Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-01-07

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00:18 wannabe1987 theres a firefox 9 already?!
00:19 BitViper ha, im still running ff3
00:19 wannabe1987 i'm on 8 i think...
00:20 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/user/Thisisphoton
00:20 Bot-Mobile Title: Thisisphoton's Channel - YouTube
00:24 wannabe1987 what the fuck is a legume?
00:24 eadthem beans
00:24 wannabe1987 odd
00:24 wannabe1987 why not use beans then?
00:24 roadran422 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjvskVvaZ0s&context=C39e0624ADOEgsToPDskIFEdOKxvYpAUo84an45rcQ
00:24 Bot-Mobile Title: Photonicinduction Leaves You Tube Pt 1 - YouTube
00:24 roadran422 Ok... eadthem got there first
00:25 wannabe1987 someone else posted it hours ago
00:25 wannabe1987 seen it
00:25 roadran422 Ok...
00:26 Experimentonomen *yawn-'
00:26 wannabe1987 morni-wait....
00:26 wannabe1987 night?
00:26 roadran422 Morning
00:26 wannabe1987 no, he woke up 12 hoursish ago
00:27 roadran422 What's the video about?
00:27 wannabe1987 him talking
00:27 wannabe1987 and boden
00:27 wannabe1987 and boring stuff in a british accent
00:27 wannabe1987 i couldn't understand most of it
00:27 roadran422 Gist? I can't understand him....
00:27 wannabe1987 boden stole his ideas
00:28 roadran422 But, he came with it first?
00:28 roadran422 1999
00:28 wannabe1987 yeah, he had them (something about an ornament and a tesla) and then boden stole them to make money off of (or something).  like i said, i can't understand him
00:28 wannabe1987 no inflection, no nothing, all monotone :/
00:28 roadran422 Wtf?
00:29 roadran422 Only thing he really took was the ornament idea! WTF!
00:29 roadran422 And that was not big deal at all
00:30 eadthem sounds like he also might of gotten a legal issue with the outdoor laser
00:30 roadran422 xD
00:32 Seroster RIGHT PEOPLE
00:32 Seroster #TGG:CONTROVERSIAL for photonic drama
00:32 wannabe1987 yes mother dear
00:34 Seroster I think I just killed main chan.
00:35 roadran422 lol
00:35 Seroster Get your ass in there, wannabe1987.
00:35 wannabe1987 no
00:35 wannabe1987 i'm busy damnit
00:36 JA12 wha. I'm watching the video so I know what you're talking about =)
00:36 wannabe1987 good for you
00:36 wannabe1987 i'm starving, brb
00:36 roadran422 xD
00:37 Seroster Get in there JA12
00:40 BitViper just watched part of that video, good grief, he should be HAPPY that someone liked his idea, and besides, christ GAVE HIM CREDIT for the idea. sheesh
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00:41 Seroster The xmas ornament video from Chris was a fucking TRIBUTE.
00:41 Seroster Physicsduck doesnt make a fucking cent.
00:41 Seroster And you are sucha damn hypocrite for caring when Chris makes a tribute video, but NOT to care when Aussie50 directly copys throwing a rock in a washing machine.
00:41 BitViper but PI does have one valid point, if you dont want someone to try repeating your idea ... DONT PUT IT ON YOUTUBE
00:41 Seroster Copying is the highest form of praise, isnt it?
00:42 BitViper Seroster : well depends on how its done, but in this case I would certainly think so
00:42 Seroster *Notice chanel list, crap. Wrong channel. Let's get to the proper one shall we?
00:42 wannabe1987 woo for leftovers
00:43 eadthem to what Seroster said   i dont think hes pissed off at any 1 person  i think he got introuble for the laser and a couple other things and then youtube changing there skin and its just added up to this
00:44 eadthem a month back he was recommending TGG
00:44 wannabe1987 How do you find Will Smith in a snowstorm? Look for fresh prints! ...you know you smiled.
00:44 Seroster I will not respond except for in #TGG:Controversial, eadthem.
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00:48 wannabe1987 hi konstantin
00:48 konstantin hi
00:50 Seroster Ahoy konstantin
00:51 konstantin also hi
00:53 Seroster How hard is it do make soap?
00:53 wannabe1987 i doubt its difficult, why?
00:54 Seroster A friend of mine lost a hundred pounds, I want to get 100lbs of lard and make soap of it, as a present =)
00:54 wannabe1987 lol
00:54 Seroster Is it hard to dose correctly?
00:54 MoxieMike that's a LOT of soap
00:55 masterofmonks Seroster: it is not difficult to make soap.
00:55 Seroster Would be a shame if there was unreacted lye left in the soap, great for the skin eh?
00:55 masterofmonks Would you like a link for soap making instructions?
00:55 Seroster How hard is it to make reasonably pure lye?
00:55 Seroster Yeah sure
00:55 masterofmonks Seroster: just buy the lye.
00:55 Seroster And, since she's a fight club  fan I'll dye it pink =)
00:56 masterofmonks It's just sodium hydroxide.
00:56 Seroster Yeah I know
00:56 roadran422 Saponification!
00:56 Seroster NaOH
00:56 masterofmonks And you can buy that in crystaline form as drain cleaner.
00:56 Seroster Or caustic soda
00:56 roadran422 You can get some at lowes
00:56 roadran422 I have a bottle of lye at home
00:57 masterofmonks Seroster: here is one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VRGIPSBqF8
00:57 Bot-Mobile Title: Soap Making 101 - How to Make Hot Process Soap Part 1 - YouTube
00:57 Seroster I was asking how you make reasonable quality lye, not how to buy it, I can do that reasonably cheap in 1kg bottles for about two bucks a piece in the store downstreet, I want to MAKE it
00:57 roadran422 I combined it with aluminum
00:57 Seroster Great idea roadran422
00:57 roadran422 xD
00:57 Seroster Next time, do it inside an old carbon dioxide fire extinguisher
00:57 roadran422 xD
00:57 Seroster If you are a real pro you hide it under your bed befor you go to sleep.
00:57 roadran422 xD ^
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00:57 ManhuntFTW hey sparky you here?
00:58 wannabe1987 SparkyProjects
00:58 ManhuntFTW yeah
00:58 masterofmonks Seroster: you will want to boil hardwood ashes to make your own lye.
00:58 masterofmonks And it's a pain in the ass.
00:58 wannabe1987 if you say someones nick it dings them, or highlights....and then they'll know they're wanted
00:58 Seroster The lye will go into suspension and the ash will not?
00:58 wannabe1987 .t wales
00:58 Bot-Mobile wannabe1987: Sorry, I don't know about the 'wales' timezone.
00:58 wannabe1987 well, bot, you should
00:58 wannabe1987 .t london
00:58 Bot-Mobile wannabe1987: Sorry, I don't know about the 'london' timezone.
00:58 Seroster .t london
00:58 Bot-Mobile Seroster: Sorry, I don't know about the 'london' timezone.
00:58 Seroster '-'
00:58 Seroster .t gmt
00:58 Bot-Mobile Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:58:57 GMT
00:58 wannabe1987 dislike
00:59 ManhuntFTW SparkyProjects, hey you there?
00:59 roadran422 .t est
00:59 Bot-Mobile Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:59:15 EST
00:59 Seroster He's just one hour left of me, so it's my time minus 1h
00:59 wannabe1987 lol at 19:58 Bot-Mobile said its 19:59
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01:04 injektion What is the most non-reactive dry acid I can use that I could add to a fluid
01:04 DruidicRifleman for any wow fans who wanna know exactly the world of asseroth is in WOW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WDGctL9WiQ&feature=channel_video_title
01:04 Bot-Mobile Title: MUD2MMO : VIRTUAL SCIENCE!!!! - YouTube
01:04 Hackbat woooo I hacked my kindle touch for real :3
01:05 injektion Or what is the most corrosive acid I can legally buy
01:08 JA12 injektion: what do you mean with _dry_ acid? in powder form?
01:08 injektion Yes
01:08 JA12 or do you drink your acids dry
01:08 JA12 k
01:08 Seroster Citric, probably
01:08 injektion I'm not drinking it. I need something that will destroy metal
01:08 injektion Citric is vitamin c
01:09 Seroster Yeah
01:09 Seroster mureatic acid is a tad stronger
01:09 injektion Iron chloride?
01:09 JA12 he's trying to think of some acid that's somehow available to the consumer and could be in powder form
01:10 Seroster Formic acid
01:11 masterofmonks injektion: Vitamin C is ascorbic acid.
01:11 JA12 what metal, in where, and why?
01:11 wannabe1987 its SO COOL to watch the tb skin test bubble show up when they inject you :P
01:11 masterofmonks Also Ferric Chloride is available in powder form.
01:11 * wannabe1987 is medical nerd/geek thinger
01:11 injektion JA12: That's a reason that I am not willing to discuss
01:11 JA12 k...
01:11 injektion But it's not going to be illegally used
01:12 injektion I know bisulfate is too weak
01:12 JA12 injektion: I'm asking because different acids are better with different metals, and where because acids react with other things too, and why because some other processes could be better suitable than acid
01:12 Seroster Erm... Is it for... Marital use?
01:13 injektion Something that I can use in glycol
01:13 Seroster Gonna fuck up someones radiator?
01:13 JA12 sounds like it =)
01:14 wannabe1987 http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396330_294797430573269_244753448911001_857849_2065437810_n.jpg
01:16 injektion I know sulfuric acid is out
01:17 JA12 injektion: I also asked because it's not bad idea to find out what comes out when the acid reacts
01:17 JA12 hydrogen is quite common "byproduct"
01:18 injektion Either an acid or find some way to clog the cooling system until it overheats and blows a head gasket
01:19 JA12 didn't mythbusters test out different products for that?
01:19 injektion I'm doing it to a ford so it's going to be easy
01:22 JA12 drain the coolant out
01:22 eadthem injektion you will want something that preffers the taste of steel and iron to copper and aluminum
01:22 injektion That's too noticeable JA12
01:23 eadthem wait why are you doing this?
01:23 injektion I'm trying to prevent a safety related accident here
01:23 JA12 injektion: also much safer to get water+glycol in your eye than water+glycol+acid
01:24 JA12 or whoever is draining it eventually...
01:25 injektion The issue is that the car I drive to work is going to end up in a serious electrical fire
01:26 injektion Something started smoking today and no it wasn't related to the cabin fan
01:28 injektion Like always my dad refuses to believe its aproem
01:29 injektion A problem*
01:30 JA12 I have several acids and couple bases in here and I wear safety goggles and gloves when handling them because I know what they are and where they are. it would be a bad idea to make something dangerous that shouldn't be so, like putting a hand in a cookie jar and painfully find out someone put glass shards, needles and a picture of Seroster in there
01:30 JA12 that's all I'm saying =)
01:31 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckwuT5CnM68&feature=share
01:32 Bot-Mobile Title: Dead Kitty and Music Video Shoot - YouTube
01:32 wannabe1987 new cb
01:32 wannabe1987 i was there
01:32 Seroster I would take my chanses with a collecton of hypodermic needles instead of the picture
01:32 wannabe1987 but i'm not in it afaik
01:32 wannabe1987 thank goodness
01:32 wannabe1987 i can't watch due to my interwebz
01:32 Seroster USED hypodermic needles
01:32 Monkeh wannabe1987: Heh. It's old. :P
01:32 wannabe1987 or computer
01:32 wannabe1987 yesterdays, i see that now
01:32 wannabe1987 you'd think after dating papers a billion times i'd know todays date
01:32 wannabe1987 ...
01:35 JA12 injektion: also, as I said, hydrogen is a common byproduct. hydrogen+heat/spark+air = combustion
01:36 injektion I know that
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01:39 JA12 injektion: I've never tried to mix acid (of any kind) with glycol and I'm not a chemist so I can't figure out what would be best to try. I suspect that it's not acid that would do the job
01:41 JA12 because acids in sulfuric acid strenghts aren't that corrosive. even less so when diluted. it could take out gaskets before any good damage to the metals
01:43 injektion That's good
01:43 JA12 which could take a surprisingly long time
01:44 injektion Bbiab
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01:46 wannabe1987 who deosnt know how to make taco meat?  seriously!
01:46 wannabe1987 housematefail
01:46 Toastdude lol
01:46 JA12 I don't (without googling). please, tell me?
01:47 lwq1996 iys ground hamburgh with spices
01:47 BitViper i make it the way i make everything else ... grab random things from the cupboard and throw them in a pan
01:47 wannabe1987 omg lwq1996 is here
01:48 JA12 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco
01:48 Bot-Mobile Title: Taco - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:48 lwq1996 yes i am and im reading my book
01:48 JA12 there's a lot of different ones
01:48 BitViper read it out loud =P
01:48 wannabe1987 JA12: you brown meat in a pan, put spices on it, with water and you simmer it for 5 minutes till the spices are on the meat
01:48 wannabe1987 sadday lwq1996 :(
01:49 lwq1996 why wannabe1987
01:49 wannabe1987 b/c :rpg
01:49 KB3NZQ ping
01:49 wannabe1987 but homework comes first
01:49 lwq1996 oh yeah i wish i could join but i need my ar points
01:49 JA12 so BitViper's way is the right one =) grab random things, heat it up, and it resembles some sort of taco =)
01:49 DruidicRifleman Basicly
01:50 wannabe1987 you can't read tomorrow?  odd
01:50 wannabe1987 whatever
01:50 BitViper JA12 : i think thats how taco bell does it too, grab random things from the alley .... ....
01:50 wannabe1987 LOL
01:50 JA12 BitViper :D
01:50 DruidicRifleman LMAO that explains cory
01:50 lwq1996 i got suf to do tmorrow
01:50 DruidicRifleman 's WMD farts
01:50 BitViper rotfl
01:51 BitViper I may have to bring a batch of my chili down to donate if/when I make it to the lab
01:51 DruidicRifleman LOL Chili Cook off for science???
01:51 wannabe1987 i've brought cookies
01:51 wannabe1987 i'll bring chili
01:51 BitViper although we may have to ban the gas generator
01:51 DruidicRifleman I feel sorry for non linier editing...
01:52 BitViper should I make mild or hot ? noting that my 'mild' will leave marks on stainless steel, and my hot will stain stoneware
01:52 wannabe1987 remind me not to eat any
01:53 BitViper hehehe, its not really that bad, it depends on the batch. usually turns out a nice medium that most people can handle easily. but I can make a very very mean version. I just dont because im the only one that will eat it.
01:54 DruidicRifleman LOL XD MAN CHILI is the only chilli that should be eaten
01:54 Cprossu well that was certainly disheartening @ Seroster.
01:54 Seroster What was?
01:55 BitViper my best chile is the stuff that at first bite tastes great but seems awful mild ... and the 2nd, and 3rd bite ... but somewhere around the 4th bite you realize its too late
01:55 DruidicRifleman I an only allowed to make spicy food under dirrect supervission of a responcible adult
01:55 BitViper DruidicRifleman \o/
01:55 BitViper DruidicRifleman : with a fire extinguisher handy ?
01:55 DruidicRifleman Other wise i'd add pepperspray
01:55 JA12 with gloves
01:55 BitViper hahahahaha @ pepper spray
01:56 DruidicRifleman Eat chilly suffer pain Get high from endoraphins
01:56 BitViper i just use halopenos complete with seeds
01:56 JA12 pepperspray =))
01:56 DruidicRifleman LOL
01:56 BitViper have yet to try habeneros
01:57 DruidicRifleman I could see a bunch of us chilling in the cafe eating chilli Chris comes in the front with omni She bolts out of the room chris passes out XP
01:57 BitViper i suspect cory may regret it as much as we would if he ate any
01:57 wannabe1987 TACO
01:58 DruidicRifleman I think the lab should have taco tuesdays
01:58 BitViper oh, and i usually use venison rather than beef for my chili
01:58 wannabe1987 BitViper: i don't like spicy food
01:58 wannabe1987 so....
01:58 DruidicRifleman i am tempted to try Squrrel chili
01:58 DruidicRifleman your a woman
01:58 BitViper wannabe1987 awwwww =(
01:58 DruidicRifleman ...
01:58 DruidicRifleman i am gonna get crap for saying that...
01:59 wannabe1987 i'm learning to take heat....but it comes slowly
01:59 wannabe1987 my sisters female roommate, on a scale of 1-10, is at a 7...i'm at a 3 :P
01:59 JA12 BitViper: if someone gives you habanero vodka to taste, don't do it
01:59 BitViper JA12 : that sounds dangerous
01:59 BitViper in many ways
01:59 wannabe1987 ...
02:00 BitViper wannabe1987 : is that how spicy she/you are, or how much spice she/you can handle ? :)
02:00 JA12 BitViper: some can drink it
02:00 JA12 BitViper: but most just throw up their liver
02:01 BitViper JA12 : sounds like a great idea to marianate the meat in it before adding the meat to the chili
02:01 wannabe1987 i can handle a 4 heat level, she can handle a 7 heat level, but she's also from indonesia, so that might explain it :P
02:02 DruidicRifleman there is a place here intown
02:02 BitViper i dont even measure mine, i just make it and eat it. its not usually too bad. just enough to say it has a bite. otherwise nobody in my family but me would eat it except maybe my brother in law
02:02 DruidicRifleman Called buster rhinos
02:02 DruidicRifleman they have Habino vinigar for the fries
02:02 BitViper O_o
02:02 DruidicRifleman SOOO good
02:03 DruidicRifleman it's a canadian thing
02:03 BitViper I remember a college friend took me to a cajun bar somewhere east of downtown on fulton i think for cajun chicken .... YUM (but that was back in 94 or 5)
02:04 DruidicRifleman Blackend catfish OMNOM
02:04 DruidicRifleman New orlines survialkit
02:04 sndwrx hmm.
02:04 DruidicRifleman frying pan Bottle of hot sauce clean underware
02:04 BitViper it was after that i made him a special batch of chili ... uber hot ... i brought some to school for him, he made the mistake of microwaving it ... *snicker*
02:05 BitViper im pretty sure he never ate it all, he came back from the cafeteria glowing like rudolf's nose
02:05 sndwrx No voyuerism in the RPG channel, eh?
02:06 wannabe1987 voyuerism?
02:07 sndwrx Right, voyeurism*
02:07 sndwrx Hard to type like this.
02:07 wannabe1987 whats it mean?
02:07 DruidicRifleman watching
02:08 wannabe1987 no, i voted you out
02:08 BitViper wannabe1987 : think guys putting cameras in the girls locker room
02:08 wannabe1987 and Seroster
02:08 * Seroster cries.
02:08 sndwrx a perversion in which a person receives sexual gratification from seeing the genitalia of others or witnessing others' sexual behavior.
02:08 wannabe1987 it was the best thing ever to see mom kick Seroster
02:08 wannabe1987 :D
02:08 Seroster Please sndwrx, #nsfw
02:08 wannabe1987 and sndwrx what are you doing thats making typing so difficult?
02:08 Seroster Oh god it's itching to kick you right now, wannabe1987 =P
02:08 BitViper i dont think we want to know
02:09 sndwrx That's okay.  It forced me wipe out a couple channels.  14 or 15 or however many connected channels was getting ridiculous.
02:09 DruidicRifleman Wannabe whats your Rank at the geek group G4 correct?
02:09 wannabe1987 i realized after hitting ENTER i realized that sounded wrong
02:09 JA12 and I keep forgetting that "mom" in this case is an acronym...
02:09 wannabe1987 no?
02:09 wannabe1987 G2 or 3....
02:09 wannabe1987 i don' thave a badge
02:09 wannabe1987 altho i'll buy one when i can :D
02:09 Seroster No, Shes not g4
02:09 BitViper rank ?
02:10 Seroster G3, possibly, she was a volounteer for a while
02:10 wannabe1987 i dont' know what g4 means, but i will def not be there
02:10 sndwrx Now wait a minute, I get a warning for NSFW for defining a word...
02:10 wannabe1987 since march O.o
02:10 JA12 isint' g4 staff
02:10 wannabe1987 you used dirty words, sndwrx
02:10 wannabe1987 g5=staff
02:10 Seroster Think G5 is staff
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02:10 JA12 k
02:10 sndwrx But there's frequent fondling, swearing and such that goes on to no effect?
02:10 wannabe1987 wb injektion
02:10 injektion ry
02:10 injektion ty
02:10 Seroster G4 is like 24/7 at the lab kissing ass =)
02:10 wannabe1987 ewwww ass kissing :P
02:10 JA12 mmmm
02:10 JA12 =)
02:10 sndwrx Oh that doesn't happen here.
02:11 sndwrx Not at all.
02:11 BitViper well that means i'll lever make g4
02:11 Seroster Rimming, don't knock it.
02:11 JA12 oh.. ewww
02:11 BitViper my breath is bad enough without ass kissing
02:11 sndwrx Seroster: NSFW, please.
02:11 injektion Did someone say fondle?
02:11 Seroster Oh piss off sndwrx =P
02:11 sndwrx injektion: NSFW, please.
02:11 wannabe1987 sndwrx; you don't have an @ so you can't force shit
02:11 * sndwrx configures a few trigger responses.
02:11 * sndwrx snickers.
02:12 Seroster Talking about asskissing, huh? "force shit"
02:12 BitViper *facepalm*
02:12 sndwrx wannabe1987: Oh you mean I can't encourage people to not be hypocrits?
02:12 sndwrx +e
02:12 wannabe1987 lol
02:12 wannabe1987 yes, you can, i was sarcastic, dear
02:13 sndwrx for cryin' out loud I spelled it entirely wrong.
02:13 sndwrx At any rate.
02:13 sndwrx afk.
02:13 wannabe1987 awwww bye
02:13 wannabe1987 its ok, i have :rpg whenever it starts moving :/
02:14 Seroster #Tgg:NSFWRPG
02:14 Seroster =D
02:14 Seroster For the really fun rpg stuff, eh?
02:14 lwq1996 uh oh those hot wings seemed like a good idea when my mom made them
02:14 wannabe1987 only for you and angy
02:15 Seroster And mom
02:15 Seroster And niobe
02:15 Seroster And kate
02:15 Seroster And injection
02:15 Seroster And jk
02:15 Seroster Not to mention batsteve and that horny chick, whatshername, kelly?
02:15 lwq1996 hey guys how do you fall asleep without pills
02:15 BitViper hammer
02:15 lwq1996 XD LOL LMFAO
02:16 Seroster lwq1996, You run
02:16 Seroster Go out and just run for a few hours straight
02:16 BitViper of if that fails, listen to political speeches
02:16 wannabe1987 no bright lights for a while before hand,r ead, listen to soft classical (type, i use sigur ros) music, excercise for a bit
02:17 BitViper i like wannabe1987's style
02:17 wannabe1987 i saw them live in GR
02:17 lwq1996 seroster as my parents see my neighbor hood they would sugest taking a .09
02:18 Seroster If you are on a laptop hit fn+left arrow
02:18 Seroster Or better yet, turn the fucking thing off.
02:21 wannabe1987 BitViper: they came to calvin college when i was a student, so i saw them for a reduced rate :D
02:21 BitViper nice
02:22 wannabe1987 mhm
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02:32 wannabe1987 hi kate
02:32 Katemonster ohai
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02:41 wannabe1987 hi Peter_
02:44 DruidicRifleman whats up
02:44 wannabe1987 my headache came back
02:44 wannabe1987 stupid meds
02:44 Coderjoe grar
02:45 Coderjoe I hate when I want to watch some video I saw awhile go on youtube but can't find it
02:50 Katemonster something i did not see coming /at all:/
02:52 wannabe1987 kate, that looks like a good thing to do!  DOOOO EEEET!
02:53 Katemonster my friend molly (kawaiijess' girlfriend,) the president of the LGBT Pride/Gay-Straight Alliance at our local state university, thinks it's a fantastic idea that i teach firearms classes for our LGBT community
02:53 Katemonster i know, i'm just....... i feel really odd about it
02:54 wannabe1987 why do youfeel odd about it?
02:54 Coderjoe pink pistols!
02:54 * Experimentonomen looks @ BitViper
02:54 Katemonster being The Gun Person in a social group of progressive liberals makes me feel like the black kid at a KKK luncheon
02:54 BitViper (__|__)
02:55 BitViper dont look too close Experimentonomen =P
02:55 Experimentonomen BitViper, quit mooning :P
02:55 Experimentonomen u look like ur about to fart :P
02:55 Katemonster it's a total eclipse of bitviper's brain
02:55 BitViper *facepalm*
02:55 Experimentonomen so aim that ass somewhere else :P
02:56 BitViper Katemonster : wait, i have a brain ? someone found it ?
02:57 BitViper I used to have it backed up on disk, but I cant find anything to read the disk any more =(
02:57 Katemonster idk, i can't see it from here, there's too much moon in the way.  i was just giving you the benefit of the doubt.
02:57 Katemonster it won't happen again.
02:57 BitViper hahaha
02:57 Coderjoe .w pink pistols
02:57 wannabe1987 BitViper: your brain is at the lab
02:57 wannabe1987 good luck
02:57 Katemonster i know what pink pistols is Joe
02:57 Coderjoe ah
02:57 * wannabe1987 was just "dissed" for being white. REALLY PEOPLE?!
02:57 Coderjoe others may not have
02:58 BitViper wannabe1987 : oh good, now i really need to get down there before someone leaves it alone in the computer lab, nothing good would come of that
02:58 wannabe1987 its up in HVL
02:58 wannabe1987 theres no room in the cmputer lab for anything...i looked the other day
02:58 BitViper wannabe1987 : ah, it should be relatively safe there, not sure about thumper tho
02:58 wannabe1987 is your brain made out of metal?
02:58 BitViper only the shielding
02:59 DruidicRifleman Saying " being The Gun Person in a social group of progressive liberals makes me feel like the black kid at a KKK luncheon" allways gets me in shit
03:00 Katemonster that's because you're an idiot.
03:01 DruidicRifleman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pink_Pistols
03:01 Seroster Maybe you shouldnt hang around progressives and stay with the regressives?
03:02 Katemonster nooooooooooo thanks
03:02 Katemonster i've had quite enough of that crowd.
03:03 BitViper theyre all hypocrits and full of bs, they'll all say whatever they think ppl want to hear, like any politician
03:03 Seroster Then stay with whoever and don't talk about guns
03:05 Katemonster i try that
03:05 Katemonster but it's about the only thing i know a lot about, so it always ends up there when people try to get me to talk  :/
03:06 BitViper ok nerds and geeks, im off for the night, try not to let the party get out of control now. =)
03:06 wannabe1987 night
03:06 BitViper and dorks and dweebs too
03:07 wannabe1987 hey everyone!  time to party hardy!
03:07 wannabe1987 BitViper is leaving!
03:07 * BitViper always misses the good stuff *sigh* LOL
03:07 Katemonster don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
03:07 wannabe1987 lol
03:07 BitViper Katemonster : too late LOL
03:07 * Katemonster slams door on bitviper's ass
03:07 BitViper i knew there was a reason for that padding :)
03:07 JA12 brb
03:08 wannabe1987 no!  not ja12!
03:08 wannabe1987 :(
03:08 Katemonster ...
03:08 Katemonster they made a Jagged Alliance 12?
03:08 Coderjoe "Don't let the door hit you where the good lord split you."
03:09 wannabe1987 no, his name starts with a JA
03:09 Katemonster the american pronunciation or the everyone-else pronunciation of J?
03:10 Katemonster or English rather, I guess, not American
03:10 wannabe1987 finnish.
03:10 wannabe1987 ya-
03:10 Katemonster okay, that's what i was guessing
03:11 roadran422 Hi
03:12 wannabe1987 hi
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03:13 roadran422 Anyhting new?
03:13 wannabe1987 you came back!
03:13 roadran422 lol
03:13 Katemonster mmm, i smell dinner.
03:13 roadran422 xD
03:14 JA12 don't be so sure. I have massive lag now...
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03:14 wannabe1987 lem!
03:14 Katemonster oh shit it's the other ausie.
03:14 Katemonster i mean, oh hi!
03:15 roadran422 ...
03:15 LemPhone lol
03:15 LemPhone hi kate
03:15 LemPhone how goes it?
03:15 LemPhone lo wannabe
03:15 Katemonster if i seem
03:15 Katemonster terse
03:15 Katemonster tonight
03:15 roadran422 So...
03:15 roadran422 Hi!
03:15 roadran422 xD
03:15 Katemonster it's because i've been dealing with jessica
03:15 Katemonster ALL
03:15 Katemonster DAY
03:15 LemPhone it's because you're alive?
03:16 roadran422 xD ^
03:16 * Katemonster strangles small animals in her mind
03:16 LemPhone heh
03:16 roadran422 Katemonster: No. That's no way!
03:17 LemPhone kate, I had one of the hackersppace members wake me out of a sound sleep at 11pm last night
03:17 LemPhone this is an hour after I didn't answer him on IRC
03:17 Katemonster ....okay.... what does that have to do with me?
03:17 Katemonster i take no responsibility  :o
03:18 LemPhone heh, just illustrating we all have our annoyances
03:18 Katemonster i have a living breathing annoyance that won't go away.
03:18 Experimentonomen seems the reasin for photonicinduction's channel closure was that he made up him mind he doesent wanna do it anymore
03:18 * Katemonster forgot why she's friends with jess
03:18 LemPhone I'm also the kind of person who finds it very hard to sleep again after being woken
03:18 roadran422 xD Idk the argument. So I can't really concur/not concur
03:19 LemPhone oh, since when experiment?
03:19 Katemonster what does having a raisin have to do with it?
03:19 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: And he decides to have a good whine about how TGG is ripping off his ideas and making '£40,000 a month' doing it
03:19 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjvskVvaZ0s
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03:20 Katemonster OH HI
03:20 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Basically he took it all too seriously and doesn't have the hide to handle Youtube comments.
03:20 lwq1996 ok i am just now finding out by tehdark45 that photonicinduction is off of youtube
03:20 Monkeh|Lap Although I sort of agree with his POV that the stuff he plays with is a little dangerous to be on a public and popular youtube channel.
03:21 LemPhone yes, but most of the stuff he plays with is rather hard to get
03:21 LemPhone ffs his power supply is custom built
03:21 Monkeh|Lap LemPhone: MOTs aren't.
03:22 LemPhone he despises MOT's and rarely uses them
03:22 Monkeh|Lap LemPhone: Plus he had a video where he quite intentionally grabbed hold of a live conductor.
03:22 Monkeh|Lap (with precisely zero effect.. because he knows exactly what he's doing. A kid watching youtube does not)
03:22 LemPhone yes, holding a live conductor is safe if you know what you are doing
03:22 Experimentonomen unline photon, i'd feel honored if TGG replicated something i did on my channel
03:23 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Mmmhm.
03:23 * LemPhone nods
03:23 Monkeh|Lap As I said, he takes it all too seriously and apparently does not have thick enough skin.
03:23 JA12 no, no problems at all
03:23 JA12 notrealuser@newt:~$ ping -c 10 www.google.com
03:23 JA12 ping: unknown host www.google.com
03:23 JA12 notrealuser@newt:~$ ping -c 10 www.thegeekgroup.org
03:23 JA12 ping: unknown host www.thegeekgroup.org
03:23 LemPhone wtf ja12
03:23 Monkeh|Lap Who needs DNS anyway?
03:24 JA12 ... 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9070ms - rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 8100.666/14452.202/19504.162/3852.923 ms, pipe 10
03:25 Monkeh|Lap JA12: Mmm, nice.
03:25 Monkeh|Lap JA12: Bouncing that off the moon are we?
03:25 LemPhone your connection appears to be swedish chefed
03:25 LemPhone a.k.a. borked
03:26 JA12 Monkeh|Lap: seems so but my ISP can't handle connections few km away, yet to the moon and back
03:27 LemPhone dsl or cable ja12?
03:27 Monkeh|Lap Wait, hang on, how did it only take 9070ms but one of the packets took 19504ms by itself?
03:27 JA12 LemPhone: dsl
03:27 Monkeh|Lap LemPhone: Doesn't really matter which.
03:27 LemPhone any phones on the dsl line?
03:27 Coderjoe perhaps if you hadn't turned your computer into a newt
03:27 JA12 google dns (8.8.4.4)
03:28 LemPhone monkeh, it's a valid troubleshooting question as it tells me what to troubleshoot!
03:28 Monkeh|Lap LemPhone: If the DSL line was being dropped it should drop the packets.
03:28 Coderjoe buffer bloat
03:28 LemPhone not always monkeh
03:29 LemPhone it can resync to a much lower speed, all the way down to 32kbit
03:29 Experimentonomen anyways if hes anything like me, its gonna be a few weeks and then hes back and making vids again
03:29 Monkeh|Lap LemPhone: Yes, but that wouldn't affect latency and while the modem is syncing the connection should drop causing the packets to be lost.
03:30 JA12 there might be some problems with connections outside country and if I'm getting dns info from there I might have to change back to local ones
03:30 Monkeh|Lap Although there are some which can resync on the fly, but afaik that's almost never even enabled
03:30 Coderjoe yeah, it was supposed ot be an homage
03:30 injektion now is the time I need to make a script to take some keywords and separate them with a |
03:30 Monkeh|Lap JA12: Google DNS almost certainly has a server within your country.
03:30 JA12 in fact, I try just that
03:30 Monkeh|Lap JA12: Try a traceroute to 8.8.4.4
03:31 JA12 Monkeh|Lap: I know. but if its connections are borked too
03:31 Monkeh|Lap JA12: Possible.
03:31 Monkeh|Lap Try it
03:32 JA12 already am
03:32 JA12 12 seconds passed...
03:32 Monkeh|Lap JA12: Try 4.2.2.2
03:32 LemPhone later all
03:34 JA12 Monkeh|Lap: 8.8.4.4 is still going
03:35 Monkeh|Lap JA12: Pooched.
03:35 JA12 as are 4.2.2.2 and 8.8.8.8
03:35 Monkeh|Lap JA12: Gimme your IP
03:35 roadran422 lol
03:35 Coderjoe depending on how smart or dumb your router is, you might not be able to traceroute
03:35 roadran422 I might as well give you my ip and mac address.
03:35 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Your MAC address is totally useless to me.
03:36 Bat-Mobile joined #thegeekgroup
03:36 roadran422 Ok... Well. I am not giving you my ip...
03:36 Coderjoe (if the router doesn't have the smarts to figure out where to send the ICMP timeout packets, you can't traceroute from behind it)
03:36 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: And I'm not asking for yours.
03:36 Bat-Mobile .dice
03:36 Bat-Mobile hm
03:36 Bat-Mobile did the bot die?  If so, when?
03:36 roadran422 xD
03:36 JA12 no it did gave me lot of hops
03:36 roadran422 Bat-Mobile: FIX THE BOT :(
03:36 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: I don't even have to: I already have it.
03:36 roadran422 ....
03:36 roadran422 How.
03:36 roadran422 Wow.
03:36 Bat-Mobile roadran422: FINE I WILL
03:36 JA12 too many actually
03:36 JA12 all inside country
03:37 BotSteve joined #thegeekgroup
03:37 JA12 except 4.2.2.2 went outside
03:37 Bat-Mobile there.
03:37 Bat-Mobile happy?
03:37 Bat-Mobile (:
03:37 JA12 it's in frankfurt now =)
03:37 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Easy. I know what I'm doing. ;)
03:37 Monkeh|Lap Bat-Mobile: Is this the real deal?
03:37 Bat-Mobile Monkeh|Lap: as real as it gets
03:37 Monkeh|Lap Bat-Mobile: Hurrah! Proper, manly heatsink?
03:37 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream: http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup |   Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | ANNOUNCING MEMBER BLOGS http://is.gd/tggblogs
03:37 roadran422 :P
03:38 Seroster HA
03:38 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: It's 97.97.162.105 if you're wondering.
03:38 Bat-Mobile same heatsink, new fan.  I couldn't get a new sink on short notice but they had 70mm fans
03:38 Monkeh|Lap Bat-Mobile: Cool. Don't often find them.
03:38 Seroster The object I found in the garbage (two of them) I found on sale on an auction site for 120 bucks =)
03:38 Bat-Mobile I blew all the crap out of the old sink.  Hopefully it works for another two or three years.
03:38 Monkeh|Lap Guess they've experienced the rapid death of AMD fans before.
03:38 Seroster http://www.tradera.com/hager-ec350-kwh-matare-63a-3-fas-energimatare-helt-ny-auktion_301864_145894263
03:38 wannabe1987 Bat-Mobile!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
03:38 Seroster BAAAAT
03:38 BotSteve Title: hager EC350 KWH Mätare 63A 3 fas energimätare helt ny på Tradera.
03:38 roadran422 Monkeh. Stop stalking
03:38 Bat-Mobile After that as long as it doesn't set my apartment on fire when it goes I'll call it good.
03:38 Toastdude Bats!
03:39 wannabe1987 bats is back in black :D
03:39 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Stalking hell, it's right here for everyone to see.
03:39 Bat-Mobile (:
03:39 wannabe1987 and BotSteve :D
03:39 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: He hit the sack!
03:39 wannabe1987 who did?
03:39 wannabe1987 i wasn't reading :/
03:39 wannabe1987 i was in :rpg
03:39 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: You need more AC/DC in your life. :P
03:39 Bat-Mobile back in a sec
03:39 Bat-Mobile left #thegeekgroup
03:40 roadran422 ...
03:40 roadran422 Let me do a trace on my own ip...
03:40 Monkeh|Lap May not work very well.
03:40 Coderjoe dirty deeds...
03:40 BatSteve joined #thegeekgroup
03:41 * wannabe1987 has voice over there
03:41 wannabe1987 BatSteve! :D
03:41 roadran422 BatSteve: Thankyou!
03:41 Seroster OOOOOOOOOOOOOO
03:42 Seroster http://medium.tradera.com/804/135978804_2.jpg
03:42 Seroster YESYESYESYES! MINE
03:42 Seroster Got the fan sorted, BatSteve?
03:42 Seroster http://medium.tradera.com/804/135978804_1.jpg
03:42 BatSteve I hope so.
03:42 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: What on earth is that?
03:42 BatSteve Eventually I'm going to have to change out all these fans
03:42 BatSteve It's still not whisper-quiet like it should be.
03:42 roadran422 ....
03:42 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: I eat 120mm fans.
03:42 Seroster It got two sides monkeh
03:42 BatSteve But at least the keys are clicking more than the power supply is.
03:42 lwq1996 fuck photonic induction
03:42 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: I didn't see the other side now did I
03:42 BatSteve Which is better than it was before.
03:42 Monkeh|Lap You posted the wrong one first
03:43 Seroster =)
03:43 Seroster Yeah sorry about that
03:43 Monkeh|Lap Having seen it
03:43 Monkeh|Lap I can say: Not if I get there first!
03:43 Seroster Thats a very nice piece of thing.
03:43 Seroster SparkyProjects, can I hook an ammeter for one phase to three phases?
03:43 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Ammeter FTW.
03:44 Seroster Or will that require a speciality shunt thing?
03:44 JA12 really...
03:44 JA12 I connected to my router and renewed the connection
03:44 SparkyProjects Nope
03:44 SparkyProjects Well you can. but you'll only get an average of the current
03:44 JA12 works
03:45 Seroster What if I tie it between the neutral lead and the ground return point?
03:45 Seroster Few things in that house actually use three phases, but the entire home is on three phases.
03:45 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Go find some proper CTs instead. ;)
03:45 Seroster ... Pft
03:45 Seroster I just like it being analouge
03:46 Monkeh|Lap True, those things are cool.
03:46 Seroster Btw, why on earth would you want a one phase FIFTY AMP ammeter?
03:46 SparkyProjects If you clip just to the neutral, anything like a motor (balanced load) will not show on the meter, anything else again will be an average
03:46 Seroster If you got something drawing 50a you use three phases 99% of the time
03:46 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Simple: Distribituon setups.
03:46 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: One of those per flat. ;)
03:47 Seroster Err.
03:47 wannabe1987 my foot itches.  i'm going to blame the dog
03:47 Seroster Here in sweden most cooktops/ovens from before 1996 are three phase.
03:47 Seroster Even my one room apartment got three phases
03:47 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Many (most?) places only use a single phase.
03:48 JA12 Seroster: have you looked at the clock recently? I just did and yes, it's morning again...
03:48 Seroster This is sold in sweden and was used in sweden.
03:48 Seroster Yeah, it is. Where are you from ja12?
03:48 JA12 finland
03:48 Seroster Ohfuck *hides the booze*
03:48 roadran422 Oh that's cool! Are you in finalnd JA12
03:48 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: So? You can still use a single phase to distribute power to a large number of devices.
03:48 SparkyProjects Seroster, have you got 3 cores, you can make your own CT's
03:48 Seroster We just crossed into the realm of overkill.
03:48 JA12 Seroster: don't worry. I don't drink. much
03:49 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: There are even good technical and safety reasons not to have multiple phases present in certain locations.
03:49 Seroster I scan this auction site every other day or so, searching for *ampere* *amp* *volt* *fuse* *breaker* *phase*
03:49 BatSteve There is no kill like overkill.
03:50 roadran422 My "cousin" in finland is a the person that helps in airplanes (I forgot)
03:50 Seroster He's the landing gear?
03:50 JA12 :D
03:50 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Stewardess.
03:50 roadran422 No. A flight attendant! xD
03:50 SparkyProjects The stewardess :P
03:50 roadran422 II remember now ll
03:50 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Doubly a stewardess if male. :)
03:51 BatSteve Ah, flight attendants.  The most misunderstood job in the world, other than President of the United States.
03:51 Seroster OOoooo
03:51 roadran422 xD
03:51 roadran422 .define steward
03:51 BotSteve steward — noun: 1. A person who manages the property or affairs for another entity, 2. A ship's officer who is in charge of making dining arrangements and provisions — verb: 1. To act as the steward or caretaker of (something)
03:51 roadran422 Ok...?
03:51 BatSteve .define flight attendant
03:51 BotSteve flight attendant — noun: 1. A member of the crew (staff) of an airplane who is responsible for the comfort and safety of its passengers
03:51 Monkeh|Lap roadran422: Second entry.
03:52 wannabe1987 my friend is a stewardess on airplanes out of GR :D
03:52 roadran422 Ok.. lo
03:52 roadran422 lol
03:52 BatSteve False.  Bad BotSteve.  Comfort is a secondary goal.
03:52 Seroster 19meter cable, three phases, rubber, frost and oil proof, also gasoline proof, meggerd to 2.5KV
03:52 Seroster Price? 25cents
03:52 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: And what size is it?
03:53 JA12 maybe a male stewardess is one who has his feminine side flourishing? =)
03:53 Seroster 32amp 400volts
03:53 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: .. That's not a cable area in square millimetres.
03:53 Monkeh|Lap But sounds like 4.
03:53 Monkeh|Lap Maybe 6.
03:53 Seroster The size is not mentioned
03:54 Seroster Neither is the material
03:54 Seroster (of the conductors=
03:54 Monkeh|Lap Probably copper, alu is crap as a flexible cable
03:54 Seroster But if it is a 32amp its a few sqmm, at least 4, probably more
03:54 Coderjoe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjL156MGrNA
03:54 BotSteve Title: Pizza in Larry's room - YouTube
03:54 Seroster Copper sucks as flex cable too, eh?
03:54 Monkeh|Lap And you wouldn't use rubber for fixed wiring generally.
03:54 Seroster It work hardens?
03:54 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: True, but fine stranded is pretty durable.
03:55 JA12 roadran422: no really. the world is small it seems
03:55 roadran422 Hahahahaha
03:55 Coderjoe (btw, that is the guy that did the voice of yakko warner and pinky, among others)
03:55 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Does it have an earth and a neutral?
03:55 Seroster Yeah
03:55 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: That's gonna be one faaaat cable.
03:56 Seroster O, now I see.
03:56 Seroster Längd 19 meter, ledare 5x6mm2 . IP44
03:56 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: There you go, 6mm. FAT cable.
03:56 SparkyProjects 32 amp on 240 volts will be 4mm squared
03:56 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: 4mm is gigantic in rubber, let alone 6.
03:56 SparkyProjects as long as it's not a huge length
03:57 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Depends, there are serious range and temperature limits on that rating
03:57 dr_jkl .
03:57 Seroster Its duraflex and weighs in at 13kg
03:57 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Not to mention, at least in T&E, the size of the CPC..
03:58 * Monkeh|Lap hates 4mm T&E
04:00 SparkyProjects Sorry, just got the regs book out, 6mm is 30 amps clipped to a surface, so really you want 10mm
04:01 SparkyProjects Monkeh|Lap: you should try working with 150mm 4 core armoured :P
04:01 SparkyProjects That's fun
04:01 Seroster Lol
04:02 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Heh. I don't hate it for being big, I hate it for having a pathetic CPC. :)
04:02 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I'm sure it's rated higher than that clipped direct, though.
04:02 * Monkeh|Lap ponders the location of his OSG
04:02 Seroster Screw it
04:02 Seroster Let
04:02 Seroster Let's go to bed, JA12 and SparkyProjects.
04:02 Seroster NOT TOGETHER
04:02 SparkyProjects Had to help run that in a cable duct and terminate it into switchgear.
04:02 SparkyProjects Took 6 of us in and around the duct to bend it
04:03 Seroster But seriously, it's after 4, or 6, am, depending on how you count
04:03 BatSteve .t seroster
04:03 BotSteve BatSteve: Sorry, I don't know about the 'seroster' timezone.
04:03 BatSteve Yet.
04:03 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Hehe, yeah, that stuff's a pain in the butt..
04:03 BatSteve But you will soon.
04:03 SparkyProjects 4am, it's early, must be later for you :P
04:03 Seroster I am between sparky and ja12, they are at 4 and 6. How much could the clock be here?
04:03 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I get bored pretty fast dealing with 35mm2, and that's as big as I ever plan to go (domestic anyway!)
04:03 JA12 SparkyProjects: it's gmt for you, gmt+1 for Seroster and gmt+2 for me
04:04 Monkeh|Lap JA12: UTC, man, GMT doesn't exist any more. :P
04:04 wannabe1987 whoever thought it ws a good idea to use band aids on an arm...pulling them off HURTS
04:04 * Seroster stabs monkeh
04:04 Seroster ITS GMT
04:04 SparkyProjects Yeah, i thought that would be the time, but wasn't sure
04:05 JA12 Monkeh|Lap: tell that to those who live in greenwich :P
04:05 SparkyProjects I still refer to it as GMT :P
04:05 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Meh, old people. :P
04:06 SparkyProjects Yep
04:08 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Which table did 30A for 6mm2 come from?
04:08 SparkyProjects IEE regs, though it's a bit old, and probably out of date
04:09 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, I need to get a copy of 17th, only got the OSG
04:09 SparkyProjects I forgot to pick up my 16th edition when i left work
04:10 Seroster A bit old?
04:10 Seroster I didnt know that the conductivity of a said metal changed as the world progressed
04:10 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: 4D5A, 6mm2 clipped direct 47A
04:11 Seroster A said gauge of a said wire will handle a said amperage, yesterday today and tomorrow
04:11 Seroster COME ON
04:11 Seroster Anyway
04:11 Monkeh|Lap 4mm 37A
04:11 Seroster Cya folks.
04:11 Seroster JA12, Go to bed.
04:11 Seroster SparkyProjects, Go to bed.
04:11 Monkeh|Lap Of course both those ratings go right out the window if there's insulation around
04:11 Seroster dr_jkl, Go to bed, and bring a camera =D
04:11 SparkyProjects Ah, that's more like i thought it was Monkeh
04:11 Monkeh|Lap And 4mm2 gets useless over distance thanks to the silly CPC
04:11 SparkyProjects Seroster, go to bed yourself.
04:11 Monkeh|Lap (With T&E)
04:12 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Most sparkies I know refuse to carry or use 4mm thanks to the CPC.
04:12 SparkyProjects Monkeh| have you seen the price of the regs ?
04:12 SparkyProjects £80 unless you're a member
04:12 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Cheaper online, about 60 iirc.
04:12 roadran422zZz night all!
04:12 JA12 night roadran422zZz
04:13 Monkeh|Lap More than I can afford, the OSG and some common sense are sufficient for me
04:13 injektion My squid guard keyword blacklist is now complete ^_^
04:13 SparkyProjects Still a lot for a book that will go out of date in a year or 2
04:13 Monkeh|Lap Strict compliance with the word of the regs is just the blind leading the blind.
04:13 Monkeh|Lap They're not law, so..
04:14 SparkyProjects Funny though, the actual regs is 3 or 4 pages, the rest of the book tells you how to comply with the regs.
04:14 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: And the law consists of one paragraph. :)
04:14 SparkyProjects yep
04:14 Katemonster Experimentonomen
04:14 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: The OSG has the important tables in, all I really need.
04:15 JA12 Monkeh|Lap: I don't know what suddenly happened to my connection but I've suspected that my ISP servers just somehow drop the connection and this time it seemed like my packets were going in a retarted lane. I had my connection out for 5 days (got it back on monday)
04:15 SparkyProjects I had a OSG for the 16th, very useful
04:15 Monkeh|Lap JA12: You may have been stuck with a fallback route.
04:16 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Yep, all the really important stuff is there.
04:16 wannabe1987 why the hell am i so tired!  its not even 12!
04:16 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: They're only £20. Well worth it for something the size of a notebook you can carry around.
04:16 SparkyProjects I may have to get a copy at that price.
04:17 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: http://www.amazon.co.uk/-Site-Guide-Regulations-incorporating-Amendment/dp/1849192871/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325909752&sr=1-1
04:17 BotSteve Title: On-Site Guide: (BS 7671:2008 Wiring Regulations, incorporating Amendment No 1:2011) (Iet Wiring Regulations): Amazon.co.uk: Iet: 9781849192873: Books
04:18 Monkeh|Lap I've got the old red one but there's no real changes
04:18 SparkyProjects http://electrical.theiet.org/books/regulations/on-site-17th-ed-amd1.cfm  <-- save £0.55
04:18 BotSteve Title: On-Site Guide BS 7671:2008 (2011) - IET Electrical
04:18 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: But do they deliver free?
04:19 SparkyProjects yep
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04:19 SparkyProjects add to basket and the price is there
04:19 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Ah, but that's the member price.
04:19 SparkyProjects member price is £15.60
04:20 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Non-members: £24. Amazon: £20.55.
04:20 SparkyProjects oops, misread :P
04:20 Monkeh|Lap It's okay, you're getting old, your eyes are suffering.. :P
04:20 wannabe1987 if i become a "card carrying geek" does the card ever expire?
04:20 wannabe1987 hi tesla4d
04:21 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I think it's 3 or 5 years, but I'm not sure.
04:21 wannabe1987 so not bad.  ok good
04:22 SparkyProjects Go mine last year, expires in 2015, so 5 years
04:22 SparkyProjects sorry, got it in 2010
04:23 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Always a pain for a few weeks that, eh? :D
04:23 SparkyProjects Yep :D
04:23 Hackbat archeology in the future is going to be awesome
04:23 SparkyProjects I've been known to write last years date in April :P
04:23 Hackbat digging up old mac books and thinking we had apples based tech gods
04:23 Katemonster when we uncover the anchient civilizations of the 1980s?
04:23 Katemonster *ancient
04:24 Hackbat don't feel bad
04:24 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I've done that more than once.
04:24 Hackbat I had to google archeology
04:24 Monkeh|Lap Katemonster: And rock makes a sudden comeback?
04:24 Katemonster YES.
04:24 Hackbat Rock will never die >:C
04:25 Hackbat until every creature int he universe is dead
04:25 Hackbat Also
04:25 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I still find it hilarious and sad how so many people, especially professionals, get Part P so wrong.
04:25 Hackbat I have tunred of the ads on my kindle 4, and setup custom screensavers
04:26 wannabe1987 i wrote todays date as being 1-12-11 today .... i was confused, clearly
04:26 SparkyProjects Me too
04:26 Hackbat what?...
04:26 Hackbat it;s 1/6/12 o.o
04:26 Hackbat how...
04:26 Hackbat that's 6 days off
04:27 wannabe1987 i put the year in the place of the day :P
04:27 Monkeh|Lap Hackbat: No, it's 7/1/12.
04:27 Hackbat bot in my timezome
04:27 wannabe1987 i was signing and dating LOTS of things, as i was signing off on papers for orientation
04:27 Hackbat *not
04:27 Monkeh|Lap DAY FIRST, DAMNIT. :P
04:27 wannabe1987 no
04:27 Hackbat NOT IN AMERICA
04:27 SparkyProjects What annoys me is that many industrial jobs INSIST on having 17th (so they comply with part P), and unless it's changed recently, doesn't that only apply to domestic ?
04:27 wannabe1987 whats a g3 elite?
04:27 wannabe1987 vs a g2?
04:28 wannabe1987 I"M SO CONFUSED
04:28 wannabe1987 http://thegeekgroup.org/2011/03/30/member-cards/
04:28 BotSteve Title: Member Cards! | The Geek Group
04:28 SparkyProjects I remember  a diagram that showed a flat above a shop, the flat had to be part P, the shop didn't
04:29 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: No, the regs and part P apply to everything.
04:29 SparkyProjects wannabe1987: A D£ is awarded by staff to special members (i'm one) for their contribution
04:29 SparkyProjects G2 is a natural progression based on posts
04:30 wannabe1987 why does it go based on the forums?  i dislike how they're set up so i don't go there
04:30 SparkyProjects *G3
04:30 wannabe1987 i volunteer instead....
04:30 Monkeh|Lap Have to admit I'd prefer phpBB for the forums, but there's worse than what we've got now..
04:30 SparkyProjects When you applu for the card, Moose will apply the right rank
04:31 wannabe1987 the other forum i'm on is phpBB and i don't mind it....
04:31 wannabe1987 i know, i'm just trying to figure out the differences
04:31 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: There are certain things outside the scope of the regs which have their own rules (See: DNOs), though.
04:31 SparkyProjects Unfortunately they want the forum compatible with blogs and other stuff
04:31 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Those generally have a lot less waffling on and legalese because the people reading them are typically actually engineers who know what they're doing.
04:32 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: It's possible. It's just a major time investment to keep a significantly modified version going.
04:32 JA12 does tgg have affiliate program with newegg/best buy/amazon usa/uk?
04:32 BatSteve I wish
04:32 Hackbat noooope
04:32 Monkeh|Lap I know several large projects which forked phpBB internally to maintain it for their purposes
04:32 BatSteve wannabe1987: not paying attention to the various ranks, and just contributing what you can, is really the best thing to do, I think.
04:33 SparkyProjects There should be regs for control cabinets, i've seen many that are so hard to service, it's totally ridiculous
04:33 SparkyProjects And i wonder at their safety sometimes
04:33 BatSteve I think that people worry a whole lot about rank, and not about what they've actually done.
04:33 BatSteve Reputation is far more important than rank.
04:33 wannabe1987 i'm just trying to figure out what the differences are...idc what i am....
04:33 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Ranks and even membership presently mean crap all within the lab as far as I can tell, so long as you're willing to sign the piece of paper saying they're not responsible if you die in a horrible manner.
04:33 lwq1996 wow chris's status is getting HUGE comotion
04:34 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Tell me about it. I've worked on a machine with a reset button buried inside the cabinet. Being three-phase and totally undocumented and unmarked I was not eager to have to go in there.
04:34 wannabe1987 i cna't see his status :/
04:34 wannabe1987 unless someone shares it i think
04:35 wannabe1987 i've already signed that paper...
04:35 wannabe1987 back in like march.  or april
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04:35 JA12 there's this great small internet broadcasting thing called jupiterbroadcasting that you could give your support while shopping in newegg/best buy/amazon usa/uk, if you don't mind :)
04:35 wannabe1987 hi lem
04:36 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I'm pretty sure there are actually requirements for them but I'll have to check some time.
04:36 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Some things just fall between the cracks unfortunately, and cheapskate companies will exploit that every opportunity they get.
04:36 SparkyProjects Yeah, there's probably some guidance, but interpretation is probably very open
04:37 SparkyProjects Especially if the system comes from another country
04:37 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Well, there's things like BS1363, which has very specific rules about plugs.. except they ONLY account for ordinary plugs. Everything else is just totally unregulated.
04:38 JA12 it just tags that you're bying something because an affiliate and amazon gives small amount of the purchase to the affiliate. the price doesn't change if it's not a coupon code which gives a discount, afaik
04:38 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Those ridiculous 'safety plugs', wallwarts, most types of physical adapter.. all unregulated, many of them fairly dangerous.
04:38 SparkyProjects Even had some equipment that had green as neutral, red as earth, and grey as live :P
04:38 SparkyProjects It was a prewired plug, but we changed plugs routinely so users couldn't change the fuses
04:39 Monkeh|Lap Yep, I've seen some totally arbitrary colour coding done
04:39 SparkyProjects wallwarts have no fuses, so a short could potentially draw 32 amps
04:39 Monkeh|Lap Oh, balls, I think the UPS is going to earn its keep soon.
04:39 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Some of them do. Some don't.
04:40 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Any which are just plain transformers almost certainly won't. SMPSUs usually do.
04:40 SparkyProjects Never seen a wallwart yet with a fuse (well not one you can get to without destroying the case)
04:40 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Yeah, the SMPSUs have internal fuses usually, the transformers don't from what I've seen.
04:40 SparkyProjects yeah, i'm talking about transformers, smps's will usually burn out
04:41 Monkeh|Lap Same goes for any bricks with short cables.
04:41 Monkeh|Lap Those transformers should not be allowed anyway
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04:41 Monkeh|Lap I've only seen a handful of really, really tiny ones I'm happy to have plugged in to a vertical socket.
04:41 SparkyProjects I always plug into a powerstrip, at least there's a 13 amp covering it
04:42 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: I'm actually eliminating them entirely for most of my kit..
04:42 Monkeh|Lap I've got a +5VDC and +12VDC PSU which covers almost all of them now.
04:42 Monkeh|Lap I can do 7V off that, and 9V isn't hard to add
04:43 SparkyProjects Would be nice to have a low voltage supply (12 volts maybe) running round the house for things like charging, or a central charging station with the correct fuses etc
04:43 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: 48V wouldn't be overly hard to do.
04:44 Monkeh|Lap And a DC to DC adapter is pathetically simple and cheap for smaller stuff to run off that.
04:44 SparkyProjects Make it intrinsically safe too, able to be used in wet areas
04:44 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Make it +24V and -24V to earth.
04:45 SparkyProjects yep
04:45 Monkeh|Lap Easy enough to arrange that
04:45 Monkeh|Lap I'm not scared of 24V unless I drop a spanner across it
04:45 SparkyProjects I'm not scared of 240 (see my latest vid) :P
04:45 Monkeh|Lap heh
04:45 SparkyProjects But others are
04:45 Monkeh|Lap Neither am I, actually
04:46 Monkeh|Lap I've had a good belt and some brushes with it, but it's not overly dangerous if you pay a little attention
04:46 Monkeh|Lap I'm wary of 3-phase though
04:47 SparkyProjects I have to laugh at those that say they are ok with 240, but wouldn't go near 415 :P
04:47 SparkyProjects Most shocks you get from that are to earth
04:47 Monkeh|Lap Really does not pay to mess around with over 400V.
04:47 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: True, but the prospect of getting between the phases is not nice.
04:47 Monkeh|Lap I'll work with it, I'm just doubly careful because it's doubly dangerous
04:47 SparkyProjects So be more careful :P
04:47 Monkeh|Lap I am. ;)
04:47 Monkeh|Lap I've had plenty enough from one real experience with 240
04:48 Monkeh|Lap Slipped up and ended up with one hand on neutral and the other on line.
04:48 Monkeh|Lap No fun. No fun at all.
04:50 SparkyProjects Once had to change a 3 phase isolator on a bus for a single phase, did it live, and even put sleeves over the ends with my hands.
04:50 SparkyProjects My workmate did a similar thing, but used pliers to fit the sleeve, he slipped.
04:50 SparkyProjects Problem was that the fuse backing the busbar was 400Amps, Big bang, and put 2 buildings offline :P
04:50 Monkeh|Lap hehe
04:50 Monkeh|Lap Love those bangs.
04:51 Monkeh|Lap Makes me cringe when people start playing around near DNO cables in their houses without knowing what they're dealing with though.
04:51 Monkeh|Lap You do NOT want to short those things out.
04:51 SparkyProjects The flash affected the busbar, so restoration of power meant it went bang again, so we quickly had to improvise a busbar with wires until we got another
04:52 Monkeh|Lap On a totally unrelated note
04:52 Monkeh|Lap This is why I don't like cheap things: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-bdkxjhpdvGI/TwfPOoYS7DI/AAAAAAAAAXA/RXqY8FdvpR0/s640/IMG_20120106_184928.jpg
04:53 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Also, pliers incident reminds me of this: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i62/RFLighting/IMGP2825.jpg
04:53 SparkyProjects Loving the reinforced tracks with solder :D
04:54 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Loving the cold joints, excessive solder, and solder dripped randomly across the board, myself. :)
04:55 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: The hell's with those three big ones at the bottom? I resoldered those in a couple of seconds with a third of the material..
04:55 SparkyProjects I mean, if you are going to have part of the circuit drawing a lot of current, put the connector close to those components, and make the track wider :P
04:55 SparkyProjects Bad design
04:55 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Cheap design and cheap 10 year old slave boys.
04:59 wannabe1987 how many times does a friend get to stand you up before you stop trying?
04:59 SparkyProjects Well i think i'll go to bed before the milkman does his rounds :P
04:59 SparkyProjects Goodnight :)
04:59 Monkeh|Lap Not many?
04:59 wannabe1987 night sparky
04:59 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects: Night
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04:59 wannabe1987 he "double booked himself" (this is why people need calandars)
05:00 wannabe1987 and will buy me dinner to make up for it....(he does have a better paying job, but i have two jobs)
05:00 wannabe1987 he'll never turn into a boyfriend or anythin more than a friend, but still
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05:10 wannabe1987 astro73|alice you here?
05:11 astro73|alice yes, in fact
05:11 astro73|alice lucas ruined my childhood
05:11 astro73|alice i thought new hope was better than that...
05:14 wannabe1987 check your PMs if you're not responding there already....:/
05:18 dr_jkl lol
05:18 dr_jkl seroster wans me to go to bed with a camera?
05:19 wannabe1987 yeah.  idk why, prolly something dirty :/
05:20 JA12 dr_jkl: just link some random pic with trollface on it tomorrow =)
05:21 egrsteve morning all
05:21 wannabe1987 hi steve
05:21 JA12 morning
05:21 wannabe1987 do you know the differences between G2, G3 elite and g4?
05:21 egrsteve yes
05:22 egrsteve G2 is an active posting member on the forums (g1 to g2 in about 5 posts)
05:23 egrsteve G3 is an Elite geek, to achive G3 you need to be voted by I think 3 board members
05:23 dr_jkl naah if he's really curious ibmight indulge him
05:23 egrsteve G4 is staff
05:23 * dr_jkl is g4
05:23 JA12 ha!
05:23 egrsteve I am either 3 or 4, not sure
05:23 wannabe1987 what if one is not active on forums, but is active IRL?
05:24 egrsteve the rank system is based in the forums or at least historicly has been
05:24 egrsteve so IDK
05:24 wannabe1987 yeah, i'm not smart enough for the forums.....
05:24 egrsteve post a few times in the forums and you will be G2
05:25 wannabe1987 i have
05:25 egrsteve then you are probably G2
05:25 wannabe1987 i'm trying to find where the list of my posts are
05:25 egrsteve oh I forgot G5 boardmembers
05:26 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Pretty sure you count as staff at this point. ;)
05:26 wannabe1987 yeah, i got that from the video
05:26 JA12 so I was right that g4 is staff
05:26 egrsteve I think so too
05:26 egrsteve although G3 is harder to achive then G4
05:26 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Hope that wasn't a good SDS bit you chopped up btw :P
05:26 egrsteve it was
05:26 wannabe1987 social dance studio?
05:26 egrsteve well an ok SDS
05:27 egrsteve it was worn but had a fair amount of life left
05:27 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: They're all okay, but there's $2 ones and $15 ones. ;)
05:27 egrsteve it was a bosh branded one
05:27 dr_jkl im a little surprised th
05:27 Monkeh|Lap And not a blue one, so a half decent one
05:28 dr_jkl idk that seroster has ever seen a pic of me
05:28 egrsteve exactly
05:28 wannabe1987 you posted one yesterday, jkl
05:28 dr_jkl lolbosch
05:28 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Won't last as long in that Dewalt as in an SDS though
05:28 egrsteve i know, the dewalt doesn't have near the hammer
05:29 Monkeh|Lap May have to try and get you guys a cordless SDS when I get over there
05:29 Monkeh|Lap And a decent pocket screwdriver
05:29 egrsteve I had a few large hilti SDS+ that were broken donated
05:29 egrsteve I wonder what it would take to fix them
05:29 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Tips gone?
05:30 egrsteve no, the driver not bits
05:30 Monkeh|Lap Oh, you've got actual Hilti tools?
05:30 egrsteve yes
05:30 egrsteve the cords are cut
05:30 egrsteve thats an easy fix
05:30 Monkeh|Lap I.. can probably make a working one if you've got several the same
05:30 dr_jkl any other ops around?
05:30 Monkeh|Lap They SDS+ or SDS Max?
05:30 egrsteve it's the innerds IDK
05:31 egrsteve we have a couple, and probably both
05:31 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Typically they don't break mechanically inside.
05:31 egrsteve one is a big D handle unit
05:31 Monkeh|Lap If they do, it's so impressively violent the case doesn't survive
05:31 egrsteve I know it has been leaking oil
05:31 Monkeh|Lap Unless it's just stripped teeth, and you guys have CNC mills. We can handle that.
05:32 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: You'd know for certain if you had an SDS Max. The shanks go back about three inches into the drill.
05:32 Monkeh|Lap The chuck is the size of a coke can
05:32 egrsteve one of them might be a max
05:33 lwq1996 bbl
05:33 wannabe1987 awww
05:33 wannabe1987 ok
05:33 egrsteve Monkeh|Lap: you planning a visit some time?
05:33 Monkeh|Lap If you don't have one of these around the lab, you need one: http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-SPS10-2-4-Volt-Pocket-Screwdriver/dp/B001K7IZXQ/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1325914384&amp;sr=8-4
05:33 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Bosch SPS10-2 4-Volt Max Pocket Screwdriver: Home Improvement
05:33 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Really, really hoping to try and get over there by Feb.
05:34 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Hopefully before Stomper's running, I want to see that.
05:34 egrsteve cool
05:34 Monkeh|Lap Need to arrange money and somewhere to stay
05:34 Monkeh|Lap In that order
05:34 egrsteve hopefully stomper will be done with the next kidwell visit
05:35 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Yep, and I want to be there for it
05:35 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: iirc Chris said it's likely to be two, three weeks from now?
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05:36 egrsteve hopefully
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05:37 dr_jkl there.
05:37 wannabe1987 i would like to see you too!  you need to tell me, monkeh, so there will be cookies or something nommy
05:38 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I'll let you know if and when :)
05:38 wannabe1987 zomg computer usage fail
05:39 Cprossu that'd be awesome Monkeh|Lap
05:39 Cprossu any note on the date?
05:40 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Really unsure, depends on flight and transit/accomodation.
05:40 Cprossu is it true with international as well as domestic flights, eg the earlier you book the cheaper it is?
05:40 Cprossu or are there just magical cheaper dates?
05:41 Monkeh|Lap Going to see about getting money for it this weekend, if it's possible to get the money I'll ask seriously about accomodation.
05:41 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yeah, if you book early it's a bit cheaper. A few weeks is normally early enough afaik.
05:41 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: The biggest thing is going to be the flight times and ensuring I can fit in the damn aircraft without becoming crippled.
05:42 Monkeh|Lap Half the flights require an overnight stay in Chicago..
05:42 Monkeh|Lap (those flights are magically significantly cheaper)
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05:47 wannabe1987 Monkeh|Lap: thats what packethumper is for :P
05:47 wannabe1987 or you can have someone drive to chitown and get you...
05:47 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I'd rather not ask anyone to drive that far to pick me up
05:47 wannabe1987 probably cheaper than the $200 for the flight....
05:48 wannabe1987 assuming my car was fixed and its a tuesday/friday, i'd come pick you up...
05:48 wannabe1987 (my car will be fixed.  no doubt there)
05:49 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Connection is only about £75.
05:49 wannabe1987 .c £75 to usd
05:49 BotSteve 115.6875 U.S. dollars
05:49 wannabe1987 plus baggage fees, whatevs, 200!
05:49 Monkeh|Lap It does involve a four hour stay in O'Hare though
05:49 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: All that should be included..
05:49 wannabe1987 takes three hours to get to ohare
05:49 wannabe1987 yeah, i know
05:49 astro73|alice sleepy.... good night
05:49 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I can't ask you to make a six hour trip
05:50 wannabe1987 night astro
05:50 wannabe1987 awwww :(  no ikea :(
05:50 Monkeh|Lap Although if it works as an excuse for you :P
05:51 wannabe1987 theres an ikea by detroit, but its a shitty one, chitown's is better
05:51 Monkeh|Lap Ouch, okay, so prices have shot up in the last few days for the non-overnight stay.
05:52 Monkeh|Lap More like 140 difference now.
05:52 wannabe1987 o.O
05:52 wannabe1987 usd or £?
05:52 Monkeh|Lap £
05:52 Monkeh|Lap So yeah, more like $220.
05:52 Monkeh|Lap .c £140 to usd
05:52 BotSteve 215.95 U.S. dollars
05:53 Monkeh|Lap Close enough.
05:53 * wannabe1987 holds her hands out
05:53 wannabe1987 see?  $200
05:53 Monkeh|Lap Only for the evening connection flight :P
05:54 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Well, I don't see why it couldn't be a friday.
05:54 wannabe1987 fridays i have the entire day off, tuesdays i have stuff at 7
05:54 wannabe1987 7p
05:54 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: If I can get the money, Friday 20th or Tuesday 24th if you're to pick me up
05:54 dr_jkl .tfw 33065
05:54 BotSteve 57°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Pompano Beach, FL!  'At least you aren't living in a small town in Alaska'
05:55 dr_jkl .calc 57f in c
05:55 BotSteve 13.8888889 degrees Celsius
05:55 Coderjoe man... I never realized just how chunky the water at the office was. I knew I didn't like drinking it
05:55 wannabe1987 hold on
05:55 wannabe1987 chunky?
05:55 Coderjoe but I found the old faucet nozzle in a cabinet and it was CAKED with lime
05:55 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Arrival time would be 1315.
05:56 Monkeh|Lap He means hard water.
05:56 Coderjoe (the water filter nozzle broke. needed to put the old one back to make the sink usable
05:56 Monkeh|Lap Which is nasty crap.
05:56 wannabe1987 i know
05:56 wannabe1987 20th my 2nd job scheduled me....so 24th would work.
05:57 Monkeh|Lap Hmm, was hoping to get in before the weekend, but that could work.
05:57 Cprossu ----yikes Monkeh
05:57 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Hm?
05:58 Cprossu the prices
05:58 Cprossu I had a 3 hour wait at ohare and I was just flying back to phoenix
05:58 Cprossu kinda funny
05:58 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yeah, Chicago will be £204 each way.
05:58 Monkeh|Lap .c £204 to usd
05:58 BotSteve 314.67 U.S. dollars
05:59 Cprossu that still could be worse
05:59 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yeah, connection flights have skyrocked to over £340.
05:59 DruidicRifleman Added a sewer grate
05:59 Monkeh|Lap They were looking more like £290 last week.
05:59 wannabe1987 sorry DruidicRifleman, you're not the greg i tagged...
06:00 Monkeh|Lap Need to check the luggage allowance
06:00 wannabe1987 (watching the 5ths cb) i handled those flags AND washed the tables....
06:01 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Those tables get some abuse.
06:01 wannabe1987 yeah.  nothing is supposed to be set on mooses table...
06:01 wannabe1987 LOOK AT IT ITS COVERED IN STUFF
06:01 Monkeh|Lap Get Chris another table, stat!
06:02 wannabe1987 he's got one to the side and one in front of him...
06:03 wannabe1987 and a whole freaking room full of them and drums....
06:03 * Experimentonomen mumbles
06:03 wannabe1987 you drunk?
06:03 Cprossu .c 288usd to english pound
06:03 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
06:03 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: He needs the tables for acoustics. Obviously.
06:03 egrsteve I think the moose table can handle a few flags
06:03 Cprossu .c 288usd to pound
06:03 BotSteve 186.709887 British pounds
06:04 wannabe1987 no, girl chris says nothing is supposed to be put on it, ITS ART
06:04 Cprossu that's to grr and back at current pricing minus the taxes
06:04 Monkeh|Lap ... WOW, I just looked at 'flexible conditions'
06:04 Monkeh|Lap From £204 to £767
06:04 wannabe1987 o.O
06:05 Monkeh|Lap Something tells me the penalty for changing my return flight would be a LOT LESS than £500
06:06 Experimentonomen *burp*
06:07 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: The return flight will be a pain in the arse on a tuesday.
06:07 wannabe1987 what, you doing a tuesday to a t uesday?
06:08 Monkeh|Lap Dunno, was thinking of two weeks like that, but if I'm catching a lift with you, Friday will be easier for leaving.
06:08 BatSteve bedtime
06:08 BatSteve night all
06:08 BatSteve welcome back BotSteve
06:08 Monkeh|Lap Night BatSteve
06:08 Monkeh|Lap BatSteve: I'm sure your PC won't catch fire. Really.
06:09 wannabe1987 every friday in february is open
06:09 wannabe1987 bye bats!!!!! <3 :D
06:09 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Ah, okay.
06:09 Monkeh|Lap A Friday it'll be for the return, then.
06:09 wannabe1987 the 27th is *also* open.....if you wanted to come in on that friday....
06:09 wannabe1987 the 20th is the only friday i'm working :P
06:10 Cprossu Monkeh all a refundable ticket means
06:10 Cprossu is you pay for the 2.5 tickets instead of 1 and a $150 cancellation
06:10 wannabe1987 meow  meow  meow  meow  meow
06:10 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yeah, I just checked, if I wanted to rebook my return flight it'll cost £100.
06:10 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Which is a goddamn lot less than £500 extra EACH WAY.
06:11 Cprossu the time I went there for a month I just got one way tockets
06:11 Cprossu *tickets
06:11 wannabe1987 THUMPER
06:11 Cprossu ended up being cheaper than buying round trip
06:11 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: .. Ye gods, I don't get any actual luggage :|
06:12 wannabe1987 no, you put your donations in checked, and your STUFF in carryons....
06:12 Cprossu you're shitting me Monkeh|Lap
06:12 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: No, I.. don't get any checked luggage.
06:12 wannabe1987 ah.  too expensive?
06:12 Cprossu you usually get 2 for a international!
06:12 Monkeh|Lap Economy only gets you one item of HAND LUGGAGE and a laptop.
06:12 Cprossu wow.
06:12 Monkeh|Lap Fuck you, BA.
06:12 wannabe1987 maybe thats from us to international, Cprossu
06:13 Monkeh|Lap I can't fit all my stuff AND the bits I want to take to the lab in hand luggage.
06:13 Monkeh|Lap I was actually intending to bring some tools with me
06:13 wannabe1987 you can buy stuff here :/  like a pair of pants, and shirts....
06:13 wannabe1987 is more expensive, i k
06:13 Cprossu rofl he'll get to experience the shittiness of the grand rapids walmart
06:13 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: This is true, but then I'll have the trouble of bringing it back.
06:13 wannabe1987 not walmart, meijer.
06:14 wannabe1987 come on now...
06:14 Monkeh|Lap ffs, I wish the lights would stop going out
06:14 Cprossu meijer is much better
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06:14 Cprossu except they don't carry my damn cherry rc cola
06:14 Cprossu lol
06:14 Monkeh|Lap I'm amazed my UPS hasn't switched over
06:14 Monkeh|Lap The lights just went totally out for about half a second
06:14 wannabe1987 odd
06:14 wannabe1987 storm?
06:14 Monkeh|Lap All quiet here.
06:14 wannabe1987 then why are the lights going off?
06:14 Monkeh|Lap Could be some nasty weather further off, though.
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06:14 Cprossu 1/2 a second = roughly what the caps can take on a computer oddly enough
06:14 Monkeh|Lap There's some dodgy HV lines around here.
06:15 wannabe1987 ah
06:15 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Yeah, and everything has extra caps in front of it in this place.
06:15 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Either from the UPS or my surge protectors (I learnt about those the hard way)
06:16 wannabe1987 wb egrsteve
06:16 wannabe1987 so Monkeh|Lap, who is paying for your trip?
06:16 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: If I can convince her, female parental unit.
06:16 wannabe1987 nice
06:17 wannabe1987 you're how old again?  i keep forgetting ages :/
06:17 wannabe1987 i fail
06:17 Monkeh|Lap Old enough that I shouldn't be borrowing that sort of money from my mother, but there's no work going in this arse end of the country
06:17 wannabe1987 ;(
06:17 Monkeh|Lap At least none I'm going to do
06:18 wannabe1987 what is there to do workwise?
06:18 Monkeh|Lap I do NOT work in supermarkets, I am NOT a cleaner, and I am most definitely NOT a nurse.
06:18 wannabe1987 lol no
06:18 wannabe1987 .bug
06:18 Monkeh|Lap And that's most everything going around here
06:18 BotSteve To report website bugs, email:  helpdesk at thegeekgroup dot org
06:18 Monkeh|Lap There's a few factories around including a plastic injection moulding place, but..
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06:18 Monkeh|Lap There's more people looking for work at them than jobs
06:18 wannabe1987 hi Guardianzozo
06:19 Guardianzozo hola!
06:19 wannabe1987 yeah, thats how it goes
06:19 wannabe1987 como esta?
06:19 Monkeh|Lap And I did work experience at said injection moulding factory. I would not take a job there if they offered, which they won't.
06:19 Guardianzozo asi asi (i think) eu tu?
06:19 Experimentonomen guten morgen Guardianzozo
06:19 Monkeh|Lap After two weeks of essentially being their slave, the floor manager came up with excuses to get rid of me before his son went on holiday with him.
06:19 wannabe1987 asi asi = so so
06:20 Guardianzozo yo Experimentonomen
06:20 wannabe1987 y tu, not eu tu....
06:20 Guardianzozo yay i was rignt XD
06:20 Guardianzozo ah ok
06:20 wannabe1987 soy consada (tired)
06:20 Monkeh|Lap Funnily enough, his son was seriously incompetent at his job and the entire staff was going to talk to the owner about it when he came back (.. the same day those two were going off)
06:20 Cprossu hey Guardianzozo I haven't been back in the mc server for a while
06:21 Guardianzozo hey Cprossu, i canty log in to it
06:21 Guardianzozo cant*
06:21 Monkeh|Lap So yeah, life's crap and boring down here, hence the trip.
06:21 Monkeh|Lap Or hopeful trip.
06:21 Experimentonomen Cprossu, whitelust srver or public server ?
06:22 Guardianzozo his server is for the tgg lab
06:22 Guardianzozo (as far as i know)
06:22 wannabe1987 i don't blame you for wanting a trip.
06:22 Experimentonomen ok only for those that have been to the lab irl them
06:23 Monkeh|Lap .. Man, don't even get power with an economy ticket?
06:23 DruidicRifleman hey Cprossu i added a sewer
06:23 Monkeh|Lap The hell am I going to last 9 hours on a plane without my laptop.
06:24 Experimentonomen bring 9 batteries ;)
06:24 Cprossu Experimentonomen it's public-ish
06:24 eadthem cprossu kick the hampster  i think its on a break
06:24 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: I don't have 9 batteries. :{
06:24 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: I have one, and it's about four years old.
06:24 Cprossu eadthem ??
06:24 wannabe1987 i read
06:24 eadthem minecraft server
06:24 Cprossu oh you need the new snapshot to get into it
06:25 wannabe1987 actually, my trip to england i slept
06:25 wannabe1987 the trip home i read/knit/talked with my classmates
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06:25 wannabe1987 Niobe|Phone!!!!
06:25 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I suppose I can survive with my Kindle. Lack of music will be a killer, though.
06:25 Cprossu eadthem let me double check
06:25 Guardianzozo you made it a "beta" cpro?
06:25 wannabe1987 ipod?
06:25 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Only have my phone.
06:25 Experimentonomen i have minecraft 1.0, i havent really gotten what this snapshot stuff is
06:25 Niobe|Phone hey, guys :)
06:25 wannabe1987 or other portable music player
06:25 wannabe1987 awww
06:25 Monkeh|Lap It won't run 9 hours with music playing
06:25 Cprossu Guardianzozo yeah because 1.0 sucks
06:25 Monkeh|Lap It'll do 6 or so though
06:26 wannabe1987 sing!  and then blame the alcohol.
06:26 Guardianzozo then i cant join =(
06:26 wannabe1987 which is non existant cuz you can't afford it :/
06:26 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: :)
06:26 Cprossu Guardianzozo =(
06:26 Cprossu really?!
06:26 * egrsteve runs off to read wheel of time
06:26 Niobe|Phone my cell, thank lemming for helping meh...lol
06:26 Experimentonomen Monkeh|Lap, try a mp3 player, i have one that claims 25 hours continous listening
06:26 wannabe1987 bye steve
06:26 Cprossu Guardianzozo: http://assets.minecraft.net/12w01a/minecraft.jar
06:26 wannabe1987 Experimentonomen: he can't if he aint got one
06:26 Guardianzozo i got to many other servers i work on thats not updated
06:26 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: I.. can't justify an MP3 player. :P
06:26 Cprossu ^ nab that, put it in your .minecraft/bin
06:27 wannabe1987 i'd send you mine, but its pink :/
06:27 Cprossu Guardianzozo remame your old minecraft.jar
06:27 wannabe1987 and i need it
06:27 Cprossu then put it back
06:27 Experimentonomen u can get decent ones on ebay for 50 bucks with 16gig memory
06:27 wannabe1987 Experimentonomen he doesn't have 50
06:27 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: Err.. Yeah, cheap ones will melt my ears.
06:27 Guardianzozo join ts so i can yell at you =P
06:27 wannabe1987 yay its charged
06:28 Experimentonomen the ones i have sound fairly good, zap sr500, two generic chinese ones and a sony psp
06:28 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: I'm used to wearing $300 headphones with an amp.
06:28 wannabe1987 i got permission from the maint guy at work today to have a stanley multitool on me/in my backpack, but no swiss army type knives allowed
06:28 wannabe1987 then i quoted gibbs and the other CNA got the reference :D
06:29 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: That seems odd.
06:29 wannabe1987 its a weapons free zone.
06:30 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Yeah, so they'll let you take a multitool and not a swiss army knife. :/
06:30 wannabe1987 its a nursing home....
06:30 wannabe1987 yeah.  i know
06:30 Monkeh|Lap They'd hate me.
06:30 wannabe1987 i don't get it either....but i'll go with the flow....
06:30 * Monkeh|Lap goes nowhere without a knife on him
06:30 wannabe1987 good luck at the airport...
06:30 wannabe1987 they'll take it away from you
06:30 wannabe1987 ....
06:30 Monkeh|Lap Well yeah, it'll go in checked baggage for the flight
06:30 * Experimentonomen doesent carry anything by his keys
06:30 wannabe1987 you get checked baggage?
06:30 Monkeh|Lap I'm not quite that daft. :)
06:31 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Very much unsure with BA but I'm looking at other airlines now.
06:31 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: They've annoyed me, they want another £700 so I can get some electricity.
06:31 wannabe1987 we were in washington dc.  dad accidentally had a swis army knife in his backpack.  the smithsonian caught the knife, the wash monunment, capitol, congress, library, supreme court, etc didn't....
06:31 wannabe1987 brb
06:31 wannabe1987 PM btw
06:32 Guardianzozo druid
06:32 Guardianzozo DruidicRifleman, join TS
06:33 Hackbat welp i solved yet another mystery of my childhood
06:33 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Icuj3duAbM&amp;feature=related
06:33 BotSteve Title: Johnson & Friends - The Pink Thread - YouTube
06:34 Hackbat the creepyass waterbottle was only thing I remember from it
06:34 Experimentonomen *thud*
06:35 wannabe1987 uh oh
06:35 wannabe1987 man overboard
06:35 wannabe1987 or man down*
06:35 LemLap anyone here good with blender/scad?
06:41 JA12 I use blender but I'm not so sure about that 'good' part
06:44 Toastdude Blender 3D?
06:44 JA12 yup
06:44 Toastdude I use it a lot
06:44 Toastdude Not exactly "good" with it, though..
06:45 Toastdude At least made this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhMD72CXEh0
06:45 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group Logo - YouTube
06:45 JA12 there's so much to it so I'm not sure if many would answer being good with it =)
06:45 JA12 cool
06:46 Toastdude Very true...
06:46 Toastdude I just got into using composite nodes, and made all the planets using nodes for an atmospheric glow
06:46 JA12 it has typo on it though
06:47 Toastdude .....
06:47 Toastdude At least I changed it to Leonard St. Labs for the screensaver...
06:47 Toastdude I'm DUMB.....
06:47 wannabe1987 shit
06:48 wannabe1987 brb
06:48 MoxieMike ?
06:50 JA12 Toastdude: the geek group heave industries
06:50 Toastdude Yeah, I saw that... hence the bit about being dumb..
06:52 JA12 nah
06:52 JA12 mistakes happen
06:52 Toastdude I didn't notice that in all 6 months...
06:53 JA12 and if you still have the file, an easy fix
06:53 wannabe1987 stupid fucking nose
06:54 wannabe1987 i just watched my sheets, too
06:54 wannabe1987 washed
06:56 Niobe|Phone i'm sorting stuff at HSBNE... fun... lol
06:58 wannabe1987 better than a nose bleed!  i need to go put stuff in the wash, brb
07:01 JA12 I
07:01 JA12 'm off
07:01 JA12 I'd like to talk about composite nodes but I'm too tired
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07:02 JA12 so off to bed. If Seroster asks, I didn't take camera with me
07:02 JA12 night o/ ->
07:03 wannabe1987 night JA12
07:03 Toastdude Night
07:04 wannabe1987 sleep well
07:07 Coderjoe mmm
07:07 Coderjoe i like heaving industries
07:11 * Hackbat needs more Geeky screensavers for his kinde
07:11 Hackbat Kindle
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07:17 wannabe1987 .c 18-12
07:17 BotSteve 6
07:17 Toastdude Hackbat: I have one for you.. One I made at least
07:18 Hackbat oh?
07:19 Toastdude http://www.mediafire.com/?di9oatsd608ymrv
07:19 BotSteve Title: TheGeekGroup3DLogo.scr
07:19 wannabe1987 .c 21-12
07:19 BotSteve 9
07:19 Toastdude "geekgroup" is the password..
07:19 wannabe1987 yes, i cannot do basic math
07:19 wannabe1987 i hate military time :P
07:21 Coderjoe simple: if past 12, if the tens digit is 1, ignore it and subtract 2
07:22 wannabe1987 what?
07:22 Coderjoe for the 4 hours past 20, special handling
07:22 wannabe1987 my sister said mod12 but thats confusing too
07:23 Coderjoe really, just subtract 12. I was offering a shortcut for the first 10 hours past noon
07:23 wannabe1987 shes going to be an educator
07:23 wannabe1987 i know....thats why i was using BotSteve
07:24 Coderjoe use it more and you'll get the hang of it. possibly without having to convert back to 12h
07:25 wannabe1987 yeah, like 1800 (4p) and 2000 (8p) and 1300, and 2300 i know...its just the odd ones, really, that trip me
07:25 Coderjoe 18 is 6p
07:26 wannabe1987 see?
07:26 wannabe1987 i dn't know
07:30 wannabe1987 up around noon, its 230 now...
07:31 wannabe1987 i work at 3:30 in GR, so leave at 3, but have to go to bank first (ATM) and then moms, so more like leave at 2:15.....
07:31 wannabe1987 noon is a great time to get up, right?!
07:32 Monkeh|Lap It works for me
07:32 Monkeh|Lap Hell, it's 0732 here and I'm still awake. ;)
07:32 Coderjoe you work at 0330? that's pretty early
07:32 wannabe1987 no
07:32 wannabe1987 330p
07:33 wannabe1987 i would hope no patients are up at 3:30a
07:33 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: She means 1530, stop confusing her. :)
07:33 Coderjoe holy crap
07:33 Coderjoe kids these days
07:33 * wannabe1987 slaps joe
07:33 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
07:33 Coderjoe on the vevo for gwen stefani's "what you waiting for?" video: "OMFG ITS A LADY GAGA JR"
07:34 wannabe1987 OMG ITS A lwq1996!
07:34 Coderjoe the holycrap went with that
07:37 lwq1996 hi
07:37 wannabe1987 hi :)
07:37 wannabe1987 how are you?
07:38 lwq1996 frustrated at minecraft server
07:38 wannabe1987 aw :(
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07:42 wannabe1987 hi chunks!
07:42 chunks hi
07:42 lwq1996 hi
07:42 wannabe1987 how are you?
07:42 lwq1996 OH I REMEMBER HIM NOW
07:43 lwq1996 hasnt been on in a long time or when i was here
07:43 chunks i'm good... how are you?
07:43 wannabe1987 yes, lee
07:43 wannabe1987 doing well
07:44 chunks does anyone here watch photonicinductions videos?
07:44 wannabe1987 yes....
07:44 wannabe1987 yes, he called boden out
07:44 wannabe1987 yes he left
07:44 chunks i just found out
07:44 chunks and i saw the videos
07:45 lwq1996 yeah
07:45 lwq1996 fuck him he bashed tgg
07:45 wannabe1987 theres a thread on that on tgg forums
07:45 chunks well... he wasn't really into the big organizations like tgg
07:46 Coderjoe i'm amused by the 180 degree turn
07:46 Coderjoe from "check these guys out" to "f you, you ripped me off"
07:47 chunks i think photonic said that because he was tired of it all
07:48 lwq1996 he can go blow his brains out about it or suck it up like a ig boy thats what i think
07:50 chunks i will say it was kinda fun watching his videos
07:50 lwq1996 yes ut he didnt have to bash tgg
07:51 lwq1996 you want the link to where you can download his videos
07:51 lwq1996 ftp://projectd8.org/YouTube/Photonicinduction/
07:51 chunks nah... i've seen them all
07:51 wannabe1987 my sisters patients are telling her they hope she feels better soon.  its supposed to be the opposite way
07:53 wannabe1987 http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/387899_2839730629046_1132687542_3044512_826159785_n.jpg  i like this guy's photography....
07:53 tesla4d Hey, I looked up physicsduck on youtube and it said 0 views.
07:53 wannabe1987 http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/406662_2833273507622_1132687542_3041376_1885235840_n.jpg
07:54 tesla4d This is... the proudest day of my life. *sniff*
07:54 wannabe1987 lol
07:54 wannabe1987 supposed to say 491,749 views :/
07:54 egrsteve|lurking you sound like someone posting first on a comment
07:55 lwq1996 lol
07:55 tesla4d Well, the truth is that I would. But I don't have a youtube account anymore.
07:55 tesla4d I told them "I DON'T WANT YOUR PITY"
07:55 lwq1996 btw the youtube views are updated like every 2hours
07:56 egrsteve|lurking i see 9 also
07:56 egrsteve|lurking 0 also
07:56 Coderjoe on what?
07:57 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/user/physicsduck?
07:57 BotSteve Title: Physicsduck's Channel - YouTube
07:57 wannabe1987 minuse the ?
07:57 wannabe1987 minus*
07:57 Coderjoe http://www.youtube.com/user/Physicsduck/videos
07:57 BotSteve Title: Physicsduck's Channel - YouTube
07:57 Coderjoe i see 402 vids
07:57 wannabe1987 shows 402 vids, 1251 subs, and 491xxx views
07:57 wannabe1987 ya'lls messed up
07:59 lwq1996 i see 7on the page and 0 on the actual video
07:59 lwq1996 no kelly the new video
07:59 egrsteve|lurking yay more blue cherry
08:00 wannabe1987 yesterdays?
08:00 wannabe1987 or was there one for the 6th?
08:00 lwq1996 todays
08:00 wannabe1987 dead kitty?
08:00 lwq1996 click videos
08:00 wannabe1987 oooo
08:00 lwq1996 helicopter fun
08:00 wannabe1987 i see 8 videos
08:00 wannabe1987 views*
08:00 wannabe1987 i don't have 46 min now tho to watch it :/
08:00 lwq1996 yay im the 8th
08:01 lwq1996 i do
08:01 wannabe1987 my arm hurts.....
08:03 lwq1996 HEY DRUIDIC YOU HERE
08:04 wannabe1987 shhhhh
08:04 wannabe1987 he's trying to sleep!
08:04 * lwq1996 gives druid a 1/5 of vodka
08:04 egrsteve|lurking Cprossu: you send a flag?
08:05 wannabe1987 yes
08:06 DruidicRifleman BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOZE!!!
08:06 DruidicRifleman REALISE THE KRAKEN
08:07 lwq1996 lol
08:08 wannabe1987 :facepalm:
08:08 lwq1996 wannabe i had too
08:08 wannabe1987 :sigh:  ik
08:09 lwq1996 and like hes ever going to sleep right
08:09 wannabe1987 like he ever sleeps period
08:09 lwq1996 yup
08:09 DruidicRifleman you can lead an irish man to water but you can't make him drink however leadhim to abar and you can't make him not drink
08:09 wannabe1987 lol
08:10 lwq1996 MINI DISKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111
08:10 * wannabe1987 put her headphones into the computer and started the video....
08:10 Cprossu egrsteve|lurking indeed I did
08:10 lwq1996 true that druidic
08:10 Cprossu glad it arrived safely
08:10 Cprossu was the only god damn USA made one I could find
08:10 wannabe1987 what is blue cherry?
08:11 Cprossu security DVR
08:11 lwq1996 cprossu hate foriegn?
08:11 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: A company which makes video input cards.
08:11 Cprossu for my state flag yeah
08:11 wannabe1987 no, made in america is best!
08:11 lwq1996 omg he talks about photon
08:11 Cprossu it's actually a nice flag too
08:11 wannabe1987 ewwww ohio :/
08:12 Cprossu texas light hahahah rofl though
08:12 DruidicRifleman i love beer
08:13 lwq1996 RIBON CABLE
08:13 lwq1996 lol
08:13 wannabe1987 what kind of beer?
08:14 tesla4d Man.
08:14 wannabe1987 man beer?
08:14 tesla4d I grew up right next to Stallard Technologies and never knew about it.
08:14 tesla4d And now that I know of them, I've moved away. >:(
08:15 Monkeh|Lap Uh oh
08:15 Cprossu tesla4d : eh?
08:15 Monkeh|Lap Boden's given me an idea.
08:15 wannabe1987 ??
08:15 wannabe1987 oh noes
08:15 wannabe1987 what?
08:15 wannabe1987 dave is singing veggie tales....
08:15 Monkeh|Lap A flag they're going to get.
08:15 lwq1996 oh shit Monkeh|Lap has got an idea
08:15 Monkeh|Lap From me.
08:15 wannabe1987 which?
08:15 Monkeh|Lap A pirate fish.
08:15 wannabe1987 royal navy?  a what?
08:15 wannabe1987 pirate fish?
08:16 Cprossu rofl ribbon cable.
08:16 Monkeh|Lap Someone here must know that.
08:16 Cprossu 34 pin?
08:16 Cprossu WOWWWWWw
08:17 lwq1996 WOW for once i got it before cprossu
08:17 Cprossu that is a hell of a donation
08:17 Cprossu you were also watching it earlier than I was
08:17 lwq1996 yeah true
08:18 lwq1996 i love castle nuts
08:18 lwq1996 god damn chrome
08:20 Monkeh|Lap ahahaha, oh man, that's awesome.
08:20 Cprossu chris I am a real nerd, I build my own.
08:20 Monkeh|Lap Batman is the man.
08:20 lwq1996 i need to get a stallard computer
08:21 lwq1996 i would build my own but i dont like searching for parts
08:21 DruidicRifleman I am actually drinking kraken
08:21 CaptainNiobe i r back home... *signs out of phone*
08:21 * wannabe1987 is falling asleep listening to boden.....sounds like a bad idea to get bodens voice in my sleep
08:21 lwq1996 i like how he can spin the big blade with his hand
08:21 wannabe1987 wb niobe
08:22 CaptainNiobe ty
08:22 DruidicRifleman hows australia
08:22 CaptainNiobe humid lol
08:22 lwq1996 i got to do this
08:22 lwq1996 hey masterofmonks you sweetheart is here
08:22 DruidicRifleman Do what
08:22 DruidicRifleman ah LMAO
08:23 CaptainNiobe mom's asleep atm
08:23 lwq1996 DAMNIT
08:23 wannabe1987 he better be, its three am
08:23 * CaptainNiobe waits for phone to time out
08:23 DruidicRifleman Soooo when are you leaving that prission colony and comming to the civilised new world
08:24 lwq1996 me?
08:24 DruidicRifleman not you
08:24 wannabe1987 no, niobe
08:24 lwq1996 oh niobe
08:24 CaptainNiobe mom may be coming to this convict country... lol... gotta decide that (ya, ok, so we're moving fast... so? :P)
08:24 wannabe1987 going there for good?  or for a visit.
08:25 lwq1996 bow chicha wow wow
08:25 wannabe1987 chicka*
08:25 lwq1996 ok is that steve?
08:25 DruidicRifleman i've banned Several australians for trollings
08:25 lwq1996 like batsteve
08:25 DruidicRifleman on aforum i ran
08:26 lwq1996 wait wait wait is that batsteve in the helicopter
08:26 wannabe1987 no, he flies planes
08:26 wannabe1987 not helicopters
08:27 wannabe1987 hold on tho, i'll get there eventually
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08:28 wannabe1987 did you get my PM?
08:28 * CaptainNiobe curses pidgin freezing up
08:28 CaptainNiobe i did, but then... yeah... tbh, i don't know, i'll ask when he gets up
08:28 CaptainNiobe or you can :D
08:28 wannabe1987 ok.  i asked him, its sitting in a PM, but i figured i'd ask you too :P
08:29 CaptainNiobe ahh... yeah, okays... :)
08:29 Monkeh|Lap Am I the only one who identifed that heli from the intro shot to the blog?
08:30 MoxieMike they got my maine state flag
08:30 MoxieMike i'm happy
08:30 lwq1996 i wanna fly a jet i hate slow moving things
08:30 CaptainNiobe i'm just watching it now, but don't have a clue about helicopters lol
08:30 wannabe1987 lee: bats is a skinny ass guy, this dude is not bats, besides he says the guys name in teh vid, but i don't tmemrember it.
08:31 lwq1996 me neither thats why i asked
08:32 tesla4d Monkeh|Lap: Nope.
08:32 tesla4d I just about creamed my pants.
08:32 tesla4d Might pull it up in X-Plane now.
08:32 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: What, over an R44?
08:32 wannabe1987 the video is finally playing smoothly :D
08:32 tesla4d Well, tomorrow.
08:33 tesla4d Monkeh|Lap: More over, "OMG I KNOW THAT!!"
08:33 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: heh.
08:33 tesla4d I'm also that guy who has fun trying to identify all of the guns and airplanes in action movies.
08:33 wannabe1987 i've met people like you
08:34 CaptainNiobe MoxieMike, do you have a tgg name different to what you use here? about to add your name to the maine flag list (and who sent the irish flag?)
08:34 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: See, I rarely have to try. :)
08:34 MoxieMike i've met people like everybody
08:34 wannabe1987 i've also met people who will disprove the physics or whatnot in a movie during hte movie.
08:34 tesla4d Monkeh|Lap: Riiiight. I bow to your e-peen. -.-
08:34 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: eheh.
08:35 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: I just have too much research time on my hands.
08:35 wannabe1987 you need a job!
08:35 wannabe1987 :P
08:35 Monkeh|Lap Ahhhh, I love that rotor blade sound.
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08:36 wannabe1987 morning iSasha
08:36 MoxieMike nothing quite like an airfoil striking the turbulence caused by thother
08:36 MoxieMike another*
08:38 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 1-6-12 Helicopter Fun and Photonicinduction http://youtu.be/w-ANs3jmYKw
08:38 wannabe1987 thanks BotSteve
08:38 BotSteve Happy to help, wannabe1987
08:38 MoxieMike thanks botsteve
08:38 BotSteve Happy to help, MoxieMike
08:39 MoxieMike maybe there should be some more variety added to his replies to "thanks"
08:39 tesla4d This drama with photonicinduction is weird.
08:40 MoxieMike i'm going to watch it tomorrow
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08:42 DruidicRifleman who else is drinking!!!
08:42 MoxieMike i just finished drinking
08:43 MoxieMike had a bit over 3 pints of beer, yet less than 4
08:44 egrsteve|lurking indeed it is, Chris makes it clear he has no hard feelings and hopes for the best for him, see his latest blog for it
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08:45 MoxieMike blog vid?
08:45 egrsteve|lurking yes
08:45 MoxieMike ok
08:45 MoxieMike what started the drama?
08:45 egrsteve|lurking botsteve just posted the link
08:45 egrsteve|lurking hard to say
08:46 DruidicRifleman NO one knows
08:46 egrsteve|lurking well, one person knows
08:46 MoxieMike huh
08:46 MoxieMike two really
08:46 lwq1996 it was about him copying him and trying to make it look like hes etter
08:46 MoxieMike meh
08:46 lwq1996 ik
08:46 MoxieMike i'm not a huge fan of drame
08:47 MoxieMike drama*
08:47 egrsteve|lurking I try to avoid drama also
08:47 Cprossu indeed
08:47 lwq1996 its about the christmas bulb vid mostly too
08:47 Coderjoe all I have been able to tell is that PI got his panties in a bind because Chris asks for dontations and "ran out of original ideas" and copied his christmas ornament ball thing
08:47 Cprossu I think it was the accumulation of a lot of stuff
08:48 Coderjoe sure, but he spend a LOT of time complaining about Chris
08:48 tesla4d Really? I never got that vibe from him.
08:48 Cprossu ever hear about 'the straw that breaks the camel's back'
08:48 tesla4d Unless it's just on a blog that I've never seen.
08:48 Cprossu I got the impression that he was tired of a lot of annoying things
08:48 lwq1996 yeah
08:48 Cprossu tesla4d it was literally a small segment in a 40 minute video
08:49 Coderjoe http://www.youtube.com/user/Thisisphoton
08:49 BotSteve Title: Thisisphoton's Channel - YouTube
08:49 CaptainNiobe Cprossu, did you send in the arizona flag? (for the list)
08:49 Cprossu yeah I did
08:49 CaptainNiobe ok, ty, adding you in :)
08:49 lwq1996 an american made on too
08:49 egrsteve|lurking I Rather not speculate, if PI wants to give more detail, let him, else, the world has lost an interesting channel of destruction
08:49 Cprossu yeah notes is it's american made
08:50 Cprossu yeah egrsteve|lurking it's a sad day
08:50 Coderjoe he did go into some detail in the 14 minute video he posted on that channel
08:50 Monkeh|Lap The way he made comments about the number of subscribers is a bit petty, though
08:50 Cprossu April 1st is nearly 4 months away so yeah =(
08:50 Monkeh|Lap He got loads of subscribers because people wanted to see him break things without even knowing what he was actually doing
08:51 Monkeh|Lap TGG gets subscribers from people who are really interested in what's being done and, often, want to get involved in it..
08:51 Cprossu also our growth was screwed by the year+ inactive
08:51 Monkeh|Lap There are far more people who go 'coooooooool, flames out of a vacuum cleaner' than people who really do want to learn how tesla coils and industrial robots work
08:51 Cprossu and we're still not public yet
08:51 Cprossu which is not helping
08:52 Monkeh|Lap For every person who's honestly interested in the physics and ideas behind a tesla coil, there are five hundred who just want to see things catch fire and explode.
08:53 CaptainNiobe i want to make a tesla coil to piss off my noisy next door neighbours... lol...
08:55 tesla4d Wow. That is some astounding wankery in Photonic's video.
08:56 MoxieMike vid 1 or 2?
08:57 tesla4d Vid 1, I think. "Photonicinduction Leaves You Tube Pt 1" The one where he claims that Chris stole his idea and profited from it.
08:58 Monkeh|Lap He more or less claims TGG gets £40,000 a month from stealing other peoples ideas and does it to make money.
08:58 MoxieMike i aparently picked number 2 first and watching him point a 1W laser at his cam
08:59 tesla4d Monkeh|Lap: I think he was talking about a different guy when he said that? Sometimes it's hard to understand his accent.
08:59 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: No, he was talking about Chris.
08:59 tesla4d Strange.
08:59 * tesla4d listens to it again.
08:59 lwq1996 ok going to bed later
09:00 MoxieMike bed time for me too
09:00 MoxieMike see you all tomorrow
09:00 DruidicRifleman Why is it when i am drinking
09:01 einball good morning
09:01 tesla4d Honestly, I have some small concerns about how TGG works. Like the geekmobiles. Are they Chris' cars, or the group's? But wow, Photonic is way off the mark.
09:01 DruidicRifleman DO i think it would be really cool to learn to fly
09:01 Coderjoe he was also complaining about someone else stealing hist stuff, too
09:01 Monkeh|Lap "See, without too much disrespect, an organisation like that, or disorganisation, if I may, accept hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations, and yet they still look at my channel for ideas, to profit for themselves."
09:01 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: ^
09:02 DruidicRifleman the issue i have right now is growing a chapter here
09:02 DruidicRifleman with out the crapload of shit that goes into GR
09:02 tesla4d Yeah, but the part where he mentioned the  forty thousand pound number, he mentioned somebody's name, and I swear I can't understand what he's saying, but it doesn't sound like he's talking about Chris. *shrug*
09:03 Monkeh|Lap "One individual in his own house,  and a 240V supply, can do the same job as 50 geezers in a so-called lab, who have hundreds of thousands of pounds of donations."
09:04 tesla4d Keep going. I think it's like the next or second next sentence.
09:04 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: Yes, okay, he's talking about some guy I've never heard of.
09:04 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: He said literally as much about TGG before that anyway.
09:07 Coderjoe he spent about 1/3 of the video complaining about people (and TGG specifically, though there was that other guy as well) stealing his ideas or videos for profit
09:07 Coderjoe (I actually watched it with a stopwatch)
09:07 MoxieMike the problem is that chris meant it as an homage
09:08 tesla4d MoxieMike: That's exactly what surprised me.
09:08 tesla4d Why would he be upset about a shout-out like that?
09:08 Monkeh|Lap Oh, wow, these guys on the comments blathering on about Chris not doing any work..
09:08 Coderjoe hey youtube... when I click "load more suggestions" I expect you to show stuff other than you've already listed
09:08 MoxieMike ryan william johnson is the name he said that nobody can understand
09:09 Monkeh|Lap He spends his whole day trying to keep things safe, organised, and FUNDED.
09:10 tesla4d I think it's interesting to compare the attitude here with the attitude I would expect Jamie Mantzel to have if something similar happened.
09:10 Coderjoe I saw some videos from that johnson guy listed all over the place today after I saw PI's rant
09:11 DruidicRifleman and Fire fox crashes cause of hom
09:11 DruidicRifleman him
09:11 Coderjoe ray william johnson
09:12 MoxieMike sounded like ryan
09:12 MoxieMike but ray works too
09:12 Coderjoe http://www.youtube.com/user/RayWilliamJohnson/videos
09:12 BotSteve Title: RayWilliamJohnson's Channel - YouTube
09:12 MoxieMike ah
09:12 Coderjoe he makes a clip show type thing, it appears
09:12 tesla4d Oh, wow. No, I'm glad I've never heard of him before. *close tab*
09:12 Monkeh|Lap You guys suck at accents. :P
09:13 MoxieMike you should hear mine when i finish work
09:14 Monkeh|Lap I love how Photonic doesn't quite grasp the concept of making a professional video with the intention of being able to attract major sponsors..
09:14 MoxieMike no he doesn't
09:14 Coderjoe this johnson guy has 5 million subs and over 1 billion views
09:15 tesla4d Coderjoe: I didn't know there were that many Grannies on Youtube these days.
09:15 Monkeh|Lap Good for him, I don't give a shit and he could vanish off the face of the earth tomorrow, it'd make no difference to me.
09:15 MoxieMike i find that his suggesting "don't take youtube too seriously" is being caused by him taking youtube too seriously
09:16 Monkeh|Lap I said earlier, he took his fun hobby too seriously because he cared about 250k random people watching it and didn't have thick enough skin to cope with it
09:16 Coderjoe as shown by his "can't please everyone" comment
09:17 Monkeh|Lap Stop pleasing people and just do what you find fun
09:17 MoxieMike yup
09:17 Monkeh|Lap Those who are pleased are pleased. Those who are not.. Who cares?!
09:17 tesla4d I always take issue with that attitude in general.
09:17 Monkeh|Lap I'm starting to think he doesn't know TGG exists outside YT.
09:18 MoxieMike sad
09:18 tonsofpcs ?
09:19 MoxieMike his overreaction to the situation
09:20 tesla4d It's an admirable goal to live for yourself, but there are certain people who would end up in handcuffs or a straitjacket if the didn't care at all about what people who aren't pleased by their actions. :P But that's taking the saying too seriously, I'm sure.
09:22 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: 'that attitude in general'? My example was quite specific. In Photonic's case, what he does hurts nobody and affects nobody outside his loft (unless it goes horribly, horribly wrong.. which it probably wouldn't), so who cares what people think?
09:22 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: If what you do does affect other people then yes, you need to consider how..
09:22 tesla4d That's why I said "In general"
09:23 tesla4d It's not a good rule of thumb to use all the time.
09:23 tesla4d Just sometimes.
09:23 Monkeh|Lap tesla4d: It's pretty simple: If it doesn't affect others, who cares.
09:24 tesla4d Wait, no, that's not what that means. You're right. "that attitude in general" doesn't mean what I meant. I should have said "that attitude, when applied generally"
09:24 Coderjoe too many people
09:24 tesla4d That's my lack of sleep speaking.
09:25 tesla4d That's a condition I intend to correct. Good night, everybody.
09:27 tesla4d (Actually, one more thing. The sign behind him throughout the video. I'm pretty sure that sign, tongue-in-cheek though it is, might point to a lack of understanding of what affects other people. Maybe? And now good night, for realz, yo.)
09:28 Experimentonomen im tire too and despite beeing almost mid day, im gonna goto bed and rest
09:35 DruidicRifleman yeah phoyonics vid is bad
09:39 DruidicRifleman crashy glitchy
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09:46 einball Uhm .. photonicinduction bashed chris?
09:46 einball *duck
09:47 chunks yup
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09:48 einball wow .. I'd really like to see that vid :P
09:48 chunks its on youtube
09:49 chunks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjvskVvaZ0s
09:49 BotSteve Title: Photonicinduction Leaves You Tube Pt 1 - YouTube
09:49 einball ouh ah tnx
09:54 einball I have so much problems understanding his accent :)
10:08 electricguy honk honk :)
10:09 einball (honk if you are horny!)
10:10 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-5ArXBkINk ;)
10:10 BotSteve Title: Dj Bomba - Honk If You Are Horny - YouTube
10:10 Cprossu night all, it's been a dwamatic day
10:11 LemLap making one hell of a mess here atm
10:11 LemLap anyone wants to check the camera it's up
10:12 LemLap http://space.hsbne.org:52169/sample/lvafull.html
10:12 BotSteve Title: LiveApplet (Medium)
10:12 Cprossu einball I had to update and roll back the minecraft servers version all within the same day. so we're back on snapshot 50 which will work with 1.00
10:13 einball I don't play minecraft Cprossu :)
10:13 Cprossu I'm sure electricguy and electronics are going to be confused
10:13 Cprossu o_o
10:13 Cprossu coulnd't remember who's all working o it
10:13 electricguy whuts?
10:13 einball I wish you a good night :)
10:13 Cprossu I mean we're up to like 10 people now.
10:13 einball hehe
10:15 LemLap don't tempt me Cprossu, I really don't need another timewaster atm
10:15 Cprossu we have a "working" thumper now LemLap
10:16 LemLap rofl
10:16 LemLap piston?
10:16 Cprossu tnt with piston with water with alarm system
10:16 Cprossu and the 'big not so red button of science'
10:17 Cprossu the detail we've managed is astounding considering 1 meter blocks.
10:19 Cprossu LemLap
10:20 Cprossu http://oi42.tinypic.com/2yxjasz.jpg
10:20 Cprossu ^ using a simplified texture pack for now
10:20 Cprossu but you get the idea right?
10:21 Cprossu still need to locate doors in hvl
10:21 Cprossu but hey it's damn close
10:23 LemLap yeah, as close as it can be in minecraft
10:23 Cprossu you should drop by and see the lab
10:24 LemLap hah, I wish
10:25 Cprossu I meant the virtual one =P
10:25 Cprossu 72.222.196.252:25564
10:26 LemLap heh
10:26 LemLap might do
10:26 LemLap taking a break atm, but been real busy working on stuff here
10:26 LemLap seriously, jump on the cam and check out what we are doing
10:26 Cprossu eh?
10:27 LemLap http://space.hsbne.org:52169/sample/lvafull.html <--- that
10:27 BotSteve Title: LiveApplet (Medium)
10:27 Cprossu nice
10:28 Cprossu I see fans
10:28 Cprossu hot there?
10:29 LemLap .tfw brisbane
10:29 BotSteve 75°F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Brisbane, AS!  'Quit your bitching'
10:29 LemLap .tfwc brisbane
10:29 BotSteve 23°C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Brisbane, AS!  'OPEN A FUCKING WINDOW'
10:29 Cprossu lol it's pleasant!
10:29 LemLap keep in mind we are inside a tin and brick shed
10:29 LemLap so the walls are pumping out heat
10:29 Cprossu keep in mind that I think pleasant is 115F
10:29 LemLap heh
10:30 Cprossu honestly anything below 75F is freezing =P
10:30 Cprossu .c 110F to c
10:30 BotSteve 43.3333333 degrees Celsius
10:30 Cprossu which makes me wonder
10:30 Cprossu how fucking cold it is outside
10:31 Cprossu .tfwc 85021
10:31 BotSteve 10°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Phoenix, AZ!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
10:31 Cprossu fucking cold. =P
10:33 Cprossu oooooh kay....
10:35 Cprossu well LemLap I got no clue what you're working on
10:36 Cprossu so I go to bed.
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10:43 LemPhone all three lemmings online at once :-D
10:53 eg_lappy stream is up.. www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
10:53 eg_lappy building a dist effect circuit
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10:58 DruidicRifleman hey
10:58 DruidicRifleman any one online
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11:33 CaptainNiobe oh dear, here's trouble... :P how you doing, Seroster?
11:34 Seroster Shutup =P
11:34 CaptainNiobe lol... nty... :D
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11:38 DruidicRifleman cprossu is gonna be PISSSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
11:38 CaptainNiobe ???
11:38 MadManMarkAu1 ?
11:38 MadManMarkAu1 That's a lot of exclamation marks you got there
11:38 CaptainNiobe please tell me he wasn't griefed...
11:39 DruidicRifleman UMMMM NOOOOOOO
11:39 DruidicRifleman But there might of been an accident
11:39 DruidicRifleman with TNT
11:39 DruidicRifleman NOT IN the lab
11:39 CaptainNiobe ... who used tnt? lol
11:39 DruidicRifleman UMMMM
11:39 DruidicRifleman I plead the fith
11:40 CaptainNiobe ... oh, dear... lol... how bad's the damage?
11:40 BitViper what'd you do, blow up his sign across the road ?
11:40 BitViper or just put more potholes in the road itself
11:41 Seroster So
11:42 Seroster What does captain say in the blog?
11:42 Seroster Aint got time to watch it just now
11:42 CaptainNiobe he's a little disappointed with photonic's thing, but accepting of it...
11:42 DruidicRifleman I would of killed 4 neighouring familys the lab HOWEVERIS un harmed
11:43 Seroster Even the backstabbing?
11:43 CaptainNiobe even in that... chris himself does exlain how much time youtube takes...
11:44 Seroster Thing is to photy it's a hobby
11:44 Seroster To Chris its a job
11:44 CaptainNiobe that's what chris said...
11:46 Seroster Right...
11:47 Seroster Its all bullshit
11:48 CaptainNiobe no... i think photonic had his reasons... i just don't think all of them were valid public excuses...
11:48 Seroster Heh
11:49 Seroster "My bitch said she left me unless I quit since she doesnt want hv around her baby"
11:49 CaptainNiobe that's not what happened, sero...
11:50 Seroster No shit ;P
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11:52 DruidicRifleman OK
11:52 DruidicRifleman Cprossu never needs toknow i accident;y blew up 90 blocksfo tnt in a tightly packedrtesidential neghbour hood
11:53 CaptainNiobe ... note for future: make tnt balls high in the air... :P
11:53 BitViper as long as you didnt damage the area of the wallgreen's down the street
11:54 BitViper CaptainNiobe : um, that doesnt work either, just spreads the damage further, i speak from experience LOL
11:54 CaptainNiobe oh, true, tnt loses its grip on whatever  it's attached to when it activates... forgot about that... thanks :)
11:55 BitViper yeah, i pretty much levelled nearly a kilometer square with maybe 500 blocks of tnt total
11:55 DruidicRifleman I was making a magazine for thumper
11:56 BitViper with scattered damage out further
11:56 Seroster brb
11:58 CaptainNiobe i wonder if obsidian might be used around the lab building? is it a survival or creative world?
11:59 BitViper creative
12:00 BitViper and obs doesnt [completely] block a tnt explosion, just is indestructable itself
12:00 CaptainNiobe no need to worry about creepers then lol
12:00 BitViper just politicians, same dif
12:00 CaptainNiobe HAHA! :D
12:02 DruidicRifleman yeah
12:02 DruidicRifleman See i had 8 blocks feed by sand
12:02 DruidicRifleman and then
12:02 DruidicRifleman I had 8 rows of 8
12:02 DruidicRifleman of 10
12:03 DruidicRifleman feed into the line bysand
12:03 DruidicRifleman they would push the sand into a pit
12:03 DruidicRifleman and walla
12:03 DruidicRifleman Thumper with 90 fireings
12:04 BitViper or one big one
12:04 DruidicRifleman yeah
12:05 DruidicRifleman SEEEE
12:05 DruidicRifleman The block that goes off lands in water
12:05 DruidicRifleman BUT it got stuck
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12:43 einball Hmm, would be cool to do my internship at the lab :P
12:45 einball I got kicked out of the "Melbourne" program for optoflluidical systems and I don't want to do the internship in poland.
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13:39 ajcc Hey guys
13:39 CaptainNiobe hey ajcc :)
13:39 ajcc hey CaptainNiobe
13:40 CaptainNiobe what's happenin'?
13:41 einball Hmm, superconducting magnetic loops would be a great CW filter :)
13:41 Zugan Hey guys, if you guys were interested, The FIRST Robotics Competition is holding their kickoff today, to be streamed at http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/robotics/ at about 9am EST
13:41 BotSteve Title: FIRST Robotics Competition - NASA Support
13:43 ajcc CaptainNiobe: not much, thinking about making coffee to cure my head ache :), what are you up to?
13:43 ajcc and thinking about Photonic's video, and all the nasty people on youtube :(
13:43 CaptainNiobe lol... not much here either, i'm considering a coffee to cure my thirst... :P other than that and chatting to lemming, i'm bored...
13:44 Zugan ajcc, photonicinduction on youtube?
13:44 ajcc Zugan: yep, haven't you seen the Good Bye videos?
13:44 Zugan no, all I saw was his channel was just closed one day :/
13:44 Zugan What happened?
13:44 ajcc Zugan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGfYfn-MNO0 there's a part 1 as well, but this is the Good Bye YouTube video
13:44 BotSteve Title: Photonicinduction Says Goodbye - YouTube
13:45 ajcc he got feed up with people and didn't enjoy making videos anymore
13:45 ajcc basically
13:45 Zugan that sucks
13:45 ajcc he wanted to get the time back to spend on his real life instead
13:45 CaptainNiobe personally, i think a lot of what he said was just excuses...
13:45 einball Thanks Zugan
13:46 Zugan I wish I had time to archive his video's before he closed the channel
13:46 ajcc CaptainNiobe: it is
13:46 Zugan np einball
13:46 einball 9am EST .. so in 15 minutes, right?
13:46 einball Wow, it's that early in Houston :)
13:46 CaptainNiobe i'm not rapping photon, he's a good guy... but a lot of his reasons... yeeeaaahhh...
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13:47 Zugan einball, yea especially in hawaii :p
13:47 ajcc the part 1 of the Good Bye YouTube vidoes is the one when he talks ship about Chris and The Geek Group, if you've seen the Captains Blog from today
13:47 einball Ouh, err .. thought they were in Houston :)
13:48 Zugan einball, no they are in new hampshire I believe
13:48 einball NASA is everywhere o_o
13:49 Zugan yea :p
13:49 einball Even in your basement!
13:49 einball The music in that channel sucks ... :D
13:50 ajcc hehe, I found this video today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4LbCLFUndg , I think it's kind of awesome :)
13:50 BotSteve Title: Slayer: Seasons in the Abyss (cover) - YouTube
13:50 ajcc it's a guitar cover
13:50 ajcc probably the best one ever on youtube
13:51 ajcc it's the flannel shirt that does it, on all the other videos without it, he's not as good
13:54 ajcc http://cdn.synthtopia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/bob-moog-modular-synthesizer.jpg just to show how awesome the flannel shirt is, Robert Moog and his Moog Modular :)
13:57 Zugan ajcc, i'm watching photonic's part 1 right now
14:05 Seroster Exactly what is balance, the shit that Chris desperately wants? Didnt find anyting useful on wikipedia
14:06 einball it turns a asymmetrical signal to a symmetrical signal
14:06 einball (I think that was it, he ment
14:06 Seroster How?
14:06 einball A small transformer called balun
14:07 Seroster Right
14:07 ajcc Seroster: Balun, it's takes an unbalanced signal (from the video camera) and makes it a balanced (a negative and positive part), which can run over CAT5
14:07 Seroster Right
14:08 ajcc most people bought them from Deal Extreme
14:08 Seroster A balun (play /ˈbælʌn/)
14:08 Seroster He pronounces it balance or balans
14:09 einball this is also used in ham radio applications. Often you have a dipole, that needs to be symmetric, but you feed those with coax wire.
14:09 einball so theres a small transformer which balances the line and may also be used to transform the impedance
14:09 ajcc Seroster: nope, he says Balun, he talk American, not Brittish :)
14:10 einball I just understood balancer :)
14:10 ajcc :)
14:14 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxdSCMw7448 so many games I remember! (PC games, there's a second part, in this video, with his top 17 of 2011 as well)
14:14 BotSteve Title: Top 17 Games I Want To Talk About - LGR - YouTube
14:15 ajcc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Neverhood this is just the coolest game ever made!
14:15 BotSteve Title: The Neverhood - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
14:16 einball Zugan: whow ... 09:16 and nothing happens? :P
14:18 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2GfldCbK80
14:18 BotSteve Title: The neverhood gameplay - YouTube
14:19 Zugan einball, yea.... I think it's really at 9:30, i'm not sure why they didn't start it now
14:20 einball Zugan: Accurate nasa timing ... I wonder how they got to the moon :P
14:20 Zugan lol
14:21 einball maybe they did until apollo13 and after that they made the movies in a studio ^^
14:22 Zugan :p
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14:33 einball Zugan: Could be they are waiting for the NASA TV channel
14:33 Zugan einball, probably
14:34 Zugan i'm recording this aswell
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14:37 einball They are done
14:38 electricguy LOL! XD http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396991_10150474956066903_612201902_9084238_2067626398_n.jpg
14:39 einball electricguy: Win! :) But we have really not enought of "that" :d
14:40 Zugan einball, I just looked at their schedule
14:40 Zugan its 10am - 12pm est
14:40 electricguy very true :P
14:40 Zugan so 20 more minutes
14:40 Zugan sorry
14:41 einball oh :)
14:41 einball Then I have time to dig for a plug
14:42 Seroster Kamelbulle?
14:43 Seroster And hi there Zugan, whoever you are =)
14:43 Zugan I'm new here :)
14:43 Seroster AH
14:43 Seroster Welcome
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14:43 Wannabegeek Hi
14:43 y007-nb hi
14:43 kamelbulle seroster?
14:43 Zugan Thank you Seroster
14:43 Seroster Tease CaptainNiobe for being a woman, and stay of masterofmonks, he eats babies.
14:44 Seroster You spelt kanelbulle incorrectly =)
14:44 kamelbulle I know
14:44 CaptainNiobe Seroster, shut the hell up :P
14:44 Seroster I prefer kanelbulle without camel.
14:44 kamelbulle Most people do.
14:44 Seroster Also, it just happens to be so that she is longing for her man right now, so she is extra teasable for being a woman =)
14:45 Seroster So, what's your geek specialty, Zugan?
14:45 * CaptainNiobe considers kicking sero
14:45 Seroster Oh yeah, we know you like it rough
14:45 Zugan Seroster, computers, linux, archiving the internet
14:45 einball Women and IRC? Is it the same with women and parking?
14:45 Seroster Archiving the internet?
14:45 Seroster I hope you have a really big damn harddrive xD
14:46 ajcc Seroster: archive.org
14:46 Zugan I like to archive things, like having rare files that not a lot of people have
14:46 einball Seroster: not that hard unless you consider archiving the porn :D
14:46 Wannabegeek Sounds like a oxymoron lol
14:46 Seroster And einball, Don't be a dick or I'll send the lesbians after you =)
14:46 einball Seroster: I like lesbians .. :)
14:46 CaptainNiobe lol... Zugen and kamelbulle, if i kick sero (or he kicks me), it's just in fun, we are friends... :)
14:46 Seroster RIGHT
14:46 Zugan :P
14:47 Seroster It's a century old conflict between my family and the hobos that stole food from them (and thus got deported to the penal colony island)
14:47 Seroster We hate one another ever since.
14:47 Zugan I know Jason Scott (online)
14:47 CaptainNiobe LOL!!!
14:47 Zugan he's a big contributor to archive.org
14:47 CaptainNiobe says teh weed :P
14:47 CaptainNiobe the* fail
14:48 Zugan Does chris ever come in here?
14:48 Seroster Zugan, My revenge was in the form of sending them a dead toad, as a parctical joke.
14:48 CaptainNiobe rarely...
14:48 Seroster Thing is it kinda got out of hand :/
14:48 Seroster .seen captainboden
14:48 BotSteve Seroster: I last saw CaptainBoden 496.17 hours ago at 2011-12-17 22:38:46 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 14:48:47 UTC
14:48 Seroster Yeah... Rarely =P
14:48 Zugan ah :P
14:48 Seroster And when he is here he rarely speaks.
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14:49 Seroster He got what to us ircers is a mystery, I've heard the old ones speak about it, I think they called it "a life" =P
14:49 CaptainNiobe PJ! *glomps SparkyProjects* HAI! :D
14:49 SparkyProjects :P
14:50 einball Seroster: Real what?
14:50 Seroster Oright, Zugan, Let me introduce you to SparkyProjects. He's brittish and he is old enough to have spanked Edisons granparents. Also, he can solve any problem with a piece of copper wire and a flathead screwdriver.
14:51 einball So he's the father of McGuyver?
14:51 Zugan cool :)
14:51 einball ops, Gyver
14:51 Seroster Grandfather, rather. =)
14:51 CaptainNiobe SparkyProjects is an electrician by trade, and a damned good one... i've known him about 6 years (or more), and you couldn't find a better person...
14:51 einball no, guyve .. fuck it
14:52 einball Zugan: EST = Estimated Starting time :P
14:52 Zugan lol
14:52 einball there we go
14:52 ajcc I love the band TBA
14:53 ajcc they're always on tour, all over the world
14:54 ajcc To Be Assigned, if you're not familiar with that joke.
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14:55 einball daaamn screw them! 20th season video and then??? that music again .. aah
14:55 ajcc ?
14:56 einball They placed the waiting logo again with that shitty music
14:56 Zugan few more minutes :p
15:04 Zugan einball, maybe they'll start now? :p
15:04 einball nope
15:05 einball I gotta switch PC's
15:09 Zugan einball, "Kickoff starts at 10:30 a.m. EST" <_<
15:09 Zugan they keep delaying it
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15:14 electricguy win! XD http://www.n0.se/f/f/7a292_59ea8e43e256ac4d631190331bf7cc44.jpg
15:15 Zugan :D
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15:16 einball_ doh
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15:17 einball1 .
15:17 ZUGAN einball, 10:30 is the new start time
15:18 einball noticed
15:18 ZUGAN ok, didn't know if you saw that
15:18 ajcc http://mega.tradera.com/413/136154413_1.jpg wow, what a beauty!
15:18 ajcc (radio)
15:20 einball ajcc: http://h9.abload.de/img/img_45660bsl.jpg
15:20 ajcc the little label in the right corner says: By Appointment of his majesty The King Of Sweden
15:21 ZUGAN flash froze firefox again :(
15:21 ajcc hehe, that's one funky telefunken!
15:21 * einball likes telefunken
15:21 ajcc einball: what's the tubes inside?
15:22 ajcc which are
15:22 einball Dunno. she would not let me open that beauty ^^
15:23 ajcc hehe, ok :)
15:23 einball I mean, she is cute and everything. But if you touch her radio, she will get bitchy
15:23 ajcc tube radios are better of only bein operated by their rightful owners, because they can be a bit quirky
15:24 einball a bit? :P
15:24 ajcc if they are doing well :)
15:24 ajcc if not, they can be quite nasty
15:24 ajcc screaming and cracking
15:24 einball Well, I didn't care about the tubes because she gave me those: http://h6.abload.de/img/img_4481n7w0.jpg
15:25 ajcc cookies!
15:25 einball And I was like .. OMG COOKIES!
15:25 ajcc :)
15:25 einball (Insert megusta.jpg here)
15:25 ajcc I never got the odd nose on the Me Gusta man
15:26 ajcc I thought he was a DERP guy at first
15:26 einball hehe
15:26 einball well, there are many derps: http://www.google.de/images?um=1&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;biw=1680&amp;bih=938&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=3&amp;q=derp&amp;btnG=Search+images
15:26 BotSteve Title: derp - Google Search
15:27 einball ajcc: But after she gave me the cookies, her father gave me those: http://abload.de/img/img_3717z9zx.jpg
15:27 einball And I was like OMG PELTIERELEMENTS!
15:27 einball A trip to Frankfurt I could never forget
15:28 * ajcc goes to wikipedia
15:29 einball By the way: Not only tube radios can be a little bit quirky: http://h3.abload.de/img/139qcqo.jpg
15:29 ajcc oh, solid state heat pumps, sexy!
15:29 einball they can suck too :D
15:30 ajcc Hmm, software reciver?
15:30 einball jep
15:30 ajcc can it decode hellschreiber? (that's the only cool HAM thing I know)
15:31 BitViper sdr's can decode anything theyre programmed for
15:31 einball ZUGAN: ping
15:31 ZUGAN yes
15:31 einball :)
15:31 ajcc oh, anything?, slowscan weather maps and pager messages and everything?
15:32 BitViper ajcc : yep if theyre programmed for it ...
15:32 einball It can decode almost everythyng
15:32 BitViper ajcc : once the signal is digitized the gloves are OFF
15:32 einball *everything
15:32 BitViper after that its just a matter of coding
15:33 * ajcc thinks of evil evil plans
15:33 einball ajcc: better stop that thought!
15:33 einball Will get you into trouble :D
15:33 ajcc :(
15:33 BitViper ajcc : let me join you in those thoughts :)
15:34 BitViper ive been working on my own sdr design, but dont really know enough to make the circuit board, and still learning the fpga stuff
15:34 einball yep .. let us join and get us all in trouble :P
15:34 ajcc one crazy thought I had yesterday, was to build an optical memory like they had on the first or second generation computers, where bits were recorded onto 35mm film
15:34 einball I don't even understand the tayloe detector :P
15:34 ZUGAN einball, i'll have to see if my recorder is working :p
15:34 BitViper einball : tayloe took me months to almost understand, but i think i do now
15:34 BitViper along with I/Q
15:35 BitViper I also think I have a slightly new implementation of tayloe as well
15:35 einball BitViper: well, the concept is easy .. samle and hold
15:35 ajcc the resolution for copying film is like 800 l per mm
15:35 einball *sample
15:35 einball ajcc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3keLeMwfHY :D
15:35 BotSteve Title: A Turing Machine - Overview - YouTube
15:35 BitViper einball : that part is easy yes
15:36 einball then you split/ phaseshift so oyu get the phase and amplitude information
15:36 BitViper the part of tayloe and i/q that i couldnt wrap myself around is how ya could get twice the nyquist rate worth of bandwith out of it
15:36 ajcc Alan Turing only thought of that machine in his head :), he wanted to make computer AI, but being gay in the 50's didn't do you well, even if you're a genius
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15:36 ajcc but that's the must beautiful hardware version of that machine I've seen :)
15:37 einball BitViper: well, it is just a law. do twice the maximum frequency and it is all okay. I'd not bother about that
15:37 einball ajcc: word!
15:37 ajcc 1000 FT roll! wow :D, that's quite some tape
15:37 einball jep
15:37 SparkyProjects Talking of 35mm film as a memory http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwE0Zxu9iGk
15:37 SparkyProjects Not great vid quality but ...
15:37 BotSteve Title: Daphne Oram "The Same Trade As Mozart" BBC2 - 3/8/69 - YouTube
15:38 BitViper einball : yea i figured it all out, at least i think i did
15:39 einball BitViper:  I still struggle with the optimal design of the detector. you won't find very much on the internet about that
15:39 ajcc oh, Daphne's machine is a synthezier, a rather complex one, the composers hated it :)
15:39 ajcc it's quite amazing
15:40 BitViper well I think ive come up with a way to do tayloe w/o the tayloe circuit, seems it should already have been done, but havent found any reference to it
15:40 ajcc they released some of her music some years ago: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt5g2K2YjJw
15:40 BotSteve Title: Daphne Oram - Dr. Faustus Suite - YouTube
15:40 BitViper i want to test my idea, but dont have the parts or scope to do it
15:41 BitViper speaking of scopes, TGG should get some of these bad boys for the electronics lab : http://www.tek.com/oscilloscope/mdo4000
15:41 BotSteve Title: MDO4000 | Tektronix
15:42 ajcc SparkyProjects: http://daphneoram.org/oramarchive/oramics/ :), quite a machine!
15:42 BotSteve Title: Oramics
15:43 einball audiofail on nasatv
15:44 SparkyProjects Sure is, shame it's too delicate to play now.
15:44 SparkyProjects But there's an iphone app :P
15:44 SparkyProjects Isn't there always an app ? :D
15:44 ajcc what are the NASA guys doing?
15:45 ajcc SparkyProjects: I think someone tried to copy it's concept, but it might just have been vaporware or guesswork/ideas
15:46 ajcc but you can draw waveforms in many many programs, and then draw waveforms for change in volume and pitch (can't remember all the features)
15:48 einball ZUGAN: videofails and audiofails at oyur site too?
15:48 ZUGAN yes
15:48 ZUGAN i'm watching it on the livestream (flash)
15:48 ZUGAN takes less bandwidth
15:49 ZUGAN because i'm also recording the stream too
15:49 electricguy lol! he's really horny! XD http://www.n0.se/f/n/8b5b3_1325834536.jpg
15:49 einball ZUGAN: well, i watch via url :(
15:50 ZUGAN ah
15:50 einball talks about coca cola and holds a bottle of water in his hand .. fail :D
15:50 ZUGAN :P
15:51 ZUGAN so, what mafia is he from? lol
15:51 einball oh he talks about water .. then it is okay ... but due to the fails I can't really follow him
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15:52 BitViper ohhh exciting, watching dust fall in the MDL
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15:55 ajcc BitViper: MDL?
15:55 electricguy MDH
15:55 BitViper my bad, the big garage space
15:55 ajcc oh
15:55 ajcc Main Demonstration Hall
15:56 ajcc :)
15:56 BitViper ah, i was thinking lab
15:56 MadManMarkAu MDH is the high nibble of the MD register. MDL is the low nibble.
15:56 MadManMarkAu <_<
15:56 ajcc hehe
15:56 BitViper lol @ mmm
15:56 ajcc nibble my bits, four at a time
15:56 BitViper yeah i was talking about the floor not the ceiling =P
15:56 MadManMarkAu lol
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15:57 ajcc I only get a static picture on the livestream, justin.tv doesn't like me anymore :/
15:57 einball :P
15:57 BitViper well the sound is streaming
16:00 einball I like that talk
16:01 eadthem hey bitviper  when i logged off last night in minecraft i was in the arena control room with zozo
16:01 BitViper ok
16:01 eadthem i just died in there and i have no clue how to get there to get my stuff
16:01 BitViper thats the room just outside of hvl right ?
16:01 eadthem im assuming your active in minecraft possably a mod because you wer in teamspeak
16:02 eadthem i dont know  it was on legacy server
16:02 eadthem not the one with the new TGG lab
16:02 BitViper minecrap yes, mod no
16:02 BitViper oh, hang on
16:02 BitViper no idea where the lab model is on the legacy
16:02 eadthem iirc zozo teleported me in  so im a bit worryed you cant get in any other way
16:02 BitViper im at spawn
16:03 eadthem well its the arena thing he has   retractable roof  spawning and despawning trees and etc
16:08 BitViper is that k8sn im hearing on the scanner/radio ?
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16:09 einball ZUGAN: Well, he is very serious about the things he say. You see it..he always smiles a little bit like almost everyone talking about a vision :)
16:10 einball a REAL vision
16:13 einball Like chris when talking about Avalon
16:18 eadthem i laggged as soon as i ran to the swtich
16:18 BitViper i crashed
16:19 ZUGAN You guys playing minecraft?
16:19 BitViper were anyway
16:19 ZUGAN ah
16:19 ZUGAN what mods do you have for it?
16:19 Experimentonomen BitViper, minecrap ? i thought u liked the game :/
16:20 * Experimentonomen watches docm77 live
16:20 BitViper ZUGAN : I have tmi, wecui, and zombe installed, cant use any of those on the tgg servers tho, i have em for my own server
16:20 ZUGAN ah
16:20 ZUGAN you guys should take a look at industrial craft
16:21 ZUGAN it's a really neat mod
16:21 BitViper a couple of my players keep bugging me about that, but the hardware we're on barely handles the basics
16:21 ZUGAN it's not really that intensive
16:21 ZUGAN it add's power stuff
16:22 eadthem mmm working tesla coils
16:22 ZUGAN ^
16:22 BitViper with 3 players on our server the server runs at 80% load
16:22 ZUGAN ohh
16:22 ZUGAN what are the specs?
16:22 einball and lemme guess: It's a Dual CPU quadcore server with 64gb of ram?
16:23 BitViper 32 bit dual core 2g memory iirc
16:24 ZUGAN BitViper, yea I have a p4 775 2gb ram 64-bit linux server, doesn't like minecraft server too much
16:24 BitViper at least you have 64 bit
16:25 ZUGAN mhm
16:25 einball that's because java sucks so bad in performance
16:25 ZUGAN I was surprised that it even had it
16:25 ZUGAN einball, indeed
16:25 roadran422|zZz Hi
16:25 roadran422|zZz I didn't just wake up btw.
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16:35 mashpriborintorg hiya
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16:38 mashpriborintorg SparkyProjects : FYI me = msylvain59 on youtube = the french flag (not arrived yet)
16:39 SparkyProjects so that should be 'in transit' ?
16:39 mashpriborintorg yeah
16:39 mashpriborintorg if the postal services don't lost it.. as they did for the freq gen I was waiting for
16:39 SparkyProjects Done, thanks :)
16:44 mashpriborintorg It's really sad to see how photonic was unfaithful, breaking Christmas balls in not copyrighted as far as I know
16:46 tonsofpcs hi
16:50 LemLap just completed a print on our 3D printer
16:50 LemLap elapsed time, 377 minutes 55 seconds...
16:50 BitViper at tgg ?
16:51 LemLap no
16:51 LemLap at hsbne
16:51 tonsofpcs LemLap: what type? stereolithograph?
16:51 LemLap reprap
16:52 tonsofpcs interesting
16:52 tonsofpcs print me a reprap?
16:52 BitViper muahahaha
16:53 LemLap tonsofpcs, no, but you are more than welcome to come here and print one :-P
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16:59 Seroster My apartment is a MESS xD
17:00 Electricguy mindblowing info..
17:00 mashpriborintorg what did explode ?
17:01 Seroster Lol
17:01 mashpriborintorg It becomes annoying then you can't open the door anymore to get outside
17:01 Seroster My storage room has been stuff in cardboard boxes stacked to the roof
17:02 Seroster Today I got two small dressers
17:02 Seroster One is already full with motors and hole mount component
17:02 Seroster The other got electric tools, microwave oven parts and electronics misc
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17:04 SparkyProjects Seroster, you need to get organised, i mainly use plastic sratcking drawers, plus plastic cases with compartment boxes
17:04 mashpriborintorg I try to use wooden boxes (the ones for 3 or 6 wine bottles) for storage, they are much more sturdy than cardboard and I can pick them up for free
17:04 Seroster Yeah, getting organised is what I am up to atm =P
17:05 Seroster I found it to be increasingly annoying to get to shit in the lowest boxes, so I got cheap drawers from goodwill.
17:05 BitViper the only way to get organized is to first make moar mess
17:05 Seroster I'll second that BitViper
17:05 Seroster More or less pour evrything onto the floor and put it back in order.
17:05 BitViper pretty much
17:06 SparkyProjects This sort of thing http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/0188879
17:06 SparkyProjects And this http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&amp;q=stanley+case&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;tbm=shop&amp;cid=9367975952194696075&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=YnsIT8P6FJHY8QPZ6uXsCg&amp;ved=0CGIQ8gIwBQ#
17:06 BotSteve Title: Stanley 1-92-749 Deep Pro Organizer
17:06 BotSteve Title: Storage Unit 3 Drawer | Drawer Units | | Plastic Storage from Wilkinson Plus
17:06 Seroster Looks flimsy
17:07 SparkyProjects My drawer set is similar, but more sturdy
17:07 Seroster http://norrgavel.se/wp-content/uploads/Hurts-med-sockel-s%C3%A5pad-bj%C3%B6rk.jpg < That one is more or less what I want
17:08 mashpriborintorg I have loads of such drawer boxes, once filled with screws, they get damn heavy
17:08 Seroster Yep
17:08 SparkyProjects The drawers are on wheels (not that they get moved)
17:08 Seroster Put heavy stuff in the lower drawers =)
17:09 Seroster Pft, screw wheels, I got a dolly
17:09 SparkyProjects the organisers are what i use for screws etc
17:09 mashpriborintorg ... or filled with pacemakers :p
17:09 roadran422 So...
17:09 BitViper sooo much wrong with that statement Seroster
17:09 BitViper =)
17:09 roadran422 Waht statement?
17:10 BitViper his dolly comment, or is it just me with mind on the wrong frequency :/
17:10 Seroster Yeah, you dirty dirty boy
17:11 roadran422 I don't know what comment...
17:11 * BitViper looks innocent
17:11 roadran422 I'm confused -_-
17:11 Seroster Yeah
17:11 BitViper roadran422 " <Seroster> Pft, screw wheels, I got a dolly"
17:11 Seroster Being a kid aint easy
17:11 roadran422 What the heck
17:11 roadran422 Hey, it's better then screwing dolls. xD
17:12 BitViper gotta start somewhere
17:12 roadran422 xD
17:12 injektion Lol
17:13 Andyroo *waves* Hi all, are us Brits still allowed to hang out with you guys? ;)
17:13 BitViper only when we're in a good mood
17:14 roadran422 Lol
17:14 roadran422 Are brits even recongized as people now?
17:14 SparkyProjects Hi Andy
17:14 BitViper only from the back
17:14 Andyroo Hey Sparky :)   Well now, I'm slightly relieved roadran and bit, cheers :D
17:14 * BitViper is being bad boy =(
17:15 mashpriborintorg is it me, or the stream camera in HVL got a much better picture quality ?
17:15 Andyroo Oh deary me, the website's gone to sleep or something :O   ...Wait, was today when downtime was scheduled?
17:16 mashpriborintorg * MDH, not HVL
17:16 SparkyProjects Tommorrow is scheduled downtime
17:16 BitViper looks like the lights are on now, but nobody's home yet
17:16 BitViper ohhhhh, there are ppl
17:16 SparkyProjects "We are planning schedule downtime on the Geek website on Sunday, January 8, in the middle of the afternoon ET. It should be down for roughly an hour for schedule maintenance."
17:16 BitViper invasion of nerds ?
17:16 mashpriborintorg and a shipload of copiers to take apart :p
17:17 Andyroo Ah righto, thanks Sparky
17:17 Andyroo must be my connection then :)
17:17 BitViper taking those apart sounds like fun
17:17 SparkyProjects It didn't load for me either, so it's not your connection
17:17 BitViper c4, detcord or thermite ?
17:18 mashpriborintorg I aldeady took apart 2 or 3 fairly big copiers, it's a lot of plastics and junk metal parts
17:18 SparkyProjects BitViper: they want to use the motors etc for robotics :P
17:18 BitViper ah cool
17:18 BitViper so much for the c4 and detcord
17:20 SparkyProjects An expert with detcord could probably dismantle a lot of it without damaging the food parts (detcord case removal for instance) :D
17:20 BitViper im no expert, but would have lots of fun learning *cough*
17:20 Andyroo I remember seeing an autopsy on some old copiers by aussie50, and for even some vintage kit there seems to be tons of good bits and bobs inside to play with :)
17:21 BitViper the more i see the more i wish i was closer =(
17:21 * BitViper glows green with jealousy
17:22 Electricguy WOHOW! rain simulator time! XD
17:22 SparkyProjects In the old Rank Xerox copiers there was an actual camera, i have a few lenses form the copiers. used to have mirrors too
17:22 BitViper Electricguy : i knew i smelled something funky
17:23 Electricguy LOL :P
17:23 Electricguy brb
17:23 Andyroo Ooh, optics, fun :)  iirc, different size lenses, scaled you up a4 to a3 etc?
17:24 mashpriborintorg http://youtu.be/6EnF1NG1tNQ preffy fun copier disassembly vid
17:24 BotSteve Title: Office Deconstruction - YouTube
17:24 SparkyProjects Not sure, My dad used to work at a warehouse where they sent the copiers for disposal, after they removed the camera of course.
17:24 SparkyProjects His job was to remove certain parts for the company and scrap the rest, this was many years ago
17:25 mashpriborintorg and here a bigger copier teardown http://youtu.be/kAGN3PpMUNM
17:25 BotSteve Title: Copy Machine Destruction - YouTube
17:25 BitViper chris should do vids like this LOL
17:25 tonsofpcs camera?
17:26 mashpriborintorg newer machines are annoying, just a ccd and laser printer like parts
17:26 SparkyProjects The lense i have is basically 3 lenses, fixed focus, don't  even know if the lense could move for focusiing
17:28 Andyroo I looked after the copiers and laser printers at my old job (unemployed now) - Bunch of old steam powered Lexmarks that had clocked up far too many page impressions. The fuser modules were useful for making pretty folded patterns in your prints, but not much else :P
17:29 mashpriborintorg they did turn into paper shredders :p
17:29 Andyroo On a good day you could fan out the concertinas :D
17:29 SparkyProjects btw, the xerox copier had a curved glass top for the document, we has some of those glasses too
17:29 tonsofpcs ok, silly question:  What is the use of a hex bit with a rounded (ball-like) end?
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17:30 JA12 tonsofpcs: you can turn it in an angle
17:30 tonsofpcs Andyroo: I have an HP LJ5si at work that's starting to do that folded pattern trick
17:30 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs: it helps getting screws out at an angle, but they are weaker than a standard tool, the ball can break off
17:30 Andyroo tonsofpcs, makes for a nice desk ornament, what other value it has I don't know ;)
17:31 SparkyProjects think 'balljoint drive'
17:31 tonsofpcs like, I have a whole screwdriver set at work that has rounded hex tips and the front half of the ball is a smooth round...
17:31 tonsofpcs I don''t have many screws that have a deep enough inset for the hex to actually contact enough for torsion.
17:32 SparkyProjects Try it sometime, put the tool in a bolt and lean it at an angle
17:32 tonsofpcs (mind you, hex heads aren't very common in the US
17:32 SparkyProjects It's only the ball tip that has to make contact
17:32 BitViper no we're more square here LOL
17:32 Andyroo metricated eh? :P
17:32 tonsofpcs but the back end of the ball 'tip' is where the hex is, the front end is smooth round
17:33 tonsofpcs so you're only going to grab with 3 sides at most, and not full sides...
17:33 SparkyProjects There should be 6 points on the ball
17:34 mashpriborintorg must be for very special screws, aircraft screws maybe ?
17:35 mashpriborintorg or it's just a machining failure, if they where made in China
17:35 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: right, but when you tilt it, half of them won't be inside the head
17:36 mashpriborintorg so they have a round tip, not a complete spherical part at the tip ?
17:36 SparkyProjects All i can suggest is that you try it, you'll see how it works
17:36 SparkyProjects I would suggest loosening the screw with the angled end first, then spin it out with the ball
17:36 Andyroo Oho, the postie's been today, and he's brought me my new e-cig! Time to vape :D
17:36 einball non metric fasteners truly suck :P
17:37 mashpriborintorg +1 :p
17:37 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: (1) I have screwdrivers with these tips  (2) once the angle end is in and turning, why not just keep turning?
17:37 SparkyProjects http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/69/Allen_wrench_with_ball_end_1.jpg
17:38 tonsofpcs yea, the screwdriver ones I have don't have the 'edge' flowing all the way to the tip like that
17:38 SparkyProjects As i said above, the ball end is not as strong as a regular end, i have broke a ball end off before
17:38 BitViper what on earth is that squawking on the stream ?
17:38 tonsofpcs BitViper: probably the scanner
17:38 Andyroo oh dear... short people on the ggr... Is it just me or is Randy Newman a parody of himself?
17:38 tonsofpcs einball: robertson bits.
17:39 BitViper tonsofpcs : if thats the case someone needs to oil it, lots
17:39 SparkyProjects I don't listen to ggr, Radio 2 for me :P
17:39 tonsofpcs BitViper: huh?
17:40 tonsofpcs Anyway, I have a projector to dissect, analyze, and possibly repair.  Anyone want to help?
17:40 Andyroo good choice :D  Just thought I'd try to catch some live stuff rather than just the music stream. Mitchell was doing the news a little while ago
17:40 BitViper tonsofpcs : oh that scanner, i was thinking copier scanner. no it doesnt sound like its from the radio, but i guess it could be
17:40 tonsofpcs *logs in*
17:40 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs: and BitViper there's a tone that is transmitted for some reason, someone at tgg was going to try and set the scanner to ignore that freq
17:40 tonsofpcs I hear the scanner and the AM leaking inn
17:41 BitViper SparkyProjects : it sounds like a mad parakeet or something
17:41 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects: those are pager tones.  They're probably on 90% of the RF channels
17:41 tonsofpcs egrsteve|lurking: hey, the AM is leaking in hard again... get tht stuff balanced and throw in a transformer if you need to :)
17:41 Andyroo Since egrsteve posted about doing the ham radio videos... I've been on the UK amateur radio society website, discovered there's a local group that meets up in my old school, just down the road! Might pop in to see what the fuss is about
17:42 tonsofpcs ham radio videos?
17:42 tonsofpcs is he going to retune that acrodyne?
17:42 * SparkyProjects is a ham :P
17:42 Andyroo Details here http://thegeekgroup.org/forums/topic/new-ham-video-series/
17:42 BotSteve Title: Topic: New Ham video series | The Geek Group
17:42 * tonsofpcs is a professional radio operator
17:42 * tonsofpcs needs to get his ham ticket
17:42 Andyroo thankyou +BotSteve :)
17:43 tonsofpcs Andyroo: the + isn't part of his name.  You can proably also just type "bot<tab>" to get his name to show up.
17:43 SparkyProjects If you want BotSteve to reply, don't use the +
17:43 Andyroo meh, I'm an IRC neophyte, but I'll remember that one, thankyou :)
17:43 LittleGreenFlame joined #thegeekgroup
17:43 LittleGreenFlame Hello!
17:43 wannabe1987 hi LittleGreenFlame
17:43 LittleGreenFlame Hello Wannabe!
17:43 SparkyProjects hi BotSteve
17:43 BotSteve Salutations SparkyProjects
17:44 BitViper g'moanin wannabe1987
17:44 ajcc hi BotSteve
17:44 BotSteve Greetings ajcc!
17:44 LittleGreenFlame Hello BotSteve
17:44 BotSteve Salutations LittleGreenFlame
17:44 Andyroo hi BotStave!
17:44 Andyroo .....
17:44 LittleGreenFlame ......
17:44 tonsofpcs those tonees, BitViper ?
17:44 LittleGreenFlame Awkward >.>
17:44 wannabe1987 hi BitViper
17:44 tonsofpcs hi wannabe1987
17:44 wannabe1987 hi tonsofpcs
17:44 SparkyProjects the ! stopped the response this time
17:45 LittleGreenFlame And you said stave
17:45 Andyroo The typo wouldn't have helped either :P
17:45 LittleGreenFlame Not steve
17:45 Rahlon joined #thegeekgroup
17:45 tonsofpcs LittleGreenFlame: awkward would be entering and having "Large Water Hose" respond, no?
17:45 * Andyroo clears his throat
17:45 Andyroo Hi botsteve
17:45 wannabe1987 lol
17:45 BotSteve Hello Andyroo!
17:45 LittleGreenFlame It hates you [=
17:45 * Andyroo is filled with happiness!
17:45 LittleGreenFlame Oh
17:45 ajcc hi b<tab>
17:45 LittleGreenFlame Nvm
17:45 LittleGreenFlame BotSteve: >.<
17:45 LittleGreenFlame Oh cool!
17:46 LittleGreenFlame Anyway
17:46 LittleGreenFlame I'm here for a reason
17:46 BitViper not the morse code style tones tonsofpcs : what i was hearing sounded like a mad parakeet or two in a pet store
17:46 LittleGreenFlame Anyone know where Paul put of the information of the Space project?
17:46 tonsofpcs BitViper: is it low level, in the background?
17:46 tonsofpcs LittleGreenFlame: is it on the forums? (note: I avoid the forums so I have no clue)
17:46 BitViper no, very loud, much louder than the scanner voices
17:47 tonsofpcs the mic keying?
17:47 LittleGreenFlame It is, but I have no idea where
17:47 BitViper no, no rf static with it
17:47 LittleGreenFlame I guess I should try harder than I did
17:47 tonsofpcs mic keying doesn't have "RF static" with it...
17:47 tonsofpcs also, I have no clue what you're taking about if it isn't the pager tones.
17:47 tonsofpcs (or the mic keying)
17:48 BitViper ok well if i had a mike that sounded like this when it keyed it'd get tossed quickly
17:48 Seroster Back to cleaning
17:48 BitViper its no radio related sound that ive ever herad
17:48 BitViper *heard
17:48 einball yummy .. cucumber
17:48 BitViper oh shit, i think i just figured out where the noise was coming from
17:48 tonsofpcs BitViper: often in paging-type systems, the keying of the mic mutes a speaker -- at the point of keying, there's a burst of feedback (and the keying isn't very clean so there's also some high frequency energy)
17:48 tonsofpcs got a parakeet and forgot about it?
17:48 LittleGreenFlame Reason I'm asking, is I'm planning on doing the same this as a year long project for 2012
17:49 LittleGreenFlame thing*
17:49 BitViper tonsofpcs : no, its not those sort of tones, yep i just figured it out ... its audio from Cprossu on teamspeak x_x
17:49 BitViper not on the stream
17:49 LittleGreenFlame As a side note, I took apart a printer today [= YAY
17:49 LittleGreenFlame TGG has a teamspeak?
17:49 LittleGreenFlame O=
17:49 SparkyProjects LittleGreenFlame: http://thegeekgroup.org/forums/topic/geek-space-program/
17:49 BotSteve Title: Topic: Geek Space Program | The Geek Group
17:49 Sgt_Lemming home now
17:49 LittleGreenFlame YES
17:49 LittleGreenFlame Thank you!
17:49 mashpriborintorg make / model LittleGreenFlame
17:50 tonsofpcs Cprossu: stop playing MC!
17:50 Rahlon did photon post a reply to chris' response?
17:50 tonsofpcs also, should I stream my projector tear-apart/fix attempt?
17:50 tonsofpcs start in T-10
17:50 tonsofpcs m
17:50 mashpriborintorg yeah tonsofpcs
17:50 Electricguy a clean EG returns! XD
17:50 BitViper aparently Cprossu has some sort of bird which was making the noise and activating his mic
17:50 LittleGreenFlame Whas the IP to this teamspeak?
17:50 LittleGreenFlame Is it for TGG?
17:50 ajcc tonsofpcs: do it!
17:51 BitViper its gamerxreviews teamspeak
17:51 Andyroo *Do not submerge the electric, even partially* :O
17:51 LittleGreenFlame Oh
17:51 Cprossu tonsofpcs I haven't logged in since last night
17:51 wannabe1987 hi Electricguy
17:51 Cprossu if that makes any difference
17:51 tonsofpcs k
17:51 LittleGreenFlame We need a teamspeak server [=
17:51 tonsofpcs setting up lighting and table
17:51 Cprossu we have one lol
17:51 Electricguy hi hi wannabe1987 :) how are you doing?
17:51 LittleGreenFlame Oh
17:51 Cprossu so good morning everyone what's up.
17:51 Electronics HVL hasn't exploded yet
17:51 BitViper Cprossu : we havent decided yet
17:52 wannabe1987 good.  woke up at 12:30 pm :D
17:52 Cprossu nice sleep!
17:52 Electricguy heheh  ok :D
17:52 tonsofpcs also, what software can I use on my eeepc to stream video?
17:52 Cprossu what os?
17:52 Electricguy Ustream
17:52 einball tonsofpcs: vlc will do fine
17:52 wannabe1987 i went to bed at like...3:30, 4amish.  thanks to the new CB
17:52 Cprossu ^ if linux vlc will do fine
17:52 ajcc can't you stream via flash on one of those webby things?
17:52 Cprossu that's a dumb thing to do ajcc
17:53 Cprossu it works shittily
17:53 tonsofpcs einball: got a reflector I can bounce it off of?
17:53 ajcc oh
17:53 Andyroo I still find it slightly cool that It's early evening here, and morning/early afternoon for you stateside folks. I think it's a shame that gets taken for granted too often. (Timezones, duh!)
17:53 ajcc didn't know
17:53 einball tonsofpcs: justin.tv
17:53 einball or .. adobe media encoder
17:53 einball that works with justin aswell
17:53 Cprossu einball hence why I asked tonsofpcs what OS
17:53 Electricguy NOM TIME! :D brb!
17:53 einball Cprossu: Adobe media encoder is written in adobe air, isn't it?
17:54 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I've got vlc, not sure if it playss nice with the webcam, I'll try
17:54 tonsofpcs (linux, eepc900a, no disk space)
17:54 einball Electricguy: nom in front of your pc like normal ppl do :P
17:54 SparkyProjects einball: Justin can be used without an encoder, or can be used with adobe encoder
17:54 SparkyProjects But you can't use an encoder without a stream channel like justin
17:54 einball tonsofpcs: It won't work well, because of encoding.
17:55 LittleGreenFlame Someone claims they sent weather balloons to the lab, did they arrive?  I didn't see them in a captains blog >.<
17:55 tonsofpcs einball: if vlc will work with the webcam, I can get encoding configured properly.  I just need a reflector service that can accept a stream from vlc
17:55 mashpriborintorg I already took apart weather ballon probes
17:55 einball tonsofpcs: afaik justin wil accept vlc .. otherwise use adobe encoder. that works very well with justin
17:56 LittleGreenFlame whois
17:56 LittleGreenFlame Ewps
17:56 LittleGreenFlame >.>
17:56 mashpriborintorg little radio emitter, powered with 9V battery, inside a styrofoam box
17:56 mashpriborintorg nothing fancy
17:56 tonsofpcs einball: i can't get adobe media encoder installed on here
17:56 tonsofpcs actually... maybe i can, 110 MB free....
17:56 einball Well, that sucks :(
17:57 * BitViper sneezes violently, scattering electronic bits all over the channel
17:57 tonsofpcs brb, reboot to make cam work
17:57 SparkyProjects tonsofpcs: if you go to Justin, it's a 3 step process, as long as you have a camera input, no extra software is needed
17:57 mashpriborintorg I've already tried bog.tv, iirc the low def encoder is browser based
17:58 mashpriborintorg *blog.tv
17:59 wannabe1987 .seen zugan
17:59 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw ZUGAN 1.57 hours ago at 2012-01-07 16:25:20 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 17:59:20 UTC
17:59 Cprossu tonsofpcs use fmecmd once you make your profile, if you need help kicking it on let me know and I'll help out
18:00 Nam30 you got the link to chris responding to photon
18:00 * wannabe1987 sweeps up BitViper's bits, hanging them back to him
18:00 Cprossu never edit the xml file manually without using the gui util or the profile will fail verification (it's picky as fuck)
18:01 SparkyProjects Nam30: http://www.youtube.com/user/Thisisphoton
18:01 BotSteve Title: Thisisphoton's Channel - YouTube
18:01 mashpriborintorg http://youtu.be/w-ANs3jmYKw starts at minute 33
18:01 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 1-6-12 Helicopter Fun and Photonicinduction - YouTube
18:02 Andyroo Oh dear, is that the helicopter ride for the ipad reward all used up now? :P
18:02 tonsofpcs screw it, going to use the windows htpc to stream
18:02 tonsofpcs i just gotta set it up before i tear down the proj
18:05 kamelbulle andyroo. dont think so
18:06 Andyroo Aye, I didn't think so myself. :)
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18:07 wannabe1987 toasty!
18:07 Andyroo Toasty! Hi :)
18:08 Toastdude Hi!
18:08 wannabe1987 :D
18:08 wannabe1987 or should i say, Daniel?
18:08 wannabe1987 :P
18:08 Toastdude Who? :P
18:08 wannabe1987 *shifty eyes*  who knows....
18:10 Electricguy ok, back :P
18:10 Electricguy lol einball
18:10 tonsofpcs is there some sort of voice chat server that I can hop on to with the netbook so that people can talk to me?
18:10 wannabe1987 .c 1440626/1324
18:10 BotSteve 1 088.0861
18:11 wannabe1987 .c 1324/1440626
18:11 BotSteve 0.000919044915
18:11 wannabe1987 lol
18:11 Andyroo .c 42/0
18:11 * tonsofpcs joins #tgg:dissection so that his projector dissection discussion isn't too ahrd to read back through
18:11 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
18:12 Andyroo :(
18:12 tonsofpcs Cprossu: huh?
18:13 tonsofpcs Cprossu: einball ajcc mashpriborintorg  I'm going to be discussing the projector dissection in #tgg:dissection
18:18 wannabe1987 you killed chat!
18:20 tonsofpcs if only my webcam were working....
18:20 wannabe1987 why isn't it working?
18:20 Andyroo Woohoo, I got the geek group blog sorted out. Just composing a post at the moment... Discovering brevity is something I don't quite have... :)
18:20 tonsofpcs grrr
18:21 Toastdude Andyroo: ∞
18:21 Andyroo Your 8 fell over, toastdude :(
18:21 wannabe1987 lol
18:21 Toastdude Nope, answer to your .c 42/0
18:22 Andyroo Tell botsteve that :D
18:22 Toastdude I thought I had the symbol in my character list, but didn't... So I had to look it up
18:22 Andyroo alt + numbers??
18:22 Toastdude BotSteve: ∞
18:23 tonsofpcs ∞ is infinity.
18:23 Toastdude Nope, in X-Chat 2 there's a character chart
18:23 Toastdude tonsofpcs: I know that
18:23 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC8lt--rEEo
18:23 BotSteve Title: We Code Hard.mp4 - YouTube
18:24 Andyroo Can we trick the poor little bot into an endless loop? :O
18:24 Andyroo Botsteve, this statement is false!
18:24 SparkyProjects Only if you want to kill him and gainf the wrath of BatSteve :P
18:25 wannabe1987 please dont' kill him....he was dead for a couple days...i enjoy having him around
18:25 Andyroo He's good company indeed :)
18:25 Andyroo .c 2+2
18:25 BotSteve 4
18:25 Andyroo .c 4+4
18:25 BotSteve 8
18:26 Andyroo .c 8+8
18:26 BotSteve 16
18:26 ajcc .c 69!
18:26 BotSteve 1.71122452 × 10^(98)
18:26 ajcc .c 70!
18:26 BotSteve 1.19785717 × 10^(100)
18:26 Andyroo .c sqrt -1
18:26 BotSteve i
18:26 ajcc :D
18:26 Andyroo Aye!
18:26 ajcc i is an imaginary number, that makes engineers happy, although they call it j
18:27 Andyroo I just think Mandelbrots are pretty cool looking, no knowledge past that at this point :)
18:28 iSasha joined #thegeekgroup
18:29 iSasha You'll never guess why I was offline for the past 10 min...
18:29 Andyroo cougar attack?
18:30 iSasha Nope
18:30 Andyroo You were pursuing the monks through a tunnel?
18:30 iSasha Wha??? No...
18:30 Andyroo I'm out of guesses :(
18:31 Toastdude You died for 10 minutes?????
18:31 tonsofpcs I guess I'm going to the T2i for a webcam...
18:32 wannabe1987 you were....screwing smeone/something?
18:32 Toastdude Your router started to sprout legs and ran away from you??
18:32 Cprossu rofl a t2i webcam?
18:33 iSasha Nope. My little brother got into an ALL CAPS RAGE and ripped out all of the cables from the ISDN thingy, modem, router and wifi router...
18:33 Cprossu tonsofpcs I think that _could possibly_ be a slight amount of overkill?
18:33 Cprossu heh heh heh
18:33 wannabe1987 ...
18:34 Andyroo Oh dear. Not good when physical violence is used on the network :S
18:34 Andyroo What sparked his roaring rampage?
18:34 einball http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-CSem5FId0H8/TrWRMo_2DNI/AAAAAAAAAdM/zu5DoKVH3rg/s1600/DSC04942.JPG
18:34 einball wow :o
18:34 iSasha Oh. These days, it can get very tough to tell
18:34 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it's either that or the saticon.
18:35 ZUGAN Does anyone know what license TheGeekGroup / PhysicsDuck is under?
18:35 iSasha Creative Commons
18:35 ZUGAN Ok, cool'
18:35 Cprossu lol well I used old panasonic vhs camcorders so I am one to talk
18:35 ZUGAN i'm going to start archiving :)
18:36 Cprossu cool, nab the main channel too lol
18:36 iSasha Same, started this morning. At 1 gb/episode...
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18:36 Cprossu as videos sometimes get corrupted because of youtube fuckery
18:36 ZUGAN iSasha, you grabbing from youtube?
18:36 Cprossu it's sometimes difficult to find the source video of something done in 2006
18:36 Cprossu after it gets youtubefuckified
18:37 iSasha Cprossu, I see that you don't exactly like youtube?
18:37 Andyroo The tetris theme video stands out in my mind.
18:37 kamelbulle There are some old videos on vimeo
18:37 Cprossu iSasha it used to be okay
18:37 mashpriborintorg I use keedvid.com to grab videos, togegher with any download manager software it works well
18:37 Cprossu but I'd never call it good
18:37 Cprossu google took everything over and made changes no one wanted, but lived with
18:37 mashpriborintorg *keepvid.com
18:37 ZUGAN I just use youtube downloader from altervista
18:38 ZUGAN grabs the direct flv
18:38 iSasha ^same (mashpriborintorg)
18:38 Cprossu and just after the anal pain from the ass raping they did to the format sort of was going away
18:38 tonsofpcs bah, where is the usb capture dohickey?!?!
18:38 Cprossu they did it again
18:38 MoxieMike ant video downloader
18:38 Andyroo I do agree with photonicinduction in that the new layout is equal parts frustration and distress. But I'll get over it ;)
18:38 Cprossu I just the same bastards in charge of the new layout weren't ask to concentrate their efforts to fuck over gmail too
18:39 iSasha Hey, the Gmail remake is pretty good
18:39 Cprossu *just wish
18:39 Cprossu I hate it
18:39 Electronics I don't like it...
18:39 Cprossu it loads slow, is a mess,
18:39 Cprossu isn't condensed at all
18:39 Cprossu feels all windows 7/vista dumbed down to me
18:40 Cprossu and they are trying to cram it down my throat with a jackhammer
18:40 iSasha I'm guessing you don't like windows either...
18:40 Cprossu this is why I never use yahoo mail anymore
18:40 Andyroo Remember when web pages were only kilobytes in size? I do. :(
18:40 Cprossu I stopped using yahoo mail when they fucked it over and made it 'easier
18:40 Cprossu '
18:40 BitViper Andyroo : I remember when they were measured in bytes
18:40 mashpriborintorg I would like to know why, when I log onto gmail, it unlogs me from youtube, without any notification or choice given
18:41 Electronics I'm slowly moving from my yahoo mail to gmail...
18:41 Andyroo Ah, it were all trees back then, BitViper :D
18:41 Cprossu mashpriborintorg I hate the account integration thing
18:41 Cprossu my main email isn't the account I use for youtube
18:41 Cprossu log in one it fucks the other up
18:41 iSasha mashpriborintorg: because you use different accounts
18:41 Andyroo True, this crossed over social interaction online mixology is truly anathema :(
18:41 mashpriborintorg it does even f... up my mobile phone, with the android market
18:41 wannabe1987 time to make food and then get dressed and go to the bank and home and then work....
18:42 mashpriborintorg IT'S MY RIGHT TO USE DIFFERENT ACCOUNTS :p
18:42 iSasha Actually, I'm pretty sure that the TOS say otherwise ;)
18:42 Andyroo Oh, since Chris mentioned minidiscs in the recent Captain's Blogs... http://www.minidisc.org/very_faq.html   ...I want some :)
18:42 BotSteve Title: Minidisc FAQ: Beginner Topics
18:43 iSasha Anyone else love to listen to Afam Savage's talks?
18:44 mashpriborintorg my youtube account was created years before my gmail accounts
18:44 Toastdude Adam?
18:44 mashpriborintorg and I'm not gonna change it
18:44 wannabe1987 sme
18:44 wannabe1987 same*
18:45 iSasha Toastdude: yes :P
18:45 Toastdude Okay. :P
18:45 SparkyProjects iSasha, been watching a lot of Mythbusters vids lately, includinghis talks, they are great :)
18:45 SparkyProjects He should be a tgg member :D
18:45 Cprossu .c 1.9m to ft
18:45 BotSteve 6.2335958 feet
18:45 Toastdude I've only seen a few, but I enjoyed then
18:46 Toastdude He should..
18:46 tonsofpcs bbaib, gonna go buy a new webcam
18:46 tonsofpcs tired of fighting this
18:46 iSasha SparkyProjects: I agree! BTW, random bit of trivia: they have over a week worth of mythbusters episodes (if played continuously)
18:46 wannabe1987 ok
18:46 wannabe1987 bye tons
18:46 mashpriborintorg is it the tv show with a brunette and an asian girl, going into "haunted" houses and so on ?
18:47 Toastdude That's pretty awesome...
18:47 iSasha mashpriborintorg uuum... NO
18:47 Toastdude Not ghostbusters. :P
18:47 mashpriborintorg no it's an other thing on the same time
18:47 Toastdude http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
18:47 BotSteve Title: MythBusters - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:48 mashpriborintorg they don't search for ghosts actually, they search for proof there are no ghosts but trivial things
18:48 wannabe1987 nope
18:48 wannabe1987 mythbusters blows shit up
18:49 Andyroo And they dispel stupid :)
18:49 mashpriborintorg so what I saw must be paranormal files, info or intox
18:50 mashpriborintorg and mythbusters in not on tv here :(
18:51 Sgt_Lemming that 6 hour 3d print I was talking about earlier
18:51 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/HackerspaceStuff#
18:51 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming . - Hackerspace S...
18:51 Sgt_Lemming that's it there
18:52 mashpriborintorg is that a rocket nozzle :)
18:52 wannabe1987 :whisper: what is it?
18:54 Sgt_Lemming err, seriously guys, it's installed in one of the pics there
18:54 Sgt_Lemming not that hard to see :-P
18:55 mashpriborintorg it's a dust coupler... terribly hi-tech thing :p
18:55 * Sgt_Lemming nods
18:57 Andyroo Sgt_Lemming: Nice! Now how does that work then?
18:57 Sgt_Lemming how does what work?
18:59 Toastdude BotSteve: Should I make a kelvin water dropper?
18:59 BotSteve Definitely
18:59 Toastdude :D
19:00 Sgt_Lemming how does the 3d printer work, or how does what we printed work Andyroo?
19:02 Andyroo Both, I guess, it's neat and I have no idea how you "printed" that :)
19:04 tonsofpcs nevermind, i got a webcam working
19:05 BatSteve And we're back.
19:05 wannabe1987 bats!
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19:05 wannabe1987 BatSteve: lee thought it was you flying the helicopter yesterday :P
19:05 BatSteve I don't know how to fly a helicopter, sadly.
19:05 BatSteve I'd love to learn though.
19:05 wannabe1987 that was my response
19:05 tonsofpcs justin.tv/tonsofpcs I guess
19:06 tonsofpcs BatSteve: it's just like flying a plane.  Takeoffs take practice, landings are easy :)
19:06 * tonsofpcs has a webcam up and is about to do projector hackery
19:06 Seroster SparkyProjects,
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19:07 SparkyProjects ?
19:07 Seroster I have a bunch of small gauge copper pipe that is anything but straight. How do I straighten it out properly?
19:07 Seroster It is pretty damn old too, should I heat it?
19:07 Seroster And if yes, how hot?
19:07 SparkyProjects What length ?
19:08 Seroster 1.5m each, two lenghts
19:08 Seroster Tube wall diameter 1mm, total diameter about 3mm
19:09 Seroster It used to handle high pressure *oil stuff* to a pressure gauge
19:09 Seroster I don't know what it is, but it smells like thinner, and is an organic solvent for sure
19:09 Seroster Could be an alcohol or more likely turpentine
19:09 SparkyProjects Personally i would place the pipe on a firm (wood) surface, then get a sheet of wood (ply) and roll it while putting weight on it
19:09 SparkyProjects You won't get it perfect, but .....
19:10 SparkyProjects what diameter approx ?
19:10 Seroster 3mm total
19:11 Seroster Wont it be more malluable if I heat it before rolling it?
19:12 SparkyProjects Sounds like a capilliary, as you said above, one end to a pressure guage, other end fo a 'bulb' and filled with an alcohol based liquid (prevents freezing)
19:13 SparkyProjects If you have enough het, maybe, but as soon as you stop heating one area to heat another, it will cool quickly
19:13 SparkyProjects Try rolling first, if that  don't work, then try heating till it starts to discolour
19:16 mashpriborintorg http://www.justin.tv/tonsofpcs/
19:16 BotSteve Title: tonsofpcs on Justin.tv
19:17 tonsofpcs it's up :D
19:17 tonsofpcs join #tgg:dissection if you want to talk to me
19:17 wannabe1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2012/01/panko-crusted-lime-arizona-dream.html  new blog post!
19:17 BotSteve Title: Phood in your face: Panko-crusted lime Arizona Dream Chicken and Forward! Hashbrowns
19:19 Andyroo Time for dinner :)  Bye y'all!
19:19 wannabe1987 lol bye
19:20 Electricguy :D i just bought my first digital camera :D
19:20 Electricguy a Canon G6
19:20 wannabe-afk welcome to the 90s
19:21 wannabe-afk or 00s
19:21 wannabe-afk :P
19:21 Electricguy :P
19:21 SparkyProjects 'The Noughties' :P
19:21 einball Electricguy: wrong decision
19:21 Electricguy 45 bucks for it. mint condition, with charger, USB cable and memory card
19:21 mashpriborintorg I have one Electricguy, great little camera, but macro mode is a little limited
19:21 einball Electricguy: I'd buy a ton of icecream instead!
19:21 Electricguy STFU einball :P
19:22 mashpriborintorg the battery has an incredible autonomy
19:22 Electricguy mashpriborintorg, mkay, yeah i saw that on some review
19:22 einball okay ... :P
19:22 Electricguy it's supposed to give very good pictures.
19:22 Electricguy 7.1Mpixel
19:22 mashpriborintorg most pictures on my flickr channel are made with a G6
19:23 Electricguy nic
19:23 Electricguy e
19:23 Electricguy link? :P
19:23 mashpriborintorg http://www.flickr.com/photos/64683169@N00/
19:23 BotSteve Title: Flickr: mashpriborintorg's Photostream
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19:23 Electricguy this one got some polarization filter.... dunno what that does though XD http://forumbilder.se/images/b7201282320PM0c63.jpg
19:24 Electricguy those pics are nice and sharp
19:24 mashpriborintorg some of the stuff down there is... special, not the stuff you gat at you local retailer
19:24 Electricguy lol
19:24 wannabe-afk .tfw tgg
19:24 BotSteve 41°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'At least you aren't living in a small town in Alaska'
19:24 mashpriborintorg custom white balance, tripod, daylight only
19:24 Electricguy nice :P
19:25 Photon939 nice pics mashpriborintorg
19:25 Electricguy i'm a camera noob, so, what does the polarization filter do?
19:25 mashpriborintorg and a little adjustment of contrast and colours
19:25 mashpriborintorg it's again reflections mainlt
19:25 Photon939 I should get some filters for my new camera
19:25 mashpriborintorg mainly
19:26 mashpriborintorg if you want to shoot through a window with no reflection
19:26 Electricguy oh!
19:26 Electricguy that's nifty
19:26 Electricguy these cameras have been used as stationary cameras for some custom lab photo rig. so they are in VERY good condition :P
19:27 Electricguy i really like the little LCD that you can fold out
19:27 Electricguy my boss got a Canon G5 at work. robust little camera
19:27 mashpriborintorg Sadly I drop mine one time, the zoom button is not returning itself in middle position anymore
19:28 mashpriborintorg and taking it apart is a nightmare
19:28 Photon939 mashpriborintorg: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1181169/P1000032.jpg
19:28 Electricguy oww, ouch
19:28 Electricguy yeah cameras are real bitches to crack open
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19:29 mashpriborintorg vintage sony digicams are quite easy tho
19:29 Seroster ARRR
19:29 Electricguy oh, my bad! the cameras have been used in photo machines for pass photos. so yeh, still stationary cameras
19:29 tonsofpcs anyone else watching?
19:29 wannabe-afk hi Photon939
19:30 tonsofpcs cameras? we're working on a projector here ;)
19:30 Electricguy i can toss up the stream
19:30 wannabe-afk havne't seen you in a while....
19:30 Photon939 hey wannabe-afk
19:30 Electricguy tonsofpcs, I have bought a camera :P a Canon G6
19:30 Electricguy mashpriborintorg, can the G6 do video too?
19:30 Electricguy not important, but would be handy
19:31 mashpriborintorg the video mode is very bad, 30 sec clips
19:31 Electricguy lol okey
19:31 Electricguy nvm then :)
19:31 Electricguy tonsofpcs, am i missing something? :P i can only see the weathercam on the stream
19:32 wannabe-afk wrong stream
19:32 mashpriborintorg it happens here http://www.justin.tv/tonsofpcs
19:32 BotSteve Title: tonsofpcs on Justin.tv
19:32 mashpriborintorg not onto the lab's roof :p
19:32 wannabe-afk tons is in ny, not mi
19:33 Electricguy great, i just managed to clear the chat window! -,-
19:33 Electricguy link again :P
19:33 mashpriborintorg http://www.justin.tv/tonsofpcs next time will not be free
19:33 BotSteve Title: tonsofpcs on Justin.tv
19:33 Electricguy thx
19:33 wannabe-afk bye
19:34 mashpriborintorg and join TGG:DISSECTION for comments
19:35 einball Anthony Rother \o/
19:35 Electricguy I IZ SEEING YOO!! XD
19:36 einball huh?
19:36 einball Electricguy: You'd be much more chilled, if you bought icecream instead of a camera ;)
19:37 Electricguy but a camera lasts longer and is more fun than icecram XD
19:38 einball hmm, depends on your hunger for icecream :)
19:38 einball And what do you do if the camera gets stolen?
19:39 Electricguy i'll get sad :P
19:40 Electricguy but what if all the ICE CREAM gets stolen??! O_O
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19:40 einball No way! Nobody want to steal icecream!
19:40 Monkeh|Lap Electricguy: Poison the next batch, obviously.
19:40 Electricguy nobody wants to steal a half old compact camera :P
19:40 einball But you could tempt some girls with the icecream
19:40 Superphosphate_ Hello
19:41 Toastdude Hey Superphosphate_
19:41 Electricguy ok, so i'm going to sit there with a heap of poison ice cream just in case it gets stolen? XD
19:41 Superphosphate_ I like icecream. Where can I steal some from
19:41 Monkeh|Lap Damn right.
19:41 Superphosphate_ Hi Toastdude!!
19:41 Toastdude Freezer!
19:41 Electricguy Monkeh|Lap, sounds like a good idea :D
19:41 einball damn, Iam just about to go and GET THAT DAMN ICECREAM!!!!!
19:42 Electricguy howdy Superphosphate_
19:42 Superphosphate_ Hi Electricguy
19:42 Superphosphate_ you feeling better yet?
19:42 Electricguy yeah, much better :)
19:42 Superphosphate_ cool
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19:44 einball Iam about to do QLF :P
19:44 einball CQ de DL8JAN/qlf
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19:54 BitViper I wish i had a better antenna, i can do 20m and 10m, but 10m fsck's with my computer bad
19:55 masterofmonks http://matadornetwork.com/life/finding-the-fibonacci-sequence-all-over-the-place-vid/
19:55 BotSteve Title: Finding the Fibonacci sequence all over the place [VID] | Matador Network
19:55 einball Do you knwo the MP-1?
19:55 einball This is a great mobile antenna
19:56 einball It also works fine as a stationary
19:57 BatSteve .define oscar mike
19:57 BotSteve Couldn't get any definitions for oscar mike.
19:57 BatSteve .urban oscar mike
19:57 BotSteve BatSteve: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oscar%20mike
20:01 einball BatSteve talks to BotSteve ... wow ... true nerd :)
20:01 Monkeh BatSteve: 'on mission'
20:02 BatSteve einball: He's a useful bot!  why shouldn't I talk  to him?
20:02 BatSteve thanks Monkeh
20:02 Toastdude BatSteve!
20:02 BatSteve hey toast!
20:02 Superphosphate_ Botsteve is cool
20:03 einball Well ... I also consider to start a relationship with a bot. But I still can't decide what bot :)
20:04 BatSteve Hmm.
20:04 BatSteve Supybot?
20:05 einball Dunno. But Iam afraid of its rage if I cheat it ....
20:05 Superphosphate_ bot that wants to have pimples to become "more human'
20:05 einball *at
20:06 einball http://fmlife.com is soo great :D
20:06 BotSteve Title: fmlife.com
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20:09 kamelbulle Is anyone at the labs in the irc now?
20:09 BatSteve tggmc is the master control room
20:09 BatSteve .seen tgg|yNos
20:09 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw tgg|yNos 221.47 hours ago at 2011-12-29 14:41:54 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 20:09:59 UTC
20:10 BatSteve but none of them are active right now, kamelbulle.  what do you need?
20:10 kamelbulle Just wondering if they could change the live cam.
20:11 BatSteve We pretty much just live with whatever the cam is set to, I think.
20:11 BatSteve But you're welcome to ask tggmc.
20:11 mashpriborintorg cprossu can change it remotely
20:12 kamelbulle ok
20:14 BatSteve He can?  I didn't know that.
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20:21 mashpriborintorg he has a remote access to the computer for the jupiter console, and can control it in telnet or whatever
20:26 SparkyProjects Cprossu can change the view, but he won't as he doesn't know what's going on at the ;ab, don't want to reveal something he shouldn't
20:27 mashpriborintorg they must be installing servers and baluns
20:28 einball Electricguy: Well ... I just bought icecream .. and it is really good :D
20:28 * Cprossu is going to get food/other stuff
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20:29 BatSteve hi jess
20:29 * BitViper is too
20:29 Electricguy lol einball :P
20:29 KawaiiJess Ohai
20:30 KawaiiJess I just slept for 16 hours :D
20:30 BatSteve How'd that go for you?
20:30 KawaiiJess Hooray for the first weekend of school xD
20:30 KawaiiJess It was delicious
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20:39 Electricguy hahaah! cat humor :P http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/378806_310966825599444_205344452828349_1189733_400367068_n.jpg
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20:39 Toastdude lol
20:40 Electricguy :P
20:48 KawaiiJess BatSteve, http://www.fukung.net/v/36353/c2a2dc2eddbfc7973409a3097d0345fc.jpg
20:48 BotSteve Title: c2a2dc2eddbfc7973409a3097d0345fc.jpg » fukung.net : JR! JR! JR! STOP LOOKING AT FUKUNG
20:48 BatSteve KawaiiJess: what is this why is there an alligator?
20:48 KawaiiJess *shrugs*
20:48 KawaiiJess Pretty sweet photo
20:49 BatSteve I don't even.
20:49 BatSteve (:
20:51 sndwrx hahahah
20:51 sndwrx http://badlipreading.tumblr.com/post/12970223962
20:51 BotSteve Title: Bad Lip Reading — “RON PAUL” — A BLR SoundBite
20:52 SparkyProjects BatSteve, you may be interested (green with envy)
20:52 SparkyProjects http://current.com/entertainment/wtf/85401471_man-builds-30-000-jumbo-jet-simulator-in-his-bedroom.htm
20:52 SparkyProjects His website http://www.747simulator.co.uk/page96.html
20:52 SparkyProjects click on 'world flight' on his site, there's a behind the scenes vid
20:52 BotSteve Title: John Davis
20:52 BotSteve Title: Man Builds $30,000 Jumbo Jet Simulator in his Bedroom // Current TV
20:52 KawaiiJess BatSteve, http://www.fukung.net/v/41753/4c233ced192d346c833367092ade5a96.gif
20:52 BotSteve Title: 4c233ced192d346c833367092ade5a96.gif » fukung.net : My arms are full of spaceships! SPACESHIPS!
20:53 BatSteve SparkyProjects: his website contains the single worst picture that any person has ever taken of themselves in the world.
20:53 Superphosphate_ Goodnight people
20:53 SparkyProjects :P
20:53 BatSteve Is that a flower on his uniform shirt?
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20:54 BatSteve KawaiiJess: ow!
20:54 SparkyProjects That's a poppy, it's remembering the fallen in wars
20:54 KawaiiJess Right? I can't imagine that felt good
20:54 SparkyProjects http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remembrance_Day
20:54 BotSteve Title: Remembrance Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
20:55 BatSteve Ah, didn't know that.
20:56 KawaiiJess Lol BatSteve, look at the stupid girls: http://www.fukung.net/v/32328/3d1502792141b2af4a913e0b8720ae55.gif
20:56 BotSteve Title: 3d1502792141b2af4a913e0b8720ae55.gif » fukung.net : omgwtfbbq!!!!!!1
20:57 sndwrx KawaiiJess:  How's the SIP setup working out?
20:58 KawaiiJess So so. Talkatone refuses to answer the phone when its in sleep mode even though I intalled insomniac which supposedly keeps the wifi on during sleep mode
20:58 KawaiiJess And my college is blocking whatever port talkatone uses
20:59 sndwrx hm.
21:00 sndwrx VPN connection to get around the port issue?
21:00 KawaiiJess It doesn't help Talktaone is a ramwhore and if I leave it running, leaks presumably, and hogs all available ram
21:00 BatSteve I wonder what the accelerant was.
21:00 BatSteve Maybe alcohol?
21:01 sndwrx Also, with my jailbroken iPod I don't require any additional apps to keep wifi active during sleep...
21:01 sndwrx KawaiiJess: Time to find a new SIP phone, maybe?
21:01 KawaiiJess Somethin
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21:02 Ponko BotSteve is alive
21:02 Ponko as too is BatSteve
21:03 BatSteve indeed
21:03 Monkeh KawaiiJess: Android > iPhone. ;P
21:03 sndwrx I'll have to fire up my iPod in a day or two and see what software I'm using.  It's just been too long for me to remember off the top of my head.
21:03 sndwrx Monkeh: To be sure.
21:03 Monkeh CM has built in SIP support. Works fine.
21:03 sndwrx I had suggested trying to dual-boot her iPhone...  ;)
21:03 Ponko how alive will you be for the Saints game BatSteve :P
21:03 sndwrx Monkeh: Is that included in CM7?
21:03 KawaiiJess Holy fucking shit BatSteve: http://www.fukung.net/v/11215/fd7b5440db4e838ea5e22c492d6a8096.jpg
21:04 BotSteve Title: fd7b5440db4e838ea5e22c492d6a8096.jpg » fukung.net : Dance funny man. Dance!
21:04 Monkeh sndwrx: Yes
21:04 KawaiiJess That picture is epic
21:04 * sndwrx nods.
21:04 Toastdude Anyone know if it's okay to use aluminum for electrolysis of water?
21:04 sndwrx I haven't been able to play with CM7 since one of its very early releases.
21:05 BatSteve wow
21:05 BatSteve Ponko: Don't know!
21:05 BatSteve Probably won't watch it live
21:05 BatSteve Radio maybe
21:06 einball Toastdude: It will dissolve but yes, it is okay.
21:06 einball Now: gn8 :)
21:07 Toastdude Is aluminum toxic when dissolved? Like if I did it in a drinking glass, will it wash away?
21:07 einball Toastdude: aluminium gets coated with a layer of oxyde
21:07 einball *when it is in air
21:08 KawaiiJess You all should look at that picture
21:08 KawaiiJess The one I just posted. Fucking epic pictorial story
21:08 KawaiiJess Jumping in the shower
21:08 Toastdude I know
21:08 Toastdude Huge nest...
21:08 Toastdude So would it wash away with the water, or will it remain?
21:10 einball Humm, don't know .. I suppose it will get washed away, because it coats itself again
21:10 einball But I'd never do such things in a drinking glass
21:11 Toastdude Okay, danke
21:11 einball Toastdude: I could try it tomorrow if you want
21:12 Toastdude I ran it for about 5 minutes.... Does that produce a lot of dissolved aluminum?
21:12 Toastdude At 9v
21:12 einball no, not really
21:12 Toastdude Okay, so it's safe as long as I wash it?
21:13 einball Should be. But I'd never put something in there I'd eat or drink.
21:13 einball Iam very cautionous
21:14 einball I do not even drink out of cups where I had acetic acid in.
21:14 Toastdude Yeah... I'll use an actual non-food container next time..
21:15 einball and more inert materials for electrolysis like gold
21:16 einball Also the carbon electrodes from those 4,5V batteries are great because they have a big surface
21:17 Toastdude Does a coil work well?
21:17 einball (but be careful with those! The batteries tend to be bitchy when you take them apart)
21:17 Toastdude Like the Mac battery chris took apart? :P
21:18 mashpriborintorg they are real incendiary bombs when abused
21:18 Toastdude Oh..
21:18 einball It's all about the conductance of the water (you might add a little bit of salt) and the surface of the electrodes and of course the current through the system (the higher the better. You should stop if you already drap 100amps)
21:18 einball Toastdude: yep, these are lithium batteries
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21:19 einball Toastdude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pizFsY0yjss
21:19 BotSteve Title: Exploding Laptop - YouTube
21:19 einball Toastdude: I talked about those: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5b/Flachbatterie_PHILIPS_SUPER_4,5_V.jpg/220px-Flachbatterie_PHILIPS_SUPER_4,5_V.jpg
21:20 Toastdude What about a 12v lantern battery?
21:20 einball uuh, that could be a lead acid battery .. or worse ..
21:21 einball do not touch these! there can be sulfuric acid in it! And lead is also very toxic
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21:22 lwq1996 wow i won the contest yesterday
21:22 einball lwq1996: contest?
21:22 lwq1996 physicsducks channel
21:22 einball the rubber cable thing?
21:22 mashpriborintorg it was not that hard
21:22 lwq1996 the ribon cable
21:22 einball oh ribbon .. yes
21:22 lwq1996 yeah lol
21:22 sndwrx What was the contest?
21:23 einball not rubber ... just looked that up this morning
21:23 einball I just knew the german word
21:23 lwq1996 what whats batmas suspenders made out of
21:23 sndwrx He wore suspenders made of ribbon cable?
21:23 Toastdude You won? I posted a comment first.... idk
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21:23 Toastdude Holy crap, einball
21:23 Ponko hmm
21:24 Toastdude Hi Ponko
21:24 sndwrx hi Ponko.  Watching any games today?
21:24 lwq1996 eh i dont need them
21:24 einball Toastdude: Lithium exposed to air can exceed 2k°C
21:24 Toastdude :O
21:24 Toastdude Lol, neither do I.. :P
21:24 lwq1996 hey toastdude whats your address send me it in a pm and i will give them too you
21:24 mashpriborintorg it burns sun bright
21:24 Toastdude Seriously?
21:25 lwq1996 yes seriosly
21:25 einball mashpriborintorg: that was magnesia
21:25 mashpriborintorg it's a little more safe to handle :p
21:26 mashpriborintorg you can get magnesium parts in old laptops
21:26 * lwq1996 waits for toastdudes pm
21:26 Ponko sndwrx: no i watched a good football game today at Redditch :)
21:26 mashpriborintorg it's used for structural reinforcement, without being a weight issue
21:27 Ponko lwq1996: why so serious?
21:27 JA12 magnesia? magnesium oxide?
21:27 Ponko milk of magnesia?
21:27 mashpriborintorg nope, magnesium metal
21:27 einball oh no .. pure magnesium
21:27 mashpriborintorg let it oxidize, you'll habe magnesia
21:27 einball sorry, my english skills on elements are a bit rusty :)
21:27 mashpriborintorg mine too
21:28 Ponko sometimes after a curry you'd need pure magnesium for the constipation mashpriborintorg lol ;)
21:29 einball Toastdude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J96ywv7yAM
21:29 BotSteve Title: Lithium Polymer Cell - Catastrophic failure - YouTube
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21:29 einball thats what you get if you overload a lithium cell with just 0,1V oder more
21:30 mashpriborintorg and reverse feeding a tantalium capacitor makes a little flame device too
21:30 einball I just wanted to sleep lol :D
21:31 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfEMnx-Nz-w&amp;feature=related This is what you get if you overload chuck norris
21:31 BotSteve Title: U.S. Nuclear Bomb Test - Grable - YouTube
21:31 einball hum ... :)
21:31 Toastdude That seems like a pretty good rocket XD
21:32 einball There is actual a concept that uses nuclear explosions for propulsion in space
21:34 mashpriborintorg not only in space, they wanted to use it into long range bomber aircrafts, at a time
21:34 einball obviously that is not a good idea :D
21:35 Toastdude Haha
21:35 einball but what they used are nuclear reactors and electric motors
21:35 einball on planes .. I think there had been 2 prototype planes
21:37 Toastdude Bye einball, nice to meet you... Btw, Welcome to the Geek group! :P
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21:39 einball hmm, the whole bed is still in the dryer
21:40 mashpriborintorg the whole bed is waiting for me, time to go
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21:40 mashpriborintorg bye
21:41 einball mmmhm
21:45 einball Well .. Now I just browse Wikipedia and Youtube for thermonuclear weapons .. Maybe I'll watch wargames once more :d
21:48 tonsofpcs Willing to teach AV signaling, wiring, rack dress techniques, etc.   to anyone who helps re-configure my HT 'rack' (it's already torn down, time to rebuild!).
21:52 sndwrx Follow along on your justin.tv stream, or something?
22:00 tonsofpcs sndwrx: no, actually help
22:01 sndwrx Ah, okay.
22:01 tonsofpcs I need someone to hold the cardboard backing stuff in place while it gets nailed, help nail it, help cut holes for cables, help cut tiny holes for mounting zipties, etc.
22:01 sndwrx Where are you located?
22:01 tonsofpcs NY
22:01 tonsofpcs near binghamton
22:01 sndwrx Pay airfare and I'm there.  I can hold cardboard and more.  :P
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22:02 sndwrx Actually I'm fairly versed in cabling techniques and things, but I'm always up for extra tips and helping people out.
22:02 tonsofpcs sorry, only offering education and possibly food ;)
22:02 sndwrx bummer.  ;)
22:02 tonsofpcs "ADD THE BACON.  this is the best part of the hash browns." << :D
22:03 tonsofpcs wannabe-afk: stop making me hungry.  srsly.
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22:08 Ponko just realised that Katemonster is 24 in 10 days
22:08 Ponko 25*
22:08 eadthem thats the 3rd time ive died  lost my items   all because of a bug while swimming
22:09 tonsofpcs eadthem: ?
22:09 eadthem minecraft
22:09 tonsofpcs ...
22:11 * tonsofpcs goes back to making his breakfsat
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22:19 Nam3o hi all
22:20 BatSteve hi Nam3o
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22:22 tonsofpcs mmm omlette du pepperoni
22:30 injektion How in the world did I miss this http://www.tomoberheim.com/
22:30 BotSteve Title: Tom Oberheim.com
22:37 BatSteve time for foods
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22:48 technowizard howdy howdy
22:49 injektion Does anyone know why they used to put toilets in laundry rooms?
22:50 technowizard hmmm
22:50 technowizard maybe because there was already plumbing in there
22:50 technowizard or the humidity factor
22:51 technowizard or using a toilet is the start of removing clothing, so phsycologically it fits with taking off clothes to wash them
22:52 tonsofpcs injektion: who is they?
22:52 injektion house builders
22:53 tonsofpcs many homes around here have a toilet on an upper floor and a wash room in the basement...w hen they weere built, gravity helped the toilets and the 'wash room' just housed a basin with a washing board...
22:53 injektion This was a single story house
22:54 tonsofpcs I would expect that more modern home builders would put WCs and laundry rooms adjacent for ease of plumbing
23:03 injektion Well it's like that but this house is ODL
23:03 injektion err OLD
23:04 lwq1996 damn i want to go shooting tomorrow
23:07 Monkeh wannabe-afk: I believe I have solved the power issue.
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23:13 Ponko right how much money would do you think you'd need for a 3 day trip to amsterdam
23:14 Ponko would you*
23:18 Ponko need help on this guys i've googled it you name and haven't found anything to fully help
23:19 Electricguy going to bed now :) night night all :P
23:20 Ponko night
23:23 ZUGAN wannabe-afk, let me know when your back
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23:37 Ponko welp that was fun
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