Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-01-08

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00:20 DruidicRifleman joined #thegeekgroup
00:23 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
00:23 BotSteve TOASTY!
00:24 Toastdude Hi
00:29 Experimentonomen toaster
00:29 Experimentonomen :P
00:29 Toastdude :P
00:57 Toastdude .seen lwq1996
00:57 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw lwq1996 644.27 hours ago at 2011-12-12 04:41:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:57:08 UTC
00:57 Toastdude ...
00:58 Experimentonomen i can swear i saw lwq1996 yesterday :P
00:59 lwq1996 hi
00:59 Toastdude Hi Lee
01:05 wannabe-afk hi lee
01:05 wannabe1987 ghi toast
01:06 wannabe1987 hi druid
01:06 wannabe1987 hi*
01:06 Toastdude Wannabe!
01:06 wannabe1987 toasty!
01:06 wannabe1987 i got out early, but then went to the lab, but theres diddly squat that i can do, so i talked on the phone and decided against going out and came home.  i'm so tired and i've done nothing today :/
01:07 wannabe1987 lwq1996
01:07 wannabe1987 did you get my fb msg?
01:08 wannabe1987 ZUGAN: i'm back
01:08 ZUGAN ah
01:08 wannabe1987 Monkeh: what power issue?
01:08 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: but bacon IS the best part, come on now...
01:08 ZUGAN I got some server errors a while back, but it's back online
01:09 wannabe1987 its not my list...i just found it after lwq1996 and killa-x posted it
01:09 wannabe1987 i don't know the first thing about hosting servers and webpages and stuffs
01:10 ZUGAN I meant for the download
01:10 wannabe1987 for the photonic videos?
01:11 ZUGAN yea
01:11 wannabe1987 my hands feel weird
01:11 wannabe1987 yeah thats not mine
01:11 wannabe1987 i don't watch his vids :P
01:11 wannabe1987 i have to run back to the car, brb
01:11 ZUGAN ok
01:13 DruidicRifleman any one have his video about why he deleted his acount
01:17 wannabe1987 www.youtube.com/thisisphotonic
01:17 wannabe1987 i think
01:18 Experimentonomen g'day miss wannabe
01:18 wannabe1987 hi Experimentonomen :D
01:18 wannabe1987 hows you?
01:19 Photon939 hey Experimentonomen
01:19 wannabe1987 hi Photon939
01:19 Photon939 and hi wannabe1987
01:20 Photon939 I have a little xenon emergency strobe running from the power of a tealight candle
01:20 wannabe1987 what?
01:20 wannabe1987 why?
01:20 Photon939 cause it's fun
01:20 wannabe1987 that answers the why
01:20 Monkeh wannabe1987: The lack of power on the plane issue.
01:20 wannabe1987 oooo how'd you do that?
01:21 Monkeh wannabe1987: For starters, I think my laptop can power USB while switched off. That battery will last my phone about a week.
01:21 wannabe1987 bring a UPS?
01:21 wannabe1987 sweet
01:21 Photon939 using tecs in reverse
01:21 Monkeh wannabe1987: Also I'm toying with building my own portable power pack now.
01:21 Photon939 to generate electrical power from the heat of the candle
01:21 wannabe1987 sounds interesting, Photon939
01:21 wannabe1987 and i would.....:P
01:21 Experimentonomen wannabe1987, dunno hows i am
01:22 wannabe1987 you don't?  why not?
01:22 * wannabe1987 got licked by a cat today :D
01:23 wannabe1987 it licked my cheek.  i dunno why.
01:23 wannabe1987 maybe cuz dog licked there?
01:23 Photon939 hmm, seems my xeon heatsink can't dissipate enough heat passively
01:23 Photon939 to maintain 1.2v out of the peltiers
01:23 wannabe1987 my sister asked what the difference between 2pc and 4pc chicken dinners is....
01:25 BitViper *facepalm*
01:25 BitViper tell her nothing, get her a 2pc and you a 4pc :)
01:25 wannabe1987 she's 10.  mom swears she's blonde, but afaik black kids are not blonde (by birth)
01:25 Photon939 i should build a stirling engine to run a fan over the xeon heatsink lol
01:26 roadran422 Hi all!
01:26 Photon939 hi roadran422
01:26 roadran422 I've been playing mario party for wii all day! Photonic? Or just a name?
01:26 wannabe1987 oh noes!  its roadran422! :P  Hi
01:26 roadran422 xD ^
01:27 roadran422 Photon939: Photonic or just a name?
01:28 Photon939 i am not in any way relayed to PE
01:28 Photon939 err PI
01:28 wannabe1987 ool
01:28 wannabe1987 lol
01:28 roadran422 Ok xD
01:28 Photon939 in fact i found his going away message to be quite distasteful
01:28 roadran422 Anything new?
01:29 roadran422 Yah... And the captain blog lol
01:29 Photon939 I have some complaints about how chris does things sometimes, but I felt photonic induction's bash on chris was completely unjustified
01:29 roadran422 I don't really feel that chris anything wrong.
01:30 masterofmonks Photon939: it was apparently quite an emotional event for him, and as such would allow some irrationality.
01:30 Photon939 he dug his own hole
01:30 Photon939 as far as I'm concerned
01:30 roadran422 The only thing chris "stole" was the ornament
01:31 masterofmonks Also for the time being discussion of the photonicinduction departure should be restricted to #tgg:controversial as per Seroster's request.
01:31 roadran422 Ok. I agree to that.
01:31 Photon939 masterofmonks: k, I'll refrain from talking about it then
01:31 roadran422 Who's ever played mario party for wii?
01:32 masterofmonks Not refrain, redirect.
01:32 roadran422 xD ^
01:32 Photon939 heh, I don't have any significant urges to discuss it
01:32 Photon939 so I'll just leave it be
01:32 roadran422 Ok...
01:34 BitViper wannabe1987 : so just mentally blonde ? LOL
01:34 wannabe1987 apparently, yes
01:34 injektion joined #thegeekgroup
01:34 wannabe1987 hi injektion
01:35 roadran422 Hola ink!
01:36 injektion hi
01:37 roadran422 <..>
01:37 roadran422 <...>
01:38 wannabe1987 <.>
01:38 roadran422 <,>
01:38 wannabe1987 i only have one nose
01:38 wannabe1987 no, its not running
01:38 roadran422 I have 2 nostrils.
01:38 wannabe1987 why is ff9 out?
01:38 wannabe1987 o i have go make food
01:38 roadran422 xD
01:39 Experimentonomen masterofmonks, how about a instakick/ban if pi's name is mentioned ? :P
01:40 masterofmonks How about one for those who suggest kicks or bans?
01:40 sndwrx Have you seen the Raspberry Pi computer?  I can't wait for its release.
01:40 masterofmonks sndwrx: It looks awesome.
01:40 sndwrx Yeah I'm really excited about it.
01:40 masterofmonks I think that there will be a huge demand for them.
01:41 sndwrx Absolutely
01:41 masterofmonks I can think of at least a dozen aplications in my house.
01:41 sndwrx Soooo many possibilities, especially at that price point.
01:41 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
01:42 wannabe1987 http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/397617_10150490700313425_505913424_8678053_1912904273_n.jpg Toastdude:  look at puppy.
01:42 masterofmonks Apparently one sold for 3k the other day.
01:42 wannabe1987 he got stuck in my sisters yarn.
01:42 roadran422 yarn?
01:42 sndwrx That's ridiculous.
01:42 masterofmonks Apparently the procedes were going to charity or something like that.
01:42 roadran422 Wow... Literaly yarn xD so cute!
01:42 sndwrx I didn't even know they were ready to start auctioning the dry run.
01:43 wannabe1987 he got tangled and couldn't untangle himself so he yipped and dad went WTH?  and found this, so he took a photo!
01:43 sndwrx Guess I need to check on progress.
01:43 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: just to mess with you more, here
01:43 wannabe1987 http://phoodinyoface.blogspot.com/2012/01/panko-crusted-lime-arizona-dream.html  have more bacon
01:43 BotSteve Title: Phood in your face: Panko-crusted lime Arizona Dream Chicken and Forward! Hashbrowns
01:43 sndwrx They had hoped for a December release originally, but you know how those things are.
01:44 masterofmonks mmmm panko
01:44 BatSteve yo
01:44 injektion Are Cisco switches any good at speed sensing?
01:44 wannabe1987 BatSteve!
01:44 wannabe1987 yes, panko.  what else is there?
01:44 roadran422 Batsteve, the bot running yet?
01:44 roadran422 thanks botsteve!
01:44 BotSteve Happy to help, roadran422
01:44 roadran422 I think it is...
01:45 lwq1996 thanks masterofmonks for showing me the iraqveterans youtube beause im now addited
01:46 masterofmonks wannabe1987: making your own from whole wheat crackers that you made yourself.
01:46 BatSteve roadran422: yes.
01:46 wannabe1987 ok, that too
01:46 roadran422 Ok nice!
01:47 wannabe1987 how would one make whole wheat crackers?
01:48 masterofmonks wannabe1987: first do you want levened or unlevened?
01:48 wannabe1987 um...like i get in the store :P
01:48 masterofmonks Ok..
01:48 masterofmonks wannabe1987: first do you want levened or unlevened?
01:48 masterofmonks Some are and some are not at the store.
01:49 wannabe1987 levened
01:49 masterofmonks Hot rise or yeast?
01:49 wannabe1987 i have yeast, so yeast
01:49 roadran422 Yeast infection ^
01:50 wannabe1987 no
01:50 injektion Should I attempt to put the old SCSI backplane back into the poweredge
01:50 roadran422 xD
01:50 wannabe1987 i make bread/pizza crust
01:51 roadran422 FROM WHAT YEAST!?!?!?!?! x scurries away x
01:52 wannabe1987 the stuff in the jar.
01:52 masterofmonks And do you want a bread cracker or a flat cracker?
01:52 roadran422 xD
01:52 masterofmonks roadran422: shush
01:52 roadran422 masterofmonks: You don't get it do you? Yeast... Yeast infection...
01:52 masterofmonks roadran422: I got it, now shush, or be shushed,.
01:52 wannabe1987 i do
01:52 wannabe1987 i'm not in teh mood to be fucked aroudn with or trolled
01:53 roadran422 Ok... Ok... Sorry....
01:53 * Hackbat was going to say he can't belive Photoinduct went all douchebaggy but he had that sorta temperment all along
01:54 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now Lab's Live Stream: http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | MEMBER BLOGS http://is.gd/tggblogs | upcoming website maintenance sunday | Discussion of Photonicinduction shoudl take place in #tgg:controversial
01:56 masterofmonks wannabe1987: have you tried wasa crackers?
01:56 wannabe1987 white chicken chili with bacon, yes or no
01:56 wannabe1987 no
01:56 Experimentonomen Hackbat, im suprised he dident wail at me for copying blowing up motors
01:57 wannabe1987 stupid paper cut
01:58 roadran422 FUnny...
01:59 roadran422 Huge gashes don't hurt as much as a little paper cut. It's true right?
02:02 masterofmonks wannabe1987: I personally like the crispbread style crackers, though mostly you can only find wasa around here.
02:02 Ponko suppose we're playing the lions then eh?
02:02 lwq1996 ok the issue is my port not my ord
02:03 lwq1996 cord
02:03 masterofmonks lwq1996: well that is good to know.
02:03 wannabe1987 yes, lions
02:03 wannabe1987 i don't like thin crackers....
02:03 lwq1996 yeah thats why my charging isnt good
02:03 masterofmonks That means that you should be able to solder on a new one.
02:04 masterofmonks Assuming that it is a fairly common connector type.
02:04 lwq1996 barel
02:04 lwq1996 barle
02:04 lwq1996 oh i give up
02:04 masterofmonks Do you know the size of the barrel?
02:05 Ponko i'm just over looking one thing
02:05 wannabe1987 lions are 7-0
02:05 lwq1996 nope look to be a 1/4 one though
02:05 Ponko 14-7
02:05 Ponko but
02:05 Ponko it's the Saints
02:05 Ponko and...
02:05 Ponko well
02:05 wannabe1987 well, 20 min ago thats what the score was. sorry i'm not watching
02:05 wannabe1987 i get my info from fb
02:05 Ponko i'm on NFL.com
02:13 wannabe1987 yay the onions didn't make me cry!
02:14 wannabe1987 http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/health/120107/india-diseases-drug-resistant-tuberculosis-tb-health  can anyone say "o shit"?
02:14 BotSteve Title: New strain of totally drug resistant tuberculosis TB rattles Indian health authorities
02:20 Ponko o shit
02:20 CaptainNiobe morning all... :)
02:20 Ponko oi oi :)
02:21 wannabe1987 thanks Ponko
02:21 wannabe1987 morning niobe :D
02:21 Ponko welcome
02:21 BatSteve howdy CaptainNiobe
02:21 Ponko batty my pilot dude
02:21 CaptainNiobe :)
02:22 Zozoious joined #thegeekgroup
02:22 CaptainNiobe how is everyone?
02:22 wannabe1987 good
02:22 wannabe1987 how was your sleep?
02:22 Ponko alright
02:23 CaptainNiobe good... when i wasn't stupidly worrying about mom sleeping a little longer than i expected... lol...
02:23 Ponko i wish my gfs mums computer wasn't crap
02:23 wannabe1987 ...
02:23 wannabe1987 lol
02:23 wannabe1987 awwww
02:24 wannabe1987 i have compnay in the basement and it isn't kelley or nick :/
02:24 eadthem 1 cheep steak  cut in to strips and defatted   fryied with minced onions in 2 tblsp light tasteing olive oil   and a bit of old el da paso taco seasonings
02:25 wannabe1987 i need to stop attempting to burn myself
02:25 eadthem then take teh meat out and put in frozen peppers and onions   and  hoze it down with a propane torch while cooking on high
02:25 eadthem realy realy good fajitas
02:26 wannabe1987 i'm making white chicken chili :/  no room for steak stuff in my freezer.  is small
02:26 sndwrx You have company but you're on here?
02:26 wannabe1987 i'm in my kitchen.
02:26 wannabe1987 i'm kelly
02:26 wannabe1987 my housemate is kelley
02:27 wannabe1987 my landlord and his wife are watching a movie down here
02:27 BatSteve propane torch?
02:27 sndwrx I know who you are.
02:27 BatSteve Seriously?
02:27 * BatSteve is jealous
02:27 sndwrx I asked why you're on the computer if you have company.
02:27 eadthem its a cheepe
02:27 wannabe1987 i would hope you do....
02:27 wannabe1987 i don't have company
02:27 wannabe1987 its their tv
02:27 wannabe1987 they're watching a movie
02:27 eadthem http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploads18/ul1001297297967.jpg
02:28 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc5un5Mf4zs&amp;feature=related
02:28 BotSteve Title: How to Recycle Computers - YouTube
02:28 Seroster OH GOD THAT IDIOT
02:28 * wannabe1987 still needs a teapot :P
02:29 Toastdude BatSteve!
02:29 BatSteve Toastdude!
02:29 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
02:29 KawaiiJess joined #thegeekgroup
02:30 Toastdude Wannabe!
02:30 Toastdude Jess!
02:30 wannabe1987 :(
02:30 wannabe1987 :)*
02:30 KawaiiJess HAI PEOPLE
02:30 eadthem BatSteve accualy i want 1 with a bigger bend in it so it can aim downwards
02:30 eadthem ive debated bending it
02:30 KawaiiJess Kate's lurking behind me with a gun right now >.>
02:31 wannabe1987 sounds like kate
02:31 wannabe1987 hi kate!  and jess
02:31 eadthem also 1 with a wider output flame would be nice to
02:31 BatSteve Which gun?
02:31 BatSteve Her M4?  Or did that sell?
02:31 BatSteve I don't remember.
02:32 wannabe1987 i opened my box of twinnings chai and there was a wrong flavor in there :/  can i write to them and say i don't like this?
02:34 BatSteve I think you can do anything you want.
02:34 BatSteve Whether it will help is another story.
02:36 wannabe1987 its the whole "satisfaction guarranteed" thingy.  i don't like apple flavored drinks
02:40 Ponko ah yes BatSteve i have a question
02:40 BatSteve answer!
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02:40 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
02:40 Toastdude Hi
02:40 Ponko you heard of +gX?
02:43 wannabe1987 email sent :P
02:43 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: right, that's what I was looking at :)
02:43 wannabe1987 i know.  and bacon is amazing.
02:43 wannabe1987 why were you complaining?!
02:44 tonsofpcs making me hungrry
02:44 tonsofpcs (I ended up making a 3 egg omlette w/ pepperoni)
02:45 wannabe1987 what, you don't have bacon bits?  how sad
02:45 tonsofpcs also, I wish bed bath and beyond still sold their chef's pan.  I got one for $9.50
02:45 wannabe1987 i have 2 bags :P
02:45 wannabe1987 i recieved two larger pans today from my clients daughter
02:45 tonsofpcs why would I have bacon bits? bacon is better!
02:46 wannabe1987 because its easier to store?
02:46 wannabe1987 i have a smallass freezer
02:46 tonsofpcs bacon is very easy to store.
02:46 tonsofpcs 1) open mouth
02:46 tonsofpcs 2) insert bacon
02:46 Ponko i can't believe this
02:46 wannabe1987 Ponko: lions are up, no?
02:46 Ponko no no
02:47 tonsofpcs *8 these are not the droids you are looking for **
02:47 Photon939 has anyone here worked with PTZ cameras?
02:47 Ponko i'm filling in my passport form and it has the bit sex male female
02:48 wannabe1987 yes they are...according to the news :
02:48 wannabe1987 :/
02:48 Ponko and to the side it says male or female more help
02:48 tonsofpcs Photon939: yes.
02:48 wannabe1987 lol
02:48 Photon939 tonsofpcs: I'm looking for documentation on the common control protocols
02:48 Photon939 or maybe some software that already has them implemented
02:48 tonsofpcs Photon939: producerbill has it all when he comes around.
02:48 tonsofpcs any protocol in specific?
02:49 Photon939 Diamond, Maxpro, VCL, Pelco P&D, Bosch Bi-Phase
02:49 Photon939 any of those would work
02:49 ZUGAN anyone here looking to buy an archos a43?
02:49 tonsofpcs I believe he has both pelcos and bosch.  also, I think he may have done some with VISCA (I use VISCA at work)
02:50 Photon939 I just got one to mess with from work
02:50 sndwrx fuckers.
02:50 Photon939 has bad capacitors, easy fix
02:50 tonsofpcs BotSteve: tell producerbill Photon939 is looking for PTZ protocol documentation and/or software
02:50 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I'll pass that on when producerbill is around.
02:50 sndwrx oops.
02:50 tonsofpcs sndwrx: how'd you know?!
02:51 Photon939 tonsofpcs: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1181169/P1000497.jpg
02:51 tonsofpcs you're not going to get honeywell docs easily.
02:51 Photon939 hehe.
02:52 Photon939 I'm sure I can get any documentation I need on it
02:52 tonsofpcs but I'm pretty sure bill has the pelcos and bosch docs and one of them working.  I think the cameras he was playing with can also do maxpro (there was one other protocol, I think this was it)
02:52 Photon939 I don't really need any of honeywell's documents anyway
02:52 Photon939 I just need the info for the protocols the camera accepts
02:53 tonsofpcs he may have posted some of it to the forums
02:53 tonsofpcs and you can probably contact him more immediately through there if he hasn't
02:53 Photon939 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1181169/P1000495.jpg
02:53 Photon939 I have the full pendant enclosure for it as well
02:54 tonsofpcs aww, how cute, he lost his house ;)
02:55 tonsofpcs we have the BRC-Z330, I think (w/ HDSDI i/o card)
02:56 Photon939 this one is fairly old
02:56 Photon939 just coax output
02:56 wannabe1987 should i put bacon bits in my white chili?
02:56 tonsofpcs HDSDI runs over coax ;)
02:57 Photon939 tonsofpcs: http://www.security.honeywell.com/uk/video/documents/Honeywell_HD6_Weather_DS.pdf
02:57 sndwrx OH YEAH
02:57 Ponko BatSteve: you watching the game
02:57 Ponko and you didn't answer my question
02:57 BatSteve nope
02:58 Ponko you heard of +gX
02:58 BatSteve I have no clue what +gX is.
02:58 tonsofpcs ewwww, it syncs to 24VAC
02:58 BatSteve And I didn't answer because CaptainNiobe was distracting me.
02:58 BatSteve I blame you for this CaptainNiobe
02:58 Ponko ah sorry mate
02:58 Ponko lol nah its no trouble mate
02:59 * CaptainNiobe sobs
02:59 masterofmonks BatSteve: don't worry, she's distracting me too.
02:59 CaptainNiobe :P
02:59 Ponko i don't want to know how masterofmonks ;)
02:59 tonsofpcs ok, back to drilling holes for twist ties
02:59 * wannabe1987 pokes lwq1996
02:59 Ponko oh how perfect was that
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03:01 wannabe1987 hi mantere
03:01 wannabe1987 its niobe's job to distract monks, but not bats....o.O
03:02 mantere hi wannabe1987
03:02 CaptainNiobe ohhh, but there's enough of me to go around :D
03:02 wannabe1987 lol
03:03 mantere .tfw Tampere, Finland
03:03 BotSteve 12°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Tampere/Pirkkala, FI!  'Fantastic do-nothing weather.'
03:03 ZUGAN .tfw 06032
03:03 BotSteve 50°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Farmington, CT!  'OH NO. THE WEATHER MACHINE IS BROKEN.'
03:03 Seroster Hey SparkyProjects, it was a pain, but I got the storage more or less sorted. I would love to see a video tour of your solutions
03:03 ZUGAN it's 50!?! damn!
03:04 mantere it's nice and chilly here :3
03:04 y007ghg7 .tfw 74965
03:04 BotSteve 50°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Westville, OK!  'Everything's nice butter weather!'
03:04 ZUGAN it's really 43
03:04 SparkyProjects Been meaning to do one for a while, might do it tomorrow
03:05 wannabe1987 .tfw iceland
03:05 BotSteve 36°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Reykjavik, IC!  'Fuck this place.'
03:06 Ponko lol my sister is going there
03:07 wannabe1987 ic?
03:07 wannabe1987 why?
03:07 wannabe1987 i'm listening to sigur ros
03:09 injektion wannabe1987: are you in my head?
03:09 wannabe1987 nope.
03:09 wannabe1987 i hope not anyway....
03:09 injektion lol
03:10 wannabe1987 why, you doing the same?
03:10 injektion yes
03:10 wannabe1987 nice.
03:11 Seroster I trimmed all my molded capacitor legs to 5cm
03:11 wannabe1987 its what i listen to at night to sleep, but its also calming, so i listened to it on the way home and since i've been home.  i love myipod.  it might be from 05/06, but its nifty and wonderful and works just as well as the day i got it
03:11 Seroster If I need longer wires Ill splice
03:13 Seroster I gotta sort my bolts from big mess to tiny neat bins with different kinds of screws. Small wood screws, big wood screws, small machinists screws, bolts. hexbolts... I cant say I look forward to sorting.
03:17 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: That's why I don't bother keeping anything which isn't special. Sorting screws and the like is mind numbing.
03:17 Ponko every single play i see C. Johnson you got anything other than that?
03:18 Seroster Special or practical?
03:18 Seroster I use shitloads of screws and bolts
03:18 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Special as in difficult to otherwise obtain or expensive.
03:18 Seroster I.E any bolt
03:19 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Bolts and screws I just buy in bulk from time to time. For woodscrews I probably have around 3000, all properly sorted.
03:19 Monkeh|Lap System cases ftw.
03:19 Seroster Wont take too long
03:19 Seroster Its only six liters.
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03:32 wannabe1987 wb, Monkeh|Lap
03:35 * Monkeh|Lap grumbles
03:36 wannabe1987 ?
03:36 Monkeh|Lap Need to have serious words with my video driver about this.
03:36 Experimentonomen .tfw 87150
03:36 BotSteve 45°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN 87150, !  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
03:40 lwq1996 hey how do i make a minecraft server
03:43 Experimentonomen lwq1996, download the mc_server softie off the minecraft site
03:44 lwq1996 i searched for it on the website can you give me a link
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03:48 sndwrx FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
03:49 Experimentonomen https://s3.amazonaws.com/MinecraftDownload/launcher/Minecraft_Server.exe
03:49 wannabe1987 what happened, sndwrx?
03:50 sndwrx 38- twenty something, Saints.
03:50 wannabe1987 :(
03:50 sndwrx Loser Lions, it's almost like they weren't even trying.
03:50 wannabe1987 did they lose?
03:51 wannabe1987 aka is the game done
03:51 Seroster gnight
03:51 wannabe1987 night sero
03:52 Seroster Go to fucking bed Experimentonomen
03:52 wannabe1987 at least he didn't tell you to take a camera...
03:53 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KhSMKfU8HE&amp;feature=player_embedded
03:53 BotSteve Title: Gulf Coast of Florida - YouTube
03:54 sndwrx wannabe1987: 6:50 remaining in the fourth.
03:54 wannabe1987 well, they could still do it, no?
03:55 sndwrx Wishful thinking for them to make up 17 points.
03:55 wannabe1987 true.
03:55 BitViper wait, lions game tonight ?
03:55 sndwrx Lions versus Saints
03:55 BitViper crap, i thought it was tomorow
03:55 sndwrx five and a half remaining, 21-38 Saints
03:56 BitViper and the lions CAN make up that many points, but i wouldnt hold my breath
03:56 sndwrx GO GO GOGOGOGO
03:56 sndwrx ugh
03:56 sndwrx They can if they actually try.
03:56 sndwrx This guy started to head downfield and he just laid down when two defense men came after him.
03:56 BitViper i dont suppose its on cbs or fox
03:56 sndwrx Someone needs to light a fire under their asses.
03:56 sndwrx NBC
03:57 BitViper bah
03:57 sndwrx That's the peacock, right?  (It's been so long since I actually watched TV, I can't recall)
03:57 BitViper i cant get nbc
03:57 sndwrx Ok.  We got a touchdown.
03:57 wannabe1987 where you watching at?
03:58 sndwrx And the point.
03:58 sndwrx 28-38
03:58 sndwrx 4:40 remaining
03:58 sndwrx .sayto wannabe1987 Home
03:58 sndwrx wannabe1987: rather
03:58 wannabe1987 ah.  i wasn't sure if you were there or if you were at a bar or something
03:58 BitViper wannabe1987 : east of big rapids, broadcast only, no nbc available, at all
03:58 wannabe1987 yes, i know where you are BitViper
03:58 sndwrx BitViper: What kind of internet connection?  I'll bet it's streaming somewhere.
03:59 sndwrx I can't remember the name of the site I used regularly last winter to watch games.
03:59 Experimentonomen my tv aint connected to a antenna anymore :P
03:59 sndwrx Was some foreign site primarily used for football (soccer football) broadcasts.
03:59 BitViper my network connection this time of nite is close to dialup =(
04:04 sndwrx Oh that sucks.
04:04 sndwrx What kind of connection do you have?
04:04 roadran422 Night all! Also, is it safe to be on the wii for also do you think it is safe to be on the wii for 8 hours and 59 minutes?
04:05 sndwrx As long as you don't exceed nine hours, you're safe.
04:05 wannabe1987 lol
04:05 wannabe1987 safe for what, you?  the wii?  your socail life?  your health?
04:05 roadran422 Night all! Also, is it a good idea to be on the wii for 8 hours and 59 minutes?
04:06 roadran422 Whoops xD
04:06 roadran422 sndwrx: xD
04:06 roadran422 The nintendo wii lol
04:06 BatSteve No.  It is not a good idea.
04:06 roadran422 And yes safe for me lol
04:06 BitViper sndwrx : in theory 3.5 in and 768 out ... realisticly ... i get that from say 4am to 2pm on a good day
04:06 wannabe1987 no, bad bad idea :P
04:06 roadran422 I was playing and hacking it... It was fun!
04:07 roadran422|zZz Well.. Night lol
04:07 sndwrx .sayto BitViper Strange.  Cable?  DSL?
04:08 roadran422|zZz If someone can help me with wii homebrew, then send me a pm...
04:08 Ponko NeWtoz: time to take the flags down me thinks
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04:08 BitViper dsl, the problem is the isp's gateway router (between them and the backbone) is borked and makes a huge bottleneck
04:08 lwq1996 hey experimentonmen do i actually have to have minecraft on a computer to run it
04:08 sndwrx Dang it, have to stop switching between telnet and IRC.  Trying to execute telnet commands over here.
04:09 BitViper but they dont care. im tempted to go down there and fix it for them, im pretty sure i know the building and the room whre it is (ive been there)
04:09 sndwrx hm.
04:09 sndwrx Local ISP?
04:09 sndwrx Or just poorly managed larger ISP?
04:10 BitViper as local as it gets for me, but they cover a large peice of michigan, but like most isps, theyre (a) idiots, and/or (b) care more about their bottom line than their customers
04:10 sndwrx Poorly managed local branch of a larger ISP, rather.
04:10 sndwrx aha.
04:10 roadran422|zZz Wii hombrew help... Pm? Night!
04:12 lwq1996 Experimentonomen?
04:13 Ponko poor Detroit
04:13 BitViper things would be much different if they hadnt been fsck'd by the refs last week
04:14 Ponko hmmm
04:14 Ponko right
04:14 Ponko i love how people blame refs
04:14 Ponko did the refs intercept 2 passes?
04:15 sndwrx The refs have been making bad judgement calls the last few games, I don't care who the teams have been.
04:15 BitViper no the clear td that they called not one, and couldnt be reviewed
04:15 sndwrx I think there are too many rules in the stupid game, anyway.
04:15 Ponko blame the rule book
04:15 BitViper agreed
04:15 BitViper sndwrx : agreed
04:15 sndwrx You give a guy a pigskin and let him get creamed by a train.
04:15 Ponko hmm
04:15 sndwrx None of this silly pass interference and other nonsense.
04:15 Ponko idk how that would make any difference
04:16 BitViper yea, let them play the friggin game already
04:16 Ponko lol who wants to see stick'em aloud back in the game?
04:16 Ponko lol
04:17 Ponko but c'mon do you HONESTLY think you'd of beaten the saints
04:17 sndwrx If the Lions had gotten the lead out, yeah.
04:17 sndwrx Some of those plays just looked like they had no vested interest in winning.
04:18 Ponko and every completion i saw in that was umm to a certain Calvin Johnson
04:18 Ponko got anyone else like that? because i couldn't see him
04:20 Ponko every big play or score was him and Stafford i forgot the other guy he threw to but c'mon beating the saints 1D isn't going to happen
04:21 Ponko you could of got a lead going but not in the Dome
04:23 Ponko you have Ford Field they have the Mercedes-Benz Superdome
04:24 Ponko and it's not the cars at all because that's a stupid thing to discuss on the matter of sports that's not racing
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04:26 Ponko hey whatever the refs did doesn't matter the refs made alot of calls against them as well you don't let the refs calls bog you down you just defy and overturn it yourself
04:27 wannabe1987 "Along with the rest of the lions fans, have to say, at least it was a better season than usual."
04:29 Ponko yep that's the positive to take from this
04:29 Ponko PLEASE don't fade away
04:29 Ponko and PLEASE come to wembley
04:30 Ponko hey nothing gets you excited than a trip across the pond
04:30 tonsofpcs done.  Pics are on facebook.
04:31 Ponko who here would like to go to England and i can assure that most of the people on here will say yes
04:31 tonsofpcs aye
04:31 Ponko mainly americans
04:31 tonsofpcs but only if i can visit the beeb
04:31 tonsofpcs and perhaps get a job there
04:32 Ponko but why you want us OUT of YOUR countryu
04:32 wannabe1987 i want to go back...
04:32 Ponko which was formerly ours
04:32 Ponko wannabe1987: do it
04:32 Ponko DO IT NOW
04:32 wannabe1987 fund it and i will.
04:32 Ponko lol sorry arnie quote
04:33 tonsofpcs Ponko: what?
04:33 Ponko you ever watched Predator tonsofpcs?
04:33 tonsofpcs anyway, I have pics of the rebuilt home theater setup on facebook.
04:33 Ponko ooo link to view
04:33 Ponko and make it so everyone else can see it lol
04:35 Cprossu tgg|yNos are you somehow still at the lab?
04:37 Ponko NFC Atlanta Falcons/New York Giants @ Green Bay Packers & New Orleans Saints @ San Francisco 49ers AFC Denver Broncos/Pittsburgh Steelers @ New England Patriots & Houston Texans @ Baltimore Ravens
04:40 Ponko anyway time for beddy byes
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04:47 wannabe1987 .define syndactyly
04:47 BotSteve syndactyly — noun: 1. (biology) The normal condition, in some animals and birds, of having fused digits, 2. The anomalous condition, in humans, of having some fingers or toes fused with a web
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04:58 tehdark45 hello people of the copper tubes
04:59 tonsofpcs copper?
04:59 tonsofpcs you're in teh dark ages :-p
04:59 Monkeh|Lap Only for approximately 800m, thank you very much.
04:59 tehdark45 not everywhere is fiber
04:59 tehdark45 >.>
05:00 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Everywhere is fibre.
05:00 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: They just have bits of copper stuck on the end.
05:00 tehdark45 and hello Monkeh|Lap and tonsofpcs
05:02 wannabe1987 hi tehdark45
05:03 tehdark45 how many tons of pcs can tonsofpcs have if tonsofpcs could have tons of pcs
05:03 tehdark45 hello wannabe1987
05:03 tehdark45 not confused today?
05:03 tehdark45 :P
05:04 wannabe1987 not so far
05:04 Monkeh|Lap I've avoided confusing her too much today. ;P
05:04 wannabe1987 Cprossu was the one that confused me first and made me into confused1987 :P
05:05 tehdark45 so Cprossu hacked you?
05:05 tehdark45 :P
05:05 wannabe1987 no
05:05 * wannabe1987 doesn't feel like splaining
05:05 tehdark45 i know what you mean
05:06 tehdark45 he confused you so you made your name confused1987
05:06 Monkeh|Lap Inciting confusion is a talent of us computer geeks. ;P
05:06 tehdark45 just tell people 1000k != 1000
05:07 tehdark45 1k != 1mb
05:07 tehdark45 *
05:07 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: No, because that's wrong.
05:07 wannabe1987 you're smart
05:07 Monkeh|Lap Kilo = 1000. Nothing can change that.
05:07 tehdark45 in bytes >.<
05:07 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Same in bytes as in grams. Kilo means 1000.
05:08 Monkeh|Lap Just because Microsoft have used an incorrect definition for 30 years doesn't make it any less incorrect.
05:08 tehdark45 i thought 1024 was due to binary math?
05:09 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I never said we don't work in units of 1024. I just said that kilo is not the correct prefix.
05:10 tehdark45 ok ill remember my b next time
05:10 tehdark45 :P
05:10 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: b or B?
05:10 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: The correct prefix, fyi, is kibi.
05:10 tehdark45 most likely B since no one except the ISPs use (prefix)bits
05:10 tehdark45 :P
05:11 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I deal in bits all the time. :P
05:11 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, thats just to annoy everyone :P
05:12 tonsofpcs 0101010
05:13 tehdark45 1010000101010010
05:13 tehdark45 0xF
05:13 * tonsofpcs counts to 132 on his fingers and shows tehdark45
05:14 tehdark45 tonsofpcs must be an alien
05:14 tehdark45 :P
05:14 tehdark45 are all your bases belong to you tonsofpcs ?
05:14 tehdark45 :P
05:14 tonsofpcs no, just base 2.
05:15 tehdark45 let me guess
05:15 tehdark45 you show 2 fingers
05:15 tehdark45 and call it 132
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05:17 wannabe1987 o shoot.  look at the time....need to go to bed soon :/
05:17 eadthem 1+2+4+8+16+32+64+128+256+512=1023 on 2 hands
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05:30 Coderjoe ...
05:30 Coderjoe mmm, too
05:30 Coderjoe 1 kiB
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05:32 tehdark45 1 nibbble!
05:32 tehdark45 nibble*
05:33 wannabe1987 what, are you fishing?
05:34 Coderjoe nybble
05:35 Coderjoe Monkeh|Lap: 2^10 vs 10^3 was well ingrained before ms became dominant
05:40 wannabe-zz .c 450km to miles
05:40 BotSteve 279.617037 miles
05:40 wannabe-zz dayum
05:42 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: And it's MS who have perpetuated it despite it being a obscenely simple thing to fix and educate users on.
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05:42 Toastdude Muon!
05:42 Toastdude Yay muons!
05:43 wannabe-zz .define muon
05:43 BotSteve muon — noun: 1. An unstable elementary particle in the lepton family, having similar properties to the electron but with a mass 209 times greater
05:44 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: Windows holds at least a 75% share of the desktop market, probably closer to 90%. It is most definitely Microsoft's responsibility and has been for decades.
05:44 Toastdude Bye BatSteve-Away
05:44 Coderjoe "i would walk 804.672 km. and i would walk 804.672 more. just to be the man that walked 1609.344 km to fall down at your door."
05:44 BatSteve-Away seeya
05:44 Coderjoe whatever
05:45 wannabe-zz night bats
05:45 wannabe-zz lol @ Coderjoe
05:45 Coderjoe doesn't have quite the same ring to iy
05:45 Coderjoe it
05:45 wannabe-zz no, not really
05:46 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: What if he's a sailor?
05:46 Coderjoe are you really asking me to convert the song to nautical miles?
05:47 tonsofpcs do do do ...
05:47 wannabe-zz there.  i posted that to facebook and got a "like" :P
05:47 tonsofpcs how do you know it wasn't written in nautical miles?
05:47 tonsofpcs why do you assume statute miles?
05:48 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: No, just saying if you use nautical miles it's 926 and 1852. Sounds slightly better. :P
05:48 Coderjoe because statute miles are the coloquial miles
05:48 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: Not if you're a ship's navigator or a pilot. :P
05:49 Coderjoe 434.488121 and 868.976242
05:49 Coderjoe at least assuming statute converted to nautical
05:49 Experimentonomen pphhhhhhbbbbbbbbbtt
05:49 Coderjoe and we are all dorks
05:50 Experimentonomen nope
05:50 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: .. No, I'm saying take 'miles' as 'nautical miles', and then the result in kilometres is 926 and 1852.
05:50 Experimentonomen only i am a dork in here
05:50 tonsofpcs hey now
05:50 Coderjoe Experimentonomen: but you're not even in the argument over the song lyrics in different units
05:50 wannabe-zz thanks Toastdude
05:51 Toastdude For what?
05:51 wannabe-zz "like"
05:51 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: and you're not... oh, nevermind, we'll tell you when you're older
05:51 Toastdude Ah
05:51 Coderjoe how about 160,000 rods and 320,000 rods?
05:52 Monkeh|Lap /me beats Coderjoe into submission with a large book
05:52 Monkeh|Lap The hell did that whitespace come from?
05:52 Monkeh|Lap Oh well.
05:53 tonsofpcs how about you make up a new unit, dervived from the speed of light, where the numbers are 500 and 1000?
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05:54 tonsofpcs next thing you know, he's going to be rewriting Seasons of Love
05:57 Coderjoe don'tknowit
05:57 Coderjoe dangit spacebar
05:58 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: See, now yours is rebelling too
06:00 Coderjoe well, i am also hobbled by vnc
06:00 Coderjoe over ssh, over 3g
06:00 tehdark45 lol
06:00 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: Not manly enough. You need a satellite link in there.
06:01 Coderjoe i don't trust the hotel wifi
06:01 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, the problem is satillite isn't as common in the US as the UK :P
06:02 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: It's not exactly common here.
06:02 tehdark45 you have sky >.<
06:02 Monkeh|Lap Being uselessly slow, high latency, and expensive.
06:02 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: That's TV..
06:02 Coderjoe sat is plenty common in very rural areas
06:02 tehdark45 you could still use it in theory
06:02 Coderjoe ah crap
06:03 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I.. no.
06:03 Coderjoe train. at least I think it is. haven't heard a horn, but the rumbling sounds familiar
06:03 tehdark45 if i was in the milldle of nowhere, id A) gtfo, B) just settle for the old 56K
06:03 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Which would be nowhere near 56k.
06:04 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, yeah
06:04 Monkeh|Lap Ever used a 60 year old patchwork line over here?
06:04 Coderjoe not really a chance at 56k in rural podunk cable plant
06:04 tehdark45 i dont miss dial up
06:04 Coderjoe hell, good luck at 33.6
06:05 tehdark45 I got 44 most of the time in Africa
06:06 tehdark45 they had DSL, but telecomms is one choice, Telkom. And they are useless, so we stuck with 56k rather than bother with the headache
06:06 tehdark45 lol
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06:08 Coderjoe my spoon is too big
06:08 tehdark45 wut?
06:08 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: His spoon is too big. Obviously.
06:09 Coderjoe and bob is a banana
06:09 Monkeh|Lap BANANA?!
06:09 * Monkeh|Lap eats bob
06:10 tehdark45 But Coderjoe is in 'Merica, there is no such thing as too big :P
06:10 Coderjoe are you the queen of france?
06:10 tonsofpcs om nom nom
06:10 Coderjoe next up: has Coderjoe stroked out?
06:11 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, what are you noming on
06:11 tehdark45 i duno
06:11 tehdark45 has he?
06:11 Coderjoe let's ask him
06:11 tehdark45 errr....err.errrrrrr.....errrrrrrr
06:12 tehdark45 lol
06:12 Coderjoe more like bored at a hotel in Monroe and feeling silly
06:12 Coderjoe (no drugs involved)
06:13 Coderjoe (and that is Monroe, MI)
06:14 Coderjoe oh. that song
06:14 tehdark45 Sounds like the middle of nowhere
06:14 tehdark45 :P
06:17 tehdark45 i think you should follow my plan A Coderjoe
06:17 Coderjoe 5.87849981 × 1012 miles
06:17 Coderjoe er
06:17 Coderjoe 5.87849981 × 10^12 miles
06:18 Coderjoe that's another way to measure a year... perhaps
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06:25 Coderjoe it's a great big universe, and we're all really puny
06:25 Coderjoe we're just tiny little specks, about the size of Mickey Rooney
06:26 dr_jkl oh man
06:26 dr_jkl animaniacs
06:27 dr_jkl you get a ++ for that
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06:50 ajcc morning
06:52 Monkeh|Lap .. Oh, lord, I think my phone's going to remain turned off when I'm in GR: http://www.three.co.uk/Support/Roaming_and_international/Going_abroad_Pay_Monthly/Destination_Details?content_aid=1214306357859
06:52 BotSteve Title: Destination Details - Going abroad - Pay Monthly - Roaming & international - Support - Three
06:58 Coderjoe the telco: always finding ways to rape the "customer"
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07:01 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: £3/MB is just plain extortion. I manage to use about 50MB a month without even using the 3G (just background stuff, mail, etc, on the move)..
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07:02 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: At those prices I can ask them to unlock the phone and get a pay-as-you-go SIM in the states instead..
07:03 ajcc hmm, I thought EU passed laws on costs for calling abroad, maybe they're just for calling and texting? :/
07:04 Monkeh|Lap ajcc: Doesn't apply to roaming costs.
07:04 Monkeh|Lap ajcc: They're at the mercy of what US telcos charge. EU laws do not apply to them.
07:04 ajcc oh, :(
07:05 ajcc at least US land doesn't have the EU land's sinking ships
07:05 ajcc or wait, we both do :/
07:06 Monkeh|Lap Oh, hey, an app to get my unlock code.
07:07 ajcc :O
07:07 ajcc there's an app for that?
07:07 Monkeh|Lap There is.
07:07 Monkeh|Lap Not on crApple, though!
07:07 ajcc does it steal all your personal information?
07:07 Monkeh|Lap ajcc: Nope.
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07:08 ajcc so then it's not an app? ;)
07:08 lwq1996 hi
07:08 ajcc hello
07:09 Monkeh|Lap ajcc: It is an app. One written by a dev from XDA. :P
07:09 ajcc sorry, not into cells, what is XDA?
07:10 Monkeh|Lap ajcc: XDA is a gigantic forum for mobile software development.
07:10 Monkeh|Lap Most of the interesting and legally questionable stuff goes on there.
07:11 ajcc ok,
07:17 Monkeh|Lap So, which of the horrific providers over there in USia is best in the GR area?
07:23 ajcc heh, just watched 5 sec. of a video tribute to Karl Koch, and the first title said: username; clockdva, password; the hacker. And my first thought was Nope!, Karl used; hunter, hagbard, bensor or hedges as the password or username ;P
07:24 ajcc the book about him, The Cuckoo's Egg, is really really good
07:24 ajcc and the movies too, yep, there's two
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07:25 ajcc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_(film) not to be confused by the awful jim carry movie
07:25 BotSteve Title: 23 (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
07:26 ajcc http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0308449/ documentary about the guy who caught him
07:26 BotSteve Title: IMDb - The KGB, the Computer and Me (TV 1990)
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07:36 DruidicRifleman any one at the lab
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07:41 ajcc isn't it 2:40 at the lab?
07:43 MoxieMike yes
07:48 ajcc http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00dxjls/episodes/guide is this series any good?
07:48 BotSteve Title: BBC Four - The Story of Maths - Episode guide
07:50 Cprossu my eyes hurn and my fingers turned to 1M blocks
07:50 Cprossu HELPPPPPPpppp
07:51 MoxieMike ?
07:51 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Right, you can help me. :P
07:52 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: If I'm going to visit the lab, I'm going to need a SIM for my phone.
07:53 tehdark45 america is CDMA i believe
07:54 tehdark45 mainly at least
07:54 * Experimentonomen looks @ Cprossu
07:54 tehdark45 everyone looks @ Cprossu
07:55 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Well, then, I need whatever makes my phone work over there. :P
07:56 tehdark45 ummm
07:56 tehdark45 well if you wana actually call
07:56 tehdark45 dont use ATT
07:56 tehdark45 lolol
07:57 tehdark45 monkeh, what protcol is your phone?
07:57 tehdark45 GSM? CDMA?
07:57 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap,
07:58 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: It's a Galaxy S II. You name it, it does it.
07:58 tehdark45 ok what network then
07:58 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: ..
07:59 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: One which is not available in the US?
07:59 tehdark45 has Monkeh|Lap  been a good android user and rooted it and romd it?
07:59 Monkeh|Lap Hence the utterly ridiculous roaming charges I want to avoid.
07:59 tehdark45 :P
07:59 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Of course I bloody have, I don't buy extremely powerful computers to be told 'sorry, you can't do that'
07:59 Monkeh|Lap Especially pocket sized ones.
07:59 tehdark45 lol
07:59 tehdark45 umm
08:00 Coderjoe Monkeh|Lap: for gsm, i think there is only one or two choices: tmobile and at&t. unless they were allowed to merge ( havent kept up)
08:00 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: Do they offer SIM cards without phones and contracts attached?
08:01 Coderjoe TMO may
08:01 Coderjoe i'd have to ask a friend
08:03 lwq1996 ok guys im going to bed
08:03 tehdark45 Cya Lee
08:03 tehdark45 Coderjoe, deal fell through
08:03 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: Looks like they do.
08:04 Coderjoe tehdark45: awesome
08:04 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: But it looks like they only operate with contracts. That's a no-go..
08:05 tehdark45 i know canada does pay as you go. But thats canada
08:05 tehdark45 :P
08:05 tehdark45 rogers*
08:05 Coderjoe http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-phone/T-Mobile-Prepaid-SIM-Activation-Kit
08:05 BotSteve Title: T-Mobile SIM Card Activation Kit | T-Mobile
08:06 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, does this help?
08:06 tehdark45 http://www.mtn.co.za/FindaPlan/Pages/PPOverview_v091.aspx?ppg=Pay%20As%20You%20Go
08:07 Monkeh|Lap Coderjoe: That site is, as usual, a maze.
08:08 Coderjoe that site is prepay, pay as you go. you just need the sim first, afaik
08:08 tehdark45 which?
08:08 Coderjoe i've only ever had analog and cdma phones
08:09 Coderjoe the prepaid-phones.tmobile.com link
08:09 tehdark45 oh ok
08:09 tehdark45 yeah you just pop the sim in
08:09 tehdark45 and assuming it is not locked
08:09 tehdark45 which it probably isnt being the UK
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08:10 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Uh, actually, it is locked at present. As are basically all phones over here.
08:10 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, when are you coming to this side of the world?
08:10 Monkeh|Lap Thankfully this is correctable.
08:11 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I'm not even sure I am yet.
08:11 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, oh I thought only merica did that
08:11 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: No, everyone does.
08:11 tehdark45 not asia
08:11 tehdark45 :P
08:11 Coderjoe nor middle east
08:11 Coderjoe rather common for people to have multiple sims there
08:11 tehdark45 and africa
08:12 Coderjoe or so i heard
08:12 tehdark45 south at least
08:12 Monkeh|Lap And how many of them have top of the line, $800 phones? :P
08:12 Coderjoe i should probably get to sleep. gotta get up at 0730-500
08:13 Monkeh|Lap The only way people can afford phones over here is contracts on locked phones because all the decent phones cost a bomb.
08:13 tehdark45 If I was going to come, it would probably be around the my-aug time
08:13 tehdark45 since that is summer
08:13 tehdark45 and i either do classes or get a job
08:14 tehdark45 but
08:14 tehdark45 i would also like to become canadian
08:14 tehdark45 so i have to be in the country for x days/year
08:15 tehdark45 then again, my dad spends weeks overseas, so i guess I could
08:15 Coderjoe and withit being 0314-0500, i have about 4 hours to rest
08:15 tehdark45 who needs it
08:16 tehdark45 :P
08:16 tehdark45 also getting here would mean 4 days on a greyhound. That would be fun
08:17 Coderjoe you sling around a 15lb boulder between 72 and 324 times in the span of 4 hours...
08:18 Coderjoe and that doesn't count warmup
08:18 tehdark45 Coderjoe has gone delirious
08:18 tehdark45 :P
08:18 Coderjoe bowling 6 games
08:19 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap has been taken away from the chavs
08:19 tehdark45 :P
08:20 Monkeh|Lap No, I made the chavs move away. :P
08:20 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap is now a chav
08:20 Coderjoe er, 126 times max
08:20 tehdark45 he will steal the copper from tgg things
08:20 tehdark45 :P
08:21 Coderjoe no idea how i got 324
08:21 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: No, just their cap stocks. :P
08:21 tehdark45 lol
08:21 tehdark45 and you mean banks?
08:22 Monkeh|Lap No, stocks. Of little caps. :P
08:22 tehdark45 no just take the MMC on the plane back with you
08:22 tehdark45 :P
08:23 tehdark45 it will fit
08:23 MoxieMike in the overhead compartment?
08:24 tehdark45 oh yeah easy ;)
08:27 MoxieMike ok
08:27 MoxieMike nice plane then
08:28 tehdark45 yep
08:28 Monkeh|Lap Oh, yeah, 737-200, real fancy. :P
08:28 tehdark45 no
08:29 tehdark45 your going on a Learjet
08:29 tehdark45 :P
08:29 * Experimentonomen listens to mid 90's eurocrap :P
08:29 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, try 90's grunge
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08:46 DruidicRifleman http://www.americanbladesmith.com/ipboard/index.php?/gallery/image/416-king-of-kings-damascus-dagger-raymond-rybar-master-smith/ WOW!!!
08:46 BotSteve Title: American Bladesmith Society Forum -> Gallery -> Viewing image -> King of Kings Damascus Dagger- Raymond Rybar, Master Smith
08:47 MoxieMike that's hot
08:49 Katemonster i'm so over damascus blades.
08:50 MoxieMike zombietools.net/tools
08:50 MoxieMike http://www.zombietools.net/tools
08:50 BotSteve Title: Zombie Tools | Weapons Catalog | Zombie-Killing Machetes, Swords, Blades
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08:52 Katemonster lol, meth-addicted cannibals
08:52 Katemonster straight out of Lucifer's Hammer
08:53 * Katemonster is listening to Toccata & Fugue D Minor
09:05 * Experimentonomen listens to Masterboy :P
09:07 Katemonster Experimentonomen!
09:08 Experimentonomen giten morgen kate
09:08 Katemonster are you P. Albertsson?
09:08 Experimentonomen nope
09:09 Experimentonomen he is eg_lappy and electricguy and electricguy_lab
09:10 Experimentonomen you do not have me on your facebook or other social media
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09:11 Katemonster okay
09:11 Katemonster i asked who it was and i think kelly told me, then i forgot except i remembered it started with an E
09:12 Experimentonomen besides if u saw a pic of me, u'd never return to this channel ever again, in fear i'd be here
09:12 Experimentonomen :P
09:12 Katemonster HAH
09:12 Katemonster okay
09:12 * Katemonster beat solitaire and will now go sleep
09:13 Katemonster night night
09:13 * Experimentonomen thinks about bed too despite beeing 10 in the morning
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09:24 Electricguy morning
09:26 Sgt_Lemming sigh, fucking hate when someone thinks it's a valid arguing point to insult you
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10:15 MadManMarkAu Haha, I was wondering why my AVR was so slow at accessing my SD card. Forgot I had it on the slowest SPI bus clock speed for debugging :P
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10:16 * MadManMarkAu has made an AVR wave file player
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10:17 MadManMarkAu First tune I play? Yoshi's Island :D
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11:19 Electricguy a lot of people have surely seen this already, but it's damn cool :P http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Leserbriefe/Bruegmann-Digital-Roehren-Clock/Digital-Roehrenuhr.htm
11:19 BotSteve Title: Digitale Nixieröhrenuhr von Friedhelm Bruegmann
11:23 tesla4d It'd be a lot cooler if i could read German. On the other hand, I *have* been meaning to learn....
11:24 einball Electricguy: yep, in reality :)
11:24 Electricguy it's very cool when using google chrome that translates the page eutomatically XD
11:24 Electricguy just post the link in google translate
11:24 einball Not, google chrome is absolutely NOT cool :P
11:24 einball It's quite horrible
11:24 Electricguy i used Opera before, got tired of it's buggyness XD
11:25 einball Why are Chris' videos soo long?  :)
11:25 Electricguy so now i'm using chrome with some addons and another skin so it almost looks like opera and acts exactly how i want :P
11:25 einball Electricguy: Well, chrome is cool. Fast and (almost) lightweight
11:26 Electricguy chrome is faster than Opera, FF, IE and all other browsers i've tried and it takes less RAM och doesn't load down the CPU as much
11:27 Electricguy that site translated to english http://translate.google.se/translate?hl=sv&amp;sl=de&amp;tl=en&amp;u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jogis-roehrenbude.de%2FLeserbriefe%2FBruegmann-Digital-Roehren-Clock%2FDigital-Roehrenuhr.htm
11:27 BotSteve Title: Google Översätt
11:27 einball Well, it does not take less ram. but it feels faster because it splits the tabs and handles them as seperate processes and so the memory management is a lot faster
11:28 Electricguy it uses much less RAM than FF at least
11:28 Electricguy cause what i used FF for it totally choked my computer for some reason... o_O
11:28 einball uhm .. ~20 Megabyte per tab.
11:28 Electricguy Opera and chrome doesn't, but Opera got some problems with flash and stuff
11:29 einball Yes! That's because the whole FF process has a huuuge memory consumption
11:29 einball and chrome splits the memory in tabs and threads/processes
11:29 Electricguy but then it still would use the exact same amount of memory
11:30 einball yes, but it is very faster due to the internal priorzation
11:30 Electricguy but for me it doesn't.. maybe it's my Chrome install that magic or something, cause it doesn't even use half the amount of RAM
11:31 einball o_o
11:32 Electricguy oh, and firefox and Ustream does'nt match... XD
11:32 * tesla4d wonders what the *actual* difference between a desktop motherboard and server motherboard is.
11:32 einball they work quite well :P
11:32 einball at least they didnt for me
11:33 einball tesla4d: a server mobo takes ECC and registered ram
11:33 Electricguy firefox goes into some memory runaway when running Ustream. freezes up after about 2 days cause it fills the RAM. strange
11:33 einball and often PCIx
11:33 einball oh lol :)
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11:33 einball Well, i used it until V3.x.x
11:33 einball then i switched
11:35 tesla4d einball: So, it's pretty much defined by memory and I/O support? I keep looking - for fun, mind you, I don't have the budget for it - for motherboards that support multiple i5 or i7 processors. The only multiple-CPU boards I ever see are in the "server" section.
11:36 einball Try Tyan
11:36 einball ouh and the only desktop motherboard I know wat the Skulltrail plattform
11:37 Electricguy server mobos got more RAM slots, more CPU sockets, more I/O and stuff. generally
11:37 einball And It is not only about the memory. They often have other chipsets so they support for example a preboot environment or support more non consumer hardware like raidcontrollers,
11:38 einball etc
11:38 Cprossu poor producerbill
11:38 Electricguy yeah. the mobo out of the Sun server i scrapped had a total of 25 chipstes XD
11:38 Electricguy and 64bit PCI slots
11:39 Electricguy Cprossu, whutz
11:39 einball haha, killerargument .. "It doesn't fit" :D
11:39 tesla4d Oh, man. it has been too long.
11:39 tesla4d Last time I built a system, I was using scrounged parts, and a 486 processor. It's so, so different now.
11:40 Cprossu Electricguy watching the captains blog, bill was being harassed heh
11:40 Electricguy Captain's Blog 1-6-12 Helicopter Fun and Photonicinduction
11:41 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 1-7-12 Hard Drive Dominos and Camera Cableing http://youtu.be/fBAbQb9dp7E
11:41 Cprossu not that one lol
11:41 einball tesla4d: It's not different. It just really sucks more
11:41 einball :D
11:41 Electricguy questionmark..
11:41 Electricguy i can't make questionmark!!!!
11:41 Electricguy FFFFUUUUUU
11:41 Cprossu ^ the one BotSteve just mentioned.
11:41 einball Take one from me Electricguy: ?
11:41 Cprossu FUCK!!
11:42 Electricguy weird. unplugged the KB and plugged it in again, works now
11:42 Cprossu just saw something I have to redo in the minecraft map
11:42 Electricguy funny, that captains blog haven't shown up on my youtube page o_O
11:42 einball hehe
11:43 Cprossu that's because youtube fucking sucks now
11:43 einball Now iam like "DAMNIT I WANT THAT ROUTER"
11:43 Electricguy yeah
11:43 tesla4d I keep getting bizarre cravings. I would LOVE some brussels sprouts right now. I hate those, too, but I need it right now.
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11:44 einball Well, Chris took some drugs yesterday. At least he looks like that :D
11:44 Cprossu bill is awesome heh
11:45 einball Very funny this episode :D
11:47 Electricguy LOL yeah XD
11:47 Cprossu SHIT!
11:47 Electricguy COME ON OMNIDOG!! XD
11:47 Cprossu we filled up electronics with shit
11:47 Cprossu now it's clean!
11:47 Cprossu FUCKKKKKKKKKkkkkk
11:47 einball hilarous
11:47 Cprossu they better not have emptied the wood room of wood too
11:48 einball by the way: PCI fits in PCIx
11:49 einball They won't fill the rack? Damn, I'd die for 42 of those 1U Servers :(
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11:56 Cprossu that explains chris, he was huffing epoxy
11:56 Cprossu lol
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11:56 einball Cprossu: he has been like that before :D
11:58 einball But I like the project.
11:59 tesla4d Chris is so excitable in this video.
12:00 einball OMG THEY HAVE MINIDISK RECORDERS!!!! (Been searching them for AGES!!)
12:03 * einball bounces
12:08 einball Hmm, I think IP Cams would be cooler. Or at least a star topology
12:08 einball The amount of wiring is insane if they continue like that
12:23 tesla4d The amount of cable running through the building is getting kind of worrisome.
12:23 tesla4d Like, it just keeps coming.
12:23 tesla4d Are they ever going to stop pulling more cable? Or will they eventually wallpaper the place with cat5?
12:24 CaptainNiobe that could be intsresting wallart lol
12:24 CaptainNiobe interesting*
12:26 einball tesla4d: IP cameras would clearly make that cheaper than the CAT5
12:26 einball CAT5 = 39€ / 100m
12:26 tesla4d Yeah.
12:27 iSasha Yeah, but most of that cable is donated
12:27 tesla4d Honestly, it's more the "Geek Group Cable Tray" system that freaks me out.
12:27 iSasha What's so freaky about it?
12:30 tesla4d Well, for one thing, Steve's asking for more bridle rings. So they're doubling up now. There's got to be a more efficient system. And besides that, there's trouble with making holes in your walls to run that many cables. Like, fire code things.
12:31 iSasha I would use an under table cable tray instead...
12:32 einball It will get also quite complicated
12:32 einball and you cannot distribute by a switch
12:32 iSasha Man, you should see datacenter...
12:33 iSasha *see a datacenter
12:33 tesla4d Yeah, but datacenters are made to be that way. They don't improvise the way the Geek Group does.
12:33 einball I've been to computing centers
12:33 einball And they have a double floor setup
12:34 einball especially to solve that problem
12:34 iSasha Ok, but tell me this: how are ethernet cables going to start a fire?
12:34 einball It's not about starting a fire. It's about distributing it
12:34 iSasha Aren't they fire retardant?
12:35 einball burning cables are no fun thing
12:35 tesla4d It's not that they *start* fires. It's that punching holes in your walls lets the fire bypass fire control measures by just following the cable runs.
12:35 einball CAT5? not really
12:35 tesla4d They turn into burny, melty doom pretty quickly unless you get the good stuff.
12:35 * tesla4d speaks from experience.
12:36 iSasha Oh yeah, no, you're right. I stuck a 3 inch piece of cable under a jet torch, and melted all the plastic off within a minute.
12:36 * Cprossu hates pvc jacketed cat5
12:37 einball mmmh plastic smoke
12:37 einball so healthy and fresh :)
12:38 einball oh and 3,5ampere per wire is not quite a small current
12:38 einball for standard CAT5
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12:40 tesla4d I hope that's not per camera.
12:40 einball bill just said "I will loose 3.5 Amps for each pin
12:40 einball I'd never ever distribute more than 500mA over those cables
12:42 tesla4d Well, he *meant* per pair. So that's four cameras per cable. that's like, twenty-four cables for all of the cameras they want.
12:42 tesla4d And they'll all run through that same hole in the side of the NOC
12:42 einball Hot thing :)
12:42 Cprossu glad to see that jeff managed to get ahold of some 939 a64 x2's
12:44 Cprossu einball that makes sense, 8 pins ~ 4A, since only 2 populated it meant he had an amp max right?
12:45 Cprossu buttt
12:45 Cprossu 1 is ground
12:45 Cprossu no that doesn't make sense
12:45 Cprossu 4 pair, grounds included
12:45 Cprossu either way whatever
12:45 einball Cprossu: I've been talking about 500amps per cable :)
12:45 Cprossu *ma
12:45 einball ops, yep :P
12:46 Cprossu I am tired and need to goto sleep
12:46 einball :)
12:46 Cprossu actually I have two choices
12:47 Cprossu 1) fix shit wrong with the minecraft lab that I noticed today in the captains blog or 2) goto sleep
12:48 Cprossu he was running so quickly I finally got a good reference of the mdh-cafe-av storage-robotics staircase
12:48 einball 2)
12:48 einball 1) Is not the right choice. you will make mistakes
12:49 Cprossu that's what I was thinking but because of your reason I even asked
12:49 tesla4d Is this on the geek group minecraft server, or somewhere else?
12:49 Cprossu ^ does that even make sense?!
12:49 Cprossu currently it's hosted above my head tesla4d
12:49 tesla4d ?
12:49 einball uhm not quite Cprossu
12:49 tesla4d Yeah, you need sleep
12:49 einball at least not for me :)
12:50 Cprossu tesla4d: 72.222.196.252:25564
12:50 tesla4d Hey, thanks!
12:50 Cprossu don't forget to visit the conference room
12:50 Cprossu to add your name
12:51 Cprossu oh yeah and FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THINGS happy,
12:51 Cprossu do not mess with the big machine made of obsidian out back that has a metric fuckton of tnt in it
12:52 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: you should join tesla4d
12:53 Cprossu heh
12:53 Cprossu night all
12:53 Cprossu it's 90%-95% done now
12:53 einball n8 Cprossu
12:54 Cprossu tesla4d let me know what you think of it too, feel free to evaluate any changes that may need to be made to make it more accurate.
12:55 tesla4d Oh, I don't know a damn thing about accuracy. At least not yet. May or may not be trying to intern at the lab later.
13:00 einball Traveling to the US is quite a pain -_-
13:03 iSasha Where do you live?
13:03 einball EU
13:03 einball Germany
13:03 iSasha Ah, that's even further than me!
13:03 einball It's not about the range. It's about the bureaucracy
13:04 iSasha Huh?
13:04 iSasha What bureaucracy?
13:04 einball Visa
13:04 einball Maybe a greencard if you want to stay longer
13:04 einball Here in the EU I'am able to travel anywhere .. france, germany, etc ..
13:04 iSasha Hahahahahaha... lol. Kinda sucks for you...
13:05 iSasha But yeah, I know, I also live in europe
13:05 einball I thought about doing my internship in the US, because I got kicked out of the Melbourne program I applied to in my university
13:07 einball And after my studies I'd like to do the work&travel thing
13:07 iSasha I was also thinking of doing of some sort of internship.. but going there is quite expensive.
13:08 einball True. I've been to Berlin with 300€ per month and it was quite cool. Iam not that expensive :P
13:09 wannabe1987 parently i've had internet issues overnight :/
13:10 iSasha wannabe1987... you're lucky... approximately 1/2 of the time my internet is unuseable...
13:10 einball I need to do a practical semester somewhere. I don't want to do that in germany because I don't like that country
13:10 wannabe1987 true...
13:10 wannabe1987 come to merica
13:10 iSasha Buuut... don't you come from there?
13:10 einball iSasha: true ;)
13:11 einball wannabe1987: Winning a greencard is quite impossible
13:11 wannabe1987 thats what i'm told by others that want to come....
13:11 wannabe1987 but couldn't you get a student visa?
13:11 * wannabe1987 has no clue about these things
13:12 einball No. To get such kind of visa I have to study. But due to the terms of my university I have to "work"
13:12 * iSasha doesn't know a thing either... however I don't need to know anything because I have a us passport!
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13:12 wannabe1987 work?
13:13 einball Also Iam not allowed to work anywhere with a student visa
13:13 wannabe1987 i have a us passport too!
13:13 iSasha Well, wannabe1987, don't you live in the us?
13:13 wannabe1987 thats right....jessie (from indonesia) is the same
13:13 einball It's like a job for one semester
13:13 wannabe1987 yes
13:13 iSasha Soo... that is not that hard to understand
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13:13 wannabe1987 most americans don't have a passport
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13:14 einball So, I'd need a work permit.
13:14 wannabe1987 i have one b/c i went to haiti cuz we adopted, then to england for school
13:14 iSasha Most? You mean, uhm, everyone excluding immigrants?
13:15 einball Most because most of them never left the Us
13:15 wannabe1987 most don't go to canada or mexico.
13:15 wannabe1987 most don't fly to europe
13:15 wannabe1987 or go to africa, asia, or south america
13:15 wannabe1987 or stralia
13:16 iSasha Yeah, and most people don't go from europe to michagon...
13:16 wannabe1987 most (these days) are too poor to buy a passport, they cost like $100
13:16 wannabe1987 iSasha: now with tgg here, i dunno :P
13:16 iSasha :D
13:16 iSasha O rly? Afaik I got mine free...
13:17 einball Well, would also be cool to work at the geekgroup. But it is a nonprofit group, so I don't know if that will be fine with the regulations here
13:17 wannabe1987 yeah.  and it costs money to have it renewed every 10 years too (10 years for adults, 5 for kids)
13:17 iSasha Work, as in, get paid?
13:18 einball That would be great. At least not to starve to death :d
13:19 iSasha I have a feeling chris won't be too happy :/
13:19 einball True
13:19 einball So I think, I have to look for another company
13:19 iSasha Keags heating and cooling
13:20 einball XD
13:20 einball Yeah .. I could fix the heating problems :P
13:23 wannabe1987 you search facebook for "keags heating and cooling" and the third result (as a web search) is the cb "keag's sucks and batman rules"  lol
13:24 einball It's a little bit tricky: My parents don't have the money to support me. So I have a job. But if I travel to another country, I have to pay the flight and the cost of living. That can be accomplished by a job, but tgg e.g. is a non profit organisation so any payment is not really possible. The consequence: einball starves to death. D'oh!
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13:26 iSasha dude, I feel so sorry for you einball
13:27 einball And ffs I don't want to support any company!
13:27 iSasha Heh, someone should make them a 'website' :D
13:27 einball Keags?
13:27 iSasha Yeah
13:27 iSasha You seen their wikipedia article?
13:27 einball no
13:27 iSasha http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keag's_Heating_and_Cooling
13:27 BotSteve Title: Keag's Heating and Cooling - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
13:28 einball lol :D
13:28 wannabe1987|tgg page has been deleted
13:28 wannabe1987 there
13:28 wannabe1987 much better
13:29 iSasha Verb, to Keag :to delay a project without reason or explanation. "Looks like they're going to Keag us... it's on back order even though the stock count reports 253 in stock...
13:30 wannabe1987 it was deleted on the 4th....
13:30 wannabe1987 by "nwalinWiki"
13:30 iSasha Well I can still see it for some reason
13:31 wannabe1987 maybe your cache (?) hasn't been updated?
13:31 iSasha I just googled them, first result
13:31 wannabe1987 odd
13:32 Electricguy oh hi wannabe1987 :)
13:32 wannabe1987 hi
13:33 kamelbulle-andro Vi electricguy
13:33 wannabe1987 says it was deleted cuz its an attack page :P
13:33 iSasha Let's change that :P
13:34 Electricguy what's deleted?
13:34 kamelbulle-andro Hi*
13:34 iSasha Keag's heating and cooling wikipedia page
13:34 Electricguy works fine for me
13:34 iSasha Same
13:35 kamelbulle worked for me until i refreshed the page
13:35 CaptainNiobe i've never been to that page until now and i got:
13:35 CaptainNiobe This page has been deleted. The deletion and move log for the page are provided below for reference.  16:35, 4 January 2012 NawlinWiki (talk | contribs) deleted "Keag's Heating and Cooling" ‎ (G10: Attack page or negative unsourced BLP)
13:35 wannabe1987 thats what i got
13:35 CaptainNiobe far as i'm concerned, keags deserves a bad reputation.
13:36 iSasha Yeah, I was thinking of making them a 'website' linking to all of the videos where chris mentions them ;)
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13:37 Electricguy still works for me
13:37 CaptainNiobe teh bad thing is, it's not just they never got tgg done... it's that the work they *did* do is so damned shoddy...
13:38 iSasha So the more reason to warn others
13:38 Electricguy a printscreen for those of you who can't see it http://i.imgur.com/6JRQO.png
13:38 iSasha ^ hey I was just about to do that :P
13:39 CaptainNiobe agreed, but i wouldn't attack them as an attack... :) "caveat empeor", i believe the latin phrase is, for "let the buyer beware".
13:39 wannabe1987 lol
13:40 CaptainNiobe HAHA! thanks, eg... i think it's clear a tgg follower did that... :-\ looks bad for tgg :-\
13:40 iSasha I have a feeling that chris did this himself!
13:40 iSasha bbl¨
13:41 CaptainNiobe i would hope not, no matter how pissed off he (ad everyone else) is...
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13:42 wannabe1987 did what,t he article?  says nothing about tgg.
13:43 CaptainNiobe is there not a group called the better business bureau over there?
13:43 wannabe1987 yes
13:43 CaptainNiobe chris needs to be contacting them.
13:46 wannabe1987 yes, i know.
13:46 wannabe1987 brb reboot
13:46 * CaptainNiobe wonders if she might do a proper wiki page on keag's, yet be sure to include the issues for tgg in it
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14:06 BotSteve Cookies, Sandwiches, Skittles, Oh my!
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14:24 MoxieMike ooh, sandwiches...mmmm
14:33 BitViper bah, body is claiming noms emergency, but seems unwilling to cooperate in solving issue
14:34 MoxieMike ya, mine too
14:34 MoxieMike the computer is also refusing to make a sandwich
14:34 einball1 uurgs
14:34 einball1 My life just lost some minutes :D
14:34 einball1 *lifetime shortened just some
14:35 BitViper i lose a minute every 59 seconds
14:35 einball1 Well ... Desoldering a SMD with 2k°C gas flame ... winwin :D
14:36 einball1 and then taking a deeeep breath =)
14:37 BitViper did the part survive ?
14:37 einball1 nope
14:37 einball1 No surviving parts intended
14:38 einball1 Just for size comparison
14:38 einball1 http://www.abload.de/img/img_759027xpx.jpg
14:38 BitViper should have made video
14:38 iSasha Yeah, I don't usually have surviving parts when I extract them from PCBs
14:42 einball1 I couldn't find my other Atmega SMD
14:43 einball1 So I had to desolder my current project
14:43 einball1 :P
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14:54 iSasha I am just amazed that VLC is the only player on my PC that can play captain's blogs normally in HD
14:57 einball1 huh? you download the episodes?
14:57 iSasha Yeah
14:57 MoxieMike not many programs can play a FLV file
14:58 iSasha *mp4
14:58 MoxieMike the downloader i use generates an flv
14:58 iSasha KeepVid.com ;)
14:58 einball1 the new youtube videos are taken in mp4 :o
14:58 einball1 you can also use a chrome extension
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14:59 MoxieMike i use ant video downloader
14:59 einball1 Chrome YouTube Downloader2.6.2
14:59 iSasha Yeah, I need to find an easier method to download the videos. Any automatic ideas?
15:00 einball1 works very well. adds a "download" button next to the Like or Dislike
15:00 iSasha Hmm... interesting
15:00 einball1 and automaticly downloads the resolution you want (dropdown menu or you just click the button, then it will download the highes quality)
15:00 MoxieMike ant puts a download button in the firefox toolbar....should work with chrome as well
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15:01 einball1 and you can say you want the flv or the mp4
15:01 einball1 or even mp3
15:01 einball1 :)
15:01 iSasha Downloading it now ;)
15:01 MoxieMike ant will download the resolution being displayed or give a dropdown with size options...haven't tried to get HD vid off youtube with it yet
15:02 injektion Do scsi based dell servers have a scsi controller on the backplane?
15:04 Electricguy lol! dog humor :P http://www.n0.se/f/n/05a67_1325959134916.png
15:05 iSasha Is yt down?
15:05 Electricguy nope
15:05 CaptainNiobe homepage is showing for me
15:05 iSasha Http/1.1 Service Unavailable
15:07 JA12 works normally here
15:09 * CaptainNiobe gets a blank page on youtube
15:10 * einball1 puts itself into sentry mode
15:10 CaptainNiobe and NOW i get the service unavailable message
15:10 einball1 iSasha killed youtube :(
15:10 BitViper i got the blank yt page too, havent retried, busy beating crap out of my mc client
15:10 BitViper no it was photonic that killed yt
15:10 CaptainNiobe that was yesterday :P
15:10 einball1 lol
15:11 BitViper oh, only temporary eh
15:11 BitViper =)
15:11 iSasha Wait, since when is DealExtreme sketchy?
15:11 CaptainNiobe ?
15:11 iSasha On the captains blog...
15:12 einball1 I need a good comcoder :(
15:12 einball1 I want to make videos ... blblbl
15:12 CaptainNiobe ohhh... agcc went to pay for something and must have picked the wrong payment option, because he got an email asking for the stuff chris mentios (i swear chris is reading agcc's email)...
15:13 iSasha Oh yeah, I asked about that in the forums
15:13 iSasha http://club.dealextreme.com/forums/Forums.dx/threadid.1065487?to=last
15:13 BotSteve Title: What's with the credit card fraud? – DealExtreme Forum
15:15 CaptainNiobe i don't like their responses so much... lol... is it difficult to prove via phone and bank checks?
15:16 injektion Dell doesn't work even after replacing the backplane
15:16 CaptainNiobe though i will say they're right about using paypal... every time i use my credit card online, it's through paypal... if the company i want to buy fro doesn't have paypal, i don't do business with them, pure and simple...
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15:17 NeWtoz anyone price out the best deal on cat5?
15:18 injektion So today I've confirmed that the SCSI backplane in the PowerEdge was not the issue, and the 13W3 monitor adapter I have does not fit the SPARCstation 20
15:23 Electricguy HAHA! XD win :P http://www.n0.se/f/n/7518d_tumblr_lvwfu5yxfn1r3k73wo1_500.jpg
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15:25 BotSteve Ponko is credit to team!
15:25 Ponko yessirry bob
15:26 NeWtoz meh
15:27 Ponko aww poor NeWtoz
15:27 Ponko well i think my other lions friends killed it for you
15:27 Ponko proclaiming they will win it all and BLOW OUT the saints
15:28 Ponko i fucking love it when i get to rub it in there stupid faces
15:28 NeWtoz anyone who was thinking knew if anything, it would be a really close game
15:28 Ponko but at the end
15:28 NeWtoz most people I knew were predicting within 3
15:28 Ponko it wasn't
15:28 Ponko heck i'd of liked to see the Lions win
15:29 Ponko but in less of a Stafford to Johnson EVERY PLAY
15:29 Ponko sure there were a few others but that was the most prominent
15:29 Ponko still at the end of the day a great season
15:29 NeWtoz Young was getting a few, but stafford was either overthrowing or underthrowing him
15:30 NeWtoz it was a good season
15:30 Ponko but it was mainly to CJ
15:30 NeWtoz indeed
15:30 NeWtoz not bad for 3 years of overhaul
15:31 Ponko like the 49ers were in the 80s
15:31 NeWtoz and finally stafford finished a season
15:31 Ponko but without the 4 rings
15:31 Ponko yeah the proclaimed injury prone Stafford didn't get hurt
15:33 Ponko well least they had more light than my house does right now >_>
15:34 Ponko you a Sparky NeWtoz
15:34 NeWtoz ?
15:36 Ponko an electrian
15:36 Ponko sorry
15:36 Ponko electrician
15:36 NeWtoz nope
15:36 Ponko fuuu forgot how to spell it
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15:38 Ponko ah here's an electrician
15:42 Ponko NeWtoz: did the commentary go out in that game?
15:43 NeWtoz no
15:44 Ponko well just watching an Association Football game on ITV and uh the commentary was off for 8 mins
15:45 Vladdeh it's itv, what do you expect?
15:45 Ponko i thought i was gonna do my own commentary for the entire game
15:45 Ponko i did it for the heck of it at first
15:46 Ponko lol Vladdeh
15:46 Ponko where you from again
15:48 Vladdeh worcestershire :)
15:49 NeWtoz sauce :)
15:49 Ponko ahh right
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15:49 Ponko anywhere near worcester?
15:50 Vladdeh north, midway between worcs and birmingham
15:50 Ponko and btw NeWtoz its pronouced Wusster
15:50 Ponko ah ok
15:51 Ponko wait you near Redditch?
15:51 Ponko because i went to a football game there yesterday
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15:52 Vladdeh quite close :)
15:52 CaptainNiobe remind me to type /part instead of /quit from now on... *headdesk*
15:52 Vladdeh just north of bromsgrove
15:52 Ponko ah ok
15:52 Vladdeh you a local too then?
15:52 Ponko nah
15:52 NeWtoz CaptainNiobe, you should type /part instead of /quite from now on
15:52 Ponko from Luton
15:53 CaptainNiobe LOL!!! thanks, NewToz! :P i'm trying to fix up my own channel, damned thing isn't giving me perminant ops...
15:53 Ponko you on fb Vladdeh?
15:53 Vladdeh don't do facebook at all
15:53 Ponko ah ok
15:53 Vladdeh nor twitter
15:53 NeWtoz good man
15:54 Vladdeh IRC or steam :)
15:54 CaptainNiobe irc
15:54 CaptainNiobe oh, darn, nvm... *is slow tonight* lol
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16:07 injektion I need to make a static free work surface
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16:12 Kaytee oh wow
16:13 Kaytee type "b" in address bar, fist suggestion is beeradvocate
16:13 Kaytee *first
16:13 * Kaytee has become a beer snob :<
16:13 * injektion doesn't like beer
16:17 egrsteve|lurking morning all
16:17 CaptainNiobe morning
16:21 NeWtoz egrsteve|lurking, do you know of a good decently priced place to buy cat5e?
16:22 NeWtoz boxes (for you) obviously
16:23 Kaytee NeWtoz: buy a big spool of it
16:23 Kaytee stick the ends on yourself
16:23 Kaytee anywhere you buy it, super cheap compared to buying cables
16:23 Kaytee with the ends already on
16:23 NeWtoz I'm wanting to buy a spool/box of it for TGG
16:23 Kaytee how much?
16:23 NeWtoz not for myself
16:24 NeWtoz price doesn't matter, but I'd like to not pay premium for it.
16:24 Kaytee no, how much cable
16:25 egrsteve|lurking 100ft
16:25 egrsteve|lurking *1000ft
16:25 NeWtoz yeah
16:25 NeWtoz I could search around for deals, was just wondering if someone already knew of a good place
16:25 Kaytee http://www.amazon.com/Outdoor-Direct-Burial-Waterproof-350MHz/dp/B002WPSH42 free shipping, fairly low price
16:25 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: CAT5E, CMXT Outdoor / Direct Burial, Waterproof Tape, 350MHz, Solid, 24 AWG, Black, 1000 ft, Spool: Electronics
16:26 Kaytee the one over on the side has free shipping, rather
16:26 NeWtoz I don't think tgg needs such premium cat5e
16:26 egrsteve|lurking we have had a couple nice boxes from monoprice
16:27 egrsteve|lurking http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=105&amp;cp_id=10233#1023303
16:27 BotSteve Title: Cat 5 Network Cables - 1000ft Bulk Cable
16:27 Kaytee oh hey, I keep forgetting about monoprice
16:27 egrsteve|lurking 80$ a box there
16:28 Kaytee usually hear about them in terms of A/V stuff, and I ALWAYS make my own cables for audio gear
16:28 NeWtoz aww, they don't have pink
16:28 Kaytee which I can do for cheaper than buying cable from monoprice
16:28 Kaytee and cable that'll take more abuse at that
16:29 egrsteve|lurking I make my own AV cables too, but I use Switchcraft/ Nutrik ect connectors
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16:31 Kaytee egrsteve|lurking: three things matter in audio plugs: durability, corrosion resistance, and connectors not made of multiple metals
16:32 Kaytee gold plated is worse than straight tin
16:32 egrsteve|lurking agreed
16:32 Kaytee which I find really amusing because gold plated connectors get sold at a crazy premium
16:33 egrsteve|lurking there are 2 common platings gold and tin with a brass connector
16:33 egrsteve|lurking but gold is better becasue it's gold
16:35 * egrsteve|lurking activats lurk mode
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16:47 iSasha STEEEVE!! Your cable thingy is epic!
16:48 iSasha I must admit, it took me a while to learn, but it works every time I've tried it as of yet egrsteve|lurking
16:56 roadran422|zZz xD
16:56 roadran422|zZz I still don't know how...
16:56 iSasha It's a piece of cake
16:56 roadran422 ... lol
17:01 iSasha It's simple. Make a loop. Then, take the cable, turn it inside out, then give it to your other hand. Now coil it normally. Now turn it inside out. Then just repeat it over and over.
17:04 NeWtoz http://sewelldirect.com/Bulk-Cat5e-Cable-1000-ft-Dark-Grey-UTP-Pull-Box.asp <-- good? yes/no?
17:04 BotSteve Title: SolidRun by Sewell, Cat5e Bulk Cable, 1,000 ft., UTP, CM, Light Gray, Pull Box - Cat5E-305M, $53.95
17:05 einball1 iSasha: The cake is a lie!
17:06 iSasha I never said how big it was ;D
17:06 CaptainNiobe http://youtu.be/qjm5pOu_PEw HAHA! laws of physics defied! :D
17:06 BotSteve Title: JFL Hidden Camera Pranks & Gags: Instant Water - YouTube
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17:06 BotSteve All right, show us on the doll where Seroster touched you.
17:12 einball1 LOL :D
17:12 einball1 BotSteve: xD
17:12 iSasha You mean... BatSteve :P
17:13 einball1 no ... :D
17:13 iSasha Yes, because he programs him ;)
17:13 einball1 BatSteve just teached his bot such things?
17:13 einball1 epic
17:13 iSasha Yeah I'm pretty darn sure he does
17:14 CaptainNiobe he does, with some input from others
17:21 Seroster That greet is almost a year old
17:22 ajcc still holds true ;P
17:25 NeWtoz egrsteve|lurking, will CCA (copper clad aluminum) be good enough, or do you need copper?
17:25 NeWtoz for cat5e
17:27 NeWtoz I guess a /msg would be better
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17:30 einball1 ahrg my head
17:31 einball1 26db amplification is 20 times the voltage ... and NOT the power
17:31 * ajcc cycles a function generator through the most annoying frequencies
17:33 * einball1 wobbles ajcc's ears
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17:48 tonsofpcs hi
17:50 egrsteve|lurking NeWtoz: copper would be prefered
17:51 egrsteve|lurking powering cameras aluminum tends to have a greater voltage drop
17:51 NeWtoz ok, just wondering since there is a large price difference
17:51 egrsteve|lurking 20 db is 100x the power
17:52 egrsteve|lurking I know, copper over aluminum is never ideal, the only value is it's lower cost
17:54 egrsteve|lurking 3 db is a doubling of power
18:02 eadthem how long dose it take urban dictionary to review a definition?
18:05 iSasha egrsteve|lurking, whilst your here, I have come seeking for your expert advise. How could I join several wifi networks (completely separate ones) into a single LAN?
18:05 Ponko damn i wish i knew what to ask because i could do with some help
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18:06 Ponko tbh idk if egrsteve|lurking will know what the problem is but it's worth a shot
18:06 iSasha Damn. I think he left.
18:06 Ponko hmm
18:07 iSasha BotSteve: tell egrsteve|lurking that has come seeking for your expert advice. How could he join several wifi networks (completely separate ones) into a single LAN?
18:07 BotSteve iSasha: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
18:07 sndwrx iSasha: WDS -- Wireless Distribution System
18:07 einball1 BotSteve: tell einball1 hallo
18:07 BotSteve You can tell yourself that.
18:08 einball1 oho .. it bites :D
18:08 Ponko sndwrx can you help us
18:08 Ponko you a sparky?
18:08 Ponko electrician*
18:08 sndwrx iSasha: Let me make sure I understand your environment properly.
18:09 iSasha Um... I have 2 completely isolated AP's in the house, I need to join them into a single network (to double the internet speed)
18:09 sndwrx To double the speed?
18:09 iSasha Did I just say something totally stupid?
18:09 sndwrx Is there a wired network connection to each of the existing APs?
18:10 iSasha Yes. 2 completelly different network connections.
18:10 sndwrx No no, there's nothing stupid about asking questions.
18:10 sndwrx Ok and they're both on their own separate networks?
18:10 sndwrx With individual WAN connections?
18:11 iSasha Well... One of them just sits in the basement doing nothing, the other one I'm using to connect to the internet right now.
18:12 iSasha There might even be a third one because our internet connection is truly unbearable
18:12 sndwrx Ok.  So... Hmm.
18:12 sndwrx Let me ask a few more questions, because I still don't fully understand the setup.
18:12 sndwrx Let's go into another channel?
18:13 Ponko i got one really old dilbert comic email
18:13 Ponko Wednesday, December 31, 1969
18:13 Ponko that's when it was dated o_O
18:13 einball1 Now just google that date and you know what went wrong
18:14 NeWtoz yup
18:14 einball1 That's the birth of our world :)
18:15 iSasha Ponko, are you interested in this info?
18:15 Ponko in your WiFi?
18:15 iSasha Yes
18:16 Ponko i don't really know much about it so not really
18:17 Ponko if i understood it more then yeah
18:17 einball1 Hm, there's almost no information about the calculations for RF cavities :(
18:19 Cprossu good morning/afternoon/evening/night/solstice/whatever everyone!
18:19 Cprossu egrsteve|lurking I see you've been busy!
18:19 tonsofpcs yawwwwwwwwwwn
18:19 einball1 wb Cprossu
18:19 tonsofpcs it's not solstice, Cprossu
18:19 Cprossu I don't care
18:20 Cprossu by the time I am done I'll add shit tons of more things it isn't too :D
18:20 tonsofpcs iSasha: what are the APs?  what os will the client use [or can the client use an external box to demarc wifi to wired?]?
18:22 tonsofpcs Ponko: at 11[4~:59:59 ?
18:22 tonsofpcs that's a datestamp of -1 ;)
18:22 tonsofpcs *11:59:59
18:22 Ponko hmm
18:22 Ponko ok?
18:23 wannabe1987 hey look....it decided to work :P
18:23 wannabe1987 after i left, i assume :/
18:23 tonsofpcs unixtime which is what we communicate time in is just a counter of seconds since Jan 1, 1970.  If something causes that timestamp to be -1, you get Dec 31, 1969 11:59:59
18:23 wannabe1987 yep....right away after i left.  silly computer
18:23 Ponko lol tonsofpcs i can send you the email
18:23 Ponko or atleast screenshot it
18:27 tonsofpcs Sunday, January 08, 2012    18:27:56Z    1326047276
18:28 Ponko but i was looking at it and was like eh wtf lol
18:28 Ponko i gathered something was wrong with it though
18:30 tonsofpcs /bin/sh: now: not found
18:30 tonsofpcs bah
18:30 tonsofpcs Sunday 08 January 2012 18:30:59 UTC    1326047459
18:30 tonsofpcs much better :)
18:31 tonsofpcs actually...
18:32 tonsofpcs Sunday       2012 January 08  18:32:17 UTC       1326047537
18:32 tonsofpcs now, you see how that last number changes between each of those?
18:32 tonsofpcs that's unix time.  If you do the math, it's the number of seconds since Jan 1, 1970
18:34 wannabe1987 computer sucks.  can i has new one plz?
18:36 Ponko http://imgur.com/VNsAH tonsofpcs
18:36 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
18:36 tonsofpcs Thursday       1970 January 01  00:00:00 UTC       0
18:36 tonsofpcs Wednesday       1969 December 31  23:59:59 UTC       -1
18:36 Ponko error in the email obviosuly
18:37 tonsofpcs no, the email parsed the date from a parameter supplied, the parameter probably wasn't actually supplied and defaulted to -1.
18:37 ajcc yeah, the rules of the first time.h doesn't apply anymore
18:37 ajcc the world doesn't end in 2035 like it use to do
18:37 Ponko i meant error in the email not the email itself because i received it lol
18:38 tonsofpcs hmm... is there a way to parse tabs to spaces to cause them to repeatedly line up?  perhaps with sed?
18:39 tonsofpcs %iis not too useful on IRC
18:39 tonsofpcs is not too useful on IRC
18:39 tonsofpcs err, ^
18:39 Ponko i wouldn't know but i clicked on the todays comic and it was clearly an error as you said
18:42 ajcc tonsofpcs: are you formating date?
18:42 ajcc as in date(1)
18:46 Ponko what is love baby don't hurt me don't hurt me no more
18:47 tonsofpcs yes
18:48 ajcc tonsofpcs: hold
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18:49 Seroster Bastard put a bid 10cents higher than mine on my nice switch two minutes before the auction ended, and I lagged in the last few seconds so I couldnt place one
18:49 Seroster FRK
18:50 Electricguy guys, the MC server is TOTALLY fucked here. can't play on it..
18:50 Electricguy any big masses with random spawned or something?
18:50 tonsofpcs Electricguy: that means you have time to do something other than play minecraft, congrats :)
18:50 Sgt_Lemming .minecraft
18:50 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: Legacy TGG minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: UP
18:50 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
18:51 Electricguy tonsofpcs, lol
18:51 Electricguy Cprossu, FIX YOUR EFFIN SERVER! :P
18:51 tonsofpcs 1) it says up
18:51 Cprossu it's fine for me
18:51 tonsofpcs 2) I was being serious.  Do something else.
18:51 Cprossu btw it's at 25564
18:51 CaptainNiobe i'm logged in
18:51 Cprossu heh
18:51 Electricguy i get like 0.1 FPS....
18:51 ajcc tonsofpcs: date +"%A %Y %B %r %Z %s"
18:51 Electricguy all of a sudden it just choked
18:51 Cprossu well where the hell did you go and why?!
18:52 Cprossu because you used up all the ram
18:52 Electricguy out in the woods to find a stronghold.. :P
18:52 Cprossu PLEASE don't do that
18:52 CaptainNiobe ... why is spawn a giant dome?
18:52 Cprossu that's what the other servers are for
18:52 Cprossu because djrock made it that way
18:53 tonsofpcs ajcc: they don't line up (and I want spacing between them)
18:53 tonsofpcs Saturday 2011 January 12:00:00 AM EST 1293858000
18:53 tonsofpcs Sunday 2011 January 12:00:00 AM EST 1293944400
18:53 CaptainNiobe lol... ok... do we have co-ordinates to the "lab"?
18:53 ajcc tonsofpcs: if you want tabs instead of spaces, insert %t (without spaces before or after)
18:53 ajcc hmm
18:53 ajcc oh
18:53 tonsofpcs ajcc: right, but I need to convert those tabs back to the right number of spaces for IRC
18:53 Cprossu 344 426
18:53 tonsofpcs date -u +"%A%t%Y %B %d  %H:%M:%S UTC%t%s"
18:53 tonsofpcs is my format
18:54 tonsofpcs CaptainNiobe: Leonard St NW, Grand Rapids
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18:54 CaptainNiobe i meant in minecraft lol
18:54 tonsofpcs /bin/sh: now: not found
18:54 tonsofpcs bah
18:54 tonsofpcs Sunday2012 January 08  18:54:54 UTC1326048894
18:54 tonsofpcs see the tab issue?
18:55 tonsofpcs and you can't jusst s/\i/        / because it needs to dynamically size
18:55 tonsofpcs hmm... "expand"
18:56 ajcc tonsofpcs: date only seems to support padding (adding spaces behind if needed)
18:57 Cprossu server restarted lol
18:58 tonsofpcs hmmm, expand SHOULD do it based on what man says, but it isn't
18:58 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, still not working
18:58 ajcc expand does only convert tabs into a fixed number of spaces
18:59 ajcc iirc
18:59 tonsofpcs -t, --tabs=NUMBER
18:59 tonsofpcs have tabs NUMBER characters apart, not 8
18:59 ajcc yeah, that works
19:00 tonsofpcs it doesn't though
19:00 ajcc date | expand -t 2
19:00 ajcc pipe it
19:00 tonsofpcs date -d "Jan 1 2011" +"%A %Y %B %r %Z %s" | expand -t 10
19:00 tonsofpcs oh, woops
19:00 tonsofpcs wrong date command :
19:00 ajcc that's a lot of spaces
19:00 Cprossu Electronics, server restarted
19:00 ajcc why do you want "Jan 1 2011" to be a static text?
19:01 tonsofpcs -d [arg] == show this date, not now
19:01 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, I've just tried to log in twice, failed both times
19:01 einball1 BORED
19:01 Sgt_Lemming restarting the server may not fix what Electricguy did
19:01 ajcc hm
19:01 Electronics restart MC?
19:01 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming: what client are you running?
19:01 Sgt_Lemming latest
19:01 Cprossu also :25564 right?
19:01 Ponko einball1 welcome to the club
19:02 ajcc ah okej
19:02 Electricguy hey! i wasn't the only one racing out in the woods! :P
19:02 Sgt_Lemming working now
19:02 Cprossu Sgt_Lemming due to guardianzozo I was forced to rollback to week 50 snapshot
19:02 Cprossu oh ok
19:02 einball1 Iam tired of searching for vacuum pumps
19:02 tonsofpcs yay :)
19:02 tonsofpcs Sunday       2012 January 08  19:03:03 UTC       1326049383
19:03 tonsofpcs Wednesday    2012 January 04  01:23:45 UTC       1325640225
19:04 ajcc neat!
19:04 tonsofpcs oo, I need to put a tab between month and time...
19:04 ajcc %t between %B and %r
19:05 tonsofpcs well, I'm calculating tab stops now to force specific ones
19:05 ajcc hum
19:07 einball1 I need a girlfriend
19:07 ajcc why?
19:07 einball1 Because it is sunday evening in here and its boring as hell
19:08 einball1 And I have nothing better to do than looking for RF cavity calculations
19:10 einball1 My life sucks!
19:10 tonsofpcs Sunday     2012 January   08  19:10:12 UTC         1326049812
19:10 tonsofpcs Wednesday  2011 January   05  00:00:00 UTC         1294185600
19:10 tonsofpcs Wednesday  2014 September 03  01:23:45 UTC         1409707425
19:11 tonsofpcs Thursday   2008 May       01  12:34:56 UTC         1209645296
19:11 tonsofpcs einball1: looking for RF cavity calculations?
19:11 einball1 For a LINAC
19:11 tonsofpcs also, when you find one, get me one too? :)
19:12 ajcc what you need is not a girlfriend, but a life. :P
19:12 tonsofpcs whatever it's for, why are you 'looking' ? do you need formulae?
19:12 * tonsofpcs has a life and it occasionall involves RF cavity 'calculations'
19:12 Monkeh Anyone know if you can get 10" racks in the US?
19:12 tonsofpcs (you tune an RF cavity mechanically...)
19:13 tonsofpcs Monkeh: 10" being "half width" ?
19:13 tonsofpcs markertek should have them, if so.
19:13 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Not exactly.
19:13 einball1 Well, I'd like to build a small LINAC.
19:13 einball1 But I have got no idea how so start :P
19:14 tonsofpcs Calzone Cases (aka Anvil aka SKB aka Pelican aka Cases2go) can custom build em too.
19:14 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I dunno, might be, but over here there's a whole range of 10" racks and accessories.
19:14 Monkeh Just started watching the latest blog, and a 10" patch panel is what Bill needs.
19:15 tonsofpcs Monkeh: got a link to where he needs it?
19:15 ajcc read a book, don't put all your anxiety on girls
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19:15 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Not on hand, in the new camera PSU
19:15 ajcc deal with it!
19:15 einball1 lol
19:16 tonsofpcs yesterday's?
19:16 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Well, yes, unless another one's been uploaded in the last 15 minutes.
19:16 ajcc no brilliant man has ever been free of anxiety, more often he have been terrorised by anguish. that's life, deal with it or become a new age person
19:17 ajcc that's what makes life beautiful!
19:17 einball1 lol
19:17 ajcc :/
19:18 einball1 You ment "painful"?
19:18 einball1 :P
19:18 ajcc nope
19:18 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Ah, that'd work. 16-port patch panel which consists of two 8-port modules clipped in.
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19:19 tonsofpcs what's wrong with a 19" wide patch panel?
19:20 Monkeh tonsofpcs: The chances of physically fitting a full-width 19" patch panel INSIDE a 19" case.
19:21 tonsofpcs Monkeh: you just take the wings off
19:21 NeWtoz minor technicalities
19:21 tonsofpcs most of my 19" patch panels are actually 16" wide interior (or less)
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19:21 Monkeh Oh, looks like they found one.
19:22 einball1 d'oh! and tomorrow is not even a day off ... damn
19:23 tonsofpcs why doesn't he just use a giant connector and build a breakout?
19:23 einball1 thats quite inefficient
19:24 tonsofpcs he's just going to be using this to patch as a breakkiout anyway
19:24 Monkeh tonsofpcs: He wants it neat and tidy to connect to a another patch panel to wire up the cameras, apparently.
19:24 tonsofpcs why break it out insnide and not outside? if ti breaks out outside, it'll be quicker to disconnect
19:24 Monkeh Thing is, they need it to connect to something which takes 24AWG.
19:24 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, because breaking it out inside, means one connector outside, not many
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19:25 Sgt_Lemming how many wires does it need to be?
19:26 iSasha sndwrx... I am back! So sorry, I am currently using a windows machine...
19:26 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: exactly.  He wants to interconnect 20-some cables with 20-some connectors for the sole purpose of being able to disconnect it all to move it...  why not just interconnect with one connector and a fan out?
19:26 einball1 8 tiny wires per CAT5
19:26 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: To power like, a hundred cameras, without exceeding the terminal capacity of a patch panel?
19:26 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Quite a few.
19:26 wannabe1987 hey look, my internet worketh
19:26 wannabe1987 and my dishes are done
19:26 wannabe1987 and i'm going to eat lunch.  yum nutella :D
19:26 BitViper come to my dishes
19:27 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I think he's trying to avoid some gigantic, ugly, COMPLETE pain in the ass connector on the PSU side.
19:27 wannabe1987 can't....i hve to be in GR at 4:30
19:27 iSasha ^ speaking of the camera setup, I have a gut feeling that this may not end very well in terms of cat5 cable usage and in general.
19:27 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Terminating a few cat5e cables is easy. Try fitting them all into one big shell and soldering them all on and you'll get mighty fed up mighty fast.
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19:27 roadran422 Hi!
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19:28 Sgt_Lemming http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/1-1734037-0/A33470-ND/1121339 <--- 100 pins enough?
19:28 BotSteve Title: Digi-Key - A33470-ND (Manufacturer - 1-1734037-0)
19:28 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Are you volunteering to solder all the cat5e to the other end of that?
19:29 Sgt_Lemming sure, if you wanna send it here :-P
19:29 tonsofpcs Monkeh: but he doesn't need to! he is just trunking power.
19:29 roadran422 lol
19:29 roadran422 Anyone savy with wii homebrews?
19:29 Monkeh tonsofpcs: .. But he needs to do it in cables he can plug into a patch panel.
19:29 iSasha Why can't they use multi-pair cables? I've seen some 50 pair ones before.
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19:30 roadran422 hey Toastdude
19:30 Toastdude Hello
19:30 wannabe1987 toasty!
19:30 tonsofpcs he can just get a twist-lock and twist all the 23awg copper that feeds the patch panel together to make 'stranded wire' for the twist-lock to go into that box.
19:30 roadran422 hi wannabe1987
19:30 einball One could just melt the cables together :D
19:30 wannabe1987 hi
19:30 einball And use it as a giant camera :o
19:30 Toastdude wannabe!
19:30 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
19:31 Toastdude :D
19:31 roadran422 ....
19:31 roadran422 xD
19:31 einball err..hi?
19:31 wannabe1987 i has pb and tuella sandwhich
19:31 wannabe1987 hi einball
19:31 roadran422 wannabe1987: "Cut a lime.  DO NOT lick your hands you'll make a funny face.  Ask me  how I know.  My housemate laughed at me.  How nice of him, right?!"
19:31 roadran422 Fail.
19:31 wannabe1987 lol thx
19:31 roadran422 xD
19:32 iSasha http://www.ebay.com/itm/CAT3-50-Pair-Telco-Cable-24AWG-UTP-1000-CMR-Gray-/160371726897?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item2556e65a31
19:32 BotSteve Title: CAT3 50 Pair Telco Cable 24AWG UTP 1000' CMR Gray | eBay
19:32 Monkeh iSasha: ... But that needs to terminate into multiple 8P8Cs.
19:32 Monkeh iSasha: I.. no.
19:33 iSasha what if they just sodder it on?
19:33 roadran422 *sodler
19:33 roadran422 *solder
19:33 Monkeh iSasha: ... That defeats the whole purpose of it being possible to disconnect it, and where on earth are you going to solder it on a patch panel?
19:34 iSasha Oh, right, sorry, I misunderstood what you guys meant.
19:34 roadran422 What's going on? Trying to terminate ethernet in to what?
19:34 iSasha But I mean, I'm sure there is some sort of 50 pin connector
19:35 Monkeh iSasha: Yep, and I'm not going to try and securely fit all that cat5 into it.
19:35 Sgt_Lemming 20 8 pair cables is 160 wires...
19:35 roadran422 Some serial cables...
19:35 tonsofpcs iSasha: there's plenty, but there's no reason to
19:36 roadran422 DD-50 connector
19:36 Sgt_Lemming roadran422, 160 wires....
19:36 roadran422 Oh! xD
19:36 roadran422 Well....
19:37 iSasha Can't they just put the bluecherry DVRs closer to the camera's, and run a single ethernet cable back to the NOC?
19:37 tonsofpcs it's not like there's 50 different signals coming out of that box, there are TWO
19:37 einball ajcc: could not find a book. hm
19:37 Sgt_Lemming iSasha, the bluecherry DVR's are PCI cards...
19:37 einball Or to say it in other words: No "non technical related" book :P
19:37 roadran422 Sgt_Lemming: 4 DD-50 connectors be good?
19:37 azop The Bluecherry cards are PCIe
19:37 Cprossu the one's we're using are pcie =D
19:37 tonsofpcs those two are V+ and ground
19:37 Monkeh iSasha: Yep, let's put a box big enough to put a half-depth full-height PCI-E card in up on a ceiling with the cameras. :P
19:37 Sgt_Lemming roadran422, probably wanna ask egrsteve when he's around
19:37 Cprossu they have both
19:38 roadran422 Sgt_Lemming: Ask him what? xD
19:38 iSasha Sgt_Lemming... you know what I mean
19:38 Cprossu roadran422 what's the question heh
19:38 ajcc einball: there's only like a billion or so in the world, they are $1, £1 or €1 at any thrith shop in any country
19:38 Sgt_Lemming iSasha, not as simple as you think
19:38 roadran422 Cprossu: If you need 160 wires. Then use a dd-50sub connector! Well, 5 of them!
19:39 einball Yep. But not on germanys HOLY SUNDAY evening :P
19:39 Cprossu it's nice having hardlines, the fewer connections the better though
19:39 Monkeh roadran422: Feel free to terminate all that.
19:39 roadran422 ...ok
19:39 iSasha What I meant was: put the entire linux box with the bluecherry card closer to the cameras... like how is that hard to understand from what I said??
19:39 roadran422 Monkeh: hahaha that be fun!
19:40 Monkeh iSasha: ... Put it WHERE?
19:40 Monkeh iSasha: There are a LOT more cameras than one card can handle and they're all over the building.
19:40 Monkeh iSasha: It makes no sense to go spreading PCs out around the building away from the UPSes and building many, many seperate PSUs for all the cameras.
19:40 roadran422 I'd love to terminate that! It'd be so much fun!
19:40 einball I think what iSasha tried to say is: Use a star topology and distribute PC's so one Ethernet cable is enought
19:41 iSasha Monkeh: no, that's still not what I meant... but whatever...
19:41 azop iSasha: technically you could put several servers around the building and run 16-32 cameras into each box and use the remote client software to display feeds from each, but they wouldn't be in a nice centralized location
19:41 Monkeh einball: Yes, but then you need a UPS and camera PSU at each site.
19:41 einball yup ... google is doing it right :)
19:41 Monkeh iSasha: Then clarify because it sounds a lot like you're saying 'move the PC out of the NOC'
19:42 azop the only thing that would give you is redundancy if the rack holding all of the servers caught fire.
19:42 einball http://greenm3.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54f92c99e883401156ebdffc5970c-pi :)
19:42 einball redundant destruction of all servers? :P
19:42 roadran422 lol
19:43 Monkeh iSasha: You need to be clear here: Each card can handle up to 16 cameras, you might get three or so cards to a box, there are going to be 100+ cameras, and they're going to be literally all around the building.
19:44 einball Hmm, I have to look deep doen into the basement. Maybe I find the drop-bass of that song there x_O
19:45 ajcc einball: http://www.archive.org/details/dieinselbauernod24371gut here you go, a quality book
19:45 BotSteve Title: Die Inselbauern oder Die Leute auf Hemsö : Strindberg, August, 1849-1912 : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive
19:46 einball mni tnx
19:49 iSasha This is what I meant: imgur.com/WTybP
19:50 Cprossu CaptainNiobe: http://www.mcescher.com/Biography/lw435f2.jpg
19:51 CaptainNiobe i just loaded it, Cprossu, but i think my pc is lagging a little :-\ teamspeak messed up, but i still hear you
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19:51 Cprossu fair enough
19:54 einball ops, it is that late? Not good. Have to get up agn at 05:30. I wish you all a good night! :o)
19:56 tonsofpcs lol "professional minidisc decks"
20:00 wannabe1987 .in 45min get ready for work
20:00 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 20:45Z
20:01 masterofmonks wannabe1987: in 45 mintutes you need to get ready for work.
20:01 wannabe1987 thanks masterofmonks
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20:02 Monkeh iSasha: .. So exactly what I said, then.
20:03 Monkeh iSasha: Moving multiple large machines out of the NOC away from UPSes and building multiple seperate camera PSUs to save a few feet of cable.
20:03 iSasha Oh really? :facepalm:
20:04 Monkeh iSasha: If I had to choose between finding places for servers in that building and buying a few more boxes of cat5e, I'd just buy the cat5e.
20:09 Seroster SparkyProjects, got...er... 3 230-110volt transformers. Paralell them and feed the motstack will give me roughly 450v RMS, right?  And how do I properly paralell them, primaries paralell and secondarys paralell, paying close attention to phase?  A pair of them are 20ish VA for electric shaver use, and the other is rated for 50w.  Should I try to put a high frequenzy inverter before them? In that case the spark from the MOTs will be
20:09 Seroster HF too, and instead of just pissing off anyone with a radio in the house will piss of evryone with a radio in the town xD
20:09 tonsofpcs egrsteve|lurking is making a figure-8 in his hands... interesting.
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20:12 SparkyProjects Do you mean reverse the transformers to get a step up ?
20:13 Monkeh egrsteve|lurking: We demand 18 cable pull!
20:13 roadran422 I need help! about physics!
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20:13 tonsofpcs ##physics
20:13 wannabe1987 what he said ^^
20:13 NeWtoz what she said ^^
20:14 roadran422 We are moving along with the earth as we are on it. Does it mean if something is floating, will it slam in to the wall?
20:14 tonsofpcs roadran422: no, the earth is stationary.  I make it rotate as I walk.
20:14 wannabe1987 do bits of dust slam into the wall?  they float....
20:14 tonsofpcs I don't ever move.
20:14 wannabe1987 LOL
20:14 Seroster In essence yes, SparkyProjects
20:14 roadran422 tonsofpcs:  uh....
20:14 roadran422 The earth is revolving right?
20:15 wannabe1987 (sarcasm alert, for tonsofpcs)
20:15 roadran422 Ok thanks wannabe1987
20:15 roadran422 Ik that. But tonsofpcs is ehh.
20:15 roadran422 I need a reall answer...
20:15 wannabe1987 seriously?  YOU DON"T KNOW ABOUT SARCASM?
20:15 tonsofpcs roadran422: no, the rest of the universe moves around me.
20:15 roadran422 tonsofpcs: shut it.
20:15 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: not sarcasm, relativity.
20:15 wannabe1987 no, it moves around ME!
20:15 roadran422 wannabe1987: I know what it is.
20:15 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: exactly.
20:15 wannabe1987 ok.  do you not understand it?
20:15 Seroster Gonna google some numbers
20:15 roadran422 Ok? xD
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20:16 SparkyProjects Seroster, the 3 transformers will supply about 70W at best to the stack, i sense a burnout
20:16 LemPhone sigh, woke up this morning with a lot of pain on my jaw
20:16 wannabe1987 :(
20:16 Seroster I will just get 70w of heat into 40kilos of steel
20:16 LemPhone at the dental hospital now
20:16 Seroster It'll be fine =)
20:16 LemPhone waiting to see what happens
20:16 wannabe1987 o dear. :(
20:17 Seroster We'll have to sew your mouth shut, LemPhone =)
20:17 roadran422 Hahhahahahha
20:17 einball roadran422: It's about the intertial system. If a force is applied to the floating thing relative to the inertial system it will move. if not, it will stand still. If tonsofpcs says he is the inertial system, then it is alright: He moves the earth under his feet. Damn, I just wanted to go to sleep ...
20:17 tonsofpcs speakign of floaty things, it's snowing out :D
20:17 wannabe1987 NOES
20:17 wannabe1987 snow = bad
20:18 wannabe1987 its like spring here...i'm so happpppppppy
20:18 roadran422 xD
20:18 roadran422 Ehanks einball I get it...
20:18 wannabe1987 einball: go to sleep then?
20:18 roadran422 *thanks
20:18 LemPhone I'd love some snow here atm wannabe
20:18 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: I moved to upstate NY from a place that is not upstate NY.  I have no right to complain about snow. I embrace it :)
20:18 LemPhone too freaking warm here and it's 6am
20:18 wannabe1987 sndwrx moved back to MI from FL and wants snow....
20:18 wannabe1987 but we're not getting it
20:18 LemPhone heh
20:18 sndwrx meh
20:18 wannabe1987 it is supposed to be colder next week....we shall see what we get
20:19 sndwrx I'm okay with or without it.
20:19 wannabe1987 hi
20:19 LemPhone snow!
20:19 wannabe1987 k good
20:19 wannabe1987 lem, go to alaska.  they  might have some.  finland doesn't have much i'm told
20:19 LemPhone the snow must fall </dune>
20:19 tonsofpcs s/the snow/darkness
20:19 tonsofpcs err,
20:19 iSasha I moved from VA to VD, and there is plenty of snow right now
20:19 tonsofpcs s/the snow/silence/
20:20 tonsofpcs VD?
20:20 LemPhone Venerial Disease state
20:20 roadran422 What's that?
20:20 LemPhone lol
20:20 tonsofpcs a place without snow, roadran422
20:20 roadran422 Really lol
20:20 LemPhone .w venerial disease
20:20 BotSteve "Sexually transmitted disease (STD), also known as a sexually transmitted infection (STI) or venereal disease (VD), is an illness that has a significant probability of transmission between humans by means of human sexual behavior, including vaginal intercourse, oral [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venerial_disease
20:20 roadran422 tonsofpcs:  I don't trust you as I don't trust seroster.
20:20 roadran422 xD
20:20 roadran422 THanks LemPhone
20:21 LemPhone np, it had to be done.
20:21 iSasha I'll let you take a few guesses :P
20:21 masterofmonks roadran422: next time you feel the need to ask "what's that" remember to go ask wikipedia.
20:21 roadran422 Ok thanks xD
20:21 masterofmonks But not in the channel.
20:21 LemPhone aww, sif ruin my phone masterofmonks
20:21 LemPhone fun*
20:22 LemPhone wow I am out of it this morning
20:22 wannabe1987 its the pain.  don't worry about it :P
20:22 * LemPhone nods
20:22 LemPhone taken neurofen and panadol this morning, still in pain :-(
20:23 tonsofpcs projector is doing better today at least :D
20:23 tonsofpcs sinuses are not :(
20:23 iSasha roadran422: I'll tell you this: it is a state with 4 letters
20:23 roadran422 What isasha?
20:24 iSasha The place that I moved to
20:24 tonsofpcs wikipedia claims that's a canton...
20:24 * masterofmonks pokes LemPhone.
20:24 tonsofpcs does it sing to you?
20:24 LemPhone wot?
20:24 masterofmonks Check your PMs
20:25 roadran422 Oh. Idk...
20:25 roadran422 iSasha let me guess....
20:25 iSasha Yes?
20:25 roadran422 Wait, a state in the U.S.?
20:25 wannabe1987 no
20:25 iSasha No
20:25 tonsofpcs roadran422: no, a canton in switzerland
20:25 wannabe1987 there is no state w/ initials of VD....only VA
20:26 roadran422 Ok...
20:26 tonsofpcs who said anythign about a state?
20:26 wannabe1987 state of mind, maybe
20:26 iSasha Hmmm... I never said state
20:26 roadran422 iSasha: I got it.
20:26 * iSasha clears the log
20:26 wannabe1987 you moved from one place to another, thats all you said
20:26 roadran422 Chad, Cuba, Fiji, Guam, Iran, Iraq, Laos, Mali, Niue, Oman, Peru and togo.
20:26 roadran422 Which one ^
20:27 wannabe1987 :throws hands up:  none are vd
20:27 wannabe1987 wtf
20:27 iSasha a canton in switzerland... gee
20:27 roadran422 .....
20:27 wannabe1987 SWITZERLAND
20:27 * tonsofpcs needs a beef on weck for his sinuses
20:27 roadran422 I don't get it....
20:27 wannabe1987 he's a SWISS
20:27 tonsofpcs .w VD
20:27 BotSteve "Valentine's Day" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VD
20:27 wannabe1987 maybe a swiss army knife
20:27 tonsofpcs hrm
20:27 wannabe1987 LOL
20:27 iSasha ROFL
20:27 roadran422 l.....
20:27 tonsofpcs botsteve interprets disambig pages wrong
20:27 iSasha .w Vauf
20:27 BotSteve Can't find anything in Wikipedia for "Vauf".
20:27 tonsofpcs but click that link anyway, roadran422
20:27 iSasha *.w Vaud
20:27 iSasha Damn it!
20:28 iSasha .w Vaud
20:28 BotSteve "Vaud (French pronunciation: [vo]) is one of the 26 cantons of Switzerland and is located in Romandy, the French-speaking southwestern part of the country." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaud
20:28 roadran422 .w canton
20:28 BotSteve "Canton (country subdivision), territorial/administrative subdivision in some countries, notably Switzerland" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canton
20:28 roadran422 Oh....
20:28 LemPhone oh god, he's a frenchie! kill him!
20:28 CaptainNiobe if the minecraft lab is so similier to the real lab... put it this way: i got lost in the minecraft lab! LOL!!!
20:28 roadran422 Lol
20:28 tonsofpcs CaptainNiobe: it's VERY easy to get lost in the real lab
20:28 roadran422 No?
20:28 wannabe1987 yes.  it is.
20:29 wannabe1987 i used to :P
20:29 CaptainNiobe i can see that lol
20:29 iSasha LemPhone, you have something against me, oliver, mashpriborintorg and others???
20:29 roadran422 I bet you I couldn't.
20:29 wannabe1987 doesn't help theres 2 basements and one has 3 or 4 entry points....
20:29 LemPhone kidding sasha
20:29 CaptainNiobe how many ways is there back to the entrance hall? O.O
20:29 wannabe1987 o.O  frenchies?
20:29 tonsofpcs because whoever was there between the Y and tgg put walls where they shouldn't be and removed them where they should
20:29 LemPhone lol
20:29 tonsofpcs CaptainNiobe: at least 4 from anywhere
20:30 wannabe1987 and theres no way to put an elevator in (ADA approved) for it to go to *all* basements and *all* floors....
20:30 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: well... there may be, but the fact that the multiple upper levels have no connection to each other....
20:31 tonsofpcs I mean I suppose you could put a walk between the space overlooking MDH and MC...
20:31 roadran422 I bet you could put me in the lab with a flashlight, and I would be able to get out xD
20:31 tonsofpcs roadran422: getting out is easy.
20:31 wannabe1987 yeah.  thats what i mean.  you could get a wheelchair down to robotics and up to NLE/MC, but then you can't get to chemistry/computer lab w/o going up and down a different elevator.
20:31 tonsofpcs getting to where you want to go inside is confusing ;)
20:31 iSasha roadran422 same!
20:31 roadran422 Hahahahaha
20:32 roadran422 I could go to the basement.
20:32 iSasha wannabe1987, wait, there is an elevator??
20:32 tonsofpcs which basement?
20:32 wannabe1987 (i have a best friend in a chair and know a school group witha  kid in a chair, and knowing that it'd be difficult to even get them in the building makes me :()
20:32 wannabe1987 iSasha: there is not.  but there should be.
20:32 roadran422 Where the computer lab is tonsofpcs
20:32 tonsofpcs iSasha: no.
20:32 wannabe1987 in the basement
20:32 wannabe1987 by the pool thinger
20:32 wannabe1987 .w haitian earthquake
20:32 BotSteve "As of 2010, the following major earthquakes have been recorded in Haiti." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_earthquake
20:33 wannabe1987 no, i want the date of it.....stupid bot/wiki
20:33 wannabe1987 i think it was the 12th :/
20:33 tonsofpcs you could click the link...
20:33 wannabe1987 slow browser
20:33 wannabe1987 i should know damnit...its the day my dads job changed
20:34 masterofmonks wannabe1987: My former boss lost a house in that earthquake.
20:34 wannabe1987 my mom went down after the EQ and helped out
20:34 wannabe1987 my dad was awake for 23 hours after it, co-ordinating things
20:34 masterofmonks 12 January
20:34 wannabe1987 thx
20:35 * tonsofpcs needs a haircut.... how hard are those hair clipper things to use to give yourself a haircut that doesn't look like crap?
20:35 LemPhone tons, hard to do on yourself
20:36 * tonsofpcs isn't going to go to a barber/salon when he's sick
20:36 masterofmonks tonsofpcs: The question is what kind of haircut do you want?
20:37 masterofmonks I have paid for exactly one, haircut in my entire life.
20:37 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: the kind that doesn't make me look like krusty the clown when my hair is dried :-p
20:37 tonsofpcs note: i'm balding, so not too close
20:37 tonsofpcs they usually buzz the sides (1/4"? 3/16?) and use scissors on the top
20:37 masterofmonks less close means more obvious.
20:37 tonsofpcs I also have blonde hair
20:37 tonsofpcs if i get close enough, I look 100% bald, regardless of hair state
20:38 masterofmonks I generally throw a 3/8 or 1/4 guard on mine andgo with it.
20:38 tonsofpcs what do you do? bottom to top on sides/back and front to back on top?
20:38 masterofmonks I just cut it all one even height.
20:39 tonsofpcs right, but how do you pull the thing over your hair?  just keep going until there's nothing different?
20:39 masterofmonks But for me it is a matter of practicality and not fashion.
20:39 masterofmonks Correct.
20:39 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: I'm an engineer.  Everything is a matter of practicality.
20:39 tonsofpcs also good to note:  hydrophobic pants are amazing.
20:39 masterofmonks If I had more hair on top, I wouldn't even cut my hair.
20:40 masterofmonks I happen to like long hair you see.
20:40 masterofmonks But it looks weird even to me with thin hair on the top.
20:41 tonsofpcs I had long hair for a year and a half (well, I didn't cut it for a year and a half... it was long for like 1/2 a year... my hair doesn't grow too fast)
20:41 masterofmonks I love the feeling that comes when you get off work, and you pull your pony tail out and shake your hair loose.
20:41 tonsofpcs like, I get my hair cut 3x a year or less which is why I generally don't mind paying for it to be done.  $30 - $60 per year
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20:42 wannabe1987 hi DruidicRifleman
20:43 iSasha DruidicRifleman :D !!!
20:43 Lwq-SleepinBear my dad is trying to argue with me that you can hook up an led up backward and it will still work
20:44 masterofmonks lwq1996: It will not.
20:44 masterofmonks It is a diode.
20:44 tonsofpcs Lwq-SleepinBear: you can.  For certain types of LEDs and certain voltages and ...
20:44 lwq1996 IK
20:44 lwq1996 hes arguing it will
20:44 LemPhone it will work, to prevent the current from flowing
20:44 wannabe1987 lee knows this...his dad does not, clearly
20:44 LemPhone so as a normal diode
20:44 LemPhone also if it's AC it will work both ways
20:44 LemPhone but it will only be on 50% of the time
20:45 tonsofpcs http://www.scienceprog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007i/bi_color/bicolor_two_lead.PNG
20:45 einball lwq1996: It will work. One time.
20:45 LemPhone yeah, those are cool tonsofpcs
20:45 BotSteve wannabe1987: get ready for work
20:45 wannabe1987 thx BotSteve
20:45 BotSteve No problem, wannabe1987
20:46 Toastdude Bye wannabe
20:46 wannabe1987 i leave in 15 min
20:46 wannabe1987 this was a warning....
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20:46 wannabe1987 hi Phu
20:46 tonsofpcs einball: yes, one time and quite spectacularly with enough voltage :D
20:46 Phu hi :)
20:47 LemPhone cool one with LED's
20:47 Phu Linux Studio Box Mk. 3 - Let's hope this one works for longer than 3 days.
20:47 einball tonsofpcs: oh well ... Apply more voltage then they will work twice .... but they will start to smell
20:47 LemPhone if you dip a red led in N2O it goes green
20:47 LemPhone while it's running I mean
20:47 lwq1996 wow i think they are saying these incondesents are led's
20:48 LemPhone LN2 even
20:48 LemPhone back in a while
20:49 * Experimentonomen wirft einen achtball bei einball ;)
20:49 lwq1996 ENGRISH PLEASE
20:49 Electricguy yeah, engRich! ;)
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20:50 lwq1996 AFLACK
20:50 lwq1996 AFLAC
20:50 Electricguy no caps or GTFO :P
20:51 DruidicRifleman hey
20:51 NeWtoz HEY
20:51 Electricguy 'lo
20:51 einball Experimentonomen: it is "auf" instead of "in" .. "in" would be "into me" .. harr iam a grammar nazi :D
20:51 iSasha ELECTRIC GUY, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO TURN OF THE LITTLE GREEN LIGHT ON MY KEYBOARD THAT SAIS CAPS LOCK? IT IS VERY ANNOYING
20:52 NeWtoz IT IS
20:52 Electricguy sure, pull out the IEC plug on the back of the computer. should fix it
20:53 einball yeah .. "HELLO" "Hi .. There is a button with an arrow pointing downwards on your keyboard. press it" "OH YEAH THANKS, NOW IT IS MUCH EASIER"
20:53 Experimentonomen heh
20:53 einball *facepalm*
20:53 iSasha i pressed it and now all my letters seem small and insignificant :(
20:53 Experimentonomen lol
20:53 einball ...like you are
20:54 masterofmonks Who caps?
20:54 * Experimentonomen goes and gets some kokkakkolla from the fridge
20:55 * iSasha goes and gets some Coca Cola from the fridge in the form of a glass bottle
20:55 * tonsofpcs goes and gets some horseradish in the form of a beef on weck from wegmans
20:56 einball ah ... I go to bed now .... Now or never :o)
20:56 Experimentonomen sleepyball ;)
20:56 tonsofpcs einball: didn't you say that 15 hours ago? :-p
20:56 * iSasha goes and opens his fridge to see it filled with beer, coca cola, red bull, cold chocolate, and tons of other things ;)
20:56 einball :)
20:56 einball GOOD NIGHT
20:56 Experimentonomen nite ein
20:56 iSasha *Guten nicht
20:57 iSasha Haben sie ihre geburstag am zug essen?
20:57 CaptainNiobe hey BatSteve :)
20:57 einball ooh and please stop speaking german... thats horrible :D
20:57 BatSteve hey CaptainNiobe
20:58 iSasha What, you mean you have never eaten your breakfast on a train???
20:58 iSasha *your birthday
20:58 einball im and not am!
20:59 iSasha Dude, allen ich habe ist nur drei jahre von deutsch im schule...
20:59 einball Yes! Please stop it XD
20:59 * einball disappears in a stinky cloud
21:00 Electricguy go to bed einball :P
21:00 iSasha Du bist eine einball schlampe xDDD
21:01 iSasha Did I just kill the conversation?
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21:01 NeWtoz my universal translator is not functioning correctly
21:01 iSasha Its because I'm not using the correct spellings so that you can't see that I'm swearing :P
21:04 lwq1996 sasha you fucker -.-
21:04 iSasha :O
21:04 lwq1996 :P
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21:05 Experimentonomen stop it both of you
21:05 wannabe1987 o.O
21:05 iSasha lwq1996, du bist die grossische schlampe in der welt. :D
21:05 wannabe-afk off to work i go
21:05 wannabe-afk stupid internet failed
21:05 Phu if I swear in Klingon, can I join the party? :P
21:05 wannabe-afk bye Toastdude, etc
21:05 wannabe-afk no
21:05 Experimentonomen NO!
21:05 Phu *g*
21:05 wannabe-afk stupid trekkies
21:05 wannabe-afk :P
21:05 NeWtoz HEY!
21:05 * Phu raises eyebrows
21:05 wannabe-afk sorry NeWtoz
21:06 wannabe-afk i'll make you cookies to apologize sometime, k?
21:06 Phu less of the trekkie-hate
21:06 Phu :P
21:06 lwq1996 sasha i dont speak german or what ever the hell you are speaking
21:06 Phu *glances lovingly at the episode collection*
21:06 NeWtoz you say that as I'm watching the series finale of DN9
21:06 wannabe-afk sorry!!!!!
21:06 Electricguy ja ja, ich habe Kacke in meiner Lederhose!!
21:06 wannabe-afk no german.
21:06 Phu NeWtoz: shirley you mean DS9 ?
21:06 wannabe-afk and i have to go or i'll be lete
21:06 wannabe-afk and don't call me shirley!
21:06 NeWtoz yes yes
21:06 wannabe-afk :P
21:06 Electricguy wannabe-afk, i just had to ;)
21:06 lwq1996 CAN WE SPEAK ENGRISH PLEASE
21:06 iSasha Electricguy... so you shat your pants?
21:07 astro73|alice anyone here follow FIRST?
21:07 NeWtoz DS9
21:07 lwq1996 i hae thing about not being able to undertand people
21:07 Electricguy iSasha, you don't say!?
21:07 iSasha Don't say what?
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21:09 iSasha Oh, how about swearing in french?
21:09 lwq1996 oh i can speak a little french but standard shit not much
21:10 Phu NeWtoz: I highly approve of this, the DS9 finale has a quality ending to it concerning all the characters ;)
21:11 iSasha lwq1996, p'tain mec, t'es le plus gros connard dans le monde! Je t'encule, j'encule ta mere, et toute ton village.
21:12 iSasha G2G now, I'll see you guys tmoz
21:13 Electricguy hmmm... i want a pair of hifi wireless headphones to take apart... digital transmission would be nice
21:13 lwq1996 i said basic
21:14 Phu iSasha: you want to do the nasty with my mother and the whole village?
21:14 lwq1996 your a bastard sasha
21:14 Electricguy no no no, iSasha is just one more Seroster :)
21:14 lwq1996 i thought sasha was a girls name
21:14 Electricguy then that sort of rude shit is perfectly normal :)
21:15 lwq1996 lol ik
21:15 Electricguy sasha can be a boys name too
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21:16 lwq1996 ive never heard of a boy nmes sasha or sue
21:18 SparkyProjects lwq1996: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1BJfDvSITY
21:18 BotSteve Title: Johnny Cash - A Boy Named Sue - YouTube
21:18 SparkyProjects :D
21:18 Electricguy lol
21:23 Phu lwq1996: Sacha Baron Cohen (though it's pronounced Sasha)
21:24 Ponko Phu is it coz i is black
21:24 Ponko lol i love that guy
21:24 Phu that'd be the one.
21:24 Phu or "Iss nice!" if you're of the Borat persuasion :)
21:24 Ponko Phu west side is the best
21:24 Ponko lol :P
21:24 Phu I'd give more, but most of it is either racist, sexist, or anti-american :P
21:25 Ponko lol
21:25 Phu viz, "The Kazahk National Anthem" sung to the melody of the USA national anthem ;)
21:25 NeWtoz aww, DS9 is over :(
21:25 Ponko haha lol
21:27 sndwrx Phu: Hahah in the middle of an American rodeo
21:27 NeWtoz Now to start Voyager
21:28 Ponko what was her name NeWtoz
21:28 Ponko Janeway?
21:29 NeWtoz ?
21:30 Ponko the captain in Voyager
21:30 Ponko i know there's 7 of 9
21:30 NeWtoz I don't know, I haven't started Voyager yet
21:30 Ponko O_O oh ok
21:30 Ponko i thought you'd of known
21:31 Seroster Hey lwq1996
21:32 NeWtoz according to wikipedia, yes Ponko
21:32 Ponko ah ok just wanted to make sure
21:32 Seroster Your =! You're/You Are
21:32 SparkyProjects Seroster, storage vid is up :P
21:32 Seroster Great SparkyProjects =)
21:33 SparkyProjects Didn't go as well as i wanted, but it gives an idea
21:35 Ponko link
21:35 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr-klZM_bCA
21:35 BotSteve Title: Workshop Storage - YouTube
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21:41 Ponko tah
21:42 Ponko yep definately can hear the Kentish accent
21:43 Phu NeWtoz: new to the trek then I take it?
21:43 Ponko Phu my mum loves it lol
21:43 NeWtoz yea
21:43 NeWtoz I started a while ago just going through them all
21:43 NeWtoz I've done TOS TNG and now DS9
21:43 Phu I hear that if you had all the episodes from DS9 and Voyager in say DivX AVIs, they'd fill a 250GB HD.
21:43 Phu Not that I'd know *cough*
21:44 NeWtoz and the movies, except for the latest
21:44 Phu NeWtoz: Seven of Nine doesn't come in until the end of Series 3, just in case you're waiting ;)
21:45 Phu how to tell I might possibly be a fan of star trek... my uh hostname is somewhat of a giveaway ;)
21:45 Toastdude .seen yNos
21:45 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw yNos 272.49 hours ago at 2011-12-28 13:16:02 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:45:32 UTC
21:45 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
21:45 BotSteve You're welcome, Toastdude
21:45 Electricguy bedtime! night night all
21:46 Toastdude Night Electricguy
21:46 NeWtoz DS9+Voyager = about 153GB
21:46 NeWtoz for me
21:47 NeWtoz but for me DSN is avi, and Voyager is MKV
21:47 Ponko SparkyProjects: you a fan of the Gills
21:47 NeWtoz DS9*
21:48 NeWtoz silly me
21:48 Ponko N 9 same thing
21:48 Ponko how do you spell 9?
21:50 Monkeh NeWtoz: I've got all of DS9 in nice, high quality x264.
21:50 NeWtoz with a 9
21:50 Ponko -_-
21:51 NeWtoz frankly, I don't know why I don't...
21:51 Monkeh NeWtoz: I'll point you to it later.
21:51 NeWtoz I could get it
21:52 NeWtoz I just wonder why I decided to not
21:52 NeWtoz oh well
21:52 NeWtoz It's not like I missed much
21:53 NeWtoz I guess I had a pattern going
21:54 NeWtoz TOS: avi, TNG: mkv, DN9: avi, Voy: mkv
21:58 Toastdude .seen rageriot
21:58 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw nick:rageriot 2495.58 hours ago at 2011-09-26 22:23:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:58:18 UTC
21:58 Toastdude Thanks BotSteve
21:58 BotSteve No problem, Toastdude
22:03 NeWtoz .c 50*79+178*45+45*176
22:03 BotSteve 19 880
22:03 NeWtoz .c 19880/60
22:03 BotSteve 331.333333
22:03 NeWtoz approx 331 hrs of Star Trek
22:04 NeWtoz .c 19880/60/24
22:04 BotSteve 13.8055556
22:05 Ponko 13 days
22:05 Ponko well
22:05 Ponko give or take 14
22:05 NeWtoz that is a large margin of error
22:06 Ponko always the way
22:06 Ponko but the lions have a large margin of error
22:06 Ponko lol :P
22:06 Ponko i have respect for them now
22:07 NeWtoz just gotta work on that secondary
22:07 Ponko yep
22:07 NeWtoz secondary and oline
22:07 Ponko NFL is a passing league you have that sort of down but need variety and a defense to stop the pass
22:08 Ponko the oline needs to be like NE
22:08 Ponko Tom Brady goes untouched most of the game
22:13 Cprossu yNos and egrsteve|lurking that laserjet 8000 series that you got in,
22:13 Cprossu make sure it doesn't get parted out
22:13 Cprossu that's a hell of a good printer
22:13 Cprossu if the feed rollers are out on it it's a $15 fix
22:14 Ponko can i just say on youtube vids i HATE commercials but on tgg vids i watch and enjoy them
22:14 Ponko they're home grown too
22:14 Cprossu the toners are good for 150k pages
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22:16 NeWtoz I don't get the youtube commercials
22:16 NeWtoz and I'm thinking about going to the movies
22:16 NeWtoz I wonder what I should see
22:16 NeWtoz there are a lot of good movies out right now
22:19 NeWtoz and it's not like I don't have 2 year old movies sitting on my file server that I haven't even watched yet
22:21 Ponko Mission Impossible
22:21 Ponko Ghost Protocol
22:21 Ponko NeWtoz you refering to tgg vids commercials?
22:22 NeWtoz I was thinking that, The girl with the dragon tattoo, Sherlock Holmes, and even We Bought a Zoo
22:22 NeWtoz yeah
22:22 Ponko ok
22:22 Ponko omg Sherlock Holmes is epic :)
22:22 NeWtoz I've never noticed them
22:22 Katemonster We Bought a Zoo; right up there with Snakes on a Plane
22:22 Katemonster literal title is literal
22:24 DruidicRifleman Hey Cprossu i figured something out
22:24 DruidicRifleman an automated solution to the window problem if the lab was attacked by zombies
22:24 DruidicRifleman Sadly it would only work in minecraft
22:25 DruidicRifleman Automatted Cobble stone generatorUnder ever window
22:27 SparkyProjects Ponko, i'm not a fan of any sports.
22:27 SparkyProjects And i don't know how i have a kentish accent, i was born in Kent, mum was Geordie, Dad was Buckingham, and we moved away from Kent when i was 2 :P
22:27 Ponko hmm
22:27 Ponko maybe that was it the Bucks accent
22:29 SparkyProjects Most say i have a slight Geordie or northeast twang
22:30 Ponko tbh i didn't have headphones on
22:34 Sgt_Lemming bleh, had to come all the way home because I forgot my health care card >_<
22:36 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | MEMBER BLOGS http://is.gd/tggblogs | yes, dr_jkl knows the website is down. yes, it will be back up soon.
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22:40 Ponko dr_jkl: didn't it even say on the topic that it would be down today?
22:40 NeWtoz dr_jkl, did you know that the site is down?
22:41 reesk92 joined #thegeekgroup
22:41 reesk92 is people aware that the site is well..... dead
22:43 NeWtoz maybe not, should let dr_jkl know
22:43 reesk92 its reverted to the infantile state where it only says it works!
22:44 reesk92 im gussing they do cause it seems theyve wiped the home directory m
22:44 NeWtoz yes, she is very well aware
22:44 NeWtoz as noted in the topic
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22:45 reesk92 ahh
22:45 reesk92 how can i contact chris i had a awesome idea for his 3d model of tgg building
22:46 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, i hate sports, so boring and pointless
22:46 Ponko is it me or weren't people told today the site would be down for maintenance?
22:47 Ponko reesk92 if you have fb you can ask chris in person
22:49 reesk92 thanks
22:53 NeWtoz actually, I don't think FB and 'in person' have anything to do with each other
22:54 Experimentonomen fb sucks! :P
22:54 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | MEMBER BLOGS http://is.gd/tggblogs | YES DR_JKL KNOWS THE SITE IS DOWN, YES IT WILL BE UP SOON.
22:54 NeWtoz :)
22:55 dr_jkl next person to ask is getting punched in the face
22:55 dr_jkl every time someone highlights me it makes me stop working
22:58 Ponko dr_jkl: i knew it would be down
22:58 Ponko i READ the topic
22:58 Ponko and well NeWtoz he's not on here now is he?
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23:00 NeWtoz I am
23:01 NeWtoz I knew about it, I was just screwing with her
23:04 Ponko lol :P
23:04 Ponko reesk92 has an idea for Chris not you lol
23:04 reesk92 hmm
23:04 lwq1996 dr_jkl the site is down
23:05 lwq1996 :P
23:05 Toastdude ...
23:05 lwq1996 just because im a dick
23:05 reesk92 i already spoke to chris its being done aparently
23:05 reesk92 epic minds think alike it seems
23:05 lwq1996 was kicked by dr_jkl: /topic
23:05 Experimentonomen lol
23:05 dr_jkl christ
23:05 reesk92 hmm
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23:05 lwq1996 bitch cant take a joke -.-
23:05 lwq1996 jk :P
23:07 reesk92 dr_jkl:die Website ist ab
23:07 lwq1996 ist ab?
23:07 dr_jkl yes, i know it's abgefuckt
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23:07 reesk92 aparetly the feindly germans dont have a efficiant word for website
23:08 Monkeh dr_jkl: Exciting update?
23:08 reesk92 da website isht fukenstein
23:10 dr_jkl Monkeh: something lik ethat
23:10 Monkeh Ah, crap, I've got phpBB to do again.
23:10 * Monkeh groans
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23:13 reesk92 i find this humourous
23:14 reesk92 not 2 hours ago i was thinking of sending a email to see if i could help out around the website then it breaks soooo gla di idnt send that email
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23:14 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Big hammer of science :D
23:14 SparkyProjects ;-)
23:15 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Should get a big hammer of science with a fibreglass handle, for the HV stuff. ;D
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23:17 SparkyProjects Actually, that one has some sort of solid plastic handle with a rubber grip, so i would say it's insulated :P
23:17 SparkyProjects Actually bought that one from Focus (a few years before they closed)
23:18 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Ah, okay, didn't see it too clearly.
23:18 Ponko http://imgur.com/c816q disclaimer click at your own risk
23:18 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
23:19 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Poor Focus. Couldn't have happened to a nicer store. Pardon me while I go repair my sarcasmometer.
23:20 Seroster Phew
23:20 Seroster Daamn that was awesome
23:20 Seroster Finding one microwave oven in the garbage is fun
23:20 Seroster Finding two is awesome
23:21 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Yargh, SCART. Nasty stuff.
23:21 Seroster Finding three is insanely kickass..
23:21 Seroster Today I found FOUR mirowaves xD
23:21 SparkyProjects I remember when it was called 'Do It All' i sent an email to head office, i asked them 'how can i do it all if you haven't got it all' (i had said a bit more about the availability of DIY materials), a few months later they changed the name :P
23:21 Seroster I love my dumpster
23:21 Monkeh SparkyProjects: heheheh.
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23:24 SparkyProjects Scart was ok for what it was, allowed connection of many formats from a single connector, and i liked the way it changed the channel when you power the player.
23:24 SparkyProjects Just that i think it should have been designed better, the plugs kept falling out when you moved things
23:25 Monkeh SparkyProjects: The whole connector design is terrible.
23:25 SparkyProjects I have a couple of multimedia monitors that use RCA and scart, so i'll keep a few scart plugs for those (might just make adaptors)
23:26 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Hard to insert, hard to find which way around the socket is, overly heavy cables and connectors usually break the sockets fairly quickly, and the side exit was often a real problem.
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23:26 SparkyProjects If they had made a slightly larger D-type, including the retaining screws, that would have worked for me
23:27 Monkeh The few SCART things I still use I use flat cables with, so much nicer.
23:27 Monkeh Still a horrific connector to use.
23:28 SparkyProjects Yeah, i could never understand the side entry, except that there were a few TV's (early) that had them vertical
23:29 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Worst thing is, the only good cables were really, really thick and heavy.
23:29 Monkeh I've got a couple of ones Virgin provided a few years ago, they look like 16mm2 SWA.
23:29 Monkeh (three core no less)
23:29 Monkeh Don't weigh much less either!
23:29 Monkeh Just got ridiculous
23:30 SparkyProjects Yeah, the full (all connected) with coax for audio and video were huge, yet the modern full ones were just a multicore with overall screen were very small.
23:31 Monkeh HDMI isn't much better unfortunately
23:31 Monkeh They go way, way overboard on the size of the cables for short runs and the connector is just plain flimsy
23:32 Monkeh They could do 2m with a piece of cat5e for that bandwidth, and they have these huge almost unbendable cables instead
23:33 SparkyProjects Unbendable and heavy, and no way to retain the plug, if you were lucky the back of the equipment had a hook to take the weight of the cable :P
23:37 Phu I'm familiar with SCART.
23:37 Phu I make SCART leads for retro computers and consoles, seeing as RGB is somewhat clearer than RF for display.
23:37 Phu so I kinda have the pinout memorized. And yes, that connector can blow me.
23:39 Monkeh Phu: It's the real reason us brits hate the French.
23:39 Phu <--- brit, from Portsmouth ;)
23:40 Monkeh :)
23:40 Monkeh One of these days I'll make a trip to France and leave all my SCART connectors with them.
23:40 Phu The connector's purpose is good.... an all-in-one AV connector. It's just the plug that sucks.
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23:40 Monkeh I'll just take a few buckets around and spread them all over the streets.
23:40 Seroster I... I got four microwaves
23:40 Monkeh THey filled our country with them, they can have 'em back!
23:40 Seroster And the cores are still frozen
23:40 Phu Oh... and here's a challenge.... I'm building a 16-input AV switcher. Think I can fit 16 SCART socketrs on the back of a 1U rackmount box?
23:41 Monkeh Phu: I.. Don't think so.
23:41 Monkeh Phu: You could, however, fit 16 decent sockets and make adapter cables to SCART for the pins you actually need.
23:42 Phu That's what I thought... that's why I'm going for 9-pin D connectors ;)
23:43 Monkeh Phu: :)
23:43 Phu All I need is R, G, B, Sync, L, R, Ground and RGB enable.
23:43 Monkeh Phu: Y'know, you can get IDC ones. So handy.
23:44 Phu Well, I'm planning to get 16 mini PCBs made up with the switch electronics on them, so I'm going to use solderable types, but jam the PCB between the two rows, then mount the whole assembly vertically.
23:45 Monkeh Phu: You can of course use HD15 if you need more pins.
23:45 * Monkeh likes D-sub connectors
23:45 Phu nah, don't need the extra pins.
23:46 Monkeh Oh, ouch, you can get DE19. That has got to be a pain to solder.
23:46 Phu the 13-pin DIN plugs used on the Atari ST are a pain in the arse to solder.
23:47 Phu (Also used on some MIDI equipment I believe)
23:56 DruidicRifleman the lab needsa robot that goes up to cory tests for flatus levels and then spray
23:56 DruidicRifleman 's air freshener at him
23:57 eadthem methane sensor

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