Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-01-04

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00:00 Ponko night all
00:00 LemPhone sif sleep ponko
00:00 LemPhone only what midnight there?
00:00 Ponko left #thegeekgroup
00:00 LemPhone bah
00:01 Ponko joined #thegeekgroup
00:01 Ponko well next time i won't press Ctrl + W
00:02 eadthem joined #thegeekgroup
00:02 LemPhone lol
00:02 Seroster http://www.facebook.com/notes/chris-boden/laser-lab-phase-1/10150565979399328 kickass
00:02 BotSteve Title: Facebook
00:02 Ponko and just to clear i WAS gonna go to bed at 10pm but had to help with my brother
00:02 LemPhone double piker!
00:02 Ponko why
00:03 Ponko and how
00:03 LemPhone going to bed at midnight, shame on you, unless you have to be up before 4 thaat is :-P
00:03 Ponko my brother is handicapped just fyi
00:03 Ponko lol nah i don't have to be up for anything tomoz
00:04 LemPhone yeah dude, not saying anything against your bro :-D, just giving you shit for flaking out early
00:04 eadthem thats a hell of a thing
00:04 Ponko i was making sure you weren't lol
00:04 LemPhone how's he handicapped?
00:05 Ponko Cerebal Palsy
00:05 LemPhone ah bugger
00:05 Ponko and Quadriplegic
00:05 LemPhone yeah
00:05 Ponko but he can move hes extremities
00:05 Ponko but can't stand
00:06 Ponko but then that doesn't make him quadriplegic
00:06 Ponko anyway...
00:08 Ponko time to get my body clock sorted lol
00:08 LemPhone damn, can't message him this time
00:09 LemPhone anyone know his phone number so I can sms prank him?
00:09 Toastdude Ask Kelly when she gets on, she might know
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00:10 LemPhone heh
00:12 dr_jkl ./
00:14 Seroster What hte fuck
00:14 Seroster Got this party popper
00:14 tonsofpcs whose number?
00:14 Seroster Said on it "No gunpowder or chemicals, the party popper is driven by compressed air"
00:14 Seroster I opened it up and there is a big spring, not an air cylinder
00:15 Seroster -.-
00:15 Toastdude ...
00:15 y007ghg7 lol
00:15 Toastdude Fail
00:16 tonsofpcs Seroster: the spring compresses air between the pieces of metal, that's how  it works, amirite? :-p
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00:17 Toastdude Hi
00:17 roadran422 Hi
00:18 Toastdude Wie geht's?
00:18 roadran422 Que?
00:18 tonsofpcs gud und wie?
00:18 tonsofpcs oh, you were looking for a spanish response?  asi asi, y tu?
00:19 roadran422 Que? Yo no puedo y saber hablar espanol!
00:19 roadran422 *german!
00:19 Toastdude Btw gut
00:19 Toastdude Not gud
00:19 roadran422 ...
00:19 tonsofpcs Toastdude: hey, I had about 10 minutes of formal german education
00:20 Toastdude Haha
00:20 roadran422 xD
00:20 roadran422 No translating.
00:20 roadran422 I'm in spanish 2
00:20 Toastdude I have you beaten by about 15 minutes :P
00:20 tonsofpcs lol
00:20 tonsofpcs probably wasn''t even that much
00:20 roadran422 xD
00:20 roadran422 Yo se hablar espanol.
00:20 tonsofpcs I had to drop to take an in-major class and I got into Spanish 1 (for like the third time) to make my spanish requirement
00:21 Toastdude All I know is Hallo  wie geht's  gut  sehr  schnell  und  du
00:21 roadran422 xD
00:21 tonsofpcs no, no conces nada, roadran422.
00:21 roadran422 Estoy en la clase de espanol dos.
00:21 roadran422 What?
00:21 tonsofpcs el segundo clase.
00:21 roadran422 Ok...
00:21 roadran422 What do you want? xD
00:22 tonsofpcs intelligent conversation
00:22 roadran422 lol
00:22 roadran422 Yo tengo un gato en mis pantalones!
00:22 Toastdude Riù riù chiù!
00:22 roadran422 xD
00:22 Toastdude Das Uberball! Und das umlaut! Ü
00:22 roadran422 xD
00:23 tonsofpcs roadran422: c'mon, if you're going to do that, do it right [wrong].  "Yo tengo un gato los pantalones"
00:23 Toastdude I still need to get an Überball...
00:26 sndwrx Überball?
00:26 Toastdude Buckyball!
00:26 roadran422 lol
00:26 roadran422 tonsofpcs. Wrong.
00:26 roadran422 Yo tengo un gato en mis pantalones!
00:26 sndwrx ah.
00:26 roadran422 I have a cat in the pants?
00:27 Toastdude Paul Kidwell designed a buckyball with  internal bracing to make it quite strong.. It's about a foot in diameter and is made of magnets..
00:27 roadran422 ^yep
00:27 roadran422 And chris killed it... xD
00:27 Toastdude :D
00:27 tonsofpcs roadran422: the point of that statement is to be wrong and hilarious.
00:28 tonsofpcs "I have a cat the pants"
00:28 tonsofpcs Toastdude: is it an adequate represenation of buckminsterfullerene?
00:28 Toastdude Yep
00:29 Toastdude The outer layer at least
00:29 Toastdude http://www.amazingmagnets.com/show-decimal-uberball-ni.aspx
00:29 BotSteve Title: UBERBALL-NI (Showing Decimal Measurements)
00:30 Toastdude Note Chris holding it :P
00:30 roadran422 Lol
00:31 Seroster Good thing is this tube is reusable
00:31 Seroster I can fill it with floud
00:32 Seroster flour*
00:32 roadran422 I need one!
00:32 roadran422 xD
00:32 Seroster Oh you horny fuck
00:32 roadran422 tonsofpcs: That wasn't fun..
00:32 Seroster Get a room
00:33 egrsteve|away 16.094 lbs
00:33 * Cprossu wakes up again
00:34 tonsofpcs shoot out!
00:35 Cprossu tonsofpcs how did your hacking go?
00:36 tonsofpcs Cprossu: brute forcing an NT hash is a PITA
00:36 tonsofpcs I think I'm going to try pushing bootp+dhcp to the onboard ethernet at login tomorrow and hope it is set to autodetect
00:36 Cprossu at least you're not trying to break a server '08 hash
00:36 tonsofpcs then if I can get in, I'm going to clone all the data out
00:37 tonsofpcs (30 GB total between two drives)
00:37 Cprossu I'm trying to find a minecraft texture pack that isn't total eye cancer but looks roughly the same as the stock one so that people wihtout a texture pack can see tgg labs without poo colored walls.
00:37 tonsofpcs once I have it all backed up, I can go to a floppy boot set to remove the password
00:38 tonsofpcs the issue is, without being admin, idk if I have read access everywhere I need
00:38 Cprossu you should
00:38 Cprossu also do you know if you're stuck on a hardware raid or not as your boot drive?
00:39 tonsofpcs there are three physical drives on the SCSI chain.  Two show up in WinNT
00:39 tonsofpcs (all three show in SCSIbIOS)
00:39 tonsofpcs none are matched at all.
00:39 tonsofpcs there are no HDDs not on the SCSI controller
00:39 tonsofpcs floppy drive is dead and will need to be swapped before I attempt boot
00:40 tonsofpcs HDDs are being powered by a separate AT PSU
00:41 Cprossu what kind of scsi flavor is it?
00:41 tonsofpcs so if I can get to the floppy easily, I won't need to power them down.  PCI slots are not easy to get to at all
00:41 tonsofpcs the kind that comes with a Compaq Proliant 2500
00:41 tonsofpcs 6/200
00:42 tonsofpcs "The Integrated Wide-Ultra SCSI controller delivers 40MB/s data throughput, effectively doubling the Fast-Wide SCSI-2 transfer rates."
00:42 Cprossu Ultrawide ok
00:42 tonsofpcs wide-ultra, apparently
00:43 tonsofpcs lol
00:43 Cprossu I do have something
00:43 Cprossu hrmm
00:43 tonsofpcs you have something?
00:43 Cprossu yeah I have sitting here disused an older prolient somethingorother
00:44 tonsofpcs pics or it isn't cool. (rear panel and front with door shut)
00:45 Cprossu mine is a rackmounted unit
00:45 Cprossu but I have spare drives, damn thing doesn't have a model # on front
00:46 Cprossu prolient 3145
00:49 Cprossu I can't find shit on it!
00:54 Cprossu the compaq/hp website has the whole 3000 series deleted
00:55 Cprossu time to find a part #
00:58 Cprossu screw it
01:02 Cprossu tonsofpcs
01:02 Cprossu n
01:02 Cprossu http://www.recycledgoods.com/product_images/k/523/s_p_11305_1__90342_zoom.jpg
01:02 * lwq1996 yawns
01:02 Cprossu ^ this is what the thing looks like more-or-less
01:02 lwq1996 boy i could sleep another hour
01:03 roadran422 ;p;
01:03 tonsofpcs yea, that's different entirel
01:03 tonsofpcs y
01:03 Cprossu the hard drives in it aren't though
01:03 * roadran422 tonsofgirls
01:03 Cprossu unless they are
01:03 tonsofgirls xD
01:04 tonsofgirls That's not right.
01:04 tonsofpcs and by 'entiely', I mean they put the metal cages in different spots and the rest is the same
01:04 tonsofgirls Hi tonsofpcs
01:04 lwq1996 i think im gona get the TI launchpad for a micro controller
01:04 tonsofpcs processor is on a board about the width of the right side, PcI/ISA cards on a board the width of the left
01:05 Cprossu NOOOOOOoooooo
01:05 Cprossu http://www.recycledgoods.com/products/Compaq-3135-Series-Proliant-Server-As-Is-for-Parts.html
01:05 Cprossu ^ found one and link isn't working
01:05 tonsofpcs http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Compaq_Proliant_2500.JPG
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01:05 roadran422 HI IIsi50MHz
01:06 Cprossu yeah yours is newer than mine rofl
01:06 IIsi50MHz Hej
01:06 BotSteve Title: Compaq 3135 Series Proliant Server As Is for Parts - RecycledGoods.com
01:06 tonsofpcs eh, idk
01:06 tonsofpcs it's about the same volume
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01:07 Cprossu still that's pretty funny that I found another one and they couldn't figure out WTF it was
01:07 tonsofpcs are your PCI slot board and processor board split?
01:08 tonsofpcs if so, it looks like the same boards too
01:08 Cprossu damn things nailed tighter than a doornail, I remember looking in it years ago, I think it had room for 4 pentium pro's
01:08 * lwq1996 pokes masterofmonks
01:10 roadran422 A rhombus is a square, a rectangle is square...
01:10 roadran422 Is a diamond a rhombus?
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01:10 PacketHumper greetings yo's and such
01:10 roadran422 PacketHumper: Hi!
01:10 PacketHumper How's it going road?
01:11 PacketHumper .seen wannabee1987
01:11 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen wannabee1987 around.
01:11 PacketHumper guess the ac adapter issue was more serious than we thought. lol
01:11 Seroster How hard is it to rewind an alternator?
01:12 PacketHumper i'm not the person to ask... but i'd imagine depending on the alternator it would be cheaper to buy a new one.
01:12 PacketHumper or go to a junk yard and aquire one even cheaper
01:12 PacketHumper guess i should have asked what it's for :)
01:13 Seroster Eh... ALternating? 0D
01:13 tonsofpcs Seroster: they're easier to fastforward ;)
01:13 tonsofpcs yea, junk yard is probably the best bet.
01:13 PacketHumper lol what is it installed in?
01:13 Seroster 86 honda civic
01:13 Seroster Silver
01:13 Seroster =D
01:15 Cprossu tonsofpcs wow
01:15 PacketHumper mmm honda civic
01:15 Cprossu this machine looks like it could have originally had pentiums in it
01:15 Seroster Not a spot of rust on it
01:15 Cprossu and a upgrade board wedged in
01:15 PacketHumper i had an 89 honda civic for many years as a backup car.
01:15 tonsofpcs Cprossu:upgrade to what?
01:15 Seroster Driven for 25 years in salt, on gravel, upside down and under water
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01:15 Cprossu From pentium 166's to pentium pro something-or-others
01:16 Seroster Biggest problem it ever had was a blown muffler and now the alternator
01:16 Cprossu tonsofpcs there are 2 cpu boards in it
01:16 PacketHumper yah civics from that erra  can't be killed
01:16 Cprossu each holds 2 cpu's
01:16 tonsofpcs cool, overpowere
01:16 tonsofpcs mine's just able to hold two pentium pro 200s
01:16 tonsofpcs (it's got one)
01:16 PacketHumper if that's the case it sounds like cpu risers
01:16 tonsofpcs Seroster: how do you drive upside down?
01:17 Seroster PacketHumper, and even though it is a two door car you casn STILL fit a fridge in it
01:17 PacketHumper tonsofpcs: very carefully
01:17 Seroster tonsofpcs, It's a honda civic, it's easy =D
01:17 PacketHumper Seroster: yah i miss my 89 civic. lol she was glorious.  fast little booger
01:17 PacketHumper 1.5liter 4 banger stick.
01:18 PacketHumper no weight at all
01:18 Seroster It's not even my car, but I love it. Most likely it is the car I'll get when I get around to get my license
01:18 PacketHumper great gas milage
01:18 Seroster Looks decent enough too
01:18 PacketHumper omg seriously spotify? wtf
01:18 tonsofpcs Seroster: I know you can get it upside down, but how do you drive it once in tht position?
01:19 PacketHumper it was doing so well and then started playing music from other countries.
01:19 Seroster For me it's either a civic or a beaten up white rusted out volvo V40, preferably with the drivers side door in another colour, duct taped bumpers and a bike lock as a trunklatch
01:19 PacketHumper none if it in english.
01:19 PacketHumper lol
01:19 PacketHumper sounds like an appropriate first car
01:19 Seroster tonsofpcs, IT'S A HONDA CIVIC. It got traction
01:19 PacketHumper but if you had the choice... the civic
01:19 PacketHumper hands down.
01:19 Seroster My other uncle drove a volvo like that. Fucking tank. =P
01:20 PacketHumper yah they last
01:20 PacketHumper but don't get as good as gas mileage as the civic
01:20 tonsofpcs lol Seroster
01:20 PacketHumper wtf spotify?  what am i paying you for.
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01:20 tonsofpcs PacketHumper: to work on your phone?
01:20 PacketHumper trance is not lil jon
01:20 Seroster When he moved we fit two four person sofas, two tables, one vacuum cleaner and a boatload of clothes and misc items in it.
01:20 tonsofpcs why, did they change something?
01:20 PacketHumper no idea
01:21 Seroster Crap, you could probably fit project jeff in a v40
01:21 PacketHumper all the sudden my trance channel is playing german rap and liljon
01:21 tonsofpcs there's  channels on spotify?
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01:21 PacketHumper yah under radio
01:21 tonsofpcs oh that
01:21 tonsofpcs I haven't played with that yet
01:21 PacketHumper you just pick what you want
01:21 PacketHumper normally works really well but it suddenly went retarded
01:22 PacketHumper i'm guessing it had a stroke
01:24 PacketHumper on the other hand... why won't avg remote install on this workstation. sigh
01:24 PacketHumper 43 workstations and the 44th won't work.
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01:35 PacketHumper quiet in here tonight
01:40 PacketHumper wow prodigy
01:42 * BitViper sneezes
01:42 BitViper there, that should wake everyone up
01:43 PacketHumper might have to set off some form of detonation in here.
01:43 PacketHumper hmm wonder if it has this script...
01:43 PacketHumper .bomb
01:43 PacketHumper bummer
01:43 BitViper got any det cord or c4 in the lab ?
01:43 PacketHumper .trigger
01:44 PacketHumper hmmm come to think of it, i don't think so.  at least i've never seen any on the videos.
01:44 PacketHumper .pull
01:44 PacketHumper wow BotSteve you really need to have someone upgrade your scripting and add some fun to you.
01:45 BitViper first thing on the agenda for the year in the lab ... make some explosives
01:45 PacketHumper no kidding
01:45 PacketHumper with the level of genius we have available i expect nothing short of nuclear
01:45 lwq1996 toastdude you here or playing terraria
01:45 BitViper is the leonard lab open to the public ?
01:45 Toastdude Almost
01:45 Toastdude lwq1996: I'm here
01:46 PacketHumper come to think of it... why is the lab not nuclear powered?
01:46 Toastdude Why?
01:46 lwq1996 come to my realm and help me make the lab :P
01:46 Toastdude Money
01:46 lwq1996 i finally got all the blocks away
01:46 Toastdude ....I'm not on that computer..
01:46 lwq1996 damn
01:46 Toastdude I'm in the middle of something :P
01:46 lwq1996 lol
01:46 PacketHumper i'd help but i'm on an android tablet/laptop
01:46 Toastdude Making a buckyball out of toothpicks
01:46 PacketHumper lol
01:47 lwq1996 finish up and stay off those sites for now on ok toastdude
01:47 BitViper lol
01:47 Toastdude ....
01:47 lwq1996 :P
01:47 BitViper what he's trying to say is he's playing with his ... oh never mind
01:48 Toastdude balls
01:48 lwq1996 im gonna try to make this as to scale as i can toast
01:48 Toastdude Bucky balls
01:48 Toastdude !
01:48 Toastdude Okay
01:48 lwq1996 toastdude likes bucks balls :P
01:48 PacketHumper lol
01:48 BitViper get it right, its buckminsterfullerene spheres
01:48 BitViper =)
01:48 Toastdude C60 s
01:49 lwq1996 damnit i hope its not rainin/snowing this weekend i want to go and shoot another 100rounds through my rifle
01:50 PacketHumper i need it to snow
01:50 BitViper must. have. snow.
01:50 PacketHumper most of my family makes money from plowing.  no snow= no money
01:50 lwq1996 snow can lay on the ground i just dont want it in the air
01:51 BitViper im tired of these wimpy winters, what happened to the good ole days when it took two feet of snow to call off school ?
01:51 PacketHumper no kidding
01:52 lwq1996 lol
01:52 BitViper now they call off school if there's snow in the forecast
01:52 PacketHumper like last feb.
01:52 PacketHumper yah well we weren't important back then.
01:52 BitViper hahaha
01:52 lwq1996 my school was the only school that didnt get delayed by the snow in the area
01:52 PacketHumper now with all the lawyers running amuck they cant be sued
01:52 BitViper meh, my bus driver could drive the bus through 3 feet of snow without a blink
01:53 lwq1996 lol mine was flying today
01:53 lwq1996 like 2 busses from my school got stuck in the ditches and there are only 8buses
01:53 BitViper how much snow do you have on the ground down in GR ?
01:54 PacketHumper wait, you guys got snow?
01:54 PacketHumper chicago got nothing.
01:54 lwq1996 i live in pa
01:54 BitViper we got a few inches up in cadillac where i was for the weekend, im back home east of big rapids now
01:54 BitViper got crap here
01:54 lwq1996 we only got like 2-3in but it rained before we got it so it all froze
01:54 tonsofpcs yay snow
01:55 tonsofpcs lwq1996: they cancel school for snow in PA?
01:56 lwq1996 yes, but not my school because the super is a fucking dick and makes us go if its like 3ft
01:59 eadthem LOL there was this 1 time in highschool
01:59 PacketHumper man AVG's 2012 product is not too bad but it's firewall is horrible
02:00 eadthem we had just gotten a bit of snow and noaa was predicting we might get up to 6 inches the next day
02:00 eadthem but they kept reducing there forcast
02:00 eadthem the whole school did nothing but talk about how bad it was going to be and we got them to call off the next day at noon
02:00 PacketHumper noaa is a guess
02:00 eadthem we got 1 inch
02:00 eadthem that was it
02:00 PacketHumper they have a D20 that they roll to guess how many inches/feet of snow
02:01 eadthem for the lakes area its a D100
02:01 PacketHumper then they use a depth modifier which is based on the rollers age, hieght, and weight to decide if it's inches or feet.
02:01 eadthem accualy noaa is ususaly decently accurate
02:02 eadthem the TV stations like to make it sound worse than it realy is.
02:02 eadthem when its within 3 days  noaa is usualy spot on
02:03 PacketHumper they use goats
02:03 PacketHumper and monkeys
02:03 PacketHumper the goats aggitate the monkeys when some form of liquid is going to be falling.
02:04 PacketHumper causes the monkeys to fling poo and based on the tragectory of the poo they decide how much and when.
02:04 PacketHumper it's very complicated.
02:04 IIsi50MHz I once lived in a city in Japan with a history of meter-high or multi-meter snowfalls. That year...only millimeters. But the forecasters were the most reliable I've ever seen: exact opposite about 80+% of the time
02:05 Seroster lol
02:05 IIsi50MHz And yes, I'm aware I clobbered the term "multi-meter" with my own definition.
02:05 Seroster Yeah, here the weather forecast was like "NOW THE SNOWSTORM IS COMING!!!" - that was december 10th. There has been no snow since.
02:06 Seroster Three days in a row the headlines on ALL the crappy papers was "Now the snow is coming"
02:06 eadthem here it feels like were about to go in to spring agan
02:07 * Cprossu hops back onto minecraft
02:07 PacketHumper was thinking of having a fire out back again tonight.
02:07 PacketHumper if there is no wind it's doable
02:07 PacketHumper nice and warm
02:08 Cprossu I just built the HVAC pretzel
02:08 PacketHumper i still think the lab needs nuclear power
02:08 PacketHumper we really need to get working on this guys
02:08 PacketHumper shame most of the old steam pipe is gone.
02:08 Ycarene We've gotten maybe 4 inches of snow since it started getting cold and that happened in november.
02:08 PacketHumper could have been used for heat/reactor cooling.
02:09 Ycarene Perhaps a Thorium Breeder Reactor.
02:10 Seroster PacketHumper, It is not gone, it's saved, stuffed away in the metal stock
02:10 Seroster Ask Joe
02:11 Cprossu hey guys
02:11 Cprossu http://oi39.tinypic.com/2lup440.jpg
02:11 Cprossu ^ you can't rush 'art'
02:11 PacketHumper lol
02:11 PacketHumper see, we can do this.
02:11 eadthem maby we could get general atomics to donate a TRIGA
02:12 eadthem http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIGA
02:12 BotSteve Title: TRIGA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:12 PacketHumper "My first nuclear reactor" made by little tykes
02:12 PacketHumper interesting
02:12 Cprossu that's a neat little reactor, pity it uses the 90% enriched stuff
02:12 PacketHumper i wonder what toshiba did with their mini reactor.
02:12 PacketHumper they had a pretty slick one that was made to power a few city blocks.
02:15 eadthem we could alwase tell general atomics that if they dont donate one  Babcock & Wilcox said they would.
02:15 eadthem :p
02:16 eadthem 160MW  chris might accualy beable to make a large tesla coil with that
02:16 PacketHumper hmm interesting
02:25 PacketHumper only problem would be the security around it.
02:25 PacketHumper it would have to be in a secure facility
02:27 lwq1996 ok does anyone got the link to the building tour video, not the new one, the one that they did when they moved in
02:29 eadthem ya
02:29 lwq1996 can i have it please sir
02:29 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyrqO0wqd_Q
02:29 BotSteve Title: Building Tour with the Neighbors! - YouTube
02:30 lwq1996 need it for minecraft build
02:30 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXpx07OyYE
02:30 BotSteve Title: Zomb Tour with Gen Badass - YouTube
02:30 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jdLjFjmfEY
02:30 BotSteve Title: Monthly Update: Building Tour 06-2011 - YouTube
02:30 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjqpqPVtPg4
02:30 BotSteve Title: 2011 Building Tour - YouTube
02:30 eadthem last one you probably have
02:30 lwq1996 i mean the steady cam tour
02:30 lwq1996 i cant find it
02:30 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uCD9sZgOrs
02:30 BotSteve Title: Potential Lab, Steadicam Tour - YouTube
02:30 eadthem thats another old one
02:30 lwq1996 thank you
02:30 lwq1996 i needed that because they show more of the basement than the new one
02:31 lwq1996 thank you sir
02:33 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36WPbWHPzfM
02:33 BotSteve Title: New Lab? Could be with your help! - YouTube
02:33 azop lwq1996: so you are the minecraft map guy that did the Lab?
02:34 lwq1996 nope
02:34 lwq1996 thats djrock9000
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02:41 Toastdude Wannabe?
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02:42 jqm1936 This on an I device sucks
02:42 roadran422 Hello all here
02:42 jqm1936 Trying to set up Orc for a friend
02:42 jqm1936 IFC
02:42 jqm1936 IRS
02:42 jqm1936 Fail
02:42 druidmobile iPods do suck for irc
02:43 roadran422 I don't use ipods...
02:43 jqm1936 Its an iPhone 4
02:44 jqm1936 Is astro here
02:44 PacketHumper ah, use coloqui i think it's called
02:44 PacketHumper works great
02:44 PacketHumper i use it on my iphone and ipad
02:44 PacketHumper but andchat on an asus transformer with dock is way better
02:44 injektion Same here
02:44 lwq1996 toastdude how do i find out the name of a block
02:44 lwq1996 so i can fill
02:45 Toastdude idk..
02:45 lwq1996 damnin
02:45 PacketHumper bah, thanks dell.  you want me to sell your product but you will only give me a 5% cut of it.
02:49 azop mobile colloquy + znc with the colloquy module is awesome
02:49 azop push notifications ftw
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02:55 tonsofpcs PacketHumper: it could be worse.  They could expect you to support it too.
02:56 azop they do?
02:56 azop oh, nevermind.
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03:00 Ycarene Bah, why is the live feed always the external camera and the police scanner?  :P
03:01 Druidicriflemani Cause that's the live stream
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03:20 ajprog_laptop Ycarene: because nothing is happening in the lab
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03:24 * Experimentonomen is bored but cant sleep :/
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03:32 lwq1996 hey toastdude you should get on your other computer and help me on my realm, because i think im doing it right but im not sure
03:34 PacketHumper i'm bored
03:35 PacketHumper i demand you entertain me
03:35 PacketHumper you may begin
03:36 PacketHumper The yellow wallpaper is a good book
03:36 lwq1996 i demand you make me a sandwich
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03:36 PacketHumper yah make me a sammich
03:37 lwq1996 make your own fucking sandwich
03:37 PacketHumper no
03:37 lwq1996 botsteve will make you a sandwich
03:37 BotSteve Oh yeah!
03:37 tonsofpcs oh no
03:38 PacketHumper why hasn't anyone made an automated sammich maker
03:38 lwq1996 that wasnt a question botsteve
03:38 tonsofpcs (oh no, oh no, oh yeah!)
03:38 lwq1996 .sandwich PacketHumper
03:38 tonsofpcs BotSteve:  make me sandwich.
03:38 BotSteve Here you go, PacketHumper, I made you a ham, pepperoni, pepper jack cheese on flat bread sandwich!
03:38 tonsofpcs BotSteve: sudo make me sandwich.
03:38 tonsofpcs BatSteve-Away: ^^ make that work :D
03:38 lwq1996 what does sudo mean
03:38 tonsofpcs BotSteve: hmm, replace the ham with roast beef?
03:38 tonsofpcs do as su
03:38 tonsofpcs (not exactly, but close)
03:39 lwq1996 give me an example
03:39 tonsofpcs (switch user and do)
03:39 tonsofpcs .w sud
03:39 BotSteve "Sudan" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sud
03:39 tonsofpcs .w sudo
03:39 BotSteve "sudo ( /ˈsuːduː/[2]| or /ˈsuːdoʊ/) is a program for Unix-like computer operating systems that allows users to run programs with the security privileges of another user (normally the superuser, or root)." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudo
03:39 PacketHumper lol
03:39 lwq1996 does he have one for skittles
03:39 lwq1996 .sudo skittles
03:39 PacketHumper .w skittles
03:39 BotSteve "Skittles (confectionery), a small candy made in many flavors" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skittles
03:40 tonsofpcs .w goobers
03:40 BotSteve "Chocolate-coated (or chocolate-covered) peanuts are a popular bulk vending product." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goobers
03:40 PacketHumper .w booger
03:40 BotSteve "Mucus or snot, usually dried nasal mucus (U.S. colloquial)" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booger
03:40 lwq1996 you are weird
03:40 PacketHumper you were putting candies so i did too
03:40 tonsofpcs .w nose candy
03:40 BotSteve "Cocaine (benzoylmethylecgonine) (INN) is a crystalline tropane alkaloid that is obtained from the leaves of the coca plant." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nose_candy
03:40 PacketHumper .w anus
03:40 BotSteve "The anus is an opening at the opposite end of an animal's digestive tract from the mouth." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anus
03:41 PacketHumper wow that's tactful
03:41 lwq1996 i know how to make cocaine
03:41 lwq1996 i never have though
03:41 PacketHumper lol
03:41 lwq1996 but coca leaves are illegal
03:44 Seroster Anyone wanna scream at your computer for a few hours?
03:44 Seroster The discharge is from corona effects. The voltage is leaking off into the air all along the line. But, if you bring a sharp edge into the corona field, the charge will accumulate there and make the arc you see. Since the helicopter and man have loads of sharp edges and a large surface area, they present a nice low impedance path and you get an arc at the point of contact. The corona is responsible for all sorts of wierd effects.
03:44 Seroster EEEP
03:44 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=287qd4uI7-E&feature=related
03:44 BotSteve Title: Perpetual motion machines (hypothetical ) - YouTube
03:44 Seroster That is the correct copypaste.
03:44 Coderjoe aah... the free energy wackos
03:44 Seroster Overbalanced wheeeeel! YAY
03:46 PacketHumper i really need a hoverchair
03:46 tonsofpcs Seroster: wait, sharp edges make stabby stab stab twwwwwwwwwwiiiiiiiiiiiiiist?
03:46 Cprossu work update: http://oi43.tinypic.com/w884jk.jpg
03:47 Cprossu HVL building is finally built right this time
03:47 Seroster Sexy
03:47 Cprossu and better yet http://oi41.tinypic.com/fpa07t.jpg
03:47 Seroster But isnt it very.... squary?
03:47 Cprossu ^ I found a nice texture pack
03:47 * tonsofpcs hands Cprossu autocad
03:47 Cprossu Seroster damn game is very squarey.
03:47 Seroster Yeah
03:47 Seroster Thats why I dont play it.
03:47 Seroster That and the fact that last i checked it wasnt free.
03:48 Cprossu yeah I wouldn't pay $30 for this garbage
03:48 Cprossu thankfully I am on a friends account =P
03:49 Cprossu and doing this up in garrys mod would look awesome but.... be nearly impossible
03:49 Cprossu one or two rooms is doable
03:49 Cprossu the entire lab however...
03:49 Seroster Hehe
03:49 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIztAjqj88Y&feature=endscreen&NR=1
03:49 BotSteve Title: Perpetual motion gravity wheel - YouTube
03:49 Seroster YES
03:50 Seroster That last comment was damn near perfect
03:54 Seroster ...
03:54 Seroster It'
03:54 Seroster It
03:54 Seroster FFFU
03:54 Seroster It's 5am. I shouldnt be dealing with the free energy nutjobs now.
03:54 Seroster BUT THEY ARE SO STUPID! I HAVE TO!
03:54 egrsteve|away morning all
03:54 Coderjoe and aspect ratio fails
03:54 tonsofpcs Seroster: modflag?
03:54 InteliWasp i sooo need to get minecraft....
03:55 Seroster God damn it
03:55 Seroster What, tonsofpcs?
03:55 PacketHumper yes tyou do
03:55 Coderjoe hahah
03:56 Coderjoe I love the last lines of that video
03:56 Seroster Yeah, those were quite awesome
03:56 * egrsteve|away feels like a zombie
03:57 PacketHumper lol
03:57 Seroster "But what if I make the balls heavier, or alter the angle of the chute?  - You are in danger of becoming obsessed with prepetual motion and will loose free time and your spouse"
03:57 * Coderjoe defensively picks up the shotgun
03:57 Seroster The only thing worse than free energy nuts is gun nuts
03:58 Coderjoe instead I should let a zombie eat my brains?
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03:58 PacketHumper shotguns are good against zombies
03:58 Seroster Not really
03:59 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream: http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | ANNOUNCING MEMBER BLOGS http://is.gd/tggblogs | BotSteve is going to be down for about 24 hours.
03:59 Seroster They don't carry a lot of ammo
03:59 Seroster How long sensei?
03:59 PacketHumper bandoleer
03:59 BatSteve BotSteve is going to be down for about 24 hours.
03:59 BotSteve batsteve: I have the following messages for you:
03:59 BotSteve At 03 Jan 20:19Z, Cprossu asked me to tell batsteve add the new lab server to .minecraft 72.222.196.252:25564
03:59 BatSteve Cprossu: I'll make a note
03:59 Seroster BatSteve, HI
03:59 BatSteve hey Seroster
03:59 Toastdude Hello BatSteve!
03:59 BatSteve hi toast!
04:00 Seroster BatSteve, Reason for downtime?
04:00 BatSteve My CPU fan is eating itself.
04:00 Seroster Are you going to make precious cyberlove to him?
04:00 BatSteve I need a new one
04:00 Seroster Cool. Do you host botsteve yourself?
04:00 BatSteve yep
04:00 Seroster Main computer or a dedicated?
04:01 BatSteve Main
04:01 Seroster Btw, switching cpu fan is a fifteen minute job. What are you going to do the other 23hours and 45 minutes? Porn and cyberlove?
04:01 BatSteve Seroster: yeah, but where am I gonna buy a new CPU fan at
04:01 BatSteve .t -5
04:01 BotSteve Tue, 03 Jan 2012 23:01:44 -5
04:01 BatSteve 2301 in the evening?
04:01 Seroster BatSteve, walmart?
04:02 BatSteve ..wonder if they'd have them
04:02 BatSteve bet they would
04:02 PacketHumper lol
04:02 Seroster Is it serious?
04:02 Seroster The eating thatis
04:02 Seroster ... We can talk about serious eating in the nsfw room with Katemonster later, but back to your computer...
04:02 BatSteve haha
04:03 BatSteve it would probably survive another 24 hours
04:03 BatSteve but the grinding noise is getting annoying.
04:03 Seroster My fan made that grinding noise
04:03 Seroster I got a file and removed half a millimeter of the blades.
04:03 Seroster Problem solved =)
04:03 tonsofpcs shut it off for 12 hours?
04:03 Seroster And by solved I mean "Put of until another day"
04:03 BatSteve heh
04:03 * Katemonster slaps Seroster
04:04 BatSteve anyway, yeah, that's what I'm gonna do
04:04 BatSteve so
04:04 * Seroster giggles
04:04 * Katemonster ...with a wood plank
04:04 BatSteve brb
04:04 Seroster Cya BatSteve
04:04 * Katemonster ...with a nail in it
04:04 Seroster Goodnight
04:04 tonsofpcs katenomster!
04:04 Seroster Lol Katemonster =)
04:04 Katemonster hi tons
04:04 Seroster Just because I'm being mean to you, lesbo =)
04:05 PacketHumper man i'm in the mood for tacos.
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04:08 PacketHumper taco taco taco
04:09 Seroster Riiiight
04:09 Seroster I think Ill leave now
04:09 Seroster Cya PacketHumper
04:09 Toastdude Tacos do sound good kate...
04:09 Toastdude Bye Seroster
04:09 PacketHumper later Seroster
04:09 Seroster MY GOD MY THUMB IS BLEEDING!
04:09 Seroster Due to a rare genetic defect my aorta is located in my thumb! FUCK!
04:09 Toastdude Ouch.. why?
04:10 Katemonster what?  i didn't say a damn thing about tacos
04:10 PacketHumper lol
04:10 PacketHumper i did
04:10 Toastdude ..
04:10 PacketHumper taco
04:10 PacketHumper see it happened again.
04:10 Katemonster failtoast.
04:10 Toastdude -_-
04:10 egrsteve|away ?
04:11 PacketHumper huh?
04:11 PacketHumper i'm so confused.
04:11 egrsteve|away whois PacketHumper
04:11 Katemonster a router, i'm guessing.
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04:12 Toastdude Bats!
04:12 egrsteve|away a router in europe
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04:12 Bat-Mobile there
04:12 Cprossu hey egrsteve|away
04:12 Bat-Mobile now there's a bot
04:12 Bat-Mobile but it's not botsteve
04:12 Cprossu looks like I managed to crack a laugh outa chris
04:12 Bat-Mobile brb again
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04:12 PacketHumper i'm awesome.  that's who i am
04:13 egrsteve|away moning Cprossu
04:13 egrsteve|away awesome it is then
04:13 Cprossu morning egrsteve|away heh
04:13 Cprossu the minecraft lab thing has been scary. finally went server with what I had.
04:14 PacketHumper i'm confused
04:14 PacketHumper i'm the super hero that goes quack in the night
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04:15 Cprossu I know who PacketHumper really is. he's the bastard who shapes our internet traffic for comcast
04:15 Cprossu DAMN YOU PacketHumper!!!!
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04:15 PacketHumper lol be nice to me
04:16 PacketHumper what what package does the lab have?
04:16 Bat-Mobile There we go.
04:16 Cprossu the best one they can buy in the area for business
04:16 Cprossu the problem is whenever we exceed a certain upload
04:16 Bat-Mobile Better'n nothin, I guess
04:16 Cprossu well let me put it this way
04:16 Cprossu 950ms to google.
04:16 PacketHumper wow. that's not right
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04:17 PacketHumper i saw from the device it's a docsis 3.0 business gateway
04:17 PacketHumper so i'm assuming a downlink of at least 50mbit
04:17 Gaxnys I've got 100 Mbit/s :3
04:17 Cprossu it likes shaping it right when it hits 240 kbyte/sec upload
04:17 Cprossu everything goes into the toilet.
04:17 eadthem where at
04:18 Cprossu we have a supposed upload of 650 kbytes/sec
04:18 Cprossu and we can reach that
04:18 Cprossu for 60 seconds
04:18 Cprossu then traffic shaping kicks in
04:18 Cprossu and levels it to about 56Kbytes/sec
04:19 Cprossu with latencies reaching staggering levels
04:19 eadthem Cprossu you have at&t ?
04:19 eadthem in your area
04:19 PacketHumper that doesn't sound like comcast
04:19 Cprossu no I am talking at the lab
04:19 Cprossu not here
04:19 Cprossu I have cocks (errrr cox)
04:19 Cprossu and I have a nice 1850kbte/sec upload here
04:19 eadthem i know at&t isnt much better
04:20 Cprossu I am happy as heck with it
04:20 eadthem but i have had 0 problems with them  compared to when i had comcast
04:20 Gaxnys Cprossu: That's more than what I have. o:
04:20 PacketHumper that sounds like a failed router or a failed implementation of some form of web filtering or traffic shaping.
04:20 eadthem comcast all the suddend started blocking ports randomly
04:20 Cprossu Gaxnys: it's roughly 15mbit upload.
04:20 PacketHumper because you didn't ask them to not block the ports
04:20 eadthem before that i had about 1 outtage a month
04:21 Gaxnys Cprossu: Yeah. I have 10 Mbit/s upload. :c
04:21 PacketHumper they block the ports for home users to prevent viruses and spam from spreading
04:21 eadthem no i told them i was running a private web server and prvate mail server that receves less than 1GB a month total ussage   worst case
04:21 eadthem they said  as long as you keep it under your 250GB cap we dont care
04:21 eadthem they lied
04:21 PacketHumper how so?
04:21 PacketHumper not saying they didn't but i'm not sure how they lied.
04:21 Cprossu I had to run my webserver at :8090 with cox.
04:22 Cprossu bastards.
04:22 eadthem because they saw me conduct my monthly penitration test on the mail server  and they assumed i was infested with a mail spamming virus
04:22 eadthem so they blocked port 25 inbound
04:22 PacketHumper sounds fair
04:22 eadthem inbound
04:22 eadthem i could still send
04:22 eadthem when i asked they said it could never be removed    so now im on at&t
04:22 PacketHumper if you spam out on 25 they will block that too
04:23 PacketHumper their support for home users sucks and they lie most of the time
04:23 eadthem ya but if i have a virus you block outbound
04:23 eadthem inbound wont do a dam thing
04:23 Gaxnys Cprossu: Why not port 80? o:
04:23 PacketHumper they were protecting you.
04:23 Cprossu blocked.
04:23 Gaxnys Oh lol.
04:24 PacketHumper get a business connection.
04:24 Gaxnys I don't have a single port blocked by my ISP afaik.
04:24 eadthem anyhow  comcast did say no public servers in there tos dispite me getting permission to host for persnal use
04:24 eadthem at&t has no such stipulation
04:24 PacketHumper it's more expensive for comcast business but it's worth it.
04:24 eadthem ya they wanted me to sign a 2 year contract for busness
04:25 eadthem on time warner i payed 70$ a month for 70 channels of cable  and free HD if i provided a recever for it. and also 1MB up and 64KB down
04:25 PacketHumper i have been with them for 5 years now
04:25 eadthem comcast wanted 150$ for the same for res
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04:26 PacketHumper yah they are expensive
04:26 eadthem and they wanted 70$ a month for busness   agan just internet service and only about 15Mbps up and 2Mbps down
04:26 PacketHumper but for $205 a month i get 50mbit/10mbit and 5 static ips
04:27 tonsofpcs PacketHumper: and the packet rate limit?
04:27 eadthem att im paying 26$ a month for 6Mbps down and 512Kbps up
04:28 eadthem what i get at times is 8Mbps down and 2Mbps up   but thats only middle of the night when everyone else is assleep
04:28 Gaxnys For roughly 60 usd, I get 100/10 with four IPs. They are dynamic, yes, but I've had the same IP for a very, very long time.
04:28 eadthem ya i had the same IP on time warner for 4 years
04:29 eadthem dispite being dynamic    i use to have it memorised   65.119.?.?
04:29 PacketHumper i never have over an 8ms ping time
04:29 PacketHumper minecraft.nerderosity.com
04:30 eadthem all im saying is  pepole alwase knock DSL  but its realy alot better when faced with the chooise between DSL and comcast
04:30 eadthem least in olathe kansas
04:30 Gaxnys Why not coax/fiber?
04:30 eadthem google fiber isnt installing in olathe for another year
04:31 PacketHumper i've never had a problem with comcast business but this is the chicagoland area so maybe something is different.
04:31 eadthem there 1/2 done with KCKS and KCMO
04:31 eadthem or last i checked
04:31 Gaxnys I can choose between coax or fiber (well, it's fiber to the basement and copper to the appartment, but still).
04:31 eadthem PacketHumper ya all of comcast routes to chacago before going elsewhere  even most of myn went there first
04:32 PacketHumper i just hope comcast drops the price
04:32 eadthem they wont   wait for google fiber
04:32 eadthem or DSL
04:32 PacketHumper i have no limit.  i pull down about 600+ GB a month easily.
04:32 eadthem what do you do with 600GB a month
04:33 eadthem my only tv is amazon unbox and i never went over 70GB on comcast
04:33 Gaxnys Wait, you have limits on the ammount of monthly traffic? ._.
04:33 eadthem on comcast i did
04:34 eadthem it was 250
04:34 PacketHumper netflix, hulu, streaming music, uloading photos, video
04:34 PacketHumper rdp to clients... lots of stuff
04:34 PacketHumper i have no limit
04:34 PacketHumper comcast business 50 ftw
04:35 eadthem im supose to have 150 on at&t but they flat out told me they dont have a congestion issue in olathe so they wont be setting up the equipment to do monthly counting.
04:35 Gaxnys The only limit I have is the speed. So, theoretically, the monthly download limit lies around 30 terabytes. :D
04:36 eadthem ya i wish time warner would buy out comcast for olathe  but i probably wouldnt bother switching to it if they did  i simply dont have a issue with at&t  its as reliable as time warner was
04:37 eadthem might do it for the promotion
04:37 PacketHumper other than att watches and logs everything you do
04:37 eadthem cus i go up to 40$  a month in another 6 months
04:37 eadthem meh so
04:37 eadthem there servers dont have the space to keep that much info for long
04:38 Cprossu egrsteve|away you still around?
04:38 PacketHumper read up on it
04:38 PacketHumper there is a reason i'm not with ATT anymore
04:39 Experimentonomen *yawn**plork**burp**hmm*
04:39 PacketHumper an entire floor is dedicated to the government for access to many things they don't want you to know about.
04:39 eadthem they catch ya doing bit torrenting
04:39 eadthem :p
04:40 PacketHumper nope
04:40 PacketHumper no one catches me
04:41 PacketHumper comcast doesn't read/scan through all the email that comes in to my mail server
04:41 PacketHumper ATT does
04:41 PacketHumper do your research.  it'll drop your jaw
04:44 PacketHumper no one believed it when they were told about their text messages being watched, phone usage being tracked and reported.
04:44 PacketHumper then blam suddenly everyone finds out about carrier IQ.
04:46 eadthem o carrer iq lol
04:46 eadthem not a issue for DSL
04:47 eadthem everyones alwase known that anyone in the middle between you and the server can watch every unsecured page go by  unless its using RSA
04:48 lwq1996 hey toastdude you got to really see what i got done so far
04:49 PacketHumper that's why i use comcast
04:49 PacketHumper well comcast business.
04:50 eadthem and i guarntee they do logging as well
04:50 PacketHumper not the same
04:51 PacketHumper besides... just use ssl for everything.
04:51 PacketHumper encrypt all your data
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04:55 eadthem anyone know  is it possable to set the number of characters when using %s and snprintf or printf
04:58 eadthem ie like you can do with %3i only showing 234 when i is 1234
05:03 egrsteve|away you should be able to, but I don't think it will truncate values
05:03 egrsteve|away you will most likely have to subtract off that before printing it
05:04 egrsteve|away you would be better off copying only the chars you want then printing them
05:04 egrsteve|away or print them one at a time with a loop
05:04 egrsteve|away untill you reach the number you wan
05:05 egrsteve|away as %s will print untill it reaches a null char
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05:08 Cprossu hey egrsteve|away
05:08 Cprossu http://oi44.tinypic.com/16710mf.jpg
05:08 Cprossu .minecragt
05:09 Cprossu .minecraft
05:09 Bot-Mobile Cprossu: Legacy TGG minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: UP
05:09 Bot-Mobile Cprossu: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
05:09 Cprossu hey Bat-Mobile, did you get my message?
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05:09 egrsteve|away what am i looking at
05:09 Cprossu the lab in minecraft
05:09 Cprossu upper mechanical
05:09 Cprossu where the hvl camera is
05:09 egrsteve|away ah ok
05:10 Cprossu btw do you have minecraft?
05:10 egrsteve|away I need to put plexi in that hole still and no
05:10 Cprossu if so 72.222.196.252:25564
05:10 Cprossu kk.
05:16 Bat-Mobile Cprossu: I did get it, but the bot is doing to be down for about 24hours
05:16 Bat-Mobile So I can't make t
05:16 Cprossu fair enough, what happened dare I ask?
05:16 Bat-Mobile E change till then
05:17 Bat-Mobile Well, as you may know, I run the bot on my home machine
05:18 Bat-Mobile I left to go to Detroit for Christmas, when I got back, the CPU fan was grinding.
05:18 Cprossu noooooooo!
05:18 Bat-Mobile I could probably get a day more out of it, but why take the risk?
05:18 Cprossu yeah
05:18 Bat-Mobile So I shut it down.
05:18 Cprossu fair enough
05:18 Bat-Mobile I've got bot-mobile running on a spare machine
05:19 Bat-Mobile So you can still do most of the commands
05:19 Bat-Mobile But he has no history or anything
05:19 Bat-Mobile .seen captainboden
05:19 Cprossu v. nice though
05:19 Bot-Mobile Sorry, I haven't seen captainboden around.
05:19 Bat-Mobile Thanks
05:20 Bat-Mobile Anyway that's the deal
05:20 Cprossu since I put up the lab on a server, things have been going by leaps and bounds
05:20 Bat-Mobile Hey I just realized, this would be a great time to test my UPS
05:21 Cprossu I finally got to place upper mechanical too heh
05:21 Bat-Mobile See how long it takes the battery to die
05:21 Cprossu nice, hope the batt still supports a load
05:21 PacketHumper i once had a client who called me out because her computer suddenly stopped working and was beeping.
05:21 PacketHumper turns out she had plugged the ups into itself and it ran for a whole hour
05:22 Cprossu yikes
05:22 Cprossu I've seen bad things happen when other UPS's were plugged into UPS's
05:22 Cprossu never seen one plugged into itself before
05:22 lwq1996 sup bats and cprossu
05:22 Cprossu musta been like phsycho clicking
05:23 PacketHumper lol
05:23 * Cprossu disconnects from tgg lab minecraft server because he doesn't want to look at badly rendered blocks anymore
05:23 DruidicRifleman lmao
05:24 PacketHumper not sure
05:24 PacketHumper i just walked in and laughed
05:24 PacketHumper plugged it into the outlet and walked back out
05:24 PacketHumper you need the lb photorealism texture pack 256x256
05:25 Coderjoe hahah
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05:26 Bat-Mobile Hahaha turns out the router was plugged into thar too
05:26 wannabe1987 hi
05:26 wannabe1987 hi bats
05:26 Bat-Mobile Well that was dumb
05:26 Bat-Mobile Hi Kelly
05:26 Coderjoe UPS controller's thoughts: "man... what is wrong with the mains here?"
05:26 PacketHumper lol
05:26 wannabe1987 hows irc?  what'd i miss?!
05:27 wannabe1987 .log
05:27 wannabe1987 wheres botsteve?
05:27 Bat-Mobile He's broke right now
05:27 Bat-Mobile Hold on
05:27 wannabe1987 wheres the log?
05:27 Bat-Mobile His cousin should be joining shortly
05:27 wannabe1987 astrobot?
05:27 Bat-Mobile No, bot mobile
05:28 wannabe1987 ah
05:28 wannabe1987 whats th elink for the log then?
05:28 Bat-Mobile It's in the topic
05:28 wannabe1987 the um lab has my 2nd computer....
05:28 wannabe1987 ok good
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05:28 wannabe1987 yay!   abot!
05:29 Bat-Mobile There you go
05:29 wannabe1987 we were talking about you tonight, Bot-Mobile
05:29 Bat-Mobile .log
05:29 Bot-Mobile Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
05:29 PacketHumper hey wannabe1987 how did it go with your computer
05:29 wannabe1987 i don't know, i left it with ajprog_laptop and he said he'd tell me tonight(?) how its going....
05:29 wannabe1987 i had to run off to dinner....they did put me to work tho
05:29 PacketHumper i'm doing pretty good
05:30 Coderjoe Add your mobile phone to your account
05:30 Coderjoe Without a phone number, you could lose all access to your account if you forget your password or if your account is hijacked.
05:30 ajprog_laptop wannabe1987: I didn't get to it yet, I will do it first thing when I get to the lab tomorrow
05:30 wannabe1987 glad you're good
05:30 Coderjoe ... and with my mobile phone number, you can tie my accounts together!
05:30 wannabe1987 sounds good, i won't be ready to go anywhere till after work (1pm) anyway
05:31 wannabe1987 roadran422: its yo hablo espanol, not yo se hablar espanol
05:31 wannabe1987 or just hablo espanol
05:31 PacketHumper Coderjoe: are you talking to me?
05:32 PacketHumper wannabe1987: how are you?'
05:32 Cprossu food time
05:32 PacketHumper yum food
05:32 wannabe1987 hungry (again) but its like 12:30....theres food i brougth home from dinner, but thats lunch tomorrow.  i bought ingredients.  dancing was good :D
05:33 PacketHumper nifty
05:33 PacketHumper tosh 2.0 is on
05:34 wannabe1987 i couldn't find my dancing shoes, but my tennis shoes worked well enough
05:34 wannabe1987 cool?
05:35 DruidicRifleman your back from swing dancing
05:35 wannabe1987 its turned into blues/west coast, but yes
05:36 wannabe1987 o and PacketHumper: we have like 2 inches of snow.  but the roads are dry :D
05:36 * lwq1996 pokes masterofmonks
05:36 * masterofmonks looks at lwq1996
05:36 lwq1996 hows terraria comming along :P
05:37 wannabe1987 o and it is called collilquy, but its not free, PacketHumper, so i couldn't install it on her phone...
05:37 wannabe1987 i told her to ask astro73|alice to set up irc on her iDevice.
05:37 masterofmonks Oh fairly well, how about yours?
05:37 astro73|alice and why would I Know that?
05:37 lwq1996 havent played much, minecraft challenge
05:38 wannabe1987 because you can figure out the program, i couldn't in a bar w/o access to irc and a nother computer
05:38 * lwq1996 repeatedly pokes wannabe
05:38 astro73|alice lol
05:38 astro73|alice you want IRC in a bar?
05:38 wannabe1987 she wanted irc on her phone....and we met at the tiptop, thats where the dancing is
05:39 * lwq1996 is still poking wannabe
05:39 * wannabe1987 is being poked on the back
05:39 * wannabe1987 turns around
05:39 wannabe1987 o hi lee
05:39 lwq1996 hi
05:39 wannabe1987 i was at the lab today
05:39 wannabe1987 they put me to work
05:39 astro73|alice i was at work today
05:39 * lwq1996 boops kellys nose
05:39 astro73|alice i bet you were more productive
05:40 wannabe1987 i told that to jqm
05:40 lwq1996 i was at school today
05:40 wannabe1987 i threw trash away
05:40 lwq1996 what did you do
05:40 wannabe1987 they got a load of SHTUFF in
05:40 wannabe1987 bunch of copy machines
05:40 lwq1996 ah
05:40 wannabe1987 and printers
05:40 wannabe1987 and circut boards from the 80s and 90s....
05:41 wannabe1987 and then i got jeff for trouble shooting the computer and left it there and went out to dinner
05:41 wannabe1987 YUM
05:42 DruidicRifleman i should buy terraria
05:42 lwq1996 you should buy minecraft
05:43 DruidicRifleman i have that
05:43 lwq1996 lol
05:44 wannabe1987 lol
05:44 wannabe1987 i should make a blueprint of the lab, not to scale
05:45 lwq1996 im making a minecraft lab
05:47 wannabe1987 i know...but not everyone knows the lab cuz  not everyone is there.....i know the lab IN THE DARK....
05:48 wannabe1987 my 10 yo sister: 'I am soooo excited to get up early in the morning so I can go back to school tomorrow!'
05:49 wannabe1987 i'm worried aboout her
05:49 DruidicRifleman i thought djrock allready built a minecraft lab
05:50 DruidicRifleman why are you worried about her wannabe
05:50 wannabe1987 dj already did
05:50 wannabe1987 BECAUSE SHE LIKES SCHOOL
05:50 wannabe1987 but his isn't done
05:51 Coderjoe kids never like school!@#@!@%^&*(
05:52 wannabe1987 ik.  she's still young
05:52 PacketHumper i'm back
05:52 wannabe1987 why did you leave?
05:53 PacketHumper i needed turkey
05:53 PacketHumper and bbq sauce
05:53 wannabe1987 nom
05:53 PacketHumper dinner time for me
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05:54 PacketHumper chatzilla is dangerous
05:55 wannabe1987 lol y?
05:55 Cprossu nice lwq1996 know about the server I just put up today?
05:55 PacketHumper cuz it's tall and can eat you
05:55 wannabe1987 lol
05:56 PacketHumper wannabe1987: did you see my horse on facebook?
05:56 wannabe1987 mhm  so cute!
05:57 PacketHumper yah he's silly
05:57 wannabe1987 cute dog tho :)
05:57 PacketHumper we are working on fetch
05:58 PacketHumper he's good at it but doesn't always hand the ball back to me
05:58 PacketHumper brb the horse wants to go potty
05:58 wannabe1987 lol  "drop it" always worked with cinder, our cock-a-poo we had
06:00 Coderjoe look at my horse, my horse is amazing
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06:02 PacketHumper i'm working on teaching him drop it
06:02 wannabe1987 i attempted to teach that to max, my x's dog
06:03 PacketHumper didn't work so well huh?
06:03 wannabe1987 no, the x had/has a different style of dog training than i do....
06:03 wannabe1987 probably a good thing there are no kids between us....
06:03 PacketHumper lol
06:04 PacketHumper yah because that's pedophilia
06:04 wannabe1987 .?
06:04 PacketHumper nevermind you didn't get it
06:04 PacketHumper lol
06:04 wannabe1987 no, our dog rearing skillz don't match, how would our kid rearing skillz match (they wouldn't).
06:06 PacketHumper my dog skillz involve a training collar
06:06 wannabe1987 ooo.  how does that work?
06:07 PacketHumper you push a button and they get shocked
06:07 PacketHumper they learn fast that no means no
06:07 wannabe1987 interesting
06:07 PacketHumper he knows i can dicipline him at any time no matter how far away from me he is
06:07 wannabe1987 nice
06:08 PacketHumper so he listens
06:08 DruidicRifleman they also work great on wivesand girlfriends...
06:08 PacketHumper then for the praise he gets little dog treats from meijer.  they are tiny and he swallows them whole
06:08 PacketHumper so i've heard.
06:08 wannabe1987 druid, which wife have you used it on?
06:09 PacketHumper i need one that locks on so she can't take it off.
06:09 DruidicRifleman none i have never had a wife
06:09 PacketHumper oooo new episode of cops on hulu
06:09 wannabe1987 exactly
06:10 DruidicRifleman thought i have used simmilar devices on GF's which work well
06:10 Cprossu .log
06:10 Bot-Mobile Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
06:10 PacketHumper sweet
06:11 wannabe1987 well, i check the dog's bark collar by talking into it and getting shocked, which makes me laugh and then mom eventually takes it away from me
06:11 eadthem the person at microsoft who made _snprintf shuld be shot
06:11 eadthem not only is it not buffer overflow safe   it is not because it dose not folow the standard
06:11 eadthem all they need to make it fit the standard is 2 more if statements at the end
06:14 PacketHumper lol
06:15 PacketHumper lol i love cops
06:15 PacketHumper it makes me laugh
06:19 PacketHumper bummer it's all prostitution.
06:19 PacketHumper those are boring.
06:20 PacketHumper though this guy has an amazing mustache
06:21 PacketHumper wow i wish i could grow my stache like that.
06:21 wannabe1987 you're a frog.  frogs don't have staches!
06:23 PacketHumper i am not a oh yah i am
06:23 PacketHumper ribbit
06:23 PacketHumper frogs can have staches
06:23 wannabe1987 facebook never lies :P
06:24 PacketHumper sprint lies
06:24 PacketHumper so does chevy
06:24 PacketHumper safe car my ass
06:24 wannabe1987 lol what do you drive?
06:24 PacketHumper prius
06:24 wannabe1987 ..........
06:24 DruidicRifleman ...
06:25 wannabe1987 i call it a pre-ass for a reason
06:25 PacketHumper chevy volts are found to have a safety problem in relation to overheating in the power pack.  aka the batteries start on fire
06:25 DruidicRifleman Yeah How about this I'll borrow a cammero and we'll have a head on collission at 60 miles an hour and see who is in better shape?
06:25 PacketHumper it would be me
06:25 wannabe1987 yes, i heard about that, PacketHumper
06:25 DruidicRifleman yeah
06:25 wannabe1987 and why do you drive a prius?
06:26 PacketHumper because i get 54 mpg
06:26 PacketHumper most of my driving between clients in in town or under 45mph
06:26 PacketHumper have you ever driven one?
06:26 wannabe1987 lol no
06:26 wannabe1987 i drive a ford escort, and get 34mpg when its not winter
06:27 PacketHumper see that's what i don't get
06:27 PacketHumper people rip on hybrids till they drive one
06:27 wannabe1987 come on over, i'll drive it
06:27 wannabe1987 but it doesn't have a manual, does it?
06:27 wannabe1987 i'm partial to my manual
06:28 PacketHumper nope doesn't even have a transmission
06:28 wannabe1987 how does it go then?
06:28 wannabe1987 how do you back up without a transmission?!
06:28 PacketHumper second electric motor
06:28 PacketHumper which is also used to start the gasoline engine and as an alternator.
06:28 PacketHumper well technically generator
06:28 wannabe1987 i'm partial to my manual
06:29 PacketHumper you would be till you drove one. lol
06:29 PacketHumper no shifting no feel of shifting
06:29 PacketHumper nice and smooth
06:29 wannabe1987 there were no prii available to test drive at the 2011 auto show....
06:29 PacketHumper check youtube
06:30 NeWtoz but then how could I annoy every that is sleeping while I gun it
06:30 wannabe1987 lol
06:30 NeWtoz everyone
06:30 PacketHumper there is a prof from some university that shows how the drive system works  in a pruis.
06:30 NeWtoz I WANT MUFFLERS!
06:30 PacketHumper oh you can still burn out in a prius lol
06:30 wannabe1987 computer doesn't like youtube
06:30 wannabe1987 i set my car alarm off in GR tonight at like 11:45pm
06:30 wannabe1987 OOPS
06:30 PacketHumper you'd be shocked at how quick they are
06:31 DruidicRifleman I wanna get an old short bus and Mod it to be a hybrid
06:31 NeWtoz there is an obvious joke there
06:31 PacketHumper but they have 2 motor/generators.  by varying the electric drive motor and a planetary gearset directly connected to the internal combustion engine you get the same thing that a transmission has.
06:32 PacketHumper lol DruidicRifleman that's a cool idea.
06:32 wannabe1987 lwq1996
06:32 PacketHumper they use pruises for taxi's now
06:32 PacketHumper at least they do here in chicago
06:32 wannabe1987 i've heard about that
06:33 PacketHumper yah, the cabbies gun them like race cars all the time so i doubt they get much fuel savings.
06:33 DruidicRifleman i would save fuel
06:34 DruidicRifleman and be able to take like 9 people and a Shit load of crap to burning man
06:35 PacketHumper lol true
06:35 PacketHumper i enjoy getting 500 miles to a tank
06:36 wannabe1987 i don't blame you....that would be nice
06:36 wannabe1987 omg cold feet
06:38 PacketHumper microwave will fix that
06:38 wannabe1987 i'm under a heated blanket
06:38 PacketHumper just fix the microwave to wrk without the door closed
06:40 wannabe1987 nah, i'll just fix the blanket (make it acutlaly cover the bed) and crank it up :D
06:41 PacketHumper lol
06:42 wannabe1987 need to go find my cell and turn the alarm on for 9am....need to meet dad at the bank at 10 and then pay rent and go to work....
06:42 wannabe1987 then come home, make food, do laundry
06:42 PacketHumper eat cake
06:43 wannabe1987 i'd have to make cake or buy it first
06:44 wannabe1987 i was more thinking of making chicken and using my new spices
06:44 wannabe1987 killakee: nice quote.
06:47 DruidicRifleman I wanna Build an eco friendly flamethrower tank any one think this is a bad idea?
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06:48 dr_jkl ....those words dont go together
06:48 dr_jkl 'eco friendly flamethrower'
06:48 jaaz95 that's what I said when i heard about it...
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06:49 jaaz95 how pray tell do you intend on making an eco friendly flame thrower
06:49 DruidicRifleman Using Fuels that are less harmfullto the environment then petrol
06:50 jaaz95 that's still not eco friendly
06:50 jaaz95 eco friendly would be to not have flamethrowers
06:50 DruidicRifleman ...
06:50 DruidicRifleman SHHHH
06:50 wananbe1988 lol druid is our gun/flamethrower nut
06:50 wananbe1988 let him have his wishes
06:50 wananbe1988 he can burn canada down, noone'll notice
06:51 jaaz95 oh i know. im just making sure he knows the idea is crazy
06:51 jaaz95 :P
06:51 wananbe1988 we've told him
06:51 jaaz95 ok
06:52 PacketHumper wow, i walk away for 3 minutes and you start talking about building a flamethrower tank!  dammit
06:52 PacketHumper i'm in
06:52 wannabe1987 lol
06:52 jaaz95 so u want to jellify ethanol to make it into a flamethrower? not sure how that'll work
06:53 jaaz95 i know how to "jellify" ethanol but please explain how you turn that into a flame thrower
06:53 dr_jkl it will eat through every fucking gasket and o ring like the winner in a pussy-eating contest
06:53 wannabe1987 hi dr_jkl
06:53 jaaz95 cause at that point you may as well use napalm
06:53 PacketHumper lol
06:53 jaaz95 which frankly is easier to make anyway
06:54 dr_jkl napalm is easy
06:55 dr_jkl broom handle + bucket + gasoline +styrofoam packing nuggets
06:55 PacketHumper lol
06:55 PacketHumper this is a good discussion.
06:55 jaaz95 yep
06:55 DruidicRifleman yeah but then i can't say it's eco friendly
06:55 dr_jkl broom handle. That shit gets thick.
06:55 jaaz95 u can't say it's eco friendly no matter what u do
06:55 DruidicRifleman well more eco friendly then current flamethower tanks
06:56 DruidicRifleman if i could make a zero immissions flame thrower tank i would
06:56 jaaz95 i can
06:56 jaaz95 it's pretty easy
06:56 jaaz95 it's called dont use a flamethrower.
06:56 wannabe1987 agreed
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06:56 jaaz95 rifles are more useful anyway
06:57 jaaz95 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4nknAzQPHE
06:57 Bot-Mobile Title: George Carlin - Flamethrowers - YouTube
06:57 DruidicRifleman you need to thinj out of the box
06:57 DruidicRifleman [where jaaz95 is thinking] and where he needs to bethinking
06:58 jaaz95 funny
06:59 jaaz95 on another note, anyone known how pyrolitic graphite is made?
07:00 DruidicRifleman NOPE
07:00 jaaz95 *pyrolytic
07:03 PacketHumper you need a gun that shoots out rabbid chinchillas
07:03 wannabe1987 i don't even know waht that is, jaaz95
07:03 wannabe1987 lol
07:03 wannabe1987 chincilla's are cute!!!!
07:04 DruidicRifleman well Could Go even lower by building a coal gun
07:04 DruidicRifleman but the idea of driving a flame throwertankround burning man with an Eco friendly sticker on the side makes me fell warm and fuzzy
07:06 PacketHumper lol
07:09 DruidicRifleman http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1252433_99120101016_SMPredatormain_445x319.jpg somethinglike this for the geek creds
07:09 Bat-Mobile Time to go. Goodnight team.
07:09 PacketHumper i love warehouse 13
07:10 wannabe1987 night bats
07:11 wannabe1987 http://www.theonion.com/articles/600pound-butter-cow-sculpture-wins-iowa-caucus,26941/
07:11 Bot-Mobile Title: 600-Pound Butter Cow Sculpture Wins Iowa Caucus | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
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07:14 egrsteve|away hmm, 4  votes
07:15 egrsteve|away although that might change still
07:15 egrsteve|away although it might as well be a 3 way tie
07:15 egrsteve|away definatly 2 way
07:17 lwq1996 night egrstee
07:17 lwq1996 egrsteve|away
07:18 DruidicRifleman jaaz95 you still on
07:19 jaaz95 ya
07:19 DruidicRifleman #tggontcan
07:19 PacketHumper night all i'm snoozin
07:19 wannabe1987 sleep well
07:19 DruidicRifleman if any one wants to discuss starting chapters I wanna put a list of ideas and concerns to send to chris
07:21 wannabe1987 what kind of concerns?
07:25 DruidicRifleman How does sponsership affect new Chapters
07:28 DruidicRifleman off to beds?
07:28 wannabe-zz yeah...its either that or i fall asleep online
07:29 wannabe-zz have to be up at 9...i work 2 hours tomorrow
07:29 DruidicRifleman ah
07:29 DruidicRifleman 2 hours harsh
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07:37 DruidicRifleman jaaz95 you off for the night?
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07:38 y007-nb yay my new netbook is ready for irdc
07:38 y007-nb irc*
07:39 DruidicRifleman Sweet
07:39 DruidicRifleman I got someone 50 minutes from the lab interested
07:39 y007-nb this thing is so fast conmpared to my old one
07:39 y007-nb this one has a dual core cpu :D
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07:53 Cprossu *yawns* got a backup copy of tgg lab in minecraft in case it somehow gets filled with lava before morning
07:59 y007-nb lol
07:59 y007-nb wait
07:59 y007-nb there is a tgg lab server?
08:02 DruidicRifleman yeah it's a modelof the lab
08:04 y007ghg7 ip? i kinda wanna see
08:26 egrsteve|away y007ghg7 prepares lava?
08:26 y007ghg7 no
08:26 y007ghg7 i dont greif
08:27 * egrsteve|away prepares plot to move the lab into the air
08:27 egrsteve|away hmm I think I need obsidian, and lots of it
08:28 y007-nb hmm
08:31 DruidicRifleman soooo
08:32 DruidicRifleman i just learned it's possible to download an AR15 and print it out on a 3d printer...
08:34 DruidicRifleman I <3 technology
08:44 y007-nb i want access to a 3d printer :/
08:45 DruidicRifleman yeah
08:45 DruidicRifleman does the lab have a 3d printer?
08:51 egrsteve|away night all
09:28 Bot-Mobile In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 1-3-12 The Biggest Fan Watch Contest http://youtu.be/HTcQ8aVUznQ
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09:29 Ponko hello all
09:29 angy-work Hi P´ky
09:29 Ponko i suppose BotSteve is down for maintenance and repairs?
09:29 Ponko hello angy-work
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10:10 electricguy morning!
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10:48 Hackbat can I get some opinions?
10:48 Monkeh Hackbat: You want some smelly armpits?
10:49 Hackbat http://www.amazon.com/gp/feature.html/ref=amb_link_359249682_1?ie=UTF8&amp;docId=1000759101&amp;pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&amp;pf_rd_s=center-3&amp;pf_rd_r=1KZ5ZTGTRC06QSDXX4AY&amp;pf_rd_t=1401&amp;pf_rd_p=1339671582&amp;pf_rd_i=1000759091
10:49 Bot-Mobile Title: Kindle with Special Offers: Buy One of 25 Award-Winning Books for $1
10:49 Hackbat any of those books worth it?
10:49 * Hackbat likes scifi and thriller books
10:55 Monkeh Hackbat: Nothing there which stands out to me. I can dig out something good though.
10:55 Hackbat that's okay lol
10:56 Monkeh Hackbat: Gotta love publisher-set prices.
10:56 Monkeh Hackbat: Save a whole $0.08 over buying the paper version!
10:56 Monkeh Hackbat: http://www.amazon.com/Hyperion-GollanczF-ebook/dp/B0043M6780/ref=sr_1_3?s=digital-text&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1325674518&amp;sr=1-3 YOU WILL READ IT!
10:56 Bot-Mobile Title: Amazon.com: Hyperion (GollanczF.) eBook: Dan Simmons: Kindle Store
10:57 Hackbat Monkeh, lol I was only asking about THOSE books
10:57 Hackbat I can pick one of them and buy it for a dollar
10:57 Monkeh Hackbat: I know. But still. You will read it. :P
10:57 Monkeh I noticed
10:57 Hackbat I have alot of books
10:58 Hackbat not ready to start a series
10:58 Monkeh Hackbat: You should see the paperback versions.
10:58 Monkeh Hackbat: Biiiiig books.
11:17 Ponko bloody hell that's annoying
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11:20 Seroster I HATE THIS BLOODY TOWN
11:21 Ponko everyone is annoyed at something today
11:21 Hackbat ARG
11:21 Ponko but Sero is always annoyed
11:21 Hackbat I forgot to turn on the cold water ;3;
11:21 Hackbat my bath tub is half full of sclding hot water
11:22 Ponko ahh that's not good
11:23 Monkeh Hackbat: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SvXofPb81lU/TwQ2heQkAhI/AAAAAAAAAVo/XsvsY3sGRMM/s1024/IMG_20120104_112154.jpg
11:23 Monkeh Hackbat: Big books. :)
11:24 Monkeh Soon to be displaced because the Warhammer shelf is growing in a big way.
11:24 Monkeh (couple of random books there for scale)
11:33 Monkeh Quiet in here today.
11:40 Seroster ARR! DIE!
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11:42 LemPhone wow, long day
11:42 LemPhone left home at 0850, gonna be probably 2330 before I get home
11:53 LemPhone anyone concious?
11:53 LemPhone or is it still too early over there?
11:53 LemPhone .time tgg
11:53 LemPhone .t tgg
11:53 Bot-Mobile Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:53:35 TGG
11:53 BitViper *yawn*
11:54 LemPhone mornink
11:54 NeWtoz that time is off by an hour fyi
11:54 NeWtoz it's 6:54
11:55 BitViper meh, I think I'll have a glass of juice and go back to bed
11:56 LemPhone tell bat-steve then
11:59 roadran422 .weather 34203
11:59 Bot-Mobile Clear ☼, 15℃, 1026mb, Fresh breeze 17kt (↑) - LFMT 11:00Z
11:59 LemPhone .tfwc brisbane
11:59 Bot-Mobile 22°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Brisbane, AS!  'It is safe to take your ball-mittens off.'
11:59 roadran422 .c 15c to f
11:59 Bot-Mobile 59 degrees Fahrenheit
12:00 BitViper shorts weather
12:00 roadran422 lol
12:00 LemPhone .weather ybbn
12:00 Bot-Mobile Cloudy, 23℃, 1015mb, Gentle breeze 9kt (↑) - YBBN 11:30Z
12:00 roadran422 too cold for  me
12:00 LemPhone that time is out as well
12:00 LemPhone by a lot
12:00 BitViper <--- wears shorts and tshirt in 30F weather
12:00 LemPhone it's 2200 here, not 11:30
12:01 roadran422 BitViper: Hell no for me! xD
12:04 roadran422 In florida, its just crazy cold for us
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12:06 BitViper well I'll only do that if there's no wind. but with no wind, thats fairly comfortable for me at least for short periods, taking trash out, quick run to the store, etc
12:06 roadran422 lol
12:06 mashpriborintorg hiya
12:06 BitViper wind makes it a whole different story =/
12:07 roadran422|schoo Hahahahaha
12:07 roadran422|schoo Well... gtg school
12:07 mashpriborintorg so who's in for the Casio watch chalenge ?
12:07 BitViper dont have too much fun there LOL
12:07 mashpriborintorg good school then
12:07 mashpriborintorg don't forget to check the dumpster for stull to pick up :p
12:07 mashpriborintorg *stuff
12:08 roadran422|schoo xD
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12:12 LemPhone .w scotland
12:12 Bot-Mobile "Scotland (Scottish Gaelic: Alba ([ˈalˠ̪apə] listen (help·info))) is a country that is part of the United Kingdom." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scotland
12:15 BitViper so where was the lab before now ?
12:16 LemPhone kalamazoo
12:16 mashpriborintorg it was in Kalamazoo, in a former ink factory
12:16 LemPhone spelink?
12:16 LemPhone woot
12:16 BitViper ugh, kzoo, smart to move
12:16 mashpriborintorg and even before, in Ionia street
12:16 LemPhone awesome song by primus called kalamazoo
12:16 mashpriborintorg yeah it sucked because of a tax issue
12:17 LemPhone yes, yes it did
12:17 LemPhone still blown away by that one
12:17 mashpriborintorg they had to pack everything and go ti find a new lab, took one year
12:17 LemPhone getting the values of them items out of a newspaper
12:18 BitViper does/will the lab have pcb making facilities ?
12:18 mashpriborintorg was is the walue of a pile of old bolts ?
12:18 LemPhone bitviper, they have a sheet router
12:18 LemPhone that would be a very emphatic yes
12:18 BitViper O_O *drool*
12:18 mashpriborintorg they are putting together an electronics lab, so probably yes in the future
12:18 LemPhone they could make some fricking huge PCB's if they wanted too
12:19 LemPhone mash, the sr100 is more than capable of doing it
12:19 BitViper crap, if i could afford the run to GR id become a live-in nerd there
12:20 mashpriborintorg having a pcb manufacturing companu as a sponsor should be good to, when you want to deal with multilayer, silkscrenn and so on, you can't do it at the hobbyist level
12:21 mashpriborintorg A desktop cnc router kit should become a best-seller
12:21 LemPhone multilayer (3 or more) is overkill for 99% of what a hoobyist does
12:22 BitViper ive been looking at the shopbot-desktop for just that purpose
12:22 LemPhone mash, there are thousands of cheap ones on ebay
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12:24 mashpriborintorg the price must be poor-geek compliant tho :(
12:25 BitViper mashpriborintorg : isnt that the definition of geek/nerd ... poor ??
12:25 LemPhone good luck getting accuracy at a cheap price
12:26 LemPhone accuracy is not cheap unfortnately
12:29 mashpriborintorg it definitely needs fine thread screw drives, fine pitch stepper motors yo, and a good rigid frame
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12:33 ajcc hi
12:33 Gaxnys Yo
12:33 LemPhone fine pitch steppers are hexpensive
12:34 LemPhone we have some 0.9 degree ones, they are about. $190... each
12:41 electricguy Cprossu, what't the link to the server? i ad to reinstall MC..
12:41 electricguy had*
12:41 LemPhone .minecraft
12:41 Bot-Mobile LemPhone: Legacy TGG minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: UP
12:41 Bot-Mobile LemPhone: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
12:42 electricguy thx
12:42 ajcc are people working on Cprossu's map?
12:42 electricguy put some hours into it yesterday
12:42 mashpriborintorg is there a free version of minecraft which could allow me to explore the lab model ?
12:42 Gaxnys Nope
12:43 mashpriborintorg so how much does it cost :p
12:43 ajcc 15 euro?
12:43 electricguy about 10 bucks
12:43 Gaxnys 20
12:44 LemPhone isn't it $20 now?
12:44 electricguy maybe
12:44 ajcc yeah, it is
12:44 Gaxnys 20 euro, roughly, since the game was released.
12:44 ajcc just checked
12:44 mashpriborintorg 20 euro for exploring the lab... I'll consider it
12:44 Gaxnys It is a great game.
12:44 electricguy the addy to Cprossu's server is wrong
12:44 electricguy should be a 4 at the end
12:44 electricguy not a 5
12:44 mashpriborintorg I don't play games anymore apart from it maybe
12:45 LemPhone sigh, phone is rapidly going flat
12:59 electricguy WANT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=Zqmdv5iyIOY
12:59 Bot-Mobile Title: Controlled Quantum Levitation on a Wipe'Out Track - YouTube
13:00 ajcc man, people leave the nastiest comments on youtube, even people who're subscribers and fans :/ I don't get it
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13:07 injektion I'm at the department of labor waiting to file an unemployment claim and apparently something is wrong with the AS/400
13:08 Seroster Wtf
13:08 Seroster Got a thing here with .25in threads that is turned with a 14mm head
13:09 injektion All of them are sitting at a screen that says unrecognized parameter
13:10 ajcc :/
13:10 injektion I thought AS/400 machines never went down
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13:11 mashpriborintorg they need to hire an AS/400 engineer... hard to find, costs much
13:12 ajcc is AS/400 a current IBM line?
13:15 electricguy LOL! http://www.n0.se/f/n/18d23_393922_264621066936125_119230541475179_781763_150448233_n.jpg
13:16 mashpriborintorg no more I'm afraid, but some current systems may be As/400 heritage
13:16 injektion Yes ajcc
13:17 injektion i series or whatever it's now
13:18 ajcc I see
13:19 injektion It's going to be one painful IPL
13:20 yNos hi all
13:21 ajcc wow, yNos?, are you moving into the new Compaq rack?
13:21 yNos Yes, they still make the AS/400 - it is now the I series
13:22 yNos new compaq rack?
13:22 yNos did we get one of the cool looking compaq racks?
13:22 ajcc yep, a white beautiful one, with doors
13:22 yNos black or white?
13:22 yNos nice
13:22 yNos i like those.. them and the big black HP racks
13:23 yNos a nice step away from the standard black racks.
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13:31 kiks hii guyz any 1 der?
13:32 yNos nope
13:32 yNos we all gone
13:33 electricguy lol
13:33 electricguy hi hi kiks
13:33 yNos nobody here but us chickens
13:33 kiks lolz
13:33 kiks hi guyz
13:33 kiks wats gng on?
13:33 electricguy watching the captains blog atm
13:34 kiks nice
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13:34 kiks plz can any 1 of u tel me simple & precious project for sci tech
13:38 ajcc extracting starch from potatoes?
13:38 yNos making alcohol from potatos?
13:38 ajcc hehe :)
13:38 yNos the effect of drinking alcohol from potatoes?
13:40 kiks k .... thnx guyz i'll try these or better than these......... bt thnx
13:40 ajcc :/
13:40 mashpriborintorg I very much prefer alcohol from sugar canes
13:41 ajcc I very much prefer alcohol from yeast and barley
13:43 ajcc haha, I just saw an ad that said: "Do you suffer from ADSL?" xD
13:43 kiks guyz i want project related to electronics .....
13:43 ajcc oh
13:44 kiks i dont want to start alcohol factory
13:45 Sgt_Lemming home now
13:45 ajcc how about something about JFETs?, they can act as a resistor
13:45 kiks ohhh how can it possible
13:46 kiks means how can it resist sumthng?
13:46 ajcc by just conducting a little? :)
13:46 ajcc don't know for sure, I just know that one odd thing about JFETs
13:52 yNos hmm
13:52 yNos what kind of electronics project you looking for?
13:52 yNos kiks ^
13:53 kiks something like related to electronics or programming
13:53 kiks & it must be not so difficult to understand to other normal person
13:53 yNos do you want a blinky light, or an led cube? or an fm radio.. or a shortwave radio..
13:54 yNos simple.. crystal radio
13:54 kiks ya i've fm radio
13:54 yNos tx or rx?
13:54 kiks its tx
13:55 yNos simple tx - http://tacashi.tripod.com/elctrncs/smplfmtr/smplfmtr.htm
13:55 Bot-Mobile Title: Simple 30 meters range FM transmitter
13:56 yNos simple rx - http://www.eleccircuit.com/fm-receiver-4-transistor-by-bf184/
13:56 Bot-Mobile Title: FM Receiver 4 Transistor by BF184| Circuit Project
14:00 Av_Nekoroms seems like i have to combine mediacomputer and nas storage
14:00 yNos eh?
14:01 yNos why, one or the other died?
14:01 Av_Nekoroms was thinking why buy 2 separate machines
14:01 Av_Nekoroms just build one computer that can run videos and eats couple of drives
14:02 yNos ahh
14:03 Av_Nekoroms cause i need one that can run videos.. so my desktop isnt reserved all the time
14:04 Av_Nekoroms hmmm thats what i'll do :)
14:08 electricguy i just realized something... i have had my wristwatch for 7 years, never changed the battery in it! XD
14:11 ajcc yNos: oh, I talked to some fellow sweidsh NetBSD users and they approve your argument for software-raid :)
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14:16 angy-work hello yNos, hello everyone
14:16 ajcc hi angy-work
14:16 wannabe-zz hi angy
14:16 sndwrx mornin' angy-work
14:17 sndwrx mornin' wannabe-zz
14:17 sndwrx mornin' all.
14:17 wannabe1987 morning sndwrx
14:20 yNos hello angy-work  and wannabe1987
14:20 angy-work hello wannabe1987, how´s your 2012 starting?
14:20 yNos ajcc: i am all about giving yourself a way out at a small cost to performance.
14:20 wannabe1987 starting well.  i gots two jobs that i'm starting, which is better than ALL of last year, in which i had no jobs :D
14:21 wannabe1987 i have a shift from 11-1 today....
14:21 angy-work Yay! I only have one :) (currently something like a half, but on the way to have one)
14:21 wannabe1987 thats cool
14:21 angy-work /and/ I found a place this morning
14:21 wannabe1987 work is good, but yu're also going to school
14:21 wannabe1987 sweet!
14:22 angy-work and I just realized I update my facebook status only in english, never in french
14:22 wannabe1987 lol
14:22 wannabe1987 its ok....
14:22 angy-work all Moose fault
14:22 wannabe1987 i have enough foreign langauges on facebook
14:22 yNos angy-work: And us mono-lingual anglophones thank you.
14:23 wannabe1987 agreed
14:23 ajcc yNos: does that include the Google Way (tm) of using domestic computers? (computers made for home users)
14:23 wannabe1987 except i'm dual lingual, in spanish and english :P
14:23 wannabe1987 french isn't spanish
14:24 yNos and neither is german.
14:24 yNos or polish for that matter
14:24 angy-work german in not a language, it´s a torture (at least when I speak german to Moose)
14:24 ajcc German is a beautiful language!
14:25 angy-work not when I speak it, or when Moose goes crazy in dialect
14:28 wannabe1987 or finnish.
14:28 wannabe1987 i have quite a bit of finnish and kreyol on my facebook news feed
14:28 Av_Nekoroms no wai
14:29 ajcc I have a Finnish grandfather, but I don't know Finnish :(
14:30 Av_Nekoroms zomg
14:30 wannabe1987 i have JA12, my friend tups, electricguy, and maybe a few others on facebook
14:30 mashpriborintorg kreyol sa bon mem'
14:30 wannabe1987 mwen
14:30 wannabe1987 ou dezyod
14:30 wannabe1987 i ate haitian last night :D
14:30 wannabe1987 zomg so good
14:31 mashpriborintorg an pa ka di ayen
14:31 yNos why you eat a hatian? thems nice ppl!
14:31 wannabe1987 lol
14:31 wannabe1987 i ate their food :)
14:31 yNos ahh
14:31 wannabe1987 olga is a friend of the family....
14:31 yNos nice
14:31 yNos i love her food
14:31 Av_Nekoroms i could eat some kebab animals
14:31 wannabe1987 mashpriborintorg: i haven't taken much in way of kreyol classes yet :/
14:32 yNos red velvet cheesecake ftw!
14:32 mashpriborintorg i learned by listening music mostly
14:32 wannabe1987 there was our group of 11 (we made reservations!), a group of 7, and a group of 4 and we pretty much filled up the restaurant
14:32 wannabe1987 yNos: did you get some?
14:32 wannabe1987 it wasn't avail yesterday :(
14:32 yNos i have
14:32 yNos i havent been there in a while
14:32 ajcc oh, does anyone know if it's possible to use old 8-bit ISA cards in Pentium machines?
14:32 wannabe1987 cheri kay asked for some soup joumou, but she didn't have any :(
14:32 wannabe1987 i had tilapia and pate.....
14:32 wannabe1987 and thats for lunch today :D
14:33 ajcc I keep reading different things about that, some say you can use 8-bit cards if you only use 8-bits card, and some say you can't
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14:38 wannabe-afk off to go get rent money from dad, come back, pay rent and then go to work for a few hours.  i'll be back
14:38 yNos have fun
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14:44 injektion What is causing this http://goput.it/io1.png anyone have any ideas because the modem logs aren't showing that it lost signal or rebooted
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14:55 injektion apinger: ALARM: WAN(68.184.136.1) *** loss ***
14:55 injektion bbiab
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15:00 yNos .g "define:paranoia"
15:00 Bot-Mobile yNos: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/paranoia
15:00 ajcc :)
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15:03 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0tqSUv1O-c hehe, I was thinking: Hmm, it doesn't spin up to full speed... I guess it's not that fast
15:03 Bot-Mobile Title: Gigantic rusty old IBM XT hard drive roars back to life - YouTube
15:03 ajcc 20 Mega Bytes in a full-height 5,25" format
15:04 ajcc full-height is actually doubble the hight of a CD-player
15:04 ajcc reader
15:09 yNos i wonder if there are any mfm-arduino or PIC code snippets out there..
15:09 yNos with fat-8 or fat-16 supprt...
15:10 yNos just to use that bad boy for something.
15:10 tonsofpcs hey, looking for a small linux dhcp/bootp server that I can run on an as-needed basis (for aid in configuring machines).  Any suggestions?  Perhaps something with either a simplified command line structure of "grant this address to the next machine that asks and then end" or a gui?
15:10 electricguy ajcc, yepp. those old IBM drives got a open motor under them too. a about 3" magnet wheel and a core with open coils around it :P
15:10 ajcc electricguy: hehe, acient tech
15:11 electricguy yepp :)
15:11 tonsofpcs ajcc: yes, yes it is :) I can't stand people who forcefully claim a standard CD drive as "full height"
15:11 electricguy but it'll most likely work perfectly fine today
15:11 tonsofpcs electricguy: if your BIOS still supports manually entering Sectors and Tracks, sure
15:12 electricguy you'll preferably use a computer that used such a HDD
15:13 ajcc tonsofpcs: :), well, they'll learn sooner or later if they want too
15:14 ajcc electricguy: I got an 16-bit ISA MFM controller card, I'm trying to find an MFM drive to test it out, would be awesome if it did work
15:14 electricguy nice
15:14 electricguy yeah
15:14 ajcc I'll see if I can find it, hold
15:15 electricguy i tried to find a full heigh drive with IDE interface to make a REALLY oldschool external USB drive in a nice wood cabinet! :D
15:15 electricguy but i didn't find any drive
15:15 electricguy the only 5.25" drives i know of with IDE interface are the Quantum Bigfoot
15:15 electricguy but i want a full height drive :d
15:15 electricguy :D
15:16 ajcc Quantum made some full-height 1GB SCSI drives
15:16 electricguy oh cool
15:16 electricguy then i just need to find a SCSI to USB adapter
15:16 ajcc or just buy a SCSI PCI controller card
15:17 ajcc SCSI can run over quite long cables, iirc
15:17 electricguy not at all as fun :P
15:17 electricguy i want to be able to plug it into a laptop too XD
15:18 electricguy there are lots of full height drives on ebay
15:19 electricguy here we go, a full height SCSI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Maxtor-PO-12S-1-2-GB-5-25-Full-Height-SCSI-Hard-Drive-/200692968604?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2eba3bac9c
15:19 electricguy a MAxtor though...
15:19 Bot-Mobile Title: Maxtor PO-12S 1.2 GB 5.25" Full Height SCSI Hard Drive | eBay
15:20 electricguy woah! a 5 millibit HDD... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tandon-TM501-5mb-MFM-Vintage-Hard-Drive-Full-Height-/200687810639?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2eb9ecf84f
15:20 Bot-Mobile Title: Tandon TM501 5mb MFM Vintage Hard Drive Full Height | eBay
15:20 ajcc hmm, it's a DATA Tech Corp. card, tons of DTC custom IC's
15:20 electricguy mkay
15:20 ajcc in house some IMP and even a VLSI and a singel PAL
15:22 electricguy killakee, got a hangover today? ;)
15:22 Seroster Kids
15:22 Seroster Evrything in my apartment is moved about a meter up
15:23 tonsofpcs ugh
15:23 tonsofpcs yNos: any thoughts (dhcp) ?
15:23 Seroster The boy, 2.5yrs, is really curious and loves me, because I make his broken toys work
15:24 injektion "hand wash only" FFFFFFFUUUUU
15:24 injektion Seroster: Do you like children?
15:25 Seroster But his mother is SUCH a fucking pussy, he found my tool wall, and was like "This?" "Yeah. That's a screwdriver" *Hangs it back*  "This?" "Yeah... That's another screwdriver."  But his mother gets all twitchy and "whatifhefallsonitohmygodwhereissomebubblewrapwhenyouneedit?!"
15:25 Seroster Yeah, I do, they are delicious.
15:26 injektion lol
15:28 Seroster But seriously, Yeah, I kinda like kids
15:28 Seroster I can play tag and build lego, but when it comes to parenting I'm not really fathers material
15:29 injektion Neither am I
15:29 injektion Kids love me but I don't?like them
15:31 Seroster Heh
15:31 Seroster Don't like them at all?
15:31 injektion Nope
15:31 Seroster They can be fun
15:31 injektion I remember chasing my cousin with autism around when my uncle got re-married
15:31 ajcc http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/hard-disk-floppy-controllers/C-D/DATA-TECHNOLOGY-CORPORATION-Two-RLL-2-7-ST506-412.html took a while to figure out what the card was called :), that's my ST-506/412 controller card
15:32 Bot-Mobile Title: DTC5187I, DTC7187 Hard Disk/Floppy Controller Settings and Configuration
15:32 yNos tonsofpcs: w/o knowing the mac? or just "the next machine gets the lowest unused address in thet pool"?
15:32 ajcc 7187
15:33 Sgt_Lemming lo yNos
15:34 Sgt_Lemming how goes it?
15:34 Seroster How did that work out injektion?
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15:35 yNos tonsofpcs: i use vixie dhcpd, i have machines booting off the network, i am not sure what you are trying to configure though..
15:36 yNos hiya Sgt_Lemming, going yell here, you?
15:36 Sgt_Lemming pretty good
15:36 Sgt_Lemming long day and I probably should be asleep
15:36 Sgt_Lemming but working on things
15:36 yNos am at work now :(
15:37 Sgt_Lemming trying to redraw my entire PCB in a new program atm
15:37 Sgt_Lemming the LED business card board
15:37 yNos :D
15:37 Sgt_Lemming but but but, I did get donate 1600 SMD LED's the other day :-D
15:38 tonsofpcs yNos: it'll be used with a crossover to configure machines for testing, etc.
15:38 Sgt_Lemming oh, and 36 4 way + centre click navi switches
15:39 tonsofpcs so just one machine.
15:39 tonsofpcs one machine, one address
15:39 tonsofpcs (then quit)
15:39 tonsofpcs not a daemon
15:39 Sgt_Lemming yNos, it's 01:40 here, I left home at 08:50 yesterday and got home at 23:45
15:40 wannabe-afk if i say 10:30, i do not mean 10:45.  now i cannot do what i had to, i have to go to work.  stupid landlord
15:42 yNos tonsofpcs: what kind of testing?
15:42 yNos not sure if there are many non-daemon dhcp servers...
15:42 tonsofpcs I know of a few for windows (they do both bootp and dhcp, normally designed for tftp flashes, etc.)
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15:43 ajcc odd
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15:46 yNos I have never looked for such a thing, so i dont know.
15:48 Ponko lol cambots are fun to mess with
15:48 Ponko you tell them ANYTHING and they always reply the same
15:49 ajcc electricguy_: did you figure out which RJ45 crimper to buy?
15:50 ajcc electricguy:
15:50 electricguy huh? i haven't been interested in that... :P
15:50 ajcc hmm, was it another kind of crimper?
15:50 electricguy not what i can remember
15:51 ajcc hmm
15:51 ajcc damn all these swedes are confusing me ;P
15:51 electricguy lol
15:51 JA12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqlClbF3_UA
15:51 Bot-Mobile Title: BLACK SUN AEON -SOLITUDE- Feat. Mikko Heikkilä & Janica Lönn - YouTube
15:52 Sgt_Lemming someone needs to tell chris I can now get LED tape for $1 per meter
15:53 ajcc JA12: that just sounds insanely Finnish
15:53 ajcc even without reading the title
15:54 JA12 ajcc: in a bad way?
15:54 ajcc nope
15:54 ajcc in a good way
15:55 JA12 ajcc: I'm not sure what you mean but great :)
15:56 Sgt_Lemming with chris's love affair for LED's I might have to send him one of my business cards when they are completed
15:57 yNos I'd buy one myself ;)
15:57 Sgt_Lemming heh
15:57 yNos if you are going into production mode.
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15:58 Sgt_Lemming think about maybe getting it produced properly
15:58 Sgt_Lemming like a batch of 100 straight up
15:58 Sgt_Lemming yNos, I may actually be looking at running a kick starter for it...
15:58 Sgt_Lemming which needs someone with a USA bank account :-D
15:58 ajcc yNos: do you have Mitnick's business card?
16:00 JA12 ajcc: I also listen to swedish metal (of course) but I can't say what in it would be swedish like. scandinavian metal can be recognized from others but not always because there's so much of it in different genres
16:02 Sgt_Lemming ajcc http://oi42.tinypic.com/mr7a7l.jpg <--- my business card so far
16:03 Sgt_Lemming well, that's not actually even the latest version of it
16:03 ajcc Sgt_Lemming: that's a lot of LEDs
16:03 Sgt_Lemming but yeah, you get the gist :-P
16:03 Sgt_Lemming you don't say :-P
16:04 Sgt_Lemming hence why I am considering getting someone to do it with a pick'n'place machine for me
16:04 JA12 Sgt_Lemming: that's just beautiful
16:04 Sgt_Lemming there is 160 LED's per board
16:04 ajcc JA12: it's very true, the scandinavian metalbands are quite similar. But there's some characteristic sounds to Finnish metal :), I think.
16:04 Sgt_Lemming heh, thanks JA12
16:05 Sgt_Lemming how much would you be willing to pay for one JA12?
16:05 JA12 Sgt_Lemming: I was just going to ask that do you have BOM and have you calculated the cost per card
16:07 Sgt_Lemming it has 160 LED's, a microcontroller with 128K program space, accelerometer, gyro, digital compass, USB programming interface, light sensor, mic, speaker, temp sensor and onboard battery :-D
16:08 ajcc JA12: which Finnish metal band do you listen too?, I've been listening to the same Swedish metal bands for the last decade (it feels like) :P
16:10 JA12 ajcc: it would take me a few hours to answer that completely =)
16:10 ajcc hehe :)
16:10 Sgt_Lemming JA12, if you want specifics, the micro controller is an ATmega 1281
16:10 Sgt_Lemming or I might do it with a 2561 if I can get em cheap
16:10 ajcc JA12: favorite bands then?
16:12 JA12 ajcc: I opened my music player and hit "recent favorites"
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16:12 JA12 ajcc: there's only insomnium and stratovarius which are finnish bands
16:14 JA12 ajcc: they're not my favorites, just what I've recently played most. I don't really have favorites because the music I listen to gets chosen by mood and it's not necessarely metal
16:14 ajcc :)
16:15 ajcc I hear you, I got everything from free jazz to mozart to death metal to indie pop to folk music in my collection
16:15 JA12 ajcc: I think latest Insomnium album as a whole is just awesome
16:15 ajcc I'm listening to Down With the Sun atm, it sounds really good, that melodic finnish sound :)
16:15 ajcc very comforting
16:16 JA12 ajcc: the guy behind black sun aeon, Tuomas Saukkonen, has his dirty hands everywhere and he usually produces quality work
16:17 Sgt_Lemming metal != melodic
16:17 ajcc sorry, melodic metal then?
16:17 ajcc or progressive I think you US people call it
16:18 ajcc melodic death metal is my favorite genre of all time
16:18 ajcc (Opeth)
16:18 ajcc their lyrics sux, but their music is awesome
16:19 electricguy german industrail gabber is hard :D
16:19 electricguy industrial*
16:20 JA12 Sgt_Lemming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_h_flwYLm4
16:20 Bot-Mobile Title: Insomnium - Inertia & Oneforsorrow - YouTube
16:21 Sgt_Lemming JA12, any guess on the price of the board?
16:21 ajcc electricguy: Front 242?
16:21 electricguy never heard of them
16:21 ajcc DAF?
16:21 electricguy but industrial gabber in general
16:21 ajcc hmm, any bands?
16:22 electricguy not a big fan of it, but i have listened to is :P
16:22 JA12 Sgt_Lemming: I can't say. I'd had to go through that bom and try to guestimate
16:22 electricguy can't remember any atm, but there is plenty of it on spotify
16:22 Sgt_Lemming hopefully about $30 cost per board
16:22 Seroster Why do people find it impressive when people chop fresh bamboo with swords?
16:22 Sgt_Lemming that depends a LOT on quantity with LED's especially
16:23 ajcc :O
16:23 Seroster COME ON
16:23 ajcc that's one expensive businesscard
16:23 Seroster Bamboo is GRASS
16:23 Seroster It got no fibers
16:23 Seroster It's 80% air
16:23 Seroster FFFFUUUU
16:23 BitViper g'mooning Seroster
16:23 Seroster ARGH
16:23 Sgt_Lemming going from one board to ten drops the price of LED's from $32 to $13
16:23 Sgt_Lemming ajcc, not one I am gonna be handing out willy nilly
16:23 Sgt_Lemming and I am probably gonna sell a few of them :-P
16:24 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwAJXV070OY this is DAF
16:24 Bot-Mobile Title: DAF "Der Mussolini" (Tanz den Mussolini) - YouTube
16:24 electricguy the creepers in the CreeperCraft texture pack are cute :P http://i.imgur.com/bitD8.png
16:24 ajcc Sgt_Lemming: make them easily reprogrammable :)
16:24 electricguy ajcc, lame :P
16:25 Sgt_Lemming ajcc, they will basically be as easy to reprogram as an arduino
16:25 electricguy and that's not gabber XD gabber is the electronic musics answer on death meatl :P
16:25 JA12 Sgt_Lemming: it's not bad considering that it can do lots of stuff but for a business card it's important to get price down
16:25 electricguy metal*
16:25 Sgt_Lemming in fact aiming to make it so that you can program it with the arduino IDE
16:25 ajcc electricguy: oh, I thought gabber was just an empty word you threw in
16:25 ajcc like gabber gabber
16:25 electricguy oh. ok, nah :P
16:26 BitViper Sgt_Lemming : ya should add an fpga in there for even more fun O_o
16:26 Sgt_Lemming no, just no
16:26 BitViper hehehe
16:26 Sgt_Lemming FPGA's are awesome, but they are completely ill suited for this purpose
16:27 ajcc man I have to get some DAF vinyls, I forgot how awesome they are
16:27 electricguy this is average gabber :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wlfgJBB3nFo&amp;feature=related
16:27 Bot-Mobile Title: The Blaster - Face of the pain Hardcore Gabber - YouTube
16:27 JA12 electricguy: this is the last gabber(ish) thing I've listened to http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=OBEYxCjy7Vc#t=1156s
16:27 Bot-Mobile Title: DJ Cotts - Hardcore Gabber Mix! - YouTube
16:28 ajcc electricguy: sounds like polish techno to me
16:28 electricguy the german industrial shit is even worse XD cnan baerly be classed as music, lol
16:28 electricguy ooh DJ Cotts is skilled as fuck. Australian hardcore DJ
16:28 ajcc :/
16:29 * electricguy <3 australian hardcore :3
16:29 electricguy like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwgTe1Rjhek&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=31&amp;feature=plpp_video    or  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPaJsz0uY3w&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=30&amp;feature=plpp_video
16:29 Bot-Mobile Title: Hardcore Til I Die 2: CD 1 - Re-Con & Demand - Like A Rainbow - YouTube
16:31 JA12 electricguy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=qciVXUHTN10#t=1102s
16:31 Bot-Mobile Title: Beardyman - Live in the Underbelly: The Full show - YouTube
16:31 ajcc I'm just going to say it's not my cup of tea, and leave it at that :)
16:31 BitViper anyone around the lab willing/able to get me a bunch of photos of the outside of the building from various angles ? I can build a 3d model for google maps/earth or whatever else the lab might want to use it for.
16:31 electricguy JA12, yeah, beardyman is totally awesome :D
16:32 Sgt_Lemming JA12, as I said, I might even try and make a bit of a profit by selling them
16:32 Sgt_Lemming already had a number people of go "I want one!"
16:32 JA12 ajcc: yeah, you need a very special mood for gabber, or shrooms =)
16:32 electricguy this one is hilarious http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1bnFWhISvE
16:32 Bot-Mobile Title: beardyman lets his random side out! - YouTube
16:32 electricguy or this one XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow7IwpoU7Vk&amp;feature=related
16:32 Bot-Mobile Title: Cooking with Beardy Man - YouTube
16:33 ajcc JA12: :/
16:33 JA12 Sgt_Lemming: of course. nothing wrong with that. price point must be a pita to get right
16:34 Sgt_Lemming yeah
16:34 Sgt_Lemming have a contact in shenzhen now, so I might be able to get production done cheap, or at least get components very cheap
16:35 JA12 Sgt_Lemming: but why are those leds so expensive? are they extra bright or what?
16:35 ajcc JA12: I'm not a fan of romanticizing of drug use
16:35 Sgt_Lemming no
16:35 Sgt_Lemming just that there are 160 of them
16:35 ajcc that's one insanely hard word to spell :/
16:35 Sgt_Lemming $13 for 160 LED's is like 9c an LED
16:35 ajcc JA12: I don't share the romantic view of drug use
16:35 JA12 ajcc: I didn't mean it as such, just as a casual joke
16:36 ajcc yeah, sure it's a joke, but it's still nothing I agree with
16:37 Sgt_Lemming night all, freaking tired so I am gonna go pass out
16:37 JA12 Sgt_Lemming: night
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16:44 Monkeh noes.
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16:44 Monkeh Samsung opening a factory in China. :{
16:44 ajcc another one?
16:45 * Experimentonomen listens to Lapse in Time by Approaching Nirvana
16:46 Monkeh ajcc: They're going to start making NAND in China now.
16:46 JA12 ajcc: btw. swedish bands I've listened to lately are naglfar and marduk
16:47 ajcc hmm, those two are new to me
16:47 JA12 ajcc: bm bands
16:48 Monkeh JA12: Bollocks music? ;P
16:48 JA12 black metal
16:48 ajcc black metal :)
16:48 Monkeh So I was right
16:48 ajcc :/
16:49 Monkeh I jest, guys. :P
16:50 * ajcc &
16:53 tonsofpcs whoo! got it on a network :D
16:53 JA12 gah... fresh coffee awaits and no milk. very annoying
16:56 Ponko yeah that is annoying
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17:15 tonsofpcs now for a winnt4 ftp client :)
17:25 Monkeh Note to self: 5mW lasers are powerful enough.
17:26 Monkeh tonsofpcs: What on earth are you playing with?
17:32 electricguy my boss got dark spots in one eye dure to a 2mW green laser pointer
17:33 electricguy doesn't really matter what what color it is. but the green doesn't trigger the blink reflex in your eyes
17:33 * Experimentonomen listens to bass drums pounding on a 10" sub ran by a 40 watt tubeamp
17:33 * electricguy handles gis 50mW laser pointer with big respect
17:34 BitViper never look a laser in the eye :)
17:34 electricguy nah, they are evil :P
17:34 Experimentonomen indeed
17:34 BitViper the laser will always win the staredown
17:34 electricguy Laser = Enderman
17:34 BitViper LOL
17:34 mashpriborintorg well, it's garbage day, I made my walkaround, and found... damn nothing
17:34 BitViper please dont give the endermen lasers
17:35 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtyrCXSdFkY <-- 1kW in, 20mW out
17:35 Experimentonomen :P
17:35 Bot-Mobile Title: Argon laser and homemade PSU - YouTube
17:35 BitViper that sounds quite inefficient
17:35 mashpriborintorg Is it really so hard to dispose off a old Tek O'scope, or a broadcast camera, or an aircraft control panel, on the pavement, 30 sec before I walk over ? is it impossible ?
17:36 Experimentonomen but the beam quality is hard to match with solid state lasers
17:36 electricguy LOL
17:36 electricguy mashpriborintorg, the best thing i have found is a ipod mini gen. 2 XD
17:36 * Experimentonomen feels his floor vibrating
17:39 mashpriborintorg My best pick up are JBL 5.1 speaker set in as new condition, R&S electronic stuff, some telex and copiers, and some Macs
17:39 Experimentonomen mashpriborintorg, im getting a Vincent SV233 amplifier for free in the near future :P
17:39 electricguy mashpriborintorg, oh, nice :)
17:40 Experimentonomen the owner of it just needs to find a way to ship it
17:40 mashpriborintorg not counting the craptacular things I picked just for parts
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17:44 Cprossu good morning/afternoon/night everyone
17:44 y007-nb hai
17:44 electricguy evening Cprossu ;)
17:49 Monkeh electricguy: Yeah, green is what just bit me.
17:49 ajcc http://www.eagledaq.com/pc-63c-16channel-reed-relay-board-digital-io is just won an auction for one of those boards :D but it ended at a single euro
17:49 Bot-Mobile Title: PC-63C - 16 Channel Reed Relay Board with Digital I/O - EAGLE Data Acquisition
17:49 electricguy green?
17:49 Monkeh electricguy: My little red one (probably 2-3mW) is utterly harmless. The green one.. that thing bites.
17:49 ajcc electricguy: yep, you saw it? at the Swedish ebay ebay?
17:49 electricguy oh! i see
17:50 electricguy ajcc, wasn't talking to you :)
17:50 ajcc hehe, I noticed that
17:50 electricguy :)
17:51 electricguy serioulsy... how hard is it to find an old chunky ipod really cheap...
17:52 Ponko hmm
17:52 ajcc the most awesome thing is probably that I already have a two pairs of DB37 connectors at home
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17:56 electricguy mailed a guy who sells a pair of ipod mini's... 20 bucks each
17:57 electricguy i'm tempted to mod one to use a 2.5" IDE HDD
17:57 electricguy and the one i got is a bit scuffed up as it's a dumpsterfind... XD
17:59 ajcc isn't it a 1.8" or smaler drive in iPods?
18:00 Experimentonomen its a microdrive i think
18:00 ajcc I got a 4GB one of those :)
18:01 Cprossu electricguy are you having problems?
18:02 electricguy tried some different texture packs
18:02 electricguy ajcc, it's a MicroDrive. same size and interface as a CF card
18:02 mashpriborintorg I think Chris as a microdrive waiting on the autopsy pile
18:02 electricguy i have upgraded my 4GB ipod mini to a 8GB solid state device by putting a compact flash card init :)
18:03 electricguy it's aslo running RockBox instead of the pure SHIT OS it runs in original :P
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18:11 JA12 is that a trademark name for it? =)
18:14 Kaytee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOhQlWFdiik enjoy.
18:14 Bot-Mobile Title: The Three Tenors - Libiamo Ne' Lieti Calici - YouTube
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18:17 Monkeh JA12: I thought it was iamnotanOS
18:18 JA12 Monkeh: maybe electric used its unofficial name so that he doesn't get sued
18:20 tonsofpcs ok, I have it backing up now :)
18:25 JA12 Monkeh, electricguy: in case you're not aware, eyeOS exist http://eyeos.org/
18:25 Bot-Mobile Title: eyeOS – Cloud Computing – Web Desktop – Cloud Desktop
18:25 electricguy compatible with ipod mini?
18:25 JA12 no
18:26 tonsofpcs now I'll need to get the NT password 'recovery' [removal] tool on a floppy and a floppy with compaq scsi drivers....
18:26 tonsofpcs also, a floppy drive :)
18:26 JA12 just namewise
18:26 Monkeh JA12: Cloud desktop, so when the US gets nuked I can lose my desktop. Fail!
18:26 electricguy sounds sucky
18:27 JA12 Monkeh: I've tried the demo. kinda weird to use desktop with your browser but it works =)
18:34 Ponko ahh i do love some hot nuts
18:38 Ponko i bet almost everyone active in here got an innuendo lol
18:42 MoxieMike no, bar nuts are great when warm
18:47 Ponko MoxieMike: they're the best but are somewhat costly
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18:49 roadran422|schoo Hi!
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18:49 roadran422|schoo Why is botsteve being down?
18:49 kiks hi guyz can any body tell me the procedure to make a samall newton's cradle?
18:49 roadran422|schoo Ok. one second xD
18:50 roadran422|schoo http://bit.ly/zhA9A6
18:50 Bot-Mobile Title: Let me google that for you
18:51 tonsofpcs roadran422: he's working on the physical server
18:51 roadran422 Oh ok
18:53 roadran422 kiks you got it?
18:54 kiks hey i got that info before also but i cant understand it can you plz xplain me?
18:54 roadran422 Uhm... That's not a question to ask me really....
18:54 roadran422 tonsofpcs: help him xD
18:57 kiks means i tried to make it but its not working properly as i want
18:57 Experimentonomen pizzatime :P
18:57 kiks for that which kind of metalic sphere i want to use?
18:57 kiks & which kind od of string i can use?
18:59 Experimentonomen find some ball bearings of desired size, then drill small holes in each and glue in some fishing line
19:01 kiks ok Experimentonomen thnx i'll try & tell you afterwards in somehours
19:04 Experimentonomen though ball bearings are hardened so u may need to just surface flue the string trsther than trying to drill holes
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19:07 kiks ok i'll try by the way thank you
19:07 kiks very much
19:07 iSasha Ok, someone HAS to buy this for me http://gizmodo.com/5872971/double-drive-screwdriver-means-righty+tighty-and-lefty+tighty-too
19:07 Bot-Mobile Title: Double Drive Screwdriver Means Righty-Tighty and Lefty-Tighty Too
19:10 mashpriborintorg Chris would love it for equipment autopsy, almost the speed of an electrical screwdriver, without the noise :)
19:14 iSasha Yes, but I would love a working one in my hand. Unfortunately I live an ocean away from the closest Lowes...
19:14 roadran422 sasha, where do you live?
19:17 JA12 switzerland
19:17 roadran422 Oh...
19:18 JA12 if it's the same Sasha who was mentioned in latest captains blog
19:18 roadran422 Well, there should be a lowes? Or is it america only?
19:18 roadran422 Oh true JA12 xD
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19:18 roadran422 The world gets smaller everyday.
19:18 JA12 roadran422: and .ch is switzerland
19:18 JA12 :P
19:19 roadran422 Bot's off for a day xD
19:20 JA12 (china is cn. I have had to look that up before because a friend of mine was in switzerland and I thought he was somehow in china)
19:20 DruidicRifleman hey
19:21 JA12 hi
19:21 roadran422 lol
19:25 wannabe-afk hi
19:26 Guest47355 awwww
19:27 wannabe1987 there
19:27 * wannabe1987 makes noises at computer insulting its intelligence
19:29 electricguy lol
19:29 wannabe1987 where did everyone go?  i'm not *that* scary....
19:29 electricguy hi hi wannabe1987 :P
19:29 wannabe1987 hi electricguy
19:29 electricguy sigh.. brb. gonna blow my nose
19:30 wannabe1987 lol
19:30 wannabe1987 elephante
19:30 JA12 wannabe1987: making dinner (at night)
19:30 wannabe1987 oooo whats for dinner?
19:30 wannabe1987 i've got my dinner planned out....i just have to make it (later)
19:32 JA12 a simplified version of lasagna, no idea what it's called in english
19:32 wannabe1987 cool
19:33 JA12 real lasagna has 2 sauces in it. this has only 1
19:33 wannabe1987 sounds easier
19:33 * electricguy returns
19:33 wannabe1987 how was your trip?
19:33 electricguy slimy and exhausting
19:34 electricguy :P
19:34 electricguy slimey*
19:34 wannabe1987 nifty
19:34 Experimentonomen eww
19:34 electricguy :P
19:34 wannabe1987 nothing is 'ew" when you'r ein the medical field, Experimentonomen
19:35 Experimentonomen my nose runs like a open tap at times :/
19:35 Experimentonomen and then minutes later it stops faster than it started
19:35 wannabe1987 yummmy
19:35 Av_Nekoroms yay got a router/firewall thingy :)
19:35 Av_Nekoroms so your homenetwork isnt so open for everyone
19:35 Av_Nekoroms *our
19:36 electricguy nice
19:36 Av_Nekoroms currently using a dlink 24 port router :)))
19:36 * wannabe1987 read home network as homework and was confused
19:36 Av_Nekoroms bit overkill
19:36 electricguy i trashpicked 3 brand spaning new 4 slot switches some weeks ago. not idea what i'm gonna do with them
19:36 electricguy toys with plastic casing..
19:36 electricguy spanking*
19:37 Experimentonomen www.blocket.se ;)
19:38 Av_Nekoroms 24 port router is good.. but for 3 computers its a bit unnecessary
19:38 electricguy lol
19:38 electricguy yeah i had a pair of 24 slot switches in my bedroom a while ago...
19:38 electricguy was a wee bit overkill for one computer... XD
19:38 electricguy only got one 16 slot switch now
19:38 electricguy also trashpicked
19:39 electricguy was just a little dusty, otherwise almost like new
19:39 JA12 electricguy: were those 4 slot switches gb or just 10/100
19:39 wannabe1987 "man gouges uncle's eyes out over argument over remote control for tv"  overkill much?
19:39 electricguy 10/100
19:40 JA12 electricguy: that could be the reason why they were in a trash
19:40 electricguy JA12, yes, i know they are, cause that company upgraded to Gbit at that point
19:40 electricguy so they tossed away some perfectly good switches
19:40 JA12 :D
19:41 electricguy i left some shitty 16 slot 19" rack mount 3COM with plastic casing
19:41 Coderjoe a switch is not a router
19:41 electricguy i knopw
19:41 electricguy know*
19:41 JA12 Coderjoe ?
19:41 electricguy otherwise one of them wouldn't exist
19:41 Coderjoe <Av_Nekoroms> 24 port router is good.. but for 3 computers its a bit unnecessary
19:41 JA12 ah
19:41 electricguy and then i just said what i had at home... no real connection to a router
19:42 electricguy makes me wonder though, is it a true 24 slot router or a single router with a big switch?
19:42 electricguy sound unneccesary with a 24 slot router
19:42 JA12 I have a router that has 4 ports but it's just combined router+switch
19:42 electricguy yeah that's what it use to be
19:43 JA12 never seen a "real" router that had so many ports
19:43 electricguy nah, they use to be combined with switches
19:43 JA12 fiber ports, management port, that's it
19:43 Coderjoe if you have a real router with 24 ports, it would generally be big expensive telco gear
19:43 electricguy we bought a new router for work. it only got 2 ports
19:44 electricguy in from the modem and out to the switch
19:44 Coderjoe *if* such a beast even exists
19:44 electricguy lol yeah
19:44 electricguy hmmm.... maybe i should mod a 19" rack switch... :P
19:44 electricguy hardwire a router inside it
19:45 electricguy and block one port on the front where the router is connected
19:45 Av_Nekoroms offcourse its really a switch but i couldnt care enough :)
19:45 electricguy lol
19:45 Coderjoe i have two cisco routers which have one or two fixed ports and 4 slots to put cards for different types of wan connection
19:46 electricguy i got a D-Link DES-1016 switch here, but it's configured in some way. and i need a special config cable and software i can't find to do a factory reset on it -,-
19:47 electricguy yeh this D-Link got some slot in module with a pair of RJ45 on it. there are also fiber modules and stuff for it
19:51 JA12 electricguy: as you mentioned, it's a shame that so much good hw gets tossed in to the bin. everyone talks about being green and all, so using old hw as long as they last would be a nice idea
19:51 electricguy yeah
19:51 electricguy exactly
19:52 JA12 companies could help and even get some money back but no
19:52 electricguy yeah
19:53 electricguy hrm.. i got a RAne DSP i want to do something fun with
19:53 Av_Nekoroms i usually replace something when they blow up
19:53 electricguy Rane*
19:54 electricguy a laptop to program it with would be nice...
19:54 SparkyProjects electricguy, here's a manual (multilingual) there's something about factory reset there
19:54 SparkyProjects ftp://ftp.dlink.co.uk/switches/des-1024/des-1016_1024.pdf
19:54 Av_Nekoroms :)
19:54 Av_Nekoroms electricguy: dbx rocks around here
19:54 electricguy dbx?
19:54 Av_Nekoroms http://www.dbxpro.com/
19:55 Bot-Mobile Title: dbx® Professional Products
19:55 electricguy ahh!!
19:55 electricguy now when i see it i remember whe had some dbx thing in school
19:55 electricguy but i got my DSP for free :)
19:56 electricguy and thx SparkyProjects
19:56 Av_Nekoroms i use digital systems so i dont need no speaker processors or compressor/limitters
19:56 Av_Nekoroms just install the plugin i want to use
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19:58 electricguy SparkyProjects, yeah the factory reset can only be done via a PC
19:58 electricguy with a config cable :/
19:58 SparkyProjects Ah, that sucks
19:58 electricguy it sucks so hard that i can't config via browser or telnet
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19:59 electricguy and i don't know what the software is called
19:59 electricguy anyways, coffee time!
19:59 Av_Nekoroms just shoot it with a tank and be happy :)
19:59 electricguy can pbobably use the box and PSU for something. lol
19:59 electricguy brb
19:59 wannabe1987 .in 70min laundry
19:59 Bot-Mobile wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 21:09Z
20:00 wannabe1987 thanks Bot-Mobile
20:00 Bot-Mobile You're welcome, wannabe1987
20:10 wannabe1987 ....theres a body in the pond on aquinas' campus...
20:11 wannabe1987 aquinas is a college in grand rapids
20:16 sndwrx Nice.
20:17 sndwrx There are still plenty of far worse places to be, but Grand Rapids just isn't the city it used to be.
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20:17 wannabe1987 yeah, but its not like gary IN either
20:17 sndwrx I can only imagine what condition crummy cities are in nowadays.
20:17 * masterofmonks glomps CaptainNiobe and then procedes to get more and more NSFW as the seconds pass.
20:18 wannabe1987 o.O  hi masterofmonks, niobe
20:18 sndwrx Smells like a cigar in here.
20:18 sndwrx hm.  Like a combination of cigar and cotton candy.
20:18 CaptainNiobe ... you may be my boyfriend and fellow op, mom, but don't think i won't kick you :P
20:18 wannabe1987 Seroster might
20:18 * masterofmonks holds Seroster up as a decoy.
20:18 sndwrx ..might what?  Grab a bowl of popcorn?
20:19 wannabe1987 haha
20:19 wannabe1987 lol
20:19 wannabe1987 no, kick mom
20:19 wannabe1987 no, /kick mom*
20:19 wannabe1987 what, you grabbing a bowl of popcorn for the show?
20:19 wannabe1987 o.O
20:19 sndwrx No.  I was adding to your Seroster comment.
20:19 sndwrx I, my dear, am going AFK again.  :P
20:19 wannabe1987 mhm
20:20 wannabe1987 good luck
20:20 wannabe1987 have fun working :/
20:20 Ponko hmm this has been a day where i haven't said much on here
20:20 wannabe1987 is that ok with you?
20:20 electricguy oki, i'm back :)
20:21 wannabe1987 another slimey trip?
20:21 wannabe1987 o.O
20:21 * wannabe1987 has a horrific headache :(
20:21 wannabe1987 work was easy tho
20:21 * electricguy gives wannabe1987 painkillers and lots of water
20:22 wannabe1987 thanks
20:22 * Experimentonomen looks at CaptainNiobe
20:22 wannabe1987 i should really do that :P
20:23 electricguy :)
20:23 * wannabe1987 doesn't know if niobe is awake
20:23 electricguy HAHAHAH! XD http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=GXGvNZOEImM
20:23 Bot-Mobile Title: DO YOU SMOKE? The funniest prank ever! - YouTube
20:23 CaptainNiobe yea, Experimentonmen? :D
20:23 Ponko hmm
20:24 * iSasha awakens from the silent
20:24 wannabe1987 hi iSasha
20:24 iSasha hi wannabe1987
20:24 wannabe1987 niobe, control that boy/man/male creature!
20:24 CaptainNiobe ??? which one?
20:24 wannabe1987 yours...duh
20:24 Ponko mofmonks?
20:25 wannabe1987 yes
20:25 * Ponko sighs
20:25 CaptainNiobe what did he do now? lol
20:25 Ponko what's he done now
20:25 wannabe1987 :facepalm:
20:25 wannabe1987 i hear an echo
20:25 Ponko lol
20:25 wannabe1987 "@masterofmonks glomps CaptainNiobe and then procedes to get more and more NSFW as the seconds pass."
20:25 wannabe1987 that
20:26 Ponko ahh
20:26 CaptainNiobe (6:18:33 AM) CaptainNiobe: ... you may be my boyfriend and fellow op, mom, but don't think i won't kick you :P
20:26 CaptainNiobe :P
20:26 iSasha I thought that this channel didn't include NSFW content complimentary...
20:26 Ponko me thinks he'd get a kick out of that kick
20:26 Ponko lol
20:26 mashpriborintorg Sleep time for me , bye
20:26 Experimentonomen nite mash
20:26 Ponko sleep well
20:26 wannabe1987 yes, i know niobe
20:26 wannabe1987 night mashpriborintorg
20:27 CaptainNiobe it doesn't normally. i think we know how far we can go (which is, not very here)
20:27 mashpriborintorg thanks
20:27 wannabe1987 but you should really attmept to make him behave
20:27 Ponko lol CaptainNiobe
20:27 iSasha Heh, I'm pulling an all nighter tonight...
20:27 Ponko i've seen the NSFW wall before though
20:27 masterofmonks iSasha: there was no actual NSFW content.
20:27 Ponko he just said he was getting that way
20:27 wannabe1987 why are you pulling an all-nighter?
20:28 iSasha Well, I didn't click it. Just commented to not look like an outcast-er :P
20:28 Ponko because he's a Bowssss
20:28 iSasha wannabe1987 because I can't work in peace when there are too many distractions
20:28 wannabe1987 ah
20:28 iSasha .yt like a boss
20:28 Ponko fair enough
20:28 Bot-Mobile iSasha: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c
20:28 Ponko :P
20:28 * wannabe1987 wants to know how far done her computer is.... ajprog_laptop?
20:29 Ponko love those guys iSasha
20:29 iSasha :P
20:29 Ponko too funny
20:30 iSasha I wonder if Chris watches things like tshi
20:30 iSasha *this
20:31 Ponko i do like the massive fight scene in Cannonball Run
20:31 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCFVEvZvo3g classic TV
20:31 Bot-Mobile Title: The Professionals Theme Tune - YouTube
20:31 iSasha OMG I just downloaded that movie like recently
20:32 Ponko you seen it before
20:32 Ponko i'm watching my VHS of it :P
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20:32 iSasha :facepalm:
20:33 Ponko brb gonna microwave my nuts
20:34 Seroster This sofa was never made for sleeping in
20:34 Seroster Ow
20:34 Seroster My arm. :c
20:34 wannabe1987 good luck, Ponko
20:34 wannabe1987 hi Superphosphate
20:34 Ponko lol that's funny
20:34 Superphosphate Hello :)
20:34 Ponko i mention microwaving nuts and who comes back Seroster well timed sir
20:35 Seroster lol
20:35 Seroster Superphosphate!
20:35 Seroster Hi!
20:35 Superphosphate Hi Hi
20:35 * wannabe1987 is cold. should i make tea?
20:35 wannabe1987 i would rather have coffee, but i have no maker
20:36 Superphosphate make some hot chocolate
20:36 wannabe1987 i don't have any mix :/
20:36 Superphosphate aaw
20:36 Superphosphate dont you have instant coffee?
20:36 wannabe1987 nor do i have chocolate, other than hershey kisses w/ candy canes in them
20:37 wannabe1987 i got some instant coffee in the mail yesterday ...
20:38 Seroster Waaaat
20:38 Seroster You dont have any mix?
20:38 Seroster You need cocoa and sugar
20:38 wannabe1987 i don't have cocoa!
20:39 wannabe1987 i'm still building my kitchen/ingredients
20:39 Superphosphate does the mail arrived coffee smell like coffee?
20:39 ajcc cocao sugar and vanilla suger :), and a tiny pinch of salt
20:39 Superphosphate ah yes the salt makes it less bitter :)
20:39 Seroster Fuck yeah ajcc
20:39 wannabe1987 i don't know, i didn't open it....
20:40 wannabe1987 i'd have to wait 2 weeks to make vanilla sugar
20:40 electricguy_ doing some crap in the lab www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
20:40 Superphosphate are you growing vanilla beans?
20:40 Seroster Most of us just buy it
20:40 ajcc Superphosphate: you should really just have less cocoa to make it less bitter :P
20:40 wannabe1987 i'd love to....but no.  i'd have to buy vanilla beans and let them sit in the sugar for 2 weeks....
20:40 Ponko wannabe1987: you got instant coffe
20:40 wannabe1987 unless i go to the expensive spice store and buy the damn stuff
20:41 ajcc can't you buy vanilla sugar in the states?
20:41 wannabe1987 you can, just not at meijer.
20:41 wannabe1987 and i will not go to walmart
20:41 wannabe1987 i'd have to go to the spice store thats a mile or two north of the lab and get it there.
20:42 wannabe1987 i live west of the lab, so its a bit out of my way, unless my netbook gets finished and i go pick it up
20:42 Seroster ajcc, the salt works as a taste enhancer, and it does mask some of the bitterness without having to use less cocoa. MonoSodiumGlutamate would probably work fine aswell
20:42 Superphosphate noo not MSG!!!
20:42 wannabe1987 msg is bad for you
20:42 Seroster If you just let the vanilla beans sit in the sugar you get crappy vanilla sugar
20:42 Seroster Yeah, so is the sugar
20:43 Superphosphate i electricguy Im watching you fiddeling
20:43 ajcc Seroster: MSG tastes like instant noudles, that's actually the only taste apart from salt
20:43 Seroster I never eaten pure MSG
20:43 electricguy_ Superphosphate, oki
20:43 ajcc Seroster: I'm sure you have eaten almost pure MSG, many times,
20:43 Seroster I didnt know that electricguy could play the fiddle =P
20:43 Superphosphate electricguy, what are you making?
20:44 electricguy_ fixing the terminals on my DMM atm
20:44 electricguy_ well, one of the DMMs XD
20:44 Superphosphate cool
20:44 Seroster Name one instance, ajcc =P
20:44 Cprossu MSG used as meat tenderizer really fucks me up bad.
20:44 wannabe1987 msg and aspartame make one of my friends homicidal....it fucks him up too
20:44 Superphosphate They stopped using it in Australia like 20 years ago
20:45 Seroster Does anyone actually like the taste of aspartame?
20:45 ajcc Seroster: the last time you had instant noudles, used any kind of powder spice-mix (like taco or grill or whatever)
20:45 Cprossu I mean it makes me barf out of one hole and spew out another. =P
20:45 wannabe1987 i prefer diet coke over regular coke....
20:45 Seroster Superphosphate, I suppose they are scared it will grow legs and eat up their toads =)
20:45 Superphosphate lol those cane toads are really awful
20:46 Superphosphate They are ugly as and have poison glands
20:46 Seroster ajcc, Actually, I have never eaten pure spice mix. =P
20:46 ajcc :P
20:46 Seroster I don't own any spice mixes
20:46 Cprossu the nissin instant noodles have more concentrated msg than any other brand I've had
20:46 ajcc wannabe1987: Meijer got tons of vanilla extract at their website
20:47 wannabe1987 i don't need vanilla extract...i get that from haiti
20:47 ajcc and vanilla beans as well
20:47 wannabe1987 mhm
20:47 wannabe1987 they just don't have vanilla sugar
20:47 Seroster E-621
20:48 Ponko ahhh nice
20:50 ajcc hmm, don't you guys have vanillin sugar in the states?, after all you're the guys who invented the stuff so you could make vanilla ice cream
20:50 wannabe1987 we have vanilla sugar
20:50 Seroster Fuck vanillin sugar
20:50 wannabe1987 just not at meijer
20:51 ajcc hmm
20:55 * wannabe1987 needs a teapot
20:55 Superphosphate teapots come in heaps of shapes
20:55 electricguy_ i wonder what to do with this switch...
20:55 ajcc electricguy_: switch it ON!
20:55 wannabe1987 i know...i'm just poor and can't buy one :P
20:56 wannabe1987 electricguy_, you has tail
20:56 ajcc wannabe1987: thrift store?
20:56 electricguy_ it's boring just to switch it on XD
20:56 electricguy_ wannabe1987, yes. the lab computer
20:56 ajcc don't buy anything brown though, it might be cadmium
20:56 Cprossu Superphosphate: http://www.kitchencritic.co.uk/upload/2009/02/shatter-teapot.jpg
20:56 Superphosphate make a fancy led display
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20:56 Cprossu ^ really fucked up
20:57 Superphosphate Cprossu, cool
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20:57 Druidrifleipod Hey
20:58 wannabe1987 i'd go to the trhift store if i could afford something :P
20:58 wannabe1987 hi Druid
20:58 electricguyLab if i had a ITX mobo i could have built a computer in the box
20:58 wannabe1987 maybe after my paycheck :P
20:59 electricguyLab and used the guts from a smaller 16 slot switch with the same frontend
20:59 Druidrifleipod I have to go to the library to borrow some cds
20:59 electricguyLab to make a computer/switch combo
20:59 ajcc hmm, Meijer isn't the place for people allergic to latex, unless they fancy lamb skin :/
21:00 Superphosphate http://images.google.com/imgres?q=star+trek+teapot&amp;hl=nl&amp;lr=lang_nl&amp;newwindow=1&amp;sa=N&amp;biw=1441&amp;bih=656&amp;tbs=lr:lang_1nl&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbnid=VD7FZG5oWSqnGM:&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.faziarizvi.net/tea/archives/category/tea-art&amp;docid=o0nRH6yEmBVHxM&amp;imgurl=http://www.faziarizvi.net/tea/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ufo_teapot.jpg&amp;w=430&amp;h=312&amp;ei=o70ET4OrL8yi-gam4uS9AQ&amp;zoom=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=772&amp;vpy=149&amp;dur=532&amp;hovh=191&amp;hovw=264&amp;tx=142&amp;ty=113&amp;s
21:00 ajcc wow, that just broke my terminal
21:00 wannabe1987 lol
21:00 Coderjoe http://www.faziarizvi.net/tea/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/ufo_teapot.jpg
21:00 Coderjoe there's the actual url from that
21:00 ajcc Coderjoe: neat one :)
21:01 Superphosphate thanks Coderjoe
21:01 ajcc Superphosphate: I thought it was a SS Enterprise tea pot
21:01 ajcc reading the first url
21:01 Coderjoe and the page it was on: http://www.faziarizvi.net/tea/archives/category/tea-art
21:01 Bot-Mobile Title: All About Tea » tea art
21:02 wannabe1987 lol
21:03 ajcc http://uploads.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/6a00e54ed05fc288330120a526dc19970b-800wi.jpg well, it's not a teapot, but it's ss enterprise
21:03 Seroster wannabe1987, A good teapot is about a buck at your local goodwilll
21:04 Superphosphate lol cool dog
21:04 wannabe1987 yes.  i know
21:04 Druidrifleipod Epic pet costume
21:05 ajcc :]
21:06 Superphosphate http://images.google.com/imgres?q=star+trek+teapot&amp;hl=nl&amp;lr=lang_nl&amp;newwindow=1&amp;sa=N&amp;biw=1441&amp;bih=656&amp;tbs=lr:lang_1nl&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbnid=O4d0s77OtJNEaM:&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.thelocalmerchant.com/Product%2520Detail/Porcelain/Saenger.htm&amp;docid=jRFVlQV_tR9p5M&amp;imgurl=http://www.thelocalmerchant.com/images/Porcelain/saenger1.jpg&amp;w=2400&amp;h=1600&amp;ei=Pb8ET-jkIcqDOpiCnbQB&amp;zoom=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=644&amp;vpy=359&amp;dur=5218&amp;hovh=183&amp;hovw=275&amp;tx=154&amp;
21:06 Superphosphate sorry again
21:06 Superphosphate this is Piccards teapot
21:08 ajcc it's quite odd looking
21:08 SparkyProjects Superphosphate, if you click on the image of a page like that, (or the image thing in the right hand column) you should get a shorter url for just the image
21:09 Superphosphate Thasnks, I was waiting for someone to tell me how to do that :)
21:09 wannabe1987 just ask...
21:09 Bot-Mobile wannabe1987: laundry
21:10 Ponko hmm
21:10 wannabe1987 yay laundry!
21:10 Ponko Batty aint here
21:10 Superphosphate It has to look odd or it couldnt be on star trek :-p
21:10 wannabe1987 lol true
21:10 Ponko i guess he's at the JLA
21:10 ajcc Superphosphate: the Macintosh didn't look odd and it was on Star Trek
21:11 Superphosphate true
21:11 wannabe1987 note to self:  next time, heat level at 3, 4 is too spicy!
21:11 Superphosphate but a normal teapot would still look out of place on the enterprise
21:12 Cprossu ajcc, that poor dog.
21:12 ajcc Cprossu: indeed :(
21:14 electricguy sigh, nothing feels very tempting to do when you are sick.. :/
21:15 Superphosphate do you have a cold electricguy?
21:15 electricguy yeh
21:15 Superphosphate aaw
21:15 ajcc electricguy: http://www.youtube.com/show/startrek there you go
21:15 Superphosphate I had it on Christmas day
21:15 Bot-Mobile Title: Star Trek - YouTube
21:15 ajcc no wait, sorry
21:15 ajcc that's the wrong one
21:15 ajcc hmm
21:15 electricguy lol ajcc
21:16 wannabe1987 .in 60min laundry
21:16 Bot-Mobile wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 22:16Z
21:16 Superphosphate electricguy, no matter how uselles life feels right now, it will pass
21:16 electricguy one thing i want to do is casemodding my computer
21:17 electricguy Superphosphate, yeah
21:17 ajcc dammit, the full star trek tos isn't on youtube anymore :(
21:17 electricguy planning to cut up a 120mm hole in the front and mount a fan in it to get some sort of airflow throught this crap chassie
21:17 Superphosphate thats outrageous!!
21:17 Superphosphate yes, good idea
21:18 Superphosphate airflow is vital
21:18 electricguy yeh
21:18 electricguy and this fractal design chassie sux balls when it comes to airflow
21:18 ajcc .in 5min implode
21:18 Bot-Mobile ajcc: Okay, will remind at 21:23Z
21:18 Superphosphate Im into leds, and the led covered computer fans are awesome
21:18 wannabe1987 airflow is why my computer (laptop) rests on a thick hardcover (cook)book
21:19 electricguy i have ripped out the HDD bay already, cause that was mounted 90 degrees from the fan and about 5mm from the fan.. IE. totally blocking it
21:19 Superphosphate I had to buy a fan for under my laptop
21:19 electricguy i put the harddrives in the floppy bay instead
21:19 ajcc .in 0min explode
21:19 Bot-Mobile ajcc: That's a bit unlikely, don't you think?
21:19 ajcc aw
21:19 Superphosphate who designed that computer?
21:20 Superphosphate sounds like they are not a smart cookie
21:20 electricguy what? my chassie?
21:20 Superphosphate did you build it from scratch?
21:21 electricguy yes i did. got the chassie for free
21:21 Superphosphate ah cool
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21:21 wannabe1987 my mouth hurts
21:22 electricguy some pics from when i swapped the PSU in it http://imgur.com/a/A6o4s
21:22 Bot-Mobile Title: EG's new computer PSU - Imgur
21:22 Superphosphate too much  MSG flavoured tea wannabe1987?
21:22 electricguy wannabe1987, aww that sucks!
21:22 wannabe1987 no.  spicy food
21:22 wannabe1987 i'm chugging milk
21:22 wannabe1987 chocolate milk
21:22 Experimentonomen yuck
21:22 wannabe1987 ?
21:23 ajcc wow, people have way to much money to spend on computers :)
21:23 Cprossu what kinda caps did corsair use on the gs series electricguy?
21:23 Superphosphate milk is the best thing to have
21:23 wannabe1987 mhm
21:23 Bot-Mobile ajcc: implode
21:23 ajcc :O
21:23 wannabe1987 lol
21:23 electricguy Cprossu, no idea. but i hope a 70 dollar PSU is somewhat good
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21:23 Superphosphate electricguy, now thats what I call a fan!!!
21:23 Cprossu well it's corsair, but the builder series makes me question them now
21:24 electricguy lol. it's a 140mm in that PSU XD
21:24 electricguy and the CPU cooler is the biggest one i could find. lol
21:25 Superphosphate Im going to bed see you guys :)
21:25 wannabe1987 night
21:25 electricguy the PSU is VERY efficient too. it barely got any heatsinks. just some tiny pieces of alu plate
21:25 electricguy and the air from it under almost full load of the computer is barely warm XD
21:25 electricguy night night Superphosphate
21:25 JA12 but why GS and not VX or TX?
21:25 ajcc do do do diiii do :)
21:26 ajcc haha
21:26 electricguy JA12, because i didn't want to spend more money on it
21:26 Cprossu http://product.pcpop.com/000276862/OriginalPic/003516345.html
21:26 Cprossu NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooo
21:26 Cprossu Samxon.
21:26 Bot-Mobile Title: ¡¾º£µÁ´¬GS600¡¿CORSAIR GS600 µçԴͼƬ,ͼƬ´óÈ«,ͼƬÏÂÔØ ÅÝÅÝÍø
21:26 Cprossu corsair I expect better!
21:27 Coderjoe and the bot fails at character encodings
21:27 electricguy well, personally i don't see it as a probelm as i have been soldering since i was 6 years old ..... :P
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21:27 JA12 electricguy: how much was it?
21:27 ajcc hmm, should inductances really be wrapped in heat-shrink like that?
21:27 electricguy so i'll just change the caps if they go bad
21:27 electricguy gonna calculate the price exactly
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21:28 electricguy ow, more than i expected, lol... 106 dollars
21:28 JA12 .calc 106 usd to eur
21:28 Bot-Mobile 81.9798917 Euros
21:28 electricguy anyways, it's LIGHTYEARS better than the crap i had before... :P
21:28 ajcc .calc 1/0
21:28 Bot-Mobile Sorry, no result.
21:28 Coderjoe why not? the heat shrink is just insulation, and does not affect the performance of the inductor. it just provides some extra protection from getting dinged during manufacture and transport of the inductor part
21:29 exor674 .calc your mom
21:29 Bot-Mobile Sorry, no result.
21:29 wannabe1987 ...
21:29 ajcc .calc 0^0
21:29 Bot-Mobile 1
21:29 ajcc now that's not right
21:29 wannabe1987 head still hurts...could be a migraine...
21:30 electricguy ouch
21:30 Coderjoe I hear MSG can cause those
21:30 Experimentonomen when i have really bad headaches, i goto bed, usually helps
21:30 exor674 .calc o^1
21:30 Bot-Mobile Sorry, no result.
21:30 exor674 .calc 0^1
21:30 Bot-Mobile 0
21:31 ajcc .calc 1^(-1)
21:31 Bot-Mobile 1
21:31 wannabe1987 i am laying down.   have had only homemade food today
21:31 Coderjoe .calc -1^(.5)
21:31 Bot-Mobile -1
21:31 Coderjoe .calc (-1)^(.5)
21:31 Bot-Mobile i
21:32 ajcc .calc 1^3 + 5^2 + 3^3
21:32 Bot-Mobile 53
21:32 ajcc ops
21:32 ajcc .calc 1^3 + 5^3 + 3^3
21:32 Bot-Mobile 153
21:32 JA12 electricguy: I expected lower price for that but maybe non-modular cables etc. doesn't drop it that much. should be a good psu still
21:33 electricguy i found much cheaper moular PSUs too
21:33 JA12 they might not be as good
21:33 electricguy but i'm not a big fan of modular ATX PSU's. have only heard bad things about them
21:33 electricguy bad connections and stuff
21:34 electricguy and i don't mind having a enormous pile of cables stuffed in on top of my CD drive XD
21:35 JA12 never heard of bad connections
21:35 Coderjoe nor have I
21:35 electricguy lol, that's the only thing i have heard about them :P
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21:36 electricguy anyways, i'm happy with my new PSU and i hope it'll work at least 2 years :P
21:36 electricguy and i'm not really loading it as the shitty psu i had before could handle it
21:36 electricguy that one was marked 500Watts
21:36 electricguy so i should say roughly 300Watts
21:37 electricguy and with shitty PSU i mean a 20 dollar PSU..
21:37 electricguy it came with a chassie that costed about 80 bucks
21:37 JA12 it didn't break anything did it?
21:38 electricguy surprisinlgy, no :P
21:38 electricguy it ran very hot though
21:38 wannabe1987 rent is paid
21:38 electricguy and the voltages were a bit scary
21:38 JA12 which reminds me of something...
21:38 wannabe1987 this isntant peppermint mocha stuff needs more peppermint
21:38 wannabe1987 .seen toastdude
21:38 Bot-Mobile Sorry, I haven't seen toastdude around.
21:38 wannabe1987 what?
21:39 wannabe1987 .seen lwq1996
21:39 Bot-Mobile wannabe1987: I last saw lwq1996 14.36 hours ago at 2012-01-04 07:17:31 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:39:03 UTC
21:39 wannabe1987 its borked
21:39 wannabe1987 ok
21:39 electricguy now my 3.3V is 3.33V my 12V is 12.28V and my 5V is 4.97V
21:39 electricguy lol
21:39 electricguy b0rk b0rk b0rk
21:40 JA12 many years ago a friend of mine bought a new GPU when it came out. it was fasters on the market at that time and stupidly expensive. when he finally got it his PSU didn't have enough juice to power the whole system, so I rigged another PSU to his computer
21:41 JA12 it was kinda cool looking when he had extra psu on his computer case =)
21:41 electricguy lol :P
21:41 wannabe1987 lol
21:41 iSasha Speaking of voltages, my parent's car battery was 15v, however wasn't able to start the car... so then we asked someone to jumpstart and they shortcircuited out whole car when they touched both contactors together....
21:41 electricguy me and a friend had the same problem
21:41 JA12 I used a random automotive relay to get it started when the other one started
21:41 * wannabe1987 goes to find the migrain meds
21:41 electricguy had a extra PSU in a nice alu box sitting on the computer
21:42 electricguy it didn't even boot -,-
21:42 electricguy i think the GPU measure the voltage between the extrenal power plug and the PCIe connector
21:42 ajcc oh, when we are talking PSUs, is it safe and or possible to run two motherboards on a single power supply?
21:42 electricguy and of course the voltage was a little off. so it shut down
21:43 electricguy ajcc, yes. if the PSU can give the poer it's safe
21:43 electricguy power*
21:43 ajcc I see
21:44 wannabe1987 is there a way to get videos to load on yt so they play smoothly and are not always buffering?
21:44 wannabe1987 they used to load but they won't anymore :(
21:44 electricguy nope
21:45 electricguy the buffering is done by youtubes servers
21:45 wannabe1987 maybe it was the computer?  they loaded on the netbook but won't on the laptop
21:45 electricguy you can try to refresh the page. then you may jump to another server with a little lcuk
21:45 Coderjoe you can pause it until it buffers enough.
21:45 electricguy a server that's not that loaded down
21:45 Coderjoe but it seems that google really messed up the CDN
21:46 wannabe1987 normally i pause and it loads (aka the grey bar ) but it won't anymore
21:46 JA12 electricguy: didn't know that psu would monitor voltage that way. was it a quality psu?
21:46 Coderjoe (and especially comcast's CDN nodes really suck)
21:46 wannabe1987 i don't know who my isp is.
21:46 wannabe1987 i don't pay it (well, directly)
21:46 electricguy wannabe1987, i had that problem a while ago too. for me it helped to pause the vid and then drag the time line dot forward a little. then it started buffering for some reason
21:46 Coderjoe at&t
21:47 electricguy JA12, no. was crap PSUs
21:47 Coderjoe also, kinda cool: http://asciiexpress.net/gameserver/
21:47 Bot-Mobile Title: Apple Game Server Online!
21:47 JA12 electricguy: what I do know is that some PSUs don't start unless there's enough load connected to it. enough = ?
21:47 electricguy but if one PSU gives a little higher voltage than the other one current is going to flow in the wrong direction into the other PSU and then it shuts down
21:47 iSasha CDN's work pretty well as long as you don't use DNS servers other than your ISP's one
21:48 iSasha Speaking of PSU's, I just found an empty one at the junk yard... it was very wierd!
21:48 electricguy enough = like 5-10Watts on the +5V rail
21:48 Coderjoe iSasha: it can still work if they use anycast dns on their end
21:50 JA12 electricguy: ok. Oa 120mm fan to the 12V rail and it was enough to get it started
21:50 JA12 enter fail
21:50 Coderjoe good lord, how is it this late already?
21:50 wannabe1987 almost 5...
21:50 iSasha Well, I never heard of that Coderjoe... but still, I noticed a considerable difference when I swapped back to default DNS. Oh, and yt speed doesn't depend on the servers, but on your internet connection.
21:50 iSasha http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=GyWc-hhfYBk
21:51 Bot-Mobile Title: Monumental iPad SLAP ! - YouTube
21:52 electricguy JA12, okey. yeah it's different on all PSUs
21:52 wannabe1987 who would name their cat "chris boden"?!
21:52 electricguy i would :3
21:52 wannabe1987 lol
21:53 wannabe1987 i wouldn't
21:53 JA12 I don't like cats much but I'm not cruel to animals either...
21:53 wannabe1987 chris is a great guy, sure, but really?
21:53 wannabe1987 lol
21:54 electricguy someone got way too much spare time and Lego http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJSfaSmmeFM
21:54 Bot-Mobile Title: LEGO awesome machine / Niesamowity mechanizm z LEGO - YouTube
21:54 injektion I've smacked my brother with my iPad too
21:54 wannabe1987 hi injektion
21:56 injektion hi
21:57 ajprog_laptop wannabe1987: your laptop has some torque screws that I can't match the size, I will check my tools at home
21:57 wannabe1987 ok
21:57 sndwrx <- headache
21:57 wannabe1987 same
21:57 wannabe1987 i got mine from the sun off the snow...
21:58 wannabe1987 it took migraine pills and its slowly going away
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21:58 Bot-Mobile TOASTY!
21:58 wannabe1987 omg
21:58 wannabe1987 hi toast
21:58 Toastdude Hi wannabe
21:59 wannabe1987 i think i'm going to make panko encrusted <spice> lime chicken and hash browns for supper later
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21:59 JA12 oh wow that's cool lego machine
21:59 wannabe1987 who wants to come over for dinner?
21:59 Coderjoe iSasha: that only is true if youtube's servers are working properly and are not overloaded
21:59 sndwrx ME
21:59 sndwrx I'm starving.
21:59 wannabe1987 come on over....
21:59 JA12 wannabe1987: I already had dinner but why not...
21:59 sndwrx I'm in Greenville.
21:59 wannabe1987 well....thats your issue
22:00 wannabe1987 start swimming?
22:00 BitViper sndwrx : mi ?
22:00 * sndwrx nods.
22:00 wannabe1987 JA12: that would be an expensive dinner, just saying
22:00 * BitViper waves from big rapids area
22:00 BitViper I just made bean soup, have plenty
22:01 wannabe1987 BitViper: you should pick him up and then come on over :nods:
22:01 iSasha Microsoft Windows... ugh, failure isn't an option, it comes bundled!
22:01 wannabe1987 lol
22:01 wannabe1987 ik
22:01 Coderjoe as well as all links between those servers and your home connection operating properly
22:01 BitViper wannabe1987 : I have enough gas in the car to make it about halfway to grnvle ... and no money to add to it :(
22:01 BitViper lol iSasha
22:01 wannabe1987 awww is that why you're not at the lab?
22:01 BitViper wannabe1987 : yep
22:02 BitViper wannabe1987 : if i could afford to get there id LIVE there
22:02 sndwrx BitViper: Goin' to Ferris, or just live there?
22:02 wannabe1987 i um have gift cards for gas from church....someday i'll start my  job :P
22:02 wannabe1987 lol
22:02 BitViper sndwrx : i live east of big rapids near mecosta
22:02 wannabe1987 why
22:03 BitViper college is long behind me, unfortunately i cant say the same about the bills =(
22:03 sndwrx Gotcha.
22:03 wannabe1987 yeah...
22:03 sndwrx Well I'm heading out in a few minutes.
22:03 wannabe1987 to where?
22:03 iSasha wannabe1987: dauwg, I'm 16 and I (kinda) have a job!
22:04 sndwrx Stop by church for Wednesday night dinner, and apparently the NOLA information meeting has been rescheduled.  So after dinner it's home time.
22:04 wannabe1987 iSasha: i'm 24 and have two jobs
22:04 wannabe1987 i just havent gotten paid yet
22:04 wannabe1987 ahhh.  my dinner will be better than church's dinner
22:04 JA12 two?
22:04 iSasha Hahahaha... the story of NOT my life :D
22:04 wannabe1987 two.
22:05 * BitViper has no life, cant afford it =(
22:05 sndwrx What are you making for dinner?
22:05 wannabe1987 i think i'm going to make panko encrusted <spice> lime chicken and hash browns for supper later
22:05 iSasha Hey, I can't afford a trip across the atlantic over to TGG HQ, but that doesn't mean I ain't going there next summer :P
22:05 sndwrx Unless it's Swiss steak and saganaki (or maybe sushi), you'll be hard pressed to beat mass produced tacos.  :P
22:05 wannabe1987 i haven't figured out the spice yet...
22:06 wannabe1987 i got new ones for christmas :D
22:06 iSasha You got new spices for christmas?
22:06 JA12 ok. I just had a Seroster moment
22:06 wannabe1987 yes.
22:07 iSasha Well at least it is not as wierd as gettting a cordless drill...
22:07 wannabe1987 i love spices.  they're from penzeys :D
22:07 Seroster Now what
22:08 JA12 in nsfw ...
22:08 iSasha #tgg-nsfw?
22:08 sndwrx What's weird about getting a drill for Christmas?
22:08 BitViper anyone around the lab willing/able to get me a bunch of photos of the outside of the building from various angles ? I can build a 3d model for google maps/earth or whatever else the lab might want to use it for.
22:08 wannabe1987 iSasha: #tgg:nsfw
22:08 JA12 iSasha: #tgg:nsfw
22:08 BitViper sndwrx : the only thing wierd would be how you use it :)
22:09 Seroster Sasha, #tgg-nsfw works fine. It just redirects you
22:09 wannabe1987 BitViper: i can do that when i get there next
22:09 wannabe1987 the sign says "we build awesome"
22:09 wannabe1987 i will probably be there tomorrow or friday, picking up my computer if jeff gets it fixed
22:10 iSasha BitViper :O
22:10 sndwrx BitViper: ha
22:11 wannabe1987 landlord doesn't get home till late tonight so i can go use the oven later :D
22:12 iSasha wannabe1987 wh... what? Where is the correlation between your landlord and the oven??
22:12 BitViper wannabe1987 : cool, the more well lit angles the better, especially from the corners
22:12 wannabe1987 there is only one oven in the house and its upstairs...
22:12 wannabe1987 then i'll do it during the day....
22:13 JA12 landlord is in the oven
22:13 wannabe1987 i might have some....let me check
22:13 wannabe1987 our kitchenette in the basement only has stove and microwave
22:13 BitViper too bad i dont still live where i did in college. i used to live just a block from the lab =/
22:14 iSasha KZ or GR lab?
22:14 BitViper gr lab
22:14 iSasha Aw... what a shame.
22:14 wannabe1987 i lived on jennette last winter :P
22:14 iSasha By the way, are there any cheap places to stay near the lab? Like 100$ a week?
22:14 BitViper used to live a block east on jeanette behind the wallgreens
22:15 wannabe1987 iSasha: ask moose, she can find couches for you to stay on
22:16 BitViper i haz couch, but im 90 minutes away from the lab =(
22:16 Bot-Mobile wannabe1987: laundry
22:16 iSasha I'm sorry BitViper, I don't want to stay with scary pedo's :P
22:16 BitViper iSasha : im not scary =P
22:17 wannabe1987 i have three couches in the basement but i can't have you stay cuz landlord would have issue
22:17 wannabe1987 and i'm 20 min from lab
22:17 wannabe1987 NO TOASTY!!!!
22:17 BitViper iSasha : what makes you think im a pedo ? electricguy been talking about me again ? LOL
22:17 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPFWfAxIiwg&amp;feature=channel_video_title about error correction codes, and the number 11 :)
22:18 Bot-Mobile Title: 11.11.11 - Numberphile - YouTube
22:18 injektion I want to try and go to GR this summer
22:18 electricguy BitViper, LULZ XD
22:18 electricguy SAFETY DANCE!!!
22:18 wannabe1987 injektion: we'd love to have you....
22:18 iSasha injektion: SAME!!! BitViper: It's called PM's
22:19 electricguy iSasha gotta be a new Apple product
22:19 * BitViper wonders who's been telling stories about him again =(
22:19 electricguy like the iRack and iRan
22:19 wannabe1987 LOL
22:19 wannabe1987 the iRack is too unstable
22:19 iSasha Ah, I love those MAD videos ;)
22:19 electricguy the iRan looks like it doesn't even want those things in there!
22:20 wannabe1987 BitViper: i don't know you, so i can't tell stories about you
22:20 iSasha BTW, electricguy, if you read the comments to today's captains blog, you would see where my username comes from
22:20 electricguy WRONG!! what the iRack needs is MORE THINGS!
22:20 ajcc it's funny how a marketing campain for an old computer with a modem built in got to become the trade mark for all of Apple's products :)
22:20 ajcc iMac, the Internet Macintosh
22:20 electricguy iSasha, i head the name Sasha in the video :)
22:20 iSasha Actually, iMac copied iRobot
22:21 iSasha BTW, I dunno if I should join the forums...
22:21 wannabe1987 yay you can hear :D
22:21 ajcc the title is actually I, Robot
22:21 electricguy fun fact for you all, Windows was first out with tablet computing! :P
22:21 wannabe1987 i bought i am legend...
22:21 electricguy in the 90's sometime with a tablet that ran some modded version of Win 3.11
22:22 electricguy and Ericsson made the worlds first smartphone in the 90's too :)
22:22 iSasha Nah, the company iRobot was based upon the film, I, Robot. You should read Gizmodo more.
22:23 Coderjoe there was also already a phone product named "iPhone" before apple announced theirs.
22:23 electricguy lol
22:23 masterofmonks wannabe1987: You should watch Omega Man
22:24 ajcc iSasha: the film is a piece of shit based on the end of a short-story in the book I, Robot
22:24 electricguy LOL
22:24 iSasha I haven't seen the film, so I can't comment.
22:24 Coderjoe http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2007/01/10/ilawsuit/
22:24 electricguy FFFFFFUUUU!!!!! youtube is down!
22:24 JA12 what? companies copying stuff and then suing other for it? nah, that doesn't happen
22:24 Bot-Mobile Title: iLawsuit! - Law Blog - WSJ
22:24 iSasha But I'm still looking for a place to stay at for 100$... anyone?
22:24 Coderjoe and the film is based on an Isaac Asimov story
22:25 iSasha electricguy WHA? MY 2 minutes ARE RUINED!!
22:25 electricguy AAAAH!!! what are we gonna do??!?!!
22:25 electricguy tee hee... XD http://28.media.tumblr.com/6xks0Ubbv9hpfz1z9gyhXpWj_400.jpg
22:26 iSasha electricguy: go to my iPhonw
22:26 iSasha *iPhonw¨
22:26 iSasha DAMMIT iPhone
22:26 electricguy preferably not :P
22:27 iSasha Why?
22:28 electricguy because everything with the word iPhone sux :P
22:28 ajcc Internet Phone is actually a good name for it
22:28 * iSasha sends an iArmy to destroy electricguy's android loving iAss
22:29 electricguy too bad he's using Win mobile
22:29 electricguy http://i594.photobucket.com/albums/tt27/Schoolroker123/12157_220127167789_525212789_420577.jpg
22:29 electricguy :P
22:29 injektion I love my iPhone
22:29 injektion Wouldn't trade it for anything
22:29 iSasha Win what? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ROFLCOPTER
22:30 ajcc 40.000 BC? would be much more fun if it said 4000 BC
22:30 electricguy and as far as i know Android can connect to other phones using bluetooth, which is quite handy :)
22:30 iSasha BTW, injektion, I agree with you
22:30 iSasha electricguy so can an iPhone.
22:30 electricguy apple fags ;P
22:30 electricguy not to other brands
22:31 injektion I like how my phone can fit fully into one of my pants pockets
22:31 ajcc people should know that there was a guy who read the entire bible, and calculated Earths real age, and it was a bit more than 6000 years old
22:31 iSasha injektion +1
22:31 iSasha BTW, look what's on dealextreme's front page today!
22:31 iSasha http://www.dealextreme.com/p/high-quality-cctv-video-camera-bnc-plug-connector-110678
22:31 Bot-Mobile Title: High Quality CCTV Video Camera BNC Plug Connector - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
22:31 ajcc iSasha: that's not a balun
22:32 ajcc that's a connector
22:32 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
22:32 electricguy just a connector and a screw terminal
22:32 wannabe1987 .in 60min laundry
22:32 Bot-Mobile wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 23:32Z
22:32 iSasha Oh wait, nevermind. My mind got confused from all those crappy connectors on ebay
22:32 wannabe1987 masterofmonks: why?
22:33 injektion I really do hope that Google loses the Android patent war to Oracle
22:33 iSasha Why?
22:33 injektion So that apps on Android are no longer in Java
22:33 electricguy very cheap baluns http://www.dealextreme.com/p/cctv-via-cat-5-twisted-pair-video-balun-transceivers-with-extension-cable-pair-27043
22:33 Bot-Mobile Title: CCTV via Cat-5 Twisted Pair Video Balun Transceivers with Extension Cable (Pair) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
22:33 Coderjoe they aren't in java
22:33 ajcc Java was a nice language, until Oracle came along
22:33 electricguy indeed
22:33 ajcc Coderjoe: they are?
22:34 JA12 mysql.com was decent until oracle came along
22:34 Coderjoe they are written in the java langauage, but they do not run on the java virtual machine
22:34 JA12 open office had its name
22:34 iSasha electricguy: yeah, but no, ebay is cheaper. BTW, I aksed about the credit card thingy on DX, and I was told that it is a security measure...
22:34 ajcc Coderjoe: well, it's a JVM, just not Oracle's JVM
22:34 wannabe1987 should i just juice the lime or zest it as well?
22:35 Coderjoe it isn't java bytecode, so no it is not a JVM
22:35 electricguy iSasha, might be some quality difference. usualy you get what you pay for
22:35 electricguy usually*
22:35 iSasha Quality difference... wait, did you just compare DX to ebay?
22:35 ajcc Coderjoe: ehm, Dalvik virtual machine
22:35 electricguy yes i did
22:35 iSasha :facepalm:
22:35 electricguy cause some of the stuff i have bought on DX isn't crap. but it costed 40 dollars...
22:36 Coderjoe ajcc: programs that run on the dalvik virtual machine are not compiled to java bytecode
22:36 electricguy it totally depends on the price.
22:36 iSasha They're pretty much the same thing. The difference is mostly in the service and community.
22:36 masterofmonks wannabe1987: Did you like I Am Legend?
22:36 electricguy common sense, really cheap usually means it's total crap
22:37 electricguy even if it got a nice shiny casing the guts use to be crap anywys
22:37 electricguy anyways*
22:37 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
22:37 Bot-Mobile TOASTY!
22:37 ajcc Coderjoe: Dalvik uses it's own oddbal ways to do things to minimize memory use, but it's still bytecode, sorry dude.
22:38 Coderjoe those baluns don't carry power and don't use rj45
22:38 ajcc baluns don't carry power, ever
22:38 Coderjoe i didn't say it wasn't bytecode, but it is NOT _JAVA_ bytecode
22:38 ajcc omg....
22:38 Coderjoe you can have different bytecodes, just like you have different processor instruction sets
22:39 iSasha Is anyone even interested in the dealextreme credit card thing?
22:39 iSasha 'cause I asked
22:39 electricguy no, baluns don't carry supply power. that's why DC injectors were invented
22:39 wannabe1987 masterofmonks: yes
22:40 wannabe1987 seen it once tho, thats why i bought it so i could watch it again
22:40 electricguy cause a balun carrying power would need to be some sort of switching PSU
22:40 ajcc Coderjoe: yes, yes I know. You know what, fine, keep your upside down view on how Java works, I ain't having this discussion with you any more.
22:40 ajcc stack operations != the whole fucking java bytecode instruction set
22:40 electricguy oooh! fight! *makes some popcorn*
22:40 iSasha Uh, whatever: http://club.dealextreme.com/forums/Forums.dx/threadid.1065487
22:41 Bot-Mobile Title: What's with the credit card fraud? – DealExtreme Forum
22:41 Ponko night peeps
22:41 electricguy night ponko
22:41 ajcc night Ponko
22:41 masterofmonks Then trust me and watch the following two movies Omega Man and Last Man on Earth
22:42 electricguy iSasha, you really have to cause drama wherever you go, right?
22:42 wannabe1987 when i get a chance.....i will watch movies...but i can't even play a video on this computer w/o issues, much less movies or tv shows....it even has issues with stuff stored on c:
22:42 iSasha electricguy: why, you think so :P
22:43 masterofmonks The latter can be found here.
22:43 masterofmonks http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-51739690186335997
22:43 Bot-Mobile Title: The Last Man on Earth (Public Domain)
22:43 electricguy started nagging on me cause i don't have a fucking iPhone. I don't simply because i don't like apples software. And being bitchy to that dude on dealextrem for no reason, just to try to prove you are right.
22:44 electricguy just saying
22:44 ajcc :/
22:44 iSasha I guess that's one of my (good) characters ;). And at least I use an iPhone.
22:45 ajcc pss, electricguy, just mention iPhone 5, and he'll go away
22:45 iSasha AAAArh
22:45 Coderjoe anyway, the reason for the java-type vm is to abstract away the various hardware differences, since the embedded world doesn't have a set of standards like the PC world has.
22:45 electricguy *going to tools, clicking ignore user, typing iSasha*
22:46 iSasha joined #thegeekgroup
22:46 iSasha HA! And you thought I'd quit.
22:46 injektion Comparing android and iOS is like comparing a toyota to a bmw it's something that shouldn't be done since both have their own sets of problems
22:46 ajcc Coderjoe: correct, so why would a jvm not run bytecode but native (that's binaries build for the cpu) binaries then?
22:47 Experimentonomen *yawn*
22:47 iSasha injektion: I agree. But lets agree to disagree that iOS has more problems than Android.
22:47 Coderjoe you don't need to explain to me the difference between bytecode and native. I've been doing computer programming for over 15 years
22:48 electricguy geez... stop arguing guys... no one is going to give up and it's not going to lead anywhere...
22:48 injektion iSasha: I'm trying to remain natural
22:48 injektion err
22:48 injektion neutral
22:49 injektion I need to turn off autocorrect in OS X
22:49 iSasha So am I
22:49 Coderjoe long before java, there was pcode
22:49 injektion I think upgrading to Lion was a big mistake
22:49 iSasha Why injektion?
22:49 injektion It's too iOS like for a desktop OS
22:50 iSasha Men. I like the way they did it.
22:50 iSasha *Meh
22:50 injektion They also removed AppleTalk
22:50 * electricguy listens to some industrial rave :3 *megusta.jpg* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrnmUJjo_9c&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=29&amp;feature=plpp_video
22:50 Bot-Mobile Title: X-Rx - Industrial Rave Revolution - YouTube
22:51 * Experimentonomen sips on some cheap beer and contemplates over his next project
22:52 ajcc Coderjoe: ...you know what tool Android uses to make their Java classes, that is Java Bytecode Binaries?, OpenJDK, it's javac, then it converts this class into a dex, which have a different way of handeling stack operations, that's the basics of it. It doesn't use a NON Java Bytecode, it uses a NON Oracle JVM way of handeling stack operations, and some other performance boosting things
22:52 ajcc it's that not javabyte code in your definition, fine
22:52 iSasha ^ That debating is way too nerdy for me to join
22:53 Experimentonomen iSasha, i chose to stay out of it alltogether
22:53 ManhuntFTW joined #thegeekgroup
22:53 ManhuntFTW whats up
22:53 Coderjoe will it run on a pure oracle JVM (assuming all classes are provided)
22:53 ajcc No, it will not, because the stack operations are Dalvik specific
22:54 Coderjoe if not, it is not the same bytecode. ok, so it is a very close derivative, but it is not the same
22:54 ManhuntFTW hey i got a few questions about tesla coils
22:54 ajcc and stack operations is a pretty big part of any binary
22:54 ManhuntFTW can anyone help me?
22:55 Experimentonomen ManhuntFTW, while there are a few coilers here, i think you'd get more and better info over in the tesla coil dedicated place "4hv.orc and their irc channel #hvcomm at shadowworld
22:55 Experimentonomen .org*
22:55 Coderjoe but it looks like things are a bit more similar than I had realized
22:56 Coderjoe so you want android to stop using a VM?
22:56 ajcc Coderjoe: yes, it's insanely confusing, and I didn't get your point at first. I'm sorry for the angry words. VM's are awesome, it's electricguy who think Java sux
22:56 ManhuntFTW thanks!
22:57 ajcc the problem with Dalvik is that it's using Java Technology (tm), so sadly Oracle will probably win
22:57 ajcc :(
22:57 ajcc which sux
22:57 ajcc Java could have been so beautiful
22:57 electricguy well, the only thing i think java sux for is the fact that minecraft was written in it XD. it's a damn RAM and CPU hog. minecraft would run sooo much better if it wasn't java based
22:57 BitViper 1000x better
22:58 ajcc electricguy: minecraft probably wouldn't be at all if it weren't java based, rapid development != c++ software
22:58 BitViper true enough
22:58 electricguy true
22:58 Experimentonomen and it'd cost 100x more for us to buy and we wouldent have monthly patches
22:58 electricguy and the good thing is that it's very easy to modify the game
22:58 Coderjoe and you would have no mods
22:58 * electricguy knows
22:59 * electricguy is not a total noob even if he appears to be
22:59 Experimentonomen i dont care about mods anyways, i run mc straight outta the box
22:59 ManhuntFTW by the way where would i start to build? i want to make very good resonance but i dont know how to resonate
22:59 ajcc isn't couter stricke written in C++?
22:59 ajcc counter
22:59 ajcc it got tons of mods
22:59 ajcc like half life
22:59 Coderjoe well, perhaps some, but they would be evil binary patches and stuff, likely with in-memory patching
22:59 Coderjoe ajcc: it was witten to be moddable
22:59 ManhuntFTW how to resonate a tesla coil
22:59 ajcc ehm, it's the other way around
22:59 ajcc sorry
23:00 iSasha Anyone know a good tutorial that shows how to use pot?
23:00 electricguy ManhuntFTW, i think it was killakee who built a TC, talk to him
23:01 ajcc iSasha: there's two main ways to use a pot: as a variable resistor, or as a variable voltage divider
23:01 iSasha Hmmm... which one of those is for dimming lights?
23:01 ManhuntFTW killakee, can you help me?
23:01 Experimentonomen a light dimmer uses either PWM or phase angle control
23:02 iSasha Yeah, I need to stay clear of PWM
23:02 electricguy this smells a bit arduino inspired.. :P http://www.candrian.gr/index.php/thermometer-v2-0/
23:02 Bot-Mobile Title: CAndrian Andrianakis Haris / Charalampos » Thermometer V2.0
23:03 Experimentonomen you casnnot use the pot directly, but you can wire the wiper of the pot to a mosfet and thus vary the gate from 0V to 12V and make a crude variable linear power supply
23:03 ManhuntFTW electricguy, do you know if i should match the frequency of the primary and secondary or match Xc=Xl or both?
23:03 iSasha Experimentonomen: tell me more! Or rather, link to a decent tut
23:03 ajcc iSasha: what kind of light is it?
23:03 iSasha LED
23:04 electricguy ManhuntFTW, as it's a high frequency transforemer it sounds logical to match both
23:04 iSasha But I'm looking for a tutorial that covers everything, so I could figure stuff out by myself
23:04 Coderjoe led is quite different than incandescent. for led you pretty much have to do pwm
23:05 iSasha That is not the case Coderjoe, I have seen a prototype analogical led controller, I need to replicate it
23:05 ManhuntFTW electricguy, i was just making sure about the frequency, thanks. but what about the Xc=Xl inductive and capacitive reactance.
23:05 Experimentonomen you can wire a opamp as a current amplifier and control led brightness that way
23:06 Experimentonomen the led beeing the load
23:06 iSasha Ok, how about this: will the PWM signal smoothen out if I use a capacitor?
23:06 electricguy ManhuntFTW, no idea. i'm not that skilled when it comes to telsacoils. i know the basics about it, know about high voltage and high frequencies
23:07 Experimentonomen http://radiolocation.tripod.com/LEDdimmer/LEDlampDimmer.html
23:07 Bot-Mobile Title: A linear Constant Current LED Lamp Dimmer
23:07 ManhuntFTW alright, thanks for being able to answer one of my questions :)
23:08 electricguy np :)
23:08 electricguy ok, bedtime! night night fellow geeks!
23:08 iSasha Thanks Experimentonomen
23:09 Experimentonomen http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/led_dimmer/leds_and_dimming.html
23:09 Bot-Mobile Title: LEDs and Dimming
23:09 Experimentonomen goooooooooogle is ur friend when u know how to use it :P
23:10 iSasha I was just about to say that the second link was on the first page of Google. BTW, I love this: http://www.mikesflightdeck.com/images/led_di1.jpg
23:11 ajcc it smells horrible when leds go PHTT
23:11 iSasha Really? Never thought that the smell was that bad...
23:11 ajcc well, the smell stays around for a while, which makes it bad
23:12 Experimentonomen http://www.electronics-lab.com/blog/?p=6053 <-- a simple pwm dimmer
23:12 Bot-Mobile Title: Electronics-Lab.com Blog » Blog Archive » PWM LED Dimmer Circuit
23:12 electricguy night night wannabe1987 and CaptainNiobe! as you are the ones who actually seem to care a little at least XD
23:13 ajcc electricguy: get well
23:14 iSasha Experimentonomen: The point is to use a NON-pwm circuit... btw.
23:15 ajcc iSasha: do with the 7805 in current limiting mode :)
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23:15 ajcc I'm off, take care, bye
23:16 iSasha Current limiting mode... wha? Uh, I'd better get some sleep before I start considering unicorns for dimmers...
23:19 wannabe1987 night electricguy
23:21 Cprossu hey tonsofpcs how did your project go?
23:23 tonsofpcs hi Cprossu
23:23 tonsofpcs project?
23:23 roadran422 Hey cprossu
23:26 Cprossu hey roadran422 what's new?
23:26 roadran422 Nothing much You?
23:27 Cprossu trying to fix my garrysmod and trying _not_ to go into the geek group lab minecraft server
23:27 roadran422 What do you mean by trying not to?
23:27 Cprossu I mean trying _not to_
23:27 Cprossu I want fresh eyes before I look at it again
23:27 roadran422 ... WHy
23:27 roadran422 Oh... xD
23:28 Cprossu main thing that needs done is the basement
23:28 Cprossu and it's complicated
23:28 roadran422 Oh hahahaha, everything proportional?
23:28 Cprossu there's also likely very little video of it
23:28 roadran422 That's true ^
23:28 Cprossu so I'll have to do it from memory mostly
23:28 Cprossu and to do that I need reference points
23:28 Cprossu like the shaft from upper mechanical
23:29 roadran422 That is true... Good luck xD
23:29 Cprossu if I built it close enough the reference points will line up
23:29 roadran422 Hahaha, good luck
23:29 Cprossu if I am 3 blocks off it's a catastrophe
23:29 roadran422 Wait.
23:29 roadran422 How can you make a block a custom size?
23:29 Cprossu you can't.
23:29 roadran422 Then...?
23:30 Cprossu you can however have 1/2 blocks
23:30 roadran422 How do you get a 1/4 then??
23:30 Cprossu but if you stack things on top of them they become ..well they count as a block
23:30 Cprossu so the way I did it is using basement windows as reference
23:30 roadran422 ok...
23:30 Cprossu basement windows on the actual lab = two blocks side by side in minecraft lab
23:30 roadran422 Oh!
23:30 roadran422 I'm a idiot.
23:31 BitViper need any help finishing teh building ?
23:31 roadran422 I forgot, proportional means the size is to scale hahahaha. I thought it was 1:1 xD
23:31 BitViper the minecrap versioon
23:31 Cprossu BitViper if you want to help, by all means do so!
23:31 Cprossu roadran422 the blocks in minecraft are 1M^3
23:31 BitViper Cprossu : ive never seen the real thing, but i can follow instructions
23:31 Cprossu '1:1' goes out the window
23:31 roadran422 roadran422: Exact?
23:32 roadran422 Cprossu: Ik xD hahahha
23:32 roadran422 1m^3 exact?
23:32 BitViper roadran422 : thats the scale
23:32 Bot-Mobile wannabe1987: laundry
23:32 Cprossu BitViper: first I would watch the 'lab tours' that exist for various times of the building constriction.
23:32 roadran422 Oh...
23:32 Cprossu the 'scale to real world' is 1 block = 1M^3
23:32 JA12 I just placed an order to dealextreme. it's free shipping but this time I changed the shipping method to standard just to see what it does (cost $1.70)
23:32 roadran422 You know what you should add?
23:32 wannabe1987 thx Bot-Mobile, but i'm busy :P
23:32 BitViper Cprossu : where at, somewhere on the website i assume ?
23:32 Bot-Mobile Happy to help, wannabe1987
23:32 wannabe1987 with dinner
23:32 Cprossu which means I have to throw out real world scale to make it look good
23:33 Cprossu BitViper give me a moment
23:33 roadran422 Cprossu: You should add chris with sewage water on him
23:33 BitViper chris as an npc ?
23:33 Cprossu no
23:33 Cprossu we're not doing that (yet)
23:33 BitViper lol @ yet
23:33 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/thegeekgroup and http://www.youtube.com/physicsduck
23:33 Bot-Mobile Title: Physicsduck's Channel - YouTube
23:34 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjqpqPVtPg4
23:34 roadran422 lol
23:34 Bot-Mobile Title: 2011 Building Tour - YouTube
23:34 Cprossu ^ specifically this and let me find an older tour
23:34 roadran422 ok
23:34 roadran422 You should do one in cad also xD
23:34 Cprossu no way roadran422
23:34 Cprossu I decided not to do that when I was at the lab
23:35 Cprossu it would have taken up all my time there
23:35 roadran422 xD
23:35 Cprossu screw that
23:35 roadran422 Moose, she should make a 3d scale model...
23:35 Cprossu moose has important things to do
23:35 Cprossu that ain't.
23:35 roadran422 :P
23:35 BitViper if i can get photos of the outside of the building im going to try to make a google sketchup model of it, wannabe1987 i think was gonna try to get me some pics
23:36 BitViper unless someone has actual measurements
23:36 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/thegeekgroup#p/u/120/_nke9C3Jk_c
23:36 Bot-Mobile Title: thegeekgroup's Channel - YouTube
23:36 wannabe1987 yes, wannabe will get photos of whatever anyone needs, as long as i'm allowed :/
23:37 Cprossu as for the outside of the building, the google view won't tell you enough
23:37 BitViper Cprossu ok, watching the first link, then i'll watch that one.
23:37 BitViper Cprossu : yeah google street map, etc doesnt quite provide a high enough quality image, tried that
23:37 Cprossu red had a photo of it at some point
23:38 wannabe1987 photo of what?
23:38 wannabe1987 i might have photos of the lab, i'll look when i'm done making dinner (they're on my external which isn't hooked up)
23:39 Cprossu http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249431_1837293333007_1260690192_31843092_5834249_n.jpg
23:39 BitViper too small, no corners
23:42 wannabe1987 donde esta batsteve?
23:42 BitViper i love chris's hand-held camera "rig" =)
23:43 Cprossu http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/250487_1875485247781_1260690192_31902176_54488_n.jpg
23:43 Cprossu lol corner.
23:47 tonsofpcs Seroster: I think a new ground system will fix your AC fluctuation issues
23:48 tonsofpcs http://thereifixedit.failblog.org/2011/12/14/white-trash-repairs-remember-the-earth/
23:48 Bot-Mobile Title: When Earthing, Remember The Earth - There, I Fixed It - Redneck Repairs
23:48 wannabe1987 toasty came back!
23:51 wannabe1987 ITS TOO SMALL
23:51 injektion http://thereifixedit.failblog.org/2012/01/03/white-trash-repairs-seriously-hates-raking-leaves/
23:51 wannabe1987 who wants to come eat with me????? i don't like eating alone :/
23:51 Bot-Mobile Title: Somebody Really Hates Raking Leaves - There, I Fixed It - Redneck Repairs
23:53 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: meet me at the chinese place across the street from where I am ? :D
23:54 tonsofpcs actually, I think tonight might be mac'n'cheese (and beef too maybe?) night.
23:54 wannabe1987 i already have food made...i just need someone to eat it with me
23:54 * tonsofpcs runs to wegmans before they shut down the meat counter
23:54 wannabe1987 it smells like LIME in here :D
23:55 wannabe1987 smells so good :yum:
23:55 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: if you told me 12 hours ago, I could have been there!
23:55 wannabe1987 lol
23:55 BitViper Cprossu : well im trying to watch the videos, but either my isp or boobtoob is being REAL slow
23:55 tonsofpcs ($100 cheeseburgers are even better when they're free)
23:55 wannabe1987 lol
23:55 * BitViper beats the bits out of his isp
23:56 tonsofpcs aww, batsteve isn't here to chuckle at that
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23:59 iSasha Yo guys, quick question: can I create a single wifi network from several other networks? Like, I have 2 internet connections at home, one has ethernet (however I will still use wifi), other has only WiFi, so could I take both networks and merge it into one somehow?

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