Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-01-21

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00:03 MoxieMike what was the issue?
00:04 einball joined #thegeekgroup
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00:06 ^Prophet^ hi all
00:07 ^Prophet^ how is everyone
00:08 tgg|yNos meh
00:09 ^Prophet^ meh?
00:19 Sgt_Lemming meh++
00:19 Sgt_Lemming gotta go work on some servers for a church I help out a bit here
00:23 ^Prophet^ have funz
00:29 Sgt_Lemming not going yet
00:29 Sgt_Lemming in about 45
00:29 ^Prophet^ :P
00:32 Seroster Sgt_Lemming, when their servers break you can tell them "Pft, just pray. I bet God will fix them for you"
00:33 Sgt_Lemming heh
00:34 Seroster And please do remove their lightning rods too.
00:34 Sgt_Lemming heh
00:36 Seroster Rip out the GFI and the fire alarm too when you are at it
00:36 Sgt_Lemming heh
00:36 Sgt_Lemming anyways, time to go start getting ready
00:37 tgg|yNos BotSteve: will wannabe die as a zombie tonight?
00:37 BotSteve No way
00:37 tgg|yNos o.O
00:37 dbshortwave i need to go get gas for the blower
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00:40 wannabe1987 did you see that?  BotSteve said i won't die.  i'm the WORST zombie ever
00:40 wannabe1987 sorry ynos for stealing your irc
00:40 wannabe1987 i forgot my weapon, and i forgot a flashlight
00:40 Seroster Please fill the use box with Holy Nails too. It'll be fine with the noodly appendages watching over it =)
00:41 wannabe1987 at least i know the building by heart :P
00:43 tgg|wannabe awww youtube deleted my video
00:44 ^Prophet^ wat was it?
00:44 tgg|wannabe glee
00:44 tgg|wannabe :P
00:44 ^Prophet^ ,lol
00:45 * tgg|wannabe ran wires and helped egrsteve earlier today, here at the lab.
00:46 * Cheezmo thumbs up
00:47 tgg|wannabe it was outside.  it was cold.  he was up on the lift thinger.
00:47 ^Prophet^ lol
00:47 * InteliWasp wishes he could visit TGG and help out
00:48 tgg|wannabe come on over!
00:48 tgg|wannabe i'll be back most of the day tuesday....
00:48 tgg|wannabe i owe BA/Dave $5 :P
00:48 Seroster L O L
00:48 Seroster http://thedoghousediaries.com/comics/uncategorized/2012-01-20-183ee44.png
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00:50 roadran422 Hey all! Back from the helll of a long day
00:50 tgg|wannabe hi!
00:50 roadran422 Hey wannabe
00:50 roadran422 I'm exhausted, wasn't home for 8 hours
00:50 tgg|wannabe awww poor you
00:51 tgg|wannabe i work for 8 hours at a time, most days
00:51 tgg|wannabe they're....singing.  zomb guys confuse em
00:51 tgg|wannabe me*
00:51 ^Prophet^ lol
00:51 roadran422 xD
00:52 dactadork joined #thegeekgroup
00:52 roadran422 I would wannabe if I could get over there
00:52 roadran422 So, anything new at tgg? Furnce running?
00:52 tgg|wannabe its warmer than outside :P
00:52 roadran422 Also, any viewer mail from florida? Concerning me xD
00:52 tgg|wannabe but we'll be running around in a bit, so we don't want it on :P
00:52 roadran422 Oh ok hahahaha
00:52 roadran422 .tfw tgg
00:52 dactadork http://tinyurl.com/dactadork
00:52 BotSteve Title: Dacta Dork
00:52 tgg|wannabe i looked through the stuff earlier, and didn'ts ee anything from a hee- deep :P
00:52 dactadork my website
00:52 BotSteve 16 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND SNOWING IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Keep track of your local old people.'
00:53 roadran422 It didn't have my name on it, it was just a generic envelope....
00:53 dactadork its snowing like hell in chicago too- where i am
00:53 roadran422 The one you get letters and bills in
00:53 InteliWasp .tfw 44313
00:53 BotSteve 19 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND SNOWING IN Akron, OH!  'Should have gone south'
00:53 InteliWasp and about to get 3-5 inches...
00:54 ^Prophet^ umm i didnt have school today cuz of the snow :3
00:54 tgg|wannabe same....
00:54 tgg|wannabe where you at prophet?
00:54 dactadork hey im new how do i send messages to one specific person
00:54 ^Prophet^ iowa
00:54 ^Prophet^ and on my couch
00:54 roadran422 dactadork: Select user right click send message
00:54 roadran422 I don't have school because it's record day..
00:54 tgg|wannabe where in iowa?
00:54 roadran422 Nunica? xD
00:54 ^Prophet^ Cedar falls
00:54 roadran422 *fails
00:55 dactadork @ turks?\
00:55 ^Prophet^ *shoots ran*
00:55 roadran422 :)
00:55 * roadran422 ducks
00:55 dactadork any new CBs?
00:55 roadran422 CB?
00:55 dactadork captain's blog
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00:55 roadran422 Oh, yah one for the 19th
00:56 roadran422 Not for the 20th though
00:56 dactadork oh cool i haven't seen it
00:56 roadran422 Haha
00:56 dactadork Ubuntu 11.1 what u guys got
00:56 roadran422 Windows!
00:56 tgg|wannabe 20th isn't done yet....
00:57 dactadork sigh
00:57 tgg|wannabe altho, omni and boden aren't here afaik
00:57 roadran422 hahahaha
00:57 dactadork NOOOOOOOO
00:57 roadran422 afaik?
00:57 dehve joined #thegeekgroup
00:57 roadran422 ....
00:57 tgg|yNos gah
00:57 tgg|yNos looks like i left this up
00:57 dactadork omni... all alone... no biscuits or robot cats...
00:57 tgg|wannabe As Far As I Know
00:57 tgg|wannabe yes ynos
00:57 tgg|wannabe i hijacked it for a scond :P
00:57 tgg|yNos bah
00:57 roadran422 Oh ok
00:58 roadran422 Hijacked what?
00:58 tgg|wannabe nice hat
00:58 ^Prophet^ *goes back to playing need for speed*
00:58 roadran422 Particle Man! Triangle Man! Person man!
00:58 tgg|wannabe his acct to ask botsteve a question
00:58 roadran422 MEH!
00:58 dactadork ynos what do you guys need for the NOC i got assloads of equipment- sorry, no rack mount, but i got a few access points u can have
00:59 tgg|yNos We have lots of cisco APs
00:59 tgg|yNos we just need to install them
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00:59 dactadork are they 802.11n?
00:59 tgg|yNos more than anything else, we need time.
00:59 roadran422 I was at a suerplus store for cooking equipment, and I saw an assload of switches, generic ones. But my dad didn't let me get a few to send away :(
00:59 tgg|yNos no, they are abg
00:59 dactadork i have a linksys wireless n system
00:59 tgg|yNos we dont have the core to handle N to its fullest
00:59 tgg|yNos linksys makes me rage
00:59 roadran422 Ynos use B then
00:59 tgg|yNos flakey
00:59 dactadork oh that's too bad
00:59 tgg|yNos hard to troubleshoot
00:59 roadran422 Linksys and Cisco?
01:00 roadran422 What do you use? Netgear?
01:00 dactadork i guess i will have to send a gigabit router too
01:00 dactadork Linksys FTW
01:00 roadran422 lol
01:00 dactadork though cisco is cool
01:00 dactadork i have some netgear stuff
01:00 roadran422 Isn't linksys part of cisco?
01:00 InteliWasp linksys pre cisco FTW
01:00 dactadork i dunno
01:00 roadran422 ...
01:00 dactadork i just look at the label
01:00 roadran422 xD
01:01 dactadork http
01:01 tgg|yNos we have all the gigabit going to a single gigabit switch with a 4gig backplane.
01:01 dactadork ah
01:01 tgg|yNos wannabe, do you have a camera on your phone?
01:01 dactadork so you're good in some aspects?
01:01 tgg|wannabe no, but i have a camera here....if you have a card reader
01:01 dactadork need PCI gigabit adapters?
01:02 tgg|yNos nope
01:02 tgg|yNos i dont have a cardreader.
01:02 dactadork you want internet stuff i got it
01:02 dactadork im shippin a box tmw
01:02 roadran422 What are the easter eggs in the carD?
01:03 tgg|wannabe tgg|yNos why do you want a camera?
01:04 dactadork maybe for security...
01:04 dactadork just a guess
01:04 tgg|wannabe dactadork: no, theres 2 tables full of security cams....
01:05 * tgg|wannabe sits at the back of the zomb circle, on irc
01:05 dactadork oh
01:05 dactadork i knew that actually
01:05 dactadork from nelly's
01:05 tgg|wannabe masterofmonks
01:05 dactadork need baluns
01:05 dactadork right.
01:05 tgg|wannabe masterofmonks: can we do rpg tomorrow night if its ok w// toast?
01:05 roadran422 SO what goes on at tgg?
01:05 tgg|wannabe everything
01:05 dactadork cory cleaning up yet?
01:05 masterofmonks tgg|wannabe: We will see.
01:05 tgg|wannabe ok
01:06 tgg|wannabe i haven't seen cory today
01:06 dactadork oh
01:06 dactadork how's gibroney
01:06 dactadork abe lincoln
01:06 dactadork lolz
01:06 dbshortwave lol
01:06 tgg|wannabe saw him
01:06 tgg|wannabe he's person man
01:06 roadran422 Hahahaha
01:06 roadran422 Cory is
01:06 dactadork messy
01:06 roadran422 No wait, gibroni is xD
01:06 dactadork not messy
01:06 tgg|yNos tgg|wannabe: was thinking a picture of the noc so they can see what we have.
01:07 dbshortwave HAHAHAHA @ partical man
01:07 roadran422 lol
01:07 tgg|wannabe i can take the photo, post it somewhere when i get home tonight
01:07 roadran422 Tinypic
01:07 dactadork cool
01:07 dactadork u hear that SOPA and PIPA might shut down youtube
01:07 roadran422 I told you!
01:07 roadran422 I TOLD YOU ALL!
01:07 tgg|wannabe "90% of things in this building will kill you.  its not a fun death, its you getting struck with lots of electricity and your marrow superboils and you die from shock"
01:07 dactadork i think it's bull
01:07 roadran422 I hope they don't.
01:07 tgg|wannabe dactadork: sopa/pipa are dead
01:08 dactadork they better not,
01:08 roadran422 tgg|wannabe: Why'd  you say that?
01:08 tgg|wannabe say what?
01:08 roadran422 "90% of things in this building will kill you.  its not a fun death, its you getting struck with lots of electricity and your marrow superboils and you die from shock"
01:08 dbshortwave its not dead yet
01:08 tgg|wannabe because BA/DAVE just said it
01:08 tgg|wannabe duh
01:08 tgg|yNos sopa/pipa are not dead
01:08 roadran422 Oh xD
01:08 tgg|yNos they are shelved.
01:08 dactadork oh
01:08 roadran422 Yep ^
01:08 dactadork that's ok
01:08 dactadork maybe
01:08 dactadork i guess
01:08 roadran422 I don't want it to pass
01:08 dactadork sorta
01:08 dbshortwave what tgg|yNos said
01:08 eadthem mmm i would think if you got hit by thumper   say  on 1 arm   that arm would probably flash boil and explode
01:09 dehve So the plans for the lab say there's an emergency exit at the opposite end of the high voltage lab from the office entrance. i've never seen it in the captain's blogs though. can anyone confirm it's non-existant?
01:09 roadran422 Ouch
01:09 dactadork eadthem: lol wut?
01:09 tgg|yNos there is one in back..
01:09 dehve that leads out into the handicap lot?
01:09 dactadork http://tinyurl.com/dactadork  my website is badass
01:09 BotSteve Title: Dacta Dork
01:09 dactadork youtube.com/dactadork
01:09 dactadork indeed
01:10 roadran422 .... Is promoting allowed?
01:10 roadran422 xD
01:10 dactadork check out my vids
01:10 roadran422 YNOS!
01:10 dactadork i do a lot like TGG except i am a basement and one guy
01:10 dehve i didn't see any doors on that wall in that blog where they were driving around
01:10 dehve on the outside
01:10 tgg|yNos no, it it goes out to the back alley
01:10 dactadork i saw that too
01:10 eadthem your a basement?
01:10 roadran422 tgg|yNos: CHECK THIS OUT! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/26/ventblockers_2/page11.html
01:10 BotSteve Title: Filthy PCs: The X-rated circus of horrors • The Register
01:10 eadthem :P
01:10 dehve oh the one that goes down the stairs, right?
01:11 roadran422 You might cringe a bit tgg|yNos
01:11 Seroster yo Ponko
01:11 dehve yeah i mean the plans show on that exits into the handicap lot
01:11 dactadork hey Ynos
01:11 Ponko what
01:11 dactadork u still here
01:11 roadran422 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/11/26/ventblockers_2/page11.html This is gross.
01:11 BotSteve Title: Filthy PCs: The X-rated circus of horrors • The Register
01:11 dactadork i looked at my inventory
01:11 tgg|yNos yup, irc is not my focus
01:11 Sgt_Lemming later all, back on when I get to the church probably
01:11 Seroster Seen this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvsC2k3HAKo&amp;feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G297bf2fFUAAAAAAAAAA < fresh as a dodo!
01:11 BotSteve Title: SOPA IS DEAD, LONG LIVE SOPA! - YouTube
01:11 dehve i've seen my fair share of crusty nicotine dust-caked PCs... you can't even blow that crap off with an air compressor
01:11 dactadork i got nsome cool stuff
01:12 Seroster dehve, You just aint got nuff psi.
01:12 roadran422 Lol
01:12 dehve probably. :P it was a craptastic little Canadian Tire compressor
01:12 roadran422 Throw it in the washing machine, and then let it COMPLETELY dry
01:12 dactadork lots of SDRAM, 3x gigabit
01:12 dactadork pci adapters
01:12 dactadork and 1x 10/100 pci adapter
01:13 dactadork u want them?
01:13 Seroster dehve, A few months ago I got a FREE jun-air scroll compressor (16bar(!))
01:13 dactadork 2 of the gigabit cards are still in their boxes
01:13 dehve the filthiest PC of them all is likely the concrete-filled one. ain't never cleaning that one out
01:13 dactadork lol
01:13 roadran422 Hahahaha
01:13 roadran422 I really want them to bring it to geeksquad!
01:13 dactadork lol as in little old lady
01:13 Monkeh|Lap tgg|yNos: You've got 5GHz wireless over there?
01:13 roadran422 Be funny as hell
01:13 Ponko wait SOPA dead?
01:14 tgg|yNos yes, we have A
01:14 dactadork ponko: no
01:14 Monkeh|Lap tgg|yNos: You lucky bastards.
01:14 dehve bring a working concrete-filled PC to geeksquad and complain that it keeps overheating
01:14 Seroster dehve, My co,pressor will take care of it.
01:14 Monkeh|Lap tgg|yNos: The cheapest A hardware over here is three times the price of expensive G and N..
01:14 Seroster Yeah, that was the plan
01:14 dactadork they will likely just give it back and walk away
01:14 dactadork like they always do
01:14 Ponko Seroster: do they even affect us?
01:15 tgg|yNos Monkeh|Lap: cisco 1231 - i picked them out of the trash at work.
01:15 roadran422 SOPA! SOPA CALLIENTE ESTA EN MIS PANTALONES! MIERTA!
01:15 dehve i didn't know they even made A-band wifi hardware anymore
01:15 Monkeh|Lap tgg|yNos: .. pick me some of that stuff out of the trash.
01:15 tgg|yNos lol
01:15 dactadork someone is speaking mexicanish
01:15 Monkeh|Lap dehve: Sure, N is 5GHz capable too.
01:15 dactadork which should be a thing
01:15 roadran422 Xd
01:15 roadran422 *xD
01:15 dehve yeah i knew that part. but i didn't know it did A
01:15 tgg|yNos it doesnt happen often.. i try to snag the good stuff..
01:15 Seroster Ponko, EVRYTHING the stupid fucking yanks do affects us.
01:15 * dbshortwave starts singing partical man
01:15 Monkeh|Lap dehve: It's just that it's expensive (for no good reason, it's not actually that more expensive in material..)
01:16 Ponko yep i hate this bullshit
01:16 dehve look what happened to megaupload
01:16 Monkeh|Lap dehve: It's all software, the hardware doesn't care.
01:16 dactadork u think it sucks
01:16 dactadork if they pass
01:16 dehve the US got the NZ police to arrest the owners
01:16 dactadork i lose my channel on youtube
01:16 Seroster *when
01:16 dehve ahh ok. makes sense
01:16 dehve but why use A when you can use N?
01:16 dactadork anything happening on the live stream?
01:17 eadthem i wonder how many normal computer users dont realise they have to clean out the case once a year
01:17 dactadork devhe: it's cheap
01:17 Monkeh|Lap dehve: Anything capable of n is capable of g. Anything capable of g is capable of b. Anything capable of b which has 5GHz hardware will do a.
01:17 dehve eadthem: most of them. :/
01:17 eadthem ive only seen 1 that bad  it was a roomates in collage and his parents smoked
01:17 Monkeh|Lap dehve: a is somewhat more robust, if slower.
01:17 * Ponko turns to look at SOPA & PIPA and says "hi guys, please for the LOVE OF GOD who you LOVE SOOO MUCH STOP just FUCKING STOP, thank you"
01:17 Seroster SOPA is a bs law that can make pretty much any site illegal, and it is about as retarded as the old law of "crimes against the King" - looking at him in a strange way could be called a crime if he so wished.
01:17 dactadork Seroster: amen to that
01:17 dehve as a person who's worked in a service department, it's extremely rare to get a computer that's clean, unless it's fairly new
01:17 roadran422 dITTO
01:18 dactadork unless its never been booted up
01:18 Monkeh|Lap dehve: (a is actually basically b on 5GHz, rather than g)
01:18 dactadork or filled with concrete
01:18 tgg|wannabe hi monkeh
01:18 Monkeh|Lap dehve: Confused yet?
01:18 Monkeh|Lap tgg|wannabe: Hi!
01:18 dehve oh, cool. didn't know that lol
01:18 eadthem he had me looked at it  we opend the side and it was coated with cigeret tar   he asked if that was normal i told him  not for a 1 year old computer   it looks like it was in a smokers house.
01:18 dehve B isn't very robust...
01:18 dactadork g is iffy even
01:18 dehve at least not with linksys hardware
01:18 eadthem he got this horrified look and sayed it was his parents
01:18 Monkeh|Lap dehve: Actually, it is. It's just stuck on a stupidly crowded band.
01:18 dactadork lol
01:18 dactadork i gotta go
01:18 dactadork bye
01:19 Seroster And really, the only thing we can do is keep on going as we used to do. Remember the prohibation era? - Keep seeding and they'll llegalize it again some day, that's cheaper than throwing every american between 12 and 55 in the slammer.
01:19 dehve my parents' old B router always randomly dropped connections even at full strength
01:19 Ponko you see the thing about SOPA and PIPA <this sentence has been deleted under the law of SOPA>
01:19 Monkeh|Lap dehve: 2.4GHz is used by EVERYTHING, including non-transmission devices which leak radiation all over the place.
01:19 dactadork ynos you will be getting network stuff
01:19 dehve yeah
01:19 dehve like microwaves and cordless phones
01:19 Monkeh|Lap dehve: Flakey consumer hardware, the protocol itself is good.
01:19 Seroster dehve, There is but one thing that is worse than keyboards and computers.
01:19 Seroster Microwaves are often fine.
01:19 dehve lol what's that?
01:19 Seroster FUCKING DISHWASHERS
01:19 Monkeh|Lap dehve: Your microwave probably leaks 200-300mW of 2.4GHz radiation spread all over the band.
01:20 dehve microwaves are fine, as long as their shielding is sound
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01:20 dehve really? dishwashers?
01:20 Monkeh|Lap They'll wipe out anything within a few metres and cause problems for tens.
01:20 dehve i would have thought the EMF would be more in the transmission frequency range
01:20 Ponko Seroster: that's illegal to say now
01:20 Ponko under the laws of SOPA
01:20 Monkeh|Lap Most of it is directed out the front, mind, but still..
01:20 RoseWolf .minecraft
01:20 * Ponko rolls eyes and shakes his head
01:20 BotSteve RoseWolf: Legacy TGG minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: UP
01:20 BotSteve RoseWolf: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
01:20 roadran422 COLD WAR!
01:20 Ponko already happened
01:21 roadran422 lol
01:21 dbshortwave its gunna happen again
01:21 dbshortwave wait
01:21 dbshortwave wrong
01:21 roadran422 Already did.
01:21 dbshortwave still appening
01:21 Seroster I worked as a repair tech. "This washer quit emptying water two weeks ago. It was full of dirty water, grease and old food. It has been incubating now for half a month in 35*c heat. Figure out what's wrong and fix it."
01:21 roadran422 Ewh.
01:22 Seroster Big moldy patches floating around, fifteen different tastes of fungi
01:22 dbshortwave my responce .... "buy a new one
01:22 roadran422 xD Mushrooms yet?
01:22 roadran422 Run 30 gallons of bleach through it.
01:22 roadran422 Or even better but the washer inside a washer.
01:22 roadran422 .c 35c to f
01:22 BotSteve 95 degrees Fahrenheit
01:22 Seroster That wasnt an option dbshortwave, Miele industrial. $5k new.
01:22 Ponko lol Seroster his statement at the end
01:22 roadran422 THat's gross.
01:22 Seroster 35c is armpit warm.
01:22 dbshortwave bleh
01:22 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: At least over here you're well within your rights to say 'no, have it disposed of'
01:23 Ponko be there or be square or some other shape Seroster
01:23 roadran422 Seroster: Hopw'd you clean it?
01:23 Seroster roadran422, carefully.
01:23 roadran422 xD, Bleach?
01:23 roadran422 Degreaser? Pumps?
01:23 Seroster I said "FUCK IT!" and just scooped the solids out, pumped the water, removed the crap that was stuck in the impeller and ran it for a few cycles with the nastiest solvents I could find.
01:23 dbshortwave pressure washer and a appliance dolly
01:24 roadran422 Damn
01:24 roadran422 A respirator and ventillation?
01:24 Seroster Starting out with a double dose of lime remover, then a regular programme, then with bleach, then with citric and then regular.
01:24 Seroster No. No respirator.
01:25 roadran422 Oh..
01:25 dehve mmm, tasty mold
01:25 roadran422 Just CLR that shit
01:25 roadran422 About 1-2 bottles, and you would of been fine
01:25 Seroster Sometimes you come to a place where you can't take care of the problem without getting your hands dirty. So just roll up your sleeves and go for it
01:25 roadran422 Lol
01:25 Seroster roadran422, the four last ones were smell only.
01:25 roadran422 SO, it's clean now?
01:26 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Roll up your sleeves and make with the elbow length gauntlets.
01:26 Seroster Yep.
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01:26 roadran422 Nice
01:26 Seroster Well I think it is
01:26 Seroster It was used in a mental institution.
01:26 roadran422 x Happens again x
01:26 roadran422 Seroster: o_O Any one do anything to you?
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01:26 Seroster They use the industrial Miele ones since they reach 90*c - killing any and all germs
01:26 Seroster Nope. I was just the repairman.
01:27 roadran422 It's clean now...
01:27 LemPhone there are bacterium that will survive that seroster
01:27 roadran422 o_o
01:27 Seroster But if they do they deserved to live, dont ya think?
01:27 LemPhone but they are, so far, mostly harmless
01:27 Seroster 90c kills most
01:28 roadran422 This is just me, CLR, Bleach, HCL, Water, Alchocl, H2O2, and Boiling Water.
01:28 Monkeh|Lap Kills everything you need to worry about
01:28 Seroster And the detergent in them doesnt make them any happier
01:28 LemPhone yeah, it kills all the dangerous ones
01:28 Seroster aye monkeh
01:28 Seroster The fun thing is that that washer wasnt the worst.
01:28 roadran422 ...
01:28 Seroster The worst was fucking coffee/espresso machines.
01:28 Monkeh|Lap Ah, good, my laptop's developed a new creak
01:28 LemPhone heh
01:28 roadran422 How?
01:29 Seroster Brand; MIELE, Price tag; $10.000
01:29 Seroster Insurance? Nowhere to be found
01:29 roadran422 Hahahahahahaha
01:29 Seroster "It doesnt make coffee"
01:29 LemPhone monkeh, at least yours has a working battery
01:29 roadran422 ...
01:29 Monkeh|Lap LemPhone: Varying degrees of working.
01:29 Seroster Right... So you check the error report and it says the bean chute is clogged.
01:29 roadran422 With?
01:29 Seroster You open up the machine wich is plastic snap-on fucking craptacular garbage, to get to the chute.
01:30 Seroster When you get there you realise the chute isnt clogged at all.
01:30 Seroster ****
01:30 roadran422 Wow.... Unsanitary.
01:30 LemPhone and a hard drive that isn't held in by the sata plug alone
01:30 Seroster So... You plug it in again and see what it says
01:30 roadran422 The power, and screws.
01:30 Seroster "CLOSE ALL BODY PANELS"
01:30 roadran422 Hahaha
01:30 Seroster ... So you do that, and it takes ten minutes
01:30 Monkeh|Lap LemPhone: .. Yes, I do bother to have an intact laptop
01:30 roadran422 really?
01:30 Seroster With tiny plastic pieces that breaks if you look at them too hard.
01:30 dbshortwave restart
01:30 roadran422 xD
01:30 dbshortwave baen filter cloged
01:30 LemPhone monkeh, the hard drive cover on mine snapped
01:31 Seroster You cuss over one of those fucking machines for two hours a day for a week
01:31 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: No, no, no. Duct tape over the microswitches. :P
01:31 LemPhone just a rather weak and flimsy design
01:31 Seroster monkeh wasnt microswitches
01:31 Seroster Not mechanical ones anyway
01:31 Seroster I think it was done with hidden magnets
01:31 LemPhone he means to defeat the body panel thing
01:32 LemPhone so find where the sensor is and stick a magnet there
01:32 Monkeh|Lap Seroster: Microswitches, reed switches, opto switches.. nothing I can't foil in 10 seconds. :)
01:33 LemPhone yeah
01:34 LemPhone unless they are using RFID or something, it's easy to bypass those sensors
01:34 Seroster Thing is I was an intern
01:34 Seroster And I got the boot because I didnt do evrything their way. So I would have been gone even sooner if I started taping magnets to things that cost more than a decent second hand car.
01:38 LemPhone heh
01:48 Seroster Well
01:48 Seroster goodnight folks
01:50 roadran422 Night Seroster
01:54 dehve apparently the ESA has only now realized that SOPA is bad. seems to me they were fine with it until the internet revolted on them haha
01:55 roadran422 xD
01:55 roadran422 Looks like they had a "Change of Heart"
01:56 dehve http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20120120/14484017493/esa-tucks-its-tail-between-its-legs-pulls-sopa-support.shtml
01:56 BotSteve Title: ESA Tucks Its Tail Between Its Legs And Pulls SOPA Support | Techdirt
01:58 roadran422 Haha
01:59 roadran422 As I said before.
01:59 ^Prophet^ woot!
02:00 roadran422 SOPA! TENGO SOPA EN MIS PANTALONES! MIERDA! AGUA! AHORA!
02:00 roadran422 *SOPA CALLIENTE
02:00 ^Prophet^ this is random... but who where thinks i should send in one of my old console or something for an Equip. Autopsy?
02:01 roadran422 Send me a n64 :)
02:01 roadran422 xD
02:01 ^Prophet^ hahaha
02:01 ^Prophet^ no
02:01 ^Prophet^ im keeping that
02:01 ^Prophet^ LO
02:01 roadran422 :(
02:01 ^Prophet^ :P
02:01 dehve The only part of that I picked out was something about SOPA and your pants?
02:01 roadran422 SOUP! I HAVE HOT SOUP EN MY PANTS! SHIT! WATER! NOW!
02:01 roadran422 *IN
02:02 roadran422 ^Prophet^: WAIT! Do you have gba charger
02:02 dbshortwave LOL
02:02 ^Prophet^ i have a like 3 of them...
02:02 roadran422 Gba advanced charger... I need one badly
02:02 ^Prophet^ one for my DS
02:02 roadran422 Can you send me one man?
02:02 ^Prophet^ hmm
02:02 roadran422 :P
02:02 ^Prophet^ if i can find my other 2 xD
02:02 roadran422 xD
02:02 roadran422 A battery for the gba be nice also.... lol
02:03 ^Prophet^ wait like are we talking normal GBA or like GBA-SP
02:03 ^Prophet^ also
02:03 ^Prophet^ http://www.damnlol.com/my-new-custom-plate-worth-every-penny-13617.html
02:03 roadran422 SP
02:03 BotSteve Title: My New Custom Plate, Worth Every Penny - Damn! LOL
02:03 RageRiot hi ^Prophet^
02:03 dehve epic plate
02:03 roadran422 Wow
02:03 ^Prophet^ oh hai
02:03 ^Prophet^ lol
02:03 ^Prophet^ xD
02:04 RageRiot did you find the iphone app ?
02:04 roadran422 ... ^Prophet^
02:04 ^Prophet^ oh no
02:04 ^Prophet^ i didnt
02:04 ^Prophet^ D:
02:04 dehve i've got a GBA emulator on my phone. and a PSX emulator. it's so amazing how far tech has come in the last decade
02:04 RageRiot heh
02:04 ^Prophet^ road.. ill see what i can do
02:04 roadran422 Thx man!
02:04 ^Prophet^ np
02:05 ^Prophet^ oh hey and also how should i go about cleaning the read head for my Wii
02:05 Druidic_Rifleman roadran send me $ and you can have mine
02:05 RageRiot cd lens cleaning kit ..
02:05 roadran422 Yah ^
02:05 roadran422 They have a brush literaly mounted on to the disk....
02:05 ^Prophet^ ...
02:05 roadran422 Druidic_Rifleman: No money what so ever...
02:05 roadran422 ^Prophet^: Wait
02:06 ^Prophet^ *waits*
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02:06 dehve i've always thought adding that much mass (a brush) to a compact disk seemed like a really bad idea
02:07 roadran422 http://www.adrianandgenese.com/blogger/2009/01/27/how-to-make-a-cd-lens-cleaner-for-your-dvdcd-player/
02:07 BotSteve Title: How to make a CD lens cleaner for your DVD/CD Player – Be cheap and DIY:
02:07 roadran422 http://fadeover.org/blog/archives/37
02:07 BotSteve Title: words by patrick » Blog Archive » How-To: Make Your Own CD/DVD Lens Cleaner and Fix Your CD/DVD Drive Yourself
02:07 ^Prophet^ also the you cant access the Wii'd read head without taking the whole thing apart
02:07 Druidic_Rifleman Hmmmm
02:08 dehve wouldn't the DIY version have some serious balance issues?
02:08 ^Prophet^ what type of scale are we talking about...
02:09 ^Prophet^ *dies because of bad pun*
02:10 RageRiot dehve I agree a little
02:10 roadran422 ....
02:10 roadran422 You see ^Prophet^?
02:10 RageRiot but they generally work ok. the cheaper ones are crap tho
02:10 ^Prophet^ no
02:10 ^Prophet^ :P
02:10 ^Prophet^ i cant take the thing apart dude
02:10 roadran422 Wow.
02:10 ^Prophet^ i have to fix it from the outside
02:10 roadran422 Look at the links I sent you...
02:10 dehve yeah
02:10 roadran422 Make it, and then stick the disk in, it will clean the head
02:11 RageRiot roadran422 I I wounlt use that
02:11 dehve but unless you weigh out your materials, you're going to have serious vibration issues at high rpms
02:11 roadran422 ... Or compressed air and hope for the best, BUT HOLD IT UP RIGHT.
02:11 RageRiot thats a really bad idea ,,,
02:11 RageRiot a really bad idea..
02:11 LemPhone why would holding it upright matter with compressed air roadran422?
02:11 dehve upside down canned air - freeze the dust out!
02:11 RageRiot the tape and the felt can come off for a start. the felt will scratch the lens
02:12 LemPhone oh you mean canned air
02:12 roadran422 Yes LemPhonexD
02:12 RageRiot and that isnt balanced
02:12 roadran422 You can screw the device up...
02:12 RageRiot rattle like fuk*
02:12 roadran422 ^Prophet^: Try it and see if it works
02:12 LemPhone "canned air" is normally just butane or propane
02:12 dehve i'd be worried about the disk flying apart inside
02:13 dehve canned air here is A/C coolant
02:13 LemPhone or one of the hydrocarbon propellants
02:13 roadran422 ....
02:13 roadran422 No..
02:13 roadran422 Compressed air only....
02:13 roadran422 No hairspray
02:13 LemPhone dehve, most A/C coolants are in the hydrocarbon family
02:13 dehve yep :)
02:14 ^Prophet^ i might try windex
02:14 RageRiot http://www.amazon.co.uk/Lens-Laser-Cleaner-Cleaning-Fluid/dp/B001NXK7DS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1327112031&amp;sr=8-1
02:14 ^Prophet^ *shrug*
02:14 BotSteve Title: CD/DVD Lens/Laser Cleaner with Cleaning Fluid - High: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics
02:14 RageRiot ouch
02:14 RageRiot nope
02:14 roadran422 NO>
02:14 SparkyProjects Go get a proper cleaning disc, even a pricey one is cheaper than replacing the player or lens assembly
02:14 SparkyProjects I've had one for years, and once had to use it 6 times to clean a heavily crudded lens, and was successful
02:14 dehve now, if we're talking about air-compressor-compressed-air, that could work, if you're lucky.
02:14 LemPhone no, it's a bad idea
02:14 dehve hence the "lucky' haha
02:15 roadran422 Just compressed air, or bring out the air compresser
02:15 LemPhone high velocity dry air stream == massive static risks
02:15 RageRiot I'd say get some isopropyl but you may as well just get a properly lens cleaning kit
02:15 dehve if you're unlucky, the air will catch under something like a ribbon cable and tear it off.
02:15 dehve or that
02:15 ^Prophet^ ill think on it
02:16 roadran422 Ok... Can you still help me ^Prophet^?
02:16 RageRiot you cant used compressed air to clean a lens
02:16 ^Prophet^ the thing is i dont wanna wreak it
02:16 roadran422 What's the loss?
02:16 ^Prophet^ i lose all my dls...
02:16 roadran422 dls?
02:16 ^Prophet^ downloads.
02:16 ^Prophet^ the Wii works fine
02:16 roadran422 Oh... Back the channels up with sd card?
02:16 roadran422 Or warranty
02:16 RageRiot it's not about dust that's setttle on the lens. the dust sticks to the lens and you need alcohol to clean it
02:17 ^Prophet^ i also need a Wii that is comp, with a Gcube controller
02:17 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTZb6iaH-q0&amp;NR=1&amp;feature=endscreen watch this fullscreen
02:17 BotSteve Title: hipnotize - YouTube
02:17 roadran422 Oh
02:17 RageRiot crashed my browser
02:17 ^Prophet^ thats why i want to know if i can clean the readhead without the risk of breaking the whole thing
02:17 roadran422 ....
02:17 roadran422 Hm....
02:17 roadran422 I have one of the dumbest ideas ever.
02:18 roadran422 Get windex, and put a bit on to the disk, just a little but still beads. Stick it in to the wii and hope for the best.
02:18 RageRiot ^Prophet^ do you have any rubbing alcohol/isopropyl ?
02:18 roadran422 Then take it out, dry the disk and hope it works.
02:18 ^Prophet^ yes i do actually
02:18 roadran422 I'm a hack xD
02:18 roadran422 Try it and it might work.
02:18 dehve get off the internet! :P
02:19 roadran422 :P
02:19 RageRiot are you confident at opening up the wii(do you have waranty ?
02:19 roadran422 Just follow my way...
02:19 LemPhone fucking wunderba, my glasses are dying :-(
02:19 ^Prophet^ umm
02:19 dehve just pretend it's one of those old NES cartridges and hyperventilate into the disk slot :P
02:19 RageRiot roadran422, your going to kill it
02:19 LemPhone they are only just on a year old
02:19 LemPhone if that
02:19 Ponko omg those things are epic
02:19 roadran422 RageRiot: Dude it worked for me
02:19 ^Prophet^ dehve: tryed that
02:20 Ponko one hell of a way mess with your depth perception
02:20 RageRiot lol
02:20 dehve yeah i had a crazy swirly thing for a couple seconds
02:20 roadran422 RageRiot: It really did work..
02:20 ^Prophet^ Rageriot: Umm i dont think i warranty anymore
02:20 dehve kind of disappointed at how short the effect was, but it's probably due to my screen brightness
02:20 Ponko dehve i do love the 4th thing
02:20 ^Prophet^ lol
02:21 RageRiot then you either buy a cd lens kit. or get a few cotton buds and isopropyl and open the wii up and gently rub the lens
02:21 roadran422 Or go my hack way...
02:21 ^Prophet^ Roadran: not gonna risk it.
02:21 RageRiot or use his hack way and scratch the feck out of the lens
02:21 roadran422 Ok...
02:21 ^Prophet^ actually
02:21 ^Prophet^ Roads way worked for my gamecube
02:21 roadran422 ....
02:22 roadran422 I'm not liable for anything that might happen.
02:22 RageRiot which ?
02:22 ^Prophet^ the windex
02:22 RageRiot lol he says that after he sujest it
02:22 roadran422 :P ^
02:22 RageRiot windex is a bad idea
02:22 roadran422 Or isop
02:22 ^Prophet^ im not gonna risk it with the Wii though
02:22 RageRiot besides
02:22 roadran422 Hmph..
02:23 roadran422 I HAVE THE BEST IDEA EVER!
02:23 RageRiot it wont touch the lens without a cleaning disc
02:23 ^Prophet^ ducttape?
02:23 roadran422 No compressed air? Use a lawn blower...
02:23 ^Prophet^ *headesks*
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02:23 roadran422 :)
02:23 * RageRiot facepalm
02:23 tgg|wannabe|afk round 3 is done
02:23 roadran422 What? It works!
02:23 dehve pressure washer
02:23 roadran422 Just use some tin foil, and then BAM!
02:23 dehve imo
02:24 RageRiot just sqirt some semen into it I'm sure that'll work... since we are throwing any sugestions atm
02:24 roadran422 :P
02:24 roadran422 I really mean it... Try the lawn blower... It won't damage it..
02:24 LemPhone lol
02:25 ^Prophet^ how about i try putting you in the clothes dryer... im sure it wont hurt...
02:25 roadran422 Am I right? No harm, it's just lets hope it works
02:25 roadran422 I mean really, what damaged could be done if you did it??
02:25 roadran422 ^Prophet^: I can hide in one.
02:25 dehve fill it with concrete
02:25 roadran422 Nevermind then.
02:26 ^Prophet^ well how far down is the readhead inside the Wii
02:26 ^Prophet^ o.O
02:26 roadran422 It doesn't matter, just try the lawn blower ^Prophet^ If it works YES! If not then ehh
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02:27 ^Prophet^ *smack* shaddup
02:27 roadran422 ...
02:28 Ponko those things aren't a good thing to to do for a long period of time
02:28 roadran422 ...
02:28 Ponko maybe it's the milk
02:28 roadran422 I say just use the lawn blower.
02:28 RageRiot where is he going to get one of thoes ?
02:29 roadran422 You cut grass right?
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02:29 roadran422 You have to have one then.
02:29 RageRiot I dont
02:29 RageRiot no grass in sight here ....
02:29 RageRiot we have a concrete yar...
02:29 RageRiot yard*
02:29 roadran422 .... Why? Don't you need to blow the leaves away? Anything like that?
02:29 roadran422 CONCRETE? HOW MUCH WAS THAT Xd
02:29 roadran422 *xD
02:29 LemPhone we don't have one here either roadran
02:29 RageRiot it's an end terrace house
02:30 LemPhone they are not that common here
02:30 roadran422 I live in florida... My dad has one..
02:30 RageRiot they are not common in most of the uk
02:30 roadran422 I used that to blow dust out of my laptop, fans, and computer
02:30 roadran422 Use a snow blower ;)
02:30 ^Prophet^ RageRiot... what would be the best way to the readhead inside the Wii
02:30 LemPhone roadran, using a lawn blower to clean a computer is a bad idea
02:30 RageRiot best way to clean it ?
02:31 roadran422 If you are lucky and very skilled, iso alc and a small finy paint brush
02:31 roadran422 roadran422: Why? Static?
02:31 LemPhone yup
02:31 roadran422 :P
02:31 LemPhone high velocity stream of warm dry air == bad idea
02:31 ^Prophet^ like to get to it without breaking the rest of the system... i dont trust my abilitys :P
02:31 roadran422 I guess
02:31 roadran422 ^Prophet^: xxD
02:32 RageRiot ^Prophet^ what are your options? do you want ti done fast and in the next hour? or can you wait till you buy a cd lens cleaning kit ?
02:32 ^Prophet^ like the next hour :3
02:32 roadran422 No tri-wing RageRiot
02:32 RageRiot do you have steady hands ?
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02:33 ^Prophet^ not really...
02:33 RageRiot anyone else close by that has steady hands ?
02:33 roadran422 Well, considering low clearance, it shouldn't really matter unless his hands shaked 5 feet...
02:33 ^Prophet^ no...
02:33 roadran422 The clearance is about half a cm
02:33 ^Prophet^ roadran: SHUT UP... for like 5 mins
02:33 ^Prophet^ pl0x
02:33 RageRiot you cant have your cake and eat it then mister. order/go out and buy a kit.
02:34 RageRiot rofl
02:34 ^Prophet^ if i have a cake i should be able to eat it...
02:35 ^Prophet^ so how steady to my hands have to be..
02:35 RageRiot the live a little. opend your machine up and get the isopropyl out. uses some cotton buds to wipe the lens and a dry one to dry it off. repeast the process.
02:35 LemPhone yeah, just don't press hard on the lens
02:36 RageRiot the lens flex'es so if you jolt it around more than a 3 mm then you'll damage the lens mechanism
02:36 ^Prophet^ *punches nintendo in the face for not putting gcube ports on the black Wii
02:36 ^Prophet^ right
02:37 RageRiot make sure you have enough light to do the job. and dont breath on the lens
02:37 roadran422 Again, tri wing
02:38 ^Prophet^ *burp*
02:38 ^Prophet^ kk
02:38 roadran422 Forgetting that wii's have tri wing.... So I think
02:39 ^Prophet^ triwing?
02:39 roadran422 Yes
02:39 RageRiot screwdriver I think
02:39 roadran422 You know the Y shapped bit?
02:39 roadran422 Yah... I think you need that
02:39 RageRiot I dont have a wii so I dont know..
02:39 roadran422 Ifixit
02:39 roadran422 Look it up there
02:40 roadran422 Nintendo = Tri wing.
02:40 Cprossu nintendo is nearly all triwing
02:40 ^Prophet^ o.0
02:40 Cprossu and don't listen to any of the noobs, the bic pen trick is a bad idea =P
02:40 RageRiot ^Prophet^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPyCgkR1Foc&amp;hd=1
02:40 ^Prophet^ well shit
02:40 BotSteve Title: How to Disassemble a Nintendo Wii - YouTube
02:40 roadran422 Bic pen trick?
02:40 ^Prophet^ ty
02:40 Cprossu melt the end of a bic pen to 'make a screwdriver'
02:40 roadran422 http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Nintendo-Wii-DVD-Drive-Replacement/5164/2
02:40 BotSteve Title: Nintendo Wii DVD Drive Replacement - Page 2 - iFixit
02:41 roadran422 Oh... Cprossu I've tried it. I failed.
02:41 Cprossu hence why I said what I did
02:41 roadran422 I fix it is more descriptive.
02:41 roadran422 Lol
02:41 Cprossu <Cprossu> and don't listen to any of the noobs, the bic pen trick is a bad idea =P
02:41 roadran422 I didn't think you've tried it..
02:41 Cprossu I didn't but one of my buddies did while I tried to stop him
02:42 Cprossu it worked as well as trying to take it apart with a towel would.
02:42 roadran422 HAHA
02:42 RageRiot roadran422 did you just eat a full packet or bassetts Liquorice Allsort?
02:42 roadran422 What?
02:42 roadran422 I'm 14. I don't drink or eat anything alcholic..
02:43 RageRiot lol
02:43 roadran422 ... What is it still?
02:43 RageRiot I never sugested that
02:43 RageRiot infact it explains it :P
02:43 roadran422 ....
02:43 RageRiot sweets
02:43 RageRiot proper hyper :P
02:43 roadran422 Oh... Liquorice... liquor... And No I don't get hyper.
02:44 RageRiot ye
02:44 roadran422 ^Prophet^: So, how you coming along with that wii?
02:44 roadran422 Here are the list of options,
02:44 ^Prophet^ i dont have a tri wing screwdriver...
02:44 RageRiot then back to option 1
02:44 RageRiot buy a kit cleaner
02:44 ^Prophet^ no...
02:45 roadran422 1. Tear the wii apart and try to fix it.
02:45 roadran422 2. Fix it with compressed air/lawn blower.
02:45 roadran422 3. Ghetto way, and make the lens cleaner.
02:45 roadran422 4. Buy the lens cleaner.
02:45 roadran422 5. But a bit of alchocol on a disk and stick it in and hope it works.
02:45 roadran422 6. Stick a brush in and fish around with it.
02:45 RageRiot it's not worth it trying to bodge it up for the sake of not waiting.
02:45 roadran422 Which one(s)?
02:45 roadran422 Or for the sake of no money
02:45 dehve 7. Fill the Wii with concrete.
02:45 roadran422 :P ^
02:46 roadran422 Bring it to geeksquad and say, it got a bit heavier!
02:46 RageRiot how are you going to stick alcohol to a disk roadran422 ?
02:46 roadran422 You put a bit on it, smear it around on the disk, and some how velocity magically does work... Alc flys off
02:47 RageRiot it evaporates....
02:47 roadran422 Vapors touch the read disk...
02:47 roadran422 *head
02:47 RageRiot hard enough to dislodge durt....
02:47 RageRiot dirt*
02:47 roadran422 It's a try.
02:48 ^Prophet^ ?
02:49 RageRiot ye.. maybe if you was to quirt it inside while a disk was spinning but then you'll have a fire risk
02:49 roadran422 xD
02:49 roadran422 Try it. It works.
02:49 roadran422 ^Prophet^: Man it's your call!
02:49 ^Prophet^ *thinks*
02:50 * roadran422 waits
02:50 RageRiot lol you wouldn't catch me trying that with my ps3 or any cd lens in the house
02:50 roadran422 ...
02:50 roadran422 Why?
02:51 RageRiot because I may as well say good buy to a £300 investment
02:51 roadran422 lol
02:51 Ponko i didn't know that about myself
02:51 ^Prophet^ omg this game is broken
02:51 roadran422 ?
02:51 roadran422 Are you telling me the wii is fine and the game is broken?!?!?!?1//!/1
02:51 ^Prophet^ no
02:51 RageRiot :O
02:51 roadran422 Oh.. xD
02:51 ^Prophet^ im playing a gamecube game on my gamecube...
02:52 roadran422 Was going to say, we are blind from the obvious
02:52 ^Prophet^ Looney tunes back in action...
02:52 roadran422 ^Prophet^: The game or is it not reading..
02:52 roadran422 Well, is the gamecube able to read.
02:52 roadran422 And the wii
02:52 ^Prophet^ yeah
02:52 roadran422 ..
02:52 ^Prophet^ i have to Wii
02:52 ^Prophet^ 2*
02:52 ^Prophet^ a white one
02:52 roadran422 What's your choice?
02:52 * RageRiot 's breathing normalizes
02:52 roadran422 xD ^
02:52 ^Prophet^ that doesnt read disks but works fine otherwize
02:53 ^Prophet^ and a black one that reads disks
02:53 ^Prophet^ but isnt compatable with gamecube
02:53 ^Prophet^ controllers
02:53 roadran422 Oh...
02:53 ^Prophet^ ...
02:53 ^Prophet^ i need the controller aspect
02:53 roadran422 Ok..
02:53 LemPhone not too much longer now and optical disk consoles will go they way of cartridge based ones
02:53 ^Prophet^ if ima play a gcube game ima play it on my gcube
02:53 roadran422 lol
02:54 RageRiot and what about blue-ray on the ps3. I think they are going to stick a round a little longer
02:54 Ponko http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clan_Fraser i have a bit of scottish in me
02:54 BotSteve Title: Clan Fraser - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
02:54 Hackbat http://live.bittorrent.com/deanguitars.html
02:54 BotSteve Title: Dean Guitars — BitTorrent Live
02:54 Hackbat Fuck yes
02:55 Hackbat p2p + metal
02:55 LemPhone epic levels of meh
02:55 Ponko lol
02:56 * RageRiot says no to download *close page*
02:57 roadran422 So...
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02:57 ^Prophet^ *thinks*
02:57 roadran422 lol
02:58 RageRiot mind if I ask how old u are prophet?
02:58 roadran422 19?
02:58 ^Prophet^ 17
02:58 roadran422 Oh... lol
02:58 RageRiot k
02:58 roadran422 Ii'm 14.
02:59 RageRiot 25
02:59 roadran422 ..
02:59 roadran422 I have a hombrewed wii, games run off of harddrive...
03:00 roadran422 ^Prophet^: Might I ask why do you want the gc aspect?
03:00 ^Prophet^ super smash bros brawl///
03:00 roadran422 RageRiot: Did you watch the 1-18-12 captain's blog?
03:00 RageRiot yep
03:00 ^Prophet^ nosir
03:00 roadran422 I was mentioned
03:00 roadran422 Hy Diep (He Deep)
03:00 roadran422 The weirdest named member xD
03:00 RageRiot ahh
03:01 roadran422 Lol
03:01 Hackbat wooo it's starting
03:01 RageRiot where u from ?
03:01 roadran422 Zomb?
03:01 roadran422 Link!
03:01 roadran422 RageRiot: I'm from LA parents from Viet but I reside in Fl
03:01 RageRiot viet(nam?)
03:01 roadran422 Yes
03:02 roadran422 And I speak it also, and I can speak spanish (spanish 2)
03:02 RageRiot ahh
03:02 roadran422 Yah lol
03:02 roadran422 I have a tan skin color, I speak spanish (sort of) and I'm asina.
03:02 roadran422 *asian, but my facial features give it away.
03:03 RageRiot cool
03:03 roadran422 Yah...
03:03 RageRiot I'm british. while. hairy face.
03:04 RageRiot white*
03:04 roadran422 lol
03:04 RageRiot and can only speak englsih
03:04 RageRiot :P
03:04 roadran422 Which dialect?
03:04 roadran422 British or American?
03:05 RageRiot did I not just say british O_O
03:05 RageRiot lol
03:05 roadran422 You could lose it xD
03:05 Ponko what's this about british?
03:06 RageRiot nah
03:06 roadran422 lol
03:06 RageRiot readup ^
03:06 roadran422 RageRiot: You understand this joke then, "Do you want me to knock you up?"
03:06 RageRiot more like a threat than a joke
03:06 * tgg|wannabe|afk just had 3 guys sitting on her lap :P
03:06 tgg|wannabe|afk you know you're jealous
03:07 roadran422 tgg|wannabe|afk: You liking it ;) xD
03:07 roadran422 Chris went home?
03:07 tgg|wannabe|afk duh.  its blake on the bottom
03:07 roadran422 ...
03:07 tgg|wannabe|afk i dunno, signs say theres a live shoot in the MDH but idk if its true
03:07 roadran422 o ol
03:07 roadran422 *O ok
03:08 RageRiot roadran422 I was in 1-16-12 cpt's blog
03:08 ^Prophet^ *breaks the game some more*
03:08 roadran422 Your name?
03:08 roadran422 ^Prophet^: lol
03:08 tgg|wannabe|afk jayson aka the punisher is having too much fun dancing
03:09 RageRiot watch from 5:00 and my name is mentioned at 5:30
03:10 roadran422 Brian?
03:10 RageRiot ye
03:10 roadran422 Hey mate! xD
03:10 RageRiot witha y
03:10 RageRiot Bryan
03:10 roadran422 O...
03:10 RageRiot ;)
03:10 roadran422 My uncle's english name is Brian lol
03:10 RageRiot cool
03:10 roadran422 lol
03:10 RageRiot my dads called brian
03:11 roadran422 ..
03:11 tgg|wannabe|afk dave threw twinkies at the humans.  zombieland anyone?
03:11 roadran422 ....
03:11 roadran422 DOUBLE HAPPINESS! xD
03:11 tgg|wannabe|afk oooo no zombies.  let me go find a weapon
03:11 tgg|wannabe|afk bbl
03:11 RageRiot yes 25 years of us both saying " What?" when bryan is shouted
03:12 RageRiot well
03:12 RageRiot minus the first 4- 5 years I supose
03:12 roadran422 xD
03:12 roadran422 lol
03:13 RageRiot my dad liked the name.. and always wanted his spelt with a Y
03:13 RageRiot thats why..
03:13 roadran422 And his isn't, but yours is...
03:14 roadran422 My name can sometimes get confusing. I get distracted by who ever says "HE". But, just remember that I am never HIGH. -_-
03:14 RageRiot ye. and he was content with that
03:14 roadran422 Haha
03:14 roadran422 Ye? Ye mate
03:14 RageRiot ye I can see how that can be confusing
03:14 roadran422 haha, and why the ye?
03:15 roadran422 Pirate? Aussie?
03:15 RageRiot one of my work collegues is called Bryony
03:15 roadran422 At first that reminded of Gibroni
03:15 RageRiot and I always turn around when I hear it
03:15 RageRiot ye
03:15 roadran422 How do you pronounce it? Bry-Oni?
03:15 RageRiot yep
03:15 roadran422 xD
03:16 roadran422 Someone that wants to mess with you.. "Call up the winner, uh... Bry- YAH I WON! Wait... Bry-Oni... SHIT!
03:17 RageRiot my dog wants attension now :S
03:17 roadran422 Hahaha
03:17 roadran422 :rage:
03:17 roadran422 Give it some love hahaha
03:17 RageRiot it's bed time for her really
03:17 RageRiot me too tbh
03:18 roadran422 What time is over there?
03:18 RageRiot 03:18:07
03:18 roadran422 Where do you live?
03:18 RageRiot uk
03:18 RageRiot england
03:18 roadran422 Ah ok, AM I am guessing then
03:18 RageRiot ye
03:18 roadran422 DAMN. Go to sleep, my dad works at 4 am til 2 pm..
03:18 RageRiot what about you ?
03:18 roadran422 He's a machinist
03:18 roadran422 .t est
03:18 BotSteve Fri, 20 Jan 2012 22:18:52 EST
03:18 roadran422 ^
03:19 RageRiot :o
03:19 roadran422 Yah... I sleep at 11
03:20 roadran422 brb... Looking for something 2 eat
03:21 RageRiot I'm gonna go to bed then I supose
03:21 roadran422 Night RageRiot
03:21 RageRiot night roadran422
03:22 RageRiot night ^Prophet^
03:22 ^Prophet^ oh goodnight
03:22 RageRiot gld with ur wii
03:22 RageRiot gl*
03:23 RageRiot :)
03:23 roadran422 Yah... So your choice on the wii?
03:23 roadran422 Also, you could craigs it and get a crappier one..
03:23 ^Prophet^ ill try it tomarrowz
03:23 roadran422 lol
03:26 ^Prophet^ *eats a shoe*
03:27 roadran422 ?
03:27 ^Prophet^ idk
03:28 roadran422 ....
03:29 KB3NZQ where are my cookies
03:30 roadran422 lol
03:31 ^Prophet^ im playing star wars rogue squadron 3
03:31 ^Prophet^ :3
03:31 roadran422 ...
03:31 roadran422 Can you help me out ;) xD
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03:31 ^Prophet^ how?
03:31 roadran422 GBA SP....
03:31 ^Prophet^ i said yus
03:32 roadran422 Oh... Keep me posted lol thanks!
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03:32 roadran422 I got gba ruby... And I really want to test it out!
03:32 roadran422 I also have a few games that could go way better with more light
03:35 ^Prophet^ kk
03:35 roadran422 lol
03:38 roadran422 Brb
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03:46 roadran422 Back
03:48 ^Prophet^ wb
03:48 roadran422 lol
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03:55 BotSteve TOASTY!
03:56 Toastdude Hi
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03:56 roadran422 Hey Toastdude!
03:56 astro73|alice i lve how i usually see BotSteve's greeting before the join
03:56 ^Prophet^ lol
03:57 roadran422 I don't get any ;(
03:57 astro73|alice petition BatSteve. maybe he'll be nice
03:57 astro73|alice or maybe you'll get /ignore'd
03:57 BatSteve roadran422: that's because I don't know of any clever or funny things to say when you join
03:58 roadran422 ..
03:58 roadran422 Hmm
03:58 roadran422 Let me think.... He's high!
03:58 roadran422 That will work, my name is really Hy and people pronounce it as Hi but it's really He...
03:58 roadran422 or, Hy's High! xD
03:59 ^Prophet^ lol
03:59 BatSteve ...eeeeehhhh
03:59 BatSteve I dunno.
03:59 BatSteve Keep thinking about it.
04:00 roadran422 Why? It works lol
04:00 BatSteve I dunno.  I might just turn off all the greets, except for CaptainBoden and the staff members.
04:00 roadran422 :(
04:01 BatSteve For one thing they're kind of silly, for another thing, it makes everyone who doesn't have one sad that they don't have one.
04:01 ^Prophet^ i dont care :3
04:01 roadran422 True...
04:01 roadran422 lol
04:03 BatSteve grr...where did we put the greet code after we un-SQL'ed it?
04:03 roadran422 ...
04:03 roadran422 What are you doing?
04:03 roadran422 If you need to find the code, just search toastdude's greet in the codin?
04:04 BatSteve Oh.
04:04 BatSteve Greet.py
04:04 BatSteve ...duh
04:04 roadran422 lol
04:04 astro73|alice BatSteve: except adding a greet means no code changes
04:05 roadran422 Is everything coded in python?
04:05 BatSteve Pardon?
04:05 BatSteve astro73?
04:05 astro73|alice BatSteve: it's all in the storage system, remember? changing the default data won't affect anything
04:05 astro73|alice i did it just to migrate it
04:06 roadran422 How does on change coding for botsteve?
04:06 BatSteve roadran422: see here
04:06 BatSteve .code
04:06 BotSteve You can download my code at https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve
04:06 roadran422 How do you upload it then?
04:07 BatSteve roadran422: I'll tell you in a minute
04:07 roadran422 Oh ok
04:07 BatSteve I'm gonna figure this thing out that astro is trying to explain to me first
04:07 BatSteve and which I'm failing to grasp
04:07 roadran422 ok lol
04:07 astro73|alice BatSteve: remember how the JSON store works?
04:07 BatSteve I thought I did.  But now I'm confused.
04:08 astro73|alice ok, here's how you add roadran
04:08 BatSteve It doesn't re-initialize the storage every time, obviously.
04:08 BatSteve which I thought it did.
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04:08 astro73|alice cd ~/.phenny/greets
04:08 astro73|alice cp <anyone else> roadran422
04:08 astro73|alice nano roadran422
04:08 BatSteve ah
04:08 BatSteve right
04:08 BatSteve gotcha from there.
04:08 astro73|alice oh hell no. it does not reinitialize storage
04:09 astro73|alice that would defeat the purpose
04:09 BatSteve yep, I see it now.
04:09 roadran422 ....
04:09 roadran422 I am no codder... astro
04:09 astro73|alice roadran422: that wasn't meant for you. and it was all bourne shell
04:09 roadran422 oh lol
04:09 roadran422 It had my name in it so... lol
04:10 BatSteve hmm
04:10 BatSteve hey astro, is the whitespace significant in these files?
04:10 astro73|alice nope. it's just JSON
04:10 BatSteve aight
04:11 astro73|alice i just wrote it to indent on save to make it better for you
04:11 roadran422 So... What's the problem in coding? Also, who coded all of this?
04:11 BatSteve Ok
04:11 tgg|wannabe|afk we're done.
04:11 tgg|wannabe|afk bbl
04:12 roadran422 Got shot?
04:12 tgg|wannabe|afk duh.
04:12 tgg|wannabe|afk but our team won (friendly fire
04:12 tgg|wannabe|afk and i'm out of battery, so i must leave now
04:12 roadran422 lol
04:12 roadran422 Night tgg|wannabe|afk
04:13 ^Prophet^ night
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04:13 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
04:13 BatSteve okay
04:13 roadran422 ...
04:13 BatSteve that wasn't actually boden, that was me.
04:14 roadran422 Oh... What are you working on?
04:14 astro73|alice roadran422: no problem in the coding. just problems in brains. and coding is a mix.
04:14 roadran422 O ok...
04:14 BatSteve Yeah.
04:14 BatSteve <-- cannot brain
04:14 roadran422 I really want a cool greeting.....
04:14 ^Prophet^ i has pie :3
04:14 * roadran422 bribes.
04:14 roadran422 Well, it's night over here
04:14 roadran422 Night all!
04:14 ^Prophet^ night
04:14 roadran422|zZz ^Prophet^: Good luck with the wii
04:15 ^Prophet^ ty
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04:15 BatSteve good
04:15 BatSteve Hey astro
04:15 BatSteve that is some slick greeter code you have written there.
04:15 BatSteve Thanks!
04:16 ^Prophet^ *eats pie*
04:16 astro73|alice BatSteve: ... i didn't just pull out the old greet code?
04:17 BatSteve Not that part, the part where no restart is needed
04:17 astro73|alice oh, that's part of the storage system
04:17 astro73|alice one of the design requirements
04:19 astro73|alice all the modules work that way
04:19 roadran422|zZz Ok... So no more greetings xD
04:19 astro73|alice roadran422|zZz: huh?
04:19 roadran422|zZz ...
04:19 roadran422|zZz When CaptainBoden entered I ddin't see a greeting?
04:20 astro73|alice .log
04:20 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
04:20 roadran422|zZz I really didn't see a greating...
04:20 roadran422|zZz (11:15:18 PM) BatSteve: good
04:20 roadran422|zZz (11:15:21 PM) captainboden left the room (quit: Client Quit).
04:20 roadran422|zZz (11:15:40 PM) BatSteve: Hey astro
04:20 astro73|alice oh you're right
04:20 roadran422|zZz That's what happened ^ No greeting for captain xD
04:20 roadran422|zZz BatSteve: You removed it?
04:21 astro73|alice http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/2012-01-21#i_5024094
04:21 astro73|alice no, it's random
04:21 roadran422|zZz O lol
04:21 BotSteve Title: IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-01-21
04:21 astro73|alice it doesn't happen every time
04:21 roadran422|zZz O ok
04:21 astro73|alice well, he might have removed it
04:21 roadran422|zZz ...
04:21 BatSteve roadran422|zZz: yeah, no more greetings except for CaptainBoden and Mr. Kidwell.
04:21 roadran422|zZz Well, peace! Night all in irc!
04:21 astro73|alice awww
04:22 astro73|alice i liked my greet!
04:22 roadran422|zZz BatSteve: Oh ok... In fairness I should say Dan should also... I think atelast
04:22 BatSteve I know.
04:22 astro73|alice narcacistic, maybe
04:22 BatSteve roadran422|zZz: is Dan ever on IRC?
04:22 roadran422|zZz I liked my suggestion astro73|alice.... "Hy's High"
04:22 roadran422|zZz BatSteve: Yah..
04:22 roadran422|zZz He was on 2 days ok?
04:22 roadran422|zZz *og
04:22 roadran422|zZz *ago Magglinvinn <--- something like taht
04:22 BatSteve Oh, right
04:23 roadran422|zZz lol
04:23 roadran422|zZz well night
04:23 astro73|alice shoo, boy!
04:23 astro73|alice don't make us kick you!
04:23 roadran422|zZz :P
04:23 roadran422|zZz No one's watching me... lol
04:23 ^Prophet^ i am
04:23 roadran422|zZz ...
04:24 roadran422|F|zZz Just to irk masterofmonks
04:24 * masterofmonks kicks roadran422|F|zZz
04:25 roadran422|F|zZz You can't just kick me because of my name... It's not righteous
04:25 roadran422|F|zZz Well night! xD 3rd time alread
04:25 * masterofmonks sets mode #thegeekgroup +b roadran*@*
04:25 roadran422|F|zZz ?
04:25 roadran422|F|zZz what that do?
04:25 roadran422|F|zZz OH. HELL NO.
04:25 CaptainNiobe done properly, it's a ban
04:25 roadran422|F|zZz Don't ban me :(
04:25 masterofmonks Except it wasn't.
04:25 roadran422|F|zZz Again... Night lol
04:26 masterofmonks was kicked by CaptainNiobe: Don't tease the members, baby... *headdesk*
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04:27 roadran422|F|zZz CaptainNiobe thanks! xD
04:27 roadran422|F|zZz Adios... Buenos noches
04:27 CaptainNiobe welcome, roadran422... lol...
04:28 eadthem weather for olathe kansas
04:28 eadthem tonight low of 12   sunday  high of 60
04:28 eadthem sunday night  snow
04:28 eadthem monday  high of 46
04:29 eadthem it wouldnt be so bad if it was just cold for a while and then warm
04:29 eadthem but every other day gets old
04:30 astro73|alice BatSteve: i like how many ask about the code, but how few people can actually figure it out
04:30 Hackbat I should sleep but beta testing is more important
04:30 BatSteve either that or they know that it's less effort to just ask you than to figure it out themselves.
04:30 BatSteve that's what I do!
04:30 BatSteve (:
04:31 Hackbat again, http://live.bittorrent.com/deanguitars.html decent music
04:32 BotSteve Title: Dean Guitars — BitTorrent Live
04:32 astro73|alice BatSteve: the sad part is that i'm not sure if it could be made easier
04:36 BatSteve Yeah
04:36 BatSteve it's hard to balance multiple proficiency levels.
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04:37 astro73|alice i figure that you learn to be a polyglot and then keep stacks of reference books around
04:39 astro73|alice i'm sure i could get up to speed on VB6 in a few days if i had to, even though i haven't touched it since high school
04:40 tehdark45 astro73|alice, why in all that is good would you want to use VB6?
04:40 tehdark45 :P
04:40 astro73|alice tehdark45: easy for simple GUIs (vs other tools at the time), and i was just learning when i started using it
04:40 astro73|alice plus, i had access to the enterprise edition
04:41 tehdark45 I mean now
04:41 astro73|alice legacy apps
04:41 astro73|alice i wouldn't want to use it for new projects, except for extenuating circumstances
04:41 tehdark45 Or installing things silently
04:41 astro73|alice meh
04:41 tehdark45 since .net isnt pre installed
04:41 tehdark45 lol
04:42 astro73|alice you you could make an EXE of a number of scripting languages
04:42 tehdark45 yeah
04:42 astro73|alice heck, NSIS might have options for headless
04:42 tehdark45 are you any good with java?
04:43 astro73|alice tehdark45: i'm alright. I prefer not to use it, and i haven't touched it since my AP exams
04:44 tehdark45 Ok do you know how to do factorials? My stupid prof desides to give an assignment where you enter in a number and get the factorial
04:44 astro73|alice ...
04:44 astro73|alice yes
04:45 astro73|alice and i'm not doing your homework for you
04:45 tehdark45 no the thing is
04:45 BatSteve I think you should use recursion.
04:45 astro73|alice factorial is not hard
04:45 astro73|alice BatSteve: no, he clearly needs to use an anonymous callback function
04:45 tehdark45 she didnt explain anything
04:45 tehdark45 about that
04:46 BatSteve I think he should use jQuery.
04:46 astro73|alice tehdark45: do you know how factorial is computed?
04:46 tehdark45 No
04:46 astro73|alice 5! = 5*4*3*2*1
04:46 astro73|alice 2! = 2*1
04:46 tehdark45 i know what it is i just dont know how to go about it
04:47 tehdark45 for loop/
04:47 astro73|alice 10! = 10*9*8*7*...
04:47 tehdark45 ?*
04:47 astro73|alice you can use a loop of some sort
04:47 astro73|alice recursion is also a valid option
04:48 astro73|alice factorial is not difficult at all. i'm not going to do your homework
04:48 astro73|alice except in scheme
04:50 BatSteve ooh, here
04:50 BatSteve http://progopedia.com/example/factorial/18/
04:50 BotSteve Title: Factorial - Example for versions EsCo 0.511 (Brainfuck), Müller's Brainfuck 2.0 - Progopedia - Encyclopedia of Programming Languages
04:50 astro73|alice (define factorial (n) (cond [(== n 1) 1] [default (factorial (- n 1))]))
04:50 tehdark45 yes BatSteve  that will get me an A+
04:50 tehdark45 :P
04:51 astro73|alice oops, i did that wrong
04:52 astro73|alice (define factorial (n) (cond [(== n 1) 1] [default (* n (factorial (- n 1)))]))
04:53 astro73|alice it's an important step
04:57 Thermoelectric Home sweet home.
04:57 ^Prophet^ i am tired maybe i should go to bed
04:59 BatSteve Go for it, sleep is awesome.
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05:05 Toastdude Bye
05:06 BatSteve bye toast!
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05:35 tonsofpcs .c 3.5mm to inches
05:35 BotSteve 0.137795276 inches
05:36 tonsofpcs .c 1/8 inches to mm
05:36 BotSteve 3.17500 millimeters
05:37 tehdark45 so
05:38 tehdark45 1/8 isnt really 3.5mm O_o
05:39 tonsofpcs it's entirrely nominal
05:40 tehdark45 .c 1/4 in to mm
05:40 BotSteve 6.35 millimeters
05:40 MoxieMike .c 1 euro to USD
05:40 BotSteve 1.2922 U.S. dollars
05:41 MoxieMike not as bad as i anticipated
05:41 tehdark45 .c 1 euro to pound
05:41 BotSteve 0.831478026 British pounds
05:42 tonsofpcs .c 1 pound to mol silver
05:42 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
05:42 tonsofpcs .c 1 mol silver to pounds
05:42 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
05:42 tonsofpcs hmm
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05:45 tehdark45 .c 1 mole Gold to g
05:45 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
05:45 tehdark45 lol
05:45 tehdark45 doesnt do chem
05:45 tonsofpcs .wa 1 mol silver in pounds
05:45 BotSteve convert 1 mol of silver  (chemical element) to pounds;0.238 lb  (pounds);108 grams;0.108 kg  (kilograms);3.8 oz  (ounces);~~ 0.3 &times; mass of a full 12-ounce aluminum soda can (including the can and soda) (~~ 355 g );~~ 19 &times; mass of a US quarter ( 0.0125 lb );~~ 43 &times; mass of a US penny ( 2.5 g );mass;Weight w of a body from w = mg:, ->0.24 lbf  (pounds-force), ->0.0074 slugf  (slugs-force), ->1.1 N  (newt
05:45 tonsofpcs ;)
05:45 tonsofpcs pounds sterling!
05:45 tehdark45 lol
05:46 tonsofpcs .wa 1 pound to mols silver
05:46 BotSteve 1 convert 1 mol of silver  (chemical element) to pounds;0.238 lb  (pounds);108 grams;0.108 kg  (kilograms);3.8 oz  (ounces);~~ 0.3 &times; mass of a full 12-ounce aluminum soda can (including the can and soda) (~~ 355 g );~~ 19 &times; mass of a US quarter ( 0.0125 lb );~~ 43 &times; mass of a US penny ( 2.5 g );mass;Weight w of a body from w = mg:, ->0.24 lbf  (pounds-force), ->0.0074 slugf  (slugs-force), ->1.1 N  (ne
05:46 tonsofpcs hmm
05:47 tehdark45 hmm
05:51 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, doing homework?
05:51 tehdark45 :P
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05:54 tonsofpcs no
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06:02 sndwrx I have a cat behind my head, kneading pillows.
06:03 sndwrx And on my lap a MacBook, laptop, Nook Tablet, Kindle Touch and Kindle Keyboard...  :/
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06:05 BatSteve ....
06:05 BatSteve why?
06:07 tehdark45 To be cool like that
06:07 tehdark45 lol
06:07 egrsteve hello
06:08 tehdark45 hello mr freeze
06:09 egrsteve thanks
06:09 tehdark45 i see you have popped back into existance
06:09 egrsteve for now
06:10 tehdark45 famous last words?
06:10 egrsteve maybe
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06:14 sndwrx BatSteve:  Teaching a class on eReader devices tomorrow, and just refreshing.
06:15 BatSteve ahhh
06:15 BatSteve Gtocha
06:15 tehdark45 sndwrx, class on ereaders? is it for old folk?
06:15 tehdark45 :P
06:16 tehdark45 .seen lwq1996
06:16 BotSteve tehdark45: I last saw lwq1996 961.59 hours ago at 2011-12-12 04:41:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:16:37 UTC
06:16 wannabe1987 hi
06:16 wannabe1987 the drive home was pretty much ok :D
06:17 sndwrx tehdark45: ...no.  It's for all ages.
06:17 sndwrx hi wannabe1987.
06:17 wannabe1987 hi sndwrx
06:18 wannabe1987 it was difficult staying awake, but the highway was fine, as was alpine and 44th.  the side streets other than that (14th, and in my subdivision) were not
06:18 wannabe1987 i slid a bit :P
06:18 * wannabe1987 was surrounded by males for most of the night :D
06:18 sndwrx Glad you made it okay.
06:18 wannabe1987 me too!
06:18 sndwrx Coming home from work or what?
06:19 wannabe1987 nope.  zomb @ lab, and then we went to steak and shake afterwards
06:19 sndwrx aha.
06:19 wannabe1987 mhm
06:19 wannabe1987 i owe BA more money, but he said i could pay him tuesday :P
06:20 wannabe1987 BotSteve?
06:20 sndwrx aha.
06:22 tehdark45 sndwrx, you know what i mean
06:23 tehdark45 .tfw surrey
06:23 BotSteve 38 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Surrey, CA!  'Really?'
06:23 tehdark45 .c 38 f to c
06:23 BotSteve 3.33333333 degrees Celsius
06:26 wannabe1987 .seen toastdude
06:26 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Toastdude 1.35 hours ago at 2012-01-21 05:05:48 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:26:39 UTC
06:26 wannabe1987 awww i missed him :P
06:27 tehdark45 lee is MIA
06:27 sndwrx .wx
06:27 BotSteve Try .weather London, for example?
06:27 sndwrx .wx 49508
06:27 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 15.8℉ (-9℃), 30.11in (1016mb), Gentle breeze 7kt (↑) - KGRR 05:53Z
06:28 sndwrx Not bad.  It was only 9F earlier.
06:29 wannabe1987 mhm
06:29 ^Prophet^ good night everyone
06:30 tehdark45 byr ^Prophet^
06:30 tehdark45 bye*
06:30 wannabe1987 night
06:30 ^Prophet^ *slams his face on his desk and starts snoring*
06:30 * wannabe1987 removes you to a bed with blankets and warmth
06:31 * tehdark45 gives ^Prophet^ an Advil
06:31 ^Prophet^ xD
06:31 ^Prophet^ i like wannabe :P she is nice to me xD
06:32 wannabe1987 hun, i'm nice to *almost* everyone
06:32 ^Prophet^ xD
06:32 tehdark45 shes too touchy
06:32 ^Prophet^ o.O is that bad?
06:32 wannabe1987 what?
06:32 tehdark45 yes
06:33 ^Prophet^ how is that bad
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06:33 wannabe1987 .log
06:33 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
06:33 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
06:34 ^Prophet^ o_O
06:34 Thermoelectric Morning Cap'n.
06:34 wannabe1987 too touchy?  wtf does that mean?
06:34 wannabe1987 and boden's thinger here is at the lab, so um its 1:33am, he's not there
06:35 wannabe1987 i didn't see him tonight
06:35 ^Prophet^ *ignores the alarm thing from steve and falls back asleep*
06:35 Thermoelectric Well, 1:33am is technically morning. :P
06:37 tehdark45 woot for technicallity
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06:38 ^Prophet^ stop arguing im trying to sleep...
06:38 tehdark45 close IRC?
06:38 tehdark45 :P
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06:39 ^Prophet^ to lazy
06:39 tehdark45 lol
06:39 wannabe1987 BotSteve: ask tehdark45 what it means "she's too touchy"
06:39 Thermoelectric Type /part
06:39 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when tehdark45 is around.
06:39 ^Prophet^ i just made a twitter for no reason
06:39 wannabe1987 i'm @wannabe1987
06:40 ^Prophet^ followed :D
06:40 tehdark45 BotSteve, tell wannabe1987 sorry, you are ignoring me. I didn't hear you
06:40 BotSteve tehdark45: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
06:40 BotSteve tehdark45: I have the following messages for you:
06:40 BotSteve At 06:39Z, wannabe1987 asked me to ask tehdark45 what it means "she's too touchy"
06:40 Thermoelectric I'm Thermoelectric7 on Twitter if anyone cares.
06:41 ^Prophet^ no\
06:41 ^Prophet^ no one does :P
06:41 Thermoelectric Awesome.
06:42 ^Prophet^ followed :3
06:44 Thermoelectric And return followed. :)
06:44 ^Prophet^ :DDD yay
06:44 sndwrx Tradsies?
06:44 ^Prophet^ wannabe
06:44 sndwrx TRADSIES!
06:44 sndwrx lol
06:44 sndwrx lol?
06:44 ^Prophet^ did you follow me o_O
06:44 sndwrx LOL!
06:44 ^Prophet^ no
06:44 ^Prophet^ :P
06:45 tehdark45 lol Follow 4 follow
06:45 wannabe1987 what?  hm?  i'm half awake
06:45 BotSteve wannabe1987: I have the following messages for you:
06:45 BotSteve At 06:40Z, tehdark45 asked me to tell wannabe1987 sorry, you are ignoring me. I didn't hear you
06:45 wannabe1987 whatever, you're an ass anyway
06:45 * sndwrx laughs.
06:45 ^Prophet^ wannabe: did you followz me
06:46 ^Prophet^ btw wannabe
06:46 ^Prophet^ [00:42] <tehdark45> and she will rage [00:43] <tehdark45> too easily offended [00:43] <tehdark45> would be a better way to phrase it [00:45] <tehdark45> and then she doesnt have the decency to keep issues private [00:46] <tehdark45> i would
06:46 ^Prophet^ :3
06:46 dr_jkl hey
06:46 dr_jkl liten
06:46 tehdark45 lol now see if I was wannabe1987 , i would have ignored you
06:46 sndwrx Nice.  Save the drama for Obama.
06:47 wannabe1987 prophet....no, cuz i'm not logged on
06:47 dr_jkl tehdark45, wannabe1987: both of you stop it or i'll kick both your asses out
06:47 wannabe1987 i'm NOT DOING ANYTHING
06:47 * sndwrx hugs dr_jkl
06:47 tehdark45 neither am I
06:47 * sndwrx snickers.
06:47 dr_jkl good, then nothing will happen.
06:47 egrsteve morning all, well except you
06:47 ^Prophet^ *eats a shoe*
06:47 wannabe1987 hi steve!  (again)
06:48 tehdark45 who is you O_o
06:48 Thermoelectric Morning egrsteve
06:48 Cprossu technically it also isn't morning here too
06:48 tehdark45 lol
06:48 egrsteve no, not you that other guy
06:48 Cprossu haha
06:48 tehdark45 lol egrsteve
06:48 Cprossu hey egrsteve what's up
06:48 Cprossu or down
06:48 Cprossu or cooked
06:48 egrsteve ceiling
06:48 Cprossu (besides that rectifier in the furnace)
06:48 egrsteve not a rectifier
06:48 Cprossu I am guessing it was the one that was going BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
06:48 Cprossu contactor?
06:48 egrsteve it was a transformer
06:48 tehdark45 Cprossu, you lost the game
06:48 tehdark45 :P
06:49 Cprossu funnily enough
06:49 Cprossu the furnace techs still call them rectifiers =P
06:49 egrsteve the BZZZ may have been the dust mask in the impeller
06:49 Cprossu even if they are AC
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06:49 tehdark45 imma rectify AC to AC durr durr
06:49 Cprossu but it was the 24-48 vac(?)
06:49 Thermoelectric Which furnace techs are you referring to, Keags?
06:49 Cprossu no.
06:49 egrsteve 24v 40VA
06:49 Cprossu just I've seen it in documentation before
06:50 Cprossu specifically carrier
06:50 tehdark45 O_o
06:50 tehdark45 interesting
06:50 egrsteve wide voltage range unit?
06:50 Cprossu beats me
06:50 Cprossu cheapo home unit
06:51 tehdark45 Cprossu, Chinese -> english manual maybe?
06:51 Cprossu highly doubt it
06:53 wannabe1987 the mdh was nice and warm today :D
06:54 BatSteve time for sleepz
06:54 wannabe1987 night bats
06:54 tehdark45 bai BatSteve-Away
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06:55 sndwrx I'm hungry.
06:55 ^Prophet^ *hands him a cookie*
06:55 wannabe1987 .sandwich sndwrx
06:55 BotSteve Here you go, sndwrx, I made you a turkey on rye sandwich!
06:55 tehdark45 a  lvl 1 Experimentonomen appears
06:55 wannabe1987 i had fries and a shake at stteak n shake
06:55 wannabe1987 hi Experimentonomen!
06:56 wannabe1987 what do you mean, lvl 1?
06:56 sndwrx I could go for some chili fries.
06:56 ^Prophet^ level 1
06:56 wannabe1987 yes
06:56 wannabe1987 why level one?
06:56 tehdark45 Pokemon
06:56 ^Prophet^ *headdesks and snores* to tired to explain...
06:56 ^Prophet^ derp
06:56 ^Prophet^ :3
06:56 wannabe1987 i don't do pokemons
06:56 wannabe1987 sorry
06:57 sndwrx wannabe1987:  Maybe not, but surely you understand the concept of levels.
06:57 wannabe1987 yes
06:57 * sndwrx nods.
06:57 wannabe1987 i do understand that, when i'm more awake anyway
06:57 tehdark45 you gotta at least know the "a wild x appears"
06:57 tehdark45 or lvls
06:57 wannabe1987 a wild blake appears!  :D
06:57 sndwrx It often entertains me when people offer clarification from the most elementary approach, assuming that another couldn't possibly have an existing understanding of the topic.
06:58 * sndwrx smirks.
06:58 tehdark45 lol
07:00 tehdark45 I think Comcrap is serving GH well
07:00 tehdark45 lol
07:01 wannabe1987 grand haven?
07:01 sndwrx Grand Haven?
07:01 wannabe1987 or geek house?
07:01 tehdark45 Heek House
07:01 tehdark45 Geek*
07:01 sndwrx aha.
07:01 tehdark45 cuse Chris is timing out like crazy
07:01 ^Prophet^ night all
07:01 ^Prophet^ for real this time
07:01 tehdark45 cya ^Prophet^
07:02 wannabe1987 its at the lab....not geek house
07:02 wannabe1987 i've said this before
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07:03 wannabe1987 hi mom
07:03 tehdark45 so what is GH internet?
07:03 CaptainNiobe nice to see his machine isn't dead - yet lol
07:03 wannabe1987 lol niobe
07:04 CaptainNiobe i kept him up, i was about to pull up the webcam on a skype call and he disappeared... lol...
07:05 tehdark45 Captain vs Captain?
07:05 wannabe-zz night
07:05 CaptainNiobe to masterofmonks, tehdark45... lol...
07:05 CaptainNiobe night wannabe-zz :)
07:06 wannabe-zz night niobe :)
07:07 Thermoelectric Night wannabe-zz
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07:51 Thermoelectric Hiya wub
07:59 Cprossu hahaha @ teh
07:59 Cprossu * tehdark
07:59 Cprossu who is gone
08:08 Cheezmo ok,at like 8:00 in Friday's Captain's Blog... what is that room with all the boards/sticks??
08:10 Thermoelectric I saw that too. I thought they already arranged all those. (they are the floorboards which were ripped out of the MDH, I believe)
08:10 Cheezmo ohh, ok
08:10 Thermoelectric I'm sure in one of the other blogs they had them in a nice pretty pile, guess there was more than one pile.
08:10 Cheezmo Guess there was just a room open to throw them in
08:11 Cheezmo I need to go there one day to really feel how huge that place is
08:11 Cheezmo Have to go to Danville, IL one day anyways
08:12 Thermoelectric I agree, would be wonderful to visit and turn that online image into something real.
08:14 dr_jkl AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA
08:14 dr_jkl "What's got little balls and hangs down? ... A bat. What's got big balls and hangs up?"  *click*
08:15 Thermoelectric XD That's a great line to use to hang up on someone.
08:15 Cheezmo I lol'd
08:24 Experimentonomen *yawn* guten morgen geeks & weirdos
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08:48 dr_jkl Experimentonomen: wie gehts es ihnen?
08:55 Experimentonomen thinkin abt goin to get somethin to eat
08:55 Experimentonomen its snowing like mad here :(
09:21 * Experimentonomen returns with hair full with snow
09:31 einball good morning
09:32 einball tfwc Muhlacker
09:32 einball .tfwc Muhlacker
09:32 BotSteve 0 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND WET IN Muhlacker, GM!  'Your source of crude weather!'
09:32 Thermoelectric .tfw Cairns
09:32 BotSteve 81 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Cairns, AS!  'Looked in the fridge this morning for some eggs. They're already cooked.'
09:32 Thermoelectric .tfwc Cairns
09:32 einball wrong. it's 4*C
09:32 BotSteve 27 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Cairns, AS!  'HOLY FUCK'
09:34 einball headache wins! Flawless victory!
09:40 Experimentonomen guten morgen herr einball
09:41 einball I love the shot on 07:00:00 on the newest cptns Blog :)
09:41 einball hi Experimentonomen
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09:43 einball Oh, High voltage lab and CAT5? Baaad idea
09:45 Thermoelectric Was the CAT5 Steve had not shielded?
09:45 einball That doesn't matter
09:46 Thermoelectric Ah, okay.
09:46 einball The electric field may be blocked, but you can't block the magnetic field that appears with those high voltages
09:46 Monkeh|Lap .. well you kinda can but it takes a bit more than some aluminium foil.
09:46 einball You have always an electrical field and a magnetig (B) field.
09:47 einball Monkeh|Lap: thousands of millimeters of copper shielding :)
09:47 Monkeh|Lap einball: Yeah, that'd do the trick.
09:47 Thermoelectric Metal conduit was mentioned once or twice to run cables into the HVL wasn't it? That'd stop a majority of the magnetic field, right?
09:48 Monkeh|Lap Let's see, ferrous conduit with a strong magnetic field applied to it, filled with data cables. No, not liking that plan.
09:49 einball Thermoelectric: Yes. But a round from thumper is still critical due to the B-fiels
09:49 einball The rings would weaken the field according to Lenz's law, but if you consider the amount of power delivered by thumber .. uup :)
09:51 Thermoelectric Ah, okay.
09:51 einball One need to test that. It would be a shame if the port on the video panel broke down :)
09:51 einball or better: one need to test if the ports on the panel have baluns too.
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10:14 einball1 hm, that was cptn's blog
10:20 * Experimentonomen thinks abt pulling this out and mount it onto some kinda board: http://imgur.com/a/QVgDO
10:20 BotSteve Title: jfetinlateralout - Imgur
10:24 einball1 OMG OMG OMG!!!
10:25 einball1 Experimentonomen: http://www.kaltmacher.de/board/small-talk-f349/zeige-uns-deine-neusten-errungenschaften--t67917-s2310.html#p1111472
10:25 BotSteve Title: Zeige uns deine neusten Errungenschaften . • kaltmacher.de
10:25 einball1 You may not be able to read the description but I think you're able to read the data :D
10:26 Experimentonomen i have heard a CV stroker 18" irl
10:26 einball1 And you're not deaf ? :P
10:26 Experimentonomen in a VW Golf of all things
10:27 Experimentonomen it literally shook the school building from miles away
10:27 einball1 :D
10:27 einball1 That's supposed to be a PA sub, isn't it? :P
10:28 einball1 oh no, it's not. Damn :)
10:34 Experimentonomen whatever it is, its known to be one of the ugliest subs ever made
10:34 Thermoelectric Ugly can be hidden.
10:35 einball1 Experimentonomen: who cares about uglyness? I care about the sound only
10:36 Experimentonomen the stroker 18 is also known to sound kinda bad compared to other subs in that size as far as i've heard from ppl
10:37 einball1 Experimentonomen: Who cares? The stroker had been developed for sound pressure :P
10:37 einball1 And who cares about clear sound if the wax starts to come out of your ears :D
10:38 Thermoelectric That'd be an interesting experience.
10:39 einball1 I'm a little bit in a Rammstein - Zerstören mood :-/
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10:39 ajcc hi!
10:40 Thermoelectric Hey ajcc
10:40 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9PSA06kRbQ
10:40 BotSteve Title: Testing Cerwin-Vega Stroker 18" - YouTube
10:41 ajcc Thermoelectric: Hey Thermoelectric
10:41 ajcc anyone got the URL to the Captains Blog remix on Vimeo?
10:42 Thermoelectric http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fvimeo.com%2F35248991&amp;h=UAQHFwGFnAQHTkHFWep6TgFs-LehXlJRvQ11Epls9IjmMiQ
10:42 BotSteve Title: Leaving Facebook... | Facebook
10:42 Thermoelectric Pfft.
10:42 Thermoelectric http://vimeo.com/35248991
10:42 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group is awesome! on Vimeo
10:42 ajcc thanks
10:43 Thermoelectric No prob.
10:43 ajcc Vimeo lacks the Google smartness that will let you find stuff on pages full of junk :)
10:43 Thermoelectric Yeah.
10:43 ajcc in Vimeo's case, a zillion test videos and "experiments" with video editing, it seems :P
10:45 * Experimentonomen steals einball1's sub
10:45 ajcc wow, that's one weird video and song
10:46 Thermoelectric Particle man, particle man...
10:46 einball1 Experimentonomen: Do so .. I got my headphones playing louder at lower freqs than the sub ;)
10:47 einball1 Experimentonomen: The cool thing is with those Pa chassis and small amps: they have a treshold :)
10:48 einball1 Play below a certain volume level they are quite small and supportive
10:48 einball1 but get over that treshold and they start being bitchy:D
10:49 david____ Lol, Alex Jones just had Richard Stallman on...  Funny crap, especially since Alex knows nothing about technology, getting preached to by RMS.  youtube.com/user/TheAlexJonesChannel  Mostly talked about SOPA/PIPA/DRM.
10:50 einball1 david____: Do you know The "general war on coming computation" talk from the ccc?
10:50 einball1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUEvRyemKSg david____
10:50 BotSteve Title: 28c3: The coming war on general computation - YouTube
10:50 david____ War on General Purpose Computing?
10:50 einball1 quite nice
10:50 einball1 yes
10:50 david____ yes, listened to it the other day actually
10:50 einball1 so great :)
10:51 david____ then listened to a bunch of his other talks.  I'm a huge fan of him now.
10:51 Experimentonomen man i wanna unlesh my 220W amp into something bigger! :/
10:51 david____ I can't believe I didn't already know who he was.
10:52 einball1 Experimentonomen: Visit me! Feel free to do holidays over here :)
10:52 einball1 Or just stop by while doing a travel
10:52 Experimentonomen einball1, not even your sub will take 220 watts rms for more than a few seconds before overheating
10:52 einball1 Sure?
10:52 Experimentonomen yes
10:52 einball1 It's rated at 600Watts RMS
10:53 einball1 practical use before distortion bout 300watts
10:53 Experimentonomen subs so called RMS rating is usually a gross overrated PMPO
10:53 einball1 I've a friend that tested this out
10:53 Experimentonomen i cooked a "300W" car sum with a mere 16 watts of power
10:54 david____ K, back to rotting my brain on Youtube...  I've been too tired/hurting the last few days to do much more.
10:54 einball1 Experimentonomen: not with PA subs. If they are rated wrong then the whole system may blow.
10:54 einball1 kk have fun david____ :)
10:55 Experimentonomen btw my subamp aint exactly portable
10:55 david____ yep, have a good one.
10:55 einball1 Experimentonomen: Well, overheating is quite easy. do 5Watt Dc on the sub and it will start smoking right away :)
10:56 Experimentonomen http://grooveshark.com/s/Castor+1+/3rcvig?src=5 <-- this track threatens the structural integrity of my apartment with just my little toy of a sub rated at 200W max
10:56 BotSteve Title: Castor (1) by Daft Punk on Tron Legacy (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) - Free Music Streaming, Online Music, Videos - Grooveshark
10:57 einball1 Aufgrund unverhältnismäßig hoher Betriebskosten stellt
10:57 einball1 Grooveshark den Zugriff aus Deutschland ein.
10:57 Experimentonomen btw how did u wire a stereo amp to your sub, feeding both channels the same signal and just parallelling the outputs or a DVC sub ?
10:58 einball1 paralleling the outputs (I know thats not okay, but better than nothing ;))
10:58 einball1 Our  "Society for Musical Performing and MechanicalReproduction Rights " killed youtube killed grooveshark ... fuck germany .. just fuck that country. blow it or do whatever with it, but erase it
10:59 Experimentonomen as long as u feed the same mono mixed signal to both channels, it should be fine, may run alittle warmer as the dc offset on both channels may be alittle different
11:00 einball1 I feed the left chan and bridged to the right aswell.
11:01 Experimentonomen oki
11:04 Experimentonomen i wye the stereo signal at the stereo amps input, send it through a dual opamp buffer, then sub them to mono with two 6.8k resistors and then send the mono signal to the crossover and after that through a level control and on to the subamp
11:09 Sgt_Lemming home now
11:10 Thermoelectric Cool.
11:46 ajcc http://www.explosm.net/comics/2580/ HEHE
11:46 BotSteve Title: Cyanide & Happiness #2580 - Explosm.net
12:02 Experimentonomen pppphhhhhhhhhhhbbbbbbbbbbbbbt
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12:38 Druidic_Rifleman morning geeks
12:43 Experimentonomen g'day shotgun gunman ;)
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12:49 einball damn
12:49 einball my resolution is wrong
12:50 einball and my xorg.conf does not exist o_o
12:52 Electricguy sigh... it's snowing! -,-
12:56 roadran422|F|zZz Yo!
12:56 roadran422 Morning all
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13:16 Sgt_Lemming https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/PCBS?authkey=Gv1sRgCK73t-Cw3pmLmwE#5700073073490541154
13:16 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming . - PCB's
13:25 Druidic_Rifleman Speaking of shot guns any one else see the magpul 870 parts that just came out...
13:28 dbshortwave i think it stopped snowing for now
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13:32 einball Lol
13:32 einball It was a big bug :D
13:32 einball Installed the backport kernel solved it
13:44 dbshortwave time to go have fun folks
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13:58 roadran422 Hey Seroster
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14:01 tlockley morning
14:02 Experimentonomen g'day
14:02 tlockley hows your corner of the world Experimentonomen
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14:04 roadran422 Hey t
14:04 roadran422 hey tlockley
14:04 einball okay, everything's done now and I got a backup :P
14:04 tlockley hey roadran422, morning/afternoon/night einball
14:06 einball afternoon here in germany. tnx es hi agn tlockley
14:07 roadran422 It's morning in florida
14:07 roadran422 Nything new?
14:07 tlockley not really, just fighting with comcast to get actually functioning equipment
14:07 Sgt_Lemming oi roadran422, can has link to fan video?
14:07 roadran422 Comcast sucks, I think it got the golden poop award 1-2 years ago
14:07 roadran422 Sgt_Lemming: Sure if it's the particle man thing
14:08 tlockley not surprised
14:08 roadran422 lol
14:08 roadran422 Sgt_Lemming: This? The Geek Group is awesome! on Vimeo
14:08 roadran422 Wait..
14:08 roadran422 Sgt_Lemming: This? http://vimeo.com/35248991
14:08 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group is awesome! on Vimeo
14:08 roadran422 xD
14:08 Sgt_Lemming yes, a link works a lot better than a description :-P
14:08 roadran422 Copied it from my history xD
14:10 tlockley that video is so hilarious
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14:12 RageRiot afternoon :)
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14:20 roadran422 Morning wannabe-zz
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14:22 KB3NZQ FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU-
14:22 Sgt_Lemming ...?
14:22 roadran422 ?
14:22 KB3NZQ 6 inches of snow
14:22 roadran422 xD
14:23 Sgt_Lemming trade you for 35° and 80% humidity KB3NZQ
14:23 KB3NZQ my car is not going any where at all tofay
14:23 KB3NZQ F or C
14:23 Sgt_Lemming 35°c
14:23 KB3NZQ .c 35 c to f
14:23 BotSteve 95 degrees Fahrenheit
14:23 KB3NZQ send me a plane ticket
14:24 KB3NZQ you can look me up on fcc.gov/uls
14:25 KB3NZQ http://wireless.fcc.gov/uls/index.htm?job=home
14:25 BotSteve Title: FCC Universal Licensing System (ULS): ULS Home
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14:26 KB3NZQ .tfw 16046
14:26 BotSteve 21 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Mars, PA!  'Put on some fucking socks.'
14:26 Sgt_Lemming I prefer cold over heat
14:26 Sgt_Lemming easier to get warm than it is to get cool
14:26 Electronics k
14:26 KB3NZQ true
14:27 RageRiot .tfw england
14:27 BotSteve 42 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN England, AR!  'I've seen better days'
14:27 KB3NZQ .tfw 17543
14:27 BotSteve 25 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND SNOWING IN Lititz, PA!  'Keep track of your local old people.'
14:28 KB3NZQ .tfw 17534
14:28 BotSteve 25 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND SNOWING IN Intercourse, PA!  'Where's a Tauntaun when you need one?'
14:28 roadran422 Intercourse?
14:28 KB3NZQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercourse,_Pennsylvania
14:28 BotSteve Title: Intercourse, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
14:28 roadran422 xD
14:28 roadran422 " Intercourse is a popular site for tourists because of its location in "Amish country" and its sexually suggestive nam"
14:28 roadran422 *name
14:29 KB3NZQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Ball,_Pennsylvania
14:29 BotSteve Title: Blue Ball, Pennsylvania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
14:29 roadran422 Blue waffle..
14:30 KB3NZQ outten the light and make shut the door
14:30 roadran422 ..
14:30 MoxieMike close the lights
14:31 KB3NZQ on it means turn off the light and close the door
14:31 KB3NZQ it is PA dutch sayings
14:31 roadran422 Oh...
14:31 KB3NZQ like throw grandma down the stairs her shoes
14:31 roadran422 o_O
14:32 roadran422 The only weird saying I know is from brittain. Do you want me to knock you up?
14:32 KB3NZQ meaning throw grandma's down the stairs
14:33 KB3NZQ Blue Ball and Intercorse PA are right is the heartland of PA Dutch
14:33 roadran422 Why would you throw grandma down the stairs?
14:34 KB3NZQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7ek7SWauEI
14:34 BotSteve Title: Pennsylvania Guys by Sloppy Secondz - Music Video - YouTube
14:34 KB3NZQ it is a parady of CA Girls
14:37 roadran422 Just watching it now xD
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14:40 roadran422 KB3NZQ: WTF xD
14:40 KB3NZQ that was my first reaction too
14:40 roadran422 xD
14:40 KB3NZQ i will be back in a few min need to get something to drink
14:42 KB3NZQ back
14:44 roadran422 Portal 2
14:46 tlockley i gotta get P2 for my computer
14:48 roadran422 ...
14:48 tlockley portal
14:48 roadran422 Ik...
14:50 RageRiot I gotta get portal 2 as well
14:50 * RageRiot is skint
14:54 Sgt_Lemming night all
14:55 roadran422 Night Sgt_Lemminge
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14:55 RageRiot night
14:56 tlockley night lemming
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15:05 mashpriborintorg hiya
15:05 Experimentonomen g'day mashie
15:05 tlockley hy mashpriborintorg
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15:08 Experimentonomen wb einball
15:08 roadran422 ...
15:08 einball tnx
15:09 roadran422 Hey einball, Experimentonomen
15:09 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-XIUWy5abs&amp;feature=fvwrel Experimentonomen <3
15:09 BotSteve Title: Numbernin6 - Garbage - YouTube
15:11 einball Gold Dust \o/
15:13 RageRiot http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82211486/
15:13 BotSteve Title: Dope Zebra is Dope Video
15:14 RageRiot rofl
15:14 * Experimentonomen imagines einball's amplifiers going into clipping quite often :P
15:15 einball nope
15:15 einball the clip comes from the PC :)
15:16 Experimentonomen i mean less than 100 watts on a sub usually asks for pushing the amp into quite brutal clipping
15:16 einball nope
15:16 einball the sub is quite effective
15:16 einball like every Pa sub is
15:16 Experimentonomen do a vid!! :P
15:17 Experimentonomen my sub is PA too, well the driver is, real pa subs are usually ported or horn, i dont think i've ever seen a commercial pa sub with a sealed box
15:20 KB3NZQ http://store.bluecherry.net/products/Video-balun-with-two-inch-extension-cable.--Includes-two-baluns-with-screw-terminals.html
15:20 BotSteve Title: Video balun with two inch extension cable. Includes two baluns with screw terminals - Bluecherry
15:20 KB3NZQ ^ are these the ones the lab uses most? and to thay get free shipping to the lab?
15:21 tlockley yes
15:21 mashpriborintorg tggdeals coupon code I believe + the lab address
15:21 KB3NZQ ok thank you
15:23 RageRiot ok this is jut wrong http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82211762/
15:23 BotSteve Title: You Won't Believe What This Lady's Addicted To! Video
15:24 einball Experimentonomen: If you ship me a camera, I'd do
15:27 tonsofpcs einball: what sort of sub?
15:28 einball kappa 15
15:30 tonsofpcs interesting
15:30 einball no, lame
15:30 tonsofpcs that response curve kinda sucks royally though
15:30 einball there are far better subs
15:30 einball nothing you can't compensate with an equalizer
15:32 tonsofpcs a 20 dB drop between 50Hz and 20Hz? and an additional 5-10 between 100Hz and 50Hz?
15:32 Experimentonomen einball, if u came to visit me, u'd question if i even have the sub connected due to the bass sounding like its just the main stereo speakers alone
15:32 einball hehe
15:33 einball thats a huge difference here
15:33 tonsofpcs you're getting all sorts of phasing shifts there too.
15:36 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
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15:37 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
15:37 * einball salutes
15:38 dbshortwave uh oh
15:38 tonsofpcs my cheap Polk powered sub (PSW10) is within 3dB 35Hz - 120Hz, within 6dB ~28Hz-150Hz
15:38 dbshortwave youre all in trouble now
15:38 tonsofpcs You're.
15:40 tonsofpcs (which is nice because my 'satellite's are already within their 'pretty flat' range around 90Hz)
15:41 einball huh dbshortwave?
15:41 dbshortwave boss is here
15:41 einball tonsofpcs: I combine Hifi speakers with that PA speaker. :P
15:41 tonsofpcs einball: cap'n on da bridge
15:41 * dbshortwave points to the top of the list
15:42 tonsofpcs what list?
15:42 einball Nicklist tonsofpcs
15:42 tonsofpcs BatSteve-Away ?
15:42 wannabe1987 no
15:42 wannabe1987 boden
15:42 wannabe1987 bodens here
15:42 wannabe1987 because his computer logged him in
15:42 tonsofpcs righht, I got that.  I said that.
15:42 einball "here" does not mean "physically here", right? ;)
15:43 einball Meh. Get me out of germany
15:43 tonsofpcs einball: I need to find speakers for the system at work now.  Boss decided that we're buying new and not using the JBL 4312s or the Mackie SRM450v2s that we have
15:43 einball Uh ... tonsofpcs Iam sorry. Iam not that experienced in PA systems :)
15:43 tonsofpcs hang point is 15' up, I have 135W per channel, I need about 120dB SPL (C or A, I'm not really picky... K would be nice) at 1m
15:44 ^Prophet^ good morning everyone!!!!!!!!!!
15:44 wannabe1987 o.O  why so perky?
15:44 tonsofpcs einball: it's not for PA, it's for presentation (paired with the 20' screen)
15:44 tonsofpcs ;)
15:44 ^Prophet^ *falls back asleep* false start...
15:44 einball tonsofpcs: It's the same purpose: Public Adress
15:44 tonsofpcs I mean, it'll be used for PA too, but that's not it's main purpose.
15:45 tonsofpcs einball: no, it's theater.
15:45 einball That's also a kind of public addressing :D
15:45 tonsofpcs it's just a really big room for a HT system :-p
15:46 einball goddamnit, okay it IS a theater system.
15:46 dbshortwave i just like stirin the pot
15:46 dbshortwave so i say yall in trouble now
15:46 tonsofpcs 50' wide, 80' deep (roughly)
15:46 dbshortwave lol
15:47 tonsofpcs screen can be 22' but we shrink it to around 18' (I haven't measured, just guessing) because we don't have a pitched/raked floor and there's head-height issues
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15:48 einball hmm
15:48 einball I have to smile a little bit right now.
15:49 einball I came here expecting many HV and µC freaks. What did I find? Minecraft and soundsystems :)
15:49 tonsofpcs eh, I play with everything from microvolts to megavolts and microwatts to kilowatts...
15:50 tonsofpcs I'm a TV guy at heart though :)
15:50 einball And DC to true AC? :)
15:50 tonsofpcs DC to 13GHz
15:50 einball Right ...
15:50 einball You're my man :)
15:51 tonsofpcs just got it hung thursday, did a digital keystone on friday.  At some point I'll take it out and realign the corner heights so it doesn't need to be digital keystoned (it's got a shiftable lens so it could be square if I had hung it square)
15:51 tonsofpcs tiny volts/watts: dynamic or ribbon mics
15:51 tonsofpcs big volts/watts: tube transmitters
15:51 tonsofpcs 13GHz: the link between one and the other (well, somewhere in the middle :-p)
15:52 einball 13Ghz transmission frequency sounds like ATV :)
15:52 tonsofpcs mind you, the most I do at 13GHz is go "eh, looks like someone stared at it the wrong way, better get the manufacturer to fix their damn AGC *AGAIN*"
15:53 einball *gg*
15:53 tonsofpcs actually... I'm not sure if the 13 or 7 is hooked up currently... *checks*
15:53 wannabe1987 Cprossu: if someone wanted to join the minecraft lab stuff, what would he need, other than minecraft.  he says he has "red bricks" aka the electricity stuff, but idk
15:53 wannabe1987 what he means
15:54 einball wannabe1987: That means redstone
15:54 wannabe1987 yes, that
15:54 wannabe1987 .minecraft
15:54 einball It's a ?metal` that is conductive and allows "electrical" circuits
15:54 BotSteve wannabe1987: Legacy TGG minecraft server: gamerxreviews.net:25565. Server Status: UP
15:54 BotSteve wannabe1987: Cprossu's minecraft server: 72.222.196.252:25565. Server Status: UP
15:56 tonsofpcs looks like the 7GHz is the current one
15:56 tonsofpcs so DC - 8GHz :-p
15:56 einball hehe :)
15:56 einball (Iam a DC guy)
15:56 einball means 1,5Mhz to 30Mhz or 144/145Mhz
15:57 tonsofpcs it's funny talking to guys that deal in 5 - 30 GHz all day.  My 100MHz transmitters are DC to them :-p
15:57 einball true
15:57 tonsofpcs I have some two-ways here (home) that operate just below 30MHz ;)
15:57 wannabe1987 .tfw 49428
15:57 BotSteve 16 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Jenison, MI!  'Even penguins are wearing jackets.'
15:58 wannabe1987 i don't blame the penguins
15:58 einball on 10Ghz and above you need CNC mills to actually cut the waveguides to the right lenght
15:58 einball http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=JM5qv8CL0Sw
15:58 BotSteve Title: Iron Sky On Tour 13.3. - 3.4. - YouTube
15:58 einball the teaser is sooo neat :D
15:59 tonsofpcs on 10GHz and above, you need to stand nearby for a set amount of time to melt the metal to the right length, then thermal shock it :-p
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16:01 tonsofpcs I mean, I do go up to 12GHz with satellite, but that's all handled by a block of metal attached to the dish, I deal with feet and inches and downconvert it to 900MHz-2GHz before I play with it
16:02 einball You listen to satellites?
16:03 wannabe1987 .g courageous imdb
16:03 BotSteve wannabe1987: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1630036/
16:04 tonsofpcs I mean, I suppose the fiber optics run in the 300 THz range....
16:04 tonsofpcs einball: I work at a TV/radio station as an engineer...
16:04 tonsofpcs we get things in by satellite 24/7
16:06 wannabe1987 .c 129minutes to hours
16:06 BotSteve 2.15 hours
16:06 wannabe1987 ho  long moviie
16:06 tonsofpcs 2 hours, 9 minutes.
16:06 Experimentonomen einball: http://i.imgur.com/X8dma.jpg
16:07 tonsofpcs einball: is that the amplifier stack?
16:07 tonsofpcs err, Experimentonomen ^
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16:11 * wannabe1987 needs to get going. hi dehve
16:11 dehve hey!
16:12 tonsofpcs NY/NJ flag delivery estimate: thursday or friday.
16:12 Experimentonomen tonsofpcs, its a stereo amp with lateral mosfets
16:13 Experimentonomen im working on making it a complete poweramp rather than just loose parts on ends of wires
16:14 einball tonsofpcs: oh, k
16:24 tlockley hey wannabe-afk
16:25 * masterofmonks destroys a deer by orbital bombardment.
16:25 tlockley o_O
16:25 ^Prophet^ was that really needed...
16:25 masterofmonks It was offensive to my people.
16:25 tonsofpcs it's the only way to be sure
16:26 ^Prophet^ ...
16:26 ^Prophet^ alright...
16:27 einball I used to be an electronics engineer like you.
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16:28 tonsofpcs .g nuke them from orbit.  it's the only way to be sure
16:28 BotSteve tonsofpcs: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090605/quotes
16:28 einball But then I took an arrow to the knee T_T
16:28 tonsofpcs lol
16:28 * tonsofpcs still needs to buy that
16:29 ^Prophet^ *eats a shoe*
16:30 dbshortwave hows it taste?
16:30 ^Prophet^ not bad...
16:30 dbshortwave awesome ... want some Franks?
16:30 dbshortwave hot sause
16:30 dbshortwave lol
16:30 ^Prophet^ :P
16:30 ^Prophet^ nah
16:36 Cprossu morning everybody, except those it's not morning for.... then %generalization_time_entity_day% , %your_name_here% !
16:37 einball good evening Cprossu
16:37 ^Prophet^ lolol
16:38 Cprossu so what's everyone up to?
16:38 masterofmonks Watching this guy's videos http://www.youtube.com/user/mrpete222/videos?sort=da&amp;view=u
16:38 BotSteve Title: mrpete222's Channel - YouTube
16:39 Cprossu nice bridgeport!
16:39 masterofmonks This guy is good.
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16:45 masterofmonks I love seeing these older people sharing their knowledge.
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16:46 JA12 he's a former machine shop teacher
16:46 masterofmonks JA12: I kinda guessed because of his manner.
16:50 ^Prophet^ *yawns*
16:51 Experimentonomen einball, thats a skyrim reference
16:51 Experimentonomen and those knee jokes are getting old
16:52 Photon939 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826106328&amp;Tpk=N82E16826106328
16:52 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - Sennheiser HD 280 PRO Professional DJ Styled Headphone
16:52 Photon939 anyone have an opinion on those headphones?
16:52 masterofmonks You know every time I see that brand name I think of Blade Runner...
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16:55 injektion I need to learn how to hold a camera steady lol
16:56 wannabe1987 same
16:56 Cprossu Photon939 they are senn's, but I got that email from newegg too today
16:56 Photon939 I'm tempted with the promo code
16:56 Cprossu it seems like a darn good deal
16:56 Cprossu either way it'll be better than nearly any other thing you can get for that price
16:57 Photon939 that
16:57 Cprossu I just wish they had a mic =)
16:57 Photon939 that's kinda my thinking
16:58 injektion It's raining like crazy outside and once again I am paranoid about losing another HD due to the power fluctuations
16:58 Photon939 don't have a UPS?
16:58 injektion No
16:59 injektion Where I used to live had good solid power even during a thunderstorm
16:59 injektion Where we moved to gas is 20 cents more expensive and the power is awful
16:59 wannabe1987 give me some tots!
17:01 injektion I hate Electrical Membership Corporations
17:02 Photon939 20 cents MORE?
17:02 injektion Yes
17:02 Photon939 electricity here is like $0.11
17:02 Photon939 per KWh
17:03 injektion I hate this place. There are too many hicks
17:06 injektion You can go outside any given day and see people riding horses on public roads
17:06 Photon939 lol
17:07 injektion I live in Metro Atlanta and yes this area despite that is full of rednecks that like to shoot guns off while drunk
17:12 Photon939 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1181169/1327150557488.gif
17:14 Seroster Hello peeps
17:14 Seroster 11cents a kwh is pretty normal
17:15 masterofmonks injektion: We fork out about $300 a month for power.
17:15 injektion EMC?
17:15 masterofmonks EMC?
17:15 wannabe1987 hi masterofmonks
17:15 Seroster .g EMC
17:15 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.emc.com/
17:15 masterofmonks Hi wannabe-afk
17:16 Seroster Electromagnetic carving?
17:16 injektion Seroster and masterofmonks Electrical Membership Corporations
17:16 Seroster Entirely Madeup aCro num?
17:16 masterofmonks No.
17:16 masterofmonks Progress Energy.
17:16 injektion Is that the utility for your state or area?
17:17 Seroster masterofmonks, how many kwh/month?
17:17 Photon939 I need to find a high efficiency 808nm cmount diode, about 1-2 watts
17:17 masterofmonks Seroster: A lot.
17:17 Seroster .c a lot to numbers
17:17 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
17:17 injektion If you do not have the state utility like for example Georgia Power and have something else in your area you pay an EMC for your power which buys the electricity from the state utility
17:18 injektion Then marks it up 20-30%
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17:20 masterofmonks Currently we are using abotu 48kwh per day. at $0.1247 per.
17:20 Photon939 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1181169/P1000536.jpg
17:20 injektion My grandmothers house we used to live at had ZERO insulation and we paid under $250 electricity and when we moved to a well insulated house and an EMC for electricity it's gone up to $350 in the summer
17:20 Photon939 the cmount in my 250mW green laser died the other night
17:20 masterofmonks This time last year it was 94kwh a day.
17:21 injektion I keep reminding my dad you made a mistake by moving here
17:23 masterofmonks Then there is realizing that peanut butter is a nonnewtonain fluid...
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17:27 wannabe1987 ....
17:27 wannabe1987 .in 15min cookie dough
17:27 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 17:42Z
17:28 injektion Peanut butter a fluid O_o
17:28 masterofmonks Never thought about it before injektion?
17:30 dehve non-newtonian fluids are awesome. you guys ever see that mythbusters episode where they made a giant vat of it and adam walked across it
17:30 dehve ?
17:30 injektion masterofmonks: No I haven't
17:31 masterofmonks I happened to think about it because I am eating a peanut butter and jelly sandwith with natural peanutbutter sweetened with honey and pepper jelly.
17:31 masterofmonks This is the first time I have ate a peanut butter and jelly sandwich in about..... 15 years.
17:32 dehve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GWhOLorDtw
17:32 BotSteve Title: Mythbusters- Walking on "Water" - YouTube
17:32 masterofmonks dehve: Now to blow your mind, you can walk across a vat of mercury.
17:33 dehve same idea? not that i'd want to haha
17:33 Photon939 steel floats on mercury
17:33 Photon939 it's dense stuff
17:33 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm5D47nG9k4
17:33 BotSteve Title: Cannonball in mercury - YouTube
17:33 Photon939 yuyp
17:34 masterofmonks I have seen so much of the stuff it's crazy.
17:35 dehve that's impressive
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17:36 wannabe1987 there are....sirens coming from the bathroom
17:36 dehve ominous
17:37 masterofmonks Bathroom police?
17:37 injektion Better go take a look
17:37 dehve toxic waste spill? :P
17:37 injektion Toxic gas warning?
17:38 dehve oxygen-depleted environment
17:38 injektion Methane rich atmosphere
17:40 BitViper cory alert ?
17:40 injektion lol
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17:41 wannabe1987 i dont' know...its my 11 year old brother....who knows
17:41 BitViper smoking on the can
17:42 BotSteve wannabe1987: cookie dough
17:42 injektion It's going to be another one of those days where I cannot type correctly
17:44 * Experimentonomen pokes einball
17:45 * wannabe1987 pokes Experimentonomen
17:45 injektion I need to get something for lunch
17:46 * einball slaps Experimentonomen
17:46 wannabe1987 o.O
17:46 einball I do some math (learning etc..
17:47 Experimentonomen i had strict rules back in school, no school relay
17:47 Experimentonomen no school related stuf on weekends
17:48 injektion It's going to be lean pockets + siricha again for lunch
17:56 wannabe1987 yum.  lean pockets are good
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18:11 wannabe1987 hi kate
18:11 Katemonster hi
18:12 wannabe1987 hi killakee!!!!
18:13 roadran422 Back again xD
18:14 roadran422 Hey wannabe1987
18:15 wannabe1987 hi.
18:15 roadran422 ...
18:15 wannabe1987 my hands were full of cookie dough
18:15 wannabe1987 SORRY
18:16 roadran422 Cookies are too good!
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18:16 roadran422 Hi KawaiiJess
18:16 wannabe1987 and jess!  hi :D
18:17 KawaiiJess Hai people
18:22 Experimentonomen btw i was really in luck when i decided to mount the heatsinks over a area of slots in that board, the slots lined up perfectly with the screw holes in the heatsinks :o
18:22 roadran422 What were you doing?
18:24 Experimentonomen roadran422: http://i.imgur.com/X8dma.jpg
18:24 roadran422 What the? What are you doing that needs that much heat dissapation?
18:25 Experimentonomen that board was the top cover off an old receiver and had a few vent slots
18:25 roadran422 Oh..
18:25 Experimentonomen thats a 2x50-100W amp
18:25 roadran422 .... Loud?
18:25 roadran422 xD
18:27 Experimentonomen http://soundcloud.com/experimentonomen/jfetinputlafetoutputamp-demo
18:27 BotSteve Title: Jfetinputlafetoutputamp demo by Experimentonomen on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
18:28 Hackbat wooo! my slide rule came in
18:29 tgg|yNos azop: you around by chance?
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18:44 dbshortwave hey Wannabe1987, how many times you snipe people in zomb?
18:45 wannabe1987 um
18:45 wannabe1987 i shot someone in the chest
18:45 wannabe1987 but i didn't have a gun for sniping
18:45 dbshortwave ah
18:46 ^Prophet^ any here have mw3 for 360 and want to do a Quickscope match?
18:46 wannabe1987 i had a maverick (?) and its for short range shooting.  some guy had a 25lb spring in his gun
18:46 wannabe1987 IT HURT
18:46 dbshortwave i bet
18:47 wannabe1987 he kept shooting me in the stomach or boobs.
18:47 wannabe1987 ....
18:47 wannabe1987 IT HURT
18:47 roadran422 xD
18:47 dbshortwave -.- get the 25lb gun next time and do a nutshot
18:47 roadran422 ...
18:47 dbshortwave he will quit the boob shot
18:47 dehve Eight steps leading up into the lobby!!!
18:48 wannabe1987 its not my gun, so i can't "get it"
18:48 wannabe1987 what about the steps, dehve?
18:48 wannabe1987 you can't run up the steps.  if you do you could get thrown out of the building
18:48 dehve i'm doing the lab in the Source engine and i've been trying for ages to figure out how high the ground is from the main level
18:49 wannabe1987 ahhh
18:49 wannabe1987 dave says he can take a nut shot w/o flinching....too much martial arts or something
18:50 dehve there was a an extremely blurry shot of the steps right at the end of today's captain's blog that i managed to count the number of grip tape lines off of
18:50 azop yNos: Yea
18:51 dbshortwave im trying ti find a mic pin out for a uniden PC78Elite
18:52 dbshortwave im guessing from what ive been told "no sound"
18:52 dbshortwave but alli got was the box
18:52 dbshortwave so i need a mic and a 4 pin mic plug
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18:53 Toastdude Hello
18:55 dbshortwave hi toast
18:56 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
18:57 Toastdude Wannabe! dbshortwave!
18:57 dehve DONKEY
18:58 wannabe1987 donkeh?
18:58 wannabe1987 you shrek now?
18:58 dehve from shrek
18:58 dehve :P
18:59 dehve reminded me of that bit where everyone starts yelling at each other and then Donkey just yells out his name
19:01 wannabe1987 ah
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19:06 roadran422 .seen ^Prophet^
19:06 BotSteve roadran422: I last saw ^Prophet^ 0.34 hours ago at 2012-01-21 18:46:02 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 19:06:18 UTC
19:06 Toastdude I just now realized that I'm listening to music...
19:06 ^Prophet^ im here
19:06 ^Prophet^ :3
19:06 roadran422 So... How bout that wii xD
19:06 roadran422 Toastdude: ?
19:06 ^Prophet^ nope
19:07 roadran422 Almost done with portal 2
19:08 ^Prophet^ nice
19:08 Toastdude Dvorak's 9th symphony, movement 4
19:08 Toastdude What level roadran422?
19:08 roadran422 21
19:08 Toastdude Did you just start it?
19:08 roadran422 No...
19:08 Toastdude Okay
19:08 dehve <3 Portal 2
19:09 roadran422 I finished like 3 levels yesterday
19:09 Toastdude I meant the level
19:09 roadran422 Oh yah xD
19:09 dehve Especially the ending
19:09 roadran422 I'm running for my life..
19:09 Toastdude I haven't finished it..
19:09 dehve dude
19:09 dehve finish it :O
19:09 roadran422 lol
19:09 roadran422 Wrong room? Toxin?
19:09 Toastdude I'm getting an XBox today, so I probably will... But I'll have to start over :P
19:10 dehve oh did you go into that room glados told you to? :P
19:10 roadran422 Idk...
19:10 dehve with the fake outside door?
19:10 roadran422 Shh!
19:10 roadran422 I'm trying my self :P
19:10 dehve :P
19:11 wannabe1987 bicarbonate of soda
19:11 dehve i think you're only about half-done the game
19:11 dehve iirc
19:11 Toastdude Sodium Bicarbonate?
19:11 wannabe1987 baking soda
19:11 wannabe1987 sure
19:11 Toastdude Yes
19:12 injektion When you get bicarb from the pool store you it's a blatant rip off
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19:12 roadran422 xD
19:13 deathowl_ Evening Guys
19:13 Toastdude Hello
19:13 wannabe1987 hi owl
19:13 deathowl_ just signed up to geek squad
19:13 deathowl_ so throught i say hi
19:13 Toastdude Welcome! *group
19:14 Toastdude :P
19:14 Toastdude ...
19:14 roadran422 Doing the escape nwo!
19:14 Toastdude SSHHH!!
19:16 injektion You can get bicarb cheaper from costco than in bulk at the pool store
19:16 JA12 pool store?
19:16 roadran422 Yah
19:17 JA12 don't you buy sodium bisulfate from pool store?
19:17 JA12 not bicarbonate
19:18 injektion http://www.hydropool.com/cgi-bin/hydro/item/Pool-Chemicals/BioGuard-Balance-Pak-100-Total-Alkalinity-Increaser-12-lb/23416.html
19:19 BotSteve Title: Hydropool.com | BioGuard Balance Pak 100 Total Alkalinity Increaser - 12 lb. 23416
19:19 wannabe1987 i was talking baking soda for my cookies
19:22 wannabe1987 anyway
19:22 wannabe1987 shower time!
19:24 wannabe1987 .tfw 49428
19:24 BotSteve 25 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Jenison, MI!  'Why do I live here?'
19:24 wannabe1987 not bad...i was out in a tshirt
19:25 Toastdude ....
19:28 wannabe1987 what? i had to grab a shirt from the car
19:28 dehve that sounds chilly
19:29 wannabe1987 i normally don't go out in more than a tshirt, sweatshirt AND coat
19:30 dbshortwave .tfw 13346
19:30 BotSteve 19 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Hamilton, NY!  'Warmer than Hoth.'
19:30 exor674 .tfw 80228
19:30 BotSteve 55 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Denver, CO!  'Everything's nice butter weather!'
19:30 Seroster HA
19:30 Seroster The best thing with a compressor is how you can mess with the cats
19:31 Seroster "Oooo, that looks like something eadible in that toolbox!" *airblast* "EEEEP"
19:32 JA12 Seroster: how's your thumb?
19:34 dehve .tfw canada
19:34 BotSteve 10 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Montreal, CA!  'Actually, a sharp-stick in the eye might not all be that bad right now.'
19:34 dehve lol
19:34 dehve i like how it chose montreal
19:36 roadran422 .tfw florida
19:36 BotSteve 92 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING HOT IN Florida, AR!  'Still not appropriate to wear a speedo though.'
19:36 roadran422 Where?
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19:42 Cheezmo .tfw kelowna
19:42 BotSteve 23 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Kelowna, CA!  'Why do I live here?'
19:43 Cheezmo and about 4" of snow. TO that I lul
19:44 dehve I just sent 144 pingpong balls to the lab from Amazon. they're apparently on sale right now!
19:44 Monkeh dehve: You'll break Chris.
19:44 dehve it's entirely possible
19:44 dehve i just hope he doesn't try doing the pingpong ball trick on the entire box at once
19:45 dehve that could be disastrous
19:45 astro73|alice oh look. atomic object has opened up internships for the summer
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19:48 dbshortwave the way these things are
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19:48 dehve you know what would be cool, is to string up a bunch of pingpong balls on a wire, and light it at one end
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19:49 roadran422 dehve: The fall!
19:49 dehve hopefully they'd light the next one before that though
19:50 dehve or maybe stick them on something more rigid and vertical and light from the bottom
19:50 dehve or top...
19:55 roadran422 dehve: You finished portal 2 pc?
19:55 dehve yep
19:56 roadran422 Can you help me with the last part? How do I get in to the keep out area
19:56 dehve hmm not sure which area you mean
19:56 roadran422 Last last part..
19:56 dehve oh
19:56 roadran422 CH 8
19:56 dehve umm
19:57 dehve this is the one where you can't put it on the ceiling, right?
19:57 roadran422 Yah...
19:57 dehve i *think* you fling yourself in, but i haven't played it since it came out last april
19:57 roadran422 Lol Let me see
19:58 roadran422 I'm on the oustide...
19:58 Seroster JA12, my thumb is fine thankyou
19:58 Seroster it will take time to heal and because of its location the wound is not closed
19:59 dehve wait, you said chapter 8?
19:59 Seroster So it is open, but not infected(thankgod, er, alcohol)
19:59 roadran422 Yah
19:59 roadran422 The fall
19:59 dehve there's a 9 as well
19:59 roadran422 8...
20:00 dehve http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/991073-portal-2/faqs/62216 might help. it's spoiler-free!
20:00 BotSteve Title: GameFAQs: Portal 2 (PC) Spoiler-Free Walkthrough by alerek
20:00 BotSteve dehve, you'll have got to remember that roadran422 can't count higher than 8.
20:00 roadran422 Ok....
20:00 roadran422 BotSteve: Stop
20:00 roadran422 Seroster!?!??!?
20:00 dehve haha, troll bot
20:00 dehve how did that message get triggered??
20:00 BotSteve Stop what? I didnt do anything.
20:00 Seroster dehve, Its custom made scripting just to fuck with roadran =)
20:00 dehve haha
20:01 dehve oh! The Fall is chapter 6!
20:01 roadran422 ....
20:01 roadran422 It is?
20:01 dehve yeah
20:01 roadran422 Oh then yah xD
20:02 Seroster You missed out on a third of the game dude.
20:02 roadran422 ...
20:02 dehve ok, sorry for sort of spoiling a puzzle in ch 9 then. it's a similar thing to what you're at now, but harder
20:02 roadran422 I'm stuck somewhere... lol
20:02 JA12 Seroster: great. just keep the wound clean
20:02 dehve this is the bit where there's a ring of wall-things that punt you away, right?
20:02 Seroster Thats the plan, JA12
20:03 roadran422 Idk but I am really trapped...
20:03 Seroster I tape my thumb to my index finger while sleeping too, in order to let the wound rest.
20:03 roadran422 Wai
20:03 roadran422 t
20:03 roadran422 Seroster: Good luck with that thumb.
20:03 Seroster Mind you, I am slightly mentally retarded and I don't get irony. It's lost on me.
20:04 roadran422 I need to get pass the condemed area...
20:04 * wannabe1987 has to go to work....:/
20:04 dehve you just finished running from glados, right? have you gotten into the factory?
20:04 wannabe1987 theres wifi there but theres no code for me (yet)
20:04 roadran422 I just know, I am on the outside near some area saying keep out, condemed area.
20:05 dehve past the neurotoxin factory?
20:05 roadran422 Wait... I found something
20:05 Seroster Have fun wiping old people bums, wannabe=)
20:05 roadran422 dehve: I am way past that, the potato got eaten by a bird
20:05 dehve ohh
20:05 dehve ok, so you're in retro aperture science
20:05 wannabe1987 i will.  i'll also give her a shower and feed her :P  and mop, sweep, clean the kitchen, take care of dogs, etc
20:05 roadran422 I guess
20:06 Seroster If she cant wipe her arse maybe she shouldnt have dogs.
20:06 dehve all old and busted
20:06 Seroster I kindly suggest you take them to "the farm where they can run free and be happy"
20:06 roadran422 Yep..
20:06 dehve yes, ass wiping should be one of the prerequisites to owning pets...
20:07 dehve hmm, can you tell me what the last year you saw was?
20:07 Seroster 2011?
20:07 roadran422 Condemed Testing Area
20:07 dehve in the game :P
20:07 roadran422 1961
20:08 dehve You will meet some "Keep out!" signs and a red wall labelled as "condemned testing area" which seems to be a dead end. But it's not. Turn around to see a portalholding wall. place one there. Now face the red wall again and look left and high up. There is another portalholding wall up there. Use it get past the red wall.
20:08 dehve says a spoiler-ridden walkthrough ;)
20:09 roadran422 Thanks! I shot the wall randomly..
20:09 dehve that whole retro aperture science area is full of puzzles like that >_<
20:09 roadran422 lol
20:09 dehve the hardest part being figuring out where you can actually stick portals to progress
20:11 JA12 remember to first wipe your ass before the portals
20:11 injektion_ Portal 1 was more difficult
20:12 roadran422 HAHAHAHAHAHA No.
20:12 dehve i didn't really find either too challenging. portal 2's co-op was hard
20:12 dehve me and a friend were stuck at this one part for ages before we figured out the unconventional solution
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20:14 roadran422 Wow that's efficient, a big ass door, to block a small one.
20:14 dehve hahahaha yeah
20:14 roadran422 xD
20:14 dehve that part was hilarious
20:15 dehve "yeah! big epic blast door! ...with a janitor's closet behind it"
20:15 roadran422 Lol
20:22 roadran422 Taken a break xD
20:27 ^Prophet^ zzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz
20:27 roadran422 lol
20:27 roadran422 Tired?
20:27 ^Prophet^ yeah
20:27 roadran422 :P
20:27 * Thermoelectric just woke up
20:28 roadran422 Morning Thermoelectric
20:28 Thermoelectric Goodmorning/evening roadran422
20:28 roadran422 .t est
20:28 BotSteve Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:28:47 EST
20:28 roadran422 It's afternoon and a bit hungry xD
20:29 Thermoelectric So it is. Go raid the kitchen? :P
20:29 roadran422 Lol
20:29 roadran422 Dad's sleeping... Mehh
20:30 roadran422 Where are you Thermoelectric?
20:30 Thermoelectric Land of Kangaroos.
20:30 roadran422 Aussie
20:30 Thermoelectric Yup
20:30 roadran422 I'm right!
20:30 roadran422 lol
20:30 Thermoelectric :)
20:30 Seroster .c 337/714
20:30 BotSteve 0.471988796
20:31 Seroster .c 237*0.4719
20:31 BotSteve 111.8403
20:31 Seroster Odd.
20:31 roadran422 What's that for Seroster?
20:31 Seroster Elecrical calculations
20:31 Seroster Do you know ohms law, roadran?
20:31 roadran422 Sort of...
20:31 roadran422 Volts = A/W?
20:31 roadran422 Wait.
20:32 roadran422 Amps. Volts. Resistance
20:32 roadran422 Includes all of that ^
20:32 Seroster U=I*R (Volts = Amps*Ohms)
20:32 Thermoelectric I use http://www.the12volt.com/ohm/ohmslawcalculators.asp when I don't feel like doing the math.
20:32 roadran422 Ohms is Resistance
20:32 BotSteve Title: Ohm's Law Calculators
20:32 roadran422 Amps is the umph, volts is the power
20:32 ajprog_laptop angy are you awake?
20:32 Seroster It also works the other way, you can always figure out the third unknown if you know two
20:32 roadran422 I know that
20:32 Seroster volts isnt really the power, the watts are.
20:33 roadran422 What are watts, volts and amps...
20:33 roadran422 Well,
20:33 Seroster Anyway, a heating element says "40w" - i measured the resistance over the heating coil and got 714ohms, then I measured volts in and got 237volts.  That gives me 0.47amps wich would be 100watts.
20:33 roadran422 ...
20:33 RageRiot hi ^Prophet^
20:34 RageRiot ho roadran422
20:34 RageRiot hi*
20:34 roadran422 Excuse me? xD
20:34 roadran422 Hi RageRiot
20:34 mashpriborintorg if it's powered in AC, you need to consider the inductance
20:34 RageRiot lol thats was funny
20:34 roadran422 :P
20:34 roadran422 Seroster: Carbon residue?
20:35 Thermoelectric I get 78.66W using 237V and 714 ohms.
20:35 dehve maybe it means 40W of radiated heat or something?
20:35 Seroster For simple understanding of electricity you imagine a water pipe. Amps is the diameter, volts is the pressure and watts is the water flow. If you want to fill a pool you get a HUGE pipe with very low pressure, for cutting metal you use a tiny diameter pipe with enormous pressure. - if you have higher pressure you can get the same water flow with less pipe diameter (hence hv lines) - and its a whole thing to why and what goes on, bu
20:35 Seroster t in essence, volts is pressure, amps is diameter and watts is flow.
20:35 Seroster dehve, Perhaps... But its a towel dryer
20:36 Seroster It's a purely resistive load, so you can take cos fi and stuff it, mashpriborintorg =P
20:36 roadran422 Well seroster?
20:36 roadran422 Nvm....
20:36 roadran422 xD
20:37 dehve yeah i'd say maybe it's intended to be 40W, but the coil has degraded over time, perhaps
20:37 Seroster If it degraded it should get more reistance, not less.
20:37 dehve hmm true....maybe it's made of silicon?
20:37 dehve :P
20:38 dehve oh
20:38 dehve i think i know
20:38 dehve when you heat metal, the resistance increases
20:38 dehve you measured it cold
20:38 roadran422 Thanks Seroster....
20:39 dehve silicon is the opposite of that, which is why computer stuff blows so easily when it overheats - more heat = less resistance in silicon, so you get a thermal runaway
20:40 Seroster Yes indeed dehve =)
20:40 Seroster When cold it got 714ohms, when it heats up it drops to around 400 =)
20:41 dehve hmm i'm getting 140W from 400 ohms
20:42 dehve it's been ages since i did electrical calculations though...
20:42 dehve wait, the resistance decreases when it heats up? o_O
20:42 dehve that doesn't seem right
20:43 roadran422 88.36?
20:43 Seroster Sorry, it increases, allowing less current to flow through the wolfram fillament
20:44 dehve you should be looking at around 1500 ohms to have 40W output
20:45 ^Prophet^ *goes to sleep*
20:45 Seroster Yes. Double the ohms gives you half the power.
20:45 masterofmonks http://tideals.com/
20:45 BotSteve Title: TI Deals | TI Microsites
20:45 dehve i don't understand how it's 400 ohms hot but 714 cold :S
20:46 roadran422 I'm confused...
20:46 roadran422 Lol
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20:47 Monkeh dehve: Bad connection?
20:48 roadran422 Sand the connections down
20:49 Monkeh roadran422: ..
20:51 Seroster I have lived in this apartment for two years
20:52 Seroster I have never once used that damn thing.
20:52 Seroster if I was overly concerned I'd just hook an ammeter to it and run for half an hour noting peak amps
20:53 roadran422 ...
20:53 roadran422 Monkeh: As in clean the connections
20:53 Monkeh roadran422: You don't do that with sandpaper.
20:54 roadran422 Carbon deposits....
20:54 Monkeh ... Not sandpaper.
20:54 roadran422 Or alchol or flux...
20:54 roadran422 Monkeh: Why not that? What else would you use with embedded carbon deposits?
20:56 Photon939 hard to say about resistance when hot
20:57 Photon939 you'd need to measure it with a clamp meter
20:57 roadran422 He said heating element so I thought of carbon deposits...
20:57 Monkeh roadran422: Something which doesn't rough up the surface and remove coatings?
20:58 roadran422 ....
21:04 Seroster roadran422, no soot whatoever
21:04 roadran422 O ok
21:05 Seroster And there is no reason it should be any since its sealed
21:06 roadran422 Oh... Why isn't carbon a metalloid? In certain conditions (graphite) it is conductive.
21:07 Monkeh Seroster: Sounds like there's a short in the element somewhere?
21:07 Monkeh Well, fault
21:07 Seroster might be
21:07 roadran422 If fault means broken electrical connection... How can it still measure from one point to the other?
21:07 roadran422 Or it was just mislabelled...
21:07 Monkeh Seroster: Damage would explain the resistance dropping when hot
21:07 roadran422 Read the patent or specs or something?
21:08 Seroster roadran422, in certain conditions hydrogen is conductive
21:08 roadran422 .... Isn't a metalloid having some metallic props and sometimes not?
21:08 astro73|alice roadran422: i think so?
21:09 roadran422 Resistance drops when cold... www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmdPB3AwRWo
21:09 roadran422 Then why is carbon not a metalloid?
21:09 dehve i've STILL got that freaking particle man song stuck in my head
21:09 Monkeh roadran422: ... You're not listening.
21:09 roadran422 xD ^
21:09 roadran422 ^to dehve
21:09 roadran422 ........
21:10 Monkeh I'll explain in a minute..
21:10 roadran422 Ok xD
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21:14 ajcc hi guys
21:14 roadran422 Hi ajcc
21:14 ajcc hej roadran422, how are you doing today?
21:14 roadran422 Good.... You?
21:16 ajcc fine, it's been raining all day so my brother and I have been watching Drive-ins, Diners and Dives (tv-show), and made some pizza and burgers :)
21:16 roadran422 PIZZA! I love pizza.... And most thigns with tomato sauce..
21:18 dehve is it weird that i love tomato sauce but hate tomatoes?
21:18 roadran422 ....
21:18 roadran422 That's contradicting
21:18 dehve indeed.
21:18 roadran422 :P
21:18 ajcc raw tomates?
21:19 roadran422 Well, if it was raw tomatoes. EWh
21:19 roadran422 Hm...
21:19 Experimentonomen *yawn*
21:19 roadran422 I am thinking about it, I don't really like raw tomatoes...
21:19 ajcc they have quite a nasty acidity that sticks in your throat, imo
21:20 dehve like sliced tomatoes
21:20 dehve on pizza, on subs, blech
21:20 roadran422 Ewhhh But I like cherry tomatoes..
21:20 roadran422 And cooked ones
21:21 dehve plus when you've got a sliced tomato on a burger, it inevitable pulls everything out the first time you bite into it
21:21 roadran422 ...
21:21 roadran422 I'm not going to start a tomato argument... Too many things xD
21:21 ajcc after a day of different food in or on bread, I'd really like to eat some rataouille or soup :)
21:21 Monkeh roadran422: Okay, so you have a damaged cable or element. Two conductors are making a (poor) contact which they shouldn't.
21:22 roadran422 Yes
21:22 Monkeh roadran422: You apply voltage, current flows, metal heats...
21:22 Monkeh roadran422: Metal expands. Contact improves. Resistance reduces.
21:22 roadran422 Ok
21:22 dehve my hotdogs are making a high-pitched squealing noise as they cook. it's a bit disturbing...
21:22 roadran422 ....
21:22 ajcc dehve: poke 'em!
21:22 Monkeh roadran422: Hence it going from 714ohm to 400ohm.
21:22 ajcc or they'll explode
21:23 roadran422 Monkeh: OH!
21:23 roadran422 I need to take an electrical engineering class.
21:23 Monkeh roadran422: Damaged section of element creating a high-resistance fault which becomes low resistance as the element expands, effectively shorting the element and reducing its length (and thus resistance)
21:24 dehve electrical engineering is HARD >_<
21:24 roadran422 o_O
21:24 dehve especially AC
21:24 Monkeh dehve: And yet the scarily easy bits are what people screw up.
21:24 ajcc especially RF
21:24 dehve yes haha
21:24 roadran422 Monkeh: XD
21:24 dehve i didn't get into RF >_>
21:24 dehve but having to do ohm's law with vectors is only the beginning of the fun math
21:25 ajcc :)
21:29 ajcc http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1139319/ this movie was really good, if you like black humor, which you should!
21:29 BotSteve Title: IMDb - A Film with Me in It (2008)
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21:50 Seroster "I went and shot the maximum the game laws would allow, two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow."  < Voice to whoever gets where the quote comes from.
21:52 ajcc The Hunting Song?
21:53 ajcc Seroster: Tom Lehrer - The Hunting Song
21:54 Seroster Aye.
21:54 Seroster Did you know or google?
21:54 ajcc I did Google.
21:54 Seroster Pussy.
21:55 ajcc There's been about 0% activity the last half hour so... but yes, something along those lines.
21:59 tehdark45 woo for 0%
21:59 ajcc :)
21:59 tehdark45 lol
22:00 ajcc 0% food in fridge, 0% clean pairs of socks, etc, the universal measure
22:00 ajcc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx_G-0is9Sw :)
22:00 BotSteve Title: Flea Market Madness Vol. 2 - YouTube
22:01 ajcc can't help to think that Pat looks a bit like a young Gary Numan
22:02 ajcc :/, well, it was fun while it lasted
22:03 tehdark45 lol
22:03 Seroster Lol
22:03 ajcc :O
22:03 ajcc oh my
22:03 Seroster Please dont make me regret that. xD
22:03 ajcc I'm to afraid of Chris to do anything bad in #thegeekgroup
22:03 Seroster Oh the irony
22:04 ajcc :)
22:04 Seroster 1, chris is never here. 2, Chris doesnt care what goes on in here as long as parents dont complain, and 3, he is the arch power abuser.
22:04 tehdark45 lol
22:05 ajcc :)
22:05 Seroster Anyway, wound update, its permanently closed quite a way in there.
22:06 Seroster It went from 3mm deep to 1.5mm deep
22:06 ajcc progress!
22:06 roadran422 WHY!
22:06 roadran422 No fair :(
22:07 roadran422 Mod LO
22:07 Seroster What?
22:07 Seroster Ohwell then.
22:07 roadran422 :P
22:07 tehdark45 roadran422, i dont think they want kids as ops :P
22:07 tehdark45 see
22:07 tehdark45 lol
22:07 Seroster tehdark45, Thermoelectric has been an op (and founder) since he was 12.
22:08 roadran422 :P
22:08 tehdark45 Oh ok
22:08 roadran422 I was just about to kick you... I didn't know how though xD
22:08 ajcc that's what she said?
22:08 roadran422 :(
22:08 Seroster The geek group is built around maturity, not around age.
22:08 roadran422 True ^
22:08 tehdark45 yeah
22:08 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InN9d7rodyU
22:08 BotSteve Title: Parents Perception of The Geek Group - YouTube
22:08 Seroster "Its not when you are 15 you can do this at 18 you can do that"
22:09 roadran422 ...
22:09 tehdark45 Seroster, did you have that line im memory or something?
22:09 tehdark45 :P
22:10 roadran422 AH! Dam
22:10 Seroster That is not an exact quote, but yes, I do have it in memory since I think it's important.
22:10 roadran422 After install of xp, usb mouse doesn't work.
22:10 Seroster Reboot
22:11 roadran422 *Wirless mouse
22:11 ajcc roadran422: XP will reinstall the driver if you put it into another USB port (not hub-port)
22:11 Seroster Reboot
22:11 roadran422 Ok lol
22:11 roadran422 lets see
22:11 Seroster When computers give you a hard time - reboot. Works sometimes.
22:11 Monkeh ajcc: All USB ports are on a hub.
22:11 astro73|alice far more often than it should
22:12 Seroster I prefer rebooting and then solve any problems over poking around for 16 hours to have it solved after a reboot
22:12 roadran422 It worked....
22:12 roadran422 Seroster: XD
22:12 roadran422 That must of sucked...
22:12 Seroster That is somewhat of a hyperbolic statement
22:12 roadran422 Working on a computer with my uncle for 4 hours, it was fixed. Then I shorted the computer out.
22:12 roadran422 He kept his cool.
22:13 ajcc hehe
22:13 tehdark45 roadran422, fail :P
22:13 roadran422 No wifi dongle, so a usb bridge
22:13 roadran422 tehdark45: xD I didn't know what I did, but it was a short after the computer just shut off.
22:13 dehve so the lobby ceiling at the lab... 10 feet? high?
22:13 roadran422 He also knew more than me since he was a UL inspector
22:13 ajcc UL?
22:13 dehve where did that extra ? come from...
22:13 Seroster 3meters? Yeah probably
22:14 roadran422 Underwriters Laberatories
22:14 roadran422 A tester of many thinsg...
22:14 Seroster The drop ceiling was probably 2.5-2.8
22:14 Seroster *meters
22:14 dehve what about to the metal?
22:14 roadran422 Sucks when you don't have ethernet cable to do a brige.
22:14 tehdark45 yeah
22:14 dehve not sure how far the drop ceiling dropped, but it's not there anymore
22:14 Seroster .g average height of drop ceiling
22:14 BotSteve Seroster: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/basements/msg0912523025239.html
22:14 Seroster Then add a foot
22:15 dehve wait, the drop ceiling was 10' high? tall place haha
22:15 dehve 9'
22:15 dehve is 3m
22:15 dehve hmm, so i guess 10' is about right then
22:15 Seroster Indeed
22:15 Monkeh dehve: No, 3m is closer to 10' than 9'.
22:15 Seroster Less than three meters is kinda crowded.
22:16 Seroster .c 9' to m
22:16 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
22:16 Seroster .c 9feet to meters
22:16 BotSteve 2.7432 meters
22:16 roadran422 ajcc: You don't know what UL is?
22:16 ajcc roadran422: nope
22:16 Seroster .c 10feet to meters
22:16 BotSteve 3.04800 meters
22:16 dehve hmm
22:16 roadran422 Seroster! Isn't 9' supposed to be inches? xD
22:16 roadran422 ajcc: Where do you live?
22:16 Seroster No, inches is ''
22:16 Seroster feet is
22:16 Seroster '
22:16 roadran422 Oh yah! Ok xD
22:16 dehve or "
22:16 dehve for inches
22:16 ajcc roadran422: in IKEA land
22:16 ajcc :)
22:16 roadran422 Where? xD
22:16 ajcc Sweden
22:16 Seroster Personally I try to steer clear of inches.
22:17 roadran422 2.5 cm in 1 inch?
22:17 Seroster More or less.
22:17 tehdark45 look at his whois, he is in sweden :P
22:17 dehve only reason i'm using feet/inches is because the source SDK isn't metric :/
22:17 Seroster 2.54
22:17 Seroster .c 1in to cm
22:17 BotSteve 2.54 centimeters
22:17 roadran422 Close! xd
22:17 Seroster Yeah, I was kinda  close
22:17 Monkeh dehve: .... Seriously?
22:17 Monkeh dehve: ... WTF Valve. That's just stupid..
22:17 Seroster The reason I don't use imperial is that it's retarde.
22:17 roadran422 Oh ok ajcc
22:18 dehve yeah lol. only scale options are "engine units", inches, and feet/inches
22:18 roadran422 UL is something you really want to see on all electrical items.
22:18 Seroster Eh
22:18 Seroster Engine units like CC? =)
22:18 dehve no haha
22:18 ajcc What you want to see is S, Fi and N :)
22:18 astro73|alice dehve: file a complaint with valve?
22:18 Monkeh dehve: How many inches is an engine unit?
22:19 dehve umm
22:19 dehve lemme check
22:19 Seroster UL?
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22:19 dehve 1 engine unit is 1"
22:19 roadran422 Seroster: You don't know what that is!?!??!
22:19 ajcc do we use UL in EU-land?
22:19 Monkeh dehve: ....
22:19 ajcc http://www.ul.com
22:19 BotSteve Title: Redirecting page to Browser Language detected URL
22:19 Monkeh dehve: Kill them with fire.
22:19 Seroster I hate when people use nautorical miles or knots. Screw that. Use millimeters, centimeters, meters or kilometers.
22:19 roadran422 ...
22:20 Monkeh Seroster: Unfortunately for you, nautical miles and thus knots actually have a purpose.
22:20 Seroster roadran422, Hey, I'm not the guy who don't know what IKEA is.
22:20 dehve the stupid thing is, i'm using a metric ruler to measure these floor plans
22:20 roadran422 WOw....
22:20 Seroster No. They fucking dont.
22:20 Monkeh Seroster: And, seeing as a nautical mile is exactly 1852m, it's not too hard to cope.
22:21 dehve i discovered that 1mm on the printed version is 1.429' IRL and so 1.429' (give or take) in Source
22:21 astro73|alice does https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Dimensions help any?
22:21 BotSteve Title: Dimensions - Valve Developer Community
22:21 Monkeh Seroster: And why not?
22:21 Seroster Who doesnt use a gps on a boat nowdays? Making it display distances in KM instead of NM is a two minute reprogramming
22:21 Monkeh Seroster: Yes, and you can do that if you want.
22:21 Monkeh Seroster: Now, navigate by chart.
22:22 Seroster Oooo look, a chart that got 1km by 1km squares on it! Simple!
22:22 dehve i couldn't be bothered converting decimal feet into fractional feet/inches every time i do a measurement though, so things are only accurate to about ~6"
22:22 tehdark45 Seroster love his SI :P
22:22 Seroster I'm all for making a 10 hour day.
22:22 dehve yep i've seen that Dimensions page
22:22 Monkeh Seroster: You've never done nautical or aeronautical navigation have you?
22:23 dehve metric time would be amazing. and confusing. but amazing
22:23 Seroster 100seconds in a minte, 100 minutes in an hour and 100 hours in a day. Then you adjust how long a second is to make it fit.
22:23 tehdark45 that is a long ass day
22:23 tehdark45 :P
22:23 tehdark45 .c 100/24
22:23 BotSteve 4.16666667
22:23 Seroster Yes, 10 hours would maybe be a bit more convenient, since saying it's 87 past 73 is a bit obnoxious, but worth it for the sake of consistency
22:24 Seroster .c 24/100
22:24 BotSteve 0.24
22:24 dehve but yeah, it's way easier to measure this paper in millimeters and punch it into the calculator to come up with decimal feet and just work with that number
22:24 Seroster So one hour would be... eh. like, 15mins.
22:24 astro73|alice dehve: also http://www.moddb.com/engines/source/downloads/hammer-units-conversion-tool
22:24 BotSteve Title: Hammer Units Conversion Tool download - Source Game Engine - Mod DB
22:24 ajcc km isn't a SI measurement
22:24 ajcc but 10^3 m is
22:24 Seroster fuck you ajcc, it is.
22:24 tehdark45 it is a meter, so it is SI
22:25 Seroster For ALL intents and purposes except for being a smartass, it is. =P
22:25 dehve oh nice, that would actually be helpful. i've been using a random chunk of world brush to measure distances out. just drag it around and resize it everywhere
22:25 Seroster And you know what? 1+1 ISNT 1.9999999999999999999999999999999.
22:25 astro73|alice Seroster: actually, i hear 1.999... == 2. I have no idea why.
22:25 ajcc actually, it is.
22:25 Monkeh Seroster: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Mercator_projection_SW.jpg
22:25 Monkeh Seroster: Kilometer that.
22:26 Seroster People do calculations about how you fuck with numbers until they are not what they are supposed to be.
22:26 tehdark45 monkeh, over 9000 ;)
22:26 astro73|alice there's a good reason for it to be that way, but i don't know what it is
22:26 Seroster Make it simple. One apple in your right hand, one apple in your left hand, shove them both up your ass, how many apples are now in your anus, provided you don't have a previous fruit fetish?
22:26 dehve i suppose it depends on whether you're dealing only with integers, or with floating point numbers
22:27 Seroster TWO fucking apples. Now go shit them out and put some lotion on your butt, it looks sore.
22:27 ajcc Seroster: two piles of flour, shove the together, a single pile of flour. your logic is broken.
22:27 tehdark45 The Swedes do some wird shit O_o
22:27 tehdark45 :P
22:28 tehdark45 weird*
22:28 Seroster monkeh I got it metricated for you:   http://www.girardin.org/fabien/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/world_economy_grid-1.jpg
22:28 Seroster Questions?
22:28 astro73|alice Seroster: i think the simplest answer is that reals don't have infitesimals, so they must be the same. (see also: hyperreals)
22:28 Monkeh Seroster: Yes, how do you make a flat, square image out of that and still make reasonable sense?
22:28 ajcc Seroster: did you just confuse ameirca with africa?
22:28 Seroster How do you make a flat square image out of a sphere?
22:28 Monkeh Seroster: Riiiight, you use a Mercator projection and minutes of arc..
22:29 Seroster You don't make a flat square out of a sphere.
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22:29 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
22:29 Seroster And you don't make perfect triangles from a circle. It's basic geometry.
22:29 ajcc Seroster: http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~kohler/z/icsilogo/isf-n9.png
22:30 Seroster Luckily, there is this new invention that works around that problem....
22:30 Seroster .g globe
22:30 BotSteve Seroster: http://globe.gov/
22:30 Monkeh Seroster: You can't navigate on a globe.
22:30 Seroster I know you are american and you are lagging behind, but you might feel ready for this technological advancement.
22:30 Monkeh Seroster: Actually, no, I'm not american.
22:30 tehdark45 You guys have taken it to a whole new level. SI vs Imperial now with knots and NM
22:30 ajcc Sweden is still huge on that map Seroster
22:30 Seroster I can navigate just as well with a globe as I can with a flat square =)
22:30 tehdark45 :P
22:31 Monkeh Seroster: Sure, and you're a trained nautical navigator now?
22:31 Seroster There is NO reason whatsoever not sticking to metric.
22:31 Seroster monkeh, no, that's the joke =)
22:31 Monkeh Seroster: And a nautical mile IS metric.
22:31 Seroster Psh.
22:31 roadran422 Yes there is.
22:31 Seroster I WANT A THOUSAND DEGREES IN A CIRCLE!
22:31 roadran422 ....
22:31 Monkeh Seroster: It's just not a multiple of 1000.
22:31 Seroster Then an inch is metric, it's just a multiple of 2.54
22:32 ajcc Wikipedia says a Nautical mile is not an SI unit
22:32 Monkeh Seroster: I buy pipe in 3m lengths, should that not be allowed because it's more than 1m and less than 1000m?
22:32 roadran422 I have to agree, metric is based 10
22:32 astro73|alice PI IS OPPRESIVE AND HOLDING BACK MATHEMATICS!
22:32 tehdark45 yes
22:32 tehdark45 Make it a muliple!
22:32 tehdark45 lol
22:33 ajcc astro73|alice: what?, are you going to blame e, and the square root of 2 as well while you're at it?
22:33 astro73|alice ajcc: no. There's actually a lot of literature on why pi is wrong (not incorrect). See also: tau
22:33 Seroster astro73|alice, If there is some way I can make PI equal 2 I'm doing it.
22:34 * ajcc likes radians
22:34 Seroster .yt vihart pi is wrong
22:34 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG7vhMMXagQ
22:35 Seroster Not only does she have the hottest voice ever and talks really fast, but she also makes horrible puns about pie.
22:36 Seroster Mathematics should be as elegant and beuatiful as possible.
22:37 astro73|alice Seroster: no kidding.
22:37 astro73|alice she makes some of the best videos on youtube
22:38 Seroster Loved her fibonacci videos
22:39 astro73|alice who knew botany and mathematics were related?
22:39 ajcc I'm really confused
22:39 astro73|alice ajcc: look up Vi Hart. And watch all her videos.
22:39 ajcc I'm reading the Pi is wrong article
22:39 Seroster HAHAHA
22:39 ajcc http://www.math.utah.edu/~palais/pi.html
22:39 BotSteve Title: Pi Is Wrong!
22:40 Seroster ajcc, That is what Vi does to you
22:40 Seroster ajcc, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx5D09s5X6U&amp;feature=relmfu  part of the potential of things is how they break.
22:40 BotSteve Title: How To Snakes - YouTube
22:41 astro73|alice snakesnakesnakesnakesnake
22:41 roadran422 YES PDATETHER!
22:41 roadran422 I tethered my android phone to my computer....
22:41 ajcc first you start to discuss mathematical errors, and now you're numerology bullshitting me?
22:41 roadran422 ....
22:42 astro73|alice ajcc: context?
22:42 Seroster ONE PLUS ONE IS TWO
22:43 astro73|alice Seroster: who said otherwise?
22:43 roadran422 lol
22:43 Seroster Whoever says anything else please contemplate if the shotgun I am holding to your temple got 1.999999999999 barrels or 2.
22:43 roadran422 xD
22:43 astro73|alice 2, obviously. counting is in the realm of integers.
22:43 roadran422 Who knows...
22:43 ajcc if you don't get why 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999 is actually 1, then you're missing a BIG point
22:44 roadran422 Physics, Mathematics
22:44 ajcc which is not at all what you think it might be
22:44 roadran422 ajcc: Rounding?
22:44 ajcc not rounding
22:44 Seroster Yes. rounding.
22:44 roadran422 ....
22:44 roadran422 ?
22:44 ajcc no, imagine this
22:44 astro73|alice roadran422: no. It's actually two ways of expressing the same quantity
22:44 Seroster Caring about 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 is retarded. Just forget it and pretend it doesnt exist.
22:44 roadran422 0.999999999999999999999999999999999999 ~ 1?
22:45 roadran422 Seroster: Watch that number be some kind of redicolous tolerance.
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22:45 ajcc TOLORANCE!
22:45 astro73|alice tolerance has nothing to do with mathematics
22:45 roadran422 ...
22:45 ajcc ...
22:45 Seroster Oh yes it does
22:46 roadran422 He said that number shouldn't exist?
22:46 roadran422 I say it is important somehow....
22:46 astro73|alice engineering and physics? sure
22:46 Seroster When I am summing up what is in my shopping cart I got a tolerance of about five percent.
22:46 roadran422 ...
22:46 astro73|alice Seroster: that's real world, not math
22:47 Seroster if math is not applicable in the real world shove it up your ass and go fap to serpinskys triangle.
22:47 dehve the thing is, a very small number can end up creating a very large error over many iterations
22:47 astro73|alice you only get errors and tolerances when doing messurements and numerical simulations
22:47 astro73|alice pure math has none
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22:47 roadran422 What is pure math then?
22:47 dehve you can't do complex circuitry calculations with only two decimal points because by the time you get to the end, your values are WAY off
22:47 ajcc what is this pure math you talk about?
22:47 astro73|alice and 0.99999... == 1 from a purely theoretical level
22:47 Seroster No.
22:47 roadran422 No....
22:47 roadran422 .99999~ `
22:48 roadran422 .9999999 ~ 1
22:48 astro73|alice yes.
22:48 dehve if you have 99999 apples, and 100000 oranges, are they equal?
22:49 astro73|alice dehve: that's different
22:49 ajcc stop it, it has nothing to do with elementary math
22:49 roadran422 From?
22:49 astro73|alice ok.
22:49 roadran422 ...
22:49 astro73|alice 1 - 0.9999999.... is a value of 0.00000...0001
22:49 roadran422 Yes, it's still not exactly one.
22:49 astro73|alice or infinitesimal
22:49 roadran422 It's still not exactly one.
22:50 astro73|alice that value doesn't exist in reals
22:50 dehve it's the same, we're just talking about fractions of a number. 0.99999 is different from 1 from a computer's point of view if that computer can handle five-decimal-place floating point numbers
22:50 ajcc my final word of the day about the universe and everything is: you can do Math with irrational numbers
22:50 Seroster Ah, the value doesn't exist? Then fuck it, 1 is one. questions?
22:50 roadran422 ...
22:50 astro73|alice under the real numbers, 1 == 0.99999....
22:50 astro73|alice if you don't like it, learn how to do math in hyperreals
22:50 Seroster Yeah, you can do math with anything. dolphin times elephant equals tree.
22:50 roadran422 ...
22:51 roadran422 I'm doing geometry now...
22:51 roadran422 So... DERP...
22:51 Seroster But that line of gibberish is about as sensible as 0.99999999=1
22:51 roadran422 xD
22:51 astro73|alice find a reason you like, then. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/0.999 has several
22:51 BotSteve Title: 0.999... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:51 dehve how about when you talk about substances mixing. fluid A is present in fluid B at 10 ppm. that's a very small number
22:52 dehve but still present in that million
22:52 dehve you can't say it's not there just because it's small
22:52 ajcc dehve: it has to do with the next decimal always being 9
22:53 ajcc apparantly
22:53 dehve if it's repeating, then you would have a point
22:53 * ajcc was wrong
22:53 Seroster Yes I know the 1/9  9*1/9. Screw that. Round up to 1.
22:53 roadran422 Ok.
22:53 roadran422 1 ~ .9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999
22:53 dehve 0.99999 repeating is equal to 1 for all intents and purposes. but 0 followed by five 9's is not a repeating number
22:53 roadran422 1 = 1
22:53 dehve unless denoted as such
22:53 roadran422 000000000000000000000001 = 1
22:53 astro73|alice dehve: but those are finite values. They have a value. 0.00000001 != 0.00000000000000....00000000000000001
22:54 ajcc roadran422: don't abuse ~
22:54 roadran422 It means approx
22:54 dehve that's what i'm trying to say :P
22:54 dehve a finite repeating value of 9 as a fraction of 1 is not equal to 1
22:54 roadran422 I can't start a math battle.... I like it.... But have no knowledge close to the realm of it....
22:55 dehve an infinite repeating value of 9 would be equal to 1
22:55 roadran422 So 99999999 is equal to 1?
22:55 astro73|alice dehve: yes. that's what i've been trying to explain
22:55 astro73|alice roadran422: no, but 0.9999....9999..... == 1
22:55 roadran422 I'd say approc
22:55 roadran422 *approx
22:56 dehve no, 0.99999999 = 0.99999999. but 0.99999999 repeating = 1
22:56 astro73|alice roadran422: 0.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 ~= 1
22:56 roadran422 No.
22:56 roadran422 well dehve No.
22:56 Seroster -.- One is one.
22:56 astro73|alice as long as it has finite digits, it is only approximate
22:56 roadran422 0.99999999 repeating = 1 NO, reflexive property. 0.99999999 = 0.99999999
22:56 dehve exactly
22:57 roadran422 It's not one.
22:57 dehve finite digits of 9 can not be 1. approximately 1, but never equals
22:57 Seroster 0.999... = 0.999... 1=1. Math is supposed to be simple and useful. Calling X Y you are raping math.
22:57 roadran422 brb
22:57 roadran422 cookin rice
22:58 ajcc why is the first number 1?, is 1 a real number?, why can't I divide 1 by 0?
22:58 astro73|alice ajcc: mu, yes, it's undefined in the real numbers.
22:59 astro73|alice Seroster: if you ever get a value of 0.999999.... you're not doing simple math
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22:59 BotSteve ****Attention on deck!  Captain on the bridge!****
22:59 Seroster When a number is not real it got no purpose and you can burn the paper you wrote it on.
23:00 astro73|alice (or your computer is doing a naive algorithm to print floating point)
23:00 ajcc astro73|alice: what? it's even defined as a rational number 1/1.
23:00 Seroster 1/1=1
23:00 astro73|alice ajcc: which part?
23:01 ajcc astro73|alice: of the real numbers? 1, it's a whole step from 0 and two from -1
23:01 roadran422|afk back
23:01 astro73|alice ajcc: 1 is a member of the real numbers
23:02 ajcc oh, so you said that I can't divide it by zero because it's undefined in the real numbers?
23:02 astro73|alice the result is, yes
23:02 dehve well you could divide by 0, but it would be infinity
23:02 ajcc infinity is in the real numbers right?
23:02 astro73|alice ajcc: nope.
23:03 astro73|alice and manipulating it in a logically sound manner isn't exactly in your normal math class
23:03 ajcc why is it not logically sound to divide by zero?
23:03 ajcc I don't want to share anything with anyone, I should be allowed to do so
23:03 roadran422 What number times zero is equal to anything but zero
23:03 astro73|alice ajcc: it is logically sound. but when you allow infinity to be a quantity, you have to define rules for it
23:04 roadran422 Isn't any number times zero zero?
23:04 astro73|alice is 1/0 < 2/0?
23:04 dehve yes
23:04 astro73|alice but they're both "infinity"
23:04 dehve (yes to roadran422)
23:04 roadran422 What is the definition of infinity?
23:04 astro73|alice .w infinity
23:05 BotSteve "Infinity (symbol: ∞) is a concept in many fields, most predominantly mathematics and physics, that refers to a quantity without bound or end." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinity
23:05 dehve an undefinied "highest number possible", i think? could be wrong.
23:05 dehve undefined*
23:05 roadran422 Then infinity times zero = zero
23:05 ajcc 1/0 isn't infinity
23:05 astro73|alice ajcc: what is it?
23:05 roadran422 Undefined
23:05 ajcc 1*infinity per one definition
23:05 ajcc it gets insane
23:06 astro73|alice ajcc: ah. Yes, i knew that
23:06 roadran422 Then what's infinty ^ infinty?
23:06 dehve 2*infinity is still infinity
23:06 dehve infinity ^ infinity is also infinity
23:06 astro73|alice roadran422: what brand of infinity?
23:06 ajcc it depends on what infinity is, and what the rules for your definition is... but balls to that.
23:06 roadran422 A never ending number
23:07 astro73|alice if we are going to have a discussion on the mathematics of infinity, we need to agree on a definition and system
23:07 ajcc space is infinitive, and it's not a never endingly large number
23:07 roadran422 Set the rules....
23:07 astro73|alice ajcc: we don't actually know that? but close enough
23:08 dehve ajcc: we don't know that. i would say you're right, but there's not really a way we can no for sure at this point
23:08 dehve know*
23:08 ajcc oh man, why did I ever try to mess with peoples head on #thegeekgroup... bad idea... bad idea
23:08 roadran422 xD
23:08 dehve if space is infinity, how is it expanding? :P
23:09 roadran422 It's infinity, it never ends?
23:09 astro73|alice dehve: space is infinite, but all observations show objects are growing more distant at an accelerating rate
23:09 dehve but we can actually observe distant objects moving away from us
23:09 ajcc and distant objects moving away from each other
23:10 roadran422 ...
23:10 ajcc which is very important, for the general relativity
23:10 dehve exactly, so space isn't really the thing expanding. the objects within it are just moving away from an arbitrary center point
23:10 roadran422 ...
23:10 ajcc it's not arbitrary since it's the birthplace of the whole universe and everything
23:11 astro73|alice theoretically
23:11 roadran422 I'm done.... I'm lost...
23:11 Seroster http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBcq5ARqJM&amp;feature=related
23:11 BotSteve Title: Blowing Up Math with Vi Hart - YouTube
23:11 * astro73|alice high fives ajcc and dehve
23:11 roadran422 :P
23:11 ajcc :O
23:12 ajcc http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0138704/ <-
23:12 BotSteve Title: Pi (1998) - IMDb
23:12 dehve true, not exactly arbitrary
23:13 astro73|alice no, it's not
23:13 dehve but the big bang's singularity before it exploded was arbitrary as far as we know
23:13 roadran422 ....
23:13 dehve it was just...there
23:13 roadran422 I have alot ahead of me.
23:13 dehve at a point in space seemingly at random
23:13 roadran422 Lots to learn
23:13 astro73|alice and i'd be willing to put it next to the theory of evolution, which is a step down from the theory of gravitation
23:14 astro73|alice roadran422: yes you do
23:14 roadran422 Who believes in a god?
23:14 ajcc anyone got the link to the recording of the echo of big bang?
23:14 dehve roadran422: get stephen hawking's "A Brief History of Time"
23:14 roadran422 I don't read...
23:14 dehve lol
23:15 dehve reading is the best way to learn all this fancy science stuff though :P
23:15 ajcc you don't read?, how do you use irc?
23:15 roadran422 Suggest me a physics/mathematics book 250+ for a reading project
23:15 roadran422 ajcc: BOOKS :P
23:15 dehve i just did :P
23:15 dehve it's a physics book for people who don't understand physics
23:15 roadran422 .... hmm.... Common?
23:15 roadran422 I need it to be in my library
23:15 ajcc I'm reading George Orwell's first novell currently, I have to read more of this books
23:15 dehve http://www.amazon.com/Brief-History-Time-Stephen-Hawking/dp/0553380168/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;qid=1327187748&amp;sr=8-1
23:15 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: A Brief History of Time (9780553380163): Stephen Hawking: Books
23:16 roadran422 one sec
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23:17 roadran422 I'm checking my schools library
23:17 dehve i would hope they have it
23:17 roadran422 Yep!
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23:17 roadran422 Wait.
23:17 roadran422 Stephen Hawking : breaking the boundaries of time and space
23:18 roadran422 Stephen Hawking's universe : the cosmos explained
23:18 roadran422 ...
23:18 ^Prophet^ *dies of boredom*
23:18 dehve i haven't read his other books, but i'd guess he's written them all for someone who doesn't know much about the topic at hand
23:18 roadran422 There is a video..
23:18 roadran422 Of a brief history of time
23:19 dehve a video?
23:19 roadran422 Yah...
23:19 dehve that's interesting lol
23:19 leepod its so fucking cold out, i stayed out there for 6hours plowing the big hill i have with a tiny tractor
23:19 roadran422 lol dehve
23:20 dehve so is it a video of a person reading the book? :/
23:20 ajcc isn't it a tv-series?
23:20 roadran422 dehve: idk xD
23:20 dehve a brief history of time is a book
23:20 dehve maybe they made it into a miniseries or something?
23:20 ajcc yes, but the video roadran422 is thinking of
23:21 dehve each chapter covers a different concept, so it's feasible
23:21 roadran422 let me look something jp
23:22 roadran422 Is there alot of words per page?
23:22 dehve nothing crazy
23:22 dehve it's like a short novel
23:22 dehve illustrated
23:22 roadran422 Should pass 250?
23:23 dehve it's only 204 pages :(
23:23 roadran422 Oh.... lol
23:24 roadran422 I will ask my teacher
23:24 leepod im cold
23:24 roadran422 ...
23:25 Seroster Lets see now.
23:25 dehve ok here's a crazy thought. so time and space are related - time can be considered the 4th dimension. the speed time passes at is affected by how fast you're moving.
23:25 roadran422 ..
23:25 astro73|alice dehve: right. go on
23:25 dehve so... the reason we experience time, is because our solar system is flying away from that big bang point really fast
23:26 astro73|alice dehve: umm... no. Faster you move, slower time is.
23:26 roadran422 Ok then...
23:26 dehve no, not exactly
23:26 dehve the faster you move, the faster you move through time
23:26 dehve normal by your perception, MUCH faster to an outside observer
23:26 roadran422 So does an object that floats hit the wall because it's not attached to the earth? We are moving as fast as the earth..
23:26 leepod ok dehve  lets as "the church" what thet think about that XD
23:27 dehve if you think of time as a 2D plane, the faster you go, the faster you zip through it
23:27 astro73|alice dehve: as you approach c, your time slows down relative to a stationary observer. That is, you age less.
23:27 dehve yes
23:27 astro73|alice ok
23:27 dehve but like i said, that outside observer sees you moving very fast
23:28 astro73|alice yes
23:28 RageRiot hi ^Prophet^
23:28 ^Prophet^ oh helloz
23:28 dehve so to you, they would appear to be slower
23:28 astro73|alice although i'm not sure how you define "speed" in this case
23:28 dehve because they're "moving" through time slower than you
23:28 RageRiot did you get anywhere with your wii ?
23:28 astro73|alice dehve: except in that case, you need a 3rd reference point
23:28 ^Prophet^ nah
23:28 dehve yes lol
23:28 roadran422 WHY!
23:28 astro73|alice and if you're in the capsule, outside time is going to wizz by
23:28 ^Prophet^ ive been sleeping most of today
23:28 roadran422 Lazy.
23:29 RageRiot lol
23:29 RageRiot what time is it where u are ?
23:29 roadran422 ^Prophet^: Anything on the gba? xD
23:29 dehve so what i'm saying is, if you could figure out how to "stop" relative to the big bang's origin point, would time stop for you? everyone would observe you frozen?
23:29 RageRiot 23:MM here
23:29 RageRiot 23:29
23:29 roadran422 So ^Prophet^ anything bout the gba?
23:30 ^Prophet^ yeah
23:30 roadran422 ?
23:30 ^Prophet^ :P
23:30 roadran422 So?
23:30 Seroster Im so fucking pissed at this thing.
23:30 roadran422 Seroster: At what?
23:30 Cprossu fuck I am bored
23:30 Cprossu http://oi44.tinypic.com/29d8d1f.jpg
23:31 dehve if we experience "normal" time because we (our entire galaxy) are moving very fast through space, a traveller travelling even faster than us would experience even faster time
23:31 roadran422 ^Prophet^: ?...
23:31 astro73|alice dehve: no, time would move the same for you relative to the origin point
23:31 Cprossu wouldn't be as bad though http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=15o6j9t&amp;s=5
23:31 BotSteve Title: Image - TinyPic - Free Image Hosting, Photo Sharing & Video Hosting
23:31 Cprossu ^ if that weren't attached
23:31 ^Prophet^ yes?
23:31 roadran422 ...
23:31 roadran422 xd
23:31 RageRiot cant understand why but mu client seems to have a problem displaying timestamsp and I never had issues in the past
23:31 roadran422 xD
23:31 Seroster so... Cprossu, how does it feel never getting any? =P
23:32 ^Prophet^ lol
23:32 roadran422 ?
23:32 ^Prophet^ brb
23:33 dehve yeah, so our galaxy is flying away from that origin at X velocity, so we experience time at Y rate
23:33 roadran422 ok..
23:33 * leepod shivers
23:33 astro73|alice dehve: relative to the origin, yes
23:33 roadran422 leepod: Blanket?
23:34 leepod i have on on me
23:34 Seroster USB to SATA wire. Registers that the HDD is there, connects to it, but nothing more.
23:34 dehve so say our galaxy somehow sped up (somehow...), we would perceive no change, but we would move through time faster, and would appear to be moving faster to another galaxy, because we get from time point A to time point B faster.
23:34 leepod its a quilt even
23:34 Seroster Same problem with 5 drives.
23:34 Seroster Same problem with both computers
23:34 astro73|alice dehve: right.
23:34 Seroster I got power, (+12 +5 gnd)
23:34 Seroster I got continuity in the sata-usb
23:35 dehve so what if velocity determines how one experiences time?
23:35 Seroster The USB port works with my extra 1tb drive
23:35 dehve velocity relative to the big bang origin
23:35 Seroster So... What is wrong and how do I fix it?
23:35 dehve or in general
23:35 dehve the faster you move relative to an arbitrary stationary point in space, the faster you move in time
23:35 astro73|alice dehve: it contributes to it, but two objects stationary to each other still experience time, just at the same rate
23:35 Seroster I thing I might run this aluminium drive in a super saturated (warm) sodium chloride solution.
23:36 dehve and it just so happens that we move VERY fast relative to that arbitrary origin
23:36 dehve but those two objects stationary to each other are likely still moving away from the big bang origin quite quickly
23:37 dehve and so they experience the passage of time, because they are moving quite fast. just not relative to each other
23:37 astro73|alice dehve: except we've already established that the origin is just a point in space
23:37 astro73|alice relativity doesn't care about it
23:37 dehve yes, but we're all exploding away from it
23:37 RageRiot testing this --> 23:01
23:37 RageRiot hmm
23:37 astro73|alice you need to be able to make the same argument about any other point
23:37 astro73|alice since it's all relative
23:38 dehve but we aren't exploding away from that other point
23:38 RageRiot dammit. still broken
23:38 dehve since we don't know how fast we're moving relative to that original origin, we can't know how to set an arbitrary absolutely stationary point in space
23:38 RageRiot anyway use mirc ?
23:38 astro73|alice dehve: ok, lets assume you're in a microuniverse of two objects
23:39 dehve ok
23:39 astro73|alice this universe is otherwise identical to ours
23:39 RageRiot ahh never mind
23:39 dehve rageriot: web client here :P
23:39 astro73|alice if these two objects move at the same vector--stationary to each other--how does time move for them?
23:39 RageRiot heh
23:39 roadran422 How'd we get in to this xD
23:40 RageRiot my time stamps keep messing up. I fixed it but I think it fails to saves the settings
23:40 astro73|alice brb, groceries
23:40 dehve if this microuniverse (which has boundaries, for the sake of this argument), and those two objects are not moving relative to those boundaries, would they experience the passage of time at all? since they are 100% stationary for all conceivable reference points?
23:41 dehve they would not be moving through space. therefore, they would not be moving through time
23:41 RageRiot brb
23:43 dehve but if they start moving at the same vector, but stationary to each other, they would experience the same time passage, because they are moving relative to the universe
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23:52 * Cprossu reads Seroster's comment.... I think you know very well how not being layed feels Seroster =P
23:53 Ponko what a day
23:53 astro73|alice dehve: i was assuming the universe did not have bounderies, so that you could only define reference points relative to other objects
23:54 dehve ok, we can do that
23:54 dehve assign a 100% stationary point in the universe
23:54 RageRiot yay, fixed the time stamps :D
23:54 dehve now if something is not moving at all relative to that stationary point, is it still experiencing the passage of time?
23:55 astro73|alice dehve: what is a stationary point? you can only observe relative to our two bodies
23:55 astro73|alice the universe has no other features
23:55 dehve lol, true
23:56 dehve for the sake of the argument though, a point which is stationary relative to everything else in the universe
23:56 dehve from any other observer, anywhere, it is not moving
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23:56 ^Prophet^_ wow
23:56 astro73|alice so, define a point stationary relative to our other two not-moving objects
23:57 dehve_ joined #thegeekgroup
23:57 dehve_ apparently it kicked me without kicking me...
23:57 ^Prophet^_ ...
23:58 ^Prophet^_ lag...
23:58 astro73|alice so you have 2 objects and a point, all stationary to each other, in an otherwise empty and featureless universe
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23:59 dehve_ yes
23:59 astro73|alice do these objects still experience time? yes

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