Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-02-10

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Time Nick Message
00:00 lwq1996 ugh, i shaved my peach fuss today and now my lip feels burnt
00:00 KawaiiJess lawl
00:01 KawaiiJess Oh peach fuzz... How I don't miss you
00:01 lwq1996 well im starting to grow mustach
00:02 lwq1996 and i shaved what i had off and ugh razor burn >.<
00:02 KawaiiJess Your grammar is scaring me
00:02 lwq1996 im tired but i have to stay up so i get a good night sleep tonight
00:16 * CaptainNiobe kills masterofmonks
00:16 masterofmonks See.
00:17 CaptainNiobe that really really really really sucks
00:18 HighMan|Hungry ...
00:18 HighMan|Hungry CaptainNiobe: ?
00:18 CaptainNiobe nvm
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00:32 Keknom Do any of you do battlebots?
00:32 BitViper make ? or watch ? I havent seen the show for years, didnt know they were still doing them
00:33 BitViper used to have some ideas for a couple bots
00:33 Keknom They do, I am a 15lb team
00:33 ^Prophet^ i love them... i wish they still aired the show
00:33 Keknom am ona *
00:33 ^Prophet^ nice
00:33 BitViper Keknom : cool, would be sweet if tgg could make one and participate
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00:33 Keknom Prophet most likely are some competitions in your arrea actually
00:33 BitViper call our bot The Keag !
00:33 Coderjoe I guess magnets are too low-tech now: http://www.weplaysports.com/Rawlings/Power-Balance/power_balance.html
00:33 Keknom I think 40 of the 50 states have highschool level teams
00:33 BotSteve Title: Rawlings Power Balance Wrist Strap - WePlay Sports
00:33 Keknom and  branches
00:34 ^Prophet^ all hail King of Diamonds!!!!!
00:34 Keknom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0ozZqthNjo&amp;feature=related
00:34 BotSteve Title: Aftershock vs. Grim Reaper-Finals - YouTube
00:36 lwq1996 nom nom nom food
00:37 Keknom aftershock is from my school's team
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00:48 Toastdude Hi
00:48 Keknom hello
00:48 lwq1996 TOASTDUDE
00:49 Toastdude LEE
00:49 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
00:49 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 3.18 hours ago at 2012-02-09 21:38:24 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:49:05 UTC
00:51 BitViper .seen azop
00:51 BotSteve BitViper: I last saw azop 312.95 hours ago at 2012-01-27 23:54:14 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:51:07 UTC
00:51 azop O_o
00:51 lwq1996 .seen hhrlisa
00:51 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw hhrlisa 16.90 hours ago at 2012-02-09 07:57:23 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:51:32 UTC
00:52 BitViper LOL azop, get an electric shock or something when youre mentioned ?
00:52 azop actually, yes.
00:52 azop it makes my phone vibrate
00:52 lwq1996 hey its curtis :P
00:52 BitViper ah ha, the ultimate internet tie in
00:52 azop hey it's people that know my name, but I don't know yours :|
00:52 lwq1996 im lee :P
00:53 BitViper scarry isnt it azop
00:53 azop hola
00:53 azop ja
00:53 * BitViper waves, but doesnt give out names in public, just call me bit
00:53 lwq1996 only reason i reconized you is because your computer restarted its connection or something and it said bluecherry and curt :P
00:53 azop ahh
00:53 BitViper i think you have had contact with one of my friends at least brieftly too curt, a small isp in arizona
00:53 azop 18:53 [freenode] -!- azop [~curt@lizard.bluecherry.net]
00:54 azop 18:53 [freenode] -!-  ircname  : Please give me a moment to entertain my fantasies
00:54 azop BitViper: whose that?
00:54 azop *who's
00:55 BitViper isp is IndCo, a cable/wifi isp, and my friend is ryan who was checking out a b/c card or two for their video transmutation stuff
00:55 azop ah
01:00 BitViper my bad arkansas, not arizona *facedesk*
01:01 azop ahh
01:04 KawaiiJess Am I just crazy, or does this local computer shop's logo looking strikingly similar to the Camino logo: http://hcsdatarecovery.com/index.html –– http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Camino_Logo.png
01:04 BotSteve Title: File:Camino Logo.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
01:04 Toastdude Druidic_Rifleman: Kelly said to get some sleep before tomorrow
01:04 Druidic_Rifleman I will on the bus
01:05 lwq1996 your taking a bus?
01:06 lwq1996 tomorrow im going to pants someone in my gym class >:3
01:07 lwq1996 i need migits
01:11 lwq1996 Druidic_Rifleman dont take any guys in case theres a annoying child on the bus that woulnt shut up so you dont do something stupid, and get some sleep in case that reason arises
01:13 jasperdett camera 1 on the feed needs to be fixed
01:14 eadthem pants = make out with  ???
01:16 BitViper eadthem : in context i think he means "to pull someone's pants down around their ankles"
01:19 lwq1996 yes :P
01:20 BitViper is a great reason to wear well atttached suspenders
01:21 lwq1996 in my gym class we have our own uniform with those sport short type shorts
01:21 BitViper ugh
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01:36 jorden what hapend to cam 1 on the live feed ?
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01:41 jorden hi all
01:45 eadthem whats cam 1
01:49 Toastdude We do too Lee..
01:52 yNos egrsteve|away: you around?
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01:56 yNos BotSteve: tell egrsteve|away is this what yours needs? http://www.batlabs.com/images/r100.gif from http://www.batlabs.com/r100.html
01:56 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
01:56 BotSteve Title: R100 Repeater
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01:58 astro73|vt hmmm... this seems acceptable
01:58 astro73|vt except that I have no mod keys...
02:00 eadthem ok  i know the libpng refrence program and example programs ive seen are    well documented
02:01 eadthem but 511 lines of coding for whats refferd to as a basic example of how to use libpng?????
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02:11 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: .. Seriously, 511 lines to what, read and render a png?
02:11 egrsteve|away ynos this is the real info on mu units http://www.batlabs.com/maxrad.html
02:11 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
02:11 BotSteve At 09 Feb 13:38Z, yNos asked me to tell egrsteve i forgot the noise gen at home :(
02:11 BotSteve At 01:56Z, yNos asked me to tell egrsteve is this what yours needs? http://www.batlabs.com/images/r100.gif from http://www.batlabs.com/r100.html
02:11 BotSteve Title: Maxtrac and Radius Mobiles
02:11 eadthem not render
02:11 eadthem just read
02:12 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: ....
02:12 Druidic_Rifleman hey steve
02:12 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: libpng_open() too simple for them?
02:12 eadthem i will be adding GTK to my program alredy using the panda3d graphics enging
02:12 Druidic_Rifleman leaving soon
02:12 eadthem gpixbuff ftw
02:13 egrsteve|away botsteve: tell ynos take a look at this link for more detailed info http://www.batlabs.com/maxrad.html
02:13 BotSteve egrsteve|away: I'll pass that on when ynos is around.
02:13 BotSteve Title: Maxtrac and Radius Mobiles
02:13 eadthem Monkeh yep
02:13 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|away: Yeah, I know Joe bought it in, figured you'd be able to ask him about it :P
02:14 egrsteve|away and I just saw him tonight but forgot about it
02:14 Monkeh|Lap It's not exactly urgent but I'd love something other than the crap I've got next time I'm soldering
02:14 eadthem GdkPixbuf *         gdk_pixbuf_new_from_file(const char *filename,GError **error);        gtk gets it right
02:14 Monkeh|Lap Burnt a hole straight through this mat the other day..
02:15 egrsteve|away monkeh if you have FB message him here: https://www.facebook.com/joethecarpenter
02:15 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve|away: I prefer to minimise my contact with farcebook.
02:16 egrsteve|away fair enough
02:16 egrsteve|away I will try to get his email then
02:16 Monkeh|Lap It's like Windows except I actually have a use for Windows.
02:16 yNos looks like we may need to find a manual for this beastie
02:16 BotSteve ynos: I have the following messages for you:
02:16 BotSteve At 02:13Z, egrsteve asked me to tell ynos take a look at this link for more detailed info http://www.batlabs.com/maxrad.html
02:16 yNos :D
02:16 yNos thanks BotSteve
02:16 BotSteve No problem, yNos
02:17 Ponko hmmm
02:17 Monkeh|Lap Evening yNos
02:17 yNos hallo
02:18 egrsteve|away ynos this link had much more info
02:18 Monkeh|Lap yNos: So how badly did you break the spare bluecherry box? :P
02:18 egrsteve|away and somewhere on that site is a RIB schematic
02:18 yNos the cars is pooched
02:18 yNos **card
02:18 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Slip with a screwdriver or too much walking around in wool socks?
02:19 yNos the programmer for this one is the one i linked..
02:19 yNos Monkeh|Lap: stoopidly made an extension cable so we can keep the cable mess up at the patch panel..
02:20 tonsofpcs hmm
02:20 Monkeh|Lap yNos: Pinout mishap?
02:20 tonsofpcs xplane for andrpid needs to allow inter-region flight....
02:20 yNos no, i doned it out.. the cable was 1:1 all the way through.. am thinking impedance or capacitance
02:20 yNos **toned
02:20 tonsofpcs got a time-domain reflectometer?
02:21 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I could use one of those in a big way right now.
02:21 egrsteve|away ynos the link you had was the RIB to radio cable
02:21 Monkeh|Lap azop: More robust cards needed. :P
02:21 tonsofpcs monkeh - i have one at work
02:21 yNos azop: dont give idiots fun toys
02:22 Monkeh|Lap yNos: This is why you can't have nice things
02:22 azop I'm still not sure *how* he broke it.
02:22 * yNos hangs head in shame
02:22 BitViper tgg needs a tektronix mdo4000 series scope
02:22 tonsofpcs mdo?
02:22 yNos and a network anylizer
02:22 Monkeh|Lap azop: I wouldn't have thought a simple extension cable could do much harm..
02:22 yNos spell fail
02:22 azop I wouldn't either, unless there was power to it
02:22 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Can I borrow it to beat BT over the head with?
02:23 tonsofpcs ynos . what sort of signals are you having issue with?
02:23 azop the card is still detected, it just can't access the video encoders
02:23 * yNos turns his head like a confused dog
02:23 BitViper tonsofpcs : watch and drool http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1oe45DP1_4
02:23 BotSteve Title: Quick 5 minute Tektronix Mixed Domain Oscilloscope MDO4000 Demo - YouTube
02:24 Monkeh|Lap azop: That makes me wonder if the cable is in any way related to the death.
02:25 egrsteve|away azod does the card have 16 encoders or does it use 4 encoders each with a 4x mux?
02:26 egrsteve|away *azop^
02:26 tonsofpcs ah! no lightup buttons on our digital sillyscope, only touchscreen and 4 ch of buttons...
02:28 tonsofpcs tds series maybe?
02:29 BitViper ? this is a brand new series, just released last fall, and cool as he**
02:30 tonsofpcs ive been playinG with an mts recently.  i need to get the pqa up and operating.
02:31 tonsofpcs i also should price the aes i/o uoption for our r&s audio analyzer
02:31 BitViper i havent had access to a scope of any sort since college back around '90 =(
02:32 * egrsteve should start saving for a good scope
02:32 egrsteve 300MHz should be fast enough
02:32 egrsteve 4  channel would be great, 2 would do
02:32 yNos i have 2 old ones in the basement.. one is a 30 mhz tek, the other one is a 100 mhz tek
02:32 tonsofpcs i havent needed a sillyscope since i had to check an AES eye abt 2 years back
02:32 yNos 2 channels
02:33 yNos the 30 mhz one out-weighs my 9 year old
02:33 BitViper lol
02:33 egrsteve that I can believe
02:33 egrsteve you move it with an engine hoist?
02:33 tonsofpcs egrsteve: you could modify some of the older wfm/vs combo units..
02:34 Toastdude Anyone here do CNC stuff?
02:34 egrsteve I could waveforms are basicly scopes with special triggering
02:34 tonsofpcs yNos: no testcart for it?
02:34 egrsteve a little toast
02:34 yNos testcart?
02:34 tonsofpcs the wfm+vs combo models are 2 channel with multiple trigger mode
02:34 Toastdude Okay. Can you write g-code?
02:34 tonsofpcs a
02:34 tonsofpcs *s
02:34 Toastdude Or at least understand it.
02:35 egrsteve it's been a while, I can generally interprit it
02:35 egrsteve I might need a cheat sheet for a few commands
02:35 yNos tonsofpcs: this is tube based.. cant remember model
02:35 Toastdude Okay.
02:35 Toastdude Heh, all I used was g0 and g91...
02:36 egrsteve g00, g01, g02 and g03 are rapid, linear, CW, CCW or are the arcs reveresed 91 is a coord system if I remember
02:37 egrsteve 91 I think is relative, 90 abs
02:37 egrsteve Toast what do you need to knwo
02:37 Toastdude Yep
02:38 Toastdude Well I wrote a program and need to see if it works... Although all I put was the motions; no spindle or feedrate
02:38 egrsteve then it probably won't do too much, depends on th machines interpriter
02:39 egrsteve also don't program cuts with g0
02:39 egrsteve thats a move as fast as the machine can command
02:39 egrsteve cuts should be 01, 02 or 03
02:39 Toastdude I didn't, only used that for above-material moving
02:40 egrsteve ok
02:40 Toastdude g91 is what I used for cutting
02:40 egrsteve 91 is a setup command not a motion cammand
02:40 egrsteve it sets the coordinate system to relative to previous position
02:40 Toastdude I thought it was a relative motion...
02:41 tonsofpcs yNos: your extension cable, what signalling was on it?
02:41 * exor674 eyes the time on the stream
02:41 tonsofpcs g-code = mc?
02:41 egrsteve so you could do G91; g01 x1; g01 y1; g01 x-1; g01 y-1 to cut a square or 1 unit square
02:42 egrsteve basicly
02:42 exor674 hah, the date's kinda off too, either this is OLD footage or that box needs a thwap
02:42 Toastdude Ah....
02:42 Toastdude Olny one g91 then?
02:42 yNos tonsofpcs: unbalanced video from the security cameras
02:43 tonsofpcs over 75 ohm coax?
02:43 egrsteve or g90; g01 x0 y0; g01 x1 y0; g01 x1 y1; g01 x0 y1; g01 x0 y0;
02:43 egrsteve also to cut the same square with abs coordinate locations
02:44 Toastdude Ah, okay. Thank you... I thought 91 and 90 were cutting...
02:45 egrsteve no they setup how motion is interprited
02:45 Toastdude Should I github it to see if it's correct?
02:45 Toastdude The revised program that is
02:45 egrsteve cut with g01, g02 and g03
02:46 Toastdude Now it makes sense...
02:46 Ponko http://www.photoblip.com/pictures/20892/find-your-birthday.html aparrently i did something NSFW with my ex
02:46 BotSteve Title: Find Your Birthday
02:46 egrsteve toast what machine are you programing for?
02:47 egrsteve depending on the machine different header commands may be needed to setup the machine and coordinate system
02:47 Toastdude None, just trying to learn gcode
02:47 egrsteve ah ok, so theoretical machine
02:48 Toastdude Yes
02:48 egrsteve a single line of code shoudl look something like this for most machines
02:48 Toastdude Just for the sake of learning
02:48 egrsteve G01 X1.000 Y2.000 F20
02:48 Toastdude f = feedrate?
02:49 egrsteve different machines requre different number formats too
02:49 egrsteve yes F is feedrate
02:49 tonsofpcs just because i wprk at a pbs sta dpesnt mean cookie monstyer has to be in my results.....
02:49 egrsteve sure it does, everyone likes cookies
02:49 egrsteve .cookie tonsofpcs
02:49 BotSteve Here you go, tonsofpcs, I baked you a molasses cookie!
02:49 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: COOKIE!
02:50 tonsofpcs egrsteve: but i shot him....
02:50 egrsteve so?
02:50 Toastdude What's a good feedrate for wood?
02:50 egrsteve depeneds on a lot of things
02:51 Monkeh|Lap Toastdude: Wood is one hell of a variable material. ;)
02:51 egrsteve type of wood, cutter type, cutter size, machine capabilities
02:51 Toastdude True..
02:51 egrsteve finnish required ect
02:52 tonsofpcs mind you, my netbook is inside a woot "the binge" tote....
02:52 egrsteve a smaller cutter will need to be spun faster
02:52 Toastdude Okay, is aluminum a less variable material?
02:52 Monkeh|Lap There's a hell of a difference between cheap pine and graded, let alone different woods.
02:52 egrsteve no, but we can assume 6061
02:52 egrsteve probably T6
02:53 egrsteve there is a TGG haas video on speeds and feeds with iscar rick
02:53 egrsteve you can learn a lot there
02:53 Toastdude I did watch it, but I wasn't thinking of actually doing anything with it.... *watches again*
02:54 egrsteve http://www.youtube.com/thegeekgroup#p/search/12/9VGSlJU53ng
02:54 BotSteve Title: thegeekgroup's Channel - YouTube
02:54 egrsteve there is a lot of good info there speeds and feeds boils down to surface footage
02:55 egrsteve and machine power
02:55 egrsteve and spindle speed range
02:55 Toastdude Ah, thanks
02:56 tonsofpcs haaaaaas programing?
02:56 egrsteve you basicly end up with a speed/feed ration that you need to find a spot that it works for your machine and tool being used
02:56 egrsteve CNC in general but it applies to haas machines
02:57 yNos hmm.. where is the forum search/
02:57 yNos ?
02:59 Ponko cnc? :P
02:59 Ponko Computerised NYAN Cat
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03:02 astro73|mal *beats head on desk*
03:03 astro73|mal Pound Y U NO PROXY RIGHT?
03:03 egrsteve no, but you could cut a nyan cat, you could even cut poptart if you wanted to
03:04 HighMan|BrB I KILL MYSELF. I DID A HALF AN HOUR POKEMON LEAGUE BATTLE 2 TIMES AND I ALMOST WIN AND GAME CRAPS OUT. WTF.
03:04 * HighMan|BrB Very Sad.
03:05 HighMan|Sleep Night.
03:08 HighMan|Sleep .log
03:08 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
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03:14 astro73|mal how hard is it to write an SSL unwrapper/reverse proxy?
03:16 SarahM ITS PARTY TIEM
03:16 SarahM very, astro
03:17 astro73|mal i was guessing that...
03:17 SarahM i wouldn't know how, so yes, hard :P
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03:19 HighMan|Sleep botsteve: tell HighMan|Sleep he needs to pack his hw up.. REMEMBER HIS PAGES AND NOTES. 5-ethyl-2,4,7-trimethyl-2,7-decadiene
03:19 BotSteve You can tell yourself that.
03:19 wannabe1987 i'll do it
03:19 HighMan|Sleep Thanks... Damn bot xD
03:19 HighMan|Sleep Night wannabe1987!
03:19 HighMan|Sleep And all!
03:19 wannabe1987 night
03:20 wannabe1987 botsteve: tell HighMan|Sleep he needs to pack his hw up.. REMEMBER HIS PAGES AND NOTES. 5-ethyl-2,4,7-trimethyl-2,7-decadiene
03:20 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when roadran422 is around.
03:21 Druidic_Rifleman wannabe
03:21 wannabe1987 you.
03:22 Druidic_Rifleman I will sleep on the bus
03:22 wannabe1987 i see that
03:22 wannabe1987 you sure thats enough sleep?  zomb goes till like...11 and then we sometimes go out to eat afterwards
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03:25 wannabe1987 astro will you be at zomb?
03:25 SarahM party need more wub wub :P  (NOT)
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03:26 SarahM hi kate\
03:26 wannabe1987 kate*
03:26 wannabe1987 not the /
03:26 Katemonster hae
03:28 Druidic_Rifleman hey Kate i get to go to the lab
03:28 Katemonster good for you?
03:28 Druidic_Rifleman yes
03:30 Sgt_Lemming http://www.overclockers.com.au/image.php?pic=images/newspics/10feb12/1.jpg
03:30 BotSteve Title: OCAU Image - Overclockers Australia
03:30 Sgt_Lemming lo Katemonster
03:30 Katemonster hi sgt. lemon king
03:34 wannabe1987 i got a text at work that said "kelley wants to party tonight, can she have people over"  my place is turning into the party house....helps to have a ping pong table for beer pong :/
03:34 Sgt_Lemming http://www.overclockers.com.au/image.php?pic=images/newspics/10feb12/24.jpg
03:35 BotSteve Title: OCAU Image - Overclockers Australia
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03:48 wannabe1987 woo cake flavored vodka tastes like cake
03:55 masterofmonks Oh Bob, she's drunk again.
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03:58 Druidrifleipod On my way be there to morrow
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04:00 Toastdude Hi
04:02 egrsteve have safe travels
04:02 wannabe1987 alright Druidrifleipod.  take care! :D
04:02 wannabe1987 see you at 11:30 at the bus station
04:02 wannabe1987 does anyone know where the bus station is?
04:02 wannabe1987 masterofmonks: I"M NOT DRUNK
04:02 egrsteve which one?
04:02 wannabe1987 greyhound
04:03 egrsteve at the rapid central station
04:03 wannabe1987 ok
04:03 egrsteve on grandville ave
04:03 wannabe1987 i can find that easily
04:04 egrsteve I would get off at market and take that in
04:08 wannabe1987 ok
04:15 wannabe1987 12 hours, 45 min till druid gets here
04:16 Toastdude Bye all
04:16 wannabe1987 night Toastdude
04:19 wannabe1987 what...snow....for tomorrow?!  druid you can leave that shit in canada!
04:24 mantere .tfwc tampere
04:24 BotSteve 27 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Tampere/Pirkkala, FI!  'Why do I live here?'
04:25 mantere hmm.. it's gonna be fun waiting for the buss
04:27 wannabe1987 brrr -27c
04:27 wannabe1987 .c -27c to f
04:27 BotSteve -16.6 degrees Fahrenheit
04:27 wannabe1987 .tfw tgg
04:27 BotSteve 30 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'It's a tit-bit nipplie.'
04:28 wannabe1987 .tfw oshawa on
04:28 BotSteve 30 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Oshawa, CA!  'It's a tit-bit nipplie.'
04:28 wannabe1987 same temp lol
04:31 ^Prophet^ .tfw Cedar Falls
04:31 BotSteve 31 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Cedar Falls, IA!  'Where's the cat? Oh shit. Fluffy's frozen.'
04:31 ^Prophet^ night all
04:32 wannabe1987 night
04:32 ^Prophet^ zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
04:32 * wannabe1987 covers you with blanket
04:32 ^Prophet^ :3
04:32 wannabe1987 someones gotta
04:32 ^Prophet^ tanks
04:32 ^Prophet^ :3
04:33 wannabe1987 yw
04:33 wannabe1987 now sleep
04:38 wannabe1987 .seen BitViper
04:38 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw BitViper 2.08 hours ago at 2012-02-10 02:33:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:38:01 UTC
04:38 wannabe1987 come back!!!!!
04:38 wannabe1987 what measuerments do you need?
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04:44 wannabe1987 lol bills drunk
04:45 wannabe1987 he's not here (acutally, noone is....)
04:46 ajprog_laptop I thought you were the one that was drunk?
04:46 wannabe1987 nope.  1oz vodka != drunk
04:46 wannabe1987 i'm not as much of a lightweight as some people *cough*astro*cough*
04:48 ajprog_laptop he is just hoping you will get drunk so you will take advantage of him
04:48 wannabe1987 astro?!
04:48 wannabe1987 thats what his girl is for
04:48 wannabe1987 and my housemates came back.
04:48 ajprog_laptop so much for that theory then
04:49 wannabe1987 astros not here, and druid hasn't gotten on the train yet
04:49 wannabe1987 i wonder if he knows what i look like....:hmmmm:
04:51 ajprog_laptop where is he taking the train from?
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04:52 wannabe1987 oshawa ontario.  to toronto.  then hopping on a bus to gr
04:52 wannabe1987 bus leaves at 1am
04:52 wannabe1987 i'm sure it'll be semi-empty
04:52 wannabe1987 my room is so fucking clean.  its CRAZY
04:53 wannabe1987 you'll be at the lab tomorrow, right?
04:53 wannabe1987 i've got donations....of epicness
04:54 ajprog_laptop yep I will be there
04:55 ajprog_laptop is he staying with you?
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04:59 wannabe1987 hi drunk
05:00 wannabe1987 jeff: yes
05:00 wannabe1987 NERD
05:00 wannabe1987 :P
05:00 wannabe1987 o.o
05:00 wannabe1987 http://drgrumpyinthehouse.blogspot.com/2012/01/freudian-script.html  LOL
05:00 BotSteve Title: Doctor Grumpy in the House: Freudian script
05:00 ajprog_laptop why are you calling me a nerd?
05:00 wannabe1987 no
05:00 wannabe1987 bill
05:00 wannabe1987 re: my facebook picture
05:00 wannabe1987 http://www.facebook.com/kelly.vanderwell/posts/342238702465432?notif_t=share_comment
05:00 BotSteve Title: Facebook
05:01 wannabe1987 congrats pranq
05:01 wannabe1987 producerBill*
05:01 producerBill yes I am here,,, well kinda
05:01 wannabe1987 bill
05:01 wannabe1987 bill = drunk :nods:
05:01 producerBill brain is floating in rum,,, lol
05:01 ajprog_laptop I can't see anything
05:01 wannabe1987 and he's not even at this party....
05:01 wannabe1987 awwww
05:01 producerBill party?
05:01 producerBill bring it on
05:01 producerBill ;p;
05:01 producerBill lol
05:01 wannabe1987 jeff: try it now
05:02 wannabe1987 next friday night my place....duh
05:02 producerBill party at your place?
05:02 producerBill where
05:02 wannabe1987 hudsonville
05:02 producerBill loc please
05:02 wannabe1987 druid will be here too
05:02 wannabe1987 and astro if he's cool enough
05:02 producerBill address please
05:02 producerBill am I invited?
05:02 wannabe1987 PM
05:02 wannabe1987 yes
05:02 producerBill (((((Smile)))))
05:03 wannabe1987 its a geek thing
05:03 wannabe1987 duh
05:03 producerBill ok
05:03 wannabe1987 i invited batsteve too!  and BotSteve if he reallllly wants
05:03 producerBill so,,, where
05:03 wannabe1987 PM!
05:03 wannabe1987 i'm not putting on here, this is logged
05:03 producerBill ok drunk,,, forgive me
05:03 producerBill can I bring the wife?
05:03 producerBill when is this?
05:04 wannabe1987 sure
05:04 wannabe1987 bring people and alcohol
05:04 wannabe1987 i'll send you a fb invite
05:05 producerBill cooll,,, that is better,,, I don't think I will remember this night
05:05 producerBill lol
05:05 wannabe1987 lol
05:05 wannabe1987 will you be at the lab tomorrow?
05:05 producerBill no have to rebuild a client's computer
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05:05 wannabe1987 now i know why you wear headphones....hungover :P
05:05 producerBill :(
05:05 wannabe1987 awwwwww theres zomb
05:05 ajprog_laptop ok see it now
05:05 wannabe1987 well, druid will be there for a while.....
05:06 producerBill brb,,, drink refill time.
05:06 hiptimtoo I wish I could go to zomb but I am stuck on the other side of michigan
05:06 wannabe1987 awwwww
05:06 wannabe1987 hi hiptimtoo
05:06 hiptimtoo hey
05:06 wannabe1987 i'm drinking cake flavored vodka, @ producerBill
05:06 hiptimtoo is it that UV stuff
05:06 wannabe1987 yeah....
05:06 wannabe1987 bill, theres some cap'n morgans here too....
05:07 hiptimtoo the lady in front of me at the store got it for free because it was her bday and the cashier was trying to get his mack on
05:07 producerBill lol
05:07 producerBill hip make it a road trip
05:07 wannabe1987 lol
05:07 producerBill ark for a min
05:08 hiptimtoo ill be out there on the 3-6th of may
05:08 hiptimtoo I got my military stuff to do then
05:08 wannabe1987 is that how you found tgg?
05:08 wannabe1987 the geek group?
05:09 wannabe1987 i'm totally the life of the party....they're out at the ping pong table doing who knows waht, i'm in my room with a small glass of vodka, cleaning :P
05:09 hiptimtoo no I was a mod for the old outdoor zomb
05:09 wannabe1987 cleaning and on the computer*
05:10 wannabe1987 ahhhh with soops?
05:10 hiptimtoo i dont think so
05:10 wannabe1987 joey aka superman?
05:10 hiptimtoo oh yeah
05:10 wannabe1987 yeah.
05:11 wannabe1987 over at cascade park.
05:11 hiptimtoo yeah
05:11 wannabe1987 my friend twisted his ankle there :/
05:11 hiptimtoo oh dang
05:11 wannabe1987 producerBill: i thought you said you had to build the computer tomorrow night....
05:12 producerBill party,,,, wowwowowoooooowww
05:12 producerBill lol
05:12 producerBill I am but I will try
05:12 wannabe1987 yeah...its NEXT friday, the 17th
05:12 wannabe1987 today (friday) is the 10th
05:12 producerBill and,,, well some drinks after rebuilding a computer sounds like a good idea
05:12 hiptimtoo yeah I was there at cascade park I had the nerfgun with the ball launcher on it
05:12 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/public/mmo/terraintest/PrepEnviroment.cmd    dos batch voodoo +1
05:12 wannabe1987 bill you have your dates mixed up
05:12 producerBill 17th... ok never mind
05:12 producerBill lol
05:12 wannabe1987 lol
05:12 wannabe1987 DRUNKARD
05:13 wannabe1987 :P
05:13 producerBill shut up,,,, I am not drunk (((( Falls over))) you are making it all up..... lol
05:13 wannabe1987 i was at cascade borrowing other peoples nerf weaponry.  i have a buzzbee :P  i keep it in my trunk
05:13 producerBill ya drunk and I know it
05:13 wannabe1987 right.....ok.  sure.
05:13 producerBill lol
05:14 hiptimtoo nice drunkeness is what people like to hear
05:14 wannabe1987 they want me to livestream the party....i don't have a webcam that has audio.....so i can't :P
05:14 producerBill remind me,, I will bring some fun
05:14 producerBill webcam, lab top and so on
05:14 producerBill ((((((Smile))))) geek fun
05:14 wannabe1987 ok
05:14 wannabe1987 helll yeah
05:14 hiptimtoo so what do you guy's think about lxde core linux
05:15 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell masterofmonks i won't be around for rpg tomorrow or the next week :/
05:15 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when masterofmonks is around.
05:15 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell masterofmonks maybe we need to switch nights....
05:15 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when masterofmonks is around.
05:15 hiptimtoo im thinking of putting it on my old computer but I dont know much about it
05:15 * wannabe1987 refers you to other geeks...i'm a kitchen geek :P
05:16 producerBill i need to get more into linux
05:16 wannabe1987 which reminds me: Monkeh when are you coming to town?  i need to go to ikea!
05:16 producerBill I did for a while then got away from it.
05:16 hiptimtoo I am using xubuntu on this pos computer right now
05:16 producerBill need to build another server and start kicking the tires again
05:16 wannabe1987 theres a streamline in my closet.  my gun doesn't take streamlines
05:17 wannabe1987 i'm....confused
05:17 producerBill (((Question))))) If I started doing a adult geek show on the live stream would you tune in?
05:17 wannabe1987 my housemate has *real* guns...not these derf kind
05:17 wannabe1987 no....i don't have a computer that can handle livestreams.....
05:17 wannabe1987 nerf*
05:17 hiptimtoo I got a 17hmr
05:17 wannabe1987 i'm not swear, i drunk!
05:17 ajprog_laptop wannabe1987: that is why I don't play
05:17 hiptimtoo its my high powered pellet gun
05:18 hiptimtoo it uses a 22 cassing with a 17 cal. round
05:18 hiptimtoo casing*
05:19 hiptimtoo can you all check out my blog
05:19 hiptimtoo http://socialanonymous.blogspot.com
05:19 BotSteve Title: Social Anonymous
05:20 producerBill loaded for me
05:21 hiptimtoo if you guys read it tell me what you guys think about it
05:22 producerBill you can watch live stream?
05:22 wannabe1987 ajprog_laptop: you don't play zomb cuz you have real guns?
05:22 wannabe1987 i love drunk people......
05:22 wannabe1987 eeeee
05:22 ajprog_laptop yep
05:22 wannabe1987 my housemates and their friends are odd
05:22 wannabe1987 what kind?
05:22 producerBill i have a shitty computer and it does ok
05:22 producerBill lol
05:22 wannabe1987 nick had his ar15 out earlier
05:23 wannabe1987 what kind of shitty computer bill?
05:23 wannabe1987 i have two shitty computers!
05:23 hiptimtoo well I am of to my slumber you all have a nite full of drunkedness and whatnots
05:23 wannabe1987 awwww
05:23 wannabe1987 fuck slumber :P
05:23 producerBill amd 64 3500+
05:23 producerBill so old
05:23 hiptimtoo i got an interview tomorrow
05:23 wannabe1987 i don't know what that is
05:23 wannabe1987 i have a net book and laptop
05:24 producerBill 7+ year old computer
05:24 producerBill hip good luck
05:24 wannabe1987 laptop is from 05/06
05:24 hiptimtoo i got a emachine 2.5ghz 40gig hd 2 gig RAM cd-rw
05:24 producerBill put your best face forward and geek charm them
05:24 hiptimtoo well I am off
05:25 producerBill I want to do some image processing from the live stream,,, tracking and so
05:25 producerBill that would be fun
05:27 BatSteve sup
05:27 wannabe1987 BatSteve!
05:27 BatSteve oh good, no messages for me
05:27 BatSteve hi wannabe1987
05:27 wannabe1987 are you coming up this way next friday?
05:28 egrsteve microeconomics: some nice bedtime reading
05:28 BatSteve wannabe1987: I have to work on fridays
05:28 BatSteve ):
05:28 wannabe1987 how late?!
05:28 wannabe1987 jobfail
05:28 BatSteve Sometimes 7:30 pm, sometimes 9:30 pm
05:29 BatSteve Today I was at work till 11:30
05:29 wannabe1987 still time to make it up for a party :nods:  bill will be there
05:29 BatSteve which is why I'm sleepy
05:29 wannabe1987 ugh
05:29 wannabe1987 i goto out on time finally :D
05:29 BatSteve goodnight team
05:29 BatSteve and hey, congrats!
05:29 wannabe1987 they took one of my people away, and my guy refused a shower, so thats why
05:29 wannabe1987 night bats
05:45 * egrsteve is no longer sane. (notice: realization that one is no longer sane does not imply previous sanity)
05:45 wannabe1987 why are you not sane?
05:46 egrsteve why would I be sane?
05:46 wannabe1987 i dunno.  you *are* of the geek group
05:46 * egrsteve wanders off to troll sub channels
05:47 wannabe1987 o god.  not again :P
05:47 egrsteve or maybe keep reading
05:47 egrsteve was it that bad?
05:47 wannabe1987 no
05:47 wannabe1987 dunnp
05:47 wannabe1987 o
05:48 Av_Nekoroms tired...zzzzzz
05:48 wannabe1987 sleep, friend
05:48 egrsteve http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb91/kamikazejkd/Duckroll.png
05:48 wannabe1987 DUCK
05:48 egrsteve did someone kill the bot?
05:48 wannabe1987 BotSteve
05:48 wannabe1987 no
05:48 wannabe1987 but he doesn't do photos
05:48 Av_Nekoroms Yo.. its a duck
05:48 egrsteve ah ok
05:48 wannabe1987 on wheels
05:48 wannabe1987 i think i should go sleep
05:49 egrsteve we should duck roll chris
05:49 wannabe1987 i want to throw ducks at him
05:49 egrsteve or just get grosses ?sp shipped to the lab
05:49 wannabe1987 grosses?
05:49 egrsteve plural of gross
05:50 egrsteve a dozen dozens (144)
05:50 wannabe1987 ahhh
05:50 egrsteve we need bulk duck
05:50 wannabe1987 yes
05:59 * egrsteve needs sleep
05:59 wannabe1987 same
05:59 wannabe1987 night
06:00 egrsteve but is stil here
06:00 wannabe1987 homework?
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06:01 egrsteve studying for a test
06:01 wannabe1987 oooo fun
06:01 wannabe1987 hi Electricguy!
06:02 egrsteve but it is time to sleep so I can be awake(ish) for ti
06:02 egrsteve *it
06:02 * egrsteve passes out
06:27 BitViper im not giving cpr
06:30 Cheezmo Any mods from the Minecraft server around? o3o
06:33 Electricguy hi hi wannabe1987 :)
06:39 Coderjoe ... wow
06:39 Coderjoe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIaIIKCjPzc
06:39 BotSteve Title: 14 Years of US Weather - May 2, 1997 - Dec 31, 2011 - YouTube
06:39 Coderjoe note: 33m35s long
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09:33 LOuder Hello
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10:37 roadran422 Morning!
10:37 HighMan ..
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10:44 HighMan Ok...
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11:04 Sgt_Lemming http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/5346-Amy "Chugging like a Cottage Cheese Margarita"
11:28 JA12 http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/kuvaton.com_-_meanwhile_in_finland_-kilpailu_2012_-_salla.jpg
11:34 einball g'morning
11:38 BitViper weather looks great for grand rapids today, weather alert was posted a couple hours ago
11:38 BitViper snow and ice this afternoon \o/
11:40 BitViper .tell SarahM (1) from SW corner of MDH to sidewalk along fence/drive (2) from NE corner of HVL to sidewalk and sidewalk to curb (3) SE corner of HVL to sidewalk and sidewalk to curb
11:40 BitViper hrm, no bot ?
11:41 HighMan 1. No bot xD
11:41 HighMan 2. it's botsteve:tell
11:41 HighMan *botsteve: tell
11:41 HighMan botsteve: tell
11:41 * BitViper sets traps out for botsteve
11:41 HighMan xD
11:48 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpMprhQFd0E <--- why does it not surprise me that this is Boden's most popular video :-P
11:51 HighMan xD Sgt_Lemming
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12:11 * LeePod yawns
12:12 LeePod . seen wannabe1987
12:12 LeePod .seen wannabe1987
12:12 BitViper bot died
12:13 BitViper probably froze
12:13 LeePod damnit
12:13 LeePod well gtg bye
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13:23 yNos_ pfffffttt
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13:34 Druidrifleipod Wannabe??
13:34 Druidrifleipod Any one one
13:35 Druidrifleipod On
13:39 Druidrifleipod No on?
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13:48 Druidrifleipod ?????
13:49 Druidrifleipod .minecraft
13:51 Druidrifleipod Can any one see me??
13:57 yNos nobody is online
13:57 yNos we are not here
13:58 Druidrifleipod yNos really bad time I am stranded and have no clue what I am doing
13:59 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/gallery/v7gap
13:59 Sgt_Lemming bot is down Druidrifleipod
13:59 yNos Druidrifleipod: where are you stranded?
14:00 Druidrifleipod Mc Donald's near the Detroit Windsor tunnel
14:01 BitViper Druidrifleipod : what happened to the bus ?
14:02 Druidrifleipod Got dripped at customs cause the felt I would displace a us worker
14:03 yNos lol
14:03 BitViper O_O
14:03 yNos you were polishing your gun, werent you?
14:03 BitViper customs refuesed you ?
14:03 yNos "this is my rifle, this is my gun, this is for hunting, this is for fun"
14:03 Druidrifleipod No guns other then nerf
14:03 yNos rlly?
14:04 Druidrifleipod Well scrap paint ball marker
14:04 yNos you have a passport, and a valid drivers lic... right?
14:04 BitViper Druidrifleipod : customs actually blattantly refused you ? that is f'd up
14:05 BitViper illegals are fine, wont displace american jobs, but a visitor from the north is refused ???
14:05 yNos fuck'm.. goto sarnia
14:06 Druidrifleipod Yeah they said cause I was going to the lab it sounded like I was going to work
14:06 yNos umm..
14:06 BitViper derp, shoulda just told em you was visiting friends, and id file a complaint too since they based the refusal purely on opinon
14:06 yNos did you offer to show them the website?
14:07 Druidrifleipod Tried
14:07 yNos leave and come back..
14:07 yNos go to a different group
14:08 BitViper get a return bus ticket to show them
14:08 Druidrifleipod I'm to worried they'll stop me if I did go to a differant crossing
14:08 yNos different group of people in the same crossing.
14:09 Druidrifleipod I could be bared from entering for 5 years if that happens
14:09 yNos really?
14:09 yNos word of caution.. dont say hackerspace
14:10 yNos makespace is the PC term
14:10 Druidrifleipod The supervisor was nice the counter guy want to bar me right out
14:10 BitViper ask to see a supervisor, ask them to call one of us
14:10 yNos "Wut, yer a computer hacker!?!? you cant come in to hack us from the inside!?!?!
14:10 yNos "
14:10 Druidrifleipod You could of said that last night
14:11 yNos thought you'd know that..
14:11 Druidrifleipod This really sucks
14:11 yNos see if you can talk to a manager or something..
14:11 yNos gotta be something you can do..
14:12 Druidrifleipod I need to check the customs sight
14:12 Druidrifleipod iPod web browsing is worse then dial up
14:13 Druidrifleipod I'll likely need a letter from Chris saying I won't steal someone's job
14:14 Druidrifleipod Bv can you pm me the team speak info?
14:14 BitViper yeah sec
14:16 kellyEv hi greg
14:17 wannabe1987 there
14:17 wannabe1987 wtf
14:17 BitViper wannabe1987 : pms under wannabe and sarah for you
14:18 wannabe1987 yes....snow and ice ....ugh
14:19 Druidrifleipod I am stranded
14:19 wannabe1987 Druidrifleipod: where you at?
14:19 wannabe1987 ??
14:19 Druidrifleipod Near the detrit tunnel
14:21 wannabe1987 holy shit.
14:21 wannabe1987 so now what?
14:21 BitViper we're planning a lynch mob
14:21 wannabe1987 lol
14:22 wannabe1987 sounds great to me.  loosers
14:23 BitViper druid want me to tell ya'll that he's ok other than being stranded, im talking to him
14:23 wannabe1987 yeah....i got a vm from him
14:24 wannabe1987 and texts
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14:25 wannabe1987 hi
14:26 wannabe1987 you sound like my friend tony.
14:26 Serostern arr
14:26 egrsteve hello
14:26 yNos hey there
14:27 egrsteve you check that duplexer?
14:28 yNos igot home and started puttingthe programming cable togather...
14:28 egrsteve cool
14:28 yNos was too tired.. went to bed
14:29 wannabe1987 lol
14:29 egrsteve fair enough
14:29 yNos need to find the manual to re-tune the frontends
14:29 wannabe1987 wall collapsed at the jail.
14:29 yNos and r100.com to program it ;)
14:29 wannabe1987 too many people trying to dig out :P
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14:30 BitViper wannabe1987 : O_O
14:30 Druidrifle Ugh crash
14:30 yNos Druidrifle is flapping
14:30 egrsteve how hard is front end tuning
14:30 yNos moving a slig and maybe a cap
14:30 yNos **slug
14:31 BitViper egrsteve : from what little i know tuning a dup is fairly straight forward just time consuming
14:31 yNos not hard.
14:31 BitViper easier if you have nice tools
14:31 yNos the duplexer was pretty damn quick..
14:31 BitViper ie freq analy
14:31 egrsteve try network analy
14:31 yNos network analyzer was superbadassmegacool
14:33 yNos egrsteve: do they have a good wattmeter?
14:33 egrsteve don't think so
14:33 yNos hmm
14:34 yNos think we may have to make an rf ammeter
14:34 yNos http://www.w8ji.com/building_a_current_meter.htm
14:35 yNos something like that anyway..
14:35 wannabe1987 does anyone know how the roads are?
14:35 egrsteve i will have to look at that later im on my phone
14:35 egrsteve not bad yet
14:36 egrsteve could be in an hour though
14:36 yNos wannabe1987: look out your window..
14:36 wannabe1987 that doesn't tell me if the roads are slick....my window looks to a field
14:36 BitViper roads should be ok, stuff isnt suposed to get good until noon
14:36 wannabe1987 Druidrifle: you doing ok?
14:37 Druidrifle Can some one find a place with a fax machine on the canadian side of the Detroit Windsor tunnel
14:37 wannabe1987 is there a fedex somewhere?
14:37 wannabe1987 i don't know what you have....
14:37 BitViper chris is on fb now if we need to get hold of him
14:37 Druidrifle Maybe I do not know this area
14:37 wannabe1987 i'll look for ya
14:38 Druidrifle Please?
14:38 BitViper ask the person at the counter, i would expect them to at least have an idea
14:38 Druidrifle Nope
14:38 wannabe1987 they have to have a fax machine
14:38 Druidrifle Ask Chris if he has any ideas
14:38 BitViper druid does chris know who you are ?
14:38 Druidrifle He's on my friends list
14:39 yNos so a fax is more legit than an email?
14:39 wannabe1987 theres a duty free shop....see if they have a fax machine
14:40 BitViper msg sent to chris
14:40 Druidrifle I just need to send it
14:40 BitViper everyone hide, chris is coming
14:40 Druidrifle My parents the page the gave me
14:41 BitViper or moose
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14:41 yNos HI!
14:41 wannabe1987 hi moose
14:41 egrsteve hello
14:41 yNos i do beleive hell hath froze
14:41 Druidrifle Mooseessed up
14:41 tysk I was told to get in here
14:42 wannabe1987 yes, Druidrifle is trying to come visit and is stuck at the border
14:42 tysk how can we help?
14:42 BitViper druid is stuck at the border, customs thought he was gonna steal jobs
14:42 Druidrifle I got stuck
14:42 tysk Greg, you're just coming to visit aren't you?
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14:42 Captain ok, what's going on?
14:42 wannabe1987 yes, Druidrifle is trying to come visit and is stuck at the border
14:42 yNos coming to visit.
14:42 tysk How long are you intending on visiting?
14:43 Druidrifle Pretty much they said they thought I would displace us workers
14:43 tysk By visiting? This doesn't make any sense..
14:43 Druidrifle After the high voltage weekend
14:43 tysk so like, a week and a half or something?
14:43 Druidrifle Yeah
14:44 Captain WTF
14:44 tysk did this happen this morning?
14:44 Druidrifle 3 hours ago
14:44 tysk can you try again?
14:45 Sgt_Lemming got a phone number someone can ring and vouch for you Druidrifle?
14:45 tysk You can give them the address and phone number of TGG and we would be happy to explain that you aren't stealing a job or any other stupid thing like that
14:46 tysk I've gotten stuck at the border for dumb things before, so I have a lot of sympathy.
14:46 Druidrifle I could but if I get turned back they could bar me for 5 years
14:46 Druidrifle Got to log off have wannabe text me the info moose
14:46 wannabe1987 ok
14:47 Druidrifle Faxing some thing home
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14:48 Druidrifle Be on in a while
14:49 * egrsteve needs to go take a test :(
14:50 yNos tysk: If we you need something faxed, email it to me and i can send it for you.
14:50 yNos not sure if you have a faxmachine there.
14:51 egrsteve ttyl
14:51 yNos gluck steve
14:51 egrsteve thanks
14:51 wannabe1987 you'll do fine, steve
14:54 wannabe1987 tysk: when you've got info together, i can text it to him for ya.
14:55 BitViper tysk : in any voucher be sure to say a longer time than he's actually expected to be here else they may limit him, but you may already know this
14:59 tysk wait, what voucher do I need?
14:59 tysk and what info does he need texted to him?
15:00 wannabe1987 address and phone number of the lab, i assume.
15:00 BitViper "voucher" as in sending him some sort of letter vouching for him, not meant anything official
15:00 wannabe1987 i can do address, but not phone number
15:00 tysk 616-466-4335
15:00 wannabe1987 ok
15:00 tysk which is also on the website if they want to verify...
15:03 wannabe1987 you guys at the lab yet?
15:03 exor674 you expect customs people to actually look at the internet?
15:03 wannabe1987 mebbe
15:03 tysk I've had customs people look up and verify stuff for me before.
15:03 tysk I am not at the lab yet, but the main lab phone number rings on my cell phone and then if I don't answer auto-bumps to geek hq..
15:04 tysk so if they call, I will answer.
15:04 wannabe1987 alright
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15:09 tysk any word from him?
15:10 Sgt_Lemming tysk, on a related note, how is planning for housing for visitors coming along?
15:10 tysk I'm not in a position to discuss that right now.
15:10 Sgt_Lemming kk
15:11 tysk (sorry)
15:11 Sgt_Lemming I am hoping to visit from .au in august for a couple of months, would love to put in a whole heap of help at tgg
15:11 tysk I suggest you fill out a contact form so it can be discussed privately, instead.
15:11 Sgt_Lemming kk
15:12 BitViper snowing here finally
15:12 wannabe1987 it looks like its been snowing here....
15:12 Sgt_Lemming still about 30c here
15:12 wannabe1987 and where'd you get a + from?!
15:12 wannabe1987 :P
15:13 BitViper wannabe1987 : i have no idea, i was wondering that myself
15:13 wannabe1987 all he's said is "i can't believe i was so dumb to not get a return ticket."
15:13 tysk oh, he doesn't have a return ticket-- he should have mentioned that right away.
15:13 exor674 /o\
15:13 exor674 that would be a problem hah
15:13 tysk That won't let you cross without one, they'll just come up with some excuse.
15:13 Sgt_Lemming yeah, that was a bit of a dumb move on his behalf >_<
15:13 BitViper wannabe1987 i musta picked it up while i was hiding under the couch :)
15:14 tysk He's taking the train I assume?
15:14 wannabe1987 theres no room under the couches here....and theres other people on them...
15:14 Sgt_Lemming bus
15:14 BitViper tysk : greyhound
15:14 wannabe1987 no, he was taking the bus
15:14 tysk Greyhound. Okay, they're generally pretty good at letting you change your ticket after you make it.
15:14 tysk So if he gets one and then needs to bump it around a day or two or three, it's no big deal.
15:14 wannabe1987 but if he's stuck, will i have to go get him?or will they stick him on another bus?
15:15 BitViper they should put him on a later bus, but i dont know
15:15 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, I would hope they'd stick him on another bus
15:15 wannabe1987 the only other "later bus" to gr is arriving at 11:30pm
15:15 wannabe1987 i'm not waiting that long, i'll be at zomb then!
15:15 Sgt_Lemming heh
15:15 Sgt_Lemming how from GR to the border post?
15:15 tysk He was planning on taking the bus from Detroit to GR?
15:16 wannabe1987 like 3 hour
15:16 BitViper tysk : yes
15:16 Sgt_Lemming ouch
15:16 tysk It's 2.5-3 hours depending on traffic and your bravery.
15:16 BitViper and what wannabe1987 said, 2-3 hours
15:16 wannabe1987 yeah....he took the train from oshawa to toronto, and then bus from there to here.
15:16 BitViper lol @ bravery :)
15:16 tysk There are greyhound buses as late as 6:45pm today
15:16 tysk So he can take a later greyhound for sure, as long as he can get across the border.
15:16 wannabe1987 from detroit?
15:16 tysk Yes from Detroit.
15:16 wannabe1987 ok
15:16 tysk 10:30AM, 12:10PM, 1:25PM and 6:45PM
15:17 tysk Also write this down in case he needs it -- they are buses # 4579, 4590, 4526 and 4592, respectively.
15:18 tysk And since there's Zomb tonight, if he is getting into GR even as late as 10pm somebody can pick him up at the bus station.
15:18 tysk there will be people..
15:18 wannabe1987 yeah
15:18 wannabe1987 i need to go, i'll be back.  i have to pick up my food order
15:24 ajprog_laptop can he just buy a return ticket via his phone, then he can some them the confirmation email?
15:24 ajprog_laptop *some=show
15:26 Seroster Oh hello there tysk
15:26 tysk If he can't buy the ticket on his phone I can buy it and have the email confirmation sent to him and then he can pay for it when he gets to GR
15:26 tysk if that's what it takes to get him out of customs, lol
15:26 Seroster Up bright and early, eh?
15:27 ajprog_laptop we are normally up, just have other stuff to do before we get to the lab
15:27 tysk dude, I am usually already working and busy by 8:30AM.
15:30 Sgt_Lemming tysk, it's 01:30 here, I am still working on things :-P
15:31 tysk I was also still working on things at 01:30 this morning... lol
15:31 Sgt_Lemming one of these things is something you guys might be able to use tysk
15:32 Sgt_Lemming Ethernet enabled RFID boards
15:32 tysk neat
15:32 Sgt_Lemming should be about $30 per board, not including RFID reader
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15:38 BitViper lol i think druid butt dialed my phone
15:44 Sgt_Lemming lol
15:46 BitViper ok they are aparently putting druid through the ringer, aparently confirmation from moose/chris, or even a return ticket is insufficient ...
15:46 BitViper they aparently require a bunch of crap including his disability papers and other bullshit like that
15:46 tysk I'm not surprised, since they had a rough time with him earlier.
15:46 tysk does he have them with him?
15:47 BitViper hes in contact with his parents to get that info for him
15:47 tysk Excellent.
15:47 tysk I'm going to be leaving in about half an hour (to go to the lab) and will be unable to monitor IRC but I answer email quickly (or answer the phone) if there's anything I can do.
15:48 BitViper he is worried about getting from there to here, worried that he may not be able to use his existing tick to get onto one of the later busses ... i told him we'd get him a ride one way or another. as last resort i might be able to go get him if i can catch a friend in a good mood
15:48 tysk If he can get onto US soil, we will make sure he gets to GR.
15:49 BitViper yep thats what i told him
15:49 tysk good
15:49 BitViper and he's got kellys, mine, and the labs phone nums at least
15:50 tysk Well the lab phone number goes straight to me.
15:52 Seroster How many languages do you speak tysk?
15:53 Seroster I assume german swedish and english
15:53 tysk yes, I speak those
15:53 Seroster How come? Lived in europe before moving to the us?
15:54 tysk I'm not really interested in talking about myself :)
15:54 BitViper oh good god, get this, customs has to have the original documents, so his parents have to drive them down, 5 hours !!!
15:54 tysk Oh man.
15:54 tysk Poor dude.
15:55 Seroster That sucks '-'
15:56 Seroster Why so picky?
15:56 tysk Because he failed the first round of admission so on round 2 they are extremely particular.
15:56 tonsofpcs BitViper: will they accept a local police/justice reviewing them?
15:56 BitViper doesnt sound like it
15:56 tysk Customs gets to kind of do their own thing and set their own rules.
15:57 BitViper methinks some customs agent/s got up on the wrong side of the coffee this morning
15:57 tysk Likely.
15:57 tysk The first agent probably also put a stamp in his file saying "danger!" or something.
15:58 BitViper yeah
15:58 tonsofpcs because canadians are really trying to escape to the US .......
15:58 BitViper and moose, that load of good in nyc thread is me
15:58 Seroster Lol, a car scrapyard not far from here had a lot of problems with scrappers stealing stuff, so they installed a camera system.   Wich was worth more than the metals and got stolen xD
16:00 yNos i wonder if he said the work "hackerspace" and they think it is some terrorist hacker group..
16:01 yNos cuz we r so ebil!
16:01 tysk Or some group of people who try to break networks a la anonymous.
16:03 yNos exactly
16:04 yNos should have warned him earlier that the pc term is "makerspace"
16:04 BitViper he shouldnt even have mentioned tgg, just said visiting friends
16:04 tysk Apparently we should have gone over quite a few things with him.
16:05 wannabe1987 yeah...
16:08 wannabe1987 holy crap
16:08 wannabe1987 anyway i'm back
16:08 BitViper yeah wannabe1987 if you havnt already read the scroll
16:08 wannabe1987 did
16:09 BitViper we'll have to throw a special party for him when he gets here LOL
16:09 Seroster tysk, Could be handy with a little guide on the homepage "what not to tell customs since it will be misunderstood"?
16:09 tysk No, I'd get in a fair amount of trouble if we did something like that.
16:09 wannabe1987 yes....party sounds great.  theres one next friday :D
16:09 BitViper wannabe1987 but thats for you no ?
16:10 wannabe1987 yeah, but he'll be there, bill will be there...i've changed it from a birthday party to just a party cuz my birthday is in march
16:10 BitViper ah
16:11 BitViper youre just west of jennison right ?
16:11 wannabe1987 i'm between hudsonville and grandville
16:12 yNos getting ready to hit tokyo grill.. any joiners?
16:12 wannabe1987 i'm willing to go to detroit, if i have someone to ride with me
16:12 wannabe1987 where is it?
16:12 BitViper id go but would have to get to gr first
16:13 wannabe1987 and what does it serve?
16:13 wannabe1987 i might as well head to the lab....get my volunteering hrs in for zomb....
16:14 tysk I'm sure we can find a ride-buddy for you Kelly
16:14 tysk I will keep that in mind
16:14 wannabe1987 ok
16:15 tysk I'm leaving in a few minutes for the lab but I have to stop at the post office.... hopefully dave will be there closer to noon
16:15 wannabe1987 ok.  i won't leave yet....but i'll be there in a bit
16:18 Seroster Can you get chrome in a spraycan?
16:19 yNos yes
16:19 yNos chrome-ish
16:19 yNos chrome-esque
16:19 Seroster ,,,How bad is it?
16:20 yNos depends on the texture of your target
16:20 Seroster I wouldnt try to put anything shiny on anything that isnt perfectly smooth
16:24 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/gallery/ujY6W
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16:27 angy morninfternoon
16:27 yNos g'mornin/eve'nin/night
16:27 wannabe1987 hi angy
16:28 astro73|alice hello
16:28 angy hello yNos, wannabe & aaAAaastro
16:28 yNos you saying he is a big A?
16:29 yNos what are you tryin to say?
16:29 astro73|alice Awesome? yes.
16:29 wannabe1987 astro = awesomesauce
16:29 wannabe1987 duh
16:29 astro73|alice Astronaut? saddly, no.
16:29 angy Apple! He is an Apple!
16:30 wannabe1987 no
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16:30 wannabe1987 he's not tasty to munch on
16:30 wannabe1987 lol Electronics joined at the wrong time o.O
16:30 BitViper tmi tmi
16:30 astro73|alice she wouldn't know
16:30 Electronics lol
16:30 wannabe1987 however, he's comfy.  so.....i dunno what he is
16:36 astro73|alice comfy starting with A?
16:36 astro73|alice agreeable?
16:36 astro73|alice alpacian?
16:37 wannabe1987 no you are not an animal
16:37 egrsteve drudic ever make it though?
16:37 astro73|alice no, like made of alpaca fur
16:39 wannabe1987 no....he needs originals of some of his papers, his parents need to bring them, 5 hrs by car to the tunnel
16:39 wannabe1987 we'll get him through
16:39 egrsteve ah ok
16:39 tysk OK, I am heading out.
16:39 wannabe1987 ok
16:39 tysk Somebody email me or call me if there's anything I can do to help our Canadian friend out.
16:39 BitViper will do
16:39 wannabe1987 sounds good
16:39 tysk thanks
16:41 angy and time for me to go back home (I have alternating days with Moose ;)
16:42 astro73|alice was that moose? i thought she hated irc
16:42 angy she does
16:42 angy tysk == moose
16:42 astro73|alice i thought so.
16:43 wannabe1987 yes, but it was a situation that needed her in here.
16:43 astro73|alice ok
16:43 BitViper yeah hell froze over this morning, even had chris in here briefly
16:44 angy she can come if she is needed, that's the power of moose (and her seeking of nifty restaurants)
16:44 astro73|alice would certainly explain the sudden appearance of snow
16:44 wannabe1987 lol
16:44 BitViper hahahaha
16:45 Cprossu hey everybody
16:45 BitViper last report i saw said up to 3 inches of snow FREEZING ONTO the roads, and wind chils possibly below zero
16:45 wannabe1987 hi Cprossu
16:45 wannabe1987 up there, yeah. i heard 1.3" for gr
16:45 BitViper and for our international friends thats zero fahrenheit
16:45 BitViper wannabe1987 no thats gr forecast, thats the official weather alert
16:46 BitViper well regional forecast
16:46 wannabe1987 shhhh
16:46 BitViper hehehe
16:46 BitViper as a storm spotter i get the weather alerts roughtly the same time they go out to the media/etc
16:46 Cprossu I got a pm that druid was uh... stranded?!
16:46 wannabe1987 yes
16:46 BitViper Cprossu : yeah, he's getting raped by customs
16:46 wannabe1987 still is
16:47 wannabe1987 he's getting food
16:48 Cprossu well I am glad someone's in comm with him, I don't have his cell.
16:48 BitViper i hope he finds a way to get a bit of sleep
16:48 BitViper Cprossu : wannabe1987 and I are in contact with him
16:48 wannabe1987 yeah, BitViper and i have his numbers....he also has moose/lab's number
16:48 Cprossu good deal
16:49 Cprossu hey yNos you still around?
16:49 BitViper yNos is never around, just pretends once in a while
16:49 Cprossu never mind that
16:50 angy we discussed it a bit earlier with moose, he may have been a little too honest with his answers to customs
16:50 wannabe1987 he's getting beer.
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16:50 Ponko ahh
16:50 wannabe1987 i wouldn't if i had to think straight, but whatevs.
16:50 wannabe1987 hi ponko
16:50 wannabe1987 he has my address....shoulda just said he's visiting me gahhhhh
16:50 Ponko hey wannabe1987
16:51 wannabe1987 ok.  time to head out, do my thing, then head to lab.
16:52 wannabe1987 its snowing bigger flakes
16:53 * egrsteve downloads at 2.7 Mb/sec sustainded
16:53 angy bah, that's tiny :D
16:54 egrsteve tiny but still a solid conection
16:54 angy http://www.speedtest.net/result/1764633944.png
16:55 * Cprossu goes and looks at the conversation above
16:55 egrsteve fine. let me get a wired connection here
16:56 angy I can do best, this computer only have a FastEthernet nic
16:56 angy *better
16:56 Electronics 2.7Mb/s is my max speed I get here
16:57 wannabe1987 hahaha
16:57 Electronics usually around 1.8-2
16:57 wannabe1987 http://www.speedtest.net/result/1764639322.png  mine
16:57 wannabe1987 so slow
16:59 egrsteve /me downloads at 35 Mb / sec
16:59 egrsteve no 38
17:00 egrsteve 3.2 gigs in just over a minute
17:00 egrsteve and done
17:00 angy that's OK, with my workstation downstair I top at roughly 700Mb/s
17:01 egrsteve this was from a web page
17:01 angy that's the download of the ISO I use :)
17:02 Electronics wow how I wish I had that sort of connection...
17:02 angy at home I'm roughly at 50-70Mb/s
17:02 egrsteve thats unheard of in the US
17:03 egrsteve at least around here
17:03 Sgt_Lemming egrsteve, gimme a fast FTP to download from and I can show you some high speeds :-P
17:03 Sgt_Lemming my shell box is on 1gbit connection
17:03 wannabe1987 its snowing bigger flakes
17:03 wannabe1987 wtf
17:03 egrsteve nice
17:03 angy here in big urban cities, if you are on the fiber network, it go way up
17:03 wannabe1987 who ordered this?!
17:04 Sgt_Lemming me!
17:04 egrsteve :)
17:04 wannabe1987 asshat
17:04 egrsteve I requested what 3 ft i think
17:04 * wannabe1987 sends you water that was once snow
17:04 * Sgt_Lemming sits on wannabe1987's head
17:04 angy 82.8M/s that's the workstation downstairs, in Mo/s not Mb/s
17:05 wannabe1987 ow  i already have sinus pressure
17:05 Sgt_Lemming yeah angy, I could get this one upto about that
17:05 angy yeah, I have that on my desktop computer, not shell box
17:06 Sgt_Lemming unfortunately it's kinda impossible to get gbit at home here
17:06 Sgt_Lemming give it another few years and that will change
17:08 angy it's funny how it feels useless above roughly 30-40Mb/s
17:11 wannabe1987 how did you function at the lab?
17:13 * egrsteve installs CAD software into a VM
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17:14 angy I need to find an idea for what to cook tomorro for lunch and dinner, no idea at all...
17:14 wannabe1987 food works best
17:15 angy I though of cooking astro, but too far to get
17:15 wannabe1987 NO!
17:15 wannabe1987 not allowed
17:15 wannabe1987 he's too comfy to cook :P
17:16 angy :)
17:20 * egrsteve almost done installing Pro/E
17:20 angy I so hate Pro/E
17:21 egrsteve it's what I know
17:21 angy at least, it's not autocad
17:21 egrsteve I would have installed solidworks but yay enough said
17:22 angy go with dassault systèmes softwares
17:22 Electricguy LOL XD http://www.n0.se/f/n/4ce5b_7803.jpg
17:22 Electricguy cat humor
17:22 egrsteve this I have free licesnse acess to via school
17:22 angy that's best
17:23 Cprossu hrmmm
17:23 egrsteve ya, free is good
17:25 angy I got free CATIA and free Solidworks
17:26 egrsteve lucky you
17:26 egrsteve never used catia
17:27 angy it's a great tool :)
17:27 egrsteve I also have ansys and matlab, if I want them
17:27 angy which part of ansys?
17:27 wannabe1987 why is america's border patrol so fucking stupid
17:27 egrsteve umm idk all what packages but a lot
17:27 angy it all depend on what you said to them
17:28 angy it's a great tool, but really hard to master
17:28 wannabe1987 they're going beyond that now.....
17:28 egrsteve you should have entered visiting friends for a week or so
17:28 wannabe1987 i know he should have.
17:28 wannabe1987 but he didn't
17:28 wannabe1987 and now we're stuck with this "stuff"
17:28 egrsteve yay
17:28 wannabe1987 i'm off to the lab....be back on in like.... 30 or so
17:29 angy CBP are really touchy when you say work
17:29 egrsteve indeed they are
17:30 wannabe1987 yeah...shoulda used "volunteer"
17:30 angy that's even worse wannabe1987
17:30 egrsteve no, visiting friends
17:30 angy always go with visit a friend
17:30 SarahM how is volunteer worse tho?
17:30 SarahM ok....yes.  visit friends
17:30 SarahM but how is volunteer worse?  (i shut down wannabe)
17:32 SarahM angy?
17:33 egrsteve it could look like un paid work
17:33 SarahM thats cuz technically it is....so now i'm going off to the lab to do unpaid work :)
17:34 angy doing unpaid work, that is kindof bad for customs, worse than paid work
17:36 BitViper brief druid update, they are now asking for a document which is likely going to be impossible to get due to reasons I wont state here
17:36 BitViper and im guessing they KNOW it will be impossible to get, that being the whole point
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17:37 angy that's the whole point of CBP, if he is already entered in the system, he need to go in appeal
17:39 angy and there I go home. I may be back in a few
17:42 egrsteve great
17:55 BitViper ROTFL ROTFL http://twitpic.com/8i32e9
17:56 yNos Am back.. any news from druidic?
17:56 BitViper yNos see pm ...
17:59 yNos ohdamn
18:00 Electricguy i really like this idea http://www.amateurengineer.com/?p=400
18:00 Electricguy the ultimate breadboard... XD
18:00 Cprossu not fun.
18:01 yNos Cprossu: so how are things going down south?
18:01 Cprossu going ok
18:01 Sgt_Lemming that is pretty awesome Electricguy
18:02 Electricguy yeah
18:02 Cprossu I do has a question for you pm wise though
18:02 Electricguy build it to fit inside a suitcase and you got a portable (luggable) lab
18:02 BatSteve sup
18:02 Electricguy not much
18:02 BatSteve hm..is the bot dead?
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18:03 Sgt_Lemming has been for about 10 hours
18:04 Sgt_Lemming oh, Electricguy, I got a breadboard that big, and a bunch of components including some 4PDT 20A relays, for $2
18:04 Electricguy oh nice :P
18:04 Electricguy fleamarket? XD
18:04 Sgt_Lemming forum
18:04 Electricguy ahh
18:09 Sgt_Lemming working on the RFID board again, made it a bit bigger, but added a few features as a resuly
18:09 Sgt_Lemming result*
18:10 Sgt_Lemming it's now 65mm x 40mm, but every pin on the ATMega is now broken out, along with pins for accessing the different voltages on the board
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18:19 wannabe1987 there
18:20 Sgt_Lemming woo, how goes the druid hunt?
18:20 tgg|wannabe w00t this is also registerd to me
18:20 tgg|wannabe not well afaik
18:20 tgg|wannabe pretty much a fail
18:20 Sgt_Lemming bugger
18:20 tgg|wannabe yeah....
18:20 tgg|wannabe omni says hi, btw....
18:20 Sgt_Lemming heh
18:20 tgg|wannabe she was waiting when i got here...
18:21 tgg|wannabe at the top of the stairs, wagging
18:21 BitViper we know where druid IS, the trick now is getting im OUT
18:21 tgg|wannabe yes
18:21 tgg|wannabe should i go find moose and talk to her?
18:21 Sgt_Lemming could it possibly help him?
18:21 Sgt_Lemming if it can, it's worth it, if not, no
18:21 tgg|wannabe i was more asking BitViper,
18:22 tgg|wannabe moose was in here earlier
18:22 Sgt_Lemming yeah I know
18:22 tgg|wannabe k
18:22 angy I'm quite sure she is following very closely that
18:23 tgg|wannabe well, she's not in here, and idk if BitViper has told her whats going on or if druid has called her
18:23 tgg|wannabe the new info that idk if i can say, that is
18:26 BitViper stby for new update
18:27 BitViper tgg|wannabe : i would say you can tell moose everything including the one detail left out of the channel.
18:28 BitViper as for latest update. the document mentioned in the last udpate which was expected to be [near] impossible to be found druid has been told will take AT LEAST several days to locate, if it can be located. druid is at a hotel waiting for the bus to go home as there is no point in staying at the border.
18:29 BitViper he says he will be back online when he can, likely a few hours. also ways he will be trying again if he can get that document
18:34 tgg|wannabe sounds good
18:34 tgg|wannabe moose is with people, i will tell her when she's done
18:34 yNos hopefully he didnt rant him self onto a blacklist.
18:34 tgg|wannabe now i'm going to go clean the kitchen/cafe with christy....you'll most likely see me in a vid as i'll be here ALL DAY
18:34 tgg|wannabe BitViper: at least they can find the document
18:35 angy yNos: that depend on what he said and his comportment
18:36 yNos yup
18:36 exor674 lol, is it snowing in GR right now?
18:36 yNos yup
18:38 yNos Seroster: you want to play with high voltage w/o having to think? re:high voltage coax
18:39 yNos really, it boils down to what power levels and what coax
18:39 Sgt_Lemming yNos, I've redone the RFID board a little bit
18:40 Sgt_Lemming it's a tiny bit bigger, but adds a few features
18:40 BitViper tgg|wannabe : maybe they can find it, its not certain
18:40 Sgt_Lemming including 7 spare GPIO pins for sensors etc, e.g. chris's idea for lots of temp sensors in each room
18:40 yNos nice, what added features?
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18:41 Sgt_Lemming sorry, 9 pins, forgot about the other 2 snuck in the corner
18:41 yNos h wants a 1 ft grid of temp sensors...
18:41 Sgt_Lemming also broke out the two vregs on the board
18:41 LeePod I'm bored
18:42 Sgt_Lemming so you can access the lower voltages for external stuff
18:44 LeePod What can someone do In a study hall
18:45 LeePod .seen wannabe1987
18:45 BotSteve LeePod: I last saw tgg|wannabe 0.18 hours ago at 2012-02-10 18:34:58 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:45:28 UTC
18:47 LeePod Bye every one bbl
18:47 Sgt_Lemming yNos Electricguy https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/PCBS?authkey=Gv1sRgCK73t-Cw3pmLmwE#5707580235833973490
18:47 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming . - PCB's
18:47 Cprossu later
18:48 Electricguy oh nice :)
18:48 Sgt_Lemming thanks
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18:58 Druidrifle Found some wifi
18:58 mashpriborintorg hi
18:58 tgg|wannabe w00t
18:59 Druidrifle Thanks to every one who tried
18:59 BitViper hey Druidrifle, fyi im going to be off the grid shortly
18:59 tgg|wannabe anything for a fellow geek
18:59 yNos define:grid
18:59 Druidrifle Huh?
19:00 mashpriborintorg cool my photogallery was linked onto hackaday so I've already got 1000 views for today :p http://hackaday.com/2012/02/10/using-a-cheap-accelerometer-with-arduino-comes-with-a-catch/
19:00 BotSteve Title: Using a cheap accelerometer with Arduino comes with a catch - Hack a Day
19:00 tgg|wannabe nice
19:00 BitViper Druidrifle : im going to be away from keyboard and phone shortly, just fyi
19:00 Sgt_Lemming hey mashpriborintorg https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/PCBS?authkey=Gv1sRgCK73t-Cw3pmLmwE#5707580235833973490
19:00 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming . - PCB's
19:00 tgg|wannabe i'm going back to the lab/cleaning in the kitchen/cafe/thing
19:01 tgg|wannabe Druidrifle: moose knows of the outcome of your  plight.
19:02 Druidrifle I'm on my way home
19:02 tgg|wannabe alright.  take care.
19:02 tgg|wannabe i'll talk to you tonight
19:02 Sgt_Lemming Druidrifle, what was their issue?
19:02 yNos Druidrifle: you got a bus back already?
19:02 Sgt_Lemming just the lack of return ticket?
19:03 Druidrifle The guy didn't get laid
19:03 BitViper probably not far from the truth
19:04 Druidrifle Sorry if I caused drama
19:05 BitViper no worries Druidrifle, no worries
19:06 yNos just another day in irc :P
19:06 yNos only you are the one with the shit sasmich this time
19:07 Druidrifle I need a beer
19:07 yNos need?
19:07 Sgt_Lemming yNos, doing chris's 1 foot sensor grid shouldn't be that hard with 1wire sensors
19:08 yNos so is that what you plan on doing when you come? making grids?
19:09 yNos he wants the sensors everywhere.. but doesnt want them to be seen
19:09 yNos aesthetics
19:09 Druidrifle I was hoping to learn to be Canada's criss boden
19:10 Monkeh Druidrifle: You'll have to learn to spell, first. ;)
19:10 BitViper sensor grid as in like keeping track of where everyone is, ie rfid member cards, or just like motion/sound sensors ?
19:10 BitViper either way sounds like fun
19:11 Sgt_Lemming yNos, not being able to see them is a bit harder, they'd have to be embedded in the wall or something
19:11 tgg|wannabe someone know what the livestream is on?
19:11 Sgt_Lemming BitViper, this is temp sensors specifically, but the RFID boards I am working on could be used with temp sensors
19:11 exor674 tgg|wannabe: checking
19:11 exor674 tgg|wannabe: security camera feed
19:12 tgg|wannabe ok
19:12 tgg|wannabe interior/exterior or combo?
19:12 exor674 ad
19:12 exor674 one sec
19:12 Electricguy ooh! i can smell coffee! :3
19:12 BitViper Sgt_Lemming : oh so just tracking the overall environment of the lab
19:12 mashpriborintorg combo
19:12 exor674 combo I think, 1 is blue
19:12 tgg|wannabe ok.  then its whats in the noc.  ok :)
19:12 mashpriborintorg and camrea 1 is borked
19:12 BitViper which can be just as important for economoics
19:12 tgg|wannabe ttul
19:12 tgg|wannabe thx
19:12 Druidrifle Monkey I am half way to tears
19:12 BitViper yNos borked a camera too eh, not just a bc card ? *ducks and runs*
19:13 exor674 1 is blue, 2 is looking outside, 3 looks like it is outside, 4 is no idea, 6 is haas, 7 I think is the one that faces the HV lab, and 8 goes who knows where
19:13 BitViper Druidrifle we are hoping for your next try to be successful
19:13 Druidrifle Same
19:14 exor674 ( what is 8? )
19:14 Electricguy a number :)
19:14 * exor674 thwaps Electricguy
19:14 Electricguy :P
19:15 mashpriborintorg 8 seems to be to rear part of main hall
19:16 Electricguy yeah
19:16 Electricguy HVL in the door up in the left corner
19:16 exor674 ah so it's facing perpendicular to 7?
19:16 Electricguy the stomper controller is standing on the table in the middle
19:17 Electricguy yes
19:17 exor674 okay, I think I visualie now
19:17 mashpriborintorg you can see the same guy at the same time on both
19:18 Electricguy OMNIDOG!
19:18 mashpriborintorg 4 is Batman's vault
19:19 Druidrifle I really wanted to see cell phones get send to hell with 140 million watts
19:19 Electricguy me too
19:19 Electricguy donate some shitty old cellphones ;)
19:19 exor674 3 is... the parking lot outside the MDH?
19:20 Electricguy think so
19:20 BitViper yes that would be from a camera over the garage door
19:20 exor674 Druidrifle: ... iiii, actually have a phone logic board I can send in
19:20 exor674 it's uh, dead though :(
19:20 Druidrifle I have 7 of them
19:20 exor674 well, I guess it WOULD be dead in 5 seconds once they decide to kill it but :P
19:20 Electricguy we need a cellphone that's running when put into stomper
19:21 Electricguy buy one for these 12 dollars cellphones! ;)
19:21 exor674 yeah, I don't have enough parts for a working phone hah
19:21 egrsteve call it when it is killed see what it sounds like
19:22 Druidrifle Bus will be here soon
19:22 exor674 egrsteve: watch and we fuck up the cell tower somehow!
19:22 Electricguy egrsteve, GREAT IDEA :D
19:22 exor674 ( I know how very unlikely that is, but :P )
19:22 egrsteve haha that would be funny
19:22 egrsteve but near impossible
19:23 Electricguy a solid state switch for stomper would be COOL
19:23 Electricguy you'd just hear the noise from the bast chamber :P
19:23 exor674 Electricguy: until we detonate *that*
19:23 Electricguy and don't loose as much energy in the switch
19:24 Electricguy exor674, with enough SCRs it's possible! ;)
19:24 Electricguy or a big enough SCR :P
19:25 Cprossu Druidrifle how goes the saga?
19:25 Druidrifle Ask bit viper I am heading hom
19:25 Cprossu =.(
19:26 Cprossu what happened?!
19:26 exor674 Electricguy: do they have SCRs rated to that?
19:27 Druidrifle Call my cell
19:27 Cprossu will do
19:27 mashpriborintorg ... SCrs for locomotives maybe :p
19:27 Electricguy maybe :P
19:27 mashpriborintorg not available at the local retailer tho
19:27 Electricguy vacuum tubes are also used for switching large amounts of energy
19:27 Electricguy commonly used in those lightning simulation labs
19:28 Electricguy mash, a LOT of TGG's stuff isn't available at the local retailer ;)
19:28 exor674 I was just under the impression those were just charge giant thing and wait for it to jump
19:28 Electricguy brb! coffee :D
19:28 BitViper ok guys, im out for a while, back in a couple hours
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19:32 mashpriborintorg omg this is awesome stuff, the latest giant Wheatsone console http://youtu.be/SYjq3QjkYNI
19:32 BotSteve Title: Wheatstone's Dimension One v1 - YouTube
19:32 yNos wanted.. 8x8(min) led driver(for an 8x8 char set).. I want to network them in an array of 24x80(chars), so they have to have a fairly large address space..
19:33 mashpriborintorg wow, giant led display project ?
19:36 yNos yes :D
19:36 yNos i want to make an IRC wall
19:37 yNos well, a text output wall
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19:37 Sgt_Lemming yNos, large LED displays are... interesting to build
19:37 Druidrifle1 Ok on the bus home
19:38 yNos i was hoping there was a 16 pin 1 wire led driver..
19:38 yNos but it doesnt look like there is.
19:38 Sgt_Lemming not gonna happen, not enough bandwidth
19:38 BatSteve The screensaver should be hackertyper
19:39 BatSteve .g hackertyper
19:39 BotSteve BatSteve: http://hackertyper.net/
19:39 Sgt_Lemming especially once you start adding lots of modules to one bus
19:39 tgg|wannabe yes, i made it into the cb.  happy now?!
19:39 exor674 tgg|wannabe: YES
19:39 Druidrifle1 Cb?
19:39 tgg|wannabe captn's blog
19:40 Druidrifle1 Damn :(
19:40 tgg|wannabe glad you're on your way home.  stay safe greg
19:40 tgg|wannabe only cuz i have a knee brace on and i'm cleaning.  there'll be more
19:40 tgg|wannabe back to work!
19:40 mashpriborintorg ynos, watch this: http://youtu.be/6iHTbGsnI8Q
19:40 BotSteve Title: Outdoor LED Screen teardown (+how to drive LEDs with video) - YouTube
19:40 Druidrifle1 Hmmmm will try
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19:42 yNos Sgt_Lemming: at worst, i was thinking 1 of the tiny pics controlled 4 of these http://www.maxim-ic.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/4206, some multi-drop serial bus to let them all talk..
19:42 BotSteve Title: - Part Number Table - Maxim
19:42 yNos MAX6964
19:42 Sgt_Lemming SPI is probably what you want yNos, reasonably fast but easy to implement and kind of addressable
19:42 yNos mashpriborintorg: too cool
19:43 Sgt_Lemming basically you need 3+n wires for it
19:43 Sgt_Lemming with n being the number of other chips you want to communicate with
19:43 mashpriborintorg his other teardowns are awesome too
19:45 yNos Sgt_Lemming: CE.clock,data,power
19:45 yNos yah?
19:45 Druidrifle1 This bus is taking for ever
19:45 Sgt_Lemming for SPI?
19:45 Sgt_Lemming MOSI, MISO, SCK & SS
19:46 yNos ah
19:46 yNos i am thinking 2 wire..
19:46 yNos i2c
19:46 Sgt_Lemming I suppose if you are only doing text it should be ok
19:47 yNos sdc,sdd,v+,v-
19:47 yNos just text..
19:47 Sgt_Lemming but 8 x 8 is 64 bits, x 15fps x number of modules...
19:47 Sgt_Lemming .tfwc brisbane
19:47 BotSteve 20 degrees C?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Brisbane, AS!  'OPEN A FUCKING WINDOW'
19:48 yNos am not wanting video..
19:49 Druidrifle1 Movement finally
19:49 Sgt_Lemming yNos, what if the line of text is larger than the display though?
19:49 Sgt_Lemming 15fps means you can scroll it across
19:49 yNos no scroll..
19:50 Sgt_Lemming ok
19:50 yNos i was planning on taking a serial out from one of the unix boxen and making a centrall controller tell each of the slaves what char to output.
19:50 Sgt_Lemming http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/AS1115-BSST/AS1115-BSSTCT-ND/2469597 <--- that suit your needs
19:50 BotSteve Title: Digi-Key - AS1115-BSSTCT-ND (Manufacturer - AS1115-BSST)
19:50 Sgt_Lemming I²C bus, can do 8x8 arrays
19:51 yNos can make the unix box take care of line wrapping.
19:51 yNos the parts i have seen so far only have a 2 bit adressing scheme
19:51 yNos the i2c parts..
19:51 yNos mostly maxim parts though..
19:52 Sgt_Lemming I²C isn't really great for large numbers of modules IMHO
19:52 yNos adressing has been the issu..
19:52 yNos agreed
19:52 Sgt_Lemming .w i2c
19:52 BotSteve "I²C ('i-squared cee'; Inter-Integrated Circuit; generically referred to as 'two-wire interface') is a multi-master serial single-ended computer bus invented by Philips that is used to attach low-speed peripherals to a motherboard, embedded system, cellphone, or other [...]" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2c
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19:53 Sgt_Lemming lo SparkyProjects
19:53 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I2c#Limitations
19:53 BotSteve Title: I²C - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:54 SparkyProjects Hi
19:56 Sgt_Lemming yNos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Peripheral_Interface_Bus#Pros_and_cons_of_SPI <--- worth a look
19:56 BotSteve Title: Serial Peripheral Interface Bus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:56 yNos "The two LSB bits of the address byte are the device select bits" another 4 device address range..
19:57 Sgt_Lemming you *can* do SPI without using the SS (slave select) pin, thus only needing 3 pins total
19:57 Sgt_Lemming but it has issues with multiple identical devices on one bus, as SPI is not addressed
19:58 HighMan Hola
19:58 BotSteve roadran422: I have the following messages for you:
19:58 BotSteve At 03:20Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell roadran422 he needs to pack his hw up.. REMEMBER HIS PAGES AND NOTES. 5-ethyl-2,4,7-trimethyl-2,7-decadiene
19:58 HighMan ....
19:59 yNos ce/cs.. same thing(chip eneable/chip select)
20:00 Sgt_Lemming SPI has a Data In (MOSI) and Data Out (MISO) line though
20:00 Sgt_Lemming the 3+n wires I quoted before, doesn't include power
20:00 yNos ah
20:00 yNos i see
20:00 Sgt_Lemming http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fc/SPI_three_slaves.svg/350px-SPI_three_slaves.svg.png <---\
20:00 yNos have read about it's use, but have never needed to use it.
20:01 exor674 SPI always makes me want soup
20:01 Sgt_Lemming the RFID boards will use it for the ethernet module, and also for initial programming via ICSP
20:02 Sgt_Lemming you could always do rs485...
20:02 yNos that was tha ackup plan
20:03 yNos anyone know who bronzefoot is in the forums?
20:04 yNos mah
20:04 yNos time to go home
20:04 yNos later all
20:05 Sgt_Lemming later
20:05 yNos time to go chase the gf around the house.
20:05 HighMan Later yNos!
20:05 HighMan yNos: Why...
20:05 yNos uhhh
20:05 yNos google the phrase
20:05 yNos later all
20:06 Sgt_Lemming he's going to go and chase some gluten free flour around the house
20:06 HighMan :P
20:07 HighMan If it isn't girlfriend... It should of been chase MY girlfriend not the...
20:07 HighMan So ain't that..
20:07 astro73|alice i just had a nice discussion with a colleague about prices of macs vs PCs. He says that the price of mac is right for the quality of its hardware, but that no other company makes hardware of comparable quality.
20:08 Sgt_Lemming bull fucking shit
20:08 HighMan I say macs are too expensive.
20:08 HighMan And you want a decent laptop alienware.
20:08 Sgt_Lemming they are
20:08 Sgt_Lemming noo, high end lenovo for decent laptop
20:08 Sgt_Lemming alienware if you want to game
20:08 astro73|alice I agree, and i just did online spec-for-spec comparisons
20:09 HighMan Is that colleague winning? ;)
20:09 astro73|alice he said that the quality of mac components is superior, but the online bit i can agree on for that si the case.
20:10 astro73|alice that does not justify the $800+ price hike
20:10 HighMan I like to aesthetics of macs, and the UI is simple
20:10 Sgt_Lemming highman, the UI is simple, until you want to do anything advanced.. then it's retarded
20:10 astro73|alice I will agree that Macs are simpler to use and possibly technically superior. But not enough for that price.
20:11 HighMan Well, I haven't done anything crazy avanced. Thing is you can also use bootcamp 2 dual boot.
20:11 Sgt_Lemming like here's a fun one for you, you CANNOT change the DPI of UI elements on OSX
20:11 HighMan ...
20:11 astro73|alice and he might be right. But I can't accept that analysis because it lacked comparison or sources
20:12 astro73|alice i don't know the fair price of apple-grade components because there is no competition.
20:12 tgg|wannabe HighMan: you told me to
20:12 Sgt_Lemming so people go out and buy the 27" iMac, then can't see any damned thing, becuase the 2560 x 1600 screen, uses the same DPI as the 1366 x 768 screen on the 11" macbook air
20:12 Sgt_Lemming it's retarded...
20:13 tgg|wannabe o shit.  airplane slid off  the runway at the airport in town o.o
20:13 astro73|alice meep!
20:13 Electricguy tgg|wannabe, probably due to EMF from stomper ;)
20:14 HighMan tgg|wannabe: Ik.. xD But stupid bot late
20:14 tgg|wannabe lol
20:14 tgg|wannabe no, HighMan, he only tells you when you say something.  if you want to remind you, thats .in
20:14 HighMan Oh... xD
20:14 tgg|wannabe superman is here :D
20:14 HighMan Well I'm good haha
20:14 HighMan I remembered but I forgot my other hw.
20:14 HighMan And bot was borked this morning
20:15 Sgt_Lemming also astro73, some of the claims about their products are laughable
20:15 Electricguy the bot isn't some artificial intelligence :P it's a stupid bot that needs input to put something out :)
20:15 Sgt_Lemming they claim there is a 20w class d amplifier in the iMac's
20:16 Sgt_Lemming but if you take a look at pics of the mobo there is nothing that looks even remotely like that
20:16 Electricguy might be
20:16 Electricguy a 20W class D chip is just a regular DIP package
20:16 Sgt_Lemming the boards are pretty much 100% SMD
20:17 Electricguy there are 2x100Watt class D chips in DIP package, which doesn't need heatsinks
20:17 tgg|wannabe ok back to work
20:17 Electricguy there are SMD class D chips too
20:17 Sgt_Lemming yeah, there is nothing I could identify as one near any of the audio circuitry
20:18 Electricguy this is a 2x300Watt class D amp :P http://shop.41hz.com/images/26.jpg
20:18 Electricguy no heatsink.. ;)
20:19 Electricguy you can buy it here :) http://shop.41hz.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=26
20:19 BotSteve Title: 41Hz Audio:AMP15-PS-XP kit
20:19 Electricguy a guy in sweden that build the boards
20:19 Sgt_Lemming "A casing. As the heat dissipation is low, the casing bottom is usually enough as a heat sink"
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20:20 Electricguy i wonder HOW you reach down with the casing to the chip...
20:21 Sgt_Lemming thermal pad under the board
20:21 Sgt_Lemming seen plenty of cheap amps that do it
20:21 Sgt_Lemming "Heat dissipating components all on bottom of PCB for mounting on casing bottom"
20:21 * Sgt_Lemming notches up a point for himself
20:23 Electricguy but still, that's a 600Watt amp, requires almost no heatsink. a 20Watt amp wouldn't need any heatsink
20:23 Sgt_Lemming it uses the case as a heatsink, if you had no heatsink it would still burn up
20:24 Electricguy ------> requires almost no heatsink <------
20:24 Electricguy ALMOST
20:36 HighMan Csi scares me sometimes
20:38 Sgt_Lemming Electricguy, found the data sheet for it
20:38 Electricguy mkay
20:38 Sgt_Lemming they are 15w at 10%THD
20:38 Sgt_Lemming not exactly what you call a brilliant amp
20:39 Sgt_Lemming and not the 20w apple claimed
20:39 Electricguy holy balls! O_O
20:39 Electricguy that's a REALLY shitty amp
20:39 Sgt_Lemming http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/slos672/slos672.pdf
20:39 Sgt_Lemming 15-W/ch into 8Ω Loads at 10% THD+N From a
20:39 Sgt_Lemming 16V Supply
20:39 Electricguy literally 80's car stereo quality
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20:39 Sgt_Lemming http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-27-apple-imac-2011/6237041?seq=131&amp;tag=content;siu-container#photo-frame <--- and there they are in situ
20:39 BotSteve Title: 27" Apple iMac teardown: Texas Instruments TPA3117 chips | 131 of 138
20:40 Electricguy heh
20:40 Sgt_Lemming "Two internal 20-watt high-efficiency amplifiers" http://www.apple.com/imac/specs.html
20:40 BotSteve Title: Apple - iMac - Compare the 21.5- and 27-inch iMac.
20:40 Sgt_Lemming yay for the apple idiot tax!
20:40 Sgt_Lemming even applies to their spec sheets now apparently :-P
20:41 Electricguy lol
20:43 Sgt_Lemming oi astro73, you still around?
20:45 astro73|alice ohai
20:45 astro73|alice sorry
20:45 astro73|alice sometimes i actually talk to my coworkers
20:45 * angy offers an A to astro73|alice
20:45 Sgt_Lemming s'ok
20:46 astro73|alice what's up?
20:46 Sgt_Lemming might wanna let your workmate know we just looked at one component in the 27" iMac
20:46 Sgt_Lemming it's 15w audio amp, which apple claims is 20w
20:46 astro73|alice i was comparing MacBook Pros, but ok.
20:46 astro73|alice good to know
20:46 Sgt_Lemming and it only get's 15w when 10% of what is coming out is noise
20:47 Sgt_Lemming not exactly a high quality component :-P
20:47 astro73|alice no.
20:47 astro73|alice that's a screw up.
20:48 Sgt_Lemming no kidding :-P
20:48 astro73|alice i wonder how much of it is like that. 1 is interesting, 2 is intriqueing, 3 is a pattern.
20:49 Sgt_Lemming having a look at the 2011 15" macbook as we speak :-P
20:50 astro73|alice what i did was looked up the specs & price for the 17" macbook pro, and then tried to find systems with as close of specs as possible from vaio, lenovo, hp, and dell
20:51 Sgt_Lemming yeah
20:52 astro73|alice PC prices ranged from 1500~1800
20:52 astro73|alice vs Apples 2500
20:53 astro73|alice like i said, in order to know the market value, it must have equivalent competition
20:54 mashpriborintorg g2g, bye
20:54 Sgt_Lemming well you can let him know about the audio thing as well if he says it's the bits they other than the specs etc
20:55 Sgt_Lemming the one thing apple excel at, and I freely admit it, is tech support
20:55 astro73|alice that's good to know. and yes.
20:56 angy my apple computers also tends to last way longer than any dell/IBM I have/had
20:56 Sgt_Lemming angy, my lenovo laptop is 4 years old and still going
20:57 * tgg|wannabe requested a song and it got played :D
20:57 angy my MBPis now 6 years old, I kille two IBM and one Dell in the same time
20:57 BatSteve woohoo day off of work!
20:57 angy Yay!
20:58 astro73|alice but laptops from that era are known to be crap
20:58 astro73|alice and mac's cases are solid. If only because it's 5 layers.
20:59 Sgt_Lemming modern mac cases are one layer
20:59 Sgt_Lemming and aluminium
20:59 Sgt_Lemming they dent really easy
20:59 astro73|alice a friend posted photos of the 5 layers.
20:59 Sgt_Lemming most people I know with an MBP have at least one dent in theirs
20:59 angy mine is rusting currently, but it's still very usable
21:01 astro73|alice brb
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21:03 astro73|alice back
21:03 angy that was fast :)
21:04 * n1mjf disconnected but staying in channel until client reattaches
21:05 jorden what is up with cam 1 ?
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21:16 astro73|alice BotSteve: ask n1mjf to reconfigure his client to not announce when he disconnects.
21:16 BotSteve astro73|alice: I'll pass that on when n1mjf is around.
21:17 jorden hi all what hapend to cam 1 on the livefeed
21:17 Electricguy LOLOLOLOL! Anonymous hacked cia.gov over an hour ago
21:17 Electricguy it's still down
21:17 HighMan lol
21:30 HighMan .w und
21:30 BotSteve "Und is a village in Győr-Moson-Sopron county, Hungary." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Und
21:30 HighMan .define und
21:30 BotSteve Couldn't get any definitions for und.
21:30 astro73|alice Electricguy: they took down a poster put up the the CIA?
21:30 astro73|alice also, i'm done and gone!
21:31 angy .cookie astro73|alice
21:31 BotSteve Here you go, astro73|alice, I baked you a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie!
21:31 BatSteve They tore down a poster put up by the CIA?
21:31 BatSteve ...poop, astro73 beat me to it
21:31 angy .tiny-chocolate-plane BatSteve
21:31 BatSteve hi angy
21:31 BatSteve ?
21:32 angy you don't like tiny chocolate plane?
21:37 angy .cookie BatSteve
21:37 BotSteve Here you go, BatSteve, I baked you a double chocolate cookie!
21:37 angy have a cookie then :)
21:37 BatSteve (grin)
21:37 angy you won't be invited at the next botparty!
21:37 Electricguy CAKE OR DEATH!?
21:38 Electricguy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNjcuZ-LiSY
21:38 BotSteve Title: Eddie izzard-cake or death - YouTube
21:44 BitViper wait so the cake isnt a lie, its a lizard ?
21:44 * BitViper hides
21:44 Coderjoe hacked or just aimed a LOIC at it?
21:45 Coderjoe also, I am hatin the weather.
21:45 Coderjoe stupid winter weather advisory
21:46 BitViper Coderjoe : this weather is nuffin, just flurries
21:46 Monkeh angy: .. Rusting?
21:46 Coderjoe what's your location?
21:46 angy yes rusting
21:46 Coderjoe also: http://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/wwatxtget.php?cwa=grr&amp;wwa=winter%20weather%20advisory
21:46 BotSteve Title: National Weather Service Watch Warning Advisory Summary
21:47 Monkeh angy: .. they're meant to be alu.
21:47 BitViper Coderjoe : im an hour north of the lab
21:47 angy aluminum rusts as well
21:47 angy it's not reserved to steel
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21:47 Monkeh angy: Rust is.
21:47 Coderjoe BitViper: you're outside the WWA area
21:47 LeePod Hi
21:47 Coderjoe http://forecast.weather.gov/wwamap/hwy/grr-is.gif
21:47 Coderjoe see the purple?
21:47 Coderjoe er
21:47 BitViper Coderjoe : just barely but ive been watching the alerts, i get them shortly after the media does
21:48 Monkeh angy: Is this rust?http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a3/Verdigris.JPG
21:48 Coderjoe layerd image. yay
21:48 Monkeh Bah, missing spacebar.
21:48 Coderjoe http://www.crh.noaa.gov/grr/
21:48 BotSteve Title: National Weather Service Forecast Office - Grand Rapids, MI
21:48 BitViper yea i have my radar up, looks like grand rapids is getting all the good stuff, feel free to send it north
21:48 Coderjoe barely? you're in BR, right? you're half a county north of the advisories
21:48 LeePod .seen wannabe1987
21:48 BotSteve LeePod: I last saw tgg|wannabe 0.86 hours ago at 2012-02-10 20:57:08 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:48:42 UTC
21:49 Sgt_Lemming http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/
21:49 BotSteve Title: Mike's Electric Stuff
21:49 Coderjoe as far as I am concerned you can have it. and the low temps tonight as well
21:49 BitViper Coderjoe : im east of BR, im about 8 miles north of montcalm
21:49 LeePod Ttyl
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21:49 BatSteve .radar
21:49 BotSteve BatSteve: http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?rid=grr&amp;product=NCR&amp;overlay=11101111&amp;loop=yes
21:49 angy aluminum don't rust as it don't develop  Fe2O3-nHéO
21:49 angy it oxidize, but we all say rust for it
21:49 Monkeh Which is wrong
21:50 Coderjoe bah
21:50 Coderjoe composite
21:50 angy none of my coworkers care for it, and we all are material engineers
21:50 BitViper http://alpha.mctech.org/~ryan/radar/GRR_radar.pl my own set of overlays for MI
21:50 BitViper and http://www.mctech.org/earthwatch/weather2/ for radars of all US
21:50 BotSteve Title: mcTech Weather v2
21:54 Monkeh angy: Corrosion, dear. :P
21:55 angy Monkeh: depend on what you talk exactly, the ombrella term is indeed corrosion
21:55 Monkeh angy: As opposed to rust which is very specifically iron oxides. :P
21:56 * tgg|wannabe goes in search of clean air
21:56 Monkeh angy: Things can't be rust coloured if rust includes green and white. :)
21:56 angy rust is used for all sort of corosion
21:56 Monkeh Inappropriately
21:56 angy white rust exists
21:56 BitViper tgg|wannabe : did you get those measurements before the snow set in ?
21:57 Monkeh angy: Which oxide is that?
21:57 angy Zn oxide, and it /is/ called rust
21:57 Phu behold the awesome power of my comms multiplexing mojo
21:57 tgg|wannabe nope....it was snowing when i got here :P
21:57 Phu or something
21:57 BitViper =( oh well
21:57 Phu as I route a telephone line and 100Mbps LAN link down the same cat5 cable ;)
21:58 tgg|wannabe i slipped and slid my way here :)
21:58 tgg|wannabe totally worth it
21:58 tgg|wannabe and dog's gonna get fat
21:58 BitViper tgg|wannabe : wouldnt driving have been better ? *ducks*
21:58 tgg|wannabe liz feeds dog cookie
21:58 tgg|wannabe i tried to drive!
21:58 * tgg|wannabe throws dog cookie at you
21:58 BitViper hehehe
21:59 tgg|wannabe go fetch!
21:59 BitViper woof
21:59 tgg|wannabe why does everytime we have zomb it snow like hell?
21:59 tgg|wannabe wtf is up with snow and zombies?!
21:59 masterofmonks .wik dead snow
21:59 BotSteve "Dead Snow (Norwegian: Død snø) is a 2009 Norwegian horror film directed by Tommy Wirkola, starring Charlotte Frogner, Stig Frode Henriksen, Bjørn Sundquist, Ane Dahl Torp and Jenny Skavlan." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Snow
21:59 BitViper i didnt figure it would snow in hell, then again hell did freeze over this morning
22:00 tgg|wannabe true
22:00 angy Monkeh: http://144.206.159.178/FT/978/562202/12311829.pdf
22:00 BatSteve I've seen that actually
22:01 angy rust on non-iron alloys
22:01 tgg|wannabe BatSteve: what, hell freeze over?
22:01 BatSteve No, "Dead Snow"
22:01 tgg|wannabe lol
22:02 Monkeh angy: Technically incorrect usage. :P
22:02 tgg|wannabe stomper takes 7 minutes 35 seconds to run full cycle so far....trying to get it sub 3 min, but its sand handling thats taking a while
22:02 BitViper I dont want to see living snow, normal snow is enough fun
22:02 angy Monkeh: yeah, go after Surface and Coating Technology for that
22:02 Monkeh angy: Rust always used to mean and to me still does mean iron oxides.
22:03 BitViper they need to engineer a device to pump the sand back into the top automaticly, perhaps with a little filtering in the process
22:03 angy Monkeh: you're wrong, but you will never admit it
22:03 tgg|wannabe yeah....
22:03 tgg|wannabe or they just need to dig through the sand for the quarter :P
22:03 Monkeh angy: I admit common usage uses rust to refer to all corrosion.
22:03 angy Monkeh: rust /is/ used for some very particular Zn oxydes
22:04 angy that is not iran, and it /is/ a usage, not common, but recognize by every scientific instances
22:04 BitViper tgg|wannabe : hrm, how about this idea ... build a heavy wire "cage" that goes around the sample, which can simply be pulled out with the sample
22:04 BitViper then only half of the sand would need to be cycled
22:05 tgg|wannabe why would it need to be cycled anyway?
22:05 BitViper in order to get to the attachment points to hook up the next cycle
22:05 BitViper *sample
22:06 tgg|wannabe ah.  why are they so far in?
22:06 BitViper so there's good containment above htem
22:06 Coderjoe BitViper: apparently, to the (few) residents of Hell, for Hell to freeze over, the water going of the dam spillway must freeze.
22:06 BitViper it has been noted that the sand is probably not necessary at all, but better to be safe
22:07 tgg|wannabe makes sense
22:07 Monkeh angy: Get them to update the Oxford English Dictionary with that for me.
22:07 * BitViper looks at Coderjoe and facepalms =)
22:08 angy Monkeh: if you trust dictionaries, you're doomed
22:08 tgg|wannabe omni follows people with food :D
22:08 tgg|wannabe she's following doug atm
22:08 Monkeh angy: I also trust in my education that rust refers to iron oxides, but if the scientific community wants to butcher it like the technology world has the kilo, it can feel free.
22:09 angy Monkeh: what is your education?
22:09 angy Monkeh: you know you are currently attacking on my line of work there?
22:09 Monkeh angy: I attack all sorts of lines of work, it's not personal.
22:09 Monkeh angy: I deal with computers and I still utterly refuse to accept that kilo means 1024 in the computer world because of laziness.
22:10 angy yeah, but you may want to know that corrosion used to be exactly my line of work for a few years, so I kind of know what I am talking about
22:10 Cheezmo Zozoious, you around?
22:10 angy and that rust is not only iron oxides
22:10 Monkeh angy: Fair enough, I'll still use it as such.
22:10 angy we all use rust abusively, but it's abusive to say that rust is only iron oxydes
22:11 Monkeh Otherwise 'rusty' loses some meaning.
22:11 Coderjoe i think it is more trying to shave a few (expensive at the time) CPU cycles than laziness
22:11 Monkeh Coderjoe: No, they just stole the prefix because it was fairly close.
22:11 angy I even thing I can make a few Al alloy rusting without including iron with the right usage of rust in the sentense
22:11 Zozoious whats up?
22:12 * Coderjoe stops talking about the subject before another "holy war" argument about it erupts
22:12 Monkeh Coderjoe: Too busy driving tanks, so: kilo is 1000, end of. ;)
22:13 BitViper imo definition of kilo/mega/etc is context dependant, if talking computers then its 1024, otherwise its 1000
22:13 Zozoious Cheezmo, im here whats up?
22:13 Monkeh BitViper: Context dependency is entirely against the whole idea of a universal system.
22:13 Coderjoe as silly as the prefixes sound, I prefer the accuracy of kibbi to the confusion of overloading kilo
22:14 angy I agree with Monkeh on that one, oil is supposed to be 10^3
22:14 Cheezmo Zozoious, I was lookin to get some privelages on the minecraft server o:
22:14 Zozoious send in a request in game
22:14 BitViper Coderjoe : i agree Coderjoe, but good luck with getting those terms into common usage
22:14 Cheezmo did~
22:14 Zozoious alright cool
22:14 tgg|wannabe time to go back to work....i guess.
22:14 tgg|wannabe altho i'm hungry
22:14 Monkeh Coderjoe: As I've said before, I'll start selling sugar in 840g packets marked '1kG' with fineprint redefining the kilo. Just for my sugar. Because I can.
22:14 tgg|wannabe and de ja vu....
22:14 Monkeh Coderjoe: If it's acceptable to redefine units defined for centuries out of whimsy.
22:15 BitViper its not whimsy, computers dont work on 1000, they work on 1024
22:15 Monkeh BitViper: Get Windows to display KiB/MiB/GiB and quickly enough thigns will change.
22:15 BitViper lets see you redefine THAT
22:15 Monkeh BitViper: Why should I? That's correct.
22:15 Coderjoe no, they work on 2
22:15 Monkeh BitViper: But using kilo as 1024 is not.
22:16 BitViper Coderjoe : if you want to be that picky they work on 10 =P
22:16 Coderjoe *facepalm*
22:16 BitViper why cant kilo/mega be context sensitive like half the rest of the english language
22:16 angy because it comes from french
22:17 BitViper *facepalm*
22:17 Monkeh BitViper: Because they're not the English language, they're internationally defined units.
22:17 BitViper *facepalm*
22:17 angy you are using the SI system, but do you know what SI stands for?
22:17 Coderjoe because context sensitivity leads to confusion and misunderstanding
22:17 BitViper and disk and memory sizes defined in 1000's arent ?
22:17 angy hard drives are
22:17 Monkeh BitViper: They're only confusing if you don't understand the difference between misuse and proper use.
22:18 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/uLi1G.jpg <-- DONE!!
22:18 BitViper which means most of the population
22:18 Coderjoe and here we are again.
22:18 * Coderjoe shuts the monitor off and goes to finish getting ready to leave
22:18 Monkeh Coderjoe: Just between games. ;P
22:18 * BitViper follows Coderjoe
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22:28 Electricguy bedtime. night all
22:28 angy night
23:09 ^Prophet^ this is ranbdom
23:09 ^Prophet^ but
23:10 ^Prophet^ someone told me i was going to hell because i havent taken jesus as my savor
23:10 ^Prophet^ to which i replied, ill take the medical system as my savor
23:10 ^Prophet^ and they slapped me >.>
23:10 BitViper ROTFL
23:13 Cprossu hrmmm
23:14 Cprossu they _slapped_ you?!
23:14 Cprossu that's assault!
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23:26 tgg|wannabe o.O
23:26 tgg|wannabe i would never slap somoene for that....holy shit
23:28 Monkeh Cprossu: Man, I wish I could get nuts like that to attack me.
23:28 * Monkeh could use an excuse to break fingers from time to time
23:29 Monkeh Cprossu: So how's things?
23:34 exor674 http://i.imgur.com/lNgot.jpg
23:37 * tgg|wannabe meows @ exor674
23:38 * exor674 licks tgg|wannabe onna jose
23:38 exor674 nose!
23:38 tgg|wannabe :)
23:38 * tgg|wannabe is unsure of the location of her jose
23:38 tgg|wannabe :P
23:38 exor674 don't make me bite you
23:38 tgg|wannabe d'awwww
23:38 Monkeh tgg|wannabe: Don't go looking for it, you may not like what you find
23:39 tgg|wannabe lol
23:39 tgg|wannabe ok
23:40 Monkeh tgg|wannabe: And I have no idea when I'll make it over there :{
23:40 tgg|wannabe awwww
23:40 Monkeh Really annoyed I didn't make it now, seeing as they're hiring!
23:41 tgg|wannabe ?
23:41 Monkeh tgg|wannabe: HV lab techs. ie. stomper operators.
23:41 tgg|wannabe ahhhh
23:41 tgg|wannabe well, we have "winding bitches" in the winding room...
23:42 tgg|wannabe the minecraft lab needs to be updated!!!!!
23:43 Monkeh tgg|wannabe: It pays, it keeps you at the lab. I want that job. :{
23:43 tgg|wannabe Cprossu/Zozoious - theres been a room modified in the lab...has desks and stuff in it
23:43 tgg|wannabe apply anyway?
23:43 Monkeh tgg|wannabe: I don't quite meet the 'local' requirements at present
23:43 tgg|wannabe ah
23:43 Monkeh Be easier to figure out accomodation if I were actually there.
23:44 tgg|wannabe i never saw the ad
23:45 tgg|wannabe bodens leaving.  i made the cb opening....
23:45 Monkeh Awesome.
23:45 tgg|wannabe and then ending
23:45 tgg|wannabe and the middle
23:45 tgg|wannabe and yeah....
23:45 tgg|wannabe i was cleaning so yeah it happens
23:46 Monkeh tgg|wannabe: Does the blog consist of him sticking the camera in your face and saying you're famous on the internets?
23:46 tgg|wannabe no
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23:46 tgg|wannabe it consists of him telling me something i already know, me telling him things, and him saying i did cleaning
23:50 * BitViper waits for the epic cleaning video LOL
23:51 tgg|wannabe thanks
23:51 BitViper btw feel free to send any unwanted snow up here
23:52 BitViper its been snowing all day and we still have barely enough to cover the sidewalks =(
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23:52 * BitViper wants to wake up in the morning and not be able to tell which car is which
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23:53 tgg|wannabe we have more snow than you?!  odd
23:53 tgg|wannabe and soops is here :D
23:54 BitViper yes you guys are hogging all the snow as usual
23:56 tgg|wannabe come get it yourself.  i'm not driving up there...
23:56 BitViper lol
23:56 tgg|wannabe cricket is carrying a HUGE pipe...

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