Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-02-27

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00:02 Seroster Btw
00:02 Seroster I unwound a few hundred meters of degauss coil onto a spool
00:03 Seroster fuck that sucked
00:03 Sgt_Lemming rofl
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00:07 Seroster Put the wire across my legs and unspooled it
00:07 Seroster Tangled one and fucked it uop
00:07 Sgt_Lemming heh
00:09 producerBill joined #thegeekgroup
00:09 producerBill ugg hi everyone
00:09 Sgt_Lemming lo bill
00:11 Monkeh It's Bill!
00:11 producerBill it me,,, and Monkeh!!!
00:12 Monkeh Sgt_Lemming: That's locales for you.
00:13 producerBill ok
00:13 producerBill what?
00:14 Monkeh producerBill: Nothing important
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00:16 slewfoot Hey guys
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00:18 slewfoot yNos, you around.
00:18 slewfoot Or Bill...
00:19 pockitaru hay is there a forum for the stompper project ?
00:19 ajprog_laptop producerBill: was just here
00:19 HighMan Hi all
00:19 HighMan Anything new/
00:19 slewfoot Hopefully he comes back
00:20 HighMan Lol
00:26 HighMan ca
00:26 HighMan Whoops
00:29 HighMan yNos, Are you hungry for camera/
00:30 BitViper not sure if he was hungry for camera, or dave
00:30 HighMan Hahaha
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00:31 HighMan Hi toasty
00:38 HighMan .c 300*12
00:38 BotSteve 3600
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00:45 * BitViper is watching the last two 'undercover boss' episodes
00:48 * epictang0 just got done busting up tile...fuck i hate tile
00:49 slewfoot That stuff bites
00:49 epictang0 just a little
00:50 BitViper det cord should make it easy
00:50 epictang0 the previous owner used like 1" of self level....he should be kicked in the balls if i ever see him
00:50 slewfoot Lol
00:51 epictang0 which explains why the floor floated 1/2" above the hardwood
00:51 BitViper oh good grief
00:51 epictang0 yeah...good times
00:52 BitViper crap i dont know anything about tile and I still know better than that
00:53 epictang0 the dude that lived here before me was an architect that tried to be a contractor..
00:53 Seroster WTF
00:53 BitViper *facedesk*
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00:53 epictang0 like screwing cabinets into the studs with drywall screws
00:53 epictang0 yeah....those have no lateral strength asshat
00:54 HighMan Who's ever smelled liquid ass?
00:54 epictang0 lets not discuss the electrical he did...where i found hot grounds
00:55 epictang0 because instead of wire nuts...he just used a little bit of electrical tape
00:55 slewfoot Yikes
00:55 epictang0 all of this was hidden
00:56 epictang0 and didnt show up on the inspection because it was hidden behind walls and in nooks
00:57 Sgt_Lemming epictang0, the warehouse where we run the hackerspace...
00:57 Sgt_Lemming we were originally subletting off another group
00:57 Sgt_Lemming the manager of said group was an architect
00:58 Sgt_Lemming he put in another power circuit in the warehouse... with no breaker or rcd >_<
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01:03 epictang0 yeah...there was stuff like that here too...like clamping the covers to a junction down holding romex in place
01:04 epictang0 a metal junction box
01:04 epictang0 clamping wires
01:05 Sgt_Lemming I love how the horse "bulls eye" in the toy story movies, acts more like a dog
01:06 Toastdude This is getting annoying..
01:06 Sgt_Lemming even whimpers when Woody won't take him with him
01:08 epictang0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFCQRwj28w
01:08 BotSteve Title: Jeb Corliss - Grounded - YouTube
01:08 epictang0 ouch
01:10 epictang0 and if you are feeling froggy look at his facebook for injury pics
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01:23 LeePod hi
01:23 LeePod h
01:24 LeePod damb ipod
01:26 tehdark45 lolol LeePod
01:26 LeePod hi
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01:30 tehdark45 what are you doin LeePod
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01:39 eadthem netbeans = fail
01:40 eadthem devc++ = fail
01:40 eadthem codelite now
01:50 Seroster Börk
01:50 Seroster Goodnight
01:50 Seroster And.
01:50 Seroster HAAAA-BISKY!
01:55 * lwq1996 slaps tehdark45
01:55 tonsofpcs http://www.oswegonian.com/sports/6249/surfs-up-on-lake-ontario/ - great lakes surfing?!
01:55 BotSteve Title: Surf’s up on Lake Ontario | The Oswegonian
01:56 tehdark45 eadthem, eclipse!
01:56 * BitViper ducks
01:57 eadthem http://final.servegame.com/codelite.png
01:57 eadthem its perfect
01:57 * tehdark45 uses Cprossu on lwq1996
01:57 lwq1996 wtf
01:58 tehdark45 tehdark45 wins
01:58 tehdark45 lolol
01:58 eadthem code compleation responds about 100x faster than vc     it accualy works witch is a 1 up on eclipse and netbeans   and it compiles code witch is a 1 up on netbeans
01:58 * lwq1996 uses cory
01:58 * tehdark45 uses kidwell
01:58 BitViper O_o
01:58 tehdark45 lwq1996 has lost the game
01:58 lwq1996 tehdark uses a cow
01:59 lwq1996 what now!
01:59 tonsofpcs hi btw
01:59 tehdark45 beef, that's what
01:59 tehdark45 :P
01:59 tehdark45 hi tonsofpcs
01:59 tonsofpcs mmmmm beef
01:59 tehdark45 veg heads need help
01:59 tehdark45 lol
01:59 HighMan A whole new world
02:00 tehdark45 HighMan, a place that I have never seen?
02:00 HighMan tehdark45, no Alladdin ;)
02:00 HighMan *Aladdin
02:00 PacketHumper no one to tell us no, or where to go
02:00 tehdark45 that is a line in the song genius
02:00 HighMan Oh derp xD
02:00 HighMan :P
02:01 tehdark45 brb
02:01 tonsofpcs speaking of beef: travel channel.
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02:02 PacketHumper sigh nvidia needs to release some form of open source driver for linus
02:02 PacketHumper tired of dealing with the insanity debian causes simply because it is unhappy with nvidias kernel mod
02:05 tehdark45 PacketHumper, why would linus need an nvidia driver?
02:05 tehdark45 :P
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02:05 tehdark45 it is the guy on the other side of canadia!
02:05 lwq1996 lol
02:05 lwq1996 hi druid
02:06 tonsofpcs there's people in both yukon and labrador?
02:07 tehdark45 (2)British Columbia and (1)Ontario
02:07 tehdark45 at least in IRC
02:07 tehdark45 and tonsofpcs, nope, no humnas live there
02:07 tehdark45 lol
02:07 tehdark45 humnas*
02:08 tehdark45 humans*
02:08 tehdark45 grr
02:08 HighMan tehdark45, And tonsofpcs, nope, no human lives there.
02:08 HighMan Hummus ;)
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02:09 HighMan ?
02:09 HighMan Why don't people all download using torrents, speeds much faster
02:11 tonsofpcs erm... not always
02:11 HighMan Depends on how many people are downloading
02:11 HighMan 40kb verse 1mb
02:11 BitViper another cb up
02:11 HighMan Wtf
02:12 HighMan HA
02:12 HighMan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAiKFUwAgtI&amp;context=C3adb1c7ADOEgsToPDskKTzt2eHW_C0rl-m2fzyuyE
02:12 BotSteve Title: Captain's Blog - 2-26-12 Fire Escape Ladder - YouTube
02:12 HighMan Thanks BitViper ;)
02:12 BitViper big long one
02:12 HighMan Yep ~ 2hrs
02:13 PacketHumper https://imgur.com/gallery/aijN2
02:13 BotSteve Title: Ultimate Easter Prank - Imgur
02:13 PacketHumper i'm going to do that.
02:13 HighMan PacketHumper, Great Idea!
02:14 PacketHumper isn't it?  my fiance has all kinds of baking chocolates so i'm going to do it.
02:14 HighMan If you want to be nice, boil the egg
02:14 PacketHumper that hadn't even crossed my mind.
02:14 HighMan ...
02:15 PacketHumper i'm not that "nice" thing you are reffering to
02:15 HighMan Haha
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02:17 lwq1996 bitch tits is back
02:18 tehdark45 redneck is here :P
02:18 lwq1996 i though i was amish?
02:18 epictang0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWfph3iNC-k
02:18 BotSteve Title: Jeb Corliss " Grinding The Crack" - YouTube
02:18 tehdark45 you are both lee
02:18 tehdark45 An Amish Redneck
02:19 lwq1996 a redneck doesnt know how to use a computer.
02:20 tehdark45 and amish are scared of them
02:21 lwq1996 lol
02:22 lwq1996 well it goes against what they believe in
02:22 HighMan tehdark45, Sorry I had to really ping lol
02:22 HighMan :P
02:22 tehdark45 :P
02:25 tehdark45 HighMan is mad bro
02:26 egrsteve morning all
02:27 BitViper morning ?
02:27 tehdark45 egrsteve, are you in another country>
02:27 tehdark45 ?*
02:27 tehdark45 :P
02:27 egrsteve depends where you are
02:28 BitViper egrsteve : fair warning, im going to be there tomorow
02:28 egrsteve cool
02:28 lwq1996 tehdarks  a 19year old virgin :P
02:28 tehdark45 egrsteve, in relation to you normal residence
02:28 BitViper im not sure if we met last time, i saw you but dont remember interacting with you at all
02:29 * egrsteve will try to be there in the evening
02:29 BitViper kewl
02:29 tehdark45 lwq1996, with that mug you are gona be a 50 year old version
02:29 tehdark45 virgin*
02:29 BitViper i hope to be there all week, but depends on variety of factors
02:29 PacketHumper If any of you get in a captians blog, give me a shout out by doing the double thumbs up.
02:29 lwq1996 pft you dont know if ive had sex already or not :P
02:29 PacketHumper or calling chris doodle.
02:30 tehdark45 lwq1996, if you have you are a felon ;)
02:30 lwq1996 how?
02:30 PacketHumper lwq1996: you are in this room so chances are we are safe by saying you haven't.
02:30 tehdark45 16 is the legal age bro
02:30 lwq1996 as long as i havent fucked anyone over 18 im ok
02:30 PacketHumper he's got a point
02:30 PacketHumper albeit creepy.
02:30 PacketHumper but not to him
02:31 tehdark45 PacketHumper, are you saying SparkyProjects is a virgin? :P
02:31 lwq1996 in pa the legal age to have sex with anyone is 16
02:31 lwq1996 but 18 is the cut for sex with minors
02:32 SparkyProjects 0.0
02:32 lwq1996 yes sparky?
02:32 SparkyProjects tehdark45: 's comment :P
02:33 tehdark45 :P
02:33 epictang0 damn this is going to be a busy week
02:34 tehdark45 epictang0, what is happening
02:35 PacketHumper lol
02:35 PacketHumper tehdark45: possibly
02:36 PacketHumper sweet sasafrass.  we are leaving an hour later to go hunting in the morning.
02:36 PacketHumper extra sleepy time
02:36 tehdark45 PacketHumper, chris hunting or take 3 days huntiing?
02:37 PacketHumper pheasant hunting
02:37 PacketHumper my dog and the neighbors dog work as a pair.
02:37 PacketHumper it's mostly a long walk while i laugh as everyone else misses
02:37 tehdark45 that's not very nice :P
02:38 PacketHumper lol when you get your limit in your first 3 shots it's allowed.
02:38 PacketHumper granted first kill of the day when to the dogs.
02:38 lwq1996 is it november yet? i want to go squirrel hunting
02:39 PacketHumper loki, my pup, put one up and popilio jumped and got it
02:39 PacketHumper not much to eat on a squirrel.
02:39 tehdark45 PacketHumper, so you are Chris hunting ;)
02:39 PacketHumper lol
02:40 PacketHumper i guess
02:40 PacketHumper i don't have time for the longer trips.
02:41 tehdark45 ah
02:43 PacketHumper sometimes during the fall i do, but then i end up out in the woods on my laptop remoted in to fix something that some baffoon broke because doesn't follow instructions.
02:43 tehdark45 lol
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02:48 PacketHumper i'm not joking. i feel like a complete tool but everyone with me is also a network admin so they understand and lend a hand.
02:49 producerBill ynos,, ooo ynos I have some code for you
02:50 producerBill BotSteve tell ynos I have some test code for you
02:50 producerBill humm think I am doing this wrong
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02:50 Toastdude Hello
02:52 HighMan Hi Toastdude
02:53 Toastdude BotSteve: tell ynos producerbill has some test code for you
02:53 BotSteve Toastdude: I'll pass that on when ynos is around.
02:53 producerBill thanks... I suck at IRC... and it feels like everything else
02:54 producerBill feeling down.
02:54 Toastdude :( You don't suck at IRC...
02:55 producerBill I just have no memory anymore
02:55 producerBill I think my brain is failing
02:56 Toastdude No, you just didn't know the command...
02:56 producerBill lol ya
03:01 HighMan Hi producerBill
03:01 HighMan IRC rules!
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03:02 producerBill ya
03:02 HighMan I gtg sleep xD
03:02 astro73|alice note to self: improve alice's single instance checking
03:03 HighMan|zZz Night lol
03:03 astro73|alice having my log duplicated makes for confusing conversations
03:13 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: No, it's just overloaded :)
03:13 Monkeh|Lap Too much stuff happening will do that to you, especially if Boden's involved
03:13 producerBill I feel over loaded. I need to say no more I think.
03:14 producerBill lol
03:14 producerBill that is true
03:14 tehdark45 producerBill, flush your cache
03:15 producerBill lol ya I wish. It seems like it just keep getting more and more dumped in.
03:15 producerBill to much in not enough out.
03:15 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: So, you're having seperate PSUs for the cameras around the building?
03:16 producerBill ya. little sub stations.
03:16 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: Which means no UPS cover :{
03:17 producerBill maybe not to start with
03:17 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: Get someone to donate some big, angry UPSes and a genset. :D
03:17 producerBill ya
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03:18 producerBill that would be cool
03:18 slewfoot_ Hey bill
03:18 producerBill although how about solor chargers or wind power.
03:18 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: They can be added.
03:18 producerBill After all it doesn't have to supply the main about of power
03:18 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: Wind might work, solar is probably not suitable in your location.
03:19 slewfoot_ Got the sign talking again.
03:19 producerBill nice
03:19 Monkeh|Lap slewfoot_: Was it Bill's cable?
03:19 producerBill slew tested the meters today
03:19 slewfoot_ Lol - no.  I think it was too many connections
03:20 producerBill good to hear the sign is working
03:20 Monkeh|Lap slewfoot_: Quality sign.. You guys could probably make a better one from scratch :)
03:20 slewfoot_ I don't think I'd want to tackle that project
03:21 slewfoot_ It's kind of amazing how much work is involved with this project
03:21 producerBill I want to build a big sign but the I don't understand the whole switching stuff.
03:21 Monkeh|Lap Hey, the lab going to get some Pis?
03:21 tonsofpcs pis?
03:21 Monkeh|Lap Raspberry ones
03:22 tonsofpcs for 3/14?
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03:22 Toastdude Wannabe!
03:22 Monkeh|Lap Toastdude: For what?
03:22 Toastdude ....?
03:23 tehdark45 oh noes a wannabe1987
03:23 Monkeh|Lap Toastdude: Tabfail, apologies
03:23 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: For what?
03:23 wannabe1987 oh noes, a tehdark45!
03:23 Toastdude Ah
03:23 tehdark45 ahh
03:23 tehdark45 everyone hide
03:23 wannabe1987 and a Toastdude!
03:23 wannabe1987 its a MONKEH!
03:23 Toastdude :D
03:23 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: IT IS I!
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03:23 wannabe1987 yay!
03:24 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: pi day...
03:24 Toastdude e!
03:24 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Oh.
03:24 Toastdude Not e factorial..
03:24 * wannabe1987 had a VERY interesting day at work o.o
03:24 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Well, they'll all be sold out by then I imagine.
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03:24 wannabe1987 so what we talkin about here?
03:24 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Raspberries.
03:25 tonsofpcs pis.
03:25 wannabe1987 nice.  $25 dollar ones?
03:25 tonsofpcs pi pies.
03:25 wannabe1987 what day is pi day on?  monday?
03:25 wannabe1987 if i make pies for the lab for pi day, how many would i need?
03:25 wannabe1987 or pi cakes?
03:25 slewfoot_ Hey bill, what version of .net do you need on that machine?
03:25 tonsofpcs the day before the ides of march...
03:25 wannabe1987 doesnt help
03:25 tonsofpcs wednesday
03:26 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Wednesday, 3.14159 will be sufficient.
03:26 tonsofpcs (per my calendar here)
03:26 wannabe1987 ok
03:26 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: So, you planning to get one?
03:26 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: would be more hilarious if she made 2.71828 pi pies.
03:26 wannabe1987 i am NOT figuring out .1415926% of a pi
03:26 wannabe1987 why?
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03:27 Toastdude Figure out .14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937 of a pie.
03:27 tonsofpcs e (the base of the natural log) ~= 2.718281828459045...
03:27 wannabe1987 no
03:27 producerBill Slewfoot = Tod right?
03:27 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: just unreel the circumference...... ;)
03:27 slewfoot_ Todd - yes
03:27 wannabe1987 yes
03:27 Toastdude Or 1.414!
03:28 wannabe1987 or i could cut out numbers and use the 1415926xxxx as the top of the pi for the top pi crust
03:28 Monkeh|Lap Wow, this went off topic.
03:28 tonsofpcs just square the circle.
03:28 Toastdude 14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937?
03:28 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: we had a topic?
03:28 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yes, who's getting a Pi?
03:28 tonsofpcs I want a pi pie!
03:28 wannabe1987 we never have a topic
03:28 Monkeh|Lap And is the lab going to be investing in some cheap awesome?
03:28 Toastdude Technically the topic is about the LCD...
03:29 tonsofpcs I want pi pi pie.
03:29 wannabe1987 Toastdude: if i need more numbers i'll use my sisters "pi by pi" shirt from think geek
03:29 Toastdude Haha
03:29 producerBill slewfoot I tested my meter code today. I need to do more testing but the EMP energy from discharge seems to scramble the meters brain.
03:30 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: you need to get one of those sugar printer thingies
03:30 wannabe1987 fondant?
03:30 slewfoot_ Did you ground it?
03:30 wannabe1987 tastes nasty
03:30 tonsofpcs producerBill should be able to make one by pi day :)
03:30 producerBill Need to do more testing, but the one blast from Thumper brought things to a stop
03:30 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: no, there's printers that 'print' with colored sugar.  cake shops use them to put photos on cakes
03:30 producerBill system recovered, but needs more testing.
03:30 wannabe1987 ahhhh yes.  i have heard of that
03:30 tonsofpcs there's also edible ink that they use on rice paper, but that's not as fun.
03:30 wannabe1987 and i don't have one
03:31 producerBill what is pi day
03:31 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: Does it need a tin foil hat?
03:31 tonsofpcs producerBill: march 14.
03:31 wannabe1987 march 14
03:31 wannabe1987 3.14
03:31 wannabe1987 i want to say "derp"
03:31 producerBill i don't know
03:31 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: 3/14 in your weird, american parlance
03:31 Toastdude At 16:56 hours
03:32 tonsofpcs producerBill: build it a faraday cage with a single outlet, loop cabling out through another faraday cage w/hole 90 degrees off?
03:32 slewfoot_ What do you mean, scrambled? Did the comms die or what?
03:32 producerBill comms seem to be working, but it all just seemed to go side ways for a min
03:32 tonsofpcs producerBill: alternatively, eeprom? eprom?  can you use a straight PROM?
03:33 Sgt_Lemming producerBill, thumper EMP'd something?
03:34 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: I'd kinda expect it to
03:34 Sgt_Lemming Monkeh, depends on what it is, and how close, and what your were thumpering
03:35 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Some sort of small voltmeter at a guess, probably at Thumper itself, anything conductive. :P
03:35 tonsofpcs I don't think "what you were thumping" matters when you generate a ##kV square wave...
03:35 tonsofpcs "duration thumped" might matter.
03:35 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: When the cables generate a big enough magnetic field to visibly move..
03:36 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: physically moving might not be due to magnetics.  Could be due to a number of other things related to HV current (not the least of which is near-instantaneous thermal change)
03:37 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It was mentioned in a blog a while back iirc..
03:37 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Hold a compass in the room while it fires. ;)
03:38 Sgt_Lemming putting a magnetometer with peak hold near the cables would be interesting
03:38 tonsofpcs right, the fact that it generates a magnetic field (any wire carrying current does) doesn't mean that is what's moving them.
03:38 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: Assuming it survives the experience
03:38 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: I would think that there are CTs.  not sure...
03:38 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yes, but it was explicitly mentioned that they were generating sufficient fields to actually jump.
03:39 Sgt_Lemming tonsofpcs, it could be a combination of effects
03:40 Sgt_Lemming there is no way to know unless you measure it really
03:40 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: You buying a Pi?
03:41 * lwq1996 is rocking out to pandora radio
03:41 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: probably is. I mean, you can generate locomotion due to the electrons jumping between conductors in stranded cable/wire too.
03:42 Sgt_Lemming monkeh, not me personally, but a number of hsbne wires are
03:42 JA12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTVE5iPMKLg
03:42 BotSteve Title: Coffee: The Greatest Addiction Ever - YouTube
03:42 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: I'm pondering buying the lab one.
03:43 * tonsofpcs has no clue what "pi" you're talking about buying from where....
03:43 Sgt_Lemming lol
03:43 Sgt_Lemming wtf
03:43 Sgt_Lemming no idea why I wrote wires there
03:43 Sgt_Lemming meant to write members
03:43 tonsofpcs Sgt_Lemming: you now have a name for your general membership.
03:43 tonsofpcs :)
03:43 Monkeh|Lap Sgt_Lemming: I figured.
03:44 tonsofpcs now make up shirts and start a sports team.
03:44 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: You're really out of the loop aren't you?
03:44 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: yup
03:44 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: http://www.raspberrypi.org
03:44 BotSteve Title: Raspberry Pi | An ARM GNU/Linux box for $25. Take a byte!
03:45 ajprog_laptop they aren't selling them yet are they?
03:45 Monkeh|Lap ajprog_laptop: Should be available next week.
03:45 wannabe1987 so what can i do with one?
03:45 tonsofpcs interesting.
03:45 Monkeh|Lap First batch should be shipping.
03:45 wannabe1987 me, specifically
03:45 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: What can't you?
03:46 wannabe1987 a not-so-much-geek geek
03:46 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Not a lot
03:46 tonsofpcs I remember hearing about them being designed a while ago (hack-a-day maybe?)
03:46 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yeah, they've been around.
03:46 wannabe1987 can i learn stuff using them?
03:46 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: Sure, that's actually the idea.
03:46 wannabe1987 sounds good
03:46 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: hmm... wifi and HDMI?  and powered by USB?  So I can slap them on the back of a TV and use them as a networked display device?
03:46 wannabe1987 who wants to get me one?
03:46 Monkeh|Lap wannabe1987: For $25 you've got a working system you can't really break.
03:46 wannabe1987 sweet
03:47 wannabe1987 now i need a monitor!
03:47 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Ethernet and HDMI, power via micro-USB socket
03:47 tonsofpcs who was it that was looking at distributed display system....
03:47 tonsofpcs oh, not wireless, whatever, still useful
03:47 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: USB 2.0 available for wifi connection, or external bridge.
03:47 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: think it can handle VLC with direct display out?
03:48 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: The chip can do realtime h264 decoding at 1080p.
03:48 tonsofpcs awesome.
03:48 tonsofpcs can it do MPEG2 video also?
03:48 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Proprietary unfortunately, but there are no open solutions capable of that.
03:48 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It might, but it may well not be exposed.. the ARM should be able to handle MPEG2 at normal DVD res though.
03:49 tonsofpcs I need one to play with at work....
03:49 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: They're also supplied with no PSU or case.
03:49 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: right.  My larger displays have USB ports "for upgrades" which provide power, not sure if they reach 1A (would need to check).  Case is easy.
03:50 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Power's not a huge problem anyway, cheap phone charger.
03:51 tonsofpcs yea, I have a bin of miniUSB, microUSB might be harder to come by but still doable
03:51 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Also note you'll definitely want a network connection on the unit imo
03:51 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: They have no RTC.
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03:51 tonsofpcs how can they decode MPEG without a RTC?
03:51 producerBill2 I' baaaaack!
03:51 tonsofpcs PCR-referenced?
03:52 slewfoot_ What happened?
03:52 producerBill2 got kick for some reason
03:52 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Ask Broadcom.
03:52 producerBill2 not sure
03:52 tonsofpcs 22:43:23 -!- producerBill [633dfa19@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.61.250.25] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
03:52 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I might.
03:52 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It has timers. Just not a battery-backed RTC.
03:52 tonsofpcs first I'll ask the x.264 devs I know :)
03:52 BatSteve yo
03:52 BotSteve batsteve: I have the following messages for you:
03:52 BotSteve At 26 Feb 23:46Z, Sgt_Lemming asked me to tell batsteve something is wrong when you .utc, check your PM's for details
03:52 tonsofpcs oh, I don't care about battery-backed.
03:52 producerBill2 slew I found some code parts that,,, well lets just say could have caused a problem so maybe the meters are just fine.
03:53 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I'd expect it to drift over time quite drastically.
03:53 tonsofpcs what time it is doesn't matter as much as "how long ago was X"
03:53 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Not enough to affect MPEG playback, but you'll never maintain even a remotely close clock without a real RTC.
03:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Don't confuse RTC with timers. :)
03:54 lwq1996 hey its producer bill :P
03:54 BatSteve .seen Sgt_Lemming
03:54 BotSteve BatSteve: I last saw Sgt_Lemming 0.01 hours ago at 2012-02-27 03:53:35 UTC on #hsbne.  Current time: 03:54:25 UTC
03:54 tonsofpcs mind you, it'll need ethernet to deliver video anyway and that network would have a stratum-0 NTP server on it.
03:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: iirc power requirements are around 600-800mA.
03:54 BatSteve oh good
03:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: There you go then
03:54 BatSteve Sgt_Lemming: that's actually intended behavior, UTC is formatted differently than the other time codes.
03:54 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I need to get me a decent GPS source.
03:54 tonsofpcs well, it might be a subnet away from the stratum-0 and have a stratum-1 closer
03:55 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: you don't want to pay as much for yours as I did for mine, I don't think.
03:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: The more the merrier as far as NTP goes, y'know?
03:55 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I can get one on ebay for something like £30 iirc
03:55 tonsofpcs actually, I think this might be set up as a stratum-1... not sure if the gps clock is in the box or if it's in the antenna shell and rs232 down.... I have some devices each way.
03:56 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: These are available relatively easily: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=223&amp;ra=true
03:56 BatSteve well, let's see what we can do about that
03:56 wannabe1987 the lab needs a tardis anyone got a spare one?
03:56 tonsofpcs there's two of them on that network though, antennas about 10' from each other, they talk to each other over 232 to negotiate when it iss with more precision than anything most people care about.
03:56 BatSteve wrong channel, ignore
03:56 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: you can get the trimble reference sets cheap on ebay iirc
03:57 tonsofpcs I'd have to dig in some emails to find the exact model/reference to search for
03:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Price, cable, outdoor mounting?
03:57 tonsofpcs give a minute
03:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: GPS 18 LVC provides everything you need.
03:57 lwq1996 batsteve i got another .yuno to put into the bot. PANDORA, Y U NO LET ME SKIP!!!!!!
03:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Drill a hole in the wall, stick it outside and draw the cable in and terminate.
03:57 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Boom, stratum 0 time source
03:57 BatSteve lwq1996: ok, write it up and submit it
03:57 Toastdude Hi BatSteve!
03:57 BatSteve hi toast!
03:58 lwq1996 hey toastdude you want to put another yuno code in the bot :P
03:58 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Oh yeah, another thing about the Pi.. You do need a good power supply.
03:58 lwq1996 PANDORA, Y U NO LET ME SKIP!!!!!!
03:58 Toastdude Nah, you need the practice. :P
03:58 lwq1996 fuck
03:58 lwq1996 im tired, i'll do it tomorrow
03:58 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It takes the 5V raw. It assumes it's a real USB supply, not some cheap 5.5V chinese garbage
03:58 tonsofpcs ah, wait, "Thunderbolt GPSDO" is what was most recently suggested.   Not sure if it has a 'time' out, definitely has 1pps and 10MHz.
03:59 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: GPS 18 provides 1pps which is all you need
03:59 lwq1996 hey guys i got a super power, i can melt ice with my mind it just takes 10min :P
04:00 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I need better than that, actually.  Mind you, my case is crazy special :)
04:00 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Indeed ;)
04:00 tonsofpcs lwq1996: don't think too hard.
04:00 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's not scientific quality.
04:00 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It is, however, absolutely fine for 99% of uses :D
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04:01 producerBill keep getting kicked... fucking dsl modem.
04:01 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: my use cases are: FM Radio oscillator reference (most tolerant of drift/lower precision), HDRadio timing reference (in theory least tolerant), and video timing reference (in practice least tolerant)
04:01 lwq1996 BILL!!!!!!!! YOU BROKE IT
04:01 producerBill need to call ATT I guess
04:01 tonsofpcs producerBill: can you get at your modem's logs?
04:01 lwq1996 lol
04:01 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: So unusual, more unusual, even more unusual.
04:01 tonsofpcs right, I said crazy special :-p
04:02 producerBill no
04:02 tonsofpcs also, I would think that HDRadio is much more unusual than video timing reference.
04:02 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: Try with a proper client, web clients blow.
04:02 producerBill I has had a problem for a long time.. and now it is getting worse. Time to spend some time on it.
04:02 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: Cable, (A,S,V,others)DSL?
04:02 tonsofpcs (in theory, HDRadio needs to be synced to GPS because 'eventually' there will be no carrier to reference phase against so receivers will reference to GPS.  In practice, no one does this yet so it can run referenced to the carrier)
04:03 producerBill recommend a free one.
04:03 tonsofpcs irssi, kvirc, uh... what OS?
04:03 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Referencing to GPS seems a pain in the butt seeing as GPS signals are damned hard to find compared to radio.
04:03 producerBill windows
04:03 producerBill hi
04:03 tonsofpcs producerBill: kvirc is actually free.
04:04 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I can lose GPS just by picking the wrong corner of the house and still watch HD TV with a hand-held antenna.
04:04 Monkeh|Lap producerBill: http://www.silverex.org/news/
04:04 BotSteve Title: X-Chat 2 for Windows
04:04 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: right.  Mind you, once you have a GPS lock, a good RTC (like in most GPS receivers) will keep you relatively stable for a few days.
04:04 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: There is that.
04:04 tonsofpcs and for time, if you know which half of  the world you're on, you need... 5 sats?
04:05 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Hence almost any serious GPS kit requiring line of sight to the sky
04:05 tonsofpcs I lock 9 sats in about 4 seconds with only a 50% sky view at one of my sites...
04:05 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: In the house I'm lucky to get any. Stick a receiver on my front wall and I'll get a fix on at least seven.
04:06 tonsofpcs (it's adjacent to the building, there's *some* trees along the horizon, but not much; rest is wide open
04:06 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: right, I never said it was a good idea.
04:06 Monkeh|Lap Normally I can get 9 from inside through the window, outside I should get more. Roof would get literally everything visible in the sky
04:06 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I suppose in theory, once carriers disappear, you could watch two stations, presume they are both properly aligned, and derive time from them...
04:06 Monkeh|Lap There's a lot of the buggers up there
04:07 Monkeh|Lap 31, actually.
04:07 tonsofpcs I thought they were numbered to 31 but two fewer existed?
04:07 tonsofpcs *checks*
04:07 tonsofpcs (I have an old GPS that can only see the first 16)
04:08 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: There are 31 operating
04:08 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: 60 launched in total.
04:08 Monkeh|Lap Sorry, 60 successful.
04:08 Monkeh|Lap 2 failures
04:08 tonsofpcs well, yea, I guess they're not the "first 16" anymore, but the first 16 ids.
04:08 Monkeh|Lap iirc I can get 11 or 12 from here from time to time
04:09 Monkeh|Lap I get amazing views of the sky, just wish I wasn't in the middle of a town
04:09 tonsofpcs I think that's about the most that you'll see anywhere.
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04:10 tonsofpcs I can check to see what we get at two sites from 'home base' at work, other sites (including one with an amazing sky view) I'd have to drive to
04:10 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Pretty much. Average is 9 iirc, sometimes only 7.
04:10 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I'm looking forward to Galileo being operational.
04:10 tonsofpcs 7 is the minimum for a full 4D lock if you don't know which side of the globe you're on and you lack a RTC iirc.
04:10 Zozo-Laptop im tired as hell but im finally "close" to the lab
04:10 eadthem close    you driving?
04:10 tonsofpcs Zozo-Laptop: traveling there?
04:11 Zozo-Laptop i had to leave north carolina (work issues) so i decided to make a trip up to the lab for a bit see if i can find a job close by if not ill stay for a bit then head to chicago
04:11 wannabe1987 hi hhrlisa
04:11 Toastdude Hi Lisa
04:12 wannabe1987 and zozo
04:12 lwq1996 its the sexy lisa :P
04:12 eadthem they might pay you to feed stomper :p
04:12 Zozo-Laptop wannabe... you dont need to say hi, we are in the same teamspeak channel =P
04:12 wannabe1987 lol
04:12 eadthem prob wont be much
04:12 wannabe1987 i say hi to just about everyone.....if i'm here :P
04:13 tonsofpcs "hi everybody!"
04:13 Zozo-Laptop thats one reason i was heading there was to help out with stomper
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04:13 eadthem ya btw   why dont they bolt a sacrafical copper block to the top of the bulldog
04:13 tonsofpcs I still don't understand stomper.  I need to see a mechanical of how it gets wired for operation so it makes sense
04:13 tonsofpcs hi kvircbill
04:13 Zozo-Laptop find a normal job, do some research into starting a company and go from there
04:13 eadthem and bolt the cores to that
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04:13 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Still get shredded.
04:13 hhrlisa_ sorry this hates me
04:14 producerBill_Lap ok trying this out
04:14 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: What don't you understand?
04:14 eadthem the bulldog would still be shredded?
04:14 hhrlisa_ BILL!!!
04:14 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: what it does/how it does it.
04:14 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Yes.
04:14 producerBill_Lap lisa!!!!!!
04:14 tonsofpcs (physically/electrically, not the physics behind why it makes stuff shrink)
04:14 eadthem i mean a sacrifical copper block that holds the core wires out about 1/2 inch from the bulldog
04:14 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: The problem is partly just the physical shock.
04:15 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: that's easily solved by making the conductors out of teflon... oh, wait :-p
04:15 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Caps get charged up, charger gets disconnected, caps get shorted out across the coil?
04:15 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: no, on the 'interface' side
04:15 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: The control panel?
04:15 tonsofpcs like, they do something to prep whatever they hook up.  What do they do and how do they hook it up?
04:16 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: inside the bin
04:16 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Oh, the sample connection?
04:16 lwq1996 http://www.ohmypictures.com/english-troll_377.html
04:16 BotSteve Title: English Troll - Oh!!! My Pictures
04:16 hhrlisa_ why is it when i say hi to bill he leaves
04:16 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: sure, if that's what you want to call it.
04:16 producerBill_Lap i am still here
04:16 tonsofpcs hhrlisa_: he's having connection problems.  He might still be here.
04:16 hhrlisa_ lol yay
04:17 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Uh, two large copper terminations for the cables, coil is bolted down across them?
04:17 lwq1996 hhrlisa_: why are you so damn sexy :P
04:17 producerBill_Lap can people read my post?
04:17 hhrlisa_ yes
04:17 wannabe1987 hi bill
04:17 Druidic_Rifleman hey lisa
04:17 hhrlisa_ Bill we read you
04:17 producerBill_Lap ok I am losing my mind
04:17 producerBill_Lap lol
04:17 hhrlisa_ lol
04:17 Druidic_Rifleman i want a burger
04:17 Monkeh|Lap producerBill_Lap: No, you're totally invisible. ;)
04:17 eadthem producerBill_Lap dont worry   its right here
04:17 hhrlisa_ Bill about thursday.. your house? tgg?? i wanna know
04:17 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: what coil?
04:17 producerBill_Lap we are going to try tgg....
04:17 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: The coil around the coin?
04:18 producerBill_Lap I need to get things hooked up
04:18 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: this is what I'm asking about...
04:18 * lwq1996 pokes masterofmonks awake
04:18 hhrlisa_ woot!! im excited!!
04:18 eadthem ok now i know how much force we are talking about  but i was also thinking
04:18 tonsofpcs because all I've seen of stomper is "HV shock PSU" and control system.
04:18 lwq1996 hhrlisa_:  so hhr is at tgg this week?
04:18 eadthem i wonder if its possable to make a permanent winding
04:18 * masterofmonks opens one eye and looks at lwq1996
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04:18 hhrlisa_ seems that way
04:18 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: It's a coil of wire wrapped carefully around the sample (coin between two blocks of UHMW at present iirc, wrapped in tape to insulate)
04:18 eadthem corse said winding would have to be made out of like 1/4 inch thick copper plate
04:19 lwq1996 hi botsteve
04:19 BotSteve Word up lwq1996!
04:19 tonsofpcs UHMW?
04:19 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: The dimensions and exact winding is being kept secret iirc.
04:19 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Ultra high molecular weight polyethylene
04:19 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: 'really tough plastic'
04:19 lwq1996 masterofmonks do you agree skindred is an awesome band
04:19 BatSteve doh
04:20 tonsofpcs right, I can translate "ultra high molecular weight polyethylene" into "really tough plastic", it's the UHMW > Ultra High Molecular Weight polyethylene that was hard :)
04:20 masterofmonks Never heard of them.
04:20 tonsofpcs masterofmonks: do you agree spatula?
04:20 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Sorry, assumed you watched more blogs. ;P
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04:20 lwq1996 o.O you've never heard of skindred and your a metal fan
04:20 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: there's only so much time in the day.
04:21 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Take my advice and never try to learn too much about plastics.
04:21 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: where I went to school, there was a plastics class.
04:21 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: There is insufficient capacity in your brain for all the various materials going. :)
04:21 masterofmonks tonsofpcs, Skillet.
04:21 tonsofpcs (I didn't take it, roommate did.  They learn to identify plastics by burning smell.)
04:21 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Oh, that's a great idea.
04:22 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I swear, none of these plastics give off harmful gasses when burnt.
04:22 Monkeh|Lap Really. Totally safe.
04:22 tonsofpcs eadthem: skin effect.  how about using concentric wrapping of copper strap with teflon (or similar) in betweeen?
04:22 BatSteve night all
04:22 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: that's just one of the silly things they did that I know about.
04:22 eadthem tonsofpcs that would prob work as well
04:22 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: some of them they can identify without burning.
04:23 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Since when does skin effect apply to Stomper?
04:23 eadthem corse when i say 1/4 inch plate   only the outer surface would conduct
04:23 eadthem the rest is just material to dissapate heat
04:23 eadthem and strenght
04:23 eadthem Monkeh|Lap  everything     skin effect is a function of rate of change in current
04:23 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: how long do they discharge?
04:24 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Quite briefly.
04:24 eadthem you go from 0 to 1000000 amps   skin effect inducance will matter a lot
04:24 Monkeh|Lap I thought skin effect was an AC problem.
04:24 tonsofpcs so you have a (relatively) square wave with frequency 1/[quite briefly] Hz.
04:24 lwq1996 masterofmonks what type of anvil is that
04:24 lwq1996 if you say cast i will hit you :P
04:24 tonsofpcs a square wave is composed of the fundamental and all of the odd-order harmonics.
04:24 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I can identify plastics without burning, there are a number of ways.
04:25 eadthem Monkeh|Lap  skin effect is just inducance of a strait wire
04:25 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: they also can identify by smell of non-burning plastics
04:25 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Yes, for those which have a smell.
04:25 eadthem its purely rate of change of current
04:25 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: yes. (and have not been contaminated by other smells)
04:26 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Fairly easy to tell the smells apart.
04:26 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: basically they spend a semester learning the differences between a bazillion kinds of plastics and how to identify and use each
04:26 eadthem so you can have say a 1Mhz voltage waveform on a wire  but the current is strictly at 1HZ      you would have realy no skin effect
04:26 * Monkeh|Lap has dealt with plastics more than he'd like, less than he wanted
04:26 eadthem on the other hand if you have strait DC voltage but say your current waveform is primarly 1Mhz   you will have skin effect
04:27 eadthem anyone mesure how fast stomper discharges   ie in nanoseconds
04:27 lwq1996 FUCK YOU PANDORA I WANT TO SKIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
04:27 tonsofpcs eadthem: 60Hz mains has a skin effect, it just isn't appreciable until you're dealing with a lot of it.  I'd presume the same occurs at 1Hz.  Also, if the 1Hz isn't pure sine, you have faster sine waves in there.
04:27 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Very sodding fast.
04:28 eadthem right but    if your drawing current from 60hz mains at say 1Mhz  the skin effect will be much worse
04:28 eadthem ie  a unfilterd switching power supply
04:28 eadthem such effect is also called power factor
04:28 * tonsofpcs sends eadthem to correct his power fac
04:28 tonsofpcs damnit :-p
04:28 Monkeh|Lap And what sort of waveform do you get out of a simple capacitor being shorted?
04:29 eadthem dam thin spike
04:29 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: depends.  Probably something like |\.
04:29 eadthem but of corse  1 or 100 nanoseconds    is a hell of a lot of diffrence in skin effect
04:29 eadthem accualy its probably got a decent rampup and down
04:29 tonsofpcs anyway, I propose copper strap lined with an insulator on one side, wrapped tightly.
04:30 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Feel free to go hook your scope up to Stomper.
04:30 eadthem as the air ionises between the switchplates  the resistance would drop   fast but still not go from 0 to 100% conductance
04:30 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: I take no responsibility for it being a fried mess when all is said and done. :)
04:30 tonsofpcs eadthem: they precharge it then short to discharge, so the ramp up to max current should be relatively fast (depending on wire length, of course).
04:30 eadthem accualy thats not a bad idea
04:30 eadthem sadly i dont have a DSO
04:31 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: And if you did you'd happily connect it to a 6kV impulse generator known to have EMP problems?
04:31 tonsofpcs DSO?  I know someone selling one of those scope-shooting polariods if you want an "AS" for your O ;)
04:31 eadthem corse with the right settings and a DSLR camera that can hold its shutter open my tektronics 2246 shuld beable to capture that
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04:32 eadthem Monkeh|Lap  its all in how you hook it up
04:32 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: this is why we can't have nice things.   Oh, wait, forget that!  Hollow state scope!
04:32 Monkeh|Lap eadthem: Good luck with that.
04:32 Monkeh|Lap I'm keeping my tools and all my body parts well clear of that thing when it's charged :P
04:33 Monkeh|Lap The 50kV model is going to be... scary.
04:33 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: just stick CTs on it and rrun them to the scope?
04:33 tonsofpcs of course, you may need to use two wound reverse and run them in a balanced fashion...
04:33 Monkeh|Lap I'm sure you two are aware of what will happen to someone who shorts out a 50kV cap with themselves.
04:34 Monkeh|Lap And on that cheery thought, sleep
04:34 tonsofpcs what 50kV cap? what 'someone'?
04:34 eadthem you need 2 .1uf 12KV isolation cap   a 12KV rated 1 gigaohm resistor
04:34 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: One of the several they have at the lab.
04:34 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: no, that's what happens.
04:34 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: Ah.
04:34 eadthem accualy 100pF shuld be more than sufficant
04:35 Monkeh|Lap tonsofpcs: I.. was thinking somewhat more graphically. :P
04:35 eadthem with the 1Gohm resisistor alone a oscope shuld handle it
04:36 tonsofpcs Monkeh|Lap: I'd rather you not, it's bed-time.
04:36 eadthem 100Mohm with a 10x probe
04:36 tonsofpcs [g'nite]
04:36 tonsofpcs eadthem: but you want to see current, not voltage, no?
04:36 eadthem well that will show you voltage
04:37 tonsofpcs I mean, you're not dealing with j0 here, it isn't simple math to figure out.
04:37 eadthem to see current isnt to hard ither
04:37 eadthem at this level of current you shuld beable to see it in say a 2 foot strech of the bussbar
04:38 tonsofpcs rather than an o-scope, you could use a deflection needle (like a seismograph)
04:38 eadthem for voltage you would want to use 1-2  and 2 inputs
04:39 eadthem both with 1Gohm resistors  1 connected to the - cap side   1 to the positive
04:39 eadthem current would be more tricky
04:40 tonsofpcs it's also a stranded wire set, so your ct readings won't be 100% clean, but the rise/fall time is all that you're after so it shouldn't matter too much.
04:40 eadthem you would want to ground the - side realy well and then use 1-2 and 2 inputs   input 1 close to the cap  input 2 say 2 feet away from the cap  on the - rail
04:40 eadthem both on the grounded - rail
04:40 tonsofpcs hhmm... now that I think abuot it...
04:41 tonsofpcs could you not just put a small-gauge jumper parallel to one of the feeders and put a CT on that?
04:41 eadthem well ya  you could put a narrowed copper section in the - rail and mesure the 2 sides and compaire
04:41 eadthem ie  1-2
04:42 eadthem defantly well grounded   agan
04:42 eadthem as if you have more than 100V movement on ground  your oscope wont like it
04:42 tonsofpcs well, you have these two huge wires that feed from the box to the bin, right? just hook a piece of 12 AWG copper in parallel with one of them and clamp a CT around it.  You're just looking for rise/fall, not actual readings....
04:42 Druidic_Rifleman hmmm Also hhrlisa_ i want a bottle of kalishnikov vodka
04:43 tonsofpcs Druidic_Rifleman: automat?
04:43 Druidic_Rifleman the Liquirw control communisys who run the LCBO
04:43 wannabe1987 vodka?
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04:43 wannabe1987 where?
04:43 Druidic_Rifleman feel it's two negitive of a product
04:43 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: everywhere!
04:43 wannabe1987 zomg
04:43 wannabe1987 not here
04:43 wannabe1987 i 'm out
04:43 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: but mostly russia, obv :)
04:43 * egrsteve wonders about analog hall effect sensors
04:43 wannabe1987 lol
04:43 wannabe1987 someone drank mine :looks at blake:
04:43 eadthem hey   they got wires going to the meter in the panel
04:44 eadthem what voltage is that meter rated for
04:44 tonsofpcs egrsteve: aren't they non-linear? (hall-effect)
04:44 eadthem you could oscope that real easy to see the voltage discharge
04:44 egrsteve not sure
04:44 eadthem current you would still have to run 2 new wires however
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04:44 tonsofpcs eadthem: I fail to see why 2...
04:44 egrsteve even if non-linear it could be calibrated with math
04:44 eadthem 1 refrence  2nd  mesure
04:44 Druidic_Rifleman tonsofpc'sit's a brand of vodka named after the enventer of the AK family of weapons
04:45 Druidic_Rifleman one of my idols
04:45 eadthem its called kelven sense
04:45 Druidic_Rifleman ttyl
04:45 Druidic_Rifleman FOOOD!!!
04:45 egrsteve the meter has a divider board that is 1000:1
04:45 eadthem when mesuring curent you dont assume all grounds are equal
04:45 tonsofpcs eadthem: reference it to the wall, backround radiation, whatever.  You're looking for rise and fall times, not actual values.
04:45 egrsteve the meter input range is 20v
04:45 eadthem you mesure the ground on the rail with input 1  and mesure the voltage drop passed the resistance on input 2
04:45 egrsteve so 20v on the meter input would be 20k on the bank
04:45 eadthem input 1 - input 2 = value
04:46 tonsofpcs eadthem: again, I suggest a free-floating CT or similar sensor.
04:46 eadthem the problem is your discharging a hell of a lot of current   so  the wall ground could bounce by quite a fue volts
04:46 egrsteve problem is not saturating the ct
04:46 eadthem well you could use a CT
04:46 eadthem exactly
04:47 eadthem resistive section is alot better
04:47 eadthem for this applcation
04:47 tonsofpcs eadthem: but you don't have a purely resistive section.
04:47 eadthem you have a copper busbar
04:47 eadthem ie resistive section
04:47 egrsteve voltage across a shunt ie bus bar is an option
04:47 egrsteve if you know the shunt resistance accurately enough
04:48 eadthem at this curernt level i bet you wouldnt even need to narrow it
04:48 tonsofpcs eadthem: I'd bet that it's not [value]j0.
04:49 egrsteve you can't just calc the res based on material and dims eaither due to inductance and skin effect as well
04:49 tonsofpcs egrsteve: what do you think about paralleling a 12AWG conductor to one of the feeders to the bin and putting a CT on that?
04:49 egrsteve so getting the shunt impediance could be an issue
04:49 eadthem R = rho(lenght/area)
04:50 egrsteve R yes we need Z
04:50 tonsofpcs eadthem: but it's not purely resistive, it's got complex impedence.
04:50 eadthem right
04:50 egrsteve rise times are fast enough z is neded
04:50 tonsofpcs I mean, I suppose you could build a network to measure it, but at what frequency?  thaat's the whole purpose of this!
04:51 eadthem theres 2 complex impedances
04:51 egrsteve thats why I sudgested hall effect
04:51 eadthem well in this case
04:51 eadthem inducance of the wire   wich can also be calculated easaly
04:51 egrsteve a know dist from the feeder measure the magetic field
04:51 egrsteve and work back to the current
04:51 eadthem and skin effect  witch can be calculated  ironicly after mesuring the waveform
04:51 eadthem based on the fundamental
04:51 tonsofpcs egrsteve: well, we don't really care what the current is, we just want tto learn rise/fall times.
04:52 egrsteve hmm, times
04:52 egrsteve voltage or current or both
04:52 egrsteve voltage is easy
04:52 tonsofpcs both, but voltage is easy.  current is what we're talkinga bout
04:52 eadthem the rho of copper is  5.96×107
04:52 eadthem the rho of copper is  5.96×10^7
04:52 tonsofpcs hence my random 12awg jumper idea :)
04:53 tonsofpcs eadthem: this isn't 99.99999999% oxygen-free copper, so you're probably off by a bit :-p
04:53 egrsteve I would still go hall effect, times will be obvious there, even if magnitude is not accurate
04:53 eadthem thats for copper   non annealed
04:53 egrsteve it will give the current pulse shape
04:53 tonsofpcs egrsteve: how hard would it be for you to do that?
04:54 eadthem how wide and thick are the bussbars
04:54 egrsteve place a analog hall effect sensor far enough away from the feed that is does not saturate it
04:54 tonsofpcs (we're really trying to figure out a reusable coil method, but the skin effect matters, which is why we want the current waveform :)
04:54 wannabe1987 whats the dude from iowa's name at the lab?
04:54 egrsteve it may take a few tries to find the sweet spot
04:54 wannabe1987 i figure i should know this before going tomorrow....
04:54 tonsofpcs there's a dude from iowa?
04:54 eadthem well gues thers not much lenght on the negitive busbar
04:55 wannabe1987 yeah, his wife went to paris, so he came to the lab
04:55 wannabe1987 much cheaper for him :P
04:55 tonsofpcs nice
04:55 ajprog_laptop he left on sat
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04:55 wannabe1987 ahhh ok
04:55 wannabe1987 i'm watching satruday's vid
04:55 tonsofpcs egrsteve: I think the exterior wall (or perhaps even the 'overlook office' should be close enough if power to that area is cut)
04:55 wannabe1987 JEFF.  i'm bringing cookies tomorrow to the lab
04:55 ajprog_laptop ok
04:56 ajprog_laptop I don't know when I will be there
04:56 Zozo-Laptop im bringing myself to the lab tomorrow
04:56 wannabe1987 yay
04:56 eadthem sorry the rho of copper is 1.68×10^8
04:56 tonsofpcs I'm bringing myself to... uh... work tomorrow.
04:56 eadthem sorry the rho of copper is 1.68×10^-8
04:56 eadthem mirc dosent like special symbols :p
04:56 tonsofpcs work, where I probably have much better rho tables than whatever eadthem is looking at over and over again :-p
04:56 wannabe1987 i say we get BatSteve to come as well :D
04:56 wannabe1987 he's not that far from you...
04:57 tonsofpcs I say you get BatSteve to land a cessna in the alley behind the labs.
04:57 eadthem ya i was looking at semens the first time
04:57 wannabe1987 lol
04:57 tonsofpcs eadthem: I have some nice crazy engineering references that I got from a book sale last summer.
04:58 eadthem got my rho and sigma mixed up
04:58 tonsofpcs crazy folks in ithaca have _everything_ imaginable.
04:59 tonsofpcs http://www.booksale.org/ << the right corner where you see people standing around, that aisle was engineering reference.
04:59 BotSteve Title: Tompkins County Friends of the Library :: Home
04:59 tonsofpcs feel free to tell me if you're looking for something before the next time I go
05:01 Sgt_Lemming http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wC42HgLA4k
05:01 BotSteve Title: The Trouble with the Electoral College - YouTube
05:02 egrsteve http://search.digikey.com/us/en/products/SS49E-L/480-3597-ND/2561118
05:02 BotSteve Title: Digi-Key - 480-3597-ND (Manufacturer - SS49E-L)
05:02 egrsteve 1mg/gauss
05:02 egrsteve 1mv/gauss
05:02 egrsteve 1000 gauss rated
05:03 tonsofpcs egrsteve: ok, so stand on the other side of the church.
05:03 tonsofpcs :)
05:04 wannabe1987 amy ages well
05:04 egrsteve yay, given the inverse square law is shouldn't be too far
05:05 egrsteve the problem is not canceling between the 2 cables, although partial caneling might help bring things into range sonner
05:05 egrsteve *sooner
05:06 egrsteve that caneling should be calcable knowing inner cable distance
05:07 tonsofpcs put it on the ceiling, centeered between the two?
05:08 tonsofpcs actually, hmm..
05:08 wannabe1987 hahahha CB is NOT a kids show....
05:08 tonsofpcs put it in-line with them:  ex:   ===                        * here.
05:08 egrsteve at .2m it should be about 1000 gauss at 100000 amps
05:08 egrsteve and that does not include partial field canceling
05:09 tonsofpcs because anywhere that they have partial cancellation, that cancellation will be frequency dependant... and ruin the point.
05:10 tonsofpcs and since you don't know charge/discharge ffequencies (what wwe're trying to discover), you can't calculate a fully constructtive/destructive point along any concentric circle.
05:10 wannabe1987 anyone wanna come over and give me a back rub?  mine hurts
05:11 egrsteve no, the cancelation is due to field in oposide direction on each wire, assuming we can ignore propogation speed in the wire
05:12 tonsofpcs right, you also have to ignore propogation speed in air.
05:12 egrsteve ie sensor is .3m from one wire, .2 from the other calc field at each dist and take differance for final field strength
05:12 tonsofpcs mind you, the larger your sensor is, the less this matters.
05:13 egrsteve the sensors are tiny
05:13 egrsteve it 1/4" square
05:13 egrsteve *ie
05:13 egrsteve think to92 package
05:14 Druidic_Rifleman mmmm burger
05:14 wannabe1987 lol
05:14 tonsofpcs i mean, you're basically building an antenna system to receive signal from two identical sources with unknown temporal offset at unknown (and most likely changing) frequency(s)
05:16 egrsteve the frequency should be fixed on the LC value of the circuit
05:16 * Cprossu checks this out
05:16 Cprossu what's up dudes?
05:16 Cprossu (and dude-ettes?)
05:16 wannabe1987 sup
05:16 wannabe1987 not much
05:16 egrsteve we need the wraped quarter inductace and the capacitance for a rough frequency
05:16 wannabe1987 watching cp
05:16 wannabe1987 b
05:16 Cprossu egrsteve: do we need to put it in a Y configuration with 3 wrapped samples?
05:16 egrsteve I am assumeing relatice the to wraped quarter the inductance of the leads is negligable
05:17 tonsofpcs i mean, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Interferences_plane_waves.jpg/220px-Interferences_plane_waves.jpg assumes static frequency and even that would be hard to place properly.
05:17 Cprossu then egrsteve we can install it in a car
05:17 Cprossu and go 88mph
05:17 tonsofpcs Cprossu: it's an indcutor, not a capacitor.
05:17 Cprossu fine it'll be a flux inductor!
05:17 tonsofpcs heh
05:18 tonsofpcs and we have those Y-shaped inductive thingies already, they're called "3-phase wye service transformers"
05:18 * lwq1996 pokes kellers
05:19 tonsofpcs here's a sample: http://www.buckboosttransformer.net/3%20Phase%20Wye%20Diagram%20A_small.jpg
05:19 tonsofpcs (hey, it could be wild-leg delta instead!)
05:19 egrsteve I know the hall effect is a bit of a long shot but it might be the safest place to start for current waveform measuring
05:20 egrsteve to be honest voltage and current should have the same or very similar waveforms, just offset
05:21 tonsofpcs egrsteve: hall should probably work, just place the sensor in-line with a ray parallel and centered between the two major conductors
05:21 egrsteve so we might be best capturing voltage and using that as a starting point for ways to measure the current as we will know frequency
05:22 egrsteve agreed
05:22 tonsofpcs I still want to try my crazy branch-parallel ct idea.
05:22 egrsteve that was what I was thinking
05:23 egrsteve we only have a 1ft length of wire to work with there but due to the small sensor size 1ft is a long relative length, we just need to see how close we can get it w/o saturating the sensor
05:23 egrsteve as that is the big variable
05:23 tonsofpcs I mean, in theory you could run a piece of 24awg from a point on a feeder across the room and back to another point on the same feeder, put the ct where the 24awg is across the room... it should carry its current carrying capacity which would be enough for a waveform
05:23 tonsofpcs or am I off-base with that line of thought?
05:23 * lwq1996 punches pandora
05:24 * tonsofpcs wraps lwq1996's fists with a pillow
05:24 lwq1996 pandora woulnt let me skip
05:24 egrsteve idk, I don't know how well that would work
05:25 lwq1996 If she changes partners more than a Square Dancer, SHE'S TOO SLUTTY FOR YOU BRO!!!
05:26 * egrsteve needs sleep, tons think on the hall effect, it could be a fun way to measure it, and should be safe to hook to a scope being fully isolated
05:27 wannabe1987 sleep good steve
05:27 wannabe1987 have fun at school tomorrow :P
05:39 Zozo-Laptop zozo...brain..no...workie...goodnight, ill see anyone who goes to the lab tomorrow
05:40 wannabe1987 lol
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05:55 wannabe1987 lol he calls omni "jealous bitch"
05:57 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell tehdark45 no, not even if you're lazy!  you never eat a kit kat like a snickers!
05:57 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when tehdark45 is around.
06:01 hhrlisa_ anyone else think a 5 min capt blog is just not enough
06:04 wannabe1987 lol
06:04 wannabe1987 but he fits!
06:04 wannabe1987 lol
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06:05 wannabe1987 hi AgCNO6
06:05 wannabe1987 "its like a tree fort"
06:05 wannabe1987 ....
06:05 hhrlisa_ its nothing like a tree fort... however i will say it will be perfect to stalk master control with
06:06 hhrlisa_ I mean wait.. research master control
06:09 wannabe1987 lol
06:09 wannabe1987 hi lisa how goes life?
06:10 hhrlisa_ it goes
06:11 wannabe1987 thats good
06:11 hhrlisa_ just about to start typing up a letter to my bosses
06:11 wannabe1987 for?
06:12 Av_Nekoroms oh lisa is here too :))
06:13 hhrlisa_ well i had told me manager that i wanted to go down to three days a week. due to being pregnant needing more sleep etc. well i told her i preferred to work mon, tues, and wed. but she said she didn't do preferences. I am writing a letter to let her and my gm know that i will only be able to work mon-wed from now on. if they schedule me for anything else i wont work it.
06:14 wannabe1987 ah.
06:14 Av_Nekoroms i think some work would be beter than no work at all..
06:15 hhrlisa_ yeah i told her 3 days starting march 5th. march 5ths schedule has me on for 4 days.
06:15 hhrlisa_ in all honesty i hope they just fire me so i can collect unemployment
06:16 Av_Nekoroms ...
06:16 Av_Nekoroms i would do about anything to get a job..
06:17 wannabe1987 but you're not living for two atm, are you?
06:17 Av_Nekoroms wannabe1987: so you are asaying its fine to let jobs go :)
06:17 wannabe1987 no
06:18 hhrlisa_ av  i understand that. which is why im not quiting. its just third shift, coupled with being pregnant, and having a three year old already an no time to sleep it's really taking a toll on my health. my health and the health of my unborn child is more important then some job
06:18 Av_Nekoroms hhrlisa_: i really understand that..
06:18 Av_Nekoroms ofcourse something like that has top priority
06:19 hhrlisa_ im all for working the three days im telling them ill work. but i will not work more than that. also working 5 nights a week, my husband working first shift, i never see my family. i feel like my son is growing up with out me. and it hurts
06:19 Av_Nekoroms doh me has to go out to move my truck..
06:20 wannabe1987 yay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
06:20 Av_Nekoroms tomorrow it will snow so i dont want to be at the same spot for a month :)
06:21 wannabe1987 i see
06:21 Av_Nekoroms http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-kbMF1GF2A
06:21 BotSteve Title: Cassetteboy vs The News - YouTube
06:21 Av_Nekoroms nsfw
06:21 hhrlisa_ brb
06:22 Av_Nekoroms rofl.. thats the kind of news that i would watch
06:23 wannabe1987 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQIMGV5vtd4&amp;feature=context&amp;context=G24713e0RVAAAAAAAADA
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06:23 BotSteve Title: A Swarm of Nano Quadrotors - YouTube
06:23 wannabe1987 thanks to Toastdude, thats awesome
06:24 Av_Nekoroms ah that old video..
06:24 Av_Nekoroms awesome aswell
06:24 wannabe1987 yes
06:24 wannabe1987 i've never seen it
06:24 hhrlisa_ back
06:24 wannabe1987 wb
06:24 hhrlisa_ ty
06:25 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i go to bed as well?
06:25 BotSteve No way
06:25 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i go to bed
06:25 BotSteve Absolutely
06:25 wannabe1987 ok
06:27 hhrlisa_ lol
06:27 wannabe1987 what?
06:27 wannabe1987 BotSteve helps me make non-important life deisions....
06:27 wannabe1987 sometimes important ones too
06:27 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i move out?
06:27 BotSteve Oh yeah!
06:28 astro73|alice i thought you had a pretty good place?
06:29 wannabe1987 i do
06:29 wannabe1987 but
06:29 wannabe1987 reasons
06:29 wannabe1987 incl having people spend the night
06:29 wannabe1987 is an issue
06:29 wannabe1987 esp geeks for tgg who need a couch
06:33 Druidic_Rifleman I wonder
06:34 Druidic_Rifleman Bitviper you mentioned wanting to do a TGG RC project???
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06:41 Druidic_Rifleman BotSteve: tell BitViper http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/2/15/f2c70fb8-6100-4f4d-afe9-33c11117c0b0.Large.jpg we needsomething like this for the lab
06:41 BotSteve Druidic_Rifleman: I'll pass that on when BitViper is around.
06:42 Druidic_Rifleman BotSteve: tell BitViper you think we coulddesign it
06:42 BotSteve Druidic_Rifleman: I'll pass that on when BitViper is around.
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07:01 Cheezmo Druidic_Rifleman: that drone's engines remond me of the Piaggion P-180 Avanti's engines
07:01 Cheezmo Piaggio*
07:03 Druidic_Rifleman it reminds me of a A10 thunderbolt II which is one of my favorite aircraft
07:03 Cheezmo major differences being that I could likely afford an Avanti in my lifetime :P
07:04 Druidic_Rifleman I am gonna try and get a CF18 donated to TGG ontario...
07:04 Cheezmo http://www.fly-corporate.com/dbaircraft/piaggio_p180_avanti_ii_a.jpg
07:04 * Cheezmo drools
07:05 Cheezmo CF18 would be a swell thing, but the innerds are generally classified, less you get a civi one
07:06 Cheezmo I got to fondle a CF-18 that landed here in Kelowna before the Abbotsford Air Show
07:06 Druidic_Rifleman It would out to that uppidy GR lab
07:06 Druidic_Rifleman would need a pilot or a pilots licence
07:07 Druidic_Rifleman the only military system i'd want really is the M61
07:07 Cheezmo You'd need a Fighter pilot, lol
07:07 Druidic_Rifleman :( take every thing
07:07 Druidic_Rifleman BUT the gun
07:07 Cheezmo I want a GAU-8
07:07 Druidic_Rifleman Same
07:07 Druidic_Rifleman i wonder why the army never tried tank mounting one...
07:07 Cheezmo The gun so awesome they strapped a plane to it
07:08 Druidic_Rifleman there would be room in an M60A3 turret
07:08 Druidic_Rifleman Specially if youexpended the rear
07:08 Cheezmo Fuck anyone that thinks it's a plane with a big gun... It's a big gun with wings <3
07:09 Cheezmo if I ever got drafter, I'd fly A-10s, or else just be a technician
07:09 Cheezmo drafted*
07:09 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=335GdTqtyLs
07:09 BotSteve Title: Dos Gringos - I Wish I Had A Gun Just Like The A-10 - YouTube
07:10 Druidic_Rifleman I'd mow em down like a weed eater with that 30 Millimeter!!!
07:12 Cheezmo :D
07:14 Druidic_Rifleman I could make it from my house tothe lab in less then hour
07:14 Druidic_Rifleman in that bird
07:14 Druidic_Rifleman Mike break a few windows....
07:14 Druidic_Rifleman might
07:14 Druidic_Rifleman 8 hour drive shortend to 30 minutes
07:14 Cheezmo haha, yeah
07:15 Druidic_Rifleman http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5EsK1cpiw
07:15 BotSteve Title: Gunz - YouTube
07:15 Druidic_Rifleman Good luck to the flying pigs intoronto to pull me over for speeding
07:16 Druidic_Rifleman 1800 Miles per hour YO!!! catch this porkie
07:16 Cheezmo :P
07:17 wannabe1987 lol
07:17 Druidic_Rifleman It's more invironmentally friendly because i spend less time travelling
07:17 Druidic_Rifleman and go in a near direct stright line
07:51 wannabe1987 going to sleep now so i can actually *sleep* night
07:52 hhrlisa_ night
08:07 Druidic_Rifleman sigh i wanna try kalishnikov vodka
08:08 hhrlisa_ and why can't you
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08:35 PacketHumper she probably can't sleep because she's thinking of me.  and that would keep anyone afraid of falling asleep. lol
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08:47 Druidic_Rifleman i told you lisa
08:52 hhrlisa told me what
09:03 Druidic_Rifleman why i can't get the vodka i want
09:04 hhrlisa i know.
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10:00 Ycarene Can a blown light bulb hold a charge?
10:01 epictang0 only if you lick it
10:01 Cprossu depends how it blew I suppose
10:02 Cprossu also what kind of bulb =P
10:14 Ycarene 100 watt incandescent that blew when the filament broke (through use)
10:16 Cprossu I suppose then the voltage would be determined by how far away the two contacts are on the bulb base or the metal wire in the tube, unless you remove it...
10:16 Cprossu the fill gas or air that leaked in will determine the breakdown point
10:16 Cprossu and surely
10:16 Cprossu there's not much in the way of 'plates' there
10:17 Cprossu so the capacitance would be rather dissapointing.
10:18 BitViper ohhhhhhhhhhh sweeeet. anyone seen the weather alert thats up for tomorow night ?
10:18 BotSteve bitviper: I have the following messages for you:
10:18 BotSteve At 06:41Z, Druidic_Rifleman asked me to tell bitviper http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/2/15/f2c70fb8-6100-4f4d-afe9-33c11117c0b0.Large.jpg we needsomething like this for the lab
10:18 BotSteve At 06:42Z, Druidic_Rifleman asked me to tell bitviper you think we coulddesign it
10:18 BitViper for michigan
10:18 Druidic_Rifleman no
10:19 Druidic_Rifleman we need a UAV program
10:21 BitViper Druidic_Rifleman : im only up for a couple minutes to take badly needed meds. will mark that for later. but a uav, or better yet a whole flight division of tgg, would be sweet
10:22 Druidic_Rifleman I think chris should advise me on the best way to sweet talke the RCAF into giving me a CF18
10:23 BitViper that uav is too small =p
10:23 BitViper i'll send you some links of more feasable solution later, remind me
10:25 BitViper ok ugys, regarding the aforementioned weather, forecast is for up to one quarter inch of ice for the grand rapids area tomorow night, and up to 6 inches of snow and sleet with it north of grand rapids (my area)
10:26 BitViper wednesday should be a fun day
10:26 BitViper anyway, im going back to bed for an hour or so, then gotta finish packing for the lab
10:26 BitViper bbl
10:26 Druidic_Rifleman it's the size of a Cesna
10:26 BitViper yeah i see that, no landing strip at the lab =P
10:27 BitViper bbl
10:27 Cprossu damn
10:27 Druidic_Rifleman We need one for work and a Refuler so we can do mid air refuling
10:27 Cprossu http://www.youtube.com/user/wbeaty
10:27 BotSteve Title: wbeaty's Channel - YouTube
10:27 Cprossu I want to go to sleep
10:27 Cprossu but his videos are neat
10:28 Ycarene Aren't most incandescents filled with argon?
10:29 Druidic_Rifleman Botsteve should i do some steampunk projects when i visit the lab
10:29 BotSteve Maybe
10:29 hhrlisa Botsteve should I do work or watch Tron?
10:29 BotSteve Absolutely
10:29 hhrlisa lol
10:30 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
10:30 Druidic_Rifleman watch tron then
10:31 hhrlisa thats what im doin
10:39 hhrlisa GAH damn tron... I need to make breakfast
10:44 Druidic_Rifleman the kids can cook for them selfs
10:44 Druidic_Rifleman whats the worst that could happen
10:52 masterofmonks .
10:52 Cprossu hey masterofmonks what's up?
10:53 masterofmonks Not a lot.
10:53 masterofmonks Leaving for work in aboug .25 hours.
10:53 masterofmonks about*
10:53 Cprossu ouch
10:54 Cprossu I'll be heading to the lab again in under a month
10:54 masterofmonks It's not so bad, I get off at 0300
10:54 masterofmonks ER 1500
10:54 Cprossu hell, it is 0300 lol
10:54 CaptainNiobe fail. :P
10:54 Druidic_Rifleman hey Cprossu
10:54 Cprossu *more like 0400
10:54 Cprossu hey Druidic_Rifleman
10:54 Cprossu catching some ZZ's in a bit though
10:54 Druidic_Rifleman Did yousee the UAV i think the lab needs?
10:55 Cprossu did you guess that I didn't care either way? heh
10:55 Druidic_Rifleman http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/2/15/f2c70fb8-6100-4f4d-afe9-33c11117c0b0.Large.jpg
10:55 Cprossu pffft
10:55 Cprossu outdated.
10:55 Druidic_Rifleman sigh your no fun
10:55 Cprossu (military stuff is always 20-50 years out of date.
10:55 Cprossu no exception here.
10:56 Cprossu well I gotta get some sleep
10:56 Cprossu I have a huge ass checklist to build
10:57 Cprossu come next morning
10:57 Cprossu at least this time I get to plan
10:57 Cprossu lates
11:06 Druidic_Rifleman "Model aircraft" means an aircraft, the total weight of which does not exceed 35 kg (77.2 pounds), that is mechanically driven or launched into flight for recreational purposes and that is not designed to carry persons or other living creatures.
11:06 Druidic_Rifleman Thats how UAV's legally differ from Model air craft in canada
11:07 Druidic_Rifleman if i build a UAV to spy on my hot neighbour is that considered a recreational purposes?
11:12 CaptainNiobe i would say it comes closer to invasion of privacy
11:13 hhrlisa hey rifleman i am at work.. at a hotel.. if i didn't make breakfast id have a lot of pissed of guests in 15 minutes lol
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11:21 yNos hello innernet!
11:21 HighMan|zZz Morning yNos
11:23 yNos hhrlisa: are you playing IRC at work!?!?
11:23 yNos Only slackers do that!
11:23 hhrlisa Always
11:23 * yNos toes the dirt
11:23 hhrlisa lol
11:23 hhrlisa I'm also watching tron legacy
11:23 yNos trade you jobs.
11:24 hhrlisa lol yeah you come work third shift doing shit work for 9 bucks an hour
11:24 yNos didnt say paychecks.. just jobs
11:24 hhrlisa lol
11:24 hhrlisa nope doesn't work that way
11:27 yNos sadface
11:29 hhrlisa believe me if you had my paycheck you'd really have a sad face
11:29 hhrlisa lol
11:29 hhrlisa Yo ynos i though i should let you know since its awesome.. Bill said hhr will be at tgg this week.. :D
11:31 yNos I sooo wanna be in on that.
11:31 yNos i hope by car shit is squared out by then :(
11:31 hhrlisa Well you have roughly 4 days to fix your shit
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11:42 Druidic_Rifleman ugh i wantedto ask ynos something
11:42 Druidic_Rifleman and i forgot it...
11:43 yNos that wasnt it, was it (cross post)
11:44 yNos time to refill my cup
11:47 BitViper oh no, hhr will be at the lab while i am ? oh noes
11:47 hhrlisa oh no?? oh yes!
11:47 yNos You are coming down this thurs?
11:48 BitViper yNos : im coming down in a few hours, hopefully for all week
11:49 yNos Nice
11:49 BitViper and zozo should be there today too
11:50 BitViper and (oh snap) cprossu is coming back next month
11:51 yNos hhrlisa: Can i come down and get breakfast there?
11:51 yNos i had a meeting there..
11:52 yNos once
11:52 yNos http://www.wzzm13.com/Weather/default.aspx
11:52 BotSteve Title: Grand Rapids, MI Weather Forecast, Radar, Video, Maps
11:52 yNos does this mean we ar eat our temp high right now?
11:53 hhrlisa lol yNos any morning you want to come down here between 6am and 7am i will let you have breakfast
11:53 yNos or another michigan wx forcaser gets foiled?
11:53 BitViper yNos : have you seen the forcast for tomorow night ?
11:53 yNos yeah
11:53 yNos fckthatshit
11:53 hhrlisa lol
11:54 BitViper hehehehe, hey you guys only get the ice, up here is supposed to get 6 inches of sleet and snow TOO
11:54 yNos When are you coming down?
11:55 yNos aiming for 9-10ish?
11:55 BitViper im heading out whenever i get showed and packed, why ?
11:55 BitViper showered
11:58 hhrlisa Alright hippies im going home. I may be back later who knows. woohoo!!!!
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12:06 HighMan adios
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12:18 yNos Hey man, hows it going?
12:19 tonsofpcs yawn
12:20 yNos that good, eh?
12:20 tonsofpcs win or lose, there is no try
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12:44 * Druidic_Rifleman thinks tgg needs a how to be a ninja video
12:46 yNos lol
12:46 yNos would be great
12:46 yNos just move the camera around randomly.
12:46 yNos with nothing in the shot but a moving wall..
12:47 yNos and someone commenting about how quick (s)he is.
12:48 BitViper with intersperced clips of the hall/room s/he is in, empty
12:48 tonsofpcs yNos: no, start with a shot of Omni in an empty room, camera on a tripod, then roll a minute or so of the room empty w/ batman doing his documentary accent, then a second of omni right at the camera, give omni a cookie "good ninja"
12:48 BitViper or perhaps a blur added in the right place
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13:06 yNos tonsofpcs: http://ascsignal.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/2010/12/3000.pdf
13:06 yNos damn
13:14 BitViper rotfl rotfl rotfl bahahahahahahah ok guys, i just made a ringtone that will drive chris nuts, link coming
13:15 BitViper (chris will kill me)
13:16 yNos BitViper checkout the above pdf.. 2-30 mhz omni with 8db on 6mhz.. damn.
13:16 yNos a huge - super special discone, but still, pretty cool.
13:17 BitViper interesting, looks like would be pain in the ass to build though
13:18 BitViper yeah looks like an inverted discone
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13:19 yNos pita or not.. omnidirectional 8db on 6 mhz.. i wonder what the 3.5mhz gain is.
13:19 yNos still better than a dipole..
13:20 BitViper ok, ringtone for chris ... http://bitviper.org/projects/tgg/robocat.mp3
13:21 yNos lol
13:21 yNos loop that and set it to his login sound.
13:21 BitViper hahahahahaha
13:21 BitViper ohhhhhhh, someone should get ahold of his phone and set that as default ringtone !
13:24 yNos while `true`; do if [ ! -r /home/USER/.gnome/robocat.mp3 ] ; then cd /home/USER/.gnome ; wget http://bitviper.org/projects/tgg/robocat.mp3 ; fi ; mpg123 /home/USER/.gnome/robocat.mp3 ; done
13:24 yNos background that on login...
13:24 yNos HAHAHA
13:24 yNos evil
13:25 BitViper *facedesk*
13:25 BitViper need to make one of lisa squeaking too
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13:40 Druidic_Rifleman LOL
13:40 Druidic_Rifleman the she squeek
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13:55 Zozo-Laptop yo
13:55 tonsofpcs yNos: are you sure that's not an april fools joke that someone took a picture of a spider web? :-p
13:55 BitViper tonsofpcs : lol, a bit early for that
13:56 tonsofpcs BitViper: it's a PDF from 2008...
13:56 BitViper so ?
13:56 Zozo-Laptop hey bit do you have a ride to the lab today?
13:56 BitViper Zozo-Laptop : g'morning. pm
13:57 * tonsofpcs doesn't have a ride to the lab today.
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14:01 hhrlisa I"M BAAAACK
14:08 Zozo-Laptop wb
14:08 BitViper hey hhrlisa, check out the ringtone i made
14:08 hhrlisa how?
14:08 BitViper ringtone for chris http://bitviper.org/projects/tgg/robocat.mp3
14:09 hhrlisa Nice
14:09 BitViper now need to make one of you squeeking
14:10 hhrlisa no
14:10 hhrlisa please no
14:10 BitViper muahahahahah :)
14:10 hhrlisa its bad enough im on the internet
14:10 BitViper =)
14:10 Zozo-Laptop lol
14:11 hhrlisa i hate seeing myself on tha video
14:11 BitViper awwww youre famous lisa
14:12 hhrlisa no no im not
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14:14 BitViper Zozo-Laptop when you heading for gr ? or perhaps more to the point, when you expecting to get there ?
14:15 Zozo-Laptop id head up there now if i had someplace to hang out till the lab opened
14:15 BitViper im heading out in about 30 mins, should get there about 1130 ish
14:15 BatSteve yo
14:16 Zozo-Laptop get where? the lab its self or your friends place?
14:16 Zozo-Laptop hey bat
14:16 BitViper Zozo-Laptop : lab
14:16 BitViper gr in general
14:17 Sgt_Lemming hmmm, 1TB a month limit, do I dare add another 109GB torrent...
14:17 Sgt_Lemming I only just finished the last two >100GB torrents
14:17 Zozo-Laptop wannabe needs to be here so she can tell me a good place to go while waiting lol
14:18 BitViper Zozo-Laptop : meet me at the lab around 1130 ?
14:19 Zozo-Laptop sure, more than likely ill be in the parking lot sitting there
14:19 BitViper ok, txt me when youre there, or vice versa
14:19 Zozo-Laptop roger that
14:20 hhrlisa any mcdonalds is a good place to wait
14:20 Zozo-Laptop that is true...
14:20 hhrlisa mmhmm
14:25 Sgt_Lemming http://www.batteryspace.com/polymerli-ioncell37v21ah1055275-2c777wh42arate-ulunapproved.aspx <--- I need 16 of these
14:25 BotSteve Title: Polymer Li-Ion Cell: 3.7V 21Ah (1055275-2C, 77.7Wh, 42A rate) - UL / UN Approved
14:25 Sgt_Lemming shame they are soo damned expensive
14:28 BitViper im out guys, final packing before heading out, cya at the lab
14:28 Sgt_Lemming fscker!
14:28 Zozo-Laptop see ya soon
14:29 Zozo-Laptop im also going to the lab today lem =)
14:29 Sgt_Lemming FSCKER!
14:29 Zozo-Laptop druid will be there in a week, and cpro will be here in a month
14:29 Sgt_Lemming at least another 5 or 6 months for me
14:30 Zozo-Laptop we are gathering at the lab for something i got in the works hehehehe
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14:35 wannabe1987 what?
14:35 Zozo-Laptop hey wannabe
14:36 wannabe1987 hi
14:36 Zozo-Laptop well i should say mornin
14:36 wannabe1987 so bitviper *is* coming?  he sent me a pm at 5 something sayin he wasn't....
14:36 Sgt_Lemming "<BitViper> im out guys, final packing before heading out, cya at the lab"
14:37 Zozo-Laptop he comming
14:37 Zozo-Laptop he's*
14:37 wannabe1987 yeah....i saw that.  interesting.   shall be a fun time!
14:37 Zozo-Laptop hopefully =)
14:38 wannabe1987 hopefully?
14:38 Zozo-Laptop yea im hoping my old boss dosent try to ruin my day
14:38 Sgt_Lemming ...?
14:39 wannabe1987 yeah....i hear you  :/
14:39 Zozo-Laptop long story lem, lets just say he was screwing me over i left now hes being spiteful
14:40 Zozo-Laptop wanting the phone i was given (and given is the correct term, was not a "here have this while you work for us") he even wants the business cards i paid for lol
14:40 Sgt_Lemming rofl
14:40 Zozo-Laptop and hes serious about it
14:41 Zozo-Laptop talking to lawyers and threatening lawsuits
14:41 Zozo-Laptop if he keeps it up ill have to leave a piece of paper at the lab by accident with som IPs on it
14:42 Zozo-Laptop but alas... i wont do that i guess im too nice
14:45 wannabe1987 :/
14:47 Zozo-Laptop afk
14:47 wannabe1987 kk
14:47 wannabe1987 hhrlisa: lol @ the george carlin quote
14:48 hhrlisa thats because i win :P
14:48 wannabe1987 winter storm watch tues pm?  wtf people
14:49 tonsofpcs Zozo-Laptop: there's a 7-11 just up one of the streets from the lab (north), or if you go west on Leonard, there's a chinese restaurant, then there's a subway and I think a small pizza place (not sure, I ate at subway once while I was there, other meals I drove to where all the fast food places hide)
14:49 wannabe1987 he's right
14:49 wannabe1987 or you could chill at meijer which is north on leonard
14:49 wannabe1987 i mean
14:49 wannabe1987 north on alpine
14:49 wannabe1987 sorry, just woke  up
14:49 tonsofpcs right, alpine is where all the fast food places are
14:58 Zozo-Laptop hmmm sounds good
14:58 Zozo-Laptop and i just got confirmation that axelos will be joining us tomorrow
14:59 tonsofpcs having grown up with a 7-11 down the street from my high school, I'm all about chilling and eating taquitos for an hour or two :-p
14:59 tonsofpcs we have no 7-11s here :(
14:59 tonsofpcs or wawas :(
14:59 Zozo-Laptop start one?
14:59 tonsofpcs or sheetz :(
15:00 tonsofpcs they don't have franchises available here.
15:00 tonsofpcs I mean, I suppose someone could request one anyway
15:01 Zozo-Laptop ive realized something from living with that "family" for 6 months, if you want something find a way of making it happen yourself
15:01 Zozo-Laptop cause in the long run the only person you can fully count on is yourself
15:02 Zozo-Laptop advice from an old man
15:03 tonsofpcs sheetz doesn't offer franchises
15:03 Sgt_Lemming http://vimeo.com/37021089
15:03 BotSteve Title: Pendulum Video (fast shutter speed) on Vimeo
15:04 tonsofpcs Wawa won't open here.  (Requirement: Minimum Traffic Count of at least 25,000 vehicles per day having access to site)
15:05 Zozo-Laptop never even heard of wawa
15:05 tonsofpcs they're south jersey/PA/DE/MD and apparently VA
15:05 tonsofpcs they have awesome teas.
15:05 Zozo-Laptop ah
15:06 tonsofpcs they apparently wholesale them though... hmmm...
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15:10 wannabe1987 its smoking
15:10 wannabe1987 i think i killed it :/
15:10 Sgt_Lemming ...?
15:10 wannabe1987 my hand held mixer
15:11 Sgt_Lemming heh
15:11 wannabe1987 smells bad bro
15:11 Sgt_Lemming well done
15:11 Zozo-Laptop yup that mixer is well done
15:12 wannabe1987 thzks....it was almost mixed too....
15:12 wannabe1987 o well arm work!
15:13 Zozo-Laptop cookies?
15:13 wannabe1987 and sheetz is pretty good.  been to them in WV
15:13 wannabe1987 yessir
15:14 Zozo-Laptop what kind?
15:14 wannabe1987 see if i made them last night i'd've eaten most
15:14 wannabe1987 chocolate
15:14 Zozo-Laptop ooo
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15:17 wannabe1987 zozo do you know what time bitviper was planning on being to the lab-area?
15:18 hhrlisa im gonna go lay on my couch
15:18 hhrlisa BYE
15:18 wannabe1987 bye
15:18 Zozo-Laptop we plan on meeting at about 1130
15:19 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: 11:30
15:19 wannabe1987 so you leaving shortly or are yo in gr already?
15:19 tonsofpcs also, no quickcheks here...
15:20 Zozo-Laptop ill be leaving real soon
15:20 Zozo-Laptop and kzoo is about 45 mins away so its not too bad
15:20 wannabe1987 yep....i know....lived there :)
15:20 wannabe1987 all ya gotta do is go north!
15:20 wannabe1987 then i'm gonna plan on getting there around that time too....:)
15:20 Zozo-Laptop cool
15:21 Zozo-Laptop if you see a red pt cruiser with crap on top of it you kn ow who it is
15:21 wannabe1987 mhm and he drives a dodge. and i drive a ford
15:25 tonsofpcs I might be able to convince quick chek to at least look at the area...
15:26 Zozo-Laptop you could start up a franchise
15:28 tonsofpcs Zozo-Laptop: that's very hard to do for businesses that are 100% owned and operated some of which have a firm stance on "no, we won't let you franchise"
15:29 tonsofpcs of the four I mentioned, only 7-11 offers franchises and they're very picky about who they offer them to.
15:29 wannabe1987 how do they expect to grow then?
15:30 Zozo-Laptop well im out
15:30 Zozo-Laptop im gonna start driving
15:30 Zozo-Laptop later
15:30 wannabe1987 see ya in a bit.  take care, drive safe
15:30 tonsofpcs they may not need to grow although many of them have 'real estate' offices who will pursue acquisitions.  Also, It's not like I'm in an area that borders any of the areas they serve.  The nearest QuickChek is 2 hours, nearest Sheetz is about an hour and a half, nearest wawa is about 5 hours...
15:30 wannabe1987 what is wawa?
15:30 tonsofpcs it's like 7-11 only awesomer.
15:30 wannabe1987 i don't frequent 7-11
15:31 wannabe1987 nor do i like slurpees
15:31 tonsofpcs they don't have slurpees
15:31 tonsofpcs they have awesome iced teas in pint-sized containers
15:31 wannabe1987 https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/420930_331077663611912_244753448911001_944293_1118002896_n.jpg
15:31 wannabe1987 it comes in pints?!
15:32 tonsofpcs Nearest 7-11 is ... well, there's one in a university of some kind about an hour away, then there's apparently one about 1:30 west... hmmm....
15:32 tonsofpcs pints and half-pints
15:32 tonsofpcs aside: i don't know why everyone's all over calling "cups" "half-pints" these days...
15:33 tonsofpcs http://www.wawa.com/WawaWeb/Drinks.aspx
15:33 BotSteve Title: Wawa - Coffee & Beverages - Drinks
15:33 wannabe1987 i wouldn't know, but i like the LOTR quote :D
15:33 tonsofpcs but yea, they're a convenience store, sometimes with gas sometimes without
15:33 wannabe1987 isee
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15:34 tonsofpcs just like 7-11
15:35 tonsofpcs some of them have a sandwich shop inside.
15:35 tonsofpcs kinda like quickchek
15:35 wannabe1987 tonsofpcs: you can't get here in the next month?
15:35 wannabe1987 whats quickchek?
15:35 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: hmm? why?
15:35 wannabe1987 cpro is coming....
15:36 wannabe1987 we could have fun
15:36 tonsofpcs they're like a 7-11 only they always have a sandwich shop of some kind
15:36 wannabe1987 sounds like a check cashing place :P
15:36 tonsofpcs i guess they're more like a sheetz
15:36 tonsofpcs they have those touch-screen order systems like sheetz now
15:36 wannabe1987 the one sheetz i've been in (parsons WV) had a sandwhich counter
15:36 wannabe1987 it was years ago, tho, so i don't remember much
15:37 tonsofpcs I don't know that any sheetz don't have a sammich counter
15:37 wannabe1987 well that works
15:37 tonsofpcs next month... hmm...
15:37 wannabe1987 he's arriving the 22nd at like midnight
15:37 wannabe1987 of march
15:37 tonsofpcs I'm just back at work after a half week off (hopefully) at that time, so probably not gonna happen
15:38 tonsofpcs April includes Passover/Easter and perhaps a trip to Vegas...
15:43 wannabe1987 vegas?
15:43 wannabe1987 sorry had to run off, cookies!
15:45 wannabe1987 so what do i do with my dead mixer?
15:46 wannabe1987 mmm yummy cookies
15:51 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i offer to buy cheap chinese for bit and zozo?
15:51 BotSteve No way
15:51 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i offer to buy cheap chinese for bit and zozo?
15:51 BotSteve Absolutely
15:51 wannabe1987 ok
15:51 wannabe1987 now that theres money in the bank....:P
15:51 wannabe1987 shit i still owe drew....hmmm
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15:55 wannabe1987 trevor!  any chance you'd ever come out this way?
15:55 wannabe1987 and tonsofpcs, why are you going to vegas?
15:56 tlockley I would love to but i am unsure of what my spring break plans are
15:56 wannabe1987 ahhhh
15:56 tlockley if they are free i am going to try and take a train, or if i can get a good rate fly
15:56 wannabe1987 whens your spring break?
15:57 tlockley march 16-26
15:57 tlockley i may go by train so i can bring a bicycle
15:57 wannabe1987 that will work perfectly!  you can meet cpro then :D
15:57 tlockley is he gonna be around for that?
15:58 wannabe1987 he flies in 22nd/23rd
15:58 tlockley cool
15:58 wannabe1987 bicycles are good
15:58 tlockley though this is all wild speculation on my part
15:58 tlockley and partially dependent on how school goes up to then
15:58 tonsofpcs wannabe1987: I don't know if I'm going to Vegas, but if I am, umm.... http://www.nabshow.com/2012/default.asp
15:59 wannabe1987 yeah
15:59 BotSteve Title: 2012 NAB Show: Digital Media Industry Event for Video, Audio, Film & Communications Professionals.
15:59 tonsofpcs April 10ish to 20ish
15:59 wannabe1987 ahhhhh ok.  so its not to spend your life savings.  k
15:59 wannabe1987 cuz i was gonna say ocming to the lab would be better then
15:59 tonsofpcs no, I usually 'gamble' a few hours on one of the slot machines (I throw 5 or 10 bucks in and play til it's gone, I figure a few hours of entertainment is worth $5)
15:59 tlockley i would love to go to all the big tradeshows once
16:00 tonsofpcs tlockley: you might be eligible for a BEA scholarship...
16:00 tlockley BEA?
16:00 tonsofpcs http://www.beaweb.org/
16:00 BotSteve Title: Broadcast Education Association - Educating for tomorrow's media
16:00 tonsofpcs not sure if they still do scholarships for 'student' NAB travels, they used to
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16:01 tlockley thanks tonsofpcs
16:01 tonsofpcs show passes for NAB are easy to get, it's travel and hotel that cost.
16:01 tonsofpcs (and conference passes if you want to sit in seminars)
16:01 wannabe1987 mhm
16:02 tlockley on a wholy un-related note, what are your thoughs on the lightsquared/gps/fcc tussle?
16:02 tonsofpcs I've been to NAB 3 times.  2004, 2009, 2010.
16:02 tonsofpcs tlockley: NTIA wins.
16:02 tonsofpcs NTIA always wins.
16:02 tlockley true
16:02 tonsofpcs "The guys in charge of all of our guns say it aint gonna happen".  Lightsquared will argue it of course, but they won't win.
16:03 tlockley true, i knda question the merrit of their agument about gps being lazy about dealing with interfearence
16:03 tlockley i know i spelled that wrong
16:04 tlockley for what its worth this is what i have read most recently on the argument… http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2012/02/why-lightsquared-failed.ars
16:04 BotSteve Title: Why LightSquared failed: It was science, not politics
16:05 Druidic_Rifleman is Mom still around
16:05 Druidic_Rifleman ???
16:05 wannabe1987 master0fmonks  not really
16:05 wannabe1987 why
16:05 wannabe1987 you could always tell CaptainNiobe
16:05 Druidic_Rifleman Could
16:05 egrsteve monring
16:05 Druidic_Rifleman hey steve
16:06 CaptainNiobe he's at work atm, but i can pass on a message
16:06 egrsteve hello Druidic_Rifleman
16:06 Druidic_Rifleman Hey steve
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16:06 Druidic_Rifleman I have a metalwork/welding/smithing thing i am posting
16:07 Druidic_Rifleman A cad of a tang thining jih
16:07 Druidic_Rifleman jig
16:07 mashpriborintorg hiya
16:07 BotSteve mashpriborintorg: I have the following messages for you:
16:07 BotSteve At 26 Feb 21:34Z, roadran422 asked me to tell mashpriborintorg that you can sing the alphabet backwards with that song.
16:07 CaptainNiobe ok, i'll pass it on, lemme know when/if you have a link up :)
16:08 wannabe1987 see?  she's pretty freaking awesome :D
16:08 tlockley morning steve
16:09 wannabe1987 hi steve
16:09 wannabe1987 hi niobe :D :hugs:
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16:09 wannabe1987 and sparky!
16:09 SparkyProjects :)
16:09 wannabe1987 my landlords wife doesn't know who adele is.....
16:09 wannabe1987 and its playing on her computer....
16:10 tlockley derp
16:10 CaptainNiobe heya, wannabe *hugs back* g'day, pj :D
16:10 wannabe1987 hows stralia?
16:11 CaptainNiobe dark :P 'merica?
16:11 wannabe1987 snowy in places
16:11 wannabe1987 we're supposed to get ice storm this week :/
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16:11 CaptainNiobe O.O
16:12 wannabe1987 same day they told us *last week* it'd be 50....
16:12 wannabe1987 i'm confused
16:12 * CaptainNiobe is grateful we don't get ice storms in brisbane
16:12 wannabe1987 hi ajt!
16:12 wannabe1987 oooo a quarter!
16:12 wannabe1987 i tithed all mine....
16:13 wannabe1987 gah.
16:13 wannabe1987 why doth 10 minutes take so long?
16:13 wannabe1987 :blink blink:
16:14 wannabe1987 altho later i'll want time to go more slowly i'm sure....
16:14 CaptainNiobe it doesn't? :D
16:14 wannabe1987 when you're waiting for cookies to get done so you can leave it does
16:14 egrsteve yay ice storm
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16:15 egrsteve .in 1 min remind wannabe cookies aren't done yet
16:15 BotSteve egrsteve: Okay, will remind at 16:16Z
16:16 wannabe1987 Druidic_Rifleman, Mom_phone is here
16:16 Cprossu hey egrsteve you around?
16:16 BotSteve egrsteve: remind wannabe cookies aren't done yet
16:16 wannabe1987 ooo a quarter inch of ice!
16:16 wannabe1987 .in 3 min cookies
16:16 BotSteve wannabe1987: Okay, will remind at 16:19Z
16:16 wannabe1987 "snow sleet freezing rain and rain"
16:16 wannabe1987 blecch
16:16 Druidic_Rifleman hey mom_phone have i shown you my blackmsithing album
16:17 egrsteve yay, my friday 8am class is cancled
16:17 Cprossu just want to give you a heads up, I bought a ticket to grand rapids, I get there March 22nd.
16:17 Mom_phone Nein.
16:18 Cprossu ( egrsteve granted that'll be 'barely the 22'nd' because the plane is supposed to arrive like 11:56PM)
16:18 wannabe1987 lol
16:18 * wannabe1987 volunteers yo get you
16:18 wannabe1987 to*
16:18 Mom_phone .just pm it to my main nick.
16:18 Cprossu woo!
16:18 wannabe1987 typing and walking doesn't work on a netbook
16:18 wannabe1987 Mom_phone, its master0fmonks
16:19 Cprossu it does until you bump into something
16:19 wannabe1987 it kinda pinged
16:19 wannabe1987 lol
16:19 wannabe1987 BotSteve: should i bring sarah to the lab too or not?
16:19 BotSteve Maybe
16:19 BotSteve wannabe1987: cookies
16:19 wannabe1987 thanks i'll take that as a no
16:19 Mom_phone Still works.
16:20 Mom_phone It all fits to the same place.
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16:20 wannabe1987 BotSteve: tell lee to stuff it
16:20 BotSteve wannabe1987: I'll pass that on when lee is around.
16:20 wannabe1987 lol
16:20 wannabe1987 lets see if that works.
16:20 wannabe1987 oopse
16:21 Mom_phone Have fun time to go.
16:21 wannabe1987 loll
16:21 LeePod Hi :/
16:21 wannabe1987 he just logged in as i said that :/
16:21 wannabe1987 sorry
16:21 wannabe1987 apparently it doesn't know you as lee
16:21 wannabe1987 so thats good
16:21 LeePod Stuff what?
16:21 wannabe1987 (just got a txt)
16:21 ajt yo!
16:21 ajt wannabe1987: what's good?
16:21 wannabe1987 my cookies
16:22 wannabe1987 should i get boden a kit kat bar?
16:22 wannabe1987 eeeeee why is gas so much?!
16:23 wannabe1987 ok
16:23 Cprossu I think we should get kit kat to make a duck shaped kit kat bar
16:23 Cprossu oooh
16:23 Cprossu wannabe1987: peeps?!
16:24 egrsteve so everyone should send peeps in the viewer mail
16:25 Cprossu I will be basically broke by the time I pay the bills I need to pay though.
16:25 Cprossu oh egrsteve I do need some advice
16:25 Cprossu what banks are nearby?
16:26 egrsteve maybe us local members can buy a couple packs and drop them at the lab
16:26 egrsteve in GR?
16:26 Cprossu I need to can my wells fargo since they don't have any branches
16:26 Cprossu yeah
16:26 Cprossu egrsteve I plan on staying until June 20-somethingth.
16:26 egrsteve Chase, 5th/3rd, hudinton
16:26 Cprossu shit.
16:27 Cprossu no 5th/3rd in AZ, Chase charges like $12/month in fees for their checking.
16:27 egrsteve some regional banks
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16:27 egrsteve they do? not on my account
16:27 electricguy hi everyone
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16:27 Cprossu I don't have a job, so no direct deposit
16:28 wannabe1987 ahhh
16:28 wannabe1987 theres plenty of credit unions too
16:28 wannabe1987 but i have to go now
16:28 wannabe1987 bye!
16:28 wannabe1987 cookies are finally done!!!!
16:28 wannabe1987 ....
16:28 wannabe1987 fine.  i won't respond lee!
16:29 Cprossu https://www.chase.com/online/Checking/total-checking.htm
16:29 BotSteve Title: Chase Total Checking | Best Checking Account with Free ATM and Free Debit Card
16:29 egrsteve I see
16:29 Cprossu yeah. I really don't know a good way around this
16:29 egrsteve I have enough in my account/linked accounts it's not an issue
16:30 Cprossu I've run into some bad time so I basically am broke
16:30 electricguy i'm seriously thinking of installing a hardware reset button on my ipod mini...
16:30 Cprossu haha electricguy
16:30 electricguy when the battery goes really low it wont start again without a hardware reset
16:31 electricguy IE. pulling the battery connector
16:31 Cprossu wow, the button dance doesn't work on that model?
16:31 electricguy button dance?
16:31 egrsteve then I don't know what to tell you, most banks like money in the account
16:31 electricguy well.. it's running RockBox.. so i don't think so
16:31 egrsteve hold menu and center to reset
16:31 Cprossu yeah I know heh
16:32 Cprossu if I had the 5k to spare though it'd be a different story
16:32 egrsteve try it, it might still reboot it
16:32 egrsteve only need 1500 to spare :)
16:32 electricguy LOL! thx for letting me know lads! it worked!
16:32 Cprossu well I have $535 =(
16:32 egrsteve not quite ebough
16:32 egrsteve *enough
16:32 electricguy and... it shows the battery as full! -,-
16:32 ajt Cprossu: I think I opened my checking account w/ chase for free and like $100 deposit
16:32 ajt Cprossu: but you have to have a good credit
16:33 Cprossu good credit I got
16:33 Cprossu oddly enough
16:33 ajt Go talk to Chase and see what they can do. They've always been extremely helpful for me
16:33 egrsteve you might be best to visit one and see what they are willing to give you
16:33 Cprossu they got bank of america's up there?
16:34 ajt yep
16:34 electricguy thx Cprossu and egrsteve! this will save me a lot of time and effort. And wont wear out the ipod.
16:34 Cprossu uh... glad to help?
16:34 * egrsteve has a 1st gen mini
16:34 * tlockley had broken all my ipods… zune for life
16:35 * electricguy found his gen. 2 in a dumpster
16:35 Cprossu ^ and it didn't even have one of the exploding batteries!
16:35 electricguy mine got a 8GB CF card and runs rockbox instead. it's LIGHTYEARS better than original
16:35 egrsteve I imagine, battery life must be better too
16:35 electricguy yes
16:35 electricguy about 3 times better batterytime
16:35 egrsteve nice
16:36 electricguy only by installing rockbox instead
16:36 electricguy changing to a CF card made it even better
16:36 egrsteve I imagine so HD to flash should save some battery
16:36 electricguy rockbox is a liiittle bit slower, but it's incredible how much better it uses the hardware
16:37 electricguy like, in original (at least on gen.2) the EQ makes the DAC overdrive like crazy. in rockbox it sound really damn good and wont overdrive
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16:45 electricguy hi hi hhrlisa :)
16:45 hhrlisa sup
16:47 electricguy :) downloading some music :)
16:47 electricguy and you?
16:47 hhrlisa about to call my boss and probably get bitched at
16:47 electricguy squeaking around? :P
16:47 electricguy ahh oki
16:48 hhrlisa brb
16:48 electricguy mkay
16:49 egrsteve anything new around here?
16:50 angy .cookie egrsteve
16:50 BotSteve Here you go, egrsteve, I baked you a chocolate chip cookie!
16:51 mashpriborintorg well, I would like to start with Arduino...
16:51 electricguy o it! :)
16:52 electricguy even i, who's not really a huge fan of µC's think it's fun.. :P
16:52 mashpriborintorg is the Uno one ok for a newbie ?
16:52 electricguy i got 2 arduinos even.. xD
16:52 electricguy yes
16:52 electricguy i got a UNO R2 and a UNO R3
16:52 mashpriborintorg I'd like to do a lolshield
16:52 electricguy it's great for starters
16:52 electricguy oh ok :P
16:52 electricguy i was looking at that yersterday.. XD
16:53 electricguy considering buying a LoL shield.. :)
16:53 mashpriborintorg all the stuff is pretty cheap
16:53 electricguy yeah it is
16:53 electricguy i have found a very nice shield combo for prototyping! :)give me a sec to get links for the shields
16:54 JA12 just buy one from the reliable source
16:54 JA12 it's open hw but someone still manages to produce clones that doesn't work
16:54 mashpriborintorg ebay is the easier for me
16:55 electricguy i got this shield in the bottom http://www.sparkfun.com/products/9729  And then this shield on to of that  http://www.dealextreme.com/p/arduino-prototype-shield-with-mini-breadboard-65273
16:55 BotSteve Title: Arduino Prototype Shield with Mini Breadboard - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
16:55 electricguy it's _AWESOME_ for prototyping
16:55 electricguy i bet you can buy a breadboard shield from sparkfun too
16:56 tonsofpcs oy vey
16:56 electricguy a pair of half crappy macro pics of my arduino  http://i.imgur.com/hnVWs.jpg   http://i.imgur.com/iskBx.jpg
16:56 tonsofpcs I have a roll of prototype shield behind my desk here.
16:56 mashpriborintorg there are tutorials everywhere on line, good
16:56 electricguy yeah
16:57 electricguy it's just copy/paste code if you want. and then learn how the code is built up and works
16:57 tonsofpcs http://www.reynoldskitchens.com/product.asp?cat_id=1337&amp;prod_id=4025 << Prototype shield.
16:57 BotSteve Title: Reynolds Products
16:57 hhrlisa well that went as expected
16:59 electricguy i need to find some good music to download..
16:59 tonsofpcs electricguy: spotify.
17:00 tonsofpcs also, what kind of music?
17:00 JA12 http://www.microcodes.info/once-again-selling-arduino-on-ebay-3116.html
17:00 BotSteve Title: Once again, selling “Arduino” on ebay | Microcontroller Forum Tracker
17:00 electricguy nah. i have gotten tired of spotify due to limited listening time and heaploads of commercials..
17:00 JA12 http://www.adafruit.com/blog/2011/02/04/counterfeit-teensy-usb-boards-not-open-source-cloned-any-way/
17:00 electricguy plus, i can't run spotify on my ipod
17:00 BotSteve Title: Counterfeit Teensy USB Boards – not open source, “cloned” any way… « adafruit industries blog
17:00 tonsofpcs limited listening time?
17:00 electricguy yes
17:00 Seroster I'm really really bored. Beware.
17:00 electricguy i don't have premium
17:01 JA12 http://arduino.cc/blog/2010/07/06/how-to-recognize-official-arduino-boards/
17:01 BotSteve Title: Arduino Blog » Blog Archive » How to recognize official Arduino boards.
17:01 tonsofpcs I didn't have limited listening time before I had premium...
17:01 electricguy as i don't feel like paying for music i can download, being played in a shitty player
17:01 electricguy i didn't have either, until they added the limiting function..
17:02 electricguy and, i can only listen to one track 5 times...
17:02 tonsofpcs interesting.
17:02 electricguy each month
17:02 tonsofpcs oo, premium apparently now includes performance rights *clicks for more info*
17:02 tonsofpcs oh, nevermind, it doesn't
17:03 mashpriborintorg the duemilanove version is more expendable, true ?
17:03 tonsofpcs anyway, what kind of music?
17:03 electricguy no
17:03 electricguy mash, the duemilanove is an older version of UNO
17:03 electricguy the UNO got a real FTDI chip
17:04 JA12 uno doesn't have a ftdi chip
17:05 electricguy ehm..
17:05 mashpriborintorg ah, ok, and is the size always the same for stacking boards onto it ?
17:05 electricguy that's how i understood it.. but ok
17:05 electricguy mash, yes
17:05 electricguy UNO shields are stackable on the MEGA too
17:06 mashpriborintorg so no worries about compatibility issues
17:06 JA12 it has atmega16u2 instead
17:06 JA12 http://arduino.cc/en/uploads/Main/ArduinoUno_R3_Front.jpg
17:06 electricguy but how comes that arduino compatible boards use a FTDI cable to program it via USB while the real arduino got it on board? shouldn't it be the same thing?
17:06 egrsteve yes, do worry about mega compatibility
17:06 electricguy yeah
17:06 egrsteve the serial devices are not in the same location
17:07 mashpriborintorg I will not need the mega for a start...
17:07 egrsteve the older arduino design used a FTDI chip
17:07 electricguy hell no :P
17:07 electricguy ahh oki
17:07 mashpriborintorg doing a blinken led will be an accomplishment :p
17:08 electricguy :P
17:08 electricguy a arduino based thing i have built http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW2qTKTk0nw
17:08 BotSteve Title: Photoduino - YouTube
17:09 electricguy and a thermometer using the liquidcrystal library http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxYZlL2lei8
17:09 BotSteve Title: Arduino Thermometer 2x16 LCD - YouTube
17:09 electricguy and a test where the arduino takes a analog value from a pot and turns it into serial data http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYgIOuiRVWE
17:09 BotSteve Title: Serial link from arduino to DOS terminal with the portable lab console - YouTube
17:09 electricguy a laptop is used to read the data from the UART on the arduino
17:10 mashpriborintorg the pssoiblities of this thing are incredibler
17:10 electricguy yeah
17:10 electricguy you can do LOT'S of stuff with it
17:11 mashpriborintorg 18 euros from HK free shipping or 25 euors for UK + 10 for shipping :/
17:13 electricguy fun fact, DX sell some arduino stuff too
17:13 electricguy including arduinos
17:13 egrsteve are they authentic arduinos?
17:14 electricguy the look like it
17:14 electricguy but even if they are not, they should work just as good as it's all open source, so they can use the same bootloader and everything
17:14 egrsteve that is tue
17:14 electricguy they cost about the same as usual too
17:15 egrsteve I have an arduino clone as well
17:15 JA12 http://shop.snootlab.com/6-arduino
17:15 BotSteve Title: arduino
17:15 electricguy ok, this one is not a genuine one http://www.dealextreme.com/p/arduino-mega-avr-atmega1280-16au-usb-board-5v-82383
17:15 JA12 http://www.zartronic.fr/arduino-co-arduino-made-in-italie-c-6_1.html
17:15 egrsteve well clone in function not circuit
17:15 BotSteve Title: Arduino Mega AVR ATmega1280-16Au USB Board (5V) - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
17:15 BotSteve Title: Arduino Made in Italie : , Zartronic : Votre source Arduino en France
17:15 electricguy but it should work like any other non genuine arduino board
17:15 mashpriborintorg sure, open with open source stuff, you will find genuine, copy, clone, an fake :p
17:16 mashpriborintorg the uno is sold out on that link
17:16 JA12 http://arduino.cc/en/Main/Buy
17:16 BotSteve Title: Arduino - Buy
17:17 electricguy this is something everyone need! http://www.dealextreme.com/p/non-working-fake-dummy-ipad-2-sample-display-model-black-silver-71176
17:17 BotSteve Title: Non-Working Fake Dummy iPad 2 Sample Display Model - Black + Silver - Free Shipping - DealExtreme
17:17 electricguy a dummy ipad..
17:17 JA12 counterfeit products have nothing to do with open source
17:17 egrsteve here is the one I have http://www.ruggedcircuits.com/html/ruggeduino.html
17:17 BotSteve Title: The Ruggeduino
17:17 JA12 genuine, copy and clone is ok and intented
17:17 JA12 as long you don't use arduino name
17:17 JA12 only arduino uses arduino
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17:18 egrsteve that is true, so the DX arduino mega link is a "counterfit" one
17:19 egrsteve you can call it arduino compatable just not an arduino
17:19 Electricguy yeah
17:19 Electricguy like the diavolino
17:20 Electricguy it's pretty cool though
17:20 Electricguy but you need a external FTDI adapter for it
17:20 Electricguy it's very cheap though
17:20 Electricguy the beaglebone is damn cool too
17:21 Electricguy http://beagleboard.org/bone
17:21 BotSteve Title: BeagleBoard.org - bone
17:22 Electricguy not really arduino compatible. but almost
17:24 Electricguy sigh.. all australian hardcore torrents i find are dead :/
17:24 Electricguy too unknown genre to be popular
17:25 Electricguy really popular in aussie night clubs and such though
17:49 mashpriborintorg done... ordered an Arduino uno and a breadboard
17:50 mashpriborintorg I've got plenty of leds and 7 segment displays to play with, and even maybe a 2*16 lcd somewhere
17:50 Electricguy nice! :)
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17:53 Electricguy i like the idea with libraries
17:53 Electricguy i have made a liquidcrystal compatible LCD shield
17:53 Electricguy a 2x16 LCD
17:55 mashpriborintorg I've got one salvaged from a old HP laserjet, and it seems very similar to the ones they sell for arduinos
17:55 Electricguy ahh nice
17:55 Seroster Unattended bag! UNATTENDED BAG!!
17:55 Electricguy does it have 14 or 16 pins?
17:56 mashpriborintorg can't tell for now, it's buried in a cardboard box remotely stored :p
17:56 Electricguy lol okey :P
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17:56 Electricguy if it's a HD44780 LCD it's compatible with the liquidcrystal library
17:57 Napstar Hello all
17:57 Electricguy if it got 14 pins it got no backlight, or the backlight connected separately. if it got 16 pins it got the backlight in the connection strip too
17:57 Electricguy hi hi napstar
17:58 Napstar I have a question about the geek group but I don't want to interrupt if you're in the middle of something
17:58 Napstar looks like someone's LCD hunting
17:58 Electricguy ok, shoot! :)
17:58 Electricguy not really into something atm :)
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17:59 Napstar How does one check out the Geek Group as a visitor? I live in Saint Joseph, and I'd like to figure out where to go etc if I drive up there to see it
17:59 Electricguy you can find the address on the website. www.thegeekgroup.org
17:59 Napstar so just stop by?
17:59 Electricguy i believe so
17:59 Napstar are there always people around?
18:00 Electricguy i'm in sweden myself. so i'm not 100% sure
18:00 Napstar ah
18:00 Electricguy ask egrsteve perhaps
18:00 egrsteve the lab is open noon to 7 weekdays ans saturday
18:00 matt___ hello i came on here to ask a question i just moved house and i found a  3l glass botle of mercury in my basement i dont want my kids to smash it .etc does anybody know how to dispose of it and how much will it cost to do so thanks i realy have no idea
18:00 Napstar I'm about 1.5 or 2 hours away, and I'm thinking about taking tomorrow off and driving up there to check it out
18:01 egrsteve matt, where are you?
18:01 matt___ us
18:01 egrsteve state?
18:01 mashpriborintorg Chris would love to have this mercury I bet
18:01 Electricguy recycling stations use to be able to dispose mercury
18:01 matt___ michigen
18:01 Electricguy donate to to tGG! ;)
18:01 egrsteve the problem is 3L of murcury weights upwards of 150+ lbs
18:02 Electricguy yeah
18:02 egrsteve and you can't ship it
18:02 egrsteve DOT issues
18:02 mashpriborintorg spread in smaller containers
18:02 matt___ i know i am to scared to lift in case i smash it and it goes all over me
18:02 Electricguy put it in a box with LOTS of foam rubber around it and drive it to TGG :)
18:02 egrsteve as a liquid it isn't too dangerious, as a vapor (heated) it becomes a problem fast
18:02 matt___ what would they use mercury for? i
18:03 Electricguy wrap it in LOTS of duct tape before trying to lift it perhaps
18:03 egrsteve it would make a cool demo to have a comtainment box with mercury and gloves in it
18:03 mashpriborintorg making all kind of stuff as contactors
18:03 Electricguy yeah
18:04 Electricguy it's really cool that you can drop a big steel ball into mercury and it floats
18:04 egrsteve a box to handle it in and float stuf on it would be cool
18:04 mashpriborintorg I have some mercury switches... somewhere....
18:04 matt___ i cracked it open and put a steel ball on it and it floated with gloves and a mask on of corse i think i might drive to tgg to donate it
18:04 egrsteve ok, let chris know it's coming
18:04 Electricguy yeah
18:04 Electricguy a 3L mercury surprise might be a bit bad
18:05 matt___ i dont think mercury is worth anything in scrap metal value so its prietty much useles to me
18:05 Electricguy a prepared storage device for the bottle would be good
18:05 mashpriborintorg some wooden crate around it
18:05 Electricguy yeah
18:05 egrsteve a foam lined crate
18:05 Electricguy and lots of padding around it
18:05 egrsteve with heavy plastic
18:06 matt___ i want to poor it in to plastic bottle because glass is to fragile is that safe
18:06 egrsteve no
18:06 matt___ to do that
18:06 egrsteve leave it in glass
18:06 egrsteve in this case glass is safer
18:07 Electricguy one more cool thing is to put some mercury on aluminum
18:07 egrsteve a glass bottle is incredibly strong
18:07 egrsteve what type of bottle is it
18:07 Electricguy take a picture of it ;)
18:07 matt___ a big glass one with hg writen on the side
18:07 egrsteve and how full, you said 3l but is it full?
18:07 Electricguy is it a lab bottle?
18:08 matt___ yep it has got markings on the side and it is just above 3L
18:08 Electricguy oki
18:08 Electricguy if it's a real lab bottle it should be pretty tough
18:08 egrsteve .wa mass 3l Hg
18:08 BotSteve convert 3 L of mercury  (chemical element) to mass;40600 grams;40.6 kg  (kilograms);89.5 lb  (pounds);mass;Weight w of a body from w = mg:, ->90 lbf  (pounds-force), ->2.8 slugf  (slugs-force), ->398 N  (newtons), ->3.982&times;10^7 dynes, ->40602 ponds;Volume V of water from m = rhoV:, ->11 gallons, ->86 pints, ->41 L  (liters), ->0.041 m^3  (cubic meters), ->(assuming water density ~~ 1000 kg\/m^3)
18:08 Electricguy oof, that's pretty heavy!
18:08 egrsteve about 90lb, not as bad as I though
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18:08 Electricguy wb Lisa
18:09 Electricguy :)
18:09 matt___ something similer to this http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=big+lab+bottle&amp;um=1&amp;hl=en&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;sa=N&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;biw=1440&amp;bih=774&amp;tbm=isch&amp;tbnid=ocGKPpodkzwj3M:&amp;imgrefurl=http://westcoastcrafty.wordpress.com/category/recycled-crafty/&amp;docid=0KTIq14oHA1bKM&amp;imgurl=http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7150/6716250661_d7fd881738.jpg&amp;w=500&amp;h=373&amp;ei=oMZLT-OPGMSh8gOx5fSyDg&amp;zoom=1&amp;iact=hc&amp;vpx=321&amp;vpy=264&amp;dur=663&amp;hovh=
18:09 egrsteve I was guessing closser to 150
18:09 egrsteve that should be fine for transport
18:09 egrsteve how is it stoppered?
18:10 matt___ its wraped in bubble wrap in an old moldy carboard box which is disintergrating
18:10 egrsteve how is the contianer sealed?
18:11 egrsteve cork, glass stopper, rubber ecrt
18:11 matt___ yep it has got a cork in it
18:11 egrsteve ok
18:12 matt___ it is very heavy if i drop what should i do
18:12 Seroster brök
18:12 Seroster egrsteve! Sup mate?
18:12 egrsteve don't drop it
18:12 Electricguy try reinfocring the bottle before you lift it if you are scared to break it
18:13 egrsteve at 100lb I would get a heavy box or crate to place it in and move it with 2 people
18:13 matt___ it has got handles but one has got a crack in it
18:13 egrsteve a milk crate would work well
18:13 Electricguy then DON'T use that
18:13 Electricguy cracked handles on glass bottles are no good
18:14 Seroster egrsteve, How much would I have to pay you to measure the fire ladder with a tape measure? ;P
18:14 egrsteve I'm not at the lab right now, and I was the CB ;)
18:14 matt___ il put it in a plastic box and put some liquid foam in it will that work
18:15 Electricguy i think so
18:15 Electricguy just remember to start by making a foam layer in the bottom of the crate before you put the bottle in it
18:15 egrsteve that might do, however you pack it it needs to be removable to get it into a new container if needed
18:16 egrsteve so wrap it in a plastic bag before foaming
18:16 Electricguy a taped layer of foam rubber around the bottle and then liquid foam around that maybe
18:16 egrsteve that way it can be slid out of the bag latter
18:16 egrsteve *later
18:16 matt___ il do that then, i hope chris wants it
18:17 SparkyProjects matt___: might be an idea if you email chris first
18:18 SparkyProjects Unless there's someone at the lab on here that can ask
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18:19 Electricguy tgg|yNos ot tgg|wannabe perhaps
18:19 Electricguy or*
18:20 egrsteve what every you do pack it in serveral layers of plastic
18:21 yNos grr
18:21 yNos confcallssuck.com
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18:22 egrsteve I have to get to class, so ttyl
18:22 Electricguy ok
18:22 Electricguy have fun!
18:23 egrsteve thansk
18:23 egrsteve I will leave chris a message about the Hg
18:24 egrsteve matt___ ^
18:24 Seroster Thieving fucking cats...
18:24 Seroster Turn my back and half of the dinner is gone
18:24 LeePod I write better in cursive as I'm writing Shannon in cursive
18:24 CaptainNiobe your fault for not training them human food is a nono, Seroster... :P
18:25 Electricguy lol! true shit XD http://xaxor.com/images/Girls-vs-Boys-/Girls-vs-Boys-10.jpg
18:25 yNos Seroster: nothing a small airsoft gun cant fix..
18:27 tgg|wannabe whats the question?
18:27 Electricguy if Chris want 3Liters of mercury
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18:27 Webbat guys O.o
18:27 Webbat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_hopper
18:28 BotSteve Title: Grace Hopper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
18:28 tgg|wannabe everyone else says yes
18:28 Webbat I was born the day she dies
18:28 Webbat this is hackbat btw
18:28 Webbat died
18:28 Electricguy i'm pretty sure a lot of people dies when i was born
18:29 Electricguy died*
18:29 Webbat but the connection there is insane
18:29 Electricguy connection?
18:29 Electricguy were you relatives?
18:30 Webbat She's the mother of programming
18:30 Webbat and I grew up to be a programmer
18:30 Electricguy okay
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18:30 Electricguy greetings cap
18:30 Captain ok, who is the guy with the donation?
18:31 Electricguy matt___,
18:31 Seroster CaptainNiobe and yNos I'm about half a centimeter away from giving them a vacuum cleaner hickey.
18:31 Captain Is he here? I was told I had t get in here right away, where is he?
18:31 hhrlisa sero you're naughty
18:31 Webbat Seroster: I don't want to hear about your saturday night
18:32 Electricguy captain, he was here a little while ago
18:32 Electricguy hmm
18:32 Electricguy matt___, you there?
18:32 CaptainNiobe train them and you'll be fine... contrary to popular belief, cats CAN be trained... but it takes more effort than dogs...
18:32 Seroster .seen matt___
18:32 Electricguy Y U NO ANSWER LE IRC?!?!?
18:32 BotSteve Seroster: I last saw matt___ 0.27 hours ago at 2012-02-27 18:16:30 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 18:32:28 UTC
18:32 Captain He has 10 seconds before I get back to actual important things.
18:33 Electricguy i'm sure he'll leave you a message
18:33 Captain ok, have fun
18:33 Webbat welp bye captain!
18:33 Electricguy ok
18:33 Electricguy u 2
18:33 SparkyProjects We'll get him to send youan email
18:33 Seroster CaptainNiobe, My cats have been trained for the first year or so of their life that they starve if they don't steal and eat anything they can find
18:33 Electricguy lulz! true. http://www.n0.se/f/n/a8ca6_1330214870.jpg
18:33 CaptainNiobe streetkittehs?
18:33 Seroster Untraining that is damn hard
18:33 Seroster Aye
18:33 mashpriborintorg do not disturb the captain while he does things :p
18:33 Webbat forbidden
18:34 CaptainNiobe it's worth the effort though, sero... take a lot of time, but if you praise them every time they eat pet food and other than chasing them off, ignore them when they eat people food, eventually they'll get it and leave people food alone...
18:36 Electricguy i imagine it's about like this when it's Omni's birthday :D http://www.n0.se/f/n/a966d_2j3mbra.jpg
18:37 Seroster lol Electricguy
18:37 CaptainNiobe also, i find my cat (surpringly) doesn't beg for food... partly i assume because every time he *does* get people food, i put it in his bowl - he won't eat it anywhere else...
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18:39 egrsteve BotSteve: tell matt___ to ask for lab contact info
18:39 BotSteve egrsteve: I'll pass that on when matt___ is around.
18:42 Electricguy mario cart! http://www.n0.se/f/n/61e02_qtzkf.jpg
18:42 Superphosphate Hi electricguy!
18:42 Electricguy hi hi :)
18:43 Superphosphate lol it really is mariocart
18:44 Electricguy yepp :D
18:44 hhrlisa life sucks
18:45 Electricguy not for me :P
18:45 Superphosphate I had a great day yesterday in the sun outside!! Yay spring
18:45 Electricguy yeyy :)
18:46 Superphosphate today was a bit less, light rain, dark skies and my daughter just attacked me
18:46 Electricguy hhrlisa, why does it suck for you?
18:47 hhrlisa i hate my job. i want to be a stay at home mom but i can't because i need the money and it's slowly driving me insane
18:47 Electricguy aww okey
18:47 Superphosphate thats not easy
18:47 Electricguy moment 22
18:50 Seroster You drop 30.000 skin cells every MINUTE. Damn.
18:50 Seroster CaptainNiobe, The cat is scouting the table, his eyes got very very black when he spotted the meat. Now he's walking towards it very very very slowly....
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18:51 CaptainNiobe Seroster: hiss at him like a pissed off cat...
18:51 Seroster He's legally retarded and doesn't give a fuck
18:52 Seroster He's a street kitten, he prioritises food over evrything else.
18:52 Seroster After locking eyes with him for a while he laid down, still looking on the food.
18:53 CaptainNiobe try it and see if he cringes... if he does, there's your weapon as a warning... my next step if a hiss doesn't work on pepper is to stand up menacingly (at which point he DOES stop, cause he knows the next step is a headhunt lol)
18:53 Seroster If I turn around now he will snatch it and be gone in a microsecond
18:53 Seroster Lol
18:53 Seroster Yeah, but before he runs away he'll grab the food
18:54 Seroster Only thing that works is to push him down, and then he's just up on the table again in a second xD
18:54 tgg|wannabe COOKIES
18:54 Webbat an electron travels just under 1 foot in a nano second inside a perfect vacuum.
18:54 Seroster CaptainNiobe, The only thing that has proven effective is pressurised air xD
18:54 Superphosphate I think my dog jumps through the window at that speed
18:55 Monkeh Seroster: Air pistol, cleaning pellets.
18:55 Electricguy an electricguy travel about 25-30km/h on a bike in air
18:55 CaptainNiobe then you headhunt him, catch him (preferably with food in mouth), take the food, tell him, "see this?" while pointing, and tell him, "NO!", accompanied by a fingertap across the nose (it's not to hurt, it's to be unpleasant)
18:55 Seroster And then I pee on him? =D
18:55 CaptainNiobe lol... not something i'd recommend :P
18:55 Webbat rape works better
18:55 Seroster Electricguy, Pussy. I've hit 55+ on a flat surface.
18:56 Electricguy me too
18:56 Seroster Webbat, Did you know that cats have barbed penises?
18:56 Electricguy but 25-30 is avarage speed
18:56 Electricguy my max is 72km/h
18:56 Webbat Seroster: yep
18:56 Seroster http://youoffendmeyouoffendmyfamily.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/CatWeen.jpg
18:56 Seroster I wouldnt want to rape that.
18:56 Electricguy with a dirt bike with wide ass tires
18:56 Seroster It's like an evolutional rapex.
18:57 astro73|alice history exams are no fun
18:57 Seroster Electricguy, Dirt bike? Pussy. I hit 55 on a pedal bike. =P
18:57 Electricguy dirt bike as in heavy duty bicycle...
18:58 Seroster .g dirtbike
18:58 Electricguy a Giant Brass 2 http://www2.giant-bicycles.com/_upload_us/bikes/models/zooms/2009/Brass-2-Brown.jpg
18:58 BotSteve Seroster: http://www.dirtrider.com/
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19:01 slewfoot Anyone have an idea of what to use to measure material depth in a box?
19:01 slewfoot Electronically. Of course
19:02 Superphosphate lazer tape measure?
19:02 slewfoot Hmm... Needs to work on a flat black material
19:03 Seroster Eh
19:03 Superphosphate hrm, getting trickier
19:03 Seroster Pressure sensor in the bottom?
19:03 Seroster A capacitive sensor every five centimeters all the way up the side?
19:03 Electricguy at work we got a Bosch laser "tape measuer" it can measure on any material
19:03 Seroster A mechanical sensor every five centimeters?
19:03 Superphosphate echo locator
19:03 Electricguy measure*
19:04 Superphosphate sonar/radar
19:04 slewfoot Yea, I though so too, but an empty container would cause echoes and false readings
19:04 Electricguy a bosch DLR 130k
19:05 Seroster Capacitive sensors are idiot proof but expensive
19:05 Electricguy uses laser to measure
19:06 slewfoot Laser displacement might work if it can read on a flat black surface
19:06 Electricguy the bosch one does
19:06 Electricguy at least the one we got at work, which is that exact model
19:08 Superphosphate I wanted a lazer tape measure but they were too expensive for me v a roll out tape measure
19:08 Electricguy laSer* ;)
19:09 Superphosphate I like lazers better!! :-p
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19:09 BotSteve Welcome back, Mr. Kidwell
19:09 tgg|wannabe hi kidwll
19:09 tmbomber Hiya Everybody!!! Steve asked that I stop by.
19:10 Electricguy oh hi kidwell! =)
19:10 tgg|wannabe hi Superphosphate
19:11 Superphosphate Hello
19:11 egrsteve your just a bit late unless matt___ returns
19:11 Seroster Oh, hello kidwell. Sup?
19:11 tmbomber k
19:12 tmbomber Eakin & I just stepped out for Subway.
19:12 tgg|wannabe yay he got to eat :P
19:12 Electricguy OM NOM NOM!!!!
19:13 tmbomber Steve, any idea what the donation was about????
19:13 Electricguy i know
19:13 Electricguy 3L of mercury
19:13 Seroster whaaaa
19:13 Seroster Sounds like a great way to get in a lot of trouble =P
19:13 Electricguy if it's that donation you mean.. From Matt.
19:14 tgg|wannabe lol
19:14 Seroster tmbomber, "hello i came on here to ask a question i just moved house and i found a  3l glass botle of mercury in my basement i dont want my kids to smash it .etc does anybody know how to dispose of it and how much will it cost to do so thanks i realy have no idea"
19:14 Seroster That is what Matt said.
19:15 tgg|wannabe how does he know its mercury?
19:15 SparkyProjects tmbomber: matt___ lives in MI
19:15 tgg|wannabe end noob question
19:15 Superphosphate bye
19:15 Seroster tgg|wannabe, "matt___
19:15 tgg|wannabe bye!
19:15 Seroster i cracked it open and put a steel ball on it and it floated with gloves and a mask on of corse i think i might drive to tgg to donate it"
19:16 tgg|wannabe oooo ok
19:16 mashpriborintorg Bill is tinkering stomper control panel
19:16 tgg|wannabe i can go find chris now and ask him....
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19:16 tgg|wannabe and yes, bill is
19:16 SparkyProjects Also, the bottle is marked woth Hg
19:16 mashpriborintorg probably for the led display thing ?
19:17 egrsteve chris knows
19:17 tgg|wannabe ok
19:18 Seroster He was here asking for matt a few minutes ago
19:18 Electricguy more like an hour
19:19 Seroster Thing is, matt is scared of the HG, wich is healthy. I doubt matt will move it himself. What you need to do is send someone to matt with equipment to move a big old fragile glass bottle with a lot of death inside.  Also, you might want to check with the authoroties if you are even allowed to have that much mercury.
19:24 egrsteve we might have to refer him to the local hazmat
19:24 egrsteve given the amount
19:25 Seroster master0fmonks, yo dude, awake?
19:25 Seroster egrsteve, master0fmonks has worked as a hazmat chemist
19:25 egrsteve good to know
19:28 Electricguy fudge yeah! EG got a GF! :P
19:28 * Electricguy feel honored.. XD
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19:28 Seroster lol
19:30 tgg|wannabe a gf, Electricguy?
19:30 Electricguy yes :)
19:30 mashpriborintorg joined #thegeekgroup
19:30 tgg|wannabe w00t
19:30 Electricguy indeed :P
19:31 Electricguy she actually looks like a GIRL too XD http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/28244_442103985599_634955599_6344466_5624657_n.jpg
19:31 mashpriborintorg but is she arduino compatible ?
19:31 Electricguy i have to find out
19:31 * Electricguy googles ardudildo
19:32 mashpriborintorg no result, make one
19:32 Electricguy yeah
19:33 Electricguy sigh... someone is ALWAYS there before me... -,-
19:33 Electricguy http://themessyworkbench.wordpress.com/2011/06/06/open-source-vibe-arduino-controlled-vibrator-project/
19:33 Electricguy ....
19:33 BotSteve Title: Open-Source Vibe – Arduino Controlled Vibrator Project | The Messy Workbench
19:34 mashpriborintorg facepalm XD
19:34 * Electricguy head-desks....
19:34 Electricguy brb! coffeetime :D
19:35 tgg|wannabe awww she's cute
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19:38 tgg|wannabe hi Istas
19:39 Vladdeh woo
19:39 Vladdeh 6am on wednesday for raspberry pi
19:39 tmbomber well folks, I gotta go load a trailer. Catch ya all later!!!
19:39 tgg|wannabe bye!
19:40 egrsteve ttyl tmb
19:41 tgg|wannabe how many geeks does it take to test monitors?
19:42 Istas Hello wannabe.
19:42 Seroster Grats Electricguy.
19:42 Seroster Now, get off irc and go get laid.
19:43 tgg|wannabe lol
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19:47 tgg|wannabe hi BitViper!
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19:49 * egrsteve has 4 (four) cookies
19:49 egrsteve *3 (three)]
19:49 Istas That is 4 (four) more than I currently have, and is an amount I desire.
19:49 BitViper 2
19:49 BitViper 1
19:50 * egrsteve is hungry
19:50 egrsteve seems to happen every day here
19:50 tgg|wannabe Istas: they are at the lab....
19:50 * Electricguy returns
19:50 Istas "One time they were having a contest at the mall where you guess how many jelly beans are in a jar, and the closest person wins the jar of jelly beans.  Aw, come on man, let me just -have- some. Let's have a compromise; you guess how many I want. If you said a handful, you are correct." -Mitch Hedberg
19:51 Istas egrsteve: Huh, that happens to me every day here too... Do you think it's an epidemic?
19:51 egrsteve probably
19:54 * Electricguy got coffee and waffles! :3
19:55 BitViper hey Electricguy : congrats, now behave yourself
19:55 Electricguy lol :P
19:55 Electricguy thanks XD
19:55 Electricguy sigh.. SEED!!!! damn slow torrents...
19:55 BitViper oh, and for those who come to the lab (looks at egrsteve) http://bitviper.org/projects/tgg/robocat.mp3 ... ringtone for chris
19:55 HighMan|EScueLA theHi
19:56 Electricguy i don't want my clubland Xtreme hardcore album to be done in 14h... -,-
19:57 Electricguy BitViper, that is truly distrurbing
20:00 Electricguy lulz!xD http://theoatmeal.com/comics/computers
20:00 BotSteve Title: Why It's Better To Pretend You Don't Know Anything About Computers - The Oatmeal
20:04 Seroster Electricguy, I don't like my waffles with seed on them.
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20:09 Druidic_Rifleman i am bored
20:12 * Electricguy torrents music like a fucking geek!
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20:16 HighMan ...
20:21 BitViper Electricguy : im tempted to play that behind the camera when chris does viewer mail
20:21 Electricguy LOL XD
20:21 Electricguy THAT would be epic :P
20:23 masterofmonks egrsteve, May I assist you?
20:24 HighMan Hi masterofmonks!
20:24 Electricguy what is the computer for next to the stomper control box?
20:29 masterofmonks Hello HighMan
20:29 HighMan Anything new on irc?
20:29 BitViper Electricguy : unfortunately id prolly get dragged out into the street and beaten LOL
20:29 Electricguy LOL XD
20:30 Electricguy that would make an awesome CB! ;)
20:30 HighMan BitViper, ARE YOU THERE YET? XD
20:30 HighMan I think so :P
20:30 Electricguy LOL! Obama ftw! :D http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404231_353671837997697_229187803779435_1135289_117428576_n.jpg
20:32 Seroster Yo masterofmonks
20:32 Seroster .log
20:32 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
20:32 Seroster ctrl+f mercury
20:32 masterofmonks Seroster, under control.
20:32 Seroster We need hints on safe transport of three liters of mercury, stored in a somewhat beaten bottle.
20:33 Seroster Righto
20:36 astro73|alice get a new bottle?
20:38 BitViper HighMan : ive been here
20:38 HighMan ...
20:39 BitViper Seroster : teleporter
20:39 HighMan lol
20:39 tgg|wannabe he's in michigan
20:39 tgg|wannabe just drive the stuff....
20:40 Electricguy just the gas money for the drive = very cheap mercury :P
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20:49 PacketHumper your car runs on mercury? awesome
20:50 * y007ghg7 is bored
20:50 y007ghg7 wat do
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21:02 tgg|wannabe hi Experimentonomen
21:02 tgg|wannabe and PacketHumper
21:02 Experimentonomen g'evenin miss wannabe
21:03 Seroster astro73, getting a new bottle is a good idea, except for that you need to get the mercury from the old bottle to the new
21:03 tgg|wannabe i hear music noone else does....maybe its the radio :P
21:03 Electricguy sigh.. Scooter isn't good anymore. just downloaded their latest album.. it sux.. :/
21:03 tgg|wannabe Isopryolalcohol is coming to the lab....:/
21:03 tgg|wannabe :D*
21:03 * Experimentonomen has been computerless for about 3 days
21:03 tgg|wannabe why?!
21:04 Seroster Electricguy, This channel is publicly logged and uncle sam is watching. Do you really want to admit to a crime in here?
21:04 Experimentonomen my lappy ran out of life
21:04 Electricguy Seroster, you can PAY for albums online and download them..
21:04 PacketHumper hi tgg|wannabe
21:04 Seroster But rarely with torrents.
21:05 PacketHumper I do crimes all the time
21:05 Electricguy this wasn't a torrent. the hardcore album though that no-one want to seed is a torrent
21:05 Seroster I once killed a guy! =D
21:05 Experimentonomen im now im a stationary i've borrowed off my uncle until i can afford a new puter on my own, this means no more minecraft for maybe as much as a year as this machine only have 2GB ram and a athlon xp cpu
21:06 Experimentonomen atleast i got my apartment cleaned up :D
21:07 tgg|wannabe awww i'm sorry your computer died :/
21:07 PacketHumper Experimentonomen: what died on your computer?
21:08 astro73|alice Seroster: i didn't think mercury was _that_ bad
21:08 Experimentonomen atleast i have a few vidz to upload to the tube of stuff i did while beeing computerless
21:08 tgg|wannabe BitViper, PacketHumper, astro: https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/420863_10150652733808361_773993360_9103955_991722075_n.jpg
21:08 Seroster astro73 if it gets on the floor it will instantly go evrywhere, and will happily evaporate from the corners for years to come.
21:08 Electricguy mercury isn't _that_ bad as long as it's not in vapour form
21:08 tgg|wannabe .seen slewfoot
21:08 BotSteve tgg|wannabe: I last saw slewfoot 2.04 hours ago at 2012-02-27 19:06:03 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 21:08:42 UTC
21:09 astro73|alice Seroster: i didn't say it wouldn't be tricky. But i would think that properly pouring Hg would be easier than dealing with containment breach en route
21:09 Seroster My suggestion is you put the big glass bottle in a plastic bucket and then proceed to seal the bucket.
21:09 Experimentonomen PacketHumper, doesent matter, in rage i took apart the lappy comprelety beyond the point of beeing reassamblable
21:10 Seroster If the glass breaks it's not a problem. Then you can pour the mercury in a safe enviroment.
21:10 astro73|alice that works
21:10 Electricguy Experimentonomen, what a shame.. that laptop was barely 2 years old dude..
21:11 Experimentonomen Electricguy, more than 2 years old
21:11 Experimentonomen more like 4-5 years old
21:11 Electricguy ehm..
21:11 Electricguy wasn't it that fancy lappy you bought when you moved into the new appt?
21:11 Electricguy or just before that
21:12 Experimentonomen i had that lappy for over a year prior to the move
21:12 Electricguy that's like 2-2.5 years ago
21:12 Electricguy anyways, shame.. would have been cheaper to fix it than trashing it and buying a new one
21:13 Experimentonomen well that pretty much went out the windows once the screen got smashed
21:13 Electricguy -,-
21:15 Experimentonomen yes i too get mad enough sometimes that stuff flies across the room
21:18 tgg|wannabe :/
21:20 Hackbat radioshacks has arduinos now
21:20 Experimentonomen *beep**beep**beep**beep* the lappys hdd is obviosly dead
21:20 Seroster I hate this drill bit.
21:21 astro73|alice current topic of discussion: Could Hitler have used more passion or compassion?
21:22 HighMan Do resturant owners get tired of their own food?
21:22 tonsofpcs yes.
21:22 tonsofpcs well, kinda
21:22 HighMan I was just wondering xD
21:22 tonsofpcs they generally will make different food for themselves :-p
21:23 HighMan I'm watching man vs. food and I'm like wtf are they even enjoying what they are cooking
21:23 tonsofpcs tgg|wannabe: is the out-of-area party started?
21:23 tonsofpcs HighMan: the spicy sushi one looks awesome and I don't even eat sushi.
21:23 tgg|wannabe zozo and bit are here :D
21:23 HighMan tonsofpcs, ...?
21:24 HighMan tgg|wannabe, That's cool! Tell BitViper I said Hi
21:24 tgg|wannabe cpro will be next month
21:24 HighMan And i'll be in ~ 2-3 yrs
21:24 HighMan :P
21:24 epictang0 http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/q8dye/the_day_he_stopped_giving_a_fuck/c3vl5if
21:24 tonsofpcs tgg|wannabe: I'm sorry.
21:24 epictang0 comment of hte day right there
21:24 tgg|wannabe i bought them chinese for lunch :D
21:24 BotSteve Title: yawner80 comments on The day he stopped giving a fuck.
21:24 HighMan Nice of you
21:24 tonsofpcs I had moes for lunch.
21:25 HighMan Well if lunch is after school (~3ish) then a can of soup
21:25 tgg|wannabe it was buffet and it sat well with both, so thats good!  better than mcdonalds....and zozo wono't let me buy supper :P
21:25 HighMan Hahaha
21:25 tonsofpcs take them somewhere that's GRR-local/regional
21:26 tgg|wannabe like?
21:26 HighMan Hm...
21:26 tonsofpcs idk, something they can't get elsewhere....
21:26 HighMan Dope?
21:26 tonsofpcs I wanted to try that taco place while I was there but didn't get a chance.  Mind you, I'm silly and I have a friend who keeps telling me to open a taco place.
21:26 tonsofpcs HighMan: yes, you are.
21:26 HighMan :P
21:27 tgg|wannabe BitViper says branns steakhouse...
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21:28 tonsofpcs is that the place down the street?
21:28 tgg|wannabe 131 and leonard?
21:28 * HighMan looks it up
21:28 tonsofpcs roughly.
21:28 tgg|wannabe yeah
21:28 tonsofpcs they were good, I had lunch there one day.
21:29 HighMan Steak?
21:29 tonsofpcs I forget what I had.  It was a small lunch
21:29 HighMan Go to a steak house...
21:29 HighMan Idk
21:29 tonsofpcs HighMan: sorry, I went to the bar portion of the restaurant.
21:29 HighMan I never been to gr...
21:29 HighMan So...
21:29 Electricguy bedtime! night all
21:30 HighMan Nigh guy
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21:34 * egrsteve will be leaving school for the lab around 6
21:34 tgg|wannabe yay!
21:34 tgg|wannabe night Electricguy
21:34 HighMan Have fun eg_lappy
21:34 BitViper we'll be here egrsteve, did you see my ringtone egrsteve ?
21:34 HighMan egrsteve,
21:35 HighMan Who's eg_lapp?
21:35 HighMan *lappy
21:35 BitViper eg-lappy is electricguy
21:35 HighMan Ah ok xD
21:35 HighMan How's tgg Bit?
21:35 CaptainNiobe i thought you would have known that by now, hy... :)
21:36 HighMan :P I never seen that nick
21:36 HighMan I was typing egrsteve name and it popped up lappy
21:36 CaptainNiobe i have... countless times, even since you've been here :P
21:36 BitViper HighMan : this is my second time here, seems very very quiet here, not sure where everyone is
21:36 egrsteve hi BitViper
21:36 HighMan Ask chris for something 2 do
21:36 HighMan Or run your hand through the mill, it will create a huge stir up
21:36 * BitViper waves at egrsteve
21:37 * egrsteve waves back
21:37 CaptainNiobe BitViper, see if you can shrink quarters... :D
21:37 * HighMan Shoots Gamma Waves
21:37 HighMan :)
21:38 tgg|wannabe its yNos!
21:38 HighMan WherE?
21:38 egrsteve hi yNos
21:38 HighMan Hi yNos
21:38 egrsteve he must be at the lab
21:38 HighMan Yah lol
21:39 tgg|wannabe yep
21:39 HighMan I don't see anything on irc
21:39 CaptainNiobe say hello to him for me, wannabe :)
21:39 HighMan I'm an electron I'm negative and I'm always lone ;)
21:39 tgg|wannabe when he's done talking to BitViper i will
21:40 CaptainNiobe :) ty
21:40 HighMan Irc from phone
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21:41 tgg|wannabe lwq1996!
21:41 tgg|wannabe hi :)
21:41 CaptainNiobe hey lee
21:41 * egrsteve is still hungry
21:41 tgg|wannabe eat?
21:41 tgg|wannabe theres still cookies here
21:41 lwq1996 hey wannabe how was lunch with zozo and bitviper :P
21:41 tgg|wannabe awesome :D
21:41 tgg|wannabe and geeky.  somewhat dirty
21:41 egrsteve but will there still be cookies
21:42 tgg|wannabe yes....
21:42 lwq1996 dirty?
21:42 tgg|wannabe if they eat two things of cookies in an hour i'll be suprised
21:42 tgg|wannabe "will you plug me in"
21:42 HighMan Dirty? Who's the perv?
21:42 tgg|wannabe i meant my computer....
21:42 HighMan tgg|wannabe, Must be you
21:42 lwq1996 highman me :P
21:42 HighMan lol
21:43 * tgg|wannabe is the only girl in the room :D
21:43 tgg|wannabe bill, me, ynos, zozo, bit, etc
21:43 lwq1996 ok. how do you get rid of zits. i get lots of them and i want to get rid of them
21:44 CaptainNiobe don't pop, leaves scars
21:44 tgg|wannabe i still don't know how
21:44 astro73|alice tell them i said high
21:44 tgg|wannabe wash your face?
21:44 tgg|wannabe will do
21:44 astro73|alice and that i'm busy
21:44 CaptainNiobe you wash your face every day?
21:44 tgg|wannabe high?
21:44 lwq1996 captain niobe i take a shower everyday and i wash my face really good
21:45 lwq1996 and i dont get scars easy
21:45 CaptainNiobe ok. might be normal teen acne... i'd look at getting a cleanser, something like clean and clear... do you have oily skin?
21:46 lwq1996 eh, not all the time but sometimes
21:46 CaptainNiobe now?
21:47 lwq1996 eh, not really.
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21:48 CaptainNiobe k. maybe look at a cleanser for normal skin (by cleanser, i mean products designed to help get rid of pimples lol)
21:48 lwq1996 ah
21:48 lwq1996 i have some, i dont use it much because it burns like hell
21:48 tgg|wannabe hi slewfoot.  you coming in today?
21:49 slewfoot Maybe ... Need to head home first
21:49 BitViper slewfoot !!!!
21:49 CaptainNiobe must not be right for your skin then... if you have sensetive skin, some products can burn (like anything)...
21:51 lwq1996 i dont have sensative skin, it has a high amount of alohol i thin
21:53 HighMan Parents are idiots
21:53 astro73|alice of course, i tend to get a lot. and they're gone in 2 days, with new ones in different places
21:53 CaptainNiobe http://www.google.com/search?q=anti+pimple+products+in+america&amp;ie=utf-8&amp;oe=utf-8&amp;aq=t&amp;rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&amp;client=firefox-a
21:53 astro73|alice HighMan: often
21:53 BotSteve Title: anti pimple products in america - Google Search
21:53 HighMan Always.
21:53 HighMan MMy dad thinks he knows every f'ng thin
21:53 astro73|alice no, sometimes they're intelligent
21:53 astro73|alice like mine
21:53 HighMan HELL NO.
21:53 HighMan MY DAD IS A DUMB***
21:53 astro73|alice but then there's the ones that call helpdesk for their kids
21:53 astro73|alice i'm not disputing that
21:54 HighMan No. My dad thinks he knows everything.
21:54 HighMan Especially bout me.
21:54 astro73|alice ok. your dad is a moron
21:54 HighMan :)
21:55 epictang0 your dad has your shit keylogged...
21:55 astro73|alice mine isn't
21:55 HighMan epictang0, No
21:55 HighMan He just think he "knows"
21:55 CaptainNiobe lol... HighMan, are you an only child? or his first child?
21:56 HighMan First
21:56 CaptainNiobe that's why. lol
21:56 Druidic_Rifleman it's a dads job
21:56 slewfoot True
21:56 Druidic_Rifleman you think it's bad now
21:56 HighMan I'm not going to get in to it, gonna talk 2 my "girl" friend bout it.
21:56 Druidic_Rifleman wait till your an adult
21:56 tgg|wannabe .log
21:56 BotSteve Channel history can be found at: http://irclog.perlgeek.de/thegeekgroup/today
21:56 HighMan Well.
21:57 HighMan Girl Friend but just a friend... But nvm bout that
21:57 Druidic_Rifleman and you are expected to be responcible
21:57 Druidic_Rifleman Highmans got a girl friend
21:57 Druidic_Rifleman Highmans got a girl friend
21:57 Druidic_Rifleman Highmans got a girl friend
21:57 Druidic_Rifleman Highmans got a girl friend
21:57 HighMan No I don't;
21:57 HighMan It ain't close.
21:57 HighMan I'm gonna drop
21:57 CaptainNiobe he's still learning every step of the way with you. your younger sibling might be treateed a little differently because your dad learned with you :D
21:57 HighMan It's the opposite way ;
21:57 HighMan )
21:57 lwq1996 well that was awkward. i called shannon her mom picked up and we started talking about fun raisers and field trips. she wasnt there even :/
21:57 HighMan But... Please drop it...
21:58 epictang0 HighMan: you are a beta child...
21:58 HighMan Derp
21:58 epictang0 which is why we call my son Kid0
21:58 astro73|alice i'm at that awkward stage where i'm discovering how right my parents are...
21:58 lwq1996 highman you the reason condoms were invented
21:58 Druidic_Rifleman My dad laughed when my friend called them to Coax me off the ceiling cause of her sons
21:58 HighMan astro73, How old are you
21:58 astro73|alice 23
21:58 lwq1996 astro is old
21:58 epictang0 astro73|alice: it is a sad day isnt it?
21:58 slewfoot If only I had listened to my parents...
21:58 epictang0 i am old
21:58 lwq1996 older than SparkyProjects :P
21:58 astro73|alice epictang0: a little bit. growing up is traumatic
21:59 epictang0 that it is
22:00 * egrsteve cleans mark off laptop with hand sanatizer
22:00 CaptainNiobe i was a little shit growing up :-\ regret it like hell now, but... you can't turn back the clock...
22:00 astro73|alice the world is harsher than you know, and more beautiful than you realize.
22:00 slewfoot So was I... Thought I knew everything
22:01 epictang0 HighMan: one day, you will realize too how right your dad was and how much he actually knew
22:01 slewfoot Becoming a parent is humbling
22:01 lwq1996 CaptainNiobe:  what did you do? accidently hit one of the cows in the fields?
22:01 epictang0 just hopefully it wont be too late
22:01 * lwq1996 makes remarks on how old people are
22:01 HighMan epictang0, I hope it doesn't come out that way (Not that it is bad)
22:01 CaptainNiobe you don't wanna know, lee... lol...
22:01 astro73|alice i'm just stubborn. i thought i could make it work my way. turns out? not so easy.
22:01 HighMan I always retaliate
22:01 epictang0 slewfoot: agreed
22:01 astro73|alice lwq1996: i'm not even that old. they don't trust me with rental cars yet.
22:01 lwq1996 im a little shit :P
22:02 lwq1996 lol\
22:03 slewfoot I will Kellogg every Plc my kids use too.
22:03 slewfoot Keylog
22:03 CaptainNiobe i've got asperger syndrome, and when i was a kid, no one knew wat i had... back then, it was too newly classified for docs to be comfortable diagnosing it... i went through god knows how many tests, got labelled everything from spatic to retarded... :-\
22:03 epictang0 lwq1996: yes you are
22:03 CaptainNiobe spastic*
22:03 astro73|alice slewfoot: do you put cameras in their rooms, too?
22:03 epictang0 slewfoot: i just proxy their vlan...
22:04 epictang0 astro73|alice: yep
22:04 astro73|alice slewfoot: and bug their phones?
22:04 slewfoot No need for cameras.
22:04 slewfoot Paranoid much?
22:04 epictang0 i dont trust my babysitters
22:04 astro73|alice computer software. security is becoming a big deal
22:05 lwq1996 i dont trust myself o.o
22:05 astro73|alice and a little bit paranoid of governments. it translates easily to other authorities
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22:06 epictang0 i had one babysitter that found my stash of green...and was nipping on the shit...
22:06 slewfoot If you don't do anything to be ashamed of, then I won't have tokeylog the computer
22:06 astro73|alice and sometimes, it's the feeling of privacy and independence that matters
22:06 lwq1996 epictang0: you mean weed?
22:07 astro73|alice (age matters)
22:07 BitViper hey CaptainNiobe, have you been pointed to the ringtone i made for tgg-ers yet ?
22:07 epictang0 slewfoot: agreed...i dont care about your porn stash...i care about the 50 year old 'woman' you are going to meet
22:07 epictang0 lwq1996: you are a quick one
22:07 CaptainNiobe BitViper: nope, i have not...
22:07 slewfoot epictang0: exactly
22:08 BitViper CaptainNiobe : http://bitviper.org/projects/tgg/robocat.mp3
22:08 CaptainNiobe HAHA! cute, BitViper! :D
22:09 Seroster ARGH
22:09 Seroster Made a 10mm hole and just filed it up to 11.5 with a dremel
22:09 lwq1996 and seroster awakes :P
22:09 lwq1996 lol
22:09 lwq1996 seroster is one manly women
22:09 slewfoot joined #thegeekgroup
22:10 Seroster I kinda snapped, removed all the lube and didnt stop until the drill was glowing.
22:10 CaptainNiobe Seroster, i think you scared slewfoot off when you screamed :P
22:10 lwq1996 she scares everyone
22:11 CaptainNiobe he*
22:11 Seroster She.
22:11 CaptainNiobe he* lol
22:11 lwq1996 astro ive found another problem!!!!
22:11 tgg|wannabe she
22:11 CaptainNiobe he* :P
22:12 * lwq1996 shuts CaptainNiobe in a box
22:12 tgg|wannabe she!!!! ::P
22:12 tgg|wannabe BitViper is afk atm
22:12 CaptainNiobe HE!!!* :P :P
22:12 * egrsteve causes netsplit
22:12 tgg|wannabe lol
22:12 egrsteve ah peace and quiet
22:12 lwq1996 lol
22:12 CaptainNiobe lol
22:12 Seroster egrsteve, There is a command that kicks evryone in the entire channel. =)
22:12 lwq1996 DO IT
22:12 egrsteve but that would include the bot :(
22:12 lwq1996 no balls/tits
22:13 lwq1996 lol
22:13 Seroster True that, egrsteve.
22:13 egrsteve he didn't do anything wrong (yet)
22:13 lwq1996 lol its only about time that the bot gets his ass in trouble
22:13 Seroster If you really want some peace and quiet you can go into #tgg:controversial - nobody has said a word in there for ages. =P
22:13 tgg|wannabe lol
22:13 egrsteve hmm
22:13 egrsteve or I could troll NSFW
22:13 BitViper CaptainNiobe : ya think id get kicked out if i played that behind the camera while chris did viewer mail ?
22:13 BotSteve My ass is always in trouble.
22:14 egrsteve that was fun too
22:14 CaptainNiobe LMFAO!!! BitViper, he's probably piss himself laughing! LOL!!!
22:14 tgg|wannabe Seroster is gender fluid
22:14 BotSteve Problem is I lack buttocks.
22:14 lwq1996 NIOBE
22:14 CaptainNiobe not me this time.
22:15 lwq1996 sure
22:15 lwq1996 :P
22:15 CaptainNiobe betcha sero's got it lol
22:15 lwq1996 lol he may be doing it
22:15 Seroster ...It's niobe.
22:15 CaptainNiobe no it's not, i'm too tired to come up with funny shit atm
22:15 lwq1996 astro73 ive found a problem
22:16 injektion The ChanServ clear users function is so awesome
22:16 BotSteve You're not funny when you are sober either.
22:16 Seroster injektion, Aye.
22:16 astro73|alice lwq1996: thanks, in a minute
22:16 lwq1996 k
22:16 Seroster I've got the pleasure of actually using it on 20ish people at the same time.
22:20 lwq1996 i turned rain to fire, as i touched your face. makes so much lodgic
22:20 slewfoot joined #thegeekgroup
22:21 injektion I like that song
22:23 tgg|wannabe christina is awesome
22:23 lwq1996 lol
22:26 HighMan lwq1996, How much of an ass can you be? "are you a whore, whoops this isnt the in box"
22:26 * HighMan Wasn't stalking saw it on top of chat
22:26 lwq1996 lol
22:26 HighMan :P
22:26 slewfoot joined #thegeekgroup
22:27 lwq1996 she said ask me any question
22:27 HighMan lol
22:27 HighMan INBOX messagge :P
22:27 slewfoot Not scared
22:27 HighMan ?
22:27 slewfoot Nvm
22:27 astro73|alice ok, lwq1996. what's up?
22:28 lwq1996 the plugin, i found a problem. sometimes when i try to load a page i will get the page error saying cant find server or a 404
22:29 Seroster I got a dial/meter here with the scale "MVP", it goes from 0 to 20 and is fed by one copper tube.  What does it measure? Pressure? Heat?
22:30 lwq1996 something volume pressure i persume?
22:30 astro73|alice lwq1996: what's the URL?
22:30 astro73|alice .w MVP
22:30 BotSteve "In sports, a Most Valuable Player (MVP) award is an honor typically bestowed upon the best performing player or players on a specific team, in an entire league, or for a particular contest or series of contests." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MVP
22:30 lwq1996 well when i load the page again it finds the page, its happened with youtube, google, facebook, and some others
22:31 lwq1996 not to often but sometimes
22:31 astro73|alice Maximum Vapor Permeability?
22:31 exor674 Maximum Vapor Permeability... that
22:33 astro73|alice lwq1996: never seen any problems where Use HTTPS caused loading issues. If you track down the specific URL and the state that Use HTTPS has the site in (secured, potential, or blacklisted), send that to me.
22:34 Seroster astro73 wtf would that mean?
22:34 astro73|alice would what mean?
22:34 astro73|alice oh, also, force updates of your extensions
22:35 lwq1996 ok
22:56 slewfoot joined #thegeekgroup
23:17 tgg|wannabe they're speaking greek/geek
23:17 tgg|wannabe BotSteve: tell druidic_rifleman that sashi made it :D
23:17 BotSteve tgg|wannabe: I'll pass that on when druidic_rifleman is around.
23:25 astro73|alice spatula http://i.imgur.com/P5Xss.jpg
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23:28 Seroster Night folks
23:28 CaptainNiobe night Seroster, sleep well and sweet deams :)
23:28 tgg|wannabe night
23:29 Seroster I doubt that, CaptainNiobe =)
23:29 tgg|wannabe hi Noise_Marine
23:29 astro73|alice no, really. https://twitter.com/#!/wilw/status/174263817264566273
23:29 BotSteve Title: Twitter
23:29 Seroster Cya all.
23:29 slewfoot joined #thegeekgroup
23:29 tgg|wannabe woooo i dunno what i did, but ok
23:31 HighMan Mi so watery
23:33 tonsofpcs you said night
23:34 tgg|wannabe apparently
23:34 tgg|wannabe lab got run over with boyscouts
23:35 astro73|alice so many munchkins!
23:35 tgg|wannabe yes
23:36 astro73|alice just picture a flood of them filling every floor
23:36 tgg|wannabe so much khakhi
23:37 tehdark45 joined #thegeekgroup
23:37 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
23:37 tehdark45 it is the Toastdude
23:37 BotSteve tehdark45: I have the following messages for you:
23:37 BotSteve At 05:57Z, wannabe1987 asked me to tell tehdark45 no, not even if you're lazy!  you never eat a kit kat like a snickers!
23:38 eadthem joined #thegeekgroup
23:39 astro73|alice hmmm.... DevOps sounds interesting
23:40 tonsofpcs egrsteve: you know math for audio amp transformers?
23:40 tehdark45 tonsofpcs, sound * awesome / Boden
23:41 tonsofpcs tehdark45: erm, isn't awesome/Boden a constant?
23:41 tehdark45 1 Boden = 100 dB
23:41 tehdark45 :P
23:47 eadthem http://www.youtube.com/user/CGPGrey
23:47 BotSteve Title: CGPGrey's Channel - YouTube
23:47 eadthem this is the best channel ever
23:47 Monkeh Hmm
23:47 * Monkeh ponders using an Arduino to do AC voltage monitoring
23:48 astro73|alice i approve of this link
23:48 tonsofpcs this is the best channel ever:  [insert link to colorbars here]
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