Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-02-23

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00:01 tonsofpcs hi tlockley
00:02 tonsofpcs freenode is turning into 1997's dalnet
00:02 tlockley oh?
00:02 tonsofpcs server failures
00:02 tlockley ah
00:02 tlockley does 6gb of swap seem overkill to you?
00:03 tonsofpcs depends
00:04 tlockley i have 6GB of ram in the computer
00:04 tlockley also for some reason the kFreeBSD installer keeps failing when it tries to mount the swap space it just created(if it created it)
00:05 tonsofpcs how about 8 - 12?
00:05 tlockley for swap?
00:05 tonsofpcs ya
00:06 tlockley well at the moment i am having issues makeing it 6G as for some reason the instaler wont mount the swap partition or make it i cant tell which
00:07 tonsofpcs boot cd check parts?
00:07 tlockley its usb drive from an iso image
00:07 tonsofpcs no, to see if it makes them
00:08 tlockley i dont follow
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00:13 BitViper sweet, storm watch out for me, 4-6 inches of snow tomorow afternoon/night (which probably means perhaps an inch or two at most)
00:14 wannabe1987 were gonna get snow too
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00:17 wannabe1987 i broke a nail playing lego :/
00:17 * wannabe1987 pokes Toastdude
00:17 HighMan wannabe1987: Great job...
00:17 Toastdude Ouch...
00:17 wannabe1987 :(
00:18 wannabe1987 i didn't poke your mouth....
00:18 wannabe1987 did you like my status update from masterofmonks?
00:19 tlockley finally
00:20 Toastdude Yes...
00:20 masterofmonks Heh.
00:20 wannabe1987 what?
00:21 masterofmonks I was unaware of it until now.
00:21 wannabe1987 lol
00:21 wannabe1987 cuz i didn't tag you
00:21 HighMan .....
00:22 HighMan No New CB :(
00:22 masterofmonks There goes the neighborhood.
00:22 HighMan ...
00:23 HighMan masterofmonks: Is there a way to kick anyone who hasn't been on for like 3 days/
00:23 tlockley joined #thegeekgroup
00:23 masterofmonks Been on what?
00:23 tlockley that was fun
00:23 HighMan The IRC
00:23 Istas You mean idle?
00:23 masterofmonks Why would you want to?
00:23 HighMan Sure
00:24 HighMan Just to see how many people are "really" in the room
00:24 masterofmonks What client are you using?
00:24 HighMan Pidgin
00:24 HighMan Why?
00:24 masterofmonks Yeah, you client is to dumb to speak real IRC commands.
00:24 HighMan I like the UI :P
00:25 tlockley bleh
00:25 * masterofmonks refrains from comment.
00:25 Toastdude Is XChat too dumb? :P
00:25 masterofmonks Toastdude, No.
00:25 Toastdude Oh, cool
00:25 HighMan masterofmonks: :P XCHAT looks like shit
00:25 tlockley HighMan: you on windows?
00:25 masterofmonks HighMan, Can't help it you don't understand functionality.
00:25 HighMan tlockley: Yes
00:26 HighMan masterofmonks: :P I don't need any thing else. I'll compromise UI for Features as this is basic.
00:26 masterofmonks Also the pidgin UI is crap.
00:26 HighMan It atleast looks decent.
00:27 BitViper pidgin for irc SUCKS
00:27 HighMan Not like some 60s military command prompt
00:27 HighMan Maybe 80s ..
00:27 tlockley whats wrong with that
00:27 masterofmonks Neither is X-Chat...
00:27 BitViper but ive done worse, i used to do irc by telnet
00:27 HighMan ...Looks like crap
00:27 tlockley o_O
00:27 masterofmonks BitViper, that is pain.
00:27 BitViper understatement mom
00:27 HighMan Sounds like liquid pain
00:27 Toastdude To you, maybe, but I kinda like the look of a terminal..
00:28 masterofmonks BitViper, I know the pain.
00:28 masterofmonks I have telnetted into IRC
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00:28 HighMan XD I was looing up XCHAT and under the download, it says TarBalls.
00:28 HighMan masterofmonks: Link?
00:28 BitViper mom ... a great way to learn the inner workings of irc
00:28 masterofmonks For what?
00:28 HighMan xchat
00:28 masterofmonks BitViper, So is reading 1459
00:28 HighMan .g xchat
00:28 BotSteve HighMan: http://xchat.org/
00:28 BitViper mom : and wonder how in hell it all manages to work
00:29 HighMan "You may use XChat for Windows for free for 30 days."
00:29 HighMan Uh..
00:29 masterofmonks http://www.silverex.org/download/
00:29 BotSteve Title: X-Chat 2 for Windows
00:29 HighMan Ok..
00:29 SparkyProjects Just like browsers and operating systems, it's all personal choice, if it works, why change ?
00:29 HighMan ME.
00:30 masterofmonks SparkyProjects, because he wants to know things his client can't tell him.
00:30 * HighMan downloading it
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00:31 wannabe1987 JA12!
00:31 JA12 morning
00:31 Roadran422 joined #thegeekgroup
00:31 wannabe1987 ev ening, fine sir
00:31 HighMan left #thegeekgroup
00:32 JA12 true. I woke up too early
00:32 Roadran422 masterofmonks done
00:32 * Roadran422 Testing
00:32 Roadran422 .cake
00:32 BotSteve Here you go, Roadran422, I baked you a butterscotch walnut cake!
00:32 masterofmonks Type the following command.
00:32 wannabe1987 JA12, what time is it?
00:32 masterofmonks /who #thegeekgroup
00:32 JA12 [02:32:36] <wannabe1987> JA12, what time is it?
00:32 Roadran422 /who #thegeekgroup
00:32 wannabe1987 ahhh
00:32 Roadran422 And?
00:32 masterofmonks Without the space...
00:33 Monkeh Roadran422: Why does it matter what the client looks like?
00:33 Roadran422 masterofmonks, And...
00:33 Monkeh Roadran422: You have a box with text, a box you put text in, and a couple of boxes listing users and channels.
00:33 Monkeh Roadran422: It.. just displays text.
00:33 masterofmonks Roadran422, that was the answer to the question you asked.
00:33 Roadran422 Monkeh, Let me ask you something.
00:33 Roadran422 FIRST. STUPID POP UP BOX HOW?
00:33 Roadran422 Nvm
00:33 Roadran422 Got it
00:34 Roadran422 masterofmonks, Didn't work.
00:34 masterofmonks Roadran422, it did, you just don't know where to look for it.
00:34 SparkyProjects When there was a majot netsplit where it left only 2 in the room, it wasn't long before the majority were back, some of those i would guess have automatic reconnect, so trying to find how many are in the room daily would be impossible
00:34 Roadran422 Monkeh, So... Let's put this in to perspective. If you had a 2 cups of water, and 1 was dyed brown. Which would you drink?
00:35 Monkeh Roadran422: .. Assuming the dye is safe (food dye), whichever suits my purposes.
00:35 Roadran422 ..
00:35 Roadran422 MASTEROFMONKS!
00:35 masterofmonks Roadran422.
00:35 Monkeh SparkyProjects: That's what stats are for.
00:35 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Poll number of uses every five minutes. Plot graph.
00:35 Roadran422 HOW DO I SEND A PM!?!??!
00:35 masterofmonks Use the command for it.
00:35 Roadran422 ...
00:35 masterofmonks Oh, that's right, you don't understand IRC
00:35 BitViper Roadran422 : /msg <user> <text>
00:36 wannabe1987 someones playing piano....
00:36 wannabe1987 its nifty
00:36 Monkeh Or right click on a name and it's self explanatory from there
00:36 wannabe1987 but.............
00:36 Monkeh Y'know, basic GUI usage.
00:36 Roadran422 NO NEW WINDOW?
00:36 dbshortwave god dont teach him that
00:36 Monkeh We've been using these for 20 years.
00:36 wannabe1987 i dunno if we're supposed to touch the piano
00:36 Monkeh It's not complex.
00:36 wannabe1987 don;'t holler!
00:36 masterofmonks Roadran422, New windows or tabs.
00:36 Istas Maybe you could turn off caps lock for me?
00:37 Seroster masterofmonks, I actually prefer mIRC over Xchat
00:37 BitViper mirc over everything
00:37 SparkyProjects I log in not long after i get up, and am online till i go to bed, many times i could be online for hours without saying anything.
00:37 masterofmonks Seroster, Well yes, but you also like making love to chainsaws.
00:37 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I never leave.
00:37 * Roadran422 Kills my self.
00:37 Seroster Aye, SparkyProjects.
00:37 Monkeh SparkyProjects: I'm here even if my computer isn't on.
00:37 Roadran422 Derp.
00:37 Roadran422 BitViper, Say something
00:38 BitViper something
00:38 wannabe1987 i love smartasses :D
00:38 Roadran422 ... I'm testing ignore.
00:38 SparkyProjects Exactly Monkeh, that would screw up any activity check
00:38 Roadran422 ...
00:38 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Not really, there's lots of ways to do it.
00:38 Monkeh SparkyProjects: Use my logs: They go back to the day I joined this channel with very few gaps. It's very easy to parse them.
00:39 Monkeh You can build stats out of that very easily
00:39 Roadran422 BitViper, say something
00:39 BitViper i already did
00:39 Roadran422 Ignore.. Won't work..
00:39 Roadran422 hmm.
00:39 Monkeh Roadran422: Probably because you're doing it wrong.
00:39 Roadran422 BitViper, Now
00:39 BitViper why
00:40 Roadran422 Monkeh, I do /ignore "~nobody@64.58.200.25" (no quotes) and all
00:40 Roadran422 It doesn't work.... and that "~nobody@64.58.200.25" is bitvipers...
00:40 Monkeh Yes, you're doing it wrong.
00:40 Roadran422 ...
00:43 masterofmonks Roadran422, type /help ignore
00:43 Roadran422 I did...
00:43 Roadran422 So masterofmonks yours is
00:43 Roadran422 ~Elim@67.158.154.15
00:43 Monkeh masterofmonks: He read it and did not understand.
00:43 masterofmonks How?
00:43 Roadran422 /ignore ~Elim@67.158.154.15 all
00:44 Roadran422 But... It doesn't ignore..
00:44 Roadran422 say something
00:44 masterofmonks Because you aren't telling it what to ignore.
00:44 Roadran422 Everything... (All)
00:44 Ponko left #thegeekgroup
00:45 Monkeh masterofmonks: Yes, and he still doesn't get what he's missing.
00:45 Roadran422 The options?
00:45 Roadran422 test now?
00:45 Roadran422 masterofmonks, Say something...
00:46 Toastdude Hey roadran, guess what?
00:47 Roadran422 Toastdude, Yah?
00:47 Toastdude Darn...
00:47 Toastdude Nevermind
00:47 wannabe1987 lol
00:47 Istas Hah.
00:47 Roadran422 Ok Toastdude
00:47 Toastdude Wait, I remember
00:47 Toastdude Hi.
00:47 Roadran422 Hi
00:48 Istas Picture of outside here, with fresh snow on the trees.  http://oi41.tinypic.com/f0x4qs.jpg
00:48 tonsofpcs snow!!
00:48 wannabe1987 ugh
00:48 Roadran422 Snow!
00:48 Istas It was quite blustery all day, with rain lots of last night and this morning, then snow squalls this afternoon.
00:48 wannabe1987 .tfw tgg
00:48 BotSteve 38 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Your source of crude weather!'
00:49 tonsofpcs where is Istas ?
00:49 wannabe1987 montana
00:49 Istas Western Montana.
00:49 Seroster .c 38f to sane
00:49 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
00:49 Seroster O, sorry.
00:49 wannabe1987 hahaha
00:49 Seroster .c 38f to c
00:49 BotSteve 3.33333333 degrees Celsius
00:49 wannabe1987 lol to "sane"
00:49 tonsofpcs .c 38f to rankine
00:49 BotSteve 497.67 rankine
00:49 Toastdude Wait, roadran
00:49 tonsofpcs sane enough?
00:49 wannabe1987 .c 38f to kelvin
00:49 BotSteve 276.483333 kelvin
00:49 Seroster wannabe1987, Farenheit aint sane.
00:50 wannabe1987 lets see if that works
00:50 wannabe1987 someone make him talk
00:51 Toastdude Roadran422
00:51 Seroster Yo roadran
00:51 Seroster Did I mention I am not a dude?
00:52 BotSteve Wait... You aint?
00:52 Istas ...
00:52 * BitViper thinks Seroster has no idea what it is
00:52 wannabe1987 shhhh
00:52 * Istas looks at BotSteve.
00:52 Seroster lol
00:52 Seroster what what is?
00:52 BitViper Seroster : what a Seroster is
00:52 Toastdude .seen Roadran422
00:52 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw Roadran422 0.07 hours ago at 2012-02-23 00:48:47 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:52:59 UTC
00:53 BitViper aka what you is
00:53 tonsofpcs .seen a-boden
00:53 BotSteve Sorry, I haven't seen a-boden around.
00:53 Monkeh BitViper: Please leave my language alone. :P
00:53 Seroster I-am You-are He/She/It-is We-are You-are They-are
00:53 wannabe1987 "he is tri-sexual"
00:53 Seroster YOU ARE.
00:53 Roadran422 Toastdude, Why?
00:53 tonsofpcs Seroster: you're a beatle now?
00:53 BitViper Monkeh : your language ? eh ? O_O
00:54 tonsofpcs BitViper: german? french?
00:54 * BitViper thinks Seroster is of 'morph' gender, being whatever is suitable at the moment
00:54 * wannabe1987 cracks up over here
00:55 tonsofpcs let's resolve this now, in the only way the Internet knows how:
00:55 tonsofpcs "tits or gtfo"
00:55 Seroster Waitwhat. Why?
00:56 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: btdt, posted them.....not again!
00:56 masterofmonks Spatula.
00:56 tonsofpcs lol
00:56 Toastdude Yay!
00:56 Seroster /mode #thegeekgroup +wtf masterofmonks
00:56 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: spatulas make good pancakes
00:56 masterofmonks Seroster, private discussion.
00:56 masterofmonks tonsofpcs, damn straight they do, but only if you have a good frying pan.
00:57 BitViper time for Seroster to do a live topless webstream, maybe drunk too
00:57 HighMan joined #thegeekgroup
00:57 HighMan I'm testing something
00:57 Seroster Yeah... NSFW room, BitViper  =P
00:57 BitViper that place is scary
00:57 tonsofpcs omg!  button on woot!
00:58 HighMan test
00:58 HighMan test
00:58 HighMan test
00:58 HighMan test
00:58 HighMan test
00:58 HighMan tes
00:58 HighMan Yep ignore works
00:58 Toastdude ......
00:58 HighMan left #thegeekgroup
00:58 Roadran422 Toastdude, Testing out ignore command
00:58 Toastdude ....
00:58 masterofmonks Wait, he ignored himself.
00:58 Roadran422 No..
00:59 tonsofpcs go somewhere else forthat lest we all 'test' ignore.
00:59 wannabe1987 what?
00:59 Monkeh masterofmonks: He still doesn't know how to use it properly
00:59 Roadran422 masterofmonks, I logged on to pidgin as a different username
00:59 Seroster Pidgin?
00:59 masterofmonks So you ignored yourself.
00:59 tonsofpcs lol
00:59 Seroster /kick Roadran422 for improper client
00:59 Roadran422 I can't change my nick damit.
00:59 Seroster YEAH
00:59 Monkeh Yes you can
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00:59 Seroster That's what you get for using pidgin
00:59 Roadran422 /nick
00:59 masterofmonks /nick yournewnick
01:00 Roadran422 Nothing
01:00 Seroster Amateurs, don't use the space before...
01:00 Roadran422 Nada
01:00 Seroster /command < how its properly done
01:00 tonsofpcs /quit newnick here
01:00 Roadran422 tonsofpcs, I've used that before derp
01:01 wannabe1987 lol
01:01 Roadran422 Test
01:01 Roadran422 Hi Seroster
01:01 Roadran422 Ok..
01:01 Roadran422 I think I ignored the whole channell...
01:01 Monkeh Oh, good.
01:01 Roadran422 :P
01:02 Istas If only it were the other way around.
01:02 Roadran422 ...
01:02 Roadran422 That'd be /mode Roadran422 +q
01:02 masterofmonks As you request.
01:02 Monkeh Roadran422: No, that'd be /mode +q Roadran422!*@*
01:03 Monkeh aww.
01:03 masterofmonks Monkeh, you can have one if you want too.
01:03 Monkeh masterofmonks: Also, set +z, it's often funny.
01:03 Roadran422 I am identified. Yet can't change damn nick.
01:03 Monkeh masterofmonks: Sure, just use the example I just wrote out.
01:03 lwq1996 ah good nap :3
01:03 Monkeh Identifying has nothing to do with changing nick
01:04 Roadran422 v
01:04 Roadran422 It doesn't matter. I can't change it. period.
01:04 Monkeh I know.
01:04 Roadran422 .
01:04 Monkeh I know exactly why you can't change it.
01:04 Roadran422 ?
01:04 Roadran422 Why
01:04 Monkeh I'm waiting for you to figure that out.
01:04 Monkeh I may need a new book.
01:04 * Istas pauses channel chat while he goes afk for a few.
01:04 * Roadran422 Checks freenode. Who the hell is... OH PIDGIN!
01:05 HighMan Derp
01:05 * HighMan Facepalms.
01:05 HighMan So... That's what the freenode channel is for!
01:05 masterofmonks Monkeh, How about RFC 2812
01:06 Monkeh masterofmonks: I really should read that some time
01:06 masterofmonks http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/rfc/
01:06 BotSteve Title: Internet Relay Chat Protocol
01:06 HighMan Shit
01:06 Monkeh masterofmonks: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2812 :P
01:06 HighMan ... wtf is /say for?
01:06 * HighMan Test
01:06 BotSteve Title: RFC 2812 - Internet Relay Chat: Client Protocol
01:06 HighMan help /say
01:06 HighMan /say is usless
01:07 Monkeh masterofmonks: RFCs make for interesting reading, actually.
01:07 tonsofpcs BRUN isn't valid in words with friends  :(
01:07 Monkeh masterofmonks: It's funny when you bring them up with people flailing around with simple things when they proclaim to know what they're talking about.
01:08 HighMan xchat isn't that bad afterall
01:08 masterofmonks HA!
01:08 Monkeh masterofmonks: Think we should make him use irssi?
01:08 wannabe1987 ....
01:08 masterofmonks Monkeh, I am a sadist, but not that much of one.
01:08 Monkeh masterofmonks: :)
01:08 BitViper it could be worse, he could use ms chat
01:09 Monkeh I know lots of people using irssi, I just cba.
01:09 Monkeh Used to xchat.
01:09 masterofmonks BitViper, PuTTy
01:09 BitViper masterofmonks : GAH
01:09 BitViper mom, i also used to irc from dos
01:09 Monkeh masterofmonks: minicom.
01:10 masterofmonks Monkeh, Having read all of the IRC RFCs many times I can tell you that they can be stupidly dry and borning.
01:10 Monkeh masterofmonks: try PPP.
01:10 masterofmonks boring*
01:10 Monkeh masterofmonks: There's quite a few of those.
01:10 masterofmonks Monkeh, +++ATH0
01:10 * wannabe1987 fails
01:11 BitViper wannabe1987 : fail, and fail often, its the way to learn
01:11 BitViper its a THING
01:11 masterofmonks Anything worth doing is worth absolutley sucking at until you get it right.
01:11 HighMan masterofmonks, It's not that bad... Just what's the back ground on yours?
01:11 wannabe1987 but when your helpers are 1) in NC and 2) theres no remote log in software yet, it sucks
01:11 masterofmonks Like my spelling when I need more coffee.
01:12 BitViper anything worth doing is worth doing over and over and over and over and over and over and ...
01:12 HighMan ...
01:12 * wannabe1987 shoots BitViper
01:14 * BitViper sprays blood all over the channel
01:14 Monkeh masterofmonks: Try reading the DHCP RFCs, writing a compliant client... then sticking it on an MS network.
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01:14 tlockley_ bam
01:14 Monkeh masterofmonks: Actually, try implementing ANYTHING to standards and then putting Windows in the mix. :)
01:15 Monkeh Then you'll really wish you hadn't bothered reading.
01:15 wannabe1987 ...
01:15 tlockley_ what are we complaining about now monkeh?
01:15 Monkeh tlockley_: Oh, nothing really.
01:16 wannabe1987 Toastdude: guess what?
01:16 Monkeh tlockley: I can get started on what my fingers look like after I forgot to put gloves on to remove my new wire wheel from its box if you want, though.
01:18 Toastdude What wannabe1987?
01:18 wannabe1987 i got terraria working :D
01:19 Toastdude :D
01:19 Toastdude I need to get it working...
01:20 SarahM ...
01:20 Istas I'm eager for them to release a non-Steam version. (which the response I got from them said they are looking into)
01:23 * lwq1996 pokes wannabe
01:23 wannabe1987 hi
01:45 tlockley joined #thegeekgroup
01:46 wannabe1987 ?
01:49 tlockley whats news wannabe1987
01:50 lwq1996 hey hy something you dont see usually, a asian with braces
01:51 wannabe1987 my computer fails
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01:51 pockitaru hello
01:52 tlockley angy you awake? or what is your timezone so i can time my chats
01:52 wannabe1987 angy is in france
01:52 tlockley where france?
01:52 wannabe1987 paris?
01:52 wannabe1987 i dunno
01:52 wannabe1987 check fb
01:52 Monkeh All France is the same: Full of the French.
01:52 Monkeh ;)
01:53 wannabe1987 so says the brit
01:53 pockitaru hay wannabe1987 im at a friends house introducing new yung minds to the geek group
01:53 Monkeh wannabe1987: National pastime.
01:53 tlockley i dont think i have angys fb
01:53 wannabe1987 lol
01:54 wannabe1987 hes in paris
01:55 pockitaru i showed them the latest tgg vid chris has been working on non stop lol
01:55 tlockley alright, gnight
01:55 wannabe1987 night
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02:01 tonsofpcs hmm
02:01 tehdark45 hmmmmm
02:01 BotSteve tehdark45: I have the following messages for you:
02:01 BotSteve At 22 Feb 16:17Z, wannabe1987 asked me to ask tehdark45 why he gave wannabe a link to a map for gmod.....all that stuff is on sarah!
02:02 wannabe1987 beseides i can't play gmod
02:03 tehdark45 wannabe1987, so that you have the map
02:03 tehdark45 :P
02:03 tehdark45 cuse it was working
02:03 wannabe1987 ...............................................................................................................................
02:03 tehdark45 just not for you for some reason
02:04 wannabe1987 no, my computer won't play gmod
02:04 tehdark45 yeah but you were tlking about getting it, so I got it
02:04 tehdark45 :P
02:05 wannabe1987 but i can't add anything the server doesn't have....i have to match the server in terms of maps
02:05 tehdark45 how can you not add? no HDD space?
02:06 wannabe1987 well, since i'll only be playing on that server, why have other stuff? and why would i play with you anyway?
02:08 wannabe1987 and yes, i have very limited hdd space
02:13 HighMan tehdark45, face
02:13 HighMan tehdark45, is
02:13 HighMan tehdark45, bad
02:15 HighMan Kk
02:17 tehdark45 what HighMan
02:17 HighMan xD
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02:19 wannabe1987 BATS!
02:19 Toastdude Bat-Mobile: !
02:19 Bat-Mobile heya!
02:20 wannabe1987 hows BC?
02:20 tehdark45 Bat-Mobile, you in British Columbia?
02:21 wannabe1987 no
02:21 wannabe1987 bc can mean more than just canada stuff
02:21 tehdark45 yeah ik
02:21 tehdark45 :P
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02:23 Bat-Mobile tehdark45: nope, not even close
02:23 wannabe1987 hi LemLap!
02:23 LemLap lo
02:23 LemLap how goes it?
02:23 wannabe1987 it goes
02:25 LemLap heh
02:25 LemLap I'm in the space playing with unsafe voltages
02:25 LemLap but my MOT started smoking a tiny bit...
02:26 wannabe1987 o.o
02:28 LemLap yeah
02:28 LemLap the fun part is I'm running it DC so it's really quiet, just a gentle hiss
02:28 LemLap but nice big PURPLE plasma arcs
02:29 masterofmonks I wonder how many people get UV burns on their eyes playing with arcs.
02:30 LemLap that's why I wear at least my sunnies, if not welding googles when playing with arcs
02:30 wannabe1987 welding googles?
02:30 wannabe1987 lol
02:30 Toastdude Googles!
02:31 LemLap indeed
02:31 BitViper why would you weld goggles, why would you need goggles so heavy
02:31 LemLap I need to get some more welding glass actually, so I can film the arc's better
02:31 LemLap the other one I'd like to do is film them with a high speed camera
02:35 Seroster LemLap, what is your voltage?
02:36 LemLap 1 MOT into a Bridge rectifier seroster
02:36 Seroster Full wave or half wave?
02:36 LemLap full
02:36 LemLap probably about 3.4KV
02:36 LemLap by my math anyways
02:36 Seroster What is the rating on the MOT?
02:36 LemLap nfi
02:36 Seroster .c 2.2*sqrt2
02:36 BotSteve Sorry, no result.
02:36 Seroster Bastard.
02:37 Seroster .c 2.2*1.414
02:37 BotSteve 3.1108
02:37 Seroster About 3.1kv, by my math ;)
02:37 LemLap depends on the MOT, some are 2.5Kv, and this is a rather large one, so I think it's reasonably high voltage
02:38 Toastdude .c 2.2 * sqrt(2)
02:38 BotSteve 3.11126984
02:38 LemLap .c 2.5 * sqrt(2)
02:38 BotSteve 3.53553391
02:39 Seroster Got any numbers on it?
02:39 Seroster Or a picture? =P
02:39 LemLap ein minuten
02:44 wannabe1987 my computer keeps breaking
02:45 wannabe1987 wtf
02:45 Bat-Mobile I blame niobe's ping timeout.
02:45 LemLap lo bats
02:45 wannabe1987 its happened long before the pingout but ok
02:46 wannabe1987 and its the other computer
02:46 LemLap https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/HighVoltage?authkey=Gv1sRgCPrB2cGQnNzJ1QE#5712156715311342066 <--- that's the transformer
02:46 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming . - High Voltage
02:46 LemLap next pic from that one is the bridge rectifier board under oil
02:48 Seroster o
02:48 Seroster Yeah that's a 2.2kv by the looks of it
02:49 Seroster Cute bridge, waht is the rating on it?
02:49 LemLap afaik, about 50KV
02:49 LemLap it's from an x-ray machine
02:49 LemLap I have 4 of them
02:49 Seroster Fuck mate
02:50 LemLap they were in the oil tank at the bottom of the X-ray PSU
02:50 Seroster If it is 50kv you don't need it under oil at <5kv
02:50 LemLap the oil is more for cooling
02:50 LemLap and it gets WARM
02:50 LemLap passing significantly more current through it than what it was designed for
02:51 HighMan This looks cool
02:51 HighMan xChat isn't that bad
02:52 Seroster Ah
02:54 LemLap also planning on stacking some MOT's at some stage and running that into the rectifier board
02:55 Seroster Right
02:55 Seroster How many?
02:55 LemLap 4 probably
02:55 Seroster =)
02:55 LemLap I'd like to find 4 identical ones, but that's actually kinda difficult >_<
02:56 Seroster Bah
02:56 Seroster My hexamotstack doesn't use same sizes
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03:00 wannabe1987 how is it only 10 at night?!  it seems so late!
03:00 Seroster It's 4am you idiot =P
03:01 masterofmonks How is it already 2200?
03:01 Seroster LemLap, I did some experiments with giving a MOT primary 2200volts, it didn't really work
03:04 HighMan Night all! Thanks masterofmonks!
03:05 LemLap Seroster, 220v is mains voltage here
03:05 Seroster Pussys, I got 253volt mains, live to ground =)
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03:05 LemLap eh, haven't bothered measuring it in a while
03:06 LemLap I think official mains voltage is 230v active - neutral
03:06 Seroster Here too, I think.
03:06 LemLap but it varies around that
03:06 Monkeh Seroster: That's actually rather high :)
03:07 Seroster Yeah, it's +10%
03:07 wannabe1987 hey Bat-Mobile, why are gas prices so freaking high?
03:07 Seroster Wich is just about in the legal range =P
03:07 Seroster wannabe1987, Because Hitler used it all?
03:07 Monkeh Seroster: Check the peak voltage. You don't want that. :)
03:08 LemLap something TGG might wanna look into, which we are trying to do here atm
03:08 LemLap is a Geek vending machine, vending machine with things like arduinos, breadboards and other commonly used components in it
03:09 Bat-Mobile wannabe1987: I don't know, but I bet if we think hard enough we can find a way to blame it on the government of kalamazoo.
03:09 LemLap lol
03:09 Seroster monkeh, if the gigant corporation that I hire from can save two cents by using 10hz instead of 50 they'll do it.
03:12 wannabe1987 sounds great bats!
03:12 LemLap so it occurs to me that my rather eclectic taste in music probably has something to do with my autistic tendencies
03:13 LemLap I dislike repetitive noises intensely, especially loud or high pitched noises.
03:13 LemLap the sort of music I tend to like most
03:13 LemLap break beat stuff, where the tempo changes constantly :-P
03:13 Istas LemLap: Do you like jazz?
03:13 wannabe1987 hmmmm
03:13 LemLap some
03:13 Istas Free-form jazz?
03:13 LemLap some :-P
03:14 LemLap free form jazz sometimes has some rather high pitched noises in it, which tends to set my nerves on edge
03:14 masterofmonks At least it's not Kenny G
03:14 LemLap indeed
03:14 Bat-Mobile that's strange, isn't repetition often favored among those with autism?
03:14 wannabe1987 remind me to not practice around you
03:15 masterofmonks Bat-Mobile, Not exactly.
03:15 LemLap Bat-Mobile, "stimming" is what you are thinking of
03:15 wannabe1987 mhm
03:15 LemLap repetitive movements or noises which are used as a coping mechanism
03:16 masterofmonks But when there are sounds that you *can'* ignore..  *shudders*
03:16 Bat-Mobile Maybe that's it.
03:16 LemLap it's generally because the individual in question isn't coping well, and it allows them to sort of focus on one thing and block everything else out
03:16 masterofmonks *can't*
03:16 LemLap my little brother does it
03:16 LemLap he is somewhat more afflicted than I
03:16 LemLap really doesn't handle stressful situations well
03:16 wannabe1987 .seen BitViper
03:16 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw BitViper 0.76 hours ago at 2012-02-23 02:31:12 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:16:56 UTC
03:17 yNos BitViper: you 'round?
03:17 LemLap which went down like a tonne of bricks recently because he was summonsed to court over having "smoking implements" and refused to go
03:17 LemLap so mum had to front up on his behalf and try and explain to the Judge why he wasn't there
03:18 wannabe1987 i dunno, ynos, i was just making sure so i could send him pm's
03:18 Bat-Mobile How did that go overL
03:18 Bat-Mobile ?
03:19 LemLap ok, he got a $300 fine, but no conviction on his record
03:19 Bat-Mobile That's not bad.  Could've certainly been worse.
03:20 LemLap he's really averse to waiting in queues as well, so am I to a certain extent, I'll avoid it unless I have to
03:20 LemLap he flat out won't
03:21 Seroster LemLap, Whatcha think about white noise?
03:22 LemLap mum had to get a card for him so he doesn't get in shit for not paying train fares constantly
03:22 Bat-Mobile I don't mean to dismiss your feelings or his, but that seems like a very silly thing to worry about.
03:22 LemLap Bat-Mobile, yes, yes it is, but it makes me rather uncomfortable to wait sometimes
03:23 Seroster Bat-Mobile, A lot of what people do is silly.
03:23 Toastdude Night yNos
03:23 LemLap if it's a few people, I'll wait, but if it's like ten or twenty people I'll just come back later
03:23 Seroster Like... Caring how you look, wich is something a lot of silly teenagers devote vast ammounts of time to.
03:23 Bat-Mobile right, but I don't understand that...and I have no basis to even start understanding it.
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03:24 Bat-Mobile Like, jaguars, I can understand being afraid of jaguars.
03:24 Seroster Anyway
03:24 egrsteve morning
03:24 Seroster Cya folks
03:24 Bat-Mobile so long Seroster
03:24 Istas Seeya Seroster
03:24 LemLap Bat-Mobile, Neurotypical people often don't :-P
03:24 Seroster Being afraid of =/= Being uncomfortable around
03:24 Seroster It's a bit like spiders.
03:24 Bat-Mobile I know, I realized it was a bad example
03:24 LemLap there really is a vast gulf between how an autistic brain processes information and how a Neurotypical person does
03:25 LemLap sometimes it's a distinct advantage, other times it's a distinct pain in the ass
03:25 Toastdude Bye Seroster
03:25 Seroster LemLap, You need to remember one sentence for dealing with your autistic tendencies.
03:25 Seroster "Fuck it dude. Let's go bowling."
03:26 wannabe1987 i'm NT myself, but i do attempt to understand other peoples brains....
03:26 Seroster I thought you had ADD
03:27 LemLap yeah Seroster, it doesn't affect me nearly as much as it used to, how much of that is me learning to cope, or just because of maturity is impossible to answer
03:27 LemLap but I look at what I was like 10 - 15 years ago, and I was a mess
03:27 Seroster Or probably both
03:27 egrsteve for people in GR tomarrow is Skywarn weather spotter training
03:27 Seroster How old are you lemlap?
03:27 wannabe1987 i do.  i also have depression.  my brain is broken in different ways
03:27 LemLap 29
03:27 Seroster Right
03:27 Bat-Mobile egrsteve: I wish I had time to go to that
03:27 lwq1996 hmmm, i think i may go dig a tunnle tomorrow
03:28 LemLap .y noisia split the atom
03:28 BotSteve LemLap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy6prF4QQsA
03:28 Seroster I wish I had time to stay and talk about brainfuckery all night, but I really got to leave.
03:28 Seroster Cya
03:28 LemLap ^^^ awesome track, worth listening too
03:28 Bat-Mobile .yt canon rock
03:28 BotSteve Bat-Mobile: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by8oyJztzwo
03:28 Bat-Mobile (yay!)
03:28 LemLap BotSteve: tell seroster pm me when you get home and I'll send you an essay I am writing about being high functioning autistic
03:28 BotSteve LemLap: I'll pass that on when seroster is around.
03:29 wannabe1987 i'd like to read it....
03:29 wannabe1987 lwq1996: where to?
03:29 LemLap don't have it with my unfortunately wannabe1987
03:30 LemLap me*
03:30 lwq1996 idk
03:30 wannabe1987 "making the world evil: 0%"
03:30 lwq1996 make a fort
03:30 wannabe1987 later?
03:30 wannabe1987 lem: where is it?
03:30 wannabe1987 "settling liquids"
03:31 lwq1996 i got woods
03:31 lwq1996 sorry that was to a pm
03:31 LemLap at home wannabe1987
03:31 LemLap I'll google docs it when I get home
03:31 wannabe1987 ok
03:31 wannabe1987 sounds good
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03:34 LemLap I was trying to get my mum and dad to do some testing with a psychologist and see how they score on IQ tests compared to me
03:34 LemLap could be interesting, but dad basically refused >_<
03:35 Bat-Mobile I don't see any way that that could go but bad.
03:36 LemLap oh?
03:38 Bat-Mobile Well, either your parents raised a dumb kid, or you're smarter than them and that makes them feel dumb
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03:40 wannabe1987 niobe!
03:40 Bat-Mobile hooray!
03:40 Bat-Mobile why are we cheering?
03:40 Istas Hooray?
03:40 wannabe1987 because CaptainNiobe is back :D
03:40 wannabe1987 and thats good!
03:41 Bat-Mobile oh ok! hooray!
03:41 * Experimentonomen slowly awakens from his slumber
03:41 wannabe1987 hi Experimentonomen.  how was your slumber?
03:41 * Experimentonomen yawns
03:43 Bat-Mobile made of lumber?
03:44 Istas H'lo Experimentonomen.
03:45 egrsteve *BOLD* *CAPITAL* *LETTERS* *WITH* *EXCLAIMATION* *POINTS* *!!!*
03:46 Experimentonomen yeh yeh we know ur a capitalist, steve :P
03:46 wannabe1987 lol
03:47 astro73|mal i'm really starting to be annoyed with my psych class. It's like they care more about statistics than concepts
03:47 dbshortwave uncle sam says " YOU ARE A BAG OF DOUCHE!"
03:47 wannabe1987 :/
03:47 wannabe1987 concepts such as?
03:48 dbshortwave not really
03:48 Bat-Mobile uncle sam says that?
03:48 Bat-Mobile I like him
03:48 dbshortwave he did
03:48 dbshortwave but you are the bat man
03:48 Bat-Mobile astro73|mal: I also am interested in these concepts
03:49 astro73|mal wannabe1987, Which of the following is NOT true regarding optimists?A. As politicians, they win more elections. B. They have a 75% lower risk of premature death. C. They are less likely to develop learned helplessness. D. As students, they get better grades.
03:49 astro73|mal (real question)
03:50 wannabe1987 i dunno
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03:51 wannabe1987 MY BACK ITCHES
03:51 wannabe1987 wheres my man?!
03:51 astro73|mal It's B. They only have a 50% lower risk.
03:51 Istas I try to practice optimism mixed with realism.
03:52 Bat-Mobile hmmm
03:52 * Bat-Mobile wonders what that has to do with psychology
03:52 wannabe1987 so how is that statistics vs concepts?
03:53 astro73|mal conceptually, they were all right answers
03:53 astro73|mal Bat-Mobile, idk, but Pearson decided it does
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04:07 wannabe1987 MY BACK ITCHES
04:07 wannabe1987 wheres my man?!
04:07 wannabe1987 or woman
04:07 wannabe1987 or animal
04:07 wannabe1987 or something to scratch it for me....its in that one spot you cannot reach
04:08 * Bat-Mobile is pretty sure that he can reach every spot on his back and is not sure which spot you mean
04:08 wannabe1987 between my left shoulder blade and my spine
04:09 egrsteve ok
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04:10 egrsteve just reach back and scratch it then
04:11 * Experimentonomen eats some chocolate
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04:13 wannabe1987 my terraria fails
04:13 wannabe1987 anyway
04:15 Istas Due to always putting my left arm second into my bookbag arm straps throughout my entire scholastic career, I can reach up behind my back with that arm significantly more than with my right.
04:20 * egrsteve thinks sleep sounds like a neat idea
04:21 * Bat-Mobile thinks egrsteve should try it
04:21 Bat-Mobile and report back
04:22 wannabe1987 http://imgur.com/jEIkW
04:22 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
04:22 wannabe1987 i can reach the itchy spot, just not scratch it properly
04:22 egrsteve maybe we should get a commitee on it
04:22 wannabe1987 nah
04:23 wannabe1987 i'll find a door jamb later
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04:48 * BitViper scratches wannabe1987's back an inch to the side of where she indicates
04:48 wannabe1987 thx
04:48 wannabe1987 hi lisa!
04:48 wannabe1987 hi jess, jeff as well
04:49 * BitViper joins egrsteve sleep commitee, heads off to bed
04:49 wannabe1987 night
04:49 wannabe1987 take care
04:49 BitViper 2 hours late on pain meds too =(
04:50 wannabe1987 ow :(
04:50 dainichi DX
04:50 astro73|mal hi wannabe1987
04:50 astro73|mal hi hhrlisa
04:50 wannabe1987 hi astro.  you doing ok?
04:50 hhrlisa Sup!
04:50 ajprog_laptop hi wannabe1987
04:50 astro73|mal and KawaiiJess
04:51 astro73|mal i'm doing fine
04:51 hhrlisa Sorry for the delay. HEY KELLY!!
04:51 wannabe1987 :D
04:51 astro73|mal i'm procrastinating by writing code instead of studying
04:51 astro73|mal but you know
04:51 hhrlisa I'm at work. and dont' want to be.
04:51 astro73|mal lame
04:52 hhrlisa I know
04:52 astro73|mal of course, we only work for the $$
04:59 Experimentonomen g'mornin lisa
04:59 hhrlisa Hiya
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05:03 Experimentonomen g'mornin leepee
05:04 Experimentonomen someone on TS sounds just like ms sam O_o
05:05 lwq1996 god, i hate blue screens
05:05 Istas Use a green one then. <bah-dum PISH>
05:06 * lwq1996 facepalm
05:06 wannabe1987 hi Experimentonomen
05:06 wannabe1987 exp, thats cuz it IS ms sam
05:06 wannabe1987 lol @ Istas
05:07 * Experimentonomen is a noob :P
05:08 lwq1996 at what?
05:08 Experimentonomen everything :P
05:08 lwq1996 you know more than i do
05:09 Experimentonomen i dont think sos
05:09 Istas Noob at breathing... 'How do I keep doing it?"
05:09 Istas Hey everyone, you know how you normally don't have to think about breathing?
05:09 * Experimentonomen yawns
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05:10 wannabe1987 i think i'm too tired.....everythings funny, esp nsfw
05:10 wannabe1987 Experimentonomen: you do know more.  you ARE smart
05:10 Experimentonomen .cookie wannabe1987
05:10 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a frosted sugar cookie!
05:10 Istas Dammit, that backfired.
05:10 wannabe1987 thanks :)
05:10 wannabe1987 .cookie Experimentonomen
05:10 BotSteve Here you go, Experimentonomen, I baked you a pecan cookie!
05:12 wannabe1987 :D
05:12 Experimentonomen wannabe1987 + laughing gas ? :P
05:13 wannabe1987 no.
05:13 wannabe1987 nsfw is hilarious.....
05:13 wannabe1987 i blame packethumper
05:13 Experimentonomen i dont understand a word whats beeing said over at TS
05:13 lwq1996 hes not here anymore :(
05:13 wannabe1987 why not?
05:13 lwq1996 well in regular channel
05:13 wannabe1987 yes he is....lee....he's in nsfw
05:31 * Experimentonomen wonders what wannabe1987's and Cprossu's rooms look like
05:31 wannabe1987 Experimentonomen: i've already shown you mine
05:31 wannabe1987 Cprossu's is a mess, no room to walk
05:32 Experimentonomen how do u know ?
05:32 wannabe1987 seen photos....
05:32 wannabe1987 and he says it is....
05:32 Experimentonomen oki
05:33 Experimentonomen i dont think hes as messy as me though :P
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05:35 wannabe1987 why?  lets see your room!
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05:42 Experimentonomen wannabe1987: http://imgur.com/a/MsLmV <-- and thats on a good day like newly cleaned up
05:42 BotSteve Title: random - Imgur
05:42 wannabe1987 i have seen these photos
05:43 wannabe1987 Cprossu's you can't see the floor
05:43 Experimentonomen proof!! :P
05:44 wannabe1987 ask him!
05:44 lwq1996 hahaha http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/408034_10151321154370483_617675482_22748309_1201298937_n.jpg
05:47 * Experimentonomen looks @ Cprossu
05:53 Experimentonomen Cprossu, show us some pics of ur crib! :P
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06:01 Toastdude FTW lwq1996
06:04 astro73|mal lwq1996, i think the sand is closest to what we had in college
06:04 astro73|mal WORST. DRILL. EVAR.
06:11 Istas Hm. Speaking of 'cribs', I'd like to share a picture I took of the outside of our house, last winter.
06:11 Istas Those who are made ill by the sight of snow might not want to look.
06:13 Istas http://oi43.tinypic.com/1zn747r.jpg
06:14 Experimentonomen http://s798.photobucket.com/albums/yy267/TheElectroNoob/lagenheten/?action=view&amp;current=002.jpg <- my surroundings
06:14 BotSteve Title: lagenheten :: 002.jpg picture by TheElectroNoob - Photobucket
06:15 Istas Interesting landscape.
06:15 wannabe1987 nice!
06:16 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zg3vcus8eA
06:16 BotSteve Title: Nice weather eh ? - YouTube
06:17 Istas That's somewhat rainy.
06:18 Istas What area of the world do you live in, Experimentonomen, and was that video taken in the same place?
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06:19 Experimentonomen Istas, that vid was shot at in my home where i live
06:19 wannabe1987 hi Brycie, Electricguy
06:20 Electricguy hi hi! :)
06:20 Istas H'lo Electricguy, Brycie. Experimentonomen: nifty
06:21 Istas I remember heavy rains. We don't get that where I live now, in Montana.
06:21 Experimentonomen i live in sucky sweden
06:22 Istas All of it sucks? Or just the part you live in?
06:22 Electricguy the part where i live doesn't suck at all
06:22 Experimentonomen the part where i live is a steaming pile of shit :/
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06:22 * Istas is waiting for you two to say you live in the same city.
06:23 wannabe1987 lol
06:23 Experimentonomen Electricguy lives in kalmar, i live in harnosand
06:23 wannabe1987 they could be neighboring cities for all we know.
06:23 Experimentonomen nope
06:24 Istas Hm. Looking only at a map, I'd say I'd prefer Harnosand, due only to location.
06:24 Experimentonomen for either of us, the other is atleast 5 hours with a boeing 747 away from each other
06:24 Istas 829km by map according to google, wannabe.
06:24 wannabe1987 ahhhh ok
06:24 wannabe1987 .c 829km to miles
06:24 BotSteve 515.116718 miles
06:25 Istas Kalmar near the southern tip, Harnosand approximately halfway up the country.
06:26 * Experimentonomen thinks abt taking a trip to his old adress later today to cut out a new rear panel for the tape deck chassi amp
06:27 Electricguy i live here 56.673834,16.252103
06:27 Istas I haven't gotten video of rain close to as heavy as I've seen. I have gotten video of steam coming off our lake during a cold snap. And video of me riding across said lake on my bicycle after it froze over. Neither of which I imagine is all that amazing to someone from Sweden.
06:28 Experimentonomen http://maps.google.se/maps?q=Hellz%C3%A9ngatan+29,+871+61+H%C3%A4rn%C3%B6sand,+V%C3%A4sternorrlands+l%C3%A4n&amp;layer=c&amp;z=17&amp;iwloc=A&amp;sll=62.624208,17.955348&amp;cbp=13,150.0,0,0,0&amp;cbll=62.624385,17.955125&amp;hl=sv&amp;ved=0CAoQ2wU&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=XtxFT6LGMsjh4QShjan2CA <-- my old adress
06:28 BotSteve Title: Hellzéngatan 29, 871 61 Härnösand, Västernorrlands län - Google Maps
06:30 Istas Interesting. I like the snow at least, hehe
06:31 Experimentonomen i hate snow
06:31 wannabe1987 agreed!
06:31 Istas Send your snow my way.
06:31 Istas Will it west to Montana.
06:31 Experimentonomen i had to shovel that fucking driveway every winter, took up to 2-3 hours at times
06:31 Electricguy Where Hannah lives, huh? ;P
06:31 Istas I have an excuse to want snow, it helps delay and lessen the wildfire season.
06:32 Istas Electricguy: Oy, that was bad :)
06:32 Electricguy xD
06:32 Electricguy just had to :P
06:32 wannabe1987 lol
06:32 Istas I've never seen any of that, and am quite happy this way.
06:33 wannabe1987 i would love to send it your way!
06:33 wannabe1987 but the farmers want it :/
06:33 Istas There is a "Testicle Festival" near here. Male cattle getting their balls snipped off at a certain time of year, and they fry them up and base a festival around it. As much an excuse to drink beer as anything I'm sure.
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06:34 wannabe1987 ....
06:34 wannabe1987 hi benty
06:34 Benty hi
06:34 Istas "Rocky Mountain Oysters", another name for them.
06:34 Istas Hello Benty.
06:34 Benty O(∩_∩)O
06:36 Electricguy ok, gotta go! :)
06:36 Electricguy see you all later!
06:36 Istas Later Electricguy
06:36 Istas Good seeing you.
06:36 Electricguy :)
06:36 Benty bye~
06:40 wannabe1987 awww bye ignition hamster :P
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06:52 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog - 2-22-12 Iowa represents![23.87 min] http://youtu.be/IHM3fUjIts8
06:55 wannabe1987 .cookie Druidic_Rifleman
06:55 BotSteve Here you go, Druidic_Rifleman, I baked you a shortbread cookie!
06:55 wannabe1987 nice photo, druid
06:55 wannabe1987 iowa?
06:55 Druidic_Rifleman cool
06:55 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm
06:55 Druidic_Rifleman what the cloud i did not take it
06:56 wannabe1987 i know, but its still cool nonetheless
06:59 astro73|mal great, i really fucked up my apt
07:00 astro73|mal all the solutions i'm getting for stuff says to get rid of xorg
07:05 wannabe1987 ???
07:05 wannabe1987 apt?
07:05 astro73|mal linux
07:06 wannabe1987 o
07:06 wannabe1987 i'm no help there
07:06 wannabe1987 cpro already has to hack together a driver for my dell...
07:08 Istas Talk with y'all later.
07:08 Istas I'm off to sleep.
07:08 wannabe1987 nigh Istas
07:08 wannabe1987 take care
07:09 Istas You too wannabe.
07:09 Istas I'm pronouncing that "wah-NAH-bae" in my head.
07:09 wannabe1987 why?
07:10 Istas Because it sounds more interesting than the only other alternative that has popped to mind.
07:10 Istas It just sounds cool.
07:10 wannabe1987 good reason!
07:10 wannabe1987 i approve!
07:10 wannabe1987 now get thee to bed
07:12 wannabe1987 really adobe?  realllY?!
07:12 wannabe1987 fine i guess i really didn't wanna watch the cb tonight anyway....
07:12 Druidic_Rifleman hmmmm
07:13 Druidic_Rifleman it's CB time
07:16 ajprog_laptop astro73|mal: what did you do?
07:21 * wannabe1987 is being attacked, time to hide from the lab
07:21 wannabe1987 the geek group*
07:30 Druidic_Rifleman hmmmmm
07:30 wannabe1987 stop thinking....it'll hurt!
07:33 Experimentonomen *yawn*
07:33 wannabe1987 morning
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07:35 Experimentonomen muh
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07:37 wannabe1987 stop with the cymbals!!!!!!!!!!!!!
07:38 Experimentonomen ???
07:39 wannabe1987 cb
07:39 wannabe1987 i have it via headphones
07:39 wannabe1987 and he crashed cymbals
07:40 Druidic_Rifleman SOOOO
07:40 wannabe1987 someones sig on a forum i frequent: "han shot first" LOL
07:40 wannabe1987 so?
07:40 tehdark45 SOOOOOOOOOOOO
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07:41 wannabe1987 SOOOOx1^10,000,000,000,000
07:42 tehdark45 LOL
07:42 tehdark45 that is 10
07:42 tehdark45 1*
07:45 astro73|alice_ WANT!! http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&amp;Store_Code=TO&amp;Product_Code=QC-DnD-PRINT&amp;Category_Code=QC
07:45 BotSteve Title: TopatoCo: QC Dungeons & Dragons Print
07:47 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm
07:47 Druidic_Rifleman you know
07:48 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder if we could program project viciy to move D&D minis
07:51 wannabe1987 night everyone
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08:12 LemPhone bleh, sore feet :-(
08:12 LemPhone standing up for a large proportion of the last 8 hours.
08:13 LemPhone having two thoroughly destroyed heels doesn't help
08:15 * Experimentonomen is traveling really long distances in one of his creative worlds, almost 5k blocks so far
08:15 Experimentonomen 50k blocks*
08:15 LemPhone lol
08:16 LemPhone so... I got an NST today, and I have bridge rectfiers that cand handle 12kv :-d
08:16 LemPhone :-D even
08:17 Experimentonomen oh dear D:
08:17 LemPhone mmmm, 17KVDC
08:18 Experimentonomen oh dear D:
08:18 LemPhone what....? :-P
08:18 Experimentonomen i dont like high voltage
08:18 Experimentonomen its dangerous
08:18 Experimentonomen not worth the risk
08:18 LemPhone it's FUN!
08:19 Experimentonomen not for me
08:19 Experimentonomen lem, lets see wut ur room looks like :P
08:19 LemPhone eh, turning aluminium cans into plasma hole riddled skeletons is amusing
08:20 LemPhone this is at the hackerspace exp
08:20 Experimentonomen hm
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09:08 Sgt_Lemming bleh, sore lemming
09:09 Sgt_Lemming considering some chemical relief
09:14 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell yNos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-yj1M6Bly0 <--- pretty decent drum/bass video
09:14 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
09:14 BotSteve Title: Noisia - Split the atom HD - YouTube
10:02 einball good morning
10:02 * einball yawns
10:07 Hackbat http://www.geekosystem.com/amphibian-worms/
10:07 BotSteve Title: New Family of Creepy Amphibious Worms Discovered in India | Geekosystem
10:11 Experimentonomen guten morgen herr einball
10:13 einball :)
10:14 Experimentonomen i've been up since 4 in the morning though :P
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10:15 einball 0530
10:15 einball its 1115 now
10:17 dr_jkl okay
10:17 BotSteve dr_jkl: I have the following messages for you:
10:17 BotSteve At 22 Feb 05:43Z, lwq1996 asked me to tell dr_jkl that i got an idea: put a geek group logo next to where the name apears in a tab on a browser, like for facebook there is a thumbnail of an F
10:18 BotSteve At 22 Feb 05:44Z, BatSteve asked me to tell dr_jkl so...a favicon then?
10:18 dr_jkl lol
10:19 Druidic_Rifleman hey doc
10:19 Druidic_Rifleman Check the pms jkl
10:19 Druidic_Rifleman also WHO is going to the lab
10:20 dr_jkl the World Health Organization?
10:20 dr_jkl Wuh-oh. They find asbestos?
10:21 Druidic_Rifleman BotSteve: tell egrsteve how is the blast containment vessel
10:21 BotSteve Druidic_Rifleman: I'll pass that on when egrsteve is around.
10:21 dr_jkl oh man
10:21 dr_jkl the rev3 arduino uno is FUCKING SEXY
10:22 Druidic_Rifleman holding up with un sanded fireings
10:22 Druidic_Rifleman Geekovert :P
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10:24 Eldaine knock knock... :]
10:25 einball Who's there?
10:27 Eldaine Dude with a plan
10:27 einball Dude who?
10:27 Eldaine I'm in cali thinking about my next move
10:28 Eldaine so nixes the plan thing, lol
10:28 Eldaine < is my name
10:28 einball :)
10:29 Eldaine so the geek group is closed?
10:29 Eldaine it's late
10:29 einball Reminds me of a classmate :)
10:29 einball I don't know, sorry. Iam from overseas
10:30 Eldaine oh sweet, what are you up to?
10:31 einball Well ... Tidying up my room
10:31 einball and ... stuff ... ^^
10:31 einball worthless enough not to mention it. My life sucks:P
10:31 Eldaine so where overseas?
10:31 einball germany :)
10:32 Eldaine germans r awesome. so are you a potential geek?
10:35 einball Err ... Nope
10:35 einball I do some funny stuff, but iam not a geek/nerd.
10:35 einball at least I try not to be
10:35 * Experimentonomen watches recordings of his old live streams
10:36 HighMan|zZz morning
10:36 einball hi HighMan
10:36 dr_jkl einball: wie gehts es dir?
10:37 Eldaine ok gatta crash, peace off :]
10:38 pegasus http://i.imgur.com/xSRLn.png
10:39 einball dr_jkl: Mir gehts gut
10:39 dr_jkl \o/
10:44 * Experimentonomen wonders wutz einball is up to
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11:02 RageRiot MORNING CAMPERs
11:02 Experimentonomen g'day rage
11:02 RageRiot :)
11:02 HighMan Morning RageRiot
11:03 RageRiot just unboxed a new server for this school.
11:03 Experimentonomen http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11447897
11:03 BotSteve Title: 2.1 channel audio system, Beeing assambled. Experimentonomen on USTREAM. Other Technology
11:03 HighMan Nice, You are IT Tech RageRiot?
11:03 RageRiot I've got a lengthy task of migrating everything now
11:03 RageRiot ye
11:04 HighMan Just a question.
11:04 HighMan 1. Do you lock the bioses up?
11:04 HighMan 2. Can you access the C drive by opening the props of a shortcut then going to the target
11:04 RageRiot but because I'm convinced the old server had been badly setup I'm going to attempt a domain rebuild
11:04 RageRiot the c is accessable .
11:05 RageRiot but not writeable
11:05 HighMan How about the bios?
11:05 RageRiot to kids or staff
11:05 * HighMan Boot in to KonBoot, then goes to admin ;)
11:05 RageRiot the bios is pw'd on the IT suite but the other workstation around the school are not
11:05 HighMan Ah ok
11:05 RageRiot since it's a primary school it isnt a big worry.
11:06 RageRiot the kids tend not to prod too much.
11:07 RageRiot but I've a school full of workstations that are about 6 years old
11:08 RageRiot they have been clean down a few time tho over that time at least by my self once.
11:09 RageRiot but the domain, file shares, group policies are a mess
11:09 RageRiot so I intend to create a new domain and have the workstations join it.
11:09 RageRiot it's going to be tricky timing everything tho.
11:10 RageRiot not sure if I should opt for a Different subnet or should I say network ID
11:11 einball Experimentonomen: Iam up to nothing, why?
11:11 RageRiot currently using 192.168.1.x
11:13 Experimentonomen einball, oki
11:14 Druidic_Rifleman eldaine huh?
11:26 HighMan Spongebob!
11:26 HighMan HighMan!
11:26 RageRiot rectangle pants
11:27 HighMan I thought we were naming names
11:27 RageRiot just for fun
11:28 HighMan lol
11:33 HighMan So... How bout them apples?
11:34 RageRiot I dont have your apples
11:34 RageRiot I stole no ones apples
11:38 HighMan Who be setting them riots.
11:38 HighMan Idk chat's dead 2me
11:38 RageRiot :O
11:38 HighMan lol
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11:38 RageRiot I'm just looking at one of our linksys switch settings atm
11:39 RageRiot they contain so much crap to set
11:40 BitViper I HATE SWAMP FARTS !!!!
11:41 * BitViper holds one of his old socks over his nose for fresh air and wishes cory were here
11:41 HighMan lol
11:41 RageRiot eww
11:42 RageRiot I feel like puking in my mug now
11:42 BitViper friggin swamp next to the apartment let loose again, smells like skunmk civil war
11:42 HighMan Test
11:42 RageRiot it worked highman
11:42 HighMan RageRiot...
11:43 BitViper gah, i cant sleep with that smell, if you can even call it that
11:43 RageRiot ye
11:44 HighMan Teacher says, "Ese mobil es de mierda"
11:44 HighMan This phone is of shit.
11:44 HighMan Teacher says, "Crap I thought you a cuss word"
11:44 HighMan *taught
11:44 RageRiot heh
11:45 RageRiot amazing how your first attempt looks nothing like what you tried to write
11:46 HighMan ...
11:46 RageRiot or shoutl shut up
11:46 RageRiot I didnt read the next line
11:46 RageRiot properlu
11:46 RageRiot haha
11:46 RageRiot sorrry I was not reading it properly
11:46 HighMan lol
11:47 einball Experimentonomen: I suck, that's all
11:47 RageRiot lol
11:47 HighMan einball, what.
11:48 einball My whole life sucks -> I suck -> badass
11:48 HighMan Must stink. (Pun intended)
11:49 einball ._.
11:49 HighMan Get it
11:49 RageRiot hahahahhhahha *acctually falls into his palm*
11:50 JA12 Swallow The Sun - Labyrinth of London (Horror Pt. IV)
11:50 einball JA12: Don't fall asleep! *looks like a mad boy*
11:51 HighMan RageRiot, xD
11:51 einball I don't get it ... Nevermind.
11:52 HighMan You get it now?
11:52 einball No way.
11:52 HighMan ...
11:52 HighMan Herpes
11:52 HighMan Gonnaoreah
11:52 HighMan Stephylcocous
11:52 einball -.-
11:52 einball Not funny at all
11:52 einball (imho)
11:52 Hackbat Algebra
11:53 HighMan Geometry
11:53 einball Algebra is cool o.o
11:53 HighMan Pre-Calc
11:53 HighMan Calculus!
11:53 HighMan einball, Yes, better than gemoetry.
11:53 HighMan *geometry
11:53 Hackbat Anal fissures
11:53 HighMan Anal Fixation
11:53 HighMan Hemmoroids
11:53 einball My whole life spins around math and such things associated with it :D
11:54 HighMan -(b/21)
11:54 Hackbat wonder why they didn't want a live irc feed in the lab
11:54 HighMan (b+-sqrt((-b^2-(4ac)))/2a
11:54 einball There's a reason why chris never comes here ...
11:55 Hackbat taint rivet?
11:55 HighMan I can't seem to figure out why?
11:55 * HighMan Waves troll stick around wondering.
11:55 HighMan Nope, idk why.
11:55 einball T_T
11:55 HighMan Lol
11:56 einball you make me insane
11:56 Hackbat the sign in the lounge should sing the MLP: fim theme
11:56 einball (not that I wasn't insane before)
11:56 einball that makes no sense
11:56 einball I need to get alcohol ... many bottles
11:57 einball :3
12:01 HighMan Did you know that if your poured it on carpet and lit it, it wouldn't catch?
12:01 einball Need ... to ti ... tidy up ... my .. rooooom
12:01 HighMan I'm no electronics geek, so I don't need to.
12:01 einball not o_O
12:02 einball It's all about the fumes ... :-)
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12:02 Experimentonomen yikes those boards were worse than i thought they were *decides to not use them*
12:02 HighMan Hi Hackbat
12:02 Talos452 gah
12:02 Talos452 being sick sucks!
12:03 * HighMan Someone give me a pun on Grand Rapids
12:03 HighMan Nvm.... I got one.
12:03 einball (^_^)
12:04 * HighMan Florida is a great place! But atleast we floridians can swim! (Chris can't swim)
12:04 Talos452 I dont know if that is supposed to be a smile or really perky breasts with cleavage
12:04 HighMan ...
12:05 Talos452 just sayin
12:05 HighMan (^_^)-# WTF waffle!
12:06 einball [o_O]
12:06 Talos452 ahhh, i know my mistake...  I mistook it for ( . )_( .)
12:06 Talos452 the glasses are now on
12:06 HighMan Talos452, WOW.
12:06 einball XD
12:06 * HighMan I gots to inspect the server's RACK.
12:06 HighMan Come here Talos452 ;)
12:06 Talos452 hahaha
12:06 * HighMan Hopes you are female.
12:06 Talos452 ....
12:06 Talos452 not female
12:06 Talos452 hahah
12:06 * HighMan Pulls out stun gun.
12:07 HighMan Stay the fuck away XD
12:07 Talos452 dont worry, im straight as an arrow
12:07 HighMan lol
12:07 BitViper Talos452 is back, (_!_) and front ( o )( o ) ... SMILE  ¶:)
12:07 HighMan I might be straight but you might be a bit curvy.
12:07 Talos452 :P
12:07 einball like .. big? :D
12:07 Talos452 hahaah  hey Bit
12:07 HighMan B===D
12:08 HighMan I'm laughing
12:08 RageRiot is there a reason storm control should be disable ?
12:08 einball (I was sure that this comes up in here :D
12:08 einball )
12:08 HighMan Lol
12:08 Talos452 I wanna get a tattoo on my ass:    (FIRE)(EXIT)
12:09 RageRiot haha
12:09 einball SYNTHESIZERS!!!
12:10 HighMan Stoichimotery
12:10 einball Beating the shit out of you since 1950
12:10 HighMan xD
12:10 HighMan Gots to go 2 school all!
12:10 HighMan Cya RageRiot einball  Talos452 BitViper
12:10 einball Moar LSD for school!
12:11 HighMan|School einball, I don't want to halleucinate
12:11 RageRiot c ya
12:11 einball HighMan: Was a pleasure to .. *whatever you want to paste here*
12:11 einball HighMan|School: ^^
12:11 HighMan|School :P
12:11 RageRiot anyone with netoworking experties ?
12:11 einball sure.
12:11 einball Closed loop systems
12:11 BitViper yeah, but neurons arent firing yet this morning
12:12 einball and 127.0.0.1 is also my expertise
12:12 RageRiot heh
12:12 BitViper all killed off by that friggin order
12:12 BitViper *odor
12:12 RageRiot yeh the order of the worldis  certainly killing brain cells
12:13 Talos452 l8r
12:13 RageRiot I'm just looking at our network switches, I'm wonder if I should enable storm control
12:14 BitViper if thats what i think it is, then absolutly
12:14 BitViper but im not sure what it is
12:14 BitViper but sounds like it would be DOS defenses
12:14 RageRiot Storm Control enables limiting the amount of Multicast and Broadcast frames accepted and forwarded by the device. When Layer 2 frames are forwarded, Broadcast and Multicast frames are flooded to all ports on the relevant VLAN. This occupies bandwidth, and loads all nodes connected on all ports.
12:15 BitViper ah
12:15 BitViper yeah i would enable that too i think
12:16 RageRiot right now the network appears to be thrashed with broadcasts since activity LED's are in a syncronous blink.
12:16 RageRiot this has been like this for a long time..
12:16 RageRiot but I'm not a network expert so dont know where it is coming from.
12:17 RageRiot I have to enable this storm control per port
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12:40 * einball loses control :)
12:40 BotSteve einball: I have the following messages for you:
12:40 BotSteve At 12:13Z, roadran422 asked me to tell einball I'm a ghost haunting him and rap.
12:41 einball o_O
12:41 Experimentonomen O_O
12:41 einball tell roadran422 WTH are you talking about!?
12:41 einball BotSteve: tell roadran422 WTH are you talking about!?
12:41 BotSteve einball: I'll pass that on when roadran422 is around.
12:42 einball weirdo
12:42 Experimentonomen einball, i put that annoying roadran kid on ignore
12:42 RageRiot lol
12:45 einball i like him in a weird way ^^
12:45 einball he lightens up my life
12:45 einball and i can troll him easily
12:45 Experimentonomen i hate him
12:45 Experimentonomen i cant stand him
12:46 Experimentonomen thats why i put him on ignore
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12:59 RageRiot he's only an ickle boy
13:09 yNos you dont like boys?
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13:19 Experimentonomen g'day yNos
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13:26 Experimentonomen *yawn*
13:26 slewfoot no yawning allowed - it's a new day.
13:29 Seroster börk?
13:29 BotSteve seroster: I have the following messages for you:
13:29 BotSteve At 03:28Z, LemLap asked me to tell seroster pm me when you get home and I'll send you an essay I am writing about being high functioning autistic
13:30 Seroster BotSteve, tell lemlap Sounds like a plan. Throw me a pm when YOU get home ;P
13:30 BotSteve Seroster: I'll pass that on when LemLap is around.
13:31 yNos hiya all
13:31 Seroster yo yNos
13:31 yNos i wonder if these are available in the US.. http://www.secmavehicule.com/secma-f16.php
13:31 BotSteve Title: SECMA automobile
13:33 Seroster I just called the local electronics store and bitched about they printing "RAM MEMORY" in their ad
13:34 yNos because the idiot that you talked to designed the ad?
13:34 Seroster Sadly no =P
13:35 yNos when i waited tables, i alway wanted to punch the guy who yelled at me because his food was too spicy.. our food had a spice rating from 1-10.. if you ordered something too spicy, it is your own damn fault.
13:36 yNos i will take it back and ask them to make it again, less spicy.. but dont bitch to me
13:36 yNos /rant
13:36 yNos which is to say.. Seroster: FYYFF
13:36 yNos :P
13:37 slewfoot Hey yNos
13:37 yNos Were you able to get into your device?
13:38 slewfoot I tried the sign as soon as i got home and it worked...
13:38 yNos cool
13:38 slewfoot however - after a couple minutes, it stopped respnding altogether
13:38 slewfoot I suspect it's the comm cable that Bill made.
13:38 slewfoot I had similar problems in the lab - when I wiggled the cable, it worked again.
13:39 slewfoot I need someone to make a new cable I think
13:40 yNos just need to re-punch it?
13:40 yNos or was the jacket not in the connector?
13:41 slewfoot jacket is not in the connector
13:42 yNos the jacket is strain relief
13:42 slewfoot I know - Bill made the cable
13:43 yNos rj11 or rj45?
13:43 slewfoot yes
13:43 slewfoot rj12 on one end, rj45 on the other
13:43 yNos ah
13:44 slewfoot we have the connectors at the lab
13:45 slewfoot just need someone to do it.
13:45 yNos I cant get down there for a bit..
13:46 yNos punching a cable is pretty traight forward..
13:46 Seroster Cooool
13:46 Seroster My gf was shaving her legs
13:46 Seroster She kinda did a skin graft with the razor
13:47 Seroster Bathroom looks like a fucking murder scene =D
13:47 Experimentonomen yuck
13:48 Experimentonomen *yawn* muh im bored but dont feel like doing anything :/
13:51 yNos Seroster has a girlfriend?
13:51 angy his hands?
13:52 Experimentonomen http://www.bourns.com/pdfs/tip35.pdf <-- this is one laughable SOA, one single A at 50V, none of my other power transistors have a that low SOA
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14:12 Experimentonomen .cookis hhrlisa
14:12 Experimentonomen g'day lisa
14:12 Experimentonomen .cookie hhrlisa
14:12 BotSteve Here you go, hhrlisa, I baked you a kleicha cookie!
14:12 hhrlisa yummy
14:15 Experimentonomen im putting together five pairs of TIP35C and TIP36C transistors to make a piece of crap amplifier i dont give a shit if i blow up :P
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14:27 yNos wtb:74volt(or more), 5+hp hub motor
14:34 tonsofpcs you're a 5hp hub motor.
14:34 tonsofpcs oh, sorry, good morning :)
14:35 tonsofpcs RJ12? isn't that 6p6c, R3,R2,T1,R1,T2,T3?
14:36 Monkeh slewfoot: Make it yourself!
14:37 slewfoot yep - I could, but I'm not in the lab for a few days
14:37 Monkeh tonsofpcs: It won't actually be RJ12 :)
14:37 slewfoot it is rj12
14:37 tonsofpcs no, wait, that's RJ25....
14:37 tonsofpcs RJ12 is 6p6c but a different pin arrangement
14:37 Monkeh slewfoot: RJ12 is a specific termination for phone systems.
14:37 Monkeh slewfoot: It's a 6P6C, what the wires are is probably device specific :P
14:38 tonsofpcs I need to get one of those old bell books that describes the RJs in excruciating detail
14:38 slewfoot RJ-11 is 4 pins - RJ-12 is 6
14:38 Monkeh tonsofpcs: And then use one to beat an 'RJ45' fan to death?
14:38 tonsofpcs RJ12 could be the same exact wiring as RJ25 for all I know but be for a different device in the 'chain'
14:38 Monkeh slewfoot: RJs are not the connectors.
14:38 * tonsofpcs uses TIA568B
14:39 Monkeh slewfoot: They specify connector, keying, and pinout for specific applications.
14:39 Monkeh slewfoot: The connector is a 6P6C
14:39 tonsofpcs or maybe 12 is unkeyed and 25 is keyed?
14:39 Monkeh RJ45 is a specially keyed 8P2C, not the 8P8C used for ethernet.
14:41 tonsofpcs i thought it was 8p8c keyed...
14:41 Monkeh slewfoot: And RJ11 can be both 6P2C and 6P4C (depends if power is needed)
14:41 tonsofpcs (again, I need one of those books of RJ)
14:41 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Well, I think there's some confusion on that. It only connectors two conductors, but there's also a programming resistor inside it on two more pins.
14:42 tonsofpcs Monkeh: this is why I need that book :)
14:42 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I think they actually used a keyed 8P8C and just didn't connect all the pins.
14:42 tonsofpcs I wonder if any of my oddball engineering books here have that...
14:42 Monkeh tonsofpcs: I've never actually seen an RJ45.
14:42 tonsofpcs I have seen an unterminated RJ45 connector
14:42 tonsofpcs (at least, I think that's what it was)
14:43 angy RJ45 is weird, the original norm is 8p2c but the newer one is a 8p8c based
14:43 tonsofpcs I have RJ21Xs and other things riding on amphenols all over the place here
14:44 tonsofpcs note:  Amphenol's cable division used to be across town.  Further note:  No one here ever thought to buy directly from them.
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14:45 angy if you have an ISDN phone, they are connected most of the time with an RJ45 connector
14:46 tonsofpcs ah, yes, I forgot about that.  My mother had two B channels connected with those at one time
14:47 angy so you saw RJ45 connectors :)
14:47 tonsofpcs our ISDN here is not connected with such.  I forget what it has.
14:48 slewfoot actually - RJ-11 is 2 wire, RJ-14 is 4 wire and RJ-25 is 6 wire
14:48 angy ISO8877 was normalized for US ISDN so I think your ISDN should used RJ45
14:49 tonsofpcs angy: the ISDN we have here is demarced as either data or dual-mode.
14:50 tonsofpcs it hops from 66 block to 66 block on RJ21X, then goes from 66 block directly to the 'modem' card, iirc.
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14:50 tonsofpcs I'd have to walk over there to look and I'm fighting a PBX right now
14:50 angy hello lovely islander
14:50 tonsofpcs how's the rock?
14:51 tonsofpcs I never understood why RJ21X didn't swap ring/tip
14:52 angy my ISDN phone on my desk is connected using a RJ45 :)
14:53 tonsofpcs brb
14:54 tonsofpcs looks like that ISDN is connnected with either a 6p4c or 4p4c
14:59 Monkeh slewfoot: RJ11 can have power.
14:59 Monkeh angy: B-b-b-but that's ethernet! :D
15:00 yNos lol, a connector does not ethernet make.
15:00 angy I can pass whatever I want on a connector
15:00 Monkeh yNos: I know.
15:00 yNos ;)
15:01 tonsofpcs yNos: also, ethernet doesn't run on RJ45s
15:01 Monkeh yNos: Have a word with several of my switches and my Itanic, they all use 8P8Cs as console ports :)
15:01 * tonsofpcs hands Monkeh a rollover cable
15:01 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Got one
15:01 Monkeh tonsofpcs: My switch actually came with one.
15:01 tonsofpcs right, but I have no need for it.
15:02 Monkeh tonsofpcs: Not sure it's the same pinout as my Itanic.
15:02 Monkeh I should check that but Dhell make it annoyingly hard to get a manual, so..
15:02 tonsofpcs rollover is just 1-8 swapped 8-1...
15:02 tonsofpcs (everything flipped)
15:03 Monkeh Oohh, Tyketto are back
15:06 tlockley hey guys, in class learning about recursion and stuff
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15:11 tonsofpcs hey tlockley hey tlockley hey tlockley hey tlockley
15:14 tlockley hey
15:15 tlockley 'tis for horses
15:15 tlockley well its spelled hay but whose checking
15:16 angy you want horse food as well? it's a trendy thing?
15:16 tlockley not really
15:16 tlockley i would love some real pizza
15:16 angy I had that for lunch
15:17 electricguy_ ok, gonna build a sonic death ray for dogs and other stuff :P www.ustream.tv/channel/electricguy
15:17 tlockley tonsofpcs: whats up?
15:18 tonsofpcs I was recursing
15:18 tonsofpcs now I'll curse again ;)
15:18 tlockley lol
15:19 tlockley cant wait for class to be over so i can try and fix my raid
15:19 angy raid is dead!
15:19 tlockley well sorta
15:19 tlockley one of psus' is reporting dead and now all but 4 drives are recognised by the array
15:20 angy that's annoying
15:20 astro73|alice ok
15:20 tlockley yah, it was working great not even 12hrs ago
15:20 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/ZhPO7
15:20 BotSteve Title: POSamp - Imgur
15:23 Experimentonomen Electricguy, building a ultrasonic dog repeller eh ?
15:35 Hackbat Guys can I get some help with something? My sister got a call about her husbands nephew being charged with a crime.
15:35 Hackbat it sounded like he said Sex prologence
15:35 Hackbat but I dodn't think that's right
15:36 Experimentonomen uhm
15:37 Hackbat he didn't speak so well
15:38 Experimentonomen maybe he was drunk
15:38 tlockley Hackbat: has he been arranged yet?
15:38 Hackbat no they're looking for him
15:39 tlockley Step 1: GET A LAWYER if you can
15:39 tlockley seriously
15:39 tonsofpcs Step 2:  Ask the lawyer, not us.
15:39 tlockley bbl, class ended
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15:54 rockape Hello
15:55 Hackbat :\
15:55 Hackbat we just realised
15:55 Hackbat The guy just talks like he has a cock in his mouth
15:55 Hackbat He was saying Check Fraudulence
15:56 yNos bah.. homeopathy is a joke..
15:56 rockape ummmm eh?
15:56 einball yup
15:57 einball lol Hackbat XD
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15:58 angy welcome back lovely islander
15:58 einball Thank you angy :P
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15:59 tonsofpcs yNos: chiropractic?
16:00 yNos nah, was talking about natural medicine with a friend on fb..
16:00 angy how's the lovely island today?
16:00 yNos homeopathy is not natural medicine
16:00 yNos it is a placebo..
16:01 tlockley im good angy, figured out i had a bum IEC on my 2nd PSU
16:01 yNos natural medicine is something like.. drinking willow bark tea instead of taking asprin...
16:01 Experimentonomen Hackbat, and how do u know how it sounds like when someone talks with a cock in his/her mouth ? :P
16:01 tlockley but im still unsure why all my drives are being bitches
16:01 angy I would suggest to punch them, but not really for drives
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16:04 tonsofpcs who here knows how to make a nitsuko PBX behave?
16:04 tonsofpcs *glances towards yNos*
16:06 tlockley pwhew, got all my drives back
16:07 * tlockley got 99 problems but a drive 'aint one
16:08 angy I don't look diagnostics anymore :)
16:10 tlockley the raid does not have very good digas
16:10 angy I'm too used to megaraid for raid
16:10 angy I don't know how to use anything else :)
16:10 tlockley lol
16:11 tlockley well im getting lunch right now but soon i may ask you some zfs questions
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16:12 yNos i dont know much about nitsuko
16:12 yNos at all actually
16:12 angy ok I'll go home, have a nap
16:13 angy then be avalaible for anything
16:13 tlockley cool, just drop me a mention
16:13 angy ok
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16:26 BitViper ARGH !!! *facedesk* Winter Storm warning for my area tonight. North of me is supposed to get 6-8 inches or more of snow tonight ... South of me is supposed to get 6-8 inches of snow tonight ... ... ... my area is supposed to get ... ... 3-6 inches ... ... W.T.F. ?????
16:27 * BitViper glares at mother nature ... NOT FUNNY !!!
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16:28 Lwq1996 Hi
16:29 Lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
16:29 BotSteve Lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 8.63 hours ago at 2012-02-23 07:51:41 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 16:29:31 UTC
16:30 Lwq1996 Awe :/
16:33 yNos BitViper: wzzm says that most of the snow will fall south of 46 and north of 10
16:39 wannabe1987 ...
16:41 BitViper yNos : yeah, in between which is me :(
16:41 Experimentonomen it lives!!
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16:43 * BitViper looks around franticly ... WHAT lives ?? (I think i smell it!)
16:44 Experimentonomen BitViper, the piece of shit amp i cobbled together
16:45 BitViper Experimentonomen : well that explains the smell of burning shit then. =)
16:45 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/ZhPO7
16:45 BotSteve Title: POSamp - Imgur
16:46 BitViper that looks awful wimpy compared to your usual
16:46 Experimentonomen hm
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16:55 tonsofpcs yNos: same as NEC.  Annoying digital-control pair + PCM audio pair....
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16:58 wannabe1987 Hackbat: they don't want a live irc feed in there because of things we disucss that *should* be in nsfw but arent :P
16:59 hhrlisa hot
16:59 hhrlisa wait is hackbat the nice lookin fella from the video last nigh of ynos and some guy making the sign have a sezuire?
17:00 yNos no, that is Slewfo0t
17:00 hhrlisa ah
17:00 hhrlisa alrighty then
17:00 hhrlisa i like putting ames to faces
17:00 hhrlisa names*
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17:05 wannabe1987 i had a photo of Hackbat somewhere....
17:05 angy and back home, I want to sleep!
17:05 wannabe1987 but you're drunk!
17:05 wannabe1987 did you drive?
17:05 angy I live the corner next to my office, so I walk
17:06 wannabe1987 ok
17:06 wannabe1987 better tahn driving
17:06 angy I don't own a car anymore, I steal them when needed
17:06 wannabe1987 i see
17:07 angy and driving in Paris is just too mad
17:09 wannabe1987 my phone fell on the floor....guess that means i'm not supposed to figure out why my boss called
17:09 angy my phone likes crashing from time to time
17:10 angy most of them are when I am currently in a  call
17:10 wannabe1987 lol
17:13 Seroster electricguy, FUCKING RADIOTJÄNST
17:14 Electricguy o'rly?
17:14 Seroster Jag har ingen jävla tv era inavlade tjockhuvade fitthoror -.-
17:14 Seroster Yeah... Rly. =P
17:14 Electricguy rly?
17:15 * Experimentonomen uploads a vid of the pos amp
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17:16 wannabe1987 hi jess
17:16 Experimentonomen .cookie wannabe1987 and KawaiiJess
17:16 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987 and KawaiiJess, I baked you an oatmeal chocolate chip cookie!
17:16 wannabe1987 nom
17:20 yNos slewfoot: how far did you get last night?
17:22 hhrlisa alright im gnna go lay down..
17:24 T[a]los452 its puppy kicking time, i think
17:24 wannabe1987 puppy kicking?
17:24 T[a]los452 ok not really, but the urge is so long
17:24 T[a]los452 long - strong
17:24 T[a]los452 wow im so fumed
17:24 Experimentonomen fy fan Seroster va du svär :P
17:25 Seroster Jamen jag är ju jävligt trött på att radiotjänst ska rövknulla mig konstant och fråga om jag har en jävla tv en gång i veckan. "Du kan inte ha råkat köpa en och inte hunnit registrera den?"
17:25 yNos perp
17:25 T[a]los452 no speakie
17:25 yNos translate.google.com
17:26 yNos Well, I'm damn tired of radio service to rövknulla me constantly and ask if I have a fucking TV once a week. "You can not be a victim buy one and not had time to register it? "
17:26 Experimentonomen i got the letter once, i stuck it in the shredder and havent heard a word since
17:27 T[a]los452 nope,botsteve should auto translate   LOL
17:27 T[a]los452 if they can make a trivia bot, darnit you can get a translator bot
17:27 Monkeh Please no
17:27 Seroster Almost a proper translatipon
17:27 T[a]los452 clearly im being dificult only
17:27 Monkeh Unless it does Klingon.
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17:27 T[a]los452 i dont care either way
17:27 Monkeh Klingon would be cool.
17:28 Seroster yNos, One of the suckiest things with this country is that you have to pay radiotjänst if you got a tv
17:28 Seroster That money goes to the public service channels
17:28 Monkeh Seroster: Pffft, stop whining.
17:28 Monkeh We pay a TV license too.
17:28 T[a]los452 ok, bbl
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17:28 Seroster Yeah, but tv license sucks.
17:28 Experimentonomen Seroster, u dont have to, i have a tv but its not plugged in, i shoved their letter asking if i have a tv down the paper shredder and they never sent another letter
17:28 Monkeh Not really, no.
17:28 Seroster Just pay for it with the fucking taxes and call it a day
17:29 Experimentonomen ÿes i have not given the radio service a single dime
17:29 Seroster Having people run around asking me if I have a TV is far more expensive than just throwing it on the tax
17:29 Seroster Experimentonomen, Oh yes you still have to pay
17:29 Monkeh Seroster: My TV license pays for Dr. Who.
17:29 Seroster I have a friend that used a 42'' tv as a computer screen, they bitched about it and he even desoldered the damn reciever thing from the tv, still had to pay.
17:30 Experimentonomen i never even watch tv, i only use it as a 42" computer/xbox360 monitor
17:30 Experimentonomen and even that is rarely
17:30 Experimentonomen i havent turned it on in so long that i dunno if it even works anymore
17:30 * yNos doesnt have a TV
17:31 * yNos doesnt want a tv
17:31 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un_AzGz5vGo
17:31 BotSteve Title: Piece of shit amplifier - YouTube
17:32 Monkeh yNos: Anything good on TV you can just download and watch when you want.
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17:33 Experimentonomen i cancelled my boxer card since i never used it anyways
17:42 Experimentonomen did Electricguy ragequit on his project ?
17:42 Electricguy nope
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17:43 Experimentonomen g'day sparky
17:43 SparkyProjects Hi
17:44 yNos who writes code for the bot?
17:44 Monkeh yNos: BatSteve-Away, who needs thumping
17:45 yNos does the bot do all the logging for the channel?
17:45 Experimentonomen hm a swede in a irc channel about audio thinks i sound norwegian o_O
17:48 SparkyProjects yNos, i think ilbot does the logging, log page is 'Powered by ilbot'
17:48 Experimentonomen so wannabe1987, do u like gmod or does it suck ?
17:49 yNos i see no user named ilbot.
17:49 wannabe1987 i can't play it yet....my computer fails at logging into the server
17:49 SparkyProjects i see ilbot in the userlist, just below the ops
17:50 * Experimentonomen yells at wannabe1987's computer
17:50 wannabe1987 and Cpro has to hack a video driver together for me to be able to play terraria
17:50 wannabe1987 we haven't tried mc cuz i can't afford it atm
17:51 Experimentonomen terraria is a weird game, its very similar to minecraft in many aspects¨
17:51 wannabe1987 so i am told
17:51 Monkeh yNos: I do all the logging. ;P
17:52 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, i did a lame useless piece of shit project today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Un_AzGz5vGo :P
17:52 wannabe1987 Monkeh is a bot?
17:52 BotSteve Title: Piece of shit amplifier - YouTube
17:53 yNos i was trying to figure out if the bot could do some filtering... anyone who has +v gets their messages sent to the firewall machine t be parsed into a packet for the board in the lounge
17:53 wannabe1987 ahhh
17:54 wannabe1987 you could also ask astro73|alice, he does some coding
17:54 SparkyProjects ynos you may need to make a logging bot of your own
17:54 yNos i just dont want to write an irc client ;)
17:55 astro73|alice BotSteve could do that, although I think it would be preferable to run your own code at the lab
17:55 astro73|alice and there are piles of IRC libraries available
17:55 wannabe1987 http://a.images.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/15067840.jpg
17:56 SparkyProjects Experimentonomen: Hard to tell over YT,  but it sounds ok
17:56 yNos i will run my own at the lab.. i have a little shell script that is a simple rx only service..
17:56 yNos udp to keep the load down..
17:57 Monkeh wannabe1987: Sort of
17:57 wannabe1987 i see.  so you're a cyborg?
17:58 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, it sounds like shit
17:58 Experimentonomen and the SOA of the TIP35/36 transistors is just laughable
17:59 Monkeh wannabe1987: A distributed one!
18:00 wannabe1987 ?
18:01 yNos distributed over a chair that is.
18:03 Cprossu Hahahahahah @ wannabe1987
18:05 yNos Cprossu: i see there was a copter crash in your neck of the woods.. were you playing with lasers again?
18:05 Experimentonomen g'day Cprossu
18:05 yNos was a bit south of you.. yuma
18:06 Monkeh yNos: :D
18:06 Cprossu no that wasn't me
18:06 Cprossu helicopters crash here usually do to 1) Power lines and 2) Car chases
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18:06 roadran422 Hey!
18:06 BotSteve roadran422: I have the following messages for you:
18:06 BotSteve At 12:41Z, einball asked me to tell roadran422 WTH are you talking about!?
18:06 Monkeh Cprossu: Police pilots that crap?
18:07 Cprossu (we had 2 news helicopters crash together and fall into a park a while back)
18:07 HighMan I'm on mirc from schoool
18:07 HighMan|School Anything new?
18:08 wannabe1987 you're not on ignore....
18:08 wannabe1987 there
18:08 wannabe1987 much better
18:08 HighMan|School wannabe1987: xD Hi
18:08 wannabe1987 toast said that ignoreing your mask would work, but i see that it failed
18:08 HighMan|School Oh thanks wannabe1987 :P
18:08 HighMan|School I was trying to use xChat yesterday. That was fun.
18:08 HighMan|School Where is monks?
18:10 HighMan|School During the day... It's quiet!
18:12 HighMan|School .log
18:12 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
18:14 HighMan|School BotSteve: tell Experimentonomen Oh thanks! Your so nice too!
18:14 BotSteve HighMan|School: I'll pass that on when Experimentonomen is around.
18:14 HighMan|School Hey einball you on?
18:17 HighMan|School Hey Coderjoe
18:19 * HighMan|School Yells at the idiots sticking shit in to the fans of the computers
18:19 HighMan|School Stupid idiots.
18:20 KawaiiJess No no no... You have to put the cheese in the optical drive
18:20 HighMan|School xD
18:20 HighMan|School I used that as a coster KawaiiJess
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18:21 KawaiiJess What, a cheese filled optical drive?
18:21 KawaiiJess I think you meant coaster?
18:21 HighMan|School ... Where is the any key?
18:21 yNos big round one on the front of the computer
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18:22 tlockley heyo
18:22 yNos yo
18:22 HighMan|School yNos: The one I used to turn it on
18:22 HighMan|School hey tlockley
18:22 tlockley wats up HighMan|School
18:23 HighMan|School Nothing... Just watching others kill the computer
18:23 tlockley …?
18:23 * wannabe1987 doesnt want to be terminated
18:23 HighMan|School tlockley: They are sticking shit in to fans
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18:23 wannabe1987 hi mashpriborintorg
18:23 Experimentonomen botsteve: tell HighMan|School to leave me alone, i dont want anything to do with you!!!
18:23 BotSteve Experimentonomen: I'll pass that on when HighMan|School is around.
18:23 BotSteve experimentonomen: I have the following messages for you:
18:23 mashpriborintorg hi
18:23 BotSteve At 18:14Z, HighMan|School asked me to tell experimentonomen Oh thanks! Your so nice too!
18:24 HighMan|School Hi mashpriborintorg
18:24 BotSteve highman|school: I have the following messages for you:
18:24 BotSteve At 18:23Z, Experimentonomen asked me to tell highman|school to leave me alone, i dont want anything to do with you!!!
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18:25 HighMan|School Gots to go! Damn.
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18:25 y007ghg7- .tfw 74965
18:25 BotSteve 68 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING NICE IN Westville, OK!  'READ A FUCKIN' BOOK'
18:26 yNos .tfw grr
18:26 BotSteve 33 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Grand Rapids Charter Township, MI, !  'Blue balls x 2'
18:26 yNos what do you mean, it is above freezing!
18:26 y007ghg7- lol
18:26 tlockley .tfw 02747
18:26 BotSteve 57 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN North Dartmouth, MA!  'Everything's nice butter weather!'
18:27 y007ghg7- yesterday it was almost 78F here
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18:27 yNos i need some 40+ eather
18:27 Experimentonomen brrrr i feel cold :/
18:27 yNos **weather
18:27 yNos i want to ride the bike again.
18:28 wannabe1987 Experimentonomen: me too
18:28 * Experimentonomen gives wannabe1987 a blanket
18:29 SparkyProjects yNos, haven't you found a way to embed heating tape into your bike leathers ?
18:29 wannabe1987 use it for yourself...i have to get dressed soon
18:30 Experimentonomen wannabe1987, guys dont wrap themselves in blankets :P
18:30 wannabe1987 i've known plenty of males who do that
18:31 yNos SparkyProjects: yes, i have some teflon coated wire on order, to put into my gloves..
18:31 yNos supposed to be here within a week..
18:31 yNos ordered it last week...
18:32 SparkyProjects It will start to get warm before it arrives :D
18:32 yNos i know :(
18:32 yNos using a small pwm motor control from a prev project.
18:33 SparkyProjects You could build the Mythbusters 'bubble bike' canopy quicker
18:34 yNos my bike is pretty well faired, i just need something to keep the fingers warm
18:34 yNos i have been wanting to make a 2 seater tandem recumbant, fulle enclosed.. tadpole configuration.
18:34 yNos maybe a motor, maybe not.
18:36 yNos damn, ladies voices sound like crap over ssb..
18:36 yNos well.. higher pitched voices.
18:36 yNos 14.300 mhz
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18:37 Coderjoe well, less the SSB part and more the much more limited bandwidth down at those frequencies
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18:38 yNos yupyup, i know why..
18:38 Coderjoe woo
18:38 hhrlisa and im back. i can't seem to stay away from this place
18:38 yNos can tell the 2ladies that are running dsb vs usb
18:39 Coderjoe over 260 people RSVP'd so far for the kent county skywarn training tonight
18:39 yNos want to go, cant..
18:39 yNos family stuff.
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18:41 tlockley angy you awake?
18:41 angy yep
18:42 tlockley wanna give me a hand real quick with zfs?
18:42 tlockley I have all the tools installed but im unsure of all the right commands
18:42 angy sure
18:42 wannabe1987 hhrlisa: its cuz we're addicting
18:42 hhrlisa you're all like crack
18:42 wannabe1987 mhm
18:43 hhrlisa :)
18:43 Experimentonomen g'day lisa
18:43 hhrlisa hi
18:43 tlockley so i have 14 disks (da1 - da14) and i want to use 13 of them for a raidz2 with one hotspair
18:44 tlockley and i have been reading the man pages and came up with this
18:44 tlockley zpool create sector1 raidz2 /dev/da1 /dev/da2 /dev/da3 /dev/da4 /dev/da5 /dev/da6 /dev/da7 /dev/da8 /dev/da9 /dev/da10 /dev/da11 /dev/da12 /dev/da13 spare /dev/da14
18:45 angy how many controllers do you have?
18:45 tlockley two
18:45 tlockley each has control of 7 drives
18:45 angy I would not do a raidz2 on all that drives
18:46 angy I would create 2 raidz on 6 disks with one hot spare, then stripe them
18:46 angy or 2 raidz2 then stripe them
18:46 angy will be better on performances
18:46 tlockley alright
18:47 tlockley how would i write those commands for zfs?
18:47 tlockley i assume the zpool command is mostly the same
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18:47 angy I would do
18:47 Coderjoe I'd also probably not use raidz, if you have any intention of growing. you can't add zdevs to a raidz later. granted, if you do striped mirrors, you lose half the space, but you keep two copies of everything anyway and have all your data checksummed
18:48 angy let me just close my other windows and go from bed to desk
18:48 tlockley Coderjoe: im already at capacity
18:48 Coderjoe you can add zdevs to a pool
18:48 tlockley physically
18:48 Coderjoe just not to a raidz
18:48 Coderjoe well that's a shame
18:49 yNos you cant re-balance the raid?
18:49 yNos or is it just a huge pita?
18:49 tlockley At this point in time if i get a new set of disks it because the ones i have explolded
18:50 angy zpool add tank drive
18:50 angy that will had any drive to a tank
18:50 angy not a problem what tank is
18:50 angy zfs will rebalance itself
18:50 tlockley woah
18:51 angy http://www.c0t0d0s0.org/ that wbsite is going to be your best friend with zfs
18:51 BotSteve Title: c0t0d0s0.org
18:51 angy I'm thinking of what is going to be your best bet with 14 drive
18:51 angy privilege to speed or security?
18:52 tlockley speed, i am planning on serving media(video, audio, etc)
18:52 angy how many clients?
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18:52 tlockley 2-5 concurrent
18:53 angy Ok, so then 2x(6+1), 0 hotspare configuration
18:53 tlockley thats fine
18:53 angy drives are spread 0-6, 7-13 ?
18:54 tlockley yep
18:54 wannabe-afk bye
18:55 angy that is a compromise on speed for 5 clients
18:55 pockitaru hell im tierd
18:55 HighMan Sorry all! I didn't mean for that shit... I'm at school and peopel gonna take my username sorry.
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18:55 tlockley honestly i think the newtork is going to present the largest bottle neck
18:56 angy zpool create tank \
18:56 angy raidz /dev/da0 /dev/da1 /dev/da2 /dev/da3 /dev/da4 /dev/da5 /dev/da6 \
18:56 angy raidz /dev/da7 /dev/da8 /dev/da9 /dev/da10 /dev/da11 /dev/da12 /dev/da13
18:56 angy if you have two drives that are useless into the host, add them as a cache
18:56 pockitaru whats all that angy
18:56 pockitaru ?
18:57 angy if you got two unused SSD use them as ZIL
18:57 tlockley okay
18:57 angy then, network, even 10Gb is going to be the bottleneck :)
18:57 angy I tend to use SSD as cache, but once again, not in the same env
18:57 angy pockitaru: that's ZFS magic
18:58 Coderjoe hey look! more of those JVC time-lapse camcorders are up for the wootoff right now
18:58 wannabe-afk tell boden?
18:59 angy most of the times, I use 3-way mirrors for zpools
18:59 tlockley i dont have that kind of equipment to thow around
18:59 pockitaru o cool just wondering thanks angy
19:00 angy you need sun constellation :p
19:00 pockitaru and ZSF is?
19:00 pockitaru ZFS*
19:00 angy the last file system
19:00 pockitaru o
19:02 tlockley alright i got that command done angy
19:02 angy you named your pool tank?
19:02 angy just issue zpool status to see what was created
19:02 Coderjoe wannabe-afk: I don't have a way to do so in a timely manner. I also don't have the funds to buy one for donation at the moment. wootoffs generally go pretty fast, and this item is almost gone
19:03 tlockley no, i named it sector1
19:03 angy :)
19:03 Coderjoe yay
19:03 Coderjoe so tired of people naming their zpools "tank"
19:03 sndwrx phew.
19:04 tlockley lol
19:04 angy it's the easy way
19:04 angy mine are named zhome.ip
19:04 Coderjoe yeah... don't bother reading and understanding directions, just mindlessly follow documentation howtos
19:05 angy I don't know a lot of person that understand ZFS :p
19:05 tlockley if im given a choice in naming things i try to make up my own
19:05 tlockley i get the broad concepts, but there are too many choices
19:05 angy zfs is a very complex filesystem
19:06 angy as a concept it's very simple, but the implementation is very well thought for huge system and is very hard to really understand how it works
19:07 angy I think that you don't care about snapshots/deduplication on your volume?
19:07 tlockley not really but i may play with it at some point
19:07 Coderjoe you don't need to fully understand zfs to look at docs and realize that the parameter after "create" in the zpool command line is the name of your zpool, which can be just about anything you want
19:07 angy you understand the concept of zfs create/destroy?
19:07 tlockley sorta
19:08 angy so you're able to play with nearly all features of zfs without compromizing any part of the FS
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19:08 Seroster http://thedoghousediaries.com/ <3
19:08 BotSteve Title: DOGHOUSE
19:08 pockitaru taxes suck
19:09 angy if you got at anypoint another zfs filer somewhere, play, at least for the fun with the export/import and shadow functions of zfs
19:09 angy it's just incredible
19:09 Seroster pockitaru, Ever been driving on a road in mehico?
19:09 pockitaru no
19:09 Seroster That's why you want taxes.
19:09 pockitaru lol
19:10 angy now you have you sector1 volume, just ``zfs create sector1/video''
19:10 angy the, given that you have the CPU power for it, compress!
19:10 angy zfs set compression=lzma sector1/video
19:10 angy and there you have a lot of free space :)
19:10 Seroster And when your idiot friend smokes a joint while fueling his bike in your living room you are going to be pretty damn happy you paid taxes for the firefighters.
19:11 Coderjoe why would you want to try and compress something that is already compressed?
19:12 tlockley dv?
19:12 angy because he did not say it was compressed
19:12 tlockley its not just going to be compresses media, there will be regular files too
19:12 angy he said document as a whole
19:12 angy and lzma is great on already compressed data with a weaker algorithm
19:13 angy but is a big CPU grasp
19:13 tlockley now that command does that make a fs that i can mount?
19:13 tlockley or is there more to go?
19:13 angy zfs create will create the fs
19:13 angy and mount it
19:13 angy zpool creat && zfs create is all what is needed to start
19:14 angy then there is a myriad of options that are more or less useful
19:14 tlockley WoAh!
19:14 angy don't forget to scrub the device once in a while though
19:14 tlockley scrub?
19:14 angy verify the volume for all corruptions
19:15 angy it's zfs fsck
19:15 tlockley ah, would that be good for say a cron to do?
19:15 angy zpool scrub zhome.12
19:15 angy no cron for that, it can be deadly
19:15 tlockley ok
19:15 angy just send it once every 2-6 months
19:15 angy or when you have a dead drive :)
19:16 angy a scrub takes about 4-10 days in my pools
19:16 tlockley O
19:17 angy zhome.1   15.7T
19:18 angy that's used space
19:18 tlockley dang
19:18 tlockley is that personal?
19:18 angy there is still ~2T left on that one
19:18 angy nope
19:18 angy :)
19:18 angy I don't have enough data to fill that
19:18 tlockley didnt think so
19:18 tlockley total avail is 5.29T
19:18 angy that's a nice amount
19:19 angy export                  680G    645G   35.5G
19:19 tlockley and when i next visit the island im picking up 4 80GB SATA drives to add as cache
19:19 angy that's home pool
19:19 angy add 2 as cache, 2 as ZIL
19:19 tlockley what exactly does ZIL do?
19:20 angy zfs intent log is for sync write
19:20 tlockley ah
19:20 angy if you don't use sync write, you don't need it
19:20 angy what version is your pool?
19:20 tlockley what would i use sync write with/for?
19:20 angy zpool upgrade
19:20 yNos you have to tell it to sync?
19:20 yNos lilke oldschool
19:20 angy email server, database server
19:21 angy iscsi
19:21 yNos while true; do sleep 10; sync ; done
19:21 yNos eh?
19:21 yNos oh
19:21 tlockley i may do some of those things
19:21 tlockley so yah i will have 2 a ZIL
19:21 angy zfs sync for its own
19:21 tlockley v14
19:22 angy but when you start a DMU, it create a ZIL entry
19:22 angy when your process will call fsync or O_DSYNC it will sync
19:22 angy zil will be discarded
19:23 angy in v14 if you separate zil, you won't be able to remove that
19:23 tlockley hm? separate zil?
19:23 angy move log on a differente device
19:23 tlockley non zfs question… is it possible to configure kfreebsd to boot using UUID? if i start the server with my array alrady on it fails to boot
19:24 tlockley oh
19:24 angy you need a monolitich booter
19:25 tlockley im not using zfs as boot
19:25 angy oh, that's easier :)
19:25 tlockley just storage
19:25 angy grub2 should be able to boot uuid
19:26 angy blkid return something?
19:26 tlockley no
19:26 angy remember that you will have to update your fstab to uuid as well
19:26 tlockley os drive is da0
19:26 tlockley i was hoping/planning
19:27 tlockley hope
19:27 angy vol_id -u /dev/da0 ?
19:27 tlockley cmd not found
19:27 angy hum...
19:28 angy I'm currently out of idea for it, I'll think about it and create a pof somewhere to give you an answer
19:28 angy it's time to go find dinner :)
19:28 yNos i need to find a lunch
19:29 tlockley alright
19:29 yNos angy, whats for dinner?
19:29 angy no idea yet
19:30 yNos i am thinking of a samich and soup
19:30 yNos simple
19:30 tlockley grub-probe
19:30 angy I have some vegetable I need to cook, so it's going to be vegetable wise
19:31 yNos hmm.. chicken vag soup doesnt sound bad.
19:31 yNos veg
19:31 yNos because those chicken vag's arent all that filling.
19:32 angy not vegetable, I don't have milk, so another thing
19:32 yNos pulverized oats works well for a milk replacement.
19:32 yNos same with rice
19:32 tlockley angy do i need update grub if i change my fstab to use uuid?
19:33 angy yep
19:33 angy you can't have only one using uuid
19:33 tlockley ok, also do i need the uuid for my swap?
19:34 tlockley as grub wont give it to me
19:35 tlockley http://pastie.org/private/gypf4di9kgiyi9dzhygeeq is my new fstab
19:35 BotSteve Title: Private Paste - Pastie
19:36 angy you may not need the swap uuid
19:36 tlockley ok
19:36 angy I'm not sure when it get enabled in kfreebsd
19:37 tlockley well i had a hella time getting it installed
19:38 tlockley odd there is an entry in the grub device.map for one of my raid drives
19:38 tonsofpcs yawn
19:38 tlockley should i just remove that?
19:39 pockitaru ttul
19:39 tonsofpcs finally got the PBX extension working
19:39 tlockley that took some time
19:40 tonsofpcs yes, yes it did.
19:44 angy damn, there is nothing to eat appart things that I can't cook
19:44 tlockley oh no
19:45 Electricguy i want to convert the PPM signals from a RC receiver to static outputs..
19:47 angy that's going to remind me my january month
19:49 angy I lost my glasses :'(
19:49 Electricguy oh fuck
19:50 tlockley oop
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19:56 HighMan .log
19:56 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
19:56 Experimentonomen *yawn*
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20:02 astro73|alice OMG!
20:02 astro73|alice I'm starting to hate JS a little bit
20:02 tlockley oh?
20:02 angy .cookie tlockley
20:02 BotSteve Here you go, tlockley, I baked you a white chocolate mocha cookie!
20:02 HighMan astro73|alice, What's wrong
20:03 tlockley thanks angy
20:03 angy you'll have a real one when I'll come back to your side of Us
20:03 astro73|alice for ... in against arrays and strings? the variable is a string, even though it's a numerical index
20:04 tlockley i look forward to the meetup
20:05 tlockley ok so UUID fixed the problem now to figure out the config "helper" scripts
20:07 angy for config helper, run windows!
20:08 HighMan tell: rageriot if I were to use netuser and make a new account on a school computer, acess system32 files and try to copy locked files... Would the school catch me? I also used the internet...
20:08 tlockley test
20:08 tlockley huh
20:08 HighMan BotSteve tell: rageriot if I were to use netuser and make a new account on a school computer, acess system32 files and try to copy locked files... Would the school catch me? I also used the internet...
20:08 HighMan I got this.
20:09 yNos tlockley: hows the test?
20:09 tlockley i derped and forgot to escape slashes
20:09 yNos oop
20:12 astro73|alice also, JS has a funny way of handling "this"
20:12 yNos anyone know of a papa john's pizza ordering script?
20:12 HighMan ...
20:12 tlockley like to automate their website?
20:12 HighMan Ewh Papa Johns
20:12 astro73|alice it's not part of closures, so it just gets set to the object that last got a method called in the stack
20:12 yNos so i can order a pizza from cli..
20:13 HighMan yNos, Dominos FTW
20:13 yNos i think there was one for dominos...
20:13 yNos BC pizza or Fricanos ftw..
20:13 yNos both local..
20:14 BitViper ynos is someone working specificly on that scroller sign in the lobby, or need someone to make the interface chris wants ?
20:14 yNos its mostly been slewfoot
20:15 slewfoot yes it has
20:15 slewfoot but you guys have been a huge help
20:15 yNos now that he has cracked the proto and got it on the network, we can do lots more with it.
20:15 HighMan Slewfo0t? The new guy? Robot guy? xD
20:15 slewfoot I actually coding a VB app to send messages quickly to the thing
20:16 BitViper vb ?!?!?! wth ?
20:16 slewfoot that's what I know
20:16 HighMan Why not via telnet slewfoot?
20:16 * HighMan Doesn't know what that even is xD
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20:16 yNos i have made a shell script that will dosome fun for us.. just need to make some glue..
20:16 astro73|alice don't make suggestions you don't understand
20:16 slewfoot cool
20:17 yNos dont want to play with it till i get down there.
20:17 BitViper I was gonna modify code i wrote for a linux device driver for a 4x16 lcd years ago, allows any program to write to the lcd as if it was a file
20:17 astro73|alice BitViper: Hackaday just posted a thing about a linux driver to drive an LCD module from a parallel port
20:17 slewfoot telnet? not sure how I would even go about doing telnet to the thing.
20:17 slewfoot yea - this isn't like that
20:17 LeePod .seen wannabe-afk
20:17 BotSteve LeePod: I last saw wannabe-afk 1.32 hours ago at 2012-02-23 18:58:28 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 20:17:57 UTC
20:17 astro73|alice slewfoot: telnet is basically ASCII over a TCP connection
20:18 BitViper astro73|alice : yeah, there are several like that, and some of them look amazingly like what i wrote a decade ago. yes mine was parallel port to the lcd
20:18 yNos i was using nc
20:18 slewfoot I've used telnet before - getting to talk 9600baud 7e2 to the sign would be the first trick
20:18 yNos telnet tries to do some stuff that would confuse the thing
20:18 astro73|alice RS-232?
20:18 astro73|alice it uses 7e2? really?
20:19 slewfoot then you still have to wrap the message in the protocol
20:19 slewfoot yes - really
20:19 astro73|alice ...
20:19 BitViper astro73|alice : but my driver had functionality that i havent seen anywhere else
20:19 astro73|alice wtf?
20:19 astro73|alice who uses 7e2?
20:19 slewfoot the sign
20:19 yNos who sends ascii encoded hex?
20:19 astro73|alice yNos: i've seen that in some embedded stuff
20:20 yNos silly
20:20 astro73|alice but I thought everyone did 8_1 these days
20:20 HighMan yNos, Have you seen that guy who hides from gays?
20:20 astro73|alice idk how they do checksums usually
20:20 HighMan He works at walmart
20:20 slewfoot well - since the RealTerm software I was using to test with liked the ascii encoded hex better than ^T characters, I used it
20:21 astro73|alice slewfoot: it's just RS-232 with ascii-encoded hex?
20:21 astro73|alice that's easy
20:21 yNos HighMan: yeah, he likes to leave his goddamn snickers wrappers all lover the place
20:21 HighMan yNos, :P Joke failed.
20:21 slewfoot did you see the forum post on the message I sent
20:21 yNos HighMan: do you still beat your girlfriend?
20:21 slewfoot check out the protocol manual - you'll get a much better idea of what we're dealing with
20:22 HighMan yNos, What? No abuse.
20:22 yNos good
20:22 yNos happy to hear you quit
20:22 HighMan ?
20:22 astro73|alice link?
20:22 BitViper yNos : its not abuse if she enjoys it
20:22 HighMan I never was and I don't have one... yNos
20:22 HighMan BitViper, Especially with a baton.
20:22 BitViper HighMan : no comment LOL
20:22 angy you don't have an yNos?
20:22 angy shame on you, they are so awesome
20:23 tlockley finally got that all sorted out
20:23 angy finally had dinner :)
20:23 slewfoot http://www.adaptivedisplays.com/Documentation/getattachment.php?data=ODh8QWxwaGEgSW5kdXN0cmlhbCBQcm90b2NvbCAocG4gOTcxMTg4MTQpLnBkZg%3D%3D
20:23 tlockley now my box doesent fail on boot anymore.
20:23 tlockley good to hear
20:23 astro73|alice found the post
20:23 angy yay! great step tlockley
20:23 angy now you have to play with zfs
20:23 tlockley yes
20:23 angy you'll see how awesome it is
20:25 tlockley what it already does is real amazing. It usuially takes hours to get a RAID array ready for production. I just created an array of 14 disks and they are just sitting idle waiting for data
20:25 angy :)
20:25 angy try getting a mirror of raid5 in a conventional raid is a pain
20:25 tlockley yes
20:26 astro73|alice that's a lot of reading for something i'm not actually working on
20:27 tlockley also trying to enable compression i get this...
20:27 tlockley cannot set property for 'sector1': 'compression' must be one of 'on | off | lzjb | gzip | gzip-[1-9]'
20:27 tlockley thoughts?
20:27 angy lzjb then
20:27 angy or gzip
20:27 angy I'll go with lzjb then if too big impact on perf, go with gzip
20:27 tlockley goin lzjb
20:28 tlockley fact
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20:30 lwq1996 is wannabe here yet?
20:31 astro73|alice slewfoot, ynos: can someone summarize the protocol?
20:31 slewfoot What do you want to know?
20:32 astro73|alice is it RS-232 (computer serial port)?
20:32 slewfoot It currently is set up with a ethernet to serial converter that talks rs232
20:32 astro73|alice so the sign itself talks RS-232, but you have it connected to the network
20:33 slewfoot yes
20:33 astro73|alice so you shouldn't care about about baud and bit settings, right?
20:34 slewfoot no - still need to worry about that for the driver I'm using
20:34 astro73|alice ...
20:34 slewfoot I can probably set it in the adapter directly
20:34 astro73|alice i would think so
20:34 slewfoot but I'd have to do that in the lab
20:34 astro73|alice it depends
20:34 slewfoot I don't have access to port 80 remotely
20:35 astro73|alice SSH port forward?
20:35 slewfoot I'm sure I could get ynos to do a little port magic if I asked nicely
20:35 slewfoot but there is no need just yet.
20:35 slewfoot I can talk to the adapter from here just fine
20:35 HighMan Good or bad idea to heat up soup in a can on the stove?
20:35 astro73|alice it would make the software a lot easier to write
20:36 slewfoot makes no difference really... my computer just sees it as a com port
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20:37 astro73|alice oh, one of those things
20:37 slewfoot yup
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20:37 astro73|alice i would have just configured the adaptor to make it a plain TCP thing
20:38 slewfoot I will eventually - one step at a time. I know this works
20:38 astro73|alice anyway
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20:38 astro73|alice VB? what are you targetting?
20:39 astro73|alice w/e
20:39 slewfoot so the protocol works like this... I have to start with a start of header, a type code, and a display address
20:39 astro73|alice not unusual
20:40 slewfoot then send a start of text a command code a priority and the message # I want to write to the sign
20:40 astro73|alice message # and priority? unusual, but ok
20:41 Seroster damn cat hissing at me
20:42 Seroster He thinks I'm going to steal the chicken wing I just gave him,
20:42 Seroster Might steal it just to mess with him...
20:42 slewfoot then an escape code, a display position, select whether we rotate the message or hold it, set the speed and justify center or left.
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20:42 astro73|alice piles and piles of option
20:44 slewfoot then we set the font, color, size, and flashing on or off
20:45 astro73|alice is there actually text in that command?
20:47 slewfoot then you send the ascii message
20:47 slewfoot followed by any objects or variables that you want in it
20:47 astro73|alice complicated
20:47 slewfoot then end it with a stop code
20:47 slewfoot exactly
20:47 astro73|alice i would not be using a static language on that
20:47 slewfoot it's a PITA
20:48 slewfoot so - I'm writing a little VB app to creat messages to send to the sign
20:48 astro73|alice to effectively wrap that, you need language features that aren't really available in static languages (C, C++, Java, .NET, ...)
20:48 slewfoot and Chris keeps asking for IRC text on the thing... HA!
20:49 Istas WHich is a bad idea all on its own. :)
20:49 BitViper irc text, stomper and thumper status, that would all be sooooo easy if not for vb
20:49 astro73|alice no kidding
20:49 astro73|alice tedious? maybe
20:49 slewfoot lol you guys are funny
20:49 BitViper network usage stats
20:49 astro73|alice but why the hell make it VB?
20:50 slewfoot because that's what I know
20:50 tlockley slewfoot are you the guy from yesterdays cpt. blog?
20:50 astro73|alice other than just playing around
20:50 slewfoot yes
20:50 tlockley ok, cool
20:50 astro73|alice do you know JavaScript? node might be a good network server for it
20:50 slewfoot we'll get it into C# or mono eventually
20:50 angy if well written in VB, it's always quite easy to re-write it afterward in C
20:50 astro73|alice same problems, different syntax
20:51 astro73|alice also, spend your time writing a library to present an API for the sign
20:51 slewfoot ProducerBill is working on the C# code, but I don't know where he's at and I want to play with it. :P
20:51 astro73|alice seriously.
20:51 astro73|alice You need to be making this as a client/server system
20:52 slewfoot Yep - we do
20:52 BitViper yeah, api is what is needed
20:52 BitViper wish i was in gr
20:52 angy not really, api is what needed
20:52 astro73|alice write a network server that handles lots of clients talking to the sign and gives them an easy interface
20:52 angy absolutly no need for client/server
20:52 slewfoot If I knew how to write an API, I'd be all over it.
20:52 BitViper yeah i wouldnt go with cliient server either, maybe an option on top of the api, but api first
20:53 astro73|alice slewfoot: you don't know how to write a library?
20:53 astro73|alice just how much code have you written?
20:53 slewfoot I'm not a PC coder - I write PLC software and SCADA software
20:53 astro73|alice ahh
20:53 astro73|alice no abstraction at all
20:54 slewfoot and lots of operator interfaces
20:54 BitViper that explains it
20:54 astro73|alice ok
20:54 astro73|alice do you know object oriented programming?
20:55 slewfoot yes
20:55 Electricguy lulz! :D http://www.n0.se/f/n/c9d06_gpbxu.jpg
20:55 slewfoot and enough C to get me extremely frustrated
20:55 astro73|alice what you really want is a class that takes information on how to connect to the sign and has a pile of methods to do the talking
20:56 astro73|alice it needs to abstract away the details of the protocol and try to keep modes and states consistant
20:56 tonsofpcs you connect to the sign with a vector, of course ;)
20:56 * astro73|alice beats tonsofpcs about the head with a large trout
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20:57 Electricguy solve this! http://www.n0.se/f/n/5217a_405385_10150546864612327_699972326_9548152_1192422536_n.jpg
20:57 Electricguy it's simple :P
20:58 HighMan DOICH LAND.
20:58 HighMan Tell me in english
20:58 Experimentonomen i suck at math
20:58 HighMan I can't read german.
20:59 angy slewfoot: but whatever you do, code it your way, having code already is great if you want to have someone write you a lib afterward
20:59 Electricguy the answer on that math problem is 2
20:59 MoxieMike_ yes it is
20:59 BitViper ugh, i wouldnt even use oop probably. would work, but i tend to avoid oop where i can
21:00 astro73|alice OOP works well for that aspect, since you need a single conceptual object with state and actions on it
21:00 astro73|alice even if the rest of the app isn't
21:00 BitViper but astros right about the abstraction
21:01 Electricguy LOL! http://www.n0.se/f/n/20fe7_45n4k.jpg
21:01 astro73|alice BitViper: even if it's not strictly oop, I bet you'll be doing OOP-like things
21:01 astro73|alice s = opensign(); send_text(s, "Hello, world!"); closesign(s);
21:02 astro73|alice still OOPy
21:02 slewfoot I'm just trying to get it semi-functional. I'd like to be able to have a twitter interface so that everyone can send messages to the sign via twitter.
21:02 tonsofpcs Electricguy: 2? not 1?
21:02 Electricguy nope. 2
21:02 angy you may want to include open/close into send_text
21:02 tonsofpcs it would help if I could read what it was asking...
21:02 BitViper astro73|alice : well any time youre doing proper abstraction youre doing "oop-like" things
21:02 astro73|alice angy: it depends on the application, but that would not be an unusual workflow
21:03 astro73|alice BitViper: fair enough
21:03 slewfoot that's kind-of what I'm working on. Setting up a UI that has all the options and then a text field to drop in whatever you want to start
21:03 Electricguy the text doesn't have anything with the math itself
21:03 angy if you want to send only one line/text at a time, it's not a good option to open/close
21:03 tonsofpcs well, seeing as 9313 != 1, ....
21:03 Electricguy ok, the thing is.. the number of circles = the answer
21:03 slewfoot then I'll set up some code to parse either IRC or twitter and dump it in
21:03 Electricguy BOOYA!!
21:03 angy if you need more than one commit, you may want it
21:03 tonsofpcs Electricguy: that's not math...
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21:03 * angy hugs injektion
21:03 Electricguy it got you thinking! ;)
21:04 astro73|alice angy: but if it's a long-running app, then you want that
21:04 angy not really
21:04 slewfoot oh - I forgot. all that protocol stuff I just rambled off - that's just the first part....
21:04 angy all depend on the process you do in the app
21:04 astro73|alice slewfoot: of course
21:04 HighMan XD
21:04 slewfoot then you have to send a trigger to the sign to get it to display the appropriate message
21:04 astro73|alice angy: well, yes. your design depends on the task.
21:05 HighMan "If you are going to be a dick, be a big one."
21:05 slewfoot or a trigger to update a variable
21:05 injektion hi angy
21:05 astro73|alice slewfoot: connect, send data, display.
21:05 slewfoot lol - yep, it's that simple
21:06 slewfoot stock data.... HA!!!
21:06 slewfoot oh - and the display clears itself whener you update any of the messages
21:07 astro73|alice ...?
21:07 astro73|alice so the "send data" phase blanks the display?
21:07 slewfoot yes
21:07 astro73|alice ...
21:07 astro73|alice i hope that'sa config
21:07 slewfoot no
21:07 astro73|alice so if you have to push it a complex animation, it flickers?
21:08 injektion I used to know the Alpha sign protocol by heart
21:08 slewfoot you would have to flip messages with different stuff on each message
21:08 slewfoot load them all first of course
21:08 astro73|alice ok, i want to smack the manufacturer a little bit
21:08 slewfoot there is not much animation available on this thing
21:09 slewfoot and it's not the normal firmware on the sign either
21:09 astro73|alice point is, pushing updates to the sign can take time, and a large update could create a flicker
21:09 slewfoot the firmware is on a PROM
21:09 Seroster injektion!
21:10 astro73|alice PROM?
21:10 injektion I won't be going to MI anytime soon http://gay.americablog.com/2011/12/now-its-illegal-gay-gays-to-flirt-in.html
21:10 astro73|alice oh, programmable ROM
21:10 BotSteve Title: Gay Politics | AMERICAblog Gay: Now it’s illegal for gays to flirt in Michigan
21:10 slewfoot Programmable Read Only Memory
21:10 astro73|alice i read "is a PROM"
21:11 slewfoot symantics
21:11 astro73|alice :P
21:11 astro73|alice is the normal firmware better? can we change the firmware?
21:11 slewfoot pricey
21:11 slewfoot and no variable
21:12 slewfoot variables
21:12 astro73|alice what are the variables?
21:12 astro73|alice lets you make string formats to fill in?
21:12 slewfoot numbers only
21:12 astro73|alice ok, what can you do with them?
21:12 slewfoot will use them for stomper / thumper / Gemini voltages
21:13 astro73|alice what are the capabilities of the sign software with regards to variables?
21:13 lwq1996 .seen hhrlisa
21:13 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw hhrlisa 2.27 hours ago at 2012-02-23 18:57:35 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 21:13:50 UTC
21:13 slewfoot I can update the variables without the sign blinking... and embed them into a message
21:13 lwq1996 :/
21:14 astro73|alice slewfoot: ok
21:14 astro73|alice as long as their numbers and not text
21:14 slewfoot you got it
21:16 astro73|alice limited use, but usable
21:16 astro73|alice does the sign have graphics options, too?
21:18 slewfoot not with this firmware
21:18 slewfoot well - not that I've found with this firmware.... you never know what's lurking around in there.
21:18 astro73|alice because trading graphics for variables? that sounds lame
21:18 slewfoot might be fun to send some crazy codes to the thing to see what happens
21:19 astro73|alice don't you have a firmware version and docs?
21:19 slewfoot It was designed to be on a plant floor
21:19 astro73|alice or you could just try graphics commands anyways
21:19 slewfoot the protocol document is the docs
21:19 slewfoot there is another protocol document that is quite different than this one... it has some graphics commands in it
21:20 astro73|alice oh, ok
21:20 slewfoot might try those sometime
21:20 astro73|alice so probably not
21:20 slewfoot the header stuff is the same, but the message formatting is different
21:21 astro73|alice *shrug*
21:21 astro73|alice the worst that happens is you have to reboot the sign, right?
21:25 slewfoot probably
21:25 slewfoot or just update the message to the correct one
21:26 slewfoot code seems to be coming along nicely... I've got it generating a decent text string... now just need to get it to the serial port.
21:27 astro73|alice there's a built-in API to talk to serial ports, right?
21:27 slewfoot yup
21:27 astro73|alice usually, they give you a file-like object
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21:27 slewfoot should be straight forward
21:28 astro73|alice should
21:28 slewfoot refernce the serial object - open the port - send the text.
21:28 astro73|alice something like that
21:29 slewfoot the serial object preferences are already set to 9600 7e2
21:29 astro73|alice set it in code anyway, i never trust settings
21:31 slewfoot I'll be creating a dialog with all the stuff in it eventually.
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21:38 astro73|alice true
21:40 lwq1996 hey astro do you know where wannabe went?
21:40 astro73|alice nope
21:41 astro73|alice i don't keep track of her
21:57 wannabe1987 lwq1996: i'm right here
21:58 wannabe1987 good to know, astro :P
21:58 * BitViper grabs the back of wannabe1987's undies and pulls them over wannabe1987's head!
21:59 wannabe1987 why?
21:59 HighMan Hi wannabe1987
21:59 HighMan YOUCH.
22:00 wannabe1987 what the fuck BitViper?  all i ever do is be nice to you.....and this is what i get in response?!
22:00 wannabe1987 :P
22:00 HighMan Just like chris! XD
22:00 wannabe1987 Experimentonomen: some 17 year old....why?
22:00 wannabe1987 he's like Seroster
22:00 HighMan .c -32c to f
22:00 BotSteve -25.6 degrees Fahrenheit
22:00 HighMan .c -32f to c
22:00 BotSteve -35.5555556 degrees Celsius
22:01 Istas HighMan, you can do that in your head you know. It's pretty easy.
22:01 Istas My favorite temperature is -40.
22:01 HighMan Mine is 0c
22:01 HighMan Also, the formula is like 5/9 +32?
22:01 HighMan For f to c
22:02 Istas F to C is -32, then 5/9.
22:02 HighMan .c 5/9
22:02 BotSteve 0.555555556
22:02 HighMan Your half it and subtract 32
22:02 HighMan Well, subtract then half
22:03 Istas You subtract 32 first.
22:03 HighMan Yah...
22:04 BitViper wannabe1987 : just saying hi :) *runs for cover*
22:04 wannabe1987 right....
22:04 wannabe1987 .seen lwq1996
22:04 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw lwq1996 0.40 hours ago at 2012-02-23 21:40:26 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 22:04:39 UTC
22:04 wannabe1987 hi BitViper!
22:05 Istas There are some easy temps to remember. 0C is freezing. 10C is 50F.  20C is 68F. 30C is 86F.  37C is average human body temperature, 98.6F.
22:05 wannabe1987 i've taken to calling you "brian" irl so my parents don't think i'm weird for calling people by their internet names :D
22:05 Istas But -40 is still my favorite.
22:05 HighMan Istas, My favorite is 0c. It's the only thing I remember and hence why I like it
22:05 * BitViper hides behind HighMan before wannabe1987 decides to return the favor
22:05 Istas HighMan: remember -40 too. That's even easier.
22:05 * wannabe1987 doesn't go anywhere near HighMan
22:05 HighMan Istas, What's that?
22:06 wannabe1987 woooo i'm feelin rich!
22:06 Istas Figure it out. Yourself, don't use the bot. :)
22:06 * HighMan doesn't want to go anywhere near wannabe1987 either.
22:06 HighMan Istas, :P Let see
22:06 BitViper wannabe1987 who's rich, and does he enjoy being felt up ?
22:06 HighMan Istas, 40-32
22:06 wannabe1987 lololol
22:06 wannabe1987 my bank act
22:06 wannabe1987 acct*
22:06 HighMan Istas, 4 wow.
22:06 wannabe1987 and maybe
22:06 HighMan Wait... I fail one second
22:06 Istas Nevermind. If you're not paying attention then neither will I.
22:06 wannabe1987 ah got new glasses today
22:06 HighMan c to f.
22:06 HighMan Ok.
22:07 wannabe1987 now they're giving me a head ache :/
22:07 HighMan ((40+32)*9)/5
22:07 Istas I said -40, HighMan.
22:07 HighMan I'm thinking.
22:08 astro73|alice wannabe-afk: when's your account?
22:08 HighMan 8*9=72 72/5
22:08 wannabe1987 what?
22:08 HighMan AH!
22:08 Istas I don't think you are. You never add 32 first.
22:08 astro73|alice ..
22:08 wannabe1987 whens what?
22:08 wannabe1987 i'm so confused
22:08 astro73|alice wannabe-afk: when's your concert?
22:08 wannabe1987 and i'm not afk
22:08 wannabe1987 ahhhh
22:08 wannabe1987 the one i was going to friday?  but am not anymore cuz i'm working?
22:08 Istas HighMan, please PM me if you want to continue talking to me about that, I don't want to clutter the channel.
22:08 HighMan Istas, .... Derp. So c to f is -32 then half....
22:08 astro73|alice oh, ok
22:13 HighMan Hi masterofmonks
22:13 masterofmonks Hy HighMan
22:13 HighMan :P
22:15 HighMan masterofmonks! I made my menu bar dissapear!
22:15 HighMan .c -40c to f
22:15 BotSteve -40 degrees Fahrenheit
22:15 BitViper c * 9 / 5 + 32 = f
22:16 BitViper (f - 32) / 5 * 9 = c
22:16 HighMan Someone help me! I failed and shut off menu bar on xchat
22:16 BitViper hrm wait that 2nd isnt right
22:17 BitViper f = c * 9 / 5 + 32 ... that one is right
22:17 Istas ((f - 32) / 9) * 5 = c
22:17 BitViper c = (f - 32) * 5 / 9
22:18 BitViper yeah
22:19 HighMan I got it...
22:21 Electricguy bedtime! :) night night
22:23 wannabe1987 night Electricguy
22:25 * HighMan Wonders the joy and applications of Algebra.
22:25 masterofmonks HighMan, Algebra is to math, what the alphabet is to language.
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22:29 wannabe1987 Druidic_Rifleman!
22:29 wannabe1987 hi
22:30 masterofmonks wannabe1987, bacon jerky.
22:30 wannabe1987 hmmmmm
22:31 Roadran422 joined #thegeekgroup
22:31 Roadran422 Whoops
22:34 wannabe1987 PUPPY!!!!!
22:35 wannabe1987 http://photos.petfinder.com/photos/US/NJ/NJ592/22244503/NJ592.22244503-1-pn.jpg   see?
22:35 wannabe1987 isn't he cute :D
22:36 masterofmonks Dear lord it looks like Roadran422
22:36 Istas Cute scruggly puppy.
22:36 masterofmonks That poor puppy.
22:36 wannabe1987 its a labrador/poodle
22:36 Roadran422 Oh thanks.
22:36 wannabe1987 why poor puppy?
22:36 Roadran422 masterofmonks, Haha so funny :P
22:37 masterofmonks wannabe1987, because it looks like Roadran422
22:37 wannabe1987 ...
22:37 Roadran422 Haha so funny. Picking on the newb :P
22:37 wannabe1987 THE DOG IS NOT AZN
22:37 masterofmonks AZN?
22:37 wannabe1987 asain
22:37 wannabe1987 asian*?
22:38 masterofmonks Second.
22:38 wannabe1987 right
22:38 wannabe1987 its short hand. cuz if you say it "right" (the azn) it sounds like asian
22:38 masterofmonks I say is "A" "Z" "N"
22:39 Roadran422 and I say. You Are Mean And Pick On Noobs.
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22:40 * wannabe1987 needs more sleep. she's slap happy at 5:40 at night o.o
22:40 wannabe1987 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420725_298666510199428_268330443233035_821546_1433908595_n.jpg  see?
22:40 wannabe1987 this is funny to me
22:41 masterofmonks Yep, you need sleep.
22:41 wannabe1987 .seen toastdude
22:41 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Toastdude 16.63 hours ago at 2012-02-23 06:04:09 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 22:41:47 UTC
22:43 Roadran422 .define isomer
22:43 BotSteve isomer — noun: 1. (chemistry) Any of two or more compounds with the same molecular formula but with different structure, 2. (physics) Any of two or more atomic nuclei with the same mass number and atomic number but with different radioactive properties
22:52 Roadran422 thanks BotSteve
22:52 BotSteve You're welcome, Roadran422
22:55 Druidic_Rifleman wannabe i am in
22:55 wannabe1987 "dinner is served, bitches"
22:55 wannabe1987 in?
22:55 Druidic_Rifleman you birthday plans
22:55 Druidic_Rifleman lets make car salesmen fight to the death
22:55 wannabe1987 i don't know what they are yet....but there'll be something....
22:55 wannabe1987 lolol
22:55 wannabe1987 ok
22:56 wannabe1987 need to get foam swords tho
22:57 wannabe1987 i'm hungry
22:58 BitViper car salesmen : i think get identical cars from dealers that allow you to test drive unescorted, then return then swap cars and return them to different dealers
23:00 Sgt_Lemming mmmm, coofffeee
23:00 BotSteve sgt_lemming: I have the following messages for you:
23:00 BotSteve At 12:46Z, yNos asked me to tell sgt_lemming BEWBS!! actually, that is a badass video. all the visuals in it are pretty trick.
23:00 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell yNos yeah, about 3 seconds after I posted it I realised I should put an NSFW warning on it :-D
23:00 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when yNos is around.
23:01 Istas *chuckles*
23:01 Sgt_Lemming So... I just checked the hackerspace bank account, pleasantly surprised to say the least :-D
23:02 Sgt_Lemming oh, and the video in question http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-yj1M6Bly0 slightly nsfw as there is a semi naked chick in it
23:02 BotSteve Title: Noisia - Split the atom HD - YouTube
23:03 Druidic_Rifleman I'll bring mine and if BA aproves it i'll make some for you
23:03 wannabe1987 Sgt_Lemming: link to article?
23:03 Druidic_Rifleman Also i wanna produce the 1812 overature on tgg machines
23:03 Sgt_Lemming ...?
23:04 Druidic_Rifleman I made foam weapons for larping
23:04 Sgt_Lemming oh the essay I was working on
23:04 wannabe1987 BitViper: that sounds like more fun....
23:05 tonsofpcs hi
23:05 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: s/larping/running around the house with and larping/ :)
23:06 Druidic_Rifleman actually it was running through a scout camp in a blood red tiger make up and some how Being semi invisable
23:06 * BitViper sneezes
23:06 * BitViper re-sneezes
23:06 wannabe1987 bless you
23:07 * BitViper implodes
23:07 wannabe1987 yes Sgt_Lemming
23:07 Sgt_Lemming gimme a little bit wannabe1987, uploading and anonymising it a bit
23:10 wannabe1987 ok
23:15 * Druidic_Rifleman euthanises bitviper with a .22lr
23:15 Druidic_Rifleman there no more pain
23:17 Roadran422 .pills
23:17 Roadran422 .element
23:17 BotSteve Here you go, Roadran422, I'm giving you 472 syringes of pure Osmium !
23:18 Roadran422 Hehehe
23:18 astro73|alice hey! I made myself a chrome extension repository
23:18 Roadran422 Congrats
23:20 wannabe1987 hi astro73|alice
23:23 astro73|alice hi wannabe
23:25 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, can you pm me an email address please
23:25 wannabe1987 .in 40min laundry
23:25 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 00:05Z
23:25 Sgt_Lemming .in 35min laundry
23:25 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: Okay, will remind at 00:00Z
23:25 wannabe1987 lol
23:26 Roadran422 Sgt_Lemming, ? You forgot your email?
23:26 Sgt_Lemming Roadran422, her email, not mine
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23:27 Sgt_Lemming sharing something with her via google docs
23:27 Roadran422 Sgt_Lemming, Ah ok xD
23:28 Sgt_Lemming also, you made it into one of the latest TGG videos for about 1/10th of a second Roadran422 :-P
23:29 tonsofpcs how'd that happen?
23:29 Roadran422 Sgt_Lemming, Ik :P
23:29 Roadran422 I saw that hass thing
23:29 Sgt_Lemming screenshot of IRC tonsofpcs :-P
23:29 Roadran422 And I have been mentioned on the CB before lol
23:31 wannabe1987 i made it in there for a second too :P
23:31 wannabe1987 also, rec'd, started to read :
23:31 wannabe1987 :D*
23:32 * wannabe1987 hates passive agressive drivers
23:32 tehdark45 joined #thegeekgroup
23:32 wannabe1987 like that one!  ^^
23:32 * Istas dislikes passive aggressiveness in general.
23:33 wannabe1987 well, yes
23:33 tehdark45 it is a wannabe1987 Istas :P
23:34 Istas What about wah-NAH-bae?
23:35 wannabe1987 that works as well
23:36 * tonsofpcs hasn't watched the blog ina  week or so
23:37 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, should catch up
23:38 * Roadran422 fiding the damn captain's blog
23:38 tonsofpcs why?
23:38 tonsofpcs did they finally finish what I started last July?
23:39 tehdark45 Roadran422 is dumb and didn't know I am in Canada
23:39 wannabe1987 lol
23:40 tehdark45 loz
23:41 Roadran422 :P
23:41 wannabe1987 tehdark45: tell him he's a hack and to get off the internet :P
23:42 Roadran422 Sgt_Lemming, Ah, ok that explains why. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=Gtkib3VR9YA#t=1142s
23:42 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog 12-16-11 Ammonia Paint Experiment and The Amy War - YouTube
23:42 Roadran422 wannabe1987, You are hack.
23:42 Sgt_Lemming eh?
23:42 tehdark45 BotSteve, tell Roadran422 you are a hack, get off the internet
23:42 BotSteve tehdark45: I'll pass that on when roadran422 is around.
23:42 masterofmonks .hack//sign
23:42 tehdark45 thanks BotSteve
23:42 BotSteve No problem, tehdark45
23:42 Roadran422 lol
23:42 BotSteve roadran422: I have the following messages for you:
23:43 BotSteve At 23:42Z, tehdark45 asked me to tell roadran422 you are a hack, get off the internet
23:43 astro73|alice hehe
23:43 tehdark45 Seroster, this is where you kick Roadran422 ;)
23:43 Roadran422 :P
23:43 BitViper grrrr, i think there needs to be some additional controls on use of the bot, also more strict nsfw control
23:43 astro73|alice i've heavily modified an extension, made a update repo for it, and got it hooked up so whenever I commit to git, the extension is updated
23:43 masterofmonks BitViper, You mean contorl in :nsfw?
23:44 masterofmonks control
23:44 masterofmonks *
23:44 astro73|alice i think he means tehdark vs roadran
23:44 BitViper masterofmonks : maybe that too, but no refering to control of content in here
23:44 wannabe1987 congrats, astro
23:44 masterofmonks BitViper, there are two channel rules.
23:44 astro73|alice BitViper: it's all open source. feel free to change them
23:44 Seroster Eh, BitViper?
23:44 masterofmonks Channel Rules:  Respect each other.  Have fun.
23:45 astro73|alice wannabe1987: thanks
23:45 wannabe1987 np
23:45 tehdark45 We are having fun. We are not fighting you know right?
23:45 Seroster BitViper, Got input on the nsfw channel? I'm all ears mate =)
23:45 wannabe1987 you might be having fun.....but the rest of us?
23:46 masterofmonks tehdark45, Remember your right to swing your fist, ends where the other man's face begins.
23:46 Seroster Trying to catch up to wtf is going on here =P
23:46 tehdark45 Seroster, good luck =P
23:47 masterofmonks However, that also means that other people are prefectly free to use /ignore on you.
23:47 Seroster Ah, tehdark45 is abusing the bot?
23:47 BitViper Seroster : meant there's crap in here that shouldnt be, and while ppl usually get said something to, i think it needs to get elevated a bit more, ref chris' commments regarding irc. this needs to be more G not PG imo
23:48 masterofmonks BitViper, When Chirs behaves here, we will listen to his opinion.
23:48 BitViper i know thats asking a lot of irc, but ..
23:48 tehdark45 no
23:48 masterofmonks Chris*
23:48 Seroster I'd like to see that comment, and sadly I am not very well versed with the american ratings. What is the difference between G and PG?
23:49 tehdark45 G is kids
23:49 tehdark45 PG is teens
23:49 masterofmonks Seroster, Who you give money to.
23:49 BitViper g = general audiance, kids ok ... pg = parental guidance suggested
23:49 Seroster Right
23:49 tehdark45 TGG = R
23:49 tehdark45 lol
23:49 masterofmonks Technically we attempt to keep it pg-13.
23:49 BitViper lol, na, but this channel seems to be def pg if not pg-13
23:49 Seroster BitViper, Examples of what goes on here that shouldnt go on in here?
23:50 * wannabe1987 uses crockpot and WINS!
23:50 BitViper wannabe1987 : the crockpot lost ?
23:50 Seroster Thing is chris mentioned in the NYE video, we are people, people cuss, you can't sugarcoat reality
23:50 astro73|alice I have a hard time calling TGG a G rating, if only because they're sponsored by a fake cigerette company
23:50 * epictang0 awakens
23:50 Seroster lol astro73|a
23:51 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I made it in and I was RED!
23:51 Sgt_Lemming lol
23:51 BitViper just to be clear, im not saying ** I ** object to things, but seems to be if chris doesnt like it, then we should consider such
23:51 wannabe1987 no, it didn't lost.
23:51 wannabe1987 lose*
23:51 epictang0 if you want to control the chat TGG should make it's own IRC server...
23:51 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: I saw IRC flash up and thought 'hmm, wonder if I'm in that' so I went back and looked :D
23:51 Monkeh epictang0: Uh, how will that help?
23:51 masterofmonks BitViper, the times Chris has been here, he has not behaved himself.
23:51 epictang0 a public IRC server is just that...
23:52 epictang0 the public can say whatever they want...
23:52 Monkeh epictang0: ... Yes, and if it's not public then there's no point.
23:52 Monkeh epictang0: ...
23:52 epictang0 exactly my point
23:52 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, I had the exact same reaction
23:52 Seroster BitViper, Chris had some nasty habits of booting people out for no particular reason
23:52 BitViper masterofmonks : heh ive only seen chris here once, for a few seconds, so, if thats the case, then why does he whine about the quality of the channel =/
23:52 Monkeh epictang0: You don't quite get the idea of IRC.
23:52 masterofmonks BitViper, I could speculate...
23:52 wannabe1987 what happens if you put white wine in white chicken chili?
23:52 BitViper wannabe1987 : the chicken gets drunk ?
23:52 masterofmonks wannabe1987, Dunno, but it's probably pretty good.
23:52 Seroster That we wonder too, BitViper. If you could get him to sit down and have a chat with us ops we could probably work something out
23:53 epictang0 Monkeh: be careful...i have been on irc far longer than you most likely
23:53 tehdark45 Seroster, i remeber that youtube comment he left you, about your "strikes" lol
23:53 wannabe1987 will do then :D
23:53 Seroster tehdark45, Yes. He kind of hates me.
23:53 Monkeh epictang0: Right.
23:53 Sgt_Lemming epictang0, be careful about assuming how long someone has been on IRC
23:53 Sgt_Lemming because you have NO FREAKING IDEA
23:53 Seroster Calm down peeps.
23:53 Sgt_Lemming the servers are public, the channels are not
23:53 BitViper heh i bet i have most of ya beat re time on irc, not that i care
23:54 Sgt_Lemming how old are you BitViper?
23:54 Seroster tehdark45, I have a lot of theories as to why chris doesn't like me. But to be honest, I don't know. I'd like to find out thou.
23:54 BitViper Sgt_Lemming : 41
23:54 * wannabe1987 poured white wine (pinot gringo) and chix broth in teh food
23:54 Sgt_Lemming heh
23:54 astro73|alice chris sometimes just doesn't like people
23:54 Monkeh BitViper: Well, my account's older than yours, and epictang0 doesn't even have one.. :P
23:54 astro73|alice he went through a thing about wannabe1987 at one point
23:54 masterofmonks wannabe1987, I like Pinot Grigio.
23:55 BitViper Monkeh : im relatively new to freenode, but not irc
23:55 Seroster BitViper, If you think there is stuff going on in this channel that you think is inappropriate, don't hesitate to shoot one of us ops a pm and we can sort it out with ya
23:55 wannabe1987 god boden hated me for a bit
23:55 masterofmonks Or join us in :administration
23:55 wannabe1987 he banned me for no reason
23:55 Seroster On the topic of our glorious captain misbehaving, eh? ;)
23:56 tehdark45 lol
23:57 * wannabe1987 waits for her food
23:57 Seroster <BitViper> Seroster : meant there's crap in here that shouldnt be, <<< Is there something in particular that you reacted to, or is it just in general?

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