Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-01-12

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00:14 tlockley joined #thegeekgroup
00:14 tlockley Heyo
00:14 roadran422 injektion: i might have onE?
00:14 injektion Have a what?
00:14 roadran422 Fofnt?
00:15 roadran422 *A font?
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00:16 roadran422 http://www.ffonts.net/Hi-tech.html
00:16 BotSteve Title: Hi-tech Fonts
00:18 dbshortwave still needs to be restarted
00:36 dbshortwave brb
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00:44 BotSteve TOASTY!
00:44 tlockley Hey toast
00:45 Toastdude Hello tlockley
00:45 tlockley hows it going?
00:45 Toastdude Pretty goo, yourself?
00:45 Toastdude *good
00:46 tlockley same, ish
00:46 tlockley trying to get financial aid for school but they are jerking me all over the place
00:49 yNos egrsteve|away: you at tgg?
00:52 Toastdude What school?
00:53 tlockley Univ. Massachusetts Dartmouth
00:53 Toastdude Ah
00:54 tlockley because my GPA is so low i need to fill out a financial aid appeal to get it again
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01:09 tehdark45 Hello persons
01:09 tlockley Hello
01:09 Toastdude Hello
01:10 tehdark45 Look its Toast :P
01:11 Toastdude Toastdude to you. Only a select few get to call me Toast.
01:11 tehdark45 I know :P
01:11 Toastdude :P
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01:12 yNos i wonder if anyone is @ the lab
01:12 yNos ...
01:12 tehdark45 What about you?
01:12 tlockley i wish yNos
01:13 yNos i want to get that switch configured...
01:13 yNos the one for the phones..
01:13 tehdark45 Yeah im at the bus lab yNos :p
01:13 tlockley how is the new phone system?
01:13 yNos tried explaining to chris that poe is fairly proprietry...
01:13 yNos no phones hooked to it yet..
01:14 tlockley POE is proprietary? or just thay systems?
01:14 tlockley *that
01:14 yNos they dont like cisco poe or the poe injectors we tried.
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01:14 yNos cisco poe is -48v
01:14 tlockley interesting, i was under the imression that POE was supposed to be a standard
01:14 tonsofpcs hi
01:14 yNos we tried 12 v poe..
01:14 tonsofpcs -48?
01:14 yNos yup
01:15 yNos the wires to use is a standard..
01:15 tonsofpcs what make/model phones?
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01:15 tonsofpcs no it isn't.  I mean, it is, but no one follows it :-p
01:15 Monkeh tlockley: There are multiple revisions and methods
01:15 tonsofpcs (well there's a few of tthem)
01:15 tlockley well figures
01:15 yNos is annoying..
01:16 Monkeh 48V is nominal, if it takes something else it's not PoE
01:16 tehdark45 Its Monkeh
01:16 Monkeh (they don't care if it's 48V or -48V, SMPS inside the unit handles that)
01:16 yNos in the point to point wireless world, 12v poe is kinda standard.
01:17 yNos there is some that is 24vac
01:17 tonsofpcs yNos: make/model phones?
01:17 Monkeh yNos: That's not 802.3af or 802.3at then, and that IS PoE. That's just sticking the DC input on some pins on the 8P8C connector.
01:17 Monkeh yNos: For which you can get cheap 'injectors' which just hijack the pairs unused in 10/100.
01:18 tonsofpcs pshaw, who uses 24V phantom power when yuo can push 220VAC phantom? :)
01:18 Monkeh Real PoE is 48V phantom power.
01:18 tonsofpcs ok, still not 220 VAC :-p
01:20 Monkeh tonsofpcs: No, but 220V is way above the insulating rating of ordinary cat5e (or cat3, cat5, cat6, cat6a..)
01:21 * Cprossu yawns
01:21 BotSteve cprossu: I have the following messages for you:
01:21 BotSteve At 11 Jan 15:54Z, Batsteve asked me to ask cprossu which is correct for the minecraft server:  25565 or 25564 ?
01:21 tlockley Hey Cprossu
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01:22 Monkeh yNos: Yeah, what model are those phones, because they really should just take 48V without whining.
01:22 Cprossu BotSteve: tell BatSteve that the TGG LAB in creative mode is at :25564 and my survival mode server is at :25565
01:22 BotSteve Cprossu: I'll pass that on when Batsteve is around.
01:22 tonsofpcs alternatively, do they accept an external power supply?
01:22 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Yes, but they don't have them (well, they might by now)
01:22 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Those were coming with the known good PoE switch today, iirc.
01:23 tonsofpcs Monkeh: right, but you can build your own phantom system.
01:23 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Or, much easier, you can DIY a stolen-pair system. ;)
01:23 Monkeh tonsofpcs: See: Cheap injectors.
01:23 tonsofpcs Monkeh: yea
01:23 tonsofpcs or you can just use the cheap injectors and DIY the phone end
01:23 yNos tonsofpcs: check boden's facebook post for make/model..
01:23 Monkeh yNos: I can't see his facebook, dig it up for me. :P
01:24 tonsofpcs have you opened one up yet?
01:24 yNos no, i have been busy making pretty in the noc..
01:24 yNos well.. i was there till 10ish last night making pretty in the noc.
01:25 Monkeh yNos: You make the NOC pretty or the Boden gets angry.
01:25 Monkeh And/or rather distressed
01:25 tonsofpcs and/or the random internet viewers get angry
01:25 tlockley Monkeh: they are 3Com 2102 and 3102 IP Phones
01:26 Monkeh Oh, god, 3Com.
01:26 Monkeh Standards? What standards?
01:26 yNos 16 . 2102 3com IP phones
01:26 yNos 2 . 3102 3com IP Phones
01:26 yNos 1 . Polycom IP3000 Soundstation Conference Phone
01:26 exor674 Monkeh: standards are that thing where you pay a lot of money to some company to get a manual that you use as something to hold up the couch in the breakroom
01:27 tlockley ^this
01:27 yNos my extent to playing with them was plugging it into the poe cisco switch and watching nothing happen.
01:27 tlockley i love doing that
01:28 Monkeh yNos: A 2102?
01:28 tonsofpcs the IP3000 should take POE...
01:28 tonsofpcs err, wait
01:28 tonsofpcs no, thhat probably needs a power supply, nevermind
01:28 Monkeh Looking at the 3Com docs
01:28 Monkeh 3102 has 803.2af, 2102 does not unless it's a 2102PE
01:29 Ponko http://www.damnlol.com/sweden-then-and-now-6911.html Seroster what happened
01:29 BotSteve Title: Sweden Then... And Now - Damn! LOL
01:30 Monkeh yNos: If it's a case of no official PoE support, rigging up whatever they want via an injector is relatively easy if you've got a spare patch panel for it.
01:30 tonsofpcs Monkeh: well, bill's already making a giant power injector system.... why not build another at proper voltage for phones?
01:30 yNos They got the swithc that came with it.
01:30 yNos a few hrs ago
01:31 yNos and have them working :D
01:31 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Pretty much.
01:31 Monkeh yNos: Even the 2102s?
01:32 Cprossu woo nice yNos
01:32 * Monkeh ponders misconfigured Cisco
01:32 Cprossu is there any easy way to get analog phone 'lines' out of that system yNos heh heh heh
01:33 Monkeh Cprossu: There are plenty of adapters to IP phone systems?
01:33 yNos i have a wishlist for that
01:33 tonsofpcs Cprossu: there's analog inputs, I think there were ATAs mounted in it too, not sure by the brief pictures we saw
01:33 yNos non-ip based so we can use them for modems :D
01:33 tonsofpcs why would you want analog 'lines' back out?
01:33 yNos chris wants a bbs setup
01:34 yNos oldschool
01:34 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Old school phones!
01:34 tlockley sweet
01:34 yNos yup
01:34 tlockley jjkkdirjjf
01:34 tlockley stupid cat
01:34 Monkeh Well, that's one large pile of 'free' stuff coming..
01:34 Monkeh Free. Plus shipping and of course, VAT.
01:35 tonsofpcs yNos: right, but you can do that by using lines directly connected... no need for the IP PBX
01:35 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Bah, waste of good cat5e.
01:37 tonsofpcs Monkeh: huh?
01:38 yNos http://www.ebay.com/itm/3Com-NBX-100-3C10116B-T1-PRI-Digital-Line-Card-Mint-/160611713149
01:38 BotSteve Title: 3Com NBX 100 3C10116B T1/PRI Digital Line Card Mint! | eBay
01:38 yNos 3Com NBX 100 3C10116B T1/PRI Digital Line Card
01:38 yNos http://www.ebay.com/itm/170673861928?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
01:38 BotSteve Title: eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices
01:38 yNos -or-
01:38 yNos http://www.ebay.com/itm/AdTran-TSU-600-1202-076L2-24-FXS-ports-tested-warranty-/310194512360?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item483908a1e8
01:38 BotSteve Title: AdTran TSU 600 1202.076L2 24 FXS ports tested warranty | eBay
01:38 yNos from what it looks li
01:39 yNos the tsu600 can do basic call routing if configured to do that.
01:39 yNos an atlas would be better, but dems 'spensive
01:39 NeWtoz hmm, I wonder why my box of cat5e is coming in 2 packages
01:40 NeWtoz something doesn't make sense there
01:40 tlockley they are shipping the wire seperate from the reel box
01:40 Ponko NeWtoz: my man
01:40 tlockley it would seem
01:41 Monkeh NeWtoz: Err, yes, that's a little odd.
01:41 NeWtoz I'll find out what happened on Friday
01:42 NeWtoz well, probably on Saturday
01:42 Ponko NeWtoz: if Green Bay lose i won't care i HOPEFULLY will be going Amsterdam with my gf so i won't care i'd rather spend 5 days with my gf than Green Bay winning the super bowl
01:42 Monkeh NeWtoz: Steve's gonna kill you. :P
01:43 NeWtoz Ponko, yeah, I'd rather be going to Amasterdam with your gf too instead of green bay winning the super bowl
01:43 Ponko haha funny
01:44 Ponko you get my point though
01:45 NeWtoz I ordered orange colored cat5e just because it's a cooler color
01:45 NeWtoz I do Ponko
01:45 Ponko lol
01:45 NeWtoz I would of ordered pink if they had it
01:45 Ponko ok time to sleep
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01:46 Monkeh NeWtoz: I'm pretty sure I can get pink.
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01:46 NeWtoz yeah, they just didn't have any at monoprice in 1000ft spools
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01:46 BotSteve Spatula.
01:46 SparkyProjects http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xLsccoJIsw
01:46 BotSteve Title: Photonicinduction Talks About TGG - YouTube
01:53 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Oh, dear, he doesn't listen too well does he?
01:54 SparkyProjects Nope
01:54 SparkyProjects It wasn't his iphone, and it wasn't even his :P
01:54 NeWtoz internet drama
01:54 SparkyProjects *not even an iphone
01:55 tonsofpcs an adtran? i'm sorry...
01:55 * masterofmonks points at :controversial
01:56 tonsofpcs ?
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02:06 tonsofpcs hmm... anyone have a good console (curses/ncurses/etc) client for gmail?
02:07 roadran422 console?
02:07 roadran422 As in e-mail client? If so I'd reckon thunderbird!
02:08 tonsofpcs yes, console.  terminal, if you will.
02:08 tonsofpcs something i can leave running in screen
02:09 roadran422 Idk what a console/terminal is xD
02:09 roadran422 Email client- Outlook or Thunderbird
02:09 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPPzJZaCX_E <- why is he being escorted out?
02:09 BotSteve Title: NUCKINFUTS Gemini - How to get banned from Summernats - YouTube
02:09 roadran422|away Be back in a few..
02:11 tonsofpcs "What seems to have happened is that the driver Steve Nogas was told he was disqualified for reason stemming back to his qualifying burnout (disobeying a fire mashal), he forced his car through a group of officials and on to the track, and after the burnout he was escorted from the track and his car towed away. "
02:11 yNos ahh.
02:11 yNos i read it after posting..
02:11 tonsofpcs :)
02:11 SparkyProjects yNos, reason seems to be in the description
02:11 tonsofpcs you use a console mail client, yNos?
02:12 yNos i use mutt
02:12 tonsofpcs with or without the 'sidebar' patch?
02:12 yNos w/o
02:12 tonsofpcs useful for gmail's folder filtering, etc, you think?
02:12 yNos fetchmail grabs my gmail stuff
02:13 tonsofpcs oh, would have to actually grab and store locally? hmmm
02:13 yNos i dont use folders.. i dont keep mail long..
02:13 tonsofpcs I never delete e-mail
02:16 Cprossu looks like fun
02:16 yNos i dont for work, personal stuff, if i need to keep it it goes into a google docsument
02:16 Cprossu wow
02:16 Cprossu that tsu600 is only $55
02:17 Cprossu $25 shipping though
02:17 Cprossu bah
02:17 Cprossu that's more than I have in me bank account at the moment
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02:17 roadran422|away back
02:19 yNos Cprossu: same here :(
02:20 tlockley what would that TSU600
02:20 tlockley let
02:20 tlockley you do
02:21 tonsofpcs hmm, mutt can't read my .muttrc? it's o+rw, else no rights...
02:21 tlockley sprry, still learning how to use my new keyboard
02:21 masterofmonks tlockley: what kind of keyboard?
02:21 tlockley kinesis advantage
02:22 tonsofpcs based on the name, you press on it :-p
02:22 wannabe-afk they sent me home early....
02:22 masterofmonks wannabe1987: is that a good thing?
02:22 wannabe1987 yes, cuz i get an hour off, but no because then i miss the money i would have made
02:22 wannabe1987 they had to send someone home, so they sent megan home, and she was training me
02:24 sndwrx Well.
02:24 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
02:24 sndwrx evenin.
02:24 yNos tlockley it would make it so we could route analog phone lines. we'd need the t1/pri card to go into the 3com nbx100 though.
02:24 yNos a t1/pri channel bank is all we'd need...
02:25 yNos am looking at pricing for them.. only reason i went with the adtran is i have used them in the past.
02:25 wannabe1987 Toastdude!!!!
02:25 Toastdude WANNABE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
02:25 wannabe1987 o.O
02:25 tlockley would the adtran do the same thing for you as the t1 card? or is it a matched parir so to say?
02:25 roadran422 Hi wannabe1987
02:26 wannabe1987 and you lied....it was actually to 9 :P  (but i didn't know that when i steent the text
02:26 wannabe1987 hi roadran422
02:26 yNos it would be a matched pair.
02:26 dbshortwave o.o
02:26 wannabe1987 hi dbshortwave
02:26 yNos we'd need one to use the other
02:27 dbshortwave hiya
02:27 tlockley well i could get you the adtran but the t1 card is a bit out of my budget
02:27 tonsofpcs yNos: my PBX at work is an NEC/Nitsuko (I think I mentioned this to you in person).... phone lines come in glass, run thruogh converter to T1, then convert to amphenol to feed a 66 block of POTS
02:28 * wannabe1987 has struts for her car, in the back seat :D
02:28 NeWtoz I tend to keep my struts on the car
02:29 NeWtoz not in them
02:29 yNos NeWtoz: i usually keep mine close to the tires
02:29 yNos but not touching
02:29 Monkeh yNos: But they make nice noises when they're touching
02:30 yNos ahter having done a "full compression test" a few times, the stock ones tend to.
02:30 tlockley tonsofpcs: what kind of connector do you mean when you say amphenol?
02:30 wannabe1987 NeWtoz: they go on on saturday :D
02:30 wannabe1987 hi Monkeh
02:30 Monkeh Hi wannabe1987
02:30 yNos tlockley: looks like an old printer plug.. centronics style
02:31 tlockley ok, so like for dealing with 25pair?
02:31 Monkeh yNos: Yargh, them.
02:32 Monkeh tlockley: Yeah, they come that big.
02:32 tonsofpcs tlockley: yes.
02:32 tonsofpcs they're "Centronics 50 pins" for printer people, but it's an amphenol plug.
02:32 tonsofpcs mind you, I was here for about 5 months before I realized that I drove past the old amphenol cable plant EVERY DAY :-p
02:33 tonsofpcs (they've since moved)
02:33 tlockley ok, i know what you are talking about. I have had to gut a very very old panasonc pbx that used that through out a whole building
02:33 Cprossu hey yNos
02:33 Cprossu I got an idea
02:33 yNos yeah?
02:33 Cprossu can we buy fake beards, really ratty ones
02:33 Monkeh tlockley: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0c/Centronics-36F.jpg
02:33 Cprossu for everyone to wear one day
02:33 tlockley Monkeh: yep
02:34 tlockley i know those well enough
02:34 tlockley both from
02:34 tlockley peinters and telco
02:34 Cprossu yNos it's the best chris prank I've been able to come up with
02:34 Monkeh tlockley: As I recall they've been used to unfortunate effect with SCSI too.
02:34 tlockley i gotta remember to check where muy thumb is
02:34 tlockley indeed thay have
02:34 tonsofpcs RJ21X, if you prefer, tlockley
02:35 yNos it would only be funny if we could get amy and moose in on it.
02:35 Monkeh Probably got some of that kicking around.
02:35 yNos hmmm.. take a chance? http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Alliance-Adit-600-CAC-CSU-DSU-T1-DS1-FXS-/270888814717?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&amp;hash=item3f123b487d
02:35 BotSteve Title: 2x Alliance Adit 600 CAC CSU DSU T1 DS1 FXS | eBay
02:35 Monkeh yNos: Moose.. wearing a beard.
02:35 Monkeh yNos: That's a disturbing image.
02:36 tlockley what could you get out of it? yNos
02:37 yNos tlockley: 96 phone lines.. would need a few t1 cards for the 3com though..
02:37 tlockley POTS?
02:38 eadthem keag on urban dictionary
02:38 tonsofpcs plain ol' telephone service
02:38 tonsofpcs the stuff that used to be the key of the PSTN business
02:38 tonsofpcs analog, 90V ring, etc, etc....
02:38 tlockley that reminds me I need to make a ringtone for my phone that is an old 56K
02:39 tlockley dialing in
02:39 tonsofpcs but that's backwards!
02:39 tonsofpcs make it just a carrier tone, awaiting detection :D
02:39 yNos does it need ringtone?
02:39 yNos does it need to ring?
02:39 tlockley heh
02:40 tlockley also tp anyone wondering why my lines keep arrving half complete, I am still learning how to type on this -->http://www.kinesis-ergo.com/images/kb_adv-blk720x471.jpg
02:40 tlockley *to
02:41 Monkeh tlockley: erk.
02:41 tonsofpcs tlockley: might I suggest a modelM?
02:41 Monkeh tonsofpcs: dakkadakkadakkadakkadakka
02:41 tlockley I have one, but it does not have a meta key and it drives me up a wall because of that
02:42 Monkeh tlockley: There are modern alternatives
02:42 Monkeh And I feel like that ground's been covered before.
02:43 Cprossu Monkeh: beards tweak chris
02:43 Cprossu it's a thing
02:43 tlockley and they are all sorta expensive. I managed to pick my kinesis up at the dump before it was totally trashed
02:43 Monkeh Cprossu: Oh, he'd love mine.
02:43 tonsofpcs yNos: look at Model RJ21X1-RJ45X24 Interface Adaptor.  What strikes you about this?  http://www.telebytebroadband.com/main/product_viewer.asp?product=new
02:43 BotSteve Title: Local Loop Simulators, Noise & Ring Trip Generators - ADSL, ADSL2, ADSLPLUS, ADSL2PLUS, G LITE, HDSL, SHDSL, VDSL, VDSL2 Wireline Simulators - Telebyte
02:44 Cprossu he was plotting to break into where I was and shave my beard off when I was sleeping from what I could tell the first trup down there, lol
02:44 tonsofpcs oh, here, direct product page: http://www.telebytebroadband.com/main/product_viewer.asp?product=rj21x1-rj45x24
02:44 BotSteve Title: Local Loop Simulators, Noise & Ring Trip Generators - ADSL, ADSL2, ADSLPLUS, ADSL2PLUS, G LITE, HDSL, SHDSL, VDSL, VDSL2 Wireline Simulators - Telebyte
02:44 yNos tlockley: http://kennethfinnegan.blogspot.com/2011/12/two-phone-intercom-toy.html
02:44 BotSteve Title: The Life of Kenneth: Two Phone Intercom Toy
02:45 tonsofpcs yNos: does anything in that product bother you as much as it bothers me?
02:46 yNos tonsofpcs: simulating a t1 isnt hard.. those are for simulating noise and testing how well it works under crappy conditions.. that is harder.
02:47 yNos they are for people making CPE
02:48 tonsofpcs yNos: huh?
02:48 tonsofpcs look at the one product that is RJ21X to 24* RJ45.
02:49 dbshortwave plastic pallet + epoxy textured floor + push = idiots day of WHY WONT THIS MOVE!!!! YOU'RE A HACK GET OFF THE INTERNET!
02:49 tonsofpcs what are those? 3"? maybe 4" whips on each? with MALE connectors?  and just 2 pins used each?   ....
02:50 tonsofpcs lol dbshortwave
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02:50 yNos wonderinghow that keeps wires more organized
02:50 yNos vs a patch panel
02:50 wannabe1987 i'm tired
02:50 tonsofpcs yNos: or, ya know, a proper RJ21X to punchblock breakout...
02:50 tlockley i dont understand where you would want to use that.
02:50 tlockley ever
02:51 masterofmonks wannabe1987: who is this? http://onceuponageek.com/images/tom_baker.jpg
02:51 tonsofpcs tlockley: where you would want to use what?
02:51 Cprossu hey yNos
02:51 yNos i prefer a patch panel over a punchblock
02:51 yNos yeah?
02:51 masterofmonks Other than the obvious of "Tom Baker".
02:51 Cprossu what in the world are those grey rackmounts in mdh?
02:51 tlockley the rj21x thingy
02:51 tonsofpcs yNos: a patch panel for POTS?
02:51 yNos yup
02:51 Cprossu they look interesting
02:51 tonsofpcs tlockley: to trunk a PRI worth of POTS between blocks
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02:51 wannabe1987 hi DruidicRifleman
02:51 DruidicRifleman ah HA yes
02:52 tonsofpcs we use them in radio to trunk audio between blocks in different rooms
02:52 DruidicRifleman woot
02:52 wannabe1987 masterofmonks: how would i know?
02:52 * dbshortwave sighs
02:52 DruidicRifleman made x chat log into here when i open char
02:52 yNos grey rackmounts are old ibm x86crap
02:52 Monkeh masterofmonks: Oh, no, another one.
02:52 DruidicRifleman cahr
02:52 * wannabe1987 pronounces Toastdude the bestest ever
02:52 Cprossu yNos interersting
02:52 tonsofpcs (we use 4-column krone blocks, RJ21X goes to the middle, usage punch goes to the outside)
02:52 tlockley I was more commenting on the breakout thing tonsofpcs. I have dealt briefly with rj21x on some older PBXs
02:54 yNos tonsofpcs: the reason i prefer patch panels is this: you can easily plug an rj11 into an rj45 to use catv as your wire w/o having ro re-wire.. then if you need more ethernet in an area, you unplug the phone and plug the port into a switch.
02:55 yNos also allows later upgrading to voip.
02:55 yNos w/o re-wiring
02:55 Monkeh yNos: Full VoIP setups FTW.
02:55 Monkeh yNos: Especially when you have PoE and connect the PCs through the phones. :)
02:56 roadran422 yNos: How's the phone system?
02:56 wannabe1987 astro73|alice: congrats
02:56 yNos Jeff got the switch and got it all working :D
02:56 astro73|alice wannabe1987: thank you
02:56 wannabe1987 you're welcome
02:56 yNos need to get a little more working, but that wont take much.
02:57 roadran422 Oh, is it operational at least?
02:58 tlockley are you also planning on hooking the PBX into the stack of intercom speakers that got donated?
02:58 wannabe1987 "So, newegg sells carparts and furniture now?" ??
02:58 roadran422 I think it has been for a while?
02:59 yNos tlockley: YES! we need  a PA system to be legal.
02:59 yNos we have a few that are being donated.
02:59 tlockley to be legal?
03:00 Monkeh yNos: right now the PA system is called Lungs, Mk1?
03:00 yNos yup
03:01 yNos to be legal we need a pa system.. to alert of fire/tornado/gas leak/saWzall's arrival.. etc
03:01 tlockley ah, makes sense
03:02 Cprossu .seen nam3o
03:02 BotSteve Cprossu: I last saw Nam3o 28.30 hours ago at 2012-01-10 22:44:44 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:02:27 UTC
03:02 Cprossu ok I musta missed that person
03:02 BatSteve yo
03:02 BotSteve batsteve: I have the following messages for you:
03:02 BotSteve At 01:22Z, Cprossu asked me to tell batsteve that the TGG LAB in creative mode is at :25564 and my survival mode server is at :25565
03:03 BatSteve oh boy!  messages!
03:03 tlockley hey BatSteve
03:03 BatSteve hey tlockley
03:03 Monkeh It's a BatSteve! Everyone run!
03:03 * tlockley runs for the ocean
03:03 Cprossu hey BatSteve what's cookin
03:04 BatSteve Trying to get up the motivation to fix BotSteve's tell function
03:04 BatSteve it's that or go to bed.
03:05 Monkeh BatSteve: WE DEMAND UTF-8!
03:05 BatSteve (oh the exciting life I lead)
03:05 BatSteve doeet yerself!
03:05 yNos Cprossu, do you think Nam3o's real name is bingo?
03:05 BatSteve If you like utf-8 so much why don't you marry it?!
03:05 BatSteve (:
03:05 Toastdude BatSteve!
03:06 Monkeh BatSteve: Celibate, I swear! :P
03:06 Toastdude Would you like to marry it? Well I won't let you! How does that feel?
03:07 wannabe1987 hi BatSteve!
03:07 wannabe1987 please fix the tell function....
03:08 wannabe1987 i'll give you a cookie....
03:08 BatSteve hi toast!
03:08 BatSteve and hi kelly!
03:08 BatSteve wannabe1987: don't think it hasn't been bugging me
03:08 BatSteve I really want it fixed
03:08 wannabe1987 hell, if i had more $$ i'd send you a box of cookies...
03:08 BatSteve but I had to fix seen before I could fix tell.
03:08 wannabe1987 wait, seen is fixed?
03:08 wannabe1987 .seen lwq1996
03:08 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw lwq1996 742.46 hours ago at 2011-12-12 04:41:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:08:54 UTC
03:08 wannabe1987 ....
03:09 tlockley what was broken about seen/tell?
03:09 wannabe1987 its stuck in 2011 for lee
03:09 wannabe1987 .seen tlockley
03:09 tlockley *was/is
03:09 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw tlockley 0.00 hours ago at 2012-01-12 03:09:11 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:09:17 UTC
03:09 tlockley hey
03:09 wannabe1987 what?
03:09 tlockley wannabe1987
03:10 BatSteve wannabe1987: seen used to not work for people who weren't registered with nickserv
03:10 BatSteve now it works for everyone
03:10 wannabe1987 ahhhh
03:10 wannabe1987 its still borked for lee :P  (see above)
03:11 wannabe1987 its stuck in last year :P
03:11 tonsofpcs has lwq1996 talked this year?
03:11 wannabe1987 yes
03:11 wannabe1987 he talked last night
03:11 wannabe1987 as lwq1996 not leepod
03:11 tonsofpcs ah, yes
03:11 tonsofpcs 01:33:25 < lwq1996> night
03:12 tonsofpcs that's today, UTC-0500
03:12 tonsofpcs 01:37:27 -!- lwq1996 [~IceChat77@h88.105.21.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds]
03:13 BatSteve huh
03:13 BatSteve .seen lwq1996
03:13 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw lwq1996 742.55 hours ago at 2011-12-12 04:41:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:13:54 UTC
03:14 BatSteve dag
03:14 BatSteve .seen wannabe1987
03:14 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw wannabe1987 0.04 hours ago at 2012-01-12 03:11:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:14:07 UTC
03:14 wannabe1987 yes?
03:14 wannabe1987 :P
03:16 wannabe1987 .weather alyeska, AK
03:16 BotSteve PAFR: no such ICAO code, or no NOAA data
03:16 wannabe1987 .tfw alyeska
03:16 BotSteve Unknown location
03:16 wannabe1987 its in alaska, stupidbot
03:16 tlockley .tfw KACK
03:16 BotSteve Unknown location
03:17 tlockley .tfw ACK
03:17 BotSteve 61°F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Jacksonville, FL!  'OH NO. THE WEATHER MACHINE IS BROKEN.'
03:17 wannabe1987 they've gotten 414" of snow....
03:17 tonsofpcs $70 tablet, worth it?  http://www.icemonkey.com/mid-google-android-7-tablet-pc-with-color-touch-screen-wi-fi-2-2-os-and-expansion-slot
03:17 BotSteve Title: MID Google Android 7" Tablet PC with Color Touch-Screen, Wi-Fi, 2.2 OS and Expansion Slot
03:18 tlockley .weather KACK
03:18 BotSteve Cloudy, 41.0℉ (5℃), 30.08in (1015mb), Moderate breeze 12kt (↑) - KACK 02:53Z
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03:24 wannabe1987 hi Sashi
03:24 IsopropylAlcohol hey
03:24 wannabe1987 sup?
03:28 wannabe1987 mmmm nutella
03:28 IsopropylAlcohol lol nutella
03:29 wannabe1987 its not on Toastdude, just on untoasted bread
03:31 * wannabe1987 pokes killakee
03:34 yNos tonsofpcs: am interested...
03:36 tonsofpcs yNos: hmm? in the tablet?
03:36 Experimentonomen *burp*
03:36 tonsofpcs I'm not.  No bluetooth :(
03:36 wannabe1987 hi
03:36 tonsofpcs cheapest tablet with bluetooth I found is a 3" tablet.... note: I want bluetooth to tether with my cellphone.
03:36 yNos same complaint here.. but for a cheap disposable, not bad..
03:37 yNos i want bt for voip
03:38 tonsofpcs also, all these cheap ones run ... F... Froyo?
03:38 astro73|alice it's amazing what you can do with a 3" touch screen
03:38 tonsofpcs wtf!? gilbert godfried playing a cop on L&O?
03:39 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: right.  I already have one.  On my cellphone.
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03:40 BatSteve tonsofpcs: did he tell the aristocrats joke?
03:40 tonsofpcs BatSteve: no, he was reading off times from a computer screen
03:41 tonsofpcs like, on the new L&O SVU that's airing right now
03:41 BatSteve aristorcrats joke is better.
03:41 BatSteve *aristocrats
03:41 Cprossu gilbert gottfried told it best
03:41 Cprossu TOO SOON!?
03:43 yNos too soon?
03:43 yNos for what?
03:44 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGVL_reIuJM
03:44 BotSteve Title: Gilbert Gottfried Aristocrats joke - YouTube
03:44 Cprossu ^ watch this
03:49 Cprossu I meant to do this one shit
03:49 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VE2VVbpZ7w&amp;feature=related
03:49 BotSteve Title: Gilbert Gottfreid Roasts Hugh Hefner - YouTube
03:49 Cprossu oh well
03:50 BatSteve "They might have to tone some of this down for TV"
03:50 Cprossu heheheehehe
03:50 BatSteve Cprossu: this isn't the full joke though
03:51 BatSteve there's another one where he's sitting at a desk and he tells the whole thing
03:51 Cprossu BatSteve find it then
03:51 Cprossu without coats
03:51 Cprossu or cuts
03:51 Cprossu *lol coats*
03:51 BatSteve Cprossu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw10xa_xtNg
03:51 BotSteve Title: Gilbert Gottfried Aristocrats Joke - YouTube
03:52 IsopropylAlcohol any luck with gmod cprossu?
03:52 BatSteve Cprossu: starts at 1:25
03:52 Cprossu rofl the intro is still funny
03:52 Cprossu IsopropylAlcohol I am working on it
03:53 BatSteve "Including the dog, who takes his leash off"
03:53 * BatSteve suddenly realizes that he probably should have linked this in NSFW.
03:53 BatSteve oh well.
03:53 * BatSteve looks for where the "lumberjack arms" part is.
03:54 tonsofpcs http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Acer+-+Iconia+Tablet+with+8GB+Memory+-+Steel+Blue/3245029.p?id=1218388672398&amp;skuId=3245029&amp;cmp=RMX&amp;ref=06&amp;loc=01&amp;ci_src=14110944&amp;ci_sku=3245029 looks interesting, yNos...
03:54 BotSteve Title: Acer - Iconia Tablet with 8GB Memory - Steel Blue - A100-07U08U
03:55 BatSteve found it.  3:30
03:55 BatSteve Longshoreman arms.
03:56 Cprossu BatSteve lol
03:56 Cprossu popeye arms
03:56 Cprossu lol
03:58 BatSteve popeye arms
03:58 BatSteve yeah
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03:58 BatSteve hey lwq1996
03:58 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGA0dIz9-Wk&amp;feature=related hahahahah 9:50?!
03:58 BotSteve Title: Gilbert Gottfried: The Aristocrats - YouTube
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03:58 wannabe1987 hi lwq1996 :D
03:58 wannabe1987 and kate
03:58 lwq1996 hey batsteve
03:58 Katemonster hi
03:58 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FukYIJhc_C8
03:58 BotSteve Title: Gilbert Gottfried on Joan Rivers vagina - YouTube
03:58 BatSteve .seen lwq1996
03:58 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw lwq1996 743.29 hours ago at 2011-12-12 04:41:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:58:46 UTC
03:58 BatSteve see, that's totally wrong. ):
03:59 wannabe1987 kate: did you watch that one vid that eakin posted?  (you said to remind you....so i am)
03:59 Katemonster i watched....
03:59 Katemonster part of it.
03:59 Katemonster the first minute and a half
03:59 lwq1996 bats whats wrong with the bot
03:59 Katemonster then i started lighting shit on fire.
03:59 wannabe1987 i haven't watched any of it
03:59 wannabe1987 he says you  haven't been here since 2011
03:59 wannabe1987 :P
04:00 tonsofpcs I kinda want one of these: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/iconia
04:00 BotSteve Title: ICONIA
04:02 Cprossu I'd just fuck up a perfectly good touchscreen
04:03 lwq1996 batsteve your broken
04:03 Cprossu also I hate feeling like I've been bashing my fingers into a plate of glass with photoninduction's 'ammer
04:04 tonsofpcs Cprossu: well, the name is better than their netbook naming...
04:04 Cprossu you mean AOD150 and AOD250 aren't good enough tonsofpcs?
04:04 tonsofpcs I mean, who doesn't want an "Aspire One Happy 2" or three...
04:05 tonsofpcs it comes in four fruity colors!
04:06 Cprossu yikes
04:06 tonsofpcs http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/series/aspireonehappy2
04:06 BotSteve Title: Aspire One Happy 2 | Product Series
04:06 tonsofpcs seriously, ctrl+f "fruity"
04:06 Cprossu wow what the fuck were they smoking?
04:06 BatSteve lwq1996: the bot is broken..i don't know why
04:06 BatSteve want to help me fix him?
04:06 tonsofpcs Cprossu: sorry, gotta answer that in #TGG:NSFW
04:14 wannabe1987 http://www.fox17online.com/news/fox17-police-suspicious-man-had-bed-stuffed-animals-candy-in-van-20120111,0,2211526.story ....
04:14 BotSteve Title: Police: Suspicious Man Had Bed, Stuffed Animals, Candy in Van - FOX 17
04:15 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: and they didn't think he was suspicious until they found the candy, right?
04:15 wannabe1987 i don't know :P
04:15 wannabe1987 he was meeting 14 year old girls, and he was 19....thats not suspicious at all :P
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04:16 wannabe1987 which side is starboard?
04:16 yNos .g starboard
04:16 BotSteve yNos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_and_starboard
04:16 wannabe1987 doesn't help
04:16 wannabe1987 i'm reading an article, i don't want a new link
04:17 yNos look at the pics on top..
04:17 tonsofpcs the side away from port.
04:17 wannabe1987 thanks tonsofpcs
04:17 lwq1996 apllo 18 really fucking creepy
04:18 tlockley i cant take a movie like that seriously
04:19 wannabe1987 http://www.askthepilot.com/essays-and-stories/the-exploding-toilet-and-other-embarrassments-not-all-mistakes-are-fatal-some-are-worse/  he put dry ice (not reg ice) down an airplane toilet
04:19 BotSteve Title: THE EXPLODING TOILET AND OTHER EMBARRASSMENTS. Not all Mistakes are Fatal. Some are Worse. | Ask the Pilot
04:19 tonsofpcs (well, really, port is the side away from the starboard, but that's a different discussion alltogether)
04:19 tonsofpcs (read the wikipedia article for details)
04:22 wannabe1987 well, i learned to never put dry ice in an airplane toilet
04:22 lwq1996 why?
04:22 wannabe1987 http://www.askthepilot.com/essays-and-stories/the-exploding-toilet-and-other-embarrassments-not-all-mistakes-are-fatal-some-are-worse/
04:22 BotSteve Title: THE EXPLODING TOILET AND OTHER EMBARRASSMENTS. Not all Mistakes are Fatal. Some are Worse. | Ask the Pilot
04:23 wannabe1987 read, or tl;dr version: IT EXPLODES
04:23 wannabe1987 the chemicals interact and blue water stuff goes everywhere
04:25 BatSteve Heh I remember that.
04:26 wannabe1987 lol
04:28 tonsofpcs it was you, wasn't it? :)
04:29 BatSteve No comment.
04:30 BatSteve :P
04:31 wannabe1987 lol
04:36 wannabe1987 EXTERMINATE
04:36 wannabe1987 http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/haiti011112/s_h04_RTR2VW8W.jpg  what a lot of legs
04:37 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Starboard is right.
04:37 wannabe1987 thank you...i knew someone loved me :)  (i don't need more links)
04:37 Cprossu wannabe1987 someone's alone in an apartment and can't walk, lots of them
04:37 Cprossu and their screaming mad
04:37 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Yes you do. :P
04:37 Cprossu flailing one leg
04:37 wannabe1987 no, i had about 15 open at that time....tabs are bad
04:37 Cprossu also one guy is in pain due to not having a back brace
04:38 wannabe1987 http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/01/haiti-2-years-after-the-quake/100222/  what i'm reading....tomorrow is the two year anniversary....
04:38 BotSteve Title: Haiti: 2 Years After the Quake - Alan Taylor - In Focus - The Atlantic
04:38 Cprossu damn prosthetics thiefs
04:41 Experimentonomen *fjojjnk*
04:42 wannabe1987 hi Experimentonomen
04:46 Experimentonomen guten morgen miss
04:46 BatSteve wow
04:46 BatSteve I am made of fail
04:46 BatSteve You answered 32 of 50 questions correctly for a total score of 64%.
04:46 wannabe1987 how?
04:46 BatSteve http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/1209/Are-you-scientifically-literate-Take-our-quiz
04:47 BotSteve Title: Are you scientifically literate? Take our quiz - Composing about 78 percent of the air at sea level, what is the most common gas in the Earth's atmosphere? - CSMonitor.com
04:47 Experimentonomen nitrogen :P
04:47 Katemonster nitroglycerin
04:47 Cprossu piece of awesome: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.minix/msg/b813d52cbc5a044b
04:47 BotSteve Title: What would you like to see most in minix? - comp.os.minix | Google Groups
04:48 wannabe1987 whoa, you actually get to see BA/dave doing work.....
04:52 wannabe1987 DruidicRifleman: watch the 1-9-12 vid, he does a tour of the basement for the minecraft lab thing.  do you still need photos?
04:54 DruidicRifleman hmmmm
04:54 DruidicRifleman coools
05:00 Cprossu * wannabe1987 we're getting pretty close
05:01 wannabe1987 good.  still need any photos?  depending on the weather, i'm prolly going to the lab friday
05:01 wannabe1987 aka if it doesn't sn*w much, i will go, if it does, i'll stay home and make cookies
05:02 BatSteve you and snow have an interesting relationship, wannabe
05:02 wannabe1987 i dislike it much
05:02 wannabe1987 i dislike driving in it
05:02 wannabe1987 i like this winter, nice and warm and snowless!
05:06 wannabe1987 fuck.  if i drink 750cc of water before bed, how many times will i wake up to pee during the night?
05:06 masterofmonks wannabe1987: sneak a bedpan home with you?
05:07 wannabe1987 ugh.  those are freaking annoying to get people on
05:07 wannabe1987 and i don't want a used bedpan!
05:07 masterofmonks Chamber pot?
05:07 wannabe1987 bathroom isn't too far away
05:07 wannabe1987 i just want to know how fast water will get through my system....
05:08 BatSteve wannabe1987: depends on how dehydrated you are
05:08 masterofmonks Depends on you.
05:08 wannabe1987 yes ik now
05:08 wannabe1987 momma taught me that much...
05:08 wannabe1987 why are they putting plastic on the windows at the lab?
05:10 masterofmonks reduce thermal loss would be my guess.
05:10 exor674 wannabe1987: I am guessing because they leak air like a sive
05:10 wannabe1987 ahhhh...i understand for the basement cuz they need new ones
05:11 wannabe1987 i'm full (of water)
05:12 wannabe1987 i mean, none of my patients drank 750cc today....most was 650cc :P
05:12 wannabe1987 and no, i don't know why its cc vs ml cuz they mean the same thin
05:12 wannabe1987 fg
05:12 wannabe1987 g
05:12 wannabe1987 there.  done w/ water
05:13 masterofmonks wannabe1987: I just finished 1 liter of water.
05:13 BatSteve You know, that's a good question.
05:14 BatSteve A cubic centimeter is always a milliliter, isn't it?
05:14 wannabe1987 yNos: do you know when the semi truck of robotics parts comes in?
05:14 wannabe1987 yeah....in class they said the cc = ml
05:14 masterofmonks BatSteve: I think that assumes standard temperature.
05:14 BatSteve Oh, that might be.
05:14 masterofmonks Where some medications are refrigerated.
05:14 wannabe1987 1 liter = 1000 cc?   i'm 250 off....
05:15 wannabe1987 i need to take my evening pills, so i have to drink more :P
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05:16 Teslaman hi
05:16 BatSteve hey Tesla
05:16 BatSteve how goes
05:17 wannabe1987 hi
05:17 Teslaman good
05:18 BatSteve What brings you here?
05:18 BatSteve First time?
05:18 Teslaman Not shure was watching the cpatians blog and decided to come here and see what goes on.
05:18 wannabe1987 sweet :)
05:18 Cprossu welcome Teslaman!
05:18 wannabe1987 which one, the newest?
05:18 Cprossu you a native of MI by any chance?
05:19 Teslaman Nope, Ohio
05:19 Cprossu ohio? well closer
05:19 Cprossu than I am
05:19 wannabe1987 where in ohio?
05:19 Teslaman toledo area
05:19 wannabe1987 ah.  i lived in ashland/mansfield for a year and a half
05:20 wannabe1987 now i'm back in good ole GR
05:20 BatSteve Welcome, we're glad you're here
05:20 Teslaman Ya i have been there and its hilly haha and your close to The Geek Group then?
05:20 wannabe1987 yes, i'm 20 min away
05:20 wannabe1987 not in any vids tho, thankfully :P
05:21 Teslaman thanks and thats cool i want to go there some time and see the place.
05:21 wannabe1987 you should!  abouts how old are you?  and your geek specialty?
05:22 Teslaman 14 and i would say im a real geek geek why i only made my name teslaman because for the past year i have been trying to figure out how to make the tesla coils i have built work.
05:22 Teslaman wouldnt* sorry
05:23 BatSteve That's ok, my name is BatSteve, and I'm not the one from the videos either.
05:23 wannabe1987 you *sure* your name is BatSteve?
05:23 wannabe1987 :P
05:24 Teslaman haha
05:24 BatSteve Pretty sure.  it says so on the screen.  See?
05:24 wannabe1987 yes, but are you electronics, baking/cooking, computers, HV, vehicles, etc?  (aka geek speciality)
05:24 BatSteve <--- right there
05:24 wannabe1987 o i see it now!  :P  it didn't say it when i met you :P
05:24 BatSteve (grin)
05:24 wannabe1987 (thats cuz there was no screen)
05:25 wannabe1987 your truck has no screens.
05:26 * wannabe1987 needs someone to go to the GR auto show with.... sndwrx?
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05:26 BatSteve Disappointing, isn't it?
05:26 wannabe1987 yeah...esp for a geek like you!
05:27 BatSteve Teslaman: Do you have pictures of your coils?
05:27 wannabe1987 damn....why is the autoshow $10 / person?!
05:28 wannabe1987 yay for discount coupons!
05:29 Coderjoe $10/person isn't terribly expensive
05:30 wannabe1987 true...
05:30 wannabe1987 you going?
05:30 wannabe1987 last year my x paid and he test drove the camero and another vehicle
05:30 TeslaMan_ joined #thegeekgroup
05:30 Toastdude Hello Teslaman
05:30 Toastdude Are you new?
05:31 Coderjoe meh
05:31 wannabe1987 we already established that
05:31 BatSteve He is new, but he seems to be having connection issues?
05:32 wannabe1987 TeslaMan_: i know some people who might be able to help you with your coils....they don't come here often, but they are on facebook.  are you interested?
05:32 wannabe1987 they're TGG's HV guys
05:33 Toastdude Well welcome
05:34 * BatSteve kills the bot
05:34 wannabe1987 NOES!!!
05:34 wannabe1987 .cookie Toastdude
05:34 BotSteve Here you go, Toastdude, I baked you a M&M's cookie!
05:34 wannabe1987 ok
05:34 wannabe1987 you may now
05:34 wannabe1987 :D
05:34 BatSteve (:
05:34 Toastdude Haha, thanks wannabe :)
05:34 BotSteve joined #thegeekgroup
05:34 wannabe1987 is tell getting fixored?
05:34 wannabe1987 you're welcome
05:34 Toastdude .cookie wannabe1987
05:34 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie!
05:34 BatSteve I'm trying
05:35 BatSteve anybody want to join #tgg-bots and start leaving tells for each other?
05:35 wannabe1987 i just left two for toasty
05:35 wannabe1987 oops
05:35 BatSteve I need a bunch of them, at a rate of about one or two per minute
05:35 wannabe1987 Toastdude: join!
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05:40 wannabe1987 lwq1996!!!!!!!!!!! :D
05:40 wannabe1987 you came back :D
05:40 lwq1996 damn updating computer -.-
05:40 wannabe1987 :(
05:41 Psi anyone in here knowledgeable about getting circuit boards made?
05:41 lwq1996 i have some knowledge but not lots
05:42 lwq1996 i know a guy on youtube that might be able to help
05:42 IsopropylAlcohol cprossu! server crashed
05:43 lwq1996 Psi? you gone?
05:44 wannabe1987 IsopropylAlcohol thats why he pinged, no?
05:44 Toastdude Lee!
05:44 IsopropylAlcohol NOOOOOOO
05:45 IsopropylAlcohol I was so close to finishing my project too
05:45 wannabe1987 :(
05:45 wannabe1987 was it not saved?
05:45 IsopropylAlcohol only the first revision then the server died
05:45 * IsopropylAlcohol obligatory sadface
05:46 * wannabe1987 sadpanda
05:48 TeslaMan joined #thegeekgroup
05:48 TeslaMan How big is the building The Geek Group is in?
05:48 wannabe1987 40,000+
05:48 wannabe1987 i think sq feet
05:49 wannabe1987 TeslaMan: i know some people who might be able to help you with your coils....they don't come here often, but they are on facebook.  are you interested?
05:49 Cprossu joined #thegeekgroup
05:49 wannabe1987 wb
05:49 TeslaMan shure im interested
05:49 wannabe1987 are you on fb?
05:49 TeslaMan yup
05:50 wannabe1987 ok.  i sent you a PM
05:50 TeslaMan wher ethe PM's at?
05:50 TeslaMan o i see it
05:52 Cprossu that sure sucked
05:53 IsopropylAlcohol i bet
05:53 BatSteve Cprossu: I think the tell command is fixed for BotSteve...he seems to now be storing more than one tell per person.
05:53 BatSteve I have no idea why he is fixed.
05:53 IsopropylAlcohol heres to hoping my stuff is still there
05:53 BatSteve The only explanation I have is girl power.
05:53 IsopropylAlcohol lol
05:53 IsopropylAlcohol Is that true botsteve?
05:53 BatSteve But if you want to test him out, please feel free to start leaving egregious tells for people.
05:54 BatSteve right BotSteve?
05:54 BotSteve No way
05:54 lwq1996 .seen lwq1996
05:54 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw lwq1996 745.22 hours ago at 2011-12-12 04:41:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:54:08 UTC
05:54 lwq1996 you got to fix that
05:54 BatSteve lwq1996: yeah that part isn't fixed yet.
05:54 BatSteve one thing at a time
05:54 IsopropylAlcohol BotSteve tell BatSteve that you are a silly bot
05:54 lwq1996 what i dont understand is its just for me
05:54 BatSteve (add a : after botsteve)
05:54 IsopropylAlcohol .tell Batsteve derpadoo
05:54 BotSteve Sorry, .tell is not yet implemented.  Use BotSteve: tell
05:54 IsopropylAlcohol ah
05:54 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
05:54 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 0.08 hours ago at 2012-01-12 05:50:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:54:56 UTC
05:55 wannabe1987 .
05:55 IsopropylAlcohol BotSteve: tell BatSteve haderpadoo baderp baderp
05:55 BotSteve IsopropylAlcohol: I'll pass that on when BatSteve is around.
05:57 BatSteve ok
05:57 BotSteve batsteve: I have the following messages for you:
05:57 BotSteve At 05:55Z, IsopropylAlcohol asked me to tell batsteve haderpadoo baderp baderp
05:57 BotSteve At 05:56Z, Toastdude asked me to Tell batsteve ghoti
05:58 BatSteve yeay!
05:58 wannabe1987 :)
05:58 Experimentonomen *yaaaaaaaaaawn**burp**dingdong*
05:59 Cprossu guys
05:59 Cprossu most awesome captcha type thing ever
05:59 Cprossu http://oi41.tinypic.com/10hugzb.jpg
05:59 Cprossu hahahaha
06:00 Experimentonomen LOL XD
06:00 Toastdude Haha
06:00 BatSteve BotSteve: tell astro73|alice that the problem with tell appears to be fixed.  I have no idea how or why.  2nd message to follow.
06:00 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when Astronouth7303 is around.
06:01 Coderjoe http://imgur.com/a/B1Dag#0
06:01 BotSteve Title: ReCaptcha - Imgur
06:01 BatSteve BotSteve: tell astro73|alice that this is the second message
06:01 BotSteve BatSteve: I'll pass that on when Astronouth7303 is around.
06:03 wannabe-zz bed time!  8:30am is coming soon!
06:03 BatSteve Same!
06:04 wannabe-zz sleep well, crazy people (aka lwq1996 and Toastdude and exor674)
06:04 Toastdude Bye wannabe!
06:04 wannabe-zz bye :D
06:04 Sgt_Lemming woot, finally getting to look at our new potential building
06:04 TeslaMan night wannabe
06:04 Sgt_Lemming just have to wait till next friday to do so >_<
06:04 wannabe-zz night TeslaMan, lem
06:04 BatSteve Friday Friday gotta get down on Friday
06:04 wannabe-zz NOES
06:05 BatSteve bedtiem!
06:05 wannabe-zz yes
06:06 TeslaMan night everyone
06:06 Toastdude Night tesla4d
06:06 Toastdude * TeslaMan
06:09 wannabe-zz o.O
06:11 Sgt_Lemming we've looked at the outside of the building a couple of times, but haven't been inside it yet
06:13 Cprossu wow really Sgt_Lemming?
06:13 Sgt_Lemming yeah
06:14 Cprossu go inside, make a lot of noise
06:14 Sgt_Lemming ...?
06:15 Sgt_Lemming good accoustics is not one of our selection criteria for a new building Cprossu :-P
06:18 Cprossu ooooh
06:18 Cprossu ok I totally read that wrong
06:18 Cprossu ok context is everything
06:18 Cprossu never mind!
06:19 Cprossu layers of misconception are a bad thing
06:19 Sgt_Lemming lol
06:19 Sgt_Lemming well done Cprossu
06:20 exor674 Iiiii... read that as
06:20 exor674 "Good accoustics is not one of our selection criteria for building a new Cprossu"
06:21 Sgt_Lemming lol
06:24 lwq1996 night guys its bed time
06:32 Toastdude Night
06:38 lwq1996 botsteve at 4pm tomorrow remind me to play cod
06:38 lwq1996 i fail
06:38 Experimentonomen call of duty sucks anyways
06:39 lwq1996 its mw3 i havent played it barlly yet
06:39 lwq1996 its the only interesting game i find
06:39 Experimentonomen i hate hem running around shootin ppl games
06:40 lwq1996 thats the point of the game
06:41 Coderjoe how about those running around cutting people up with chainsaw games?
06:41 lwq1996 eh stupid
06:42 Coderjoe Experimentonomen: so what do you like?
06:42 lwq1996 portal
06:50 lwq1996 fuck it, damn internet you keep me up
06:50 lwq1996 later i go to bed now
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07:57 angy hello
08:00 tehdark45 hello frenchie :P
08:01 Experimentonomen g'day
08:02 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, you are not Australian :P
08:04 Experimentonomen so what ? :P
08:05 tehdark45 So i duno
08:05 angy Experimentonomen: you crashed tehdark45!
08:05 tehdark45 angy, how?
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09:02 einball hiho
09:02 einball or better: good morning
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09:03 DruidicRifleman hey
09:27 einball Does someone know what shipping costs there are from germany to the us?
09:27 tehdark45 einball, lots
09:28 tehdark45 :P
09:28 einball I fear that :(
09:28 tehdark45 einball, get on amazon and order direct to them
09:28 einball Nope, I got about 1km CAT5 over here
09:29 einball That also has to go away
09:29 tehdark45 you have 3k ft of CAT5? O_o
09:29 einball Err, well .. I told you I was ... a little bit different :)
09:30 tehdark45 lol
09:32 einball o_O over 40€ :o
09:33 einball tgg will also have a laserlab?
09:35 tehdark45 einball, https://wwwapps.ups.com/ctc/request?loc=en_US
09:35 BotSteve Title: UPS Calculate Time and Cost
09:39 einball hm, for a 50lbs package they'd charge me about 500 :D
09:42 einball Maybe I've set a wrong option. DHL (german package delivery) charges me 66€ .. Too much :(
09:42 einball I think it's cheaper if someone actually fly to germany and takes the truckload of things I got in here with him :P
09:43 tehdark45 einball, not with the extra baggage charges
09:43 tehdark45 :P
09:44 tehdark45 Also, we have DHL to  you know?
09:44 tehdark45 And yeah, UPS sucks. They overcharge by alot
09:45 einball DHL is quite cool :)
09:46 einball I have a truckload of things in here... even high voltage tubes.
09:46 einball *high voltage switching
09:46 tehdark45 where in Germany are you?
09:46 einball http://g.co/maps/25bgw
09:46 BotSteve Title: Mühlacker - Google Maps
09:48 BitViper any network routing experts here ?
09:48 tehdark45 BitViper, no, but maybe I can help.
09:48 tehdark45 lol
09:50 BitViper ok short version, have 3 routers, a, b, and c. A is the 'core' and B and C are connected to it with their own subnets ...
09:50 tehdark45 ok
09:50 BitViper ... in order for subnet B to talk to subnet C i only need to add routes to router A right ?
09:51 einball In all three of them
09:51 einball oh no ... router B and C are in the same subnet seen by A?
09:51 tehdark45 Yeah since you basically have 3 separate networks, you will have to let them all know whats going on
09:52 BitViper why all three, wont packets from B to C go to A anyway and thus catch the routes ?
09:52 einball You will have to do routes to B and C if A includes those two routers in the same subnet
09:52 einball BitViper: yes. I've been wrong,s orry
09:53 einball tehdark45: It's enought to add routes to B and C because they are in subnet A so they can talk to each other :)
09:53 tehdark45 true
09:55 BitViper hang on
09:55 tehdark45 I have Cisco Packet Tracer of that helps
09:55 tehdark45 lolol
09:56 tehdark45 einball, it will cost you around CHF 2000 to get to the the lab
09:57 einball I know .. with 20kg limit on my stuff I carry with me .. And then I can't eat anything ;D
09:57 einball Money is always a problem ;)
09:58 tehdark45 how many CHF is in a US$>
09:58 tehdark45 ?*
09:59 einball about the same 1.04
09:59 BitViper einball : so youre saying dont add routes to A, just add routes to B and C ???
09:59 BitViper hrm
09:59 einball BitViper: Well, if router B and C are in A's net, you don't have to
09:59 einball because B and C can actually talk directly
10:00 BitViper A = 10.7.0.254 , B = 10.7.0.1 / 10.7.1.x , C = 10.7.0.2 / 10.7.2.x
10:01 einball so b has to route to 10.7.0.2
10:01 einball and c hast to route to 10.7.0.1
10:01 BitViper hrm, ok, somehow that actually makes sense
10:01 BitViper let me try that
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10:32 BitViper_Lappy daggonit, whats the linux command to show your current directory ?
10:33 einball BitViper: ls
10:34 BitViper no that shows the contents of current directory, i want to know what dir im in
10:34 exor674 pwd
10:34 BitViper yeah that one, tnx
10:35 einball ops, sorry
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10:46 Cj1corbystarlet So who is kickin in the world of txt ?
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12:43 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaVejKZ2MNI
12:43 BotSteve Title: Firework Gone Wrong - YouTube
12:46 einball It didn't go wrong. It just added some epicness to itself :D
12:47 Sgt_Lemming rofl
12:56 einball :>
12:57 Sgt_Lemming yNos, you around?
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13:25 yNos am now
13:25 yNos Sgt_Lemming
13:26 dbshortwave dug myself up out of that mess
13:26 Sgt_Lemming noticed the server you were installing in the latest captains blog
13:26 Sgt_Lemming openbsd?
13:28 yNos yup
13:28 Sgt_Lemming your prefered OS?
13:28 yNos i prefer it for firewalls/routing/server tasks
13:28 yNos on the desktop.. i have no pref
13:30 yNos well
13:30 yNos i prefer BSDs
13:34 Sgt_Lemming better than freebsd?
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13:36 yNos freebsd is more like linux as far as the dev goes.. i prefer code to get checked over and scrutinized by a few people before it gets put into the system tree.
13:36 DruidicRifleman hey yNos
13:37 yNos yes, they are more assholish about things.
13:37 DruidicRifleman if in the next month you hear boden giggling
13:37 DruidicRifleman Blame cprossu
13:37 DruidicRifleman Well if he starts giggling while doing mail
13:37 yNos yes it must conform to style(9)
13:38 yNos DruidicRifleman: he always giggles during male ;)
13:38 yNos oop
13:38 DruidicRifleman LOL
13:38 yNos freudian slip
13:38 yNos nah
13:44 dbshortwave mm intresting
13:45 yNos wha?
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13:47 dbshortwave i think my system fell under attack lastnight around 01:30
13:47 DruidicRifleman you said male instead of male
13:48 dbshortwave crashed my router
13:50 yNos do you have syslogging turned on?
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13:54 wannabe1987 o.O  hi Ponko
13:54 Ponko hey :)
13:55 wannabe1987 sup?
13:55 Ponko not much
14:01 dbshortwave yes i would need to take a look at my devils log of what happend but im too lazy to go down and check it
14:10 wannabe1987 http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrydownes/2012/01/02/why-best-buy-is-going-out-of-business-gradually/1/
14:10 BotSteve Title: Why Best Buy is Going out of Business...Gradually - Forbes
14:23 * wannabe1987 goes to shower.
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14:24 lee-school first time in a while ive been on tgg.org and see that they changed the look
14:24 lee-school i like it
14:35 lee-school anyone here thats awake
14:35 BitViper not that we'll admit to
14:39 tonsofpcs hi
14:39 lee-school hi tonsofpcs, what new today
14:41 yNos gah.. i sit arounf 4 alarmists..
14:41 yNos "tonight's snow storm is going to be just like 78!"
14:41 yNos http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/stories/blizzard1978.php
14:41 BotSteve Title: NWS Detroit/Pontiac -- The Great Blizzard of 1978
14:41 yNos uhhhh
14:41 yNos no
14:42 yNos we dont have the barometric pressures like 78
14:42 yNos .wx
14:42 BotSteve Try .weather London, for example?
14:42 yNos .wx tgg
14:42 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 37.4℉ (3℃), 29.42in (993mb), Light Rain, Mist, Light breeze 4kt (↑) - KGRR, 13:53Z
14:42 yNos off by 40mb?
14:42 lee-school hey guys do you find this funny| whats for dinner, wookie steak, whats it taste like, its a little chewy
14:42 yNos bah, whats 40mb among friends?
14:46 lee-school i got to go later
14:47 * yNos wants a peet weather station
14:47 yNos for tgg...
14:48 yNos or any other weather station that natively handles APRS
14:50 tonsofpcs yNos: maybe bill knows some people that can get a NWS/NOAA weather station from a small airport after it is replaced with a newer model?
14:51 Seroster God damn idiot
14:51 Seroster I got to use a fire extinguisher at school today =)
14:51 tonsofpcs alternatively, maybe he can get some rawinsonde parts and just build one?
14:51 tonsofpcs Seroster: did you get to hit anything but tue fire?
14:51 tonsofpcs *the
14:52 Seroster No
14:52 Seroster And.. It didnt really work either
14:52 tonsofpcs hrm
14:52 Seroster CaptainNiobe, you there?
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14:55 yNos hmm, i didnt think about picking on bill!
14:57 tonsofpcs yNos: that's because you're too nice of a guy :-p
14:57 wannabe-afk lol
15:07 BitViper yNos : more fun to build [y]our own aprs interface for one
15:08 wannabe1987 my body says sleep, my brain says you promised, so you must go help, and my feet say SIT!.  uh oh
15:08 wannabe1987 i think i'll have to go buy coffee on the way :nods:
15:09 BitViper anyone here thats at the lab regularly ? wannabe1987 ?
15:09 BitViper yNos ?
15:10 wannabe1987 whats up?
15:11 BitViper wannabe1987 youre at the lab once in a while right ?
15:12 wannabe1987 yes
15:12 wannabe1987 .weather tgg
15:12 BotSteve Cover Unknown, 1℃, ?mb, Calm 0kt (↑) - KGRR 15:05Z
15:13 wannabe1987 that didn't help
15:13 wannabe1987 .tfw 49428
15:13 BotSteve 37°F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND WET IN Jenison, MI!  'Freezing my balls off IN here'
15:13 wannabe1987 thats better
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15:13 BitViper AAAAARRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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15:13 wannabe1987 i'm at the lab occasiongally but i don't do stuff with technical stuff there....
15:13 wannabe1987 i do clean up or whatever i'm told, really
15:14 BitViper stupid routers
15:14 BitViper wannabe1987 : just wondering if there's a working fridge and microwave there, ie for my chili if i can make it down next week
15:15 wannabe1987 i don't even know.  there is in the new chem lab, but idk if its for "personal"use.....
15:15 yNos back..
15:15 BitViper front
15:15 wannabe1987 ask yNos
15:15 wannabe1987 he' knows more than i do about that stuff :nods:
15:16 yNos Yup, there is a fridge and a microwave.
15:16 yNos since they are working on the basement right now, it may or may not have power.. they try to keep it going..
15:16 BitViper cool, im hoping to get down there this next week, and have threatened to bring chili with me
15:16 yNos what day?
15:17 BitViper not sure yet, but looking at weather forecast prolly early in week, but depends on my ride
15:17 BitViper if was driving self weather wouldnt bother me, but my friend isnt so fond of the weather :)
15:18 BitViper btw yNos, hi from a fellow ham
15:19 BitViper wannabe1987 : why you no get to do tech stuff, they worried you'd show them up ?
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15:22 yNos BitViper: what's your call?
15:23 BitViper see pm
15:25 wannabe1987 BitViper: no, because i am not a techy person
15:26 BitViper ahh
15:26 wannabe1987 i am a cooking/baking geek.
15:26 BitViper well there's plenty of room for all types im sure, and us techies are usually more than happy to teach too
15:27 wannabe1987 o trust me.....jeff enjoyed cookies teh other day.....i'm sure he shared them, as well :P
15:27 wannabe1987 i'm making cookies friday cuz thats not a day to be driving (or so they're saying) so i can stay home and make nomminess
15:27 wannabe1987 reminds me, i need butter
15:28 * wannabe1987 gets to sleep in tomorrow :D
15:31 BitViper yeah tonite and tomorow are supposed to be awsome driving weather along the lakeshore ... *cough*
15:31 wannabe1987 i'm in hudsonville....its between GR and holland
15:32 wannabe1987 we get hit pretty badly
15:32 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude HI
15:32 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when Toastdude is around.
15:32 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell toastdude cookies
15:32 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when Toastdude is around.
15:32 BitViper oh yea, i know where that is, one of the biggest hamfests in michigan is there in the spring
15:32 wannabe1987 where?
15:32 BitViper fairgrounds
15:33 wannabe1987 ahhhh right.  thats cool
15:33 wannabe1987 whell, when you come down for it this spring, we'll have to meet up
15:33 BitViper or maybe next week =P
15:33 wannabe1987 if its a tuesday or a friday, yes.  i work the rest of the days
15:33 wannabe1987 :P
15:34 BitViper but yea, if i make it to the fest, maybe we can make you a ham before then even =P
15:34 wannabe-afk i doubt it, but good luck
15:34 BitViper so i should try to plan for this coming tues then eh ? LOL
15:34 BitViper how often are you at the lab yNos ?
15:34 wannabe-afk yes...tuesday would be good, i have to be in GR by 7 anyway for orchestra
15:34 wannabe-afk but i have to go now.
15:35 BitViper cul
15:41 yNos i go there on thursdays for sure and randomly throughout the week
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15:59 Experimentonomen end of movie
16:00 Experimentonomen all level controld were on maximum after half the movie
16:00 Experimentonomen :P
16:03 BitViper wow, new mc version is out from mojang, and buckit was only 2 seconds behind.
16:05 Experimentonomen i need a better sub :/
16:05 Experimentonomen current one cant handle 200+ watts :/
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16:07 mashpriborintorg hi
16:08 Experimentonomen g'day mash
16:09 mashpriborintorg Thanks eevblog, now I want to get a rudidium frequency standart
16:09 yNos anyone in GR area down for Palace of India?
16:10 sndwrx ooh what time?
16:13 Av_Nekoroms Experimentonomen: i have 2 active 1kw 15" subs
16:14 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/SUVZM.jpg <-- thts my sub and i brought it to severe clipping exceeding xmax quite grossly using the 250 watt amp there on the table
16:16 yNos i am leaving scase at 11:30
16:16 yNos will likely be 11:45 by time i get there.
16:16 sndwrx Okay, another time then.
16:16 Av_Nekoroms Experimentonomen: these http://www.rcf.it/professional-speaker-systems/sub-series/sub-705-as
16:16 BotSteve Title: RCF - SUB 705-AS
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16:17 Experimentonomen Av_Nekoroms, how many watts can u go up to before ur subs exceed xmax ? 50 watts ? 100 watts ?
16:17 azop yNos: have you used any CCA Cat5e?
16:17 Av_Nekoroms Experimentonomen: all 700 they are active
16:18 Experimentonomen my sub hit xmax with just a dinky little 50 watt amp :/
16:18 Experimentonomen and im giving it 250
16:19 yNos CCA Cat5e?
16:19 azop Copper Clad Aluminum
16:19 azop (cheap-o)
16:19 yNos nop, never used it.
16:20 yNos not saying i wouldnt..
16:20 azop okay
16:39 tonsofpcs cca cat5?!?!
16:39 tonsofpcs is that even worth the cost at 23 awg?
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17:02 Experimentonomen hm i think the sub temporarily shorted out, started making loud popping noises with reduced cone movement while making the amp pretty hot
17:03 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, skin effect means that most of the copper in a solid copper ethernet cable is unused
17:07 Sgt_Lemming iirc, on a gigabit cable, .00635mm of the outer diameter of the cable is used, the rest is wasted copper basically
17:16 Sgt_Lemming http://vimeo.com/34731229 <--- just a couple of budgies
17:16 BotSteve Title: The wild budgies of Billabong on Vimeo
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17:25 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr87HeSsxPU
17:26 BotSteve Title: 10Hz subwoofer and amp test - YouTube
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17:30 Andyroo_ Evening y'all :)
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17:39 yNos yawn
17:39 yNos big lunch
17:40 * Sgt_Lemming hands yNos a fresh hot coffee
17:40 Cprossu hey yNos what's brewin'?
17:41 yNos some indian.. and a mango dessert...
17:42 yNos how you doin?
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17:44 dbshortwave you know... just figuring out this whole battle with Photon and Boden.
17:44 dbshortwave chris, gave him credit and said he wanted to give it a try on Gemini
17:44 Sgt_Lemming oh, has more been posted?
17:44 Cprossu doing pretty good so far
17:45 Cprossu a little sick this morning though
17:45 dbshortwave no i found a vid of him slamming chris
17:45 Cprossu yeah that's a mess...
17:45 Sgt_Lemming the "goodbye youtube" one dbshortwave?
17:45 dbshortwave yeah part 1
17:46 dbshortwave want it? its a vid of a vid but you can least HEAR what hes saying
17:46 Cprossu everyone has seen it now I think.
17:46 dbshortwave ah
17:47 dbshortwave ok
17:47 dbshortwave it was kinda douchy on photons part really
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17:48 Sgt_Lemming http://www.bikes.com.au/p/327146/crank-brothers-mallet-1-pedals.html <--- fuck I hate australia bike parts market
17:48 BotSteve Title: Crank Brothers Mallet 1 Pedals bikes.com.au - Biggest Range - Best Prices
17:48 Sgt_Lemming same pedals in the Uk are $80...
17:49 dbshortwave but thats my opinion
17:49 Sgt_Lemming most people would agree with you dbshortwave
17:52 Sgt_Lemming also, fucking hate websites that list products that are out of stock and EOL
17:52 Sgt_Lemming it's like "yay, awesome price!" then you notice they are the old model, and out of stock >_<
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17:59 mashpriborintorg it's somewhat like websites that give wrong positive results in search engines
18:00 mashpriborintorg when you search for service manuals, you get craploads of such issues
18:02 Cprossu rofl guys
18:02 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otcge1cn8Os
18:02 BotSteve Title: CES 2012: Intel demos DX11 on Ivy Bridge based Ultrabook - YouTube
18:02 Cprossu Intel for the LOSS.
18:02 SparkyProjects There was one last night from photon, but he's removed it since, photon isn't really against chris and tgg, and chris relied that he is going to answer te questions raised by photon.
18:03 Cprossu did anyone reupload it somewhere else SparkyProjects
18:03 Cprossu I was asleep
18:03 SparkyProjects No idea
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18:14 ajprog_laptop yNos: you around?
18:16 mashpriborintorg http://youtu.be/kOOkx3LVbBo it makes me think about someone...
18:16 BotSteve Title: Ten Xbox 360s, one variac - YouTube
18:17 Sgt_Lemming woulda been better if he stepped the voltage up
18:18 Sgt_Lemming nothing like putting a few Kv through a motherboard
18:18 Sgt_Lemming speaking of which, I have a dead socket AM2 board that I am gonna try and put 7KVDC across next week
18:20 mashpriborintorg Xbox 360's are pieces of crap, really, they a very fail-reliable, happy I did never purchase one
18:20 Sgt_Lemming yeah, somre pretty poor hardware design on MS's part
18:20 Sgt_Lemming hope they do better with the X720
18:21 mashpriborintorg some more years and there will be not anyome left alive
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18:22 Cprossu *clicks link*
18:23 Sgt_Lemming lol, my wireless trackballs batteries are apparently low
18:23 Sgt_Lemming it only has 110 days of battery life left...
18:24 Sgt_Lemming it uses 1 AA
18:24 yNos ajprog_laptop: am now
18:25 ajprog_laptop can you tell me the ip address for port 10 on the main switch?
18:25 yNos nope
18:26 Cprossu how many network techs does it take to change the ip on the port of a switch?
18:26 ajprog_laptop it is an ip camara, that I want to log into
18:26 Cprossu xD
18:26 yNos main switch? the "office switch", the "core switch" or the "cafe switch"
18:26 ajprog_laptop noc
18:26 yNos ports dont get IPs :P
18:26 Cprossu yeah I know, the switch does
18:26 yNos core and office are in the noc..
18:26 Cprossu the question is what vlan is that port in
18:26 ajprog_laptop the device on port 10 does though
18:26 yNos right.. glass or copper?
18:27 ajprog_laptop I thought we only had the network and phone switch in there?
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18:28 yNos there is the phone switch, the office switch and the core switch.. there is one pc plugged into the core(all fiber), i dont know which port that is though..
18:29 ajprog_laptop oh, I forgot about the fiber
18:29 ajprog_laptop so how do I get the ip address of that camera?
18:30 yNos sw-office#sh int fa0/10
18:30 yNos FastEthernet0/10 is up, line protocol is up
18:30 yNos Hardware is Fast Ethernet, address is 0006.5320.1f8a (bia 0006.5320.1f8a)
18:30 yNos MTU 1500 bytes, BW 100000 Kbit, DLY 100 usec,
18:30 yNos reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255
18:30 yNos Encapsulation ARPA, loopback not set
18:30 yNos Keepalive not set
18:30 yNos Auto-duplex (Full), Auto Speed (100), 100BaseTX/FX
18:30 yNos ARP type: ARPA, ARP Timeout 04:00:00
18:30 yNos Last input never, output 00:00:00, output hang never
18:30 yNos Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
18:30 yNos Queueing strategy: fifo
18:30 yNos Output queue 0/40, 0 drops; input queue 0/75, 0 drops
18:30 yNos 5 minute input rate 1000 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
18:30 yNos 5 minute output rate 84000 bits/sec, 52 packets/sec
18:30 yNos 277 packets input, 115312 bytes
18:30 yNos Received 276 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
18:30 yNos 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored
18:30 yNos 0 watchdog, 276 multicast
18:30 yNos 0 input packets with dribble condition detected
18:30 yNos 75677 packets output, 14639093 bytes, 0 underruns
18:30 yNos 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 1 interface resets
18:30 yNos 0 babbles, 0 late collision, 0 deferred
18:30 yNos 0 lost carrier, 0 no carrier
18:31 yNos 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
18:31 yNos sw-office#sh run | begin FastEthernet0/10
18:31 yNos interface FastEthernet0/10 switchport trunk encapsulation dot1q
18:31 yNos switchport trunk allowed vlan 1-200,1002-1005
18:31 yNos switchport trunk pruning vlan none
18:31 Sgt_Lemming can you say whoops?
18:31 yNos switchport mode trunk
18:31 yNos !
18:31 yNos that is what i have for port 10 on the office switch..
18:31 yNos did the camera pull an address?
18:31 yNos did it try to dhcp
18:31 yNos ?
18:31 Cprossu nah there's nothing there that's an issue @ Sgt_Lemming
18:31 ajprog_laptop the switch has a green light
18:31 Sgt_Lemming 5 minute input rate 1000 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
18:31 Sgt_Lemming [04:30:29] <yNos>   5 minute output rate 84000 bits/sec, 52 packets/sec
18:31 yNos and the sky is grey..
18:32 Sgt_Lemming 0 packets/sec
18:32 Sgt_Lemming ...
18:32 ajprog_laptop I don't know how to tell if it is dchp, or whether it pulled any address?
18:32 yNos yes you do
18:32 JA12 http://www.blendernation.com/2012/01/12/3d-printed-zoetrope/
18:32 yNos you remember the log i had you tail?
18:32 BotSteve Title: 3D Printed Zoetrope | BlenderNation
18:32 yNos tail the log and watch for something to pull an address..
18:33 yNos as you reboot the device.
18:33 yNos look for the mac address on the camera
18:33 ajprog_laptop I checked the lease file, but could find the mac address
18:33 Sgt_Lemming that is very cool JA12
18:33 ajprog_laptop I don't remember doing a tail on anything?
18:33 yNos tail -f /var/log/daemon
18:35 DruidicRifleman whats up
18:36 yNos nmuch,u?
18:37 Sgt_Lemming http://audiofarm.org/audiofiles/11119 <--- the music from that video, quite awesome
18:37 BotSteve Title: Soundrops - military - Soundrops
18:37 yNos ajprog_laptop: since port 10 is a trunk port, i doubt it is the one you want.
18:37 yNos if it is, something is mis-configured.
18:39 ajprog_laptop then name a port to pull it into?
18:40 yNos pick an empty one.
18:40 yNos tell me the number
18:40 ajprog_laptop I did, number 10
18:40 yNos oh
18:41 yNos i can fix that then
18:41 yNos this is a camera?
18:41 yNos so it goes on the security vlan..
18:41 ajprog_laptop it will be wireless once I set it up
18:42 yNos what will be?
18:43 yNos wifi or one of the analog wireless cameras?
18:45 ajprog_laptop ???
18:46 ajprog_laptop they are new IP cameras from bluecherry
18:46 azop Analog wireless is evil
18:47 azop It likes to kill most of the 802.11 channels
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18:59 Cprossu it happens when you wedge an only semi-fault tollerant protocol on a set of devices with an infinite amount of probable faults
19:02 dbshortwave bbl
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19:15 yNos azop: agreed on the analog wireless toys...
19:17 azop I wouldn't use them :\
19:17 yNos me neither
19:18 azop I think we sent over one or two, they might make good autopsy food
19:19 Sgt_Lemming heh
19:19 Sgt_Lemming just playing around with the cheats in Supreme Commander: Forged Alliance
19:19 Sgt_Lemming one of the cheats is copy/paste
19:19 Sgt_Lemming so I built a ring of defence around my base, then selected all the defensive towers, copied them, and pasted them around the enemy base
19:19 Sgt_Lemming twas amusing
19:20 azop ajprog_laptop: which cameras are they?
19:20 ajprog_laptop I am not sure
19:20 Cprossu azop I was thinking they could make some good traffic generators for demonstration networks
19:21 azop Cprossu: as in error generators?
19:21 azop :\
19:21 Cprossu yes.
19:21 azop !
19:21 Cprossu for use in a sandboxed test network
19:21 Cprossu eg for training people
19:21 Cprossu because my god can they fuck things up
19:21 azop tape them to the antenna on the wireless router
19:21 Cprossu HAHAHA\
19:21 azop 802.11g would be even cooler
19:21 Cprossu blinkenlights
19:21 azop one on the third antenna, one on the first
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19:31 yNos angy: you around, by chance?
19:31 CaptainNiobe Seroster, did you want me?
19:31 Seroster I always want to rub oil on you.
19:31 Seroster SparkyProjects, you there?
19:32 Seroster And perhaps mom too?
19:32 Cprossu hrmmm
19:32 SparkyProjects Yep
19:32 CaptainNiobe lol... mom's at work, why?
19:32 Seroster Want to know what idiocy I have to deal with on a day to day basic?
19:32 CaptainNiobe ok?
19:32 Seroster 1, Thank god for CO2 fire extinguishers and eyeshowers.
19:33 Seroster I was in the workshop doing extra work (since I am done with evrything)
19:33 Cprossu no kidding
19:33 Seroster And my classmate comes in, puts something in a vise and starts manipulating it with pliers
19:33 Cprossu have to hold someone into the shower?
19:33 Seroster Then he goes on and gets a hacksaw and starts sawing
19:34 Cprossu what was the object he was manipulating and cutting?
19:34 Seroster Then he says "OHFUCK!" and the table catches on fire.
19:34 Cprossu o_O
19:34 Seroster ... A lithium ion mobile phone battery
19:34 * Seroster headdesks
19:34 Cprossu fucking moron
19:34 Cprossu fuckingggggg moron
19:34 Cprossu at least he didn't take a pry bar to it
19:35 Seroster So after emptying a few liters of carbon dioxide on the thing and explaining to the teacher what the fuck he was doing I asked him why he did it
19:35 CaptainNiobe ... wait... they don't know what fucking around with such a battery does?
19:35 Seroster "I wanted to see if there were small batteries inside"
19:35 Cprossu was it a lipo?
19:35 Cprossu or a lithium ion?
19:35 Seroster Fuck knows, it burned and didnt want to go out
19:35 Cprossu if mobile phone it coulda been either
19:35 Seroster Wasnt much left to look at when it was done
19:36 Cprossu yeah I bet
19:36 Seroster He had no safety glasses
19:36 Cprossu glad he didn't put water on it
19:36 Seroster No burn barrel, no idea what would be inside
19:36 Seroster ... He wanted to -.-
19:36 CaptainNiobe did he cop a growling at by the teacher?
19:36 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog 1-11-12 Viewer Mail, PHONES WORK and Behind the Scenes http://youtu.be/5Z2uNL2pg-c
19:36 Cprossu I'd have shitcanned such a person
19:36 Seroster He will =)
19:37 Seroster His initial reaction - let's get to the sink to get some water, put it out and hope nobody will notice
19:37 Seroster Did I mention I was standing in a huge pile of aluminium shavings? =P
19:37 CaptainNiobe and people wonder why people don't want idiots playing with dangerous shit.
19:37 Seroster But the reason, he thought there were buttoncells inside
19:37 Seroster Fuck kipkay
19:38 Ponko hmm
19:38 Seroster So I more or less booted him out of the room and grabbed the CO2 extinguisher, having no idea it was a battery at the time
19:38 Seroster brb
19:38 CaptainNiobe sero, find a diagram, print it out, takes it to school and get it laminated and put it up on a wall so no one else is tempted to do it - possibly with much worse results...
19:39 CaptainNiobe and find some videos of laptop batteries exploding, to show the result...
19:40 BitViper i say lock such people in an empty dumpster with a few batteries, basic tools, a bucket of water, and a c02 extinguisher ... let darwin figure it out
19:40 SparkyProjects Get the vid where Chris burns a battery :D
19:41 CaptainNiobe HAHA! yeah, chris reacted perfectly to that... LOL!!!
19:43 JA12 he just observed apple product burning itself to avoid tampering
19:44 JA12 iphones are packed with plastic explosives
19:44 BitViper ok guys, the 'downstairs' cap blog from a few days ago, where are they initially, what stairwell is that ?
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19:45 Experimentonomen i know a way to take liion batteries apart, but a load across it until its empty and then take it apart, slowly
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19:46 CaptainNiobe not something you wanna teach schoolkids that are idiots lol
19:47 Seroster Lol
19:47 Seroster "Make sure it's empty first? PAPERCLIP!"
19:47 Sgt_Lemming Experimentonomen, it's no fun doing it then because all the lithium is gone
19:49 Experimentonomen its not gone, just there as a salt rather than metal
19:50 BitViper make sure its empty ... solder heavy wires to each end, and to each end of a blade switch, or better yet just build a "thumper" type deal with holders made for different types of batteries =)
19:51 * mashpriborintorg will treat batteries with extra great care now :p
19:53 Sgt_Lemming putting a lithium cell on thumper would be impressive
19:53 Sgt_Lemming maybe something to try with stompers blast chamber? :-P
19:54 Experimentonomen nah
19:56 Seroster NaOh!
19:56 Seroster =D
19:59 yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMyYlf6yFcg
19:59 BotSteve Title: How To Unlock A Car Door With A Potato - YouTube
20:00 Seroster Throw it through the fucking window
20:00 Experimentonomen yNos, faaaake! :P
20:00 Seroster Preferably with a spudgun
20:01 Sgt_Lemming seroster, working on how to launch a flare from a spudgun atm :-P
20:01 Sgt_Lemming one hell of a tracer round :-D
20:01 Seroster Ha
20:01 Seroster Easy
20:02 BitViper chris needs to introduce the ppl seen in the videos, especially those not regularly seen
20:02 Seroster #tgg:controversial for instructions on how (this is a family channel)
20:02 BitViper *grumble*
20:02 BitViper wait what ? this is a family channel ? crap, that takes all the fun out of things
20:04 yNos Seroster: Experimentonomen: watch it all the way through ;)
20:04 yNos they really do open the door with a potato!
20:04 Seroster We have one subchannel for porn and one for other not family shit
20:05 Ponko Seroster http://www.damnlol.com/sweden-then-and-now-6911.html wtf did happen
20:05 BotSteve Title: Sweden Then... And Now - Damn! LOL
20:06 Cprossu g/j yNos
20:06 Cprossu just saw the blog heh
20:06 Seroster Oh bugger off Ponko
20:06 Ponko lol
20:07 Seroster Guess what the vikings were doing... Yeah, raping your ancestors motherfucker =P
20:07 Ponko Seroster well least they didn't look like your current relatives
20:07 Ponko ;)
20:16 yNos Cprossu: thanks
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20:28 roadran4221 hey yall
20:29 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ek3obo8bY&amp;feature=related
20:29 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 1-7-11 To the Idiot Electrician - YouTube
20:31 roadran422 xD
20:31 roadran422 Ik that lol
20:33 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: right, I get that, but is it really cheaper to extrude alum and coat it in copper than to just extrude copper?
20:33 Seroster Yes
20:33 Seroster It is
20:33 tonsofpcs Seroster: at 23/24 awg?
20:33 Sgt_Lemming far Far FAR cheaper
20:33 Seroster A LOT cheaper
20:33 Seroster 1, materials cost
20:34 Sgt_Lemming copper is like 20 - 30x the price of aluminium atm
20:34 Seroster 2, stretching copper is a bitch
20:34 Seroster 3, copper plating is a nobrainer
20:34 Sgt_Lemming aluminium is one of the most abundant metals around
20:34 tonsofpcs anyone that pulls wire:  ( yNos, Cprossu, you two talking) : I've got poly/nylon/whatever pull wire in place.  Any tricks to connecting it to a cable with a delicate connector so you don't damage the connector or the strain relif portion?
20:35 Seroster Electrical tape
20:35 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: yea, I just wouldn't think that it would be worthwhile at such a low guage
20:35 Sgt_Lemming connect it to the cable behind the connector
20:35 Seroster What kind of connector is it? Ethernet?
20:35 tonsofpcs HDMI
20:35 tonsofpcs XLRs are easy, you stuff them with paper and create a taper, the string can tie to the 'hood' portion ;)
20:35 tonsofpcs ethernet is relatively easy to taper as well.
20:36 Seroster Cya folks, garbage time.
20:36 tonsofpcs HDMI eludes me.  Although I guess i could create a cylindrical cover for it and taper that....
20:36 tonsofpcs cya garbage
20:36 tonsofpcs *seroster's garbage
20:36 Seroster :c
20:36 * Seroster kicks tonsofpcs
20:36 tonsofpcs :)
20:36 tonsofpcs well, you come back, the garbage doesn't, right? :)
20:36 Superphosphate Hello Seroster
20:37 Superphosphate and Hello Electricguy
20:37 Electricguy hi hi :)
20:37 Seroster Hello/goodbye Superphosphate
20:37 tonsofpcs so any tricks for safely pulling an HDMI connector?
20:37 Superphosphate ok if you want to be like that Seroster ! :-p
20:38 Experimentonomen g'day Superphosphate
20:38 Superphosphate G'day Experimentonomen
20:40 Superphosphate Hubby wanted to buy me a branch mulcher today but I stupidly said no
20:40 Superphosphate I was so tempted but the branches could only be 4 cm wide
20:40 KB3NZQ tonsofpcs how far do you have to pull it and do you have to cross through any stud bays?
20:42 tonsofpcs KB3NZQ: 30' or so, through building steel trussing
20:43 Experimentonomen Superphosphate, those silly mulchers suck anyways, get something like a DR chipper instead, works much better than those small garden mulcker pieces of jank
20:43 KB3NZQ i have only pulled hdmi through 1 stud bay just 6 foot of cable for a flat pannel tv
20:43 tonsofpcs what do you mean by a 'stud bay' ?
20:43 tonsofpcs the holes in those aluminum studs?
20:45 tonsofpcs I'm pulling it through X-crossed angle irons that make up the roof support (building steel) at about 18-20' AGL.  Ladder lets us reach 14' AGL.  we put a weight on the poly and tossed it through the trusses to make a run.  We now need to pull the cable through
20:46 KB3NZQ yes
20:46 tonsofpcs someone else suggested using plastic from a soda bottle to make a tapered 'enclosure' for the connector and I kinda like that idea
20:46 KB3NZQ i would pull 2 cat 5 or cat 6 runs and use http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-12741
20:46 BotSteve Title: Iogear HDMI Cat5e/Cat6 Audio & Video Extender | GVE320 | Iogear
20:47 KB3NZQ or other hdmi extender
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20:49 KB3NZQ .log
20:49 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
20:54 KB3NZQ ping
20:54 Seroster Borkborkbork
20:54 Seroster Hello Superphosphate
20:55 yNos gah
20:55 yNos meeting over
20:55 yNos time to roll
20:55 yNos see ya on teh interwarbs
20:55 Superphosphate hi ho
20:56 yNos hi ho, adios!
20:56 * yNos wavevs
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21:02 injektion I'm considering sending in a GA state flag but I don't know which one to send in
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21:04 injektion To keep the rednecks happy they had to do this http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/flags/images/ga_fil.gif
21:04 Ponko the one in Atlanta would be the best one after all its GA Capitol if i'm not mistaken
21:05 injektion http://www.netstate.com/states/symb/flags/images/ga_1956p.gif
21:06 injektion They changed it again
21:06 Ponko hmm
21:06 injektion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Georgia_(U.S._state).svg
21:06 BotSteve Title: File:Flag of Georgia (U.S. state).svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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21:07 dbshortwave i <3 Sanyo
21:07 Sgt_Lemming ...?
21:08 dbshortwave the other day i got a Sanyo TV from the salvation army
21:08 dbshortwave CRT type
21:08 dbshortwave it came with a gunked up remote
21:08 Ponko hmm
21:08 dbshortwave and you hand to mash the buttons to make it work
21:08 dbshortwave lol
21:09 dbshortwave cleaned it up and the set it came with i didnt have plugged in to test
21:10 dbshortwave i used my 42" LCD to test it with and it talks to that panel and every button does what it suppose to
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21:13 Ponko injektion you've inspired me to send this in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Bedfordshire.svg
21:13 BotSteve Title: File:Flag of Bedfordshire.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
21:19 dbshortwave hmm
21:19 injektion Not the 3 sea shells
21:24 Sgt_Lemming someone needs to send in the flag of the Isle of Man
21:24 Sgt_Lemming Mann even
21:28 Ponko injektion|nap: why not?
21:29 Ponko you're sending a flag of your state and that's what i plan to do
21:36 Superphosphate Goodnight peoples
21:36 Seroster cya super
21:37 Superphosphate happy snoring :)
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21:41 SparkyProjects Sgt_Lemming, someone down there needs to send a Brissie flag
21:43 Sgt_Lemming eh
21:44 Sgt_Lemming http://www.flags2000.com/flag.htm?cref=A9,A92,A107,A173,AA9,AAA92,AAA9,AAA107
21:44 BotSteve Title: Flagworld Queensland State Flag
21:44 dbshortwave yelling out "shaddap stupid" at random will get you some funny looks lmao
21:44 SparkyProjects List says there's a queensland flag
21:46 Sgt_Lemming link to list?
21:46 SparkyProjects https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AueurOzm0gNCdEVOUjdPX0FvSTlZVmlENEc2MmUxd2c&amp;hl=en_US&amp;pli=1#gid=0
21:46 BotSteve Title: Welcome to Google Docs
21:47 Seroster Hey masterofmonks
21:47 Seroster I just repaired a bike tyre with duct tape
21:48 Sgt_Lemming http://www.flags2000.com/flag.htm?cref=N86 <--- just to futz with chris :-P
21:48 BotSteve Title: Flagworld Flag of Kiribati
21:48 SparkyProjects I've repaired an inner tube with insulating tape before :P
21:48 SparkyProjects In my young days of cycling
21:49 Sgt_Lemming eh, I've repaired a bike tyre with a $5 note before :-P
21:49 Ponko SparkyProjects: could i donate the Beds flag?
21:49 Seroster I might send Chris a Scania seal,  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ab/Sk%C3%A5ne_vapen.svg/251px-Sk%C3%A5ne_vapen.svg.png
21:50 SparkyProjects Sure Ponko, they'll accept any flag
21:50 SparkyProjects Yhe collection is supposed to represent each place a member is from
21:50 Ponko ah yes
21:50 Ponko i was trying to find one with the Luton crest
21:50 astro73|alice for the record: my coworkers are bad people.
21:50 BotSteve astronouth7303: I have the following messages for you:
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21:50 Sgt_Lemming lol
21:50 astro73|alice huh. weird
21:51 Ponko ok?
21:51 astro73|alice do not leave your computer unsecured at my workplace
21:51 SparkyProjects Ponko, you could send a Luton Town flag too :P
21:51 astro73|alice they will send out emails in your name, and you will be persecuted for it.
21:51 SparkyProjects one with a crest
21:51 Ponko yeah i'll find one somewhere
21:52 Ponko probably have one from the 2009 Johnstones Paint Trophy final
21:53 SparkyProjects Ponko, something like this http://media.photobucket.com/image/luton%20flag/king_prawn95/LutonTown.jpg
21:53 BotSteve Title: Luton flag image by king_prawn95 on Photobucket
21:53 SparkyProjects oops, that didn't show :/
21:54 Ponko showing me something i have on a T-Shirt :P
21:54 SparkyProjects ah, ok
21:54 Ponko i'll find a flag of that
21:56 Ponko http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/4/a3a985215f7d4b9cbba64a6112df03ee/l.jpg i doubt that's for sale at the Kenny
21:56 Sgt_Lemming http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fd/Flag_of_FOTW.svg <--- nother good one to send chris
21:57 SparkyProjects That'll fox him :)
21:58 Ponko http://www.midland-flags.com/ good site
21:58 BotSteve Title: Buy Flags | Online Flag Shop | Bunting | Hand Waving Flags | - Buy Flags
21:59 SparkyProjects Ponko, cheapest option is to ship direct, just check that site allows it
21:59 Ponko hmm i will
21:59 Ponko but tbh i'd want one for myself
21:59 masterofmonks Seroster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRSsxUjulLY
21:59 BotSteve Title: Dimmu Borgir Burn in Hell - YouTube
21:59 Ponko and i can hardly go to the kenny and ask if they ship to the us.....
21:59 SparkyProjects You can mention in a blog just after you post it, so hopefully Chris knows to expect it and who it's from
22:00 * Ponko goes and checks LTFC clubshop
22:00 masterofmonks Seroster: I curse you with Norwegian Black Metal.
22:00 Ponko i'll pm him on facebook
22:00 SparkyProjects I used theflagshop.co.uk when i sent mine
22:01 Ponko ah
22:01 SparkyProjects and you want 5x3
22:01 Ponko hmm i was thinking about sending a LTFC shirt over there possibly a Hitchin shirt too
22:02 SparkyProjects OOh, they have a Harley flag, someone should send that to Chris
22:02 Ponko Harley Davidson
22:02 Ponko FTW
22:02 SparkyProjects http://www.midland-flags.com/USA-Collectors-Flags/c55/index.html?oscsid=f1cf918ff16ceaa38522a81a9ff0d324
22:02 BotSteve Title: USA Collectors Flags Buy Flags | Online Flag Shop | Bunting | Hand Waving Flags | - Buy Flags
22:03 Ponko Hugh Davidson has just scored his brother Harley will be well pleased with that
22:03 tonsofpcs so, ended up using 'legs' from stackable shelving thing that used stackable hollow tubes to make legs idfferent heights, two of them frictioned together with strings between made sure that the stress wasn't on the cable, used half hitches along the cable on the 'new' side to make it stay in place and provide some strain relief, wrapped connector inside in paper and created taper with paper, used gaffers tape at the paper/cyland
22:04 Ponko Gareth Jelliman sent off for Mansfield
22:04 Ponko hope he didn't throw a wobbly
22:04 tonsofpcs (connector in the middle of the cylanders)
22:07 SparkyProjects Some flags just being put on the wall above VSL
22:08 SparkyProjects looks like the army flags etc
22:08 Av_Nekoroms yarrrmy
22:10 Ponko http://www.hattersshop.co.uk/ols/index.php?act=viewProd&amp;productId=215 lol can you see chris in that SparkyProjects ;)
22:10 BotSteve Title: Luton Town FC - Carbrini Luton Town Home Shirt Men&#39;s 2011/13
22:10 Seroster Ever gone to the store to get a few liters of milk, shopped for $200 and forgetting the milk?
22:10 Seroster And I just fucked up the past tense A LOT there. Please spank me.
22:10 SparkyProjects hehe Ponko :D
22:11 Ponko lol i wonder how he'd react?
22:12 SparkyProjects Don't think i'd want to spend £35 to find out :P
22:13 Ponko lol
22:13 Ponko i have one of those in my room
22:13 Seroster How old are you Toastdude?
22:14 Toastdude 13..
22:14 Toastdude almost 14
22:15 Ponko nearly time for bumps
22:17 roadran422 Anything new?
22:17 roadran422 I'm 14 almost 15 in july.
22:18 masterofmonks Almost as in half a year away?
22:18 roadran422 Yes..
22:18 roadran422 It hasn't been july yet so it has to be half a year.
22:18 roadran422 *It isn't july
22:19 masterofmonks Since when is 50% "almost"?
22:19 roadran422 :P
22:19 roadran422 Well, half a year and 6 days :P
22:20 masterofmonks What kind of math are you failing to learn in school?
22:20 Seroster Right
22:20 roadran422 :P
22:20 roadran422 Whatever, close enough to half a year, just 6 days over.
22:21 masterofmonks July is the 7th month.
22:21 roadran422 Yes.
22:21 masterofmonks of 12.
22:21 masterofmonks less than halfway through the first month.
22:22 roadran422 A little more than 6 Months . 6 + 1st month (Feburary) + 12th day (which is today) + 6 days (till the 18th)
22:22 Electricguy going to bed now! night night all :)
22:22 roadran422 Night Electricguy
22:23 masterofmonks So you were born on the 18th of July 1997, in California, and you currently live in Bradenton, Florida"
22:23 roadran422 Yes masterofmonks Stalker :P
22:23 roadran422 Jk, you remember xD
22:24 masterofmonks I have a freakish memory.
22:24 roadran422 I do too... What's my name ehh?
22:24 masterofmonks Also you are disturbingly loose with your information.
22:24 Toastdude Yeah..
22:24 masterofmonks I have not seen you use it.
22:24 roadran422 xD
22:24 roadran422 Idk, no one's gonna kill me.
22:24 Seroster What is my girlfriends haircolour?
22:24 Seroster I wouldnt bet on that, roadran422.
22:24 roadran422 Blonde like you ;)
22:25 Toastdude Brown
22:25 masterofmonks Seroster: It was dark ,ast time I was with her.
22:25 Seroster Your cum must have bleached it.
22:25 Toastdude ....
22:25 roadran422 If anyone was going to kill me, I have chat log and most of yall be a suspect...
22:25 roadran422 Seroster: :P
22:25 Seroster I've got an alibi. I'm on the other side of the globe.
22:26 Toastdude Yes, and I'm northish..
22:26 roadran422 What's the chemical in spermicide?
22:26 masterofmonks roadran422: Just go buy some.
22:27 roadran422 masterofmonks: Yah like the pharmacist would let me xD
22:27 Toastdude Hydroflouric acid could be one, couldn't it?
22:27 SparkyProjects 2 bricks are cheaper masterofmonks :P
22:27 * masterofmonks gives Toastdude *THE* look.
22:27 SparkyProjects :D
22:27 roadran422 masterofmonks: !
22:27 roadran422 Silence him!
22:27 roadran422 xD
22:27 masterofmonks roadran422: he is not you.
22:27 roadran422 Toastdude: no it isn't :)
22:28 roadran422 What?
22:28 masterofmonks He just gets the look.
22:28 Toastdude Hydroflouric acid can destroy pretty much anything, so I would think it could destroy cells..
22:28 roadran422 Wow.
22:28 roadran422 lol
22:28 Toastdude Not like it's redily available..
22:28 Fluorine What now.
22:28 Toastdude If only I were still an op...
22:28 masterofmonks Toastdude: You can buy it every day at the gorcery store.
22:29 Toastdude ...
22:29 * Experimentonomen pours drain cleaner down roadran's pands :P
22:29 Toastdude Hydroflouric?
22:29 masterofmonks Comes in a little brown plastic bottle labled "rust stain remover"
22:29 Fluorine422 Experimentonomen: What now. You can't kick or ban me just because of my name. there is nothing wrong with it.
22:29 Toastdude ...didn't know that..
22:29 masterofmonks With a *BIG* warning label on it.
22:29 Fluorine422 I have a bottle of lye at home.
22:29 Fluorine422 It's pure lye. But I do'nt understand it.
22:30 Toastdude Yeah, I would imagine MoM
22:30 einball Good evening
22:30 masterofmonks http://www.hardwarestore.com/media/product/502140_front200.jpg
22:30 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Dg3LrhmIY Lo-Fi for the win! :)
22:30 BotSteve Title: Pornophonique - Sad Robot (High Quality) - YouTube
22:31 masterofmonks Also http://www.acehardware.com/graphics/product_images/pACE-1189597reg.jpg
22:31 masterofmonks Now that you know what it looks like you know that you have seen it already.
22:32 Experimentonomen g'day ein
22:33 einball hey Experimentonomen .. look at my link above
22:33 sndwrx hmmmm... Haitian or Ethiopian for dinner tonight?
22:33 einball Ethiopian!
22:33 sndwrx I just can't decide.  Both sound fantastic.
22:33 Experimentonomen ein, did u see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr87HeSsxPU ?
22:33 BotSteve Title: 10Hz subwoofer and amp test - YouTube
22:34 sndwrx einball:  That's kind of what I was leaning toward, but gumbo sounds preeeeeetty good.
22:34 Ponko roadran422 you missed the topic of me sending Chris one of these http://www.hattersshop.co.uk/ols/index.php?act=viewProd&amp;productId=215 and this http://rpmedia.ask.com/ts?u=/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/06/Flag_of_Bedfordshire.svg/100px-Flag_of_Bedfordshire.svg.png
22:34 einball sndwrx: So do gumbo tomorrow ;)
22:34 * sndwrx snickers.
22:34 sndwrx Won't be able to, unfortunately.
22:34 einball Experimentonomen: My amp has a 40hz lowcut ;)
22:34 Fluorine422 Why is that when I pour vinegar to neutralize lye, it doesn't foam or anything? It just stays at the bottom?
22:34 masterofmonks mmm Gumbo.
22:35 Fluorine422 What's important if I missed it?
22:35 sndwrx I suspect my brother will appreciate Ethiopian more.  He's never had either, and he isn't big on trying new things.
22:35 masterofmonks Fluorine422: because you don't neutralize lye with acetic acid.
22:36 Fluorine422 It doesn't make sense.... Lye + Lots of vinegar should made the lye gone/
22:36 Experimentonomen a subwoofer is supposed to do everuything from around 50Hz and down to DC
22:36 einball I'll look into that tomorrow Experimentonomen
22:36 masterofmonks The proper neutralization os soxium hydroxide requires a stochemetric ratio of hydrochloric acid.
22:36 Fluorine422 Why?
22:36 masterofmonks of sodium*
22:36 Fluorine422 Lye too strong of a base?
22:37 masterofmonks Vinegar is >5% acetic acid.
22:37 Fluorine422 Ok... Well, how do I neutrilize it then?
22:37 einball You may like that Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF2ok3ktsl4
22:37 masterofmonks er.
22:37 BotSteve Title: Pornophonique - Space Invaders [HD] - YouTube
22:37 masterofmonks <5%
22:37 Fluorine422 Really.... How?
22:37 einball Well, I go to bed now .. Good night! Be right back in 5h30m
22:37 Fluorine422 I only have vinegar...
22:37 Fluorine422 einball: Cya?
22:37 masterofmonks Lye is 100% sodium hydroxide.
22:37 Fluorine422 It's a strong base....
22:38 Fluorine422 Well, a base with a very low ph number.
22:38 masterofmonks Er, no.
22:38 einball Fluorine422: Yup .. in 5h30m :P
22:38 masterofmonks Sodium hydroxide has a PH of 13
22:38 Fluorine422 Wth? xD
22:39 Fluorine422 I thought ph the higher was more acidic?
22:39 einball the toher way round
22:39 masterofmonks Vinegar has a PH of 4.25-5
22:39 Fluorine422 Ok, then xD
22:39 masterofmonks And 7 is neutral.
22:39 Fluorine422 That's right.... Milk is 8 ish and 7 is pure water.
22:40 masterofmonks So vinegar is barely acidic, compared to lye's strong base.
22:40 Toastdude But isn't acetic acid much stronger than 4-5?
22:40 Fluorine422 Not if it's diluted with water.
22:40 Experimentonomen nite ein
22:40 Toastdude I mean pure acetic acid
22:40 masterofmonks Toastdude: Glacial acetic acid has a ph of 2.5
22:40 Toastdude Oh wow..
22:40 Fluorine422 How do I neutralize it? Copious amounts of water?
22:41 Fluorine422 Ammonia + Bleach ;)
22:41 masterofmonks Fluorine422: Why are you trying to neutralize it?
22:41 Fluorine422 If I spill it?
22:41 masterofmonks Don't?
22:41 Fluorine422 Stilll.....
22:41 masterofmonks As a matter of fact, don't even touch it.
22:42 Fluorine422 It's funny, I used the wrong glassware (not pyrex) and it etched it... Might of gotten a few discrepencies in my experiment...
22:42 Fluorine422 I made hydrogen gas! And a percipitate of other crap from the aluminum
22:42 masterofmonks Lye will certainly eat glass under the right circumstances.
22:42 Fluorine422 Yes.... It etched it!
22:44 masterofmonks And I assume that you were conducting your experiment indoors without a fume hood...
22:45 Fluorine422 No, out doors.
22:45 masterofmonks|F Fluorine will forever be with you!
22:46 Seroster ....Fluorine 422?
22:46 Seroster Derp
22:46 masterofmonks|F Yes. Roadran422 or Fluorine422
22:47 masterofmonks And were you wearing an apron, long gloves, a respirator with proper filters, and a face shield?
22:47 masterofmonks|F No! Of course not!
22:47 masterofmonks|F I had gloves, my glasses, and outside air, a bottle of vinegar, and a bottle to contain the liquid, and a funnel.
22:48 Seroster You got 30 seconds before I boot you out of here for impersonating mom.
22:48 fluorine422 Ok.
22:48 fluorine422 I poured what I thought was "neutralized" sodium hydroxide and water and vinegar solution down the drain.
22:48 Seroster You got 20 seconds to comply.
22:48 Seroster ...
22:48 Seroster *BLAM*
22:48 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9l9wxGFl4k&amp;feature=related
22:48 BotSteve Title: Robocop Mr Kinney VS Ed 209. - YouTube
22:49 Ponko is that sence when he gets brutalised
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22:49 fluorine422 Seroster I did :P
22:50 Seroster If anything is VS Ed209 209 wins.
22:50 Seroster fluorine422, You didnt get the reference.
22:50 Seroster Kinney also complied.
22:50 fluorine422 Nope...
22:50 Ponko Seroster: you ever watched robocop
22:50 Seroster Are you fucking stupid or what? OFC I have.
22:51 fluorine422 ...
22:51 fluorine422 I was most definetly safe from the chemicals!
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22:54 tlockley evening everyone
22:55 fluorine422 Hi!
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23:00 sndwrx OFC
23:00 sndwrx OMG
23:02 fluorine422 What?
23:02 sndwrx Just being a jackass.
23:02 * Experimentonomen pulls roadran's plug
23:02 Seroster Seeing as this is a 44magnum, the most powerful handgun in the world, and would blow your head clean off, you got to ask yourself one question: "Do I feel lucky?" - Well do ya, punk?
23:03 Seroster Ey... I got to know...
23:03 Seroster .... *Click*
23:03 Seroster And with those words of wisdom I'll leave you folks
23:03 Seroster cya
23:07 fluorine422 Experimentonomen:  What do you mean/
23:07 fluorine422 *mean?
23:07 fluorine422 If you wanted to pull my computer plug... It wouldn't matter I'm on a laptop.
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23:14 fluorine422 Hi MoxieMike
23:14 fluorine422 What's the signifigance of the name/
23:16 astro73|alice .radar Grand Rapids, MI
23:16 BotSteve astro73|alice: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=GRR&amp;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
23:18 MoxieMike my name is Mike and I like a softdrink called moxie
23:18 fluorine422 Oh.... Never heard of moxie before!
23:18 MoxieMike not to be confused with the moxie energy drink
23:18 MoxieMike it's not widely available
23:19 fluorine422 Oh... Well, I love Dr. Pepper!
23:19 MoxieMike less than 10 states i believe
23:19 fluorine422 And Cranberry and Orange juice, sometimes both of them combined. 2parts orange 1 part cran.
23:19 MoxieMike moxie starts out tasting a bit like root beer/sasparilla but finishes with a sweet bitter
23:20 fluorine422 I don't like root beer, it is crap. And is Moxie a alcholic beverage and is it avaliable in FL...
23:20 astro73|alice fluorine422: moxie is a terrible drink and MoxieMike is a bad person for liking it.
23:20 MoxieMike it has gentian root as an ingredient which is a substitute for bitters and other bittering agents in cooking
23:20 MoxieMike non-alcoholic
23:20 fluorine422 Oh... I don't want to try it xD
23:21 MoxieMike moxie is either liked or not, nobody "kinda" likes it
23:21 fluorine422 Lol
23:22 fluorine422 Who thinks Dr. Pepper is better than coke.
23:22 MoxieMike i do
23:22 MoxieMike but i'm a pepsi person
23:22 astro73|alice i don't think either are particularly good
23:22 astro73|alice but i like root beer, so maybe i'm just weird
23:22 fluorine422 Lol, here is my scale.
23:23 MoxieMike in december 2010 distribution rights were granted in florida
23:23 * Experimentonomen zaps roadran's computer with a large tesla coil
23:23 fluorine422 Dr. Pepper, Cherry Coke, Coke, Cherry Pepsi, Pepsi, Fanta, and Sprite
23:23 fluorine422 Experimentonomen: Why?
23:24 fluorine422 Sprite isn't bad but I don't really drink it.
23:24 fluorine422 Those are just carbonated drinks.
23:24 Experimentonomen your annoying :P
23:24 astro73|alice the only coke i will drink is diet coke. I'd much prefer root beer, mountain dew, sprite, or sometimes orange
23:24 MoxieMike it will not be commonly found
23:24 MoxieMike you're*
23:24 MoxieMike orange and root beer combined is great
23:25 MoxieMike 1:1
23:25 astro73|alice i may try that some time, but i don't trust you, you moxie liker.
23:25 MoxieMike i didn't create the mix, i got it from a friend
23:25 fluorine422 Experimentonomen:  :P
23:25 MoxieMike :-Þ
23:26 astro73|alice yeah, but you like moxie. that must mean your tongue is messed up. :P
23:26 fluorine422 The only mix I really like is orange juice and cranberry juice.
23:26 MoxieMike alt+0222
23:26 MoxieMike that's because you're from Florida
23:26 fluorine422 :P ^
23:27 Ponko lol
23:27 roadran422 I'm back to roadran422 lol
23:27 roadran422 2 orange: 1 cran
23:28 MoxieMike is there a significance to 422?
23:28 roadran422 No...
23:28 MoxieMike k
23:28 roadran422 It came from 322 which I still don't know why xD
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23:42 Toastdude Hi MoxieMike
23:51 MoxieMike what's up toast?
23:51 Toastdude Not much, you?
23:51 MoxieMike same
23:51 MoxieMike had a good snow storm today
23:53 Toastdude Same, except it's still snowing here
23:53 tonsofpcs hi
23:54 tonsofpcs SBE membership directory showed up today :)
23:55 tonsofpcs apparently chapter 102's chair is @ GVSU

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