Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-27

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Time Nick Message
00:00 bazbot since It involves money
00:00 wannabe1987 i know people who do the teslas for tgg, but they're not on here atm
00:00 roadran422 I can't find anything on google for a inverse tesla coil?
00:01 bazbot I realize from my initial research
00:01 roadran422 lol
00:02 * roadran422 dips Experimentonomen in a cyanide, then in to sulfiric acid, then in to hcl, then in to hfl.
00:02 roadran422 *in to
00:02 bazbot from what I understand it does the tesla coil method inverse taking the energy differently
00:03 bazbot at the moment I am being promised all the gear I need to make it with him so need to know how to do it :p
00:03 roadran422 lol
00:03 roadran422 Experimentonomen: you got it? lol
00:03 wannabe1987 do you want facebook info on people who know this stuff?
00:04 bazbot not particularly that is to much work for me
00:05 wannabe1987 or email addys.....
00:05 wannabe1987 other wise ok
00:06 bazbot if you know of someone who is likely to know about it I would like email please :)
00:08 sndwrx Does the video stream still have scanner audio?
00:08 bazbot the thing I hate about this sought of thing is the fact that he is blind in one eye and partial in the other so I have a lot of work to do as a result
00:13 tonsofpcs hi
00:13 tonsofpcs bazbot: inverse like you're swaping the cathode and anode?
00:13 tonsofpcs sndwrx: sometimes
00:14 sndwrx I was just wondering if someone had been listening to it for the last 20 or 30 minutes or so.
00:14 tonsofpcs sndwrx: I think it
00:14 tonsofpcs 's still set up to allow rewinding
00:15 sndwrx I'll have to check it out, then.
00:15 sndwrx Something serious is happening over at Woodland Mall.
00:15 wannabe1987 bazbot: ipenguiny@gmail.com does the teslas at tgg and he does his own
00:15 wannabe1987 serious as in?
00:16 sndwrx HAven't the slightest, but there are police, fire and rescue at a few of the entrances.
00:16 sndwrx People are running like hell from the mall to their cars.
00:16 wannabe1987 o dear...
00:17 sndwrx BTW I'd be careful about posting email addresses in this channel.  It's logged and could potentially get scraped by spiders/bots and then receive abusive mail.
00:17 wannabe1987 via wood:  Dispatchers say there was a fight at the mall, not a shooting. Police are investigating what happened. No one was seriously injured.
00:17 wannabe1987 i forgot.   oops
00:17 wannabe1987 possibly a shooting
00:17 tonsofpcs i don't hear any audio
00:17 sndwrx I'm listening here:  http://scanmichigan.com/scanner/index.php
00:17 tonsofpcs ah, there it is, yea it's the scanner still
00:17 BotSteve Title: ScanMichigan - Live police scanner from Grand Rapids, Kent County Michigan
00:18 sndwrx I don't like it as much since they moved to ustream, but whatever.  It's still the same content.
00:18 tonsofpcs ustream? it's on justin.tv
00:18 tonsofpcs oh, the scanner people
00:18 tonsofpcs weird
00:18 wannabe1987 no, the live police scanner
00:18 wannabe1987 mmmm hawaiian rolls
00:18 sndwrx That scanner is nice because it covers all the forces in Kent county, and sometimes the eastern end of Ottawa county.
00:19 wannabe1987 my end.  :p
00:20 wannabe1987 time to start packing for the week away
00:20 wannabe1987 .weather sawyer MI
00:20 BotSteve Clear ☼, 32.0℉ (0℃), 30.04in (1014mb), Light breeze 4kt (↑) - KMQT 22:50Z
00:21 wannabe1987 and watch more dr who
00:22 tonsofpcs did you watch the crhismas episode?
00:23 wannabe1987 i'm still in the 2005 season
00:23 wannabe1987 starting ep 5
00:23 wannabe1987 i'm rather behind
00:30 wannabe1987 sndwrx: http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kent_county/woodland-mall-closed-due-to-incident
00:30 BotSteve Title: Woodland stores close due to 'incident' | WOOD TV8
00:30 NeWtoz oh nice, BotSteve
00:30 NeWtoz I needed your help
00:30 wannabe1987 yes?
00:30 NeWtoz dang it, misread
00:30 sndwrx Their front-page article said the mall never did close, and that at 7:15 the stores began to open again.
00:31 NeWtoz thought it said BatSteve
00:31 sndwrx ffs I hate the news.
00:31 wannabe1987 lol you thought BotSteve was batsteVe?
00:32 NeWtoz yeah =/
00:33 wannabe1987 i used to work at woodland
00:35 sndwrx Me too, for three or four weeks.
00:35 sndwrx That place is ghetto now.
00:36 wannabe1987 i worked there for 2 months till they deicded i wasn't working fast enough and let me go over stupid bullshit
00:37 sndwrx That's because you were probably working harder than they, and they felt threatened by that.
00:38 wannabe1987 who knows....i was in the backroom folding clothes...it was a few weeks in, i won't be as fast as the manager whose been there for who knows how lon
00:38 wannabe1987 g*
00:39 wannabe1987 oh noes whats irc gonna do without me for 8 hours tomorrow/
00:40 wannabe1987 ?*
00:42 Coderjoe woot. oil change complete
00:42 wannabe1987 win
00:43 Coderjoe and it occurred to me after I had the car up that if I had started earlier, I could have probably used the lift down at LSL
00:43 NeWtoz I'm failing hardcore in getting the most basic module for BotSteve to work
00:43 Coderjoe except then I might have been asked to do a video on doing an oil change
00:43 NeWtoz I feel so inadequate
00:44 wannabe1987 ??  what you trying to do, NeWtoz?
00:44 wannabe1987 .seen batsteve
00:44 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw BatSteve 90.16 hours ago at 2011-12-23 06:34:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:44:08 UTC
00:44 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Bat-Mobile 145.41 hours ago at 2011-12-20 23:19:33 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
00:44 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Bot-Mobile 146.18 hours ago at 2011-12-20 22:33:21 UTC on #tgg-bots.
00:44 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw BatSteve-Away 235.46 hours ago at 2011-12-17 05:16:48 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
00:44 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Farts-Mobile 378.78 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:57:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
00:44 NeWtoz make a quote db
00:44 wannabe1987 ahhhh
00:44 wannabe1987 .c 90hours to days
00:44 BotSteve 3.75 days
00:44 NeWtoz but I can't even get something like a hello world to work
00:44 Coderjoe last change was around 5000 miles and 6 months ago :-\
00:44 wannabe1987 wheres batsteve
00:44 masterofmonks * [BatSteve-Away] is away (Even if it says I'm available, I'm actually not.  Merry Christmas, everyone!  [Home till New Years!])
00:44 Coderjoe and I was low
00:44 NeWtoz but I guess I should read the manual
00:44 sndwrx As in something that people can enjoy random quotes from history using like a .quote command?
00:45 wannabe1987 Coderjoe: i've had one that was a year past due :/
00:45 Coderjoe oh, ive done that
00:45 wannabe1987 i was poor.
00:45 NeWtoz random quotes from chat that people have added
00:45 wannabe1987 grandpa bought me one thankfully
00:45 Coderjoe before today, the previous fill was in june. the fill before that was in september the previous year
00:45 sndwrx NeWtoz: So like a #thegeekgroup version of bash.org?
00:45 NeWtoz yes
00:46 wannabe1987 where is batsteves home??????
00:46 sndwrx Awesome.  From now on, you'll only find me in :NSFW.
00:46 wannabe1987 other than battlecreek
00:46 * sndwrx snickers.
00:46 wannabe1987 lol
00:46 NeWtoz lol
00:46 Coderjoe eh. doing an oil change is easy and inexpensive
00:46 wannabe1987 he went to the shooting range
00:46 wannabe1987 i know its easy, but i have no ramps or tools
00:46 NeWtoz I'm getting bothered that I can't quote wannabe1987 out of context
00:47 wannabe1987 LOL
00:48 wannabe1987 he's from ohio?
00:49 wannabe1987 :shrug:  i dunno
00:49 wannabe1987 anyway
00:53 egrsteve hello
00:53 wannabe1987 hi steve!
00:53 egrsteve hi kell
00:53 egrsteve uy
00:53 wannabe1987 anyone want my tropicals lifesavers?
00:53 egrsteve *killy
00:53 egrsteve *kelly
00:53 wannabe1987 win!
00:53 egrsteve (I can't type)
00:53 wannabe1987 it shows
00:53 egrsteve thanks for noticing
00:54 NeWtoz oh, silly me, I know what I was doing wrong
00:54 wannabe1987 anytime
00:54 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
00:54 wannabe1987 hi injektion
00:55 injektion Hey
00:55 wannabe1987 hows you?
00:58 injektion Things I need to do: 1) I need to edit .profile for bash 2) Cisco switch so the Octane stops bitching about being plugged into a GBE switch
01:07 wannabe1987 BotSteve
01:13 * dr_jkl stirs the hornet's nest
01:13 dr_jkl DSA or RSA?
01:17 sndwrx emacs or vim?
01:18 injektion nano/pico
01:18 sndwrx WORDPAD LOLOLOLOLO
01:18 injektion I don't find vi or vim easy to use
01:18 injektion It's counter intuitive
01:19 sndwrx In many ways, yes.  But, like anything, with use it makes more sense.
01:19 sndwrx I simply haven't invested enough use for it to be worthwhile to me.  :P
01:21 wannabe1987 its a dalek!
01:21 Coderjoe i use butterflies
01:22 Coderjoe http://xkcd.com/378/
01:22 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Real Programmers
01:24 sndwrx Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ
01:24 sndwrx })i({
01:25 wannabe1987 o.o
01:25 wannabe1987 he's magic!
01:26 wannabe1987 ...
01:27 wannabe1987 holy shit i thought this day would never come
01:27 tonsofpcs boxing day?
01:27 wannabe1987 nope
01:28 wannabe1987 i got refriended :D
01:28 tonsofpcs injektion: octane?
01:28 injektion Yes
01:29 * sndwrx groooaaannns.
01:29 tonsofpcs what is that?
01:30 tonsofpcs (I'm presuming you're not talking about an SGI)
01:31 sndwrx Ponko isn't around.
01:31 sndwrx bugger.
01:31 Monkeh|Lap Anyone know anyone in the UK who can do SMD soldering?
01:32 tonsofpcs manufactured or by-hand?
01:32 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: By or with suitable equipment. IC replacement.
01:33 tonsofpcs en-mass or just one-offs?
01:33 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Just a one-off.
01:34 tonsofpcs I know someone who might (or might know someone), I'll leave him a message.  Meanwhile, try asking around in ##electronics ?
01:34 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I'd rather go for someone known by someone I know.
01:35 injektion tonsofpcs, It is an SGI machine
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01:37 tonsofpcs injektion: why's it not like the gig-e switch? can't autonegotiate?
01:37 injektion It complains at least 30 times a minute about it not being connected, etc.
01:37 Monkeh|Lap Nice. What NIC and switch?
01:38 injektion The switch is some crappy net gear one and the NIC is made by SGI themselves
01:38 Monkeh|Lap Didn't know SGI made NICs. Probably a fairly common chip on it.
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01:38 tonsofpcs is it managable/'smart' ?
01:38 tonsofpcs (the switch)
01:38 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: You beat me to it.
01:39 tonsofpcs and does it show the rate and mode (full/half duplex) of connection for the link?
01:39 Monkeh|Lap Sounds creepily similar to my issues. :P
01:40 injektion It's not a manageable switch
01:40 Monkeh|Lap Fail :{
01:40 Monkeh|Lap Dumb switches are annoying
01:40 tonsofpcs because if one end of a link is set to autonegotiate and the other is set to something static, they'll fall back to 10T-half and, if one of them doesn't degrade gracefully, you'll eventually get a collission causing a connection reset
01:41 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Haven't actually met a switch which can be set static yet, just limited in autoneg options.
01:41 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: really? all of my managed and 'smart' switches can be set static.
01:42 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: All my managed ones (3Com, TP-Link (yes, quiet.), Foundry) just limit the autoneg to whatever you set.
01:44 * Monkeh|Lap ponders where he'll get a replacement NIC if someone is willing to do the soldering
01:45 Monkeh|Lap injektion: What sort of NIC does this machine have exactly?
01:46 injektion I don't really know who made the NIC all I know is that it's on the motherboard
01:46 Monkeh|Lap injektion: Can you get the PCI ID out of the OS?
01:46 injektion It's MIPS hardware not x86 hardware
01:46 injektion It doesn't even have PCI slots
01:46 injektion :P
01:46 Monkeh|Lap injektion: It almost certainly still has a PCI bus :P
01:47 injektion It only has a PCI bus if you have the PCI card cage option which I do niot
01:47 injektion not*
01:48 tonsofpcs injektion: what OS?
01:48 injektion IRIX 6.5.29
01:49 Monkeh|Lap injektion: Hm, okay, it is a custom SIO chip.. On a PCI bus. :P
01:50 injektion http://goput.it/4f2.png
01:50 Monkeh|Lap injektion: Seeeee? ;P
01:52 tonsofpcs XIO bus
01:52 wannabe1987 i don't like this new facebook timeline thing...i can't change my photo!
01:53 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: "Integral Fast Ethernet ef0, version 1, pci 2"
01:53 NeWtoz astro73|alice, astro73|mal around?
01:53 tonsofpcs ya, and?  I have true PCI bussed cards that show up as ISA cards in certain OSes....
01:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Look up the IOC3 if you like. It's a PCI chip.
02:02 wannabe1987 NeWtoz, if you need, i can get ahold of astro for you....
02:03 tonsofpcs hmm... what should I have as a snack before bed?
02:03 NeWtoz nothing important
02:03 wannabe1987 banket.  o wait, thats mine
02:03 wannabe1987 ok
02:03 NeWtoz just regarding bot stuff
02:03 NeWtoz but I've moved on for now
02:03 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: This time of year? Cold turkey?
02:10 dr_jkl irix
02:10 dr_jkl ugh
02:10 * dr_jkl finds a bin to upchuck in
02:10 wannabe1987 too much party?
02:10 dr_jkl no, irix
02:10 wannabe1987 ??
02:10 dr_jkl irix hardware needs to die
02:11 wannabe1987 ooo ok
02:11 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Oh, I'm sure it could be worse.
02:11 injektion I <3 IRIX
02:11 injektion IRIX was good and Solaris is AWFUL
02:11 Monkeh|Lap Yes, there is Slowaris..
02:12 injektion Every GUI admin tool in Solaris is JAVA based and SLOW
02:12 yNos easy fix for that, you know
02:12 yNos dont use the gui
02:12 injektion Solaris made this dual dual core Woodcrest Xeon come to a crawl when I opened a java admin tool
02:13 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Easy fix for that y'know, don't use Slowaris.
02:13 injektion yNos, That would work if it wasn't a desktop
02:13 yNos Jave: Runs equally shitty on all patforms.
02:13 yNos **Java
02:13 yNos as a desktop?
02:13 yNos why?
02:13 injektion Yes
02:13 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Actually Java can run fairly well.
02:13 injektion People use Solaris as a desktop :P
02:13 Monkeh|Lap yNos: It's just.. rare.
02:14 yNos solaris shines brightest when moving IO around.. as a storage subsystem, or a huge database...
02:14 injektion Tell that to the FAA who is still using Solaris as desktops to control radar :)
02:14 Monkeh|Lap Anyone else noticed how the next JRE/JDK release is going to be built on the open source version instead?
02:14 yNos not.. as a desktop.
02:15 sndwrx yNos: Is your new Scooby burgundy?
02:15 tonsofpcs injektion: hey, solaris would be great for tracking sola and other objects between here and there ;)
02:15 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Hey, could be worse. Some people use Windows as a desktop.
02:15 yNos fo sho
02:15 injektion Or OS X *takes stab at self*
02:15 * tonsofpcs takes the knife away from injektion
02:15 yNos OS X, the cheapest commercial unix for the desktop
02:16 Hackbat I use the top of a table as a desktop
02:16 wannabe1987 lol @ Hackbat
02:16 Monkeh|Lap yNos: It's not that cheap once you wrap the hardware round it!
02:16 yNos have you priced a sun workstation?
02:16 injektion ^
02:16 ajprog_laptop yNos: is this good enough for a reminder?
02:16 injektion I have
02:16 yNos yup
02:16 injektion I have priced them every now and then
02:17 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Not recently, but you're not intentionally locked in with Slowaris. :P
02:17 yNos ajprog_laptop: yes, i have already changed the log rotation to 7 days.
02:17 injektion I have priced the AMD based ones and the SPARC based ones and I keep getting sticker shock
02:17 Monkeh|Lap Of course, you can hack OSX to run on some PCs.
02:17 ajprog_laptop 7days per, so 35 total?
02:17 Monkeh|Lap But that's a bit much hacking for me.
02:17 yNos Yarp.. that is on my to-do list..
02:18 yNos ajprog_laptop: yup.
02:18 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Mmm, logs.
02:18 Hackbat it's less hacking and more spending wayy too much cash for some hardware
02:18 ajprog_laptop can we also change it so it has 10 or 15 archives instead just 5
02:19 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: No no, the hacking is when you DON'T buy the crApple. Of course, there's plenty of hacking if you do.
02:19 sndwrx Monkeh|Lap: It really doesn't require a great deal of hacking anymore.
02:19 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Still requires hacking.
02:19 Hackbat monkeh the hackintosh still uses expensive hardwARE
02:19 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Requires hacking to so much as type.
02:20 sndwrx That's because you abhor OS X.
02:20 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: It should run on most of what I have laying around.
02:20 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: No, that's because they don't use a valid keyboard layout.
02:20 sndwrx But as far as running OS X on non-Apple hardware, it isn't terribly difficult now.
02:20 Coderjoe yay apple
02:21 yNos ajprog_laptop: If your intent is to keep chatty service logs around, we need larger drives.. or to setup a log server.
02:21 Monkeh|Lap yNos: How big a drive do you need for compressed logs?
02:21 wannabe1987 if i need to piece videos together on microsoft, what free program do i use?
02:21 Coderjoe virtualdub?
02:21 yNos when we keep 15 weeks of logs around, it adds up.
02:22 Coderjoe what exactly do you mean by "piece videos together"?
02:22 Hackbat Monkeh|Lap, I've looked into it and you do need specific processors and motherboard so ehh
02:22 wannabe1987 we played games this afternoon and i videoed everyone and i want to make the separate videos into one video
02:22 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Eh, can't be all that big.
02:22 Hackbat too much trouble for OSx :\
02:23 Coderjoe if they were all shot with the same camera with the same settings, vdub might be able to do it
02:23 wannabe1987 yeah, my camera, didn't change settings.
02:23 wannabe1987 .g virtualdub
02:23 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.virtualdub.org/
02:23 yNos Monkeh|Lap: we had to turn up the verbosity to get what we want.
02:23 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Just how verbose is it?
02:24 Coderjoe you'll need to have the codecs installed and they need to be avi files (not mp4 or mov or 3gp)
02:24 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Because 1.1MiB of logs turns to <20KiB with bzip2. That's a LOT of text. (random log I just picked, nothing specific)
02:24 sndwrx Hackbat: Not so much anymore.  OF course, there are specfici boards and procs that are simpler to work with, but it's possible with virtually anything.
02:24 yNos dhcp? whenever someone powers on, wakes up from hibernate, moves from vlan20 to vlan30 to vlanXX.. it adds up, and it will only get worse when we open to the public.
02:24 sndwrx Hackbat: I've run a hackintosh since at least 2006 (though it's now in the shed because I have a MacBook).
02:24 Hackbat so even an AMD processor?
02:25 sndwrx Yeah, even on AMD now.
02:25 Hackbat still
02:25 Hackbat I mean it's  osX
02:25 wannabe1987 they should be avi files...
02:25 Monkeh|Lap yNos: My DHCP logs are pretty verbose (not to mention I use a fairly insanely short lease time)
02:26 Hackbat still not worth the effort
02:26 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Logs back into November are 14MiB uncompressed.
02:26 Coderjoe text compresses amazingly well
02:26 injektion Can't the DHCP server track across vans?
02:26 Hackbat if i want a unix like enviroment I'll use linux
02:27 injektion Or BSD
02:27 yNos that it does, we are at 10mb in total for about 30 devices.. and 15ish people. when we open our doors, that will grow quite a bit.
02:27 yNos injektion: it can, but each time is a new event to get logged.
02:27 Monkeh|Lap yNos: And mine go down to 424KiB compressed.
02:27 tonsofpcs yNos: this for the cafe?
02:27 yNos its the scaling issue i am trying to plan for.
02:27 Coderjoe though I don't know if gzip or xz would be better than bzip2 for highly repetitive log files
02:27 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Is your 10MB (is that MB or MiB?) compressed or decompressed?
02:28 yNos tonsofpcs: yes
02:28 tonsofpcs yNos: any rate shaping?
02:28 injektion yNos, how much does that really generate in logs?
02:29 wannabe1987 dad got a cowbell today ...
02:29 yNos $ sudo du -sk log
02:29 yNos 109484   log
02:29 yNos $
02:29 Monkeh|Lap yNos: That's a single, uncompressed file?
02:30 yNos tonsofpcs: no shaping yet, it will be.
02:31 tonsofpcs yNos: how many IPs do you have from the ISP?
02:31 yNos Monkeh|Lap: no, that is 10 uncompressed files, 8x6 compressed, 4 binary.
02:31 wannabe1987 "Best Fortune Cookie ever: Don't worry about the world coming to an end. It's already tomorrow in Australia."
02:31 * tonsofpcs likes the queue tree on routeros, not sure how/if it can be configured to generate a queue per IP, checking now
02:32 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Okay, so the whole lot compressed would be a tenth of that size if not smaller.
02:32 yNos tonsofpcs: 16, 13 usable, and the 10.100.0.0/16 to manage.
02:33 tonsofpcs "the" 10.100.0.0/16?
02:33 Monkeh|Lap yNos: You got PATA available in that box?
02:33 yNos Monkeh|Lap: i am not going to compress the filesystem.. syslogd cannot write to compressed files, the rotator takes care of that.
02:33 Monkeh|Lap yNos: I didn't say to compress the filesystem. Rotate daily, compress on rotate.
02:33 Coderjoe i'd be concerned about your dhcpd leases file getting rather large
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Doesn't take up much space at all.
02:34 yNos Monkeh|Lap: yes, we have pata;  truthefully, storage isnt the issue, keeping a couple months of logs is wastefull..
02:35 Monkeh|Lap yNos: I normally keep a week. A month if I really need to be certain.
02:35 Monkeh|Lap Some things as little as three days.
02:35 yNos the lease file is ok, we used the same openbsd dhcpd server in a 3000ish node network before.
02:35 Monkeh|Lap Eh, lease files are easy.
02:35 Monkeh|Lap If access time is a concern you can put it in RAM easily enough
02:36 Monkeh|Lap Assuming your OS has something like unionfs available
02:36 Monkeh|Lap (Love that thing)
02:36 yNos i can make ramdisks - it would take a kernel swap though.
02:37 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Yeah, but with unionfs it handles writing it to a normal filesystem automatically in the background
02:37 Monkeh|Lap yNos: All the advantages of a ramdisk and, after a few seconds, none of the disadvantages. With no funny scripting needed. :)
02:38 Monkeh|Lap yNos: I use aufs over a ramdisk for my portage tree on Gentoo. All fed into a squashfs image every week or on reboot. It's obscenely fast..
02:39 yNos truthefully, i have been wanting to setup a syslog server for the cisco APs.
02:39 injektion You could always turn DHCP off and make people configure everything themselves lol
02:39 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Does OpenBSD have anything like unionfs?
02:39 yNos doesnt look like it.
02:39 * Monkeh|Lap chalks one up
02:39 yNos i dont know though
02:39 yNos there are many things that linux has over obsd.
02:39 Monkeh|Lap Hmm, it's available for FreeBSD and NetBSD too
02:40 yNos stability and security arent one of them though
02:40 Monkeh|Lap Probably portable to OBSD but they're really stubborn about new things. ;)
02:40 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Ehh, let's not go there.
02:40 Monkeh|Lap yNos: At the end of the day, the majority of security issues are down to user configuration or third party software rather than the underlying OS
02:40 Monkeh|Lap Unless your name is Windows.
02:41 yNos everything on by default is annoying too.
02:41 Monkeh|Lap yNos: See, I don't do everything on. ;)
02:41 Monkeh|Lap yNos: You're thinking of debian. :P
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02:41 sndwrx A Debian standard install is fairly bare.
02:41 injektion Every time I see OBSD mentioned I think about how theo de raadt is such a douche
02:42 Hackbat Would any of you mind reccomending a book to me?
02:42 Monkeh|Lap injektion: There are lots of douches going round. Try not to run into lennart.
02:42 Hackbat I'm looking to get another on my kindle
02:42 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Yep, plenty bare. Then you install something and it goes 'Hey! I'll be helpful! I'm going to start your service with a default configuration without asking you!"
02:42 dr_jkl fffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
02:42 sndwrx Hackbat: What do you like?
02:42 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: Ever read Hyperion?
02:43 dr_jkl latest update broke my root
02:43 sndwrx Monkeh|Lap: *snicker* That's true.
02:43 sndwrx dr_jkl: What device?
02:43 Hackbat let me find my kindle and I will tell you
02:43 dr_jkl sndwrx: an asus eee transformer
02:43 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: I have good reasons to be annoyed by most Linux distros. Even Gentoo annoys me, just less than the rest. :)
02:43 sndwrx dr_jkl: Bummer.
02:43 sndwrx hehe
02:43 yNos I lol when geek group members think chris as a god, but think DeRaat is a douche.
02:43 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Also, I hate split packages in general.
02:44 sndwrx Monkeh|Lap: What do you think of Arch?
02:44 injektion Who is lennart
02:44 yNos they are sooo similar its not funny
02:44 Monkeh|Lap yNos: He's not a god, he's just damned awesome sometimes.
02:44 yNos irl, they are both very similar
02:44 injektion DeRatt's problem with closed source drivers is why I hate him
02:44 Hackbat The hitchhiker series, redwall series, Stephen king's books, books about hackers like Ghost in the wires.
02:44 injektion Just take the driver and STFU it's all you have
02:45 Monkeh|Lap injektion: Lennart Poettering.
02:45 injektion Stop bitching and use it
02:45 yNos but he has opened up soooo many drivers out there.
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02:45 yNos mainly in scsi and network arena
02:45 yNos but still
02:45 wannabe1987 LEE!
02:45 Monkeh|Lap yNos: OBSD was the driving force behind getting open Atheros drivers and HAL.
02:46 yNos yup
02:46 Monkeh|Lap yNos: For which I am grateful because the Atheros HAL has some weird bloody bugs.
02:46 Hackbat Monkeh|Lap,  no I've not
02:46 wannabe1987 lwq-ipod :D
02:46 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: Go get it.
02:46 yNos once you get an open driver, stability and performance go up
02:46 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Usually. Not always.
02:46 injektion yNos, I want my hardware to work and if that means using a closed source proprietary driver I don't care if it is closed or not I want my hardware to f'ing work
02:46 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: Hyperion by Dan Simmons.
02:46 lwq-ipod hi
02:46 yNos How do you feel about capitalism?
02:46 wannabe1987 hi :D
02:46 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: Four books in total, starting with Hyperion.
02:47 Monkeh|Lap yNos: A great example of open drivers not being perfect is nouveau.
02:47 yNos If you want a machine made by people who support open source, your dollar is your vote.
02:47 injektion yNos, I don't like capitalism
02:47 injektion That is all I will say
02:47 yNos i am a big fan of *open* capitalism.
02:48 Monkeh|Lap yNos: It STILL doesn't do dynamic clocking, has major performance issues in many places, and severe stability issues with high res video via xv (on this GPU at least). I'm moving back to the proprietary driver on this laptop shortly.
02:48 injektion I am a not a big fan of everyone for themselves
02:48 wannabe1987 girls.  OMG
02:48 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: It's a geek channel, you expect what?
02:48 wannabe1987 actually, i was talking about my housemate
02:49 injektion yNos, let me put it like this I am a Socalist
02:49 Monkeh|Lap Oh, okay.
02:49 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Yes, women. :P
02:49 injektion Socialist*
02:49 Monkeh|Lap injektion: DIRTY COMMIE!
02:49 yNos Everyone for them selves raises the group up as a whole, it may make some people a bit higher on the pole than the people that are lower on the pole, but as a whole things get better.
02:49 injektion There is a difference between Socialism and communism
02:49 wannabe1987 yes.  women.  can't open stupid jars (i'm a girl, et i can)
02:49 Coderjoe if you want a *machine* made by people that support open source, you're going to have a hard time spending your dollar...
02:49 wannabe1987 yet*
02:49 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Unfortunately real life doesn't quite turn out that way.
02:49 Monkeh|Lap injektion: I'm just kidding. :P
02:50 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: Yep. Even the most open platforms are closed on one level or another..
02:51 Monkeh|Lap Honestly, I don't support a totally free and open source world.
02:51 yNos it may not always be that way, but from my personal experience (east and west germany) the east germans were very secure in not striving to achiev..
02:51 yNos they were safe
02:51 yNos and didnt need to.
02:51 * tonsofpcs hands Coderjoe some core memory, a pallet of transistors, and says "here's your new high speed CPU"
02:51 yNos but look where there economy was.
02:51 yNos look at their state of tech
02:52 wannabe1987 dumb allergies
02:52 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: be happy they aren't smart alergies, then they'd fight harder!
02:52 injektion yNos, I'd go so far and say the Germans are doing better than we are
02:52 wannabe1987 but why must they exist?!
02:52 yNos injektion, i agree
02:53 injektion I'd like to immigrate to Germany but there is no way in hell I can do it right now
02:53 Monkeh|Lap I wouldn't
02:54 Monkeh|Lap Germany has germans.
02:54 yNos i lived in munchen from 88-90 with my stepmom(a native) and dad.
02:54 injektion I like Germans
02:54 tonsofpcs I wouldn't, I can't speak german well.
02:54 wannabe1987 you lived in germany?
02:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Tha'ts okay. most germans probably can't either.
02:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: After all, most English and American people can't speak English too well. ;)
02:56 tonsofpcs I can say good day, how are you, and "ich ben ein berliner"
02:56 yNos and seeing what a difference there was when we went to see oma's sisters in the other side of berlin and how the city looked was in stark contrast to what i saw in the west side.
02:56 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: Also, see webscription.net for a while pile of stuff. Some free.
02:56 wannabe1987 i can say "ich lieben dich"
02:56 tonsofpcs oh, and gesundheit
02:56 yNos you love dick?
02:56 yNos lol
02:56 wannabe1987 lol no
02:56 tonsofpcs and "spielen"
02:56 yNos oh!
02:56 wannabe1987 i was told it was i love you :P
02:56 yNos ;)
02:56 yNos i know a little german.
02:56 yNos not much.
02:57 yNos i can understand it better than i can speak it.
02:57 tonsofpcs guten tag, vie gatehs
02:57 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Don't say things like that when I'm eating.. :D
02:57 * Monkeh|Lap nearly choked
02:57 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: don't eat when yNos is saying thinggs like that
02:58 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Probably a good idea in general not to eat in the presence of yNos. ;)
02:58 tonsofpcs ein zwei drei fier funf sechs seben ocht noin zehn
02:58 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: been there, done that, i survived.
02:58 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Ah, he wasn't doing his flashing act that day then.
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03:00 wannabe1987 hi ToriJ
03:02 sndwrx Anyone have recommendations for internet connection QoS tracking utilities?
03:03 injektion My car still has labels that says Made In West Germany
03:04 yNos what kind of car?
03:04 injektion BMW
03:04 Hackbat west was the good one right?
03:05 injektion Yes
03:05 injektion East was the commie bastards
03:12 Hackbat it'd be easier just to call North Korea, "Bad korea and south korea, "Super Happy Fun Time Korea"
03:12 wannabe1987 lol
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03:19 Cprossu haha Monkeh|Lap
03:20 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: haha what in particular?
03:20 Cprossu the 'eating in the presence of yNos comment.
03:20 Monkeh|Lap :)
03:20 Cprossu It can be done though
03:20 Monkeh|Lap The man's dangerous
03:20 Cprossu I'm telling you the truth!
03:21 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: My Mac Mini has a problem. :{
03:21 Cprossu what's it doing =(
03:22 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: The Atheros WLAN is very unhappy with something and craps itself (firmware problem) and the NIC is buggered.
03:22 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Remaking the joints on the connector had no effect so it's probably the chip.
03:23 Cprossu no fun
03:23 Monkeh|Lap None at all.
03:23 Cprossu that on a pcie board?
03:23 Monkeh|Lap In better news, however, my new iron works a treat.
03:23 Cprossu *minipcie
03:23 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: iirc they're not standard pinout.
03:25 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Hmm, apparently they are.. Okay, so I have a spare Atheros card I can put in there.
03:25 Cprossu woot
03:25 Monkeh|Lap Still doesn't fix the lack of a reliable NIC :{
03:26 Cprossu so even the onboard ethernet is buggered?
03:26 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yep.
03:26 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Fails at gigabit in a most horrific manner.
03:26 wannabe1987 do you know how ard it is to figure out days off a MONTH in advance when you don't know a work sched for the "main" job?  eeeeeee its cutting it realllly really close :/
03:26 Monkeh|Lap Does 100 but I don't have faith in it.
03:26 Monkeh|Lap And it has an autoneg issue with my switch causing it to go half duplex
03:26 wannabe1987 and i don't have a shirt for tomorrow, so i'm wearing a normal scrub top
03:27 Cprossu http://www.bvm-store.com/ProductDetail.asp?fdProductId=547
03:27 BotSteve Title: MPX-574D - Mini-PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Module from BVM Limited
03:27 Cprossu hrmmm that's interesting
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03:27 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Neat. Bit of a pain to use in a Mac Mini though. :P
03:28 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Suppose I could terminate it with some stranded cat5e and remove the audio ports.
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03:44 roadran422 Hi toastdude
03:44 Toastdude Hello roadran422
03:44 BotSteve toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
03:44 BotSteve At 01:07Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell toastdude wannabe made you a chocolate chip cookie
03:44 wannabe1987 Toastdude!!!! you came back!!!!!
03:44 roadran422 Lol
03:44 roadran422 Ate sushi today. EWH! -_-
03:45 wannabe1987 why'd you leave me....
03:45 roadran422 Lol
03:45 Toastdude Yes I did wannabe!!! /me was out wating
03:45 Toastdude *eating
03:45 wannabe1987 i love sushi
03:45 roadran422 I now hate it.
03:45 roadran422 It's tastes... Minerally?
03:45 roadran422 Raw sushi atleast.
03:45 wannabe1987 how long does it take to eat?!
03:45 Toastdude And shopping
03:45 Toastdude $190 worth of stuff...
03:45 wannabe1987 ooo.  o.O
03:46 Toastdude lol http://www.stumbleupon.com/su/2hkwk4/pete.com/view/victory/
03:46 BotSteve Title: Victory! - pete.com - StumbleUpon
03:46 Toastdude Fail..
03:46 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: You'll learn to appreciate tastes as you get older. :P
03:46 Toastdude http://pete.com/view/more-than-epic There
03:47 BotSteve Title: More Than Epic - pete.com
03:47 Toastdude ...
03:47 Toastdude http://pete.com/files/photos/religion-explain-this.jpg
03:47 Toastdude There
03:48 wannabe1987 lol
03:49 wannabe1987 .
03:49 * Toastdude can has failure
03:49 wannabe1987 you is not a failure fyi
03:50 Toastdude I'm not a failure, but I did fail
03:50 wannabe1987 doesn't matter.
03:50 wannabe1987 happens to the best of us
03:51 Toastdude lol
03:51 Toastdude http://pete.com/files/photos/clouds.jpg
03:51 wannabe1987 seen it
03:52 chunks joined #thegeekgroup
03:52 wannabe1987 hi chunks!
03:52 wannabe1987 you've been MIA
03:52 chunks hello
03:52 chunks i've been busy
03:53 wannabe1987 happens to the best of us
03:54 chunks i am so bored right now...
03:55 Toastdude "No, I am not single. I have a long term relationship because my girlfriend lives in the future."
03:55 wannabe1987 ...
03:56 wannabe1987 people are idiots
03:57 wannabe1987 you don't steel ipads from geeks!
03:57 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Real geeks don't have iPads to steal
03:58 wannabe1987 no, this is one of boden's friends....got his/her ipad stolen at a christmas party....bodens status says "geeks, attack"
03:59 Monkeh|Lap Uh oh.
03:59 Monkeh|Lap Someone's going to find themselves in a shitstorm
03:59 wannabe1987 http://www.facebook.com/CaptainBoden/posts/2892263343203  status update
03:59 wannabe1987 yep
03:59 BotSteve Title: Log In | Facebook
04:01 wannabe1987 it was at a black tie birthday party and now (according to the guy) they have to re-evaluate friends, becuase a friend betrayed them
04:03 wannabe1987 i know the photographer that was there
04:04 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=qDFNZdMWcRU  (completely un related)
04:04 BotSteve Title: Pulling a tooth using a Nerf gun - YouTube
04:07 Gaxnys wannabe1987: oh lol. :)
04:13 wannabe1987 http://www.stellaflysocialmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/MG_00774.jpg  this is the kind of party it was - a black tie....not the kind anyone could come off the street and steal an ipad
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04:16 wannabe1987 lee! :D
04:18 wannabe1987 lwq1996?
04:18 Toastdude Lee!
04:19 lwq1996 hi
04:19 wannabe1987 you *are* alive, good!
04:19 lwq1996 yes i am
04:19 wannabe1987 good!  hows life today?
04:21 lwq1996 boring
04:21 wannabe1987 uh oh
04:21 wannabe1987 i got gifts :P  christmas money and body spray :D
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04:24 lwq1996 lol
04:25 wannabe1987 .cookie lwq1996
04:25 BotSteve Here you go, lwq1996, I baked you a double chocolate chip cookie!
04:26 wannabe1987 too bad you don't have any cookies (i assume they're gone)
04:27 lwq1996 no
04:27 lwq1996 i still have some
04:27 Coderjoe I have a bunch stashed in my web browser
04:27 wannabe1987 ooo ok...you hae more than i do
04:27 wannabe1987 me too! :P
04:29 egrsteve .seen tonsofpcs
04:29 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw tonsofpcs 1.51 hours ago at 2011-12-27 02:58:40 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:29:30 UTC
04:29 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw nick:tonsxchat 2034.31 hours ago at 2011-10-03 10:10:40 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
04:33 NeWtoz they definitely need a timeout on that
04:34 wannabe1987 write one!
04:34 wannabe1987 :P
04:34 NeWtoz Once I can talk to one of them and figure out the qoutedb module
04:34 NeWtoz quotedb even
04:39 tonsofpcs hi
04:39 tonsofpcs egrsteve: !
04:39 * wannabe1987 hands out candy.
04:39 wannabe1987 it was 1/2 off at meijer today :D
04:39 tonsofpcs yay
04:40 egrsteve question for you tonsofpcs do you know the pinout to 26 pin ccu cables?
04:40 tonsofpcs nope.  What make/model camera/CCU?
04:41 tonsofpcs JVC?
04:41 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON9CdliJbvc&amp;feature=share   what you get for clicking randoml links on facebook
04:41 BotSteve Title: Santana Ry Cooder The Healer - YouTube
04:41 egrsteve sony and or jvc
04:41 Coderjoe egrsteve: does this help? http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://195.2.37.154/indexes/pi/LFS/May_2004/00035597.pdf
04:41 wannabe1987 getting close to bedtime :/
04:42 tonsofpcs might have a book at work.  I doubt it.  pinout might be in the manual for the JVC GY-DV5x0 cameras [x is 0,2,3, or 5 iirc]
04:42 Cprossu lol is that the frankencam egrsteve?
04:42 wannabe1987 Toastdude: poke
04:42 Toastdude poke
04:42 wannabe1987 i'm leaving in 20 fyi
04:43 Toastdude No! D:
04:43 egrsteve i think it might work
04:44 wannabe1987 yes!!!! i have a mtg at 9 at church and then work from 1:30-10
04:44 egrsteve the sony/ jvc pinout seems the same for power and video
04:44 wannabe1987 and possibly lunch at chez olga in easttown
04:48 Coderjoe that was apparently from a sony support site, based on the post it appeared in on some forum
04:49 Coderjoe <3 pulling ancient pdf files from long-dead links via the wayback
04:49 wannabe1987 ....the meds are sugar free....do i bring them back tomorrow and get new meds or do i drink them anyway?  will they taste nasty?
04:49 Cprossu Coderjoe that makes me happy too
04:50 wannabe1987 and apparently you're not allowed to talk at *all* after 11pm in this house.....
04:50 Toastdude ...
04:50 wannabe1987 i was told to SHHHH people are lseeping.
04:50 wannabe1987 i don't talk loudly!
04:51 wannabe1987 sleeping*
04:51 wannabe1987 and why are meds sugar free/!
04:51 wannabe1987 ?!*
04:51 wannabe1987 now i have to return them
04:51 wannabe1987 :/
04:51 dr_jkl why
04:51 wannabe1987 its clear....it looks odd
04:51 wannabe1987 because it'll taste nasty
04:51 wannabe1987 most sugar free things taste nasty, no offense to any diabetics
04:52 egrsteve it has most pins, a bunch are labeled NC with is I assume serial control and intercom among other possailities
04:53 Coderjoe I wonder if you would be able to talk the pinout out of one of the companies that sell cables, like these guys: http://www.clarkwire.com/catCameraCables.htm
04:53 BotSteve Title: Custom and Standard Length OEM Camera Cable-Welcome to Clark Wire & Cable
04:53 wannabe1987 are there black hobbits?
04:55 Coderjoe hmm
04:56 egrsteve I saw that, but to make a straigh through cable not all pinout data is needed just signal/shield pairing, they may not know it all
04:56 Coderjoe sony 14-pin pinout: http://www.rcrowley.com/sonypinout.htm
04:56 BotSteve Title: Sony 14-Pin Connector Pinout
04:56 egrsteve I have that page alrready
04:57 egrsteve which tells me a lot but not everything
04:57 Cprossu oh god that's weird egrsteve
04:57 egrsteve what?
04:57 Cprossu google images when I type "JVC CCU Pinout"
04:57 Cprossu comes up with the c. boden test image I made a long time ago
04:57 egrsteve ok
04:58 Cprossu http://www.cameratim.com/electronics/camera-connectors
04:58 BotSteve Title: Camera Connectors
04:58 Cprossu ^ got this already?
04:58 Coderjoe has some pinout info. seen it? http://forums.newtek.com/archive/index.php/t-99276.html
04:59 BotSteve Title: CA-537 Pinout [Archive] - NewTek Discussions
04:59 Cprossu ^ full link http://forums.newtek.com/showthread.php?t=99276
04:59 BotSteve Title: CA-537 Pinout - NewTek Discussions
05:00 Monkeh|Lap JVC manual suggests the pinout is the same as Sony for a 26-pin cable (how many pins are we talking on your cameras?)
05:02 egrsteve 2 pin
05:02 egrsteve 26pin
05:03 egrsteve according to cprossus link there are at least 2 pinouts
05:03 egrsteve although similar there are a few diffs
05:03 Coderjoe mmm
05:03 Coderjoe http://pro.jvc.com/prof/attributes/inst_man.jsp?model_id=MDL101625&amp;feature_id=11
05:03 BotSteve Title: JVC Professional Technical Manuals page
05:03 egrsteve such as serial data
05:03 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: According to JVC's manual the JVC and Sony cables are compatible
05:04 Monkeh|Lap There's apparently a pinout here but I haven't registered to get it: http://www.churchmedia.net/forums/video-distribution/43879-camera-control-over-cat5-6-a-2.html
05:04 BotSteve Title: Camera Control Over Cat5 or 6 cable? - Page 2 - The Church Media Community
05:05 egrsteve i think that forum cprossu posted has it
05:05 egrsteve in text form
05:05 tonsofpcs DXC-M7 is pretty standard iirc
05:05 Cprossu hrmmm
05:05 * wannabe1987 wonders if she really has a mtg tomorrow or if itts weds
05:06 egrsteve it looks like it may be dsc-m7
05:06 * Monkeh|Lap demands more hours in the day
05:06 wannabe1987 its too late to call now...i'll just show up anyway
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05:06 egrsteve *dxc
05:06 Cprossu so did you get another chance to look at that 6801(or whatever the number was) rack to verify the AGC part?
05:06 * Monkeh|Lap also demands his lights stop flickering
05:06 * wannabe1987 gives Monkeh|Lap her hours
05:06 Cprossu *or was it ADC)
05:06 Cprossu anyway
05:06 * wannabe1987 gives a banana to the lights, does that help?
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05:06 egrsteve ha ha
05:06 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Only if you want a bad smell.
05:06 wannabe1987 this is why my calandar needs days IN DECEMBER not jan only!!!!
05:06 wannabe1987 ewwwwww burnt banana
05:06 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it's the component > SDI card
05:07 Cprossu yeah we looked that up
05:07 Monkeh|Lap ehhh... Sleeeeeeep..
05:07 Cprossu and I was like "I'll figure out how to make this work!!!! DAMN!"
05:07 Cprossu on the bright side we're now down to $70/interface to take a composite in though
05:07 tonsofpcs egrsteve: 4 Y (G), 5 R-Y (R), 7 B-Y (B).
05:07 tonsofpcs same on all 3 interfaces.
05:08 tonsofpcs Cprossu: how so?
05:08 Cprossu second hand CCU's
05:08 Cprossu (or really shitty upconverters)
05:09 tonsofpcs CCUs are nice.  decent Camera cables generally cost more than CCUs
05:09 Cprossu we may have the cabling part
05:09 Cprossu (may being the operative word)
05:10 Toastdude Cprossu: Nice 501 stack of heatsinks :P
05:10 Cprossu I was going to do 50 in real life, but it would require a lot of work
05:10 tonsofpcs anyway, you'd want to use mini RG59 on those.  Grounds are on pins 3 (4), 6 (5), 8 (7)
05:11 Coderjoe what about the CVBS pins? or Y/C?
05:11 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: huh?
05:12 tonsofpcs pin 1 is composite, pin 2 is its ground.  Could be used for monitoring.
05:12 Coderjoe or does the camera not output composite or the like directly?
05:12 egrsteve we have some nice long VGA cables somewhere which would work if real coax in them for RGB composite + sync
05:13 egrsteve over the 5 coax lines
05:13 tonsofpcs egrsteve: well, if you're doing a bunch, you'd want to just buy the cable.
05:13 tonsofpcs and i'd bet that it's sync on Y.
05:13 egrsteve no genlock
05:13 tonsofpcs you just need to feed genlock in.
05:14 tonsofpcs so 4 strands of coax, a fifth if you want composite too.
05:14 egrsteve use VGA cable with breakouts on it
05:14 egrsteve exactly
05:14 Coderjoe none of the stations have servicing manuals?
05:14 egrsteve it's cable we have and maybe able to be reperposed
05:14 Coderjoe (which might have pinouts)
05:14 egrsteve with some hd-15 connectors
05:15 tonsofpcs then you want a dry pair for tally and another pair (plus ground) for intercom
05:15 wannabe-zz night Toastdude, lwq1996, Cprossu, etc
05:15 Toastdude Night Kelly :(
05:15 egrsteve idk if they have manuals they would part with
05:15 Cprossu egrsteve didn't we also have some cut CCU cable ends somewhere?
05:15 wannabe-zz i'll be on tomorrow!!!!!
05:15 wannabe-zz before and after work :D
05:15 lwq1996 its now the 27 :D
05:15 lwq1996 night wannabe
05:16 tonsofpcs it's now nap time
05:16 tonsofpcs g'nite
05:16 wannabe-zz happy birthday, lwq1996!!!!!!
05:16 masterofmonks Damn Promethus looks good.
05:16 Cprossu night
05:16 Toastdude Happy Birthday Lee!
05:16 egrsteve we might, we have some 26 pin, one triax and a few short 14s I think
05:16 masterofmonks It's lwq1996's birthday?
05:16 egrsteve I don't know if any are cut
05:16 wannabe-zz yes!  it is!
05:16 wannabe-zz he's 15!!!!!
05:17 lwq1996 yes masterofmonks my birthday is the 27
05:17 Cprossu I remember where I saw the cut ends, it was on that cart in robotics on my first visit with all the other kludge engineering
05:17 Cprossu can't remember if it was 26 pin or not
05:18 masterofmonks Well happy birthday lwq1996.
05:18 egrsteve i don't think so
05:18 tonsofpcs Cprossu: 1.5" dia or 2.5" dia?
05:18 lwq1996 wow my fb notifications is being bombed
05:18 egrsteve i think all the ccu cables were in the gallery
05:18 wannabe-zz :D
05:18 Cprossu I'm thinking 1.5"
05:18 wannabe-zz i didn't do it
05:18 tonsofpcs 14pin
05:18 tonsofpcs bayonet?
05:18 Cprossu egrsteve it wsn't a full cable.
05:18 Cprossu yes
05:18 egrsteve ok
05:18 egrsteve maybe then
05:19 tonsofpcs yea, 14-pin most likely.
05:19 egrsteve stuff has been moved a lot
05:19 Cprossu yeah I am aware rofl
05:19 Cprossu most of the stuff leftover in robotics is now near the pendulum staircase in the corner
05:19 Cprossu or it was on my 2nd visit anyway
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05:20 Cprossu including the famed dubner 20-k
05:20 Cprossu too bad he can't help us out though
05:20 Cprossu (damn you GVG!)
05:20 wannabe-zz one question, lwq1996, who the fuck is lee clean?
05:21 tonsofpcs say lee queen fast?
05:21 wannabe-zz i'm guessing....but idk
05:21 tonsofpcs lol @ this guy: "Beware before purchasing CCUs that some produce faint diagonal lines. There is some difficulty in getting them to produce a proper signal. Just sayin.
05:21 tonsofpcs "
05:22 tonsofpcs << GROUND LOOP.  just sayin' ;)
05:22 Cprossu hahaha
05:22 Coderjoe ground loops. so fun.
05:22 astro73|alice yo!
05:22 lwq1996 wannabe its a nickname i got when i was in band one day -.-
05:22 astro73|alice we need players for Board Game Online
05:23 tonsofpcs what game?
05:23 Cprossu Don't be buyin' CCU's if you ain't got the ...damn I can't thinl of anything witty that rhymes with CCU.
05:23 wannabe-zz good nickname or a bad nickname?
05:23 astro73|alice http://www.boardgame-online.com/g/game.php?g=uql
05:23 wannabe-zz hi astro
05:23 BotSteve Title: Board Game Online
05:23 lwq1996 eh annoying
05:23 Cprossu oh god @ astro73|alice
05:23 Cprossu me and a few buddies played that a month ago
05:23 tonsofpcs meh
05:24 astro73|alice it's me, my brother, and a friend of ours
05:24 tonsofpcs some of us have work in 7 hours.
05:24 egrsteve you would thing with a ccu a ground loop would be less likely due to easier single point grounding
05:24 Coderjoe but between the ccu and the display device connected to the ccu output?
05:24 tonsofpcs egrsteve: well, with a custom cable you don't have that giant ass grounded shield around everything
05:25 tonsofpcs also, he probably had his video toaster NT system (that's what the forum is for) isolated and not grounded to a system ground.
05:25 Coderjoe greh. I think I am going to go to bed
05:26 Coderjoe already yawning a lot
05:26 tonsofpcs probably easily solved by running a 16 AWG copper wire between a PC case screw and a rack screw
05:26 egrsteve probably
05:26 tonsofpcs (assuming stuff is even racked)
05:26 egrsteve yes I know a custom cable would not have an overall shield
05:27 egrsteve as long as the mini rg-59 is good it should be ok every where but hvl
05:27 egrsteve i was more thinking short run studio stuff
05:27 tonsofpcs HVL you need a special solution anyway.
05:27 egrsteve i know
05:27 egrsteve HVL is a special place
05:28 egrsteve although the balun has helped with interferance from gemnini
05:28 Coderjoe I was actually a bit concerned with the security camera runs in the hvl when i was watching video of them being strung
05:28 egrsteve as am I a pit
05:28 egrsteve *a bit
05:28 Cprossu also the cinderblock helped too
05:28 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: you mean the antennas?
05:28 wannabe-zz .in 10.5hours back up netbook
05:28 BotSteve wannabe-zz: Okay, will remind at 15:58Z
05:28 wannabe-zz damn thing wont go on charge :/
05:28 Cprossu speaking of which is paul kidwell on premises?
05:29 lwq1996 wannabe you cookies are still good :P
05:29 egrsteve will be the end of the week
05:29 Coderjoe at 1229?
05:29 wannabe-zz good\
05:29 Coderjoe er
05:29 Coderjoe 0029
05:29 Coderjoe brain malfunction
05:29 egrsteve night all
05:29 Coderjoe sign of required sleep
05:29 lwq1996 what the hell is mr.stacey being up at 1:30!!!!!
05:30 astro73|alice excuse me, the link is http://www.boardgame-online.com/g/game.php?g=uqJ
05:30 Cprossu egrsteve pm before bed
05:30 Cprossu * egrsteve|away
05:30 BotSteve Title: Board Game Online
05:30 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: anyhow, I'd make sure that those camera runs are at least grounded at each end of HVL (camera and door/entry) if not isolated...
05:30 * tonsofpcs goes to sleep, you know all this stuff anyway
05:30 lwq1996 lol
05:32 tonsofpcs not you, lee, you still need to be learned
05:32 * tonsofpcs slaps lee's wrists with a ruler and throws down a 50000 page book
05:32 lwq1996 taught not learned
05:32 lwq1996 how can you learn me?
05:34 lwq1996 awe wannabe-zz's m&m cookies are done :(
05:34 wannabe-zz awwww poor lee....at least you had cookies!
05:34 wannabe-zz i dont ahve any
05:34 wannabe-zz plus my computer won't charge.
05:34 wannabe-zz at all
05:34 lwq1996 i still have the sugar cookies :P
05:35 lwq1996 it may be the cord
05:35 lwq1996 mine needs fidgited around before it works
05:35 wannabe-zz its always been the port
05:35 wannabe-zz i know....
05:35 wannabe-zz but its taking pressure HOLDING IT IN to charge now and i don't have that kind of time
05:35 wannabe-zz i know my computer
05:36 lwq1996 duct take time :P
05:36 wannabe-zz if i had any, yeah, but that doesn't work either because i'd be taping my keys down
05:36 wannabe-zz and thats stupid
05:36 lwq1996 lol
05:36 lwq1996 do you have a dell?
05:37 wannabe-zz no, its a toshiba....my dell is wonderful, except its 5-6 years old and big and bulky
05:37 lwq1996 my dell sucks
05:37 lwq1996 i love my toshiba though
05:37 lwq1996 mines the other way around
05:37 wannabe-zz i never said i ddin't love my toshiba.
05:37 lwq1996 the dell sucks and my toshiba is 5-6 years old and is big and bulky
05:37 wannabe-zz its just giving me hell now
05:38 lwq1996 lol
05:38 wannabe-zz and i want to GO TO BED
05:38 wannabe-zz but i CAN"T
05:38 lwq1996 sorry
05:38 wannabe-zz because COMPUTER ISSUES
05:38 wannabe-zz omg
05:38 wannabe-zz at least i start work tomorrwo (today) right?!
05:38 wannabe-zz is it possible to replace the power  port thingy on a netbook?
05:38 wannabe-zz i blame my dad, btw
05:39 wannabe-zz it was his computer first
05:39 lwq1996 lol
05:40 lwq1996 and i dont think it can be replaced
05:40 wannabe-zz anything can be replaced, for a fee
05:40 wannabe-zz my computer was charging just find this afternoon before someone knocked it over....
05:42 lwq1996 lol who was it
05:42 wannabe-zz dad
05:42 wannabe-zz i blame my dad, btw
05:42 wannabe-zz see?
05:42 lwq1996 lol
05:42 wannabe-zz doesn't know how to treat commputers....
05:43 lwq1996 eh what evs you got another one
05:43 wannabe-zz yes, well, i'm partial to how light and easy this one is to carry around............
05:43 wannabe-zz and how its finally tweaked to how i like/want it...
05:46 wannabe-zz 'm going to bed now
05:46 wannabe-zz night!
05:46 wannabe-zz computer will be on the opposite side of the room
05:47 Toastdude Night
05:47 Toastdude .seen BatSteve
05:47 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw BatSteve 95.22 hours ago at 2011-12-23 06:34:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:47:31 UTC
05:47 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw Bat-Mobile 150.47 hours ago at 2011-12-20 23:19:33 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
05:47 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw Bot-Mobile 151.24 hours ago at 2011-12-20 22:33:21 UTC on #tgg-bots.
05:47 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw BatSteve-Away 240.51 hours ago at 2011-12-17 05:16:48 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
05:47 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
05:47 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw Farts-Mobile 383.84 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:57:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
05:47 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
05:48 wannabe-zz wait
05:48 wannabe-zz if the cord is plugged into the wall, but no currant runs to the computer, shouldn't the battery pack be warmish?
05:49 wannabe-zz hello?
05:50 wannabe-zz power strip works cuz the dell is plugged into it and its on ac power
05:52 wannabe-zz evveryone musta gone to bed
05:52 wannabe-zz i'll cya'll in the am
05:52 wannabe-zz fuck computers
05:55 Kaytee http://www.livestream.com/kafkaisacat JACKIIIIIIIIE
05:56 BotSteve Title: Franz Blitzbeine - live streaming video powered by Livestream
05:58 lwq1996 .video
05:58 lwq1996 dmnit
05:59 Toastdude ..
06:12 egrsteve|away http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup
06:13 exor674 is it just me or is the lot that 6 is facing lit a wee bit too much?
06:13 exor674 it looks like daytime out there *G*
06:19 Sgt_Lemming sigh, all my LAN'ers piked
06:19 Sgt_Lemming oh well, 24 hour lan isn't too bad
06:19 Sgt_Lemming I was hoping for at least 48
06:32 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | The name's Bond...Ionic Bond.  Taken, not shared. | Word of the day: macromastic
06:32 masterofmonks Just for you lwq1996
06:34 lwq1996 lol
06:34 lwq1996 google all the way
06:46 masterofmonks lwq1996: Now you have to work that into a sentence.
06:46 masterofmonks But it has to be in a ligitimate conversation.
06:47 lwq1996 ok tomorrow though
06:47 lwq1996 im too tired tonight
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07:01 NeWtoz It's almost January and it's raining
07:05 lwq1996 its december and it hasnt snowed in pennsylvania where the snow stuck on the ground
07:19 masterofmonks lwq1996: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pzGKW4ZQ2Y&amp;ob=av2e
07:19 BotSteve Title: Lordi - It Snows In Hell - YouTube
08:02 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 12-26-11 Cables, Cameras, and Cleaners http://youtu.be/V4o04KJq3vo
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08:27 Electricguy morning!
08:28 * masterofmonks watches the zombies shuffle across the channel.
08:31 wannabe-zz i''ve been coughing for the last hour or so STRAIGHT
08:32 wannabe-zz my body hurts
08:32 Electricguy ouch!
08:32 masterofmonks Ugh, you must have that christmas pandemic I cought about a week ago.
08:36 wannabe-zz all its doing (it feels like) is scarring my esophogus............
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08:39 wannabe-zz i took some robitussin cough suppressant liquid stuff.....now trying to go back to sleep.  i'm more exhausted NOW than i was around 12:45am when i went to "sleep" :/
08:39 Ponko lol it always happens
08:40 wannabe-zz and the netbook is shutting down cuz its dead and won't charge.  bye
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08:42 wannabe-zz night
08:42 masterofmonks Night wannabe-zz
08:48 lwq1996 night any and all who is awake yet
08:49 masterofmonks Night lwq1996
08:49 masterofmonks Grats on 15.
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09:01 angy Hello all
09:02 masterofmonks Morning angy
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09:12 Ponko-iPad Stupid laptop
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09:38 sndwrx blargh.
09:38 sndwrx Bad, bad dream.
09:50 Ponko oh?
09:52 NeWtoz Must of been the one with the butterflies
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11:33 * Experimentonomen doodled up a circuit for short circuit and dc protection for amplifiers and speakers http://i.imgur.com/oQGvD.png
11:34 * Ponko wishes he could take a gander but his laptop is SERIOUSLY lagging
11:35 Experimentonomen a reboot usually clears lagging issues
11:35 Experimentonomen :P
11:35 Ponko already did that ;)
11:36 Experimentonomen if nothing else helps, format the hdd and reinstall the os from scratch
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11:42 Ponko that'll be fun
11:46 Seroster Blurk
11:47 Ponko you alright Seroster?
11:47 Seroster mhm
11:47 Ponko good
11:53 Experimentonomen *yawn*
12:06 NeWtoz could try linux ;P
12:06 NeWtoz I could help you
12:07 NeWtoz anything for a packers fan
12:09 Ponko o_O
12:09 * Ponko turns in to General Ahkbar
12:10 Ponko IT'S A TRAP!!
12:10 dr_jkl o.o
12:19 Ponko anyway it's not to bad right now
12:20 Ponko i'm just very impatient
12:21 Ponko well well well NeWtoz a NEW passing yards in a season record
12:21 Ponko and it will grow because the season ends next week
12:22 * Ponko is gonna make some bacon
12:30 Ponko that's most...... disturbing.
12:55 yNos hiya all
12:55 * NeWtoz hands yNos a tribble
12:56 SparkyProjects Hi yNos, how's the snow ?
12:56 NeWtoz snow doesn't exist in MI
12:56 yNos The snow is wet
12:57 yNos when i left home, it was raining
12:58 yNos when i got down here, the flakes are fatter and wet.
12:59 SparkyProjects They look a bit large on the camera
12:59 yNos fatter flakes happen when the temp is really close to freezing
12:59 yNos that goes with driving too
13:02 yNos people see snowflakes and are like *OMG - ITS LITTLE ICE COMING FROM THE SKY!!!!111!!!*
13:06 Electricguy want one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b60OZhrTB6o
13:06 BotSteve Title: Chinese Military Shovel WJQ-308 (HQ + Full length) - YouTube
13:12 Experimentonomen *yawn*
13:15 * Experimentonomen = bored
13:28 * Experimentonomen is almost considering packing up and going home
13:28 Experimentonomen this place is mostly dead anyways
13:28 tonsofpcs yup
13:28 * tonsofpcs throws some graupel at yNos
13:34 eg_lappy me tinkering around some more with cameras and radioactivity www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
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13:39 mashpriborintorg .seen angy
13:39 BotSteve mashpriborintorg: I last saw angy 4.64 hours ago at 2011-12-27 09:01:34 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 13:39:53 UTC
13:40 mashpriborintorg .seen captainboden
13:40 BotSteve mashpriborintorg: I last saw CaptainBoden 231.03 hours ago at 2011-12-17 22:38:46 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 13:40:32 UTC
13:42 yNos meh
13:43 yNos just got out of a 3 person status meeting
13:43 yNos 9 groups, 3 people.
13:43 yNos status is! STATUS QUO!
13:44 mashpriborintorg hiya, I received a Christmas postcard from TGG, thanks
13:45 mashpriborintorg not sure who did it exactly tho
13:45 yNos I will pass that on to Moose
13:45 mashpriborintorg ok thanks
13:45 yNos if it is girly handwriting, it is moose, if it is really girly handwriting, it is chris.
13:45 mashpriborintorg lol
13:46 SparkyProjects yNos, i just watched the minecraft version of TGG, the tool room should totally be 'The Batcave' :D
13:46 yNos :D
13:47 SparkyProjects btw, did you see the Welsh flag ?
13:47 yNos Batman has a sign that goes up and down claiming it.
13:47 yNos Yup :D
13:50 NeWtoz I need to get a Grand Rapids flag
13:52 mashpriborintorg shit, I may have a fried NAS at work, cannot ping it anymore, and as it is in a remote site, nobody available to have a look a it for now
13:54 mashpriborintorg I hope it will just be a power off or a network cable issue, but as the thing was installed back in 2007 I wouldn't be surprized if it's dead
14:02 yNos NeWtoz - isnt it the bloody sabertoothed pacman?
14:03 SparkyProjects Apparently so http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-migrpl.gif
14:04 SparkyProjects That's ugly :P
14:17 Electricguy "If the tool you have is a hammer, make the problem look like a nail"
14:43 NeWtoz yNos, I've never heard of it quite put that way, but yes
14:47 Electricguy a little video of my latest little hack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgaSs-QP3SU
14:47 BotSteve Title: Radioactive radiation shown with modified CCD camera - YouTube
15:19 yNos NeWtoz: http://michiganamericashighfive.com/
15:19 BotSteve Title: MICHIGAN: America's High Five
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15:46 wannabe-zz it.is.snowing.
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15:56 wannabe1987 wn
15:56 wannabe1987 wb*
15:56 wannabe1987 different keyboard
15:57 wannabe1987 i had to switch computers cuz the netbook died
15:58 BotSteve wannabe-zz: back up netbook
15:58 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve, i did it already
15:58 BotSteve Happy to help, wannabe1987
16:09 masterofmonks Who is awake?
16:09 CaptainNiobe me... i never sleep :P
16:10 wannabe1987 lol
16:10 wannabe1987 i woke up!
16:10 wannabe1987 i actually slept after taking the meds
16:10 masterofmonks That's good.
16:10 wannabe1987 instead of just hacking
16:10 wannabe1987 yes!
16:16 yNos any redhat users in here?
16:16 masterofmonks Not in many years yNos
16:17 yNos i had to reboot a vm, on reboot fsck flaked out.
16:18 yNos had to reboot from a boot disk and fix the filesystems. thats done.. now it hangs after initing the /etc/fstab swaps...
16:19 yNos "Enabling /etc/fstab swaps[ok]" newline - nothing...
16:20 masterofmonks That sounds familiar....
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16:36 wannabe1987 i have a question
16:36 wannabe1987 if a cord is plugged into a computer but not making a complete circuit, will the battery pack still stay warm?
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16:36 wannabe1987 hi Satelitko
16:37 astro73|alice wannabe1987: shouldn't, except that the laptop using it could make it warm
16:37 wannabe1987 well, the laptop never actually charged, there were no connections made, i think somethings broken (i know somethings broken)
16:37 wannabe1987 my netbook is currently unusable as it won't charge
16:37 Satelitko Ever logged in a chat without the slightest idea as to why? :D
16:38 wannabe1987 Satelitko: yes.
16:38 wannabe1987 welcome to the geek group anyway :D
16:38 mashpriborintorg you overtwisted the power cord ?
16:38 wannabe1987 overtwisted?
16:39 mashpriborintorg well, abused it after many and many cycles of use
16:39 wannabe1987 well, probably...i really only charged it when it was low, as i was supposed to ...
16:40 mashpriborintorg the fragile thing is the dc cord out of the charger, most the time
16:40 Satelitko Are there other live streams? Like the weather cam and whatnot? Or do they just rotate the cameras?
16:40 wannabe1987 they just rotate cameras
16:40 mashpriborintorg rolling it too tight around the power pack will damage it quickly
16:41 wannabe1987 i never rolled it around the power pack
16:41 mashpriborintorg for now, only this stream with either security cam, weather cam, boring cam
16:41 mashpriborintorg and sometimes, awesome cam
16:42 mashpriborintorg it can die by itself tho, got a multimeter to test the charger output ?
16:42 Satelitko I like the police scanner. Can't wait for them to setup individual streams for labs/radio/etc.
16:43 mashpriborintorg they are missing baluns to connect the cameras over Cat5 cables, lots of baluns
16:43 Satelitko btw - isn't it illegal to monitor police radio? 'least that's what I've heard.
16:43 wannabe1987 no, i don't have a multimeter, and no time to run to GR to have them at the lab use one before i go on vaca
16:44 mashpriborintorg a cheapo 5 or 10 dollars multimeter is handy for such things
16:45 wannabe1987 yes, i realize.  once i start making acutal money, things will be bought.  but until then, they cannot be bought
16:49 wannabe1987 my uncle has a multimeter (i'd be surprised if he didn't) but he's up in rockford and thats further away than GR.
16:49 wannabe1987 youtube is acting strange
16:49 mashpriborintorg The car on the parking lot is Liz one Satelitko, when Chris will arrive he will park inside the lab, because he's the boss
16:49 mashpriborintorg it would cost you more petrol than the price of a multimeter then :p
16:50 wannabe1987 mhm
16:52 mashpriborintorg last time I got a correct multimeter, I detroyed it... while trying to measure static electricity on an office chair :p
16:52 wannabe1987 ...
16:52 masterofmonks Hey guys think we can give this kid some encouragement? He does some pretty good videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aecQJN9n3Fc
16:52 BotSteve Title: Important!!!!!!! Must WATCH - YouTube
16:53 wannabe1987 This video confuses me, but the rest of his vids are good
16:53 mashpriborintorg so for now I only use cheap ones, I'll get a good  second hand desktop multimeter some day, not real need for it right now
16:54 mashpriborintorg Nurdrage has good chemistry video too, but it's not my main area of interest
16:54 wannabe1987 just like it and comment please
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17:01 * wannabe1987 has hour and half before she has to be at work
17:02 mashpriborintorg and which kind of work wannabe1987 ?
17:02 wannabe1987 working in a nusring home,
17:04 wannabe1987 mashpriborintorg, do they have nursing homes (where the older adults go to live under the care of nurses) in france?
17:07 mashpriborintorg yes of course
17:07 wannabe1987 so last night i was having a conversation with a housemate on her status on facebook and i walked out of my room and talked to her IRL and she got scared cuz she forgot i was home :facepalm:
17:07 wannabe1987 o ok.  thats what i work in.
17:07 wannabe1987 my other job is taking care of people inside their houses
17:08 mashpriborintorg and the monthly fee is sometimes incredible in privates structures, it can be 4000 euros or so
17:08 wannabe1987 mhm
17:09 mashpriborintorg state homes are more affordable
17:10 wannabe1987 i used to work in a private home, it was 3000USD/month for just room and board.
17:12 mashpriborintorg they suck all the money from these people
17:13 wannabe1987 mhm
17:18 Ponko damn i can remember a nap being soo good
17:18 Ponko can't*
17:18 Satelitko Well... off to get caught up on captain's blogs. Cheers! :D
17:18 mashpriborintorg great !
17:24 Electricguy HAHAHAH XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3GJycgu-cs
17:24 BotSteve Title: Kitten gets thrown down a loft ladder! - YouTube
17:24 Electricguy mean cat buddy is mean.. XD
17:25 Electricguy yes, it's a cat pushing the other down the ladder
17:27 wannabe1987 mrow!
17:28 Electricguy :P
17:29 wannabe1987 BotSteve, will the roads be slickery?
17:29 BotSteve Oh yeah!
17:29 wannabe1987 so should i take 2x as long to get to work?
17:35 Ponko yes
17:37 wannabe1987 ok
17:37 wannabe1987 means i should go put my scrubs on
17:39 wannabe1987 there....that was difficult
17:47 Ponko what's your job a nurse?
17:48 yNos I guess i feel safe that the biscuits i got from the bosnian place has an ROHS symbol on their packaging.
17:48 wannabe1987 i'm a cna, certified nursing assistant....
17:48 yNos i def dont want the ones w/o the ROHS symbol
17:48 wannabe1987 an RN needs 4 years of schooling plus a state test.
17:48 wannabe1987 i had 75 hrs of schooling and a state test
17:48 wannabe1987 not quite as smart
17:49 wannabe1987 but we're all a team :D
17:49 masterofmonks Educated
17:49 wannabe1987 that too
17:49 wannabe1987 i will be a RN eventually
17:50 mashpriborintorg lol yNos, at least it is not some chinese soda with anci-ice chemicals  in it
17:50 yNos wha?
17:50 yNos anti-icing chems?
17:50 yNos the co2 doesnt do that?
17:51 mashpriborintorg ethylen glycol and other crap
17:51 JA12 nah, anti-icing works as a sweetener too. it's good for ya ;)
17:51 yNos prop-glyco, or ethyl?
17:52 mashpriborintorg yeah, seems it is a common thing in chinese food industry
17:52 mashpriborintorg one day, I bough instant noodles in a chinese grocery
17:52 Ponko RN being Registered Nurse wannabe1987
17:52 mashpriborintorg omg they were not good
17:53 mashpriborintorg smell and taste of motor oil and petrol
17:53 wannabe1987 yessir, Ponko
17:53 Ponko :)
17:53 wannabe1987 now, figure out what PNP is :P
17:54 Ponko wait that means something else i think
17:55 wannabe1987 it is a nursing accronym....my sister is going for it eventually
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17:56 yNos practical nurse praticionr...
17:56 wannabe1987 close
17:56 yNos what is the first p?
17:56 wannabe1987 last two words are correct, first isn't
17:56 wannabe1987 pediatric :D
17:56 yNos ahh
17:57 wannabe1987 only two uni's in mi offer that program...
17:57 wannabe1987 UoM and one other....
17:57 wannabe1987 but sister dearest is looking at UoM
17:58 Ponko i'm trying to think of the other PNP
17:59 wannabe1987 holy crap it worked!
18:00 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=L_W-IXqoxHA#t=351s  start watching at about here, and do the trick he shows
18:00 BotSteve Title: Why we have blind spots - and how to see the blood vessels inside your own eye! - YouTube
18:04 wannabe1987 .tfw 49426
18:04 BotSteve 34°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Hudsonville, MI!  'Actually, a sharp-stick in the eye might not all be that bad right now.'
18:04 wannabe1987 .weather hudsonville mi
18:04 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 33.8℉ (1℃), 29.48in (995mb), Mist, Light breeze 5kt (↑) - KGRR, 17:53Z
18:04 wannabe1987 mist?
18:10 wannabe1987 wayyyy too many people like my status....:P
18:10 wannabe1987 all it says is "is wearing scrubs!"
18:17 angy .cookie wannabe1987
18:17 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you an almond cookie!
18:17 angy .cookie yNos
18:17 BotSteve Here you go, yNos, I baked you a M&M's cookie!
18:17 wannabe1987 its an angy!!!
18:18 wannabe1987 merry christmas, angy
18:18 angy you too, and happy new year quite in advance
18:18 wannabe1987 yes, thank you
18:18 wannabe1987 you too
18:18 wannabe1987 i'm starting my "new" year today....or, new season in life - i'm working!
18:18 angy :)
18:18 mashpriborintorg angy, I was thinking about sending a french flag, can you confirm you have not done it yet
18:19 angy I did not do that :)
18:19 angy I'm going to be yet again a student for quite a fe years
18:20 angy I still have to send my christmas gift to Moose & Chris
18:21 wannabe1987 i'll be a student sometime too, maybe next fall
18:21 mashpriborintorg ok, I will get a flag, is 100*150 cm the correct size you think ?
18:21 angy It's a fair size
18:21 wannabe1987 3x5 feet i think is the size
18:21 angy I'm becoming Dr Angy
18:21 mashpriborintorg great :d
18:22 wannabe1987 doctor?
18:22 angy PhD
18:22 wannabe1987 i will be come nurse kelly....eventaully
18:22 wannabe1987 yes, i know
18:22 angy Great!
18:22 wannabe1987 you couldn't hear the inflection...i said it like the chick from little shop of horrors says it
18:22 mashpriborintorg .c 3 inch in meter
18:22 BotSteve 0.0762 meters
18:22 mashpriborintorg .c 3 feet in meter
18:22 BotSteve 0.9144 meters
18:24 angy I'm living medical for now, going back in heavy industries
18:24 wannabe1987 damnit janet
18:24 wannabe1987 i don't have a lunch bag
18:25 mashpriborintorg flag prdere
18:25 mashpriborintorg *ordered
18:26 wannabe-afk OFF TO WORK !
18:26 wannabe-afk ...
18:27 angy Bye!
18:27 angy Have a nice afternoon at work
18:28 mashpriborintorg the latest Captains blog is pretty awesome, all these cameras they have
18:28 angy sadly I don't have time anymore to watch them
18:29 mashpriborintorg finding old broadcast cameras at a fair price is a pita here
18:31 ajprog_laptop angy: you going to school again? have you decide where yet?
18:31 angy Paris, going back to France
18:31 mashpriborintorg too bad, the blogs are a relax time, usually i watch them while having dinner or breakfast
18:31 angy I nearly had something in Chicago, but that failed
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18:35 Ponko hmm who's the best Defenseman in the NHL today
18:35 * yNos still has RedHatRage...
18:36 angy ajprog_laptop: I'll be in Paris for the next few years, I nearly had something in Chicago, but it failed :(
18:36 yNos hiya angy
18:36 angy hello yNos
18:36 angy you tried to update to last RHEL?
18:36 Ponko Nicklos Lidstrom?
18:36 angy I tried, it failed :o
18:36 Ponko well hello angy long bloody time mate *hugs & pats back*
18:36 ajprog_laptop yNos: you coming into the lab today?
18:36 angy Hello P'ky!
18:37 angy How's lovely Brit and UK?
18:37 ajprog_laptop angy: I need information on the ip cam you were working on
18:38 Ponko it's alright i guess how's things your end
18:38 angy Sure, I may have my test script somewhere, I needed some voodoo that I did not really had time to use
18:38 yNos angy - i am having an issue - the vm needed to be rebooted, it came up saying it needed to fsck... ok.. virtual disk on a virtual computer.. shutdown nicely.. ok.. maybe it has a timer on it.. fsck cant find master inode...
18:38 angy Fogy :)
18:38 yNos and now that i have mounted the failed filesystems ro, backed them up, mkfs'd them..
18:38 angy yNos: VMWare?
18:38 yNos restored.
18:38 yNos yes
18:39 Ponko oh joy lol
18:39 yNos it goes through normal startup, but hangs right after Enabling /etc/fstab swaps  [ok]
18:39 angy may you have had a VMWare update between install and reboot of that VM?
18:40 yNos i bet so.
18:40 yNos well
18:40 angy a few months ago, there was a buggy update that tend to crash virtual drives
18:40 yNos between the last reboot and the first today
18:40 angy more precisely, between last VMWare tools update and today's reboot
18:41 Ponko i actually think Lidstrom IS the best Defenseman in the NHL today
18:41 Ponko and that's a compliment to every hockey fan on here in tgg area
18:41 angy I prefer playing hockey more than watching it ;)
18:41 Ponko lol
18:43 angy ajprog_laptop: which webcam was that?
18:47 yNos ajprog_laptop: No, i am not sure i will get to leave work at this rate.
19:12 Ponko still shocked at that theft
19:12 angy joined #thegeekgroup
19:13 ajprog_laptop angy: the pan-tilt that has the broken wifi
19:14 angy Yeah, I have some new ideas for that one, if it's connected on the network, I can remote access into the computer I tried to script :)
19:14 mashpriborintorg and the poor Christina does all the cleaning work
19:15 ajprog_laptop the network is all changed I don't know if it will work anymore, how do I set it up?
19:15 mashpriborintorg (she's collecting garbage on the parking lot right now)
19:15 angy Connect it on a computer, then use the software installed on the Dell laptop I used to find its IP
19:33 angy joined #thegeekgroup
19:34 mashpriborintorg wtf http://www.tgdaily.com/space-features/60426-online-volunteers-could-help-find-alien-artifacts-on-the-moon
19:34 BotSteve Title: Online volunteers could help find alien artifacts on the moon | TG Daily
19:35 mashpriborintorg so all the things they say it these youtube videos are true, after all ? XD
19:38 mashpriborintorg so where are these hi-res photos to look at ? and what about a detailled map of all man-made objets landed or crashed of Moon, to avoid any confusion ?
19:38 ajprog_laptop angy: that laptop has disappeared. what software is that
19:39 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
19:39 injektion I had a lucky day lol
19:39 uijoti joined #thegeekgroup
19:39 injektion I found an Apple CD 300e Plus today :)
19:41 injektion I finally have a CD drive that can be used with the Emax II, Octane and that SS20
19:42 mashpriborintorg you have an Octane ? great
19:43 mashpriborintorg not the king of stuff you can get at the sunday morning fleamarket
19:43 mashpriborintorg *kind
19:46 mashpriborintorg some stuff here btw http://www.lpi.usra.edu/lunar/lunar_images/
19:46 BotSteve Title: Lunar Images
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19:59 mashpriborintorg going to sleep, bye
20:21 Toastdude Hello
20:26 Ponko toasty
20:30 Toastdude Ponky
20:31 Ponko alright mate
20:32 Toastdude How are you?
20:32 Ponko i'm good
20:33 Ponko yourself
20:35 Toastdude I'm good
20:40 Ponko goodo
20:41 * Toastdude can see his blood vessels in his eye
20:48 Electricguy the swedish air force having fun in the winter http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNRt0PehiYQ&amp;feature=relmfu
20:48 BotSteve Title: Crazy Fighter Jet Sledding by Swedish Air Force - YouTube
20:50 Seroster Fags.
20:53 Ponko Seroster: you ever heard of Nicklas Lidstrom?
20:53 Seroster I fucked him.
20:53 Ponko bet you did
20:53 Electricguy after he assraped you?
20:53 Ponko lol
20:54 Ponko don't cus Nick on here he's a Detroit Red Wing
20:54 Seroster If its volountary it aint rape mate
20:55 Ponko hey Seroster wanna play a game called rape?
20:55 Seroster Nsfw man =)
20:55 Ponko well answer
20:55 Ponko it's just a joke thing
20:55 Electricguy naaah, just get a mistress with a 40 inch strapon...
20:56 Ponko lol
20:56 Seroster ....Dudes. Let's discuss the sexual orientation of the swedish military and/or my involvement with ponko in another room, shall we?
20:56 JA12 :)
20:57 Ponko rotten Seroster
20:57 Electricguy naah :P no need to, i'll stop now :)
20:57 Electricguy but i really wonder who started it all by calling the swedish air force fags
20:58 Seroster ... That is not namecalling, it's a statement of fag.. Err.. fact.
20:59 angy joined #thegeekgroup
21:00 angy damn, I missed jeff!
21:00 angy oh, no, I can't read :p
21:00 angy ajprog_laptop: I'm going to fetch again the software and email it to you
21:00 angy hello injektion
21:00 injektion Hey angy :)
21:00 Electricguy i'm gonna buy a USB video grabber tomorrow :P
21:01 * angy fondles Seroster
21:01 Seroster HEY angy !
21:01 * Seroster refondles angy and points to #TGG:NSFW
21:01 Electricguy to use my slightly modded CCD camera as macro photo cam, regular camera and a very geeky webcam :P
21:02 Electricguy the camera is the type of security camera you could find in shops about 15 years ago! :P
21:02 Electricguy with auto iris and stuff
21:02 Seroster I got a new txt recieve signal...
21:03 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HKhKpWx1Uc
21:03 BotSteve Title: The Red Queen - You're All Going To Die Down Here - YouTube
21:03 Seroster It freaks out my gf.
21:03 Electricguy geek humor http://www.damnlol.com/i/7030602fc43e531b2bcbb132edf4a4b5.jpg
21:04 Toastdude ANGY
21:04 angy Toastè
21:04 * angy hugs Toastdude
21:04 Toastdude :D
21:04 * Toastdude hugs angy
21:04 astro73|alice hello geeks
21:04 Electricguy greetings
21:12 Ponko Electricguy: you a Red Wing?
21:12 Electricguy nah, don't even know what it is
21:15 Ponko Detriot Red Wings a NHL team
21:15 Ponko tggs team
21:21 Seroster SPARKYPROJECTS
21:21 Seroster Where were you born?
21:21 Ponko SparkyProjects1 ^
21:21 * Seroster stabs Ponko
21:23 SparkyProjects1 Wassup Ponko ?
21:23 SparkyProjects1 http://g.co/maps/7c76t
21:23 BotSteve Title: chatham kent - Google Maps
21:23 Ponko blimey
21:23 Ponko was guiding you to Sero's question is all and you answered thank you sir
21:24 SparkyProjects1 At the age of 2 i moved to http://g.co/maps/k4v5z
21:24 BotSteve Title: didcot oxfordshire - Google Maps
21:25 Ponko i know didcot
21:25 Ponko went through there to go Swindon
21:25 Ponko or i think it was Didcot
21:25 SparkyProjects1 As for accent, decide for yoursself from my vids :P
21:26 Ponko well if you sound like Wurzel i'll say Jon Pertwee with straw
21:26 SparkyProjects1 Ponko, if you went from London to Swindon, you would have gone through Didcot, it's a major junction
21:27 Ponko yeah
21:27 Ponko brushed passed Chatham to go Sheppy
21:28 SparkyProjects1 I would guess you wouldn't have missed the power station towers and chimney
21:28 Ponko ok it's not right nest to the A249 but it's neat
21:28 Ponko to where Leysdowne or Swindon?
21:28 SparkyProjects1 At didcot
21:58 tonsofpcs even'n all
21:58 tonsofpcs (kinda)
22:01 tonsofpcs hey, looking for a way to automagically scan a hard disk (or other drive, floppy? cd? dvd? etc) for viruses upon attachment (either pre- or post-mount, I'm not picky).  Anyone know of an existing solution?  (If not, I figure it shouldn't be too hard with hotplugd)
22:01 tonsofpcs (linux)
22:03 angy invoke your scanner with udev on mount
22:04 Andyroo_ joined #thegeekgroup
22:05 Andyroo_ Howdy :)
22:06 Andyroo_ Yay my pen shipped. If someone on site bumps into Moose, please say thank you :D
22:15 Electricguy bedtime for EG now! night night all! :)
22:17 injektion Too bad it's not MS Exchange
22:23 Ponko someone told me (and i KNOW this is bullshit) that apparently Englands away kit was insipred by Arlesey Town, i simply replied "Arlesey inspired England? Arlsey couldn't inspire a bowel movement, that's why most of your players are so full of shit."
22:27 Ponko hmmm
22:29 tonsofpcs *pokes around udev*
22:31 Hackfox D:D:D:D:D:D:
22:31 Hackfox http://imgur.com/gallery/snY0x
22:31 BotSteve Title: Spiderbro - Imgur
22:34 tonsofpcs hmmm
22:38 tonsofpcs not sure where to prod it.
22:38 tonsofpcs I think i'll deal with this tomorrow.
22:51 jeremyr_ joined #thegeekgroup
22:52 jeremyr_ Anyone here?
22:52 SparkyProjects1 yep
22:52 jeremyr_ Hello!
22:53 SparkyProjects1 Hi
22:53 jeremyr_ When are they starting?
22:54 SparkyProjects1 I'm not sure what they are doing, i heard mention of some event happening
22:55 jeremyr_ it's a one year anniversary party
22:55 jeremyr_ "Fun starts and 4pm, main presentation begins at 5pm."
22:55 jeremyr_ https://www.facebook.com/events/341622609184832/
22:55 BotSteve Title: A Year of Awesome | Facebook
22:56 Ponko i was invited but can't make it because the Atlantic blocks my path and i do not have the means for a boat trip or flight
22:56 SparkyProjects1 You should have made a duct tape boat, like Mythbusters :P
22:57 Ponko yeah but didn't that break?
22:57 Ponko or at least leak
22:57 tonsofpcs don't think so.
22:57 SparkyProjects1 Not the sailboat from what i remember
22:57 Ponko hmm
22:58 tonsofpcs ooo
22:58 jeremyr_ I'm stuck behind the pacific ocean :( I don't think a  duct tape boat would work very well...
22:58 Ponko didn't they make a hole whilst in the water
22:58 tonsofpcs maybe I should have taken this week off
22:58 tonsofpcs oh well
22:58 SparkyProjects1 Stat making one, you might get there for next year's celebration :P
22:58 tonsofpcs pacific would be easier.  jet stream and all that jazz.
22:58 Ponko yeah i mind end up in 50ft waves
22:58 tonsofpcs Ponko: duct tape submarine?
22:59 jeremyr_ Ohh @tonsofpcs thats a good idea!
22:59 Ponko hmm idt that would work
22:59 Ponko i'd need oxygen
22:59 tonsofpcs Ponko: there's only 12 ways to find out.
22:59 tonsofpcs bring some with you!
22:59 Ponko that costs money
23:00 Ponko and what are those 12 ways
23:01 tonsofpcs I'm not sure of all of them, just taking a SWAG
23:01 Ponko swag?
23:01 tonsofpcs the first one is obvious: Test it in a fully scientific manner, with control groups and all.
23:01 tonsofpcs Scientific Wild Ass Guess
23:01 Ponko ah right
23:01 Ponko anyway
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23:01 tonsofpcs the second: just build one and try
23:01 lwq-ipod hi
23:01 jeremyr_ Hello
23:01 Ponko yeah that would end badly
23:01 tonsofpcs the third: build one and have someone else try.  fourth: have someone else build one, you try.  fifth: have someone else build one and try for you, etc.....
23:02 Ponko oh no he's here
23:02 tonsofpcs how do you know until you try?!??!
23:02 lwq-ipod wannabe-afk, your cookies are almost gone
23:02 jeremyr_ HEY LOOK CHRIS IS MAKING A CAPTAINS BLOG!
23:03 lwq-ipod lol
23:03 Ponko have your friends build your ramps for you because if you die it's murder and if you build and you die you're an idot
23:03 Ponko idiot*
23:04 lwq-ipod im bored :/
23:05 Seroster ... Well take your ipod and stuff it then
23:07 * lwq-ipod is clueless
23:10 injektion lol
23:11 yNos There is an internet full of things to do, and you are bored. sounds like you lack ambition more than anything else.
23:13 lwq-ipod i need hands on stuff like tearing down a bed and putting one up
23:14 injektion I lack ambition
23:14 lwq-ipod i lack supplys
23:16 lwq-ipod i finally got a desk to work on but nowhere to put it for now
23:17 lwq-ipod i should get out my midi keyboard and computer adapter and fire up mixcraft5
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23:23 Hackfox http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&amp;NR=1&amp;v=gRJaWN4q4W8 :D
23:23 BotSteve Title: Dilbert: Cube Farming: Weed and Cube Farming: Tall Guys - YouTube
23:23 lwq-ipod joined #thegeekgroup
23:24 lwq-ipod damn thing likes to disconnect when not in use
23:27 Ponko good old dilbert
23:38 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
23:38 BotSteve TOASTY!
23:40 Toastdude Hi
23:41 Andyroo_ Dizzy watching the feed, but fun to see more than Leonard Street :D
23:41 Andyroo_ Ooh, there goes Gibroni :)
23:42 Toastdude What are they doing?
23:42 masterofmonks Morning Toastdude
23:43 Toastdude Hello masterofmonks
23:43 * masterofmonks pokes lwq-ipod
23:46 Seroster FUCK
23:46 Seroster God damn it
23:46 masterofmonks Hurts like hell doesn't it?
23:57 lwq-ipod hi
23:57 lwq-ipod i sent you a pm
23:59 * lwq-ipod pokes masterofmonks

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