Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-01-11

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00:04 Cprossu I have a box of cat4 o_O
00:04 Cprossu weird shit.
00:04 Cprossu got the box of 1000ft of it for $5 though
00:05 ajcc shouldn't cat4 work for security cameras without remote control?
00:05 ajcc or audio
00:05 Cprossu I use it for other shit
00:05 Cprossu it's mine!
00:05 ajcc no wait, ehm, ignore that :)
00:06 ajcc saw that it was four pairs
00:06 Cprossu it's also the only cable I know of
00:06 MoxieMike_ ya, my second flag made it
00:06 Cprossu that has a clearish insulation
00:06 Cprossu it's weird stuff
00:06 Cprossu they were using it at a best buy for video cabling I think
00:06 Cprossu got it when they went out of business at a location nearby
00:06 ajcc did you grab it from the wall?
00:06 Cprossu also picked up a cisco 3600 for $50
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00:07 Cprossu no I mean where they had the camcorder test thing
00:07 Cprossu they used that cable there
00:07 ajcc k.
00:07 Cprossu they didn't even scratch the surface of the box
00:07 ajcc oh well, nighty night
00:07 Cprossu $5 for nearly 1000 ft is still good right? =P
00:08 MoxieMike_ i know the answer to the captain's blog trivia question...because i kinda made it
00:10 * Cprossu is going to leave this alone
00:10 Cprossu along with the inaccuracies with the cabling
00:11 * Cprossu skips the binary explanation
00:12 MoxieMike_ ?
00:15 tonsofpcs inaccuracies in cabling?
00:15 tonsofpcs also, blog trivia?
00:15 MoxieMike there's a flag that is the trivia question for the day
00:15 MoxieMike i sent it in
00:15 MoxieMike the flag that is
00:17 tonsofpcs anyone have a link to the blog?
00:17 MoxieMike http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stF7UrM9tVk&context=C3037112ADOEgsToPDskKTzt2eHW_C0rl-m2fzyuyE
00:17 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 1-9-12 Glass Installation, Phones, and Networking Basics in 10 minutes - YouTube
00:17 tonsofpcs danke
00:18 MoxieMike i'm watching it now
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00:21 tonsofpcs *fixes default audio device*
00:21 MoxieMike nice job
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00:22 tonsofpcs 'umm they stayed in k-zoo'
00:23 MoxieMike i thought that was funny
00:25 tonsofpcs also, wtfhy am i buffering?!?!?
00:26 tonsofpcs "I'm not worried about it.  It's been stolen before, I'll get it back"
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00:28 tonsofpcs I also found a major issue with netbooks....
00:28 Obtuse I have a video to share in #tgg_nsfw
00:29 tonsofpcs you mean #TGG:NSFW ?
00:29 Obtuse , oo changed eh?
00:29 masterofmonks Obtuse: Join the first see what happens.
00:29 Obtuse nothing was there
00:31 tonsofpcs he has it left-to-right backwards, idk abuot upside down
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00:32 Dibblah Awww yeah. https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-DVVPdJd8B14/TwzYQVEzxjI/AAAAAAAACew/Jwjq0SlGMzQ/s800/IMG_0614.JPG
00:32 Dibblah It smells of buuuurning in here!
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00:33 BotSteve TOASTY!
00:33 Dibblah https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kcPfIXKpQzA/TwzYVgtl08I/AAAAAAAACe8/lrrn4cuoqFY/s0/IMG_0615.JPG (Edges)
00:33 Toastdude Hi
00:33 BotSteve toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
00:33 BotSteve At 10 Jan 19:13Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell toastdude hi
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00:35 Toastdude .seen wannabe1987
00:35 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe1987 1.09 hours ago at 2012-01-10 23:29:37 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:35:11 UTC
00:37 roadran422 Yes!
00:37 roadran422 I think I converted a romeo and juliet speech in to modern english!
00:37 roadran422 Victory alast!
00:38 tonsofpcs I know what that is!
00:38 roadran422 ...?
00:39 roadran422 I think it sounds right? lol
00:39 tonsofpcs oh, he wants the history of it too......
00:39 roadran422 What?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!??!?
00:39 tonsofpcs captain's  blog
00:40 tonsofpcs IP Phones! I want some :D
00:40 roadran422 Ok...?
00:41 tonsofpcs > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stF7UrM9tVk&context=C3037112ADOEgsToPDskKTzt2eHW_C0rl-m2fzyuyE
00:41 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 1-9-12 Glass Installation, Phones, and Networking Basics in 10 minutes - YouTube
00:42 roadran422 I watched it xD
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00:46 roadran422 "Take all myself"
00:46 Cprossu hmmm
00:47 roadran422 ...
00:48 tonsofpcs tesla fires during glass install lol
00:48 roadran422 xD
00:49 roadran422 That would suck balls lol
00:49 tonsofpcs I was wondering what the truck horn was, then i realized it was the air horn for HV
00:51 Rahlon Any forum mods on?
00:54 * tonsofpcs has no clue who is a forum mod
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00:57 * tonsofpcs had a question for Cprossu and forgot it
00:57 tonsofpcs Nazca: you should identify before joining....
01:03 tonsofpcs Wait, Chris is excited about TAPE?!!!!!!!!!!
01:07 tonsofpcs ah, egrsteve|away found it!
01:09 tonsofpcs "Cat 4 is right out"
01:10 tonsofpcs there's cat3 inside the power box inside the office!
01:11 * tonsofpcs should send Chris a piece of 10GX32 Cat6a for analysis
01:14 egrsteve|away whay?
01:14 egrsteve|away *what?
01:14 tonsofpcs hi steve!
01:14 tonsofpcs what to which?
01:14 egrsteve|away egrsteve found it?
01:15 tonsofpcs a sony camera service manual
01:15 egrsteve|away yes
01:15 tonsofpcs (or CCU)
01:15 egrsteve|away still have not found one for the GVG 20 ten
01:15 egrsteve|away looked through all the boxes too
01:16 egrsteve|away I did find a decent siemans start
01:16 egrsteve|away *star
01:16 tonsofpcs nice
01:16 tonsofpcs there should be one in every camera manual btw
01:16 tonsofpcs and there's one on a t-shirt in the pile to my right
01:16 tonsofpcs I should order one of those to donate...  Medium or Large?
01:16 egrsteve|away it was in the lens manual
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01:17 egrsteve|away I found 2 one small one 8.5x11
01:17 tonsofpcs ah
01:17 tonsofpcs yea, 8.5x11 is pretty standard
01:18 tonsofpcs sometimes 9x12
01:18 tonsofpcs I have a bunch of fujinon 9x12s and a JVC 10x13ish
01:18 egrsteve|away nice
01:18 tonsofpcs I think I have the fujinon posted in the studio
01:19 tonsofpcs you should just integrate a bunch intto all of the sets
01:19 egrsteve|away that would be fun
01:19 egrsteve|away if we ever do a sign wall, I will get one in there
01:20 egrsteve|away Chris has a rather large sign collection
01:21 egrsteve|away and facebook just crashed by browser, again
01:23 egrsteve|away why did they have to take a decent product 4 years ago and turn it into a pile of slow, unstable crap
01:23 tonsofpcs 10bt is 10 Mbps not 10 MBps... *grr*
01:24 egrsteve|away indeed it is
01:24 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: because the advertisers wanted more space and more updates
01:24 egrsteve|away they need a facebook lite
01:24 tonsofpcs they had one
01:24 egrsteve|away I can't see the ads anyway
01:24 tonsofpcs lite.ffacebook.com
01:24 tonsofpcs s/ff/f/
01:25 egrsteve|away I have  a nice long null routing hosts file
01:25 masterofmonks egrsteve|away: ad-block plus?
01:25 egrsteve|away I hardly get any ads on any sites
01:25 masterofmonks What bugs me is what the hell is with firefox?
01:26 egrsteve|away ?
01:26 masterofmonks Every version it gets more bulk, and less useable.
01:26 Experimentonomen last time i used adblockers, i couldent even get on the sites, only got a "turn off all adblockers to view this site"
01:26 egrsteve|away natural degrigation of software
01:26 masterofmonks Experimentonomen: What sites?
01:27 tonsofpcs actually, you do say a thousand million if you're on a long scale system...
01:27 Experimentonomen any site that had an ad on it
01:27 egrsteve|away no issuse with that here
01:27 egrsteve|away *if i get a popup it will be a blank page
01:28 tonsofpcs also, chris is missing 10base2....
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01:28 egrsteve|away I know
01:28 tonsofpcs wait, there's another jeff?!
01:29 tonsofpcs figured out the buffering issue... HDD space low...
01:30 tonsofpcs I need to fix that...
01:30 tonsofpcs oh, also, egrsteve|away, I've never seen anyone coil a figure 8 in mid-air like that.  I am adopting this for so many odd things.
01:30 DruidicRifleman lwq
01:30 DruidicRifleman http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/403680_10150546729089276_57741164275_10674413_1444131769_n.jpg
01:32 egrsteve|away adopting what?
01:32 tonsofpcs the mid-air figure 8coiling method
01:34 egrsteve|away thats a std way to handle mic cables in the tech/theatre world
01:34 egrsteve|away although I have been told I have an odd technique
01:34 tonsofpcs I've NEVER seen anyone do that for anything larger than a wireless lav
01:35 egrsteve|away thats normal for me (and others for mic cables think 50ft quad)
01:35 egrsteve|away works greak for extension cords
01:35 tonsofpcs I've seen full turn arounds on the coil to make it unfold (as a figure 8 mid-air) or done a figure 8 then fold it in half, but never the half-hitch back and forth on one side
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01:36 egrsteve|away it works well
01:36 tonsofpcs like, I know a few guys that do the 180 on the coil to make a figure 8 on camera cable mid-air, but I've not seen someone put the half-hitch in like that
01:36 tonsofpcs which I guess isn't really a figure 8 but a stack of inverted figure 8s
01:36 egrsteve|away now I strugle with the fig 8 on the ground
01:37 egrsteve|away I did 100+ ft of CCU cable like that, in the air
01:37 tonsofpcs fig8 on the ground is easy.  you just need someone feeding you the cable
01:37 egrsteve|away that was a fun time
01:37 tonsofpcs you need triax to play with
01:37 Ponko good stuff i have fb chat enabled on pidgin :P
01:37 egrsteve|away the lack of feeder must have messed me up
01:37 egrsteve|away we have a spool of triax
01:38 egrsteve|away and I hav worked with it before, although on spools (500ft camera cables)
01:38 Ponko good luck with it egrsteve|away
01:38 Ponko anyways goodnight peeps
01:38 egrsteve|away I think about 500ft anyway
01:38 egrsteve|away night ponko
01:39 tonsofpcs yea, triax REALLY fights being put into a figure 8
01:39 tonsofpcs we have triax+12/3 in mesh sheath in 30-40' lengths and triax in 75' lengths in the studio
01:39 tonsofpcs (or is it 50' and 100'?)
01:39 egrsteve|away +12/3?
01:39 egrsteve|away telepronpter power?
01:39 eadthem hey
01:40 egrsteve|away hello
01:40 eadthem !seen Guardianzozo
01:40 tonsofpcs yup :)
01:40 egrsteve|away not seen...
01:40 eadthem !seen Guardianzozo
01:40 tonsofpcs .seen guardianzozo
01:40 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I last saw Guardianzozo 91.13 hours ago at 2012-01-07 06:32:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 01:40:35 UTC
01:40 eadthem o
01:40 tonsofpcs :)
01:41 egrsteve|away I figured that was the only reason for power and triax
01:41 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: well, triax carries 220.  Wwish someone made an in-line power breakout for it to feed an LCD...
01:42 egrsteve|away triax carries 220?
01:42 tonsofpcs the mini 12v output connector on cameras isn't really enough current for an LCD
01:42 tonsofpcs yea, the serial data is differential between pins
01:43 tonsofpcs at least, I think it's 220...
01:43 egrsteve|away I would have figured 12 of 24V not line voltage there
01:43 * Katemonster 's hands are frozen :(
01:45 masterofmonks Katemonster: that is bad!
01:46 Katemonster is cold outside.
01:46 masterofmonks I know what frozen hands are like.
01:46 egrsteve|away just stand near serosters microwave of doom
01:46 masterofmonks I have had my hands so cold that when I put them under running water it began to freeze to them.
01:47 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: you need one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DSC-Labs-CamAlign-Front-Box-Standard-Greyscale-Focus-/360366363739?pt=Camcorders_Professional_Video_Cameras&hash=item53e782545b
01:47 BotSteve Title: DSC Labs CamAlign Front Box Standard Greyscale Focus | eBay
01:48 tonsofpcs (or a CDM28R w/ trumpets separate from the backfocus)
01:50 egrsteve|away I would be happy with a GVG 20 ten manual
01:50 tonsofpcs I can't help you there.
01:50 egrsteve|away it might  be time to write down the switch positions and start fideling with it
01:50 tonsofpcs if I run into a GVG sales guy, I'll mention it
01:51 egrsteve|away see if I can figure it our
01:51 egrsteve|away *out
01:51 tonsofpcs can you get me pictures of the jumper blocks and their positions on the boardS?
01:51 egrsteve|away probably
01:51 tonsofpcs I can compare with a 10XL
01:51 egrsteve|away all the blocks are on the PS board
01:52 tonsofpcs 20ten is a modular card system?
01:52 egrsteve|away it has 2 cards
01:52 tonsofpcs 10XL is 3 boards...
01:52 egrsteve|away PS and switch matrix
01:52 tonsofpcs (the remote control panel has just 2 of those three iirc)
01:52 egrsteve|away remote panel is about 2" deep for mine 1RU
01:52 egrsteve|away so I assume it is a single PCB
01:53 tonsofpcs right, you have the XY remote thing
01:53 tonsofpcs the 10xl remote is just another 10xl frame without BNCs on the back
01:53 egrsteve|away yes, the remote supports 4 levels
01:53 tonsofpcs but it's 2-wire (plus drain), right?
01:53 egrsteve|away so I hope to be able to control 2 20ten switch frames with it
01:53 egrsteve|away correct
01:54 tonsofpcs yea.  should be able to.  They might both be numbered 1-20 with different layers, but it should be doable
01:54 egrsteve|away thats the goal
01:55 tonsofpcs well, ideally you get 1-20 and 21-40
01:55 egrsteve|away well then there is the linking between outputs issue and cascade mapping
01:56 tonsofpcs I don't know that the 2010 can do cascade mapping...
01:56 tonsofpcs the 10XL can... kinda... but it's single output, it really just daisy chains input routing
01:57 tonsofpcs like, if you ask for anything beyond 10 it switches the first n/10 frames to input 10 (or is it 1?) and the last one to input n MOD 10
01:57 tonsofpcs actually!
01:57 egrsteve|away makes scense, with 10 outs cascading may mean using 10 ins resulting in a total 30 ins only
01:57 tonsofpcs oh, wait, nevermind, I was thinking wrong...
01:58 tonsofpcs how many sources do you have currently?
01:58 egrsteve|away more than I have hooked up
01:58 tonsofpcs 10? 20? 30? 50?
01:58 tonsofpcs and how many 20tens do you have?
01:58 egrsteve|away of stuff I would like to hook up, about 20
01:58 egrsteve|away if I can get the scan converters working
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01:59 tonsofpcs well, you really shouldn't be sticking cameras into the MC switcher, they should go to the production switcher
01:59 egrsteve|away I have 3 scan converters with bad PSUs i thkn
01:59 tonsofpcs and the trick with the production switcher is that it's used for production, so there's staff there for use
01:59 egrsteve|away we pulled the production switcher GVG 20001 as it was acting up
02:00 tonsofpcs so if you have 8 inputs on the switcher, the trick is to get your 40 cameras split between the two 20tens and wire 4 outputs from each to it, so you have 4 sources from each
02:00 egrsteve|away if I can get a newer/ better one I would love to
02:00 Guardianzozo whats up eadthem ?
02:00 BotSteve guardianzozo: I have the following messages for you:
02:00 BotSteve At 10 Jan 04:41Z, eadb asked me to tell guardianzozo i have a example tram station finished, timer controled,  the longer distance between stations the more carts it can handle at once
02:00 tonsofpcs egrsteve|away: can you get a grant for one?
02:00 tonsofpcs will futuregirl pay for one?
02:00 egrsteve|away idk
02:00 egrsteve|away i doubt it
02:00 tonsofpcs you're ok with syncing everything, right?
02:00 egrsteve|away live stream is not that important yet
02:01 egrsteve|away for the most part
02:01 eadthem only issue is your server was to buggy to build it on that
02:01 tonsofpcs well, what about a HD switcher?
02:01 egrsteve|away I was going to run one 20ten async signals and TBC the output
02:01 egrsteve|away using it as a matric for security inputs
02:02 tonsofpcs remember: TBCing one output doesn't let you switch between two inputs seamlessly.
02:02 egrsteve|away that reminds me I need to bring my waveform moniter to the noc
02:02 egrsteve|away I knwo
02:02 egrsteve|away hopefully 2 channels of TBC on it
02:02 egrsteve|away I need to start setting drive levels on the security cameras
02:03 tonsofpcs btw, epanorama says "When using triax cable, the overall system is powered by AC power at the CCU. Because the cable length can be very long (up to hundreds of meters) and considerable power needs to be transported (large camera and local monitor), the voltages transported through the triax cable can be quite high (up to 160V DC or 250V AC on some systems) to allow long distance power transfer (resistance can be 5-30 ohms per k
02:04 tonsofpcs well, how cheap of a production switcher can you deal with?  are you ok with a hack-job of a production switcher if yoou can do live HD with it?
02:04 egrsteve|away maybe, although I don't have HD sources
02:05 tonsofpcs aren't the production cameras HD?
02:05 egrsteve|away i don't think so
02:05 egrsteve|away component but not HD
02:05 egrsteve|away most are analog betacams
02:06 egrsteve|away I have a couple digital units
02:06 tonsofpcs the ones that corey and liz and them use?
02:07 egrsteve|away those ae digital, but I also ahve one DV cam unit and a Triax back
02:08 tonsofpcs right, do they have HDMI out?
02:08 tonsofpcs also does that triax back have SDI out?
02:08 NeWtoz egrsteve|away, 1ZY511170377730622 <--that box of cat5
02:08 NeWtoz You'll get it on Friday apparently
02:08 egrsteve|away no SDI, except the sony camera used for production vids
02:09 tonsofpcs actually, why do you care about the 20ten?
02:09 tonsofpcs you have a 96x96 (or larger) matrix!
02:09 egrsteve|away I do?
02:09 tonsofpcs don't yuo have racks of patchbays?
02:10 egrsteve|away yes and no
02:10 tonsofpcs why no?
02:10 egrsteve|away I don't have them installed, or a good place to put them
02:10 Obtuse did you guys know that a billion is bigger than oprah?
02:11 tonsofpcs one at the top of each splash?
02:11 tonsofpcs Obtuse: yes! I learned that recently
02:11 Obtuse i have sampled that section of the captains blog and put it into my mpc in Reason
02:11 Obtuse now to have some fun
02:11 egrsteve|away I could but I rather  not deal with one wires hanging everyware, as the only ones I have are BNC panels
02:12 tonsofpcs I thought you had some ADC 75ohm patchbays (BNC rears, long coax connector thing fronts)?
02:12 egrsteve|away I might have one, but I have no cables
02:12 tonsofpcs Obtuse: autotune?
02:13 Obtuse ooh, i could do some of that
02:16 * egrsteve|away watching flag madness
02:17 tonsofpcs http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/651663-REG/Edirol_Roland_LVS_800_LVS_800_Video_Mix_Live_Switcher.html are cute ltitle things
02:17 BotSteve Title: Roland LVS-800 Video Mix/Live Switcher LVS-800 B&H Photo Video
02:18 tonsofpcs Roland and ForA both make HD/SD SDI + composite input switchers iirc
02:19 tonsofpcs you should really see if newtek  or a newtek distributor is willing to donate a tricaster HD
02:19 egrsteve|away i will not touch a videonics (focus enhancment) switcher
02:19 tonsofpcs heh
02:19 egrsteve|away I dealt with those at school
02:19 tonsofpcs it could be worse! It could be an early panasonic MX
02:20 egrsteve|away i suppose so
02:21 egrsteve|away does (did) panasonic make anything decent except 12 input puch button switchers?
02:21 tonsofpcs cameras
02:21 tonsofpcs P2
02:21 tonsofpcs DVCProHD is ok
02:21 roadran422 hi all again
02:21 roadran422 lol
02:21 tonsofpcs their miniDV stuff was nice (if not 100% incompatible with Sony)
02:21 egrsteve|away DVC is DV cam isn't it?
02:22 tonsofpcs and by "100% incompatible" I mean "move a tape between one and the oother and you either killed the deck or the tape or both"
02:22 egrsteve|away one used a liquid lube the other dry
02:22 egrsteve|away and when you mixed them you got a nasty goo
02:22 tonsofpcs miniDV is DV, DV is DV, DVCAM is DVCAM, DVCPro is DVCPro, DVCPro50 is DVCPro @ 50Mbps, DVCProHD is DVCPro@.. 100? 125?
02:23 egrsteve|away ah ok
02:23 roadran422 What does HD stand for other than High Def
02:23 egrsteve|away I know minidv used different lubricants in the tapes between sony and panasonic
02:23 tonsofpcs right.
02:23 tonsofpcs that's the issue.
02:24 tonsofpcs DV is 25 Mbps in "SP", DVCAM is 25Mbps with a higher tape speed (3x?), DVCPro is 25 Mbps
02:24 tonsofpcs there's a few other DVCPro variants too
02:24 tonsofpcs oh, sony also did D5
02:24 tonsofpcs errr
02:24 tonsofpcs panny did D3/D5
02:24 tonsofpcs sony did D1/D2
02:24 tonsofpcs JVC did VHS, WVHS, and D9
02:24 egrsteve|away something like that
02:25 tonsofpcs canon did "oh, hey, we can stick a camera in front of this DV tape thingy"
02:25 tonsofpcs and NHK did "screw you guys, SuperHiVision!"
02:26 roadran422 Yay! X-RAY camera xD
02:26 tonsofpcs no
02:26 tonsofpcs they do have a obi-wan camera and display setup
02:26 roadran422 ...
02:26 tonsofpcs you need to go to vegas to see that btw, steve^^
02:26 tonsofpcs 3rd week in april? or is it 2nd this year...
02:26 egrsteve|away obi-wan cam?
02:27 tonsofpcs ya know the little hologgrams in star wars?
02:27 egrsteve|away ah yes
02:27 tonsofpcs sure, it only works in a 15 degree cone and only at a 4' distance, but it looks awesome.
02:28 egrsteve|away there is always limits
02:29 tonsofpcs for the demo, they have the cameera pointed at a table (lazy susan) with 3 objects rotating on it and they display that bback to you
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02:30 egrsteve|away was it a princese leia action figure?
02:31 tonsofpcs i forget what they had last time I saw it
02:31 tonsofpcs it's been two years
02:31 tonsofpcs oh, wow:
02:32 tonsofpcs http://nextbigfuture.com/2010/05/nhk-japan-is-promising-functional.html
02:32 BotSteve Title: NHK Japan is Promising Functional Holographic TV by 2016 and Will Work With Korea to Present 2022 World Cup With 3D Holography
02:33 tonsofpcs oh, and note that there's no 'focus' but 'depth control lens'
02:33 tonsofpcs (but no, it wasn't leia)
02:39 Katemonster http://youtu.be/6Ugkain3QUg
02:39 BotSteve Title: "Feather Fur and Fin" OFFICIAL VIDEO by Danny Michel - YouTube
02:39 Katemonster it's like a young robert downey jr. fronting a music video for modest mouse  /:O
02:39 Katemonster also hi
02:42 astro73|alice ohai kate
02:42 Katemonster astro!
02:42 Katemonster hi.
02:42 roadran422 Hi katemonster
02:42 Katemonster hi
02:42 roadran422 How did the name come about?
02:42 * Katemonster is wondering where the road ran to
02:42 Katemonster the name Katemonster?
02:43 roadran422 Yes^
02:43 roadran422 I don't know where the number came from but roadran came from roadrunner and then I just shortened it xD
02:43 Katemonster Caspian Sea Monster doesn't fit the character limit in a lot of places, including IRC
02:43 Katemonster and my name is Kate
02:43 astro73|alice roadran. the past tense of roadrun, clearly.
02:43 roadran422 xD ^
02:43 roadran422 Oh nice! Katemonster
02:47 Katemonster also this: http://youtu.be/j6eFNRKEROw
02:47 BotSteve Title: Avenue Q - "The Internet is for..." - YouTube
02:48 Katemonster which came out long after i started using 'Katemonster'
02:49 roadran422 "porn" xD
02:50 astro73|alice nothing like mupets discussing the nature of the internet
02:50 roadran422 Oh... Katemonster lol
02:50 roadran422 Wow.... Lol
02:50 Katemonster technically the character in the play is Kate Monster
02:50 Katemonster or rather Kathryn Monster
02:51 roadran422 Hahahahaha
02:51 Katemonster I'm Kaitlynmonster.
02:51 roadran422 Many variations lol
02:51 roadran422 My username is as unique to me as my name...
02:52 astro73|alice mine too
02:52 astro73|alice moreso
02:52 roadran422 lol
02:52 Katemonster well, i have never been anywhere on the internet where Caspian Sea Monster or some variation thereof was a taken name
02:53 roadran422 lol
02:53 Katemonster so there's that
02:53 astro73|alice "astro73" is sometimes taken, but i don't usually use it
02:53 astro73|alice not in actual registrations, anyway
02:53 roadran422 I don't think roadran422 or roadran322 is ever used.
02:53 tonsofpcs oy
02:53 roadran422 Also, who knows what microsoft cert is?
02:54 tonsofpcs MSCE?
02:54 roadran422 Yah
02:54 tonsofpcs err, MCSE
02:54 tonsofpcs .w MCSE
02:54 BotSteve "Microsoft Certified Professional (MCP) is a program of Professional certifications awarded by Microsoft." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCSE
02:54 roadran422 No that....
02:54 roadran422 For excel, word, powerpoint, access, and outlook
02:54 astro73|alice useless?
02:55 roadran422 Is it...
02:55 tonsofpcs useless for anyone born after 1980?
02:55 roadran422 I finished my cert for Excel and Word.
02:55 astro73|alice certs for IT-related things are of questionable utility
02:55 roadran422 I want to be an IT tech.
02:56 roadran422 A life where I can work with computers!
02:56 tonsofpcs excel and word won't make you an IT tech
02:56 tonsofpcs they'll make you a first-line helpdesk monkey.
02:56 roadran422 :P
02:56 Coderjoe microsoft certified solitare expert?
02:56 roadran422 Solitare xD
02:56 JA12 excel and word cert makes you a excel and word tech, for those versions
02:56 roadran422 Lol, I want to be IT tech...
02:56 JA12 same goes for every other cert that ms offers
02:56 Coderjoe JA12: too bad they change everything... damn ribbon bar...
02:56 roadran422 Lol
02:57 astro73|alice certs in general mean that you know how to use a specific version of a specific program, but not necessarily anything about concepts or design
02:57 roadran422 true...
02:57 tonsofpcs Certs for certain things mean "you showed up to the class"
02:57 roadran422 Lol
02:58 astro73|alice a class about network topologies or security is useful, because it taught you the concepts behind all the software and you have a basis to evaluate options
02:58 roadran422 I did good enough on both of my exams. I got a 900-970 in word, and 720ish in excel lol
02:58 JA12 yup. cisco networking certs are valuable
02:58 roadran422 650 was min to pass
02:58 JA12 also, expensive as hell
02:58 * tonsofpcs is Chyron Certified for Lyric Pro on an LEX HyperX
02:58 * tonsofpcs should get a CCNA
02:58 roadran422 That is why I go to college to get all my certs.
02:59 Coderjoe even some degrees aren't terribly meaningful
02:59 roadran422 I need to know my networking, linux, some programming and others
02:59 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: hey, I have a communications degree!
02:59 astro73|alice roadran422: "networking" is a big topic
02:59 JA12 so is linux
03:00 Coderjoe too many people doing computer programming related stuff because "that's where the money is" and don't really care to learn the theories and stuff behind it
03:00 tonsofpcs linux is a very small topic in the grand scheme of things
03:00 JA12 and programming =)
03:00 roadran422 ...
03:00 astro73|alice "linux" in the context of IT is a class. maybe two.
03:00 roadran422 An IT tech is a person that fixes networks, creates networking, fixes computers and program them?
03:00 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: yes.  Which makes it very hard to find a good worker...
03:00 roadran422 Like yNos..
03:00 Toastdude .seen wannabe1987
03:00 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw wannabe1987 3.52 hours ago at 2012-01-10 23:29:37 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:00:48 UTC
03:00 * tonsofpcs doesn't do IT, IT is way too narrow a field ;)
03:01 astro73|alice but networking.
03:01 JA12 roadran422: yup. also, cisco network gear uses linux extensively
03:01 tonsofpcs (and yes, I'm half-serious)
03:01 Coderjoe which frustrates someone like me. I learned about computers and programming on my own when I was young, and enjoyed figuring out how the computer worked and how to tell it to do stuff.
03:01 JA12 there are bsd and linux firewalls
03:01 roadran422 Lol I want to learn! It's going to be fun1
03:01 JA12 proxies
03:01 roadran422 I learn when I go in to college...
03:01 JA12 and so on
03:01 BitViper morning : 2 working routers ... noon : 0 working routers ... evening : 4 working routers ... interesting day
03:01 tonsofpcs roadran422: no, you get a formal education when you go to college
03:02 tonsofpcs you learn by applying the desire to learn.
03:02 roadran422 Mehh
03:02 roadran422 Mehh
03:02 tonsofpcs (this is the point of the geek group, really)
03:02 roadran422 It's 11 over here... Time 2 sleep
03:02 roadran422 Night all!
03:02 tonsofpcs 11?
03:02 astro73|alice how do you structure a LAN to maximize throughput? How do you connect distant campuses? How do you segregate your network to keep your servers safe from threats?
03:02 tonsofpcs are you in nova scotia?
03:02 roadran422|zZz tonsofpcs: Yah 11pm in fl
03:02 tonsofpcs erm...
03:02 tonsofpcs Wednesday  2012 January   11  03:02:53 UTC         1326250973
03:02 BitViper uh ?
03:02 roadran422|zZz xD
03:02 roadran422|zZz I mean 10!
03:02 tonsofpcs ^^
03:03 roadran422|zZz :P lol
03:03 * BitViper checks tonsofpcs' timezone settings
03:03 tonsofpcs BitViper: I'm sorry?
03:03 roadran422|zZz .t est
03:03 BotSteve Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:03:28 EST
03:03 BitViper or was it roadran422|zZz
03:03 roadran422|zZz BitViper: I said wrong time.
03:03 roadran422|zZz The time in est time zone.
03:03 roadran422|zZz .t est
03:03 BotSteve Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:03:44 EST
03:03 * BitViper is so confused today
03:03 roadran422|zZz lol
03:04 tonsofpcs .t Nova Scotia
03:04 BitViper for example of my confusion, see previous post  re routers
03:04 BotSteve tonsofpcs: Sorry, I don't know about the 'Nova Scotia' timezone.
03:04 tonsofpcs .wa Time in Halifax, Nova Scotia
03:04 BotSteve current time in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada;11:04:24 pm AST -> Tuesday, January 10, 2012;+2 hours;Halifax, Canada, , 11:04:24 pm  AST, Tuesday, January 10               Omaha, Nebraska, , 9:04:24 pm  CST, Tuesday, January 10;55 minutes 36 seconds;3:04:24 am GMT -> Wednesday January 11, 2012
03:05 roadran422|zZz Night!
03:05 roadran422|zZz It's dumb when the person thinks you are cheating but you aren't. :P
03:05 BitViper any networking nerds here, i need to figure out what ip a machine is on given only its mac and access to another machine on the same net
03:08 tonsofpcs BitViper: arp.
03:09 BitViper yeah but what command, how to use it ?
03:09 tonsofpcs OS?
03:09 BitViper linux
03:09 tonsofpcs *checks man*
03:09 BitViper well openwrt on router actualy
03:09 astro73|alice I thought ARP gave a MAC for a given IP
03:09 tonsofpcs oh
03:09 BitViper astro73 : works both ways
03:09 tonsofpcs that's easier
03:09 tonsofpcs DHCP?
03:09 astro73|alice BitViper: it does? that's way easier than what I was trying to come up with in my head
03:10 BitViper tonsofpcs : yes, except that the router has been totally reflashed since the ip for the machine in question was issued, so the router has no knowledge of what ip was issued to it now
03:10 tonsofpcs erm
03:10 tonsofpcs ok
03:10 tonsofpcs it shouldd know the moment it sees a packet fly by
03:11 BitViper i can wait till tomorow some time when the lease expires, but ...
03:11 tonsofpcs arp -n should show the whole table
03:11 tonsofpcs you shouldn't need to prod around since it should already be communicating
03:11 BitViper its not in the table, have looked, isnt there a command to force a query of a given mac ?
03:11 tonsofpcs I don't think openwrt has grep...
03:11 BitViper not if that machine hasnt had anything to say lately
03:12 tonsofpcs send a broadcast ping
03:12 tonsofpcs ?
03:12 BitViper how do i do that, and not sure that would help since the machine in question is hard-firewalled, i think will ignore pings
03:13 tonsofpcs ping -b [broadcast address goes here]
03:13 tonsofpcs and -c 4 should be plenty
03:13 BitViper bcast = like 192.168.0.255 right ?
03:13 tonsofpcs sure
03:13 tonsofpcs also, is it connected to a known physical interface? is it connected directly?
03:14 BitViper well, via a switch, but yes
03:14 tonsofpcs so yes and no, got it.
03:14 BitViper no broadcast option in openwrt aparently
03:15 tonsofpcs you might nnot need the -b
03:15 tonsofpcs the -b is just to prevent people from accidentally doing it
03:15 tonsofpcs anyway, you could nmap...
03:15 BitViper tried that, got response from one ip of 5 known active ones (already mapped)
03:15 tonsofpcs ok
03:15 BitViper nmap didnt help either, tried it
03:16 tonsofpcs well, now that you have a broadcast ping sent out, arp -n
03:16 BitViper hard firewalled =(
03:16 tonsofpcs what do you mean by "hard firewalled" ?
03:16 BitViper no change in arp
03:16 tonsofpcs it isn't on the network if it isn't communicating with the network.
03:16 BitViper the machine in question will ignore basicly everything inbound except ssh
03:16 tonsofpcs so probe tcp port 22 on all hosts?
03:17 BitViper i dunno how, i know nmap can but about all i know is -sP and -sS
03:18 tonsofpcs nmap -p 22 192.168.0.1-254
03:18 tonsofpcs you could also just try ssh to every address...
03:18 tonsofpcs I'm thinking this host actually isn't on your network though
03:18 BitViper well, i know it is, since i use it daily
03:19 BitViper its about 3 feet from my knee
03:19 tonsofpcs are you using it right now?
03:19 tonsofpcs is there a link light?
03:19 BitViper i would be if i could connect to it, yes its linked
03:19 tonsofpcs does it run dhclient? will it renew its ip address if you pull the network cable and reconnect it?
03:19 Coderjoe you can pingscan the whole IP range and then look at arp results (or just the mac address output of nmap)
03:20 Coderjoe oh
03:20 Coderjoe well then
03:20 tonsofpcs Coderjoe: yea, I'm thinking the interface was brought down when the router was reflashed and the interface hasn't been brought back up with IP...
03:20 Coderjoe arp will only work if you are on the same network segment
03:20 BitViper tonsofpcs : ive considerded doing that, and i think it will, but my back isnt thrilled with the idea of crawlling back in the corner to find the cable =(
03:21 tonsofpcs BitViper: can you pull the other end?
03:21 BitViper tonsofpcs : i think youre close, i think the iface came back up (it should have) but was given an ip other than the normal one.
03:21 BitViper both ends are back in the corner under two desks
03:21 tonsofpcs if it was given an IP, it should be in a table on the DHCP server
03:21 Coderjoe indeed
03:22 tonsofpcs if it is communicating with the network at all, you should see it in arp... unless those communications are sstopping at an earlier device
03:22 BitViper the switch should pass arp, well i know it does, since all the other devices are through teh same switch
03:23 BitViper grrrr, ok, port 22 scan failed too, ok, next option (ugh) the power switch i can reach (muahahaha)
03:23 Coderjoe no console at all?
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03:24 BitViper only by ssh
03:24 Coderjoe that's not console
03:24 BitViper no, no kbd/mon
03:25 BitViper owwwwww, ok pwr switch reached, barely
03:25 Coderjoe but the dhcp server should have a record of every lease it has given
03:26 Coderjoe at least until the lease expires. ISC dhcpd usually keeps leases around until it runs out of addresses in the pool
03:26 tonsofpcs ugh, this decoder ring is a failure.  It told me to drink more ovaltine and this "New! Improved recipe" sucks.
03:27 tonsofpcs it also has nowhere near as much vitamins as the old one
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03:28 dbshortwave yay that was fun
03:28 tonsofpcs ya?
03:28 * dbshortwave nods
03:28 BitViper power cycle successful, machine now in arp with proper ip
03:29 tonsofpcs BitViper: good.  Now fix it so it doesn't happen again
03:31 Experimentonomen hm
03:34 BitViper if i could stop my routers from dying ... *grumble*
03:35 * tonsofpcs suggests a routerboard
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03:36 Obtuse k, i'm don with my remix  ... http://tindeck.com/listen/rked
03:36 BotSteve Title: Obtuse - A billion is bigger than oprah - Tindeck MP3 Download
03:36 Obtuse thanks Botsteve
03:36 BotSteve You're welcome, Obtuse
03:37 wannabe1987 i survived!
03:37 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
03:37 BotSteve At 00:34Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell wannabe1987 hi
03:37 wannabe1987 hi Obtusebot
03:37 Toastdude WANNABE!!!
03:37 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
03:37 * dbshortwave yawna
03:38 Toastdude Dude!
03:38 wannabe1987 i survived orchestra!  my back hurts, however
03:38 wannabe1987 hi dbshortwave
03:38 dbshortwave hi wannabe1987
03:38 astro73|alice are DVI/VGA adaptors two way?
03:38 wannabe1987 hi astro
03:39 astro73|alice hi wannabe1987
03:39 tonsofpcs Toast!
03:39 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: not exactly......
03:39 tonsofpcs *explanation to follow*
03:39 Toastdude lol
03:39 dbshortwave yes
03:39 wannabe1987 hi tonsofpcs!
03:39 Toastdude Obtuse: What program did you use?
03:39 tonsofpcs DVI has a few flavors.  If you look at the connector, you'll see a -|- segment on one side.  Around this are four pins or holes -- but they might not always be there
03:39 dbshortwave yes astro73|alice
03:40 dbshortwave just depends on the adapter
03:40 tonsofpcs those are the analog-compatible pins.  If the connection supports them ("DVI-I" or "DVI-A") you can use the VGA adapter with it.
03:40 dbshortwave what he said
03:40 tonsofpcs if it doesn't (DVI-D), then it's useless.
03:40 tonsofpcs it's just a physical pinning adapter.
03:40 astro73|alice my girl is looking at getting her own adaptor to connect her laptop to the school's cintiq, so it goes VGA->DVI
03:41 tonsofpcs I think the Cintiqs are DVI-I
03:41 tonsofpcs *checks*
03:41 dbshortwave then it sould work fine
03:41 dbshortwave i cant see why it wouldnt
03:42 dbshortwave they make the Cintiqs pretty flexable
03:42 tonsofpcs yes
03:42 tonsofpcs they even come with DVI-I<>VGA adapters
03:43 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImryXGeEEz4
03:43 BotSteve Title: Arnold Bax - Christmas Eve: Symphonic Poem (1912) - YouTube
03:43 wannabe1987 some of the violin work in that piece will leave me in tears before the concert ever starts.  HOLY CRAP
03:43 dbshortwave i cant wait till i get another 24 foot DVI cable
03:43 dbshortwave or was it 12
03:44 dbshortwave na had to be either 20 or 24 foot
03:44 astro73|alice tonsofpcs, dbshortwave: she's connected it before, with the help of a tech, but she wants to get her own adaptors for it
03:44 dbshortwave cant say as i blame her
03:45 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: well, I'd make sure that they're ok with that.  If they are, go for it.
03:45 astro73|alice as the one windows person in a mac place, yes
03:45 dbshortwave ive got 2 52 inch HD rear projection screens in my basement
03:45 tonsofpcs dbshortwave: why?
03:45 tonsofpcs (and please say "flight sim"
03:45 tonsofpcs )
03:45 dbshortwave why not
03:45 dbshortwave ;D
03:46 tonsofpcs :(
03:46 dbshortwave i was thinking that
03:46 tonsofpcs oh, ok
03:46 tonsofpcs see we need to find a good combat flight sim that we can play with BatSteve-Away :)
03:46 tonsofpcs I've got 100" and a yoke+throttle quadrant on a cart
03:46 dbshortwave nice
03:47 dbshortwave i was going to put this card i got through its paces
03:47 tonsofpcs what card?
03:47 dbshortwave its an invidia
03:47 tonsofpcs also, I think it's time to buy skyrim.
03:47 tonsofpcs which nVidia?
03:48 dbshortwave Quadro FX 3000
03:48 wannabe1987 .seen lwq1996
03:48 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw lwq1996 719.13 hours ago at 2011-12-12 04:41:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:48:47 UTC
03:48 wannabe1987 o right, he's broken
03:48 dbshortwave >.>
03:49 wannabe1987 lee was here yesterday
03:49 wannabe1987 but the bot doesn't seem to realize it....its a "feature"
03:50 dbshortwave i think
03:50 dbshortwave i'm about to crash
03:50 dbshortwave brb need reboot
03:50 tonsofpcs he wasn't here as lwq1996
03:51 wannabe1987 true, he was leepod
03:51 wannabe1987 but still, he's been here before 716 hours has passed
03:51 wannabe1987 if that makes sense, give me a cookie
03:53 Toastdude .cake wannabe1987
03:53 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you an almond amaretto cream cake!
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03:53 wannabe1987 o.O
03:53 wannabe1987 lol the dog laid down in my room
03:54 dbshortwave heh
03:54 tonsofpcs he knew about the cake.
03:54 dbshortwave its alie
03:55 wannabe1987 no, i have yogurt, dinner (hash), chips, and choc chips in here :P
03:55 dbshortwave AH hash
03:55 dbshortwave smells like dog food
03:55 dbshortwave thats why
03:55 dbshortwave lol
03:55 wannabe1987 ....not mine
03:55 wannabe1987 its got potatoes, zucchini and butternut squash
03:56 wannabe1987 don't insult my food
03:56 dbshortwave heh i wasent insultinG 'your food' i was insulting hash in general
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03:57 wannabe1987 :D
03:57 lwq1996 sup
03:57 wannabe1987 hi :D
03:58 tonsofpcs agree w/ dbshortwave.
03:58 Toastdude Lee!
03:58 tonsofpcs (not about the dog food smell, about the insulting hash in general :)
03:58 * lwq1996 jumps on toastdrew
03:58 lwq1996 TOASTDUDE IS MY BITCH
03:58 tonsofpcs oy vey
03:58 lwq1996 :P
03:59 Toastdude ...
03:59 tonsofpcs lwq1996: translation: ay dios mio.
03:59 tonsofpcs grr @ internet suckage btw.
03:59 wannabe1987 agreed w/ tonsofpcs
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04:01 wannabe1987 hi jess
04:02 KawaiiJess Ohai
04:03 egrsteve|away epic cameras coming
04:03 egrsteve|away chris is ordering 70 security cams
04:04 wannabe1987 o.O
04:04 egrsteve|away we need BALUNS and CAT5
04:04 tonsofpcs whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
04:04 lwq1996 HE RAN OUT
04:05 tonsofpcs 70 cams? have you gotten the patching issues resolved?
04:05 lwq1996 probally need cat5 more than baluns
04:05 tonsofpcs have you figured out how to patch trunks yet?
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04:06 dbshortwave_ odd
04:06 lwq1996 good day to you sir
04:06 tonsofpcs do you have RJ45s?
04:07 astro73|alice i think I need a print of this for work
04:07 astro73|alice https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=302205336482902&amp;set=a.144024562300981.15892.144021348967969&amp;type=1&amp;ref=nf
04:07 BotSteve Title: Facebook
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04:07 lwq1996 word of the day is kerf
04:07 wannabe1987 lol
04:07 wannabe1987 whats it mean, lee?
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04:07 lwq1996 go to mosses photo she just posted
04:07 wannabe1987 i saw
04:07 wannabe1987 i liked
04:07 wannabe1987 I UNDERSTAND
04:08 wannabe1987 :D
04:08 dbshortwave hmmm
04:08 dbshortwave intresting
04:08 dbshortwave oh that explains
04:08 dbshortwave didnt see that there
04:14 dbshortwave hmm thought i losted it
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04:22 wannabe1987 "some drunk guy tried to steal my car" "how far did he get" "he couldn't drive stick"  THIS IS WHY MANUALS ROCK
04:23 astro73|alice lol
04:24 lwq1996 really, wow
04:24 Experimentonomen i can only drive a stick
04:25 Experimentonomen never driven an auto
04:25 BatSteve any messages for me BotSteve?
04:25 BatSteve oh good.
04:25 lwq1996 autos are easy, think of it as a tractor
04:26 wannabe1987 ....
04:26 wannabe1987 Experimentonomen: just let go of the brake and the car moves
04:26 wannabe1987 its weird
04:26 wannabe1987 bye bats :/
04:26 wannabe1987 i saw'd you were on fb!
04:26 lwq1996 that and tractors dont have gas pedles
04:27 wannabe1987 then how does that help?  automatics have gas pedals
04:27 wannabe1987 you just don't shift.
04:27 wannabe1987 i've attempted to hit the clutch...i got the brake :P
04:27 Experimentonomen i've never driven a tractor
04:28 lwq1996 my dad tryed to teach me how to shift last summer
04:28 wannabe1987 its ok Experimentonomen, you're not missing out on anything, never driving auto.
04:28 lwq1996 i almost made the tractor fall off the back because i made it jump
04:29 eadthem anyone know any imediate issues with any of the folowing models of laser jet printer   4200TN, 5, 5M, 4050N, 2200D ?
04:30 egrsteve|away 4050, older model but reliable
04:30 Experimentonomen all brands and models of printers have some qwerk or another
04:31 eadthem well i know brother's suck
04:31 eadthem and generaly older HP laserjets are built like a tank
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04:35 Experimentonomen g'day sparko
04:35 lwq1996 um, he left, he didnt join
04:35 Experimentonomen Oops
04:35 * Experimentonomen is malfunctioning
04:36 wannabe1987 its ok, its a "feature" :P
04:36 lwq1996 lol
04:37 lwq1996 im gonna count how many times i sneez tomorrow
04:37 lwq1996 ive sneezed like 10times in the past 30min
04:38 wannabe1987 lol ok
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04:49 wannabe1987 ...
04:52 wannabe1987 irc died
04:52 * exor674 hugs wannabe1987
04:53 wannabe1987 grrr /me slaps self
04:53 wannabe1987 dson't do that!
04:55 wannabe1987 you make yourself weepy when you do that...b.ad idea....
04:55 * Experimentonomen looks at lwq1996 and thinks hayfever or allergies
04:56 * wannabe1987 supplies allergy pill
05:00 * wannabe1987 has a shift at both places of work tomorrow o.O
05:03 Experimentonomen wannabe1987, atleast its not at both places at the same time
05:04 wannabe1987 no, its not....its one place from 11-1, andthe other from 2-10....
05:04 Experimentonomen long shift total
05:06 wannabe1987 mhm
05:07 wannabe1987 the first job tho, is relatively easy...
05:14 wannabe1987 hello?  BitViper? Toastdude? lwq1996? Monkeh?  anyone?
05:14 Toastdude Hi
05:14 wannabe1987 i was going to google something....now i forgot what :/
05:19 wannabe1987 i remembered!
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05:26 hopstafarian transformer issues?
05:26 Andyroo_ *waves* Good morning!
05:26 wannabe1987 hi Andyroo_
05:26 hopstafarian Andyroo_, good mornin
05:26 Andyroo_ Hey Wannabe1987, how's you?
05:27 Andyroo_ hi hops :)
05:27 wannabe1987 doing well.  you?
05:28 Andyroo_ All's well here :)  Just went all "dear blog" and wrote a post about how getting a group together is awesome :D
05:28 wannabe1987 :D
05:28 hopstafarian Andyroo_, hey..long time,,
05:29 Andyroo_ Huh, sneaky underscore tail there. Wonder how I get rid of that :O
05:29 Andyroo_ What's new hops?
05:29 * hopstafarian raises a toast to all that recognize the benefits of a community oriented mindset..
05:30 hopstafarian Andyroo_, the usual, this week in the bug...much prefer being the windshield..
05:30 * Andyroo_ approves
05:31 hopstafarian Andyroo_, *i'm the bug, etc..
05:31 Toastdude Stop picking me up... that's weird.. :P
05:31 Andyroo_ Oh dear! Who went and splattered you across glass at 60mph? :(
05:32 hopstafarian Andyroo_, the usual, being others expectations, mixed up w/ my own....
05:32 Andyroo_ Here's hoping it becomes unusual soon for ya :)
05:33 hopstafarian Andyroo_, throw in a little reality, and viola!
05:34 hopstafarian Andyroo_, thanks for that...it'll b aiight...just as soon as i'm not running wiring through the ceiling like a goddamm tunnel rat...
05:35 Andyroo_ That actually sounds like fun :O
05:35 hopstafarian Andyroo_, thinks i need to hire me an assistant... getting too old for this sh*t
05:35 hopstafarian Andyroo_, you're hired then.!!
05:35 Andyroo_ A problem shared, a problem halved :)   Unless it's also an income halved, that brings its own problems :)
05:36 Andyroo_ Oh my, easiest job interview ever! :D
05:36 hopstafarian Andyroo_, lol...guess it won't work out then...good luck then..I don't even get paid what I'm worth...
05:37 hopstafarian Andyroo_, but i do get paid to make my own fun...so i guess it evens out
05:38 hopstafarian Andyroo_, all comes out in the wash...but enough about me...how goes it?
05:38 Andyroo_ That's the spirit, focus on the positives! I left a sucky job at the end of August, started studying again, had to file for bankruptcy in December, things work out eventually, job would be nice though :D  Keep your chin up eh?
05:39 hopstafarian Andyroo_, ooh, that sounds promising...what did you choose to study?
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05:40 Andyroo_ Astronomy. Happy gazing at the heavens :)
05:40 wannabe1987 hi NothingNerd
05:41 wannabe1987 oooo i have a question for you then, Andyroo_!
05:41 wannabe1987 why does work SUCK at a full moon?
05:41 Andyroo_ Mind you, I mostly gaze at a computer screen
05:41 hopstafarian Andyroo_, and it's "keep your chinS up"///...i weigh 400+  (give or take 400lbs)..
05:41 Toastdude Andyroo_: #tgg:atronomy :)
05:41 Toastdude Not used much though..
05:41 hopstafarian wannabe1987, cause the crazies come out...
05:41 wannabe1987 yes, i know.  but why?
05:42 wannabe1987 i work at a nursing home.....work was *crazy* last night
05:42 hopstafarian Andyroo_, were you able to catch the quadrantids?
05:42 Andyroo_ Ooh, now if I can only figure out how to join other channels! Aye, the police force say the same thing when the moon is full, the cells usually are too :O
05:42 wannabe1987 Andyroo_: /join #tgg:astronomy
05:43 Andyroo_ hops, I'd say grow a luxurious beard for the second chin to live in, that's what I've done :D
05:43 Andyroo_ Ah, thank you wannabe1987 :)
05:43 wannabe1987 anytime
05:43 hopstafarian wannabe1987, high tide?...bodies and brains mostly made of water?
05:43 Andyroo_ Quadrantids no, alas.
05:43 wannabe1987 but seriously, why do the crazies come out then?!
05:43 Andyroo_ http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200502/full-moon-crazy
05:43 BotSteve Title: Full Moon Crazy | Psychology Today
05:44 hopstafarian Andyroo_, alas and alack, me either...caught the first part...
05:45 Andyroo_ Still planning a 2015 trek up to the Faroe Isles for the next big solar eclipse in our region
05:45 wannabe1987 where are you at?
05:45 wannabe1987 city/state/country?
05:45 Andyroo_ Apparently there are ferries there from the west coast. I'm in Scotland.
05:45 hopstafarian Andyroo_, alas and alack, me either...caught the first part...
05:45 Andyroo_ *east coast even
05:45 wannabe1987 right.  a scot
05:46 Andyroo_ Aye :)
05:46 wannabe1987 weeee scots!
05:46 hopstafarian wannabe1987, personally, i think it has to do with 0g physiology
05:46 wannabe1987 0g?
05:46 hopstafarian Andyroo_, och, where in scotland?
05:46 Andyroo_ Ayr, the sunny wee burgh of happiness on the rainy west coast :D
05:46 hopstafarian wannabe1987, zero -G
05:47 wannabe1987 yes, i got that....but whats it *mean*?
05:49 hopstafarian wannabe1987,  in a zero g environs, they've noticed that it has to do with a sodium mineral balance, insofar as regulating mineral balance, interstitial pressure, and how those things influence the hydritic nature of the brain and body...?
05:49 hopstafarian wannabe1987, using those environs to explore the effect of aging?
05:50 wannabe1987 i don't know...i was asking a question
05:50 wannabe1987 don't answer with a question mark...i won't know if you know it or not
05:51 hopstafarian wannabe1987, i don't know.. here to shapren my wits, not to challenge...
05:52 wannabe1987 well, you asnwered my question with a question (mark).
05:53 hopstafarian wannabe1987, potassium allows for the chemical process that incited the specialized contraction, while sodium contributes to the relaxation/elongation of said muscle groups...(sh*t son, almost used a ? mark.., sorry...)
05:54 wannabe1987 ah.  ok
05:55 hopstafarian wannabe1987, my bad..you know i'm an idiot, right...my apologies...not trying to offend, just trying to stumble my dumb ass around in the dark, hoping to hit the pinata...
05:55 wannabe1987 free candy?
05:55 Andyroo_ candy's innocent!
05:55 * wannabe1987 has mini choc chips sitting by her bed :D
05:56 hopstafarian wannabe1987, mmm///cc's
05:56 Andyroo_ I read that emote as mini chop sticks...
05:56 wannabe1987 lol
05:57 wannabe1987 geek olympics?
05:57 wannabe1987 i wanna judge...
05:57 Andyroo_ Tune! I'm browsing through old youtube favourites and found this one. Scottish folk music, gets your feet tapping :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axw3SFmmao8&amp;feature=related
05:57 BotSteve Title: Capercaillie - Sidewaulk Reels - YouTube
05:58 wannabe1987 i just was sitting in orchestra for 2 hours...my feet tapped enough, thanks
05:58 Andyroo_ What's your instrument wannabe1987?
05:58 wannabe1987 (2nd) violin
05:58 * hopstafarian is on biofeedback to train for that///aka, the geek olympics...automatically got a gold...
05:59 hopstafarian wannabe1987, oboe and guitar, here...
05:59 wannabe1987 cool
05:59 wannabe1987 we're playing hard stuff....need an english horn too! :P
05:59 Andyroo_ Impressive both! ...I can hum, that's about it.
06:00 wannabe1987 i also can play double bass, cello, handbells, piano, and i sing soprano when my voice works :P
06:00 wannabe1987 yes, my entire family is musical, including my father....he can play piano
06:02 Sgt_Lemming fsck, didn't get the job I wanted >_<
06:02 Sgt_Lemming sigh...
06:02 wannabe1987 awww :(  sorry lem :(
06:02 Sgt_Lemming yeah, tis ok
06:03 wannabe1987 no, tis not, if you didn't get the job you wanted.  you'll get a job, i knows you will!
06:03 Sgt_Lemming yeah, just would have been a really nice job
06:05 wannabe1987 .g nikon n4004
06:05 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/htmls/models/htmls/slr8486.htm
06:07 hopstafarian Andyroo_, good stuff...just up my alley ...also checkout
06:11 hopstafarian Andyroo_, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxCkqNIEx2w
06:11 BotSteve Title: The Boxer - Alison Krauss, Shawn Colvin & Jerry Douglas - YouTube
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06:13 wannabe1987 look who it is!
06:13 wannabe1987 .cookie Electricguy
06:13 BotSteve Here you go, Electricguy, I baked you a mocha cappuccino cookie!
06:13 Electricguy nom
06:13 Electricguy morning all
06:13 wannabe1987 breakfast :nods:
06:14 Andyroo_ Oh, apologies there hops, was away making tea, clicking link now :)   Glad you liked it!
06:14 Andyroo_ Also morning Electricguy
06:14 Electricguy morning :)
06:15 Andyroo_ Ah, Alison Krauss, not to be beaten! I'm a big fan of Nanci Griffith too.
06:16 wannabe1987 w000 one video down, 2 to go (until he adds yesterdays vid)
06:16 wannabe1987 o this one is short :D
06:18 Andyroo_ Next one... oh, poor poor Christina, I wonder how close she was to breaking at the end? :)
06:18 wannabe1987 she's nice.....i don't know her well, but we've met at teh lab a few times
06:18 wannabe1987 we both cleaned up bodens mess(es) for him...
06:19 Andyroo_ Ah, I wonder who picks up all those discarded viewer mail packets :D
06:19 wannabe1987 girls
06:19 wannabe1987 and then she yells at him to "not put stuff on mooses table"
06:20 Andyroo_ Is girlgeeks just going to be a glorified janitors closet? :(
06:20 wannabe1987 don't know yet
06:20 Andyroo_ Guys, chip in at the labs!
06:20 wannabe1987 but lots of "girl geeks" computer geeks as well
06:21 wannabe1987 are computer*
06:21 wannabe1987 right exor674?
06:21 exor674 girls are totally able to be computer geeks!
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06:21 exor674 ( or HV geeks, or electronics geeks, or anything! )
06:21 wannabe1987 we shouldn't be relegated to one room in the entire damn building....
06:22 BitViper for those who dont know ... sparkfun free day in 9 hours and counting sparkfun.com
06:22 Andyroo_ Indeed, sky's the limit for all :)
06:22 wannabe1987 its kinda discriminating to call the fashon/design "girl geeks"
06:23 * hopstafarian goes to eat a lamb shoulder chop..enjoys the hell outta it...wishes all a good eve, and to all a good night///
06:23 exor674 wannabe1987: I think he said in one capt. blog that it's a way to entice girls who wouldn't even THINK about getting involved in science into the group
06:23 Andyroo_ Night dude, bon appetit :)
06:23 wannabe1987 ok, but to call it "girl geek" is still discriminating....
06:23 wannabe1987 night hops
06:23 Andyroo_ Aye, it makes for a good program, but the name's a bit iffy.
06:24 Andyroo_ My e-cig battery is still charging D:   I need my morning vape!
06:24 wannabe1987 awww poor you
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06:25 Andyroo_ I'm grateful to be able to breathe and taste and smell normally, but damn it the nicotine addiction is still there :O
06:25 wannabe1987 hi exor674
06:25 wannabe1987 Experimentonomen*
06:26 Experimentonomen amp works! :D
06:26 wannabe1987 now on to 1-9-12's vid
06:26 Andyroo_ hi Experimentonomen :)
06:26 wannabe1987 w00t
06:26 Experimentonomen but its only 7:30 in the morning so i cant really turn it up any
06:27 wannabe1987 lol
06:27 * Andyroo_ wonders where in the world GMT +1 is...
06:27 exor674 I am out of mike and ikes /o
06:27 exor674 Andyroo_: right now?
06:27 Andyroo_ Western Sahara, Experimentonomen ? :)
06:28 Andyroo_ Just wondering, since it's 06:28 here, and there ain't much one time zone west of here :D
06:28 wannabe1987 no, but there might be down south of you.....
06:28 wannabe1987 like in mainland europe!
06:28 Experimentonomen Andyroo_, i live in sweden
06:28 Andyroo_ Aye, and of course, + is East    /facepalm
06:28 Andyroo_ Moving along :3
06:28 wannabe1987 lol
06:29 wannabe1987 :)
06:29 Andyroo_ Derp, which way round does the sun go again? :S
06:29 exor674 Andyroo_: *points* thataway
06:29 Andyroo_ *looks*  :O
06:29 wannabe1987 well, it sets in the west....
06:30 wannabe1987 i live in WEST michigan and i can go to lake MI and watch the sun set on the lake...
06:30 exor674 well, the sun doesn't go round! WE go round
06:30 exor674 ( well, okay, the sun IS orbiting SOMETHING, but nyah )
06:30 wannabe1987 lol
06:30 Andyroo_ Pretty!  Best sunset over here is the next peninsula over, the Mull of Kintyre
06:30 Andyroo_ Got a picture buried somewhere.... *looks*
06:32 Andyroo_ Aha, my old flickr account http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyroocunningham/5477661794/in/photostream
06:32 BotSteve Title: Sun will set | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
06:33 lwq1996 later everyone im going to bed
06:33 wannabe1987 oooo
06:33 wannabe1987 night hun
06:33 lwq1996 night
06:33 Toastdude Night all... going to bed too
06:33 JA12 Pain - Let Me Out
06:33 wannabe1987 you too?
06:33 Andyroo_ nn all :)
06:33 wannabe1987 i should as well, but um 1 hour 3 min of a vid left!
06:36 Andyroo_ It's addictive ain't it wannabe1987
06:36 wannabe1987 no, i'm behind cuz YT was sucking....
06:36 wannabe1987 its being "ok" today...but still sucking
06:36 exor674 wannabe1987: sleep is evil anyway
06:36 wannabe1987 when i get my power cord for my netbook, it won't suck anyomre
06:36 wannabe1987 yes, dredre, but i work 10 hours tomorrow....1 2 hr shift, 1 8 hr shift
06:36 Andyroo_ Ouch!
06:37 exor674 wannabe1987: ach
06:37 wannabe1987 mhm
06:37 exor674 wannabe1987: workyyou!
06:37 wannabe1987 :(
06:43 wannabe1987 Andyroo_: thats awesome.  idk if i told you
06:43 Andyroo_ ?
06:43 wannabe1987 photo
06:44 exor674 dear spammers/scammers. I am not a "Sir"
06:44 wannabe1987 sir dre!
06:44 wannabe1987 :P
06:44 exor674 If you wish to make me fall for your scam and let you steal my identity and ruin my life
06:44 Andyroo_ oh, the picture? Thanks! I have about 80 or so fail compositions in my library as well :D
06:44 exor674 Get my title right please
06:44 wannabe1987 mrs dre?
06:44 exor674 heh! <3
06:45 Andyroo_ Sir Exor - slayer of dragons, knight errant to the kingdom of Fijuvia, adventurer, rocket scientist, etc.
06:45 exor674 heee :P
06:45 exor674 I think in that context, it would be Lady ?
06:46 Andyroo_ Indeed, but the scammers are on to a winner :D
06:46 wannabe1987 milady
06:47 exor674 or yaknow, given this thing seemed to be something they wanted replying to at a @gmail address, I just reported the email to gmail >_>
06:48 wannabe1987 Cprossu: did they ever figure out who was switching the stream?
06:51 Andyroo_ Gibroni's dinosaur. It escapes at night.
06:51 wannabe1987 lol
06:51 wannabe1987 better that than his pony :P
06:51 Andyroo_ He has a pony???
06:52 wannabe1987 my little pony
06:52 wannabe1987 sure?
06:52 wannabe1987 i don't know
06:52 wannabe1987 i dont' follow all the characters
06:52 * exor674 wants a pony
06:52 wannabe1987 :P
06:52 wannabe1987 .g pony
06:52 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.pony.org/
06:53 Andyroo_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLYibveYbGc
06:53 BotSteve Title: Luna: ALL SHALL LOVE ME AND DESPAIR! - YouTube
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06:56 wannabe1987 hi Seroster
06:57 Seroster Hm.
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07:02 wannabe1987 wb?
07:04 Andyroo_ Going for a walk, back later :)   Goodnight America!
07:05 Seroster Hm
07:05 Seroster You are odd.
07:06 wannabe1987 who is odd, andyroo?  he's scottish, it happens
07:09 Seroster No, you are
07:10 wannabe1987 of course.  i'm female!
07:15 wannabe-zz don't worry, i'm like gonna sleep now?
07:17 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJDMFrGtmQk&amp;feature=g-vrec&amp;context=G2d846beRVAAAAAAAAAg
07:17 BotSteve Title: Poseable ragdoll cat - YouTube
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07:20 DruidicRifleman GRRR every single freaking
07:20 DruidicRifleman night
07:20 Coderjoe mmm
07:20 DruidicRifleman Some moron
07:21 DruidicRifleman near us has areally bad wireless net work
07:21 Coderjoe can hear the tesla coils in the video segment with the glaziers
07:21 DruidicRifleman that disables out Network somehow
07:21 Seroster Lol
07:21 Seroster DruidicRifleman, build a tesla coil
07:21 Seroster That'll fuck with his network bigtime.
07:21 Coderjoe time ta do some sluthin
07:22 DruidicRifleman yeah
07:22 DruidicRifleman and raise my electricity
07:22 DruidicRifleman bill
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07:28 Coderjoe goodness how delicious, eating goober peas.
07:30 einball hm
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07:44 Coderjoe BotSteve: tell egrsteve if it would be OK, I'd like scan that sony camera service manual and upload it to archive.org
07:44 BotSteve Coderjoe: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
07:48 egrsteve|away that is a lot to scan
07:48 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
07:48 BotSteve At 07:44Z, Coderjoe asked me to tell egrsteve if it would be OK, I'd like scan that sony camera service manual and upload it to archive.org
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07:53 * angy multi-fondles Seroster-school
07:53 einball hmm
07:53 einball Need to wait for the break to watch captains blog :D
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07:57 * Experimentonomen looks at einball
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07:57 * einball stares back
07:58 Coderjoe chris' network talk is making me twitch
07:59 einball I have to wait until break to watch the episode . gnaaaahrg! And it is soo boring
07:59 einball What's up Experimentonomen ?
08:05 einball Experimentonomen: You start to freak me out ... Stop looking at me!
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08:07 Experimentonomen einball, not much
08:07 Experimentonomen got the stereo amp done enough to test
08:08 einball That's great :)
08:08 einball Please make a video while testing :)
08:08 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/Ik4xe.jpg <-- its a bit of a hackjob due to the way i had to do it, but atleast it seem to be working
08:09 Experimentonomen i already had those daughter boards since before and they were a bit too tall to put where i wanned them, but oh well
08:09 Experimentonomen g'day sasha
08:10 einball Ah come on ... That's cool. With or without thoise daughterboards
08:11 * Experimentonomen waits for the day to get alittle older so he can turn up the volume to more than a whisper
08:11 einball *g*
08:11 einball For me no music today
08:12 Experimentonomen its not running on the intended psu either, using a dinky little 80VA psu for the first bias adjustments and testing
08:12 einball Nice .. The two students in front of me are reading the failblog ...
08:12 Experimentonomen hm
08:12 einball Well .. 80VA should be enough for bias adjustment :D
08:12 einball *should*
08:13 einball "Sir, we exceed 100Amps of standby current" :D
08:13 Experimentonomen and i need to recheck bias, one channel runs alittle warm and the other is still almost stone cold
08:15 einball Jep .. How many watts outputs?
08:15 einball -s
08:15 Experimentonomen with the proper psu, around 50 watts per channel into 4 ohms
08:16 Experimentonomen and the sub channel around 200 watts into 4 ohms
08:17 einball hrrr
08:17 einball :D
08:17 einball Don't make me horny. 200Watts is a lot
08:18 einball *of output power
08:18 einball ;D
08:20 Experimentonomen and due to the way i did the power measurement, i've been told that output power might be even higher, some ppl have claimed as high as 400 watts because digilat multimeters tend to show a too low value above 60Hz, since i use 1kHz
08:20 Coderjoe it takes 200 watts to turn you on?
08:21 einball Maybe a thermal measurement may be more accurate
08:21 Experimentonomen i measure AC voltage across a 4 ohm dummyload
08:21 einball Coderjoe: Well, there are some more things turning me on .. LINACs for example :)
08:25 Experimentonomen ein, what kinda hobbies do u have ?
08:25 einball I have no hobbies ;)
08:25 Experimentonomen hm
08:26 einball Just gave everything up for university
08:26 Experimentonomen theres no way i could possibly do that, even if i just hang at the computer 90% of my time
08:27 einball Well .... I have to ride the train 1.5h to get to university, 1.5h back. So my day lacks 3 hours to do fun stuff.
08:28 einball Also I have to get up quite early in the morning (05:30) and come home at 18:00-21:00
08:28 Experimentonomen so ur free time is like get home, eat dinner and goto bed, then in morning eat breakfast, get on train and goto uni
08:28 einball Jip
08:29 Experimentonomen :(
08:29 Experimentonomen shit life
08:29 einball Well ... Not quite
08:29 einball I like to learn stuff. That satisfies me :)
08:30 einball And there are weekends I can solder through the night :)
08:31 einball Iam quite binary. Either my life is like "OMG AWESOME" or it is like "aww, shit -.-
08:31 einball =)
08:32 Experimentonomen so wut do u don on ur free time other than sleep and homework ?
08:33 einball Awesome stuff :D
08:33 einball Tinker with electronics like you do. Build machines and so on
08:33 einball Okay, it's break now .. Gota get a coffee and then there is an important lecture
08:33 einball cu
08:40 Experimentonomen yuck
08:41 Experimentonomen when it comes to school, nothing is important
08:41 MadManMarkAu *what *you *do *on *your
08:41 MadManMarkAu :)
08:42 MadManMarkAu Spelling and grammar are important
08:43 Nazca <tonsofpcs/#thegeekgroup> Nazca: you should identify before joining.... <--- I should be identified before joining :p
08:44 Nazca BotSteve: tell tonsofpcs <tonsofpcs/#thegeekgroup> Nazca: you should identify before joining.... <--- I should be identified before joining :p
08:44 BotSteve Nazca: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
08:44 einball 5 mins re
08:45 * einball slaps Nazca for bein a grammar nazi :D
08:45 einball *being
08:45 * Experimentonomen uploads a vid
08:48 * Experimentonomen just cranked up the bass and opened up the trrottle right up
08:49 einball Experimentonomen: Well ... I just want to learn. And besides from reading books you can learn such things very well at university.
08:49 einball It would take ages to learn that stuff at home :)
08:49 einball Well .. see you in 2 or 3 hours :)
08:50 DruidicRifleman LOL
08:50 DruidicRifleman cprossu and i think eshermight of actually designed the lab
08:51 dr_jkl o.o
08:51 DruidicRifleman He was alive when it was built
08:51 angy dr_jkl! hello!
08:52 DruidicRifleman And lived in chicago
08:52 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71B2KWPa5Hg
08:52 BotSteve Title: Stereo amp test - YouTube
08:52 dr_jkl oh, merde
08:52 dr_jkl angy is here
08:52 dr_jkl alors! how are you angy
08:53 angy tired and using a fu*ked up windows computer, and you?
08:53 Nazca einball: actually no, I was saying that I should be identified, he's saying I'm not
08:55 dr_jkl cest fume un pipe.
08:55 Nazca BotSteve: tell tonsofpcs In case of confusion: I'm saying that my client is indeed supposed to identify me, not that your grammar is wrong (This addendum is partly sponsored by the "einball for irc user of the year award" campaign)
08:55 BotSteve Nazca: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
08:55 dr_jkl and shortly, sleep
08:57 angy :)
09:00 dr_jkl mmm
09:00 dr_jkl yup
09:00 dr_jkl sleep time
09:00 angy night jkl
09:01 dr_jkl ini
09:03 Seroster-school Power point presentations today
09:03 Seroster-school Derpely derp
09:03 angy-away crash the computer
09:05 Seroster-school Im thinking about making a logic circuit within power point
09:06 Seroster-school Like a  1024 by 1024 grid of boxes, and the boxes you hover over light up.
09:06 angy-away that can be fun, and annoying to use as a background
09:08 * Experimentonomen looks at Nazca
09:12 Seroster-school Or ill just make a boring fucking ppp
09:12 Seroster-school Supposed to be 8 pictures, one diagram and one flowchart
09:12 Seroster-school Any topic except for pr0nz
09:13 angy that left a lot of disturbing topics to cover
09:15 angy you should cover electrical fatalities
09:15 * Nazca looks at Experimentonomen
09:15 Seroster-school No porn or discrimitory pictures
09:15 Monkeh|Lap angy: Or power tool accidents.
09:15 Seroster-school Ha
09:16 Seroster-school lathe accidents
09:16 Seroster-school =D
09:16 Monkeh|Lap Yep, those're good.
09:16 Seroster-school Or autopsies
09:16 Monkeh|Lap Circular saws also produce nice pictures.
09:16 Seroster-school OH yes
09:16 angy I may send you picture for the autopsies part :)
09:16 Monkeh|Lap Seroster-school: 'work-related injuries'
09:17 Experimentonomen i wouldent use a table saw unless it was made by SawStop
09:17 angy nah, he won't be able to do it only with 8 picture
09:17 Seroster-school Lol
09:17 Seroster-school Experimentonomen: sparkyprojects shouldnt either
09:17 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: I would and have. They're overly expensive and availability is.. well, what availability?
09:19 Experimentonomen well uf u ever used one u know its near impossible to get hurt on those, u may feel like a bug lands on your finger/hand as the machine makes a "SLAM" as it throws the blade down underneath the table
09:20 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: I know exactly how they work.
09:20 Monkeh|Lap Experimentonomen: I also know I wouldn't waste the blade and cartridge testing one out.
09:20 Monkeh|Lap Not at those prices.
09:21 Experimentonomen i've seen too many work related injuries and deaths to use power tools without safety features
09:22 Monkeh|Lap Yeah, well, if you want to make them available to the rest of the world at a reasonable price..
09:22 Monkeh|Lap Me, I'll just pay attention to what I'm doing.
09:22 DruidicRifleman Cprossu?
09:24 Experimentonomen my woodshop teacher at school actually got hurt by the table saw during a lession, luckily it it only required a bandaid
09:25 Experimentonomen and that wasent the only incident, i alu heard he shaved off a bit of a finger with the planer in the same shop once
09:56 Seroster-school Tard
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10:26 Coderjoe Experimentonomen: sounds like a shop teacher that should be out of a job
10:29 Experimentonomen well he was close to retirement and the machines were very old like 40-50 years old
10:29 Experimentonomen no safety what so ever
10:30 Monkeh Experimentonomen: So long as they're functioning correctly, safety is down to the user.
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10:54 BitViper ok i dont know who chris is trying to explain binary to in monday's video, but she should have beat the crap out of him
10:56 Sgt_Lemming grrr, fucking game
10:57 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: ?
10:57 Sgt_Lemming Playing SupCom and just getting into it and starting to get my forces really cranking out
10:57 Sgt_Lemming and it crashed
10:57 Monkeh hehe
10:58 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: SC was too ambitious. Shame, because if they did it again right now it'd work great.
10:58 Sgt_Lemming eh, I like it
10:58 BitViper and he's mixing and matching bits and bytes too
10:58 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yeah, it just doesn't work right.
10:58 Sgt_Lemming it works well on my hardware, just the occasional crash
10:58 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Too much for old hardware, doesn't multithread for new hardware.
10:59 Sgt_Lemming yeah, Forged Alliance does improve things somewhat
10:59 Monkeh Not enough though :/
11:00 Monkeh It adds a lot of GPU load without really improving CPU load enough
11:03 Sgt_Lemming been meaning to play SupCom II at some stage, but a lot of what I have read about isn't very complimentary
11:04 Sgt_Lemming oh and as for GPU load, GTX570 handles it running two monitors maxed out completely
11:04 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: It's um.. SC meets 14 year olds and the Japs.
11:04 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: Yes, and that's what, four, five generations past what was around when SC came out?
11:04 Sgt_Lemming 1920 x 1200 on one monitor, 1600 x 1200 on the other
11:04 Monkeh Even my hardware is generations newer.
11:05 Sgt_Lemming yeah, but TA did the same
11:05 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I don't care if TA did the same, I have an expensive computer two generations newer than SC and it still doesn't work right.
11:05 Sgt_Lemming it works fine for me, apart from the odd crash
11:05 Monkeh Your computer is generations newer than mine
11:05 Sgt_Lemming I have had no performance related issues at all in SC, even in games with  8000 units on screen
11:05 Monkeh Which btw runs EVERYTHING fine, except SC, which bogs down too easily.
11:06 Sgt_Lemming I'd rather they program for coming hardware, and thus make it awesome for years, than program for current hardware and make it playable but dull
11:06 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: THey did. They still got it wrong.
11:07 Monkeh I HAVE the 'coming' hardware.
11:08 CaptainNiobe evening all :)
11:08 roadran422|zZz Morning yall
11:09 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, it's 4 generations at best between the game and hardware, more likely 3
11:09 BitViper bah humbug to both of ya
11:09 Sgt_Lemming game came out mid 2007, my video card came out early 2k11
11:10 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I love the game, don't get me wrong.
11:10 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I just wish it worked properly on my still perfectly good hardware which was overkill when the game came out.
11:10 Sgt_Lemming what card have you got Monkeh?
11:11 Monkeh These days, a GTX280
11:11 Monkeh Runs almost anything, even new games, on high. Struggles with FA, but I can deal with that
11:11 Sgt_Lemming lol!
11:11 Monkeh It's the CPU which is the problem.
11:11 Sgt_Lemming what cpu?
11:11 Monkeh Q9450 at 3.2GHz.
11:11 Monkeh Only GTA4 has ever stressed it, other than SC.
11:12 Monkeh Well, and Skyrim, but that's because they built the game with compiler optimisations turned off..
11:13 Sgt_Lemming what res monitor are you running Monkeh?
11:14 Sgt_Lemming my previous machine, a QX9650, GTX280 and 4GB ram struggled to run FA and lots of other games at full detail,  but that's cause of the huge monitor I use
11:14 Sgt_Lemming tone down the res, and things were fine
11:15 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: 1680x1050.
11:15 Monkeh I've toyed with a secondary card for a full-screen map a few times, that'd be awesome, but the CPU load will kill that idea anyway.
11:17 Sgt_Lemming I've always run secondary map, one of my favourite things about the game
11:18 Monkeh I can't do it reasonably thanks to their inability to optimise properly.
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11:32 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, all you need to avoid injury on a table saw is this thing called common sense :P
11:36 roadran422 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMWi7CLoZ2Q&amp;feature=share
11:36 BotSteve Title: Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom Nom - Parry Gripp - YouTube
11:38 tehdark45 youtube is a strange place
11:38 tehdark45 Especially when you put Boden and Kidwell in the same video
11:38 roadran422 lol
11:38 tehdark45 kik
11:39 tehdark45 lol*
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11:40 tehdark45 So roadran422, you told your parents you wana go to this place with these guys from the internet yet?
11:41 tehdark45 it is the Electricguy
11:41 Electricguy hi hi
11:41 Electricguy and brb
11:41 CaptainNiobe hey eg :)
11:43 tehdark45 It CaptainNiobe
11:43 tehdark45 It's*
11:43 CaptainNiobe it's tehdark45! :D
11:44 tehdark45 Woot 4 n3t sp11t!
11:44 CaptainNiobe lol...
11:44 CaptainNiobe i'm glad i didn't go this time lol
11:45 tehdark45 it seems only the lurkers got splited
11:46 CaptainNiobe lol... naughty lurker server :P
11:46 tehdark45 lol
11:47 tehdark45 Why are there so many Aus members?
11:47 tehdark45 lol
11:47 CaptainNiobe because we rock? :D
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11:47 BotSteve Cookies, Sandwiches, Skittles, Oh my!
11:48 Monkeh CaptainNiobe: Because you've got nothing else to do out there. ;)
11:48 CaptainNiobe HAHA! we aren't *that* low-tech! :P
11:48 tehdark45 Monkeh, there aint much more to do in the UK
11:48 tehdark45 :P
11:49 tehdark45 You can... Drink tea?
11:49 Monkeh CaptainNiobe: No, just stuck out in a barren country we picked specifically to be a PRISON ISLAND! :P
11:49 CaptainNiobe more than 200 years ago, Monkeh, more than 200 years ago... lol...
11:49 Monkeh CaptainNiobe: :)
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11:50 tehdark45 I know what Monkeh is refrencing
11:50 tehdark45 Wait nvm
11:50 tehdark45 lol
11:51 CaptainNiobe teh fact australia *did* start life as the island used to establish a penal colony? lol
11:54 tehdark45 The only problem with aus is the rediculous living costs
11:55 CaptainNiobe but i understand our minimum wage is also higher...
11:55 tehdark45 15. Only 5 more than Canada (BC at least)
11:58 tehdark45 But compared to america >.>
11:59 tehdark45 you guys are trillionaires
11:59 tehdark45 lol
11:59 CaptainNiobe lol
12:01 tehdark45 Wow, MT is $4.00
12:01 CaptainNiobe ?
12:01 tehdark45 Montanna
12:01 CaptainNiobe oh
12:02 tehdark45 Y u no your state abbrivations? :P
12:02 CaptainNiobe because i'm in australia? :P
12:02 tehdark45 Poor excuse
12:03 tehdark45 I am not in ameirica
12:03 tehdark45 :P
12:03 CaptainNiobe seriously though, never really had reason to learn them...
12:03 tehdark45 Well if you go there
12:04 tehdark45 maybe it will help
12:04 CaptainNiobe if i do i'll have to know them...
12:04 tehdark45 Do you know Michigan at least>
12:04 tehdark45 ?*
12:04 CaptainNiobe mi
12:04 tehdark45 ok
12:04 tehdark45 lol
12:04 CaptainNiobe lol
12:04 tehdark45 where is BC?
12:05 CaptainNiobe british columbia
12:05 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, so you know Canada but not US? lol
12:05 CaptainNiobe i had to think about it for a second to get it lol
12:05 tehdark45 Woo thinking
12:06 CaptainNiobe ... lol
12:06 tehdark45 It's why your're here isn't it?
12:06 CaptainNiobe ?
12:06 tehdark45 thinking
12:06 Experimentonomen and now we have full 2.1 channel mode
12:07 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, random much?
12:07 CaptainNiobe blame SparkyProjects for getting me into tgg... AND BLAME CHRIS FOR RUNNING A LAN PARTY AT KZOO! :P when your mouth starts watering over all that hardware, you KNOW you're a geek! :D
12:07 tehdark45 Lol
12:08 tehdark45 Isn't sparky in UK?
12:08 Electronics Wales
12:08 CaptainNiobe yes, he is
12:08 tehdark45 So how do you know him? Steam?
12:09 Experimentonomen tehdark45, huh?
12:09 CaptainNiobe oh, hell no, sparky doesn't play games... we've known each other for around 6 years... i made friends with him on one of the forums he moderates...
12:09 tehdark45 i'm talking to CaptainNiobe >.<
12:09 tehdark45 ah
12:10 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, kissing up to moderators huh? :P
12:10 CaptainNiobe nope :) he's a great guy...
12:11 tehdark45 So why are you so afraid of a simple table saw Experimentonomen?
12:14 Monkeh tehdark45: People might hurt themselves if the big nasty cutting tool doesn't protect them from their own stupidity!!!
12:14 Experimentonomen blade with sharp teeth spinning around at 5000+ rpm
12:14 tehdark45 Monkeh, Thats what we call natural selection :P
12:15 Monkeh Experimentonomen: Yeah, mine's handheld :P
12:15 Monkeh And no, they're not sharp.
12:15 tehdark45 Monkeh, then it is not a table saw >.>
12:15 Monkeh tehdark45: No, it's actually more dangerous.
12:15 Experimentonomen it happens that table saws sometimes spit the work piece back at the user which can hurt just as much as getting ur hand into the blade
12:15 Monkeh tehdark45: You just don't hear about the accidents so often because people tend to be more careful with them..
12:16 tehdark45 Thats whats called cutting skew Experimentonomen
12:16 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, unless you mean kickback, in that case it the wood binding, hitting the table with force and flying back at you
12:18 Monkeh tehdark45: When that happens with a circular saw, it's the whole saw which comes flying at you :P
12:18 tehdark45 But the point is, use it right, and you will be fine
12:18 Monkeh Yep.
12:18 Monkeh Only power tool I've ever had hurt me was faulty.
12:19 tehdark45 It's the same as the licking the MOT thing a couple days ago
12:19 Experimentonomen and table saws are just too loud
12:19 Monkeh Experimentonomen: ..
12:19 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, never visit the lab, it's loud too
12:19 tehdark45 :P
12:20 Monkeh Try a factory.
12:20 tehdark45 Also any decent woodshop has magic things called hearing protection
12:21 * Monkeh introduces Experimentonomen to large compressors
12:21 tehdark45 errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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12:22 Monkeh tehdark45: errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?
12:23 tehdark45 Monkeh, compressor filling up
12:23 tehdark45 :P
12:23 Monkeh tehdark45: heh
12:24 * Experimentonomen watches the subwoofer flop
12:25 tehdark45 floppy flop
12:34 Dibblah So, everyone looking forward to free day? :)
12:34 Dibblah http://www.sparkfun.com/news/780#comment-4f0c6bcdce395f6a2e000000
12:34 BotSteve Title: Free Day is Tomorrow! - News - SparkFun Electronics
12:35 Dibblah ("Does bombarding the Sparkfun office with radiation increase or decrease the rate at which prizes are given out? :)")
12:36 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/SUVZM.jpg
12:36 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/Uza3n.jpg
12:42 tehdark45 is that yours
12:44 Experimentonomen yes
12:44 tehdark45 and you are afraid of table saws? :P
12:45 Experimentonomen ?
12:45 tehdark45 that has potential to be dangerous
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12:45 BotSteve Ponko is credit to team!
12:46 * Ponko does the Ponko post game walk off celebration
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12:50 dbshortwave mm
12:50 dbshortwave mm intresting
12:51 Experimentonomen g'day dbshortwave
12:51 dbshortwave morning Experimentonomen
12:51 Ponko *uses german accent* very interesting
12:52 dbshortwave i need to think about changing this amp
12:52 dbshortwave its pissing my police scanner off
12:53 Experimentonomen hm
12:53 Ponko oh?
12:53 dbshortwave yeah
12:53 dbshortwave 45.4400 its agervating
12:53 Ponko ahh
12:54 Ponko that is agrevating
12:55 dbshortwave ive got a smaller amp thats just as powerful but it has more sheilding
12:55 Ponko hmm
12:55 Experimentonomen class d amp ?
12:56 dbshortwave audio
12:56 Experimentonomen class d is audio, pwm amp
12:56 dbshortwave the mosfet
12:56 Ponko no harm in trying
12:56 dbshortwave or move the sealed leads off the damn thing
12:57 dbshortwave lol
12:57 Experimentonomen a linear amplifier cannot interfere with a radio scanner, unless your overloading its audio output making iot distort
12:58 dbshortwave i moved them and no more noise
12:58 dbshortwave its a car amp walmart type on a 20 amp power supply
12:59 dbshortwave and im nowhere near distortion
12:59 Experimentonomen well car amps has a switchmode power supply in them, usually poorly made wioth little to no attention to EMI
13:00 dbshortwave yeah
13:00 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, my latest: http://i.imgur.com/Uza3n.jpg
13:01 dbshortwave http://www.audiosavings.com/mainstreet/get_image.aspx?domain=audiosavings.com&amp;image_guid=ae64c006-852c-4116-8670-503dee9496d4&amp;size=2
13:01 dbshortwave i remember seeing that one ^.^
13:01 Experimentonomen 200w, pfff my subamp does more than that :P
13:01 dbshortwave yeah i know
13:01 dbshortwave im running 2 towers
13:01 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/SUVZM.jpg
13:02 dbshortwave it sounds ok for what im doing
13:02 dbshortwave HAHAHAHA you got the same soldering station
13:02 dbshortwave velleman
13:03 dbshortwave VTSSC40N
13:03 Experimentonomen except mine doesent say velleman on it
13:03 dbshortwave no?
13:04 yNos hiya all
13:05 Experimentonomen mine sez Z something on it
13:06 dbshortwave i need to bring my tube amps up stairs
13:06 dbshortwave i need more heat
13:06 dbshortwave lol
13:07 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btSg2SX3lUs :P
13:07 BotSteve Title: 1kW Philips EL6471 Tube Amplifier from 1955 demonstrates its original sound - listen! - YouTube
13:09 yNos Cprossu: cat 3 would be fine for phone or video. is it flat satin or round?
13:09 * Experimentonomen downloads 2 movies
13:11 sndwrx What is a "Walmart type" car stereo amp?
13:11 Experimentonomen sndwrx, cheap jank caramp sold at wallyworld :P
13:11 sndwrx I gathered that.
13:11 sndwrx I'm curious in what brand, specifically.
13:12 Experimentonomen the cheap ones are usually noname
13:12 sndwrx I still have an amp from '97, granted it wasn't purchased from Walmart.
13:12 Experimentonomen generic chinese crap
13:12 sndwrx I've never seen a no-name at Walmart.  Chintzy, yes, but not no-name.
13:12 sndwrx Jensen (back in the day), Dual, Pioneer, etc.
13:14 dbshortwave dont get me wrong this amp looks jank but it sounds good
13:14 dbshortwave for running flat
13:14 sndwrx What is it?
13:14 dbshortwave it pumps out the same watts as a tube amp lol
13:14 dbshortwave VR3
13:14 sndwrx Alpine?
13:14 sndwrx Or was that VR2...  Been too many years, I guess.  Can't remember now.
13:15 sndwrx Not uncommon for knock-offs to take similar model names as [slightly] better amps.
13:15 sndwrx Correction:  commonly known names.
13:15 dbshortwave i can do some searching to figure it out
13:16 sndwrx Virtual Reality
13:16 sndwrx Awesome.
13:16 sndwrx V12
13:16 sndwrx It was Alpinne V12 that I was trying to think of.
13:16 sndwrx minus the extra 'n'.
13:16 sndwrx Fingers still making friends with muscles this morning.
13:18 sndwrx My Soundstream from 1997 has been in six cars.
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13:18 dbshortwave sony?
13:18 dbshortwave really?
13:18 dbshortwave wait what?
13:19 sndwrx And it ran off a 7.5A power supply for several months.  Obviously it couldn't be turned up very high.
13:19 dbshortwave All VR3 car audio products (speakers, amplifiers and other devices) are made by Sony. These are made in the same factory that makes the Xplod series of car audio products. They are simply re-branded with VR3 logos. The car stereos have a different faceplate design than their Sony counterparts.
13:19 dbshortwave You can open any VR3 amplifier or deck and see similar, if not identical PCB's as the Sony counterpart as well if you are not sure about a particular item.
13:19 dbshortwave Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_makes_Virtual_reality_sound_labs_vr3_headphones#ixzz1j9hPONHy
13:19 sndwrx Not Sony.  Soundstream.
13:19 dbshortwave .
13:19 BotSteve Title: Who makes Virtual reality sound labs vr3 headphones
13:19 sndwrx Oh, ah.
13:19 sndwrx Xplod blow.
13:20 sndwrx But yeah there aren't very many different manufacturers and/or factories for the majority of car audio products.
13:21 dbshortwave i knew that Ford car stereos some of the older once were Pioneer
13:21 dbshortwave dodge was alpine
13:21 dbshortwave i think
13:21 * sndwrx yearns for old PPI equipment.
13:21 sndwrx Chrysler products had Inifity.
13:21 sndwrx Infinity*
13:21 dbshortwave the new stuff
13:21 sndwrx Right, last 15 or so years.
13:22 sndwrx Infinity is a division of Harmon Kardon.
13:22 dbshortwave i knew of a t-bird that had infinity's in them
13:22 sndwrx Seems like I remember Alpine in the older ones.
13:22 dbshortwave good luck on chevy lol delco held there own for a bit
13:23 sndwrx Right
13:23 dbshortwave it still could be delco
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13:23 sndwrx Until they started slapping Bose in the higher-end vehicles.
13:23 * sndwrx groans.
13:23 dbshortwave caddys with bose
13:24 dbshortwave mitzus had there own
13:24 sndwrx Oh the days of kids bringing a car into my shop with a hacked off deck plug.
13:24 dbshortwave i think Delco did forToyota
13:24 sndwrx and a few blown fuses.
13:25 sndwrx I know Audiovox made Toyota for a while.
13:25 dbshortwave LOL ahhh the old days
13:25 * sndwrx nods.
13:25 sndwrx I don't miss that so much.
13:25 dbshortwave now if you hack the plug off the car is disabled till you replace that plug lol
13:25 sndwrx But I do miss having a garage, for starters, and I miss the nice systems and remote starters.
13:26 sndwrx Oh man then GM first started a databus system and ran the door chime through the deck, among other things...
13:26 sndwrx You had to relocate the stock deck and wire it elsewhere in the vehicle, if you wanted an aftermarket deck.
13:26 sndwrx s/deck/head unit
13:27 dbshortwave oh i know
13:28 dbshortwave dodge ran the clock and some other system info through the radio
13:28 dbshortwave jeep Cherokee was noted for that
13:29 dbshortwave depending on model and year
13:29 dr_jkl nghp
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13:29 dbshortwave my mom has the 98 with the last of the V8's for that kinda toy
13:29 sndwrx Hmm, don't remember that between the early or mid-'90s through early 2000s.
13:30 dbshortwave radio was set up to where you need a box to disable it
13:30 sndwrx In a '98?
13:30 dbshortwave yep it could be a 99
13:30 * dr_jkl drinks half a gallon of water and goes back to bed
13:30 sndwrx I never encountered that and I put quite a few decks in them.
13:30 dbshortwave ill ask her the year next time i call her
13:31 sndwrx Put a lot more remote starters and alarms in them though.
13:31 sndwrx night dr_jkl
13:31 dbshortwave this is the limited
13:31 dr_jkl i dont need a hangover lol
13:31 sndwrx I know the Grand Cherokees were notorious for tripping the factory alarm when remote starting, despite activating the disarm wire.
13:32 einball1 uff
13:32 sndwrx I probably installed at least 300 remote starters in that model.
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13:33 Experimentonomen g'day mash
13:33 einball1 Experimentonomen: back ;)
13:33 mashpriborintorg hi
13:33 Experimentonomen wb ein
13:34 sndwrx mornin' guys.
13:34 mashpriborintorg still at home because of sickness, it gets better tho
13:34 Experimentonomen ein, did u see the pics i posted a while ago ?
13:38 dbshortwave thats like the 5th time i spazed the cat out today
13:38 dbshortwave her tail is huge
13:38 dbshortwave lol
13:38 sndwrx Aww, adorable puffy tail.
13:38 einball1 :)
13:39 sndwrx I know it's probably hell on their nervous system, but I think it's cute when they do that.
13:39 sndwrx haha.
13:39 dbshortwave its funny as hell to catch her off guard
13:39 dbshortwave but something is up
13:39 dbshortwave shes not normally like this
13:41 Experimentonomen ein, u live in uni dorms, no ?
13:42 einball1 Experimentonomen: nope. Otherwise I'd not ride home for 1.5h :)
13:42 einball1 -for
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13:49 * yNos shares the coffee luv
13:50 dbshortwave damn good coffee
13:50 * einball1 hands a coffee over to yNos and dbshortwave
13:51 dbshortwave thanks
13:51 * mashpriborintorg will take some vegetables soup instead
13:53 yNos not tea?
13:56 mashpriborintorg I've been sick, only soup can resurrect me :p
13:57 Experimentonomen ¨coffee = liquid shit :P
13:58 tonsofpcs hey, don't insult shit like that!
13:58 BotSteve tonsofpcs: I have the following messages for you:
13:58 BotSteve At 08:44Z, Nazca asked me to tell tonsofpcs <tonsofpcs/#thegeekgroup> Nazca: you should identify before joining.... <--- I should be identified before joining :p
13:58 einball1 hrhr
13:59 tonsofpcs also, BatSteve-Away, BotSteve failed to tell me what Nazca asked for him to.
14:00 tonsofpcs 03:55:31 < Nazca> BotSteve: tell tonsofpcs In case of confusion: I'm saying that my client is indeed supposed to identify me, not that your grammar is wrong (This addendum is partly sponsored by the "einball for irc user of the year award" campaign)
14:00 tonsofpcs 03:55:31 <+BotSteve> Nazca: I'll pass that on when tonsofpcs is around.
14:01 einball1 Wow ... It have been almost 4 days since my first arrival here and there's already a campaign running for me?
14:01 * einball1 is amazed
14:01 Sgt_Lemming "The world is a fine place, and worth fighting for... I agree with the 2nd part" <--- a cookie to the person who can name the movie
14:02 Experimentonomen einball1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71B2KWPa5Hg
14:02 BotSteve Title: Stereo amp test - YouTube
14:03 einball1 Experimentonomen: your place is so incredible messy
14:03 einball1 (but I like it <3)
14:03 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/SUVZM.jpg
14:04 Sgt_Lemming <Experimentonomen> ¨coffee = liquid awesome:P <--- fixed for great truth
14:05 mashpriborintorg Experimentonomen you still have videocassettes ? :p
14:05 Experimentonomen Sgt_Lemming, coffee is the worst foul tasting crap i ever tasted in my life
14:06 mashpriborintorg I throw mine away back in 2005 when my last vcr died
14:06 Experimentonomen mash, yes i do :P
14:06 einball1 I really like your place Experimentonomen :)
14:06 einball1 And the amp, too
14:06 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, then you've only had foul tasting crap coffee, good cofee is AWESOME
14:06 Experimentonomen i hate coffee
14:08 dbshortwave instant coffee = CRAP
14:09 Experimentonomen einball1, that amp looks like jank though, need to fix xome kinda chassi
14:10 mashpriborintorg yeah, it is not wife compliant, once intalled in the living room
14:10 einball1 Who cares about the wife?
14:11 einball1 At least last year no female entered my room :D
14:11 Experimentonomen ¨my living room is my lab :P
14:11 einball1 my room is my lab :D
14:12 Sgt_Lemming the hackerspace is my lab :-P
14:12 einball1 Well, its a workshop with a little place to sleep
14:12 Sgt_Lemming I do design here, but any physical stuff I normally do at the space
14:13 Experimentonomen hm
14:14 Experimentonomen it kinda feels like someone is kicking my couch when i turn up the volume here
14:15 einball1 Errm, jip .. awesome feeling
14:15 Experimentonomen and thats withy the sub like 4m meters away
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14:16 einball1 hmm, Does not matter in my case :D
14:16 Experimentonomen hm
14:17 Experimentonomen http://s798.photobucket.com/albums/yy267/TheElectroNoob/?action=view&amp;current=004.jpg + 250 watt amp
14:17 BotSteve Title: 004.jpg picture by TheElectroNoob - Photobucket
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14:18 Experimentonomen einball1, i take it your subwoofer amp is atleast 500 watts worth of 19 inch rackmount PA power amplifier
14:18 einball1 err :P
14:18 einball1 I sold my 42U rack
14:18 einball1 Aswell as my small 22U rack
14:18 injektion I almost hit bambi this morning
14:19 Experimentonomen hm
14:19 einball1 So, actually it is a small amp, the optinoca
14:19 einball1 *optonica
14:19 injektion The deer was running along side the car and tried to get in front of me
14:19 einball1 but hey: 36watts hit my room hard :D
14:19 einball1 BUT it will be a Dynacord SL1200 as I get the money
14:20 Experimentonomen did u know that my amps havent costed me anything ? :P
14:20 injektion Damn deer
14:21 yNos they taste good..
14:21 einball1 Experimentonomen: Made from junk? That adds awesomness :d
14:21 einball1 +e
14:21 Experimentonomen all the power transistors in the 2.1 channel amp were freebies i got when i got some lateral mosfets ffrom a guy on a forum
14:22 injektion yNos: If I was to hit a deer I'd be depressed for a long time
14:22 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/bc15h.jpg
14:22 Experimentonomen injektion, my grandpa hit a deer once when driving me to school
14:22 dbshortwave http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=535030&amp;CatId=1410 wants2 plz
14:23 BotSteve Title: Acer S201HL bd 20 Widescreen LED Backlit Monitor - 1600x900, 16:9, 12000000:1 Dynamic, 5ms, Tilt, VGA, DVI (Refurbished) at TigerDirect.com
14:23 einball1 Experimentonomen: Hmm, well. I won't build an amp that size myself.
14:24 einball1 Either it won't work, or it will kill my sub OR it will heat up the room with its full power :D
14:24 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B2WTNuyyBg <-- im a bit worried this might happen for my neighbours iof i turn it up too loud for too long
14:24 BotSteve Title: Knock stuff down with loud music - YouTube
14:25 einball1 Experimentonomen: that happened already
14:25 Experimentonomen my subamp has protection against fryingn the sub, it also has a thermal shutdown but thats not wired up at this point
14:26 Experimentonomen einball1, u did that to ur neighbours ?
14:26 einball1 Experimentonomen: yup :>
14:27 injektion It would of been even worse if I was to hit the dear in my 25 year old 5 series
14:27 einball1 Well, what can I say? A 15" monster in a 230liter housing designed for PA application caged in a 16m² room (it's about 40 kilogram)
14:28 einball1 As I get my SL1200 I'll do another sub like that
14:29 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIs0OxkBgGY <-- heres a video of the rig in the previous vid
14:29 BotSteve Title: Progress Update On The EAW Subwoofers 6-18-11 - YouTube
14:29 Experimentonomen 500 watts a channel for the subs and 100 watts a channel for the main
14:30 Experimentonomen and no thats not my stuff
14:30 einball1 I just like huge amps :D
14:30 einball1 and Pa stuff
14:31 Experimentonomen my sub prolly sounds like a bouncing football compared to those 18" subs
14:31 injektion I need a new amp for my car. >_<
14:32 einball1 Hmm, well ... 18" subs are good for dubstep but most of them don't sound very good and play precise at kickbass or a low synth lead
14:32 einball1 15" is a good compromise
14:32 Experimentonomen einball1, speaking of huge amps, i have a 19 kilo amp headed my way rated at i think 2x200W a channel into 8 ohms
14:32 injektion I also need a new radio
14:32 Experimentonomen a Vincent SV233 im getting for free
14:33 einball1 Eww, I had such an amp .. It was from Zeck .. I just love that stuff :)
14:33 einball1 19" rackmount and HEAVY AS HELL :D
14:33 einball1 quite oldschool A/B
14:33 einball1 Experimentonomen: Truly like that
14:33 einball1 :)
14:33 Experimentonomen this vincent amp is actually at the home high end audio side rather than PA
14:34 einball1 The thing I love about my sub is that it supports my hifi speakers and delivers good pressure at low sound levels due to its huge airspace compared to the hifi speakers
14:34 Experimentonomen ein, take some pics of ur stuff :PÖ
14:34 einball1 Experimentonomen: You've seen it already!?
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14:36 Experimentonomen ein, i only remember a pic of a slim amp
14:36 * dbshortwave|awy is away: I'm busy
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14:38 einball1 Experimentonomen: http://h12.abload.de/img/img_7207iur8.jpg http://h12.abload.de/img/img_72061u7t.jpg http://h12.abload.de/img/img_7325julx.jpg http://h13.abload.de/img/img_73455vckk.jpg http://abload.de/img/img_3717z9zx.jpg http://h13.abload.de/img/img_36729fjl.jpg (actually this was my hobby before
14:38 einball1 Enought?
14:39 einball1 Chris never saw CAT7? :o
14:39 Experimentonomen watz drivin teh sub ?
14:40 einball1 Experimentonomen: http://www.hifi-wiki.de/index.php/Optonica_SM-5100
14:40 BotSteve Title: Optonica SM-5100 | Hifi-Wiki.de
14:42 Experimentonomen that amp is about the same power as the stereo channels on my 2.1 amp project
14:43 einball1 It's enough to beat the shit out of my head
14:44 Experimentonomen i imagine ur sub is playing the full 20Hz to 20kHz unless u have a lowpass filter that combines both channels and filters away everything above 100Hz or somethin
14:44 einball1 I've watched the prequel for the X-Men and it was like ... OMG EVERYTHING VIBRATES
14:44 einball1 About 6db falloff below 40hz
14:45 Experimentonomen the input of my subamp has a filter like this on it: http://i.imgur.com/i05r5.png
14:45 einball1 I use the subout from my other amp driving the hifi speakers
14:46 injektion Does anyone know if they still have car stereos with weather band?
14:46 einball1 I get a STM32 development board where I implement a Lowpass
14:46 einball1 I suppose it's butterworth
14:46 Experimentonomen just a standard sallen key filter
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14:47 injektion The car was built in Germany and has a Japanese radio :/
14:47 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/9UU4a.png <-- AND THE CIR OF THE AMP ITSELF
14:47 Experimentonomen oops caps
14:47 Experimentonomen :/
14:48 Experimentonomen guten morgen miss wannabe1987
14:48 wannabe1987 hi Experimentonomen.  hows irc today?
14:48 Experimentonomen chatty ;)
14:48 wannabe1987 good!
14:49 Experimentonomen im annoying einball1 with my diy audio crap
14:49 Experimentonomen *:P
14:49 einball1 oh ah I see Experimentonomen :)
14:49 injektion I want another BMW factory radio keep the appearance of the interior looking nice
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14:49 wannabe1987 einball1, you has a tail-like thing again.....
14:49 wannabe1987 hi injektion
14:49 injektion Hi wannabe1987
14:49 wannabe1987 how have you been?
14:49 injektion Good
14:50 einball1 wannabe1987: I like tails <3
14:50 einball mni tnx :)
14:50 wannabe1987 are you a furry as well?
14:50 einball Err .. maybe a bit?
14:50 einball :3
14:50 wannabe1987 lol
14:50 injektion The radio needs replaced, the amp needs to be replaced, all of the ITT made speakers need replaced
14:50 einball replace the car :)
14:51 einball What brand is it?
14:51 injektion BMW
14:51 einball lol :D
14:51 injektion It's a 1987 BMW 535is 5speed
14:51 sndwrx I hate updating resume.
14:51 wannabe1987 he's not going to replace his car
14:51 wannabe1987 you applying for work?
14:52 injektion I love it too much to get something else
14:52 injektion The only thing I'd replace it with is another BMW
14:52 sndwrx wannabe1987: Thought I'd apply for the A/V position at church.  Would probably be just a few hours every other week or so.
14:53 wannabe1987 what church?
14:53 wannabe1987 thats cool.
14:53 Experimentonomen einball, wut i look like: http://i.imgur.com/k8wah.jpg i rarely use headphones though
14:53 sndwrx wannabe1987: Mostly just so I can keep it up to date, though, since it's been a couple years since I've updated it and I've worked on some /very cool/ projects.
14:53 wannabe1987 keeping things up to date is good.  sounds like a good thing.
14:53 wannabe1987 i used to help run the projector screens at church....but now my work schedule is erratic, so i can't, really
14:53 injektion It's been the most reliable car I have ever owned. I've had it over a year and I have not had any electrical faults, odd engine stalling, etc. unlike the ford I had
14:54 einball mmmh, closed headphones .. *like*
14:54 sndwrx I'm trying to get obnoxious and see how an infographic style resume works for me.
14:54 einball I like headphones because they respond very well to bass
14:54 wannabe1987 infographic?
14:54 Experimentonomen i need to build an amp to thoe 8 ohm headphones though
14:55 sndwrx wannabe1987: That's basically what this position will be, in addition to running the soundboard.  I primarily just want my foot in the door to help with some things that I see need work.
14:55 wannabe1987 thats a good reason to wanting a job at church.
14:55 einball Experimentonomen: PowerOpAmp :3
14:55 Experimentonomen i prefer discrete amplifiers for power
14:55 sndwrx It's easier to be taken seriously when you're employed by them, even if it is only a couple hours now and then.  ;)
14:56 injektion That ford I had is what made me hate fords and American cars
14:56 yNos ajprog_laptop: you in the lab yet?
14:56 * wannabe1987 hides her ford from injektion
14:56 Experimentonomen power opamps or chipamps or gainclones as their called are just meh
14:56 wannabe1987 sndwrx: true
14:56 sndwrx My only concern is that it will distract from my current endeavours.
14:56 * injektion finds it and drops a piano on it. :P
14:56 einball Experimentonomen: Well, they are nice easy and fast to build. And why not? I mean .. you don't wear any headphones at all :)
14:57 wannabe1987 possibly, if your thinking of upgrading them you might not be as focused on the stuff for the library
14:57 * wannabe1987 calls her dad and says "don't buy the struts"
14:57 sndwrx Library is wrapping up here soon.
14:57 wannabe1987 hey, its getting fixed this weekend...i'll be able to drive normally :D
14:57 wannabe1987 and i won't feel every bumb!
14:57 einball Experimentonomen: btw thats me ^^ http://h8.abload.de/img/picture0005thnh.jpg
14:57 wannabe1987 thats cool.  whats next?
14:57 injektion I like feeling bumps
14:57 wannabe1987 you has toast
14:58 einball jip :D
14:58 yNos BotSteve: tell ajprog_laptop when you get in, please tell me what switchport the nbx100 is plugged into..
14:58 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when ajprog_laptop is around.
14:58 wannabe1987 wtf did you do to your toast
14:58 einball That's Mr T.
14:58 Experimentonomen einball, i see ur toater was in a good mood :D
14:58 einball Actually it was the hot air soldering station :P
14:59 Experimentonomen oki
14:59 injektion wannabe1987: If I ever get up to MI I should take you for a ride on a bumpy road
14:59 wannabe1987 you should.  i'd like to be in a bmw sometime
14:59 einball http://h10.abload.de/img/img_6448yoth.jpg XCO design :D
14:59 wannabe1987 i know quite a few roads around the lab that are horrific
15:00 Experimentonomen i've ridden in a bmw once
15:00 injektion I have sport shocks, M5 sl
15:00 injektion Springs
15:00 einball Err and that's my other hobby: http://h8.abload.de/img/img_59430tfp.jpg The needle just got stuck in my arm as I took this photo :P
15:01 injektion It rides hard and stiff
15:01 injektion You can feel every bump and pothole
15:02 wannabe1987 what are you putting in your arm via needle?
15:02 einball That's wine :D
15:02 Experimentonomen i dont like wine, tastes awful
15:02 wannabe1987 i know its wine
15:02 injektion <3 wine
15:02 wannabe1987 its nasty.  esp red wine
15:02 wannabe1987 but why put it in your arm?!
15:03 Experimentonomen only alcohol i drink is cheap beer from the grocery store
15:03 wannabe1987 ewwww
15:03 einball Well, we needed the setup for that test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPxS6DQm-24
15:03 BotSteve Title: Wine Glass Stop Motion First Try - YouTube
15:03 wannabe1987 piss in a can!
15:03 injektion It's not piss it's poison
15:04 wannabe1987 i dunno, tastes like piss might taste
15:04 einball (I just forgot to shut off the auto exposure time :( )
15:05 einball (I should remind myself that "just" does not refer to "merely" .. gnah)
15:07 wannabe1987 thats cool.  were you pouring it in?
15:08 einball We used the two glasses, filled the first and used the injection to fill the other glass up
15:08 einball took it from one to another. 222 shots for a complete fill
15:08 wannabe1987 you used injektion to fill up a glass?!  :P
15:09 injektion If you did that a few weeks ago...
15:09 einball I just tried to avoid this, but yes .. he is like a sponge .. squeeze him a bit to let him release the wine :)
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15:09 injektion I got punched in the kidneys real hard
15:10 einball Thats actually quite fun if it happens during a fight and you have to fight the second round :D
15:11 injektion That happened to me and I went to the hospital a
15:11 wannabe1987 :blink blink:  i wouldn't know...i don't fight
15:11 injektion wannabe1987: You don't want to know what happens
15:12 injektion When you get punched in the kidneys
15:12 wannabe1987 no, i don't like pain, so nope!
15:12 injektion You urinate blood
15:13 einball not necessarily injektion ;)
15:13 injektion I did
15:13 einball If they rupture then you have that problem
15:13 einball If they don't .. Its all just pain :D
15:13 einball but quite harmless
15:14 injektion I hate dealing with the US health system
15:15 injektion They know me by name
15:16 wannabe1987 whys that?  you there often?
15:17 injektion Yes and one of my ex's works there
15:18 wannabe1987 ah
15:18 injektion I don't want to talk about what goes on when he's working there
15:19 wannabe1987 thats ok.  you don't have to
15:20 injektion I wonder if I could charge a nurse with rape and or sexual harassment
15:20 wannabe1987 probably, if its documented
15:22 injektion When your in a hospital as patient your too vulnerable
15:22 wannabe1987 yeah.
15:30 BatSteve .seen tonsofpcs
15:30 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw tonsofpcs 1.50 hours ago at 2012-01-11 14:00:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 15:30:11 UTC
15:30 BatSteve tonsofpcs: Yes, that's a known BotSteve bug.  I'm sorry about that.
15:30 BatSteve I'm (slowly) working on getting it fixed.
15:30 wannabe1987 hi bats!
15:31 BatSteve https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve/issues/112
15:31 BotSteve Title: #112: tell only stores the first tell - Issues - Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve - GitHub
15:31 BatSteve hi kelly
15:31 Seroster SparkyProjects, you there?
15:32 Seroster Got a circulation motor, it got a termnial block with L N GND SSM
15:32 Seroster L live
15:32 Seroster N Neutral
15:32 Seroster Gnd,... go figure
15:32 Seroster But there is a wire to the SS and M terminals
15:32 Seroster (The SSM is written between two terminals=
15:32 Seroster Any idea what SSM means?
15:33 Seroster There is a plastic box with a heatsink on it attatched to the motor, I hope it is a VFD and it works, even if the motor is dead.
15:33 SparkyProjects Let me think
15:33 Electronics soft starter ...
15:33 Seroster It doesnt work when those two wires are not attatched to anything.
15:33 SparkyProjects make and model ?
15:34 Seroster Will shit get real if I short them? =P
15:34 Seroster WILO
15:34 SparkyProjects Don't short them
15:34 Seroster E 50 1-7 (speeds) PN10
15:35 Seroster .g WILO PN10 circuit diagram
15:35 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.wilo.com/cps/rde/xchg/en/layout.xsl/1013.htm
15:35 Seroster Yep thats the one
15:36 Electronics 3 speed settings, could be the different settings?
15:36 Seroster Hm
15:36 Seroster I think that the SSM might have gone to a control cabinet
15:37 Seroster I.E short it if you control the mains in, or pull a wire from it to a switch
15:41 wannabe-afk WORK TIEM o.O
15:42 yNos .lastseen ajprog_laptop
15:42 BotSteve yNos: I last saw ajprog_laptop 20.29 hours ago at 2012-01-10 19:25:46 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 15:42:55 UTC
15:44 SparkyProjects Seroster, download the pdf, look on page 104
15:44 SparkyProjects ssm = Collective fault signal (NC contact according to VDI
15:44 SparkyProjects 3814, load capacity 1 A, 250 V ~)
15:44 BitViper *yawn* *stretch* wheee, just in time for sparkfun free day
15:44 Seroster So... it should be shorted?
15:44 SparkyProjects looks like an output for fault monitoring
15:44 Seroster Hm
15:44 SparkyProjects nope
15:44 Seroster So... How does it work?
15:45 Seroster Its closed until the motor dies?
15:45 * SparkyProjects continues reading
15:46 SparkyProjects I think it's a heat sensor, and maybe a current sensor for overload, normally closed when operational and opens when faulty
15:46 SparkyProjects Meter it (ohms)
15:46 Seroster hm
15:48 SparkyProjects On other motors it would be simply a heat sensor, but as wilo also make other versions (electronic control etc), they marked the contacts so they combine any faults to a pair of terminals
15:49 Seroster Wich means this vfd might be fucked
15:49 SparkyProjects They do control units for soe of their pumps, so when used together those connections would make sense
15:50 SparkyProjects maybe
15:50 SparkyProjects or you're not 'driving' it properly
15:51 Seroster 11pins...
15:51 SparkyProjects try the pump without the vfd ?
15:52 Seroster 11pins
15:52 Seroster Might be three phase pump
15:52 BatSteve .minecraft
15:52 BotSteve BatSteve: Legacy TGG minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: UP
15:52 Seroster And I dont know wich pins to power
15:52 BotSteve BatSteve: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
15:52 SparkyProjects 11 pins on the pump ?
15:54 BatSteve .seen Cprossu
15:54 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw Cprossu 15.13 hours ago at 2012-01-11 00:46:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 15:54:22 UTC
15:54 BatSteve BotSteve: ask Cprossu which is correct for the minecraft server:  25565 or 25564 ?
15:54 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when Cprossu is around.
15:54 BatSteve thanks BotSteve.  I'm sorry your tell module is broke.
15:54 BotSteve Happy to help, BatSteve
15:55 Seroster 11pins from vfd to pump
15:55 Seroster Ill just have to measure them one by one
15:55 Seroster .c 11^11
15:55 BotSteve 285 311 670 611
15:56 Seroster wait
15:56 Seroster 1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10*11
15:56 Seroster That would be my possible connections
15:56 Seroster .c 1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9*10*11
15:56 BotSteve 39 916 800
15:58 SparkyProjects connectios should be marked
15:58 Seroster Should =! are
15:59 SparkyProjects even if the pump is 3 phase, there should be no ore than 3 + E + sensor = 6
16:00 SparkyProjects unless it's a huge pump, then there would be 3 extra phhase connections (star/delta)
16:00 Seroster Not THAT huge
16:00 Seroster I think one is ground
16:00 Seroster 2 are sensor
16:00 Seroster and the 8 other are two per coil
16:01 Seroster So if pin 1 and 2 are sensor and 3 is ground it might be power in pin4 pin 5-6 pin 7-8 pin 9-10 pin 11 neutral
16:01 Seroster Or, some other order.
16:02 Seroster Ill just connect the VFD to mains and measure if I have anything between any pins
16:02 Seroster After I go get dinner.
16:02 SparkyProjects some vfd's don't work without a load, but you can check anyway
16:04 Seroster With a little luck it got thrown out because of upgrades or because the impeller was rusted to shit
16:04 Seroster Or the windings burned
16:04 Seroster But I want that VFD alive!
16:04 SparkyProjects does it look like this ?
16:04 SparkyProjects http://www.wilo-select.net/?m=1&amp;sw=17&amp;name=TOP-E
16:04 Seroster ANyway, gonna go get a chicken for some salad
16:04 BotSteve Title: * TOP-E
16:04 Seroster Yeah
16:04 Seroster Cept for shroud around impeller
16:04 Seroster cya
16:05 SparkyProjects ok
16:08 tonsofpcs BatSteve-Away: botsteve is a known bug?!
16:08 * tonsofpcs is ok with not getting tells from botsteve, the highlight and /lastlog feature of my client are enough.  If you need to reach me when I'm not here, that's what memoserv is for
16:09 tonsofpcs there's no reason to recreate with a bot in a channel somethng that services and the base protocol provide....
16:09 tonsofpcs BatSteve-Away: ^
16:22 * dbshortwave is back (gone 01:46:28)
16:26 * tonsofpcs is gone (back)
16:27 dbshortwave lol
16:28 yNos lunchtime!
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16:32 * Experimentonomen watches the movie Volcano
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16:38 * Sgt_Lemming watches most recent captains blog
16:40 injektion Is youtube acting weird for anyone else?
16:40 Sgt_Lemming nope
16:40 Sgt_Lemming sparkfun site is struggling a bit though
16:40 injektion The  mobile site keeps having scripts that time out
16:41 dbshortwave nope
16:41 Sgt_Lemming i never use the mobile site
16:42 Sgt_Lemming much rather watch them on my pc or laptop
16:42 Sgt_Lemming and my phone has a native youtube client anyway
16:42 injektion I was using the iPhone YT client this morning and it was having issues too
16:46 Seroster The issue is that you were stupid enough to get an iphowned
16:48 Sgt_Lemming https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qatfPFQDv5s/Tw2AUE5HdxI/AAAAAAAACTY/pfnXn0HfJVY/s912/Untitled2.jpg <--- current project
16:50 injektion I love my iPhone Seroster so go die in a fire
16:51 Seroster Yeah, Hitler loved being a nazi
16:52 Seroster And he killed lots of people in fires.
16:52 Seroster URE WORSE THAN HITLER
16:52 injektion Comparing me to hitler?
16:53 Seroster ... Godwin is like hitler.
16:57 einball hitler?
16:57 einball Never fuck with him :D
16:58 * einball suffers from caffeine addiction
17:00 injektion I'm tired of explaining why I do not like android
17:00 injektion It's more because I dislike java so much
17:00 einball Then use apple devices .. they hate java too :D
17:01 injektion Try using a Solaris machine and open one of the GUI admin tools
17:01 * einball cranks up THE VOLUUUUMEEEE :):)
17:01 mashpriborintorg 3 billion devices use Java...
17:01 mashpriborintorg it's what they say during the boring upgrades
17:02 injektion I'd personally like android more if you could compile native apps in C or whatever for it
17:04 einball Experimentonomen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZc7FemIWrw *like*
17:04 BotSteve Title: Spor - Pacifica (Vocal Mix) - YouTube
17:05 einball try that with a large subwoofer :D
17:05 einball BotSteve: tell BotSteve hallo
17:05 BotSteve Sorry, I'm supposed to ignore any voices I hear in my head.
17:05 einball No tetris in his head?
17:07 dbshortwave my face... IS ON FIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
17:07 CaptainNiobe put it out?
17:07 dbshortwave hot hot hot hot
17:07 einball Play tetris while burning dbshortwave!
17:07 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmCCQxVBfyM
17:07 BotSteve Title: Original Tetris theme (Tetris Soundtrack) - YouTube
17:08 dbshortwave hot wings
17:09 Monkeh injektion: Yes, but it's Android or Apple.
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17:16 Experimentonomen amp has passed its first test with flying colors
17:18 einball flying colors ... fire? :D
17:19 * einball enters sentry mode
17:19 Experimentonomen i havent had 2.1 for movies in a long time
17:19 einball XD
17:19 einball "What? 5.1? CALL IT MONO BITCH!" :D
17:23 Experimentonomen einball, huh?
17:24 einball Its just like that :D
17:24 egrsteve|away mornign all
17:26 westmi where did speedrunner go?
17:26 westmi or, what happend to him?
17:27 westmi I havn't chatted with hin in like months...
17:27 injektion I don't even make enough to get unemployment http://goput.it/7jn.jpg
17:27 einball \o/ rice pudding
17:28 mashpriborintorg hi, egrsteve|away, I've seen a quite rugged DVR: http://cgi.ebay.fr/TRANSIT-MOBILE-BUS-SECURITY-DVS-1-VEHICLE-DVR-8CH-40GB-/290648527927?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item43ac009437
17:28 BotSteve Title: TRANSIT MOBILE BUS SECURITY DVS-1 VEHICLE DVR 8CH 40GB | eBay
17:29 * einball loves the modulated basslines
17:45 ajprog_laptop yNos: you in?
17:45 BotSteve ajprog_laptop: I have the following messages for you:
17:45 BotSteve At 14:58Z, yNos asked me to tell ajprog_laptop when you get in, please tell me what switchport the nbx100 is plugged into..
17:46 sndwrx Who's on first?
17:47 sndwrx So, is everyone honing their captcha skills on sparkfun.com today?
17:52 Dibblah http://imagebin.org/193089 Frfru.
17:52 BotSteve Title: Imagebin - A place to slap up your images.
17:53 sndwrx Yeah, some of them have been ridiculous.
17:53 sndwrx Supposedly the winners are chosen at random by geiger counter: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/free-day-2012
17:53 BotSteve Title: SparkFun Free Day on USTREAM: .
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17:57 ajprog_laptop yNos: 11
18:01 dbshortwave "any one know how big a BILLION is?" its a CENSORED BIG WIREMAN!"
18:01 dbshortwave WAIT
18:01 dbshortwave number*
18:01 dbshortwave holy crap and my ADD
18:02 * Experimentonomen modulates einball and looks at dbshortwave
18:02 dbshortwave lol
18:02 dbshortwave watching the blog
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18:07 BitViper meh i got my win on the 6th try 5 minutes after it started =)
18:08 BitViper \o/
18:08 roadran422 back!
18:08 roadran422 Howdy yall!
18:08 BitViper roadran422 : FRONT !
18:08 roadran422 What? xD
18:10 sndwrx BitViper: Seriously?
18:10 roadran422 I don't get it?
18:12 yNos am back
18:12 roadran422 Hi yNos
18:12 yNos ajprog_laptop: Thanks
18:13 yNos Hiya roadran422
18:13 roadran422 Also, BitViper ID on't get it? "Front"?
18:13 BitViper roadran422 : in response to your "back"
18:13 roadran422 Wow.
18:13 roadran422 :P
18:13 roadran422 SIDE!
18:22 Monkeh I hate recaptcha
18:23 Monkeh You usually have to try three or four times to get an image which it's actually possible to read
18:24 yNos ajprog_laptop: you around?
18:25 Monkeh yNos: you having phone woes? :)
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18:27 roadran4221 Back xD
18:27 roadran4221 Power outage
18:27 roadran4221 FRONT
18:33 yNos am having network woes.. not phone yet.
18:33 Sgt_Lemming trying to create a new password for my email account and using a password strengh checker...
18:33 Sgt_Lemming "I Fucking Hate Passwords!" scores 100%
18:34 yNos need to have someone jack in to the port to see if they can pull an addrerss...
18:34 yNos **address
18:34 yNos it should work.. but i cannot pass traffic...
18:34 ajprog_laptop yNos: yes
18:34 Sgt_Lemming yNos want me to design a micro controller based board that just has a network jack and an LCD, and shows the IP it gets assigned upon plugin? :-P
18:36 yNos i would love something that would pull dhcp. then try to grab a text file off a web server.. or ping..
18:36 yNos just something to show traffic is moving.
18:36 roadran4221 Is it considered a secure password if someone can guess it easily, yet it is hard to crack?
18:37 yNos ajprog_laptop: can you please go jack into port 11 with something and see if you can pull an address?
18:37 Sgt_Lemming roadran4221, if someone can guess it easily, it's not hard to crack...
18:37 Superphosphate bye peoples :)
18:37 Sgt_Lemming yNos, I can probably do that if you are upto doing the code
18:37 roadran4221 Sgt_Lemming: As in a friend could guess it, but a stranger couldn't crack it.
18:37 Sgt_Lemming would be easy to make it grab a 50 byte file and then md5 hash it or something
18:37 yNos roadran4221: http://xkcd.com/936/
18:37 BotSteve Title: xkcd: Password Strength
18:38 ajprog_laptop yNos: ok just a min looking at one of these kvms see if I can get i working
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18:38 yNos the hardware is the easy part... for me at least..
18:38 yNos Sgt_Lemming: ^^
18:38 yNos i am not all that great of a coder..
18:38 Sgt_Lemming heh
18:38 yNos scripter? i can script..
18:38 Sgt_Lemming me neither
18:39 ajprog_laptop coding is easy
18:39 yNos Jeff: i had an idea last night.. do you think you could write a curses interface to the forum?
18:40 yNos just db calls, right?
18:40 Sgt_Lemming ajprog_laptop, I will seriously design the hardware right now if you want to write the code
18:40 Sgt_Lemming will take me all of 20 minutes to do the hardware
18:40 yNos netduino
18:40 yNos done
18:40 ajprog_laptop what is the code for? in what lang?
18:40 Sgt_Lemming arduino, or netduino as yNos said
18:40 yNos curses for me, c(ish) for him
18:41 yNos my c skills are weak.
18:41 yNos i can brute force my way through..
18:41 roadran4221 yNos what is your profession/degree?
18:41 Electricguy i give up this damn sparkfun free day! have been typing captchas for 2 hours and 40 mins.. no luck
18:41 yNos degree? what is that?
18:42 yNos profession, unix admin
18:42 roadran4221 You know that cert after college. And nice
18:42 yNos i has no degrees.. or college...
18:42 roadran4221 What?
18:42 yNos just a lust for learning.
18:42 roadran4221 How do you get a job...
18:42 yNos i had to bust ass to get to where i am.
18:42 roadran4221 And, are you planning to get a degree? Oh..
18:43 yNos maybe..
18:43 BitViper Electricguy : but you know it would be the next one that won for you
18:43 roadran4221 Oh..
18:43 yNos i am not your average person.. i got lucky in my path to end up where i am.
18:43 yNos i am not saying that you shouldnt go to school.
18:43 injektion I've given up in trying to get an IT job until after college
18:43 Electricguy BitViper, yeah, but after about 2.5h you are totally sick of captchas and it all feels pointless..
18:43 roadran4221 yNos: Oh.. I want to be an IT tech.. I'll be going to school.
18:44 yNos what field?
18:44 injektion I couldn't even get a temp job at google
18:44 roadran4221 Network operations and fixing
18:44 yNos damn dyslexic fingers...
18:44 Electricguy and in swedish money 100 dollars isn't that much atm, so i can spend my own money on it if i want.
18:44 yNos dont get into PC repair, there are sooo many people out there that can do that.
18:44 roadran4221 As a side job..
18:44 BitViper Electricguy : last year it took me about 3 hours
18:44 sndwrx PC repair is boring anyway.  :/
18:44 yNos learn the hardware, but dont try to compete in that field..
18:45 roadran4221 lol
18:45 roadran4221 Computer IT (Network), fixing cars side job.
18:45 yNos there are too many people with low costs that can (and will) take a loss in order to get a job..
18:45 roadran4221 :(
18:45 yNos been there, done that.
18:45 Electricguy BitViper, ok, but it doesn't mean much to me.. so.. yeh. i get around 450 dollars each month to spend anyways'
18:45 sndwrx Yeah, definitely learn the hardware.  You wouldn't believe how many Windows admins I know that can't tell the difference between SSD and platter drive!  D:
18:45 roadran4221 Ahh
18:46 injektion sndwrx: next time drop a drive on their foot
18:46 * sndwrx snickers.
18:46 sndwrx "how'd that feel?  Good.  Now recover the data."
18:47 roadran4221 Window admins who don't know what an sdd vs a hdd is?!?!!?!?
18:47 roadran4221 That is sad.
18:47 roadran4221 *ssd
18:47 sndwrx Seven hours later..."I can't seem to recover anything from this disk!"  "Oh, wait.  I gave you the wrong disk.  There IS nothing on that one."
18:47 roadran4221 xD
18:47 roadran4221 You could run a car over a ssd and recover data from it, a hdd not really..
18:48 sndwrx roadran4221: True story.  Always be hungry for knowledge, always move forward.  Don't get too comfortable, don't be complacent.
18:48 roadran4221 Lool
18:48 roadran4221 I failed at notcing my username has a 1 at the end :P
18:48 injektion Half height drives are pretty tall aren't they?
18:48 yNos complacency is the sign of a failed man.
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18:49 sndwrx I have to run for a bit.
18:49 roadran422 I know basic hardware, and how to put one together
18:49 injektion This is a half-height SCSI drive isn't it? http://www.basoncomputer.com/specification/st1181677lwv_r.jpg
18:49 roadran422 Cya sndwrx
18:49 yNos roadran422: do you have an arduino yet?
18:50 roadran422 No... I don't really code or program or have the money to or have the money to get anything to od with an arduino
18:52 yNos an arduino with a network sheild and an lcd of some sort will open the world to you.. you will see how to talk to hardware, how to build an interface.. after you figure out how to talk ps2, you can do a crapload.
18:52 roadran422 I wish I had the stuf..
18:52 roadran422 I could talk over the internet with someone xD
18:53 yNos how old are you?
18:53 roadran422 14 turning 15 this july
18:53 yNos am guessing you are a city kid?
18:53 roadran422 I am in my house mainly, I'm never out of the house....
18:53 yNos ah
18:54 yNos could you do a lawn mowing business or something to make some cash to get said stuff?
18:54 roadran422 Mehh
18:54 roadran422 xD
18:54 ajprog_laptop yNos: 10.1.100.18(?)
18:54 roadran422 I might get a job over summer!
18:55 yNos ajprog_laptop: that is the address is pulled?
18:55 ajprog_laptop yep, or something close to that
18:55 yNos that is odd...
18:55 yNos it should be getting something like 10.100.X.X
18:56 ajprog_laptop ok then 10.100.1.18
18:56 roadran422 xD
18:56 yNos 10.100 is lsl, the 3rd octet tells you what vlan you are on, the last octet is your station address...
18:56 yNos just how we set it up
18:57 yNos from how the switch is setup, it should be getting 10.100.70.something.
18:57 Sgt_Lemming yay
18:57 Sgt_Lemming my gmail acocunt now has a much more secure password, 2 step verification and application specific password for my phone :-D
18:57 yNos do you know what the mac addy is for the device you jacked in?
18:58 ajprog_laptop 10.100.1.68
18:58 roadran422 Sgt_Lemming: I've done that too.
18:58 Sgt_Lemming roadran422, been meaning to do it for a little while, but just reflashed the rom on my phone, so had to resync the phone at the same time
18:58 Sgt_Lemming so decided to make the changes at the same time
18:59 roadran422 This is how you would go to my email account. You would first need to know the password to my phone, then another password to get through the lock in to the app, then you would need to get the code giving from it. Then you would go to a online pass bank, use that code + my other password to get in to the bank to get my email password. Then login in to gmail then use another code given by phone.
18:59 yNos ajprog_laptop: that was plugged into port 11?
19:00 yNos roadran422: so what happens if your passbank is down?
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19:00 roadran422 A session is kept on my laptop.
19:00 some_computer|tg ynos 00:13:72:A4:D5:97
19:00 roadran422 And I usually lock my windows account
19:01 yNos some_computer|tg: can you renew dhcp please?
19:01 yNos release/renew?
19:02 yNos thanks
19:02 some_computer|tg disconnect and reconnected --- same address
19:05 * einball1 cranks up the volume again
19:05 injektion I'd gladly open up my Octane for use but I need to secure it down first and update to IRIX 6.5.30
19:05 Sgt_Lemming yNos, if you want an all in one board for network checks, I can do it pretty quickly, but as I said someone else will have to code it
19:05 * yNos is a dumbass
19:05 yNos i configured port 11
19:05 Sgt_Lemming oooh, octane, nice
19:05 yNos on the WRONG SWITCH
19:05 Electricguy lol
19:05 Electricguy fail
19:05 Sgt_Lemming lol, well done yNos
19:06 Sgt_Lemming I've done the same before, except I configured the wrong blade >_<
19:06 einball1 That's like repairing a washing machine that's not actually plugged in :o)
19:06 yNos some_computer|tg: release/renew again
19:06 yNos ohwait.
19:06 yNos i just jucked him off.
19:06 yNos **kicked
19:08 yNos shut down the port
19:08 yNos no shut the port
19:08 yNos he should pull dhcp again.
19:08 yNos YAY
19:08 yNos Jan 11 14:08:16 fw dhcpd[2234]: DHCPDISCOVER from 00:13:72:a4:d5:97 via vlan70
19:08 yNos Jan 11 14:08:16 fw dhcpd[2234]: DHCPOFFER on 10.100.70.15 to 00:13:72:a4:d5:97 via vlan70
19:08 yNos Jan 11 14:08:16 fw dhcpd[2234]: DHCPREQUEST for 10.100.70.15 from 00:13:72:a4:d5:97 via vlan70
19:08 yNos Jan 11 14:08:16 fw dhcpd[2234]: DHCPACK on 10.100.70.15 to 00:13:72:a4:d5:97 via vlan70
19:09 yNos shocker.
19:09 Electricguy lol
19:09 ajprog_laptop you kicked me :(
19:09 yNos yup
19:10 yNos i changed the vlan you were on.
19:10 yNos on the correct switch this time
19:10 yNos :D
19:10 yNos thanks for playing!
19:10 yNos is the nbx plugged in now?
19:10 ajprog_laptop can you config another port for the bocsy signin computer in the hallway, then I will plug the phone switch into 11
19:10 injektion What is "dhcpd: DHCPINFORM from 10.10.10.15 via fxp"
19:11 yNos http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_DHCPINFORM
19:11 BotSteve Title: What is DHCPINFORM
19:11 yNos ajprog_laptop: leave port 11 alone..
19:12 yNos please.. plug the big 3com box into it.
19:12 yNos pick a different port
19:12 yNos any of them that arent in use.
19:12 yNos ahh
19:12 yNos just re-read it.
19:12 * yNos is a dumbass
19:13 injektion I've never had W7 send a DHCPINFORM before
19:13 injektion You can probably tell who's machine this is 10.10.10.15 00:0c:f1:0e:ed:8d DIPSTICK 2012/01/11 19:42:50 2012/01/11 21:42:50 offline active
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19:13 yNos yours?
19:14 injektion No
19:14 injektion My brother who doesn't have a high school diploma because he didn't pass the graduation tests
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19:14 yNos so you named his machine dipstick?
19:14 injektion Yes
19:15 yNos that is a freeform field, you can change the dhcpclient to almost anything.
19:15 injektion I need to fix the time on the firewall
19:16 injektion Every time it's set correctly pfsense always screws it up
19:21 yNos i havent used pfsense in a loooong time.
19:23 injektion I like it because it makes pf easy
19:24 injektion I prefer pfsense to most of that all in one linux firewall crap
19:24 injektion Because it's light on resources and it doesn't install X
19:24 injektion It's also BSD
19:24 Sgt_Lemming yNos https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/PCBS?authkey=Gv1sRgCK73t-Cw3pmLmwE#5696350186092590866 <--- current project
19:24 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming . - PCB's
19:27 yNos Sgt_Lemming: is this the business card?
19:27 yNos with ethernet?!?
19:27 Sgt_Lemming nope
19:27 Sgt_Lemming RFID Door control system
19:28 Sgt_Lemming it's an Arduino Mega shield
19:28 einball1 ethernet is for noobs only!
19:28 einball1 Real men transmit in morse code :D
19:28 Sgt_Lemming based off our current system, but with some improvements
19:28 yNos nice
19:29 yNos how is the business card thing going?
19:29 Sgt_Lemming slowly
19:29 Sgt_Lemming learning Altium atm so I can do it properly
19:29 yNos do i need to send you some $ for mine yet?!?!
19:29 Sgt_Lemming but it's a slow process
19:29 yNos altium?
19:29 Sgt_Lemming probably gonna be a month or so before it's ready for prototyping, let alone production
19:29 Sgt_Lemming .w altium
19:30 BotSteve "Altium Limited is an Australian based software company that provides PC-based electronics design software for engineers." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Altium
19:30 Sgt_Lemming awesome software, but not exactly what you'd call intuitive
19:31 Sgt_Lemming fritzing, the software used for all my boards so far, is nice an intuitive, but a bit lacking on features
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19:31 Bat-Mobile yo
19:32 Sgt_Lemming lo Bat-Mobile
19:33 Sgt_Lemming how goes it?
19:34 Bat-Mobile It goes.  Trying to keep my motivation level up
19:34 Bat-Mobile Wishing I packed a bigger lunch
19:34 Sgt_Lemming heh
19:34 Sgt_Lemming doing the same kind of
19:34 Sgt_Lemming working on a new PCB
19:34 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/PCBS?authkey=Gv1sRgCK73t-Cw3pmLmwE#5696350186092590866
19:34 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming . - PCB's
19:43 ajprog_laptop yNos: phone plugged in
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19:57 Bat-Mobile Huh.  AdBlockPlus now allows has an option to allow non-intrusive advertising
19:57 Bat-Mobile I am in full support of this.
20:04 Monkeh Bat-Mobile: Yep. It's not ads I object to: It's intrusive, moving, flashing, flash-based, sound-producing ads I object to.
20:05 Bat-Mobile ::nod::
20:05 Bat-Mobile Same
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20:16 injektion Once I figure out a few more things I'll open up the octane for public use
20:19 einball1 octane?
20:20 Sgt_Lemming .w SGI Octane
20:20 BotSteve "The Octane and the similar Octane2 are UNIX workstations marketed by SGI." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SGI_Octane
20:20 einball1 Oh, I thought that's a piece of software :)
20:20 Sgt_Lemming .w irix
20:20 BotSteve "IRIX is a flavour of the UNIX System V computer operating system developed by Silicon Graphics, Inc. to run natively on their MIPS architecture workstations and servers." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irix
20:22 einball1 looks like the systems are quite expensive
20:26 injektion einball1: They were at one point
20:27 einball1 Hmm, are they still compareable to x86 dualcores?
20:28 einball1 I've heard that architeture is quite powerful compared to x86
20:28 injektion Well MIPS isn't that powerful now
20:28 einball1 But I've never been interested in them
20:29 injektion On my dual 250MHZ MIPS Octane web browsing is slow and if a site is a heavy user of javascript forget it
20:30 einball1 hmm, okay
20:30 einball1 (The casing looks cool)
20:31 Sgt_Lemming SGI computers always look cool
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20:39 sndwrx THE CAKE IS A LIE!!!
20:39 Monkeh weee, $100 code.
20:40 sndwrx Did you get it?
20:40 Sgt_Lemming bastardo Monkeh
20:40 Bat-Mobile .log
20:40 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
20:40 Bat-Mobile what'd I miss?
20:40 Bat-Mobile not much apparently
20:40 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: It took several hours.
20:41 Monkeh sndwrx: Yes.
20:41 Sgt_Lemming yeah, not surprised
20:41 einball1 hmm
20:41 einball1 :)
20:41 sndwrx Well awesome.
20:41 roadran422 HI Bat
20:41 roadran422 Hi Bat-Mobile
20:41 sndwrx I've been trying off and on for a few hours.
20:41 sndwrx Longest I actually tried was close to 15 minutes.
20:41 Bat-Mobile hi roadran422
20:42 sndwrx Then I'd leave it alone for half an hour or so.
20:42 sndwrx IIIIII need to set up a guest wireless network, issue an invoice and update my resume.
20:43 sndwrx sparkfun has been the perfect distraction from that.  :P
20:43 masterofmonks Ah, a Bat-Mobile
20:44 Bat-Mobile so it would seem
20:44 Bat-Mobile hi monks
20:44 Bat-Mobile How goes?
20:44 masterofmonks There is much spatula in this frying pan.
20:45 Bat-Mobile they have medications that will clear that right up
20:45 Bat-Mobile Just don't mix laxatives and sleeping pills.
20:45 yNos later all
20:45 * yNos waves
20:45 Bat-Mobile bye yNos
20:52 Electricguy anatomy of a urban thug! XD http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/398601_10151140566195317_374223870316_22352364_1539314931_n.jpg
20:52 Bat-Mobile Look at all the ribs!
20:52 Sgt_Lemming tripod he ain't :-P
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21:00 roadran422 cya y
21:00 roadran422 cya yno
21:00 roadran422 s
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21:57 einball1 freeday is over
21:59 einball1 :(
22:01 einball1 I suppose the luck just oversees me everytime it passes ;)
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22:28 Electricguy bedtime
22:28 Electricguy night night all
22:28 einball1 n8
22:30 Electricguy neight on you too! ;)
22:30 Seroster HM
22:30 Seroster I got this motherboard and it is REALLY old
22:31 Seroster It got RAM sticks that are half the height of the common ones
22:35 azop yNos: pong
22:36 azop yNos: do you have a color preference on Cat5e (blue / grey)
22:45 Monkeh I.. may have to mess with Chris and flags.
23:00 roadran422 Classical music at it's best. Mozart.
23:00 roadran422 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCSevzJQ2-Y&amp;feature=g-vrec&amp;context=G28308d3RVAAAAAAAAAA
23:00 BotSteve Title: Mozart - Rondo Alla Turca - YouTube
23:01 Seroster I love my USB/SATA/IDE adapter kit
23:01 roadran422 Lol
23:01 Seroster It also got male to female, male to male and female to female USB adapters
23:01 roadran422 Hey Seroster
23:02 roadran422 What are those adapters needed?
23:02 Seroster I can make any hdd turn with this kit.
23:02 roadran422 No the male to male and female to female usb ones?
23:02 Seroster I have yet to find an use for them
23:02 Seroster Ah,wait.
23:03 Seroster This is so you can use two USBports that converge to one female, so you can have stuff that needs more power plugged in
23:03 SparkyProjects http://www.funswitcher.com/assets/switchers/attachment/zezv4/AQW-DerpieBrothers.mp3 :P
23:04 roadran422 Oh yah! I remember xD
23:04 roadran422 The hell "Derpie"?
23:04 roadran422 Wtf?
23:05 Seroster What is the most common ending for home movies?
23:05 Seroster .mov? .mp4?
23:05 roadran422 .avi or .avdc <or something like that...
23:06 Seroster How could I forget avi?
23:06 roadran422 xD
23:07 roadran422 Isn't avdc some format used for HD cameras?
23:07 Seroster I doubt there is hd on this hdd.
23:07 roadran422 Lol
23:09 Seroster Wow, here is some REALLY middle eastern music
23:09 roadran422 lol
23:11 JA12 http://nyan.naurunappula.com/org/e6/87/e68784fa68bcf6ca/0/854127.jpg
23:11 roadran422 nyan cat?
23:11 JA12 the opposite
23:11 roadran422 Nyan dog? xd
23:12 roadran422 *XD
23:12 JA12 yup
23:12 roadran422 Wtf?
23:12 JA12 apparently it's a meme
23:13 Seroster Well, screw it. This is a 20ish gig paperweight
23:13 JA12 hdd?
23:13 roadran422 ?
23:13 JA12 it has a nice magnet in it. I usually keep them
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23:14 JA12 good fridge magnets for people to hurt themselves
23:14 Seroster Dewd
23:14 Seroster I have tons of hdd magnets
23:15 roadran422 I dare you to bring a whole suitcase full of them through airport secutiy,
23:15 Seroster I glue them to the back of small paintings and use the magnets to hang pictures ON THE NAILS THAT HOLD THE DRYWALL
23:15 Seroster That is how awesome they are
23:16 roadran422 xD, I wouldn't imagine that work?
23:16 Seroster It does
23:16 roadran422 Wouldn't they be crooked and be in the oddest places?
23:16 Seroster No?
23:16 roadran422 ?
23:16 Seroster Put the magnet in the middle of the picture, it won't be crooked
23:16 roadran422 True, but isn't it going to be in odd places?
23:16 Seroster The nails are in 40cm increments, straight lines from floor to ceiling
23:16 roadran422 Oh! I didn't know that...
23:17 Seroster Looks great with small pictures and/or paintings in a row
23:17 roadran422 lol
23:17 Seroster It won't hold a kilo, but it can support 100grams without much problem
23:17 roadran422 Someone throws a ball bearing in the air, the magnet catches it and the thing shatters lol
23:18 JA12 Seroster: that's a neat trick
23:18 roadran422 lol
23:19 Seroster It sure is
23:19 Seroster I bought fifteen broken HDDs on craigslist, got 20ish usable magnets.
23:20 roadran422 Dang
23:20 roadran422 What torx bit?
23:20 Seroster Tiny
23:20 roadran422 ?
23:20 Seroster T7
23:20 roadran422 Dang... I need to get one :P
23:20 Seroster Smallest you get in a general torx set is either T10 or T9
23:20 roadran422 Yep^
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23:21 Seroster I got a jewelers screwdriver set for like 8bucks, works like a charm and got some insane bits, a 0.05mm hex bit or a phillips 0000
23:21 roadran422 Wow... I need one lol
23:21 roadran422 Also need tri-wing
23:21 Seroster At that point it isnt even a screwdriver, it's a damn needle with ridges xD
23:22 Seroster Yeah, triwing are a bitch, but you can get pretty cheap sets
23:22 Monkeh Seroster: Yeah, the lack of T8 in most sets sucks.
23:22 roadran422 Hahahahaha
23:22 Seroster Problem with the security sets is that when they are in their bit holder you can't reach down into the screw hole
23:22 Seroster This is true for most electric eggbeaters wich use the "snakeeyes" bit
23:22 Monkeh Seroster: Hence my set of security keys.
23:22 roadran422 Seroster: I hate that!
23:22 Seroster Or, flathead with pin
23:22 roadran422 That's why I need percision ones!
23:22 Seroster monkeh HA!
23:23 Seroster THERE IS A SOLUTION!
23:23 Seroster Take the bit, and your dremel, and make a slot in the end of the bit.
23:23 Monkeh Seroster: As for the snakeeyes and tongue things
23:23 Monkeh Seroster: As you say, dremel
23:23 JA12 I have 0.2mm drill bits
23:23 Monkeh Cheap screwdrivers + dremel.
23:23 Seroster Put the bit in its hole, it can be well over a decimeter deep, and turn it with a regular flathead
23:23 roadran422 No.
23:23 roadran422 Not that.
23:23 roadran422 The bit won't even fit in to the hole!
23:23 Monkeh Those things ALWAYS break, so just get some really cheap ones and make your own
23:23 Seroster Nah
23:23 roadran422 That's my problem.
23:24 roadran422 They never fit in to the hole.
23:24 Seroster I have CrV good quality security bits, and I slotted all of them
23:24 Seroster Well yeah they do, as long as you don't use their intended holder.
23:24 roadran422 ?
23:24 roadran422 No.
23:24 roadran422 I would know.
23:24 Monkeh Seroster: I've never found the snakeeyes last even if they are 'good'
23:24 Monkeh Seroster: They're weak by design
23:25 Seroster But for safetytorx, safetyhex and triwing it actually works
23:25 Monkeh Seroster: I have keys for the former, and will acquire them for the others when needed
23:25 Seroster roadran422, The bit you put in the ratchet is say 6mm
23:25 Seroster The sleeve of the ratchet female is 12mm
23:26 roadran422 Ok? You fit a tri-wing bit in to a ds socket.
23:26 roadran422 It won't fit.
23:26 Seroster The hole the screw is in is about 8mm
23:26 roadran422 Atleast my 1/4 inch bits...
23:26 Monkeh Seroster: 6.35mm hex, so just over 7mm point to point.
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23:27 Seroster roadran422, If you can find no other solution or the warranty is voided already either use a screw extractor, dremel or just drill the damn thing out
23:27 roadran422 xD
23:27 Monkeh Seroster: I think he's talking about the really tiny sizes which only have a 4 or 5mm recess.
23:27 Seroster A screw extractor is like a regular drill bit with a left hand thread, put it in a drill and run it in reverse. IT grabs to the screw and gets it out
23:27 roadran422 I always wanted a percision screw driver. The shaft very small.
23:27 Seroster Yeah
23:28 Seroster But I really like having bitsets since they aint too bulky to carry around.
23:28 dbshortwave hey take that to #TGG:NSFW
23:28 roadran422 ?
23:28 dbshortwave we dont want to hear about your bits
23:28 roadran422 :P
23:28 dbshortwave XD
23:29 dbshortwave or your small shaft screwdriver
23:29 dbshortwave :P
23:30 JA12 dbshortwave: if you don't want to hear about those, why did you join nsfw then :P
23:30 dbshortwave the hell of it
23:30 dbshortwave lol
23:30 JA12 you got interested, admit it ;)
23:30 dbshortwave lol
23:30 Seroster Goodnight.
23:31 dbshortwave meh cant complain
23:31 dbshortwave nite
23:31 JA12 night
23:31 Seroster I'd love to talk about skinny shafts and screwing all night, but I gotta get up tomorrow =)
23:32 dbshortwave lol
23:34 JA12 talking about dremels and bits...
23:34 roadran422 :(
23:34 JA12 if you need good quality bits for engraving, ask your dentist
23:35 roadran422 xD
23:35 JA12 I asked and got a box of used ones, diamond coated and not
23:35 roadran422 I just need screwdriver and security set  that have a small shaft.
23:41 injektion What measure of units do the rules in photoshop measure in?
23:41 Ponko innuendos
23:41 injektion lol
23:42 injektion rulers*
23:42 Ponko no clue sorry
23:43 roadran422 American or English.
23:43 roadran422 One of those xD
23:47 Ponko do you mean american or english rulers roadran422?
23:47 roadran422 No... Inches of Meters
23:47 Ponko imperial or metric
23:47 injektion This typeface is ****
23:47 roadran422 ...
23:48 JA12 how about pixels?
23:48 dbshortwave joined #thegeekgroup
23:49 injektion I'm trying to find a techo looking font while still maintaining a level of professionalism
23:49 dbshortwave brb
23:49 Ponko you're printing them i guess
23:50 Ponko so pixels don't help in this situation unforntunatly

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