Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-26

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00:02 Cprossu http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Seagate+-+FreeAgent+Go+250GB+External+USB+2.0+Portable+Hard+Drive+-+Black/8992619.p?id=1218007086102&skuId=8992619&st=external%20hard%20drive&cp=1&lp=1
00:02 BotSteve Title: Seagate - FreeAgent Go 250GB External USB 2.0 Portable Hard Drive - Black - ST902503FA
00:02 Cprossu sadly the cheapest laptop hdd on their site is like $75 and the cheapest enclosure like $10
00:02 Cprossu which means the prepackaged externals are cheaper
00:04 Cprossu and the mounting kit for your car radio would be $20, the antenna adapter $10 (likely), and probably another $15 for the wiring harness, and another $5 for assorted electrical goodies, then you're looking at no money left for the head unit itself
00:04 Cprossu astro73|alice I am guessing your car audio doesn't have an AUX in?
00:05 astro73|alice nope
00:05 astro73|alice radio and cd only
00:05 Cprossu what stereo do you have in there, make/model/year car if stock?
00:05 astro73|alice 1993 geo prizm stock
00:05 Cprossu oh god.
00:05 Cprossu no option for cd changer was there?
00:05 astro73|alice *shrug*'
00:05 astro73|alice no idea
00:05 Cprossu I didn't think CD was an option that year
00:05 Cprossu it's not stock is it?
00:05 astro73|alice i think it is?
00:06 astro73|alice it doesn't have an internal cd changer
00:06 Cprossu oooh
00:06 Cprossu I think you got the toyota camry version eh?
00:06 astro73|alice and I'm a fan of putting my ipod on shuffle
00:06 astro73|alice i did?
00:07 astro73|alice as far as i can tell, it's stock. it's at least the same manufacturer as the one in the manual
00:07 Cprossu yeah you got a toyota!
00:07 astro73|alice it's also double-high
00:07 astro73|alice i did?
00:07 Cprossu 1.6 or 1.8 engine?
00:07 astro73|alice *shrug*
00:08 astro73|alice i know it's auto with 3 speeds
00:08 astro73|alice the family got it used for $500
00:09 Cprossu http://nicedawg.net/images/cars/prizm/IMG_1570.jpg
00:09 injektion More specifically a toyota corolla
00:09 astro73|alice no tape deck in mine
00:09 Cprossu ^ does it look like that minus the tape?
00:10 astro73|alice the dash is right, and the head is about the same style
00:13 astro73|alice i suppose i could go outside and take a photo of it
00:13 Cprossu astro73|alice also pop your hood, look for the emissions sticker with the hoses stuff on it
00:13 Cprossu and it will tell you what engine you have
00:13 Cprossu (eg 1.6L 1.8L)
00:13 astro73|alice k
00:29 astro73|alice well, that was interesting
00:34 astro73|alice I think it's a 1.6L, dash is http://i.imgur.com/YWqVq.jpg
00:35 astro73|alice Cprossu: you got that?
00:39 injektion Mmmk on the Octane now I am using the bash shell now
00:40 injektion Now to customize it
00:41 injektion Can someone give me an example of their bash prompt?
00:42 Cprossu interesting astro73|alice
00:42 Cprossu delco radio
00:42 astro73|alice injektion: I use zsh with oh-my-zsh
00:42 astro73|alice Cprossu: yes. is that significant?
00:42 Cprossu it tells me that there _could_ be a aux in for a cd changer
00:43 astro73|alice oh, in the back?
00:43 astro73|alice that would be cool, i could have ipod and ram
00:43 Cprossu or at the least inside the radio
00:43 astro73|alice i've never even tried to pull out the radio, so I have no idea
00:44 astro73|alice what I know is that photo and the stuff in the manual
00:44 Cprossu fair enough
00:44 Cprossu I don't have the service info for that car handy sadly
00:44 Cprossu bbiab
00:45 astro73|alice i've got the VIN?
00:45 Cprossu I mean it'll take a bit of chugging
00:45 astro73|alice oh, ok
00:45 Cprossu I have nearly everything '97 and over
00:45 Cprossu but..... 93 is going to be a pita.
00:45 astro73|alice there i go again, challenging your resources
00:46 astro73|alice KDL has the chitin's for it online
00:47 astro73|alice *chilton
00:49 injektion I'll be awake all night trying to get my bash prompt to look right
00:52 astro73|mal joined #thegeekgroup
00:52 BotSteve Master. *bows*
00:53 astro73|mal injektion, mine was PROMPT_COMMAND='echo -ne "\033]0;${USER}@${HOSTNAME}: ${PWD/$HOME/~}\007"'
00:54 injektion I liked the csh prompt jello 1#
00:54 injektion complete with a history number
00:54 astro73|alice *shrug* you asked, you received
00:55 injektion [\d \t \u@\h:\w \!]
00:55 injektion Is what I have now and it looks awful
00:55 injektion [Sun Dec 25 21:07:37 kisleyw@jello:/usr/nekoware 16]
00:55 injektion I could go without the date
00:55 astro73|alice that's easy
00:55 astro73|alice drop \d and \t
00:55 roadran422 So... What's the new?
00:56 roadran422 [\u@\h:\w \!]
00:56 roadran422 Idk
00:56 roadran422 ...
00:56 roadran422 Lol thought it was a botsteve thing lol
00:57 roadran422 Hi wannabe
00:57 wannabe1987 hi
00:58 astro73|alice brb
00:58 astro73|alice joined #thegeekgroup
00:58 injektion Oh great it didn't save the seetings
00:58 injektion settings
00:58 astro73|alice ok, hopefully that's a little better
00:59 astro73|alice injektion: i kept them in ~/.bashrc
00:59 roadran422 Lol, injektion: first rule always ave things!
00:59 roadran422 *save
00:59 injektion I don't even have a .bashrc
00:59 astro73|alice sounds like a good time to start one
01:00 injektion Shouldn't one be made when I first one bash?
01:00 injektion run*
01:00 astro73|alice http://gist.github.com/1520202 was mine
01:00 BotSteve Title: My .bashrc — Gist
01:00 astro73|alice no. it uses compiled-in default values
01:02 injektion o it specifically states that '.bashrc' is executed when the shell is NOT a login shell. If you want initialization every time bash is invoked, use '.profile'
01:03 astro73|alice i think .profile often calls .bashrc?
01:03 astro73|alice mine does
01:04 injektion http://goput.it/h3n.png
01:04 astro73|alice but you can also use .bash_profile and .bash_login
01:04 astro73|alice pastebins are your friend
01:05 injektion Lazy
01:05 astro73|alice https://gist.github.com/1520202#file_.profile is mine
01:05 BotSteve Title: My .bashrc — Gist
01:07 astro73|alice (this is all modified ubuntu files, iirc)
01:07 injektion Yeah but that isn't IRIX
01:09 astro73|alice it's Bash, though
01:09 astro73|alice it should be enough to get you started, yes?
01:10 astro73|alice esp if irix uses the GNU userspace
01:11 injektion less pipe doesn't exist
01:11 astro73|alice it's ok; it doesn't do much afaik
01:12 astro73|alice like I said, enough to get you started
01:12 injektion I'll get started on it tomorrow
01:25 Cprossu damn I can't find the FSM @ astro73|alice
01:25 Cprossu this will be a task for tomorrow
01:26 astro73|alice chilton's online doesn't have anything useful
01:26 Cprossu chiltons is garbage
01:26 Cprossu as is haynes
01:26 injektion <3 bently repair manuals
01:26 astro73|alice http://www.the12volt.com/installbay/stereodetail/961.html indicates that it doesn't have a line-in
01:26 BotSteve Title: 1993 Geo Prizm Stereo Wiring Information
01:27 Cprossu astro73|alice: it doesn't have a line in, if you don't have a soldering iron ;)
01:27 astro73|alice i've seen those hacks
01:27 astro73|alice i have an iron, but i don't think I could find the traces to solder
01:28 Cprossu it's a delco so it could be rather easy
01:29 astro73|alice also, i would be ok loosing the CD but I would like to keep the radio
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01:29 wannabe1987 hi Ponko
01:29 Ponko herro kelly
01:29 wannabe1987 you ok?
01:30 Ponko yep
01:31 wannabe1987 ok
01:31 astro73|alice Cprossu: thanks for the info
01:31 Ponko shh football is on :P
01:32 Cprossu good luck astro73|alice
01:32 roadran422 Which one soccer of football?
01:32 Cprossu sorry I couldn't be of more help yet
01:32 wannabe1987 lol ok
01:32 roadran422 Hi everyone...
01:32 wannabe1987 Hi hy
01:33 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: If you're having trouble finding the FSM, I can direct you to an ordained pastafarian minister.
01:33 roadran422 So....
01:33 roadran422 .g pastafarian
01:33 BotSteve roadran422: http://www.venganza.org/
01:33 Ponko roadran422: american footbal
01:33 roadran422 .wiki pastafarian
01:33 BotSteve "The Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) is the deity of the parody religion[1]|[2]| the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster or Pastafarianism." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastafarian
01:33 roadran422 xD ponko
01:33 roadran422 What the heck... o_O
01:34 Ponko wow
01:34 Ponko that's umm interesting....
01:34 roadran422 Yah.. ^
01:34 roadran422 Any one mind giving a bit more insight to such a odd topic?
01:35 * Ponko shrugs his shoulders
01:35 Monkeh|Lap How dare you demean my religion
01:35 * roadran422 agrees with ponko and does the same thing
01:36 roadran422 ...
01:38 * Ponko plays Madden
01:38 astro73|alice you've never heard of the flying spaghetti monster?
01:38 CaptainNiobe oh, wow... has sro even been on?
01:38 wannabe1987 .seen seroster
01:38 CaptainNiobe sero*
01:38 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Seroster 24.44 hours ago at 2011-12-25 01:12:15 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:38:53 UTC
01:38 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Seroster^Away 28.53 hours ago at 2011-12-24 21:07:18 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.
01:38 wannabe1987 no....
01:39 wannabe1987 he's afk for good :/
01:39 CaptainNiobe :-\
01:39 roadran422 Hey Captain
01:39 JA12 joined #thegeekgroup
01:39 wannabe1987 hi jani
01:39 CaptainNiobe g'day, roadran :)
01:39 JA12 :D
01:39 wannabe1987 hi rach :D
01:39 wannabe1987 hi hy
01:39 roadran422 Good morning in australia?
01:39 JA12 that was fast
01:39 wannabe1987 (lol thats fun to day)
01:39 CaptainNiobe he kelly lol
01:39 wannabe1987 what, me?
01:39 roadran422 Hi wanabe lol
01:39 JA12 hi
01:39 wannabe1987 i have two n's, btw, hy
01:40 roadran422 lol
01:40 CaptainNiobe it's 11:39am in brisbane :P
01:40 roadran422 Hahaha
01:40 roadran422 It's still morning.
01:41 CaptainNiobe just
01:41 roadran422 Hahahahaha
01:41 wannabe1987 its 8:41 here
01:41 wannabe1987 pm
01:41 Ponko well don't ask here how she is
01:41 roadran422 I say 8:42, clock is adjusted to naso time...
01:41 roadran422 Or atomic time as I know
01:42 roadran422 .toco
01:42 roadran422 .tock
01:42 BotSteve "Mon, 26 Dec 2011 01:42:40 GMT" - tycho.usno.navy.mil
01:42 wannabe1987 .t tgg
01:42 BotSteve Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:42:47 TGG
01:43 roadran422 .t tgg
01:43 BotSteve Sun, 25 Dec 2011 21:43:27 TGG
01:43 roadran422 .tock
01:43 BotSteve "Mon, 26 Dec 2011 01:43:31 GMT" - tycho.usno.navy.mil
01:43 roadran422 Clock is a minute fast! NO!
01:44 Ponko omg
01:44 roadran422 xD
01:46 wannabe1987 lol
01:46 roadran422 How did i manage to do that? :( lol
01:47 Monkeh|Lap Do what?
01:47 roadran422 My clock is 1 minute fast.
01:47 roadran422 It's a 20buck casio
01:47 Ponko because you fail?
01:47 roadran422 :P
01:47 Monkeh|Lap Clocks drift.
01:47 Monkeh|Lap That's why we have atomic ones.
01:47 roadran422 It was 20 dollars!
01:47 roadran422 Lol
01:47 roadran422 I wanted one lol
01:47 roadran422 But :(
01:48 Monkeh|Lap Cheapo
01:48 roadran422 It was for christmas.
01:48 roadran422 Ok.
01:48 roadran422 :P
01:48 Monkeh|Lap My watch was.. $180 or so at the time.
01:48 Ponko i think ashens would love it
01:48 roadran422 Either this or a 250 dollar one.
01:48 roadran422 I was keeping my eye on a nice casio.
01:48 Monkeh|Lap I keep a nice Casio on my wrist.
01:49 roadran422 Haha
01:50 roadran422 Was looking at this watch right here: www.casio.com/products/Watches/G-Shock/G9300GY-1/
01:50 Monkeh|Lap Ahh, mudman. A bit bulky, but tough.
01:50 roadran422 For a small wrist maybe haha
01:51 roadran422 How do you wear your watch? On the left arm or right arm? On top or bottom? xD
01:51 Monkeh|Lap Depends what I'm doing.
01:52 roadran422 What's common? xD, I am trying to get used to my watch
01:52 wannabe1987 wear it on the arm you do not write with
01:52 Monkeh|Lap Find something comfortable and stick with it.
01:52 roadran422 Ok that's left arm....
02:02 wannabe1987 lol
02:02 wannabe1987 YOU.KILLED.CHAT
02:02 roadran422 Lol
02:02 roadran422 xD
02:06 * wannabe1987 has tea to take home now :D
02:06 roadran422 Hahaha
02:06 roadran422 Lemon, Tea, Honey!
02:06 wannabe1987 i have honey at home already
02:06 roadran422 Thanks to Captain Niobe.
02:06 roadran422 Well.. You still need it... x
02:06 roadran422 *xD
02:06 wannabe1987 ok
02:06 wannabe1987 i'm going to head home
02:06 wannabe1987 bbl
02:07 roadran422 Adios! Wannabe
02:10 sndwrx let's go chi-town, let's go!
02:10 sndwrx let's go chi-town, let's go!
02:10 sndwrx let's go chi-town, let's go!
02:11 Ponko wow that was a crap pass
02:11 roadran422 Chi town?
02:11 roadran422 China Town?
02:11 Ponko Chicago
02:11 roadran422 Ok... xD
02:11 roadran422 I don't watch sports other than basketball!
02:11 sndwrx Chicago Bears vs Green Bay Packers.
02:12 Ponko sndwrx: aren't you a Lions fan?
02:12 sndwrx My buddy is a big Packers fan and I lived in Chicago several years
02:12 sndwrx so
02:12 Ponko nothing i was just wondering
02:12 Ponko i do like Chicago
02:12 Ponko nice city
02:13 sndwrx I like 'em both
02:13 roadran422 Lakers fan right here. I hate celtics though.
02:13 sndwrx (teams, not cities)
02:13 Ponko Green Bay is lovely a city though
02:13 sndwrx I was speaking in regard to Detroit and Chicago.
02:14 Ponko i gathered
02:14 sndwrx I like both teams, but don't particularly care for Detroit as a city.  :P
02:14 Ponko FUMBLE!!!!!!!!!!
02:14 sndwrx Armpit of the world.
02:14 * sndwrx chuckles.
02:14 Ponko Detroit home of Robocop
02:15 Ponko if the tigers win a world series it might turn around
02:15 sndwrx Home of Robocop?
02:16 sndwrx Tigers winning a world series isn't going to fix Detroit.
02:16 Ponko yeah i know but it would be nice
02:16 sndwrx You live like five time zones away.
02:16 sndwrx hah
02:16 Ponko yeah someone tried to sell me a house there
02:17 sndwrx You can buy houses all over for a dollar.
02:17 sndwrx Of course, the windows have been smashed, the furnace and water heater are gone, and all the plumbing and electrical wiring has been ripped out of the walls.
02:18 roadran422 How much was it?
02:18 Ponko wow Chicago a 3rd string runner a retired QB and guess what, we're playing like crap
02:18 Ponko well i say something bad about the pack and i suddenly eat my words
02:18 sndwrx Clay Matthews needs to cut that Bon Jovi hair.
02:18 Ponko lol
02:18 Ponko he's Hollywood
02:20 Ponko and if you told him to do that he'd crush you lol
02:20 sndwrx yuck
02:20 sndwrx so gross.
02:20 Ponko man why does he do that
02:20 Ponko Aaron Rodgers thinks what Clay does is stupid
02:21 sndwrx I'd pummel him with an Oscar clippers and Fiskars shears.
02:21 Ponko lol
02:21 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
02:22 sndwrx wb wannabe1987
02:23 sndwrx Turn on the football game.  Chicago needs as much energy rallied behind it as possible.
02:23 Ponko lol if i was playing i'd do what Lance Briggs did and pull a face at the camera
02:24 Ponko Wisconsin home of cheese
02:24 Ponko Green Bay home of Swiss Cheese D
02:25 Ponko 13-2?
02:26 wannabe1987 thx
02:26 Ponko wow spent a year behind Jon Kitna?
02:27 wannabe1987 stupid bathroom
02:27 Ponko we're playing the back up to the back up
02:27 wannabe1987 what kind of a bathroom doesn't have a plunger?
02:27 Ponko oh why do they play bad when i watch them?
02:28 wannabe1987 um, you're bad luck?
02:28 Ponko probably
02:34 wannabe1987 who are you watching?
02:38 Ponko Green Bay vs Chicago
02:38 wannabe1987 i figured
02:39 Ponko lol
02:39 wannabe1987 but i know better than to assume
02:39 Ponko when did we get Miami 1980's defense?
02:39 Ponko ok maybe they're not THAT bad but c'mon
02:40 * wannabe1987 goes to find her headphones again
02:40 wannabe1987 i should have waited 1/2 hour or so to come home :/
02:40 Ponko good luck
02:40 wannabe1987 stupid landlords
02:41 wannabe1987 i realize you're newly married and all, but you DO HAVE PEOPLE LIVING IN THE BASEMENT
02:42 CaptainNiobe lol... get used to it, kelly, that's gonna happen for a while... :D
02:43 wannabe1987 lol i know
02:44 Ponko ah we needed that TD
02:45 Ponko sndwrx: you're name Craig?
02:45 sndwrx nope
02:45 Ponko ok don't worry
02:45 wannabe1987 thats ynos
02:45 Ponko ah right
02:47 Ponko i wish i was there right now
02:47 yNos hiya all
02:47 BotSteve ynos: I have the following messages for you:
02:47 BotSteve At 23 Dec 23:44Z, dr_jkl asked me to tell ynos i think he's cute1
02:47 yNos lol, Thanks dr_jkl
02:47 CaptainNiobe g'day yNos, have a good christmas?
02:47 Ponko yNos i see a near 98% success on that challenge
02:47 wannabe1987 hi yNos
02:48 wannabe1987 awww i left my stocking stuff at my parents house
02:48 * Ponko is happy he got Madden
02:49 * wannabe1987 doesn't know what to spend her itunes gc on....
02:51 Cprossu evening yNos
02:51 * Cprossu bought a $40 headset that broke in 4 days, bleh!
02:51 Ponko if the Lions get to the Super Bowl i'll have respect for them
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02:53 Ponko if Cincy win next week that'll be 3 teams from the AFC south
02:53 Ponko North*
02:54 wannabe1987 how did it break, Cprossu?
02:56 wannabe1987 my cousin spent christmas eve in the ER in cali right before flying to MI cuz he ate a nut.
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03:01 wannabe1987 merry christmas, newtoz
03:01 Cprossu pretty much I went to take them off and it snapped in two places
03:02 Cprossu (Corsair Vengence 1100)
03:02 wannabe1987 uh oh.  better complain/return them
03:02 NeWtoz-phone Happy Holidays
03:02 Cprossu I sent off a rma to corsair
03:02 Cprossu we'll see how/if they respond
03:03 wannabe1987 rma?
03:03 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Corsair quality.
03:03 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap: indeed =(
03:03 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Get some proper headphones.
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03:03 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap screw that
03:03 NeWtoz-phone Wrong button
03:03 wannabe1987 lol
03:03 Cprossu finding one that has a good mic in it is impossible
03:03 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Sennheiser.
03:04 Monkeh|Lap Open your wallet wide, though.
03:04 Cprossu I'm not going to spend $180 on something that on any given day I could sit on accidently
03:04 Monkeh|Lap So get a hook
03:04 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsFZxQ4mfLM&amp;feature=related
03:04 BotSteve Title: "My Wish" series (2010): Anna's wish to meet the Green Bay Packers - YouTube
03:04 Monkeh|Lap Anyway, these aren't cheap flimsy shit
03:04 Cprossu last time I had a hook
03:04 astro73|alice I got bored, so I played vvvvvv
03:04 Cprossu it broke in 1/2 when a cat jumped on it...
03:04 astro73|alice i found it hard
03:04 Cprossu then the plantronics headset crashed to the ground
03:04 Cprossu and broke.
03:05 Ponko i like those wishes
03:05 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: It'd have to be one fat cat to break mine. :P
03:05 Cprossu yeah I bet.
03:05 Cprossu in this case the cat didn't break them
03:05 Cprossu the concrete floor did
03:05 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: 2mm steel tube was handy. It got used.
03:06 Cprossu I love my gamecom 307's but the wire was too thin and there's an open in it somewhere
03:06 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: http://www.sennheiser.com/sennheiser/home_en.nsf/root/professional_headphones-headsets_professional-headsets_004976 Man headset.
03:06 BotSteve Title: Sennheiser Worldwide - HMD 280 PRO Headset - communications in high noise environments, PRO headphones, super-cardioid microphone
03:06 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Or just get some headphones and a desktop mic.
03:06 Cprossu if I am going to spend that much on a headset, let me show you what I was gonna do
03:07 NeWtoz-phone Ponko, the game has neen meh for me
03:07 NeWtoz-phone But I am slightly rooting for GB
03:07 Ponko omg Tramon Williams what on earth are you doing the slip i can accept but ducking out of a tackle?
03:07 Cprossu here's your hint Monkeh|Lap: http://www.sportys.com/pilotshop/product/14122
03:07 BotSteve Title: USB Headset Adaptor - Sporty's Pilot Shop
03:08 Ponko NeWtoz-phone: you're already in anyway
03:08 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Won't sound nearly as good.
03:08 Cprossu yeah but they will survive
03:08 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I got years old of my previous pair. New ones are better built.
03:08 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sennheiser-HMEC-450-ANR-Pilot-Headset-/230719840049?pt=Motors_Aviation_Parts_Gear&amp;vxp=mtr&amp;hash=item35b7f95f31
03:08 BotSteve Title: Sennheiser HMEC 450 ANR Pilot Headset (615104115804) | eBay
03:09 Cprossu again if I am going to spend that much on a headset.
03:09 Ponko wow the Pack aren't going to win it all this year
03:09 Ponko 13-3 14-2 15-1 it won't matter they won win
03:09 NeWtoz-phone Yeah, it would be that next week you wouldn't have as much to play for
03:09 wannabe1987 facebook's new photo uploader is nifty, but my computer doesn't like it
03:09 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: You'll buy one which doesn't sound half as good. Okay..
03:09 Ponko neither does my
03:10 Cprossu I can trade durability for sound quality.
03:10 Ponko NeWtoz-phone: the lions are like the 80's 49ers
03:10 Ponko but not completely
03:10 NeWtoz-phone If you win you get home field
03:10 Ponko just ONE thing Stafford-Johnson Jr.
03:11 Cprossu also Monkeh|Lap, if I wanted sound qual I could just push my computer to my Polk M5jr's
03:12 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: But they're speakers.
03:12 Cprossu yeah but this is just for gaming
03:12 Cprossu not actually doing production video/audio
03:12 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Then buy one of the lower end Sennheiser headsets. They're still way, way better than the other crap.
03:13 Ponko NeWtoz-phone: you think you can win it?
03:13 dr_jkl Monkeh|Lap: speaks the truth, Cprossu
03:13 dr_jkl sennheiser makes good shit
03:13 NeWtoz-phone Win what?
03:13 Cprossu they do dr_jkl
03:13 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Perhaps not the best but they're comfy and durable. :)
03:13 Cprossu and I've killed them before
03:13 Monkeh|Lap They'll suit me.
03:14 Ponko the Super Bowl NeWtoz-phone
03:14 Cprossu I dislike breaking expensive shit!
03:14 dr_jkl well i have the senheiser wireless ones
03:14 dr_jkl for my office
03:14 dr_jkl no more leaning bacck and snagging my ears
03:14 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: So don't get the really expensive shit!
03:14 Monkeh|Lap http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-330-GAME-Headset/dp/B003DA4D34/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324869199&amp;sr=8-1
03:14 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: PC 330 GAME Headset: Electronics
03:14 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
03:14 BotSteve TOASTY!
03:14 Cprossu you're talking double my budget.
03:14 Ponko yay Toasty
03:15 NeWtoz-phone Depends, but i wouldn't bet on it
03:15 dr_jkl i dont like how the cans on the wireless headset dont have the foam rings to better isolate outside noise
03:15 Toastdude Hello
03:15 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Okay, even these are probably better than anything else at that price: http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-PC-151-Noise-Canceling-Microphone/dp/B000NOR89Y/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1324869293&amp;sr=8-2
03:15 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Sennheiser PC 151 Binaural Headset with Noise-Canceling Microphone & Volume Control: Electronics
03:15 dr_jkl somewhere, a geek has a boner because i said a pair of headphones has giant cans. lol
03:15 Ponko good because if Stafford gets hurt or Johnson Jr. is kept out of the game
03:15 Ponko you won't
03:16 Toastdude .seen wannabe1987
03:16 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe1987 0.11 hours ago at 2011-12-26 03:09:29 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:16:20 UTC
03:16 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe-afk 4.61 hours ago at 2011-12-25 22:39:59 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:16 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe-zz 43.55 hours ago at 2011-12-24 07:43:23 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:16 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw zombie1987 76.15 hours ago at 2011-12-22 23:07:41 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:16 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe|tgg 153.08 hours ago at 2011-12-19 18:11:27 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
03:16 BotSteve Toastdude: (3 more)
03:16 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
03:16 BotSteve You're welcome, Toastdude
03:16 roadran422 Toastdude!
03:16 NeWtoz-phone It also depends on how everyone gets seeded
03:16 roadran422 HEY!
03:16 Ponko damn how many does she need
03:16 Toastdude Roadrad!
03:16 Cprossu http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Plantronics+-+GameCom+307+Over-the-Ear+Gaming+Headset/2700177.p?id=1218345396416&amp;skuId=2700177&amp;st=gamecom%20307&amp;cp=1&amp;lp=1
03:16 BotSteve Title: Plantronics - GameCom 307 Over-the-Ear Gaming Headset - GameCom 307
03:16 Cprossu BASTARDS
03:16 Cprossu they are on sale now
03:16 Cprossu (I paid $35 for those pos)
03:17 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Eewww.
03:17 Cprossu they actually sound good
03:17 Ponko NeWtoz-phone: it's the same as every year i think but i think you mean something else
03:17 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I wouldn't use those if I was paid to.
03:17 Cprossu the problem was the wiring Monkeh
03:17 Monkeh|Lap I had a pair which looked almost identical to those. I smashed them because it physically hurt to wear them.
03:17 NeWtoz-phone Depends on who we play
03:17 Monkeh|Lap And compared to a half decent pair they did not sound good.
03:17 Ponko yeah true
03:18 Ponko you'll  be 5th seed
03:18 Cprossu Monkeh my gamecomm 377's were exactly like that Monkeh|Lap
03:18 Cprossu as you describe
03:18 NeWtoz-phone Not for sure yet
03:18 NeWtoz-phone We could get 6th
03:18 Cprossu http://www.plantronics.com/images/catalog/product_fullsize/gamecom377.jpg
03:18 Cprossu ^ Monkeh these were terrible.
03:18 * Ponko goes to check standings
03:19 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: No, not those.
03:19 Ponko NeWtoz-phone: wanna take this private?
03:19 Monkeh|Lap Although those look very uncomfortable.
03:19 NeWtoz-phone Let me pull out my laptop first
03:19 Cprossu the 377 sucked.
03:19 Ponko sure thing mate
03:20 Cprossu first thing that went was the volume pot, despite never being used
03:20 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Don't even notice I'm wearing them: http://www.hifiheadphones.co.uk/images/sennheiser-hd380-565x565.jpg
03:20 dr_jkl ok seriously
03:20 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
03:20 Cprossu I give the fuck up.
03:20 dr_jkl why can anyone ever love battlestar galactica?
03:20 dr_jkl it's SO CHEESY.
03:20 roadran422 Hi wanabe1987
03:20 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Wasn't saying to buy those.
03:20 Cprossu which one dr_jkl?
03:21 dr_jkl the um new one.
03:21 dr_jkl that was on scifi for forever and a decade
03:21 Cprossu cheesy?!
03:21 Cprossu did you look at the old one?
03:21 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I'm this close to giving up on advising people not to buy headphones from the likes of Plantronics. Nobody listens..
03:21 dr_jkl CHEESY.
03:21 dr_jkl departures from real science ftl
03:21 dr_jkl star trek has more believable science!
03:21 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: And yet in other ways they did a half decent job of things.
03:22 dr_jkl we *HAVE* things like transparent aluminum. It exists.
03:22 Cprossu I've been through plantronics, sennheiser, logitech, altec lansing, all have sucked for various reasons
03:22 dr_jkl have you SEEN a cylon? ANYWHERE?
03:22 roadran422 dr_jkl, have you seen csi?
03:22 Cprossu the best headset I ever had was a POS A4 tech pair
03:22 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Plantronics, Logitech, and a whole pile of even cheaper brands.. Rarely last three months.
03:22 dr_jkl roadran422: yes
03:23 Cprossu http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSM5Urg6d3LpCHTQpSkLyKfxXwxGE_U7EVvP9Ece6ho1gLzwzZtRGnQMiCf
03:23 roadran422 Dr Jkl! Hahaha
03:23 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Sennheiser HD515s. Two years on the first cable, year on the second and then one side broke off.
03:23 roadran422 Serical killer!
03:23 Cprossu ^ best headset I owned yet.
03:23 roadran422 *Serial Killer
03:23 Cprossu it took me 4 1/2 years to kill it.
03:23 Cprossu and was comfortable.
03:23 dr_jkl but forensics shows often have wild departures from the land of what actually happens
03:23 dr_jkl you expect that
03:23 Cprossu despite looking like a chinese torture device
03:23 NeWtoz ok Ponko
03:23 Cprossu and it had braided nylon cables
03:23 roadran422 Lol
03:24 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Cost of 515s and one replacement cable: £60. Cost of headphones over the three years before that: ~£150 of cheap jokes.
03:24 dr_jkl heh my sennheisers havent' been killed by rammstein yet
03:24 Ponko ok NeWtoz
03:24 NeWtoz pm or channel?
03:24 masterofmonks Damnit that brand always makes me think of Blade Runner.
03:25 roadran422 MoMmy!
03:25 roadran422 xD
03:25 roadran422 Hermaphrodite
03:25 * masterofmonks raises an eyebrow.
03:25 roadran422 ... :)
03:25 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: Don't mind him.
03:25 roadran422 -_-
03:25 dr_jkl o.o
03:25 * dr_jkl scratches her head
03:26 dr_jkl make sense
03:26 roadran422 Hahaha
03:26 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: He never does.
03:26 roadran422 Monkeh. Excuse me?
03:26 masterofmonks dr_jkl: who?
03:26 wannabe1987 status update: "just bought 10tb of raid storage.  merry christmas to me"  me: you know what firends are video producers  when they talk of big storage
03:26 * exor674 HUGS dr_jkl
03:26 dr_jkl masterofmonks: roadran422
03:27 dr_jkl hey exor674 hon,
03:27 Toastdude I saw the "dr" from dr_jkl and "who..."
03:27 * dr_jkl hugs1
03:27 roadran422 ..?
03:27 dr_jkl what's up?  :)
03:27 exor674 was just sayin HIIII!
03:27 Toastdude exor674: !
03:27 * dr_jkl shows off her sonic screwdriver? ;)
03:27 wannabe1987 o.O
03:27 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Or me with some spare cash.. ;)
03:27 wannabe1987 hi dredre!
03:27 wannabe1987 lol
03:27 wannabe1987 he works for a video production company....
03:27 * Toastdude has wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff
03:27 exor674 also, randomly, I got a no-contact voltage tester for christmas, and was trying to show off to my mom that you could set it off by rubbing it on clothing
03:27 * Monkeh|Lap has an 8TB array
03:27 roadran422 Who's calling me weird!
03:27 roadran422 xD
03:27 wannabe1987 he even shot obama once!
03:27 exor674 ... I couldn't get it to go off on my outfit *G*
03:28 exor674 ( freaking natural fibers )
03:28 wannabe1987 lol
03:28 Monkeh|Lap exor674: Now wait for it to remain totally silent right next to a live circuit!
03:28 dr_jkl someone should send me a rackmount server for yule
03:28 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Pay the shipping and you can perhaps have my Itanic.
03:28 exor674 Monkeh|Lap: nah, it worked on a random AC plug lying around in the place + my moms jacket
03:28 exor674 which was synthetic
03:28 Monkeh|Lap exor674: Doesn't mean it'll work every time.
03:28 dr_jkl Monkeh|Lap:  specs?
03:28 exor674 heh point :P
03:29 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Er.. dual Itanium 2 1.4GHz, 1GB RAM (one faulty stick, ECC takes care of it), two 73GB 10k HDDs..
03:29 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Takes DDR-333 ECC four sticks at a time.
03:29 dr_jkl i could get some. parity ftw!\
03:29 dr_jkl Monkeh|Lap: what's shippping on it?
03:29 dr_jkl find out, i r interested
03:29 wannabe1987 my back itches and noone to scratch it...
03:29 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: It's a 2U server, weighs about 30kg. Over the pond.. more than buying one over there. ;)
03:29 roadran422 o_0
03:29 wannabe1987 overseas?  damn
03:29 dr_jkl blah
03:30 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: :)
03:30 wannabe1987 .c 30kg to lbs
03:30 BotSteve 66.1386787 pounds
03:30 wannabe1987 o.O
03:30 dr_jkl i would seriously consider the trade sexual favors for rackmount gear
03:30 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Not overly heavy.
03:30 dr_jkl i'm a sysadmin without any of my own rackmount gear. this makes me sad.
03:30 wannabe1987 no, i see that.  weighs more than my 10 year old sister tho
03:30 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: So would I, I'd kill for a rack. :P
03:30 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Goddamn things cost a fortune over here.
03:30 wannabe1987 .g cannon t3i
03:30 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://usa.canon.com/cusa/consumer/products/cameras/slr_cameras/eos_rebel_t3i_18_55mm_is_ii_kit
03:30 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: buy a Lack @ Ikea and put a rackmount switch in it?
03:30 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I have the following messages for you:
03:31 BotSteve At 25 Dec 14:26Z, KB3NZQ_Biostar asked me to tell tonsofpcs merry christmas
03:31 roadran422 .tell toastdude Hi
03:31 BotSteve Sorry, .tell is not yet implemented.  Use BotSteve: tell
03:31 Toastdude ...
03:31 roadran422 BotSteve: tell Toastdude Hi
03:31 BotSteve roadran422: I'll pass that on when Toastdude is around.
03:31 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: The Itanic sits on some foam to soften the noise in my loft.
03:31 Toastdude BotSteve: Tell roadran422 Hi
03:31 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when roadran422 is around.
03:31 BotSteve toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
03:31 BotSteve At 03:31Z, roadran422 asked me to tell toastdude Hi
03:31 * exor674 totally wants to get some rackmount hardware for herself
03:31 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
03:31 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
03:31 wannabe1987 if someone is here, you don't need to use tell, #justsayin
03:31 roadran422 Ik that :P
03:31 BotSteve roadran422: I have the following messages for you:
03:31 BotSteve At 03:31Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell roadran422 Hi
03:31 roadran422 Lol
03:31 Monkeh|Lap Not that it makes any noise right now, it's not been run in ages.
03:31 * tonsofpcs has 3 Lacks at home and nothing rackmounted to them.
03:31 wannabe1987 SPAM
03:31 Monkeh|Lap Too slow and fiddly to deal with
03:31 * wannabe1987 /dies
03:31 roadran422 Lol
03:32 roadran422 ?
03:32 tonsofpcs I've got a Lack at work with a powerstrip (And soon a network switch) to make bench testing easier
03:32 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: You don't even have any proper switches at home?
03:32 wannabe1987 roadran422: too much spam, i blew up
03:32 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
03:32 BotSteve At 03:32Z, Toastdude asked me to tell wannabe1987 hello.
03:32 Toastdude Spam is tasty.. :P
03:33 tonsofpcs the closest to a proper switch I have at home is a  Netgear GS504
03:33 dr_jkl i have a switch i got at a computer show, and my roomie has a linksys switch
03:33 tonsofpcs (or whatever the model number on it is)
03:33 roadran422 No cold spam is lol
03:33 dr_jkl still used to hearing switches called 'concentrators'
03:33 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Madness.
03:33 tonsofpcs hubs are concentrators, switches aren't.
03:33 * Monkeh|Lap likes his switches
03:33 Monkeh|Lap Even if they do make a racket
03:33 * wannabe1987 needs to clean her room. merry christmas?
03:34 roadran422 I think it's been past christmas for all the people around the world?
03:34 tonsofpcs feliz navidad?
03:34 roadran422 Lol
03:34 roadran422 Feliz Navidad!
03:34 tonsofpcs roadran422: it's 10:30 PM on December 25 on the eastern shores of the US.  Also note that some won't celebrate Christmas for 9 - 15 days from now...
03:34 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: I think it was sndwrx who knows where to get switches and other rack goodies cheap.
03:34 wannabe1987 no, its still the 25th here
03:34 exor674 next time I replace my wifi AP, I am so going to try and get a commercial-level one >_>
03:35 wannabe1987 at comprenew, here in gr :P
03:35 roadran422 Ok ok tonsofpcs you got me lol
03:35 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: And by cheap I mean servers for <$100 and switches for like $30.
03:35 wannabe1987 he took me there once (well, we met up there)
03:35 wannabe1987 mhm
03:35 dr_jkl O.O
03:35 dr_jkl orly
03:35 roadran422 Feliz Cumpleanos a ti, Feliz Cumpleanos a ti, Feliz Cumpleanos a Wannabe1987, Feliz Cumpleanos a ti
03:35 wannabe1987 come to gr, dr_jkl
03:35 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: No idea what sort of specs but.. give him a ping, I'm sure he can find you something juicy.
03:35 yNos Bah, back
03:36 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Find me a 24U or so bolt-together rack.
03:36 tonsofpcs bah, humbug?
03:36 Toastdude Well, a pretty general holiday greeting is "Happy Merry Christmuhanukwanzica!"
03:36 wannabe1987 no!  no schrooges here!
03:36 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Happy Holidays.
03:36 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: where are you?
03:36 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: The UK.
03:36 yNos Tracey is sick, so i get to play nurse.. not in a good way.
03:36 roadran422 What's the good and bad way?
03:36 Toastdude yNos!
03:36 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Where a 24U 900mm deep rack is on the odds of $400. Second hand.
03:36 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: probably will cost more to ship it (used) than the rack itself.
03:36 yNos Hiya Toastdude!
03:36 * masterofmonks gives Toastdude Monkeyb
03:36 roadran422 I'm the only odd ball here!
03:36 yNos was nice actually meeting you the other day
03:36 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Doesn't cost that much to ship a flat pack.
03:36 roadran422 No one knows me :(
03:37 exor674 and speaking of rackmount gear, I really wonder if I can find a rackmount server that's fairly low power consumption and I can shove 3 nics into
03:37 Toastdude I do...
03:37 tonsofpcs 900 mm... that's 40" or so?
03:37 masterofmonks Wait, that was supposed to be tonsofpcs
03:37 roadran422 :( lol
03:37 tonsofpcs you're giving me monkeyb?
03:37 yNos sorry i couldnt stick around and talk, had to help my mom/stepdad install a strut compresser.
03:37 Monkeh|Lap .c 900mm to inches
03:37 BotSteve 35.4330709 inches
03:37 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: 35.
03:37 wannabe1987 roadran422: come to GR....we'll get to know you .... /creepy look
03:37 masterofmonks Yeah, thought you might like something obscure liek that.
03:37 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Full depth, basically.
03:37 roadran422 Lol
03:37 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I have a bunch of square (19" deep) racks....
03:37 roadran422 .c the size of Monkeh|Lap's brain
03:37 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
03:37 Toastdude No, totally okay. I had to leave about 10 minutes after anyway..
03:38 Monkeh|Lap .c 19" mm
03:38 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
03:38 Monkeh|Lap BotSteve: Oh, you suck
03:38 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: an EIA rack is 19" wide
03:38 yNos So did you get a chance to see a tuned gemeni?
03:38 roadran422 xD
03:38 roadran422 HAHAHAHA
03:38 Monkeh|Lap .c 19 inch to mm
03:38 roadran422 That'
03:38 BotSteve 482.6 millimeters
03:38 Toastdude .c roadran422
03:38 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
03:38 roadran422 Yay! xd
03:38 roadran422 *xD
03:38 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yeah I just ne- never mind, that's nowhere near deep enough to be of utility.
03:38 Toastdude .c 10^80
03:38 BotSteve 1.0 × 10^(80)
03:38 roadran422 Pues, Adios todos aqui!
03:38 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: That's a glorified comms cabinet.
03:38 Monkeh|Lap I have those. They're cheap.
03:38 Monkeh|Lap Real racks are obscene over here.
03:38 Toastdude yNos: PM ^
03:40 yNos ;)
03:40 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: that's a real rack.  Back in the days when racks were either 2-post or 4-post, these things were "4-post full depth".  Now you crazy computer people and wanting to make everything 1RU have just made things twice as long, rather than just keeping them 2U at a decent depth and allowing for better cooling.....
03:40 dr_jkl oi ynos! happy $holday
03:40 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: My long kit IS 2U.
03:41 tonsofpcs anyway, I got a custom rack on wheels, ATA case, etc. from Calzone Cases/Anvil/whatever other name they go by... for about $700 for 25U
03:41 * masterofmonks gives Toastdude Wazoo
03:41 tonsofpcs (at 36" deep iirc)
03:41 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yeah, as if I can afford that for a few bits of steel angle with holes in it.
03:42 tonsofpcs should be able to find an open frame rack cheaper...
03:42 Monkeh|Lap If I could weld I could make a rack for an eighth of what these guys charge.
03:42 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Not ove rhere.
03:42 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: 24U will set me back in excess of $400 second hand.
03:42 Toastdude ....
03:42 Toastdude masterofmonks: tonsofpcs
03:42 Monkeh|Lap And that's usually pickup only.
03:42 masterofmonks No, this time I intended you Toastdude
03:43 Toastdude Oh, okay
03:43 yNos Hiya dr_jkl How was your $holiday ?
03:43 tonsofpcs squares, circles, or tapped?
03:43 Toastdude String holiday?
03:44 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Not a huge fan of tapped, cage nuts are fiddly but they work and can be replaced..
03:44 tonsofpcs circles or squares? (also, <3 the fancy mounting bars that my HP proliants come with)
03:44 exor674 I wish I had infinite $$$ >_>
03:44 exor674 I want to do so many cool things but it all costs $$
03:44 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Never seen anything but square over here, so square.
03:45 yNos erm.. did anyone try to dance nude at dec 22 5:30UTC?
03:45 yNos bonfires
03:45 Toastdude ...no?
03:45 Monkeh|Lap exor674: I wish I had enough to do just one thing.
03:45 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Why, looking to hook up with whoever you saw?
03:45 exor674 Monkeh|Lap: if I had $$$$$$$$$$$, I'd uh
03:45 wannabe1987 fly me to you?
03:45 tonsofpcs broadcast and other 4-post systems traditionally uses circles, telecomm racks (2 post) traditionally use squares.  the cage nuts are different.
03:45 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Other way round.
03:45 exor674 well that too! <3
03:45 exor674 and so get an OC24 or OC48 straight to my place
03:45 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's all square here.
03:46 exor674 ( nothing actually offers that as a service, but assuming I had a really really fat stack of bills, I could find someone who'd do it )
03:46 wannabe1987 no, she'd fly me to where she is....and then we'd fly back to GR so she can come to the lab :D
03:46 wannabe1987 (afaik they had a wheelchair once...) :P
03:46 exor674 :P
03:46 Monkeh|Lap exor674: Oh, easy enough to do.
03:46 yNos Monkeh|Lap: Nah, there were a few skyclad solstice parties back in the town i grew up in though ;)
03:46 Monkeh|Lap exor674: Just set yourself up as an ISP. ;)
03:46 exor674 Monkeh|Lap: a one-girl ISP?
03:46 Monkeh|Lap exor674: Yep.
03:47 exor674 or I guess I could feel charitable and give my entire building internet for a nominal fee
03:47 yNos thats the way to go
03:47 tonsofpcs I actually have zero racks with squares (but I have some parts with squares so I could change out part of a rack or add to one).  Most racks are bolted together with cross braces, not welded.
03:47 Monkeh|Lap exor674: Pff, if I could get a proper fat line here I'd give the whole street a half decent connection.
03:47 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: See, here it's all square, all welded, and all stupidly expensive.
03:47 * wannabe1987 wants someone to scratch her back please....
03:48 Monkeh|Lap Although the braces are bolted so you can move them around
03:48 * masterofmonks elects Toastdude
03:48 * Toastdude scratches wannabe'sback
03:48 wannabe1987 thx
03:48 tonsofpcs well, 2-post racks are welded.  Custom racks often get welded.  Sometimes a full front or back frame gets welded, but the angle irons rarely are
03:48 yNos wannabe1987: with a paintball gun?
03:48 wannabe1987 um no
03:48 yNos :P
03:49 wannabe1987 i don't need welts along with my sickness
03:49 yNos Just had Richard Cheese's versin of "Down with the sickness" bolt through my brain.
03:50 * wannabe1987 puts some semblance into her room tonight
03:50 tonsofpcs heh
03:50 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBOpk33VlSg
03:50 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: This is basically the cheapest you can get over here, and remarkably it is in fact bolted: http://www.zpas.pl/obr/sklep/WZ-SZB-017-17AA-11-0000-011-d.jpg
03:50 BotSteve Title: "Down With The Sickness" (dawn of the dead version) - YouTube
03:51 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: $476. For that.
03:51 Ponko sndwrx: you see that balloon?
03:51 Ponko lol
03:51 tonsofpcs random google search found this: http://www.starcase.com/detail.aspx?ID=745
03:51 BotSteve Title: Star Case - Detail
03:52 tonsofpcs that company apparently sells 'kits' of parts, you choose width depth and height and they sell it all together
03:52 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I see prices in USD.
03:52 tonsofpcs right, and it tells shipping weight....
03:53 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Shipping weight 'not a lot'.
03:53 tonsofpcs oh, hmm, it said 30lbs on the page that linkedd there
03:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I can lift that with one finger.
03:54 * wannabe1987 has the drink of the gods....diet coke :D
03:55 * yNos has the real drink of the gods, gin and juice ;)
03:55 Monkeh|Lap Where the hell is Radlett..
03:55 tonsofpcs I'm trying to find the folks I ordered from...
03:55 Monkeh|Lap Bah, Hertfordshire
03:56 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Can I just make it clear again that I'm not looking at purchasing a brand new, custom rack?
03:57 Monkeh|Lap Oh, hey, an affordable second hand ra- oh, wait, it's welded and in Leeds. Nope..
03:57 tonsofpcs good luck ffinding a 36" deep rack that isn't brand new and/or custom.
03:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: 800mm and 900mm are fairly standard over here..
03:57 dr_jkl okay seriously
03:57 * Toastdude is watching Mythbusters :D
03:58 * dr_jkl tries to figure out why she's afraid to look at porn on her new android tablet
03:58 tonsofpcs are you thinking 900 mmm rail-to-rail or front-door to back-door?
03:58 wannabe1987 yNos: only alcohol i have here is wine or rum, and i only  have a little bit rum left and its my REALLY good stuff :/
03:58 yNos porn?
03:58 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: because google is watching?
03:59 yNos what kind of tab?
03:59 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Both 800mm cabinets with 600mm rail spacing and 800/900mm spaced 4 posters are very common. As are 900mm cabinets with 800mm rail spacing.
03:59 Monkeh|Lap Ideally I'd like 800mm 4-post.
03:59 dr_jkl an asus eee pad - transformer tf101,
03:59 dr_jkl with optional keyboard.
03:59 wannabe1987 ew
03:59 Monkeh|Lap The whole cabinet thing just gets in the way.
03:59 dr_jkl so i essentially have a netbook.
04:00 dr_jkl i want to linux-ify it because xubuntu + tablet pc = win
04:00 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Xubuntu + anything = fail. ;P
04:00 dr_jkl what's wrong with debian+xfce ? ;0
04:00 wannabe1987 ow
04:00 tonsofpcs that's a lot more common :)   We have really nice Middle Atlantic racks at work that are 32" (800mm) deep and bond together, have end-caps, doors on the rear, doors available for the frnt, etc.  (but they're nowhere near the price range you want)
04:01 yNos xfce is nice
04:01 dr_jkl i just use xubuntu because that's essentially what it uses
04:01 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Xfce is fundamentally broken, so let's not go there..
04:01 dr_jkl how do you figure
04:01 yNos because it isnt fluxbox?
04:01 yNos :P
04:01 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Put firefox on one workspace. Open a terminal on the other. Click a link.
04:01 tonsofpcs lol
04:02 * dr_jkl elbows yNos in the ribs 'sh'up  you...
04:02 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: You get three options: A: nothing happens. B: Firefox gets pulled onto your workspace. C: You get pulled to its workspace.
04:02 dr_jkl LOL
04:02 Monkeh|Lap None of these options are valid for my workflow.
04:02 dr_jkl wait people use workspaces?
04:02 Cprossu I think I am going to replace my headphone wire with stranded cat5e
04:02 Monkeh|Lap .. yes.
04:02 dr_jkl i'm spoiled. my work desktop is 80" wide
04:02 yNos 80inches?
04:02 yNos mine is 80 chhars :(
04:02 yNos i guess i fail
04:02 dr_jkl welll
04:03 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: This is basically what I want: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Schroff-equipment-Rack-47U-Rack-800mm-19-inch-bay-frame-/370565832168?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Rack_Cases_MJ&amp;hash=item564771dde8
04:03 BotSteve Title: Schroff equipment Rack 47U Rack 800mm 19 inch bay frame | eBay
04:03 dr_jkl 60 inches, when i got promoted i lost a monitor
04:03 Cprossu tonsofpcs see anything wrong with replacing headphone wire with cat5e? xD
04:03 dr_jkl i usually run several 140char terminls at a time
04:03 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Note the price. Well over $500 before shipping. Second hand.
04:03 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: yup, that's basically what these MA racks are, just they have the fancy door supports and bolt-together stuff added on
04:04 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: That's about £80 worth of steel angle welded together.
04:04 tonsofpcs You could build a wooden frame and just get the angle irons.
04:04 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Wood is too bulky
04:05 wannabe1987 97%!!!!
04:05 tonsofpcs my custom rack is 1/8" or 1/4" wood shell with aluminum caps on it (so the cover can fit snug)
04:05 yNos dr_jkl: i abuse tmux.. i usually have a few(3-9, depending on the day) sessions open, each with at least 4 shells open... depending on the day.
04:06 dr_jkl oh
04:06 tonsofpcs (3 - 6.5 mm)
04:06 * yNos hates mondays and weds - the meeting days.
04:06 dr_jkl yeah, all my physical windows are tmuxing
04:06 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I can deal with inches that small. :P
04:06 wannabe1987 do you has mtg tmrw?
04:06 tonsofpcs yNos: http://xkcd.com/930/
04:06 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Days of the Week
04:06 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I'm just far too lazy to do it mentally when you start dealing with tens.
04:07 Toastdude lol wannabe1987
04:07 wannabe1987 CaptainNiobe: i have tea here now....
04:07 CaptainNiobe tea?
04:07 wannabe1987 yes.  for throat
04:07 Toastdude Niobe!
04:07 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: No way in hell would anything that thing handle what I'd be placing in it.
04:07 yNos wannabe1987: i have to call in for a couple morning meetings, i dont have to be there
04:07 wannabe1987 ahhhh thats good.  i have christmas tomorrow
04:07 wannabe1987 does anyone know if the banks are open?
04:07 yNos not mine.
04:08 wannabe1987 hm ok
04:08 wannabe1987 i have a paycheck to deposit
04:08 wannabe1987 :D
04:08 masterofmonks Wee a paycheck.
04:08 wannabe1987 a small one.  but its still moneys!
04:08 yNos a wee paycheck then.
04:08 wannabe1987 yes
04:08 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: you'd be surprised.  Remember that normal steel-only racks only have a few struts connecting front-to-back, wood is continuous.  Also, the more gear you actually bolt to all 4 posts helps to keep the rack together.  Once you have enough gear in a rack, you really don't need the front-to-back supports anyway.
04:09 * wannabe1987 go puts alcohol in her diet coke
04:09 Cprossu DAMN YOU plantronics (they plastic welded the volume/mute board to the casing
04:09 tonsofpcs Cprossu: lol
04:10 tonsofpcs Cprossu: stranded or solid core cat5e?
04:10 Cprossu stranded
04:10 wannabe1987 i need more rhum
04:10 Cprossu is what I want to replace it with
04:10 wannabe1987 why si the rhum always gone?!
04:11 tonsofpcs eh, it's 100-110 ohm nominal, probably a lot closer than the original headphone wire, just keep the twists and use pairs 2 and 3.
04:11 tonsofpcs (or is it 2 and 4 that have the most similar twists? I always forget.... one of them has a much larger twist separation than the others, just don't use that one)
04:11 Cprossu specifically quabbin datamax 5402
04:12 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: 1 and 3.
04:12 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Green and blue.
04:12 dr_jkl Cprossu: uh, circuit boards aren't plastic, you should be able to defat the glue
04:13 Cprossu dr_jkl: they melted the plactic casing
04:13 * tonsofpcs recommends belden 8451? (I think that's what it is)
04:13 Cprossu into the holes of the pcb
04:13 tonsofpcs Cprossu: your soldering iron doesn't have a plastic melting adapter?
04:13 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Quality.
04:13 dr_jkl wait
04:13 tonsofpcs (read: a different tip that you only use on plastic)
04:13 Monkeh|Lap Somebody buy this man a decent headset
04:13 dr_jkl are they unused holes?
04:14 Cprossu Electricals (NOM)
04:14 Cprossu Cond. DC Resistance: 26.0 Ohms/K ft (85.3 Ohms/km) Max.
04:14 Cprossu Cond. to Cond. Capacit.: 13.5 pF/ft (44.3 pF/meter)
04:14 Cprossu Cond. to Shield Capacit: N/A
04:14 Cprossu Impedance: 100 Ohms
04:14 Monkeh|Lap Oh, crap, it's 4am and I'm being dragged around tomorrow..
04:14 tonsofpcs have fun with that :)  good luck with all the returns
04:15 Cprossu tonsofpcs: I really don't want to cover my weller WD1 with plastic crap
04:15 Cprossu http://sigma.octopart.com/9848621/image/APEX-WD1001.jpg
04:15 Cprossu ^ not something I'd do to that.
04:16 wannabe1987 toasty left me
04:16 wannabe1987 now what
04:16 tonsofpcs did you miss where I said "a different tip that you only use on plastic" ?
04:16 Cprossu yeah i don't have one
04:16 Cprossu where do you get them?
04:16 tonsofpcs also, the Weller downstairs came with plastic cutting and smoothing tips!
04:16 Cprossu mine came with just what you see in that picture
04:16 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Get a cheap gas iron.
04:16 tonsofpcs (mind you, it's a 250 W gun ;)
04:16 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Useful for a multitude of things.
04:17 Cprossu mines 'only' 85 watts but it is very nice.
04:17 tonsofpcs Cprossu: get a cheap ratshack 15W-30W iron (With the mini tool kit) for $7.
04:17 Cprossu and esd safe too
04:18 tonsofpcs great for your travel bag and for random projects that you don't want to use the nice iron on.
04:19 wannabe1987 why doth my body rebel?  (and i'm not talking about being sick now)
04:19 CaptainNiobe what's happening, wannabe?
04:20 wannabe1987 tendonitis flare up
04:20 tonsofpcs because canon made it?  oh, rebel not rebel....
04:21 wannabe1987 astro, did you drink my rum?!
04:21 tonsofpcs oo, ratshack is selling a grounded-tip cheap iron for $8 now!
04:24 wannabe1987 and dance heels reallly realy hurt to step on OUW
04:24 wannabe1987 OW*
04:27 wannabe1987 99%
04:28 wannabe1987 almost done....w00t
04:28 Sgt_Lemming tgg needs to buy this http://engineeringshock.com/50x-bulk-lot-25v-2600-farad-super-capacitors-lightly-used-p-100.html
04:28 BotSteve Title: 50x BULK LOT 2.5v 2600 farad super capacitors lightly used [2011-123] - $1,025.00 : Engineeringshock.com, Best DIY Kits
04:28 wannabe1987 hi lem
04:28 Sgt_Lemming lo
04:28 wannabe1987 hows stralia?
04:28 Sgt_Lemming good
04:28 Sgt_Lemming nice day here today
04:29 wannabe1987 good.  its dark out over here .... are you hogging the sunshine?
04:29 Sgt_Lemming yarp
04:37 yNos gah
04:37 yNos over-brewed tea
04:38 yNos did everyone go to bed already?
04:38 egrsteve|away not yet
04:39 yNos so did you get to the lab today?
04:40 egrsteve|away np
04:40 egrsteve|away no, I hope to tomarroe
04:40 yNos same here
04:40 egrsteve|away I need to get cameras ready for the 28th
04:41 tonsofpcs steve!
04:41 egrsteve|away make sure MDH is sutably wired
04:41 egrsteve|away TONS
04:41 tonsofpcs #(%#%*# component in stuffs
04:41 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | The name's Bond...Ionic Bond.  Taken, not shared. | Word of the day: jess
04:41 egrsteve|away i know
04:41 tonsofpcs anyone can make a fast acting analog-to-digital converter followed by a serializer (which is all a component > SDI converter is, really)
04:42 egrsteve|away i know, in theary it's a simple device
04:42 egrsteve|away http://www.rcrowley.com/sonypinout.htm
04:42 BotSteve Title: Sony 14-Pin Connector Pinout
04:42 tonsofpcs anyway, you know chris's "franken cam" ? (the panny back on the sony front)
04:43 tonsofpcs yes, you could take it from there if the camera has it.
04:43 tonsofpcs but more importantly, you might already have some SDI cameras
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04:43 egrsteve|away yes, it powers up and works
04:43 lwq-ipod hi
04:43 tonsofpcs right, because the backs and fronts tie together through a standard interface - both physical and electrical
04:44 egrsteve|away the 50 pin docking connector has more interest to me
04:44 egrsteve|away I just need a pinout
04:44 lwq-ipod wannabe1987!!!!!!
04:44 tonsofpcs if you unbolt the two, you will see what looks like an IDE HDD connector or a Dsub micromini connector.  One of them is analog, one is digital.
04:44 egrsteve|away I guess it's about 50 pins
04:44 tonsofpcs yup (I forget the exact number)
04:44 egrsteve|away ide like is analog i think
04:45 tonsofpcs The analog ones are on one side, the digitals are on another.  Some cameras have both, with a metal plate you screw on to cover the other and hold a little swing arm in place, you can remove that cover and swing it the other way (coonnectors are on sort ofa  < shaped thing with a fulcrum at the point of the vee)
04:45 wannabe1987 lwq-ipod!!!!!
04:45 tonsofpcs but i'm not sure what voltage the signals are at that point, they might need amplification
04:46 lwq-ipod lol
04:46 tonsofpcs if you've got the 14-pin though, that's an easy place to get it from.
04:46 wannabe1987 hi
04:46 tonsofpcs (especially if you have a CCU and aa real camera cable ;)
04:46 egrsteve|away idk, we have an old betacam with the whole deck gutted that still works
04:46 lwq-ipod hi
04:46 egrsteve|away so I doubt a amp is needed
04:46 tonsofpcs well, the deck isn't the only thing in the back part
04:47 egrsteve|away as the cards in the camera side include amps
04:47 tonsofpcs you'll notice that some cameras, the camera side has its own outputs and power switches, while some don't.
04:47 egrsteve|away on that one it is deck and connectors but nothing active is left in it
04:47 tonsofpcs interesting
04:47 wannabe1987 lwq-ipod: pm
04:47 egrsteve|away other than some filter caps
04:47 tonsofpcs seems like a good box to solder onto to try and find signals :)
04:47 tonsofpcs filter caps for Y/C output, I take it?
04:48 tonsofpcs (or power?)
04:48 egrsteve|away it was in a recent captains blog
04:48 egrsteve|away that or power decoupling
04:48 tonsofpcs yea, I've seen it, didn't take a look deep inside
04:48 AgCNO6 joined #thegeekgroup
04:49 egrsteve|away needless to say it's bacly empty
04:49 tonsofpcs anyway, look through some of the old tektronix scope manuals that are available on tek's site, learn what different signals look like and how to calibrate a scope for them, feed booth scope and camera a genlock reference, and poke around :)
04:49 AgCNO6 WTF, Toastdude is unavailable.....
04:49 yNos he went offline a little while ago..
04:50 * AgCNO6 is Toastdude...
04:50 AgCNO6 I meant the username
04:50 egrsteve|away i have thought about it
04:50 lwq-ipod hi yNos
04:50 yNos hey there
04:50 tonsofpcs server split maybe?
04:50 AgCNO6 It won't let me be Toastdude
04:50 wannabe1987 lol
04:50 tonsofpcs AgCNO6: is nickserv locking it?
04:50 egrsteve|away and I can ID most basic signals as it is
04:50 lwq-ipod toast ghost it
04:50 AgCNO6 Idk..
04:50 AgCNO6 It's not on
04:50 wannabe1987 can't ghost it if its not on...
04:50 egrsteve|away not RF modulated but composite/componet ect
04:51 wannabe1987 .seen toastdude
04:51 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw AgCNO6 0.00 hours ago at 2011-12-26 04:50:47 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:51:02 UTC
04:51 Vladdeh_ joined #thegeekgroup
04:51 AgCNO6 I think it's because I forgot to identify it in time..
04:51 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Toastdude 0.73 hours ago at 2011-12-26 04:07:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
04:51 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw ZombieToast 76.51 hours ago at 2011-12-23 00:20:19 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
04:51 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Bot-Toast 125.70 hours ago at 2011-12-20 23:08:53 UTC on #tgg-bots.
04:51 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: throw the camera into bars mode and you can use that to help you see R/G/B or Y/Pr/Pb differences
04:51 AgCNO6 Meh
04:51 lwq-ipod ah
04:51 wannabe1987 poor toasty
04:51 egrsteve|away what I need to do is take an old non-working one and tar into it to look at the connections
04:51 HeartbreakOne Sucks...
04:51 egrsteve|away see what I can figure out
04:51 HeartbreakOne Still unavailable.
04:52 lwq-ipod .
04:52 tonsofpcs well, you should have a good male connector on the open-beta frame
04:52 HeartbreakOne ....
04:52 wannabe1987 "toastdude Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable"
04:52 wannabe1987 odd
04:52 * HeartbreakOne is dumb
04:52 HeartbreakOne Lee!
04:52 tonsofpcs and, being that it was a beta deck, it should have had wires attached to the component signals.
04:52 wannabe1987 why are you dumb hun?
04:52 * lwq-ipod is happy and content
04:52 egrsteve|away and power so I should be able to get some signals sorted out
04:52 HeartbreakOne wannabe: I think it's because I failed to identify in time.
04:52 wannabe1987 ahhhh yes
04:52 wannabe1987 it would be
04:53 HeartbreakOne Cause I didn't realize lee was here..
04:53 wannabe1987 you can log out and log in and it'll do it....
04:53 wannabe1987 ??
04:53 wannabe1987 toasty:  dr who is done :D
04:53 HeartbreakOne :D
04:54 yNos Has anyone ever played with a ZipIt Z2?
04:54 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: well, with the working back you can just trace power.
04:54 egrsteve|away i know
04:54 * wannabe1987 watches dr who
04:55 Cprossu holy cow there's an egrsteve|away
04:55 Cprossu what's up
04:56 tonsofpcs an egrsteve|away draws near
04:56 Cprossu yNos: I have 2 of them
04:56 Cprossu what do you want to know?
04:56 Cprossu (other than debian runs on them ok)
04:56 Cprossu (and that your macid isn't hardcoded at all and you have to load it every time)
04:57 yNos are they worth playing with.. i was thinking remote irc terminal/pocket serial terminal.
04:57 Cprossu the keyboard sucks
04:57 yNos shocker.
04:57 Cprossu and the screen does too, so does it's batt life for that matter
04:58 Cprossu it's a good little wifi penetration tester though
04:58 Cprossu but remote irc terminal, meh
04:58 yNos wonder if there are any other toys like it.. last hardware i hacked on was an audry..
04:58 Cprossu hunterdavis used to have an awesome z2 site
04:59 Cprossu -----I wonder what he's been hacking lately
04:59 * tonsofpcs uses an eeepc900a
05:01 Cprossu yNos As soon as I get the kindle somewhat reliable I'll let you know rofl
05:02 yNos sounds good.
05:02 yNos i have 2 prereqs for my next toy.. ssh and wireless of some sort.
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05:03 lwq-ipod damn ipod
05:06 yNos oh, and i should add cheap to that list ;)
05:06 Cprossu 2/3 I suppose
05:06 yNos yup
05:06 Cprossu the kindle touch might qualify though
05:06 yNos yeah?
05:06 Cprossu there outa be some interesting hacking projects coming out of it
05:06 yNos the kindle fire?
05:07 Cprossu $200 =/ cheap??
05:07 yNos once it is rooted, i am there..
05:07 yNos $200 !=cheap
05:07 lwq-ipod im bored
05:07 Cprossu I was thinking <$100 was cheap
05:07 sndwrx The Kindle Touch is rooted.
05:07 wannabe1987 um come clean my room with me?
05:07 yNos thats what i am going for.
05:07 Cprossu the kindle fire is $200 lol
05:07 sndwrx You use an exploit that runs code from MP3 ID3 tags.
05:08 sndwrx But if you're looking to spend $200, the Nook Color is a lot better than the Fire.
05:08 yNos funny
05:08 yNos we have a fire.. well.. she does. i cant play with it..
05:08 astro73|alice ssh, wireless, <$100?
05:09 yNos astro73|alice: the zipit fits that..
05:09 lwq-ipod wannabe1987, i already cleaned one room
05:09 sndwrx That's exactly what I was going to say.
05:09 wannabe1987 well, keep me company?
05:09 sndwrx $30 for wireless, terminal and audio.  :P
05:09 lwq-ipod ok
05:09 sndwrx plus hardware keyboard.
05:09 wannabe1987 ok
05:09 sndwrx ;snickers.
05:09 lwq-ipod im tired
05:10 astro73|alice yNos: that's the form-factor that i would expect for that price
05:10 * lwq-ipod takes a nap on wannabe1987  bed
05:10 wannabe1987 good luck, its full of stuff
05:10 wannabe1987 but it *is* warm....
05:10 wannabe1987 my blanket is on
05:10 Cprossu lol yNos
05:11 lwq-ipod idk i just need to lay down
05:11 Cprossu I set up and played with a fire on launch day (one of my customers pre-ordered one)
05:11 wannabe1987 go ahead hun
05:11 Cprossu I can't say I was impressed with it at all
05:12 Cprossu sndwrx: does it count as a hardware keyboard if you have to jam a key 3x for it to register?
05:12 sndwrx I mean, it's okay.
05:12 Cprossu that was my main issue with the z2
05:12 sndwrx As far as people without interest in rooting a device are concerned, I'd probably lean them more in the direction of the Fire.
05:12 sndwrx At least it supports more apps and, more importantly, the free apps.
05:12 sndwrx The Nook does not.
05:12 Cprossu no the nook is way locked down
05:13 yNos Cprossu: with the usb mod, adding a mini-keyboard wouldnt be hard.
05:13 sndwrx But once it's rooted, or loaded with Cyanogenmod, it's really nice.
05:13 Cprossu and the original nook was a rather...uh.... mess
05:13 sndwrx Not "way" locked down.  It's a cinch to root.
05:13 sndwrx Drop some files on an SD card and turn on on.
05:13 sndwrx poof
05:13 sndwrx As default, though, it's tighter than a nun's chastity belt.
05:13 Cprossu yeah that's what I meant
05:13 * sndwrx nods.
05:14 sndwrx And for $250 the Nook Tablet is pretty bad ass once it's rooted.
05:14 sndwrx dual-core proc, 16GB RAM.
05:14 sndwrx Pretty comparable to the G-tab, sans camera.
05:14 Cprossu I darn near bought one of the new nooks at our local store but a creepy b&n individual wanted to know what interest I had in looking at specs in the device
05:14 sndwrx I really hate that the Fire has no hard keys except the power button.
05:15 Cprossu was looking over my shoulder o_o
05:15 sndwrx heh
05:15 sndwrx Most of them really aren't educated on the devices, in my experienc.
05:15 Cprossu not a clue
05:16 Cprossu he then looked in my pocket "Oh I see you have a kindle, well let me tell you why the nook is better"
05:16 astro73|alice aww man. zipits can be had cheap
05:16 yNos sndwrx: not to sound out of it(because i kinda am) what gtab?
05:16 yNos which gtab i mean
05:16 Cprossu and there's a reason too astro73|alice
05:16 astro73|alice like, ebay that shit and mount them throughout the lab for data access
05:16 sndwrx my biggest qualm with it is that the fact that only 1GB of storage is accesible by other content, aside from B&N purchased content.
05:16 sndwrx so 1GB out of 8GB or 16GB, unless you add an SD card.
05:16 Cprossu don't forget to get plenty of mirco to mini-sd adapters
05:17 sndwrx yNos: Viewsonic G-tab
05:17 sndwrx yNos: 10.1", webcam, dual-core.
05:17 sndwrx yNos: Price was dropped to $250 some months ago, but I haven't found it less than $280.
05:17 yNos hmm..
05:18 Cprossu (and it's way too late to get a HP webos tablet rofl)
05:18 yNos yarp
05:18 yNos i missed out on that.. i heard one of the co-workers talking about it..
05:19 * HeartbreakOne should get off
05:19 yNos ummm...
05:19 yNos doesnt know how to reply
05:19 wannabe1987 lol
05:19 sndwrx yeah, the HP touchpad was a good buy.
05:20 sndwrx Supposedly some shipped with Android right out of the box.  I don't the validty of that, though.
05:20 Cprossu by the time I said "Hey that looks kinda cool!" they were all gone
05:20 yNos yarp. i went there after work and they were gone.
05:22 yNos hmm.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ViewSonic-G-Tablet-16GB-Wi-Fi-10-1in-Black-Vegan-Tab-Rom-gTablet-Case-/280794149880?pt=US_Tablets&amp;hash=item4160a2b3f8
05:22 BotSteve Title: ViewSonic G Tablet 16GB, Wi-Fi, 10.1in - Black Vegan Tab Rom gTablet with Case (737839166620) | eBay
05:23 yNos dont have the cash for it now, but will have to remember that.
05:24 sndwrx I hear a lot of people like the Vegan ROMs on the G-tab, but I'm pretty partial to Cyanogenmod.
05:25 yNos havent really played with anything android yet.
05:25 yNos i do admit, i like to do hardware modes too things.
05:25 yNos **to
05:25 sndwrx In that case, it's possible to put a GPS in the G-tab.
05:25 Cprossu my only gripe with android rhymes with 'java'
05:27 yNos google doesnt rhyme with java?
05:28 yNos ohman.. i forgot to check on this :( http://www.ebay.com/itm/170746142296?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
05:28 BotSteve Title: eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices
05:29 Cprossu nooooooo lol
05:29 yNos that would have been a helluva win.
05:32 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mediatrix-4108-8-Port-VoIP-Gateway-SIP-/300554066175?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item45fa6b18ff
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05:32 BotSteve Title: Mediatrix 4108 8-Port VoIP Gateway SIP | eBay
05:33 Cprossu not what we're looking for though =(
05:33 lwq-ipod t. s
05:33 lwq-ipod .seen tehdark45
05:33 BotSteve lwq-ipod: I last saw tehdark45 94.15 hours ago at 2011-12-22 07:24:45 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:33:28 UTC
05:33 lwq-ipod damn
05:35 yNos Cprossu: i was looking at that when we were talking about the bbs.. my former emplyer said he has some atlas 500s loaded with fxs/fxo cards.. we'd just need something to terminate a PRI into to use them.
05:35 yNos http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cisco-AS5300-VoIP-Gateway-Access-Server-Quad-T1-PRI-MIC-/290648893279?pt=COMP_EN_Routers&amp;hash=item43ac06275f
05:35 BotSteve Title: Cisco AS5300 VoIP Gateway Access Server+Quad T1/PRI+MIC | eBay
05:35 yNos that'd do.
05:38 sndwrx how does the AS5300 differ from the AS5200?
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05:38 yNos not sure.. we had both of them as dial-up racks at the ISP i worked at back in the day
05:40 yNos why, you have one laying around?
05:40 sndwrx I don't remember positively, but I think it's only $25 for an AS5200
05:40 sndwrx If it's of use
05:40 yNos the DSP cards are the expensive part.
05:41 sndwrx It had a card or two in it (I don't really know anything about them), but I'm not sure what kind of card.
05:41 yNos would need at least a sinngle PRI card and a MICA card.
05:43 yNos http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Cisco+AS5xxx
05:43 BotSteve Title: Cisco AS5xxx - voip-info.org
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05:54 yNos Was just cruising facebook and clicked on a youtupe link.
05:54 * wannabe1987 has tea
05:55 yNos i thought it was going to be a cover of a pink floyd song
05:55 yNos all i can say is
05:55 * CaptainNiobe just finished a coffee
05:55 yNos *FUCK YOU AVERIL LAVIGNE*
05:55 lwq-ipod lol
05:57 yNos for those that dont know, "Wish You Were Here" was a pink floyd song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXdNnw99-Ic
05:57 BotSteve Title: Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - YouTube
05:58 lwq-ipod ik my rock lol
05:59 yNos fires up Astronomy Domine to clean his soul.
05:59 yNos that needed a /me
06:00 lwq-ipod lol
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06:03 Sgt_Lemming yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A95NaTkQfas
06:03 BotSteve Title: 1200 Micrograms - LSD - YouTube
06:03 lwq-ipod oh no lsd
06:03 wannabe1987 .c 15.85+26.99
06:03 BotSteve 42.84
06:03 wannabe1987 win
06:05 yNos Sgt_Lemming: i like the artwork
06:09 lwq-ipod im going to bed all
06:09 lwq-ipod later
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06:27 wannabe1987 S01E04
06:30 yNos eh?
06:30 wannabe1987 watching dr who
06:31 yNos oh
06:38 yNos Careful with That Axe, Eugene.
06:44 wannabe1987 what kind of a cookie person am i if i don't have any cookies?
06:47 yNos the kind that is getting skinnier?
06:47 wannabe1987 lol
06:48 wannabe1987 no....its christmas...i'm still eating lots
06:48 wannabe1987 ish
06:48 wannabe1987 as much as my throat can swallow :/
06:49 wannabe1987 sorry Ponko
06:49 Ponko for what?
06:50 wannabe1987 it not being the origianl dr who
06:53 Ponko well blah
06:53 Ponko idc
06:53 Ponko lol
06:55 wannabe1987 lol ok
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07:05 wannabe1987 good.  this ep is almost over and then i can sleep! :D
07:06 wannabe1987 he...unzipped his forehead
07:10 Cprossu I found a logitech headset with a dirty pot. at least I've got stereo and something that isn't broken in 3 places
07:11 wannabe1987 pot?
07:13 wannabe-zz night all
07:18 yNos gnite
07:18 * yNos waves
07:32 NeWtoz oh man, so need a quote db
07:33 * NeWtoz eyes BatSteve-Away
07:41 NeWtoz BatSteve-Away, we wouldn't need a website for it, it can be built into the bot
07:42 NeWtoz maybe if I get bored later in the week
07:50 Ponko lol
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08:06 CaptainNiobe Cprossu, you around?
08:08 CaptainNiobe and this is in start > run > cmd?
08:08 CaptainNiobe ooops
08:13 Ponko when i was young it seemed that life was so wonderful
08:15 Coderjoe BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 a pot (potentiometer) is a variable resistor. the resistance can be linear ot non-linear across the travel.
08:15 BotSteve Coderjoe: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
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08:26 CaptainNiobe hey ToriJ... masterofmonks should be able to help
08:26 ToriJ kk
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09:32 Ponko1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5XhqQFs2P0&amp;feature=related EPIC WIN
09:32 BotSteve Title: NFL Primetime Songs (2 of 5) THE CLOCK IS TICKING - YouTube
09:55 Ponko night all
09:55 Ponko well morning technically
09:55 Ponko for me anyway
10:00 Electricguy lol! http://www.n0.se/f/n/e56f1_1324836689.jpg
10:22 NeWtoz I'm partially jealous, my parent's internet is 3x faster then mine :(
10:22 CaptainNiobe pay more money then? :P
10:22 NeWtoz partially
10:23 NeWtoz not enough to pay more
10:23 CaptainNiobe well, pay more than they do lol
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11:38 eg_lappy building some www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
12:07 roadran422 Hi
12:07 CaptainNiobe g'day, roadran422 :)
12:08 roadran422 What time is over there? Seems pretty late in the day?
12:08 CaptainNiobe 2208
12:08 roadran422 10:08 at night? xD
12:08 CaptainNiobe yup
12:08 roadran422 Oh hahaha
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12:29 roadran422 Hi electronics
12:29 Electronics heya
12:29 roadran422 ...
12:29 * roadran422 yawns
12:41 exor674 also whee, I guess forcing my network card NOT to autonegotiate actually fixed things
12:42 exor674 22.1k packets sent, 3 dropped ( I was seeing insane packet loss over the link before )
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12:55 Monkeh exor674: Autoneg does not always work well, apparently.
12:56 Monkeh exor674: I wouldn't expect any packet loss over an ethernet connection, though..
12:57 exor674 Monkeh: still, that's what 0.0001% packet loss
12:57 exor674 pretty decent
13:01 Monkeh exor674: 25000 packets transmitted, 25000 received, 0% packet loss, time 250000ms
13:01 Monkeh rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 0.101/0.138/0.355/0.012 ms, ipg/ewma 10.000/0.134 ms
13:01 Monkeh ;)
13:02 exor674 yeah, I'd prefer that at 0 dropped, but since it *was* at 80% before I started fucking with things
13:02 exor674 this is definately an improvement!
13:02 Monkeh heh
13:02 Monkeh Dodgy NIC. Get rid of. :P
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13:03 exor674 Monkeh: as soon as I can get a replacement I WILL
13:04 exor674 and as an aside, I was looking at card prices. can you say skeezy marketting
13:04 exor674 "Auto negotiation for 10Base-T/100Base-TX provides speeds up to 200 Mbps in full-duplex mode"
13:04 exor674 uh..
13:05 exor674 okay, so the speed over the *LINK* is 200Mbps buuuut....
13:06 Monkeh exor674: Heh, marketing blurb.
13:06 Monkeh I'd like to see the average NIC do 100Mbps full-duplex in reality.
13:08 exor674 mm theory!
13:09 Monkeh exor674: Know what's even more hilarious?
13:09 exor674 what?
13:10 Monkeh exor674: Claims that gigabit NICs will actually do 1000Mbps on a shared PCI bus.
13:11 exor674 *snrk* what's the bus rate?
13:11 exor674 significantly lower?
13:12 Monkeh exor674: 133MB/s.
13:12 exor674 *snrk* oops
13:12 Monkeh exor674: 1000MBps being 125MB/s. Now add controlling the device and other devices on the bus..
13:12 Monkeh exor674: Not to mention RX.
13:12 Monkeh Or TX
13:12 Monkeh Whichever way around you're doing it
13:13 Monkeh Kind of odd that 66MHz PCI busses never took off.
13:13 exor674 PCIe came too soon so people stopped botering?
13:13 exor674 "who has old hardware"
13:14 Monkeh exor674: 66MHz has been around since 1995.
13:14 exor674 ah heh
13:14 Monkeh PCI 2.1 is old hat
13:14 Monkeh Just nobody ever implemented that outside of server chipsets.
13:14 Monkeh Although a few newer chipsets are actually capable of it.. they just never ever enable it.
13:17 exor674 who knows then!
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14:09 Guest14504 BotSteve: tell batsteve that i have a list of commands if he were to want to make either a website or a way to have botsteve tell them if needed
14:09 BotSteve Guest14504: I'll pass that on when batsteve is around.
14:10 kellyEv well, thats fucking annoying
14:10 kellyEv BotSteve: tel batsteve that that was from wannabe
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14:12 kellyEv rawrarearje;klrjael;krjae;wlk
14:13 wannabe1987 there.  all better
14:13 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
14:13 BotSteve At 08:15Z, Coderjoe asked me to tell wannabe1987 a pot (potentiometer) is a variable resistor. the resistance can be linear ot non-linear across the travel.
14:13 wannabe1987 thanks Coderjoe
14:16 tonsofpcs commands?  you mean you have a list of cookies, right? :)
14:16 wannabe1987 yes
14:16 wannabe1987 cookies
14:16 wannabe1987 .cookie tonsofpcs
14:16 BotSteve Here you go, tonsofpcs, I baked you a molasses cookie!
14:16 wannabe1987 SEE?!
14:17 wannabe1987 no, i actually logged into the github and saw his commands, tried them, wrote them down AND what they do
14:18 wannabe1987 steve, astro, and the others are too busy to do that
14:22 wannabe1987 if i could go without swallowing, i'd feel fine!
14:24 tonsofpcs :)
14:25 tonsofpcs erm
14:25 wannabe1987 what?
14:25 wannabe1987 stupid throat hurts
14:26 Coderjoe :(
14:26 Coderjoe sore throats suck
14:26 wannabe1987 and sleeping is really a pain in the neck cuz when i lay down i hack up three lungs
14:26 wannabe1987 and now i'm hungry...i think its time to run errands and then go to grandmas a few hours early
14:26 Coderjoe three? where did you get the third?
14:26 wannabe1987 i don't know
14:27 wannabe1987 but stuff comes up....salvia or something :/
14:27 wannabe1987 thats why theres a bowl next to the bed
14:30 wannabe1987 talk to you all later....i'm off to meijer
14:41 sndwrx Hacking up salvia?
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15:12 roadran422 Hope you feel better!
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15:54 wannabe1987 hi sparky
15:56 SparkyProjects Hi :)
15:57 wannabe1987 how were your holidays?
15:57 SparkyProjects Quiet and mainly boring, how about you ?
15:59 wannabe1987 sleepy and sickly :/
15:59 wannabe1987 but my cousins flew in safely :D  so its all good
16:00 SparkyProjects Cool :)
16:00 wannabe1987 yep.
16:01 wannabe1987 grandma just called vivaldi  - vidalia
16:01 SparkyProjects My Grandson is coming tomorrow for a couple of days
16:01 wannabe1987 sweet
16:10 wannabe1987 finn#1 is complaining about having to go to work :/
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16:14 speedrunnerG55 hai
16:16 wannabe1987 you listened!
16:16 wannabe1987 :D
16:16 wannabe1987 .shake speedrunnerG55
16:16 BotSteve Here you go, speedrunnerG55, I made you a walnut shake!
16:16 speedrunnerG55 o_o
16:16 speedrunnerG55 im drawing ponies
16:16 wannabe1987 here
16:16 wannabe1987 why?!
16:16 wannabe1987 .cake speedrunnerG55
16:16 BotSteve Here you go, speedrunnerG55, I baked you a chocolate cake!
16:16 speedrunnerG55 because its fun
16:16 wannabe1987 why would you do such a childish thing?!
16:17 speedrunnerG55 because its fun
16:17 wannabe1987 odd
16:17 wannabe1987 person
16:17 Electricguy nice track! :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9aG5jUChj4
16:17 BotSteve Title: PH Electro - San Francisco (Ti-Mo RMX) - YouTube
16:19 speedrunnerG55 im working on making a ponified vertion of nikola tesla
16:19 speedrunnerG55 based on http://badasshistory.com/tesla2.gif
16:20 wannabe1987 why are you ponyfying him?!
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16:28 wannabe1987 a group of moms asked me once why a bunch of people in their 20s would like mlp, and i didn't have an answer for them :/
16:29 wannabe1987 .define brony
16:30 BotSteve Couldn't get any definitions for brony.
16:31 wannabe1987 .define gravlax
16:31 BotSteve gravlax — noun: 1. Salmon dry-cured in salt, seasoned with dill and sugar, and served usually thinly sliced as an appetizer
16:31 speedrunnerg55_ wannabe, do you like fallout?
16:31 wannabe1987 no, never played
16:32 speedrunnerg55_ oh, i havnt iether. but you should read fallout equestria,  its a bit grim dark. but good
16:32 wannabe1987 y should i read it?
16:36 wannabe1987 doesn't sound like what i read, but i'll check it out
16:37 wannabe1987 you have a tail
16:37 * wannabe1987 gets the chopping block ready
16:41 wannabe1987 one of the games grandma has for us is putting on a large ski mitten (with just the thumb and the hand, no fingers) and attempting to open a large wrapped gift. to make it more "difficult" we have a time limit - until either someone rolls doubles (using 2 die) or 30 seconds is up, then someone else has a go.
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16:49 Seroster Fuckfuckfuckfuckfuck.
16:51 Seroster This, more or less, happened tp me http://cheneyhs.org/clubs/sportsmed/pics/injuries/images/knee%20hematoma_jpg.jpg
16:52 mantere *Omnomnom* this smoked venison is so delicious.
16:52 SparkyProjects Did you fall down the stairs drunk ?
16:52 Seroster Actually
16:53 Seroster I whined about what caused this during the night of the 24th
16:53 Seroster Found a wonderful piece of crystaline dihydrogen monoxide =P
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17:05 Seroster So
17:05 Seroster In essence it feels like I have a three inch nail whacked into my kneecap
17:16 SparkyProjects So you slipped on some ice ?
17:16 SparkyProjects Well now you have an injury to talk about :P
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17:23 Seroster Yeah
17:23 Seroster Its the most annoying thing ever, and it only hurts when my knee is bent, straight, support my weight or has blood in it.
17:26 Experimentonomen my right knee is also a bit funky, after having it bent the wrong direction from tripping around on ice, if i sit for hours on end, i limp quite badly, few weeks ago it also hurt alot
17:29 Cprossu top of the morining to everyone (Except those who it isn't morning for, then top of the whatever-it-is for them)
17:30 Experimentonomen whats morining ?
17:30 SparkyProjects Good evening (17:30 here)
17:30 Coderjoe 1230 at tgg lsl
17:38 Seroster Oh piss off with that Experimentonomen =P
17:38 Seroster and good morning Cprossu
17:43 Coderjoe wannabe-afk: perhaps they were fans back when the original show was on? and perhaps the show might be fun without talking down to viewers?
17:46 Cprossu looks like batman's making a trash run on the stream (saw a gaylord full of trash get loaded into dante)
17:48 Coderjoe i have to wonder why the truck wasn't moved into the garage like before...
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17:48 Cprossu I never ask why anymore Coderjoe
17:48 SparkyProjects Saw that too, or maybe just fillig it up ready which helps with clearing space in MDH
17:48 Coderjoe why ask why? try bud dry.
17:54 Cprossu looks like joe's here
17:55 Cprossu errr' there
17:55 SparkyProjects Was just wondering who that was :)
17:57 Cprossu rofl
17:57 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rulElJITIVY
17:57 Cprossu ^ hahahaha
17:57 BotSteve Title: TRAINZ SIMULATOR 12 [[MLG]] PRO NOSTEAM RAILSHOTZ (HD) (KING'S XROSS) - YouTube
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18:07 Superphosphate hello :)
18:15 Coderjoe O_O
18:15 Coderjoe a car-deer accident on grandville ave?
18:16 Superphosphate oh
18:16 Superphosphate not good
18:16 Superphosphate is the deer ok?
18:16 Coderjoe grandville ave is all in urban area
18:17 Superphosphate then not a good place for the deer
18:17 Superphosphate what about the people?
18:17 Coderjoe dunno
18:17 Coderjoe i just heard the call on the scanner on the stream a minute ago
18:24 Coderjoe Joe's getting something out of the van
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18:44 sndwrx There's lots of urban deer smashings in Grand Rapids area.
18:45 sndwrx A couple weeks ago a deer RAN INTO ME right in the city of Greenville.
18:45 sndwrx Four deer ran across the road in front of me, I came to a stop, BLAM a fifth deer smashed right into my driver-side fender.
18:47 Coderjoe greenville isn't that urban, imo
18:47 Coderjoe still sucks about your car, though
18:47 sndwrx No, it's a crummy little town.
18:47 sndwrx But when you're within city limits, it's all houses and concrete.
18:47 sndwrx With the exception of Tower Park.
18:47 sndwrx So that's urban enough that deer shouldn't be running around.
18:48 sndwrx That deer was dumb anyway.  He had no idea where to go, as he was hauling ass across the road he zigged and zagged like he didn't know if he should go around or through the car.
18:49 Coderjoe is it just me, or are the lyrics to "Baby, It's Cold Outside" kinda creepy?
18:49 sndwrx He opted to attempt going through the car, and failed.
18:49 sndwrx considering the car was at a stop, the decision should have been simple.  :P
18:49 Coderjoe "I think I can make it. No, perhaps not. er, yeah, I can..."
18:50 sndwrx yep.
18:51 sndwrx Smashed the car, fell down, got up and just barely scrubbed the front bumper as he ran off.
18:59 Cprossu sndwrx ouch
18:59 Cprossu so you and yNos now
19:00 Cprossu yNos got a forester though now at least
19:03 Cprossu anyone here there at the lab? ajprog_laptop perhaps?
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19:16 mashpriborintorg hi
19:16 Experimentonomen g'day mash
19:21 mashpriborintorg boring day of work :p
19:24 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/2mk8s.jpg
19:24 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/74ftn.jpg
19:24 Experimentonomen are those kinda switches still made and sold ?
19:26 Coderjoe most likely
19:26 Coderjoe digikey or mouser should have something suitable
19:26 mashpriborintorg ALPS brand ? probably but finding a supplyer is the thing
19:27 ajprog_laptop Cprossu: yes
19:27 mashpriborintorg ... a supplier who will be ok for selling you less than 15.000 pieces :p
19:28 mashpriborintorg maybe a carefull disassembly and cleaning may ressurect them
19:29 Experimentonomen they let signal through if u wiggle them
19:29 Experimentonomen which is a bit annoying
19:30 mashpriborintorg try a contact cleaning bomb
19:31 mashpriborintorg *spray
19:32 Experimentonomen dont have any, but that stuff usually doesent fix this kinda stuff
19:32 mashpriborintorg hardcore hifi collectors have the tips for saving such parts
19:33 mashpriborintorg check this guy's work: http://cdkands.com/
19:33 BotSteve Title: Audio Restoration
19:34 tonsofpcs hi
19:35 tonsofpcs hmm, apparrently what I sent from the phone didn't come through.  I thik ALPS got bought a few years back
19:36 tonsofpcs oh, they're just microswitches
19:36 tonsofpcs http://www.alps.com/WebObjects/catalog.woa/E/HTML/Switch/Switch_list1.html
19:36 BotSteve Title: Switch - Products Information - Alps Electric
19:37 tonsofpcs SPPH2 appears to be that style
19:37 mashpriborintorg It will not help, but I only trust aerospace quality switches, all the others are crap :p
19:39 tonsofpcs mouser will sell them in Qty of 1 or more (no less, sorry)
19:39 Experimentonomen except these have more than six legs
19:40 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: six legs?
19:41 Experimentonomen the ones in the amp have like 8 legs or so
19:42 Experimentonomen and seems to have four separate switch elements inside
19:42 tonsofpcs well, they might not be that model, that's just the right style
19:42 tonsofpcs (relatively)
19:42 tonsofpcs are they DIP (2 rows of 4?)
19:43 Experimentonomen 4 or 5 legs per side
19:44 Experimentonomen sees to be four single pole single throw elements in it
19:44 tonsofpcs hmm, I see a bunch that are 3 per side, there's some horizontal throw ones (pins come out the side) that have more....
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19:46 Experimentonomen might be custom made for telefunken by alps for this amp model :(
19:47 tonsofpcs it could also be a different style of switch with that plunger stuck on top
19:48 * Experimentonomen listens to basshunter on the amp halfway taken apart
19:49 tonsofpcs so it's 4 pole single throw or is it 2 pole double throw with two extra pins?
19:49 Experimentonomen i tried redoing the solder joints on everything mounted to the front panel to ensure it wasent bad solder joints
19:50 Experimentonomen seem to be four separate single pole single throw elements inside each of the switches
19:51 mashpriborintorg hanving the schematics of the device should help a lot
19:51 Experimentonomen one element turns a led on/off, the rest i think bypasses the loudness/subsonic filter
19:51 Experimentonomen i do have the service manual
19:52 tonsofpcs if you can find out the type of switch(es) it is, might be able to find it or possible replacement
20:00 eg_lappy se me tinkering with CCD cameras and radioactivity www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
20:03 mashpriborintorg ouch... try to find old WW2 aircraft jauges, if you want some good gamma source
20:04 Experimentonomen gaaaahhh stupid fucking piece of shit imgur site *very pissed off*
20:04 masterofmonks Seroster: That knee looks like it hurts like hell.
20:05 tonsofpcs can't you use the radioactivve sample that comes with your geiger counter?
20:07 mashpriborintorg some radium dial gauge are freaking hot, and still sell flawlessly onto the collector market
20:08 tonsofpcs I'm sure we have some crazy stuff hiding in the closet and storage rooms at work
20:09 mashpriborintorg eg_lappy, your workbench is a little messy :p
20:11 Electricguy naah :P
20:11 Electricguy fun fact, you only see about 1/10th of it! ;P
20:11 Electricguy brb!
20:13 mashpriborintorg when i work; I like having all the tools in a row, and a set of boxes, trays, whatever for putting the parts
20:14 Experimentonomen bah this fucking imgur cunt site is fucking raped in its fucking ass *so fucking mad that hes a hairs width from smashing something with a irom pipe*
20:15 mashpriborintorg I use an old wooden awale as a screw sorting tray it's convenient, does not work for big badass bolts tho
20:32 Experimentonomen Oops blew a woofer
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20:56 tonsofpcs belw q [Bblew a woofeR???
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21:22 wannabe-afk hello?
21:23 wannabe1987 BotSteve: "se homo practicar el piano"?
21:23 BotSteve wannabe1987: Unable to guess your crazy moon language, sorry.
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21:27 wannabe1987 hi Gaxnys
21:28 Gaxnys Hey
21:29 wannabe1987 how are your holidays?
21:29 Gaxnys Ugh, this have been a long day. I've spent all day configuring my server to act as a router as well.
21:29 wannabe1987 why?
21:30 Gaxnys It's nice to have control over the network traffic.
21:30 Gaxnys Plus, I've got a much more powerful router now. :D
21:33 wannabe1987 nice
21:44 wannabe1987 how do i enable cookies in firefox 8?
21:50 Cprossu what in the world did I miss? lol
21:54 wannabe1987 Seroster got hurt
21:54 wannabe1987 i'm not sure
21:58 wannabe1987 http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/inc-well/New-Jell-O-Machine-for-Adults-Only-135649738.html  interesting
21:58 BotSteve Title: New Jell-O Machine for Adults Only | NBC Chicago
22:09 wannabe1987 anyone from tgg in gr next week (after the 2nd) that is willing to move heavy stuff for me?????
22:21 sndwrx I'm happy to help if I can get advanced notice.
22:21 sndwrx How heavy are you talking?
22:22 wannabe1987 its a maple desk...its like 100 lbs or something crazy
22:22 wannabe1987 dad just said "very heavy"
22:23 wannabe1987 how are you getting out here?
22:24 sndwrx Good question.
22:25 wannabe1987 you can take the bus to grandville, i live near the mall...
22:25 sndwrx I don't have a truck or anything to move it, either.  I can only offer help in the form of muscle... and not much at that. ;)
22:26 wannabe1987 grandpa has a van inwhich we can remove seats
22:27 sndwrx k
22:27 sndwrx Then it's going downstairs?
22:28 wannabe1987 yeah, but you can carry it around back and through the sliders instead of trying to go around the stairs....
22:28 sndwrx So there's a basement entrance?
22:28 wannabe1987 mhm
22:28 sndwrx awesome
22:28 wannabe1987 mhm  thats what we did for my stuff (bed, boxes, bags, etc)
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22:38 wannabe1987 hi kate
22:38 Katemonster hello.
22:38 wannabe1987 i'll be back guys....gotta go home now...i'm tired
22:40 Hackbat Are me and my mom the only people that enjoy stephen king books?
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22:54 mantere i like stephen king books
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23:01 Electricguy bedtime! night all :)
23:01 Toastdude Night Electricguy  :P
23:02 * Experimentonomen looks for replacement woofers
23:02 Toastdude .seen wannabe1987
23:02 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe1987 0.40 hours ago at 2011-12-26 22:38:35 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 23:02:22 UTC
23:02 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe-afk 1.66 hours ago at 2011-12-26 21:22:55 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
23:02 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe-zz 15.81 hours ago at 2011-12-26 07:13:47 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
23:02 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw zombie1987 95.91 hours ago at 2011-12-22 23:07:41 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
23:02 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe|tgg 172.85 hours ago at 2011-12-19 18:11:27 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
23:02 BotSteve Toastdude: (3 more)
23:02 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
23:02 BotSteve You're welcome, Toastdude
23:03 Toastdude :(
23:05 Monkeh 50000 packets transmitted, 24994 received, 50% packet loss
23:05 Monkeh Now that's what I call packet loss.
23:05 Toastdude Wow..
23:06 Experimentonomen *yawn*
23:07 Monkeh Cprossu: So it wasn't a solder issue. :{
23:10 Monkeh Marvhell suck..
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23:35 roadran422 Hey1! I got a soldering iron!
23:36 roadran422 And of course, any noob with a soldering iron burns him self!
23:36 Experimentonomen noob :P
23:36 roadran422 :P xD
23:36 Toastdude Haha
23:36 Toastdude Now to get a desoldering iron :P
23:36 roadran422 All I need now is a better stand and a copper scrubber thingy to remove the burnt plastic and metal...
23:36 roadran422 Lol
23:37 Toastdude wannabe!
23:37 roadran422 How to cure a burn?
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23:37 NeWtoz time
23:38 bazbot hi
23:38 wannabe1987 there
23:38 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
23:38 roadran422 It hurts! xD
23:38 roadran422 The burn!
23:38 wannabe1987 i bought myself a cutting board, knives, spatulas and the like and a pan :D  i can now make food!
23:38 roadran422 Hahahaha
23:38 roadran422 Nice, can you cook?
23:38 wannabe1987 um yes
23:38 roadran422 Lol
23:38 Toastdude Heck yes.
23:38 roadran422 Just wondering hahaha...
23:38 wannabe1987 and he's never eaten my food
23:39 Toastdude She's a great cook :P
23:39 roadran422 How do you know toastdude?
23:39 wannabe1987 lee has tho :P
23:39 Toastdude I can tell from 200 miles away :P
23:39 wannabe1987 he's seen photos on my blog
23:39 roadran422 Lol
23:39 roadran422 Yo no puedo cocinar.
23:39 * Toastdude can has be home
23:39 wannabe1987 win
23:39 roadran422 Lol
23:39 NeWtoz I know she can bake
23:40 roadran422 I also need helping ands
23:40 wannabe1987 very true, NeWtoz has had my cookies
23:40 wannabe1987 so has ajprog_laptop
23:42 wannabe1987 newtoz actually bought them vs ajprog_laptop getting freebies
23:46 wannabe1987 .cookies Toastdude
23:46 wannabe1987 .cookie Toastdude
23:46 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I baked you a Moravian spice cookie!
23:46 wannabe1987 fail
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23:49 bazbot has anyone got any experience with an inverse tesla coil ?
23:51 roadran422 More than enough to say I don't know what you are taling about. :)
23:52 * Experimentonomen dips roadran422 in liquid nitrogen for 5 minutes
23:53 Toastdude .cookie wannabe1987
23:53 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a chocolate rainbow cookie!
23:53 bazbot well
23:54 Toastdude bazbot: A receiver coil?
23:54 bazbot I'm not sure
23:55 Toastdude Instead of creating a huge field, it recieves it and makes it into manageable power
23:55 bazbot I got an email today from a friend saying this i propose we make an inverse tesla coil to take advantage of the p.d. between the atmosphere and the ground. it is tesla's hidden secret that i believe needs working on. i have the necisary funds, we should talk about it in more detail
23:56 bazbot I have just been asked to be involved as I do all the engineering for him but this is new to me
23:57 bazbot allegedly tesla did it once and destroyed the building
23:58 roadran422 Experimentonomen: no.
23:58 roadran422 xD
23:59 wannabe1987 guess who has a working toilet now?!
23:59 wannabe1987 me!!!!!
23:59 roadran422 ...?...
23:59 bazbot allegedly if we complete this it will be the first time ever done that has usable energy, so I am quite keen not to make a mess of it

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