Camelia, the Perl 6 bug

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-02-24

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00:00 BitViper Seroster : mostly in general, semi-random thought amongst my multitasking
00:00 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: laundry
00:00 Sgt_Lemming thank you BotSteve
00:00 BotSteve You're welcome, Sgt_Lemming
00:00 Seroster Thing with pointing out general problems is that they are notoriously hard to take care of =P
00:01 BitViper Seroster : yeah, generals are always hard to deal with. >.<
00:01 wannabe1987 thats why you go to the major!
00:01 wannabe1987 joke fail
00:02 Seroster Generally speaking, BitViper, this is one of the cleanest channels on this net
00:02 BitViper Seroster : that doesnt take much
00:02 Seroster True
00:02 tehdark45 Yeah no
00:03 tehdark45 #chris on irc.geekshed.net is way more controled
00:03 tehdark45 lol
00:03 Seroster Generally speaking, BitViper, this is one of the cleanest channels on this net
00:04 Roadran422 masterofmonks, Compared to the irony channel
00:04 Roadran422 sorry mom
00:05 BotSteve wannabe1987: laundry
00:05 wannabe1987 thx bot
00:05 tehdark45 wannabe1987, copying lemming?
00:05 tehdark45 :P
00:05 wannabe1987 no.  he copied me...
00:05 tehdark45 but he finished first
00:06 * masterofmonks refrains from comment.
00:06 * Seroster giggles
00:06 tehdark45 lol
00:07 wannabe1987 because he set his for 35 min, mine was 40 min
00:07 masterofmonks BitViper, Also it could be argued that children should not be allowed on the internet without parental guidence, making the default of any medium at least PG
00:07 tehdark45 wannabe1987, it is because he uses 230V, you only have 120 :P
00:08 Sgt_Lemming yeah, it's the same as allowing kids unrestricted access to movies and TV
00:08 Sgt_Lemming no parent in their right mind would, so why would you allow them unrestricted access to the internet?
00:08 epictang0 masterofmonks: technically to comply with COPPA it would be PG-13
00:08 masterofmonks epictang0, Yes.
00:08 masterofmonks Which is the attempted rating of this channel.
00:09 Seroster I'd argue that this place is one of the tamer places you can end up in while surfing.
00:09 masterofmonks And generally we stay in that range.
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00:11 ^Prophet^ long time no see all
00:11 wannabe1987 hi!
00:11 ^Prophet^ herro :3
00:12 tehdark45 hi ^Prophet^
00:12 Druidic_Rifleman egrsteve?
00:12 ^Prophet^ nosir
00:13 tehdark45 welcome back to IRC
00:13 HighMan|Eating ...
00:13 HighMan|Eating HI ^Prophet^ HOW'S THAT WII of yours?
00:13 Seroster shower time
00:13 ^Prophet^ shitty
00:14 ^Prophet^ and i have givim up on it
00:14 ^Prophet^ lol
00:14 HighMan|Eating Send it to me ;)
00:14 ^Prophet^ the Gcube still works though
00:14 tehdark45 Seroster, peanut butter jelly time
00:14 * HighMan|Eating Pisses PB
00:14 HighMan|Eating Adios br
00:14 HighMan|Eating b
00:14 masterofmonks The bad part is that I can pick up game cubes for like $5 now.
00:14 ^Prophet^ also did you guys know that the gameboy game Metroid Fusion is worth 140$
00:15 masterofmonks What about Link's Awakening?
00:16 ^Prophet^ idk
00:16 ^Prophet^ but i need a copy of Metroid prime 2 for the gcube if anyone is willing to part with it
00:17 NeWtoz man, Super Metroid was my favorite game back in the day
00:17 ^Prophet^ im doing a lets play of that :D
00:22 BitViper bah. i love consumer packaging : "Resealable package. To open, tear here." RRRRIIIIIPPPPPP. Fsck! So much for resealable.
00:22 BitViper this is why they make ziplock
00:22 tehdark45 lol
00:23 BitViper its a conspiracy
00:23 lwq1996 hi
00:24 tehdark45 it is the lee
00:24 tehdark45 hi lwq1996
00:24 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
00:24 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 0.04 hours ago at 2012-02-24 00:22:35 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 00:24:49 UTC
00:25 wannabe1987 what?
00:25 wannabe1987 hi
00:25 lwq1996 hi
00:26 ^Prophet^ beastbeastbeast
00:26 BitViper *sneeze*
00:26 tehdark45 so what have you been doing ^Prophet^
00:27 wannabe1987 again, BitViper?  bless you
00:28 ^Prophet^ oh im bout to eat ill brb
00:29 Seroster ah
00:29 tehdark45 BitViper, *chris grama voice* you're gunna die
00:29 tehdark45 :P
00:29 tehdark45 grandpa*
00:29 BitViper tehdark45 : considering that my sneezes are rated in megatonage
00:30 tehdark45 lol
00:32 NeWtoz I know the feeling
00:32 Monkeh electricguy_: I have heard that the UT804 is a POS.
00:32 NeWtoz I sneezes burn my lunges
00:32 NeWtoz my, not I
00:33 * BitViper is about to nom buffalo nuggets
00:34 Monkeh BitViper: Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo and you get the idea.
00:35 * lwq1996 touches masterofmonks spatula and waits for his spatula senses to kick in
00:35 Druidic_Rifleman Should try duffs wings if you get a chance
00:35 HighMan|Eating back
00:35 * masterofmonks commands to spatula to life to swat lwq1996 on the hand.
00:35 Druidic_Rifleman I whent to the one intoronto once in a white shirt and walked out with out a stain
00:36 HighMan Druidic_Rifleman, Did it light up with uv?
00:36 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
00:36 Druidic_Rifleman I is that ninja
00:36 HighMan If so, there are 3 things.... Bleach. or Semen.
00:36 HighMan *2
00:37 HighMan I'd worry...
00:37 tehdark45 HighMan, you are a worry
00:37 tehdark45 :P
00:37 HighMan :P
00:37 HighMan If it's semen I'D DEFF worry. If it was bleach.. ehh
00:38 HighMan Druidic_Rifleman, Taste it ;)
00:38 Druidic_Rifleman HighMan thank you for proving to immature to be on irc
00:38 HighMan I asked a mature question.
00:38 HighMan If it lit up.
00:39 masterofmonks HighMan, Contrary to CSI...
00:39 masterofmonks Those are not the only things that light up under UV
00:39 epictang0 could also be fabric softner
00:39 masterofmonks As Or laundry detergent.
00:40 HighMan True
00:40 tehdark45 or Drugs
00:40 HighMan Semen and Bleach are the only things i remembered. Also blood
00:41 * HighMan CSI
00:41 epictang0 blood doesnt glow unless treated with luminol
00:41 masterofmonks HighMan, CSI is almost completely complete BS
00:41 HighMan masterofmonks, xD I like watching it
00:42 tehdark45 masterofmonks, no, they really kill those actors :P
00:42 HighMan XD
00:42 masterofmonks If you want fantasy read Piers Anthony or something like that.
00:42 masterofmonks If you want Science Fictino read Larry Niven.
00:42 Sgt_Lemming yay, they updated the description on the pedals that was wrong!
00:42 Sgt_Lemming http://www.crankbrothers.com/pedals_mallet2.php
00:43 BotSteve Title: ++ mallet2 pedals :: crankbrothers.com ++
00:43 masterofmonks But for the love of bob, don't do science fantasy.
00:43 HighMan Pseudoscience
00:43 Sgt_Lemming got an offer to replace them with an all alloy version if they do make a new one as well which is pretty cool of them.
00:43 Seroster There is this atm in the tiny town where my grandparents live, and every damn time I go past it there is a car next to it with the driver withdrawing cash. The car often with its door open and the engine running... I just want to hop in there and drive it into the river to teach the driver a lesson =P
00:44 Sgt_Lemming rofl
00:44 Druidic_Rifleman OK any one know of a gunsmithing Program in michigan???
00:45 masterofmonks .g gunsmitthing school michigan
00:45 BotSteve masterofmonks: http://www.huntingsociety.org/gpsmiths.html
00:48 lwq1996 hmmm i wonder if there's any hhr tonight :/
00:49 masterofmonks hhr?
00:50 lwq1996 horseshoes and hand grenades radio
00:50 lwq1996 bills stickam
00:51 BitViper meh, stickam, i havent used any of my 3 accounts in a long time
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00:58 ajprog_laptop lwq1996: I don't think so
00:58 lwq1996 awe damn :/ i even set a reminder for it
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00:59 ajprog_laptop Lisa is working this week
00:59 lwq1996 i PacketHumper
00:59 lwq1996 ah
00:59 PacketHumper howdy
00:59 Seroster I wonder how many reminders botsteve has for idiotic timespans like 250years =P
00:59 lwq1996 lol
01:00 PacketHumper i need to find a way to donate processor time for video rendering.
01:00 PacketHumper tgg needs to setup something for distributed rendering farms.
01:00 Seroster I think the easiest way is to donate the processor itself
01:00 PacketHumper i wish.
01:00 tonsofpcs PacketHumper: diverse video rendering over anything slower than a few gigabit is pretty useless
01:01 tonsofpcs it takes more processor time to handle the handoff of content and splitting than the actual render
01:01 PacketHumper i have a backup server farm here at home that sits mostly idle unless crap hits the fan.
01:01 Seroster How much power?
01:01 tonsofpcs backup server farm?
01:01 astro73|alice but how long does it take to transfer all the raw video?
01:01 tonsofpcs and where is it physically located?
01:02 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: you don't transfer it all, only the needed parts.
01:02 PacketHumper 4 dell r510s, 2 r410s, 3 mac pros, and a smathering of core i7's.
01:02 PacketHumper near chicago.
01:02 PacketHumper too far for them to drop a hard drive off.
01:02 epictang0 i have 2 spare racks of Sun x4150s...I am also on 100Mbit uplink
01:02 Seroster Maybe if you relocate the server farm to the leonard street lab itself, and let them hum in the basement, working with rendering 95% of the time and dealing with fanhitting shit the other five?
01:02 tonsofpcs PacketHumper: it could be useful for 3d rendering.
01:02 ^Prophet^ and im back
01:03 PacketHumper several of them have cards caple of cuda processing as well.
01:03 tonsofpcs 3d rendering is easy to split up, low bandwidth, the result requires higher bandwidth but it isn't as bad as shipping video back and forth
01:03 * BitViper raids epictang0's server farm
01:03 astro73|mal right up until you get to epic-level 3D
01:03 epictang0 BitViper: nice try...gotta get past me first
01:04 JA12 renderfarm.fi
01:04 tonsofpcs epictang0: he was just setting up ant traps....
01:04 PacketHumper yah was looking into that.  part of boinc.
01:04 PacketHumper it's wasted processing time used mostly for game servers and minecraft. lol
01:05 epictang0 tonsofpcs: we have people for that...with security clearances and everything...lol
01:05 * BitViper sooooo wants to set up a [beowulf] cluster, preferably my own, but would be happy setting one up for the lab. just want to learn about them
01:05 epictang0 BitViper: the tech is way outdated, there are better ways of doing it ala hadoop
01:05 tonsofpcs epictang0: next time you upgrade, you can donate your old cluster
01:06 tonsofpcs BitViper: beowulf cluster of AS/400 imo.
01:06 BitViper PacketHumper : you willing to donate server resources for a private minecrap server (mine) ?? the hardware mine is on now will handle perhaps 4 players that arent doing much w/o croaking
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01:06 BitViper tonsofpcs : i'd love to take the 400's at the lab and cluster them
01:06 Seroster Would the rendering speed of a thousand pentium2s be more than the time it takes to distribute to them via a LAN?
01:07 PacketHumper there is an r510 dedicated to minecraft at the moment.  pretty well loaded box. lol
01:07 tonsofpcs Seroster: it would be cheaper to buy a thousand pentium4s than to power a thousand pentium2s for a month.
01:07 PacketHumper anyone is welcome to join, you just have to let me know so i can give you build privs.
01:07 epictang0 tonsofpcs: you wouldent want these, per contract they would not have memory, harddrive or processor
01:07 JA12 or 2 video cards =)
01:07 tonsofpcs epictang0: what hardware?
01:07 BitViper PacketHumper : mine's on something thats 32 bit hardware with 2g ram
01:08 Seroster tonsofpcs, But... But... What am I going to do with my huge collection of P2s?=P
01:08 PacketHumper lol dual quad core xeons with 48gb of ram.
01:08 * BitViper looks at PacketHumper O_O
01:08 Istas 8|
01:08 tonsofpcs Seroster: take them out and put them on the shelf, pretend that they're some technology worth talking about
01:08 epictang0 tonsofpcs: Sun x4150: http://www.essiprojects.com/documents/Doc​sTecnics/SUN/Sun_Fire_X4150.Datasheet.pdf
01:08 PacketHumper tonsofpcs: lol very true
01:08 Seroster tonsofpcs, Paint them red? =D
01:08 BitViper PacketHumper : whats your server addr, pm if you want
01:08 tonsofpcs epictang0: aww :( so much more useful with the processor in them.
01:08 PacketHumper minecraft.nerderosity.com
01:09 PacketHumper hang on i'll jump in.  give me a minute to deal with the horse.  he just ate a slice of pizza.
01:09 Seroster Do you still have to pay for minecraf?
01:09 BitViper PacketHumper : oh snap
01:09 epictang0 tonsofpcs: i know it, however per the latest NSA sanitization guidelines, they can store the AES keys on the processor (which makes them screaming fast for crypto) so they have to be dumped
01:10 BitViper Seroster : yes, unless you know someone willing to run an 'offline' server, (can still be online, public, just doesnt check creds), and yes, thats totally legit
01:10 BitViper or you can just run your own, or play single player
01:10 tonsofpcs epictang0: can't you run a DOD wipe of the processor storage? (I'm not even sure that 'store on a processor' makes sense)
01:10 Seroster Right...
01:10 BitViper you only have to play if you want to play on normal public mutliplayer servers
01:10 tonsofpcs alternatively, can you just keep running them and I'll give you the code to run?
01:11 BitViper *only have to P
01:11 BitViper *PAY
01:11 Monkeh masterofmonks: Sorry, was trying to follow traces on a PCB.
01:11 * BitViper smashes keyboard
01:11 Seroster I think I'll refrain from trying it out, since becoming addicted to something as worthless as a game isn't something I need to devote my time to
01:11 Monkeh masterofmonks: In an assortment of odd pictures, because China Post is slow.
01:11 epictang0 tonsofpcs: negative...the key is stored in the cpu register ala tresor...
01:12 epictang0 tonsofpcs: not my rules
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01:12 tonsofpcs erm... isn't AES a paired key system?
01:12 tonsofpcs what's it matter if I get the public half?
01:13 epictang0 tonsofpcs: it doesnt store the public half...
01:13 tonsofpcs *facepalm(
01:13 tonsofpcs *
01:13 tonsofpcs (1) whose brilliant idea was this?  (2) can't they just revoke that key?
01:13 tonsofpcs (yes, I know the answer to #2, but it has to be asked after #1)
01:14 tonsofpcs (because that's what the answer to #1 thought)
01:14 epictang0 because then I would have to rekey everything...lol
01:14 epictang0 and my private key doesnt expire for another 3 years
01:14 epictang0 it is a big pain in the ass
01:14 tonsofpcs ok, so in 3 years I can have the processors too?
01:14 epictang0 hah
01:14 epictang0 these will be decommissioned far before then
01:15 tonsofpcs i mean, it's less work for you to store them rather than remove the CPUs
01:15 tonsofpcs right, I want them after decommissioning...
01:15 epictang0 and decommissioning involves removing anything that can retain data
01:16 tonsofpcs I'm going back with (1).
01:16 epictang0 and seeing personally that it is destroyed
01:16 tonsofpcs ok, alternate suggestion:
01:16 tonsofpcs I have equipment in my racks owned by a number of different federal agencies, what's one more?
01:16 epictang0 listen, i dont make the rules...i just follow them because 1. they sign my checks and 2. i am not to question these things
01:17 tonsofpcs the FEMA devices have the best story behind them.
01:17 ajprog_laptop they have 5 AS/400s at the lab
01:17 epictang0 lol
01:17 epictang0 that would make a powerful accounting system
01:17 tonsofpcs epictang0: a beowulf AS/400!
01:18 tonsofpcs can the AS/400 run HP/UX?
01:18 epictang0 AS/400 can run linux
01:18 tonsofpcs *gives jeff something to ponder/do*
01:18 tonsofpcs epictang0: right, but it'd be more hilarious to have an AS/400 running HP/UX
01:18 epictang0 but hp/ux is well..icky
01:18 epictang0 and a finicky bitch
01:19 epictang0 and insecure as shit
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01:19 HighMan masterofmonks, How do you steal a house? (New csi lvpd)
01:19 tonsofpcs did we mention that it's an AS/400?
01:19 tonsofpcs HighMan: carefully.
01:19 HighMan xD
01:20 masterofmonks HighMan, With a big truck?
01:20 epictang0 HighMan: illegal deed transfer?
01:20 tonsofpcs alternatively, you follow the Jeep method:  Piece by piece.
01:20 HighMan I don't know. But it's just odd lol
01:20 tonsofpcs epictang0: eh, you could even have a quasilegal deed transfer.  *points to banks*
01:21 tonsofpcs I mean, you could commit fraud to get a perfectly legal deed transfer....
01:21 tonsofpcs the fraud probably means you're screwed though.
01:21 epictang0 this is true...however look at the pickle they are in with the robosigned forms and the like
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01:27 tonsofpcs robosigned forms?
01:27 tonsofpcs sorry, I deal with the FCC more often than real life :-p
01:28 epictang0 yeah, where the banks hired a crapload of employees to sign forclosure forms...
01:28 tonsofpcs oh
01:33 BitViper tonsofpcs / epictang0 : ive already queried about beowulfing the 400's, the problem is they only have one terminal for them. we're looking into getting some networking stuff for them
01:34 BitViper twinax, thats the stuff, had to go look it up
01:35 epictang0 BitViper: good luck with that. it probably isnt worth your time and you could probably do better with a couple of P4 boxen
01:35 tonsofpcs BitViper: aren't they just VT100 terminals?
01:35 BitViper i was thinking use an arduino as a sort of kvm :)
01:35 tonsofpcs epictang0: s/a couple of P4/a single P2/
01:36 tonsofpcs BitViper: erm... they make A/B/C/D switches with 9 pins and 25 pins....
01:36 epictang0 tonsofpcs: it is probably a 5250 terminal
01:36 BitViper yes, 5250
01:37 epictang0 do they even still develop beowulf as a platform?
01:37 epictang0 i havent heard anything of it since like 2001
01:38 tonsofpcs epictang0: we could choose a different mythic character if you want
01:38 Seroster Goodnight folks
01:38 tonsofpcs g'nite
01:38 tonsofpcs we could make a seroster cluster!
01:39 BitViper egads, a cluster of serosters ??
01:39 tonsofpcs BitViper: you'd have full control
01:39 BitViper hrm *evil grin*
01:41 epictang0 just turn 100 micro aws instances into a cluster...for science
01:41 epictang0 you will be happier in the long run
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01:41 epictang0 the geeks in their noc would probably do a grant for it
01:41 BitViper epictang0 : if i had a machien with the spare memory i would just use virtuals, but i dont have a machine with spare memory
01:42 epictang0 they like shit like that
01:42 tonsofpcs whose noc?
01:42 epictang0 amazon
01:42 tonsofpcs NTIA isn't issuing grants anymore :(
01:43 epictang0 who said anything about an NTIA grant? Amazon will grant compute time on their boxen for projects
01:44 tonsofpcs I need free AWS time....
01:44 epictang0 aws is free...kinda
01:45 epictang0 hell a micro instance will only cost you ~$6/mo if you do a spot instance
01:45 epictang0 .006 an hour
01:45 epictang0 ish
01:45 epictang0 it changes
01:45 epictang0 just set it to something like .10 and it never cancels
01:48 epictang0 Micro Linux/UNIX Spot Instance (t1.micro) instance-hour in Spot Zone #1  543 Hrs  3.26
01:49 epictang0 for that instance this month thus far
01:49 tonsofpcs I have no clue what that means.
01:50 tonsofpcs I deal with real things.  Photons, electrons, electromagnetic waves, etc.  This invisible cloud thing is too complex :-p
01:52 epictang0 lol...I deal with clouds and packets...
01:52 epictang0 lots and lots of packets
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01:52 tonsofpcs packets are just an abstraction of electrons ;)
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02:00 Sgt_Lemming wannabe1987, you still around?
02:00 Sgt_Lemming also BitViper
02:00 PacketHumper bit is around, he's playing minecraft with me. lol
02:02 Istas Sgt_Lemming, do you play a musical instrument?
02:02 Istas Actually, nevermind. This was the start of a convoluted pun which I no longer find funny.
02:04 BitViper no im not around
02:04 HighMan You'd be diggin them holes.
02:05 Sgt_Lemming Istas, no, but I have been told I sing rather well
02:05 Sgt_Lemming BitViper, if you wanna read the essay I was talking about yesterday pm me an email address
02:09 PacketHumper BitViper: i'm working on it.  it's been months since we've had to add a new user so no one bothered to fix it. lol
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02:09 BitViper PacketHumper : i hear ya
02:10 BitViper but i have 4 out of 5 screens begging for my attention =(
02:10 PacketHumper BitViper: i'm just going to down the server and update all the plugins
02:10 Sgt_Lemming kk
02:12 Istas Sgt_Lemming: Well that's cool :)
02:14 Monkeh|Lap Now this is a video anyone interested in electronics should watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imdtXcnywb8
02:14 BotSteve Title: EEVblog #247 - Anti Static Bag Myth Revisted - YouTube
02:14 Monkeh|Lap I'm sure most people here know all about that already, but..
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02:20 PacketHumper BitViper: should be working now
02:23 masterofmonks Ah, Douglas.
02:25 lwq1996 i want to hurt the developers that made my netbook. it sucks so bad i cant even play a video
02:26 PacketHumper which netbook do you have?
02:26 Sgt_Lemming yes, netbooks are evil
02:26 lwq1996 dell inspirion mini
02:27 lwq1996 if the would of put a good processor and more ram ouldbe happy
02:27 Sgt_Lemming that would raise the cost though
02:28 Sgt_Lemming and make it not feasible to sell it so cheap
02:28 Monkeh|Lap lwq1996: That's called a 'laptop'
02:29 Sgt_Lemming as opposed to a craptop (a.k.a. netbook)
02:29 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: No, a Craptop is the likes of MSI, HP and Dell consumer grade laptops, etc.
02:29 lwq1996 monkeh, if im right a netbook is a computer that is tiny and doesnt have a cd drive
02:29 Monkeh|Lap You are not.
02:29 Sgt_Lemming lwq1996, mine is tiny and doesn't have a cd drive
02:30 Monkeh|Lap The netbook gets its name from being a low powered machine designed to primarily operate on the internet, ie. webapps
02:30 * Sgt_Lemming nods
02:30 Monkeh|Lap It is not designed to do CPU intensive operations locally
02:30 Monkeh|Lap At least not time-sensitive ones
02:31 Monkeh|Lap Nobody notices 100ms delay while the browser does some javascript-fu
02:31 lwq1996 netbooks have intel atoms right?
02:31 Sgt_Lemming not all, but most
02:31 Monkeh|Lap Everybody notices it when the video is skipping because of it
02:31 Monkeh|Lap The Atom is very popular but AMD are fighting back lately
02:31 Monkeh|Lap It's very possible for netbooks to be ARM based.
02:31 Monkeh|Lap Several are, actually.
02:31 Sgt_Lemming they can also have AMD fusion, Via Nano or other ARM based
02:32 Monkeh|Lap I'm quite fond of AMD's offerings for netbooks and the like
02:32 Monkeh|Lap They perform rather nicely for the power.
02:32 lwq1996 when i get the money to build a new desktop computer, this computer is going to get sent to tgg and thumpered
02:32 Sgt_Lemming yeah, Fusion shits all ove Atom, largely because of the decent graphics
02:32 Monkeh|Lap lwq1996: No, it's going to get sent to me so I can use it properly.
02:32 Monkeh|Lap lwq1996: Anyway, it won't thump overly well, there's not much metal in it.
02:32 Sgt_Lemming thumpering a whole netbook would be impressed
02:32 Sgt_Lemming impressive
02:33 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, if it has a USB port on either side just shove a bit of copper wire into each one
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Yep, that works.
02:33 Sgt_Lemming would be fun
02:33 Sgt_Lemming I'd like to thumper a motherboard
02:33 Monkeh|Lap The plastics will certainly be capable of resisting 1800VDC though
02:33 lwq1996 monkeh you can have it when i build my desktop, im just telling you that you will want to pull your hair off
02:33 Sgt_Lemming bits and pieces everywhere methinks
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: USB would probably not be the best target actually.
02:33 lwq1996 and im even running linux on it
02:34 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Depends on the quality, but some of them actually have proper surge suppression.
02:34 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: .. others do not.
02:34 Sgt_Lemming the shields are grounded, and most motherboards have a pretty decent plane
02:34 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: ICH5 era wasn't it?
02:34 NeWtoz I may be part of a select few, but I don't really get the enjoyment of thumper
02:34 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Like 845/ICH5/6 era as I recall, I'm sure you know what I'm on about.
02:34 Sgt_Lemming yeah, early USB boards didn't have proper fusing, and were vulnerable to bricking
02:35 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Bricking, hell, they used to blow the tops off the chips thanks to ESD.
02:35 Monkeh|Lap I've seen scorched boards.
02:35 * Sgt_Lemming nods
02:35 Monkeh|Lap Extreme cases, but..
02:35 Monkeh|Lap Normally the front ports, too.
02:36 Monkeh|Lap Overly plastic cases plus combining the protective and signal grounds in cheap cables.
02:36 Monkeh|Lap Boy is that ever a bad move
02:36 Monkeh|Lap There's a reason there are seperate power planes in things
02:36 Monkeh|Lap s/power/ground/
02:37 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: I hate cheap USB cables :{
02:37 Sgt_Lemming so do I
02:37 Monkeh|Lap I always look for proper 4c ones
02:37 Monkeh|Lap Combined ground sucks
02:38 * sndwrx nods.
02:39 PacketHumper PacketHumper|away
02:39 PacketHumper oops
02:40 egrsteve Boo!
02:40 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
02:40 BotSteve At 23 Feb 10:21Z, Druidic_Rifleman asked me to tell egrsteve how is the blast containment vessel
02:41 egrsteve ?
02:41 Druidic_Rifleman Is it dinged up
02:41 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: The internet wants to see an animated you.
02:41 egrsteve the lid might be a bit but interior is cement backed so it won't dent
02:42 egrsteve the PVC in it is crumbling
02:42 egrsteve but that can be replaced easily
02:42 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: I kinda expected the shock to get to that eventually.
02:42 egrsteve as that just covers the wires
02:42 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: May want to look at alternative materials, PVCU is quite brittle
02:43 egrsteve I don't know if they have been installed but we also have bronze bulldogs to replace the aluminum ones
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02:43 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: They should last a LOT longer.
02:43 egrsteve the PVC sleaves over the wires entering the box so they can easily be replaced
02:43 egrsteve they should espicially being similar metals
02:44 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Just thinking of the stress cracks in alu.. *shudder*
02:44 egrsteve the ones on the cart so no wear, but do need to be tightened occatonally
02:44 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: See if you can get softer material for the sleeves.
02:45 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Like, err.. how large can you get MDPE pipe?
02:45 egrsteve I have no idea
02:45 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: MDPE will probably last a LOT longer if it comes big enough
02:45 Monkeh|Lap .. problem might be that it basically comes in black or blue.
02:45 egrsteve which will be conductive
02:46 egrsteve black == carbon
02:46 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: The black, yes, not sure on the blue.
02:46 egrsteve at 6kv who knows
02:46 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Ooh.
02:46 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: XLPE.
02:46 egrsteve plans are forming for the next versions currently as well
02:46 egrsteve I think 30KV
02:46 tonsofpcs you can probably get MDPE in huge sizes
02:47 egrsteve probably, its a matter of cost as knowing it will hold off the voltages
02:47 tonsofpcs what is this for? the drain of stomper?
02:47 egrsteve PVC although sacrafical works
02:47 egrsteve no, sleeves around the power wires
02:48 egrsteve so they are right next to the blast
02:48 tonsofpcs oh, insulation or conduit?
02:48 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: XLPE is good for much, much more than 6kV.
02:49 egrsteve agreed, right now it's a metter of cost, improvements will come with the next revsion and new blast containment vessels
02:49 SparkyProjects1 I know you can get small sizes of clear plastic hose, if you can get hold of several sizes one inside the other, that should be more resilienf and non condictive
02:49 tonsofpcs we use thick well casing (UV-resistant PVC, I think) for conduit between buildings under a tower that drops ice.  seems like it could fit your purpose too
02:49 egrsteve thats what we are doing with the PVC as well
02:50 egrsteve we have a few nested
02:50 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Also, I'm not sure, but you should be able to get PVCU in black which can take 6kV.
02:50 Monkeh|Lap But it won't be generic waste pipe.
02:52 SparkyProjects1 tonsofpcs: the other thing to be awar of is that for each discharge, the wires will tend to jump, so you're not just protecting from the outside of the pipe, but also from the inside
02:52 SparkyProjects1 WOuld be interesting to have a camera aimed at the cables for a discharge and see how much they move
02:53 Monkeh|Lap I'm guessing rather a lot
02:53 SparkyProjects1 Monkeh|Lap: a lot of black plastic has carbon to give it the colour
02:53 Monkeh|Lap I know you can see Thumper's cables jumping from time to time
02:53 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: I'm aware.
02:54 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: I've also seen what appears to be black PVCU or ABS used around MV supplies
02:54 Monkeh|Lap Obviously not from close enough to actually identify it
02:54 SparkyProjects1 Yeah, but this is bare copper at much higher voltages
02:55 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: 11kV not high enough for you? :P
02:55 tonsofpcs SparkyProjects1: right.  I suppose you could fill it with some foam to dampen....
02:55 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: XLPE's the way, though.
02:56 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: It'll handle a HELL of a lot more than 6kV :D
02:56 tonsofpcs XLPE?
02:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Also known as PEX
02:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Cross-linked polyethylene
02:57 tonsofpcs ah
02:57 tonsofpcs I'm guessing this is the stuff we use at that tower:  http://www.northernpipe.com/Company/PVC_Pro​ducts/PVC_Well_Casing/pvc_well_casing.html
02:57 BotSteve Title: PVC Well Casing
02:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Ever seen big orange cables used for around 11kV supplies?
02:57 tonsofpcs being well casing, it is designed to handle internal pressure...
02:58 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I've never seen "XLPE".  "PEX" I have.
02:58 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Same thing, different letters.
02:58 tonsofpcs right, I got that now.
02:58 SparkyProjects1 HAHA, "The belled end pressure pipe" bell ends again :D
02:59 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: :D
02:59 HighMan So
02:59 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Most any cable rated above 600V is XLPE in my experience.
02:59 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: oh, we just use copper :-p *ducks*
03:00 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Don't be a bellend. :P
03:00 tonsofpcs also, I've noticed that some of the new street-side runs they're putting in after the flooding is a greenish color, not black... I have to wonder why.
03:00 egrsteve high voltage knob and tube anyone?
03:00 tonsofpcs I should take my camera and go grab a picture
03:00 HighMan night!..
03:00 tonsofpcs egrsteve: that's essenntially what most HV transmission lines are....
03:00 egrsteve i know
03:01 tonsofpcs twisted for balancing, of course.
03:01 egrsteve just keep it away from shit
03:01 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Well away from shit.
03:01 tonsofpcs egrsteve: c'mon, don't you like when all three phases touch because the dividing section fell in a wind storm?
03:01 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Our grid runs at 400kV. I want nothing to do with that.
03:02 tonsofpcs (we lost a phase for a fraction of a cycle at our studio last time that happened in town... our transmitter site was down for about 24 hours)
03:02 egrsteve hmm, maybe tgg should just tap a 400kv grid
03:03 tonsofpcs egrsteve: what do you have running out back?
03:03 tonsofpcs also, if you're tapping a 400kV grid, where are you tapping the screen? ;)
03:03 egrsteve maybe 10 to 15k
03:03 BitViper yea egrsteve just throw some wire over the lines in the back parking lot
03:03 Monkeh|Lap Highest voltage around there should be like, 11kV, maybe as high as 25 in some areas?
03:03 Monkeh|Lap Not sure who picks these voltages.
03:03 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: there is a transformer station a few blocks south
03:04 tonsofpcs like, large enough that I can tell that from a far-up view in google maps
03:04 egrsteve we have a pig for out 240 split phase
03:04 Monkeh|Lap We've got, iirc, 3.3, 6, 11, 33, and I'm not sure what's above that except 275k and 400k
03:04 egrsteve the 480 3 phase comes from up the street a bit
03:04 SparkyProjects1 132KV
03:04 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yeah but you don't run serious angry voltages around an area like that :)
03:04 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Yes, there's that one, thanks
03:05 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Pretty sure there are still a lot of odd legacy voltages floating around.
03:05 SparkyProjects1 I remembered the 132 because an Apache ran into one recently :P
03:05 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: well, the voltages in a lot of ties are in flux and they just refer by an arbitrary number...
03:05 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: .. impressive.
03:06 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Our grid is a little more stable than that abomination you have over in the states. :P
03:06 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: We don't have states larger than our entire island browning out. :P
03:06 SparkyProjects1 I wonder if the voltages are the RMS value of a peak whole number
03:06 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: we don't either.  We tend to take a seaboard at a time ;)
03:06 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Pretty sure they're RMS
03:07 SparkyProjects1 yeah, they are RMS, but i've never worked out what the peak would be, and if that peak voltage makes more sense
03:07 tonsofpcs (not really, even in the "great august blackout" of ... 2003?  there weren't whole states out.  Driving home that afternoon, each municipality was different.
03:07 Monkeh|Lap SparkyProjects1: Which would make the peak what, 565kV?
03:07 tonsofpcs peak is what... 3dB higher?
03:08 tonsofpcs ah, peak = 1.414*rms
03:08 Toastdude ...why sqrt(2)?
03:08 tonsofpcs trig.
03:08 Toastdude Ah..
03:09 egrsteve technicly an integral
03:09 egrsteve but it can be summerized with trig
03:10 Toastdude Aren't integrals caluclus?
03:10 egrsteve yeds
03:10 egrsteve *yes
03:10 Toastdude Okay
03:10 egrsteve so a trig summery is sufficiant most of the time
03:11 epictang0 gah! turn this crap off!
03:11 tonsofpcs egrsteve: random OT:  There's a new video editor where apparently you can have a shark eat your timeline.  [we now return you to your regular scheduled HV]
03:11 Toastdude I still need to learn how to "read" integrals...
03:11 epictang0 oops wrong chan
03:11 epictang0 lol
03:12 Monkeh|Lap epictang0: Please don't turn off my 400kV grid. I'm using it.
03:12 epictang0 meh...the lackey turned on sharyl crow..from ozzy...
03:12 epictang0 that is worse than jumping in icy waters
03:13 tonsofpcs epictang0: someone did that at the end of amerrican idol tonight
03:15 epictang0 tonsofpcs: i still fail to idolize anyone on that show...
03:15 tonsofpcs epictang0: I was changing channels at the end of the hour
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03:18 epictang0 violet hill...much better
03:22 BitViper *cough* good grief this is REALLY peppery beef jerky
03:23 * Sgt_Lemming steals some
03:23 BitViper nibble with caution
03:23 BitViper cracked black pepper
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03:23 epictang0 wheeeeeeeeee...just transferred a complete dvd in ~4 seconds
03:24 epictang0 100gbit is hooooooooooooot
03:25 lwq1996 im bored
03:25 lwq1996 .seen wannabe1987
03:25 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 2.95 hours ago at 2012-02-24 00:27:53 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:25:07 UTC
03:25 lwq1996 shes still naping :P
03:25 epictang0 i want to keep this switch for myself now...too bad
03:27 Coderjoe egrsteve: who was selling the antennas for less again?
03:29 BitViper gah, note to self, DONT BITE THE PEPPER CHUNKS !
03:29 * lwq1996 tickles wannabe awake
03:29 Coderjoe bah
03:29 BitViper additional note : dont eat the preservative pack
03:29 Coderjoe i've chomped on whole peppercorns before
03:30 egrsteve universal-radio
03:30 Coderjoe yes, don't eat the dessicant
03:30 BitViper Coderjoe : intentionally , or did you regret it ?
03:30 Coderjoe intentionally
03:30 BitViper O_O
03:30 Coderjoe they're weak
03:30 epictang0 good going down....not so fun coming out
03:30 BitViper hahaha
03:31 egrsteve http://universal-radio.com/​catalog/hamantht/2368.html
03:31 BotSteve Title: Diamond RH77CA SRH77CA Antenna
03:31 BitViper i like my heat to be not quite so aggressive. strong is good, agressive not so much
03:31 epictang0 i have a couple dried ghost chilis from last year if you are feeling froggy
03:32 masterofmonks I like really hot peppers, though if the burn lasts more than say 15 minutes, I tend to get a bit bored with it.
03:32 * lwq1996 slaps masterofmonks ass
03:32 masterofmonks epictang0, I think I may try to find some seeds for those this year for my garden.
03:32 lwq1996 :P
03:33 * masterofmonks pepper sprays lwq1996.
03:33 epictang0 masterofmonks: make sure you handle them with gloves...i made that mistake and rubbed my eye
03:33 epictang0 stuff is no joke
03:33 lwq1996 :/
03:34 egrsteve just remember what is eaten must come out again
03:34 masterofmonks epictang0, I was cutting habanero peppers for salsa without gloves then made the mistake of going to relieve myself.
03:34 BitViper what egrsteve said
03:34 BitViper lol mom
03:34 epictang0 masterofmonks: think about that x1000
03:34 masterofmonks epictang0, I am aware.
03:34 lwq1996 hmmmm
03:34 masterofmonks I have also been pepper sprayed before.
03:34 Coderjoe wow
03:35 * lwq1996 gives wannabe wake up call
03:35 Druidic_Rifleman egrsteve toy still around
03:35 Coderjoe not bad
03:35 Druidic_Rifleman Pepperspray is evil
03:35 egrsteve the lift, no
03:35 lwq1996 ive been pepper sprayed
03:35 masterofmonks lwq1996, Yes I just did it.
03:35 lwq1996 no before you
03:35 Druidic_Rifleman Hey steve can you get me some photo's of the lid of the stopmer containment vessel
03:35 lwq1996 my aunt did it to me
03:35 masterofmonks And you suffered greatly.
03:36 egrsteve it's a round steel lid with a grove for a gasket
03:36 Druidic_Rifleman Damn I could of used some pepper spraye lid might be a bit but interior is cement backed so it won't dent
03:36 Druidic_Rifleman <egrsteve> the PVC in it is crumbling
03:36 Druidic_Rifleman <egrsteve> but that can be replaced easily
03:36 Druidic_Rifleman <Monkeh|Lap> egrsteve: I kinda expected the shock to get to that eventually.
03:36 Druidic_Rifleman <egrsteve> as that just covers the wires
03:36 Druidic_Rifleman opps
03:36 lwq1996 she forgot we were staying at her house once and i got up to take a piss and she pepper sprayed me in the dark and hit me with a broom
03:36 egrsteve ask chris to show it in the CB
03:36 Druidic_Rifleman I just wanna see if the shrapnes dammaging it
03:36 lwq1996 hi wannabe :P
03:36 wannabe-zz i'm going back to bed
03:36 wannabe-zz night
03:36 Druidic_Rifleman Sugh
03:36 Druidic_Rifleman Sigh
03:36 lwq1996 awe :( night
03:36 masterofmonks lwq1996, And you suffered greatly.
03:36 lwq1996 yes!!!!
03:37 lwq1996 damn im lucky she didnt get her shotgun O.O
03:37 epictang0 masterofmonks: we had to do both gas chamber and pepper spray in bct...good times
03:37 masterofmonks Protip: Real men admit it when shit hurts.
03:37 lwq1996 oh yeah
03:37 masterofmonks nothing like a little CS to get your nose running.
03:37 lwq1996 i will say, "DAMN THAT FUCKING HURT"
03:38 lwq1996 i was 13 and my dad told me to hold on to the spark plug wire on a chain saw once while he cranked it, he stood there and laughed when i fell over screaming :/
03:38 wannabe-zz so monks you want ghost peppers?
03:39 masterofmonks wannabe-zz, You have some?
03:39 astro73|mal ooph
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03:39 wannabe-zz my friend does
03:39 lwq1996 damn ghost peppers, the worst thing ever to eat
03:39 Druidic_Rifleman LOL like in some of the protest videos where the protestors are laughing if you look close enough at the footage while being tear gassed
03:39 astro73|mal i'm with lwq1996 on this one
03:40 Druidic_Rifleman Cause i smile when every gland on my body burns and my noose is running burning snot like it was niagra falls
03:40 Druidic_Rifleman but what do you get from a protest movement filled with drama club members
03:41 epictang0 targets?
03:41 lwq1996 hey Druidic_Rifleman how long do you think it will take before they let you into gr?
03:41 masterofmonks wannabe-zz, Seed or dried?
03:42 wannabe-zz both, i think.  astro73|alice, do you know?  jqm has them
03:42 Druidic_Rifleman i should be there some time next week if the Court house bitches get my fucking form
03:42 lwq1996 wannabe-zz: im so in love ^.^
03:42 wannabe-zz lee, i don't need to hear it, ok?
03:42 wannabe-zz no offense
03:42 lwq1996 damnit, suppose to be in pm
03:42 BitViper Druidic_Rifleman : crossing fingers, that will get, hopefully, you, zozo, and me all there, hey cpro, when you comin up LOL
03:42 * lwq1996 goes way now
03:42 * masterofmonks snorts.
03:43 masterofmonks Poor lwq1996.
03:43 lwq1996 DONT DO CRACK
03:43 epictang0 lol...down in flames
03:43 Druidic_Rifleman who is lee in love with?
03:43 rowan138 his mum presumably
03:43 lwq1996 a girl obviously :P
03:43 Druidic_Rifleman lee has a Girl friend lee has a GF
03:43 lwq1996 rowan138:  are you new?
03:43 masterofmonks lwq1996, rowan138 is not.
03:43 Coderjoe new ht antenna ordered. \o/
03:44 lwq1996 hmmm, ive never noticed him till now
03:44 Druidic_Rifleman lee and some girl sitting in a tree K I S S I N G first comes love then come marrage then comes a brutal devorce
03:44 masterofmonks Allright Druidic_Rifleman.
03:44 lwq1996 oh durid shut up :P
03:44 Druidic_Rifleman what
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03:46 dbshortwave yNos around?
03:46 lwq1996 Druidic_Rifleman: i sent you a pm
03:46 wannabe1987 eh.  my neck hurts now
03:46 dbshortwave sorry
03:46 rowan138 he is on irc but it could be he has left himself logged on
03:46 lwq1996 wannabe1987:  i though you were going back to sleep?
03:46 wannabe1987 eh
03:47 wannabe1987 my ear piece keeps talking
03:47 rowan138 it is posessed by gerbroni :P
03:47 wannabe1987 and i have to switch laundry....
03:48 masterofmonks Earpiece?
03:48 wannabe1987 teamspeak
03:48 Coderjoe vehicle seen at the skywarn training: http://i.imgur.com/EFExs.jpg
03:48 Druidic_Rifleman I amstarting to think TGG strongly needs an oldquarry
03:49 Coderjoe http://i.imgur.com/OAlxK.jpg
03:50 Coderjoe you can kinda see the three stacks of mobile radios on the passenger seat
03:50 Druidic_Rifleman awwwww i remember when i was young nieve with my first crush like lee...
03:50 wannabe1987 druid stop
03:50 Druidic_Rifleman She turned out to be a wannabe serial killer...
03:50 Druidic_Rifleman oooh ok
03:51 lwq1996 Druidic_Rifleman:  was it your hand?
03:51 Druidic_Rifleman nooooo
03:51 lwq1996 did you cheat on your right with the left :P
03:51 rowan138 it was his foot :P
03:51 lwq1996 o.O
03:51 Coderjoe rosy and her 5 sisters got jealous?
03:51 epictang0 i have always wanted to see a female version of 'To Catch A Predator'...
03:52 * masterofmonks coughs
03:52 epictang0 it is always lemonade...never say yes to the lemonade
03:52 lwq1996 masterofmonks you have a hurnia
03:52 BitViper Coderjoe : THE PORCUPINE !!!!!!
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03:53 lwq1996 BITCH TITS
03:53 BitViper Coderjoe : is that GR ? I missed my local skywarn training last week =(
03:53 BitViper hrm, wait, was this week tues
03:54 rowan138 its friday morning in the uk
03:55 Coderjoe BitViper: it was
03:55 Coderjoe well, Grandville, to be specific
03:55 tehdark45 hi lwq1996
03:55 BitViper Coderjoe : is that car the same person who some 15 ish years ago got arrested and his car stripped by the grpd, resulting in a law suit against the city by the ham community ?
03:56 * lwq1996 starts sining party rock anthem
03:56 Coderjoe egrsteve: I just had another RDF-related theory for that porcupine jeep: perhaps he has a computer monitoring the radio outputs for doing some RDF thing the hard way?
03:56 tehdark45 fail
03:56 lwq1996 what thats the only new song i actually like
03:56 lwq1996 i can shuffle too :P
03:56 Coderjoe BitViper: I have no idea whose jeep it is
03:57 Coderjoe lwq1996: can you do the whole routine in the middle of the song?
03:57 BitViper Coderjoe : ah ok, yeah back then when i lived in gr there was a guy with a similar setup, got tagged by grpd
03:57 Coderjoe what for?
03:57 lwq1996 shuffle like them, no, but im getting better
03:57 BitViper that doesnt look like an rdf set up, looks inline
03:58 tehdark45 no lee, you dont sin songs >.<
03:58 lwq1996 im a bass in the chorus at my school, how cant i sing
03:58 BitViper Coderjoe : someone called in a 'stalker' because he was parked on the side of the road in a residential area for whatever reason, and they didnt like all the antennas aparently. the cops arrested him and stripped his car. the ham community went batshit
03:59 tehdark45 lee, you said SINing
03:59 tehdark45 >.<
03:59 lwq1996 oh
03:59 tehdark45 derp
03:59 tehdark45 :P
03:59 BitViper it ended well, the grpd got educated, they replaced all the equipemnt and added some, and the end result was actually a very good relationhip between the grpd and the ham community
04:00 lwq1996 tehdark45: i was thinking, "what the hell is he talking about"
04:00 tehdark45 lol
04:00 wannabe1987 lee, you said "sin-ing" not singing.  he's going off your typo
04:01 wannabe1987 and i'm late to the party
04:01 lwq1996 i know that now, i didnt know i made a typo
04:01 wannabe1987 i'm still in a fog
04:01 Coderjoe he has to be doing receive-only, though. if he keyed up any of them, he'd fry the front end on the rest
04:01 tehdark45 hi wannabe1987
04:02 BitViper Coderjoe : unless he has some insane filtering
04:02 Coderjoe unless he has some sort of filter on all of the antennas that protects against signals that are too strong
04:02 BitViper i cant tell what sort of pattern those are arranged in
04:03 BitViper typical rdf only uses 4 antennas in a 'circle'
04:03 Coderjoe yeah.. the typical doppler rig
04:03 Coderjoe though you CAN do RDF with just one antenna
04:03 BitViper eh ? just one ?
04:03 BitViper how ?
04:04 Coderjoe it has to be a directional antenna
04:04 BitViper oh well yeah
04:05 Coderjoe you manually swing it around until you find the direction with the strongest signal, from a few points, and you can generally triangulate a general area
04:05 BitViper Coderjoe : im working on several updates or enhancements to the "typical" roanoake style doppler
04:05 BitViper Coderjoe : yeah
04:06 Toastdude brb
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04:11 wannabe1987 i'm hungry
04:11 lwq1996 wannabe's got the midnight munchies :P
04:11 wannabe1987 no
04:23 * egrsteve might be hungry
04:24 wannabe1987 why do old people fw: things via email?
04:24 lwq1996 im always hungry
04:24 lwq1996 idk
04:24 wannabe1987 noone has time/want to sit and watch or read or whatnot
04:24 wannabe1987 and she'll prolly ask me tomorrow if i saw it
04:24 epictang0 wannabe1987: just send them to /dev/null
04:24 lwq1996 lol
04:25 wannabe1987 i found food on the bedside table....yay granola bars!
04:25 lwq1996 lol
04:28 * wannabe1987 wants more brb
04:31 wannabe1987 who the FUK thinks its a good idea to play piano at 11:30 at night?
04:31 wannabe1987 and i found out theres food (done food) in my crock pot....i turned it off, will deal in AM with it....
04:34 lwq1996 wannabe i like playing my trumpet at night
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04:34 astro73|mal lisa!
04:34 lwq1996 hhrlisa: HI
04:34 hhrlisa Sup
04:34 lwq1996 i was sad that there wasnt hhr tonight :/
04:35 hhrlisa i have to work
04:35 hhrlisa one of the many reasonsi hate my job
04:35 lwq1996 lol, i know, i was just sad :/
04:35 hhrlisa i know me too
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04:36 astro73|mal i just accomplished a major milestone in code. it's amazing
04:37 wannabe1987 congrats!
04:37 lwq1996 which was?
04:37 wannabe1987 .cookie astro73|mal
04:37 BotSteve Here you go, astro73|mal, I baked you an oatmeal cookie!
04:37 wannabe1987 .cake ^Proph3t^
04:37 BotSteve Here you go, ^Proph3t^, I baked you a chocolate mint cake!
04:37 astro73|mal lwq1996, it's complicated. do you want to know anyway?
04:37 ^Proph3t^ hooray!!!
04:37 wannabe1987 you have a 3, proph3t
04:37 lwq1996 yeah sure, i will probally encounter it any way when i go into school for coding
04:38 lwq1996 ITS A HUMPER
04:38 PacketHumper wow that's a bummer.
04:38 ^Proph3t^ o.0
04:38 PacketHumper stupid buffered ram
04:38 lwq1996 lol
04:39 astro73|mal ok, i'm working on a chrome extension. One of the things available is to make asynchronous requests instead of just getting the object. I just rewrote this extension to use that, abstracting details and adding cool features in the process.
04:39 lwq1996 wow i actually kinda understood that
04:40 PacketHumper fully buffered dimms = hella expensive
04:40 astro73|mal i think it's Pretty Sweet
04:40 PacketHumper at least it works in my mac
04:40 ^Proph3t^ ewww a mac
04:40 PacketHumper if anyone wants a dell precision workstion 490 without ram you are welcome to take it.  you gotta pick it up though
04:41 PacketHumper don't worry it runs linux
04:41 ^Proph3t^ ok
04:41 PacketHumper thought right now it's booted into mac osx
04:41 ^Proph3t^ *vomits*
04:42 PacketHumper i was excited. one of my clients was throwing away a dell precision workstation 490.
04:42 PacketHumper dual xeon 5150's but only 4gb of ram.
04:42 wannabe1987 hi PacketHumper!
04:42 PacketHumper tossed the ram in my mac pro
04:42 PacketHumper hey wannabe
04:42 PacketHumper so now i have a very nice machine without ram.
04:43 PacketHumper was going to bump it up to 8gb and throw win7 on it as a home theater pc for the bedroom but $305 for 8gb ram.
04:44 PacketHumper i also have a precision workstation 280 if anyone wants it.  i think it's got 4gb ram in it.
04:44 PacketHumper it's either a p4 or pD
04:44 Cprossu not a bad score at all PacketHumper
04:44 PacketHumper true, but that's the only thing in it that's usable unless someone needs it for parts.
04:44 Cprossu if it only had 4gb of ram, what in the hell did the customer dump into it for video?
04:45 PacketHumper it was a print processing machine for a large format printer
04:45 PacketHumper it ran illistrator and photoshop
04:45 PacketHumper it opened documents to print them on either a 60" plotter or a vinal printer.
04:45 Cprossu I wonder what the highest proc option for that unit was
04:46 PacketHumper they usually went all out so i'm guessing the 5150 xeon.
04:46 PacketHumper 2.66ghz dual core
04:46 PacketHumper it had 2 procs in it.  it's basically a clone of the original intel mac pro
04:46 Prophetisasleepg night all
04:46 Cprossu the way you put that is gross lol
04:46 lwq1996 night
04:47 lwq1996 hey astro what exactly does this extention do?
04:47 PacketHumper if i lived in michigan i'd give it to chris so he could render the CBs faster
04:47 PacketHumper but it's heavy and only 4gb of ram makes it useless
04:47 astro73|mal It's a fork of Use HTTPS. It forces sites to use HTTPS so that you're not leaking cookies and data
04:48 PacketHumper ooooo that's a good extension.
04:48 Prophetasleepawa aw damnit
04:48 astro73|mal my fork is currently dogfood quality: It generally works but I don't trust it in the hands of a non-developer
04:48 PacketHumper yah i know.  i have the same problem.
04:48 lwq1996 thats a good extention
04:48 lwq1996 like me :
04:48 lwq1996 :P
04:49 Cprossu PacketHumper looks like we can toss a couple of X5365's in there at least
04:49 PacketHumper what are they using at tgg for rendering and such.
04:49 Cprossu now let's see what etheftbay charges
04:49 Cprossu http://www.ebay.com/itm/Matching-Pair-Intel-Xeon-​X5365-SLAED-Processors-3-00-GHZ-CPU-Quad-8M-1333-​MHz-/260964673084?pt=CPUs&amp;hash=item3cc2b4e63c
04:49 astro73|mal i mean, if you're brave, i can send you a link for my dev repo (it updates whenever I commit). But it'll probably break at some point
04:49 BotSteve Title: Matching Pair Intel Xeon X5365 SLAED Processors 3.00 GHZ CPU Quad 8M 1333 MHz | eBay
04:49 Cprossu damn expensive
04:49 astro73|mal also, chrome only
04:50 PacketHumper one day i'll make the journey out to the lab
04:50 lwq1996 will it ?work on the linux equivilant chromium
04:50 PacketHumper WTF!
04:50 Cprossu PacketHumper: workstation and server CPU's what do you expect?
04:50 astro73|mal lwq1996, should. I don't know extension differences though
04:51 PacketHumper it might be time to harvest this beotch for parts.
04:51 Cprossu actually
04:51 lwq1996 can you send me a link i can be a beta tester :P
04:51 Cprossu think you could ship it to the lab PacketHumper?
04:51 Cprossu in it's current configuration it's already 90% better than many of our video editing machines =P
04:51 PacketHumper seriously?
04:52 Cprossu yes. seriously.
04:52 PacketHumper wow, dude.
04:52 PacketHumper i honestly feel horrible.
04:52 rowan138 it would make for an interesting unboxing and would make cory jump up and down and make squealing noises
04:52 lwq1996 lol
04:52 Cprossu Welcome to how I felt when I got there PacketHumper heh
04:52 PacketHumper i've been dumpstering machines better than this for the last 4 months.
04:53 Cprossu well you should know, grand rapids is a black hole computer wise
04:53 rowan138 >.< dont throw them away donate them!!
04:53 PacketHumper rowan138: i would donate them but chicago is a long ways away
04:53 Cprossu it's not like here where I can go to the store and buy new hex cores without a problem
04:53 PacketHumper wow, that's exactly what came in the original mac pro 2006's
04:53 rowan138 although here in the uk everything costs a lot more
04:53 Cprossu PacketHumper do you know how weird I felt when I packed a phenom 9750 quad core and a shitty mobo with me....
04:54 Cprossu and found out that it was essentially the best thing in the lab?
04:54 rowan138 like a pint of milk costs about $1cad!!
04:54 PacketHumper let me get the weight of it really fast and see how much it would be to ship it.
04:54 Cprossu don't forget the dimensions too
04:54 PacketHumper holy nutsacks!!!!
04:54 PacketHumper for that i can drive it out there
04:54 Experimentonomen *yawn*
04:55 Cprossu you have to search around
04:55 rowan138 try a different shipper
04:55 PacketHumper $116 uninsured
04:55 PacketHumper ups is more expensive
04:55 Cprossu yeah for that you can ship a pallet of crap
04:55 Cprossu freight
04:55 PacketHumper anyone got specs on the best machine there?
04:55 rowan138 jus build a pallet of the good pc's and ship them freight
04:55 Cprossu litereally it'll make you cringe
04:56 PacketHumper nah, i've wanted to see the lab for awhile and figured i'd take some goodies out there with me.
04:56 rowan138 buy a cheap van and bring as many computers as you can fit in the van
04:56 PacketHumper do they have any ddr2 667 fully buffered dimms laying around?
04:57 Cprossu they might but very little, I'd be willing to chip some in if necessary
04:57 PacketHumper you have no idea how horrible i feel right now.
04:57 Cprossu they do have some ddr2-400 buffered
04:57 PacketHumper ouch
04:57 Cprossu which I didn't even know existed
04:57 PacketHumper ok i'll throw the 4gb back in.
04:57 PacketHumper i use the mac pro to just fiddle with.
04:57 Cprossu but yeah we're really at a loss for good stuff
04:57 Cprossu which is very sad
04:57 Experimentonomen Cprossu, what kinda stuff do u like to diy ? other than computers
04:58 Cprossu we have all the P4 2.6's you could ever want though x_x
04:58 PacketHumper yah i'll put the ram back in it and plan a trip.
04:58 Cprossu Cars (automotive), Welding (nearly anything), and certain electronics
04:58 rowan138 p4 2.6!! ive pulled better out of a skip!!
04:58 PacketHumper i'll even bring out the pw380
04:58 Cprossu I've pulled better out of my poo rowan138
04:59 Experimentonomen Cprossu, wut kinda electronics
04:59 PacketHumper what speed is the captains machine that he renders with?
04:59 rowan138 thing is tho in the uk stuf gets used until it dies then it gets tied back together with a shoelace and it put back into operation
04:59 Cprossu Experimentonomen: binary logic state machines =)
04:59 Cprossu PacketHumper that's another story
04:59 Cprossu he's building a new rig up
05:00 Cprossu hopefully from my specs
05:00 PacketHumper what is he building.
05:00 Cprossu which I should update
05:00 Experimentonomen Cprossu, binary confuses me :/
05:00 Cprossu PacketHumper: he gave me an insane budget and insisted on a few weird things
05:00 PacketHumper what about a crappy system board from an asus cm5570
05:01 PacketHumper let me know what they are, i might have them.
05:01 PacketHumper if some go missing from stock who cares.
05:01 Cprossu I think we may have a few c2d 1.86's laying around (I hope)
05:01 PacketHumper hmmm wonder if i have any...
05:01 Cprossu but yeah
05:01 Cprossu I came 2000 miles
05:02 PacketHumper what were the specs he wanted?
05:02 Cprossu to find that I was in a drought
05:02 Experimentonomen Cprossu, i suck so bad at digital :/
05:02 Cprossu I'll get you a newegg wishlist link in a moment PacketHumper
05:02 PacketHumper kk
05:02 rowan138 hmm where i used to work we often would get excess stuff and we were allowed to pilfer it and eventually we all had +£4k rigs for nothing!
05:03 PacketHumper i don't have a single machine that isn't a heavy processing machine.
05:03 Cprossu Heck I run a lot of heavy duty machines myself
05:03 PacketHumper even my router/firewall is a quadcore xeon with 16gb ram and they have nothing.
05:03 Cprossu and shat bricks when I didn't bring some more of my 'garbage' with me
05:04 Cprossu let me put it this way PacketHumper
05:04 PacketHumper i'd be making a day trip up.
05:04 PacketHumper probably with 2 passengers.
05:04 Cprossu I was going to the salvage places getting bent pin-ed a64 x2's so I could at least get them some decent computers
05:04 PacketHumper i'd bring the horse for some of you to meet but omni would tire of him very quickly.
05:05 PacketHumper i thought the machines they were building were to sell to get money
05:05 Cprossu some yes some no.
05:05 Cprossu anything with power however we need bad
05:05 Cprossu for our own stuff
05:06 PacketHumper wonder what i got left in my garage.
05:08 Cprossu a lot of things went up in price PacketHumper
05:08 Cprossu http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/Public​WishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=25760248
05:08 BotSteve Title: Newegg.com - Once You Know, You Newegg
05:09 Cprossu but that's more-or-less what I came up with
05:09 PacketHumper wow, there are a lot of things that could be done a lot cheaper and could give nearly the same performance.
05:09 Cprossu yes I am completely aware
05:09 Cprossu but.
05:09 Cprossu there's a sticking point
05:09 Cprossu Fucking Sony Vegas
05:10 PacketHumper lol
05:10 Cprossu and even worse he wants all that hard drive space
05:10 PacketHumper why not a core i7 lga1336
05:10 Experimentonomen Cprossu, why are you not into analog cirs like me ? boring ?
05:10 Cprossu because it's a dead socket honestly
05:10 Cprossu the original build was though
05:11 PacketHumper it is, but you'd save about 200 dollars just on cost of the proc/sys brd.
05:11 Cprossu Experimentonomen: op amps are fun though
05:11 Cprossu PacketHumper when you're given a 10K budget $200 is nothing
05:11 Cprossu I can save $200 by putting it in a reasonable case
05:11 PacketHumper but they could use that money for other things
05:11 Cprossu indeed.
05:11 Experimentonomen burprossu ;)
05:12 Cprossu picky customers though you know PacketHumper :D
05:12 PacketHumper yah i know.  but don't hate me for this comment, i don't think he understands what he wants/needs
05:12 Cprossu you'd find my original builds way more resonable
05:12 PacketHumper this is what i do for a living.  build heave 3d and video editing machines.
05:12 Cprossu belive me when I tell you that yes, you're right.
05:12 Cprossu =P
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05:12 Cprossu there is one sticking point though
05:12 PacketHumper this makes me want to cry
05:13 Cprossu he wants it to still be able to work... 5 years from now
05:13 PacketHumper ok the ssd i understand but why 2?  scratch disk?
05:13 epictang0 also, what were you planning to control those HDs with?
05:13 Cprossu yeah a scratch disk
05:13 epictang0 need to add a controller to that build
05:13 Cprossu epictang0 check it.
05:13 PacketHumper you never use an ssd for a scratch disk
05:13 PacketHumper ever
05:13 Experimentonomen .cookie wannabe1987 and Cprossu
05:13 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987 and Cprossu, I baked you a white chocolate macadamia nut cookie!
05:13 PacketHumper you'll kill it in a year
05:13 Cprossu which is fine.
05:13 Cprossu it's only a 120gber
05:13 wannabe1987 nom!  thanks :D
05:13 wannabe1987 those are the best kind.....
05:14 Cprossu he wants to be able to manipulate 1080P without lag PacketHumper
05:14 PacketHumper wannabe1987: agreed
05:14 Cprossu got a better suggestion?
05:14 PacketHumper ROFL
05:14 wannabe1987 especially subway's
05:14 epictang0 Cprossu: i only see the 4x onboard...
05:14 Cprossu epictang0: you're looking wrong then
05:14 Cprossu epictang0: there are 10 sata's onboard iirc
05:14 PacketHumper that board has 2 4x sata 6 controllers
05:15 PacketHumper ah they added additional controllers.  are they SI or RR
05:15 Experimentonomen so wutz wannabe1987 up to ?
05:15 Cprossu worse marvell iirc =X
05:15 wannabe1987 reading on the lgbtq forums
05:15 epictang0 ouch...
05:16 PacketHumper for 10K you could get him a stomping dell precision workstation with almost all that with a 5 year NBD warranty
05:16 epictang0 right...
05:16 PacketHumper dual quad core even
05:16 Cprossu yeah but god.
05:16 Cprossu I hate fucking dell
05:16 epictang0 my mobile precision was like $3500 and it would spank that all over
05:16 PacketHumper OOOO epic which one you got?
05:16 PacketHumper m6600?
05:16 epictang0 6600
05:16 epictang0 yep...
05:16 PacketHumper high 5 dude
05:16 epictang0 i love it
05:16 PacketHumper got 2 of those
05:17 epictang0 beats the crap outta my mac pro
05:17 Cprossu probably in a 'real' editing program epictang0.
05:17 Cprossu I don't count vegas as 'real'.
05:18 PacketHumper epictang0: check this service tag out 188LLQ1
05:18 Cprossu then again avid is picky as hell.
05:18 PacketHumper i have 2 of those.
05:18 epictang0 i have 2x 400GB SSDs onboard...
05:18 Experimentonomen i wouldet waste 3500 bucks on a laptop, i'd put that money on a really good stationary
05:18 epictang0 running in a raid0
05:18 Cprossu hell for $3500 I could make a realistic machine that would kick butt
05:18 epictang0 and 32GB ram
05:18 Cprossu raid 0, yikes.
05:19 epictang0 i dont care, i back up to a raid 5 array
05:19 epictang0 i didnt want any moving parts onboard
05:19 hhrlisa http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.​com/media/tinafeybody.jpg
05:20 PacketHumper i have 2 SSD's in mine and the blueray burner is now external and replaced with a 500gb momentus xt2 hybrid drive for a scratch disk.
05:20 PacketHumper that's just for mobile editing at customers sites if needed.
05:20 Cprossu so what's your poison of choice?
05:21 Cprossu I fucking hate avid media composer but that's what I use on my mobile rig.
05:21 PacketHumper depends on what the client wants.
05:21 epictang0 PacketHumper: nice build...i have the same but no digitizer screen
05:21 PacketHumper 90% of our work is done in 3dsmax since it imports quickly from autocad
05:22 epictang0 and i have the ati card
05:22 PacketHumper epictang0: the digitizer isn't worth it.  i've had it replaced 3 times and it still randomly thinks i touch the screen.  it's set to pen only
05:22 Cprossu ahhhh so mobile editing you mean 3dsmax, got yah
05:22 Cprossu do you do video editing?
05:22 PacketHumper i don't
05:22 epictang0 me? no...
05:22 PacketHumper just re-encoding.
05:23 Cprossu video editing is a queer animal.
05:23 Cprossu the secret is all NLE products suck.
05:23 PacketHumper i've had to rip a presentation from bluray and dump it down to mkv h264 with dts-hd in under 20 minutes.
05:23 PacketHumper hence the laptop
05:23 Cprossu you learn to deal with one's nuances and demmands.
05:23 PacketHumper i do whatever my clients want.
05:24 PacketHumper most of the designers/editors have software they like.
05:24 PacketHumper some final cut, some premiere, some preffer the icky offerings of sony
05:24 Cprossu premiere has come a long way
05:24 epictang0 that it has...
05:25 Cprossu it was barely a working product in ver 4
05:25 Cprossu man I remember rendering shit using the mpeg-2 processor that was onboard a mirovideo DC30 card
05:25 Cprossu Cross your fingers and hope it doesn't crash
05:25 PacketHumper it was a blue screen generator at version 4. lol
05:25 epictang0 my laptop is used mostly for pentests when I like to have 10 VMs doing different things...quickly
05:25 epictang0 lol
05:25 Cprossu as your seagate 4gb 7200rpm scsi drives chuckle at you
05:26 PacketHumper yah i dual boot to backtrack for that.
05:26 PacketHumper i purchased the little 128gb ssd add in card for that.
05:26 epictang0 no need to boot backtrack...it has directio
05:26 epictang0 i can take full control of the wireless/ethernet
05:27 Cprossu do those suckers also have vnc built into the bios?
05:27 epictang0 yep
05:27 epictang0 i disabled that shit...but yeah
05:28 PacketHumper they are pretty impressive laptops
05:28 PacketHumper i don't know if they still offer the backlit keyboard.
05:28 epictang0 yep
05:28 epictang0 i have it
05:28 epictang0 lol
05:28 * Cprossu *imagines chris driving over it with his car, cringes*
05:28 epictang0 they arent toughbooks, but they can take a beating
05:28 PacketHumper be careful, if they try to replace your laptop for any reason double check the keyboard first.
05:28 PacketHumper you could kill someone with one of these. lol
05:28 epictang0 i dropped my 6500 off a loading dock
05:29 PacketHumper ouch
05:29 epictang0 it worked like a dream
05:29 Cprossu I don't care what they've been through, they've killed TELXON'S THERE....
05:29 PacketHumper Cprossu: i'm going to see what a good machine from dell would run you without discount.
05:29 epictang0 minus the cracked screen that dell happily replaced
05:29 epictang0 with a smile
05:29 Cprossu PacketHumper: and I'll update my specs too
05:29 PacketHumper i have the accidental damage warranty for either 3 or 5 years
05:30 Cprossu PacketHumper: Last time I did this list was 3-4 months ago
05:30 PacketHumper what aside from video editing does he need to do
05:30 PacketHumper also check out corsair 700d case.
05:30 PacketHumper it's what i'm using.  cheaper and glorious
05:30 Cprossu it's is an excellent case
05:30 Cprossu so is the antec twelve hundred
05:30 Cprossu and several cooler master cases too
05:31 Cprossu he wants 'at least 10tb' of hard drive space, a scratch drive, a ssd for the OS, must be windows 7 x64, sony Vegas is damn near all he's going to run on it. 4 1080P monitors a must too
05:32 Cprossu he wants it 'to be upgradable to 6'
05:32 Cprossu he already has the radeon 6870's too so you don't have to put that in PacketHumper
05:32 epictang0 does he want a pony too...that he will never ride because it will be pink and have rainbows out it's ass?
05:32 Cprossu yes he wants a pony that shoots rainbows out of it's ass
05:32 Cprossu and a diamondplate saddle
05:33 PacketHumper rofl
05:33 Cprossu and it better be a unicorn (rofl)
05:33 PacketHumper why the hell does he want so much storage in 1 workstation
05:33 Cprossu because it's his home computer that he does all the captains blogs on
05:33 PacketHumper i can't argue about the monitors as my machine runs 5. lol
05:33 Cprossu he wants all the raw video
05:33 Cprossu to call up at any time
05:33 epictang0 ok so take all that money and put it into a WD WX4000 or something
05:33 PacketHumper only reason there isn't 8 is because of desk space
05:34 epictang0 so the power supply dies and he is SOL
05:34 PacketHumper get a NAS or a SAN
05:34 Cprossu well by the time I made a decent SAN
05:34 epictang0 I have a 8TB DX4000 it works great
05:34 PacketHumper or since all the drives are ordered at the same time 2 or more fail at the same time
05:34 Cprossu we were way over 10k
05:34 epictang0 it cost me like 1300
05:34 PacketHumper slap him across the face and tell him to be reasonable.
05:34 Cprossu it's not the primary backup storage.
05:34 Cprossu it's just he wants it to be avail
05:35 PacketHumper he's begging to get robbed. lol
05:35 epictang0 lol
05:35 Cprossu it's hard for me to slap him across the face 1950 miles away
05:35 Cprossu all he wants is 'the best' whatever that is.
05:35 epictang0 right but obiviously he has no concept of single point of failure
05:35 Cprossu and xeons running at that clockrate
05:36 Cprossu are insanely expensive
05:36 Cprossu the gains vegas also get after 6 cores is not impressive.
05:36 epictang0 as i have told my clients (i deal with alot of c level types)...there is state of the art and then state of the practice...
05:36 Cprossu socket 1155 is right jolly out and dead, there are no prospects of advanced support or later speed upgrades for 1366
05:36 epictang0 he isnt running a multimillion dollar company here
05:36 Cprossu that leaves the overpriced socket 2011 right?
05:37 epictang0 yep
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05:38 epictang0 i have a couple westmere-ex that I just got in....they are 1567
05:38 epictang0 but they are 8 core
05:39 PacketHumper yah 1155 sucked to begin with
05:39 Cprossu If I were to be reasonable honestly, i'd say core i5 socket 1155 2500(non-k), a couple ssd's, 4 momentus 500gb xt's (1 spare) in raid 5, along with 16gb of ram, and a duck.
05:39 PacketHumper 1336 is too
05:39 epictang0 actually...they are E7-4860s
05:39 PacketHumper take it from me... xt hybrids don't like raid
05:39 Cprossu pity.
05:40 Cprossu I ran a couple for a while in a esata multiplier raid 0
05:40 PacketHumper the non hybrid ones do though
05:40 epictang0 i can vet that statement...
05:40 Cprossu and they seemed decent enough
05:40 * Experimentonomen yawns and gets outta bed
05:40 epictang0 the learning on the drives makes them go wonky
05:40 Cprossu that doens't surprise me
05:40 Cprossu *doesn't
05:40 Sgt_Lemming back, went and inspected the new site with some people
05:41 PacketHumper they are pretty fast without raid
05:41 epictang0 yep...i have a 750 in my thinkpad
05:41 Cprossu I like the 2.5"ers, you can stick 4 of them in a 5 1/4 bay and they are generally cheap too.
05:41 PacketHumper you said you had the video cards already?
05:41 Cprossu yeah they are just raddy 6870's
05:42 Cprossu which are generally fine for what he's doing
05:42 PacketHumper yah but retarded overkill
05:42 epictang0 lol
05:42 PacketHumper but he's already got them
05:42 Experimentonomen g'mornin lemming
05:42 Cprossu hey at $145 a pop at the time
05:42 Cprossu they aren't that bad
05:42 epictang0 no 6990s would be retarded overkill
05:42 PacketHumper lol true
05:42 Sgt_Lemming afternoon Experimentonomen
05:42 Cprossu or a 5970 for that matter
05:42 Cprossu rofl
05:42 epictang0 lol
05:42 PacketHumper and prof win7 or ultimate?
05:42 Cprossu I'd choose prof myself
05:42 PacketHumper which i'd ask why he would need ult
05:42 Cprossu he wanted ultimate =(
05:43 Cprossu he doesn't.
05:43 PacketHumper his $50
05:43 epictang0 i need ultimate for bitlocker...but that is just me
05:43 Cprossu it wasn't worth my time to argue over $50 when the case he originally wanted was $700
05:43 epictang0 i would run pro if i could
05:43 Sgt_Lemming epictang0, run pro with a self encrypting drive?
05:43 Cprossu yes it's hard to believe but I actually talked him 'down' to a lian li
05:44 PacketHumper rofl
05:44 Sgt_Lemming what case did he want Cprossu?
05:44 PacketHumper show him that 700D  you can pick them up for $150 and they are amazing
05:44 Cprossu some insane ugly ass piece of shit
05:44 epictang0 Sgt_Lemming: nah...it has to be aes 256 and there isnt a self encrypting drive that is on the approved list for my clients
05:44 Cprossu I need the drive bays though PacketHumper
05:44 Sgt_Lemming kk
05:44 * Experimentonomen drinks some weird coke with a weird flavor to it
05:44 Cprossu I want all the spinning disks to be hot swapable
05:45 Cprossu if at all possible
05:45 Cprossu I also want to 'build' in some spare drives
05:45 Cprossu if you know what I mean
05:45 epictang0 hotswap with onboard raid
05:45 epictang0 hahhah
05:45 epictang0 funny
05:45 Cprossu it's doable
05:45 Cprossu don't laugh
05:45 Cprossu I've done it before
05:45 epictang0 yeah, if you want to wait a week for the array to rebuild
05:45 Sgt_Lemming so have I
05:46 Cprossu epictang0: it's that or pay $1300 for a proper controller
05:46 Sgt_Lemming I've done hotswap with software raid happily
05:46 Cprossu it'll take a week to rebuild a 3tb drive anyway
05:46 Cprossu and I sure as FUCK
05:46 epictang0 Sgt_Lemming: with 10TB?
05:46 Cprossu don't want to do hardware raid on that stuff
05:46 Sgt_Lemming no
05:46 epictang0 exactly
05:46 Cprossu controller out and poof you're done.
05:46 epictang0 better than the mobo going
05:47 epictang0 swap it and you are back up
05:47 Cprossu not really
05:47 epictang0 yeah...really
05:47 Cprossu ....
05:47 epictang0 i have some MASSIVE raid here
05:47 Cprossu ever had a small firmware change totally hose your system epictang0?
05:47 Cprossu I have.
05:47 epictang0 that is why you buy a card like 3ware..
05:47 PacketHumper wow
05:47 epictang0 make sure they are both the same revision
05:48 epictang0 and shelf one of them
05:48 PacketHumper 6720 without gpu's and hard drives
05:48 PacketHumper 5 yr NBD warranty onsite service
05:48 epictang0 i have over 900TB on hand here...
05:48 PacketHumper that includes the perc 6 sata controller
05:48 epictang0 half of that is SSD san
05:48 Cprossu and what does your config come up to?
05:48 PacketHumper brb guys going to switch to my prime
05:48 PacketHumper $6720
05:49 Cprossu damn you epictang0 and PacketHumper some of us don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to play with =P
05:49 PacketHumper t7500 precision workstation
05:49 PacketHumper buy the hard drives seperately
05:49 epictang0 nice...i am tempted to pick one of those up
05:49 PacketHumper you can get it cheaper if you call dell but my dell rep is asleep
05:49 Cprossu not that it matters, but the psu as proprietary on that fucker as other Dell's?
05:50 PacketHumper no
05:50 Cprossu good.
05:50 PacketHumper well yah
05:50 epictang0 is that the swappable one?
05:50 PacketHumper connectors
05:50 PacketHumper yah
05:50 epictang0 nice
05:50 epictang0 slide out...slide in...
05:50 Cprossu I hate the old precision workstations with the PSU's built into the base
05:50 PacketHumper but it's connectors are goofy due to the storage tray connectors
05:50 PacketHumper 2 screws
05:50 Cprossu the designer of those has a special room in hell.
05:50 PacketHumper but it's 5 year next business day
05:51 Cprossu still....ick.
05:51 epictang0 PacketHumper: how much for redundants?
05:51 PacketHumper so you call dell and the next day a good is at your door to replace it
05:51 PacketHumper not offered online
05:51 PacketHumper you have to call
05:51 PacketHumper it's usually a $200 upgrade
05:51 epictang0 just curious...
05:51 epictang0 so worth it
05:51 PacketHumper agreed
05:52 PacketHumper brb, got people over so i'm going to go sit in the middle of them on my prime and talk to you guys.
05:52 PacketHumper lol
05:52 Cprossu lol
05:52 epictang0 i think one of my a/c units is going to shit itself soon...it is making all kinds of racket...
05:52 epictang0 it does not like this weather
05:53 Cprossu compressor?
05:53 Cprossu or another part of it?
05:53 epictang0 yeah...sounds like it
05:53 Druidic_Rifleman why are you running AC in the winter
05:53 Cprossu could just be a rubber foot if you luck out
05:53 Cprossu Druidic_Rifleman did you not read what he has running.
05:53 epictang0 Druidic_Rifleman: if i turn it off it gets awful warm in that room in a hurry
05:54 epictang0 hell i could heat my house and then some
05:54 Cprossu keep in mind when I did distributed computing for real, my room was 115F year round.
05:54 wannabe1987 http://shirt.woot.com/friends.aspx?utm_so​urce=Daily+Digest&amp;utm_campaign=b9f45f​8914-Daily+Digest+-+20120221+-+Shirt.Woot​&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;k=24573#tracked  an acquaintance bought one....silly skyrim
05:54 BotSteve Title: Woot® : One Day, One Deal™
05:54 Cprossu on a hot summer day the exhaust from my room was warmer than outside.
05:54 epictang0 i run ~75...
05:54 Cprossu nice and cool.
05:54 Druidic_Rifleman Skyrim meme???
05:55 epictang0 yep...i have been trying to edge it up a little
05:55 Sgt_Lemming <Cprossu> on a hot summer day the exhaust from my room was warmer than outside. <--- yes, that would make sense
05:55 epictang0 lol
05:55 epictang0 generally it is
05:55 Cprossu as in it was 110F outside
05:55 Cprossu and 115F exhaust.
05:55 Druidic_Rifleman it's kinda cool to have a game like skyrim that features the desendent of a beastialphialiac
05:56 lwq1996 night guys im going to bed
05:56 Sgt_Lemming if the exhaust from your aircon is COLDER than the outside air, either you have somehow invented an overunity machine, or it's broken
05:56 Druidic_Rifleman night lee
05:56 Cprossu the air con was putting 79F air into my room
05:56 Cprossu which was coming out of my room at 115F.
05:56 Druidic_Rifleman don't steal your girlfriends covers :P
05:56 epictang0 lol...my exhaust temp is ~60 but that is mixing with cold
05:56 Cprossu get it now?
05:57 Cprossu there is a reason I have 5 20Amp breakers just for this room.
05:57 Cprossu (each outlet is also 20A rated)
05:57 Cprossu epictang0 though you want to know something funny?
05:58 Cprossu processing power wise
05:58 Cprossu a single computer with 3 gf9800's outpowered my entire farm.
05:58 Cprossu those were the days.
05:58 Cprossu back when power was cheap.
05:58 epictang0 yeah...that shit is like 13c/kw
05:59 epictang0 my electric bill last month was ~3.5k
05:59 epictang0 and i have had cops asking if i have a grow op
05:59 Cprossu my electric bill with 29 dedicated folding@home overclocked computers was only $250/month
05:59 wannabe1987 the hell?
06:00 Cprossu it kicked ass
06:00 wannabe1987 i need to stay off facebook when i'm like this....
06:00 epictang0 "no officer, I just decided to move so I could work from home...wanna see my garage?"
06:00 epictang0 'oh, have a nice day'
06:01 Cprossu more like you moved your entire workplace server room home epictang0, only you built it the right way not the retarded way =P
06:01 epictang0 no...i have a cage at level3 in southfield as well as space at galleria in dallas
06:01 Cprossu epictang0 one thing I am happy about, my home has 3 phase service.
06:01 epictang0 so do i
06:01 epictang0 lol
06:01 Cprossu yay grandfathered in?
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06:01 Cprossu or did you have to pay through the ass to get it?
06:01 MobileHumper okly dokly
06:02 Cprossu wb
06:02 MobileHumper what are we talking about?
06:02 wannabe1987 you
06:02 epictang0 kinda...i have a pole that straddles my driveway to an industrial client...
06:02 wannabe1987 it happens
06:02 MobileHumper kinky
06:02 epictang0 they didnt charge me too much...it was like 2-3k
06:02 Cprossu epictang0's [strike]data center[/strike] home.
06:02 epictang0 with the underground that was ~50ft
06:02 Cprossu epictang0 they charge us an astronomical service charge here ontop of your bill
06:03 Cprossu unless you were grandfathered in
06:03 epictang0 i would have to take a look...it cant be that bad if i overlooked it
06:03 Cprossu so how much service you got anyway?
06:03 Cprossu and what do you use for backup power? =P
06:03 MobileHumper who?
06:03 Cprossu epictang0.
06:03 MobileHumper i'm confused
06:04 epictang0 400a
06:04 MobileHumper ah
06:04 MobileHumper i have a genny and a prius
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06:05 Cprossu something tells me that epictang0 seems to have it better off than the poor assholes at JPL.
06:05 MobileHumper lol
06:05 egrsteve night all
06:05 Cprossu night egrsteve
06:06 MobileHumper night stevee
06:06 MobileHumper wow my fingers are cold
06:06 Istas Goodnight egrsteve.
06:06 epictang0 and using a NG setup with a generac genset
06:06 MobileHumper nice
06:06 epictang0 actually...my build wasnt that expensive...like 250-300k when all was said and done
06:07 MobileHumper what transfer are you using?
06:07 Cprossu did you mean MG or NG?
06:07 hhrlisa hi
06:07 MobileHumper hi lisa
06:07 epictang0 i got alot of stuff second hand (i used to do DC engineering till that dried up)
06:07 hhrlisa hey humper
06:07 MobileHumper it's not often i'm in here and not nsfw
06:07 epictang0 NG natural gas
06:07 Cprossu oooh
06:07 epictang0 i dont have room for a diesel tank
06:08 Cprossu so your interim power is batts then?
06:08 epictang0 flywheel...
06:08 Cprossu DAMN YOU
06:08 epictang0 no room for batteries
06:08 Cprossu lol
06:08 epictang0 we are talking 600sqft
06:08 Cprossu (MG=Motor Generator is why I asked)
06:08 Cprossu I was thinking you had to have one
06:08 MobileHumper takes me 45 seconds to dump to genny
06:09 epictang0 flywheels are line interactive...
06:09 epictang0 i dont feel power outages
06:09 epictang0 it also eliminates the need something to clean up the incoming power
06:09 Cprossu epictang0 I got to work on a honeywell-bull computer that had a massive flywheel system
06:09 Cprossu was damn cool.
06:10 epictang0 they are awesome...i dont know why more people dont use them
06:10 Cprossu the bigger it is the bigger the maintenance tag for preventative is.
06:10 Cprossu what people don't realize when they buy into bigass liebert batt systems
06:10 Cprossu (heh)
06:10 epictang0 i think it has to be more the liebert/apc reps cramming lead acid down their throats
06:10 MobileHumper fly wheels are pretty slick
06:10 Cprossu exactly.
06:11 epictang0 they are really the only way to go...
06:11 Cprossu for computing, hell yes.
06:11 epictang0 plus the environmental footprint is zero
06:12 Cprossu get a good maintenance contract on it and the damn thing will be solid through the destruction of whatever building you install it in
06:12 MobileHumper lol
06:12 Cprossu though for what it's worth....
06:12 MobileHumper watching captain america again
06:12 Cprossu the system with the most online time I've ever worked on
06:12 epictang0 oh yeah...i picked this one up from an auction of a former ISP i had as a client back ~2000ish
06:12 Cprossu was battery backup until gen =(
06:13 Cprossu (old VAX 8k, 10 years uptime o_o VMS 5.9!)
06:13 epictang0 nice
06:14 Cprossu had 2 washing machine sized battery backup units attached
06:14 Cprossu funny thing about it was one was always being worked on xD
06:14 epictang0 lol...by todays standards those are small...
06:14 MobileHumper eaton 18kva units are the way to go
06:14 Cprossu yeah but by today's standards a vax 8k is a pocket calculator
06:15 epictang0 this is true
06:16 epictang0 i need to save my pennies...i want one of these switches
06:16 Druidic_Rifleman Immagine that the US marine
06:16 epictang0 playing with a client's nexus 7k
06:16 Druidic_Rifleman 's had they're own country thats sparta
06:16 Druidic_Rifleman LMAO
06:17 Cprossu epictang0: java makes me feel crappy every time I think about it
06:17 MobileHumper anyone else have a transformer prime?
06:17 Cprossu as someone who knows what a 6502 is capable of
06:17 Cprossu seeing the processing power that we have today wasted is...unbearable.
06:18 Cprossu also having our PC's on a derrivative of a cash register chip isn't ideal either
06:18 Cprossu (FFFFFFUUUU INTEL!)
06:18 epictang0 lol...
06:18 MobileHumper lol
06:18 hhrlisa Hey does anyone remember which captains blog he talks about his model trains?
06:18 Cprossu ever wonder why x86 assembler was such a freaking mess though?
06:18 epictang0 this 100Gbit stuff is LEGIT!
06:19 MobileHumper really?
06:19 Cprossu well we're all waiting for quantum dot fiber.
06:19 MobileHumper full duplex?
06:19 epictang0 yeah...
06:19 MobileHumper wow
06:19 epictang0 its...fast
06:19 MobileHumper i'm happy to have 10gbit at home. lol
06:19 epictang0 lol...i am just playing locally..
06:19 Cprossu hell I just have gb/over copper =(
06:19 epictang0 but wow..
06:20 MobileHumper my pcs are all gb
06:20 Cprossu back in the day... I ran FDDI, 10b2, and 10bt =P
06:20 epictang0 all my servers that handle vm are 10gbit to the core
06:20 Cprossu my home network was the shit heh.
06:20 MobileHumper link between iscsi switch and san is 10gb
06:20 Cprossu cabletron gear.
06:20 Cprossu I miss them.
06:20 MobileHumper lol
06:20 epictang0 i am not using a seperate switch
06:20 MobileHumper they were pretty cool
06:20 Cprossu who ended up buying the carcus of cabletron anyway?
06:20 epictang0 i have a nexus 5k
06:21 Cprossu they made damn near bulletproof machines.
06:21 Cprossu to a lesser extent firmware wise bay networks.
06:21 epictang0 yeah...i think ciena bought them
06:21 Cprossu hell I still have a centillion 100 (fitted with 80 10/100's!)
06:22 Cprossu and as for my cabletron gear I think I have a few of their switches and one of their MMAC series
06:22 epictang0 lol...i still have a Com21 (ATM) cable modem
06:22 epictang0 those were the days
06:22 Cprossu who doesn't have one of those kicking around epictang0? heh
06:22 MobileHumper lol
06:23 epictang0 I worked for Harron Communications and we built out the network in Harrison Twp/Chesterfield
06:23 epictang0 i was 15
06:23 Cprossu I'm sure you have a AUI to 10BT Allied Telesis tranceiver too though.
06:23 epictang0 and had a full ds3 all to myself
06:23 epictang0 lol
06:23 epictang0 yeah
06:23 Cprossu I never left home without one.
06:23 epictang0 i have 2 of them attached to a cisco 2500 somewhere around here
06:23 MobileHumper pron surfing at 45mbit
06:23 Cprossu man the 2500 was such a dog
06:23 Cprossu it was slow when it was new.
06:24 epictang0 but they were an upgrade from the 1600s
06:24 epictang0 haha
06:24 Cprossu I remember discovering linux and iptables when I took my CCNA training.
06:24 Cprossu remember the neutered 'cispro' models epictang0?
06:24 epictang0 vaguely...
06:24 Cprossu it was either 1/2 the nvram or 1/2 the flash rom
06:25 Cprossu I can't remember which
06:25 epictang0 ah yes
06:25 MobileHumper brb
06:25 epictang0 flash
06:25 epictang0 err
06:25 epictang0 wasnt the flash on pccards for those
06:25 Cprossu http://lh5.ggpht.com/_Vz8H855ElJQ/S1PbM_e​-bzI/AAAAAAAACYo/ovT__xqoJUY/DSC01129.JPG
06:25 Cprossu nope epictang0
06:25 Cprossu no such luck
06:26 Cprossu it was on like a customized simm thing
06:26 epictang0 oh right!
06:26 epictang0 my school was using them to the prem
06:26 Cprossu I still have nightmares
06:26 Cprossu about how long it took to converge 6 of them
06:27 Cprossu or the signature noise it's 60mm fan made when it's bearings went out
06:27 epictang0 lol...life before bgp...memories
06:28 Cprossu it was cool man we were using EGP and RIP for everything
06:29 epictang0 and that shit wasnt even rip v2
06:29 epictang0 all net or no net
06:29 Cprossu I think it was v2
06:30 Cprossu trying to remember
06:30 Cprossu yeah when I took my cisco course I am damn sure...we had rip v2
06:30 epictang0 v2 didnt come out till 1998
06:31 epictang0 rfc 2453
06:31 Cprossu I think I took my course either early 1999 or late 1998
06:31 Cprossu I'd have to check
06:31 Cprossu either way the web curriculum was v 1.01
06:31 epictang0 2453 was ratified nov 1998
06:32 epictang0 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2453
06:32 BotSteve Title: RFC 2453 - RIP Version 2
06:32 Cprossu been a long time though (at least for me)
06:33 hhrlisa Does anyone watch the blog regularly
06:33 Cprossu of course people here do
06:34 hhrlisa well i need to find the one where chris talks about his model trains
06:34 Cprossu it wasn't _that_ long ago
06:34 hhrlisa I know. but i don't rmember the date
06:35 Cprossu iirc after xmas, before now.
06:35 Cprossu that really doesn't help does it? xD
06:36 hhrlisa lol nope
06:36 hhrlisa i new it was between then and now..
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06:38 epictang0 hrmm...didnt take notes sorry
06:39 hhrlisa its ok
06:39 Cprossu I think I can at least narrow it to between december 25-jan 25'th
06:39 hhrlisa you sure?
06:40 Cprossu committing you to that would be a bad idea considering that's like 20 potential videos to go through
06:40 hhrlisa lol i know
06:42 Av_Nekoroms morning everyone
06:43 Cprossu I think I may be wrong.. hummm
06:44 epictang0 watching Sara Bareilles do Ceelo Greene...i am impressed
06:46 Av_Nekoroms still tired after sleeping..
06:46 epictang0 go back to sleep?
06:47 Cprossu lol
06:47 epictang0 thats what i do...yesterday i took a catch up day...slept for like 18 hours total
06:47 Av_Nekoroms nah i'll put some mythbusters on and go be a couch potato :)
06:48 Cprossu yikes.
06:48 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​Lw3k3Un9pNk&amp;feature=related
06:48 BotSteve Title: ARC FLASH-Backhoe vs 13200 volts! - YouTube
06:48 epictang0 made wifey stay home from work and watch kid0
06:54 epictang0 oh shit...i just remembered I have RSA next week...and had no time to get my alcohol tolerance up...
06:54 epictang0 that is like defcon
06:54 epictang0 one has to prepare for these things
06:54 Cprossu defcon needs alchohol to deal with all the god damn want-to-be's
06:55 epictang0 not the crowd i roll with
06:55 Cprossu good deal.
06:55 hhrlisa GAH!!!!!
06:55 Cprossu a lot of the lecturers at defcon talk a lot of hot air
06:55 Av_Nekoroms not bad at all http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM1z44RVauA
06:55 BotSteve Title: Elation Platinum Beam 5R - YouTube
06:55 Cprossu so it lost my respect a long while ago
06:55 epictang0 we had the fed panel halted because we were playing with rfid, and happened to get a couple fed badges in the process...lol
06:56 epictang0 they went sheet white
06:56 epictang0 noobs
06:56 Cprossu well yeah epictang0 the only one who things rfid is in anyway secure are the marketing people who work for the company.
06:56 Av_Nekoroms too bad those are not led movers :=
06:57 Cprossu seriously though epictang0.
06:57 epictang0 we have fun, but I get alot of my fed contracts from there and RSA
06:57 epictang0 the hacks are the ones without the black badges
06:58 MobileHumper i am in serious need of tacos
06:58 epictang0 in my group we have 7 phds and 4 more that should have them
06:58 epictang0 including myself
06:58 Cprossu btw epictang0 funny pm for you
06:58 MobileHumper i should have a phds
06:59 epictang0 i should have like 4 degrees but i chose to make some bank
06:59 MobileHumper i want a phd2
06:59 Cprossu I'm going to go for one in physics...
06:59 wannabe1987 Sgt_Lemming: i like the article
06:59 Cprossu once I am 60 I'll get it.
06:59 epictang0 lol
06:59 epictang0 i dont have time
06:59 Sgt_Lemming thanks
07:00 Sgt_Lemming been updating and editing it a bit wannabe1987
07:00 epictang0 last year i was flying cross country at least once a week
07:00 wannabe1987 cool.  i enjoyed the read (thought i should tell you)
07:00 epictang0 Cprossu: PM?
07:00 Cprossu private message/irc query
07:00 Sgt_Lemming LSL is 80'000 square feet right?
07:00 MobileHumper brb horse has to poo
07:00 epictang0 i didnt get anything
07:01 wannabe1987 yay horse!
07:01 wannabe1987 i think so, but i don't really know
07:01 Cprossu hrmmm odd.
07:01 wannabe1987 i know its fucking huge
07:01 wannabe1987 ok.  done with the weird/awkward vids on yt
07:01 Cprossu yay you're running a real client at least
07:01 Cprossu (technically the only real client)
07:02 epictang0 lol...i run it as an rt...no way i am bringing that irc crap past my firewall
07:02 Cprossu haha
07:03 epictang0 it works well with tmux
07:04 Cprossu it works well with a wyse 50 too heh
07:23 MobileHumper i'm going to jump over to nsfw so i can be me
07:23 wannabe1987 lol ok
07:27 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr0JpZ​80-lE&amp;feature=endscreen&amp;NR=1
07:27 BotSteve Title: She blowed up real good - YouTube
07:29 Cprossu well I am out
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07:31 MoxieMike_ funny how the fire got much bigger as the fire department showed up
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07:42 Druidic_Rifleman we should thumper a computer thats on and running
07:43 Experimentonomen how do u mean ?
07:43 Experimentonomen chris gemini'd a running laptop and it live to tell the story, until he threw it on the floor and broke the screen off
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07:45 wannabe1987 YAY YOU TALKED
07:45 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
07:45 Experimentonomen now u see why i dont talk, noone can make out a word i say
07:45 Druidic_Rifleman thats gemini
07:45 Experimentonomen it all sound likehgrwlfgahyukdhsidagkhvljgvklöwez
07:45 Druidic_Rifleman thumper is thumper
07:45 wannabe1987 i understood you
07:46 wannabe1987 you dont sound old
07:48 Experimentonomen i told u i sound like 5 year old kid
07:50 wannabe1987 no, more older than 5....too smart to be five :P
07:50 Experimentonomen uhhh
07:50 wannabe1987 what?
07:51 Experimentonomen according to ppl, my intelligence level would place my in my moms belly
07:51 Experimentonomen me*
07:51 hhrlisa well those people are obviously jealous
07:51 wannabe1987 who would these people be?
07:51 Experimentonomen most of the internet
07:51 wannabe1987 see?  i'm not the only one who thinks you're smart
07:52 wannabe1987 psh. its the internet.  don't beleive the downers
07:53 Experimentonomen my clas mates through 15 years of school included
07:53 wannabe1987 you know more about audio and hacking shit together than i do....
07:54 Experimentonomen wannabe1987, a braindead monkey can easily do the dirt simple crap i do
08:00 wannabe1987 Experimentonomen: you're a wonderful person, no matter what you think, ok?
08:01 Experimentonomen :/
08:01 hhrlisa no :/ face. just :) face
08:02 wannabe1987 humor me, at least?
08:03 Sgt_Lemming poor AGC on the camera in that clip is having a hard time of it
08:05 Experimentonomen .cookie hhrlisa and wannabe1987
08:05 BotSteve Here you go, hhrlisa and wannabe1987, I baked you a kleicha cookie!
08:05 hhrlisa yay
08:05 wannabe1987 oooo islamic cookies!
08:05 Experimentonomen man most cookies BotSteve bakes i dunno even what they are :/
08:05 wannabe1987 its because its middle eastern.
08:05 wannabe1987 .cookie Experimentonomen
08:05 BotSteve Here you go, Experimentonomen, I baked you a snickerdoodle cookie!
08:06 wannabe1987 and  that one i think is american
08:06 * Experimentonomen listens to MS Sam rock out
08:07 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNAdtkSjSps
08:07 BotSteve Title: Eisenfunk - Pong - YouTube
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08:09 Experimentonomen g'mornin Electricguy
08:11 wannabe1987 Electricguy!!!!!!!!!
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08:14 hhrlisa Seroster
08:14 Seroster Ello
08:14 * angy fondles Seroster
08:14 Experimentonomen urk
08:14 Seroster Eloo angy
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08:33 Seroster Ownage; http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp​;feature=endscreen&amp;v=XbG6f0M_wCs
08:33 BotSteve Title: Messing with street performer - YouTube
08:48 Electricguy wannabe-zz!!!!!!
08:49 * Experimentonomen is beating the shit outta that amp he put together yesterday
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09:01 * Electricguy friend-hugz hhrlisa
09:01 hhrlisa yay
09:02 Electricguy :)
09:09 Electricguy how are you guys doing?
09:11 hhrlisa how do i change my name?
09:11 Electricguy /nick <whatever name>
09:12 Electricguy :P
09:23 Experimentonomen there we go most of a surround system hooked up, tubeamp for center, lafet amp for main channels and the pos amp for sub :P
09:31 Experimentonomen but i only have one movie with 5.1 sound and its worse audio quality than a phone
09:36 Seroster Audiophile...
09:36 angy audiophile don't mix amps to have the best sound
09:38 tehdark45 audiophiles are a silly bunch
09:39 tehdark45 oh noes, my mids are of by 0.001db, my life is over
09:39 tehdark45 off*
09:40 tehdark45 lol
09:40 Seroster Aint that right, Experimentonomen?
09:42 tehdark45 what is up IRCers
09:43 PacketHumper not much
09:43 PacketHumper just searching for a particular CB
09:43 Electricguy i'm trying to totally disable the screensaver on a nokia N95 to turn it into a IRC monitor
09:44 Seroster It's over fifty years since we landed on the moon.    How come there isn't anything on it already?
09:44 Electricguy yeah and WHY can't they go there now?
09:44 Seroster Twelve dudes have landed on that rock
09:44 Seroster .c 12/7000000000
09:44 BotSteve 1.71428571 × 10^(-9)
09:45 Seroster That's 0.0000000017% of humanity
09:45 Experimentonomen Electricguy, to do that u may in worst case have to go into the code of the firmware itself, but knowing your skills, u'll have it done in no time
09:46 tehdark45 PacketHumper, what info are you looking for?
09:46 Electricguy there seem to be some application to override the regular settings
09:46 Experimentonomen Seroster, audiophiles are idiots that pay ferrari prices for stuff like audio cables
09:47 Electricguy i paid 2 bucks for fucking expensive speaker cable on second hand.. XD
09:47 Electricguy it actually made the sound a bit better
09:47 Seroster No it didnt.
09:47 angy it ain't
09:47 Electricguy but it's the jump from 0.5mm^2 to 2.5mm^2 cable that did it
09:48 tehdark45 Experimentonomen, http://www.audioadvisor.com/​prodinfo.asp?number=AQNRG10
09:48 BotSteve Title: AudioQuest - NRG-10 X3 IEC - AC Power Cable-Audio Advisor
09:48 tehdark45 lolol
09:48 Electricguy had too fucking flimsy cables before so the sub sounded a bit mushy
09:49 tehdark45 electricguy, just get somthing with an awg below 20 and you will be fine :P
09:49 Electricguy lol
09:49 Electricguy depends on the cable length and power! ;)
09:50 tehdark45 electricguy, im talking audio cable
09:50 tehdark45 :P
09:50 Electricguy speaker or line level?
09:50 Electricguy i'm talking speaker cable
09:50 tehdark45 the one that sends the music from the amp
09:50 tehdark45 ;P
09:50 angy use that cable https://imgur.com/0Ww8R
09:50 BotSteve Title: imgur: the simple image sharer
09:51 Electricguy and, the cables between the caps and the amp itself inside the amp are fat.. so why not use a fat speaker cable?
09:51 Druidic_Rifleman hmmmmmmm
09:51 Electricguy i got some german quality really expensive oehlbach cable :P
09:51 tehdark45 Electricguy, i said use something lower than 20awg = thicker >.<
09:51 tehdark45 :P
09:52 Electricguy yes, and still, it depends on the output power of your amp, the speaker impedance, cable length and stuff
09:53 tehdark45 yeah but you said flimsy, so i said get thicker lol
09:53 Electricguy and that's what i did...
09:54 Seroster When you describe sound as "mushy" you are an audiophile.
09:54 tehdark45 lol
09:54 Electricguy no.. XD
09:54 Electricguy if you hear the sub being sloppy and mushy, you know something about audio quality.. XD
09:54 Electricguy logitech fag! ;)
09:55 tehdark45 $1000 power cable fag :P
09:55 Electricguy but i only gave 2 bucks for them
09:55 tehdark45 not retail ;)
09:55 Electricguy i would never fucking ever buy them for the full price
09:56 Electricguy i bet tehdark45 got a logitech system or some other shitty 2.1 system too... :P
09:56 tehdark45 I dont even have an audio system
09:56 tehdark45 :P
09:56 Electricguy O_O
09:57 tehdark45 I'm 2.0 ONBOARD soundcard
09:57 tehdark45 u jelly?
09:57 tehdark45 yeah i thought so
09:57 Electricguy onborad soundcards sound like a choked donkey..
09:58 tehdark45 ok electricguy, send me the monies
09:58 tehdark45 ill be happy to get real audio
09:58 tehdark45 :P
09:59 Electricguy i got a 2001 sound blaster audigy platinum soundcard
10:00 Electricguy u jelly?
10:00 tehdark45 lol i got alienware
10:00 tehdark45 yeah now you are jelly
10:00 tehdark45 :P
10:00 Electricguy lol..
10:00 tehdark45 (Discalimer: I am not retarded enough to have alenware)
10:00 Electricguy even if it's old, it outright kicks the living fucking shit out of your onboard crap.. xD
10:01 tehdark45 as i said, send the monies :P
10:01 Electricguy i got my soundcard for free.. :P
10:01 Electricguy so can you, if you know the right people :)
10:01 tehdark45 ok I know you
10:01 tehdark45 so you can send it
10:01 tehdark45 kthx
10:01 tehdark45 :P
10:02 Electricguy why would i?
10:02 angy you got the autdigy ES in fact, they are the same cards
10:02 tehdark45 i duno
10:02 tehdark45 lol
10:03 Electricguy audigy ES?
10:03 Electricguy there is no such model
10:03 angy SE
10:03 angy I misse typed
10:03 angy no ES
10:03 angy you made me borked
10:03 Seroster Saw this thing that you are supposed to put around your waterpipe, and its supposed to break down lime in the water with high frequency electromagnetism. It set off my bullshit alarm in record time, but I wonder, does such devices work?
10:03 Electricguy the SE model looks like a very stripped down model of mine
10:03 Electricguy without the ability to connect a audigy drive to it
10:04 angy yours is a ES only with external instead of internal
10:04 Electricguy ah
10:04 Electricguy SE!!!!
10:04 Electricguy get a new keyboard! :P
10:04 Seroster Saw this thing that you are supposed to put around your waterpipe, and its supposed to break down lime in the water with high frequency electromagnetism. It set off my bullshit alarm in record time, but I wonder, does such devices work?
10:04 angy not SE, ES the 2 model exists
10:04 Electricguy i also got a audigy 2 ZS soundcard laying around
10:04 tehdark45 Seroster, no, it wont do shit. Where will the lime go?
10:05 tehdark45 it doesnt zap it out of there
10:05 Seroster Supposedly broken down into other compounds
10:05 tehdark45 Seroster, that is called radiation, lol
10:05 Seroster I think the theory is you change lime into a more soluble mineral
10:06 Electricguy some pics on my new komputz0r case http://imgur.com/a/kEU5q
10:06 BotSteve Title: EG's new computer case - Imgur
10:07 tehdark45 Electricguy, who is looking at your photos O_o 1.8GB
10:07 Electricguy no idea to be honest..
10:07 tehdark45 lol yep
10:07 tehdark45 It's your stalker
10:07 Electricguy took a better pic of my stereo.. http://i.imgur.com/uYPeM.jpg
10:08 tehdark45 Electricguy, the audiophile hipster :P
10:08 Seroster tehdark45, http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=sv​&amp;tl=en&amp;js=n&amp;prev=_t&amp;hl=sv&a​mp;ie=UTF-8&amp;layout=2&amp;eotf=1&amp;u=h​ttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.clasohlson.se%2FProduct%2FP​roduct.aspx%3Fid%3D164692035&amp;act=url
10:08 BotSteve Title: Google Översätt
10:08 Electricguy nah.. i just like a clean setup :)
10:08 tehdark45 Seroster, i has google translate
10:08 tehdark45 :P
10:08 Seroster ....Derp
10:08 tehdark45 electricguyt, the turntable >.<
10:08 Seroster Thing is it's 80 bucks
10:08 Electricguy what about it?
10:09 Electricguy nothing wrong with a turntable..
10:09 tehdark45 Electricguy, hipsters use vinyl
10:09 Electricguy for the interested one, some pics of the inside of the bottom amp.. http://imgur.com/a/raCu0#0
10:09 BotSteve Title: EG's gainclone Amp - Imgur
10:10 Electricguy peaople that like the sound of analog recordings use vinyl
10:10 Electricguy people*
10:11 Electricguy tehdark45, it wouldn't surprise me if you are using windows media player too! ;)
10:11 tehdark45 i duno Seroster, if it is not too expensive it is wrth a shot
10:11 tehdark45 Ewww
10:11 Seroster At just sixty nine nintety nine!
10:11 tehdark45 VLC bro
10:11 tehdark45 or winamp
10:11 Electricguy vls is pretty crued, but it can take a lot of formats
10:11 tehdark45 either or
10:11 Electricguy winamp is decent
10:12 tehdark45 I do use XP, though
10:12 Electricguy same here
10:12 tehdark45 pro?
10:12 Electricguy ofc
10:12 tehdark45 lol
10:12 Electricguy and customized with different skin, different cursor set, different icons and stuff
10:12 tehdark45 i have a ux theme
10:12 Seroster http://forums.digitalspy.co​.uk/showthread.php?t=360570 this looks like a comprehensible thing
10:12 BotSteve Title: Water conditioner?? - General Discussion - Digital Spy Forums
10:14 tehdark45 Seroster, I have a failsafe idea. Move
10:14 tehdark45 :P
10:15 einball goodmorning
10:15 angy hello dweiball
10:15 Electricguy 'lo einball
10:15 einball lunch for today: apple and coffee
10:16 tehdark45 it is the german guy
10:16 tehdark45 hides
10:16 Electricguy what my XP looks like http://i.imgur.com/GJhDg.jpg
10:16 Electricguy split over 2 screens
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10:17 tehdark45 you are a couple releases behind electricguy :P
10:17 Electricguy releases of what?
10:18 einball grr
10:18 einball that guy gets kicked out of teh internets
10:18 einball all teh time :(
10:18 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/IeiyS <-- my stereo + a highly temporary sub test setup
10:18 BotSteve Title: stereo - Imgur
10:18 tehdark45 Ubuntu (the skin)
10:18 Electricguy it's some custom skin someone made for XP.. haven't checked for newer ones
10:19 tehdark45 that is like 9.04 look i think
10:19 tehdark45 lol
10:19 Electricguy i have no idea as i don't use linux
10:21 tehdark45 We know your name now :P
10:22 Electricguy i can give you my full name if you want..
10:22 tehdark45 also lol MSN
10:22 Electricguy so?
10:22 tehdark45 It is so bloated
10:23 Electricguy it works..
10:23 tehdark45 so does IRC
10:23 Electricguy yes
10:23 Electricguy some of my friends don't use irc
10:23 tehdark45 or facebook chat
10:23 tehdark45 lolol
10:23 Electricguy facebook chat sucks balls
10:23 tehdark45 indeed
10:24 Seroster cya
10:24 * angy fondles Seroster
10:25 tehdark45 bye Seroster
10:25 tehdark45 angy, that is not appropriate :P
10:28 Electricguy what is that multi desktop cube in ubuntu called?
10:28 Electricguy can't remember..
10:29 Electricguy 3d virtual desktop it seems
10:29 tehdark45 Compiz
10:30 Electricguy ahh
10:30 Experimentonomen around 90 watts into 2 ohms is fucking brutal!!! :o
10:30 Electricguy 20kW into 1 Ohm is brutal
10:30 tehdark45 compiz fusion to be exact
10:31 Electricguy Yodm 3D does the same, but for windws
10:33 Experimentonomen Electricguy, thats over 1600Amps at 12V, since 1 ohm sounds like a car audio system
10:33 Electricguy yes
10:33 Experimentonomen i wonder if a true 20kW RMS car amplifier even exists
10:34 Experimentonomen 1600A at 12V kinda requires a cable the diameter of the car itself
10:34 Electricguy rockford have made a model that gives 20kW
10:34 BitViper someone needs to switch the live cam to the weather view, its awsome weather today
10:34 Electricguy some hybrid thing
10:35 Experimentonomen BitViper, i think weather view has been taken down
10:37 BitViper Experimentonomen : awwww, why would they do that ?
10:38 Experimentonomen dunno
10:38 Electricguy LOL! i got a desktop cube in XP
10:40 Electricguy hrm, gotta reboot
10:40 HghMan|zZz Morning
10:41 tehdark45 it is a HighMan
10:41 HighMan :P
10:45 BitViper http://woodtv.com/subindex/traffic/traffic_cams
10:45 BotSteve Title: Traffic Cams - WOODTV.com and WOOD TV8: Grand Rapids, Michigan
10:49 Coderjoe damn snow
10:50 BitViper Coderjoe : beautiful weather =)
10:52 Coderjoe i wonder how long it'll take to get some of the newer traffic cams into the system (such as at 44th street and 196 in grandville)
10:53 BitViper about the time theyre outdated
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10:55 Experimentonomen wb Electricguy
11:05 * Druidic_Rifleman yawns is so bored at night
11:05 Experimentonomen dru, well do something then ;)
11:05 masterofmonks Druidic_Rifleman, It is certainly boring.
11:05 Druidic_Rifleman i'd set rocks on fire and Shape red hot metal
11:05 Druidic_Rifleman but that pisses my neghbours off abit
11:06 masterofmonks Er, morning
11:06 masterofmonks Not boring.
11:07 masterofmonks Druidic_Rifleman, I think that one of my medium term projects will be an 8 foot boar spear.
11:07 Druidic_Rifleman NICE
11:07 Experimentonomen http://soundcloud.com/experim​entonomen/audiotestwithsub-1 <-- my headphones cannot reproduce the LFE in the first minute of that clip
11:07 BotSteve Title: Audiotestwithsub by Experimentonomen on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
11:07 Druidic_Rifleman I want a Wavy lancea!!!
11:07 Druidic_Rifleman also
11:07 masterofmonks Druidic_Rifleman, Well this one will be for actual use.
11:08 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hClyvvZh3w same
11:08 BotSteve Title: The Blood of Cu Chulainn - YouTube
11:08 Druidic_Rifleman my forging music
11:09 masterofmonks Druidic_Rifleman, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zf2aIVKp1OY
11:09 BotSteve Title: Apocalyptica "Hall of The Mountain King" (official full length live video) - YouTube
11:09 Druidic_Rifleman Yeah not very smithy music cool though none the less
11:10 Experimentonomen for me irl, the first minute of that clis was a ground shaking rumble
11:10 Experimentonomen and that from two 8" dayton audio subs with a 90 watt amp
11:10 masterofmonks Druidic_Rifleman, Adn this is why haveing different opinions is good....
11:10 HighMan .log
11:10 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
11:11 masterofmonks Because I would not have called yours forging music either.
11:11 masterofmonks HighMan, nobody talked about you.
11:11 HighMan masterofmonks, I'm checking something
11:11 masterofmonks It's probably not there.
11:13 Druidic_Rifleman it'sceltic and the irish gods are why i learned to smith
11:13 Druidic_Rifleman well decided to learn
11:14 masterofmonks Druidic_Rifleman, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIBeYoP9Wi0
11:14 BotSteve Title: Rammstein - Sonne - YouTube
11:16 HighMan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrIYT-MrVaI
11:17 BotSteve Title: Edvard Grieg, In the Hall of the Mountain King from "Peer Gynt" - YouTube
11:17 Druidic_Rifleman Could forge to that i never saw a music video
11:17 * Druidic_Rifleman watches youtube intently
11:20 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​XHUsIU161w4&amp;feature=related
11:20 BotSteve Title: Rammstein-Feuer Frei! - YouTube
11:25 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=​IqVqCSLZL1s&amp;feature=related another good one maybe not for smithing
11:25 BotSteve Title: This Life (Sons of Anarchy Theme Song) - Curtis Stigers & The Forest Rangers - YouTube
11:25 Druidic_Rifleman but a good one to just keep pushing through hardship
11:28 Druidic_Rifleman i kinda look like jax
11:29 Druidic_Rifleman I am trying to figureout a way to improve my medival armsskills after searching through thousands of links on Sleadge hammer work out videos I finally found a reason as to what it helps with
11:34 BitViper ugh, this snowstorm smells really wierd, stuck my head out the window for some fresh air, cant even identify the smell
11:36 Sgt_Lemming BitViper, you wanna read that essay or not?
11:37 BitViper Sgt_Lemming : probably not, too many other things to do, im like a week behind
11:37 BitViper or so
11:37 Electricguy micro bluetooth keyboards are fun :P
11:38 Electricguy the one im typing on now is like 2*5 inches big
11:39 Electricguy this  thing http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2010/08/23/​promini-wireless-bluetooth-keyboard-1_kwcnf_65.jpg
11:46 Druidic_Rifleman what essay?
11:47 Experimentonomen 121 watts absolute max output power RMS into 2 ohms and after a few minutes the power transformer smells very unhappy :P
11:47 BitViper Experimentonomen : moar power !!!
11:49 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/URNt5.jpg <-- transformer is around 250-300VA
11:49 Electricguy and that pile with toroids on the floor? can't use any of them?
11:50 Experimentonomen when this amp clips it doesent just flatten the tops but instead introduces like a step, but i guess that was because i used 50Hz test tone so it lined up with the 50Hz ripple from the power supply
11:50 BitViper if he cant i have a friend who would kill for them
11:50 Experimentonomen Electricguy, yup i could
11:51 Electricguy do it. and get a non smelly amp
11:55 Electricguy i want a pair of identical half bad ass AGP graphics cards
11:55 Electricguy i got a ASRock mobo with dual AGP slots
11:55 Electricguy would be fun to run dual GPUs in it
11:55 Electricguy maybe 2 different ones work too
11:55 Electricguy as it's not a crossfire config
12:05 Experimentonomen ok 722 watt peak output into 2 ohms, shortly after the test, the fuse blew and the amp reads dead short between the DC buses in both directions
12:05 HighMan gtg
12:05 HighMan gtgEscuela
12:08 Experimentonomen TIP35/36 sucks :P SOA is like 1A DC at 50V, and i pushed them to 3.8A each at 50Hz, so yea
12:08 Experimentonomen well now i dont need to worry about those anymore
12:31 Experimentonomen only one of each was bad, but im gonna can all of them anyways
12:34 angy .win3
12:41 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/k54wz.jpg <-- i think im gonna hook this up, simulation shows that at same voltage and same load at same power i will still be within SOA of the devices
12:48 egrsteve morning
12:48 angy .cookie egrsteve
12:48 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a peanut butter cookie!
12:49 egrsteve thanks angy
12:49 Experimentonomen g'day egrsteve
12:49 egrsteve class in I and I want to go back to bed
12:49 egrsteve *in 5
12:49 angy then go back to bed :)
12:49 angy with a nice fluffy pillow
12:49 egrsteve sleep in class?
12:50 egrsteve always an option
12:50 angy that is doable
12:50 angy I want less windows in my next office to be able to sleep
12:50 egrsteve that and it is sleeting out this morning
12:50 egrsteve so no corner office for you
12:51 angy corner office, but outside wall corner :)
12:51 angy only two sides toward the office
12:51 angy other offices
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12:52 angy with my office mate, we're high on the list to get the office at the far most side of the building and the only one that has an outside window
12:53 egrsteve nice
12:54 * egrsteve watched snow fall and heads to class
12:54 egrsteve *watches
12:54 egrsteve it's going to be an interesting day
12:55 angy watch heads falls in class
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13:00 Talos452 sup folks?
13:03 wannabe-zz hi
13:03 Talos452 how goes?
13:05 wannabe-zz i dunno.  i just woke up
13:05 angy always the worst part of the day
13:06 Talos452 yeah, i hear ya there
13:06 Talos452 i've been at work for almost 2 hours now
13:06 Talos452 but i have 6 days off coming up and this makes me happy
13:08 Talos452 i think the geek group should make a dance video to this song
13:08 Talos452 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94IdL3djJVU
13:08 BotSteve Title: Detroit Grand Pubahs - Sandwiches - YouTube
13:09 Sgt_Lemming .logs
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13:16 Experimentonomen g'mornin miss wannabe1987
13:16 Experimentonomen g'day hhrlisa
13:16 wannabe1987 morning.  why is it snowing?
13:16 Experimentonomen .cake wannabe1987 and hhrlisa
13:16 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987 and hhrlisa, I baked you an italian orange and vanilla cake!
13:16 hhrlisa nice
13:17 wannabe1987 there.  i attempted to push off my cleaning "job" till tomorrow cuz of snow
13:21 wannabe1987 fyi: if you leave on vacation for THREE WEEKS don't forget to UNPLUG or TURN OFF your alarm clock.  grrrrr
13:21 wannabe1987 thankfully they come back today....
13:26 Talos452 Gonna be a big snow this weekend :/
13:26 Talos452 And im supposed to go out of town
13:26 Talos452 not likely going to happen now
13:27 * Experimentonomen wanna see pics of hos the wannabe1987 lives ;)
13:28 wannabe1987 Talos452: we're (GR) getting the snow right now....
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13:28 wannabe1987 .weather kgrr
13:28 BotSteve Overcast ☁, 30.2℉ (-1℃), 29.38in (992mb), Snow, Freezing Fog, Gentle breeze 10kt (↑) - KGRR, 13:00Z
13:28 Experimentonomen g'day oo7sweden
13:28 angy I want snow, lots of snow
13:29 Talos452 We're supposed to have blizzard like conditions
13:29 oo7sweden good day Experimentonomen
13:29 Druidic_Rifleman ugh snow i don't wanna go outin it
13:30 wannabe1987 awww it doesn't say how many inches we've had...
13:30 wannabe1987 druid: agreed. but i work later
13:31 hhrlisa i have about 6 inches of snow here
13:31 wannabe1987 it shouldn't be this hard to do stuff on this computer!
13:31 wannabe1987 without things breaking perferably
13:35 * BitViper sneezes, breaking everything
13:36 * BitViper sneezes again re-breaking everything
13:36 wannabe1987 lol  bless you
13:37 Experimentonomen BitViper's humor is... well... special ;)
13:37 wannabe1987 thats cuz he himself is special :)
13:37 BitViper Experimentonomen : its not my humor, its my sneezes :)
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13:52 Electricguy ok, took apart the whole rear gear assembly on my bike, changed the sprocket assembly and put it all back together
13:52 slewfoot I need to get my bike into the lab
13:56 Istas Electricguy: Motorcycle or bicycle?
13:56 Electricguy bicycle
13:56 Istas Cool. I haven't done that to a bike yet.
13:56 Electricguy i should have taken it apart a long time ago.. was like a 2mm layer of tar and gravel on everything
13:57 Istas Yeesh.
13:58 Experimentonomen sneezeviper ;)
13:59 * angy offers an handkerchief to BitViper
13:59 BitViper angy : unless that's a carbon fibre hanky it aint gonna help
14:03 angy I can make you a carbon fiber one if you want
14:03 BitViper lol, well since i never use a hanky it'd be pointless, but might be cool LOL
14:04 Experimentonomen i dont think carbon fibre would work very well :/
14:05 angy if you don't cure it, it's just cloth
14:05 Istas I very much enjoy winter, but I will also enjoy having places available for me to ride my bicycle again.
14:26 astro73|alice OMG
14:26 astro73|alice SO
14:26 astro73|alice MUCH
14:26 astro73|alice SNOW
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14:28 BitViper just flurries
14:28 astro73|alice i was doing 30MPH on the interstate
14:29 BitViper thats because michigan drivers are chicken and/or dont know how to drive
14:29 BitViper im sooo tempted to come down to gr today just for the fun drive
14:29 astro73|alice no, that's because it was coming down so thick
14:29 astro73|alice and i had a hard time getting traction
14:29 astro73|alice nvm stopping
14:30 BitViper meh, i drive on solid glare ice
14:30 BitViper freaks out passengers :)
14:30 BitViper but then I wouldnt even consider driving on stuff like that in an automatic transmission vehicle
14:31 egrsteve roads are messy in GR
14:31 BitViper egrsteve : you mean fun
14:31 egrsteve that too
14:32 BitViper good day for ynos to drive the bike
14:32 egrsteve only saw 6 or so cars in the ditch
14:32 egrsteve people are slacking
14:32 egrsteve how are we going to me qoata?
14:32 BitViper egrsteve : give it a couple hours
14:32 egrsteve fine, I will wait for another count
14:33 angy clone yourself
14:33 egrsteve how will that help?
14:34 egrsteve although that was 6ish one only one road
14:35 egrsteve did I kill chat?
14:36 * egrsteve is hungry
14:37 Sgt_Lemming night all
14:38 * Electricguy give egrsteve some noms
14:38 Electricguy gives*
14:38 Electricguy night night Sgt_Lemming
14:38 egrsteve thanks
14:38 slewfoot Someone needs to invent a way to download a pizza
14:38 egrsteve and night Sgt_Lemming
14:38 Electricguy a pizza printer would be cool
14:38 egrsteve that sounds like a good idea, a food printer
14:39 Electricguy yeah :P
14:39 Electricguy and a USB beer tap
14:39 slewfoot quick - lets patent it!
14:39 Electricguy lulz
14:40 slewfoot we need a beer tap in the lab
14:41 astro73|alice really? i'm not so sure about that...
14:41 slewfoot lol
14:41 Electricguy Fuck you hyundai! Y U NO use vesa standard on the back of your flatscreens?!?!?
14:41 astro73|alice plus, it's meant to be family friendly. Conservatives can be weird about that
14:42 Electricguy family friendly? GET BODEN OUTTA THERE!
14:42 slewfoot beer is family friendly - think of how many familys it's helped create.
14:42 Electricguy xD
14:43 slewfoot who's all headed to the lab this weekend?
14:45 BitViper not this weekend, but quite possibly next week
14:46 slewfoot I'm hoping to ge the sign fully operational this weekend
14:46 BitViper where are you at ?
14:46 astro73|alice Electricguy: that is the problem...
14:46 slewfoot I live in Grand Haven
14:46 astro73|alice but he keeps trying to get in school groups
14:47 slewfoot oh - with the sign - ha
14:47 slewfoot string handling in VB sucks
14:47 slewfoot I'm about ready to through a computer
14:48 BitViper slewfoot : youre closer than I am, I want to make a proper api for the sign, then your prog AND everything else can access it
14:48 BitViper if i get down there next week maybe we can work on it together
14:48 slewfoot let me know when you plan to be around, I'll drop in after work
14:49 slewfoot I'll be in the lab maybe tonight for a bit and most of the day tomorrow
14:49 BitViper slewfoot : what's the physical connection to the sign ? rs232 ?
14:49 slewfoot rs232 or 485 with a 6p6c connector
14:50 slewfoot I have it set for 232 right now
14:50 yNos so whats going on today?
14:50 BotSteve ynos: I have the following messages for you:
14:50 BotSteve At 23 Feb 23:00Z, Sgt_Lemming asked me to tell ynos yeah, about 3 seconds after I posted it I realised I should put an NSFW warning on it :-D
14:50 BitViper yNos : any chance the lab has a duino and an ethernet shield ?
14:51 slewfoot I have a duino at home I can bring in
14:51 BitViper yNos : whats going on ? have you looked outside ?
14:51 slewfoot no ethernet shield though
14:51 slewfoot really - need a rs485 adapter for one of the PC's in the lab
14:51 BitViper slewfoot : yeah the ethernet is the thing ... there are duino libraries for that sign interface already, add ethernet and a few lines of code and you can connect anything to that sign
14:52 slewfoot probably not for the inductrial protocol....
14:52 yNos I dont know that we have an arduino with ethernet.. Its snowin, welcome to michigan in february.
14:52 BitViper yNos : ridin your bike today right ? LOL
14:53 egrsteve one more hour of class today
14:54 yNos If i still had the ural with the sidecar, yes.. a 2wd motorcycle!
14:54 egrsteve nice
14:55 yNos the rear and sidecar wheels both drive..
14:56 egrsteve that had to be an interesting ride
14:56 egrsteve ttyl, time for class
14:58 yNos have fun
15:00 BitViper nom nom nom apple turnovers
15:05 yNos BitViper: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl​ayer_detailpage&amp;v=emaYNNKRlUs#t=59s
15:05 BotSteve Title: Morley Pond ice ride - YouTube
15:06 yNos slewfoot might like it too
15:08 BitViper sweet, now do it with street tires =p
15:10 BitViper green bike beside ya seems rather stubborn
15:12 yNos i am the green bike ;)
15:12 yNos a friends kaw 450
15:12 yNos he was riding the ktm
15:12 astro73|alice how's Securify as a name for a chrome extension?
15:14 BitViper oh so youre not the one with the cam
15:14 yNos nope
15:14 yNos wheelies make more wind resistance, they just slow you down.
15:15 BitViper the one with the cam for daggone sure knows how to make that bike do its thing
15:15 BitViper very nice
15:15 BitViper i love seeing drivers of any vehicle make the vehicle perform to its true capacity
15:15 yNos he was showboating...
15:16 yNos he was a pro racer.. and a bit of a douche..
15:16 yNos likes being a big fish in a little pond..
15:16 astro73|alice chris?
15:16 yNos lol
15:16 yNos not too different
15:17 yNos Mikey Babka
15:17 BitViper what scares me is how close those guys get in the corners with their bikes leaned what looks like 50 deg over
15:17 BitViper half a sneeze and EVERYONE goes over
15:17 yNos mor than that
15:17 yNos well, less than 50 deg
15:17 yNos not uncommon to misjudge and have your bars hit the ice.
15:18 BitViper that would not be pretty
15:18 yNos you just spin
15:18 BitViper along with the guy 2 inches from your tire and the 2 guys behind ya
15:19 yNos nah, that doesnt happen often
15:20 yNos 4 years in, i have fallen many times.. never took anyone else out.
15:20 BitViper i take it this is a helmet cam ?
15:20 yNos nope. its on his boot.
15:20 yNos :P
15:20 BitViper O_O
15:20 yNos lolyes
15:20 yNos its a helmet cam
15:21 BitViper funny place to wear a boot P
15:22 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/felhh.jpg
15:24 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4l8xhctHF4
15:24 BotSteve Title: Big subamp test - YouTube
15:25 yNos lolwut? http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1​0150610825481236&amp;set=a.84218536235.8​1626.20114386235&amp;type=1&amp;ref=nf
15:25 BotSteve Title: Wall Photos | Facebook
15:25 yNos Jerry, is your car up a pole again?
15:26 yNos at least it is pointed in the right direction.
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15:26 yNos RUN, HIDE YOUR CHILDREN!!
15:27 hhrlisa NO HIDE YOUR HUSBANDS!!
15:27 astro73|alice hi hhrlisa
15:27 hhrlisa Sup astro
15:27 Talos452 Dont hide me
15:27 Talos452 i can take her
15:27 Talos452 lol
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15:27 astro73|alice quiet at work. rumor GRCC may close later
15:28 BitViper hide the men
15:29 astro73|alice and the lesbians
15:29 lee_ lol
15:29 BitViper >.<
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15:32 hhrlisa :D
15:32 Experimentonomen g'day sparky
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15:32 Experimentonomen g'day iSasha
15:32 hhrlisa I hate heartburn
15:32 iSasha Yo guys, did you get your quarters?
15:32 BotSteve isasha: I have the following messages for you:
15:32 BotSteve At 14 Feb 22:24Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell isasha i'm picking on him
15:32 iSasha Ok wannabe....
15:33 yNos nothing like a 2ish week old message..
15:34 yNos 2ish week old contectual message..
15:34 hhrlisa inside jokes ftw
15:34 yNos lol, i didnt say concentual
15:35 hhrlisa well those would really be Inside jokes wouldn't they
15:35 iSasha So anyways, did any of you get your quarters? I have a question about the packaging...
15:36 yNos mine didnt get shipped..
15:36 yNos was there an issue with the packaging?
15:37 iSasha No I just want to know if the number under the flap has any significance
15:38 yNos likely just for moose to keep everything in order when she was prepping it all.
15:40 lee_ im bored
15:40 iSasha Well I guessed that, but did she count from zero, making some sorta serial number?
15:40 wannabe1987 poor lee_
15:40 * lee_ is sad :(
15:41 yNos iSasha: i think it was per batch. what is your number?
15:43 lee_ i sasha is here? oh hi
15:43 yNos just asked moose.
15:45 wannabe1987 "car hits MDOT plow"  guess who won?  the plow....fyi don't hit plows
15:45 lwq-school lol
15:45 BitViper pics or it didnt happen
15:46 lwq-school rofl
15:46 wannabe1987 omg touchpad hate REIGHT NOW
15:46 astro73|alice i remember that mythbusters
15:46 wannabe1987 just because i mouse over something....doesn't mean i want to click it!
15:46 yNos CLICKY!! CLICKY!!
15:46 Experimentonomen wannabe1987, i hate mousepads too
15:47 astro73|alice wannabe1987: that's why i set my chromebook to only click when you physically press the touchpad
15:47 wannabe1987 normally i'm ok witht hem...
15:47 wannabe1987 astro73|alice: my keyboard is small and my thumbs hit it when typing
15:47 astro73|alice oh yeah
15:47 Experimentonomen the mousepad on my lappy is useless, cursor just jumps randomly across the screen when i try to use it
15:47 astro73|alice and it's not an ultra-cool toupad
15:49 hhrlisa god i have no patience today
15:49 astro73|alice i got drugs for that :P
15:50 hhrlisa can't
15:50 angy I never had any patience, hence I teach classes
15:51 wannabe1987 BitViper: www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/sw_mi​ch/buick-hits-mdot-plow-driver-dies
15:52 BitViper lol that sounds like the plow driver died LOL
15:52 wannabe1987 mhm
15:53 * lwq-school heads his desk
15:53 * wannabe1987 hugs a you
15:53 lwq-school my dad was a dick last night and turned the tv back on when i turned off when he was sleeping and he woke up
15:53 lwq-school so i got no sleep
15:54 wannabe1987 supposedly we've had 3/7 inches of snow so far....
15:54 wannabe1987 so glad my car is in the garage!
15:54 wannabe1987 however those crazy people i rent from are coming back today
15:54 * lwq-school repeatedly heads desk
15:54 wannabe1987 supposedly
15:55 BitViper our maintenance guy has been on the tractor/plow all morning, by the time he finishes the sidewalks the ones he did first have several inches of snow on em again. he's working on his 3rd or 4th round now
15:55 lwq-school lol
15:55 BitViper and the parking low plow guys have yet to show up, odd since theyre usually here way early
15:55 lwq-school i find that funny
15:55 yNos BitViper: the plow driver lived.. poor titline..
15:56 BitViper yNos : yeah, its all about the punctuation, or lack of
15:56 Experimentonomen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqtgMuQ4sx4
15:56 BotSteve Title: Big subamp - YouTube
15:57 lwq-school i so want to tell this girl next to me shes forever alone
15:57 wannabe1987 o.O  Grandpa's preaching at church?!
15:57 wannabe1987 he never comes back...o.o
15:57 wannabe1987 this is awesome
15:58 wannabe1987 go on
15:59 astro73|alice a half hour after we shovelled our driveway, it needed to be cleared off again and i had to brush my car off again
16:00 wannabe1987 heh.  jenison has 4.5 inches vs the lab's 3.7 inches
16:00 SparkyProjects Experimentonomen: That sounds awful
16:00 Experimentonomen SparkyProjects, thats a shitty camera, and the mic is severely clipped out too
16:00 wannabe1987 lwq-school don't do that.  you don't want to be bullied, why bully other kids?
16:02 Experimentonomen btw SparkyProjects, do u even have a system capable of reproducing the low frequencies in that vid ?
16:02 lwq-school bbl
16:03 SparkyProjects Since i stopped doing disco's several years ago, i don't have a decent power amp, i still have the speakers though.
16:03 SparkyProjects But yeah, i think the original system could have reproduced that
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16:04 wannabe1987 so
16:04 astro73|alice having fun there?
16:04 wannabe1987 i'm home
16:05 wannabe1987 i have to leave at like...1:15
16:05 wannabe1987 work.  gah
16:05 wannabe1987 no
16:05 SparkyProjects Speakers are 12 inch 100 watt Fane Crescendo, and are in cases that are 'horn loaded' (means they throw all the power forward)
16:05 SparkyProjects 2 speakers per case
16:08 Talos452 holy crap
16:08 Talos452 Police have found a possible Explosive Device in my city
16:08 wannabe1987 o.o
16:08 Talos452 there's never any of that
16:08 Experimentonomen can u believe the lfe in that vid was produced by two 8" woofs ?
16:09 wannabe1987 Talos452: did you plant it?
16:09 SparkyProjects I can believe it, speakers have got smaller and still been able to produce the resuults
16:10 Talos452 No, i did not :P      im a little freaked out though
16:10 wannabe1987 ok good.  link?
16:12 Talos452 They have nothing on the news site yet, just live on air about 5 minutes ago on local radio
16:12 wannabe1987 ahhh
16:12 wannabe1987 ok
16:12 Talos452 that and, I saw police tear toward the scene like a bat out of hell
16:12 Talos452 10 minutes ago
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16:26 LeePod I hate being fat
16:30 wannabe1987 :/
16:30 yNos LeePod: do something about it.
16:31 yNos i used to weigh 380
16:31 yNos am down to 250 now.
16:32 yNos nothing will happen if you do nothing.
16:33 hhrlisa Good job ynos!
16:33 wannabe1987 how did you do it, ynos?
16:37 yNos diet mostly
16:37 yNos not eating after 6pm
16:38 yNos going out hiking with my daughter.. mostly just tromping around in the state land north of our house.
16:39 yNos riding bikes to get there.
16:39 yNos little stuff
16:40 hhrlisa nice
16:41 slewfoot hey yNos, you do any Geocaching?
16:43 yNos we did it for a little while
16:43 yNos lost intrest
16:44 slewfoot I haven't been for a while - still have an active cache out there though
17:02 Istas My roommate does it a lot when it's not-winter. I've been pondering placing a cache at the top of a nearby mountain next time I ride my bicycle up there.
17:07 Istas Which won't be until June at the very earliest because of the snow.
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17:14 yNos silly.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v​=xjUb4Pr2HnY&amp;feature=share
17:14 BotSteve Title: Wizard Love - Harry Potter Music Video - Meekakitty Featuring heyhihello - YouTube
17:15 wannabe1987 hey astro73|alice, is it possible to write a script so that when scripts stop working theres a script that says "so what, just stop the damn thing"
17:15 wannabe1987 (firefox)
17:15 astro73|alice it should do that on it's own
17:15 astro73|alice and idk off-hand
17:15 wannabe1987 nope.  a pop up comes up " do you want to see if it will finish or just stop it"
17:15 wannabe1987 i don't give a shit!  just WORK
17:17 wannabe1987 all i want to do is type....w/o it flipping to fb because it broke
17:21 astro73|alice a lot of firefox is in JS, but that function might now
17:21 astro73|alice *not
17:21 astro73|alice since it'll get called on firefox's stuff, not just web pages
17:22 wannabe1987 The geek group - great for michigan's tourism!
17:22 astro73|alice possibly...
17:22 wannabe1987 well, it does the same for other pages to, gmail, etc, but mainly fb
17:26 wannabe1987 http://bit.ly/ye7CZv
17:26 BotSteve Title: Funds for Haiti | Kelly vanderwell's Fundraiser on Crowdrise
17:26 astro73|alice yes, i understand what's happening and why
17:26 astro73|alice idk if that can be overriden though
17:28 wannabe1987 ok.  at least someones understanding it....
17:33 astro73|alice chrome does the same thing
17:35 astro73|alice it detects slow scripts and allows you to kill them off so other stuff can run
17:35 astro73|alice getting scripts involved in the process could mean that the script killer would hang, leaving you helpless
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17:37 mashpriborintorg hi
17:37 wannabe1987 hi
17:37 wannabe1987 shower tiem
17:37 wannabe1987 bbl
17:37 mashpriborintorg one day without captains blog is just like cheese without crackers
17:38 wannabe-afk ewwww cheese
17:39 astro73|alice mmmmm.... cheese
17:46 hhrlisa im gonna go lay down. :) need a pre nap before bed
17:47 astro73|alice ....
17:47 astro73|alice did that make sense to anyone?
17:47 mashpriborintorg definitely not
18:06 electricguy it's like preflash when taking photos..
18:06 Istas Hm. Well, I can see taking a nap a couple of hours before bed if you're so tired you're having trouble staying awake but don't want to actually go to bed before a specific time because you're trying to keep to a sleep schedule.
18:06 Istas I've done that before. But I'm not sure that's what she meant.
18:08 wannabe-afk Istas: i did that last night and slept funky hours....o.O
18:08 Istas Perhaps it does not work for you, or perhaps you didn't nap for the optimum time.
18:09 wannabe-afk i slept like 7-10, 3-7, and then 8-11
18:11 electricguy funny tune http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV_QVQ​aX07k&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBv​Ig&amp;index=1&amp;feature=plpp_video
18:11 BotSteve Title: Dirty Boyz - Boom (Shake The Room) (G4bby ft. Bazz Boyz Remix Edit) - YouTube
18:13 electricguy dark in the mdh
18:22 astro73|alice chrome is doing something RETARDED and i do not like it
18:22 wannabe1987 make it stop?
18:22 astro73|alice i'm trying
18:22 wannabe1987 whats it doing
18:23 astro73|alice not loading a stylesheet mysteriously, but i can't figure out why
18:23 BitViper its chrome
18:23 wannabe1987 ooo tis a mystery!
18:23 astro73|alice oh, duh
18:23 JA12 http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmed​ia/lp/8kv/hggt/3175/normal_919331048.jpg
18:26 Istas wannabe: link of potential relevance to earlier conversation.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-16964783
18:26 BotSteve Title: BBC News - The myth of the eight-hour sleep
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18:26 LeePod Hi
18:27 electricguy i need a serial terminal program that can give me access to the host computers harddrive
18:27 Istas JA12: wow. Wow.
18:27 electricguy hi leepod
18:27 astro73|alice electricguy: you don't ask for much
18:27 Istas Looks like someone either knew they were getting fired, or knew they wouldn't.
18:27 astro73|alice usually serial terminals aren't that intelligent
18:27 electricguy astro, no. but that's what i need..
18:28 wannabe1987 hi JA12!
18:28 JA12 hi wannabe1987
18:28 JA12 Istas: yeah. could be faked but funny either way
18:30 wannabe1987 jorbs!
18:30 wannabe1987 necessary evil
18:30 wannabe1987 at least i won't be terminated cuz of dr note!
18:32 wannabe1987 ...
18:32 wannabe1987 ok
18:32 JA12 http://isitchristmas.com/
18:32 BotSteve Title: Is it Christmas?
18:32 wannabe1987 are you sure?
18:33 Istas JA12: Definitely funny either way. Though I mis-interpreted it at first; it really could be just a company with a good sense of humor, or a recognition of good marketing.
18:34 Cprossu hello everyone
18:34 astro73|alice hey C
18:34 angy morning cprossu
18:34 wannabe1987 hi cpro
18:34 Cprossu anyone doing anything exciting today?
18:35 angy not did a single bit of work today
18:35 wannabe1987 working!  means i have to leave shortly
18:35 Cprossu good luck + try to have fun!
18:35 yNos snow:shovled
18:35 wannabe1987 wil do.  more like good luck and don't be in pain....
18:35 wannabe1987 at least i parked in the garage last night
18:36 Cprossu damn snow
18:36 yNos ohwell
18:37 wannabe-afk i'm not bringing my compooper today....
18:37 electricguy i wonder if CMD can be set up as a duplex serial terminal..
18:38 astro73|alice doubtful
18:38 astro73|alice i think PuTTY has a serial option, and there's something called heyperterm iirc
18:39 angy putty can do serial
18:39 angy cmd can, but it's very tricky to setup
18:39 Cprossu technically you could do it, through terminal services and telnet
18:39 astro73|alice ....
18:39 astro73|alice electricguy: download putty or hyperterm or something else
18:40 electricguy gonna check
18:40 Cprossu it wouldn't be worthwhile though =P
18:40 Cprossu (through terminal services that is)
18:41 yNos omg, great cover. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUJrt6E6ki0
18:41 BotSteve Title: Foo Fighters feat. Serj Tankian - Holiday in Cambodia - YouTube
18:41 yNos cprossu ^
18:42 astro73|alice I'm making a fork of https://chrome.google.com/webstore​/detail/kbkgnojednemejclpggpnhlhlh​kmfidi?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon
18:42 BotSteve Title: Chrome Web Store - Use HTTPS
18:42 astro73|alice I want to give it a new name
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18:54 * astro73|alice grabs the paddles
18:54 astro73|alice CLEAR!
18:54 * astro73|alice shocks the chat
19:00 angy fail
19:03 tonsofpcs bzzzt
19:04 tonsofpcs astro73|alice: half the chat plays with HV all day.  You think that shock will even wake us up?
19:04 astro73|alice HV to the chest might
19:05 electricguy hmm.. now i got a serial link between putty and the remote machine..
19:06 electricguy how do i get putty to access the command prompt? or the HDD directly?
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19:11 astro73|alice the target machine needs a telnet/serial server running
19:11 electricguy mkay
19:15 electricguy can i set that up in putty? o_O
19:17 astro73|alice no, it has to be done on the machine you're connecting to
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19:23 electricguy we are talking about different machines it seems..
19:24 electricguy the remote machine is a DOS lappy with a already working duplex terminal software
19:24 tonsofpcs putty is a ssh/telnet client.
19:24 electricguy it's the host machine i want to set up to access the HDD on that
19:24 tonsofpcs that's all.
19:24 tonsofpcs (well, and rlogin and serial)
19:25 electricguy what can be used as a "server" then?
19:25 tonsofpcs software that provides an interface over ssh (an sshd), telnet (a telnet host), serial, or rlogin...
19:25 electricguy the cloeset thing i have figured out is C:\ dir > com1: ... that sends the "servers" C dir to the remote machine
19:26 tonsofpcs right, you're just connected by serial right now.  What are you trying to do?
19:26 electricguy i want to send command prompt commands from the remote machine to the server
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19:26 electricguy and get the server to send the data back
19:27 electricguy so if i type dir on the remote the server sends the HDD dir back to the remote
19:29 mashpriborintorg new captains blog on the cook
19:29 electricguy yeah
19:29 mashpriborintorg hd not ready yet
19:29 electricguy it is here
19:31 tonsofpcs electricguy: so you want to provide a command prompt over rs232
19:31 electricguy yes
19:32 yNos .w SLIP)networking)
19:32 BotSteve "In networking, the Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) is a data link protocol commonly used in establishing a direct connection between two networking nodes." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wi​ki/Point-to-point_protocol
19:32 tonsofpcs any particular reason?
19:32 yNos erp
19:32 yNos erphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/​Serial_Line_Internet_Protocol
19:32 BotSteve Title: Serial Line Internet Protocol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:32 electricguy because i want
19:33 tonsofpcs i don't know of any dos terminal servers.  If you just want to browse directories and transfer files, you could use laplink....
19:33 electricguy the server machine is runnign windows btw
19:34 tonsofpcs what windows?
19:34 electricguy XP
19:34 tonsofpcs ok, so it isn't actually running DOS...
19:35 electricguy no. only the remote client is running DOS
19:35 astro73|alice so you have a DOS client (initiating commands) and a XP server?
19:35 yNos setup slip. stoopid simple
19:35 electricguy yeah
19:35 yNos available on all platforms.
19:35 electricguy gonna check out SLIP
19:36 tonsofpcs yNos: how does SLIP give him a terminal client?
19:38 yNos ssh
19:38 yNos or telnet
19:38 yNos or nc
19:39 Istas Grr. Game available at amazon.co.uk for 1/2 the price of amazon.com and $10 less than digital download, but won't ship here.
19:40 yNos ppp is also an option.
19:41 yNos ppp in dos is probobly better documented
19:42 BitViper slip is a pain in the ass, ppp is marginally easier
19:43 BitViper but yes much better documented
19:43 electricguy hmmm kay
19:43 electricguy i want something really simple..
19:43 BitViper electricguy : we're geeks and nerds, simple is alien
19:43 tonsofpcs electricguy: you haven't really stated your purpose so we can't suggest something simple.
19:44 tonsofpcs are you just trying to browse file trees?
19:44 electricguy i want to be able to browse files on my NAS
19:44 electricguy with a remote client
19:44 tonsofpcs ok
19:44 tonsofpcs that's easy.
19:44 tonsofpcs LAPLINK.
19:44 electricguy mkay
19:44 * tonsofpcs has a pretty yellow parallel port laplink cable somewhere...
19:44 electricguy gonna check it out
19:44 electricguy when i'm finished watching the CB
19:44 tonsofpcs http://www.laplink.com/llv/index.html
19:45 BotSteve Title: Laplink® Software - Laplink V for Dos - Data Recovery Software for DOS computers
19:45 tonsofpcs I have 2 and 3 somewhere...
19:48 yNos how many machines need to brose it?
19:48 astro73|alice simple?
19:48 astro73|alice can you pull out the harddrive?
19:49 electricguy yNos, only the one DOS laptop..
19:49 electricguy astro73|, no
19:49 yNos what version of dos?
19:49 electricguy 5.0
19:50 electricguy it got procomm as terminal software
19:50 Talos452 I REMEMBER DOS 5
19:50 yNos any reason it needs to be msdos?
19:51 electricguy it could possibly be running Win95 too
19:51 electricguy 75MHz intel pentium 16MB RAM
19:51 electricguy toshiba satellite 100CS
19:51 yNos and no pcmcia slots?
19:51 electricguy 2
19:51 electricguy but i don't have any ethernet adapter
19:52 yNos where are you located?
19:53 electricguy Kalmar, Sweden
19:54 yNos http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=pcmcia+ne​twork+card&amp;hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;hs=8​dh&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;prmd=imv​ns&amp;bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&amp​;biw=1440&amp;bih=736&amp;um=1&amp;ie=UTF-8&amp;tb​m=shop&amp;cid=17813124560161264233&amp;sa=X&amp;e​i=uOpHT7KiOIOugwf52sCBDg&amp;ved=0CJACEPMCMAc
19:54 BotSteve Title: TRENDnet TE100 PCBUSR Network adapter - CardBus
19:54 yNos $16
19:54 yNos i bet you could find one around...
19:54 electricguy a cardbus adapter wont work very well
19:55 yNos bah
19:55 yNos i just grabbed one of them /facedesk
19:55 electricguy *headfist*
19:55 yNos there are a few of them out there for cheap
19:55 electricguy but a RS232 link would be nice as the laptop is going to stand on a table like 1 meter from the server
19:56 electricguy they might be cheap. but it's a good thing if they got drivers for DOS too
19:56 astro73|alice you can run minimal linux on 75MHz, right?
19:56 astro73|alice like, just virtual terminals?
19:56 tonsofpcs you can use SLIP/PPP to connect linux/dos/windows to a network and just network browse...
19:56 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new YouTube videos posted by PhysicsDuck.  New videos:   Captain's Blog - 2-23-12 Geekhouse Morning and Iscar Night[57.13 min] http://youtu.be/q94lb9xB_Mw
19:56 tonsofpcs if you do that, then you NET USE \\host\path X: or something
19:56 electricguy mkay
19:57 electricguy but a RS232 link doesn't sound too complicated.. and i'd rather not buy anything for this
19:57 * tonsofpcs has used such to get a machine with no NIC and no HDD to connect to act as a bridge to bring an Amiga onto a network
19:57 tonsofpcs electricguy: alternatively, find a different machine to use for browsing.
19:57 electricguy nah
19:58 * tonsofpcs uses his tablet
19:58 electricguy then i rather just toss the idea in the trash
19:58 tonsofpcs why do you care to see what is on the NAS from a machine that can't use it?
19:59 electricguy i got a fanless laptop running DOS.. RS232 termnilas == OLD technology, it should be doable
19:59 electricguy bercause i want to try it out, and i'm a fucking geek.. that's why
19:59 electricguy because*
20:00 BitViper wth ROTFL ROTFFL @ cb "who lit the fuse ..."
20:03 Talos452 I know right?!
20:03 Talos452 lol
20:09 tonsofpcs electricguy: then go for it!
20:09 electricguy yeah.. that's where my question starts...
20:09 electricguy what do i use to do that?
20:10 BitViper wieres
20:10 BitViper *wires
20:10 * BitViper runs
20:10 electricguy no fucking shit sherlock
20:11 tonsofpcs electricguy: a serial terminal and ... good luck :)
20:11 tonsofpcs you might have to write something
20:12 electricguy what i can use is a nullmodem file transferring software called file mavedn.. but it's not auto updating
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20:18 lwq1996 its one of those days that you go DAMN!!!!!
20:23 * lwq1996 pokes irc
20:27 * HighMan|Escuela bites
20:29 lwq1996 hi highman
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20:30 electricguy ok, this is lol.. i'm running file maven with my workstation as a host..
20:30 electricguy and the file maven client is viewing the file servers directory throught my workstation
20:31 lwq1996 i stoped a fight today between 12th graders
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20:31 lwq1996 hi ponko, i stopped a fight today
20:32 Ponko good lad :)
20:32 lwq1996 i felt sorry for mrs.McGarvey because she was the only teacher that and they are 12th graders. the was screaming at them to stop, the woulnt. the yelled for help, no one would so i stepped in and pulled one guy off the other
20:32 Ponko you did the right thing
20:33 lwq1996 i was fucking shaking after though.
20:33 electricguy the == she?
20:33 lwq1996 they*
20:33 Ponko hey that's andrenaline my friend
20:34 lwq1996 everyones pissed at me because i broke it up
20:34 lwq1996 and i mean they were big football players
20:34 yNos electricguy: are you trying to make the dos machine your file server, or your client.
20:34 Ponko tough shit on them
20:34 electricguy yNos, a client to display the files on the server
20:34 Ponko they play on the same team right?
20:35 lwq1996 like i said its one of those days that make you say DAMN!!!
20:35 lwq1996 no i dont play football
20:35 Ponko lol no doubt
20:35 Ponko no i meant the guys fighting lol
20:37 lwq1996 oh, yeah
20:37 lwq1996 well i dont know if the one played football, it looked as if he did
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20:47 GasPS Evening all, anyone know what chris is making?
20:48 mashpriborintorg probably parts for the next gen of Stomper, according to the latest blog
20:49 mashpriborintorg they will make 2 of these coin crushers, the major parts are already sourced
20:50 GasPS The caps on the latest blog looked a lot bigger than the current
20:51 masterofmonks Spatula
20:51 masterofmonks Oh, good.
20:52 * CaptainNiobe kicks masterofmonks' ass
20:52 * masterofmonks screes at lwq1996
20:52 BitViper ROTFL at cb ... liz shaves her back ? O_O methinks she's gonna kill chris for that
20:52 mashpriborintorg with that amount of power, the coins may come out almost inside out
20:53 BitViper mashpriborintorg : i think thats the goal
20:54 JA12 liz makes boden burritos
20:54 mashpriborintorg their breakfast is....
20:54 electricguy i can barely wait to see this pulse jet driven snowmobiler run on the ice dragstrip in some weeks :D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMl4go72Y_8&amp;​feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G2dc2ce2FUAAAAAAAAAA
20:54 BotSteve Title: Svarthålet Racing - Första lyckade provstarten - YouTube
20:55 electricguy the engine is much bigger than what the nazis used on their V1 robot
20:56 mashpriborintorg the V1 was very basic, a mecanical timer did cut off the motor at the programmed point
20:57 mashpriborintorg but the V2 was freaking advance for its time
20:57 electricguy yeah
20:57 electricguy but imagine a pulse jet almost twice the size of a V1's
20:57 electricguy put it on a sled and ride it! ;)
20:57 * lwq1996 repeatedly pokes masterofmonks
20:59 * CaptainNiobe pokes lwq1996 for poking masterofmonks
20:59 CaptainNiobe :P
20:59 lwq1996 lol
20:59 mashpriborintorg it will be great for deicing roads :p
21:00 electricguy lol yeah :P
21:00 electricguy they have been tinkering with it for 2 years to even get it to start. hehe
21:01 astro73|alice lwq1996: it's amazing how much code you can write in one day
21:01 electricguy it's pretty clear that a vavle based BIG pulsejet is hard to build :P
21:01 lwq1996 lol, yeah
21:01 BitViper CaptainNiobe !!!
21:01 CaptainNiobe lol... bit slow there, BitViper :D hai! *hugs*
21:02 electricguy they use 9 burner nozzles made for district heating plants in that pulse jet.. xD
21:02 electricguy about 50 liters of kerosene a minute.. :P
21:02 electricguy thirsty jet.. :D
21:02 mashpriborintorg that's not too much  eco-friendly
21:03 electricguy yeah, right.. :P
21:03 JA12 50 liters?
21:03 electricguy yeppers
21:03 electricguy so, you are pretty much riding a burning bomb.. xD
21:03 JA12 and not very far
21:03 electricguy if something goes wrong :P
21:04 JA12 but if you have to die, might as well do it with a loud flaming fart
21:04 electricguy they are going to carry around 50-70 liters of fuel. it's enough for  the icy drag strip
21:05 mashpriborintorg nothing can possibly go wrong
21:05 electricguy lol.. naaah! :P
21:05 electricguy they got a total of 6 fuel pumps :P
21:06 electricguy the project starter himself next to the decent size jet.. :P http://hv4all.com/pulsejet/2011/​motor/CIMG8853%20%28Large%29.JPG
21:06 electricguy before it got any valves or anything
21:08 electricguy sorry, my fault.. a total of 12 fuel nozzles
21:15 astro73|alice lwq1996: ok, the real amazement is how much I implemented with how little code
21:15 lwq1996 lol
21:16 astro73|alice i rewrote all the page action handle with less than 200 lines of code
21:16 lwq1996 wow
21:18 astro73|alice 163 additions and 22 deletions
21:18 astro73|alice https://github.com/astronouth7303/u​se-https/compare/d6ebaeffef0c1f5b81​a19f72f71a6376ce4fd942...master?w=1
21:18 BotSteve Title: Comparing d6ebaeffef0c1f5b81a19f72f71a6376ce4fd942...master for astronouth7303's use-https - GitHub
21:24 electricguy lol.. http://www.damnlol.com/i/7156ed​137717de87a90d09c6cafb94fe.jpg
21:25 astro73|alice nice
21:30 astro73|alice and i'm done!
21:59 HighMan|Escuela lwq1996, Congrats!
21:59 HighMan|Escuela Also screw them.
22:01 HighMan Funny to learn gravity, intertia, monetum, knietic and potentional energy, friciton and centrifugal and centripetal forces IN DRIVING.
22:15 HighMan Force of Impact= Difference in speeds squared.
22:16 Seroster Hey, remember that 11.5mm hole that I spent four fucking hours making the other day?
22:16 Seroster I gotta make another one! =D
22:17 HighMan XD
22:17 HighMan Get a better bit
22:17 HighMan And drill
22:17 HighMan OR heat treat it
22:17 HighMan SEROSTER I THOUGHT YOU SAID IT WAS 1.5 Derp.
22:17 Seroster I wont fuck with it since I am returning that POS
22:17 HighMan xD
22:17 Seroster But first I'll heat treat it by fucking MELTING it
22:18 BitViper Seroster : thermite :)
22:18 HighMan lol
22:18 HighMan That would be worse since there would be even more metal to drill
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22:40 jonathanhex Hey, any main staff on the chat channel right now?
22:41 astro73|alice define "main staff"
22:41 jonathanhex Someone who could answer some questions about the giant Newton's Cradle?
22:42 astro73|alice what about it?
22:43 jonathanhex My friends and I are college students studying engineering, and we're thinking of making a newton's cradle on a similar scale, and since you guys have one that works and seems really well built, we were wondering if you could answer some questions about its specific construction.
22:44 jonathanhex specifically, the cabling, how did you pick the angle between the bowling ball cables, what sort of forces does each bowling ball have to resist, is there a critical angle for your cradle demonstration, etc
22:44 jonathanhex And why 7 balls instead of 5?
23:06 astro73|alice i thought it was closer to 20 balls
23:07 BitViper the full unit is, but when they moved it to the side of the mdh they took it down to 7
23:07 astro73|alice ah
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23:12 HighMan v/whois le
23:12 Seroster I'd have better luck filling the holes in a damn colander....
23:12 HighMan ...?
23:13 Seroster It aint really airtight
23:13 Seroster Well it is to like ten bar
23:14 HighMan How's drilling?
23:14 Seroster fuckyou =)
23:15 HighMan Equivalent of using your finger to drill through titanium?
23:15 Seroster I could make better holes with my dick. Flaccid.
23:16 HighMan xD
23:16 HighMan Damn, that dril must suck balls
23:16 HighMan We got 1 dewalt old drill at thome
23:17 Seroster It isnt a drill.
23:17 Seroster It lacks wings.
23:17 HighMan ?
23:21 Seroster The outer poins of the wings do the cutting
23:21 Seroster http://www.mytoolstore.com/drilldr/drilbit.jpg
23:22 HighMan Ok...
23:22 HighMan All I know is I have a good dewalt drill lol
23:22 HighMan And a few bits?
23:23 Seroster The drill doesn't really matter.
23:23 * HighMan Tries to drill through a peice of titanium with the best bit in the world but with a hand drill.
23:23 Seroster It just makes the chuck spin. As long as the chuck spins at the speed you need and the torque you need a harbor freight or b&d will work great
23:24 BitViper HighMan : that should work as well as with any other drill, but might take somewhat longer
23:25 HighMan :P
23:25 HighMan HAMMER DRILL
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23:35 masterofmonks I would not use a hammer drill for drilling metal.
23:35 HighMan Hi masterofmonks
23:35 masterofmonks Spatula HighMan.
23:35 HighMan Panckake masterofmonks..
23:36 HighMan But i'd rather have fish.
23:36 * BitViper puts masterofmonks and HighMan in a big frypan together
23:36 * HighMan Escapes
23:47 * BitViper captures HighMan and locks him in a pressure cooker
23:48 HighMan lol
23:49 * BitViper wraps the pressure cooker in a few dozen turns of heavy copper, and drops the leads on a high power ac line
23:49 electricguy bedtime. night night guys
23:49 BitViper g'nite electricguy
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23:52 HighMan Hi LemPhone
23:58 Seroster Hm
23:58 Seroster That's odd.
23:58 LemPhone mmm?
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