Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-01-26

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00:14 Ponko roadran422: after a belated wait here they are
00:14 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XhVLcc36Nk
00:14 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sFYSW6QHCQ
00:14 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh6EXnZ-Yjg
00:14 Ponko watch them in order
00:14 BotSteve Title: Idiot Teacher (Willy Wonka) - YouTube
00:14 BotSteve Title: Wonka Percentages - YouTube
00:14 BotSteve Title: Willy Wonka Computer - YouTube
00:14 Ponko as in click the top link first roadran422
00:18 roadran422 Ok xD
00:18 Ponko trust me it's better that way lol
00:20 roadran422 xD
00:20 roadran422 Dumb teacher can't figure out two.
00:20 roadran422 lets see shall we.
00:21 roadran422 2/1000 = .0002 or .02%
00:21 Coderjoe no
00:21 roadran422 ...
00:21 roadran422 .c 2/1000
00:21 BotSteve 0.002
00:21 Ponko .2%
00:22 roadran422 Oh xD Sorry
00:22 Ponko .c 1000/2
00:22 BotSteve 500
00:22 roadran422 ...
00:22 Ponko hmm
00:22 roadran422 Wow, dumb computer...
00:22 roadran422 WAIT!
00:22 roadran422 AI back then xD
00:22 Ponko i forgot how to do it
00:22 Ponko lol it's a joke thng
00:22 roadran422 I didn't know they had AI hahahaha
00:22 Ponko seen the last vid?
00:23 roadran422 Wtf?
00:23 roadran422 You call that equal?
00:23 Coderjoe haha
00:24 Ponko no the end of it
00:24 roadran422 1. Fail. 2. Those aren't equal. 3. Fail. 4. Yes xD
00:24 Coderjoe if you want equal parts, you MEASURE
00:24 roadran422 Yah... You don't "time" it lol
00:25 roadran422 It was Nitric Acod, Glycerin and Sulfiric Acod
00:25 roadran422 *Acid
00:25 Ponko roadran422: it's the character in the film and the end didn't actually happen
00:25 roadran422 I know :P
00:25 Ponko brb
00:25 roadran422 Same... gtg eat
00:25 Ponko it was hilarious though
00:25 roadran422|eat Yah ll
00:27 Ponko Coderjoe: you saw it i guess lol
00:28 Ponko .seen BatSteve
00:28 BotSteve Ponko: I last saw BatSteve 18.91 hours ago at 2012-01-25 05:33:54 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:28:36 UTC
00:28 Ponko hmm
00:28 Ponko thanks BotSteve
00:28 BotSteve You're welcome, Ponko
00:29 Ponko BotSteve: where are the 3 remaining golden tickets
00:29 roadran422|eat .c The probability of finding a golden ticket.
00:29 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
00:30 roadran422|eat :)
00:31 Coderjoe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8MVdoL27ZY
00:31 BotSteve Title: How Willy Wonka Should Have Ended - YouTube
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00:37 Coderjoe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Cby33ZR98
00:37 BotSteve Title: WILLY WONKA - Recut Horror Trailer - YouTube
00:42 yNos yay
00:43 Ponko hahaha the departure of Seroster hasn't been so openly celebrated
00:43 Ponko :P
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00:55 egrsteve hello
00:58 Monkeh egrsteve: Hallo
00:59 roadran422|eat Back
00:59 roadran422 Nice video xD
01:01 yNos so how are thigs in here tnite?
01:01 yNos roadran422: are you going to make nitroglycerin?
01:01 roadran422 For me, good so far. I might randomly have a seisure from a random sharp pain in my leg.
01:01 roadran422 And no, xD it was a wili wonka paraody...
01:02 roadran422 Also, If you read up. I got my hand stuck in a nerf gun's barrel, yanked it out, and peeled a peice of skin.
01:02 roadran422 It is still attached.
01:03 roadran422 So, how about you yNos?
01:03 yNos is it the first time you have lost skin?
01:03 roadran422 Nope.
01:03 yNos i am ok, we just got back from the local brewery
01:03 roadran422 Oh nice xD
01:03 yNos it wont be your last.
01:03 yNos skin loss is like being wrong, it happens more than you like to admit.
01:04 masterofmonks Especially if you work in aluminum fabrication.
01:04 roadran422 My brother cut a peice of skin when we were 5 playing with scissors, I've skinned my hands and knees for the first time on a ramp. (According to my brother I flipped 1-3 times?)
01:05 roadran422 It was a 1 foot ramp, I was on a bike, and I was about 9-12 feet away?
01:05 roadran422 Ridding full speed.
01:06 yNos skin loss and bone breakage are part of growing up.. part of learning how to do things w/o breaking yourself later in life.
01:06 roadran422 Hahaha, I haven't broke a bone....
01:07 yNos i have liquified the bottom 2 inches of my tibia/fibia and broke my collar bone 3 times.
01:07 roadran422 I've been in the hospital 2 times. 1st time for running someone head on in to their for head, then we both fell on to a wooden floor, came home and threw up went took an x-ray, 2nd time for  due to the ramp thing, 2nd for
01:07 yNos collar bone from doing stupid stuff on bikes..
01:07 roadran422 yNos: What the hell? And liquified? As in fully compacted and crushed it in to powder?
01:07 yNos ankle from doin stupid stuff on rollar blades..
01:08 roadran422 Dang, I've never broken any thing. Other than skin...
01:08 yNos i was left with bone chips.. and 2 8 inch TI rods.
01:08 roadran422 I did have my brother slam me under the nose with a 7up can...
01:08 Coderjoe i've been in the hospital several times, all for asthma. I also had a period where I was in the ER often enough that I knew the layout and some of the staff recognized me :-\
01:08 roadran422 Wow... That sucks...
01:08 roadran422 yNos: Give me the induction heater ;)
01:09 roadran422 Also, do you trip the airport security up?
01:09 Coderjoe I don't think Ti rods would cause security any issues
01:09 roadran422 Oh ok, but still with an induction heater ;)
01:10 yNos my ankle was from doing a backflip on blades.. something i had done multiple times.. the ground came up faster than i thought and i rolled my ankle over so bad i had bruises from where the wheels hit my calf.
01:10 yNos airport security hasnt been an issue
01:10 roadran422 Damn... that must of hurt.
01:10 yNos actually, endorphines are amazing things.
01:10 roadran422 Oh ok good, airport security hasn't tortured you yet hahaha
01:10 Coderjoe on the same leg?
01:10 sndwrx Stainless steel jewlery isn't an issue, I can't imagine titanium implants would be.
01:10 yNos my sister was more freaked out than i was.
01:11 roadran422 Hahaha
01:11 yNos left leg only
01:11 roadran422 It's weird, I could break my bone, and it won't hurt as much as a paper cut.
01:11 Coderjoe I mean the wheels hit the calf on the same leg?
01:11 roadran422 OUCH!
01:11 yNos i need to afk a bit.. Tracey is needy as fuck today.. dunno why..
01:11 roadran422 Who? Your wife?
01:12 yNos yes, they hit the calf on the same leg.
01:12 roadran422 Damn.
01:12 yNos she is mah gf
01:12 Coderjoe ouch
01:12 roadran422 Good luck yNos. They can be ehh..
01:12 yNos bbiab
01:12 yNos you are 14, you dont know the half of it yet..
01:12 roadran422 HAHAHA
01:12 roadran422 I'd tell you things I've been through.
01:13 roadran422 If it wasn't for the fact they are sorta personal...
01:13 roadran422 Hint, geeks are usually what? xD
01:13 roadran422 Not male.
01:15 sndwrx Geeks are usually not male?
01:15 roadran422 No....
01:15 roadran422 Outcasts
01:15 roadran422 :)
01:16 SparkyProjects How can we be outcasts when there's so many of us :P
01:17 roadran422 In hs.... Yes  i am the weird social outcast. That most hate ;)
01:17 roadran422 But, the IRC RULES!
01:17 Coderjoe but the "lord of the flies" social structure in high school isn't like real life
01:18 roadran422 ...
01:18 sndwrx Depends on where you work.  :D
01:19 roadran422 ...
01:19 roadran422 Haha
01:25 Ponko turning up to your wedding Skydiving is an AMAZING idea
01:26 Ponko not only that it's impressive if you pull off perfectly
01:26 roadran422 Not if your chute fails.
01:26 Ponko yeah but that actual is rare
01:26 roadran422 Still a possibility xD
01:26 Ponko you have a back release
01:26 roadran422 But, it's nice lol
01:27 SparkyProjects I remember in air cadets they said "if your chute fails, take it back and complain" :D
01:27 Ponko if the chute fails you initiate the back up release catch
01:27 Ponko yeah i love things like that
01:28 Ponko like if you're not here put your hand up
01:28 Ponko if that fails you open it with a knife
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01:43 yNos back
01:43 roadran422 Yo ynos
01:43 roadran422 How was your gf?
01:43 yNos well..
01:43 roadran422 .........
01:44 yNos we had a hell of an argument earlier.. and i was a little more abrasive than i should have been.
01:44 yNos tact is not by strong suit some times.
01:44 roadran422 Ah..
01:45 tonsofpcs hi
01:46 yNos yo
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01:52 BatSteve tact is overrated
01:52 roadran422 Don't have sun with a dog collar!
01:52 roadran422 *son
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02:02 Coderjoe hmmmmm
02:02 Coderjoe http://www.wayfair.com/Woodstream-Victor-Rodnt-Metal-Pedal-Mouse-Trap-Bulk-72-016899-BPE1003.html
02:02 BotSteve Title: Woodstream Victor Rodnt Metal Pedal Mouse Trap Bulk 72 | Wayfair
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02:06 Coderjoe better price: http://www.amazon.com/Metal-Pedal-Mouse-Trap-Bulk/dp/B0046VBYK4
02:06 BotSteve Title: Amazon.com: Metal Pedal Mouse Trap Bulk 72 - M040 - Bci: Pet Supplies
02:06 tlockley heh, that could be worth it
02:07 tlockley and economically feasable
02:08 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh6EXnZ-Yjg anyone who ain't seen this already watch it lol
02:08 BotSteve Title: Idiot Teacher (Willy Wonka) - YouTube
02:09 tlockley funny scene
02:09 Ponko the end is priceless
02:10 tlockley kinda lame but funny none the less
02:10 Ponko i wasn't expecting that at first
02:10 Ponko how many bars did you open
02:11 tlockley bars?
02:11 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XhVLcc36Nk&feature=related
02:11 BotSteve Title: Wonka Percentages - YouTube
02:11 Ponko explains
02:11 tlockley yep
02:12 Ponko that teacher is hilarious
02:12 tlockley oh yah
02:12 eadthem so my dad just sent me a message
02:12 eadthem o ya  my hard drive makes grinding sounds like when i save or access stuff
02:13 eadthem sounds like a motor bearing going out
02:13 eadthem and then i get him to admit  hes been hering it for a week
02:13 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sFYSW6QHCQ BatSteve is this BotSteve and you with a British accent
02:13 BotSteve Title: Willy Wonka Computer - YouTube
02:13 Ponko eadthem sounds like something my dad would do
02:14 tlockley Ponko: this is a real explosion --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cy0bd-TdmA
02:14 BotSteve Title: Pepcon Explosion - BEST QUALITY, UNEDITED. - YouTube
02:15 egrsteve gdtyui
02:16 tlockley evening seve
02:16 tlockley *steve
02:16 egrsteve evening
02:16 tlockley whats good?
02:17 egrsteve not a lot at the moment, I have a headache and m braindead
02:17 tlockley ouch, well im right there with ya on the 2nd one
02:17 roadran422 So..
02:18 egrsteve so?..
02:18 roadran422 Hi egrsteve xD
02:18 egrsteve hi
02:18 roadran422 Anything new?
02:18 tlockley road ^^^
02:19 egrsteve not realy
02:19 egrsteve tff got the second box from haas today
02:19 roadran422 Ah...
02:19 egrsteve *tgg
02:19 roadran422 What was in it?
02:19 egrsteve you'll see
02:19 roadran422 ...
02:19 roadran422 Were you there at the lab 2day?
02:20 egrsteve it will be in the CB
02:20 roadran422 Ik... xD
02:20 egrsteve brefily
02:20 roadran422 Oh :(
02:20 roadran422 I was wondering if my package arrived, it was in a generic envelope...
02:20 roadran422 I hope it wasn't passed through as bills xD
02:20 egrsteve what was in it
02:20 egrsteve I saw most of viewer mail
02:20 roadran422 A laptop webcam from my laptop. It was wrapped in a green sticky note.
02:21 roadran422 And another sticky note with it.
02:21 egrsteve can't say I saw it
02:21 roadran422 Awh :( I hope it got their and it didn't get passed through as bills xD
02:22 roadran422 *there
02:22 roadran422 It was meant to be a little joke, I said I'd send him a "security camera" but it is just a little laptop webcam...
02:22 egrsteve ah ok
02:22 roadran422 I hope it gets there :(
02:23 egrsteve might be usefull for the bocsy station
02:23 roadran422 If dave handles the bills... I'll ask him
02:23 roadran422 Here let me show you the picture
02:23 roadran422 http://laptopparts.com.au/images/6330854475087587502_webcam.jpg
02:23 roadran422 No cable though
02:25 Monkeh Cable's easy
02:25 Monkeh It's just USB
02:25 roadran422 Then it might be useful.
02:25 roadran422 Monkeh: I thought a few people on here had an argument already over usb verse cable to driver board to usb xD
02:25 eadthem he sounds genuenly unconcerned
02:25 roadran422 ...
02:26 eadthem for someone who hasnt been running the backup macro i wrote for him
02:26 * roadran422 lost.
02:26 Monkeh roadran422: I assure you, it's just USB.
02:26 roadran422 xD
02:26 roadran422 Ok Monkeh
02:26 eadthem the one that in 1 click will back up absoutly everything on the disk with no effort other than plugging in his external hdd
02:26 roadran422 Ok... Isn't there software taht does that?
02:27 eadthem ya but if i write it i know it will work
02:27 roadran422 Backup and autoplay..
02:27 Monkeh roadran422: The laptop already has a USB controller with multiple USB root hubs. Why on earth would you replicate that hardware and have to run a bus out to something just for a seperate USB controller?
02:27 roadran422 xD
02:27 Ponko egrsteve: you ever heard of the Siemens System 4004
02:27 roadran422 ^ead
02:27 roadran422 Monkeh: True....
02:27 egrsteve no
02:27 roadran422 Monkeh: Also, I see a ic chip on the board also?
02:27 Monkeh roadran422: Plus there aren't enough wires on that for it to be anything except USB, firewire, or the likes of RS232. It won't be the latter, I've never seen a cheap camera use firewire, so..
02:27 Monkeh roadran422: Yes, there will be power regulation and the camera controller.
02:27 roadran422 5 pins? One for ground?
02:28 Monkeh roadran422: Two data, one +5V, one ground, one shield.
02:28 roadran422 Oh ok
02:28 eadthem i dont trust my backups to  jank comerical software   somthing that important deserved a custom c++ program
02:28 Ponko hmm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sFYSW6QHCQ egrsteve
02:28 BotSteve Title: Willy Wonka Computer - YouTube
02:28 roadran422 And what's the difference between a negative terminal and ground?
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02:28 Thermoelectric https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s320x320/395950_10150512292698040_104392178039_8926405_1348784506_n.jpg
02:28 Monkeh roadran422: In this sort of setup? There isn't one.
02:29 roadran422 .log
02:29 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
02:29 eadthem roadran422 1 billon volts
02:29 roadran422 Closed out on accident
02:29 eadthem or 0 volts
02:29 eadthem depending on how things are wired
02:29 roadran422 Oh..
02:29 tlockley Monkeh: for true brain fuck on computer webcams. early apple imacs used 4pin FireWire as a USB connector just to fuck with people
02:29 eadthem ground is your point of refrence
02:29 eadthem it is not somthing that realy exist in anything but your head
02:29 Monkeh With USB, shield and ground ('negative') are used interchangeably usually.
02:30 roadran422 Last trivial question. Why the hell is carbon not a metaloid? It can conduct electricity under certain condition?
02:30 Monkeh eadthem: Actually, in my house (and most of my electronics), ground is, quite literally, the potential of the ground under my feet.
02:30 eadthem in that case it is
02:31 Monkeh eadthem: When it comes to my PC you'll find ground is actually connected to the ground conductor coming into the PSU.
02:31 Monkeh eadthem: And whether or not the ground under your feet is 'ground' becomes of deadly import when you're handling AC distribution. :)
02:32 eadthem yep
02:32 Monkeh tlockley: Apple like to do stupid things
02:32 Monkeh roadran422: If you want some confusion: Look into TN-C-S earthing systems.
02:32 tlockley indeed
02:32 roadran422 One second
02:32 Monkeh You may be a few minutes wrapping your head around that once things get split up
02:32 Monkeh (see also: Why 'neutral' is considered a live conductor)
02:32 roadran422 Wtf?
02:33 roadran422 Isn't neutral = zero?
02:33 roadran422 Neutral = to ground?
02:33 Monkeh But no.
02:33 roadran422 Then it's called live.
02:33 Monkeh No, it's called neutral because it doesn't explicitly have a potential to ground.
02:33 Monkeh It's most definitely called L2 when you're dealing with a centre-tapped transformer, though.
02:33 roadran422 I'm no electrician, so monkeh layman's terms/
02:34 Monkeh roadran422: I don't do layman.
02:34 roadran422 :P
02:34 Monkeh Neither does 240VAC
02:34 roadran422 Someone translate into laymans.
02:34 roadran422 240DC at 10 amps + Monkeh = Smoke
02:34 Cheezmo Neutral isn't ground-bonded, so it can still have voltage
02:34 tlockley roadran422: lmgtfy
02:34 roadran422 :P
02:34 Monkeh Cheezmo: Well.. actually, it is.
02:35 Monkeh Cheezmo: The problem is WHERE it's ground bonded.
02:35 roadran422 Ground is earth protected, but it has voltage because the earth is a capacitor?
02:35 Cheezmo at a certain point, but throughout the household, it does tend to have voltage
02:35 Monkeh Cheezmo: Not measurable with the average meter, mind you.
02:35 Monkeh But if there's a damaged circuit or piece of equipment, it can bite.
02:35 Cheezmo Monkeh, I just measured 0.495Vac
02:36 Monkeh And if there's a lot of really crappy loads (low PF FTL) it can get quite high.
02:36 roadran422 Monkeh so according to you if ground still has a current to it. I can stick my tounge in to a ground and it would hurt?
02:36 Monkeh Cheezmo: The only meter I have which could possibly measure that is down for the count
02:37 Cheezmo I just have a basic Fluke 110
02:37 Monkeh Cheezmo: That's a little fancier than what I have available.
02:37 Cheezmo what, analog?
02:37 Monkeh Although I have this Avometer but it's in need of parts.
02:37 Monkeh Cheezmo: No, just cheap. Except for the Avo.
02:38 Cheezmo so it only measures to rounded off volts? o.O
02:38 Cheezmo no dV?
02:38 Monkeh Cheezmo: On the AC range? Yes, and it doesn't like anything below about 5V.
02:38 Cheezmo what's it's max range?
02:38 Monkeh Cheezmo: 600.
02:38 Cheezmo that IS cheap o3o
02:38 Monkeh Cheezmo: It's your average multimeter, I'm no made of money.
02:39 roadran422 Starting to forget who on fb is correlated to irc... So... Who's ryan?
02:39 Monkeh It's accurate on DC and resistance (if you remember to take the leads out)
02:39 Cheezmo I swore my cheapie that I had did down to the .5 at least
02:39 Monkeh Cheezmo: Mine goes way, way down on DC. Just not AC.
02:39 Monkeh Cheezmo: And it freaks right out if you give it a modified sine wave (or worse)
02:39 Cheezmo curious
02:40 Monkeh It's not like I have anything much AC to use it with
02:40 Monkeh I've got a couple of 9VAC transformers and that's as low as I normally go
02:40 Monkeh And when it comes to mains anyway the voltage tends to fly
02:41 Monkeh Let's see what I'm at now (according to my UPS because the meter is.. well, I'm not sure where it is right now)
02:41 Cheezmo and here I have 2 nice oscilloscopes and nothing to measure
02:41 Monkeh Cheezmo: 244.4. I've seen it as far down as 236 and as far up as 249.
02:42 Cheezmo oh I'm sure the voltages change like no tomorrow
02:42 Monkeh Cheezmo: Hence extreme accuracy not of use to me. :)
02:42 Cheezmo but as for frequency, that's down to near the mHz accuracy I'm sure
02:42 Monkeh Cheezmo: Frequency does not change much.
02:43 Cheezmo http://www.ams09.fr/Ventes/01-2012/Nicolet4094C.JPG
02:43 Cheezmo I have one of these beasts
02:43 Monkeh Cheezmo: I can tell you exactly what the frequency is right now.
02:43 Cheezmo 50.0 I bet P:
02:44 Monkeh Well, okay, what it was two minutes ago
02:44 Monkeh 50.096 actually
02:44 Cheezmo seems much too off for normal
02:44 Monkeh It never varies by more than .5Hz by law but their normal max is .2Hz.
02:44 Monkeh Cheezmo: It's night. There's not a lot going on.
02:45 Monkeh At this hour a large number of streetlights are turned off
02:45 Cheezmo maybe it's different regulations there on frequency
02:45 Monkeh Cheezmo: As I said, .5Hz by law, .2Hz normally
02:45 yNos egrsteve: you still around?
02:45 Monkeh Last hour shows it high by up to .12Hz
02:46 Monkeh .. Wow, something big just kicked on because it's dropped by .2Hz
02:46 roadran422 ...
02:46 roadran422 I'm lost at all this electronic stuff.. I wasn't even reading xd
02:46 yNos BotSteve: tell egrsteve check this out - http://www.repeater-builder.com/motorola/r100/r100-overview.html a schem for the "programmer" we need to make for that radius repeater..
02:46 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
02:46 BotSteve Title: Motorola Radius R100 (and MCR100) UHF Repeater (RT) Station Overview
02:46 Monkeh roadran422: And yes, licking a ground line can hurt.
02:47 Monkeh roadran422: Why? Because you're not at ground potential now are you?
02:47 roadran422 Idk.... I thought ground won't do anything, all electricity dispates through that line.
02:47 Cheezmo well, if you manage to rub around on the shag carpet in wool socks
02:47 Cheezmo you'll get a good zap
02:47 Monkeh roadran422: Not exactly.
02:47 roadran422 And if you have an amp hoooked up to a guitar and the ground pin breaks, you screwed.
02:48 Monkeh roadran422: If you connect only the positive terminal of a battery to ground, what happens?
02:48 roadran422 Nothing? The circuit isn't closed.
02:48 Monkeh roadran422: Exactly.
02:49 roadran422 ...
02:49 Monkeh roadran422: Electricity doesn't go to ground. It goes to source.
02:49 roadran422 Then what does the ground do?
02:49 Monkeh It's what we use as a reference.
02:49 roadran422 And why does it kill you if it isn't there in the case of an amp and a guitar.
02:49 Thermoelectric And it's also there in the case of a fault.
02:49 roadran422 Ok... Mini lecture xD
02:50 lwq1996 ok what does .cm mean?
02:50 roadran422 .w .cm
02:50 BotSteve ".cm is the country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Cameroon." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.cm
02:50 Cheezmo .com with a typo?
02:50 lwq1996 dumbass bot, cameroun not cameroon
02:50 lwq1996 yes
02:50 roadran422 .w cameroon
02:50 BotSteve "Cameroon, officially the Republic of Cameroon (French: République du Cameroun), is a country in west Central Africa." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameroon
02:50 roadran422 ^
02:51 lwq1996 it says cameroun on google
02:51 roadran422 .w cameroun
02:51 BotSteve "Cameroun[dubious – discuss]| was a French and British[dubious – discuss]| mandate territory in central Africa, now constituting the majority of the territory of the Republic of Cameroon." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cameroun
02:51 roadran422 ^
02:51 Monkeh lwq1996: Cameroun is french.
02:51 roadran422 And british
02:51 lwq1996 i was on the french site i guess
02:52 Monkeh roadran422: No, that's not what I meant.
02:52 roadran422 Ok...
02:52 Ponko Monkeh most of the North African countries are french
02:52 Monkeh Cameroun is French. Cameroon is English.
02:53 Ponko some of course aren't but a majority of them are
02:53 Monkeh Ponko: And again that's not what I'm talking about. Go to bed. :P
02:54 roadran422 Did chris and joe and the viewers get the plasma cutter running/
02:54 Ponko lol i know you're not but i'm stating a fact :P
02:54 Ponko Côte d'Ivoire, Ivory Coast
02:55 roadran422 Coast or Coat?
02:56 Monkeh Ponko: Here, give me a hand with this globe..
02:56 Monkeh Ponko: Right over roadran422's head, and...
02:56 roadran422 It's easy to hold the earth in your hands now, the world gets smaller and smaller each day due to globalization.
02:57 roadran422 Through that proccess and through the advancing years, we will be able to go from the U.S. to asia in a snap of the finger.
02:57 roadran422 Globalization plays wonder in connecting our society.
02:57 Monkeh Now he's talking like a chinaman
02:58 roadran422 I am in Human Geography.
02:58 lwq1996 UBUNTU SUCKS
02:58 Monkeh Human Geogra- Seriously, when did school become such a joke?
02:58 roadran422 :P
02:58 lwq1996 god damn thing
02:58 roadran422 It's an ap class.
02:59 roadran422 I don't like that class, it's an elective and has no application to my future other than a credit.
02:59 roadran422 Also, I have my powerpoint, excel, and word certs.... Which is just more credits.
02:59 roadran422 And bragging rights, I'm striving for access and outlook, and word and excel mastery
03:00 tlockley lwq1996: try slackware?
03:00 tlockley or if you really feel like having "fun" gentoo
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03:00 Monkeh roadran422: I have similar 'certs' in the use of office software. They take an afternoon.
03:00 roadran422 xD They do lol
03:00 Monkeh tlockley: No no no, LFS
03:00 roadran422 It's bothering me that the captain's blog has no thumbnail
03:00 tlockley LFS?
03:00 Monkeh tlockley: Think Gentoo but you have no package manager.
03:00 roadran422 Gentoo xD I heard it takes a while lol
03:01 RoadkillinRI heyyyooooo nantuckettt
03:01 RoadkillinRI tips hat
03:01 roadran422 Monkeh: I just want credits and bragging rights, and the fact that most of the people in that class aren't savy. I'm the only one with 3 certs so far, and soon to be 4...
03:01 lwq1996 ive never heard of slackware
03:01 roadran422 hey RoadkillinRI
03:01 tonsofpcs slax
03:01 roadran422 Isn't all of this under linux?
03:01 tlockley Monkeh: thats like the linux version of 5hr energy
03:02 Monkeh tlockley: It's a somewhat futile effort but on the plus side you get to learn a lot about how things go together.
03:02 tlockley ^ superfact
03:02 yNos BotSteve: tell egrsteve also this.. http://www.miarc.com/standards.html and http://www.miarc.com/standards.html - i assume we would be a SNPR, maybe a district machine..
03:02 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
03:02 BotSteve Title: MARC: MARC Standards
03:02 tonsofpcs Monkeh: duct tape.  Everything goes together with duct tape.
03:02 Monkeh tonsofpcs: That's what an ebuild is, yes.
03:02 tonsofpcs :)
03:02 roadran422 Ah now I know what duck vs duct tape is xD
03:03 roadran422 Duct tape is duck tape.
03:03 roadran422 Duck tape is a company..
03:03 roadran422 *Duck brand
03:03 RoadkillinRI unless its gorilla tape
03:03 roadran422 ... Which is better?
03:03 roadran422 And gorilla tape is expensive!
03:03 Monkeh RoadkillinRI: And then there's real duct tape which comes in several varieties which have nothing to do with duct tape
03:03 Monkeh err, tabfail
03:03 Monkeh RoadkillinRI: Stop having the same first three letters.
03:04 roadran422 Hahaha
03:04 roadran422 Who came first?
03:04 roadran422 And isn't it 4?
03:04 RoadkillinRI lmao
03:04 Monkeh roadran422: Almost certainly him.
03:04 roadran422 Hmm let see...
03:04 tonsofpcs Monkeh: exactly!
03:04 tonsofpcs 3 chars then tab!
03:04 roadran422 I can't tell using whois
03:04 Monkeh tonsofpcs: :)
03:04 roadran422 I've been on here for 1 month and a day
03:04 Monkeh roadran422: I can tell using deduction.
03:04 tonsofpcs Thermoelectric didn't understand that.
03:05 roadran422 I've been on the irc for the first time back in 2009-2010?
03:05 roadran422 But wasn't in to it.
03:05 Monkeh roadran422: Dude, I'm calling you a kid again. Keep up. :P
03:05 roadran422 ...
03:05 * tonsofpcs has been on IRC since 1995/1996...
03:05 RoadkillinRI hahaha
03:05 roadran422 I'm blind xD
03:05 roadran422 Night all!
03:06 tonsofpcs I've been using this nick since ~1998...
03:06 RoadkillinRI left irc in like 96/97...now back in 12
03:06 tonsofpcs RoadkillinRI: I blame EFnet.
03:06 roadran422|zZz Night!
03:06 roadran422|zZz I blame.
03:06 Monkeh I've only really used IRC since..
03:06 Monkeh 2005.
03:07 RoadkillinRI misses FidonetBBS
03:07 tlockley TGG is the only reason i have used IRC in a long while. I started in 99/2000
03:08 Monkeh tlockley: Use Gentoo daily and sooner or later, you'll need IRC
03:08 Monkeh Funnily enough I've been on IRC since my first day after running into some.. troubles, shall we say.
03:08 tlockley true. I used t use gentoo, but not long enough at one time to get to that point
03:08 tlockley what was the problem?
03:08 Monkeh These days it's more me helping others with theirs, I can take this thing apart and put it back together again by hand without needing the tree.
03:08 roadran422|zZz Started using the computer when I was 5?
03:09 roadran422|zZz No when I was probably 3.
03:09 tlockley ^ lies
03:09 roadran422|zZz I'd be that lonely one on the computer playing pooh bear xD
03:09 Monkeh tlockley: Oh, hell, I can't remember, it was 2005.
03:09 roadran422|zZz And I forgot what the name was :(
03:09 roadran422|zZz tlockley: It isn't a lie.
03:09 masterofmonks Which was what a couple of years ago roadran422|zZz?
03:09 Monkeh tlockley: All I know is I was confused as hell by it at the time.
03:09 RoadkillinRI TI99 in basement
03:09 Monkeh masterofmonks: Oi, I thought I was playing bad cop tonight? :P
03:09 roadran422|zZz Let see, maybe in 2003? My brother was about 1 year old? So about 20033
03:10 roadran422|zZz *2003
03:10 tlockley yah, gentoo is semi confusing. but i first learned *nix on NetBSD
03:10 Monkeh tlockley: It gets a lot better.
03:10 roadran422|zZz I was playing pooh bear games, and remember my brother frying the computer by shoving a floppy disk in to it.
03:10 Monkeh tlockley: Once you learn it it's so much more sensible than all this binary crap.
03:10 RoadkillinRI yeah ... FreeBSD
03:10 RoadkillinRI lol
03:10 roadran422|zZz Night..
03:10 tlockley Monkeh: i really need to quit handycaping myself with MacOS
03:10 Monkeh Okay, so it's slow, but flexibility is worth it to me
03:11 Monkeh (and by slow I mean to update, it's plenty fast when running)
03:11 tlockley the only thing that is slow is compiling GTK or QT
03:11 tlockley or similarly stupid BS
03:11 Monkeh tlockley: Qt yes, GTK not so much
03:11 Monkeh tlockley: Qt is HUGE. GTK+ is actually pretty slim.
03:11 tlockley i guess
03:11 RoadkillinRI which is why it's a BSd distro
03:12 Monkeh Thu Dec 29 18:30:12 2011 >>> x11-libs/gtk+-3.2.3
03:12 Monkeh merge time: 2 minutes and 7 seconds.
03:12 RoadkillinRI derp for being redundant
03:12 Monkeh Tue Nov 29 14:27:26 2011 >>> x11-libs/qt-core-4.7.4-r1
03:12 Monkeh merge time: 15 minutes and 2 seconds.
03:12 Monkeh There's a hell of a lot more to Qt than core.
03:12 tlockley heh
03:12 tlockley true
03:12 tlockley though i usuially find that i never just merge gtk+
03:13 Monkeh Of course that varies wildly depending on what you use
03:13 tlockley its always acompanied by lots of other BS
03:13 Monkeh qt-core is about 6 minutes on my server and it's nowhere near as fast as this box
03:13 tlockley actually I wonder how well Gentoo supports the 2011 MBPs
03:13 tlockley and Intels Thunderbolt
03:13 Monkeh tlockley: Uhm, fairly well I think, let me look
03:14 Monkeh I have no idea on Thunderbolt, but AFAIK it's just the physical standard on top of PCI-E electrically, right?
03:14 tlockley sorta
03:14 tlockley the TB controller encapsulates DisplaPort and PCI-E
03:14 Monkeh tlockley: Broadcrap wireless may be a problem.
03:14 tlockley FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
03:14 tonsofpcs RoadkillinRI: I was programming at 5....
03:15 tlockley i hate broadcom with a passion
03:15 Monkeh tlockley: I'm not familiar with current support for those chips.
03:15 Monkeh tlockley: I hate Broadcom SOFTWARE with a passion.
03:15 Monkeh tlockley: Their hardware, backed by properly written drivers, actually works really well.
03:15 tlockley true
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03:15 tlockley well i may skip the new MBP and just convert my old MBP to Gentoo only
03:16 Monkeh tlockley: Give it a try, all it can cost you is a day or two.
03:16 tlockley because i know there is not diplay BS i really need to battle with
03:16 Monkeh tlockley: Which GPUs do they have?
03:17 tlockley Core2Duo has a 8600M GT and the new one has a AMD HD6750M/Intel HD3000
03:17 tlockley with the switchable graphics thingy
03:17 tlockley but i think in gentoo it defaults to the AMD
03:18 Monkeh tlockley: I'm not sure if the latter works at all under Linux, honestly.
03:18 Monkeh tlockley: As for the 8600, that's no trouble.
03:18 tlockley yep
03:18 tlockley thats why i am just gonna do it on the old one
03:18 Monkeh I have an G86 in my Thinkpad, works great with the binary driver
03:18 tlockley what thinkpad?
03:18 Monkeh (that's an 8400M, btw, confusing as hell)
03:18 Monkeh tlockley: R61.
03:18 tlockley dope
03:18 Monkeh Old and battered and still going strong.
03:19 tlockley i have a X201T and a T30
03:19 Monkeh I'd like a T61 but with exactly the same guts they're +50% price.
03:19 Monkeh .. the only difference is a couple of sockets being soldered on.
03:19 tlockley derp
03:19 Monkeh I mean that quite seriously, too, they're just missing some mPCIe sockets and the connector for serial/parallel in the ultrabay.
03:19 tlockley I ind just with my X201 had DP onboard without the ultrabase
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03:20 tlockley fuck i cant type
03:20 Monkeh You wish it had displayport without a docking station?
03:20 tlockley i wish i had DisplayPort on my X201 without the ultrabase
03:20 tlockley yah
03:20 tlockley that
03:20 Monkeh Yeah, I wish my R61 had DVI without the dock.
03:20 Monkeh But meh, it's not THAT important
03:20 Monkeh I hardly use an external display anyway
03:21 tlockley if i ever quit procrastinating on my other project i would use my laptops with external displays either
03:22 tlockley I want to convert my intel xserve to a better mobo/case without the shitty apple smc controller
03:23 Monkeh tlockley: So.. you want a proper box? ;)
03:23 tlockley in so many words
03:23 tlockley i would stick with the 1U xserve but the fans are just way overkill noisy because the SMC on the mac thinks its near critical temp all the time
03:24 tlockley and 18 fans at 18k rpm each is fucking LOUD
03:24 Monkeh tlockley: No kidding.
03:25 Monkeh I thought my Itantic was bad with six at 7500..
03:25 Monkeh Er, Itanic
03:25 Monkeh Can't type either!
03:25 Monkeh It's that past 3am thing.
03:25 tlockley so im planning on getting a dual LGA771 SuperMicro
03:25 tlockley and a 4U rack case
03:26 Monkeh tlockley: 120mm FTW.
03:26 tlockley with a standalone fan controller if i can swing it
03:27 Monkeh tlockley: I've been pondering trying to design my own for a while..
03:27 Monkeh tlockley: USB controlled PWM fan controller.
03:27 tlockley sweet
03:27 Monkeh Should be relatively simple but I'm lazy, broke, and hate doing electronics design.
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03:28 tlockley well when im done it should be one hell of a franken box
03:29 Toastdude Hi
03:29 tlockley hey toast
03:29 Toastdude How are you?
03:29 tlockley i cant see straight
03:29 Monkeh Well, best head to bed, got a cloakroom to start gutting tomorrow.
03:30 tlockley gnight Monkeh
03:30 tlockley hey Toastdude how old are you?
03:31 Toastdude 13, 14 in April
03:31 Toastdude Why?
03:31 tlockley just curous
03:31 tlockley *curious
03:32 tlockley whats new?
03:36 eadthem smart data shows a flawless drive with 10217 power on hours
03:37 eadthem so i told him to rerun the autobackup program tonight and keep a eye on it
03:41 tlockley you dont believe your drives eadthem
03:44 tonsofpcs Monkeh: can't you just use a RS232 converter for PWM and push different data for different pulses?
03:47 Ponko night time beckons
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03:52 eadthem you could but you cant guarntee it wont latch up
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03:59 wannabe1987 todays work day was brought to you by the letter "P"
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04:00 wannabe1987 my shoes were sticky, but i walked in snow :/
04:01 tonsofpcs and the number W!
04:01 Toastdude Wannabe!
04:01 wannabe1987 hi Toastdude
04:01 wannabe1987 why the letter "W"?
04:01 wannabe1987 number*
04:02 * wannabe1987 still wants her technology to work
04:02 wannabe1987 properly*
04:03 wannabe1987 time to put groceries away....brb
04:03 * exor674 hugs wannabe1987
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04:12 BatSteve a wild katemonster appears
04:12 Katemonster a new challenger approaches.
04:12 BotSteve csmonster: I have the following messages for you:
04:12 BotSteve At 16 Jan 13:29Z, DruidicRifleman asked me to tell csmonster whats your suggestion for a 16 inch Ar15 upper With Flip up Sight midlenth Modular handgaurd Bayontet lug
04:12 Katemonster ugh.
04:12 lwq1996 cant sleep in my fucking bed tonight.
04:12 Katemonster build it yourself.
04:13 BatSteve in before "mattel"
04:13 BatSteve ..darn
04:13 Katemonster lol
04:14 * exor674 bites Katemonster
04:14 Katemonster ow
04:14 * Katemonster bites exor674 on the ear
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04:15 Hydroelectric Hello everyone.
04:15 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe1987
04:15 Hydroelectric Turns out it wasn't my network, it was a driver issue. Laptop change has solved my problems hopefully.
04:15 tonsofpcs hi Tyler.
04:16 Hydroelectric Hello tonsofpcs.
04:17 BatSteve hey hydro
04:17 Hydroelectric Hey BatSteve.
04:17 Hydroelectric How have you been since we last spoke?
04:19 BatSteve Less sick, which is nice!
04:19 BatSteve Thanks for asking!  You?
04:19 Hydroelectric That's good. Pretty good. Today is Australia Day so not much is happening.
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04:20 Hydroelectric Hello DruidicTankThief.
04:21 DruidicTankThief hey
04:21 * wannabe1987 sees what exor674 did o.O
04:21 exor674 what did I do?
04:21 wannabe1987 hugged me
04:21 wannabe1987 lol
04:21 Hydroelectric ...
04:21 wannabe1987 yay for a less sick bats!
04:21 DruidicTankThief Lesbian hugging
04:22 wannabe1987 no....i'm not a lesbian
04:22 DruidicTankThief ;)
04:22 wannabe1987 what Hydroelectric?
04:22 Hydroelectric Nothing.
04:22 wannabe1987 ....
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04:27 wannabe1987 wb
04:27 wannabe1987 Hydroelectric
04:35 wannabe1987 i....think i killed irc :/
04:35 BatSteve You did
04:35 BatSteve Congratulations!  That means you win!
04:35 Thermoelectric Well done!
04:35 wannabe1987 win what?
04:35 wannabe1987 thanks!
04:35 wannabe1987 this is ponko's job tho....
04:42 eadthem so what dose firewatch exactly mean
04:42 eadthem everyone running around trying to figure out where the smoke is comming from?
04:43 wannabe1987 everyone had to walk around the building to see where the smoke was the strongest (under the furnace in MDH) and see if we spot flames (none seen)
04:43 * wannabe1987 was there
04:44 Thermoelectric Should the smell of the rubber belt not have been distinguishable?
04:44 eadthem so what did the mechanical inspectors say about the prezile
04:45 wannabe1987 it was a smell of burnt rubber, but at the beginning we didn't know what it was
04:47 Thermoelectric Ah, okay.
04:48 wannabe1987 my grandma has her 2nd hip replaced tomorrow
04:50 Katemonster what about the 3rd?
04:51 wannabe1987 third surgery....she had two surgeries on the 1st hip
04:51 wannabe1987 that'll be done later :P
05:18 KawaiiJess wannabe1987, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/12956542/Misc/Self/Neon_Pink_Nails.png
05:19 wannabe1987 thparkly
05:19 wannabe1987 those yours?
05:19 KawaiiJess Yup ^_^
05:19 wannabe1987 nice
05:19 KawaiiJess I haven't painted my nails in awhile so I messed up a bit, but yeah it's 80s style neon matte pink with a layer of sparkle over it
05:21 wannabe1987 i don't paint my nails....i will chip at it and it will look bad
05:21 wannabe1987 looks orange, not pink :P
05:21 KawaiiJess Lol. Yeah that's my shitty 3 megapixel camera
05:21 tonsofpcs I don't paaint my nails... (I don't think I need aa reason)
05:21 wannabe1987 lol yes you do
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05:22 wannabe1987 some guys paint their nails :P
05:22 wannabe1987 Noise_Marine, do you paint your nails?
05:22 KawaiiJess tonsofpcs, some ladies find it very sexy when their men paint their nails
05:22 tlockley gnight all
05:22 KawaiiJess There's also nothing wrong with a little gender bending ;)
05:22 wannabe1987 night tlockley
05:23 Noise_Marine no used to when I played bass/guitar
05:23 wannabe1987 see?  guys paint nails
05:23 wannabe1987 !
05:23 BatSteve Those aren't pink they are orange?
05:23 BatSteve oops
05:23 BatSteve didn't read.
05:23 wannabe1987 lol
05:23 wannabe1987 BatSteve, you just showed how smart you are
05:23 BatSteve ?
05:24 wannabe1987 and that was sarcasm
05:24 BatSteve I am V. Smart.
05:24 BatSteve (:
05:24 wannabe1987 i know....you can fly planes!
05:24 BatSteve (I also have high self esteem and your sarcasm has no effect on me)
05:24 BatSteve :P
05:24 wannabe1987 thats good!
05:25 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell Toastdude http://www.exploratorium.edu/ronh/solar_system/
05:25 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when Toastdude is around.
05:25 BotSteve Title: Build a Solar System Model | Exploratorium
05:25 KawaiiJess Here's the FB description: 80s style matte pink polish (China Glaze - Flip Flop Fantasy) with a coat of glitter. (China Glaze - Snow Globe)
05:26 BatSteve How do you get your nails to shine, without polishing them?
05:26 BatSteve er, without chemical nail polish?
05:26 KawaiiJess You buff them
05:27 BatSteve With something special?
05:27 BatSteve Or will anything work?
05:27 KawaiiJess Either with progressively smoother ebony files or like a buffing kit
05:28 BatSteve Hurm.  That must be why.  There was a kid in high school who had really, really nice, shiny nails.  He said he didn't put polish on them.
05:28 BatSteve I tried buffing mine on my jeans, but it didn't work.
05:28 BatSteve so I gave up.
05:28 BatSteve (then again, I only spent maybe thirty seconds on it, so there's that)
05:28 wannabe1987 lol
05:28 wannabe1987 i used to have a nail buffer, but i lost it
05:28 tonsofpcs KawaiiJess: no, but there's no reason for me to paint my nails.  I'm an engineer, everything I wear has a good reason :-p
05:29 KawaiiJess Yeah BatSteve, rubbing them on your jeans wouldn't do shit
05:29 tonsofpcs my nails shine... not as much as my pastey white skin, but still :-p
05:29 KawaiiJess If you want to be lazy about it, just go to a salon and ask them to buff your nails
05:29 KawaiiJess Hey, I'm an engineer too.. That's a shitty excuse
05:29 tonsofpcs ok, I'm a partially OCD engineer
05:29 KawaiiJess Aren't all engineers?
05:30 BatSteve Meh.  I don't care enough to actually go somewhere, but if I could develop it as a nervous habit or something, I wouldn't mind.
05:30 KawaiiJess Go buy one of those little buffing kits then
05:30 tonsofpcs I wear hydrophobic pants, shirts with pockets, etc...  I have a really comfortable Cisco polo (which I will wear because it keeps me warm too) but it bothers me that I doon't have a pocket on it.
05:31 KawaiiJess :o Hydrophobic pants are legit
05:31 KawaiiJess I had a pair of those a few years ago in cargo pants style
05:31 KawaiiJess They were Columbia brand
05:32 KawaiiJess I want that shit on my shoes so I can dump chocolate syrup all over them like in that online video
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05:32 tonsofpcs crazy winter tech (especially with lake-effect snow):  1) flannel pants (2) Hydrophobic pants.  Hydrophobic pants do nothing for wind, but the flannel stops it.   Lake effect snow can be brushed off of hydrophobic pants prior to entering a building or car like it's sugar dusted over a smooth teflon surface
05:33 tonsofpcs also, microfiber hydrophobic == tech++
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05:33 tonsofpcs which reminds me *needs to find somewhere that sells MSA safety glasses*
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05:34 tonsofpcs Home Depot and Lowes by me all switched to stocking 3M, which suck.
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05:36 tonsofpcs alternativelly, neutral density glasses :D
05:36 Hydroelectric Sorry I left, I haven't changed the laptop sleep setting yet.
05:38 tonsofpcs reminder: change laptop sleep setting
05:39 * Hydroelectric has successfully change laptop settings... :-D
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05:39 BatSteve Hydroelectric wins!
05:39 BatSteve Flawless victory!
05:40 tonsofpcs http://www.safetyworks.com/catalog/product501626.html look like the ones I got last time
05:40 BotSteve Title: Pro 6 Safety Glasses
05:40 tonsofpcs not 100% sure.  Clearr, tinted+UV, Boating+UV is what I have for lenses.  I also need a good polarized and/or ND pair....
05:40 * Hydroelectric is proud to have won...
05:41 tonsofpcs or are those polarized... hmm.
05:42 BatSteve Hurm.
05:42 * BatSteve sleep
05:42 BatSteve *s
05:42 BatSteve goodnight wannabe1987
05:42 wannabe1987 night BatSteve
05:42 wannabe1987 :)
05:42 BatSteve goodnight everyone who isn't wannabe1987
05:42 wannabe1987 see?  i *am* popular
05:43 wannabe1987 and important
05:43 tonsofpcs g'nite steve
05:44 Hydroelectric Night BatSteve-Away.
05:45 Druidic_Rifleman :(
05:46 Druidic_Rifleman I saw an evil evil man destory a perfectly working genuine ww2 1911 for some hoplophoibic hate piece sick fuck doesn't know what art is
05:47 * Hydroelectric feels sorry for Druidic_Rifleman.
05:48 Hydroelectric .seen Thermoelectric
05:48 BotSteve Hydroelectric: I last saw Thermoelectric 1.01 hours ago at 2012-01-26 04:47:25 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:48:01 UTC
05:48 * lwq1996 is mr.forever alone
05:48 wannabe1987 no.  you are not.
05:48 lwq1996 where is tehdark when you want to harass him?
05:48 wannabe1987 talk to me when you're 40 and still single
05:49 wannabe1987 heck, talk to me when you're 40 anyway :P
05:49 Hydroelectric .seen tehdark
05:49 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen tehdark around.
05:49 wannabe1987 .seen tehdark45
05:49 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw tehdark45 17.60 hours ago at 2012-01-25 12:13:12 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 05:49:27 UTC
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05:49 lwq1996 wannabe your talking, your wanted im not
05:49 wannabe1987 i'm not wanted!
05:49 wannabe1987 who wants me?
05:49 wannabe1987 this is news to me....
05:50 Druidic_Rifleman Lee STFU
05:50 Druidic_Rifleman your what 15 16
05:50 wannabe1987 just cuz you're not wanted at age 15 doesn't mean you won't always be wanted
05:50 Druidic_Rifleman your to roung to worry
05:50 lwq1996 druid your wanted too :P
05:51 wannabe1987 by whom, seroster?
05:51 Druidic_Rifleman I have a shit load of enemy's
05:51 lwq1996 druid i want you :P
05:51 Druidic_Rifleman In the last yeah i've had my life threatend teice
05:51 Druidic_Rifleman my family threatend by the son of a nazi pig
05:52 tonsofpcs *orders some safety glasses*
05:52 * Druidic_Rifleman needs more
05:52 * tonsofpcs naps now
05:53 Druidic_Rifleman People look at me wird when i wair them setting of fire works
05:53 lwq1996 me protects druidic with his body
05:53 * Hydroelectric is unpacking his VGA Splittter cause it's been sitting in the original box for 2 weeks...
05:53 lwq1996 druidic, are you buzzed?
05:53 Druidic_Rifleman 1 close call when one lit off 10 inches from my face was scary
05:53 * tonsofpcs splits Hydroelectric's VGA with a knife
05:53 Druidic_Rifleman I might of been playing drunken Star tech Online
05:53 Coderjoe man... I am rather tempted to open up a couple VCRs I have and replacing the fixed power cables with IEC C18 sockets
05:53 * Hydroelectric scream and ponders revenge...
05:54 * Druidic_Rifleman hands hydro electrick 4 knive's and some rum
05:54 Druidic_Rifleman But lee
05:54 Druidic_Rifleman at your age your not going to find someone
05:54 Druidic_Rifleman ENJOY being 15
05:54 * Hydroelectric thanks Druidic_Rifleman...
05:54 CaptainNiobe "but... why is the *rum* gone?"
05:55 Druidic_Rifleman HEHEHE
05:55 Druidic_Rifleman had Larp events that ended like that
05:55 lwq1996 how can i, all i got to enjoy is my rifle and i only fire it once a month
05:55 Hydroelectric Because CaptainNiobe drank it all...
05:55 Druidic_Rifleman Can you discharge an airgun on your land
05:55 CaptainNiobe actually, i barely drink at all... lol... so i didn't drink it all...
05:55 CaptainNiobe KEIRA KNIGHTLEY BURNED IT ALL! :D
05:56 lwq1996 i got airsoft guns, and bb guns, but the bb guns are locked up and i use my airsoft to scare off cats
05:56 Hydroelectric Haha.
05:56 Druidic_Rifleman Niobe you should Play startrek online
05:56 CaptainNiobe nty, Druidic_Rifleman, already into far too many games :-\
05:56 Hydroelectric lwq1996: I could do with one of those against my cat.
05:57 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.crosman.com/airguns/rifles/pcp/MAR177
05:57 lwq1996 its not my cats, damn neighbor cats keep reproducting
05:57 BotSteve Title: Crosman | Airguns | Rifles | PCP | MAR177 PCP Conversion Kit
05:57 Druidic_Rifleman that plus a 99 dollar lower
05:57 lwq1996 it only stings them
05:58 Druidic_Rifleman An Ar would Litterally replace EVERY GUN i own current
05:58 Druidic_Rifleman currently
05:58 Druidic_Rifleman DAMN thing there Was designed to Compeat with anchutz rifles
05:58 lwq1996 i got a crossman auto pistol -cant thing of model- and a cheap cocking pistol
05:59 lwq1996 the ar is what protects our nuclear facilities
06:00 lwq1996 i need to get airsoft zomb going in my neighbor hood
06:01 wannabe1987 sounds painful, airsoft zomb
06:01 lwq1996 nah,
06:01 Druidic_Rifleman Sounds badass
06:01 lwq1996 hurts if you dont have face protection yes
06:01 Druidic_Rifleman you haven't been shot in the hand point blank
06:02 lwq1996 yes i have, stings for 10min max
06:02 lwq1996 thats with a spring pistol
06:02 Druidic_Rifleman I have a 100 dollar M4 and yeah you'll be sore for a few days
06:02 lwq1996 lol
06:02 Druidic_Rifleman Soft air zomb
06:03 lwq1996 is it green gas, co2, spring?
06:03 Druidic_Rifleman It's what rugby is to Foot ball
06:03 Druidic_Rifleman AEG
06:03 lwq1996 aeg?
06:03 Druidic_Rifleman Airsoft electric gun
06:03 lwq1996 oh all electric gun
06:03 lwq1996 oh close
06:03 lwq1996 mines electric+spring
06:04 Druidic_Rifleman it's an AEG
06:05 lwq1996 can yours be cocked?
06:05 lwq1996 http://www.crosman.com/airsoft/kits/ASP9CAH
06:05 BotSteve Title: Crosman | Airsoft | Kits | Stinger P9 Pistol Kit
06:05 lwq1996 need that
06:06 Druidic_Rifleman Don't
06:07 lwq1996 this is my main cary http://www.crosman.com/airsoft/rifles/SAPM74DP
06:07 BotSteve Title: Crosman | Airsoft | Rifles | Pulse M74DP
06:08 lwq1996 pretty fucking accurate
06:09 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell astro73 http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/408885_259600314113748_100001913432759_679610_1531737276_n.jpg
06:09 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when Astronouth7303 is around.
06:12 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?cPath=21_45_241&products_id=33095
06:12 BotSteve Title: Evike.com
06:12 Druidic_Rifleman Yeah i'd murder you in a soft air fight
06:12 Druidic_Rifleman Or aBare nuckle fight
06:12 Druidic_Rifleman Or a paint ball fight
06:13 Druidic_Rifleman or a real gun fight
06:13 Druidic_Rifleman or a knife fight
06:13 Hydroelectric Monkey knife fight?
06:13 lwq1996 dude, i dont fight i exhibition shoot
06:14 Druidic_Rifleman Pfft tricks are for kids
06:15 lwq1996 plus your what 30
06:15 Druidic_Rifleman I tried to Volentire for the Gulf war when i was 5
06:15 Druidic_Rifleman 24
06:15 lwq1996 hwo did you do that?
06:15 Druidic_Rifleman My kindergaurden teacher recomended therapy
06:16 Druidic_Rifleman they said something about it violating the geniva convention act...
06:16 Druidic_Rifleman :(
06:17 Druidic_Rifleman but yeah that crossman was designed to compeat with a nearly 2 grand rifle
06:17 lwq1996 yeah
06:18 Druidic_Rifleman and beleave me Anschutz = hot sex
06:20 MoxieMike Are anschutz air rifles up to the same level as their firearms?
06:21 Druidic_Rifleman they are olympic level rifles
06:21 Druidic_Rifleman .5mm can win a match
06:21 MoxieMike i just haven't seen many anschutz air guns
06:22 Druidic_Rifleman airgun competition is less prevolant in the USA
06:22 Druidic_Rifleman Cause they have SOOOOO many classes of competition
06:22 MoxieMike i know, but i'm an airgun nut
06:22 Druidic_Rifleman they are also like
06:22 Druidic_Rifleman 2 gran each
06:24 lwq1996 i need better guns
06:24 lwq1996 and im going to bed
06:24 lwq1996 later
06:24 MoxieMike so ya, FWB makes good target airguns too
06:26 MoxieMike Walther has a few nice looking competition rigs too
06:26 lwq1996 i love how if you need to you can pick up bbs on the ground that arnt shattered and shoot them without flaw
06:26 lwq1996 i mean need too
06:26 lwq1996 not do it all the time
06:26 MoxieMike with airsoft sure
06:27 wannabe1987 why are scrubs so comfortable?
06:27 lwq1996 especial with low power guns where the bbs dont get harmed
06:27 lwq1996 and im going to bed
06:27 MoxieMike the issue i have with airsoft is that the guns i want cost more than most of the firearms I own
06:27 Druidic_Rifleman Cause they are
06:27 lwq1996 talk to you all tomorrow
06:27 wannabe1987 night hun
06:27 wannabe1987 :hugs:
06:27 wannabe1987 sleep well
06:27 MoxieMike why sleep, i just got home from work
06:27 wannabe1987 i haven't changed out of mine yet....
06:28 wannabe1987 loll
06:28 lwq1996 -hugs- will try to, the sofa is more comfy than my bed anywas
06:28 wannabe1987 cuz he has to go to school tomorrow
06:28 wannabe1987 take care of yourself, k?
06:28 MoxieMike so do i
06:28 MoxieMike 8am
06:28 lwq1996 its 1:30 where i live
06:28 lwq1996 night all
06:28 MoxieMike i'm on the eastern time zone too
06:28 lwq1996 oh
06:29 lwq1996 i got to get up at 6
06:29 MoxieMike LLBean never closes....i work 4-midnight usually
06:29 wannabe1987 never closes?
06:29 wannabe1987 you the call center?
06:29 Druidic_Rifleman you work at LLbean? cool
06:29 MoxieMike nope, hunt/fish department
06:30 wannabe1987 ah
06:30 wannabe1987 cool
06:30 MoxieMike ya
06:30 * wannabe1987 hugs the sleeping bear :)
06:30 MoxieMike great people to work with
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06:32 Druidic_Rifleman but you see more low end's like Daisy 853's
06:32 Druidic_Rifleman atleast i have
06:32 MoxieMike ya
06:32 Druidic_Rifleman I saw 90 of them once
06:32 Druidic_Rifleman TRUST me 90 Bored teens with guns
06:32 MoxieMike i'd like a decent single stroke pneumatic...because they're consistent and quiet
06:32 Druidic_Rifleman SHOULD be listed in the geniva convention
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06:33 Druidic_Rifleman we drove the officer's insane
06:33 tehdark45 Druidic_Rifleman, pissing off the RCMP eh?
06:33 MoxieMike to shoot inside my apartment, i can't have the noise of a PCP
06:33 Druidic_Rifleman No that was my RCACC days
06:33 tehdark45 oh
06:33 tehdark45 lol
06:33 Druidic_Rifleman try the 853
06:33 Druidic_Rifleman Love it
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06:34 MoxieMike daisy is really the only game in town with that now that FWB dropped theirs
06:34 Druidic_Rifleman the rcmp is afraid of me
06:34 Hydroelectric Hey Electricguy.
06:35 Electricguy hey hey :)
06:36 Druidic_Rifleman hey EG
06:36 * Electricguy waves
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06:36 Hydroelectric Hello Guest10304.
06:37 Hydroelectric Aka, David.
06:37 MoxieMike single shot or repeater on that 853?
06:37 Druidic_Rifleman hold on
06:38 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.daisy.com/shopping/customer/product.php?productid=16204&cat=253&page=1
06:38 BotSteve Title: Daisy Shopping Cart - Model 853 Legend
06:39 Druidic_Rifleman I've put 2000 rounds though one of em
06:39 MoxieMike http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Daisy_Avanti_853/145
06:39 BotSteve Title: Avanti Daisy Avanti 853. Air rifles - PyramydAir.com
06:40 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.daisy.com/shopping/customer/product.php?productid=16203&cat=253&page=1
06:40 BotSteve Title: Daisy Shopping Cart - Model 753 Elite
06:40 Druidic_Rifleman I like the stock allittle more
06:40 Druidic_Rifleman Both will shoot 5mm groups
06:40 Druidic_Rifleman well IF you can
06:40 MoxieMike not bad
06:40 Electricguy time to go! see you all later! :)
06:41 MoxieMike haven't dont much with airguns at 10m...hard to tell
06:41 MoxieMike i know i can keep my pistol (Daisy Avanti 747) within an american dime at 10m
06:42 Druidic_Rifleman But yeah for the cost of an anchutz I aminto a 1 mile capable Savage arms in .338 lapua and Buy the Berrette Balistic computer
06:42 Druidic_Rifleman NOW
06:43 MoxieMike i want to build a savage
06:43 Druidic_Rifleman if i could shoot that MAR15 from crossman at home I'd drop 800 for one in a day
06:43 Druidic_Rifleman Don't
06:43 Druidic_Rifleman Call them
06:43 Druidic_Rifleman Tell them what parts you want on it
06:43 Druidic_Rifleman And order it
06:43 Druidic_Rifleman they do custem assembly
06:43 MoxieMike it would need a custom bolt head and barrel
06:44 Druidic_Rifleman wild cat?
06:44 MoxieMike it's for a wildcat cartridge that uses the 6.8mm spc as the parent cartridge
06:44 Druidic_Rifleman Yeah
06:44 MoxieMike so it would need the .223 bolt head opened up
06:45 MoxieMike so mu current best bet is to find one as a donor gun
06:46 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.6mmbr.com/gunweek075.html
06:46 BotSteve Title: 6.5 "Mystic" Barrel Block F-Classer
06:46 MoxieMike but if i were to build one, in your opinion, should i get the right bolt-left port action or the right bolt- left feed-right eject action?
06:46 Druidic_Rifleman Personallpreforence
06:47 Druidic_Rifleman that gun was built out of one of the old bargen stevens models
06:47 Druidic_Rifleman It will hit a man sized target with a .223 at 1 mile
06:47 MoxieMike there are a few bargain savage/stevens for sale at work
06:47 Druidic_Rifleman Order an action right from savage
06:48 MoxieMike but the action i want is over $600
06:48 Druidic_Rifleman and
06:48 Druidic_Rifleman It comes with the target trigger
06:48 Druidic_Rifleman and Possibly a warrenty
06:48 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/actions/target/
06:48 BotSteve Title: Savage Arms Firearms > target
06:49 MoxieMike so, in your opinion the 18636 or the 18183?
06:49 Druidic_Rifleman i told you personal prefference
06:50 Druidic_Rifleman what stock areyou planning for
06:50 MoxieMike probably a more typical accustock
06:50 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm any ways sleep time
06:50 MoxieMike ok, sleep well
06:50 wannabe1987 sleep well, greg :)
06:51 wannabe1987 take care
06:52 Hydroelectric Night Druidic_Rifleman.
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07:31 * wannabe1987 shoots einball's router for him
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07:32 * wannabe1987 shoots einball1's router for him
07:32 angy morning
07:33 wannabe1987 hi angy!
07:37 JA12 someone is up late again :)
07:38 wannabe1987 i blame dr who
07:38 wannabe1987 and postsecretcommunity.com/chat or whatever.... the mental health forums
07:41 Hydroelectric Morning angy.
07:44 angy today, I try to do one thing, I still don't know what, but I will (eventually)
07:47 Hydroelectric I'm currently attempting to install Ubuntu on a Wyse Thin Client VX0, but it doesn't like me that much.
07:47 angy it's because it is ubuntu :)
07:48 Hydroelectric No, it jst doesn't want to boot whenever it shutdown's.
07:51 angy the only thin client I ever used was 2x one, which is way different than anyothers
07:51 Hydroelectric What did it run?
07:52 * Hydroelectric is going insane over this thin client...
07:52 angy it's based on RDP and/or citrix and/or VDI
07:53 Hydroelectric I thought it might be Citrix.
07:53 angy the thin client feature is somehow a hidden feature in it
07:53 * wannabe1987 read that wrong o.O
07:53 angy citrix is not the main feature of it
07:53 angy the most used is the VDI and RDP connector
07:53 * wannabe1987 must go to bed now, its almost 3am
07:54 Hydroelectric Night wannabe1987.
07:55 wannabe1987 night Hydroelectric, Thermoelectric, angy, JA12 and everyone else on the other side of the world
07:55 JA12 night
07:55 tehdark45 Bye wannabe1987
07:55 angy night
07:55 tehdark45 i'm only other side of the continent though :P
07:55 wannabe1987 youre not on the other side of the world, tehdark45
07:56 tehdark45 ha
07:56 tehdark45 beat you
07:56 tehdark45 :P
07:56 wannabe1987 so that means i wasn't talking to you
07:58 tehdark45 We have dumb terminals @ school
07:58 tehdark45 the USB is server side
07:58 Hydroelectric We have a mixture of hardware.
07:59 tehdark45 makes a folder in my computer. Really slow and doesnt read all flash drives
07:59 angy we're stuck with dell computers
07:59 tehdark45 dell isnt so bad
07:59 tehdark45 in the business market at least
08:00 angy when you remove all dell thing on it, it starts to be not that bad
08:00 angy but in the business market other than workstation it sucks badly
08:00 tehdark45 you mean the software?
08:01 angy the hardware on their non workstation grade computer sucks as well
08:02 tehdark45 so what would you use for OEM? HP?
08:02 angy transtec or bull
08:02 tehdark45 ah
08:03 angy but all non workstation grade computers tend to sucks, so it's quite the same for everything
08:04 tehdark45 yeah
08:09 JA12 .c 600 lbs to kg
08:09 BotSteve 272.155422 kilograms
08:12 wannabe1987 ew.  theres toothpaste on the faucet handle.  how the fuck does that happen?!
08:13 Cheezmo wannabe1987: always sprays outta the face during brushing
08:13 wannabe1987 at least nick said he'd clean the bathroom
08:14 wannabe1987 no, Cheezmo, this is GLOBS of toothpaste...
08:14 Cheezmo poor pastemanship
08:15 tehdark45 Drunk?
08:16 angy Yay! my (second) modem is to be delivered (perhaps)
08:16 tehdark45 Dial up?
08:16 tehdark45 :P
08:17 angy SDSL
08:18 tehdark45 Synchronys DSL?
08:18 angy symmetric
08:18 tehdark45 ah
08:18 wannabe1987 wonder if i can "make" kelley vacuum the living room....she's the one that had the dog there....
08:18 wannabe1987 i can't even sit on the fucking couch because theres fucking dog hair on it
08:18 tehdark45 wannabe1987, house vote
08:19 wannabe1987 well, i got the kitchen, nick's got the bathroom, last place is the livingroom, carpet, and couches
08:19 angy which is way better if you have access to efm
08:20 wannabe1987 what happens if you microwave a wet cloth?
08:20 tehdark45 steam
08:20 angy a hot wet cloth
08:21 wannabe1987 does it loosen the shit on the microwave walls that stupid housemates put there?
08:21 wannabe1987 fyi: if you're going to microwave pizza, you should put plastic or something over it....
08:21 wannabe1987 theres plastic wrap, wax paper, tin foil and paper towel avail, don't use the tin foil
08:21 tehdark45 wannabe1987, lemon or vinegar and water
08:21 tehdark45 microwave it
08:22 wannabe1987 vinegar is in the trunk.
08:22 wannabe1987 i have a lime
08:22 tehdark45 acid will take it right off
08:22 tehdark45 just get paper towl
08:22 wannabe1987 i'm not doing it now.  maybe tuesday
08:22 JA12 when in doubt: C4
08:22 wannabe1987 friday i might be working a bit...
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08:22 tehdark45 wannabe1987, this isnt a 3 hour operation :P
08:22 Hydroelectric Hello Experimentonomen.
08:22 wannabe1987 no, i mean cleaning the entire kitchen
08:22 wannabe1987 its dirty
08:23 tehdark45 oh the whole thing
08:23 wannabe1987 i have no motivation when i get up
08:23 wannabe1987 stove top too
08:23 wannabe1987 its got finger prints
08:23 wannabe1987 its like a laptop screen
08:23 tehdark45 how?
08:23 wannabe1987 its got submerged coils?
08:23 wannabe1987 electric ftw
08:23 tehdark45 wtf touches a stove top?
08:23 wannabe1987 my fingers?
08:24 tehdark45 yeah why?
08:24 angy your head when doing head-desk and you are in your kitchen
08:24 wannabe1987 from stupidity
08:24 tehdark45 was it on?
08:24 wannabe1987 sometimes
08:25 tehdark45 get induction top
08:25 tehdark45 lol
08:26 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i change clothing
08:26 BotSteve Absolutely
08:26 wannabe1987 i dont want to
08:26 tehdark45 DOOO EEET
08:26 wannabe1987 but scrubs are so comphy
08:27 tehdark45 how is a tv show comfy?
08:27 tehdark45 :P
08:27 tehdark45 ik before you say anything
08:27 wannabe1987 i don't watch scrubs
08:29 * wannabe1987 watches dr who
08:29 wannabe1987 how did it get to be 330am?
08:29 tehdark45 we know
08:29 tehdark45 theh clock ticked?
08:29 angy because it's 9:30
08:29 * Hydroelectric will be right back.
08:32 einball1 Uahiiiiaaa ticks >.<
08:32 tehdark45 AHH crazy german alert!
08:32 angy eiiiiiiiinbaaaaaaaaallll
08:32 tehdark45 hello einball1
08:34 einball1 jo?
08:35 wannabe1987 night
08:35 angy guten Morgen
08:44 * Hydroelectric is back.
08:45 einball1 g'morning
08:46 angy Wie geht's?
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08:53 * CaptainNiobe1 curses
08:55 einball1 Super! Und dir?
08:55 einball1 curses or ncurses?
08:55 angy Gut :)
08:56 einball1 Finde ich gut. Wann kommst du mich mal besuchen? ;)
08:56 CaptainNiobe it's the second time in 2 days that's happened... I'M CURSING MY INTERNET! :P
08:56 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, your ISP is a hack, they should get off the internet
08:56 einball1 XD
08:57 Experimentonomen guten morgen urkbullar
08:57 einball1 :D
08:57 einball1 hai Experimentonomen
08:57 angy Ich weiss nicht, möglicher in einigen Monaten
08:57 CaptainNiobe my isp is perfectly legit, i THINK they were the first in aus (not sure), but they're asses...
08:57 einball1 Cool, im sommer dann?
08:57 angy CaptainNiobe: become your own ISP
08:58 einball1 back2cool languages ....
08:58 CaptainNiobe angy, hw am i supposed to do that with no knowledge, skills or cash to do such a thing? :P
08:58 einball1 CaptainNiobe: fairly easy: Make your own internet :D
08:58 angy einball1: wahrscheinlich
08:59 tehdark45 Run server, router, DNS, there  you have it, your own internet
08:59 angy CaptainNiobe: not a problem, you don't really need any of it fo become an ISP :p
09:00 tehdark45 TGGComm
09:00 CaptainNiobe - can't afford a professional server
09:00 CaptainNiobe - can afford custom dns (<-- that makes me look like a dunce, right? *headdesk*)
09:00 CaptainNiobe can't*
09:00 einball1 \o/
09:01 einball1 okay, last coffee before I start to tidy up my rooms and learn
09:01 angy CaptainNiobe: use alternative root DNS
09:01 tehdark45 You can run all of that of any computer
09:01 angy don't need your very own
09:01 angy the hardest part is going to get some IP, they now comes in a /21 I think if you want your AS as a PI
09:01 angy which is a lot for one customer
09:01 * CaptainNiobe thinks it would be currently over her head to embark on something so ambitious
09:02 tehdark45 Move to merica?
09:02 tehdark45 :P
09:02 CaptainNiobe planning on it, tehdark45 :P
09:02 einball1 YES YES YES!!!
09:03 tehdark45 are you old enough to do that?
09:03 tehdark45 :P
09:03 einball1 YES YES YES!
09:03 CaptainNiobe i think at 31 years of age, i can damn well do what the hell i want... :P
09:03 tehdark45 I duno
09:03 tehdark45 I think yu need to be 35
09:03 tehdark45 :P
09:03 einball1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWP9VvkeTmA << !!! :) :)
09:03 BotSteve Title: Chase & Status - 'Time' Feat. Delilah - Official Video - YouTube
09:04 angy CaptainNiobe: nope, too old now ;)
09:04 tehdark45 So whats the hold up? America? Monies?
09:04 * CaptainNiobe thought she was past adulthood
09:04 CaptainNiobe :P
09:04 angy you're in oldhood now
09:05 * einball1 plays the evil scienteist card
09:05 einball1 -e
09:05 CaptainNiobe i'm a disability pensioner, i'll be relying on monks and what little i can scrape together to get over there
09:05 einball1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bElj2vWPgBk << !!! :) :)
09:06 BotSteve Title: Anthony Rother - Who Knows - YouTube
09:06 tehdark45 Shoulin monks? or mom?
09:06 tehdark45 :P
09:06 CaptainNiobe mom
09:06 einball1 I think he means monkeys
09:06 CaptainNiobe "he"?
09:06 einball1 Yes
09:06 tehdark45 einball, duck and cover
09:06 CaptainNiobe last time i looked i wasn't a he lol
09:06 angy that reminds me that I have to update my speed entry to USA
09:06 einball1 That's what I'vre learned: Everyone on IRC is a guy until proven otherwise
09:07 einball1 :o)
09:07 * CaptainNiobe sighs and digs out fb image links for something like the 4th time
09:08 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, That is not an accurate source of proof
09:08 angy there is also things, like Serosters
09:08 tehdark45 I could find any random 19 year old woman and say thats me
09:08 tehdark45 when i am a guy
09:08 tehdark45 :P
09:08 einball1 word! :D
09:09 tehdark45 I think the ratio of Americans to non americans is always higher here
09:09 CaptainNiobe https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2692/70/111/585007985/n585007985_1704855_6789610.jpg
09:09 CaptainNiobe https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2692/70/111/585007985/n585007985_1704856_324541.jpg
09:09 CaptainNiobe i r teh fugly one in grey shirt and cap
09:12 CaptainNiobe now tell me: if i were lying about who i am... why in hell would i pick someone so fugly? :P
09:12 tehdark45 fun?
09:12 einball1 Because every guy thinks he's ugly
09:13 tehdark45 einball, we just dont give a shit
09:13 einball1 XD
09:13 einball1 oh well
09:13 CaptainNiobe ask monks when he gets on, he's seen me on webcam :) he'll confirm those photos are of meh...
09:14 tehdark45 It could be an inside job
09:14 tehdark45 :P
09:14 einball1 I can't stop talking in sarcasm, black humor and trollphrases .. And my brain won't let me stop
09:14 CaptainNiobe ask lemming - he's seen me in the flesh! :D
09:15 tehdark45 so i guess you are nearby?
09:15 einball1 Experimentonomen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kpi31f_WKs
09:15 BotSteve Title: D.M.T.V: DJ Rankin - I Am A Raver - YouTube
09:15 einball1 :D
09:15 CaptainNiobe hsbne is 3 corners away from where i live... lemming lives a few suburbs away...
09:16 einball1 Experimentonomen: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq0UtZjxQhs CHIPSCREEEEAAAAAAMMMMM
09:16 BotSteve Title: Chipskream - Ephixa [2010 Hardstyle] - Bass Overdose Mix - YouTube
09:16 * einball1 freaks out
09:17 CaptainNiobe you can also ask SparkyProjects, he and i have known each other for more than 6 years...
09:17 einball1 You just gign't get it :P
09:18 einball1 *didn't
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09:18 CaptainNiobe well, if you don't believe i'm a woman, that's your problem, not mine. :P
09:18 tehdark45 So imma guess someone heard about TGG and told people at HSBNE?
09:18 tehdark45 and now you are here
09:19 CaptainNiobe no, i'm here because of SparkyProjects... i'm also at hsbne due to him, he introduced me to lemming through here
09:19 Thermoelectric The wonders of TGG.
09:19 CaptainNiobe before tgg, i didn't even know what a hackerspace was
09:19 tehdark45 lol
09:20 einball1 :P
09:20 einball1 Actually
09:20 einball1 TGG is not a hackerspace
09:21 einball1 Because no one gets the building done :D
09:25 tehdark45 There are no spaces around here
09:25 tehdark45 Well there is one... $100/month
09:25 tehdark45 screw that
09:26 einball1 only $100/month?
09:26 einball1 wow
09:26 CaptainNiobe that's $25 a week
09:26 tehdark45 tgg is like 365/year
09:26 tehdark45 :P
09:26 einball1 I could move into the building on the opposite site of the street. but they'd charge me about 400€ for one 19m² room
09:26 angy 365,25
09:27 tehdark45 I mean the hackerspace
09:27 tehdark45 not a lab
09:27 tehdark45 to rent
09:27 tehdark45 .><
09:27 tehdark45 :P
09:27 tehdark45 http://vancouver.hackspace.ca/wp/
09:27 einball1 Hm, well ... I have 2 options: Either I got to the Entropia .. or I go to shackspace ..
09:27 BotSteve Title: Vancouver Hack Space - 45 W. Hastings Street, Vancouver, BC
09:27 einball1 both sucks
09:28 n1mjf gm tgg
09:28 * n1mjf took the night off work after car repairs didn't go well.
09:28 tehdark45 OMFG Ok no way am i EVER going threre.. East Hastings... *shivers*
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09:29 tehdark45 oh it is west
09:29 tehdark45 meh still bad
09:29 tehdark45 lol
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09:30 mooselova hi, anyone see the resent captains blog?
09:30 tehdark45 that is a stupid nick
09:30 tehdark45 >.<
09:30 tehdark45 :P
09:31 mooselova whatta video! moose with her "i love my bike" T shirt....and no bra under it ..watch when she bends over to take shit from the box! lol. PLEASE CAN YOU FIX IT FOR ME TO SEE HER TOMORROW DOING SOME LATHE WORK WEARING NO PANTIES? :)
09:32 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, time to kick me thinks
09:32 CaptainNiobe how 'bout we knock that shit off, hey?
09:33 Experimentonomen CaptainNiobe, why not just outright ban them moose fanboys? ;p
09:34 angy they have so no idea what she is really...
09:34 CaptainNiobe i'm npot sure i'm allowed to ban outright. however, a mute is effective as long as a ban is - ie, until it's removed.
09:35 einball1 angy: What is she? An alien from outer space? :P:
09:35 angy an alien from east germany
09:35 JA12 CaptainNiobe: the thing in front of your nick says you're allowed to ban
09:35 angy it's even worse
09:35 einball1 Well ... If I'd settle over I'd be an alien from south germany ... XD
09:36 CaptainNiobe not nessicarily, JA12, my understanding is bans are made with a 3-op vote. until another 2 ops come on... i can't ban (at least, that's how i understand it)
09:36 einball1 Is it correct if I entitle mooselova as "a thing" :D
09:37 tehdark45 CaptainNiobe, make 2 people ops
09:37 tehdark45 :P
09:37 Experimentonomen CaptainNiobe, except a mute is reset whenever a user quits and rejoins
09:37 CaptainNiobe lol... nope... :P
09:37 tehdark45 See, I am a solutions providor
09:37 tehdark45 er*
09:37 tehdark45 "{
09:37 tehdark45 :P*
09:37 einball1 o_O
09:37 Thermoelectric CaptainNiobe, it's better to quiet rather than ban, unless they do something really bad.
09:37 angy I'll vote for Seroster :p
09:37 CaptainNiobe Experimentonomen, i was told it stayed until the mode was removed
09:37 einball1 +q is essentially the same as +k
09:38 * Experimentonomen just paid over 1000 euros worth in bills and owage for loans
09:38 Thermoelectric Quiet does stay until the flag is removed.
09:39 CaptainNiobe good to know, Thermoelectric :)
09:39 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, what did you do O_o
09:39 einball1 illegal downloads ^^
09:39 tehdark45 lol
09:39 tehdark45 I dont think you can do that in EU
09:40 tehdark45 it is america that cares
09:40 tehdark45 lol
09:40 einball1 ROFL
09:40 Experimentonomen dentist 370 euros, rent for apartment 370 euros, 25 euros for internet, around 300 euros in loans
09:40 einball1 I just paid over 2000€ for two fucking bad movies I downloaded because I used a not private server once ..
09:41 Experimentonomen so i have around 400 euros left that i somehome have to make last a month until next payday
09:41 einball1 and 150 are reserved for important things, right? :D
09:42 Experimentonomen all 400 is reserved for food, clothes and other household stuff
09:42 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, do it the American way
09:42 Experimentonomen i cannot spend a dime on hobby stuff at this point
09:42 einball1 tehdark45: shoot someone!?
09:43 tehdark45 Pay a credit card with a credit card
09:43 tehdark45 lol
09:43 * Experimentonomen throws snowballs at tehdark45
09:43 tehdark45 .tfwc surrey
09:43 BotSteve 3 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Surrey, CA!  'Fuck this place.'
09:44 tehdark45 Abit warm for that
09:44 einball1 Oh no, it's quite warm here .. sun's shining
09:44 einball1 .tfwc muhlacker
09:44 BotSteve 0 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Muhlacker, GM!  'Fuck this place.'
09:44 einball1 err. not quite
09:44 Experimentonomen it should say that about -10 to -20c :P
09:44 einball1 4°C
09:45 tehdark45 .tfw sweden
09:45 BotSteve 30 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND SNOWING IN Stockholm, SW!  'Your source of crude weather!'
09:45 JA12 Experimentonomen: I feel your pain. I once paid one of the two student loans and all the bills for that month in one go.
09:45 tehdark45 .c 30f to c
09:45 BotSteve -1.11111111 degrees Celsius
09:46 einball1 I've never seen any Aurora :(
09:46 einball1 .tfwc Muhlacker
09:46 BotSteve 0 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Muhlacker, GM!  'Fresh off the tap.'
09:46 einball1 What is "GM"?
09:46 tehdark45 GerMany
09:46 Experimentonomen i kinda wanna buy a 10" subwoofer driver with like half a meter cone excursion but its around 200 euros so... yeah
09:46 tehdark45 derp
09:46 einball1 not really!?
09:46 einball1 Germany is GE or DL
09:47 tehdark45 einball1, it is TFW, they dont care
09:47 einball1 it's 4°C over here
09:47 angy .tfwc paris
09:47 BotSteve 7 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Paris, FR!  'Listen, weather. We need to have a talk.'
09:47 einball1 tfw? the fucking weather? :D
09:48 Experimentonomen fump
09:50 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, Germany and Canada beat your life expectancy
09:50 tehdark45 ;p;
09:50 tehdark45 lol*
09:51 JA12 where the bot gets the weather info?
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09:52 JA12 google?
09:52 Thermoelectric Probably a question for BatSteve if nobody here can answer it.
09:52 Experimentonomen tehdark45, its like -10C and snowing where i live :P
09:52 JA12 .tfwc lappeenranta
09:52 BotSteve 11 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING COLD AND SNOWING IN Lappeenranta, South Karelia, !  'Its time for a vacation.'
09:53 JA12 11C :D :D
09:53 JA12 it's -11
09:53 Av_Nekoroms -6 here :)
09:53 tehdark45 +3 here
09:53 Experimentonomen .tfwc härnösand
09:53 BotSteve KeyError: u'\xe4' (file "/usr/lib64/python2.7/urllib.py", line 1238, in quote)
09:54 Experimentonomen blah
09:54 Av_Nekoroms but +11 would be better
09:54 Experimentonomen in parts of sibiria that have a constant -50C all year round
09:54 Av_Nekoroms JA12: but yeah :) moi
09:54 einball2 Experimentonomen: iLike :)
09:56 einball :P
09:56 JA12 Av_Nekoroms: päivää :) did you mean that it's -6 in lappeenranta? idk but it certainly is not +11°C
09:56 Av_Nekoroms JA12: -6 in tampere :)
09:56 JA12 Av_Nekoroms: oh ok
09:57 einball Iam running out of music :(
09:57 Av_Nekoroms eiku.. my weather widget is thinking he's in helsinki
09:57 Av_Nekoroms need to set my location again
09:58 JA12 Av_Nekoroms: you're not Tuomas are you?
09:58 Av_Nekoroms JA12: eeeen
09:59 JA12 Av_Nekoroms: k. wannabe-zz has mentioned the name and I thought you might be him
10:00 Av_Nekoroms JA12: if you whois me you can see my realname :)
10:01 JA12 Av_Nekoroms: ah. ok
10:07 Av_Nekoroms lots of captains blogs to watch cause i was away home to install some stuff to my truck
10:09 Av_Nekoroms 7" inch screen and radio antenna and wires for rearview camera
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10:10 Av_Nekoroms ah and a masterswitch for the batteries
10:15 JA12 Av_Nekoroms: does these screens work (without slowing down) in cold weather or do you have a detachable model?
10:15 Av_Nekoroms it seemed to work just fine
10:16 Av_Nekoroms even my gps works just fine when its cold
10:16 Av_Nekoroms old one used to slow down a bit
10:16 JA12 Av_Nekoroms: my brother is planning a car pc and he has no idea what kind of screen he'd need
10:16 Av_Nekoroms but it warms up fast too
10:17 n1mjf JA12: I had one
10:17 JA12 Av_Nekoroms: is it just a screen?
10:17 Av_Nekoroms JA12: nope
10:17 JA12 n1mjf: detachable screen?
10:17 n1mjf JA12 i first used el-cheapo screen and the touch failed a few weeks into winter
10:17 n1mjf no
10:18 n1mjf www.srt4pc.net
10:18 Av_Nekoroms heh that 7" screen with dual inputs and a remote did cost about 80 dollars
10:18 n1mjf I never rebuilt the website after a hosting problem. I just dumps the pics
10:19 n1mjf the 2nd screen I use was a higher end lilliput led backlit 8.4"
10:19 n1mjf off ebay. it was about $240-250
10:19 Av_Nekoroms my screen is a led screen allso
10:19 Av_Nekoroms its damn bright in dark
10:19 n1mjf that lasted 3 winters and then I took everything out and sold the car
10:19 JA12 n1mjf: lilliput is the one that works great?
10:20 n1mjf the higer end one I noticed had a lower temp rating
10:20 n1mjf I almost had a company put one togther for me for $1200
10:20 n1mjf mil-spec
10:21 JA12 ok. that would be too much =)
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10:22 n1mjf I'm thinking of ver. 2 in my ml320 but it's on hold for other reasons
10:22 n1mjf this one will be a little pc and might use Android
10:27 n1mjf The expensive lcd I was going to buy was custom made to order and you could pick from 5 different touch types. I was going to get a SAW element and that explains the $1200 price
10:28 n1mjf It was also transflective
10:29 JA12 lilliput has usb touchscreens
10:29 JA12 http://store.mp3car.com/Lilliput_8_Inch_USB_Touch_Screen_UM_80_C_T_p/mon-103.htm
10:29 BotSteve Title: Lilliput 8 Inch USB Touch Screen UM-80/C/T
10:31 n1mjf that looks very similar
10:32 n1mjf I have usb monitors at work. they've not good for everything
10:32 n1mjf *they're
10:37 JA12 that might be the only option if my brother wants to keep the monitor with him
10:37 n1mjf oh, yeah
10:38 n1mjf option 2, just have a tablet pc on a police-car like laptop mount
10:39 JA12 idk. it would be nice to get it off to keep it safe but if the screen works well in the cold, hiding it would be an option (I think)
10:41 JA12 he wants the computer itself to be in the car
10:41 n1mjf just a thought
10:42 JA12 nothing wrong with the though. I suggested that to him too
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10:43 JA12 if he gets his build right, I might want similar a setup :)
10:44 JA12 * a similar
10:48 n1mjf I will guess he is planning on keeping his radio?
10:49 n1mjf I remove the radio and just wired amps direct to the pc for 5.1 audio
10:50 JA12 no he doesn't like his current cd/mp3 player and asked me how he gets sound out. I said that he can get 7.1 out if he want's =)
10:52 n1mjf Yeah, exactly.
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10:55 JA12 if I were to build that I'd have more problems with it because I have modular system
10:55 JA12 cd player and air conditioning controls are on the same panel
10:56 JA12 and I have sound etc. controls on the steering wheel
10:58 n1mjf there are aftermarket devices to get those steering wheel controls to USB
10:59 JA12 I know I can get an adapter for it but didn't know there are usb versions too. that would be neat
11:02 JA12 have to go to get my package from postal office. bbl o/
11:32 roadran422|zZz morning
11:32 roadran422 ACTA!
11:35 masterofmonks roadran422: :controversial
11:37 roadran422 o
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12:45 KB3NZQ morrning dbshortwave
12:48 dbshortwave good morning KB3NZQ
12:49 KB3NZQ so what is the weather like up there
12:50 dbshortwave its cold .. not as cold as it was
12:50 dbshortwave .tfw 13346
12:50 BotSteve 26 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Hamilton, NY!  'Fantastic do-nothing weather.'
12:51 KB3NZQ it is cold and rainy here
12:51 KB3NZQ Weather in: Valencia, Butler County, United States: Now: Cloudy, 32ºF Today: Rain, between 34ºF and 46ºF. Tomorrow: AM Rain/Snow, between 31ºF and 40ºF.
12:52 dbshortwave not sure what iots suppose to do
12:53 dbshortwave we have an 80% chance of snow
12:53 dbshortwave tonight rain
12:53 dbshortwave tomorrow snow
12:53 KB3NZQ funn
13:03 BitViper feel free to send any unwanted snow up here to north central michigan
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13:12 Hackbat http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/01/radar-russian-reagan-probe/
13:12 BotSteve Title: Pentagon Denies Downing Russian Mars Probe | Danger Room | Wired.com
13:12 Hackbat lol the Russians still hate Reagan
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13:29 Ponko .seen SpeedrunnerG55
13:29 BotSteve Ponko: I last saw speed_ponyG55 318.00 hours ago at 2012-01-13 07:29:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 13:29:37 UTC
13:29 Ponko hmm
13:37 angy morning P'ky
13:46 Ponko oh hey angy
13:47 angy how's Ponky land?
13:50 Ponko it's very sunny and the Pro Bowl is a stone throw away
13:50 Ponko (Ponktopia is part of hawaii formed by a volcanic eruption)
13:51 Ponko and spontaneous cooling causing land to form
13:51 Ponko anyway it's very good here
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13:58 tlockley morning
13:59 angy morning lovely islander
14:00 tlockley anything interesting planned today?
14:00 Ponko umm someone's gonna make toast.... idk
14:01 Ponko lol
14:01 tlockley toast sounds good. I may make some eggs and an english muffin
14:02 tlockley with some of these --> http://www.wolfermans.com
14:02 BotSteve Title: Wolferman's Famous English Muffins, Breakfast Breads and Bakery Gifts
14:02 Ponko mmmm bloody lovely tlockley
14:02 tlockley my personal favorite are the cinamon ones
14:03 angy you made muffin out of Ponkies?
14:03 tlockley yep and it was tasty
14:03 dbshortwave i may end up with a DS lite
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14:05 tlockley nice, what do you plan to do with it
14:05 tlockley morning mom
14:05 angy tiny things?
14:05 Ponko tlockley: i'm loving the idea of breakfast at your place
14:05 angy even if you're the breakfast?
14:07 dbshortwave i plan on putting fixing the shell of it
14:07 Ponko angy i doubt i'd be the breakfast
14:07 Ponko lol
14:08 JA12 geekstew with bits on top
14:08 angy he's an islander, be careful!
14:08 tlockley yah, i may succede from the union to start my own country
14:08 tlockley then procure nuclear armaments
14:09 Ponko nah he'll be fine if i wear a Jets Jersey or anything New York round his place he might eat me
14:09 tlockley i personally dont care, ites everyone else you have to be afraid of
14:10 angy all your other personalities?
14:11 tlockley yep
14:12 tlockley i have a football personality and a hockey personality
14:12 angy I'll deal with the hockey one :)
14:13 Ponko yeah BRUINS and Pats are tlockley
14:14 angy yay! fight!
14:14 * angy is watching TV at work today
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14:16 tlockley nice. Ponko, just wisht the bruins didnt suck so bad at the capitals a couple of days ago
14:16 angy I support Montréal Canadiens :)
14:16 NeWtoz Red Wings :)
14:16 tlockley i can accept that angy
14:16 Ponko yeah the team with the most NHL Championships
14:17 Ponko PENGUINS
14:17 angy greatm let's have beer some time, when I'll be in the US next time
14:17 tlockley hopefully then i can legally dring with you angy
14:18 angy we'll forge you a new ID
14:18 tlockley with TGGs ID printer
14:18 angy I got the same one, with the hollographic option, in the office next to mine
14:19 tlockley sweet
14:19 angy you are allowed to legally drink at least beer in france I'm sure
14:19 Ponko yeah at 16
14:19 tlockley im leagally alloud to drink anything i want everwhere but my home country
14:20 tlockley I turn 21 this coming November
14:20 angy junior islander :)
14:22 * angy wants payday
14:23 NeWtoz the candy bar or the board game?
14:23 angy corporate payday, money to spend!
14:24 NeWtoz my next one is 8 days away
14:24 tlockley i want govt websites to stop having idiotic unsecure password policies
14:24 angy I still have no idea when i'll be payed, if I'm payed this months
14:26 angy if I want to go see all the US friends, they better pay me soon
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14:51 Ponko that'll teach me for accidently hitting alt F4
14:53 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh6EXnZ-Yjg for those that see it yesterday here it isagain
14:53 BotSteve Title: Idiot Teacher (Willy Wonka) - YouTube
14:53 Ponko that didn't*
14:53 angy how on earth can you accidentally hit atl+F4?
14:55 * angy fondles Seroster
14:55 Seroster Hi hun
14:55 Seroster dr_jkl, sup?
14:55 Seroster CaptainNiobe, sup?
14:56 CaptainNiobe g'day Seroster, how are we today?
14:56 Seroster IWANT TO STAB PPL
14:56 tlockley yah alt+f4 is a stretch Command-Q… i do that all the time
14:56 angy so it's OK
14:57 CaptainNiobe lol... another rant?
14:57 CaptainNiobe just keep it pg13 this time, hey? :P *hugs Seroster*
14:57 Seroster Nah
14:57 Seroster I was discussing uncle toms cottage with my swedish teacher
14:57 angy Seroster: you should play terraria, there is stabbing sword
14:57 CaptainNiobe ?
14:58 angy if he's going to stab people, at least fo it virtually :)
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15:02 Ponko angy: i think it was because i thought i was on another page
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15:33 Druidic_Rifleman morning geeks
15:34 tonsofpcs yawn
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15:42 Druidic_Rifleman morning geeks
15:43 CaptainNiobe morning, Druidic_Rifleman :)
15:46 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIOOwhmkoLo i wanna do a TGG video set to this
15:46 BotSteve Title: Party Rock Anthem - LMFAO [OFFICIAL LYRICS] - YouTube
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16:13 Druidic_Rifleman Sigh star trek online is down
16:13 Druidic_Rifleman for maintance
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16:25 tonsofpcs it's ok, you can go back to pretending to be picard later.
16:31 wannabe1987 fuck Seroster
16:31 wannabe1987 just fucking woke up i don't need that bullshit
16:32 Ponko club tropicana drinks are freeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
16:32 wannabe1987 hi Ponko
16:32 Ponko hey
16:32 Druidic_Rifleman where do i put a formal request to have his opstatus pulled?
16:33 wannabe1987 pm BatSteve, i assume
16:33 Seroster What goes on in this room and what goes on in the nsfw room are two completely different things. Do not mix them.
16:33 wannabe1987 or facebook him
16:33 Druidic_Rifleman Yeah relibous discrimination happens NO where
16:33 Druidic_Rifleman and if youra bigot you don't deserve Op status
16:33 Seroster I didnt discriminate against anyone.
16:33 Druidic_Rifleman BS
16:34 Seroster I was merely asking questions about what she does, what she doesn't and why.
16:34 wannabe1987 he wasn't discriminating, druid.....
16:34 Seroster It's called a fucking debate.
16:34 wannabe1987 he was just pissing me off, thats all
16:34 Druidic_Rifleman It was rude
16:34 wannabe1987 its not a debate unless someones debating back
16:34 Seroster Perhaps, but not bigoted.
16:34 CaptainNiobe :nsfw does belong to sero. what goes on in there stays in there.
16:34 Seroster True, I wouldnt really call that a debate either, but it is more a debate than it is discrimination.
16:34 Seroster .define discrimination
16:34 BotSteve discrimination — noun: 1. a distinction; discernment, the act of discriminating, discerning, distinguishing, noting or perceiving differences between things, 2. The state of being discriminated, distinguished from, or set apart
16:34 Druidic_Rifleman i litterally Don't know What any one thought giving seroster OP status in here
16:35 wannabe1987 druid.  stop mixing the two channels.  noone has op over there
16:35 CaptainNiobe Druidic_Rifleman: op status in this channel has nothing to do with :nsfw, and vice versa.
16:35 Seroster As opposed to figuratively not knowing?
16:35 Druidic_Rifleman Still shouldn't have Op here if thats how he's gonna act
16:35 Seroster I wouldnt have asked that in here.
16:35 Seroster What goes on in there is supposed to stay in there. That is more or less the only rule in there.
16:37 Seroster If I was like "I hate women and black people" - yeah. That would have been slightly odd, and something that may warrant an invetsigation, but that is not what I did.
16:37 wannabe1987 you sure know how to ruin someones day....i just fucking woke up
16:37 wannabe1987 havent' even GOTTEN up yet
16:37 angy .cookie
16:37 BotSteve Here you go, angy, I baked you a gingerbread cookie!
16:37 angy have a cookie
16:37 wannabe1987 no
16:37 angy I even missed ><
16:37 Seroster Haven't got up at 10.30? The youth of today....
16:37 wannabe1987 CaptainNiobe: happy australia day
16:38 wannabe1987 its 11, actually....11:30 now
16:38 Seroster It's australiaday and nobody mentioned it so I can mess with them?
16:38 Seroster Crap.
16:38 CaptainNiobe thanks, wannabe1987, but that finished 2h 38m ago :D *hugs*
16:38 wannabe1987 i went to bed at 3:30....and i work 2-10
16:38 wannabe1987 i don't have a normal sleep schedule
16:42 tonsofpcs normal is overrateed
16:43 wannabe1987 i know, right?  who wants to get up at 6 or 8 am anyway....
16:43 wannabe1987 hope i don't have to work 6-2 on friday and can do 10-2 instead...i will not be awake at 6....
16:43 wannabe1987 or 5, really, to wake up and shit
16:44 * CaptainNiobe gets up whenever the hell she feels like it, usually depending on what time she went to bed
16:45 * angy gets up at 7:06
16:45 wannabe1987 yes, niobe, but do you have work to do?
16:45 wannabe1987 i do....
16:46 wannabe1987 also, i dno't want to work an 8 hour on friday, cuz then that'll be 6 days straight before i get a day off
16:46 wannabe1987 my house needs help....
16:46 CaptainNiobe hire a cleaning service?
16:46 wannabe1987 no....
16:46 wannabe1987 why would i do that?
16:47 CaptainNiobe because it will help yu maintain order and cleanliness in your house?
16:47 CaptainNiobe you* fail lol
16:47 Seroster CaptainNiobe, is a callgirld =)
16:47 wannabe1987 its really just the basement...i'm trying to delegate things to my housemates, but they don't see why its a big deal for there to be dog hair on the furniture.  then they wonder why i don't sit with them out in the living room
16:47 wannabe1987 um....dog hair!!!!
16:49 CaptainNiobe cleaning service! cleaning service! cleaning service!
16:49 CaptainNiobe :D
16:49 wannabe1987 she let the dog lay on the couch.
16:49 wannabe1987 i am a house keeper/cleaner for other people
16:49 wannabe1987 why would i hire a service thats gonna charge me out the ass?  i can't afford that!
16:50 CaptainNiobe my last cleaner hires a cleaner herself because she's bummed out cleaning all day, every day...
16:50 wannabe1987 never move into a place when you don't meet the housemates before hand.
16:52 angy and time to go, see ya!
16:52 wannabe1987 bye angy
16:52 wannabe1987 .cookie angy
16:52 BotSteve Here you go, angy, I baked you a lemon sugar cookie!
16:53 Druidic_Rifleman STO in 7 minutes
16:53 wannabe1987 is it back up?
16:55 Druidic_Rifleman should be soon
16:55 Druidic_Rifleman assuming PST is california time
16:55 wannabe1987 yes....it is
16:55 wannabe1987 and british columbia time :P
16:55 Druidic_Rifleman AND then the geek group will be closer to having our own fleet
16:57 Seroster Fleet of what?
16:57 Druidic_Rifleman ... you fail
16:59 Druidic_Rifleman I like how haas donated the lab a bunch of tooling to big for them to use
16:59 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder if they willsend a bigger Mill
17:00 Seroster For you to have a fleet you need to specify a fleet of what
17:01 Seroster Fleet of hobos? Fleet of cameras? Fleet of fleas? Fleet of cars? - if you do not specify you assume boats, but since I have yet to see a sailing section of tgg....
17:01 Druidic_Rifleman Star ships since it's star trek
17:02 electricguy yayy! i got a in Win BUC666 computer case :P
17:02 Seroster I know you are living in your own little world, but I have to inform you that star trek is what we call fiction.
17:03 * sndwrx snickers.
17:04 Seroster If you want to argue I can argue with you. Or you just tell me what kind of fleet you are talking about.
17:08 wannabe1987 i'm assuming a fleet of startrek ships....:P
17:10 wannabe1987 altho, why Druidic_Rifleman thinks we need one of them, i don't know...
17:10 Ponko hmm
17:11 Druidic_Rifleman it's a game and it's fun
17:11 Seroster To use the enviromental systems from the ship as ac in the building. obviously.
17:12 wannabe1987 lol
17:12 wannabe1987 can we use it as heat too?
17:12 wannabe1987 i know druid.
17:12 Ponko ship what ship?
17:12 wannabe1987 startrek ships
17:13 Ponko ah ok
17:13 Ponko thought you were gonna say cruise ship
17:13 wannabe1987 no, those tip over if you have an asshole captain
17:13 Ponko yep they do
17:17 wannabe1987 oooo today is michigan's 175th birthday.  and they say we're not doing "too bad"
17:18 sndwrx .wx 49546
17:19 wannabe1987 .weather kgrr
17:19 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 35.6℉ (2℃), 29.85in (1007mb), Mist, Light breeze 6kt (↑) - KGRR, 16:53Z
17:19 wannabe1987 mist?
17:19 wannabe1987 theres no mist here ....:D
17:19 sndwrx Yeah but you're in Grandville.
17:19 BotSteve IOError: [Errno socket error] [Errno 110] Connection timed out (file "/usr/lib64/python2.7/socket.py", line 571, in create_connection)
17:19 wannabe1987 ish.  or hudsonville....as my address states
17:20 wannabe1987 BotSteve!
17:20 BotSteve wannabe1987!
17:20 sndwrx At any rate, that station is at the airport.
17:20 wannabe1987 yes, i know
17:20 wannabe1987 if the jenison airport had a weather station i'd use it
17:21 sndwrx Well you're 15-20 miles from that weather station so I wouldn't expect it to be entirely accurate.  :P
17:21 wannabe1987 .tfw 49426
17:21 BotSteve 35 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Hudsonville, MI!  'Call your local travel agency and ask them if they're serious.'
17:21 wannabe1987 there
17:21 einball Oh well
17:21 einball They just passed ACTA
17:22 einball the great brother of SOPA
17:22 sndwrx Right, but that one doesn't show the conditions.  Only the temperature.
17:22 einball Fuck it.There's no freedom anymore. not even on the internet
17:23 sndwrx Where are you einball ?
17:23 wannabe1987 germany
17:23 CaptainNiobe i believe conversation on acta goes in :controversial, einball... mom tossed roadran422 that way earlier when he brought it up, so...
17:23 einball There's no conversation on that.
17:23 einball Not even argumentation
17:24 einball It's another cage in a raleady caged world.
17:24 sndwrx I thought there was a .wx command for BotSteve.
17:24 wannabe1987 i don't know....
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17:25 wannabe1987 hi philip!
17:25 wannabe1987 i so wanna go to the auto show.....
17:25 wannabe1987 but the only "free" time i have is friday after supper
17:25 sndwrx Hopefully it's gotten better over the years.
17:26 sndwrx The show in Grand Rapids has always bored me.
17:26 wannabe1987 went last year
17:26 wannabe1987 you could drive cars
17:26 wannabe1987 incl camero
17:26 wannabe1987 camaro?
17:26 wannabe1987 i dunno
17:26 sndwrx Camaro.
17:26 wannabe1987 thanks
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17:27 sndwrx I've been fortunate enough to drive a lot of cool cars.  I'm not really very interested in that.
17:28 sndwrx Especially with thousands of schmucks standing around watching you.
17:28 wannabe1987 no, there weren't people watching...
17:28 sndwrx I want to see some nice displays and custom work, some concept vehicles.
17:28 wannabe1987 i want to afford getting in the door!
17:38 wannabe1987 http://thegeekgroup.org/forums/topic/calling-all-geeks/  i don't have funds for this, maybe you do.....help out tgg!
17:38 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Topic: Calling all Geeks!
17:40 sndwrx I don't have any money.
17:40 sndwrx I only recently submit my first invoice to the library.
17:41 sndwrx And it's only a partial invoice.
17:41 wannabe1987 i know you don't.  ist ok
17:42 wannabe1987 where you gonna work next after the library?
17:43 sndwrx I have some personal projects that need attention.
17:43 dbshortwave o.o
17:43 sndwrx I'm spread pretty thin right now.
17:43 sndwrx I still have a fair amount to accomplish at the library, anyway, and I'm teaching at least two more classes there.
17:43 wannabe1987 ah.  that works
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17:44 wannabe1987 cool
17:44 sndwrx Classes are going to become a regular thing in the near future.
17:44 dbshortwave so thats the stain i see covering Mich..
17:44 wannabe1987 i didn't know you were teaching classes
17:44 sndwrx Plus, I was just appointed an official member of the Board of Directors for the local reading council.
17:44 wannabe1987 what kind of classes?
17:44 dbshortwave KIDDING!
17:45 sndwrx Right now I'm instructing classes on how to use your e-reader device to download audiobooks and e-books from the library.
17:46 sndwrx In the future we're going to have basic computing courses, social media, etc.
17:46 tonsofpcs sndwrx: cool.  I have a friend that does that in NY
17:46 wannabe1987 interesting.  i have the kindle app on my pc....does it work the same?
17:46 sndwrx tonsofpcs: Yeah we were talking about that a few days ago, along with tlockley, I think.  The conversation swayed toward the advertising platform that I took interest in?  :)
17:46 tonsofpcs she has like 2 classes a day I think.  Everything from "here's a computer" to "zomg ipad kindle app tie to facebook"
17:47 sndwrx wannabe1987: Yeah you can check books out using the kindle app.
17:47 * tonsofpcs wasn't part of that conversation, I don't think
17:47 wannabe1987 cool
17:47 sndwrx You had mentioned some kind of broadcast protocol, ummm...
17:48 sndwrx Crap, I need to organize my bookmarks.  I can't find it now.
17:49 sndwrx wannabe1987: Actually, I find the Kindle method to be the easiest.
17:49 wannabe1987 http://www.mlive.com/entertainment/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2012/01/michigan_international_auto_sh_3.html
17:49 BotSteve Title: Michigan International Auto Show features surreal wheels (photos) | MLive.com
17:49 wannabe1987 kindle method vs?
17:50 sndwrx Versus Adobe Digital Editions, primarily.
17:50 tlockley sndwrx: did you ever get to tuse concerto?
17:50 tlockley *to use
17:50 wannabe1987 ah
17:50 sndwrx tlockley: I haven't had the time yet.  :(
17:51 tlockley ah
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17:52 sndwrx But soon I'll be helping choose a digital sign of some sort for the library, and I hope to find one that could be used as a display extension of Concerto.
17:52 sndwrx I really, really like what I've seen of Concerto so far.
17:52 tlockley the part is the the best is that anyone can submit content to the service and then it can be approved for display all using the website
17:53 tonsofpcs concerto?
17:53 sndwrx Right.
17:53 tlockley yep
17:53 tonsofpcs sndwrx: what kind of digital sign? a TV set type or a (scrolling) LED type?
17:53 sndwrx That will make it really easy for the staff to submit content updates.
17:53 sndwrx Like a tv type.
17:53 tlockley tonsofpcs: it is designed to work with any tv/computer display
17:54 sndwrx Unfortunately, I know very little about digital signage on that scale.
17:54 tlockley and you just run a thinclient that displays a webpage
17:54 tonsofpcs ah
17:54 sndwrx But if I can find an LED screen that can accept VGA input, I should be all set.
17:55 tlockley concerto also can display different content groups on different clients as each client is registered by their MAC address
17:55 sndwrx Yep.
17:55 sndwrx That's why I like it.
17:55 tonsofpcs my college had "TV"s that had a tuner in them and a data connection.  Tuner would be controlled over the data connection and there could be a live TV channel displayed along with all of the visual slideshow type data being pushed
17:55 tonsofpcs so they usually had a split like [-|  ], top-left was TV, bottom left was weather slideshow, right side was "stuff happening"
17:56 sndwrx I can have different displays on the sign, in the lobby, and near the public computing area.
17:56 tonsofpcs no clue what platform it was, sorry
17:56 tlockley tonsofpcs: concerto does the same thing but with HTML/JS
17:56 tlockley though if you were tricky enough you could put a straming player in one of the locations
17:57 tonsofpcs well, it may have been concerto idk.
17:58 tonsofpcs I'm pretty sure the monitors had thin clients in them.  Coonnections were RJ45 and coax (which was obviously just cable)
17:58 tlockley tuner card?
17:58 tonsofpcs some sort of overlay, idk
17:58 tlockley well w/e
17:58 tonsofpcs it was an all-in-one device, looked just like a 30-40" LCD TV...
17:59 tlockley interesting
17:59 tlockley sounds custom
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18:00 sndwrx tlockley: I think Concerto supports flash now, so it may be possible to use a stream rather than for instance a YouTube file...
18:00 tonsofpcs tlockley: well, there were a ton of them all over...
18:00 wannabe1987 hi Electronics
18:00 tonsofpcs I'll be up there on Feb 17 and if someone reminds me, I can look and/or ask around
18:01 sndwrx Hey that would be cool.
18:01 tlockley sndwrx: i dont think it was ever a flash issue for the server but the thinos was linux so it may not have included flashplayer
18:01 sndwrx I'd be interested to know what they're using, tonsofpcs.
18:01 sndwrx Ah, okay.
18:01 tonsofpcs I mean, this is a large-scale deployment, across a college campus and probably extended to remote sites
18:01 Electronics heya
18:01 sndwrx tonsofpcs: So is Concerto.
18:01 sndwrx I think 60+ displays, I may have read?
18:02 sndwrx I know it was quite a few.
18:02 sndwrx And they even have a screen saver that students/faculty can install on their computers to view the display, haha.
18:02 tlockley well forcing it on faculty doesent seem like a bad idea
18:03 tlockley having students install it could be hard
18:05 tonsofpcs "can"
18:08 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/QVgDO <- its alive!
18:08 BotSteve Title: jfetinlateralout - Imgur
18:09 tlockley now all it needs is a box
18:09 tlockley and stickers
18:09 tlockley stickers make everything sound louder
18:09 tlockley or better
18:10 Experimentonomen i dont have a box that will fit these heatsinks, and i dont have the tools to make a box around it
18:10 tlockley do you have friends with tools?
18:10 tonsofpcs tlockley: a sticker that renumbers the dial to 11, obv.
18:10 Experimentonomen no
18:11 tlockley bummer. tonsofpcs: totally
18:11 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: send it to me and I'll um... make a box for it... yea... right before I install it in my kitchen :-p
18:12 tonsofpcs seriously though, go to electrical supply houses and/or auto parts stores with box dimensions, you should be able to find a suitable premade metal (or plastic) enclosure
18:12 Experimentonomen premade boxes are friggin expensive
18:13 tlockley Experimentonomen: you in the US?
18:13 Experimentonomen nope
18:14 Experimentonomen not even close
18:14 wannabe1987 why can't anything just work properly?  do what i want it to do when i want it to do it.  don't go off doing other shit
18:14 tlockley is there a hardware/home repair/diy store nearby?
18:14 Experimentonomen nope
18:14 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: they are? really?
18:14 Experimentonomen i need sheet metal shears, sheet metal bender and such
18:15 wannabe1987 you need....the geek group!
18:15 tonsofpcs sheet metal bender == two 2x4s.
18:15 tonsofpcs (and maybe a clamp or two)
18:15 tonsofpcs (a boot works too though)
18:16 wannabe1987 my cb disappeared and now i won't be able to finish it before going to work
18:19 tonsofpcs so, I'm at the parents house cleaning out my old room, and I found....
18:20 wannabe1987 what did you find?
18:20 tonsofpcs No Credit Card Required!  New! AOL 9.0 Optiimized!  1175 Hours Free!  For 50 DAYS  see back for details  Surf up to 5X FASTER!*  Even Without a High-Speed Connection
18:20 tonsofpcs so, who wants to play frisbee?
18:20 wannabe1987 ....
18:20 wannabe1987 lol
18:21 wannabe1987 stick it in the microwave
18:21 wannabe1987 and what the heck is a "blue cherry"?
18:21 tonsofpcs it's a company
18:21 wannabe1987 i figured that
18:22 tonsofpcs they make security products (I think they make PC cards to make DVRs for security cams)
18:23 wannabe1987 and whats a merchant marine?
18:23 azop www.bluecherrydvr.com
18:26 wannabe1987 websites don't help, they're normally too technical
18:28 wannabe1987 lol boden can get mckillington to shut up.  thats totally aweseom.  kid is really annoying
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18:30 wannabe1987 hi psi
18:31 yNos so how is everyone today?
18:31 Experimentonomen g'day Pounds per Square Inch ;)
18:31 wannabe1987 getting ready for work.  you?
18:32 yNos bah
18:32 yNos have been in a meeting since 5am!?!?!
18:32 yNos WHY
18:32 wannabe1987 i wasn't awake then....i went to bed at 3:30a
18:32 * Experimentonomen gives yNos a bag of cookies
18:32 wannabe1987 who schedules meetings for 5am?!
18:33 yNos people in CET
18:33 wannabe1987 cet?
18:33 yNos .t cet
18:33 BotSteve Thu, 26 Jan 2012 19:33:11 CET
18:33 yNos Central European Time
18:33 wannabe1987 ah
18:34 wannabe1987 while boden and ynos keep talking, i should get ready for work
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18:38 yNos boden?
18:38 yNos eh?
18:41 wannabe1987 1-20-12 vid
18:41 wannabe1987 i'm behind
18:42 wannabe1987 aw shoot.  i forgot to turn in my time slips.  iwish everything was done online....nothaving to waste gas to be at a place for 2 mminutes turning something in.  maybe tomorrow!
18:42 wannabe1987 gotta go to work now
18:42 wannabe1987 bbl
18:42 wannabe1987 grandma survived surgery
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18:50 yNos meh
18:52 * RageRiot|afk is now auto-away after 1h idle
18:56 yNos looking to burn my face off with some epic music.
18:56 yNos something different.
18:56 yNos now accepting links
19:02 yNos nobody wants to talk to me
19:02 * yNos sadface
19:02 * yNos weeps
19:03 * yNos wants attention
19:03 yNos i shouldnt mock people.
19:03 dbshortwave dont feel so bad
19:03 dbshortwave lol
19:04 yNos so how are things going?
19:04 yNos i am waiting for a system to update...
19:04 dbshortwave thcant complain
19:04 dbshortwave im trying to remember what i did with a cable splitter
19:04 tlockley|mobile yNos: don't be too sad. I'm stuck in a meeting with a bunch of old men arguing about wind turbines
19:05 tlockley|mobile yNos: no one knows anything about what they want to do
19:05 yNos you could have been on a conf call with a bunch of self stated "non techinical" people who felt the need to argue data security.
19:05 dbshortwave lmao just old men fighting is funny in its own you should be entertained
19:06 tlockley|mobile There want to pass a $3M override to build it
19:06 dbshortwave sounds like congress yNos
19:06 Experimentonomen what does yNos's living room look like ?
19:06 yNos for sure
19:06 tlockley|mobile Lol
19:06 tlockley|mobile I wish.
19:06 yNos my living room?
19:06 yNos cluttered, but clean.
19:07 yNos she has a lot more shit in there than i like.
19:07 yNos my basement is "the collection"
19:07 tlockley|mobile Bbl
19:07 yNos of bits cards, boxes and a couple racks on wheels..
19:08 yNos tlockley|mobile: do you make turbines?
19:08 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/4LXD4.jpg <-- and thats on a good day
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19:08 yNos Experimentonomen: the shit on the floor would bug the crap out of me.
19:09 yNos are the big blue caps in the back hooked to your nipple/anus clips?
19:09 yNos ohmy
19:09 yNos nsfw
19:10 dbshortwave HAHAHHAHA
19:10 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/PJCqO.jpg <-- and thats my lab
19:10 yNos that is what my bench looks like right now.
19:10 yNos only with more drawer tray things on the wall..
19:13 Experimentonomen yNos, got pics ? :P
19:13 tlockley|mobile yNos: no, but I'm doing my due diligence as a community member as the project is going to be astronomically expensive and the proposed capacities are completely out of scale with reality
19:14 yNos ummm... lmc
19:15 JA12 http://www.pasteall.org/pic/show.php?id=25106
19:16 dbshortwave never gave this a thought... hmmm i have a chizzle tip this gives me ideas ill have to sharpen i and make it nice and flat like that http://youtu.be/5uiroWBkdFY
19:16 BotSteve Title: Professional SMT Soldering: Hand Soldering Techniques - Surface Mount - YouTube
19:19 JA12 should work with chisel and bevel tips
19:20 yNos Nop.. doesnt look like i have any pics of my deskk...
19:20 * Experimentonomen listens to loud animusic
19:20 tlockley|mobile Bummer
19:23 * yNos listens to skrillex
19:27 * tlockley|mobile listens to old men
19:27 JA12 dbshortwave: if by sharpening you mean reshaping the tip, I wouldn't recommend that
19:28 yNos my mood right now.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ylVRGttEW4&amp;feature=autoplay&amp;list=PLB0E3881357403336&amp;lf=results_main&amp;playnext=6
19:28 BotSteve Title: SKRILLEX - KILL EVERYBODY (BARE NOIZE REMIX) - YouTube
19:30 tlockley|mobile ^
19:31 azop yNos: did you get everything working on the second install?
19:31 yNos yup
19:31 yNos thanks again for the help
19:31 azop okay
19:31 azop no problem
19:31 yNos now they are working on dumping cameras into it.
19:31 yNos my plan tonight is to see if i can get the repeater working ;)
19:31 LemLap sigh
19:32 LemLap so sick of not being able to use my office >_<
19:32 LemLap considering setting up my pc on the dining room table
19:32 Experimentonomen hm
19:32 JA12 oh wow
19:32 JA12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO8JwdLRZBY
19:32 Experimentonomen LemLap, serious flood damage ?
19:33 yNos JA12: its blocked.
19:33 * Experimentonomen gives LemLap a few dehumidifyers
19:33 JA12 yNos: that's what I mean
19:33 JA12 yNos: first time I see they're fighting who owns the copyright =)
19:34 sndwrx yNos or anyone familiar with bash scripting?
19:37 yNos I've done it once or twice
19:37 yNos i prefer ksh
19:37 yNos but can bash
19:37 sndwrx I'm sure this will be easy to anyone more familiar than I.
19:37 yNos alrite
19:37 yNos shoot
19:38 sndwrx I have a script with an if else statement.
19:38 dbshortwave not so much reshape but to give it more of a chizzle shape give it a flat bottom..
19:38 sndwrx In the if statement, it may find "No results"
19:38 sndwrx If it receives the no results, it spits that out.
19:38 yNos your result would be ""
19:38 yNos null
19:38 yNos nothing.
19:38 yNos right?
19:38 sndwrx If not, it moves to the else and proceeds with spitting out that relevent data
19:38 sndwrx No, that part works.
19:39 sndwrx Except
19:39 sndwrx It repeats "No results" over and over haha.
19:39 yNos i dont think that is from test.. that is from something else?
19:39 sndwrx I've tried 'fi', 'end' and 'done' at the end of the if statement, and that didn't work.  Obviously I don't know /that/ much about scripting.
19:39 yNos post it somewhere.
19:40 sndwrx k
19:40 yNos and if you can run it with set -vx in the beginneing... post that to
19:40 yNos hrm.. does bash have set -vx?
19:41 yNos http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/sect_02_03.html
19:41 BotSteve Title: Debugging Bash scripts
19:41 sndwrx oh.  Actually.  It isn't a problem of the script.
19:42 sndwrx It's breaking somewhere when TinyFugue takes the output.
19:42 sndwrx huh.
19:42 JA12 yNos: this is what I was looking for http://grooveshark.com/s/In+Pieces+Xilent+Remix+/48Bbq7?src=5
19:42 BotSteve Title: In Pieces (Xilent Remix) by J Majik & Wickaman ft. Dee Freer on In Pieces - Free Music Streaming, Online Music, Videos - Grooveshark
19:43 sndwrx So, I can fix that by altering the regex to only trigger off numeric input, but that still leaves the possibility of breaking when it's a bad zip code.
19:43 sndwrx hm.
19:44 yNos then check the zip code...
19:44 sndwrx Right.  I'll have to have something check that it's a valid zip code.
19:45 sndwrx But, the script does that already and returns "No results".
19:45 yNos http://www.555us.com/555mi/555mi_zipcodes.htm
19:45 BotSteve Title: 555MI -- Michigan ZIP Codes
19:45 sndwrx Which is fine, but TinyFugue feels the need to repeat that output infinitly.
19:47 yNos dont know how to help you there..
19:48 yNos i dont mud
19:48 yNos or moo
19:48 yNos i've cleaned my share of moo mud though...
19:48 yNos but that is a different kinda thing completely
19:49 yNos GRRR
19:50 yNos you should not be able to link to a link to a link.
19:51 sndwrx I'm not mudding or mooing, or mucking or mushing.  :P
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19:51 yNos isnt tinyfuge a mud server?
19:51 sndwrx No.
19:51 sndwrx It's a telnet client.
19:51 yNos ah
19:51 sndwrx You can connect to MUDs, etc, using it.
19:52 yNos because it is... telnet
19:52 sndwrx Right.
19:52 yNos i have only heard it in context with MUDs
19:52 roadran422|SCL Hey all!
19:53 yNos yo
19:53 * Experimentonomen is still playing loud animusic
19:53 roadran422 Anything new?
19:54 yNos no
19:54 roadran422 Ah ok
19:54 Experimentonomen roadran422, livened up the amp today: http://i.imgur.com/uEp0M.jpg
19:54 roadran422 Damn.... How loud can it go?
19:55 roadran422 What are the inputs and outputs?
19:55 Experimentonomen atm its loud enuf that its hurting my ears
19:55 roadran422 Why was that needed.... xD
19:55 Experimentonomen and its been that way for the past hour
19:55 roadran422 Haha
19:56 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/XSIEd.png <- schematic
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19:56 roadran422 O_O
19:56 roadran422 xD
19:57 mashpriborintorg hi
19:57 roadran422 Hey mashpriborintorg
19:57 Experimentonomen g'day mash
19:57 injektion When did Citrix release a free version of XenApp?
19:59 mashpriborintorg yay I received my "for parts" Sony broadcast camera DXC-537P 3 ccd camera head + PVV1-1P vcr + DXF-601CE viewvinder, all that for 35 euros
20:00 mashpriborintorg the viewfinder is in almost new condition and will go onto an other camera
20:01 mashpriborintorg the other elements are been over-tinkered, but does still look good after a good clean
20:02 mashpriborintorg it's damn big and heavy, great stuff :p
20:02 Experimentonomen and records on to VHS tapes ? :P
20:03 mashpriborintorg Betamax SP
20:04 Experimentonomen roadran422 why O_O ?
20:05 mashpriborintorg it looks like this in the dockable VCR, quite similar model opened up here: http://www.oldvcr.tv/collection/index.html?Mode=View&amp;Brand=Sony&amp;Model=BVV-5
20:05 BotSteve Title: Sony BVV-5 - Video Equipment Collection - oldvcr
20:07 roadran422 Because I can't read it Experimentonomen
20:08 Experimentonomen hm
20:08 sndwrx injektion: It's only a trial, isn't it?
20:08 roadran422 ...
20:11 Experimentonomen roadran422 is a noob :P noob noob noob!! :P
20:11 roadran422 I can read some of it..
20:11 roadran422 I see a few 1.5k resistors, diodes are the triangles.
20:12 injektion No sndwrx it's limited and not a trial
20:12 roadran422 See some caps
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20:13 roadran422 Hi Staff_Infection?
20:13 roadran422 Don't kill me.
20:17 mashpriborintorg I hope the guy from Boltdepot will come here sometime soon, I have a question for him, I need oem japanese industrial standart screws
20:18 lwqsleepingbear im tired of people
20:18 astro73|alice so get off irc?\
20:18 BotSteve astronouth7303: I have the following messages for you:
20:18 BotSteve At 06:09Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell astronouth7303 http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/408885_259600314113748_100001913432759_679610_1531737276_n.jpg
20:18 lwq1996 i mean, mean people
20:19 astro73|alice BotSteve: tell wannabe1987 that I approve of this, but I doubt the girl would.
20:19 BotSteve astro73|alice: I'll pass that on when wannabe1987 is around.
20:19 lwq1996 fucking punk ass girls put gum in my hair
20:19 roadran422 Hahahha
20:19 astro73|alice we'll all tired of mean people
20:19 astro73|alice fortunately, i don't get many
20:19 roadran422 I would of just left it be. And then revenge!
20:20 roadran422 Or be nice, and just straight up talk ba
20:20 astro73|alice note to self: upgrade nerf guns
20:20 lwq1996 they're getting called into the office tomorrow
20:20 roadran422 That's good.
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20:23 yNos alrite.. omw to the lab.
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20:23 yNos later all
20:24 * yNos waves
20:24 SparkyProjects Hi Staff_Infection
20:24 roadran422 cya yNos
20:24 roadran422 This is what happens when you stick your hand in to a nerf gun barel and yank it out fast.
20:24 roadran422 http://i40.tinypic.com/k1wev9.jpg
20:26 roadran422 It sorta hurt.
20:26 roadran422 I've also got impetigo 2-3 times..
20:27 Experimentonomen noob! :P
20:27 roadran422 :P
20:27 roadran422 Impetigo is weird...
20:28 roadran422 Anyone on here ever have it?
20:33 roadran422 .w impetigo
20:33 BotSteve "Impetigo /ɪmpɨˈtaɪɡoʊ/ is a highly contagious bacterial skin infection most common among pre-school children." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impetigo
20:34 sndwrx injektion: How limited?  Can you link me?
20:35 injektion http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/subfeature.asp?contentID=2300436
20:35 BotSteve Title: Citrix Systems » Application virtualization and session virtualization for SMB
20:42 dbshortwave love the sound of a diesel http://youtu.be/TcbENS4BvkM
20:42 BotSteve Title: ice cold cummins cold start, bangs,pops,and smokes - YouTube
20:43 roadran422 If a diesel engine shoots smoke out the back, throw something at the exhaust to stop it right? (Make sure it sucks it in)
20:43 sndwrx injektion: Thanks
20:44 dbshortwave dunno
20:44 * n1mjf BitchX-1.1-final -- just do it.
20:44 roadran422 Oh....
20:44 roadran422 Well xD
20:45 Phu good evening.
20:45 Phu is that a batman I see?
20:45 roadran422 Hey Phu and what?
20:46 Phu on't live stream. Ther eis a batman-shaped figure doing something to something.
20:46 tlockley|meeting thats batman
20:46 mashpriborintorg he's taking apart the pile of robot guards
20:47 mashpriborintorg for saving the extruded aluminium rods
20:47 mashpriborintorg I guess he will not have finished by this evening :p
20:48 tlockley i think he needs a small army of people
20:53 Phu I need a second monitor on my linux box :(
20:53 Phu I think I just found a use for a donated DELL monitor.... :P
20:53 tlockley Phu, i need an AMD EyeFinity card and like 6 more monitors
20:54 Phu uh.... no habla senior.... come esta no moolah?
20:54 Phu (translation: sounds expensive... I ain't buying :P )
20:55 tlockley i figured
20:55 tlockley its very low on my list of stuff to buy
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21:31 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, *thomp**thomp**thomp**thomp* quite a bit of LFE there
21:31 Experimentonomen and it sounds like its only running one one cylinder too
21:36 dbshortwave i was thinking at first it was hitting on like, 3
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21:45 Experimentonomen dbshortwave, try this one with a large subwoofer ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS_dnFVYGpA
21:45 BotSteve Title: 50 hp Fairbainks Morse Y Diesel Cold Start - YouTube
21:53 Druidic_Sniper hmmm
21:58 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now http://www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | MEMBER BLOGS http://is.gd/tggblogs | "tonsofpcs: erm... why is #thegeekgroup talking about dicks and #TGG:NSFW talking about virtual machines?" WANTED: Dead and alive, Shr�dingers cat, for crimes against physics.
22:01 tonsofpcs he's in or not in the box over there, Seroster
22:01 tonsofpcs s/or/and/
22:02 tlockley tonsofpcs what the drill with the _/___/____ ?
22:02 tonsofpcs s/blah/otherblah/   << replace 'blah' with 'otherblah'
22:02 tlockley ah
22:03 tlockley figures
22:08 Monkeh tlockley: See: sed
22:08 tlockley i always though it was some for of regex-y thing
22:08 tlockley *sort
22:11 roadran422 Who can guess why there aren't canned sandwhiches?
22:12 Coderjoe but there are
22:12 roadran422 A full 1 foot sub
22:13 roadran422 If any can guess, they are a genious.
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22:15 roadran422 Sig...
22:15 roadran422 Sigh..
22:17 tlockley roadran422: http://markonefoods.com/
22:17 BotSteve Title: Candwich - The Go Anywhere Sandwich
22:17 tlockley i win
22:17 roadran422 Wtf.
22:17 roadran422 I was just going to say, "A women can't fit in it".
22:18 tlockley well...
22:18 * roadran422 runs.
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22:19 Toastdude Hello JOE248
22:19 BotSteve toastdude: I have the following messages for you:
22:19 BotSteve At 05:25Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell toastdude http://www.exploratorium.edu/ronh/solar_system/
22:19 roadran422 Hey JOE248
22:20 astro73|alice i can't believe i just wrote this. http://hastebin.com/covonasuye.dos
22:20 BotSteve Title: hastebin
22:20 JOE248 Greeting"s The Greek Group
22:20 tlockley astro73|alice: what do?
22:21 JOE248 HI roadran422 Toastdude
22:21 astro73|alice tlockley: looks for the network connections of agent.exe
22:21 astro73|alice except that I can't get the PID into a variable
22:21 tlockley :(
22:22 astro73|alice because windows shell scripting sucks balls.
22:22 tlockley powerscript
22:22 astro73|alice stock stuff only
22:22 astro73|alice if i could download things, I would just be using sysinternal's process explorer
22:22 tlockley true
22:24 astro73|alice also, i should look into making myself a sysinternals stick
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22:30 Coderjoe just make sure you comply with the license
22:30 astro73|alice what's that?
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22:33 Phu You may be a geek if: you use the CHS on a hard drive to work out its size (because HD manufacturers don't print this for some obscure reason), then write the size the drive is supposed to be on the drive using a sharpie, putting quotes around the size so that you know the size you've written down is the fake GBs (1,000,000,000 bytes).
22:34 roadran422 ...
22:34 Phu yes, I just did that for 5 hard drives.
22:34 Monkeh Phu: You may be a failed geek if you don't realise that 1,000,000,000 bytes is actually 1GB.
22:34 Phu no, it's not.
22:34 Phu 1GB = 1024 * 1024 * 1024 bytes.
22:34 Monkeh Yes, it is. Look up the SI prefix 'giga'
22:34 Phu I don't care.
22:34 astro73|alice Monkeh: we don't care what SI says on the matter
22:35 Monkeh astro73|alice: No point in a unified system of units if people can change the definition to suit them.
22:35 Phu you get a 1 billion byte drive and (overheads aside) fill it with a 1GB file. Watch the OS tell you the drive is too small.
22:35 astro73|alice actual usage trumps standards bodies. just ask w3c
22:35 Monkeh Phu: My OS will allow that because the file is actually 1GB, not 1GiB.
22:36 Phu 1G of RAM = 1024 ^ 3 bytes.
22:36 Phu so why is a hard drive different?
22:36 Monkeh Phu: Yes, they use the prefix incorrectly also..
22:36 Phu no they don't.
22:36 Phu they do that because binary works in powers of two,
22:36 Monkeh Is or is not giga an SI prefix?
22:37 astro73|alice Monkeh: by SI standards, everyone but HDD makers use kilo-, mega-, and giga- wrong.
22:37 Phu so a 1 billion byte RAM module would be a waste of memory cells.
22:37 Monkeh astro73|alice: Yep.
22:37 astro73|alice Monkeh: by computer standards, HDD makers get it wrong
22:37 Phu this is why data capacities are an exception to SI rules.
22:37 Monkeh astro73|alice: Computer 'standards' are wrong.
22:37 astro73|alice so was a whole lot of HTML for years and years
22:38 Monkeh Phu: This is why there are different prefixes which are used.
22:38 Phu yes. And I don't use those stupid prefixes.
22:38 Phu I grew up in the 80s, where we acknowledged powers of 1024, and nothing else.
22:39 Monkeh Phu: 'kilo' has meant 1000 since 1795. Sorry, that trumps your computer.
22:39 Phu 1K = 1024 bytes. There is no such thing as a KiB. 1M = 1024K, there is no such thing as a MiB, etc.
22:39 Phu it doesn't matter.
22:39 Phu the prefixes are merely BORROWED for the purposes of referencing magnitudes of capacity.
22:39 Phu Yes, GIGAbyte is not an SI measure. And it's not supposed to be. It supposed to be 1024 ^ 3.
22:40 Monkeh That's just an excuse to continue an incorrect trend.
22:40 Phu no, it's an acknowledge that data layout doesn't fit into a decimal world.
22:40 astro73|alice Monkeh: you're technically correct, but nobody but you cares.
22:40 Monkeh Phu: Which is why we have base 2 prefixes.
22:40 Monkeh astro73|alice: Some do.
22:41 Phu 1000 bytes = 192 bits of unaddressable memory on a bus that otherwise supports it.
22:41 tlockley Phu: GiB, MiB, KiB are both SI and COmputationally correct
22:41 Electricguy bedtime now! night night
22:41 roadran422 Night!
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22:41 Phu therefore, KILObyte is adjusted into the binary world to mean 1024 bytes, because this lines up better with binary layout.
22:41 Phu likewise MEGAbyte and GIGAbyte also line up better.
22:42 Phu So if you're going to do that for memory, you should do that same for hard drives so that the meaning is consistent.
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22:42 tlockley they do
22:42 Phu You're not going to convince RAM makers to make 128,000,000,000 byte memory modules. Ever. It's just too wasteful.
22:42 Monkeh Phu: I don't deny that a 1000GB HDD is annoying, but it's still 1000GB.
22:42 Monkeh Phu: If they want to make a 1000GiB HDD, I'll be happy to buy it.
22:43 Monkeh It'll still be a 1000GiB HDD.
22:43 Monkeh Not a 1000GB HDD.
22:43 Phu I expect a 1TB drive to be 1024 ^ 4 bytes. Not 1 * 10 ^ (3 * 4).
22:43 Monkeh I expect a 1TB drive to be 1TB, not 1TiB.
22:44 tlockley ^
22:44 Ponko heyall
22:44 Monkeh I expect 'kilo' to mean 1000 no matter where you use it.
22:44 Phu For me, there is no such thing as a 1,000,000,000,000 byte terabyte.
22:44 Phu monkeh: you're still trying to force a decimal system onto a binary machine. You can't do that.
22:44 Monkeh Then what would you call it?
22:44 Monkeh Phu: No, I'm NOT.
22:44 Phu you are.
22:44 Monkeh Phu: I'm trying to stop you forcing a binary number into a decimal prefix!
22:45 Phu giga is not a decimal prefix!
22:45 Phu giga is a MAGNITUDE prefix.
22:45 Coderjoe it is
22:45 Coderjoe it is a decimal-based prefix
22:45 tlockley http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SI_prefix
22:45 BotSteve Title: SI prefix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
22:45 Monkeh Phu: If it's 1,000,000,000,000 bytes, what prefix would you apply?
22:45 * BitViper is confused who is arguing for and against 1000 vs 1024
22:45 Ponko 1.21GIGAWATTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:45 Monkeh What prefix could you apply to bytes which indicates 1,000,000,000,000?
22:46 tlockley Monkeh and I are arguing for Decimal prefixes
22:46 Coderjoe 1.21 jiggawhuts?
22:46 Phu monkey: a 0.909 TB drive - or 931 GB.
22:46 Ponko WHAT THE HELL IS A GIGAWATT
22:46 BitViper imo when talking computer, ie memory, disk, bus, etc ... kilo, mega, etc [should] mean 1024 NOT 1000 ... unfortunately they dont always
22:46 Ponko lol i love that movie
22:46 Monkeh Phu: Okay, so I have 1,000,000,000,000 grams. What prefix do I apply?
22:46 Toastdude one billion watts...
22:47 Toastdude Terragrams?
22:47 Coderjoe additionally, still working with computers, 1 megabit is 1,000,000 bits
22:47 Ponko Toastdude: i do know
22:47 Phu monkeh: You have a planet? (*g*) that would be 1 Gg, because grams is a decimal system.
22:47 * Toastdude fails
22:47 Phu Tg even.
22:47 Toastdude Sorry ponko..
22:47 Phu Coderjoe: A 1 megabit ROM is 128K bytes, or 1048576 bits.
22:47 Ponko lol you just need to watch back to the future
22:48 Monkeh Phu: So it's 1 tera when it's grams but only 0.909 tera when it's bytes?
22:48 Monkeh Phu: In what world does this make logical sense?
22:48 Phu yes, because grams are a decimal system, bytes are a binary system.
22:48 Ponko ^^^
22:48 Coderjoe Phu: 1 megabit per second is 1,000,000 bits per second
22:49 Ponko Monkeh the guy coming up with the system WAS gonna make it logical................. then he took an arrow in the knee
22:50 Toastdude That's counting in base 10.
22:50 Ponko sorryi had to ease the tension
22:50 Coderjoe as much as I hate words like "mibibyte" and the like, I would rather use that than continue with this stupid confusion over 10^3 vs 2^10 (and up)
22:50 Phu I have to admit lines get blurry when dealing with bits. Memory capacities like to say 1048576 bits = 1Mbit, but speeds like to say 1000000 bitps = 1Mbps, and both kind of make sense for their respective uses. In the memory case, the term "megabit" is probably slightly inaccurate and is used in a "rounded" sense, like saying 1.13423 Kg is around 1Kg for brevity. So I'll give you that one.
22:51 Ponko .c 1.21gw to hp
22:51 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
22:51 Monkeh Phu: How about we just eliminate any form of confusion and use binary prefixes instead?
22:51 dbshortwave i think im going to buy that movie next
22:51 Ponko .c 1.21GW to horse power
22:51 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
22:51 Ponko dbshortwave: back to the future?
22:51 Phu because for me, decimal prefixes for data make no sense, as computers deal with powers of two. But if you want to do that, go right ahead ;)
22:51 dbshortwave no
22:51 dbshortwave Avatar
22:51 Monkeh Phu: ....
22:51 Ponko ahh right
22:51 Monkeh Phu: SO USE THE BINARY ONES!
22:51 Coderjoe <feh> 1.21 GW is approx. 1622636.728 horsepower.
22:52 Monkeh Phu: You cannot arbitrarily redefine a prefix based on the unit it's applied to or you lose any form of consistency, which defeats the whole purpose.
22:52 Ponko Phu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XhVLcc36Nk&amp;feature=related same thing could be said of that teacher
22:52 BotSteve Title: Wonka Percentages - YouTube
22:52 Phu why?
22:52 Ponko but then again that guy is an idiot lol
22:52 Phu computers deal in powers of two. Data capacities are used by computers.
22:53 Coderjoe binary computers deal in powers of two
22:53 Phu So where's the confusion? In my view, there is no need for decimal magnitudes when referring to data capacities.
22:53 Coderjoe leave my mechanical computers alone
22:53 Ponko Phu: ECU units deal with binary code too
22:53 Monkeh Phu: I know, I'm going to sell sugar but I'm going to redefine the kilo as 850 because I think sugar should be measured that way, so when you buy a kilogram of sugar it's 850 grams, not 1000.
22:53 Phu Coderjoe:  I'll grant you exceptions ;)
22:53 astro73|alice masterofmonks: do we have #tgg:holywars?
22:54 Phu monkeh: it's not a case of "i want to redefine it" it's a case that binary powers make sense with binary data, decimal powers do not.
22:54 Monkeh Phu: So use a binary prefix instead of redefining existing ones.
22:54 Ponko http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sFYSW6QHCQ&amp;feature=related Coderjoe computer like that and Phu did the binary make it say that lol
22:54 BotSteve Title: Willy Wonka Computer - YouTube
22:54 Phu we're going around in circles here :P
22:54 Monkeh Phu: You should not need to know what the unit is. If you are told kilo means 1000, that means 1000 of whatever unit it's prefixing.
22:54 Monkeh Phu: It doesn't matter what the unit is used for, you have 1000 of them.
22:55 Ponko Monkeh before decimalisation there was 138p to £1
22:55 Coderjoe Ponko: will you cut it out with the Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory video clips already?
22:55 Monkeh If you want 1024, you use the kibi prefix.
22:55 Ponko sorry
22:55 Phu I can see your logic, trust me on that one. If you take "mega" "giga" etc to be decimal magnitudes (as defined by SI, no doubt) then yes that would make sense.
22:56 Monkeh Phu: I do take them as decimal magnitudes as defined by the SI. Having multiple definitions is stupid.
22:56 Phu but what I'm saying is that in binary data sizes, decimal magnitudes don't make sense. In my view, only binary magnitudes make sense, therefore it should be obvious that if the prefix refers to a data capacity, it's not a decimal magnitude.
22:57 Monkeh Phu: The prefix always refers to a fixed multiple of the unit. That's the point.
22:57 Phu well it didn't... I mean the SI prefix may have done, but when geeks first started playing with computers in binary, they took the terms and adjusted them for the binary world.
22:57 Phu so the literal definite of kilo may well be 1000, but when it was first used for computers it was used to mean 1024 as it made more sense.
22:57 Monkeh I agree, only binary magnitudes make sense in this context, which is why we have appropriate prefixes
22:58 Monkeh Phu: Yes, and I argue that that use was improper and confusing.
22:58 * roadran422 derp.
22:58 Phu yes, but I'm saying the decimal prefixes have no use, so what's the point of having two prefixes when one is never used?
22:58 Monkeh And should be corrected
22:58 Monkeh Phu: 'Kilo means 1000. Except here, here, here, there, oh, and probably this.'
22:58 Phu to use the SI vernacular for a moment, what is the point of "gigabytes" and "gibibytes" if memory is only sold in "gibibytes" ?
22:58 Coderjoe I mean, in the last 2 days, you've pasted those links 16 times
22:59 Ponko yeah i got the point
22:59 * Monkeh goes back to Deus Ex
22:59 Phu and seeing as "gibi" (I'm assuing that the right term, I never looked it up) was created to satisfy this argument, I vote that the difference is scrapped and we just use "giga".
23:00 roadran422 Game play for deus was fun
23:00 Ponko boss fights weren't
23:00 Phu anyways... agree to disagree on this I think before it gets unfriendly ;)
23:00 Monkeh Ponko: kibi mebi gibi tebi pebi exbi zebi yobi.
23:01 Monkeh .. Damn cold hands
23:01 Monkeh Eh, you both know who that was meant for
23:01 roadran422 xD
23:01 Ponko Phu lol
23:02 Ponko we brits are great for pulling a fight out of nothing
23:02 Phu ok, whichever way you swing it, there isn't a snowflake's change in a supernova that I'm walking into a shop and asking for a 1 tebibyte hard drive :P
23:02 Phu chance even
23:02 Monkeh Phu: Yes, because they don't currently make them. ;)
23:03 sndwrx http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;v=pw8PpYBiDsc
23:03 Phu I know this!
23:03 BotSteve Title: Gorillaz - Feel Good Inc ft. De La Soul - YouTube
23:03 sndwrx hmm.
23:03 Phu I'm not getting in the argument again!
23:03 Monkeh Asking for a 1 terabyte drive is correct. Asking for 1 gigabyte of RAM, however, is not. ;)
23:03 Monkeh :)
23:03 sndwrx He handles YouTube URLs better than mine does.  ;)
23:03 Ponko sndwrx: good song
23:03 Phu ok, lemme rephrase. There isn't a .... and asking for a 1.073741824 Gigabyte memory module :P
23:04 Monkeh Phu: I may do that just to see if the guy understands. :P
23:05 Phu Monkeh:  please let me be there with a camcorder when you do that ;)
23:05 Ponko why am i waiting for things to suddenly kick off
23:05 Ponko oh to be a Lutonian...
23:05 Seroster When I pay for a 1tb drive I want a thousand gigabytes.
23:06 Seroster Because one terra is a thousand giga.
23:06 Ponko Seroster: nope not in binary and that's what phu is saying
23:06 Seroster When you come to the point you have to make SI prefixes complicated you just forfitted your right to use a computer and should be shot at dawn,..
23:07 Seroster Well. Fuck binary. It says 1tb on the trive.
23:07 Ponko hmmm
23:07 Seroster Don't call it one terrabyte if it is not a thousand gigabytes.
23:07 Seroster Do not call it a gigabyte if it isnt a thousand megabytes.
23:07 Seroster Don't call it a megabyte if it isnt a thousand kilobytes
23:07 Phu Seroster:  not wanting to cause offence or anything, but we just had this discussion and I think the outcome was "agree to disagree" ;)
23:08 Seroster Don't call it a kilobyte if it's not a thousand bytes.
23:08 Seroster As for bits. Fuck it, you do whatever you want to with them.
23:08 Seroster Phu, No offence, but I just saw it ;)
23:08 astro73|alice what do they do with bits?
23:09 Seroster I dunno, probably holy magic.
23:09 Coderjoe Model Number:       ST31500341AS
23:09 Coderjoe device size with M = 1024*1024:     1430799 MBytes
23:09 Coderjoe device size with M = 1000*1000:     1500301 MBytes (1500 GB)
23:09 Seroster I suggest you have ten bits to the byte, but i want a thousand degrees on a circle and 10 hours in a day.
23:09 Coderjoe LBA48  user addressable sectors: 2930277168
23:10 Coderjoe Logical/Physical Sector size:           512 bytes
23:10 astro73|alice Seroster: the problem with decimal numbers is that there's huge differences in prefixes
23:10 sndwrx astro73|alice: Do you have a couple minutes?
23:10 Seroster If you have something that is in fact not ONE THOUSAND X you do not it 1 kilo X.
23:10 Coderjoe number of bytes: 1500301910016
23:10 Seroster You simply don't. Call it something else,
23:11 astro73|alice sndwrx: until i get a call. what's up?
23:11 sndwrx astro73|alice: PM please?
23:11 Ponko ok gonna watch James Bond maybe the madness will have ended by the time i get back
23:11 sndwrx Rather, "May I PM?"
23:12 Seroster "Instead of saying five I will be using twelve" < does that make sense to you? - Probably not since you are raised to assume that five means five, and nothing else. Don't call shit that isnt 12  12 and don't call stuff that isnt a thousand a thousand.
23:12 Seroster sndwrx, Just send a PM, if he doesnt want it he'll ignore you, or call you names. =>
23:12 * sndwrx snickers.
23:12 roadran422 ...
23:12 sndwrx I try to be polite.  :P
23:13 Seroster Screw politeness. Politeness is irrelevant.
23:13 sndwrx Doesn't bother me if people msg, so I usually take your suggested approach.  Some people don't like it unless they expect to receive one, though.
23:13 roadran422 What the hell is going on here?
23:13 Coderjoe the difference between  1T and 1Ti is 99511627776
23:14 Monkeh roadran422: Nerd arguments, don't get involved, you may get injured.
23:14 Seroster Thats what I learnt in this school. Politely saying "excuse me" and hoping people will move out of your way doesn't work. Screaming "ACHTUNG ACHTUNG RRRAAUS!" and then pretend like they are not there and walk straight into whoever doesnt move works great.
23:15 roadran422 Ok. In school people kept throwing things at me (It was a joke) I dropped on to the floor pretended I had a seuisure and in a high loud voice I yelled, "STOP BOMBARDING ME!"
23:15 roadran422 The teacher was ok with it.
23:16 Seroster '-'
23:16 Seroster I thought I was wierd...
23:16 roadran422 :)
23:16 roadran422 I'm the weird class clown hahahahaha
23:16 roadran422 I scream alot, I annoy with a high voice I can do.
23:16 Seroster Heh
23:17 Seroster So... ADHD?
23:17 roadran422 Not really...
23:17 roadran422 Everyone laughed xD
23:17 Seroster With you =/= at you
23:18 roadran422 What?
23:18 Coderjoe =/= is "not equal to"
23:18 roadran422 Hahahaha
23:18 roadran422 I'm not equal to my self?
23:19 MoxieMike another notation some of us may be more familiar with is !=
23:19 roadran422 ...
23:19 Coderjoe (something) factorial equals? :P
23:20 MoxieMike not equal to
23:20 Coderjoe I know that
23:20 Coderjoe hence the ":P"
23:20 MoxieMike :-Þ
23:20 Coderjoe oo ho. being all fancy and using thorn
23:20 Seroster I hate you for abusing greek letters.
23:20 astro73|alice you could use <> too, but someone might punch you
23:22 roadran422 Still. I'm the weirdo ;) xD
23:24 tonsofpcs !=
23:25 roadran422 roadran422~roadran422
23:25 roadran422 ~
23:25 roadran422 ~
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23:26 roadran422 Roadran422       Roadran422
23:26 roadran422 ~
23:26 roadran422 There :)
23:27 tonsofpcs hey, sndwrx, around?
23:27 tonsofpcs "Symon"
23:28 astro73|alice \\//
23:29 Seroster SparkyProjects, CaptainNiobe, sndwrx, goodnight
23:29 roadran422 Nighet Seroster
23:29 Seroster The rest of you... Börkbörkbörk.
23:29 roadran422 ?
23:30 SparkyProjects Night
23:30 sndwrx night Seroster
23:30 roadran422 Barkbarkbark?
23:30 Seroster .g börkbörkbörk
23:30 tonsofpcs sndwrx: http://www.symon.com/displays-symon-smartscreen.shtml
23:30 BotSteve Seroster: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Chef
23:30 BotSteve Title: Displays
23:30 sndwrx Ah, it's a display with a computer built-in.
23:31 tonsofpcs well, modular board tacked-on
23:31 sndwrx oh.
23:31 sndwrx Hm.
23:31 roadran422 What is that?
23:31 tonsofpcs http://www.symon.com/SDA705.shtml alternatively
23:31 BotSteve Title: SDA705
23:31 tonsofpcs tack-on boards in boxes, apparently
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23:32 tonsofpcs idk which ones specifically they use
23:32 tonsofpcs I just got "Symon" back from a friend
23:32 sndwrx haha "media player"
23:32 sndwrx It's a computer as far as I can see.
23:33 tonsofpcs right.
23:33 tonsofpcs it's a slightly-thin client or something
23:33 * sndwrx nods.
23:33 sndwrx I wanted to use a product like that for one of my touch screen kiosk installations.
23:33 roadran422 I'm lost xD
23:33 sndwrx Unfortunately I was limited to using the equipment provided.
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23:34 tonsofpcs sndwrx: get them to give you a demo...
23:35 tonsofpcs http://www.symon.com/contact.shtml
23:35 BotSteve Title: Solutions
23:35 * sndwrx nods.
23:35 sndwrx Good idea.
23:35 tonsofpcs (note: I have no clue where you are)
23:35 tonsofpcs and they definitely have more advanced solutions than they show there.
23:35 tonsofpcs (they have "Symon Gaming" in Vegas, for example)
23:36 tonsofpcs where are you?
23:37 sndwrx Michigan
23:37 sndwrx Grand Rapids, specifically.
23:37 tonsofpcs ah, ok
23:37 tonsofpcs Harris has digital signage products
23:37 tonsofpcs http://digitalsignage.harris.com/
23:37 BotSteve Title: Harris Corporation :: Digital Out-Of-Home Solutions
23:37 sndwrx That's what I've used in the past.
23:37 tonsofpcs idk where signage is based.  Perhaps Buffalo?  Perhaps Qunicy...
23:37 sndwrx Used Harris Infocasters tied to 32" and 40" Samsung displays.
23:38 sndwrx The Infocaster is a glorified Pegasus board (ASUS built) running dual-core Atom chip.
23:38 sndwrx And it's a wee bit overpriced in comparison.  :P
23:38 tonsofpcs welcome to harris.  Be happy you didn't have a linear power supply 3x the size of the product
23:39 sndwrx haha
23:39 sndwrx It was basically a laptop brick, nearly half the size of the machine.
23:40 sndwrx the machine itself was nice and small, approx 6"x6"x1".
23:43 tonsofpcs We used Scala software to do our weather slides for news @ school
23:46 sndwrx Cool, I'll check that out too.
23:55 tonsofpcs idk what they make for digital signage, we used an OLD product of theirs (amiga legacy they rebuilt for windows) that is basically a slideshow app

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