Perl 6 - the future is here, just unevenly distributed

IRC log for #thegeekgroup, 2012-03-04

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00:00 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
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00:04 tgg|wannabe .seen BitViper|Bed
00:04 BotSteve tgg|wannabe: I last saw BitViper|Bed 0.72 hours ago at 2012-03-03 23:21:25 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:04:34 UTC
00:04 tgg|wannabe .seen toastdude
00:04 BotSteve tgg|wannabe: I last saw Toastdude 5.34 hours ago at 2012-03-03 18:44:27 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:04:39 UTC
00:04 tgg|wannabe .seen lwq1996
00:04 BotSteve tgg|wannabe: I last saw lwq1996 1.04 hours ago at 2012-03-03 23:02:27 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 00:04:42 UTC
00:04 tgg|wannabe gah
00:04 * BitViper|Bed sneaks up behind tgg|wannabe
00:04 tgg|wannabe everyone's gone....
00:04 tgg|wannabe lol
00:04 tgg|wannabe you would, too
00:05 * BitViper|Bed is innocent
00:05 tgg|wannabe i have knitting needles, be ware :)
00:05 tgg|wannabe bull-fucking-shit you're innocent....
00:05 * BitViper|Bed has dirty socks ... deadly from farther away
00:05 * Cprossu has a headache
00:05 tgg|wannabe hows the back?
00:05 tgg|wannabe take meds?
00:06 BitViper|Bed back is sore, but looking good for returning next week, but not monday
00:06 tgg|wannabe cool
00:06 BitViper|Bed monday has family thing
00:06 tgg|wannabe my days off are tues and fri
00:06 tgg|wannabe cool
00:06 BitViper|Bed how'd the concert go ?
00:06 tgg|wannabe good
00:07 BitViper|Bed kewl
00:08 tgg|wannabe thx sero
00:10 tgg|wannabe flying creepers....
00:16 Druidic_Rifleman hey wannabe
00:16 tgg|wannabe hi
00:27 egrsteve hello
00:27 tgg|wannabe hey look, its a steve!
00:28 egrsteve yes, it is
00:28 BitViper|Bed oh crap, RUN
00:29 BitViper|Bed egrsteve : did you get the link i pm'd you a day or two ago ?
00:29 egrsteve no
00:29 BitViper|Bed just resent it
00:29 egrsteve thanks
00:32 tgg|wannabe https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/425399_334635493256129_244753448911001_953127_378149935_n.jpg
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00:39 lwq1996 hey
00:39 * tgg|wannabe waves
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00:43 lwq1996 i got to go, going to town
00:43 tgg|wannabe kk
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01:07 wannabe1987 its the doctor!
01:09 Monkeh|Lap tgg|wannabe1987: Doctor who?
01:09 tgg|wannabe1987 mhm
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01:22 tehdark45 so much stuff going on
01:22 tehdark45 lol
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01:26 BitViper|Bed yeah hard to keep up with this channel
01:27 tgg|wannabe lol why?
01:27 tehdark45 cuse no one is talking
01:27 tehdark45 :P
01:27 BitViper|Bed its sooo busy, cant read it all
01:27 tehdark45 ikr
01:28 tgg|wannabe sorry, watchin mike on gmod
01:32 tehdark45 lol
01:33 tehdark45 is he welding random shit?
01:33 tgg|wannabe no, showing us (me, jeff and squeak) random shit
01:33 tgg|wannabe like fireworks'
01:34 tehdark45 ah
01:36 tehdark45 most servers hate fireworks lol
01:37 tgg|wannabe not cpro's i guess
01:37 Toastdude joined #thegeekgroup
01:37 tgg|wannabe hi
01:41 Toastdude H8
01:41 Toastdude *Hi
01:42 tgg|wannabe hate?  o.O :p
01:42 egrsteve hello
01:43 ajprog_laptop hi
01:44 slewfoot joined #thegeekgroup
01:51 tgg|wannabe "sometimes I want to take my safety torx bits into a public bathroom and dismantle the stalls just for fun"
01:51 tehdark45 sounds fun tgg|wannabe
01:51 tehdark45 :P
01:52 tgg|wannabe friends fb update
01:52 tgg|wannabe he drives a saab....he's a bit strange
01:52 tehdark45 Seroster, tgg|wannabe is calling swedish cars strange :P
01:53 tgg|wannabe i didnt call saab strange....
01:54 tehdark45 "he drives a saab....he's a bit strange" implies that strange people drive saabs :P
01:54 HighMan Hola
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01:55 tehdark45 ahaha fail
01:55 HighMan Whoops.
01:55 HighMan :P
01:55 HighMan ctrl+w
01:55 tehdark45 i ctrl x you into the recycle bin
01:55 tehdark45 :P
01:55 HighMan tehdark45, :P
01:55 tgg|wannabe dude, have you ever been in a saab?  they're a bit strange....wonderful, yet strange
01:55 HighMan A saab?
01:56 tehdark45 .yuno
01:56 BotSteve College Degree: Y U NO GET ME JOB????????????
01:56 HighMan xD
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01:59 tgg|wannabe .yuno
01:59 BotSteve Weekend: Y U NO LAST LONGER???????????
01:59 tgg|wannabe .shake BotSteve
01:59 BotSteve For me?  Thank you!  ** Slurp Slurp Slurp.** That was refreshing
02:01 Ender http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoWMF3VkI6U&feature=g-vrec&context=G2641acdRVAAAAAAAAAQ
02:01 BotSteve Title: Fun with ultracapacitors!! - YouTube
02:01 Ender *buying
02:01 Seroster tehdark45,  she's an idiot.
02:01 tgg|wannabe hi Ender
02:01 tgg|wannabe probably
02:02 epictang0 tgg|wannabe: My daily driver is a Saab 97x...love it
02:02 Seroster Nothing wrong with Saab except for that people don't buy them
02:02 tgg|wannabe his is a 93 viggen
02:11 Monkeh|Lap Kindle prices annoy me.
02:14 HighMan .shake Monkeh|Lap's *****
02:14 BotSteve Here you go, Monkeh|Lap's *****, I made you a strawberry shake!
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02:17 tgg|wannabe hi injektion!
02:18 injektion Hidy no
02:18 injektion Ho*
02:18 tgg|wannabe whats new in GA?
02:18 tgg|wannabe find a new job yet?
02:18 TGG-Zozo .pizza
02:18 TGG-Zozo aw....
02:18 HighMan Lol
02:19 HighMan Pizza is Yummy
02:19 tgg|wannabe here you go zozo, theres a pepperoni pizza in teh fridge
02:19 TGG-Zozo lol
02:19 HighMan TGG-Zozo: Here you go Anchovie and Olive Pizza!
02:23 TGG-Zozo yum
02:23 HighMan Ewh
02:23 TGG-Zozo yoiur right... olives kinda suck
02:24 HighMan Well, if you get crappy ones they can taste like METAL. As for anchovies EWH.
02:24 Ender You're all probably familiar with him , but I just thought I would plug the awesome guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/bkraz333
02:24 BotSteve Title: bkraz333's Channel - YouTube
02:25 HighMan I'm subscribed... I saw how to make aerogel and it got me hooked up on that lol
02:25 HighMan Also... Freeze Dried Ice Cream, that face was pricless XD
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02:28 Ender He is the science teacher I would have loved to have growing up!
02:29 wannabe1987 joined #thegeekgroup
02:29 Monkeh|Lap Ender: You would turn up when I'm pondering reading Ender's Game.
02:29 wannabe1987 lol
02:30 Ender Ender Wiggin was my childhood hero :)
02:31 Seroster Filing epoxy made my file very sad....
02:31 egrsteve seroster: wire brush
02:32 Monkeh|Lap egrsteve: Belt sander.
02:32 Seroster Yeah, that would most likely make it slightly happier
02:32 Seroster Great idea, monkeh.
02:32 egrsteve no, clean the file with a wire brush
02:32 HighMan Seroster, Blast Sander
02:33 Ender http://www.audible.com/pd/ref=sr_1_1?asin=B002V5A12Y&qid=1330828266&sr=1-1
02:33 Seroster That could work, HighMan. Please send me one and I'll try t
02:33 BotSteve Title: Ender's Game: Special 20th Anniversary Edition Audio Book | Orson Scott Card | Download Ender's Game: Special 20th Anniversary Edition
02:33 HighMan Seroster, You trying to sand away epoxy with a sand blast sander?
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Ender: I kinda prefer reading :P
02:33 HighMan I hate it :P
02:33 Monkeh|Lap Ender: Not entirely sure I'm willing to pay the Kindle price, tohugh.
02:34 Monkeh|Lap HighMan: Yes, we can tell. It shows in your illiteracy and ignorance. :P
02:34 HighMan Monkeh|Lap, Kindle Fire or what?
02:34 HighMan Monkeh|Lap, I'll read if it's something intresting... (Touching Spirit Bears, Watsons go to Burmingham, Outsiders) or if I'm forced to read
02:37 Monkeh|Lap HighMan: Try House of Suns, Hyperion, Starship Troopers, the Foundation trilogy.. Actually, no, give yourself a few years first..
02:38 * Monkeh|Lap adds Neuromancer to his reading list
02:38 egrsteve wheel of time anyone?
02:38 HighMan Monkeh|Lap, masterofmonks told me to read a book (forgot the name)... 2 lazy too
02:39 masterofmonks The Hitchhiiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
02:39 Monkeh|Lap Hm, yes, that's pretty much a must.
02:39 * egrsteve seconds MOM
02:39 masterofmonks Also.
02:39 egrsteve don't forget all 5 in the triligy
02:39 HighMan Yah... Sorry masterofmonks I haven't read it..
02:39 Monkeh|Lap Kinda thought that one went without saying, but when dealing with someone too lazy to read..
02:39 * masterofmonks beats HighMan over the head with a skillet.
02:39 HighMan masterofmonks, :P I'm too lazy..
02:39 * masterofmonks beats HighMan over the head with a skillet.
02:40 Monkeh|Lap How can you be too lazy?
02:40 * masterofmonks beats HighMan over the head with a skillet.
02:40 masterofmonks Just for good measure.
02:40 Monkeh|Lap masterofmonks: Kids these days.
02:40 masterofmonks Next he'll be telling me he's never heard of The Dresden Files.
02:40 HighMan ... Wah? ^
02:41 * masterofmonks beats HighMan over the head with a skillet.
02:41 masterofmonks Hmm, I need to make that a button.
02:41 HighMan Stop with that skillet or it's going to be fitted sideways masterofmonks.
02:41 HighMan See? I refrained from using the "Caps" Button.
02:42 Ender No one is to lazy to read books. The ones that dont (or many of them) just don't realize they have problems concentrating and gets bored.
02:42 masterofmonks HighMan, be careful what you threaten, you might just find soeone who enjoys it... Like Seroster
02:42 HighMan XD
02:43 HighMan Seroster, do you want your Ahole to be ripped in to two peices?
02:43 Seroster Die.
02:43 HighMan Yes, you would die.
02:43 HighMan masterofmonks, Would you?
02:43 Ender Just get a fucking audiobook and play it when you work/sit on the buss/walk..
02:44 masterofmonks Ender, Call me Bean.
02:44 HighMan Or buy the book
02:44 masterofmonks To :controversial to discuss Ender's Game
02:45 * egrsteve returns to wheel of time: book 9
02:45 * Cprossu returns to trying to break a beta video game
02:45 * HighMan Returns to make a mutli boot usb
02:45 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Which is that?
02:45 Cprossu Garrys Mod 13 (Beta) @ Monkeh|Lap
02:45 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Oh, nothing exciting then. :P
02:46 Monkeh|Lap Cprossu: Sins of a Solar Empire: Rebellion for me.
02:46 Cprossu sure it is :P
02:46 Monkeh|Lap Haven't broken it yet, but I HAVE broken the backs of some large empires. :P
02:47 * Monkeh|Lap heads back into House of Suns
02:51 Ender Is there a garry's mod server up btw?
02:52 HighMan 111.111.111.1
02:52 HighMan .whois pancake
02:53 HighMan .whois spatula
02:54 Monkeh|Lap HighMan: I doubt the Garden Air Tower in Tokyo has a GM server.
02:54 HighMan XD
02:56 Ender lal, the two companies that deliver internet access in my area is in a furious battle at the mo. I just ordered 100/10 Mbit from one of them for 20$ a month
02:57 HighMan Monkeh|Lap, You did a ip trace for that?
02:57 eadthem Ender nice
02:58 eadthem so your basicly getting that  at almost cost :p
02:59 * eadthem almost feels sorry for the big executive whos not getting his 50$ per a customer hes use to.
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03:03 tehdark45 wb wannabe1987
03:04 Ender Looking forward to 11mb's a second download speed damn Sweden's had 100Mbit speeds for 10+ years and now Norway is slowly catching up.
03:05 wannabe1987 people keep talking to me....grrr
03:05 eadthem atm im on 6Mbps
03:05 eadthem for about 26$ a month
03:11 Seroster Why is my cat hanging upside down from a shelf licking her paw?
03:11 tgg|wannabe why  not?
03:11 Seroster Can't argue with that,.
03:11 Ender @eadthem where do you live? (country)
03:12 eadthem USA  kansas city kansas
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03:17 Seroster Ender, this isn't twitter. It's IRC. It outdates twitter by at least ten years.
03:18 tehdark45 Seroster, 10? more like 20 :P
03:18 Seroster I keep forgetting it's 2012 and not 2000..
03:19 tehdark45 lol
03:20 Ender *Still doesen't know how to reply to "person" without ./msg "nick" comand
03:20 egrsteve #why should I care
03:20 egrsteve just type there name Ender
03:21 tehdark45 their egrsteve >.< :P
03:21 Ender egrsteve so this makes "blip" noise?
03:21 egrsteve having there nick in the text will cause a highlight Ender even if it is in the middle
03:22 egrsteve yes, and changes the color of the text depending on there settings
03:22 Monkeh|Lap Ender: Also, any sane client will perform tab completion on nicknames.
03:23 egrsteve and no, mine does not make noises, but I get a color highlight on the line
03:23 Ender heh thnx  egrsteve haven't used irc the last 10-15 years
03:24 HighMan .insult Ender
03:24 BotSteve Hey, HighMan, i'd hit you, but I don't want to get stupid on my hands.
03:24 Monkeh|Lap The bot speaks truth.
03:24 HighMan :P
03:24 Ender .insult HighMan
03:24 BotSteve Hey, Ender, don't feel bad, I think your poor self-image is *completely* justified.
03:25 egrsteve botsteve only insults you
03:25 Ender tihi : )
03:25 HighMan lol
03:26 egrsteve although you can direct food at others;
03:26 Ender *needs a smoke, and wonders what command he should have used.
03:26 egrsteve .sandwich Ender
03:26 BotSteve Here you go, Ender, I made you a ham, pepperoni, pepper jack cheese on flat bread sandwich!
03:26 tehdark45 Ender, .volcano :P
03:27 HighMan Ender, Knock Knock
03:27 * tgg|wannabe goes to tgif
03:27 tgg|wannabe bye!
03:29 HighMan tehdark45, Knock Knock
03:36 tonsofpcs hi
03:36 Ender Botsteve, monkey
03:37 Ender Ender bored and should go to bed
03:37 tehdark45 it is pc
03:40 Ender I made a bristle bot today, cut the handle of one of my cats brushes and put a motor with a led weight on top of it. Powered it with a 9volt battery, Awesome little thing
03:41 Ender http://www.purrfectpets.org.uk/images/products/cats/Cat%20Brush.jpg
03:42 Ender thats the brush I used, all the little iron bristles work great as legs.
03:43 Ender anyone doing here making robots simple/complex ?
03:43 Ender here doing*
03:47 Ender Did everyone go to "TGIF" ?
03:48 tehdark45 no
03:52 tehdark45 lol
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04:00 Hackbat http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2012/03/02/tongue-parasites-to-people-of-earth-thank-you-for-your-overfishing/
04:00 BotSteve Title: Tongue Parasites to People of Earth: Thank You For Your Overfishing | The Loom | Discover Magazine
04:01 Guest65605 good evening Wax here
04:03 Toastdude Hello Wax
04:04 Guest65605 Hello toastdude
04:05 Guest65605 what are you up to ?
04:05 Seroster ...Wax.
04:06 Guest65605 yes
04:06 Ender NN all
04:06 Seroster You honestly thought that nobody registerd that name already?
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04:43 epictang0 lol
04:45 Toastdude what?
04:45 Toastdude .seen wannabe1987
04:45 BotSteve Toastdude: I last saw tgg|wannabe 1.29 hours ago at 2012-03-04 03:27:49 UTC on #thegeekgroup.  Current time: 04:45:08 UTC
04:53 tehdark45 Toastdude, she is @ tgif
04:55 egrsteve although it is saturday
04:55 egrsteve almost sunday in fact
04:56 tehdark45 lol
04:56 tehdark45 if it was onen friday only, i dont think they would be in business
04:56 tehdark45 open*
05:01 epictang0 i always wondered how that pitch went...we are gonna open a restaurant...and we are going to pretend it is always friday...
05:02 epictang0 yes...kinda like groundhog day
05:02 epictang0 no the employees wont be happy
05:03 tehdark45 lol
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05:16 epictang0 sooo bored
05:16 epictang0 lol
05:16 BatSteve epictang0: rock paper scissors GO
05:16 BatSteve rock
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05:34 * BatSteve puts rock away
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05:41 lwq1996 im tired
05:52 tehdark45 lwq1996, was the hammering alot of work?
05:52 tehdark45 :P
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05:55 lwq1996 i only had 2 blogna sandwiches today im hungry
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06:13 wannabe1987 ...
06:14 wannabe1987 the roads are icy :/
06:15 n1mjf be careful
06:15 wannabe1987 i'm at a house now! :D
06:15 n1mjf nice
06:16 wannabe1987 i slid through a few intersections, saw two people in the ditch, and almost got hit once!
06:16 wannabe1987 but i survived!
06:17 n1mjf wow. glad you made it safely
06:17 n1mjf hope the rest are OK
06:17 wannabe1987 ?  that was from the lab to jeff's house....i drove everyone to/from tgif
06:18 n1mjf but it's not Friday
06:18 n1mjf :-P
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06:19 wannabe1987 LISA
06:19 wannabe1987 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
06:19 hhrlisa KELLY!
06:20 wannabe1987 :D
06:20 wannabe1987 how goes it?
06:20 hhrlisa it goes
06:20 tehdark45 left
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06:20 wannabe1987 mine goes forward
06:21 * lwq1996 is noming on bottle caps
06:21 wannabe1987 ouch :P
06:21 wannabe1987 i never liked those
06:21 lwq1996 mine goes backwards
06:21 wannabe1987 awww :/
06:21 lwq1996 i love the rootbeer ones
06:21 lwq1996 i got my own room
06:21 lwq1996 tomorrow, organising
06:23 wannabe1987 video game tiem bbl
06:24 AgCNO6 nick Toastdude
06:24 Toastdude Whoops..
06:29 n1mjf welp.. back to the work grind for me. Have a great night everyone
06:32 tehdark45 bye n1mjf
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07:31 tehdark45 lwq1996, the noob
07:32 tehdark45 :P
07:39 lwq1996 ok im goin to b ed
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07:57 Sgt_Lemming afternooing all, soldering workshop we held at HSBNE went well today, photos will be uploaded soon
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08:04 * wannabe1987 watches mike and jeff play soul caliber
08:05 hhrlisa soul caliber?
08:05 wannabe1987 yeah.....video game on mikes ps3
08:05 Toastdude Hi
08:05 wannabe1987 i was playing little big planet earlier :D
08:05 wannabe1987 hi toast!
08:06 hhrlisa ah.. i think the last "video game" I played was little big planet at shannons house
08:07 wannabe1987 LBP is my fav, and he has 1 AND 2 :D
08:07 hhrlisa lol
08:07 wannabe1987 i haven't played 2 yet :P
08:07 wannabe1987 drew only had 1
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08:08 hhrlisa i have a wii at my house but it currently has pennies in it and wont work
08:08 wannabe1987 your son?
08:08 hhrlisa yes
08:08 wannabe1987 nice
08:09 hhrlisa i also have pennies in the dvd player attached to my tv i think.. its not working right
08:09 wannabe1987 take it to the lab, have them dismantle it and get your pennies back?
08:09 hhrlisa lol
08:09 hhrlisa i want the wii back i don't care about the change
08:09 wannabe1987 lol
08:09 wannabe1987 make it a donation "whatever you find in here you keep"
08:09 hhrlisa lol
08:10 hhrlisa well i know you need some silly special tool to take it apart thats the problem. or id do it myself
08:11 wannabe1987 batman = holder of all tools
08:11 wannabe1987 he probably has it :P
08:11 wannabe1987 or someoen can donate one!
08:11 hhrlisa lol maybe ill ask him.
08:11 hhrlisa its some silly three pronged screw driver or some bs.
08:12 wannabe1987 odd
08:12 hhrlisa i know right
08:13 hhrlisa annoyed the crap out of me when i googled how to take it apart
08:13 Sgt_Lemming photos of the soldering workshop for those who wanted to see em. https://picasaweb.google.com/115277388924201849210/SolderingWorkshop#5715948934694516146
08:13 BotSteve Title: Picasa Web Albums - Lemming . - Soldering Wor...
08:17 wannabe1987 look!  its a bunch of australians!
08:18 Sgt_Lemming actually, we had like 2 poms and 3 germans :-P
08:18 wannabe1987 awww
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08:27 wannabe1987 hi Electricguy
08:27 Electricguy hi hi :)
08:28 wannabe1987 hows you?
08:31 Electricguy tired :P just went out of bed :)
08:31 Electricguy and you?
08:32 wannabe1987 its 3:31am and i'm freezing cold.  watching mike and jeff play video games....
08:32 Electricguy lol :P
08:32 Electricguy geeks... :P
08:32 wannabe1987 yeah....mike got his ps3 set up on jeff's tv
08:32 Electricguy hahaha okey :D
08:32 Electricguy what a shame it's not a NES...
08:33 wannabe1987 yep.  and then we played little big planet for a bit then other fighting games which i dislike
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08:33 wannabe1987 hi einball!
08:33 Electricguy hehe okey :P
08:33 Electricguy hi hi einball :)
08:34 einball Wtf
08:34 einball Iam a whiny bitch o_o
08:34 einball and he's right!
08:34 einball brb off to feed my cat
08:34 Electricguy erm? XD
08:35 wannabe1987 mrow!
08:37 epictang0 playing with windows 8...interesting guts
08:47 einball Electricguy: Referred to chris bodens last video
08:56 Electricguy hmm ok :P
08:57 einball oh not the last .. but that before the last
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09:07 Sgt_Lemming https://imgur.com/gallery/ID2eY
09:07 BotSteve Title: Mario : "I don't need all the stars anyway ... Just keep walking" - Imgur
09:08 Experimentonomen hm
09:13 Electricguy awe yeah! gonna hook up the analog surround system today :P
09:13 Electricguy probably going to make a video of it
09:13 Experimentonomen snurraruntljud ;)
09:13 Electricguy :P
09:13 wannabe1987 wtf
09:13 wannabe1987 was there a new vid today?
09:14 Electricguy not at my end
09:14 Experimentonomen guten morgen peepz
09:14 wannabe1987 nope
09:14 wannabe1987 ok
09:26 einball "Chris boden is not a substitute for a healthy diet, but does contain all the nutrients a growing boy needs (Now with Vitamin X25!)
09:26 einball "
09:27 Experimentonomen huh?
09:27 einball Captains Blog Disclaimer
09:27 einball I know, noboy reads it
09:27 einball but its actually quite funny
09:27 wannabe1987 its hillarious!
09:28 wannabe1987 the irc helped make/write it
09:29 einball :)
09:29 wannabe-zz night
09:30 Experimentonomen nite miss
09:30 angy night
09:30 einball My internet disconnects me from my bouncer ... almost 4 times within 5 minutes :(
09:31 Experimentonomen einball: http://i.imgur.com/Gxt57.jpg
09:32 einball Uhm ... what about a little bit of cleaning the front plate? :D
09:34 einball hihi
09:34 einball a nice case - when will it be finished?
09:36 Experimentonomen pretty soon, after i've gotten som M4 threaded rod from the local harware store
09:36 einball okay
09:36 einball that sounds cool
09:44 Electricguy the surround system is working :D
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09:45 Electricguy howdy zoz
09:45 Experimentonomen g'day Guardianzozo
09:45 Electricguy o
09:45 Guardianzozo yo
09:45 Guardianzozo hows it going?
09:46 Experimentonomen im waitin fer monday to come
09:46 masterofmonks Don't rush it man.
09:47 Guardianzozo i cant wait for monday also
09:47 Electricguy lol
09:47 Guardianzozo sunday the lab is closed
09:47 masterofmonks People spend their lives wishing their lives away.
09:47 masterofmonks Live the moment.
09:47 Electricguy ok, uploading a video of the analog surround system :D
09:47 Electricguy it sounds cool :D
09:47 Experimentonomen masterofmonks, well i need to goto hardware store and they aint open on weekends :/
09:47 masterofmonks One day you will have no more Sundays.
09:48 Guardianzozo yay
09:48 Guardianzozo i hate sundays
09:48 Guardianzozo nothings open
09:48 Guardianzozo no booze
09:48 Electricguy yeah. sundays are just depressing..
09:48 Guardianzozo and what ever is open closes early
09:48 masterofmonks Until you realize that you aren't going to see another one.
09:48 masterofmonks Then Sundays look pretty attractive.
09:49 Guardianzozo when i worked at a call center i made sure i worked sundays
09:49 Experimentonomen :o
09:50 Guardianzozo well no one called cause everyuone thought we were closed
09:50 Guardianzozo =)
09:50 Experimentonomen :P
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09:52 masterofmonks Greeting M_
09:52 masterofmonks Not to be confused with M__.
09:52 Guardianzozo lol
09:52 Electricguy lulz
09:53 Experimentonomen M from james bond :P
09:54 Electricguy everyone with a 4 track tape deck should try to set up a surround system! :P it sounds awesome :D
09:56 masterofmonks Don't you mean quadraphonic?
09:56 Electricguy not really.. it's a 4.1 system
09:56 Electricguy soon a 5.1 :P
09:56 Experimentonomen i think quadraphonic was another name for the hafler matrix
09:56 Electricguy yeah
09:57 Electricguy quadraphonic only uses 2 channels
09:57 Electricguy at least the systems i've seen
09:57 Experimentonomen where the rear speakers were ran in bridge mode and phase was used to create the surround effects
09:58 masterofmonks Quadraphonic is 4 channel.
09:59 Electricguy mkay
09:59 * einball now playing: Daft Punk - Overture
09:59 Electricguy well.. then quadraphonic is a surround system too :P
10:00 einball Electricguy: nope
10:00 einball Quadrophon systems are NO surround systems
10:00 Electricguy ok, if it's not, my system is not a quadraphonic system as i'm playing real surround sound music
10:01 masterofmonks "Quadraphonic (or Quadrophonic & sometimes Quadrasonic) sound – the most widely used early term for what is now called 4.0 surround sound – uses four channels in which speakers are positioned at the four corners of the listening space, reproducing signals that are (wholly or in part) independent of one another. " -- Wikipedia
10:01 Electricguy a video of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UtVamaX4d8
10:01 BotSteve Title: True analog surround 4.1 system - YouTube
10:01 einball masterofmonks: but its still no true surround
10:02 einball ooow fuck
10:02 einball I watched tron at friday
10:02 einball my neighbour went crazy haha
10:02 einball But I didn't hear him
10:02 Experimentonomen the original or legacy ?
10:02 Electricguy why isn't quardaphonic surround?
10:02 einball I have to pay a set of wine glasses
10:02 einball ._.
10:03 einball legacy .. the original sucks a little bit in quality. I watched for daft punk music
10:03 masterofmonks I have heard a few older mixes in quadraphonic, they are DAMN good.
10:04 masterofmonks But then again, I think that the artists cared about the mixes more then....
10:05 Electricguy in a quadraphonic system you are surrounded by sound and speakers.. so tewchnically it should be a surround system :P
10:05 Experimentonomen "90's porn movie" XD LOL
10:06 Electricguy :P
10:08 Experimentonomen im kinda suprised that u know what that kinda music sounds like :P
10:08 Electricguy what guy doesn't watch pr0n? :P
10:09 Experimentonomen i dident
10:09 M_ M is my computer's name
10:10 M_ blame it on my chat client
10:10 masterofmonks Well what is your name?
10:10 M_ MK
10:10 M_ lol
10:10 wannabe-zz ...
10:10 wannabe-zz right
10:10 wannabe-zz night all
10:11 masterofmonks Night wannabe-zz.
10:11 wannabe-zz cya mom
10:18 Experimentonomen my soundcard has 5.1 out but its so dumb that it requires dolby DTS coded audio to give anything out on the surround channels
10:19 Electricguy darn
10:27 Experimentonomen but it doesent matter, i never use surround anyways
10:27 Electricguy me neither.. but it's fun to play around with
10:28 M_ me neither...I move around too much
10:28 Experimentonomen and all my speakers are too big to be used a rear speakers
10:28 Electricguy same here
10:28 Electricguy speakers are never too big :)
10:29 Experimentonomen for rear speakers, something like some 2-3 inch 1watt rated boombox speakers would do just fine
10:29 Electricguy yeah
10:30 Experimentonomen but my smallest speakers have 8" woofs
10:31 Experimentonomen i actually broke the light fixture in the kitchen with my subwoofer, i was watching a movie when i heard a huge noise from the kitchen, like someone dropped a dozen pots and pans on the floor
10:31 M_ nice
10:31 Experimentonomen when i looked, the plastic diffusor on the fluoro fixture had crashed to the floor
10:32 M_ I've got a bic f12 but I haven't turned it up that loud. live in a rowhouse :/
10:32 Electricguy looks like a decent sub
10:33 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/SUVZM.jpg <-- all three boxes in that pic was wired up for 1.5 ohms in parallel
10:34 Electricguy mono system?
10:34 Experimentonomen http://i.imgur.com/felhh.jpg <-- driven  by that
10:34 Experimentonomen on heavy bass transients, the fan almost stops completely due to that puny little power trtansformer
10:37 M_ looks like fun
10:37 Experimentonomen http://soundcloud.com/experimentonomen/audiotestwithsub-1 <-- second song dident have any bass content though
10:37 BotSteve Title: Audiotestwithsub by Experimentonomen on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free
10:38 Experimentonomen i have only heard bass like that once before, when i was with a friend in the dj bootyh of a club that had atleast three large 18" subs
10:39 Experimentonomen not even the local cinema has bass this deep
10:41 Experimentonomen atleast not with the same quality
10:41 M_ anyone here dj?
10:42 Electricguy not me
10:42 Electricguy but u have been, sort of
10:42 M_ ?
10:43 Electricguy was dj with a friend that owned the stuffz
10:43 wannabe-zz if you fell asleep with your computer open, would you want someone to shut it and move it?
10:43 Electricguy so i know how to operate DJ equipment..
10:43 Experimentonomen i was offered a dj mixer once for 2 euros
10:45 Electricguy wannabe-zz, probably, yes :P
10:45 wannabe-zz lol ok
10:45 Experimentonomen wannabe-zz, fell asleep on the keyboard ?
10:46 wannabe-zz no, mike fell asleep and his computer is open bye his feet
10:46 Experimentonomen heh
10:46 Electricguy ow hehe :P
10:46 wannabe-zz i dont want him to kick it..
10:46 Electricguy hehe
10:46 Electricguy just move it aside :)
10:47 wannabe-zz theres not that much room here on the bed...i'd have to get up and move it to the floor....
10:47 Electricguy do that ;)
10:47 Electricguy it's better than him kicking it down on the floor :)
10:47 wannabe-zz much.  and teh computer i'm sure has some issues and doesn't need more abuse
10:48 wannabe-zz gosh its cold....i'm just glad he's sleeping....
10:48 Electricguy hehe
10:48 wannabe-zz night all!  off to move zozo's computer and then sleep myself
10:48 Electricguy night night! :)
10:48 M_ night
10:48 wannabe-zz Electricguy: he's been having issues sleeping....so sleep is good
10:48 wannabe-zz night M_
10:48 Electricguy ahh ok. yeah
10:48 Experimentonomen nite again missy
10:48 M_ be honest...who here has fallen asleep with their laptop on their chest all night?
10:48 M_ only to wake up and get right back online
10:48 wannabe-zz i have!  :P
10:49 wannabe-zz o totally....and i will again if i don't put this down (its like 10 till 6am here....)
10:49 Electricguy i haven't
10:49 M_ done it a million times
10:49 M_ I never move when I sleep
10:49 Experimentonomen i've died in my couch a few times and waking up the next morning with the stereo still playing music
10:53 M_ does tgg have a radio station?
10:53 Electricguy yes
10:53 M_ does it stream?
10:54 Electricguy yepp
10:54 Electricguy hang on
10:54 Electricguy http://thegeekgroup.org/live/radio/
10:54 BotSteve Title: The Geek Group » Radio
10:55 M_ ty
10:56 M_ ok...this is an interesting mix
10:56 Electricguy not really my type of music :P
10:56 Electricguy i listen to www.neradio.fm a lot though
10:57 Electricguy swedish station
10:57 M_ looks cool, thanks
10:57 Electricguy np :)
10:57 M_ I usually listen to DI radio
10:57 M_ or KEXP
10:57 Electricguy mkay
10:57 Experimentonomen i rarely to never listen to web radio
10:57 Electricguy neradio got decent sound quality for a web radio station
10:58 M_ sounds alright in my headphones
10:58 Electricguy :)
10:59 Electricguy their autoplay can be a bit lame. but they usually got live DJs in the evenings
11:00 M_ that's what I was wondering...if tgg could set up something like that
11:00 Experimentonomen *yawn* im bored, i think im gonna take a walk
11:00 M_ I'd be willing to mix for an hour or two on weekends
11:00 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/dDu7U
11:01 BotSteve Title: Bumper sticker found at my local Wal-mart - Imgur
11:01 Electricguy lulz
11:01 Experimentonomen haha
11:01 Experimentonomen anyways im going out for a while
11:01 Experimentonomen bbl
11:01 M_ later
11:07 Sgt_Lemming http://tinyurl.com/89trb86
11:07 NeWtoz I love waiting for memtest to finish =/
11:09 M_ upgrading?
11:09 n1mjf www.chronixradio.com =  decent sound quality.
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11:10 masterofmonks On the subject of the bumper sticker....
11:11 masterofmonks It is the *love* of money that is the root of all evil. Which is an entirely different thing than money being the root of all evil.
11:11 n1mjf about that sticker.. George Carlin answered that best
11:12 masterofmonks That crap makes me crazy. If you are going to make a jab at someone, at least make sure you understand what they are saying.
11:17 M_ I don't think anyone expects to find rational discourse that's free from logical fallacies on the bumper of a truck in the Wal-Mart parking lot
11:18 masterofmonks I can have unreasonable expectations for bumper stickers.
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11:18 M_ haha
11:18 M_ Might wanna learn to live with high blood pressure, then
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11:19 Spanish_Inquisit Nobody expects me!
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11:20 M_ oh jesus
11:20 NeWtoz yes child?
11:20 Sgt_Lemming "what are you doing? you're not a priest!" </altarboy>
11:22 M_ the "look of disapproval" doesn't paste well into my client
11:22 M_ so just imagine I'm sending one
11:33 Electricguy yayy! i got a working interface to sync the tascam deck with winamp! :D
11:34 n1mjf winamp, FTW
11:34 Electricguy yepp :P
11:34 Electricguy the tascam deck is controlling winamp via the COM port
11:34 n1mjf I'm rocking my winamp-portable exec now on my work computer.
11:34 Electricguy just a pair of optocouplers, resistors and caps and it works :D
11:39 Electricguy awesome when interfaces are so easy to build! :D
11:45 Electricguy the plug for the deck is going to be a pita though...
11:45 Electricguy some weird pin spacing
11:50 Electricguy 3.5mm spacing...
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12:16 Druidic_Rifleman bbiab
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12:24 Druidic_Rifleman ok back
12:26 masterofmonks Welcome back.
12:29 HighMan|Night Hola
12:30 HighMan Watching the cb and wondering if there are any bodies in there..
12:33 Experimentonomen there we go, about 8000 blocks walked
12:35 Electricguy i wonder what the best way is to build a connector for the tascam...
12:35 Electricguy perhaps a piece of clad board that i handdrill
12:36 n1mjf or wine cork
12:37 Experimentonomen is it a male or female connector ?
12:37 Electricguy i'm gonna build the male part
12:37 Electricguy the pin spacing is 3.5mm
12:38 Experimentonomen drill holes in copperclad 3.5mm apart, dremel out traces and solder on pins that fits the connector, add cable and encase in epoxy ;)
12:39 Electricguy yeah that's what i'm thinking
12:40 Electricguy or use a DB25 housing
12:40 Experimentonomen whichever works
12:40 Experimentonomen maybe someday you can find the proper connector
12:40 Electricguy yeah
12:41 Electricguy ok, got the hole template on a piece of cardboard now
12:41 Electricguy those small solder pins you put into PCBs work pretty well as connector pins
12:42 Electricguy so i just put a bunch of them in the jack and pusehd a cardboard piece against them
12:44 Experimentonomen like when i hooked up a tv to the puter once, just jammed solid core wires into the scart port :P
12:47 Experimentonomen composite video through 20 meters of what i think was heated floor cable, was like coax but with lead instead of a braid and a 12" crt tv that was like 20 years old
12:48 Electricguy lol
12:48 Electricguy ok, gonna head for the garage, cut and drill some clad board and then solder it together...
12:49 Experimentonomen any text was unreadable but still i somehow managed to do chatting and playing games
12:49 Experimentonomen highest possible res was 640x480 though
12:50 Experimentonomen by the end i also had keyboard and mouse extended out those 20 meters between two floors
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12:56 funtime180 hey! quick question, how do i start windows7 in safe mode?
12:56 Experimentonomen during bootup, press F8 just in earlier versions
12:57 funtime180 ok thanks
12:59 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/r/atheism/SdGgk
12:59 BotSteve Title: I enjoyed seeing this on my drive home. - Imgur
13:00 einball hm
13:00 Sgt_Lemming http://imgur.com/r/atheism/nUvlX <--- lol
13:00 BotSteve Title: Senator, when you took your oath of office... - Imgur
13:01 Experimentonomen hm
13:19 Electricguy ok, the pin part of the plug is done
13:19 Electricguy thankfully the connector in the deck was bakelite(!) o_O so i could put all pins in and then push on the board and solder it while it was plugged in. so i got the fit very good
13:23 Experimentonomen hm no sound
13:34 * Experimentonomen takes apart a 6" server fan and loctites the bearing tube in place with some loctite for circular stuff like bearings and such
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13:42 injektion It's time to retire my converse shoes and now I need a good pair of driving shoes
13:46 BitViper|Bed anyone know where the actual config files are on a ddwrt router ?
13:47 injektion Somewhere in the flash :P
13:48 BitViper|Bed @_@
13:48 injektion Err somewhere in its flash memory
13:48 * BitViper|Bed grabs the back of injektion's undies and pulls them over injektion's head!
13:49 * Experimentonomen is gonna see how high he can get the fans motor to run by using a separate psu to power the motor coils
13:49 BitViper|Bed get high speed video of the blades coming off
13:50 Experimentonomen without the fan on it, i took the fan off the motor
13:50 Experimentonomen now im just waiting for loctite to cure
13:51 injektion I don't want to get out of bed ATM
13:52 injektion I have to use the bathroom and I don't want to
13:52 Experimentonomen haha lazy boy :P
13:53 NeWtoz I've had those moments
13:54 NeWtoz just to forewarn you, you'll eventually go
13:54 Experimentonomen unless he rather pee in bed :P
13:57 injektion Or use a catheter
14:02 BitViper|Bed >.<
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14:10 mantere great, i went to grocery store and my nose started kinda bleeding and i only noticed once i was leaving the store. luckily it wasn't full on nose bleed and didn't couse any mess on my face, i just thought it was my flu.
14:12 HighMan Damn... That sucks... Hope you get better... Also aren't flu victims supposed to be inside.. Eating soup and drinking medicine
14:21 injektion They should be
14:22 mantere thanks. my flu isn't that bad anymore and my fever is gone too. Usually i wouldn't go even near to any public place when i have a flu, but i had to get some food. i tried not to touch anything i didn't need to =)
14:24 HighMan xD
14:24 HighMan Did you wash your hands?
14:25 mantere yeah
14:25 HighMan Good.
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14:36 Sgt_Lemming I just killed 8'814 zombies :-P
14:40 Electricguy ok, this is how the tascam deck looks inside! :) http://imgur.com/a/jtYby
14:40 BotSteve Title: Inside a TASCAM 234 Syncaset tape deck - Imgur
14:42 Sgt_Lemming Electricguy, I should have taken some pics of the one I pulled apart recently
14:42 Sgt_Lemming photomultiplier based OOOOLLLDDD school video camera
14:42 Electricguy i hope it was a broken one.. otherwise you scrapped a deck for like 200 dollars.. :P
14:43 Electricguy oh, a camera. ok
14:44 Sgt_Lemming considering it had a like 20 pin din connector as the only video ouput
14:44 Sgt_Lemming it had auto-focus! ZOMG
14:44 Electricguy lulz :P
14:44 Sgt_Lemming it needed a "portable"
14:44 Sgt_Lemming VCD
14:44 Sgt_Lemming VCR even
14:45 Electricguy OMFFGFGFGFGGGG!!! autofous is RARE!
14:48 Seroster Unmarked pipes in the basement of gh6, Let's cut them and see what is inside! =D
14:49 Sgt_Lemming cue another video of chris getting covered in unidentified putrid liquid
14:49 BitViper|Bed and we now have proof that Seroster is volunteering for that task
14:50 Seroster BitViper|Bed, If you pay for my ticket to the US I will happily grab a shovel and lower the basement floor two feet.
14:50 BitViper|Bed lol
14:50 Sgt_Lemming same
14:51 Seroster Also, I can be a crash test dummy since I am a swedish citizen and the swedish embassy will pay for any medical expenses. =)
14:54 HighMan .define tennant
14:54 BotSteve Couldn't get any definitions for tennant.
14:54 HighMan .define tenant
14:54 BotSteve tenant — noun: 1. One who pays a fee (rent) in return for the use of land, buildings, or other property owned by others, 2. An occupant — verb: 1. To hold as, or be, a tenant
15:14 Electricguy really nice track :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACFCo4cByPo&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=1&amp;feature=plpp_video
15:14 BotSteve Title: Transformers - Arrival to Earth (Dave Dee! vs. DJ Harddanzor Bootleg Mix) - YouTube
15:15 * Cprossu wakes up. is grumbly
15:23 * BitViper|Bed offers Cprossu some of the drink he has in front of him
15:24 * Cprossu comments, wow you drink scotch when you wake up?
15:24 BitViper|Bed hehehe not quite scotch
15:24 Cprossu so what's up bv?
15:24 BitViper|Bed just cranberry apple juice, spiked with sour apple pucker
15:25 Cprossu which reminds me I have a little bit left of my before-sleep can of mountain dew
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16:06 mashpriborintorg hiya
16:06 * mashpriborintorg sorting out a pile of electronic parts
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16:35 injektion I wonder if I could get INJECT on a vanity license plate
16:38 eadthem ive never done it but ive considerd getting eadthem on 1
16:38 eadthem its the right number of letters in kansas
16:42 injektion Could "inject" be offensive to someone?
16:42 masterofmonks injektion, Probably.
16:43 HighMan So is "HighMen"
16:45 injektion Can someone explain to me the mindset that would find inject offensive to someone
16:46 HighMan Injecting such thing in to such thing..
16:46 HighMan A person who has something against sex? xD
16:47 injektion http://motor.etax.dor.ga.gov/forms/pdf/motor/MV_Prestige_Tag_Request_Form_MV9B.pdf
16:51 injektion As per that form I have to explain why I want that on a license plate
16:51 Seroster bÖRK.
16:52 injektion ?
17:06 HighMan Did you hear Fed Ex and UPS are merging? Yeah...there gonna call it Fed Up!
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17:35 KB3NZQ_Biostar any one  home ???
17:36 HighMan Ya
17:37 Electricguy honk
17:37 KB3NZQ_Biostar do you think there is any value in selling a 17 in dell lce  that just needs the lce pannel and 2 backlights
17:37 KB3NZQ_Biostar ment lcd not lce
17:38 KB3NZQ_Biostar i have the stand and defusers and shell and boards too
17:42 KB3NZQ_Biostar hello?
17:42 KB3NZQ_Biostar never mind it is going in the dumptser now
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17:59 Electricguy DAMN 5.1 surround songs can be big... i'm downloading one that's 344MB now! o_O
18:04 HighMan Electricguy, What's the fastest (KM/H) can a car guy?
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18:04 Electricguy HighMan, huh?!? o_O
18:04 Sasha__ Hello :)
18:04 Electricguy hi hi
18:04 HighMan Electricguy, What's the fastest a regular car can rev up to?
18:04 Sasha__ Any arduino experts here?
18:04 Electricguy HighMan, depends on the engine
18:05 Electricguy not an expert.. but i know a little
18:05 HighMan Electricguy, Just give me a average speed
18:05 Electricguy 8-9000Rpm for a gas engine.. approx
18:06 Electricguy around 3-4000 for a diesel
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18:06 Electricguy i wonder if i just answared a shoocl thing...
18:06 HighMan 8-9000! (rpm) Wouldn't the wheels be flying off!?!?!?! That would almost kill the wheels!
18:06 Electricguy hi hi lwq1996
18:06 lwq1996 hi
18:06 Electricguy HighMan, ever heard of a gearbox?
18:06 HighMan Electricguy, Ever heard of a factorial ;)
18:06 lwq1996 lol
18:07 Electricguy HighMan, http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car.htm
18:07 BotSteve Title: HowStuffWorks "How Cars Work"
18:07 HighMan Electricguy, Factorials.
18:07 Electricguy http://auto.howstuffworks.com/car.htm
18:07 BotSteve Title: HowStuffWorks "How Cars Work"
18:07 HighMan Electricguy, Factorials.
18:23 tonsofpcs Electricguy: did he break something?
18:24 tonsofpcs KB3NZQ: no, but you could put a piece of frosted glass on the front and use it as a light box
18:25 BitViper|Bed bahahahahah ... small town population : "nobody cares, and falling"
18:27 BitViper|Bed *sneeze*
18:27 tonsofpcs BitViper|Bed: I think there's some towns up here that list their populations as "#### Cows"  "and some people too"
18:27 tonsofpcs [#### might be ##### depending on the town]
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18:29 BitViper|Bed hehehe
18:31 HighMan How does one create a countersink? (I just sorta did)
18:32 Cheezmo depends what you need to countersink
18:33 HighMan Concrete
18:33 Cheezmo oh well then
18:34 Cheezmo never done concrete drilling myself, other than some small holes through brick
18:34 HighMan I was screwing around with a drill and a coat hanger... I bent the coat hander in to an L and then... My whole body was shaking.
18:34 Cheezmo that'll do it
18:34 HighMan It was sorta fun XD
18:35 Cheezmo nothin says dangerous like flying metal
18:35 HighMan xD, Nothing broke
18:35 Cheezmo this time, lol
18:35 HighMan I did break a crapy drill bit pushing it a bit too hard in to the cement..
18:36 Cheezmo masonry bit and hammer drill?
18:36 HighMan Nope.
18:36 Cheezmo what, just regular bit and regular drill?
18:37 HighMan Both
18:37 HighMan An old dewalt with some sort of cheap drill bit
18:37 Cheezmo that's a good way of spending 20 times longer than needed :P
18:37 HighMan xD It's probably 10-15 yrs old?
18:37 HighMan Well 5-15
18:39 HighMan Hey wannabe1987
18:39 wannabe1987 hi HighMan
18:39 HighMan Anything new
18:39 wannabe1987 nope
18:39 wannabe1987 you?
18:39 wannabe1987 other than you're not in /ignore
18:39 wannabe1987 ....
18:39 wannabe1987 on*
18:39 HighMan Lol, Nothing really
18:40 Electricguy tonsofpcs, no idea
18:40 HighMan Just abit curious as to our band grade during mpas
18:40 Electricguy tonsofpcs, http://imgur.com/a/dgeqv
18:40 Electricguy :)
18:40 BotSteve Title: TASCAM to Winamp interface - Imgur
18:40 HighMan People still use winamp?
18:40 Cheezmo got WinAmp playin tunes as we speak
18:40 HighMan I thought the software winamp was LONG gone...
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18:46 mantere i'm still using winamp. i have yet to find a good alternative for it.
18:46 HighMan The last time I used winamp was when I was 5?
18:47 HighMan I thought it was no longer in production...
18:47 mantere it's 5.621 atm
18:47 * HighMan Looks at changelog
18:47 HighMan mantere, No... 5.623
18:47 mantere i might have not updated it =P
18:48 HighMan I'm looking at the change log xD
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18:50 wannabe1987 look!  its a zozo!
18:51 HighMan Hi Guardianzozo
18:51 Guardianzozo yo
18:51 Electricguy hi there zozo and HeavyMetal
18:52 Guardianzozo yo Electricguy
18:52 Electricguy what's up?
18:53 Guardianzozo watching ashens on youtube
18:53 Electricguy mkay
18:53 Guardianzozo you?
18:53 Electricguy nomming some noms and recording surround sound music on a 4 track recorder :)
18:54 Guardianzozo ah fun
18:54 Electricguy kind of..:P
19:00 HighMan usb
19:00 HighMan whops
19:01 Electricguy epic sounding track :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV_QVQaX07k&amp;list=FLILw-C8ptzspdz35L9HBvIg&amp;index=7&amp;feature=plpp_video
19:01 BotSteve Title: Dirty Boyz - Boom (Shake The Room) (G4bby ft. Bazz Boyz Remix Edit) - YouTube
19:02 tonsofpcs Electricguy: you fab'd a connector!?
19:02 Electricguy yes :P
19:02 tonsofpcs heh
19:03 tonsofpcs I like it, but you could have just bought one
19:03 Electricguy i didn't have anything that would fit.. so i made one :D
19:03 tonsofpcs what'd you use for the pins?
19:03 Electricguy why buy it when you can build it? :P
19:03 Electricguy those solder terminal pins you can find on PCBs to solder wires onto
19:03 Electricguy i got a bag of them.. :P
19:04 tonsofpcs erm... you mean wire-wrapping pins?
19:04 Electricguy no
19:04 Electricguy the ones on the output on this board for example http://www.rapidonline.com/catalogueimages/module/M074556P01WL.jpg
19:04 tonsofpcs testpoint pins
19:04 Electricguy ahh
19:05 Electricguy they fit pretty good in the remote jack on  the deck
19:05 tonsofpcs they're probably the same as wire-wrapping pins though, idk, i've never seen anything just partially wirewrapped
19:05 Electricguy wirewrapping pins are square
19:05 Electricguy so the pin "dig" into the wrapping wire to make better contact
19:06 tonsofpcs why are 3 pins missing?
19:06 Electricguy they didn't really fit in the holes i drilled :/
19:07 Electricguy and they are not used anyways
19:07 Electricguy i only use 3 pins. the rest are just for mechanical support
19:07 tonsofpcs yea
19:07 tonsofpcs you figure out the physsical interfacing?
19:07 tonsofpcs s/physical/electrical/
19:08 Electricguy yes. i could set up the winamp plugin so it ignores the forbidden state that can occur
19:08 Electricguy pretty neat plugin
19:08 Electricguy so it's all good
19:09 Electricguy and it's AWESOME to have this function. so nice to just hit record on the deck
19:09 Hackbat Arg I hate my friends from highschool, they're so stupid
19:09 tonsofpcs so just two optoisolators then?
19:09 Electricguy yes. and 2 caps to make the static signal to a approx 100ms pulse
19:09 HeavyMetal hey Electricguy
19:12 Electricguy it's awesome to have 2 soundcards in your computer when you want to record something
19:12 tonsofpcs oh, right, pulse, blah... so you can't make it trigger on rising edge I take it?
19:12 tonsofpcs i guess that's ok though, you're delaying the play not the record
19:13 Electricguy now i got one card that's only used by winamp. so i wont get any other windows sounds in the recording
19:13 tonsofpcs so you can hit record+pause to engage, then pause (or play, or whatever) to go and it plays 100ms later
19:13 Electricguy it seems to trigger on the rising edge. cause it triggers instantly
19:15 tonsofpcs then why do you need to shorten the pulse?
19:16 Electricguy i don't know if i REALLY need it. i just did it in case the plugin wouldnt do anything before the input was released.
19:16 tonsofpcs by shortening the pulse you have no way to know if pause is engaged or not
19:16 Electricguy i don't think i really need it. but it works now at least :P
19:17 Electricguy yes, i do know because the music stops if pause is engaged... :P
19:17 tonsofpcs but that doesn't tell you if you press rec+pause then release pause
19:19 Electricguy no.. but i don't really get what you are going for.. :P cause now i preload a track in winamp, manually turn the tape to the right start position and then hit rec+play to start the recording
19:21 tonsofpcs are you getting the start at full tension and full speed or are you creating pitch shifts?
19:22 Electricguy i get no pitch shifts
19:26 Electricguy hmmm.. the PSU in the tascam deck seems a bit weak
19:26 Electricguy when i disable 2 VU meters the illumination on the other 2 goes up and the meters move a lot more
19:26 Electricguy maybe a recap of the PSU would be good
19:28 Electricguy i need more tapes..
19:29 Electricguy the deck is using a lot of them.. XD
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19:29 Ponko oh it's good to be back :)
19:30 tonsofpcs Electricguy: the bulbs are probably just wired in series....
19:30 Electricguy yeah
19:30 Electricguy maybe
19:30 Electricguy but i'm not sure about the meter movement
19:31 tonsofpcs well, the meters do have ballisics controlled through a cap or similar
19:31 Electricguy mkay
19:31 Electricguy btw, who asked for inside pics of the deck yesterday?
19:32 mashpriborintorg me
19:33 Electricguy ahh. hang on then :)
19:33 Electricguy http://imgur.com/a/jtYby
19:33 BotSteve Title: Inside a TASCAM 234 Syncaset tape deck - Imgur
19:33 Electricguy geek pr0n :3
19:33 mashpriborintorg thanks, love your "componant dolls" also
19:34 Electricguy lol thx :P
19:34 Ponko has anyone heard of Linde or C&M Bailing?
19:34 mashpriborintorg well the insides of the tascam looks quite like any other japanese deck, with more stuff
19:35 Electricguy hehe
19:35 Electricguy all decks i have checked the inside of are almost totally empty.. xD
19:35 mashpriborintorg the worst you can have are tuners
19:36 mashpriborintorg big box, nothing inside
19:36 Electricguy hahaha yeah
19:36 Electricguy just to make room for the big scale :P
19:39 Electricguy the most boring things to take apart are CD players..
19:39 Electricguy random crap you can't do anything with.. :P
19:39 mashpriborintorg as inkjet printers
19:40 mashpriborintorg but cd players do not bleed ink everywhere
19:40 Electricguy true XD
19:40 Electricguy printers are just a big pile of hard-to-take-apart.plastic :P
19:41 Hackbat http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&amp;feature=fvwp&amp;v=3l6f9pR0ocY scumbag steve plays dnd
19:41 BotSteve Title: D&D - YouTube
19:41 Electricguy you know you are bored when you chat with russian girls living in the uk.. xD
19:42 wannabe1987 lol
19:43 Electricguy she is really kind and funny though.. :P
19:44 wannabe1987 is it your gf?
19:44 HighMan Canned Ibises
19:44 Electricguy nah. this is just some random.. XD
19:44 Electricguy she wanted to learn swedish, so i thought; Why not!? XD
19:45 HighMan lopl
19:45 HighMan *lol
19:46 Ponko kind of interesting the stuff we have at work
19:47 mashpriborintorg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9TxlY79ZwI she can teach me swedish or any other thing she wants
19:47 BotSteve Title: Swedish lesson 1 - girls4teaching.com - YouTube
19:48 Electricguy boner achieved
19:48 Ponko why not show her the FUNEX video
19:49 Electricguy lol.. nah :P
19:50 Electricguy LOLLOLL XD http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405679_2941663111171_1549016028_32902477_1119646751_n.jpg
19:50 Seroster ...This room is pg13 you twat!
19:52 lwq1996 lol
19:52 Electricguy then you should GTFO as your language in here can be pretty rude sometimes too :)
19:52 lwq1996 im pg 15 :P
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19:55 Seroster U jsut zapped myself with 50000volts.
19:55 Seroster I*
20:00 wannabe1987 lwq1996!
20:01 mashpriborintorg oh god http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Test-Equipment-HP-Agilent-Tektronix-Panasonic-Fluke-Nice-/140712451045?pt=BI_Analyzers&amp;hash=item20c31d9be5#ht_3062wt_93
20:01 BotSteve Title: Test Equipment HP Agilent Tektronix Panasonic Fluke Nice! | eBay
20:01 lwq1996 0.0 /me hides under new desk
20:01 lwq1996 yes?
20:01 wannabe1987 hi :)
20:01 lwq1996 hi :D
20:11 tonsofpcs hi
20:12 wannabe1987 hi
20:13 Electricguy i need a headphone amp..
20:13 Electricguy for stationary use
20:14 lwq1996 are you going so deaf that you need it like that?
20:15 lwq1996 eh i got a bed to put together
20:15 wannabe1987 have fun
20:15 lwq1996 just 4 bolts but still
20:16 Electricguy no.. but the line out from a audio device can't drive a apir of headphones
20:17 mashpriborintorg I use to have a neat small vintage Realistic amp for this purpose
20:17 Electricguy hehe oki
20:17 Electricguy i got a pair of home stereo amps.. but they are a wee bit too big for a pair of headphones
20:18 Experimentonomen back home
20:18 mashpriborintorg make a homebrew stk based amp ?
20:18 Electricguy nah. sak modules sound like junk with a pair of headphones
20:19 Experimentonomen Electricguy, and they hum :P remember ? ;)
20:19 Electricguy a THD of at least 0.05 would do
20:19 Electricguy yeah.. fucking STK modules..
20:19 Experimentonomen unless u run it off batteries
20:19 Electricguy yeah
20:20 Electricguy LM3886 modules work very good for headphones. but i don't have any spare ones..
20:20 Electricguy it sucks that the headphone out on the tascam deck sounds so bad..
20:21 Electricguy but i guess they never put much work into that as no sane studio uses that jack
20:21 Experimentonomen it may be made for special studio headphones
20:21 Electricguy yeah.. 300-600Ohms maybe
20:22 Electricguy it just sounds geneerally bad with 32Ohm phones... like, no treble and crappy
20:22 Experimentonomen someday i'll build a amp for my 8ohm headphones
20:23 Electricguy huh.. nope.. the headphones out is made for a pair of 8 Ohm phones..
20:23 Electricguy max load is 4 Ohms
20:23 Electricguy http://www.vintage-audio.com.ua/en/cat/79/358.html
20:23 BotSteve Title: Tascam 234 / Cassette Decks - Tascam / Vintage Audio
20:23 Experimentonomen o_O
20:23 Electricguy strange
20:23 mashpriborintorg my gf bought me wireless Sonby headphones... piece of crap, there is audible hum in it
20:23 mashpriborintorg *sony
20:23 Electricguy hum and static noise is SOOO annoying in headphones
20:23 y007-nb ^
20:24 Electricguy i wonder....
20:24 Electricguy i got the amp from a set of computer speakers..
20:24 Electricguy gonna pop the cover on it and see what's inside
20:24 mashpriborintorg and it I unplug the audio input cables, it just acts like a radio interference detector :p
20:25 Experimentonomen Electricguy, i guess a stereo TDA ic
20:25 Electricguy yeah. most likely
20:25 Experimentonomen or equavilent
20:25 mashpriborintorg and dad caps and bad solder joints :p
20:25 Experimentonomen and 10% THD at 1W in 8 ohms
20:26 mashpriborintorg I hate so much those plastic pc speakers
20:26 Electricguy lol yeah
20:26 Experimentonomen mash, some are actually not that bad
20:26 mashpriborintorg yeah, if you put the money
20:26 Electricguy i got a pair of creative inspire T10 speakers..
20:27 mashpriborintorg can't complain about mine, found them for free in the garbade, still packed in retail box
20:27 Experimentonomen the Z5500 would prolly put my current system to shame
20:27 Electricguy i put some furry fluff in them cause they sounded a bit hollow.. now they sound really good to be a pair of plastic speakers :P
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20:28 HighMan Back...
20:28 Electricguy no shit! :P
20:28 mashpriborintorg well, go to sleep, bye
20:28 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: I don't know what to make of that auction
20:28 Experimentonomen nite mashie
20:28 Electricguy night
20:29 tonsofpcs $100 per item....
20:29 mashpriborintorg + $$$$ of shipping
20:29 tonsofpcs Electricguy: why do you need a headphone amp?
20:29 tonsofpcs mashpriborintorg: I wonder if they'd be willing to sell/rent the space containing it
20:29 Electricguy to drive my headphones from a line level output..
20:30 tonsofpcs Electricguy: from...
20:30 Electricguy heh, the amp got 3 TDA2030 ICs inside
20:30 Electricguy tonsofpcs, any line level device..
20:30 Experimentonomen pretty much expected
20:30 Electricguy yes
20:30 HighMan Who uses x-chat here?
20:30 Electricguy i do
20:30 Experimentonomen the tda2030 is pretty much mainstream in pc speakers and cheap audio SHIT
20:30 HighMan I screwed up my font and I want to know what the original font is..
20:31 Electricguy ok, a recompiled half cracked version
20:31 Electricguy but yeh, it's s-chat
20:31 Electricguy x*
20:31 Electricguy ok, hang on then
20:31 HighMan Can you go to the options and then text adn tell me what the font is reguraly?
20:31 HighMan Thanks lol
20:31 tonsofpcs Electricguy: cheap or high quality?  what sort of line level?  Cost restriction?  LM386 an option?
20:31 Electricguy fairly high quality.. and cheap
20:31 Electricguy gonna see what i can dig out at home
20:32 Electricguy HighMan, my font is Fixedsys Excelsior 2.00 11
20:32 Experimentonomen lm386 and headphones ? ROFLMAO
20:32 tonsofpcs Behringer makes a cheap headphone amp that's, well, behringer quality :)
20:32 HighMan kk thanks
20:32 Electricguy LM386 should never have been produced.. worst shit amp ever
20:32 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: hey, it works, I've used it for testing an intercom system design.
20:32 Electricguy it sounds like a choked donkey though
20:33 Experimentonomen yeh but it sounds like ass
20:33 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: right, which is why I asked if it was an option.
20:33 Experimentonomen i get the impression that tonsofpcs doesent care about sound quality at all
20:33 Electricguy oh lol! the TDA2030 got 0.1%THD... at not even half power... yeh right.. NOT using that for a headphone amp!
20:34 Experimentonomen Electricguy, like chipguy said, oscillating piece of shit :P
20:34 Electricguy lol yeah
20:34 Electricguy hrm..
20:34 * Electricguy spots a LM741 op amp in the filter section of the speaker amp...
20:34 * Electricguy puts on the lid again and forgets that he even opened the box..
20:35 Electricguy using a LM741 in audio is like trying to play cod MW3 on a NES...
20:35 Electricguy you just DON'T DO IT!
20:36 tonsofpcs Electricguy: no it isn't.  the latter would be awesome :D
20:36 Electricguy lol
20:36 HighMan Still looks awk... It must hust be me
20:36 HighMan *just
20:37 tonsofpcs 1RU minidisc players make great headphone amps.
20:37 Experimentonomen http://imgur.com/a/fpHSn <-- hmmm might be hummy on a mains based psu though
20:37 BotSteve Title: classabheadphoneamp - Imgur
20:37 tonsofpcs mind you, I have stacks of them all over the office ;)
20:38 Electricguy LM741 amps or NES consoles? :P
20:38 tonsofpcs http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/HA4700.aspx < is decent and each section fails separately so you essentially have four behringer headphone amps, should last at least 6 years ;)
20:38 BotSteve Title: BEHRINGER: HA4700
20:38 tonsofpcs Electricguy: 1RU minidisc players
20:38 tonsofpcs player/recorders, that is
20:38 Electricguy oh, didn't see your earlier post
20:38 Electricguy but oki
20:39 Electricguy hmm.. makes me thing.. i trashed a MD player a while ago.. gonna see if i can find the PCB in the trash
20:39 tonsofpcs our classical 'jocks' have no complaints about that behringer except when it fails.
20:39 Experimentonomen a good amp should not fail during normal use
20:40 tonsofpcs each amp is a SIP.
20:40 Electricguy nah.. didn't find the board.. oh well
20:41 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: they are plugged in and powered and amplifying non-stop, with people plugging/unplugging headphones daily.  I see the first module failing after 4-5 years.
20:41 tonsofpcs (first being most used, that is)
20:41 Electricguy found a pair of TBA820A chips though..
20:41 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: are you not familiar with behringer?
20:41 Electricguy it's cheap junk PA stuff :P
20:42 Electricguy but decent for the very low price
20:42 wannabe1987 https://www.facebook.com/christina.spaulding1/posts/359492700750526  and this is why i love christina
20:42 BotSteve Title: Log In | Facebook
20:42 tonsofpcs Electricguy: it's great stuff until it fails, it just has a low MTTF.
20:42 Experimentonomen i know their line of poweramps
20:42 Electricguy wannabe1987, lulz yeah :P
20:43 Electricguy the TBA820A got 0.4%THD...
20:44 * Electricguy dies a little inside
20:44 angy the huge question is that are you able to spot it in blind?
20:44 Electricguy ?
20:46 lwq1996 oh the interesting convo's i have with ponko
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20:46 Ponko indeed lwq1996
20:49 tonsofpcs Electricguy: can you hear the difference in blind comparisons.
20:49 Electricguy between what and what?
20:49 tonsofpcs 0 and 0.4, I guess... not sure exactly what angy was questioning.
20:50 tonsofpcs (%THD)
20:50 Ponko has anyone heard of C&M Bailing or Linde?
20:50 tonsofpcs sounds like a packaging company
20:50 tonsofpcs (no)
20:50 Electricguy i tried a amp with 0.1% with a pair of headphones once. i heard static noise in the phones.
20:51 Ponko well linde make fork lifts and such from pump trucks to full on massive fork lifts
20:51 Electricguy and from what i have tested the static noise goes up with the THD
20:51 angy THD at 0.1% won't result in static
20:51 tonsofpcs static is poor input design, not anything to do with THD
20:52 Experimentonomen hiss is a result of the amplifiers gain and the noise product of the components
20:52 angy and your headphone is likely to have a THD way higher than your amplifier whatsoever
20:52 Ponko and C&M make stuff like this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baler
20:52 BotSteve Title: Baler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
20:52 Electricguy well.. okey then. but i have found that higher THD amps give more static crap..
20:52 angy did you knew THD before or after testing?
20:53 Experimentonomen higher thd amps prolly use cheaper parts = more noise
20:53 angy tube amps have higher THD than solid state
20:53 angy though you don't hear it
20:53 Experimentonomen angy, wrong
20:53 angy then you don't know what THD is
20:53 Experimentonomen total harmonic distortion
20:53 angy a tube amp is likely to produce ~1% of THD on full spectrum
20:54 tonsofpcs Ponko: rightt, packaging.
20:54 angy and you won't be able to spot it the way that is produce the distortion
20:54 Electricguy it depends on the output trafo
20:54 Experimentonomen tubeamps have a differend thd in form of even and odd harmonics than solid state amps
20:54 Ponko yeah it's the Industrial one though lots of fun to work with :)
20:54 Electricguy tube amps without output trafos can give THD around 0.02 if you got good tubes
20:54 angy you meusure up to which harmonic?
20:55 tonsofpcs measuring what spectrum?
20:55 Ponko http://www.linde-mh.co.uk/en/country_site_uk/home.html tonsofpcs this is Linde the stuff we have at work
20:55 tonsofpcs with what power supply?
20:55 BotSteve Title: Linde Material Handling Forklift - Home
20:55 tonsofpcs Ponko: (1) that's the homepage (2) I want a pallet jack, send one? :)
20:56 Experimentonomen with psu i never go below 10000µF in dc bus capacitance for poweramps for speakers, for headphone amps i'd use regulated power supplies
20:56 Electricguy good lord.. i mailed a dude on a swedish second hand site about an old laptop.. (600MHz 32MD RAM and Win98).. he want 80 bucks for it!! o_O what do he think it is? gold?
20:56 Ponko what a PPT tonsofpcs?
20:57 Ponko or BATs as we for some reason call them
20:57 Electricguy i got 2x 10mF in my gainclone amp
20:57 angy Experimentonomen: you're not likely to get 0.4%THD with any buyable headphone in a room that is not anechoic
20:57 tonsofpcs Ponko: huh?
20:58 Experimentonomen angy, headphones have much higher dynamic range, so u may very well head a THD of 0.1% or less
20:58 Ponko i think that what you mean by pallet truck
20:58 Ponko pic me lol
20:58 angy they have higher dynamic, but produce way more harmonic as per design
20:58 tonsofpcs pallet jack.  google.
20:58 angy you /will/ hear distortion, just not from where you think
20:58 Electricguy yeh.. there is a reason why headphone amps use to have around 0.002%THd..
20:58 Electricguy :)
20:58 Experimentonomen wheres with speakers in a room it may take more gthan 10% before u even notice anything
20:58 tonsofpcs Electricguy: yes, because they measured it differently.
20:58 Ponko oh a pump truck as it's called at work
20:59 Ponko or over i forget
20:59 wannabe1987 Ponko it might be called a pallet truck in the uk
20:59 angy you're likely to notice THD above 1% with anything, headphone or speaker
20:59 angy all depend on what you listen
20:59 Experimentonomen and consaaidering the drivers in headphones and speakers  are high THD, theres a good reason to keep THD down in the amp as it adds up
20:59 Ponko yeah use one of those to lift pallets of wine
20:59 angy below 1% is quite tricky, below 0.5% is a job
21:00 angy but if you're a real audiophile, you know that THD is discarded as something to look since late 50s
21:00 Experimentonomen thats why those high thd chipamps sound so bad, their THD add ujp with the speakers own THD, bringing the total THD up to a autible level
21:01 angy it's a little harder than that, but the idea is here indeed
21:02 Experimentonomen angy, but audiophiles are stupid, they gladly pay big money for audio gear thad to us mortals may sound like total shit due to high THD
21:02 Electricguy good lord.. what have i started.. i jut pointed out that i need a headphone amp! o_O
21:02 angy nope, that is were you're wrong
21:02 angy THD can be absolutely transparent to the signal, even if high
21:02 angy it all depend /which/ harmonic it screws
21:03 angy all harmonics are not the same, some get sound better (if you like that kind of sound)
21:03 angy THD is why you like better a real piano sound than an electric one
21:03 angy (to simplify quite a lot, but the idea is the same)
21:03 Electricguy my gainclone :) http://imgur.com/a/raCu0#0
21:03 BotSteve Title: EG's gainclone Amp - Imgur
21:03 Electricguy <3
21:04 Experimentonomen solid state amps have even numbered harmonics which are generally harch sounding while tubeamps have odd number harmonics which as angy suggests are inaudible or even warm sounding
21:05 Experimentonomen hence why high thd doesent matter for audiophile since they use tubes
21:05 Experimentonomen and why in solid state designs u want lowesrt thd possible
21:05 Electricguy or rodium dipped foreskin coated transistors..
21:05 Experimentonomen O_o
21:05 Electricguy c'mon! it's audiophiles we talk about! :P
21:05 angy Electricguy: just get anything, you're not likely to hear the difference
21:06 angy and if you want a good amp, you will need to pair headphones with amp
21:06 angy and that requires lots of trial and error
21:06 angy all depending on what sound you like
21:06 Electricguy geez...
21:06 Electricguy i want NO static noise and NO hum and lots of grunt.. that's all..
21:07 angy the you need to build an anechoic & faraday chamber
21:07 angy and get any of them, it will sound awful into them
21:07 tonsofpcs and some voltaic piles for power.
21:08 Electricguy sigh... no audiable hum or noise...
21:08 Experimentonomen i should hook up some headphones to my lateral mosfet amp, with speakers its so dead silent that u have to press ur ears against the tweeters to hear the hiss, and hum is nonexistant
21:08 angy I can suggest you great one, but you won't be able to buy them
21:08 Ponko http://www.linde-world.de/mh-products/start.view?dealer=22 tonsofpcs
21:08 tonsofpcs Electricguy: then you just need more background noise :)
21:08 BotSteve Title: Linde Material Handling Products
21:08 Electricguy you guys are impossible. i'll dig out some crap myself..
21:09 angy Electricguy: we don't know you hearing profile
21:09 angy I can have something that don't hum/hiss/whatever for me that is impossible for you
21:09 angy the same the other way around is possible
21:09 tonsofpcs Electricguy: that inductor looks awfully close to those capacitors for an audiophile such as yourself, maybe you should put some lead shielding in there and drill perfect sized holes for your 100% oxygen-free copper :)
21:10 Electricguy oxygen free copper is BS..
21:10 tonsofpcs Ponko: ugh, flash 'website', *closes*
21:10 Ponko eh?
21:10 angy just don't base yourself on THD, it's bullshit to give it even a thought
21:10 Experimentonomen oxygen free copper is a marketing trick
21:10 angy just /try/ want you consider with your headphones you'll use
21:11 Electricguy ok, my arguments about amplifiers end here... cause this isn't leading anywhere.
21:11 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: and how they measure and report THD isn't?
21:12 Experimentonomen tonsofpcs, im not tamking this any further as its leading nowhere
21:13 Electricguy exactly, cause tonsofpcs and angy isn't going to give up.. :P
21:13 Electricguy damn audiophiles! ;)
21:13 tonsofpcs Electricguy: just go buy the behringer headphone amp.  it'll last you fine.  $120 or so street.
21:14 tonsofpcs alternatively, use your cassette recorder as a headphone amp.
21:14 Electricguy that's a lot of money for a poor 19 year old..
21:14 Electricguy again, the headphone outlet on the casette deck sounds like crap..
21:14 tonsofpcs Electricguy: let's take another look at the LM386 then :)
21:14 Electricguy nut, enough of this crap now..
21:14 Electricguy but*
21:16 eg_lappy maybe a pair oon NE5534 OP amps and a pair of push/pull transistor stages would do
21:16 Experimentonomen http://www.tubecad.com/2009/02/09/headphone%20amplifier%20circuit.png
21:17 Experimentonomen i simulated that, the resistror in the output stage was 100 ohms in my sim and thd was like 0.00x % and its easy enuf to build to give it a try
21:17 ElectricguyLab oki
21:18 ElectricguyLab gotta find some PNP transistors
21:18 ElectricguyLab i should have some here somewhere
21:18 Seroster Anyone wanna hear a joke? Ponko?
21:18 Ponko sure
21:18 Seroster An irishman walks out of a bar...
21:19 Ponko oh here we go
21:19 Seroster ... New TAA vid, Ponko =9
21:19 Experimentonomen but make the gain setting resistors to 1k ands 30k for less noise
21:19 Ponko link
21:19 tonsofpcs Seroster: lol
21:19 Seroster Btw, Ponko, did you get the joke?
21:20 Ponko yeah i first thought you said into
21:20 Seroster lol
21:20 Seroster Get int he fuckin nsfw room
21:20 Experimentonomen maybe i should actually try that circuit myself
21:21 ElectricguyLab BD140 and 139 should do as output stage
21:21 Experimentonomen yup
21:21 Experimentonomen u can get up to 8 watts in 8 ohms with those
21:22 ElectricguyLab nice
21:23 Experimentonomen however since tghat circuit relies on that 47-100 ohm resistor to reduce crossover distortion, its not really suitable for headphone impedance below 32 ohms
21:24 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: add a 30R?
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21:24 tonsofpcs (or two, I guess)
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21:25 Hydroelectric Morning all.
21:25 tonsofpcs hi hy ty
21:26 Experimentonomen the thing is at lower impedance it takes more current from the opamp = thd shoots up quickly as the opamp itself cannot drive loads below 600 ohms on its own
21:26 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: right... can't you simply add a series resistance to take care of that?
21:27 Experimentonomen no
21:27 Experimentonomen using a resisotr to increase load impedance also take away from sound quality as ur wasting away part of the signal in a resistor
21:28 Experimentonomen however most headphones dont go beloe 32 ohms so its not a prollem
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21:30 Serostern crud
21:37 tonsofpcs Experimentonomen: take away from quality?  Wouldn't it just act as a divider and affect the level since it is a purely resistive load?
21:37 Experimentonomen its known as bad practice in audio
21:38 Experimentonomen its like fixing a frat tire with a piece of tape rather than doing it properly
21:39 Experimentonomen and with that im not taking this any further
21:40 tonsofpcs welll, sure, the proper solution is to design the amp for the load expected to be presented.
21:40 wannabe1987 http://static.thepioneerwoman.com/files/2012/02/bacontable.jpg
21:41 Experimentonomen wannabe1987, bacon stool ?
21:41 tonsofpcs thanks wannabe1987, shared with bacon lover :)
21:41 wannabe1987 i dunno.  one ofmy fav bloggers posted the photo
21:41 wannabe1987 :)  yw
21:41 wannabe1987 she's a cook
21:41 Experimentonomen .cookie wannabe1987
21:41 BotSteve Here you go, wannabe1987, I baked you a butter pecan cookie!
21:42 wannabe1987 :)
21:43 tonsofpcs note: just got a random facebook ad:  http://www.moleskineus.com/moleskine-lego-limited-edition.html
21:43 BotSteve Title: LEGO Limited Edition, MoleskineUS
21:49 Hydroelectric Sigh, time for school. Bye all.
21:50 tonsofpcs cya
21:50 wannabe1987 almost time for me to go to work "/
21:51 ElectricguyLab this OP amp transistor hybrid dists for nothing
21:51 ElectricguyLab maybe a NE5534 isn't very suitable for this thing
21:53 Experimentonomen well my sim was based off of a LT1115 or something ultra low noise ultralow distortion opamp and pefect dc power supplie
21:53 Experimentonomen i never testewd it irl but im not all that suprised if it sounds like shit, it is a class b outoput stage after all
21:54 Experimentonomen i'll get my breadboard out and try it tomorrow for myself
21:55 ElectricguyLab ehrm.. the NE5534 can drive the headphones so hard that they vibrate pretty good.. o_O
21:55 BatSteve tonsofpcs: gonna buy one?
21:55 ElectricguyLab and it doesn't sound bad
21:56 Experimentonomen ElectricguyLab, maybe just a few ne5534 in parallel will do the job just fine
21:57 ElectricguyLab one will do fine. my headphones are not that heavy to drive
21:58 ElectricguyLab gonna start with one and see
21:58 Experimentonomen oki
22:01 wannabe1987 be back after 10, back at my place....work at 6...gotta go get ready
22:01 wannabe1987 bye!
22:06 tonsofpcs BatSteve: nah.  I don't have anything to build on it :)
22:06 BatSteve fair enough
22:07 ElectricguyLab yeah this OP amp headphone amp sounds pretty good
22:07 ElectricguyLab got LOTS of gain atm though
22:07 tonsofpcs what op amp?
22:07 ElectricguyLab NE5534
22:07 ElectricguyLab it got fairly low output impedance
22:08 tonsofpcs *grabs datasheet*
22:08 HighMan Hey tonsofpcs BatSteve
22:08 tonsofpcs yay, curves!  (is it weird that I like studying the curves in the back of TI and National data sheets?)
22:08 ElectricguyLab yes
22:08 HighMan If you ever run out of bread boards, get some nails and a wooden board and wire.
22:09 ElectricguyLab holy balls these op amps can play loud!
22:10 tonsofpcs it's noise and THD frequency responses mirror each other...
22:11 tonsofpcs looks pretty clean to 40k
22:14 * tonsofpcs needs some of thosr
22:15 ElectricguyLab they are nice
22:15 tonsofpcs [1;2C
22:17 tonsofpcs correction, I need SA5534s.
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22:18 tonsofpcs hmm, what's the A suffix mean...
22:19 tonsofpcs ah, max noise voltage limit
22:23 Electricguy ok, a NE5534 based headphone amp it is
22:23 Electricguy it's amazing how well they can drive a pair of headphones
22:32 KB3NZQ ping
22:33 HighMan pong?
22:33 * lwq1996 pings KB3NZQ
22:36 Electricguy hmmm, i got something called instant viewer that pops up when i hit the scroll click
22:36 Electricguy might been installed with my mouse
22:39 Electricguy looks like this http://i.imgur.com/S2RnF.jpg
22:42 tonsofpcs looks like some sort of window switchy thing
22:42 HighMan joined #thegeekgroup
22:42 HighMan Hi
22:42 Electricguy it is
22:42 Electricguy hi highman
22:42 HighMan xD
22:42 HighMan X-Chat is being a bitch.
22:42 tonsofpcs you think your mouse installed linux software?
22:42 Electricguy hell no
22:43 Electricguy not in windows!
22:43 tonsofpcs huh?
22:43 Electricguy a microsoft mouse with extra toys souldn't work very well in linsux i suppose
22:43 tonsofpcs windowblinds?
22:44 * tonsofpcs sees now
22:44 Electricguy for the confused guys: My OS is Win XP pro with custom everything
22:44 tonsofpcs you need to choose an os :-p
22:44 Electricguy i like the look of ubuntu.. but not the OS.. XD
22:47 JA12 that's not even close what ubuntu looks like though
22:48 Electricguy it was, a while ago
22:49 JA12 nope
22:49 Electricguy close enough..
22:49 Electricguy i know it's not 100%
22:50 JA12 now it has that unity crap. before that, gnome 2 with categorized menus (3 of them) and integrated social networking stuff
22:52 Electricguy found a new theme i'm gonna try.. http://www.freddi67.deviantart.com/#/d2xoqxh
22:52 BotSteve Title: Freddi67 on deviantART
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22:59 Electricguy hmmm nah.. not my personal fav skin.. http://i.imgur.com/kVcDv.jpg
23:01 astro73|alice what ever happened to GH5?
23:04 BitViper|Bed astro73 : still a work in progress
23:04 BitViper|Bed stripping to begin in the next week or so weather permitting
23:05 astro73|alice ...
23:05 Experimentonomen i built a mono headphjone amp now blasting a peak of 7 volts into 4 ohms
23:06 astro73|alice they've already bought GH6 and 7, but haven't really started on GH5
23:06 astro73|alice wow
23:06 Experimentonomen used a LF356, a MJE340, a MJE350, two 1N4148 and two 2.2k resistors
23:06 BitViper|Bed each of the 3 is for different purpose
23:07 astro73|alice well, yes
23:07 astro73|alice but it's still a lot of work
23:07 Experimentonomen http://www.diyhifi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2085 <-- that basic cir
23:07 BotSteve Title: DIYHiFi.org • View topic - crappy opamp circuit debugging.
23:08 Experimentonomen these old headphones need around 6 watts of power per ear before their getting unbearably loud
23:13 Electricguy ok.. bedtime! night all :)
23:13 Experimentonomen nite
23:14 Guardianzozo later
23:15 HighMan Night Experimentonomen
23:15 HighMan * electricguy
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23:21 HighMan Hi Druidic_Rifleman
23:22 Guardianzozo hey druid
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23:31 * BitViper|Bed grabs the back of Guardianzozo's undies and pulls them over Guardianzozo's head!
23:32 Guardianzozo ....
23:33 * BitViper|Bed hands Guardianzozo a pry bar
23:34 Guardianzozo and a hasmat shower
23:34 BitViper|Bed hahaha
23:34 BitViper|Bed O_o
23:34 Experimentonomen BitViper|Bed, thats not funny
23:35 Guardianzozo i laughed
23:36 BitViper|Bed before or after disentanglement ?
23:40 * Cprossu has a gigantic headache
23:40 Cprossu what's up all?
23:41 Cprossu yay I caused seroster to have an internet hemmerage!
23:41 Guardianzozo yay!
23:41 Experimentonomen i built a mono amp that pretty much blasted my eardrums out, 12 watts into 8 ohm headphones with both ears in parallel
23:41 Cprossu how goes life at the lab zozo?
23:41 Cprossu Experimentonomen: for headphones?
23:42 Guardianzozo no lab today, its closed so im bored as hell
23:42 Cprossu (curious how you blew out your eardrums)
23:42 Cprossu zozo I just wrote a very very lengthy tutorial lol
23:42 Cprossu I don't think I'll be doing that again anytime soon
23:42 * BitViper|Bed looks at Guardianzozo and soooo wants to comment, but may not survive it
23:42 Experimentonomen http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/A_30588/article.html <-- that cir but with MJE340/350 as outputs
23:42 BotSteve Title: Silicon Chip Online - Build A Stereo Headphone Amplifier
23:42 Guardianzozo on making a gmod beta server?
23:43 Cprossu yep
23:43 Guardianzozo nice
23:43 Cprossu http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1167741 last post
23:43 BotSteve Title: HOWTO: Make a semi-working windows dedicated gmod beta server (Works on update 13)
23:43 Cprossu from fucking scratch.
23:43 Guardianzozo now you need to make one on how to get a beta key lol
23:43 Experimentonomen now i just need to m ake a stereo version and get a 24V battery pack and i can use my old 8 ohm cans whereever i go
23:44 Cprossu Guardianzozo: Step 001: Disable steamguard
23:44 Guardianzozo LOL
23:44 Cprossu (lol)
23:46 injektion <3 steamguard
23:46 HighMan Hi cprossu, Hope you get better
23:46 Cprossu eh HighMan?
23:46 Cprossu was I sick?
23:46 HighMan "* Cprossu has a gigantic headache"
23:46 Cprossu oooh yeah
23:46 Cprossu nothing can help me on that
23:47 HighMan Some Excedrin or heroin?
23:47 Ponko cya peeps
23:47 Cprossu Excedrin migraine for the win
23:47 Cprossu but I am out of it
23:47 Ponko work tomoz at 8am
23:47 Ponko with Vocollect
23:47 Ponko left #thegeekgroup
23:47 HighMan night Ponko
23:47 HighMan Well get some!
23:47 tonsofpcs egrsteve: http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONY-AWS-G500-3-ANYCAST-NEW-OPEN-BOX-/230755203403?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item35ba14f94b
23:47 Cprossu perhaps I'll take a extra strength tylinol, an asprin, and a mountain dew
23:47 BotSteve Title: SONY AWS-G500/3 ANYCAST - NEW, OPEN BOX | eBay
23:47 tonsofpcs Cprossu: do you have an account yet?
23:48 HighMan Isn't Tylenol and Asprin the same?
23:48 Cprossu let me check tonsofpcs
23:48 Cprossu HighMan no
23:48 HighMan Oh... Well don't overdose..
23:48 Cprossu acetominophen vs acetic...whatever.salic acid
23:48 tonsofpcs aacetylsalicylic acid?
23:48 HighMan Vinegar lol
23:48 tonsofpcs one aa
23:48 tonsofpcs daamn keyboard
23:48 HighMan lol
23:48 Cprossu a seat a sil o sal ic acid =P
23:48 tonsofpcs ah, better :)
23:49 Cprossu (whatever
23:49 tonsofpcs switch the sil and sal.
23:49 HighMan Yep lol
23:49 Cprossu yep
23:49 Cprossu ok logging into email
23:49 JA12 3kg aspirin as a suppository. no headache
23:49 Cprossu checking junk
23:49 HighMan JA12, XD
23:49 Cprossu tonsofpcs: nope
23:50 Cprossu let me try logging in anyway
23:50 tonsofpcs Cprossu: try logging  in?
23:50 HighMan Or a 1mg or 1g dose of heroin?
23:50 Cprossu The specified username is currently inactive. If you have problems activating your account, please contact a board administrator.
23:50 HighMan "A"?
23:50 tonsofpcs Cprossu: "cprossu" ?
23:50 HighMan That would mean any board administrator..
23:51 Cprossu kinda hard to contact anyone when the system they want you to contact them with you're locked out of HighMan
23:51 tonsofpcs Cprossu: account name?
23:52 Cprossu Cprossu
23:52 Cprossu lol
23:52 HighMan Just go to some random board administrator from another fourm... I mean "a" is a very generic term...
23:52 Cprossu the list of admins
23:52 Cprossu is priveleged
23:52 Cprossu you can't see it
23:53 Cprossu without logging in
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23:53 Cprossu I tried that
23:53 Cprossu and didn't feel like using google phu to extract the info the hard way
23:53 Cprossu I mean I made up a post, a rather decent one, to help a member, and they are making it difficult!
23:58 tonsofpcs Cprossu: got AIM?
23:59 HighMan Back

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