 night wannabe1987
08:28 JA12 I'm off too. something tells me that my christmas visit is over very soon...
08:28 JA12 bye
08:28 wannabe1987 uh oh.  take care
08:28 wannabe1987 bye
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09:11 killawayZZzz merry xmas everyone
09:11 NeWtoz Happy Holidays
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10:12 sndwrx Looks like Santa is on his way back up north.
10:13 sndwrx http://www.noradsanta.org/en/
10:13 BotSteve Title: NORAD Santa
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12:00 NeWtoz Time for me to head to bed
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12:40 roadran422 Good morning from Florida! Merry Christmas!
12:40 roadran422 Who's on?
12:41 roadran422 .cookie cprossu
12:41 BotSteve Here you go, cprossu, I baked you an almond cookie!
12:41 roadran422 .skittle botsteve
12:42 roadran422 .cookie botsteve
12:42 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  *om nom nom*
12:42 roadran422 .skittle roadran422
12:44 roadran422 No one's on? I'm talking to myself? -_-
12:45 roadran422 .g Zatetic
12:45 BotSteve roadran422: http://www.zatetic.com/
12:45 roadran422 .ety Zatetic
12:45 BotSteve Can't find the etymology for "Zatetic". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=Zatetic
12:45 roadran422 .ud Zatetic
12:45 BotSteve roadran422: No results found for 'Zatetic'.
12:45 roadran422 .tfw 34208
12:45 BotSteve 63°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Bradenton, FL!  'It could be worse.'
12:45 roadran422 .tfw 34203
12:45 BotSteve 63°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Bradenton, FL!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
12:45 roadran422 ,wiki Zatetic
12:45 roadran422 .wiki Zatetic
12:45 BotSteve Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Zatetic".
12:46 roadran422 .ety Zetetic
12:46 BotSteve Can't find the etymology for "None". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=None
12:46 roadran422 .ety Zetetic
12:46 BotSteve "'proceeding by inquiry,' 1640s, from Mod.L. zeteticus, from Gk. zetetikos 'searching, inquiring,' from zetetos, verbal adj. of zetein 'seek for, inquire into.'" - http://etymonline.com/?term=Zetetic
12:46 roadran422 .ety botsteve
12:46 BotSteve Can't find the etymology for "botsteve". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=botsteve
12:46 roadran422 .ety tgg
12:46 BotSteve Can't find the etymology for "tgg". Try http://etymonline.com/?search=tgg
12:46 roadran422 .ety thee
12:46 BotSteve "O.E. þe (accusative and dative singular of þu 'thou'), from P.Gmc. *theke (cf. O.Fris. thi, M.Du. di, O.H.G. dih, Ger. dich, O.N. þik, Norw. deg, Goth. þuk), from PIE *tege-." - http://etymonline.com/?term=thee
12:46 roadran422 .ety pi
12:46 BotSteve "1841, used in L. 1748 by Swiss mathematician Leonhart Euler (1707-83), from Gk. letter pi (from Heb., lit. 'little mouth') as an abbreviation of Gk. periphereia 'periphery.' For the meaning 'printer's term for mixed type,' see pie (3)." - http://etymonline.com/?term=pi
12:46 roadran422 22/7 =pi
12:48 roadran422 .bug
12:48 BotSteve To report website bugs, email:  helpdesk at thegeekgroup dot org
12:48 BotSteve To report website bugs, email:  helpdesk at thegeekgroup dot org
12:48 roadran422 .bug
12:48 BotSteve To report website bugs, email:  helpdesk at thegeekgroup dot org
12:51 roadran422 .c 22/7
12:51 BotSteve 3.14285714
12:53 roadran422 .c x=5=8
12:53 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
12:53 roadran422 .c botsteve
12:53 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
12:58 CaptainNiobe lol... having fun testing BotSteve, are we, roadran422? :P
13:06 Experimentonomen stop abusing the bot!
13:09 roadran422 Hello!
13:09 roadran422 Hahahaha
13:09 roadran422 The bot is fun :)
13:09 CaptainNiobe :)
13:09 roadran422 .cookie CaptainNiobe
13:09 BotSteve Here you go, CaptainNiobe, I baked you a bacon cookie!
13:10 roadran422 Lol
13:10 CaptainNiobe he seems to be having a little trouble atm though
13:10 roadran422 Hahahaha
13:10 CaptainNiobe let's see...
13:10 CaptainNiobe .seen CaptainNiobe
13:10 BotSteve CaptainNiobe: I last saw CaptainNiobe 0.00 hours ago at 2011-12-25 13:10:13 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 13:10:24 UTC
13:10 BotSteve CaptainNiobe: I last saw CaptainNiobe|AFK 46.58 hours ago at 2011-12-23 14:35:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
13:10 roadran422 Here's a funny one
13:10 roadran422 .bing
13:10 BotSteve AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'startswith' (file "/home/steve/src/hg/tgg/hg-botsteve/modules/search.py", line 176, in bing)
13:10 CaptainNiobe oh, ok, that worked
13:10 roadran422 Lol
13:10 roadran422 .bing test
13:10 BotSteve roadran422: http://0.r.msn.com/?ld=4viDx9kkmigmvNapsTBvz4yF1rFdpBqcZgIIN3NvEEyQA8MVQ5iP97SPe5gF5k6t1Z68L_XUE-vvAT0GA_fdTaZ3n-2wjx8O5zLOcfVhC7xzs4vEpiObEsdNtcnXdpiHLdtctuDQATMTcnH_Swa0Zw-BbACz_G0HC0WxF16XqDvbPRZiktCXitiKZbnVMI9ZQTzc7HcXIifWLg9pO0S2ThpRPr-gDfnlzPfiPa7qkNf6NbIiI4AKggn1ykJJqqsLmNg8RCTg0MTdLtnVvwmHSG_6lEISQQJmNzPf2vNNePOM0hx_ie4F23E0SFAQ5_xYxVkEjP2TUQY9g1
13:11 roadran422 Bing works and sorta doesn't lol
13:11 * Experimentonomen listens to hardstyle
13:11 * roadran422 waiting for 12 to open presents at my uncles house
13:11 roadran422 *till
13:11 CaptainNiobe i'm not sure what's programmed in correctly... but here, laugh at this if you haven't done it already:
13:12 roadran422 ...
13:12 CaptainNiobe i think this will work...
13:12 CaptainNiobe .insult roadran422
13:12 BotSteve Hey, CaptainNiobe, I would have been your father, but the other guy had exact change.
13:12 roadran422 xD it insults you lol
13:12 CaptainNiobe not quite lol
13:12 CaptainNiobe just use .insult
13:12 roadran422 .insult
13:12 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, your mom is so fat, fat people run around her for exercise.
13:12 roadran422 .insult CaptainNiobe
13:12 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, don't feel bad, I think your poor self-image is *completely* justified.
13:13 roadran422 :P
13:13 CaptainNiobe :P
13:13 roadran422 lol
13:13 roadran422 .seen cprossu
13:13 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw Cprossu 9.05 hours ago at 2011-12-25 04:10:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 13:13:19 UTC
13:13 CaptainNiobe anyone know how many insults botsteve has to pick from?
13:13 roadran422 No... let's try!
13:13 roadran422 .insult
13:13 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, your mom is so fat, fat people run around her for exercise.
13:13 roadran422 .insult
13:13 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, your mom is so old, she farts dust.
13:13 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, after talking to you, I now understand why animals eat their young.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, I would have been your father, but the other guy had exact change.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, I would have been your father, but the other guy had exact change.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, I would have been your father, but the other guy had exact change.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, don't feel bad, I think your poor self-image is *completely* justified.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, don't feel bad, I think your poor self-image is *completely* justified.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, your mom is so fat, fat people run around her for exercise.
13:14 CaptainNiobe don't break him... lol
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, how many different kinds of stupid are you trying to be?
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, don't feel bad, I think your poor self-image is *completely* justified.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, if you keep that up, I'll rip your arm off and beat you with the wet end.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, after talking to you, I now understand why animals eat their young.
13:14 CaptainNiobe battie won't be happy
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, I would have been your father, but the other guy had exact change.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, I would have been your father, but the other guy had exact change.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, if you keep that up, I'll rip your arm off and beat you with the wet end.
13:14 roadran422 .insult
13:14 BotSteve Hey, roadran422, your mom is so old, she farts dust.
13:14 Experimentonomen kick him!!! :P
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13:14 roadran422 Lol who's battie xD
13:14 CaptainNiobe roadran422, careful
13:14 SuperPhosphate Hello
13:14 roadran422 Hi!
13:14 CaptainNiobe battie is BatSteve, BotSteve's programmer
13:14 roadran422 Oh.... -_-
13:14 Experimentonomen g'day phosphate
13:14 CaptainNiobe and hi SuperPhosphate :D
13:15 roadran422 Is BatSteve isn't here lol
13:15 SuperPhosphate Hi everyone
13:15 roadran422 I won't crash him xD
13:15 roadran422 Merry Christmas to the Americans xD
13:15 CaptainNiobe no,  so if you break him someone's gonna have to get him lol
13:15 roadran422 Lol
13:15 roadran422 x_-
13:15 SuperPhosphate Merry Christmas to people with at least 2 toes :)
13:15 roadran422 *_*
13:16 CaptainNiobe I HAVE 10 TOES! :P
13:16 roadran422 @_@ ?_?
13:16 roadran422 Lol
13:16 SuperPhosphate Then you are included!!!
13:16 CaptainNiobe merry christmas, SuperPhosphate! *hugs*
13:16 Experimentonomen roadran422, how old are you ? you act like a 10 yars old
13:16 roadran422 14 :P
13:16 SuperPhosphate I am missing out on Christmas today!
13:16 roadran422 That's nice. :P
13:17 roadran422 Experimentonomen: That's nice :P
13:17 CaptainNiobe don't worry, i'm 31 and he said i was like a child when i was in a playful mood :P
13:17 roadran422 Hahahaha
13:17 roadran422 Us americans have the "QWERTY" keyboard. What do you guys have?
13:17 CaptainNiobe qwerty :P
13:18 roadran422 -_- lol thought it be different
13:18 SuperPhosphate Qwerty
13:18 roadran422 ok then lol
13:18 CaptainNiobe most things like that are pretty universal
13:19 SuperPhosphate Im sick today
13:19 roadran422 Ouch
13:19 CaptainNiobe aww... how come, super?
13:19 SuperPhosphate So Im missing out on Christmas dinner :(
13:19 roadran422 Oh.. :(
13:19 SuperPhosphate Just a stupid cold
13:19 CaptainNiobe aww, that sucks...
13:19 roadran422 Take some apsrin, or robutussin or tylenol
13:19 SuperPhosphate but enought to make me feel terrible
13:19 roadran422 Or Alergie medicine...
13:20 CaptainNiobe got any cold & flu meds?
13:20 SuperPhosphate I'll see if I can be bothered. At least it is not a man cold!!
13:20 roadran422 Lol, taking meds make bacteria super-bacteria making them super-resistive... So....
13:20 roadran422 Idk...
13:20 roadran422 Mutating bacterias! :)
13:20 roadran422 :-D
13:21 CaptainNiobe i take those meds to feel bettrer, not to fight the virus
13:21 roadran422 True.....
13:21 roadran422 I feel sick! 1 bottle of tylenol! xD
13:21 SuperPhosphate I have had 2 hot chocolates with cream and they helped for 10 minutes
13:22 roadran422 Ok... Try drinking a monster then...
13:22 roadran422 Energy keeps you up... lol
13:22 SuperPhosphate Ah well thats life
13:22 CaptainNiobe try lemon and honey drinks? they don't help much with feeling better, but they do sooth the throat, and taste deliscious...
13:22 SuperPhosphate Im just feeling sorry for myself
13:22 roadran422 Tell wannabe that she has a sore throat xD
13:22 SuperPhosphate mm I do have some lemons and honey!!
13:23 roadran422 SuperPhosphate, what did you get for christmas?
13:23 CaptainNiobe get hubby to make one for you :P
13:23 roadran422 Lol
13:24 roadran422 .ud hubby
13:24 BotSteve roadran422: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=hubby
13:24 CaptainNiobe it's short for husband
13:24 roadran422 Oh! SuperPhosphate is woman.
13:24 roadran422 xD
13:24 CaptainNiobe yup :)
13:24 roadran422 That means I am the only male on then.... xD
13:24 SuperPhosphate We don't do presents at Christmas here in the Netherlands
13:25 CaptainNiobe O.O
13:25 roadran422 Oh....
13:25 SuperPhosphate we do them on the 5th of December
13:25 roadran422 No Fair -_- lol
13:25 roadran422 That's cool
13:25 CaptainNiobe oh... is it called christmas then?
13:25 SuperPhosphate and I got .. um what did I buy myself
13:25 roadran422 ...What did you buy your self xD
13:25 SuperPhosphate nope its called St Nicholas
13:25 CaptainNiobe ahh
13:25 roadran422 True... I did a mini project on it
13:26 SuperPhosphate We have Christmas too, just not with the presents
13:26 SuperPhosphate and we can stuff ourselves too
13:26 SuperPhosphate Um I cant remember what I got myself for a present
13:26 roadran422 Lol
13:27 SuperPhosphate what did you guys get?
13:27 CaptainNiobe i just had a quiet one... as usual... though i expect next year will be different... :)
13:27 roadran422 Ik I am getting 40$ membership, a t-shirt, and a 20 dollar casio watch.
13:27 roadran422 *membership for game
13:27 SuperPhosphate wow
13:27 roadran422 Thing is my aunt made me buy the shirt. But I refuse what so ever to wear clothing from Aeropstale, Hollister, Pac Sun or anything like that.
13:28 CaptainNiobe oh, i know what i got for christmas... a boyfriend... LOL!!! :D
13:28 roadran422 Just because it has a "Name Brand" on it doesn't make it neccesarely populat, for clothing at least.
13:28 SuperPhosphate really CaptainNiobe=
13:28 roadran422 Lol
13:28 roadran422 I made a girl pissed at me....
13:28 CaptainNiobe lol... yup... lol...
13:28 SuperPhosphate cool, whgats his name?
13:29 roadran422 Yesterday wasn't really a good day... Made this girl quite pissed :P
13:29 roadran422 :(
13:29 CaptainNiobe no can say atm unfortunately...
13:29 SuperPhosphate oh ok
13:29 roadran422 So...
13:29 SuperPhosphate so is he cool
13:29 CaptainNiobe he doesn't want to be identified at this point
13:29 roadran422 LOl
13:29 roadran422 Lol, no one can tell who he is on here.....
13:29 roadran422 Idk your real name Captain
13:29 CaptainNiobe but he's very sweet... :)
13:29 roadran422 lol
13:30 roadran422 When you said you got one for christmas..... Was he wrapped up or did he ask you out? o_O
13:30 CaptainNiobe roadran422, my real name is rachael... what's yours? :P
13:30 roadran422 Hy...
13:30 roadran422 Pronounced He
13:30 CaptainNiobe oh, wow... unusual one :) thank you
13:30 roadran422 Lol xD
13:31 SuperPhosphate My name is Michelle
13:31 roadran422 If you watched the one before the new captain's blog.... Then ya...
13:33 roadran422 ...
13:33 CaptainNiobe ?
13:33 roadran422 Idk....
13:33 roadran422 xD
13:33 CaptainNiobe lol
13:34 roadran422 .jargon
13:34 BotSteve roadran422: Sorry, you need to enter something to define
13:34 roadran422 .jargon crap
13:34 BotSteve roadran422: http://catb.org/jargon/html/S/Sturgeons-Law.html
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14:04 Roadran422|AwayC Hi KB3NZQ
14:04 Roadran422|AwayC I'm not typing the whole name...
14:09 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV morrning Roadran422|AwayC
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14:16 Roadran422|AwayC Lol
14:18 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV ping
14:19 Roadran422 Ping who?
14:19 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV Roadran422 all you have to to is start to type the nick and then press tab
14:19 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV i thought i would time out
14:19 Roadran422 ...
14:20 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV when you said hi to me
14:20 Roadran422 Roadran422: Oh I get it now lol
14:20 Roadran422 lol
14:20 Roadran422 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV: Hi
14:21 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV the ping was casue my wireless dropped for a sec and i thought i would time out so i said ping and you would say pong
14:21 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV hello again
14:21 Roadran422 Lol
14:21 Roadran422 Pong
14:21 Roadran422 Idk... I'm 14 and ya...
14:22 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV the beckleywv is taged on casue that is where i am now
14:22 Roadran422 Oh...
14:22 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV i live in Mars PA USA
14:22 Roadran422 MARS!
14:22 Roadran422 ALIENS!
14:22 Roadran422 xD
14:22 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV i am spending time with my sister in beckley
14:22 Roadran422 Og nice... Well Merry Christmas
14:22 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV i'm 22
14:22 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV merry christmas to you too
14:22 Roadran422 :)
14:24 Roadran422 Hi Tinsel
14:24 Roadran422 lol
14:24 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV botsteve tell Lwq1996 merry christmas
14:25 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV botsteve; tell Lwq1996 merry christmas
14:25 Roadran422 botsteve .tell Toastdude Merry Christmas (9:25)
14:25 Electricguy *stop!... hammatime!*
14:25 Roadran422 Lol
14:25 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV .tell
14:25 BotSteve Sorry, .tell is not yet implemented.  Use BotSteve: tell
14:25 CaptainNiobe Electricguy, are you watching PhotonicInduction? :P
14:26 Roadran422 Ok...
14:26 Electricguy nah XD
14:26 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV botsteve: tell Lwq1996 merry christmas
14:26 BotSteve KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV: I'll pass that on when Lwq1996 is around.
14:26 Roadran422 botsteve: tell Toastdude Merry Christmas (9:25)
14:26 BotSteve Roadran422: I'll pass that on when Toastdude is around.
14:26 Electricguy if you have ever heard MC Hammer - can't touch this  you'll get it! ;P
14:26 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV botsteve: tell tonsofpcs merry christmas
14:26 BotSteve KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
14:26 Roadran422 Botsteve: tell everyone Merry Christmas!
14:26 BotSteve Roadran422: I'll pass that on when everyone is around.
14:27 Roadran422 xD
14:27 Electricguy hee hee! so true :P http://www.n0.se/f/n/effc4_384136_1666686003996_1742689872_844939_1064311579_n.jpg
14:27 Roadran422 ... o_O
14:27 Roadran422 Memes
14:27 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymNFyxvIdaM&amp;ob=av3e
14:27 BotSteve Title: Bomfunk MC's - Freestyler - YouTube
14:27 Electricguy ..XD
14:29 Electricguy oh cool! the kid got a MINIDSIC in that video! :D
14:29 Roadran422 Lol
14:29 Roadran422 I'm watching it... _-_ what is this?
14:29 Electricguy minidisc*
14:30 Electricguy music from when you was just a little baby! ;P
14:31 Roadran422 That music. Is scaring me.
14:31 Electricguy lol
14:31 Roadran422 I'm not even joking... xD
14:31 Electricguy more music from that era :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw3Nt7hf4-E&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=5&amp;feature=plpp_video
14:31 BotSteve Title: Mighty 44 - Push it - YouTube
14:32 Roadran422 I like classcal. No rock, hip, country maybe a bit jazz?...
14:32 * CaptainNiobe bops away to freestyler
14:32 Electricguy you are a truly weird kid... XD
14:32 Roadran422 :PP
14:32 Roadran422 :DD
14:33 Electricguy some more music from when you was a baby :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glkyNhspfwA&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=72&amp;feature=plpp_video
14:33 BotSteve Title: Warp Brothers - We Will Survive - YouTube
14:33 Electricguy i have blown many speakers with that track, lol XD
14:33 Roadran422 I'm not going to listen... xD
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14:33 Electricguy ok, fine. be sqaure and boring! :P
14:33 CaptainNiobe i love that kind of music... scooter, ftw (different style though)
14:34 Electricguy if you get scared by boomfunk MC's you'll probably shit bricks if you listen to german industrial hardcore... XD
14:35 Electricguy or industril rave :D
14:35 Electricguy industrial*
14:35 * CaptainNiobe seriously wants to go to an underground rave
14:35 Electricguy that would be cool :P
14:35 CaptainNiobe oh, yes...
14:36 supertinsel go to one then!
14:36 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrnmUJjo_9c&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=24&amp;feature=plpp_video
14:36 BotSteve Title: X-Rx - Industrial Rave Revolution - YouTube
14:36 Electricguy :3
14:36 CaptainNiobe no idea where there is any in brisbane... lol...
14:36 * CaptainNiobe bows to Electricguy for track
14:37 * Electricguy don't really get it.. XD
14:37 CaptainNiobe saying thanks :) i r liking this
14:37 Electricguy ahh :D hehe
14:38 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb4CIHj6Epk&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=204&amp;feature=plpp_video
14:38 BotSteve Title: Eisenfunk- Korobeiniki - YouTube
14:38 Electricguy win :D
14:40 CaptainNiobe O.O
14:40 Electricguy XD
14:40 Electricguy germans...
14:40 CaptainNiobe it's alright when the song really kicks in...
14:40 Electricguy if you like some bass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJr66oPTJ8A&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=129&amp;feature=plpp_video
14:40 BotSteve Title: Incubite - Ich hasse dich - YouTube
14:41 Electricguy kind of a WTF picture though...
14:41 CaptainNiobe close to a nsfw pic, i think... lol... great track though... :)
14:41 Electricguy yeah XD
14:42 Electricguy i'm pretty stuck to australian hardcore atm... :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwgTe1Rjhek&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=26&amp;feature=plpp_video
14:42 BotSteve Title: Frisco - Sea Of Love (Hixxy Remix) - YouTube
14:42 Electricguy very nice type of hardcore
14:43 CaptainNiobe beginning somehow reminds me of 2unlimited's there's no limit
14:43 Electricguy lol :P
14:43 CaptainNiobe no limit*
14:43 Electricguy i got a 2 unlimited album.. XD
14:43 CaptainNiobe i don't
14:43 Electricguy double CD. one is filled with music videos.. XD
14:43 CaptainNiobe lol...
14:43 Electricguy pretty shitty videos to be honest. lol
14:44 CaptainNiobe lol
14:44 Electricguy pretty shitty music too... XD
14:44 CaptainNiobe no limit's alright, i like that
14:44 Electricguy yeah
14:44 Electricguy but most of their other trax sux balls :P
14:45 Electricguy if you like electronic music in general, listen to NERadio! :)
14:45 Electricguy www.neradio.se
14:45 CaptainNiobe i'll pass ftw, listening to the rest of the cool music you linked to :)
14:46 Electricguy a swedish internet radio station with VEERY good sound quality for being only a 128kb/s stream
14:46 Electricguy they gotta be using a very good multiband compressor
14:47 Electricguy www.neradio.fm is the english version of the site
14:48 Electricguy the Sweden feed is usually the best one. that one got live DJs each day and play the best music :)
14:48 Electricguy brb!
14:48 CaptainNiobe ok
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14:50 supertinsel Im going to take a break , bye peoples:)
14:50 CaptainNiobe hello, westmi, merry christmas!
14:50 CaptainNiobe ok, laater supertinsel *hugs* rest up, honey! :)
14:51 supertinsel thanks :)
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14:53 westmi CaptainNiobe  merry christmas
14:53 CaptainNiobe :)
14:55 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | The name's Bond...Ionic Bond.  Taken, not shared. | Word of the day: Quadrate
15:12 Electricguy oki, i'm back! :)
15:13 CaptainNiobe welcome back, Electricguy :)
15:13 Electricguy thx :)
15:26 * CaptainNiobe idly watches tumbleweed roll by
15:30 Roadran422 I have a ytrewq keyboard!
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15:53 mashpriborintorg hi merry Christmas
15:58 Roadran422 HI
15:58 Roadran422 Merry Christmas!
15:58 Roadran422 *Hi
15:59 masterofmonks Here have a spatula.
15:59 CaptainNiobe ... oh, god... not the spatulas! LOL!!!
16:00 injektion Merry $*@(#* christmas
16:01 Roadran422 Lol
16:01 Roadran422 Spatulas?'
16:02 CaptainNiobe it seems to be a thing here... lol...
16:02 Roadran422 ...?
16:02 CaptainNiobe idk myself, actually... lol...
16:02 CaptainNiobe masterofmonks: shed some light on the spatulas?
16:03 masterofmonks There is no light to be shed.
16:03 Cprossu Merry xmas/holiday stuff folks
16:03 Roadran422 Yah.... I'd like to know more about spatulas.
16:03 masterofmonks I like the word.
16:03 Roadran422 Hi cprossu!
16:03 masterofmonks It's odd.
16:03 Roadran422 Lol
16:03 masterofmonks It makes people go "wait, what did he say?
16:03 Roadran422 Like I like the phrases, "Meh" and "eh"
16:04 Roadran422 Tumbleweed!
16:05 masterofmonks .g tumbleweed houses
16:05 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/
16:05 CaptainNiobe tumbleweeds amuse me... so... rolly... :P
16:05 Roadran422 Lol
16:05 Roadran422 .wiki tumbleweed
16:05 BotSteve "A tumbleweed is the above-ground part of a plant that, once mature and dry, disengages from the root and tumbles away in the wind." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tumbleweed
16:05 Roadran422 Any tumbleweed in australia?
16:06 CaptainNiobe outback maybe, not sure...
16:06 Roadran422 Hahaha
16:06 Roadran422 Tumbleweed, old est. Gusn shoo out!
16:06 wannabe1987 o shit....guess who just slept through church....
16:06 Roadran422 *Gun shoot out
16:06 CaptainNiobe i live in brisbane, queensland's capital city, so none in the city...
16:06 Roadran422 Lol
16:06 CaptainNiobe lol... morning wannabe :)
16:06 Roadran422 Good morning wannabe!
16:06 wannabe1987 hi....i'm going to go take a shower now...
16:07 CaptainNiobe ok :)
16:07 Roadran422 As I said... I'm mostly athiest...
16:07 Roadran422 I did not fail, i just found 10,000 ways that didnt work ~ Thomas Edison
16:07 CaptainNiobe wannabe, i'm sure God won't mind you missed a day of church, He's just as happy with a little prayer at home... :)
16:08 wannabe1987 but its christmas....
16:08 Roadran422 ...
16:08 injektion I've slept through church before hell I even was SMSing people through out the service
16:08 wannabe1987 and its not God i'm worried about....its my parents.
16:08 Roadran422 I have no idea whatsoever.
16:08 masterofmonks You are sick, and have been for several days. I am sure they will understand.
16:09 CaptainNiobe wannabe, God isn't going to strike you down just for not attending church on christmas... your parishner may, but God won't... remember, he's a forgiving being...
16:09 Roadran422 ...
16:09 injektion During the thanksgiving service me and angy were iMessaging each other and I really didn't care and everyone else thought i was rude
16:10 wannabe1987 yes, niobe, i know
16:10 wannabe1987 i have to pee, i'll be right back
16:10 masterofmonks injektion: I am sure you didn't have say King Diamond as an alert for your instant messages or anything...
16:10 CaptainNiobe Roadran422, for the record, i'm not a believer either, but i understand enough that i'm comfortable talking about it with those who are religious... and i do not begrudge those religious for their beliefs - we all need something to believe in...
16:11 Roadran422 I don't want to start a conflict..... But I do respect all religions no matter what it is. But me, personally, I do believe... In SCIENCE!
16:11 injektion masterofmonks, I was polite enough to have my phone on vibrate
16:11 Roadran422 I have a reasoning to believe that there is no "SuperHuman" that created all of this.... There is a scientfic religion backing it up...
16:11 injektion That is all I will say :)
16:12 Roadran422 *reason not religion
16:12 CaptainNiobe this isn't going to start a conflict, and if you believe it will, we have another channel: #TGG:controversial
16:12 Roadran422 xD
16:13 Roadran422 You weren't kidding. o_0
16:13 CaptainNiobe i'm a channel op, i can't afford to kid :P
16:13 Roadran422 Lol
16:14 Roadran422 .wiki progeny
16:14 BotSteve "A genetic descendant or offspring" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progeny
16:15 wannabe1987 i have friends that are lots of religions, and i dn't start arguments witht hem....i don't care what you believe.  i won't push my belief unless you ask.  i don't really give a shit
16:15 wannabe1987 and i feel like crap
16:16 Roadran422 Don't talk... Take Captain's suggestion a while ago, tea with honey and lemon I think it was?
16:16 wannabe1987 i don't have any tea :(
16:16 wannabe1987 or lemon
16:16 wannabe1987 all i have is honey
16:16 Roadran422 ...
16:16 wannabe1987 ...
16:16 wannabe1987 i' not at moms house....and i just recieved my food money the other day....i haven't restocked yet!
16:16 Roadran422 I have no idea...
16:16 injektion POTS
16:17 Roadran422 Lol
16:18 wannabe1987 dad just tried to call....i have no voice for the phone...
16:18 Roadran422 ouch!
16:19 wannabe1987 and i don't have minutes for him to be calling
16:19 wannabe1987 nor do i have minutes for texting
16:19 wannabe1987 so i texted him on google voice
16:19 Roadran422 Lol, textfree works?
16:19 wannabe1987 is there a way for microsoft sam to make phone calls for me?
16:20 wannabe1987 nvm
16:20 wannabe1987 he's texting back via gv
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16:23 lwq1996 hi
16:23 BotSteve lwq1996: I have the following messages for you:
16:23 BotSteve At 14:26Z, KB3NZQ_Biostar asked me to tell lwq1996 merry christmas
16:23 wannabe1987 lee!
16:23 lwq1996 merry christmas
16:23 injektion Happy holidays
16:23 CaptainNiobe merry christmas, lee :)
16:23 wannabe1987 merry christmas
16:23 * lwq1996 is relaved that he registered his ipod
16:24 wannabe1987 ??
16:25 lwq1996 i had to verify an acount and it took forever becasue there verification email wouldnt send
16:25 CaptainNiobe :-\
16:25 wannabe1987 o
16:25 Roadran422 HI lwq1996
16:26 lwq1996 i had to make a new email
16:26 lwq1996 hi road run
16:26 Roadran422 :P
16:26 Roadran422 Lol
16:26 lwq1996 and call me lee is much easier
16:26 Roadran422 Hi lee, you can call me Hy. It's easier
16:26 lwq1996 ok, hi hy
16:26 Roadran422 Hi. Lol
16:26 wannabe1987 aw shit they're waiting for me for stockings
16:26 CaptainNiobe roadran422, for the record, lwq1996 is the same age as you, so... :)
16:26 wannabe1987 i need to hop in teh shower now guys
16:26 Roadran422 Oh that's cool lol
16:27 Roadran422 I thought you said you needed help in the shower... o_o
16:27 wannabe1987 lol
16:27 wannabe1987 yes, i do.....:P
16:27 lwq1996 lol
16:27 Roadran422 xD
16:27 wannabe1987 no, i'm 24, i can do it myself...i help others in the shower
16:27 lwq1996 toast would gladely and eagerly help :P
16:27 Roadran422 ... o_o
16:27 Roadran422 Lol
16:27 Roadran422 Toastdude?
16:27 lwq1996 yes
16:27 wannabe1987 i'm a nurse aid.
16:28 Roadran422 Oh hahaha
16:28 Roadran422 Toastdude is 13, lee you are 14, and as am I
16:28 wannabe1987 lee turns 15 in 2 days
16:28 Roadran422 OH. Then nvm.
16:28 wannabe1987 its why i sent him cookies.
16:28 wannabe1987 dur
16:28 wannabe1987 derp :D
16:29 Roadran422 Oh lol
16:29 Roadran422 .cookies Lee
16:29 Roadran422 .cookie Lee
16:29 BotSteve Here you go, Lee, I baked you a double chocolate cookie!
16:29 wannabe1987 here....i'll ttul
16:29 wannabe1987 water is warm :D
16:29 Roadran422 Hahaha
16:29 Roadran422 .cookie CaptainNiobe
16:29 BotSteve Here you go, CaptainNiobe, I baked you a shortbread cookie!
16:29 CaptainNiobe aww, thanks Roadran422 :)
16:30 Roadran422 Hahaha
16:30 CaptainNiobe .skittles Roadran422
16:30 BotSteve Here you go, Roadran422, I got you some sour apple skittles!
16:30 Roadran422 Yay! xD
16:31 Roadran422 Thanks!
16:31 CaptainNiobe sour apple? O.O
16:31 Roadran422 I like sour candy!
16:31 Roadran422 .skittles BotSteve
16:31 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  Rainbows taste delicious!
16:31 Roadran422 ^xD
16:31 Roadran422 Lee
16:32 Roadran422 How's christmas for you?
16:34 lwq1996 im good
16:34 lwq1996 and christmas was good
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16:37 lwq-ipod yay it works
16:37 lwq-ipod not to bad on delay either
16:41 wannabe1987 there.  im all wet
16:41 wannabe1987 what kind of ipod, lwq-ipod
16:43 lwq1996 touch 4gen
16:43 wannabe1987 o.O
16:44 lwq-ipod i love this thing
16:44 lwq1996 its a 8gb though
16:44 wannabe1987 so?  unless you have 100gb of music, you're fine :P
16:44 wannabe1987 besides, you can't listen to it all at once. :P
16:45 injektion From experience any idevice with less than 32GB of space you'll be out of space rather quickly
16:46 wannabe1987 what all do you have on there?!
16:46 eg_lappy doing some building Live... www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
16:46 injektion Apps, videos and music
16:46 roadran422|eatin kback!
16:47 roadran422|eatin .nick roadran422
16:47 injektion I like to keep some adult content on my phone
16:47 roadran422|eatin -_-
16:47 wannabe1987 apparently
16:47 wannabe1987 road, its /nick
16:47 wannabe1987 beccause its not a botsteve thing, its a freenode thing.
16:47 roadran422 Thanks lol
16:47 wannabe1987 the .is for botsteve, / for irc/freenode/chanserv/nick
16:48 roadran422 Oh I was thinking it bot I didn't do it xD
16:48 roadran422 Ok thanks Lol
16:48 wannabe1987 :)
16:48 roadran422 Injektion what content? MW3?
16:48 roadran422 Or...
16:48 wannabe1987 no, i'm assuming pr0nz
16:48 roadran422 Lol Yah
16:48 injektion ^
16:48 roadran422 That's no problem...
16:49 injektion Porn keeps me from using something I shouldn't do
16:49 roadran422 o_O
16:49 CaptainNiobe nfsw i think
16:49 wannabe1987 then that sgood
16:49 roadran422 Lol
16:50 injektion There is a mobile phone app that I used to use a lot
16:50 roadran422 What is it?
16:50 roadran422 Actually, I don't think I want to know anymore.
16:50 wannabe1987 LOL
16:50 lwq-ipod im bored
16:50 roadran422 Lol
16:51 wannabe1987 um...come help me open my stocking stuff in 1/2 hour?
16:51 roadran422 Lol
16:51 wannabe1987 o!  i know!  be my voice!
16:51 roadran422 I am going in about 9 to open presents xD
16:51 roadran422 At my uncles house
16:52 CaptainNiobe hey, Electricguy, i hate to say it, but it's probably not the most flattering camera angle... O.O
16:52 injektion I also keep a lot of books on my iDevices
16:52 roadran422 Ok..?
16:53 wannabe1987 ahhhh
16:53 * injektion didn't take his medicine today
16:53 roadran422 I am confused...
16:53 wannabe1987 don't worry, roadran422, he's going back to previous stuff we talked about
16:53 wannabe1987 i get it!
16:53 roadran422 Lol
16:54 roadran422 I don't think i really want to know...xD
16:54 wannabe1987 i haven't either :P    (taken my meds)....but thats because swallowing *anything* hurts like a mofo right now
16:54 injektion I ran out of my meds
16:55 wannabe1987 o.  :(  thats not good.  can you get more next week?
16:55 injektion I couldn't get to the pharmacy before they closed yesterday
16:55 wannabe1987 :(
16:56 injektion Now I cannot find my phone
16:56 wannabe1987 and of course, they're not open today.....only thing open today is the ER
16:57 wannabe1987 http://wheresmycellphone.com/  will call it for you
16:57 BotSteve Title: Where's My Cellphone?
16:57 roadran422|Prese Adios todos aqui! Yo necesito abrir todos mis regalos!
16:57 wannabe1987 lol ok
16:57 roadran422|Prese Ok! Adios!
16:59 Electricguy CaptainNiobe, you see, another chatfriend of mine calls it the crotch cam! XD
17:00 CaptainNiobe LMFAO!!!
17:00 wannabe1987 ...
17:01 Electricguy if you wonder what i'm working on, check this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-1-BplpEqU
17:01 BotSteve Title: Modified SONY boombox - YouTube
17:01 Electricguy and what i'm doing atm is changing the pesky diode drop array for the USB mp3 player to a small 7805 oard
17:01 Electricguy board*
17:02 mashpriborintorg such craptacular boomboxes are not even worth to tinker :p
17:02 eg_lappy this one sounds pretty decent really :)
17:02 injektion My brothers GF is annoyed when you make noise with a straw and a plastic cup lid
17:02 eg_lappy and it was free
17:02 CaptainNiobe i hear you on the laptop, you got a mic going too?
17:03 eg_lappy and it got a built in cordless screwdriver battery with a built in charger for it too... XD
17:03 mashpriborintorg I don't bother anymore pickip up such devices tho
17:06 injektion How do you access the @ key on a UK keyboard?
17:07 Electricguy oki, the little voltage regulator mod works great! :)
17:07 CaptainNiobe what program you using to talk with then?
17:07 Electricguy ?
17:08 CaptainNiobe on the livestram
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17:08 CaptainNiobe livestream* female voice?
17:08 Electricguy oh, the speech bot?
17:08 CaptainNiobe yeah
17:08 CaptainNiobe that's isn't ms sam :P
17:08 wannabe1987 hi lee :)
17:08 Electricguy it's mIRC with a custom script and a better windows speech voice :)
17:09 Electricguy it's the voice Katre from the AT&T natural voice package
17:09 Electricguy Kate*
17:09 CaptainNiobe that's pretty sweet...
17:09 lwq-ipod i need a better ipod client
17:09 Electricguy yeah it's very good to be a windows speech voise
17:09 Electricguy voice*
17:09 Experimentonomen the same voice that narrates some of the how its made episodes on tv :P
17:09 * Electricguy can't type today!
17:09 lwq-ipod im usimg mango
17:09 wannabe1987 you're a fruit?!
17:09 Experimentonomen atleast it sounded identical to e back when i watched the live strea
17:10 Electricguy if you wonder where the talking comes from, here is the channel #electricguy
17:10 Electricguy on FreeNode
17:10 CaptainNiobe hey, Electricguy: willing to show your face? on the stream? :D
17:10 wannabe1987 hm no thanks
17:10 wannabe1987 i have to get going to moms house for stockings :D
17:10 lwq-ipod no its a irc client
17:10 wannabe1987 THERSE NO SNOW I"M SO AHAPPY
17:10 wannabe1987 yes lee, i'm joking hun
17:11 CaptainNiobe OMG! you're so cute! :D
17:11 masterofmonks So, lee got an ipod touch for christmas.
17:11 lwq1996 yes i did :P
17:12 wannabe1987 niobe....
17:12 lwq1996 me can now sneak irc into school >:P
17:12 CaptainNiobe yes?
17:12 wannabe1987 nothing..........
17:12 wannabe1987 :P
17:12 lwq1996 lol
17:12 Experimentonomen CaptainNiobe: http://i.imgur.com/k8wah.jpg <-- thats whut i look like
17:12 wannabe1987 *clicks*
17:12 wannabe1987 o like bill! ::P
17:13 wannabe1987 minus the suspenders tho
17:13 masterofmonks Experimentonomen: Some how I expected the headphones, however the missing vaccume tubes were a surprise.
17:13 CaptainNiobe ex? tbh? you're cute, but not in the same way as electricguy... *hugs ex*
17:14 wannabe1987 lol
17:14 * wannabe1987 now sad she didn't get to see Electricguy
17:14 Electricguy lol!
17:14 Experimentonomen masterofmonks, i extremely rarely use headphones
17:14 Electricguy bad timing ;P
17:14 wannabe1987 theres a dog in the house :D
17:14 wannabe1987 its so cute!!!!!!!
17:14 masterofmonks So what else did you get lwq1996?
17:14 wannabe1987 tools
17:14 masterofmonks Thank you lee.
17:15 Electricguy CaptainNiobe, i hope you are a girl! otherwise i'm scared that you say i'm cute... XD
17:15 wannabe1987 she is a girl
17:15 wannabe1987 don't worry
17:15 wannabe1987 you're welcome mom :P
17:15 Electricguy phew! XD
17:15 Experimentonomen CaptainNiobe, now that u know what we look like, lets see wut u look like ;)
17:15 CaptainNiobe lol... last time i checked, Electricguy :P
17:15 Electricguy :P
17:15 masterofmonks Electricguy: if it helps I think you're cute too.
17:15 * masterofmonks doesn't even know what Electricguy looks like.
17:15 Electricguy LOL!
17:16 CaptainNiobe ok, ex, fine honey :) *hugs again and gets photo*
17:16 wannabe1987 masterofmonks, same :
17:16 wannabe1987 :/*
17:16 * Electricguy want to see what CaptainNiobe looks like too
17:16 Electricguy :D
17:16 wannabe1987 same!  i don't think its on facebook :/
17:16 * wannabe1987 goes to get a photo too
17:16 wannabe1987 Electricguy, i need a photo!  i didn't have your LS up cuz i'm leaving in a few minutes
17:17 Electricguy here is my FB profile if anyone want to friend a swedish geek.. XD http://www.facebook.com/philip.albertsson
17:17 BotSteve Title: Philip Albertsson | Facebook
17:17 wannabe1987 derp
17:17 wannabe1987 i know who you are
17:17 wannabe1987 :P
17:17 Electricguy O RLY?! XD
17:17 wannabe1987 http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/315743_670763886784_15302708_34530965_1478435234_n.jpg  crappy web cam photo
17:17 Electricguy we are not at all friends on FB ;P
17:17 wannabe1987 lol
17:17 CaptainNiobe https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2692/70/111/585007985/n585007985_1704856_324541.jpg
17:17 CaptainNiobe https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2692/70/111/585007985/n585007985_1704855_6789610.jpg
17:17 CaptainNiobe i'm in the cap
17:17 wannabe1987 omg you has a face!
17:17 Electricguy okay! ^^
17:18 Electricguy everyone can haz a face :P
17:18 wannabe1987 and i have to leave now.....
17:18 Experimentonomen cya wannabe1987
17:18 wannabe1987 i have lunch and presants waiting
17:18 Electricguy balls...
17:18 Electricguy see you later wannabe1987 :)
17:18 Electricguy have fun
17:18 CaptainNiobe ok, wannabe, have fun, okays?
17:19 Electricguy hrmm.. i need to find a charging cable for my boombox...
17:20 CaptainNiobe i just friended you, eg...
17:21 injektion This is me http://goput.it/6dc.jpg
17:21 masterofmonks http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4817512380_7da38bd7b8.jpg
17:21 injektion Your not a dalek
17:22 masterofmonks You're
17:22 CaptainNiobe shit, injektion, how old are you?
17:23 injektion Grammer nazi
17:23 injektion 24
17:23 masterofmonks !!WE ARE THE SUPERIOR BEING!!
17:23 CaptainNiobe i swear you look younger... i probs would have pout you at 18 or 19...
17:23 sndwrx dalek looks like he'd be a good plumber.  what is that, a plunger for one hand and a sewer snake for the other?
17:23 Experimentonomen i'd say 14 due to the hair :P
17:24 CaptainNiobe yeah, ex, maybe it's the hair that does it :P
17:24 masterofmonks Wait, no fucking way.
17:24 CaptainNiobe ?
17:24 masterofmonks There are Dalek stapms in the U.K.
17:24 masterofmonks stamps*
17:24 CaptainNiobe lol... why does that not surprise me?
17:25 masterofmonks Frmo 1999 too.
17:25 masterofmonks From*
17:25 KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV .seen Cprossu
17:25 BotSteve KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV: I last saw Cprossu 1.37 hours ago at 2011-12-25 16:03:19 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:25:23 UTC
17:26 masterofmonks Oh, lwq1996 look at the topic.
17:27 lwq1996 hi monks
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17:32 lwq-ipod im bored
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17:35 Electricguy CaptainNiobe, okey! :)
17:35 CaptainNiobe :)
17:36 CaptainNiobe thankies :D
17:36 lwq-ipod apple should put sd exspansions in their stuff
17:36 Electricguy :)
17:36 Electricguy aww cute kitteh! :3
17:37 CaptainNiobe thankies... :) he's a rat sometimes lol
17:37 Electricguy heheh :D
17:37 lwq-ipod wow the battery gets hot while charging
17:38 CaptainNiobe lwq-ipod: uncomfortable hot or ow hot or just warm?
17:39 Electricguy umm, a hot ipod (LiIon or LiPo) is NOT good...
17:39 Electricguy change it before it catches fire or explodes. seriously
17:40 * CaptainNiobe bows out and leaves it to Electricguy
17:40 injektion My iPhone gets hot while charging and it never exploded
17:40 Electricguy it can. if it's the battery that gets hot
17:40 lwq-ipod well it gets warm
17:40 Electricguy hopefully it's something else than the battery
17:41 lwq-ipod maby the screen
17:42 Electricguy does it get warm when it's not charging?
17:42 lwq-ipod i have it on the brightest setting
17:42 lwq-ipod idk
17:43 lwq-ipod .seen lwq1996
17:43 BotSteve lwq-ipod: I last saw lwq1996 325.04 hours ago at 2011-12-12 04:41:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:43:21 UTC
17:43 lwq-ipod that needs fixed
17:43 CaptainNiobe ... there is something wrong with that...
17:44 Electricguy i can't see what you mean... XD
17:44 CaptainNiobe ?
17:44 injektion Hmmm
17:50 lwq-ipod joined #thegeekgroup
17:51 lwq-ipod damn thing
17:54 lwq-ipod i should really clean mu room
17:55 lwq-ipod joined #thegeekgroup
17:55 lwq-ipod wtf
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17:56 lwq-ipod hi Sylph-DS
17:58 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos: Happy Holidays From Geek Group 2011 #6: Hallelujah Chorus http://youtu.be/gHY3gwXz54o
17:59 lwq-ipod yay!
17:59 lwq-ipod anyone here
18:01 wannabe1987 hi
18:04 lwq1996 hi
18:04 lwq-ipod hi :P
18:04 wannabe1987 hi
18:04 wannabe1987 o dear
18:04 wannabe1987 two lees!
18:04 lwq-ipod f
18:05 wannabe1987 g
18:05 lwq-ipod dammit
18:05 lwq-ipod i keep hiting buttons i dont mean to press
18:05 wannabe1987 you'll get used to it
18:06 lwq-ipod yeah im better than i was 2 hours ago
18:07 wannabe1987 :)
18:07 wannabe1987 twss
18:08 lwq-ipod **facepa**
18:08 lwq-ipod damit
18:09 wannabe1987 its ok dear
18:10 wannabe1987 STOCKING TIME!!!!!
18:11 lwq1996 ?
18:12 Electricguy lol
18:23 astro73|alice merry christmas!
18:24 Electricguy merry x-mas! :)
18:27 wannabe1987 i got a stanley mini multitool!
18:29 astro73|alice I got xkcd volume 0
18:29 astro73|alice Randall does some great writing
18:29 wannabe1987 i saw :P (facebook)
18:30 wannabe1987 he got pokemons in his stocking (ds game)  so exciting :/
18:32 astro73|alice and has notes scattered throughout in various obfuscations
18:33 wannabe1987 ob what?
18:34 wannabe1987 .define obfuscation
18:34 BotSteve obfuscation — noun: 1. (uncountable) The act or process of obfuscating, or obscuring the perception of something; the concept of concealing the meaning of a communication by making it more confusing and harder to interpret, 2. (uncountable) Confusion, bewilderment, or a baffled state resultin[...]
18:36 astro73|alice first one was the number of the letter
18:36 astro73|alice the next was ROT13
18:36 astro73|alice and the page numbers are in base 3
18:36 astro73|alice etc
18:36 wannabe1987 i dont' know those things....
18:38 astro73|alice *patpat*
18:38 wannabe1987 *wags tail*
18:39 astro73|alice 15-11-1-25 8-5-18-5 23-5 7-15
18:39 Electricguy hmmm, how do i setup a full duplex command prompt link between windows command prompt and a DOS machine running a serial terminal program?
18:39 wannabe1987 by hitting it :/
18:39 wannabe1987 :P
18:40 astro73|alice Electricguy: you mean you want a serial terminal program for windows?
18:40 Electricguy nah
18:40 astro73|alice i think teraterm will do that
18:41 Electricguy i want to output everything from the windows command prompt on the serial port
18:41 astro73|alice oh, you mean you need the shell server on the windows box
18:41 Electricguy and be able to control the windows command prompt with the DOS machine over a serial cable
18:41 wannabe1987 why?
18:42 Electricguy geeky display for my server... :P
18:42 astro73|alice I know it can be done with linux tools
18:42 wannabe1987 ooo a "because i can"
18:42 astro73|alice oh!
18:42 astro73|alice you want a windows telnet server
18:42 astro73|alice kinda
18:43 Electricguy if i type for example Dir >COM1 in cmd it displays the windows machines directory on the DOS laptop
18:43 astro73|alice right
18:43 Electricguy but i still can't control the windows machine from the DOS machine..
18:43 astro73|alice because nothing is listening to COM1
18:43 Electricguy cause the windows machine isn't listening on the COM port...
18:43 astro73|alice you want a terminal on the serial port
18:43 Electricguy exactly.. XD
18:44 Electricguy any tips on suitable terminal programs?
18:46 astro73|alice not for the windows prompt
18:46 Electricguy damn..
18:46 astro73|alice it's not an unusual setup for linux stuff
18:47 astro73|alice and linux can fully handle NTFS and windows shares
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18:48 astro73|alice but i don't even know if software can wrap the prompt itself or they have to reimplement
18:49 lwq-ipod im bored i just tore down my sisters old desk
18:50 wannabe1987 did she get a new one?
18:51 lwq-ipod yes
18:51 wannabe1987 nice
18:51 lwq-ipod i got one too
18:51 wannabe1987 cool
18:51 lwq-ipod i never had a desk
18:52 wannabe1987 o.o
18:52 lwq-ipod they are goving me this stuff for when they move jeff down stairs
18:52 lwq-ipod givibg*
18:52 lwq-ipod damit
18:53 lwq-ipod giving
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18:54 lwq-ipod damn this thing
18:54 lwq-ipod routet is craping out again
18:54 injektion Does the IRC client you use support multitasking?
18:54 lwq-ipod i can lock it but i can
18:55 lwq-ipod cant lock it
18:55 astro73|alice .... braille.... interpretive dance as runes?
18:56 lwq-ipod yes just cant lock it or it disconnects
18:58 wannabe1987 why is yarn a pain to untangle?
18:59 lwq-ipod idk
18:59 wannabe1987 its like cords....they get tangled just *being* by each other
19:00 hopstafarian wannabe1987, surface area, stray fibers, electrostatic affinity?
19:00 wannabe1987 idk
19:00 hopstafarian wannabe1987, cords are easy, just time consuming..
19:01 hopstafarian wannabe1987, but yes, yarn=suck
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19:02 wannabe1987 not always...if you're a knitter like i am, yarn = good!
19:02 hopstafarian wannabe1987, of course, was only referring to the untang. part
19:02 wannabe1987 lol
19:04 hopstafarian ne1 else here having a hard time having a hard time finding a custom mobility solution when it comes to computer and tools?...
19:04 hopstafarian even if i wasn't on foot, i'd still want a "go bag"...any input there?
19:06 sndwrx I'm partial to aluminum and stainless steel briefcases with custom foam cut-outs inside to hold tools.
19:06 sndwrx Tool boxes and backpacks work, too.
19:07 wannabe1987 merry christmas sndwrx
19:07 hopstafarian sndwrx, kinda looking for that level or organization, but within the backpack paradigm?
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19:07 wannabe1987 wb]
19:07 sndwrx Merry christmas.
19:08 lwq-ipod i hate organizing music
19:08 wannabe1987 lol
19:08 hopstafarian sndwrx, have to hoss it 10+ km a day....maybe a custom bag with molle/pal fittings, and a tool roll...
19:09 hopstafarian sndwrx, looking into to designing that myself, but looking for a "seamstress" that can make that happen..
19:10 sndwrx Should be pretty simple to make a tool roll.
19:11 sndwrx Especially if you can get access to a sewing machine.
19:11 hopstafarian sndwrx, yeah, that parts easy...it's the total system integration that is giving me pause...
19:13 sndwrx make a tool roll, throw it in the bag.
19:13 sndwrx done and done.
19:13 sndwrx If you feel the need to get more fancy, then sew the tool roll horizonally at the top of the backpack, inside the opening.
19:14 sndwrx Then rather than being a roll (or even still as a roll, maybe with velcro), you can flip the tool storage out of the backpack.
19:14 wannabe1987 http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/383806_10150424413286899_702081898_8766709_1633259922_n.jpg
19:15 Cprossu hello folks
19:15 wannabe1987 hi Cprossu
19:16 lwq-ipod im so bored i want to ho to the range and shoot the rifle
19:16 wannabe1987 ho?
19:16 lwq-ipod go*
19:16 hopstafarian sndwrx, that's what i was going for, but also wanted to make the tool roll a)an extra level of protection when it was attached, and b) redundant, and that the quality of the bag wouldn't be compromised when it wasn't...call me naive, but always trying to marry the good, the bad, and the ..wait for it....this girl i know...
19:16 wannabe1987 lol
19:16 Cprossu ^ wow shooting a rifle must be rather 'meh' to you then if that's your response "I'm so bored that"
19:16 hopstafarian lwq-ipod, what kinda rifle?
19:17 lwq-ipod savage .22
19:18 lwq-ipod where you going wannabe-afk
19:18 hopstafarian lwq-ipod, LR?...i think i used to own one of those..?  with the peephole-site..?...modeled after the mossberg/
19:18 hopstafarian ?
19:19 lwq-ipod idk if it was but its a bult action
19:20 hopstafarian lwq-ipod, exactly...
19:20 lwq-ipod i didnt really look at the sights yet
19:21 lwq-ipod i neefd to get a scope for it
19:21 hopstafarian lwq-ipod, feinwerkbau air pistol here...nice little plinkin machine for just such an occasion..
19:22 hopstafarian lwq-ipod, what are you, the world's first .22LR sniper?...naw, leave the sights as they are, and use that as an excuse to work on your marksmanship..
19:23 hopstafarian lwq-ipod, then when you do get a scope, you'll know how to use it..
19:24 lwq-ipod i can use open sights, im getting mounts thats me use the sights
19:24 lwq-ipod when i hg
19:25 lwq-ipod get a scope
19:26 hopstafarian lwq-ipod, spotting scope to hep you dial the open sights in...maybe i misunderstood?
19:28 egrsteve|away morning all
19:29 mashpriborintorg hi
19:29 astro73|alice morning
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19:30 lwq-ipod god damnit
19:30 masterofmonks ?
19:32 Hackbat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_homebrew#Wiiuse
19:32 BotSteve Title: Wii homebrew - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:32 Hackbat lol look at the end of the article
19:33 masterofmonks Wiiuse?
19:33 Hackbat the end of hte article
19:33 masterofmonks Oh, rawr.
19:33 Hackbat no idea who did it
19:33 Hackbat but they're awesome
19:36 egrsteve|away FYI from CB: For those seeking quiet refuge from approaching the LD/50 of loving togetherness and extended family, I will be at the lab in half an hour playing some delightful Holiday classics by Prodigy and Rammstein while shooting pool and experimenting with the electrical conductivity and explosive characteristics of Christmas tree ornaments.
19:37 mashpriborintorg and he did actually arrive at the lab a few minutes ago, as did Moose and Omni
19:37 egrsteve|away cool
19:37 egrsteve|away I doubt I will be headed there
19:38 egrsteve|away but I hope they have fun
19:38 astro73|alice i've got too much to do
19:38 astro73|alice munchkin to play, puzzles to unravel, stories to read
19:38 astro73|alice CD to listen to, lego to help my dad with
19:39 mashpriborintorg your dad still plays with lego, good
19:40 mashpriborintorg sometimes when I can get a lego box at a good price at the discount sales, I buy it just for the pleasure of assembling it, then I sell it on ebay
19:40 mashpriborintorg the newer Technics sets are a pain for the fingers though
19:41 * egrsteve|away sounds warning klaxon and sneezes twice
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19:47 producerbill2 trapped at in laws
19:47 producerbill2 fucking hell
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19:49 Toastdude Hello
19:49 BotSteve toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
19:49 BotSteve At 14:26Z, Roadran422 asked me to tell toastdude Merry Christmas (9:25)
19:50 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell roadran422 Thanks, you too!
19:50 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when roadran422 is around.
19:50 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
19:50 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
19:50 Toastdude .seen wannabe1987
19:50 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe1987 0.57 hours ago at 2011-12-25 19:16:37 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:50:50 UTC
19:50 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe-zz 36.12 hours ago at 2011-12-24 07:43:23 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
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19:50 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe-afk 72.68 hours ago at 2011-12-22 19:09:57 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
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19:50 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
19:50 BotSteve Toastdude: (3 more)
19:51 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
20:03 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCNvZqpa-7Q
20:03 BotSteve Title: White Wine In The Sun by Tim Minchin - YouTube
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20:06 masterofmonks That is BTW my favorite christmas song.
20:08 wannabe-afk awww i just missed toasty
20:08 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
20:08 BotSteve At 20:02Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell wannabe1987 Text me, please! (I has to get off the IRC..)
20:08 masterofmonks Heh.
20:08 wannabe-afk lol
20:08 wannabe-afk i text him now
20:09 wannabe-afk hi masterofmonks
20:09 masterofmonks Hello wannabe-afk
20:09 wannabe-afk :)
20:10 wannabe-afk i got another knock off multitool
20:11 wannabe-afk a stanley
20:11 masterofmonks Well at least it's a stanley.
20:12 masterofmonks They are generally at least "it's alright" quality.
20:12 wannabe-afk is that better?
20:12 masterofmonks I have a few Stanley tools.
20:12 masterofmonks They do the job.
20:12 wannabe-afk good
20:12 lwq1996 stanley are good cheap tools that are good if you dont have much money
20:12 masterofmonks What lwq1996 said.
20:13 lwq1996 i got craftsman and craftsman/evolv
20:13 masterofmonks But never never never buy a stanley tape measure.
20:13 wannabe-afk well, mom bought them....so :)
20:13 wannabe-afk no?
20:13 lwq1996 unless they are the big fat ones
20:13 masterofmonks Not even those.
20:13 lwq1996 why
20:14 masterofmonks Because all stanleys measure the same as every other stanley, stanley tape measures measure different than every other brand.
20:14 masterofmonks A starret and a lufkin will measure the same, but the stanley won't.
20:14 wannabe-afk odd
20:14 lwq1996 how so?
20:15 masterofmonks It has to do with the end piece.
20:15 lwq1996 i have a stanley and a craftsman and they messure bout the same
20:15 lwq1996 just a 1/16 off
20:15 masterofmonks 1/16 is a lot.
20:15 lwq1996 yeah the end pieces are shit
20:15 wannabe-afk lol @ lee
20:15 wannabe-afk only 1/16 off ;P
20:15 wannabe-afk :P*
20:16 lwq1996 twss
20:16 lwq1996 well thats a 1 dollar stanley against a 20 dollar craftsman
20:16 masterofmonks Or a $6 Lufkin or starret.
20:17 lwq1996 i take the crappy rivots out and do my own
20:17 mashpriborintorg ...and I go to sleep, bye
20:17 masterofmonks The rivets are supposed to fles, it's the amount that is the problem.
20:18 masterofmonks Night mashpriborintorg
20:18 lwq1996 the rivots get loose and the end moves around
20:18 masterofmonks That's when you toss the tape.
20:19 masterofmonks $6 tape < $200+ project
20:19 lwq1996 yeah
20:19 masterofmonks Ideally you should check the calibration of your tape before starting every project using a scale.
20:19 lwq1996 but its ok for not that important work
20:19 lwq1996 yeah
20:20 lwq1996 or one that doesnt need to be exact to the 1/16
20:20 wannabe1987 like measuring for curtains :P
20:21 lwq1996 yeah
20:21 wannabe1987 mmmm yummy ham :D
20:21 lwq1996 i got a pig ham
20:21 masterofmonks I have to be honest the last sdet of curtains I made I said "Fuck sewing this crap by hand" and whipped out the hot glue gun.
20:22 masterofmonks lwq1996: as opposed to a dear ham?
20:22 wannabe1987 lol
20:22 wannabe1987 yes
20:22 masterofmonks wannabe1987: the shocking thing is how well the hot glue works...
20:22 wannabe1987 :nods:
20:22 lwq1996 i mean big
20:23 wannabe1987 ahhhh
20:23 lwq1996 masterofmonks you could of probally went to a ymca and they may of had a sewing station
20:24 wannabe1987 why does my body hate me?
20:24 masterofmonks The nearest YMCA is 50+ miles away.
20:24 masterofmonks Also there is that song...
20:24 masterofmonks wannabe1987: how so?
20:24 wannabe1987 ears, throat, lack of voice, etc
20:25 masterofmonks Ah. That isn't your body, that is something else.
20:25 lwq1996 wannabe did you look at nsfw :P
20:25 wannabe1987 no
20:25 wannabe1987 i 'm not logged in
20:26 masterofmonks You shouldn't.
20:26 lwq1996 aah
20:26 wannabe1987 i know better than to go to NSFW when my mother can see my screen....
20:26 lwq1996 lol
20:27 masterofmonks Later all.
20:27 lwq1996 later monks
20:27 wannabe1987 bye masterofmonks
20:27 wannabe1987 anyone know how to work a kindle?
20:28 lwq1996 why?
20:28 masterofmonks Should be fairly intuitive..
20:28 lwq1996 pretty easy if you ask me
20:28 wannabe1987 yes, but it may or may not be 2nd hand....
20:29 astro73|alice grrr
20:29 wannabe1987 what astro?
20:29 astro73|alice i wish I knew how to automount in linux; it's annoying with my ipod
20:37 wannabe-afk i'm being told to put this away
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20:38 Fulsy Well, I'm finally upgrading from XP to win7
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20:40 Fulsy see you guys on the other side
20:42 astro73|alice ok
20:42 astro73|alice how long before he finds another computer to ask for help?
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20:45 Toastdude Back..
20:46 wannabe-afk hi
20:47 Toastdude wannabe!
20:47 astro73|alice hello
20:49 * wannabe-afk tracks her cousins!
20:49 wannabe-afk they're flying
20:50 Toastdude Hi astro!
20:51 astro73|alice hey toast
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21:12 astro73|alice hey kate
21:12 Katemonster hey.  merry giftmas.
21:12 astro73|alice :D
21:12 astro73|alice my parents know me
21:13 Katemonster um.  what?
21:14 * Katemonster just watched the remake of 3:10 to Yuma... and now wants a Spencer rifle
21:16 astro73|alice i got an xkcd book and JoCo's new album
21:16 astro73|alice and both make me quite happy
21:16 wannabe-afk naptime
21:17 astro73|alice nightnight
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21:22 egrsteve|away xkcd volume 0?
21:22 lwq-ipod im going to my aunts house
21:22 Katemonster very nice, astro
21:22 Katemonster btw, if i accidentally call you alice, i apologize in advance
21:23 astro73|alice it's ok
21:23 lwq-ipod why would u?
21:23 astro73|alice .g xkcd volume 0
21:23 BotSteve astro73|alice: http://store.xkcd.com/
21:23 Katemonster because his nick ends in "alice"?
21:23 Katemonster and because i had a shotgun named alice
21:24 lwq-ipod ah
21:24 lwq-ipod lol
21:24 Katemonster just a natural thing for me to say
21:26 lwq-ipod im bored
21:27 lwq-ipod how in the hell do people with ipod type
21:28 lwq-ipod lwq-ipod: how in the hell do people with ipod type
21:29 lwq-ipod well i gtg guys have fun and merry christmas
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22:15 lwq-ipod hi everyone
22:17 Electricguy hi hi :)
22:17 lwq-ipod wannabe-afk!!!!!!!!
22:17 lwq-ipod hi
22:17 Electricguy lol
22:27 roadran422|Prese Hello all!
22:27 roadran422 .seen toastdude
22:27 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw Toastdude 1.62 hours ago at 2011-12-25 20:50:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 22:27:38 UTC
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22:27 BotSteve At 19:50Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell roadran422 Thanks, you too!
22:27 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw AgCNO6 75.73 hours ago at 2011-12-22 18:44:01 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
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22:30 dr_jkl t\\
22:31 dr_jkl BotSteve: any messages?
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22:36 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/Np7xw.png
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22:39 injektion I wish I was near TGG
22:39 wannabe-afk why
22:40 injektion I had my LD50 of "phamily phun"
22:40 wannabe1987 what, too much family?
22:41 injektion Yes too much dysfunctional family
22:43 wannabe1987 sorry you has dysfunctional family
22:45 wannabe1987 we're getting ready to head to the airport in 20 minutes to welcome home our cousins/relatives
22:45 injektion My dad said he wishes that we went to midnight mass * shudder*
22:45 wannabe1987 :/  sorry
22:46 injektion If I went to mass I'd probably drink the whole chalice of wine
22:47 wannabe1987 bring your own
22:47 injektion Lol
22:50 wannabe1987 i'm sure they wouldn't notice if you swig your own up at the front
22:51 roadran422 Hi
22:51 roadran422 Lol\
22:51 wannabe1987 hi
22:51 roadran422 So whatcha doing?
22:51 wannabe1987 getting ready to go to the airport
22:51 roadran422 Oh nice hahaha
22:52 wannabe1987 my cousins/aunt/uncle are flying in
22:53 roadran422 Oh haha
22:54 wannabe1987 mhm
22:54 wannabe1987 haven't seen them in a few years
22:54 roadran422 Oh...
22:54 roadran422 .seen captainniobe
22:54 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw CaptainNiobe 5.17 hours ago at 2011-12-25 17:44:48 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 22:54:58 UTC
22:55 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw CaptainNiobe|AFK 56.32 hours ago at 2011-12-23 14:35:42 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
23:02 astro73|alice borednow
23:08 NeWtoz I'm about to head to my parents house
23:16 Electricguy bedtime now! :) night night all!
23:17 roadran422 Night!
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23:24 exor674 so I've figured out I have a bad network card. Once I replace it, I totally need to do something spectacular to it!
23:24 * exor674 wonders if she could bribe people to feed it to Thumper >_>
23:24 injektion How do I get my terminal to behave when I use the arrow keys to scroll through the command line history?
23:25 Cprossu_IRSSI exor674 I already had a network card fed to thumper heh
23:25 injektion When I try and scroll through the history I get ^A[[[
23:26 injektion ^[[A
23:26 exor674 Cprossu_IRSSI: I want to set an example for my other hardware
23:27 exor674 "THIS IS WHAT YOU GET WHEN YOU FUCK WITH ME!!!"
23:27 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72lK01B2Ic&amp;feature=plcp&amp;context=C3261abcUDOEgsToPDskLSNBUEuHcZcr31EU73UILG
23:27 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 6-25-11 Cprossu's Revenge, Glen's Damage, and Comparing Length - YouTube
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23:27 Cprossu ^ Had a linksys LNE2PCI give me some problems (it was intermittent as hell)
23:27 Cprossu also the day the big red button of science got broken rofl
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23:28 injektion|irssi I'm surprised this works
23:28 exor674 ( I kept seeing up to 80% packet loss across mine, I forced it to 100BaseT only and went down to 20% -- and then realized it kept dropping the link every so often so I managed to get autonegotiate turned off, but still that screams bad card )
23:29 Cprossu_IRSSI yeah I know really lol
23:29 Cprossu exor674: the link on this one would stay up
23:29 Cprossu and everything would work fine
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23:29 Cprossu until it just stopped passing packets
23:31 injektion|irssi joined #thegeekgroup
23:31 injektion|irssi Someone version me lol
23:32 Cprossu shit!
23:32 Cprossu lol
23:32 Cprossu DAMN YOU injektion!
23:32 Cprossu (also nice!)
23:32 injektion What
23:33 Cprossu what processors you rocking?
23:33 injektion|irssi Dual 250MHz
23:33 Cprossu nice
23:33 Cprossu m12000?
23:34 injektion MIPS R10000
23:34 Cprossu *r
23:34 Cprossu our octane is rocking 2 300 R12000's
23:34 Cprossu *300mhz
23:34 Cprossu iirc
23:35 injektion http://goput.it/4f2.png
23:36 Cprossu nice rig =D
23:36 injektion I want the Dual-R14000 600MHz
23:37 Katemonster buying minecraft is the single worst thing i have ever done for my own productivity.
23:37 exor674 Cprossu: lovely
23:37 injektion I have never used a dual CPU SGI machine until now
23:37 Cprossu well since we're talking moon dust here, I want a origin 3900
23:37 injektion I am impressed but I need more CPU power
23:38 Katemonster http://img861.imageshack.us/img861/9198/domeprog00.png
23:38 astro73|alice it's coming along
23:38 Katemonster it is.
23:38 astro73|alice *sigh*
23:38 astro73|alice what can I get for $45 at bestbuy?
23:39 Katemonster three CDs?
23:39 Cprossu astro73|alice: uh.... a package with a DVI to VGA adapter, a Svideo cable, and a nvidia SGI bridge
23:39 Cprossu *SLI
23:39 Katemonster Red Alert 17?  no that's more like $60
23:39 astro73|alice .... thanks
23:39 Cprossu astro73|alice what do you mean though heh
23:40 astro73|alice I've got $45 in gift cards
23:40 Cprossu gift card or something?
23:40 Cprossu oooh ok
23:40 Cprossu for a few dollars more you can buy a [strike]Western[/strike] Antec 300 case iirc
23:40 Katemonster gift cards.  the gift that says "i put as little thought into what i should get you as possible."
23:40 Cprossu Katemonster: I love getting cash!
23:40 astro73|alice and stuff I would like most: external drive, RAM, computer speakers, or a better solution for ipod in my car
23:40 astro73|alice .yt dilbert gift cards
23:41 BotSteve astro73|alice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72nPAvvlNBo
23:41 Katemonster cash is awesome!  gift cards, less awesome.  still nice, but less so.
23:41 Cprossu astro73|alice I wonder..
23:41 Cprossu do bb gift cards work for their' online partners?
23:42 injektion Dual MIPS 250MHz CPUs are shit for web browsing
23:42 astro73|alice no ide
23:42 astro73|alice looking through their online offerings didn't give me much hope
23:42 injektion I have Maya 6.5 on here it is slow but usable
23:43 astro73|alice there's one after-market car stereo within my price range that can connect to iPods, and it's a secret sales price
23:43 astro73|alice and i don't even know if a prizm can take aftermarket stereos
23:45 roadran422 Who is in to games?
23:45 injektion I'm still using the OEM stereo in my car
23:45 roadran422 COD Black ops on the Wii?
23:45 roadran422 If anyone plays it... I need help, can't connect to internet?
23:46 injektion Cprossu, Do telnet clients usually respond to identd requests?
23:46 astro73|alice injektion: I am too, but I'm unhappy with having to use a crappy FM transmitter with my ipod
23:47 injektion My radio doesn't even pick up FM signals any more
23:47 Cprossu http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Cooler+Master+-+Elite+370+Mid-Tower+Chassis/2969326.p?id=1218367940048&amp;skuId=2969326
23:47 Cprossu hrmmm
23:47 BotSteve Title: Cooler Master - Elite 370 Mid-Tower Chassis - RC-370-KKN1
23:47 Cprossu ^ @ astro73|alice still looking though
23:48 astro73|alice ... why would I want a chasis? I've got a perfectly good one
23:48 injektion The only thing that works is the cassette player
23:49 Cprossu I am just cruising parts
23:49 Cprossu all the video cards suck. ANY fm adapter for cars...sucks
23:49 injektion It's quite sad when the radio was made in japan lol
23:50 astro73|alice i actually got a video card last year
23:50 astro73|alice my 2GB of RAM could probably use a boost, though
23:50 Cprossu ddr2?
23:51 Cprossu or 3?
23:51 astro73|alice DDR2, i don't remember exactly what specs
23:51 Cprossu ddr2-800 is probably a good bet
23:52 astro73|alice I've got the model though
23:52 astro73|alice DDR2-800/677/533
23:53 Cprossu rofl.
23:53 Cprossu so ddr2-800
23:53 astro73|alice the stuff I've got in there is marked as 675MHz
23:53 Cprossu what os you running?
23:53 astro73|alice linux
23:54 Cprossu nothing fancy like a workstation right?
23:54 Cprossu (ddr2 800 will run everything but 1066, and the likelyhood of anything benefiting from 1066 is nil)
23:54 Cprossu WOW
23:54 Cprossu that is....creative...
23:55 Cprossu http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Startech.com+-+Storage+Enclosure+-+Internal+-+Black/4506219.p?id=1218479602854&amp;skuId=4506219
23:55 BotSteve Title: Startech.com - Storage Enclosure - Internal - Black - S25SLOTR
23:55 astro73|alice nope, it's just an intel 965 board
23:56 astro73|alice that is creative

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