Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-01-09

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00:00 Hackbat joined #thegeekgroup
00:10 DruidicRifleman yeah
00:12 DruidicRifleman .minecraft
00:12 BotSteve DruidicRifleman: Legacy TGG minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: UP
00:12 BotSteve DruidicRifleman: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
00:19 Monkeh .. damnit
00:19 Monkeh I was looking for bad caps on my PSU, I didn't realise they'd be so small. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-km1L3Gi9Esg/Twox8tdKUxI/AAAAAAAAAXs/NxsElbYsxCk/s1024/IMG_20120109_001522.jpg
00:22 Seroster Sec monkeh
00:22 Seroster Yeah, those tiny bastards wont change much
00:22 Monkeh (and yes, I did scratch the PCB getting it out)
00:23 Seroster (Yes they do but they are not as prone to faliure as the bigass lytics)=
00:23 Seroster Bah, that scratch will be fine
00:23 Monkeh Yeah, it's just the top of some solder
00:23 Monkeh This leaves me pondering why it won't boot cold
00:23 Seroster What kinda psu is it?
00:24 Monkeh Seroster: Enermax Modu82+ 625W
00:24 Seroster Whats its use?
00:24 Monkeh Seroster: Gaming rig.
00:24 Seroster As in "computer"?
00:24 Monkeh .. Yes, I use an ATX PSU as an ATX PSU. :P
00:24 Seroster =P
00:25 Monkeh My GTX280 is apparently a bit much for it then, I'd expect any cap failure to be visible
00:25 Seroster So, it died while in the computer?
00:25 Monkeh It still runs.
00:25 Monkeh It just won't cold boot.
00:25 Seroster What is a cold boot?
00:26 Monkeh Seroster: Booting with the caps empty.
00:26 Seroster ^o)
00:26 Seroster How do you hot boot something?
00:26 Monkeh Seroster: Warm boot. You don't let the caps discharge.
00:27 Seroster ....Right...
00:27 Monkeh Seroster: Shut a PC down and the caps still have charge in them for a while. Drain 'em by trying to turn it on with no AC, and it's a cold boot next time round.
00:27 Monkeh Let it sit a while so they discharge, and it's a cold boot.
00:27 Monkeh Boot a PC, wait 10 seconds, hit the reset button. Warm boot.
00:27 Seroster Most caps discharge over a few hours, or faster.
00:30 Monkeh Weird construction, this. Some of it was soldered in place.
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00:36 Cprossu hey yNos did I see an old cool phone system in there that you could use to make an exchange?!!?!?!?!
00:37 Zugan_ captains blog is out
00:51 Seroster Those MOTs are STILL frozen
00:53 Seroster I think my MOT collection hit 26 now
00:54 dr_jkl do y'all hate me yet
00:54 sndwrx ?
00:57 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | MEMBER BLOGS http://is.gd/tggblogs | website maintenance mostly finished, report problems to jkl at tgg
00:58 Seroster Gello jkl
00:58 Seroster Didnt know that you did webside programming
00:58 dr_jkl heya seroster
00:58 Seroster Lesbo nerd.
00:58 dr_jkl i make the site go.
01:00 Seroster =)
01:00 Seroster And we love you for it
01:00 BatSteve some of us more blatantly than others
01:00 BatSteve (:
01:00 SparkyProjects dr_jkl: Are we ever gong to get back to the older forum layout ? (categories and boards) ?
01:00 SparkyProjects Just a question
01:01 dr_jkl so with this latest round of maintance i think i've fixed the issue which was intermittently making the whole site go down
01:01 BatSteve SparkyProjects: I am going to predict the future.  The answer to your question will be:  No.
01:01 dr_jkl SparkyProjects: the way the forums are right now is how they're likely to stay  for the forseeable future.
01:01 dr_jkl (batsteve's answer is more or less correct)
01:01 BatSteve I am a master of psychicness.
01:02 dr_jkl there's only a limited number of forums for wordpress and the one we are using right now does everything we want while sucking the least out of all the other options
01:02 NeWtoz can we at least get a 'posts since last visit' thing?
01:02 NeWtoz or, can I
01:02 dr_jkl depends how much interest there is in it
01:03 NeWtoz well, speaking for everyone, there is ;)
01:03 SparkyProjects NeWtoz: Best thing to do is view the member portal, that's where i base myself since the change
01:03 dr_jkl email me about it
01:03 dr_jkl jkl at tgg
01:03 dr_jkl and i'll see what i can do
01:04 dr_jkl you may be waiting a while. currently, demands on my time are great.
01:04 BatSteve dr_jkl: in all the changes, I've lost track.  Do you know if there is a way to subscribe to an RSS feed of the entire forum, rather than just one particular thread?
01:04 BatSteve (since we're asking questions and all)
01:05 dr_jkl uh
01:05 dr_jkl perhaps
01:05 NeWtoz SparkyProjects, thanks, didn't know that existed in that manner
01:05 Toastdude BatSteve!
01:08 BatSteve Toastdude!
01:10 Ponko hmm Batty
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01:17 LemPhone bleh, numb lemming
01:20 tonsofpcs wegmans carries milka :D
01:33 Ponko The kurgen he's the strongest of all the immortals, he is, the perfect warrior, if he wins the prize mortal man would suffer an eternity darkness.
01:34 Ponko how do you beat such a savage?
01:34 Ponko with heart faith and steel
01:35 Ponko there was young man from gosham
01:35 Ponko who took out his... false teeth wash 'em
01:37 Ponko his wife said Jack if you don't put 'em back i'll stand on the buggers and squash 'em
01:38 Sgt_Lemming oi DruidicRifleman, you wanted something?
01:38 DruidicRifleman we might do home hacker spaces of TGG members
01:38 Sgt_Lemming mmm, and?
01:39 tonsofpcs DruidicRifleman: huh?
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01:42 tesla4d Hey, guys. Really quickly, does anybody have a recommendation for motherboard manufacturer to go with a Sandy Bridge Intel chip?
01:44 Sgt_Lemming gigabyte
01:46 Ponko NeWtoz: you there?
01:48 tesla4d Sgt_Lemming: Thanks for the input. Gigabyte seems to have a lot of one-star reviews on newegg.com related to quality control. It's a little worrying.
01:49 Sgt_Lemming tesla4d, never had a problem with my gigabyte boards
01:49 NeWtoz Ponko, maybe
01:49 Ponko lol
01:50 Killa Click click click....goes the computer fan just before it fully turns off...
01:50 egrsteve|lurking hello
01:50 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
01:50 BotSteve At 08 Jan 18:07Z, iSasha asked me to tell egrsteve that has come seeking for your expert advice. How could he join several wifi networks (completely separate ones) into a single LAN?
01:51 Sgt_Lemming also, asus boards in my experience tend to be heavy on "features" not heavy on stability and reliability
01:51 Sgt_Lemming MSI boards aren't worth considering imho, intel boards are a let down, zotac boards are nice, but really only useful in mini-itx sizes
01:51 Killa I would assume a computer fan is fine if it clicks when its been turned off, on the low speed
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01:52 Killa (Me has asus motherboard)
01:52 tehdark45 -/me *whatever*
01:52 Killa Yeah I know
01:52 tehdark45 lol
01:53 egrsteve|lurking BotSteve: tell iSasha That is better question for Ynos to explain, but you have to bridge the networks so they act as one. yNos will be able to explain the process better
01:53 Killa Didn't feel like using the /
01:53 BotSteve egrsteve|lurking: I'll pass that on when iSasha is around.
01:53 tonsofpcs Killa: any noise I hear from a CPU fan, I shut the machine and find a replacement
01:53 tonsofpcs there are certain things I won't mess around with, that's one of them.
01:54 tonsofpcs case fans you just open the case for airflow, maybe even add one or two while you wait on parts.
01:54 egrsteve|lurking FYI people in GRR there will be a ham in a day class on feb 2
01:54 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, what if it is an atom?
01:54 tonsofpcs egrsteve|lurking: going to have 3 VECs?
01:54 tonsofpcs tehdark45: if it has a fan, it has a fan for a reason.
01:54 Killa Its psu fan. My CPU doesn't have a fan. And its quiet when on,  its just the last final 360 spin when its shuts down
01:54 egrsteve|lurking it is being hosted by RACES not us
01:54 tehdark45 just blow on it, it will be fine
01:55 tehdark45 lol
01:55 tonsofpcs also, hmm...Feb 2 is a thursday :(
01:55 * tonsofpcs needs to get a ham ticket
01:55 egrsteve|lurking sorry 19th
01:55 egrsteve|lurking 2/19
01:55 egrsteve|lurking not 2/2
01:55 egrsteve|lurking I can't read
01:55 Seroster I got a furby <3
01:55 Ponko you're lurking thats why you can't read
01:55 tehdark45 egrsteve|lurking, it is ok
01:55 * egrsteve|lurking should get his VEC
01:56 tehdark45 Seroster, enjoying the 90s?
01:56 Killa I exploded my last Furby..
01:56 Seroster Lol
01:56 Seroster Damn norwegians
01:56 tehdark45 Killa, with 144,000,000 watts?
01:57 Killa No. With 2000v 10000J
01:57 Seroster tehdark45, I intend to either circuit bend it or if that fails, put it as a hood ornament on my bicykle. And if not that I'll throw it in my 13kv motstack
01:57 tesla4d Your bicycle has a hood?
01:57 Seroster ... No, but it has a steering wheel? =P
01:58 Killa Feed it to my Marx generator..
01:58 Seroster Oooooh, my mots have thawed
01:58 Killa When its done...still building stages
01:58 Sgt_Lemming thawed...?
01:59 Seroster Yeah, as in reached over 0deg c?
01:59 Sgt_Lemming what'd you do? put them in the freezer?
01:59 tehdark45 Seroster, why are your mots below room temp?
01:59 Seroster Because they were outside before they got inside? =P
01:59 tehdark45 Seroster, why?
01:59 Killa Good point
02:00 Killa I use to store mine outside as well
02:00 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, you need to put them all under mineral oil :-P
02:00 Seroster Because I don't go dumpster diving indoors? =P
02:00 tehdark45 ah
02:00 tehdark45 yeah you can do that
02:00 Seroster Screw that lemming, I managed hexastack in air
02:00 Sgt_Lemming did you actually pul big arcs off it yet?
02:00 tehdark45 but some crazy people see that as stealing
02:00 tehdark45 :P
02:00 Killa I bought my mots,  4, all the same make, 25 dollars each.
02:01 tehdark45 plus tax?
02:01 tehdark45 :P
02:01 DruidicRifleman lemming
02:01 Sgt_Lemming tehdark45, we pulled a 90 watt krypton laser from a dumpster recently :-P
02:01 Killa Why?  Parents. So I eBay bypassed them. And said they are others
02:01 Killa No tax
02:01 DruidicRifleman we might be making minecraft modelsof hacker spaces
02:02 Sgt_Lemming ours is reasonably easy :-P
02:02 Sgt_Lemming it's a 300m² warehouse with one internal wall
02:02 tehdark45 90 watt? pfft your mains is 230, you can do more than 90 :P
02:03 Killa Wish I had 3 phase 230..
02:03 Sgt_Lemming tehdark45, you do realise that's 90 watts of output... and it takes 6000 watts of input to get 90 watts output
02:03 tehdark45 well there is that
02:03 Sgt_Lemming 208v DC at 30A
02:04 Sgt_Lemming not so easy to generate...
02:04 Ponko night time awaits
02:04 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, string all your sockets in series and make them all terminate at one point :P
02:04 Sgt_Lemming ...
02:05 Sgt_Lemming we have three phase in the building tehdark45, and 30A power points
02:05 Sgt_Lemming the powerpoint is not a problem
02:05 Sgt_Lemming making 208v DC is
02:05 Killa I just ment at my house, lol
02:05 Sgt_Lemming if we use a single phase and recitfy it, that's ~280v DC
02:05 Seroster Hm
02:05 DruidicRifleman Yeah but that way people can be like WOW
02:05 Sgt_Lemming if we use three phase and rectify that, that's 580v DC
02:06 DruidicRifleman you guys do cool stuff
02:06 Seroster Eh, Sgt_Lemming I did pull some arcs, I even melted my electrodes
02:06 Sgt_Lemming lol
02:06 DruidicRifleman also looking into a garys mod map
02:06 BatSteve time to go
02:06 tehdark45 DruidicRifleman, Hammer is a bitch
02:06 Seroster Aw
02:06 Seroster Cya battie
02:06 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=say0lHRt9yU
02:06 BotSteve Title: HexaMOTstack first light - YouTube
02:07 Killa Why?  Hammer is easy...
02:07 Sgt_Lemming yeah, saw that one Seroster
02:07 Sgt_Lemming now... how much would you gimme for a board that can rectify it? :-P
02:07 Killa I learned it age 6 for halflife 1, then halflife 2 when it released lol
02:07 Seroster Thats arc pulling, eh?
02:07 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, I have 25 healthy MOTs
02:08 Seroster I've scrapped at least a dozen that died during previous testing
02:08 Seroster ...Now, with every MOT came a capacitor, and a diode.
02:08 Sgt_Lemming heh
02:08 tehdark45 Killa, are you 20 this year by any chance?
02:08 Sgt_Lemming cockroft walton?
02:08 Killa My biggest is quad stack,  45 inch arcs :/
02:08 Seroster I can CW AND rectify it
02:08 Killa Yup. I am
02:08 tehdark45 1992 FTW!
02:08 Sgt_Lemming bullshit Killa, you'll get maybe 12 inches off a quadstack
02:08 Seroster .c 45in to cm
02:08 Sgt_Lemming I've done it
02:09 BotSteve 114.3 centimeters
02:09 Seroster Good year, tehdark45
02:09 Killa Oh your so dumb then :)
02:09 Killa No ballast. Resonant caps
02:09 Seroster Killa, If you got arcs over a meter with four mots... What the fuck did you feed them?
02:09 Seroster Ah
02:09 Killa Heh
02:09 tehdark45 can BotSteve do cubic?
02:09 Killa Caps, the key.
02:09 Seroster How do you get it resonant?
02:10 Seroster tehdark45, Square roots?
02:10 Seroster .c sqrt 2
02:10 BotSteve 1.41421356
02:10 tehdark45 no conversions
02:10 Killa 1uF caps until I got the most out
02:10 Seroster Paralell? Series?
02:10 Sgt_Lemming killa, people struggle to pull 45" arcs off a tesla coil
02:10 Killa Ended up being 4kv  1uF on each leg
02:10 Sgt_Lemming there is no way in hell you will get 45" arcs off a quad mot stack
02:10 Killa Lol. I've done 6ft off my coil
02:11 Sgt_Lemming no matter how you wire it
02:11 Killa Resonant caps.
02:11 tehdark45 .c 300 m2 ft2
02:11 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
02:11 tehdark45 nope
02:11 tehdark45 doesnt
02:11 Seroster Oh. That sucks, tehdark45.
02:11 Seroster And its a pain in the ass.
02:11 Killa Blew 150-0-150 50A after 2 arcs
02:11 Sgt_Lemming mainly because the transformers will arc internally
02:11 Seroster .g m2 to ft2 converter
02:11 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.metric-conversions.org/area/square-meters-to-square-feet.htm
02:11 tehdark45 .c 300 m2  to ft2
02:11 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
02:12 Seroster The rule is that ANY conversion problem you have some sorry bastard has had before.
02:12 Killa Dude. They don't arc inside.
02:12 Sgt_Lemming .c 300m² to ft²
02:12 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
02:12 Sgt_Lemming bah
02:12 Killa Learn how arc length works. Current
02:12 Sgt_Lemming fail BotSteve
02:12 Seroster .c 300m2 to ft2
02:12 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
02:13 tehdark45 yeah so Seroster lab is 3.2k ft2 for you americans
02:13 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, You can pull a 4kv arc five meters if you got the amps for it, and it doesnt take more insulation than any 4kv 10ma arc
02:13 tehdark45 :P
02:13 Seroster ...Who are you calling american, motherfucker?
02:13 Seroster Don't mess with the vikings!
02:13 tehdark45 Seroster, not you?
02:13 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, you of all people should know that a 45" arc off 4 MOT's is kinda impossible
02:13 Killa 20-24 is easy off 2 as well
02:14 tehdark45 I know your not american >.<
02:14 Seroster If you got the amps you probably can =P
02:14 Killa Isn't impossible with resonant caps. Learn.
02:14 Seroster But I happen to be doubtful until shown video proof, sorry killakee =P
02:14 Sgt_Lemming a MOT will not handle that amperage, and resonant caps don't magically add more amperage
02:15 Killa I was on 120 0 120. 50A a leg. Each leg ran 2 mots
02:15 tehdark45 pfft, I make 45' arcs in my bedroom
02:15 Sgt_Lemming killa, your MOT's would have burnt out long before you hit 50A
02:15 Sgt_Lemming shit, they'd burn out at 5A
02:15 Killa Wow. you really are dumb haha. Have you never put res caps on a mot
02:15 Killa Bs
02:16 Killa I'm running like 2 secs. Not constant
02:16 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX3R_E7t7Fk
02:16 BotSteve Title: Dual MOTs with resonant cap. - YouTube
02:16 Sgt_Lemming when I see video proof, I'll believe it
02:16 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, Oh wanna bet on that 5a statement? =P
02:17 Sgt_Lemming eh, mebe at 110v, but I've burnt out a few on 5A @ 240v
02:17 Killa Yup. I kicked 20A breakers with my dual.
02:17 Sgt_Lemming and he's pulling 12" arcs at most
02:18 Killa Hold. Switching to rant.
02:19 Killa-X joined #thegeekgroup
02:19 Killa-X Ah, much better to have a keyboard thena  touch screen.
02:19 Killa-X PLEASE dont tell me i read you said 12" arcs at most with a dual
02:19 Sgt_Lemming the video that Seroster linked was 12" arcs
02:20 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, bet Seroster 5 Krona
02:20 Killa-X ya. very tiny for a dual..
02:20 tehdark45 lololol
02:20 SparkyProjects You can kick a 20 amp breaker with 10 amps when using highly inductive loads, unless you have 'motor rated' breakers, but those aren't normal in domestic instalations
02:20 Seroster Killa, show me a 1.1meter arc with two mots and a few caps and I will visit you, with a femkrona AND give you the best damn blowjob ever. =)
02:21 Killa-X when your pulling >20A during arc draw with a dual stack, your doing it right.
02:21 Seroster SparkyProjects, Here all my breakers are slow
02:21 Killa-X the one i used was a slowblow as well, schools
02:22 Killa-X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYN-iwrhvKI
02:22 BotSteve Title: MOT stack tries to arc ICE - YouTube
02:22 tehdark45 So schools are trying to kill students with slow breakers?
02:22 Killa-X ice isnt very conductive..
02:22 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, 45" is 1.325 meters
02:23 Killa-X that bowl ya see there be a 3x7 for scale reference.
02:23 Killa-X anywho
02:24 SparkyProjects That was moew like arc to metal plate under the ice
02:24 Killa-X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BRHQxjyg6s is one of my oldest videos showing my dual
02:24 BotSteve Title: MOT arcing - Now on 15A!!! - YouTube
02:24 Killa-X note the tiny insulators on it are 2.35 inches tall. feel free to caliper the screen and get exact lengths
02:25 Sgt_Lemming that arc is starting to break long before you get to the 2 foot mark
02:25 Sgt_Lemming that is what I would expect
02:25 Killa-X it breaks at about 15
02:26 Killa-X and i only got 1 video of my quad stack.
02:26 Sgt_Lemming doubling the current, doesn't mean you get three times the length
02:26 Killa-X which was at school, ballasted, on 120-0-120 20A
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02:27 Killa-X the ballasted school one, which killed the breaker after 1 arc (during the middle of arcing actually) was a 32" pull, not counting the wiggly arc
02:27 Killa-X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmmbtOIH5DQ you will see this at 2:00 and a few mins after that
02:28 BotSteve Title: MOT quad stack - SloMo Only - YouTube
02:28 Killa-X 1/2" PVC pipe.
02:28 Killa-X but i ran out of upward movement to pull it up :P arc went up faster lol
02:28 Killa-X just far too much current for the 30A :(
02:29 Killa-X i didnt have enough capacitors...at the time
02:30 Killa-X i can easily get you a video of 4ft arcs from quad stacks. it just wont be for awhile, i need to buy a replacement mot :P
02:31 Sgt_Lemming buy them?
02:31 Sgt_Lemming sif not salvage them
02:31 Killa-X yup
02:31 Killa-X i prefer a matching pair of all equal mots
02:33 SparkyProjects heh, i worked out it was cheaper in the long run to buy a new cheap microwave than a new MOT (same price, but you get all the other stuff thrown in, motor, fan, capacitor, diode, magnetron etc) :D
02:34 Killa-X likely. but parents still denies it unless i ebay a microwave :P
02:36 Killa-X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKSn8OkBeQg if you go to 8:00, it depends what you count for distance. Point to point, or the actual arc?  I count the arc.  This isnt my video.
02:36 BotSteve Title: Triple Resonant MOTs (Giant Arcs!) - YouTube
02:38 Killa-X ive added too much caps to my dual stack before that my variac pinned the meter (30A) and kicked off my 20A instantly :D
02:39 SparkyProjects I count the arc as the distance between points with a maintained arc, in that vid at 8.09 (just before arc breaks) is about 3 feet at best
02:39 SparkyProjects The rest of the length i consider as flame-out
02:39 Killa-X hm, some cases.
02:39 * Seroster yawns
02:39 Killa-X the flame- out is still you know, arc :P
02:40 Killa-X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SYa_kvPLVM as seen in my video here :)
02:40 BotSteve Title: Super low shutter + Mot + Slowmo = Cool! - YouTube
02:40 Seroster Hey Killa-X If we ever get together some day and make sparks Ill make sure to bring a dolly with my motcollection =P
02:40 Killa-X hehehe
02:41 Killa-X i havnt touch a mot in a year :(
02:41 Killa-X ive been too busy with life and other projects
02:41 SparkyProjects When you get your quad stack working, see how close you have to be to instigate an arc, and see how far apart the electrodes can be with a maintained arc
02:41 SparkyProjects And use something as a ruler for measurement
02:41 Sgt_Lemming maintained arc is what I measure
02:41 Killa-X atm im rebuilding my DRSSTC
02:41 Killa-X it broke 6-7ft in TGG's lab, upgrading.
02:41 SparkyProjects Sgt_Lemming: yep, me too :)
02:42 Killa-X my next goal is 10ft.
02:42 Killa-X http://i.imgur.com/nhjpe.jpg as my weapon of choice.
02:43 Seroster I want to make a CW voltage multiplier
02:43 Killa-X same :) summer project
02:43 Sgt_Lemming Killa-X, I am working on a DRSSTC atm
02:43 Killa-X i already ordered 10 ferrite cores for the amplifier for the QCW
02:43 Sgt_Lemming 580v DC input at 44A
02:43 Killa-X ahhh
02:43 Killa-X my system here is a 1200A
02:43 Killa-X my next summer coil is a 3000A :P
02:44 Killa-X primary..current
02:44 Sgt_Lemming this is the mains input...
02:44 Killa-X know
02:44 Killa-X i only feed my coils with 120 sadly
02:44 Killa-X at TGG, i only did 120V 5-6A
02:44 Killa-X my next coil i intend to be 240V at breakers max
02:45 Sgt_Lemming this 415v three phase
02:45 Killa-X http://i.imgur.com/4MIl1.jpg MMC for my next coil
02:45 Killa-X about 100 pounds of eurofarads
02:46 Killa-X will have a fullbridge of semikrons rated 1200V 450A
02:46 Sgt_Lemming http://appsumo.com/~b9r4
02:46 BotSteve Title: How about a MacBook Air for you and me?
02:47 Killa-X lol..
02:47 Sgt_Lemming eh, I win it and I'll be happy
02:47 Killa-X i would just sell it..if i ever got a one ;)
02:47 Sgt_Lemming amusing one is it can't really live up to it's promise
02:48 Sgt_Lemming I probably would too :-P
02:48 Killa-X not a mac fan, personally
02:48 Killa-X mainly due to programs i use, and i game..
02:49 Sgt_Lemming you can install windows on every mac these days
02:49 Sgt_Lemming or linux
02:49 Sgt_Lemming or whatever floats your OS boat
02:49 Killa-X my gpu cant even fit in a mac.
02:49 Cprossu well that was fun!
02:49 Killa-X maybe...maybe the towers
02:51 Sgt_Lemming Killa-X, you can put 3 dual slot cards in a Mac Pro
02:51 Sgt_Lemming upto 15" long cards
02:52 Seroster Did you just send a referral link?
02:52 Sgt_Lemming yes, yes I did
02:52 Killa-X gotcha
02:52 Sgt_Lemming appsuno is a respectable brand most of the time
02:52 Seroster Do it again and Ill kick your ass =P
02:52 Killa-X can you even stick nvidia/radeon cards into a mac to begin with? i wouldnt know
02:52 Sgt_Lemming yes, you can
02:52 Sgt_Lemming they are standard x86 machines thes days
02:52 Seroster 12kv motstack
02:52 Killa-X problem is i tihnk the mac pro starts at a high..high cost
02:53 Sgt_Lemming yes, yes it does
02:53 Seroster For one diode Ill need six diodes in series
02:53 Sgt_Lemming cheapest one is about 3k
02:53 Killa-X yeah..
02:53 sndwrx Or you can run OS X on non-Apple hardware and save a boatload... If you MUST have OS X.
02:53 Killa-X thats 2X of my PC
02:53 Seroster And... Six capacitors
02:53 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, I have some (afaik) 100kV rated bridge rectifiers here :-D
02:53 Sgt_Lemming want one? :-P
02:53 Seroster How much?
02:53 Killa-X me? never. lol
02:53 Seroster And picture?
02:54 * Seroster stalks Killa-X's mom on facebook
02:54 Seroster I need a hostage.
02:54 Killa-X she doesnt even have a facebook. sorry :D
02:54 Killa-X my parents arnt into that stuff :P
02:54 Seroster And it's lemming who has the rectifiers
02:54 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/HighVoltage?authkey=Gv1sRgCPrB2cGQnNzJ1QE
02:54 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming . - High Voltage
02:54 Seroster So I dont know what good taking killas mom as a hostage would be
02:54 Killa-X with my marx i went cheap.
02:54 Sgt_Lemming the first 4 pics
02:54 Sgt_Lemming need to put em under oil obviously
02:54 Killa-X 50 1N4007s in series :P
02:55 Sgt_Lemming but as far as I have been able to find, they are 100kv rated
02:55 Seroster I wonder if the voltage it can handle goes down if I ejaculate on them.
02:56 Seroster Does the diode numbers actually make sense, or are they just random numbers?
02:56 Killa-X i have some decent lytics coming from finland soon :)
02:56 Killa-X 500V 10,000uF inverter grade :P
02:56 Seroster Nice
02:56 Killa-X the kind with the 1/2" thick terminals
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02:56 Seroster Purrdy
02:56 Killa-X getting 4 for near free for doing a deal with a friend
02:57 Killa-X and he bought them for around 300 new
02:57 Sgt_Lemming Seroster, you like?
02:57 Killa-X I tend to like to make things look like things though :P
02:58 Killa-X PVC -> capacitor
02:58 Killa-X http://i.imgur.com/ybjgI.jpg
02:58 Killa-X just for mounting...i guess...
02:58 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;v=uLKfDjUfor4 <--- HV porn
02:58 BotSteve Title: What is Ultra High Voltage DC (UHV DC)? - YouTube
03:00 Killa-X heh
03:01 astro73|alice first day of class tomorrow. legitimately anxious.
03:03 Killa-X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW3nmm3D1X0
03:03 BotSteve Title: 80kVA power arcs - YouTube
03:03 Killa-X awww DC mots make a fun noise
03:04 Sgt_Lemming Actually DC MOT's are very quiet
03:05 Sgt_Lemming AC is a LOT noiser
03:05 Sgt_Lemming noisier*
03:05 Killa-X and loud..
03:05 Killa-X when indoors you hear it in every room :)
03:05 Sgt_Lemming yeah
03:06 Killa-X you have a favorite youtube HV arc video?
03:06 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-fxEZ3xgP8&amp;list=UU6dhk1lgeKsgSN-zbwlKjEg&amp;index=2&amp;feature=plcp
03:06 BotSteve Title: How to Light a Sparkler Without a Lighter - YouTube
03:06 Sgt_Lemming not the favourite, but one of mine
03:06 Killa-X heh
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03:06 Sgt_Lemming but yeah, Costa sums it up well, "listen to the hum"
03:07 Sgt_Lemming that's a 4 MOT stack, Phase/Anti-Phase and 2 MOT
03:07 Sgt_Lemming in series on each leg
03:08 Killa-X http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC_cTjLpGug my fav HV youtube video
03:08 BotSteve Title: 1,2 MV Hochspannung 1 Ampere Lichtbögen - YouTube
03:08 Killa-X because THATS a loud arcing transformer :P
03:08 Killa-X 1.2MV 1A? heh
03:08 Killa-X i think TGG needs one of 'em :D
03:10 tonsofpcs hmm... do I need a game controller for skyrim (PC)?  If so, what?
03:10 Sgt_Lemming hah, watching the photonic induction goodbye video
03:10 Sgt_Lemming he's a hydrogen energy nut :-P
03:11 Sgt_Lemming you think someone like him would know better
03:11 Killa-X my friend is reuploading every video he made. to a photonicinduction fans account
03:11 Sgt_Lemming "going to make a reactor to smash water molecules to bits"
03:11 Killa-X :P
03:12 Killa-X his YT account still exists. just not in full
03:14 Killa-X heh
03:14 Killa-X nvm the ftp was deleted from YT servers finally
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03:16 Cprossu yeah I do have a favorite arc youtube video
03:16 Killa-X Oh well, my friend downloaded all 10.5GB of his videos to upload :P
03:16 Cprossu gotta find it though
03:16 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ph-h7l_aM
03:16 BotSteve Title: Tree branch falls on power lines - high voltage - Wicked Effect - YouTube
03:16 Cprossu There it is
03:17 Killa-X ah yes that video :P
03:18 Cprossu Killa-X I just love the video
03:18 Killa-X poor ants ;)
03:19 Cprossu pity the dumbass labeled this video incorrectly
03:19 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&amp;NR=1&amp;v=vqgNrj6oEdc
03:19 BotSteve Title: 500,000 volt line opened under load - YouTube
03:19 Killa-X think im gona head out... college starts tomorrow so, morning classes...
03:19 Killa-X cya'all
03:19 Cprossu Killa-X
03:20 Killa-X m?
03:20 Cprossu that's what happens when your HF_6 leaks out
03:20 Cprossu iirc
03:20 Killa-X HF_6? explain..
03:21 Cprossu sulfur hexafloride *meant to say*
03:21 Killa-X ah..
03:21 Cprossu *SF_6
03:21 Killa-X gotcha
03:21 Killa-X well, off i go. need rest :P 6AM woo! lol
03:22 * Killa-X poofs
03:24 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: You just can't plan an arc like that. :)
03:24 Cprossu ok what the fuck!
03:24 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j1Js_qP1mI&amp;feature=related
03:24 BotSteve Title: You Can't Drown Fire Ants! - YouTube
03:27 Seroster Wow that 1.2MV thing was awesome
03:27 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: That appears to be a really, really cool demonstration of surface tension
03:27 Monkeh|Lap Unless you don't like ants.
03:27 Monkeh|Lap Then it's a nightmare video.
03:27 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap one that could rather get out of hand easily
03:28 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap no, this is a nightmare video <- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBHNa0myibs&amp;feature=related
03:28 BotSteve Title: !!BEES TURNED HOUSE INTO HIVE FOR 10YRS!! - YouTube
03:28 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: 'not the ants, not the ants!'?
03:29 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Not the bees!
03:29 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: See, that's why we have fire.
03:30 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Somebody get that man some smoke bombs.
03:33 SparkyProjects Seroster, this may be useful for you
03:33 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMePE7NZcxw
03:33 BotSteve Title: Electrical Transformer Tutorial - YouTube
03:34 Seroster Seen it, SparkyProjects =)
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03:39 reesk92 i read in youtube comments theres blueprints of tgg building on the forums anybody know where cause id like to work on a project using them
03:40 Sgt_Lemming err, no, there aren't
03:41 Sgt_Lemming the challenge is to come up with blueprints from the videos
03:42 reesk92 in the comments someone said there was
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03:43 reesk92 is there a detailed blueprint for the lad some where
03:43 reesk92 chris replied
03:43 reesk92 Posted in the forums, yes.
03:43 Sgt_Lemming good luck on that one reesk92, even if there are blueprints, they will be out of date
03:44 reesk92 how do we go about getting scale out of the video cause half the rooms dont even make sense after all the twist and turns through coridoors
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03:44 Sgt_Lemming guesstimation
03:45 reesk92 can we request basic info like stair step hights and celing heights
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03:47 Fulsy was the TGG building all built at one time, or were there additions as time progressed?
03:48 reesk92 ooh that gives me ideas
03:48 Sgt_Lemming additions, changes, modifications, etc, etc
03:48 reesk92 will initiative be punnished
03:48 BitViper oh no, random ideas, the end of the world
03:49 BitViper if anyone comes up with actual measurements, especially of the outside, please get them to me
03:49 reesk92 oh outside is easy
03:49 reesk92 well easy ish
03:50 reesk92 google earth it
03:50 BitViper last i knew g/e doesnt show measurements
03:51 BitViper i mean like to a few inches, perimeter and height, i want to make a proper model for google maps/earth
03:51 reesk92 ahh
03:53 reesk92 i wanted blueprints cause i wanna make a acurate virtual world model of it so you can actually walk around it as you please not by moving a camera around it
03:53 reesk92 well as realistinc as walking ina  virtual world gets i suppose
03:53 BitViper reesk92 : there's always the minecraft model
03:54 BitViper but yes, if i can get good inside dimensions id like to model that too
03:54 reesk92 minecraft is good
03:55 reesk92 only downside it isnt acurate in any way other than feel
03:55 BitViper there's a model of the entire lab built in minecraft, its 99.9% done, even has a sewer :)
03:55 reesk92 where i got the model out the topic and thats got tons missing its like 75% at best
03:55 BitViper its enough to get a good idea where everything in the lab is w/o going there
03:56 BitViper i hope to get to the lab next week with my camera and if possible a good tape measure
03:58 reesk92 id need a solid month to mesure that place
03:58 BitViper thats all ?
03:58 BitViper im figuring a couple hours just for the outside, with a partner
03:59 reesk92 yeah but i wanna model the inside too so i gotta mesure absoloutly everything in site
03:59 BitViper yeah, agreed. are you in the area where you can get there any time ?
03:59 reesk92 nope uk
03:59 BitViper ouch, that'd be more than a day trip :)
03:59 reesk92 which is why blueprints are the best i can hope for
04:00 reesk92 yeah
04:00 Seroster Gnight folks
04:00 reesk92 be fun though
04:00 BitViper im only 90 mins away and its still out of my range =(
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04:04 reesk92_ hmm that was odd
04:13 wannabe-afk the alien movie thats in theatres....do you know the name of it?
04:14 Cprossu hey guys
04:14 Cprossu http://www.thegeekgroup.org/bb/index.php
04:14 wannabe1987 Toastdude
04:14 Cprossu wwhat the fuck happened tot he forums?
04:14 Cprossu or was it downtiem
04:14 wannabe1987 anyway.  in the movie theres a faraday cage and tesla coil/microwave guns....
04:14 wannabe1987 downtime....
04:15 wannabe1987 they were down for a bit today, idk when
04:16 wannabe1987 nick<tab> doesn't work in a PM for someone elses nick :P
04:17 wannabe1987 where is everyone?  only Cprossu and i?  did everyone else get eaten by the microwave alien things?
04:17 egrsteve|lurking yes
04:17 Sgt_Lemming I'm here
04:17 wannabe1987 zomg people!
04:17 Sgt_Lemming just feeling tired and wrecked etc
04:17 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Cease breaking things!
04:18 wannabe1987 what happened with your mouth, lem?
04:18 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: You lurker.
04:18 egrsteve|lurking breaking of the world again?
04:18 wannabe1987 movie was "the darkest hour"
04:18 wannabe1987 and it was good
04:18 wannabe1987 had geeky things!
04:18 dr_jkl what
04:18 dr_jkl what
04:18 dr_jkl what waht what Monkeh|Lap
04:18 dr_jkl what's broken
04:18 dr_jkl nothing should be broken
04:18 wannabe1987 monkeh, the website is SUPPOSED to be down!
04:19 wannabe1987 stop pissiong off jkl
04:19 * dr_jkl stuffs a spanner in her coat
04:19 egrsteve|lurking is it still down?
04:19 dr_jkl wannabe1987: oh it was earlier, its done now
04:19 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I thought it was finished and back up!
04:19 wannabe1987 ah.
04:19 reesk92_ quick question
04:19 reesk92_ in the hv lab
04:19 wannabe1987 i don't know! i just got home damnit!
04:19 wannabe1987 answer:
04:19 reesk92_ theres a set of red welders curtains in the back
04:19 wannabe1987 yes
04:20 reesk92_ why do they licht up when the teslas go off
04:20 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: You seem to have missed a subdomain. A really important one.
04:20 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: www.
04:20 reesk92_ like light from behind as if somethings in that room
04:20 wannabe1987 because thats where the electricity makers are
04:20 reesk92_ ahh
04:20 egrsteve|lurking reesk92_: the rotary spark gap is in there
04:20 reesk92_ cool
04:20 wannabe1987 i don't know what its called, but it makes electricity for the teslas :P
04:20 Monkeh|Lap And it looks really, really cool with the red curtain.
04:20 wannabe1987 mhm
04:21 wannabe1987 darn
04:21 wannabe1987 kates not here
04:21 reesk92_ i wanna build a tesla but its probably one of those things where not being shy with money helps
04:21 dr_jkl Monkeh|Lap: that's actually intentional
04:21 dr_jkl and is temporary
04:21 Monkeh|Lap I want to build one but there's a distinct lack of safe working area for such a thing.
04:21 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Well tell us about these things!
04:22 wannabe1987 my ipod started playing music.  i'm scared
04:22 * Monkeh|Lap puts away his extremely long range iPod control
04:22 reesk92_ ive just realised soemthing
04:22 wannabe1987 i didn't touch it and it was toggled to "lock"
04:22 reesk92_ they spent like a few weeks making stompers blast chamber
04:23 reesk92_ why bother maning a tight seal on the o ring if all presure will go our the side and the base infact the base could blow out
04:23 dr_jkl Monkeh|Lap: hit it now :)
04:23 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Cherokee nice? Never got around to playing with it.
04:23 dr_jkl it can be tempermental but i like it
04:23 Cprossu wannabe1987 it happens
04:24 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Well, it can't be worse than Apache the bloatenstein.
04:24 wannabe1987 what, electronics going off on their own?
04:24 * Monkeh|Lap is still tweaking Apache to play nice
04:24 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Apple products doing things they shouldn't.
04:24 Cprossu yay it's back up
04:24 wannabe1987 lol
04:25 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Like existing. ;)
04:25 wannabe1987 hey now.  i like my iPod....
04:25 reesk92_ hmm i tesla its a mini tesla coil for your iphone
04:25 wannabe1987 bats!
04:25 reesk92_ kill yourself by answering a phone call
04:25 Monkeh|Lap reesk92_: That'd be fine on my Android.
04:26 reesk92_ who dosent love a few thousand volts to the head
04:26 Monkeh|Lap reesk92_: It has a nasty habit of not allowing me to answer calls.
04:26 reesk92_ sighs
04:26 reesk92_ it saddens me that android is dieing
04:26 Monkeh|Lap I don't think it's dying.
04:26 reesk92_ who are you kidding
04:27 reesk92_ the mobile phone companies are murdering it
04:27 Cprossu back down
04:27 Monkeh|Lap Some of them actively support it.
04:27 reesk92_ googles like hey its opensourse do as you wish
04:27 dr_jkl yeah i know
04:27 dr_jkl i had to kick omething
04:27 reesk92_ so what do they do install crapware
04:27 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Put the spanner down and step away from the server. :P
04:27 dr_jkl yeah i can prolly stop for the night
04:28 Monkeh|Lap reesk92_: And then there's the iPhone, which simply IS crapware.
04:28 reesk92_ then make like 500 changes that make making updates for them impossible by google
04:28 egrsteve|lurking no, pull it back in then step away
04:28 egrsteve|lurking *plug
04:28 reesk92_ and no mobile carrier wants to do it
04:28 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: Plug the spanner in? The hell sort of spanner are you used to? :P
04:28 reesk92_ sadley a holes are killing android
04:28 egrsteve|lurking no, plug the server back in
04:28 reesk92_ the servers broke
04:28 reesk92_ o noes
04:29 reesk92_ quick install norton install norton
04:29 Monkeh|Lap reesk92_: And one of these days Apple is going to finally put the last nail in their coffin.
04:29 reesk92_ defrag the floppy drive defrag the floppy drive
04:29 Monkeh|Lap reesk92_: No, degauss it!
04:29 egrsteve|lurking I figure there was fumbling with the spanner and tripping on cords
04:29 * egrsteve|lurking pepares thumper
04:30 reesk92_ nah noobs dont know what degausing is
04:30 reesk92_ put the fridge magents on it
04:30 wannabe1987 what did degausing do?
04:30 reesk92_ to what the floppy drive
04:30 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: Right, now you're going to have to do a quick section on the blog about degaussing CRTs.
04:30 egrsteve|lurking degausing still works the same as it always has :)
04:30 reesk92_ what do you think running high magnetism into a magnetic recording media would do
04:30 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: I figure you of all people at the lab know that one inside and out, so.. ;)
04:31 egrsteve|lurking I know enough
04:31 Cprossu hey egrsteve|lurking what's up
04:31 wannabe1987 reesk92_: i'm not talking to you...i was talkinga bout a monitor, crt particularly
04:31 egrsteve|lurking ceiling
04:31 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: Oh, hey, if things go to plan I might be at the lab to harass you in a few weeks. :P
04:31 reesk92_ ahh
04:31 egrsteve|lurking cool
04:31 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: And to save Bill from the horror of the ladders.
04:32 reesk92_ it realighs the (whats the name of those tron sounding things ina crt)
04:32 wannabe1987 lol
04:32 Cprossu oh egrsteve|lurking that laserjet 8000 series, make sure it doesn't get parted
04:32 wannabe1987 realigns*
04:32 reesk92_ magnetos?
04:32 Cprossu it's easy to fix pretty much no matter what's wrong with it
04:32 egrsteve|lurking the colot one?
04:32 Monkeh|Lap ooh, laserjet.
04:32 Cprossu no it's a mono
04:32 Cprossu or it should be
04:32 reesk92_ hey
04:32 Cprossu I noticed it in the captains blog before the mall one
04:32 reesk92_ anyone ever taken a look in the waste ink resevouir on a inkjet
04:33 wannabe1987 egrsteve|lurking: did you guys get any flatbed scanners in?
04:33 egrsteve|lurking yes, it's scarry
04:33 egrsteve|lurking one canoscan
04:33 reesk92_ talk about eficiancy
04:33 sndwrx Monkeh|Lap: Oh cool you may be coming to GR?
04:33 reesk92_ hmm how can we clean the printer to stop our customers having to clean it or pay to have it cleaned
04:33 wannabe1987 i hope he comes....
04:33 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: That's the plan, whether it happens or not..
04:33 wannabe1987 :evil grin:
04:33 reesk92_ I KNOW spray expensive into through the head into the waste ink resevoir
04:34 wannabe1987 canoscan?
04:34 Cprossu If I am correct egrsteve|lurking what I am looking at is a laserjet 8000 series (possibly an 8150) with an extended paper tray to the right
04:34 sndwrx Monkeh|Lap: Well, that's pretty cool.
04:34 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Hmm, why the use of Google for the mail?
04:35 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: It is.
04:35 Monkeh|Lap Or it will be.
04:35 Cprossu http://oi42.tinypic.com/a9l729.jpg
04:35 Cprossu ^ egrsteve|lurking that
04:36 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Jeez, you are a geek aren't you?
04:36 Sgt_Lemming why are you lurking that Cprossu?
04:36 Monkeh|Lap Says the guy who went 'oooh, PPC' at the pile of old Macs...
04:36 egrsteve|lurking not sure, there is a number of HP printers that are not destened fro scrap
04:36 dr_jkl Because that's what Moose picked. I can automate a bunch of our shit, and it works well for us.
04:37 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Fair enough.
04:37 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap uh.. no, why would anyone who was a geek, ever join a forum called 'The Geek Group'
04:37 * wannabe1987 needs a flatbed scanner or photo scanner of some sort...
04:37 * Monkeh|Lap just likes running his own mail server
04:37 Cprossu srsly..
04:37 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: :)
04:37 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: I mean.. identifying a PRINTER like that? :D
04:37 reesk92_ dr_jkl: who are you at tgg i dnt recognise the name
04:37 wannabe1987 she's not at the lab
04:37 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: If it was something _cool_.. :P
04:37 Cprossu Monkeh|Lap that is something cool
04:37 Sgt_Lemming anyone watched the 28c3 video about hacking HP printers?
04:37 Monkeh|Lap It's a printer.
04:37 wannabe1987 she just, uh you know, runs the website (with moose, i think)
04:38 Cprossu not every day you get a bulletproof printer that does 100,000 pages per toner
04:38 dr_jkl reesk92_: i volunteer remotely.
04:38 Cprossu 24 ppm, and bulletproof
04:38 Sgt_Lemming massive security issues on most HP Laserjet printers
04:38 egrsteve|lurking this is Cprossu can ID any computer component by it's silloett
04:38 reesk92_ remote volenteering how does that work
04:38 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: Hey, I can do that. :P
04:38 Cprossu ^ hehehe true.
04:38 wannabe1987 reesk92_: you do shit online for them
04:38 * Monkeh|Lap can feel his way to the complete specifications of a motherboard
04:39 Sgt_Lemming that's not that hard
04:39 egrsteve|lurking there is at least one copier in the pile that was unpluged when they picked it up
04:39 Cprossu that's good
04:39 reesk92_ oh cool i wouldnt mid doing that on my evenings
04:39 egrsteve|lurking others that are miles of gears an motors
04:39 Cprossu btw we got massive stuff egrsteve|lurking I've been trying to weed everything through
04:39 * wannabe1987 needs a flatbed scanner or photo scanner of some sort...
04:39 Cprossu glad that jeff managed to get some procs at vc?
04:39 Cprossu I see he learned the art of pin unbending well (I hope)
04:39 egrsteve|lurking i suppsoe so
04:40 egrsteve|lurking brb
04:40 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Gently does it. :)
04:40 Cprossu ok time for me to look for bits in that video that we can use though.
04:41 Cprossu yay pin printers, a panasonic KXP2130, that thing deserves to burn in hell
04:41 Cprossu take the stepper out of it first though
04:42 Sgt_Lemming I had a KXP-6100 I think
04:42 Sgt_Lemming one of their awesome little vertical laser printers
04:42 Sgt_Lemming so nice to have a laser printer that takes up a tiny amount of desk space
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04:42 Cprossu panasonic made some really terrible printerx
04:42 Cprossu *s
04:42 Cprossu especially lasers
04:42 Sgt_Lemming yes, yes they did, but the vertical lasers were quite nice
04:43 Sgt_Lemming just for the lack of noise (convection cooled) and the lack of wasted desk space
04:43 Sgt_Lemming like it wasn't much bigger than a ream of paper when it was folded up
04:43 Cprossu the KX p4410 really bit.
04:44 Cprossu so did the 4420 (obviously)
04:46 dr_jkl oh man
04:46 dr_jkl panasonic
04:47 dr_jkl my first real printer was a starwriter, but after that i had a panasonic kx-p2140
04:48 Sgt_Lemming http://www.surplustoner.com/sage/images/items/210484.png <--- the one I used to have, it was great
04:48 egrsteve|lurking great, someone got cprossu started on printers, again
04:49 Toastdude Anyone know much about wimshurst machines?
04:49 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: He got himself started
04:50 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: He got all excited seeing printers on the blog.
04:50 * egrsteve|lurking scolds Cprossu
04:54 reesk92_ what brand e-ciggarette is chris rocking int he vids
04:54 Toastdude Volcano
04:55 reesk92_ im gonna get one cause my elite brand one sucks
04:58 wannabe1987 reesk92_: what country r u from?
04:58 reesk92_ uk
04:59 tonsofpcs grrr
04:59 tonsofpcs so I ran AVG PC TuneUp and had it fix some errant registry entries and I think it broke more than it fixed... anyone know where it logs/backs up ??
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05:14 wannabe1987 lwq1996!
05:14 * wannabe1987 gives warmed over blanket if needed
05:14 lwq1996 hi
05:14 lwq1996 i have a cold im not cold
05:14 wannabe1987 how was the ladder?  what were you doing anyway
05:14 wannabe1987 ah.
05:15 * wannabe1987 gives cold meds?
05:15 lwq1996 i was taking down christmas lights
05:15 lwq1996 that was some scary shit
05:15 lwq1996 damn i want an little giant
05:15 wannabe1987 o.O  we don't put lights on our house
05:15 lwq1996 im pa we do
05:16 wannabe1987 in michigan people do as well.  i was saying myf amily doesn't do house lights
05:16 wannabe1987 too much work
05:17 lwq1996 ah
05:18 lwq1996 i would love a ladder that didnt wobble when i went up it though
05:19 wannabe1987 agree
05:19 wannabe1987 completely
05:20 lwq1996 oh wow would i love one of those little giants
05:21 wannabe1987 why does google mail not like this computer?
05:22 lwq1996 because your computers not a toshiba?
05:22 wannabe1987 apparently not.  cord, get here STAT
05:22 lwq1996 lol
05:23 wannabe1987 mom ordered it saturday
05:23 wannabe1987 so sometime this week
05:23 lwq1996 it coming from china?
05:23 wannabe1987 amazon
05:23 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Generic cheapo or a real replacement?
05:24 wannabe1987 dunno
05:24 wannabe1987 http://www.imdb.com/media/rm1186968320/tt1093357  this is the microwave gun that was used in the movie.  pretty damn nifty except the battery life sucked :P
05:24 BotSteve Title: Pictures & Photos from The Darkest Hour - IMDb
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05:24 wannabe1987 wb JA12
05:26 lwq1996 im pa this is legal http://www.very-motivational.com/funny-pics/496/
05:26 BotSteve Title: Driving by torch light
05:27 lwq1996 GOD THIS COLD
05:29 tonsofpcs bah
05:29 tonsofpcs anyone running Vista x64 willing to share part of their registry?
05:30 lwq1996 i got a windows x32
05:30 wannabe1987 only one i know of that has vista is my parents
05:31 tonsofpcs specifically HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Classes\
05:31 tonsofpcs well, I'll take anything, but that's the most wanted
05:31 lwq1996 could the x32 version work?
05:31 tonsofpcs it could
05:32 lwq1996 do you need it right now?
05:32 tonsofpcs I'm just going to be comparing some values by hand between a backup in non-standard form with a standard .reg so I can see what they mean
05:32 tonsofpcs I need it ASAP.  System won't boot :(
05:33 lwq1996 why ar you using vista anyways
05:33 tonsofpcs because that's what's on the machien
05:35 lwq1996 i can have you that registory e tomorrow
05:35 lwq1996 by
05:36 wannabe1987 says he needs it ASAP.  tomorrow (today) is NOT asap.
05:38 wannabe1987 DruidicRifleman
05:38 wannabe1987 who hacked you?
05:38 DruidicRifleman no one
05:38 DruidicRifleman eiken was being paranoid
05:39 wannabe1987 lol ok
05:51 tonsofpcs chats dead...
05:51 Toastdude Hi
05:52 tonsofpcs hi
05:52 * tonsofpcs needs a network-attached kvm head to stick on this pc so he can gerfingerpoken it from work
05:52 Toastdude How are you?
05:53 wannabe1987 hi
05:53 wannabe1987 its all toasts fault that chat died
05:54 Coderjoe i can gerfingerpoken my pc from work just fine, the vast majority of the time, with plain old vnc
05:54 Toastdude Yes it is....
05:54 wannabe1987 oooo how did you get voice?!
05:54 Coderjoe i don't know. it happened while I was away
05:55 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: me too.  That doesn't help when the system isn't booting.
05:55 wannabe1987 oooo odd
05:55 wannabe1987 3 days
05:55 Toastdude voice?
05:56 wannabe1987 yeah the +
05:56 Toastdude Oh
05:56 Coderjoe i've had it for three days? really?
05:56 wannabe1987 does nothing here...but in other chats it does stuf
05:56 wannabe1987 what
05:56 wannabe1987 no
05:56 wannabe1987 thats the countdown
05:56 Coderjoe I don't remember having it last night. but then I don't usually pay attention to my nick area
05:56 Coderjoe oh
05:57 Monkeh|Lap Jan 08 06:25:09 <Coderjoe>      it's a great big universe, and we're all really puny
05:57 Monkeh|Lap Jan 08 06:25:28 <Coderjoe>      we're just tiny little specks, about the size of Mickey Rooney
05:57 Monkeh|Lap Jan 08 06:26:15 <dr_jkl>        oh man
05:57 Monkeh|Lap Jan 08 06:26:18 <dr_jkl>        animaniacs
05:57 Monkeh|Lap Jan 08 06:26:38 *       dr_jkl gives voice to Coderjoe
05:57 Monkeh|Lap Jan 08 06:26:46 <dr_jkl>        you get a ++ for that
05:57 Coderjoe bah. the perlgeek logs don'at appear to include joins, parts, quits, and mode changes
05:57 Monkeh|Lap </spam>
05:57 Coderjoe oh
05:57 Coderjoe I guess it did happen while I was here, just not paying terribly close attention
05:58 wannabe1987 ok so bowling with guys gets odd sometimes when they talk about their balls beign heavy.
05:59 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I have particularly heavy ones.
05:59 wannabe1987 well, their balls kept getting stuck in the system.
05:59 wannabe1987 ....
05:59 wannabe1987 and i think my landlord is in las vegas?!
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06:00 wannabe1987 hi Electricguy
06:00 Electricguy hi hi
06:00 wannabe1987 hows you?
06:02 tonsofpcs Running SFC from inside "Startup Repair" now.  meanwhile, it's nap time... I'll check the results tomorrow before heading to work *crosses fingers and toes *
06:02 * wannabe1987 needs to figure out phone plans/phones/systems for me.....i'm going to be getting a "real" phone in may/june
06:02 Electricguy tired and ..... tired :)
06:02 Electricguy and you?
06:03 Electricguy brb....
06:03 wannabe1987 tired.  but i'm going to bed.
06:03 wannabe1987 you...just woke up ?
06:03 * wannabe1987 pours Electricguy some coffee/tea/redbull/caffiene IV
06:04 wannabe1987 i've never stuck someone before...it can't be too hard, can it?!
06:04 wannabe1987 :P
06:04 * Monkeh|Lap ponders whether taking his radio to GR is a good idea
06:04 wannabe1987 what kind of radio?
06:04 wannabe1987 we have some. :P
06:04 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: A DAB one which won't work over there. On the other hand, I have a laptop and a phone, and the radio has awesome speakers.
06:05 wannabe1987 dab?
06:05 Monkeh|Lap Digital.
06:05 wannabe1987 why won't it work?
06:05 wannabe1987 and how are you going to power your laptop over here?
06:06 Monkeh|Lap For starters the only station I listen to isn't available over there, plus you guys transmit on a different band which my radio won't receive
06:06 wannabe1987 then why bring it?
06:06 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: With one of the many, many power cables the lab has floating around.
06:06 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Because it has awesome speakers!
06:06 wannabe1987 lol
06:06 wannabe1987 but you cna't listen to anything!
06:07 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Internet radio and my huge music collection? :P
06:07 wannabe1987 o right
06:07 wannabe1987 how big is said radio?
06:07 Monkeh|Lap Fairly
06:07 wannabe1987 would the space it takes up be better used with clothing and/or other electronics/tools?
06:07 Monkeh|Lap http://www.dab-world.co.uk/Images/Pure-Evoke-2xt-Maple-L.jpg
06:08 Monkeh|Lap That's what I'm pondering
06:08 Monkeh|Lap I can't take too many tools or I'll just end up taking no clothes
06:08 wannabe1987 most likely.  i'm sure the lab has speakers
06:08 tonsofpcs build speakers from scratch!
06:09 Monkeh|Lap I already know I'll be bringing screwdrivers (a whole pile of 'em), torx keys, pliers, strippers, etc in the way of tools.
06:09 Experimentonomen guten morgen peepz
06:09 wannabe1987 morning Experimentonomen
06:09 Monkeh|Lap I like my tools and it saves me scrounging
06:09 Monkeh|Lap And I might bring Boden a present.
06:10 wannabe1987 o?
06:10 Monkeh|Lap http://www.acsupply.co.uk/ekmps/shops/acsonline/images/roughneck-mini-utility-bar-178mm-7in--53885-p.jpg
06:10 Monkeh|Lap They're cute.
06:10 Monkeh|Lap (and really, really handy)
06:11 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Thing is, none of the speakers at the lab will do my music justice. ;)
06:11 Monkeh|Lap Radio should fit in my hand baggage though
06:11 wannabe1987 a tool is cute?
06:11 wannabe1987 i'm confused
06:11 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: It's a 7" long crowbar.
06:12 wannabe1987 picture said 15"
06:12 Monkeh|Lap Stock image
06:12 Monkeh|Lap That exact design, but 7".
06:12 wannabe1987 :blink blink:
06:12 wannabe1987 ok
06:12 wannabe1987 but as a girl, who finds lots of things "cute" how is a tool cute?  i'm not seeing it
06:12 wannabe1987 ....
06:12 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Men are different.
06:12 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I normally use a 24" or 36" crowbar, mind you.
06:12 wannabe1987 no shit.  i spent tonight with three of them
06:13 DruidicRifleman any one else have second life
06:13 wannabe1987 what do you use a 7" on?
06:13 wannabe1987 no druid, i only have one :/
06:13 Monkeh|Lap Usually as a holding point while prying things
06:13 wannabe1987 oooo
06:14 Monkeh|Lap But it's also come in useful for cracking open large equipment
06:14 * Monkeh|Lap has four or five crowbars
06:14 Monkeh|Lap One of which is waiting for me to get some paint.
06:14 wannabe1987 ooo
06:14 wannabe1987 ok
06:15 egrsteve|lurking at the lab we have one  lovingly called fat max
06:15 Monkeh|Lap 7", 15" (both flat), 24" and 36", and a 24" which is to be painted.
06:16 Monkeh|Lap Anyone who knows what colour I want to paint it and why should be voiced by dr_jkl.
06:16 egrsteve|lurking puce!
06:17 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: Possibly an acceptable answer.
06:17 wannabe1987 yellow.  so it matches the manlift :P
06:17 egrsteve|lurking possibly?
06:17 wannabe1987 where the fuck is lark county?
06:17 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: Depends on how you define puce and if you can answer the other part of the question. :P
06:17 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Nope, not yellow.
06:17 wannabe1987 anyone know what county las vegas is in?
06:17 wannabe1987 awwwww
06:17 wannabe1987 i tried
06:18 Monkeh|Lap This may well predate the manlift, I don't know how old that thing is.
06:18 egrsteve|lurking puce, imaine mixing bright orange and baby blue
06:18 wannabe1987 o its clark county
06:18 wannabe1987 wtf r they doing in vegas?!
06:18 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|lurking: No, I don't think that'll cover it.
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06:19 Toastdude Lee!
06:19 Monkeh|Lap Listen to this while I test something, I expect an accurate answer from someone when I return :P
06:19 Monkeh|Lap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUltZKwW08Q
06:19 BotSteve Title: Ten - Kingdom Come (Stormwarning) - YouTube
06:19 leepod i hate my brother
06:19 egrsteve|lurking fine vomit like
06:20 leepod he acts like he runs the ducking house
06:21 leepod hey steve ive been wraping all my cables like you since the first video you did that in
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06:21 wannabe1987 leepod!  sorry to hear about your brother being a duck
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06:21 wannabe1987 hi iSasha
06:21 leepod so freaking convenient
06:21 wannabe1987 hi BitViper_Lappy
06:22 * leepod pokes egrsteve|lurking
06:22 BitViper i so love my isp *mutter*
06:23 wannabe1987 lol
06:23 wannabe1987 comcast?
06:23 BitViper no, local/regional
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06:23 leepod anyone want to donate a old half decent desktop computer to me
06:23 wannabe1987 ah
06:23 BitViper no comcrap within miles of here that i know of
06:23 wannabe1987 hi Monkeh|Lap
06:23 Monkeh|Lap Well
06:23 wannabe1987 good.
06:23 Monkeh|Lap That's that plan scuppered.
06:24 wannabe1987 ?
06:24 Monkeh|Lap Can't charge USB unless I'm on AC.
06:24 leepod RUNNY NOSE GO AWAY!!!!!!!
06:24 wannabe1987 awwwww
06:25 * wannabe1987 banishes lee's nose
06:25 wannabe1987 good lucks smelling and tasting now!
06:25 leepod all i taste is buggers
06:25 BitViper runny nose meet cory
06:25 wannabe1987 boogers
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06:25 wannabe1987 o.  its YOU!
06:25 wannabe1987 its ok
06:26 tehdark45 it is YOU
06:26 wannabe1987 lee, i find that changing from sitting to standing and back again helps the nose :/ idk why
06:26 leepod BitViper, is cory?
06:26 wannabe1987 i'm going ot bed soon
06:26 BitViper leepod : heavens no LOL
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06:26 BitViper I do much worse damage LOL
06:26 leepod damn
06:26 leepod lol
06:27 leepod Oh i get that puhn now!!!!!!!
06:27 BitViper if i ever make it to the lab i'll give cory a run for his money
06:27 tehdark45 wannabe1987, the g on rise forces the mucus down ;)
06:27 leepod i would take a runny nose rather than a burning nose any da
06:27 BitViper agreed
06:28 tehdark45 Gs*
06:28 Monkeh|Lap So, no opinions on my musical entertainment or entries to my challenge? :P
06:28 leepod my mom could clear out the whole lenord street on a windy day though
06:28 wannabe1987 what?
06:29 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, CDEFGAB BAGFEDC. I know. I am that talented
06:30 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: What.
06:30 wannabe1987 scales!
06:30 wannabe1987 C major, i think :P
06:30 Monkeh|Lap Uh, right.
06:30 tehdark45 .cake wannabe1987
06:30 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a banana caramel cake!
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06:31 wannabe1987 o.O
06:31 wannabe1987 i has fuds!
06:31 tehdark45 noms*
06:31 leepod i see Toastdude was doing sime coding when i wasnt here
06:31 Toastdude What?
06:31 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Well, fancy taking a shot at my challenge?
06:31 Toastdude The .cake?
06:31 leepod .cake
06:31 BotSteve Here you go, leepod, I baked you a blueberry muffin cake!
06:32 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, I have no skill at that
06:32 tehdark45 :P
06:32 Toastdude That's been there for at least a month...
06:32 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: You don't even know what it is!
06:32 wannabe1987 music?  where?
06:32 leepod lol i didnt even know it
06:32 wannabe1987 .tfw tgg
06:32 BotSteve 29°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'GREAT! If you're a penguin.'
06:32 wannabe1987 damn its cold outside
06:32 Toastdude lol
06:32 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I dumped a link in here before rebooting
06:32 Toastdude I made .yuno and .cake at the same time
06:33 leepod lol i didnt notice i thought bats made . yuno
06:33 leepod .yuno
06:33 BotSteve Asprin: Y U NO WORK????????
06:33 Toastdude Nope
06:33 tehdark45 .tfwc surrey, BC
06:33 BotSteve 7°C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Surrey, CA!  'It could be worse.'
06:33 tehdark45 HAHA
06:34 tehdark45 Ujelly?
06:34 tehdark45 And Advil is where it's at :P
06:34 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUltZKwW08Q  i found it Monkeh|Lap!
06:34 BotSteve Title: Ten - Kingdom Come (Stormwarning) - YouTube
06:35 tehdark45 so what was this challenge Monkeh|Lap
06:35 wannabe1987 i cvan't watch vids tho
06:35 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I have a 24" crowbar ready for painting. What colour do I want to paint it, and why?
06:35 wannabe1987 unless they're embedded elsewhere other than yt
06:35 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, Red, cuse you wana be Gordon Freeman ;)
06:36 Monkeh|Lap dr_jkl: Give this man a +v!
06:36 tehdark45 rusty red*
06:36 DruidicRifleman Cprossu and i are looking at a geek group Second life lab
06:36 wannabe1987 ...lol
06:36 DruidicRifleman and reds online
06:36 wannabe1987 see, i don't play video games!
06:36 leepod what?
06:36 wannabe1987 .seen RED
06:36 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen RED around.
06:36 leepod no shes not
06:36 wannabe1987 she's not here....
06:36 wannabe1987 she might be on facebook, BUT I DON"T GIVE A FUCK
06:36 wannabe1987 bitch
06:36 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Have an MP3: http://offliberty.com/DUltZKwW08Q.mp3
06:37 wannabe1987 no.  i have to go to bed :P  (i said that an hour ago)
06:37 tehdark45 red as in the one in charge of painting Red?
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06:37 wannabe1987 damn youinternet, why you be so addicting.  or slow
06:37 wannabe1987 tehdark45yes
06:37 * leepod slaps wannabe1987 be nice!!!!!!
06:37 tehdark45 ah ok
06:37 wannabe1987 fuck no, lee.
06:37 wannabe1987 she's a bitch to me.  trust me
06:37 wannabe1987 you were around then
06:38 leepod be the bigger person here
06:38 * Monkeh|Lap clears his throat
06:38 wannabe1987 lol
06:38 tehdark45 has she been at the lab cuse she hasn't been in the videos
06:38 wannabe1987 no, she has like 3 jobs and lives 40 min northwest of the lab
06:38 wannabe1987 40 min one way
06:38 leepod nope she got a job
06:38 Monkeh|Lap 6'3" 280lb, coming through.
06:39 wannabe1987 you can be the bigger person.
06:39 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: there IS space for me in your car, right? ;)
06:39 wannabe1987 yeah, my x was 6'7" 250lbs
06:39 leepod tehdark45, hows your day
06:39 wannabe1987 he fit
06:39 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Excellent.
06:39 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, rugby player?
06:39 tehdark45 :P
06:39 leepod rugby ftw!!!!
06:40 * wannabe1987 has never seen rugby. o.O
06:40 wannabe1987 DALEK
06:40 wannabe1987 EXTERMINATE
06:40 wannabe1987 EXTERMINATE
06:40 wannabe1987 EXTERMINATE
06:40 tehdark45 and leepod, it was good. i did nothing. yours?
06:40 leepod oh its oh so fun to watch
06:40 Toastdude wannabe1987: DELETE
06:40 wannabe1987 well, Monkeh|Lap will just have to come and show me on a tv or vid somewhere :nods:
06:40 tehdark45 Also, Boks all the way
06:40 wannabe1987 EXTERMINATE
06:40 Toastdude Yay Cybermen..
06:40 leepod i nearly shit myself taking down lights
06:41 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I don't watch rugby
06:41 wannabe1987 i saw a random episode yesterday....
06:41 Monkeh|Lap (or play it)
06:41 wannabe1987 damn brits
06:41 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, then why are you 280? too much mcdonalds?
06:41 wannabe1987 Toastdude: http://www.buzzfeed.com/gregs11/20-doctor-who-parodies-crossovers-4x67
06:41 tehdark45 :P
06:41 BotSteve Title: 20 "Doctor Who" Parodies
06:41 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: No, nothing to do.
06:42 leepod same here Monkeh|Lap
06:42 wannabe1987 come, get on the batman diet!
06:42 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I eat perfectly normally for my build I just have nothing to do to burn it off.
06:42 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, deadlift servers
06:42 tehdark45 ah
06:42 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Hard labour with moments of great geekery and occasional paperwork?
06:42 leepod wow was been on acn
06:42 wannabe1987 yes
06:42 leepod damn thing
06:42 Toastdude That's awesome wannabe :D
06:42 Monkeh|Lap Sounds good to me.
06:42 wannabe1987 i know :D
06:43 wannabe1987 you'll go home lighter!  and need new clothes :P
06:43 tonsofpcs found the problem, I think... now I just need a file (or two or three) off of a Vista x64 machine
06:43 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I am actually intending to do a bit of clothes shopping over there.. Much easier to find stuff in my size (height included)
06:43 tehdark45 It's always confused me. Dave is this big guy, and he is an office admin. LOL
06:43 leepod who was been on a wobbly ladder and nearly shit your pants because you were 13 ft up
06:43 DruidicRifleman Second life lenardstreet isn't doable
06:44 Monkeh|Lap leepod: Me, except I didn't even come close to shitting my pants :P
06:44 wannabe1987 shopping is fun, sometimes
06:44 tehdark45 shopping at computer places if fun
06:44 wannabe1987 BotSteve: is it bedtime?
06:44 tehdark45 always
06:44 wannabe1987 that too, tehdark45
06:44 Monkeh|Lap leepod: And I was rather further up than that
06:44 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should it be bedtime
06:44 BotSteve Definitely
06:44 wannabe1987 ok
06:44 tonsofpcs consrv*.*
06:44 wannabe1987 BotSteve spoketh
06:44 leepod i mean wobbly like it wobbles 4 in left and rigjt
06:45 wannabe1987 Monkeh|Lap: get on the damn plane and get over here.
06:45 Monkeh|Lap Night wannabe1987
06:45 Monkeh|Lap leepod: Yes, that's what aluminium section ladders do.
06:45 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: I want to!
06:45 wannabe1987 OK GO DO IT THEN
06:45 leepod i need one of those lil giants
06:45 tehdark45 wannabe1987, its $1000 for a round trip from here
06:45 wannabe1987 tell mother you'll pay her back
06:45 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Hah, with what?
06:45 tehdark45 and im a hell of a lot closer
06:45 wannabe1987 don't buy roundtrip....do like Cprossu said and get the return tix later
06:46 wannabe1987 a job.  you'll get one eventually.  you can't be jobless forever
06:46 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I can do it for less than that..
06:46 Electricguy crap. gotta go! see you all later :)
06:46 Monkeh|Lap hahahaha
06:46 sndwrx nice.
06:46 leepod haha net split
06:46 Monkeh|Lap Oh, god, that's brilliant
06:46 tehdark45 W00t net split!
06:46 sndwrx Seems he had an entourage.
06:47 leepod i love how im never net split
06:47 wannabe1987 lol
06:47 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, what are you flying on? Shitco Air?
06:47 tehdark45 :P
06:47 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: American Airlines.
06:47 tehdark45 HAHAH
06:47 tehdark45 colse enough
06:47 wannabe1987 shhhh
06:47 wannabe1987 don't scare him off!
06:47 wannabe1987 i want to go to chicago
06:47 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Well I can't really avoid it. There are all of three flights: AA, BA, and Delta.
06:47 wannabe1987 everythings fucking expensive there, but yeah
06:48 tehdark45 wannabe1987, jump i a car and go there then. it's not that far
06:48 tehdark45 in*
06:48 sndwrx Cheaper by train.
06:48 wannabe1987 no, but i'd like a reason....to use that gas
06:48 sndwrx Then you don't have to pay fuel and parking.
06:48 wannabe1987 yes, but if i'm picking someone up?  i'd rather go in a car
06:48 leepod i should go to bed
06:48 wannabe1987 me too
06:48 sndwrx Used to be $15, now it's about $35.
06:48 wannabe1987 night leepod
06:48 tehdark45 wannabe1987, visit Wheezy Waiter?
06:48 wannabe1987 i don't pay my gas yet
06:48 sndwrx And takes about the same amount of time.
06:48 wannabe1987 what?
06:49 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Who does pay for your gas?
06:49 wannabe1987 wheezy waiter?
06:49 wannabe1987 my church
06:49 wannabe1987 they also pay car insurance for me.  helping me get on my feet
06:49 tehdark45 youtube guy
06:49 Monkeh|Lap Nice
06:49 wannabe1987 mhm
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06:49 wannabe1987 why would i visit a YT guy?
06:49 wannabe1987 (go stalk my x instead) :P
06:49 tehdark45 wannabe1987, you wanted a reason
06:49 leepod hi net spliters
06:50 Monkeh|Lap Instead, she'll come spend three hours in a car with IRC guy
06:50 Monkeh|Lap ;)
06:50 wannabe1987 wb
06:50 * sndwrx grins.
06:50 tehdark45 wannabe1987, drive over here and take me to lab
06:50 tehdark45 :P
06:50 tehdark45 it's not that far
06:50 wannabe1987 no. i don't have that much gas....
06:51 wannabe1987 my car can't handle that trip anyway, tehdark45
06:51 leepod lol 2 hours
06:51 wannabe1987 i'd rather spend three hours w/ IRC guy anyway....he's a brit :P
06:51 leepod lol
06:51 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: An anti-social geek brit. ;P
06:51 wannabe1987 .seen ponko
06:51 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Ponko 4.79 hours ago at 2012-01-09 02:04:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:51:32 UTC
06:51 tehdark45 I am also a brit, TYVM
06:51 wannabe1987 :shrug:  doesnt matter
06:51 wannabe1987 tyvm?
06:51 wannabe1987 o
06:51 tehdark45 thank you very much
06:51 tehdark45 :P
06:52 wannabe1987 yes, but you don't live across the pond
06:52 wannabe1987 do you have the accent as well?
06:52 tehdark45 Yes
06:52 wannabe1987 get over here as well
06:52 leepod tehdark45, may be british but he speaks with an african accent
06:52 wannabe1987 Monkeh|Lap: bring ponko along too :P
06:52 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: He has to pay for himself! :P
06:52 wannabe1987 ok
06:53 wannabe1987 shove him in a box and ship him
06:53 Monkeh|Lap haha
06:53 leepod lol
06:53 wannabe1987 ponko napping!
06:53 leepod lets see
06:53 tehdark45 if Monkeh|Lap  were to hear it, he would be able to tell its not british. But to you it probably. It's British sounding but if you know your accent you can tell its not
06:53 * leepod kicks ponko in the nads
06:54 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Is it some poor canadian imitation of a real man's accent?
06:54 wannabe1987 i won a "contest" with our driver for haveing the best brit accent out of all the americans on board.....
06:54 leepod tehdark45, speaks with an african accent
06:54 tehdark45 no its not african
06:54 leepod your from africa though
06:54 wannabe1987 i watch dr who and monty python as well, so i can figure out a brit accent
06:54 wannabe1987 i'm no dummy
06:54 sndwrx haaha
06:55 wannabe1987 what?
06:55 leepod DAMNIT we had a big discusion about this tehdark45
06:55 tehdark45 what?
06:55 wannabe1987 leepod go to bed
06:55 wannabe1987 take your nose with you
06:55 leepod -.-
06:55 * leepod doesnt loke this
06:55 wannabe1987 you said it yourself, you were going to bed early to get well rested
06:55 leepod damn this thing!!!
06:56 leepod why do u stalk my facebook<.<
06:56 wannabe1987 to make sur eyou live.  and its on my newsfeed
06:57 leepod ik tehdark45 does nut hes weird:P
06:57 wannabe1987 i'm not tehdark45's fb friend
06:57 wannabe1987 he should fix taht
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06:58 tehdark45 i duno your fb >.> im lee friend so add me derp
06:58 leepod yes he should
06:58 wannabe1987 no, i don't kno your name.  i'm kelly.
07:00 lwq1996 teh dark is mathew hall
07:00 lwq1996 and my ipod died -.-
07:00 tehdark45 died? plug it in
07:00 tehdark45 herp
07:01 wannabe1987 derp herp derp?
07:01 tehdark45 and maTThew
07:01 lwq1996 i am
07:01 lwq1996 but it needs to charge a lil
07:01 * lwq1996 roll eyes
07:01 lwq1996 fuck the extra t
07:01 tehdark45 fine
07:02 tehdark45 you are now Le
07:02 tehdark45 you frenchie
07:02 tehdark45 :P
07:02 wannabe1987 and I am kely
07:02 lwq1996 im not french
07:02 lwq1996 im amarekan
07:02 tehdark45 or just forget the other letters and call you ky?
07:02 tehdark45 :P
07:02 wannabe1987 NO
07:04 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: yes, herp derp derp derp herp.
07:04 tonsofpcs let me know when it stops and I'll discuss food :)
07:04 wannabe1987 bacon
07:04 tonsofpcs :D
07:04 Toastdude Toast!
07:04 Toastdude :P
07:04 tonsofpcs yay! PC STARTED!
07:05 tonsofpcs Toast + Bacon + eggs + NOT HP SAUCE
07:05 lwq1996 hey toast you know for 5dollars you can ship your desktop to a boy in pennsylvania that needs one
07:05 Toastdude My desktop is from 2004...
07:05 wannabe1987 costs more than $5
07:06 Toastdude Has 512MB of ram and can barely run Chrome
07:06 lwq1996 ill takethat
07:06 lwq1996 LO
07:06 lwq1996 :P
07:06 lwq1996 id run fedora on it
07:06 sndwrx Why Fedora?
07:07 lwq1996 UBUNTU SUCKS NOW
07:07 sndwrx Now?
07:07 sndwrx It has for a long time.
07:08 sndwrx So I ask again, "Why Fedora?"
07:08 sndwrx It isn't as though they are the only two distros available.
07:08 lwq1996 well true but lately i have been having problems with it
07:08 tonsofpcs seriously, why fedora?
07:08 lwq1996 and fedora seems to have good publicity
07:08 tonsofpcs I gave up on Fedora after FC3
07:09 tonsofpcs It WEEKLY removed my modprobes that made my wireless work and it wasn't through standard cron so I couldn't stop it
07:09 lwq1996 i want to run damn small linux but i dont have a cd writer/reader
07:09 tonsofpcs (1 wouldn't let me modprobe, 2 wouldn't let my wired card work)
07:09 sndwrx Use a thumbdrive.
07:09 * Monkeh|Lap gives lwq1996 a 50mW laser and a CD
07:09 Monkeh|Lap Get cracking
07:09 Monkeh|Lap :P
07:09 * sndwrx grins at Monkeh|Lap
07:09 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I think it's illegal to give that to a 14 year old in this country :-p
07:10 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yes, well, he has all sort of other things he shouldn't have. :P
07:10 lwq1996 i could do it but it would be hard
07:10 lwq1996 nope
07:10 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: and he's missing some things he should!
07:10 wannabe1987 i think its illegal to give it to lee.
07:10 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: :)
07:10 lwq1996 have you seen some of the stuff they let us handle in school sometimes
07:10 tonsofpcs like, oh, idk, a sense of humor.......
07:10 wannabe-zz night all
07:10 tonsofpcs g'nite wannabe-zz
07:10 Monkeh|Lap wannabe-zz: Night
07:10 * tonsofpcs wants to be zzzz
07:10 sndwrx night wannabe-zz
07:10 wannabe-zz go buy tickets
07:10 wannabe-zz tonsofpcs: do eeet
07:10 tonsofpcs to what?
07:10 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: He's a kid, those don't come as standard.
07:10 wannabe-zz merica
07:11 sndwrx lwq1996: Hard to use a thumbdrive?
07:11 * tonsofpcs is in America
07:11 tonsofpcs see, right here: amERICa.
07:11 wannabe-zz then i wasn't talking to you
07:11 wannabe-zz i was talking to banana over there....
07:11 tonsofpcs I mean, I am Eric A., too.
07:11 tonsofpcs is he in pajamas? coming down the stairs?
07:12 wannabe-zz you is eric?  LOL
07:12 Monkeh|Lap wannabe-zz: Yes, yes, I want to!
07:14 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap and people, what you think?
07:14 tehdark45 http://db.tt/Ep27JOu6
07:14 tonsofpcs I think it's a mimetype x-application/mp3
07:15 tehdark45 mp3
07:15 tonsofpcs (just a guess, really, suffice to say my browser isn't happy with that link)
07:15 tonsofpcs (and it's 02:15 I'm not listening to the contents anyway)
07:15 tehdark45 its my voice
07:15 tehdark45 :P
07:16 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Too many different hints.
07:16 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Definitely NOT from around here, though.
07:16 tehdark45 wut you mean?
07:16 tehdark45 to much different things?
07:16 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Too many hints of different accents, not one solid one.
07:16 tehdark45 yeah thats my whole life lol
07:17 Monkeh|Lap Wouldn't say african though..
07:18 tehdark45 my sister sounds canadian, since she was kindergarten when we got here back in 97
07:19 tehdark45 i was grade 2 at that time, and i had live in aus, so its a weird combo of south afican, aus (not much) and canadian
07:20 tonsofpcs south africa has one of those "you can't quite place it" accents
07:20 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, NZ is worse for that
07:20 tehdark45 LO
07:20 tehdark45 L
07:20 Monkeh|Lap See, I can place both just fine :P
07:20 Toastdude Night
07:20 tehdark45 NZ/SA is very simmilar
07:20 Monkeh|Lap Problem is, damn yanks have too many accents
07:21 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Not to my ears.
07:21 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Although the way your accent has developed certainly reminds me of NZ..
07:21 tehdark45 I gut mah trukk
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07:22 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I have an idear!  Why doncha tawk aboot our North Amerekun ax-sents nao?
07:22 tehdark45 aboot? thats canadian :P
07:22 sndwrx That's like a gross abomination of redneck and Canadian.
07:23 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: No, there'll be plenty of me making fun of american accents when I'm at the lab. :P
07:23 tonsofpcs idear is squarely brooklyn.
07:23 Monkeh|Lap I'm just dreading the thought of Boden following me around for it.
07:23 sndwrx You're going to love the attention.
07:24 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, You: Good day, Sire Boden. Chris: Sup?
07:24 Monkeh|Lap sndwrx: Dude, I'm a geek, I HATE that sort of attention :P
07:24 tonsofpcs tawk is north-eastern
07:24 tonsofpcs aboot is quite canadian, ofc.
07:24 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I may have to lay it on rather strong when I first meet him, just to see what sort of reaction I can get.
07:24 tonsofpcs doncha is southern
07:25 tehdark45 Or just go Irish and say to of the morning
07:25 tehdark45 :P
07:25 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Nah, I might go Scottish though. It's in me blood.
07:25 tehdark45 I think Monkeh|Lap should talk in ebonics
07:26 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: you shouldn't be making fun of accents unless you have a "TV"/"General"/"Neutral" accent.
07:26 tonsofpcs aye, that it may be...
07:26 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I don't even know what my accent is, so.. :P
07:26 tehdark45 Chriss, I axd you uh questionn, ANSA ME FOOL mmmhmm. Thats what you should ssay to him
07:26 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: do you read anything differently than the IPA key in the dictionary tells you to?
07:27 tonsofpcs oh, I'll axe you something all right :-p
07:27 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I rarely ever need to use a dictionary. :P
07:27 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, dont forget to spell american
07:27 Monkeh|Lap I'm almost certainly going to get textually flayed if I end up on the blog now.
07:28 tehdark45 I think you will be the first brit on the blog
07:28 tehdark45 :P
07:28 tonsofpcs you're going to be on the blog.
07:28 tonsofpcs I was on the blog in my first 5 seconds in the building.
07:29 tonsofpcs and I had just gotten out of the car I had been sitting in for the previous 12 hours
07:29 tehdark45 Well Chris does pull out the camera without thinking
07:29 tehdark45 :P
07:29 Monkeh|Lap I'm going to go hide with Bill and block the door.
07:29 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, i think you are bigger than him
07:30 tehdark45 so good luck hiding
07:30 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Oh, I'm pretty sure I'm bigger than everyone but Dave.
07:30 Monkeh|Lap Although Batman's a wider load.
07:30 tehdark45 lol
07:31 Monkeh|Lap Not sure how tall Dave is, but he's.. big.
07:31 tehdark45 why is dave almost never gen. badass?
07:31 Monkeh|Lap He spends too much time behind the camera
07:31 Monkeh|Lap Doesn't get to be badass.
07:31 tehdark45 lol
07:32 tehdark45 Well i'm only 5'6" and 130
07:32 tehdark45 soo yeah
07:32 tehdark45 lol
07:32 Monkeh|Lap Wee people
07:32 Monkeh|Lap So hard not to step on you
07:32 Monkeh|Lap :P
07:32 tehdark45 ill just spear you ;)
07:33 tehdark45 with a real spear
07:33 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I wear steel. :P
07:33 tehdark45 no you dont
07:33 tehdark45 you wont be flying then
07:33 Monkeh|Lap Yes, I'll have to put my ordinary boots on for the flight :{
07:33 Monkeh|Lap Or they'll get all annoyed because I beep.
07:34 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, dont you just love  Heathrow carts?
07:34 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I have no idea, I've never been there.
07:34 tehdark45 Oh ok. Well, its like Stomper.4 rotating castors
07:35 tehdark45 and not 600lb
07:35 lwq1996 ok im going to bed
07:35 Monkeh|Lap Hm, okay, so they just x-ray the boots. Fine, steel boots it is. :P
07:35 lwq1996 night all
07:35 tehdark45 cya lee
07:36 tehdark45 no they xray you
07:36 tehdark45 but the carts are horrific to handle
07:36 Monkeh|Lap Oh, right, they're doing the whole full-body x-ray thing now.
07:36 tehdark45 depends
07:36 tehdark45 its random/you beep
07:37 tonsofpcs gnite
07:37 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Well, if I take my boots off I won't be beeping.
07:38 Monkeh|Lap Just got to remember to bag everything. So used to carrying a workshop in my pockets..
07:38 tehdark45 As for the flight, it's not too bad. Until after breakfast. By then, you wana GTFO a soon as possible
07:38 Monkeh|Lap Keys, two multitools, two knives, wallet, maglite, zippo..
07:38 Monkeh|Lap I get fun looks going through security at certain events :P
07:39 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, they prob think, "Chav"
07:39 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: I do not look, sound, or act like a chav. ;)
07:39 tehdark45 but you have weapons
07:39 tehdark45 they think you wana cause shit
07:40 tehdark45 hence the looks
07:40 Monkeh|Lap None of them are weapons.
07:40 tehdark45 yeah a knife in a multitool
07:41 tehdark45 >.>
07:41 Monkeh|Lap Although the idiots who write the law in this country would think one of them is, but I don't carry that if I'm likely to be searched.
07:41 Monkeh|Lap I refuse to be told I can't carry a perfectly ordinary utility knife because it locks for my own safety.
07:42 tehdark45 over here you can have a 4" for protection
07:42 Monkeh|Lap Over here you're not allowed to carry anything for defensive purposes.
07:42 Monkeh|Lap It's a weapon. You can't have those.
07:43 tehdark45 The Constable will come and find you ;)
07:43 Monkeh|Lap You're also not allowed to carry any fixed blade, folding blade over 3", or according to their faulty interpretation of the law, any locking folding blade
07:44 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, it sounds like you wana immigrate :P
07:44 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Actually, yes.
07:44 Monkeh|Lap The USA is and is in a heap of shit but it's no better here, and I'm both bored and pissed off with this country.
07:45 tehdark45 I would go to the edge of Ontario and drive to the lab. It's would be like detroit to the lab + 20 mins
07:45 tehdark45 ~2.5 hours
07:45 Monkeh|Lap Huh?
07:46 tehdark45 live in Ontario
07:46 Monkeh|Lap No thanks
07:46 tehdark45 It is better than the US i'm sure
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07:46 Monkeh|Lap Debatable. I don't particularly like Canada.
07:46 * Monkeh|Lap eats bob
07:47 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, what did canada do to you?
07:47 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Existed. :P
07:47 tehdark45 so then you should hate everywhere
07:47 tehdark45 since it exists
07:47 tehdark45 :P
07:47 Monkeh|Lap I do, generally.
07:47 tehdark45 So, you are Emo?
07:47 tehdark45 :P
07:48 Monkeh|Lap No, but my hair looks like it until I get it trimmed. :P
07:48 tehdark45 your mum can do a bowl cut for you
07:49 Monkeh|Lap Okay, you're coming down to the lab so I can discuss things with you personally. :P
07:49 * Monkeh|Lap works up CNC programming for knuckle dusters
07:49 tehdark45 ok, you pay for me to get there
07:49 Monkeh|Lap No!
07:50 * tehdark45 works up a CNC program for armor
07:52 tehdark45 do you even have a plan for coming?
07:53 Monkeh|Lap Sort of.
07:53 Monkeh|Lap Right now I'm finding out if I can even afford the flight. Then I need to arrange somewhere to stay.
07:54 tehdark45 Yeah thats me. I could coume around May
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07:54 Monkeh|Lap I'm hoping for the 24th.
07:54 tehdark45 whats the 24th?
07:54 tehdark45 or why the 24th?
07:55 Monkeh|Lap Because wannabe can pick me up from Chicago
07:55 tehdark45 isnt MI closer
07:55 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Flight issues.
07:56 tehdark45 ah
07:56 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Stopover required in Chicago, 4 hour wait and won't arrive in GR until late evening, or lift from Chicago and be there late afternoon instead.
07:57 tehdark45 ah
07:58 tehdark45 woah i just searched
07:58 tehdark45 i can get there and bacl for 600
07:59 tehdark45 oh
07:59 tehdark45 tax
07:59 tehdark45 so 800
07:59 tehdark45 lol
07:59 tehdark45 or I could greyhound
07:59 Monkeh|Lap That's more than it'll cost me
08:00 tehdark45 I think I need to take a trip to bellingham
08:00 tehdark45 and then fly to MI
08:00 Monkeh|Lap Just hoping I can find somewhere to stay, because $120 a night is not going to happen
08:00 tehdark45 the lab?
08:00 tehdark45 geek house?
08:00 tehdark45 on the couch
08:01 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Not allowed to stay in the lab, geekhouse is a possibility, but I need to know if I'm even able to go before I ask.
08:01 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, oh right, they hav'nt opend yet have they
08:03 Monkeh|Lap .. wow, that's amazing. As a yank, it's $67 to fly from here to Chicago. As a brit, it's £156.
08:03 Monkeh|Lap Work that one out.
08:04 tehdark45 umm $250?
08:04 tehdark45 $243.32
08:05 tehdark45 i was really close]
08:05 Monkeh|Lap .. And seats aren't available for a one-way ticket?
08:06 tehdark45 lol
08:06 Monkeh|Lap .. now they are, and it's £857 for a one-way ticket
08:07 Monkeh|Lap .. A return ticket is £167 out and £234 back. WHAT?
08:07 tehdark45 lolol
08:07 tehdark45 peak/off peak
08:07 tehdark45 end of the month is off peak
08:07 Monkeh|Lap These are the same seats on the same plane.
08:07 tehdark45 i think
08:07 Monkeh|Lap So fucked up..
08:08 tehdark45 Oh wow
08:09 tehdark45 If I depart from WA, $550
08:11 tehdark45 lolol on return, i have to sit in Seattle for 3 hours
08:11 tehdark45 for a 40 min flight
08:12 Monkeh|Lap Okay, so total flight cost is £426.73..
08:12 Monkeh|Lap $660.
08:14 Monkeh|Lap Departure Fare
08:14 Monkeh|Lap Adult £43.00
08:14 Monkeh|Lap Return Fare
08:14 Monkeh|Lap Adult £256.00
08:14 Monkeh|Lap So I'm paying out my backside to LEAVE the US.
08:14 tehdark45 so
08:14 tehdark45 become refugee
08:14 tehdark45 profit1
08:14 tehdark45 profit!*
08:15 Hackbat Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo
08:17 tehdark45 Buffalo, NY?
08:17 tehdark45 thats abit far
08:17 tehdark45 :P
08:17 Hackbat o.o
08:17 Hackbat what?
08:17 Hackbat don't you know english?
08:18 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, talk to chris, maybe he can do something :P
08:18 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Such as?
08:18 tehdark45 OH OH OH ME PICK ME!
08:19 tehdark45 Stay at GH5!!
08:20 tehdark45 i have solved all of Monkeh|Lap's problems
08:20 Monkeh|Lap tehdark45: Stay in the unheated property which hasn't been renovated yet?
08:20 tehdark45 yep
08:20 Monkeh|Lap Right.
08:20 tehdark45 lol
08:20 * Monkeh|Lap clubs tehdark45 over the head with an Itanic
08:21 Monkeh|Lap Where do you think I'm from, Alaska?
08:21 tehdark45 Hide out so no one sees you?
08:21 Monkeh|Lap Dude, I'll freeze to death.
08:21 tehdark45 Sleep in the tunnel at the lab
08:21 tehdark45 Perfect
08:23 tehdark45 we have it solved then?
08:24 Monkeh|Lap No.
08:26 tehdark45 whats wrong with hiding in the tunnel?
08:26 Monkeh|Lap Dude, I'll freeze to death.
08:27 tehdark45 bring a -0 sleeping bag
08:31 * Sgt_Lemming rages at chris in the latest autopsy video
08:31 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, why?
08:31 Sgt_Lemming the mosfets in that UPS would have been awesome
08:31 tehdark45 oh
08:31 Sgt_Lemming and he just breaks them off the board!
08:33 tehdark45 those coppey things?
08:33 tehdark45 coppery*
08:33 Sgt_Lemming yeah
08:34 Sgt_Lemming the three he just puts his hand on and you can hear em snap >_<
08:34 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Some of them might be okay.
08:34 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh|Lap, sure, 1 out of probably 8 or 12
08:34 tehdark45 lol
08:35 Sgt_Lemming he's not exactly gentle on the pcb or any of the signal lines inside >_<
08:35 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: All the ones on the one he held up looked okay.
08:40 tehdark45 Monkeh|Lap, so does a bent socket 423, but its not]
08:40 tehdark45 :P
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08:43 tehdark45 exciting stuff in here
08:45 Experimentonomen well that ups was a throwout and was considered nonworking, and the geek group doesent seem to consider harvesting stuff from circuit boards, its hardly worth it anyways, u dunno what kinda life transistors have had, and caps are generally a bad idea to reuse
08:46 Experimentonomen and resistors are so cheap its pointless to desolder them
08:47 Experimentonomen recycled semiconductors such as transistors usually work for a while and then die
08:47 Experimentonomen if they even survive the desoldering process
08:49 Experimentonomen and im pretty sure tgg has gaylord upon gaylord(huge cardboard boxes) worth of new unused components donated by now
08:50 egrsteve|lurking probably about a half of gaylord
08:50 egrsteve|lurking of raw components
08:50 tehdark45 yep
08:50 egrsteve|away night all
08:52 Experimentonomen btw those that come to the lab with an idea, like if i walked in with the schemo of an amplifier and built it using materials donated to tgg, is that poroject them supposed to stay at the lab for others to play with or would you be allowed to take it home like if it was all yours ?
08:53 Experimentonomen maybe thats a question for chris himself to answer in the viewer mail part of the captains blog
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09:01 tehdark45 I think you can take it home. If I remeber from old Kzoo videos, chris said come, hack things together, pay a small price for the meterials and go home. But now that there is membership, maybe you can just take it home
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09:03 Experimentonomen i shot a pm off to chris, i assume though that donating members either beeing money or stuff could be seen as having paid for the materials used
09:03 Experimentonomen lets see if he just sends a pm back to be or if he actually answers it over youtube
09:03 tehdark45 probably both
09:04 Experimentonomen if he answers at all considering he likely gets several tens of thousands of pm's per day if not per hour
09:05 tehdark45 you have G+?
09:05 Experimentonomen nope
09:05 Experimentonomen i dont use that social media bs like g+, facebook, etc
09:06 Experimentonomen that stuff in my opinion is for kids
09:06 tehdark45 Well I added Chris on G+ and he added me. He is away most of the time, but he is online somtimes.
09:07 tehdark45 so thats one way to do it
09:07 Experimentonomen im pretty sure this exact question has already been asked by others a million times over already and possibly even answered several times over by chris
09:08 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, how far back have you watchd main channel?
09:09 Experimentonomen i've mostly watched the equipement autopsies, now theres just too many videos to go through to look for the answer to my question
09:10 tehdark45 how new are you?
09:11 Experimentonomen i dont rmember when i registered on the forum but it cant be more than a year if that, i've known about tgg for some years though
09:11 tehdark45 wat about the channel
09:12 Experimentonomen and i've been on irc on and off pretty much since the first live session they ever did wnich i think was not long after this channel was started
09:12 Sgt_Lemming I first joined the channel on 30/08/2010
09:12 Sgt_Lemming live session started ages after this channel
09:12 Experimentonomen back then this channel only had chris, i think kidwell and a few others, mainly those that were on camera + 3-4 members
09:13 tehdark45 why did they change to justin?
09:13 Experimentonomen cuz ustream sucks
09:13 Sgt_Lemming my logs say bullcrap Experimentonomen
09:13 Experimentonomen though justin is just ustream with a diff skin
09:13 Sgt_Lemming I don't think I've ever seen kidwell on here, boden yes, eakin yes, but not kidwell
09:14 tehdark45 .seen dad
09:14 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen dad around.
09:14 tehdark45 lololol
09:15 Experimentonomen i have a vauge memory that i can swear i've seen kidwell on here at some point, maybe it was before you joined, as far as i remember, the first live session was when they were banging on a ibm toughbook with a wooden mallet
09:16 Experimentonomen bt i could be wrong
09:17 Experimentonomen im pretty sure it was before any of the video editing stuff existed, i think it all was chris's lappy, a webcam and a mic back then and the channel users were no more tha  like 10-15 when active and like 2-3 the rest of the time
09:18 tehdark45 what time was this?
09:18 tehdark45 year
09:18 Experimentonomen so yeh i think i first joined right when i found the notice on the forum about the irc channel
09:18 Experimentonomen i dont remember
09:19 tehdark45 if you watch the NPR video
09:20 tehdark45 he says stuff about making things
09:20 tehdark45 i think
09:20 Experimentonomen but i remember it was when chris got in trouble with the insurance company and all that when they had valued all the donated stuff and wanned extra money and all that when it seemed like it was the end of tgg
09:21 tehdark45 It wasn't insurance
09:21 Experimentonomen it was something
09:21 tehdark45 The township of kzoo
09:21 tehdark45 taxes
09:22 tehdark45 they were like : Derp, 901c(3)? naww, PAY US THE TAXES NAO!!
09:22 Experimentonomen thats around the time i joined or atleast started beeing here more often than just a few minutes a year and such
09:23 tehdark45 the first video I saw was him and kidwell with the air raid siren
09:24 CaptainNiobe morning all :)
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09:24 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, you cant be captain :P
09:26 CaptainNiobe oh, i'm teh first captain... :P (not being selfish, turns out i've been using a captain in my name for more time, so...)
09:26 tehdark45 so since 1994?
09:27 CaptainNiobe i've been using it since 2005, chris was duck until a couple of years ago
09:27 tehdark45 i think he is both :P
09:28 DruidicRifleman sooooo TNT is um dangerous
09:28 tehdark45 DruidicRifleman, WHAT?
09:28 tehdark45 REALLY?
09:28 CaptainNiobe chris doesn't use duck anymore, period...
09:28 tehdark45 :O
09:29 DruidicRifleman Cprossu and i blewup the lab
09:29 CaptainNiobe lol... oh, shit, druidic, what did you 2 do?
09:29 DruidicRifleman Soooo i could put up asign
09:29 tehdark45 Cprossu, it's all your fault
09:29 DruidicRifleman it was his idea
09:29 tehdark45 lo
09:29 CaptainNiobe dare i log in?
09:29 DruidicRifleman wewe'retrying to figure out what electronics did
09:29 DruidicRifleman yeah
09:29 DruidicRifleman the hole israther epic
09:30 CaptainNiobe hang on, i'll launch teamspeak too
09:30 tehdark45 Oh and also, when Chris opend the AZ flag, I was like, thats AZ while chris was jumping like a mad man
09:30 tehdark45 lol
10:03 einball1 Chris doesn't fit into a suit :P
10:06 einball1 Geeks don't fit to suits
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10:07 CaptainNiobe hey sero
10:07 Seroster EEEP
10:10 CaptainNiobe "eeep"? O.O
10:10 einball1 I think that supposed to be EEK EP :P
10:21 Experimentonomen guten tag einball1
10:25 einball1 moin Experimentonomen
10:25 einball1 Wie geht's?
10:26 einball1 :D
10:28 einball1 Experimentonomen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epRhCFauHaI It says "stories from the paulaner beergarden" ... The dubai guy says "I don't want to buy that carpet..please" *gets a beer* "Good trip" "yeah, alright" ... I love that ad :)
10:28 BotSteve Title: "Ich möchte diesen Teppich nicht kaufen" - Paulaner Werbung - YouTube
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10:36 Experimentonomen hm
10:40 Experimentonomen bbiab
10:43 Hackbat love the comments in the kindle's script files
10:44 einball1 Hackbat: Did you read the comments for the LEM computer? :)
10:44 Hackbat # otherwise, we're in startup city, so check for the boot args
10:44 Hackbat They're just so non formal
10:45 Hackbat gives you an idea of the sorta people that work on the kindle
10:45 einball1 :)
10:47 einball1 'If this is activated something went terribly wrong
10:47 einball1 :D
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11:11 Sgt_Lemming http://www.sparkfun.com/products/11079 <--- TGG needs to make a stamp for these :-D
11:11 BotSteve Title: Hackerspace Passport - SparkFun Electronics
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11:41 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Yes, Kidwell has been on IRC.
11:41 Ponko i don't know how people on here would miss the topic
11:41 Sgt_Lemming rarely if ever
11:42 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Rarely, but he has been on.
11:42 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: He goes by tmbomber
11:42 Ponko tmb is Kidwell
11:43 Ponko the Michigan bomber?
11:45 Ponko lets talk free energy......
12:06 Seroster I got some measurements off my motstack
12:06 Seroster It draws 11.5a peak
12:07 Seroster 7-8 when arc is drawn
12:07 Seroster 3 at rest xD
12:07 Ponko i take that's a good thing lol
12:07 Seroster I got three amps of heat
12:07 Seroster .c 3*230
12:07 BotSteve 690
12:07 Ponko bloody hell
12:07 Seroster Its 700watts heating my mots xD
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12:08 Ponko lol that is good then
12:10 DruidicRifleman the mad bombrt
12:10 DruidicRifleman bombrt
12:10 DruidicRifleman bomber
12:11 Ponko yeah that would seem the most logical lol
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12:51 RageRiot its been a while since i was last here. hello again.
12:51 Ponko hello :)
12:52 RageRiot :)
12:52 RageRiot just on my dinner hour at work.
12:53 Ponko ah
12:53 Ponko best eat your dinner
12:53 RageRiot having to use my phone to come on here because work internet blocks irc
12:54 RageRiot i finished that already :)
12:54 Ponko typical
12:54 Ponko ah well then never mind lol
12:54 Sgt_Lemming night all
12:55 Ponko night Sarge
12:55 yNos hiya akk
12:55 BotSteve ynos: I have the following messages for you:
12:55 BotSteve At 01 Jan 01:29Z, roadran422 asked me to tell ynos I said, I didn't know you had a huge forhead! http://www.stellaflysocialmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/DSC1760.jpg
12:55 RageRiot ive gotta go through cctv footage after dinner. need to go back 30 days because a staff members car has damage apprently
12:56 RageRiot my only problem is the monitor is goosed. it cuts off the date n time.
12:56 Ponko hmm that sounds like.... fun
12:56 RageRiot the top and bottom patys
12:57 yNos BotSteve: tell roadran422 Fo Sho, 'perently is abt 6ft tall!
12:57 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when roadran422 is around.
12:57 RageRiot parts of the screen are stretched
12:57 Ponko how long will that take
12:57 RageRiot lol proabably all afternoon
12:58 Ponko ah ok
12:58 Ponko so not 30 days :P
12:58 DruidicRifleman morning yNos
12:59 RageRiot well if i cant find anything this afternoon then it would have overwritten the day is was supose to have happend.
13:00 Ponko ah ok
13:00 Ponko or it didn't happen at all
13:00 RageRiot yep
13:01 yNos so how are things going in here today.. been busy as funk at work..
13:01 Ponko 9 times out of 10 that would be the case
13:02 DruidicRifleman Some Creepy fuck came in team speak
13:02 Ponko o_O oh?
13:02 Ponko how so creepy DruidicRifleman?
13:03 RageRiot could somone post a direct download link to a irc client. anything windows based and free.
13:03 DruidicRifleman he came in and started talking about having asmall dick
13:03 Ponko O_O ah right
13:03 yNos when DruidicRifleman says they are creepy, that means a lot!
13:04 DruidicRifleman http://www.bassonline.com/snakehead_fishing.html
13:04 BotSteve Title: Snakehead Fishing in Florida
13:04 CaptainNiobe druidic: that's a fail :P
13:05 CaptainNiobe that was an... interesting chat with that guy... lol... i'm on teamspeak with druidic
13:05 Ponko that channel got a log?
13:05 CaptainNiobe not sure
13:05 Ponko it's #teamspeak right
13:06 CaptainNiobe it's not an irc channel
13:06 Ponko oh... ok
13:06 CaptainNiobe this is actually teamspeak, voice to voice
13:06 Ponko oh right
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13:08 einball dubdub :)
13:08 Experimentonomen RageRiot, try icechat
13:09 einball Now I have to listen to 3hours of crappy presentations ... winwin day :P
13:09 RageRiot i just managed to downloas bersirc
13:09 RageRiot thanks tjo
13:09 RageRiot tho*
13:10 DruidicRifleman hey yNos
13:10 DruidicRifleman I am amking a knife
13:10 DruidicRifleman Happens that the design i choose
13:10 DruidicRifleman Is used as the test for theamarican bladesmith societys master smith rank test
13:10 DruidicRifleman ,.
13:10 DruidicRifleman FML
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13:12 MadManMarkAu Argon walks into a bar. The bartender says "We don't serve noble gasses here!". Argon does not react.
13:12 Ponko lol
13:14 RageRiot still no luck. just fails to connect on works internet
13:14 MadManMarkAu How many ears does Spok have
13:14 MadManMarkAu ?\
13:14 MadManMarkAu A left-ear, a right-ear and a final front-ear
13:14 RageRiot lol
13:15 Ponko oh god
13:15 Ponko i've heard that before
13:15 RageRiot i watched 3 episodes of tng yestoday :)
13:15 yNos DruidicRifleman can you link it?
13:15 DruidicRifleman team speak or knife???
13:16 DruidicRifleman http://www.americanbladesmith.com/index.php?section=pages&amp;id=178
13:16 BotSteve Title: American Bladesmith
13:16 DruidicRifleman here is the master blade smith
13:16 DruidicRifleman 's thing
13:16 DruidicRifleman i wonder if eakins a member
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13:17 MadManMarkAu A Higgs-Boson particle walks into a church. The pastor says, "You aren't allowed in here. You call yourself the god-particle. THat's sacreligious." The Higgs-Boson says "If you don't allow Higgs-Boson particles, how do you have mass?"
13:17 RageRiot woot!!
13:17 RageRiot i managed to connect with port 8000
13:17 Ponko anyone know what happened to dbshortwave
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13:18 Experimentonomen hes prolly on vacation, considering itsw been xmas and newyears
13:18 RageRiot thats better, typing on a phone touch screen sucks after a while
13:21 DruidicRifleman Mines not going to be good enough since i am really
13:22 DruidicRifleman new
13:22 Ponko idk Experimentonomen maybe
13:22 Ponko .seen dbshortwave
13:22 BotSteve Ponko: I last saw dbshortwave 400.50 hours ago at 2011-12-23 20:52:15 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 13:22:20 UTC
13:22 Ponko hmm
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13:43 NeWtoz I so should of not slept so long
13:43 NeWtoz work tonight is going to be a pain
13:43 Ponko yep
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13:48 Experimentonomen speaking of the trolls
13:49 Experimentonomen g'day dbshortwave
13:49 dbshortwave thats Mr Troll to you
13:49 Experimentonomen we were just talking about you :P
13:49 CaptainNiobe welcome back, db *hugs* :)
13:49 dbshortwave didnt think i was that big of a topic
13:50 dbshortwave lol
13:50 Experimentonomen CaptainNiobe, Captainhugz ;)
13:50 CaptainNiobe g'day, ex :) *hugs experimentonomen*
13:52 * Experimentonomen feels so lazy
13:53 * einball too :D
13:54 * CaptainNiobe has an excuse of it being almost midnight
13:54 CaptainNiobe :D
13:55 einball uhm .. 14:55 in here
13:55 Experimentonomen i wanna finish up the 2.1 amp enuf for a test but i feel like i cant be bothered :/
13:55 dbshortwave 08:55 here
13:56 einball I just sit in my english lesson right now
13:56 einball booring :)
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13:57 einball1_ Doh! the university network is slower than morse code telegraphy :P
13:57 DruidicRifleman did you get the link yNos?
13:58 Experimentonomen einball1, file a complaint "your network sucks" :P
13:59 einball1_ Experimentonomen: the problem is: the person that administers the network has only 2 (paid) hours per week for it
14:01 einball1_ And they KNOW that their network sucks :D
14:02 Experimentonomen yank out a cable and say "your network is broken" just to be a dick ;)
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14:10 einball1_ Experimentonomen: hrhr
14:10 einball1_ Being a dick is cool
14:11 einball1_ Being a troll is also nice
14:12 dbshortwave if its wireless change the SSID you "owner <3s 8==" ill leave the last part out
14:12 dbshortwave to*
14:13 einball1_ hrhr. I thought about a man in the middle attack on ppl logging into fb od twitter
14:13 einball1_ just to log into their facebook and write "you are a dick" :D
14:15 dbshortwave lol
14:16 einball1_ Or I use a 2.4Ghz disrupter muhaha
14:16 dbshortwave just get in the WAP an changes things
14:17 einball1_ spray the ap with conductive paint :P
14:17 einball1_ no, iam not that bad :D
14:21 einball1_ OMG! There are girls here at university :o
14:22 einball1_ Never saw that species here on campus
14:22 einball1_ '(At least not in the electrical engineering building :D )
14:23 yNos DruidicRifleman: Yes, i got it, am just bouncing around from meeting to meeting now :(
14:23 DruidicRifleman AH
14:24 DruidicRifleman yeah.... i happen to pick a project like that
14:24 DruidicRifleman for my second knife
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14:42 daniela s
14:42 dbshortwave .
14:42 einball1_ ssSSSsshsssSHhhSHsshsh
14:42 einball1_ ups :(
14:43 einball1_ Python just didn't work
14:43 dbshortwave meh
14:56 dbshortwave ill be around some point bbl
14:57 Seroster Börk
14:57 * einball1_ serves the Xel'Naga
15:00 NeWtoz does anyone have a direct link to the donation form?
15:01 azop NeWtoz: http://thegeekgroup.org/support/donate/ ?
15:01 BotSteve Title: Donate | The Geek Group
15:02 NeWtoz doesn't work for me
15:02 azop hrm
15:02 yNos hay there
15:02 yNos hows it going azop?
15:03 azop yNos: great
15:03 azop yNos: pushing out a new driver today, https://github.com/bluecherrydvr/solo6x10/issues?sort=created&amp;direction=desc&amp;state=closed&amp;page=1&amp;milestone=4
15:03 BotSteve Title: Issues - bluecherrydvr/solo6x10 - GitHub
15:04 azop yNos: there's also a utility now to change the display port that comes off the back of the card
15:05 azop so you can see different layouts on a external TV or something that has a composite input
15:09 BitViper those bluecherries appear to be awsome stuff, two of my friends have one model or another. unfortunately I aint had a chance to see em in action yet
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15:11 ajcc ello
15:22 yNos nice :D
15:22 yNos we have ran into an issue where a couple of the ports are not working.. i dont remember the numbers offhand..
15:22 yNos we were working on it on sat, shuffling things around.
15:23 yNos i think it was 3,6,9,12...
15:23 yNos azop ^
15:24 Seroster Lol
15:24 Seroster "WARNING LASER BEAM DO NOT POINT INTO EYES!"
15:25 BitViper darwin circumvention alert
15:25 Seroster Yeah.. Eh. That warning on a <1mw red laser is about as retarded as the MSDS for tapwater.
15:25 azop yNos: not working as in no video or?
15:25 * Seroster headdesks
15:25 BitViper hey no desk abuse
15:26 Seroster If you warn people of things that are not actually dangerous they will not listen to the warnings that are actually valid
15:26 yNos not showing any video.. not sure if it is card/software issue, tried a few different inputs, but no dice.
15:26 Seroster ISNT THE STORY ABOUT THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF EVER TOLD TO ANYONE?!
15:26 BitViper its too antique
15:26 BitViper i think wx forecasters need to read it
15:26 CaptainNiobe it's still valid though
15:26 Seroster Fuck it, make a new one, the boy who cried "usama" - a few times, and then the towers fell.
15:26 BitViper certainly is
15:27 BitViper LOL hrm
15:27 Seroster CaptainNiobe, The warning or the story? The warning isnt, I could stare into five lasers like that at the same time until the batteries run dry in a day or two and still be fine.
15:28 CaptainNiobe the moral of that story, it's very valid... sprout the same false bullshit for too long, and when the real thing actually happens, no one believes it...
15:28 azop yNos: wget http://lizard.bluecherry.net/~curt/tmp/solo6010-dkms_2.4.0-1_all.deb ; sudo dpkg -i solo6010-dkms_2.4.0-1_all.deb
15:29 azop then reboot and see if that fixes it
15:31 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLL0mo5rHhk if anyone is into math, which everyone should be
15:31 BotSteve Title: 31 and Mersenne Primes - Numberphile - YouTube
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15:41 wannabe1987 theres a strange man in thehouse/basmenet and nicks home from work.  its a weird day! :/
15:43 DruidicRifleman i see
15:44 DruidicRifleman yNos Eiken is not a member of american Bladesmiths society they apparently are pretentious ass holes
15:44 wannabe1987 and i have to leave in 6 minutes
15:44 wannabe1987 why can't anything work like its supposed to?!
15:44 wannabe1987 or more accurately, why does google hate me/my computer/browser
15:45 DruidicRifleman ????
15:45 DruidicRifleman shoot strange man???
15:45 wannabe1987 no, he's in my female housemates room....
15:45 wannabe1987 must be her boyfriend
15:45 wannabe1987 :P
15:47 DruidicRifleman ah lol
15:47 wannabe1987 also, i know where the bullets are kept, but not the weaponry.
15:47 wannabe1987 i can throw bullets at him! :P
15:47 DruidicRifleman LOL
15:50 wannabe1987 :)
15:54 wannabe-afk i'm going to be late :shit:
15:58 Seroster Routing in concrete sucks
15:59 astro73|alice hello geeks
15:59 astro73|alice who started classes today?
15:59 SparkyProjects Seroster, uless you have one of these http://www.kelvinpowertools.com/metabo-wall-chaser-125mm-mfe30-240v-c-75-p-1713
15:59 BotSteve Title: Metabo MFE30 | Metabo Wall Chaser 125mm MFE30 - 240V
16:00 SparkyProjects We had one at work, did a good job, 2 lines cut at same time, then just lever out the remainder
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16:04 DruidicRifleman speed runner???
16:05 Seroster ...Yes, thats him...
16:05 Seroster SparkyProjects, Yeah, I don'
16:05 Seroster t
16:05 Seroster And that is far too big for what Im doing
16:05 speed-ponyG55 Druidic
16:05 speed-ponyG55 ?
16:05 Seroster I need to fit a pipe inside a concrete endcap in a tube
16:05 SparkyProjects They can be hired if you have a lot of it to do.
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16:06 Seroster Biggest bit? 10mm. Diameter of thing to fit in hole? 40mm... =P
16:06 Seroster Three holes and routing.
16:06 SparkyProjects Or you can create a lot of dust and just but the disc for your angle grinder (done that before in an empty house)
16:07 Seroster N/A
16:07 speed-ponyG55 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGSEw0-aGeM   ponies, that is all
16:07 BotSteve Title: Ponies and ponies and ponies and ponies - YouTube
16:08 SparkyProjects You need a core drill for the 40mm hole, though i thing those will oly fit in a 13mm chuck
16:08 Seroster I misread.
16:08 Seroster WAAT
16:09 Seroster I can count the drills without a 12mm chuck without having to remove my socks.
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16:33 Electricguy hello everyone :)
16:33 CaptainNiobe g'day, eg, how are you?
16:34 Electricguy pretty good. still coughing a little from the cold and a bit tired, otherwise good :)
16:34 Electricguy and you?
16:34 CaptainNiobe i'm good, other than being pissed off at my computer for lagging, otherwise fine... :)
16:34 Electricguy heh okey :)
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16:59 Professional hey wat up?
17:00 DruidicRifleman world domination
17:00 CaptainNiobe hey... it's pretty quiet in here atm... :)
17:00 Ponko yep
17:00 * Ponko lounges and drinks tea
17:00 NeWtoz doing what I do every day, trying to take over the world
17:01 * CaptainNiobe lounges and watches judge judy
17:01 Ponko lol
17:02 Seroster Aww ffs CaptainNiobe
17:02 Seroster Why do you watch that horrible woman?
17:02 CaptainNiobe what?
17:02 CaptainNiobe she's cool :D
17:02 Seroster No, she's a bitch
17:02 CaptainNiobe she's a judge, she has to be at times
17:03 Seroster Neither Pirro nor alex has to
17:03 Seroster Or, have, thatis
17:04 CaptainNiobe small claims court, the majority of it seems to deal with property...
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17:15 tonsofpcs Any suggestions for dumb UPNP AV clients w/ HDMI and/or CVBS outputs?  (I need a device with each type of output. Both wired and wireless are acceptable although I'd prefer wired for HD ones and wireless for SD ones)
17:21 Av_Nekoroms btw photonicinduction closed hes yt account
17:21 CaptainNiobe we know :)
17:23 Seroster Old new Av_Nekoroms
17:23 Seroster *+s
17:23 DruidicRifleman yeah some low blows in that video
17:24 Av_Nekoroms not to me it wasnt old
17:24 DruidicRifleman biter old brit
17:24 CaptainNiobe but when it's all you hear about for 2 days straight, it gets old fast... :)
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17:27 Av_Nekoroms was it before the chris comments or after
17:27 CaptainNiobe he lefty before chris commented in his video. he just used chris and tgg as one of the reasons he left (sort of)
17:27 CaptainNiobe left*
17:28 Av_Nekoroms he.. well he was a mad scientist
17:28 CaptainNiobe photon made the complaint chris stole that idea off of him (the bauble on gemini), and then went on and profited off of it.
17:28 tonsofpcs anyone here good with acoustic math?  I'm trying to figure out how much power and what sort of speakers I'll need to properly fill a space
17:29 Av_Nekoroms tell
17:29 CaptainNiobe ?
17:30 NeWtoz It's always best to fill a space to those plastic play pen balls
17:30 Av_Nekoroms tonsofpcs: http://www.puiaudio.com/pdf/speaker_power_distance.pdf
17:31 tonsofpcs right, it gets a bit more complex than that when you have sound absorptive material around the edge of the room (which actually helps the math) and a room full of 100-200 people
17:31 Av_Nekoroms not much
17:32 dr_jkl o.o
17:32 Av_Nekoroms if you plan no5 having any headroom then it is complicated
17:32 Av_Nekoroms 'not
17:34 DruidicRifleman yeah that was BS i saw the vide when chris did that he gave photonic free press on his personal blog
17:35 DruidicRifleman and he cut the video up allot
17:37 einball1 Rythm is a dancer! :)
17:38 wannabe1987 hi
17:38 einball1 tonsofpcs: Why math? 200PAX so depending on the music you need 1kW-5kW
17:38 CaptainNiobe g'day wannabe :)
17:38 wannabe1987 hi niobe
17:38 einball1 hi wannabe1987
17:38 wannabe1987 hi einball1
17:38 wannabe1987 you has a number!
17:38 wannabe1987 o.O
17:39 einball1 yes .. because my internet connection failed :)
17:39 einball better? :)
17:39 wannabe1987 yes
17:39 Av_Nekoroms 200 needs separate subs and mains
17:39 einball Sure!
17:39 Av_Nekoroms if it isnt lounge music
17:39 einball One or two subs on each side and a top
17:40 Av_Nekoroms one sub/top is enough
17:40 einball (Dubstep needs moar subwoofers :D )
17:40 einball He hasn't even said what type of music
17:41 Av_Nekoroms http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgkDZrHjT3g
17:41 BotSteve Title: Concert sound system test (pop-up video style) TSA Productions - YouTube
17:41 einball Leider ist dieses Video, das Musik von UMG enthält, in Deutschland nicht verfügbar. Die GEMA hat die Verlagsrechte hieran nicht eingeräumt.Das tut uns leid.
17:41 Av_Nekoroms that system would be enough for anything
17:41 einball "this vid is not available in oyur country because your music authorities (GEMA) suck balls
17:41 einball "
17:41 * einball likes that message
17:43 Av_Nekoroms einball: something similar for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZjvleLzBBg
17:43 BotSteve Title: PA system for d'n'b event Pirate Station Immortal - YouTube
17:44 einball It's a little bit oversized for 200 PAX, isn't it? :D
17:44 Av_Nekoroms just a little
17:44 tonsofpcs einball: PAX?
17:45 wannabe1987 tea, anyone?
17:45 CaptainNiobe i have coffee, i'm good :D
17:45 wannabe1987 only coffe i have is instant :/
17:45 einball tonsofpcs: estimated listeners
17:45 CaptainNiobe me too lol
17:46 einball Oh well .. Av_Nekoroms, I've got a PA sub in my room .. So ... who cares about overkill, right? :D
17:46 tonsofpcs Av_Nekoroms, einball: the space is an old school gymnasium.  We have an infinity cyc (really heavy black curtain) that will close off the sides acoustically (and visually), with a grey hard cyc screen.  I plan on mounting speakers to a 14' high grid, perhaps stereo in two sets or some sort of surround arrangement
17:46 tonsofpcs the space is... (grabbing my scale)
17:47 yNos hey all
17:47 Av_Nekoroms no stereo
17:47 Seroster Coffee. Blergh.
17:47 Av_Nekoroms everyone needs to hear left and right for it to work
17:47 tonsofpcs about 50' wide wall-to-wall, 43-46' with the cyc drawn
17:47 einball stereo is only useful if you plan to do effects using stereo :)
17:47 tonsofpcs and 66' deep
17:48 Av_Nekoroms pretty easy
17:48 Seroster Not even the spawn of satan himself should ever have to drink that horrible black goo.
17:48 CaptainNiobe i like coffee
17:48 tonsofpcs einball: erm... I'd guess 70% of what we show will be stereo mixed, the other 30% will be surround mixed, maybe < 1% (by run time) will be mono.
17:49 einball surround!?
17:49 tonsofpcs einball: hi, welcome to a television studio :)
17:49 einball You want to set up a Pa for a television studio!?
17:50 einball Isn't that a bit ... senseless? :P
17:50 tonsofpcs no, I want to set up an audio system for a projection system that will be housed inside a television studio.  If I can use it for PA during live shows also (due to placement trickery), all the better!
17:51 Av_Nekoroms if one doesnt know what should be used one isnt qualified to install anything
17:51 einball Aorry, I have no clue about non-pa systems :)
17:51 tonsofpcs Av_Nekoroms: I know what I need feature-wise and I have thoughts placement wise (I can do wave propogation, etc.), I just need to get a feel for power.
17:52 tonsofpcs I do have some speakers and amps that I can set up to test but I'd like to have a baseline idea.
17:52 Av_Nekoroms tonsofpcs: that chart works for that
17:53 Av_Nekoroms if you know what db's you want
17:53 yNos yawn
17:53 Av_Nekoroms lawn youmean?
17:53 yNos yeah
17:53 einball I think yNos just woke up
17:54 yNos boring lunch..
17:54 yNos been grinding on setting up some VMs.
17:54 Sgt_Lemming lo yNos
17:54 yNos hiya
17:54 DruidicRifleman WB ynos
17:54 DruidicRifleman Dan hates that bladesmithing society
17:55 DruidicRifleman if you didn't see
17:55 yNos most people do
17:55 tonsofpcs [A | B]  is the space; the | is an imaginary line with a very real movable wall that has NEVER been used.  Normal television production stage is at B, with audience on the A side and partially into the B side.  When we show a video to an audience (for a screening, meetings, etc.), we will project onto the [ at A.  I figure we can either place a set of speakers at the corners of the [ (roughly) pointing \ and / and another set a
17:55 DruidicRifleman hmmmm
17:55 tonsofpcs and I can do inverse distance falloff math without a chart.  I'm more looking into space absorption and absorption-per-person type of crazy math ;)
17:56 Av_Nekoroms tonsofpcs: and you need subs
17:56 Av_Nekoroms or massive mains
17:56 Av_Nekoroms what isnt what one would like
17:56 Av_Nekoroms ugly etc
17:57 tonsofpcs Av_Nekoroms: I definitely don't need subs during a live show (where the audience hearing is a 100% secondary matter and coupling must be minimized).  I will need some solution for theatrical presentation.  What that is is up for debate, as the needs aren't really for me to decide.
17:58 tonsofpcs well, when the speaker is hanging on a grid 14' in the air, I don't really care how ugly it is.  Our current 'installed' sound reinforcement system is an old 70s wooden-box style speaker bolted to two 2x4s across some pipes
17:58 Av_Nekoroms lol
17:58 tonsofpcs (we don't actually use that speaker for anything but playing music into the space while working)
17:59 tonsofpcs (and maybe a god mic here and there)
17:59 DruidicRifleman botsteve should i sleep?
17:59 BotSteve Nope
17:59 DruidicRifleman botsteve should i make killer homicidal robots
17:59 BotSteve Oh yeah!
17:59 tonsofpcs currently we set up some mackie powered speakers per-event (SRM 450s)
17:59 Av_Nekoroms some big studio monitors could work for the 5.1 sound
17:59 DruidicRifleman botsteve should i make knives
17:59 BotSteve Nope
17:59 tonsofpcs (or SRM 350s for smaller events)
17:59 DruidicRifleman bot steve you suck
18:01 tonsofpcs I might just fly the two SRM 450s to test...
18:01 Sgt_Lemming TGG wants to setup RFID throughout the building sometime in the next year correct?
18:01 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: TGG wants to do everything everytime.
18:01 Sgt_Lemming heh
18:03 Sgt_Lemming well I just ask because I am working on a board atm that connects to an Arduino Mega, gives 3 serial connections (for 3 RFID readers) and 3 opto-isolated outputs for driving door strikes, along with an ethernet module
18:03 tonsofpcs 124dB @ 1m ...
18:04 einball horrible volume
18:04 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, equinoxe, love this album
18:06 einball Yay, deephouse on clubtime.fm :)
18:07 tonsofpcs einball: huh?
18:08 einball tonsofpcs: deep house is house with very much bass and fits to the minimal/chillout genre
18:08 SparkyProjects Sgt_Lemming: that's the way our door access worked, a local box (although it had a computer motherboard inside) powered by rechargeable batteries
18:08 SparkyProjects The main console computer updated inormation to all the local boxes, or the local box could grab new info from the main console
18:08 SparkyProjects That means the local boxes were 'stand alone' for the most part, and in a power cut or a loss of network could still operate normally
18:08 tonsofpcs no, "horrible volume"
18:08 einball Really great when smoking waterpipe
18:08 tonsofpcs what do you mean by "horrible volume" ?
18:08 Sgt_Lemming SparkyProjects, the current system at the space is basically what I described, sans the opto isolation
18:08 SparkyProjects The local boxes handled readers, door contacts, and locks
18:09 einball tonsofpcs: 124db@1m@1W is very efficient :)
18:09 Sgt_Lemming but it's a mega kludge system atm, trying to make it a bit better
18:09 Seroster Hey SparkyProjects
18:09 Seroster I got some measurements off my motstack
18:09 SparkyProjects And ?
18:09 Seroster It draws 3amps at rest, stable 7 when arc is drawn and 12 for a few seconds when the arc is initiated =P
18:10 Seroster .c 13200/230
18:10 BotSteve 57.3913043
18:10 BitViper_Lappy hrm, i think Cprossu's minecrap machine just blew up
18:10 Seroster So its a 57:1 relationship
18:10 SparkyProjects Sounds about right
18:10 SparkyProjects I assume you have series ballast ?
18:10 Seroster .c 7/57
18:10 BotSteve 0.122807018
18:10 Seroster 122ma, right?
18:11 SparkyProjects 122mA ?
18:11 Seroster Yeah, I have, they get toasty in a hurry if you don't
18:11 Seroster Yeah, isnt my calculation sound?
18:11 SparkyProjects is that 122mA output ?
18:11 Seroster .122A at the 13kv side
18:11 Seroster Yeah
18:11 Seroster Just four times lethal =)
18:12 SparkyProjects 122mA is close enough
18:12 einball Seroster: Who cares? Greater lethality means greater attractivity :D
18:13 SparkyProjects nearly 1.7KW
18:13 Seroster And even if I calculated it to three milliamps I STILL wouldnt want to touch it.
18:13 Seroster Approaching the double when initiated
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18:14 Sgt_Lemming please tell me someone here knows what the hell "Equinoxe" is, and I don't mean the day of the year
18:15 SparkyProjects Only other Equinoxe i know is by Jean Michel Jarre
18:15 SparkyProjects \nd \ tv prog
18:16 SparkyProjects *And a TV prog
18:17 Sgt_Lemming woot, someone who knows it
18:17 Sgt_Lemming awesome album no?
18:17 einball It's a skillrex remix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYYyMu3pzL4
18:17 BotSteve Title: FIRST OF THE YEAR (EQUINOX) - SKRILLEX - YouTube
18:17 Sgt_Lemming no, no it's not
18:17 Sgt_Lemming no "e" on the end for a start
18:17 einball oh
18:17 einball ops
18:18 SparkyProjects I have several Jarre albums :)
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18:18 Sgt_Lemming einball, it's a piece of electronic music done by one of the pioneers of it, who also held the record for the largest outdoor concert for a number of years
18:18 Sgt_Lemming 1.3 million people
18:18 Cprossu noooo
18:19 Cprossu my internet is flaking out
18:19 Sgt_Lemming the really amusing part is that before the concert he couldn't get a record deal, because they said he couldn't do it in front of a live audience :-P
18:19 einball Hmm, well ... I don't know if I'd like that piece of music
18:20 Sgt_Lemming .yt Jean Michel Jarre Equinoxe
18:20 SparkyProjects Also held the record for the most expensive fireworks display (Docklands London), not sure if this is the right figure, but £5Million
18:20 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pddS0wGjKH8
18:20 * einball likes Pink Floyd and Kraftwerk and Vangelis and Tangerine Dream
18:20 Sgt_Lemming bleh, crappy link
18:20 Sgt_Lemming fail BotSteve, fail
18:20 SparkyProjects einball, me too
18:20 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFjtxDfrjB0
18:20 BotSteve Title: Jean Michel Jarre - Equinoxe part 1 - YouTube
18:20 Sgt_Lemming einball, I like all of those as well
18:21 einball hmm
18:21 Sgt_Lemming the really amazing part about this album is it almost seems to tell a story, but there are no words in it, it's all music
18:21 Sgt_Lemming oh, apparently he still holds the record for largest concert SparkyProjects
18:22 Sgt_Lemming 3.5 million people in moscow
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18:27 wannabe1987 hi dbshortwave
18:27 dbshortwave hi
18:27 * tonsofpcs digs into THX docs
18:27 wannabe1987 did you  miss us?
18:27 Sgt_Lemming oooh, have fun there tonsofpcs :-P
18:28 dbshortwave um i plea the 5th
18:28 wannabe1987 lol ok
18:28 wannabe1987 internet is boring w/o tggirc :) i understand
18:28 wannabe1987 welcome back
18:28 dbshortwave thx
18:29 dbshortwave its cold
18:30 dbshortwave but the suns out
18:30 wannabe1987 .tfw tgg
18:30 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: if I can find them...
18:30 BotSteve 39°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Call your local travel agency and ask them if they're serious.'
18:30 wannabe1987 same
18:30 wannabe1987 o its a bit warm
18:30 Sgt_Lemming heh
18:30 Cprossu how goes it dbshortwave?
18:30 tonsofpcs the video specs are easy to find because the home theater geeks go crazy over them
18:30 dbshortwave not bad so far
18:30 tonsofpcs as are freq response, but the SPLs are not
18:30 dbshortwave things are starting to gat back to the norm around here
18:31 Phu Yay! It's been 24 hours and no hard disk errors!
18:31 * Phu pats Linux Box Mk. 3.
18:31 Sgt_Lemming heh
18:31 Sgt_Lemming same hardware or diferent hardware?
18:31 wannabe1987 .in 20min LEAVE
18:31 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 18:51Z
18:31 wannabe1987 .in 10min go get ready
18:31 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 18:41Z
18:31 Sgt_Lemming lol
18:32 tonsofpcs I found EIA reverb specs...
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18:33 Phu Sgt_Lemming: essentially, and entirely new PC. New 64-bit mobo, new 30GB IDE HD (hey, it's linux, and I got network storage), new PCI sound card coz the onboard didn't have a MIDI port... the only thing the same is the graphics card... a modest nVIDIA GeForce MX4000 AGP.
18:33 Phu and by "new" I mean "recently acquired" as opposed to "brand new" ;)
18:33 Sgt_Lemming heh
18:34 Cprossu likes an gf4 mx4000?
18:34 Cprossu *yikes
18:34 Cprossu can't type properly today
18:34 Phu any recommendations for decent audio players in linux that aren't Audacious ?
18:34 Sgt_Lemming but was it having HDD errors and then stopped?
18:34 Phu Sgt_Lemming:  yeah... farked HD.
18:34 InteliWasp xmms
18:34 Phu InteliWasp: yeah... if you got Ubuntu 11.10 install instructions for it ;)
18:34 Cprossu hell, I use mplayer as a audio player a lot of the time
18:34 dbshortwave im still dealing with a half dead h/d
18:35 dbshortwave it hasnt BSOD's in a while
18:35 dbshortwave but i think its a toss up between 2 drives
18:35 InteliWasp "sudo apt-get install xmms" i think, also vlc is a great alternative as well
18:35 dbshortwave well
18:35 dbshortwave drive
18:35 dbshortwave and controler
18:35 InteliWasp oh and i found a cool project for door control and temp recording
18:35 Phu InteliWasp:  nope. xmms is no longer in the repository because it hasn't bene developed in over 5 years, and it depends on GTK1.2, which is outdated so much that installing it would fark a system.
18:36 InteliWasp Phu: :(
18:36 tonsofpcs oh, wow, giant table of sound absorption coefficients!
18:36 InteliWasp Phu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMMS2
18:36 BotSteve Title: XMMS2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:37 InteliWasp i forgot about the next version
18:37 * Phu apt-cache searches
18:37 tonsofpcs ranging from brick, unglazed (different entry for painted and not) to "Parallel glass-fiberboard panels, 1 inch thick by 18 inches deep, spaced 6 1/2 inches apart, suspended 12 inches below ceiling" to "Water surface (swimming pool)"
18:38 InteliWasp has anyone been following the raspberry pi project?
18:38 tonsofpcs and there's the answer to the question I proposed earlier:  "Persons, adult"
18:38 dr_jkl OOOH OOOOH OOOOH OOOH OOH
18:38 dr_jkl http://insidetv.ew.com/2012/01/05/star-trek-tng-hd-exclusive-video/
18:38 BotSteve Title: 'Star Trek: The Next Generation' gets high-def makeover -- EXCLUSIVE VIDEO | Inside TV | EW.com
18:38 dr_jkl OOOH OOOH OOOH OOOH OOOH OOH
18:39 Phu ah.. xmms2 is indeed available. this is good. XMMS rocked.... even back when it was X11Amp.
18:39 tonsofpcs dr_jkl: that's going to take a while...
18:39 Phu InteliWasp:  Ya, I asked Chris if TGG had any interest in the PI, got no answer ;(
18:40 InteliWasp it would seem like a good fit too cheap and simple(since it has ethernet)
18:40 yNos so has everyone heard the bad news about Akira?
18:41 astro73|alice is it actually bad?
18:41 BotSteve wannabe1987: go get ready
18:42 yNos i heard someone is trying to save it..
18:42 yNos http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Jonathan-Nolan-Could-Rescue-Akira-Remake-28711.html
18:42 BotSteve Title: Jonathan Nolan Could Rescue The Akira Remake - CinemaBlend.com
18:42 astro73|alice last i heard, it wasn't officially shelved, but it is on hold while they work on the writing.
18:43 Sgt_Lemming yNos, Equinoxe, familiar with it? the album I mean
18:43 yNos Sgt_Lemming: Jean Michel Jarre?
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18:43 Sgt_Lemming jah
18:44 yNos nope
18:44 yNos just googled it
18:44 Sgt_Lemming bah, fail
18:44 Sgt_Lemming you should listen to it
18:44 Sgt_Lemming tis awesome
18:44 wannabe1987 i knew that would happen.  stupid computer.  i didn't move it.  at all
18:45 astro73|alice wannabe1987: BotSteve told you to get ready
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18:45 tonsofpcs next book...
18:45 Leepod Hey
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18:46 wannabe1987 i know....
18:46 wannabe1987 thats why i  knew the internet connection would go down, b/c i put something important up :P
18:47 astro73|alice lol
18:47 astro73|alice nice
18:47 wannabe1987 its like....psychic or something (grrr)
18:47 astro73|alice you should buy murphey dinner or something
18:47 CaptainNiobe murphy's law: whatever can go wrong will go wrong :P
18:47 Leepod Hi wannabe
18:47 wannabe1987 yes, thanks
18:47 wannabe1987 hi lee....you done wit school?
18:47 wannabe1987 i have to go to work...i won't be back till 10ish :/
18:48 dbshortwave no doubt there CaptainNiobe
18:48 CaptainNiobe :)
18:48 Leepod Yeah I'm still in school
18:48 dbshortwave i need some meds stiff neck is killing me
18:48 wannabe1987 pm
18:50 tonsofpcs 90dB SPL @ 1k is > 85 phons, it's roughly equivilant at 20 Hz and 100 Phons @ 5k.... 80phons at ~10k
18:50 wannabe-afk i gotta go
18:50 wannabe-afk be back after 10 :(
18:50 tonsofpcs cya
18:50 CaptainNiobe later wannabe, have a good day :)
18:50 wannabe-afk sleep well, niobe.
18:51 BotSteve wannabe1987: LEAVE
18:51 wannabe-afk OK BOTSTEVE
18:51 Leepod I'm bored I gtg later
18:51 astro73|alice thanks, BotSteve
18:51 BotSteve You're welcome, astro73|alice
18:56 tonsofpcs looks like I should target -24 LKFS to be 75dB SPL (A-weighted) @ listening distance, with speakers measured on a C-weighted curve... *pulls up A/85*
19:00 tonsofpcs K weights LF more than A, seems like it follows D...
19:02 astro73|alice that is officially the most opaque thing i've ever heard.
19:02 tonsofpcs so I need to subtract 10 dB....
19:03 tonsofpcs so 65 + 24 + 10 = listening position speaker output capability
19:03 tonsofpcs 100 dB.
19:05 tonsofpcs 114 dB @ 1m gets me 100 dB at the closest someone will be @ max level and 'worst' freq.  speakers I'm looking at will get 113 dB there (peak, 110 sustained) and >100 at furthest point in the room (peak, 97 sustained), but you add 3 dB for an additional speaker and account for mono, double the speakers and we're very easily over 100dB everywhere :D
19:06 astro73|alice boom?
19:06 Av_Nekoroms over 100db at any seat is too much
19:08 Av_Nekoroms one can be at 100db for 2 hours and not damage hearing
19:09 tonsofpcs oh, hmm, K curve only has a 4 dB gain where D has a 10dB
19:09 Av_Nekoroms 110 its only like 50 minutes
19:09 tonsofpcs Av_Nekoroms: 100dB peak allowed.  Dialog level is 24 dB below peak, making it 85 at the high end of the K curve, 81 at the low.  I don't intend on running them that hot at all, just having the capability to without breaking the speaker.  I'd likely hard limit them at 65 + 24 + 4 = 93dB
19:10 tonsofpcs so 114 is the wrong number.
19:10 tonsofpcs 107dB at the speaker makes it 93 dB at the floor... but people aren't at the floor, they're 2m up... *maths*
19:10 Av_Nekoroms do you get enough coverage withou getting more speakers
19:11 astro73|alice 2m seems kinda high for people
19:11 Av_Nekoroms if its enough at the far corner then you are all set and ready
19:11 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: 1m is kinda low.
19:11 tonsofpcs without accounting for audience absorption yet, I appear to.
19:12 tonsofpcs because of the spread of the speakers I'm looking at, the far corner is actually easier to reach than the far center ;)
19:12 Av_Nekoroms heh
19:12 tonsofpcs (also, the back end of the room isn't square.... well, the room is but the permanent set backdrop prevents its use)
19:14 Av_Nekoroms if its not so precise then i think you are okay withou delay speakers
19:14 tonsofpcs 103dB @ 1m = 93.5 dB @ 3m
19:14 tonsofpcs now, remember that 'normal' sounds are going to be 28dB below these levels...
19:14 Av_Nekoroms room ist that huge
19:14 tonsofpcs rear wall house center is at 76dB
19:14 * yNos wants to cuddle up and take a nap under his desk...
19:15 tonsofpcs no, reference level is -24dB FS
19:15 Av_Nekoroms 76 is kinda low
19:15 tonsofpcs well, add the 3dB for mono reinforcement
19:15 * BitViper likes yNos's idea, but doesnt have anyone to cuddle with
19:15 Av_Nekoroms but it could be well enough
19:15 yNos BitViper: me neither...
19:16 tonsofpcs 76 dB is in the sweet spot, unfortunately they won't get 76dB normally -- they'll get 52(+3)
19:16 Av_Nekoroms i have
19:16 Av_Nekoroms but she is playing skyrim..so no
19:16 tonsofpcs lol
19:16 yNos there are a few i'd like to...
19:16 yNos but i prefer not to mix business and pleasure..
19:16 yNos can make for awkward
19:17 Av_Nekoroms dont tell that to people at california
19:17 Sgt_Lemming can also make for firing if things go really bad
19:17 yNos yup
19:17 Cprossu yNos what's up
19:18 yNos not a whole lot
19:18 Av_Nekoroms dang onscreen keyboard
19:18 yNos you?
19:18 tonsofpcs so if I add another set of speakers at 1/2 the distance to the rear... *maths*
19:18 Av_Nekoroms tonsofpcs: it would be much better
19:18 tonsofpcs 83dB+76dB ~= 83dB (plus a hair)....
19:19 tonsofpcs listening level becomes 60dB SPL
19:19 tonsofpcs I also end up taking those people in the center of the room that had 83dB, adding 93.and.change dB, giving them... well, 94dB, listening level 70dB SPL
19:22 tonsofpcs that seems fine (and again, that's at 103dB out @ 1m, we could crank them to 124 dB @ 1m sustained, 127 @ 1m peak... leaving us at 76dB listening in the rear center with just two speakers
19:22 tonsofpcs (83 in the middle of the room, 90 up front and center where people won't be seated anyway)
19:23 tonsofpcs so I think I like these SRM 450s for this application
19:23 tonsofpcs I might have to turn them sideways to mount for optimum 'beam' spread though
19:23 tonsofpcs (pattern on right hand side of http://www.mackie.com/products/srm450v2/ )
19:23 BotSteve Title: Mackie - SRM450v2
19:23 Av_Nekoroms so the hor is what 90x60
19:23 Sgt_Lemming 5400
19:24 Av_Nekoroms beam would be kinda narrow
19:24 tonsofpcs hmm? it's 90-degrees wide, 45 degrees tall if I place them horizontal.
19:24 Cprossu as for yNos just looking over the minecraft lab
19:24 Cprossu *as for me, ynos
19:25 tonsofpcs erm, wait a minute, reverse that
19:25 Sgt_Lemming Cprossu, you involved with the planning of the boxee system much?
19:25 tonsofpcs 45 wide 90 tall
19:25 tonsofpcs it's 45 tall 90 wide 'standing'
19:25 Cprossu nope
19:25 Sgt_Lemming kk
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19:25 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: boxee system?
19:25 Av_Nekoroms i was thinking it woulbe 90 wide and 45 vertical
19:26 Av_Nekoroms as are speakers usually
19:26 tonsofpcs right, that's how it is when it stands.  When you turn it sideways, it's the other way ;)
19:28 Av_Nekoroms ye and 45 horizontal is kinda narrow when you tip em sideways
19:28 Av_Nekoroms if one cannot rotate the horn
19:29 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, the security system they are working on in the lab
19:31 tonsofpcs Av_Nekoroms: well, I can rotate the whole thing.  we have a 14' high grid (4' squares), so I can mount the rigging at different angles to turn it.
19:33 yNos Cprossu: have you gotten your serial cable yet?
19:33 Cprossu nope
19:33 Cprossu MIA.
19:33 yNos i assume it is sitting on Jeff or Moose's desk atm...
19:35 yNos ever use Gawor_LDAP_Browser?
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19:35 Cprossu nope
19:36 yNos would recommend it, it works well
19:36 Cprossu anything has to work better than the stock utils
19:36 yNos even though it is java
19:36 yNos stock windows ldap stuff sucks.
19:36 Cprossu you could tell me that it was built out of poo
19:36 Cprossu and I would proably think it'd work better
19:36 Sgt_Lemming <yNos> stock windows stuff sucks. <--- fixed for great truth
19:37 astro73|alice i approve of this edit
19:39 Seroster Where is a good 90degree angle when you need one?
19:39 Seroster ARGH
19:39 * Seroster goes to bend something
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19:41 * yNos thinks Seroster  bent ponko's internets
19:43 Electricguy i want my new (second hand) camera now!
19:45 Cprossu it happens yNos
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19:45 Cprossu there was a cocks...errr cox tech fooling around with stuff in my neighborhood this morning
19:45 Cprossu my snr and power levels have been screwed since then
19:45 yNos fun
19:46 yNos have you called and been a pita yet?
19:46 yNos or is it not effecting your internet/tv?
19:46 Cprossu yeah but I am debating about how _not_ to get charged a service fee
19:47 yNos gluck
19:47 astro73|alice have them waive it
19:47 Cprossu it's still well within specs
19:47 astro73|alice or claim they made it worse?
19:47 Cprossu but I know better
19:48 yNos if it isnt impacting your service, why worry?
19:48 Cprossu http://oi40.tinypic.com/10dskmf.jpg
19:48 Cprossu it seems to be T3 timeouting
19:48 Cprossu since then
19:48 Cprossu and you can clearly see when that happened.
19:48 tonsofpcs Cprossu: good luck with that.
19:49 tonsofpcs I just hope Cox is better than TWC about fixing it
19:49 tonsofpcs Cprossu: I have a modem logging tool that I used to show the techs the chart of outages
19:49 Cprossu my snr's have to be below 27 before they will admit there's a problem
19:49 Cprossu tonsofpcs did you ever get that sorted?
19:49 tonsofpcs Cprossu: yes.  Kinda.
19:50 Cprossu switched isp's?
19:50 tonsofpcs there is no other ISP
19:50 Cprossu that's sad
19:50 tonsofpcs tech replaced everything inside and out, shortened all the whips, got it within tolerance so it works.
19:50 tonsofpcs but the day he did that, it was working better earlier in the morning
19:51 Cprossu you know come to look at it
19:51 tonsofpcs and he was supposed to show up with his supervisor the week before but didn't (well, they say that they were there the next day and proded the signal outside) so I'm guessing they fixed it up the road
19:51 Cprossu looks like I've got other issues
19:51 tonsofpcs like, the tech showed up at whatever time and told me he had stopped by early morning to take a reading outside and the numbers he got then matched what I got then, so it was fixed between then and when he returned for the service call
19:52 tonsofpcs Cprossu: got an analog TV set?
19:52 Cprossu looks like I have more to worry about than just that
19:52 Cprossu http://oi44.tinypic.com/xbfq5g.jpg
19:52 Cprossu yeah tonsofpcs my 100's are still ok
19:52 tonsofpcs why? a fraction of a dB change in SNR?
19:52 tonsofpcs your 100s?
19:52 Cprossu as in channels in the 100's don't static out
19:52 tonsofpcs tune to a station on the cable system that a local channel actually broadcasts on.
19:53 Cprossu that's been a tactic I use to get them to come out
19:53 Cprossu without a service charge
19:53 tonsofpcs with an analog tuner.
19:53 tonsofpcs TWC has never charged me a service charge -- except to remove the trap to turn on my service... which they had placed within an hour of when I ordered service.
19:54 Cprossu our cable company uh...
19:54 Cprossu well they charge you a monthy fee
19:54 Cprossu to avoid service charges
19:55 Cprossu *monthly
19:55 Cprossu which would be good and all if the damn thing wasn't $15/month
19:56 Cprossu the weird thing is they are responsible for all the wiring that's 'outside' the house
19:56 Cprossu and due to them running all the wire 'inside' the house
19:56 Cprossu and the runs not having jacks just straight cabling
19:56 Cprossu our 'inside cabling' is effectively 'outside cabling'
19:56 tonsofpcs they'll work on cabling inside homes here
19:57 tonsofpcs I've never seen a cable company do that before without it being billed as an additional service
19:57 tonsofpcs but apparently it has to do with the incumbant cable companies that they bought
19:57 * tonsofpcs goes to look at how to rig up a mackie speaker
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20:17 * yNos is trying to get a steampunk/rockabilly girl to show up at tgg..
20:18 yNos from work here
20:18 yNos methinks she'd like it.. this is a hard place to explain...
20:18 yNos what is it?
20:18 yNos what do you want it to be?
20:19 reesk92 i dont get it everyone ends in lots off joke flags like ussr and east germany but why hasnt anyone sent in the confederate flag yet
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20:20 MoxieMike_ i sent in another pirate flag
20:20 MoxieMike_ a different pirate flag
20:24 BitViper nom nom nom nom, nice big fliet of salmon, coated with my own mix and butter-fried
20:24 Cprossu yeah it is hard to explain
20:24 Cprossu hey BitViper
20:25 * BitViper hides his fish from Cprossu
20:25 * Cprossu logs out of minecraft he doesn't want to look at it anymore
20:26 BitViper lol
20:28 yNos BotSteve: tell toastdude check these, there might be some stuff that catches your attention. this is old enough that the headphones they are talking about are crystal/piezo/"hi-z"
20:28 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when Toastdude is around.
20:28 yNos BotSteve: tell toastdude http://www.noniandjim.com/Jim/RadioProjects/UsingElectronics/UsingElectronics.html
20:28 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when Toastdude is around.
20:28 Coderjoe ...
20:28 BotSteve Title: Using Electronics
20:28 Coderjoe weird..
20:28 Coderjoe http://www.sears.com/shc/s/search_10153_12605?keyword=HD+SDI&amp;i_cntr=1326140905953
20:29 BotSteve Title: Sears: Online department store featuring appliances, tools, fitness equipment and more
20:29 Coderjoe sears carries HD SDI switchers and stuff
20:29 yNos time to go home
20:29 yNos later all
20:30 Cprossu later yNos
20:32 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: what?
20:32 tonsofpcs *clicks*
20:32 tonsofpcs oh, no they don't.
20:32 tonsofpcs those are "Sears Marketplace" (Think amazon third party sales) items.
20:32 Coderjoe oh.
20:32 Coderjoe yeah. missed that
20:33 Coderjoe stupid concept, imo
20:33 tonsofpcs brand dillution and handing your brand over to third parties without your control... yea.
20:34 tonsofpcs that said, you apparently can't buy a house from sears anymore.
20:34 Sgt_Lemming sigh, fucking cockatoos
20:34 Sgt_Lemming god they are noisy
20:34 Sgt_Lemming and it's not a nice noisy either
20:45 * CaptainNiobe watches tumbleweed bounce by
20:46 tonsofpcs any suggestions for a HT receiver that does the normal HT receiver stuff (convert and scale analog inputs to HDMI, decode AC3 and DTS, downmix to stereo, audio/video sync delay) but has balanced line outs for audio [instead of or in addition to powered speaker outs]?
20:46 CaptainNiobe no idea... :-\
20:47 Sgt_Lemming good luck on that one tonsofpcs
20:47 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: I know the Yamahas have unbalanced line outs
20:47 tonsofpcs and I might succomb to them
20:48 Sgt_Lemming HT as the name implies is Home Theater, and most home users don't need balanced outputs
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20:49 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: yea, I figured I'd get one targeting those crazies at least
20:50 Sgt_Lemming lol, no
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20:50 tonsofpcs also, I know some of the 60s-70s era RCA-outputted stereo systems were actually a balanced signal on an RCA, not sure if anyone was doing that again
20:50 tonsofpcs I'm ok with unbalanced if needed, I just definitely need line level
20:50 Sgt_Lemming the crazies, are crazy, not insane, they do stupid things, not ridiculous things :-P
20:50 iSasha sndwrx... I'm back ;)
20:50 BotSteve isasha: I have the following messages for you:
20:50 BotSteve At 01:53Z, egrsteve asked me to tell isasha That is better question for Ynos to explain, but you have to bridge the networks so they act as one. yNos will be able to explain the process better
20:51 Coderjoe good luck with the line-level decoded outputs... i think those are going to be in fairly short supply because of the feared analog hole
20:51 iSasha Thanks BotSteve!
20:51 BotSteve No problem, iSasha
20:51 iSasha .seen yNos
20:51 BotSteve iSasha: I last saw yNos 0.37 hours ago at 2012-01-09 20:29:46 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 20:51:48 UTC
20:51 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: oh, becuase someone couldn't just attenuate speaker-level? bah.
20:52 Coderjoe yeah. silly fears.
20:52 tonsofpcs I'll pick off the primaries of the transformers if it comes to taht :-p
20:52 Coderjoe like someone isn't already decrypting the data and using other tools in the digial realm
20:52 Sgt_Lemming Coderjoe, they are still fairly common from what I have seen
20:52 tonsofpcs why do you need to decrypt it when it's leaked before encryption?
20:53 Sgt_Lemming they are more worried about people doing digital copies than analog
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20:53 iSasha Botsteve: tell yNos that he would like to know how to bridge networks, load balance them and then output them as a single network (taking multiple wireless networks and making it into a single wired network)
20:53 BotSteve iSasha: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
20:54 tonsofpcs iSasha: do you control both endpoints?
20:54 iSasha Botsteve: tell yNos that egrsteve sent me to you, and I would be very greatful if you could help
20:54 BotSteve iSasha: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
20:54 BitViper West coast nerd lab location ? : http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2012/01/for-sale-nuclear-bomb-proof-space-station-in-carmel-valley.html
20:54 BotSteve Title: For sale: Nuclear bomb-proof space station in Carmel Valley - latimes.com
20:54 iSasha tonsofpcs yes
20:54 tonsofpcs oh, and honestly, the "Zone 2" type stereo downmix output would work fine, so long as it is delayed to match.
20:55 tonsofpcs iSasha: you can trunk them, but why not just move to a better wireless technology?
20:55 iSasha That is what I am going to do eventually
20:56 tonsofpcs it's probably cheaper.
20:57 iSasha I will do it once I link the other ones... just need a single wired netwok
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20:58 roadran422 Hi all!
20:58 BotSteve roadran422: I have the following messages for you:
20:58 BotSteve At 12:57Z, yNos asked me to tell roadran422 Fo Sho, 'perently is abt 6ft tall!
20:58 roadran422 yNos you on?
20:59 roadran422 botsteve: tell yNos, what? I don't get.... What do you mean by " roadran422 Fo Sho, 'perently is abt 6ft tall!"? xD
20:59 BotSteve roadran422: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
20:59 roadran422 .log
20:59 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
21:00 roadran422 Oh I get it! botsteve: tell yNos I get it now, it's true xD it's huge!
21:00 roadran422 botsteve: tell yNos I get it now, it's true xD it's huge!
21:00 BotSteve roadran422: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
21:04 NeWtoz 404pm
21:04 * Electricguy listens to the GGR
21:10 roadran422 Wow, it's quiet!
21:11 reesk92 that makes no freaking sense how the hell can photonicinduction say tgg is copying him i just watched one of his vids hes a freaking moron with science hes like hehehehe i have a capacitor lets fumk about with it
21:12 roadran422 reesk92: If you want to talk about photon bring it over to #tgg:controversial please
21:13 Hackbat very heart warming => http://www.geekosystem.com/video-game-argument/
21:13 BotSteve Title: Older Brother Sticks Up For Brother's Girl Game Choices | Geekosystem
21:17 tonsofpcs so this pile of yamahas appear to mostly work, I just need to check if they can do audio delay and I need to find a VGA > HDMI bridge
21:19 NeWtoz I read lamas there
21:19 NeWtoz and was very confused
21:19 iSasha Speaking of VGA>HDMI stuff, I went to the biggest electronics store in my country, and they told me such things don't exist. I then asked if they had VGA>RCA ones. They said no. I then asked if they had any Ethernet>USB one. They said no. I left the store humiliated that I would go in a place that doesn't know crap about what they're selling.
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21:21 tonsofpcs iSasha: sounds like Radio Shack
21:22 tonsofpcs their latest motto (modified to fit reality):  You've got questions?  We've got cellphones!
21:23 tonsofpcs what do you think of http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16882120181 ?
21:23 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - ONKYO TX-NR809 7.2-Channel 3D Network A/V Receiver
21:23 tonsofpcs (receiver)
21:24 NeWtoz I think it puts mine to shame
21:24 NeWtoz but mine is old
21:25 NeWtoz good old analog
21:28 iSasha tonsofpcs... The best parts is that the shop is called interdiscount
21:30 JA12 blah my lousy computer slowly renders a video file with its pathetic single core cpu
21:36 Ponko THIERRY HENRY YOU BEAUTY
21:36 Ponko omg
21:37 JA12 I have overkill hw for the os but I'd like some current generation hw for 3D modeling/rendering and video editing
21:38 Ponko what's your specs
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21:45 JA12 athlon xp 2800+/1,5GB/GF 6600
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21:46 JA12 ubuntu linux
21:48 JA12 I have a laptop which has Pentium 3 @933MHz, 1GB ram, Intel 82830 integrated GPU, Hitachi Travelstar 5k80 40GB 5400rpm with latest LTS version of ubuntu
21:48 JA12 boots in 35 seconds
21:49 JA12 and it's enough for light work, like web browsing and office
21:49 JA12 gpu is total crap though, can't even enable desktop effects
21:52 Electricguy 32MB GPU RAM? :P
21:53 JA12 idk. something like that
21:54 Electricguy hehe
21:54 JA12 funny thing is, that laptop is an ultraportable =)
21:54 iSasha Damn... I was going to build a PC with 16GB ram... and 2Gb GPU ram... but I never did.
21:54 JA12 dell x200
21:54 Electricguy hehe nic
21:54 Electricguy e
21:54 Electricguy ultraportables are fun :)
21:55 Electricguy portables are fun in general :)
21:55 Electricguy if they aren't shitty as fuck :P
21:56 JA12 yeah, nowadays even slowest netbooks have much more power than that
21:56 Electricguy lol :P
21:56 Electricguy i gotta check what res. my netbook can do
21:57 reesk92 is there a link to tthe tgg boxee project cause they keep mentioning it and i wanna take a look at what it is cause im confused
21:57 Electricguy 2048x1536.. XD
21:57 iSasha Yeah, I got an ultraportable... it's pretty good and beats the crap out of my current computer!
21:58 Electricguy pretty good max res. for a cheap ass netbook :)
21:58 JA12 reesk92: there was a thread about it in the forums. idk if it got ported to the new forum sw though...
21:58 iSasha What's the screen res though?
21:59 Electricguy 1024x600. but that higher value is obviously for an external screen
21:59 JA12 reesk92: and it's not boxee. it's "böksy" or something stupid like that
22:00 Electricguy however, i can expand the desktop to be 2048x1536. but then i have to drag it around on the screen
22:02 JA12 that dell must have cost something ridicilous back in the day. thousands or... billions
22:02 iSasha Electricguy is it a 13" ?
22:02 JA12 I bought it for 5 euros =)
22:03 Electricguy 11 something i think
22:03 Electricguy 11.1 if i remember correctly
22:03 Electricguy or 11.2
22:05 iSasha Damn. Then I can't compare my 1600x1444 one :P
22:06 Electricguy :)
22:06 Electricguy 1600x1444? pfft! old crap!
22:06 Electricguy ;P
22:07 Phu if I understand an old "Aventures with Duck" video, it's spelt "BCoSy", Building COntrol SYstem....
22:08 SparkyProjects Phu: That's how i understand it too, and was a bit of a play on 'boxxy' from yt
22:09 SparkyProjects actually, matbe more likke 'BOCSY'
22:10 Ponko SparkyProjects: the extravagant female?
22:10 Phu well I took it to be one of those reverse-pronunciation things... like "RohS" is pronounced "Rosh"
22:10 Ponko adi i love you lol
22:10 Phu since Chris explicitly referred to it as the "Building Control System" and was pointing to the big blue thing that now stands in lobby/cafe area and has recentlly been called "boxy".
22:11 SparkyProjects http://thegeekgroup.org/forums/topic/bocsy-power-monitoring/
22:11 BotSteve Title: Topic: Bocsy power monitoring | The Geek Group
22:11 Phu note to self: I cannot drag my mouse pointer from one machine to another
22:12 Ponko tbh though SparkyProjects i doubt Boxxy got her name from that
22:12 Seroster Hm
22:12 Seroster dr_jkl,
22:13 SparkyProjects I believe Chris was/is a fan of Boxxy :P
22:13 Seroster I cant get that damn picture shit sorted out. I'm too old for this shit. Any possibility I can bribe you to? ;P
22:13 Ponko lol she's soo hilarious
22:15 SparkyProjects Sooster, what are you trying to do ?
22:15 Seroster I'm trying to get a profile picture in the forums
22:15 SparkyProjects *typo :P
22:15 Seroster And I dont sort that shit out xD
22:17 iSasha Electricguy 1600x1444 monitor on the ultraportable... afaik I can connect up to 8 monitors
22:17 SparkyProjects Seroster, you need to go to Gravatar, log in, and add another pic,  be sure to set age preference (whatever it's called), then select the new pic as your avatar, any site using Gravatar and the same email will display your current pic.
22:17 SparkyProjects If i can do it' so can you :P
22:17 Seroster Yeah. Gravatar. No.
22:18 Ponko like that name
22:18 Ponko Gravatar
22:19 Seroster BotSteve: tell dr_jkl I got a suggestion for the site, a tiny box where I put an URL and the picture on that URL will be my profile picture. Like... All the other forums in the world. Being unique is a big thing for me too, but... Yeah. I'm too old for gravatar.
22:19 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when dr_jkl is around.
22:20 Phu I can see that not being implemented :P
22:22 Ponko lol you too?
22:23 iSasha Yo guys, which battery do you think is the best all-round lithium-ion in terms of value?
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22:29 tonsofpcs all-around? Like the Xpal things?
22:31 iSasha Like everything from LEDs to wireless explosive triggers I MEAN wireless led lights :P
22:33 dr_jkl Seroster: what shit
22:33 BotSteve dr_jkl: I have the following messages for you:
22:33 BotSteve At 22:19Z, Seroster asked me to tell dr_jkl I got a suggestion for the site, a tiny box where I put an URL and the picture on that URL will be my profile picture. Like... All the other forums in the world. Being unique is a big thing for me too, but... Yeah. I'm too old for gravatar.
22:33 dr_jkl Seroster: e-mail me your e-mail address and picture, and i'll set you up a fucking gravitar
22:33 dr_jkl :)
22:33 Seroster Penis.
22:34 dr_jkl You can include pictures of any you like, too.
22:34 Ponko lol
22:34 Ponko as he said
22:34 Ponko Penis
22:34 Ponko lol
22:35 iSasha Hey, you know, I have a really cool email address
22:35 iSasha It supports Pen Island... I hear they have great pens!
22:35 iSasha PenIsland@hotmail.**
22:35 Ponko yeah
22:36 Ponko foutain or ball point
22:36 roadran422 So...
22:36 roadran422 Tostitos are good!
22:36 Ponko aren't the like doritos
22:37 roadran422 no...
22:37 Ponko or am i thinking of something completly different
22:37 Ponko ah
22:37 roadran422 Tostitos, salsa chips?
22:37 roadran422 Corn chips....
22:37 Ponko yeah Doritos are salsa chips
22:37 roadran422 No?
22:37 Ponko yes
22:37 roadran422 They are?
22:38 Ponko yep
22:38 roadran422 Tostitos, are the only one I thought. They are to be used with salsa. Doritos are mostly all flavored.... The only flavor for tostitos are corn?
22:39 roadran422 http://gra2173loremipsums.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/tostitos_logo1.jpg
22:39 Ponko well Doritos are used with dips
22:40 roadran422 I didn't know that.. But the one I'm talking about are tostitos corn chips.
22:40 Ponko yeah i know
22:40 Seroster Hey dr_jkl, how do I email you my email adress without your email? (PM)
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22:40 Seroster Btw, I did set up a gravatar, but I used another mail, for sites I dont trust
22:41 Seroster And. Yeah. Shit went downhill from there.
22:41 dr_jkl jkl  at tgg
22:41 Seroster Can you check what adress is tied to my account? I kinda forgot
22:41 SparkyProjects Seroster, just make another Gmail account, i have several :P
22:41 Ponko yes netflix for PS3
22:41 dr_jkl Seroster: what's your forum username
22:41 Seroster Lol
22:41 CaptainNiobe i have more than one gmail addy too...
22:42 Ponko i have the same email address
22:42 SparkyProjects I think i have about 8 :D
22:42 Seroster I just have two. One that I mail with and one that collects spam
22:43 yNos ajprog_laptop: you 'round?
22:43 BotSteve ynos: I have the following messages for you:
22:43 BotSteve At 20:53Z, iSasha asked me to tell ynos that he would like to know how to bridge networks, load balance them and then output them as a single network (taking multiple wireless networks and making it into a single wired network)
22:44 dr_jkl yNos: 'lo
22:44 yNos Hey there
22:44 yNos how are things down in america's wang?
22:44 Ponko lol
22:44 ajprog_laptop yep
22:45 Ponko americas wang
22:45 Ponko Florida :P
22:45 yNos ajprog_laptop: can you put a monitor up there on the blucherry system?
22:45 yNos off the bluecherry card that is.
22:45 roadran422 What about florida!
22:46 roadran422 yNos! xD big forhead xD
22:46 yNos yup
22:46 dr_jkl yNos: breezy and cool.
22:46 yNos you saw my fb post?
22:46 yNos roadran422: ^
22:46 roadran422 What post? xD
22:46 roadran422 Chris was dissing florida... Florida flag smells like old people and the flag is made out of recycle bikinis :P
22:46 dr_jkl yeah well
22:46 roadran422 I live in fl :P
22:47 CaptainNiobe so does masterofmonks, roadran... so behave... :P
22:47 ajprog_laptop yNos: done
22:47 roadran422 What...? xD
22:47 masterofmonks Yes I do.
22:48 * masterofmonks grabs CaptainNiobe and drags her back to PM
22:48 roadran422 Oh... I live in bradenton, manatee county you?
22:48 * CaptainNiobe is dragged back to pm (without much complaint)
22:48 masterofmonks Open your eyes , you will see.
22:48 roadran422 ....
22:48 Ponko roadran you in LA?
22:49 * dr_jkl peers at niobe and monks o.o
22:49 roadran422 No? I used to be in there xd
22:49 roadran422 dr_jkl: Good idea xD
22:49 Ponko ok where you at now
22:49 * masterofmonks draws the shades.
22:49 * CaptainNiobe hides under the bed from dr_jkl
22:49 roadran422 Bradenton, Florida. Ponko, you know where westminster is? I live near there lol
22:49 roadran422 Or in canoga park....
22:49 Ponko ah ok
22:49 dr_jkl oh, that's why bradenton rings a bell
22:49 dr_jkl it's all the fuck way over there
22:49 Ponko well i know where Westminster is
22:50 roadran422 Ponko ok lol
22:50 roadran422 dr_jkl: What do you mean?
22:50 Ponko but it's in London
22:50 dr_jkl you're ON THE WRONG COAST OF FLORIDA
22:50 CaptainNiobe different westminster i thinnk, ponko :P
22:50 roadran422 Why? xD
22:50 * dr_jkl is in fort lauderdale
22:50 roadran422 Oh hahahaha was to fort myers yesterday
22:50 roadran422 I've been to fort lauderdale once
22:50 dr_jkl that's a bit of a trek
22:50 roadran422 Took for ever to get there
22:51 dr_jkl i do it at night
22:51 roadran422 Ok...
22:51 dr_jkl you can pull a buck-ten on alligator alley
22:51 dr_jkl at night
22:51 roadran422 lol
22:51 dr_jkl and nobody gives a fuck
22:51 roadran422 I've been to miami, orlando, bradenton, fort lauderdale, fort myers, st pete
22:52 roadran422 And what ever cities it takes to get from bradenton to atlanta and houston texas
22:54 roadran422 ...
22:55 roadran422 Did I kill the chat? xD
22:56 masterofmonks No.
22:56 masterofmonks Your spatula is not wide enough for the pancake that is the chat.
22:56 roadran422 xD
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22:57 roadran422 Ponko and Ponko1?
22:57 * CaptainNiobe listens to cprossu and eadthem talk computers on teamspeak
22:57 roadran422 ok....
22:58 dr_jkl PENISES
22:58 roadran422 dr_jkl: only on the nsfw channel :P
22:58 CaptainNiobe nsfw? lol
22:59 roadran422 ....
22:59 roadran422 :P
22:59 roadran422 Florida is a nice place, but boring for vietnamese shopping and food.
22:59 roadran422 LA was the best place ever?
22:59 roadran422 *ever!
23:01 roadran422 Lee sandwiched was beat also!
23:01 roadran422 ponko you with me on that? Lee sandwiches?
23:02 Ponko lee sandwiches?
23:02 Ponko wtf
23:02 roadran422 Yes!
23:02 roadran422 You don't know? :P
23:03 Electricguy erm, fellas... these pics show dead bug mods that Yamaha made at the factory http://ilektron-x.blogspot.com/2012/01/best-commercial-white-wire-hack-ive.html
23:03 BotSteve Title: Ilektronx: Best Commercial White Wire Hack I've Seen
23:03 Ponko nope
23:03 Electricguy looks lovely, huh? XD
23:03 roadran422 Phuoc Loc Tho? Any asian places Ponko
23:04 Phu Ah... first Farnell order of 2012 :) - Enough parts to build 6 projects, and 5 of them involve microcontrollers :)
23:04 Ponko nah not in Luton
23:04 roadran422 If you live in california and been to some asian places. You have to had sugar cane drinks!
23:05 roadran422 Wow. You aren't getting any places :P
23:06 roadran422 Ponko? At least you would have to know what sugar cane drinks are!
23:06 Ponko i don't sorry
23:07 roadran422 Sigh... Ever been to china town?
23:08 Electricguy bedtime! night all :)
23:08 Ponko in Soho yeah
23:08 Ponko ever been amsterdam roadran422
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23:14 roadran422 Nope
23:14 roadran422 I don't really remember where I've been...
23:14 Seroster Especially not when you are in amsterdam, eh?!
23:15 roadran422 I've been up to the mountains and saw snow for the first time.
23:15 Seroster Waitwhat
23:15 Seroster Where are you from?
23:15 roadran422 Me, Near woodland hills.
23:16 roadran422 Ponko whoops I meant woodland hills, born in keiser hospital! Sorry xD
23:16 Ponko lol ok
23:17 roadran422 You know where that is? xD
23:17 Ponko no
23:17 Ponko don't care tbh
23:17 roadran422 xD
23:17 roadran422 I love california!
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23:58 Hackbat what's a good price for a Zippo?
23:59 Experimentonomen 500 billion dollars ;)
23:59 Hackbat :\
23:59 Hackbat I'm serious
23:59 Hackbat like is 15 normal?

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