Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-02-26

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Time Nick Message
00:02 GlitchGR and how many conversations have you had with their lp?
00:04 BatSteve I am interested to know this as well.
00:05 epictang0 a number...usually they just try to sneak around...i would love to obtain their security footage
00:05 epictang0 they really hate it when you double back on them and whisper sweet nothings into their ear
00:06 epictang0 damn i love chickenshack
00:06 GlitchGR well that's not a unique thing, i wouldn't want you whispering sweet nothings in my ear either.
00:06 HighMan|Eating I'm hungry for crackers, but I'm not a cannibol.
00:07 GlitchGR lol chickshack. sounds like the male answer to the bunny ranch
00:07 masterofmonks Then you won't get Kuru
00:07 epictang0 www.chickenshack.com
00:08 epictang0 its a detroit thing...
00:09 lwq1996 joined #thegeekgroup
00:10 GlitchGR yep been there. used to spend every weekend out at CC and labyrinth
00:18 BitViper *SNEEZE*
00:19 * BitViper implodes
00:19 * HighMan Runs away
00:19 HighMan BitViper, You are a black hole.
00:21 BitViper *sniff*
00:24 egrsteve careful BitViper
00:24 BotSteve egrsteve: I have the following messages for you:
00:24 HighMan Hi egrsteve
00:24 BotSteve At 25 Feb 15:35Z, Coderjoe asked me to tell egrsteve thanks for the tip about universal radio. I would have wound up checking aes (list price) and hro ("discount" price $5 above list)
00:25 egrsteve .seen Coderjoe
00:25 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw Coderjoe 8.58 hours ago at 2012-02-25 15:50:45 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:25:47 UTC
00:25 egrsteve .seen Coderjoe_
00:25 BotSteve egrsteve: I last saw Coderjoe 8.59 hours ago at 2012-02-25 15:50:45 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:25:54 UTC
00:28 HighMan Anything new irc?
00:28 egrsteve i doubt ti
00:29 HighMan How bout you egrsteve
00:29 egrsteve not much
00:29 egrsteve dinner shortly
00:29 BitViper hey egrsteve : zozo is enroute, and cprosu is looking into coming too
00:29 HighMan Nice
00:29 egrsteve what brings them north this time of year?
00:30 lwq1996 .seen wannabe-afk
00:30 BotSteve lwq1996: I last saw wannabe1987 5.93 hours ago at 2012-02-25 18:34:18 UTC on #TGG:NSFW.  Current time: 00:30:11 UTC
00:30 BitViper zozo may be moving here, if he can find work, and cpro just cuz zozo is, but cpro is trying to find a cheap flight
00:31 * HighMan Wishes to tag along
00:31 egrsteve good luck with a cheap flight to GR
00:32 HighMan Can someone ship me to GR?
00:32 BitViper fsck .... *S*N*E*E*Z*E* ..... *S*N*E*E*Z*E*
00:32 BitViper *sigh*
00:32 HighMan BitViper, STOP SNEEZING.
00:32 BitViper i wish
00:32 HighMan Your gonna kill someone! And you feeling any better BitViper?
00:32 Seroster -yawn-
00:32 Seroster gn
00:32 HighMan Night ser
00:32 BitViper HighMan : feeling better ?
00:33 * egrsteve places BitViper in a square tile room, have fun
00:33 BitViper HighMan : my sneezes arent alergy or cold, it seems to be dry air, of which i have way too much here
00:33 HighMan BitViper, Get a humidifier
00:34 BitViper HighMan : i would need an industrial size one that i cant afford. I have a little 1 gal one thats supposed to last 8 hours ... yeah, the air is so dry it lasts maybe a couple hours
00:35 HighMan Or, get a water heater and add some steam in to room
00:35 HighMan BitViper, Keep Refilling it
00:35 HighMan Or open the window
00:36 egrsteve I think opening the window would further dry out the air
00:36 egrsteve 30degree air does not hold much mosture
00:37 HighMan BitViper, Where do you live?
00:37 HighMan GRR but what zip..
00:38 BitViper its the friggin furnace here that drys out the air
00:38 HighMan Turn it off?
00:38 BitViper im 90 min drive north of the lab, and if i turn the furnace of id freeze =P
00:39 HighMan BitViper, Choose one ;)
00:39 BitViper HighMan : hehe yeah
00:39 egrsteve BitViper:  you must be almost to big rapids then?
00:39 BitViper the only things im alergic to are work, women, and sunlight
00:39 HighMan I think you should get an electic blanket or something and turn that damn furnance off. Someday you aren't gong to be able to sneeze xD
00:39 BitViper egrsteve : east of BR yes
00:39 epictang0 BitViper: get a humidifier
00:40 HighMan epictang0, He can't afford one
00:40 BitViper epictang0 : as noted earlier i have a baby one, doesnt really help, i cant afford anything else
00:41 HighMan BitViper, I have an idea.
00:41 HighMan BitViper, Get a pump and more water.
00:41 lwq1996 im bored
00:41 * BitViper is used to sneezing, have done it for 40 years
00:41 BitViper lost count of how many lungs ive sneezed up
00:41 HighMan BitViper, That isn't good, your going to lose a nose
00:43 egrsteve almost time for dinner hear so ttyl
00:44 egrsteve I wonder if the chicken is off the grill yet
00:44 HighMan Good Eats egrsteve!
00:44 egrsteve indeed
00:44 * HighMan Salt and Viinegar chips
00:44 HighMan Yummy ^
00:45 BitViper egrsteve did you get my pm ?
00:45 * BitViper puts noms in the nuke
00:45 HighMan BitViper, ?
00:46 BitViper HighMan : nuke -> microwave
00:46 HighMan I gots to get chips
00:46 HighMan BitViper, Smart idea :P
00:47 HighMan Vinegar Chips are really good
00:50 astro73|mal joined #thegeekgroup
00:51 HighMan Hi astro73|mal
00:55 yNos hey akk
00:55 yNos akk
00:55 yNos all
00:55 yNos GD
00:55 HighMan Hi yNos!
00:56 yNos hey all
00:56 yNos :P
00:56 HighMan Did you use your phone when driving yNos
00:56 yNos how are things?
00:56 HighMan :P
00:56 HighMan Good you?
00:56 yNos No, i was at a gas station filling up
00:56 yNos i dont phone and drive.
00:56 HighMan Ok good yNos.
00:56 yNos i wont answer if i am driving.
00:56 HighMan Good boy xD
00:57 epictang0 BitViper: boil water on the stove?
00:57 HighMan epictang0, "<HighMan> Or, get a water heater and add some steam in to room "
00:57 BitViper way ahead of you, i do that from time to time, but tend to burn pans
00:57 HighMan BitViper, Purified Water?
00:58 epictang0 get a huge ass stock pot
00:58 epictang0 lol
00:58 HighMan Purified Water can't "burn"...
00:59 yNos running out of water burns the pans.
00:59 BitViper pure water cant burn, but the pan can
00:59 HighMan Oh!
01:00 HighMan Get a pump and a heat resistant pump/tube?
01:00 BitViper and my water here is so full of iron and other crap its probably magnetic
01:00 HighMan Damn
01:00 HighMan Get a carbon filter or some filter Iron Man
01:00 BitViper money
01:01 HighMan BitViper, Damn...
01:01 yNos BitViper: does yours turn red if it sits in the sun?
01:01 HighMan O_o
01:01 yNos ours did growing up..
01:01 HighMan IRON OXIDE.
01:01 HighMan Not good ^
01:01 BitViper havent tried, but a days worth of boiling and refiling water results in a crapload of brown stuff in the bottom, never tested if it was magnetic tho
01:02 HighMan Oh god. BitViper you have cut your life 10 years
01:02 masterofmonks I personally happen to like a little iron in my water.
01:02 BitViper HighMan : you saying i should now avoid the HVL ?? LOL
01:02 HighMan The only botteled water I hate is aquafina, it's really really really bitter
01:02 yNos We had high iron water.. it was clear when it came out of the tap, but would get more red as it sat in the light
01:02 HighMan BitViper, xD I doubt there is enough iron in your skin
01:02 epictang0 aquafina is crap
01:02 HighMan Yes it is ^
01:03 HighMan yNos, Is it iron oxide?
01:03 yNos no
01:03 BitViper HighMan : im prolly safe anyway, i drink very very little water
01:03 yNos feo would be red as it came out.
01:03 yNos i have been told it is a bacteria that eats the iron..
01:03 yNos i dont know though
01:03 yNos googling
01:03 HighMan What ever it is ain't good
01:04 HighMan BitViper, Why? Dry air = Sore throat
01:06 yNos aint good? i drank it for 15 years.. cant be all that bad.
01:06 HighMan Lol
01:06 HighMan http://www.watersof.com/images/water.jpg
01:07 HighMan Hi BatSteve! Any luck with the bot?
01:07 Druidic_Rifleman joined #thegeekgroup
01:07 yNos HighMan: wasnt that bad
01:07 BatSteve howdy HighMan, I'm still working on him
01:07 HighMan yNos, Well... At least it was a salt of iron ;)
01:08 HighMan Hey Druidic_Rifleman
01:08 HighMan Ah ok
01:08 yNos BatSteve: what are you working on adding
01:08 yNos ?
01:09 HighMan A forum and cb metioner
01:09 BatSteve yNos: Right now I'm not adding anything, I'm just cleaning up the code for the forum alerter and the new video alerter.
01:10 BatSteve my hope is that when I'm done, the code will be efficient enough that the bot will be able to post new videos within a minute of the time they appear on youtube.
01:10 HighMan BatSteve, We'll see ;)
01:11 HighMan xD I'll see if I can beat the bot lol
01:11 BatSteve HighMan: Yeah, my goal is to put you out of business, just like John Henry
01:11 HighMan :P
01:14 yNos HighMan: have you ever played with otomata or circuli?
01:14 BatSteve yNos: why?  Got a request?
01:14 yNos yes
01:14 BatSteve Lay it on me
01:14 yNos has to do with the billboard.
01:14 HighMan yNos, A what a ma thingy?
01:14 HighMan What doohickey?
01:15 yNos HighMan: it is a fun musical toy
01:15 HighMan No...
01:15 HighMan ^To me playing it
01:15 yNos BatSteve: does the bot do the logging as well?
01:15 yNos ot is there a seperate logger?
01:16 HighMan yNos, Why?
01:16 BatSteve logging meaning this?
01:16 BatSteve .log
01:16 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
01:16 BatSteve that log?
01:16 yNos yeah
01:16 BatSteve That log is managed by _ilbot
01:16 yNos ah
01:16 yNos ok
01:17 yNos does BotSteve read all the lines that come in?
01:18 yNos i was trying to find a way to forward messages from anyone who has +v to a machine at tgg to be forwarded into the board.
01:18 astro73|alice define "read"
01:18 HighMan BatSteve, How does the bot work? It reads the pms then goes through a set of scripts and then pms it back to the user?
01:18 astro73|alice .code
01:18 BotSteve You can download my code at https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve
01:18 BitViper yNos : that should be easy enough, one there's a proper api for the board
01:18 BatSteve he does read all the lines that come in
01:19 yNos does he currently look at messages that do not have .command
01:19 epictang0 pretty hate machine still holds up as one of my top 10 albums of all time...memories
01:19 astro73|alice yNos: it's actually based on regexes
01:19 BatSteve which is why you can do things like
01:19 BatSteve hi BotSteve
01:19 BotSteve Yo BatSteve
01:19 yNos ahh
01:19 yNos epictang0: but not further down the spiral?
01:19 HighMan Should I eat BotSteve
01:19 HighMan BotSteve, Should I eat
01:19 BotSteve I don't think so
01:20 epictang0 yNos: that is up there...but not as high
01:20 BatSteve yNos: why +v ?
01:20 HighMan BotSteve, Should I listen to you
01:20 BotSteve No way
01:20 astro73|alice BatSteve: it's a way to filter. trusted people get +v
01:21 astro73|alice if members starting adding stuff to nickserv, we could give automatic +v to members
01:21 BatSteve That doesn't seem optimal to me, but it does seem easy, and sometimes easy is better than perfect.
01:21 * epictang0 picked up PHM on vinyl...
01:21 pranq joined #thegeekgroup
01:21 yNos iono, was just coming up with something so people couldnt log in and swear/rant and have it go up on the board.
01:21 HighMan That's cool!
01:21 BatSteve What's the goal of the board?  I assume it's something like "real time streaming of the IRC session"?
01:22 yNos HighMan: which one?
01:22 astro73|alice actually, what would be cool is a script on the website that will give nickserv their member username
01:22 yNos http://www.earslap.com/projectslab/otomata or http://www.earslap.com/projectslab/circuli?
01:22 BotSteve Title: Circuli
01:22 HighMan yNos, ...
01:22 HighMan Derp I wasn't saying that but i'll chec it in a minute
01:22 HighMan I was saying the irc feed through the monitor is cool
01:23 astro73|alice the tgg site has fields for nickserv user and password, and a background process signs onto irc, identifies, adds the metadata, and disconnects
01:24 masterofmonks yNos, Why not jsut use :studio?
01:24 masterofmonks just*
01:24 Toastdude Can I take a survey in #tgg:probablility?
01:24 BatSteve Toastdude: yes
01:24 BatSteve masterofmonks: probably because :studio doesn't get the traffic this does
01:25 astro73|alice there's a :studio?
01:25 Toastdude Btw, hi BatSteve
01:25 BatSteve my point is proven
01:26 Toastdude #tgg:probability *
01:26 yNos :studio?
01:26 lwq1996 anyone ever watch the movie "the manhattan project"
01:26 epictang0 lwq1996: that movie is a joke
01:27 HighMan yNos, I am liking the otamama
01:27 yNos do you have them crashing into each other yet?
01:27 lwq1996 i remember watching it as a kid one morning and only caught like 30min of it
01:27 HighMan Yah..
01:27 BitViper bahahahaha "the fastest way to clean your gun ... is to shoot a couple people with it"
01:27 epictang0 BitViper: so very very true...
01:28 BatSteve yNos: It would be pretty easy, I think, to snarf all the traffic from the channel.  +v might be more annoying but that's because we'd be abusing a feature of IRC for purposes it wasn't intended to be used for
01:28 HighMan yNos, Still don't have the hang of this
01:28 BatSteve Any idea how would the bot connect to the TGG machine?
01:28 BatSteve (protocol-wise?)
01:28 astro73|alice BatSteve: how is using voice tht way abuse?
01:29 BitViper BatSteve : bunch of possible ways to connect, but need a good api for the board first, unless slewfoot managed to make one
01:30 HighMan yNos, ...
01:30 BatSteve Well, as I understand it, voice is supposed to mean you get to talk in-channel when the channel is +m.
01:30 astro73|alice so +v could still be given to "trusted" members
01:30 BitViper BatSteve : so we're repurposing it. so what, its not breaking its intended purpose
01:31 astro73|alice we could consider the board a read-only +m mirror of the channel
01:31 lwq1996 astro, do you have a bird on your head right now :P
01:32 masterofmonks Meaning that you lose context of conversation.
01:32 masterofmonks +v is talking to a -v chatter, you are only getting one side of the conversation.
01:33 astro73|alice not at the moment
01:33 yNos i can write a little listener that writes everything to a fifo, then as we grab things off and fmt them.
01:33 yNos we know how the topics can be in here, we have to keep all things in the lab g rated.
01:33 HighMan I give up
01:34 yNos so irc may not go to the board..
01:34 yNos HighMan: give up?
01:34 HighMan yNos, It literally sounds like shit
01:34 yNos too much going on?
01:34 HighMan yes... And the fact idk what's what
01:34 BitViper yNos : how about a command for a bot so selected users can send specific messages to the board
01:34 yNos it was made to be a minimalist sound generator.
01:34 BatSteve Now THAT can be done.
01:35 HighMan Use a piano :P
01:35 yNos that may be useful.
01:35 BitViper or even a full command api for the board from irc
01:35 yNos that could be a pita.
01:35 HighMan But there should be a filter for cuss words
01:35 yNos we dont want to put the board on the outside.. and i am not a good enough programmer to to much more than basic formatting..
01:35 BitViper well not a low level api, but a high level api, where messages could be added and deleted via irc for example
01:36 BatSteve You're right, we can't make any buttumptions about what people might try to put on the board
01:36 HighMan XD
01:36 BitViper thus selected person access only
01:36 yNos i know what people will do given the option..
01:36 yNos right, that is why i was thinking +v...
01:36 Monkeh yNos: Things specifically to annoy Boden?
01:36 HighMan I don't think that's a good idea...
01:36 yNos and more.
01:36 HighMan I mean if only "certain" people get to type to the board that isn't much fun.
01:36 BitViper i can see the messages now, while he's doing user mail :)
01:37 yNos since he does the mail right in front of the board every day ther eis mail
01:37 HighMan But repeat offenedors of asses who type shit should get kicked
01:37 yNos it could get fun phtobombing him...
01:37 yNos wit the sign
01:37 astro73|alice just remember not to do it too often
01:37 BitViper it would become " a thing "
01:37 astro73|alice or that
01:38 HighMan Anyone can send to the sign, But anyone who cusses x amount of time is baned
01:38 HighMan Maybe a user quota?
01:38 Monkeh HighMan: The general idea is to avoid bad things going up on it altogether.
01:38 BitViper argh, trying to chat, watch a video, and write code on three different screens =(
01:38 Monkeh This includes everything you say.
01:38 yNos we cant allow any cussing to hit the board
01:38 HighMan BitViper, XD
01:38 HighMan Let me propose an idea.
01:38 BatSteve IRC is pretty simple.  Looking at it from a usability standpoint alone it might be quicker and easier to have an IRC command channel rather than have a machine that you have to type on to get something on the board.
01:39 yNos how are you going to regex fu kc?
01:39 astro73|alice you don't
01:39 astro73|alice you cannot predetermine everything people will cuss
01:39 BitViper thats why its certain people only
01:39 epictang0 just have it parse against a banned wordlist
01:39 astro73|alice you can have levels of access too
01:39 Monkeh astro73|alice: Which is why only trusted people get to display things on the board.
01:40 Monkeh epictang0: Wordlists suck.
01:40 epictang0 Monkeh: yes...but it is quick and dirty
01:40 astro73|alice anyone can submit a suggestion for approval. after enough approved posts, users can be added to the whitelist
01:40 Monkeh epictang0: And bad.
01:40 Monkeh Next suggestion
01:40 astro73|alice and a wordlist can keep out the riff-raff
01:40 astro73|alice you can filter everything
01:41 astro73|alice but since anything with f*** will be disallowed anyway, you can have the machine do it
01:41 BatSteve taht is a fnatsatic ieda epcitnago, beacsue erevyone konws taht hmunas are terrlbile at depichering mnagled wrdos
01:41 masterofmonks From
01:41 astro73|alice *can't filter everything
01:41 HighMan That is true
01:41 masterofmonks I belive that "from"
01:41 masterofmonks Meets your mask of f***
01:42 HighMan I propose a group of monkeys to go find AI
01:42 Monkeh astro73|alice: So I can't say face, fart, from, frog, fork?
01:42 astro73|alice i mean f$&* people
01:42 astro73|alice srsly
01:42 epictang0 BatSteve: how many words can you think of use f,u,c, and k?
01:42 HighMan FiretrUCK
01:43 Monkeh Dear god, HighMan actually said something intelligent
01:43 astro73|alice a wordlist isn't a good way to prevent cussing. but it makes approving easier
01:43 HighMan :P
01:43 BatSteve Well done HighMan!
01:43 * lwq1996 pokes masterofmonks to look at his pm's
01:43 BitViper *gasp*
01:43 HighMan Hahaha so funny :P
01:43 masterofmonks I was on a game once where the word "Saturday:" was filtered.
01:43 Monkeh masterofmonks: And this is why hacked up regexps and wordlists are worthless.
01:44 Monkeh People will swear. Either don't care, or make sure the only people who can talk DON'T swear because they know better.
01:44 BatSteve Agreed.  If someone else would like to write a BotSteve module that filters by wordlist, go for it.  I don't think it would be beneficial.
01:44 Monkeh BatSteve: Where's my unicode?
01:44 HighMan XD ^
01:44 masterofmonks I like the trusted user approach, but I don't think it will work in the main channel.
01:44 BatSteve Monkeh: in my pants
01:44 masterofmonks Because you will consistantly get one side of the conversation.
01:44 Monkeh BatSteve: No, that's your DNA dispenser.
01:44 HighMan Monkeh, Wow...
01:45 Toastdude Can everyone participate in a quick survey in #tgg:probability ?
01:45 masterofmonks However if say TGGMC could control who has +v in the studio channel...
01:45 HighMan masterofmonks, I just think that skews the idea of IRC to Board... It won't be as fun
01:45 Monkeh masterofmonks: Then Cory will get his hands on it.
01:45 Monkeh masterofmonks: NOT A GOOD THING.
01:45 masterofmonks Or whomever is on the controls...
01:45 HighMan HAHAHA ^
01:45 HighMan Liz should control it
01:46 Monkeh masterofmonks: Cory's the only one I worry about.
01:46 HighMan Monkeh, Bout gibroni?
01:46 astro73|alice i figured that having an easy bot command would be good
01:46 astro73|alice like .post
01:46 yNos we cant make someone a babysitter...
01:46 BatSteve I agree with astro
01:46 astro73|alice what about approvals in #tgg:ops?
01:46 BatSteve it seems like the most technically viable
01:46 masterofmonks astro73|alice, we ahve :administration for that.
01:47 astro73|alice excuse me, sorry
01:47 Monkeh Holy crap, that's dire.
01:47 HighMan Let's make this fundraising!
01:47 * Monkeh just looked at a crimp joint from his old battery charger
01:47 BatSteve (unrelated, I think ops is better, just because it's easier to type)
01:47 HighMan .50 cents per a message!
01:47 BatSteve ....
01:47 Monkeh BatSteve: Most channels have a -ops and a second private channel.
01:47 masterofmonks HighMan, you're paying?
01:47 BatSteve HighMan, you're on a roll tonight.  Two excellent ideas in less than 10 minutes
01:47 yNos HighMan: i like that idea...
01:47 HighMan lol
01:47 HighMan BatSteve, :P
01:48 astro73|alice i figure that posts that need approval can be asked in the ops channel, and a whitelist of ops (identified with nickserv) can approve or deny them
01:48 egrsteve hello
01:48 yNos hey steve
01:48 Topic for #thegeekgroup is now www.justin.tv/thegeekgroup | Channel log: http://bit.ly/fPNer2 |  Minecraft TGG Lab File: http://goo.gl/zz0PK | Member Blogs http://is.gd/tggblogs | Subchannels, #Tgg:NSFW #Tgg:Controversial #Tgg:Guns #Tgg:Astronomy and probably more. | Would you pay USD $0.50 to put a message on the LCD board?
01:48 HighMan Hi egrsteve
01:48 Monkeh It's a Steve!
01:48 HighMan Now we have people internationally yelling :P
01:49 astro73|alice HighMan: that sounds really hard, given that I doubt that they have any kind of one-click purchasing on the website
01:49 Monkeh Hey egrsteve, you'll probably like this.
01:49 HighMan astro73|alice, That is true... Very hard to program something like that...
01:49 yNos Its an LED board, not LCD :P
01:49 Monkeh egrsteve: I took this out of a battery charger, peak current 8A: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dfIL_h9bsCM/T0mPdjbzCUI/AAAAAAAAAmo/H6b3QaHYcWA/s1024/IMG_20120226_014805.jpg
01:49 astro73|alice HighMan: not to mention compliance rules
01:49 Monkeh egrsteve: I just did that with a toothpick. No force.
01:49 egrsteve not bad, what voltage
01:49 HighMan astro73|alice, True
01:49 masterofmonks astro73|alice, yNos you you guys are more loking for something like bash.org for inside the lab?
01:49 masterofmonks looking*
01:50 astro73|alice a QDB is on the todo list...
01:50 Monkeh egrsteve: It wasn't actually crimped in at all.
01:50 egrsteve no, it was not
01:50 Monkeh egrsteve: And 12V. Car charger.
01:50 egrsteve I hope you remided that
01:50 Monkeh I.. disliked it, so it's now been salvaged for other things.
01:50 yNos Hmm.. I wonder if we can read/modify points from the forum?
01:50 astro73|alice also, this whole sign thing would be improved by a stronger relation between nickserv and tgg accounts
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01:51 Monkeh egrsteve: Couple of switches, some wire, 12V transformer I may or may not use, and a nice rectifier I'll be reusing.
01:51 Monkeh egrsteve: I've upgraded to a waterproof electronic 6/12V charger with pulse mode. :)
01:51 egrsteve nice
01:51 tlockley evening gents
01:51 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 3 new posts on the Geek Group forums ( http://goo.gl/t0vze ).  Topic: Reply To: BotSteve testingReply To: BotSteve testingReply To: BotSteve testing
01:51 BatSteve yNos: what do you mean by "points"?
01:51 Monkeh I just picked up this connector and noticed how loose it looked in there
01:51 Monkeh Just.. wow.
01:52 BatSteve Because as we've just proved, the bot can see the forums
01:52 BatSteve stupid bot
01:52 tlockley Monkeh: you any good with FreeBSD?
01:52 Monkeh tlockley: No, see yNos.
01:52 tlockley yNos: you alive?
01:52 astro73|alice BatSteve: there's a point value associated with members
01:52 yNos http://thegeekgroup.org/forums/topic/points-points/
01:52 BatSteve oh
01:52 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Topic: Points! … Points?
01:52 yNos yes, i am here :D
01:52 HighMan I don't even use the forum...
01:52 Monkeh tlockley: Gentoo, I can help. Ubuntu, my big hammer of science can help. BSDs, yNos can help. :)
01:53 HighMan Points for IRC ;)
01:53 tlockley yNos: what is the best way to get FreeBSD to boot using UUID?
01:53 yNos I have never had to do it.. let me ask around.
01:53 tlockley my external drive array keeps messing up the boot if i leav it on during startup
01:53 tlockley and thats how i fixed it before
01:53 Monkeh All praise dracut and grub. All praise dracut and grub.
01:54 BatSteve I have this idea that a lot of people use IRC and not the forum.  this might be observer bias though
01:54 Monkeh BatSteve: I would use the forum but I find it rather annoying to navigate.
01:54 HighMan The forum to me is just boring.. I have nothing to say
01:55 Monkeh phpBB or SMF I can cope with. Others, especially homebrew (no offence to anyone), I just don't like.
01:55 yNos I would think the opposite, there are many more people on the forums.
01:55 Monkeh Of course there's vBulletin. KILL IT WITH FIRE!
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01:56 BatSteve I'm not sure.
01:56 BatSteve I wish there were statistics
01:56 masterofmonks I would rather gouge my eyeballs out with red hot bricks than use the forum.
01:56 HighMan In ~1.5 hours there goes 7/8 of the bag of chips!
01:56 Monkeh masterofmonks: And if it were phpBB based?
01:56 masterofmonks Taht still stands.
01:56 Monkeh Not a forum person?
01:56 masterofmonks No.
01:57 HighMan Why monks?
01:57 Monkeh Fair enough
01:57 masterofmonks I loateh their very existance.
01:57 Monkeh I've noticed some people don't get along with them.
01:57 masterofmonks Loathe*
01:57 HighMan .define loateh
01:57 BotSteve Couldn't get any definitions for loateh.
01:57 HighMan .define loathe
01:57 BotSteve loathe — verb: 1. To hate, detest, revile
01:57 astro73|alice vBulletin isn't terrible. phpBB is god awful though
01:57 Monkeh And then there's the people who try to but don't quite grasp the concept of the flow of a discussion on a forum.
01:57 Monkeh astro73|alice: I'm the exact opposite. phpBB works, vBulletin is just plain disgusting.
01:58 Monkeh Plus, y'know, it's kinda expensive for a product you're very limited in scope with.
01:58 Monkeh I think the only reason it exists is the continuing mindset among Windows users that you can't get something for nothing
01:59 Monkeh Although I suppose Crapple fans are just as bad
01:59 HighMan The Irc. From The bot started by yNos to the Forum
01:59 HighMan How bout them hamburgers Monkeh?
01:59 astro73|alice Monkeh: well, yes. bbPress isn't terrible last i looked
01:59 Monkeh The lack of sense, straight from the mouth of the HighMan.
02:00 HighMan :P
02:00 Monkeh astro73|alice: Wordpress..
02:00 astro73|alice Monkeh: yes, i know. but it's forums from the same guy
02:00 Monkeh astro73|alice: Exactly my point.
02:00 astro73|alice (i also have a disdain for PHP in general, and most PHP software is crap)
02:01 Monkeh Well, there is that
02:01 epictang0 i have about 5-6 wordpress 0days i am sitting on...for a rainy day
02:01 Monkeh phpBB's code is a pain in the butt to get around, I can tell you that.
02:01 yNos Do we know if the camera in the cafe pointin tword the board is working?
02:01 egrsteve it was yesterday
02:01 Monkeh Haven't looked at SMF's code lately, but they've just basically rewritten it and BSD licensed it, which is cool
02:01 egrsteve if JTV is on security it should be there
02:02 Monkeh I just picked phpBB last time I needed a forum because it's well known by the other users and I found a neat portal for it
02:02 Monkeh (.. a portal I've half rewritten since, but hey, that's life)
02:02 yNos cool
02:02 yNos it is there.
02:03 egrsteve good
02:03 egrsteve the focus might be a bit soft, or it was last time I checked
02:03 egrsteve but it should be readable
02:04 HighMan BatSteve, Who's there?
02:04 BatSteve HighMan: orange
02:04 HighMan Orange who :P
02:04 BatSteve knock knock
02:04 HighMan who's there (Wow BatSteve :P)
02:04 yNos anyone have slewf00t's #?
02:04 BatSteve orange
02:04 egrsteve no
02:04 BatSteve no
02:04 HighMan Orange who?
02:05 yNos egrsteve: are you at the lab?
02:05 egrsteve no
02:05 astro73|alice i love re-writing other peoples software to fit my ends
02:05 Monkeh yNos: You really should have a policy of exchanging numbers with cool people. ;P
02:05 BatSteve HighMan: this is a spectacularly annoying knock knock joke and I am not going to spam the channel with it
02:05 HighMan XD
02:05 BatSteve (though, apparently, I will be happy to spam the forums with it)
02:05 egrsteve we did look at the plasma cutter as we had 3 DC servo drivers donated today
02:05 HighMan XD
02:06 egrsteve it looks like they might work
02:06 yNos nice!
02:06 egrsteve and a bunch of telemetry boards
02:06 egrsteve no idea there capacity
02:06 egrsteve looks like they have one BNC, maybe an antenna
02:07 yNos cool!
02:07 yNos i wonder what freq they run at.
02:08 egrsteve no idea, we had a donation of a bunch of computer/ electronics stuff
02:08 yNos hmm
02:08 egrsteve cprossue we have a couple thin-net/ t10 cards too
02:08 BatSteve hey, suggestion
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02:09 BatSteve can we have the board scrape tweets?  because then we can just say "tweet to account X and it'll appear on the board"
02:09 HighMan BatSteve, You ever been to the lab/
02:10 astro73|alice BatSteve: that has APIs even
02:11 egrsteve but we have the twittering teletype for that
02:11 jorden what dose APIs stand for ?
02:11 HighMan .wik api
02:11 BotSteve "An application programming interface (API) is a source code-based specification intended to be used as an interface by software components to communicate with each other." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Api
02:11 BatSteve egrsteve: I know, that's what made me think of it.
02:12 HighMan jorden, ^
02:12 egrsteve so the sign should run via a different service
02:13 jorden thanks
02:13 HighMan Yep
02:14 jorden got to go have a good night all
02:15 BatSteve 6 minutes?
02:15 BatSteve why join at all?
02:15 BatSteve oh, gotcha
02:17 yNos damn missisipians and their qso party.. noisey mofos
02:17 yNos lol
02:18 HighMan ...
02:18 egrsteve is there output not clean?
02:18 egrsteve do they have spurrious emissions?
02:19 egrsteve or are they just pushing too much power
02:19 yNos i know they are speaking english..
02:19 yNos just cant understand half of'm
02:19 yNos most are ok.. there are some reaaaaaaly thick accents
02:20 HighMan Que? Estamos hablar ingles ahora? Que?
02:20 HighMan Yo se hablar espanol! No se hablar ingles! Lo siento
02:21 yNos nah, more back woods than spainish
02:21 HighMan Que? Como se dice "nah, more back woods than spainish" in ingles?
02:21 HighMan *en
02:22 HighMan Back to english xD
02:22 Monkeh Thank you, Manuel.
02:22 HighMan No, my name is Ruber-Toe
02:22 masterofmonks The last time I was in Mississippi, I was so deep into the state that if I threw a rock it would have landed in Lousiana.
02:23 Monkeh HighMan: Reference lost on you.
02:23 Monkeh Please tell me at least one yank here got that.
02:23 masterofmonks Also, I would perfer to never go back there.
02:23 HighMan ...
02:23 masterofmonks Monkeh, considering that I am not a yankee, no.
02:24 Monkeh Is hamster!
02:25 masterofmonks As a matter of fact, where I am from calling someone a "yankee" is grounds for a fight.
02:26 Monkeh masterofmonks: And thus, the problem with your coutnry. :P
02:26 Monkeh Pardon my cold hands typing
02:26 * Monkeh closes window a bit
02:27 yNos masterofmonks: where are you?
02:27 HighMan He's in florida
02:27 masterofmonks yNos, North Florida
02:27 HighMan The same state as I am
02:27 masterofmonks Yes, but the part that HighMan is in could slide off into the gulf an nobody would shed a tear.
02:27 HighMan /msg yNos whois
02:28 HighMan masterofmonks, :P
02:28 HighMan There is a College you know masterofmonks?
02:29 HighMan I live in Bradenton Florida, Masterofmonks live in some state that starts with P
02:29 HighMan *city
02:29 masterofmonks Not because HighMan is there, but because of all the people people who move to Florida from the north and then are shocked that we have these things caleld hurricanes that wash their beach ouse out to sea.
02:29 masterofmonks called*
02:29 masterofmonks house*
02:29 masterofmonks Damn I need more coffee.
02:29 HighMan Why the hell did we move here... xD
02:29 HighMan *I
02:30 HighMan Why not tampa, or orlando, or st. pete... Why bradenton? xD
02:30 masterofmonks HighMan, Pretty much everythign from your area down.
02:30 HighMan masterofmonks, Where havee you been in florida? Bradenton? St. Pete? Ft. Lauderdale? ? Miami? Tampa?
02:30 Monkeh "Ahh yes, Mr O'Reilly. Well, it's perfectly simple: when I asked you to build me a wall, I was rather hoping that instead of just dumping the bricks in a pile, you might've found time to cement them together. You know, one on top of the other in the traditional fashion."
02:30 HighMan Orlando? Universal or Disney?
02:31 masterofmonks HighMan, I have been all over Florida.
02:31 HighMan masterofmonks, Why?
02:32 masterofmonks I thought that was a pretty good reason earlier...
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02:45 HighMan hi Prophetasleepawa
02:45 HighMan Wtf is up with your nick?
02:45 HighMan Are you asleep or awae?
02:46 KB3NZQ
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02:51 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums ( http://goo.gl/t0vze ).  Topic: Reply To: BotSteve testingReply To: BotSteve testing
02:53 BatSteve you dumb bot
02:53 BatSteve .code
02:53 BotSteve You can download my code at https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve
02:53 HighMan What's wrong now?
02:53 HighMan BatSteve, I posted a new reply ;)
02:54 BatSteve The "reply to" part still isn't fixed
02:54 HighMan xD
02:54 BatSteve for later use:  http://pypi.python.org/pypi/alphasign/1.0  use this to control the sign from python
02:54 BotSteve Title: alphasign 1.0 : Python Package Index
02:56 Toastdude The sign in the cafe?
02:58 yNos yup
03:04 BatSteve I mentioned it here so that I can grep the logs for it later
03:08 Druidic_Rifleman hey batsteve
03:09 BatSteve hey Druidic_Rifleman
03:09 Druidic_Rifleman there is a show called "canada's greatest know it all" an ok show but they did a really cool challange where they had to gestimate the drop point for a powder sack being droped from a lancaster
03:10 BatSteve Cool!
03:11 Druidic_Rifleman I wanna throw things out of aircraft :(
03:13 BatSteve it's not as cool it seems
03:13 BatSteve it's way cooler to be on the ground and watch them hit.
03:13 BatSteve From in the plane it's just "well I dropped it...there it goes"
03:19 HighMan .lo
03:19 HighMan .log
03:19 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
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03:21 yNos this is ridic..
03:21 yNos http://www.mono-project.com/Mono_Basics
03:21 BotSteve Title: Mono Basics - Mono
03:21 masterofmonks http://www.wimp.com/snoringhummingbird/
03:21 BotSteve Title: A snoring hummingbird. [VIDEO]
03:21 Sgt_Lemming yNos, loving the noisia?
03:21 yNos everything exec has to have an exe extension
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03:22 yNos noisia?
03:22 Sgt_Lemming the video I messaged you the other day
03:22 HighMan yNos, no
03:22 HighMan Not every exceutable has to have a .exe extension
03:23 yNos HighMan: have you played with mono?
03:23 HighMan No... I just thought you meant like in windows or something..
03:23 yNos I just did the hello world thing and it wouldnt let me call it hello, hello.com, or hello.monad
03:24 eadthem ya well mono is a replacement for .net
03:25 yNos yah, i needed some glue between one of the other environments..
03:26 yNos BotSteve: tell ProducerBill mono is working... have something i can test with?
03:26 BotSteve yNos: I'll pass that on when ProducerBill is around.
03:26 yNos thanks BotSteve
03:26 BotSteve No problem, yNos
03:26 Sgt_Lemming .seen producerbill
03:26 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I last saw producerBill 165.01 hours ago at 2012-02-19 06:26:06 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 03:26:37 UTC
03:26 Sgt_Lemming yeah, he's not been on for a bit
03:27 eadthem so why are you torturing yourself with mono?
03:29 yNos he wrote some stuff for the sign
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03:29 yNos i am not a fan of having a bunch of singlue-use machines atacking up..
03:30 yNos **stacking up
03:30 yNos so.. if monad can run the service he wrote, i can make it run on one of the current machines.
03:31 Sgt_Lemming yNos, just vm them all?
03:34 yNos i would like to setup a vmhost
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03:36 Sgt_Lemming http://thedevilspanties.com/comics/20120225.gif
03:36 tlockley yNos: when i reboot my machine with the drive array on i get the following error...
03:37 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.twitch.tv/tyger_wdr
03:37 BotSteve Title: Tyger_wdr
03:37 tlockley mounting from ufs:/dev/da0p2 failed with error 19
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03:41 tlockley any thoughts on why this happens? It only occurs when the array is on and attached to the server during boot
03:46 wannabe1987 ...
03:47 HighMan hi wannabe1987! How was work?
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03:47 yNos tlockley: what does your fstab look like?
03:47 Testsdfsdf Who
03:47 HighMan is
03:47 Testsdfsdf this?
03:47 yNos I have never setup uuid's in fbsd.. i did see some stuff, but not a whole lot.
03:49 tlockley yNos: http://pastie.org/3460546
03:49 BotSteve Title: #3460546 - Pastie
03:49 yNos Druidic_Rifleman: what is tyger_wdr?
03:50 Druidic_Rifleman a live cast
03:50 Druidic_Rifleman the guy who does the it is a gamer old school painy baller and an AV geek
03:50 yNos tlockley: can you create a new filesystem and set it up in there with it's uuid instead of the /dev/dskid?
03:51 yNos then see if it is ok with having the uuid in fstab?
03:51 tlockley possibly, i can use "gpart list" to get the uuid of the current root partition
03:51 yNos or do you already know if it is ok with that?
03:51 yNos dont do it with root..
03:51 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 2 new posts on the Geek Group forums ( http://goo.gl/t0vze ).  Topic: Reply To: BotSteve testing.....Reply To: Stomper mark V or VI comtainment vessel idea
03:52 tlockley I am fairly sure UUID is okay you just need to use the right /dev/???? string
03:52 tlockley dont do what with root?
03:52 Testsdfsdf tst
03:52 yNos use the uuid string instead of /dev/dsk
03:52 Testsdfsdf test
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03:52 yNos make a test filesystem to make sure we dont bork things up on boot.
03:53 yNos min size is 1 meg iirc..
03:53 yNos 1mbit
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03:55 tlockley how would i go about making the FS as my OS drive is partitioned to capacity and the other drives are all part of a zfs pool
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04:00 yNos make a zfs partition
04:00 yNos partition.. slice..whateva
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04:01 fadedshadows1 finly i remimberd to check the live stream wile people are there XD
04:01 yNos :D
04:01 lwq1996 im gonna go take a shower brb
04:01 yNos Bill is there...
04:01 yNos i see him moving around
04:01 fadedshadows1 lol
04:02 tlockley actually, i think im going to try this… http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/geom-glabel.html
04:02 BotSteve Title: Labeling Disk Devices
04:03 tlockley though its strange that my root partion doesnot return ufsid when doing glabel status
04:03 BatSteve .define depreciation
04:03 BotSteve depreciation — noun: 1. The state of being depreciated, 2. The decline in value of assets, 3. (accounting) The measurement of the decline in value of assets. Not to be confused with impairment, which is the measurement of the unplanned, extraordinary decline in value of assets
04:06 yNos tlockley: can you pastie me your loader.conf?
04:06 fadedshadows1 did bill brake it agin?
04:07 yNos bill break what?
04:07 tlockley there is none, and there is not vfs.root.mountfrom set
04:07 fadedshadows1 stomper
04:13 yNos NO, they are working on getting the meters networked.
04:13 yNos err.. **No
04:14 fadedshadows1 awesome
04:17 astro73|alice the HV volt meters?
04:17 astro73|alice nice
04:18 tlockley yNos: fixed the problem with disk labels
04:18 tlockley thanks for being a bit of a sounding board
04:20 BatSteve brb
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04:22 yNos Yes, the voltmeters.
04:22 tonsofpcs the voltmeters?!
04:22 astro73|alice awesome
04:22 tonsofpcs (I clearly misssed the leadup to this, but it sounds fun)
04:22 tonsofpcs the ammeters and ohmmeters  too?
04:22 yNos they have a 1000:1 divider on it.. their limit is 12v iirc, you can change the scaling on them
04:22 astro73|alice i always thought that a giant volt sign would be cool
04:23 yNos they are not hv meters
04:23 yNos 6k on the bank hits the 1k:1 divider then goes to the meter.
04:24 yNos asa 6 volts
04:24 yNos **as 6 volts
04:25 yNos http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_divider
04:25 BotSteve Title: Voltage divider - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
04:25 astro73|alice those things have some cool features
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04:25 yNos Hey bill
04:25 astro73|alice i looked into it when i was designing the sign
04:26 producerbill ok we need a tunel to the new computer
04:26 BotSteve producerbill: I have the following messages for you:
04:26 BotSteve At 21 Feb 18:52Z, Astronouth7303 asked me to ask producerbill about the following you get from the thursday show.
04:26 BotSteve At 03:26Z, yNos asked me to tell producerbill mono is working... have something i can test with?
04:26 yNos watching you in the stream..
04:26 yNos time to go to a pm for that fun ;)
04:26 HighMan A tunnel?
04:27 HighMan A network tunnel or like a literal tunnel?
04:27 yNos i think he means a port opened and forwarded.
04:27 HighMan Then network tunnel XD
04:27 yNos .w PAT (networking)
04:27 BotSteve "In computer networking, network address translation (NAT) is the process of modifying IP address information in IP packet headers while in transit across a traffic routing device." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_address_translation
04:27 astro73|alice ssh doesn't cut it?
04:27 yNos not into a windows toy
04:27 astro73|alice oh yeah
04:28 astro73|alice sshd for windows sucks
04:28 tonsofpcs ssh + tunnel vnc?
04:28 tonsofpcs rdp?
04:28 tonsofpcs *goes back to discussing vodka*
04:34 yNos teamviewer..
04:35 yNos rdp is a nightmare for security
04:35 HighMan Night!
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04:36 tonsofpcs yNos: no it isn't.  Nightmares are generally non-sensical and based on fears not founded in logic.
04:36 tonsofpcs :)
04:38 yNos like ms code?
04:38 Sgt_Lemming yeah
04:38 Sgt_Lemming teamviewer is much better than windows RDP for security
04:39 Sgt_Lemming and it can even be done in such a way it adds security
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04:39 slewfoot_ Phew
04:39 yNos heyman
04:39 Sgt_Lemming nice short
04:39 Sgt_Lemming shot*
04:39 slewfoot_ What an ordeal
04:40 Sgt_Lemming damn it, ruined the pun
04:40 yNos what broke?
04:41 astro73|alice you breaking things again?
04:41 slewfoot_ Just having to upgrade the winxp box for the sign
04:41 Sgt_Lemming lol
04:41 yNos for the meters?
04:41 slewfoot_ Plus just getting stomper gemininand thumper talking was a challenge
04:42 Sgt_Lemming heh
04:42 yNos was paul right when he said they babble?
04:42 slewfoot_ We've got that solved
04:42 yNos yeah?
04:43 yNos Oh, here is something interesting... http://pypi.python.org/pypi/alphasign/1.0
04:43 BotSteve Title: alphasign 1.0 : Python Package Index
04:43 yNos i think i need to learn python..
04:43 slewfoot_ I just send it a short message and it tells me what the voltage is
04:43 yNos there are other reasons, but this is one of them.
04:43 yNos so we poll it every second?
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04:44 yNos lol
04:44 yNos having issues?
04:44 slewfoo__ Apparently
04:44 yNos how is the wireless in that room?
04:45 slewfoo__ Looks good here
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04:45 yNos hmm
04:45 tehdark45 mmmh?
04:45 yNos mmhmm
04:45 tehdark45 mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
04:45 tehdark45 lol
04:45 * yNos just pooped a little.
04:45 tehdark45 good to know
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04:49 yNos wb..
04:49 tehdark45 slewfoot, are you at work or like fast internet? lol
04:49 yNos he is at the lab
04:49 yNos .stream
04:49 BotSteve The Geek Group Live Web Stream can be found at: http://justin.tv/thegeekgroup
04:50 tehdark45 ah
04:50 egrsteve people still at the lab, wow
04:50 yNos yah
04:50 tehdark45 egrsteve, you were there yesterday at that time :P
04:51 yNos how does tehdark45 know?
04:51 yNos Does egrsteve have a stalker?
04:51 slewfoot Were getting values from the volt meters
04:51 tehdark45 no
04:51 tehdark45 the blog
04:51 BotSteve In the last hour, there have been 1 new posts on the Geek Group forums ( http://goo.gl/t0vze ).  Topic: Reply To: BotSteve testing
04:52 yNos slewfoot: its too bright in there.
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04:52 egrsteve I was?
04:52 tehdark45 i duno thought you were
04:52 tehdark45 lol
04:52 tehdark45 i think i was confusing you with rick lol
04:53 egrsteve I left to eat dinner with my family aroud 7
04:54 egrsteve or maybe a bit sonner
04:54 egrsteve *sooner
04:54 tehdark45 did you finish the gun
04:55 egrsteve yes
04:55 egrsteve I epoxed it last night and did the wrap um on it today
04:56 tehdark45 ah
04:56 egrsteve range is only about 40ft but it needs to be relubed stil
04:56 egrsteve so it may improve a bit still
04:56 tehdark45 only? lol
04:57 egrsteve ok, still better than any stock nerf gun, even the long ones
04:58 tehdark45 tgg nurf gun?
04:58 egrsteve ?
04:58 tehdark45 make a tgg nerf gun
04:58 tehdark45 sell it
04:58 egrsteve and arm people that might want to shoot me with it at zomb?
04:59 tehdark45 yes
04:59 egrsteve why would I do that
04:59 tehdark45 fun
04:59 tehdark45 n stuff
04:59 egrsteve maybe
04:59 egrsteve it might be better to sell a kit
05:00 wannabe1987 yes!  i want to shoot you at zomb.  you keep shooting me....
05:00 tehdark45 or that
05:00 egrsteve hey after the first time I ussualy give the option to walk
05:00 tehdark45 pnumatic nerf gun
05:00 wannabe1987 your weapon of choice hurts as it is.....seriously....
05:00 wannabe1987 usually....
05:00 tehdark45 you will look like a ghost buster
05:00 tehdark45 lol
05:01 wannabe1987 and i don't have a weapon (other than my buzzbee) anyway...unless i get my brothers weapon
05:01 egrsteve I have built one, it's known as the noodle canom
05:01 egrsteve *conon
05:01 egrsteve *canon
05:01 tehdark45 lol XP installation
05:01 egrsteve it's a 1L resivour, a 1" diaphram valve and a barrel
05:02 egrsteve it is evil
05:02 tehdark45 psi?
05:02 egrsteve I have taken it to 100
05:02 egrsteve maybe 110
05:02 Sgt_Lemming egrsteve, we have one about the same, but it goes to 140psi
05:02 egrsteve I have taken it as high as the compresser goes
05:02 Sgt_Lemming at 100psi it put a 10mm dia, 30mm long piece of steel rod through both sides of a computer case AND the motherboard
05:03 Sgt_Lemming we use champagne corks as Sabots :-D
05:03 egrsteve nice
05:03 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, make a nurf go through a case :P
05:04 Sgt_Lemming we even have a crappy old metal lathe set up specifically for bringing the corks down to the right diameter to fit in the barrel
05:04 egrsteve nice
05:04 Sgt_Lemming tehdark45, any thing that can impart that much energy to a nerf dart is going to do more damage with the recoil than it will with the dart
05:04 egrsteve that might be a bit excessive
05:04 tehdark45 i know :P
05:04 Sgt_Lemming not to mention the dart would vaporise instantly upon leaving the barrel
05:04 yNos time to go to bed
05:04 yNos g'nite all
05:04 Sgt_Lemming night yNos, sleep well
05:04 * yNos waves
05:05 tehdark45 bye yNos
05:05 egrsteve I have vaporiezed darts
05:05 egrsteve ask cprossu
05:05 tehdark45 Cprossu, has egrsteve vapourized nurf darts
05:05 hhrlisa night yNos
05:05 Sgt_Lemming vaporised or disintegrated?
05:05 egrsteve yes
05:06 Sgt_Lemming vaporised implies friction based sublimation from a solid to a gas...
05:06 egrsteve depends on the amount of condinsate in the system :)
05:06 Sgt_Lemming eh?
05:06 egrsteve I'm kidding
05:06 Sgt_Lemming disintegrated I can believe, because I've done it
05:07 egrsteve although I have shot darts that vanish with no trace
05:07 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, you're not canadian, you cant say eh ;P
05:07 egrsteve not even shredded bits
05:07 Sgt_Lemming nerf dart fired from a steel hybrid combustion cannon
05:07 egrsteve just simply gone
05:07 Sgt_Lemming 9000PSI == nerf dart shreddage
05:08 tehdark45 Sgt_Lemming, i see what you did there
05:08 tehdark45 :P
05:08 Sgt_Lemming that same cannon was used to put a golf ball through both sides of a car
05:10 egrsteve and the engine?
05:10 Sgt_Lemming passenger cabin, not the engine
05:11 egrsteve still impressive
05:11 Sgt_Lemming golf balls vs engine block == cloud of white powder
05:12 Sgt_Lemming there is footage around of a guy using a hybrid cannon to fire 20mm steel darts through 1/2" thick steel plate
05:25 egrsteve that is impressive
05:26 wannabe1987 wb BatSteve
05:26 wannabe1987 exor674: http://i54.tinypic.com/16gdevm.gif
05:26 Toastdude wannabe!
05:26 exor674 heeeee
05:26 BatSteve who's working on the sign?
05:27 wannabe1987 todd/ slewfoot and bill
05:27 wannabe1987 Toastdude!
05:27 Coderjoe my nick highlighting went off, and so far the only thing I found in my scrollback is egrsteve doing a "seen"
05:27 wannabe1987 you did a tell to him
05:30 Coderjoe right, but that isn't in my scrollback
05:30 wannabe1987 astro73|alice: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425454_349594495073460_110298935669685_1121437_1208603828_n.jpg
05:30 astro73|alice lol
05:30 astro73|alice nice
05:31 wannabe1987 :nods:
05:31 wannabe1987 how far back does yours go?  mine goes forever
05:33 wannabe1987 here's the tell: "Coderjoe asked me to tell egrsteve thanks for the tip about universal radio. I would have wound up checking aes (list price) and hro ("discount" price $5 above list)"
05:33 wannabe1987 .tfw 49428
05:33 BotSteve 28 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Jenison, MI!  'Should have gone south'
05:34 hhrlisa .tfw 49509
05:34 BotSteve 28 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING COLD IN Grand Rapids, MI!  'Warmer than Hoth.'
05:34 Coderjoe wannabe1987: I know what the tell said. I don't know what happened when he said it, without taking the time to go dig through my log files
05:34 wannabe1987 ahhh
05:36 egrsteve yes?
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05:37 egrsteve someone looking for me?
05:37 wannabe1987 Coderjoe_ is
05:37 Coderjoe and at the moment, I am trying to examine what is on a drive that has been on my desk for awhile, as well as pull together some old user generated content from a dead video hosting site in order to get it up into the internet archive.
05:37 Coderjoe ... as well as having AT&T's overloaded routers dropping my packets
05:38 egrsteve sounds like a fun time
05:40 egrsteve Coderjoe: were you looking for me?
05:40 Coderjoe yeah... the first three routers out from me last night appared to be dropping 90%+ packets
05:40 wannabe1987 Druidic_Rifleman
05:40 Druidic_Rifleman yeah
05:40 Coderjoe egrsteve: well, just that you appeared to be looking for me awhile back, while I was out
05:40 wannabe1987 when are you coming this way
05:40 egrsteve I sent you info from universal radio, I think that was all
05:41 Coderjoe yeah, I did a .tell to say thanks. I didn't know about UR, and apparently, at least for that item, they were below list, while the other places I would have checked were at or above list
05:42 wannabe1987 i just told my mom to drink
05:42 egrsteve yes, universal ussually has good prices
05:46 lwq1996 .c 400+200+120+200
05:46 BotSteve 920
05:50 eadthem eclipse CDT    time of death 11:50 pm   cause of death    indexer sucks   never bothers to index certan files     chokes up on midely complex syntax
05:50 eadthem and so my search to replace VC2010 continues :p
05:51 eadthem i cant beleve that nobody has written a good GTK based IDE for C/C++
05:51 epictang0 because everyone that develops on gnome uses eclipse?
05:52 eadthem wouldnt know about that
05:52 eadthem i just know that it refuses to find certan defined classes in includes
05:52 wannabe1987 "Girl at Kleiner: "at least I can get high still, it's like falling into a puddle of kittens""
05:52 eadthem so it tags 90% of my code as bad   eventho it compiles     and thats after days of trying to get it to work right
05:54 astro73|alice http://www.etsy.com/shop/8BitLit
05:54 BotSteve Title: 8 bit lit by 8BitLit on Etsy
05:56 exor674 eadthem: oh god you tried Eclipse?
05:56 exor674 what were you on>?
05:57 eadthem it works well for php
05:57 eadthem corse the PHP indexer and the C/C++ indexer are not ==
05:57 exor674 I wish it worked better for Java
05:57 exor674 the thing sits there using like NO CPU and NO IO and is all "WAIT!!!!"
05:57 exor674 makes me wonder if the devs left a "Sleep 5000000000000" in the code or something
05:58 eadthem gonna try monodevelop  wich on some parts of there site says no c/c++ support   while others say c/c++ support
05:58 eadthem and netbeans
05:59 eadthem last time i had netbeans it was when i was tryign to learn programming in 8th grade
05:59 eadthem or 9th grade
06:00 exor674 monodevelop does do c++ at least, I can't speak to how good it is
06:00 wannabe1987 .seen zozo
06:00 BotSteve wannabe1987: I last saw Zozo 120.10 hours ago at 2012-02-21 05:54:23 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 06:00:22 UTC
06:00 exor674 C++ isn't TOO painful in a standard text editor for me
06:00 wannabe1987 ....
06:00 wannabe1987 dredre you're speaking greek
06:00 exor674 I don't really need autocomplete
06:00 eadthem netbeans dosent support VC++ for a toolchain
06:02 BatSteve go vim or go home
06:02 BatSteve :]
06:04 BatSteve wannabe1987: it's not greek
06:05 wannabe1987 sounds like greek.  or geek :P
06:05 eadthem ya know  my monitor has color so i like to beable to make use of that http://final.servegame.com/public/devdebug.png
06:05 eadthem thats why i dont just use notepad
06:05 BatSteve So what's the problem?
06:05 eadthem or vim
06:06 Thermoelectric Anyone got any suggestions of nuclear technology I could write about for physics?
06:06 eadthem accualy  i have alkipad so it has c/c++ syntax hlighting
06:06 epictang0 Thermoelectric: how about why standing wave is a BAD idea?
06:06 astro73|alice C++ is just painful
06:06 astro73|alice also, notepad is terrible
06:07 epictang0 use notepad++
06:07 astro73|alice vim at least can use colors
06:07 astro73|alice i'm a big fan of gedit; it's on windows now, too
06:07 Thermoelectric epictang0, I wish, but that's not really a application of nuclear technology.
06:07 BatSteve Thermoelectric: "How a nuclear submarine creates oxygen from seawater"
06:07 BatSteve I always thought that was cool.
06:08 astro73|alice eadthem: syntax highlighting and autoindentation are standard in a good code editor.
06:08 eadthem ya
06:08 * wannabe1987 wonders if gmail will let her open email yet
06:08 wannabe1987 i only have 7 to read :/
06:08 Thermoelectric Never knew they did that. That sounds quite interesting, better than the "sterile insect technique" or other suggestions on this task sheet. I wonder how indepth that is.
06:09 eadthem sadly i tossed out codeblocs and geany due to inabilty to change the colors
06:09 egrsteve GVIM
06:09 wannabe1987 yay it worked
06:09 astro73|alice i didn't realize people were that fussy about colors
06:09 * egrsteve starts Vi vs emacs battle
06:10 BatSteve I am!
06:10 eadthem im not    i just want strings red    comments green   background BLACK   and keywords blue
06:10 astro73|alice you probably won't like gedit, then. it uses the same code for its text editor
06:10 * BatSteve knows how to use emacs better than vim, but would like to learn vim because it seems to be more universal
06:10 astro73|alice geany has options, though
06:11 wannabe1987 "i found a position at DISH network that you are qualified for: senior marketing manager - arabic programing"  WTF!?
06:11 BatSteve Thermoelectric: what's the sterile insect technique?
06:11 astro73|alice BatSteve: i know vim better than emacs, but i would like to learn emacs because i do not like modal editing
06:11 astro73|alice eadthem: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Customized_Geany_IDE.png
06:11 BotSteve Title: File:Customized Geany IDE.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
06:12 Thermoelectric BatSteve, Something to do with insects being irradiated to sterilize them, stopping them from breeding.
06:12 BatSteve astro: I feel like nobody learns more than the very basics of emacs unless they're already committed to using it on a full-time basis
06:12 eadthem ya  it has 2 settings   normal or inverse    normal is black on white    and inverse is white on black
06:12 BatSteve huh
06:13 BatSteve that seems very boring, thermo,
06:13 eadthem talking about geany
06:13 BatSteve I would do the submarine one.
06:13 astro73|alice BatSteve: of course, i use actual gui editors these days
06:14 BatSteve Same.  But now that my phone is enough of a computer that it can SSH to my home desktop, I've started to re-appreciate terminal editors that I can run under "screen"
06:14 astro73|alice eadthem: http://www.geany.org/Documentation/FAQ#QQuestions7
06:14 BotSteve Title: Geany : FAQ
06:14 Thermoelectric BatSteve, there are a lot of other options, but they don't really say much... Submarines don't even really use radiation to produce oxygen, they just electrolyze it.
06:14 astro73|alice BatSteve: my chromebook does sorta the same thing, but i started looking into web-based editors
06:15 BatSteve Thermoelectric: darn.
06:15 BatSteve astro73|alice: I honestly don't know how I feel about that.
06:16 astro73|alice it's just another interface, isn't it?
06:16 astro73|alice think of it as a different kind of thinclient
06:16 astro73|alice also, i would like to self-host when i have time to write the glue code i need
06:17 BatSteve I know.  I think it's just that writing code is one of the very few things that you can still do nowadays without an internet connection (assuming you've got the language reference docs downloaded)
06:17 astro73|alice true
06:17 lwq1996 mmmm kool-aid and soup :P
06:17 astro73|alice and when i'm at home i use local tools
06:17 wannabe1987 more soup?
06:17 lwq1996 oh yeah its good soup!!!!!!!
06:18 astro73|alice because my chromebook isn't big enough to do full code/debug/reference/file management comfortably
06:19 BatSteve big in terms of size or big in terms of processing power?
06:20 astro73|alice size
06:20 astro73|alice and processing power, but it's not doing the heavy lifting
06:22 astro73|alice Cloud9 is one of the few online IDEs i've found, and it's decent
06:22 eadthem netbeans is looking very promiseing
06:22 astro73|alice they really need a GUI front end to git, though
06:22 eadthem i know its probably written in java but it feels like c++
06:23 Toastdude New element: Obnoxygen. Atomic number: 152. Atomic weight: ∞. Properties: Gas at all temeratures. Annoys the subject when inhaled.
06:23 astro73|alice i don't like a lot of the bigger IDEs. They take soo long to load and i don't need that many features.
06:23 BatSteve I'm not sure that a GUI exists yet that could effectively harness all the power that git has
06:23 astro73|alice BatSteve: not all of it. But at least the basics would be nice
06:23 astro73|alice pull, push, commit, merge, checkout, branch, tag
06:24 wannabe1987 i tuned him out...is that ok?
06:25 wannabe1987 Toastdude
06:25 Toastdude What?
06:25 wannabe1987 you liked it
06:27 wannabe1987 "its a ford"  no, hun, its a dodge....
06:27 wannabe1987 i win a cookie, right?
06:27 wannabe1987 right?!
06:28 wannabe1987 Toastdude: give me ecookies
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06:29 wannabe1987 hi jess
06:29 Toastdude .cookie wannabe1987
06:29 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a double chocolate cookie!
06:29 wannabe1987 thank you!
06:29 Toastdude I has Russian tea cakes :D
06:29 KawaiiJess Ohai
06:29 Toastdude I could eat a million with no trouble..
06:30 wannabe1987 fatty
06:30 wannabe1987 lol
06:30 Toastdude Yup :P
06:31 Toastdude You have eaten them, right?
06:31 wannabe1987 no
06:31 Toastdude :O
06:31 BatSteve Suppose I have a class that contains a method that I want to execute in a loop, but I only want to execute it every N times through the loop
06:31 Toastdude They're amazing
06:31 BatSteve Which makes more sense, to put the counter in the loop or in the class?
06:32 BatSteve *that I want to execute DURING a loop
06:32 Toastdude Well make an increment of N + 1 or something in the loop, and check if N = the number you want
06:32 astro73|alice BatSteve: from an encapsulation point of view, who cares about the occasional execution/
06:32 Toastdude Oh, nevermind
06:33 astro73|alice alternatively, would an implementation with a different backend still need to have it executed every several?
06:34 astro73|alice which end provides the reason that you have to call it that way?
06:35 wannabe1987 mmmmi ts david tenant :)
06:35 BatSteve no, the backend has nothing to do with it, it's strictly for convenience.  I want to run one loop and inside the loop hit every module that watches either a youtube or a forum RSS
06:36 astro73|alice so it's a scheduling thing
06:36 BatSteve and I want the forum checked only once an hour (because it's spammy), but I want youtube checked every minute
06:36 BatSteve yes
06:36 astro73|alice sounds like you're adding a cron to BotSteve.
06:37 BatSteve nah, I'm just refactoring RSS.py.   https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve/issues/44
06:37 BotSteve Title: #44: entire RSS file makes babies cry - Issues - Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve - GitHub
06:37 astro73|alice I would say that the class needs to have flags for when to execute it, but it's the loop's job to determine which loops to execute what
06:37 Coderjoe gibroni (shouldn't that be gibrony?) in the morning looks weird
06:37 tehdark45 how do you know you dont Coderjoe? :P
06:38 BatSteve Coderjoe: only if gibroni was also a brony
06:38 Coderjoe BatSteve: his computer wallpaper doesn't show that?
06:38 tehdark45 BatSteve, he is ._.
06:38 BatSteve didn't know that
06:39 BatSteve astro73|alice: oh, I'm an idiot.
06:39 astro73|alice BatSteve: oh?
06:39 tehdark45 there is a bronmance in master control
06:39 tehdark45 lol
06:39 BatSteve we can just set N in __init__
06:39 astro73|alice if you say so
06:39 BatSteve ::shrug::  it's 0139 and I'm coding while sleepy...this can't possibly go wrong.
06:40 tehdark45 BatSteve, the best code comes around @ 3am :P
06:43 egrsteve night all
06:43 wannabe1987 night steve,
06:43 wannabe1987 BatSteve, of course not
06:43 tehdark45 bye egrsteve
06:58 Sgt_Lemming so... interesting though
06:59 Sgt_Lemming I now have a psu capable of a sustained 12KVDC at about 200mA
06:59 Sgt_Lemming thinking what would be like making a Telsa Coil powered off it
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07:08 lwq1996 ok guys its my bed time
07:08 lwq1996 later
07:09 BatSteve seeya
07:09 wannabe1987 bye
07:10 lwq1996 night kellers and batsteve :P
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07:13 wannabe1987 BotSteve: is it can be has bed time now?
07:13 BatSteve astro73|alice: comments welcome.  https://github.com/Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve/blob/master/modules/rss.py
07:13 BotSteve Title: modules/rss.py at master from Steve-V/tgg-BotSteve - GitHub
07:14 BatSteve that goes for everyone else too.
07:16 wannabe-zz nigth all
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07:17 astro73|alice that seems like a decent way to do things
07:18 astro73|alice isn't the frequency of updates dependant on the class, not the caller?
07:18 BatSteve only after it's all done did I realize I should have written one watcher class and then inherited for RSS or YouTube
07:18 BatSteve crap
07:18 astro73|alice also, NEW STYLE CLASSES
07:18 BatSteve oh well.
07:19 BatSteve new style classes?
07:19 astro73|alice for the love of god and all things holy
07:19 astro73|alice inherit from object
07:19 astro73|alice you get good behaviors then
07:20 BatSteve http://www.python.org/doc/newstyle/
07:20 BatSteve that?
07:20 BotSteve Title: New-style Classes
07:20 astro73|alice yeah
07:20 BatSteve aight, I'll read up on that tomorrow.
07:20 astro73|alice they've been available since i started programming python
07:20 astro73|alice and all new code should be using them
07:21 astro73|alice (this is one of those things that falls into the "i will beat you" category)
07:21 Toastdude Yay, I just saw Saturn!
07:21 BatSteve My excuse is that up until a couple months ago I was entirely self-taught.
07:21 BatSteve And the one class that I did take taught me almost nothing.
07:21 BatSteve But I'll check it out.
07:22 BatSteve (this is not an excuse for not doing it, it's an excuse for not knowing it)
07:23 astro73|alice all my python is self-taught and i still know it
07:24 astro73|alice also, intervalExecute() should take a time, so that you have some reference and more flexability
07:24 BatSteve Time meaning seconds?
07:25 BatSteve or whatever...yeah
07:25 BatSteve good idea
07:27 astro73|alice also, you should rewrite your thread there to be in the run() method of a class inheriting from DaemonThread
07:31 BatSteve Please continue shooting ideas my way.  I'm going to go be unconscious and hallucinate for a while.
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07:59 Druidic_Rifleman whats up
08:11 BotSteve 1 new forum post ( http://goo.gl/t0vze ): BotSteve testing
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11:25 angy morning
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12:06 Sgt_Lemming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euthanasia_Coaster <--- morbidly awesome
12:06 BotSteve Title: Euthanasia Coaster - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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12:34 HighMan|Sleepish Morning
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12:43 TwirlyWhirly555 Hi .
12:45 TwirlyWhirly555 Does anyone have any knolage on LiFePO4 Battery cells ?
12:46 Sgt_Lemming a bit, why?
12:47 HighMan A Lithium Iron Phosphate
12:48 TwirlyWhirly555 well i have a 6S pack , and when charging one of the cells gose way above the 3.65v limit , colse to 4v while the otheres hardly move ( even when balancing the pack )  , is that a sign of a failing cell ?
12:48 HighMan Yay! I got that right xD
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12:51 TwirlyWhirly555 i have anothere 6S pack , and when charging that , balancing or not , they all end up at the 3.6v cut off and are happy :D
12:55 HighMan Have they been balanced right... (Idk I know nothing xD)
12:57 Sgt_Lemming TwirlyWhirly555, that sounds to me more like the charger is busted
12:57 TwirlyWhirly555 first time round they were all balanced to 3.6v each in both packs , each charge cycle i balance to keep them all close to each othere , but now one cell in one of the packs seems to climb way above the rest
12:57 Sgt_Lemming failing cells generally don't overvolt
12:58 TwirlyWhirly555 hmm okies , thanks , not sure why its not affected the othere pack though only this one .
13:00 TwirlyWhirly555 not sure what to do then really .
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13:31 HighMan I somehow have a zip file that can crash explorer once right clicked on?
13:34 HighMan When I ope it in the hex editor, it shows as 00 50 4b 05 06 and a 18 00's. Then PK with 20 periods
13:34 Sgt_Lemming HighMan, probably a corrupted file and when explorer tries to read the metadata it borks it
13:34 KB3NZQ HighMan doesn't  supprise me
13:34 HighMan What ever it is, it's cool! XD
13:35 KB3NZQ i have a 2tb ext  formatted ntfs  there is stuff i need to wipe off of it but as soon as a try to delete it bsod  of kernel panaic
13:36 HighMan KB3NZQ, If you want to wipe it just format it?
13:36 HighMan Or use D-Ban
13:37 KB3NZQ i don't want to format it there is still stuff i need on it i just don't have the extra drive space to copy all the stuff i still need then format it
13:37 HighMan Then boot in to linux
13:37 HighMan Then mount it and delete it?
13:38 KB3NZQ tried that already
13:38 HighMan What happened, it wouldn't mount?
13:38 KB3NZQ no it would mount but as soon as i try to delete os crashes
13:39 HighMan xD, run a diag through the HD
13:39 HighMan Do a chkdsk
13:40 Druidic_Rifleman who is twirlywhirly555
13:40 HighMan Some new guy/gal
13:40 Druidic_Rifleman or was
13:40 KB3NZQ i have done everything i can to fix this it will have to wait till i can pickup a nother 2tb to backup what i still need
13:40 HighMan Chkdsk din't work either?
13:40 KB3NZQ nope
13:40 HighMan Damn wtf
13:41 HighMan Can you even open it? Run it through AV?
13:41 HighMan I'm just throwing optiosn now
13:41 KB3NZQ i used the drive mostly on my mac with a driver for NTFS
13:41 HighMan Will it delelte on mac or will it crash too?
13:42 KB3NZQ cash
13:42 BitViper KB3NZQ : you think its corrupt files, or bad sectors ?
13:42 HighMan Bad Sectors would most likely be caught by a chkdsk... Am I right?
13:42 HighMan Also morning BitViper
13:42 BitViper you'd think, but depeends on at what level
13:42 KB3NZQ idk  but it will have to wait  i 'm leaning towards bitrot
13:43 BitViper let me reask the question : do you think its file system related, or physical disk related problem ?
13:43 KB3NZQ fs
13:43 KB3NZQ time for me to leave for church  ttfn
13:44 BitViper personally i dont trust chkdsk any farther than i can throw an elephant but ...
13:44 HighMan xD ^
13:44 BitViper chkdsk imo does more damage than good
13:44 HighMan Isn't there a linux utility for repair hds?
13:44 HighMan *cmd prompt
13:45 BitViper specificly chkdsk doesnt do any attempt at data recovery, it just makes the file system look right again, without worrying about the fact that in most cases this irrepariably corrupts the relevant files
13:45 HighMan lol
13:45 HighMan It's half way fixed ;)
13:45 BitViper if you want real data recovery, use spinrite
13:45 HighMan I remember once when I accidently delted my dad's ext hd partition
13:46 BitViper HighMan : oops
13:46 HighMan Yep lol
13:46 HighMan SpinRite ain't free :P Use recuva
13:47 BitViper nope spinrite aint free, but for data recovery and hd maintenance its worth every penny imo
13:47 BitViper ive used it since it existed
13:47 wannabe-zz http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/internet-memes-stare-if-you-dare.jpg  take this, put cory's photo in it from the stomper vid, and keep the words, and voila!  new meme!
13:47 HighMan Dang... The only data recovery i used was like recuva
13:47 BitViper never even heard of it
13:48 HighMan It's a basic little file recovery app from piriform (creaeter of defraggler and ccleaner)
13:48 HighMan Though I have used Testdisk (WAY TO ADVANCED for me atleast)
13:49 BitViper not to promote theft, but there is at least one copy of spinrite in the wild, shouldnt be hard to find
13:50 HighMan Ehh lol
13:50 HighMan I have never needed any sort of recovery services...
13:51 HighMan I almost had a crash but S.M.A.R.T. warned me first
13:51 Sgt_Lemming http://i41.tinypic.com/153r3ph.jpg
13:52 HighMan Sgt_Lemming, XD
13:52 HighMan Yet Liz is the girl
13:52 HighMan I'm not being sexist in anyway.
13:52 wannabe-zz WIN
13:53 HighMan When was spinrite last updated/
13:54 BitViper a couple years ago, it doesnt need updated often
13:54 BitViper current version is 6
13:54 HighMan Ah ok, I'm watching a video of it right now lol
13:58 Nazca HighMan: SMART is bloody dumb :p
13:58 HighMan Nazca, xD I don't know the mechanics but I got another HD after the SMART errors came pu
13:59 Nazca I don't think more than 1 in 50 drive failures I've had to deal with have actually had SMART claim anything was in the least bit wrong
13:59 Nazca sure a couple of the numbers were a little out from normal but all were well within limits
13:59 HighMan I probably should of run some manual Diag....
14:00 Nazca the usual reason is because the drive failures I've dealt with recently lump in to two categories
14:00 Nazca category 1 is the joy that is Crucial M4 drives
14:01 masterofmonks .
14:01 BotSteve masterofmonks: I have the following messages for you:
14:01 BotSteve At 04:00Z, roadran422 asked me to tell masterofmonks is it making them scared? Being a smart allec?
14:01 HighMan Category 2? Also what was wrong with those Crucial Drives?
14:01 HighMan Morning masterofmonks
14:01 HighMan Why the "."...
14:02 Nazca Crucial, who managed to ship a bloody expensive enterprise grade SSD with a bug in it's firmware that caused it to hang every time it tried to update the on hours counter in the SMART memory once that counter hit right around 5182 hours
14:02 masterofmonks Because I knew that there were messages.
14:02 HighMan How? I pm'd BotSteve..
14:02 Nazca yes... 5182 hours, give or take a day
14:02 HighMan .c 5182/24
14:02 BotSteve 215.916667
14:03 Nazca when we found out about this lovely little bug I checked 4 of them and every single one was within a couple of hours of 5205 hours
14:03 HighMan xD Was there any firmware fixes
14:03 Nazca oh yes, and a very nice and easy too to apply it ... this wouldn't actually be a problem if we didn't have well over a hundred of the damn things in service
14:04 HighMan Also OCZ SSDs for the win!
14:05 Nazca better than the poor client who had 8 of them in a production raid array and sat there and watched every single one of them drop away one after another as they hit their counter limits, with no way of updating the firmware because of the controller they were on
14:05 Nazca we ended up taking them out and upgrading the firmware for him in remote hands time... not cheap
14:05 HighMan XD That sucks
14:06 Nazca I love OCZ though .... I played with one of their R4 series Z-Drives ... oh man that thing is sexy
14:06 HighMan All of the HD's in the raid array failed
14:06 * Druidic_Rifleman yawns "vampire time sucks
14:06 HighMan I'm jealous of my uncle, he has 2 AWESOME computers!
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14:06 HighMan Morning Druidic_Rifleman
14:06 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm
14:07 wannabe-zz vampire time?
14:07 Druidic_Rifleman a term coined by a friend of mine to describe my sleep habits
14:07 HighMan Druidic_Rifleman, Night? Vampires hate sun... So...
14:07 wannabe-zz ahhhh
14:07 Nazca the array rebuilt when the drives were upgraded and stuck back in since the array will have halted the moment it went over it's redundancy limit... the data is fine... hell the drive work fine without the firmware upgrade so long as you don't mind hard rebooting every hour
14:08 HighMan At least no data was lost...
14:08 * HighMan Stores live time data with those Hard Drive's in raid 0.
14:09 Nazca the second category of drives are just as expensive.... 600GB 2.5" Velocaraptor SAS drives
14:09 wannabe-zz bbl church time noa
14:09 wannabe-zz nao*
14:09 HighMan Cya wannabe-zz
14:10 Nazca had half a dozen of those die the same way in the past couple of months... they start spitting lots of errors at the raid card, so we swap them out
14:10 Druidic_Rifleman MMMMM Scotch
14:10 HighMan Why did they do it? Firmware
14:10 Nazca some test out fine, some test out a bit slow but basically ok, others report massive localized surface damage
14:11 Nazca the thing about raptors is they run damn hot... all sas drives do really
14:11 HighMan That's completely rational!
14:12 Nazca my theory on this is that with so many in a case, even with ~12C input air, there just isn't enough airflow to keep them cool
14:12 Nazca so they heat up, the platers expand, and the air cushion starts to get a littttle thin
14:12 HighMan Exploding HD!
14:12 Nazca some give up quickly because the controller over heats, so they test fine
14:13 Nazca some make a slight contact, maybe rub a little of the cobalt away, and those ones test fine but a little slow
14:13 Nazca others make an impact and end up with a chunk of surface damage
14:14 Nazca all depends which part hits critical heat first
14:14 Nazca a couple of them wouldn't detect at all... those perhaps fried their controllers completely
14:14 Nazca of course those drives aren't cheap, so I can't open them up... which means I have no way of actually proving or disproving the theory
14:15 Nazca ah well, I have 3 more of those in my pile of drives waiting test
14:15 HighMan I have a spare laptop hd...
14:15 Nazca one of the perks of my job ... getting to actually handle motherboards and processors that cost over $1000 each
14:16 HighMan What is your job?
14:16 HighMan IT Manager?
14:16 Nazca tech support at a data centre
14:16 HighMan Cool...
14:16 BitViper Nazca : got a couple spares you can send this way ? :)
14:16 Nazca one of the more experienced ones, so I tend to end up doing quite a bit of build work one the really expensive stuff
14:17 HighMan That's nice
14:17 Nazca I wish lol
14:18 Nazca I'd have one of those nice shiny top of the line xeons.... not that I have the motherboard to take one
14:18 HighMan What  confuses me is the difference between a server processor (xeon) and a gaming proccesor (so to speak i7 sandy bride extreme)
14:19 Nazca there's not a whole lot of difference so far as I know beyond manufacturing tolerances
14:19 HighMan As in speed and things like that
14:20 Nazca there's also minor differences in things like cache
14:20 Nazca not so much speed as the ability to maintain the load 24/7 for years on end
14:20 BitViper the big differences are, as Nazca says, in tolerances (durability), and things like the built in caches
14:20 BitViper same for server memory, mobos, and drives
14:21 HighMan Oh... Ok so if I were to game like hell a xeon isn't really a good idea
14:21 Nazca one thing I really like on the new Core i7 range is the AES NI stuff
14:21 BitViper HighMan : unless youre gaming 24/7 then a normal processor whould be fine as long as you have good cooling
14:21 HighMan Ok xD
14:21 * HighMan Brings out liquid nitrogen
14:22 * BitViper wants to get a 4 socket amd server board and load it with 12 core processors, then repeat for 4 units, then liquid cool the lot of em and make a render cluster
14:23 * HighMan Builds a 13 proccessor (i7 sandy bridge extreme) and 14 nvidia high end crossfire gpus. (It's not YET possible0
14:23 angy BitViper: big difference between i7 and W xeon is not tolerances, it's warranty from Intel
14:23 Nazca server memory is different by timings and bus speed, server motherboards are mainly different by size, form factor and having extra stuff on the board .... server drives are generally just ones that are designed with really stupid MTBF values, a bit of extra cache and not much else
14:24 Nazca angy: that warranty /is/ tolerances :p
14:24 angy nope
14:24 angy and for server drives, server grade drives are designed to be able to run 24/7 at certain temperature and have enhanced vibration resistance
14:25 angy or compensation, depend on what side your look
14:25 HighMan Server Stuff = HardCore 24/7, Gaming = Sometimes but speed is crazy
14:25 Nazca bull crap on vibration resistance
14:25 angy (for SATA drives, SAS are quite different)
14:25 angy Nazca: try using comsumer SATA in DAS, you'll cry
14:26 Nazca we do and we don't
14:26 angy then you don't use really use the drives
14:26 angy with consumer SATA drives, our failure rate is roughly 1-4 a day
14:26 BitViper ouch
14:26 Nazca it was true for older drives but not for modern ones, you'd need to drive hit them with a hammer to kill them
14:27 Nazca then you're doing something else wrong
14:27 angy nope, we are /using/ the drives
14:27 angy with other brands and series of drive, it became acceptable to 1-2 a week
14:27 HighMan BitViper, I ran spinrite through vbox just to see raw data going crazy XD
14:27 Nazca or you have a ridiculous number of them ... they simply aren't /that/ bad
14:27 BitViper im glad i buy the good drives since all my machines run 24/7, but i keep them cool, and im not actually writing to them all the time
14:28 HighMan If you want cool SSDs
14:28 BitViper HighMan : it gets boring fast though
14:28 HighMan BitViper, True XD
14:28 angy SSD are not designed to do everything
14:28 angy but are awesome to use for mail queue
14:28 Nazca SSDs aren't designed to do very much :p
14:28 HighMan You can't write and format and write and format multiple times on SSD
14:28 angy HighMan: you definitly can
14:29 HighMan And they can't hold much space that's why you usually have a ssd for OS and a Barricuda 2tb HD for Storage
14:29 HighMan angy, I thought you couldn't? Like you shouldn't be defragging or d-banning sdds
14:29 Nazca fast access but they still have way to high failure rate on the the cheaper drives and the expensive ones are stupid expensive
14:29 BitViper ssd's server a very narrow purpose range imo, but they do serve that purpose range very well
14:29 HighMan There are like special software for really wipping ssds
14:30 angy defrag is way more FS wise than hardware wise
14:30 HighMan BitViper, Do you think the raw data snapshot is fake? Maybe it's just random shit coming and going lol
14:30 BitViper HighMan : its very real
14:30 HighMan lol
14:30 Nazca but seriously, if you're killing drives that fast you either have enough drives to bring MTBF to a statistical likelihood or you've got something wrong with the setup
14:30 HighMan FS <--- what?
14:30 BitViper file system
14:30 HighMan I'm running 50 crappy ssd's in raid 0! Nothing will happen!
14:30 angy Nazca: nothing wrong with the setup, just you have to find drives that are able to handle the load you use
14:31 HighMan angy, Well if not defrag it's not a good idea to format them and write to them often
14:31 angy like if you use western digital, you know it will likely fail a lot
14:31 Nazca oh now let me guess... you're going to recommend Maxtor? :p
14:31 HighMan XD ^
14:31 angy hitachi is currently the best we foud
14:31 HighMan I haven't seen a maxtor hd in a bit
14:32 HighMan SeagatE?
14:32 angy seagate is for SAS
14:32 HighMan OH derp maxtor is now seagate..
14:32 Nazca hitachi aren't hugely pleasant either
14:33 Nazca WD RE4s on the other hand have given us very little issues
14:33 HighMan OCZ vs Kingston vs Crucial
14:34 Nazca Kingston sucks for SSDs, don't touch them
14:34 angy RE4 have troubles with megaraid
14:34 angy for SSD, go Intel
14:34 HighMan Crucial is good for memory, I say OCZ for any ssd or maybe intel
14:34 Nazca Crucial are ok, if prone to screwing things up
14:34 Nazca Intel .. meh, not bad but not great either
14:34 HighMan I don't know much bout hardware.... But i'd think OCZ is very good
14:34 Nazca OCZ rock ... support wise as well as product wise
14:35 angy we tested a lot of SSD, the best we found is X25-M Intel SSD
14:35 * HighMan looks at the most expensive ocz drive
14:35 Nazca megaraid ... seriously? you like LShite junk?
14:35 angy what do you use?
14:36 HighMan WTF where the hell have I been.
14:36 HighMan I have never heard of a damn 1TB SSD
14:36 Nazca LSI buying 3ware/AMCC was the worst thing thing that's happened to the raid market in years
14:36 HighMan I must be living under a f'ng rock
14:37 Nazca we're desperately searching for something that isn't LSI and still stuck with them
14:37 angy yeah, good luck with finding something esle
14:37 angy but all depend on what you do...
14:37 * HighMan I think I should be reading up on Maximum Pc a bit more..
14:39 Nazca MPT2SAS is a joke, Megaraid is barely functional (what kind of dumb controller doesn't have JBOD?) ... they seem utterly incapable of being consistent with their firmware, features or software... their drivers are a headache, they fail on far too regular basis ... urg, crap, just plain simple crap
14:39 angy I don't consider JBOD to be a feature that should be included
14:39 HighMan Everyone who has said someting on IRC today/yesterday should get a "Kingston DataTraveler HyperX 3.0 USB flash drive - 256 GB "
14:40 angy funnily, we don't have as much trouble with megaraid as we had with anything else we tested
14:41 Nazca they sell fucking 16 port raid cards.  JBOD is /essential/ for people two need to do something more creative with the drives than their stupidly limited raid options allow
14:41 masterofmonks http://www.wimp.com/gracehopper/
14:41 BotSteve Title: Grace Hopper demonstrates the nanosecond. [VIDEO]
14:41 angy JBOD is just considered so much useless here...
14:41 Nazca the only redeeming feature is that when megaraid works it actually does manage to work better
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14:43 HighMan Morning pockitaru
14:43 pockitaru yawn sup
14:44 HighMan Pus
14:44 Nazca yeah, I can think of 4 use cases for JBOD just off the top of my head... ZFS, distributed storage, complex software raid, ATAoE/iSCSI/FC where want the drives intact
14:44 angy JBOD for ZFS? /really/?
14:45 HighMan Is /word/ italicized?
14:45 angy for ZFS just go with independdent addressing
14:45 Nazca dude, it's an LSI raid card .... they don't let you do that
14:45 angy they *do* let you do that
14:45 angy I do it with my LSI cards
14:45 pockitaru man im tierd lol
14:46 * HighMan SHH! They are having a geek feud! **Eating pop corn**
14:46 Nazca you're right ... there is one LSI card I know that will do it ... MPT2SAS
14:46 * BitViper grabs a bowl of popcorn too
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14:47 Nazca the card that requires you to flash the firmware to change between IT and IR, and requires you to by a little two wire add on board to get raid5 support
14:47 Nazca I'll pass on that piece of junk thanks
14:47 angy then you don't have the right megaraid cards
14:48 angy if you use the feature line, these are useless
14:48 angy and I kind of bet you are talking entry line with that
14:49 HighMan .tfw 34208
14:49 angy if you don't use megaraid_sas, you don't use megaraid and use just some useless cards
14:49 BotSteve 63 degrees F?! ITS FUCKING ....ALRIGHT IN Bradenton, FL!  'Where life is mediocre'
14:49 Nazca you know, it is possible that the $600-$800 raid cards are classed as entry line, but with that kind of money I expect them to at least have the ability to ACT AS A FRACKING HDA
14:50 * HighMan Gets more butter.
14:50 angy use megaraid_sas instead of MPT2SAS
14:50 Nazca dude
14:50 Nazca LSI MegaRAID SAS 9260-8i KIT Storage controller (RAID)- Serial ATA-300 / SAS- 600 MBps
14:50 Nazca doesn't have
14:50 angy that's useless card
14:51 angy megaraid useful ones are only 9280 series
14:51 angy and 9260 cards have the feature to only act HBA as well
14:51 angy I think we had one somewhere and used it for ZFS
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14:52 HighMan eadthem!
14:52 eadthem HighMan!!
14:52 HighMan Hi lol
14:52 Nazca seriously, I've lost at least 100 hours of my life so far beating those 9260s in to functioning ... I KNOW THE SUCK
14:52 Nazca jeeze
14:52 * HighMan Gets more popcorn.
14:53 BitViper HighMan : eat slower
14:54 HighMan BitViper, XD
14:54 Nazca if I knew why they kept buying the damn things I might have more of an idea how to get them to stop
14:56 Druidic_Rifleman ugh i so do not feellike staying up longer
14:56 Nazca but really ... Adaptec, SUCK (but hey, it does JBOD :P) ... highpoint, total joke ... which leaves us with who? LS fucking I
14:56 angy yeah, we used 9260, but with custom firware from LSI
14:57 Nazca yeah, I don't even bother trying to get support from LSI ... slow, uncooperative and plain obstructive
14:57 angy depend a lot on how much you spend with them
14:58 * HighMan Out of ppcorn ;(
14:58 Nazca well yea, we won't give them money cause they make shit :p
14:58 angy nearly every LSI card we use have custom firmware from them to tweak them the way we want
14:58 angy that may also be why we don't have problems with them
14:58 Nazca then yes, you wouldn't have problems with them
14:59 angy we do the same with intel and sun (now oracle)
15:01 Nazca ah yes, I bet that's why they won't buy the 9280 cards... you have to pay a stupid amount of money for them
15:01 HighMan Druidic_Rifleman, Go to sleep buddy boy
15:01 angy one 9280 is ~$5-600 here
15:02 HighMan 5 dollars?
15:02 angy 500 to 600
15:02 HighMan I failed xD
15:02 angy 5$ would be only the 9280 label
15:02 HighMan XD
15:03 Nazca brill ... now find me a 9280 with 8 ports internal
15:03 angy 9280-16i4e
15:04 angy or 9280-4i4e with the tiny e->i bracket
15:04 Nazca no ... I want 9280-8i
15:04 angy or 9280-8e with the tiny e->i bracket
15:04 angy you can have it, but you'll have to get in touch with LSI
15:05 Nazca that's like saying you have to contact the manufacturer if you want to have airbags and brakes on the same model
15:05 angy I think there is a 9281-8i that exists, but is a speciality card
15:06 angy not really, they got a line of model as car manufacturer. it's like asking for a V10 engine on a small city car
15:06 * BitViper pictures a v10 in his dodge shadow :)
15:07 * HighMan Hates popcorn ;)
15:07 Nazca well no ... because 8 internal ports and the ability to act as a plain adapter is really the most basic feature set I would expect of an 8 port raid card
15:07 angy I use 4i4e with 8 internal drives
15:07 Nazca I don't want a 16+4 or a 24+4 ... I need 8 internal drives
15:08 Nazca "you can have your air bag... we'll tape some balloons to the steering wheel and you'll be fine"
15:08 angy in fact, I use it with 12 internal drives
15:09 * BitViper tapes a politician to his steering wheel ... same hot air, more padding
15:09 eadthem well i think netbeans wins the IDE compitition
15:10 eadthem its already done better than eclipse   as it hasnt hit any sleep(10000) yet
15:10 Nazca yeah, I'm familiar with this idea of taking a multilane cable and loading 8 drives on to it ... I really don't approve of it
15:10 BitViper eadthem : i like eclipse, if only i could get arduino properly set up in it =(
15:11 angy if you use SATA, I see your point, if you use SAS, I don't see it
15:11 BitViper cuz arduino's "gui" sucks dead donky arse
15:11 eadthem dont know about arduino
15:11 eadthem i code my AVR in avrstudio
15:11 Nazca netbeans was great til they started dropping languages... python and ruby? who needs them ¬_¬
15:11 eadthem in ASM
15:11 * BitViper docks eadthem's geek cred
15:12 eadthem i mean AVR ASM is like coding visual basic
15:12 eadthem its very easy
15:12 eadthem prob the best realistic mix is c for functions and some other structure  but code in asm       the only annoying thing about AVRASM is including other files
15:14 Nazca no, you're going to have to run that by me again .... SATA at 6Gbps you see my point but SAS at 6Gbps you don't
15:14 eadthem what is arduino in     c with some arduino librarys to make it easyer?
15:15 eadthem Nazca whats ruby like
15:15 eadthem i mean my scripting is done exclusivly in PHP    ive meddled with python a bit  but ive never see ruby
15:15 Nazca eadthem: if you like building houses out of bricks, and you have a pile of bricks ... and want a house ... you'll be fine, it's lovely
15:16 BitViper eadthem : yes, duino is c with custom libs
15:17 BitViper the custom libs are, afaik, mostly about making a simple programming api rather than any special internal code
15:17 Nazca if you've got a bunch of logs and what you really need is a bridge ... well tough luck, cause you're still going to be building a house out of bricks, it's just the wrong shape and more flamable
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15:17 BitViper Nazca : rotfl rotfl, this is ruby or python youre describing ?
15:17 Roadran422 Whoops
15:18 Nazca but my opinion is highly biased, since really the only selling point for me about Ruby is Rails, and Rails is a waste of effort if you don't want to build a web app
15:18 Nazca ruby
15:18 BitViper ugh, i think youre being generous
15:18 BitViper *shudder*
15:18 Nazca python it doesn't matter what you have, you really don't want to ever build a house out of it :p
15:18 BitViper hahahaha
15:19 HighMan /shit
15:19 eadthem sometimes i think we have to many languiges
15:19 Nazca bridges, firetrucks, trees, cows... doesn't even matter if you have bricks or logs or bits of lego ... so long as you space the damn things properly you can build it
15:19 BitViper Nazca : want to have real fun, build a web app in RPG :)
15:19 Nazca as long as it isn't a house, cause no one ever wants to build a house that way
15:20 Nazca things are better now with WSGI... but it's still a painful exercise
15:20 Nazca been there, done it, never again
15:20 BitViper hahaha, i havent done rpg since the web existed, but can imagine the pain
15:20 eadthem i mean  c/c++/c++x0 there ok     ile let java live    PHP for web     perl is useful  so could be python    LUA is nice for dynamic scripting in C/C++/C++x0
15:20 Nazca and it's a real shame, cause damn does python have awesome string interpolation features
15:21 * BitViper is a perl guy
15:21 Nazca "%(fruit)s are %(colour)s"%{'colour': "red", 'fruit': "strawberries"}
15:21 BitViper ive done most of the others (no python or ruby thankfully) but not much
15:22 Nazca "%(fruit)s are %(colour)s.  I love to eat %(fruit)s."%{'colour': "red", 'fruit': "strawberries"}
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15:22 Nazca now replace the string and the dict with variables
15:23 eadthem but ive never seen the need for delphi  ruby  c# visual basic, D++ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programming_languages    i mean thers a whole bunch that probably noobody but the creator uses
15:23 BotSteve Title: List of programming languages - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
15:23 Nazca that right there is why I love python
15:23 HighMan I thought it said problematic languages xD
15:26 eadthem well ya maby delphi   ive known some good programs written in it
15:27 Nazca lets see... I've written large quantities of code in C, C#, java, php, perl, python, ruby, javascript, sql (mysql really, but I've done a little with mssql and sqllite), bash, tcl, pascal, half a dozen different basics, mirc ... I've played with asm but never really cared for it ... brainfuck makes me giggle ... any Turing complete esoteric does ... I played with LSL but quit before it ate my life ... objective C I never saw the point in ... I've
15:27 Nazca done C++ and come away thinking "well that was largely pointless" ... I feel like I'm missing languages still
15:28 Nazca lets see, Actionscript, but that's really just javascript by another name
15:28 eadthem isnt tcl python
15:28 Nazca oh heck no
15:28 Nazca tcl is incredible and yet so mind bogglingly frustrating
15:28 eadthem i alwase see python interpiters with tc and tcl
15:29 Nazca awk is cool, but barely a language any more than sed is
15:29 Nazca though I suppose I should count Make as well if they class awk as a real language :p
15:29 eadthem alwase assumed tcl was the orignal name or something and thats why every python install ive seen has had tcl and such file names with iut
15:30 eadthem well ya you call all the document defintion languiges
15:30 Nazca ooooh no... I'll see if I can find some of my tcl lying around
15:30 eadthem make html xml latex ...
15:30 Nazca I once tried Coldfusion ... I think I was sick for a week
15:31 Nazca latex is tasty, though I don't write it directly
15:31 eadthem i consider make and cmake and such to be  kinda like xml    its realy more a way of defining settings than a accual languige
15:31 Nazca chef is downright awesome
15:31 HighMan Anyone have an idea on how to remove burnt plastic from a soldering iron tip?
15:32 Nazca you've got things like Eiffel and lisp and cobal and erlang ... and I've never really seen the need to do more than glance at them and go "yeah, and?"
15:32 Nazca HighMan: by buying a new tip?
15:32 eadthem corse im guilty of makeing my own languige i guess    SCS  simple config system http://final.servegame.com/public/stormwarn2/bin/VTEC.scs http://final.servegame.com/public/stormwarn2/bin/config.scs
15:33 HighMan Nazca, :P
15:33 Nazca don't sand it, don't file it ... don't heat it and wash it ... don't try to chemical it away ... maybe a knife and a lot of cuts?
15:33 eadthem highman   chip it off with a simi dull instruement once cool
15:33 eadthem well heat it up and whipe off most of it
15:33 eadthem but not hot enough to melt the solder
15:33 HighMan It's not variable.
15:34 HighMan It's 10 bucks from radio shack :P
15:34 * HighMan using sandpaper
15:34 eadthem time is
15:34 eadthem what i would realy do
15:34 eadthem keep that tip for plastics and get a new one
15:34 eadthem thats what i finaly did for my Xytronic
15:34 HighMan I have no money XD and no solder, and I'm doing it because I'm bored.
15:34 HighMan Also... I have nothing for electronis
15:35 Nazca right, so here's the thing about tcl
15:35 Nazca in python everything is a pointer ... that's it's schtick and we love it
15:35 Nazca in tcl... everything is a command
15:36 eadthem i c
15:36 Nazca as in... the only piece of syntax is the function call
15:36 Nazca if? function call
15:37 Nazca data types? got none
15:38 eadthem i still wonder why the python interperater has a tcl and tk  named files
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15:38 Nazca cause tcl and tk get extended in to just about everything probably
15:38 Nazca and cause python extends just about everything ever made
15:38 Nazca so here's a while loop in tcl
15:39 Nazca while {$x < 5} {
15:39 Nazca puts "x is $x"
15:39 Nazca set x [expr {$x + 1}]
15:39 Nazca }
15:39 eadthem bit dirty
15:39 Nazca while is a command ... it's being passed two arguments
15:39 Nazca need a for loop?
15:40 Nazca for {set i 0} {$i < 10} {incr i} {
15:40 Nazca puts "I inside first loop: $i"
15:40 Nazca }
15:40 Nazca yup, it's a command, this time with 4 arguments
15:40 Nazca need a control structure tcl doesn't have? that's ok ... you can make your own
15:40 Nazca it's just a command after all
15:41 Nazca and that's it ... everything in the language is based off the idea that everything is a command ... so you can make ANYTHING in tcl itself
15:42 eadthem how dose netbeans define path varables?
15:42 Nazca really mind bogglingly cool, right?
15:42 Nazca the problem is that set line up there
15:42 eadthem like  $(PANDA1_7)python\include  in vs    ${PANDA1_7}python\include  in eclipse     %PANDA1_7%python\include in batch
15:42 Nazca set x [expr {$x + 1}]
15:43 Nazca imagine trying to do something non-trivial with a language like this
15:44 Nazca it starts to look like this
15:44 Nazca if [expr [string first # $location]-1] { } { putserv "privmsg $chani :Mode change where?!?"; return 0 }
15:45 Nazca and this ... if [llength [list $newword]] { if [llength [list $newmean]] {
15:45 Nazca putserv "privmsg $chan :CPU time stats :Amount of time in user mode : [duration [expr [lindex $loadavg 1]/100]] :|: low priority user (nice) mode : [duration [expr [lindex $loadavg 2]/100]] :|: system mode : [duration [expr [lindex $loadavg 3]/100]] :|: idle : [duration [expr [lindex $loadavg 4]/100]]"
15:47 Nazca yeah ... and THAT is still fairly trivial
15:48 Nazca I mean don't get me wrong ... tcl is just ... awesome .... really, really awesome
15:48 Nazca in very much the same way as the shrunken quarters are really, really awesome actually
15:50 Nazca it looks cool .... when you explain what it is and how it works it can blow peoples minds with how awesome it is ... it's really handy for showing off just how cool you are to be able to do it in the first place .... it's really, really neat
15:50 Nazca but you can't spend a shrunken quarter, which is really the only day to day practical use of a normal quarter
15:51 Nazca and you can't write anything serious with tcl ... which is really the only practical purpose anyone has for learning a language in the first place
15:51 HighMan It's always about money :P
15:51 Nazca so yeah .... tcl is like brainfuck, but you can actually write something useful in it
15:52 Nazca just don't expect anyone to take it seriously
15:54 Nazca "so you wrote a thousand line program in something that has functions, a single data type, and not much less .... that's cool and all, but you still can't buy a sandwich with it o_O"
15:55 Nazca (and in case you think I'm kidding... no it really only technically has one data type ... "", {} and [] aren't data types, they're just different kinds of arrays of generic binary data
15:56 Nazca and the generic binary data, no matter what it is, is basically treated as a string
15:56 Nazca code? nope, string that can be interpreted without error
15:56 Nazca ints? nope, strings that can be added together without error
15:57 Nazca variables? nope ... strings that tell you where to find other strings
15:58 Nazca python on the other hand, once you get the basic language syntax out of the way, is nothing but objects
15:59 Nazca even the classes and and primatives are instances of classes
16:01 Nazca see this number 1? NO, PYTHON! (1).__class__ == <type 'int'>
16:01 Nazca (1).__class__.__class__ == <type 'type'>
16:03 Nazca think your booleans are safe?  think again... <type 'bool'>
16:04 Nazca need documentation on something?  that's ok... start a python shell and type in: print True.__doc__
16:04 Nazca instant documentation!
16:05 Nazca urg, that damn tcl has made my head hurt
16:06 HighMan What's tcl Nazca? Can you explain that to us?
16:06 HighMan ;)
16:10 Nazca tcl is the ultimate game of pass the parcel ... code is a string, everything returns a string, and every that is a string can be called if you phrase it right
16:11 Nazca it is possibly the the most polymorphic language I've ever seen
16:11 HighMan Can you give us a few examples as to why it's bs ;)
16:12 Nazca it isn't though, that's the thing
16:12 HighMan :P
16:12 HighMan I'm trying to make your head hurt:P
16:12 Nazca you're a few hours too late ... angy did that ages ago :p
16:12 HighMan XD
16:12 HighMan angy,^
16:17 HighMan Usb Flash drive's aren't hurt by magnets right?
16:18 Nazca no more than any other non-magnetic electronic component
16:18 HighMan ok...
16:34 KB3NZQ HighMan & BitViper i know what i have to do to fix my data problem with the 2TB drive
16:34 HighMan What is it
16:35 KB3NZQ it is just a matter of taking the time to setup a test bench with spinrite and the oem diag software, ect
16:35 HighMan Good luck lol
16:36 KB3NZQ my problem is spinrite will take a few days to run and my mom and dad would not like the fact that i would have 2 towers runing at the same time beacuse of Power usage
16:36 HighMan True... 2tb is a lot of data
16:41 Nazca <HighMan> True... 2tb is a lot of data <--- honestly? no ... not even close
16:42 Nazca it's just that no one thinks on that scale until they have to deal with something that is a lot bigger
16:42 Nazca like a server with 24 3TB drives in it
16:43 Nazca I hear they're considering buying in a chassis that will take 72 1TB drives happily
16:44 KB3NZQ what would a 72 drive  each 1TB in raid 5 be size wise
16:45 Nazca shade under 70TB at a guess
16:46 Nazca you loose 1TB for the parity drive, and some more for meta data on the others... probably not a full tb, but somewhere between 70 and 71 total
16:46 Nazca *lose
16:47 Nazca with that many drives you might as well do stuff like raid 50 or raid 60 though
16:47 Nazca but even those numbers are small change when you start heading up in to real data warehouse applications
16:47 Nazca even the cctv system Chris wants for the lab would eat that kind of array for breakfast
16:48 KB3NZQ i forget what a raid 6 is
16:48 KB3NZQ .w raid 6
16:48 BotSteve "The standard RAID levels are a basic set of RAID configurations and employ striping, mirroring, or parity." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_6
16:48 BitViper KB3NZQ : yeah spinrite in deep mode takes forever, i know this weel
16:48 BitViper *well
16:48 Nazca second parity drive on a slightly different setting
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16:49 BitViper KB3NZQ : v6 though you can run in mode 2 and it will auto switch to the deep modes as necessary
16:49 Nazca with raid you can really only add more spares and more parity, really if you have that many drives you need erasure coded storage
16:49 BitViper 50 = what, raid 5 mirrored ?
16:50 Nazca no... Raid 0 of multiple raid 5 arrays
16:50 KB3NZQ i have played with it before BitViper  but i have only used it to surface scan drives less then 500gb
16:50 BitViper Nazca : which is 0, stripe or mirror, i never can remember
16:50 KB3NZQ stripe
16:50 Nazca 0 is stripe, 1 is mirror
16:51 Nazca think of the number as how safe it makes you feel ... the higher the number the less it will scare you to lose a drive
16:51 BitViper but either way, 50 is make the R5 units first, then use them to make an R0 unit, right ?
16:51 KB3NZQ i have a rosewell rc 200  IDE raid card
16:51 Nazca yes
16:52 Nazca you lose 2 drives from a 50 and you still lose the whole array, but it performs a bit better supposedly
16:52 BitViper Nazca : ive wanted to do an 8 or 10 drive 51 raid for my local storage for a long time, but gets pricy real fast
16:53 Nazca (unless you're really lucky and lose the drives from separate 5's)
16:53 BitViper Nazca : in your opinion, which would be safer/better ... 15 or 51 ?
16:54 KB3NZQ do even begen to build a jbod array  cause you will be totally screwed if one drive dies same w/a raid 0
16:54 Nazca mmmm, probably wouldn't matter much... 15 would be easier to configure, but both have the same failure rate
16:55 KB3NZQ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:RAID_6.svg
16:55 BotSteve Title: File:RAID 6.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:55 Nazca both have about the same write cost as well
16:55 BitViper Nazca : hrm. ok. agreed on the failure part, i keep going back and forth on the configure. but then ive never actually had to configure raid. have never had enough drives to do it with
16:56 Nazca 51 can kill an array with 2 drives dead .... 15 ... guess you could survive 3, but the fourth would kill your array
16:56 Nazca honestly, erasure codes are the new hotness
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16:57 BitViper eh ? 51 with 8 drives should survive any 5 drives failing
16:57 mashpriborintorg hiya
16:57 Nazca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erasure_code
16:57 BotSteve Title: Erasure code - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
16:58 Nazca BitViper: nuh uh ... that's best case scenario and the probability is very low of it happening that way
16:58 BitViper hrm, no, up to 5 drives, depending on the drives
16:58 BitViper yeah, as few as 3 could kill it
16:58 BitViper hrm, could 2 kill it ?
16:59 BitViper how
16:59 Nazca if you set it up as ((a b)(c d)(e f)(g h)) you can lose the whole array with 4 dead drives
16:59 BitViper right
16:59 BitViper im guesing thats a 15 you represent ?
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17:00 wannabe1987 well, that was fun :)  learned about apple trees, grafting and cross polination after church :D
17:01 Nazca urg, yes ... my head is too tired for this stuff lol
17:01 BitViper hahaha
17:02 BitViper how about quantum mechanics instead ? <veg>
17:02 Nazca ((a b)(c d)(e f)(g h)) is worst case 4, ((a b c d)(e f g h)) is also worst case 4 ... my math was just fail
17:02 BitViper welcome back wannabe1987
17:02 wannabe1987 thanks BitViper
17:03 Nazca the former is 15 or 05, the latter is 51 or 50
17:04 BitViper ok, and that would apply the same for a ten disk setup too no ?
17:04 Nazca yea
17:04 wannabe1987 BitViper: any word on zozo?
17:04 BitViper now if drive prices would go back down *grumble*
17:05 HighMan Back
17:05 BitViper wannabe1987 : last word is he's trying to wake up and decide wether to stay with cousin another day and rest up or to head up here this afternoon
17:05 BitViper that was a couple hours ago
17:05 wannabe1987 if i were to have any say i'd say "rest up" and then just come monday....
17:05 * wannabe1987 has to make cookies monday AM before going to the lab
17:06 HighMan Nazca, Hi
17:07 BitViper bahahahahahaha licence plate ... 37OH55V ... lets see who can figure out why its funny first
17:07 BitViper wannabe1987 : i think the other way, get it over with and then relax
17:07 HighMan ETOHSS?
17:07 HighMan ETOHSSU
17:08 wannabe1987 he sounded fully exhausted last night, but its not me thats driving )
17:08 wannabe1987 :)  gotta go set the table
17:08 HighMan BitViper, I don't get it?
17:08 BitViper HighMan : what happens if you mount it wrong ?
17:08 BitViper <G>
17:09 HighMan BitViper, What?
17:09 HighMan I I don't see anything right side up and right side down
17:09 Nazca <BitViper> now if drive prices would go back down *grumble* <--- they'll go back down when they get all the water and mud out of the drive factories
17:09 BitViper try mounting it upside down
17:09 HighMan I did ^
17:10 Nazca asshole :p
17:10 BitViper Nazca : it was my understanding the factories were coming back on line last month
17:10 BitViper Nazca thats it
17:10 HighMan Nazca, How does a cent a gig sound like to you?
17:10 HighMan Wow BitViper
17:11 Nazca bringing the factories back on line doesn't solve the supply problem... they've got to make and ship the buggers to the factories that make the rest of it
17:11 Nazca will take a couple more months before the prices get back to where they were and the supply levels stabilise
17:11 Nazca container ships don't move quickly for anyone
17:12 BitViper Nazca : bah! I have three people including myself who are critical on drive space. And in my case I also have my primary drive failing.
17:13 Nazca yea, we have one particular client who's pleading for us to get more drives in faster due to him running out of space
17:14 Nazca oh, I remember why I looked in this channel in the first place
17:15 Nazca when I first watched the water cap section of the video I immediately thought "I wonder if there are enough different densities of dialectric and conductor to make it work"
17:17 Nazca on rewatching it I had the thought "Well air is a shit dialectric ... but air is a mixture of gasses, and some gasses are better than others... I wonder how much you could improve it by fiddling with the gas mixture and pressure level"
17:17 wannabe1987 yay for google?
17:17 HighMan Nazca, wannabe1987 BitViper http://reichrolld.com/
17:17 BotSteve Title: You just got REICHROLL'D!!
17:17 HighMan First, it's not Rick Roll, it's hitler.
17:18 eadthem how do you define include directorys in a make file
17:18 eadthem where do you define them as well
17:20 BitViper wouldnt that be in the linker call ? or in constants used in the linker call ..... its been a long time since i had to edit/make make files
17:20 Nazca it's a make file .... the first step is gouging your eyes out
17:20 BitViper ^^^
17:21 Nazca make files were invented by Cthulu to soften up humans .... it's like a meat tenderizer for the brain
17:21 Nazca and wow that video is well lipsynced
17:22 eadthem in visual studio i define for example $(SCSLIB)\src    witch on this paticular computer is like saying D:\programming\scs\src
17:22 eadthem netbeans dosent support enviroment varables
17:23 mashpriborintorg I'm taking apart a steam cleaner.... this thing is what I call, in technical words, a piece a shit
17:23 eadthem it says to set it up in the makefile
17:24 wannabe1987 NOM TIME!
17:24 wannabe1987 bbl
17:24 eadthem i sware at this point if i had a eclipse dev  a MSVC++2010 dev   a netbeans dev    my only debate would be the most painful way to kill them all
17:25 eadthem vc works in every way    but you cant type more than a fue characters a min due to intelisense
17:25 eadthem netbeans works in every way but   you have to set up the projects include files using full paths  witch will never be the same from computer to computer
17:26 eadthem eclipse works in every way except autocompleation  epic fails on even the most basic c++ syntax
17:26 electricguy lulz XD http://www.n0.se/f/n/7fc01_use4z.jpg
17:26 * eadthem head asplodes
17:26 HighMan GOD DAMN!
17:27 Nazca eadthem: you could set CFLAGS, LDFLAGS or PATH, depending on your aim
17:27 HighMan eadthem, BitViper You guys are going to suck us all in a black hole!
17:28 Nazca HighMan: I posted that video to another network.... minds were blown ... the walls will need cleaning
17:28 HighMan O_O
17:28 eadthem Nazca so your saying just PATH = "$(SCSLIB)src;$(LIBNOISE)include" ...
17:28 HighMan Someday, a nova will blow and only the icr's will be affected
17:29 BitViper eadthem : thats the idea
17:29 Nazca HighMan: IRC is a nova ... it's just very 7 bit
17:29 BitViper er HighMan
17:29 electricguy icr's? == i see arse?
17:29 HighMan xD ^
17:29 HighMan Nazca, ...
17:30 Nazca eadthem: that may work ... or you might need to do LDFLAGS="-L${LIBNOISE}"
17:30 HighMan DAD, WE ARE GOING TO DO SCIENCE!
17:30 Nazca you're in to gcc and ld flags really, which you pass depends on exactly what you are asking it to reference
17:30 Nazca there are several possibilities
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17:31 Nazca HighMan: to this I say .... http://youtu.be/avYBuijHPBI
17:31 BotSteve Title: Drunk Science - YouTube
17:31 eadthem think im gonna try cmake
17:31 eadthem as i have no intrest in maintaing 3 diffrent project files
17:31 Nazca that right there is why there is no getting drunk at the lab btw
17:32 Nazca cmake is much better
17:32 Nazca so is scons
17:32 eadthem would of been easy  until i found netbeans is missing a huge chunk
17:32 HighMan Nazca, This is gonna be od.
17:32 HighMan Pedo Bear?
17:33 Nazca ANYTHING other than make is better ... or doing it by hand
17:33 HighMan Nazca, Why?
17:34 Nazca HighMan: that video is TomSka ... he makes British Humour ... if you get monty python, you would probably enjoy spending a few hours watching through his videos
17:34 Nazca he also made this ... http://youtu.be/K-nDfVIVhsM
17:34 BotSteve Title: Musical Suicide - YouTube
17:35 HighMan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8hA0QtkSD4&amp;feature=related
17:35 BotSteve Title: ALTERNATE CUT: The Man Who Could Sit Anywhere - YouTube
17:35 HighMan NSFW ^
17:35 eadthem http://forums.netbeans.org/ntopic26390.html  this could work
17:35 BotSteve Title: NetBeans Forums - Is it possible to enjoy NetBeans with CMake?
17:36 eadthem i still want to torture some IDE devs
17:36 Nazca them there's http://youtu.be/5hjoDOnzr5s .... a short movie written while reaaaally drunk
17:36 BotSteve Title: HOLY SHIT CATS - YouTube
17:36 Nazca it's a sci-fi action movie
17:37 HighMan NAZCA!
17:37 HighMan The Musical Suicide thing reminds me of Sanctuary
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17:38 Nazca and there is http://youtu.be/hHkKJfcBXcw ... which really can't be described
17:38 BotSteve Title: I LIKE TRAINS (asdfmovie song) - YouTube
17:38 HighMan ...Have you seen sanctuary?
17:38 Nazca I know it but haven't had chance to watch it yet
17:38 HighMan ....I'm not watching anymore... This is just weird
17:39 Nazca Musical Suicide reminds me of Rent actually
17:39 Nazca like I say ... if you get Monty Python, this guy is well worth watching every video on his channel
17:40 Nazca he's got that same kind of absurdist humour
17:40 HighMan Idk who monty python is
17:40 HighMan Nazca, Here I will show you
17:41 Nazca you ... don't .... NURSE! GET ME A SKIT IN HERE STAT!
17:41 HighMan Nazca, What from here on.
17:41 HighMan http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&amp;v=ry19aRPbkg8#t=528s
17:41 BotSteve Title: Sanctuary season 4 episode 8 part 2/3 - YouTube
17:42 Nazca you need to watch http://youtu.be/25Qhbdijv5Y
17:42 BotSteve Title: Monty Python Precision Drilling - YouTube
17:42 HighMan That sancutary part reminds me of the suicide
17:42 Nazca and you need to watch http://youtu.be/ByZqx30OvVs
17:42 BotSteve Title: Monty Python Self Defence Class - YouTube
17:43 HighMan I will after this :P
17:44 Nazca and http://youtu.be/vt0Y39eMvpI
17:44 BotSteve Title: Monty Python - The Spanish Inquisition - YouTube
17:44 Nazca the knights who say Ni? Monty python
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17:45 HighMan This is weird.
17:45 Nazca Dead parrot sketch? Lumberjack song? Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition?  Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries? All Monty Python
17:46 HighMan Nazca, This is just weird.
17:46 Nazca hell... they are the origin of the use of Spam for email
17:47 HighMan A gun?
17:47 HighMan Precision Drilling?
17:48 Nazca http://youtu.be/9ZlBUglE6Hc
17:48 BotSteve Title: Ministry of Silly Walks - YouTube
17:48 HighMan Nazca, NO MAS! xD
17:50 Nazca John Cleese... Eric Idle ... Michael Palin ... Graham Chapman ... Terry Jones ... Terry Gilliam
17:50 Nazca Always look on the bright side of life? Monty Python :p
17:51 Nazca "He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!"
17:52 * HighMan Ignoring Python, except for BotSteve
17:52 Nazca Unladen air speed velocity of a swallow
17:52 HighMan There is a formula for that...^
17:52 Nazca yeah ... and it originates in Monty Python
17:53 epictang0 actually that is air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow
17:54 Nazca epictang0: African or European?
17:54 epictang0 it doesnt matter you there is no such thing as a unladen air speed
17:54 * epictang0 goes back to his hole
17:55 * Nazca throws the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch at epictang0
17:56 Nazca HighMan: I can literally sit here for for hours finding you popular culture references and memes that come from Monty Python
17:56 epictang0 annnnnd nazca is on ignore
17:56 HighMan I would not watch :P
17:57 Nazca seems someone doesn't have two coconut halves
17:57 eadthem so when building with G++ cigwin   do you still use the windows SDK and libs?
17:57 HighMan I'm a man.
17:57 eadthem or do you use cigwin libs
17:57 Nazca actually I meant epictang0 ... and I don't expect you to get the reference :p
17:58 Nazca would I be right in guessing you're from the good old USA? :p
17:58 Nazca eadthem: why would you want to?
17:58 eadthem well you have to have the include files somewhere
17:59 eadthem sense your on windows wouldnt you use there sdk
17:59 HighMan Nazca, I'm from the us
17:59 Nazca no, I mean why would you want to compile anything with cygwin :p
17:59 HighMan I compile it with my computer
18:00 Nazca HighMan: which is largely why you don't find Monty Python funny
18:00 HighMan I'm hungry for crackers but i'm not a cannibol.
18:00 HighMan Nazca,
18:00 Nazca British humour quite simply does not export... never has
18:01 Nazca there have been a very few instances where a comedy show from the UK has translated to the US market, but generally the show was basically US style humour to begin with
18:02 HighMan I love code lyoko
18:02 Nazca some standup comedians can also deal with both audiences quite well, since that type of humour can translate
18:03 wannabe1987 nomming is done!
18:03 Nazca but Python, Red Dwarf, Fawlty Towers ... we Brits like absurdist humour
18:03 BitViper *sneeze*
18:04 wannabe1987 bless you
18:04 Nazca not just intellectual humour, cause that can translate... it's a really surreal and unhinged kind of funny that is just the laughter side of utter nonsense
18:04 Nazca I mean really ... the knights who say Ni!
18:05 wannabe1987 ni!
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18:09 Nazca they demanded shrubbery and when Arthur found a shrubber they decide they had become the knights who say ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-ecky-ptang-zwoop-oh and told him to cut down the mightiest tree in the forest with herring
18:09 injektion It turns out the list of Macs that cannot run OS X.8 is not finalized according to what Apple has been saying
18:12 wannabe1987 Nazca: i love monty python and the holy grail :D
18:12 wannabe1987 hi injektion
18:12 Nazca exactly ... I love Python full stop and any humour like that ... Robin Hood: Men in tights is another good example
18:13 wannabe1987 haven't seen it
18:13 Nazca it takes a real man to wear tights
18:13 wannabe1987 of course
18:15 Nazca http://youtu.be/pc1am3KyYgA
18:15 BotSteve Title: Men in Tights Song - YouTube
18:16 Nazca really all I need to say about it is that it's a Mel Brooks film
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18:17 injektion hi wannabe1987
18:17 electricguy no CB.. :/
18:17 wannabe1987 awww
18:17 wannabe1987 hi lee
18:17 Nazca http://youtu.be/dX4Ik-cyp-I is the trailer for it
18:17 BotSteve Title: Robin Hood: Men in Tights (1993) Trailer - YouTube
18:18 lwq1996 ok i think my microwave is leaking microwaves. what is a test i can do to see if it does
18:18 electricguy it's very easy
18:18 electricguy get a flourecent lamp
18:19 electricguy move it along the door edge
18:19 lwq1996 like a cfl lightbulb?
18:19 electricguy if it lights up you got a microwave leak
18:19 electricguy yes
18:19 lwq1996 ok
18:19 electricguy a compact flourecent or a flourecent tube
18:19 lwq1996 ok will try that
18:19 HighMan Hi lwq1996
18:19 electricguy what makes you think it's leaking microwaves?
18:20 lwq1996 hi highman and wannabe1987
18:20 Nazca wannabe1987: are you familiar with Space Balls the movie?
18:20 wannabe1987 heard of it
18:20 electricguy it's aweosme! XD
18:20 lwq1996 electricguy its old and may be leaking
18:20 electricguy ahh oki
18:20 electricguy well, just try it :)
18:21 lwq1996 ok
18:21 lwq1996 now if i can find a not blow cfl
18:21 electricguy lol
18:21 electricguy as long as the tube is intact it's good
18:21 electricguy doesn't matter if the electronics are fucked
18:21 Nazca right, Men in Tights is to Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves what Space Balls is to Star Wars
18:22 electricguy Dark helmet!
18:22 lwq1996 ah ok
18:22 HighMan I mutilated a altoids can
18:22 wannabe1987 i see
18:22 wannabe1987 a parody of sorts?
18:22 electricguy yes
18:22 Nazca electricguy: We've lost the beeps, we've lost the sweeps and we've lost the creeps!
18:22 electricguy :D
18:23 electricguy The radar is jammed!
18:23 Nazca a parody indeed
18:23 Nazca another movie I can't recommend highly enough is Police Academy
18:23 electricguy dark helmet is like 1.50 tall and got round glasses XD
18:23 electricguy looks like a dork :P
18:24 electricguy yeah police academy is spic :P
18:24 electricguy ideocracy is awesome too
18:24 Nazca electricguy: why not just say Dark Helmet is played by Rick Moranis :p
18:24 electricguy XD
18:24 electricguy well, ok then :P
18:25 Nazca http://youtu.be/FebYWUGucpA
18:25 BotSteve Title: Police Academy Trailer 1984 - YouTube
18:28 Nazca and yes, the link between those two films is Michael Winslow
18:28 injektion Most hardware has switching power supplies right that can either run on 120 or 240 right?
18:29 HighMan Yah
18:29 HighMan I always thought what they meant until I read the switch
18:29 HighMan If you live off of 120 and flip it to 240 it won't work..
18:30 Nazca he's the most incredible impressionist ever to live .... really, he doesn't just do accents, he's a walking talking sound effects machine
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18:31 Nazca http://youtu.be/YE-JVa-yrj0
18:31 Seroster Börk
18:31 BotSteve Title: Police Academy's Man of 10,000 Sound Effects on The Daily Buzz - YouTube
18:31 Nazca see if that will play for you
18:34 wannabe1987 i can't here....i can't play vids till i get off work at like 10 tonight
18:35 Nazca he's brilliant, really truly brilliant
18:35 Nazca oh and another film to go on the list of films everyone should watch at least once... Airplane!
18:37 Nazca "I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..."
18:38 wannabe1987 ....
18:38 wannabe1987 i gotta leave for work...:/
18:38 wannabe1987 but the sunshine is so nice!
18:38 wannabe1987 i don't get to see it/feel it at work....
18:38 Nazca lol
18:39 BitViper O_O
18:40 wannabe1987 what BitViper?
18:40 BitViper n/m reading out of context :)
18:40 wannabe1987 lol
18:41 wannabe1987 pervy old man :P
18:41 wannabe1987 bye everyone....
18:41 * BitViper looks innocent
18:41 wannabe1987 lwq1996: text me sometime, i'll prollly be bored
18:41 wannabe1987 lol you're far from innocent, you know that...
18:41 Nazca Robin Hood: Men in Tights, Space Balls, Police Academy, Airplane!, Monty Python's Life of Brian
18:41 wannabe1987 ministry of silly walks, anyone?
18:41 BitViper *cough* *cough*
18:41 * HighMan Lost
18:41 Nazca 5 movies everyone should watch at least once
18:41 injektion Don't you tell me which zone is for loading, and which zone is for stopping!
18:42 * HighMan Lost and Getting Egg Roles ;)
18:42 BitViper lol HighMan
18:42 HighMan lol
18:42 * BitViper is making turnovers
18:42 BitViper 2 of em never made it to the oven though
18:43 Nazca not everyone will get them all, but if you do they are are unmissable :)
18:43 HighMan BitViper, ...
18:43 * BitViper sneezes
18:43 HighMan BitViper, I have gave you enough solutions.
18:44 Nazca injektion: I gave at the office :)
18:44 lwq1996 hmmm should i go to town with my family or stay here and do what ever i want
18:44 HighMan BitViper, You can get a water heater and a pump and some water and make stem, you can get a humidifier with a pump and a water source
18:44 HighMan lwq1996, Family...
18:44 BitViper HighMan : send me a check
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18:45 lwq1996 i spend all the time with them
18:45 HighMan BitViper, You already have a huidifier :P and just add a pump
18:45 HighMan lwq1996, Say that when you are older.
18:45 lwq1996 what are you talking about your younger than me
18:46 HighMan :)
18:47 BitViper HighMan : send me a check, or the pump, whatever
18:48 HighMan BitViper, You can't scrounge up a pump...
18:49 HighMan Let's see what I can find
18:51 HighMan Make a Sponge Humidifier
18:51 HighMan Make a sponge humidifier for smaller spaces, such as a closet or small bedroom. Buy large food-storage bags and large sponges. With a hole puncher, and place 20 holes in the plastic bags. Wet a large sponge until the sponge is saturated. Squeeze any excess water out of the sponge so it is very damp, but not dripping wet. Place the sponge in the hole-punched food storage bag and put it in the room or closet your want to raise the humidity. This
18:51 HighMan method may take longer to increase the humidity but it will do it without the use of heat. Use more or less sponges to increase or decrease the amount of humidity in the room.
18:51 Seroster WHAT
18:51 Seroster When the fuck did I get chrome?
18:52 * angy fondles Seroster
18:52 HighMan Seroster, XD
18:52 HighMan I have given up on chrome
18:52 lwq1996 chrome is better than ff
18:52 Seroster /kick lwq1996 no it isn't.'
18:52 HighMan lwq1996, I like firefox the for the restore session feature. Though there is one in chrome, THERE IS NO OPTION TO SAVE LOGINS.
18:52 HighMan I agree with Seroster.
18:52 Seroster You do?
18:53 Seroster That means I gotta switch
18:53 HighMan Yes, chrome sucks.
18:53 HighMan :P
18:53 Seroster God damn it roadran =P
18:53 HighMan xD
18:54 Seroster lwq1996, I don't care. It's made by google. As a Resident Evil fan I get VERY strong umbrella vibes from Google.
18:54 Seroster Or, TheCompany from ALIEN
18:54 HighMan Do you use gmail or google?
18:54 Seroster Google yes
18:54 HighMan I like google and gmail, but I hate chrome
18:54 Seroster Gmail no
18:54 HighMan What do you use?
18:54 Seroster Google, Youtube.
18:54 HighMan I mean as email
18:54 angy use duckduckgo instead of google as a search engine
18:54 HighMan And yes youtube also lol
18:55 Seroster I.E what google was from the beginning and what I already used
18:55 HighMan angy, ?
18:55 Seroster But the fact that they soon own every major site freaks me out
18:55 Seroster They have already though about buying facebook, and when that wasnt for sale they tried to make their own.
18:55 Nazca <HighMan> lwq1996, I like firefox the for the restore session feature. Though there is one in chrome, THERE IS NO OPTION TO SAVE LOGINS. <--- I positively hate firefox's session restore ... lost too many sessions to it
18:56 Nazca and Chrome saves passwords just fine
18:56 Nazca though ... are you on windows or linux?
18:56 HighMan Nazca, You don't get it
18:56 Seroster Who are you asking, Nazca?
18:56 Nazca (or mac, I guess :p)
18:56 Nazca HighMan
18:56 HighMan Nazca, It's annoying to have to use lastpass and then type my password each time
18:56 astro73|alice that's funny. somebody at work hated how chrome handles logins and sessions in the context of shared computers
18:56 Seroster HighMan is a windooors user.
18:56 HighMan My password is a bit long :P
18:57 HighMan And it's annoying to login to both my gmail accounts and facebook, sometimes I might need to pull my phone out for the other form of auth
18:57 Nazca kk ... Keepass 2 and the chrome plugin
18:57 HighMan I use lastpass :P
18:57 HighMan Not Keepass
18:57 Nazca yes, I'm telling you to use keepass :p
18:58 HighMan And I'm sticking with lastpass :P
18:58 Seroster Imma keep that ass after I tap dat ass.
18:58 Seroster Keep-ass. Ftw.
18:58 HighMan Seroster, What email do you use?
18:58 HighMan Lastpass The last password you have to remember.
18:58 Seroster Not Gmail.
18:58 HighMan Then what?
18:59 HighMan Gmail is better than yahoo and hotmail and aool.
18:59 HighMan (aol
18:59 HighMan *aol
19:00 angy you base yourself on what to say that?
19:00 HighMan I've used them all
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19:01 HighMan I first started with hotmail. I hated it and moved to yahoo mail. Didn't like that and then used aol. Didn't like that and now I reside with gmial
19:01 HighMan *gmail
19:01 * angy hugs injektion
19:01 HighMan But I don't use pop3 or imap or stm
19:01 HighMan *stmp
19:01 HighMan Basically, I don't use an email client like outlook or thunderbird
19:01 * injektion hugs angy  back :)
19:01 * angy offers an AMD cpu to injektion
19:01 * Seroster molests injektion
19:01 * HighMan Molestes Seroster and injektion with a baton
19:02 * injektion throws said AMD CPU into a fire
19:02 HighMan was kicked by Seroster: damn that aint cool.
19:02 HighMan joined #thegeekgroup
19:02 HighMan And you say molseting is :P
19:02 HighMan :P
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19:04 electricguy i'm amazed over how mentally raped seroster is on IRC when he behaves like a human on a forum we both hang on
19:05 electricguy :)
19:05 HighMan ...
19:05 HighMan cD
19:05 HighMan xD
19:05 Seroster Lol
19:05 HighMan A baton hurts.
19:05 electricguy it's just the truth.. XD
19:05 Seroster This is so much more fun than ef
19:06 BitViper looks to me like Seroster gets more than mentally raped in here
19:06 electricguy well, i don't think you are fun.. But that's just me
19:06 Seroster But... I love you...
19:06 HighMan Awh I love you too.
19:06 Seroster Shutup
19:06 HighMan :P
19:07 HighMan Forever Alone haha
19:07 * electricguy isn't going to feed failing trolls
19:07 angy Seroster is not a failing troll!
19:07 angy he's a viking!
19:07 HighMan PH HELL
19:07 HighMan HE AIN'T NOTHING CLOSE TO A FAILING TROLL.
19:07 HighMan HE'S AMERICA'S ARESE.
19:07 HighMan *ARSE
19:07 HighMan :)
19:07 * Seroster arr's and eats a pig
19:07 angy care to spare the liver ?
19:07 electricguy angy, no, he's a swede that should be locked into a bunker XD
19:08 angy that we can do, I'll order the concrete :)
19:08 electricguy good
19:08 Seroster Dude, I'm in a concrete cube from miljonprogrammet, If that aint a bunker nothingi s
19:09 angy let's concrete your concrete cube then
19:09 angy a double concrete cube
19:09 angy with a dash of asbestos as well
19:09 Seroster I herd u like concrete...
19:09 Seroster Yeah there's plenty of asbestos in this house
19:09 angy yeah, but that's nothing to talk here
19:09 HighMan I love egg rolls!
19:09 Seroster They found asbestos in the elevator
19:10 HighMan And I found anthrax
19:10 Seroster The machine room of the elevator was insulated with asbestos wool, wich fell down into the shaft when it vibrated =)
19:10 electricguy i found a 5mm allen wrench just next to me
19:10 HighMan What's asbests?
19:10 angy stab Seroster with it
19:10 HighMan *abestos
19:10 HighMan .wik abestos
19:10 BotSteve "Asbestos (pronounced /æsˈbɛstəs/ or /æzˈbɛstəs/) is a set of six naturally occurring silicate minerals used commercially for their desirable physical properties." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos
19:11 HighMan I seen commericals about i
19:11 HighMan t
19:11 Seroster It'
19:11 Seroster It's illegal to use in sweden.
19:11 HighMan Why?
19:11 Nazca if you find asbestos you need to do one thing: run
19:11 Seroster Fucks up your lungs
19:11 HighMan Oh! Ok...
19:11 Nazca it is the only known mechanical carcinogenic
19:11 HighMan O_O
19:11 HighMan Cancer
19:12 Nazca yes
19:12 Seroster Yup
19:12 Seroster Fucks a lot of shit up
19:12 injektion Isn't abestos illegal everywhere now?
19:12 Nazca most sharp things are dull when you put them under a microscope
19:12 angy not in canada
19:12 HighMan "If you have been in contact with abestos you are entitled for compensation"
19:12 electricguy one more great thing that was discovered back when electricity was harmless and cigarettes were good for you
19:12 Nazca angy: doubt it, if it isn't I'm never going to canada
19:13 Seroster But it's heatproof, fireproof, is great for reinforcing concrete, clay or bricks, - works wonders when insulating chimneys, it doesn't decay and it's cheap as dirt.
19:13 Seroster Toooo bad it kills you.
19:13 HighMan Nazca, Everything is if you look under a microscrope at atomic level, atoms are mostly round but fuzzy
19:13 HighMan Seroster, XD
19:13 angy in canda, asbestos is still allowed
19:13 angy and canada is against any international effort to globally ban it
19:13 HighMan Hmm... Cheap vs. Life.
19:13 electricguy damnit.. DX doesn't have any really rugged external HDD enclosures
19:14 Nazca HighMan: except you need to go almost that far to make it blury ... it's still sharp enough to actually /poke/ dna
19:14 angy it's the only part of the world that still mine asbestos
19:14 Nazca hence the mechanical bit
19:14 HighMan ...
19:14 HighMan angy, Are canadians dumb
19:14 Nazca it also doesn't decay and one it embeds in the lungs it's there permanently
19:15 Seroster Damn nadians.
19:15 HighMan If it doesn't decay it doesn't decompose, that means the body can't really get rid of it... Shit.
19:15 Seroster Aye
19:15 mashpriborintorg I know I have abestos in something, but i can't remember what :|
19:15 injektion How long does it take the body to get rid of chlorine?
19:15 Seroster mashpriborintorg, your ass?
19:16 HighMan mashpriborintorg, That's nice O_O
19:16 mashpriborintorg it's remotely stored anyway
19:16 HighMan LOL
19:16 masterofmonks injektion, It depends on the exposure level.
19:16 Seroster HighMan, And it's too fucking tiny to remove with a pair of tweezers
19:16 angy depend on what compound as well
19:16 HighMan ...
19:16 mashpriborintorg not, onto an aircraft fuselage panel piece iirc
19:16 Seroster masterofmonks, Yeah, if you drink a liter of chlorine you'll keep it for the rest of your life =)
19:16 injektion masterofmonks, for example where I work
19:17 masterofmonks injektion, considering it is an oxidizer, until it neutralizes it's self and you cough it up.
19:17 HighMan masterofmonks, How long does it take for Hydrogen Chloride to decompose before it decomposes me?
19:17 injektion How long does that take
19:17 HighMan A liter of HCl (Gaseous form)
19:18 masterofmonks HighMan, you are currently carrign a sample of HCl.
19:18 HighMan Ik, stomach acid
19:18 HighMan It's dilite though
19:18 Seroster Eh
19:18 HighMan And the stomach isn't eaten from that from saliva
19:18 Nazca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anthophyllite_asbestos_SEM.jpg <--- that is the problem with Asbestos
19:18 BotSteve Title: File:Anthophyllite asbestos SEM.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:18 Seroster It's stronger than I want on my hands.
19:19 Nazca imagine what that does to the nice squish and delicate cells in your lungs
19:19 angy saliva is a neutral solution
19:19 Seroster no....
19:19 mashpriborintorg there abestos needles are almost natural nanoparticles
19:20 injektion After how bad dichlor and trichlor granules smell who in their right mind would want to drink 1L of chlorine
19:20 HighMan Nazca, If there was a different form of abestos, would it be safe/
19:20 Nazca HighMan: they're all as bad to varying degrees
19:20 HighMan injektion, I am drinking chlroine and eating sodium
19:20 HighMan Damn
19:20 masterofmonks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KX8C3H4Oaw&amp;context=C31db0edADOEgsToPDskJPjI5xGp0N25kzw7jfBXhZ
19:20 BotSteve Title: Drinking homeopathic bleach - YouTube
19:20 Seroster Oh fuck you mom
19:21 HighMan Sodium Hypochlorite
19:21 Nazca there has been concern in recent years that carbon nanotubes might be dangerous in a similar way, but thus far the research says not
19:21 Seroster Speaking about homeopathy, I've disproven it. I made a sample of 250x homeopathic birth control and dumped in the ocean. erp.
19:22 HighMan What's homeopathic?
19:22 Nazca Seroster: homeopathic medicine is dumb
19:22 HighMan .define homeopathic
19:22 BotSteve homeopathic — adjective: 1. Of or pertaining to homeopathy
19:22 Seroster LOL
19:22 Seroster Ill explain highman
19:22 HighMan .define homeopathy
19:22 BotSteve homeopathy — noun: 1. (medicine) a system of treating diseases with small amounts of substances which, in larger amounts, would produce the observed symptoms
19:22 Seroster .yt james randi homeopathy
19:22 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMukj31qw1U
19:22 HighMan Seroster,  Ok
19:22 Nazca HighMan: everything is good for you in small enough quantiies
19:22 HighMan OH!
19:22 Seroster NO, not with small ammounts
19:22 HighMan I get what it means
19:22 Seroster WITH NO AMMOUNTS
19:22 Seroster Fuck.
19:22 Nazca the more dilute the better
19:23 HighMan You drink a gram solution of aids and hope the body fights it.
19:23 Nazca James Randi is awesome
19:23 HighMan You do that over and over again till your body is use to it.
19:23 Seroster I overdosed on homeopathic medicine once... I didn't take it.
19:23 Seroster not that you idiot,
19:23 HighMan xD ^
19:23 mashpriborintorg the active subtance are so diluted, you may have only 1 active molecule in you entire tube of homeo pills
19:23 Seroster What you do is you dilute something until there isnt even ONE SINGLE MOLECULE of the substance in the solution, then you drink it and think it works.
19:24 Seroster It's pseudoscience, scamming and plain retarded.
19:24 mashpriborintorg the rest is filler
19:24 HighMan Seroster, Placebo
19:24 Seroster Not even that
19:24 HighMan ...
19:24 Seroster Nazca, His name is in my wallet, he signed it for me.
19:24 mashpriborintorg but they make neat little plastic tubes around the pills XD
19:25 Seroster Nah
19:25 Seroster They just take sugar pills and drop solution on them
19:25 Seroster Drop water*
19:25 HighMan Seroster, If you had like aids and you didn't know that there wasn't a cure for it. I gave you a sugar pill.
19:25 HighMan What would happen?
19:25 Seroster Nothing
19:25 Seroster If I had a headace and I took a homeopathic pill I'd get rid of my headace, eventually.
19:26 Seroster Not faster than if I refrained from taking the pill to
19:26 Seroster tho*
19:26 Seroster HighMan, watch james randis lecture
19:26 HighMan Seroster, I'm 2 lazy i'm eating egg rolls
19:26 HighMan Where is the new cb...
19:27 Nazca it's a bit of shame about asbestos really ... it /was/ a near perfect material.  though another good example from the same era is Radium
19:27 angy just one tiny flow
19:27 mashpriborintorg oh yeah
19:27 Nazca http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radium_Ore_Revigator
19:27 BotSteve Title: Radium Ore Revigator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
19:28 mashpriborintorg radium dial aircraft instruments from the 40's 50's era are hot
19:29 mashpriborintorg and the former factories where they were made must be kinda fun
19:29 Nazca there was a lot of use of radioactive materials for this sort of nonsense back in the 20s and 30s .... and since any that didn't actually contain the radioactive materials were blocked from sale on account of deceptive advertising, most really were radiactive
19:29 Nazca mashpriborintorg: was that pun intentional or not?
19:29 HighMan So..
19:29 mashpriborintorg yeah, lights in the dark
19:30 Nazca "radium dial needles are hot".... hot meaning fairly radioactive and hot meaning rather nice and fun
19:31 HighMan *francium
19:31 mashpriborintorg I know a guy who keeps a hundred of these radium gauges in his living room...
19:31 mashpriborintorg Chernobyl @ home :p
19:31 HighMan mashpriborintorg, He dead yet?
19:32 Nazca HighMan: radium ... glow in the dark stuff back then was coated in radium laced paint
19:32 mashpriborintorg no, he seems pretty thought
19:32 lwq1996 everyone keep talking im trying an experiment
19:32 HighMan O_O
19:32 HighMan lwq1996, What are you doing? Bombing the IRC?
19:32 Nazca and while I don't know about the factories, apparently a lot of painting girls died
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19:32 Nazca incidentally, everyone should know about and read through http://www.theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/index.html
19:32 mashpriborintorg they used to wet the paintbrushes with their mouth
19:32 BotSteve Title: The Wooden Periodic Table Table
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19:33 mashpriborintorg before dipping in the radium paint
19:33 mashpriborintorg not good
19:33 HighMan I love water and franicum!
19:33 Nazca http://www.theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/RadioactiveStorage.html is particularly relevant
19:33 BotSteve Title: Radioactive Storage
19:34 lwq1996 ok my microwave isnt leaking anything
19:34 HighMan Good.
19:34 mashpriborintorg the shame is that lead becomes almost impossible to get
19:35 HighMan No, just get cheap shit from china
19:35 lwq1996 if you put your laptop in a microwave and its wireless it woulnt recieve the signal. because mircowaves and wifi waves are on the same frequency
19:35 HighMan That's not very conclusive isi t?
19:36 mashpriborintorg don't turn the microware on when the laptop is inside :p
19:36 HighMan Isn't the microwave is a shield?
19:36 HighMan mashpriborintorg, XF
19:36 lwq1996 lol i know mashpriborintorg
19:36 lwq1996 highman if its leaking it will recieve wifi
19:37 mashpriborintorg unless you want to bork it efficiently
19:37 HighMan lwq1996, No I mean, if you were to shove it in a microwave wouldn't the microwave (not the wave) shield the laptop
19:37 HighMan Like the whole hunk of metal
19:38 HighMan What was your result?
19:38 lwq1996 it worked and no microwaves are leaking
19:38 HighMan Well it's good
19:44 HighMan 5
19:45 BatSteve what up
19:45 HighMan BatSteve!
19:45 HighMan Nothing really you?
19:47 BatSteve same.  Has my bot been behaving himself?
19:47 HighMan I haven't seen the forum
19:47 HighMan Well, let's see
19:48 HighMan I posted something
19:48 HighMan Also, BatSteve Did you get hte joke?
19:51 HighMan ..
19:51 angy helo Batty
19:51 HighMan If I'm right it goes at 2:51... And I posted something
19:51 BatSteve What joke?
19:51 HighMan The post I set on your testing fourm
19:52 BatSteve HELO angy
19:52 angy ehlo is better ;)
19:52 BatSteve MAIL FROM: BatSteve
19:52 HighMan ? ^
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19:54 HighMan .seen BotSteve
19:54 BotSteve I'm right here, actually.
19:54 HighMan That works
19:56 BatSteve :D
19:57 HighMan BatSteve, What?
19:57 HighMan When the forum bot going off?
19:59 BatSteve Every hour.
19:59 BatSteve Same as usual.
20:00 HighMan test
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20:02 BatSteve HighMan: what are you doing?
20:04 HighMan BatSteve, Idk
20:04 HighMan Why?
20:04 HighMan Wait what?
20:05 angy .cookie BatSteve
20:05 BotSteve Here you go, BatSteve, I baked you a double chocolate cookie!
20:05 BatSteve I was wondering what the reason for the .... was
20:05 BatSteve :D
20:05 HighMan Oh xD
20:05 angy let's throw a cookie party
20:05 HighMan I sent the bot random things too also lol
20:05 HighMan .cookie angy
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20:06 Monkeh BatSteve: He has no reasons
20:07 HighMan I posted something on the forum 20 minutes agoo.. Id
20:07 HighMan k
20:07 HighMan As for you Monkeh, None of your business :P
20:07 HighMan NEW BLOG
20:07 HighMan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAOA0BS-xFw&amp;feature=g-u-u&amp;context=G2cd996aFUAAAAAAAAAA
20:07 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog - 2-25-12 Moving Amy - YouTube
20:07 HighMan 1 HOUR 1 MINUTE AND 4 SECONDS LONG
20:07 HighMan HA BotSteve.
20:08 mashpriborintorg oh good... my gf is gonna hate Chris and all his captains blogs :p
20:09 HighMan lol
20:09 Seroster FUCK YEAH
20:09 Seroster Girlfriend dropped my camera now.
20:09 HighMan XD APPLE LOGO BRUISE
20:09 HighMan HAHAHA
20:10 Seroster Girlfriend dropped my camera earlier today* and it's börked.
20:10 mashpriborintorg yesterday my girlfriend accidentaly cut my headphones cable
20:10 HighMan How? ^
20:10 Seroster So I checked when I bought it, found the reciept, and found the insuranse expiration date.
20:11 mashpriborintorg while taking away a cutter from me in order that I din't get hurt :p
20:11 HighMan ...
20:12 mashpriborintorg luckily I had an extension cord on my headphones cord, the main cord is safe
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20:12 HighMan XD
20:12 Seroster Paid 150bucks for 4year insurance. And it's 3 years and 9 months since  Ibought it =)
20:13 HighMan You swedes call it insurance?
20:13 mashpriborintorg soldering these newer ultra thin cables is a pain
20:13 mashpriborintorg go tomorrow for the insurance, no time to loose
20:14 Seroster It's pretty fucking far away
20:23 electricguy LOL! true shit about us swedes.. XD http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/417639_2742136312359_1226008782_32112009_1247050856_n.jpg
20:25 Monkeh HighMan: Strangely enough, insurance is called insurance
20:25 HighMan Warranty
20:27 Seroster The other europeans are right
20:27 astro73|alice ok, i guess it's time to find out how much i broke my packages. I've got ram to install
20:27 astro73|alice bbl
20:27 Seroster HighMan, the warranty isnt something you buy externally
20:27 HighMan You go to bestbuy, "Extended Warranty"
20:29 Seroster The day you speak flawless swedish you have the right to bitch.
20:29 HighMan ...?
20:32 * angy tar pa Serosters kuk
20:34 injektion People often ask me why I prefer using MS Office this is why http://goput.it/ya0.png
20:34 HighMan ?
20:34 HighMan Thought it was Apple Works XD
20:35 injektion It's LibreOffice
20:35 injektion It looks out of place
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20:44 Toastdude Hi
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20:44 astro73|wc oh hello fsck. I did not miss you
20:45 egrsteve hello
20:45 angy .cookie egrsteve
20:45 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a molasses cookie!
20:45 * angy his Toastdude
20:46 Toastdude Lol
20:46 * Toastdude hugs angy
20:53 electricguy ok, got my watch set to GMT time, just for the geekyness :P
20:53 mashpriborintorg hi, well I fast forwarded this blog
20:54 HighMan mashpriborintorg, Why?
20:55 HighMan SHouldn't chris like hide liscense numbers?
20:55 electricguy depends
20:55 HighMan ?
20:55 electricguy you don't hid your license plate on the car.. :P
20:55 electricguy hide*
20:55 HighMan On video XD
20:56 mashpriborintorg the moving stuff is kinda boring, and I'll move in approx 8 months
20:56 HighMan I like watching it lol
20:56 HighMan Magazen's lol
20:57 HighMan .define magazines
20:57 BotSteve magazines — noun: 1. Plural form of magazine
20:59 masterofmonks Thousands of people see your licence plate every day on the road...
21:00 HighMan True, then why do tv shows hide them?
21:00 masterofmonks Idiocy.
21:00 HighMan lol
21:00 astro73|wc the same reason you blur faces
21:00 HighMan Well.... I get faces, detectives?
21:00 HighMan Voice scrambler...
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21:06 * BitViper crawls out of bed to watch the new cb
21:06 HighMan xD
21:06 HighMan BitViper, Wake up you lazy scum!
21:06 * BitViper thinks someone needs to feed yNos more often
21:06 * HighMan Flips your bed
21:07 * HighMan Gets a Air Horn
21:07 * BitViper stuffs HighMan into one of his dirty socks
21:07 HighMan I have none... Laundry just got done ;)
21:07 BitViper my dirty socks silly
21:07 electricguy lulz
21:07 electricguy winnar
21:08 HighMan "one of his dirty socks" That is mine ;P
21:08 electricguy no
21:08 HighMan Yes?
21:08 electricguy /me is in 3rd person
21:08 HighMan :P
21:08 HighMan Still mine.
21:08 electricguy you fail, good sir :)
21:09 HighMan xd
21:09 HighMan XD
21:09 HighMan SECURITY DOOR!
21:11 wannabe1986 joined #thegeekgroup
21:11 HighMan Hey wannabe1986
21:12 wannabe1986 hi
21:12 HighMan Did you help move amy?
21:12 wannabe1986 no....
21:12 astro73|wc crap
21:12 HighMan Oh lol
21:12 wannabe1986 i work/ed this weekend
21:12 astro73|wc i got gnome3
21:12 HighMan Well good day
21:12 wannabe1986 hi astro73|wc !
21:12 mashpriborintorg a luck it's just the hall door, not the appartment door
21:12 electricguy lol @ yNos... "playing tetris for years; it's paying off! xD
21:12 wannabe1986 why do you ask?
21:12 Seroster How long is your average tv degauss coil? 28'' tv
21:12 HighMan I was just curious
21:12 wannabe1986 and astro, what does WC stand for?
21:12 Seroster Water closette
21:13 HighMan xD ^
21:13 HighMan Toilet
21:13 * BitViper lol @ dave and food handling
21:13 * HighMan Toilet Water = Colone, Water Closet = Bathroom all from the diary of anne frank
21:14 wannabe1986 why are you in the watercloset AND announcing it?
21:14 Toastdude Hi wannabe1986
21:14 wannabe1986 hi Toastdude!
21:14 mashpriborintorg it means his wifi does also work there :p
21:14 astro73|wc shit
21:14 astro73|wc gnome3 just DIED
21:15 electricguy of course, it's in your toilet
21:15 electricguy anything would die in there
21:15 HighMan XD
21:16 wannabe1986 whose wifi doesn't work in the bathroom?
21:16 wannabe1986 when i irc on the toilet.....i don't announce it.
21:16 wannabe1986 but hell, i'm at work now on break...
21:16 mashpriborintorg cory's toilet is just a place with Chernobyl, Fukushima, Bhopal all together it seems
21:17 HighMan lol
21:17 electricguy it's almost a black hole
21:17 HighMan Amy has a fetish for vacumn cleaners
21:17 HighMan wannabe1986, You don't need to announce it, we now already ;)
21:18 HighMan .ud vacumn
21:18 BotSteve HighMan: No results found for 'vacumn'.
21:18 wannabe1986 .ud vacuum
21:18 BotSteve wannabe1986: No results found for 'vacuum'.
21:18 electricguy vacumn?
21:19 electricguy vacuum*
21:19 wannabe1986 gotta spell it properly....but its not a ud thing....its more a .define thing :P
21:19 HighMan Something about a vacuum and condom commericial
21:19 wannabe1986 that could be tropes....:P
21:19 HighMan No... On the captain's blog it's about vacuum and then batman says insert condom commerical here...
21:20 masterofmonks HighMan, you aren't old enough to understand that comment.
21:20 HighMan masterofmonks, Do you mind telling me then?
21:20 masterofmonks Yes.
21:20 HighMan And answer the question..
21:21 wannabe1986 i am behind on the cb....if you're gonna make a reference, let people know
21:21 HighMan ...
21:21 wannabe1986 yar!
21:21 wannabe1986 i fixed my issue ....
21:21 wannabe1986 wait
21:21 wannabe1986 nvm
21:21 angy .cookie wannabe1986
21:21 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1986, I baked you a white chocolate mocha cookie!
21:21 wannabe1986 shucks
21:21 wannabe1986 nom!  i'm making cookies tomorrow cuz zozo is coming to town (so might be BitViper
21:21 wannabe1986 .seen BitViper
21:21 BotSteve wannabe1986: I last saw BitViper 0.14 hours ago at 2012-02-26 21:13:22 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:21:53 UTC
21:21 wannabe1986 BitViper: any news?
21:22 astro73|wc i seriously broke my desktop and i can't figure it out
21:22 HighMan If it ain't window I can't help.
21:22 wannabe1986 :/
21:22 BitViper wannabe1986 : zozo is staying in kzoo tonight, lab tomorow
21:22 HighMan Other than to say restart
21:23 BitViper I too will probably be at the lab tomorow
21:23 wannabe1986 kzoo?  with pirate alex?
21:23 BitViper and at least part of the week
21:23 wannabe1986 around noon?  i can bring lunch and cookies, or we can all go out for lunch....o.o  (don't worry about funding!)
21:24 BitViper wannabe1986 : not pos who staying with
21:24 wannabe1986 ic
21:25 Seroster Fuck that was a backbreaker, and boring.
21:27 astro73|wc what is my window manager????
21:28 Seroster Err, your janitor? =D
21:30 wannabe1986 are you onwindows, astro?
21:30 electricguy then explorer.exe
21:30 * wannabe1986 has pudding :D
21:30 HighMan lol
21:31 * HighMan has a knife.
21:31 * wannabe1986 has a spoon
21:31 * HighMan Has a spork
21:31 * electricguy has a doorknob
21:31 * HighMan HAS EGGROLES FTW
21:32 astro73|wc wannabe1986: no, i just got upgraded to gnome3
21:32 HighMan *EGGROLLS
21:32 HighMan astro73|wc, Gnomio and Juliet?
21:32 HighMan *Gnomeo
21:32 * mashpriborintorg has a bed and is going into it
21:32 astro73|wc not helpful
21:32 HighMan mashpriborintorg, *getting onto it
21:32 HighMan Sorry astro
21:33 wannabe1986 sorry you're having issues astro
21:33 wannabe1986 i have to go back to work now :/
21:33 HighMan Have fun!
21:33 mashpriborintorg so I'm getting bye
21:33 HighMan Cya
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21:34 HighMan BotSteve: tell  mashpriborintorg that you can sing the alphabet backwards with that song.
21:34 BotSteve HighMan: I'll pass that on when mashpriborintorg is around.
21:34 egrsteve morning
21:37 * BatSteve wonders why the bot is not alerting on the new video
21:37 egrsteve idk
21:39 KB3NZQ joined #thegeekgroup
21:39 egrsteve hello
21:40 electricguy hey hey egrsteve :)
21:40 egrsteve hello
21:41 electricguy egrsteve, i have an idea about what that PLC looking thing might be. Sick also make laser scanners and other advanced sensors, so it might be some sort of laser scanner/ other weird sensor converter device
21:42 egrsteve could be
21:42 KB3NZQ_Biostar joined #thegeekgroup
21:43 BitViper wow, and i thought my apartment was small, amy's is even smaller
21:43 egrsteve sick makes a lot of sensors
21:43 Seroster Aye they do
21:43 electricguy yeah
21:44 electricguy should be some more advanced stuff though, as it's pretty pointless to use a D-sub for a simple capacitive digital sensor
21:44 egrsteve probably
21:44 KB3NZQ does any one on here have a command prompt open now?
21:45 electricguy no
21:45 electricguy can open one though
21:45 KB3NZQ if so  please  ping KB3NZQ.ham-radio-op.net
21:45 electricguy ok
21:45 KB3NZQ and reply with address
21:46 electricguy i just pinged you, got roughly 200ms pingtime
21:46 electricguy what address?
21:46 KB3NZQ did it resolve to 67.20.252.109 ?
21:46 electricguy ah
21:46 BitViper pinged you from 64.58.200.24 and resolved to 67.20.252.109
21:47 electricguy yes it did
21:47 KB3NZQ ok thank you all
21:47 BitViper setting up dns ?
21:47 KB3NZQ no have had dns for long time (dyndns)
21:48 electricguy awwe, Omni looked sad at the end of todays CB
21:48 KB3NZQ but just rebooted modem and router after having isp release all addresses on account
21:48 tggproducerBill joined #thegeekgroup
21:48 BitViper im doing traceroute now, seeing significant packetloss and large latency leap at last hop
21:48 tggproducerBill ynos you around?
21:49 KB3NZQ my modem is a modem router combo but i have it bridged so my router gets a public dhcp address which i found allows me to plug more things in to the modem and get more public address's but it messes w/ bandwidth
21:50 KB3NZQ BitViper kill your trace please
21:50 BitViper already did
21:50 KB3NZQ thank you
21:50 Seroster Im thinking about that plcy thing, could it be that each serial port can handle like a dozen sensors?
21:51 KB3NZQ all i needed to know was if ddns resolved
21:51 KB3NZQ which it did
21:51 BitViper KB3NZQ : i only ran a few dozen rounds
21:51 KB3NZQ damn you
21:51 KB3NZQ kiding
21:51 BitViper sorry, next time i'll run more :P
21:51 KB3NZQ NO
21:51 HighMan KB3NZQ, How'shHD?
21:52 HighMan xD
21:52 KB3NZQ ?
21:52 KB3NZQ you mean 2TB
21:52 HighMan Ya
21:52 BitViper KB3NZQ : or maybe i can use the flood method next time :)
21:52 KB3NZQ i haven't took the time to start it casue i went to fix a pc at a friends
21:52 KB3NZQ and just got back 10 min ago
21:53 egrsteve ttyl
21:54 HighMan BitViper, What do you do after spinrite is done? xD
21:55 BitViper HighMan : um, go back to using your disc ?
21:55 BitViper or do you mean how to get out of it ?
21:55 HighMan No I mean... Like how do you use it really
21:55 HighMan What do you set it to? Recover? Or what?
21:56 BitViper depends on your need, there are i think 5 modes to run it in, but 2 main ones. if youre just doing period maintenance (once or twice a year) you use mode 2, if youre doing recovery/repair, you'd use mode 4 ... then just let it run until its complete
21:57 HighMan Oh ok thx lol
22:12 Monkeh yNos: Ever figure out what you did to that card?
22:19 electricguy bedtime. night all :)
22:20 HighMan +++night electricguy
22:22 HighMan 111,111,111*111,111,111=12,345,678,987,654,321 PALINDROMES! FTW!
22:26 BitViper anyone know if TGG is capable of putting tv onto the big projector screen in the MDH ?
22:28 HighMan It should be?
22:29 HighMan TV? Television?
22:29 HighMan Wouldn't it go through like a set up box?
22:29 astro73|alice joined #thegeekgroup
22:30 HighMan Hi astro73|alice How's gnome working out for you?
22:30 astro73|alice ooph
22:30 astro73|alice i finally found the advanced options, so i got themes under control
22:30 HighMan Nice
22:30 astro73|alice i still can't use buttons 4 and 5 to switch workspaces
22:31 HighMan Drivers?
22:31 astro73|alice and i'm going to miss compiz; i'm rather attached to spinning cubs and wobbly windows
22:31 astro73|alice no, settings
22:31 BitViper HighMan : i ask cuz daytona got rained out until tomorow noon =(
22:31 astro73|alice it's how i've done workspaces for forever
22:31 HighMan BitViper What?
22:32 BitViper HighMan : daytona, nascar, auto racing ! =P
22:32 BitViper THE race
22:32 HighMan How does that relate to a projector?
22:32 BitViper *facepalm*
22:32 HighMan ...
22:32 BitViper *facedesk*
22:32 HighMan ..
22:32 * HighMan faceknife
22:32 * BitViper helps HighMan
22:33 HighMan :P I'm lost
22:33 BitViper HighMan : hard to watch the race while at the lab unless can be shown somewhere
22:33 HighMan OH YOU ARE GOING TO THE LAB!
22:33 BitViper *facedesk*
22:33 HighMan How? I thought you didn't have the mula...
22:34 HighMan And as for datona if it's straight coax then if they got the channel they need a converter box (I know because my school has one)
22:34 HighMan If it was a setup box... Hope they got it close 2 the projector connections lol
22:34 BitViper HighMan : i can manage about once every couple of months, or if i get help. this time im gonna stay a few days too thanks to a friend
22:34 HighMan Ah ok Well have fun! Mention me ;)
22:34 HighMan xD
22:35 HighMan And mention your self as I will forget
22:35 BitViper what, and get kicked out ? LOLOL
22:35 HighMan :P Mention yourself as BitViper and me :P
22:35 astro73|alice do i have to write a script to listen spoof mouse events?
22:35 BitViper just look for the new ugly dood with a potbelly
22:36 HighMan ... Just mention yourself lol
22:36 BitViper HighMan : go back and watch the cb where we unloaded all the palets of stuff from the huge truck about 6 weeks ago. im in there
22:36 HighMan derp
22:37 HighMan With the hass stuff?
22:38 BitViper um, was a bunch of robot guards and some boxes of metal stuff, and i think that was the one with the yellow cable protection stuff
22:38 HighMan Oh ok lets see
22:39 HighMan Where exactly in the video
22:39 HighMan Green Shirt?
22:39 BitViper yep the unmistakeable green shirt
22:39 HighMan Are you german?
22:39 HighMan The mustache just makes it
22:40 BitViper well, a dozen generations ago i was
22:40 HighMan ;p;
22:40 HighMan lol
22:40 BitViper what day was that ?
22:40 HighMan 1-24-12
22:40 BitViper *sneeze*
22:40 HighMan Sorry BitViper
22:41 HighMan Maybe you can get a humidifier there?
22:41 BitViper oh yeah, the one with no image
22:41 HighMan Yah lol
22:41 BitViper well, i dont KNOW that its dry air, since i sneeze at random all year. but its the only thing i can contribute it too
22:41 HighMan lol
22:42 HighMan I dare you to plug your nose.
22:42 HighMan When you sneeze that si
22:42 BitViper yeah sorry, not suicidal today
22:42 HighMan Hahaha
22:42 HighMan I couldn't find a close up but you look german haha
22:43 Monkeh ARRRRGH
22:43 Monkeh My headphones just left my head at a high percentage of c
22:44 BitViper i do have german in me. we have family traces back into the 1300's i think
22:44 Monkeh Boden's back to the silly loud outro music
22:44 BitViper Monkeh thanks for the warning
22:46 HighMan Yah it's worse when you are listening to the live stream with headphones on and you hear a loud BANG.
22:46 Toastdude On the Captain's Blog?
22:46 HighMan Yah
22:47 Toastdude Which outro music? Hasn't it always been the same?
22:47 HighMan No when dave and batman are driving their car I think
22:47 Monkeh Toastdude: Yes but he sometimes jacks the volume up to painful levels
22:47 Toastdude Ah
22:48 HighMan Oh well Monkeh Careful with the music when batman and dave is driving, there is a warning though
22:48 Toastdude The music was kinda funny..
22:48 Monkeh HighMan: .. I've listened to the outro.
22:48 HighMan lol
22:48 Monkeh HighMan: You think I skipped right through the rest of the video?
22:48 HighMan .define outro
22:48 BotSteve outro — noun: 1. (informal) In music, a portion of music at the end of a song; like an intro, but at the end instead of the beginning, 2. (informal) The closing sequence at the end of a video game, demoscene demo, etc
22:48 HighMan Oh..
22:49 Toastdude And there's a smudge on the bottom right part of the lens that's bothering me
22:49 Monkeh What did you think outro meant?
22:49 HighMan Monkeh, Idk which you meant the Beginning the Driving Part or the Ending
22:50 Monkeh .. intro. outro.
22:50 Monkeh Logic.
22:50 HighMan Then what's the middle
22:50 HighMan midtro
22:50 Monkeh .. the content
22:50 HighMan xD
22:52 astro73|alice_ joined #thegeekgroup
22:55 BitViper rotfl @ security door ... lovely
22:56 HighMan \Yep BitViper
22:56 HighMan xD
22:56 Monkeh BitViper: That's okay, over here you just add a hammer to the list of tools and you're in.
22:56 HighMan Hahah
22:58 BitViper Monkeh : here we just run our hand down the row of buttons and can pretty much guarentee that *someone* will let us in
22:58 BitViper or just yell at the front of the building
22:58 HighMan XDXDXDXDXD
22:59 BitViper then again, half the time at least one of the outside doors is propped open for one reason or another
22:59 HighMan Who ever can answer this question will win a cooke. What's the funnies complication with a skin graft
22:59 HighMan *funniest
23:01 HighMan Ok then. A skin graft with the top of your mouth and the skin still continues to grow hair
23:03 BitViper rotfl
23:03 BitViper ew
23:04 HighMan XD :)
23:06 HighMan You probably don't graft the temple of your mouth with skin from legs... But xD
23:06 Toastdude Seriously, you overuse XD.
23:06 HighMan ?
23:07 Toastdude "xD" you use way too muc.
23:07 Toastdude *Much
23:08 HighMan xD
23:08 HighMan ...
23:09 Toastdude It's a bit annoying.
23:09 HighMan Sorry
23:09 * HighMan Stops emoticons
23:10 Toastdude Don't stop, just stop using it that much.
23:10 HighMan ok...
23:10 HighMan the only thing I use a lot more than "xD" and "lol" is "..."
23:10 BitViper WOW wholy fsck on the outro, thats even worse than it used to be Monkeh
23:11 HighMan Is it that bad?
23:11 Toastdude Is the entire CB just moving?
23:11 BitViper yeah, if youre still watching, turn down your volume when chris gets in the car
23:11 BitViper most of it, some usual stuff twards the end
23:12 Toastdude I'm 41 minutes in...
23:12 HighMan Yah it's loud
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23:14 Monkeh BitViper: You see why even my expensive headphones went flying?
23:14 HighMan Hahaha
23:14 HighMan Monkeh, At least you didn't rupture your ear phone
23:14 BitViper Monkeh : no kidding
23:14 Monkeh HighMan: It.. takes more than that.
23:15 HighMan Monkeh, 1k decibel through those headphones?
23:17 Toastdude Isn't 300 enough to knock you out?
23:18 HighMan A jack hammer is 130 db
23:18 HighMan *dB
23:20 HeavyMetal joined #thegeekgroup
23:20 Toastdude Haha, security door
23:20 HighMan Yep Haha
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23:32 Sgt_Lemming that's fricking amusing
23:32 Sgt_Lemming batman just about loses it
23:33 HighMan Hahaha
23:39 Sgt_Lemming .t
23:39 BotSteve Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:39:52 GMT
23:39 Sgt_Lemming .t tgg
23:39 BotSteve Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:40:00 TGG
23:40 BitViper thats wrong
23:40 BitViper its 1840
23:41 Toastdude Not adjusted for DST
23:41 BitViper actually that IS adjusted for dst, and it shouldnt be
23:42 Sgt_Lemming lol
23:42 Sgt_Lemming .t AEST <-- me
23:42 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: Sorry, I don't know about the 'AEST <-- me' timezone.
23:42 Sgt_Lemming bah
23:42 Sgt_Lemming .t AEST
23:42 BotSteve Mon, 27 Feb 2012 09:42:38 AEST
23:42 BitViper what is aest ?
23:43 Sgt_Lemming Australian Eastern Standard Time
23:43 BitViper ah
23:43 BitViper .t est
23:43 BotSteve Sun, 26 Feb 2012 18:43:16 EST
23:43 BitViper see thats right, thast proper tgg time
23:43 BitViper .t tgg
23:43 BotSteve Sun, 26 Feb 2012 19:43:33 TGG
23:43 BitViper whoever set that up set tgg up either in the wrong base tz, or manually adjusted for daylight time
23:44 Monkeh .t UTC
23:44 BotSteve 2012-02-26T23:44:42Z
23:44 Monkeh My time is the real time.
23:45 Sgt_Lemming .t gmt
23:45 BotSteve Sun, 26 Feb 2012 23:45:37 GMT
23:45 Sgt_Lemming .t utc
23:45 BotSteve 2012-02-26T23:45:41Z
23:45 Sgt_Lemming [09:45:43] <+BotSteve> 2012-02-26T23:45:41Z
23:46 Sgt_Lemming BotSteve: tell BatSteve something is wrong when you .utc, check your PM's for details
23:46 BotSteve Sgt_Lemming: I'll pass that on when Batsteve is around.
23:46 Sgt_Lemming bleh, fail, but he'll get the point
23:55 Seroster .... Sgt_Lemming, IMMA STAB YER ASS
23:55 Sgt_Lemming ...?

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