Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2011-12-29

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00:00 Ponko oh yes
00:00 Seroster I'll carve of his sisters tits, feed them to him, then I'll push the remains of his whore mothers limp cadaver up his donkeyfucking ass. -.-
00:00 Seroster ... Someone fucked with my bike -.-
00:05 roadran422 Captain's blog. Root of the words Kodak and Modem.
00:05 roadran422 Modem: 1958, coined from mo(dulator) + dem(odulator).
00:05 roadran422 Kodak: 1938, proprietary name for piped music, supposedly a blend of music and Kodak, said to have been coined c.1922 by Gen. George Squier, who developed the system of background music for workplaces.
00:05 roadran422 Thanks wannabe1987 for teaching me what entymology is!
00:08 Ponko astro73|alice: that's pure epic what dickheaf
00:08 Ponko head*
00:08 astro73|alice Ponko: no kidding
00:08 astro73|alice poor communication, poor customer service, and a pile of arrogance
00:09 astro73|alice a hundred PR people can't do nothing against millions of daily hits
00:09 Ponko yep
00:10 Ponko i don't get how Mike was spamming
00:10 astro73|alice he wasn't
00:10 Ponko that dickhead sent him numerous emails
00:10 astro73|alice dickhead was just being a dickhead
00:11 Andyroo Just finished reading the PA article... It's like I can feel something bad's about to happen over there... A fel wind, disturbance in the force... I fear for Ocean Marketing's future :O
00:11 astro73|alice and clearly doesn't understand how hardcore gamers work
00:11 Ponko i bet that guy wouldn't say shit to him IRL
00:11 tonsofpcs lol
00:12 astro73|alice his awful customer service and poor attitude cost him on of the biggest gaming cons
00:12 Ponko says he loves the site then berates it
00:12 Ponko right
00:12 tonsofpcs Muzak, yyou mean, roadran422?
00:13 Ponko makes you want to take a big old sledgehammer to his face
00:15 roadran422 What?
00:15 roadran422 Tonsofpcs: What?
00:15 astro73|alice Ponko: Don't worry. I'm sure his twitter and email is full
00:15 Ponko yep
00:15 Coderjoe wow
00:16 Coderjoe that PA link... that is some good old customer service there
00:16 tonsofpcs roadran422: muzak = music + kodak?
00:17 Coderjoe Ponko: yeah... first try buttering up. then when that doesn't work, try intimidation
00:18 astro73|alice except the twitter is @OceanStratagy
00:18 Ponko hmm
00:18 Ponko Coderjoe: i can do that
00:18 Ponko the latter i excel at
00:19 Ponko ol
00:19 roadran422 Lol
00:19 roadran422 Idk
00:19 Coderjoe that was this Paul guy's strategy
00:20 Coderjoe haha
00:20 Ponko yeah but i do that to people like him
00:20 Coderjoe paul changed twitter names?
00:20 astro73|alice Coderjoe: twice, apperently
00:20 astro73|alice according to https://twitter.com/#!/stevencahill/status/152151732384841728
00:20 BotSteve Title: Twitter
00:21 Ponko to dave i'd of been well a decent person
00:23 astro73|alice well, apparently N-Control is no longer using Ocean's services
00:24 Coderjoe wow
00:24 Coderjoe in his twitter profile pic he even looks like a bit of a douche
00:24 astro73|alice kinda
00:25 Coderjoe so wait...
00:25 Coderjoe this is supposedly a marketing firm hired by the controller manufacturer?
00:25 Coderjoe why is a customer dealing with the marketer?
00:26 Coderjoe (not that it makes a difference in how unprofessional Paul was)
00:26 astro73|alice I guess it was part of the deal?
00:26 astro73|alice maybe he was supposed to organize the US promotion and service
00:27 Ponko did a piss poor job if you ask me
00:28 astro73|alice also, the ocean website is pretty generic
00:28 astro73|alice http://oceanmarketinginc.com/
00:28 BotSteve Title: Social Media Marketing | SEO | PPC | Website Development
00:29 Coderjoe http://penny-arcade.com/resources/an-update1.html
00:29 BotSteve Title: Penny Arcade - an update
00:29 Ponko that's hilarious
00:29 Ponko astro73|alice: Penny Arcades is a crap website according to Paul
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00:30 astro73|alice i think he just called the internet the biggest bully
00:31 Ponko and why am i envisaging that this guy looks like Johnny Cage only fat and even MORE of a dickhead but tbf i LIKE Johnny Cage he's at least popular
00:31 astro73|alice also, his phone number is still on his site
00:31 astro73|alice http://oceanmarketinginc.com/Contact-Us.php
00:31 BotSteve Title: Social Media Marketing | Search Engine Optimization | PPC | Reputation Management
00:32 Ponko does this prat have any feesable brain cell?
00:32 Coderjoe i love the little anchored bar at the bottom of the ocean page, which obscures the footer
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00:32 Ponko and wait he's using an Insult to endorse his site?
00:33 astro73|alice he's referring to the streisand effect, a little bit
00:33 astro73|alice but that's not going to happen here
00:33 Ponko yeah figured
00:33 Gaxnys I feel sick. It may or may not have something to do with all the panning in a song I'm working on. Mission complete?
00:34 Ponko i actually haven't heard of these guys before
00:34 Ponko so all that talk that he 'knows' people is bullshit
00:34 Coderjoe mix song. make audience hurl. mission complete.
00:35 Coderjoe crack problem at tgg
00:35 Coderjoe ooh
00:36 astro73|alice Ponko: It's possible he does know people. But after this, he won't.
00:36 Coderjoe tggmc: to the MDH!
00:36 astro73|alice bbl, food
00:36 nonamedgeek ... I wish the video would cut over to the MDH..
00:36 Coderjoe yay
00:36 tggmc I had to get up here
00:36 Cprossu straighjacket challenge lol
00:36 tggmc enjoy
00:37 Andyroo "There will be blood"
00:37 Ponko lol i have no idea but it'll be going to the geekgroup
00:37 Ponko good ol Chris
00:37 nonamedgeek is it actualy possible to get out of a straight jacket?
00:37 Ponko on 92.1 THE SHARRRRRK
00:37 tggmc yes
00:37 lwq1996 wow i just clear off half my desktop
00:37 Cprossu I sure as hell couldn't tggmc lol
00:38 Ponko with Terminator Steve
00:38 Ponko oh good
00:38 Ponko times
00:38 SparkyProjects Hang him upside-down from the forklift :D
00:38 BotSteve sparkyprojects: I have the following messages for you:
00:38 BotSteve At 28 Dec 23:24Z, Seroster asked me to tell sparkyprojects Lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=say0lHRt9yU&feature=youtu.be
00:38 lwq1996 i cant believe chris is putting that vest on someone
00:38 Ponko SparkyProjects: this isn't Chatham they don't do that there :P
00:39 SparkyProjects :P
00:39 lwq1996 nonamedgeek not if they restrain the person right and securily
00:39 Andyroo Steve, can you overlay a ten minute timer on the live stream?? :D
00:39 Coderjoe they added some loops since houdini's day, i think
00:40 Ponko astro73|alice: that guy probably doesn't even know a bowel movement hense why he's soo full of shit
00:40 lwq1996 the could andy but steve is lazy :P
00:40 Andyroo "chris uses 100-dollar taunt.... it's super effective!"
00:40 lwq1996 im kidding
00:41 lwq1996 i feel hes going to break the jacket before he gets it off
00:41 Ponko glad i've had 6 Jager Monsters to watch this :P
00:42 lwq1996 i cant believe chris got out of it
00:42 lwq1996 i want to see if he could do it again
00:42 nonamedgeek In theory, you could do the 10:00 counter a few ways... I don't know how master control's set up, but if you had something with black and white text counting down, you could get a shot of that on a camera and use a luminance key to get rid of your BG for the text to go over the video.
00:42 Coderjoe the guy didn't keep enough slack around the neck to get out
00:43 Andyroo I'm thinking... left arm round to the right as far as possible, right arm back as far as possible, slip right arm up sleeve... step 2: ??? ...Yeah. This looks difficult
00:43 Coderjoe he's doing a decent job, but I don't think he'll get it
00:43 lwq1996 nonamegeek they have a saturn switch and it has a countdown clock but i think steve is not a mc right now
00:43 Cprossu we don't have any overlays that work
00:43 Cprossu btw
00:44 nonamedgeek does it still do chroma/luma keying?
00:44 Cprossu all our chyron/pinnacle systems that we got run on SDI in/out.
00:44 Cprossu we could but we don't have anything to do the graphics with nonamedgeek
00:44 lwq1996 my school used to use these on the speds in the 1900's
00:45 Coderjoe so you just need some composite/component/Y-C to SDI converters....
00:45 Cprossu yeah send us about 20
00:45 Cprossu good ones are ~$575 per interface
00:46 Coderjoe what about that 3 or 4 U "toaster" box steve was looking at when all the stuff came over in the last batch?
00:46 Ponko MacGyver could get out that Jacket
00:46 Coderjoe with the cards
00:46 lwq1996 lol aslong as you have bones your screw
00:46 Cprossu Coderjoe: that's component/RGB to SDI
00:46 Coderjoe lwq1996: no. it can be done, if you know the jacket and prepare properly while it is being put on
00:47 lwq1996 yeah i know
00:47 Cprossu Coderjoe: also it was like 2U I had thought
00:47 Cprossu if there's another box link me!
00:47 Coderjoe Cprossu: do the cameras actually output anything on the Y,R-Y,B-Y lines of the CCZ connector?
00:47 Ponko BotSteve: Should i have another drink and stay on IRC?
00:47 BotSteve Not a chance
00:47 Ponko BotSteve: Should i stay on IRC?
00:47 BotSteve No way
00:47 Coderjoe it might have been 2
00:47 Ponko bye then
00:47 * Ponko leaves
00:47 lwq1996 ive seen a friend do it once when they brought a group into my school and they brought one of their jackets
00:47 Coderjoe i was going off memory
00:48 Andyroo About a minute left?
00:49 Coderjoe (not saying I'd be able to, not having even worn one or seen one in person, but I know the general trick to getting out)
00:50 SparkyProjects Coderjoe: Most of the ones used by escape people don't have the arm or belt loops
00:51 Coderjoe yeah... I noticed those
00:51 Andyroo Off to the lunatic asylum.. or bed, whichever is nearest. Night all!
00:51 SparkyProjects Night
00:53 lwq1996 i want to see batman try to get out of it
00:53 Coderjoe need omnis or condensers, plus a compressor/limiter :-\
00:53 nonamedgeek can the audio levels be put up any more? I've got my laptop and the video's audio maxed and its really quiet...
00:54 Coderjoe the problem is the micing is only the one kinda-uni dynamic on the stage
00:54 lwq1996 lol hes making a blog
00:55 SparkyProjects He's been making a blog on and off for a while
00:55 nonamedgeek ah... I'd thought they'd set up some other types of mics or something to cover everything better...
00:56 sndwrx So how's the party been?
00:56 lwq1996 the litteraly just set up for this yesterday so not alot of prep
00:56 sndwrx Have the festivities ended?
01:00 Ponko most entertaining :)
01:01 Ponko you missed the straight jacket challenge
01:02 Coderjoe I found the Blackmagic Design Mini Analog-to-SDI... which is still $300 apiece :(
01:02 Seroster I hate straight slot screws
01:03 tonsofpcs ok, I want to make a device that both inputs and outputs (these pieces can be separate) a 2-7 volt peak-to-peak (110ohm) balanced signal that runs around 12.5 MHz (I want to control the sampling so I'd probably be looking for 25 MHz or 50 MHz capabilities).  Input would trigger a bunch of pull-ups/downs (LEDs for UI), output would be controlled either by physical switches (creating status closures) or buttons (The former seems
01:03 Coderjoe (there's also the OpenGear system, but those have an MSRP of $495 per card)
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01:04 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: those are silly for this use.  It'd be cheaper to just buy a new switcher that takes analog in and digitizes everything and spits SDI out.
01:04 tonsofpcs (I mean, if you can find them free, don't say no, but at that price...)
01:04 NeWtoz .seen BotSteve
01:04 BotSteve I'm right here, actually.
01:04 NeWtoz .seen BatSteve-Away
01:04 BotSteve NeWtoz: I last saw Bat-Mobile 19.01 hours ago at 2011-12-28 06:04:13 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:04:48 UTC
01:04 BotSteve NeWtoz: I last saw Bot-Mobile 194.52 hours ago at 2011-12-20 22:33:21 UTC on #tgg-bots.
01:04 BotSteve NeWtoz: I last saw BatSteve-Away 283.80 hours ago at 2011-12-17 05:16:48 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
01:04 BotSteve NeWtoz: I last saw Farts-Mobile 427.13 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:57:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
01:05 tonsofpcs that REALLY needs to be fixed
01:05 Coderjoe well, depending on routing, you could potentially take the VM output and convert that to SDI (or do you have a VM with SDI inputs)
01:05 NeWtoz I know how to fix it, but I obviously don't have permission to
01:05 Ponko NeWtoz: my man
01:05 NeWtoz tgg-BotSteve/modules/seen.py line 18
01:06 NeWtoz change value from 5 to 2 or 3
01:06 NeWtoz I have it memorized :)
01:06 NeWtoz Ponko, my girly man
01:06 NeWtoz j/k
01:07 Ponko oi
01:07 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: VM?
01:07 injektion How long can the startup sound in Windows XP be?
01:07 Coderjoe vision mixer
01:07 Coderjoe what you're calling a switcher
01:08 Coderjoe (I don't like calling it that because it does more than just switch)
01:08 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: also, there's an optimod, but it needs major tweaking and the levels still need to be good going into it.
01:08 sndwrx Seroster: Why are slot screws still manufactured?
01:08 NeWtoz I'm so tired, I almost didn't go to the lab
01:08 tonsofpcs sndwrx: cheaper?
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01:09 Seroster Because it is cheaper to run a grinding wheel over a piece of metal than it is to punch a phillips into it
01:09 Coderjoe what is this "optimod"? google isn't terribly helpful
01:09 tonsofpcs orban.com
01:09 sndwrx Well, that's stupid.
01:09 tonsofpcs or optimod.fm
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01:09 Coderjoe what model?
01:09 tonsofpcs 8282
01:10 tonsofpcs 8282-TV to be precise, I think
01:10 Seroster I like those phislot screws. The combined ones
01:10 tonsofpcs I haven't touched it.
01:11 w0vha egrsteve|away: Can you drop the scanner?  We're having trouble hearing them out there (since Chris put the straightjacket over the mic...)
01:12 tonsofpcs oh, there'ss a show again?
01:12 w0vha they're sitting around bullshitting
01:12 tonsofpcs tggmc: ^
01:12 Coderjoe ooh
01:12 Coderjoe ftp://orban.com/8282/
01:12 Monkeh|Lap Oh, hey, anyone have the order number for the baluns which arrived?
01:13 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: yes, that.
01:13 Monkeh|Lap Because I think those were mine.
01:13 Monkeh|Lap tggmc: Merry christmas, baluns. :)
01:14 SparkyProjects Not sure if anyone in in mc, Steve was in MDH a minute ago
01:14 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Eh, he might get it.
01:14 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: He's more likely to get it there than at his other presence right now. :)
01:14 Ponko NeWtoz: it's bad form to insult someone who has been drinking
01:15 SparkyProjects If not, wait for the latest blog to post (the one he's making today) and leave a comment, chris will read it
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01:16 Seroster Hey SparkyProjects, got the vid? =P
01:17 technowizard hey hey
01:17 SparkyProjects Yeah, that was cool :D
01:17 technowizard greetings from Boston
01:17 SparkyProjects Too much power :P
01:17 Seroster Idk when your copper melts, but that wasnt cool at all =P
01:17 Seroster Hell no, wasnt too much power, too short leads
01:17 SparkyProjects Hi technowizard
01:18 tonsofpcs hi boston
01:18 Seroster Ahoy tharr technowizard from boston
01:18 technowizard Sparky ... let me guess - tesla coils, voltage multipliers, marx generators are your thing?
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01:18 Seroster Lol
01:18 Monkeh|Lap Again with the nouveau crashing, ffs.
01:18 Seroster Nah, He's a sparky
01:18 Seroster Too bad monkeh
01:18 Seroster SparkyProjects, the one in the vid was hooked straight into mains. Next one will be safer, I got this manual three pole contactor
01:18 SparkyProjects They would be if i had the stuff, but so far only Tesla's and Jacob's ladder.
01:19 Seroster Few meters of wire to the stack, meter of wire to the outlet, box in between
01:19 Coderjoe well, I think I am off to the LUG social
01:19 Seroster Cya Coderjoe
01:19 Seroster technowizard, Since you know what those things are I suppose you are a high voltage geek, eh?
01:19 technowizard i am a bit of a self taught coiler etc. myself. started with 555's and LEDs, then learned about driving mosfets for more power etc etc
01:19 technowizard indeed i be one :D
01:19 Seroster Nice
01:20 Seroster What do you use to power your coils?
01:20 technowizard what I REALLY want to see is a faraday cage between the two towers of the Gemini coils!
01:20 technowizard oh I got a 15kv/30ma NST
01:20 SparkyProjects technowizard: I've been an electrician for over 30 years, hence the name
01:20 tonsofpcs a spark(y) (as opposed to a squeak)
01:21 technowizard cool stuff sparky
01:22 Seroster Cool,go make one technowizard =D
01:22 SparkyProjects technowizard: Chris has mentioned having a coil big enough for someone to be able to climb inside to sit in the topload while live, maybe that's what he's going to do with the next big tesla project (3 coils)
01:22 technowizard i been in a faraday cage at Boston Museum of science - here's a vid,, 1 million volts .. and a cute girl hostess http://www.youtube.com/user/TechnoW1zard
01:22 BotSteve Title: TechnoW1zard's Channel - YouTube
01:22 Seroster Oh, SparkyProjects, remember the 3ph jake ladder?
01:22 Seroster Fuck that was awesome
01:22 tonsofpcs 3ph jacobs ladder?
01:23 * tonsofpcs wants video and/or pics
01:23 * technowizard testing the /me feature
01:23 Seroster .yt three phase jacobs ladder
01:23 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDgHaCC9ERM
01:23 w0vha Doggone thing... time to sign off anyway... I've been awake for almost 30 hours...
01:23 w0vha Good night all. 73 DE W0VHA
01:24 Seroster Well not that one
01:24 Seroster It was three mots in series on l1 l2 and l3
01:24 Seroster tied together in the middle
01:24 Seroster three arcs met
01:24 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: ~$40k can get you a 1.5ME For-A HD/SD/Analog
01:25 technowizard O_O  dang that jacobs lader is epic
01:25 SparkyProjects That one doesn't look that good, i want to see good star or delta arcs
01:26 SparkyProjects Star arcs would be cool
01:26 technowizard makes the little 14 inch high one I cobbled together out of a coat hanger for the leads look like a flashbulb
01:27 technowizard that reminds me i got 3 or 4 MOTs sitting around but have heard too many warnings to do anything with them ....
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01:27 Seroster LOL
01:27 Seroster Yeah. Use them as ballasts and nothing else if you value your life
01:27 SparkyProjects Seroster, show him that vid
01:27 Seroster my vid?
01:28 SparkyProjects yep
01:28 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=say0lHRt9yU&feature=g-upl&context=G2f16ef9AUAAAAAAAAAA
01:28 BotSteve Title: HexaMOTstack first light - YouTube
01:28 SparkyProjects technowizard: Seroster is a mad swede :P
01:29 technowizard well! that's a more .. entertaining way to melt some metal than an induction heater!  haha
01:30 Seroster ... That was a mere test.
01:30 Seroster Hence the oops =P
01:30 technowizard did that just today I see?  nice. what project you aiming for?
01:30 Seroster The project is the reason for the project
01:30 technowizard haha yes i do that a lot sometimes
01:30 tonsofpcs actuallllllllllly
01:30 SparkyProjects Seroster, how many MOT's have you got at home ?
01:30 Seroster I am not building a tc, or anything really, just throwing shit I got laying around together to make sparks
01:31 tonsofpcs hey, Cprossu or egrsteve|away around
01:31 Seroster SparkyProjects, twenty.... er... eight?
01:31 Seroster More or less
01:31 Seroster I have 40+ microwave capacitors and probably 30 diodes
01:31 tonsofpcs Cprossu: does the Saturn have a component output?
01:31 Seroster So next would be 12kv rectified
01:31 technowizard well i am thankful for my variac
01:32 technowizard wow you going to put all those MOTs under oil?
01:32 Seroster No
01:32 Seroster Oil is a fucking mess =P
01:32 technowizard well ... mess ... safety ... equipment burnout ...
01:32 technowizard meh
01:32 jasperdett|lapto why on the stream the mic volume is low
01:33 Seroster Guess why I have a lot more capacitors than transformers mate =D
01:33 Seroster My octomot stack kinda died, and left a black spot in my ceiling
01:33 technowizard last night was my 15kv NST to a 30kv doorknob cap, simple spark gap, a deflection coil from an old tv for the inductor.  little florecent bulb light up YAY
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01:35 technowizard parts of the little spaces between the deflection coil were a very nice shade of glowing purple
01:35 Seroster nice
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01:35 technowizard and ya i got a lot more caps than xfrmers too
01:36 technowizard i live close enough to MIT that in warm weather, once a month is their flea market. everything from vaccum tubes to oscilloscopes, video games, got a nice chunk of quarts once, saw a pound of mercury in a jar for sale .. just .. its sweet
01:37 Seroster =D
01:37 technowizard *quartz
01:38 technowizard anyone watching the live stream?  they all left ...
01:38 wannabe1987 technowizard: you in shipshewana?
01:38 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
01:38 BotSteve At 28 Dec 13:53Z, tonsofpcs asked me to tell wannabe1987 that (if she is using mIRC, which I think she is) she can make an fkey (such as F2) do things automagically [try it with something other than your password first to make sure I didn't screw it up]: /alias /f2 /quote nickserv identify wannabe1987 $?="password?" | /nick wannabe1987
01:39 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: what?
01:39 wannabe1987 and yes, i do use mirc
01:39 Seroster You can run tons of scripts in mirc
01:39 CaptainNiobe morning all :)
01:39 Seroster alt+r
01:39 wannabe1987 i don't know what scrips are, and hi CaptainNiobe
01:40 Seroster You can make anything with scripts
01:40 Seroster like, whenever someone joins you can /me throws a banana at $nick
01:40 Seroster Automatically thatis
01:40 wannabe1987 win
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01:41 Seroster I had a huge script that logged me in, joined channels and did loads of stuff for me wheni connected
01:41 wannabe1987 hi scubadiver
01:41 wannabe1987 so when someone joins, i can have a script that says hi to them like its me?
01:41 wannabe1987 cool
01:42 Seroster yes you can
01:43 Seroster But it is generally frowned upon since it is annoying
01:44 wannabe1987 why, i do it anyway....
01:45 wannabe1987 what me saying hello to members is annoying?
01:45 Seroster Nope
01:46 Seroster But when a bot does it suddenly the words loose all meaning
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01:47 roadran422 .seen monkeh
01:47 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw Monkeh|Lap 0.49 hours ago at 2011-12-29 01:18:20 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:47:32 UTC
01:47 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw Monkeh 2.63 hours ago at 2011-12-28 23:09:40 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
01:47 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw Monkeh|Test 216.61 hours ago at 2011-12-20 01:10:59 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
01:47 roadran422 .seen monkeh616
01:47 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen monkeh616 around.
01:47 roadran422 Well.. Hola!
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01:49 Killa-X Blip.
01:49 roadran422 Blip?
01:50 Killa-X Yup, random word of the ... day.
01:50 roadran422 Lol
01:50 Killa-X Im just bored and decided to swing by...Seeing whats going on
01:51 roadran422 Idk... Just got on a bit ago too...
01:51 Killa-X Got my coil together for Paul kidwell tomorrow...so, not much to do heh
01:51 roadran422 Nice hahaha
01:51 wannabe1987 hi Killa-X!
01:51 wannabe1987 you're alive!
01:51 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Report website problems to dr_jkl with ".bug". | The name's Bond...Ionic Bond.  Taken, not shared. | For some reason the word of the day is "Blip". Ask Killa-X about it.
01:51 Killa-X Hiya kelly
01:52 roadran422 Lol Killa-X
01:52 roadran422 Now Blip is the official word hahaha
01:52 Killa-X :P
01:52 roadran422 I was going to pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniosis...
01:52 Killa-X Nice and big.
01:52 Killa-X vs my puny simple word.  Blip..
01:53 roadran422 Ya... Lol, it's a disease caused by inhaling volcanic ash.
01:54 wannabe1987 lol
01:54 Killa-X Well, Glad i wont experience that...Unless yellow stone burps..
01:54 roadran422 ... Lol
01:54 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: May I help you?
01:54 roadran422 I was just curious if you knew what this number was, "1203KQ26"?
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01:55 roadran422 Well number and etter
01:55 roadran422 *letter
01:55 Monkeh|Lap .. Of course I know what the number is, I posted it.
01:55 roadran422 Hahhaha
01:55 Killa-X It appears to be a secrete code.... *tries to crack it*
01:55 roadran422 It's his order number he posted on the captain's blog for baluns...
01:55 roadran422 He ordered from CHINA.
01:55 wannabe1987 lol
01:55 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: And?
01:55 Killa-X Something wrong with that? lol
01:56 roadran422 China is the place to get cheap crappy shit...
01:56 Killa-X *hides his laser collection behind his back* China...
01:56 roadran422 Nothing is made in the U.S. anymore... Well not much lol
01:56 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: ... You find me a simple balun NOT made in China.
01:56 Killa-X Few things here and there.
01:56 roadran422 I will.
01:56 roadran422 HA!
01:56 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Unless it goes on the goddamn Space Shuttle, it's from China.
01:56 roadran422 xD
01:57 Killa-X Ohhhhhh
01:57 Killa-X I can find you that :D
01:57 Monkeh|Lap There is nothing in these things to fail anyway
01:59 Killa-X Will.....find....item.....
01:59 wannabe1987 screws.
01:59 wannabe1987 screws fail
01:59 wannabe1987 BotSteve, should i eat gingerbread marshmallows?
01:59 BotSteve Oh yeah!
01:59 wannabe1987 thanks!
01:59 roadran422 http://www.patton.com/products/product_detail.asp?id=365
01:59 BotSteve Title: Patton Model 330 Series CATV Passive Baluns - Made in USA
02:00 wannabe1987 win
02:00 roadran422 Might nont be cheap... But it's made in the U.S.
02:01 wannabe1987 mhm
02:01 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Right.. and the parts? They're not made in the US.
02:02 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: They might go so far as doing the injection moulding in the US.. with machines made in China.
02:02 Killa-X Where the heck did they put it...
02:02 Killa-X They use to have on this site a "Used in the US space shuttle" :P
02:02 roadran422 ...:P
02:02 roadran422 I wish I could go deeper.
02:02 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Just so you're aware, the legal requirement for saying 'made in' is for the final manufacturing process to be performed in the country.
02:03 roadran422 INTO TH INFORMATION OF THE BALUN. DON'T BE THINKING PERVERTED.
02:03 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Which means as little as putting the stickers on.
02:03 wannabe1987 lol
02:03 Monkeh|Lap Or snapping a case together
02:03 roadran422 Ok. Ok. I'm 14, I don't know much... lol
02:03 Killa-X *slaps Made IN USA sticker on my head*  Oh...the sticker was made in China by the way :)
02:03 roadran422 Lol
02:03 Monkeh|Lap Nearly every electronic component is made in China.
02:03 roadran422 ...
02:03 Killa-X well....
02:04 Monkeh|Lap The ones which aren't are either very, very specialised or prototypes.
02:04 Killa-X i beleive Cornell distrub. caps are made in USA.. lol
02:04 roadran422 Screw china!
02:04 Killa-X yet again they prob get their supplies from chinga :D
02:04 roadran422 Lol
02:04 Killa-X China*
02:04 Monkeh|Lap Killa-X: Are they, or do they just put the wrapping on in the US?
02:04 Killa-X they have a factory that rolls them.
02:04 roadran422 Lol
02:04 Killa-X In, cornell.
02:05 Monkeh|Lap Not a brand I've ever seen before, mind you
02:05 Killa-X doesnt mean they dont get their thousands of pounds metal rolls from china.
02:05 Monkeh|Lap They probably make like 0.005% of capacitors produced annually.
02:05 roadran422 lol
02:06 lwq1996 hey its killa-x
02:06 roadran422 Hi lee...
02:06 Monkeh|Lap There's an injection moulding factory in my town. They produce all sorts of things for all sorts of people, by the tens of thousands. And still they're just supplementing orders from Chinese companies..
02:06 Killa-X Then china can shut down all exports and say Woo! We rule the world, the rest of the world suffers!
02:06 lwq1996 hi roadran
02:06 roadran422 Hahaha
02:07 roadran422 Mis ojos estan en mi pantalones. Y yo tengo un gato en mis pantalones.
02:07 Killa-X Im too lazy to copy that to google :(
02:07 roadran422 Lol
02:08 Seroster hey SparkyProjects1, I got a clampon meter for xmas
02:08 Killa-X Wooo
02:08 SparkyProjects1 Cool :)
02:08 Monkeh|Lap Ah, good, I see Boden's clamping down on the ladder abuse.
02:08 roadran422 LOl
02:08 roadran422 He's gonna fal...
02:08 roadran422 *fall
02:09 wannabe1987 lwq1996!!!!!!!!!
02:09 Killa-X Time to teach ladder saftey to the group...After all i only have 20 hours into OSHA training.. :P
02:09 roadran422 O_O
02:09 Killa-X i have certificates for industrial and commercial.
02:09 wannabe1987 my only friend :P
02:09 Killa-X Im not your friend? awww
02:09 Killa-X But Jenison isnt far away! Its still possible!!
02:10 roadran422 I have a question for you. Is workin in a Company with massive amounts of Cyanide, without any saftey gear such as masks, goggles, gloves, or even extinguishers safe?
02:10 wannabe1987 no, you don't give me free sweets at family fare....heck you're never there when i go :P
02:10 Killa-X Hey now, Just because i work 9-6 every day (almost) doesnt mean im there 24 hours :P
02:10 wannabe1987 lol
02:11 roadran422 Is it really safe? Or could you possible die?
02:11 Killa-X er...I would think its not safe :P
02:11 roadran422 Hahaha
02:11 roadran422 I'd like to be in a bath full of hydrogen cyanide one day!
02:11 Killa-X *Starts a big fire and looks at the boss* Watcha gona do now?
02:11 roadran422 XD
02:12 Killa-X Let alone the spark of a light switch could ignite a gas leak ;)
02:12 roadran422 Hahaha
02:13 Killa-X Oh...btw..I have a finland friend who is going to send me some coinage for stomper :)
02:13 roadran422 Watch some idiot drop like a solid ingot of Francium in to a bucket of water. And try to put it out with water.
02:13 Killa-X hehehe
02:13 Killa-X that would be bad
02:13 roadran422 Yes. Yes that would indeed.
02:14 Killa-X If only i had some..
02:14 roadran422 Uh oh.
02:14 Killa-X :D
02:14 * roadran422 scurries away and calls the fire department.
02:14 Killa-X I know. I mess with enough chemical mixtures..
02:15 wannabe1987 lol
02:15 * roadran422 dips Killa-X in to Cyanide, then Lye, then in HCl, then in Nitric Acid, then Aqua Regia, then in HFl.
02:16 Killa-X Finish me off with a sugar coat with a cherry on top while your at it..
02:16 roadran422 Lol
02:16 Seroster HAHAHA
02:16 Seroster YES
02:16 Killa-X uh oh..
02:16 roadran422 No, I am not done yet.
02:16 Killa-X mad scientist on the loose.
02:17 roadran422 Some potassium chlorate and sugar and some bradny. And a spark.
02:17 Seroster The shortest distance I can get my motstack to start an arc is exactly 13.2 centimeters
02:17 Killa-X *me shoves his potassium chlorate container to the side*
02:17 Killa-X I dont have any...
02:17 Seroster er, 1.32 cm*
02:17 roadran422 Hahahahaha
02:17 Killa-X so about 1320V?
02:17 Killa-X rough estimated..
02:17 Seroster 1.32cm would be more or less exactly 13200volts
02:18 Killa-X :)
02:18 Seroster Ten thousand for one centimeter
02:18 Killa-X yup
02:18 Killa-X wait
02:18 Killa-X nvm. duh.
02:18 Killa-X NST. 12KV. 1.2CM.  Okay, mind is in check :D
02:18 Seroster lol
02:19 Killa-X So you putting a stack together or something..?
02:19 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=say0lHRt9yU&feature=g-upl&context=G2f16ef9AUAAAAAAAAAA
02:19 roadran422 I like chemistry... But it's not about chemicals though
02:19 BotSteve Title: HexaMOTstack first light - YouTube
02:19 Killa-X ooo..
02:19 roadran422 *all about
02:19 Killa-X Most i done was 4 :(
02:19 Killa-X 5' arcs though :D
02:20 Killa-X Well, if you try to measure all the waves in the arc..
02:20 Seroster Lol
02:20 Seroster HM
02:20 Seroster Now
02:20 Seroster When there is no arc present the entire stack jumps up and down at 50hz
02:21 Killa-X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmmbtOIH5DQ 2:44, my best of mots :( whimpy
02:21 BotSteve Title: MOT quad stack - SloMo Only - YouTube
02:22 Killa-X Roughly 4ft.. but...yeah :P about 70A per phase, on 150:0:150 30A
02:22 Killa-X But, thats peak.
02:22 Seroster lol
02:23 Killa-X Cant wait to test my DRSSTC V 2 on the lab in a few months :)
02:23 Killa-X then we be talking about 10+ft of electricity :D
02:24 wannabe1987 i won't be around this weekend (i'm "down south") and unable to go to the hvl this weekend
02:24 Killa-X http://i.imgur.com/nhjpe.jpg Because V2 is moar powa
02:25 tonsofpcs hi
02:25 roadran422 Hi
02:25 wannabe1987 hi
02:25 Killa-X Fi... Had to.
02:26 Seroster When I rectify the motstack the voltage increases by roughly 50% right
02:26 Killa-X the rule of V * 1.414 should still apply.
02:26 Seroster But.. The arc lenght should be increased by more than 50% since it doesnt hit zero fifty times a second eh?
02:27 Killa-X well, you need to explain more :P
02:27 Killa-X you cant tell me my 4' quad, + rectifier, is 8ft :D
02:27 Killa-X woops.
02:27 Killa-X im stupid. 6ft.
02:27 Seroster hm
02:28 Killa-X 50%...not 200%..
02:28 Seroster You get more than 50% arc increase, right?
02:28 lwq1996 i realized its time to loose weight so i found an app
02:28 Killa-X As far as im aware.....Your arc length will be V * 1.414, and the amount it can draw out is dependent on the amount of  amps.
02:28 roadran422 What is the app?
02:28 Killa-X Because you can get 1ft arcs off of 12V
02:29 Killa-X it just takes a large capacitor bank, and one bloody powerful resistor.
02:29 lwq1996 calorie count
02:29 Killa-X Thumper + Super power resistor == Big beefy arcs.
02:29 Ponko uuuuuuhhhhh tooo much booze
02:29 roadran422 Oh hahaha
02:29 Killa-X I mean melt 1/2" bolt into molten metal beefy.
02:30 lwq1996 i love this app
02:30 Killa-X problem is finding a resistor that can handle that voltage and current without popping :D
02:30 Seroster Killa-X, But with the same amperage any given arc could be drawn longer due to being DC instead of AC, right?
02:30 roadran422 I can do that with a battery charger.... If the diameter of it is like 5/16 of an inch and alumnium.
02:30 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: what irc client are you using?
02:30 Killa-X i would assume DC would allow longer bececause its a constant high, instead of +12000, 0, -12000, 0 etc
02:31 Killa-X so instead of rise-fall-rise-fall its just rise and maintained..? idk
02:31 Seroster yeah
02:31 Seroster And that rise would be over 50¤
02:31 Killa-X so yeah, i would assume it would add SOME length, as to how much, i cant say
02:31 Killa-X because i know when you talk about tesla coils
02:31 tonsofpcs I don't know... DC has more path loss.
02:31 Killa-X half vs full bridge, a full puts out 2X the streamer.  If half was 4' full is 8ft
02:32 Killa-X so i assume it works in the same similar manner.  More on time with little fall time, larger arc.
02:32 roadran422 Ac Vs. Dc, who wins?
02:32 Killa-X depends what the battle is about.
02:32 Killa-X power distribution AC wins as we know.
02:33 Seroster Hrm
02:33 Killa-X If, cost is a factor.
02:33 roadran422 Idk... Back in the old days. When they had ac and dc. Why is ac used in electrical outlets rather than dc...
02:33 Seroster Well, if I rectify it I will do it full wave with caps
02:33 Killa-X if you dont mind mega wires and mega inverters, then you can go DC :D
02:33 Seroster I wont need that for a 1ph hexamot
02:33 roadran422 Well... they didn't know it back then... lol
02:33 tonsofpcs roadran422: because edison created an AC distribution system in order to show its dangers (by frying animals) and promote DC.
02:33 Killa-X i run my mots with resonant caps..
02:34 Seroster Ill need a dozen microwave oven diodes and a dozen caps
02:34 roadran422 -_-
02:34 roadran422 Ouch.
02:34 tonsofpcs the department of corrections loved that idea and needed AC distribution!
02:34 lwq1996 hey someone try to hit this with a qr code thing and see what it is i cant get it to work http://www.google.com/imgres?um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=N&biw=1366&bih=667&tbm=isch&tbnid=EdMnM-3uU1aJWM:&imgrefurl=http://chan4chan.com/archive/tags/barcode&docid=aWlghKmCrTAMXM&imgurl=http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2011-03-26/1301143040317.png&w=508&h=508&ei=CM_7TsSLKMGztwebkNGXDQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=185&vpy=204&dur=656&hovh=139&hovw=13
02:34 Killa-X I never ran a mot in my life, without resonant capacitors :) and i never ever use a ballast
02:34 BotSteve Title: 4chan
02:34 roadran422 Give me a sec lee
02:34 * tonsofpcs uses sand as a ballast :-p
02:34 Seroster FOR THE LOVE OF GOD TINYURL
02:35 lwq1996 i dont have tinyurl handy
02:35 lwq1996 seroster try the qr code :P
02:35 Seroster ITS IN THE FUCKING BROWSER
02:35 Killa-X troll face QR code reads
02:35 Seroster Yeah, I'll try a random qr code that says "4chan" I got from a 14 year old troll
02:35 Killa-X Problems? TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO....
02:35 lwq1996 lol
02:36 lwq1996 killa-x got rick rolled
02:36 Killa-X Im just saying.
02:36 roadran422 Lee.... I hate you.
02:36 lwq1996 was kicked by Seroster: No cool mate.
02:36 Killa-X Not a rick roll really.
02:36 roadran422 Rick roll is an anoyance.
02:36 Killa-X I just scanned it to see if it read ;)
02:36 roadran422 Lol
02:37 roadran422 I got trolled.
02:37 roadran422 You motherfing troller.
02:37 roadran422 AHH!
02:37 tonsofpcs he's gone
02:37 roadran422 ...?
02:37 Killa-X oh well.
02:37 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
02:37 roadran422 Who kicked him. -_-
02:37 lwq1996 fucker -.-
02:37 lwq1996 seroster
02:37 Seroster I did
02:37 roadran422 Seroster. Why?
02:37 Seroster Because he's trolling?
02:37 Killa-X Because its childs play? :D
02:37 lwq1996 because i was an ass :P
02:37 Seroster There's three good reasons, pick one ^^
02:38 roadran422 Is that a rule here? No trolling
02:38 Killa-X Because  ... i just wanted to conten--DAMN YOU
02:38 lwq1996 no but its seroster what you expect
02:38 roadran422 Lol
02:38 roadran422 XD
02:38 Killa-X Love, care, and joy.
02:38 Seroster roadran422, I could make one up if it makes you feel happier
02:38 roadran422 ... lol
02:39 roadran422 I'm nothing full of Care, Love and Joy! ...someone says "and bs". WHAT DID YOU SAY!
02:39 roadran422 *but full
02:39 Killa-X hmm
02:40 roadran422 Killa-X: Godzilla will die.
02:40 Killa-X What your mom tells you, doesnt mean thats the truth...
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02:40 roadran422 LOL
02:40 thegamer579 hi there
02:41 Killa-X Ello
02:41 roadran422 I believe that if you hit Pb with a hammer hard enough, it will turn in to gold.
02:41 injektion lol
02:41 roadran422 That's pure science right there! Alechemy! FTW
02:42 Killa-X Wheres.....mah.......hammar...
02:42 roadran422 Lol
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02:43 tonsofpcs roadran422: that only works with a very specific isotope.
02:43 roadran422 Hahaha
02:43 tonsofpcs also, it will happen even without the hammer.
02:44 tonsofpcs mind you, it doesn't remain gold for that long
02:44 Killa-X http://i.imgur.com/Zvkmz.jpg Justa step closer to my project dream of the summer.
02:44 roadran422 Pb-(9*10^-501).11*10^1000
02:44 tonsofpcs Y/Pr/Pb?
02:44 roadran422 That's the Isotope right there.
02:44 tonsofpcs Cprossu: gah
02:45 roadran422 Now where the hell am I gonna get Pb-(9*10^-501).11*10^1000...
02:45 Killa-X one word.
02:45 Killa-X EBAAAAAAAY!
02:45 roadran422 Lol
02:45 Killa-X oh, wait, i forgot.
02:45 Killa-X China.
02:45 roadran422 Lol
02:46 tonsofpcs wtf are you on about, roadran422?
02:46 roadran422 ... lol
02:46 Killa-X Magic.  A rich man in the near future.
02:46 roadran422 You said I needed a specific isotope to my gold! That's the isotope I need "Pb-(9*10^-501).11*10^1000"
02:47 Killa-X Just go to the counter.  I HAS GOLD! *BANG BANG BANG* SEE! buy it now please... NOW!!! *turns color* DARN IT YOU FAILED
02:47 roadran422 Lol
02:47 tonsofpcs roadran422: that doesn't make any sense.
02:47 roadran422 It turned color allright... The house turned color also. A very bright red.
02:47 Killa-X Is it shaped like a dog house..
02:47 roadran422 Lol
02:48 Killa-X anyways.. lol
02:48 roadran422 tonsofpcs: what do you mean... I am confusing my self lol
02:49 Killa-X (Yay my computer is gona ship tomorrow)
02:49 roadran422 Nice
02:49 Killa-X it passed assembly, Quality test, and burn in test today
02:50 roadran422 I want a computer powered by plutonium, and uranium. I can crack any godamn algorithm now!
02:50 Killa-X oo..
02:50 Killa-X Lets do it
02:50 roadran422 Lol
02:50 Killa-X We may have the FBI/CIA ontop of us in a matter of seconds, but.. what the heck
02:50 roadran422 Lol
02:51 roadran422 The world's best supercomputer.
02:51 Killa-X far better than that ~300 PS3's super bank
02:51 roadran422 Lol
02:51 Killa-X http://media.cleveland.com/metro/photo/playstations-in-racksjpg-4434650ba63131af.jpg
02:52 Killa-X who needs to do taht when you got plutonium!
02:52 roadran422 Lol, I like how the keyboard's just hanging.
02:52 Killa-X :P
02:53 roadran422 There's no table or anything. Just laying there ll
02:53 roadran422 Odd question.. How old are you? Y habla espanol?
02:53 tonsofpcs roadran422: that is not how you denote an isotope....
02:53 Killa-X Sorry, i miss spoke. 1,760 PS 3s
02:54 Killa-X roadran422:  me?
02:54 roadran422 Killa-X: Ya hahaha
02:54 roadran422 tonsofpcs: I don't know... Lol
02:55 Killa-X Im 20, and no...I live in michigan..and go to TGG. I didnt bother doing spanish classes
02:55 roadran422 Wow... Lol
02:55 Killa-X why lol
02:55 roadran422 Oh nice... I'm 14 live in bradenton fl... And just curious...
02:56 Killa-X http://i.imgur.com/I820Q.jpg Look familiar? Ya. Mine.
02:57 roadran422 Oh! The kid with the musical tesla coil!
02:57 roadran422 Right... D
02:57 Killa-X yes... lol
02:57 Killa-X which will  be there tomorrow
02:57 roadran422 Lol
02:57 Killa-X http://i.imgur.com/dBdW9.jpg Still pretty.
02:57 roadran422 You're 20... And you know mostly all the OSHA rules?
02:58 Killa-X I didnt say all
02:58 Killa-X I just been through 2 10-hour training
02:58 roadran422 Oh... lol
02:58 Killa-X Reminds me i need to charge my cam batteries and empty the SD card so i can film some stomper in 200/400FPS
02:58 roadran422 I still don't understand, how the tesla coil can play up to 9 tones at once!
02:59 Seroster Goodnight folks
02:59 roadran422 Night
02:59 Killa-X cya
02:59 roadran422 Also.. On stomper, if you invert a coin so that it's inside out. Then do it again. Will the imprint of the coin still be there?
02:59 Seroster Tomorrow: Making the leads foor the jakey ladder.
02:59 Killa-X :)
02:59 Killa-X good luck
02:59 Seroster roadran422, It will be like unscrambling eggs.
03:00 Killa-X I wont be on IRC too much tomorrow, gona be busy at the lab..
03:00 roadran422 Ok..
03:00 roadran422 Wonder what would happen...
03:00 Killa-X Gotta quarter crusher to help complete with paul xD
03:00 roadran422 Hahaha
03:00 roadran422 But can you invert a quarter, then do it again. And still have the imprint of the quarter?
03:01 tonsofpcs huh?
03:01 Killa-X not sure how you would manage to do that..?
03:02 Killa-X Seeing you can only compress..the quarter
03:02 roadran422 Idk... Paul or Chris, said that you could turn the quarter inside out!
03:02 roadran422 Lol
03:02 Killa-X if its not centered you got yourself a very low effecient coilgun
03:03 Killa-X you can make a half sphere kind of shape if you place it right, and have the power
03:03 roadran422 Ok... Then... lol
03:03 technowizard if you had a little nib of gold could Stomper make it into gold leaf?
03:03 roadran422 Lol
03:03 Killa-X http://capturedlightning.com/frames/interesting1.html
03:03 BotSteve Title: Stoneridge Engineering's Electromagnetically Shrunken Coins
03:03 Killa-X just peak through there.
03:04 roadran422 Ok...
03:05 roadran422 Those look nice! But I want one from tgg... lol
03:06 Killa-X well yeah
03:06 Killa-X im just showing what can be done with different coinage
03:06 roadran422 Could.... You... Score... Me... One... Somehow...
03:06 Killa-X er.
03:06 Killa-X i dont work that way :P
03:06 roadran422 :(
03:06 Killa-X Im gona get some made for my self, of the gold dollar coins, but at most i may consider letting a good friend of mine have one.
03:07 roadran422 :)
03:07 Killa-X its nice to SHOW people them, because they flip out over it and i can then say yeah, you can eventually get them at TGG
03:07 roadran422 ehh ehh?
03:07 Killa-X ..
03:07 roadran422 :) lol
03:07 Killa-X Fail. lol
03:07 lwq1996 my god qr codes can make me occupied for an hour
03:07 roadran422 Lol
03:07 roadran422 I want one so badly! But I don't have the money...
03:07 Killa-X heh
03:07 Killa-X i dont think he even started selling yet
03:08 roadran422 :(
03:08 roadran422 That's why I want one so badly!
03:08 Killa-X idk. i wanna see how many i can get made for my self
03:08 Killa-X i would like to get a few for my sitser and what not.
03:08 roadran422 Lol
03:08 Killa-X sister*
03:08 roadran422 I just wish I can fly in over there!
03:08 Killa-X But will see what things happen as to how many we do, etc
03:08 roadran422 Lol. What's the chance of the vessle exploding?
03:08 * Katemonster pokes exor674
03:09 Killa-X if i can only do a few its limited to me/friend. if more, me/friend/family
03:09 * exor674 bites Katemonster
03:09 Killa-X eh, idk
03:09 roadran422 Lol
03:09 Killa-X worst case the top will just give a burp
03:09 roadran422 Lol
03:09 Killa-X and maybe kick sand all over
03:09 roadran422 Be cool if the sand turned in to glass and got stuck in the vessle!
03:09 Killa-X yup :)
03:09 Killa-X will have to see what happens
03:09 roadran422 Hahaha
03:10 roadran422 I can't just wait for that to happen.
03:10 Killa-X i wont be surprised if me/paul/dan stay there till 1AM
03:10 roadran422 Lol
03:10 Killa-X last time we had a bucket of 20 quarters to shrink, we did bang after bang until 1AM
03:10 roadran422 Wow...
03:10 Killa-X its fun :P
03:10 roadran422 I'd imagine...
03:10 Killa-X and it doesnt get tiring
03:10 Killa-X each shot is like a birth of a ..... nvm
03:10 roadran422 That's why I want to be over there lol
03:11 roadran422 Did you watch chris speech. When you see the tesla coil it's like seeing a baby being born. Just less gross. Man growing up with a paramedic, after seeing 4 births. I'm never having kids xD
03:11 roadran422 Something like that haha
03:12 Killa-X lol
03:13 roadran422 lol
03:13 Killa-X ive been dealing with HV all my life so
03:13 roadran422 Hahaha
03:13 roadran422 I just like to mess around...
03:13 Killa-X to me theres not near as much wow factor with gemini as there is to someone that never seen such a thing
03:13 roadran422 Lol
03:13 Cprossu check for messages!
03:14 Cprossu nope
03:14 roadran422 .tell cprossu Hi
03:14 BotSteve Sorry, .tell is not yet implemented.  Use BotSteve: tell
03:14 roadran422 BotSteve: tell cprossu Hi
03:14 BotSteve roadran422: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
03:14 Killa-X lol
03:14 roadran422 There's your message Cprossu! :)
03:14 technowizard does anyone know if the Massachusetts chapter of TGG is still around?
03:15 Killa-X Well. I think im going to rest for awhile off the PC...Will catch you later, may pop in and out of IRC while down at the lab tomorrow
03:15 roadran422 Adios!
03:15 Killa-X cya
03:15 lwq1996 im having fun with this qr code
03:15 roadran422 lol
03:19 Cprossu BotSteve: tell roadran422 thanks?!
03:19 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when roadran422 is around.
03:19 BotSteve cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
03:19 BotSteve At 03:14Z, roadran422 asked me to tell cprossu Hi
03:19 roadran422 Hahahaha
03:19 BotSteve roadran422: I have the following messages for you:
03:19 BotSteve At 03:19Z, Cprossu asked me to tell roadran422 thanks?!
03:19 roadran422 XD
03:20 technowizard ping
03:20 roadran422 pong
03:20 roadran422 I now know what do when someone says ping xD
03:21 technowizard a dozen, a gross, and a score; plus three times the square root of four; divided by seven, plus nine times eleven, is nine squared and not a bit more ...?
03:21 roadran422 ..
03:21 roadran422 Can you use .c for that?
03:22 roadran422 .c (9*10^-501).11*10^1000
03:22 technowizard .c
03:22 BotSteve technowizard: Could not calculate. Missing terms?
03:22 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
03:22 roadran422 Lol
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03:22 technowizard .c 22/7
03:22 BotSteve 3.14285714
03:22 roadran422 Pi!
03:22 roadran422 Hi wannabe1987
03:22 wannabe1987 technowizard: were are you from?
03:22 wannabe1987 hi roadran422
03:22 * technowizard from around boston
03:22 roadran422 Hey bat-mobile
03:22 Bat-Mobile NeWtoz: greetz
03:22 Bat-Mobile hey roadran422
03:22 roadran422 Who is Bat-Mobile? Bat man?
03:23 Bat-Mobile Nope
03:23 Bat-Mobile I get that a lot.
03:23 roadran422 Oh... xD
03:23 Bat-Mobile You haven't seen me in the videos
03:23 roadran422 Bat-Mobile isn't bat man. Captain Nobe isn't Captain...
03:23 roadran422 Who else is there lol
03:23 wannabe1987 hi Bat-Mobile!!!! :D  :hug:
03:23 Bat-Mobile hey kelly!
03:23 roadran422 Dr_Jkl isn't the serial killer...
03:23 technowizard ever notice the number pattern when dividing by 7?  the first 6 digits
03:23 wannabe1987 i am the cookie maker tho
03:24 technowizard .c 1/7
03:24 BotSteve 0.142857143
03:24 technowizard .c 2/7
03:24 roadran422 Lol
03:24 BotSteve 0.285714286
03:24 technowizard .c 3/7
03:24 BotSteve 0.428571429
03:24 technowizard .c 4/7
03:24 BotSteve 0.571428571
03:24 technowizard .c 6/7
03:24 BotSteve 0.857142857
03:24 technowizard .c 5/7
03:24 BotSteve 0.714285714
03:24 roadran422 They all have 28?
03:24 roadran422 .c 7/7
03:24 BotSteve 1
03:24 roadran422 ;) xD
03:24 technowizard 285714
03:24 roadran422 Lol
03:24 technowizard 428571
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03:25 technowizard its the same pattern starting at different numbers
03:25 roadran422 Akward...
03:25 technowizard fascinating!
03:25 wannabe1987 hi eadthem!
03:25 roadran422 Lol
03:27 technowizard what i wonder is having tesla coils at those frequencies together would open up a dimension portal or something ... one at 285,714 hz, another at 571,428 hz etc
03:27 technowizard six coils in a ring then stand in the center
03:28 wannabe1987 my computer disliked the network and had to be restarted
03:28 roadran422 Hahahaa
03:28 technowizard inside a Dr. Who phone box tardis of course
03:29 roadran422 I sorta know how to solder. Just need helping hands, and a good enough stand holder... and a solder sucker
03:31 technowizard do you surface mount solder or through-hole?
03:31 roadran422 Well... Through-hole I guess
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03:31 BotSteve TOASTY!
03:32 roadran422 I don't really do sodlering. I just wanted to know how, hence I got a cheap 10 buck radioshack one
03:32 Toastdude Hi
03:32 tonsofpcs technowizard: obviously free-space wire-to-wire :-p
03:32 roadran422 Hi toastdude. Bot steve loves you :(
03:32 Toastdude What? lol
03:32 wannabe1987 hi toastdude
03:32 Toastdude Oh
03:32 wannabe1987 i love you too :D
03:32 Toastdude WANNABE!!!
03:32 Toastdude I love you too wannabe :D
03:32 wannabe1987 :D
03:32 technowizard actually free space wire to wire has given me the best results of everything i attempted to solder haha
03:32 wannabe1987 see, tgglove!
03:32 wannabe1987 just ask masterofmonks and CaptainNiobe
03:32 exor674 also... where is my screwdriver /o
03:32 technowizard simple stuff like resistor to led
03:33 * tonsofpcs teaches technowizard the linesman's splice
03:33 technowizard ?
03:33 roadran422 Ya... And resoldering wires to bored and none surface mount compnents
03:33 wannabe1987 i poked my cousin and he shanked me....WTF
03:33 wannabe1987 damn sacromenters
03:33 roadran422 LOL
03:33 * technowizard gains +1 linesman EXP  :D
03:33 roadran422 If I needed to reduce a batteries voltage from 9v to 4v what do I do
03:34 technowizard you use ohms law and get the proper resistor
03:34 roadran422 But I read online.... A resistor reduces current not voltage... o_o I'm not in to electroncis lol
03:34 Toastdude Praise the almighty Chruch of Tesla! :P
03:36 technowizard if on teh interwebs you find it, not always true does it make
03:36 technowizard sayeth yoda
03:36 roadran422 Lol
03:36 technowizard you can calculate for voltage http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp
03:36 BotSteve Title: Ohm's Law Calculators
03:36 roadran422 Do I need a regulator or resistor?
03:38 tonsofpcs technowizard: http://workmanship.nasa.gov/lib/insp/2%20books/links/sections/407%20Splices.html has it in there somewhere
03:38 BotSteve Title: 407 Splices
03:38 * wannabe1987 got spices today :D
03:38 roadran422 I just want to reduce a 9v battery down to like about 6 volts... So it doesn't chew up my battery when I use my ghetto fan
03:38 tonsofpcs basically you take two conductors that are parallel and approaching from different directions and you wrap them against each ther
03:38 tonsofpcs *each other
03:38 roadran422 Just use electrical tape..
03:40 tonsofpcs roadran422: that's an insulator.
03:40 technowizard well your fan should say how many amps or mA it uses on it, maybe
03:40 roadran422 technowizard: one second lol
03:40 tonsofpcs also, just take two cells  out of a 9v to make a 6v ;)
03:40 technowizard http://ledz.com/?p=zz.led.resistor.calculator  first calculator - supply voltage = 9 volts, 'drop across LED' (use that for your fan) 4 or 6 volts, then mA
03:40 tonsofpcs (piles if you prefer)
03:40 roadran422 Lol
03:40 BotSteve Title: LED Resistor Calculator
03:41 roadran422 Ok lol thanks! Hahahaha
03:41 technowizard then with the number of ohms for the resistor go to radio shack and get something close to it
03:41 roadran422 The fan is 10 amps? It's a mini computer fan...
03:42 tonsofpcs no.
03:42 roadran422 What? xD, JK it's 24 miliamps lol
03:42 roadran422 Wait...
03:42 roadran422 .24 amps
03:43 tonsofpcs that's 24 centiamps.
03:43 technowizard so thats i think 2400 mA?
03:43 technowizard oe 240
03:43 roadran422 If metric is used for amps, what's the american version?
03:44 technowizard instead of buying a resistor, if you have some laying around I made a calculator to find its value based on color bands http://figmentcode.com/science/rescalc.php
03:44 roadran422 Ok lol thanks xD
03:44 roadran422 Welll... How do I do the backwards of that?
03:45 technowizard um ... put a mirror in front of your screen and read from the reflection :P
03:45 roadran422 :P
03:46 technowizard play around with my calculator and the colors and you will figure it out ;)
03:46 roadran422 I got it lol
03:47 roadran422 Ok, so if i need to change 9 volts to 6 volts at 240 milliamps, then I need a 12.5 ohm resistor
03:48 roadran422 *lower
03:51 technowizard maybe a capacitor too
03:51 Obtuse woot. just got back from the lab
03:51 roadran422 I might as well just get more batteries.... LOl
03:51 roadran422 I wanted to make the fan run longer with a 9v battery...
03:51 Obtuse There is still no cooler thing than watching tesla coils in person
03:52 wannabe1987 an hour five vid?!
03:52 technowizard hm this explains ohms law better than i could or any of my previous advice http://www.ehow.com/how_4900110_reduce-voltage-resistors.html
03:52 roadran422 What?
03:52 BotSteve Title: How to Reduce Voltage With Resistors | eHow.com
03:52 roadran422 Lol
03:53 Bat-Mobile BotSteve: tell NeWtoz that I got his message - what do you mean by "how to proceed"?
03:53 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: I'll pass that on when NeWtoz is around.
03:54 Obtuse I prefer to use LM317 type devices
03:54 Obtuse to reduce voltage
04:03 roadran422 Good night all!
04:04 Toastdude Night roadran422|sleep
04:05 Toastdude Katemonster: Hi!
04:05 Katemonster hi
04:05 Toastdude V .13 of KSP is out
04:06 Bat-Mobile howdy kate
04:06 Katemonster hey steve
04:06 Katemonster sorry i've been absent
04:07 wannabe1987 its a kate!
04:08 Katemonster is it?
04:08 wannabe1987 possibly
04:08 wannabe1987 i'm going to go shower now, and theres no internet upstairs, so i'll talk to you all later!  night!
04:09 tonsofpcs oy
04:18 lwq1996 god im tired of this weight
04:19 * tonsofpcs takes the 20 kilo anvil off of lwq1996
04:19 tonsofpcs sorry, been watching too much cartoons, didn't realize it would be so annoying.
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04:29 Toastdude Jess!
04:30 Bat-Mobile you know, if you added an extra u, that would be "jesus"
04:30 Bat-Mobile Which is what I thought Toast said.
04:31 Toastdude lol, nice :P
04:31 KawaiiJess Hai Toastdude
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04:33 BotSteve TOASTY!
04:39 qwertyboy silver fulminate?
04:39 lwq1996 yes verygood
04:39 Toastdude Yep
04:39 qwertyboy i cheated
04:40 Toastdude :P
04:40 lwq1996 how so?
04:41 qwertyboy google
04:41 lwq1996 ah
04:41 qwertyboy yeppppppppppppppppp
04:41 astro73|alice .... my girlfriend says muppets are creepy.
04:41 * astro73|alice blinks in confusion
04:42 lwq1996 did she see my profile pic :P
04:43 astro73|alice thankfully, no.
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05:00 wannabe1987 hi
05:00 wannabe1987 i'm back
05:00 wannabe1987 mom was further from the router when she said the internet up here sucked :P  i'm right by the stairs.
05:00 * wannabe1987 watches the 2005 dr who christmas special
05:00 Toastdude :D
05:00 wannabe1987 hi toasty
05:01 wannabe1987 awwww my visual on this is all pixely
05:04 lwq1996 WANNABE
05:04 wannabe1987 lee!
05:04 wannabe1987 i'm hanging out witha 14 almost 15 year old.
05:04 wannabe1987 plus the rest of my family
05:04 * lwq1996 facepalm
05:04 lwq1996 oh wait
05:05 wannabe1987 well, they're all in their separate spaces now, but yeah
05:05 lwq1996 you have a family member thats turning 15?
05:05 wannabe1987 next month
05:05 lwq1996 ah
05:05 lwq1996 i thought you ment me for a sec
05:05 wannabe1987 no, my cousin
05:05 wannabe1987 he's pretty smart
05:05 lwq1996 lol
05:05 lwq1996 show him to thegeekgroup :P
05:06 wannabe1987 i might bring him by when i go next week to get the netbook fixed
05:06 lwq1996 lol
05:06 lwq1996 geoff going to fix it?
05:06 wannabe1987 who, jeff?
05:07 wannabe1987 i dunno
05:07 wannabe1987 ynos might
05:07 lwq1996 oh he spells his name jeff
05:07 wannabe1987 i assume, thats the normal spelling
05:08 lwq1996 ah
05:13 * lwq1996 gots a horrible idea but thinks its gonna be funny
05:13 lwq1996 should i loosen the bolts on my bros bed?
05:14 Toastdude ...
05:14 wannabe1987 no
05:15 lwq1996 botsteve should i loosen the bolts on my brothers bed
05:15 BotSteve No way
05:15 wannabe1987 see?
05:15 lwq1996 FUCK YOU I DO IT ANYWAY
05:15 wannabe1987 he says its bad too
05:15 wannabe1987 lol
05:15 lwq1996 @botsteve
05:16 CaptainNiobe but it's good advice BotSteve gave you, lee! :P
05:16 lwq1996 lol ik
05:16 CaptainNiobe :D
05:17 Bat-Mobile The bot knows everything
05:17 astro73|alice BotSteve: Should I go to bed?
05:17 BotSteve Maybe
05:17 astro73|alice naw. Chobits!
05:18 lwq1996 toastdude http://www.photoblip.com/ :
05:18 CaptainNiobe he does... especially when he's being intelligently human *winks*
05:18 BotSteve Title: Funny Photos | Cool Photos by PhotoBlip.com
05:18 lwq1996 :"
05:18 lwq1996 :D
05:19 Bat-Mobile CaptainNiobe: yeah, but that wasn't me
05:19 wannabe1987 hi astro :)
05:19 CaptainNiobe not, it was BotSteve :P
05:20 wannabe1987 rightttt....
05:20 * wannabe1987 played in the sand today....it was COLD
05:21 * lwq1996 played in the snow today for the first time in a while
05:21 * wannabe1987 is actually further south than Bat-Mobile
05:21 astro73|alice hi wannabe
05:22 astro73|alice i've got two free tickets to muppets, but my girl doesn't want to go and JQM hasn't answered me
05:22 wannabe1987 when is it?
05:22 wannabe1987 i was just gonna ask who jqm was, when i got it :P
05:22 astro73|alice no time. just two tickets
05:23 wannabe1987 ahhh
05:23 wannabe1987 do you want to go?
05:23 astro73|alice but celebration is only showing matinees now
05:23 astro73|alice yeah; it's a great movie
05:23 wannabe1987 seriously?
05:23 wannabe1987 no evening movies?
05:23 astro73|alice yeah
05:24 astro73|alice idk what they'll do when it goes to woodland
05:24 wannabe1987 all celebrations?
05:24 astro73|alice all of them
05:24 wannabe1987 odd
05:24 astro73|alice https://celebrationcinema.com/movie/The+Muppets
05:24 BotSteve Title: The Muppets at Celebration! Cinema
05:25 wannabe1987 strange.
05:25 astro73|alice it's a money thing
05:25 astro73|alice i'm guessing
05:25 wannabe1987 well, yes,
05:27 lwq1996 wannabe im going to loose weight :D
05:27 wannabe1987 how?
05:27 wannabe1987 and congrats :)
05:27 lwq1996 idk
05:28 wannabe1987 why?
05:28 wannabe1987 i have to as well....
05:28 lwq1996 exersice, eat right, keep track of my calorie intake with an app
05:28 wannabe1987 ahhhh
05:28 wannabe1987 theres an app for that :)
05:28 lwq1996 yes
05:28 astro73|alice there's an app for excercising?
05:28 lwq1996 lots actually
05:28 lwq1996 no
05:29 wannabe1987 theres iThings making white noise here in the room.....with apps :P
05:29 lwq1996 calorie intake and use
05:33 wannabe1987 because noise machines were forgotten on our vacation (and i for got half my meds, unless they're in the car :hmmmm:
05:35 tonsofpcs lwq1996: what would you do without a phone with apps?
05:36 wannabe1987 sms and talk :P
05:36 wannabe1987 like i do :P
05:37 tonsofpcs would he be able to talk?  I figure he uses an app for that.
05:37 wannabe1987 lol, idk
05:38 lwq1996 tonsofpcs i use an ipod
05:38 wannabe1987 do you have texting on it if you're near wifi?
05:38 lwq1996 yes
05:38 wannabe1987 number?
05:38 lwq1996 i have a texting ap
05:39 lwq1996 damnit i had it ealier let me get it
05:39 Toastdude http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlhZuZOYawE :D
05:39 BotSteve Title: YOUR GRAMMAR SUCKS #20 - YouTube
05:40 lwq1996 (281)823-7134
05:45 astro73|alice it's amazing what you can do with SMS
05:45 lwq1996 lol
05:45 tonsofpcs it is?
05:46 lwq1996 who just texted me besides toast
05:46 wannabe1987 i know....
05:46 wannabe1987 me!
05:46 tonsofpcs not I
05:46 wannabe1987 i used to google via sms
05:47 lwq1996 lol ok
05:49 astro73|alice aaand there's JQM. drinky drinky!
05:49 wannabe1987 can she go?
05:49 astro73|alice she said she's too drunk to talk
05:49 wannabe1987 o dear
05:49 wannabe1987 why's she drinking?!
05:50 lwq1996 who is
05:50 astro73|alice because she's an adult and it can be fun to drink?
05:50 lwq1996 jqm
05:50 astro73|alice lwq1996: our mutual friend
05:50 lwq1996 ah
05:50 wannabe1987 i know, but meds....whatevs
05:50 astro73|alice i'm sure she knows her stuff by now
05:50 wannabe1987 i know
05:51 astro73|alice and she's older than both of us
05:51 wannabe1987 yes, i keep forgetting that....
05:51 astro73|alice it's ok
05:51 lwq1996 lol
05:51 astro73|alice she often seems younger
05:51 wannabe1987 she' doesn't look it
05:51 wannabe1987 and that too
05:51 astro73|alice it might be her silliness
05:52 wannabe1987 could be
05:53 astro73|alice i mean, she did cosplay as a cat and sit in a box at jafax
05:54 astro73|alice also, for brewing her own ... grog, she doesn't do a lot of drinking
05:55 wannabe1987 yeah, i know....she' keeps offering me some, but i dont drink and then drive home....i'd have to be home to drink it...
05:56 astro73|alice or spending the night
05:56 wannabe1987 yes, but can't have too many of them or they'll raise her rent
05:57 astro73|alice don't worry, she keeps track of that
05:57 wannabe1987 yes, i know.
05:58 wannabe1987 she had been saving them for april....but that won't be happening anymore :/
05:58 astro73|alice yeah...
05:58 astro73|alice how is april doing?
05:58 wannabe1987 :shrug:  noone knows, she won't talk about it....all i know is she wants more therapy than she'll get, butidk how much good it will do...she's plateau'd
05:59 astro73|alice frustrated
05:59 wannabe1987 pretty much
06:01 wannabe1987 i've offered to learn to transfer her, so we can go to coffee or whatever, but she won't let me learn...I ALREADY KNOW HOW, i'm trained in that for my job, but she won't learn.
06:01 astro73|alice we should visit her or something
06:01 wannabe1987 or listen*
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06:02 wannabe1987 yes, i've been wanting to do a road trip there, but i need a day off first, or my work schedul
06:02 wannabe1987 e*
06:02 astro73|alice wait, you don't know when you're working?
06:02 wannabe1987 not for the laurels (yet).
06:02 wannabe1987 i have my sched for the home health agency
06:03 astro73|alice well, i was thinking about doing the movie thing tomorrow or friday
06:03 astro73|alice but i only have 2 tickets
06:03 wannabe1987 well, i'm stuck in sawyer till monday
06:03 wannabe1987 take jqm
06:03 astro73|alice that was my plan
06:04 wannabe1987 ok
06:04 astro73|alice yikes; that's a long ways
06:04 wannabe1987 what, sawyer?
06:05 wannabe1987 i drove here today, i mean, i have my car, but i want to hang w/ my cousins....they live in cali, so i don't get to see them often.
06:06 lwq1996 toastdude you have an ipod?
06:06 Toastdude Yes
06:06 astro73|alice wannabe: that's reasonable
06:06 wannabe1987 mhm
06:07 Toastdude why?
06:07 wannabe1987 i might take my cousin to the lab next week when i go to get my laptop fixed
06:07 lwq1996 is that the number for the ipod
06:07 astro73|alice wannabe1987: fun!
06:07 wannabe1987 yeah.  i have to ask him/his mom first tho, he's only 14
06:08 lwq1996 yay for 14year old geeks :D
06:09 lwq1996 well is he a member of the geek group?
06:09 wannabe1987 i don't know if he's a geek...
06:09 wannabe1987 i doubt it.
06:10 wannabe1987 i'd be surprised
06:10 Toastdude No Lee, my actual phone
06:10 astro73|alice why are you taking him then?
06:11 wannabe1987 because he might be interested?
06:12 wannabe1987 i haven't seen him in 2 years.  i don't know if he's a geek/nerd.  i haven't talked to him much either
06:12 astro73|alice i guess that's a valid reason
06:12 wannabe1987 and on this note i'm going to bed.
06:12 wannabe1987 i'm tired.  we went walking on dunes today and thats exhausting work :P
06:13 astro73|alice tis
06:13 astro73|alice good night wannabe1987. sleep well. *hugs*
06:13 wannabe1987 night astro :hugs:
06:13 wannabe1987 say hi to jqm for me when/if you see her
06:13 Coderjoe hahah
06:14 astro73|alice will do
06:14 Coderjoe "<roadran422> China is the place to get cheap crappy shit..."
06:14 lwq1996 how so?
06:14 Coderjoe china is also where your ipods, ipads, and android phones come from
06:15 lwq1996 not really the parts yes
06:15 Coderjoe iphones are made in a foxconn factory in china
06:15 dr_jkl .
06:15 dr_jkl who said my name
06:16 lwq1996 hi dr_jkl
06:16 dr_jkl hi
06:17 lwq1996 i thought ipods were manufactored in us
06:17 qwertyboy nope
06:17 astro73|alice what's manufactured in the US anymore?
06:17 qwertyboy the A5 processor is made in texas, though
06:19 lwq1996 ipod 4g is designed in cali
06:19 Coderjoe designed perhaps. actually constructed? no way
06:19 lwq1996 nope
06:20 Toastdude New Blender project anyone? Something a bit simple.. lol
06:21 Coderjoe Toastdude: a model of the lsl
06:21 lwq1996 how bout a bender :D
06:21 Coderjoe :P
06:21 Toastdude ...The ENTIRE lsl?
06:21 lwq1996 isl?
06:21 dr_jkl every time you call it the lsl i think of leisure suit larry.
06:21 Toastdude LSL
06:21 dr_jkl the lenoard street labs
06:21 lwq1996 oh
06:21 dr_jkl leonard*
06:22 Coderjoe wow
06:22 Coderjoe leisure suit larry... that's a title i haven't heard in awhile
06:23 lwq1996 lol
06:24 Coderjoe making me feel old
06:24 Toastdude I said simple, Coderjoe :P
06:24 lwq1996 coderjoe how old are u
06:25 Coderjoe what's more simple than a building? :D
06:25 Coderjoe 33
06:26 lwq1996 your not old
06:26 astro73|alice yes. there's no easier project than the labs...
06:26 lwq1996 lol
06:27 Coderjoe no, but kids have a way of making me feel old.
06:28 Toastdude lol
06:28 Coderjoe "phones had cords?" :P
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06:29 lwq1996 lol
06:29 lwq1996 i had one of these http://www.photoblip.com/pictures/15541/real-phones.html
06:29 BotSteve Title: Real Phones
06:30 Coderjoe i should dig out my dad's old bag phone, if i can find it
06:30 lwq1996 lol
06:31 Coderjoe actually, not quide bag... it was built like a day planner
06:32 Coderjoe mmmm
06:32 Coderjoe analog cellphones...
06:32 Coderjoe several time the transmitter power of cellpphones these days
06:33 lwq1996 lol
06:33 lwq1996 even with 4g
06:34 astro73|alice i have a phone with a cord
06:34 astro73|alice it doesn't even have a screen
06:34 lwq1996 lol
06:34 lwq1996 i have one too
06:34 astro73|alice or take batteries
06:35 lwq1996 mine doesnt even plug into the power outlet :D
06:35 astro73|alice yup!
06:35 lwq1996 :P
06:35 astro73|alice of course, i don't currently use it; i got it for the dorm
06:36 lwq1996 mines in the kitchen
06:37 astro73|alice the house has cordless
06:37 astro73|alice like 3 of them, i think
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06:46 Ponko hey everyone that is still awake
06:47 Ponko .log
06:47 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
06:47 lwq1996 hi ponko
06:48 Ponko hey lwq1996
06:48 Toastdude Hi Ponko
06:49 Ponko hey Toastdude
06:49 * Ponko thinks he said something to people but does not remember
06:50 dr_jkl goddammit mysql
06:50 dr_jkl why do you have to get all penisy on me
06:51 Ponko lol dr_jkl that reminds me of the Star Wars episode of Family Guy or blue harvest as it is called
06:53 Ponko good job kid don't get cocky Peter said that but he said Penisy :P
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06:55 lwq1996 i just remembered i need to look for a scope for my rifle :/
06:55 Bat-Mobile goodnight all
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06:55 Ponko Oh bugger
06:56 Ponko missed batty
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07:01 Ponko did i insult anyone last night?
07:01 lwq1996 only your momma!
07:02 lwq1996 sorry ponko i had too
07:03 Ponko lol but i'm being serious
07:03 Ponko i can't remember jacksh*t
07:04 Ponko i remember watching the straight jacket challenge on 92.1 THE SHARRRK with Terminator Steve
07:04 * masterofmonks pokes lwq1996
07:05 Ponko masterofmonks: did i insult anyone last night?
07:05 Ponko or say anything inappropriate
07:05 masterofmonks Hell if I know, you should probably apologize just in case.
07:06 Ponko ughhhhh my head
07:07 Ponko tell your gf she was right drinking to much hurts
07:07 masterofmonks Duh?
07:07 * Ponko looks sheepish
07:08 Ponko i fell like i've been knocked out but only this time i HAVE been drinking
07:16 tehdark45 oh hello peoples
07:17 * Ponko in his hungover state simply nods at tehdark45
07:17 tehdark45 Ponko, join AA :P
07:17 * Ponko nods in agreement
07:17 Ponko but i'm 19 we're aloud to drink too much
07:18 tehdark45 I am 19 too
07:18 Ponko well :P
07:18 tehdark45 before or after July?
07:18 Ponko march
07:18 Ponko so the former
07:18 Ponko lol
07:18 tehdark45 lolz
07:19 tehdark45 i can drink too since im in canadia
07:19 tehdark45 I lol @ the US
07:19 * Ponko has a splitting fucking headache
07:21 masterofmonks Ponko: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_zvEm1KyQ8
07:21 BotSteve Title: Epic Motorcycle FAIL - YouTube
07:22 Ponko can't watch youtube right now
07:22 tehdark45 Ponko, advil?
07:23 Ponko what about CoAdvil?
07:24 tehdark45 Take it?
07:24 * Ponko takes it
07:24 tehdark45 there
07:24 tehdark45 hangover solved
07:24 tehdark45 :P
07:26 * masterofmonks starts playing the 1812 overature with cannons next to Ponko
07:26 Ponko ughhhh piss off
07:26 lwq1996 im going off
07:26 Ponko laters lwq1996
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07:47 Ponko hmm
07:57 tehdark45 hmm
08:00 Toastdude mhm
08:01 tehdark45 It is the toast
08:01 Toastdude Yes.
08:01 Toastdude Hi
08:02 masterofmonks Toastdude: ever seen sulfuric acid carbonize sugars?
08:02 Toastdude ..Can't say that I have, really...
08:03 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqDHwd9rG0s
08:03 BotSteve Title: Sugar Snake: Sulfuric Acid and Sugar - YouTube
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08:04 Toastdude Wow, that's pretty neat
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08:31 sndwrx well.
08:31 sndwrx .w
08:31 BotSteve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing
08:31 sndwrx oops.
08:34 sndwrx HAHA leisure suit larry
08:35 sndwrx phew, at least i'm not the only one who remembers such things.
08:35 sndwrx That was back in the day when computer games were actually good.
08:35 * sndwrx snickers.
08:36 masterofmonks Pffft.
08:38 sndwrx It's true.
08:38 sndwrx ;grins.
08:38 * sndwrx grins.
08:38 masterofmonks I would disagree that that game was good.
08:39 Toastdude Hi sndwrx
08:39 sndwrx hey Toastdude
08:39 sndwrx what's up?
08:39 sndwrx You guys enjoy the TGG party stream?
08:39 Toastdude Yep
08:40 sndwrx oh yeah?
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08:51 Ponko hmmm that was fun
08:54 Hackbat ohh this is a baad idea
08:54 Ponko ?
08:54 Ponko well i thought that when drunk that first Jager Monster
08:54 Ponko and it was
08:54 * Hackbat plans to watch a movie that scared the shit out of him when he was a kid
08:55 masterofmonks What movie?
08:55 Hackbat Trio of terror II
08:55 masterofmonks Never heard of it.
08:56 masterofmonks Hmm a Boris Karloff movie.
08:56 * Ponko hasn't heard of it either
08:57 masterofmonks At least it's not Plan 9 from outer Space
09:34 Hackbat well....
09:34 Hackbat that wasn't scary all in all
09:34 Hackbat 1996 movie effects and such
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09:58 * Ponko feels a little better
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10:36 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/gallery/ckDNQ <--- so freaking harsh!
10:36 BotSteve Title: Taste Buds - Imgur
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11:32 Electricguy seriously, how can Ustream totally floor a 3GHz P4 with HT? o_O
11:36 masterofmonks Sgt_Lemming: http://i.imgur.com/PrmuA.jpg
11:36 Sgt_Lemming lol
11:48 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6UA8726fjk
11:48 BotSteve Title: Jim Carrey - Stand-up show - Unnatural Act (Osa 1/3) - YouTube
11:49 NeWtoz BatSteve-Away,
11:49 BotSteve newtoz: I have the following messages for you:
11:49 BotSteve At 03:53Z, Bat-Mobile asked me to tell newtoz that I got his message - what do you mean by "how to proceed"?
11:49 NeWtoz .seen BatSteve-Away
11:49 BotSteve NeWtoz: I last saw Bat-Mobile 4.90 hours ago at 2011-12-29 06:55:33 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 11:49:32 UTC
11:49 BotSteve NeWtoz: I last saw Bot-Mobile 205.27 hours ago at 2011-12-20 22:33:21 UTC on #tgg-bots.
11:49 BotSteve NeWtoz: I last saw BatSteve-Away 294.55 hours ago at 2011-12-17 05:16:48 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
11:49 BotSteve NeWtoz: I last saw Farts-Mobile 437.87 hours ago at 2011-12-11 05:57:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.
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12:18 Seroster Right. Douches. Who was it.
12:18 Ponko what?
12:19 Seroster Someone was using my nick
12:19 CaptainNiobe sero, no one can use your nick if it's registered...
12:20 Seroster Yes they can
12:21 CaptainNiobe they can only use it for about 30 seconds or so, after that, unless they know the password, it's changed...
12:22 Seroster Yes they can
12:22 Seroster I can wait more than 30, wich means that someone else can wait more than 30
12:22 Ponko .log
12:22 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
12:23 Ponko instead of airing your anger on us check there
12:28 Seroster ARRRRR
12:42 Electricguy outside my house www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
12:48 killakee^away do you have storm outside since you have cam outside ?
12:49 Electricguy really windy and fucked weather
12:49 killakee^away ah .. we had that yeasterday ... in a BIG way ..
12:50 killakee^away http://www.dealextreme.com/feedbacks/BrowseReviews.dx/sku.65990
12:50 BotSteve Title: DealExtreme: Reviews for DS-203 3.0" LCD Pocket Mini Oscilloscope
12:50 killakee^away what you think
12:50 killakee^away ?
12:51 Electricguy looks a lot like the DSO quad
12:52 killakee is it enny good ?
12:52 killakee or just crap ?:)
12:52 Electricguy it's pretty good
12:52 killakee good
12:52 Electricguy it IS a DSO Quad with another housing color... lol
12:52 killakee hehe
12:52 Electricguy http://www.electrokit.com/dso-quad-oscilloskop-logikanalysator-i-fickstorlek-4-kan.48783
12:52 BotSteve Title: DSO Quad oscilloskop/logikanalysator i fickstorlek 4 kan | Electrokit
12:53 killakee have you got one of thouse or something ?
12:53 Electricguy in swedsish, but yeh
12:53 Electricguy you get the idea
12:53 Electricguy swedish*
12:53 Electricguy keep in mind that 2 of the channels are slow
12:53 killakee im norwegian so yeah i get the idea ;)
12:53 Electricguy suitable for TTL logics and stuff
12:53 Electricguy and then you have 2 full range channels
12:54 killakee ok... im not doing something werry complicated with it ...
12:54 Electricguy hehee ok :P
12:54 killakee but it shure be nice to have a osilo :P
12:54 Electricguy it'll probably do fine :)
12:54 killakee good.. thankyou
13:06 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8zlUUrFK-M epic win
13:06 BotSteve Title: Jurassic Park theme song. - YouTube
13:08 killakee :)
13:20 roadran422|sleep Hello
13:24 killakee hello :)
13:29 killakee does ennyone know how many turns a secondary in an nst is?
13:29 killakee maybe a dumb question
13:31 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5zboV3_9KY&amp;feature=related don't need to say anything lol
13:31 BotSteve Title: Shoot her, SHOOT HER! - YouTube
13:33 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlAQZB9Ng&amp;feature=related here's one for the Unix geeks lol
13:33 BotSteve Title: It's a Unix system - YouTube
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13:44 wannabe-zz Ponko: all i rmember you saying is you drunk too much
13:44 wannabe-zz i think you behaved
13:44 Ponko good
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13:59 Ponko are you achin'
13:59 Ponko yup yup yup
13:59 Ponko for some bacon
13:59 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBE_T-K8nhY
13:59 BotSteve Title: The Hula Song - YouTube
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14:38 tgg|yNos hello all
14:38 CaptainNiobe g'day yNos :)
14:39 Electricguy hrmm... why is it so hard to make a camera wallmount from scrap parts??! -,-
14:39 tgg|yNos hows it going?
14:40 CaptainNiobe not too bad, ynos... yourself?
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14:40 Electricguy heys tgg|yNos
14:41 tgg|yNos not bad, am here trying to get some stuff squared out before people get here.
14:42 CaptainNiobe sounds busy... :)
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14:50 * wannabe-zz broke her phone :/
14:51 * wannabe1987 had bacon for breakfast :D
14:51 CaptainNiobe ? how did that happen?
14:51 mashpriborintorg hiya
14:51 CaptainNiobe hey mash :)
14:51 wannabe1987 i don't know
14:52 wannabe1987 the screen cracked and now its bleeding stuff
14:52 wannabe1987 so i have to contact the group that pays for my phone/minutes, see if i can get a new one
14:52 CaptainNiobe was it dropped onto something?
14:52 wannabe1987 no, but it was in a pocket w/ my camera, a pen, and my wallet
14:53 CaptainNiobe while you were sitting down?
14:53 wannabe1987 no, in my jacket pocket
14:53 wannabe1987 its like a zip up sweatshirt
14:54 CaptainNiobe ahh... well that shouldn't have done anything unless there was pressure put on the screen, ie, it was knocked pretty hard...
14:54 wannabe1987 yeah, i know
14:54 wannabe1987 theres a gamecube here :D
14:55 CaptainNiobe lol
14:55 mashpriborintorg If the phone is worth something, see if you can find an OEM replacement screen from ebay, it cost almost nothing, direct from China
14:55 wannabe1987 its a dumbphone, so worth nothing....i got it for free, too
14:55 CaptainNiobe lol... dumbphone... haven't heard that term before lol
14:56 wannabe1987 lol
14:56 wannabe1987 its sms and voice only
14:56 killakee^away in a step up transformer does 100:1 turn ratsio sound right ?
14:56 CaptainNiobe they still make them? :P
14:56 mashpriborintorg and one line lcd screen :p
14:57 mashpriborintorg as my trusty ericsson 1018 had
14:58 SparkyProjects Step up would be 1:100 if you want to be specific killakee^away
14:59 wannabe1987 yes, they still do.  the gov't pays for the phone and the minutes....i'm happy with what i got.  but i'm trying to get a diff phone from the company
14:59 mashpriborintorg yay I got new tools: bolt cutter, wire strippers, vice pliers and bits holder
14:59 wannabe1987 awesome
14:59 wannabe1987 where?
14:59 mashpriborintorg from the tools from
15:00 mashpriborintorg shop
15:00 wannabe1987 ah
15:00 killakee^away hehe ofcourse ;)
15:01 mashpriborintorg and found almost one kilo of new bolts in a garbage bin, what a waste, throwing away unused stuff
15:01 killakee^away i wounder how many turns there are in a nst secondary XD
15:02 SparkyProjects If you can find out how many turns are in the primary, you can work out the secondary
15:02 killakee ah
15:02 killakee i c
15:03 SparkyProjects You'll find info and equations here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformer
15:03 BotSteve Title: Transformer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
15:04 mashpriborintorg first time ever I try vice pliers, that thing is awesome, so usefull
15:05 mashpriborintorg there are the eco priced ones at 3,95 euro, but they seem to do the job
15:05 wannabe1987 .in 20min sports
15:05 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 15:25Z
15:10 killakee argh .. my nst gets so bloddy warm :/
15:11 killakee is that normal ?
15:13 Ponko yes
15:15 killakee oh..
15:15 killakee so there is no cure for that ?
15:15 killakee doh...
15:20 killakee think of this ?
15:20 killakee http://www.ebay.com/itm/100kV-DC-high-voltage-power-supply-tesla-coil-/320819422082?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4ab253e382#ht_1198wt_1139
15:20 BotSteve Title: 100kV DC high voltage power supply tesla coil | eBay
15:23 Electricguy put the NST in a box
15:24 Electricguy drill holes right around the NST in the bottom of the box and then put a fan in the top of the box. right above the NST
15:24 Electricguy and let the fan suck air in from the bottom, around the NST and out the top
15:24 killakee ill do that :)
15:24 Electricguy :)
15:24 Electricguy i did that with my MOT. works good
15:25 killakee but i have to get a mote powerful suply too
15:25 Electricguy xray trafo
15:25 killakee im only att 6kv and 38ma
15:25 killakee xray trafo XD
15:25 killakee hehe
15:25 BotSteve wannabe1987: sports
15:26 wannabe-afk thanks BotSteve
15:26 BotSteve You're welcome, wannabe-afk
15:26 killakee im in norway .. i think you get in jail just for selling one XD
15:26 Electricguy i don't think so :P
15:26 Electricguy it's just a bad ass HV trafo.. :P
15:26 killakee yeah.. but getting one i dont think i easy ..
15:27 killakee geting a nst here was like seling an arm and an eye
15:27 Electricguy lol
15:27 Electricguy a big xray trafo would be fun to have...
15:28 Electricguy http://tesladownunder.com/HVXray60Whole_small.jpg
15:28 killakee oh yeah
15:28 killakee i know
15:28 killakee ;)
15:28 Electricguy that one is 3 phase... XD
15:28 Electricguy 60kV 300mA
15:28 killakee been there drueld that ;)
15:28 mashpriborintorg I saw a panoramic radiography thing in a dental cabinet... I would dream to take it apart
15:28 Electricguy 240V 45A 3 pahse in... XD
15:28 killakee omg
15:29 killakee bet that makes a heck of an tc powersuply XD
15:30 Electricguy yeah :P
15:31 Electricguy 18kW... XD
15:32 killakee hehe
15:32 mashpriborintorg unloading such a transfo from the car trunk must be a reail pain tho
15:33 killakee yeah but worth it .. omg soooo worth it :)
15:33 Electricguy that's why every serious TC builder own a forklift :P
15:33 Electricguy that beast is _only_ 300kg.. XD
15:33 mashpriborintorg One day, I found a copy machine on the pavement. I stopped the car, loaded the thing in the car, and then left
15:34 killakee :)
15:34 mashpriborintorg And came the time to unload it... omg impossible, I son't know how I was able to load it
15:34 mashpriborintorg had to take it apart in situ
15:34 Electricguy lol
15:35 mashpriborintorg it was nearly occupied all the size of the trunk, almost no space for screwdrivers :p
15:36 Electricguy hehe
15:36 Electricguy damnit... i want a DSO
15:37 Electricguy wanna figure out the bitrate, stopbits and that crap on a adapter box i got for a media player
15:37 Electricguy it got 20 inputs and then it squirts it out as serial data to the player
15:37 Electricguy it's a DATAVIDEO CP-100 player
15:37 Electricguy and a RMC-60 adapter box
15:38 Ponko damn i feel like i'm gonna barf but can't
15:38 Electricguy would be fun to hook the adapter to an arduino or something
15:39 Electricguy brb
15:43 Electricguy back
15:43 Electricguy it may be 9600 Baud N,8,1
15:43 Electricguy pretty much standard
15:44 Coderjoe for video? not likely
15:44 Electricguy no, for kiosk input control of a media player
15:45 Coderjoe oh
15:45 Electricguy it's a external adater box with 20 inputs to select tracks on a CD
15:45 Electricguy that adapter gives serial out
15:45 Electricguy some PIC based thing
15:48 Electricguy huh.. no it's an Atmel based thing
15:48 Electricguy the other one i popped open was PIC based
15:49 Electricguy the CPU is a AT89C1051U-12PC
15:49 Coderjoe an avr
15:49 Electricguy woah
15:49 Electricguy it's 20 yeard old
15:50 Electricguy gonna hook it to a COM port and see what it does
16:00 Coderjoe https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/378083_294557460590385_236124369767028_899970_1787452461_n.jpg
16:03 Electricguy LOLOLOLOL XD
16:04 Electricguy hrm.. what comes out from the box surely doesn't look like regular serial data on the scope
16:04 Electricguy maybe it's some custom shit
16:04 * Experimentonomen makes noise in 2 ohms with a poweramp with a 300VA trafo in it
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16:39 roadran422 Hola
16:48 mashpriborintorg hi, the chat is pretty dead for now
16:51 roadran422 Yah... I can see xD
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17:03 Ponko Dodgson, DODGSON, WE'VE GOT DODGSON HERE
17:03 Ponko see nobody cares
17:04 roadran422 Hi
17:04 roadran422 Ponko
17:04 Ponko hello
17:04 roadran422 Are you related to ponokeo?
17:05 Ponko eh?
17:05 roadran422 I mean Pinokio
17:05 Ponko you mean Pinocchio
17:05 Ponko no i'm not
17:05 roadran422 Yes... The puppet guy lol
17:05 Ponko no
17:05 roadran422 lOL
17:06 Ponko what a strange question
17:06 Ponko lol
17:07 roadran422 lol
17:07 roadran422 .tell
17:07 BotSteve Sorry, .tell is not yet implemented.  Use BotSteve: tell
17:07 roadran422 Botsteve: tell Seroster I said hi
17:07 BotSteve roadran422: I'll pass that on when Seroster is around.
17:07 roadran422 Botsteve: Tell Botsteve I said Hi
17:07 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
17:08 Rahlon :D
17:08 roadran422 Lol
17:08 Ponko lmao
17:08 roadran422 sorry Botsteve
17:08 BotSteve Yeah, yeah, whatever
17:08 roadran422 xD
17:08 roadran422 Die botsteve
17:09 Rahlon we love you botsteve
17:09 roadran422 lol
17:09 Rahlon :( he ignores me
17:09 Rahlon forever alone
17:09 roadran422 Hahahah
17:09 Ponko well be glad you're not ronery
17:09 roadran422 haha
17:10 Rahlon lol
17:10 roadran422 n:  he ignores me
17:10 roadran422 (12:09:07 PM) Rahlon: forever alone
17:10 roadran422 (12:09:15 PM) roadran422: Hahahah
17:10 roadran422 (12:09:26 PM) xanhs left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 258 seconds).
17:10 roadran422 (12:09:27 PM) Ponko: well be glad you're not ronery
17:10 roadran422 (12:09:44 PM) roadran422: haha
17:10 roadran422 (12:09:53 PM) Rahlon: lol
17:13 mashpriborintorg I saw a Moose
17:15 roadran422 Nice ....
17:15 Rahlon part of me wants to say "ghostcrawler promised me a moose" but I dunno how many would get the joke :P
17:17 Ponko oh no
17:18 Seroster LOL
17:18 BotSteve seroster: I have the following messages for you:
17:18 BotSteve At 17:07Z, roadran422 asked me to tell seroster I said hi
17:18 Seroster ... Thats creepy
17:18 Seroster Btw
17:18 roadran422 xd
17:18 roadran422 xD
17:19 Seroster A friend of a friend asked me on facebook - "Can you fix my computer?"
17:19 roadran422 Seroster... Can I ask a favor?
17:19 Rahlon oh dear
17:19 Seroster Yeah, that's what she said.
17:19 Seroster roadran422, you can always as.
17:19 roadran422 Can the word pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcaniosis be the word of the day!
17:19 Seroster No it cant.
17:19 roadran422 But why! :(
17:20 mashpriborintorg Seroster that's awful, I had a paper in my mailbox, from the waste management company, putting electronic devices in the junk is now officially forbidden
17:20 roadran422 Lol
17:20 Seroster They caught you?
17:20 mashpriborintorg they must be returned to the shop or put in collection centers
17:21 Seroster Put a sign next to the bin - "got electric junk? I pick it up for free! call 555trashman"
17:21 mashpriborintorg they didn't caught me, they send the paper to a few hunbdreds of thousand people :p
17:21 roadran422 That is a great word for today :)
17:21 roadran422 lol
17:21 Seroster I did that, and that made me a thousand bucks of copper
17:21 roadran422 o_o
17:21 mashpriborintorg it means no more things to pick up
17:22 Seroster ^
17:22 mashpriborintorg I don't want to end up with dozens of old CRTs in my living room either :p
17:22 mashpriborintorg gf would not approve
17:23 Seroster Lol
17:23 Seroster We got electric trash outside. So I got from people, stripped and threw out
17:23 Seroster Hence... My thrityish mots. =P
17:23 Seroster Scrapped a dozen of them
17:24 mashpriborintorg now they're fitted with aluminium wire most the time, not worth anymore
17:25 Seroster The yolk and degauss wires are at least a kilogram in a decent crtv
17:25 tonsofpcs yoke
17:26 tonsofpcs also, who wants the CRT from my place when I toss it?
17:26 tonsofpcs 24inch-ish
17:26 tonsofpcs the flyback is screwed up and I don't want to deal with it when it finally goes
17:27 Seroster 3 pounds of copper and 40pounds of doorstop
17:27 tonsofpcs hey, it could make a nice aquarium! (well, the 1lb of plastic could...)
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17:29 Seroster Yeah...
17:29 Seroster They are not made to be aquariums
17:29 Seroster they aint tight
17:30 mashpriborintorg anyway I'm fed up of consumer craptronics, I wanna take apart more serious stuff
17:30 Seroster Oh god
17:31 tonsofpcs the plastic shell, not the glass :)
17:31 tonsofpcs drop in a glass aquarium behind it
17:31 Seroster Neither are suitable
17:31 Seroster Yeah, and how do you make that look nice?
17:31 Seroster You need to have it square up agains the screen
17:32 tonsofpcs and?
17:32 * KB3NZQ_Biostar gives Seroster a hearty slap
17:32 tonsofpcs dremel to cut out pieces where needed, caulk to make a smooth-looking 'seal'
17:32 KB3NZQ_Biostar tonsofpcs, did you get my message on irc
17:32 tonsofpcs this is IRC...
17:33 Seroster Good luck with that tonsofpcs =)
17:33 KB3NZQ_Biostar from a few days ago
17:33 tonsofpcs Seroster: I don't want to do it, I have no use for fish.
17:33 Seroster I could have guppys
17:33 tonsofpcs although I do have a friend with a turtle... might look interesting with the turtle lamp inside too
17:33 Seroster Like, chips for the cat =)
17:34 tonsofpcs heh
17:34 KB3NZQ_Biostar i guess not merry christmass
17:34 tonsofpcs feliz navidad
17:34 KB3NZQ_Biostar happy new year
17:34 KB3NZQ_Biostar it kame from KB3NZQ-BeckleyWV
17:34 tonsofpcs prospero ano nuevo (Yea, I don't have a spanish keyboard set up here)
17:34 KB3NZQ_Biostar lol
17:35 tonsofpcs http://www.markertek.com/Racks-Cases/Equipment-Rackmounts/Quik-Lok/AMS-RS-513-AM.xhtml << interesting cute little rack
17:35 KB3NZQ_Biostar well BBL have stuff to do
17:35 BotSteve Title: Quik Lok Quik Lok RS-513 Straight 14 Space Rack Stand Base Unit Supplied with Casters Equipment Rackmounts at Markertek.com
17:36 * technowizard waves hand ... there are not the droids you're looking for
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17:40 * tonsofpcs needs to find a decent wall-mount lockable rack for patchbays and switches (ethernet)
17:43 Coderjoe use a square D breaker panel!
17:43 Coderjoe (though square D does make other enclsures, iirc, in defense of the 66block incident
17:44 Coderjoe is there video of this 66block incident?
17:46 MoxieMike what is the 66block incident?
17:53 Coderjoe someone used a squareD breaker panel box as a cabinet to house 66 blocks
17:53 Coderjoe in the old building wiring
17:53 Coderjoe also, were they split 66 or normal?
17:53 tonsofpcs hi
17:53 mashpriborintorg It is in one of the older Captains blog iirc
17:54 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: I don't know if it was in the videos.  It wasn't in a squareD panel box
17:54 Coderjoe last night someone said it was
17:54 tonsofpcs it was inside a pillar in the office area, the panel box was removed but the cover and framing were there.
17:54 tonsofpcs I highly doubt that it was square-D by the design and age of the box.
17:54 tonsofpcs there was one 'full size' 66 block and two of the 'modern' ones.
17:55 tonsofpcs and a jumble of phone wire blocking them but only about 10 things punched total iirc.
17:59 Coderjoe at my office, the building was wired with a bell key system, and has 25-pair cable running who-knows-where, and has some 66 and a couple 110 blocks behind a cupboard door. there were a lot more of them, but a bunch got ripped out when the owner had the electrical service split between the front and rear halves of the building (as that is where the breaker box is as well)
18:00 Coderjoe most of the blocks have the tail of a couple 25-pair cables tied to them, punched down, but then cut off just after coming out the bottom
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18:00 qwertyboy hello
18:01 SparkyProjects Hi
18:06 tonsofpcs 25 pair? ha! We're in an old school, we have 200 - 300 pairs coming in from the street.  Seriously, you know those giant black fold-over junction boxes you see on the lines? yea, we have one of those in the basement.
18:07 tonsofpcs oh, and because of the change of phone companies over the years, there are multiple demarcs.
18:07 tonsofpcs like, all the lines go to one huge demarc, then from that demarc a good portion go to another demarc, then about 75-100 of those go to another demarc, where 3 are used.
18:11 Coderjoe well, there is a telco post at the side of the building with two big cable bundles coming to it
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18:25 leepod hi
18:25 wannabe-afk hi lee :D
18:26 leepod kelly :D
18:26 wannabe1987 hows leepod
18:27 leepod had a good sleep!!!!!
18:27 wannabe1987 good!
18:28 leepod havent had that good of sleep in a while
18:28 wannabe1987 :)
18:30 Electricguy i got a pair of big CCD cameras hooked up to my stream now :)
18:30 Electricguy with a slightly modded video/audio controller
18:31 wannabe1987 hi Electricguy
18:31 Electricguy hi hi wannabe1987 :)
18:31 wannabe1987 hows you?
18:32 Electricguy pretty damn good :P
18:32 Electricguy and you?
18:32 wannabe1987 good!
18:32 wannabe1987 doing well
18:32 Electricguy nice! :)
18:32 wannabe1987 going to play on the dunes later :D
18:33 Electricguy sounds nice :)
18:33 wannabe1987 mhm
18:33 Electricguy brb!
18:34 wannabe1987 my cousins are out there now i think, at 2:30 we're going out as agroup
18:34 leepod your going to tgg with the family
18:34 wannabe1987 no...
18:34 wannabe1987 the dunes
18:35 wannabe1987 sand dunes ?
18:35 wannabe1987 BIG HILLS OF SAND
18:35 leepod ik wat dunes are
18:36 wannabe1987 ok
18:36 leepod you forget im on an ipod
18:36 wannabe1987 lol
18:36 wannabe1987 probably
18:36 wannabe1987 you're not fast yet :)
18:36 leepod č
18:36 leepod damnit!
18:36 wannabe1987 o.o
18:37 Electricguy back
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18:37 leepod well now ik i can text in french
18:37 wannabe1987 sweet
18:37 wannabe1987 hi injektion
18:38 injektion Hi
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18:41 wannabe1987 how are you?
18:41 injektion I'm going to get some cognac later
18:43 wannabe1987 why?
18:43 wannabe1987 need more alcohol?
18:43 wannabe1987 or something more?
18:44 injektion Need more
18:44 injektion I also need something to do
18:44 wannabe1987 so you're going to drink?
18:44 Electricguy yeyy! :D i'll get my new Arduino and the screw terminal protoshield tomorrow! :3
18:45 Electricguy *megusta.jpg*
18:45 wannabe1987 cool
18:45 injektion Yes
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18:45 Electricguy so now when i have 2 Arduinos i'm going to try the I/O expansion thing with them :P
18:46 Electricguy using one as a master and the other one as a slave and get them to talk over I2C
18:46 ajcc hey, guys, they're doing something with stomper on the live stream/security cameras. looks like they're going to stand it upright
18:46 wannabe1987 cool
18:46 injektion I don't have anything to do today so I am going to punish my liver
18:46 ajcc is it this weekend they're going to finish stomper?
18:47 wannabe1987 sounds like a horrible thing to do to your liver, injektion
18:48 SparkyProjects ajcc that's the plan, Kidwell is there
18:48 injektion wannabe1987, after the first drink it's not so bad
18:48 wannabe1987 you can do that...i'll go play in the sand in about 1/2 hour....
18:50 SparkyProjects ajcc: If you're watching the stream, camera 7 looks like they are getting ready to stand the containment vessel upright
18:50 ajcc SparkyProjects: I'm watching the stream, I had to join because I saw stomper in the corner
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18:51 injektion Hmm I wonder where angy is
18:52 ajcc aw, they're out of frame :(
18:53 mashpriborintorg joined #thegeekgroup
18:53 injektion Fuck
18:53 injektion I should of gone to TGG this week
18:53 SparkyProjects That's going to be fun getting the containment vessel to HVL, a trip outside to the wheelchair ramp, and the vessel is top heavy
18:54 mashpriborintorg and the big cracks in the ramps, not repaired yet I bet
18:54 ajcc SparkyProjects: oh, it seemed like the decided to take it outside while it was still on it's side
18:54 SparkyProjects Doubt it :P
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18:55 SparkyProjects Might be best ajcc
18:55 ajcc is the generator next to the demonstration hall port/big door?
18:56 killakee i wounder if the weels on that think will hold XD
18:56 killakee thing
18:58 ajcc heh, it's kinda heavy!, but they did get even bigger ones that should hold, it's just so top-heavy, it might fall/fail on either side
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18:58 killakee oh that would be werry bad ...
18:59 SparkyProjects Yes, the generator is next to the big door
18:59 Electricguy some pics of the CCD camera in my lab and the video controller i modded earlier http://imgur.com/a/Q18bf
18:59 BotSteve Title: EG's composite video system - Imgur
19:00 Electricguy the screen on the controller comes from a rear view camera system
19:00 Electricguy and it's internally connected in the controller
19:01 ajcc Electricguy: neat!, what are you recording onto?
19:02 Electricguy streaming! :)
19:02 Electricguy www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
19:02 Electricguy got one more camera to look outside my house. but it's too dark for that atm
19:02 ajcc does ustream record it as justin does?
19:02 Electricguy if i want to
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19:03 Electricguy right now it's only live stream
19:03 Electricguy and just to make geeks approve. the screen is mounted with HOT GLUE! XD
19:03 ajcc is that a reel-to-reel on the top shelf?
19:03 Electricguy on the first pic?
19:03 ajcc yes
19:03 Electricguy ahh, nah it's a little megger :)
19:04 Electricguy from 1967 XD
19:04 Electricguy NOS
19:04 ajcc megger?
19:04 wannabe1987 .log
19:04 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
19:04 Electricguy got the manual and an extra shoulder strap with it too :P
19:04 Electricguy HV supply for ground isolation testing
19:05 ajcc hm, the grey thing in the top-left corner?
19:06 ajcc oh, weird colors and spaced out things happening
19:07 wannabe1987 i smell saute'd garlic and oninions :D  YUM
19:07 Electricguy hahaha XD
19:08 Electricguy top left corner?
19:08 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 12-28-11 One Year http://youtu.be/Ax7erAHNEug
19:08 ajcc yeah, the shelf over the video thinngy, there's a  couple of grey things
19:08 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve :)
19:08 BotSteve No problem, wannabe1987
19:09 Electricguy in whitch of the pics?
19:09 Electricguy wich*
19:09 Electricguy which*
19:09 Electricguy damnit...
19:09 ajcc the live stream
19:09 Electricguy oh!
19:10 Electricguy uhm. need to check the stream myself... XD
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19:11 Electricguy do you mean the rack?
19:11 Electricguy that's the only grey thing up in the left corner that i can see... XD
19:11 KB3NZQ_Biostar tggmc, tgg|ajprog, tgg|yNos  could one of you please switch the camrea to what the captian and kidwell are working
19:11 KB3NZQ_Biostar on
19:12 ajcc hey, stomper is upright!
19:14 Coderjoe something keeps freaking out motion detection on 3
19:14 wannabe1987 hi joe
19:14 Coderjoe hi
19:15 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell sndwrx http://www.howsweeteats.com/2011/12/hot-cheesy-roasted-red-pepper-dip/  is this like his dip?
19:15 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when sndwrx is around.
19:15 BotSteve Title: Hot + Cheesy Roasted Red Pepper Dip. | How Sweet It Is
19:17 ajcc Electricguy: http://imgur.com/rOENz does that work?, didn't know anyone could upload too those sites without an account, creepy
19:17 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
19:17 wannabe1987 lol
19:17 Electricguy ahh
19:17 Electricguy that's a unigor multimeter :)
19:18 ajcc oh
19:18 Electricguy Goertz Metrawatt UNIGOR A40
19:18 ajcc is it a camera next to it?
19:19 Electricguy no, that's a bag of pots and a Kyoritsu model 1601 multimeter :)
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19:20 ajcc oh
19:21 injektion Boxed water hmmm
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19:46 killakee wohooo.. a captainsblog :D
19:52 Electricguy yepp :P
19:52 Electricguy i like the guy in the beginning XD
19:56 mashpriborintorg yay, Stomper is up on its wheels
19:56 Electricguy yeah :)
20:01 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/qZ8Nu
20:01 BotSteve Title: powerboard - Imgur
20:05 ajcc hehe, Joe on making the man-lift safer: At least the yellow paint helps a little. xD
20:06 ajcc Experimentonomen: what's that power board for?
20:08 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by TheGeekGroup.  New videos: Call to Action: Help Us Recover Stolen Property http://youtu.be/hA49OQmFsiE
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20:16 producerBillWork anyone else watching the live stream?
20:21 Electricguy i am
20:21 ajcc moose is machining something and people are working on stomper
20:22 producerBillWork do they know that have an open mic?
20:22 ajcc ?
20:22 producerBillWork I heard them drilling, and hammering not long ago
20:23 ajcc oh
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20:23 Experimentonomen ajcc, its a wip for a power and protection board for use in audio amplifiers
20:23 Coderjoe personally, I would love them to leave an open mic more often
20:23 Electricguy about that stolen property vid. i SO hope that someone hunts it down and brings it back!
20:23 producerBillWork that would be nice
20:24 producerBillWork we will have to see what we can do about mic and what not
20:24 Ponko http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=2742340551464&set=a.1094603759074.16564.1045966147&type=3&theater wow just wo
20:24 BotSteve Title: Welcome to Facebook - Log In, Sign Up or Learn More
20:25 producerBillWork I would how hard it would be to build some simple room mics?
20:25 Electricguy condenser mics with a lot of gain should do
20:25 Electricguy but be sure to use REALLY low noise preamps
20:27 producerBillWork ya,,, I was just thinking of a way to make cheep mics that we could hang in every room
20:27 Coderjoe except for the fact that the audio interface would be expensive, it would be awesome to have a bunch of condensers into a computer so the mix can be controlled remotely
20:27 producerBillWork hummmm
20:27 Electricguy a condenser mic and a NE5534 OP amp maybe
20:27 Electricguy and run phantom power
20:27 Electricguy to feed the OP amp too
20:28 Electricguy or run it balanced and have the preamps on a remote loaction
20:28 leepod mmmm egg nog
20:28 ajcc phantom power is just a DC-voltage on the AC-audio lines, it's stupid simple.
20:28 producerBillWork humm
20:29 leepod anyone got a good recipy for egg nog
20:29 Coderjoe typically +48vdc on both audio lines (relative to the ground line)
20:29 Ponko leepod do i have to direct you to google? ;) lol
20:29 producerBillWork i was think none powered
20:30 producerBillWork think very simple
20:30 Electricguy maybe you could use a custom system with like 24V single rail as phantom power. and then a resistor divider on the OP amp in the preamp
20:30 Coderjoe condensers are very sensitive but require power
20:30 leepod i mean ones that people actualy tried and that are good Ponko
20:30 Electricguy ok, passive mics with high gain
20:30 Electricguy absolutely a balanced system
20:30 producerBillWork ya something like that
20:30 Electricguy maybe even a floating balaced. then you only need 2 wires
20:31 Ponko you tried facebook leepod?
20:31 leepod not yet ponko
20:31 ajcc floating balanced?
20:31 Electricguy yepp
20:31 Electricguy no ground
20:31 producerBillWork ya simple something we could build from mouser and mount a ton in the celling
20:31 Electricguy just plus and minus
20:32 producerBillWork Bug the geek group
20:32 leepod i was hoping someone here would know a good recipy
20:32 producerBillWork lol
20:32 ajcc hmm, I see, but you'll need transformers to do that
20:32 Ponko well try there and ignore the people who direct you to google leepod
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20:32 leepod lol
20:33 Electricguy ahh yeah. trafos..
20:33 Electricguy betyter go with a regular balanced system
20:33 Electricguy you can read some about it here http://sound.westhost.com/balance.htm
20:33 BotSteve Title: Balanced Line Driver with Floating Output
20:34 producerBillWork something based around http://www.puiaudio.com/pdf/AOM-4546L-R.pdf
20:35 producerBillWork then we could pump them to the wheat stone
20:35 producerBillWork or something like that
20:35 Electricguy yeah
20:35 Electricguy regular condenser mic
20:35 Electricguy balanced condenser mic
20:35 Electricguy fuck
20:35 Electricguy wrong window...
20:36 ajcc f-bombs are raining again
20:36 ajcc producerBillWork: hmm, so it got an integrated preamp?
20:36 Electricguy nah
20:36 producerBillWork I don't really know
20:37 Electricguy you need to feed it with a DC voltage and couple the output with a cap
20:37 Electricguy they use VERY little power
20:37 Electricguy i used a mic of that type for my stream a while ago
20:38 Electricguy had a 3.6V 1Ah LiIon cell driving the mic
20:38 Electricguy through a 1k resistor
20:38 producerBillWork i really don't know,,,,, I just have a rough idea here
20:38 Electricguy and a green LED. could go for about a week 24/7
20:38 Electricguy so you can use very whimpy cables to them
20:39 producerBillWork Well a cat could have 5 mics
20:39 Electricguy i can hear a Haas machine on the stream
20:39 producerBillWork 4 mics opps
20:39 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkeZTlaM6JY
20:39 BotSteve Title: Which of these is not a web browser? - YouTube
20:39 Ponko she struggled to get this
20:40 ajcc hmm, how many lines are there too the security cameras? two for video, two for power? then there's four left?
20:40 Electricguy facebook? should totally be internet explorer..
20:40 Electricguy as that's just a shitty download client for browsers
20:40 producerBillWork that is a painful clip
20:40 Ponko lol
20:41 Electricguy producerBillWork, yeah with a Cat you could use a floating balanced system with 4 mics
20:41 Ponko Electricguy: it was on the link i sent you
20:41 Electricguy but then you need trafos or some other weird amp in the other end
20:42 ajcc if you ground to the sheild, you can decouple the DC and run audio on the same pair, without a transformer
20:42 producerBillWork I understand that this would produce a better sound, but simple it better
20:42 producerBillWork in this case
20:43 tonsofpcs hi
20:43 Electricguy yes but you are going to pick up a lot of noise and shit on the way
20:43 ajcc if the sheild decide to pickup all the powerlines AC hum, then you're in trouble
20:43 tonsofpcs bill: you do crazy electronic design, right?
20:43 Electricguy as it's unbalanced and not really shielded
20:43 ajcc it's balanced
20:43 producerBillWork I build them and design the packaging
20:43 producerBillWork not the electronics
20:43 ajcc IF and only IF, you're using the op-amps to get the inverted signal as well
20:43 producerBillWork I see
20:44 Electricguy not if you only got 2 wires and run ground and DC feed/audio through it
20:44 Electricguy then you have a tied down ground and a signla wire
20:44 Electricguy signal*
20:44 * tonsofpcs needs to make a device that can sample at 50 MHz (12 Megasymbolspersecond) and output a bunch of digital signals (pulling lines high/low for LEDs) and another device [going in the same box, so could be the same] that can generate such a signal based on digital (switches!) inputs
20:44 Electricguy ah i see, the shield.... nah not a good idea
20:45 Electricguy it's very fragile
20:45 ajcc Electricguy: two wirers + GND? phantom is only +48V compared to ground, there's no negative side in the signal, iirc
20:45 Electricguy then go for some proper audio cable or similar that got a proper copper shield and not just a foil shield
20:46 Electricguy if it's not a balanced system, there is no negative side
20:46 tonsofpcs what are we trying to do to the wheatstone?
20:46 producerBillWork was just thinking a ton of mics around the lab could be put into the wheat stone
20:46 producerBillWork just an idea
20:46 tonsofpcs oh
20:46 tonsofpcs yea, hang lavs.
20:47 Electricguy fewer mics and AGC is also an option
20:47 tonsofpcs they're omni, they're abundant on the used market (usually the thin wire that goes from the power supply cylander to the mic gets damaged and they don't look pretty anymore)
20:47 tonsofpcs there is an AGC.
20:48 Electricguy ahh nice
20:48 ajcc Electricguy: ok, listen!: Electret with positive aka non-inverted signal -> dual OP-amp -> inverted + non-inverted signal aka balanced -> crappy CAT lines -> balanced input
20:48 tonsofpcs (it still needs to be fed a decent level and it still needs to be set up properly)
20:48 ajcc that's what I'm thinking about, I might be completely wrong, that's OK
20:48 Electricguy ok, so a dual OP amp at each mic?
20:48 ajcc yes
20:49 tonsofpcs ajcc: the wheatstone is a true balanced input system.
20:49 Electricguy yeah that could work
20:49 tonsofpcs (transformer)
20:49 ajcc since we need the DC power for the microphones anyway, we got DC for the op-amps as well
20:49 ajcc which may not work at all
20:49 Electricguy ok, then just use a floating balanced system if there are trafos already :)
20:50 tonsofpcs oh, and my wiring design for the wheatstone is 2 mics per fader, designed so that one ("A") could be used for a studio snake that gets tossed into a local studio and the other ("B") could go to rooms.
20:50 * ajcc is confused
20:50 * tonsofpcs is Eric
20:50 Electricguy Eric... trying to remember who that is.. :P
20:51 Electricguy i have surely seen you on some video :P
20:51 mashpriborintorg the guy who came for cabling the big Wheatstone console
20:51 tonsofpcs yup
20:51 Electricguy ahh!
20:51 mashpriborintorg it's in a GG video, not a blog
20:51 tonsofpcs .g eric wheatstone youtube
20:51 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zN9dzHnDzs
20:51 Electricguy the dude with the soldering iron :P
20:51 ajcc oh, then I can ask: why did you cut the sheilding of the CAT cables?
20:52 tonsofpcs what shielding?
20:52 Coderjoe ah
20:52 Electricguy there is no real shield on Cats
20:52 tonsofpcs that was cat5, UTP
20:52 ajcc oh
20:52 tonsofpcs line level balanced signals don't generally need a ground (in fact, they can cause all sorts of hum and ground loop problems)
20:52 Coderjoe there are shilded as well as unshielded available. most use unshielded, however
20:52 Electricguy if it was shielded it would kinda defeat the whole idea of a twisted pair cable :P
20:53 Electricguy yeah
20:53 tonsofpcs the mic level stuff was all done with shielded twisted pair.
20:53 Electricguy shielded are only for looong cables
20:53 tonsofpcs (prewire from wherever the wheatstone came with)
20:53 Electricguy oki
20:53 Electricguy hehe ok
20:53 tonsofpcs (I reused it since it was nice.  There were still a few left that need to be made, idk what's happened since July 4)
20:54 Electricguy mkay
20:54 ajcc yeah, well, I wonder because if the patch got no sheild, how do you get sheild on long cable runs?
20:55 Electricguy the patch panel?
20:55 ajcc yes, there's a big patch panel which the weatstone is hooked up too
20:55 tonsofpcs 1) you tie into system ground at the end, grounding the shell of the cable to an isolated reference.  2) nothing in TGG's plan is a long run.
20:55 Electricguy oki
20:55 ajcc tonsofpcs: I see, I didn't get that from the videos
20:56 tonsofpcs also, it's balanced.  Balanced line level with a decent twist ratio shouldn't have much problems with external stuff.  This may need to be looked at closer for HVL (and steve knows this)
20:56 tonsofpcs but honestly, a repeater coil is probably the most that is needed on line-level.
20:56 ajcc repeater coil?
20:56 tonsofpcs 1:1 transformer
20:56 Electricguy yeah
20:57 ajcc oh, in sweden we call them isolation transfomers
20:57 Electricguy we use quite a lot of these at work
20:57 Coderjoe HVL kinda freaks me out on the AV wiring
20:57 tonsofpcs ajcc: well, the 'repeater coil' is a very specific one.  I'm trying to find the actual model, I think Western Electric made them (I could be wrong)
20:57 ajcc or if it's on the other end, i.e. not the weatstone, they're impedance matching transfomers
20:57 Coderjoe WE would have... they used similar for telephone cabling
20:58 Electricguy we got a audio system running through the building (on regular Cat5) that's patched into the regular RJ45 sockets. need a trafo at each end. otheriwis it hums like crazy
20:58 ajcc hmm
20:58 ajcc i'm confused now
20:58 ajcc Electricguy: trafos are your friend :)
20:58 Electricguy hehehe yeah sometimes :PO
20:58 Electricguy :P*
20:58 Electricguy sweden you say... i'm also from sweden... :)
20:59 tonsofpcs "isolation transformers" are generally used on mic level signals.  I've got a box of them [24 in, 24 parallel outs, 24 isolated outs, 8 returns in parallel)
20:59 tonsofpcs impedance matching transformers are used for.... impedance matching!
21:00 Electricguy yepp!
21:00 ajcc hmm, yeah, I might be thinking of the wrong kind of trafo
21:00 ajcc transfomer
21:00 ajcc isn't trafo a swedish word btw?
21:00 ajcc x-former is the US?
21:00 tonsofpcs ajcc: http://allenk.home.infionline.net/111c.html
21:00 BotSteve Title: WE 111C & 119C Transformer Information
21:00 Electricguy i have seen english speaking people using that slang too :)
21:00 tonsofpcs yup, Western Electric 111C
21:00 tonsofpcs transformers (robots in disguise)!
21:01 Electricguy hehe
21:01 tonsofpcs ajcc: baluns are generally impedance matching as well.
21:01 ajcc hehe
21:01 tonsofpcs (balanced to unbalanced line transformers)
21:01 Electricguy i got a pair of trafos in my Rane DSP too. but i bypassed them temporarily cause i don't need them :P
21:02 tonsofpcs ajcc: there's a whole set of documentation that I started for the wheatstone that defines a color-coding structure, wiring practices for connecting different types of equipment, etc.
21:03 ajcc tonsofpcs: is it on the net? :D
21:03 tonsofpcs it's a google doc
21:03 tonsofpcs i'm trying to find where it hides
21:03 ajcc wow, those W-E iron is massive in size
21:04 ajcc ehm, gramar error, sorry
21:04 ajcc that W-E iron is massive!
21:04 tonsofpcs heh
21:05 tonsofpcs you should see the studer telephone hybrid we have
21:05 ajcc oh, I want some Studer gear
21:05 ajcc they sound so clear
21:06 * mashpriborintorg going to sleep bye
21:07 tonsofpcs not this one.  Mind you, this is an iron core hybrid designed for a telephone system that actually connected the phones at each end, not this crazy G.7xx switched system that we use today.
21:07 ajcc G.7xx?
21:07 tonsofpcs g.722 / g.711 ulaw / g.711 alaw
21:08 tonsofpcs (and variants)
21:08 ajcc oh, can you get the PCM directly?, cool
21:08 Electricguy oh... now i know where the high pitch whine i hear comes from... the spindle on the Haas machine.. LOL XD
21:09 Coderjoe mmm
21:10 injektion High pitched whine? That sounds like the noise my external HD makes when it spins up
21:10 tonsofpcs ajcc: you can, via SIP.  I have a nice little SIP 'phone' in the racks here that inputs and outputs AES3
21:10 Electricguy lol
21:10 injektion For some reason the noise comps through the speakers
21:10 injektion comes*
21:10 Electricguy bad speakers ;)
21:11 ajcc tonsofpcs: hmm, I want one!
21:11 tonsofpcs anyone else want to see the doc and/or make suggestions, send a pm
21:11 tonsofpcs ajcc: what country did you say you're in?
21:11 ajcc Sweden
21:11 * Electricguy too :)
21:11 tonsofpcs http://www.tieline.com/products/G5/Bridge-IT is what I have, from an Australian-based company.
21:11 injektion Electricguy, it's probably a crappy USB audio interface
21:11 BotSteve Title: Bridge-IT - Tieline Technology
21:11 Electricguy i live in KAlmar. southern part of sweden
21:12 ajcc Skåne is way more south :)
21:12 Electricguy hahaha yeah XD
21:12 tonsofpcs I think Digigram is in France...
21:12 tonsofpcs http://www.digigram.com/products/product_infos.php?prod_key=16100
21:13 BotSteve Title: Digigram - 2-channel IP Audio codec with SIP for broadcast contributions
21:14 tonsofpcs APT/Worldcast is in Belfast, although I don't know if they make anything that plays nice with SIP yet.
21:15 tonsofpcs Comrex is in Massachusettes - http://www.comrex.com/products/briclink.html
21:15 BotSteve Title: Comrex Corporation | BRIC-Link
21:15 ajcc tonsofpcs: france used to have Minitel, anything in france is odd :P, did you know that Minitel delayed the adoption of WWW/Internet in France for years compared to the rest of the world?
21:17 killakee hope that ipad gets back
21:17 tonsofpcs ajcc: well, these aren't consumer products at all :)
21:17 ajcc :)
21:17 tonsofpcs speaking of which, I think I have to rewire one of them ... brb
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21:22 Bat-Mobile yo
21:22 Electricguy greetings!
21:22 Bat-Mobile howdy Electricguy!
21:22 Electricguy howdy cowbo...geek!
21:22 Electricguy :P
21:23 Electricguy whutz up=
21:23 Sgt_Lemming lo Bat-Mobile
21:23 Electricguy ?*
21:23 Sgt_Lemming Electricguy, seen "Cowboy BeBop"?
21:23 ajcc I just remembered that OP-amps can't magically make negative signals without a negative power rail, no, my idea won't work, at all :(
21:23 Electricguy nope :P
21:24 Electricguy and nope
21:24 Bat-Mobile howdy Sgt_Lemming!
21:24 Electricguy and i need a 3rd effin computer screen!
21:24 Sgt_Lemming how goes it Bat-Mobile?
21:24 ajcc you we really do need a neat little transfomer after all
21:24 ajcc ehm, s/you/so/
21:24 Coderjoe I don't understand using ISDN patch for studio voiceover recording... that's going to squash you to G.711...
21:25 ajcc (do people know sed these days of ubuntu and not learning anthing about UNIX?)
21:25 Coderjoe (like Don LaFontaine did... he had his own booth, and his clients might be patched in over ISDN)
21:25 NeWtoz awk
21:25 ajcc Coderjoe: isn't ISDN just the digital signal in phone systems?
21:26 Electricguy hmm, i think i see Batman on the screen, let's see if he's truly mobile.. Bat-Mobile!
21:26 NeWtoz Bat-Mobile is not batman
21:26 Electricguy screen... STREAM*
21:26 Electricguy oh
21:26 Electricguy balls
21:26 Electricguy nvm then
21:26 Electricguy brb! rain simulator time
21:27 Bat-Mobile goes good sarge
21:27 Bat-Mobile BIOS continues to amaze me
21:27 tonsofpcs ok, rewired
21:27 ajcc NeWtoz: awk is nicer than sed, but quite odd, I'll have to learn a bit of awk
21:27 Bat-Mobile I remember when bios was a blue screen
21:27 tonsofpcs ajcc: do you have a SIP phone?
21:27 Bat-Mobile new bios has USB mouse support
21:27 Bat-Mobile it's insane
21:27 NeWtoz CRAZY!
21:27 Sgt_Lemming it's EFI not BIOS then Bat-Mobile :-P
21:28 Sgt_Lemming what board is it?
21:29 ajcc tonsofpcs: nope, sadly not, I still got my old rotary dial phone (those did work until two years ago, at my local phonestation) and a little 56.6K modem for getting audio in and out (I wonder if people used to wear headsets and calling via their modems?)
21:29 Bat-Mobile oh
21:29 Bat-Mobile that must be it
21:29 Bat-Mobile ASUS P8Z68 apparently
21:30 tonsofpcs (yes, they did)
21:30 Sgt_Lemming http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Intel_Socket_1155/P8Z68V_PRO/#overview <--- UEFI BIOS according to that page
21:30 BotSteve Title: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. - Motherboards- ASUS P8Z68-V PRO
21:30 tonsofpcs In the US, touch tone service still is an added cost, pulse-dial is included.  Yes, it costs them more money to handle pulse than touch.
21:31 Coderjoe ISDN is a digital line from the phone company, which had BRI (Basic Rate Interface) and PRI (Primary Rate Interface). they provided multiple 64000 bits per second in each direction. BRI had two of those channels and smaller channel for signalling (call setup and the like), while PRI had 23 of those channels for calls and one for signalling.
21:31 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: erm... well...
21:31 Coderjoe those channels could carry data connections or voice, and the voice was G711
21:31 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, pulse dial is easier to decode than tone dial
21:31 Seroster CaptainNiobe!
21:32 ajcc tonsofpcs: in Sweden, SIP is an additional cost :(, we got so much copper in the ground and the air so the quality is quite good
21:32 Bat-Mobile NeWtoz: I saw your message, but haven't looked at quotes.py yet
21:32 Coderjoe Sgt_Lemming: and easier to encode manually.. :D
21:32 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: sure, on a pair of wires with a stepper and all that....
21:32 Bat-Mobile gonna do it while Win7 installs
21:32 Seroster Saw your fb update about fuckin thieves... And all I can think is "haaaa, there's ASS in "assist"
21:32 NeWtoz ok
21:32 CaptainNiobe oh, thank you SOOOOOOO much for the facebook comment, Seroster! LMFAO!!! you're like my 17-year-old nephew! :P
21:32 Coderjoe I've made phone calls by clunking the hook switch before
21:32 NeWtoz no problem
21:32 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, you can decode pulse dial with a shift register
21:32 tonsofpcs ajcc: oh, we don't have SIP telephone service here (yet -- trying to get a SIP PRI competitively with a copper PRI)
21:33 ajcc Coderjoe: is it just just one clunk for one, two for two and so forth?
21:33 Sgt_Lemming you need a few more components to decode tone dial
21:33 tonsofpcs ajcc: yup, you just disconnect the line that many times.
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21:33 Coderjoe tonsofpcs: what was the "erm... well..." in reply to?
21:33 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: ISDN
21:33 Guest37549 .........
21:33 tonsofpcs hi wannabe.
21:33 Guest37549 I identified in time....why didn't nickserv realize it?!
21:33 Guest37549 hi tons
21:34 Coderjoe tonsofpcs: I had ISDN in the late 90s at home, and did plenty of research on it. I may have simplified some of it though
21:34 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs*
21:34 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, are you using mirc?
21:34 Coderjoe and some terms might have been reused for other stuff
21:34 wannabe1987 yes
21:34 Seroster Happy to help CaptainNiobe
21:34 tonsofpcs some with "an ISDN" usually has one or (more commonly) two BRIs [sometimes bonded, sometimes not].
21:34 Seroster EY Bat-Mobile!
21:34 Bat-Mobile hey Seroster!
21:34 Seroster Have you hid the body yet?
21:34 Coderjoe there is someong goofing around behind the lab...
21:34 wannabe1987 hi Bats
21:34 Coderjoe two someones
21:35 CaptainNiobe lol... Seroster, check out what i replied with... :D
21:35 tonsofpcs we have an ISDN (2x BRI) demarced as data here.  Also, it can be demarced as data or voice and it could be 56k per BRI (don't you love the telcos?)
21:35 wannabe1987 i'm going to go look....when my computer works :P
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21:35 wannabe1987 hi roadran422
21:36 wannabe1987 typical Seroster response :)
21:36 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: I sent a script that should work with mIRC... that alias /f2 thing...
21:36 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: behind? where?
21:36 wannabe1987 yes, i saw it, its saved to my desktop....
21:36 wannabe1987 but i don't know where to put it :P
21:36 Coderjoe I didn't think you could bond BRIs, unless some new thing came out since I last paid attention to it. PRIs could be bonded and use 23 channels from one and 24 from the other
21:36 Coderjoe they left
21:37 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: once you type it in and hit enter (the whole thing, starting with /alias), F2 will make the magic happen
21:37 Coderjoe they wandered past the generators in cam 2, were in cam 3 for a bit, and then were goofing around on the concrete barricades in front of cars, only visible in 6 (when not hidden by the door jam)
21:38 ajcc hmm, someone just came, and left 30 s later
21:38 tonsofpcs yea, on 1
21:38 Coderjoe there is a blind spot between cams 2 and 3 I think
21:38 wannabe1987 its supposed to auto identify, but sometimes it just runs slow, i guess
21:39 tonsofpcs well, you could modify your auto-idnetify thing to wait (either a set amount of time or for a particular response) before joining
21:40 tonsofpcs if the cams are where I think they are, the top of 2 (which is outside the safe area and masked on the web feed) is roughly the left side of 6, the right side of 6 is the top-left corner of 3.
21:40 tonsofpcs I could be wrong though
21:41 Sgt_Lemming if you wanna make it wait before auto identifying wannabe1987, just do the /timer 1 30 thing
21:41 tonsofpcs yea, apparently i'm wrong
21:41 Sgt_Lemming it will wait 30 seconds before identifying that way
21:41 tonsofpcs I saw 2 people walk into parking lot, 1 walking back
21:42 wannabe1987 i don't want to make it wait, cuz if it doesn't identify in 30 seconds, i get kicked off my nick
21:42 Sgt_Lemming what command are you using to identify?
21:43 wannabe1987 um, /msg nickserv identify <password>
21:43 Sgt_Lemming kk
21:43 tonsofpcs 1) use /quote nickserv identify [pass]
21:43 wannabe1987 why quote?
21:43 Sgt_Lemming make it wait ten seconds then?
21:43 ajcc watching securty cameras really creeps me out
21:43 wannabe1987 if its slow enough already, why make it wait?
21:43 Sgt_Lemming /quote and /msg do the same thing tonsofpcs
21:44 tonsofpcs no they don't.
21:44 ajcc being a security camera operator must be the creepiest job ever
21:44 sndwrx Or the greatest job ever.
21:44 BotSteve sndwrx: I have the following messages for you:
21:44 BotSteve At 19:15Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell sndwrx http://www.howsweeteats.com/2011/12/hot-cheesy-roasted-red-pepper-dip/  is this like his dip?
21:44 sndwrx However you look at it.
21:44 Coderjoe my observations suggest the bottop of 2 is the right of 3, and 6 and 3 are looking pretty much the same direction
21:45 tonsofpcs /quote sends the command to the server.
21:45 tonsofpcs /msg sends a command to message whoever has the username 'nickserv'
21:45 ajcc Coderjoe: it is
21:45 sndwrx wannabe1987: No.
21:45 wannabe1987 not even a bit?  you could change the cheese to just asiago...
21:45 ajcc guys in hoodies!, at 2
21:45 ajcc and they're gone
21:45 ajcc see, creepy
21:46 wannabe1987 ajcc: theres quite a few shady characters in that neighborhood....i used to live there and it was creepy
21:46 sndwrx wannabe1987: http://www.blountseafood.com/club-stores-panera-dips/545-club-panera-roasted-red-pepper-a-asiago-cheese-dip
21:46 BotSteve Title: Roasted Red Pepper & Asiago Cheese Dip
21:46 sndwrx That's it, but rebranded with a different name.
21:46 Coderjoe yeah... though not as shady as other areas of the city
21:46 sndwrx It's like Schuler's Bar Scheeze, not like a hot chip dip.
21:46 wannabe1987 joe, true
21:46 ajcc wannabe1987: :(
21:47 wannabe1987 what?
21:47 wannabe1987 why give me sad faces.....?
21:47 ajcc creepy neighborhoods are sad
21:47 wannabe1987 the best chinese restaurant is over there tho :P (best i've had so far)
21:47 sndwrx On the west side?
21:47 wannabe1987 exor674:
21:47 * Electricguy returns from the rain simulator
21:47 sndwrx What's good over there?
21:48 Bat-Mobile rainymood?
21:48 ajcc I saw kidwell on 5
21:48 Coderjoe \x/
21:48 ajcc is that how you spell it?
21:48 wannabe1987 great wall on leonard.  i went there often w/ drew/tj, but i haven't been to many chinese places in gr
21:48 Coderjoe jeff seems to do a lot of non-computer stuff
21:48 ajcc :O
21:49 ajcc is it kidwell, chris and steve(?) at 4 and 7?
21:50 ajcc omni at 5
21:50 ajcc all alone :(
21:50 wannabe1987 OMNI!!!!! :)
21:50 wannabe1987 i love omni dog
21:51 Electricguy she's so cute! :)
21:51 ajcc PUPPY!
21:51 Electricguy btw, do anyone know what TGG radio station use as a media player?
21:51 ajcc it looked like Winamp in one of the videos
21:51 Ponko hmmm
21:51 Electricguy if it's winamp i know of a really good actually working multiband compressor that would do good
21:51 ajcc which is like the mp3-player of the 90's
21:51 ajcc before iTunes
21:52 Electricguy cause now it sounds a bit... crappy :P
21:52 Coderjoe from that description, I hope xmms
21:52 Electricguy the plugin is called Audiostocker
21:52 ajcc xmms is like stoneage?
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21:52 Electricguy might be a bit hard to find. but it is out there
21:52 Coderjoe screw itunes. bloated piece of crap
21:52 reesk hello
21:52 Coderjoe no, xmms had the same UI layout as classic winamp
21:52 reesk anyone here good with php
21:52 ajcc I think the last stable release of xmms was in 2000
21:52 ajcc perhaps 2003-2004
21:52 Electricguy it's made by Leif Claesson who have worked for Orban and he have also made the Omnia 9 compressor :)
21:52 Coderjoe so?
21:52 ajcc it's acient
21:53 Coderjoe if it isn't broken, why fix it?
21:53 Bat-Mobile reesk: I'm not really, but what do you need?
21:53 reesk i just need some advice on a project ive made cause i think ive done a horrible job one one of the parts
21:53 reesk can i pm you
21:54 Electricguy if it's working and sounds good. no need to get a new version. but for audio streaming and that a multiband compressor is VERY GOOD to have :)
21:54 ajcc well, I don't know, it's just odd to use acient software in Linux, and it will break in the future, right now it's on life-support with the oss-alsa thingy
21:54 ajcc compressors are neat on electic-basses
21:54 Coderjoe so take the source and fix it
21:55 Coderjoe but seriously. I hate the whole "it is old, so it is crap" mentality a lot of people seem to have
21:55 ajcc well, from what I've heard, the xmms source is sooo ugly that they made a new one entierly, xmms2 instead of fixing it
21:55 Electricguy all commercial radio stations use multiband compressors. without them it would sound like crap :P
21:55 Coderjoe well, by xmms i meant xmms2 really
21:55 ajcc well, anything that uses OSS instead of ALSA is crap
21:55 ajcc oh
21:55 ajcc ok
21:55 ajcc xmms2 is fine if not good
21:56 ajcc and current as well, i think
21:56 ajcc xmms is an acient mp3-player from the days of Windows 95
21:56 Electricguy i like Winamp :P
21:57 Electricguy and VLC
21:57 Electricguy funny that Winamp is a module player...
21:57 Electricguy or, supposed to be
21:57 ajcc modules are neat :)
21:58 ajcc but it only plays .mod, .xm and .s3m I think?
21:58 Electricguy yeah
21:58 Coderjoe it has input modules for various formats, but it was not originally intended as a mod player
21:58 Seroster I encountered a wierd WIERD problem with a plasma tv
21:58 * Electricguy really like playing modules in protracker on his Amiga 500 :)
21:58 Seroster The screen is partially black when startup
21:58 Seroster Then the picture comes back after time
21:58 Seroster The entire thing has a pink hue
21:58 Coderjoe it sprung out of an older mp3 player (perhaps the reference decoder? I forget) named amp
21:58 wannabe1987 so i picked up glass on the beach....some is smooth, some is not....what tool (at the lab) would one use to smooth out the rough/sharp edges?
21:59 ajcc Coderjoe: oh, is amp some old DOS thinngy?
21:59 Seroster THAT WAS AWESOME! I DIDNT EVEN KNOW IT WAS POSSIBLE!
22:00 Coderjoe it was so long ago I don't clearly remember
22:01 ajcc ok
22:05 ajcc hmm, no, they don't seem to be using WinAMP, they're using Windows Meida Player(?) for something, and I can't see what the other computer is running
22:05 wannabe1987 so i picked up glass on the beach....some is smooth, some is not....what tool (at the lab) would one use to smooth out the rough/sharp edges?
22:05 sndwrx Have access to a Dremel tool?
22:05 sndwrx wannabe1987:
22:06 wannabe1987 not at home, no.  my uncle might have one.
22:06 sndwrx What do you want to do with the glass?
22:07 wannabe1987 make it not sharp, maybe eventually put a small hole in it and put it on jewelry....i make jewelry
22:07 sndwrx Ah, cool.  You may want to consider buying a Dremel.
22:08 wannabe1987 how much?
22:08 wannabe1987 where?
22:08 sndwrx $60 or so.
22:08 sndwrx Ah, here you go.  Even as cheap as $30.
22:08 sndwrx Been a while since I bought one.
22:09 wannabe1987 meijer?
22:09 sndwrx Word to the wise:  It isn't worth buying a rotary tool from Harbor Freight.  You can get away with some tools from there, but rotary tool is not one of them.
22:09 Coderjoe i bought one at a meijer
22:09 sndwrx Don't know how much it would be at Meijer, but I'd imagine about the same.
22:10 wannabe1987 good quality there?
22:11 sndwrx What?
22:11 wannabe1987 @ meijer
22:11 sndwrx A Dremel is a Dremel.
22:11 wannabe1987 sand in the mouth sucks, fyi
22:11 wannabe1987 ok
22:11 wannabe1987 i don't know this stuffs
22:11 sndwrx Although not all rotary tools are created equal.
22:11 wannabe1987 its WINDY at the beach, holy crap!
22:12 ajcc :)
22:12 ajcc I live next to the sea, it's windy in my town, holy crap!
22:12 sndwrx Where are you, ajcc ?
22:12 wannabe1987 i'm next to a lake....
22:13 ajcc sndwrx: Malmö, in Sweden, it's next to Finland, the home of Linus
22:13 sndwrx Ah, cool.
22:13 Coderjoe now some meijer stores might not carry much in that regard... the different stores carry different balances of products based on the surrounding area
22:14 wannabe1987 do you know what kind of car this is?  http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/393238_10150456639379200_706244199_8799098_150138505_n.jpg
22:14 wannabe1987 well, jenison would possibly be ok, no?
22:14 ajcc and ugly one?
22:14 wannabe1987 lol
22:14 Bat-Mobile ugly is the correct answer
22:15 wannabe1987 thanks bats
22:15 wannabe1987 my uncle foudn it on his walk
22:15 Coderjoe I don't know that jenison has much in the way of hardware and tools anymore. they remodeled their store a LOT, and the area that used to be tools is now the electronics area in the back corner
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22:16 Coderjoe geh. thieft is DEFINITELY not cool
22:16 wannabe1987 well, theres also granville, i'm near ish that one too :P
22:16 wannabe1987 what, the apple ipad one?
22:16 ajcc is FL Florida?
22:16 wannabe1987 yes
22:17 ajcc sndwrx: no snow for you? :)
22:17 Coderjoe I don't really know other stores too well. jenison is my usual meijer store.
22:17 wannabe1987 same
22:17 Coderjoe yes, the ipad one
22:17 ajcc in Sweden it's the hottest winter ever, it seems, it's been +5-+8 all of december, crazy!
22:17 wannabe1987 i haven't seen the vid, but i've seen the fb pics
22:18 wannabe1987 posts*
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22:19 wannabe1987 TOASTDUDE!
22:20 Toastdude WANNABE!
22:22 ajcc ME!
22:22 wannabe1987 AJCC!
22:23 masterofmonks Spatula!
22:23 ajcc yay
22:23 wannabe1987 :)
22:23 wannabe1987 anything to keep the swedes happy (NOT)
22:23 Toastdude MOM!
22:24 masterofmonks Toastdude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG!!!!!\
22:24 Toastdude :D :D :D
22:24 wannabe1987 hi mom
22:25 Experimentonomen hm
22:25 masterofmonks Hello wannabe1987
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22:25 wannabe1987 hi jess :)
22:25 sndwrx .sayto wannabe1987 Looks like an old Thunderbird to me, kinda.  With modified rear fins.
22:25 sndwrx oops.
22:25 sndwrx wannabe1987:
22:25 masterofmonks Someone go get a snatch rope and drag lee off of that ipod.
22:25 wannabe1987 why?
22:26 masterofmonks You are here, Toastdude is here...
22:26 masterofmonks I am here...
22:26 wannabe1987 ahhh
22:26 wannabe1987 but its dinner time in about....1/2 hou
22:26 wannabe1987 r
22:26 wannabe1987 and after dinner we're playing games :
22:26 wannabe1987 :/*
22:27 masterofmonks How is tomorrow?
22:27 masterofmonks Toastdude: Tomorrow?
22:27 wannabe1987 i'm on vacation w/ family, we're supposed to keep the tech down to a minimum
22:27 Toastdude I think so
22:27 wannabe1987 i don't know about tomorrow, but aroudn 10p works
22:27 wannabe1987 at night is good, then i'm not missing out on the family
22:27 masterofmonks Then next Friday 2000 Hours eastern.
22:28 wannabe1987 i might be working.
22:28 wannabe1987 wait, the 6th?
22:28 wannabe1987 i won't be working
22:28 injektion I'm going to need more floppy disks
22:28 wannabe1987 i have orientation during the day
22:28 masterofmonks Great.
22:29 KawaiiJess Hi wannabe1987
22:29 wannabe1987 set for now, we'll see, cuz that *is* a friday  night and my friends like to hang out those nights.
22:30 wannabe1987 i don't want to be the one says "i can't hang out, i have an online thing that night"
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22:30 wannabe1987 o.O
22:30 wannabe1987 hi
22:30 lwq1996 god my dad is stupid
22:30 wannabe1987 how
22:30 injektion Do they still make PC motherboards with floppy disk controllers?
22:30 masterofmonks A good afternoon to you too lwq1996
22:30 masterofmonks We were just talking about you.
22:31 lwq1996 he doesnt understand that my sister only needs the digitizer and not the lcd
22:31 lwq1996 how so masterofmonks
22:31 masterofmonks How is next friday at 2000 Hours gaming for you?
22:32 roadran422 Hi
22:32 Toastdude Hi roadran422
22:32 roadran422 On the behind the scenes yesterday. Anyone got the footage of where he gives someone cpr?
22:32 roadran422 For the 1yr event
22:34 ajcc injektion: nope, I'm be happy when they included a serial-port, that's not so common anymore on cheap mobos. thankfully there's usb-floppy drives, just not for the 5,25" ones :/
22:34 lwq1996 wtf, why woulnt my memory card read
22:34 wannabe1987 because you  never answered masterofmonks's question
22:34 lwq1996 oh
22:34 lwq1996 idk i have to see what friday brings :/
22:35 lwq1996 is it possible for a sd card to not work when i take it out of a new camera
22:36 ajcc yep
22:36 Coderjoe is it an sdhc card? if so, is the reader sdhc compatible?
22:36 lwq1996 it always worked before
22:36 lwq1996 and its a sd micro
22:36 injektion ajcc, A USB floppy doesn't work for what I need
22:37 Coderjoe right, but there are sdhc micro cards. same question applies
22:37 ajcc injektion: I didn't know
22:37 Coderjoe injektion: what do you need?
22:37 lwq1996 idk if it is, it just says sd
22:37 Coderjoe if it only says sd then it is not an hc.
22:37 injektion ajcc, The software I use to write floppy disks for my Emax II sampler DOES NOT work with USB floppy drives
22:37 * ajcc thinks it's amazing that NT4.0 doesn't support USB-sticks, I thought those were acient too
22:38 injektion It has to be internal or else
22:38 ajcc oh, and Win98 doesn't either, Win98SE does
22:38 Coderjoe nor does windows 95
22:38 ajcc injektion: oh, I see
22:38 Coderjoe nor the first release of 98
22:38 Coderjoe USB is newer than those
22:38 ajcc Coderjoe: it's insane! :)
22:38 injektion http://www.emxp.net/
22:38 ajcc they do support usb keyboards though
22:39 lwq1996 ok, the flash is happening too fast on my camera how do i slow it down
22:39 Coderjoe and thanks for calling those ancient. what does that make me? :-\
22:39 lwq1996 i keep blinking from it
22:39 injektion "External (USB) floppy disk devices are not supported."
22:39 ajcc Coderjoe: hopelessly acient?
22:39 Coderjoe get new software?
22:39 Coderjoe or a new sampler?
22:39 injektion Fuck no
22:39 Coderjoe what weird format does your sampler use?
22:39 injektion I love my Emax II too much to do so
22:40 ajcc I think it's a hardware thing, the USB floppy drives are not fully compatible with anything else than "normal" operation
22:40 injektion I could either use ZIP disks or floppy disks
22:40 wannabe1987 dinner time
22:40 ajcc ZIP are USB happy
22:40 Coderjoe and you choose floppy?
22:40 ajcc but ZIP drives makes no one happy
22:41 injektion Well I do not want to modify my E-max II from stock
22:41 injektion It's got 4MB sampling RAM and a 200MB SCSI HD
22:42 ajcc you'll need two ZIP drives, one SCSI for the E-max II and one USB for your compy
22:43 Coderjoe i have a scsi one, but I don't plan on getting rid of it any time soon
22:43 ajcc I'm still trying to find a ZIP drive that works
22:43 ajcc that's hard
22:44 ajcc anything other than the first generation 100MB ZIP drives is prone to failure
22:44 lwq1996 i think my card reader is fucked
22:45 Coderjoe i need to find a working 250 (and I had one I gave away at one point! ARGH!) so I can pull some data off some 250 carts
22:45 ajcc f-bombs away
22:45 lwq1996 lol
22:45 ajcc Coderjoe: oh, that's probably asking too much :)
22:45 ajcc those 250MB drives, they newer work
22:46 lwq1996 it worked fine before i put it in the camera
22:46 lwq1996 i blame the camera
22:46 Coderjoe can't you just use midi commands to dump the samples to or from the sampler?
22:46 injektion That requires a Mac SE
22:46 ajcc hehe, :)
22:46 Coderjoe O_o
22:46 Coderjoe why the hell does that require a mac?
22:47 injektion Coderjoe, sample dumping only works over its serial connection
22:47 Coderjoe ok
22:47 Coderjoe so why can't you use the serial connection with a PC?
22:47 Coderjoe you can get RS422 to 232 adapters
22:47 Coderjoe and 232 to USB adapters
22:47 Coderjoe and probably 422 to usb
22:47 ajcc I think you need the software that only runs in System 7.02 or something
22:48 injektion Coderjoe, http://www.emulatorarchive.com/Samplers/Emax2Overview/Emax2Editors/emax2editors.html
22:48 BotSteve Title: Emax2Editors
22:48 Coderjoe http://www.emxp.net/
22:48 Coderjoe that says it supports dample dumping over midi to the emax2
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22:50 Coderjoe just because it was originally designed to work with a mac doesn't mean you MUST use a mac
22:50 ajcc unless you write new software :)
22:50 injektion The guy I bought it from would of sold me the mac for an extra $50 but I didn't think I needed it
22:51 Coderjoe ajcc: someone wrote software for windows to do it
22:51 ajcc Coderjoe: my point :)
22:54 injektion (I hate using midi on windows)
22:55 * reesk <3 stackoverflow
22:58 * Bat-Mobile <3 stackoverflow too
22:58 Toastdude Bats!
22:58 injektion Last time I used MIDI on Windows to edit some synth stuff the software I used kept crashing
22:59 * Toastdude just got an 8 mega-pixel camera for astrophotography :D
23:00 ajcc Toastdude: what is it hooked up to?
23:00 Toastdude My telescope...
23:00 Toastdude And my computer
23:01 ajcc 8 mega-pixels sounds like a lot, I heard people using 1.3k CCD sensors
23:03 ajcc any of you soundguys left?
23:06 Bat-Mobile time to go
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23:08 ajcc I've been wanting to make a computer-controlled patch-bay for some while. I'm thinking about if 4066 could do the job, I'm ok with the clicking, but worried about signal loss and distortion
23:20 Hackbat >:C damn you steam, are you retarded, it gave me a game about selling stuff in a store D:
23:21 Electricguy sleeptime! night night all
23:22 ajcc nighty night
23:27 injektion My desk is finally clean http://goput.it/6ur.jpg
23:28 ajcc red bull is bad for you
23:28 ajcc drink coffee if needed
23:28 Ponko i used to be really good at drinking
23:29 Ponko then i took an arrow to the knee
23:29 Ponko sorry peeps
23:29 ajcc what's this then I took an arrow to the knee thing?
23:29 injektion Why is red bull bad for me?
23:29 Ponko ajcc: i honestly have NO IDEA lol
23:30 injektion If red bull is bad for me than AeroShots are bad for me too
23:31 Coderjoe http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-took-an-arrow-in-the-knee
23:31 BotSteve Title: I Took an Arrow in the Knee | Know Your Meme
23:32 Ponko Coderjoe: was just about to link that lol
23:33 Coderjoe i still think it is stupid
23:33 Coderjoe even though I referenced it in the idlerpg game
23:33 ajcc injektion: do AeroShots contain taurine?
23:34 injektion No
23:34 injektion I thought taurine wasn't harmful
23:34 ajcc not for cats
23:36 lwq1996 cprossu you around?
23:36 injektion There is also evidence that taurine is beneficial for adult human blood pressure and possibly, the alleviation of other cardiovascular ailments (in humans suffering essential hypertension, taurine supplementation resulted in measurable decreases in blood pressure).
23:36 lwq1996 http://www.photoblip.com/pictures/15723/5mb-hard-drive-in-1956-required-a-forklift.html
23:36 BotSteve Title: 5mb Hard Drive In 1956 (required A Forklift)
23:37 Coderjoe yep
23:37 Coderjoe and the computer was bigger than a semi truck
23:37 lwq1996 lol yup
23:37 ajcc injektion: it lowers the blood pressure, yes
23:38 ajcc injektion: so basically, red bull is the ideal stimulant
23:38 Seroster SparkyProjects, there?
23:38 Seroster Anyone know if aussie50 ever comes here?
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23:40 * masterofmonks lights a fire under Seroster to see if he is paying attention.
23:40 Seroster WAT
23:40 Seroster /kick mom
23:41 ajcc lwq1996: oh, that's the RAMAC!, the first harddrive you could buy
23:43 Ponko hmm
23:44 lwq1996 lol
23:44 lwq1996 seroster i would love to see you kick mom
23:44 lwq1996 because i want to see how long it would take before getting baned :P
23:44 Seroster Would it be fun if I kicked lwq1996 just about now?
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23:44 masterofmonks I would mute you lwq1996
23:45 lwq1996 idc kick me if it gives you buz
23:46 SparkyProjects Seroster, i've never seen Aussie here, unless he's in disguise
23:46 Seroster Too bad
23:47 Seroster SparkyProjects, a plasma tv that has big dark spots, but after a while of being plugged in the black spots disappear.  The entire screen got a reddish hue.  Any idea what could be wrong?
23:48 SparkyProjects I don't know much about plasma tv's
23:48 Seroster me neither
23:48 ajcc oh, it's fullscreen at the live stream now .D
23:49 ajcc they are doing something
23:51 Seroster .dice
23:51 BotSteve 4
23:51 Seroster Crap.
23:51 Seroster I think my connection died.
23:52 ajcc .dice
23:52 BotSteve 6
23:52 ajcc hehe
23:52 Toastdude .dice 4 159
23:52 BotSteve [9, 147, 103, 68] =  327
23:53 ajcc ?
23:53 ajcc .dice 6 42
23:53 BotSteve [28, 22, 41, 41, 38, 4] =  174
23:53 Seroster .dice 159 4
23:53 BotSteve [4, 1, 1, 2, 3, 1, 3, 4, 4, 2] =  25
23:53 Ponko hmm i'm very hungry
23:54 Seroster ... He aint fun no moar
23:54 Seroster Ten rolls is the maximum then
23:54 Seroster If we have 10 sides we would assume 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10=statistical result
23:54 ajcc .dice A 741
23:54 BotSteve Can't translate that! (If you're using d notation, don't use spaces)
23:55 Seroster .c 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10
23:55 BotSteve 55
23:55 ajcc what?, it doesn't know HEX?, That's not a geek bot!
23:55 Seroster .dice 10 10
23:55 BotSteve [3, 4, 7, 7, 9, 8, 6, 3, 7, 5] =  59
23:55 ajcc .dice 10 741
23:55 BotSteve [128, 56, 656, 581, 249, 665, 623, 409, 201, 100] =  3668
23:55 ajcc .dice 10 741
23:55 BotSteve [624, 220, 571, 86, 628, 735, 259, 705, 383, 708] =  4919
23:55 Seroster Fiftynine! Wich is within a few percent!
23:55 Seroster .dice 10 10
23:55 BotSteve [1, 2, 4, 4, 6, 5, 3, 8, 2, 4] =  39
23:55 ajcc .dice 0xA 10
23:55 BotSteve Can't translate that! (If you're using d notation, don't use spaces)
23:56 Seroster Holy crap! A statistical anomaly!
23:56 Seroster .dice 10 10
23:56 BotSteve [6, 1, 5, 1, 3, 2, 7, 1, 5, 5] =  36
23:56 Seroster OH NOES! Another one!
23:56 Toastdude .....
23:56 ajcc what's a statistical anomaly?
23:56 exor674 .dice 10 65536
23:56 BotSteve [783, 553, 531, 818, 993, 90, 263, 36, 519, 675] =  5261
23:56 Seroster If you roll a dice and get 4 five times in a row
23:57 Seroster Statistically you expect to get an even distribution of the numbers
23:57 ajcc but not over 10 rolls
23:57 ajcc you'd need a 1000 for that to happen
23:57 ajcc iirc
23:57 Seroster Still a statistical anomaly
23:57 Ponko .dice 2
23:57 BotSteve Can't translate that! Use '.dice 1d20' or '.dice 1 20' format
23:57 ajcc .dice
23:57 BotSteve 1
23:57 ajcc aw
23:57 Ponko ok fail on my end
23:57 exor674 .dice 2 6
23:57 BotSteve [6, 4] =  10
23:58 BotSteve Oh give it a rest will you? Can't we play chess instead?
23:58 ajcc .chess
23:58 Seroster lol
23:58 Seroster Very well then!
23:58 Seroster .c 64^64
23:58 BotSteve 3.94020062 × 10^(115)
23:58 ajcc Would you like to play another game?
23:59 Seroster Wait, that isnt it
23:59 Seroster It's
23:59 Seroster 2^64
23:59 ajcc .c sqrt(2)
23:59 BotSteve 1.41421356
23:59 ajcc yay!
23:59 Ponko ah i see the first number is the amount of rolls and the 2nd is the amount of sides on the die
23:59 ajcc my favorite irregular number
23:59 Seroster You know the tale of that farmer rice and chess?
23:59 Seroster 4142?
23:59 ajcc .c sqrt(pi())
23:59 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
23:59 ajcc no, the square root of 2

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